The Weekly Planet - 02 Cursed Movies & TV Shows

Episode Date: October 26, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:53 Hey, guess what Mason? Yes, go on This episode is brought to you by HelloFresh Sick I thought you wanted some good news, so I've delivered That's very good news Just like they deliver to you, but we'll talk about it later, don't worry about it Red hot comic book movie news.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Shooting up your butthole. The Weekly Planet. The Weekly Planet. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet. Thank you. Excuse me? It's good to be here. This isn't going to be a regular thing.
Starting point is 00:01:21 I like it when I do funny interrupting things, but I do not like it when it's turned on me. That's right. Episode two of the show and you've already set it off the rails, Mason. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, this podcast is going to be all about chaos. Just kidding. I like it clean and orderly.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Absolutely. So continue with your intro. Thank you. Where was I? Where we talk movies and comics and TV shows, my name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host on his best behavior, I hope. Great to be here.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Nick Mason. Great to be here. What's going on? Nothing, just hanging out, you know. We're recording a late one. It's true. Yeah, we recorded. Sorry?
Starting point is 00:01:55 These get pretty manic, so settle in, everybody. Or they sound the same. I don't know. Or we just sound exhausted. It's tough to know when you're in it, you know what I mean? I have this kombucha. We're in the trenches of recording a fake radio show. Podcasting is as real as any media, Mason.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Is it? No. It's very niche. Yeah. When I meet somebody new, it's always the last thing I bring up. Yeah, same. It's literally my job. What do you do?
Starting point is 00:02:24 Well, I'm sort of a teacher, five years ago. I tell cab drivers that now because it's just easier. What do you do? I'm a teacher. I'm a podcaster. What's that? It's like a... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:34 So, you know, it's like... You know what a tram is, right? What does that pay? Do you know what a tram is? It's like a box on wheels. Well, anyway, this box doesn't have any wheels on it and we record a podcast in it. That's right.
Starting point is 00:02:46 So this week, it's the spookiest season of the year, obviously. It is spooky. Speaking of, I just want to mention up top, normally we'd release an episode on bigsandwich.co of our podcast. We got this covered cover, which covers clickbait. Yes. And clickbait articles. But because it's the spookiest season of the year,
Starting point is 00:03:00 we actually recorded a commentary, which is up right now, for Freddie versus Jason. Frederick the murderer versus Jason the murderer. Two of the murderers going together to do who can do the most murders. Who's the best murderer? I think it's probably Jason who does the most murders, from memory. I think he is the...
Starting point is 00:03:18 They feel like more honest murders. Yeah, that's true. He's straight up. He's not trapping you in a weird dream dimension. But I had a lot of fun with. He's straight up. He's not trapping you in a weird dream dimension. But I had a lot of fun with recording this one. Absolutely. We had not seen this since it came out
Starting point is 00:03:28 in cinemas in 2003. Which we inexplicably saw but we used to see everything then. That's true. But yeah, it was good fun. Also, just quietly, I thought we might run
Starting point is 00:03:38 out of things to say because we don't know a lot about horror movies but... Turns out we spun our wheels. We spun so many wheels. It's only an hour and a half. We learned all kinds of facts about Jason and Freddy.
Starting point is 00:03:47 That's it. You know, we learned about all the billions of alternate scripts for this movie that came out. Oh, my goodness, so many. So that's up right now. It is $9 a month if you do want to sign up. But it's not just that. There's a huge back catalogue of other movie commentaries
Starting point is 00:03:59 and bonus podcasts and early videos and whatever else is up there. I can't remember. Dances? No, there's not a single dance up there. Should we add some dances? If you upload a dance, if you send me a dance, I will upload it. Okay, great. I'm not kidding.
Starting point is 00:04:11 You'll forget. I will forget. I forgot. You put up a comment on Ryan Reynolds' Free Guy trailer. That's right. And I said that I was going to put up Space Invaders Deadpool and I forgot the comment. But if you look at a lot of the top comments there,
Starting point is 00:04:26 it's just people like, where's that comment? Yeah, good. You ruined everyone's day. Speaking of ruining everyone's day. Should I do it now? No, don't make promises you won't keep. I'll do it right now, James. Okay, do it.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Oh, I'm going to. So this week we're going to talk about how Quibi is dead. Oh, no. We're going to talk about Uncharted. There's a very exciting trailer for some Mates of Ours which is coming to Netflix. Yeah, that's right. There's also some No Time to Die Bond news.
Starting point is 00:04:49 The Dark Universe is expanding yet again. Excuse me, what? Battlestar Galactica. John McClane is back. Wait, wait, wait. You snuck that in real subtle like the Dark Universe. I'm not hallucinating. We're going to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Okay, great. Fast and Furious is coming to an end. Snyder Cut news. Got some other stuff in here. And then our topic is, of course, we like to pick a topic that's indicative of the season. That's right. It's the spookiest time of the year. I'm not talking about bloody text time, Mason.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Anyway, we're going to review all the pumpkin spice lattes that are out there. That's right. That's right. We're going to rank them all. That's what people like, right? Ranking. That's right. Now we're going to talk about cursed productions.
Starting point is 00:05:22 That's right. Which was actually your idea, and I vetoed it, but we didn't have a better one. So that's back in. No, I think it's a great idea because we were going to just do like Halloween stuff that we like or whatever. So I think this is terrific. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Just a quick update. Yep, yep. Currently all the top comments on the Free Guy trailer is like a hundred in a row that all just say, say no to fish bowls. So I guess it's inhumane to put a fish in a fish bowl. Yeah. Right. So,
Starting point is 00:05:49 and somebody's, somebody's caught wind of that. So say no to fish bowls. Goldfish need 20 gallons because they become huge. Isn't that a myth? Oh, not according to their environment. Not,
Starting point is 00:06:00 not according to all these people. So there you go. I can't argue with all these people. That's right. On the internet. Yeah, that's right. So Quibi Mason. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Oh, time codes as well if you want to jump around. It's shutting down as of December 1st. It only just started in April. And you might think, well, that would have been a bad time to start a streaming service with brand new shows that people can watch in a time when content is king. That's right. Everyone's stuck in their homes. Yeah, that's right. They're just looking at that TV. They're like, wish there was more stuff coming out of is king. That's right. Everyone's stuck in their homes. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:06:25 They're just looking at that TV. They're like, wish there was more stuff coming out of my TV. That's right. Going into my TV? Well, it can't come out of the TV. No, that's right. But it was only mobile, which they recently changed. But guess what?
Starting point is 00:06:35 You're six months fucking late. So what happened is- Oh, so this is going to be a rude podcast. Mason, it's late, so it's rude. So apparently approximately 200 employees are out of work, which is a massive shame and it leaves dozens of projects from partners in limbo. But I believe that anybody who puts content on Quibi also own it
Starting point is 00:06:54 so that when they went to sell it, people were like, well, what are we buying specifically, this app that nobody uses? But at least, James, at least Reese Witherspoon got $6 million to do that voiceover thing where she did the voiceovers over like animals doing fierce stuff in nature. That's fun. And it was like, yas, queen. That was the show?
Starting point is 00:07:15 That was the show. But there is good stuff on there, isn't there? The golden arm. Yeah, that's the thing that I said. The Reese Witherspoon narrates over wildlife documentaries. And also something I also learned this week. Get someone who does voices. Yeah, Reese Witherspoon.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I mean, other than her own voice. Yeah. I mean. It's Michael Winslow. I mean, there's no reason that they should have hired Reese Witherspoon except for the fact that her husband hired her because he's on the board. Oh, Dax Shepard.
Starting point is 00:07:42 No. Oh, no. I'm thinking of the other one. Yes, go on. Let's see if you can pull it. Kristen Stewart. Kristen Bell. Bell, thank you.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Kristen Stewart is another one. I'm talking about women. I could obviously confuse them all, it turns out. So as of the third quarter, Quibi reached 710,000 subscribers. No. Yeah. Does that make sense? That number makes sense when it came out then.
Starting point is 00:08:03 That physically is a number, yes. Okay, good. It's not an imaginary number or a negative number. I just couldn't work out whether that made sense when I said it. Do you want to show me the figure and I can confirm whether or not. Seven. It's 710 and then three more O's. That's how many I'm intending to answer, yes.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Now that I see that, that was absolutely correct. But also it's, which is down 300,000 from the previous quarter. So they planned this year to have 7.4 million paying subscribers and they are obviously not near that. They didn't quite make that. They got $1.75 billion in funding. That was what it raised through Hollywood Studios and tech companies and other investors.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Suckers. Suckers, I should say, which will be returned to its investors as specified in the company's operating agreement. So this feels like they're just like, we've got to shatter this because we're not bouncing back, obviously. And as part of the statement, which is from Meg Whitman and what's his name? Jeffrey, no.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Who's the guy who runs this thing? I don't know. The former Disney exec. James, why would I put that information in my brain now? It used to be at Disney. Okay. It's Jeffrey Katzenberg? Jeffrey Katzenberg, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Okay, right. I was thinking Heisenberg. I was like, no, that's the guy from Breaking Bad. Breaking Bad, yeah. So, yeah, they released this joint statement. They said, the world has changed dramatically since Quibi launched and our standalone business model is no longer viable. They should have said, and never was, but, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:26 The circumstances of launching. That's the thing, though. Like if we didn't have this pandemic, people maybe would be watching stuff on their phones. Do you really think this would have? I mean, I wouldn't have done this. I think also the marketing was really confusing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Because what's on this? People don't know. I still don't know. Just the Golden Arms show as far as I'm concerned. But if you're launching, like they didn't really explain what Quibi is, what do you have on it, the celebrities, because I'm still finding, like I didn't know that, the Reese Witherspoon thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Like you probably want people to know, you know, who's on it. Yeah, yeah. Because they had huge names on it. So the circumstances of launching during a pandemic is something we could have never imagined, but other businesses have faced these unprecedented challenges and have found their way through it, which is very, very true. So I don't know. I feel like if everybody's at home,
Starting point is 00:10:10 you don't really want to watch eight-minute shows on your phone. No, especially since I'm on my phone already doing other non-Quibi-related things. You're cutting in on a model which already exists on TikTok and YouTube and Twitter and Instagram and Facebook, and what are you providing here? Do you know what I mean? This would have worked better as a variety of social media platforms.
Starting point is 00:10:30 And on top of that, you can't share any of the stuff that you're watching including screenshots. So it's like what's your plan here? It's so boomer focused, this entire thing. I'm sort of fascinated to see how it will shake out. Like I kind of hope that in years to come, like there will be a whistleblower of some kind who's like, yeah, we just, we took the money and we bloody,
Starting point is 00:10:50 gave it to Reese Witherspoon. Gave it to Reese Witherspoon. This is her husband's business. This is how he talks. I mean, this is how I talk. Also, she's got a massive Apple deal. Like she's crushing it. I guess because she does have that production company.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I honestly thought, and maybe it's because it's late, I thought you were going to say, she's got a massive Apple too. Does she really? She's got this massive Apple. Where'd you get it? She's not tarred up for a buck. Look at the big apple she buys. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Quibi is – we're thinking of covering something for Caravan of Garbage. Yeah. Upcoming. That's right. But before we get to that – The documentary will be called Trials and Quibilations. Very good. I'm taking it before anybody else can take it.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I'm going to do it. That's going to be one of those Netflix programs where it's like we didn't know what we were doing. thousand quibblations very good i'm taking it before anybody else i'm gonna do it that's gonna be one of those netflix programs where it's like we didn't know what we were doing we thought we were changing the world you know like there's people who work at facebook and we all made a hundred million dollars each but we realized we did the wrong thing when we ruined the economy it's just interviews of them on their yachts just being like yeah in a way i do feel slightly bad about it are you considering giving back any of the money? No. Obviously I can't.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Because I bought this yacht. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. I mean, cash. But yeah. That's right. We also, though, got our first look at Uncharted officially. That's right.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Tom Holland in the Nathan Drake get-up. He's looking pretty good. He's got all the things that you need. A dirty Henley. A cargo pant. Cargo pants. Full of jammy dodgers. No doubt. And like the ring on his necker lace.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Yes. And he's got the double holsters. He's looking good, man. He's looking pretty good. That's what you want out of this. He's got that signature Nathan Drake smirk, I think, you can see in that photo. That smugness.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Yeah. That's the smugness of a killer. That's right. You know? And all he has to do is just get in there and not speak in his voice. In his own voice. In his own voice. What about if he does his Spider-Man American voice
Starting point is 00:12:29 or is that too like, oh, no, too much trouble? Somebody who's stronger than me, help. You know? Yeah. Or is he going to do like he's going to do a lower register? Do you think he is? Maybe he's got a tough guy voice, yeah. Probably got a tough guy voice.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I mean, remember he did The Devil All the Time? I haven't seen it, but maybe he's probably not like, The Devil's All the Time. Maybe like The Devil is All the Time. The Devil is All the Time, Tom Holland. We agree. You are so correct there. So the other thing is, and this kind of just broke today for us.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Dear diary. Hello. The Devil's All the Time. Tom Holland here. He's doing me first day on a big Hollywood movie He's 24 He's a grown man No, no, no
Starting point is 00:13:13 This is how he speaks And he's done multiple Hollywood movies No, every time he packs up his little bindle And he goes And it's like it's his first Hollywood movie. Hollywood. Hollywood movie, exactly. So we saw Mark Warburg.
Starting point is 00:13:29 I said, how are we going to even get there? It's uncharted. Oh, that's very good. And then he explained it was just the name of the movie. I understand. I still do school classes in between takes. Me ma said I look ever so brave. He's 24.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I'm Nathan Drake. I'm Nathan Drake, innit? Nathan. Nathan Drake. So Mark Wahlberg was spotted on Instagram wearing a fake moustache. He wasn't spotted. He filmed himself. He was spotted, Mason.
Starting point is 00:14:00 He was caught in a lie. Yeah. And there's a couple of ways this could go. I'm a bit woozy from doing the Tom Holland voice. I bet he is as well. Yeah. But so they've already started filming and he didn't have a moustache. So either he acquires a moustache through this film,
Starting point is 00:14:18 like he grows one. Or he acquires one that's on like a, he has to swap it for a bag of sand so the trap doesn't spring. They could be CGI-ing one in because of the backlash. Yep, that's right. Because Sully's defining characteristic is that he has a moustache. Sure, yeah. Or it could be that he's doing, they do undercover stuff,
Starting point is 00:14:38 they'll go into a party and maybe he's wearing a fake one. See, that's the thing, I think people would be mad if he was like, like he puts it on for one scene and he's like, imagine if I actually had a moustache. And then someone's like, well, actually you look good. And he's like, shut up. Yeah. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Someone's like, actually you do in the video game version of this movie we're in. Did you say you also met the voice of Naked Drake? Naked Drake. Naked Drake. I'm sure there's a mod. It's a Metal Gear Solid character probably called Naked Drake at this point. It's Nolan North. Nolan character probably called Naked Drake at this point.
Starting point is 00:15:06 It's Nolan North. Nolan North. A lot of people wanted him to play it, but it's not really, like he's older and he's not that kind of actor, you know what I mean? He probably is, but you know. And there was also people point to that Nathan Fillion short where, because Nathan Drake is,
Starting point is 00:15:21 it is Nathan Fillion. The hair, the face. Do you Nathan Fillion, yeah. In every respect, the hair, the face. Do you think Fillion will get a cameo of some sort? I don't know. Well, he's not officially tied to it really. No, I know. Maybe they bring him in as fan service. That's not how things work, Mason.
Starting point is 00:15:34 No, probably not. Or it is how things work. I mean, oftentimes these days it kind of is how things work. That's true, isn't it? So this is exciting and this hits close to home for us, Mason. There's an earthquake. There's an earthquake. God, it's exciting out Mason. There's an earthquake. There's an earthquake. God, it's exciting out there.
Starting point is 00:15:46 It's really great. I'm so excited. Just to clarify, we don't really get earthquakes in Australia. You might get a slight tremor very irregularly because we're in the centre of a tectonic plate. So we're safe, aren't we, Mason-ish? Mostly, yeah. I mean, except for all the bushfires and spiders and whatever. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:01 Yes. But Aunty Donna have a trailer for their Netflix TV series. Very exciting. I'm so excited. I think Broden told us maybe a year ago that this was happening. James, let me tell you. Maybe longer. When Broden, a friend of the show, Broden from Aunty Donna,
Starting point is 00:16:15 came up to us and he said that they'd signed a Netflix deal and they'd written it and they'd filmed it and they'd edited it and produced it and they had a definitive release date, that's when I knew, had a little inkling something was coming up. Let's just say I had a little hunch that something was happening. But it's coming out November the 11th. Yeah, oh man.
Starting point is 00:16:33 And that's the good thing about when they, on Netflix they're like, here's an ad. It's like it's out in two weeks or whatever. Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of guys. Absolutely. And we've talked about this off air but if this had have gone to one of the networks here, they would have definitely fucked it up. I don't mean Aunty Donna would have fucked it up.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I mean the networks here would have fucked it up. So just to get that free reign and to get Ed Helms involved and a bunch of other really exciting people. Look, yeah. I mean you've also got your Ben Russells and your Michelle Braziers. They're in there. Yeah, but, you know, it's got – for people out there who are like, you keep recommending Aunty Donna and they sound funny,
Starting point is 00:17:08 but we're not – I'm not going to watch this unless there's big American celebrities involved. Whoa. Ed Helms is in it. Yep. Wiedel Yankovic's in it. Paul F. Tompkins is in it. Kristen Schaal is in it.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yep. Tawny Newsome from Star Trek Lower Decks is in it. Along with her co-star and our personal best friend, Jack Quaid is in it as well as her co-star and our personal best friend, Jack Quaid, is in it as well as. Minimum Betrayal. That's right, as well as his co-star from The Boys, Anthony Starr, is in it briefly. He plays Homelander.
Starting point is 00:17:31 So this is, I haven't seen any more than whatever analysis, but judging by literally every other piece of media that they've ever put out. This will be funny. This is going to be great. Good stuff. Six episodes. Congratulations to Zach, Mark, Broden, but also, if you don't know. That's it.
Starting point is 00:17:48 No, behind the scenes there's Sam who does a lot of writing on their stuff, Max who's their director, and Tom who does all the music. So congratulations to all those guys. And there's a variety of other Australian talent that have worked on it as before. Matt Stewart's been in it as well. So it's just really exciting.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Yeah. And we're probably going to do some crossover stuff with those guys. There's a little bit of promo, mate. Obviously it'll cost them, but I'm looking forward to taking that Netflix money, mate. I thought you meant cost them in terms of standing. Oh yeah, it's going to cost them monetarily also. I was going to say,
Starting point is 00:18:22 a lot of people have tweeted us this week and they're like, you know, maybe I'll check them out or like, you keep saying they're funny. What should I watch? Because again, they have so much stuff on YouTube. Yeah, I like the school nurse skit. I also like the school nurse skit, yeah. You can really click on anything,
Starting point is 00:18:37 but they do it in seasons, so they have like a theme. Yeah, I have a series called Glenridge Secondary College, which is set it's a bunch of interconnected sketches set in a school, so maybe just start at that. Yeah. I have a series called Glenridge Secondary College, which is set, it's a bunch of interconnected sketches set in a school. So maybe just start at that. Yeah. Start at the first one.
Starting point is 00:18:49 But I love their 1999. And they've just got, there's a subway sketch, which is just them and a table. It's really like low production value and they're just talking about how to deal with the Jared Fogle situation. Yeah. Which I first saw that I was crying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Because it's so funny. Look, I'll just recommend one more sketch, and then we'll move on with our lives, for God's sakes. They have a sketch called Jambalam, which is a thing about it is, and the reason it's funny, James, if I could explain humour to you, a layman, is that it's a sketch about an app, and it's meant to be like a soft and nice and friendly sketch. We're developing a new app.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And the way that these sketches kind of goes, they all sort of naturally, like an app sketch, they all sort of naturally go a certain way. They're a little bit weird but they're also like we're corporate and we're corporate and professional. This sketch does not do that at all. No, absolutely not. It goes in a whole different direction.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I love it. And it's very indicative of apps, you know what I mean? That's absolutely right. It's bloody ribbon app culture. Anyway, congratulations to all them boys. I hope it gets two seasons, which is the maximum of things that people think. We're wishing you two seasons, Aunty Donna boys.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Oh, yeah, so Aunty Donna's big old house of fun, which is coming out very soon. Exciting. And off the back of that are things on Netflix, but this is cancelled, it turns out. Mindhunter Season 3. I thought you were going to say things that are cancelled. Aunty Donna's big old house of fun.
Starting point is 00:20:13 They had a chance. It's done. Yep, they blew it. So Mindhunter Season 3 is unlikely. David Fincher says working on Season 2 was like 90 hours a week for six to seven months. It's exhaustive, it's very expensive, and it didn't rate that well, which is the key thing. So Netflix are like.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Also, I got to two seasons. Yeah, exactly. So there's a whole lot of through lines that happen in that show that I really wanted to see through. I know BTK is like in it and, you know, there's personal relationships or whatever, but that's a massive shame that that is not happening. We'll never get to see BTK invent the BLT, which he does in real life.
Starting point is 00:20:47 That's true. And they caught him. He went to jail for it. And all his murders. It's like Al Capone. They didn't get him for the mafia stuff. They got him for the tax evasion. BTK, they got him for inventing the BLT.
Starting point is 00:21:01 The tomato's made the bread soggy. You're going to the big house. Tomato is not a good thing to have on a sandwich unless it's super fresh and it's got to be a specific type of ripeness of that tomato to make it happen. Anyway, life in the slammer. Good. And for the murders. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:15 So get ready to die quietly in the comfort of your own home, Mason. Oh, thank God. Because according to Bloomberg, Apple and Netflix are in talks for the next James Bond film, No Time to Die, to purchase it. Oh, I thought that was off again. Well, okay, here's the thing. Okay. So it's a $250 million movie.
Starting point is 00:21:34 You can make the joke. That's not a lot for a movie. Yeah, I know. It's crazy. I misspoke. Yep, that's the joke. So they marketed the hell out of it. James, what I was going to do was give you time for an edit point
Starting point is 00:21:48 to be put in and then so you didn't shame yourself for your misspeaking. That's what was happening there. Sometimes you see a good Isaac, James. That's true. Yeah. So they marketed the hell out of it multiple times. Hey, listeners, see if a movie would cost $250. It's a low price for a movie.
Starting point is 00:22:07 James has really embarrassed himself here. He's doing the thing where he's like, I'm laughing actually, but he's crying on the inside. I'm hurt. Yeah. Go on. They marketed it a lot. Folks, it's you and me against James.
Starting point is 00:22:22 What? That's right. That doesn't seem right. James can't hear us, though, so that's okay. I've got headphones on when we're sitting in the same room, but no, I cannot hear you. Okay, good. So the idea is that because they've marketed it twice
Starting point is 00:22:33 because it was supposed to come out earlier and then it was supposed to come out in November and that didn't work and now they're going to push it again to April or whenever it was supposed to be. So they're like, oh, boo, I'd imagine this is costing us a lot in marketing. So if you want to buy it on streaming, you have to pay for it twice. That's right. You pay for it once and then you wait four months
Starting point is 00:22:49 and then you get to pay for it again and then they'll finally let you watch it. But you can never, ever keep it. That's right. It's not a digital copy you can keep. That's right. Daniel Craig comes to your house and he deletes it personally. He's just happy to be not doing James Bond anymore. He's so happy to wipe any memory of that from everybody's mind.
Starting point is 00:23:05 But anyway, you were saying. Yeah, so the MGM maintain, though, that this is not for sale and that they want to preserve the theatrical experience, et cetera, and so forth. Okay. But here's the thing. Go on. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Yeah, we will, won't we? We'll see MGM. Because AT&T mentioned this week in some kind of investor call where they're like, everything's fine, but it's not fine. Everything's bad. That's the thing they don't know. They can't hear, but it's bad. That's right.
Starting point is 00:23:32 But in relation to Tenet, John Stanky said, I can't tell you that we walked away from Tenet saying that it was a home run. And they're basically also like, but we're glad that we did the experimental. No, you're not. You absolutely are not, no. Would you think you were going to save film?
Starting point is 00:23:47 You weren't. You couldn't save it if your life depended on it. So the other thing is apparently the money being thrown out of this is hundreds of millions of dollars, which makes me think $400 million, $500 million probably if you're covering all your costs. Games in a way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:02 That's a lot of money. It is, isn't it? So I don't know. I'm not saying it's definitely going to way. Yeah. That's a lot of money. It is, isn't it? So I don't know. I'm not saying it's definitely going to happen. Yeah. But I mean numbers in a lot of places in the US are going up. When Tenet came out and theatres were open in a lot of places, people still didn't go.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Yeah. I don't know what this is going to look like essentially. Anyway. Put it on Quibi. Put it on Quibi, mate. Ten minute chunks. That's it. Cut right in the middle of every action sequence. Yeah, but make sure you don't let anybody know that it's on Quibi. Put it on Quibi, mate. Ten minute chunks. That's it. Cut right in the middle of every action sequence.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Yeah, but make sure you don't let anybody know that it's on Quibi. That's right. That's what you're about. Apple also now, this is a different bit of news, they're going to do The Bride, which is inspired by the classic monster film Bride of Frankenstein. It stars Scarlett Johansson as the bride and it's described as a story centred around a woman who was created to be the ideal wife
Starting point is 00:24:49 by a brilliant entrepreneur, probably an Elon Musk type, when she rejects her creator because he's an Elon Musk type. Sure, sure, sure. But we're big fans, obviously. We've talked about that. I love that guy. Yeah. Love him.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Yeah, we love him. Listeners, secretly, we don't love Elon Musk. We don't like him that much. He sucks. Just between us. He sucks. Don't tell Mason, but we don't love him. Listeners, secretly, we don't love him. We don't like him that much. Just between us. Don't tell Mason, but we don't like him. So she's forced to flee her confined existence, confronting a world that sees her as a monster. While on the run, she finds her true identity, her surprising power,
Starting point is 00:25:19 and the strength to remake herself as her own creation. Do you think the surprising power she finds is emotional? Or do you think it's like lasers? Probably lasers. I hope so. I hope it's lasers. That'd be cool. It'd be cool, right? Emotional strength, God. The only strength I want to see is lasers. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:25:37 So that's cool, I guess. I mean, that falls in line with the modern updates they've been looking to do, starting with the Invisible Man. Yeah, I guess that's true, yeah. So I'd imagine she's not going to have all the weird hair. And she's not pieced together by different bits of skin and stuff, is she? Except in that Kenneth Branagh version, I think she was. Oh, I didn't say that one.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I can't remember. Yeah, okay. So I mean, but I guess my question then is why does she go on the run if she just looks like Scarlett Johansson? Because the guy's trying to find her. He's like, you're my wife. I'm Elon Musk. Wasn't there a bit about like she's on the run from the public
Starting point is 00:26:11 or whatever? They all think she's a real ugly girl. Confronting a world that sees her as a monster. Yeah, you're right. There you go. I reckon regular Scarlett Johansson bolts through the neck. Yeah, big hair with a lightning bolt through it. That's right.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Whatever's going on in that look. And there's a scene where she needs to get info on the Elon Musk type. Yeah. So she unscrews the bolt. She throws her head down like an air conditioning shaft so she can spy on him. But she's got a bit of fishing wire on her. I was going to say, because otherwise you'd have to return.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Yeah, I had to think on my feet there for a second. I knew you would ask. I knew you'd ask how she'd reel her head back in. You're all over it, mate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You need to bloody reel your bloody head back in there, mate. I'll tell you that much, mate. I'll you'd ask how she'd reel her head back in. You're all over it, mate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You need to bloody reel your bloody head back in. I'll tell you that much, mate. I'll bloody tell you that much.
Starting point is 00:26:48 So I wonder whether it will turn out that her- More than a bloody head. She's like a red, blue, blue, blue, blue. Do you think it's going to turn out that her creator is actually a Frankenstein? Oh, Elon Frankenstein. Yeah. A lot of people have pointed out- Muskenstein.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Muskenstein. Elon Muskenstein. That's good, yeah. But you know how people have also said that that it's not his name and whatever. But then people say that it is technically his name because he is a Frankenstein because his father's name is Frankenstein. But it could be like if he was an Elon Musk type that he was created by a Tesla type company to be the CEO.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Twists upon twists. Are they paying us to write this movie for them, James? They certainly aren't, Mason. I didn't think so. We've got good ideas. We've got good ideas. We have some. Speaking of good ideas.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Go on. Well, there was. Let's see if this is. I'm just going to be ruminating on bad ideas about this movie for a while. I'll just jump out with them later. You've already had a great idea with the head on the string. That's not my only idea, James. I've got many good ideas.
Starting point is 00:27:45 So Battlestar Galactica is getting a reboot according to Hollywood Reporter, but this is a movie and separate to the reboot of the show, I guess, which is happening. Wait, so we're getting two reboots? I guess. Of Battlestar Galactica, which itself was a reboot. Yeah, but also maybe this show isn't
Starting point is 00:28:02 rebooting anymore. Oh, I see. I don't know. Okay, yeah, sure, sure, sure. Every few years they're like, it's back, we're bringing it back. I don't know where we're at. But Simon Kinberg will write and produce. He's, of course, known for producing all of the X-Men films. Say what you will of that. Is he one of our famous bullet dodgers?
Starting point is 00:28:20 Yes, he is. Like he's done some good stuff and some bad stuff. Dark Phoenix, but like is that the worst X-Men or is that like par for the course X-Men at that point? That's a good point, yeah. You know, I don't necessarily think this is bad news, but I just think it's odd that they would do a movie because I don't know if it would
Starting point is 00:28:35 work as well. You have to explain the entire backstory of Battlestar Galactica. But then maybe do you do the original Cylon War? Because like the series, even though it's a reboot, is set like decades after the first Cylon War, like the series, even though it's a reboot, is set like decades after the first Cylon War, even though they're not connected or whatever. I should watch that series all the way through. Very good.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Because I didn't make it all the way through. It was because it was on TV at the time and I didn't know what time anything was on because they shifted constantly. It's cancelled. It's out of order. So I should definitely go back and watch that. You had that decade where your remote control was out of battery. That's right. I didn't know how to change it. I just kept switching them around to see if it worked.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Sometimes it did. It was crazy. Anyway, John McClane is back in a commercial for batteries or something. God. Some people were actually excited because they were like, John McClane is back. And some people were like, yes. But I'm like, if this isn't an ad, which it is, let's not.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Come on, yeah. So basically he meets up with a limo driver. From the first one. From the first one and he's up against the tech guy from the first one or something. Okay, sure. But everyone's much older so I'm like, I think that's the same actor but I can't tell at this point.
Starting point is 00:29:36 And it's as boring as anything he's ever done. Okay. Now is there car chases and gunfire? Yeah, there's car chases and he's, I mean, it's about your standard Bruce Willis stuff. It's probably there's a little bit more excitement in it than a lot of things. But also because you only need three minutes of content out of him.
Starting point is 00:29:52 That's true, yeah. You know what I mean? So he comes in all guns blazing. Generally speaking, he's got three minutes worth of acting in the tank. That's right. For any given production. Well, one of the movies he's in is like – now he's only in it for like 15 minutes or whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Yeah. So there you go. I know people wanted to mention it. So what is the narrative thrust? His car battery died and he has to get a battery for his car. So he gets the limo driver and he goes and gets the battery and he switches it over, but he's intercepted by the hacker from the first Die Hard.
Starting point is 00:30:22 He wants to do terrorism? Yeah, or to shoot John McClane. Or revenge. Yeah, but also you're late, mate. It's been 40 years. All right. You are late. He was just sitting back being like, well, maybe that helicopter will get him.
Starting point is 00:30:33 That's true. Maybe Russia will get him. It didn't, though, did it? It didn't. That's true. Maybe it did. I didn't finish that movie. But there you go.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Okay, terrific. Mason, John McClane may be back. Go on. It's something that is ending and not back, but it's not ending yet, so it's back. Deadline is saying that Fast and Furious is... Some people say your segues get worse. Who says that?
Starting point is 00:30:54 Hey, listen, it's me. They say your segues get worse as the night gets later, but I think that was a good segue, James. Thank you. I appreciate that. Fast and Furious is going to be coming to an end with movies 10 and 11, directed by Justin Lin, who's directed a bunch of these. So 9 is not out yet.
Starting point is 00:31:11 They pushed that back, obviously. They're unsure at this point whether The Rock or Jason Statham will return because they're doing their own spin-off movies. That being said, I'd imagine they'd probably make it happen for this clearly Avengers Endgame-insp inspired wrap-up to this series. Oh, my God. And by wrap-up I mean like end of a chapter. Do you think, yeah, yeah, do you think these are going to end with a bang?
Starting point is 00:31:34 Do you think it's going to be the biggest adventures ever? Yes. Okay, well. I think they're going to go all out. It is going to be your Avengers Endgame style cliffhanger where the bad guy turned out to be. Whoever, they all turned up. The VCR fence from the first movie.
Starting point is 00:31:51 The guy buying the DVD players. It's like it was me all along. Who can they bring back at this point where they're like, this guy, because they've turned most of them good. Good, yeah, right. Yeah, but there must be someone in there. What happened to Charlize Theron's character? She's back or good or bad.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I don't know. Okay, cool. I don't know. You know what? They should bring back Idris Elba. He'd come back probably. And he's in different movies? It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:32:15 It doesn't matter. He'd be a good bad guy. I guess they'd have to put up the whiteboard and they'd have to put up every villain that hasn't died in any of these. Yeah. And do you think they'd do like a triple X crossover? With Vin Diesel also? Double Vin Diesel.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Double Diesel. Double Diesel. Double Diesel. Loving that. Yeah. No. No, I don't think they would either. No, honestly, I don't think they would either.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Yeah, okay, cool. Yeah. Is this the first, will this be the first franchise? No, Mason, it won't be the first franchise. Turn it back on me. You don't like it. I joke that everybody gets sick of, but I'm doing it. Sorry, go on.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Do you think, is this the first franchise that'll get up to movie number 11 and they'll put 11 in the title? Because it's not the first 11th movie in a franchise because there's been Bond movies and that sort of stuff. Yeah, I see what you're saying. But just imagine going to the cinema for Fast and Furious 11. Well, they're not all numbered. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Though Fast 9 is Fast 9. Is Jason X, speaking of the Jason movies, is Jason X the 10th Jason movie? I think it might be, but no 11, except for Ocean's 11, which is canonically the 11th Ocean's movie. Well, that's true. But also Jason X, it might not be the 10th movie. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:23 I mean, it probably is. But I don't know. So I don't think they'll give it numbers. I think it'll be like Infinity War Endgame, name it. Yep. I think that's what it'll be, but I don't know. So Fast and Furious, Infinity War, Fast and Furious Endgame. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Why wouldn't you? Who's going to wield the hammer? Vin Diesel. But The Rock, maybe? Because they've got beef. They do it together. Lift it together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:45 They squash that beef and then they lift it together. They wouldn't get them on set together. And The Rock's holding up the hammer and Vin Diesel's underneath and he's being lifted up in the air. He wouldn't do that, Mason. He wouldn't do it. That's true. There'd have to be a line where they explain they're both of equal height.
Starting point is 00:33:59 They have to put the dialogue in like a bystander's like, they're both as tall as each other. Yeah, exactly. And they're both as good at fighting. And then it will flash to mug shots and they're both six foot four. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Snyder Cut News. Yes. This is via Collider. A couple of things. Joe Manganiello will return as Deathstroke. Now, if you remember, he was in the original, sorry, the Joss Whedon cut in a weird wig at the end on a boat. But also he filmed another post
Starting point is 00:34:27 credits prior to that, which presumably I guess they're doing different stuff with him, which could be a different post credits. Also, this is now four hours long, so there is more content for it. And on top of that, the Hollywood Reporter have said that Jared Leto is returning
Starting point is 00:34:43 as the Joker that everybody hates in their hearts. The worst one. That's right. That being said, again, as I said in the video that I made years ago about is he the worst, there's not enough of him to be like this is – I didn't really – I thought you meant is he the worst actor. No, he's not the worst actor.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Oh, like as a person, probably. But is he the worst actor? No, he's not the worst actor. Oh, like as a person, probably. But is he the worst joker? I mean, judged on like what we've seen of him, yes. Yeah. But with more, who knows? We don't know. David A was talking this week about how he's got his suicide squad cut and people are going to shit bricks.
Starting point is 00:35:20 It's incredible. But who knows where that is at this point in time. But so this has gone beyond just the Snyder Cut. It has to for four hours at this point. Yeah, there's got to be new stuff in here. And I know some people don't like hearing that, how it's his original vision and whatever, but it's clearly got to the point where.
Starting point is 00:35:35 The truth hurts sometimes. Well, I think this is a good thing, though, because he can expand on what he wants to do. So for good or ill, this is his. It's four hours of this. It's probably $600 million at this point. $70 million apparently. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:50 That's the idea. I meant total cost. Oh, yeah. You're right. Yep. That sounds about right. But, you know, it makes sense, I guess, because you need content for your HBO Max and whatever and you've got most of this sitting here.
Starting point is 00:36:05 I mean, they could knock out another season of Harley Quinn if they wanted to. Well, they are. They're doing that. Good, good. But the other thing is $70 million for a TV show of this caliber, I guess, isn't that much when you consider who's involved in the spectacle of it or whatever. That's, of course, if you discount everything that came before. You discount the fact that honestly
Starting point is 00:36:25 unlike a TV series a lot of this will be like I know what's going to happen in this I'm not going to be that surprised maybe imagine if you watched a full season of say Westworld, one of our TV series that we like and every episode you're like I know at least
Starting point is 00:36:42 50% of what's going to happen here that'd be a bad TV watching experience yeah you're like, I know at least 50% of what's going to happen here. Oh, cool. That would be a bad TV watching experience, right? Yeah, you're probably right, yeah. I don't know. We'll see. I'm interested and we can all shut up about it when it's done. But we won't. We can, but we won't.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Because then there will be the fan petitions to get him to come back and there will be two universes and whatever. I don't know. I don't know. Last bit of news. I don't know why I put this here, but Ben Wheatley is a director and he's going to be directing The Meg 2. It's based on the book The Meg, The Trench.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Is it really? I looked into it. The first one is? No, no. The second one is called The Meg, Colon, The Trench. Okay. The book continues the adventures of- Of The Meg?
Starting point is 00:37:21 No, Mason. The Meg was exploded or not. I don't remember. It probably was. There were two The Megs. There were two The Megs. Spoilers for the movie The Meg. For some reason, if you're the kind of person who watches movies like The Meg
Starting point is 00:37:37 and for some reason during quarantine and lockdown you haven't gotten to The Meg yet and you're mad that we're spoiling The Meg, a movie that came out years ago at this point. Last year maybe? I don't know. There were two The Megs. One was a bigger The Meg. The bigger The Meg? I remember thinking at the time this The Meg they've caught isn't that big of The Meg and then I'm like, ah!
Starting point is 00:37:58 There's a bigger The Meg! They got me! So the book continues the adventure of Jonas Taylor, who was probably Statham's character, a paleobiologist, studying the megalodon who discovers another. How did you get megalodon correct but not paleobiologist? Because I read a lot of dinosaur and shark books.
Starting point is 00:38:18 I guess you probably do. That's true, yeah. Who discovers another prehistoric monster, the chronosaurus. Have you seen that one? It's like a big, it's got flippers and it's kind of like a crocodile mouth. Can it travel through time? I don't think it does. Well, there's a hint for you, folks.
Starting point is 00:38:33 No doubt, yes. Time travel. Are you excited for more the Meg? Nope. Or Kronosaurus or whatever is happening here? Nope. What about Kronosaurus versus Meg? Two of the Megs.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Oh, that's not bad, actually, yeah. Yeah. You don't think they're going to get the Meg to fight the Kronosaurus versus Meg? Two of the Megs. Oh, that's not bad, actually, yeah. Yeah. You don't think they're going to get the Meg to fight the Kronosaurus? Well, I mean, they did explode the Meg, so if we recall. You don't think there's going to be another Meg at some point? Maybe they'll fire chunks of the Meg at the Kronosaurus. That's how you get them. Because only the Meg can penetrate the Kronosaurus?
Starting point is 00:39:00 Precisely, that's right. They figured it out. There's a special- Only the Meg can- There's a special type of ore in the – There's a special type of ore in the – There's a special type of ore. Oh, no, that's confusing because they'd think of ore like a boat's ore. They're like, boat's ore?
Starting point is 00:39:13 And he's like, no, like an alloy. Nice. Good, good, good. Anyway, you're welcome – I'm a paleo by the way. You're welcome once again. I'm 6'4 or so. Another movie studio. He's not. He's like 5'6. We've 6'4", also. Another movie studio.
Starting point is 00:39:25 He's not. He's like 5'6". We've written your movie for you. We've got to fire the Meg, the Kronosaurus. Maybe we'll wait. If he's going to come to us, we'll make him come to us. That's right. They always make him come to us.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And maybe they have to load the Meg into like an old-timey pirate cannon, like bits of the Meg, because they've uncovered a pirate ship. We've only got one shot of this. We've only got so much Meg to go around. We found this pirate ship. It's not even how he sounds, but it's how he sounds in our hearts. It's how he sounds.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Yeah, you're right. Oh, goodness. But also, like, you have to imagine It's how he sounds. Yeah, you're right. Oh, goodness. But it also, like, you have to imagine his face when he's saying it, like that bug-eyed look he's got sometimes. Just all the veins in his head pulsing, yeah. He's a very serious man. That's why I like him. Mason.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I've covered myself in the Meg guts. Crososaurus can't find me. It would have been the opposite. There's an alloy. Oh, yeah. There's an alloy. It would have been the opposite. There's an alloy.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Oh, yeah. There's an alloy. We should do these all night. I don't know whether this is good, but I'm having a good time. On May 10th, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes is coming to IMAX and theaters everywhere. What a wonderful day! This summer, one movie event will reign. It is our time.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Apes hunt humans. That is wrong. Bend for your king. Never. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Only in theaters May 10th. Tickets on sale now. of the Planet of the Apes.
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Starting point is 00:41:51 friends, by yourself, whatever you've got going on, mate. Make a family's worth of food. Eat it all yourself. That's what I like to do. Exactly. The recipes are easy to follow and they're quick to make with simple steps and pictures to guide you along the way. That's very helpful.
Starting point is 00:42:02 It's so helpful. Often I get lost and I'm like, where am I? Sometimes they're like quarter an onion and I'm like, what does that mean? Oh, into four, I see the picture. I just think like four horses pulling apart an onion. You know what I mean? Perfect, yeah, medieval style. I like it.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Yeah, but the pictures probably recommend another way of doing that, I assume. Yeah, probably donkeys. So it's also great value. You save 40% off when you use HelloFresh versus shopping at the grocery store and they deliver fresh, high-quality, pre-proportioned ingredients so you can make meals that are delicious and nutritious. And over 90% of the ingredients are sourced directly from growers to ensure peak flavor and ripeness.
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Starting point is 00:43:10 People are going to bloody love it, mate. I tell you that much. Oh, and it's cheesy crumbed. Cheesy crumbed, mate. Oh, my goodness. You can actually go to hellofresh.com slash weeklyplanet90, as in 90, and use the code weeklyplanet90 to get $90 off, including free shipping. That's hellofresh.com slash weeklyplanet90
Starting point is 00:43:27 and use code weeklyplanet90 to get $90 off, including free shipping. So many free meals. Yes, I agree. And that's good. I think it is good. On with the show. On with the show. Now, when the spooky season rolls around, I'm not talking about tax time,
Starting point is 00:43:42 often, you know, podcasts or YouTube channels or, like, people on Twitter will change their handle. They'll do, like, it's schlocktober. Nice. It's boo, but not October. Nice. So we need a name. I propose ox spook scare to boo.
Starting point is 00:43:59 To boo? Does that work? Yeah, of course it does. Or something like that. You know what I mean? Because they're all taken. But can you do that stumble every time we explain it? Ox, boob, scare, two, boo.
Starting point is 00:44:08 That doesn't work. I don't like it as much. Okay, fine. What do we need? We need something. No, I like that. I think it's good. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I'm not going to remember that. Anyway, so what are we talking, Mason? I know we talked about it up top. We're going to talk about TV shows and movies, which we often do. That's right. It's ox, spook, scare, two, boo already. But this time around, we're going to talk about the most cursed productions of all
Starting point is 00:44:32 time. Hollywood curses. I looked through this list though and it's like some of these are just like... Some of these are incredible. The first, I'm like, I'm aware of some because Shudder, I don't know if you're aware of the streaming service. I love Shudder. They did a series called Cursed Films where they talk about five, you know, I'm aware of some because Shudder, I don't know if you're aware of the streaming service. I love Shudder.
Starting point is 00:44:45 They did a series called Cursed Films where they talk about five, you know, they talk about five cursed films. What I'm saying is they've really gone in depth. When I first looked this up, I'm like, some of these are like the Seinfeld curse. Like what you look into, when you start looking into this, you sort of discover that people are very, and I understand the impetus, like people are very keen to put a curse
Starting point is 00:45:07 on almost anything. Yeah, exactly. Or ascribe almost anything to a curse to, you know, anything. They're like, oh, my God, the Seinfeld curse. After Seinfeld, none of the main cast had a successful, you know, next project. Until. Until they did.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Until they did. A lot of them did. They clearly like two years passed and they went, these people are all cursed. They've all had sitcoms and none of them worked, Veep. Veep and New Adventures of Old Christine. Yeah, exactly. And obviously, you know, Seinfeld makes $100 million a year
Starting point is 00:45:40 in syndication rights. He gets in a car with an old comedian and they go, I tell you what, they don't do comedy like we used to do. Kids these days, you know. And obviously they did that. And Jason Alexander, obviously, duck man. Duck man, yeah. And Michael Richards got to scream the N-word.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Which was his dream. Yeah, that's right, at a comedy club. It all got caught on video. It's not my dream. So it's not really a curse at all. No. So, yeah, I saw that one on the list because actually we've gone to TVTropes.org, which, by the way, we should do this every week
Starting point is 00:46:08 whenever we need a list. This is the most extensive thing I've ever seen. That's right. I noticed one of the first ones they mentioned here is the Superman curse, which people would think is, I mean, that ranges from, like, George Reeve was murdered and found in suspicious circumstances. Yeah, well, that's the thing, you're right. It's not just, like like the Christopher Reeves Superman,
Starting point is 00:46:26 although that is true. But yeah, George Reeves, yeah, he died. And it was a suspicious circumstance. I'm like, yeah, he was shot. That's pretty fucking suspicious, I would say. Yeah. But then they also, I mean, this doesn't say it here, but I know people have talked about, like,
Starting point is 00:46:41 and Brandon Routh never did another movie. It's like, he's fine. He's absolutely okay. He's absolutely okay. He's doing okay. Maybe the curse is lessening over time because death, paraplegic, which is fucking horrible, and then Brandon Routh's acting career took a little bit of a hit for like a minute. Sure, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:56 So the next person, who knows, nothing I'd imagine. So, yeah, Henry Cavill, he's fine. He's on The Witcher. Yeah, he's building PCs in his spare time. But they also talk about Margot Kidder, they talk about well, she had extreme mental illness. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Not as a result, but like this isn't a curse. But also Margot Kidder has said that for her you may as well say it's the Superman blessing because apparently one night she was in a car accident and she was like five feet away from veering off a cliff and she didn't.
Starting point is 00:47:27 And so she's like, well, you know, guess it works the other way around too because I didn't die from. Yeah, there you go. That's a good point. Cop that. Cop that. I mean, I think she has passed since. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Also, just FYI, by the final season of Seinfeld, all the other cast members were making $600,000 an episode. Do you think they're going to be all right? I think they're going to be okay still, yeah. Okay, terrific stuff. So I've got a list here of TV shows and movies that we're going to kind of skip around. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Skip, skip, skip. And skip over if they're not interesting. Totally. Yeah. Do you want to do Bewitched? Okay, sure. It's the spookiest season of the year, Mason. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Two Darrens. Two Darrens. Well, it says all three lead actors went on to die in the early 60s. I shouldn't laugh there, but it's a very old show. It's a very old show. So two of the three of them had cancer. They were all heavy smokers.
Starting point is 00:48:14 So is that a curse or you just smoked for a really long time? First came the two Darren actors, Dick York in 1992 from Emphysema, age 63. He was a replacement Dick Sargent in 1994 from prostate cancer. And Samantha, actress Elizabeth Montgomery from colon cancer, age 62. So, again, like, is it a curse? I mean, it's bad. Sure.
Starting point is 00:48:34 And it's a supernatural show. And that's often how they're, you know. But sometimes they're not. Like, this one is just like a list of people from Power Rangers who died. And it's very long. Because there's been 900,000 cast members. There's been 900,000 cast members in Power Rangers.
Starting point is 00:48:48 But one did kill his roommate with a sword, if you recall. Yeah, absolutely. Is that a curse? Is this going to be the same? Was it a cursed sword? They didn't mention whether it was a cursed sword. What we should do is we should have to determine with each of these. If it has a cursed sword?
Starting point is 00:49:02 Yes, or what's the cursed item? Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. Probably Elizabeth Montgomery's cursed nose. She was always going like. Wiggling about. Do you think any of the people who starred in the Bewitched reboot suffered? Who was in the Bewitched reboot?
Starting point is 00:49:16 Will Ferrell and Nicole Kidman. Was that a thing? Yeah, in like 2006 maybe. Wow. Yeah. You a fan? No. Yeah, it wasn't very good.
Starting point is 00:49:25 It was also set in the real world where they were rebooting Bewitched. And Nicole Kidman, why is that hard to say, she was a real witch. Okay. Is she the witch from the TV series? No. Okay, right. She's an independent witch from that show. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:43 So we're going to call it Independent Witch. Yeah, and they hired her to be in the show. Oh, not knowing she was magic? Yeah. Or knowing she was magic? Not knowing. And then they're like, you're a real witch. And she's like, straight up, it's true.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Nice. I haven't finished it, but it's not a good movie. I'd like to think that it's just on your Netflix queue. It's definitely not. Like, I haven't finished it, but I'm going to. I will. I do it a minute at a time because I don't want the magic of Bewitched to ever end. Oh, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:50:08 2005, sorry. I knew it was around that era. And that was also disappointing because that was the era when he's doing like Anchorman and all that stuff. So it's like Will Ferrell comedy. These always hit. Not that one. What have you got though as far as curses go, Mason? Oh, what about Brandon Lee? And Bruce Lee for that matter. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:50:23 See, that hits people hard and people are like, well. Hits them hard, hits them fast, like a Brandon or Bruce Lee. That's exactly right. Rapid fire. Yeah. Same with one of the movies. That's right. Brandon Lee, rapid fire.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Who's in it with him? I don't know. Doesn't matter. But anyway, they both died under mysterious circumstances. That's right. Bruce Lee had, did he have an aneurysm? He had a brain aneurysm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:43 And Brandon Lee was obviously killed in an on-set accident where a gun that was supposed to be blank. Was not blank. Was not blank or was, but there was a malfunction in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. And he ended up being killed. Should we look into it slightly more? I mean, that's what happened.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Well, that is true. Yeah. Yes. But I know people have made the argument of like, why would Bruce Lee die? Because he was incredibly healthy or whatever. But often with brain aneurysms, it doesn't matter. That is true, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:09 They can just hit you. You know what I mean? And I'm not sure what led to that in particular, but yeah. So I don't know if this is a curse, but it's certainly, what's cursed? Fists, maybe? I don't know. Yeah, the fists. The fists, okay.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Cursed fists. There you go. But anyway, at least they brought back Bruce Lee for a Mars bar commercial or something. And then more recently a vodka commercial. Two things that Bruce Lee notoriously loved, Mars bars and vodka. He loved a Mars bar soaked in vodka. That's what he loved.
Starting point is 00:51:40 He couldn't get enough. So there you bloody go. Get up his butt. Did he? Yeah, just to get the full experience. Both of them also had movies that were released post their death, one of which, the Bruce Lee version, was a horrible misuse of his footage. They'd barely shot any of it.
Starting point is 00:51:58 There's a moment where the double is sitting in front of a mirror and they've stuck on a cardboard Bruce Lee face onto the mirror. Oh, yeah, right. So like I was going to say it looks like he's there. It obviously doesn't. But they just used old footage and also had a stunt double who looked nothing like him in a wig and sunglasses. And, of course, Brandon Lee, they managed to finish The Crow
Starting point is 00:52:17 because they'd shot most of it and they filled the rest in with like, you know, CGI and whatnot to make that movie actually come together in a way that makes sense. So that's cool, I think, and Cursed Fists. I'm sure you've seen this, but this one I find fascinating, but it's a different kind of curse. Okay. It's for Blade Runner.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Yes. And you might be like, what's the curse thing about Blade Runner, the fact that the movies never do well? Yes, you're correct. But it's a brand curse. Oh, because all the brands that are in Blade Runner have since gone out of business, right? Atari went out of business. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Coca-Cola famously went out of business. Well, here's the thing. Apple computers, Microsoft, Facebook. They all went out of business. Well, the Coca-Cola one you mentioned. No, I'm just making these up. No, that's true. But Coca-Cola dipped because of New Coke.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Yeah. No, I'm just making these up. No, that's true. But Coca-Cola dipped because of New Coke. Right. Yeah. So another thing was, yeah, so Atari was involved in the great video game crash. That's true. And it never fully recovered. Yeah, it's not really a thing. It's more a logo for T-shirts now. Yeah, and they sell old consoles that people don't really want.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Yeah, yeah. Bell was broken up. Cusinart would go bankrupt in 1989 and acquired by Conair Corporation. It's like a blender. Oh, okay. Cuisinart is a blender. I didn't know that. What's it called? Cuisinart.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Cuisinart. Why is it with a C then? I don't know. Boo, I say. That's why it didn't do well. That's right. That was just the ad. How do we pronounce this? We don't know, but you should buy it, I guess. Look, it's blending. Look. It's great. We. It's great. We love it. You obviously don't.
Starting point is 00:53:49 And as an eerie coincidence, it says Rutger Hauer, who played Roy Batty, would die in 2019, the same year that he died when the original movie was set. Oh. I don't think that's a curse. I think that's just a thing that happened. So it's like a series of brands. Oh, we should determine whether something is a curse or just a thing that happened. Yeah it's like a series of brands. Oh, we should determine whether something is a curse or just a
Starting point is 00:54:06 thing that happened. We should give definitive rankings. Yeah, but the thing about this one is it's like the curse is a series of brands that went under or bounced back and a guy died. Right. Like, come on. No, I'm seeing a fairly consistent through line there. Rutger Hauer
Starting point is 00:54:22 isn't a brand, he's a man. That's true. Yeah, and apparently a very nice man, by all accounts. Our friend Hollywood Pete met him. Oh. Said he was fucking awesome. He loved to answer Blade Runner questions. Yeah, he was like, I'll talk about Blade Runner all day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:33 So yeah, that's cool. Because often people are like, I don't want to talk about Blade Runner, Harrison Ford. That's what I'm talking about. Sure, right. In particular. I imagine most stars in Hollywood probably want to talk about Blade Runner. Do you think? Yeah, because they love film.
Starting point is 00:54:44 I'm sure directors do as well. Yeah, they would. Directors who didn't direct Blade Runner, they want to talk about Blade Runner. Do you think? Yeah, because they love film. I'm sure directors do as well. Directors who didn't direct Blade Runner, they want to talk about how much of an influence it is on them and what their favourite cut is. Yeah, of course. And you're like, God, shut up. Shut up. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:54:56 We don't care about your bloody remake of Ghost in the Shell or whatever. You know what I mean, Mason? Yeah, I know what you mean exactly. What have you got, though? Here's one. This is new to me. The Passion of the Christ is apparently cursed. Not monetarily.
Starting point is 00:55:10 No, it did well. It made so much money. But it's because Jim Cavizio, who played Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour, and assistant director Jan Michelini were both struck by lightning. I did hear that. For Michelini, it was the second time he'd been struck during production. He was struck by time he'd been struck during production.
Starting point is 00:55:25 He was struck by lightning twice. I don't even know if this is live. No, twice in the one shooting. Oh, my God. Were they filming on top of a hill? Yeah, they were filming on top of a hill. Were there metal rods in the cross? No, this was the Sermon on the Mount scenario,
Starting point is 00:55:41 so he's not even been crucified at this point. Oh, really? He's playing golf. Regular golf or like Bible era golf? Ninja golf. You remember the Atari game? Ninja golf. Have you seen that new Australian show?
Starting point is 00:55:54 It's called Holy Moly. Have you seen the ad for that? Nope. The grand final was this week. It's a reality show. Yes. Well, the grand final was this week in Australia, which is like it's a big sport game.
Starting point is 00:56:02 It's a Super Bowl, but it was good. It's a Super Bowl, but yeah. So there's commercials because my son was watching it as well. And a commercial started and he's like, what is this? Oh, because he's never seen that before. He's never seen it, but I'm like, oh, it's like a thing. It was like a plant or something. It's like a thing that they show you and then it's like if you want to buy it.
Starting point is 00:56:21 And he's like, I don't want to buy this. I'm like, yeah, no one does. No one does. This actually don't work. System is failing, yeah. It's ast, I don't want to buy this. I'm like, yeah, no one does. No one does. This actually don't work. System is failing. Yeah. It's astounding it's lasted this long. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Anyway, my point was, what were we talking about? The Sermon on the Mount. Golf. No, Holy Moly. I saw an ad for Holy Moly, which is like Wipeout, but miniature golf. Okay, sure. So you have to play golf while people are pushing you off things. Pretty much.
Starting point is 00:56:42 And it was Matt Shervington. If any production is going to be cursed, it's holy moly. It was Matt Shervington. The other host really surprised me. Matt Shervington is an athlete of some sort. Yeah, he was a runner. Okay. He was an Olympic sprinter.
Starting point is 00:56:57 This is incredible. It is. It's going to blow your mind. Okay. Rob Riggle. It's Matt Shervington and Rob Riggle. American actor Rob Riggle. Because that happens every now and then.
Starting point is 00:57:06 They'll fly somebody in and they'll be like, Jason Derulo's on The Voice, I guess, or whatever. Yeah, right, right, right. So that's how that goes. Anyway, what were you saying? Rob Riggle. Rob Riggle. What were you saying before I cut you off?
Starting point is 00:57:16 Sermon on the Mount. Yeah. They both got lightning bolted. Did anything else happen in that? Nope, just that. That's just lightning strikes. I mean, Mel Gibson. Yeah, Mel Gibson.
Starting point is 00:57:24 I imagine the item that was cursed was Mel Gibson. Yeah, Mel Gibson. I imagine the item that was cursed was Mel Gibson. Oh, my understanding is the funding of that, nobody wanted to fund it, so he funded it himself, and then it made like half a billion dollars. Yeah, so he's not a fan. It made him very rich. Yeah, yeah. Because there's a lot of But that's made him a bad person. I think he was already. It's made him a worse person.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Okay then. Yep. This one to me is fascinating, and I read this before the show and I'm like, whoa, never heard of it, but whoa. Go on. And it's not a curse and you'll see why. Okay. It's just a series of horrible things that happened.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Go on. It's called The Conqueror, which was a movie with John Wayne. It says most notably superbly miscast. So I think it's the one where he plays Genghis Khan, if I had to guess which it is. So everybody who worked on this was diagnosed with cancers and leukemia
Starting point is 00:58:12 until somebody pointed out well not everybody but a bunch of people the common link to the film that was realised because it was shot in the deserts of southern Utah and not far away and more importantly down wind from a nuclear test site in Nevada. Even worse, they trucked radioactive dirt from the desert back to Hollywood
Starting point is 00:58:33 to finish off the sets they were building. Wow. To keep the continuity. Yeah. The clusters of cancers was due to having lived and worked on a film set where the fallout was a densest. This is unique. This is unique. This is unique.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Well, yeah, it is. And caused the curse 30 years on. So it's not a curse. It's they all got radiation poisoning. Wow. So there you go. But in this instance, the cursed item, obviously, John Wayne. Yeah, it's his fault.
Starting point is 00:58:59 The draft dodging. You don't think it's the dirt? No, it's John Wayne. Yeah. We talked about that recently in the first Dread we did. Maybe, yeah. I think so, yeah. Also this week we're doing bloody Star Wars stuff, aren't we?
Starting point is 00:59:09 We did some flying war stuff. I think most of this episode is going to be less curses and more just horrible bad luck on movie sets. Absolutely. What else have we got? How about The Omen? 1976, The Omen. Okay, how about this?
Starting point is 00:59:25 Speaking of lightning, the scriptwriter's plane was hit by lightning. So's was Gregory Peck's plane was struck by lightning, as I guess they were flying in, as was the executive producer's plane. Oh, my goodness. Three lightning strikes on three planes. But, I mean, I guess that makes me wonder, how often are planes struck by lightning? That's a great question.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Like maybe every time you get on a plane they get struck by lightning. Yeah, you might be right. And it just grounds out somehow or dissipates. Yes. Let's see. The producers, Mace Newfield, great name. That's a great name. Just quietly.
Starting point is 00:59:57 A hotel he was staying at during production was bombed by the IRA. Oh, my God. As was a restaurant the director and the actors were scheduled to eat at. One of the film's tiger handlers died. From the tigers? Doesn't say. I think. Gregory Peck's son shot himself.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Whoa. A plane scheduled for use in the film, which was rescheduled and used for a commercial flight, instead crashed and killed everyone on board. After it was struck by lightning? Presumably, as they all are. An assistant to special effects consultant John Richardson on Friday the 13th crashed his car in Holland. His assistant was sliced through by the car's front wheel.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Scrambling out of the wreckage, Richardson looked up and saw a road sign, Oman, 66.6 kilometres away. It's wild stuff. What was cursed? Probably Gregory Peck. Maybe the lightning. Maybe the lightning, I guess. Gregory Peck, you think? Yeah, probably Gregory Peck. Definitively cursed? Probably Gregory Peck. Maybe the lightning. Maybe the lightning, I guess. Gregory Peck, you think?
Starting point is 01:00:47 Yeah, probably Gregory Peck. Definitively it was Gregory Peck. Yeah, that makes sense to me. I know The Exorcist has a similar list of things that happened, which I can go to. Again, troubled production. People felt that the devil himself must have inflicted these kinds of damages. So Aline Burstrand suffered a lifelong crippling spinal injury
Starting point is 01:01:08 when a special effects doctor. Are you saying Ellen Burstron? What did I say? I don't know. Burstron. Ellen Burstron, yeah. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:14 It's late, Mason. I know. I can't read and I probably need glasses probably. Certainly, yeah. So that would mean you are farsighted. I don't know. Okay. I can actually see this fine.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Okay, then. But my eyes do hurt because I'm not wearing my bloody blue, bloody – I should have been putting them on. They really help. The wire she was on, which was to simulate her possessed daughter, threw her across the room ten times the expected force, badly injuring her back. Linda Blair went on to develop mental illnesses,
Starting point is 01:01:43 which some people thought was a result of demonic possession. So there was a Roman Catholic priest who was on set, an actor's like a chaplain and counsellor. So he talked about how there was very much fear on set from the cast and crew about the subject matter. That's not really like a curse. That's like a guy going spooky things. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:04 So Jason Miller, who played the exodus father, the father Karis, lived in a Jesuit seminary to totally immerse himself in the role. They gave him a protective amulet because there was trouble ahead and two days later Miller's eldest son was critically injured in a road accident. So, yeah, it's just a series of kind of things like that. And they talk about even the sequels had their problems or whatever.
Starting point is 01:02:29 So there you bloody go, mate. It's just like, I don't know, I feel like a lot of these are production troubles though. Well, that's what this, James, we don't, there's no definitive until we title this episode, there's no way of saying that's wrong. Yeah. It's cursed film slash bad production.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Production troubles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, here's the thing. Tell me if this is a curse. Okay. The film Atuk, a comedy about an Inuit emigrating to New York, never got finished because John Belushi died of a drug overdose shortly after reading the script.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Sam Kinison was cast next. He died in a car crash. John Candy took the role, died of a drug overdose shortly after reading the script. Sam Kinison was cast next. He died in a car crash. John Candy took the role, died of a heart attack. Chris Farley opened talks to play the lead and died from a drug overdose. This is in a pretty short window as well. Yeah. Those guys. Right?
Starting point is 01:03:15 I know, Belushi was the 80s, wasn't he? Yeah. Yeah, right. Oh, okay. Yeah, maybe. But also, there's a lot of movies where a series of people don't die and then they make the movie. That's true, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:24 So I think it's really like a numbers game. In a way, yes. And that often doesn't happen. But also it's probably a curse and whatever. I think it's definitely a curse, yeah. Okay, cool, cool, cool. Speaking of horror movies though, Rosemary's Baby from 1968, the first point here is Roman Polanski's career suffered
Starting point is 01:03:40 a personal nosedive after making this movie. Because he's a pedophile. Because he's a pedophile and he had to flee to France and he still hasn't had any comeuppance for that thing that he did. So that's probably part of it. But he did, of course. Do you think the cursed object is Roman Polanski, the pedophile? Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Yeah, I think so too. It says he escaped the massacre on his wife, Sharon Tate, which, of course, we recently saw in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and five others because he was in London at the time. The film's composer died of a brain clot one year after making the film. Producer William Castle nearly died of kidney failure shortly after the film was completed. And he was heard reciting lines from the movie while in a near-death coma,
Starting point is 01:04:21 such as, for God's sake, Rosemary, drop that knife. Oh. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Wow. Maybe he was just talking about the surgery. For God's sakes, Rosemary, that's Rosemary's baby you're holding there. They added it. Don't you know.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Yeah, that's right. So there you go. Oh, baby, that's Rosemary's baby, baby. Yeah. What else we got? Oh, Fantastic Four. There's a Fantastic Four curse, James. Isn't this just a series of movies that didn't happen or were bad? And were bad.
Starting point is 01:04:50 That's the thing, yeah. The Roger Corwin film was set for a 1994 release, but Constantine Films viewed it as an Ashcan copy and never released it. Not a curse, just a bad movie, and they did it for weird financial contractual reasons. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's why. The 2005 film and its sequel were both panned by critics.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Yeah, they were bad. They were bad. They were bad movies. And they made money. Not a curse. And they made money. Just bad movies. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:16 The 2015 film fared worst of all, being yet another glorified Ashcan copy. That's the copyright thing. Sure. Affected by executive meddling, marred by director Josh Trank's erratic behavior causing him to get fired from several projects he was previously attached to. It received worse reviews than any of the aforementioned Fantastic Four movies. It's a bad movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:36 It's not a good movie. What's the curse? Simon Kinberg. Yep. That is true. Or maybe not. We don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Yeah, okay. Probably though. No, that's just. Yeah. They haven't made a good one yet. That is true. Or maybe not. We don't know. Yeah. Probably, though. No, that's just they haven't made a good one yet. That's true. Because you could be like, well, Dread's a curse because the first one was bad and the second one didn't make money. Oh, do you think we could start one? Do you think we should come up with our own?
Starting point is 01:05:55 Dread be cursed. Our own curse this time around. That's a great idea. Let's curse. Oh, we're thinking of one. I've got one here. Okay, go on. Which I think is just an on-set accident.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Okay. It's from The Return of the Musketeer in 1998. A British character actor, Roy Kinnear, was fatally injured on set when a formerly placid horse he was riding, one sort suitable for the actor, became uncontrollably wild and galloped away, eventually bucking, eventually, I imagine this is like, how long is he on the horse for, like an hour and a half?
Starting point is 01:06:22 Right. Eventually bucking him off into a wall. Oh. He died a day later from complications to a broken pelvis. Wow. So that's unusual, maybe? Very. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:34 He's cursed pelvis. He's cursed pelvis, yeah. Kinnear's family successfully sued. Yep. For negligence. Director Richard Lester was so shaken from the incident. He directed Superman 3 and other movies. He's like, that's another bloody curse.
Starting point is 01:06:47 He worked many times with Kinnear and considered him a friend, that he retired prematurely from the film business despite a series of successes. Yeah, that would make sense because that would be very traumatising. Is he related to Rory Kinnear in any way? I do not know. Let me find out for you. Please.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Roy Kinnear? Roy Kinnear. I know this guy. Roy Kinnear? Roy Kinnear. I know this guy. Yeah, children. Rory Kinnear. There you go. Yeah, he's from like the Black Mirror one, the worst one. Not the worst, but like the most traumatic. It's the pig one. Are you sure? Yeah, yeah. And he's in the Bond
Starting point is 01:07:18 movies also. Yeah, he's in Bond movies, but that's what I remember. Okay, cool. Yeah, I totally remember Roy Kinnear. I remember him from a bunch of stuff. But this, James? I'm ready. Do you remember the movie Raw? No. It's got totally remember Roy Kinnear. Yeah. I remember him from a bunch of stuff. But this, James? I'm ready. Do you remember the movie Raw? No.
Starting point is 01:07:28 It's got Melanie Griffith in it. I do know this one. This is just poor management of a movie. Yeah, this is a movie from the 80s. Didn't Dugan do an episode of this as well? I think they did, yeah, but I've always loved just the idea of it. It's about a naturalist who lives in a nature preserve in Africa with lions and tigers and et cetera. Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:43 His family visit him and they're confronted by the animals. Like 70 people were horribly injured. Yeah. During the production of it, including like many of the stars. There was a flood that destroyed most of the set apparently. Okay. Yep. And it's just the best, I think.
Starting point is 01:08:00 It's just the best. It was just the best. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. People got mauled a lot, didn't they? The family sold their houses to pay for the production of it
Starting point is 01:08:09 because they had to feed all the animals and it cost like thousands of dollars a week. Some Tiger King shit going on here. Yeah, yeah. Well, exactly, yeah. Yeah. Have you seen that movie? Not all of it.
Starting point is 01:08:20 I've seen some of it. This is an interesting one that I never thought about but it makes so much sense. Go on. Most of the Roald Dahl. I've seen some of it. This is an interesting one that I never thought about, but it makes so much sense. Go on. Most of the Roald Dahl. I'm going to leave you. What's cursed? Melanie Griffiths.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 48 injuries within two years of the start of filming. So they filmed it over an extraordinarily long time. Well, when you film something for two years and there's a bunch of fucking tigers running around. At least 70 people were injured, but John Marshall said that he believed
Starting point is 01:08:46 the number of people injured was actually over 100. He was bitten through the hand when he interacted with male lions during a fight scene. Through the hand. Through the hand. Doctors initially feared that he might lose his arm. Cursed hand. Yeah, he suffered eight puncture wounds on his leg
Starting point is 01:08:59 caused by a lion who was curious about his makeup. He had some anti-reflection makeup on him for the cameras or whatever and the lion was just like, oh, I'll take a bite out of that. That looks delicious. He had already been bitten 11 times before that. That's quite a lot of times. His face and chest were injured. He was diagnosed with blood poisoning.
Starting point is 01:09:17 He got gangrene. Tippi Hedren was bitten in the head by a lion during a promo shoot. In the head. Not through the head though, so that's good. Well, the teeth scraped against her skull, apparently. Cool, that's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was then admitted to a different hospital
Starting point is 01:09:31 after the five-ton elephant picked her up and fractured her ankle with his trunk before bucking her off his back. She said that the elephant had been trying to keep her from falling and was not at fault. Disagree. You think he did it on purpose? I don't think you should write elephants.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Evil elephant. Yeah, well, exactly, right? Several days earlier, the elephant had bucked his trainer into a tree and broken her shoulder. Yeah, but it wasn't the elephant's fault. Yeah, exactly. Didn't mean to do it. Griffith received 50 stitches after being attacked by a lioness
Starting point is 01:10:00 who was feared she would lose an eye. But she didn't lose an eye. She didn't. She's got two eyes still. A lion jumped on John Marshall, bit the back of his head, et cetera. Have you heard Claire's horrific eye story, what happened to her eye? No. We'll do it on Suggestible, my less successful podcast. Great, cool.
Starting point is 01:10:17 But, yeah, she had a really horrific eye injury when she was a child. It's fine and you wouldn't know and her vision's fine, except she needs glasses. No, but, yeah, we'll talk about Uns she needs glasses. No, but yeah. We're talking about Unsuggestible. Okay, do it, please. Okay, cool. Message Claire on Twitter at Mrs. Sunday Movies.
Starting point is 01:10:35 She hates that Twitter handle. She's like, why did I choose this? And I'm like, you should change. Well, you better watch out when she does change it. That's right. To Mr. Mesa Movies. No! She'll change it To Mr. Mesa movies. No. She'll change it to Mr. Sunday movies. I'm divorcing you.
Starting point is 01:10:53 Then you've got to watch out. So this I've never thought about, but it's fascinating. Go on. Most of the Roald Dahl adaptations tank. Right. So there's Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. That made $25 million. That is one of the exceptions.
Starting point is 01:11:05 And also that's obviously grown in cult status over the years. But there's a bunch of other ones as well that haven't done super well. There was a Danny the Champion of the World adaptation in the 80s with, I think it might have been a TV adaptation. I'll check that. What's the bad guy from Die Hard 3? Oh, Jeremy Irons. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:23 It might have been a telly movie. Yeah, so that was a TV movie, so I guess that doesn't count. But James and the Giant Peach in 1996 made $28 million. The Witches in 1990 made $10 million. Matilda made $33 million. The BFG, which came out a couple of years, oh, it's fantastic, Mr. Fox made $46 million. Okay.
Starting point is 01:11:41 The BFG made $64 million, and that was an incredibly expensive Spielberg property, if you remember it. And of course the Witches recently went to HBO Max, so that doesn't have a box office. A lot of these are good or good-ish. The
Starting point is 01:11:57 more recent Charlie and the Chocolate Factory did quite well. That made 475 million, so that's like the massive exception. But yeah, it's interesting that a lot of those books are so beloved but the curse is um the curse is nerds only love to read that's right exactly nothing nerds nerds god yeah so there you go people of course i know about the glee curse a number of people who have been involved in that have i love there which is which is sad but i mean some of I mean, some of the elements of the glee curse are people died of an accidental drug overdose.
Starting point is 01:12:28 But one of the elements of the glee curse is Lea Michele would eventually receive accusations that a character's bad attitude was a pretty good reflection of her real-life personality. Whoa! What a curse. That's a massive curse. What a curse for Lea Michele. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:41 But she got bloody raked recently, yeah. It says here, Titanic, the 1943 anti-British Nazi Germany propaganda film had a number of things that happened after it. But also that came out during World War II and then Germany lost the war. So I'd imagine
Starting point is 01:12:57 a lot of these are like ship related. They're like, and then this ship sunk and whatever. And it's like, well, yeah, it's wartime, isn't it? Right. Yeah. This is a good one to end on, Mason. The Wizard of Oz. Bubby Ebsen.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Oh, the original Wizard of Oz. Is there another one? Yeah, there's like Return to Oz or whatever. It doesn't matter. Oz the Great and Powerful. Yeah, I saw that. The most cursed of all. Buddy Ebsen, the first actor to cast as a tin man,
Starting point is 01:13:21 was hospitalized after inhaling aluminium powder, aluminium powder for our American listeners, powder, sorry, that was used for his make-up, forcing the role to be recast with a safer metallic grease paint. Nice. Which probably also killed him. Both Margaret Hamilton as the Wicked Witch of the West and her stunt double, Betty Danko, were seriously injured
Starting point is 01:13:43 in separate accidents involving pyrotechnics used for the witch's appearances and disappearances. That was the time when they were just like, just use a stick of dynamite. Yeah, exactly, right? You know? So, you know. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Four months after the film was released, Frank Morgan, who played the wizard, was involved in a serious car accident. A chauffeur house servant, okay, was killed in December of 1939, smashed in New Mexico, and Frank's wife Alma was injured. Frank and his son George escaped unharmed. And like Linda Blair, Judy Garland's post-child star life was plagued with depression, mental illness, and other calamities. Someone said the curse even encompassed her daughter Liza Minnelli.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Looking at this, though, except for the car accident, this is like they made movies fucking horribly. Yeah, well, exactly. Well, they still do occasionally, but there's no regulations for anything. No, exactly right. Nobody's getting paid. All these people are locked into horrible studio contracts and drugged up. Well, I was going to say like Judy Garland.
Starting point is 01:14:40 I think it's probably, you know, they were like, oh, you're feeling a little tired, Judy Garland, because you're a child working on this movie. Here, have some drugs. Yeah, that's it. That'll pep you right up. So, you know, all of this again, it's like, what's the curse? MGM.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Absolutely. Yeah, they're behind a lot of these curses, I think. They certainly are. Wow. So they're sort of out of business though, aren't they? Yeah, good. You know, they've been ebbing and flowing. What about Bond?
Starting point is 01:15:02 Isn't that MGM? Yeah, sort of, but other people own it. I don't know who owns MGM at the moment. The Broccoli Boys. That's right. Broccoli Boys. That was Barbara Broccoli, I should point out. Well, yeah, it's the Broccoli Boys and Big
Starting point is 01:15:17 Barb Broccoli. It's the gang. The Broccoli Gang. I just imagine like big broccoli flat cakes. Of course you do. just imagine like big like broccoli flat caps. Of course you do. Because that's what it is. That's why no one takes them seriously because that's what they are. Anyway, so I mean there's others obviously,
Starting point is 01:15:32 but that's a bunch of them I feel. I don't feel it is. People are always, they run in fear when the broccoli boys chop. They're like, we're here and we're steamed. We're steamed broccoli. That's the worst way to eat broccoli. I think raw broccoli is better than steamed broccoli. I think steamed broccoli is very good.
Starting point is 01:15:52 I think you can do it another way. You get a little bit of salt and pepper and oil, chuck that in the oven, mate. Oh. It's feeling pretty good about itself. Not bad. Not bad. All right, do you know what it's time for then?
Starting point is 01:16:01 Oh, is it time for what we're eating? Yeah. And then what we're going to read. Yeah. Then you put in the theme song before I say anything. That's right. Okay, nice. I get it.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Here we go. I'm doing the theme. What are we, Westworld, today? All right, Mason. You son of a bitch. Yeah, thanks. We're in the what we're reading segment. That's true, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:21 I got a few things. Oh, cool. I'm back on the Discovery train, the Star Trek Discovery train. I'm also. Your season is out. I watched the first episode, but I haven't watched the second episode. And you know what? I like it.
Starting point is 01:16:32 I like Star Trek Discovery. I think it's a good show. I think I'm definitely not on the hate Star Trek Discovery bandwagon. Yeah. I mean, there are good episodes and not good episodes. The Harry Mudd episode with Rainn Wilson is an example of a very good one. But this new season takes it into the future so it's not constrained by all the mythos it has to work in.
Starting point is 01:16:51 But I think a lot of people will be like, well, that's hardly Star Trek then, is it? Because they've taken it away from the mythos. But every new Star Trek is hardly Star Trek, Mason. That's true, yeah. Well, see, that's the thing. I feel like as a lifelong Trekkie slash Trekker, not really, but I've watched them all, I feel like there are a lot of people out there going,
Starting point is 01:17:10 this isn't Star Trek, and I'm like, it is Star Trek. You say you're not Star Trek. I could say that, couldn't I? You could throw it right in their face. I enjoy the fact that the Star Trek universe isn't a utopia everywhere. No. It's kind of like there are pockets of, you know,
Starting point is 01:17:26 it's a big universe and there are pockets of selfishness and malice and evil and all around the thing and people make mistakes and that kind of thing. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, the Federation exists to, like, enforce, you know, rules and shit as well. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:39 They're not just there to be like, everyone's doing a great job, that's why we have all these warships. That's exactly right. And there's always a rogue general. No, they're exploratory starships, James. They just happen to be filled with phasers. That is a bunch of bullshit, mate. I'll tell you that much.
Starting point is 01:17:51 I'll tell you that much. It's like when, you know, when people come to Australia and they're like, we're here to bring peace and settle this land, but we're also going to shoot everybody here. You know what I mean? I know exactly what you mean. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:01 So, yeah. But, yeah, and look, it has kind of changed premise a few times over the course of the series. And like, you know, status and season two, they're like, let's make it more like the original series and bring in Captain Pike and et cetera. Yeah, I like that element. And then at the end of that series they went,
Starting point is 01:18:17 and that ship disappeared into the future and let's not put it in any of our records. Yeah. Do you remember that bit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, you know. And again, yeah, but again, I like the idea? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, you know. Look, and again, yeah, but again, I like the idea that they're sort of playing with continuity and, you know.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Fast and all loose. Yeah, and they're like, Spock, never mention the mirror universe. Don't do it. So when you encounter the mirror universe later in your life, just don't, just, just, schtum. Schtum, Spock. What's schtum? What is that?
Starting point is 01:18:42 It's like a bit of shush. In what language? Like British. Really? Yeah, I think so. I think it's German. I think it's German, is that? It's like a bit of shush. In what language? Like British. Really? Yeah, I think so. I think it's German, but they say it in like Dad's Army or whatever. Oh, okay, yeah. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:18:50 Stum. Okay, cool. Probably said in Indiana Jones as well. No doubt. Yeah. So you're into it. And Lower Decks was good as well. Sorry?
Starting point is 01:18:58 Well, I liked Lower Decks. Yeah, it is good, yeah. There you bloody go, mate. I watched Borat, Second Borat. I hear it's really good, but I haven't gotten to it yet. It's fine. Oh, okay. I hate to be the guy that's like.
Starting point is 01:19:10 You love to be that guy. You're always that guy. I'm not always that guy. I feel like I'm more positive than ever. But, no, I think a lot of people are like, you're not hard enough on things. Oh, yeah, right. Because a lot of things I'm just like, yeah. This is okay, you say to yourself.
Starting point is 01:19:23 Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong. It's got some very funny'm just like, yeah. This is okay, you say to yourself. Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong, it's got some very funny moments. Yeah, yeah. But it's 97 minutes long, but to me it feels like there's filler in it. I see. And what I didn't like about it was there's the skits which I enjoy when they're like with real people, but then they'll do like little acting moments and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Oh, I see, right. And the woman, I don't have her name, but who plays his daughter is amazing. Maria Bacaluma. Yeah, that's right. And they're having like these moments and like because there's a through line of their father-daughter relationship. But for me, I'm like in this movie, Sacha Baron Cohen goes and lives with like some QAnon conspiracy theory
Starting point is 01:19:59 type dudes in a cabin for days and doesn't break character. Right, yeah. And I'm like, what't break character. Right, yeah. And I'm like, what was that like? Sure, yeah. Do you know what I mean? That scene with Rudy Giuliani as well, show me the behind the scenes as you're watching that unfold. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:20:18 And do you know what? I do know the background of that, but based on you've seen the scene, is he just tucking his shirt in? No. I didn't think so. I mean, look, the argument could be made. Go on.
Starting point is 01:20:34 But, I mean, you could say that. He has. And there's no way to prove definitively that that's not what's happening. Sure, right. But everything in the lead up to that moment. that that's not what's happening. Sure, right. But everything in the lead up to that moment.
Starting point is 01:20:50 And look, it's not illegal because she's 25 and he didn't know she was supposed to be 15. Like that's, like it's just, it's very creepy. I bet. It's a creepy myth. But watching that scene and a lot of this movie, I didn't come away going like I've learnt something new. I'm just like, yep, he sucks. I know.. I know.
Starting point is 01:21:05 Like, I know. Yeah. So, no, it was – but the problem with that scene is, though, I guess what you could glean from it is he's very obviously could be compromised. Oh, yeah, definitely. It's very easy to blackmail and film in a very precarious situation. The fact that this was done for entertainment purposes
Starting point is 01:21:23 just shows how easy it could be. If Sacha Baron Cohen wasn't a filmmaker and was instead an operative from another country who wanted to, in a way he is I guess, to ruin the country, he could do that. Because people are like, well if Borat could do it,
Starting point is 01:21:39 who else could do it? Like an actual trained intelligence professional could probably do it. But at the same time, that is selling short how smart Sacha Baron Cohen actually is. And the team that he has around him. I haven't gone around to it, but people recommended The Spy. You recommended The Spy. I haven't... Wait, no, I haven't recommended that.
Starting point is 01:21:56 It's a drama that he's in. Oh, I think we've talked about it. He's a good actor too. There you go. Again, behind the scenes stuff, but it's... Look, I know some people are like, don't get political, but it's fucking Borat 2. Right.
Starting point is 01:22:11 Like what am I supposed to talk about? Exactly. And so, yeah, watch it obviously. You've got Prime, so check it out. That's true. Here's a couple of things. Here's something that I saw on Instagram. Listener of the show Tyler, got a Weekly Planet tattoo.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Oh, yeah. That's on my Instagram if you want to look at that, NickMaso, M-A-S-E-A-U. I believe his partner is a tattoo artist. She's poison underscore ivy underscore art 94. Oh. And she had a cancellation, a booking cancellation, so the partner stepped in and was just like, I'll get a tattoo. Whatever that person was going to get, give it to me.
Starting point is 01:22:49 I'll get that. Oh, a Weekly Planet tattoo. All right, I'll do it. I guess I'll do it. Yeah. So congratulations. Incredible. It looks great.
Starting point is 01:22:55 Yeah, it does look great. Enjoy it. And it's based on Bianca Kay's art. She did a little picture of our avatars leaping for some gems. That's right. It looks like a Goonies-esque kind of. Yeah, yeah, but in the tattoos instances, we're leaping for some gems. That's right. It looks like a Goonies-esque kind of. Yeah, yeah, but in the tattoos instances, we're leaping for a sandwich.
Starting point is 01:23:09 That's right. A big sandwich. I was going to say, how big's a sandwich? But here's the thing. This is the thing that I've watched this week and by watched I mean listened to. So friends of the show, Cam and Alexi, who people might know, they have a lot of podcasts about films,
Starting point is 01:23:22 Total Reboot and Mic Check. And last year they released a podcast called Finding Drago, which if you haven't listened to it, is they put on their investigative journalist hats and they investigate the elusive author of like an unauthorized Rocky novel. Yeah. And it's like it's a real investigation. Like they're really trying to track this guy down,
Starting point is 01:23:50 but it's like a really funny show about that. And it's kind of like it feels like an NPR or like an episode of Reply All. It's like really well produced. Like people I've spoken to have said that it's the best podcast they've ever listened to. A lot of people have mentioned that, yeah. To our faces. Yeah, I know. Rude, obviously. Right to it. Very rude and hurtful. But they're not wrong. Like it's the best podcast they've ever listened to. A lot of people have mentioned that, yeah. To our faces. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Rude, obviously. Right to very rude and hurtful. But they're not wrong. Like, it's a really great podcast. And it's like seven, I think it's seven short episodes. And if you're worried, like, at the end, like, it closes. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, it's a really good.
Starting point is 01:24:17 And we listened to that last year and we really liked it. And so in about a week's time, they're releasing another season called Finding Desperado. And so Alexi sent a week's time they're releasing another season called finding desperado and so alexi sent a few people like advance i have i have yet to listen to it but you have yeah he sent the first uh episode to a bunch of people just to check it out and uh so in this season the cam and alexi have come across an amazing piece of film trivia which is all the more amazing because despite the fact that it is in the Guinness Book of World Records, nobody can verify whether it's real or not.
Starting point is 01:24:51 Okay, right. So they're going to go out and they're going to track down this fact that they've found, like this amazing piece of like film history and trivia. Yeah, yeah. They're going to determine once and for all whether it's real or not and I'm very excited. It's just funny.
Starting point is 01:25:04 Awesome. But anyway, it's coming out next week, but I've just mentioned in advance, so if you haven't listened to Finding Drago, I don't think you need to have listened to that to listen to this one. But I think... But you should. You should, because it's good.
Starting point is 01:25:16 It's a good... Yeah, I meant to give that a listen before now, but I'm sure we'll talk about it next week as well. Yes. Or when the show has more episodes out. But that is very excitement, isn't it? It's very excitement. Good on those guys.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Is that all the things we're reading? I think so, yeah. Then let's move it along. To letters? Yeah. Letters. The classic one was, Letters, oh letters, we love you.
Starting point is 01:25:36 Some letters, they're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. Hello. YouTube has asked me, is this video what you were looking for? Completely. Also, it boggles my mind, it's up to 13,000 views. That's all you.
Starting point is 01:25:56 I guess. I know, we're episode two, it couldn't be. That's right. Mason. Yes? People want to contact the show. It's weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com or they can get us up and they can hit us up on the Twitters. That's right.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Hashtag weeklyplanetpod. Pod. I can go first. Please do. But you can also go first. So Fran sent this in and said, interesting topic for discussion and how this works is somebody asked James Gunn, Duncan, on Twitter says, are those Joel's actual tattoos, as in Joel Kinnaman for Suicide Squad?
Starting point is 01:26:26 Oh, yes. There's some images this week. I didn't put it in the news, but, you know. Do you ever run into a problem being able to show tattoos due to copyright issues? Thanks. And James Gunn replied, they're Joel's actual tattoos with some minor permutations, like changing the Swedish text.
Starting point is 01:26:43 We need to have the rights to show them. They all just say bork, bork, bork. Which in this case, and in Pete Davidson's case, we did. If you're an actor, I would consider not getting tattoos as they're a pain in the ass. Interesting. So I know like The Rock has like one across his chest and down one of his arms that they often cover for movies.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting that it could be a detriment to a career. Yeah, right. Potentially, yeah. So you were saying- Ben Affleck's got that back tattoo. That's true, yeah. So are you saying that some of them, like if you have the Batman logo on yourself, for example-
Starting point is 01:27:15 I guess, yeah. You'd have to contact DC Comics and be like- Yeah, to put it in a movie. Hey, can I have this Batman tattoo in the Suicide Squad? Oh, I can't. Okay. You probably couldn't. You probably could. I thought that was really interesting. So if there are any actors out there, don't tattoo your face, I guess.
Starting point is 01:27:32 Yeah. Unless you're that dude who was in that episode of The X-Files with the carnival and he was the guy who was all tattoos. Sure, the Enigma. The Enigma man. What happened to him? He's still around, I think. I don't want to Google it. He's probably dead. Okay, I'll look into it. But my parents told me that if't want to google it It's probably there Okay I'll look it out I'll look into it But my parents told me That like if you get
Starting point is 01:27:45 Too many tattoos It like Cuts off Your skin can't breathe And you die Oh wow Yeah The gold finger defence
Starting point is 01:27:53 Exactly I've never been like One to like Be super interested in them But that probably Played a factor Sure The lies your parents
Starting point is 01:28:00 Told you Yeah Yeah Did your parents tell you That it's illegal To have that Internal car light You know the one That's. Did your parents tell you that it's illegal to have that internal car light, you know, the one that's in the roof? They didn't say it's illegal, but they just said it's annoying when it's on
Starting point is 01:28:12 because you can't see properly, which is true. Yeah, I feel like maybe my parents told me it was illegal. You can't have it on and they should have, yeah. I mean, if they just said it was annoying, I would have been like, good. That's what I'm all about. Absolutely. He's alive, the enigma. Okay, that's good.
Starting point is 01:28:30 And Guinness World Records, most tattoos, et cetera. Good, good for him. There you go. What's your reading? Oh, let's have a look. I mean, whatever we're doing. Okay, this is from Pancakes Felix. There have been so many horrible live action video game movies,
Starting point is 01:28:43 but Zelda seems to avoid this. The game has a variety of stories to choose from and a large fan base. Why do you think it hasn't been adapted into a film yet? Nintendo. Yeah, I was going to say it's Nintendo. Well, he's got, the question is, is it lack of dialogue from Link? Is it too sacred? Is it a cliche story? But it's Nintendo. They're very, they're very protective.
Starting point is 01:28:59 It could do very well. I think they will start looking at that after this Super Mario movie that's coming out. Yeah. Yeah. Live action would be interesting. Yeah, who do you get for Link? Tom Holland? Everyone's saying Tom Holland. He's too old at this point.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Probably because he's 24 apparently. Yeah, that makes sense. There's been bad animated adaptations and CDI games and things like that. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, no, that is why. I've got one here, Mason. Go on. Some Scylla magic who you might know.
Starting point is 01:29:27 I know. He taught me how to do that Tom Cruise trick, Mason. That's right. I think he's actually coming up on a Got Talent show. Oh. He's doing a Got Talent. I saw it on his social media and then it disappeared. I couldn't find it again, so maybe he's not.
Starting point is 01:29:37 That's the magic of Scylla. Maybe it is, but yeah. He's asked, what would you and Mason do on a Got Talent style show? Hashtag We're Here Planet Pod. I reckon we just come out and do an hour and a half of a podcast that's right let's do this they start trying to play us off but we've brought our own power supply they can't do it we got this generator do we have to do it well because i did not do this oh okay am i on the board maybe you want to be sure yeah nice
Starting point is 01:29:59 that's what friends are for think think yeah why do you have an actual talent that you could do? I can do a headstand. Oh. I can sort of do a cartwheel, it turns out. That's true, you can. Oh, I don't know if I do. Gosh. How long could you grow your beard?
Starting point is 01:30:14 Just come out and go, this is pretty long, isn't it? Yeah. They're like, no. You don't know how long I'm going to grow it, though. It's going to be really long. Yeah. Wow. I don't know. I'd have to maybe, yeah, I don't know how long I'm going to grow up though. It's going to be really long. Wow. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:30:27 I'd have to maybe, yeah, I don't know. What you need is, I need to, what I'd do is probably learn something that isn't that impressive. Yeah. But then I'd have a sad backstory. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:38 That's a good idea. That's what you need. Yeah, yeah. I know a guy who went on to Australian Idol and he did have a bit of like a tragic backstory which he didn't want to bring up. Oh. So they were constantly like, tell us a sad thing. And he didn't end up getting through.
Starting point is 01:30:53 Yeah, right. Because I think because he didn't have like a narrative, which I'm not going to tell here, but yeah. So you really do need that in some of these cases. Great question, Silo, and good magic all around. He's got some good magic. Yeah. Follow him at SiloMagic on all platforms.
Starting point is 01:31:08 What else, Mason? This is from Josh. Hi, Josh. Hi, guys. I'm an Australian currently living in New Zealand. I gave up chefing when I moved here a year ago and started working on kiwi fruit orchards instead. Give up a bloody chefing for sheep shagging, mate.
Starting point is 01:31:19 Got it. New Zealand. They root sheep. They say we root sheep, but they root sheep. Yeah say we root sheep but they root sheep yeah they're wrong though that's the thing and there's more of us than them so
Starting point is 01:31:28 yeah that's right while it's a nice change from working in a sweaty kitchen all day most of the work is quite tedious and listening to the entire back catalogue of the weekly planet and a certain less successful podcast has made it a bit more bearable
Starting point is 01:31:40 thank you unfortunately I don't have any podcast related near death experiences to report on however I do have something that I think might tickle you. My boss took our entire kiwi fruit-picking crew skydiving at the end of the season. And the last thing I thought of before falling out of the plane was, oh, sweet, there'll be a new podcast episode out today.
Starting point is 01:31:57 So that's good. That was immediately replaced by pure terror. Yeah. Anyway, I hope you guys are well and the lockdown doesn't go on for too much longer. Can I be the official Australian chef orchard hand of the podcast? Yes, you can, Josh, from Australia. Some more restrictions
Starting point is 01:32:12 might be easing this week. I don't know. But also our contact tracing system is fucked. Who knows? That's a good thought. I'd be worried that as I was falling out of the plane, I'd be like, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:32:27 what was the last song I was playing on Spotify? I hope it wasn't embarrassing. I bet it is. I bet it is. All mine are embarrassing. Let me check. You should check mine. No, no, it's The Clash.
Starting point is 01:32:35 I don't mind that. I don't mind that at all. That's quite okay. That's embarrassing, Mason. No, it's not. You're so embarrassing. Maybe a little bit. Maybe the medical exam is like Generation Z and they're like,
Starting point is 01:32:47 oh, that's so cringe. I've got George Ezra's Budapest, but I don't think that was me. I think that was maybe Claire. Okay, I don't know what that is. We share an account. Or maybe it was me. I don't know. You know, the Mars in Budapest.
Starting point is 01:33:00 Forget it. Not at all. Fuck you. Anyway, next thing, Mason. Next thing. Yes. That was rude. I apologize. No, that's quite all right. Let's have a look you. Anyway, next thing, Mason. Next thing. Yes. That was rude. I apologize.
Starting point is 01:33:05 That's quite all right. Let's have a look. I'm going to find another letter. This is from David King. Yes. Subject line, another ball surgery. Hey, guys. I'm a long-time listener and first-time messenger.
Starting point is 01:33:17 Just thought I'd let you know that I was also listening this week while waiting for my vasectomy. Anyway, keep up the great work and thanks for all the entertainment. Cheers, Dave. You're welcome, Dave. I'm thinking about doing the old ball surgery. Like for content vasectomy. Anyway, keep up the great work and thanks for all the entertainment. Cheers, Dave. You're welcome, Dave. I'm thinking about doing the old ball surgery. Like for content? For content.
Starting point is 01:33:29 No, for no more kids. No more at-home content. Oh, for Australia's Got Talent. You're going to have your – I'll get you to do it. Oh, my God. And I've already got the knives. That's right.
Starting point is 01:33:40 So perfect. It takes like 15 – how about you just start throwing knives and if you happen to hit it by accident, you're like, yeah, this was a vasectomy. This is what this is. Because of our sad backstories, everyone. And then it's just standing ovation.
Starting point is 01:33:54 You know? Great. Great. Yeah. Would you consider a vasectomy? That's quite a personal question. I don't know if you'd have to answer that. Yeah, I guess so.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Folks out there, would you consider a vasectomy? That's our actual item for this week. Let us know. Yes or no? Man or woman? Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Just let us know.
Starting point is 01:34:13 What next, Mason? Oh, here's one. Get a load of this. I'm getting a load. It's from Johnny Reed. I mean, I wouldn't be with Buddy if I get this bloody vasectomy. Sorry, go on. It says, I made a movie and it's James' fault.
Starting point is 01:34:23 I have dare you. Hey, guys. So since I graduated uni five years ago and starting to be an actor, it's always been my goal to write and direct independent films. And after watching James' video with Michael Shanks on how to get your movie made, I finally decided to create a production company with my best friend and my wife. I wonder if they're two separate people or if this is a guy who's like, you know, my wife's my best friend, actually.
Starting point is 01:34:43 Boo. No, I say that. I know you do. Boo. Because you want to hang out. This guy got you. I got you. Well, I'm just saying you want to hang out with someone you like for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 01:34:52 You know what I mean? That's right. Yeah. What else though? That's cool. Where can we find this thing? What's going on with it? Let's see.
Starting point is 01:34:59 We've put out our first short film on our website, carleteagleproductions.com. So C-A-R-L-E-T-T-E-G-L-E-P-R-O-D-U-C-T-I carleteagleproductions.com. So C-A-R-L-E-T-T-E-G-A-L-E-P-R-O-D-U-C-T-I-O-N-S.com. Very good. And they're crowdfunding to get their next film off the ground. That's very exciting. So he's already bloody got one in the can. He's got another one going.
Starting point is 01:35:16 Yeah. Ready to go. That's terrific. Good for him, man. That's good stuff. That's fantastic. Yeah. Where's your short film or regular short length film? I'm too busy hanging out with all the listeners.
Starting point is 01:35:24 That's a good point. Well, maybe you could work on something together. Too many cooks though, you know. That's true. Like working on a group project. I'm like, hey, listeners of the Weekly Planet Podcast, weekly whacker to do's, can you work on this scene? How are you at university group projects?
Starting point is 01:35:37 How am I? Yeah. Well, I'm not in university. No, obviously not. But when I was. When you were, yeah. Yeah, I was very much, no, I would get it done. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:46 I think I was probably the person who was divvying up. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, you know, there's that moment where everybody's sitting there and nobody wants to commit to anything. Nobody knows each other or whatever, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. I think I would have been like, yeah. I just remember being like, I'm going to be the one who doesn't fuck this up.
Starting point is 01:36:01 So whenever the mark comes in, I'm like, I don't care what this is. I just look mine. Yeah, I'm fine. You know what I mean? I just don't want to be that guy. I don't care what we get. Oh, here's an interesting one. This is from JP Popham.
Starting point is 01:36:12 Hello. It says, James and Maiso are the imposters. So sus. What, what, what? You may be well aware of the mobile PC game Among Us, which has been making its rounds on Twitch and other game streaming platforms. Ben wants us to play it for Caravan of Garbage. Oh, but he might not be aware of us,
Starting point is 01:36:26 the Discord server of great mates who regularly play together and have a great time. It's been a lot of fun getting to know people from around the world and equally fun to spam strangers in our game lobbies with weekly Planet Inside jokes, as well as demand they listen to the podcast or we kill them. That's great. In the game, not in real life, we aren't monsters.
Starting point is 01:36:41 Thank you for this pod and the amazing community it has produced. So that's from JP Popham from Georgia in the United States of Americas. I don't know how you find that, but I guess you just look up Discord server and there may be great mates. And then you'll find it. And mates. Yeah. Someone will put it in the Facebook group and the Reddit group.
Starting point is 01:36:56 It'll be fine. Perfect. That's terrific. Yeah. I have watched some Among Us streams, friends of the show and people I don't know. Yes. And it looks I think I could probably do one round before the stress became too much. I have watched some Among Us streams, friends of the show and people I don't know, and I think I could probably do one round before the stress became too much.
Starting point is 01:37:12 Does it look like easy to understand control? Oh, yeah, no, I get it. I totally get it. Well, as long as you get it, Mason. I get it. You don't want to be out of the loop. Well, I'm glad you're having a grand old time over there. That is a great time. Is that everything?
Starting point is 01:37:22 I think so, yeah. All right. Also, you know what? The reason I wanted to read that out, firstly, because of that. Yes. I'm going to shout that out, the Discord group. But also, the term sus. I feel Australians invented the term sus.
Starting point is 01:37:35 We've been using the term sus since before Among Us, but now it's an internet thing. Really? People are like, oh, this guy's sus. Australians have been saying sus for years. I didn't know it was a new thing. I just thought it was a thing that everybody did everywhere all the time. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:37:47 I think Americans are learning about things being sus. I don't like that. No, I don't like it. Do they know how we call them seppos? Oh, no, I hope not. Oh, no. I better figure out why. We don't really call them that.
Starting point is 01:38:00 It's just like a thing. It's like an old colloquial term. I call some people seppos. I like it. It stands for septic tank tank which rhymes with yank yeah which is yank is like the australian expression for americans that people don't really use james you spoiled it no who cares people got google nothing secret anymore that's the one that's the one piece of australiana that was probably gonna send fucking paul hogan after me yeah Yeah, maybe. I'll kill that prick. Oh, my God. This has been a loose one.
Starting point is 01:38:29 Late night, James will threaten to kill anybody as long as it's Paul Hogan. As long as it's Paul Hogan. Yeah, my God. All right. That's the whole show, I reckon. That's the show. Thank you so much, everybody, for listening. I hope everybody's doing all right out there.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Yeah, man. I hope everybody's having a grand old time playing their Among Us, being the Mungus. Among Us. Or not. Yeah. I hope everybody's staying safe and wearing a mask if you want to wear a mask and getting out and voting
Starting point is 01:38:49 if you're American or if you're Australian, specifically Victorian, and you postal voted in the recent council elections. I haven't done that yet. Is it too late? Yes. Oh, wow. Hang on, let me check.
Starting point is 01:38:58 Oh, no, you've still got tomorrow. You've still got tomorrow as well. I'll probably forget. Okay, great. Anyway, go out and vote, I say. Yeah, definitely. Whether it be in America for the big prize or the postal elections. Definitely, definitely.
Starting point is 01:39:09 For rates, if you want the rates to go down or whatever. You've got to make sure you're – I mean, I know it's become somewhat of a thing, like James is railing against the local councils or whatever. I've come around on it. I think they're really important to maintaining your community. Here's the thing. I think either one really important to, like, maintaining your community. Here's the thing. I think either one of us could become, like, local councillors
Starting point is 01:39:29 because I got my little thing. It's like, here's all the candidates. Somebody hadn't even put a photo in. Who submitted a photo? Really? You want me to vote for you? Maybe that's a tactic. No.
Starting point is 01:39:39 Yes. Oh, like I'm so authentic about the issues. Or like I'm so ugly this benefits me to not put it on here. Nice, because it's their utmost. It's their utmost. Absolutely. You may be right. Anyway, apart from that, I hope everybody's doing all right.
Starting point is 01:39:50 And thank you for listening. Thank you for telling a friend. Yeah. Or telling somebody in an Among Us server. Definitely. Against their will. Yeah. Or as we said a couple of weeks ago, tricking somebody into listening with lies.
Starting point is 01:40:02 Do we get any responses to that? Not really, but I hope we do this week. Me too. And, yeah, thank you for leaving a nice review. James, you got one right there? Got a couple of reviews right here. Mason just brought them up in front of me. This one is from Just, well, it's Just, but this is a five,
Starting point is 01:40:18 and this is just Paul, the greatest of mates. Love listening to James and Nick anytime there's an empty void in my brain. And these days there's a lot. Started listening to them when I was – they started unknowingly back in 2014 with my dad on long car trips when I was only 13. Fast forward six years later, my dad is gone. Oh, boo. But I still listen to these mates all the time.
Starting point is 01:40:37 Thanks for teaching me the word grogan and filling my ears with Australian gold. So happy to do that. Thank you for listening. Thank you very much. Hope you're doing all right out there. Got this other short review from TannerJ1227. It says, dope. Been listening to these nerds for four plus years
Starting point is 01:40:53 and somehow still have not gotten bored of them. Probably because I'm just as big a nerd, if not more. Well, that's dope. That is a challenge and Paul Hogan will be coming after you. More like Paul Grogan. Ah, that's dope. That is a challenge and Paul Hogan will be coming after you. More like Paul Grogan. Ah, that's true. Because he's a big part of shit. Because of the tax avoidance.
Starting point is 01:41:15 Yeah, that whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the stuff. Anyway. Look, if you'd like to get in contact with us. He's not that bad probably, is he? I don't know. I don't know anything about him.
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Starting point is 01:41:45 on the Planet Broadcasting Network, including Aunty Donny. Oh, my goodness. Aunty Donny. Aunty Donny. The Aunty Donner podcast. Check them out before they become – you can be like, I'll listen to their podcast before they're on Netflix and they're super famous.
Starting point is 01:41:56 That's right. You've got like a couple of weeks to do that. You've got two weeks to do it, to listen to every episode. Ed Helms is on the most recent episode. Oh, is he? I haven't heard that. Great. They're having a good old chat with Ed Helms, so it's really good.
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Starting point is 01:42:48 which should be up now, I think. It will be up right now because Collings is all over that. Nice. Unless he's forgotten, but he never has. He hasn't forgotten anything. Maybe this is the first time, though. Who knows? That's right.
Starting point is 01:42:57 I don't think he literally has. He's never forgotten. Good for him. Thickest advice. Thickest advice, Mason. That's right. That's what he's skating at. That's right.
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Starting point is 01:43:12 Whatever you want Pick your poison, you know what I mean? That's right And thank you to the Brute and the Basilisk and Rackham For all their musical themes Next week, Dunno We don't Well, Mandalorian will be out
Starting point is 01:43:23 That's true So we'll talk a little bit about that Best Thanksgiving movies. Oh. Most cursed Thanksgivings. I don't know when Thanksgiving is. I think it's in December. November?
Starting point is 01:43:32 Doesn't that have like horrible origins or something, Thanksgiving? Maybe we shouldn't talk about it. Okay, fair enough. Okay, cool, cool, cool. Cool, cool, cool. Pumpkin Spice. Yeah, but some people don't like that. They're like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Sure are. But people enjoy what they want, man. That's right, yeah. And that's fine. Unless it's really terrible. Yeah, right. Which I don't think it is because why would they keep bringing it back?
Starting point is 01:43:50 Pumpkin Spice is pretty good. Never had it. Nice. That's the show. That is the whole show. Thank you so much, everybody, for listening. We'll see you next week, I reckon. So bloody grab that jam, won't you?
Starting point is 01:43:58 And goodbye. Yeah. Paul Grogan. Paul Grogan. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. I mean, if you want. It's up to you.
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