The WAN Show - Valve Did the IMPOSSIBLE... Anti-Cheat on Linux - WAN Show September 24, 2021

Episode Date: September 27, 2021

Checkout TEAMGROUP's Team Event and enter to win awesome prizes at: https://lmg.gg/Teamevent Timestamps (courtesy of NoKi1119 - NOTE: Timestamps will be off by a couple of minutes due to change in sponsors) [0:00] Chapters [0:57] Intro [1:32] Topic #1: Valve's anti-cheat on Linux.     2:30 Supported games.     4:57 Steam Deck's effect on the market.     11:22 Discussing true identification.     15:12 Issues with the validation.     20:41 Supported AC does not guarantee games working.     21:17 Linux installation competition video idea. [24:32] Sponsors. [26:50] Topic #2: EU enforcing USB-C on devices.     28:51 Apple Watch 7 has 60.5 GHz wireless transfer.     32:01 Is wireless charging the end of cables? [35:41] Topic #3: Microsoft's Surface laptop Studio.     37:32 Specifications.     38:58 New Surface Duo 2. [40:45] Topic #4: Super Mario Brothers movie & voice-over cast. [42:58] Topic #5: China bans cryptocurrencies, BTC value drops. [46:00] Superchats. [48:05] Wrapping up. [48:10] Outro. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With Uber Reserve, you can book your Uber ride in advance. 90 days in advance. Perfect for all you forward thinkers and planning gurus. Reserve your Uber ride up to 90 days in advance. Uber Reserve. See Uber app for details. We are live. Welcome to the WAN Show, ladies and gentlemen. We have a fantastic show lined up for you this week. And the biggest news of the week, in our humble opinion, Valve actually freaking did it, going one step, getting one step closer

to working anti-cheat on Linux in advance of the launch of the upcoming Steam Deck. In other news, the EU proposes to force USB-C charging on all devices. Yes, that includes you, Apple. What else we got? I took all the good stuff. I know I did. did you did but there's still some other interesting things there's a new super mario bros movie coming and uh some people are questioning the cast a little bit also within

that same topic there's more uh n64 and sega games coming to the switch and some of them are actually pretty good looking titles also microsoft announces a new surface well multiple new surface devices and they look kind of interesting surf i sir oh rolling the intro rolling the intro hey look at that ed made us a new intro dead luke is dead i die every time it's great i love the intros dude yeah every once in a while that actually makes us new ones all right why don't we jump right into our first topic of the day valve freaking did it well no we should give the background for this because what is the

deal why doesn't anti-cheat work on linux tell me luke you're the technical one right i mean it just hasn't been any support for it i'm just a pretty face people could have made it um they just didn't up until now the user base is really small and it just never happened uh and and a lot of people were concerned about this because valve made the claim of the 100% Steam library, library, 100% Steam library compatibility thing. People like me kind of assumed, oh, they probably just mean performance-wise it could run it, but like, you know,

maybe there's going to be some other problems. But no, they seem to be trying to go after that goal. Multiple different anti-cheats are going to be compatible now. Apparently, Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney announced that Easy Anti-Cheat will support Proton, which is Valve's whole kind of thingamajig. So that includes Fall Guys, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Halo, the Master Chief Collection, Black Desert, and I believe much, much more. Battle.i is also added support so that is day

z insurgency pub g um pub g battlegrounds what it's just pub g battlegrounds is bg i know i think it's pub g battlegrounds now just to for recognizability something that's stupid anyways also destiny 2 no one's asking you to go to the atm machine and take out money to pay for it okay it's a joke it's a joke because the m and atm is for machine oh good call, whoosh. That whooshed me very hard because I thought you were genuinely talking about, like, buying PUBG, and I was like, I'm confused. I already own PUBG. Rainbow Six Siege, Arma, and more stuff as well.

Support for just those two anti-cheat solutions alone will bring the number of games that would not be able to have ran before. I like Anthony's word better. He has borked on the doc. I mean, the number of borked titles on Proton Database is the top 100, from

12 heavy hitters down to a single game. That's freaking awesome. Pretty huge. I guess the question is, what is it about Linux users that made game developers hate them so much and not care about bringing their anti-cheat to Linux? Or is it just apathy?

I mean, a lot of people already don't make Linux-compatible versions of their games at all. So if you're not doing that, why bother make the anti-cheat work? I guess that's it. It could also be a chicken and egg issue if you decide that you're going to use a certain anti-cheat for your game and it doesn't work on that operating system yeah that might limit you from developing the game for the operating system yeah i don't know i think the the user base of of gamers on linux comparatively has been smaller um so it's you have to see the development cost

of making it for those people um and apply that over and that's sometimes a difficult equation to make especially when you don't know how much money you're going to make on the game at all um this is why i'm already on the record saying that the that the steam deck is so important because linux is going to go from having an install base of literally dozens of us for gamers to having an install base of millions overnight. And all of a sudden, developers are going to want a piece of that pie

because, you know... And millions of people that are buying in specifically into that ecosystem and are buying a device that's... As much as it isn't it is also definitely built around a store which means selling things absolutely i think a lot of the id of of or the demographic of linux users has in some cases you have like really intense enthusiasts and in a lot of other cases you have people that are trying to get a really good bang for their

butt computer that is trying to spend as little as they can. Literally a public library. Trying to reuse ancient machines and still get a usable experience out of them. So they're probably not going to spend a bunch of money on this bleeding edge new game.

So I think you have to use this like... Exactly. They're going to spend some money on that new game. If I'm a Steam Deck user, man, I'm looking for something to play on it. Absolutely. And if I'm a game developer, I am going to be all over

making sure that my game is great on Steam Deck because you know that Valve is going to be looking for reasons for people to buy Steam Deck. There's definitely going to be a section in the store for Steam Deck. Oh, 100%. 100%. This is highly rated for how well it's adapted to Steam Deck. That's something I would want to be able to search by in the store. So I'm certain it will be a thing.

Whether it's a user tag or whether valve just builds it in it'll definitely be there it'll definitely be possible so yeah that's actually really exciting that's very very cool generic plant left a super chat that said anti-cheat at least some of it does work under linux the issue is that when you're gaming on linux a lot of the time you're using proton or wine which breaks the anti-cheat because you are trying to run the Windows version of the anti-cheat on Linux. So what's actually happening here, that's a really great super chat. Thanks, Generic Plant. What's really happening here is they're finding a way to adapt it so that their anti-cheat isn't flagging running within Proton as some kind of circumvention, right?

Because, I mean, anti-cheat software by its very nature has to look for anything unusual and go, no, no, do not like this. I mean, we've talked about anti-cheat on the WAN show a fair bit in the past. And a lot of the time, it's a more uh insidious than it used to be like it i remember i remember uh luke and i have been playing diablo and uh actually mostly diablo in after party streams over the last couple of weeks and we've been cheating right uh we've been duping gold because ain't nobody got time but look it's been fun it's it's a whole little mini game yeah yeah just like people and people are watching us on twitch and we're like just duping gold

like wow there's like there's like 2 000 people watching us do go anyway the point is back in the day the way that you cheated at a game like diablo was you would download a trainer is what it's called i don't know what they call it anymore but or like and i think they would include a character editor and so you could just go and you could edit your character um and it was software that had to run on the computer at the same time so obviously one of the things that anti-cheat looks for is any software any processes that are running that could be injecting or sniffing any part of the the uh the game's data um but it can be a lot like crazier than that like uh some anti-cheat will actually flag you for gaming within a virtual machine for example and the reason for that is that in a vm without actually having a process running on the VM,

you could have a separate VM or more likely the hypervisor watching all the network activity and monitoring it that way so that the anti-cheat can't find this process that's running on the same machine. Then, you know, next level, you've got anti-cheat that'll run as a pass-through, a completely separate machine where that separate machine will actually control the user inputs. And obviously, there's nothing about that that I think would break Proton compatibility. The point is just that game developers are looking for any

weird way that the game could be running or any weird thing that's running alongside it. And they're blocking that immediately as soon as they can. So it's no surprise that it didn't work. And I get it. Cheating is a huge problem in online games. And honestly, I mean, man, Luke, what would you give up in order to have no cheating in online games? You're muted. I don't quite a bit like would you be would you be willing okay oh wow we are getting into because because to know to know for sure that no one because that's that's the big problem right is the second there's reasonable doubt

it like corrupts the entire experience sucks the joy out of it it's not fun anymore if someone even might be cheating because i don't mind i would much rather i think i've told you this before 10 times out of 10 i would rather lose a close fight or a fair fight than win an uneven one that's not fun there's no there's no glory in in winning a one-sided and it's not fun losing a one-sided battle either but i you know you always want matchmaking right like better matchmaking is better for everyone and cheating destroys the matchmaking process so i've got a question for you and i'm sure our viewers are going to, whether I ask them or not, they're going to unsolicitedly weigh in on this one. Luke, would you play a game that literally required you to submit photo ID every time you signed in? They would validate your government issued ID.

You would have kind of like what Facebook tried to do or what Google Plus tried to do back in the day with this true identification system. If you knew that as soon as someone got caught for cheating, not just an account ban, but they personally would be banned from the game. Now, obviously, people would try to find friends or family or relatives or whatever else, and they would try to create additional accounts in this manner. But would you submit your user information and would you play that game? My stuff is already aggressively compromised as such as yours. But I wouldn't just because I couldn't bring myself

to support that system because of people whose information is not aggressively compromised. That makes sense. So it's out of, it's out of a concern for the people who might not be considering how much they're giving up. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. That's fair enough. That's fair enough. I'd like want to though because none of my stuff matters anymore right like it's just whatever i'm everywhere so who cares i i gave up on this whole thing a long time ago i used to care so much about privacy and stuff and i was just like whatever dude you can google like any of my things so who cares um but i wouldn't want to support that system so yeah i wouldn't do it okay that's fair enough you know what i uh man i'd be i'd be real tempted i am tempted you know like i'm not saying

that but it's no secret that when you play with a controlled group of people who all are accountable to each other in the real world, you know, in real terms. And I'm basically describing like China's social credit system at this point. But it's no secret that when you game with people who actually, you know, care about what you think of them in the real world and the consequences of how they behave, it's a way better experience. It's why LAN parties are so much fun. And gaming with randoms on the internet is so freaking toxic like it's why having a clan has been a thing for as long as online gaming has basically been a thing because it's it's a curated gaming experience you you know that you're among friends who are going to engage in civil discourse or maybe they won't maybe that's your clan's thing is you all you all talk to each other but like that's fine too as long

as it's among friends right and i man i'd be oh i'd be tempted i'd be tempted and a big part of it too would be just what if what if okay hit me hit me okay so valve had this thing with counter-strike that i actually was pretty down with where you i think you had to sync a phone num um and it would it would you you would only match make against other people that had that level of authentication so if that like account got banned and it had that phone number attached to it that phone number was burned i think that's how that worked and there's some wacky stuff there because sorry what did they do away with that i don't know that might still be a thing prime matchmaking people are calling it prime matchmaking let me see if it's

it's been a while since i've like seriously played camera strike um prime matchmaking and yeah so the cool thing was you could play the game either way but you could also decide to only match up with other people that are doing prime matchmaking um and cheating it felt better i don't know if it felt better because there was genuinely less people cheating or if it felt better because my brain thought there was less people cheating. But either way, it felt better. I can see that. Laddie has a really good point here. Now, and it's really funny because, oh man, it's amazing the kinds of gymnastics your brain will do when you just don't want to, you know, like I would I would I would look at, you know, oh, I have to submit my ID and like, you know, like what you have to do

with a vaccine passport where you have to send a video of yourself along with the photo ID for validation. Yeah, this is like super definitely me. Like I would be more tempted to submit to that than Laddie here says, well, you could achieve this much less invasively. A Stadia only or whatever service, GeForce Now or whatever game that you can only stream is functionally uncheatable. That's probably not quite true i've seen some really sophisticated cheats that will actually do frame analysis for you and then input using mouse and keyboard inputs not even that's not even sophisticated and i mean it's more sophisticated than my diablo trainer luke

come on okay come on help me out okay okay to me a cheat is like a hex editor or you like you type you you type into you type into the the chat you know uh it is a good day to die okay luke it's a warcraft cheat invulnerability yeah yeah you can just send you can send your peon in and be like you just hack up all the paladins, all right? Anyway, the point is, there are cheats. Reed is good, man. There are cheats that could work in a system like that through either a combination of just programming for a particular game or even through AI,

just identifying player models and then immediately tracking the crosshair to their head or whatever the case may be. But you're right that it would be more difficult and maybe easier to not probably about the same difficulty to catch that person what do you think so screens screen scanners can be run on on local or external computers. And it doesn't matter if the game's being streamed to have a screen scanner do that. And screen scanners can do tons of stuff.

They can, they can look for models of heads. It was very simple back in the day with counter-strike because there was very few of them. And these days, to be completely honest, it's not exactly harder. There's a lot more different models

of heads but the the tech on the cheating side has also advanced so that's not really a big deal you can also look for things that that that state change so like I'm just thinking Diablo right now you could Diablo 1 you could have it look at your health bubble you know you have your health in your mana bubble i don't know where the wan can see my stuff but you could have it watch that and see for how much the red fills and if it gets low enough could automatically use a potion um like you you can do all that kind of stuff it doesn't matter if the game is streamed to you or not. Those are just inputs based on things that are happening on the screen, right?

So, yeah. I'm sure it would help with some things, but like whether the game is streamed to you or not, it's going to be able to click on ahead if it wants. It's going to be able to do tons of other stuff if it wants. So, Penagwin says, I know of services that allow you to get a non-voIP number for verification for pennies a number.

So it's not a perfect solution in CS. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. I mean, if there's one thing that we can all agree on, I think it's that game cheaters really, really suck. Online game cheaters are kind of the worst. Now tell me something, Luke. Linus Media Group has failed. Floatplane can't make money.

The business is going down. You've reached a point of desperation. You have two paths. I'm a Fortnite streamer. That's not a path. Come on, that's even worse. You have two paths. You're a coding prodigy

and you've come up with simultaneously you've come up with an idea for like the next big pornography website or an epic cheating client, like cheating software.

Option one. You'll make the same. Oh, okay. Well, I was expecting this to be like you know that you know that like working in that's not even controversial in 2021 dude i don't think so anymore you don't think so i don't think it stigmatizes much anymore i remember talking i remember talking to brandon about this way back yeah because because camera people wouldn't want to put on the resumes that they had done it in the. I don't think that's as much of a thing anymore. There's been so much movement de-stigmatizing that.

Like, whatever. I don't know. Okay, then. Well, I really did expect that to be a longer conversation. Moving on. We had talked about in the past about how we could potentially spin up like a another site that did video yeah we've talked about that yep yeah so i was already down with that i wasn't already down with making cheats for video games yeah that's fair that's fair

now just to be clear just because the anti-cheat software does support these games doesn't or just because the anti-cheat software can be supported uh through proton doesn't mean that these games will immediately work it is up to the developer to patch them to make them playable if i understand it correctly with that said um so riot's vanguard anti-cheat which is used by valorant may never be supported that's the one holdout that may just not be possible to play on a steam deck or on linux but quite frankly i think i could live without valorant also not in the steam library luke do you want to do a challenge with me oh okay yes we each borrow an ssd from the office And we both Try to install Linux

On our daily driver gaming PCs At the same time We see who lasts longer Okay Winner gets I don't know I'll come up with something really cool Winner gets something really cool

That we'll come up with and we'll agree on Maybe the chat's going to have some suggestions And And that's it We try to make the switch Yeah, okay I've done this more recently I know

I've never tried to do it I've never tried to daily drive Linux Quite a while So what's the end date on this? There's no end date. There's no end date. It's indefinite. Wow.

Wow. Or you know what? No. It's not a reward. It's a punishment for whoever gives up first. If one of us doesn't make it. Yeah. Wow.

Because I was trying to think of something. I was going to be like, oh, we get a GPU upgrade Or we get this, or we get that But realistically, I think you know that I could just take something from the office if I felt like it And if you told me with a really sad voice And puppy dog eyes I mean, realistically, I'm going to be like,

why are you even telling me this? Just work it out with logistics. So there's nothing really, both you and I, there's no reward I could offer either of us that isn't technology that we would conceivably care about. And there's nothing that I can offer either of us

that is technology that we could care about. So it has to be something terrible i think i think we tap ethan from channel super fun oh my to come up with something that the loser has to do and that's it i'm i'm very i want to hear what the thing is that the loser has to do first. But I'm very interested. Okay. We could also, this might be softer. And because it's softer, I suspect you're not going to go for it.

But we could set like a pretty far date. And if we both make it, we just both get whatever the good thing is. Okay. All right. But I think if it's that one where like there's a potential for a double win, I think the date probably has to be pretty far there's some good stuff in chat charles in youtube chat says loser has to use windows 8 for a month that oh at not even 0.1 oh god yeah windows 8 dad

john wick loser has to shave. We can make it a Movember thing. I'm not going to lose. It's not going to happen. What? You don't want baby face Luke again? Do you remember the last time? What's wrong with baby face Luke? That was when we did the Top Gun shoot.

I think I shaved for that, didn't I? I think you shaved your whole self for that. Never mind your face. Yeah, that was good. That was great. Yeah. Oh, I love it. All right.

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who sell smartphones, tablets, cameras, headphones, etc. to feature a common port, USB-C, in two years. This would effectively mean that Apple would be prohibited from putting a lightning port in future iPhones if they wanted to sell them in the EU. from putting a lightning port in future iPhones if they wanted to sell them in the EU. Apple, in a statement, said, We remain concerned that strict regulation mandating just one type of connector stifles innovation rather than encouraging it, which in turn will harm consumers in Europe and around the world. In the past, they've argued that this switch would be worse for the environment because it renders hundreds of millions of lightning accessories obsolete,

which is not a terrible point but also we could just every every connector and every cable will eventually be obsolete we could just stop making lightning ones and that would be good yeah it doesn't it doesn't make them obsolete right away it's not like everyone's current lightning devices just vanish in thin air i my biggest problem with this, and there's probably something put aside for this. I just haven't seen anything about it. So I'm going to bring it up anyways. Is when does this stop? When does it stop?

Yeah. Are we stuck with USB-C forever? It's in the future. It's now 2069. There's tons of memes about the year. It's forever? It's in the future. It's now 2069. There's tons of memes about the year. It's great. It's a wonderful year. No one remembers the pandemic.

We've moved on. And every single device in the EU still has USB-C. Like, when does it stop? And does the next version have to be like a USB platform connector? Like, I don't know i mean the more likely move for apple because they've been moving this direction for just no very long time yeah just move away from ports i mean um this is really interesting in an fcc filing that was viewed by mac rumors apple added a module to the Watch Series 7 that enables 60.5 gigahertz wireless data transfer. Now on a watch, there's no real reason that you would have to have such

fast data transfer unless the intention was that that's all you got. Because the only time you would ever really use that is during setup and synchronization. Or that's the only time you would ever really use that is during setup and synchronization. Or that's the only time that I would think of that it would really matter. I don't think they intend to use something like that just for Wi-Fi around your house because 60 gigahertz Wi-Fi is not really useful for moving around and a watch is, by its very nature, constantly moving around and a watch is like by by its very nature constantly moving around so this would be the kind of thing where you would put your watch next to your phone so they have line of sight and they would sync and that would be that um you kind of wouldn't touch it again so

one thing that looks like a bit of an obstacle to this is that the lightning connector is still the fastest way to charge an iPhone. Even with the launch of the new iPhone 13 and 13 Pro, which just happened last week. I actually shot my short circuit. I was hands-on with them today. Pretty sweet. Even with the launch of those, the lightning connector is still the fastest way to charge an iPhone. Nectar is still the fastest way to charge an iPhone. You get seven and a half watts via Qi charging, 15 watts via MagSafe charging, and 20 watts over the lightning port. So Apple would either have to get more aggressive about their charging, and actually I support their position, keeping their wireless charging speeds very conservative. I think it's the right thing to do for consumers to protect them from

their own bad habits by forcing them to charge their devices in a way that is healthier for the battery. And you can argue with me all day. I don't care. The bottom line is that even if it's only a 2% difference a year or a 1% difference a year, That's cumulative. And these are devices that people, especially in the case of iPhones, might use for five or six years. If you could have, you know, 6% better battery life after, by the end of using your device, would you want that? Would you press that button? I'd say most people would.

Why not? Who doesn't want to have extra battery life right so i i support apple maintaining their slow wireless charging speeds um and i'll be interested to see if they have to juice them up in order to make this switch i mean what they could do is they could just not be stubborn and they could put a usbc connector on the iphone just like they already did on the macbook and already did on the ipad on the ipad so you know that that's an alternative but apple is can be very rigid sometimes like on the one hand they can be very pragmatic and and business oriented but on the other hand they can

be very uh they can be very emotional it seems resistant. Resistant to change, yeah. And we've been talking about this coming in, I feel like, for literally years. Yes. And it's finally here. It took this long to get here. So you think this could essentially be the end of cables? Yeah, yeah. I think that could be it. Zorg666 said, don't forget about

the huge environmental impact because wireless charging is much less efficient. That is a fair point. I mean, I would be really interested to see what the actual, you know, grid draw numbers are of people charging their phones. I suspect it's not that big compared to running lights and drying clothes and cooking and all those other extremely high draw activities. But I mean, waste is never better. Never good. It does concern me to see things like

wireless charging pads for cars that are boasting. Oh man, which one? I think it was like 80 efficiency charger that's some next level laziness whoa well i mean do you deny that it would be pretty cool to just roll into your garage and never literally never think about charging your car. If you could never think about charging your phone, if just like as you, as you wandered around your house, you had wireless charging, you know, beam transmitters and they could just charge your phone.

You just never thought about it. Yeah, that'd be, that'd be sweet. That'd be sweet. And the car thing would be sweet as well. But like, yeah, that's a lot of, that's a pretty gratuitous amount of waste i feel yeah i don't even know the percentage yet and i'm like i'm pretty sure it's gonna be a pretty gratuitous amount of waste like sheesh apparently this is as high as 92 plus or minus

two percent you could handle with wireless charging even let's say the so the best case 96 plus or minus two for wired so this is a four percent difference but on something like a car four percent on a car is a lot that's a lot yeah that is definitely a larger concern for me than phones but if you if you claim to be if you claim to be a steward of the planet, cutting out inefficiencies anywhere is a good... It's difficult to argue with, I guess is how I would put it. Getting an electric car because you want to be kind to the environment and then getting a wireless charging pad would be a hilarious combo

I kind of want to catch someone doing that but yeah I don't know, that's it Alright, Microsoft announced some new services Someone in Flowplane chat said don't care, get solar I mean, that's fair

Producing solar panels is not uh but if you have them anyways yeah yeah that's a lot of the times you're going to charge your car overnight when your usage of your power is lower i guess and the sun is not shining the sun is also not out unless you had like unless i mean tesla has that cool thing where you can use your Tesla as a battery for their solar solution or whatever. Like that's super cool. I could see something. I also think you're not I suspect you're not going to have to install an additional solar panel or an additional battery because of the 4% loss from wireless charging. So I think it's going to make essentially no difference

in your actual setup. That's fair. That's fair. Let's talk about some Surface devices. The Surface Book is gone, replaced by the Surface Laptop Studio. Could Microsoft make their naming scheme more confusing? Gosh darn it, they're sure going to try. The article here is from the verge and this is

what it looks like it's basically a surface pro with the kickstand permanently attached to the keyboard you know what it's kind of cool it's b it's it's like the it's the windows equivalent of running an ipad with one of those one of those cases that you can you can bring the ipad forward so it's all touch if you want you can go touchscreen touchpad or you pull it back if you want to use the keyboard i don't think it's the kind of thing that i would necessarily use i personally know people that would though i'll give it that because i agree i wouldn't use this but. I personally know people that would though. I'll give it that because I agree. I wouldn't use this,

but I definitely know people that would. I'm not a big touch user. Like I do like to use it, but after switching to the framework, which by the way, we're talking about laptops. I'm invested in framework computer ink. After switching to the framework,

I haven't missed it too much i definitely do miss it and i'm gonna encourage framework to come up with a touchscreen yeah a touchscreen uh replacement module at some point at which time i will upgrade my laptop mark my words that's going to happen um that's cool yeah that's pretty sweet so i like the touchscreen but i don't i'm not a touchscreen first user i never use a stylus it does have but i yeah i was gonna say i think it's more for like art and drafting not not necessarily just being a touchscreen and it's gonna be a super super cool device yeah uh for that it's a 120 hertz 3x2 display what a great aspect ratio h series processor so you're limited to four cores not the greatest but it does have an rtx 3050 ti you could

conceivably game on the thing and thunderbolt 4 alex's thoughts are i'm glad microsoft has finally abandoned the surface book it was cool at first but it's been clear for several generations that the cpu is being held back by being in the screen. And that's specifically because of thermal constraints where you can't let it run very hot because you can't allow a touch surface for user safety reasons to go over a certain temperature. And the whole thing is a touchscreen, right? It would be super cool if it had an eight core cpu option to really take on the xps 15 but

overall looking pretty looking pretty good the surface pro 8 also looks decent 120 hertz 3x2 again finally has thunderbolt 4 i mean i've been asking for thunderbolt on the surface surface pro lineup since thunderbolt 2 was the standard. The Surface Pen now vibrates, and they announced a new Surface Pro X with an ARM processor. This is another Alex note. Riley can check it out, but IMO, it's just a tech demo and too slow to consider actually buying. Ouch!

Ouch! Like, damn! They also announced the new Surface Duo 2, a two-screen Android phone that I guess someone might like. Did anyone actually buy the Surface Duo 2? I want to hear from you. Anyone in floatplane chat? Did you buy a Surface Duo 2? Do you love it? Is it great? Hit me. Come on. Tell me. Oh, vibrating pen. Okay, floatplane chat. Come on Tell me Uh oh vibrating pen Come on grow up Grow up and move on

Never Don't do it Geez Alright I'm waiting for you guys I'm waiting to hear from anyone Anyone floatplane chat I will even acknowledge you Anyone surface do

no youtube anyone surface duo come on i haven't seen a yes anywhere i'm watching all three chats like is that going to be one of those devices that i should buy now like try to get my hands on a gen 1 one and then just leave it sealed because it's going to be this weird relic like they only ever made like six of them and actually ship them to customers uh tyrant rex says i know someone who has a surface duo but clearly as a viewer of our channel uh tyrant rex is too tech savvy to buy a surface duo um oh baraboo live i bought a surface duo and used it for a year since day one all right okay all right i think yeah notice how they didn't include any like that they're happy i have technically purchased this product the epic blacklist from apple devices continues

epic is appealing the ruling made earlier this month. Apple is blocking them from iOS until the appeal is over. Oh, no, we talked about this last week. Whoops. All right. A new Super Mario Brothers movie. Okay. There is technically some new news about that, but it's really not very interesting.

Let's talk about the new Super Mario Brothers movie. There's a cast. There's a cast. As far as my understanding goes It's all voiceover, right? Yes So you're not going to see these people I would also like to note

Before I go through all of the names That the voice actor For Mario Charles Martinet Hopefully I'm saying his name correctly Is still alive. And actually in this. So that's

an important thing to know before I go through it. Mario is going to be Chris Pratt. Peach is going to be Anna Taylor-Joy. Luigi is going to be Charlie Day. Bowser is going to be Jack Black. Now that's just the best thing ever. That's pretty good.

Jack Black as Bowser alone is just kind of everything I need to know. Nothing else matters. Oh, by the way, Seth Rogen is Donkey Kong. So this is pretty great. Seth Rogen being Donkey Kong and Bowser being Jack Black, I think are both probably pretty good. A lot of the rest of them, I can't picture their voices. So I don't know.

But yeah, Charles Martinet is going to like apparently have like bits in it, but he's not Mario, which just seems so like, what are you doing? I don't know. Now, tell me something, Luke. We weren't exactly children at the same time. But when I was a kid, there was a live action super mario brothers tv show are you oh i thought there's a movie are you aware of this i knew about the movie i didn't know about the tv show it's just about the most cringe thing ever i would occasionally watch it

um they're plumbers. Oh, yeah. Okay. I thought this was a movie. I guess it was a TV show. Sorry. Amazing. I guess all I have to say is hopefully it's a little better than that.

And that's not Charles either. In other monumental news news china has banned all cryptocurrency transactions bitcoin lost nearly two thousand dollars in value today after the announcement which by the way is not that much considering how big of a deal cryptocurrency and crypto mining was in china even just a couple of years ago um China's continuing crackdown on cryptocurrency, likely fueled in part by power and fuel shortages. Yep, that's fair enough. It's also probably fueled by control. I mean, a non-fiat currency is a threat to governmental control of their own economy. These energy shortages seriously impacting. Yep. Beijing is apparently even asking some food producers to shut down. So their official

stance on the issue of crypto is that it's a volatile, speculative investment scheme at best and a way of laundering money at worst. The People's Bank of China says virtual currency related business activities are illegal financial activities that seriously endanger the safety of people's assets i mean okay maybe i think it's pretty clear this is china being china and doing china things but do you think that china's ban could lead other nations to do the same or could it have the opposite effect opposite effect um i don't think it's going to have too much of the opposite effect um who is anyone saying it's going to have the opposite effect senator pat to me did a posted quite a bit on twitter actually about china's authoritarian crackdown on on crypto this is a big opportunity for the u.s and you know free free market etc etc etc i mean

economic liberty is good for growth etc i mean it's they're not terrible points quite frankly um sure i yeah i i don't honestly think it's going to mean much for many I guess I'll say it that way because it's I don't think it's had as big of an impact in a ton of other countries as it has had in China it's a very big deal there

it was a very big industry there and China has the I don't know what you want to call it, the infrastructure and engineering capability to like spin up these big Bitcoin firms and support them very quickly and efficiently. It has the workers and the people to do it. It has the hardware output to like make the cards there, make all the hardware that they need there and set it up there. Like they, they were fairly uniquely positioned to do this very quickly and they got behind it very quickly.

Um, and then they squashed it very quickly. You know, I feel like everything there was accelerated. Um, yeah, I don't know. I don't think it's going to impact other countries too much.

I think they're all going to kind of figure out their own things. That's fair. All right. There's a couple of super chats um we're getting some yeah this this is actually um yeah yoinker's wife i didn't know you had your own account um we're getting some bitcoin farms here in dc at the shutdown lumber mills yes that is a thing oh shutdown lumber mills actually have a quite a bit of power some of that machinery takes a lot to run so they're grabbing that power and running running some graphics cards uh s says well my drunk sent us a blank super chat here's my

next try i would love to see a business development video on ltd about your overhead cogs i mean we talk about it from time to time we talked about our revenue sources not that long ago i think that might satisfy your your craving there can you please are you out of time by your static overlay elements oh for oled tv users you know what we probably should. That's a really good idea. I should ask Ed to do an animation for this. Are you out of time, sir? Yes, I am out of time. Can we animate the Wanshow lower third? OLED users are concerned about static elements. Okay, yep, that's fair.

Okay, working on it. Let me just see if there's any other brilliant super chats like that there might be uh but i'm sorry i'm gonna have i think i have to go uh floatplane question why don't you guys advertise floatplane on ltd videos yeah we should do that more often yeah probably you're not wrong uh sorry uh but the pipe wire oh pipe wire for all audio and video make existing av tools and discord really amazing ubuntu 22.04 lts early next year i don't know if we can wait that long we gotta go linux now we gotta go now soda cat says i work in the nsfw industry professionally i would do ltd after dark. No joke. Alright, fair enough. Thank you for that. Nobody needs to see that.

Thanks, Mac. Mac-o-o-91. Alright, later, guys! Bye! Alright, have fun! Okay, I will bye