The Weekly Planet - 123 SUPERHERO SHOWDOWN!
Episode Date: February 22, 2016What a huge bloody week! Star Wars VIII is underway, Blade Runner 2 gets a release date, San Andreas 2 is happening for some reason but it has volcanoes, Deadpool makes box office history and will The... Hulk appear in Civil War?Plus we get back into our much requested episode, Superhero Showdown! Or whatever it was called last time. Pitting hero against hero, enemy against enemy and man versus duck.0:00 The start of the show.2:45 Star Wars VIII Trailer8:00 Blade Runner 2 Release Date11:12 San Andreas Sequel14:40 Ant-man & The Wasp writer on board15:40 The Hulk in Civil War?18:37 Deadpool Box Office & R Rated Comic Book Movies24:47 SUPERHERO SHOWDOWN!28:20 Batman VS Night Owl37:08 Rick VS Doctor Who42:27 Doctor Strange VS Operation43:45 Professor X VS The Purple Man47:40 Leonidas (300) VS Captain America53:23 Pre Syrum Steve Rogers VS Jim From The Office56:30 Kratos VS Alex Mercer59:58 Martian Manhunter VS The Vision1:03:03 Blind Hawkeye VS One Armed Green Arrow1:07:12 Bruce Wayne VS Scrooge McDuch1:09:30 Nightwing VS Winter Soldier1:15:32 Bruce Wayne’s Parents VS Tony Stark’s Parents1:18:05 Mad Max Fatal Four Way1:22:58 Captain Phasma VS Boba Fett1:26:09 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:32:25 Letters It’s Time For LettersAmazon affiliate link: https://amzn.to/2VljkKuPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesMr Sunday Movies YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/lB90W2The Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind our T-Shirts here: https://goo.gl/q6gE9C Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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podcast of comic book movie comic book movie.com where we talk movies comics tv shows my name is
james also known as mr sunday with me as always my coast nick mason internet celebrity nick mason
that's me that's me we're here on the show you know what would be good somebody out there could
build like you know how somebody people make the super cut and they make a super cut of you know
me saying dumb things for like 10 minutes or whatever a super cut it's just a flawless intro that would
be good like like you say it flawlessly and then i say something intelligent or insightful
but it's normally you stumble over and then i'm like i'm here too so i don't think there's enough
audio for that in the 123 episodes or whatever whatever there is well we gave it a world we did
we've had a good run yeah and speaking of giving it a whirl, didn't we? We did. We bloody did. We've had a good run. Yeah. And speaking of giving it a whirl,
did you know they're giving another Star Wars movie a whirl?
Give it a whirl.
Give it a whirl, mate.
They're going to make a good one eventually.
I'm kidding.
For new listeners, I really like the last one.
Yeah, it was pretty great.
It was a pretty good film.
So they released a very short teaser for Episode 8,
which I'm sure you saw.
And the conspiracy theories started already.
I don't know if you know that.
In terms of like, is that the start of the film?
They're like, that's just different angles from episode 7
which is weird that they would get
it suggests that either
they got all the crew together
and then had
Rian Johnson. Were you going to say Danny DeVito?
Yeah, I was going to say Danny DeVito
and I was going to say Danny Boyle. Daddy Glover.
I cannot tell the difference between Rian Johnson and
Danny Boyle looking at them. Really? Yeah.
Okay, fair. It's the glasses, isn't it?
Yeah, it's the glasses.
Okay, anyway, go on.
Sorry, go on.
Classic superhero disguise.
But either they got all the crew of Episode 8 together and went,
just pretend we're filming.
We'll drag you all out here.
Or they just got the crew of Episode 7.
Yeah.
Well, I'd imagine...
Let's pretend this is Episode 8, guys. It must be. I reckon it would be essentially the same crew. Yeah, it's the Episode 7. Yeah. Well, I'd imagine... Let's pretend this is Episode 8, guys.
It must be.
I reckon it would be essentially the same crew.
Yeah, it's the same crew.
But look, it could have easily been filmed.
Like, because it shows...
Oh, you're one of the...
No, I'm just saying, John, I wasn't going to talk about it for this long, but you bloody
brought it up, all right?
Okay.
Like, that could have been behind the scenes from Episode 7, and then they just cut to
Rian Johnson going, good work, everybody.
Make it Star Wars. Like, it doesn't have to be on the same day. He does say that all the time. seven and then they just cut to ryan johnson going good work everybody went to make it star wars like
it doesn't even it doesn't have to be on the same day he does say that all the time after every take
he goes he demands it after every take he's like we did it everybody we're making star wars and he
demands everybody cheers and anybody who doesn't cheer gets fired yeah he's a hard task so by the
last shot he'd be like well done everybody we episode eight. And there's just one camera guy going, yeah.
Look, I'm excited.
Me too.
I mean, it's starting.
It didn't really show us anything new.
People are saying, what does that mean that episode eight picks up exactly where seven
left off?
Or would they start there and then would they time jump forward six months?
Because none of the Star Wars movies follow exactly on. There's normally like a gap in between but i feel like for all the comics and
books that will go in between they will leave a gap because how much law can you squeeze in there
you can't squeeze in any any side calls that's right any captain phasma escapes the trash
compactor that's right graphic novelsic novels. So, yeah.
Boy, I'd say that.
Me too.
I'd read that.
Yeah.
Just her picking away at the... She like takes off her helmet,
it's just filled with toilet water,
just emptying it out.
Yeah.
There's just like a,
like, you know,
fish skeleton in there.
Yeah, like a whole fish in a boot.
She shakes out of it.
Anyway, Carrie Fisher also confirmed
that this movie will be filming under the title Space Bear.
No, she didn't.
Yeah, that's true.
You know how like...
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Yeah, it's not the actual title.
The fake title.
It's the fake title.
Like, you know, Return of the Jedi was Blue Harvest and whatever.
But the idea of that is so people don't show up to the set of like,
Oh, I love Star Wars.
I don't want to see Star...
Like, if you tell people...
Yeah, you're right.
But the jig is up at this point, isn't it? Yeah, I yeah that's you're right but I mean the jig is up at
this point yeah I guess
it's I mean you know
what they've just
implemented as well
yeah drones to attack
drones that that aerial
film that's amazing
that's amazing wow
so yeah but then you
know what you mean
because like the I
guess the media outlets
would have a drone to
fly around and like
take shots of the
filming yeah so then
you have you have the the Lucasfilmfilm drones that shoot down those drones.
They look like mini Star Destroyers.
A little typhoid.
But that's the thing, because it'll be a Star Wars branded anti-drone drone.
So that's now a collectible.
So somebody's going to build another drone that's got a big net on somebody's gonna build a like another drone that's got like a big net on
it and then capture those drones oh man this is gonna be aerial warfare above the set of star
wars this is the real star wars in a way yeah that's very that's very exciting the possibilities
there i want to see that movie yeah there will be the drone pilots yeah oh so good yeah drone
it's like the people who you know know, who steal the Death Star plans.
They're like, you just kind of like hear about them, but what did they really get up to?
And now they're getting their own movie.
Because wasn't there, remember there was that, there was that film, remember Fanboys?
I never saw it, yeah.
Yeah, well, it was that film about they wanted to get their friend to see Star Wars episodes.
Now there's going to be a film about people who just collect Star Wars drones.
You bloody heard it here first. Yeah, that's right. Someone's going to make that. I people who just collect star wars drones you bloody heard it here first yeah that's right someone's going to make that i hope so it won't
be us no and the version that does come out won't be good that involves controlling a drone and i
feel weird i did that actually the other week yeah they're awesome yeah all right but we've
got stuff going on i don't want one i'll just crash it immediately all right so you know blade
runner 2 is happening now now i don't sure i mean i always just crash it immediately. All right. So you know Blade Runner 2 is happening?
Now.
Now I do.
I'm sure I've done it. I mean, I always did.
You always did.
It's got a release date.
In my heart of hearts, I always knew it was.
Yeah.
It's got a release date of January 12th, 2018.
Do you reckon that's enough buffer from Star Wars?
Yeah, then that's plenty of time to change directors like eight times.
Yeah, that's right.
Do a whole bunch of scripts and have a whole bunch of people go,
I like the previous script a bit better, and then fill our hearts with despair and then produce a movie that's right do a whole bunch of scripts and have a whole bunch of people go I like the previous script a bit better
and then fill our hearts
with despair
and then produce a movie
that's fine
have Harrison Ford
break his leg again
he's suing right
isn't he suing somebody
yeah I don't know
if he's suing
but yeah there is
legal
his leg is suing
his leg is suing
his new bionic leg
is suing
I don't think he cares
like I'm sure
he's people are like
can we sue
and he's like
I don't know
whatever
sure
I mean it did hurt
so probably
yeah sue but you know what's interesting I don't know, whatever. Sure. I mean, it did hurt, so probably, yeah, sue.
But you know what's interesting?
I'll just be over here struggling through my life
with this medical marijuana that's helping me through.
What's interesting about this is, though...
God, life's tough, isn't it?
Being rich and stoned all the time, allegedly.
Allegedly.
Not really.
So that's January 12th.
January is like the toilet of cinema for now though because now
but now because star wars took all that january money as well so now blade runner is january 12th
like blade runner 2 i don't think it means it's garbage right i think it just means that people
see oh shit there's like a there's a market there market. There's a huge empty gap where you can put a film.
Yeah, a Blade Runner sequel.
Harrison Ford actually is excited about this because I saw an interview with him during the Star Wars press conference.
And they're like, how do you feel about sequels?
Do you want another sequel for anything?
He's like, no, fuck off, no.
And then he's like, oh no, yeah, Blade Runner.
That'll be all right.
I don't know whether he was like, shit, I should say Blade Runner.
There's a flashback to him in his agent's office
and he signed the Blade Runner contract
and there's like a proviso.
There's like a million dollar bonus
if he acts enthusiastic during interviews and stuff.
And he flashes back to that and he's like,
oh no, but I love Blade Runner though.
I love it.
I bet he doesn't always get that million dollars.
I bet he didn't get it for Firewall. I bet he didn't get it for Firewall.
I bet he didn't get it for Hollywood Homicide.
I bet he didn't get it for Age of Adaline.
Speaking of garbage sequels.
Oh, yes.
No, I think, you know, I'm excited for Blade Runner 2.
Yeah, me too.
Just to see what it's like.
Are you one of those people that loves the original Blade Runner?
I think...
Tears in the Rain, some monologue.
See, for me, it was one of the films
I had to do in like
English class
I didn't know this
so that kind of
takes some of the fun
out of it
it takes literally
all the fun out of it
but it is a very good movie
I never got to study
a film in school
so now I don't know
anything about film
yeah
I always wanted to though
yeah
I feel like it'd break me
I'm just gonna look up
Vangelis
Vangelis was What's that?
Vangelis was the guy who did the music.
Oh, okay.
To see if he's alive.
Yeah, that's what I'm doing.
Okay, here we go.
Composer.
He's still alive.
How old?
He's 72.
He could do that.
So he's younger than Harrison Ford, right?
Yes, I guess.
Yeah, I think he would be.
Around the same age.
He's the bloody young duck on this film.
All right, fingers crossed he's going to do the music.
Blade Runner 2.
Yeah.
There you go.
Running through the streets.
It's pretty good.
Yeah.
It's a pretty good movie.
San Andreas 2 has been greenlit.
Oh, that's right.
People tweeted this at us. Yeah.
So I hope it's just a trial for The Rock being like,
you stole a helicopter and thousands of people died.
This is your job and you left.
You took a really important piece of equipment
that we used to save people.
Did he crash it in the end?
What happened?
I think he did crash it.
Yeah.
California dreaming, mate.
Yeah.
I don't know.
But anyway, this one's going to-
What were you thinking?
But I mean, what was he going to do with it anyway?
There's room for like three people on board.
He could have done a few trips back and forth.
That's true.
He could have done a few trips back and forth.
He could have saved Kylie Minogue.
He could have saved...
He could have saved Yohan Griffith.
Yep.
Yeah.
But he got his comeuppance, didn't he?
That's true, he did.
Yeah.
So apparently he's going to encompass the Ring of Fire in the Pacific Ocean, which is
apparently this place got its name because there's 450 volcanoes that surround it.
So it's going to be all volcanoes.
Didn't he do Journey to the Center of the Earth 2?
There's probably a bunch of volcanoes in that.
Journey 2.
Journey 2.
Number 2.
Now I get it.
I bet it wasn't number 2.
Yeah.
So are they going to call it San Andreas 2?
I hope so.
Yeah, me too.
San Andreas 2, colon, it's not in San Andreas.
Because that place is literally destroyed.
See, because people tweeted at us about this sequel,
which you hated and I was ambivalent towards.
Yeah.
I thought it was kind of fun.
I hated it.
Because there wasn't a villain to smash, basically.
Yeah, they tried.
That's not why I hated it.
I hated it because it was a bad and boring film
that made no sense. And the CGI was spotty and all over the place and i don't know the rock was like completely
unlikable what do you tell us how you really feel mate and also at this point watching a city fall
down i don't feel any emotions well exactly it's just uh it's just somebody's special effects real
yeah exactly i didn't mind it i feel like if I really saw a city fall down,
I'd feel something.
But then maybe not,
because I'm so desensitized.
You know, there's that conspiracy theory
about all these natural disasters and alien attacks.
The only reason they make these movies
in case something like that happens,
and then people go,
oh yeah.
Is that a conspiracy theory?
That's a conspiracy theory, yeah.
We're all about the
conspiracy theories this week
you know it
anyway
I would
I thought
because people tweeted
there's going to be this sequel
I'm like
where are they going to go
if they still call it San Andreas
is it just going to be another
what if it was
would you watch if it was another
earthquake in San Andreas
just the wreckage of San Andreas
it was just another one
and they're like
we're falling even further
this is real bad.
We thought it was bad before,
but it's real bad now.
What do you knock down?
Like a pile of rubble.
Like, you know what I mean?
It has to move locations.
I guess.
So what's he going to be doing?
Do you reckon his family's going to be in there,
in the volcano?
They'll be like,
we're just on this Pacific Island holiday.
We just got to get away
from the destruction of San Andreas.
Let's not research dangerous areas.
Do you reckon they'll work in global warming and things like that?
No.
Was it?
No.
There wasn't a reason behind the earthquake, was there?
Paul Giamatti's just like, oh, shit, there's going to be a pretty big earthquake.
So do you reckon they'll just do that again?
I think they will.
It's going to be an even bigger earthquake but with volcanoes.
Yeah.
Great.
Unless they're like,
no, because maybe
they'll be like,
oh, we've got a,
the last one was just
things falling apart.
This one's got a social
message about it.
Oh.
That's the way.
The social message
should be don't steal
a helicopter that's
used to rescue people.
Exactly.
Anyway,
Adam McKay,
director,
he'll be back to write for a bit on Ant-Man and the Wasp, the sequel,
because he had his hand in writing the first one.
They wanted him to direct it, but he was like,
this is very late in the game.
I'm happy to pitch in,
but maybe he was friends with Edgar Wright as well.
And so he's like, I don't know about this.
So yeah, that's cool.
He's a pretty good dude. Are you excited for Ant-Man and the Wasp? Yes, I am. Me too this. So, yeah, that's cool. That's pretty good. He's a pretty good dude.
Are you excited for Ant-Man and the Wasp?
Yes, I am.
Me too.
Now we've established the origin.
Yep.
And that's out of the way.
Yep.
Just fun film.
Fun film.
Just making a fun action film.
Yep.
Do you want 60s flashbacks?
Yes.
Me too.
Yeah.
And 80s flashbacks.
Yes.
Me too.
Flashbacks.
Flashbacks.
Flashbacks.
I thought we were going to go into a flashback
But then we didn't
Oh
I could probably
Could you flashback to like a really old episode
Where I'm talking about how excited I am
For the Edgar Wright Ant-Man movie
And then to another flashback
Where I'm really sad that he's not on it
I'd have to go through so much stuff
No don't do it
Don't worry about it
Just pretend we did that
And it'll be a real fun bit
It'll be a good joke yeah
Also Anthony Mackie mentioned
That he loved Civil War,
I think he said it was the best Marvel movie that he's seen.
And he also mentioned the cast.
He's seen the movies he's in.
He's seen the movies he's in.
And he mentioned the cast,
and apparently he mentioned Mark Ruffalo is in it,
who was thought not to be in it.
Well, well.
But I hope...
Maybe it's a flashback.
Then you flash back to Avengers and he's in Avengers.
And then you flash back to that weird Coca-Cola commercial
that he's in that.
Is that a flash forward though?
Yeah.
It's interesting, isn't it?
Yeah.
So Mackie Facty, Mackie's given the game away here.
He's revealed the secret.
He has.
Okay.
I hope, and I didn't think he was in it
because they mentioned that they'd cut him.
But I'd kind of imagine he would have brought it up
if he's not in it, you'd think.
Yeah, that'd be a weird...
Mackie gets very excited, though.
He's always like, this is Avengers 2.7.
This is Avengers 3.9.
This is Civil War.7.
Like, he's just throwing out all these decimal points.
I never know what he means.
But this is pretty clear cut.
How about it's the end.
It's the end of Civil War.
They're all tucking out.
They're all still fighting.
Oh, Nick Fury's tucking them into bed.
That's right, yeah.
They're all fighting.
Spider-Man is there, and he's like, I'm here, I'm Spider-Man, right?
And people are like, Spider-Man, finally, right?
And he's on screen for like two seconds, and then you hear this thunderclap,
and like Hulk, you see Hulk fall out of the air,
and he's wearing like a real big like old-timey
space suit and he's like I'm back from space and then he just hits the ground and there's a big
explosion and then it just says to be continued that would be incredible right I was hoping
Spider-Man gets one second of screen time and then flattened or it just cuts to the whole just
cuts to the whole he's, I'm back from space.
Stuff happened in space.
I can talk now.
And then he... But remember,
he has to go to Thor Ragnarok.
I was in Ragnarok.
The next movie
will have to be a flashback.
But I hope that it's Tony Stark
packing the Hulk into a crate
and throwing him into space
for Thor Ragnarok.
Even though he was sort of already going to space
or whatever happened at the end of Age of Ultron.
It was unclear.
Because then you could do what?
That jet doesn't have the power to go into space.
We've discussed this.
I think it has.
Wormholes.
Yeah, right.
Look, I'm willing to believe that it could get into orbit
and then something else happened.
What happened to Peter Quill?
Like, he got picked up by the Ravan Ravagers.
Yeah, but that's not going to happen every week, is it?
Yeah, but if they're like, shit, this guy would be good for our gladiator battles, for
our international TV series gladiator, sorry, interdimensional, interspatial, whatever the
word is.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Intercontinental.
Thank you.
Mm.
So, no, because then that would lead into World War Hulk.
Okay.
So, if he comes back and he's like, you shot me into space, you son of a bitch. Like, they must be doing World War Hulk, right? Yes comes back and he's like you shot me into space you son of a bitch
like they must be doing
World War Hulk right
yes
at some point
just make
make the good things
that's what I say
yeah exactly
make the good things
we've heard about before
don't make new things
we're putting our foot down
don't make new things
don't even think about it
for a second
speaking of new things though
oh good link
I always
I don't know if it's an actual good link
but go ahead
smooth transition yeah but I appreciate it thank you but it was yep Speaking of new things, though. Oh, good link. I don't know if it's an actual good link, but go ahead.
Smooth transition.
Thank you.
But it was.
Deadpool is shattering box office records all over the box office.
They reckon it's going to take another $50 million in the US this weekend alone.
That's a great follow-up to the $130 odd it made last week. But, of course, on the back of this, a lot of studios and that are thinking, oh, the R rating. That's what we talked about this last week. But of course, on the back of this, a lot of studios and that are thinking,
well,
the R rating.
That's what we,
we talked about this last week.
Yeah, we did talk about it last week.
The,
they all,
they never get it right.
I don't understand.
Again,
last week we talked about,
it was last week,
doesn't matter.
We talked about like Avatar.
Yeah.
It made huge amounts of money
and people were like,
because that's the,
the movie,
Bloody Houses of Orlando.
It's because of the 3D
people love 3D
nobody loves 3D
and then we were just hit
with a bloody stream
of 3D movies
we're still feeling it
we're still feeling
the after effects
the San Andreas
aftershocks
of Avatar
people were like
we didn't like it
because it had 3D
we tolerated the 3D
I didn't like it
period
that's right
I said it
putting your foot down
everybody's
turned on that movie anyway yeah so what they've taken away from deadpool is just making an r-rated
film and it will be successful never never mind that like pretty much every other r-rated comic
book movie that's ever come out has tanked yep not every one of them like kingsman did well but
then you look at dread tanked probably some of the Blade movies sure
maybe Constantine
if that was irate
and it probably wasn't
yeah
I'm trying to think
his mother
Spawn
that didn't do well
presumably
but Seth McFarlane
is he the one
who does Spawn
no
Todd McFarlane
Todd McFarlane
Seth McFarlane's family guy
he's come out and gone
oh no I have a Spawn movie
ready to go
and so like
apparently that's like
the wheels are spinning on that
cannot wait
but Spawn is like
he's very unlikable
like I don't feel
as a character
or just the idea of him
everything
like the look
like design wise
incredible
like he sells a lot of toys
he pushes a lot of merch
yeah
a lot of those little
those little busts
where he's got all the chains
swirling around
yeah exactly
yeah
but I don't feel he's got do you think he could be marketed he's not a franchise no he's not a franchise guy and
done yeah i'm not so i don't mean that he's unlikable like you know he's a lot of people's
favorite character but i don't i can't imagine that they'd pull out this amazing spawn campaign
marketing campaign and then everyone will rush out to see spawn then again i said that about
deadpool and it you, and it happens.
I've got a bloody egg on my face, mate.
So yeah, there's also talk that the Wolverine 3 will get an R rating.
But the thing is,
if you're going to give something an R rating,
you've got to give it an R rating for the right reasons.
So you don't make Wolverine an R rating
because he's quippy and he's sweary.
You give him an R rating because he's taken heads off.
Right, exactly.
It also seems odd to me that you would build a movie you'd say first of all it's going to
be an r rating like the the whiteboard in the in the production that's your that's your go-to yeah
the whiteboard they've just written r rating in the middle and they've just drawn lines off and
gone okay what can we do to make it an r rated yeah it seems like a terrible way to build a film
yes yes maybe you could cut a guy's head off maybe you could tell you some f-bombs maybe you could on lines off and gone, okay, what can we do to make it an R-rated film? It seems like a terrible way to build a film. Yes,
yes.
Maybe you could cut a guy's head off.
Maybe you could show some F-bombs.
Maybe you could,
whatever.
Yeah,
well,
that's it.
Well,
James Gunn actually.
Write the film first.
Write the film.
And if it turns out to be an R-rated film,
you keep it as an R-rated film.
That's right.
And if it's not,
then it's not.
Then shut up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What has James Gunn said?
Well,
James Gunn.
We'll get him.
We'll get him on Twitter.
No,
we won't.
No,
no,
he's,
James Gunn said that.
Our mate,
James Gunn. Our mate, yes. I don't know why he hasn't blocked us yet, but he'll get him. We'll get him on Twitter. No, we won't. No, no. James Gunn said that... Our mate, James Gunn.
Our mate, yes.
I don't know why he hasn't blocked us yet,
but he'll get there.
He's posted a piece saying
what people shouldn't take away from Deadpool
is that it's R-rated.
They should take away that it's something original
and that's what people like to see.
The same way he said that when Guardians came out,
people were like...
Everything became like Guardians of the Galaxy.
Yeah, it's like the trailer.
We should put in a pop song from the 80s. Like Suicide Squad. out people like everything became like guardians of the galaxy yeah it's like the trailer we should
put in a pop song like suicide squad and then the new bloody star trek trailer looks like
a guardians movie yes it does i mean like so what you should take from it is let's not let's mimic
this exactly it should be oh maybe we should try something original and people will maybe go for
that maybe because often also people don't go for
original things.
It's a bloody
crap shit, isn't it?
I'd say 3D.
Yeah.
R-rated and 3D.
Was Deadpool 3D?
It wasn't, was it?
No.
Not when I saw it.
Anyway.
So look, yeah,
I don't know.
There's a lesson in this.
I don't know what it is.
But just...
Do you want to see
an R-rated Wolverine movie?
Yes.
It fits. Yeah, absolutely. But then again, this Hughated wolverine movie yes it fits yeah absolutely but then again
this hugh jackman wolverine isn't like the comic book wolverine in that way like he's not there's
a moment in x-men 2 where he kills a kills a SWAT team in the x-mansion yeah and that's that's
pushing the envelope it's not quite irated yeah i would like to see more of that with you know
the old man lo Logan kind of story,
which is apparently what they're making.
Someone tweeted or emailed me, and I can't remember who,
what would you think if they did old man Logan,
but they replaced Hawkeye, which they have to do anyway,
because he's owned by Marvel, with Deadpool?
And it was like a buddy.
That would definitely work, yeah.
Do you reckon they'd do it though?
Maybe.
And it could be Deadpool.
Because in Old Man Logan, Hawkeye's blind.
So Deadpool could be... Blind also.
Also blind.
Very easy fix.
We've cracked the code.
Put it on the whiteboard.
I rated blind?
Yeah.
Does that tip us over the edge?
Depends how they're blind.
We'll get the coveted blind audience.
That'll be great.
That's right, yeah.
So, yeah, whatever.
Great.
I'm all for it.
Me too.
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you know what we love?
What do we love?
Versus episodes.
Our listeners.
Oh, yeah.
That's priority number one.
Our sponsors.
Our sponsors.
That's probably priority number one.
Let's rank the things that we love.
Okay, great.
Sleeping.
Our friends and loved ones.
Okay, sleeping number one.
What was I thinking?
Sleeping number one.
Number two.
Not going to work.
A good breakfast.
Yeah.
Not going to work is probably number two.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'd probably put work above not going to work above sleeping.
Yeah, me too, actually. Yeah. Not going to work going to work great anyway maybe we'll come back to that we'll do an episode we rank the things we just rank the things we like no uh so we do these superhero
showdown episodes and then i think we've this might be the third or fourth that we've done
where basically we say to people tweet us in in, put it on the Reddit, email,
two superheroes or supervillains or any fictional or non-fictional character.
Anything in the world.
Anyone, any concept.
It can be a piece of sadness versus sleeping in.
It can be a toaster versus a dragon.
A toaster versus a more expensive toaster.
That's right.
Maybe it's got four slots.
Oh, yes.
Can you imagine? Yeah. How many slots has your toaster got? Mine's just got the four slots oh yes can you imagine yeah how many slots
has your toaster got mine's just got the two yeah mine's just got two as well did you ever need more
than that there's not enough people living here that i would need more than that i'd be like if
i had eight kids i need one of those long toasters do you know yeah just put a whole loaf of bread in
they're called the brady bunch toaster that's right what are we doing what are we doing here
anyway you send in our listeners the weekly whacker we doing here? Anyway, you send in
our listeners, the weekly whacker to do's,
our loyal listeners, they send in
some people they would like us to
fight to get, and we determine
who is the winner. Here am the
rules. Yes.
Wait, what are the rules?
Okay, here we go. Open football field.
The rule is the setting.
Both the two opponents, they just appear at opposite ends
of a standard size American football field,
which we have determined is the optimum size and shape
for a superhero, supervillain concept item showdown.
Now bearing in mind, neither you nor I have ever set foot
on an American football field.
And we never will.
We figure close enough.
However, if both characters are Canadian, I'm willing to say it could be an ice hockey rink.
Oh, okay.
But they have to be on skates.
So if it's like Wolverine versus bloody Guardian or whatever, they have to ice skate on a hockey rink.
That's fair enough.
Yeah, okay.
I'm okay with that.
Rule number two, they appear, the opposite ends.
Yep.
They see the other one.
They immediately perceive the other one as a threat.
Yes.
So it can't be like, hey, maybe they just have a nice little chat.
No.
No, the other ones are threats.
Enemies.
They are enemies.
Then they proceed to neutralize the opponent in the way that they normally would.
That's right.
So Batman's not going to kill you yep i'll fire a gun wolverine might start out non-lethal yep and then escalate
yep that's deadpool will just kill you straight try to kill you straight away correct okay the
opponents have whatever equipment they would normally have yes or whatever we deem yeah if
somebody's like if somebody has a good suggestion we'll just probably just roll with that. That's fine. I'm going to say no vehicles, no backup,
unless it's part of the character.
So like Batman doesn't have the Batmobile,
but Ghost Rider can probably summon his motorcycle.
Sure, I guess so, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Can that summon out of thin air, that motorcycle?
Sometimes it can, sometimes it can't.
Because the Batmobile can't summon out of it.
I guess he could summon the Batwing.
We'll get to that, I'm sure.
Let's just say no vehicles.
Let's say no vehicles.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, and obviously Batman can't call Alfred and be like,
Alfred, get down here.
I'm in trouble.
Please help Alfred.
Spawn's using all these chains.
Do you have something to help me with that?
Spawn's got so many chains.
I did not see this coming. I think that's the rules though. That's pretty much many chains. I don't see this coming.
I think that's the rules though.
That's pretty much the rules.
It's established.
Yeah.
Okay.
And in our decision,
final rule,
our decision is final
unless you have any inkling
that there might be a better result
in which case that's fine.
Also-
We're not super invested in this.
No.
And we're not going to fight you
on Twitter about it.
Whatever you think is correct.
Correct.
We don't care.
All right. All right.
All right.
First one.
Batman.
I thought we'd go with the crowd favorite.
We're going to start with a classic.
We're going to start with a weird one.
That's right.
Batman versus Night Owl.
Okay.
This is from Spellman.
Also, here's another rule I forgot.
It's the character in the prime of their...
Yes.
Their prime of their fighting fit.
Unless it's stipulated.
Unless it's like, this is Dark Knight, Batman. Yeah. Unless it's like, this is Dark Knight, Batman.
Yeah, unless it's like, yeah,
Dark Knight Returns, Batman versus Old Man Logan.
Yeah, exactly.
That's actually a good one.
It's a pretty good one, right?
Now that I think about it,
I was going to say another intrinsic part,
like if a character has a vehicle,
like as an intrinsic part of their character,
I was going to say Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino.
He's just got racism in the car.
He's allowed to bring the car.
Okay.
Fair enough.
This is from Last Name Spellman on the email.
I'm sorry, I can't pronounce the first name.
He factored that in.
He said, or just Spellman.
Yes, he did.
I think his first name's maybe Hawaiian.
Yeah, okay.
But I'm not going to say it in case it's not.
Also, you can't remember it.
I cannot.
Okay.
So Batman versus Night Owl.
Now, off the bat, I would say regular comic book batman
is leaps and bounds ahead of night owl yes right but to for the in the interest of fairness yes
making this longer than a two second conversation say we chuck in either the nolan batman or the
burton batman what do you think okay look i think we're gonna i think we should go with nolan batman
right because night owl exists in a universe like we, we do have Dr. Manhattan in that universe.
Yes.
But the Watchmen universe is a universe where regular people put on costumes and decide to become superheroes.
Yes.
And in the movie, it's kind of this hyper-real universe.
Sure, yeah.
And I feel in the Watchmen movie, they're kind of superhuman
because they've just been punching people so often.
Yes.
They've got like artificial knuckles and dead nerves
and they can't feel pain anymore or whatever.
That's it, exactly.
So let's say Nolan Batman versus comic book-y Watchmen movie night out.
Done.
Done.
Any particular era of Nolan Batman?
Just whatever.
Just it's all.
Mid-period.
Dark Knight.
Dark Knight.
Okay, great.
I would say they have roughly the same amount of like tech, I would say.
Like they've both got grapple guns and whatnot.
Batman doesn't have the Batwing at this point though.
No, he doesn't.
Let me think about this.
I can't have Archie.
It's the name of his ship.
Oh, is that his little...
Oh, it's a ship.
I thought you meant he's the artificial owl.
Either of them.
Okay, good.
Does he have an artificial owl?
It's a real owl.
Okay, good.
Okay, good.
Right, so in terms of fighting ability,
I would say they're roughly on par,
but maybe even Night Owl's quicker,
because Nolan Batman's doing a lot of...
That's true yeah
elbows it's all elbows and knees but like night out there's like snapping arms and bones are
coming out and like i think he hits this has turned very quickly but you know what i mean
like i think he hits harder oh no what do you think yes he does hit harder and he doesn't hold
back that's actually a really good point.
Yeah, yeah.
We shouldn't have started on this one.
No, we should definitely have started on this one.
We should definitely start on this one to set the precedent
that there's a lot of thinking time
and we don't really know what we're talking about.
Nolan Batman could barely handle the Joker and some dogs, right?
That's true.
It didn't go well.
In a corridor or even in a street alley fight night owl with the help of silk specter yeah kill like
hardened criminals that's true like just brutalize them and i feel like that in itself gives him
that would give him the edge over the nolan batman the nolan batman's always like tripping over
and like getting stabbed by accident.
That's true.
And like he's on fire and he falls into a dubster or whatever.
Do you know what I mean?
Like there's a lot of that.
Yeah, that's true.
But what's he got?
Let's get some points in favor of Nolan Batman.
He's got chocky gloves so he can glide.
Yes.
He's got an explosive gun.
He's got that bloody-
He's got that gun that shoots-
Sticky explosives. Just wet bombs. Yeah, that's right. He's got like just gun. He's got that bloody... He's got that gun that shoots... Sticky explosives.
Just wet bombs.
Yeah, that's right.
He's got just moist grenades.
Yeah.
But I don't think he's got that on him, standard.
Okay, fair enough.
That's true.
That was for a very specific mission.
Once he got on him, he's got batarangs.
He's got a lot of batarangs.
What about that thing that can grip and tear the hole in the side of a...
On the side of a truck, he's got that.
Which he uses briefly.
That would work on Night Owl's face. Definitely. Definitely he uses briefly. That would work on Night Owl's face.
Definitely.
Definitely, but he wouldn't use that on Night Owl's face.
Yeah, yeah.
And who's more heavily armoured, would you say?
Batman.
Nolan Batman.
But Nolan Batman's got the gaps in his armour.
Yeah, but Night Owl's not going to...
You can't get a fist in the bloody armour gap.
Yeah, that's true.
You know what I mean?
You could get a...
Has he got, like, ailerons?
Has he got bowlers?
He's got a laser.
Has he?
Yeah, he's got a laser.
I remember that.
He's got a laser gun.
That's probably going to come in handy, isn't it?
Yeah, I think so, yeah.
Well, Nolan Batman's got that machine that gets into your phone so you can see through
walls until you get hit in the head or whatever
and you can't see anything
that's true
he does have that machine
yeah
I don't know
that doesn't help you
in a football field
not gonna help
yeah
he's also got that
machine that can take
a fingerprint off a bullet
not on him
not on him
and also not useful
yeah
I don't know
it's Night Owl
he's older
but I reckon he's stronger
and he's faster
look at that corridor fight.
He just tore through those guys.
Yeah.
Who's Nolan Batman tearing through?
Bloody nobody, mate.
That's true.
He's not tearing through anybody unless they're terrified of him.
That's right, exactly.
And Night Owl's real enemy is his impotency.
That's very true.
He'll fight a man in a bat costume, no problem.
That gives him energy and strength.
If anything, he's overcompensating for being impotent.
That's right, exactly.
That makes him very dangerous.
Batman, as far as we know, fully functional junk.
Fully junctional, as I say.
Yeah, I don't know.
Batman's always like, I guess I should retire.
Yeah.
Oh no, I guess Night Owl's in retirement.
But he was forced into
retirement as well wasn't he because of the superhero registration act but then again batman
was also forced into retirement it's like retirement going on in superhero movies i feel
like in a retirement off who wins in this definitely nolan's batman yeah because he went
away for years yeah he did yeah well so did night out but i think night out was kind of he didn't
want to like he always kind of wanted to come back.
Exactly, but Nolan Batman just growing a little goatee and having a hurt leg and just sitting
in his mansion.
That's right.
Receiving his Levenses on a little serving tray.
But what about when Ozymandias fights Nite Owl?
Yes.
He, like, paces him.
Yeah.
But do you think...
He even bloody avoids the laser.
He does avoid the laser.
Now you remember the laser.
That's right.
I do remember now.
But Batman isn't on...
Nolan Batman isn't on that level of Ozymandias.
No.
No, because Ozymandias is...
Ozymandias, sorry, thank you.
He's...
He gives me the look.
Ozymandias is just like he's the
the epitome of
yes
every
like he's the
he's trained himself to
yeah
yeah he can catch a bullet
yeah
that's right
yeah
still don't quite understand that
no
I guess I don't need to
look I think
I think it's gonna go
they see each other
opposites of the football field
yep
Batman flings a batarang
mm-hmm
9-0 hits it with the laser.
Yep.
We're going to say ranged weapons are now out.
Right.
What other, do they have any ranged, anything else?
Rattling hooks, who knows?
Yeah, grappling hooks, yeah.
Yeah, but look, and it's going to come into a...
They just get tangled in the middle and they'll be like,
and they'll be trying to un-nod it.
Yeah.
It takes forever.
It's like untangling your bloody headphones,
your bloody iPod headphones.
It's going to come to a close action fight.
I think you're right.
It's going to go to night owl.
Yeah.
I think he'd just take hold of Bruce Wayne's forearm
and then just like snap his elbow backwards
and then it would be over.
Remember when Bruce Wayne hurt his knee
and then he was like,
I can't do anything.
I can't even go down the shops.
Alfred, bring my elevenses.
Look, that being said, any other kind of Batman version,
except maybe the one from Burton, would kill Night Owl,
like the comic book version.
He wouldn't kill him.
No, not kill him, but he would like, it would eviscerate him.
Like he'd have, is that also killing someone?
Yeah, pull his bloody guts out.
You don't want to do that.
Okay, fine.
He'd punch him real hard.
Metaphorically, yeah.
Yes.
So, yeah.
In the interest of fairness.
Yeah.
I mean, in the interest of fairness,
Night Owl is just a slightly more dangerous version of Blue Beetle.
Okay, sure, yeah.
Because he's like that's the...
Okay, yeah.
That's a good point.
He's like a deliberate variation of that character.
So, comic book Batman would definitely beat this.
Yes.
Yeah, but I think if we're talking Nolan versus movie watchman.
Yep.
That's how that goes.
That's a short fight, yeah.
What about this one?
This is from Fake Zach.
Okay.
Rick versus the Doctor.
Oh, that's right.
Now we need to establish, is it Rick from The Walking Dead?
No, it's Rick the crazy scientist from Rick and dead no it's rick it's it's rick the crazy scientist from rick and morty yes versus doctor who yep whichever one
let's say current maybe or do you want to go like tenant because i feel like tenants okay well i
think we have to determine who is the doctor in his prime which will upset a lot of people i'd say
it's probably tenant i would say it's also popularity wise at least yeah look i haven't
seen a lot of this new season so so I can't speak for it either.
So do you want to go Tenant?
Tenant and Matt Smith are pretty much the same.
They've just got slightly different hair.
That's true.
It's the same version.
What about Eccleston?
He seems more dangerous.
Yeah.
Capaldi could have some sort of...
Guitar?
I was going to say guitar versus like weird dance off yeah sure
that could totally work so it's rick from rick and morty yep look a tardis or no tardis for the
doctor i think you'd probably arrive in the tardis and you know you reckon they just arrive you
pulled you pulled from you pulled from your time stream does that mean rick does that mean rick has
his buddy yes he does because he's it's in his coat. Well, then the Doctor has his sonic screwdriver.
And a lot of time, the Doctor has a portable teleporting thing on his wrist.
A lot of the time or all the time?
Standard issue or no?
I just feel like if you give him the teleporter,
Doctor Who's standard issue is the TARDIS.
Like if you buy a Doctor Who action figure,
he's with the TARDIS generally,
or it's boxed in the TARDIS or something.
I know we said no vehicles yeah so you reckon doctor who would not have the tardis
i reckon doctor would not have the tardis he just closed it because he just get in and close the
door and be like oh yeah exactly oh yeah yeah well you gotta okay you gotta remember as well
the doctor doctor can pull out some 11th hour bullshit and always win.
Yes.
See, that's what I'm saying.
This is a scenario in which he can't do that.
Okay, right.
There's no writing tricks.
There's no bloody painting yourself out of a corner.
Right.
Doesn't work.
Okay.
Then it's Rick.
It's Rick.
Yes, it is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, the Doctor is very reluctant to kill.
Yeah.
He will if you make him. But Rick would kill anybody. For any reason. For any reason. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the Doctor is very reluctant to kill. He will if you make him, but Rick would kill anybody.
For any reason.
For any reason at any point in time.
Remember he killed Rick's, Morty's school bully, like by accident?
Yeah.
He shot him with a freeze gun and then left and then it just fell over.
Remember when he horribly mutated everyone in the world?
That's right, exactly.
And they just left that reality.
He doesn't give a shit.
So, and I feel like he'd also,
Rick would also know who he is.
Oh, good.
But I think the Doctor
would know who he is.
I think if we're building that,
if we're building that scenario,
I would say they each know
who the other one is.
But, okay, I guess so,
because there's a lot of like...
Because, look,
I'm willing to say that the Doctor,
if he can't...
I'm going to say he hasn't built built we can't build a scenario in which
he's had all the people in the world yeah love him and so he defeats rick because they all scream
the doctor beats rick or whatever and he's built this series of magical satellites he doesn't know
he's gonna be there yeah he's just pulled but i'm gonna say he is aware they are both aware of who
the other one is okay i'm gonna give them both the level of knowledge that they would have, I think.
In that case, then, the Doctor would run immediately
if he knew who he was.
Okay.
Do you think he'd be able to take out his portal gun
with his sonic scooter?
I think so, yes.
I think also hand-to-hand, Rick has that.
Yes, he does.
He loves a bloody knock-down, drag-out brawl.
You know what I mean?
He's not above that.
He'll punch another scientist or like, you know, tear an alien's head off or whatever.
Okay, I'm willing to give you this.
The Doctor does not arrive with the TARDIS, but it's on the way.
Okay, sure.
And just every now and then it cuts to it.
It's like... Exactly.
Because the TARDIS is intelligent.
Yeah, it's like Thor's Haber.
It's got a link to it.
Yeah, he's done that where he's lost in our deep space or whatever
and the TARDIS is on the way to find him.
Yes, okay.
So if he lives long enough, it's going to get there.
Right, okay.
Will he live long enough though?
Yes.
Then what does he do
does he get in the TARDIS
maybe
would you like to see a fight
inside the TARDIS
yes
me too
yeah
man that'd be incredible
okay so
again they immediately
perceive the other one
as a threat
yes
I'm
willing to believe
that the doctor
could negotiate
long enough
that he isn't
immediately killed
do you reckon
Rick would
pause yes to see what to see what negotiate long enough that he isn't immediately killed do you reckon Rick would pause
yes
to see what
to see what
he's curious
yeah to see
where this is gonna go
okay sure
I think he
I think Rick would
wanna know
what the angle
on this is
right right
and then he'd kill him
then he'd kill him
okay good
yeah
I'd imagine he'd just be
a pile of ash
with like a pair of chucks
yeah like that's how
that would end i think so i don't know how but yeah i don't know the specifics but yeah
interesting what about this one but i think if they both get in the tardis it's the doctor's
fight well it's his yeah it's his arena isn't it he could pull a lever and sure i don't know
what happens yeah he's intangible or something whatever he can but he can... But he can also... The Doctor can teleport the TARDIS around him.
Oh, yeah.
So if it did arrive,
maybe that's how it would arrive
and then they'd both be inside it.
Okay.
All right.
Good.
If he lives long enough.
This is from Max.
Doctor Strange
versus the board game Operation.
Operation would win.
Absolutely.
There's no question there.
For those of you
who are not aware,
Doctor Strange lost
the use of his hands in a car, but not
complete use, but he was in a horrific car accident.
He can use them enough to make the devil horns to some of his magics.
But any kind of fine motor skills?
Yeah.
No.
That's very good.
I love it.
Thank you.
That being said, he has been known to perform surgery using magic.
Do you see what I'm saying?
I see what you're saying.
Yeah.
Yeah. I still think the board game operation wins.
That does not brook no nonsense.
There's no maybes in that.
Yeah, you're right.
You touch the side, that buzz is going off, man.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I don't remember that game very well.
Are you pulling organs out of a man or bits of glass and wrenches and shit?
Oh, no, you're pulling like organs and bones.
You're not pulling shrapnel.
That guy's dead then.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
But he was dead anyway because Doctor Strange is.
That's a good point.
So they both appear at the opposite ends of the football field.
Correct.
And then Doctor Strange has a meltdown.
Yes, he does.
He's like, no, my one weakness, why?
I'm very much looking forward to that Doctor Strange movie, though.
Yeah, yeah.
Man, I'm super pumped for it.
Yeah.
What about this one?
Oh, by the way, you got one there?
Okay, how about, oh, here's one.
This is from Jakob von Schwant on Twitter.
Good stuff.
Professor X versus the Purple Man.
Right.
How about that?
How about that? Do you think Professor X could psychically Man. Right. How about that? How about that?
Do you think Professor X could psychically shut him down?
Yes.
However, well, here's the thing.
Let's say it's Patrick Stewart, Professor X, David Tennant.
He's back.
Yes.
We're making another one.
David Tennant, Purple Man.
Yeah.
Does that, the height of his powers means he can speak over a PA and he's in a hospital?
Yes.
Because none of that happens in Jessica Jones.
Yes, we're going to go with that.
Okay.
Good, good.
Yeah, yeah.
Does he have a megaphone in this scenario?
He does not have a megaphone.
His classic weapon.
No, he does not have his classic weapon, the megaphone.
See, here's the thing, because Professor X, psychic powers, psychic shielding.
Yes.
Purple Man's power, not technically psychic.
No, it's pheromones and whatever.
And movie Professor X, he's super vulnerable to anything that isn't psychic powers, ultimately.
He's been gassed.
He's been distracted slightly.
He's been punched. He He's been distracted slightly.
He's been punched.
He exploded that time.
He exploded that time.
What an idiot.
Yeah.
He injected him with that stuff that made himself walk,
but he couldn't.
How does a wheelchair go on grass?
His wheelchair, the Professor X wheelchair.
Yes.
Would it be okay?
Because in the comics, he's got like a hover wheelchair.
But I don't think, you know what? Movement's not important for him though is it that's true yeah so i don't think he's running down the field or rolling down the field in his wheelchair is he
okay so what's the range on purple man's i'd say well it spanned the hospital so i would say like
i'd say how long does it take to start up though instant isn't it instant no it's i guess if he's
there yeah that's a good point depends on the wind then that's what i'm saying yeah no wind okay no wind
yeah all right standard air movement no wind wait let me check no wind no we did here
yeah uh well yeah look it depends tricky right i think professor x could shut him down before he could yes that being said
the professor x in the movies isn't very good at being professor it's very bad it always seems like
it's his first day professor xing that's right he's his powers are incredible yep but he's very
good at having a small thing get in his way and neutral him. And then Cyclops has to deal with it.
Then Cyclops has to deal with it, exactly.
And you know what?
He's a very dangerous man to control, as we've discovered.
Yeah.
In X-Men 2, when Stryker's son got in his head and made him like,
he was going to kill everyone in the world or something.
That's right, yeah.
Kill all the mutants.
Yeah.
I think Purple Man's got this.
Yes.
I'm going to say, well, see, that's the thing i think i think prophet again they perceive the other one as a threat yeah i think professor x would pause
long enough right yeah for this version yeah i think it would pause long enough for the pheromones
to sort of wash over it yeah and then be like kill yourself yeah exactly yeah run run over your own neck my question then i think would be does professor x have enough psychics like just mental stamina to overcome that no i'm gonna say
yes though really yeah why do you say when have you ever seen him break a mental bond on himself
that's actually a really good point now that i think about it comics yes yes definitely yep in x2 yep he he manages to break out of that psychic bond
briefly that he's under yep that being said he goes he goes back under straight away but also
he's not able to stop like i think movie wise it's going to be killgrave no okay what i was
going to say as well professor x could maybe break the psychic bond but again this isn't this is
pheromones.
Yes.
So he's never seen that before.
What about this one?
It's from Daniel.
Okay.
King Leonidas
of 300
not historically
versus Captain America.
He says both have
six shields
and unclear advantage
strength and durability.
Unclear advanced.
Yes.
Sorry strength and durability.
Which is true.
They both have
super ripped bods.
Oh, yes.
Would you say Leonidas is like peak physical condition in the terms of Captain America?
Oh, in the same way that Captain America is.
Yeah.
He's more ripped.
He's more ripped.
He's definitely bigger.
But he's probably got like...
Weird shrunken balls from all his steroid use.
Yes, that.
And he's also probably got dysentery.
Yeah, that's true. He's also bare got dysentery. Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
He's also barefoot.
He's barefoot.
That's true.
Yeah.
In the comics, he's also naked, I believe.
Oh.
They're all naked.
Well, that's embarrassing.
So that's points against him.
Well, for part of it, he is at least anyway.
So they both have shields.
Yep.
Captain America's shield is obviously, can do things that Leonidas' shield cannot do.
Yep.
Leonidas can take a bunch of arrows and then use his spear to swipe them off.
Yep.
And it looks super cool.
Points for drama.
Points for drama.
But I think Captain America's shield could split his shield in half.
Yes.
Because it's all like a Greek forgery.
It's probably made of bronze or some balls material.
Yeah.
Like, I doubt it's going to do greek forgery it's probably made of bronze or some balls material yeah like i doubt
it's gonna you know do any do any damage yeah it's captain america faster well you would be
wouldn't he i'd say it would be yeah he's got that lean muscle yes that's true he's got that
yeah the runner's muscle that's true yeah i could i'm imagining leonidas running in and doing a leap
with a spear yeah and then captain then Captain America deflecting it.
Uh-huh.
And then just knocking him out with one punch.
One superhuman, enormous punch.
I think it'd take more than one.
More than one punch.
I think this is them going to the ground.
Okay, sure.
Yeah.
Rolling around.
Yes.
Sounds very erotic.
I'm sure somebody's thought about this.
It's on the R rating board.
It's on the R rating board in the movie.
It's like Leonidasardo leonidas versus chris evans naked wrestle so what shields come off i think so
and it's just hand to hand yeah okay so if we're talking prime captain america we're talking
age of ultron we're talking winter soldier yeah where he's had some modern combat training correct
yep leonidas is all like, get in a weird turtle formation.
Like, that's his...
Yep, that's right.
You know, don't break ranks or whatever.
Like, whenever people do break ranks in those movies,
they generally get a whole lot of arrows in them.
Yes, they do.
Yeah.
Make the turtle.
Or whatever, you know.
Form the crab.
That's right.
Just amphibious animals.
That's all we got.
I think if there were four Spartans.
Yes.
Oh, maybe even not.
There are not, though.
Yeah, there's not.
But I'm saying I think he could have some kind of maneuver.
Oh, sure.
You know what I mean?
Like he'd be able to form the crab or the turtle or whatever.
Yeah.
But aside from that, I think on his own, the 300, the advantage of that army is that they've got tactics and they work as a unit.
Yes.
On their own, they're still quite skilled.
They're always fighting in pits of dirt as children or wrestling bears in the woods or whatever.
But I feel like they're more strength in numbers and tactics.
And Captain America specializes in close combat, hand-to-hand stuff.
Also, maybe he has a gun.
He could certainly have a gun.
He generally does it, though, doesn't he?
No, that's true.
But he would pick one up if he needed to.
No guns on the field.
No win, no guns on the field.
Unless you come with a gun.
Unless you come with a gun.
That's right.
Like Batman.
Correct.
So who do you think, though?
I'm going to go Captain America.
Yeah.
I think that's the...
Would he kill him?
I don't think he would.
See, that's the thing.
I also think that if we're saying Captain America,
like prime Captain America,
he sort of weaned himself off killing people.
He has, yeah.
He didn't kill Batroc the Leaper.
He didn't kill Batroc the Leaper.
He didn't kill any of those.
I mean, he probably killed some of those people
that he kicked off the side of the ship.
You know what I mean?
Sure, yeah.
He probably killed those aliens, but they don't count.
No, they certainly don't. Also, he went hand-to-hand with Ultron on side of the ship. You know what I mean? Sure, yeah. Probably killed those aliens, but they don't count. No, they certainly don't.
Also, he went hand-to-hand with Ultron on top of a truck.
It's true.
See, Leonidas do that.
Yeah.
He'd be pasted.
Yeah.
I want to see that fight.
They both, Ultron and Leonidas,
appear end-to-end on a truck on the speeding freeway.
Right.
Because Leonidas would take, like, I don't know,
he wouldn't be able to take it all in,
and he'd fall off.
Yeah.
And that would be the end of that.
What is this?
And then he'd hit an overpass probably.
Just head and overpass.
That's it.
You got one?
Also, you know, that being said, if it came to the ground
and Leonidas got to Captain America's shield,
I think he'd behead him with it.
Yeah, sure he would.
Like old man Logan.
Yeah.
Yeah, totally. How. Like old man Logan.
Yeah, totally.
How about this?
We often talk, in previous ones we've said no doubles.
We're not going to double up.
So we can't be like, oh, Captain America.
But here's one.
This is Jaden Chivers on Twitter.
He said Chris Evans as pre-Juice Steve Rogers in Captain America versus John Krasinski as Jim in The Office.
That's a good one.
Because, look, in the one-
Jim from The Office was nearly Captain America.
Was a bully, yeah.
Like, Jim, yeah, I guess he is a bully.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, on the one hand, we've got Steve Rogers,
like, we've got Steve Rogers pre-Captain America.
He's the little guy.
Yeah.
He's got our physique.
Yes, that's right, yep.
Like, but he's a scrappy fighter. Scrappy, yes. But on the other hand, we've got guy. Yeah. He's got our physique. Yes, that's right. Yep. But he's a scrappy fighter.
Scrappy, yes.
But on the other hand, we've got Jim.
Yeah.
Who, again, is kind of an office bully.
Yeah, but Jim only targets people he doesn't like.
Right.
That being said, in the scenario, he would not like Steve Rogers.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
So they appear opposite ends of a football field.
Correct.
Jim would have to fashion some kind of prank.
But a lot of his pranks are like their months of planning.
Yep.
Like the time that he made an exact copy of Dwight's clothes,
but he made them like Velcro tear off.
Oh, yeah.
That's right.
You can't arrive with that.
You can't put someone's stapler in jelly, like make it in front of him.
Do you see what I'm saying?
No, I see what you're saying.
But he might have some passive-aggressive put-downs.
He definitely would have some passive-aggressive put-downs.
Yeah.
But they're fighting, obviously.
But I think also Krasinski, he's a good enough man that he wouldn't go to physical insults.
No.
He wouldn't be like, you little shrimp man.
Yeah, that's true, actually.
Yeah.
But I think he'd have a very good line in just holding Chris Evans' head,
like holding his forehead at arm's length,
and just having Steve Rogers just swing wildly at him.
That being said, like Chris Evans' Captain America pre-serum would never stop.
That's true, yeah.
So I think it'd have to come to a point where jim would have to incapacitate
him yes but he rare like you said he rarely there's a goes to is there ever a scuffle in
the uh there's he slaps dwight in one episode right i think he gets shoved up against the wall
by like pam's fiancee at some point but he doesn't like right back i don't think he's ever okay been
in a physical confrontation yeah He's good at basketball.
There's an episode where they play basketball.
No basketball on a football field.
No wind.
No basketball.
None of the third thing.
No guns.
No guns.
Steve Rogers doesn't carry a gun generally.
No.
If it was Dwight from The Office, it would be over very quickly because Dwight has a series of ninja stars and nunchucks on him at all times.
So definitely Dwight has a series of like ninja stars and nunchucks on him at all times. So definitely Dwight.
But no, I think John Krasinski would just, he would be amused and he would win.
He would just be smug and amused.
John Krasinski would win, do you think?
Yeah.
Jim from The Office would win, do you think?
Eventually.
Wow.
Because I think he'd get him in a headlock until he passed out or something like that.
Oh, maybe.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah. Okay. That. Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay.
That's a good point.
I think maybe Steve could get a lucky punch in, maybe.
He'd break his wrists.
He's all brittle.
Yeah, but I mean...
He's probably got polio still.
He's probably still got polio.
That's actually a really good point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, who would grab a bit of dirt and just fling it in the other guy's eyes first?
Steve Rogers.
Steve Rogers would do that.
Definitely.
Yeah.
He's not a dirty fighter, but he'll take advantage of the environment.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wonder if he's...
I feel like little Steve Rogers has done some boxing.
Right, okay, yeah.
I reckon he does have some fighting abilities, but he doesn't have strength on his side.
He's got basic army training. Yeah, he's got... Well, yeah he doesn't have strength on his side. He's got basic army training.
Yeah, he's got...
Well, yeah, eventually.
Yeah.
Sure.
So you're still saying Jim from the office?
Yeah, how can you just get him in a headlock and he'd pass out?
Okay.
Yeah.
I reckon it's Steve Rogers.
On grit alone?
On handfuls of dirt?
Handfuls of dirt and a couple of lucky punches, yeah.
Okay.
Because I don't think Jim's ever been in a real fight.
He's never been in a street fight in an alley.
He has to get a garbage can lid and make a makeshift shield out of it.
It's never happened to him.
I can't argue with that.
That's right, yeah.
I cannot argue with that.
Yeah.
What about this one?
I'm ready.
This is from Stefan.
Kratos versus Alex Mercer.
Okay, so Kratos from the God of War game series.
Famous for their sex mini games great and alex mercer from the prototype series yeah i think just the first one i never
played he's the villain in the second one in the second one spoiler alert sorry sorry mate uh so
kratos is obviously filled with rage and uh kratos at full ability he would be a god okay he becomes
the god of war spoiler alert at the end of part one right okay and then he gets stripped of his powers but even then he keeps getting new
weapons off people right like he tears off somebody's feet and has like winged shoes sure
you know and whatever you know he maybe beats up a three-headed dog that's pretty hard i've never
done it alex mercer though can absorb you entirely but would that work on a
greek god i wouldn't because he can't absorb like so alex mercer is essentially a biological
infection that walks like a man yeah like it that has the memories of of the original alex
so he can he can like consume and absorb regular humans. Yes.
But he can't do that to the bigger creatures.
There's a lot of genetically engineered giant monsters and stuff.
He can't absorb them.
So I would say he can't absorb Kratos.
Yep, fair enough.
And how many limbs can Alex Mercer lose?
None, really.
Because he'd grow them back?
Well, he doesn't lose limbs in that game. Like, he's never lost a limb.
There's just a weird spray of blood whenever he makes a big claw hand or something, and then...
Precisely.
And then he...
How do you kill that guy?
How do you kill him in Part 2?
I can't remember.
I know Kratos can be stabbed to death.
Okay, sure.
You take, like, a magical blade or whatever.
Yeah.
Well, in the first one, he's pretty much not completely mortal.
Okay, so what level of Kratos are we talking about?
I feel Godhood is unfair.
Okay.
Like full Godhood is an unfair level.
But he goes Godhood, but then he gets stronger than that as well.
Oh, sure, okay.
Because he starts off not regular human, but he's a bit above regular human.
He's got some of the blades of Olympus and whatever.
These ones.
Yeah, the whippy-chainy ones.
The whippy-chainy ones.
And then he becomes a God of War and then he gets those powers stripped
and he's back to square one.
Okay.
And then he earns all those powers back and he just takes the power
from each God as he goes.
So he's killing gods up to Zeus.
Uh-huh.
And then he kills Zeus.
Spoiler alert for God of War 3.
Alex Mercer I don't think could.
Well, Alex Mercer is essentially a god, I guess.
No.
You don't reckon? No, he's just a. at fighting he's good at fighting troops he's good at fighting
tanks yep he's good at fighting helicopters sure but you know what we say about this this bloody
scenario there's no tanks there's no there's very few basketball games that's right none of those
things so there's no guns on the field that's true so then it's Kratos then it's Kratos yeah what a ridiculous scenario
unlike all these other ones
I mean I guess if it's a
like if it's a douchebag off
who wins there
Kratos
it's still Kratos
he's so unpleasant
yeah unlike him
I don't know anyone's like
he's such a great character
he's not
he's the worst
he's horrible
yeah
I like some of his games
okay
they get a bit samey.
I didn't play the last one.
Even the PSP ones
are quite good actually.
What if it's a running up
walls off?
Then Alex Messer
definitely.
Alex is very good at that.
You know what?
The guys who made
Prototype made the
incredible Hulk
Ultimate Destruction.
Love the same mechanics.
I love that game.
It's real good, right?
It's real good, isn't it?
You got another one
or I got one here?
Okay, here's this one. Look, I like this one for the wording more than anything else. It's real good, right? It's real good, isn't it? You got another one? I got one here. Okay, here's this one.
Look, I like this one for the wording more than anything else.
Good.
This is from at Rory McSweeney on Twitter.
Yep.
It says, hey, Mr. Sunday Movies and Wikipedia Brown.
Hello.
Do Martian Manhunter versus The Vision, they're both out of touch flying guys.
Now, I know where you're going with that.
They're both, they both have the ability to turn intangible.
Correct.
But I like the idea that they're both out of touch.
I thought he genuinely meant that they're out of touch.
They're just kind of like above everything else and they see like the big picture.
They're kind of like, I'm not of this world.
They're out of touch with pop culture.
You're a human problem.
Yeah, exactly.
In a way, their powers are a metaphor.
For?
For them being like not up to date
with current music and stuff that's true yeah okay they probably don't know what kanye did at the
grammys that's right yeah i don't know what he did at the grammys uh okay so this works on a lot of
levels oh god uh the problem with these guys who just have every power yes i just don't even know
where to start right they're just phasing in and out of each other what are they doing yeah look i would say because like they're like they both can employ
the trick where they sort of phase their hand through somebody and then unphase it slightly
and that person like just does a seizure or whatever yeah it seems very unpleasant martian
mana can can read minds right can't read the visions i was gonna say can he read an android's
mind yeah uh okay what else can I do?
Martian manhunt can shapeshift.
Useless.
But again, useless because what can he do?
He can become a big monster or whatever.
Yeah.
He can become intangible again.
See, now I don't even know any of them.
They can both fly.
Yep.
Who cares?
Great.
Good.
Great.
What else?
They're both bloody love humanity or whatever invisible who cares vision could
probably still see him yeah that's true i'm saying for red vision yeah probably so it becomes a
bloody laser off this is just two lasers shooting at each other right and one's a tech-based laser
i guess yeah and one's martian martian bloody vision laser. Does Martian Manhunter splatter when you hit him?
Sometimes, yeah.
I feel if he's not paying attention, he'll splatter.
Yeah, yeah.
But I feel like he would be paying attention.
Yes.
Vision can't read minds, can he?
No.
If you're a machine, he can put his hand on you and bloody read your mind.
Oh, sure, yeah.
Useless.
Useless.
There's no machines on a football field.
No Atari 2600s on the field
they're out of touch they don't know they don't know the players playstation 4s they don't know
they're both also like they look at humanity as like the big picture kind of thing yeah
they'd probably have an existential crisis yeah i don't know vision because he's i reckon it's
vision because he's got the stone in his head he's got the stone in his head? He's got the stone in his head and also Martian Mantis is afraid of fire.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
Okay.
We should have gone to that straight away.
Yeah.
You're right.
So I would say it's going to be a bloody laser off.
Until Vision's on fire.
I mean, until Martian Mantis is on fire.
Exactly.
If he goes intangible, does the fire hurt him?
Yes.
I think it breaks out of his intangibility.
Oh, that's not very good, is it?
Yeah, so I think, yeah.
Okay, well, there you go.
We've bloody done it, haven't we?
We have, yes.
What about this one?
I'm ready.
You gave me this one.
This is from DrRock12 and DrFumbles.
Two distinguished medical practitioners.
They've both given this one.
A blind Hawkeye versus one-armed Green Arrow.
So it's blind Hawkeye from Old Man Logan.
Correct.
It's not Jeremy Renner Hawkeye who's been blinded.
Yes.
This guy is like borderline superhuman.
Yes.
He's like Daredevil with a bow and arrow, basically.
And one-armed Green Arrow is actually coming up
in the future episode of Legends of Tomorrow next week.
They previewed it. Stephen Amell's got the goate of Legends of Tomorrow next week. Yeah. They previewed it.
Stephen Amell's got the goatee.
He's got the goatee.
He looks very homeless.
He sure does.
Let me tell you.
And so it's, yeah, so it's Green Arrow from Dark Knight Returns.
Yeah.
He's lost an arm in some sort of Superman-based scenario.
Yeah, yeah.
I think it's a bomb.
Okay, right.
I think it's a bomb.
Yeah.
And I think it was Superman saved him, but in the process he lost his arm.
Right, okay, yeah.
And, oh, I feel like the Green Arrow is in a very kind of grounded,
he's a very grounded version of that character in a way.
Yep.
Like you don't really see him do anything completely impossible
except for fire an arrow with his teeth.
Sure, yeah.
But how quickly could blind Hawkeye kill him like who's who's firing an arrow quicker
yeah the guy with one arm who fires with his teeth the guy with both his arms who's blind
yeah that felt like a lot of effort like yeah like it seemed like he he fires he fires an arrow
while hanging upside down from a fire escape yes his teeth yes which is very impressive yeah but i
don't think he winged that i think it was think it was like, this is how this is going to happen.
Yeah.
I better plan this out.
Totally.
I can't do this.
Mm.
Mm.
That's exactly it.
You're saying Hawkeye's quicker off the mark.
He's way quicker off the mark.
And also, look, they're both willing to kill each other.
Yeah, definitely.
There's no question there.
Yeah.
And this is first one off the mark.
First one off the mark.
And it's Hawkeye.
That's right. Yeah. Then again, he is pretty nimble, the future Green Arrow. Yeah. And this is first one off the mark. First one off the mark. And it's Hawkeye. That's right.
Yeah.
Then again, he is pretty nimble, the future green arrow.
Yeah.
But he's also-
He can hang off that fire escape.
He can hang off the bloody, the bloody football, the bloody, the bloody goalposts.
Do you think there's any disadvantage-
It would look pretty obvious though.
No, for sure.
Well, he is blind, so it wouldn't matter.
But do you think there's any disadvantage to that version of Hawkeye being blind?
Because I don't feel there is.
Yeah, but I don't feel there is. disadvantage to that version of hawkeye being blind because i don't feel there is yeah but i don't feel there is he's still got the hawkeye he's got amazing
he's still he's still an amazing shot yeah he goes by sound and he's still incredible how quiet
is green arrow well there's grass it's a little bit rustly isn't it a little bit rustly exactly
yeah yeah maybe if he didn't move yeah but i feel like you'd at least hear the quiver.
The arrow would clack as it comes out.
Yeah, that's true.
The sound of his mouth opening.
Would that give Green Arrow enough time?
Like if he's totally silent,
he waits for Hawkeye to turn his back for a second.
Because Hawkeye's going to need a fraction of a second
to get his bearings right.
He's blind.
He'd be like, this is a football field.
Yeah.
Wait.
Football stadium.
That's what he'll say.
Yeah.
I don't know if he's, but do you think Green Arrow would know that he's blind?
No.
Wait, does he wear a bandage around his eyes?
No, he's got glasses.
Oh.
Yeah.
Probably just think he's cool then.
I mean, this is like this.
The last scenario was two guys who were very out of touch.
These guys are very in touch.
That's true.
They're hip cats.
Let's just go through the mechanics of pulling out,
firing an arrow with one arm and your teeth.
So he pulls it out.
He's got his quiver over his shoulder.
Yes.
Because he'll need to,
because he needs his free arm to grab the arrow.
Yep.
So he grabs the arrow out, puts it in his teeth,
takes the quiver off, holds it out. Yep. Then he grabs the arrow out, puts it in his teeth, takes the quiver off, holds it out.
Yep.
Then somehow, having the quiver in his hand,
takes the arrow out and positions it in his teeth and then positions it in the bow and then pulls his head back,
which is what I'm doing now.
Fire, sad, fire away.
Theatre of the mind, everyone.
And then fires the arrow.
Yes.
That's...
Even if he's the best in the world at that
that's three seconds yes it is he's dead yeah it's hawkeye okay great that was hard to even think
about you got one uh i've got a good one it's a short one okay i'm ready in the meantime this is
from alex scrooge mcduck versus bruce Wayne. He specifies not Batman, Bruce Wayne.
I mean...
Well, it's a man versus a duck, isn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're both rich,
but I don't think Bruce Wayne would care about killing a duck.
Maybe a sentient duck.
No, he'd care about killing a sentient duck.
Yeah.
Do you think you'd have to pretend that he's not skilled
to keep his identity?
No, no, because there's nobody...
This is a football field.
It's not like the Gotham football field.
It's not the G, C, F.
In any case, like, yeah, thank you.
In any case, even if that were the case,
they're like, oh, look, it's socialite Bruce Wayne
fighting some sort of weird duck monster.
Like, I think it'd be fine if Bruce Wayne just, like, choked him out.
Yeah, definitely.
They'd be like, Alfred, help.
You watch a lot of DuckTales.
Yes.
With the podcast, It's a Duck Blur.
Correct.
We've watched at least two.
Numerous times.
Yeah.
Yep.
Did, what's...
Oh, which reminds me, this week, I should have mentioned up top, this week I make a
return appearance on the podcast Beer Eye with Your Mates Guys.
Nice.
Which is a podcast where my friend Murphy McLaughlin, comedian, gets a whole bunch of mates guys together and we drink a beer and we talk about
stuff i don't drink beer i drink cider it's addressed in the show stop bringing it up anyway
have a good old time you should everybody should listen to that did you again this time promise
that they'd get the most downloads ever or did they make that promise uh it was made it was made
after the show had finished recording to somebody else who was on the show.
Right.
Who has previously been on all his least downloaded episodes.
So if everybody can again download this episode.
Even if you don't listen to it.
Doesn't matter.
Prove a point.
Just to prove a point about internet celebrities.
Be right with your mates.
Be right with your mates, guys.
Guys.
I love the name.
He chokes out the duck.
But what skills does...
How fast is Scrooge McDuck?
He's a duck.
He can't fly, can he?
Well, he's probably got like a coat on.
I've never seen a duck fly in that show.
No, that's true.
He's got a cane.
He's got a cane, that's true.
He could probably give Bruce Wayne
a good couple of whacks on the shin. Definitely. But again, it's true. He's got a cane. He's got a cane. That's true. He could probably give Bruce Wayne a good couple of whacks on the shin.
Definitely.
But again, it's man versus duck.
It is man versus duck.
And man always wins.
So true.
Man's the most dangerous duck of all.
In a way.
In a way, right?
You got that one ready?
Oh, all right.
How about this from Hyper Evisceration?
We talked about Evisceration before.
It's dangerous.
Stop it.
Nightwing versus Winter Soldier.
So that's two sidekicks.
It's a sidekick versus sidekick battle.
I would say they've evolved past that being sidekick.
Nope, still sidekicks.
If you're like, it's Bucky versus Robin.
Yep.
Wasn't Bucky like a secret assassin?
Yeah, he was a bad guy.
Yeah.
I mean, originally, like, you know, he was just...
I was like, let's go, Cup.
Let's have fun.
I'm a fun guy.
I'm a little kid in really dangerous wartime scenarios for no reason,
and the government approves this.
What's going on?
But then when Ed Brubaker started writing the Captain America series,
he was like, why would you have a kid in that scenario?
Because he's like an assassin.
He's been, for whatever reason, this kid has been trained to like do all the terrible things
that Captain America is unwilling to do
or they don't want to show him.
Dig the latrines.
Yeah, dig the latrines.
Exactly.
Or like, you know, poison a town's water supply.
Yeah, yeah.
Like Captain America comes in and he's like,
we're going to smash the Nazis.
And he beats up some soldiers.
But like Bucky will get on a rooftop and shoot a store owner or whatever because he's supplying food to the Nazis and he beats up some soldiers, but like Bucky will get on a rooftop and shoot
a store owner or whatever because he's supplying food to the Nazis or whatever, you know?
Absolutely.
So, yeah.
So they both moved on.
Definitely.
I think Bucky would definitely defeat Robin.
Robin?
Yeah.
Yeah, sure.
I'd agree with that.
Dick Grayson, Robin.
He'd kill him straight away.
But what about Nightwing?
Yeah.
Okay.
Nightwing is like, I would say Nightwing is...
I think Nightwing could go toe-to-toe with Batman.
Yeah.
I don't think he could win.
Yep.
But I think he would probably...
He's one of the ones who could...
He's been trained by Batman.
Yep.
He's younger than Batman.
He's arguably faster.
He's faster than Batman.
Yeah.
Better acrobat.
He can do three somersaults or something.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, so... he's got that advantage
I guess over
Winter Soldier
Winter Soldier's got the metal arm
that flies off and chokes you though
sure yeah
it's true
I wonder if it can still do that
I bet it can
it's yet to do that again
like it only did it the once
I feel
it doesn't mean that it can't do it
alright
but would you
see that's the thing though
if he
like the scenario in which you take
your arm off yeah like he's he's losing that arm he's not getting it back i'm feeling he's not
getting it back like i'd say if he if he like jettisons the arm it flies across the football
field yeah and it goes to choke nightwing nightwing gets out like he's like a taser like the batons
which like a zap zaps him.
And then the arm's out for the count.
That's true.
And then it's just Nightwing fighting a guy with one arm,
which is, you know, you know what I mean?
Not going to go well.
No.
So do you think Nightwing has this?
I think maybe Winter Soldier's a better fist fighter.
I'm going to say, but that's the thing.
I'm saying he's not going to take the arm off.
It's not going to happen.
No, no, no, I don't agree with that.
And I'm, look.
That's not his go-to move, is it?
That's not his go-to move, exactly.
To shoot.
I mean, Winter Soldier often has guns.
That's true.
I'm going to say he's got a gun.
Yeah.
He's definitely got a gun.
But I still don't feel that that would be a problem for Nightwing.
Yeah.
I think he'd still be able to maneuver quickly enough.
Yeah, he's fast enough.
And I think he could take a couple of strays.
Yeah, definitely.
Suits bulletproof.
Yeah. What are his sticks called Suits bulletproof. Yeah.
What are his sticks called?
Tonfa sticks.
Yeah.
Do you think that beats a metal arm?
No.
No?
I don't think it does.
I think he loses them all.
Like I think when they get to a close in fight,
he loses those almost immediately.
Don't you think he'd be able to zap his arm and like disable it?
I'm going to say not if it's.
No, I'm going to say that that it's... I'm going to say that trick
to me would only work if it's not connected.
I don't know why.
You see Captain America...
I think Black Widow throws a thing on us.
That's true, he does.
That's a movie version. It's different.
Let's throw that rule in. That's fine.
I think that would only be a temporary thing as well.
Would Winter Soldier
be able to fight him off with one arm as his arm gets reboots?
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you still think it's Winter Soldier?
I think it's a long fight.
Yeah.
I think if Winter Soldier got him around the neck with his metal arm, it wouldn't matter
how many times Nightwing hit him.
Yes.
Because that arm works on its own accord.
Yes.
So he'd just be locked into it.
Mm-hmm.
So I think if it
came down to that,
a man choking
another man with
a metal arm, as
it often does,
then that would
be the case.
Yeah, I reckon
if it gets into
that far, it's
Winter Soldier.
I reckon Nightwing
could probably
take it ranged.
He'd win ranged,
I think.
Or if he jumps
up that bloody
goalpost.
Which he would.
Just bloody Batarang'd him. Nightwing would. Just bloody Batarang'd him.
Nightwing-arang'd him.
Nightwing-arang'd him.
Nightwing-agassigar-anade him.
I'm not convinced that Winter Soldier would win.
Okay.
Give me your best interpretation why he wouldn't.
Just getting punched a lot.
Oh, sure.
He's very resilient, though.
It's true.
He's borderline superhuman true he's borderline superhuman
he's borderline pain proof
but you gotta look at the people
that Nightwing has gone up against as well
like all manner of like
you know you kill a Croc
and you're Mr. Freeze
like he's fought people
much stronger than he is
yes but Croc's a lot slower
that's true
Winter Soldier's pretty quick
yeah
Mr. Freeze
he's just cracking with a can of soup,
which is what Batman did in the animated series.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why do you have that can of soup on him?
Because he's Batman, I guess.
Yeah, that's right.
Does that mean Batman always has a can of soup on him?
We've got to go back and factor that in now.
God, I didn't think about that.
Yeah, I'm not convinced, but yeah, I guess I have to concede.
Yeah, I think it's going to be
winter soldier i'd like it to be nightwing i feel he's a better character yeah he's a better
character and he has more pedigree in terms of in terms of he's been around longer yeah like
bucky's i mean bucky's been around since the 40s but he's been in stasis for like that's true 60
years or whatever that's a good point yeah Yeah. I'd like to be Nightwing, but I think it's Winter Soldier.
All right.
I've got a few more here, but what are we?
We're on short on time, so we'll save them up.
I've got some of his saves, so we'll get to them next time.
Do you want to do any more?
How about this?
Check a Riyahi on Twitter.
Bruce Wayne's parents versus Tony Stark's parents.
You know who's quicker to be dead off?
Yes.
But all right. First of all, this is probably unfair,
but Martha Wayne's done and Mrs. Stark, they don't do anything.
They're non-characters, essentially.
In one reality, Martha Wayne becomes the Joker.
Not this one, though.
Not this one, okay.
They're standing by the sidelines clutching their pearls.
It's Howard Stark versus Thomas Wayne. not this one okay they're standing by the sidelines clutching their pearls it's howard stark versus
thomas wayne thomas wayne i feel like batman's the size of thomas wayne alone gives him the
advantage like he's not really he's a he's not i don't imagine he's a heavy drinker yep he's a
doctor he looks like he's probably worked out a little bit or he's got like 1950s fitness yep
and i would say
even though it's not the 50s
again if these guys
are like pulled randomly
from their realities
and placed here
I would say there's an
80% chance
Howard Stark is drunk
yeah
sure yep
and do we ever see
Howard Stark in a fist fight
he avoids confrontation
he's always like
hey doll
I'm just trying to make a movie
that's what he's doing
in the current season
he has like
he's a guy who builds
a lot of deadly gadgets
yes but the odds of him actually having one on him yeah slim to none yeah he's not tony
stark in that way he doesn't have a watch that becomes an iron man glove does he that's right
that would be pretty sweet though yeah i'm trying to think has he ever had any kind of useful tech
on him in the show in agent carter yeah i don't think so no a lot of his tech doesn't work either
have you noticed that yeah it's like a vest that explodes or something.
It is, yeah.
No, I think it's Thomas Wayne.
Thomas Wayne has courage also.
Yeah, that's true. Like he'll step in front of a bullet.
Like he doesn't care.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, and then what?
Martha Wayne and...
What's Tony Stark's mother's name?
Can't remember.
I don't remember that.
She's not really...
She's not in it much, is she?
No, that's true, yeah.
She hasn't even been cast in the MCU or anything.
Yeah.
Maria Stark.
Maria Stark, okay, yeah, yeah.
I don't know what she can even do.
I don't know enough about her.
I think they would just snipe at each other.
Okay.
Like passive-aggressively.
Are they both?
Like real, like, oh, I love how you just wear anything.
A bit of that, like a real...
Isn't Martha Wayne like a humanitarian though?
Yeah, that's true yeah
but what's maria probably a drunk probably a drunk also i i feel like she'd be a pretty sassy lady to
tame howard stark though yeah she would have to have been because he's like i'm dating four models
at once i don't care that's actually very true she's probably good in a fistfight yeah i'm gonna
give it to maria stark done in your your face, Martha. That's right.
You know, when you clutch at your pearls while your teeth are kicked in.
All right.
You got one more?
Sure, we'll do it.
We can do one more.
This one's from Tanner.
It just says, Mad Max Fatal 4-Way.
So what he's saying is it's the four different Mad Maxes.
And they essentially are.
Yeah.
I mean, they're technically supposed to be the same character.
You could say they're all different characters.
They're all from different universes.
Yeah, it does feel like that.
All right, let's finish with this four.
Okay.
So you look at the first one from the first Mad Max movie.
He's done.
He's got no skills.
No skills.
Gets his leg run over.
Yeah.
He's not that mad.
He's not even that mad.
Yeah.
Mad Max 2, next to the hardy Mad Max, is probably the most...
Mad?
Yeah.
But he's also got the leg brace.
Yeah.
He's still in recovery.
That's true.
Yeah.
But he's pretty bloody mad.
Yeah.
Mad Max 3 has almost superhuman reflexes.
Correct.
He can catch things behind his head.
Yep. He knows when somebody's in the room and he also has that weird springy fist fight
with a big guy.
That's true, yeah.
With a big guy with Down syndrome.
On bungee cords, yeah.
And Mad Max 4 is Tom Hardy.
Correct.
So three of these are Mel Gibson.
Yes.
Prime Mel Gibson.
Yes.
Secretly racist Mel Gibson.
Correct.
Nobody knew.
Yep.
But Tom Hardy's British, so he has no power there.
That's right.
And Tom Hardy is, he looks real scary.
Yeah, that's true.
He's the most physically active Max.
He also has the leg brace.
You can see it under his.
But then Mad Max 3 has the leg brace.
That's also true, yeah.
They've all got a bung leg.
Yeah.
So, except for the first one.
Oh no, he gets his leg run over.
He would get his leg run over.
Does any of these,
they all have the Mad Max car?
Do all the people in the car?
I know you said no vehicles.
Because it's an integral
part of the character.
I'm going to say,
let's do one scenario yes,
one scenario no.
Okay.
Yes, Tom Hardy's car gets flipped.
Yeah, so he's out of the race.
He's dead immediately
Yep
I feel
I feel if it's cars and it's a demolition derby
Mad Max 2 cars get flipped as well
Yeah
And Mad Max 3, he has a donkey in a cart
Yeah
So he's not going to win, is he?
I'm going to say
Yeah, look
I'm going to say
If it's a demolition derby
It's them just driving their cars around
And one's a donkey in a cart One's a donkey in a car I'm going to say if it's a demolition, it's them just driving their cars around. And one's a donkey in a car.
One's a donkey in a car.
I'm going to say...
In a cart.
Yeah, okay.
I'm going to say even though two flips his car,
I feel two...
Yeah.
I feel two's the best driver probably.
Yeah.
Four.
It's two versus four.
Four almost walks away from his crash.
Yeah.
Two doesn't.
Two's real fucked up.
Okay.
Do you remember?
Yeah, yeah.
He's all like bung-eyed and stuff.
Okay, let's give it to...
Demolition Derby, it's four.
Unless they're all on Hungry Hungry Hippo style bungee cords,
in which case it's three.
I think it might even be one.
Yeah?
Because he's got...
His body's not broken.
I guess that's true.
Yeah, okay.
He's used to a lot of street racing.
Yeah, okay.
I don't know whether that gives you an advantage in a football field.
During a demolition derby.
Yeah.
And he's got probably the freshest car.
That's true, yeah.
But then the other guys, they've got nothing to lose anymore.
That's true.
Yeah.
And maybe that first man, Max, still has his family.
Who's to say?
Who is to say?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I might give it to one. one okay let's give it to one
all right i'm not happy about it okay but in a non-vehicle fist fight yeah do any of the can
two bring dog boy with the boomerang dog boy you can't bring dog boy you can't bring bruce spence
in a little weird helicopter thing you can't bring charlie's the rod with a metal arm you can't bring
the guy and he's butts exposed You can't bring the big monster man
that might be the
bloody the guy
from the first one
but it isn't.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
I still think it's four.
I mean, look what that guy
went through.
Yeah, that's true.
Like he had the most action.
Yeah.
Did he get shot?
I don't think he gets shot,
does he?
He fights the giant guy.
Yeah.
Humongous or whatever his name is.
No, Humongous was in.
I don't think he fights Humongous.
No, he doesn't.
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
I think we'll give it to him.
It's also a thing of like, if you can imagine like Rocky Balboa fighting like Rocky IV.
Yes.
It's like a weird 80s cartoon guy versus a real guy kind of thing.
That's very true, yeah.
So like Mad Max 3 is the cartoon guy. Yeah. And Mad Max 4 is a real guy that's very true yeah so like mad max 3 is the cartoon guy
yeah mad mac 4 is a real guy yeah so i have to give it to the real guy yeah i'd imagine mad max
4 yes would get on the goal post and just be swinging back and forth on it that's true i've
forgotten there's taking dudes out forgotten there's bungee cords in 4 as well bungee cords
are a recurring thing put it up on the board movie executives we want movies with bungee cords in four as well. Bungee cords is a recurring theme. Put it up on the board. Movie executives,
we want movies
with bungee cords.
Was Mad Max R-rated?
It must have been, right?
Fury Road?
Yeah.
I think so.
Got a dude's face torn off
so it probably was.
It came right off, didn't it?
Bloody hell,
that's a good movie, isn't it?
Pretty good, right?
Yeah.
I think that's it.
We'll definitely come back to this.
Yeah, we'll come back.
I've got more to go
so next time.
Do you want to do any more?
Like a quick one
or do we leave it there?
Captain Phasma versus Boba Fett.
This is from Michael Pacholik on Twitter.
Who's the crappest character?
Who's the crappest character?
I guess Phasma's better because she gets thrown into a trash compactor
and we assume she escapes.
Yes, but also a lot of people assume that Boba Fett escapes.
That's true.
Canon we don't know.
Canon we don't know.
But also we don't know. No, we know Gwendolyn Christie is back for the Fett escaped. That's true. Canon, we don't know. Canon, we don't know. But also, we don't know.
No, we know Gwendolyn Christie is back for the next Star Wars.
That's true, yeah.
We know that for a fact.
But I'd imagine that they're going to bring Boba Fett back.
Yeah.
Like, they can't not.
They can't leave him in the embarrassing situation
they left him in in Return of the Jedi.
But in a fight.
Boba Fett's got...
Well, you know what?
Boba Fett can't fall into any pits.
That's true.
So maybe that's his one... He could fly into the side of the Fett can't fall into any pits that's true so maybe
he could fly into the side
of a goal post
and break his own neck
that's true
but okay
we'd have to factor in
the new canon for Boba Fett
where he's very competent
in the comics
or do you just want to go
the movie version
movies
this says
then he's shit
as presented in current canon
but then he says
so just episode 5 to 7
right
yeah
what does Phasma do we
never say you do anything no she makes you take some orders people seem to people fear her i feel
like she got to that position because she's probably good at it sure and i think she gave
up the plans that she shut down the machine the death that's not the death star the star killer
because she's like you don't have a chance at this. So it might as well. It doesn't matter.
Right, right, okay.
But you also have the theory that Boba Fett fumbled his way to the top.
Yes, I do.
That's true, yeah.
Like that it's just the cool outfit.
It's like a tough guy at school who's just big because nobody's ever challenged him.
Correct.
Yeah.
And maybe there's a little mouse droid that follows him around.
He's like the Inspector Gadget.
But there's a little mouse droid that follows him around and fixes everything. inspector gadget when his little mouse droid follows him around and fixes everything and like and like you know he bumps over the the
bounty the mercenary's trying to track down and then boba fett just shows up and then the chief's
like you've done it again boba fett and he's like i sure did i'm the best i bloody did it also
darth vader warns boba fett he no disintegrations. Yeah. Which says to me that Boba Fett disintegrated somebody either accidentally or on purpose
in the past.
And he shouldn't have done it.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I guess so.
Maybe Vader wasn't clear.
Sure, yeah.
He was like, can you bring me this guy?
And he just brings him like a pile of ash.
And he's like, dude, come on, you're better than this.
Yeah.
But I still think it's Phasma.
Okay. She's probably a better shot as well.
All right.
I don't think we see Boba Fett fire his gun or his rifle, blaster rifle.
I'm sorry, everybody.
It's okay.
I'm trying to think.
I think he raises it a few times, but we never see him shoot it.
But then again, we never see Phasma do it either.
We never see Phasma do anything besides get thrown into a trap.
You know what
they both fall over i don't know i don't know you say that flies into the side of the break
his own neck i don't know i feel yep and then phasma leans over to see what's going on and
is incinerated by his it's just like she switched he hits a switch and he's like what's that do i
wonder incinerated by the flamethrower
done
awesome
but we look forward to seeing
what they do next
in their movies
alright
you know what it's time for then
oh it's time for our famous segment
what we're reading
what we're gonna read
I said the whole thing
you did
that's the theme song
doesn't it
I'm doing the theme
what are we reading
today
there it is what are you bloody reading oh I finally got to did you talk about it What are we reading today?
There it is.
What are you bloody reading?
Oh, I finally got to.
Did you talk about it last week?
Have you been watching? Yarn Boy.
I'll be talking about it.
Yarn Boy.
God.
I've been watching Louis C.K.'s sitcom.
I haven't watched the second.
How many episodes is it in?
There's four out and I've watched three.
Oh, my God.
I've only watched one.
So Louis C.K., for people who don't know, you probably know,
stand-up comedian Louis C.K., for people who don't know, you probably know, stand-up comedian Louis C.K. has released...
He's written, directed, produced and self-funded a sitcom
that he releases on his website.
It's called Horace and Pete.
It's about...
It's him as Horace and Steve Ushami as Pete.
Yep.
And they both run like a downtrodden dive bar.
That they hate.
That they hate.
And they're just...
And it's got Steve Buscemi, it's got Alan Alda,
it's got Edie Falco, it's got a theme song by Paul Simon.
Yes.
And it's just...
It's not a comedy so much.
I mean, it's funny.
It's kind of like a sad version of Cheers.
It's like sad comedy so much. I mean, it's funny. It's kind of like a sad version of Cheers. It's like sad Cheers.
Because like when, so most people know Louis from his, you know, FX show Louis.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But prior to that, he also had a sitcom called Lucky Louis, which was on HBO.
And it was basically like, this is a fun family sitcom, except it's a family who are just kind of struggling and they're not doing too well.
It's like sad situations and they're poor
and there's bad language and adult situations.
But it's got like the set of like full house.
It's got the multi-camera set up and the audience
and it didn't do well, but it's very interesting to watch.
Yeah. Is it good though?
It's pretty good.
I've never seen it.
But yeah, so this I guess is his take on Cheers,
which is just a whole bunch of sad people in a bar.
Drunks in a bar.
Just being drunk.
Drinking watered down alcohol.
Watered down alcohol and being racist and just thinking about better times and being sad.
That's right.
And it's really interesting.
Yeah, totally.
I love the first episode.
First episode's five bucks, then one episode's two bucks.
Because people got upset.
People got upset that a TV show he's made by himself and paid for himself
starring like award-winning actors
costs five bucks for an hour.
Yeah.
And so he's like,
well, okay,
well the next one's two bucks
and I'll just release them for three.
Yeah.
Because that's the standard price for...
That's insanity.
Yeah, it is, right?
Just pay five bucks.
It goes.
But again,
if you go into it expecting fun,
hilarious times,
it's definitely not that.
There are funny moments.
Alan Alda is so good in that. Yeah, he is i love the the moment in the first one where the tax guy consults him he's like how much do you get paid he's like none of your business yeah like i
take what i want from the till what i wonder about you know when you see somebody like alan alda
here's a thought that i had yeah is it that he looks very good for his age and they age him up
for this yeah does he look really old and they age him up for this? Yeah.
Or does he look really old and they de-age him when he does, like, a mainstream movie?
That's a very good question.
I'm going to look up Alan Alda.
2015.
See what he looks like.
Okay, good.
You have to say 2015 because there wouldn't be enough pictures of him yet.
Correct.
No, he looks good, man.
He looks sharp.
He must have been aged up.
Yeah.
Because they give him that sweater and he kind of hunches over.
Yeah, true.
I don't know what this picture is.
Can you explain this? I'm going to knock
it
he looks like
he's got a bomb
old Alan Alda
with a bomb
strapped to his neck
it must be like
like an episode of
24 or something
yeah exactly
I don't know
but it doesn't
I don't know
anyway what you've
been reading this week
I watched a movie
I've been meaning
to see for ages
it's called Room it's not called The room right um if you don't know the premise all you
really want to know is when you go in uh there's a girl and she's basically she's not a girl she's
like mid-20s she's been she's not a girl she's not yet a woman that's right uh she's she's been
kidnapped it's been made clear from from the. And she's been trapped in this room. And in the time in her being there and being kept by this guy,
she's had a son to him.
And it's them in this room.
And I don't know.
If you haven't seen it,
I don't really want to go into any more kind of detail with it.
It's very harrowing, but also very uplifting.
Is it set?
Is it set?
You don't have to save it to spoil it.
Is it set after?
Is she released?
Sorry, guys. The memory card got full and we stopped recording the podcast.
We've had like 120 episodes of that memory card.
No, no, I have been deleting it, but I just haven't done it in a while. No, no, that's a full, that's got 120 episodes on it.
It had, I just deleted them all.
Oh no!
Yeah, so look, the room, just bloody, if you like a harrowing ordeal,
bloody get into it.
We've got two harrowing recommendations.
We certainly do.
Do we watch anything fun this week?
I watch something fun-ish.
Walking Dead came back.
Oh, yes.
You're into it, aren't you?
Nope.
I think you should watch just the back end of this season.
You keep saying that.
The back end.
Just this from now.
All right, fine.
It's got a great opening.
Okay.
It's got an amazing opening.
What season is this?
Five or something? I don't fucking know. It's got a great opening. Okay. It's got an amazing opening. What season is this?
Five or something? I don't fucking know.
It just goes forever.
Great.
It's just people meandering in the woods.
It doesn't sound fun.
It's not fun.
It's garbage.
It's not that bad.
Okay, great.
It's weird.
It's a weird mix of like, you know what?
Otis Trailers did an Otis Trailer on it this week.
Yes.
And they really summed it up.
It's like there's like four or two or four really great episodes.
Yes.
There's like eight filler.
And there's like three to six.
Okay.
Ones,
which is pretty much what it is.
And there's a lot of people like discussing,
they're like,
we've got to do what's good for the community.
And then he's like,
I don't want to be in charge.
And then he's like,
I'm in charge.
I have to say you're really selling it.
Well,
you know,
I just know,
I just think it'd be interesting episode to talk about because it is one of
the most popular shows in the world. shouldn't say it's crap it's not
people are good in it like the special effects is amazing i just feel like this story wise it could
it could be whittled down from however many episodes there are a season to like 10 like 10
really good ones right but they don't just goes forever makes a lot of money though and then
there's amc's walking dead which goes on straight after and they talk about how great every episode
is or whatever which i've never seen anyway walking dead's back who cares you know what
you know what it's time for what is it time for friend and let us think let's let us let us
wait i was gonna say you were bloody on that today. I was bloody on that and then everything fell to pieces.
Then I'm like, well, volume's down and then like.
That sounded loud enough in these ones, mate.
Okay, here we go.
The classic one was.
That bloke's got some good pipes, mate.
Yeah, he does.
Yeah.
All right.
I've got some letters for the week.
RKM, 424.
That's it.
This is from Peter K.
Hey, the other week I remembered that you guys are Australian.
I wanted to ask you a question.
What?
But I probably forgot to do that, so I'll ask now.
What do you think about Farscape,
and do you think the series could ever return in a normal,
non-comic book format?
Given the current lack of
quality space themed TV shows this era of
sci-fi is greatly missed from Peter Kay
do you ever watch Farscape? Yeah it was
too Muppety for me. Too Muppety? Yeah. It was
filmed in Australia wasn't it? Yeah it was the home of
Muppets. The home of
a lot of our creatures look like Muppets don't they
a lot of our animals. The Bilby
looks like a Muppet. That's true remember they tried to
replace the Easter Bunny with the Easter bilby in Australia?
Because they're like, the rabbit is a pest.
The bilby is a national treasure.
Who cares what a fucking, I've never seen a bilby.
I've seen a lot of bloody.
Put it on the bloody border.
Kids want native Australian.
No, we don't care.
We want the chocolate.
That's right.
Just give us chocolate.
Just give us the bloody chocolate slurry.
That's what we want.
Just a bloody machine that shoots chocolate in our mouths.
Do you remember the movie Hop where Russell Brand played the son of the Easter Bunny or voiced him?
Yep.
He just wanted to be a drummer and he lived with James Marsden.
Great.
Maybe he could also rap because they all do.
Yep.
I never really saw it.
You know who's a big fan of this though?
My brother.
The one you don't like.
Thank you.
And he, there's a lot of parallels, apparently,
between this and Guardians.
Yeah, okay, I see that.
Yeah.
All right.
I'm not saying it's stolen.
My brother's saying that, though.
Wow.
Let him hit him up.
Yeah.
That's right.
But it's, I feel like if there was a window for this to come back it was around guardians
and then they kind of missed it yeah i feel like with star wars and battle star maybe coming back
and then another guardians there might be and another star trek tv series and a movie
maybe that window is kind of opening up again but i think they need to get in before we get a bloody slew of them. Yes.
Also.
Before Firefly comes back.
Yes, exactly.
Which is definitely going to happen very soon.
Fingers crossed.
I think it's going to have to be like a fresh start.
If they're going to do a movie, a new series,
it's going to have to be you don't have to know anything about these characters going in because it's too late for me.
It is.
I'm not going back to the Jim Henson Creature Workshop weird looking Muppets situation.
Me 2000 Muppets.
I can't go back to it.
I don't have the time.
Or the patience.
Or the patience.
Or the energy.
Yeah.
Or the foresight.
None of those things.
Yeah.
So, no.
No.
No Farscape.
Correct.
Soft reboot if it is.
Yeah.
Is that what you're saying?
Not even soft reboot, but more like Serenity where you don't have to know any of the characters really.
No.
You can just go in fresh.
But you learn to love them.
You learn to love them, exactly.
Good stuff.
But yeah, like I said, my brother's a big fan of that series and I know a lot of people are,
especially if you love Muppets.
This is from Thomas, at GeekySportsFan on Twitter.
Would you rather see a Red Hood Batman solo movie
or a Hush Batman solo movie?
Bear in mind, we'll probably see both.
I'd imagine.
Red Hood.
Hush is too complicated.
To do immediately?
And also, that's the thing.
Like, I don't...
Hush's origin is...
I don't like it.
It's, again, the way...
Are we spoiling Hush, I guess?
I guess.
I'm sure we've done it before.
Yeah.
Like, the problem with Hush is
that it was this weird mystery
of who's Hush
and then it turned out
Hush was the only new character
introduced in that story.
In Hush.
In Hush, yeah, exactly.
Well, obviously it's...
Yeah.
And they were like,
oh, maybe it's going to be,
you know,
maybe Jason Todd back from the dead
and it wasn't.
No, it wasn't. And that was... Yes, and it's... No's going to be you know maybe jason todd back from the dead yeah and it wasn't no it wasn't but then that was yes and it's not does then again canonically if
they bring back if they're like is it jason todd they'd have to do it first nah i mean if they if
they were doing a straight adaptation i guess that's true look i think i think red hood is
better because we know there's a dead robin yes in this universe yep and so we can much more easily
bring him back so
yeah i don't think anybody would be tricked by the hush twist yeah and also again nobody knows
who hush is but everybody knows batman and robin even if you've never read a comic book or anything
like that you know batman and robin yep and this might throw you for a loop yep but you'd be like
oh it's a robin yep now he's now he's a villain isn't that a fun twist it's a Robin, now he's a villain. Isn't that a fun twist? It's a bloody Robin.
Like we've seen, like we have been aware of this for years,
but people who just go to the movies to have a fun time,
they'd be like, what an amazing twist.
What an amazing twist, exactly.
Yeah, that's a really good point.
But you know what?
That being said, Hush has a whole lot of good kind of showdowns
between Batman and a bunch of supervillains.
Yeah, yeah.
That's true.
Which would be cool to see.
Like I'd like to see more of Batman's rogues gallery
and Hush would be a good opportunity to do that.
Red Hood has a few, but it has like a maze of...
But also I feel you could do that with Red Hood.
Yeah, totally.
You could just have him say,
okay, I'm organizing these villains
and I know Batman's secret identity,
so I'm going to send all these villains at him.
You don't need Hush at all.
That's a good point.
Yeah, I agree.
Should have just made him Robin in the first place.
In your face.
Do you reckon they did when they were like, shit.
Yeah, I feel they originally were like,
Hush is going to be revealed as Jason Todd.
Yeah.
And then they're like, for whatever reason, we can't do it.
We have to retool this story.
Yeah.
That may or may not be true, but all the clues point that way.
It's true.
And it seems very odd.
Yes.
It seems very odd that that will be...
It's a very specific and weird fake out
to have everyone think it's Jason Todd
and then the reveal be it's just the one,
it's the new guy.
Right.
Who cares?
Fair enough.
Okay, so a lot of people have tweeted this.
I don't know if it's for anybody specifically,
but Shia LaBeouf is in an elevator. Sure. Is he currently... Is he still in the elevator? I don't know if it's for Anybody specifically But Shia LaBeouf Is in an elevator
Sure is he currently
Is he still in the elevator
I don't know
I only read the headlines
Sure yeah
But he's live streaming
Or something
Yeah
He's in England
He also punched a guy
In the face or something
Well he was doing a talk there
And so he decided to
Ride the elevator all day
Chatting to people
Where does he pee
Is he peeing in the elevator
Yeah he leaves to pee
Oh well then he's not
In an elevator
In your face
What's the name of that guy
He's a magician
But he's really just That endurance guy And he's always just In Oh, well, then he's not in an elevator. In your face. What's the name of that guy? He's a magician, but he's really just that endurance guy.
And he's always just in a box above the streets or whatever?
I don't know.
Okay, great.
Streeto magician.
Yeah, streeto magician.
Not Criss Angel.
No, doesn't matter.
Not the amazing Burt Wonderstone.
No.
Anyway, what I'm saying is that is a real endurance trick.
If you're in an elevator for 24 hours, but you're leaving to pee and eat
and check your emails and make phone calls, you're not're in an elevator for 24 hours but you're leaving to pee and eat and check your emails and make phone calls you're not really in an elevator for 24 hours
you it's like saying i'm i'm in this i'm in stuck in this broom closet all 24 hours but i'm going
into my bedroom to sleep and i'm going to my kitchen to eat i'm going to my bathroom to shower
so that's a good point yeah look i still like the idea that shia labeouf is trapped in this
loop of like doing weird art
things in the hope that he gains some legitimacy from it like he's just spiraling and hope that
somebody's like you are a real artist exactly yeah you're validated in your choice just to
steal somebody else's work and make a short movie about it yeah what a dickhead all right that's the
show anyway on that note yeah what a dickhead and that's the end of
the show that is the end of the show yeah all right uh where can they find us on the internet
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That's correct.
Thank you for the Bruton and Baskless
for the theme songs.
And Rackham.
Rackham, yeah.
Thank you to everyone
who subscribes on Patreon.
Yes.
Patreon.com slash MrSundayMovies.
There's one in particular
we need to shout out.
Shout out a couple,
the whole bunch of people
up the top there.
Good, absolutely.
Michael,
he's donated $82 a month
for like ages.
We put up a joke.
It's a joke one. We say like, hey, why don't you donate a dollar or two dollars or something like that a month for like ages. We put up a joke. It's a joke one.
We say like, hey, why don't you donate a dollar or two dollars
or something like that a month?
You know, whatever you feel, whatever would fall out of your pocket,
you wouldn't notice.
Maybe you donate that amount of money just to keep the show running,
keep the lights on, et cetera.
And right at the bottom, we put a joke on.
It's like, donate $82.
Click the button a million times.
We want millions of dollars or whatever.
Somebody did it.
Michael has actually done that.
Yeah.
Consistently donated $82, which is amazing.
We suspect he's forgotten.
We suspect maybe he's forgotten.
Which is why we're also bringing it up.
Yeah, we're like, oh, what if he listens to this
and he's like, oh my God, I've been doing that for months.
No wonder I'm poor.
Yeah.
We've also got some other big donations.
Kieran has donated a shitload of money as well.
Rourke, Sean.
I don't want to say your last names in case, you know.
In case people realize you're rich and come to your house and kill you.
Webb, Christopher, Eric, Jonathan.
I mean, that could be anybody, couldn't it?
Sure, yeah.
I just pay edited, but no.
But you guys know who you are.
Yeah, thank you.
Unless once again you've forgotten that you do that.
No, we genuinely appreciate it.
It helps us keep the lights on because, you know,
a lot of our money does come from this because YouTube's a bloody crap shoot,
mate.
Well, for me it is anyway.
Yeah.
You don't have a YouTube channel.
Do you, Mason?
Has anyone asked you?
Yeah, but I don't have a YouTube channel.
Think about it.
What do you do?
You could be a sweet, you could,
you could increase your internet celebrity profile.
Oh, that's so true.
Yeah.
You didn't even think about that.
All right.
Next week.
I was thinking.
Yes.
Okay. We've got some options.
Okay.
Let's talk about them now and waste everybody's time.
Great.
Batman and Superman is coming out in about a month.
Yep.
I reckon we should do a Superman episode on Superman movies and a Batman episode on Batman
movies, but either only the Burton ones or only the Dark Knight ones.
Okay.
And the Superman ones, all the Superman movies are set in the same universe, except for the
Man of Steel one.
Right.
Right? Uh-huh. We the Man of Steel one. Right.
We could do one of those.
Yes.
We could also do R-rated comic book characters,
or movies we'd like to see as R-rated comic books.
Oh, that could work too. But like good versions.
Yeah, okay.
Do you want to do that one next week?
Yeah, let's do that one, yeah.
All right, so if people want to tweet us at Weekly Planet Pod
if they've got some suggestions, we may just talk about them.
Love it.
We might not.
We might just do a different thing next week.
Yeah.
Because that often happens also, doesn't it?
Yes.
Yeah, pretty good.
All right, that's the show.
That's the show.
Grab Dab Jam, everybody.
We'll see you next week.
Both hands.
Bloody do it.
Bye.
You're going to say bye last.
Bye-bye.
It's back.
It's back.