The WAN Show - What is Apple Doing?? - WAN Show May 24, 2019

Episode Date: May 26, 2019

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Do we call this stuff out? Hey there, ladies and gentlemen! Hey! Welcome to the WAN Show, Riley! It's a show! Riley and I were just in the middle of discussing what you do on the WAN Show, because he hasn't been on it in a while, and... Well, I was on it, actually...

I guess we're jumping right in. Two or three weeks ago. Oh, were you? But I screwed it up. You screwed it up? I didn't click the... And that was me. Yes.

That's my fault. Ah, yes. Was that? No. He didn't know that. I didn't know it was you. I knew that a thing went wrong. Oh, wow.

My coworkers protected me. So now I'm going to have to add Wanshow to the list of things that we can't trust Riley with, along with RTX 2080 reviews. You know what you can trust me with? New apparel. Pimping the merch. Hey, love it.

So I've actually got our like oldest merch and then Riley's decked out in our newest stuff. We can talk about that later. Later. Anyway, we've got a bunch of great topics for you guys today. We're going to be talking about the new 8-core Core i9 MacBook Pro. Of course, I have some sort of mixed thoughts on this machine. We've yet to get one in the office, but I've been following the latest developments pretty closely.

We're also going to be talking about YouTube's controversial move to change the subscriber counter so it's harder to tell just how many subscribers a channel has. What else we got? We got Nvidia super something. They teased something on social media. They released a YouTube video. I don't even know if I want to give them attention for that. Okay we're not gonna we're not gonna talk about that. No we'll talk about it at all. We'll talk about it. It's just gonna be me ranting angrily instead of actually speculating. Well, you can speculate.

I can't wait. All right, what else we got? Oh, well, we got the Huawei nonsense. Oh, good. We could talk about that a little bit. Yeah, we'll talk about that later. We got 5G. So many things.

And first, but first we got the intro. See you later. There's music here yeah i always i never know because you play the intro and it's like do we keep talking they can hear us talking right now oh yeah they can hear us talking over the music it's just it's one of those things that we could fix but we didn't. Corsair! Wait what? Squarespace! Squarespace! Madrinas! Madrinas Coffee. Oh hey, Madrinas is a sponsor. Well they can't see you drinking it like that. Well that's why I tried to make it extra loud. Alright guys so why don't we jump right into our oh shoot I think I left the title wrong on floatplane poor floatplane never mind never mind I just need to refresh the tab Oh, shoot, I think I left the title wrong on float plane. Poor float plane.

Never mind. Never mind. No, it's great. I just needed to refresh the tab. Freaking awesome. Love you so much. All right. Oh, wow.

Oh! It is so terrible that Luke isn't here today. Oh, no. No, no. I mean, it's, wow, that came across wrong. We're adding co-host the WAN show with Linus to the things, right? Yeah, yeah. So the reference I'm making there, guys, is on Riley's first WAN show,

I made a joke that he wasn't qualified to review the RTX 2080, and people got upset because it wasn't a joke. He's not. And the difference is that I am qualified to review it badly. So if you don't want that. Look, everyone here has their different specialties. Anthony's our GPU guy. He's more qualified than either of us.

I was just poking fun at Riley. So that's the reference I'm making here. Maybe we just shouldn't, you shouldn't just, we shouldn't even address that. But Riley, Riley, the thing that you're not qualified to talk about compared to my usual co-host is actually the latest by creators for creators

video streaming service that popped up on the internet have i heard about this i doubt it it actually um it happened pretty quietly and i'm just i'm trying to remember what it's called right now ah yes here we go here we go, here we go. So I really, I wish Luke was here because we would have a lot to say about this. But guess what? There is another creator-created video service out there now. So they've got a handful of creators, including MinutePhysics, SciShow. Who else is on here?

LowSpecGamer is on there. These guys are all on it? Yeah, these guys are all on it. Oh, dang. This isn't actually... So we have a new archenemy. Oh, no, I wouldn't say that at all. Their shtick is honestly so different from Floatplane

that I couldn't be less concerned about it. When do we launch a concentrated uh strike a concentrated strike when do we send the the strike force i'm just kidding love all of you guys so their jam is that it's mostly like science and um yeah intellectual creators like us. I'm kind of thinking that our strike force probably doesn't have to be that hardcore Oh I'm generalizing. I'm generalizing. I should we would have the gadgets I shouldn't just like they're just like sitting there in coffee shops thinking about like the questions of the universe and we're like You know building

Weapons, I don't think we have much capacity to build weapons either in fact I would give them more weapon building street cred than than us for sure maybe maybe okay look I sure wish this was a fight I turned it right right from the get-go into something where they have to be enemies we can be friends you know this is this is a problem what do you this is the problem with not just having proper USB ports on laptops. Oh, right. You got an adapter. You got a dongle. Yeah, I think this dongle hub is broken. You're trying to live that dongle life right now.

I hate that dongle life. Back in a moment, ladies and gentlemen. And this, in addition to the fact that 8 cores is too much, well, it's not too much. It's too much for an Apple laptop. This is also why you don't buy the Apple MacBook Pro, because they don't have enough USB ports. All right, we'll talk about that later.

I'm upset. Okay. Here we go. Let's try this again. Freaking stupid butt. There it goes. Dongle is rubbish. You're right, Back729.

This dongle's bad. Hey, Colton. Yo, what's up? Got a bad dongle. Yeah, show me your dongle. Bad don right. Back to 729. This dongle's bad. Hey, Colton. Yo, what's up? Got a bad dongle. Yeah, show me your dongle. Bad dongle. E-waste pile. E-waste pile.

Oh! Oh, he stepped on it. I did. I mean, I wouldn't use the word stomp. Colton's an absolute mad lad. I definitely wouldn't use the word crush. But step. Step, yes.

Boom, roasted. All right. Step, yes. Boom, roasted. All right. So, oh. Oh, what? Is it? Hold on a second. You know, I just really want to talk about. You're trying to log in?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm logging in. Okay, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm trying to do. You're trying to log into your competitor's site and they deleted your account. No, no. I wouldn't. Honestly.

Okay. So speaking honestly. Yeah. No, no, I wouldn't, honestly. Okay, so speaking honestly, no, I do not consider this a competitor. And I don't mean that in like a casting shade way. They'll never be at our level. I just mean that it's really, really different from what we're doing. So I signed up for a trial account,

they have a seven day trial, and I was obviously really curious, hold on, let me just make sure that this is muted. Yeah, good. I was obviously really curious to see how they've got it set up. What's their shtick? So it looks like one of the things that they're using to stand out, so you can really see from the categories, explainers, history, music, science and engineering, technology,

writing, they're really focused on like they kind of stem Categories right and then also music and gaming and film and TV Yeah, this would be good to have Luke here for this and then they've also got originals So man test auto has done some originals Isaac Arthur has done some originals polyphonic has done some originals I mean they just launched so so honestly there's not, there's not a ton going on right now. Touch screen works to scroll through this deal though, so that's pretty cool.

I can do that, see? Check that out. Let me just see, yeah, CGP Grey, we'll go ahead and click on that. So you can see people are uploading some of their back catalog, but it seems to be right now mostly, oh, interesting.

Okay, so I do know that CGP Grey has some involvement with the project. He appears to be listed as a, I don't wanna get the terminology wrong. I wanna say co-founder. One of the big honchos. One of the big cheeses. What is this?

Oh, no, no, no. I don't want contact us. I want about us. Dang it. Yeah, I got it. Cookies. I know, I know. We should send them a message that we're talking about them right now.

Here we go. Here we go. Hold on a second. Yes, community co-founded. Yes, co-founded by Daveave whiskus cgp gray and philip detmer so you can see here that um he's actually got videos on here that this says eight years ago though there's no way they were working on this eight years ago so i had seen one from him that said a year ago and that was the oldest video that i'd seen. But I think that might just be an older video of his

that maybe is from, like, I don't know, Patreon or something like that. Right. Oh. And maybe you can manually key in a date. These are all exclusives? Is that what you're saying? I don't know exactly what they are. So I've only spent a few minutes poking around. I'm not going to actually play any of the content because... We don't want to get in trouble. Go get your own trial. Yeah, like, I'm not trying to actually play any of the content because we don't want to guys go

get your own go get your own trial. Yeah, like I'm not I'm not trying to get in trouble or anything here. But basically, these guys are taking a completely different approach. So they're doing $5 a month that subscribes you to the entire site. Whereas for us, we evaluated the model of a per site subscription and couldn't really find a way to make that make sense. So maybe they've, obviously we're gonna be looking further into what exactly they're doing. So maybe they figured out something that we haven't,

but hopefully that goes really well. So we're doing a per creator subscription, more like what someone like a Patreon is doing. And their other thing is that they're going invite only. So it's supposed to be like a curated list of creators that are kind of educational. And this actually ties in really well with a video that Veritasium released earlier this week

talking about the changes in the YouTube algorithm and how they affect creators. That was a really good video. Did you watch it? Yeah. Oh good, that's good because it was in the writers meeting notes as required viewing. I watched it before you told us to watch it. Did you? Actually. Excellent. Ahead of the curve. So as a recap, Derek from Veritasium basically made a viral video, super viral, 33 million views or something crazy like that. And then a couple days later, did a postmortem on why and how that video went viral and how YouTube's algorithmic, I don't want to call it favoritism but how YouTube's algorithmic tendencies tend to be towards videos that just get an excellent click-through ratio a lot of tiny balls in the thumbnail yeah or just anything else

that's very enticing in the thumbnail because at the end of the day youtube wants to keep people watching on the site as often as possible and for as long as possible that's how google makes money through youtube if the more ads you watch so much the better so he kind of went so here's the thing um your more niche content or your kind of more dry, science-y, boring, explain-y content that gets, you know, 4% of the people who see an impression for it to click on it is just not going to get that prime real estate the way that something more sensational that gets 25% of the people to click on it will. Right. And you can't blame youtube for that they want people to watch videos that's the way that the algorithm decides is uh the best way to serve people the content that they want to watch but it still means that for people who are not um

not able or not willing to engage in the whole um you know, we filled our backyard with Thai Beanie Babies or whatever, like that kind. Which is very interesting. A dump truck of Thai Beanie Babies. From a scientific perspective. Yes, very scientific. How does the, you know, the ragdoll physics and. So people like that are looking for a way

out of the algorithm. And one of the things that watchnebula.com says is there's no algorithm. And that makes sense given that this is... Yeah, given that this is like a curated list of supposed to be educational or intellectual creators for sort of, I don't know, whatever kind of audience would want that sort of thing.

They're anti-algorithm. Yes, they're anti-algorithm. I mean, the cold hard truth is that even if they wanted an algorithm, that's a lot of R&D. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like, we're doing it. It's a choice, okay? We could have had an algorithm.

It's easy. We could have done it. I mean, yeah, it's one of those things where Floatplane is also anti-algorithm, the way that we see it. A creator's page, that's their page. That's not our page to advertise other creators, especially because on Floatplane you're paying per creator, so it's not like you'd be able to watch that other creator anyway. Exactly.

But also the cold hard truth is that even if Floatplane wanted to build a recommended algorithm, we would be a decade away from anything approaching the sophistication of what someone like a YouTube is doing. I could start working on that right now. You got this? Yeah. It's no problem.

I watch the YouTube trending page a bunch. I know how it works. So 225perfect says, Patreon support helps to bypass the algorithm, at least somewhat. That may be the case, but Patreon is always going to be limited. Well, not always.

I mean, they could fix it, I guess. But for now, they're limited in one key way. They don't have a way to economically serve video. They don't have a way to economically serve video on their site. So they're never going to be a one-stop shop. And that was what we identified for Flowplane. And that's what the...

I keep forgetting names. Combined Patreon and a video platform. That's what the Standard Shows team seems to have identified for WatchNebula.com. I see. Where you're going to want a way to both engage with the creator and support them and actually consume the content in one place. So for my part, I wish them the best of luck. I think that there is a ton of room for alternate video platforms. I think that I mean, I also have concerns about fragmentation.

I mean, I also have concerns about fragmentation. I think that's definitely something that stands to become a problem. If this and Flowplane and the one Jordan Peterson is allegedly working on. If there's a bunch of people who see Flowplane and they're like, we should do that. You know, that's a problem. But at least they saw that we were first. Are we? Because it looks like they've saw that we were first. Are we? Because it looks like they've launched before we formally launched.

Wow-wee. You can go sign up for Flowplane right now. That is true. That is true. You can. Yeah, so I don't know. Yeah, it's too bad Luke's not here, because he'd probably be even more angry than I am right now. No, I've talked to him about it already.

And I'm really mad. probably be even more angry than i am right now no no i've talked to him about it already and i'm really mad why are you so determined to be mad about this that's just my instinct i i get defensive you know this is my tribe yeah no it's um you better watch it guys yeah no it's it's a non-issue i mean they're they okay the tech is really different so they're using Amazon AWS for their back-end we've already dug into that they are that one of the key points of differentiation seems to be originals that's not something that's a major focus for floatplane it's more like okay behind the scenes right and early, that's where we kind of see the value.

But the way that I think creators are going to see it is they could use either of these as just like a toolbox of sorts anyway. I suspect that I haven't actually seen their creator agreement, although I'd be fascinated to, obviously. But I suspect they don't lock people into a particular way of using it because they describe themselves as a toolbox the same way that we do. So you could probably upload early access stuff there if you wanted. So our other major point of differentiation is video quality, and that's something where because they're on AWS, they either can't or won't be competitive with YouTube on. So their 1080p is 3 megabit.

Do you have context for that? Okay that's pretty low so to put it in to put it I knew I knew it was probably low yeah YouTube's is somewhere in the neighborhood of I think 8 to 8 if I recall correctly so more than double and it does make a noticeable difference our 1080p is I believe closer to 15 so it's closer to the bitrate of YouTube's 1080 which is why excuse me 4k So that's why I float plane at 1080 looks as good as YouTube at 4k We're actually getting really close to launching 4k for float plane But it's taking some time because we're honestly not quite sure how to roll it out Do you think you can fire up a straw pool for me? I can do that. Okay. Riley's going to fire up a straw pool here.

My electrician's calling. Sorry, Brian. I can't deal with that right now. What are we asking? LOL. We are going to ask people what they want to see from Float Plane's 4K. Because we've had some internal debate about it. So right now, our 720p already looks great

because it's competitive with 1080p bit rates on other sites. But people don't like that. They don't want to click 720p when they have a 1080 screen. Right. Because they feel like they're getting short-changed and they're not having the full experience. Yeah, and you can tell them, 720p is just as good as 1080 all you want or they'll get like they'll be like look i'm having

performance problems because i can run 1080 on netflix and youtube but i can only run 720 on floatplane right be like oh okay um and the thing is you can't explain to everyone in the world the difference between resolution and bit rate or the relationship between resolution and bit rate so your resolution is just how many pixels by how many pixels you could have a 4k resolution image that is at like you know a two kilobit per second bit rate that basically just looks like like kind of shifting colors yeah it looks like nothing like a post modern art project the pixels are, but there's no information. That's the bit rate. Except that which you choose to glean from it.

Yeah. Through interpretation. That could be, wow, that sounds like an art piece. Yeah, we could actually do this. Yeah, modern art museum. LTT gets into art. I know, right? So then on the other side of things,

the bit rate only tells you sort of how much data stream you have to work with. You could have a very high bit rate and a very low resolution, and you reach a point of diminishing returns. Like if you're running at 240p, and then you go to 60 megabit per second. So for context, that's about like an hdr blu-ray

it's still gonna look pixelated and crappy but it's gonna look really a lot better on a 4k screen no it'll look it'll look as good as it could given the limitations of the resolution each one of those pixels will be as good as it could be exactly so you want to find you want to find a balance so anyway we've got this issue with messaging where people get upset because they can't run the same resolution on float plane that they can on other sites. So in order for our 4K to really look a lot better than our 1080p, we're looking at bit rates in the range of 25 to 35 megabit per second. And that's getting close to a 1080p Blu-ray. Now, the problem with that is that even people

with a 50 megabit per second or 100 megabit per second connection to their internet provider might run into problems streaming this because of network overhead, because of nearby neighbors who are busy torrenting the Game of Thrones finale or whatever the case may be. Sure. And their service isn't able to sustain that. Also, sometimes you can run into kind of routing issues

where it kind of goes around or it takes a bunch of jumps. And even though you've got the throughput, your connection quality isn't great. So you end up with buffering or lag. throughput, your connection quality isn't great. So you end up with buffering or lag. And as a young video serving service that's building our own CDN rather than using AWS because otherwise we wouldn't be able to do this really, really high quality, we don't have endpoints like on every block. That's more Netflix's jam once you reach that kind of a scale. Gotcha.

So here's what I want to know. Okay. Everyone out there, not just floatplane peeps, do you want us to A downgrade our 1080p bitrate and then serve a 4k file that is a slightly higher bitrate than YouTube's 4K. Serve higher bitrate 4K. Option number two, leave our 1080p the way that it is, so about equivalent to YouTube's 4K, and then have like a CPU internet connection murdering 4K. Serve way higher bitrate 4K? Yeah, I'm talking like 30 megabitit a second like crazy stupid for internet streaming um i mean those are really the main options because i pitched luke on having

multiple 4k files that we could dynamically switch between so that people could press 4k and feel like they're getting the 4k experience but so that if their internet connection sucked, we'd be able to just switch over to the lower bitrate one. And he was like, what are you trying to do to me? Please. Look, storage is expensive. Do you know how much storage costs? You pay for the storage. Do you really want multiple 4K files per video?

I'm like, okay. So go ahead and create that poll. Like that? Yeah, sure, whatever, that's fine. All right. So create that poll. Like that? Yeah, sure, whatever, that's fine. All right. So create that poll. I want to know what people want to see. I'm going to go ahead and fire up your screen here.

Do you want to post that in the YouTube chat? Do you have the YouTube chat open? Is this the link? I've never actually created a straw poll. You've never created a straw poll before? Is that it? Yeah, throw it in the floatplane chat first, I guess. Oh, no, that's Twitch.

What? I don't have the floatplane. I wasn't signed into floatplane because I'm not signed in on this. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Are you signed into anything? Oh, man. Do I just have to?

Oh, here, I'll put it in the doc, dude. Type this menu. Okay, that works. That works. Where are you putting it? Very top? Very top. Very top.

All right. I will post it in the chat. Boom. It's there. It's taking a hot minute. minute there it goes dang it i pressed refresh on the page right as it as it's popped in here's here's the poll guys in twitch boom all right so that's luke here's my floatplane chat i'm'm Luke on Twitch. Boom. All right. Oh, I see an interesting suggestion in floatplane chat already.

How about this? How about you stream at sort of the better but not ridiculous quality, but then have the download be available in murderous quality? quality okay so that doesn't get around lug's concern that we are still outputting multiple 4k files for every upload but i will consider it it's just that like i said storage is really really expensive um yeah How about Kodak? H265 and VP9 are quite a bit more efficient. Yes, that is a good suggestion. But unfortunately, it's challenging.

Hudson Toady says, why not have a variable bit rate on the fly instead of different files? That's complicated. Don't make me get started on that. That's like really, really complicated. Look, like we're hiring more people, but we would need a lot of stuff for that. All right.

So I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to load up the results here, and we can have a look. Seems like most people want us to leave 1080p as is. And just murder their connections okay well it looks like that's the way we're going then why would you want i mean most people are going to be watching in 1080p no they won't i think most people just click highest quality well that must be the highest quality one yeah and then if they get stuttering then i feel like they're going to be unhappy. I mean, for me, when I'm on YouTube or anywhere, I only go to up the quality when I think that the quality visibly looks not good enough.

Like on YouTube, if I'm like, this looks a little blurry, then I'll go to the quality and check. That's an interesting perspective. I used to go, I think when 4K first came out on YouTube, I used to go click on 4K because I wanted the highest quality every time. But now... I think they also never defaulted to 4K back when 4k first came out on youtube I used to go click on 4k because I wanted the highest quality every time but now I think they also never defaulted to 4k back when they first rolled it out right well actually I think if you uploaded in 4k I'm not sure I think it kind of intelligent intelligently scaled based on like what you were watching I think it really depended I think at that time they didn't just automatically set people's playback to 4k because just the average computer was much slower. So the landscape has changed a fair bit now and

YouTube does automatically select 4k when it notices you have a screen resolution and a connection that can handle it just fine. I see. I mean, another option is always going the Netflix route where they just don't give you the choice. It just is whatever. It is what it is. Yeah. Enjoy. Go watch some Crave. Or don't enjoy.

Yeah, exactly. Or not Crave. Crave. We have Crave up here in Canada. In the States, it's... Do they have Crave in the States? No, it's HBO Now or... Because Crave is like HBO Showtime and...

Anyways, whatever, guys. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it, guys. Hey, should we talk about, like, news? This is news. Oh. Well, yeah. You don't think standard and...

No, I think it's important. Nebula is news? I always forget that, you know, WAN Show is more kind of just about, like, we're just chilling. No, WAN Show is about the news. It is. So why don't we talk about YouTube changing the subscriber counter.

Now, I know this is something that you feel quite passionately about. This was posted by TechDreamer on the forum. I'm just going to go ahead and bring up that thread. And it is obviously a very polarizing topic. Oh, subscribe negative one. Yeah. That's funny. No. Well, here's funny. No.

Well, here's some behind the scenes. Before we started the show, I was kind of like, oh, this doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me. And Linus was like, what? That's not what I said. That was a perfect impression. That is not what I sounded like. I sounded quite different from that.

Okay. So in a nutshell, do you want to explain what's happening? Well, I don't actually entirely know what's happening, but I can try. Wait, I'll tell you what's happening. All right, tell me what's happening. So YouTube appears to be changing the way that they're displaying subscriber counts.

You can see it in the GIF that's on screen right now. They're basically going to start rounding it. They've been doing it for some creators. If you go on YouTube, you've been able to see this already happening, but now it's going to be kind of standard procedure for them to round to like the nearest, whatever it is. They actually give some examples, I think, in this post. And they've always done it in some places. Like for example, actually, I'm going to pop out of this now and I'm going to jump into my own youtube dashboard here for a second and yes it's gif guys linus has gif too don't get at me why are you why are you throwing me

under the same bus you can say gif if you want i have no problems no i'm i'm a gif person i grew up saying gif all right that's what i this is what i am but did you yeah really i never said gif oh see last time i saw it it it was GIF. And then when I heard somebody say GIF the first time, I was like, what? But now I've learned to accept it. I'm like, hey, you know what? You want to say GIF? Fine. You want to say GIF? It's fine. I say GIF. See, I only switched over when the creator came out and said that it really it was it was jif not gif that was just a bonus for me and uh no no yeah i so and then everyone got all mad about that so just to be a troll i started doing it because i've noticed you said it in like the in the in the weekly meetings yeah because i

didn't know you said it until like uh a couple weeks ago or something you said it for the first time i was like no i did switch over like we had an argument with it in my carpool oh who's in who are the wrong people in your carpool james david oh lloyd no yeah it's a it's a gif and you display them on your giraffics card oh you're just doing it to be rude no No, not at all. I'm just out here trying to be a good person. No, no, no, no. Jif, jif. Okay, anyway.

I can't find it. Yeah, I was looking for a spot where, you know what? It might be on mobile. Oh, here we go. If a channel has 4,227 subscribers, the public subscriber count will read 4.2K. Yeah. subscriber count will read 4.2k yeah so basically just gets rid of the last you know two or three or four uh digits based on you know whether you're in the thousands or the tens of thousands or the millions yes now the one exception to this is channels that are under a thousand subscribers

those ones will still display with complete granularity because the rationale behind this change, which is actually what I find most obnoxious, like none of the rest of this stuff really matters to me, the rationale behind it is that what they're trying to prevent is dislike bombing or excuse me, unsubscribe bombing. Right. So there was a recent controversy between... Toddy versus James Charles. me unsubscribe bombing right so there was a recent controversy between versus James Charles two people about whom I know and care nothing quite frankly I

don't really know anything about them except their names they they I read up people I read one article on a particularly vapid site and it told me everything I need to know about not needing to know anything about any of this. But basically what happened was there was some sort of like, oh no, they didn't drama on YouTube. And one of these people, I don't even know which one, don't clarify it for me. I really don't care. James Charles is a bad guy.

I don't care. Tati is the good guy. Girl. Person. What? it for me I really James Charles is don't care toddy is the good guy girl person what okay we're getting in trouble for that no no no just I I'm just joking you know what it doesn't matter the point is the point is one of them I think lost like two million subscribers or something like that over a very short period of time yeah and so what youtube is trying to do is remove the um the instant gratification that people get oh you thought i was being weird when i say good guy no toddy is the girl i don't know just to clarify i don't know these are just yeah yeah no toddy is a random assembly of characters. Right. It's not. Gotcha. That's not even a name.

Toddy. Okay. Sorry. I interrupted you. Okay. So what they're trying to prevent is people unsubscribe bombing and getting that instant gratification of seeing the subscriber number go down. And then news outlets start jumping in and reporting on this and going, they lost 100,000 subscribers.

And that just feeds. And it's all over. And then it becomes this negative feedback loop. And at the end of the day, YouTube doesn't want people unsubscribing. Right. They don't want people to stop watching. Yeah, they don't want that. Even if they're unsubscribing from somebody and subscribing to another person.

Well, maybe that's a neutral. But from my perspective, removing this sort of insight that we have into how the platform is operating is really frustrating and just makes our jobs more difficult. So one of the things that, one of the tools that... You don't like that YouTube is telling us about this no what i don't like is that youtube is removing yet another piece of bloody information that we have ah so as well as a public because the creators themselves still have the access to how many specific subscribers that they have themselves yes okay so just to be clear i still get an accurate subscriber count within my dashboard right but you guys will not be able to see exactly how many subscribers i have at linus tech tips now the thing is there are third-party sites

like socialblade.com that allow creators to keep tabs on how the platform is doing overall so we can track how many views other creators are getting. We can track how many subscribers they are gaining or losing. And it's a really valuable tool for figuring out what the overall trends are on the YouTube platform without relying on useless tools like the YouTube trending tab, which is useless. You know how I know it's useless?

Because of how many of my videos end up in it that honestly aren't doing very well. Like I shouldn't be trending. This is clearly not trending. I don't know how you define trending. I just watched an interesting video about the trending tab today, which was saying that in Canada here,

if you're on the Canadian version of YouTube, the trending page is completely different than it is in the US. I didn't know this. Sure is. It's all like traditional media on the, it was a video by Coffee Break, if you guys know who that is, but it's all like traditional media, like late night talk shows and like real news outlets and stuff on the trending page. And in Canada, we go down, it's all YouTubers. Yeah. Yeah. It's totally different. So whenever I'm down in the States, I do notice that.

The other funny thing is my Creator Studio app gives me a notification every time I hit trending. So when I'm in Canada, like every other day, I get a stupid, you're trending, let your audience know notification. But I'm on Canada trending which is utterly right whereas us trending I think might actually matter a little bit I wonder if like I guess wait they know we're yeah they know no you're getting a

notification because you're in Canada yes but also I think we get served to Canadian trending a lot because we're Canadian now YouTube has told me straight up to my face that it doesn't matter where you geographically upload from in terms of how the algorithm serves it. But it might not matter to them but maybe the algorithm has some subtle biases. But I don't buy it because it's like when's the last time I got a recommendation for a technical Guruji video? Never? Yeah well I couldn't answer that question. Yeah well when's the last time I got a recommendation for a technical Guruji video? Never?

Yeah, well, I couldn't answer that question. Yeah. Well, when's the last time you got a recommendation for a technical Guruji video? I don't know who that is. Exactly. He's only huge with over 10 million subscribers in the tech vertical. I'm looking up who it is right now. But obviously, because he doesn't speak English and he's located in... Okay, I don't feel bad. He's based out of Dubai. Yeah. He's based out of Dubai. Obviously those videos don't get

served to me. Right. Now. Okay. That one's in a different language. That's a very extreme example, but I still don't believe that it doesn't matter at all. The Social Blade thing is extremely interesting. Yeah. I forgot about that because Social Blade takes advantage of the publicly available statistics that are there and now they won't have access to that. So we can't even go to like, we can't even stalk other channels. Now, it doesn't appear to be one of my favorite things to do. It doesn't appear to be confirmed whether Social Blade will be affected because Social

Blade is hooked into YouTube's API rather than just screen scraping the data off of the site but my strong suspicion is that if they're trying to prevent you know news outlets from reporting on unsubscription bombing they're going to remove this data from the API as well. Has SocialBlade said anything about that? Yes, they have, actually. I believe the latest statement is that they don't know how it's going to affect them. Okay, because has it rolled out completely yet? No, it doesn't roll out until sometime in August, if I recall correctly.

I just got signed out of the doc, so... Moving later this year, it says. Yeah, I think it's August. Okay. Huh. Yeah, I think it's August. Okay. Huh.

Effective August. Okay, yeah. We'll make this more consistent by always showing abbreviated sub counts publicly. So Social Blade said, upon closer look, it may affect our data display, by always showing abbreviated sub counts publicly. So Social Blade said, upon closer look, it may affect our data display, but only time will tell. So. Yeah, that's okay, now I'm with you, I'm against it. I'm against it, this is bad.

You know what else is bad? I'm upset, you know what isn't bad? Oh, I was gonna say this segue to our sponsor. Yeah, well that's why I was helping you. Oh, I see. You said what isn't bad? Oh, I was going to say this segue to our sponsor. Yeah, well, that's why I was helping you. Oh, I see. You said what is bad, and I was like, that's not a... My segue was going to be bad. Oh.

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Oh, 5G could break weather forecasting. I had not heard about this. Yeah, I had seen like a reference to it in a couple of stories before, but apparently it's like, it's actually kind of a problem. And it's also a problem because all of these companies are racing

to get to 5G first. And we're not really taking the time to realize like, or to explore what problems this could cause. So there's no calm before this storm. Hey! Hits us that we didn't see coming. like or to explore what problems this so there's no calm before this storm Hits us that we didn't see coming the storm of great data speeds the storm of actual Like debris in the air real storms. We didn't see it coming So NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric

Administration have been sounding the alarm that the wireless spectrum used for 5G networks could interfere with data collection that is used in weather forecasting. Now, I don't know if you've noticed this. I certainly have. But weather forecasts are sure a heck of a lot more accurate now than they were when I was a kid. Are they? I mean, back then, the joke used to basically be that the weatherman was like, and remember, this was back then, so it was a weatherman. Not anymore. Now it's the weather reporter? What is the gender neutral weather... Meteorologist.

Sure. So anyway, back then, the joke was that just like, you know, before the news started, the weatherman would take a dart and throw it at a thing, and then that was the weather forecast. before the news started, the weatherman would take a dart and throw it at a thing, and then that was the weather forecast. Because, honestly, back in the late 80s, early 90s, they didn't have the kind of big data that they do now and the kinds of supercomputer-generated weather models that we rely on now. In full 3D with ray tracing.

Yeah, so if there was a hurricane approaching the coast, they could be like, yeah, there's a hurricane a-coming. Yeah, but now we can do facial recognition on it. Now we can do, yeah, that's Hurricane Jemima. We know. Well, nowadays they'll be like, yeah, it's going to rain for a few hours in the afternoon and then it's probably going to be sunny after that. It's like, no, no, that wasn't the thing.

That wasn't the thing at all. I didn't check the weather when I was a kid like so i can't really do that kind of correct or direct comparison i feel like it's probably because you didn't read the newspaper well i read the i read the comics yeah me too that was all i read i was just messing with you so on thursday noah's acting chief neil jaco Jacobs, testified on Capitol Hill that the interference from new 5G wireless radios could reduce the accuracy of weather forecasting by as much as 30%. That's a significant chunk. He said this would result in coastal residents getting two to three fewer days to prepare for a hurricane. Ugh.

Now, how does that make sense? I mean, surely like hurricanes that are two to three days away, you can collect data like way out there where there's not a lot of 5G signal. Well, I mean, maybe if it's close to the coast, you know, you don't know whether it'll be a hurricane or not. And this could lead to less accurate predictions about where these major storms are going to make landfall. Such errors in these predictions could cost people their lives, he warned. At the cost of, also we could have faster data speeds. Right. Is it worth it?

The FCC began auctioning off the 24 gigahertz spectrum in March to wireless carriers who plan to use it for new 5G networks. And earlier this week, Democratic senators wrote a letter to the FCC asking that the agency refrain from issuing the licenses to auction winners until a solution can be found. You want to throw up the source? People are asking for it. Oh, yeah, sorry. The source is CNET and The Verge. You know what? We're gonna go with CNET. What? No, I was just, it was a joke. I'm not biased. It's just, mmm. It's just, no, I don't want your notifications though. Um, oh man. Stop that autoplay video, see? It's just... It's just... No, I don't want your notifications, though.

Oh, man. Stop that autoplay video. See? Wait, no! I like seeing it. Stop! The autoplaying videos, you know? Stop! Man, space footage of storms is amazing.

All inspiring. It looks delicious. You know what's weird, though, is it really looks round from here. The Earth? Yeah! Were you... That's weird, though, is it really looks round from here. The Earth? Yeah. That's weird. Were you a flat- Oh, no, you know what it is?

You a flat-earther dude? You know what it is? Uh-oh. Is it's- See, I always thought that it was a rectangle, right? Because the map on the wall in school. Uh-huh. But actually, it's more of a pancake.

That's why it looks round i have no idea what you're talking about i'm just kidding wait i need you to explain to me what you're talking about now uh no i was pretending to be a flatterer okay gotcha i was just messing with you so you know how sometimes you'll pretend to be offended so well that people think you're actually offended. Sometimes I'll pretend to be an idiot so effectively that people think I'm actually an idiot. That's my whole life. Wow, this WAN show just got really real. 5G though. Anyway, so the 24 gigahertz frequency band is really close to the 23.8 gigahertz that noah uses to collect data for weather prediction and the concern is that they will interfere with the

sensitive sensors on satellites that are monitoring atmospheric conditions okay so that explains it so if we're talking about satellites and just like general noise and interference this is kind of like you know a bunch of people getting on their 5G phone and playing some PUBG all at once could result in kind of the weather monitoring equivalent of someone flipping on a microwave when you're trying to

stream Netflix on a 2.4 gigahertz network. Right. Now I thought the whole thing with 5G was that it's short range. I guess in cities maybe it's more of an issue where, like, it'll be blocked by things. Well, remember, too, though, that regardless of frequency, if you focus the signal enough, you can get incredible range.

Like, 2.4 gigahertz Wi-Fi can be used over many kilometers if you have a point-to-point dish setup. Right. So without really deep knowledge of how the weather collection apparatus works, we can't say for certain what its range might be. So one suggestion has been that we could turn down the power emitted by 5G wireless radios to help prevent some of this interference, but obviously if you turn down the power emitted by the wireless network, you're going to interfere with its range,

which obviously the wireless carriers, who just spent a lot of money for this spectrum, are not going to be super stoked about. Now, I wonder how much of this is, because most of the 5G deployment that we've seen so far is in cities, right? Where it's like, you know, there's a node on the corner of a building or something that'll cover a certain area like we can be fairly one block yeah and we can be fairly certain that that's not going to like escape out and and interfere with something or maybe it will

i don't know but i don't know i feel like i've seen a lot of talk about trying to build out an entire 5g network that has the same kind of coverage as 4G or LTE. But I don't think. I call BS on that basically. Yeah, it doesn't seem like that will be a possible or desirable if this is true. Yeah, I think we've got to chalk that up to typical wireless carrier nonsense.

I mean, you look at like the Canadian carriers, oh, coast to coast coverage. And it's like. Yeah, they mean coast to coast coast like if you're in a major city here let's have a look at let's have a look at the rogers coverage map uh oh rogers oh you guys are adorable um yeah i mean if they can barely get out stay connected with Rogers Wireless 5g blah blah blah Yeah, so Canada's pretty big country and Oh my gosh BC so bad. Yeah, the white parts are not covered only the yellow parts are covered

So it's like yeah the important areas like Toronto the center the center of Canada. Yeah You know newsflash the center of Canada is more like here. Right. In northern Manitoba. We should be paying more attention to Manitoba. Yeah. You know, hey, Manitobans in the chat, represent. If you're in rural Quebec, you are like, you better hope you have a landline because you certainly don't have wireless coverage.

Actually, no, Rogers is particularly bad back east. What frequency spectrum is 5G going to operate in? 24 gigahertz. Yes. We've got another topic. Now you really wanted to talk about this. Let's go ahead and fire up the video. What did I wanna talk about?

Oh, super? You wanted to talk about this. Well. No, you wanted to talk about it. I'm gonna let you talk about it. So this is Nvidia's teaser video. This could be an Uber card. Uber means super. Did you know?

I don't know what you're talking about. It's German. Oh, no. Okay, yes. Uber. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not Uber like the cars. All right, all right, all right.

We have no idea what that's going to be. It's a cryptic tweet talking about some kind of product that has super in the name or on the physical product or something. You said you wanted to speculate. I did not say that. But we can speculate. All right. You go first. It's probably a graphics card.

So it was posted. Super powered RTX 2080 Ti. It was posted from the GeForce geforce account yes which would suggest that it has something to do with pc gaming however new shield super shield that's actually i think super soldier serum shields there's gonna be a but you know like uh captain america captain america's got the super soldier serum yeah yeah, yeah. You know about that. It's been a while. Yeah, so they're going to have a shield.

Nvidia shield. Wait, they also have shield in Marvel. Yeah. Is that where you're going with this? No, I'm talking about Nvidia shield. This is a different shield. The Android TV. It's a shield. Okay, are there Nazis?

And it's got super. I don't know. I hope not. Okay. Here's my prediction. Yep. It's not a new product at all. Hold on. I'm going to bring up the video again real quick here. Uh-oh. Okay. Here's my prediction. Yep. It's not a new product at all. Hold on, I'm gonna bring up the video again real quick here.

Uh oh. Okay, not a new product at all. And you know too because you have inside information. But rather, yeah, everyone knows Linus Media Group is wholly owned by NVIDIA. This is our parent company. Yeah, so you're an NVIDIA employee. There's a shocking number of people

who actually seem to believe that. Yeah. Okay, so look at this, look look at this hold on hold on i think that this is an an intentional typo and that this is going to be a collaboration with supreme with the see see do you get a supreme vibe from that that's the that's a different font hold on hold on is it that different? Okay? Hold on hold on We're gonna switch Where is it where okay here? We go here? We go to my tabs dude, so that is supreme oh crap super

Supreme Linus okay, they're pretty different font is serif one is sans serif I'm going gravy. I'm going with Super Eem graphics card. Superest. Super E. It's pretty Super E. Super Eem. I don't think so.

I saw a couple people online saying that it's got a collaboration with Supreme. I don't think so. I mean, James says, what could it be though? Software? I mean, we know AMD is probably going to launch new GPUs. We've had a leak about Navi GPUs. So they're probably going to talk about those at Computex.

So NVIDIA probably posted this to steal some of their thunder. And it's, I mean, my best i'm i don't put money on things but if i did i would probably say that it's some sort of supercharged rtx 2080 ti because there's already a titan rtx so the last time nvidia used super in their branding and i'm not talking about oh evga about EVGA with their super overclocked cards was super phones. This was back in 2012, 2013. So here's a CNET video about an Nvidia super phone. I remember them actually bringing one to our office at NCIX. Is this like the... Oh right, because they were like, okay this we've had the smartphone now it's the time for the next evolution. The SuperPhone. The SuperPhone.

Yes. Oh, man, forget it. We're not doing this. Ads. Okay, whatever. Anyway, the point was they were going to put their Tegra processors in phones. Right. And their Tegra processors weren't particularly amazing on the CPU side of things,

but they had NVIDIA graphics technology in them, so they were going to be great for gaming. Right. And Super Phones, I believe, a couple of phones did actually end up getting at least announced with Tegra processors in them, but then it never went anywhere. Like, it was a complete dead end. The iPhone was just completely dominant at that time.

Yeah, this is way back. That's like the year that i started uh all this stuff so i and it was it was dead by 2013 it was like a 2012 kind of kind of thing that they were talking about so that to me might suggest that if they wanted like a super tablet that might be something to do with it oh maybe this is the because we've had a couple leaks and rumors this year about a new shield gaming yeah portable device so maybe it's a refresh to shield based on like their super what a dumb name though super super shield i mean is it any is it that's what well that's why i was like oh if it's a graphics card i can see that because like

what else you know they've got the tis they've got the scs they got the ocs like how many how many more things can we put on to on the end of gpu names super is like super edition i'm like okay it's a weird adjective is it any dumber than like is it any dumber than captain america that was a joke with his super serum or whatever like no no captain america is not a joke don't you it's a very serious character i agree i was just gonna say don't you badmouth captain america i just mean is it any dumber than that he's a hero is it any dumber than batman like we but wow so it from my perspective, the validity of a, of a brand really comes from how good the product is rather than the other way around. Right.

It's not like you decide that a product is good based on hearing the name that makes you feel like. I can decide that the product name's dumb without knowing what the product is. Right. But over time I postulate. That postulate that you will accept it. Yeah. I bet you've accepted what a stupid name Kijiji is now. I've never used Kijiji, and I still think it's dumb.

Okay, what about iPad? Have you accepted iPad? I mean, I accept it as a fact of life. We all thought it sounded like feminine hygiene products at the time. When's the last time you thought of that? Okay, how about this? Do you accept how Apple refers to its products without articles? Like they don't say the MacBook Pro, a MacBook Pro.

No, I actually do not accept that. Okay, well, here we go. iPhone is an amazing experience. iPhone is not a proper noun, Apple. This 8-core processor, we didn't even talk about that, but this eight-core processor makes MacBook Pro the world's best MacBook. Makes the MacBook Pro? Okay, we should probably talk about that because that was sort of the, okay.

So what do I call it then? New MacBook Pro. If I can't say the, I'm stuck. MacBook Pro with the type of display it has, 2019. That's stupid. They should really start getting creative again, you know? Yeah. Like, go through.

How about Super MacBook Pro? Super Book Mac Edition. Super Book. Well, Intel has their muscle books. Oh, yeah. That's going to be great. Okay, that's a name I decided was stupid and that i wouldn't like the product before it ever before it ever actually happened okay so like muscle book apple released

a new macbook pro with intel's new eight core core i9 processor this is a crazy freaking mobile chip it's not in here don't worry about it and our immediate reaction to this device was that if apple couldn't manage to tame the six core core i9 that was in the last generation macbook oh right because that was the one that overheated it was a six core yeah that was the one that had the whole scandal around it where they didn't have the um basically the allowances in their software to let the CPU just go to 100, 105 degrees without throttling. So it was turning down. It was not performing the way it was supposed to, even underperforming the quad core variant that had come before it. But they, wait, they released an update, right?

They released an update that fixed it in macOS, but not in Windows. update right they released an update that fixed it in mac os but not in windows because at the end of the day what they were doing was they were like kind of playing around with the power states and playing around with the thermal threshold to allow it to not drop below its base clock but it was i mean it's cooking in there yeah it's absolutely cooking in there so we speculated that the new ac core MacBook Pro Was not going to be a better situation for sure so we figured it was going to thermal throttle now Quinn from snazzy labs has already posted on Twitter that it doesn't thermal throttle. He says it just Manages to maintain its base clock however. I think you guys can always expect to get the the non

The non Apple point of view from us. So we definitely have one on the way. It's already been ordered Are you messaging me right now? Is that why don't you just come in and? Talk to me. Oh man Yeah, you want to stop that um like you had such a great rant going oh yeah i didn't want to stop that um okay whatever the point is you can always expect the um the alternate side of the coin from us so we are going to be addressing some of the criticisms of our last video about apple's thermal throttling in our review of the macbook Pro 8 Core 2019 mid retina, whatever the stupid thing is called. So stay tuned because from my perspective,

there's a lot of different ways to define thermal throttling. So thermal, okay, so you can say if it doesn't go below its base clock, it didn't thermal throttle. That's one way of defining it. That's correct You can also say you got your one word thermal Okay, so it's heat. Yeah, you got your other word Throttle which is like a car. Yeah, okay

so Anything other than the best that it could possibly perform, you could make the argument, is throttling. Now, the base clock is not the same thing as the all-core boost. So even if the laptop is maintaining its base clock per Intel spec, so that's what Intel rates it for with its TDP, like its thermal rating rating that doesn't mean that if that chip didn't have a better cooling solution it couldn't perform a lot better sure so all core boost is what intel rates the chip to clock up to assuming the power and thermal overhead is available for it to turn itself up so So these, I wonder if, does Mac, does Apple have like a specific list?

Like, do they say this is the base clock? This is the boost clock? They only advertise boost, if I recall correctly. They only advertise boost clock. A lot of manufacturers do that. And we criticized Apple for it and people were like, well, yeah, but what about? And so in our video, we're going to make a point of also criticizing other manufacturers for it because it's stupid regardless of who does it.

Because we talk about Apple a lot, but I'm sure a lot of these other Windows laptops with heat intensive processors also don't get all the way up to their boost clocks all the time. So the thing that bothers me particularly about Apple is, and Quinn actually talked about this in his tweets, they advertise a boost clock

that that chip is just never going to see. Apple does. Yeah. Right. Because they advertise a boost clock, but he's saying that it doesn't even, barely gets past the base clock. So the maximum boost clock is based on a single core

or a two core load. And the base clock is based on a single core or a two core load and the base clock is based on the minimum that it should run at at that thermal rating that intel assigns to the processor for all cores being loaded so they're completely different measures um but what he said was that it manages to maintain base clock in an all core load and he didn't manage to see it hit its maximum advertised boost clock pretty much at all. But if it works fine, and if you can go in GarageBand and make your little songs, then what's the difference? You know?

I'm going to move on to Super Ch super chats because i'd rather talk to someone else hey at least we'll remember to do it this time yeah well come on richard lehman says love your channel it's given me many ideas for my new computer nice no problem richard carlos says nothing love you carlos two bucks uh tommy gun 1928 were you born in 1928 i thought that was the question we don't have a lot of uh we don't have a lot of elderly viewers but tommy gun all right hey linus what laptop are you using during when um this is an hp something elite book of some sort i don't know it's not great it a fancy laptop. I'm not going to recommend it. Giovanni Giorgio.

Oh, I daily drive a Razer Blade Stealth, but I don't know if I'm going to recommend that either because it's the old one, not the new one. I don't really like the new one that much. I need to find a new laptop that is like my go-to. I use the LG Gram 17. That one's pretty cool. I really wish it had a touchscreen. Yeah.

I'd be super into it if it had a touchscreen. That's true. I'd be like, Riley, that's my gram now. Sorry. You could, that's fine. Eric, thoughts on Thunderbolt 3 for phones? I don't really have any. It sounds like unnecessary power consumption to me.

I don't know what you'd do with it. Yeah, I don't know why you would, I mean, unless you want to use your phone as like a super powered flash drive or something. USB 3 Type type C already has Many many of the benefits of a Thunderbolt 3 port like if you wanted to run an external display and some peripherals or whatever You can already do that So maybe that'll be important if when Android Q comes out because it might have a desktop mode

Even then you could use type C for that. Yeah, do your display and your peripherals your networking? It's a like this right here is not a Thunderbolt dongle Even then, you could use Type-C for that. You do your display and your peripherals, your networking. Like this right here is not a Thunderbolt dongle. It's just a USB Type-C dongle. You've got your HDMI. You've got your three USB ports. You've got your power pass-through. You've got your gigabit LAN.

You've got your microSD and your SD card reader. This is all I could possibly want on a phone. And it's pink. And it's pink, isn't it? So that's fun. Yeah, I like it um rose gold excuse me sorry sorry uh jeremy says youtube premium gave me a free super chat to send yay thanks um benny says uh what do you think the best monitor is i think the best monitor is coming and i need to

make sure it's not under embargo before i tell you guys what it's going to be. One moment, please. The best monitor, like, out of every single option there is? That's a bold claim to try and make. I'm going for gaming, just because that's, like, what I assume they're asking. That 4K, 144 hertz hertz G-Sync. Is this embargoed? It doesn't say anything about an embargo, so I'm going with it. Asus has their PG35VQ coming.

So it's a 3440 by 1440 ultrawide that does 200 hertz and has, like, I don't know, a bunch of dimming zones and HDR up the butt and all that good stuff. 200 Hertz? I'm finally getting an upgrade for my Predator X34. It's going to be bigger. Can I have it? It's going to be badder.

You already have one on your desk up there. I know better than to ask these things on the WAN show. Jamaican says, Hi, Riley. What's up, dude? Mikel, yeah, he can't respond, so I don't know. I'm just saying, what's up? Mikel says,

Quick question. My computer will be an idle while the mother is on or off. The computer will start revving really hard and the only way I can get it back to work again is if I do a hard reset. Have you ever experienced this problem? My computer will be in idle while the mother is on

or off the computer. We'll start revving really hard. I do a hard reset. No. I've not experienced that problem. Hey, check, post it in the forum. Yeah, that would be a really good idea. Post it on the linus-techtips.com forum.

Other side guy says, collab with Mighty Car Mods when? I'm, Alex would die. He would love it. Yeah, I'd be pretty sick actually. Andrew says, my girlfriend won't let me buy LTT shirts, saying I have too many. Look at this. Are you looking into making other LTT apparel

such as pants, socks, and beanies? Well, this is another shirt. That's another shirt. That's our new CPU design. Yeah. We also have the water bottles back in stock, lttstore.com. We have hats.

We got hats, dude. We're going to have boxers soon. Can you see the logo on it? You know about the boxers, right? I do. Have you seen them? No, I haven't seen them. Oh, they're sick.

Do I have them on me? Oh, we have a thing. We have a box full of, I was supposed to talk about this. I about this i'm gonna get in trouble no the boxers aren't in here um yeah boxers aren't in there velcro straps ties uh jonathan says why not 1440p next that is actually a most excellent idea we could do that on floatplane it still wouldn't address people being upset that well my 4k works yeah if you got a 4k monitor you're gonna be like 40 40p michael says go with super quality but just call it low medium high and ultra oh huh so we could take like uh like uh um but that's deceitful what is it it? Duke Nukem or whatever? Where you've just got like...

Instead of low, medium, high, you've got like, hurt me plenty. And like, kind of... Yeah, yeah, yeah. False advertising, I think it's called. It burns my pee, you know? Okay. You shouldn't say that on the show, dude.

That's private. Riley doesn't know. What are the odds? I feel like if we had looked at that at the time... Never tell me the odds. It might have made more sense. Jif is for the uncultured. Do you have a response?

I have no response. Says Ryu. What happened in your life that you want to be mean to people like that? That's my response. Joe Scalin says, Many US carriers limit to 1.5 megabit that's my response joe scalen says many u.s carriers limit to 1.5 megabit per second yeah we have separate files for mobile don't worry it's okay um chris says have you tried the quest what do you think are we gonna try it i honestly didn't care everyone's saying it's really good and i know that we don't do that much vr stuff anymore

and i'm not gonna say let's do vr stuff but it seems like everyone that we don't do that much vr stuff anymore and i'm not gonna say let's do vr stuff but it seems like everyone loves it don't do a ton of mobile vr stuff because it's apparently it's really good all right fine you're on it nice that's your next assignment okay riley's on it sick dude can you add it to trello all right right now do it i'm not signed in to anything so i can't, but. Zion says, GeForce experience with ray tracing update for superior performance. Look at the light shading and rendering in the teaser. I think Nvidia makes all their teasers look sexy

regardless of what the tech is. Oh, he's saying the super, wait, what? So it's gonna be, he's saying that it's gonna be, super is going to be an update to ray tracing? Yeah, I kinda doubt it. it maybe here's another one here's the money i got from buying uh youtube red says kian nice tech support says super is a dumb name but so is linus tech tips i don't even disagree d says cory lol you don't know I just tried it tonight. I'm waiting. So now, wait, people are sending super chats to talk to other people in the chat?

Okay, I'm waiting for the marriage proposal then. Oh, man. I've seen you in the super chats. It's like a personal class. What do you call those? The personals? Yeah, I think that's pretty. In newspapers? Classifieds?

Classifieds. No. No, that's. Personals. Personals. Yeah. Like, I saw that's pretty classifieds classifieds. No, no, that's personal personal. Yeah, like I saw you on the bus What let's get a coffee? Tejas says Apple mentions both base and boost clock so For the video we're gonna go through we're gonna research it thoroughly. Don't worry. We're gonna have some fun with it Speaking of having fun. It's time for me to go home and have some fun packing yeah go to that computex taiwan yeah how did you get out of it uh i thought we were gonna send you

for quick yeah i think i made a argument that it might not be worth it well right and then it was gonna cost me like a couple grand to send you there yeah and i'll probably just end up kind of like doing the same thing that i do here mostly anyway. So maybe the next event. But like it's a one day. The thing is it's a one day production cycle. So it's like it's hard to do any time you're on an event. I've gone to many events and done TechLink now. I know what I'm in for.

Yeah, there's apparently going to be some hardware announcements, but we'll see. Maybe a new Xbox. You want to go to E3? We talked about this we also know that there's like switch refreshes supposedly coming sony announced the playstation 5 yeah but they're not going to reveal that until switch i think is coming after e3 and xbox might be coming at e3 which one is it sony that for the first time ever isn't going to have an e3 presence at all yes yeah okay so they're not going to be there definitely not doing it then again maybe they'll maybe they'll throw their own e3 down the street i think they did that that's like the pettiest thing ever i still remember when nvidia launched g-sync amd had their own event literally

at the hotel down the street and they were like did they even have free sync yet no they're just like look we got stuff no they were just like here look at this graphics card yeah and because everyone had traveled there on nvidia's dime it was like right really kind of rude but then nvidia was super petty about it now i haven't verified this so it might not be true but i heard other editors telling me that nvidia had someone outside the hotel watching who was leaving to go to the AMD thing or not. It's amazing. It's amazing.

You would think these are, like, adults. I mean, I don't know. It's fair enough. AMD also, like, named their products, like, you know, the X399 and stuff. Yeah, Ryzen 3, 5, and 7. And they might be naming their new GPUs. Have you seen this? The RX 3080.

Really? And the RX 3080. Really? And the RX 3070. They might. They might. That's the rumor. I hope not because they already created enough trouble when they called Threadripper's chips at X399. Right. Because Intel's was X299.

But then X299 was stupid because they went from X58 to X... Okay, so hold on. Let's go way back. You've got your X38, your X48, from X58 to X... Okay, so hold on. Let's go way back. You got your X38, your X48, your X58. So there's a bit of a pattern here. X68, nowhere to be seen. You got your X79. Oh, yeah.

Okay. And then from there, they went to... Then no X89. We went to... X99. X99. Yeah. Then we just arbitrarily went to X299.

Instead of like X119 or something. So maybe Intel's plan is to go X499 and leapfrog AMD? I don't know. They're children. Everyone is children. Yeah, it's dumb. If there's anything I've learned in life, it's that you're born.

You're born. You grow up. You go to elementary school. Yeah. And that's it. And then it's just from there on, you become a bigger fourth grader. it's just from there on, you get your, yeah, you become a bigger fourth grader.

That's the amount of maturity that you reach. And that's if you're lying. And that's the way I like it. All right. So tune in next week. Same bad time. Same bad channel. I will be in Taiwan.

So I don't know who's going to be hosting it, but it'll be someone cool. Maybe Riley. Cause he's not going. Wancho. Yeah. Oh yeah. Maybe.

See you guys. See you later. And you got to make sure that you hit the right button. Yeah. Wancho? Yeah, Wancho. Oh yeah, maybe. See you guys! See you later! And you gotta make sure that you hit the right button. Yeah, yeah. When you end it? Yeah, yeah, no, no, I already changed the default behavior. Wait, no, no, no, on, in this one, in this one.

I pressed. Oh no, I know how to do that. Yeah, well that's what I did wrong last time. That's a non-issue. Yeah, see I'm you in this, I dropped the couch first. Yeah, there was another problem last time actually. It was that, Oh, the sponsors were?

No, no, not that. There was another more different problem. It was actually that this button, make archive unlisted when complete, was checked by default for a while. Oh.