The WAN Show - We're Changing Our Name - WAN Show October 29, 2021

Episode Date: November 1, 2021

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Move to a new city. New name. New name for Facebook. Out of the country, honestly. That's right. That's right. Facebook is now meta. We're going to be talking about that naturally with all of our recent controversy.

We're going to be changing our name as well. So we're going to get you guys to weigh in on that. Let us know what you want to see. Lin yeah linus media group b mick linus media group face is one of the front runners right now in other news intel soft launched their alder lake cpus we're going to be talking about that i might talk a little bit about my attempt at getting my hands on an engineering sample so that I could publish data about it early. My failed attempt. So I can get into some of the technical issues

that I ran into around that. What else we got this week? The N64 collection on the Switch is disappointing. Is that really news though? What else do we have in here?

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All right. Why don't we jump right into our first topic of the day? Oh, we didn't even mention what's going to be another one of our major topics this week. We got to talk about Linux Challenge. We didn't touch on it at all last week. So obviously, we're not going to spoil everything for you guys. but Luke and I were both shooting our parts of part three. I haven't seen what Luke ended up doing, but you know what?

We'll get into it later. First, we got to talk about Facebook being in turmoil with whistleblower leaks and a new name. So they've topped headlines this week and actually quite a bit. Man, they've been in this week and actually yeah quite quite quite a bit man they've been in the news a lot lately they have and yeah i'll get into it in a second but that's really funny is the last the last couple of weeks being in person has made it so much easier to both not do that yeah to not do that and it's like we're it's like we're back in our in our houses

again um dealing with stream delays okay so the facebook papers okay released by whistleblower francis hagen hagen drilled the company's business practices in front of congress for creating a structure of incentivization on growth while harvesting resources away from important safety programs. Revelations from the documents have intensified concerns about Facebook's influence, particularly on children's and teens' mental health.

I mean, man, my mind is blown right now. Facebook is not good for the mental health of kids because my kids, that's the first thing I did. I got them Facebook. Got them on Facebook.

I got them on that Facebook. Get them on Twitter. Make sure they're on that Facebook. Get them on Twitter. Make sure they're on that Facebook. Get them on Instagram. How else are they going to talk to their boomer relatives? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's what Facebook's good for, right?

That's mostly what I use it for. That is 100% of what I use it for. Yeah. Yeah, that's the thing. Anyway, revelations. As Haugen was testifying, Facebook's representatives tweeted and emailed talking points rebutting Hagen's testimony. One of their main points, Hagen didn't work on many of the issues, including teenagers and child safety, that were covered in the documents that she downloaded. Well, then.

documents that she downloaded well then well then the fact that you didn't work on these documents means that you couldn't possibly be qualified in any way to speak about them you know yeah so fine cool in other news facebook has decided to rebrand their corporate entity to meta like as in metaverse you know what i noticed too you you mentioned uh that the people use facebook to keep in contact with their elderly relatives right yes you notice how it's an infinity logo that's just kind of droopy like like a saggy a saggy infinity infinity logo yeah yeah i mean i guess that's uh oh man what is there to really what is there to really say about this in my opinion it's how lame they they focused on like they they tried to meme it i don't know if you picked up on this but they 100 tried to meme it their their their twitter right now is

horrible if you if you go to twitter.com slash meta because it's not facebook anymore um if you scroll down a little bit they just like are tagging other random people wonder what ordering groceries in the metaverse will look like at heb hey balenciaga what's the dress code in the metaverse they're being like please please interact with us we need more people to see this please it's just horrible it's so bad they even like retweet not even retweeted they made their own tweet about the fact that he had barbecue sauce on his shelf which was like the most obvious planted bs ever like it's just stupid no that wasn't accidentally left there get over it like this is the the worst meme generation ever i i actually cringed so hard at this stupid barbecue sauce thing because a few people tweeted out about it be like oh i found it there was barbecue sauce

on the shelf it's like no that was there on purpose guys it was horrible it's terrible don't fall for it okay okay silence brand oh damn it i was gonna do it i was gonna be like no no i think i'm actually up on the zoomer lingo for this yeah it's trash i it just oh my goodness this is terrible zuckerberg okay about the change okay so the new name reflects the company's push to build an avatar filled virtual world known as the metaverse as it battles its deepening public relations crisis. Zuckerberg stated together we can finally put people at the center of our technology. Wait, what? Together we can finally put people at the center of our technology.

What the hell was Facebook ever before? It was a social media platform. Advertisements were at the center of that technology. Okay, that's fair. That's 100% fair. Okay, and together, we can unlock a massively bigger creator economy. Yeah, because people first means that an embodied identity stays with you across apps so that ads can target you even better. Wait, that's advertising first.

That's still the same thing, Luke. Darn it. We came full circle. We were so close. We did it again. We did. Now we're going to have to rebrand. How about taco?

We're going to make food now. We're done with this. Oh, my God. Okay, so they also announced a new VR headset dubbed Project Cambria. Which I find oddly similar to Cambridge Analytics. The second I read Cambria, I was like, you could have thought of a name that was a little further away from one of your current controversies.

Yeah, I mean, that's not really a current controversy. Isn't it still going on? They've had so many hot, spicy, sexy new controversies that I think that one barely even registers anymore at this point. That's the thing about the news cycle right is it just we're we're going boys we just okay what's new what's new what's the worst thing that happened today yeah never mind yesterday yeah so but yeah new headset uh by the way oculus is gone not a thing anymore uh so while the new headset is dubbed project cambria oculus headsets are no longer called oculus heads gone not a thing anymore uh so while the new headset is dubbed project cambria oculus

headsets are no longer called oculus headsets they're meta no this is brilliant because now people like you can never be like um oculus has broken every promise they ever made after the facebook acquisition because now that would be nonsense you'd be saying this company what are you talking about what company you broke every promise they made after the acquisition by this other company they've only existed for what company are you even talking about yeah that company is not a thing and that company you're claiming acquired them is also not a thing so i have no idea what you're talking about. It's all just meta now. Okay, come on. So now what we're going to have to say is that the company formerly known as Oculus broke every promise that was made after the acquisition by the company formerly known as Facebook.

Nice. Oh, man. So discussion question. Okay, this is from Colin who put this topic in the doc for us. Thank you, Colin. The discussion question. Okay, this is from Colin, who put this topic in the doc for us. Thank you, Colin. The heat is turning up on the social media megacorp. Is more regulation an absolute fact at this point,

or will the status quo remain? There's a lot of money behind it. There's a huge amount of money behind it and money can often dictate what happens so i don't know i think the status quo is going to kind of just keep marching on francis hoggins says breaking up facebook isn't the answer. Fixing the algorithms is. Maybe a little column A, column B. The problem is that algorithms are inherently sort of a trade secret for these companies. You know, as a creator on YouTube, which is, you know, owned by Alphabet. Ha ha.

See, if we're all going to pretend that these companies are a different thing, let's use all of their pretend names. Yeah. So we've got Meta use all of their pretend names. Yeah. So, so we've got, we've got meta and we've got alphabet. Okay.

So, so if we're going to, as a, as a creator on YouTube, I kind of see this from both sides. On the one hand, I understand that the, the opacity,

opacity. Wow. That's a word I don't say out loud a lot. Whatever. The, the, the opaqueness, the lack of opacity. The opaqueness of these algorithms creates a lot of distrust among users, among government regulators, among competitors who are also beholden to these platforms.

It creates this incredible power imbalance. Even partners, partners like me who are kind of going, okay, well, I sure hope the algorithm treats me well today. Yeah, kind of important. And I can spend a lot of my time trying to understand it and I can increase the odds of my business being successful by understanding it, how it works, how to make it work to my advantage. And that creates a lot of stress and a lot of uncertainty, though, because I can never absolutely know how it works because, and this is sort of the other side of this coin,

in order to build the most effective possible algorithm in the machine learning AI age, in the machine learning AI age, even the developers can't necessarily know exactly how it works. That is just the way that it is. The way that it works with machine learning is you basically say, okay, here's the desired outcome. Whether it's,

I want the highest possible watch time or whether it's because I want the highest possible engagement. And unless it's because i want the highest possible engagement and unless you put an importance on other things it will cleave those things out of the way in order to get as much possible of the desired outcome exactly and sometimes that can end up breaking things so the developers will go in and they'll go they'll tune it they'll go oh okay we we swung a little bit far this way let's let kind of tune it back this way. But the bottom line is that even the developers of these algorithms don't 100% know exactly how they work. That's just the nature of the beast. And if we forced them to open up

their algorithms and how they work, we could create a situation where a significant investment has been made into this technology that is now effectively just put out there in the open. And I could see a lot of open source advocates, for example, being very in support of that. But the point I'm trying to make is that I see it both ways. These are non-trivial, these are non-trivial tools to develop. Um, and as a company, I think you expect some kind of return on your investment, right? Yeah. So I don't, I don't have the solution that's for certain. Yeah. It sure isn't changing your name. Um, I don don't i don't think anyone's going to stop

calling facebook facebook yeah maybe you know analysts writing seeking alpha articles or whatever you know where they they're advising people of you know a stock to invest in or whatever they're going to want to make sure they use the the correct legal name of the company or whatever but i don't think that your your mom or your grandma or whatever is going to stop calling the company that owns facebook facebook speaking of which we've mentioned a few times that the audience for facebook is is much older than the audience for a lot of other social media platforms i wonder how they're going to react to the icon on their phone looking different and being called something else randomly i'm gonna

go ahead and i'm gonna say they probably won't notice or care for the most part because it's just gonna be notification based yeah i think it's just gonna be like i mean i maybe i'm over maybe i'm or maybe i'm under thinking this but you know from my point of view you have enough muscle memory for where an app is installed on your phone or whatever else you just i there and it's not like they're not going to do a really gradual shift in the branding like they've changed their they've changed their their logo before they changed the font of the f or whatever and i'm pretty sure they've changed the the logo design for things like facebook messenger in the past so i i don't foresee that being a problem i. I think it's just going to be that people will kind of go, oh, for some reason, Facebook, their logo's an M now.

Oh, apparently someone in the chat is saying Facebook isn't getting renamed. No, the app itself is still going to be Facebook. But what I'm expecting over time is that they might want to have some of the parent company branding in there. Kind of like how when you open up WhatsApp, it's like WhatsApp by Facebook.

So we're probably going to see WhatsApp by by by meta so at the very most we might see some kind of logo or branding redesign but it's not going to be anything that's going to make it difficult for people to find the app on their phone i find it interesting because because alphabet yeah did this whole launch announcing their their new company their name and stuff and then after that it was kind of like uh whatever like they they didn't really push it on any of their other products or anything right it's just like oh yeah the parent company's alphabet yeah sure whatever um this one doesn't seem to really be that way they're renaming o headsets. They're pushing the brand name really hard. So how much of this is, like, can I just go tinfoil hat for a little bit here on you? Yeah, let's go.

Can I go a little bit tinfoil hat? Okay. So how much of this is this sort of mega rich individual that absolutely has sort of zero connection to how most people are living their lives, sort of deciding that what's probably best for us... Let's put barbecue sauce on a shelf. Since we're never going to rise above the station that we're in in our life anyway, that what we should probably aspire to

is spending the vast majority of our time in sort of virtual reality, interacting with people virtually, because, you know, virtual tourism and virtual skydiving is all that's going to be left for us by the time this this sort of mega ultra rich individual and his ilk have hoovered up all of the wealth that exists in the world and we better get used to it and you know this is sort of this this move to start getting us acclimated he's like weird like i'm this yeah does it not feel like super villainy these weird like awkward tweets of him asking like how are you going to order groceries in the metaverse they're like they're like threats they're not questions you know you see what i'm saying

maybe i'll go to the grocery store you'll do what we tell you you're gonna do i don't know it really run the metaverse it really does it really feels kind of super villainy to me i mean he's a he's a super villain so it makes sense all right well that's all i have to say about that why don't we why don't we chat about the older lake soft launch here intel took the wraps off their 12th generation core lineup codenamed alder lake they are claiming a 19 increase in ipc over 11th gen built on the intel 7 formerly known as 10 nanometer enhanced super fin process no avx 512 turns out people didn't care uh in on the mainstream uh platforms and it took up too much die space but we are getting pci express gen 5 that's right luke gen 5 ddr 5 128 gigs max memory capacity uh dedicated b clock support i don't know what dedicated b clock

support means but um maybe that's just a typo in my in my notes here one of the biggest things is new power definitions so i want to i want to be careful about applauding this because it's the kind of thing that should have been done ages ago um but intel is finally disclosing multiple power limits for their CPUs. So what was TDP, PL1, is now processor base power. Okay, so that's the power the CPU is able to access at any given moment. And what was PL2 is now maximum turbo power or MTP, defined as the maximum power the CPU can access during boost. defined as the maximum power the CPU can access during boost.

And in the past, for especially the last generation, Intel was releasing these CPUs with 100 plus watt TDPs that were regularly sucking back 200 watts or more. So I want to applaud the greater transparency, but you see how quiet the applause is? Because this should have never been a problem in the first place still technically audible thanks guys but and i mean i mean not that much it's not just intel like overall whether we're talking about you know apple with their intentionally vague performance graphs or intel with the things intel does there seems to be this trend towards de-technicalifying consumer-facing

information that you publish. Like it used to be not that long ago that Intel would publish a complete matrix of all the different core counts and all the different boost clocks that the CPU could reach. And they just published it. And so you didn't have to guess, oh, if I have like a two core, a game that, you know, utilizes predominantly two cores, what kind of performance will I see in that? What kind of clock speed will I see in that compared to if I have one that's going to manage to hit four or one that's limited to just one? They used to just publish it and then they just stopped. inch to hit four or one that's limited to just one. They used to just publish it and then they just stopped. And I remember complaining about it at the time. And then I guess I just got sort of

slow boiled over here because I sort of forgot about it. And now that they're sort of giving me back an inch, I want a mile. I want all the proper specs back. Tell me everything. Stop hiding. Intel's performance testing claims that the new cpus are at worst equal to and at best up to 30 faster than amd's ryzen 5000 series however speaking of intel um put it publishing consumer facing data that is questionable intel's testing used windows 11 pro and took place before the fixes for Windows 11 scheduler bugs that caused high level 3 cache latency on Ryzen. So how it actually performs is still unknown. Although what we do know is that it consistently beats 11th gen by at least that much. So it should

be competitive based on what we know about how 12th gen compares to 11th gen and how 11th gen compares to Ryzen. But obviously when we do our review, we're going to be laser focused on 12th gen compares to 11th gen and how 11th gen compares to Ryzen. But obviously, when we do our review, we're going to be laser focused on 12th gen versus Ryzen 5000 because that's what you guys want to know. Now, I don't know why Anthony put this in here, but I'm going to share it with you guys. Here are some facts about Alder Lake. Alder Lake is an artificial lake in Washington state created by the construction of the Alder Dam in 1944. Alders are trees comprising the genus Alnus in the birch family Betulici. Alder is a hardwood that is useful for furniture and other structural use. The catkins can be edible.

A catkin is found mainly on male plants and is a cluster of petal-less flowers on a stem used for pollination alderwood is sometimes used for smoking fish coffee and other foods and alder bark contains an anti-inflammatory and has been used by indigenous peoples to treat poison oak and other rashes for many many years nice electric guitars have been made from alder since the 1950s thanks to the tonal qualities the wood possesses. Our discussion question is, will AMD's V-Cache be enough? Or will AMD need to pull off some kind of different magic trick to stay ahead? Oh, man.

I don't know. AMD has made some pretty bold claims about the kinds of performance increases that we can expect from V-Cache. But really, to me, the main discussion point for all of this is, are we back to Intel and AMD leapfrogging each other on a yearly or every other yearly basis? And is Intel finally going to be making the same kinds of investments that AMD has been making over the last few years to really drive performance forward rather than just being content to sit back on their laurels are you excited yeah no this is really good okay it's really good i think this is like stage two of the of the like resurgence of

the cpu wars because they were they were dead for a long time and then amd came out of nowhere and stole the crown. And then Intel just kind of sat around. And now they're both fighting. And that's good. How would you respond to the people who inevitably are going to tweet at you upset about how much faster the new generation of CPUs is and how worthless their last generation CPU is when they turn around and try and sell it on the secondhand market.

They're lame. I don't care. They're lame. What do you mean? Rude. What do you mean? Rude. Things should get faster.

You can't just sit there and be salty about your thing not being as fast as the new thing. You should want progress, right? Yeah, but there's a whole generation of PC enthusiasts that thought that when you buy a 3770K... You get to keep it for 10 years. It basically holds its value for the better part of a decade. I know people now that are playing modern games now on 3770 and 4790Ks.

Yeah. They're fine. They are still fine and honestly this new one even though there's the big jump your previous one's gonna be fine dude like it's just a thing you're gonna be all right and don't stifle innovation controversial take better stuff controversial take with so much of our gaming performance limited by the g, especially as 4K displays have become... I mean, 1440p got affordable first. Nowadays, 1440p is like,

you can find that on Craigslist for next to nothing. You want a 1440p display. It's a great resolution. Personal favorite resolution. Okay, if I had to have a personal favorite resolution. Okay, but 4K displays even are quite affordable now. And given how much of our performance bottleneck has actually been shifted to the GPU because we're trying to push so many pixels, do we need faster CPUs for gaming right now? Might as well take them.

You got to take them, dude. Okay. I mean, yeah, obviously it's better than a kick in the teeth, but that's what i asked do we even need them i think not really for most use cases i'm sure there's some game out there someone's going to be able to find a game that like is really cpu bound sure like an esports title that's kind of capped around 250 fps we've got 300 crank even higher we've got 360 hertz monitors out there now you want to like really keep your frame times as low as possible etc etc so there's going to be use cases out there where like yes it's beneficial i think the average user is not going to see a huge benefit between like this gen and previous gen

but i still wouldn't say that that's a reason to not care about the benefit we we got we got to crank this hardware because like i think the people making the games be less scared to pump more things into it that could hamper performance if the performance of the computers are super cranked. I mean, we all know that the performance of modern generation computers is not really the issue. It's all about how fast

the modern generation of consoles is. But the better the tech gets on the desktop side, the next time a new console comes out, there's a higher chance that it's going to be better off. That's true. You should always want for more. That's how consumerism works.

Speaking of which, there's this really cool banner that comes up here every once in a while all right talk about your banner yes okay we made this cool new thing uh you've probably if you've watched the land show to the end before you've seen us do super chats um no more super chats yeah don't send super chats anymore for real though please don't send super chats i know it's been a meme for a while but now it's like actually a thing because we have this thing that's going to show up at some point. Not right now.

Don't worry about it. That is a opt-in thing that happens when we are live streaming. It could happen during the WAN show. It could happen during a Linus game stream. It could happen during something else. PC build or whatever. If you don't want it on something,

you're going to have to let us know. Hey. Yeah. I'll just have it on all the time i think yeah um and and it it as an opt-in if you decide to when you're doing your contact info on the checkout you can have your your purchase show up on the stream and uh along with that you can send hey there we go along with that you can send a message and at the end of the show, we'll read the messages just like Super Chats. Yeah. I don't know if I can promise that we'll read all of them just like Super Chats because there's already so many in the show even before we announced the new feature, but we will try. We will try. Really, the motivation behind this is to be clear, not to make more money. money in fact our margins on LTT store purchases

are actually lower percentage wise than our margins on super chats the idea is just that if you are going to spend money in hopes that I might read your message on stream you might as well at least get something for your trouble if I don't read it. There you go. So this is just a way smarter way for you guys to contribute to the show because instead of just giving Google money for no reason that they frankly don't need, you can give, you know, our t-shirt printer and our warehouse guys over in Richmond there, you can, you can give them something to do, give them, give them some money to make. You know what I mean? Keep, keep the machine, keep the machine rolling here rather than keeping the machine rolling at Google where I think they're, they're rolling pretty good.

I think they're rolling pretty good. Yeah, exactly. So Pierce Bielenberg says, it's a bad idea. No, it's actually a genius idea. And it wouldn't surprise me if we have other creators reaching out to Floatplane being like, I need this. This is the best thing ever. Very, very shortly.

Yeah. And we're going to keep trying to make it better. We've already had some feedback um about about a few various things we're going to implement those um yeah yeah it's cool uh mika misaki says if you had cad prices for your local peeps i would buy merch we do we do the canadian price is the price on the website times the exchange rate to CAD. That's the Canadian price. Well, look, the issue is that our costs are in US dollars. So if our prices were in Canadian dollars,

we would just be coming in every morning and moving them around based on how the exchange rate floats because we need to keep our margins consistent. So that's why the pricing is all in US dollars. All right, let's jump into our next topic which i think has to be linux challenge okay nice yeah how was your week um my kids are mad at me wait why because i bought them i actually bought four copies of minecraft dungeons about two weeks before we started the linux challenge i i bought i bought four copies of Minecraft Dungeons about two weeks before we started the Linux challenge. I bought

four copies of Minecraft Dungeons and I have refused to play Minecraft Dungeons with them for now the last three weeks because, and this is really funny, the Minecraft launcher exists on Linux. There's actually a first party version of the minecraft launcher that is linux native freaking ready to rock okay you want to play some minecraft play some freaking minecraft play some minecraft on that linux boys okay you want to play minecraft dungeon oh oh oh you yeah can't help you with that better go we better you better head to Lutris you better head over to Lutris and you better find some super out-of-date guides that do not work at all and then when you're done with those super out-of-date guides that don't work at

all you better find some really great comments that are all like hey yeah Minecraft Dungeons is on Steam now so you can just you can just play it through steam with proton isn't that fantastic no it's not fantastic i already paid for it i paid for it in the microsoft freaking stupid launcher and unfortunately you can't just port your key over so there's no way to play it through Steam. I have to play it through the Microsoft launcher and it won't let me install it. And Loot Dress won't work. So my kids are mad at me.

They're like, why is your computer still broken? Like, look, okay. This is complicated. It's complicated. Look, look, Junior. It's not broken. It's just not working. Yeah.

If that makes any sense. So that's been that's been a source of frustration in my household over the last few weeks um i mean my kids were delighted when i did get minecraft working and i and i and i did get discord working and they were able to i mean my daughter was playing on linux and had no. She's officially a card-carrying Linux gamer now at however many years old she is. Nice. And I think that's really cool.

So when I talk about my frustrations, I also want to highlight how amazing and how cool it is that this is a thing at all. Because even five years ago, Linux gaming was like, if you want to basically compile the game yourself it's come very far that's one of the really big things that i've learned in this challenge is that is that gaming on linux has come extremely far in the last little while i've had some i've had

some wins and i've had some losses over the last little bit um there's been a few games that i i just dove into expecting probably not to work and they did there's also been a single game that i dove into completely expecting to work and it didn't um so i don't know i was i was blown away by how easy it was to get ano 1800 going ano 1800 was a lot of you play stuff has actually been all right which is really interesting you know what I want to be careful of though okay I just said something that I want to be I want to be I want to tweak a little bit I was blown away by how easy it is now that I have three weeks of daily driving this thing under my belt. Because it is still everything that is going to be said. Okay. So the part one is already out on float plane.

Part two is going to be coming out probably next week on float plane. Part three is going to be probably a week after that. And all of the things that I've already recorded in those previous parts where I say, look, this is not easy. It's all still true but it's also true that once you orient yourself and once you have some idea of like what are the buttons you can push what are the levers you can pull the troubleshooting process is worse than Windows, but manageable.

Yeah. If you're pretty techie. Yeah. Definitely worse than troubleshooting on Windows. But a big part of that is just documentation. I think one of the biggest challenges for me in part three was how hard it was to find, because you're asking for so many stars to align. You're asking for someone else

to have familiarity with the program that you want to use. You're asking for them to be using the same distro and in some cases, even the same desktop environment that can make a difference. And okay, you're asking for them to want to help you. And finally, you're asking for them

to have had all of those other stars align recently that's the biggest one for me i found a lot of guides that are from like two years ago and you try to implement it and it's just like wow dependencies are all over the place things are missing i in a lot of in a lot of cases i've been able to piece those guides together i've been able to see the steps that they took yeah and while i can't put my foot in the exact like pattern that they did yeah i can go down that same path and and kind of figure it out find the same things and hack something together um but yeah i don't know i i didn't expect the crew to work the crew i specifically went to go play the crew yeah because i didn't think it was going to work and it worked and it worked like effortlessly or absolutely effortless wow i had i

had uh you play connect ubisoft connect whatever stupid renames i had that working so i was just in the launch and i was like oh it's just kind of scrolling through games and i got the crew for free like years ago for sure yeah so i think i was like an nvidia game or something like that like a giveaway game or something yeah so i was like oh sure whatever and i just installed it launched it immediately perfectly worked sound was working everything was working it was great um but then grid 2 didn't work grid 2 is a steam game but it's it's something i don't know if it's denuvo or what i think it's games for windows live okay yikes yeah it's it's some drm thing you sure i don't remember what it was i think grid 2 has problems like on windows i wouldn't even be

surprised don't quote me on that don't please don't quote me on that i googled it for like a second it came up that there it was it was a drm style problem and i was just like you know what whatever i don't need to play it right now um what else has been going on i there's there's one thing that my my girlfriend controlled me with super hard at will um which is i don't have a media center pc my computer is really close to the tv so it's really not required i have a not even that long hdmi cable that just runs from my computer to the tv yeah and whenever we want to watch something or do whatever that requires my computer we just switch to that input everything's fine i have the tv tv set to disabled in my display manager yeah so that my mouse doesn't try to go over there sure when i'm not using it um even though it's disabled if she turns

the tv on while i'm using the computer full lock up full hard lockup oh no for for i'd say anywhere between one to like three three and a half seconds and of course because this is just how everything works it'll always happen at the worst possible time can i just say that my experience with linux desktop has not jived with a lot of what people have told me and with my own experience with Linux on server Linux on servers and the the whole you don't have to restart it it's crazy stable whatever it is that you're talking about that has not been my experience in no particular order i have experienced um the system refusing to reset correctly i have experienced the display refusing to go to sleep yep i i have experienced

um failing to wake from sleep uh actually it's wakes from sleep every time for me okay but so i've been i've been pretty good 50 50 i've been pretty good on that so far and uh what was one of the other really oh not being able to force close apps that one's yeah that one was very surprising to me that you had that problem i just i am just having and this was a really weird one unfortunately it was one of those things that is impossible for me to have documented because what happened was i rebooted the system and i went to sign in and it said your credentials are wrong. And this was quite early on. And I was like, there's no way my credentials are wrong. This is a password that I have typed in a lot of times because it's just a phrase that

I've typed a lot of times. There's no way, but I'll try again. Didn't get it. Try again. Didn't get it. I was like, did I do that thing again where I typo my password twice when I'm creating it? In the same way? I've done it before. Yeah. It's terrible. Terrible. I had to reformat a Windows server install that I set up, got everything exactly the way I wanted, and then rebooted and was promptly not able to get back into it.

Anyway, I was like, did I do that again? So I was like not able to get back into it anyway i was like did i did did i do that again so i was like i hunt and pecked it i was like no no no no no no no and i went to it wouldn't let me sign in i was like okay i must have done that again so i rebooted it just to see typed in my password logged in i've never i've never seen and i swear to you so i couldn't record this because a it involved reboots and b i'm not going to record myself using a password that i like use for my computer a bit of a weird one that's just really stupid i'm not going to do that yeah um and so i i can't prove it to you but i I swear to you, on my mother's grave, it happened. She's not dead, and she probably won't have a grave.

She's more into cremation, but that's not the point. The point is, I swear to you, it happened. And to be clear, it's not like Windows doesn't have its own bad behavior. I had a problem with my NVIDIA drivers. Ha ha, they got that in common. I had a problem with my NVIDIA drivers for a long time where my display wouldn't go to sleep. I finally solved it. It ended up being like a bunch of Googling.

I had to go in the command line. I had to go search for what process prevented the machine from going to sleep last, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It was a whole thing. Anyway, managed to figure that out. And even in part one of the Linux challenge, I showed this bizarre thing that my computer was doing where it was like the up arrow was locked on.

So I would press the start menu and it wouldn't even let me restart it. It would just go da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Yeah, it's like whipping up. Windows, yeah, has all kinds of problems. The Windows search barely works. Windows has had issues with sleep and wake for forever. The Windows search barely works.

Windows has had issues with sleep and wake for forever. But before you sanctimoniously declare that Linux is so, so, so much better, maybe just kind of do a little reflection and maybe see if you're just more used to it. Because as a user of both now hey yeah they're both bad both have flaws they both definitely have flaws there's things that could be absolutely way better something that didn't make it into into the video that i shot today and this would have been the most appropriate spot for it maybe i'll put it in part five that's more of like a summary is the way that fonts fonts and text size is all over the place in my desktop environment oh not mine yeah it's just it's it's i'm not the kind of person who's all like oh the lines on these this new iconography blah blah blah like i don't really care about that kind of stuff but having fonts just like markedly different from one window to the next is pretty distracting for me yeah that makes sense yeah it's pretty annoying i though have not had the

same issues that you've had with smoothness the actual the actual kde desktop environment like interacting with things has been great save for dolphin can i just say if you're a Dolphin developer, you are not going to like part three. Dolphin is a piece of garbage. I'm sorry. This is going to be, yeah, it's going to be really interesting. Yeah, I switched over to, I forget what it's called.

I think it's the Ubuntu default one. It's called two different things. It's called files, but then it's also called something else. It has like another name, file manager linux i'll double check i'll figure out what the name is maybe dolphin just isn't for you nautilus nautilus oh man yeah not nautilus has been has been at least better from a functionality

standpoint but there's all kinds of like little weird stupid things that are not cohesive, even when it's working really well. So for example, I opened up a zipped file, or a zipped folder rather, excuse me, is, I guess a zip would be a file that contains a folder. The point is, I opened up a zip, all right, and that opened up in whatever my default opened up in whatever my default file decompression application was. And in Windows or in macOS, you would be able to take one of those files, if all you needed was one of them, and you'd be able to drag it over into your file manager. So Finder or Windows Explorer, whatever the case may be, you'd be able to drag it over there and it would just extract that file and it would copy it there. Well, no, not in KDE on manjaro at least maybe other distributions handle this better but no instead you actually need to like a caveman click extract

and find the target and extract it to there that way because you've just done it through command line bro no if i want look that's something that comes up a lot we've done a couple of streams uh luke and i together have done a couple of streams just troubleshooting things we did one last night actually when we were trying to get this uh we were trying to test this feature and also try and get uh obs updated with a plugin which was boy was that a journey and also we got ano 1800 working so those were those were our missions last night that ended up taking a total of about two and a half hours i think um it took it took a little bit so we we've done some to be fair to be fair we we kind of sat there with you like afk and ano just talking to the stream for quite a while yeah

that's true the actual the actual diagnosing portion still I think was like an hour long. No, it was more. Okay. Yeah, it was more. Because we didn't even start streaming at the beginning of that. Right. Yeah, we were at it for quite a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So the point is we've done a couple of these streams sort of going through some of the challenges that we've faced live. And there's a lot of comments that come up a lot. And one of the really popular ones is just use the command line. And I can get things done in a command line. You know, I'll create a Windows storage space stupid array thing in PowerShell. Or, you know, as long as I have kind of some instructions to follow. I'm not familiar with a lot of the syntax for Linux, but you got to remember, I've been using computers since the Windows 3.1 days. Like if I, if I have to go in and cd dot dot whatever,

I know, I know the syntax for Windows, so I can find my way around a Windows command line, but I don't know the syntax for Linux. So a lot of the time I'll end up fudging my way through it to a far greater extent, but it's not like I'm completely incapable of using it. It's not like I don't understand the power of it. It can be outstanding. But what the people saying that have to understand is that you are completely off base. The average user, like the average user is not, as soon as they see that, they're going to be like, what was this?

I thought this was a computer. I thought this was a computer and i thought this was i thought this was finished one of the benefits i think there's some drawbacks but one of the benefits of having a bunch of different distros and desktop environments and stuff means that there can there can be like no gui no desktop environment command line only really like sick like infrastructure server setups that you have, whatever, stuff like that. It's like insane uptime and whatever else. There can also be GUI experiences that are much more advanced for very advanced users

that maybe work in the infrastructure space. And then when they want to come home, they want to be using the same type of operating system. It's very cohesive for them. Flying through the command line is second nature yeah it's it's basically like walking there's all that kind of stuff but if we're trying to accomplish this goal that has been touted for quite a while now of like it's it's the year of desktop linux everybody's gonna be using linux it's gonna it's we're gonna have massive penetration on the market but

you're not gonna get the whole world to use command line it's just not going to happen no and there are certain tasks like copying a file from one folder to another that like maybe you're mr fast fingers and you can get that done real quick in command line but it's also really really quick especially if you know certain shortcuts and like middle mouse clicks and stuff like that. To drag and drop. Yeah. It's objectively faster. I will 1v1 you.

I will 1v1 you. I will 1v1 you copying some files from one folder to another. Rust, okay? Like I just, I get it. It's great for for lots of things but some of the things that it's great for it doesn't need to be great for one of my issues with dolphin is that it doesn't allow you to um copy files into a folder that requires administrative privileges and not just you have to open uh open dolphin as administrator or you have to open Dolphin as administrator,

or you have to go into that folder's permissions and edit them. It does not allow it. And one of the responses on the, I believe it was on the Manjaro forum. You know, I don't want to say the wrong thing. So I'm just not going to say where it was. It was on some forum. But one of the responses from the community was, well, you shouldn't want to do that.

And I was like, but I do. Because I need to copy. Actually, it came up a couple of times already in the first just few weeks of daily driving Linux. Once when I wanted to install a specific version of Java so that I could get the game client for Forged Alliance forever working. And once when I wanted to copy that OBS plugin

into the OBS plugins folder. So it's come up. I do want to do that. Now I need a way to do that. And the answer was, well, you shouldn't want to do that. Use the command line. If you're a power user enough,

you should be able to use the command line. No, if I'm a power user enough to copy a plugin into a folder, that doesn't mean I need to use the command line. No, if I'm a power user enough to copy a plugin into a folder, that doesn't mean I need to use the command line. I should just be power user enough to go and tick a box, get administrator privileges and copy the thing. On the other hand,

I really like how Mint does it. I just right click in the folder that I need better permissions on. Yeah. That I need temporarily better permissions on. I just open as root. And then there's this like red banner at the top that is like,

you have this folder currently open as root. And I can that in nautilus yeah yeah that's sweet i actually really like that one of the worst gatekeepy things that we ran into during one of our community streams was someone critiquing us for trying to get forged alliance working yeah like well who even plays that game anyway yeah we do we do that's why would they choose that random game because we play it we don't choose games based on what runs on the platform yeah that is the definition of ass backwards you choose games based on games you want to play ass backwards you choose games based on games you want to play and then you go with the platform that supports those games that is how if you need evidence because you don't believe me that that is how the world works look no further than nintendo does nintendo make a single piece of hardware

that could stand alone as a piece of hardware no okay then it's almost like people choose platforms based on content switch is kind of interesting it's kind of interesting yeah but it also has like at this point what a six seven year old like mediocre arm based processor in it like it's for the price i think that if also yeah also i want to add that there is a guide for that game that we play there is a guide that says like this is how you get it working on linux yeah so like when when we dove into it we there was some amount of expectation that we would be able to get there, you know? And to be fair, I got really close. I was able to get the launcher open and there's one bug remaining that there are some kind of antiquated, but like I was talking about before, I can probably figure it out

steps to troubleshoot. I think I might actually be able to get it working. I think it is possible, but it is a journey because that whole guide which is pretty long none of it works you have to change everything but again it's like it's it's a bit of an interesting experience but it's not that interesting experience when you're getting berated by the community um but yeah it was it was uh it's cool i want to get it i want to get it working so my my bottom line on this my take and you can hate me for it is that the linux community needs to stop relying on the command line as a crutch for creating user experiences that are actually usable yeah they can't just say

well uh the gui doesn't need to do this because it can just be done in the command line because until that attitude changes i'm never going to be able to get my brother-in-law using linux again though until that attitude changes in the noob friendly distros because i don't think like the linux community needs to change as a whole i don't think we need to like noobify the the like elite user arch is going to be arch yeah and that's great fine yeah yeah but there's a lot of noob friendly distros that i think could learn a lot from and and this is honestly and this was something i was also going to sort of discuss in part five maybe but we'll see maybe i'll leave it out maybe i'll just talk to you guys about it now. One of the other sort of problems that I see is that this kind of UX research that a company like Microsoft or a

company like Apple spends significant amounts of time and significant amounts of money on, whatever the end result they end up with might be, they at least apparently do the research. One of the things they spend so much time on is having people who are not familiar with the product come in and use it and provide feedback. They watch them. They watch them use it. And I mean, that's one of the things that Windows is always sending telemetry data about is how people are interacting with the software. Do they actually use this button? Can they not find it? Things like that, right? And that's something that Linux, I don't see outside of a mega corporation like Valve coming in and doing this. That's something that I don't see a way for Linux as a community to fix. Because one of the things about

the Linux community is it's the Linux community, not the broader internet or computer using or just existing on this planet community and unless you have money like actual resources to throw at it how are you going to coordinate those kinds of of of like focus groups right like if i'm if i'm supposed to be what's the one that claims to be the most windows like it's not mint is it no uh mint is quite windows like um but I don't think so I think there's one that's like basically Zorin yeah Zorin's the one how often even if they've done it how often can Zorin really afford to get to round up a bunch of windows users off Craigslist or whatever, put them in a room in front of a Zorin OS desktop environment and watch them.

Watch them try to interact with it. It's not reasonable for a project that is largely contributed to by people who are donating their time. Yeah. AJ, that is the worst take ever i feel like you get a way better experience with linux if you start using it without a gui then everything makes way more sense we started out from the start we're like hey we're gamers You can't game without a GUI. Okay, text adventure games. Okay, text adventure games are real people too.

You can load games using a command line. Got them! Also, I think AJ might be coming from an infrastructure developer education standpoint. And if you are trying to learn Linux, honestly, if there's someone in the audience that is wanting to get into an IT career, something like infrastructure, developer, educational standpoint. And if you are trying to learn Linux, like honestly, if there's someone in the audience that is like wanting to get into an IT career, something like that,

and they need to learn the Linux distro and they want to jump into the flames, jumping into the flames without a GUI, yeah, honestly, that's probably a good idea. Because you're going to be forced to learn this stuff. You're going to get very used to the syntax, the usability of the command line. These are going to be ways that you're going to have forced to learn this stuff you're going to get very used to the syntax the usability of the command line these are going to be ways you're going to have to interact with these servers and you're going to have to interact with these different environments yeah so yeah you

might as well jump right into it i i this is the problem with like with with addressing these types of things because there's such a wide user if you want linux desktop you want average users you want gamers you want all that kind of stuff to be using linux things have to be a little bit more smooth and clean with the gooey things need to be a little bit more straightforward stuff like that because people are going to want to come home sit at their computer which they haven't been at all day because maybe they don't work in it or whatever else or i don't know um and jump into a game to play with their their, which they haven't been at all day because maybe they don't work in IT or whatever else, or I don't know, and jump into a game to play with their friends. Yeah.

They don't want to sit there for an hour troubleshooting some random thing, doing whatever else, learning command line, doing that kind of stuff. They want to play the game. I mean, the social aspect has honestly been the biggest impact that I didn't foresee. I knew that I was going to spend a bunch of time dicking around troubleshooting things. I knew that I was going to spend less time gaming than I otherwise would have but what i didn't anticipate was that my kids are going to be mad at me yeah and what i think you probably didn't anticipate was how much of your gaming social life revolves around trying the latest open beta or playing that's been something

and that's that's not a new thing i have always been super into playing and like people that knew me when i was 14 know this i i used to apply to be a beta tester for like every single mmo that ever came out i used like i i yeah i um yeah it's actually really sucked um and if i was better at using linux if i was more educated etc i might be able to this it might be an interesting experience to try to be one of those first people to kind of run into the wall and try to make these things work but at that point you're basically like you better be a contributor or something like that's a new hobby right there that's a whole new hobby and if i want that new hobby that's a very cool new hobby and someone else out there might want to do this and that's fantastic i don't do you want to play video games yeah yeah i want to play with my bros and there's like there's some stuff like i was

able to play one day of the battlefield 2042 beta because that was the one day before i installed linux and luckily it was a terrible beta. So I didn't really miss out on much. But there was still some FOMO there. I see my friends in Discord. I know they're playing it. I don't even care that it's a trashy game. Yeah, it doesn't matter.

Because sometimes a game being trash is part of just being part of the gaming community. And people being like, yeah, that game's trash. And you're being like, yeah, I know. I totally saw this crazy bug where their eyeballs popped out of their head. Yeah, and you just troll. And you're being like, yeah, I know. I totally saw this like crazy bug where their eyeballs popped out of their head. Yeah, and you just like troll around with your friends. Face clip through the wall.

Yeah, the medium is almost unimportant, right? So like it's, yeah, it's definitely part of it. You jump in Discord while people are playing the game and you get one of them to Discord stream for you so you can see what's happening. At least Discord works. That's sad. Yeah, you can watch someone else's Discord stream else you're not totally isolated from your gamer friends if you try to discord stream no one's

going to hear the audio because that's not a feature that's on linux hey got him oh i didn't know that yeah oh really i i had never tried to this is part of my script for the next part so i don't want to necessarily go way too into it right but every piece of communication software that i've used and you can probably guess what they are have some form of issue yeah screen sharing oh every single one of them yep okay some form of issue some of them are really like not a big deal and a lot of people aren't going to notice it right but some form of issue yeah that's really frustrating uh hey blinken says seriously guys move on this has been this okay moving on the package manager in mint yes is sweet it's actually really sweet like i i i'm really starting to like it a lot i'm actually coming around to panac as

well yeah microsoft store is trash okay microsoft store is better than panac but well okay i shouldn't say i shouldn't say better because one of the cool things about panac is that it can search other stores or repositories um including ones that are only sort of compatible with my distro so that's a double-edged sword right on the one hand it means that i can end up with applications that like only sort of work but on the other hand it means that the manjaro developers don't have to go hand validate every single package and i was able to get like for example that obs plugin the package that i used was i forget if it was snap or if it was a flat pack it was not it was not from the manjaro official

repository so it was something that I actually had to use pamac and override um or was it from aur I don't remember it doesn't matter the point is from something else it did work I am now happily functional which is all that I really asked yeah someone in chat said I've spoken to discord devs about the solutions to the linux screen sharing issues it's just that there's very little point fixing it because so few people on linux use discord compared to the amount of effort it would take to fix i mean honestly that's the biggest problem forever because like looking at okay lutris right so yeah anno 1800 okay so luke and i both ended up managing to install this game via different methods yeah which ended up resulting in us having different versions of the game installed which made it so that we couldn't play multiplayer and you might say well

how on earth could you possibly manage to do that? Well, okay, here's the thing. You've got three different ways to install it here. Okay, you've got all these comments. You also have get from Steam. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But here's the thing, okay? Only 356 users have added this game to their library. Through Lutris.

Through Lutris. And I think it's fair to say that the majority of Linux gamers are using Lutris. I don't know that, but I would wager that. If you want to play anything other than steam games and you don't probably going and you don't want to box with like wine tricks or something like that which i still can't quite figure out i haven't in fairness i haven't painstakingly read through all the documentation or anything like that but i i'm still it is not intuitive at all i'll say that much um so we're talking there's there's hundreds of us literally literally

there's hundreds of us yeah and even popular games like i was blown away what was that one that was like kind of a major esport that uh had almost no users uh rainbow six oh siege yeah see this this is one of the problems though You mentioned we installed it in different ways. Yes. I have had success. I mentioned earlier in the show, I installed the crew directly through Uplay. Yeah.

So that wouldn't show up on Lutris. Because the only install that would show up on Lutris for that would be the fact that I installed Ubisoft Connect. But then supposedly, the Lutris way was the more correct way, right? Like when we were streaming this last night. At least for Anno. For Anno. Yeah.

I got it working. So I used Lutris to install Ubisoft Connect rather than using Lutris to install Anno. And then however the launcher integration works for that. however the launcher integration works for that uh and so i think i had the more multiplayer compatible version but i think luke had the more a performant version that's what we think was going on because my my game actually ran pretty smooth mine mine was definitely slower compared to running it on windows like 100 100 i had to turn things way down and i got it i got it stable uh but it was it was uh it was sucking back those resources we should probably talk about sponsors at some point can i do that before you do that um

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Oh, okay. All right. Let's move on then. Yeah. N64 on Switch. Kind of sucks. What? Why is it disappointing?

Disappointing. No, I challenge your assertion that it's disappointing. Kind of sucks. Why is it disappointing? Disappointing. No, I challenge your assertion that it's disappointing. I... It's Nintendo. What were you expecting? Hey! Can't be disappointing if you expected poor performance. Yeah, I have not subscribed to this.

Wow, so surprising. Crap, I just refreshed this page and they're all gone. You have them, right? I've got them. Thank goodness. Why did you do that? I didn't mean to. I was just refreshed this page and they're all gone you have them right i've got them thank goodness why did you do that i didn't mean to i was just trying to scroll and it refreshed oh so yeah go ahead okay um yeah i have not subscribed to this but i have heard through the power of the internet uh that it is a suboptimal experience. I have heard that the performance is bad, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. It includes the following N64 games with more coming at a later date.

Dr. Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, Mario Tennis, Sin and Punishment, Star Fox 64, Super Mario 64, The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time, Win Back Covert Operations. Was that a popular game? Andoshi's story i love how that one's just like yeah um it's something maybe someone's a huge win back covert operations fan in the chat um the expansion pack comes with the sega genesis classics collection uh as well which is 29.99 i mean the issue isn't the games that it comes with the bigger issue is that the performance is apparently dog poo and it's even missing some

features like blur effects are changed or absent in the switch versions uh they've removed fog in some areas of ocarina which is like let's have a look fog in some areas of ocarina which is like let's have a look rut row wow that actually kind of that kind of kills the the vibe here fog was kind of a pretty big deal on n64 actually like well it's how you got away with uh having such crappy draw distance right yeah but like a lot of times really talented game developers will use those limitations to inspire creativity in like boating through the fog is a is an experience right right yeah so they take that limitation of draw distance and they make it into part of the gaming experience which is very cool yeah and you can see on the wii virtual, it's fine. It's only on the Switch version that it looks older.

Like it looks- Yeah, it looks really bad. Markedly worse than on the original and on the Wii Virtual Console. Like Wii Virtual Console is going to be the definitive edition of that one for sure. I mean, at least if we never get anything else. Yeah, yeah.

Wow, what a disappointment. Pretty disappointing disappointing especially when the price hike was like pretty high actually especially when the community has done so much more to preserve nintendo's history than nintendo is willing to do for themselves yeah and they want to charge quite a bit for it regular switch online is 20 bucks annually switch online plus the expansion pack is 50 bucks annually can we just get on with it and make it so that we can just buy a license for the game and then guilt-free play it on whatever we want pretty sweet i mean honestly if there was any way to port my save game over i would much rather like if i was going to do another playthrough of breath of the Wild or play the expansion,

like, because I was kind of thinking about it because Breath of the Wild 2 is coming. I would much rather play through it on my computer at 60 frames per second. Like obviously, because the Switch is, it's anemic. This conversation actually reminds me a lot of that game that people didn't want us to try on Linux, Forge Alliance Forever.

I think they do it in a really cool way. To play Forge Alliance Forever, of that that game that people didn't want us to try on linux uh forge alliance forever i think they do it in a really cool way to play forge alliance forever you have to like prove that you own a copy of forge alliance which you know what sure i'll go buy this copy of the game and then i will have the way better experience like the developers behind that are fantastic i'm constantly stunned by the stuff that those it's almost all community done it's almost no paperwork amazingly well done like they're very impressive uh like kind of just homebrew community dev team very very cool um but i yeah i'd way rather go play that experience and it's really cool that i can do that and i'm happy enough to buy the game and the forge alliance devs are happy

enough to do that little verification process and make sure that i've bought the game yep and everything's all cool i'm not trying to pirate this game but i would rather play the community experience because it's just way better and they're actually maintaining it unlike the original developers which i believe have been bought gas power games got bought or something yeah so they don't care about it anymore which is fine but the community does which is great and i would like to play the community version so yeah some type of purchase verification thing would be would be cool yeah mr marker says nintendo should just sell roms on a website to use on pc but that would never happen yeah pretty much i mean never say never i mean it's it's no secret that microsoft has wanted to get nintendo games on the xbox um i mean they've time and i i would have said that's impossible but i

also would have said that it's impossible for microsoft to get sony to bring their platform exclusives and yet here we are right yeah so the impossible is now possible pigs pigs are up black is down like i i i don't i don't know i i just don't know what world is anymore yeah yeah um in other news youtube is demonetizing low effort made for kids channels apparently so if your children's content is deemed low quality encourages negative behavior or attitudes or is heavily commercial you will be demonetized this sort of content was already on the way from way to being removed from youtube kids but now it's actually happening on regular youtube so anyone not adhering to guidelines could be booted from the partnership program other protections for kids are on the way that include

defaulting videos for users age 13 to 17 to private, enabling take a break and bedtime reminders, and no longer leveraging interests data from targeting kids and adults or for targeting kids and adults with ads. So discussion question here is how much of the internet should be regulated and how much is the parent's responsibility to keep the kids safe? I don't think most parents are qualified to keep their kids safe.

And I run into this a lot. And it's not, I'm not saying they're stupid people or they're bad people. I just run into a lot of parents that don't even know what discord is, let alone how to monitor their kids conversations on it a rather extreme amount of oversight to to track what your child is watching online it really does and like it's not exactly a secret these days like yeah when i was growing up

like my dad was tech savvy so i couldn't get away with anything. But most of the parents of my friends had no idea how to check a history on a browser. Oh, for sure. 100%. So that didn't matter. Yep. But there's more advanced stuff than that. And every YouTuber on the planet is talking about VPNs these days and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So being able to stay on top of this stuff yeah it's tough that's very tough it's also

youtube's platform and they can do whatever they want yeah well i don't think this is what they want to do i think they could make more money marketing heavily to kids and i think that the fact that they've waited so long to do this demonstrates that however um uh i mean i guess better late than never oh uh teamseas.org we've apparently dropped from number fifth to number eighth i actually don't know how to how to check that if you open it and then scroll down a little bit and click on most trash. Oh, okay. Instead of most recent. There we go. So I'm going to find out who's the most trash.

So where are we at? Oh, there we go. Right there. Oh, of course. You know what's the funniest part of this number? Nice. I did not specify that. And you know who handles the money here right yeah so somehow yvonne managed to manage to work a 69 joke into our uh into our stupid

donation for team c's so if you guys didn't see it today we just did a little video calling out team c's go check it out uh basically it's all about removing trash from the ocean so every dollar um mr beast's partners have agreed to remove a pound of trash from the ocean the goal is to remove 30 million pounds by the first of january next year so guys go go check it out as far as i know this is the largest youtuber collab um ever so yeah yeah get uh get get get get on get on that knock me off the front page here i'm into it do it yeah why not uh what else we got we need to talk about this week? Copyright office.

Yeah, you're so enthused about this topic. Tell me more. Copyright office lessening the risks of DRM on repair. It's just that it's lessening that's such a whiff tell me why just just just go further be harder on this stuff I don't know like there's there's so much push right now we're seeing we're seeing multiple companies embrace the idea framework and others i'm sorry i just can't remember the names valve yes 100 good call there's that phone yep yep

fair phone yep okay got it uh there's there's other stuff i think probably coming out where microsoft is doing that internal investigation into whether right to repair is important spoiler it is wacky but at least they're trying. We're seeing companies embrace the idea of right to repair, which is fantastic. People like Lewis Rossman and others are really, really, really pushing this stuff. Marques did a video about it a couple months ago. You guys did.

It was very good, by the way. Oh, I said Marques. Yeah, and so did you. Oh, oh, oh, sorry. Yes, we did. I thought you misheard me. Oh, no, no, I was adding on to it. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah no i wasn't asking for a pat on the back this is really good yours is really good there's there's been lots of stuff out there just do it don't like sort of do

it so basically the register recommended exemptions to unlocking wireless telecommunications devices expanding on the devices that one can jailbreak to allow it to interoperate with or to remove software applications and allow diagnosis, maintenance, and repair of motorized land vehicles or marine vessels, devices designed for consumers

and medical devices. On that latter point, however, they restricted the repair of video game consoles to optical drives only. Lame! This is in response to a petition by iFixit and Public Knowledge complaining about how drives and motherboards are married to each other, making repair significantly more difficult. Right, but you guys are missing the

point. As soon as you create a carve-out for one thing, the manufacturers of these products that have demonstrated time and time and time and time again that they are willing to actually spend money to waste yours to build in these preventative measures to make sure that you can't repair your devices. They've shown they're willing to do it. So they're just going to work around it again. There was a there was a right to repair video made by I am very sorry if you're watching this. Somebody that I don't remember the name of where they stacked a ton of playstations yeah and their whole thing it was like kind of like oh it's a challenge how many playstations can i stack outside in the wind and he has like a ton of them and he stacks this huge

amount and eventually they fall over and a bunch of them like get damaged and he's like doesn't matter because i can't fix them because i'm like not allowed it's like wow that's brutal it was actually like really good because you're like that's such a waste when you see them hit the ground right why would you do that yeah because they look in decent condition they're a little dusty or whatever sure yeah but it's it's just sad tronics fix jd's fix Yeah, it was a really good video because it made you kind of react. Right. And you should react.

It sucks seeing a giant tower of electronics just get wasted onto the ground without the creator being wasteful, which was so weird. Like, you kind of want to be mad at the guy because he just wasted a bunch of consoles, but he didn't. So you can't be.

Yeah, I don't know. It's such a frustrating situation. I think I know this guy. Tronics Fix? Yeah. Yeah, I forgot his channel name, but I've watched his stuff before. Really good.

Like, not personally. I'm pretty sure I've seen his stuff before. It's good stuff. Yeah. Yeah, really good stuff. Definitely. Love it. All right, you know what else is really good stuff definitely love it yeah all right you know

what else is really good stuff it is finally time for us to uh go through some of these what are we calling them what what are we we didn't really uh what yeah what are we calling these ltt store chats or whatever we had some ideas okay um let's go with ltt store chat for now okay and i think you're gonna have to do most of them because i accidentally closed the browser page and they're gone okay yeah there's gonna be there's gonna be kind of a lot but hopefully some of them will at least prompt some some discussion here do when you do super chats do you often say the person's name uh i would try to anonymize it a little bit just in case they submitted theirs anonymously so i

would just go with like first name okay yeah i was gonna say one of the one of the suggestions in flowplane chat uh was to do first name so maybe i'll go with that um zachary says nice phone holder linus when is ltd coming out with your own pc case line uh no time soon designing a pc case is extremely time consuming and challenging. And ultimately, it's going to be built by the same one of the same handful of manufacturers that actually has the equipment and expertise to build PC cases anyway. So unless we had a really brilliant idea that we felt was a total game changer, I don't see why we would get involved. Ben says, Hello, Linus. Thanks for for the awesome streams can we get the file to the

fold stand you're rocking tonight I mean you could try tweeting at Nick Calinan because he's the one who brought it over here so I'm assuming he knows something about where it came from at Nick Calinan Nick Heavy on Twitter

John says thanks to you and your team for what you're doing at Nick Callanan, Nick Heavy on Twitter. John says, thanks to you and your team for what you're doing. Mape says, co-worker and I already bought WAN hoodies this week and he bought a WAN lanyard. Thanks, Mape. Hey, thanks, Mape. Robert says, hey, gents. Hope you have a great show and a great weekend. Thanks.

Jeremy says, thanks so much. Been waiting for a WAN hoodie. And he bought a bunch of stuff uh alex big order says lga bottle go brr lga bottle lga yeah lga bottle oh oh oh that's right because the v2 of the water bottle um doesn't have a pin grid array socket on it it's it's upgraded we've never actually i've never really talked about that in the videos or anything like that but it's it's upgraded we've never actually i've never really talked about that in the videos or anything like that but it's like oh that that's a v2 bottle right yeah yeah yeah so you can show it's yeah it's got an lga socket now and it's also got uh like memory um memory slots

on both sides of the cpu socket it's quad channel and it supports SLI. And this old one's like AGP. That was not actually something we did intentionally. Just our designer for these is not particularly tech savvy and doesn't really desire to be. So the motherboard graphic that was created originally was just based on a super old motherboard for no real reason.

And then this time around, some not as old motherboard was chosen for no particular reason so that so it ended up getting upgraded by the way apparently a name was chosen effectively by conrad it could be changed but i actually like this one it's called merch messages okay merch messages there you go that's what that's what we're gonna call it uh i'm gonna say this guy's last name because he used it in his super chat um her herfin says herfin's naked give herfin a shirt and he bought a mystery shirt okay makes sense all right yeah mystery mystery sure it's a good way i mean if if you're just naked and you're desperate mystery sure it's a good way to go that's what it works i mean at this point anything's an upgrade.

Mystery shirt. Ben says, ordered my WAN hoodie on Tuesday. Would love to see video resume on float plane. Ah, yeah, yeah. And picture in picture in iOS. Jaden wants to work on that too. What I would like done first is it remembering where I am scrolling through the comments. Oh.

When I accidentally turn it or lock it that would be super super amazing if jayden's watching uh i think he is stop jayden would love to hear some more updates on app development on flow plane right now our app developer guy is doing tons of work on the front end for the website it's been really really good actually and there's there's more coming and there's going to be dark mode and there's going to be a bunch of Tons of work on the front end for the website. It's been really, really good, actually. And there's more coming. And there's going to be dark mode, and there's going to be a bunch of other cool stuff.

And then we'll be diving back into the apps. Hannah sent in a message. Thanks, Linus. I'm a female in tech, and no one ever believed in me, but you keep me going. Well, those people sucked. what they did that's stupid what did what did he even say what no she she's female in tech and no one ever believed in me oh yeah yeah they said right i'm totally on board okay yeah see you were like you were like what do

they suck i just i just didn't hear it i didn't hear it i'm sorry they suck they suck 3 000 yeah they're losers don't worry about them um sean says luke you made a good thing i didn't make it but good job conrad um i'd give it a five out of seven perfect thing i don't know if he's i have no idea what that means let's move on my favorite number is 57 i don't know if he knows that or not oh okay i don't know if it's a me like it might be a meme someone says when are we getting the screwdriver is there any updates okay oh i did not expect oh crap uh is this gonna be anticlimactic it's not in my bag okay like i actually took it out to show it to our logistics company that we work with for decreasing our shipping costs to the US was in the office. And I took it out to show it to them.

And I must have not put it back in my bag. The problem is not solved. But our manufacturing partner for it is trying to put pressure on the folks that are building the ratchets, which is the holdup right now. And hopefully it will be sooner than like late Q1 of next year, but no promises. Yeah. It's, it's been extremely delayed.

Yeah. Thanks Nate and Jeffrey. Yeah. I think that, I think the hoodie is sweet too. Hexagon, all the things indeed. I'm working my way from the bottom.

So you feel free to... Yeah, you're doing the recent ones, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Malik says, military guy who loves tech. Keep up the content. You and the team rock. Ryan says, I can finally order one of these.

He got a WAN hoodie. He said, wanted the original hoodie when you had to deal with Overclockers UK, but you mentioned they pulled out. Super to finally get one they did it was a it was a big big suck move by them yeah pulled out at the last minute and i wanted to get pregnant brian says thanks for all the information you guys give love the show uh joel says there's a software called Argus Monitor that lets you set the chassis fan curve

based on GPU temps or any other temp the computer can detect for anyone wanting to make their own Noctua GPU cooler. Yes, I believe there are other softwares you can do that in as well. But the reason I didn't, and I had some people complaining

about this in the video, the reason I didn't was because I was running them at full speed and the performance still sucked. So no amount of tuning the fan RPMs was going to make it worth doing. That was why I didn't bother to go down that path. But yeah, okay, Argus, cool tool. Thank you.

Peter Howe, how? Howe, let me go with Howe. It says, loving the new new make my name anonymous checkbox it's pronounced hoff not how okay my bad wow oh my goodness there's some people watching on youtube that are really confused guys don't send super chats on youtube chats these are these super chats. These are merch messages, and they pop up here when you buy something on LTT Store and you go through and leave a message.

By the way, if you're hoping to have us read it out at this point in the show, guys, we're wrapping it up. We're wrapping it up, so don't do that. But that's what we're reading. We are not reading super chats. We said that. We said that we said that i'm sorry uh amy says tell adam i said merry christmas getting started on my shopping early he's a fan of yours hey all right merry christmas adam melissa says uh wan shows our weekly ritual

shout out to my boyfriend will can't wait to wait to go to LTX Expo, hopefully, and got two lanyards, which I think is pretty cool. I saw Sarah working on artwork. Oh. I saw it on her screen. Maybe LTX something. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see.

Michael says, LGA bottle, brr, volume two. Thanks, Michael. You did it twice. Oliver says, with a massive order by the way said please make pajamas and or sweatpants i would love to so sweatpants oh those are coming pajamas i want to but we're not there we're not there yet we have to do a completely completely custom fabric um sweatpants can kind... We all know you don't wear pajamas, Luke. Yeah.

Anonymous. They probably didn't know that. Oh, they know. You're totally a no PJs guy. Look at you. Anonymous just picked up two WAN hoodies,

two tech scarves, a Northern Lights desk pad, an insulated water bottle, and another desk pad. Comment. Let's go. Oh, man. What else we got? Blake says, I hope these beanies, in quotes, and then then in brackets it's a toque are you not even canadian are large because i have a big head also is lmg still hiring an accountant uh yes yeah you're gonna want to go ahead and apply for the position at linusmediagroup.com i said you

missed the follow-up email after submitting the Google form. Oh. Then maybe you didn't qualify? Uh-oh. I don't know. Not sure. Yeah, I don't know. If you don't have

a Canadian work permit, I can tell you you probably wouldn't have gotten an email back. Someone said, and I totally agree with this, Jeremy says, great design

on the limited edition PC or no PC t-shirt. Heck yeah it looks awesome yeah uh i believe sarah did that one uh it's cool i'm actually i'm pretty darn sure that sarah did that one i think she did a great job riley says linus your videos have boosted my knowledge and led me to a career in it thank you heck yeah no problem pc or no pc limited edition shirt there you go luke bought a wan hoodie and just commented misclick okay luke all right eric says big cpu pillow big yeah and bought a cpu pillow uh brandon said finally and bought wan hoodies in large and medium so is that one for one for the so and one for yourself brandon

cool okay are you almost through those okay you got to start going a little faster ltt socks and shoes win well you have to say the name at least anonymous oh bloody hell killing me here whoa travis got uh ltd lanyard orange and white and black and aqua so it's going back to work on site need some snazzy lanyards for my badge yo dog i heard you like lanyards so i put a lanyard on your lanyard color sync his wow oh that's kind of smart, actually. That's actually pretty sweet. I never thought of that when we had a bunch of different lanyard colors.

Fascinating. Cool. Nick says, is this how we hydrate in the metaverse? And he bought a water bottle. Okay. All right. Once the world is back to normal,

you should do a video on visiting Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory. We've got cool stuff like quantum computers and particle accelerators. I'm sure Alex would be 100% on the next plane over there. I have toured a particle accelerator. I filmed it. They knew I was filming it.

As I left, they said, by the way, no. To all of that, never shot it. I was filming it. As I left, they said, by the way, no. To all of that, never show it. I was like, okay. Do I know about this? I don't know. Maybe not. What?

I was there for other reasons. And then I took vacation time. And then on my vacation time, I toured this thing. And I just brought my own camera. It wasn't filmed well. But they, yeah. Apparently, like, some people thought it was okay. And then, like, someone higher up heard that it was happening and was like, no.

And it got, like, super killed. Do you still have the footage? No. Oh, so they, like, were like, delete that now. Yes. Oh, I see. You mean. No. No No Got it okay

Um Stephen Bought a Bought two three packs of underwear said Sleeve my butt in these every day All else is inferior That's only six that's not every day Unless you actually do your laundry every six days Well considering he's saying that he already does it

He probably already owns it Super excited for the WAN hoodie Keep up the good work guys from Abraham you actually do your laundry every six days. Well, considering he's saying that he already does it, he probably already owns it. Yeah, come on. Super excited for the WAN hoodie. Keep up the good work, guys. From Abraham. Going back to my... Oh, already did that one. Navy EMT. What will come first? The LTT screwdriver or Luke's crowbar hammer

Kickstarter? Probably the LTT screwdriver. I haven't checked in a while, but I bet you there's no update on the hammer. It genuinely takes half a year every time. Subscribe to They're Just Movies from William. Hey. Yeah, good podcast.

Good guys. Good guys are on that podcast. 3700X Gang, let's go. In the days before the algorithm, your friends were real. Facebook showed every post by all of them in chronological order, and it was a good service from Anonymous. Yeah. I mean, that last bit is still a little debatable.

I liked Facebook way back in the day. When I was genuinely in high school, Facebook was happening, dude. Okay. You know what? I guess that's fair. Maybe I just came into it a little bit late. Yeah. I was quickly over Facebook. I did not like facebook anymore by the time i was in like post-secondary but like actual high school when it was brand new right it was pretty cool been seeing y'all wear the hoodie and have to have one looks epic

wear the hoodie and have to have one looks epic hey please get david to model them winky face wow david got a secret admirer dang would like to see the sad linus wansho background one day um wansho background i don't know like my door a lot of people think this is a green screen this is this is not a green screen it It's not. That is an actual wall. And those doors are my actual wall. I have a wall of doors. So I'm not planning to move my wall of doors to the office. Yeah. Okay, you got to go faster, Luke.

I got my water bottle at ltdstore.com. Love your products. ltdstore.com. Yoloing the WAN hoodie versus stealth. And he got the WAN hoodie. Hope Anthony likes the fit. Oh, I'm a similar body type. Oh, nice.com, YOLOing the WAN hoodie versus stealth. And he got the WAN hoodie. Hope Anthony likes the fit. Oh, I'm a similar body type and just want to be comfy. Okay, okay.

Anthony's been rocking it like every day since he got his sample. So I think he's doing all right with it. He must dig it. Great new feature. Remember when it was super chat on a previous WAN show? Can we get an answer on what the process of getting when on float plane after it airs and why it takes longer than youtube yeah luke tell me okay you guys could have a better computer for this better computer for it well what's the problem with the computer i've i emailed you

this oh right because there's the encoding errors yeah so this computer for some reason sends like over a hundred uh frames which my guys are looking at in chunks. So that part doesn't matter. But it sends chunks at the beginning of every single stream that are audio only, which the transcoding does not like at all. And then there's also keyframes later on in the video that just have massive gaps between them, which the transcoding does not like at all. So we're working on a system that will like cleanse those problems. Um, I don't think it's like prodded yet. Um, but as of right now, we're going to have to like manually download the file, transcode it locally after cleaning it,

and then upload it back up again. Now we know that is the issue, which is an advancement. So that's good. So it should go up a little bit faster this time but there will still be a little bit of a delay um it is it is very annoying we have never experienced it with any stream ever other than coming back to the office and specifically streaming on this computer which is the same computer we used to stream wanshow on it is not the like streaming cart that they do other streams on the other streams are fine are fine they don't have a problem it's just this computer so i don't know okay so we're working on it basically yeah next level challenge daily drive gaming on a mac no hope you like playing starcraft i think that works on i want to play that new uh that new game by the final

fantasy 6 dev guy like lead dev or whatever lead project lead i forget phantasian or something like that oh i want to play it but i'm gonna wait till it comes out for a platform that i don't have to subscribe yeah because that's on the apple keep my save game thing right yeah i'm sure it'll come up for something else eventually okay this is long uh from elliot hey linus and luke first time catching the show live and first super chat it's it's a it's a merch message about the linux challenge i know you want to do it without help but would you ever consider a collab with a linux creator after it ends someone like nick from tle anthony knows him who has a lot of experience and great content

focusing on desktop environments and user friendliness could be nice to recommend for viewers looking to dive into it. I mean, I think we would absolutely consider collaborating with Linux channels, but it wouldn't be on this channel. I mean, we have before. We've collaborated with Wendell from Level 1 Techs.

Who's awesome. Who's amazing. He's the best. I mean, we have before. We've collaborated with Wendell from Level One Text. Who's awesome. Who's amazing. He's the best. It's just, it's not part of this content series.

This content series is about not having access to those kinds of industry contacts and trying to go in and Google for answers and research it on your own. Like I, I mean, I said right at the beginning of it, if I wanted help, I could probably contact the lead dev for half a dozen different Linux distros within a matter of 48 hours.

If I was like, hey, I'm going to feature your distro in a video and they would hold my hand and basically do everything for me. That was not what i wanted i wanted to struggle i wanted trial by fire and this is not a new thing for reviewers too you have boy did i ever get it you have to seek authentic experiences yeah because you you get kind of ambushed or sneak attacked by by companies that try to feed you golden samples, that try to kind of fake-o customer service experiences. I mean, that's why we had Janice and then Sarah act as our secret shoppers. You know, we wanted to, well, there were a number of reasons

that we chose them in particular. One was that they legitimately are not super into computers, so they wouldn't have to fake it, or like fake the things they didn't know. so they wouldn't have to fake it or like fake the things they didn't know. Two was that I was looking to kind of prey on any companies that heard a female voice and assumed anything about them. You know, I wanted to catch any of that kind of behavior. And three is that they, at least at the time were not that recognizable i mean now they're both minor internet celebrities because a secret shopper but they were they were not

recognizable names because a lot of the time in order to order things you have to give your real name and so we needed to find a way around that because as soon as an order from linus sebastian comes into a system integrator, you can bet your bottom dollar that that is going to get the white glove treatment just in case. You should try it. You should try to order a computer. It's not a bad idea.

I mean, it's like fraud, so don't, but I think so. Impersonating someone? It's gotta be. Like you're not allowed to place orders fraudulently and giving a false name when you place an order i don't think but you wouldn't put the name on the credit card okay they'd check that the payment details would have to be different yeah yeah so so i don't actually recommend falsifying your payment information. Yeah, definitely not. Jeremy says, been doing the Linux gaming challenge with you guys.

That's actually really cool. He says, all my AAA games are working great. Only game that is borked is Star Citizen. But that's not a significantly different experience from Windows. Oh, man. We'll probably stick it out with Linux as long as I can. Cool. All right.

That's super cool. Anwar. Anwar. Anwar. I'm going to go with Anwar. Said we need LTT NFTs on meta. That's one of those sentences. I read an article today that the title was,

I'm a millennial and I don't recognize any of the words that they added to whatever dictionary today. I feel like I recognized most of them. It was things like zero day. Like it's just like kind of technical terms, like stuff that I know what it is. So I wasn't like, oh, I'm so out of touch. I'm a millennial.

But that sentence you just said is the kind of thing that... What did that even mean? Nothing. Nothing. Yeah, not really. Don't like the purchase pop-ups in the stream. Just use a rolling text at the bottom. I daily drive Linux for a while now.

I usually run my system for up to three months with just hibernates. No stability issues at all. I never could do that with windows due to force updates instability well um the majority of games i've been installing on steam won't launch until i restart my computer so our experiences are not necessarily the same there are maybe things we can change about the pop-up like right now it swipes off to the left or oh yeah maybe it should go up to the top it should go up whatever this is very much a gen one experience but oh yeah we're working on it it's fresh it's fresh sick hoodie thanks bro thanks for all your team and what they do from benjamin michael says finally i can get a wansho hoodie uh caden this is a very important potato um sure love it okay we've made it far enough into just the like bullcrap us reading

merch messages and super chats and stuff um that i'm gonna give you guys the heads up because most people will not make it this deep into the wan show you guys are clearly dedicated oh my we do not have a ton of WAN hoodies. Oh, yeah. So there's a couple mentions for the hoodie coming up in a couple videos that are coming next week. My expectation is that the second anyone,

the second that mention drops, we are going to sell out. We ordered, you know, whatever. You guys are the, you guys are the dedicated ones. We ordered 4,000 and we have already sold over a thousand. And so far, all we've done to promote it is we tweeted once, we sent out a message to previous LTT store buyers, and we wore it today.

That is it. And that might sound like a lot, but compared to our plan, which was like the Northern Lights desk pad. So compared to our plan where we were gonna do a dedicated short circuit unboxing. When we did the dedicated short circuit unboxing for Northern Lights desk pad, it was insane. And then, remember, for Deskpad, we also had a making of video on LTT.

So we weren't planning that for the hoodie, but we were going to follow it up with a bunch of mentions in LTT videos. We did two mentions, realized that the sales velocity was way too high, and we were just going be out of stock of the thing for like four months or something like that so the next ship there is another shipment in production but the problem is that it is not done yet so it will hopefully be done in some weeks and then after that it needs to be shipped here and that's problematic it's heavy and bulky so shipping it via air is not that feasible it's it's not very cost effective um so it's probable that it'll end up on a c shipment which means that with all the ports and logistics delays around the world right now it could easily be like anywhere from i mean a month is normal so it could be anywhere from six to eight, 12, 16 weeks. I don't know once it's done production. So if you guys want one, grab it.

Don't feel like you'll never get a chance again though. This is an ongoing skew. So if you don't have $90 right now, don't spend it. Wait, wait. Just know that you're going to have to wait for a while. Yeah. So that second production is going to be another 4 000 units and then we are currently talking to the factory about uh like a

lot more yeah because i was blown away by the demand i mean we only sold well there was also that thing where you guys originally were expecting to receive this order in like more of a summer month yeah yeah yeah so we were expecting that it was going to be like summer selling hoodies so we we kind of we kind of under ordered instead it's winter and q4 and we're selling hoodies so we we thought we were going to already have the second shipment and we thought we were already going to have some sales data to put together our future orders um but yeah it's it's kind of blown us away because i know it was eight years ago or whatever but when we released wan hoodie originally we only had a total of like 700 units or something so 800 or something like that i don't remember how many it was but it was the minimum

quantity i remember i thought it was insane that we like bought that many and like seeing all the boxes of them i was like whoa this is crazy And now it's like over 10 times as much. Yeah, it's stupid now. Like LTT store is going crazy. And you guys are huge. Thank you very much. So yeah, don't overdo it. If you don't have the funds right now just

don't just wait for the next one uh but if you were like waffling you're like oh maybe i'll order it next week or next when show so that i can do a merch message or whatever then i strongly would advise against that i want you to make sure you get one now then yeah yeah zendrix super cool name by the way says ltt store has the best quality shirts and he got three shirts and a wan hoodie nice epic anonymous uh long-time listener first time mercher uh love the comedic approach to tech i played all the days of the bf 2042 beta luke oh got him ben says finally a shirt men actually want to wear got some toxic masculinity over there ben uh bought the limited edition pc or no pc shirt it is a really nice design though it's pretty cool designed by a woman just saying i don't think that was his comment. No, no, no. But it was.

Sarah does such a great job. Sarah, Lloyd, Bridget, Matthew, the whole team there. Those guys are freaking awesome. Ken. Thanks, guys. Computer tech, cybersecurity instructor, long-time viewer, trying to get some cred with my students. If they see this comment, they get extra credit.

Oh, wow. We really buried it deep in the show for you chris johnson got him uh anonymous thank you for the excellent work ltd helped reignite my passion for pcs a few years ago i've been an avid viewer since thank you hey by the way guys there's a there's a cool exclusive that's only one day old on floatplane oh yeah yeah the um the making a pre-built pc great again video right no oh behind the scenes clip composition clip comp part two oh compilation madison's been putting together some like very bs random videos for floatplane exclusives heck yeah check it out they're exactly the kind of cringe you would expect ah ah yes ah okay okay um yeah so we're gonna have to call it at some point here

luke we can't keep doing chats i'm kind of getting there actually okay i've got two really long ones to do um all right there's uh thanks for all the great this is from kellen thanks for all the great content uh wanshow over the years and recently bts on floatplane hey heck yeah uh been spending the last week unsuccessfully trying to diagnose hard crashes on my desktop that has been stable for years crashes so quickly no event logs other than boot from uh improper shutdown show up thinking the 49 or 46 90k is trying to give up the ghost the only uh visual identifier of failure has been minor html render issues and browsers that flash by sometimes this is a truly unfortunate

time for anyone who's yeah for anyone who's plagued with dying hardware. And picky taste for a replacement rig. Almost swore off tech from the crashes last weekend. You know what? But IT pays too well for my day job. Might actually not be as terrible a time as you might think because if Alder Lake is as good as Intel says, that is going to shave some serious value off of like something like Ryzen 2000,

which is very respectable hardware still absolutely and you might see some upgraders yeah yeah i i think now my non might not actually be a terrible time for you another one uh from joel bit of a longer one a note on the knock to a gpu video there is a software called argus i read that one i think i caught up to you then oh did you uh nick is gonna freak out if i don't show this to you guys. We have our second edition of the leak, the Linus Tech Tips store newsletter. So this is an update on screwdriver guys. We made a lot of tough choices about our screwdriver in the two years we've been building it. No, we don't have a release date for you yet. Yes, we are more disappointed than you are.

But there's a really cool bit in here about screwdriver bits because that was something that we did a bunch of research into. I know for a lot of industries, screwdriver bits are considered more of like a consumable, right? Like you just,

you're putting them in power tools, you're throwing them away, like, you're throwing them away, like, you know, after a couple of days of use. But for like someone who builds PCs and that's all they do, you actually, basically forever, a feature of your bits might actually be that they last for a really long time. And because we've got these shorty bits in the screwdriver, we wanted to make sure that if people are careful with them and don't lose them that they wouldn't have to replace them any more often than possible or any more often than they absolutely have to so uh kyle actually wrote up a really cool little little blurb about um the research that he did into titanium bits um you know whether they make

any sense whether they're actually any better than steel, what makes them better than steel or not better than steel. And it's just a really cool little write-up. So you guys are going to want to make sure that you go subscribe to the Linus Tech Tips Store newsletter. I talked to Nick about it this week, and I think that the goal for the newsletter is for every time we talk to you about something, there to be an educational component, whether it's learning about supply chain, learning about material science, like this one, learning about design.

I think having, one of the ones I suggested to him was having Sarah talk through all of the different colors of tupes that she did not select for our new lineup. And sort of why, like, what is it about these? Why do we choose these colors? Because it's fascinating. And it's the kind of thing that if you're just browsing on a store you don't necessarily think about as someone who might not be that into fashion not that i'm generalizing

about our audience but it's quite possible that a lot of the stuff that um you know bridget and matthew and sarah and lloyd are working on could be some of your first exposure to sort of like a higher quality garment we see so many comments about the underwear that are like this is the best wherever and and it is it's it's good but there is stuff out there that's comparable if you were willing to pay like a whole ton of money for it um it's just that you know I get it like I I was a Costco shop or Costco sock shopper for most of my life like i totally get it um but there's a lot to this stuff that i just never really thought about until all of a sudden i was trying to i was trying to lead a business that creates it right just get you get thrown into it

like that right so yeah go make sure you're subscribed and uh give it give it a read through um we're gonna we're gonna try and make sure that the newsletter is not a waste of your time obviously there'll be stuff like hey you should probably buy this because it's like a store newsletter but i want to make sure that it's content it's yet another content stream and i think that's pretty much it for wancho today. Do you have anything else that you wanted to jump in with? No, no. There's a few more orders came in. There's a ton more, but I did already tell people the cutoff. The cutoff was real.

Okay. You know what? Thanks, Quentin, Calidor, Sean, Min, Anonymous. Luke Ninja looted me this water bottle. I don't even know what that means. You don't know what Ninja loot means no really that's like actually terminology brandon i may spill something on my first one getting another i have the money not worried thanks guys all right brandon thanks randy i work in it can i get a button down shirt we have a short sleeve party shirt coming i don't know if that's quite applicable.

A party shirt? You haven't seen it? It's actually pretty cool. Lloyd designed it. It's pretty cool. It's very comfortable. Anthony, long time viewer. Just wish pickup was an option.

So I do kind of want to do an LTT store, not com. I want to call it that. Nick, are you watching? LTT store, not com will be our retail location it's funny it's pretty good it's funny it's pretty good i do want to do a physical location here in vancouver and i would like to offer pickup if we do that but man commercial leases here are absolutely insane right now uh jagger, I talked about the Secret Labs chairs when we did Alex's Extreme Tech upgrade. Awesome.

Oh, Nick message, Nick message. What's he saying? What's he saying? He says, LTT store, go F yourself.com. Thanks, Nick. I don't think he likes my branding idea. Jamie, thanks for the heads up on limited availability. I was going to do it next week, but i can do it now heck yeah jamie uh anonymous have a few cookies tonight uh todd

great show tonight so i have to see you both together love the updated hexagon design heck yeah so somebody bought the limited edition uh pc or no pc t-shirt and four different colors of lanyards and just said cool cool all right cool patrick uh with alder lake not being square when can i expect my bed-sized cpu pillow we do have some other uh cpu pillows coming including a team red one so stay tuned for that i don't think we have an alder lake plan yet thanks andrew thanks robert um thanks michael all right we really do have to call this at some point people are ordering faster than i can scroll so uh rafael when will the new macbooks be reviewed so uh jonathan's been working on it he's our mac

address host um anthony's been working on it he's doing doing the LTT angle. And I have not even really looked at them yet other than to be like, ooh. So we're working on it. Thanks for tuning in, guys. Hope y'all enjoyed the show. We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Terrible channel.

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