The Weekly Planet - 108 Best Horror Movie Icons
Episode Date: November 2, 2015To celebrate the fact it was Halloween recently apparently we bumble our way through the best horror movie icons!Plus news of a Batman: Under The Red Hood movie, Suicide Squad, Indiana Jones 5 again, ...Alien 5 being delayed, Power Rangers, Iron Fist and Guardians Of The Galaxy 2! Thanks for listening. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday.
With me is always my co-host, Nick Mason.
It's-a me.
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, it's me.
He's not lying.
I'm here.
For once.
Aww. How's things? Pretty good. Went to PAX this week. Oh, it is. Yeah, it's me. He's not lying. I'm here. For once. Aww.
How's things?
Pretty good.
Went to PAX this week.
Oh, did you?
PAX Australia.
How was it?
Yeah, good fun.
Went to some panels.
Did you meet anybody?
Nah, there's nobody famous there.
What did you do?
I walked around.
Yeah?
I got a fairy floss.
That's pretty good.
Or a candy floss, as they say in America.
Did you eat it and then be like, my teeth feel weird?
Did you not see the photo?
I put a photo up on Twitter.
What's Twitter?
Oh, never mind.
Is that where you put all your photos?
Yeah, it's where I put them.
Why not print your photos and put them in a little book?
That's pretty good, actually.
It's pretty good.
It's me and Vault Boy.
And Buddy the Fallout Guy.
Yeah.
Pretty good.
Anyway, I went to that.
Saw some panels.
Yeah.
I'd recommend it.
All right, good.
What, should I go now?
No, it's too late now.
It's over.
Oh.
Should I go next year? Yeah, go next year. Yeah. All right. And if not, you I go now? No, it's too late now. It's over. Should I go next year?
Yeah, go next year.
All right.
And if not, you're after, I guess.
Yeah.
All right.
I mean, I caused a bit of a mess, so they probably won't have it next year.
Oh, okay.
I made some trouble.
Good, good.
Yeah.
Anything exciting happen in your personal life this week?
Nah.
Great.
Moving on.
Are you familiar with Civil War, the movie?
Captain America Civil War?
Yes.
It's pretty good, isn't it?
Well, I don't know yet.
Well, it sounds pretty good, doesn't it?
My thumb is firmly in the middle bit.
Well, that's the thing.
We haven't seen a trailer yet, have we?
We haven't seen anything.
But it is a thing.
Well, there's two schools of thought on this.
Actually, we have seen some promo images.
That's true, actually.
Some promo images.
We've seen those.
It's secret.
Secret.
Weekly Planet exclusive.
That we're not showing anybody.
We're not showing anyone because we don't want to get sued.
They'll do it.
Disney have a lot of money.
So they say.
But have you ever seen it?
I've never seen their money.
I've never seen their Scrooge McDuck style bank vault.
I don't know.
Anyway, but okay, there's two schools of thought when the Civil War trailer's landing.
One website, which I can't remember which, is saying it's going to land with Spectre this week in the US.
Yep.
Though it's already out in the UK.
And another group of websites is saying it'll land around Star Wars 7, which is December 18th-ish, give or take.
So I guess we'll find out, won't we?
We sure will.
One of those is wrong.
Well, they're both wrong.
Well, maybe it's with neither.
Yeah.
Maybe like this time we go with no previews.
Well, that's the thing is when they say it lands with a movie,
what they mean is it's released on like the Monday or the Tuesday online that week.
So you probably don't have to go to the movie.
Exactly.
And then, you know, you'll eventually see it.
Though I find in Australia, we get the old trailers in the cinemas.
We do, yeah.
Yeah, like we get like,
I saw the original.
And everybody loudly goes,
seen it.
We've seen it.
We've seen it.
That's just you, isn't it?
Yeah.
Hey, projectionists, put the new one on.
I'm talking, I tapped the little glass bit.
You heard me.
They don't mind either.
No.
They're happy that you're giving feedback.
They're happy that someone's interacting with them.
That's right.
That's great.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaking of trailers and teasers, they released the teaser for the teaser of Preacher.
Oh, yeah.
I didn't watch that because I was like, no, I'll just wait till the-
Well, it's six seconds long, so.
Great.
How was it?
It's six seconds long.
Is it one of the best?
It's six seconds long. Dominic Cooper, right? It's six seconds long. Is it one of the best? It's six seconds long.
Dominic Cooper, right?
It's six seconds long.
It's hard to say.
It's hard to say whether it is Dominic Cooper.
Yeah, it's six seconds long and I watched it on my phone.
Yeah, yeah.
Looked pretty interesting.
We had some very brief flashes of stuff.
Here's the thing, though.
He's not wearing white jeans.
Wears white jeans in the cartoon.
That's his signature look.
Doesn't wear it in the...
I'm not saying it could be bad.
I mean, maybe they look weird on camera.
Didn't they talk about...
They never look weird.
Didn't we talk about how they've made some significant changes?
To the pilot, yes.
Like straight up?
They have, yeah.
Yeah.
So, white jeans, definitely.
Yeah, that's one of them.
Yeah, yeah.
Because his congregation isn't dead or something.
They're not dead.
And it seems a lot of the pilot or maybe even the first season is about him protecting them Walking Dead style.
Yeah, yeah.
So, who's to say?
Don't we already have that show in Fear the Walking Dead?
Yes, we do.
And the other one?
The Walking Dead.
Actually, you know what?
The Walking Dead is pretty good at the moment.
I'm not going.
I'm not watching it.
You know what? You have to watch it this year because we probably
should do an episode oh just this just this season okay fine if you want all right you know what do
what you want that's fine okay good great i will people don't donate money to us for you to do a
thing or not do a thing we don't know why anyone donates money to us we're just happy that they do
patreon.com slash Mr. Sunday movies.
Get in quick.
Maybe they like the fact that I'm like a bloody brick wall of not being
interested in watching things.
That's what they like.
And they're talking about me being obstinate about,
about not watching stuff.
I get the feeling that that's true because there's gotta be a big,
there's gotta be a market of people who are like,
not,
not trying that,
not watching that, not interested. Because there's got to be a big, there's got to be a market of people who are like, no, not trying that. Not interested.
Not watching that.
Not interested.
Good stuff.
Anyway, I appreciate it.
But apparently the full teaser
is coming out tomorrow.
Well, so this will be up
by the time.
Yeah.
So go back in time and watch it.
The full 12 second teaser.
It's going to be great.
They're going to treat us.
Yeah, so good.
Great.
It's just him
in a jean store
like running his hand across all the colours of jeans
And he's like white
It's getting lighter and lighter
And he's like nah
The music gets more dramatic
And he's like just regular jeans
And people are like oh my god it's a nod to the original series
He nearly bought the white jeans
Oh my god
That's amazing
Speaking of amazing, I guess.
Yes.
Depending on your opinion of that.
There's some new Suicide Squad images that were released online this week.
Did you see any of them?
No, I didn't see them.
Should I look them up now?
Yeah, may as well.
Okay.
I probably should have texted you.
But then again, what am I, your mum who shows you pictures of the Suicide Squad movie?
That's your mum's job.
It kind of is, isn't it?
God, come on, mum.
I saw you this week as well.
Jesus.
I learned this week that my mum and dad have listened to this show.
Get out of here.
I don't think mine have.
What did they say?
They were like, well, they said exactly what everybody I know
who said who's listened to this, which is,
I didn't understand what you're talking about,
but you seem to be having a really good time.
That seems nice.
Yeah, that's nice, isn't it?
Yeah.
Anyway, Mum and Dad, if you're listening, please stop nice. Yeah, that's nice, isn't it? Yeah. Anyway, mum and dad,
if you're listening,
please stop listening.
Oh, here we go.
Squad goals.
There we go.
That's funny.
Latest character portrait
from Suicide Squad.
Is that what I'm looking at?
That's the one.
That's what you're looking at.
All right, here we go.
Here we go.
Polygon.com.
So we got some new images
of the Joker.
Oh, yes.
See any of those?
I'm looking at Rick Flagg.
Yep.
He's certainly a military man.
Certainly is.
He's got more of a little goatee
than I expected.
Hmm.
Does that bother you?
No, it's fine.
There's some bloody...
Here you go.
There's some Harley Quinn
and some Will Smith.
Oh, yeah, very good.
Yep, very nice.
I just see that character
as Will Smith as well.
I'm interested to see
what he does with it.
I think the one that people
are most interested in is this.
Captain Boomerang.
Oh, the image with the Joker shirtless.
Crocodile skin.
Purple crocodile skin, open jacket, and what looks like a track pants.
Yeah, but they say Arkham down the side.
Oh, that's very good.
He's got a cane.
He's got the word Joker across his stomach.
He sure does.
Or joke.
Might just be joke as we've established last week.
And he's also got like a smile tattooed over his belly button.
He's tum-tum.
Yeah, he's tum-tum.
Yeah, okay.
So that's exciting.
Yeah.
Do you have any thoughts on any of that?
He's looking weirder and weirder.
I'm feeling now that there is more credence to the fact that maybe he's looking he's looking weirder and weirder i'm i'm feeling now that there is more
credence to the fact that maybe he's not the original joker because his character is so
and i know i know there's a whole video of me going no that's not it it certainly couldn't be
that but again i i think if you take into account the fact that he might exist at the same time as
the original joker yeah and there's like an overlap of like a couple of years, maybe.
Okay, sure.
I feel that maybe he could be.
And he's kind of like,
he's been built in the image of the original Joker.
Well, I think there's,
if a rumor this week is to be believed,
which we'll get to in a minute,
I don't, I think that he probably,
I genuinely just think he is the real Joker.
Okay, cool.
But anyway, we'll get to that in a minute.
Because David Ayer, who's directed this movie, he is interviewed and whatever he he was asked to speak about it in the interview
which is strange sure yeah that's that a director would be asked to talk about his film the quote
is i'm sure he was amazed it was just a couple of minutes of silence he's like what what do you want
me to who do you want what uh but basically he said uh you know all movies, like he's talking about comic book movies,
are about defeating the evil.
I like to think that he made it like the Jack off motion
while he was doing all these movies.
All these movies, they make me do.
All these movies are about defeating the evil alien robot
from fucking Planet X before it destroys the world.
All right, language, David.
I know, right?
With this ticking clock and who the fuck cares cares but you do this story about struggle and isolation and people
who have been shit on that suddenly get thrown in uh thrown this lifeline that's not so bad
uh i think of this as the comic book movie 2.0 huh bold words this ain't your granddaddy's comic
book movie i think that somebody has specifically said,
hey, if you swear in this interview, you'll sound real edgy.
Yeah.
So swear a whole bunch.
Like the movie we're making.
Say some cuss words.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, it's good to back your work, obviously.
But those are strong words.
I mean, obviously he's got a lot of...
F-words.
F-words, certainly.
He's got a lot of faith in the project, obviously.
But if that was me, I'd be like,
why don't we just wait and see what people think of it
that's why we're not big time Hollywood directors
that's probably true but you know what I think maybe
it's an Australian thing
you don't talk yourself up in Australia or you get
slapped down tall poppy syndrome
I mean it does exist elsewhere
obviously but I feel like if you meet
somebody who's like you know pretty good
everybody's like
that guy's a dickhead
like straight up
so you can't
you can't talk about yourself
for a second
in a positive way
you have to be
self-deprecating
for anybody to like you
and that's the way
of the world
yep
mateship
mateship
also mateship
but look
I'm super excited
for Suicide Squad
me too
even though the Joker
looks weird
I'm still interested to see what happens,
like what perspective it kind of takes
and the group dynamic.
Who gets suicided first?
Who does that?
Who's the sacrificial lamb?
Who's going to die in it?
It's Slipknot.
It's going to be Slipknot.
Yeah, exactly.
Or Pyro, whatever his name is.
The fire guy.
El Diablo.
Yeah, yeah.
One of those two.
I reckon it's going to be Slipknot.
Well, yeah, we haven't seen a lot of him, have we?
But here's the thing, because I would think that it would be Slipknot because visibly he's the least interesting.
Yes.
Visually.
But maybe it is going to be El Diablo because he seems a bit more...
You're like, oh, he's a bit more of a character.
They won't kill him.
And then, bam, exploded head.
You know who showed up this week on The Flash?
King Shark. Huh. And then bam, exploded head. You know who showed up this week on The Flash? King Shark.
Huh.
And it looked pretty good.
Like 20 seconds maybe of it.
Yeah.
It turned up at the end.
Spoiler alert,
I guess.
Uh-huh.
And it blew my mind.
I was like,
wow,
that looks pretty,
I mean,
it's TV obviously.
Yeah,
sure.
But man,
it's good stuff.
All right then.
So,
and he's in the Suicide Squad
he's in
that Suicide Squad
animated movie
isn't he
he's the one
who dies
straight up
no it's KG Beast
that dies
straight up
oh okay
I think
yeah well
we'll never know
will we
we'll never know
there's nowhere to tell
yeah
don't email
I mean or do
we don't mind
yeah it's fine
yeah
weeklyplanetpod
at gmail.com
please but yeah there was rumour this week from Joe Blow of an Under the Red Hood movie I mean, or do. We don't mind. Yeah, it's fine. Yeah. Weeklyplanetpod.jml.com. Please.
But yeah, there was a rumor this week from Joe Blow of an Under the Red Hood movie.
An animated movie?
No.
There's already an animated movie.
And it's great.
Have you seen it?
Yeah, I've seen it.
It's bloody great.
That the first Batman solo movie, again, this is a rumor, will be Under the Red Hood.
And it's not actually, it's called Under the Hood, I think, the actual arc.
Yeah.
But the animated version is Under the Red Hood, I's not actually it's called Under the Hood I think the actual arc but the animated version
is Under the Red Hood
I believe
whatever it is
but people just call it
whatever they want to call it
because that's okay
call any movie
anything you want
call Suicide Squad
Super Happy Fun Time Land
I really like the idea of that
if that's true
now I'm making a video
on it at the moment
it might be out by now
I don't know
because I actually
I made a Star Wars video
for this Sunday and I finished it and then last minute I don't know. Because I actually made a Star Wars video for this Sunday
and I finished it.
Then last minute I was like,
you know what, I want to talk about this.
So I've kind of pushed that aside.
Can I see the Star Wars video?
You probably can't, no.
You won't care.
Oh yeah, definitely.
But I can show you.
That's what I want to really build up.
You know what?
And then be like, I didn't care about that.
You know what?
If it's not up, I'll put it on the Patreon.
Okay, great. So people can go and see it if they want? If it's not up, I'll put it on the Patreon. Okay, great.
So people can go and see it if they want.
But it will be up.
Even if you're not a Patreon, you'll see it.
Yeah.
Don't worry.
I really like the idea that, and again, they're producing one movie every five years or whatever
it is, so we'll never get to the end of this.
But I do like the idea that we've been thrown into a universe that does already exist.
Yeah, I know, right? idea that we've been thrown into a universe that does already exist yeah i know right that there
has already been a robin and whatever and there's a dead robin now and maybe i mean if they're doing
the classic model there will there's already a nightwing well that's the thing that's what they
said nightwing is going to be mentioned in batman v superman yeah and then we see him in under the
red hood right or whatever you want to call it. And also, obviously, we'll get, spoiler alert, Jason Todd.
So it's going to be a retelling of, not the killing joke,
Death in the Family and Under the Red Hood kind of meshed together,
which sounds amazing.
That does, doesn't it?
Yeah.
You know what I'm...
Because ultimately we had like more than a decade
between Death in the Family and the return of Jason Todd.
So it's amazing that that... 20 years, really. It's amazing that that return of Jason Todd. So it's amazing that that...
20 years, really.
It's amazing that that return of Jason Todd is so good as well.
Because often when they bring back these characters,
Bucky being the exception, one of the exceptions,
it doesn't really work.
There's probably tons of exceptions now that we think about it.
I'm sure there are.
But it wasn't a disappointment to see him again,
to see him come back.
They're going to have to cut out the bit where Superboy Prime punches him back into reality
with his magic punches.
They'll probably just use the Lazarus Pit like they did in the animated one.
Though that is in the comic as well.
It's like in addition to reality punches.
That's a quick getting themselves out of the painted corner.
Yeah, absolutely.
They're like, okay, well, in a couple of years, we're going to have to explain how Superboy
punched him back into reality so let's add
the Lazarus pit and then we'll quickly brush the other thing
aside and then we'll never mention it again
that's exactly it
but I'm sick of like
and I like the Nolan
Batmans and I like
some of the Burton stuff
you know I don't really like it but I
respect that
that's a vision and like those directors are like well I just wanted to do my version of Batman you know what I don't really like it but i respect that yeah that's a vision and like those the
directors are like well i just wanted to do my version of batman you know what i don't want to
see your fucking version of batman i want to see batman i want to see comic book batman and that's
what this sounds like this is great right you know what i like a lot of different interpretations i
agree i agree but you can now take popular story arcs
that aren't year one
and the Dark Knight
strikes
what you're saying
is you're sick of origin stories
I'm sick of it
and I'm sick of seeing
everything being influenced
by the Dark Knight Returns
both of those are great
but there are other comics
so why not do them
but yeah
sure
do them in your own style
I will
but
something a little bit different
you know what speaking of that i'm not a
collector of things but you know uh as i was at pax you know as i mentioned earlier i won't shut
up about it you know what something i wish i'd collected from from year one yeah batman year one
no not batman year one just from when they started batman the batman black and white statuettes have
you seen those yeah they're great're great. They're incredible.
Like there's, like it's, you know,
the Batman black and white series, you know,
or a whole bunch of different creators got a shot at drawing Batman.
And so there's now a statuette of like, you know,
Batman in the style of Jim Lee and Batman in the style of Tim Sale.
And there's a Batman in the style of Mike Mignola, like Hellboy style.
Is it Mike Mignola in a Batman costume?
Yes, it is.
Is that what you're talking about?
It's real sweet.
Yeah.
But they look incredible and they're so dynamic and they're like a hundred bucks a piece.
Yeah.
And I wish I'd started collecting them from Go.
Because there's quite a lot of them now.
Because now there's like $3,000 worth of them and I'm not going to.
Yeah, exactly.
I kind of want them all, just line them up around the house kind of thing.
Maybe someone will send you one.
Or all of them.
Yes.
Yeah.
You know what's great about those they look like comic book versions like like they're literally just brought to life
yeah absolutely yeah or to statue correct great under the red hood though yep great i hope they
do it me too and if any i hope they do the long ha. I hope they do Court of Owls. Just pick really-
I hope they don't do Court of Owls.
Really?
It's a bit much.
Really?
Okay.
But yeah, like I think, yeah, Under the Red Hood definitely works because everybody in
the world is aware of Batman and Robin.
Yes.
And we know, you know, even if you don't know that Robin's origin is that he's an orphan because he was in the circus and his parents were killed and blah, blah, blah.
Now you do, because Mason just told you.
I just told you.
Everybody listen.
Mum and Dad, if you didn't know, that's the origin of Robin.
We're having fun.
Yep.
Anyway, everybody knows that Robin is, you know, Batman's partner and blah, blah, blah.
And now it's time to further that story along.
You don't have to go, and by the way, here the origin of robin and let's have a exactly a fun
movie with them as a team and then we'll do something else you can just go remember all
the times you saw the batman and robin tv series and all the comics and the cartoons and whatever
and batman forever yep then here's here's a continuation of that. It's time for that. And that's the benefit of this Batman being the age that he is,
like a 40-year-old Batman, which the Ben Affleck one is,
because you don't have to set all that stuff up.
It's already been set up.
And we've seen from the trailers that Jason Todd or A. Robin
has already been murdered.
So it looks like they're actually building towards this,
or they have been.
And Ben Affleck rumoured again to be directing it, which great.
Sure.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
As long as it's not your vision Affleck.
Just make Batman.
Shut up, Affleck.
It'll be fine.
Yeah, he's good.
So there's been talk this week as well of Indiana Jones returning.
Producer Frank Marshall.
Do you think that's a from like the the
back to the future fever that we got like a couple of weeks ago you think it's like bring back more
properties from the 80s yeah i don't do it i don't doubt it but he um frank marshall said that they
haven't sat down to discuss it yet but it's not going to be like a james bond thing where they're
going to call someone else Indiana Jones, which obviously makes
it sound like Harrison Ford is returning.
You know what could work though, if he's returning?
Yes.
The plan that they're doing for the new Die Hard, which is a set in the, you get old Bruce
Willis and then it flashes back to a young Bruce Willis.
Right.
That sounds terrible.
But for this, that could work possibly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sorry, my friend Lepre is messaging me.
God damn it, Lepre.
Couldn't you have a normal name?
It's such a nice message as well.
He's a son of a bitch.
Now he makes me look like a dickhead.
He's a bad bloke.
What were we talking about?
I don't remember.
Indiana Jones.
Oh, and Back to the Future.
Yes.
We didn't really talk about it.
Did you enjoy Back to the Future Fever last week? No. I made a video about it. Oh, and Back to the Future. Yes. Did you enjoy the... We didn't really talk about it. Did you enjoy Back to the Future Fever last week?
No.
I made a video about it.
Oh, you hated it.
That's right.
I saw that video.
No, I didn't hate it, but I hate, like, where's my hoverboard?
Oh, okay, yeah, that's true.
I deserve a hoverboard.
You don't deserve shit.
Like, shut up.
You're a bad person, like your friends.
Yes, that's right.
I quite liked, in all the people going crazy over it and i
know it was just an ad for the back to the future blu-rays but it was christopher lloyd he gets out
of the bloody gets out of the law and he says 2015 is not the same as we remember it because that's
because your future's not ready that was really nice and i'm like i can be whatever you want it
to be and i'm like oh i'm not crying you're crying and then I went out
and bought the blu-rays
I didn't
no
did um
I saw the Kimmel thing
my nostalgia only goes so far
absolutely
it extends
the line is blu-ray
yeah
is that right
yeah
yeah I saw
I watched the Kimmel thing
went for like
five minutes too long
right
what do you think of Kimmel
or any of those guys
do you mean
Kimmel or Fallon
no it was Kimmel
that one was on Kimmel.
Both of them.
What do you think of both of them?
They're fine.
That's right, right?
They have a bit of fun.
Yeah.
I've never watched a full episode
about any of their stuff.
No.
The occasional clip.
Fallon's got a good attitude.
He certainly does.
He's a fun, nice guy.
He gets a lot of people to do
little fun stuff.
That's right.
Yeah.
I'll watch the occasional clip
on YouTube, like you said.
What are we talking about? Indiana Jones. Yeah. But no, Back to the Future's right. Yeah. I'll watch the occasional clip on YouTube, like you said. What are we talking about?
Indiana Jones.
Yeah.
But no, Back to the Future is great.
You know what?
When we talked about Back to the Future last...
God damn it, Lepre.
When we talked about Back to the Future last week, I hadn't actually watched them.
And this week I watched one and two.
Yeah.
And you were dead on.
One is amazing.
Two is...
It's okay.
Yeah.
And you know what? I didn't realize it, but he's aged quite a lot in between. Like, it's okay. Yeah. Uh-huh. And you know what?
I didn't realize it, but he's aged quite a lot in between.
Like, it's quite noticeable.
Yeah, because it's like four years.
And then.
Looks like he's been doing some drinking.
And then.
He's got that drinking face.
Yeah.
And then not at all for the next 30 years.
Yeah, I know, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
Right?
I want to go.
Look, I did enjoy.
I liked it.
Still, I stand by it.
Start at two is good.
Yep. The end is good
when he goes back
it really picks up
when he goes to the 50s
yep
yeah anyway
we talked about that last week
or whatever week we talked about
yeah sure
anyway Indiana Jones
do you want to see Harrison Ford
we've talked about this before
whatever
yes or no
yes
great
if he can be dressed as a hot dog
that would be great
oh yeah we saw that
yeah we did
yeah
he looked pretty happy didn't he
no
as happy as he gets
yeah
as stoned as he gets
yeah
alright
so
I love him
look let's talk about
Power Rangers briefly
because I feel like we should
okay
I skip Power Rangers a lot
because it was kind of
just after my time
same here
so I got a lot of
hate in my heart for it
not hate
disinterest
that's the word
but look there was a rumour this week that the Power Rangers that show up weren't going to be Same here. So I've got a lot of hate in my heart for it. Not hate, disinterest. That's the word.
But look, there was a rumour this week that the Power Rangers that show up weren't going to be the original Rangers.
Like your bloody Billy and your Steve and the rest of them.
Sure.
I don't know the rest of them.
Gareth.
Gareth, yeah.
Chip.
Chip, yeah.
The blue one.
Trina?
Yep.
Trinity?
No.
I'm thinking of Matrix.
Yeah.
Pamela. Kimmy. I'm thinking of Matrix. Yeah. Pamela.
Kimmy.
Kimmy.
Anyway, we successfully named all the canonical Power Rangers just then.
Exactly.
Zardoz.
Zardoz.
And by that I mean Sean Connery in that weird Speedo thing that he wears in that movie Zardoz.
More like a nappy than a Speedo.
Yeah.
But there was a rumor that they were going to be given new names and they weren't going to jason jason was one of them there you go but it turns
out that they're just going to be called what they were originally the other rumor was so is
this a reboot or a continuation well i guess it's a reboot now because you could make it a continuation
if there are new characters i don't think it matters though is it still going to look like
garbage i hope so well okay how about this yes it's got a budget of though. Is it still going to look like garbage? I hope so. Well, okay, how about this? Yes.
It's got a budget of $35 million.
So it's going to look like garbage.
But, but, but, but, but.
They've cast relatively unknowns.
So a lot of that money.
So it'll be garbage from people who can't act.
It'll be a whole bunch of people who are just staring into the camera, just having garbage
piled upon them.
Yeah, fair enough.
I mean, but if you look at like, say,
you know, like an Avengers movie or Suicide Squad,
and if they're $200 million,
at least maybe just under half goes to...
Robert Downey Jr.
Yeah, goes to Robert Downey Jr. and cast.
But they won't have that.
They could throw them 500 grand each.
Yeah, not even.
Not even, yeah.
I mean, Chris Evans got 300 grand, right?
300 for the first Captain America, yeah.
And he got it in coin.
He sure did.
He had to show up every morning,
like at the ground floor of the Disney building,
of the Marvel Studios building,
and they flung a quarter down at him
and hit him in the head.
He had to scramble for it.
He had to scramble for it every morning for weeks.
He's still doing it.
Yeah, he's still doing it.
Collecting his money.
Yeah, he'll never stop.
Ping!
Ah!
I need that!
There was also a rumor that it's called Saban's Power Rangers.
Saban?
The guy who...
Yeah, Haim Saban.
Yeah, so what he did...
Yes.
He went and just bought this weird Japanese ninja force show.
I don't know what it was called.
It was probably called Weird Ninja Force Show.
It was from Japan.
Yeah, exactly.
And then he just got some Americans and just filmed that bit
and then just spliced it together.
And it's very noticeable.
So I guess he wants his name on it.
So now it's going to be called Saban's Power Rangers.
But, I guess.
That family, that household name.
Haim Saban.
I mean, that's a rumor.
You wouldn't do that, would you?
This isn't called James and Mason's podcast about comic books.
Oh, maybe it should be, though.
Maybe it should be.
Oh, but Mason and James.
Yeah, you're probably right.
But, why put Saban at the front?
That's so dumb.
It is so dumb. Saban's Mighty Morphin Power Ranger? I think it's just Saban at the front? That's so dumb It is so dumb
Saban's Mighty Morphin Power Ranger?
I think it's just Saban's Power Ranger
Do you think he's like
Look, I'm really rich but I'm not famous
So this is my chance
This is my Everest
This is my 8 mile moment
To finally become all I can be
This is my one opportunity
Let me tell you something
He's not going to get his 8 mile moment
With a $35 million unknown actor's Power Rangers movie.
No, I don't.
See, with that kind of budget, you're sort of damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.
Yeah.
In the sense that if they use just the people in suits.
Yeah.
You know, the robot men in suits kind of thing and the men in the rubber costumes or whatever.
Like, but fresh new footage. Yeah, it's going to look awful.
Yes.
But if you do $30 million worth of CGI, that's also going to look awful.
Look, I think a good example of that working well is District 9.
Yep.
A lot of unknowns.
I think all unknowns pretty much.
Stupid accents.
Stupid accents.
And all the money went into the special effects pretty much
and locations and probably catering. Yeah. And... Stupid accents. Stupid accents. And all the money went into the special effects, pretty much. And locations.
Yeah, okay.
And probably catering.
Yeah.
So, I think it can definitely be done.
We'll see, won't we?
But I'm saying, with the Power Ranger track record,
can it be done?
Will it be done?
Oh, no.
No, it won't.
Gem and the Holograms came out last week.
The trailer?
No, the movie.
Huh.
It definitely didn't crack the top five.
I don't think it cracked the top ten.
I wouldn't have heard it.
Yeah.
So apparently it's astronomically bad.
Oh, it's not that it was poorly marketed.
It's an actual bad film.
Yeah, it's both.
Oh, great.
I guess if it is such a bad film, you just sink it, I guess.
That's it.
Exactly. So Matthew McConaughey, you just sink it, I guess. That's it, exactly.
So Matthew McConaughey, according to Variety, I believe,
which means it's real, because they generally say real things.
They're as real as you get.
He reportedly turned down a villainous role in Guardians of the Galaxy 2.
Oh, that's a shame.
I would have liked to see that.
That is a shame.
But you know what that says to me?
What's that?
A, he's probably looking at other stuff, because he said he's wanted to do a comic book movie.
B, probably a Sahara sequel.
I want to see a Sahara sequel.
Me too!
Dirk Pitt.
Yes!
Dirk Pitt Adventures.
I mean, they could change the name of him.
Samuel Pitt.
That'll do it.
Thank you. But it also says to me that they're looking to cast a strong...
This is going to have a strong villain.
Because Marvel movies, one of the criticisms is,
aside from Chris Evans scrambling for coins,
Sure, yeah.
is that their villains aren't great.
He has to leave at his lunch hour to get those quarters.
Ping.
Ping.
But, yeah, the villains aren't great.
Sometimes you see him, he's chasing a rat.
Rat's got his quarter.
Come on, rat!
Yeah, but they don't have strong villains.
So if they're going for someone like a McConaughey,
that's not a throwaway role.
That means that that villain's going to be someone standout,
which is exciting.
Yes.
I don't know who.
Who's a good bloody...
Well, it can't be Thanos because he's taken.
Yeah.
Another kind of...
A Nihilus, maybe?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
I mean, he's all CGI, essentially.
Oh, yeah.
And he's got a weird big gaping mouth.
Just an empty void mouth.
So maybe it can't...
It needs to be somebody with a visible face.
Yeah.
Maybe Eternity or something.
Okay.
One of them cosmic ones.
Maybe Peter Quill's...
Maybe it's Ego the Living Planet. Imagine McC's maybe it's Ego the Living Planet
imagine McConaughey's
Ego the Living Planet
he would nail that
yeah
what about if
there's rumours of
Peter Quill's father in it
maybe he'd be
Peter Quill's father
because I could see that
that McConaughey could be
Chris Pratt's father
okay sure
if you aged up McConaughey
a little bit
he looks pretty haggard
these days
from son
not from like
he looks older, right?
Yeah.
He looks close to...
The passage of time
has affected him normally.
He looks the age he is.
Yeah.
But like a good version of that.
Yeah.
Look, I don't mean to throw
sand in his face,
Sahara style.
I like him a lot.
He'd love that, if anything.
Also,
Pom Klimtief,
who is an actress
who's been cast in this movie.
It's been confirmed.
Say the name again?
No.
Okay.
She is playing Mantis.
Huh.
And if you see her, you'd be like, yep, good.
That works.
So yeah, Mantis is like an alien, green alien woman with like little antennae.
For those who don't know, but now you do know, but you don't need that information.
You can forget till the movie comes out.
Pom Climteef. but now you do know but you don't need that information you can forget until the movie comes out Pom Klem
Teeth
Klem
Klem
and Teeth
K-L-E-M
E-N
T-I-E-F-F
oh okay
that makes more sense
than what I said
no
good
continue
great
so Alien 5
is on hold
oh because we don't know what's happening with Prometheus 2.
It's actually called Alien Paradise Lost Basin.
And that's what we have to call it from now on.
Let's just call it Prometheus 2.
Yeah, let's do that.
So that comes out 2017.
So it has to wait until at least that.
And then I'd imagine if this does well, they'll be like,
well, we have to wait till Prometheus 3.
Alien 5 is what I want to see though. And then I'd imagine if this does well, they'll be like, well, we have to wait till Prometheus 3. Yeah.
Alien 5 is what I want to see, though.
Nobody wants another Prometheus movie, let alone two.
And then Neil Blomkamp's going to get sick of waiting around.
Well, he has.
He announced that he's moving on to other stuff in between.
I think if Chappie had have done well.
Yeah.
Or even if, what was the one
he did before that?
Matt Damon.
Matt Damon's
Space Station.
Space Suit Man
robot jumps in space.
Elysium.
Yes.
I think if that did better
or Chappie even was
mildly well received
we didn't mind it
from memory.
Stupid accents
I remember it.
The Ant Board were in it for some accents, I remember it. The Ant Board
were in it for some reason.
I remember that.
But yeah, Ridley Scott's
just done The Martian.
So like he's
in everybody's good books again
and Blomkamp,
I guess he's not as much.
So that's not a priority.
But again,
I don't give a shit
about Prometheus.
I want to see Hicks and Ripley.
I kind of do though.
I kind of want to see
how the story plays out.
I do, I do.
But I'm bracing myself for incredible disappointment again.
Look, it just has to be written well.
That's what The Martian proved.
It doesn't even have to be written well.
It just has to be written so by the end we see an actual alien from the movie Aliens.
We're like, finally, moving on.
Yeah, great.
Yep.
Last bit of news.
Okay.
yeah great yep last bit of news okay uh iron fist could be a netflix movie as opposed to a series why is that i wonder would you remember we talked about a few weeks ago that uh
the rumor wasn't netflix and marvel were having trouble casting a casting and kind of getting a
series out of iron fist so if this is true it sounds like to me that they've gone,
maybe we can't get a series, but we've got enough, you know,
here to make a solid movie.
Right, okay.
Which is great, I think.
I think that's better to kind of be like acknowledge your limitations
and do this as opposed to just push through with something
which won't be necessarily a standard which you'd want.
Yeah, I'd rather not see them really spread out.
Yeah.
This, you know, because if, look,
the thing about Iron Fist is...
He's Iron Fist.
He sure is.
Yeah.
That's what he's got.
Just the one.
Just the one.
But if there's not a lot of Iron Fist,
if there's not a lot of storyline to go through
and they insist on doing the series,
it'll just be 15 minutes of training montage every episode, right?
Yes, him getting better at being iron fist.
Yeah, exactly.
Having his iron fists, plural.
Just iron fisting all about.
Yeah, and it's...
To the detriment of all.
If we don't have...
If it's going to be that, I would rather just see the movie.
Also, that's exciting to me where they're like look we've got minor characters we're not going to do
a series we're just going to make a movie a netflix movie we'll chuck bloody 10 million into it or
whatever that that sounds that sounds great i love it do all all of that i will get on it get out of
here i will i'll write some letters last thing i guess we should talk about um people have asked
us to talk about specter uh-. We can't talk about Spectre.
It's not out here yet.
It's not out here yet.
It's not even out here this week.
It's out here the week after.
Now, look, the twist is probably he's Blofeld.
If you could not email us spoilers.
Please don't tweet us.
Spoilers, yeah.
Spoilers, if you could.
Yeah, if you could.
I mean, if you really want to, I guess we can't stop you.
Can't stop you.
But we'd appreciate it.
We can block you, though.
Oh, yeah, I guess we could. Yeah. In real't stop you. But we'd appreciate it. We can block you, though. Oh, yeah, I guess we could.
Yeah.
In real life.
Yeah.
Just hand to the face.
No thank you.
I'd like to go unsurprised.
Me too.
And then talk about it.
So, yeah, we will talk about Spectre.
I mean, there's really only one surprise.
There's one or two surprises.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Whether or not Christoph Waltz is Blofeld and whether or not this is just a remake of On
Her Majesty's Secret Service.
Yes, exactly.
So don't tell us the answer to those things and i've i've had a few emails and i appreciate it in the subject header people are like specter spoilers so i'm like yeah
i'll get back to those and i will so if you have any important information that you'd rather as we
didn't read yes just put specter spoilers in the email and we won't raid them. Correct.
FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London.
One woman has a secret.
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FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss,
is now streaming on Disney+. Well, you know what this week was, though?
This weekend just gone.
Halloween!
The spookiest time of the year.
Spooky time!
Is it the spookiest time of the year?
I mean, maybe next to tax time.
I was going to say next to tax time!
Simpatico. Also, it was just tax time for us was going to say next to tax time. Simpatico.
Yep.
Also, it was just tax time for us.
It literally was.
Yes.
Bloody.
I don't like it.
We bloody took a bath, mate.
I mean, not literally.
That would be weird.
We did after.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Did you get up for much for Halloween?
Look, here's what I did.
Yep.
I was invited to two Halloween parties last night.
Yep. And what happens is my brain goes,. I was invited to two Halloween parties last night. Yep.
And what happens is my brain go, whenever I'm invited to more than two things, my brain
goes, you know what?
I could just not go to either of them.
The perfect crime.
I mean, obviously it's not the perfect crime.
No.
Because even if I was like, hey, I couldn't, I couldn't go to yours because I was going
to the other one.
Yeah.
Somebody's still getting offended.
Absolutely. But then I'm doing it to both people you're offending two people
pretty great what did you do i didn't do anything great i'm not against halloween
i i quite like the idea of it but what i what i hate is on facebook people are like i had some
kids come to my door and i was like no thank, thank you. That's an American tradition. We don't do that here in Australia.
Fuck off.
Who are you hurting?
Americans?
Yeah.
You're hurting kids, you dickhead.
Like, don't be mean to kids.
Just go to the supermarket and buy like a box of,
a little box, like a bag of those little fun-sized chocolate bars
for like three bucks.
Yep.
And just give them out until you run out.
Or put them in a bowl and leave it at the door.
Take one each on a system.
Leave me alone.
And don't touch the bowl.
Or just, you know what?
You can just buy a whole bunch of bags.
Yeah.
Wait until it's empty.
Sneak out when there's nobody around.
Fill it up again.
You don't have to talk to anyone.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So that's what I think about Halloween.
Yeah.
If people want to do it, great.
Also, how many of our traditions are Australian?
Fucking none of them.
Yep.
Like, why is it this one people get so upset about?
I don't know.
Like, we have like three traditions and all of them involve like...
Taking the day off.
Taking the day off or singing a song about a swagman who jumps into a river and kills
himself after stealing a sheep.
That's a famous Australian folk song.
Some people want it to be on National Anthem for some reason.
I don't know why.
Because it's about stealing.
Yeah, I guess so.
Yes.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
No, but I like seeing people bloody getting out there and putting costumes on and stuff.
Yeah.
Isn't your rule with costumes as well?
You have to be able to, within 10 seconds, remove something and then you look like you're dressed normally yeah all my
costumes uh or most of my halloween costumes made out of cardboard that's my rule yeah but
generally speaking my rule with with halloween costumes is one move it's regular clothes again
i've i'm trying to think of some ones that you've done because every time i see one of yours i go
well done uh i was beaker from the Muppet Show once
that was a good one I was made entirely of cardboard that was pretty good one move
take the head off regular clothes white shirt looking good yeah I was a giant
box of Special K one year big box one move regular clothes no clothes that time
oh boy yeah all great choices thank you uh but this
year no access to cardboard oh no yeah that's right yeah oh well maybe we can pull some strings
for next year i hope so yeah but look we thought because it is the scariest time of the year except
except for tax time uh and even though it's passed we thought we we talk about horror movie icons.
Are you cool with that?
Yeah, no, that's fine.
Now, I'm not talking like...
I was just thinking about Tax Time again.
Oh, yeah, of course.
I'm not talking like your classics, like your Frankenstein's monster and the mummy and the wolf man.
We're going to talk about modern day.
Yeah.
And those things we will...
The modern famous monsters.
We will talk about those at some point.
Maybe next Halloween's.
But I'm talking, you know, yeah, exactly like the ones you're're talking about and I just want to say from the top I am NOT a
horror movie guy uh-huh that's all I have to say right but I will still talk
about this at length now now what do you say you're not a horror movie guy you're
not you if a movie's out yeah it's horror themed yeah the movies yeah you're
just going out to the movies will you avoid avoid it or you'll see it anyway?
If I'm with other people, I'll see it.
But you're not going to seek it out?
No, never.
Literally never.
I think the last horror movie I saw at the cinema was maybe The Others.
And I didn't really like it.
Everyone was a ghost at the end.
The horror...
Spoiler alert.
Hang on, which one is that?
Is that the one with the cold kid?
That was like 10 years ago at least.
Yeah, I know.
What about...
I saw Cabin in the Woods.
There you go.
But I was away that year.
I was somewhere overseas.
I don't know.
Okay, so it doesn't count.
Well, I didn't see the movie.
What about Drag Me to Hell?
No, I was away that year as well.
I think you're a little bit more afraid of horror movies than you care to admit.
The fact that you leave the country rather than see them.
You know what?
You're probably not wrong.
Yeah.
Because whenever I do see a horror movie, I'm like, that's pretty scary.
Like so.
In terms of like, because you can break down horror into a lot of different genres.
Yeah.
And horror, I feel horror movie fans are like, not all, I'm painting with a very broad brush.
Sure.
So we're going to get less.
Paint away.
Yeah, but I feel that,
and again,
I'm sure, you know,
there are tons of,
with every genre,
there are people who are like,
yeah, you know,
let's enjoy what it is
and let's live and let live kind of thing.
Yeah.
But there are some people like,
this is what horror is.
Yep.
You cannot,
like Aliens,
not a horror movie.
Oh, okay.
So they're very specific.
Because it's sci-fi,
so it doesn't count.
It's got to be, you know. So what's Jason X? Is that not a horror movie? Maybe it isn movie. Oh, okay. So they're very specific. Because it's sci-fi, so it doesn't count. It's got to be, you know...
So what's Jason X?
Is that not a horror movie?
Maybe it isn't.
Oh, my God.
Or maybe that's Grandfather Dean because it's, you know,
because it's in the Jason series.
Oh, okay.
In Friday the 13th series.
But a lot, you know, people will be like,
oh, that's, you know, it's sci-fi or, you know, Event Horizon.
It's sci-fi, so it doesn't count kind of thing.
Alien is a slasher movie on a spaceship.
That's what I'm talking about.
What about Event Horizon?
That's a romantic comedy.
That's a scary movie, man.
That's a good movie, man.
Yeah.
Yeah, like, I don't like ghosts either because they annoy me.
They could get you.
Well, they could get me for one, but they annoy me.
Ghosts annoy you.
Yeah, because they're around the world.
I'd like to see a movie about that, about a guy who can see dead people and they just annoy him oh wasn't that
that was a movie yeah okay no because they're like all right well i'd like to see a movie about
that but it's not it doesn't have ricky gervais in it they're like i'd like to see most ricky
gervais movies without ricky gervais in them if i'm honest with you you know because they're like
i'm around you yeah great what about the fright about The Frighteners? I love The Frighteners.
But that's more a horror comedy.
Oh, look at this horror movie elitist.
Did I ever tell you that?
Oh, no.
The story about how I saw a ghost, but not really?
Look, you probably did, but I'm sure I tuned it out.
Let's hear it again.
Okay, I don't believe in- All our listeners weren't around us while you were telling the story, I assume.
So maybe tell it again and they can hear it.
Let me just state, I don't believe in ghosts.
But you're afraid of ghosts.
I ain't afraid of no ghost, mate.
Okay, sure.
So when I was at uni, I was living on campus.
That's university for short.
And my first night there, and it was before my housemates had moved in, two lovely young
ladies who are now dead.
No, they're fine.
You know them. Yeah, I've i've met them yeah they're great but i fell asleep and i thought that i woke up and there was a woman standing at the foot of my bed uh-huh and it was like literally
as i saw the room so obviously i was dreaming right and if my reaction was, what? And I just, and I kicked. Like I kicked.
You kicked a woman. Like, exactly.
Wow.
This does not paint you in a good light.
This dream sequence slash could have been real.
But in the kick, I woke myself up.
Okay.
And the room was exactly as it was.
So I was in between that dream and wake kind of state where some things were real and some
things weren't.
Anyway, I told people that story.
I'm like, like I was genuinely scared for a second so i thought there was a woman sitting at the
standing there to my bed and then that spread around that i'd seen this ghost and people kept
asking me and i'm like no i didn't say that i don't believe in ghosts so i spent like a good
few months explaining to people months oh wait days do you feel how do you feel this affected
you on campus do you feel it affected you on campus do you feel that
affected you positively or negatively i think no she went is this this is the uni that was sort of
in a semi-rural area yeah yeah that part was yeah i've been to a few do you feel they were
more accepting of your ghost story of when you saw the ghost because it was more rural and they're
like oh he's seen the ghost of wherever whatever this town is that we live in. I can't remember.
Yeah, I guess.
I just remember being asked about it and being annoyed.
That's what I remember.
I never saw it again.
I didn't live in fear.
I was just like, that was a thing that I now remember because so many people reminded me of it.
Yes.
Yeah.
Do you have a ghost story that's not real?
One time I made some pottery with Patrick Swayze.
Patrick Swayze's ghost?
Yeah.
He's dead.
Yes.
If you recall.
I recall.
He's literally dead now.
Well, that sounds kind of delightful.
Yeah, it was nice.
It was real nice.
Yeah.
Great.
Yeah.
So this week we're talking...
I asked him about that cop show he was in.
What did he say?
He had a good time. I bet he did. Yeah. Look, yeah. Great. Yeah. So this week we're talking... I asked him about that cop show he was in. What did he say? He had a good time.
I bet he did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Look, okay, so let's just go...
The Beast.
It was called The Beast.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So let's just go through horror movie icons and just say things that we like or don't
like about them.
Okay, great.
That sounds really good.
Hey, I have a list.
I have a list.
What is your list?
I just made a list of horror movie icons.
Oh, my list is horror movie icons in order of lethality.
I'm coughing.
I'm coughing.
You sure are.
Sorry, so is number one the most lethal?
Yes.
Let's start there then.
Oh, you don't want to go up?
Yeah, that's what I mean.
No, we'll go non-lethal.
Yeah, we'll start low.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sorry, that's what I meant to say.
Let's start low.
Okay.
This one says...
Okay, number 24. I'm going to skip a few of these because, again, I'm start low. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, that's what I meant to say. Let's start low. Okay. This one says... Okay.
Okay, number 24.
I'm going to skip a few of these because, again, I'm a horror movie elitist.
Yes.
Actually, that's not true.
You don't care.
You just want to talk about the ones you have something to say about.
Yes, I do.
All right.
24.
Pennywise the Clown from It.
Nine kills.
Okay.
Oh, it goes by how many people they actually killed.
Yes.
Well, that makes sense.
Lethal.
Yeah.
Sure.
Was the lethal weapon in movies count?
No!
Are guns count as monsters?
Movie monsters?
Guns?
Well, I mean, they're the scariest monsters of all in a way.
Certainly.
But no.
Other than Dracula's.
This whole thing's going to fall to pieces, I feel.
You got anything to say about Pennywise?
I never saw it.
Okay.
So I don't care.
Yeah.
What do you think about clowns
as terrifying things?
I don't like them.
So you're terrified of clowns?
No, I just don't.
What if I was a clown right now?
What if I tore my whole face off
and I was a clown?
So you have regular man makeup
and you tear it off
and you're like the Joker
from the first Batman movie.
But scarier.
Would you be scared?
Yeah, of course I would.
I'd be...
Ha!
Scared of clowns.
What?
You wouldn't be scared by that? No, I'd be pretty scared. I mean, I'd also be... clowns what you wouldn't be scared by that no i'd be pretty scared i mean i'd also be it depends what you did if you're like
check what i did i'll be like that's actually very impressive that i didn't notice that you
could that you've done that that you could do that yeah i'm more a magician than a clown in that case
that was a telly movie that was a two-part miniseries i've only seen it as the whole thing
yeah i've never he's a spider in the end isn isn't he? Yes, he is. Yeah, and it was Tim Curry.
Yes.
He terrified a lot of children.
Tim Curry, yeah.
Yes, just in his day-to-day life.
With his beady eyes.
Yeah.
He was also the voice of the Joker originally in Batman the Animated Series.
Oh, he was too.
Yeah, yeah.
But then he scared the animators with his beady eyes.
Yes, he did.
And the people in the voiceover booth.
And they're like, get him.
Get him out of here.
Call security, get rid of him.
Have you seen, there's like a craze that's kind of gone a bit viral
where scary clowns do things around the world?
Yes.
What do you think?
I was on a radio show and I'm sure you probably,
and I can't remember the name of it.
You're on so many radio shows that you don't even care.
I can't remember what it's called.
My friend Murphy did it.
He's not listening, but he can send me.
I'll find the link and I'll put it up on my Twitter.
Yeah.
And it was, we talked about weird news stories.
And one of them was just a weird clown in England.
Yeah.
Who just shows up and menaces people by doing nothing in particular.
He's just standing by the side of the road holding a balloon.
Yeah.
Just looking terrifying.
Yeah.
There's been a spate of them. Yes. Yeah. it's become like a thing around the world that people are doing i saw
footage of one where a like a clown will go up to somebody's security camera on their porch
and like just stand there and stare at it and then leave like stuff like that and that is
terrifying if that was me coulrophobia you know how okay if i saw that I would run out And punch that guy so hard
Like
Nothing would stop me
From doing that
Yeah
Great
Because that's weird
It's kind of weird
Don't stand on my porch
Yeah
Yeah but
Apparently
Clowns though
They don't use them
For parties anymore
Children demand
Superheroes
Superheroes
Exactly
Yeah
Because nobody wants
To see a clown
Then you need
How about the Joker Do you think there are Any little kids who are like I want clown. Then you need... How about the Joker?
Do you think there are any little kids who are like,
I want the Joker at my party?
I would say the Joker is less scary than most clowns.
Because aesthetically, he's quite pleasing.
Isn't he, though?
He's got that nice suit, usually.
It's a top bit of...
You know, got the tails going on.
Are you afraid of clowns?
No.
Yeah.
I do like your clown story.
You've told it before.
Do you want to tell it again?
Well, my one regret... Look, I don't Do you want to tell it again? Well my one regret
Look I don't have a lot of regrets in life
But one of my major regrets in life
Heroin abuse
Well that
That might have led to this
But look one day I was
I was driving to an event
And it was like
Out in Werribee or Whittlesea
One of those places that's quite far away
Somewhere crap
Somewhere crap
Anyway
I'm sorry to our four listeners in Whittlesea and Werribee.
But anyway, I was driving there and I got to like,
there's like a roundabout and like a country pub near the roundabout.
As there is in most roundabouts in Werribee.
Yeah, and it was kind of this big roundabout
and there's like nothingness in all the directions of this roundabout and there's like nothingness in, in, in all the directions of this roundabout. And I come up to it and this,
this van,
this sort of dirty white windowless van rolls through in this roundabout.
And it's,
it's like,
it's got the,
got the right of way.
So it rolls through.
And I see that in the,
in the driver's seat is like a man and he's got like,
I can see like,
like chest up and he's wearing just like a, like a checked flannel shirt and he's got, like I can see like chest up
and he's wearing just like a checked flannel shirt
and he's just kind of a regular guy
and he's kind of like balding or whatever
like in his 50s
but he's got full clown makeup on
and like it's a big van.
It's like quite a long frame van.
You saw it a long time coming.
Yeah, so it's like
and it had a real long turning circle
so it was taking forever
to get through this roundabout
and I'm just there staring at it.
And my one regret in life is I didn't wind my window down and lean bodily out of the car and go,
Get off the road, you clown!
But I didn't because there was a moment where I feared that he would loop all the way back around again
and crash into my car and murder me on the roundabout.
That's a legitimate fear that you had.
Yeah.
So I'm only afraid of that guy.
And that guy wasn't really a clown.
He was more the Snowtown murderer wearing clown makeup.
So anyway, we're talking about clowns.
Let's never do it again.
Who's next?
Well, there's a few.
The Candyman.
I never watched the Candyman.
Me neither.
He's the voice of the new Flash villain. Oh. I can't remember his name. But yeah there's a few. The Candyman. I never watched the Candyman. Me neither. He's the voice of the new Flash villain.
Oh.
Can't remember his name, but yeah.
There you go.
Let it face, Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
He was filled with bees, wasn't he?
Candyman?
Oh, he was filled with bees.
And you say his name three times and he'll fill you with bees.
Or you know he's there or something.
I don't know, man.
Yeah, you know he's there because of all the bees.
Yeah, man.
Because of all the artisanal jars in your kitchen that you use for drinking glasses.
They fill up with honey.
And you're like, oh, no.
Oh, no.
I mean, free honey, but oh, no.
I'm dead.
No, I can't enjoy this honey because I'm dead.
Do you think a lot of these creatures who have towels that they're coming, do you think
you'd just be like, I live in this universe, baseball bat?
Like, you'd just be like, you see a bee and you're like
Baseball bat, like straight up
Yeah I guess
I mean a lot of them are like they've got magic powers and shit
I think these days
If you encountered a
Like if there was a real life monster like the Candyman
Yeah
You would
If you
You would hear about it
And then what I would do is just go to Reddit,
and there'd be a thread on the horrible monster that's killing people,
and somebody would have figured out what its vulnerability is,
and then you'd be fine.
And it would probably be baseball bats.
Yeah, you'd be like, look, just get yourself a baseball bat,
and you'd be like, cool, awesome.
And then it wouldn't be a problem anymore.
Like, you know that one, It Follows?
I haven't seen it. Okay, right. I've heard it's good. I anymore. Like, you know that one, It Follows? I haven't seen it.
Okay, right.
I've heard it's good.
I should point out, I do like a good horror movie, but there's a lot of crap and I'm not sifting through it.
And I get no joy from, like, body horror and things like that and boring horror movies.
Torture porn.
I just don't give a shit.
Anyway, sorry, go on.
But I think, like...
That's a different thing, though, obviously.
Yeah, and the movie It Follows, essentially, it's a movie...
The premise is basically that there is a...
Like if you...
It's sort of an infection.
And if you have sex with somebody with that infection,
you are then...
You become the target of this creature that follows you at walking pace.
It follows.
Exactly.
And it can appear as anyone.
It follows.
Sorry, it doesn't apply.
Somebody you know or somebody, you know, just a random person.
Somebody you used to know.
I should point out Mason knows Gaultier.
A little bit.
I went to Japan with him once.
Yeah.
There's no story to that.
No.
Anyway, but yeah, and essentially if it catches you, it'll, like, tear you to pieces.
It'll horror you.
It'll horror you so bad.
Yeah.
So what you have to do is you have to find somebody, have sex with them.
Yeah.
And then the curse is passed to them.
Yeah.
And then what happens is if that monster kills them, then it comes after you.
Yes.
And then if it kills you, it comes after the person.
Yeah.
Who had, you know, previously.
Sure.
But I think if that existed in the real world, there would be a Reddit on that.
There would be a Reddit
and somebody would have built a calculation
to fix that.
They'd have been like,
okay, we're going to have a meetup
and you can have sex with you
and you can have sex with you
and you can have sex with you
and then you can fly over here
and you can do it.
And then they'd figure out a system
where it never bothered anyone.
Yeah, exactly.
Like they'd build up the whole scheduling system.
It'd just be a whole lot of links. links yeah it'd be a whole lot of links yeah
that's great i should see that movie yeah who's the next one oh you said leatherface look i'm
skipping a few but leatherface from the texas chainsaw massacre yeah 30 kills yep all right
fine i feel like that's the kind of guy where you'd see him coming because he does a lot of
screaming and he has a chainsaw well and he always starts straight away yeah because have you ever
seen a chainsaw start straight away?
It never happens.
I always see my dad sweating in the backyard
swearing over a chainsaw.
You go over to his house specifically for that.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
He's like, I'm going to chop down some trees today.
And you're like, I'm going to say this.
You just sit there in a lawn chair with a lemonade.
All right, go ahead, dad.
Good on you, mate.
Also, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre
just ends with...
A massacre?
No, it just ends with the last,
the final girl getting into a,
like, hailing down a truck.
Okay.
And she gets into the truck
and the truck drives off.
There was a sequel
called The New Beginning or something
and Matthew McConaughey
and Renee Zellweger
were in it in the 90s.
Oh, yeah.
But there was,
and Matthew McConaughey is quite open about it, Renee Zellweger not so much. And Matthew McConaughey and Renee Zellweger were in it in the 90s. Oh, yeah. But there was... And Matthew McConaughey is quite open about it.
Renee Zellweger, not so much.
But Matthew McConaughey knows he's done a bunch of crap, excluding Zahara.
And there's also a prequel, or I think it might have been a direct sequel that came
out a few years ago, which wasn't very good.
It used some of the original footage and some of the original cast.
And it kind of built on from that.
But I heard it wasn't very good.
But that's kind of the things... Like that and Hills Have hills have eyes. I'm like, I don't know.
I don't care about that. Do you not fear rural hillbillies? Yeah, sure. But I mean, you went
to university surrounded by rural hillbillies and ghosts. Look, I don't mean to talk myself
up. I'm not a physically intimidating person by any stretch, but I'm never really in fear
that I'm going to get beat up or overpowered. What if somebody's got a chainsaw? Yeah, but
that's different. I could run faster than a guy wielding a in fear that I'm going to get beat up or overpowered. What if somebody's got a chainsaw? Yeah, but that's different.
I could run faster than a guy wielding a chainsaw.
That I guarantee.
Yeah.
I'll get my own chainsaw.
I'll get it at my dad's house.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And as long as you've got like a 20 minute head start to actually start that thing.
Boy.
Are you scared of guys with chainsaws?
I'm scared of idiots with chainsaws.
Yeah, that's a legitimate fear.
Yeah, like a lunatic with a chainsaw.
Like that, you know, you just run for it.
You've got to make that special petrol mix that it is
because it's like two parts kerosene, not kerosene.
I don't know what it is, but, you know,
there's like a specific kind of mix.
It's a really good chainsaw performance.
Yeah, exactly.
But, yeah, I do feel like I go to a hardware store to pick something up.
Yeah.
You know, my one time a year that I do that.
Yeah.
And there's somebody just testing out chainsaws and he drops it on my foot.
Like, I'm concerned with that.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What do you have on your list?
Who do you got on your list?
I'll tell you where they exist in the...
Oh, this will probably be number one because he's up on my list.
Frederick Kruger.
He's not the top of
the list oh really isn't he yeah okay we'll get to that i guess freddy kruger 39 kills it's not
that many i guess i know right you think it would be more you know what though freddy kruger never
really seen 10 on this list okay yeah never really seen one of his movies all the way through
i as a kid when i saw that image of him yes and i remember i saw him come out of a wall
or a television or a door or something and i was like coming out of a door isn't that spectacular
when you think about it i'll come out of doors but like he morphed out of something or he was
in the wall or something and i remember going holy shit that's terror that's legitimately
terrifying now you look at it and it's laughable. Yeah. I think I saw him on the cover of like a Fangoria magazine or something like that.
And I'm like, this is, what is this?
Because he's...
He's horrifying.
But now I just see it and I'm like, ah, it's Robert Englund.
Exactly.
He's having a bit of fun.
Look at him with his funny knife fingers.
Good on him.
Exactly.
And I know, I mean, I know the first one was...
We know they're not real.
We know they're not real.
But like, it became more about puns and funny kills.
Yeah.
It was more like a cartoon.
Let's not mention he's a pedophile.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Oh.
Oh.
But what was really clever about that?
That also, you know what I find odd?
Because I saw one at PAX.
Yeah.
A pedophile.
No, probably.
I saw a few.
But a woman dressed as sexy freddy krueger
pedophile okay that's the scary part of that cosplay yeah yeah where's craven obviously
who died recently who he's responsible for another his dreams yes he's responsible for
another horror movie icon yeah which we will talk about a A more 90s one. What a great idea to be like, you're not safe when you sleep.
Yeah.
Like, that's terrifying.
Well done, you bastard.
So, but also, if Freddy, if you set him on fire, you could drag him into the real world.
Is that right?
No, if you're holding him when you wake up.
Oh, okay.
But isn't he, fire hurts him as well?
Oh, no, that's Jason.
No, Jason's water. Jason's water, yes. But I think Freddy's fire as well. It is Oh, okay. But isn't he, fire hurts him as well? Oh no, that's Jason. No, it's Jason's water.
Jason's water, yes.
But I think Freddy's fire as well.
It is fire, yes.
Yeah.
I think most of these guys,
it's fire though.
Sure, if you set Leatherface on fire,
I'm sure it'd sting a bit.
He'd hate fire.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, go ahead.
And that's all I have to say.
Okay, cool.
But that's the thing though,
that would be on a Reddit.
You'd be like,
yeah, just grab him and wake up.
It would, wouldn't it?
Yeah.
Also, isn't it,
if I'm like,
you're in my dream, I'd be like, well, I can, if you can
do anything, then surely I can do anything.
Well, see, that was the plot of some of the Nightmare on Elm Street.
It was, one of them was the Dream Warriors.
Yeah.
It's a group of people who sort of, who are aware of the deal there kind of thing.
Yeah.
And sort of train themselves to, and they have sort of dream personas that have more
abilities.
This is Inception.
Yeah, it was Inception. I'm thinking of the movie inception you are yeah yeah yeah any thoughts on freddy
krueger i guess terrifying when he's when i was a little kid not so much anymore i feel more like
the for me the the more disturbing movies these days are the hot like the home invasion kind of
movies like uh the strangers yes yeah
you've seen that
that's pretty
scary
too terrifying
yeah maybe
I wanted to ask you
about this
because I don't
know that much
about him
pinhead
from the Hellraiser
movie
yeah what's his deal
well 36 kills
not enough
I know
it's number 15
he's
weak as piss
mate
yeah I know
he's weak as piss
exactly
I've killed more
than the people
in that
yeah I don't even have any pins in my Yeah, I know. He's weak as piss. Exactly. I've killed more people than that. Yeah.
I don't even have any pins in my head.
That you know about.
He's a Cenobite.
Yep.
I think he's sort of a...
Which is sort of an alien dimensional race kind of guy.
The premise of all the Hellraiser movies is there's a box.
It's like a puzzle box.
Yep.
The name of which escapes me.
I'll think of it in a second.
Rubik's.
It's not a Rubik's Cube.
Oh.
That is also the devil's work.
Oh, it's called the lament configuration.
Oh, okay.
Because they're always lamenting.
I guess so.
Yeah.
And what you open it,
you crack it and he comes out
or he sucks you in or something.
It's a good week for us, isn't it?
Boy, it sure is.
He was also one of those characters that when I saw like, you know, like a fantasy.
As a child, too terrifying to watch the movies.
Or like, I'm sure I watched a VHS preview of like a Hellraiser movie.
Absolutely.
But now, laughable.
Yeah.
He's just a guy walking around with his little leather coat and his buddy.
Do you think that would scare kids now?
If you showed a kid that?
Probably.
He's got pins in his head.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I guess his vulnerability is you just get a little hammer and you tap.
You're right.
Tap all the pins into his brain.
I mean, they point in.
They don't point out.
That's true.
If anything, it's like walking on a bed of nails.
Right?
There's so many of them. Oh, yeah. He just. Even if you headbutt. You just headbutt him. That's true. If anything, it's like walking on a bed of nails, right? There's so many of them.
Oh, yeah.
He just...
Even if he headbutt...
He just headbutt him.
That's his vulnerability.
Fire also.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what does he...
Does he torture you?
Does he just straight up murder you?
What's his deal?
I can't remember.
All right.
I guess we'll move on from this one.
We can edit this out.
Ooh, here we go.
Yeah.
Pinhead was born Elliot Spencer.
Okay.
Not a scary name at all.
Opened the lament configuration after becoming disenchanted with human life from his service
in World War I.
Oh, so he's quite old.
Yes.
That's fair enough.
Serves the deity Leviathan.
Yeah.
By abducting other people who solve the puzzle box thing.
Just don't solve the puzzle box.
Exactly.
It's like a Rubik's Cube.
Stop being so bloody smart, mate.
Just put it down and walk away.
No one cares you're good at Rubik's Cubes.
Yeah, exactly.
Jesus.
Wouldn't it be funnier, though,
if you saw somebody just on the train or whatever,
just speed-solving a Rubik's Cube,
and they're like, ha-ha-ha,
and then a portal opened up
and they were sucked into a hell dimension?
That would be great.
That would be pretty good, right?
That would be amazing, yeah.
That would be amazing, yeah.
Look, I think the Hellraiser movies,
they just keep making them. And most of them aren't good. Yeah. By all accounts. We're going to get letters. Yeah. Look, I think the Hellraiser movies, they just keep making them.
And most of them aren't good.
Yeah.
By all accounts.
We're going to get letters.
Tell you what, if there's a big fan of Hellraiser out there, I know there was a remake in 2011,
which sort of brought it back.
This sort of brought it back to the original.
The status quo.
Yeah, it was sort of like your Nightmare on Elm Street.
Yeah.
Reboot, where they're like, let's make it scary again and not.
Yeah.
Just weird pop culture references and et cetera.
And all that, yeah.
That might be very good.
If somebody out there is a huge fan, let us know.
Yeah, yeah.
I would like to...
Tell us which is the best one.
Let Mason know on Twitter.
Yeah, do that.
I don't care.
Yeah, you absolutely don't care.
Yeah.
What about Michael Myers?
Ugh.
Guess how many kills?
I reckon a lot.
Yeah.
50 odd?
107. Is he number one? No. Oh. lot. 50 odd? 107.
Is he number one?
No.
Oh, this is a fun game.
Isn't it though?
I like it when you put in minimal work.
Yeah, isn't it?
Yeah.
No, I watched all these movies
and I counted them individually.
That's not true.
I think this is from moviepilot.com
or something like that.
Good work.
Now, this is a horror movie.
I actually saw H2O at the cinema.
Sure. Not knowing the history. It's Halloween H20. It is, sorry. It's not I actually saw H2O at the cinema. Sure.
Not knowing the history.
It's Halloween H20.
It is, sorry.
It's not.
It's H2O.
That confused a lot of people.
Including me to this day, apparently.
Yeah.
It's not Halloween H20.
There's no water in that film.
No, there certainly isn't.
But I didn't know his background or anything.
I'm like, is this Jason?
I don't know who this guy is.
Yes.
And I just remember laughing the entire time.
Yep.
I had fun.
It's like The Exorcist.
I laughed the entire time of The Exorcist.
Where did you see The Exorcist?
I can't remember.
It was like a sleepover party in the 90s or something.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
But do you know how Michael Myers was killed, though, in the end?
By Jamie Lee Curtis?
By Busta Rhymes.
Did not see that coming.
Even if you'd said which 90s rapper killed Michael Myers,
I wouldn't have guessed Busta Rhymes.
No.
That would have been like my 20th guess.
Yeah, absolutely.
I would have said Redman over Busta Rhymes.
Sure, makes more sense.
Yes, yeah.
He does some spin kicks into him, and I think a building collapses on him inuster Rhymes. Sure, makes more sense. He does some spin kicks into him
and I think a building collapses on him in a fire or something.
Fire, again.
Michael Myers has the habit of not being dead
when you think he's dead.
Like every movie kind of ends with him dying
from what I've seen.
You know what a great cinematic monster madness?
James Rolfe does a retrospective Halloween
kind of 30-day series every yearolfe does a retrospective Halloween kind of
30 day series
every year
where he does a new video
every day
generally
wow
and he's gone through
all the Halloween movies
all the Freddy Krueger movies
all the Godzilla movies
everything that you can imagine
and
so that's
where most of my knowledge
from this comes from
which is good on him
he's a buddy
he's good at what he does
okay so what's
Michael Myers' deal?
Okay, so he hates his sister, Jamie Lee Curtis.
Is he undead?
No, he's not.
But he takes a lot of damage.
Do you think he's on roids?
He might be.
He's probably on roids.
He's big.
And they remade it, didn't they?
Yes.
I want to say with Rob Zombie?
Let's assume it's rob zombie yeah i
might be wrong but apparently i've heard some people say it's really good but basically he
murdered somebody when he was little and so he was locked up for years and then when jamie lee
curtis curtis is like 16 17 he breaks out and he comes after her right and then it's the movie
halloween and halloween 2 is set like the next day where he wakes up in a mor So he's notoriously hard to kill, but he's not like Jason, where he's immortal.
Though Jason wasn't initially immortal.
No, correct.
But then he was a worm?
We'll get to him.
Yeah, sure.
Maybe at the end.
The one that I saw, don't spoil it, unless you haven't spoiled it, because that was so
subtle.
Maybe.
Stop it!
Okay.
The one that I saw, though, it ends with Jamie Lee Curtis pins him in a truck.
Yep.
And then he reaches his hand out to almost be like, forgiveness, please.
And she takes his head off with an axe.
Very good.
But then I find out, I haven't seen it, but the next movie, he swapped clothing and masks
with a paramedic.
Uh-huh.
And she killed a paramedic and he's out there
gallivanting about.
So that's pretty sweet.
Pretty good.
I don't know why he hates Jamie Lee Curtis so much.
Also Josh Hartnett's in that one.
He's got a weird bowl cut.
It's pretty good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Any other Mike Myers memories?
I just saw I married an ax murderer, but that's a different one.
I remember enjoying that.
Yeah.
I don't know whether it's good
got another one?
alright your mate, your favourite
he's not a movie monster so much
but he is a monster
but also a hero
Dexter from the show Dexter
he doesn't count
he's on this list
guess how many people he's killed
probably 40, 67
look he's not very good and I guess he is. Guess how many people he's killed. Probably 40. 67.
Really?
Yeah.
Look, he's not very good and I like him.
Did you like him initially?
Yes.
I did very much.
He's like dumb Batman.
But then I gave up on season two.
Yep.
To my betterment, I feel.
The John Lithgow season's good.
Yep.
Oh.
That was me, by the way.
I could also do the John Lithgow.
The one word John Lithgow impression.
Yeah, great.
Yeah, initially good.
And I don't know, it's not super well written.
And at the end, he just kind of gets away and he's a lumberjack.
That's true.
And at the end, he's like, isn't he like, I can't raise my child because I'm a serial killer.
Yeah.
But I'll leave him in the hands of a lady serial killer.
Exactly.
Yeah. That's exactly it. And he was doing a pretty bang-up job of it the other thing about that guy is the concept is great but absolutely yeah a serial killer that only kills serial
killers awesome yeah but now some but now they've ruined that so no one else could do it sure
thanks a lot thanks a lot, CB series Dexter.
God damn it.
But the reason they didn't kill him in the end,
because they wanted the,
apparently the end scene was initially going to be
Michael C. Hall was getting murdered.
Michael Shawl.
Michael Shawl.
Yes.
He was getting the electric chair
and everybody,
all these victims are kind of standing there watching him.
And it's kind of like,
so the whole seasons have been his flashback of all the people that he's killed but then they're like oh no we i
guess we want to use him at some point again so no oh sure we'll just have him be a six seasons
in a movie exactly yeah so that's pretty good i guess next who's on your list though chucky
from child's play yeah ridiculous i saw the oneended in a self-parody after like... Yes, immediately.
Yeah.
30 minutes in.
Yes.
He...
I saw the one where he has a baby.
With Jennifer Tilly.
I did not...
Like, all of that was just terrible for every reason.
Yeah.
Not funny.
I like Brad...
Demon sperm.
Yeah.
Brad Dourif was good.
Yeah, okay.
He's as good as the voice of Chucky.
Yeah, that's true.
But no, he's awful.
I hate him.
What do you like about...
Do you enjoy demon dolls?
You like a demon doll from time to time?
No.
Yeah.
Do you?
No.
No.
They're dumb.
Yeah, they are dumb.
Yeah.
What else is there about him, though?
Nothing.
Slappy from Goosebumps is kind of...
Do you know him?
No.
The ventriloquist dummy?
Oh, sure, yeah.
Yeah.
We should do a Goosebumps episode at some point as well. Okay. When Goosebumps is kind of... Do you know him? No. The ventriloquist dummy? Oh, sure, yeah. Yeah. We should do a Goosebumps episode at some point as well.
Okay.
When Goosebumps comes out?
Is that out already?
I think it's already been out.
Apparently it's not bad.
Readers beware.
See, people have said that, but I've never...
I never read the Goosebumps books.
Oh, so you don't give a shit, then?
And the plot seems to revolve around knowing things about the Goosebumps.
Okay.
The characters know things about Goosebumps books.
All you need to know is all the Goosebumps come into the world.
There's so many Goosebumps that become real it's like pixels
but better
Chucky 38 kills thumbs down
you suck and we hate you
but a lot of people like him
by the way if we hate these
we're sorry that if you like them
also a lot of these our memories are like
we have like 5 minutes worth of memories so maybe we're like them also a lot of these our memories are like we have like 5 minutes worth of memories
so maybe we're missing out on a lot of gold
maybe we're not though
does Norman Bates count?
yeah
what's that like 3?
17
in the movies?
or the TV series?
I have no other details here
there was a couple movies
yeah
is that a good movie
I don't even
I don't remember
the original Psycho
yeah
I mean apparently it is
or the remake of Psycho
with Vince Vaughn
the frame by frame remake
I haven't seen it
where you can see
a lot of Anne Hathaway
in one particular scene
it's a thing Kevin Smith
brings up a lot
and not Anne Hathaway
Anne Heche
Anne Heche I apologise
yeah
I apologise what about The Ring It's a thing Kevin Smith brings up a lot. And not Anne Hathaway, Anne Heche. Anne Heche, I apologize. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I apologize.
What about The Ring?
Japanese horror is a whole other thing.
I'll tell you what.
I watched that movie at home on DVD or whatever after it came out,
thinking, oh, yeah, I'll see what this is like.
That freaked the shit out of me, like legitimately.
Oh, yeah, sure.
And I was an adult. That combined a lot of...
You had your creeping horror.
Yeah.
You had this curse that was following people around.
You had very effective...
This is the remake.
Yes.
It had some very effective jump scares.
Yeah.
Because when you finally saw what became of people who were killed by the girl,
they had these terrifyingly twisted faces.
Distorted, yeah.
And that bit, spoiler alert, I guess, where she came out of the TV.
Yeah.
It's not a jump scare.
There were four Psycho movies.
That explains how many kills he got away with.
I guess that does.
Yeah.
When she crawls out of the TV, that's horrifying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good stuff. Yeah. But again, Reddit thread. Yeah, you're right. It would fix everything. Show someone else. Yeah. when she crawls out of the TV like that's horrifying yeah good stuff
yeah
but again
reddit thread
yeah you're right
would fix everything
show someone else
yeah
show someone else
we've got a schedule
we've got a whole bunch of
a bunch of weirdo volunteers
who are horror movie fans
who are quite willing to
you know what they do
they'd have a bloody
they'd have a
they'd have a psych
they'd have a
the ring party
yes
right
so there'd be a whole bunch
of separate rooms
yep with TVs and VCRs people would bring their VCR, they'd have a, the ring party. Yes. Right? So there'd be a whole bunch of separate rooms. Yep.
With TVs and VCRs.
People would bring their VCRs, they'd get, they'd be all enjoying the fun retro aspect
of it, right?
Yep.
And they'd get some, so the first person who's, who's been ring cursed would come in, right?
And they'd be like, Hey, there's this guy.
And he'd be like a celebrity kind of thing.
Right?
And he'd hand out copies of the video and everybody would be like, yay.
And all the horror movie fan weirdos would go into separate rooms and watch the videos
and then reconvene in six days or whatever.
I think it's three days.
Is it?
Seven days.
Seven days, sure.
So they'd reconvene in six and a half days.
Less days than when it happens.
Less days than when it happens.
And then they'd have a little seminar or whatever.
They'd probably do a podcast on it.
A debrief.
On their whatever.
And then they'd wait for the girl to come out of the TV, right?
Now hit her with a baseball bat!
And then they'd get somebody else to watch the video real quick.
Yeah.
And then the girl would have to come back out and go back in.
And everyone would go, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Idiots!
And then they'd do another podcast.
They would.
And then there'd be a reaction video.
There'd be so many reaction videos.
Do you think digital media would have killed that ghost, though?
I hope so.
Or do you think she'd make the jump to Blu-ray?
I think she'd probably turn into malware.
Okay.
Good stuff.
I didn't see the sequel.
I heard it wasn't as good.
I didn't see it either.
And I also didn't see the original.
But I think Japanese horror is a whole other thing that we could probably do.
I think a lot of people will be like, well, that's not authentic horror.
That's probably true.
It's not a slasher.
It's not a bloody...
That's a good point.
Fine, let's go slasher then.
Okay.
Ghost Face.
Oh, from Scream.
The Scream series.
From Scream.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like Scream.
I remember liking it a lot.
Do you think people would consider it authentic horror?
Because it's a...
It's like a throwback, I guess. It's a satire. Yeah. Of the whole genre. I think it's a lot. Do you think people consider it authentic horror? Because it's a... It's like a throwback, I guess.
It's a satire of the whole genre.
I think it's authentic horror.
Yeah.
I think what is interesting about horror now
is the idea that people,
that creators and fans are sort of embracing the idea that
if you're in a horror movie,
you've also seen some horror movies.
Absolutely, yeah.
You understand...
Rules of things.
You understand rules and tropes and et cetera.
Yeah, yeah.
This is Wes Craven's other.
Correct, yes.
It's got some legitimate scares in it.
There's a lot of kind of cheap kind of jump scares in it as well.
Yes.
But what I remember thinking was pretty funny about that
or interesting about that movie was the killer wasn't completely adept.
Like he'd run in and he'd trip over a couch
and go tumbling and do you know what I mean?
Or he'd get like,
he'd get caught on a flight of stairs.
And then sometimes he'd just be smoking weed
with the Wayans brothers.
You know what I mean?
I know exactly what you mean.
Yeah, that's right.
Sometimes he'd do a rap.
You know?
I know what you mean.
Yeah.
Leslie Nielsen sometimes.
Yeah, sometimes Leslie Nielsen.
But no, I think that kind of put an end to all those kind of,
you're Freddy Krueger's, you're Jason Voorhees, you're bloody all those.
And I think that really kind of stomped on it.
Do you know what I mean?
And it's never kind of gotten back to that because of Scream.
Like that kind of level of self-awareness.
There's four movies yes yes and they're all and there's a tv series on net there is which i think is it might be a
continuation yes but i might very well be wrong i like that mask though it's pretty good i guess
sure like the voice changer yeah it's all great man and everybody's like everybody's mom was
having an affair with someone's dad and that's
why they're the killer or something.
They all end like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's pretty good.
Yeah.
From memory.
I mean, I'm sure it's very 90s in hindsight.
Oh yeah, that kills a lot of movies, I feel.
And Jay and Silent Bob are in the third one.
They make a cameo.
Okay, not a, not a, it's actually Jay and Silent Bob. I believe so. I haven't seen that one. Yeah, it's not that good. Okay. Not a... It's actually Giant Silent Bob.
I believe so.
I haven't seen that one.
Yeah.
It's not that good.
Okay, great.
Yeah.
One and two, not bad.
Any more?
How about Jigsaw from Saw?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
What are we at time-wise?
What are we doing?
We're just under an hour 20.
Okay.
God.
A couple more?
Yeah, sure.
All right.
Jigsaw, I saw the first Saw.
I quite liked it.
Don't give a shit about that show.
That's Australia's own.
It is.
Lee Whannell and the other guy.
To Lee Whannell's credit, he's really gone on to do other stuff.
He just let that series take off by itself and he just collected checks.
And he's gone and done other stuff.
Give me an example of another thing he's done.
He did The Conjuring.
Did he do one of the...
Give me an example of another thing he's done. He did The Conjuring. Did he do one of the... Give me an example of something I've seen.
I'm not looking it up.
Of course not.
That tapping you here is...
Sorry, sorry.
James Wan, I meant to say he's gone and done more stuff.
He did Insidious.
He did Furious 7.
I thought he did.
Yeah.
That's pretty good. He directed Furious 7. Yeah, I know, right 7. I thought he did. Yeah. That's pretty good.
He directed Furious 7.
Yeah, I know, right?
Surprise.
There you go.
Yeah, so.
Well done, Lee Whannell.
You've done it again.
No, James Wan.
Oh.
Lee Whannell is the not as good guy, I guess.
Great.
Oh, he's doing Aquaman.
Oh, okay, great.
We've talked about this.
I don't listen to this show.
But I remember quite liking Saw, but I remember thinking, I don't need to see 50 of these,
which there have been.
So, no.
What do you think of that movie?
All the Saw movies?
Yeah.
Again, Reddit thread would solve all this.
Yes.
Just act like you're living your life to the fullest.
How many Saw... It was nice to see Carrie Elwes.
Oh, okay.
Right.
Yeah, he's good.
It was nice to see Carrie Elwes.
Oh, okay, right.
Yeah, he's good.
Lee Winnells only directed Insidious Chapter 3,
which is out this year.
There you go. But he's obviously produced a bunch of other stuff
and written a bunch of stuff.
Yeah, I don't know.
That mythology apparently got very complicated,
but a lot of people like that about it,
that it's so ridiculous and over the top.
People are just there for the kills.
And also, some of the Saw movies exist concurrently with other ones.
Yes.
Like some take place at the same time.
Some have Donnie Wahlberg in them.
Some have Donnie Wahlberg in them.
Specifically the second one.
Some have the secretary from bloody...
Becca.
From Becca in them.
She ends up being the killer in one of them as well.
Yes, she does, yeah.
See, when you say...
How many kills did you say this guy's gotten?
60. See, he hasn't gotten 60. That jigsaw, the persona has gotten 60. Correct. Yeah. There you
go. In your face Tobin Bell. That's right. That's the guy. The jigsaw killer. The original one.
They keep bringing him back somehow as well. Do you know The Creeper? Are you familiar with him?
It's from Jeepers Creepers.
Oh, yeah.
They're on my list.
Yeah.
Number 21.
Yeah.
Apparently quite a good movie, which I haven't seen.
What is the premise of Jeepers Creepers?
Some kind of cave or sewer dwelling flying monster.
That's all you get from me.
We'll edit this one out.
I've got one more.
Okay, I'm ready.
Hook Hand Guy from I Know What You Did Last Summer.
Oh, Hook Hand Guy.
He was kind of terrifying at the time.
He knew what they did last summer.
He was well aware.
Yep.
Which was that they hit him with a car and thought they'd killed him,
but they hadn't killed him.
Yep.
But it turned out that he happened to be a murderer, so it was okay that's true yeah yeah that's from what i know i saw the second one where he still
knew what they did and he rigged a radio competition radio i think it was a fake radio
competition yeah yeah where his son was the killer his son was called that's right his last name was
benson yeah because the killer's name was Ben.
And so he's Ben's son.
Yeah.
And everybody went, and he's like, how come you didn't get that?
I'm clearly the killer's son.
Uh-huh.
And he gets shot at the end.
I don't know.
Maybe there was a third one.
It's not important.
Well, I feel like that went as well as it could have gone.
We've got one more, though.
Oh, what is it?
Well, number one.
It's Jason Voorhees.
Of course.
Yeah.
Yeah, he kills a lot of people.
The king of the killers.
He's at number one.
How many?
Well, it says here 146, but I don't think that's necessarily true.
Take that.
I think it's less than that.
Yeah.
Because he doesn't kill anyone in front of the...
Well, he kills his mother in...
His mother does all the killing in front of the one.
Part one, yeah.
He gets one kill by dragging her into the lake. But isn't that a dream no that's real but in the second movie doesn't she wake
up from that no i think that might be true okay right if it's not who cares but i mean in five
that's a copycat killer okay i think this is including all the person okay but still even
if you take that it's still like 120 or something like that. Okay, great. Good for him.
Yeah.
I know, right?
Good on him.
At what point does he go supernatural?
I guess always, because he's dead?
Yeah.
Or was he dead?
Did he die?
Well, he died in four.
But did he die initially?
Because he was a drowned boy.
Yeah, I guess he was always technically supernatural.
Yes.
In a way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
yeah i guess he was always technically supernatural yes in a way yeah yeah but then in he was killed in four like for good yep and then copycat killer in five yep and then six
he was struck by lightning and he came back to life i think good uh they were just like whatever
yeah exactly we're gonna contrive away. He doesn't get the hockey mask till three, I think.
Okay.
Yeah.
Great.
Then 80 goes on holiday to Manhattan.
Delightful.
Yep.
Nine, they kill him again.
Ten, he goes into space.
Which one does he go to hell?
Eight.
Good.
I think it's eight.
So, and then there's Freddy versus Jason.
Yes.
Which I don't remember hating.
No, it's a good time.
I think we saw it together, actually.
Yeah, we did, yeah. And it was a draw, or he beat Freddy, but Freddy was alive. Yes. Which I don't remember hating. No, it's a good time. I think we saw it together, actually. Yeah, we did. Yeah.
And it was a draw or he beat Freddy, but Freddy was alive.
Well, yeah, look, I think people will argue.
I mean, fans will argue.
People who care will argue.
People who care will definitely argue.
Yeah.
I remember Jason coming out on top in that one.
Yeah.
But maybe because he's the good guy in that.
Oh, because Freddy's using him to manipulate him to kill people
to get people scared of Freddy again or something.
Because Freddy's not a full power.
Do you think they flipped a coin when they wrote that movie
to determine who the bad guy would be?
Probably.
I think they just filmed two endings.
Yeah.
And just went, yeah, this one.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
But I remember thinking that movie was a bit of fun.
Like, because I've got no investment in any of these characters.
Like, I don't really care.
I remember Freddy looks like he kills him.
And then doesn't Jason tear off his arm and stab him with it or something?
Most likely.
Yeah.
And then he goes to space.
But I think that was prior.
He went to space first.
Yes.
But also in the future.
It was the future, yeah.
Good stuff. Yeah. Well, like I said, that also in the future. It was the future, yeah. Good stuff.
Well, like I said, that went about as
well as it could have gone. Yep.
Do you agree? Yes. Great.
Any other comments?
No.
I have a comment. Yes. Maybe we should be more
informed before we talk about things. No.
No. No.
Why would we? Good enough.
You know what it's time for then
What's it time for
It's time for your favourite segment of the show
The end
And then I drink
What are we reading
Oh what are we going to read
Yeah
I'm doing the thing
What are we reading
Today
What are you reading Well? What are you reading?
Well, this week I watched...
Have you seen They Came Together?
I've seen the start of it and I quickly wore thin.
Did it really?
I really enjoyed it initially, but then I was like, yeah.
Well, I think you should stick with it.
Because I really enjoyed it all the way through.
Okay.
How dare you?
I apologise.
So for anyone who doesn't know, it's not Halloween themed.
No.
Even slightly.
Although I think there is a Halloween party in it.
That's how I'm justifying it.
Good work.
Yeah, so it's Paul Rudd and Amy Poehler.
Yep.
They're explaining over dinner to another couple how they met.
And they talk about how it's just a classic cliched.
Yes.
It's like a classic cliched romantic comedy.
And then they explain it all at length.
And it's by david wayne
who directed and created wet hot american summer oh yeah yeah the the movie and the tv series
and it is i think it's super funny i really very much plays with the cliches of the romantic
comedy i really enjoy the bit where paul rod goes into his office and his best buddy's there and
he's like hey my best buddy yeah there's that yeah you're right i should go back to it it's
very funny.
All right.
Done.
A lot of classic cameos
from some of your faves.
Some of my faves.
Yeah.
Punky Brewster?
Punky Brewster is not in it.
Interesting.
Also named Soleil Moonfry.
Is that true?
Yeah.
Did you change that?
No.
She should.
Yeah.
She should.
She should.
Yeah.
It's probably too late.
You know, I've been reading.
I bought it ages ago,
but I'm finally getting around to it.
Yes.
Alias.
The Jessica Jones.
Jessica Jones series.
It's really good, right?
It's amazing.
Like, it's genuinely amazing.
That's right.
I can see why everybody loves it.
Yeah.
And I'm glad they're turning it into a TV series.
That's got me even more excited for it.
Yeah.
And that was one of the earliest comics on marvel's max
imprint which isn't really around anymore yes so it was like the first word is a swear word yeah it
is yeah but it's not i feel the max marvel's max imprint could be pretty evenly divided into
books that were kind of in the in the on the imprint because they were more mature age and they were,
you know,
adult subjects and,
you know,
more,
more complicated storylines and just comic books that were just like,
let's have a lot of sex and violence and swearing.
Cause it's funny.
Yeah,
absolutely.
There was a Nick Fury series on there that was very much the latter.
Oh,
okay.
Like,
yeah,
I don't know.
I'm not,
I'm not familiar with it. You love Punisher Max though, don't you? Punisher Max was very much the latter. Oh, okay. Just like, yeah. I don't know. I'm not familiar with it.
You love Punisher Max though, don't you?
Punisher Max was very good, yeah.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Yeah.
What else do you like?
Just generally.
Yeah.
Walks in the park.
Just a long walk.
I like a hike.
I like a hike.
Yeah, hikes.
Buddy, take a hike then.
Can I put on appropriate shoes?
Yeah, you can do that.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
Also, I'm probably going to watch
because we're talking
about horror movies
there's a movie
that I think it's
on on demand now
it's on iTunes
it's called
The Final Girls
yeah
we haven't really
talked about it
but the trope
in horror movies
is that
at the end
there's always
just one woman left
like everybody else
is dead
but we've got left
the final girl
yeah
and the idea
behind that
as I understand it is that you know a lot of people be like well it's kind of you know it's
kind of feminist because women hooray and etc sure but i think the the idea behind it was originally
that you want somebody you want one person left at the end to triumph but also you want them to
experience abject terror yes that is the point of the horror movie.
That's like Cabin in the Woods stuff.
And movie studios were like at the time,
well, you can't have a man experience abject terror
because he's a man.
So they got to make it a girl.
Good point.
So it was more just, I don't know.
A man will kick a ghost at the end of his bed.
Yeah, exactly.
Just exactly.
A real man.
So it was just like a more narrative, like a business decision. Yeah, exactly. Just exactly. A real man. So it was just like a, more a narrative,
like a business decision.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah.
But this series?
Oh, it's called The Final Girl
and it's a movie.
Oh, sorry.
Seemingly composed entirely
of final girls.
Okay.
Like that's the entire cast.
Like it's a,
this woman who,
like her mother's died
and she was like a famous scream,
like a,
she was a famous final girl
in the 80s kind of thing,
like a scream queen.
And this woman, she finds herself and her friends
pulled into, like, the mother's most famous movie.
Okay.
Camp Bloodbath.
Right, right.
And they've sort of got to fight off the killer.
But, of course, they know all the tropes and stuff like that.
I think I've seen a trailer for that.
Have you?
Okay.
Is it a comedy-ish as well?
Yeah, it's comedy.
It's comedy horror. It's got Marlon Ackerman in it. Okay. Yeah, yeah. She's great. Good stuff like that. I think I've seen a trailer for that. Have you? Okay. Is it a comedy-ish as well? Yeah, it's comedy. It's comedy horror.
It's got Marlon Ackerman in it.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
She's great.
Good stuff.
Yeah.
I will watch that, I think, also.
I will also watch it.
Because it looks pretty sweet.
And maybe we'll have some informed opinions about it later, but probably not.
I just want to mention as well, Supergirl aired this week, and I missed it.
And I want to go back and watch it.
I've heard mixed things.
I've heard there's an excellent... Patton Oswalt on Twitter said there's an excellent fight
sequence in it.
Cool.
All right.
All for it.
I trust that guy.
Me too.
With my life and yours.
Oh no.
More yours.
So I'll definitely get around to that this week.
Well, you know, let's do some letters then.
But before we do letters, you have to do that thing that you have to do.
We forget it sometimes.
Look, every week you refuse to edit in another letter's theme.
I refuse.
Because it's more work for you.
Correct.
So what I like to do is if the listeners would like to send in,
they'd like to create their own theme, put it up on YouTube,
tweet me the link to it, and maybe I'll play it just through my phone.
Because that's the only way we bloody get things done.
So anyway, last week we forgot and of course we couldn't go back
and edit one in because that defeats the
conceit of the bit we're doing exactly
so if we forget that's it
but anyway we've got one this week ask for horror movie
themed themes so here's one
I don't have the
the creator listed
but I'll get it in a second
but here it is
here we go
I'm ready
alright
so next week I guess
we're probably going to do a horror movie
or a horror comics themed episode
so if anyone wants to send in a horror themed
that would be so good
that would be pretty good
we'll just send somebody going letters over and over
and go ooo over the top
that's fine sir
I'll be equally scared
edit this together you say letters letters someone do something with that
the letters theme that everyone wants but james refuses to edit in
i refuse oh he's done it again
letters
letters letters Oh, he's done it again. Letters.
Letters.
Letters.
Letters.
I refuse.
Letters.
Letters.
So spooky.
So spooky.
Letters.
Letters.
I refuse.
The lettuce theme that everyone wants. I refuse. James, you're a dick. Letters. I refuse. The latest thing that everyone wants.
I refuse.
James, you're a dick.
Letters.
It's a lion.
Horror movie.
Letters.
Horror movie.
Horror movie.
Letters.
Equally scared.
James, you're a dick. You're a dick. You're a dick. you're a dick
you're a dick
you're a dick
you're a dick
pretty good right
that was from
Samuel Raycraft
Cat Levy
that is insane
that's excellent work
normally
like
that was lengthy
but I enjoyed all of that
very good
good work Samuel
yeah
I'm in a way
I'm too scared
to listen to these letters
I'm too scared now
now let's listen to the first letter.
Isn't a letter.
It's a tweet.
So maybe that'll ease you into it.
Like I said last week and probably the week before,
if you hashtag weekly planet pod and Twitter,
one of us at Wikipedia Brown or at Mr.
Sunday movies,
I'll just throw it out there.
We'll have a look and we'll try and do some Twitter questions as well.
You know,
it's,
this is from dynamite Scott.
He says,
what are your favorite nineties action movies?
Some of mine are speed mask of Zorro, the edge point break, as well. You know it. This is from Dynamite Scott. He says, what are your favourite 90s action movies?
Some of mine are Speed,
Mask of Zorro,
The Edge,
Point Break,
Rumble in the Bronx
and Time Cop.
Man, I really loved
Rumble in the Bronx
when it came out.
Yeah.
Like that was the first
because Jackie Chan
had been making movies
for ages.
Yeah.
But I had no idea.
Yeah.
But just that
just that frenetic pace
and the weird dubbing
and the time he fights a guy by hitting him about the face with a fridge
and just the stunt blooper reel at the end.
Where he's just getting hurt.
Where he clearly breaks his ankle and they just put a weird,
they put a cast that just looks like one of his shoes.
They spray it so it looks like a shoe and then they put that back on.
And he bloody goes at it again yeah cool good stuff i've just got a really look i'd love to do an episode on this oh totally really quick list for me yeah uh speed obviously die hard three
is great die with the vengeance yeah okay um the matrix yes True Lies. Yes, that's one of the best.
Yep.
The Mummy.
I mean, there's some weird bits.
Yes.
We'll get to it.
Sure.
We'll get to it.
The Mummy, I really enjoy.
I did enjoy it.
Starship Troopers.
Double Impact, but not because I've seen it.
Because you gave me a wood-mounted Double Impact poster once.
Yeah, for your birthday or Christmas or something.
Do you remember?
Yeah, I remember.
Oh, I remember.
He also gave me a wood-mounted Bon Jovi poster. Oh, yeah. I did that christmas yeah i remember oh i remember he also gave me a wood
mounted bon jovi poster oh yeah i did that a lot i remember now where he's it's bon jovi like
shoulder deep in water naked and he's got a thorn of rose thought of crown of roses and he's holding
out a rose to the person who's looking at the poster yeah and. And I just, whenever I moved, I took that with me for years.
Yeah, I remember.
I don't know where it is now.
But yeah.
And I remember
the Double Impact poster said,
because it's twins
and both of them are Van Damme,
and it says,
one packs a punch.
One packs a piece.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Some of the best.
That poster's probably
the best thing about that movie.
Any more?
But we'll do an episode on that.
Oh boy.
Look, face off. Yeah. I enjoyed that a lot like it's ridiculous yeah exactly but yeah uh the rock the rock also yeah that's great
i feel a lot of people have a lot of love for con air okay yeah i like don't so much okay like if
i'm gonna pick one of those i'm gonna pick kind of a jerry bruckheimer yeah kind of i think i'll
go with something else.
Yeah, yeah.
Fair enough.
Man.
Because Face Off is just Travolta and Cage just being each other and just mugging and just shooting.
Yeah.
And doves.
Yeah.
Just two-handed some golden guns and just speed boats.
Spinning around.
Spinning about.
Oh, so good.
Universal Soldier.
I barely remember it.
Yeah, I don't know if it's going to hold up,
but there was definitely a necklace of ears in that.
Bad Boys 1.
Never seen it.
I've seen 2 and I hated it, so I'm never going back.
Here's the thing.
If you'd seen 1, you would have hated 2 all the more.
Bad Boys 1 is pretty good.
But again, I haven't seen it since it came out, which was like 95.
Okay, sure.
Well, they're making a third one, so we'll get to that, won't we?
Pick a Steven Seagal movie.
Under Siege?
Executive Decision.
Nate, but it's not really...
He's still in it.
Yeah, all right, fine.
All right, fair.
Under Siege 2.
Yeah.
Really?
The one on the train?
What's the one where he goes into the bar, he's looking for Johnny Lupo, and he beats
up like 20 guys?
Do you remember this?
It could have been any of them.
It's really good.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
Did I show you the Aikido footage of Steven Seagal?
No, I was showing my brother.
Uh-huh.
Look up Aikido Steven Seagal Russian demonstration.
Oh, yes.
It's Steven Seagal thinking that he's good at Aikido
and everybody else
just flipping away from him.
Guy's a dickhead.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Great.
Like, for not just because
his movies are mostly bad
because he seems like
a genuine dickhead.
Yeah, that's very true.
Yeah.
Anyway,
we'll do an episode on that.
Just the 90s.
Yeah.
Maybe next week,
but maybe not.
Maybe not.
Yeah.
Got another letter here.
Okay, I'm ready.
Do you want to say
some more 90s things? No, I'm just looking at a list. Good, good. Hey, go. not. Maybe not. Yeah. Got another letter here. Okay, I'm ready. Do you want to say some more 90s things?
No, I'm just looking at a list.
Good, good.
Hey, goat.
I think we got it all.
We did, didn't we?
Hey, goat man and the guy, it's Ryan from Scotland.
I was just wondering if you think we'll see Peter Parker and Jessica Jones,
because in the comics they went to school together.
Thanks, keep up the good work.
P.S., can I be the official Scottish goat of the podcast?
Yes.
Yes.
No. We won't yes no we won't
we absolutely won't
she looks
in this universe
she's obviously
older than him
yeah
because he's
like gonna be
15, 16
yeah
and she's
30 minimum
sure yeah
she's however
old Kristen Ritter is
exactly
I would assume
yeah
because in the
comic book she's sort of been interwoven into yeah yeah uh yeah because in the in the comic book she has
sort of been interwoven into his backs yes peter parker's backstory in the sense that she was
like interested in him romantically kind of thing yeah he never really he was sort of oblivious yes
because he was too busy with his book learning yeah it's yeah i like that idea but i know i
don't think it it wouldn't it couldn't it... It couldn't work in this current incarnation.
But maybe she got kept down.
Maybe they did.
Maybe they did.
Like 15 years.
Yeah, that's right.
Ooh.
Okay, his last letter.
I'm ready.
Hey, Mick and Nathan.
I recently saw a video...
Speaking of which, we got...
Xena Warrior Princess.
We got Xena Warrior.
We got Lucy Lawless herself saying our famous catchphrase,
grab that gem.
And also Tommy Wiseau.
From the creator of The Room.
Lunatic from The Room.
Lunatic from The Room, which is pretty excellent.
Thanks to everybody who keeps making those happen.
We love it.
We love them.
Also, I like to think that there's now,
there's like some celebrity,
like celebrities are getting together and being like,
did you, did somebody make you so, what is, what's going on there?
How do you, like maybe there's a Reddit.
Maybe there is a Reddit.
Celebrities just going in there going, what, what happened?
Speaking of Reddit, I do enjoy the Reddit that people make.
I do visit it.
Um, it's, is it the weekly planet on Reddit?
Yes.
There's a bunch of good, so people normally put them up there if you want to see them.
Yes.
Yeah.
Anyway, this, uh, I recently saw a video of Star Wars fan theories,
which I'd like to hear your opinion on,
particularly the one where Han is Force-sensitive but doesn't know it.
The explanation is basically that he's really insanely lucky
being able to navigate an asteroid field at basically impossible odds
and, in the current canon, dodge Greedo's blaster bolt from a few feet away
with a CGI head tilt and fire
back almost immediately.
Now, you love a good Star Wars fan theory.
No.
You're indifferent to a good Star Wars fan theory.
You know what?
I am getting sick of fan theories.
There you go.
Now everything's linked to everything else.
You've become a real curmudgeon.
Yeah, but maybe Harry Potter's really in a different universe
and he's a time traveller
and he's a time lord.
Maybe he is in a real different universe.
I mean, he is a time traveller as well.
Yeah, exactly.
Both of those things are certainly true.
What happened to that time turner thing?
Could have bloody used it
in the last couple of movies, eh?
Absolutely.
In all of those movies.
I just saw a theory that
Jar Jar Binks is force sensitive.
Yep.
In fact, he's a,
he's a,
he's the equivalent of the theory goes essentially that he is,
that he is some sort of Jedi master,
but in like the equivalent of like drunken Kung Fu style.
Okay.
Right.
Which is why he's kind of,
you know,
he's,
you know,
at one point,
at one point he like,
he's,
he's got a blaster caught around his leg and he just zaps people with it and stuff like that.
Like the idea is, look, I like the idea.
Yep.
I think it's fun.
Yep.
I'm not going to rewatch those movies to determine whether that has any validity.
No.
Yeah.
Oh, I just dropped the thing.
Yeah, you're right.
Why am I being so curmudgeon-ing about it?
You're such a curmudgeon-ing.
I do like a fan theory.
I apologize.
But I think anything
can be read into anything.
And yes, he is Force sensitive
or he isn't.
Is he?
Who are we talking about?
Han Solo.
No.
Stop it.
He's just...
He is lucky.
Yeah, he's lucky.
That's exactly it.
You need characters that aren't...
Again, I like these fan theories but you need characters who are just...
He's skilled in some ways.
Yep.
Like he's been doing...
The idea that he can dodge Greedo's blaster or whatever.
Yeah.
It's because he's just...
He's been in these situations enough.
Yes.
People have tried to kill him enough that he knows when it's coming and he can dodge out of the way.
It's the similar to...
Like we've talked about, you know, the Batman v Superman theory that the Ben Affleck character we see in the trailer is in fact Deathstroke.
Yes.
And he can run into a collapsing building because he's a metahuman and it won't hurt him.
Yeah.
But the simpler explanation is Ben Affleck is Bruce Wayne Batman.
He doesn't have any superpowers, but he's going to run into that building to save people.
He's done it before.
He's done it before, but he's going to run into that building to save people because that's what he does.
That's right.
Even if it will be dangerous.
We need characters who don't have some sort of mystical energy field.
Yeah, exactly.
That brings me back to what I meant to bring up earlier.
field energy field that yeah exactly that brings me back to his destiny exactly i meant to bring up earlier the reason why jason todd isn't the joker is because jason hood todd might turn up in
the red hood movie that's what that makes more sense yeah yeah which i'd rather see than that
jason todd theory be true me too good good right last really really quick letter um hey lads can
you do something for me my brother's moving to new york with his girlfriend on wednesday he's a
massive fan of the podcast and he wants some sweet New York accent.
I assume so.
And the one who got me listening to this many moths ago,
your own moths.
Sure.
Maybe he's trapped in the dark room.
He's just got a,
like a flickering fluorescent light.
Can you wish Adam and Emma the best of luck in New York and give them your
best?
Forget about it,
please.
No worries.
If you don't take care,
Thomas from Dublin.
Hey, I'm walking here. Forget about it. Forget about it, please. No worries if you don't. Take care. Thomas from Dublin. Hey, I'm walking here.
Forget about it.
Forget about walking.
That's what you're going to encounter in New York.
A hundred times a day.
Anyway, good luck.
Good luck, mate.
All right.
That's the show for this week.
We did it again.
Don't know what we're doing next week.
Not Spectre, apparently.
Yeah.
So maybe we will do 90s action movies or something.
I don't know. Maybe we can do another James action movies or something I don't know
maybe we can do
another James Bond
yeah I guess I could
you have to watch
all the Roger Moore movies
oh god
or whichever
yeah I guess maybe
we can watch Lazenby
don't do that
I guess we'll probably
I think I've said before
we'll compact
Lazenby and Dalton together
alright why don't we do
Sean Connery
or the other one
we'll figure something out
we'll do one of them
yeah yeah yeah
good stuff
or we'll do something else depends if I get one of them. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Good stuff.
Or we'll do something else.
Depends if I get around to watching 15 Bond movies or whatever.
Right, exactly.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Where can people find us?
Oh, they can find us at Weekly Planet Pod on Gmail and Facebook and Twitter and Bandcamp where we've got heaps of commentaries up, movie commentaries.
That's correct.
People enjoy them.
If you are a Patreon though, at patreon.com slash MrSundayMovies, you can get those automatically
there already for free. Nice. Or you can a Patreon though at patreon.com slash MrSundayMovies you can get those automatically there
already for free.
Nice.
Or you can just play them
from Bandcamp.
But also you might get
that sweet Star Wars video
maybe I put up early.
Sure.
Unless you've binned it.
It's called
What If Star Wars
The Force Awakens Is Bad
or something like that.
Oh boy.
And maybe what the fallout
will be from that
or how it could be bad.
I made it but I can't remember
what I've done in it.
Okay, sure.
So if that's not up
The wheels are really falling off.
Boy, have they.
That's if I...
I don't know.
It depends if I end up making this other Batman video.
Who knows, Mason?
You'll find out tomorrow.
Yeah.
We all will.
Oh, yeah.
I'm at Rickopedia Brown on Twitter.
I'm at MrSundayMovies.
Now, I mentioned last week
that we're going to have a sponsor this week.
That's actually going to be next week.
So be ready for that at the start of next year.
We've recorded a very rambling audio copy
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But if they don't
we'll bring it in next week
that's right
yeah man
we're very excited
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I'd imagine so.
They're podcasting, aren't they?
They sure are.
Yeah.
All right.
That'll do it.
Thank you, everybody.
Grab that gem, friends.
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