The WAN Show - Watch Out, Losers! AMD is Making Video Cards for PHONES - WAN Show May 1, 2020

Episode Date: May 2, 2020

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You know what's great about ambition? You can't see it. Some things look ambitious, but looks can be deceiving. For example, a runner could be training for a marathon, or they could be late for the bus. You never know. Ambition is on the inside. So that goal to beat your personal best? Keep chasing it. Drive your ambition mitsubishi motors and welcome ladies and gentlemen to the one and only one show it's the only show where linus and luke sit in their homes and kind of talk tech that they've never heard about before actually some of the topics this week i have looked at already throughout the week because they are darn exciting it's kind of nice it seems like you know for a while with everything that's going on in the world and you know nobody wanted to announce new tech or anything like that uh

just everyone was focused on other stuff and now it's like people are like okay well you know at some point we're gonna have to launch these new products and this new cool stuff's gonna have to happen and it's like happening now. So my big highlight topic. You know what? Normally we do two per host. Okay. Normally we do two per host. I'm going to break the mold, Luke.

I'm doing just one. One highlight topic. So this is a rumor, but it looks pretty credible. The new upcoming Samsung SoC. So this would be some kind of Exynos successor, will apparently use AMD graphics that could be up to three times faster than the Snapdragon 865. We are talking like a different tier of performance in mobile graphics. So, you know, I think that's pretty cool.

What else you got? Pretty exciting. Intel launches 10th gengen desktop CPUs, officially announcing that I am five generations behind. That is less exciting news, Luke. I think I won. One that I actually think is really cool. I think I won.

You left me with the bad ones. But Assassin's Creed Valhalla, Cyberpunk 2077, and all Microsoft Studio first-party games, including Halo Infinite, 2077 and all microsoft studio first party games including halo infinite are going to be uh like multi-console one purchase basically i love it cross-platform purchases like if you if you buy it on xbox series x it'll work on xbox one and vice versa which is cool that's so amazing it's like console people are getting to enjoy the same thing that PC people have enjoyed

for like 20 years. Yeah, it's great. You know, isn't that neat? It's just one more step towards everyone going like, yeah, it's just a PC. Yeah, it's just a PC and it's just a piece of software. So here's whatever you're playing it on

and here's your license to play the game. That's it. It should really be that simple. In sort of, oh man man, see now we're launching into a bit of a topic here. Okay. It'll be really short guys. I promise we'll get to the headline stuff in a minute, but on that same note, um, you know, seeing things kind of go from, uh, it's, it's funny how it kind of happens in waves. Like in the early days of computers, computer games were often like system specific, right? Like even for PCs, you you know whether it was commodore or amiga or whatever the case may be and then we moved to the ibm compatible and everything was like cross compatible and then

you had graphics cards that all used their own rendering techniques and everything got kind of vendor specific again and then directx and OpenGL kind of standardized everything again. And then you got consoles, which were kind of they were around the whole time, but then consoles really exploded. And everything got kind of vendor specific again. And now it feels like we're coming back around once more to cross platform and just owning a license for the software and being able to use it. And, you know, know view it you could think of it kind of like movies like view it on whatever you want but there was some bad news and this is something that i would like to see the circle there the pendulum start to swing the other way on um i forget what game it was but i was uh scrolling through my twitter

feed i'm sure that floatplane chat or one of the other chats can help me out with this but uh there's a game that just shut down their service and i think it was uh it was one of epic's games and people were just like yeah i mean thanks a lot for the memories and everything but like this sucks and this is why this whole paradigm of game companies controlling their uh their servers and not allowing the community to also run their own servers needs to go away because there is an entire era of gaming experiences that is going to be absolutely lost once the companies maintaining the servers go away. Oh yeah, 100%. For sure. People are saying Paragon, battleborn uh it sounds like paragon sounds right i think that might be right um yeah i'm not sure i was off my head yeah so i think i think i

completely agree with that yeah and uh i don't know it's just like i've actually got a video planned pretty soon you'd probably like this concept um it's uh i forget what the title that i had kind of workshopped for it was but the basic premise is going to be uh running really old games that i played when i was younger or that other writers played when they were younger and then never went back and revisited on modern hardware absolutely cranked balls to the wall so you know uh actually you know like massive upscaling and stuff it would be great to have you come on as a guest and play like morrowind with like a crazy texture pack and like running at 8k super sampled down to down to 4k and like i would love to there's there's

quite a bit you can do with with morrowind it's still everything it still looks terrible but well right it's going to but yeah I'm definitely that'd be awesome I think the one that I'm gonna do is not actually that old of a game so it you know is maybe not quite the point of the that I'm trying to get across but the one that I really want to do is Far Cry because that was a game that i played before i could afford top tier hardware i played that on a 9600 pro all in wonder graphics card which is a good mid solid mid-range you know remember when mid-range graphics cards cost 200 bucks canadian uh that was a good solid mid-range graphics card at the time but you could not crank that game and i want to see what it looks like at like 8K or whatever.

Remember when, I mean, nowadays, it's like this whole controversial thing where like, oh, Steam should return people's games if it can't run on their systems and all this kind of stuff. I remember back in the day, it was like aggressively on you to like read the specs on the back of the box. Once you open that seal on the game box,

like it was so easy to rip games by just, you know, the cd and then writing down the product key and then returning it that stores were real real cagey about that yeah and like it actually mattered you had to be you had to really make sure your computer could actually run it based on the specs on the back of the box okay i haven't even like i swear i swear we're gonna get to our topics at some point guys but this is a great discussion and i love it tell me a game that you got over on by buying it without having the right specs to run it and you just like never got to play it i actually don't think that ever happened really well how nice for you you jerk because well my dad was always super concerned about that

oh okay all, all right. So he got my brother and I on the, like, you have to read the specs on the back, because he was into computer hardware back then. My family wasn't. So he was very, very much like, you have to read the specs on the back of the box. You have to make sure it's going to be able to run,

because you don't want to, like, buy this relatively expensive thing. Yeah. And then just come home and be like, duh, it's worthless. So there was a number of times where like there'd be a game we really wanted and my dad would bring us to the store to go get it and we'd figure out that it wouldn't work and then we'd have to like go do odd jobs

paper routes whatever until we could afford the the component that we had to buy to upgrade the computer to buy the game blah blah blah how about this tell me a game that you upgraded for i man i gotta start writing this down because i can actually think of so many i had like i think warcraft 3 i had some pretty ratchet computers when i was a kid i think we needed more ram for warcraft 3 and there was there was a game that we needed a graphics card for because i remember because we needed a graphics card for. Because I remember because we bought the graphics card from Future Shop. Yeah.

I remember that just felt like the most insane thing. Like I felt so cool just strolling in and buying this like probably low to mid tier graphics card. I know, right? But it just felt awesome. And I remember like the... I wish they still did this, but we're clearly in a different era. But like the art that was on the box for the graphics card was so epic. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Well, you were in the era where it was probably like anime chicks and stuff like that, right? And these like jacked dudes with like 4,000 pounds of armor. Yeah. Yeah. It was legit. Oh, man. I don't remember what game that was for, though.

But I'm rather certain we had to upgrade our RAM for Warcraft 3. Okay. it was legit oh man i don't remember what game that was for though but i'm rather certain we had to upgrade our ram for warcraft 3 okay so my buddy had the enough ram to play it and i was like oh i need more ram all right so i'm gonna start with um man i i don't remember exactly which one it was so i'm gonna start with a game that i legitimately never got to play i bought it at l London Drugs and I was super excited to play it. It was it was a Crusader game. It was called Crusader No Regret or Crusader No Remorse. I can't remember which one's the first one and which one's the second one, but it was

the sequel one and it required some kind of something. And I wasn't very techie. I was a kid like I was a little kid and no one in my family was techie and even when we upgraded the computer later i legitimately never got it working because it was like a dos mode game or something and you had to do some stuff in the dos prompt in order to actually like launch it or i don't remember exactly what happened but i looked at the back of the box and i was like this looks like the coolest game and i never ever got to play it it's actually on gog so it's a bit of a lie i i fired it up when um alex did that uh build that

we did a while ago where we loaded it with like the top top thousand games on gog or something like that so i actually played it for about four minutes. It's not very good. No, it doesn't count. I mean, by modern standards. I mean, that makes sense. But it was like so, it's one of those things that I remember, you know, 25 years later as an adult being just like devastated

I didn't get to play this game, right? As for games that we upgraded for, you know what? I love that you mentioned Warcraft 3. I upgraded for Warcraft 3 too. That was the first game that I played when I built my first gaming rig with GeForce onboard graphics. So I'm looking at this.

I think I'm trying to find the requirements, but I'm having a hard time doing it. But I think the game that we had to upgrade the graphics card for was Command & Conquer Red Alert, like the original one the original one red alert one nice i think that was it you know what it probably was you probably had to upgrade for the full motion uh cut scenes i think that's and that that's what actually got me there yeah it's because they had those like movie-like cut scenes yep i bet that was why because i know that uh i know that um a lot of people were upgrading around that time to faster cd-rom drives because they weren't fast enough to

stream so we had to move we had to upgrade our system to run mixed up mother goose of all things when we were kids um that was one that we did get to play ultimately and then there's a couple other ones that i upgraded from that i upgraded for a tie fighter was one that i upgraded for uh for my birthday one year this is like one of my most memorable birthday presents as a kid my aunt got me an upgrade to a pentium processor and uh a top gun joystick that you know oh what's this is so funny um hold on i still own it um and i was I've been cleaning up because I'm clearing out my attic

to re-insulate it for the air conditioner project and here it is my Thrustmaster Top Gun game port joystick you can still get adapters for these they still work that's pretty cool

straight up and actually the feel of it like listen to it move you know it sounds like you're squishing leather around when you move it right and even compared like like i remember shopping for a joystick a while back because what happened with this was uh when i moved in with my mom I left almost everything that I owned with my dad and I didn't get that stuff back for many many years and so I remember shopping for a joystick all this time later and by then everything had turned into totally cheap plastic garbage and even the ones that had like force feedback like I would

look at them in the store and I couldn't even justify spending my allowance on it i was like this feels horrible i don't even want this compared to compared to my old pop gun you know oh yeah it sounds so good you know that's awesome yeah i gotta i gotta play i gotta go back and play that game again i think there's like some mods and stuff for some of the old star wars um space space sim games that make them look pretty outstanding oh my goodness i think i figured out the graphics card that i upgraded for red alert really i think it was an ati rage 128 ultra wow that is wow that is going way back sir i'm pretty sure that's accurate i was accurate. I was looking around at different websites and it showed up under recommended specs

and that's absolutely something we would have done. That was pretty crazy. I definitely remember that it was ATI. You guys got cool stuff when you were a kid. I had to upgrade my graphics card for Civilization 2 Test of Time. So in Test of Time, compared to the regular civ 2 they added these 3d modeled uh characters for the the ambassadors or the the other world leaders or whatever i think

that was the main difference and then there might have been like some in-game cinematic differences or something like that and like a higher resolution soundtrack or like it was kind of like a it was the same basic game but like hd well not hd but but better you know kind of like like now you'll have like a oh now in hd um remastered um and i ended up it was a bargain bites was what the store in mission was just a little hole in the wall computer shop gino from bargain bites uh he helped me install like the most basic possible i see the thing is i went in thinking i was some kind of a baller getting like a graphics card it's a card just for like games that's nuts right uh so i thought i was like doing a big upgrade to my

computer or whatever and he's just looking at this going like Okay so you really do You know this is the minimum spec right Like so the game Called for uh you know what I bet I can probably look at I bet I can look at Civ 2 test of time Minimums uh specs Here we go cause it would It was whatever the minimum specs

Was thank you CNET for having Existed forever Appreciate you fam. Minimum two megabytes of VRAM is the minimum. So I had to get something that just had video memory at all. Apparently it was like 60 bucks or something. It was like one of those graphics cards that doesn't even have like a cooler over it. Like just a little, fan right oh man yikes that's yeah yikes yikes indeed

uh i might have also had to upgrade to a 4x cd-rom at that time can't remember exactly what the what the timeline was there amazing apparently you can still buy this game for 20 on amazon we should uh we should no yes you can yeah all right anyway sorry go ahead we should probably roll intro oh right uh yeah let's let's do the land show uh sorry sorry everyone I like this topic, but yeah. Were people getting mad? I haven't really been looking at chat. Not really, actually. I'm just talking about video games.

Some people were like, is this the Boomer Show? The Boomer Show? No. Left 4 Dead came far later okay hey get it luke didn't play much left 4 dead i did not boomers are one of the zombies don't worry about it don't worry about it it's all good it's all good hey when we played left 4 dead that was pretty fun we really need to do that again that was very fun i'm super down um all right so why don't we jump into the first big topic today uh that's the rumor that samsung's upcoming soc is up to three times

graphically faster than the snapdragon 865 this is so exciting because do you remember like man what was it like 10 years ago five years ago eight years ago i don't remember when it was but the the big pc companies used to be pretty into the whole mobility thing you know intel had their x scale processors like going back to when i was so when i was running the painting business something like i don't know 15 years ago or something like that like you could get like 500 megahertz you know intel x scale processors that ran in like pdas and i forget what ati ati like x xeon or something ati mobile graphics uh x something graphics, uh, X something, man, I can't remember. Someone's gotta, someone's gotta help me out. Um, ATI like handheld graphics. Ah, I don't remember, but, uh, they were Imagion, Imagion. That's it. So ATI had their Imagion thing going on. So when was this?

Imagion products. Oh, come on. Give me a year. Give me a year. The Imagion line was rebranded under AMD and sold to Qualcomm in 2009. So AMD was into it, actually sold that technology to Qualcomm and then has just not been in the game.

Well, a lot has happened in the last, you know, 11 years. And there's no doubt whatsoever that NVIDIA and AMD are the leaders when it comes to graphics. So the fact that, you know, however many hundreds of millions of smartphones out there are running graphics chipsets that are not made by NVIDIA or AMD is like, it's kind of mind blowing, right? Because all of this performance for all these years has been left on the table, whether it's due to, you know, licensing or whether it's due to, you know, patents that these companies hold that others just can't use, even if they did think of it. And I'm just really excited because you look at what has happened when someone who really

knows graphics, like an NVIDIA, has gone in and tried to make a graphics-centric mobile chip like a Tegra. mobile chip like a tagra the the nvidia shield was so far ahead in gaming performance from what anyone else could do at the time and it didn't take off because honestly i think a big part of shield's problem i'm talking like shield portable the handheld gaming system was that it was just so far ahead of its time and to a lesser extent the shield tablet as well like mobile gaming things in general to be honest yep actually a lot of a lot of nvidia's mobile graphics uh endeavors do you remember what were they calling them super phones i think was their branding for it yeah i think it was super phones yeah i think that was about nine years ago nvidia

came up with the concept of a Superphone, which was going to be a regular phone, but like with better graphics. And NVIDIA, they're not the best when it comes to sharing, you know? So I think the stumbling block they ran into there was that instead of licensing the tech, they wanted to build the whole processor themselves

and do phones. And phones just, it's such a different game. They just had, they clearly had no idea what they were doing. And by the time they could get a product to market, it had been leapfrogged once or even twice by the guys who were iterating their phones much faster. And everything was moving so fast.

Processor speed was moving at warp speed. Display quality was changing by leaps and bounds every generation. Camera quality, leaps and bounds, same thing. So they just couldn't make it work. But I think if they came back and tried to tackle it again, they might be in a better position. Hard to say.

Sorry, I feel like I talked a lot. No, regardless, it's really nice to have them back in the field. AMD and Intel were both kind of in the space before as you mentioned and it it almost feels like they both kind of bowed out um yeah we had a while there not way too long back where it was basically just one company and now we're spreading back into more which is which is great uh i don't know more competition is good i'm happy um so just uh to give you guys the scoop on what's going on amd and samsung announced a mobile gpu partnership in mid 2019 and early reports show that that may be bearing pretty uh awesome fruit so a poster on

south korean tech forum klien states that samsung and and AMD's in-house Radeon-based GPU, quote, crushed, unquote, Qualcomm's Adreno 650 in a GFX bench test scoring 181.8 FPS on the Manhattan 3.1 test. That's less impressive, but could also be CPU bound. Remember, Samsung is still gonna be using the same ARM based course that qualcomm will so you're not going to see in a cpu bound test a super significant difference in

performance but more impressively we saw 138 fps on aztec normal so that's more than double what an adreno 650 would do and just about 60 fps on aztec high which is almost triple an adreno 650 so when it comes to a high fidelity mobile gaming where you're not cpu bound and you're you're really you're able to crank up details so whether it's a shadow detail or anti-aliasing or whatever the case may be uh this kind of gpu horsepower could be a total, total game changer. And what's cool is that, okay, maybe you're not into the next Galaxy phone running an Exynos processor because maybe you're an iPhone person or maybe you're a OnePlus person or whatever, who cares? Or maybe you're just unlucky enough to live in a region where Samsung doesn't ship Exynos

and they ship Snapdragon instead. Your luck will have changed if that's the case, because typically it's been lucky to be in a Snapdragon region, not the other way around. But okay, maybe you don't care about the particular device that this article is about, but AMD graphics in mobile could be a movement is what I'm trying to say. Like it's going to make its way into Samsung's tablets as well. And so maybe that kind of graphical horsepower isn't necessary for a phone, but on a tablet or on something, you know, more akin to like an Android based gaming device, kind of like a Nintendo switch, like a dockable, uh, you know, controller docking gaming device. device uh it's

just good news absolutely good news all around what do you think this would do for mobile gaming because like there there's clearly a lot of mobile gamers right now but most of the games that they're playing uh they already like when when things are still, they already look pretty good. Yes. Most of the action is like super canned sequence. Like you put one input and then your character does a whole bunch of stuff and then resets back to their position. Like it's not very live rendered type of gameplay. And a lot of the gameplay is a little, sorry, mobile gamer bros, but it's a little empty because they're just trying to get your money.

Do you think this could change the types of games that are made for mobile? To me, there's a few things this means. There's going to be a long lead time on anything significant changing, because if I'm a mobile game development company i'm targeting the broadest possible audience oh yeah so on ios that means handy clicker anything that is on apple's uh still supported device list i'm gonna make sure that thing runs a-okay on it uh android i mean that's why you see android games that still run on like android 6 right like um you want as many people as possible to be able to play your game but in the very long term i mean you're going to get all the usual benefits you're going to get better graphical fidelity obviously because anytime the

industry gets a big push forward that forces others to play catch up and then once that hardware is all out there i mean game developers yeah some of the people who work at game developers are horrible suits who are just out to extract as much money through microtransactions from whales as they possibly can but a lot of the people who work at mobile game developers are artists too and they're going to try and take advantage of the hardware that's out there so i think you're going to get better looking games another advantage is you're going if it doesn't look better it's going to use less of the resources so you could see better power consumption like maybe samsung takes this this

early test because we're not even expecting a device until uh samsung's successor to the exynos 990 in 2021 like maybe samsung takes this early test and goes hey we actually don't even need all this performance to be competitive. Let's ratchet the power consumption way down, make this thing crazy efficient. Maybe you're gaming on your phone for six, seven hours of screen time because of technology like this. Right. That is one thing like these tests, they don't talk about power consumption or thermals at all. Yeah.

So it did perform extremely well um but we don't know necessarily how well it does in the other arenas um the other thing that i see potentially happening and this is pure speculation on my part but if amd is in this partnership with samsung it means AMD is learning a lot about how far down they can scale their RDNA. What is it? RDNA 2 is what this one is supposed to be based on. Unfortunately, it's not in my notes. Oh, yes, it is. RDNA based.

So they're learning a lot about how they can scale RDNA. And what that tells me is that that knowledge that they're gaining through this partnership could potentially be applied elsewhere. As far as I can tell, NVIDIA has been pretty foot-draggy on their mobile GPUs because they basically have no competition in the space. But if all of a sudden AMD came along and was like, you know what, it's not good enough for us to have Microsoft and Sony locked down. Why don't we make another play for Nintendo?

If AMD is learning enough about our DNA and how it scales down, maybe we see a more powerful Switch and then maybe Nvidia responds because they want to win it back in the next generation. So this just means better technology for consumers moving forward. The more players there are in a space,

the less likely you are to have an incumbent just sitting there twiddling their fingers because nobody's around to compete so i'm excited there you go yeah that's good i mean anything that pushes that space forward is good because um it would be cool if mobile games were actually like good and fun and stuff this is spectacular did you see this in the notes and mad uh adreno the uh the the name for for qualcomm's uh on board graphics is an anagram of radion because it is based on the imagion intellectual property here i was trying to remember that it was called imagion it's actually in my notes down at the very bottom that's hilarious i totally did not realize that pretty great yeah i had no idea all right um but yeah like and it's

something that i would also like and this is maybe uh painting me via boomer to a certain degree but whatever um is one thing that we saw a little bit like like a year, year and a half ago, I think, were ports of like console and PC games coming to mobile phones. And they just sell them for whatever amount of money. It's not a microtransaction thing. It's like a one-time purchase of the game. I know they did that with a Star Wars game and a couple other things.

More of that, if the phones have more graphical power, could be a pretty cool way to just like cruise around in some game that you're nostalgic about on your phone while you're bored absolutely i mean that was something that nvidia was pushing back when they released the um oh was it the shield con the twitch stream is dead the shield console oh really yeah oh interesting twitch stream is down full plane still going uh well i don. Twitch stream is down. Floatplane is still going. Well, I don't know if there's anything we can do. Nope, Floatplane is dead. Sorry. Oh, really?

They're all dead? Twitch is back. I'm supposedly still live. Twitch is back. Apparently it's lagging. Floatplane is back. YouTube is still down. Well, hopefully it comes back.

I think YouTube is back now. back now okay okay we're good cool why don't we move on to our next topic here yeah uh what do you want to do i picked the last one you go ahead walk us through uh i i'm there's probably not a lot to talk about but assassin's creed valhalla uh was announced and with it it was announced that you only need to buy it once uh on xbox that would include xbox one xbox series x basically whatever xbox console you have as long as it's past 360 i guess um it would it would work and with that includes a number of other things as well including cyberpunk 2077 which probably means city project red moving forward which is great um assassin's creed being included probably means ubisoft moving forward and microsoft

has said that microsoft studio titles moving forward will all be doing this as well including halo infinite so there's three studios basically already signed on which is which is fantastic um to a certain degree i think this already kind of worked. You just had to buy the old one. Because if I remember correctly, backwards compatibility was a thing. So you could just buy the Xbox One version and use it on your Xbox Series X.

But for digital stuff, I'm not 100% certain that that worked. So now that this is a thing, I think that's really cool. I think it's just great for consumers. Yes. Sony doesn't have anything similar yet, but the reality of it is it's a two-horse race. What one of them does, the other one has to respond to

in some meaningful way. And I think that while we are getting our consumer rights eroded slowly but surely by the move to, you know, always online DRM schemes and, you know, multiplayer game modes that you can only access by playing through the game developer servers. So that you're not able to continue to enjoy them 10 years later when the game developer is not maintaining those servers anymore like our ownership of software is going away there there's no doubt whatsoever in my mind i mean you can even see the big industry trend towards are away from single monolithic purchases towards buying a license for the game in one form or another. And, you know, don't kid yourself buying the game and then like a season's pass and then a DLC and then some in-game items and in-game currency. That's that's all effectively games as a service.

It's the same thing. It's trying to keep you paying for something more the more that you use it. That's that's the paradigm, right? something more, the more that you use it. That's the paradigm, right? So as that's happening, it's good to see at least there's one area where they're giving something back to us. And that's in our right to enjoy the content however we see fit. It is baffling to me that if I buy a Blu-ray of a movie, that it is not within my rights as a consumer to rip a aforementioned Blu-ray and watch it on my phone through Plex.

That would be madness to me, having a Blu-ray of a movie in my personal collection and then having to rent it on the Google Play Store so that I could watch it on my phone. That's nuts, you know? Yep, Completely agree. I mean, honestly, I'm going to propose something that wouldn't be popular to business people, but I think that for upgraded formats for content, there shouldn't be an additional charge as well. If I own the DVD

of some show and the Blu-ray comes out, like they remastered on Blu-ray, you know, five years later or whatever the case may be, I think I should get the high resolution version for free. I already paid for a license to it. I definitely shouldn't get the physical one. No, but I should have access to it. I should I should completely guilt-free have access to it in some way. And, you know, I'll be completely honest with you guys. There are things that I own on DVD, and I have my DVD in my attic, and I just downloaded a high-def version of it. Because, like, no. No.

I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that i'm not playing that game i think that's a stupid game um you're gonna sell plenty of copies of it to people who don't already own it but you look at how much as an individual consumer you're contributing to the production of whether that's a tv show or a movie uh by actually buying a dvd or a blu-ray and it's like way more than anything other than going to a physical theater and paying to see it so at that point it's like yeah if i if i own all the dvds you've already gone to the theater and seen it and now you're also buying the dvd i almost never do that believe some people do i'm not necessarily claiming you did i know uh my family definitely did with lord of the rings yeah oh no i'm not saying it's a crazy thing to

do i'm just saying like i've kind of become one of those people that doesn't watch movies again like uh the last the last star wars for example i only watched it once although that's not why i only watched it once because it was bad yeah um that's a rough rough series of movies oh my um yeah i i kind of rarely watch shows and i rarely watch movies i have very recently started watching this is pretty off topic but very recently started watching bob's burgers with i've been meaning to i heard it's good it's pretty funny i like it um i liked archer a lot and it has the the the voice actor for archer voice acts a bunch of the characters in bob's burgers and he's like his main character bob is like the same person. Just if you put that person in like a middle-aged dude that owns a burger

shop instead of a super assassin spy. Got it. And it's, it's great. I like it. It's awesome. I've been meaning to watch. I heard it's really good,

but that's like it. I don't, I don't watch anything else. I don't know why I'd usually rather do almost anything else than like sit passively and watch something. So you've watched Rick and Morty though though right not all of it really that's mostly due to limited access not oh you're on my plex server if that makes sense i should do that yeah i mean no totally don't have those i know i know you but whatever i where am i i actually i uh i sometimes i'm a little bit

slow uh on my physical backing of what's on it but my my rick and morty blu-rays are all here now so there you go i mean that's another thing so my personal sort of you know code of ethics on all this is if there's a high resolution version when i make my purchase i make a point of buying that one even though it is more expensive uh but then also you know we've got, I make a point of buying that one, even though it is more expensive. But then also, you know, we've got actually there's a lot of discussion in floatplane chat about sort of my approach here, because people are basically like, oh, Linus admits to piracy. And it's like, you know what, you can you can see it however you want. For me, it's not about did you break the rules? Or did you, you know, this section of the whatever code? To me, it's about sort of having a personal sense of ethics about it and supporting content creators. By the time I

spend, you know, $60 or whatever it was, I have contributed so much more to the production of that show than someone who sits down on their cable subscription and watches Rick and Morty every time it comes up as something that they can watch yeah that I I just I utterly guilt-free um I've watched a decent amount of it I like it a lot I just yeah it's it's it's been a limited access issue and I've also I've done kind of the same thing like i bought the blu-rays for all of the seasons of um the clone wars animated series yeah because i just freaking loved it and i wanted to watch that i still haven't watched it yeah um it's good i uh i have always watched it while doing something else oh okay that's not a great endorsement i still like it a lot yeah but like okay sure um okay so there's there's a couple people talking about this in

floatplane chat so coy wolf says maybe a re-release i could see but not a remaster there was money put toward that now okay the problem for me is that a lot of the stuff in a remaster is not stuff that i care about i never watch like behind the scenes extras and interviews or anything like that. Um, yeah, that's, that's, that's tough. I probably shouldn't have used the term remaster to be perfectly honest. I think that's the bigger issue because if we're just taking the, uh, if it's something that already existed digitally, for example, because there's there's movies now that were actually no, probably probably. I'm just trying to think if they would be if they would be film film masters or digital masters for some of the stuff that's gone from from a DVD original release to Blu-ray. Now, you know, I'm a little bit hazy on that, so I'm not going to talk about it. But I guess it depends on what's really happened with the remaster.

If they have gone and, you know, added deleted scenes that had heavy CGI work done on them. Because then every studio is just going to try to find some way to justify the fact that they can't give you the remaster for free. Yeah, yeah, that's true. So I guess, you know what? Here's what I'll say. I already gave you your 20 bucks.

And you know what? I'm just not going to feel bad about it. There. That's my personal line. I gave you more than most people ever will. What about a situation? Someone just posted this in Twitch chat. Yeah.

FF8 remaster, for example, paying extra for them to optimize the game for pc uh sorry which one was this he said final fantasy 8 i don't understand necessarily what his comment is about are you talking about like a port i definitely played it on pc so yeah wait yeah final fantasy 8 already existed on pc yeah it was like six discs or something uh yeah okay here i'm not really a hundred percent sure what you're asking and that's i mean that's another that's seven he said seven oh seven or he corrected to seven okay seven is a perfect example of a game that you should absolutely pay for the remaster because seven if i recall correctly was not available on pc or was it i don't think it was see a lot of people are saying it was seven not eight now

yeah okay yeah yeah yeah uh yeah no i don't think that ever got a pc release and the final fantasy seven uh i wouldn't call it a remaster it's like they didn't just update some textures like this is a reimagined game um and that's absolutely something that you would you would have to pay for so there's so there's three there's re-release remaster and reimagined yeah so that's i'm just i'm look i'm just saying the line is a little bit blurry and if i'm not getting any additional content that is meaningful to me then i don't care in my life i have owned two box sets of the star wars original trilogy i have the one that has um blue text on the front for a new hope and then i think it's like purple for Empire

and then red for Return of the Jedi. I had that one. That was before any of the like Dubax dickery. Yeah. And then I also own the golden special edition box set. And both of them were thrown away when I moved, but they weren't given to someone else. So as far as I'm concerned, they're still mine.

They were ultimately destroyed. I paid for them. I have spent as much on the original three movies as I feel like I have to, and I will download a new copy of them if I damn well, please. There. Like, I'm not gonna, I, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm just please. There. Like, I'm not gonna, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm just, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna play that game. Some people in chat are super pissed that you destroyed the unedited version.

Well, I didn't mean to. Guys, I moved. Like, I moved from my dad's house to my mom's house. All I had was my clothes on my back. Like, I didn't destroy it. I think they thought you meant when you were older. I don't think they realized you meant that you were older i don't think they realized oh no no i was like i was a kid and uh and i and i decided that i was gonna i was gonna look so my

parents were split and uh i decided that i was gonna move in with my mom and it was sort of a an emotional decision and i didn't really have a lot of time to plan. Like I left behind everything. Like I didn't, uh, yeah, I didn't have anything. Yeah. Um, say areas brings up another thing. You also can't buy the de-specialized editions anymore, but you can download them. Yeah. That's a good point. Now I, you know, again, down to my personal sort of code of ethics here, I gotta give, I gotta give Lucasfilm or Disney, I gotta give them some money if I have never, you know, down to my personal sort of code of ethics here, I got to give I got to give Lucasfilm or Disney, I got to give them some money if I have never, you know, contributed to the production of those movies before. But I could totally see myself being like, okay, yeah, you know,

here's some money, I'll buy some, you know, other crap I didn't need, you know, some, some friend of my kids, you know, for a birthday party, instead of getting them like a $20 plastic thing, I'll get them like a really nice like, you know, $75, $80, like Star Wars thing. Okay, you know, here you go. I will now guilt-free just go download those movies because ultimately you've got my money. What does it matter beyond that,

that people are able to create and be paid for their work? Oh, sorry, one second. Oh, he switched. Yeah, I'm broadcasting. I will come down when I'm done. Okay. Thanks. I like the head pats.

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I've used it for many, many years. And one of the things that I used it for is is not having to bother ripping my Blu-rays. Many of my Blu-rays are still sealed in plastic but i definitely definitely have copies of them and i have never gotten uh i've never gotten a letter from my internet service provider so i'm just gonna leave it there lmd.gg slash pia check it out all right cool all right go ahead you can hit me with that just a quick question again if you'd like to start a whole long discussion so you you had pirated things when you were younger was that mostly out of inability to purchase uh okay so there's a there's a number of elements

to me pirating games when i was younger as as a kid i like did not have money um and i'm i'm talking like when i was a kid not when i was like 16 i'm talking when i was a kid like i was 13 um i did not own money um also you know like at that time i was still running it was either a pentium 90 or a pentium 166 and you guys got to remember that's in like or a Pentium 166. And you guys got to remember that's in like 1990. What year did I start high school? So that's in like 1999, like year 2000. That's real outdated hardware at that point. Like if I had money to buy games, I would have money to like, own a game console or like a better computer. Like I really did not have any money. Um, so yeah, didn't have a lot of money. Uh, the other factor was that my parents like, didn't believe that

video games are good for you. So I didn't really like get video games as gifts. There were a couple of exceptions. My, and like, it's funny, like the kinds of things that stand out to you when you're an adult, right? Like my, uh uh my grandma bought me warcraft 2 um ties of darkness and beyond the dark portal she actually got me the battle chest that had warcraft 1 in it as well but i didn't really play warcraft 1 warcraft 2 is an infinitely better game um but uh you know there were very very few games there were like the ones that you know my mom thought was cool like uh you know missed and like as a kid that's not a particularly compelling game so whatever i could get my hands on was what i went with

uh i also i also straight up pirated music you know and that one i think was as simple as i was a kid and just didn't care uh we got a c burner and Napster and I was like, this is the best thing ever. You'd have to be an idiot to buy music. In fairness to me, the state of the industry at that point where if there was one song, if you like Barbie Girl by Aqua, you had to go buy a bunch of actually Aqua's a bad example because all of their music is fantastic. But you had to go buy an entire album of songs you don't care about for these one hit wonders. And that was revolutionized. Thank you, Apple by the iTunes store.

You know, that was a stupid situation. And as a kid, like, you know, 20 bucks on an album when I really just did not have $20 was not realistic. And so I can see why I saw it the way I did. I used to love this, um, old, I think it was on new grounds video that just had like this animated pirate swinging his arms like this. Yeah.

Our fiddle DT. And then it just said, LOL. Lime wire in like, yeah. I know the one. Yeah. That's great.

Um, so did you ever go back and try to, uh, no, like support? No, I don't think I did it even once. Like things that I played a long time ago. Yeah. But you have actively supported since then. I, I have, I have definitely not been perfect at it.

I will say that much. But I have made an earnest effort to contribute to the things that I care about. Sometimes it's actually impossible. I can tell you now, there's definitely movies on my Plex server that I do not own physical copies of. But I can also tell you that the vast majority of them I have never watched. And it's more about just convenience. It's like, yeah, I'll probably want to watch that at some point. Um, and that's not, that's not something that I personally think is right. That's something that I just have allowed to slide mostly lately out of convenience. And I

probably shouldn't do that. That's sort of my, that's my take on that all right interesting i um i have tried in a bunch of different ways to support in some way since then there were certain games that i like bought merch for because like the game had been so discounted at this point that it's like two dollars yeah and i'm like it's not gonna matter the retailer the retailer is going to be taking 50 cents of this and then it's like two dollars yeah and i'm like it's not gonna matter the retailer the retailer is going to be taking 50 cents of this and then there's nothing left basically yeah so i'll like i i would i think i'm basically done now but i would have like bought a shirt or like something i don't know i would have done something okay try to support it here's another here's another sort of you know uh fine line sort of question.

How do you handle a show that you love that doesn't have like a you own it forever Blu-ray style release yet, where you're expected to pay on a per episode basis or whatever the case may be, but you own all the previous seasons, but you do not have a cable TV subscription? See, I think I'm kind of lucky in this situation because i don't really watch very many shows okay fair enough um i'm yeah i can't think of a a major major one there because i'm not i'm not super into shows there

is some stuff yeah no everything that i do like has some available way to support them directly. the ads turned on um their monetary contribution to be clear i am not down on any any of our fans even the ones that turn ad block on and never buy anything from ltdstore.com there is still a clear benefit to people watching linus tech tips or tech quickie or whatever short circuit uh there's a clear benefit to people watching it because algorithmically that helps. You know, even something as small as leaving a thumbs up or a comment on a video is totally meaningful to me. And I am grateful to everyone who participates in that way. But there is also the monetary aspect of supporting content creators. And I can tell you guys that based on the numbers that we have very real access to, compared to somebody who watched every video

that Linus Tech Tips ever made with the ads turned on, someone else who keeps their ad blocker on and buys one water bottle has contributed more to our bottom line to like paying the salaries of the people who make the content. So, you know, when I, when I go out there and, you know, buy even, you know, one season of a show I have already, I know for an absolute fact contributed more to the bottom line of that show than someone who watched the entire thing ad supported. So, you know, knowing that gives me, I guess, some peace of mind in my approach,

because I know how I feel about it. And so if the golden rule is to treat other people how you want to be treated, then, you know, I'm trying. Yeah, someone brought up letter kenny um i really like letter kenny i don't know if it's age appropriate for everyone watching so pay attention to that but um they said it's impossible to get in australia yeah um yeah australia gets the shaft on a lot of stuff like that yeah i'm looking at right now you can buy the physical dvds but like they're almost certainly coming from canada and i doubt they have a a nice shipping setup there so the shipping for the one dvd is probably going to cost more than the dvd um so that's a really unfortunate kind of situation i don't know people are pitching us all these edge cases grand fat man over on

floatplane says okay linus and luke what about when you have a netflix account but they take the show that you were watching off the service before you got to the last season do you just go and pirate the last season honestly speaking i would like look that's like not my fault um you know mom and dad need to get their issues sorted out as far as i'm concerned i'd maybe look into um i mean i don't even have a netflix account because of basically this um it's kind of unreliable yeah i don't like the idea of streaming services because of that something like disney plus i can actually get behind more no way that fragmentation is terrible but the okay yeah so that's fair yeah i'm not i don't i have no subscriptions right now i don't even have amazon

prime i canceled that really you got rid of prime i didn't order enough stuff online how do you not order enough stuff online for amazon prime you freaking cheapskate you literally buy nothing it kind of wow that's like kind of amazing and i usually uh i mean i don't want them to literally run the entire world so i try to often buy things elsewhere but yeah i don't i don't buy that's fair enough stuff so the the yearly subscription i did the yearly subscription versus uh the cost of just paying for shipping and i was like this doesn't make sense for me at all and i don't i don't watch the shows i don't do i don't like i don't get any of the other benefits i don't know i don't know if i told uh i know i told you this i don't know if i told the wan show this um they sent me physical mail telling me to watch amazon prime really they're like do you know that you have this benefit and i was like how old do they think i am

yeah you must you must just show up as like straight up boomer probably yeah so i i i killed that that girlfriend has prime nope don't think so uh she might actually i don't know i don't use it though yeah i sincerely doubt it um so yeah i don't know i have literally i i have active subscriptions to zero streaming services right now and i'm not pirating things fabricator says he gets it through your account linus lol okay actually no we very recently banned people from using the work prime account and the reason was that they kept billing personal purchases to the work credit card and it creates a lot of work for the accounting department but for the longest time we actually we actually did have like 25

people using that single private account it wasn't me i wasn't in that to be clear it's just like i mean i never explicitly uh i never explicitly said it was okay so i was just gonna plead ignorance if amazon was like yo this is sort of against tos because i have no idea what their terms of service are but uh yeah no i i did get the emails being like who bought this but yeah i never used that account what about blizzard that's not they don't stream what huh all right they don't stream shows and movies but all right intel launches 10th gen desktop cpus yay not all of them intel's comet lake s processors were announced across core i9 i7 i5 and i3 tiers the top tier 10 900k what a terrible name will support 10 cores and 20 threads peaking at 5.3 gigahertz and 125 watts with a $488 suggested retail price. This will likely make

that chip the leader when it comes to gaming. Still no PCI Express Gen 4, but there is new DMI and PCI Express graphics overclocking features to try and mitigate the AMD advantage in this area. They're using a new socket, LGA1200, and you will need a new motherboard if you move to Comet Lake S. So what this basically means is that these chips are not for the upgrade market at all. And if you are buying one of these, you are also definitely buying a motherboard, putting this new platform up against AMD's... Wait, they've announced... One second. Wait, they've announced... One second. Yes, AMD has already announced the B550 chipset.

So they're up against a budget chipset from AMD with support for PCIe Gen 4 and even bifurcation. I don't know if you know this, but B550 is... Wait, do we know that yet? I would be careful. I just never know. Now, you know, you never will it. Hold on.

I'm actually not 100% sure. Whatever. The point is they're up against... Where am I? They're up against a value chipset, okay? And great value chips, and they're still running 14 nanometer. I'm just going to shut up before I say anything that's wrong

because I think I also got some information wrong in there. Either way, chips have been launched. uh sites have uh content out about it now yeah um as far as i know i'm just throwing that out there everything i said before is allegedly nice perfect yeah allegedly um as far as i know there's still some content that is embargoed like the uh 10 900k uh it's overclocking is that am i correct on that i actually don't really know anything about the 10 900k but i do think people at our company do know about it uh there was one feature that we actually tweeted about today on the work account so i know for a fact i can talk about that um it's got this is this is spectacular uh here we go it's got three different levels of boost so you got your base clock all

right up to 3.7 you've got your turbo boost 2.0 with that which has a maximum single core turbo frequency of up to 5.1 you've got your turbo boost max technology 3.0, which is up to 5.2. And then you've got your Intel thermal velocity boost technology, single core maximum turbo of 5.3. What even is that? Like, what are you even talking about at this point? Yeah. like what are you even talking about at this point yeah i'm trying to find this tweet where is this tweet oh there it is yeah it's great yeah what the heck

so i wish i wish intel luck but it does look like it is going to be a bit of a rough ride over the next little bit um i just thought they had to put intel at the beginning of every single one of those things well intel trademark you know how the branding is you know how the branding is they got to have intel tm in there for everything uh what else we got going on today oh so i have an update on the uh show that's been our our ups exploding in the server room so our new unit from eaton is here and we're going to be installing it with brian the electrician sometime in the next little bit that's going to be a video and eaton is going to send someone out to make sure that we've done it correctly this time uh they gave us a very good deal on the new

ups even though we were out of warranty they they have helped us out a fair bit here and so i'm i'm i'm pretty jazzed to have our servers protected again because we actually already had a pretty bad situation with some power flickering and some servers turning off and we actually had some data corruption on one of our unraid machines on the the cache drive that was holding our vm so we lost a couple of vms um that's caused jake a fair bit of headache so he in particular is very excited to get the new ups rolled out yeah i suspect i suspect so uh more intel news this is interesting.

According to the original source from Monantech, Intel's 10 nanometer node could actually be less profitable than 22 nanometer, even though if you think about it, with 10 nanometer, the chip should get smaller and should therefore use less silicon, so you could make more of them per wafer. In an interview with Intel CFO George David, he said that 10 nanometer will be less profitable than 22 nanometer let alone 14 nanometer he says look this just isn't going to be the best

node that intel's ever had that is such a great quote it's already not the best node intel's ever had uh it's going to be less productive than 14 less than 22 the fact is it isn't going to be as strong a node as people would expect from 14 or what they'll see in seven also commented on 10 nanometer performance not chip performance but financial performance saying it hasn't hit the targets required oh so is this due to a failure rate that's rough um i would guess it's to do with that and to do with just the costs to produce them big yikes i mean part of it too, I'm not reading all the notes here,

so I'm just kind of guessing at this point, but part of it too could have just been how much cost they've sunk into development of it at this point. And just knowing that they're just never going to get some of that back. But yeah, Intel is on the record admitting that they're playing catch up.

And you know, the thing is, guys, a lot of people are talking about how Intel's, you you know down for the count or they're doomed or amd is gonna take over whatever like get real you guys intel is a very organized business organization there whatever i said organized twice but i think it bears it bears mentioning twice they are an enormous machine and they have their fingers in so many different pies that even if AMD took 100% market share of desktop CPUs, Intel would still be very, very much alive. I mean, I did a new workstation build this week running Threadripper, third gen, 24 core

processor, amazing processor. It runs a little hotter than I expected. I was following Intel rules when I specced the cooler for the system. So typically with Intel, you know, you've got eight different chips that are rated at whatever TDP. And as you go down in clock speed or core count, like that was just like a worst case scenario. And it's like, actually a lot less than that. So I assumed that the 280 watt TDP of the 24 core third gen Threadripper was like, ah, probably not. No, no, it definitely actually, actually sucks back 280 watts of power when you're loading it up fully.

So we're gonna have to change up the cooler in that. But anyway, the point I was gonna make here was that even in an AMD CPU, AMD motherboard system, Intel still got some silicon in there, we went with an Optane based boot drive, because it is hands down the fastest you can get for a boot drive today. And these are serious machines for serious work. We want that responsiveness, we want that endurance, and we want that trust, honestly. not going to die uh i would take intel over almost any brand quite frankly like when's the last time you saw a dead intel cpu and like yes if you work in a tech shop sure you're gonna encounter them it does happen but as like a consumer the odds of having a cpu from either amd or intel die just sort of spontaneously very low i haven't't seen a CPU death on either side that wasn't prompted by some form of misuse in like many, many years.

The only one that I had die, and it was overclocked, so I was definitely pushing it, but I didn't push it that far, was I had an opter on 165 die that was that sort of overclocker friendly uh um yes quote unquote server chip but actually it was just a desktop chip that people were buying for overclocking because it was cheap for some reason i think um cloud stuff isn't really going to care about pretty much everything that you just mentioned though, because a lot of cloud infrastructure these days, um, I don't remember

the acronym for it, but it's like shoot it in the head or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Like if something just starts acting improperly, just end it and get another one. Um, and like spin things down and spin things up rapidly and have tons of, uh, redundancy and all this other kind of stuff. So like one server going down is not catastrophic. Um,

and if they can save on their monthly by having like cheaper hardware, hardware that does more, um, they're probably going to go with that and then just do more shoot it in the head operations if they need to, which is, I mean, processors, like, like we just said

basically never go down on either side so yeah yeah all right he's doing pretty well on that well that's pretty much all that i had for uh must talk about topics uh i guess we should go through some super chats probably i'm not gonna have time to do a ton of them as you guys know i'm supposed to go down and eat my dinner robert male says rtx voice on fermi isn't as easy as kepler and newer due to eol working on driver modding now i'll post on the forums if i get it working oh yeah okay just a lot of discussion around rtx voice no i'm not actually using it i'm just in a quiet room right now have you tried oh no you don't have an rtx card nope um you can still use it on the older ones you just need a mod of dxe or something like that oh interesting it does use up some some coup de corps though so it could affect gaming performance even if it's marginal okay uh

lucky says saw your rtx intro on another video does that mean we'll see it more often yes that is the plan as for ltx news stay tuned stay tuned. Stay tuned. Not yet. Startup says, Wait, do I have it on? I don't think I have it on, guys. Nope, I am not using it unless OBS is set to... Nope, you imagined it. So that's okay.

It's okay to imagine things. Oh, shoot. Nick. Nick said, hey, bring up the job postings. We're hiring again. Where are they? What are we hiring for? Where is it?

I don't see it. Also, go buy stuff at neltzstore.com so that we can afford to hire these people. Ah, yes, so you can go check them out at linusmediagroup.com. We've got two new job postings on the merch team. I will actually just bring that up and kind of read you the highlights here. We've got a We're Hiring section on there somewhere, presumably.

We're going to need to update this site. We haven't really looked at it in a while. What's work for hire? Oh, no, that's just it. Okay, that's a stupid name for that. Jobs, there it is. Okay, manufacturing engineer slash industrial designer. This is for Creator Warehouse.

So you'll be reporting to the COO. That is Mr. Monsieur Nick Light. So you will lead manufacturing efforts around a variety of custom consumer products, which will be distributed through lttstore.com and other online marketplaces. We're looking for an individual who's motivated to work in manufacturing and design and who's willing to work both independently

as part of a team. So we're looking to create some pretty next level stuff, basically. We also need a part-time customer support representative slash assistant for also creator warehouse. So we're building up the team there. LTTstore.com has been very successful thanks to your guys' support. And we are very, very excited to keep making more and better stuff for LTTstore.com.

So yes, Nick, I have. I have, in fact, told them about it. Thank you very much for that. All right. So thanks for tuning in this week. Oh, wait. No, I was doing super chats ah yes uh tommy again says strange question i want to swap my thread ripper 1920x for 1950x can't find a decent one used can you guys sell me one um i mean i don't even know what we would have lying around for something like that. Sorry. Blake says, any plans for a new

sleeper PC? I do think we are going to do a new sleeper PC sometime in the next little bit. It's a very successful series for us and they're a lot of fun to do. So might not be in a computer this time. Maybe like a VCR or something like that would be pretty cool. Nick S says, if you could make an educated guess, do you think Ryzen 4000 desktop chips will support B450 boards or will AMD lock them to X570 and forward? I'm not even going to guess. I mean, AMD has been in a good way,

but they've been kind of all over the place with respect to forward and backwards compatibility. Langley Pressure Washing says, LTT Minecraft server, mc.ltt.gg this segue brought to you by the ltd minecraft mod team yeah yeah yeah yeah and yes we're still working on skyblock um jake's been really busy fixing server infrastructure stuff and getting videos prepped for me so uh we're work we're working on it we're working on it uh zion says what are your thoughts

on western digital's use of shingled magnetic recording and nas drives um bad like have you been following that saga no oh yeah am uh amd um western digital and i'm trying to remember if no i don't think c got caught doing it too. Western Digital got caught using shingled magnetic recording in NAS drives and sort of more importantly, just in drives without disclosing it. Yikes. Yeah. So particularly for something like RAID operation, shingled magnetic recording is not optimal

and it should never have been in a WD-RAID. I don't know what the heck they could have possibly been thinking. Pretty gross. Smarfy says, hope you they could have possibly been thinking. Pretty gross. Smarfy says, hope you're safe and doing well. Love your work. Any thoughts on the future of Samsung DeX or DeX-like products? So using your smartphone as a desktop experience. Ah, man, Android as a desktop is just so obviously not a focus for Google that I just, I just have doubt that it'll ever be any good like they start and abandon so many things um samsung seems like more into it but samsung also gets like really into weird stuff that never takes off sometimes so yeah i i don't know this might be a weird take

but i'm kind of happy it died just because i think it gave people a lot of like false hope of something they could do and probably drove purchasing decisions that were not very easy to take back well dex isn't dead yeah but it's kind of crap isn't it it's better now but yes but that But that's what I mean, though, is like if you try to promote, which no one really does, which is good. If you tried to promote VR as like a six monitor, multi desktop, hyper productivity. Oh, wait, no, no. Dex is different.

I know. Oh, OK. If you tried to promote it that way. Oh, I see what you mean. Okay, so when they launched the Note 9, Samsung had this gigantic segment of the announcement that was focused on Dex. It wasn't that good.

So it's kind of like when people were promoting VR as amazing and then people tried it and it wasn't that good and it soured them on VR forever. Yeah. So I would kind of hope that it died for a while. Right. I don't know how long that while is. And then eventually it gets really good

and you can genuinely just have a phone that you dock and everything's great. That would be cool. But I don't want like the whole concept behind that to completely die just because it kind of sucks right now and they over-promote it and make it seem realistic to normies and not just hyper early adopters if it was just like a feature that they had and they were working on and it was like kind of cool to mess with every once in a while that's fine but the promotion of it as um like a legitimate thing is slightly

problematic to me right this is interesting there's a there's a message in the chat um actually worked on the smg amd gpu as an intern interesting to see it here what's uh what is victor talking about what's the smg ap amd gpu did we talk about that smg and yeah no google's not bringing anything up now there is oh he probably means samsung oh okay cool okay because i thought he might be talking about something else entirely so there's a weird quad quad radeon 9700 card from like a flight sim from like 20 years ago that i just bought on ebay um and i thought like maybe he's talking about that or something i was like how do you know about that i didn't post about that i'm just assuming he meant samsung the orca says because of my work construction many sites haven't

seen my kids for seven weeks lame uh we watched the show together virtually highlight of the week can you say hi to nate and brie no i'm afraid i can't do that no i'm not gonna do it sorry who i'm not gonna say it hi nate hi brie it would mean a lot to them and me no problem no problem uh d bernfeld says i bought the stealth hoodie about a month ago love it other than the left-handed zipper not used to it sorry we did actually consider doing an other-handed version of it but it just didn't make sense to double our skew count for the like honestly like 0.2 percent of people that even notice it let alone comment on it i still don't even like fully get it no no i get it it's it's it's totally a thing and it's kind of like how i think for women and men like buttons go on opposite

sides and stuff it's just the kind of thing i never would in a thousand years notice i only know that because i watched the office yeah that's the only reason why i know that and i would have never noticed if someone swapped it on me andy xiong says take my money adblock user sends 15 bucks all right all right fair enough fair enough solved Fair enough. Victor Lou says, saw your recent HDR video. I have an HDR 400 monitor and this is often considered not worth it tech. Is it actually worth using and leaving on? Man, it depends on how the content's mastered. That's really something that I have found with HDR content is it can make a bigger difference how the content creator mastered it. Sometimes the HDR master will be crap

and the SDR one will be good and the other way around. All right, and that's it. Oh, Slushy says, is there a kickproof RTX 2080 Ti? I wish there was because we had that one that we dropped the other day.

But no, not to my knowledge all right thank you very much for tuning in guys it's been a great show enjoyed hanging out with y'all and we will see you again next week same bat time same bat channel rolling that intro that intro. That intro is rolling. Rolling intro. Rolling intro. I'm going to get rid of the music.

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