The WAN Show - Why do People Hate Technology?... - WAN Show April 10, 2020

Episode Date: April 11, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You know what's great about ambition? You can't see it. Some things look ambitious, but looks can be deceiving. For example, a runner could be training for a marathon, or they could be late for the bus. You never know. Ambition is on the inside. So that goal to beat your personal best?
Starting point is 00:00:21 Keep chasing it. Drive your ambition. Mitsubishi motors welcome ladies and gentlemen it's time for the one show the remote one show the fourth one we filmed the best kind of one show wait what do you mean the fourth one we filmed today we filmed four last week. We're not going to have to film a WAN show for like two months. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:49 This is going to be great. Man, it's just lucky that we have such an accurate crystal ball because otherwise we'd be in real trouble like two months from now when, you know, like NVIDIA is launching something or whatever and we're not talking about it because we're on top of this. Because all the hardware is so cyclical anyways that we just guess what it's going to be yeah pretty much enough we just call everything rumors we say everything's allegedly yep yep we just move on allegedly is the key word it's the perfect word all right guys we got a great show for you today
Starting point is 00:01:21 got a lot of great topics uh it's kind of a lie we don't really have a ton of great topics we definitely have the one about people setting fire to 5g towers because um because people are special um so that's that's great we're going to talk about that we're going to talk about the playstation 5 controller actually you might have some stuff to say about playstation 5 controller i suspect you will i have intentionally not looked at it because i knew we were going to talk about it we're going to get that raw reaction ladies and gentlemen yeah we've also got uh apple and google teaming up to use your data in the fight against covid and 800 gigabit per second ethernet spec has been announced yeah it's super that's a boring topic we might not even talk about
Starting point is 00:02:03 that but also amd's fourth gen ryzen desktop chips are apparently set to release in september 2020 that's a bit of a more fun talk why is that under rapid fire uh i don't know that's sort of a big topic but you know as far as i can tell the difference between main topics and rapid fire is that someone flipped a coin and it landed on the right side or the wrong side they didn't have a ton of notes for it so they're just like oh yeah you know how you know how it is you know how it is so great great great show for you guys today we're gonna have a lot of fun and we're gonna roll that intro i promise we're going to you just wait it's gonna happen wait for it here it is it's coming now youtube not live no youtube youtube not live oh yeah it's because it's uh stupid uh so there we go
Starting point is 00:02:55 so the issue with going live on youtube by the way thank you very much guys is that in order to use the same stream key which would be the intuitive way for a streaming thing to work um oh shoot i forgot to put the uh little lower third thing whatever it doesn't matter back to linus luke uh in order to reuse the same stream key which is how i would expect it to work that's how it works on twitch so it works on floatplane basically everywhere else um you have to like kind of copy paste your last live event that used that same stream key so what happens when you copy your last event is it also copies all the characteristics of it including the title and the fact that it's public so
Starting point is 00:03:38 immediately it sends out a ping to people who follow you like, hey, we're going live. And I'm not. It would be great to have a second to say, actually, no, I would like this to be unlisted or private for now while I get everything set up, because you never know. It might not be perfect immediately when we start. But no, no, that's not how the interface works. And so then what happens is i go in and i set it to unlisted that's the first thing i do so that it's not just like spamming
Starting point is 00:04:10 people with this event that doesn't exist and then um what i then do is i forget so i press go live but it's still set to unlisted but then there's all these people in the chat so i'm like oh okay everything's working normally but they're only there because it was temporarily public earlier on yeah so it's just the dumbest thing ever and i i the only fix is for youtube to fix their interface or me to become a super genius who can remember all these ridiculous steps that's annoying that's fine let's just just so you know as well apparently teams does have some auto gain features so i think that's fine let's just just so you know as well apparently teams does have some auto gain features so i think that's more what we were running into apparently it does because we were definitely running into that like when i was taking um so we did a pre-stream testing uh over on twitch
Starting point is 00:04:56 and floatplane and when we were trying to configure luke's audio to get to the right levels no matter how much i tried to boost him on my go xlr mixer thing um he wouldn't get any louder but and this is a dynamic mic yeah when i got further away i stayed the same volume yeah and like really weird so what would happen was his voice wouldn't get any louder but i could hear like the cars driving by on the road which with a dynamic microphone should absolutely not be a thing like yeah it must be taking just this like tiny waveform and then just being like yeah that's exactly as important as the person talking right so we might i don't know we might have to switch to a different voice chat app for next week but the thing is the video quality
Starting point is 00:05:44 on teams is reasonably good as long as you upgrade your camera at some point. What cable is it that you need? Can I just send you a cable? Is it like a special cable, Luke? I think so. Hold on. It's just like a micro HDMI or something, isn't it? I bet it's just a micro HDMI cable.
Starting point is 00:05:59 No, no, no. I have that. You have that. I found that. And we could still hear you. We could still hear you yelling from across the room just fine. Like I could hear you still. So bizarre. That should not be how that works.
Starting point is 00:06:11 So I have this guy, which should be pretty good for the stream. Yeah, it looks pretty good. Handy. It looks handy. I don't remember what the exact model is. I'm sure I could find it somewhere. HDR-CX900. And I have the micro HDMImi it's not even mini it's just freaking teeny i found that i only have one of those and i found that but i can't
Starting point is 00:06:35 find it's dcn which is super unique oh there's your problem yeah that that's not working that's not working what you're doing but that's fine i understand i understand it was it was worth it was worth a try um yeah okay so there's your problem yeah that's like that's like an ebay that's like an 80 ebay special right there yeah yeah and i've i've somewhat given up trying to find it here um i checked every bin that should have cables in it and it wasn't there um and i've checked places where i don't normally store cables and didn't find it there either so of course the specs on bnh just say power cord yeah aren't you so glad that proprietary power connectors are going the way of the dodo right now yes because it's super and this is like particularly annoying problem i remember and this is the frustrating
Starting point is 00:07:31 part i have one of these micro hdmis but i have two power cables for this because when i bought it i knew the power cable was going to be annoying the second i looked at it i was like yep that sucks so i didn't buy another like wall plug power cable i bought a usb to this proprietary end thing and it worked i've used it but i don't know where that is either oops i just uh shared our chat history on the stream because i went to send you a message and it still captured that window hopefully we haven't been talking about anything incriminating lately because that's out there um all butts oh it's all butts i mean that's that's pretty much a given uh let's just see uh uh yeah everything looks pretty good other than that uh tool that you shared with me that we probably don't need the entire internet having access to um what about the the stream key was that shared no okay cool no we're good no we're good we're good we're good you didn't send
Starting point is 00:08:34 me the stream key in there no no it's all good yeah it's only 15 bucks i found it for 15 bucks us so that's like 30 canadian dollars now by the time you actually get it shipped up here but that's doable one thing you should make sure of though before you even do before you even spend 15 on that thing is make sure that it's got a clean hdmi output because i really struggled with that it does okay i've streamed with this before it looks really good i like this i have yeah all right i have used this before uh all right i mean i'm i'm hardly a streaming expert to be very clear like i shouldn't be the one advising you in fact uh epos vox watched my streaming setup upgrade video and basically tweeted at me he's like we should talk you should yeah why didn't you talk to him first i'm sure you would have been down no no i think i know what
Starting point is 00:09:21 he was upset about and the thing he was upset about was a total like accident um so i was using this like super cheap behringer xlr interface on it and basically it was like a 30 interface on like a 500 microphone and a total mismatch everything else about it i think is is pretty fine like i'm using those Elgato lights and like an Elgato arm. And I've got a Rebel T6i camera that honestly, I think looks pretty darn good now. And then I've got like a stream deck and it's all pretty standard stuff, except for that interface that I was using that was just a total mismatch. But my intention was to swap it out basically immediately for a GoXLR because I really like being able to say words like
Starting point is 00:10:09 and on stream. So yes, don't worry. It's all good. It's all good. It's all bleep. I was like, Oh, no. Yeah, no, no, no, no, it's fine. It's fine uh that is the biggest reason that i like it so um anyway i have swapped that out i actually recorded a video clip today explaining that it has been swapped out um so hopefully hopefully it's all hopefully it's all good um oh okay hold on a second uh Oh, okay. Hold on a second. Oh, never mind. Okay, let's move on to our first topic then, shall we?
Starting point is 00:11:01 Should we go with the 5G towers? Sure. You're going to have to solo this one a little bit because I have to do something very quickly. Yeah, that makes sense that you would have to do such a thing. So I'm going to go ahead and actually, you know what?
Starting point is 00:11:13 I'm going to do a more boring topic first then. Apple and Google team up to use your data against COVID-19. So this was posted by Phil104 on the forum. And the original article here is from the BBC. So Apple and Google are jointly developing technology to alert people if they have recently come into contact with others found to be infected with coronavirus. This is some incredibly big brother stuff right there. They hope to initially help third party contact tracing apps run efficiently. So this
Starting point is 00:11:45 would make the apps interoperable so that contact tracing would continue to work if people traveled overseas and came into contact with people who are using a different tool. Ultimately, they aim to do away with the need to download dedicated apps, though, baking a toggle switch into the OS. switch into the os isn't that kind of terrifying like how how easy it is for them to turn on an app that basically catalogs everyone you've come in contact with like that took weeks um yeah the two companies believe that their approach designed to keep users whose participation would be voluntary apparently okay so that's good i guess uh anonymous would um help address privacy concerns about this so so here here's how all that shakes down participation is voluntary you don't have to participate users are anonymous some how i mean there's a so they're anonymous in the sense that i guess your your like user token
Starting point is 00:12:47 So they're anonymous in the sense that I guess your user token would be randomized. It wouldn't be your name. But it wouldn't be anonymous in the sense that you couldn't... Okay, if I worked at Google or Apple and I was to have your token number and I could see everyone you've come in contact with, I could probably figure out who you are eventually by going to places that you go on a regular basis and being like, sup, what's your name? Cool.
Starting point is 00:13:11 And then leaving. And then I would be able to match a token with the name. Now, obviously that's a pretty pinfoil hat kind of thing. And that means that the database wouldn't be searchable the other way. Like I couldn't just enter a name and then see where that person has gone. I would have to like find random tokens and then match those to names. So it would be a one in seven billion shot to have Kim Kardashian's,
Starting point is 00:13:36 who she's been in contact with token. You know what I mean? But it's still, I don't know. There's definitely a lot of people out there that's going to make pretty uncomfortable. So the way it tracks your location is it uses your phone's Bluetooth signals to determine who the owner
Starting point is 00:13:51 has recently been in proximity with for long enough to establish a contagion risk. Bluetooth, that's actually a super kind of clever way to do it. So it's not GPS because as soon as you go inside a tall building or whatever, you know, GPS isn't going to be accurate to within the six feet that you're expected to maintain
Starting point is 00:14:10 from other people for social distancing. It would be far less accurate than that. But if you're using Bluetooth, it can use GPS as like a sanity check. I mean, I'm guessing. I'm guessing it would do this. But it could use GPS as a sanity check to go, okay, yeah, these guys were in approximately the same location. And then Bluetooth to be like, oh, yeah, they actually were near each other. this but it could use gps as a sanity check to go okay yeah these guys were in approximately the same location and then bluetooth to be like oh yeah they actually were near each other i guess
Starting point is 00:14:29 you wouldn't even need the gps that's pretty that's pretty cool that's kind of smart um close proximity so then you wouldn't know where people are going you would just know who they've been in proximity to okay that actually that does help my privacy concerns a little bit look it's got its own issues luke i see your face i see the face you're making i'm not saying it's Okay, that actually, that does help my privacy concerns a little bit. Look, it's got its own issues, Luke. I see your face. I see the face you're making. I'm not saying it's perfect.
Starting point is 00:14:55 I'm not saying it's amazing and I feel like, you know, we should just turn it on all the time. I'm just saying it's better than having GPS tracking on all the time. It's definitely an interesting tool in this time. You f***ing dick. Whoa. Oh, that's... I don't hear the beeps. There's just so much inside of me. It's like, you can't say that on the internet.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Oh, that's too much fun. Oh, you missed one of them, I guess. but that one's not that big of a deal uh okay anyway so yeah okay tell me tell me how you feel tell me how you feel i i don't know i these things are always funky because there's always the like um i mean it's opt-in right yes so whatever but there's been a lot of things that have been opt-in that that turns out they're just like you can't yeah even if you don't opt in you can't opt out yeah google likes doing that kind of stuff i i don't know. I mean, I think I usually like going with the like, no, protect my information thing. In this case, I would probably sign up for it.
Starting point is 00:16:19 That's due to like people that I'm close with being high risk and wanting to protect them as much as possible. And if I was able to know that I was near someone that was infected so that I could, uh, not be near those people anymore, I think that would be very highly valuable. So I would probably turn it on myself. Um, you know, what's interesting is we actually talked about a very similar topic and you said the pipes thing the uh no the smart toilets one i'm saying the yeah oh the the adult swim meme is that it's pipes oh sure okay smart pipe yeah so so smart toilets that would basically um evaluate your health based on your your ex your excretions um and you said no for that one and i i think i had said something like so you wouldn't turn it on to save your life but then i guess the question
Starting point is 00:17:10 becomes would you turn it on to save your dad's life yeah it's not mine oof i think i think that's like a big part of the change right um is that like that's me putting the value of my own information over the potential lives of the people that are close to me. And that starts to break lines for me because that's no longer the consequence isn't on me anymore. Right. Or not as much. Yeah. I mean, it could be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It still definitely is. But anyone could die. Also other heavy consequence on other people, you know? Yeah. So I think that changes my stance on that a little bit. Okay, so tell me this then. the smart toilet thing is that collectively as a species, we become healthier and live longer
Starting point is 00:18:05 because we learn far more about the effects of our diet and our activities on the human body. And we're all able to collectively be healthier now. Now, but it gets more specific than that, because let's say that some of the information that they collected about what puts, what's higher risk for you, like what you're at risk of, let's say that knowledge could be used to say, okay, so there's a hereditary risk factor for Luke here. It came from somewhere.
Starting point is 00:18:37 And that ultimately comes back to someone like your parents or your brother. And they could use that to proactively, even though they don't have a smart toilet, they could know, oh, wow, well, this guy got it from somewhere. Now what? I think in this case, I know that the person slash people that are at risk would much rather that I had the app installed. It's not that I can. Yes. Yeah. Okay. I wouldn't even have to ask. They would very heavily insist that that was done. Right. So if the toilet thing came around and my family and people that are close to me were like, hey, you should get this thing because of me, I think I would be much more heavily convinced, if that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Right. But as long as they don't watch WAN show and they don't learn about this toilet then you're never gonna bring it up then we're good all right all right all right all right got it got it i it's it's it's i think it's it's one thing to be proactive on your own and it's another thing to deny someone else's concerns. If that makes sense. All right. So my current stance on that, it uses the Bluetooth signals that, um, so it uses the Bluetooth signals.
Starting point is 00:19:53 All right. It's officially the boomer show. Now it uses Bluetooth signals to determine who you've been in proximity with. And if one of those people later test positive for COVID-19, um, the owner of the handset that's gone near it would get a warning. Okay, so this is right in here. No GPS location data or personal information would be recorded and the records of the digital IDs involved would be stored on remote servers, but the companies say these could
Starting point is 00:20:17 not be used to unmask a specific individual's true identity. I'd be interested in what the warning uh is or would be because for instance there there's a there's a concern that's affecting us right now um i won't entirely go into it but uh a bus driver in british columbia that worked in in i think i think it was the surrey area but they won't specify what route um contracted covid and died but they won't but they won't tell anyone what route yeah that seems like counterproductive seems counterproductive but apparently it's because they're worried about like witch hunting on his like family and other stuff like that because there's been a lot of negative reactions like people attacking nurse nurses and doctors and stuff like that i haven't heard about this this is a new
Starting point is 00:21:10 one for me that's i don't know how common that is in canada um but i've like yeah i've seen i've seen video stuff of it online i think the big concern and the reason why people are doing that is due to them still wearing their scrubs and their medical stuff on the way home. And they're worried about them spreading it. Oh, I see. But I don't know. I mean,
Starting point is 00:21:32 this whole thing is very weird right now. Probably should be ditching that stuff at the hospital and leaving it there to be cleaned. Um, that's, yeah, that's a fair point, but I also,
Starting point is 00:21:43 you know, they might not have the facilities for that right now or something. Cause it might be over capacity. I don't know. All right. Um, that's, yeah, that's a fair point, but I also, you know, they might not have the facilities for that right now or something. Cause it might be over capacity. I don't know. All right. Um, but yeah, they, they won't release like what the route was, which seems, I don't know. I'm not a fan of that personally, but all right. Apparently.
Starting point is 00:21:59 So like, so basically what I guess I would say is like, would they they say where or just you have been near someone no no i don't think it would even know where so the contact matching process takes place on device rather than centrally so it would be nice if it told you the time then yeah the time would be pretty nice um but I think the idea is... Because there's a difference between, like, if you're somewhere and you're being extremely careful versus you're... So, like, you probably didn't get it, even though there was someone within Bluetooth range.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Yeah. Or there's somewhere where your defenses have to come down a certain degree for a certain amount of time. And if you knew that was happening... Someone just said Luke interrupting tips. Yeah, I'm sorry. If you knew that was happening, it would be nice to know like, oh, I was somewhat compromised at that time. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:22:53 My concern level goes up. But I think the issue is that they want to take as little information as possible to get you sort of the basic, they want to take as little info as possible to get you something actionable and the actionable thing is hey you need to go into quarantine yeah that's it yeah that's all there is to it you were exposed that's fair get into quarantine because it's so contagious that if you were in a close proximity to someone who has it for some period of time that apparently it does require you to be in contact for some period of time that apparently it does require you to be in contact for some period of time so it's not enough to drive past someone on the street
Starting point is 00:23:29 is what i'm assuming they're trying to avoid um then you just you just kind of need to because it can be it can stay alive on surfaces uh people can can cough into the air and the the particles can be inhaled um so it actually seems like I started out really skeptical about this, but it seems like the way that they're going about it is kind of smart and pretty reasonable. So they're saying they will openly publish information about their work for others to analyze. And the European Union's data protection supervisor said the initiative will require further assessment. However, after a quick look, it seems to tick the right boxes as it pertains to user choice, data protection by design, and pan-European interoperability.
Starting point is 00:24:08 All right. Well, good luck. In other news, this was posted by... Will you sign up for it? Will I sign up for it? Sure. Yeah. Yeah, I don't see why not.
Starting point is 00:24:16 I mean, right now, I basically haven't left my house other than to run to my local grocery store, grab a couple things, wipe down the boxes with Lysol wipes when I get back to my house. And that's it. That's basically all I've done in the last like two and a half weeks. So if I'm in quarantine, I don't think I'm going to bother to put the app on my phone. But if I were to go back to the office, like I've been, I had coughed twice today. So I'll have been symptom free for 72 hours by sometime next week. And I would like to go back to the office so that I'm not setting up every shoot by myself right now,
Starting point is 00:24:52 like I, or like I am right now. And so if I were to do that, yeah, I think it would make sense for me to have an app installed at the very least. And I'll probably switch to wearing masks, except when I'm like the moments that I'm on camera and recording just because it muffles the audio yeah yeah in other news uh phil 104 on the forum posted this
Starting point is 00:25:13 this is great um some people believe that 5g like like for cell phones um started covid and those people need uh need an education because that's really not how viruses work um but 5g towers have apparently been set fire to in birmingham are you are you trying to tell me you can't send viruses over a network uh okay well i think i think you're intentionally trying to misunderstand me sir sir sir i, sir, I'm going to have to ask it, sir. Okay, sir, sir. Now, sir, that kind of tone is just simply not acceptable. Sir, you're definitely misunderstanding me on purpose.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I'm saying that no, no, waves through the air cannot cause a virus to infect human cells. There, that kind human cells. There. That kind of virus. There's my third cough for the day. You basically made me sick by pretending to be that stupid. That's what happened right there. Gave you a virus. 5G towers have been set fire to in Birmingham, Liverpool, and Melling.
Starting point is 00:26:22 And Cabinet Office Minister Michael Gove said it is just nonsense, dangerous nonsense as well, because people seem to be setting fire to these 5G towers in order to stop the spread of COVID. Now, I do appreciate people trying to help. You know, that's good. Taking the initiative is good. And, you know, working together as a society to make ourselves all safer and healthier. That's good, too. But but diseases are not caused by 5G and setting cell phone towers on fire during an emergency, a heightened, heightened level of emergency state, which we're in, is especially stupid because they're needed for people to call emergency services. So we really do need cell phone towers working and not on fire. So if there's anyone in our audience, which I don't believe to be the case, I actually do like to think that our audience is a bit of a cut above the average YouTube viewer.
Starting point is 00:27:28 If there's anyone in our audience who is out there, part of a vigilante group that is, you know, taking it to those corporations that are infecting us with COVID with the 5G towers, I would like to ask you to stop. To please- To end it now. Yeah, to please stop setting fire to the towers because we do, in fact, need the towers. Thank you very much. To please end it now. Yeah, to please stop setting fire to the towers
Starting point is 00:27:45 because we do in fact need the towers. Thank you very much. You had a good run. Yeah, you know what? I'm not going to ask you to, yeah, I'm not going to ask you to demask yourself and admit that you were involved because if I was you,
Starting point is 00:27:58 I wouldn't want to admit I was involved in something that ridiculously done either. So that's fine. Don't say anything, but just please stop setting fire to the towers and's fine. Don't say anything, but just please stop setting fire to the towers. And thank you. And if you, if you can, if you can, if, if those people are reachable, you know, like some people are not reachable. I don't know if you saw that clip of the lady who is covered in Jesus's blood. Did you happen to see that one? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:19 I saw, I saw that too. Um, some people are not reachable. if if you're if your compatriots are are just not reachable you know i don't expect you to convert them to to not believing that 5g causes covid because there's just you know there's nothing you can do at a certain point but just don't be involved in it you know and maybe don't talk to them anymore because they're probably, you know, not the kind of people that make you a better person. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. All right. David Shook says, my ancestors burned witches. All right. That's fair. That's fair. That is actually fairly, that's a good parallel. Humans evolve and grow past things. Do they? Actually actually i think this topic is basically all
Starting point is 00:29:07 the evidence we need that they don't well i think this is now a smaller you can't touch me because of covid so i think we're okay it's gonna be hard to get people to uh burn me at the stake if no one is gonna come near me yeah all right cool solved xa says no one really believes 5g causes coronavirus are you sure but people are concerned with 5g safety and uh privacy. Oh, and the message is gone now. Yeah, you still shouldn't be lighting the things on fire. That's definitely, definitely the wrong, super duper wrong approach. Also, I think there's a lot of confusion about what exactly 5G is, because many people, and I
Starting point is 00:29:59 saw this in the comments on those both of the videos, in spite of the fact that explicitly in both videos i explained this 5g is not the same as millimeter wave there seems to be a ton of confusion in the comments on those videos across the internet in general where people are like 5g is dangerous because of the high frequency of the waves or because of the high speeds it operates at or whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever. 5G is not the same as millimeter wave. And millimeter wave, which we also demonstrated in both videos, is so pinner that it can't even get through a piece of paper, let alone penetrating your body and mutating your cells. So 5G millimeter wave is definitely okay superhero though it's definitely okay to be a superhero enough enough so disappointed enough okay so 5g millimeter wave is is 5g just wi-fi
Starting point is 00:30:55 no no no no rob no it's not wi-fi okay 5g is just the fifth generation of cellular technology that's all it is it It operates across... That's what G stands for. It operates... Yes, G is for generation. It operates across multiple... Not just multiple. It operates across the spectrum, okay?
Starting point is 00:31:14 So you can have 5G that's based on low band. So that's your long range, low speed waves, okay? You can have 5G across your mid band. So that's your medium speed, medium range. And then you can have 5G on your high band waves. You can have 5G across your mid band, so that's your medium speed, medium range, and then you can have 5G on your high band waves. Those are your high frequency, high speed, but low range waves. There's a bunch of technology built into 5G around the way the signals are processed, that it makes it fifth generation. Is it fairly iterative? Actually, in some ways, yes. And 4G long-term evolution, 4G LTE, I think some of the marketing around that was like,
Starting point is 00:31:52 this is going to be the last one. And then now they're turning around and they're going, no, 5G, 5G now. And so I think there's a lot of people upset about the way that 5G has been marketed, but that doesn't change what it is what it is is another evolutionary step forward in the handling of wireless signals over cellular networks that's all it is now if you want to talk about millimeter wave we can talk about millimeter wave but that's a separate conversation that's it yeah yeah pretty much not something to light fire to storybook bus 03 says you're giving a very cut version of the scientific explanation well yeah yeah this is a this is a tech podcast what do you what do you want from me if you want
Starting point is 00:32:38 to explain something you better do so with full displays and all information without bias what bias waves traveling through the air don't care about your bias that's it the the they don't they don't go through stuff that's all there is to it it's if you want full featured full fat scientific explanations go look them up um leo key says 5g towers are radioactive so is the the glowing banana so yeah so it's a banana the ocean so is the glowing uh face on your watch and you wear that on your wrist and yet somehow we don't have uh you know a rash of wrist tumors just because something is radioactive actually doesn't inherently make it going to kill you
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Starting point is 00:37:49 the original article is from the uh the playstation blog okay and it was posted by soft 006 on the forum sony has released images of the final design of the dual sense controller dual sense there it is dual sense dual so what's dual about it other than the like what's dual whoa whoa whoa indeed bruh whoa let me get this on screen yeah it looks like it has like it looks like it's wearing a super suit. It looks like an older PlayStation controller that put on a skin-tight suit. Okay, can I stop you for one second here? Chat is still arguing about 5G. Anyway, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:38:40 People were wondering if people were concerned about 5G. There's your answer. It looks interesting. It doesn't look crazy different i would say this is the okay i mean this is a fairly station doesn't change much so given playstation's controller changes maybe i think this is pretty dramatic for a PlayStation controller change. Because my biggest issue with PlayStation controllers is not actually... It is a problem for me, but my biggest issue is not actually the fact that the joysticks are not... The joystick and D-pad on the left side i like them swapped like the xbox controller yeah
Starting point is 00:39:26 so they're it's symmetrical that's that's my that's one of my big issues with it but my bigger issue was that i just don't find the like the like knobbly handles i don't find them very ergonomic they're not contoured to my hand like what hand is that designed for where are you saying where the the the joystick has a dimple kind of no no the the backs like the handles oh yeah like on the older ones this new one looks way more ergonomic to me so i just looked up a picture of a playstation 4 controller yeah and yeah i think i think i saw the new ones handles and we're just like, yeah, that's obviously how that should work. But yeah, the previous one has like rounded sticks. Yeah, like it just, it never made sense to me.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Whose hand were those designed for? Like it looks like a game controller. It doesn't look like something that fits in a human appendage. You know what I mean? Yeah, I know. I've never personally liked PlayStation controllers. I even when I started trying to play Horizon Zero Dawn on a PS4, I went out and figured out how to like USB adapter and program in an Xbox controller to be able to play on the PlayStation. And it was worth it, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Yeah. I just, I've spent so much time on controllers with offset joysticks instead of inline joysticks. It feels really weird to have my hand held like that. I have relatively big hands. I know other people that have relatively big hands and they like PlayStation controllers, but it feels too cramped for me. everything's in and i have to bring my
Starting point is 00:41:06 thumbs in i just i don't like it this looks a lot better to hold it like that basically like i still don't i i still don't prefer the inline joysticks but the the ergonomics of the backing of it like this is the biggest change for sure since going to dual analog sticks on the playstation 2 it's been pretty pretty iterative since there okay little touch panel here a little you know light there and your share button or whatever whatever that button was called uh yeah it does very much like the the design idea of the playstation 4 one is like kind of fixed shapes like the d-pad even though it's a d-pad it has this ring on it and the ring is kind of the same size as the one for x circle square triangle um and then the joysticks both have their own little rings then everything else
Starting point is 00:42:01 is like there's two sticks shoved on the side and the touchpad is a block yeah and this new one is much more sweeping yeah like it's curved like for like for humans like for soft things to touch it yeah i'm i'm actually i'm surprisingly into it you know every once in a while this happens on uh on tech linked where i'm reading a news story and i haven't actually seen the thing i'm talking about um so i think i made fun of the ps5 controller on tech linked when i shot it on wednesday this week but but looking at this like yeah cool looking at this i'm like ah you know what i don't know i don't know riley i think i think it looks pretty good i mean yeah there's still things i would change for sure, but this
Starting point is 00:42:45 is the kind of improvement that could make me not immediately discard a PlayStation controller and go look for an Xbox one. Um, I'm still not, I wouldn't buy one. Like if I wanted a controller for my PC, like some, which is all I really use a controller on. I don't actually own a console. Um, well I do, I have a switch, but if I wanted to, to, to just use a controller on i don't actually own a console uh well i do i have a switch but if i wanted to to just use a controller on my pc i would still go get an xbox controller uh instead of this if i had to buy it but if if someone handed me this i wouldn't be like ew oh gross ew and and not use it this is this is looks a lot better some interesting features uh they've adopted haptic feedback so you'll feel quote the slow grittiness of driving a car through mud uh adaptive triggers for l2 and r2 so you can feel
Starting point is 00:43:32 the tension of your actions like when uh drawing a bow to shoot narrow that's actually pretty cool um okay change the angle of the triggers made some subtle updates to the grip that doesn't look subtle to me at all it looks way better i think they mean like the texture oh okay like the actual grip of it not the shape or anything i don't know because that looks that looks like an extreme update to the grip and like in a good way maybe they call it a subtle update so that they don't have to acknowledge how bad it was before like maybe someone came in and was like you know we got some fresh blood in or something or like, you know, maybe one of the executives that's just, you know, all business
Starting point is 00:44:09 and no gaming, you know, has a kid now that like grew up and is like, you know, 22 and started at the company. And there's like a bunch of nepotism. And this this kid, you know, has way more say all of a sudden than any of the other people that actually know anything about gaming and came in and was like, yo, we've been doing this wrong for like 25 years can we please finally fix this and they're like oh yeah okay yeah sure no problem no problem sir we got this and and this is totally hypothetical i don't think that's actually how it went down but it just seems like why did they not fix it for so long and then now it's just like immediately yeah subtle changes way better i haven't actually held it in my hands yet so i don't know that it's that much better but it looks that much better
Starting point is 00:44:48 it does look a lot better we'll have to see till yeah hands-on with controllers is so important but well it looks better there's also a built-in mic in the controller so that's probably horrible um it might be all right like microphone i just mean because i usually honestly don't want to hear anybody okay but that's a separate conversation yeah i jumped into some vr game at one point that i didn't realize was going to drop me straight into a multiplayer arena like i was doing the tutorial which it turns out takes place in a multiplayer accessible space that's pretty and your mic is automatically just on and open when you launch this game i forget what game it was it was horrible it made me nauseated almost
Starting point is 00:45:35 immediately and um anyway just the amount of just other people shrieking and i couldn't figure out like why they were yelling at me or even what they were saying because it just sounded like nothing because it was just clipping and super high pitch. You know how it is. Anyway, the quality of the mic might not necessarily be terrible. Sony does know a thing or two about audio and good array mics these days can be shockingly good. Like the mic, I get so many comments about how good my VR stream sound using the built-in microphone on the Valve Index. The Index, yeah. The Index's mic is very surprising. I will definitely agree with that.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Shockingly God tier. Like I couldn't believe it. Yeah. But I, yeah, my biggest complaint with that is just the like barrier of entry for people being able to put their voice in your ears. Right. It's nice for them to have to have money to transmit their voice to you as opposed to just owning a controller. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Which like came with the console. Right. So like literally everyone will have access to that. If you play with anyone on PlayStation, they will have access to it unless it's backwards compatible with the PS4 controllers i guess but yeah i don't know looks cool excited to actually hold it in my hands i hope it's a step up uh because then if i ever have to play anything on playstation it won't immediately feel quite as horrible as it currently does i'm just not into those kind of controllers and the thing is like sometimes you might feel like you have to play something on playstation because there's like some good games over there they have
Starting point is 00:47:08 a lot of really good exclusives you know what uh this is not a news topic for this week but i feel like i need to talk about it the number of comments like fanboys drive me absolutely crazy the number of comments on my review of the s20 ultra this week, where the title was, please don't buy the S20 Ultra. And the reason is that as far as I feel, okay, and it's my opinion. You watch my videos so you can get my opinion. Okay, that's the way it works. It made no noticeable change to my life compared to my two-year-old Note 9
Starting point is 00:47:40 that I'm still daily driving because I can't use the Fold because this YouTube Stories feature is broken on it. And I need that for work. I know it's the stupidest thing ever. I love the Fold. And it was working for a bit. So I went back to using it and then it just stopped working again.
Starting point is 00:47:55 I tried a YouTube app update today just to see if it's back. It's not. What doesn't work? Sorry, I know this is not. It's just not there. Yeah, I contacted Samsung and like the rep that i talked to had no idea and then i contacted uh top creator support and they were like oh yeah it's not supported on that device i'm like why and then i i don't know that i ever heard back i don't know that i actually sent
Starting point is 00:48:17 an email saying why um because that would have been you should try um pretty obnoxious you should try just getting the apk. No, I tried it. Oh, really? Yeah, no, it didn't work. Yeah, it didn't work. So really frustrating. And then I think one of the Samsung people I talked to was like, oh, yeah, it's working on my phone, my Fold. I'm like, oh, that's nice.
Starting point is 00:48:36 But like, I need it working on mine so that I can use this device. And then I'm not sure that we ever found a resolution to that. sure that we ever found a resolution to that. So anyway, what I was trying to say was this is a $1,400 US dollar phone that as far as I can tell, does not justify its price in any meaningful way. Something like the Note 9, my justification for why I recommended it at the time, in spite of the fact that it was, I think it was $1,100 for the top spec or $1,200 for the top. It was also a very expensive device, but it had everything. No other device ever has had everything the way the Note 9 does. It has a headphone jack. It's got expandable storage. It's got IP water resistance. It's got a serviceable camera. Yes, it's not as good as
Starting point is 00:49:19 some newer phones now, for sure, but it's still better than like your, your, your, your typical Chinese phone, um, or like a value phone. So it just, it had everything. It had the stylus. I don't use it that often, but sometimes it really comes in handy. It's really nice. And it didn't have a, a hole punch in the display. It didn't have a notch. It was just like, I was like, okay, everything came together for this device. It's worth paying a premium for and to me the s20 ultra just didn't do that at all it's it's it's another phone like okay neat yeah neat i guess that's fair um i think we're we're starting to run into that more and more unless you have like drastic features like folding. So anyway, though, but that's I mean, that's exactly it is.
Starting point is 00:50:09 I also I also said I love the fold. But anyway, what was what was really funny to me about this, though, was the comments on that video, particularly after the like the first wave where it's our subscribers watching. So once a video does well with our subscribers, YouTube will algorithmically start to serve it out to a broader audience. Right. And it is full of people just sort of bashing on me for just being an iPhone fan boy. And I'm looking at this, like,
Starting point is 00:50:41 what are you talking about? Justin says, just say you're biased towards iPhone, man, because we all already know. This is two comments later. DerCSR says, you are a fan of Apple, in all caps. Hold on, I got to scroll a little bit further down to find another one. I'm trying to figure out how and why someone would come to that conclusion. I'm trying to figure out how and why someone would come to that conclusion.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Because the only reason to say anything negative about a Samsung phone is if you're a filthy Apple fanboy. Because I didn't even say the iPhone is the greatest phone on earth in that video. I just said that this phone is more expensive than an iPhone and definitely falls short of it in certain ways like i don't think i don't think it justifies it that's all i said you're an iphone fan it's like a perfect way for me to filter through comments and determine who in fact does not watch this channel at all and yeah just phones in general are just way too expensive these days phones in general seem to be kind of the new amd versus intel from like a fanboy flame war perspective like i don't remember the lot even like xbox playstation i don't think maybe i just don't participate in that community as much but i don't think i've seen nearly the same level of toxicity in the last couple years i don't think the console fanboy wars have been very hot for a long time
Starting point is 00:52:12 um that might be because it's been a long time since we've had a new one yeah when the new launch when the new launch happens we might see once people are actually making decisions with their money again um and like voting with their wallets and it's like you know like that south park uh episode the the i think it was like a lord of the rings spoof they did where they were deciding which consoles to buy and they like went to battle or something a black friday thing whatever it doesn't matter the point is um you know once people are are getting into arguments with their friend group about like which one we should all invest in so we can all play together it might heat up a little bit but right now it feels like no one cares you just if you want to
Starting point is 00:52:48 play especially when when like you want to play with your friends but your your like dad is going to buy one of them regardless because he probably wants to play with his friends or something yeah and like so you try to push your friends to get that one and then maybe another factor is just how prevalent cross play is becoming outside of exclusive titles and first party titles it no longer matters that much like david and i can argue about you know xbox controller versus playstation controller he likes the playstation controller what a what a pleb i know what a noob what yeah exactly well i wouldn't call him a noob because he can pwn it pretty much he's a pretty good gamer uh anyway um but like we can argue about it without it really mattering and so maybe part of it too is that we're at the point now in this console's life cycle where
Starting point is 00:53:39 buying both of them is not completely unattainable compared to when they both first launched. You could probably buy both of these consoles used with an adequate amount of accessories compared to buying one of them back when they launched and the accessories that you need because accessories in particular are so much cheaper to get secondhand. So maybe it's not as much of like a cost barrier. Plus, you you know if you're people like you and me you know what i always used to do was wait for something to be a little bit older i would buy it second hand and then i would flip it six months later still second hand basically losing nothing and in some cases being up on the deal so if you really want to play the exclusives
Starting point is 00:54:20 one way or the other by now what are we like five or six years into this generation of consoles you could realistically have played through all the exclusives on both of them flip them and just be sitting on your money waiting to pick up the new one when it comes out yeah because like a lot of um a lot of games are going to come out in the next little while will probably be on the next one anyways and if if I remember correctly, the next one is going to be fully backwards compatible. So if a game comes out in the interim, you'll still be able to play it. It doesn't really even matter that much. Okay. Okay. Mike says, you said Apple in the S20 Ultra review. I know I did, but I didn't say that the iPhone is God's gift to phone users. I just made a comparison,
Starting point is 00:55:06 which is a perfectly legitimate thing to do in a review of a device, that's all. Okay, and this is a fair point. JC says, if you go on Twitter, you can easily find toxic console fanboys. That's true. But if you go on Twitter, you can easily find toxic anything.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Yeah. Like, I swear to you, you could find fans, like toxic fanboys of particular types of mouse traps on twitter and they would be at each other's throats even though nobody else literally nobody else in the world cares at all yep uh what other topics we got for today teams Teams grew a thousand percent in March. That makes sense. Ah, yes. AMD fourth gen Ryzen desktop chips to release September 2020.
Starting point is 00:55:49 This is a rumor. It was originally on TechPowerUp and Tom's Hardware. Sources at Motherboard Makers, this is in quotes, allegedly, you know, are apparently reporting that AMD had Ryzen 4000 series
Starting point is 00:56:01 codenamed Vermeer desktop processors. Wait, that had? Wait, what? Or no, that they will arrive after August or September this year. Supposedly, they were supposed to launch at Computex in May, but that's been pushed to September. Computex has been pushed to September. So these are the successor to Matisse. And I could actually see like AMD postponing a launch, see like AMD postponing a launch, you know, two years ago, that was not going to be a thing. The instant they had chips that were even sort of like we saw this with the first gen Ryzen launch, the instant they had something serviceable, they shipped it, you know, memory controller issues, be damned, you know, BIOS updates that were coming after the launch reviews no problem we got this we got to
Starting point is 00:56:46 get this stuff out the door we need people buying stuff we need money that's the state they were in they're a very different company today obviously they still like money who doesn't like money no one put up their hands literally no one okay but they're not in one person watching this it's like i did yeah they're not in they're not they're not in such a dire situation now at this point amd is competing against themselves so there's nothing wrong then with stockpiling some more chips for the launch you know sitting on it for a bit and launching a little bit later. Now, I think that's the kind of behavior that turns at some point into complacency. But these are extenuating circumstances.
Starting point is 00:57:31 The show they were planning to launch, The Bloody Things, got postponed because of a worldwide pandemic. So I'm not going to... How important do you think that is these days? We've seen a lot of companies start stopping to show up at shows, starting to launch things at their own events or online events or whatever because of the general progression of the
Starting point is 00:57:55 internet. So how important do you think it is to actually launch at Computex? I think that... Because to me, if I was AMD, I wouldn't be super concerned about Computex. Maybe it's bigger in the... Because I know AMD's been doing really, really well in the enterprise space. Maybe launching at Computex is more important for enterprise launches. I wouldn't say that. I do think it's fair to say though that industry shows are as much about um getting together with your partners to to do things together as they are about just launching a product and that's why i think we've seen this pattern where um both amd and intel have used computex as a springboard for new products over the last couple of years.
Starting point is 00:58:51 And there is something to be said for having all the pertinent media in one place at a time, focused on whatever the biggest, hottest thing during a show is. That splash is something that to just buy it online would be very, very expensive. I mean, Google, Facebook, all these companies that focus on online advertising have done a great job of commoditizing eyeballs in such a way that there's really no way to get them for nothing. Whereas when you show up at a show, it's not for nothing. There's a cost to attending a show,
Starting point is 00:59:21 but it's a finite cost. And the return on that investment, if you have a great, exciting product that people really want to hear about, can be much greater than if you were to just try to buy ads online. It's also nearly impossible to measure the return on investment, which is like seen as kind of a good and a bad thing. Oh yeah. If I was a show organizer, I would see that as an awesome thing. Oh yeah. If I was a brand,
Starting point is 00:59:49 I'd be like, sorry, what is it that you'd say? Is this worth it? We're spending over a million dollars on this show and we have no idea what this is going to mean. There is no trackable return on this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Apparently a child popped in behind me. Yeah. I didn't actually see it, but behind me the door yeah i didn't actually see it but i the door is popped a little bit um and it wasn't before so oh yeah okay yeah that's fine apparently she escaped uh all right so what what are what's the rumor mill say the successor to matisse will be socket am4 multi-chip module. Okay, that makes sense. Up to two CPU complex dies. All right, based on the Zen 3 microarchitecture, which is supposed to be 5 nanometer. No, expected to be fabricated on a newer 7 nanometer class process by TSMC. So it's the
Starting point is 01:00:38 return of the pluses, ladies and gentlemen. And there will be an IO controller die. Okay, so this is not a lot of detail. I have heard some other rumors that it is going to be a significant uplift in performance and that could make Intel very, very nervous at this point. We shot a video today comparing Intel to AMD at about the same price point, but like the very top of the stack. So didn't go with amd's 64 core thread ripper we went with their 32 core because that's where intel has a price comparable product and i think we're going amd for our transcode server oh that'd be a spicy video yeah so that's uh it's coming it's coming it's coming man my my whole life is going amd like like not gonna lie when i saw this in the doc i was like maybe that's my maybe that's my new setup maybe that's it because you're already
Starting point is 01:01:32 having trouble sometimes with streaming and playing certain games right yeah and one of the things that amd does really well even since gen 1 ryzen is handle multiple tasks extremely well. And that's honestly... Gaming and streaming. That's probably the main thing I'm looking for in my processor right now because I'm very rarely doing one thing. I'm extremely often doing a ton of things at once. So being able to massively parallelize things sounds fan-freaking-tastic.
Starting point is 01:02:06 So yeah, I mean, you could probably upgrade now but if you wanted actually you could upgrade now you're like 59 60x aren't you yes yeah you could definitely you could definitely upgrade now you know when you should you know when you're probably going to upgrade you're probably going to upgrade when the new ones come out and the LTT, the Linus Media Group store, staff only store. I see. Okay. So you're going to go third gen Ryzen, but probably when the fourth gen ones come out. Yeah. When the fourth gen ones come out, that makes sense. That's a Luke move. All right. Yeah, I get it. I get it. I'm on to you. All right. I still have my Pixel 2 you know yeah yeah oh i i know i know it's doing great we've got some ltd store updates do you mind uh pulling that up there yeah so the folding at home limited edition shirt is now our most successful limited edition shirt ever. That's really,
Starting point is 01:03:06 that's cool. So thank you guys so much for your support and get this. Remember how I said that Intel was going to match the money we raised. So the money that we raised, we are using towards, um, filament, um, and a person to run our print farm. So we've actually shifted. We're not printing, uh, face shields anymore. We're printing, uh printing oh shoot uh colin put a post on the forum uh with a with a great update about what we're doing now uh unfortunately i don't remember exactly i don't even remember his um his username on the forum unfortunately but it's like ear somethings or something um uh i'm going to buy this i get i get a lot of shirts from work because like i'm supposed to promote it on wancho whatever but i'm gonna buy this i want this shirt i think it's cool i think the qr code thing is cool i think what it supports
Starting point is 01:03:57 is cool all that kind of stuff i'm gonna buy one myself the qr code is actually a little smaller than that it's less intrusive yeah yeah and isn't it a little lower as well i think so yeah that's just a mock-up for the back more where my little aimer is right now so it's our most successful shirt ever for a limited run shirt uh we've raised uh so right remember how i said that um right so what we're using the money for is um funding our print farm which is producing covid related stuff um if we run out of a need for that, then we'll just find a cause related to COVID and we will just donate the rest of it and wrap it up at that point.
Starting point is 01:04:32 But for now, the print farm is definitely valuable. And you can get updates on the forum. Colin's been posting about it over there. But there was also the donation that was going to go directly to Folding at Home, where Intel said that they would match the money that we raised directly to Folding at Home and to a maximum of 40 grand. We have raised over 35 grand so far. So we are getting super close to Intel writing a $40,000 check to Folding at Home because of our community's
Starting point is 01:05:03 support through this shirt so super cool um really proud of you guys really proud of ourselves obviously we helped a little bit um this was actually i don't think she's off her probation yet so i can't give her name yet but this was actually whipped up by our new designer so um it was kind of based on it was based on Lloyd's sort of aesthetic sensibilities and similar kind of color palette. But, yeah, she she did this one up for us. And I think it's really great. She's got some she's got some cool stuff in the pipeline that's going to be coming. And hopefully I'll be able to talk about her at some point.
Starting point is 01:05:38 But I've had a lot of people question me about why it is that we keep people anonymous for the first three months of their employment. So BC has what's called a probationary period, which means that if you decide that it's not a good fit as the employer or the employee, if either of you says, you know what, this really wasn't the right move for me, there's a no strings attached period of three months, 90 days, where you can just walk away. So there's no requirement to give notice to the employer from the employee side, and there's no requirement to give severance from the employer side. So that is intended to be used as a trial period to make sure that everybody's happy with this new relationship, because leaving a job and dismissing someone from a job are more
Starting point is 01:06:25 complicated. Both of them are more complicated after the probationary period. So it's best to sort those things out early on in the process. So the reason that we don't mention people is because when people become public facing members of the Linus Media Group team, all of a sudden they start acquiring like this following and people get attached to them. And we've had instances where things have not worked out. And the last thing we want to do is create this expectation with our audience that this person they've developed an attachment to is going to continue to be there and then they they get kind of yanked away so we we try really hard to um vet our staff and make sure that they're a really good fit before we go public with them that's that's basically why and part of it i would argue is you want them
Starting point is 01:07:17 to be able to see and get used to what what i guess it means to be in the public eye and kind of decide if that's actually something they want. Yeah, it used to be something we required. It used to be a requirement to work here. You just had to have a public Twitter. And when we did credits, for example, or if you were on WAN show, that had to be accessible. There had to be some way for the public to talk to you
Starting point is 01:07:43 because I considered it just part of the role of being at a social media first company like Linus Media Group. Nowadays, I think officially that is still the policy, but it's not really enforced anymore. So if people want to be more out of the public eye, we respect that. It was just when we were a really small team,
Starting point is 01:08:02 it would have been complicated to try to kind of have to keep people secret like we tried to do that weird thing with the nicknames but that was dumb that was my dad i liked mine slick reference year it like sort of broke down after that yeah yeah that's fine it's good it's dead it's dead now it's dead now people just use their real names so anyway we're going to be closing sales on the folding at home limited edition shirt this sunday night um we can't just keep taking orders for it forever because we have to print them and send them out at some point so if you want one you got to get your order in before the end of this weekend pacific time um also we just got a resupply of lanyards both black and orange are back in stock and we've got more stockupply of lanyards both black and orange are
Starting point is 01:08:45 back in stock and we've got more stock of cpu hard drive and gpu t-shirts all sizes are now available we have stealth hoodie in stock we're finally starting to starting to come out of that supply um interruption that we went through so guys you can pick up all your ltt store needs make sure though the highest priority is the folding at home shirt. So make sure you've got one of those in the cart. There's really no drawback to ordering that one now, especially because it's not going to delay your order because we're going to go get those printed next week. So it should ship in the next couple of weeks or so. Cool. Or well, it looks like the mystery shirt is also still available. The mystery shirt, the mystery meet
Starting point is 01:09:23 shirt has become one of our most popular items which is hilarious so people there's a lot of people evidently that just don't care what shirt they get they just want a mystery meat shirt well it's also really crazy cheap for the quality of shirt it is and this is like i'm completely detached from this whole situation but that's like nuts i don't think i've ever seen a creator merch i i don't i think you rarely see creator merch where it's 20 a shirt let alone creator merch where they're like i don't know which one but it's only 13 a shirt but what if it's like an ugly one that you don't like what one's ugly well um yeah mean, none of them are ugly per se.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Well, okay, what if it's one you don't like? There. You know, what if pink doesn't go well with your eye color? I don't know. It's $13. Clearly, you are the audience for this shirt. Yeah. 100%.
Starting point is 01:10:20 I am. That's the one I would get along with the folding one. How's the Linus shirt doing? Uh, I actually don't know. That's kind of a good question for Nick. That was, that was a Nick initiative. He was like, Oh, should we do like a hashtag Linus shirt? And I was like, yeah, I guess so. Sure. Why not? If that it's just, it's the kind of thing people are going to show up like six years from now at ltx 2025 or something i got one of these and they're going to be wearing this shirt and it's going to be like you know classic right like it looks like they've never worn any other shirt like the text
Starting point is 01:10:55 is all like cracked and faded now and like it's barely even black it's like gray now and they're going to be like i believe still you know hashtag linus oh my god oh you nerds i love it i love it i love it but you nerds um all right oh apparently we've sold a couple hundred line us's there you go nice so it's actually it's going to be a very exclusive club that's uh that's a pretty low sales shirt compared to the folding shirt like so we raised 35 grand that's not including like the costs for the shirts and the printing yeah okay um yeah it's also just a cool shirt like i really like it i like the design a lot my personal favorites right now i think are that one um gpu i'm still really into. I love the purple on GPU.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Stealth hoodie, obviously, I love. Hard drive, hard drive, I really like. Hard drive hasn't been as popular as I feel like it should be. RAM has been super popular. I think CPU is number one, though. I think CPU overtook Constellation at some point. Constellation is probably my number one. Then it would be processor and folding at home like
Starting point is 01:12:09 trading off for two and three depending on how i'm feeling i think processor goes really well with uh stealth hoodie though like i really like the way that the uh the diamond the top of the diamond comes up through the uh the stealth hoodie anyway we should uh do we have any more topics no i think it's do other topics that aren't just oh we could talk about the intel xe hp gpu 500 watts so at ces we saw the low powered xe lp but now there are leaks for the high powered xe hp um so the tdp is expected to be 500 watts at 48 volt. What does that even mean? It's expected to have a chiplet design. So there's going to be multiple dies, kind of like Zen, and it'll use tiles of execution units, each one with up to four cores per EU.
Starting point is 01:12:54 This could end up very interesting because NVIDIA seems to, I mean, we don't know much about their upcoming, is it Ampere? I think is the upcoming one. Um, but they, they still seem to be pretty on the monolithic die bandwagon and this chiplet approach could be disruptive um chiplet feels like the future man so we could potentially have specs like this um so intel xe hp 12.5 one tile gpu sorry what is this 512 execution units that would be 4096 cores 12.2 teraflop wait a second hp 12.5 two tile would be 300 watts oh so the first one was 150 this one would be 300
Starting point is 01:13:35 and that would be what assuming 1.25 gigahertz 20.48 teraflops that would be pretty good um and then a four tile version 36 teraflops lower clock speed to save some power 1.1 gigahertz um at 400 to 500 watts okay i just love the 16 384 cores yeah uh it's unclear if a four tile version will show up and if it does show up, it probably won't be for consumers. Um, but a two tile, a 20 teraflop could end up being actually competitive. So the 500 watt one is server only, and that's the one that requires 48 volt power. Oh my goodness. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:19 Well, we'll see. Good luck Intel. Um, this could be, this could be finally the thing to come and knock NVIDIA down a peg, which to be clear, I'm not saying NVIDIA makes bad products. They make great products. And in the utter absence of competition, they have still made new products at least. But boy, have their prices gotten out of control.
Starting point is 01:14:42 One concern that I have, though, is Intel really going to be the one to bring NVIDIA's prices under control or are they just both going to be expensive? I think they're both going to be expensive. That would be my guess. With that said, if Intel is hungry for market share, it's not like they can't be aggressive.
Starting point is 01:14:57 They have been aggressive at times in the past. Sure. It doesn't feel like the current Intel, if you know what I mean. But... Current Intel is undergoing a bit of a culture change right now i'm willing to bet sure yeah i think that would also be fair i don't i haven't heard anything about that but i wouldn't be surprised if that was something they were very actively working on because uh they probably kind of need to. Yeah. Is that it? Super chats? Yeah. Super chats.
Starting point is 01:15:33 I think we ended up with quite a few super chats today, so I apologize in advance, but I don't think we're going to be able to get through all of them. Thanks, Robert mail. You send a super chat like every week. What are you doing? Liam Kelly scrapyard wars idea, ultimate work from from home setup but only one person from the team can be outside at a time covid style and they can be only be outside for an hour okay i've never heard this guidance only one of you outside at a time for only an hour i don't think that's how the quarantining works okay like neat idea work from home setup but i don't think we're probably
Starting point is 01:16:02 going to do that anytime soon thanks is just a cheaper streaming setup yeah basically like honestly i have ever since the the streaming upgrade i have streamed a couple times from my desk but i have mostly used it for making video calls quickly and easily like i can just whip my mic over here and i'm ready to go it's been amazing um rob p wants to know if there's any floatplane updates you can share uh thanks for asking rob p let me just give me one second yeah take a look uh status.flowplane.com should i go look at it now too sure everything's a new this is a new thing neat uh it's been kind of in the works for a while status.flowplane.com was was up and working uh a fair while ago, but this is a much better version. I believe this time it's kind of here to stay.
Starting point is 01:17:10 So if you're into the kind of like stats for nerds stuff, there's a little bit of that here. And if you're just interested in like, oh, I'm having an issue with something or whatever else, you can take a look on your own. You can also contact customer service, do whatever else you would like to do but you can also peek in here and there's the past incident summary thing which is which is interesting a lot of these won't really affect anybody uh but you can see the the type of stuff that we may or may not be working on um and they may or may not affect you but yeah that's, that's a new thing worked on by one of the newer, but at this point he's been on the team for quite a while, so I wouldn't really say new member.
Starting point is 01:17:54 But yeah, it's cool. There's also, let creators who are interested know, we are reopening the gates in terms of recruitment. We paused there for a little bit and we're reaching out to some creators right now to get things kind of moving again. But if there's anyone that you think would be a good fit on Floatplane, we would love to talk to them. So you can also just contact customer support and be like, hey, I think this person would be a good fit for these kind of reasons. And maybe we'll try to reach out. It's a dub session says, who the, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Who the f*** buys LTT underwear? That's like for nerds. It's really comfortable. It's great. It's probably the best underwear i've ever had um and i have also heard that from a lot of other people and again i'm technically impartial here jamilo asks is the beard here to stay no i'm definitely gonna shave what's the cutoff date this is my quarantine cutoff point yeah so it's the whole time you're in quarantine yeah so when i go back to when i start working from the office again i am going to clean myself with a razor
Starting point is 01:19:10 uh carp whisperer says first live show i got to give that mund pay respect to the very good looking linus beard wonder how the wifey feels but actually she didn't like it for the first like four or five days when it was still really prickly but it's getting softer now but she but yeah it's getting a lot softer now and she actually doesn't mind it that much uh she has asked if i'm keeping it but she was asking not like you're not keeping that are you like it was you know different different tone you know um david says what has been the benefits of staying at home uh the benefit was that i was coughing and i shouldn't be at the office um asks how many lng staff watch the live streams uh they're not supposed to it's not considered work so there you go it's technically a day off uh no we're in
Starting point is 01:19:55 office today we have monday off oh okay yeah we never do fridays off because uh when show and that is legal in bc you can substitute a stat as long as there's yeah you're allowed to move stats around so we never take a friday stat okay europe just does both so that must be nice how nice for the europeans too bad we're not european luke i i'm not complaining i did stuff today i did work today and I'm working Monday United Roller says uh uh love both of your beards and AMD loves the 10 nanometer process okay I have no idea what that second part's about but thank you um all right uh Ryan says why teams and not slack um I think with uh LMG it was because we already had office 365 anyway and then teams was like another couple
Starting point is 01:20:45 dollars a month to add to it full claim does not use teams and um i mean no offense to the teams team uh but after the limited amount of use i've had to have uh for interacting with minus media group people i think we're probably going to stay that way uh yeah i probably would do that if i were you uh it would be super great if it didn't sign me out of everything all the time yeah yeah it's pretty annoying on random note jason sintich sent a hundred dollars to ask me to move the wanshow title bar to the bottom of the screen there you are sir now i'll move it back you just got trolled you got trolled you done got trolled jason how hard did he get trolled pretty hard pretty hard yep pretty hard i did it and then i undid it dang ouch apparently i look like i'm trying to cosplay as Luke. Thanks, Owen.
Starting point is 01:21:52 You apparently need ridiculously longer hair. I need a haircut so bad. It's actually here. I wonder if... Wow. Wow. Are you just going to go full Thor at this point? Like, and just do the long hair? There's technically two options i could do that um or i i considering i have no access to barbers uh my girlfriend will attempt to shorten it and then attempt to shorten it i like that that's nice i don't i don't know what we would do from there but if it got screwed up just buzzer down it's kind of it's kind of one of the two directions i think if i wanted to go for long hair now would be the time but i don't think i would work that well with it personally you don't think so i don't know i i think it could work for you i think the whole like norse god look could be all right i could give it a shot i don't know maybe we should straw pull it it takes a long time to give something like that a shot.
Starting point is 01:22:46 But then the worst case scenario is at the end, you just donate it. Although I think you would take such poor care of it that it might not be donatable. I'm not trying to judge. I'm not trying to be judgy here. I'm just making an observation. The fact that I don't know what taking good care of it would mean is probably enough.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Well, conditioner would be a start. I don't know if I've ever used that intentionally. I'm sure you haven't, Luke. I'm sure you haven't. I have accidentally because I'm like, what is this? And then I realized what I did because I grabbed the wrong bottle. And then, yeah. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Yeah, that's that's a thing all right um my girlfriend's yelling at me what apparently she buys my shampoo with conditioner uh and says that she takes care of my hair because of that so okay maybe my carry my hair is uh well taken care. You can tell her. Is her name public now or no? Is your name public? She's like a Twitch streamer now. Hey. Is she like streaming right now? That was very delayed.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Yeah. Her name is public. Okay. All right. I think she might be streaming. I'm not sure. Okay. Whatever. It doesn't matter. The point is you tell emma she doesn't know what she's talking
Starting point is 01:24:09 about because the combination shampoo conditioner is not a substitute for actual conditioner and she i'm sure she knows that she's got to know that she might be taking care of you but she's not doing a very good job luke so you can tell her i said that that's great i'll uh i'll uh i'll mention that later you let her you let her know you let her know later okay um he does that because she knows i definitely wouldn't use two different things so she might as well get the combo one it's probably the best she can do yeah she's probably right um all right the morton. The Morton Chris says, hello from Denmark. People are stupid.
Starting point is 01:24:48 5G is fine. Okay. P.S. Luke, you should buy an Astro A40 headset. No. I don't think he should. Yeah. How long has that headset existed? The A40? Like forever. a40 has been around for an
Starting point is 01:25:08 insanely long for 1 000 years and in that time human technology has improved a lot and the a40 headset as far as i can tell has not the same i remember that from like some of the first packs i went to like this is this is a very very long time um christian jones says rich due to buying stocks and crypto during the downturn just bought two displates here's the money i saved from the coupon code thanks bruh uh also says hopefully ltx 2020 still goes on um tickets bought flight tD. So you can expect some kind of news about that from us within the next couple of weeks. We're still keeping a very, very close eye on things.
Starting point is 01:25:53 I had to make a channel to comment says, you should review the Pine phone from Pine 64 when it's out. We probably would like to have a look at that. Actually, that's a good idea. So yes, we will we'll probably do that um pine phone uh put on tracker yep all right duly noted thank you what else we got here uh probably only have time for a couple more thanks gregory reed thanks kinestic um any chance we could eventually get a limited run of hardware shirts in a light color? Black is not as nice to wear in hot climates.
Starting point is 01:26:27 That's fair. Black is the easiest color for us to get good supply of. That's the main problem. We have been hard at work on sourcing an equivalent quality shirt at a fair price from a factory that doesn't abuse its workers. And we're having a hard time. There you go. That's the 100% honest truth for why we don't
Starting point is 01:26:48 have other colors. It's hard for us to launch a shirt when we don't know that we're going to have regular supply of that shirt. And the distribution for our shirt partners in Canada has not been consistent enough. Constellation, we've pulled off. At times we haven't at times we've been out of stock but we've mostly pulled it off just because we order massive quantities of it because it sells really well and we just stockpile it and we just kind of eat that that that cost of inventorying all those shirts that's really the only way for us to do it so when we want to try to experiment and just kind of do like new and interesting stuff or like limited run stuff it's easiest to do it in black i mean i've wanted a wider color palette for our shirts for a long time just because and just kind of do like new and interesting stuff or like limited run stuff, it's easiest to do it in black.
Starting point is 01:27:25 I mean, I've wanted a wider color palette for our shirts for a long time just because wearing black shirts in the thumbnails just makes them less eye catching. And so I would like to have a more colorful wardrobe, but it's just something we haven't really been able to pull off so far. What about like the really light gray?
Starting point is 01:27:48 That's a relatively popular shirt color i think we'd um yeah we'd have to look into it yeah i mean that's more of a question for like nick at this point i don't know sure yeah yeah jd hag says there's not a console flame war right now because sony destroyed microsoft this generation also kind of true also kind of true if i was a microsoft fanboy i'd probably be just kind of i'd probably have my head down for the time biding my time the look of it so far is that the new xbox is gonna be pretty crazy okay i have my hunch leans towards them right now last super chat from mark persikian do y'all think the ps5's 5.5 gigabit per second ssd will actually make a difference in game development over the series x there's a gigabit or gigabyte it must be gigabyte can't be gigabit that's not fast um
Starting point is 01:28:37 no why would it like loading a game from a ram disk is still like cpu limited at this point even on very powerful computers like yeah having a having fast storage is like good and for certain types of games like where you're streaming data off the ssd as you move into new environments and stuff like that you might see less hitching but in terms of like changing the way game developers develop their games i i kind of doubt it um i mean unless it's used as like a flexing demo of some sort that sony like tries to support yeah you know what i mean because ultimately any game asset that is rendered on the screen is going to be have there's going to have to be loaded into gpu memory that's where it has to come from so that just comes down to how quickly you can move things
Starting point is 01:29:28 in and out of gpu memory yeah yeah all right that's it for the show today you guys thank you for tuning in we'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel bye bye okay i'm gonna end the youtube stream here we go we're gonna try and do things in the right order for a change i've left the youtube stream like the event live while having also stopped obs and it just like leaves this empty event on yeah it's genius all right so we'll end that

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