The WAN Show - Why so shy Nvidia? - WAN Show January 7, 2022

Episode Date: January 10, 2022

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but twitch and floatplane chat and welcome to the wan show ladies and gentlemen we've got a fantastic show lined up for you guys today man was there ever a lot of tech news i mean it's ces right sort of you seen any four things that are remotely interesting have you seen any pictures from like the show i've seen yo just like not very many things there or people yeah it's it's pretty dead it's pretty dead there's not a lot of not a lot of people there uh but definitely a lot of news you got your wi-fi 6 release 2 yes yeah yes i was waiting for that we're gonna talk about that the second version of it also we've got intel just freaking deciding to be doing lots of stuff they fell asleep for like a decade and now they're waking up just what's going on they're

flailing they're swinging yeah in every direction you better watch it you could get your jaw broke you make gpus GPUs. What else we got today? NVIDIA is really, really shy about its RTX 3090 Ti. Why so shy, NVIDIA? I don't even want... Never say that again on this show. They clarified again. Never say it. Okay.

Never say... You know how many people take it seriously when I say stuff like that to you? Guys, we're just... I just want to clarify, okay? When I... Like, oh, man. Like, it's insulting on so many levels. On the one hand, it's insulting that people think

that I'm actually just a giant a**hole. And on the other hand, it's insulting that they think I'm stupid enough to show that publicly if i was such a gigantic in recorded format exactly right yeah never say those words on this show i'm so sorry i'm joking again and he's not sorry either he's gonna do it again what else we got uh i mean there's a few other things that happen to the show like a color changing phone and a color changing car but um okay the color change car is pretty cool yeah but it's not in the dog i grabbed an article so we can share it anyway so

i think it's pretty cool it is pretty cool but uh yeah, color change and car. We'll just do it. Let's roll that intro. It's going to be a real formal show. It's all about the ties. Oh my goodness. Where is it? Here it is. It's gone. Floatplane chat, I hate you so much.

What? Why? OMG, Wiseline is telling Lukeke what to say this is like way too far enough enough enough sponsors squarespace mint mobile no way mint mobile is a sponsor yeah not like ryan reynolds thing i think so and fresh FreshBooks too. All right, cool. I am officially, you know, sponsored by my fellow Vancouver. Holy crap. Do you want to curate some merch messages real quick? Because they are flying in today.

Whoa. Okay, yeah, I'm on it. People figured out that we launched something today. Why don't I talk through the Nvidia stuff? Or show it off. That's our, oh, I mean,

I guess I could do that. It's a little early in the show to just be shilling the merch. They don't think so. Okay. All right. I'll shill the merch one second. We just launched the wants, the wan pants.

Okay. They're like a jogger slash sweatpants kind of thing. Hey, Luke's rocking them too. They got the orange accents. Actually. Yeah Luke's rocking them too. They got the orange accents. Actually, yeah, that's pretty good. They got the waterproof zipper. I mean, they're sweatpants.

So like there's nothing else waterproof about the garment. We were just like, hey, waterproof zippers are sick. So I'm gonna put a YKK waterproof zipper on the butt. I like that all the pockets zip up because I find stuff falls out of sweatpant pockets way too easy. I have lost two pairs of AirPods pros because of sweatpants that don't have zippers on the pocket. So that was something that I specifically asked for on these. Yeah, that's huge for me. Like that's actually, that's massive. And then I actually finally have

a response to what the back pocket is for. Okay. So aside from the obvious joke that it's for your condoms because you're not having any sex, it's for your earphones. Okay. And it actually like doesn't interfere with where your butt sits like in the chair. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. So there you go. It's got a little zipper like in the chair yeah that makes sense yeah yeah

so uh so there you go it's got a little zipper pocket in the back for your earphones good stuff all right let's talk about nvidia nvidia tries its best and this is where the headline why are you so shy in video why are you so shy it comes from they try their best not to talk about the RTX 3090 Ti. Don't even do it. It's officially Thai, okay? And confirmed the RTX 3050. So they unveiled their most powerful GPU ever at CES on Tuesday, but they talked about it for just 25 seconds out of their 48 and a half minute

presentation, which was enough for us to find out the following. It's got 40 shader teraflops, 78 rage tracing teraflops, 320 tensor teraflops, 24 gigs of GDDR6X memory at 21 gigabit per

second, and then rumors further suggest 10,752 CUDA cores, 1560 megahertz base, 1860 megahertz boost clocks, and over one terabyte per second of memory bandwidth. That's right. They have cracked the terabyte per second memory bandwidth barrier, allegedly. have cracked the terabyte per second memory bandwidth barrier allegedly it's asking for 450 watts via either a pcie gen 5 16 pin 12 volt connector or 2 12 pin nvidia ones and has an msrp supposedly of 1699 us dollars the other thing that is not rumor but that they officially

confirmed is that it is pronounced Thai. They are, in fact, incorrect. Yes, that's right. I said it. NVIDIA is not correct about the name of their own product because nobody ever, ever pronounced, okay, the periodic element titanium Thai. Nobody ever did that.

It is short for titanium, and nobody shortens titanium to tie. TI also just sounds way cooler. It does. 3080 tie sounds lame, weak, not good. It does. 3080 TI sounds great. It does. And it's like it's like i'm sorry you know i i know this is going to be one of those things where there's going to be someone on twitter who goes linus's arrogance on full display again imagine telling a company that they're wrong about the

name of their product but you got to understand ti is not a thing that nvidia like invented they did not create the periodic table of the elements they did they did they named their titanium card like how long ago was that like 20 years ago they had the first ti suffix card or something like that i can't remember exactly how long ago it was. It was about that, though. And it was clearly titanium. So why the retcon? I don't get it. You can't just change the story. So I'm angry.

I'm angry. And that's all I had to say about that. I love how the majority of the, they didn't really talk about this graphics card topic, was just being angry about the pronunciation of tie. Well, it's just unnecessary, you know? Like, why? I will point out that they always want it called tie, but I will never consistently call it tie.

They do not always want it called tie. That is a new thing. When they launched, like, 560 TI, it was not tie. Was it really? No. Do you have like an actual clip of them saying TI for that launch? Oh, lots of. That would be very interesting. More than half the people I know at NVIDIA call it TI. Yeah. Like if you're just on a conference call with them. Yeah. Almost actually, now that I think about it, almost everyone I've ever talked to at NVIDIA. Everyone I know at NVIDIA says TI.

They say TI because it obviously is. It's just so stupid. I wonder if this is a weird thing where it's like actually a, where it's some kind of like trademark battle and they just can't publicly acknowledge it like i know amd i can't remember what product it was but they had a super cool name for a product and they ended up getting into some kind of dispute with like a football team over it because

the football team had trademarked this term in like digital media in the digital media space and technically gaming was kind of under the umbrella of digital media so even though the odds of this football team ever having any kind of conflicting product that could actually be confused for i don't even remember if it was a gpu or cpu to be honest with. But the odds of them ever having a conflicting product that could be confused is functionally zero. But in order to avoid any kind of future dispute over it, they ended up going with a completely different, stupider name for it. And so what I actually kind of wonder is if it's an issue.

Someone's suggesting that it could be an issue with Texas Instruments. Does anyone call them TI? TI-83? Yeah. Maybe that's the issue. People definitely abbreviate that as TI for sure. Like TI-83, TI-84+. I think they've pretty much always.

And I think literally in the product name at the top of the calculator, it says TI, doesn't it? Yeah, yeah, it does. So in the product name, it has TI. That's pretty interesting. So it could be. So then, okay, fine. Maybe I acknowledge that this is something maybe NVIDIA has to do.

I mean, they also just don't have to have TI in the product names at all. They have lots of suffixes. They've used Ultra. You know what I'd love to see them return to? Okay, you know how GTX went from being a suffix to being a prefix? And then it was superseded by RTX? Okay, hear me out. The RTX 3090 GTX.

Just hug it i mean if they're just if they're just gonna make up the rules as they go along anyway then who cares just throw out the rule book i i would have this doesn't matter at all i wish they kept gtx in the front and made rtx just an r at the end GTX in the front and made RTX just an R at the end. RTX just an R. Wait, GTX. GTX 3080 R. That's cool. Make the R red.

Yeah. Make it red. Yeah. I think red ain't happening at NVIDIA anytime soon, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah. You know, that's the. Oh,'s uh oh man we're gonna have to talk about the stuff that launched at ces at some point but that kind of that kind of makes me made me think how many people remember okay you know how in the tech space you got team blue who's team blue i don't okay who's team green nvidia okay who's team red? AMD. Okay. How many people remember that AMD used to be green?

Like, is it just me or is the color red the most important thing they got out of the ATI acquisition? I think it kind of is. Because yeah, the old AMD logo was green and black, right? Yeah. Yeah, essentially the same as NVIDIA. But everyone calls them team red, which is great. Yeah, I love that.

I love that. Just like, speaking of retcons, right? It's like, no, no, no, we're Team Red. We were red all along. Don't worry about that. I just get a kick out of it. Okay, we got to talk about some other NVIDIA stuff. This is insane.

The wisdom of launching an RTX 3090 Ti with a GA-102 is sort of questionable, considering the same GPU die is being used for the already unobtainium RTX 3080, 3080 Ti, and 3090. Which is probably a big part of the reason why they kind of glossed over it at the presentation. Yeah, that's fair enough. Because it's probably going to be a nothing burger. Even if they have additional fab capacity lined up, people probably won't be happy, because I don't think there just is any. The RTX 3050, on the other hand, is a much easier sell with the

only question being, where was the RTX 3050 six months ago? It'll have eight gigs of GDDR6 memory, nine shader teraflops, blah, blah, blah, tensor, something, something. Where's the CUDA core count? Okay, I don't see it here here but it's geared towards GTX 1050 owners and really anyone looking for 60 FPS 1080p gameplay you won't be able to run this card with RTX on or sorry you won't want to run this card with RTX on since it's already a struggle on existing low-end cards and NVIDIA admits that it will require dlss to reach 60 fps at 1080p but i am excited to see anything anything that is actually at an affordable price point because as soon as people have something that they can buy for 250 theoretically okay msrp 249 january 27th availability there's a there's a just to interrupt you for a second there's a super chat that i want to i want to go through right now

it says and i'm quoting this perfectly oh my god linus is showing his arrogance once again trying to tell nvidia how their product name is pronounced honestly honestly i don't make the rules okay that's how it's pronounced sorry you can keep going no one ever pronounced an element by just saying it like that the first two letters of the word yeah exactly no one ever called chlorine cluh. Okay? Nobody ever called bromine bruh. Bruh, bruh, bruh. Okay? They should. They should.

That's bromine bruh. Aluminum is not al. Al. Al. Okay? Al. Zinc. Zinc.

Can we stop? I swear I'm done. I'm done talking about it. So 3050, as soon as you can buy something modern, okay, for $250, that basically invalidates anything under, you know, $150 for older obsolete GPUs. As soon as those start to come down in price, it's a waterfall effect. And that's what's really frustrating about all of this

is NVIDIA and AMD know that they could have delivered these lower-end GPUs earlier if they had really wanted to. And they had justification to not do so because they couldn't make enough of the higher margin ones anyway. So why would they introduce new products? But that didn't stop them from introducing new products.

And from a gamer perspective, gamers don't necessarily need the highest possible density. They don't need higher performance density. That's something that benefits miners, for whom there is an actual cost per slot. And they want that sweet spot of power to, however many hashes per second it'll run, to populate a slot with.

So producing low-end cards is actually beneficial primarily for gamers who only need one card to occupy one slot. So if you can take a silicon wafer and you can slice it up into more pieces, the odds that they will end up in the hands of gamers become greater so you know i'm frustrated it didn't happen earlier but here it is now i don't know who we have to thank for this did amd pull the trigger first causing nvidia to be like we should probably do this is it pressure from intel that is causing both amd and nvidia to sit up and pay attention i don't know but thank you very much, Nvidia for finally doing what we all needed you to do a long time ago.

And I look forward to doing some budget builds for a change. Yes. It's been a long time since we've been able to fire up a stream to be like, Hey, let's build a practical gaming rig that makes any sense at a price that is palatable. I'm jazzed. I'm jazzed. I'm jazzed.

I hope it actually freaking happens. Me too. Why don't we move on to our next topic for the day? What do you want to do next? I think I'm kind of relegated to merch messages, Judy. Have you taken a look at all? Holy crap balls. I'm working on it i'm trying um holy crap uh okay uh there's some

news actually okay here why don't i do merge messages for a bit okay yeah i've got some i've got some cool news uh there's a new there's actually a few new floatplane features most of them are streaming related most of them them are backend for streaming related stuff. So it's just better. Hooray. But also there's a cool new feature that LTT is going to have to start using. So I'm going to have to do an educational thing. I'll probably send an email out over the weekend or something so that people are ready for it next week.

But there's now a tagging system. People have been asking for this for a while. Once we stopped doing early access on Floatplane for LTT, exclusives started taking more of a main stage, and there hasn't been a way to look for them specifically. Now there is. So there's a tagging system specifically for videos that is out now. It's not the absolute coolest thing ever.

Wow, what a sales pitch. you can search for it and and the creator can tag it chief technology officer floatplane media but it's not the greatest thing but the really cool version is coming down the line where channels on floatplane will have sub channels so there will be a sub channel for tech quickie for tech linked for everything and exclusives will be able to have a sub channel there that will make it very very easy to sort and see through things in the short term though there is this exclusive tagging thing so you can either click on the tag or you can search hashtag exclusives or honestly whatever you guys want to call it. Cool.

And then, yeah, that's good. Also, new creator on Floatplane. There's a new creator this week. There's also probably going to be a new creator next week. But the new creator that I'm talking about this week is Garbage Time, also known as Dankpods. If you've watched that on the YouTububes he's doing some actually really cool music streams where he plays mostly like meme songs and then he drums along with it he uh he used to be a professional gigging musician he's very good it's actually been really entertaining

to watch those so check it out if you're interested um there's probably a lot of people in the chat that have heard of dank pods because uh yeah he's pretty awesome so the chat's exploding yeah yeah pretty much he's great i've had a bunch of conversations with him he's actually like a genuinely just like really cool and wholesome dude and i'm stoked to have him on the platform so yeah um this is insane i can barely stay on top of it that's yeah that's what i was doing the whole time you're doing the Nvidia conversation. Okay. So yeah, anyways, also probably new creator joining next week and yeah, things are good.

All right, cool. Why don't we jump into our next topic of the day? Intel is a contender again. They've got their Arc GPUs. They've got the 12900KS and more. So they're already shipping their GPUs to They've got the 12900 KS and more. So they're already shipping their GPUs to OEMs, which means we're going to see them integrated into

add-in boards as well as laptops. 50 designs expected in Q1. Pretty awesome. One quick thing to add about the Dankpods thing. Flowplane has really good audio quality. That is actually a big benefit. It's a music stream.

It sounds great. So if you're into that, that's the thing. Sorry, keep going. All right, cool. I'm gonna keep talking now. Arc Alchemist is built on TSMC's N6 process, which is currently relatively clear of GPUs. That's honestly, in my opinion,

the most exciting thing about this. We're expecting Arc Alchemist to be a relatively mainstream tier GPU. And again, that's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about sheer quantity of GPUs. That's how you drive down the demand, which is how you drive down the prices. You get GPUs in the hands of gamers

who need them to play games. So it's built on the N6 process, which is completely untapped for GPUs at the hands of gamers who need them to play games. So it's built on the N6 process, which is completely untapped for GPUs at this time. So this is net new capacity. The new GPUs will be able to work in tandem with integrated Xe graphics to split up workloads, such as Intel's example of exporting video in DaVinci Resolve, accelerating the process by 40%.

They weren't done with high-end 12th Gen Core, though. They've got a new 12900ks skew and you know what i love most about the ks okay this is a binned 12900k that can do 5.5 gigahertz single core and over 5 gigahertz all core boost out of the freaking box it's cool but this is obviously something that intel wouldn't have bothered to do if they didn't feel like they had to. Isn't competition wonderful, ladies and gentlemen? It's good. We don't know exactly what to expect in terms of performance from AMD's Ryzen 7 5800X 3D, but they claimed that it will be the world's fastest gaming processor, that it is due out this spring and clearly those claims are credible enough sounding that intel felt the need to respond i love this i mean gp if gpus hadn't been such an absolute show over the last couple of years this would have actually been one of the most exciting

periods in tech yeah in recent memory if gpus were purchasable, that's it. That's it. It would be amazing. That's it. I mean... And there would be games that would actually push the hardware and like it would have been an amazing...

Yeah. Yeah. Would have been great. Okay. We got to talk about that a little bit later. I know what you're referring to is Halo Infinite and I've got something really cool to show you that is sort of Halo Infinite related.

Just remind me later. It's that thing that I was pointing to over in my bag over there um so super excited for the ks not that excited for pricing that's one thing that has happened in the cpu space is as intel and amd are absolutely pushing the limits of what they can build and what they can bin for uh we're definitely seeing prices creep up a little bit. AMD's also got the swagger to actually price their products, you know, expensively now. I've seen some sort of controversy even

around AMD's decision to make their 3D V-Cache exclusive to the 5800 tier rather than doing a 5600. I think that's an example of AMD optimizing for business rather than necessarily for the consumer. I think it's a fair enough criticism, but I also am a big enough fan of the 5800X that it doesn't really bother me that much, to be honest with you. I think that if you are serious about gaming, not just today, but tomorrow, I think that if you are serious about gaming, not just today, but tomorrow, the 5800X is a really, I think it is worth the extra layout. That's basically what I'll say about it.

Don't feel bad if you go with the 5600X. And to be clear, AM4, dead platform. And if anything, if I was buying into am4 today i would probably cheap out i'd probably go ryzen 3000 okay and i would just and i would just i'd wait it out i'd go ryzen 3000 today and then i'd sit i'd wait for later on this year when am5 is supposed to come out with support for ddr5 with zen 4, with all this hyper exciting new tech, I'd wait for all those rich kids to go out and buy AM5. And then I'd pick up a 5900X or something even. I'd go treat myself because I'm basically getting it

for a fraction of the price. I mean, that was always my jam. When I knew a platform was dead end, I was always waiting for, I was always waiting to pounce on it for when the, you know, the next new thing came out. And what's so exciting is that things are changing so fast. Things are changing so fast that you can actually like plan ahead to that degree again. I mean, there was a time when you would have heard from me, I would have said, don't even think about the future. Just

buy whatever's in front of you today, because realistically, the next one's not going to be that much better anyway. Right, though? It's true. It's true. It's so frustrating. So really, really excited to see how the heavyweight battle, or I guess you could call this more of like a middleweight battle between the 12900KS and the 5800X 3D, turns out. We've also got non-K Alder Lake SKUs. I mean, these are, honestly speaking, the real game changer for 12th gen. It's great to take back the performance crown. You know, Intel, AMD, NVIDIA, no matter who you are, Apple, you want the performance crown. You know, Intel, AMD, NVIDIA, no matter who you are,

Apple, you want the performance crown. It's such an important marketing piece. It's one of the reasons that, you know, Tesla never shuts up about their zero to 60 times, for example, because even though personally, I think the benefit of a Tesla

is so not the zero to 60 times. Yeah, it's... I mean, they have competitive ranges. They've got the media console. They've got the over-the-air updates. They've got all these other reasons, right? What was the old car thing people used to say? It was like podium sell cars or something.

It's like why all the car manufacturers used to be in all the races. It's because winning races sold cars, but I don't remember exactly how they said it. I don't remember. It was like why all the car manufacturers used to be in all the races. It's because winning races sold cars. But I don't remember exactly how they said it. I don't remember. It was like horsepower sells cars. Something. And then like torque.

Yeah. Something podiums. I'm sure someone's going to correct us. But yeah, it's not that important from necessarily a sales standpoint directly to have the performance crown but it's really important from a marketing standpoint because if you have the thousand dollar cpu that is the best one there's this perception that you make great products and if i only have two hundred dollars to spend then i'm gonna get you know one fifth of that greatness you know like that's that's the customer perception so uh what is it win on sunday sell on monday uh twitch chat says yeah that was it yeah win sunday sell monday all

right okay got it uh yeah all right cool so right 12th gen though not i mean who's actually spending five six hundred dollars on a cpu i mean i did that once yeah in the entire time the entire time that i have been a pc gaming enthusiast which is most of my life which is kind of scary to think about now like actually most of the majority of my life i spent 700 canadian okay one cpu so that was 550 us or something like that i i spent 700 canadian on a cpu once i kept it fairly long term i kept it long term So I kept it until there was like an ill-kept secret, like enthusiast one that you should get instead. And then I flipped the consumer one that everyone knew about for quite a bit. And then I actually ended up saving some money and getting more performance because it's supposed to be overclockable. So the one time I spent that kind of money on a CPU,

it was a revolutionary chip, okay? I bought a 4400 plus, Athlon X2 4400 plus. And dual core, absolute game changer. Guys, it was double the performance in certain applications, literally double. And then aside from that, they also, AMD also had the best single threaded performance at the time. It was zero compromises. It had all that cash. It was either a meg of cash

or a meg of cash per core. I can't, I can't remember anymore. It's minor details. Um, and then I didn't get rid of it because it was the king for a long time. You could overclock that thing to be equivalent to the 4,800 plus, which was like way more expensive way outside my price range at that time uh and i didn't upgrade it until i got an optron 165 so the amd's amd was selling their optron server chips on the desktop socket and you could just like get them and they were they were like supposed to be more binned or overclockable or something i think that was all nonsense anyway in retrospect uh but i just i got one of those for cheap and then I sold my 4400 plus for more. So I got like the same performance or better actually. I think my 165 was actually more overclockable

than my 4400 plus. So that was the route that I went. But that is the only time in my life I ever spent that kind of money on a CPU. And when you look at the difference in performance today with the release of the rest of Intel's 12th Gen Core lineup, you look at the difference between spending $300 or $350 and spending $600, it is nothing like it was back then. Like, to get a dual core at all at that time, you had to spend that kind of money because they were the cutting edge right even the cheapest one okay the 4200 plus was only

marginally cheaper than the 44 whereas now you can get the vast majority of the performance for a fraction of the price so you should so as much as i you know as much as we do a lot of showcase builds core i9s that that's not what most people are buying it's just that having that having that that that flagship hold the performance crown in some key application or game be it gaming i mean it's a big one obviously in the consumer space is so important because it means that regardless of what the real performance numbers are you're going to sell way more of those lower tier SKUs so that's what AMD and Intel and NVIDIA for that matter are after you know the most I ever spent on a CPU I think was sub $200 really because of the most Intel retail edge programs good old retail edge yeah I just abused that as much as i could because i'm if i remember correctly i got

one of those off of a friend before i worked there and then once i started working there i got them and then after i had worked there you know the whole told you that story before so yeah um that's a thing birch messages are just absolutely still popping off. I know. It's crazy. I'm trying to stay on top of them a little bit, but it's really hard. There's a freaking ton of them.

I can't stay on top of it. There is a lot. Okay. Color changing car? Let's talk about the color changing car. You're going to bring this up on your screen because this thing looks freaking incredible. I mean, it's something that conceptuallyually i think has been talked about before but i don't think anyone has ever done anything quite like this yeah it's this is not the gif

i don't know if there's oh you gotta find the heck you gotta find it luke i want to find the gif yeah but it it it is able to change colors they they paired up with uh e-paper e-inks prism e-paper they made essentially displays that go across the the outside of the car and it can change colors here we've got a video hold on i think i've got the here it is i've got it nice here it is check this out oh yeah there you go that is so cool so you could basically just be like oh you know what i'm gonna go with the white car today this has got to be i'm gonna go with the black card today in a heist movie right that's got to be oh that's so cool i love that yeah i, they could even just do it like digitally now.

They wouldn't even need a car that actually has the technology built into it. Right. But at least like it's possible. Yeah. Yeah. Now, I mean, I guess. It's technically believable if you see it in a heist movie now. Yeah.

I freaking love it. I think it looks really cool. Or like Q. Q gets James Bond a new car that's able to like chameleon color itself i do have to wonder you know what something like this would cost right now this is only a concept car have you ever looked into buying e-ink displays no they're so expensive really i saw someone did a project where they, they curated like various, uh, newspaper feeds from around the internet and they would have it show up on an ink display in their bathroom in

the morning. And I was like, that's actually like kind of cool. I wonder like what other projects we could do with ink displays. And I was thinking about stuff for myself, but I was also thinking like maybe we could do a video about it, whatever. And then if I remember correctly, a standard monitor sized ink display was like thousands of dollars. Like it was really expensive. I would not have expected that. I would have thought that they were actually kind of like cheap-ish.

Let me look into it really quick. Because the only places you really see them deployed in any kind of volume are like e-readers. And those are generally pretty affordable types of devices. Then again, compared to a cheap tablet that does not use an e-ink display, a Kobo reader or a Kindle is actually not that cheap. Now that I think about it. For the tier of hardware that they have inside them, like the processing power that they have. Yeah. So I guess it kind of makes sense i just it's just one of those things that i

never like as a gamer you know like i never really cared about it didn't matter to me yeah i i'm finding a lot of conflicting stuff chad is saying that monochrome is cheap color gets really expensive i also just found an article um that was posted actually like somewhat recently like it was posted in in in 2021 uh last year last year but it's like a 24 inch monitor or something 25 inch ink display it's 1500 yeah i got your screen here really yeah there's finally i love the word finally there it's finally a 25 inch for extreme extreme readers yeah i i that's ridiculous to me yeah i don't know uh a gen in the floatplane chat says that bmw when it gets a ding from a grocery cart

and part of the part of the display shop's working oh brutal because it probably i'm assuming like back end wise it probably has what what were they called when you were doing your big wall tv uh the squares oh micro led no no no no like each square was called something oh like a module yeah i'm assuming it's in modules okay so like you get dinged by a car in one module just that'd be unfortunate i have no idea i haven't read into like how it exactly goes on the car or anything but it's really cool this is probably one of the most like visually interesting things that happen at the show there's also a phone

where the body color of the phone changes when it's exposed to sunlight i believe i don't know they said the tech took two years to make it's probably highly related to transitions glasses how those work yeah because it's exposed to sunlight for 30 seconds which is an extremely similar metric to transitions glasses yeah and it's probably a glass back if i'm guessing yeah that sounds like that probably took two years because it like wasn't a major priority yeah but it's kind of neat that's yeah that's definitely cool i'd be into that yeah me too so that's kind of cool there was some cool chameleon color changing things that happened at CES and not a ton else. Because CES was even worse this year than I think it has ever previously been.

And that has been quite the trend. I'm so glad I didn't have to go. This is two years in a row now I have not had to go to CES. It's been validating seeing like really old media talking about how CES has been getting worse for the last little while. Because when we first went, I actually thought it was like amazing.

And like, okay, I didn't like Las Vegas. No, Luke's not a big Vegas guy. No. Yep. But like the show was fantastic, right? And then we're there for quite a while. And I'm like, okay, am I just getting sour? Like, have I just done this too much? And now I don't care anymore,

but like, I think, yeah, I think the show's just worse. I think that's honestly what's happening. Um, cause I remember like the first couple of years we were there, you could walk around the show floor and just content would just happen. Cause you'd walk past some booth and you're like yeah that's crazy let's film that and now it's like well there's 47 000 phone cases and 82 000 vacuums oh man when the when the phone cases took over ces that was a bad year it was not cool no not cool man what are some of those what are some of those phone case companies that were just like enormous they would have these like gigantic booths i can't even remember anymore because no one cares multiple floors yeah like phone cases are just commodity at this point yeah um other

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send the bill to thanks yeah like why has this process of getting a device registered on a network been so complicated for so long well i mean i know the answer is because they all want you to be locked into their devices and blah blah blah blah what i just got a fantastic merch message that face it almost looks like it's curated mr reynolds showed up in our chat or something like no not quite if he did i would be i'd be i'd be super i'd be that'd be pretty cool yeah um he may or may not be on my list it's okay, my dude. Sorry, sorry.

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phones in cash yeah number two i know for a fact that um jake has a company phone plan so is this is this your dealer phone jake you know what you know what it's fine it's fine i don't even we don't have to talk about that uh let's talk instead about wi-fi 7 jk wi-Fi 6 release 2. Nice. Version 4. Yeah. That part's not true. There's some notes here.

Wi-Fi 6 adoption has outpaced previous generations. I mean, that's easier when you just redefine everything as Wi-Fi 6. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I'm getting ahead of myself. Wi-Fi certified 6 release 2 is the latest certification from the Wi-Fi alliance. It supports uplink multi-user mobile input output mobile multiple input output so multi-user mimo uh which means it'll have like better support for more wi-fi 6 devices entering the market because they'll they'll have more of them connected to aps at a time and it it'll help balance them. Supports new low power and sleep mode enhancements,

including broadcast target wake time, extended sleep mode, and dynamic multi-user spatial multiplexing power save. Wow. Sounds honestly... That's a lot of words. This is that whole thing where the difference between a sufficiently complex science and magic

is indistinguishable. That honestly is just Wi-Fi in general for me. Some of the stuff it does where it's like, yeah, okay, so I can have like these spatial streams and this one's like direct and this one's going to bounce off the couch and like hit the ceiling and go there. So I need to make sure I time the transmission so that they're all going to arrive at the same time. Like what? Anyway, release 2's features apply across all the supported bands. So that's 2.4 gigahertz, 5 gigahertz, and 6 gigahertz. And Wi-Fi 6 release 2 is more of an enhancement for Wi-Fi 6 and Wi-Fi 6e,

not a replacement for them. So now we've got the USB mesh. We've got the HDMI mesh. And we've got the USB mess. We've got the HDMI mess. And we've got the Wi-Fi mess. I quit. I've got so many merch messages. It probably wouldn't even matter. I could just carry the whole show.

It's painful. It's painful, man. I just don't know. I don't know what to say like honestly the hdmi one in particular so if you guys haven't been paying attention hdmi 2.1 oh shoot no it's hdmi 2.1a now so first they retconned hdmi 2.0 all hdmi 2.0 devices and 2.1 devices became HDMI 2.1. Now they've retconned that and they are all HDMI 2.1a. And then all of what we previously understood to be the features of 2.0, 2.1, and 2.1a, which do actually, according to the old way of thinking, have unique features to them.

All of those are now considered to be optional features of the new consolidated HDMI 2.1 spec. serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever other than to help unscrupulous manufacturers deceive consumers. That is the literal only possible reason that this can exist. That's it. And the craziest part is it's at the point where I've had manufacturers that don't like this reach out to me and go do you know anything about this like are we seriously gonna have to certify hdmi 2.0 ports as hdmi 2.1a but only supporting 18 gigabit per second transfer rates so they can't do 4k 120 like is that is that actually how this would you know do you have any idea what's going on right now and to give you an idea of why this is why this is so stupid you know there's devices where it might not be that meaningful okay so something like an xbox series x right in terms of the understood functionality i think that's this

is a gaming device where I think people are going to look at the spec sheet. They're going to go, okay, it supports 4K 120 or does it do 8K 60? I can't remember. It doesn't matter. The point is it does 4K 120, right? And so they're going to know to look for that. But let's take something like an Apple MacBook M1. The MacBook M1 is only HDMI 2.0, which was a point of contention with the computer community as a whole because they were like, oh, hey, that's actually not very future-proof in terms of connecting external high-resolution displays to this thing. That actually kind of bites. And so now, all of a sudden, when Apple refreshes the M1 MacBook, even if they don't update that HDMI port

to support greater bandwidth, it will still now magically be the MacBook with HDMI 2.1a. It's going to be so confusing. I mean, it was already confusing enough, right? When you had HDMI ports that only did 4K 30 hertz, right? Yeah. Back during the transition from 1.4 to 2.0.

It was really rough. Yeah. It was really rough. You had to really dig into the spec sheet or even ask the manufacturer something. Hey, is this 1.4 or 2.0? Well, now there doesn't even exist terminology to properly find out what's going on. Okay, there does. But I can't even remember what it is.

I read an article about it the other day. It's some type of signal encoding that you have to ask if it supports so that you'll know if it'll do up to 48 gigabit per second. And the craziest part is you can even have devices that support that type of signal encoding, like LG had their, oh shoot, what generation was it? Was it the 1 series or the X series?

I think it's the 1 series. But they had a generation of TVs that didn't support the full maximum bandwidth of HDMI 2.1, even though it supported most of it. I just, I can't fathom how we think that moving backwards and making spec names not mean anything is helpful in any way whatsoever. I'm sorry, I'm getting a little,

I'm getting a little passionate here. Well, I mean, I'm pretty sure we've actually been talking about this type of like naming scheme problem on WAN Show since WAN Show started. So what you're saying is it's not getting better. No, it's potentially getting worse. I don't know. This last year has felt really bad because of the big three that you just talked about. I feel like it was actually maybe getting a little bit better in kind of the big three that you just talked about um i feel like it was actually maybe getting a little bit better in kind of the middle there but recently it's been really taking a taking a

downturn well all right what do you want to talk about next potentially merch messages um i mean i guess we could do that. Sure. Destroyer Samuel says, DisplayPort for the win. Yeah, DisplayPort is our... It's holding out. Our last hope. Yeah. Our last hope.

All right. Yeah, let's do some merch messages. You go to the curated section. And you keep managing the incoming ones? I'll keep going with incoming, yeah. Okay, do some, let's do some merch messages. You go to the curated section. And you keep managing the incoming ones. I'll keep going with incoming, yeah. Okay, this is insane. Yeah. Uh, all right, Lauren.

Hey Linus, I'm a middle school technology teacher. I teach coding, robotics, 3D printing, and computer applications. In your opinion, what do middle schoolers need to learn about computers? Coding, applications, hardware. Oh man. So this could be so much of a deeper conversation. I could, man, I could talk about this one for hours. But personally, I think that we should do a lot more to streamline learning at the secondary school level. I think that here in, I'm assuming that you're in North America with me. You might not be, but some countries already do this. But I do think that students should be sorted based on

aptitude and desire, of course. I mean, these are choices. We shouldn't just be making them for people, but students should be sorted based on aptitude and desire and a little bit more focused. The cold hard truth is not everybody needs to know how to calculate the molar mass of some chemical that gets combined in a reaction with some other chemical and what it makes. I have never, never needed to know that in my adult life. Me neither. And if I did, I'd look it up. You would look it up and or you would just find a guide or a calculator or whatever the

case may be. So there's a lot of stuff. And I'm not saying that I don't appreciate the education I got. There's a lot of stuff that I did learn. I mean, even even like that, that gives me the background that I need to understand an article that I'm reading about something that might not even be directly related, like it's, it's super valuable. But I think for the vast majority of the population, that will not come up even once between the day they turn 18 and reach adulthood and the day they turn 88 and die. Like, it just, it is very unlikely. There's something to be said about being able to kind of graze across a bunch of topics. Yeah.

But I think there's a different way to do it. But I think there's a different way to do it. I do think there's a different way to do it. And I think that there's a lot of stuff that I didn't learn in school that I'm really frustrated that I didn't. And I think, honestly, I think a big part of the problem, Jake's talking about how to do their taxes.

Heck yeah. I think a big part of the problem is that teachers and educators more generally have a bit of a bias towards education, peer education for the sake of education. And so I think that because these are people who spent their lives learning molar masses or learning how to calculate and draw out all the different forces interacting on an object or whatever the case may be, I think because they spend their lives pursuing that type of knowledge um and they don't necessarily and they didn't

necessarily become experts on things like personal tax planning those types of topics basically functionally do not get covered at least here in bc canada 20 years ago when i was actually in school so take this for the outdated and region-specific rant that it is but um i think that long story short coming back to your question it really depends on what they want to do with their life because asking like okay not everyone needs to learn how to code yeah and you can code you can be a great programmer and basically not give two hoots about the hardware side you have to kind of understand how a computer works but i mean they have hardware engineers for that like that's what that's what those guys do they. They and the firmware folks will create the API that your program will interact with. And it ain't your problem.

And the better you understand how the hardware works, maybe the more of a superstar programmer you can become. At the same time, if you're wanting to become some form of engineer, like a certain level of understanding about development is probably going to be good but that's a different that's a different type and level of learning than someone who wants to become like a software engineer or computer scientist would would undergo and then you ask about applications i would say that if you want to get into media production for example or you want to get into uh the film industry you should focus 100 of your time on applications and you don't need to know basically anything other than, you know, I mean, I think a little bit of knowledge of scripting would probably be valuable, you know, on the coding side, you know, being able to recognize that, you know, this kind of configuration is more optimal for running my application than this other kind of

configuration. But you should spend pretty much all of your time mastering the tools that you're actually going to use for your job. So that's the, the short answer is it really is student dependent. Um, I've, I've, by the way, your job sounds super cool. I always thought it was interesting. Like I had this home ec class that I had to take. Um, and it was, it was sewing, cooking. um and it was it was sewing cooking i feel like there was something else drama art all right okay maybe we had two of those we had one where you did like drama wood shop and something else and we had one where you did art sewing and cooking yeah we had we had we had sewing cooking and i think maybe art and then we had woodwork metal work and shop and i really. And then we had woodwork, metalwork, and shop.

And I really liked the idea of doing the woodwork, metalwork, and shop one. And I think electronics was in that as well. But the other one, I was like, you know what? I got nothing against them. There is no way I'm going to grow up to be someone who sews things. He knows who he is. Okay, ladies and gentlemen. Yes.

That was probably one of the lowest grades I've himself man knows himself i was really bad at it even when i was trying and i had to try at least a little bit because i would have failed like it was a problem um the the cooking one i was like okay i can cook what i need to cook yeah i'm not going to become a chef i actually really like cooking but i don't think working in a kitchen would be my thing so whatever like i knew all this when i was in grade eight when they made me take the course i remember thinking in grade eight like i know this this isn't a question this isn't a possibility i'm going to waste an entire semester in this one class completely waste it because it's never going to matter i know how to cook i didn't learn any of it from that class i have never needed to sew

something and if i did i would take it to someone who is significantly better at it than i am what if they had a class at that time that had focused on seductive cooking we talked about this on a previous show i feel like that wouldn't fly in like a high school oh man i feel like the kids in the high school would probably find that more useful so anyway um anonymous asks are there any vr projects you guys are looking forward to in 2022 honestly all i do is play beat saber so i heard that meta's attempt at like a like virtual like kind of a vr chat competitor basically immediately turned into all the same problems that vr chat has nice perfect so i kind of laughed about that i saw that coming um other than that i mean i'm always i'm always hoping for

better headsets uh if if something at the quality and refresh rate of the Index could be wireless, that'd be super cool. That's the big waiting for it. Yeah, Quest 2 is not quite there. I'm also extra, extra ready for a high refresh rate, high resolution OLED display. It's very noticeable, like far more than on a gaming monitor. The smearing as you're looking around is extremely noticeable even on the highest end headsets today so uh there's nothing

specific that i can think of but that that comes to mind uh ben this is hi linus and luke i recently got an 8k tv and i struggle to find content besides youtube would you consider uploading in 8k or would there be a bottleneck in your workflow if you were to do so we actually recently downgraded our cameras we are now shooting on fx3s and fx6s which are 4k cameras rather than our reds the vast majority of the time we still shoot some stuff on red but we export everything at 4k because the reality of it is you are more limited by the bit rate that youtube delivers than by the number of pixels that you are packing into your exported file. So you should, we could still export them in 8K and we could upload them as 8K.

It would be a little disruptive to the workflow, but the main reason, but you would probably still get a benefit to the picture quality because it would serve you a higher bit rate. Really though, for for us we want to solve hdr before we bother moving to 8k because from a from a from a perception standpoint it makes a larger difference to the quality than just upping the resolution in my opinion so jake

actually pointed out and i forgot about this but it's totally true my i have this valve lanyard that i've liked for a long time and it it fell apart okay the threading completely lost it and jake was like i was like oh no i'm sad this is garbage now because despite taking one course of sewing i probably can't sew these like two extremely basic pieces of fabric together that's kind of sad jake took it home to his mom and it's it's holding up still it was great so like yeah I got nothing from that class there's very few things in my life that I will not try to fix if they break and that broke and I was immediately like guess it's garbage and taking that class would not have yeah that did not save me yeah there's a lot of people asking

when will the matching WAN hoodies be back on the site so I can get the rest of the set? Okay. There's also a question coming up that asked about, like this color, the color of the indoor jacket. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're wondering if there was going to be pants that match that type of color.

Ah, ooh, I don't think we have it in the plan. Unfortunately, I don't think that's in the plan right now. Let me just check my email from Nick and I will get you the answer because Nick keeps track of all this stuff. Oh, yeah, this is the one. WAN hoodie and Swacket containers are in the port now but they are not unloaded from the vessel yet this is as of yesterday okay so a month who knows who knows i don't know it will probably get taken off the vessel and put in a warehouse temporarily no it'll

just be hucked in a field somewhere oh because it's a container right oh yeah so yeah if you wanted to search through every just in storage container in the lower mainland you might find one for free but don't do that don't do that that's a crime yeah it's like a very criminal um but i yeah i theoretically theoretically when it's at that stage, we could be launching it next week, theoretically. But that just is not the way that things have worked out. It's been taking weeks. It's been incredibly frustrating. So we'll get them as soon as we can.

There's a lot of people who asked about that. So I think that's going to address a lot of the merch messages people sent. Karen G asks, thoughts on a liquid metal, possibly mercury water cooling or like liquid cooling loop? Obviously not good for daily driving. So we threw around the idea actually before.

The concern with mercury is that it eats things, for one. Concern number two is that it's highly toxic. Concern number three is that when you heat it, it like gets out into the air. So we will never do that but cool idea uh definitely love the idea uh it's just that in the real world it just it just don't work that way uh peter h uh when are we expecting the screwdriver and bag to cost exactly i gotta have gift cards ready so that when i buy them it doesn't hit my wallet so hard all right i'm speaking way out of turn here because these are decisions that i make alongside nick light but my expectation

is that the screwdriver will be somewhere in the non-committal yeah yeah this is not a commitment the screwdriver will be somewhere in the $70 range for the standard edition. 70 US. Okay. That's for the standard edition. It is possible there will be other editions that are available for more. I would love to do like a Lux screwdriver. And I've got some ideas for what that might look like.

It's just, it's like the stupidest stuff ever, guys. Like it's one of those things where with a straight face, I could never tell you buy this, but I just want to make it because it's really cool. This is what happens when you put like some idiot YouTube influencer in charge of your product development. It's like, ah, yes, make it so, make it so. And like the engineers are just like really you know um as for the backpack i expect it to be somewhere in the neighborhood

of 250 to 300 us dollars it will not be cheap quality but it's awesome i absolutely love it i've been daily driving it um i i'm yeah it's it's really great so uh they're gonna hurt the wallet i promise it but they're gonna be awesome uh tyler r asks any chance of a ball pouch version of the underwear um gotta confess not endowed enough for that to have been a concern for me. Never thought of it. I don't think we have it in the plan anytime soon. We're definitely looking at more underwear,

particularly we've had a lot of requests for women's underwear, so we're working on that. But no promises for ball underwear, but your request is noted. Thank you for that, and congratulations. What a way to end. Congratulations. That's funny uh adam r says i work for a state agency in the u.s in a cyber crime unit helping the most vulnerable in our society our hospital our office is in desperate

need of a tech makeover would lmg be interested in a video collab addressing the same wow weird um it's crazy to me that you guys need a tech makeover yeah so i didn't know when i clicked this one like is this a government agency because if so like sounds like it i don't even think we'd be allowed yeah i i don't know if we'd i don't know if we'd even be able to do that i I think the whole cyber crime thing is interesting, but a tech makeover is probably literally not okay. Yeah. So cool suggestion. You know what?

I'm going to respectfully decline, I think, on this one. It would be pretty cool, but I just feel like we wouldn't really be able to show anything, which would make the content just me walking around in a completely blurred out frame. Uh, speaking of which, uh, control F fab. I know I saw some questions about the Intel fab trip. Um, Oh, that wasn't it. Okay. Oh, nevermind. mind well they're coming as soon as they can i i haven't heard back from my intel rep to the point where i'm actually like kind of worried about him so well like i'm sure i'm sure he's fine i'm sure i would have i'm sure i would have

been notified of his you know role replacement or whatever if he was you know dead or fired or something yeah but um hopefully you're okay ew um ping me if you if you want to uh he might just be avoiding me because he's busy and he's at ces right now and reviewing our videos and trying to get all the executives lined up to get the fab videos going is going to be a bit of a bear but um yeah they'll come out as soon as they're ready uh oh halo infinite thingy oh yes okay thanks thanks thanks for the punch in okay so first of all the backpack is amazing yep and all the device this always stuns me this part i find fascinating because you've been how long have you been using this now uh i don't know like over a month though oh it's gotta be way over a month yeah i don't know exactly is this the same one you've been using yeah yeah i took it with me and to tel aviv and all that yeah it's got to be way

over a month yeah it looks brand new well yeah and it's looked brand new the whole time well yeah i find that fascinating for a backpack because backpacks get beat up just like naturally so i got all my tech pockets right got my oh crap I better find my framework before I go home. Okay, well, my laptop's supposed to be in there. And then I've got my couple of handheld devices. Okay, so this one is super cool. I know that I just announced the next, which is a follow-up to this.

This is the Neo Pro, okay? But Luke hasn't seen this thing and it is really freaking cool you've no no you haven't seen it in action true so i've i've been a little slow about getting my review done of it um and the reason for that is that i've just been a little slow sorry everyone uh but i'm finally on top of it and And man, is this thing ever cool. Unfortunately, this is going to take me a minute to get signed in. So do you want to do a couple of merch messages while I de-stupidify this?

Okay. Sorry, one sec. Some of these I'm going to have to kind of ask you. So Matthew B says, been watching for years. Thanks for making such great products. Know you've been making a lot of jackets. Do you plan on making a waterproof rain shell uh oh uh yes um oh wow i did not expect that so this was actually included in the in the creator warehouse um in the creator Warehouse newsletter, which you should definitely subscribe to.

It's super cool. They talk about sort of behind the scenes, the tech of what we're working on. So Kyle's done a thing on injection molding. Sarah's talked about just color choices. And this is actually featuring the kind of, the 3D printed down is what the manufacturer calls it. But essentially what it is is a super high R value. So super high insulation value, but hyper thin and really comfortable material

with a waterproof, ever so slightly stretchy shell. Which is nice. That I think is going to be absolutely killer uh we've got looks really sure is this the final design no no so i already like the like stealth lines and stuff those are going to be stealthier uh we found that they were a little bit too loud once you're actually wearing it sure um and then i think the back is going to be more like like dots or something instead of this big line. The fit is bang on, but there's some other details we need to figure out.

Like this Velcro is awful. It's abominable. So we'll have to deal with that. The hood fit is excellent. The taping is excellent. So we're really pleased. Oh, do you have dual lines on the hood? We're really pleased with this manufacturer overall.

Waterproof zippers, obviously, everywhere. I think it might be kind of cool to do an interior pocket now that I think about it. Yeah, it's still very much in development, but it'll happen. I've been asked to try it on. Okay, fine, one sec. Do you want to do another thing in the meantime?

Yeah. Just trying to find one. Okay, I'm going to save that one for when linus is more available so just like a pretty yeah that looks really sharp yeah so we're gonna we're gonna fix this thing it's got kind of like a flap here okay um so we're either going to go all the way down or we're going to eliminate it entirely and just do like a little zipper garage at the top and it kind of gets in the way so these are the kinds of little details that we catch when yeah when we're daily driving the uh the early production units but yeah that's what it looks like really like the fit it looks really sharp no restriction on it whatsoever um i trust that the the new design

directions will only improve it but i'm like a big fan of its aesthetic already yeah i've been wearing it like every day i'm excited to wear it snowboarding at some point it's not really designed for that do you know how i'm warm do you know what i do though right you're a warm boy yeah so all i do is i wear a sweater and a rain shell i don't i don't wear like a snowboarding jacket because they're usually too hot for me um there are long enough though it's not really long enough for that it's really not designed for that i don't want to oversell it no one else should do this it's for like but i'm probably gonna do it it's for like four to ten degrees outside weather and raining and just kind of like miserable ugly sort of low but not below freezing weather

that's what it's really designed for we're doing the fit kind of uh kind of bulky so that if like i often layer up so i'll wear a stealth hoodie or i'll wear a wan hoodie under it yeah and that's very intentional i like that use case for those shells uh while you keep on working on that someone asks are there any plans for ltd socks yes there is i don't know if there's any updates on it uh yeah the prototypes on my desk upstairs man but lots of stuff going on but uh we have been working on socks for over a year yeah and uh well over a year actually it's been about a year and a half and i have yet to find something that i'm happy with we've got a manufacturer whose quality I am pleased with, but we are still working to get the exact composition

and the exact weave of the Merino correct. And one of the things that, what I will do in the meantime is I'll endorse another sock manufacturer who makes an absolutely great product. Can't go wrong. They're called Darn Tough. They make socks in Vermont.

They're extremely expensive, but they, man, these things last like nothing i have ever seen before in my life and they even have orange ones oh i'm not wearing the orange ones today well i've had a lot of people speculate that i'm wearing ltd socks when i wear the orange ones uh but they're not they're darn tough socks and if we can't if we can't reach that tier of quality we're basically just not going to make socks so have you talked to darn tough we have they don't do oem work so we kind of went okay well fair enough then we're gonna have to we're gonna have to take our business elsewhere yeah and yeah so we're yeah we're we're we're trying we're trying to get there um one of the big challenges right now is they do an outstanding job of making the sock cushioned and yet structurally sound so

one of the problems i run into is when i'm putting my sock into something like a tight fitting gym shoe uh like something that's designed to fit really tight like a badminton shoe or something like a snowboard boot yeah right you don't want the heel to get pulled up halfway up your calf so you need something that has enough structure to the base of it that it's not going to get pulled around on your foot and you know even just you know wearing my daily driver sandals or whatever uh if you move sideways i hate it when my socks slip yes around on my foot the worst drives me absolutely crazy so i miss tech news says prime packet wrong show wrong show it's not a tech news show um so we want something that is going to hold up to all the all the little sort of irritations that i have with crappy socks and

it's been it's been totally a thing yep it's been difficult uh j's totally a thing. Yep, it's been difficult. Joseph S. says, Winter Stealth Bottle, in brackets, white on white, when? P.S. I am now going to start calling bromine bro. I hate it. I hate it so much. Winter Stealth Bottle, I actually would be surprised if we ever do it, to be honest with you. And the reason for that

is that we have experimented with that color scheme before and it really just did not translate i think i remember it looking weird there is a water bottle project that i don't know if we're talking about that i'm actually very excited for the thick boy the thick boy yeah there's gonna be there's gonna be a there's gonna be a bigger water bottle it's huge it's like a day's worth of water in one bottle which is totally what i want that's fantastic if i can just fill it up in the morning and if i drink the whole thing by the time i go to bed i'm like pretty solid ridiculous all right i love it um ounces can we say ounces yet i don't remember how many it is 64 i think okay i'm pretty sure

i'm not 100 i could have said that it's ludicrous don't quote me yeah don't don't quote him on that because we we're just dumb people that have no idea what's going on talk to nick yeah uh brin at well don't talk to nick don't bother nick it is the weekend okay that's why no tweet him no don't no don't don't that's how i that's we're gonna lose our leaking privileges we're not going to be allowed to leak product anymore if it ruins nick's weekend every time don't. Tweet them now. No, don't, don't. That's how I, that's, we're going to lose our leaking privileges. We're not going to be allowed to leak product anymore if it ruins Nick's weekend every time. Don't tweet them. If you want to learn more about products, don't. Subscribe to the newsletter.

Yeah. Okay, all right. Big brain. Okay, so this is really cool. This is Halo Infinite running on a handheld. Okay, one second, one second. Just chill, just chill. Where's the stupid quick...

No, where's the bot bootcamp? Here we go. Sure, whatever, play. Okay, okay. This is like kind of mind blowing. Now, this is not, okay, this is not running RDNA 2 graphics like the upcoming Steam Deck will. But unlike their previous one,

which I actually have in my tech backpack as well. I love this thing. Unlike their previous one, the Aya Neo, or Aya Neo Founder Edition one, it's got, what are they vega 8 rather than vega 6 graphics so it's a full like 30 percent wider gpu core and it's clocked 15 percent higher which based on the performance numbers that i saw of the of this one the founders against the steam deck prototype that i tested puts it within striking distance. Although there's still lots of room for Valve to optimize.

I love this, by the way. I got to talk about Jake's comment here in a second. There's still lots of room for Valve to optimize both on the hardware side and on the software side, especially because they're running such a lightweight operating system. You see how much they shed from the size of their SteamOS 3.0 image? No. I forget what it was, but it was like obscene. Like it's a fraction the size that it was before. They just de-bloated the crap out of it.

Crazy. This is great. Jake asks, can the AYA play Anno? I've got Jake into Anno now. What, actually? Well, he saw me playing around with it when we did a video at my new house. And he had always kind of

made fun of me for it actually he's like oh he's talking about ano uh and then he messages me like shortly afterward he's like okay i'm gonna try ano should i try ano i'm like well it's kind of a polarizing game it's not for everyone um but if you like optimizing things and if you like building style games you might really enjoy it or if you can pair with someone who does and he's been he's been messaging me about it and like he's been he's been like into it now it's great we should make a we should make a three-person uh whatever you call it expedition something okay here you go here you go try it out try it out that is halo infinite running on oh wait actually hold on hold on do i even have it in uh do i even have it in like juicer mode i do i do so you can it's really cool uh this is some software

they added you can actually configure your tdp of the chip on the fly so you can just be like uh yeah i want to run in balanced 15 watt mode you double tap well normally you double tap it all right it's being stupid right now of course when you go to demo something it immediately breaks but uh we're we're in like big big chungus 20 watt mode right now a question for you while i play with this for a second um any chances uh joshua w says oh it's gone uh any chances for kid-sized shirts is what he asked. We want to do kid-sized shirts. Right now, our insurance does not allow us to do children's garments. And it's not an impossible thing for us to do.

But it's something that we potentially could do in the future. So yeah, we'll see how that goes. Jonathan asks, how do you tell a good pc distributor for commercial uses i've been trying to find one for a long time but haven't found one that's reliable do you have any recommendations honestly i don't even know what a commercial user looks for in a pc distributor um what are the what are the differences is there a reason you wouldn't just buy in bulk from like Newegg or Amazon? Do they have corporate reps? Sorry. I just, I have not been concerned with procurement in a very, very long time.

So playing a shooter game on a controller feels like butthole. Okay. But it feels like it's running well. What's the frame rate at? It's up here. I've got a frame view running. Oh, average. Yeah. Okay. So it's hitting well what's the frame rate at it's up here i've got a frame view running oh average yeah okay so it's hitting around 30 yeah which like no i did not expect 60 fps and halo infinite on this thing but it is 100 playable yeah pretty cool right that's pretty nuts actually

that's cool that's exciting this thing is like that gives me more hope for steam deck kind of sick it's also interesting that it's running halo infinite and the air out of the back which my hand 100 went over yeah it's cool well but that's the intake so the exhaust is out the top where it doesn't interfere with your hands at all that makes sense and i'm just halo infinite is just it's mostly interesting from a what really really heavy game yeah kind of standpoint just because it's such a heavy game and it's obviously popular right now but for me the bigger one is that you can run breath of the wild at over 30 fps on this thing and that's in the 15

watts somewhat reasonable mode that won't chew through the battery in like two hours right so what's crazy about this is that it's the do absolutely anything computer yeah literally yeah it's sweet anything because you can dock it and uh expand with screens and peripherals and whatever i've got playstation running on it i've got ps2 running on it i've got um the wii u version of breath of the wild running on it i've got pc games running on it it's like there's nothing it can't do in the current environment of hardware prices is it like that bad of an idea for someone to just buy one of those well the thing is that the steam deck is sort of in this sort of does it exist, does it not exist stage where it is announced, but you can't buy one

and Valve says they will ship it at X time, but they could easily delay it. I mean, it wouldn't be the first time that Valve ever delayed a product. And we don't know how friendly Windows will be on it either. I think it'll be fine i think that valve is i think that valve is clever enough people to understand that not everybody is going to want to run steam os 3.0 hopefully it's great and everybody does but yeah i i agree i i

think it's not realistic for everyone to end up running steam os 3.0 at it on it and i think that valve is absolutely going to be doing the smart thing and internally validating the device on Windows for sure. There's just absolutely no way they don't do it. Martin M says, let's see how long this takes to come. Still waiting on a previous order.

Hit up support. Yeah, do, but also understand that they are a little bit backlogged right now. They are super swamped. We've had time off because of the holidays because we're not a totally horrible employer to work for and then also there's an influx of messages over the holidays joe doesn't know this um and neither does nick but i'm going to talk to nick about joe potentially helping oh okay that would be really helpful they told me their support ticket number today and my

jaw hit the floor so hard i almost flipped over. Yeah, we're trying. We're trying. You got to understand we are not Amazon. You know, we don't have call centers around the world that are monitoring tickets and calls. Like we're still a pretty small operation, but we're absolutely doing our best. And once we do get back to you, I promise we'll get whatever it is taken care of.

Yep. Starlet Scarf, a big fan of yours for years, or been a fan of yours for years, not a big one. Sorry, small one maybe. I'm a visually impaired CS major. You've inspired me every step of the way. Any thoughts on the difference in some USB-C cables capability, like PD versus transfer rates?

I've seen many people have issues with this. Oh, what a rabbit hole that one is. When we do our cables, and that's a when, not an if, that is absolutely something that we are going to clearly mark on them. I promise you, this is my personal Linus Tech Tips guarantee. We will never mark an HDMI 2.0 cable, HDMI 2.1a cable. Our PD ratings, our maximum rated transfer speeds they will be accurate and they will be clearly marked I promise there's nothing I can do about

the cluster that exists in the current space we will hopefully be able to list uh or link to a labs page on the cable even um hopefully eventually hopefully maybe that's the goal um you never replied to my email about that what we need to have a meeting about like creating a like a scope i did reply well when did you reply was it like today uh maybe i didn't reply luke getting called out luke getting called out live on one show no i reply from you um did i talk to you about it outside of the email weird so we need to have a meeting sort of defining what the the scope is for that it doesn't take over linus tech tips.com and then the forum becomes like a discussion sub site does it do we create a new domain for it i don't know we need to figure all that out but we've got time yeah um what we're talking about uh well we're just going

through merch messages oh yeah we're talking about usb cables uh okay uh david t says how come the wan hoodie only has a two-piece hood but the stealth hoodie and the swag kit v2 have three-piece hoods that is a tremendous question. And if Hannah or Bridget were here, I'm sure they would be able to tell you. Matthew from our team was not actually involved in any of those garments, but he'd probably be able to tell you too. So those are our fashion designer,

fit technician team. I have no idea. I'm sorry. Frugivore, hopefully I'm saying that right. In the float plane chat said, no, keep the forum. He wasn't saying getting rid of the forum. No, no, it would just be navigational changes yeah navigational changes

yeah um it would still be there it would be a way for the forum's existence to be justified from a business standpoint because I promise you it doesn't make money uh Brendan says this will go so well with my line of work how does hot coffee hold up in the bottles? Okay, so it is a water bottle. We do not endorse the use of other liquids in the bottle. However, I have seen many user reports that it keeps coffee hot very well. The one challenge for me with putting anything other than coffee in,

in any water bottle, I don't like putting non-water coffee in any water bottle, I don't like putting non-water beverages in water bottles. You got to only do that thing forever. Pretty much. And the challenge is that cleaning them is a bit of a chore because it's hard to get in there and you should never put an insulated water bottle in the dishwasher. So as long as you've got a scrubby for cleaning it out or you don't mind having like coffee residue

inside your bottle, then I can't stop you from doing that. It's your product. It's your thing. It's your item. Yeah, you own it, but I don't. It's a water bottle. That is the officially supported liquid.

Being like that about it, being all corporate. Bryn asks, I'm curious to hear what if any tech you guys are excited for that isn't quite ready for prime time but feels like it's around the corner i feel like my answer is kind of cop out for this um and it's definitely ready for prime time because the app that goes along with it was number one on the app store at christmas time tiktok no you're into tiktok you want more tiktok no you sure yes more dancing and singing along with stolen music don't really like tiktok too much um no but it's a little more it's vr i i think it's very close that is a cop out answer thank you the quest 2 is fantastic but it's not really there you know it's it's like it's so close

but i still fit when i'm trying to move the controllers around it still feels a little laggy and i know they don't have external sensors and all this kind of stuff i know what they're fighting against is like huge and what they've accomplished with the quest 2 is very respectable but i'm really excited for like the next few steps of vr and i've never felt like we were there's been times in the past where i had kind of a sense of despair about vr because like it's not there and it's going to take so long and now i'm like it's not there but i feel it and it's right around the corner and i'm really stoked so that's's, I guess that's my answer. Yep, that was a cop-out answer. It was.

Honestly, handheld gaming is something I'm super passionate about. It's kind of a cop-out answer you literally had on the desk. Going back to the NVIDIA Shield, right? That Android gaming portable that they had, Shield Portable, I guess they retconned the name too. I absolutely loved that thing. I love the concept of streaming games

locally from a higher powered machine over the network that's something I'm also super excited about I mean Dell even showed off a concept of a gaming server inside your home at CES yep it's exactly what we talked about on the WAN show like six years ago

and we have a demo coming with one GPU, four gamers where we do the same thing we take a consumer nvidia gpu and split it out into multiple workers and then people can remote in through the network and use parsec to actually game on the same machine at a time super cool um those are technologies that i'm really excited about like the mobility of computing and gaming in particular because that's like you know yeah i mean it's neat i can track my steps or whatever but unless the screen is big enough to play games it's hard for it to really hold my attention is the truth yeah um okay there's a big discussion

in floatplane chat uh led by a prime and jake of all people about well why shouldn't we be allowed to put our water bottles in the dishwasher if we have a no heat setting yes if you have a no heat setting on your dishwasher you can put it in the dishwasher if you really want to I'm just for the sake of for the sake of just protecting you know the people who are can't be trusted to set their dishwasher exactly correctly every time we say it's not dishwasher safe. But yes, you could do that. Yeah. All right. Yeah, no, we don't own an aircraft yet.

That's a merch message that just came in. Not yet, anyway. Joshua asks, Linus, what is the complete story behind you and your NCIX days telling vendors ahead of time no we have no intention of paying you also do you guys have enough in stock of the land pants okay so that's not is that from the roast is that from taryn telling that story in the roast or something like that okay so i'm trying to figure out what that is in reference to maybe i told the story but but basically um i i told a vendor that we um just i was talking about my order and i said hey um i forget exactly what i said it was either something along the lines of like i need net 60

terms because realistically uh we're gonna pay in net anyway, even if you give us net 30 terms, it was either that, or it was like, uh, they were complaining about not getting paid. And I said something along the lines of like, well, yeah, it's kind of going around right now, but we're going to, yeah, we're going to, we're going to, well, no, this wasn't even at the end. We're going to, yeah, we're going to, we're going to, well, no, this wasn't even at the end. This was just NCIX having cash flow problems and stretching their terms with vendors because basically management either through ignorance or malice, I can't tell anymore, had decided selfishly that their own cash flow issues were the only priority and anyone else's cash flow issues were not a priority. So constantly when I would go and I would complain to upper management or accounting that my vendors need to be paid, hey, we already turned through all the inventory. What are we waiting for? We have the money to pay for it from customers now in our bank account,

theoretically, assuming you're not pissing it away on something, we need to pay the bill. And they would always say, you need to ask for more time. You need to ask for understanding so we can have the cashflow to maintain our business. I'm like, well, what about their cashflow? Like, I don't understand this. This doesn't make any sense. We've got, did we bring in the product and sell it and then now we can pay for it or not? Um, so basically I disclosed that we were stretching our terms and that we were not paying vendors on time and Taryn called me into his office and was like did I just hear what I thought I heard you can't you can't tell people that like do you have any idea how bad that looks and like from my point of view I was like yes sir yes sir but from my point of view I was like well if it

looks bad then maybe we should probably pay our vendors on time. But that's not something I can control. It's not something he can control. So it was an important lesson in just sort of etiquette, you know, if you're good and stretching terms is absolutely a thing in many industries and many vendors. But it's not something from, from, for personally that I agree with. We don't stretch our terms here. Uh, we've, I don't think to my knowledge

in over nine years of operation ever been laid on a paycheck. For example, I don't, I don't believe in that. Everyone else has cashflow issues too. Um, but when I'm not in control of that, which I wasn't, I have to tow the company line. So, um, that was, that was the story there. As for whether we have enough WAN pants in stock, we certainly did before we started. Um, I have no idea what kind of situation we're looking at now. It's probably dire. We definitely moved a few.

Yep, just a little bit. Just a little bit. You know what? We'll be, I think we'll, we a few yep just a little bit just a little bit you know what we'll be i think we'll we'll be okay for a little bit the problem is just that our restock is pretty far away so that's the that's the main issue we're gonna have a restock of hoodies before we have a restock of pants so if you were holding out to buy the hoodie and the pants together, I can't guarantee that their in-stockness will overlap. Yeah. Joshua W., I already talked about kid-sized shirts. We can't do it until we revise our insurance and until we get our own branded shirt shirt blanks out into the field make sure that

they're really going to hold up to the real world and then we start working on the the chonky boy fit the lanky boy fit the women's fit maybe we do kids fits the future of the ltt brand is clothing not merch so yeah pretty much you name. We intend to address it at some point, but we are, we're cashflow constrained, right? Like that's something I'll talk about honestly with you guys, whether the optics are good or not. We're at the point now where Creator Warehouse could probably use an outside investor. I think I just, I don't want to do it because I just don't like people telling me what to do. But I, I think that if we were being honest, you know, they've got a new space they're moving into, they're going to have to furnish it. They're going to have to hire a bunch

of people. If we wanted it to grow the absolute fastest it possibly could, we could use outside investment, but we've also really enjoyed doing things the way that we want to do them. I think you're going to have a really hard time continuing to do that with outside investment because the LTT stores ran in a somewhat unique way. If it takes a year and a half to make a pair of socks, then damn it, it takes a year and a half. And I think not a lot of many people are going to be super cool with that, that aren't the audience. Yeah. I mean i mean honestly that's something that theoretically we could do but the problem is that as soon as we have a bunch of

international investors i didn't mean that but yeah as soon as we have a bunch of international investment it is a minefield legally and accounting wise it's just it's just awful and i don't feel like dealing with it so so that's where we're at on that we're not going to go public anytime soon no no no no um jackson do you have any other prints of the desk pad on the horizon uh there's going to be a stealth one and i think there's something else with like kind of like cool circuits or something like that it's kind of inspired by the circuit wall in the lounge also do you see opportunities for non-phd it enthusiasts at lmg in the near to mid-term future graduating graduating my bachelor's soon and looking for work. Any job search advice?

IT enthusiasts. I mean, yeah, it's tough, right? Like you just got to keep an eye on the jobs page. We're almost always hiring these days. So I don't know what to tell you other than keep an eye out. Stringplays says, any new beanie designs coming? I'd love to see some brighter color, really brighter colors. Okay. And maybe multicolored designs. I don't think we have anything planned for multicolor, but I'm sure Sarah would love to do another round of

finding fun colors or coming up with like some cool like patches and stuff to put on them. Anything's possible, but there's nothing imminent. Blake, heck of a job to your team pumping out videos this week also shout out to my buddy travis watching you'll be sleeping on this pillow oh that's so nice you got a cpu pillow for travis wow i know there wasn't a question but i thought that one was like yeah give a shout out to the team it's positive wholesome good lance the u.s copyright office is looking at changing regulations about automatic content ID systems. They're taking public comments for a month. This is everyone's chance to make their voices heard about content ID abuse.

Hey, what a great message. Thanks, Lance. Enjoy your mystery water bottle and your black beanie. And thank you very much for bringing that to everyone's attention. It's going to be really interesting if three quarters of Twitch creators can't just watch YouTube all day anymore. Yeah. I'm not even necessarily like calling anyone out but that's like a huge thing an automatic content id could really bring that down in a in a crazy way that would actually be a massive change for i guess not just twitch creators but like live streamers in

general that's a huge portion of what live streamers have been doing wow that would that would totally change the space if if automatic content ID came to more platforms and how it was more regulated and all that kind of stuff. Okay. It's going to be on a commercial flight, VladdyDaddy88. We don't have our own plane. Andre J says, how do I wash the desk pad? I may or may not have spilled some Red Bull on it. So this is not official.

This is just what I've tried and it works, but you just machine wash cold, lay it flat to dry, and it looks like the day you got it pretty much from my experience. Your mileage may vary. Your detergent or your washer settings might completely destroy it. I don't know.

So failing that, what you can also do, and I think this is more official, is you can take something like a scrubby cloth cloth like a microfiber cloth or something like that uh get it kind of saturated in liquid and detergent you can just kind of scrub it just make sure that you don't only scrub in one spot because it's a black pad so you'll end up with like one faded spot so you need to make sure you kind of feather it out and scrub all around and then i would give it a rinse and then let it uh let it just lay flat to dry and you should be good to go mark c i'd love to see a highlight video of lmg employees personal

twitch channel so what i was thinking with this yeah is is that you just want more personal promotion no on lmg official we've talked about this luke you're putting me under pressure live you're putting me under pressure i meant to read this one before you did because I was going to kind of co-op his merch message and say if you want to see more stuff about LMG employees' personal stuff, a very interesting way to do that

is to subscribe to Floatplane and check out the Meet the Team videos. There's actually quite a few at this point. I'm going to work with the Linus Media Group team to get some of um i'm gonna work with the the minus media group team to get some of the old exclusives tagged with the exclusive tags so it can be more easy to find some of the old there's a ton of exclusive content built up there there is like there's actually years worth um so there's a there's a lot of meet the teams too and there's it's actually

pretty interesting to see people in a casual setting just talking about themselves instead of talking about tech stuff so if you want to kind of meet the team with a variety of the team members maybe check out floatplane lucky falcor on floatplane says hey did you guys hear sonos won the patent case against google and google speakers are getting nerfed as a result instead of google paying royalties to sonos i did i think it's time for me to just switch from youtube music to spotify because it drives me crazy that google play, I used to be able to just natively cast to my Sonos speakers. But ever since those two got in a tiff, you haven't been able to do it anymore. And that's part of the transition to YouTube music is my understanding. And it just

sucks because the Sonos music app sucks because nobody should ever use it. You should just use your native music service app and then you should just cast to your Sonos. So I think that might be the thing that just breaks me and pushes me to Spotify. Apparently they have good migration tools. Jake's been on me to switch to Spotify for freaking ages. YouTube music is trash. Yeah, but I have YouTube premium. That's why I have it as well.

And I have a family plan. So I just like have all the YouTube premium and all the YouTube music. You get Shopify family plan. I don't don't yeah but that's not youtube premium so now i have now i have to also have premium am i wrong i might be sucks youtube premium just automatically include youtube music i believe so oh i could be wrong it might be a small adder if it was cheaper then that helps cover a bit of at least It's at least cheap. Foster W. As a sales rep at Leon's, it's very difficult for me to explain to customers the difference between Hertz and the manufacturer-listed motion rate.

What's the easiest way to explain the difference? I've got it for you because this is how I used to explain it to customers. The Hertz, right, is the input frame rate, okay? Or frequency or whatever. Let's, let's, sorry? No, thanks. I was talking to Jake. Oh, let's use, let's use frame rate, okay? So the hertz is your input frame rate. Then whatever your clear motion or clear smoothing, motion smoothing, or whatever that is, that's the output frame rate. So the way that you can explain it is that any difference between this and this is fake. It's guesswork. It's filling in the blanks.

So that's why this is critical and this is garbage because anytime you're guessing, there's always gonna be some incorrect guesses. And I remember it just being the stupidest thing ever. NCIX had this Samsung showcase store at one point and one of the demos that samsung sent over to to show off one of their you know tops was in metrotown uh it was in aberdeen center one of their top tier tvs was i think it was like bbc planet earth where all the birds are flying at the same time and i don't know whether it was samsung fault or NCIX's fault,

but we had it running with the stupid motion smoothing. So it looked like an absolute cluster. It looked like absolutely nothing as all these birds are going across. Because the wings, right? They're constantly changing direction. And when you've got like a, you know, I guess that would be what? A 30 FPS or 24 FPS content input. And then you're trying to upscale it to, you know, at that time it would have been like 240 or whatever.

I mean, it's a gong show, right? It's not going to look like anything. So stupid. Hate it. All right. Glad to hear it, Adam L. Love it. All right. Glad to hear it, Adam L. Love Anno 1800 too. I got the incoming.

You got them? All right. So hopefully that clears things up for you. A Drekaw one. News. McDonald's Japan is only serving small sized fries due to an issue with their Canadian supplier in the Vancouver ports. Yeah, that sounds familiar. Thought it was fun enough to share.

Hey, thanks for that. Red Robin locally is only providing ketchup in pre-portioned little things because apparently there's a ketchup shortage in Vancouver now as well. Just, you know, COVID era things, right? So one of the incoming messages that I sent through said that they work at a Chick-fil-A

and they rotate through eight iPads for taking orders or something and they're wanting a charging solution. Just get one of those like file folder slot things that you can place them on and just plug them in. There's not really much else to say other than that. Ian D says, you've mentioned software videos don't perform well.

Would you consider making compilation videos of cool slash niche software for PC users? It's something we've touched on before. In fact, we had a whole series that we had planned around it called lsd luke's software discoveries um it didn't perform very well i don't think luke did a great job of it i think one of them was okay yeah there was only like two of them yeah one of the problems is there honestly isn't that much stuff well i mean we did a full episode on nine night for ncix tech tips that was way back in the house a long time ago nine night still super Honestly, isn't that much stuff? Well, I mean, we did a full episode on Nineite for NCIX Tech Tips. That was a long time ago.

Long time ago. Nineite's still super cool, by the way. Yeah, it's something that we could do. In the meantime, we can at least highlight the one that you mentioned here. Apparently, it's a good way to force old games into windowed full screen called Game Companion. That sounds kind of neat.

It is, but it's not enough for one video and it's very niche. Yeah. It's tough. And ultimately, unless we started doing more Linux stuff, I don't think there's enough of that type of content for Windows. I think if you jumped on Linux, yeah, there almost certainly would be. Andrew C., have either of you done any more Linux things since the Linux challenge?

Nope. I've been playing Halo Infinite. Mint released a new version. I'm interested in trying it, but I can't like... This is the same problem I ran into last time. I really, really wanted to run it

on my work computer a bunch of years ago and it just wasn't worth it. I really, really wanted to run it on my work computer a bunch of years ago, and it just wasn't worth it. Now, I really wanted to run it on my work laptop, and it was totally worth it. I actually significantly enjoyed the experience, and I believe I was faster and more productive on Linux than I was on Windows because the startup time was really fast, and it just didn't get in my way.

It was quick. Like, I don't know. I was happy, and then it stopped displaying to an my way it was it was quick like i don't know i was happy and then it stopped displaying to an external monitor and i was just like okay now i need to waste a bunch of time installing windows again because windows takes a billion years to install compared to kind of does i don't get it it's only like four point however many gigabytes how long could it possibly take to extract and put all the files linux actually takes like a few minutes like i just and there's like almost no config you need to do i shouldn't say generally but like mint and ubuntu are super super fast to install it very very easy and then windows is like oh my god i have to click 10 million things saying no i don't actually want you to take every single

piece of information about my entire soul for free um and then you finally get into the install and it has to update 10 billion things as well so frustrating and i don't even want to use it and it's worse but at least it displays to a second monitor yep i don't know what to tell you so i don't know i i like want to try the new version of mint but if that happens again then i just wasted a bunch of time silver home says still no qd oled talk so ah that video did you watch the video we did on qd oled uh no okay it's super cool so samsung is trying to solve the problems of lcd and oled by basically combining some of the best technology of both.

They've got an OLED backlight, which basically means per pixel light control. And then they're using a quantum dot layer to handle the transformation from the wavelength of light that the backlight evenly distributes to whatever wavelength they need. So it's going to be your red, green, blue, etc. It's a little bit more complicated than that. You got to watch the full video for the actual explanation because there's some pastor or something. Anyway, the point is it's OLED plus quantum dot and it's super cool. A fair number of people criticized the videos for being extremely shilly. And the answer to how that happened is actually that i did not know it was sponsored so james was the one who actually went down to samsung's demo everything i heard about it and

i trust james's i trust james's takes on displays implicitly he he knows his biz um and he brought down all the tools he needed. Samsung let him play with them, which was amazing. With what limited time he had, he was able to actually like test them, which is something that doesn't normally happen at a CES showcase. Like it was very open considering that it was Samsung. I think part of it is that it was Samsung display, not Samsung electronics. So super cool opportunity that we would have been crazy not to take. So James is the one who went down there. He came up, he scripted the video.

I went through it with him and I was like, how good is it? And he's like, it's great. And I go, okay, well, this seems kind of tepid. Like, is it good or is it great? He's like, it's great. And I go, okay, so let's go through. We's go through crank it up and i cranked it up a notch as i was standing on the set i found out hey this video this is a fully sponsored video and i went oh that's why it

was tepid that's why well no that's not why i i don't know why james made the decision because he would have had every opportunity to tell me in script review that right it was sponsored that's why he did it but i mean i never asked right he might have assumed he must have assumed that i knew it was sponsored because someone told me at some point i'm just a scatterbrain i've got a lot going on and i i didn't remember i i just didn't remember and so i realize on set i find out on set hey this is sponsored i go oh shoot okay so a couple of problems here number one is the way that i went through and edited that script for what is a forward-looking piece uh on a technology that is not released to the market yet for a brand partner is not the way that I would normally frame something like that. I would normally frame it as more, we're going to

let you guys be the judge of this ultimately, but here's what Samsung says about it. So I allowed a lot more of our editorial impressions, which were very positive, to make their way into the finished video. That was concern number one. Concern number two was that there was no sponsorship disclosure in the script. So on set, I ad-libbed in the sponsorship disclosure

that needs to be in the first 30 seconds or whatever. And I was just like, well, we're behind on production right now. We need this out in time for it to go up at embargo. I don't have time to sit down and completely retool this script and make it less enthusiastic. And the reality of it is people are going to see this tech. They're going to know we were right about it anyway. So how much damage is this going to do in the short term? Yeah, I think it was a hit in the longterm. I think we come out fine because when people look at this two years or three years down the road, they're going to be like LTT was right, which, which is,

which is great, but it just, it just sucks that we ended up with a lot of really negative comments on that video criticizing us for uh sort of shilling it when the reality of it is what actually happened was we ended up being way more positive than we normally would have been on a sponsored video because i didn't realize it was sponsored we actually go out of our way sometimes with sponsors to make sure that we don't, we don't inject that personal enthusiasm into it because we know that that muddies the waters. Um, so that's what happened. And, um, you know, that's the kind of thing that I guess will end up in in my tell-all uh yeah uh thomas w oh i've got some things to address um two two comments i'm not surprised to uh you know comments about linux stuff uh powder linux said couldn't luke get anthony to fix his second monitor issues now we're wasting two people's

time the whole am i paying for this time exactly yeah is that a thing i'm paying for yeah but come on guys the the whole problem is that it's a it's a low-end work environment all i need is some browsers and two dedicated chat applications that's it i need slack i need teams and i need usually two to three browsers because I might need to test some things in some browsers, whatever. I just need it to work consistently. That is my whole benchmark. I was excited about using Linux because it was a little bit faster. I found it got in my way a little bit less so I could work slightly, very marginally faster. The fact that it stopped displaying to a second monitor was a big problem.

And then Crobat on Twitch said, I'm not using Mint, but I am on Fedora watching Wancho on my laptop connected to a second monitor, Luke. I know. It's not that you can't do it. I mean, I had my Manjaro rig on a second monitor whenever I needed to like diagnose a problem.

And I had it on a second monitor for like a month. And I seriously doubt it affected almost anyone else, if anyone else at all. It's very likely related to my literally physically falling apart old Razer laptop. It's like, it doesn't matter. Can you complain about that gift some more? It's still working.

It's really sexy when you do that. It's still working. I don't care i'm just it's still working it still plays games i went to a land with it uh at my parents house with my brother i'm kidding it's fine i know they all fell apart i understand we literally made a video about how they all fell apart i'm just saying it's probably more related to that than than like linux or whatever i wasn't trying to take shots at Linux, but it doesn't matter. Yeah. I need it to work. You don't want to take shots at Linux when you can take shots at Linus and his gift he gave you.

But it's just like, and then there was another comment that was like, hey, Linus, you constantly get asked to make more Unraid content, but you say there isn't enough interest,'re constantly asking you so there has to be enough interest and it's like no that's not how it works yeah no that's not how it works just because there's like a few loud people in the audience doesn't mean there's actually hundreds of thousands or at least a million people want to click on this content if we make a video that doesn't get a million views it's like a catastrophe to put it in perspective like what kind of scale we're hoping to operate on these days. And we could potentially do a Linux channel that has lower expectations at some point, but we haven't done that yet.

Thomas W asks, what's the lowest temperature that the water bottle can handle? Could you put LN2 in it? I don't know. But you know who does know is Steve from Gamers Nexus. So you could ask him.

He told me he intended, he asked for some. so you could ask him um he told me he intended he asked for some so we sent him some he told me he intended to use them for l and two pouring for extreme overclocking i was like let me know how it goes and i don't think i ever heard back from him so okay yeah feel free to um check check in with him about that kyra says hey luke what's your end game vision for floatplane i super super love float plane, but things like caption availability make it hard for my auditory processing issues. So unfortunately, I usually use YouTube despite being subscribed. We do want to have to support auto caption stuff. Is there like an open open?

There's a service we can subscribe to, I believe. The last time I looked into it, it looked like it was a paid service. It was attainably priced. The problem was it does. If I remember correctly, it's been a while. The problem was that it didn't work with our current player. We're still waiting for that player update. I know I've been saying this for a while now.

We had our main developer in general, also the main developer on the player, kind of was down and out with COVID for like a month. And he's only been back for like a week. Um, he's done an amazing amount of stuff since he's back. Cause he's awesome, but he gets pulled in like a billion different directions and he's the one making the player. So it'll come when it comes, hopefully soon. It's very close to being ready, but we want it to be really, really ready. Um, it will not not automatically support that but theoretically it would be able to support that and that is something that we want to do because you're definitely not the only person um who who needs slash wants that feature and we would

like to support people with those types of needs slash wants uh myth x plays says miss the wan hoodie happy to be here for the wan pants linus i know you play badminton but what's your workout routine like is there a sweet high-tech gym coming at the new house no i actually do not do any pure working out the only exercise like explicit exercise that i do is playing badminton more formally training badminton and um beat saber that's actually it in general though and this is one of those things that it's it's ridiculous how how simple it is and yet how important it is i take steps two at a time i i walk fast everywhere i go i park farther away um take the difficult route there's there's a lot of little things that you can do that contribute to just you know i'm not jacked obviously like i'm not i'm not huge or anything but there's a lot of little things that you can do to do to help maintain what's what's shaken

um you know like i i never miss a step target i I'm always walking. If I could, I am someone, right, in the office. And knowing that it usually takes people a while to see it. It's actually faster in most cases to get off your butt, walk over to their desk and talk to them. So that's what I do. I get up and I go talk to people. And often it's nice to have a brain break. It's good for the mind to just get your body moving once in a while genuinely yeah um so there's just a thousand little things like that um you know one

of the things that i will go out of my way to do even if i don't feel like it is if my kids ask me to play a really active game like they like this game where i will i will go and catch them i will chase them like run after them scoop them up and then carry them like flailing around and throw them onto a bed or a couch, okay? And so they'll go and they'll hide or they'll run. They'll try and get past me. I was playing it at the in-laws house the other night with them.

Freaking exhausting. Cause like my oldest is nine, okay? And he loves it too. They all love it. So I'll grab them and I'll like huck them onto the bed and I'll tickle them and then I'll run and I'll like go get another one and like throw them over my shoulder

and go run somewhere else and like huck them onto the bed and I'll like tickle them and one of them will come up behind me and like punch me in the butt and I'll turn around and grab them and I'll like put them over my head and like carry them off somewhere

and throw them. Obviously, you gotta be like careful. Yeah. They're children. But I'll like put them over my head and like carry them off somewhere and throw them. Obviously you got to be like careful. Yeah. They're children. But I do like to play rough with my kids. So that's something that's, you know, it's just one of the little things that when you have an opportunity, take it and it makes a big difference. Yeah.

And I go hard at badminton to be very clear badminton if you are and i don't want to generalize but if you are white and not from denmark badminton is probably not what you think it is i'm just i'm just saying i play like for realsies. So it's hard. It's very intense. People don't respect badminton enough. Men's singles badminton, like the average professional match, they actually travel a greater distance in less time

compared to professional tennis matches. Like it's insane. Burn to Otis. With Samsung now making OLED TVs,s will lg oleds get cheaper i suspect it'll put pressure on lg um and will lg finally make an oled gaming monitor panel well lg would need an appropriate technology to do it that's the issue right now i think one of the reasons they only have an oled creator monitor is that they can sell it at the kinds of margins that will allow them to absorb any returned panels due to burn-in if it becomes a problem out in the field. So

I don't think it's coming anytime soon, but don't quote me on that. I mean, they could surprise me. Don't they have a 32, don't they have a 42-inch TV have a 42 inch tv coming though i mean that's getting dangerously close to monitor size at this point yeah i mean i'm already using a 48 inch as a monitor and i'm i'm kind of loving it actually i don't know how i could go back there's one for me from jacob w says hey luke how have you been now that you've been on the floatplane team for a while how does it feel not working for ltd anymore what was the transition between the two like blah blah it's it's cool i i've worked a lot of jobs in my life sometimes i miss making videos but sometimes i also miss working in the back of geek squad and fixing computers i like it's you're there's going to be positives and negatives about everything there was a moment that

i i kind of there's there's been times in my life where I've tried to sit and absorb and accept the fact that I'm currently in the good old days I try to like recognize that when I'm in it so that I can more deeply enjoy things and honestly this week when when the garbage time stream went live dank pods when he went live and he started playing drums on stream and the stream was running beautifully and the whole live chat was freaking out about how good the audio quality was and i was i had just previously been sitting in a voice chat with all the people that contributed and made this thing happen i was watching it happen in front of my eyes and he's talking about how great the stream's running everything's just going properly

and i'm just sitting there like this is pretty bleep button cool like the fact that we made this is just kind of incredible like it's it's this is this is a wild achievement i think everyone on the team should be incredibly proud and i'm incredibly proud of them um and this is not something that i could have done in in any other arena. I mean, you can count on your hands and toes, uh, on your fingers and toes, probably like the companies in the world that have their own top to bottom, um, VOD delivery systems, right? Yeah.

Like it's, it's, and a lot of the information for that is, is not the most public and stuff. Like it's, it's genuinely incredible what the team has done. And and every once in a while i just have to sit back and be like wow like this is crazy like obviously there's things that full thing doesn't do perfectly but there's enough that it does really well that i just i think it's super cool and i also appreciate that i'm allowed to still do stuff like this i've been doing wancho the entire time. It's not like I've been completely gone. I just don't make mainline videos anymore. But it was nice to have you back for the Linux series. It was fun.

It's fun working together on the videos again. I completely agree. And I've talked to Riley. I'm probably going to be doing a tech link at some point. So that's cool. But I'm not, by no means, am I leaving Flowplane. So don't get it twisted. I might just show up every once in

a blue moon um but yeah i don't know i love my job it's really cool so yeah i don't actually force him to say that just to be very clear no and i don't think he'd be afraid to say it no i typed a comment in the in the garbage time stream i typed a comment being like this is the fact that i like that part of my job is that I need to sit here and make sure the stream goes well is so freaking cool. Because I'm like, this is awesome. I don't know. It was great.

Jake asks, Anno after party. I'm tired. I'm out tonight, but I'm definitely down. I'm down to play some Anno. Yeah, we should. Saxon asks, any chance for a rough date, pre-save link or subscribe to notify

for the new short circuit hoodie, even if it's in like 2024? We have no such feature at this time, but we've kind of, we've thought about it. It could be an interesting idea to add like a page of like upcoming products that you can subscribe to notifications for or something.

It's also fun to just drop them during WAN show. And we have enough of that one coming that as long as you're kind of paying attention to the channel at least once a week, I think you'll get one. Then again, the response to that thing has been absolute fire. So there's no guarantee. We got to start firing through these. Okay. Because I'm like out of time. Okay.

Kenneth, love the new house content. Curious if you plan to review any new security products. No. And for the reasons that you outlined, it's very difficult to review a security product

without revealing far more about your own security situation than you are comfortable with. Zach M, I already have and love the desk pad and water bottle. Thanks for the amazing products. I know the port's been a pain.

Any idea when my hoodie, oh, okay, no, we already addressed that. Yeah, it's coming. Jake in Floatplane Chat says, can we give a shout out to the Linux 1? I think it hasn't crashed once. This is a void. Hashtag F Windows.

Yeah, infrastructure developments. Heck yeah, let's go. Pretty much. Michael O, is there any idea when we might start seeing research, testing and content coming out of the labs? Will it be in 2022 or is that wishful thinking? If it's not in 2022, I'll be disappointed. Anonymous, any plans to tackle the chaos that is

shopping for an AV receiver that actually supports everything that HDMI 2.1 is supposed to offer on multiple inputs? That would be a project for the lab. That's not a project for our LTT writing team, so expect that to take some time bill long time viewer serious question if we have big suggestions for the lab and float plane where is the suggestion box we do have a publicly facing email address on the main channel i'd say that's not a bad place to send real valid meaningful feedback um but don't expect a reply the the folks who man that are not um they're not gonna reply to you uh evan loving the merch can we get subtitles on the product photo showing what size the model is wearing we are working on it that is a thing that we will do it's just a matter of them getting

on it um luke o says haven't asked this in a couple years when can i buy your book linus and can i get an autographed copy of this autobiography? I don't think I have a good enough memory to write an autobiography. I think if I ended up writing a book, it would basically just be me sitting down and typing and rambling until I run out of things to ramble about and then binding it and selling it. That was a hell of a ride, Linus Sebastian. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, pretty much.

Alec asks, hey, what's the time frame on the backpack? Three months? A year? Should I stop checking for it every few days? Stop checking for it every few days. You'll know because it'll be on WAN. We still have another sample coming, I think, next week. If this one is perfect,

then it goes into production and it will be months away. Okay. If it's not perfect, Chinese New Year's happening, could be another two months before we even get another sample. So Joseph G says, I'm autistic and have sensory issues and the short circuit long sleeve t-shirt is out of stock. Are there any more long sleeves in the pipeline or a restock for the short circuit? Okay. There more long sleeves in the pipeline or a restock for the short circuit okay there are long sleeves in the pipeline but they're going to be a while they're going to be based on the same fabric as our t-shirts or maybe a slightly heavier weight and those are still going through that process where we're deploying them making sure they're all good and then we're going to ramp up big time uh anonymous are the swackets getting a restock or were there a limited time item they

are getting a restock this time the first swacket only got a single stocking because we had issues with uh qc on that with that supplier and we couldn't find another supplier to build it blah blah blah blah long story but this one is coming back um how about dark aqua pants yeah um that sounds like a great idea. You know, hit up Nick if you have merch suggestions. Don't bother him on the weekend though. We can skip this one. I already talked about it.

Okay, Brittany. Hope you guys are having a great night. Been waiting for the pants to drop. I get it. I'm so excited to finally get them. Also, I don't know if you'll see or read this, but if you do, how do you guys feel about Razor Snecky merch? Have you gotten any of it for yourselves? I didn't know what they were talking about um well i'm gonna google it razor razor

sneaky sneaky snack what is this it's a snake i mean it's cute it's pretty cute um giving cuddles, aiding conservation. Chief gaming mascot. Meet Snacky Snack. I mean, it's not the weirdest thing Razor's ever done. No, I haven't gotten my hands on any of that stuff myself. Adam C. says, can't wait to see more collared shirts. Maybe long sleeves too why don't

you guys branch out into formal wear and make a tie maybe gpu oh i hate you so much luke maybe gpu themed you could call it the 3090 tie it's actually not that stupid that's the one where i was i i reacted and you were like what and i was like was like, you'll see it later. That was it, by the way. The 30-90 tie. Oh, man. Jaden in full-blown chat, I actually kind of want one. Pretty good. So that gets a little bit complicated because that would absolutely be trademarked.

We'd have to find a way around it. What if you beat them to the punch in 40 90 tie that's hilarious and then we just mock up like kind of uh what it might look like man oh my goodness okay all right uh you got my attention You got my attention. You got my attention. That's a legit good idea. Ryan got the shirt to commemorate my first computer repair at work. I now run IT for my office. Quite the journey. Looking to upgrade our workstations next. Would you go Intel 11th Gen or would you go 12th Gen for future proofing?

So 11th Gen would be tried and true. 12th Gen would be... Man, 12th Gen performs so much better. Man, I'd be real tempted to go 12th Gen for future proofing. So 11th gen would be tried and true. 12th gen would be, man, 12th gen performs so much better. Man, I'd be real tempted to go 12th gen right now to be perfectly honest with you. It's just, it's just better. Daniel H asks, there's a Sony FW900 CRT,

you've probably heard of it before, that does high res, high refresh rate gaming. Sure does. I'd be interested in doing a blind AB testing against modern high refresh rate monitors. does be interested in doing a blind ab testing against modern high refresh rate monitors i'll bounty the fw 900 if someone has one that i we could reasonably get to vancouver canada i i am down i would love to have one of those in our arsenal so man what are what are they worth though tell you what why don't you hit me up with your offers same thing we've got the public facing email.

It ain't that hard to find on the YouTube channel. If you have an FW900, I'm into it. Hey Linus, opposite side of the question. How does it feel not having Luke working in LTT videos anymore? Has having your own personal VOD dev on staff been more helpful than losing a host? Love what you do. Honestly, what Floatplane does now is incredibly valuable.

So between the floatplane.com platform, I mean, you guys saw in the how does LMG make money video that we did a while back. It is a significant portion of our annual revenue. And then now they're doing stuff like merch messages, which quite frankly, if it goes the way that I'm expecting it to this year, I would expect the merch message revenue to outstrip the floatplane subscription revenue for 2022.

There's a lot to unpack there. There is, because the floatplane revenue is cash. And the merch messages revenue is based on creator warehouse work and has costs. Like looking at the merch messages income on a week where there is a product launch versus a week that there isn't a product launch is like completely night and day and stuff. But building tools like that, building tools that are going to help us build out the lab,

make the content better, I think is where the floatplane team is really going to be able to shine over the next year. And the inventory system. And yeah, we have like a fully customized inventory system now instead of the garbage software that And the inventory system. And yeah, we have like a fully customized inventory system now

instead of the garbage software that we were using before. That's all on the floatplane team. So I think it's more valuable having an in-house dev team than it is and having someone in charge of it who understands what we do. Because I could try to hire someone

for Luke's position, but realistically, they would not understand what we do. And you guys as viewers who have followed us for many years you might take it for granted but it's not just straightforward it's not just you walk into this job and immediately you're like oh yeah this is this is where the revenue comes from and this is who the customers are like it's not that simple because what we do is creative it's not just plugging in inputs and getting outputs so um yeah it's it's i i wouldn't have anyone else doing it quite frankly thanks man a prime said you want to license that out we've thought about it we want there's there's still work to be done to finish custom tailoring like

there's there's a thing we're doing for product procurement, where instead of it going through this like weird Google sheet and then being added to an email and all this weird stuff, we're going to track the entire procurement process through the inventory system. Oh, that's cool. So there's always the item there and a notification can be sent out once that item actually shows up in office to one of the writers and stuff. So there's still like features and things that we want to bring to the table um once we're done the

core development and you guys are like yeah we just kind of like it now then we might look into potentially licensing out but it's going to be so tailored to us that it's like unless you're a youtube outfit that has a massive inventory which there's probably very few of you but there are some gamers nexus yeah there's going to be license it to steve yeah this could be like hey steve a small my digits people sup but yeah i don't know um assay yes we're working on daw benchmarks it's taking a long time mechanical v i am shorter than all the options for the wands i am just over five feet would you recommend this for a short woman or should i hold off the options for the wands I'm just over five feet would you recommend this for a short woman or should I hold off hold off for the women's cuts because they are going to be

like more more fitted for narrower legs in addition to being better for height Yvonne tried one of the men's fit ones and she was just like this is a little too big for me She is extremely skinny though So your mileage may vary but I would say that there's a solid chance that you're gonna be better off waiting for the women's version Matthew H. I have the GPU and controller foil shirts. When are we getting new foil shirts? No time soon Yeah, we haven't we've kind of moved on to new metas at this point. Solar Fervor says, just saw MKBHD's What's in My Bag. Your team has a lot of camera enthusiasts. Would you guys ever consider making a camera focused backpack? No, that is not in the plan

at all. It's something that we could potentially tackle, but it's also something that we would just love to see people who live and breathe it every day tackle, but it's also something that we would just love to see people who live and breathe it every day tackle. Like that's what makes this thing so great is that it is tech enthusiast focused. There's thought given to where does my mouse go? Most people don't carry a mouse. I do.

I need somewhere to put my GD mouse, okay? And so we want to really just stick to products where we can differentiate based on that we do use them every day and that we have pain points that we can really meaningfully address uh turf asks linus are you liking the samsung watch or going back to the apple watch need a lengthy video or more details um frankly i just use it as a watch. I use it to tell the time. The notification delivery on my phone for calendar events is so inconsistent and unreliable that I just, I can't really use it for that. And reminders on Android are so fundamentally broken.

If anyone who works on Android ever wanted to talk to me about how atrocious reminders are, I'd be happy to point them in the right direction about how to fix them. When I say remind me of something something i don't mean be like hey you might want to know this i mean remind me i need to do it and there's no way to change your reminder notification to be a continuous alarm how is that even possible it is 2022 yeah how is it even possible that you can't set a persistent a persistent reminder it's mind-blowing anyway that's a whole that's a whole thing so um as a time piece to tell the time i think it works great it doesn't get stinky so the band is good in that

sense it's good high quality wasn't really all my thoughts. Christopher M. LTT shills for the win. Need more hoodies and swackets for the full set. Epic pillow win. I think it's in the harbor. Yes. Will there be a non-hoodie sweater in development that one could wear to work? Stealth sweater with a zipper front.

Stay awesome, LTT. We do have a new stealth coming. It is a hoodie. Oh, interesting. Yeah. No, I don't think. Man, I just love hoodies. Me too.'re kind of definitely into hoodies a non-hoody sweater i mean uh you know what i think we should do something like that that is a thing seems like a good idea a non-hooded sweater

um well with a zipper right is what you're saying yeah you guys have a non-hooded sweater yeah yeah yeah it's kind of it's really different though that's like a cozy warm kind of sweater yeah um non-hooded sweater with zipper i'm gonna just send that to nick with a maybe i mean once we've done the patterns and got the material sourced it's just a matter it's a relatively simple thing that's one of the reasons that all of this has taken so long because everything we've done has been from freaking scratch. Once we've got good suppliers and like good material sourcing, it's going to get simpler. I can keep saying that and then it just keeps staying complicated. I would like to make a store suggestion. I work in retail and the policy is we cannot wear any sweaters with a hood or logos.

Can you please consider making a sweater with a zipper but no hood wait it's the same damn suggestion but from a different person that's hilarious okay yeah we're still working on it um justin says dank is still dank and please visit ltt um and archive i didn't click that one i't. I don't know where that one came from. Okay. Jared asks, do you plan on adding microscopy? Microscopy? I don't know. Equipment to the lab. If yes, do you plan to hire a microscopist? Microscopist?

To run it. Anything's possible. Right now, we are digging through literally hundreds of like masters and PhD grade applicants. It's kind of incredible. And we're going to figure out what experts we have and we're going to build out test suites and equipment around them.

We're kind of going very backwards. But that's the reality of it when you go in with no real solid plan and you just want to like make better videos. So we're going to take what we can get. Ben D says, just built my first computer this week. Currently watching on it. Thanks for all the educational content. like make better videos yeah so yeah um we're gonna we're gonna take what we can get ben d says just built my first computer this week currently watching on it thanks for all the educational content when is your beat saver competition with conrad coming anytime conrad anytime i think i

think you gotta put a cap on it fine this month it's been at least a new year's resolution come at me bro yeah what do you think of that uh jacob w question for linus and luke you guys been doing this a long time looking back what's your favorite and worst memories of working together well we did the worst uh a couple weeks ago i think favorite man i mean there's it's been a wild ride it man. It's been a long... We've done some crazy stuff. I don't know. Yeah, what have we not done? I mean, staying up late at Computex,

just talking about stuff, being on the top of the mountain, man. We've done a lot of cool stuff lately, but I think a lot of the founding memories are going to be pretty core for a long time. I've brought this one up quite a few times. I know. The server falling asleep at the Denny's. Yeah don't know why but that one just sticks that's

just such a that's a very coveted memory all the late night drives right like i used to just like drive luke everywhere i didn't have a car he had no car way past the bus and i knew he had no money yeah because ncix wasn't paying him any money so what was i gonna do just like leave the office and leave him there like three hours i i think i pretty much saved your life that one time when i lent you that camo jacket or was that you or ed that was that was you right honestly it's probably both of us for some reason he had to take the bus and it was like crazy cold he only had a t-shirt so i like gave him my jacket yeah and then i had no jacket i didn't tell him i didn't tell him that i needed it did i ever tell you that i like needed it okay i i know i borrowed that jacket when very

needed more than once but i'm pretty sure ed did it i lost it somehow i don't know what happened to it yeah i don't have it anymore it's just like crazy ridiculous camo jacket super thick favorite memory sports day yeah jake honestly i was thinking about that recently the second it's like we gotta play some ball hockey sports day i want to we gotta play some ball hockey at the gym absolutely i'm super down yeah source some sticks and i'll just like order them i don don't even care. I have a stick. Yeah, but we need more. We've got to have like hockey, ball hockey. We got to play some ball hockey.

Sure. Yeah. All right. Last merch message. Here it is. Jeffrey A. Is it better to wait and upgrade to something like the LG C2 or should I just find a good deal on a C1 equivalent?

Honestly, I mean, C2 is looking brighter. It's looking exciting, but it's hard to go wrong, man. Any current gen OLED is going to be such a game changer for probably whatever you're running now that you're going to absolutely love it. I got to say, Jake said the Sports Day thing and then he said charity streams. Jake, I have very recently dug out all of the footage of you and me screwing around making

those christmas presents for my family uh i don't know what i'm gonna do with it i've been cutting it together it's not gonna go anywhere i i think i just want the video for myself like genuinely luke technically has a channel yeah i just there's the video of me saving him on the bridge which had zero dislikes until we pointed it on wine show and then it got some dislikes i was sad um but it is so funny i don't like i i'm watching this this really old footage of jake and i just like screwing around in the garage at like one in the morning making like stupid toilet humor jokes and it is so funny that i just watch it and then run out of time and have done almost no editing because i

just find it hilarious i just keep watching and it's so much footage it's actually excessive and it's funny because i have no idea what i'm doing with cameras so anytime jake isn't there the footage is like basically unusable so it's basically just jake and i the whole time like half the time i filmed myself i didn't turn the mic on jake wants to see it yeah of course yeah why not yeah i have all it's so it's actually so funny i don't know uh junkie 81 asks is he allowed to upload it yeah of course one of the best parts is we have this bucket of cement that's dried out. And I have to try to get the cement out of the bucket. But it's like 1 in the morning.

So I'm trying to hammer the cement out of this bucket. And Jake's telling me I'm not going to be able to get it done. And he's like, oh, man, it's so funny. Oh, man. I want to watch this video now. It's actually hilarious. I'll cut it together at some point. It's a lot of footage, so it's going to take me, like, forever.

Some of the early channel super fun stuff was pretty ridiculously fun, too. Oh, man. Even just little dumb stuff. Like, remember that time you chased me and I was, like, legit scared? I had, like, a fight or flight reaction. You jumped over somebody else's fence didn't you something like that just trying to get away from them yeah i remember that there's been a lot of we've done we've done a lot of stuff it's been a good time it's been a long time yeah all right

and it's been a long time on this show i think it's time for us to call it oh my god someone said technically it still has no dislikes that's funny never thought about that thank you for tuning in we will see you guys again next week same bad time same bad channel bye jake said you should just edit into it i legitimately think at this point in time if i finish the edit it's gonna be like well over an hour long oh wow okay yeah because i don't care like i don't know if i'd even release it so it's not for like it's not really for other people i don't care, like, I don't know if I'd even release it. So it's not for, like, it's not really for other people. I don't care if people keep watching. Oh, wait, I got to end the stream.

Bye!