The WAN Show - You Guys are Mad. I Get it. - WAN Show February 3, 2023

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Let's see. Let's see. He retooled the whole thing. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I want to see his face if it doesn't work. Why does this keep...

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Oh, it's automated. Cool. Good job. Let's go ahead and jump right into our first topic. We've got a special guest this week, but he's not joining us just yet. That was a glitch. Don't worry about that. First, I want to talk through a little bit of what's happened over the last couple of weeks. Wait, hold on. He spent a lot of time on this. That wasn't a glitch. You did that. What? No, it was definitely a glitch. You have to be honest. Integrity is important i can tell that's going to be a topic

of the show i can tell from the chat comments that that was obviously a glitch i don't know well that one all right fake news so first order of business i think is for me to kind of run through um you know what happened last week all right i have self-identified three major screw-ups. Screw-up number one was not watching the video ahead of time. I mean, if we're going to respond directly to someone's comments, yeah, I think it's fair enough that we should probably hear what they are. Number two was framing the segment as responding to a critical call-out instead of just framing the segment as further clarifying our React channel instead of just framing the segment as further clarifying our react channel plans i actually think if we had just changed the framing to

hey we want to clarify our react channel plans further uh there's been some concern in the community would have been a lot better uh i think it would have been fine because there was honestly almost nothing in the segment that really disagreed with anything. Problem number three. So first, I'd like to apologize to Dark Viper. No, no, he's not here yet. First, I'd like to apologize to Dark Viper. Another glitch.

Second, I'd like to apologize to the audience. And third, I'd like to apologize to our new wanshow writer who and this is where i'm gonna kick off our segment we've got the one and only dark viper joining us on the show i'd like to apologize to our writer because i think we're about to start on a spicy note here i actually think she did a really good job of summarizing the video and i know that that's not something that you necessarily agree with still need summarizing the video and I know that that's not something that you necessarily agree with. Still need to watch the video anyways. I know. Yeah. But she

did do an excellent job. Oh, if you want me to just... Yeah, jump right in. Let's go. Let's go. I just think the combination of the way that it was phrased, at least the first thing that was said, along with the title, implied that I was

like attacking you. I was making a drama attack video. And as a person who's being characterized as a person who likes to start drama with creators, and that's not something I like to do, actually, I didn't appreciate it. I realized it wasn't the intent for you to categorize it that way. And you perhaps, as you say, would have changed it had you seen the video. But that's the way it felt to me. And i wasn't particularly happy that's totally fair and i think the problem is that we're not even supposed to read the title the title in here is just for to have a title for the topic we don't actually read it live on the show um so so we ended up in a bit of a pickle over the very framing of the segment

because what's been really interesting to me uh in the way that i process videos which i have talked about at length last week um in reading the community's reaction to this entire thing is how mad people think everybody was when as far as far as I can tell, you were never mad, and then I was never mad, and then I don't think anyone was ever mad, because fundamentally, we seem to agree on just about every point with respect to React content, except the actual definition of React content.

At best, I was disappointed, and at least maybe in the moment when writing a response to what was happening maybe i was a bit tiffed but calling me angry or mad was certainly a stretch um and as i say in the video itself towards you uh talking about what you uh said about your channel i was certainly not mad uh i certainly still hold the same uh venomous sort of comments towards reactors in general. But what you're talking about, what you want to create, doesn't seem to be the thing that I normally criticize anyway.

Which is something that I highlight in the video. And I compliment you a few times as well. Yeah, I've watched it. So I've watched it now. Yeah, so that's another thing. It was very interesting seeing how many people were jumping into this,

clearly not having watched the first WAN Show segment, your response, or the follow-up WAN Show segment, because I sat down on my Saturday, once I'd kind of chilled out a little bit over people sort of jumping down my throat about this, and i watched the whole thing and ignoring the lol didn't watch it tone um it was just kind of like yeah here's our plan and you were like yeah this is their plan and unrelated to their plan here are some

problems with react content in general the way that i define it and then i came out and i kind of went yeah these are this is fair but you know as we kind of outlined that's not really our intention and hey it's i'm really glad that we talked about these things and here's some ideas for how youtube could turn this into a less toxic thing for the community overall see you later and so throughout all of this the big problem was A. the framing and B. the fact that we were like yeah we didn't watch it even having watched it I don't actually have a ton more to say

so the main reason that we brought you on the show is just for me to say like sorry dude there's a few things we can talk about but there's not actually much when it happened I was like I was surprised it got mentioned at all I think think if you'd watch the video be like why? Are we talking about this? Why is this a thing that we need to bring on to the show like as I said before like if um if the sub if

The segment was just here's some general Ideas that have been floating around about the reaction that we're about to make and you just talked about it in that context would have Been fine. It's just that it that you framed as a response to me and about it in that context would have been fine. It's just that it that you framed as a response to me and most of what you talked about wasn't what I talked about in the video and it and it was framed as an attack on you It was just mixed messaging. Yeah. Confusion. Lines got crossed. I got what sorry? I said lines got crossed. Oh, I thought you said Linus got crossed I was like no, because the thing is I was never even mad like looking at the summary the first thing it said in my summary was he was generally positive about everything and i was like okay like it didn't actually feel like drama to me in the first place i think we might have i was probably just in

like kind of a so spice mix new writers new writers uh acquaintance you know this is an anonymous person so i'm not going to disclose anything about them. They're still in their probationary period here. After 90 days, we start talking about people's names because otherwise it makes it really awkward if people don't make it through the probationary period. What they said was, watching it,

Linus seems like he needs a nap. There's no doubt last Friday that I probably needed a nap. It was not great one thing that I definitely want to address is that you corrected my understanding of the h3 ruling I had misunderstood why the ruling went that way so I was really glad about that and one of the points that I hadn't come across yet was your point about how live streamers haven't vetted the content so they have no way of knowing uh whether

or not what they ultimately do will be fair use um and i wanted to talk about that a little bit that is one of my things that i wanted to kind of not debate but maybe try to reach a consensus on is how do you define then vetting because this whole situation is actually kind of a really interesting analog for how i would expect our react content to ultimately work so i the reactor would not vet the content in all likelihood because one of the foundational things for me in all of our content is that i like to preserve as much genuineness as possible so even for something like a fully scripted pre-prepared video where we're looking at some xbox development kit or something like that i will i'll put on my blinders as I walk past the person's desk who's working on it and go out on my way to not even look at it until I land on set. And when they ask me for guidance

about how to prepare it, I'll answer in general terms and I'll be like, look, don't tell me too much. I don't actually want to look right at it. But yeah, I think that's pretty important or that probably won't be. So if somebody else vets it, where do you feel that lies on the fair use spectrum? Oh, well, they'd still be a part of your team. Reaction content can kind of be split into two broad categories. One where it's done after the facts, where nothing is presented to an audience without it already having been seen, edited. You're just using the parts that you need. You come to the other person's content with some specific idea of what you want to create. That's on one side. And there's another side, which is a lot of what happens in live streaming,

where it's just like, oh, that thing's popular. I haven't seen it yet. Let's turn it on and see what happens. The first part there has a good fair use argument often. The second part doesn't really. You're not coming to it with a specific idea of how you can create something new, how you can transform it. It's just this thing's popular. Maybe I say some things, maybe I don't. And let's just keep

watching YouTube videos and let's all be entertained. It's more about the, you know, the bringing together curated content and watching with an audience rather than creating something new from that content necessarily. There's an AI VTuber. I was just going to ask you what you thought about that. And her viewership, well, her, is whatever, viewership doubled from like 2,500 to 5,000 just by showing random clips. So clearly it's not necessarily just the reactor making something amazing by watching clips.

In your case, it would still be curated in the sense that by the time it reaches the audience, anything that's in the video has been specifically tailored to be necessary for what you're creating, which is not the case with live stream VODs

or when they get ripped to YouTube, for example. So I would still say that is vetted content in the vein of that first category of reaction content, which is something I don't usually criticize.

Like I can tell you right now, the video that we shot right before we recorded WAN show last week, reacting to cringe tech commercials. I hadn't seen the vast majority of them before we sat down to record it, but it was absolutely vetted. It was vetted by someone and it's going to be edited to only include the parts that we are going to be specifically providing commentary on. And so, yeah, I think...

And it's necessary for the commentary to make sense. And you came to it with a specific goal. Well, yeah, so I think it's... Also, it's like they're commercials, which from my understanding is any content that exists for the sole purpose of promoting a product or service from a commercial entity is pretty much fair game. You know, you guys literally created this

only to get eyeballs on it. So if anything, I'm helping you. You're welcome. Which is not an argument that you can make about something that is being created for personal enrichment and the enjoyment of the audience, like something like a non uh like uh uh like like a non-fiction like a oh my god like a video essay sure sure a video essay or like a comedy

sketch or something along those lines now i think once again um you know know, back to my whole thing about how the way that I process content is often through reading the comments. I do want to talk about that again, and I know that I'm probably digging myself into a hole here. I did not do a good job of explaining that last week. The main reason why he wants to go over this again is because he's not going to stop doing it. No, I'm not going to stop hole here. I did not do a good job of explaining that last week. The main reason why he wants to go over this again is because he's not going to stop doing it. No, I'm not going to stop doing it. And the reason I'm not going to stop doing it is that what it does is it distills videos down into what's actionable for me. I don't watch YouTube for entertainment. I only really need to know what the audience's interpretation of the content was. And so whether I look at the original

WAN show, or whether I look at your video sort of responding to it, or whether I look at our segment on the following WAN show that was definitely responding to it, but also really only framed as definitely responding to it, was more sort of responding to it the comments actually tell me everything that i need to know as a creator because the nuance of what you said was very likely lost on the viewers who a weren't paying attention to you and b never watched what i said originally anyway and so in terms of what i need to address in my talking points for my following show it's their misunderstandings. It's whatever their interpretation of your video was. And so for that reason, I'm sorry.

I'm not going to stop. I had a meeting with Riley and the Land Show writer this week where they were like, for the love of God, Linus, watch the videos. And I'm like, yeah, if we're responding to something directly, I will. We'll make time. We'll figure it out. We'll make a way to do it. Or at worst, you guys can put direct quotes in, include timestamps. I can watch the relevant parts.

We'll respond to that and we'll just kind of ignore the rest of it or whatever the case may be. Depending. Like if someone makes a two-hour rant, no, I'm sorry. I'm not going to give you an hour of my time at 2x speed or whatever that works out to. Usually I can only process about 1.75x. I'm not a seasoned 2x watcher. But that doesn't change the fact that my primary takeaway from a video is almost always the community response. Which is why it was so clear after last week's WAN show,

reading the comments under that WAN show, that we had to have you on and we had to deal with this because I screwed up. So I could say a lot of things in regards to that, but you have, in other cases on this very show, talked about how you don't like people to put words in your mouth. And certainly, comments will often put words in the mouth of the person who made the video. And you talked, even recently, about how you wanted to remove comments that don't finish the video,

and yet still write a comment and misrepresent what's in the video, don't understand the argument. A lot of comments frustrate me no end. I'll read my comment section and a person will write like half a page in response to the video and I'll be like, did you watch the video? And they're like, no, fuck you. Oh, sorry. Sorry. I think you mean it's very frustrating. Like I can totally understand the comments alongside the video because you're right.

The audience response is quite important, but it doesn't often replace the video itself in terms of how it characterizes things. the audience response is quite important, but it doesn't often replace the video itself in terms of how it characterizes things. Especially my comment section underneath that video, like I've been talking about reaction content for like three years. And so the people who've been with me for that long have that wider context.

And a few comments in the comment section are probably just gonna confuse you. Why are they talking about all these things when how could that all have been fit into a 20 minute video? And they're talking about things that may have happened in a completely different video and you wouldn't have that context and especially if you're not going to watch the video you aren't going to know how accurate those comments are are they mischaracterizations of the content in the

video or are they perfectly accurate um you know as you it is still important to address it either way but the context of the video seems quite crucial um for the comments to make sense oh absolutely sort of so one of the things that reading through the comments on the video actually gave me was a ton of context from your previous videos so it actually that that that knife definitely cuts both ways because i think if you're if you're responding to something on the show if you're responding to something officially you need to actually watch it. No argument there. I think arguing that there is value to absorbing stuff from the comments

is also fair, but just like, yeah. No doubt. Where were you last week? Saying that? I'm pretty sure I disagreed with you on the comments thing last week, but I just didn't really care much because I don't really care back If he wants to know I know he doesn't really watch YouTube so like what am I gonna do? I'm not gonna convince him to start watching a bunch of videos. He's never watched a lot of videos on YouTube

It's always been kind of surprising to me But I have videos and then read the comment section and then on the basis of that determined whether I want to watch the video at all. But, you know, I haven't then, you know, gone on to talk about it. Yeah, that's the core problem. It's not really so much absorbing stuff that way in general. Well, it's the framing, right? So if you were to then talk about that video and say... Let's say Mr. Beast made a video, you know, curing people's blindness. Let's say you were to say something like that. And, you know, I haven't had a chance to check out the video yet,

but what's shocking is that the community response is really split two ways on this. And it's brought up this really interesting debate about, you know, the medical system particularly in america and developing countries and you know the necessity of you know wealthy people needing to come in and and heal the blind anyway like why is this even a thing versus the people that are just like this is good just take it at face value i think you can absolutely have a conversation but it just needs to be framed correctly. It needs to be framed as talking about the community response,

and you just need to acknowledge that you are not responding to the video. You're responding to a rift or a debate that's going on in the broader social media community. So I think it's a combination of things, but it all comes down to there were three clear cell phones and I'm going to own them. I'm going to own them. That's it.

But I'm also not going to stop reading comments primarily as my way of consuming YouTube. And that's precisely why I didn't really push back that hard last week. It's like, he's just going to do that. That's fine. You don't need to watch YouTube. If you you're gonna respond to something that's on youtube you should watch youtube but like yeah yeah in general who cares i mean certainly when i wrote my first essays on uh reaction content i i did put those essays underneath those videos specifically for

people like you who prefer to read things rather than um watch videos. Especially because I was quite proud of those essays. But, you know, not going to change the world. You can't reach enough people. It's, you know. No, I think, I mean, that's something I do still take issue with. Like anyone's perception that I somehow have the power to change this.

It seems like there were a lot of people in the community that feel like as a prominent creator, I can somehow impact the the the rising prevalence of react content i really don't think that's going to happen i think this is going to be one of those things like family vlogging where it's going to take like a a chain reaction of lawsuits from these kids that grow up and go where the f**k's my money uh before that entire genre just implodes on itself. And maybe it takes a chain reaction of rights holders

finally just getting fed up with this and going after prominent streamers in spite of the fact that they're going to face significant community backlash. I mean, you wouldn't know anything about that, but that could be a total thing. They're painful. Back in 2016,

there was a time where reaction content was just like bubbling beneath the surface. Like live streaming certainly hadn't taken off to the degree that it is now so big and there's just so much reaction content on there. And so there was a time where a lot of the big creators did band together and go, what are people doing sitting around

all day watching other people work hard and then making a bunch of money or whatever. And like, just here's a popular thing. I'm going to re-upload it. This is absurd. And the community backlash was huge. And some of the prominent reactors at the time did bail out. What's changed is now like some of the biggest creators are themselves reactors. And the more creators who start doing reaction content of any stripe certainly as I clarify again What short playing to do is not usually what I consider to be reaction content or criticize But that is in the same vein will be seen as a support of this entire ecosystem and it certainly won't help things I don't I'm not saying that you yourself can

Steer the boat in a 180 direction better you do have the ability to influence things, influence the minds of people on basically any topic. It's just, it would take far more than you to, you know, 180 this boat. And I accept that. It takes more than me. It would take, even Mr. Beast coming out against it probably would have certainly impact,

but it wouldn't 180 the boat, you know. We're definitely going to be talking about Mr. Beast and his capability for impact later on the show i he actually tweeted something yesterday or day before or something like that that made me just kind of go man this is going to be uh this is going to be this is going to be interesting um well we'll talk about a little bit later let me just see if there's anything else that i kind of did you have anything else in your notes that you'd wanted to kind of talk to us about or get clarity on? The definition of reaction content? You seem to like a very broad definition. I'm not really sure why. Like back in the day, like the video I made to you would be considered to be a response video.

Right. Yeah, and but now I have people in the comment section being like, oh, this is just a reaction video. And it's like my eyes react to the light. Are they reactors? My lungs react to my need for oxygen. Yeah, but now I have people in the comments section being like, oh, this is just a reaction video. And it's like my eyes react to the light. Are they reactors? My lungs react to my need for oxygen. Are they now reactors? Like this widening of the definition only seems to obfuscate things so that people who are doing truly unethical things can be just like,

oh, it's all the same at the end of the day. But it's not really. The first thing I did when I started talking about this topic was try to distinguish between different types of reaction content and the stuff that i consider to be unethical but uh you seem to want to be like no it's all reaction content i if i can throw in it helps if i can throw in here i had some some thinking about this since we talked about it and i think a lot of the community approaches React content and specifically React, not reaction or reacting, just React content as a filter for types of content. And I think Linus defies React or reaction or reacting or whatever, just the word in general, as a person of the craft who is not looking at categorizing it and is more looking at what are different

things that people care about when they're watching how can we add value how can we improve this video stuff yes how can we how can we create a connection with the viewer right but when you're talking to people about that sure that line gets weird because which is why i defined it when i initially talked about it you just defined it in a way that no one is currently using i defined it when I initially talked about it. You just defined it in a way that no one is currently using. I defined it in a way that made it clear what I was talking about. Sounds good. Look. Within that context, I suppose it's fine. But then, of course, when my video was summarized

using a completely different definition of reaction, and that wasn't clarified, it did seem as though I was criticizing everything that you were talking about your definition but that's the thing is I didn't really feel even before I'd watched the video which I have now even before I had I didn't really feel like it was

super critical because all it said was that you were concerned that it was not possible to create ethical reaction content and so I came out and I said well well, here's how we would try. I mean, that's a fair exchange. Yeah, in part, my objection was more just to the idea of summarizing a video and trying to respond to it.

Oh, and that's more than fair. We've established that. We all agree. Yeah. There was one comment that Luke made last time talking about... Yeah, let's go after Luke for a bit. That sounds great. Talking up on Luke. Dan, you're in.

He questions how things could be unethical despite there being consent involved. And it wasn't actually touched on in the response video I made to you because it is touched on in the other videos. But consent doesn't necessarily make something ethical if people involved are under a false impression of what value they're getting. Or as you did point out, that there can be coercion involved. The example I like to use is like a person selling a stone for $10,000 that protects you from tigers. It can be the case that the person

buying the stone perfectly consents to buying it. It can be the case that the person selling the stone actually believes the stone protects them from tigers. And so there's a perfect consent there. They both agree what the stone does. But as an outside observer, you still wouldn't think that's an ethical exchange or a good thing for society that someone's selling a stone that doesn't actually work, as far as we're aware, to protect that person from tigers. And so that's how I comment reaction content. Like, I consider reaction content... yeah i mean do you want what do you want to know why i brought that argument up by the way did i coerce you into something no because i was trying to get you to stop talking about the video that you hadn't watched

it's fair people people brought up that i did nothing and i'm like i was doing stuff i repeatedly said we hadn't watched it and then kept trying to bring this up, this type of things up at the very least. It just didn't work. He was like, no. Yeah, you weren't good enough. That's the reality. I mean, I don't know.

I think part of where we ended up in trouble, too, was some of the community probably misinterpreted part of your video. I have to say, and this is kind of tough, I hope you take this in the best possible way, there were parts of your video where your point wasn't entirely clear. You would use a WAN clip that was not actually related to the point that you were making, and then go on to say something. So you'd say set set up then when clip that actually had nothing to do with the setup then further clarify

some position about react content in general that was nothing to do with the when clip and that happened a few times i i i disagree well not entirely but somewhat the video was roughly it was it was roughly cut together made fairly quickly and i was trying to get out points that um were from my notes the video that i hypothetically wanted to make in the future and so the clips um probably originally when uh i made the video probably made uh like absolute the context was fairly clear but as i cut it further and further down knowing that have a hard time getting people to watch you know know, a 20 minute video, let alone a half an hour video, whatever it was initially, it may be the context was lost. I don't think the context was entirely lost. But I

do agree that at points, it does seem as if the connection was somewhat tenuous. If there was a non-critical viewing of it, I think there are areas where it was quite easy to misunderstand. Like, for example, you've got a clip where I talk about how it could be used as a way to uplift smaller creators. And then you go on the beginning, this is for business reasons. But then you proceeded to argue against my argument that it was to uplift smaller creators, but that was actually a small sidebar. That was more of a happy accident. And that was the way it was framed. And so if someone didn't watch our original video and only watched your video response, let's call it that. Let's use the old school terminology.

If they only watched your video response, it would seem like you were responding to me thinking that I was some kind of white knight who's going to swoop in and be one of those creators who makes the argument, the bigger I get, the bigger you're going to get, and it's going to be great for all of us, which is absolutely never what we set out to do and absolutely never something that even crossed our minds.

So there were definitely points in the video, and yeah, I get it. Like, it's not always easy to cut something together perfectly, especially for something that was turned around so fast. But after I had watched it, I kind of went, well, I can see why people got this impression. I can see why people came away in the comments

with this idea. Because you were actually responding to something that, or it seemed like it. Now I, with all the context that I have, know that that's actually not what you were doing at all. You were more like you said, summarizing the notes that you've been making over the last

several months, right? With you as a bit of context. But that's what it seemed like. Yo, I don't like. Did people really come away from that video with a negative impression of you? Mostly not. No, mostly not. I thought enough was in there, especially with the end, although most people don't get

to the end of videos, of course. I don't think... That's a big problem. I almost didn't release the video because I do think it wasn't focused on you enough. And a lot of what I talked about in relation to you was at the end. And I looked at the retention, like the average retention was like 10 minutes.

I'm like, oh no. But that's almost the problem with any video, I suppose. And the problem with reading the comments sometimes. So, but no, but the comments were not negative, but they misunderstood. That was what I saw. So it's fine. I think the bottom line is that, yes, I'm using the term react to contain content that would not necessarily be the kind of reaction content that...

I mean, I agree with you, is a cancer. It's a malignant growth. It contributes nothing. And while I don't necessarily agree with your summary of the creator or attention economy entirely, I think it's a little more complicated than that. I think you did a pretty good job of dumbing it down. But I think if you and I were to have a 90-minute conversation off of this podcast,

we could probably get into a lot more nuance about the attention economy. And I might go, well, not quite, Matt. I don't necessarily see it quite that way. And you might say, but this, and we might come to some kind of... You as a content creator have got to understand making things shorter and more digestible and understandable. Exactly. What was I saying? It doesn't matter.

The point is, I'm good. Are you all right? Yeah, absolutely. And it's been an enjoyable experience coming on the WAN show at all. This is, I wouldn't say it was on my bucket list, but it should have been. And you know what?

I do want to say that you actually popped up on my radar before we did the segment on WAN show because of your series. And even though I hadn't watched any of it, people here had. And as we were putting together sort of our ethical reaction content guidelines uh you were a guiding star for us so i kind of wanted to pop that on you on the show so

that you knew that even though i hadn't necessarily watched the the video essay series at least uh two of us in the exec team already had and had already flagged your concerns. Some of it is stuff that I sort of intuitively was like, well, that's stupid. I just think that's crap content anyway, and I just don't want to do it. But other things were just aspects of it that I hadn't considered. And so I'm really glad you did the series because even though maybe it didn't get as many views as you'd like, or maybe it got more backlash than you'd like even though maybe it didn't get as many views as you'd like or maybe it got more backlash than you'd like or maybe it's frustrating because people are misunderstanding it or whatever all the negatives that come out of it um you definitely influenced at least a couple of

key people and you've definitely influenced our approach towards it even if uh you know it might not be perfect every time and we might not agree 100% every time, I think that you made a difference, if that helps at all. Yeah, that's very kind of you to say. Often my biggest issue is not that people disagree with me. It's that they don't even take the time to understand my perspective. They don't watch the video and leave comments being like, oh, you must be wrong. I spent a lot of time on that series. I spent like two months on it or something. And it just frustrates me how many people paint me as a drama whore or something,

especially if the context in which that series came out showed that it was clearly not the case. And so knowing, because I have received a lot of messages from creators saying, oh, this has completely changed my mind on the perspective. And hearing that it has had some impact is nice. It's just, as you say, it's very hard to have ecosystem-changing impacts.

But it is nice to have some impact, I suppose. You've got a lot of fans here. Yeah, for sure. I mean, if there was anyone that we could have inadvertently sort of beefed with, it seems like you were not a good choice. Yeah. Yeah, I don't engage with that many content creators in general,

but it has seemed that most of that engagement has been accidental beef. So maybe I am partly to blame as well. I wasn't going to say it. I want to say I did allude to at least somewhat in a joking manner that your writer may not like me. That was a little bit of a joke. I want to apologize if I caused the writer

any undue stress. I think they're all right. I think they're all right. I probably caused more stress than you did, but by mid-Saturday, I had basically sent out heartfelt apologies to everyone on our side who I had wronged in any way.

And based, it said like, look, let's fix this. Let's move forward. So I think, I think that's pretty much it. I think it's time for us to move forward with the rest of the show.

Thank you so much for coming on. Really appreciate it. Glad we got a chance to kind of bury the hatchet and, and get this at least to a point where we might not agree about what exactly React content is but I think we can agree about what ethical content might

look like in some kind of React-iverse yeah absolutely thank you for having me on and seeing the behind the scenes was very fascinating as well people definitely missing out alright thank you very much take care and have a good And seeing the behind the scenes was very fascinating as well. People are definitely missing out. All right. Thank you very much.

Take care and have a good day, mate. Yeah, because it's morning, right? Yes, yes. Oh, it's just gone to afternoon, but close enough. Oh, yeah. Dan, you screwed up. You put his camera in upside down. This whole time I didn't even notice. I forgot something.

You left on the Southern Hemisphere correction. It's not supposed to. Okay. All right. See you later. See ya. All right. Why don't we jump into our next big topic of the day?

Luke, what do you want to talk about then? Oh, wow. Why don't you pick something? Anchor. You want to talk about anchor? Yeah. All right. Because I'm still mad.

Let's talk about anchor. You're to talk about Anchor? Yeah. All right. Because I'm still mad. Let's talk about Anchor. You're coloring the people's perception. You've got to let them decide for themselves. No. Yeah, I'm pissed off too. They can have their right opinion. Okay. And I'm the one with the ego.

I'm the one with the problem. I think that's still true. Anyways, since whistleblowers revealed serious security flaws last November, journalists have been demanding answers. After a long series of fibs, inaccuracies, and omissions, Anchor has finally acknowledged that the footage on Eufy security cameras was not, as they claimed, natively end-to-end encrypted.

It wasn't. What? No way! No! Amazing! They now claim that they have addressed the issue with the Eufy web portal that made unencrypted camera livestreams

accessible without authentication and will be updating every Eufy camera to default end-to-end encryption via WebRTC. They state that only one device, the video doorbell dual, was sending and storing information on Eufy's cloud without user initiation. Which is too much. It doesn't matter.

Exactly. One is too many when you say it doesn't happen at all. But carry on, Mr. mr lefrenier both interjecting to say the same things like hold on a minute that's irrelevant uh according to their statement this was a copy of a setup image for facial recognition in case the user added an additional device or replaced their existing device i don't care they admit that this was not in line with their local storage mission and the process has been removed they stress that no facial recognition data was included

and that they have no access to users footage while using local storage and no access to users biometric data whatsoever sure yeah see that's the problem is this isn't about how the hardware works or what the policy is or anything they've already lied like multiple times so none of their statements have any value it's about do i believe you at all yeah go on yeah anchor has apologized for poor communication good and confirmed plans to create a bug bounty program okay Okay, now tell me something. Did you read the statement? The statement? Yeah, that anchor released.

Oh, no. Okay, then I'm ahead of you. I read the statement. I didn't just read the comments on it, but I did read those as well. Are you going over it now? It specifically, explicitly is not an apology. I'm not surprised. Because that's what they did last time too. they actually read the last one no it's bizarre like they go out of their way to say

this is not an apology we will apologize later that's weird so that's really okay if i were to take if i were to take That's really weird. If I were to take the statement at face value, it seems like they want to get all their ducks in a row and provide the whole story alongside a heartfelt apology. But from my point of view, it looks like legal butt covering. That's the only reason that i can see from a corporate standpoint not to apologize because an apology is an implicit admission of guilt of wrongdoing not as much in canada which is why we say sorry a lot if they apologize they're basically

saying we did something wrong whereas if they don't apologize, if they specifically say, we're not apologizing, but we'll apologize later once we've got everything figured out, they're basically just stalling. Geepo839 in floatplane chat said, this is not an apology. It's just a tribute.

Which is a very good reference. I approve. I approve this tribute. Yeah, that sucks. That sucks a lot. At this point, like, I'm going to skip the last couple notes. We're going to go right into the discussion question. What will Anchor need to do in order for the community at large to accept their apology?

Can we ever trust them again? Massive, like, brutalizing leadership change? Like, I can't imagine the thing that steered this ship so far I would ever trust again. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think that's... But then, here's the thing. If they told you

that everyone responsible has been axed, would you even believe them? Yeah, I don't know. Like, the problem is not even that they lied. That's part of the problem. That's a big part of it. The problem is not even that they lied. That's part of the problem. The problem is that they lied and lied again and lied about lying and lied some more. And then finally, when they absolutely had their back to the wall, they said, They said, we're sorry that you're upset.

We'll apologize once we're sure if we did anything wrong and what it was. And that will happen later. What the f*** are you talking about? Ridiculous. When you do something, like, okay, imagine this. When you do something wrong. Sorry, I need to i need to take stock of what exactly to review the footage happened there yeah i need to i need i'm gonna have to check the i'm gonna have to read the comments and see if people think that i was in

the wrong or your arm shouldn't have been there i'll get back to you later with an apology elbow gate too what is that that? That's stupid. Yeah. If you actually own that you did something wrong, you apologize right away. You don't wait. I don't think there's much else to say here. I mean, we can put up a poll if you really want.

So wacky. Realistically, I can tell you from my point of view, we are not taking Anchor back as a sponsor, as a business collaborator. It's not happening. I don't know if this this is true but i'm going to assume it was true there was probably an opportunity for that to happen well yeah of course the ship has sailed well yeah the ship sailed the second that the security researcher said hey guys this and they didn't immediately go holy crap we're gonna fix this sorry massive. Sorry. Massive oversight, big patch. Yeah, yeah.

Boo, boo, boo. Even if that was a lie, it would have been the correct lie. I won't say anything is the right lie because there's no right lie, but there is a correct lie. But they couldn't even play the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They couldn't even pretend. They're just like, nope, yeah. They couldn't even pretend. They're just like, nope, nope. If you don't want to be associated with the CCP, don't act like them. Yeah, yeah. Because that's the reality, right? That's fair enough. Like from a certain point of view, yes, okay, every Chinese corporation has some pressure on them from the CCP.

But that doesn't mean you have to actually behave just like them. When you're caught lying, you just lie more. And I don't get it. Is there, like, something in the water in, like, Russia, China region? I mean, not that, frankly um western leadership lies that much less i mean that's politicians or less at all to be completely honest i guess it's just it's like the bald faceness of it you know like they're not even they're not even giving me any respect whatsoever they're going i didn't do that right you can't prove I did it yeah I mean they at least give me something plausible

like I'm sorry I have a rare condition that causes muscle spasms it's like Tourette's but for physical violence like I just you know actually I mean I doubt so extreme that you would like hit people

but like it's I don't know Actually, I mean, I doubt so extreme that you would like hit people. But like it's... I don't know. At least make up something plausible. You know? Help me out here. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's pretty straightforward. Should we jump into a more positive one?

Yeah. Because I think this is actually pretty good. YouTube shorts. You know? You think this is good? Because youtube shorts you know you think this is good because i'm mad oh you go ahead no hit me hit me let's go youtube has rolled out revenue sharing for shorts as of february 1st rather than uh attaching ads to specific videos youtube will pool the revenue from ads that appear in the shorts feed That pool is then split into a pool for fees and music licensing and a pool for creators.

No, no, that's fine. That's fine. Because this is the way to combat TikTok. TikTok is just going to not respect copyright and not pay anything to license holders. And realistically, anyone operating in this hemisphere is not going to be able to get away with that. So this is the way to make it so that shorts can contain copyrighted music.

So you can actually have clips from Rihanna and Drake, Taylor Swift, whatever else, so that you can upload the same content to YouTube Shorts that you could to TikTok. And unlike TikTok, YouTube is actually going to share some of the revenue from that. So now that there's no huge disadvantage, other than TikTok's creation tools, but hopefully they'll catch up. So now that there's no huge disadvantage in your content, like you can't have music or whatever, hopefully there'll be a big migration to shorts, which should be more profitable and or force TikTok to actually compensate creators. So overall,

everything you've said so far is good. I don't think I scrolled down far enough earlier when I was skimming through this to see the caveat section. Some of that is BS. We'll get there in a second, though. I just read the first three bits and I thought it was actually really cool. Anyways, shorts that use one music track will be taxed 50% of their views, the ad revenue for which is then paid to rights holders of said music. YouTube then takes 55% of the cut of the remaining ad revenue. And finally, the rest is split among eligible creators based on views. In summary, if YouTube Shorts makes just say $100 to make this easy in ad revenue, and 20% of those shorts use a song. So remember, if it uses a song, it's 50% of the views.

But let's say only 20% of the shorts actually use a song. Then the music industry gets 10 bucks. YouTube gets 49.50. And the creators split $40.50. There's some important caveats though. A lot of this is based around the ad not playing before your specific video, right? So it assumes you're in the shorts feed. Okay.

YouTube doesn't count views from outside said shorts feed. For example, if a viewer clicks on a short from a creator's library, not counted. What? What? on a short from a creator's library not counted what what youtube also doesn't share revenue from ads on navigation pages leading to shorts or the first ad that plays in the shorts feed if it comes before the first video what what we asked a representative from youtube we did and we asked more than one representative from YouTube, actually. Because YouTube has asked me, respectfully, to not just go live and make a video and crap on their policies and procedures and business.

And we did it anyways. Without at least, you know, giving them a chance to talk me down. Without at least giving them a chance to talk me down. Without at least giving them a chance to not do anything. So I said, hey, this isn't going to change anything, because realistically, I've seen the pattern over and over again. I don't get attention unless I make a bunch of noise publicly, but I'll tell you what, I'll play along. I will go through the chain of command, and I will raise my concerns with all the appropriate

people before I go live with a denouncement of your extremely crappy, two-faced approach to revenue sharing in shorts. So I did. It did nothing. And so we're talking about it. So that was a big waste of time. I think next time, YouTube, I won't bother. Because it was clearly a waste of time.

You guys are obviously wrong. You guys are obviously being disingenuous here. And it didn't matter. Because you don't care. Because I actually don't know what makes you care. And this is an extremely dangerous step from my point of view. I don't know what is going on with YouTube leadership right now because Google somehow, and it almost feels like by accident, Google has somehow managed to be the one company that has successfully figured out the key to retaining their creators,

to maintaining those relationships and building a library of content that you guys come back to the site for time and time and time again. They're also the refuge for other dying platforms. Find Dyes, they come here. An equitable revenue sharing approach. And this is the first time that I've looked at something and gone, well, that was obviously, clearly something that should have been shared with creators. And you just went, no, I don't think I will. So here's the thing. Here's the big problem.

Their argument for why that first ad, when you click into the shorts shelf, it used to be called, I don't know what they call it now. Shorts something. I don't know. Feed. Yeah. Their argument for why that first ad, when you navigate into the shorts feed, should not go into the pool is that they haven't interacted with a short yet. So there would be no way of knowing what short that ad view should be attributed to. YouTube?

That's the whole point of pooling it. Remember? Remember that whole deck that you went through with me for like 45 minutes explaining this whole system where you were going to compensate the music rights holders and then create these pools and then it would be a shared pool because the truth is we have no unlike a normal video where you actually interact with the video and then there's a pre-roll and then there's a mid-roll and then there's a post-roll and whatever where you can clearly say okay this viewer was retained by this video and these ads are associated with this video

the whole point of pooling it is that you can't do that so riddle me this why would anybody click on the shorts feed if they weren't driven there by shorts creators what makes you think that it was it was you and you alone who is was responsible for that interaction for that ad view. There is actually zero rational defense. There is no logical defense for this because they already laid out the reason for everything being pooled. And, you know, okay, so why am I flipping out over this?

They took my money. In reality, YouTube AdSense is already a fraction of our revenue. And of that, Sh shorts is a tiny, just infinitely small fraction. Not for everyone, though. This doesn't hurt me. We've got LTT Store.

We've got LTX. We've got our direct sponsor relationships. Like, we're fine. Not even mentioned. We're 100% fine. Right there, though. Let's go. Flow plane! We're 100% fine. Right there, though. Let's go. The plane!

We're fine. But this is not fine. And it represents just, like, what is going on over there? Like, Google was supposed to be the less evil tech giant, right? And certainly they haven't been always. But did you see how they handled the last round of layoffs? Not one, but multiple ex-Google employees reported getting an email laying them off while they're sitting in the hospital with their newborn child. And I'm sitting here going, even if that's legal. I don't know how true or real this is, but I read a short little story thing about someone who was traveling, but they were in the States on a work visa.

And they got fired while they were traveling over email. So they can't come back. So like their stuff, their car, everything is just like they're getting one of their friends to like sell it for them. And they just have to like, yeah, I don't know. Really brutal. Yeah. So in a nutshell, this is a super slippery slope. And you know what?

Honestly, I'm not expecting anything good to come of this. If anything, if I was Google, I would just kind of listen to come of this. If anything, if I was Google, I would just kind of listen to my feedback and go, well, we just won't clarify that next time. We will just write the policy in such a way that it never raises this question. So we'll say all ads displayed between short videos are eligible for the pool pool and then just quietly

just well we'll just put some ads at the beginning but they weren't between they weren't between anything so um then we just need spiffing brit to figure it out for us i i don't even i this is probably because i don't watch enough shorts but i don't even get it. If I click on a short, like if I'm on the YouTube app thing and I click on a short, it doesn't immediately play an ad, right? It plays the short that I click on. No, but from the YouTube app, if you just click shorts, if it plays an ad before it plays a short, they go, well, that's ours. That had nothing to do with short's creators.

That's obviously wrong. That was all us. Absolute bulls**t. 100%. I was trying to pick a lift-me-up topic. Man, it didn't work and the discussion question here is like why act in bad faith over such a petty amount of money

that actually is a really good question because compared to traditional ads i do not expect the shorts fund in general the shorts pool in general and i especially do not expect this small percentage of ads that they're displaying before they actually play a short to even make an impact so why carve it out it's ludicrous yeah i i i i have no idea i i want to kind of assume that it has something to do with like shareholder happiness because stocks in general for a while have been a little, as far as I know, they're going slightly up recently. I don't know.

I mean, that's the thing. It's been a little brutal. Like that's the thing. That's what I'm talking about with Google right now though. It's like they're still a company that's making literally billions of dollars a quarter and they're sitting there going okay we need to we need to cut this cost we need to we need to squeeze blood from this stone here we need to you know whatever and i'm looking at it going like no the reason you guys just brought the founders back in

is because of the of the absolutely existential like threat that is chat gT and AI chat assistance this doesn't even register why are you fighting such a ridiculous battle and honestly I don't even think I don't even think a shareholder this wouldn't merit mention on a shareholder call anyway yeah I don't know

I don't know i don't know i don't know and i so yeah so tom xyz goes google missed earnings per share by 12 this quarter right that's not gonna make up 12 yeah it won't it will do absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things for google and in spite of that big miss big big problem Google made billions and billions of dollars this quarter so okay I don't know maybe I'm just maybe I'm just not

getting it maybe I'm not getting it you know what will make me feel better telling you about our sponsors nice where the heck are they ah yes You know what will make me feel better? Telling you about our sponsors. Nice. Nice. Where the heck are they?

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has your back. Try it out today using the link in the video description. Are you going to manage to pick a positive topic for a change? No. Can I trust you to do this? But someone in Floatplane Chat named This Past Winter said something that I think is actually kind of brilliant. I'm going to start making shorts that are reactions to ads that YouTube plays before shorts. Oh, where's your defense now, YouTube? What's up? What's up now, YouTube?

Got him. I wanted to talk about, and maybe we will anyways, but maybe not right now. I wanted to talk about Blizzard penalizing players who regularly play with cheaters. Yeah, I want to talk about that. The topic is not filled out. I can just read from the source. Well, I don't think the topic's going to get any more filled out than it is now. True. Okay.

Going for it. True, true. The Overwatch 2 team is frustrated with the amount of cheaters. Apparently, they've banned, where is it, 50,000 accounts, I think. Wow. Over 50,000 accounts have been actioned, whatever that means. I think that might be a range from temp bans to permanent bans, whatever. Since launch, Blizzard has apparently had enough to the extent it's no longer just targeting the cheaters,

but those who go along with them. Awesome. So if you see someone cheating on your team, you need to book it out of the... It's saying who regularly play with cheaters. I suspect it's going to have something to do with the partying system. Ah. So if you kind of go, well, I'm not cheating. But I'm hiding behind a tank who has infinite health or whatever. This is a big deal for games that have any form of ranking system or have any form of external.

Say you were playing some form of game where you could gain a lot of some type of resource, whether it's like loot or money or whatever, from demolishing a bunch of enemies. Well, if you play with a cheater who does that, then you can gain all that resource if you're playing a game where you're trying to rank where you're trying to play competitively you can boost your account by playing with someone who's cheating to get your account boosted there's a lot of different benefits that you can get from getting carried by so right so if you just have some like random account and you're just like yo but yo buddy play play this one and party up with me. Let's go. Yeah. So hammering down on people like that. Also, making it so that kind of forcing the community to do this, which is good. Start to self-police. Yeah.

If you figure out that your buddy's cheating. Like, hey, stop. Get him to stop. Because you don't want to get banned. What's the difference between this and like the social credit system exactly? Oh, come on. Okay. Okay. I was being a jerk

yeah but you you shouldn't want to play with people who cheat i have read online sentiment of people who are like well i'm not cheating i don't like loot their kills or i don't uh i don't i don't whatever i don't interact in whatever way so i don't really care and it's like no that's bs you should stop playing with them and you should like pressure your friends to not cheat in games because it's it's stupid unless obviously it's single player games that can be i gotta tell you i don't play with cheaters i had i had a mixed doubles partner that i was playing with for a while in badminton and at a tournament on a on a match point i watched them make an obvious bad call.

Um, and I was just like, yeah, I mean, I hope it was worth it to you, but I'm never playing with you again. I just don't do that because if you don't respect the spirit of competition, why are we all doing this? What's the point?

It was like in, and they said it was out. Clearly in, and they called it out. Yeah. And the way it works in a rec tournament where it's not, you don't have like, you know, paid officials or anything like that is the call is up to the person whose

side it lands on. And it's an honor system. But from my point of view, they basically just demonstrated, they have absolutely no honor whatsoever. Yeah. And you don't want to be associated with that. I don't want to be associated with that. Like I'm, the thing is like, so is, my reputation means a lot to me.

When I call something out, I want people to go, well, it must have been out then. So I will go out of my way if I'm not sure. If I am under 80%, 85% sure, I just go, just take it. Always. And I don't think this is going to work, though. I don't think they're going to be able to police this consistently. I think it will work somewhat.

You think so? There are absolutely people in a wide variety of games, probably more games than you'd even expect, that will pay for carries consistently um and i i think that is going to be trackable do i think it's going to be a huge number of people probably not um no bad chair and float plane says in escape from tarkov a game i have played but suck at so i understand what you're talking about at least. It's common practice to pay a cheater to clean your server and loot everything.

So they'll just whiz around and kill the entire lobby so all the players will die. And then any AI that spawns in, they'll just kill them. And they'll just tell you where all the loot is. And they can scan the entire map, see where all the high-value loot is. They can see all the loot that's on different players that they killed.

So they just tell you where to go. You pick everything up. And then you just chat it out and... And you exit with all your money, all your quest completion, all your progress, everything you needed. They can even like...

What's the point? They can set their targeting system so that the cheater shoots people's legs. So they become like borderline immobilized. You can kind of hobble around, but that's it. And then the player can go around and pick them off. Yeah. Like it's super brutal.

Have you had that happen to you before? That exact scenario? I honestly don't think so. Right. But I have died from cheaters many times in Escape from Tarkov. It's a reality of playing the game, to be honest. Right. It's not constant.

Like, I don't think we've ever had that happen when we were playing. Not that we could tell. Not that we could tell. That's a big problem with it, is when it happens enough, it adds a reasonable level of doubt of the legitimacy of the other player. Yep. So if something happens, that's like desync, right? Server desync. So they kind of chopped on your screen oddly or

something like that. And it's just server problems. But to you, it might look like they're speed hacking. Yeah, for sure. And you die to it. So you're like, oh, that's a cheater. But no, it's just some server problem. Or maybe something weird happened. You didn't realize it. Maybe the person that actually killed you was like way off on the side but you don't know that because they have no replay system they have no uh overwatch or is it called overwatch whatever the system that counter-strike has um where this is an amazing system and way more games need this type of system it's fantastic um but counter-strike has this this thing where you can watch gameplay because you know with uh counter-strike you can like replay games because it logs all the

information not as a video but as a file yeah and you can replay it back so you can watch gameplay from those players um see if they were snapping to you or whatever else yeah and some like streamers and stuff will just do it as like a fun content tool reacting to cheaters killing me or whatever yeah and it will and because you can yeah you can replay your match and then if more games had that you would get more legitimate reports because i guarantee you there are times in escape from tarkov for example i have reported players yeah that were legit i don't know that. But they're just good. But just out of the amount of times I've reported people, I am certain it has happened.

Right. Maybe it was a desync issue. Sorry, brother. Maybe it was someone different. Yeah, I don't know. And I hope if they were legit, they didn't get banned. I'm sure they didn't because the amount of people that aren't legit that aren't banned. But I'm also sure that I have reported the people

that are cheating. So I don't know. It would be better if I could Watch the map back maybe maybe once the entire thing was fully completed and the map was fully closed You could finally watch it back But being able to see Being able to see how things happen and being able to get more legitimate and being able to get more legitimate reporting.

Be able to get more legitimate reporting would be good. And I think there should be ways, and I can think of a lot of games where there would be a way for this. I believe Overwatch has loot boxes. I haven't played it in a long time. It did last time I played it. Make it so that like, oh, if you get a bunch of success,

like if you do that system where you review gameplay yeah and you vote the the way that it ends up being like decided yeah like once you do like 10 of them or something correctly you get a loot box or something yeah like try to incentivize people to engage in the system in this kind of community policing i guess because no one's going to like as much as we all want to say it none of these developers are going to solve this problem you cannot solve cheating in video games yeah we were actually we were having a conversation about this not on one show a little while ago and just talking about how sophisticated cheating methods

are already today and how we are already at a point where you actually cannot stop it. I mean, there already exists systems where you can just have a mechanical arm moving an actual peripheral just connected to a normal system. The system has no cheating software running on it whatsoever. You can just use screen capture and then even do external screen capture like there there are ways to do it that it is 100 legitimately impossible to detect so like okay sure there are also cheats that are possible to detect and i'm sure there's lots of games game developers uh that could do a job. But continuing that argument is not super useful. I think the more useful argument is adding more tools for the community to be able to self-police

as much as it can. I actually like this initiative because it incentivizes people to not play with friends of theirs that they might know are cheating. Yeah, turn them into pariahs. It will also get them to be like, kind of question people that are acting super suspicious. Be like, bro, are you cheating? Because I don't want to get banned with you if you are. Yeah, so basically it's the social credit system. I can't believe you're defending this. I like it in this case.

And adding... So that's the line for you. Video game cheating. Yeah, video game cheating. That's where you'll accept a surveillance state. Yep. you heard it here first folks uh and adding systems like that like that counter-strike system where you can review gameplay even even just even if it's not the overwatch or whatever it was called type of

system that counter-strike had even it was just being able to view a gameplay, sorry, view a replay of the game that you can see from any perspective and then being able to report on your own from that view. Yeah, that'd be a total game changer. Because there's a bunch of times in Tarkov specifically where I'm like, that was really suspicious,

but I have no idea. And if I could just watch it back, I would make my decision then. Yeah. But right now, I'm just going to report it because... Yeah, you're blind. Yeah, well, I don't know. You're in the dark.

Yeah. On that note, Mr. Beast for president. This week, Mr. Beast released a video where he paid for a thousand blind people to receive cataract surgery. And a lot of people are big mad. Okay, so let's unpack that. This kind of philanthropic slash giveaway content is fairly typical for Mr. Beast. And the surgeries were done in partnership

with Sea International. Mr. Beast's rationale for it can be found in a tweet that was posted the same day um actually you know what let's do the criticisms first so one this is the monetization of people's suffering the charity contributes resources to helping people mean meaning not all of the money that made this happen is from Mr. Beast, and the additional attention will lead to future profits from him. Okay? Number two is that people who can't afford surgery shouldn't have to wait for random acts of kindness

from a wealthy celebrity to fix basic problems. And this applause and focus on individual charity distracts from the structural changes that need to happen. And number three criticism was, it's kind of cringe, yo. Some viewers reported feeling deeply uncomfortable with the general dynamic of a rich dude making a video of person after person being desperately grateful to him. Now, let's go back to, so in this case, this is someone that I actually do know personally. It's not like we've spent many, many, many months together working side by side or in the fields harvesting wheat or whatever he's making videos about these days. I don't know.

I could see him doing like I spent 30 days harvesting wheat in a field. Who knows? He could make it entertaining. Do you deny it? I probably could. Okay. So the point is, but this is an individual that I actually know. And so first of all are the defenses.

So I already said this, but this kind of philanthropic slash giveaway content is pretty on brand for him, pretty typical. And his rationale can be found in a tweet posted the same day. And this is what he said. I don't understand why curable blindness is a thing why don't governments step in and help even if you're thinking purely from a financial standpoint it's hard to see how they don't roi on taxes from people being able to work again um that is one of the most

uh how do i put this i like jimmy a lot he's i think he's pretty transparent that his you know his main goal is to be the biggest youtuber ever i don't think he shies away from that and i i don't think he i don't think he hides from the fact that um you know a lot of what he does is in service of that goal right not even hides he he promotes that he has no issue however something that you guys have got to understand about him is that a he's super super young and has basically lived in a bubble creating youtube comment content for like his entire adult life and two is that i think the youtube content aside and wanting to be the biggest YouTuber and whatever else aside, I think he genuinely has a good heart. And what's really interesting to me is this tweet is either

engineered to be as viral as possible, which is an option. You know, he certainly could do it. If there's anyone who I could look at and say, you know, yeah, that probably, those words in that order is probably whatever would perform the absolute best. He could do that. I wouldn't, yeah, I believe it. But I want to believe it's something else. I want to believe it's an awakening where he is figuring out that for him to actually make a difference in the world, he needs to promote societal change, structural change, rather than just making charity porn, which is what some people described the curing blindness video as. described the curing blindness video as however I think that he's going to encounter well he's already encountering but I think that if he actually goes down this path of hey this is just kind

of common sense from us from a from a common good standpoint we should all work together to cure this very curable illness so that this person can even just purely from a financial standpoint contribute more to our nation's GDP, right? Like we should just all do this. I think that particularly in the nation where he lives, he's going to run into a lot of... Pushback. Yeah, a lot of resistance.

And it's baffling to me because I already live in a country where this surgery is just fine that you just get it. And do you get it tomorrow? Not necessarily. Okay, it's a triage system. If something more urgent comes along, you will probably get bumped.

And we often have shortages. And we often have shortages. But that's a, I mean, that's a long conversation. Part of our shortages are because we have a significant brain drain down to the for-profit medical system down in the States where doctors can make way more money at predatory hospitals than they could up here. So that's a whole, that's a whole can of worms. We're not going to bother trying to unpack today.

Our system's not perfect, but like much like I think Jimmy is trying to get across here. Shouldn't we all be trying? The timing is really interesting. I don't know if you saw this but uh the u.s house of representatives uh passed a motion which is kind of meaningless it's just posturing but passed a motion denouncing socialism i'm not convinced that most of the people who voted on it actually understand what it is for starters um because like basically that's that's like this tweet in a nutshell is like hey wouldn't it be better for the common good if we just like cured curable

blindness so that like people could get back to work like doesn't that seem like a positive thing um i don't know man i jimmy for president i i i think that he should set his sights higher than being the biggest youtuber i think if there's anyone that has the charisma and has just enough of a no-nonsense common sense approach that he could actually disrupt it this this broken system he's too young do you have to like put your business on hold or anything well apparently not yeah i mean that was the norm yeah we experienced that that was yeah that was you could just keep making youtube videos so i doubt that would fly i mean from

my understanding off white house grounds without the secret service stopping actual real edition no joke i would watch the yeah i mean it would be huge for views it'd be massive for views yeah so i mean okay look we've got people talking in the chat right like he would get he would get stopped by the swamp. The opposition would stop him. He'd get monster votes. That's the thing. That's the thing. Is no matter...

Free Beast Burger with every vote. No matter who you are, I think that, you know, whatever your political leanings are, you could probably use a dose of common sense. You know, I think that on both sides of the political spectrum, we could all use a little bit more common sense. And Jimmy's not perfect. I'm not perfect. Nobody's perfect.

So I'm not saying he'd fix everything. He'd be perfect, perfect president. Nothing like that. but i think overall his heart's in the right place and uh you know my worthless endorsement as a canadian uh being what it is i uh i i support jimmy for president that's it that's it that's all i have to say about that wow how old do you have to be to be president 45 i think 35 yeah so he's not even eligible for but that's the thing he's got 10 years he's got 10 years for the dumpster fire to get more dumpster fiery for the polarization to exhaust

everyone and for him to come in and say i I have a better way. What about just positivity? What about just trying to help people? What about seeing problems and going, why isn't this fixed? How is this still a problem? That's the right attitude. And that's what has made him successful so far. So all he has to do is hold on to that for 11 more years, him successful so far. So all he has to do is hold on to that for 11 more years. 21 more years. Whatever it is. Apparently it's 35. There you go.

Oh, he's not 14. Yeah. Whatever it works out to. He's just gotta keep grounded. Which is tough. I mean, he's gonna be the first billionaire YouTuber. Mark my words. Yeah, but I don't think he's going anywhere like anywhere as in away i mean that's what he tells me but i have told him on multiple occasions everyone wears out it's tiring you haven't yet you got real close you

know i've been close yeah but you also like can't stop yeah i feel like he has the same type of mentality yeah we're a lot of like he's just way better than me yeah and i just have a tech obsession i was gonna say he picked like youtube as his thing in general i didn't pick tech tech picked me yeah yeah i don't i don't make the rules i i was lucky enough that tech i i kind of jumped onto it at a time when it was exploding into the mainstream like the fact that most people care about a phone at all like i'm thinking about when i was a kid people didn't care about what phone are you kidding me like the thing that you like

dial like this with the rotary like like, come on. Right. So I just happened to be passionate about tech and tech happened to be at an inflection point where it completely took over our lives. And I've ridden that wave. Yeah. I couldn't play the game like he does. What I could play is how to sell a lot of desk pads on lttstore.com. Hey!

I don't know if you guys noticed this. Want me to open one of these? I know a lot of you probably did, though. But we finally, finally, I'm not talking limited edition, you know, small run desk pads or anything like that. Or, you know, special graphics or anything like that. We finally launched a new desk pad the same way we did the northern lights desk pad i'm talking i'm talking look at all these sizes that's right any size you want the price is the same 29.99. And this one's different.

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but it would break it up. It would break it up. We wanted the stealthiest desk pad. It's like while everyone else wants to cram their brand down your throat, we have actually gone completely the opposite direction. Even the box has like barely any. Well, there's the side. There's the one side. Yeah, but most of it's just black that's true sarah designed that box there is

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Don't buy white mouse pads. Do not. Do yourself and everyone who has to look at your setup a favor by not buying a white desk pad. Don't do it. And since we're talking about LTT Store, now's a good time to talk about merch messages. You guys are probably seeing them come across the bottom here. Our producer Dan, there he is.

Hi, producer Dan, is going through all of your messages. And the way to send a merch message is to go into lttstore.com, pick up a desk pad or a water bottle or even just a gift card. If you just want to send in a message to the show and dan might reply to you if you just have like a shout out like hey mom or whatever you can have it flashed down here uh and he'll select a small number of them not too many today dan let's get out of here at a reasonable time no for real do it the way you usually do it yes it's it's fine it's fine it's a lot today. Well, anyway, you can pick out a handful for us to talk about at the end of the show, maybe respond to.

Maybe do you want to give us a few now, and then we'll do the rest of them at the end? Yeah, sure. Absolutely. I've got a couple of curated ones here. Let me just keep scrolling. Okay, this is from Bo. Hi, Luke and Linus. Just curious to see if you had any memorable arcade moments from back in the day.

Arcade moments? Yeah. You ever been to an arcade? Not going to lie, I was poor. And arcades were very expensive. Yep. I probably spent a grand total in my life, or my childhood life, of maybe like 20, 30 bucks in the arcade total, ever, growing up. 30 bucks in the arcade total ever growing up and that's i'm i'm like i'm including like that couple of times that my dad took me to the bar and we stayed way too long when i was like quite

young and somehow i don't i don't even know why i was in there but i was in there and you know those chocolates the the square ones that have like the the color on a triangle and they're gold wrapped and they have like they're purple and green. Yeah. Anyway, I just I remember this one time really vividly. I had a lot of those and I played Pac-Man a fair bit. I'm including I'm including everything here. Maybe like 20, 30 bucks. That's it.

I suspect I'm pretty similar because of a pretty similar situation. I know we went to palladium once i went to palladium a grand total of one time in my life yeah me too one time yeah and it was like kind of cool but i remember even when i was a little kid just being like you know if you hung out here for a while like the money's going away so fast yeah like it was shocking how fast the money went away for me i remember like being very young because I don't think Palladium was around for all that long. And I remember thinking back then, like the speed at which this could be,

you know, dumped into an entire video game that you could take home. So that's the thing is we're a different generation from the 80s kids who didn't have the same games on their home system. We had home consoles. That's right. We had home consoles. That's right. We had home consoles.

So for the price of going to the arcade for like an hour, I could go to, oh man, it's going to escape me. What was my childhood video store called? Willow Video Games. I know you know yours. It's still there. That's cheating. You drive past it probably on a weekly basis.

It's awesome. What was mine called, though? If you're visiting the area, check it out. They're very cool. They sell retro games. If anyone knows, okay, what was the rental store? I know the girl who worked there. Her name was Michelle.

I know her name still, but I don't remember what it was called. Gone Hollywood Video? No, it was on the corner by where the Bosley's was in one of the crappy shopping centers. No, it wasn't Blockbuster.

It was a small independent one. If anyone remembers, in Ladner. Jumbo Video? No, it wasn't that. if anyone gets it i'll i'll definitely remember it but it's there's no point guessing guys if you grew up in ladner then then you'll know um oh man this is driving me crazy i have no idea yeah it doesn't matter oh yeah obviously you wouldn't know no someone's like, oh, online has had a crush. A hundred percent. Like, seriously, I was only like seven or eight, but definitely. All right.

Let's, yeah, this is clearly not going to happen. Nope. Nope. People are not going to get it. That's fine. That's fine. It doesn't matter. The point is, like, nevermind buying a game.

I could rent it. You don't live there anymore. It's not a docks. I could rent it for like five bucks. Yeah. And then I could play it for like two days. Yeah. I used to rent games. Yeah, a hundred percent. I would work random odd jobs and then rent it for like five bucks. Yeah. And then I could play it for like two days. Yeah. I used to rent games.

Yeah. A hundred percent. Work random odd jobs and then rent games for sure. Yeah. I am certain I spent more money renting games than I did in arcade. For sure. For sure. This is driving me crazy.

I cannot remember. You're not going to figure it out. I know. Let's move on. I hate this. I'm so mad. If you think about it in like an hour, we're still somehow doing show you can bring it up then yeah fine okay okay fine let me move another one yeah i go in here from tristan long time viewer and wanted to say thanks for all the

content over the years is there any obsolete piece of technology that you still use or wish you had been continuing uh or wish you had or wish had been continued as a product and if so why i mean i i think man i was about to say crts but i actually don't miss them at all now that oleds and like to move around and especially the the kind of filtering that you can do now on an OLED. I just, yeah, forget it. See you later, CRTs. Man, you know what? Fine, sure, Pebble.

Pebble smartwatch. I wish that they hadn't been acquired. I wish that they were still doing their thing because they were the only just zero bullshit approach to building a smartwatch. They were affordable. They were gone too soon. Gone too soon.

Pebble. Bring back Pebble. I have something that you're going to say is objectively wrong and I won't be able to strongly argue against. You're wrong. Physical storage medium for games. Oh, my God. Ugh.

I miss physical storage. I miss it. I'm not going to lie. There was a thing I was reading about where some company figured out how to put some insane amount of data storage on an optical disc. And they were like, this is going to be the future. And I was like, like good it's not happening good it's never coming back good it's never coming back everything is going to be as a service you will own nothing you will own nothing and you will be happy about it the fact that he's

right does not make me happy yeah people keep saying video land video land is in tuasen which is within the same like jurisdiction as ladner like it's all technically part of delta but tuasen is not ladner um ladner is a different like geographical part of delta sorry they're still trying though hit me dan okay this one's from alexander hey there last week you all talked about how nice bidets were in asia i think we western audiences get a bit spoiled thinking we have all the latest in tech here what does the non-western world have a leg up on the u.s. slash eu vis-a-vis tech oh man i mean there's a there's a lot of things. Like, there's all kinds of, like, Japan-exclusive phones and stuff. Just, like, cool form factors, cool designs, cool features.

I don't think it's to the same degree now that it was in the past. But, man, like, when broadband internet was happening, when high-definition video was first starting out japan was so far ahead of the rest of the world that it just blew my mind i'm like i'm i'm sorry i am just hearing about the existence of high definition video and this has just been a thing for regular japanese broadcasts for years and years now well where's mine yeah yeah yeah i don't know there's a when you when you travel a bit stuff changes a lot more than i would have expected like when i when i first started traveling for work the only difference i really expected was like oh we're gonna run into language barrier stuff but the world's so connected these days everyone shares

everything a lot of the processes for how things are going to work are just going to be what i'm about to say to chinese yeah that'll be the only thing i have to do and that's a fun activity i actually genuinely really enjoy that but there's a lot more funky stuff like i if i remember correctly again in japan you carry around like a stamp that's unique to you or maybe don't carry it around but for like legal documents and stuff you use your like unique oh that's cool i've never heard of that that might be totally wrong i'm sorry if i butchered that um and a lot of other countries will have like some little random unique thing to them um and sometimes they make a lot of sense and sometimes they don't yeah this is hilarious um irftw says nhk, Japan's national broadcaster for TV,

broadcasts in 8K for some programs. That's crazy. Okay. One more? Sure, absolutely. I've got one here from Andrew. GPUs used to have video capture built in. I had a GeForce 4 with S video in. With the hardware encoding GPUs have baked in these days, it seems like a

no-brainer for them to include capture as well. Why do you think they don't include it? Uh, the reason is DRM. That's why. Uh, there's, there's, there was a whole thing, you know, if you want to go down a rabbit hole for how lobbying destroys tech innovation go look up cable card so there was a whole standard that existed and was built to do exactly what you're talking about to allow content broadcasters to encrypt their signals so that they could actually you know protect actually protect their copyrighted content, but also allow users to install a card in their computer that could be loaded with this decryption module so that they could DVR on a computer instead of having to deal with

a VHS player or a DVHS player. We did a video about DVHS recently, which was super cool. And basically, because of lobbying efforts, the whole thing got shut down. None of the cable companies wanted to support it because they would rather lease you a box that you don't own,

rather than have you own your computer and capture your content there where it can be easily viewed again. So that's what happens. Yeah, it sucks. Cable card looked very promising. Cable card was super fun. I was super into like media center PCs. Like we had one up until we couldn't anymore because there were no longer any unencrypted broadcasts at my parents' place. Yeah, it sucked. Yeah, the cable card was sweet.

Not cool. That was a very fun era to be into PCs. Yeah, for sure. There was just so many options. Yeah, it was awesome. My first real GPU, like gaming GPU, was an All in Wonder 9600 Pro. I paid extra for the all-in-wonder so that i could like capture video i didn't end up using it that much but man that remote was sick

i got this is totally aggressively off topic i don't know why i just thought about this but i i was reminded fairly recently about a funny story of a tech goof back in the day. I was a young lad, and I was going to a girl's house that I was interested in, and I wanted to bring along my, I don't remember which game it was, but I had a disc, a CD for a Star Wars video game, and I liked one of the music CD for a Star Wars video game. And I liked one of the music tracks for the Star Wars video game. So I said I would bring it along.

Because I just assumed, well, like the music track is on the disc. So I can just put it in something that can play music and it'll just play, right? Like that makes sense. Yeah. The file's on there. It'll just work. So we get there and i put it in her like dad's home theater setup it's a video game i see it doesn't play and i'm like oh it should definitely work the files on there i know what i'm talking about and the dad's just like um

very politely like you're an idiot stop okay yeah I was like, okay. Yeah, you were dumb. You didn't impress that dad. No. That was funny, though. People are saying it's Videoland. Videoland is apparently what's there now or recently, but I don't think it was called that. This signage looks pretty new.

Yeah, I don't think that was it. I think it used to be called something else. You guys oh it's jujitsu something now oh that's interesting depending on wow whoever drove through this is kind of cool whoever drove through recently whichever google street view car went through only did the main road they whoop yeah see that didn't do the parking lot whoa interesting that's interesting yeah that's pretty cool someone said apparently some game disc could do that that's interesting because i wonder if young me was right and his setup wasn't compatible or something i don't know that is the right address though that is the right address, though. That is the right address. Willow Video, probably not. Willow Video did have multiple locations. Did they?

Yeah, and they weren't all in Willow. Oh, I don't know. I just don't remember. I mean, maybe it was Videoland. I don't know. All right, back to topics. Yes. Hit me.

I had to scroll way up. we've done some stuff today um oh here's one microsoft launches new ai enabled bing and teams i didn't see the teams one coming actually microsoft launched a new chat gpt enabled version of Bing today and then immediately took it down several users report finding the Bing interface suddenly changed earlier today with a message introducing visitors to the new Bing before it was taken down users determined that the new Bing can apparently respond to questions in a conversational manner and cite its sources though a disclaimer warrants that mistakes and inaccuracies are possible. Wow, that's pretty cool.

Which is the way to do it, honestly. Microsoft also apparently intentionally released a new paid tier for a ChatGPT 3.5 enabled version of MS Teams. It includes automatic note-taking and intelligent recap features, as well as safeguards like automatic watermarking and labeling of sensitive content. Meanwhile, Google has invested in an AI startup headed by former OpenAI researchers to the tune of $300 million. Will this increase competition in the search engine space? What will that competition look like? It'll absolutely increase competition in the search engine space, and I think that competition looks like it'll absolutely increase competition in the search engine space and i think that competition looks like uh 300 million dollars so far google is wow gotta be

freaking out um but i think uh microsoft is hopefully going to be wise enough to not halo infinite their their new bing search and release it wildly before it's ready um and yeah i i suspect that was a natural mistake the microsoft teams thing is very intriguing yeah i didn't see that part coming uh i haven't checked it yet but i'm wondering if it's on top of already having like a business plan for teams. Like, I wonder if you have to pay even more. I believe it can actually do even more than what we noted here as well. I think it can help with like setting up meetings and like, I know it can track notes and stuff, but I believe it helps with like coordination of meeting planning, like picking a time and stuff like that.

I'm not certain. I just, I skimmed an article earlier today. That's super cool. But it'll be interesting. I don't know. It's interesting. AI creates 3D videos and... Oh, hold on.

Apparently it was Videoland. I just really, really, really can't remember the name uh it was run by someone named michelle for 30 years i was gonna say you're a little focused on somebody else i think what's that the teller uh a little more focused on her than the name of the no that's the name i gave before i know that's my that my point. You're more focused on the lady than the store itself. Oh, I should have known the name of the store because that was where, even when she wasn't working the counter anymore,

at least, I don't know, maybe it was her. Maybe it was someone else named Michelle. I actually don't know because clearly I don't even remember the name of it. But that was the place and apparently it was called Videoland forever. So there you go. As early as 1990, it was called Videoland forever. So there you go. As early as 1990, it was called Videoland.

Thank you, Haleyox in the floatplane chat. This is from the Delta Optimist in 1990. Hot rental. A must, USA Today. What is this? What is this? hot rental properties wait this is places you could go to so wait this was how so touch touchstone is promoting wow the the movie and saying here's all the places you can go rent it what what was video fantasies that sounds like they probably sold a wide range

of uh potential videos for a wide range of ages they sure probably widely did okay cool what were we talking about again uh anything we can go to any other topic uh yeah i don't know i think this one's kind of boring ah but we have a new game to play and this comes courtesy of our WAN show writer this one is the game is apparently that I have to guess which Linus recording is actually me

and which one was generated by an AI oh you ready okay so hold on a second I don't know maybe I'm not gonna I'm not gonna look at the details of the topic so You ready? Okay. So, hold on a second. I don't know. Do I guess as well? I'm not going to look at the details of the topic. So, Dan, do you know anything about this? I have the cheat sheet of what is real and not.

Okay. So, we can look at everything that's in the doc? Apparently, yes. Yeah. If you just pull one up. I don't know if they have sound or not. I've never heard these or seen them. But if you pull one up, I'll unmute your laptop,

and then we can throw that out. Okay. On February 2nd, Reddit user prodbysytech posted a damning, never-before-heard recording of the WAN show, where we discussed our vocal support for big tech monopolies and our disdain for the everyday consumer. Screw them. I guess I should bring up the original Reddit post here and unmute my laptop, which is...

I have to do that. Yeah. Okay. I mean, you don't have to go to the page. Let's... Okay. You ready, Luke? I think that's it.

If you can make it so I can hear it too, that would be great. I think you should both be able to hear it. We'll double check. Okay. In the news this week... Do we have sound? I can't hear anything. Okay.

One moment. Unmute the thing. Can I click it again? Yeah, try. In the news this week, Samsung. We're supposed to be able to hear that. Nothing for me. Oh, it's here.

Oh, there we go. There we go. Okay, let's try one more time. All right, one more time. In the news this week, Samsung. Samsung has been caught abusing patent law in an attempt to cripple smaller competitors' ability to repair mobile devices. This all sounds fake.

There's a hot take ahead. Viewer be warned. I don't think there's anything morally or legally wrong with what Samsung is doing here. It's Samsung's patent. Let them enforce it. That shouldn't be a hot take. I think that Samsung is well within their right. Yeah.

And if people want to complain, go make your own technology. It's not Samsung's fault that there's no competition in the market. It's just capitalism. Figure it out. I want to see these big companies, these big manufacturers, take on the smallest possible entities so they can form these huge monopolistic Goliaths that can strip the average American of every last penny. No, but I agree. This makes me so mad because for some reason people just have the worst takes on this. I get so mad hearing this. It's literal garbage.

I saw this tweet this week and this actual moron said and i quote tech companies own way too much they need to be regulated when i read this i almost i almost deleted twitter i wanted to reply and tell this guy uh actually no they should own more yeah yeah elon musk should probably own his own chunk of the U.S. government at this rate. It's not like they're doing a good job without him. Okay. I don't know if it's just because it's me. I suspect other people might maybe hear it, but that didn't sound like us at all, in my opinion. Okay.

There was some breaths and non-word based reactions that my version had that I actually think were quite good. They sounded like exact copies. Okay. But it sounded like each of them had like

a strong, like Midwestern American accent. Okay. That was clearly not us. So the clip is fake, obviously. It's a joke conversation

created using Eleven Labs voice synthesization AI. According to the original poster, it was trained using just 30 second samples of each voice. Now considering that, it's pretty close. And it took about an hour to create. Similar AI voice synthesizers like Microsoft's recently released Val-E can apparently use samples as short as three seconds to create passable imitations. Our writer's note here is that while the text was clearly pre-written,

the ums and stutters are apparently randomly generated, which is pretty cool. So was that completely fake, or were there bits and pieces of things we'd actually said in there? Do you know, Mr. Cheat Sheet? No, I think the cheat sheet is later for the guessing game. Oh, I thought that was it. So there you are. No, that one was fake and that's in the thing. These are the ones that you have to pick.

Okay, here we go. So that was an example. Okay, so I should play Fear? Yep, let's make sure this is unmuted. We can look at your face, we don't have to see the laptop. Okay. I think this should work. Hopefully it's not going to be too loud. That one was pretty quiet. Fear.mp3.

Play it. One of the best pieces of parenting advice I ever got was you gotta hit them while they're young. They fear you, but they don't remember why. Alright. Okay, so wait. Who is supposed to guess?

I have absolutely no idea. Okay, it sounded like you were like chewing on something or you had a mask on. Okay, I don't think we should be allowed to look at chat i think we're gonna have to okay i think i instinctively did that so i'm gonna have to hide my screen yeah i'm putting away chat i remember clearly saying that so yes um i actually have pretty excellent recall for things that I have said. Obviously, you know, not remembering the name of the video store that I rented things from when I was a child did not probably give you guys a lot of confidence in my memory. But things that I have written, things that I have read,

things I've said, and things I've heard, I'm usually pretty good at at least going, that rings a bell. That one, one for sure that wasn't even that long ago I know for a fact that I said that but what I don't know is if these are real quotes that are simply either run

through a synthesizer or not I'm gonna say was synthesized Luke do you have a take? Just for funsies or not. I'm going to say was synthesized. Luke, do you have a take? Just for funsies, I'll say it wasn't, but he's like wearing a mask or something like that. Because it definitely sounded muffled. So you're both saying it wasn't?

I'm saying it was synthesized, but it was definitely, because or it's like a poor quality recording, but I definitely said that. Yeah. I would also say that he definitely said that okay so i don't know do i give them to you one by one yeah yeah yeah sure one so that was real yeah it was that was not fake oh so it just that was what that's what you sound like to everybody around you all the time was he do you know was he like wearing a mask or something i have absolutely

no idea that i just have a piece of paper. There's a reveal here. One of the best pieces of parenting advice I ever got was you got to hit them while they're young. Okay. That way they fear you, but they don't remember why. Okay. Yeah. Hold on a second.

This. All right. All right. All right. Good. Yeah. You got the mask. Okay. All right. All right. All right. Good. Yeah. You caught the mask. Okay.

All right. I'm still giving myself half a point for that because I knew there was something wrong with it, but you nailed the mask. That's Luke's ahead for sure. So one zip. Let's go. You ready for the next one? This one's called competitive. It's spelled wrong.

I'm sure that's for a reason because the W land writer doesn't actually spell things wrong very often. This device I would never buy is competitive with another device I would never buy. Wrong. Fake news. Generated. Incorrect. False.

This device I would never buy is competitive with another device I would never buy. This audio clip i would never vote for okay i think fake it's fake final answer yes it is fake yeah it is a quote from linus however okay that's what was see that's what you don't hear me off a little bit so here's the thing i don't hear myself and i don't watch my videos. So I don't actually listen to my own voice pretty much at all.

Yeah, but that one has an accent. I mean, but I remember saying that, so it made me question it. Because I definitely said that. I think that probably helps because I don't watch your videos much. Sapphire panels. Let's go. Using a massive panel of pure sapphire for the front of a phone

would be a little bit stupid fake I'm just gonna let Luke play the game I give up it's fake you give up after two it's fake I give up after two Luke's gonna play the game hit us you have to do it no tell me if It's fake. I give up after two. Luke's going to play the game. Hit us.

You have to do it. No, tell me if it's fake. Oh, yeah, that was fake. Okay, all right. Go back and watch. Hit us. You have to do it is amazing. That's going to be in a future one of these.

Okay, ready? Now go listen to the last 20 seconds or so of this video and think of penises this time. You're welcome. Real. that's definitely real correct I have said some really outlandish things we have some very good video editors yeah well know that I just said that that was not edited that hopefully that's the thing I said okay because I was talking about a Full HD product of some sort, and I kept referring to its, like, describing its image quality or, like, talking about it as, like, 1080p-ness. And then at the end of the video, I'm like, okay, now go back

and pretend I said 1080p-ness every time. That was the context for that. Okay, lazy.mp3. pretend I said 1080 penis every time. That was the context for that. Okay. Lazy.mp3. Sometimes the obvious product is the right one. Fake. Other times it's the lazy one. That's definitely a thing I said.

That's a quote from a recent video, but I think Luke's right. It's fake. Okay. It's too easy. So basically what you're saying is we can do this pretty well. Daddy.mp3. They make it harder. Oh, my.

Daddy's going on a dangerous mission to shoot his employees. Hold on. Daddy's going on a dangerous mission to shoot his employees. Okay. I don't remember ever saying that. Unless you mixed your voice profile with Ben Shapiro, that's not you. I don't remember ever saying that, so I'm going to say fake. That was number seven?

Yeah. Red screen? That was seven. No, that was Daddy. Apparently, that is a quote from Linus. What? But it was fake. It's fake.

I said that? I don't know what you said. Apparently. When the hell did I say that? Daddy's going on a mission to shoot his employees? You probably had like some prop gun or something you're just messing around with. Or like shooting with a camera. Yeah, I don't remember that.

Or that. Yeah, yeah. Well, I've never had a computer red screen before. Fake. There you go. Very good. Okay, I think I'm getting better at this. Eight.

Comments. Oh, no. You know, I should really be sitting on the can, because that's usually where I read comments. They all sound a little processed, though. They do a little bit. I think it's, like, potentially, like, not very great recordings, but that one's real.

Okay. That one had some echo in it. And, yes, you're right. It is real. Finally, sorry. Sorry for being late on the Juan show this week, guys. Okay, well, that's fake. I would never call it the Juan show.

And I don't think you'd really apologize for being late either. Luke, I need Luke's answer. It's fake. Yes, it's fake. Good job. 10 for 10. Everybody except Linus on the first one.

Okay, so here's the thing, though. Not that long ago, when we did that video where James hosted it and it was a deep fake, right? I don't know that the voice model that we had that time was really much better than some of these. And here's the thing. was really much better than some of these and here's the thing that was only able to be created with my explicit consent there was like a whole process they took an enormous data set and like it took a long time to to crunch it now this is being done with what 30 seconds of audio that's wild and i don't like that like you know if if if this clip

like the original source that that got us to kind of do this right yeah that reddit thread if if one of those clipped if one of those clips was put next to uh like a title that's claimed that you were saying those things and didn't say that it was AI you might trick some people yeah you might trick some people that are less familiar with the voice and like yeah I I'm assuming I wasn't looking at chat obviously I'm assuming floatplane chat probably answered pretty accurately while we were going probably but that's also full plane subscribers right that's people that are watching the show live yeah guys it's not scary where they are right now it's scary how fast they're improving oh yeah and

how um easy it is for you to just generate a voice model of someone without their consent so i don't know there's been there's been a lot of discussion lately about using AI to make people say or do things without their consent. And I think it's pretty safe to say at this point that while obviously that Reddit thread was clearly labeled and created in jest, in general, I think we all need to kind of figure out where the lines are here real fast and

what's what's cool and what's a joke and what's really super not and what's what's harmful and i think we are overall not doing a great job of it right now yes there's significantly too much of this stuff all i have to say about that yeah let's do a couple uh merch messages and then there's a couple other ones here that i want to get to oh no let's talk about twitter cracking down on um just being smart i guess uh on wednesday twitter announced that they will be charging for API access as of next week, eliminating the current free tier of API access that allows for up to 250 requests per month. One reason appears to be to eliminate bad bots, but popular entertainment and news aggregator bots will be similarly affected. So free services like at-nin-status-bot, which tracks Nintendo server

outages, and at-earthquake-bot, which tracks global earthquakes over 5.0 on the Richter scale, probably can't afford to pay $149 a month to continue operation. The fees for API access are ridiculous. Like, actually outlandish. Another reason appears to be to force researchers to pay to access what the announcement called one of the world's most powerful datasets.

It's also one of the world's muddiest, most garbage-ridden datasets. It's definitely one of those. That's a whole can of worms, I guess. I mean, if you're going to try to back out of the purchase based on how junk the data set is and full of bots it is, and then you're going to turn around and call it one of the world's most powerful data sets.

I mean, I guess the contradiction doesn't matter to some people, but today Elon Musk, CEO of Twitter, tweeted from his personal account that Twitter will begin sharing profits with creators for the ads that appear below their tweets.

I should ask about the ads that appear right before their tweets. For those of you who are just tuning in now, we're referring to a controversy where YouTube is not paying Shorts creators for ads that show up before the user has watched a Short, but while they are in the short's feed,

which is, okay. So long as they have a paid subscription to Twitter Blue. So you actually have to pay. You have to pay to make money. You don't know how much money you're going to make. Eligible for ad sharing. Okay, no. So there's that. so that's cool uh in a response to a comment musk likewise announced

that twitter's legacy blue verified checks will sunset in a few months yeah that went really well last time that really good. There were no problems with impersonation last time. Yeah. Cool. So I don't know if he realizes this yet. Maybe he made a video. I haven't watched it, but I have read some of the comments. I don't know if he realizes this yet,

but the problem last time was making check marks available to anyone who would pay. And so there was a ton of impersonation. And the problem this time will be a bunch of legitimate accounts not being verified, which opens the doors wide open to impersonation, right? Like, you get it, right? These are the same thing, just two different ways. We had a problem before Musk bought Twitter, where a ton of legitimate accounts that needed verification couldn't get it.

And now we're going to have a problem where no accounts have verification. Nice. Cool. The overwhelming majority of current legacy blue verified accounts are celebrities, journalists, government officials, and departments, and brands. People that could use verification. Yeah, this is a problem. Well, then I guess they can afford to pay for it, Luke. Not always, but probably true.

It's the town square! Everyone should have an equal voice, just some more equal than others. Why do we still talk about Twitter news, man? I don't know. It's like, how can you look away? It's just... You got it.

It's a dumpster fire. There's so many people that are like, Musk is the bad man, and then promote him as much as they possibly can. I feel like we're doing the same thing. I don't even know about bad. I think it's just like... Musk is the entertaining thing.

Look, mom, clown. All right, fair enough like it's it's it it is honestly comical it it raises so many questions for me how can someone who has managed to whether it's deserved or not managed to get so much of the credit for the accomplishments of the companies that he has led, I guess, up until now, makes such terrible, short-sighted decisions. To put on my wheel of whatever it's called, hat. Go ahead. Defend the indefensible. He should be able to make changes to the thing that he bought that was categorically a failure. Sure.

In like every measure of the way. Oh, yeah. I was losing money. Didn't they make money like one quarter ever or something like that i don't even know if they did that maybe they did i don't know i genuinely don't know if that's true or not what i do know is they were losing insane amounts of money just year over year just bleeding out like crazy so he has to find some way to try to make it make money and that's going to be really hard for twitter i'm pretty sure i've said on land show

a bunch of times in the past that i don't really understand how twitter would um make a lot of money uh he scared all the advertisers away yeah that wasn't a good plan so now he's gonna find a different solution and maybe those bot guys will pay for it or something i don't know um i think this is a bad move i what i i do think that the statement just just like a lot of things that have happened with twitter i think the original statement is is correct to a lot of degrees like there probably is a lot of bots that are using the api that are bad for sure probably true probably true i don't think you necessarily fix it this way no i don't think this is the solution at all yeah the solution to a bunch of the definitely real problems

that have been pushed out are questionable and some of them been been pushed out and then pulled back and like they've been acting very quickly they've been quite agile in their way of doing things which some people will say is good and some people say is bad um i just my stance has been the same this whole time which is it was a dumpster fire before like we can't forget how trash it was which i think a lot of people do i think they look back at old twitter with rose tinted glasses yeah it was crap it was crap and now it's crap now crap in like seven different Yeah, it was crap. It was crap. It was crap then. It's crap now. Crap in like seven different ways. Yeah, it's burning crap.

Yeah, sure. There we go. That's pretty good. Yes, they have had a profitable year. In 2019, Twitter was profitable. Cool. That was a while ago. It's been a minute.

Yeah. Yeah, so I don't know. I think it would have been kind of neat if you could like apply to be like a bot of good faith because there are honestly straight up and i actually find it really annoying if i am actually using twitter and i see this happen where you get like every single reply to a tweet is like at save thread or whatever they just like it's just hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of tweets just calling bots in to like save threads or save videos or do whatever else oh i haven't really seen that build this functionality or like something like so there's there's functionality solving bots right that they're very likely going

to block out right yeah for sure yeah jayden's saying why not bot verified yeah exactly so like i feel like the old verification system where you like apply for it and then you get it or not might actually make sense for bots but then they didn't do that they just yeah you'd have to have people who work on something that doesn't generate revenue yeah which is clearly not the plan happening at twitter 2.0 which is hardcore might make sense to certain degrees because they're sitting on this teetering edge going like are we going to completely bankrupt ourselves yeah so like would would you as a leader of a ship that is potentially a month or two away from bankruptcy want to commit anything to something that isn't going to make money pretty unlikely i don't know situations whack speaking of whack netflix will

probably maybe definitely possibly kick you off of your mom's account netflix has posted a set of new user guidelines netflix claims the post was an accident and the guidelines were intended only for a few countries in Latin America where it has been testing paid account sharing since last year. But, I mean, by accident usually just means by accident early.

You don't accidentally publish a page outlining new policy. Or like you don't accidentally create a page outlining new policy or like you don't actually accidentally create it in the first place and if it was for countries in latin america like um does it make sense that it was in english am i am i overlooking something here it feels very like wizards of the coasty yeah where they had that whole thing for dungeons and dragons and they're like oh i mean it's not out yet it's like yeah come. Especially because the plan to crack down on password sharing is corroborated by a letter to Netflix shareholders stating that paid sharing would be rolled out more broadly in March.

The guidelines state that all devices will be required to log in to their home Wi-Fi network at least once every 31 days to ensure that the account is not being shared outside of the household which raises all kinds of questions why are they tracking which wi-fi networks you're logging into is that your question not even that so my my question mr teacher is what about a lot of places in the world where they don't have wi-fi and they run off cellular signals at home well that would still oh i see yeah yeah yeah what about that that's like not uncommon yeah it's uncommon where we're from yeah but in like taiwan and stuff super common yeah yeah yeah this is totally a thing there's places around the world that have extremely good cellular infrastructure cheap data to the point where like why would you even get

home internet you have basically unlimited data and it's really cheap oh balls all right well anyway it's like how the heck does that supposed to work while traveling users may request a temporary code that will give them access to the account for seven consecutive days but otherwise logging into the account away from home may result in it being locked netflix estimates that at least 100 million households engage in password sharing based on the latin american trials they expect to see a wave of cancellations apparently apparently they uh they're going to use location id for mobile okay or location services for mobile sorry followed. Or location services for mobile, sorry.

Followed by a rise in revenue as account borrowers open their accounts and users expand to paid tiers with more flexible sharing options. I don't know, man. I feel like, I don't know how much Netflix costs in Latin America, but I feel like at the rates Netflix is trying to charge in the US and Canada, they may not see the same result. Apparently they may have retracted this. People are sharing links to us right now. Netflix has retracted password sharing restrictions. Well, yeah, but we're not saying they didn't. We said that right away. Netflix claims the post was an accident yeah what are you guys talking about we're just telling you guys that there was the the letter to shareholders saying that paid sharing would be rolled out more broadly come march they've

been threatening cracking down on password sharing for a super long time just because this leaked early doesn't mean they're not doing it yeah i so yeah yeah um i don't know i don't know what to tell you this is one of those things where the i mean it's not like the license agreement has changed it was never intended to be shared outside of a household it was intended to be like the way i understood it is it was kind of like the cable subscriptions like at your house like just like when they were mailing dvds yeah it's not intended for you to take the dvd with you on vacation for a month actually i think you could keep things as long as you wanted you just had to send them back when you got the new ones okay so then fine that is not a great comparison but my my understanding of it was that it was kind of like your cable tv like it's like

at your address and obviously you can invite friends over to watch it with you or whatever and you can all use it there at your address but it was like per family was my understanding and so this is basically them just enforcing something that was always the rules but the problem with it is almost that they let it go for so long that it's become normalcy yeah that's expected so now that they've now that they haven't been fighting this battle for so long like as long as well they promoted it too like i know people have memed on this a lot i'm not the first person to point this out but there's a tweet from forever ago from netflix um that says love is sharing a password.

Like they have engaged and promoted with this type of activity. That muddies the waters a lot. Oh, yeah, it sure does. A lot. Like it's weird. I don't know. Like I can totally understand the idea of like, wow, there's a lot of people freeloading off the service. At least we make it so that only a certain amount of screens can be active at a time that limits the amount of freeloading

on the service yada yada yada um it might even be a promotion vehicle i've wondered about that in the past like if you're if you're leeching off of someone's netflix uh but they keep kicking you off whenever they want to watch it you might be like well, well, okay, I should just get my own account. I guess I'll just get my own account at some point. Yeah, for sure. But now you're just going to pirate or privateer. We are,

we are headed into, I think the next, the next big piracy age. Oh yeah. I mean, people, it totally feels like it. People demonstrated that,

no, they were not willing to pay for packages full of content that they don't care about. They, they showed that they were really only interested in a la carte and a reasonable monthly subscription. And now we have subscriptions up the butt just being thrown at us from every direction. I mean, okay, you recently got a mattress with a subscription yeah not a mattress but yeah well basically i don't know what how would you describe it it's like a cover thing right so like it's stupid what i hate it not not the thing are you paying it uh i think i think it comes with a free trial one yeah that thing i think that think that thing. Are you going to pay for it?

I don't think so. It might be good for some people. My problem is I just put it on the lowest possible temperature. That's great. Okay. He's got one of those cooled. I have a cooling thing. Mattresses.

I am a warm boy. He is a warm boy. And my partner is a cold lady. Frigid. We'll be in the... I mean, I was all like, hey, and she was like... I will be there with a sheet just over my midsection, just sweating buckets. She's in the same room with me, three blankets on, shivering. And like I'm not exaggerating. This has actually happened.

So we needed something. And it was like way too much money. But I've been having an extremely hard time sleeping for a long time because of that. Because I literally just sweat constantly. And to be able to sleep properly, your temperature is supposed to drop a little bit. And that just was never happening for me and all this kind of stuff yeah so yeah i i got one um and i put it on the minimum possible temperature and it doesn't solve the problem completely because i'm still a really warm boy yeah but it helps noticeably it like it actually helps quite noticeably so worth it i guess even though

it was a lot and i am a cheap person raging azaru asks why are so many women cold all the time it's because physiologically they are different and they're colder i um i was reading an interesting and all this other kind of stuff yeah i was reading an interesting article about the perceived warmth for men and women in general. And it was something like our room temperatures are like multiple degrees different. I think it's like three or four degrees off. Like it's enormous. It's not a small amount.

And in a generally um male run world the temperatures that we generally accept as comfortable and within reason um are not actually comfortable for women now i didn't know this for a super long time me neither yeah yeah i only came across this like a few months ago. And in general, I kind of still stand behind that you can put on a sweater, but I cannot strip down to nothing. Why not? Because sometimes even like, okay, for me and Yvonne, it's the same thing. She's a chilly lady. And I'm not like you quite, but i'm a pretty warm running boy as well and so i could

be completely naked and she could be wearing a sweater and both of us would be at a similar level of comfortable but like opposite ends yeah exactly and so it's it's one of those things where it's like it's a lot easier for you to put on a sweater and be comfortable than for me to be sweating buckets and be uncomfortable for different reasons. And my girlfriend was a trooper, man. Like, she tried. She would go to sleep wearing, like, sweats and have two blankets and, like, all this other kind of stuff because she was trying to make it so that I wasn't suffering. But I was still suffering. And I felt bad because she's doing that and just just so the only time i

get really upset though is when an ad by the way i just like bought it it is is when a lady in your life complains about the smell when they won't turn down the heat so that cross-country trip i did with my mom the amount of complaining there was about how much i stank was like mother what am i supposed to do what on earth am i supposed to do literally sweating a bucket i am i i am literally sweating through my clothes and you won't turn off the heater. And every time I try to crack the window, you tell me to close it. And I'm like, well, there's nothing I can do about that. For people that think I'm exaggerating,

I was losing four pounds of sweat a night. That's wild. That sounds impossible. I'm sure there might be some issues with my measurement. The way that I would do it is I would weigh myself immediately before bed. And then before going to the washroom, I'd weigh myself immediately in the morning. I'm sure there's some issues there, some other things going on.

But I was dropping four pounds every night consistently every time. So I was like, something has to change. Something. I'm like begging for more fans or the ac to be on or something but then i also know that my girlfriend is like suffering because she's freezing and i'm like that's also not okay so like yeah i don't know people uh people are asking when is whole human water cooling coming we already did that video the water cooled gaming chair it's awesome it's basically the same concept as a cooled mattress you would breathe out one pound yeah see like i don't know there's there's things going on that i don't understand just that's why i explained the method so my incorrectness could be figured out. I mean, I don't even know what a pound is.

How does that relate to a kilogram? I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Being Canadian, we have to be well-versed in both metric and imperial measures. So it's 2.2 pounds to a kilo, which I have to know. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, oh, oh, crap.

LTX 2023 ticket site walkthrough we need to do this um i have to log into the store yeah don't do that while sharing your screen uh okay uh okay what do i do uh just do it before sharing your screen well and then show the site thanks smart guy you got it why you gotta be like that i believe in you you asked what you have to do. Why are you like this? Okay, do you want to do a thing real quick while I do this? Sure. I don't think it's going to take you very long.

It could. I mean, I managed to completely screw up everything last week. I can be pretty dumb sometimes. You underestimate my abilities. Okay, now I'm ready. Dennis requests that you talk about the video premiering tomorrow where he replaces Linus' assistant. Source, Dennis.

It's already on Flowplane, by the way. One thing I'd like to clarify is that we uh we have a shared executive assistant but yes they're they're mostly to help me um i still like kind of have no idea how to effectively use an assistant why is giving me reins over on anything is like a very big challenge. Why are you going to be like that? Why are you going to be like that? Just being honest, man. Well, it's just,

it's one of those things where like, I don't blame you. I'm just, it's just a thing. We're in the middle of a shoot, right? Let's say we're in the middle of a shoot and we need a cable. So what? I should get my assistant to go get it?

Why don't I just go get it? It's not like I can shoot until I have the cable. What difference does it make? Is there anything my assistant to go get it? Why don't I just go get it? It's not like I can shoot until I have the cable. What difference does it make? Is there anything else you do in the meantime? I don't know. Could you answer an email? Maybe.

Probably. Unless I don't. Unless I just don't want to anyway and I could use the break. Well, if you could use the break, then that has value too. I don't know, man. It's tough. It's tough. Anyway, the point is that here I'll just

bring it up on floatplane here oh hey there's an exclusive of Dennis says Dennis's makeover here transforming into Vance so here's the video Dennis replaced our executive assistant for a day and and i'm not going to spoil anything but that happened uh yep charming so you guys can check that out on floatplane obviously we've got lots of other lots of other behind the scenes and exclusives and stuff like that anything with the little gold floatplane here uh here's how tynan sawed a monitor in half for the intro of a video. That's been really well received. Here's a what's in your PC going around and asking everyone in the office

what they're running. We're trying to do lots of really cool exclusive content. This is worth watching. Meet the team with Kyle. He kind of talks through a lot of the development that we've gone through for the screwdriver and stuff like that. It's about half an hour long. If you're ever looking for extras,

that's a good place to get them. And if you're ever looking for tickets for LTX, let's go. That transition, the purpose of showing this to you guys right now is so that when tickets go live at 9. A.M. On Monday.

Okay. So that's in Saturdays and it's three days, 9. A.m. on Monday. Okay? So that's in three days, 9 a.m. Pacific time. You won't have to kind of freak out and go like, oh, where do I get this? And where do I get that? And oh, I missed something that I wanted

because I was in a hurry to check out. So I'm trying to show you guys what everything is going to look like. For tickets for LTX, you can get Saturday Expo, Sunday Expo, those are one day, you can get two day Expo tickets. So you can come both days, you can get BYOC plus two day Expo, we have no way to attend the Whaleland BYOC gaming event without buying a two-day Expo Pass. And the reason for that is that we have no way of keeping BYOC people separate. There's the Dolphin VIP package, which is essentially LTX Expo VIP. So two-day Dolphin badge that provides Expo access, reserved main stage seating.

You can skip some lines with an express line punch card vip meet and greet session um and you'll have a dolphin vip merch pack no no that's oh yeah yes right yes dolphin vip merch pack yes okay then there's the orca vip package this is essentially a Whale Land VIP spot. So you get two-day Orca badge, 48-inch by 30-inch VIP BYOC table section, reserved front row main stage seating, skips and lines with express line punch card, and you get a Whale Land merch pack. There it is. Sweet.

There's going to be some new desk pads. You will pick of your choice so we'll have to figure that out i guess when you're checking out okay and then finally there's the whale vip package yes that is not a typo it is 10 000 us dollars you want to know what's even crazier we already sold two we told the we told the whale attendees at Whale Land 1 that we would give them first crack at whale tickets for LTX. Does this one include a computer? Yep. They got a computer from the last...

I know, two of them. Two of them are back at the whale tier. I mean, that's the whole point, right? Yeah. I mean, if you're going to whale, you don't just whale once. All right. A harpoon would be a good one. Oh, man.

I mean, is it bad that we own this whole thing so hard, the whaleness? I can't tell. I don't know. I'm not sure. Anyway, it includes a unique whale badge take it all with the whale seating section for the main stage skip some lines with express cut blah blah etc you get to hang out with the ltd staff during the whale vip meet and greet session ltd office and labs tour plus transportation and lunch a serious haul of merch with the whale vip

merch pack a luxury hotel room friday to sunday concierge service that's spelled wrong dang it Sirius Hall of Merch with the Whale VIP Merch Pack, Luxury Hotel Room, Friday to Sunday, Concierge Service, that's spelled wrong, dang it, guys, to provide you with food, beverages, and more during the Expo, and a $5,000 PC. You get to, so you will use and keep the PC after the LAN, you'll get a gaming chair and peripherals to use during the LAN, food and beverage station, and you get a plus one badge that includes two-day access to the Expo,

chilling with the whales in the Whale Land Zone that includes two day access to the expo, chilling with the whales in the Whaleland zone, sitting with the whales in the main stage and joining in the meet and greet and office and lab tour. Now, if you are not interested in the whale VIP package, which understandably you might not be because it's $10,000. There's also add-ons for the LTX 2023 merch pack, which, yes, tie-dye. Whoa. Boom.

It's actually kind of sick. Sticker passport. This is an enamel pin. Okay. As with any tie-dye, by the way, guys, remember, remember, remember, it'll look a little different from one to the next. Okay. There's also an office tour.

So you can get an office tour. You can get a labs tour and then there's the whale land merch pack which is only available for whale land attendees so you'll have to make sure that you have uh some kind of yes byoc whale land in your cart and then you can get the whale land merch pack now i'm a little confused where did our uh i thought there were hoodies um um okay well we'll have to figure that out. Anyway, this is what the site's going to look like. Is that in the merch pack?

Oh, that'd be pretty cheap. There's a film release here, by the way, blah, blah, while you're attending, et cetera, no different than any other expo. We're a YouTube channel. Yeah, yeah, believe it or not. And I think that's pretty much it for now. Yeah, I just wanted to kind of show you guys

what it's going to look like so that it's not confusing at the time. 9 a.m. Pacific, Monday, yep, February 6th. You will need to create a customer account in order to start the checkout process in the store. You can make the account now to be ready. So that's

tickets.ltxexpo.com I guess. I guess it should be linked down below at some point. Dan, thanks. Ticket prices are USD only. Items cannot be held. They go to whoever completes payment processing the fastest. If you're looking for specific questions

or answers to your questions, the FAQ has been seriously updated. So there's a lot of good information in there. Cool. All right. Should we do some merch messages? Yeah. Wait, were there any big topics that we didn't get to yet?

I don't think so. Oh, I mean, AMD and NVIDIA have been undershipping chips to keep prices higher, so that's cool. I'm so surprised they would do this. Remember how many times we've said that AMD is not your friend any more than Nvidia or Intel are and like whatever their image is of being like super cool and your

bro is complete nonsense I won't say it because I want people to watch the video but for the AMD challenge that we're currently doing my GPU is installed in a way that I have never even thought about installing a GPU before.

Good work. And it came to me after like a lot of contemplation, but it works technically. So AMD has been shipping below production capacity for at least half a year to maintain prices despite lower demand. They plan to do the same, though less so, for the first quarter of this year. Nvidia told its own investors that they were undershipping back in November. They then released the RTX 4080 and 4070 Ti at an

inflated price point while the market for GPUs was tanking. Lol, got him. Buttholes. That's about it. Yeah. Intel Arc gets better drivers and a price drop. Let's go. Yeah, this is pretty cool. The A750 got a price drop. Let's go. Yeah, this is pretty cool.

The A750 got a price drop. It's now down to, I believe, $250. Whoa. Which is like, yeah, what a solid mid-tier GPU should cost. Yeah. Let's go. Nice. They also got a big bump in performance.

So is there a way for me to... Oh, yes, here we go. I'll just kind of share my screen. Driver update performance boosts for Intel have been nuts. Yep. So this is compared to original. This is not just one driver update. This is compared to original.

But there are some very substantial performance improvements here, and I love to see it. Going from 161 to 167 FPS, I don't know that I would have included that on the graphics. Same with 203 to 209 but hey there's some much bigger improvements in games like starcraft 2 um stalaris cs go league of legends other more different league of legends on here twice uh wait what yeah oh different resolutions? That makes sense. Cool. Yep. All right. Dan.

Uh-oh. Hit me with some merch messages. Oh, I got a lot to hit you with. You probably want to go through some of the potentials. Okay, this one's from Yoshi. I think I've heard of you before. Hi, Linus and Luke. I am a dental technician, a profession making teeth. Cool story, bro.

CAD slash CAM production has been slowly but surely taking over what used to be custom craftsmanship field. Is there a profession where you didn't expect tech would take over? I didn't expect AI was going to come for creative this quickly. Yeah. And I don't think most people did. Because the advice for a long time in the past was like, oh, you want like an AI resistant job? Try to get into creative.

Yeah. And then this year has all been like AI music, AI art, AI writing. Well, the predictions have been just kind of all over the place. Like I remember talking to you about this, but it was pretty obvious to anyone with a pretty good understanding of the processing power at the time that back when Tesla claimed that every car they were shipping today

would be capable of full self-driving with software updates, it was pretty clear that nothing existed that was going to be close. Like, it's obviously not going to happen. But there was still a lot of anxiety, I think, at the time about getting into, say, driving as a profession because the robots are coming for those jobs. But that is obviously so far out now. I think it's clear to everyone that the promises were nonsense.

And whether it's just general operation or whether it's going to be those little edge cases that they're hunting down, it's going to take many more years and a lot more hardware iterations before we actually get there. But then, yeah, on the flip side, I didn't think we were going to see a chatbot that could interact so naturally. I wouldn't have even tried to guess. I don't know. For ages, ages from now. I mean, Google can barely call the correct contact in my phone when I use my voice assistant. Like they're useless. If anything, we're regressing.

Like I just, I thought we were so far away and then boom, here it is. Wow. Yeah. just i thought we were so far away and then boom here it is wow yeah so it's a kind of a non-answer but i i don't know is there one you didn't expect tech would take over for me as as generally uh like a technophile i i kind of you know i'm like rooting for tech i'm like yeah i think things should be easier um yeah i'm sorry i can't really think of anything uh you know what i didn't think i didn't think tech would be able to take over for like cashiers and really as quickly i didn't think it would happen so fast i was pretty i was pretty impressed by the amazon go store back when i checked it out uh that's yeah that's a little more advanced than most yeah but but it is it exists yeah it exists and it works and it's now that one i did not expect to exist i think the like self-checkout stuff though is not

surprising to me yeah okay i got one here from quinton linus i've been interested in your videos regarding your personal monitor at home do Do you prefer the 42-inch or the 48-inch OLED monitors? I'm interested in buying an Asus ROG Swift 47-inch. Not sure where to go with the 42 or the 48. Did you just call it

ROG? Yeah. Whatever I can do to offend as many people as possible. The Asus trademark Republic of Gamers copyright. All right, all right, all right. I definitely prefer 42. There is no question

for me. Now, I mean, you can go back and forth on whether you want like a matte screen or a glossy screen or it's important to have a higher refresh rate or this is enough or like all the other specs completely aside, 48 is too big. I've switched to 42 both at work and at home, and I'm not going to go back to 48 inches.

It's just a little bit too big. Okay, next one here is from Austin. What is your most memorable interview, either as the interviewer or the interviewee? I've talked about this before, but I think bringing Chris Perillo and Tom Merritt on The WAN Show had to be by far the most eye-opening. They weren't really interviews. They were more like having people on as guests.

But they were super cool. I'm probably forgetting about some actual interviews I've done. I don't do a ton of them. We've never done a ton we've never been a huge fan of them yeah the the chris perillo wancho for me in particular was a bit eye-opening in regards to like how long the road ahead was if you know what i mean yeah and we're not that good yeah i was like whoa okay there's there's quite a ways to go uh for me though it'd be palmer lucky at pax east

in the like prime of oculus i was we just could not get anyone from oculus to respond to us at all if you remember that i do that was super super frustrating and then i got to like physically get in his face at the show and he was like oh hey i've seen your like reviews of our hardware and i was like that's cool why won't anyone respond to me and he was very surprised by that and he ended up getting like forcing someone to respond to me which was nice but like that was actually a pretty cool interview and luckily it got us an oculus contact um but temporarily until oculus didn't exist anymore they got exploded probably most of my best interviews have been or have were not interviews like like really really smart people i got to talk to like when i went down and did that uh collab

with smarter every day and i forget his last name telly or something like that. But Luke, the guy who worked on, different Luke, not you, who worked on the Saturn V, I was like, just super smart. The guy just like knew so much. And I didn't really make an interview video because I prefer to keep our own voice and our own energy on the channel. But I've definitely had the pleasure of talking to some incredibly smart people.

I mean, I can tell you guys now that like the Intel factory tour, Micron factory tour, stuff like that. I got to talk to people and hear things that will never see the light of day, but were awesome. And I'm sorry that they can't be light of day but were awesome and i'm sorry that they can't be an interview but they they just aren't some of the like ovh engineers and shadow virtualization techs that i was able to talk to and was like super not able to include what they were talking about in the video was pretty sick um but yeah there's some smart people out there creating the stuff that we use every day don't take it for granted yeah okay i've got one here from nicole hey linus and luke linus uh you

had mentioned before that back in the day you used to buy the latest gpu and then flip it before the next card would come out was there ever a card that you ever regretted selling and or buying no because remember back then in the mid 2000s like 2010s early 2010s it just got so much better all the time that there was just there was if there was one that i could regret even a little, it would have been the 8800 GTS SLI setup I had. Because when the 8800 GT came out, not that much longer, it was so cheap and so fast. Like it was priced like a GTS, but performed like a GTX, especially with a little bit of overclocking and water cooling

and that kind of stuff that I was into back in the day, that it kind of made me feel like, oh, this might not have been that great of a choice. But, I mean, I don't know. It was just part of the fun of it almost that you got to, yeah, you got to enjoy it while you had it. And as long as you moved fast before everyone figured out the new hotness, then it wasn't that bad. Yeah. Hello, wife. One moment.

Can I help you? It depends how many of these potential merch messages make their way into curated merch messages. I'm so sorry. You're more than welcome to just join us on the show but i don't know if we have a microphone for you or you can just go do we have two cars today oh so that one's not out of the shop oh because luke can't drive me today that's okay i'll uber home are you sure yeah yeah see you later sorry way to go, Luke.

All my fault. Basically. Yep. Okay. This one's from Patrick. Linus, a few WAN shows ago, you mentioned you would rather learn a musical instrument as opposed to a programming language.

Which musical instrument would you learn and why? I'm totally unimaginative, so I would just go for the violin. It's pretty bold. This one's from Jetman. Go straight for violin. Hardest. Hard mode.

Hard mode. Hard mode. Insane. I just like how it sounds. It's good. Jetman, finally picking up one of the items I've wanted for a long time, including this screwdriver and workshop jacket.

I'm about to start coaching my old high school's gymnastic team. I was wondering what sports have you done and what's been your biggest takeaways? I'll let Luke go and I will rest for a while. What sports have I done? That's genuinely a tough question because I sometimes forget some of them. I've done a lot of stuff, though. What the end of the what was what are my takeaways from playing sports yeah exactly um holy that's an extensive potential question uh one of the biggest ones for me is that i found

a lot of value from playing sports uh in in how it how you learn how to deal with people and work as a team and and be a unit um and and how you learn i don't think people that don't play sports necessarily actually get this lesson uh how you learn that it like kind of sucks to suck um and not just because you lose but because you might drag your team down. And why that putting in effort outside of like, Rod, Luke hit the crap out of me playing bubble soccer. Sorry, I do remember that actually. Sometimes I just, yeah, there's certain things,

my brother and I are the same way. There's certain things that'll just make us see red suddenly. We both played a lot of football. If you cross your feet, things are going down because people don't have very good balance when they cross your feet, so it's the perfect time to hit them. Anyways, but yeah, I don't know. It teaches you a lot about being on a team

and how to be a valuable member of being on a team. And that, I think, is the most valuable type of knowledge that I pulled from playing sports, I think. Is that like being bad doesn't just suck for you. And you need to try to improve if you can. And if you can't, try to find a different way to utilize yourself on said team or whatever it is. I was never successful in a team sport, believe it or not.

I'm not a particularly gifted athlete and I'm not big, which is... A lot of Western sports... Not great. ...benefit like being big. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Other than maybe jockeying. But you're good at badminton.

I'm pretty good at badminton. Yep. other than maybe jockeying. Good at badminton. I'm pretty good at badminton. Yep. And I was like pretty good at, you know,

whatever, like essentially like kind of taekwondo is what I did when I was in high school. What sports did you try? I mean, I played on a baseball team when I was like a kid, kid. I don't see baseball being your sport. No,

it really wasn't. I could not focus there. There's a lot of standing around in baseball. That's not going to work. I sucked at soccer. Terrible. Terrible. That's actually surprising. Yeah, no, that was no good. Interesting. Yeah. I didn't play for long though. So maybe a part of it was that I was playing with kids that had been playing for a few years already. You might've also gotten a little bit distracted depending on your position yeah i didn't last um in soccer uh oh man i could see you being a very good hooker in rugby i was on swim team and let me know they tried to recruit

me for the rugby did you ever try actually i didn't like it it's cold and wet like no that's gonna be an issue for a lot of western sports you're just like out out in fields. Yeah, no, like in grade nine or something. Like I actually. I bet you would have actually been quite good at that. I had my opportunity to be one of the cool kids when like one of the like cool guys who was huge and was like on the rugby team and popular. Because we had to do a rugby unit in gym was like, oh, yeah, you'd actually be really good at this. And I was like, oh, yeah, you'd actually be really good at this. And I was like, dude, it's raining. Oh, come on, man.

It's like October. What's wrong with you? I'm going inside as soon as I possibly can. I was on swim team. Terrible. Terrible. You're not really built for that either. No, not really built for swimming.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what to tell you individual sports for me where i can't let anybody down but myself uh what was the team again was a volleyball team i think they said what team were they coaching the question i don't remember i don't have it on my screen gymnastics that's right gymnastics i'm not gonna be able to help you at all yep sorry i got nothing for you all right i got a fun one here from ryan if you were forced to rename the wan show what would you So I'm not going to be able to help you at all. Yep. Sorry, I got nothing for you.

I got a fun one here from Ryan. If you were forced to rename the WAN show, what would you call it? Oh, no. LAN show. LAN show. We got the WAN show earlier. Luke can line his bulls**t hour.

And then we'd have an asterisk, actually three hours. Oh, man. I mean, that's what it is now uh yeah we're just about over car carpool critics oh you're gonna make some enemies there let's go one show is a pretty good suggestion uh let's uh let's get this one from mary hi i just used my single shoelace in a costume it turned out great winning an award thanks for your consistent great quality luke and linus is there anything you have or would like to cosplay i don't have the patience to build like a good cosplay like i just man like the dedication and like i don't like doing anything

crappy i guess like if i'm i don't do much i do raising kids i do youtube i do badminton you do a lot what you do doesn't vary a lot sure yeah i do a lot of those things i go deep i don't go wide yeah and so i guess you know if i were to cosplay i would have to basically drop one of those other aspects of my life it takes a lot of time none of what you're happening skill involved yeah and time yeah even with all the skill in the world it still takes time and i don't i don't have it um yeah i don't know if i like if i had to pick something though like oh man i have no clue yeah i don't even i don't even know a lot of stuff that i'm thinking about is just so generic that it like yeah like i don't know lock from final fantasy 6 i don. Yeah, I don't know what to tell you.

I mean, that would basically be just putting on a bandana though, so I guess I could probably pull it off. Why don't you cosplay as each other? You're both well known enough. I think we already do. Do we ever do that? Do you do that? I think we do all the time. Well, yeah, we don't look that different, I mean... Do we? Yeah, we do our hair in a different direction. You're mirrors. Okay, so hold on. I should just mirror the WAN show set.

Cosplay. Cosplay. Hey, wow. I'm moving on. I'm moving on. This one's from Alex. Hey, Linus, question. What do you think about Microsoft's inability to compete against Apple on the laptop slash mini PCs on efficiency and power. They're the only other company that

compete vertically with OS, custom ARM chips, etc, but hasn't. I mean, they've tried. The problem is that what's good about the Windows ecosystem is backwards compatibility. And Apple, I think, really surprised everyone when Rosetta 2 it was good when it was actually usable being able to to run x86 legacy programs on their ARM processors was was mind-blowing I'm sure there's a team at Microsoft hard at work on that right now or maybe not I don't know like how much of their revenue is even Windows anymore I, if they manage to out-compete Google and search, maybe they just won't care. That was a rambly response, but that's kind of everything I have to say about it. Okay, this one here is from Joshua.

As a swimmer, I hear there are lots of fish in the sea, but all I see are many sea anemones. As partnered individuals, any dating advice for us computer nerds that don't live in mom's basement he's past the online dating era yeah like i haven't been in the game in like 19 years i don't i actually like to me online dating and like obviously i'm i'm i'm aware that it's like chill or whatever and totally socially normal now seems weird though but when i was last dating it was weird like i would i would have no idea where to even start with modern dating. Not even a clue. I know what not to do. I know definitely not to use my influence to groom people like minors.

I've learned from my fellow YouTubers and Twitch streamers that that is actually not okay. But I wouldn't know what to do. I was never good at it. I hated the online apps, but the very short period of time that I was looking for dates using online apps, like a lot of other people were kind of feeling uneasy about it too, because it was kind of the very beginning. So I just didn't use them.

I would like go to chapters, which i don't think exists anymore indigo a bookstore sure there we go um and just like peruse interesting sections and just try to like see if i could spark up a interesting conversation uh one time i was on a bus and this lady sat next to me. So I texted my friend about how I was like wondering if I should ask them out, but did it in a way that they could see my phone. That worked actually. Very awkward though. It worked. I mean, I'm not denying that it could be successful.

I'm just saying like. Nailed it. Tried it one time. 100% success rate. Guaranteed to function. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. I don't drink.

So back then, the thing was just like go to bars. Yeah. So I was like, okay, I don't want to go to clubs or bars because I don't drink. And those places are not as great. Hey, mocktails are apparently cool now. bars because I don't drink and those places are not as great. Hey, mocktails are apparently cool now. So you can

spend way too much on a drink to not even get buzzed and think that it's okay. Fantastic. So I don't know. A lot of my stuff was just winging it because the only advice I'd get from anyone was go to bars, go to clubs, or

use online dating. I was like, like well i don't drink so the first two are out and online dating seems super weird so the third one's kind of out and i never met a girl anywhere other than christian summer camp and school you're asking the wrong people my my takeaway is there's no hope for you okay joseph yeah we both better hang on to what we've got yeah because we'd be screwed neither of us have any idea what we're supposed to do lost poor guys uh joseph even given sorry sorry okay go for it if we lost the there was the fish in the sea analogy right if we if we were dumped, we'd be like the random turtle that's like swimming with the fish or whatever. I'm lost.

I don't know where I'm supposed to be. Siri? Hello, Siri? Sir, that's an Android. This is a Wendy's. How do I do the dating? Please help. Sorry, you can go.

Yeah. No, it's fine fine people come here for this um okay this one's from joseph even given the experience and professionalism of everyone at lmg accidents happen what are some of the more serious things that have happened while on the job over the years i don't know there was that time i leaked the entire payroll of the company on Wednesday. There was that time a few hours ago when you leaked the Facebook streaming key. What? Oh, was that today? That was broken anyway.

Your email to Nick Light about new product ideas. Oh. You had emailed me the streaming key. Yeah, we saw it. There it is. It's right at the top there. Oh, it's the whole thing. Well, it's also wrong. It's wrong. That one didn't work. Yeah. Oh, cool. But we updated it is. It's right at the top there. Oh, it's the whole thing. Well, it's also wrong.

It's wrong. That one didn't work. Oh, cool. But we updated it anyways. That's what I was doing on my phone when you guys were talking. I was wondering about that. Yeah. Good job.

I don't know. Accidents happen. Serious things that have happened. There was the time that Colton Copyright striked our own channel twice. In fairly rapid succession, if I succession if i remember yeah that's pretty good i mean you you pretty much name it something's gone it's gone wrong at some point or another yeah i mean i we uploaded man back in the day like we uploaded entire videos with like missing audio and stuff like the uh there's one that's still live my video on nvidia's 3d vision glasses is

just like missing audio for most of it and i just i forget what i did did i caption it or something i don't even remember i was just like well i can't re-record it so if the box is open now yeah um apparently there was that time that you leaked the fixed shaft screwdrivers uh well yeah but that i meant i meant to do that yeah here we go nvidia geforce 3d vision glasses on box intro let's go voice cracks and everything I'm ready for dating oh do you guys want to hear this nope okay I mean sure okay this is epic what is this from did I feel this voice over we're unboxing the nvidia g4 for the land of sorts outside.

I think two takes. Look at these clothes. What am I even doing? Look at this. Look at this guy. Why do I wear such big clothes? That's the transmitter, the infrared transmitter that hooks up to your computer. I'm figuring out, really, I have no idea what I'm doing here. Like, I've never seen any of this stuff before when I'm opening up the box.

Why is this a voiceover? I'm about to put on the glasses for the very first time. Because the audio was missing. And you can see there. So here's me struggling to up the box. Why is this a voiceover? I'm about to put on the glasses for the very first time. Because the audio was missing. And you can see there. So here's me struggling to open the box. We're about to do it today because our microphone... Oh, yeah, there it is. We had the receiver for it on the camera, but I wasn't actually wearing it.

So the camera microphone turns off when I don't have that. So here's me struggling to open the box. We're about to demonstrate I think that I'm actually standing in a swamp land of sorts outside of our office. We didn't have the lights today so we thought we'd just film it outside with the natural light. Very natural

experience overall. So there's the carrying pouch for the glasses and then next you'll... Beautiful. Completely f***ing unwatchable. How did this happen? I clearly don't deserve it.

What's really remarkable is you didn't get any better. Okay, next one before you fire me. This is from Sondre. do you have any odd pc habits i got taken aback by an answer on a previous wan show to use two trackball mice to improve shortcut capabilities i agree but i feel uneasy without fingers on wasid two trackball mice that one's for me as common in the studio world because you can do chords and have like 700 different shortcuts and just do this. Yeah, see, my ADD would prevent me from remembering any of those shortcuts. That's the reason why I don't use them either.

Nice. I have an external number pad that goes on the right side of my mouse pad. So I have a 10 keyless keyboard. That's not even weird anymore. Is that not weird anymore? No. Yeah, that's just like... I guess I can be a hipster about it now then.

I guess. Yeah, I did it before it was cool. I did though. Any odd PC habits? Odd PC habits? I don't know. I'm kind of normie. I'm trying to think.

You should, but you don't have more than one screen. Okay, I guess so. Yeah, I only have one monitor. With your computer setup, I think that's genuinely odd. I think I would be very surprised

if there was like many other people that have that level of a computer setup with one screen but i'm focused i'm gaming i mean i have oh no i do only have one screen at work but it's huge it's 42 inches it's like it's it's four freaking 21 inch displays. Like, and that's how I use it. I use it in quadrants. And I use it. So it's a 4K display.

I use it at 100% scaling. I have four monitors, Luke. I think whatever habits we would have wouldn't feel weird to us. I think someone else would have to observe them. I don't know. Because I don't feel like I do. Yeah, I don't feel that weird.

Okay. Okay, moving on. This is from Humberto. I'm interested in picking up a workshop jacket. Are there any places you wouldn't recommend it be worn? I'm a hobbyist woodworker, welder, and mechanic, and would hate to trash it in two months or so. Well, we were just talking about dating, so maybe not to bed. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm not on a date, probably. Yeah. I mean, unless you guys are going somewhere and you're like doing Metal art class That's fun that's a cool first date Bring two Shameless

I wouldn't wear it in the shower Yeah I don't know If you can trash it in two months I'll give you a new one so like I wouldn't worry about it Dang I wouldn't wear about it. Dang. I wouldn't wear it somewhere super hot.

I was outside wearing one of those bushwhacking and it's like, she's heavy, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, don't. This one's an anonymous. Hi, I recently got an internship at NASA with the team that drives the Perseverance Mars rover.

Oh my gosh, it's so exciting. That made me think, what's some technology that makes you hopeful about our future like space exploration does for me? Almost nothing. For me, pretty much nothing except for space exploration. Almost all technological advancement has gone in the exact direction i has i had hoped it would not there was a lot of stuff i was like man the future is gonna be so cool when you have these things and then you realize that those things are not profitable the most profitable things and then you're like oh wait technological advancement only really goes in the direction of

profit and then you're like oh wait the future going to be kind of boring in a lot of ways. It's all about like removing human element. I'd love to see recycling tech get a lot better, but, and there's a lot of work being done, which is good, but there could be a lot more. Yeah.

Yeah. This one's from Brian. Apple has a history of shifting the technological landscape will they be successful with their rumored AR VR hardware without having seen it it's impossible for me to say but I really doubt it

I don't know and maybe that's just me being just tired you know I'm tired of people saying like this time you know Google Glass Oculus Galaxy but like I just no I don't tired you know i'm tired of people saying like this time you know google glass oculus galaxy but like i just no i don't know i it's probably gonna kind of suck it'll probably be as good as it can be but i i just don't see it like phone yeah watch yeah glasses it's only going to be glasses once it's essentially indistinguishable from normal

glasses we're so far away and really good if ever if we ever get there be really tough okay this one's from drake hey linus as employers how do you and yvonne decide how much to budget for things with no direct return on investment, i.e. coffee, snacks for employees, Christmas parties, etc.? The Christmas party. I wouldn't talk about that one. Yeah, Christmas parties, just like, it's f***ed, man. Snacks?

We go through a lot of snacks. I don't even, I can tell you right now, I have no idea how much we spend on snacks. There isn't a budget. We buy a reasonable quantity of snacks can tell you right now. I have no idea how much we spend on snacks. There isn't a budget We buy a reasonable quantity of snacks do you okay and I Guess you guys trust that we're not gonna spend $1,000 a week. I mean do you actually probably okay? It's next for a hundred people I Never get any. Nobody ever brings me snacks.

I don't get any. I don't even know where this... Deliver them to my home. Don't take that as an actual instruction. I don't even know where the snacks are. I know where they are, actually, but I've never had any. They're over there. You walk by them and you walk out. No, no, no.

Those are the extras. No, forget it. You're not allowed those snacks. I'm getting snacks. They're in the writer's kitchen. He's the CEO, bruh. Don't take my snacks he's gonna eat all my snacks yeah there's a there's a shelf um i think we we buy different

ones occasionally uh kind of rotate through them i believe ariana's in charge of that now some of them are healthy some of them calin and drop something off at my house i don't remember what it was um i needed it for some reason i don't think those are cheeto puffs are lame i don't think those are approved snacks yeah they're not cheeto puffs suck you want the like dense ones not the puffy ones or the crunchy ones um but yeah calinan uh crunchy ones see i don't think those are snacks we buy it's more like granola bars and he brought me some granola bars and i was like that's cool is he coming back i don't think so all right he's gonna eat all of the snacks let me he is within his right to.

Should we get a poll going for Puffs versus Crunchy? Sure. Do you need me to do that? I don't remember. Okay. Probably. It doesn't matter. Pick a question that I can answer, and while I answer the question, I'll do the poll. Okay.

This one's probably easy for you. Sure. Luke, what does the last day before a week plus vacation look like for you? Oh god. It doesn't sound like it's a nice day. Vacations are like basically an illusion. I took vacation time because I had my wisdom teeth taken out and I am still recovering. Not from the wisdom teeth being taken out from the vacation time because the amount of backlog that I have of tasks that just piled up a horrifyingly demolished email inbox lots of other different various things that I'm supposed

to catch up on like it's the work doesn't just like go away for me because my the stuff that I'm supposed to catch up on. Like it's the work doesn't just like go away for me. Cause my, the stuff that I do is not redundant. There's no one else that does it. Um, so that kind of sucks. Um, for Linus, it's probably very frantically, um, hosting lots of videos. So they, they build a bit of a backlog before he takes off um but yeah oh someone made the poll instead of me thank you it was me oh good job puff not puff obviously because i'm not a heathen he has found the snacks i appreciate that you dislike Puffy Cheetos. It's not that I dislike them. It's that they shouldn't exist.

I think we buy them. Yeah, so each department gets their own snacks. Editors, writers. The editors don't get enough. There's only like three granola bars in their entire thing. So we should make sure they get more. Make a note. I mean, yeah, that's not my department.

That shouldn't be his job, yeah. Yeah, they have an ongoing order. We're almost out of Red Bull as well. Okay, I will scream at probably Ariana. I think that's her job now. No, that can't be her job. That shouldn't be her job. I don't remember.

She has too many other things going on. Oh, we'll just make Vance do it. What is Linus? Probably not his job either. Yeah, I don't think that's his too many other things going on. Oh, we'll just make Vance do it. Linus. It's probably not his job either. Yeah, I don't think that's his job either. It's logistics. Logistics. Can you just email Colton and make sure that it is being done by someone that actually makes any sense?

I'll deal with it. It's totally fine. Thank you. I shouldn't have upset you. Knot puffs won by a lot, and that's good. Yeah, they're nice. What if you mix them together you know big ball non-puffy gang uh linus uh luke was answering what the last day before a vacation looks like

how about you both of you a really long day yeah we both answered very negatively so stressful kind of horrible actually the last day before i go and the first day back both i was i was saying while you were gone that i'm still recovering from my vacation and i was saying i'm not i'm done recovering from my teeth sockets but i'm still recovering from the vacation because there's just there's so much to claw back on like it's just oh my goodness and then new things are coming in so it's like you don't want to leave the new stuff but then you have to claw back on the old stuff so like oh my goodness it's hard and then you just end up working a bunch of overtime and then it's

like why did we do this at all in the first place i don't know whatever um moving on next question we're just into potentials now. Do you want me to start reading off some of them? Sure. Hit me. Okay. Linus is a Fold user. Do you have any expectations for the Z Fold 4?

It's already out. Okay. To Linus, as a fan of older Final Fantasy games, I think, and Sakaguchi. It's gone. I'm happy to always hear you mention FFVI. Have you started playing Fantasian? Fantasian. Fantasian.

Dan! If so, what are your thoughts, and have you ever gotten a chance to play FFIX? Yeah, Final Fantasy IX is amazing. One of the best in the series, at least out of what I've played. I haven't played garbage ones that are not six or nine. No, I'm kidding.

I have played some other ones, but I haven't played many of the more modern ones. Final Fantasy IX was such a return to form after VII and VIII. Such a good game. Yes, I have started Fantasian. I'm about 14, 15 hours in so it's good i wouldn't describe the female characters as progressive um it's very traditional in good ways and it's also very traditional in ways that i feel like gaming has sort of moved past like the the the the hopeless love struck princess for like the brooding bad boy protagonist who treats her like crap

is sort of a... A little tired. Yeah, it's a trope that I don't really think needs to make a comeback, and it's there, at least as far as I've gotten. And so pretty much everything else, though, the beautiful environments, the way they've done the combat system,

like, ugh, being able to just, like, walk around and explore, and then it just queues up like a giant battle and you just fight all the low-level baddies at once it's like oh oh i don't even mind like random battles because it'll just be like sent monsters to your little dimension um yeah really enjoying it so far though cool hi luke and linus as a woman in computer science it's kind of depressing to see so few women involved slash included in the popular tech sphere is there a reason there haven't been many women knowledgeable in tech features and videos we don't feature yeah we don't really feature people um for the most part yeah kind of our own bubble

yeah it's man it's tough i mean i'm happy to i'm happy to say that tentatively i'm hoping there will be at least one female creator at ltx well confirmations are starting to roll in but i haven't actually checked with anyone that it's cool to say they're going to be there so i'm not going to name anybody but one female creator is uh hopefully going to be there yeah that's good it's it's not like they don't exist and they exist in very hardcore technical spheres as well um there's just not many and And it's like, it's one of those things where I'm kind of sitting here going, well, okay. On the one hand, like I, what am I supposed to do? Right. Like I can't, I can't conjure women in the tech sphere.

Um, and I also, like, I'm, I'm not gonna, i'm not gonna pretend they like need my help or whatever like i'm not gonna mansplain or whatever being in the tech sphere like i i don't know i know shannon morse has been uh if you ever watched like threat wire hack five back in the day or anything like that she's she's been around forever um awesome content i don't know it's it's it's tough like we can only hire people who apply yeah like people are pointing out well what about your bubble like shouldn't you just chris would be nice for content yeah but like call me chris does her own thing and let me tell you she ain't technical that's fine i consider her a friend and i tell her that to her face but there's a reason that she needed me to come put together a computer like so that's the thing i i don't know

yeah i don't know we yeah we can we can only hire people who apply okay um don't normally catch you live linus is martial artist. I'm curious, why have you taken a step back from training yourself and focusing on helping teach? I've always found the best teachers are the ones that are training and improving. Get called out. a gigantic leap, colossal leap back from training myself. I hadn't done any training in 18 years when I set foot in my daughter's class to help out. It's because the only reason I'm doing it is to help make them more enthusiastic about their training. I'm being a dad, I'm not trying to get to competitive form

or anything like that. I enjoyed it, but the main benefits for me from martial arts, I'm not trying to like get to competitive form or anything like that. I enjoyed it. But the things, the main benefits for me from martial arts, like I'm not going to compete. I'm not going to, I have other things that I do to stay in shape. The main benefits for me are things like, you know, knowing how to fall safely and stuff like that, which I know. And I don't need to go, I don't need to really go practice. I know, and I don't need to go, I don't need to really go practice. Yeah, I mean, to be clear, I actually have done more training since I have talked about it. So I booked a two-hour private with the master of their dojo,

and we basically ran through everything from, like, up to like blue like like full blue curriculum and then I got have it all on video so that I can go and review and that's that'll be really helpful for me when I'm like helping out the young kids but you got to understand like I'm just helping out in basic classes I'm showing newcomers things like how to make a fist properly right like I'm I yeah I remember it I remember it. I remember it pretty well. It's pretty okay.

Yeah, I was going to say, I think teaching is a step forward, if anything, because I was completely out of it. Okay, this one's from Andrew. Long time watcher and fan. It has been his experience of his own watching the channel grow over the past 10 years. Time flies. Over the years, what are some positive ways Telling me when I'm wrong. I mean, that's the biggest one,

is just like helping keep our guiding star where it should be. And I think everyone here deserves a ton of credit for that no they don't um telling you you're wrong uh this is from hayley hey linus take my physical riding test for a motorcycle in a month how nervous were you to take your test would you have any tips for someone who has a little over 70 hours under my belt? Well, one tip would be that you have so much more riding experience than I did when I did my test that there's no excuse for failing if you do yourself. No, I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

Yeah, that's really great. You've done a really good job of preparing yourself. I will say that I wasn't particularly nervous about the test itself because by the time I did my riding test, I had like 10 years of driving experience almost. No, not. Maybe eight years. I don't know.

I had a lot of driving experience. I drove a lot. So however long I'd been driving, I had done a lot of driving in that time. So it's the same road here. Anyway, it's the same road test for a motorcycle or a car so i had already done my car road test and drove a lot so i just had to do it on a bike the thing that made me nervous was that the only place i could get an appointment was richmond

and there's got to be something in the water because driving in rich is terrifying. Just pretty little regard for things. Like, man, I almost got hit like three weeks ago because fortunately I'm a super defensive driver slash defensive rider, so I am always head on a swivel assuming that every other car on the road is a complete f***ing idiot. Like, that's how I drive.

Good way to go. So I was turning left and a car was turning right into two lanes. Now, we should both maintain lane position, and we should both be able to go at the same time. Because I am a defensive driver, I didn't go. Yeah, you never trust that. I slowed down a little bit. Without looking, they went, thwop, straight into my lane.

Would have just hit me. would have just hit me would have just nailed me um only time i've ever had to use my e-brake as anything other than a parking brake was yeah driving an ncx back in the day man the uh the the pillar in the parking garage at Aberdeen Mall is covered in so many different colors of luxury car paint. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yep. I once saw someone hit it. Like, they took the turn too tight, and they hit it.

And instead of backing up and, like, going around. Did they, like, push through? They just floored it. Oh! So instead of one panel being damaged, it was basically the entire side of the car. I couldn't believe my eyes. I've never seen anything like it before

or since. That's wild. I don't know. I got this one from John. Hi Linus, Luke, and Dan. Two questions. I am in Human Computer Interaction course. HCI. Are there any interfaces you use that make you frustrated?

Just brought a Steam Deck, and have you considered doing a long-term review or a revisit? But, yeah. No, probably not going to revisit the Steam Deck anytime soon. We'll take a look at where the software has gotten to once, like, a Steam Deck 2 launches or something like that. We did take a look at the new accessory, the dock, the deck dock. And yeah, other than that, I don't think the experience has changed much other than just generally getting better and better and better and better and better. I wouldn't have much else to say at this point.

As for interfaces that make me frustrated, I mean, I'd have a hard time finding an interface that doesn't make me frustrated at times. That's probably pretty normal. Study hard. Do great work. Good luck. We need you. This one's from Colin.

Colin, Linus re-watched the original Jesco video, and while I can relate to the frustrations of customer support policies, I found the way you treated a support rep with no control over the policy cringeworthy. Was there any debate over including that? No, it was included. I never looked at the video before it was published.

Frankly, I mean, I didn't swear. I didn't insult them. I was extremely frustrated. I made it very clear. I will never go straight for that card, but I got to tell you, I don't make the rules about what works. And unfortunately, from my experience, that's the way to get escalated to someone higher up. And that sucks. People should just help you immediately. But a lot of places that i've interacted with have policies where unless

you get mad you just don't get any help so i was i was pulling a lever um i was very much in control when i was talking to them so like i said you know i'm not going to personally attack them or anything like that because obviously they um i know absolutely nothing about them. But what I will tell you is that something that that individual did do that did rub me the wrong way was they basically, you know, use the textbook. I don't I don't like a script being used on me. Unfortunately, is not is not fortune. That is that is a decision that was made. That's not fortune. That's not chance. It's not luck. Uh, it's not lucky or unlucky. It's a decision that

was made. And so when you basically stonewall and go, no, you can't talk to anyone else. So a, I can't do anything for you. And B, no, you can't talk to anyone who can. Well, yeah, you're going to get some venting because you can do that. You choose not to. And ultimately, when I did speak to someone, guess what? The policy was stupid and the policy got changed. So maybe if instead of stonewalling customers, however many times that has happened, that feedback was passed along, we would be in a different situation by the time I had to call. So yeah, I guess I just don't buy it. On the one hand, yeah, I understand that frontline support workers get a lot of grief.

But at the end of the day, as a customer, they are literally the only means you have of getting a message to anyone behind them. So what are you supposed to do not express frustration with a phenomenally stupid policy that makes absolutely no sense i don't know it's tough yeah it's tough i guess i always try to add in like i know this isn't on you, but I am pissed. Yeah. Okay, on a bit of a lighter note, this is from Justin.

Do you plan to add any more Lego decor around your house? I thought the flowers were an awesome idea and might look really good with an Imperial Star Destroyer. Luke, do you have any Lego decor? Some, actually. Yeah. I think actually not originally inspired by you guys, because I don't think she had seen them yet. Right. But my girlfriend is recently obsessed with Lego and has gotten a lot of the similar things.

That's awesome. Like the little plants and flowers and stuff. Plenty time. Yeah. That makes sense. We have the piano. I'm stuff. Plenty time. Yeah. Makes sense. We have the piano. I'm sure my wife will buy more stuff. I don't know.

Going here from Nathan. What is a device or item that you almost always buy cheaply or isn't worth buying expensive? This is a company purchase. He's bought a couple of screwdrivers. Nice. We design, install custom solar slash battery slash inverter systems with a focus on specialty vehicles. Cool. Bought my driver in and now buying some for our shop.

Oh, that's awesome. Sweet. A device that I cheap out on. Is it a device? Yeah. Or item. Yeah, just something I cheap out on. Snacks for around the office?

I never buy fancy water cooling coolant. Okay, yeah. I always just use tap water with some biocide in it because i just don't care our tap water is decently good like we don't have really hard uh tap water so anything for you luke i mean you just don't buy anything ever yeah i don't know uh it's not 100% true. He doesn't buy clothing. Free. You guys don't... Oh, you have shorts now. It's good.

It's good clothing. You don't have socks yet. Those aren't true. When are the socks coming? Okay, this one's from Eli. Hi, Luke and Linus. Here from America, thinking our capitalistic healthcare system sucks too.

I'm wondering what your thoughts on video game cheating where it's widely accepted. Like 2B2T in Minecraft. That's a different situation. I don't even know what 2B2T is. It's like a lawless Minecraft server as far as my understanding goes. Is that right? Oh, well, yeah. As long as everyone understands.

Yeah, then it doesn't matter. It's not even cheating cheating it's just engaging in a variety of ways yeah that's fine that's that's like it's the exact same caveat that i threw in where i was like we're talking about multiplayer games you know this is sure it's a multiplayer game but it's accepted so like who cares yeah it's only when it's deceptive that it's a problem. Yeah. If I start cheating playing a game with my friends, you know, yeah. It's fun. Or if it's allowed. This one here is from Nicholas. Hey, Luke and Linus, any product launches that performed way better than expected

and any that were the exact opposite? Thank you very much. Love the show. Oh, man. You guys are asking really hard questions tonight. Either that or my brain is just dumb yeah there's also a lot of them all the questions tonight were so good which is why i had to do so many man this is tough you're gonna know this a lot better than me i think more people

should buy the abcs of gaming it has five stars okay More people should buy this. Yeah, it's a book. It's adorable. Exactly what you pay for. A board book. Okay? Also, my infant loves it. Okay?

Oh, they didn't get the pre-bonus items. Well, you got to contact support. What do you... Don't... Ugh. Everyone loved that. Okay? Start of a nursery collection.

Let's go. Five stars. Five stars. Five stars. Everyone should buy the ABCs of gaming. To be clear, we've sold tens of thousands of copies. So I don't know. I don't know what to tell you.

But it's... More people should have it. The question is technically phrased, than expected, not than you expected which i know still applies don't worry about it um but i'm going to take this as other people i think the screwdriver and the backpack both outperformed what external people expected oh yeah probably but i was i was reasonably confident i, I was stressed because it was such a huge gamble. Yeah.

The screwdriver proved better than I expected. Because of our wave system, you could actually tell exactly how many we had sold. I got a lot of messages of people being like, Whoa. It's like, yeah, we're a screwdriver company now. Wait. I know, right? Hilarious.

This one's from Ericic recent smartphone releases have been iterative slash boring are there any new features on the horizon that could get you excited for new phones no nope they could bring back sd cards it would be bringing back old features that they've got rid of yeah it's more than just SD card in my opinion, but there's a few different things. I mean, I'm pretty into foldables. He's not, but I am. I think it's pretty cool. I are a blaster. Your screen's gross.

All the foldable screens are gross. This one's from Tim. Last one. I'm sad my old witty ThinkGeek shirts are wearing away to rags, and I have no way to replace them. Since TG is effectively dead, could you consider imitating or seeking a license to reprint them? I don't think so. I like the style that we're aiming for.

I like the mostly subtle. Yeah. This one's not that subtle. Yeah, but it's like engineering diagram. I don't know. It's very unoffensive. Yeah. That's all I got for you.

That's it. That's it. Okay. Well, I'm text replying to them feverishly here from the incoming messages. There's 26. We must have had a good launch today because a lot of people were like, yes, I will part with my money in order to have that new product that you guys launched okay I've been

watching for a long time is you yeah I was gonna rapid-fire these the LTT store is in USD only because it simplifies pricing and collection of and calculation of like margins and all of that because all of our costs are in US dollars pretty much not all but mostly so we might as well just set our price in US dollars Oh what's happening to these are some of them are getting archived oh are they okay yes investor demands for Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yes. Investor demands for returns are terrible and will hurt innovation. Yeah, Mark C.

It's bad. It's bad. Todd. First time buyer. Y'all are streaming. Hey, hi. Love everything and have a good... Oh, okay. Show. Okay, perfect. We're going through these together. Let's go. People are duplicating actions. Instead of making boring fixed screwdrivers, have you considered a series of handles with interchangeable shafts? We've considered it. People are duplicating actions. Instead of making boring fixed screwdrivers, have you considered a series of handles with interchangeable shafts?

We've considered it. We are not going to do it, and the reason for that is that you would add slop, and we don't really want to do that. Elon overtly uses bots to fluff of comments. His social media posts automatically... Do you feel that he had early access to chat GPT type AI? I don't know.

Overtly uses? Yeah, I don't know. Overtly uses? Yeah, I don't think he uses it on purpose. I think that's, yeah. When you ran your Thunderbolt cable through your wall, did you find a way to do it without having the cable stick out of a wall plate? No, there's no Thunderbolt keystone. You won't find that. Sorry.

Rewatch the original Jessica. Oh, yeah. The archive. We just talked about that one. one okay there's only nine left these are all uh rejected yeah go for it they are yeah i thought bottom right i thought rejected rejected what these are the potential ones that were rejected what i don't know read them if you. But we talked about the computer-human interaction one. Hi, Luke, says Anonymous. Perfect.

With the challenge over, have you gone back to 7900XTX? Yes. Well, that's the next challenge. Yeah, I'm replying. Okay, we did this one. Archive. Okay, why are you guys adding potential rejected? We should just archive them?

I don't know. Why'd they go back to incoming? They get pulled back into incoming for... They should be archived. No, no, no, no, archived no no no no i remember i remember conrad explained this because if you just archive it doesn't show it yeah so it needs to pop back out so you can decide what to do with it either reply to it show it okay this is user error sorry conrad nice nice intelligent system my black shaft screwdriver was stolen from me this week! Do you have a plan to release something to secure it to your pocket or belt instead of having it loose? Yes! I wanna do a holster.

Like a cringe dad holster. Would it secure it though? Cause that's what- Yeah! With like, with like snaps. Yeah! Oh boy. That's what I want to do yes we have a plan all right that's it that's all see you again next week same bad time same bad channel bye I would have brought you one, but I forgot.