The Weekly Planet - 13 Best And Worst Comic Book Movie Casting
Episode Date: December 23, 2013This week we take a look at the great and not so great casting choices in CBM's as well as Paul Rudd as Ant-Man, Jaoquin Pheonix as Lex Luthor, The Avengers: Age Of Ultron, X-Men, Dawn Of The Planet O...f The Apes plus more!Thanks for supporting the show! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome everyone to episode 13 of the Weekly Planet, The Weekly Planet You may know me as Mr. Sunday. Joining me as always is my co-host, Nick Chip Danger Cock Mason.
Not my real nickname.
Hello.
Hello, James.
Nice to be here.
Hello, listeners.
Wow.
What a week it's been.
You know what?
It's our very special Christmas episode.
Is it?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Should we do anything?
I do love...
Do you love Christmas?
No.
I don't love Christmas either, but I do love very special Christmas episodes of things.
Like, the more incongruous the better
like I like it when it'll be like
CSI Miami or something like that
something where there's like horrific murders
and awful
but there's also the magic of Christmas
like you know
a dozen more
Santas will be murdered or whatever
and they'll be laid out on slabs or whatever.
And they'll have to solve, find the killer or whatever.
But at the end of the episode, it all loops around.
And one of the characters is like,
but wait a second.
If that Santa was locked up all night in the jail,
who ate the milk and cookies off the shelf?
And then they run to the window or whatever.
And you just hear, ho, ho, ho,
and like sleigh bells jingling.
And the implication is in this world of horrific murder
that Santa is real.
I enjoy that.
So anyway, hopefully.
So Merry Christmas.
We'll have some Christmas magic in this, I think.
Look, I don't hate Christmas, to be fair.
I don't like a lot of the build-up.
And that thing you just said there is amazing.
It is, isn't it?
But yeah.
Who wants to hang out with people
Ugh
Gross
I'd rather be in this weird
Completely empty room
Nothing on the walls
No
No natural light
It's great
Stay in here
Yeah
There's been a lot of
A lot of stories this week
Comic book and movie related
New trailers
Shenanigans
Afoot
Uh huh
You
Shia LaBeouf.
We've got to talk about that, right?
Absolutely we do.
What?
What a silly Billy.
What a bit of a goose, mate.
So it started basically, he made the short film, which I cannot remember the name of.
Doesn't matter.
Which I had not seen because it got taken down.
It did.
It was up and then it became Password Protected and then it disappeared.
Yeah.
And he played at a few film festivals last year and it played taken down. It did. It was up and then it became password protected and then it disappeared. And he played at a few film festivals last year
and it played super well.
People were like,
Because it was really well written.
You know, this kid's a genius,
bloody blah.
Within hours of it going online, though,
the comparison was drawn between that
and what was the comic book called?
I can't remember off the top of my head.
Should have written it down.
This is why I write everything down. But anyway, it's a Daniel Klaus comic book called? I can't remember off the top of my head. Should have written it down. This is why I write everything down.
But anyway, it's a Daniel Klaus comic book.
Yeah, that's the one.
Who is probably best known to mainstream audiences
as the guy who wrote Ghost World,
which became the film with Scarlett Johansson.
Yeah, yeah.
So, great writer.
And why wouldn't you steal his work verbatim for a film
and not attribute it?
What kind of apology is that though as well
first of all
the apology was plagiarised
yeah that's
I know right
which is baffling
baffling
but like
I've got a little bit
of it here
and it's things like
trying to
there's so many
that's the problem
so many
it was like
I owe it to future generations
uh huh
you know
to explain my actions
like
what has that even got to do with anything?
Like, just admit fault, shut up, credit him,
I don't know, take it down, give him some money, do whatever.
Don't plagiarise a number of different people.
Just shut your mouth, delete your...
Yeah, like, apparently there's a...
He plagiarised the apology of Shepard Fairey
who made that Obama Hope poster
and he copied the initial image to Photoshop over the top
and he apologised and Shia LaBeouf's taken that one.
There's like a Mark Zuckerberg apology that he...
What? It's bizarre.
He also took one from a random post on the internet,
the one that's copyright isn't particularly creative work, being inspired by someone else's work to produce something new and different is creative work, which he stole.
Also, that's bullshit, that quote.
You've just stolen something and pretty much done it word for word.
That's not creative in any sense.
It's the opposite of that.
Yes.
And there's even this incredible plagiarism.
It sounds like he's got a problem.
Sorry, Justin, Mike, go on.
Like, as opposed to, like, he did this because he wanted to make money or anything like that.
Like, you might actually have some sort of issue.
Yeah, no kidding.
Like, there's even, there's one here where, if you go to his website, which is called Campaign Book,
the About page has been copied verbatim from another website called Picturebox.
Why is Picturebox?
Because I love the things I love and I want to champion them.
I tend towards outliers and I'm obsessed with the history of visual culture writ large and small.
He's shyer.
Why the Campaign Book?
Because I love the things I love and I want to champion them.
I tend towards outliers and I'm obsessed
with the history of visual culture written large and small.
Etc. It's a long
paragraph and it's verbatim. It's bizarre.
Anyway.
There's something going on there.
Do you think it's some kind of weird star thing
where you think you're untouchable or is he just
crazy? I mean, it might be a coincidence.
It could be a massive coincidence.
Yeah, I mean, an infinite number of monkeys and an infinite number of typewriters might
eventually write the complete works of Shakespeare.
Potentially, that's the thing here.
I mean, he's rich.
He probably has a lot of monkeys.
I'm sure he does, yes.
Hey, let's talk about monkeys.
Perfect segue.
Good job.
Think about it.
Dawn of the Planet of the Apes has a trailer.
I wanted to yell about Charlotte Booth a bit more.
Okay, no, no, go for it.
No, it wants to be said, though, really.
What a dickhead.
Yeah, I know.
I hope he gets less work than ever.
Well, I mean, that's sort of...
That's...
He was Hollywood's it guy for a while.
Which always baffled me.
It's baffling, but I think the idea is that
certain people get hired for work, for a role,
and then all the other film production houses go, this guy is something.
Yeah.
These people have taken a chance.
He must be the next deep guy.
We should all give him a role now.
Yeah.
So when he hits big, you know, we've got him on the...
And if he's doing three or four movies a year over three years, that's a lot of...
But then, of course, that sort of rolls around and people go,
actually, he's not that charismatic or interesting.
And then it sort of dried up.
I call it Sam Worthington syndrome.
I was going to say, that's very Sam Worthington, isn't it?
He was in everything.
Yeah.
But Rise of the Planet... Sorry, not Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Dawn of the Planet
of the Apes got a teaser sequel, teaser trailer this week.
Yep.
Well, it got a teaser for the teaser and then it got the teaser trailer.
Great.
It's a sequel to Rise of the Planet of the Apes, which is a prequel slash reboot to the
hilarious Charlton Heston Planet of the Apes, which is hilarious.
That movie is so unintentionally funny.
Correct.
Really good.
Did you enjoy the first one, Rot Pota, I believe the acronym is?
I haven't seen Rot Pota.
Really?
I haven't seen it.
It's pretty good.
Yep.
It's, you know, solid cast, but not really that inspired.
It's a solid cast, but not really that inspired.
James Franco's kind of dead-eyed.
Really kind of strangely monotone performance, I guess.
Yeah, it's one of his art performances.
I think it may have been one of the ones where he has gone into a mainstream film as an artistic goof.
You know what he's like. Yeah, he would do that.
Yeah, I think that's probably...
But yeah, I haven't seen it, but he doesn't appear to be in this
one. No, well, I think... Replace with Gary Oldman.
Replace with... Really? Oh, no, there is
Gary Oldman. There's another lead guy.
Gary Oldman, I think, is like the leader of a
human resistance or some kind of human leader.
I think it's said in the synopsis that
James Franco, the reason he's not in it,
is because he's dead. He actually supposedly died
between the movies. I'm assuming he flew his
weird snowboard glider
into the side of a building.
He did, yeah.
No, it doesn't say why he's dead.
I think it was the virus got him
that got unleashed at the end of the first one.
Oh.
Because the human population is decimated.
They've been fighting the virus for four years,
fighting each other for four years.
There's an uneasy truce between the humans and the apes.
Uh-huh.
And that truce is about to be broken.
Ooh.
So, yeah, I'm really
excited for it, for a reboot
to a series
that got a reboot in 2001
with Tim Burton
that's true, yeah, take three
this is, the apes in that
they look incredible, there are some bits where
they're jumping around, they look a little
fake, but the facial expressions
and a lot of like
Caesar in particular
Would you say they're better
or worse than
the monkeys in
Indiana Jones 4?
Starring Shia LaBeouf
we did it again
we segwayed again
it's like an episode
of Seinfeld in here
everything's coming together
great
they are
they're about the same
no they're infinitely better
all the guys who did
that weather did it
you know did Avatar
Gollum
all that kind of stuff
all the good stuff
all the stuff
that kids love
so yeah
I think it's going
to be great
then again
maybe it won't be
who knows
it's got
what's his name
I think his name
is Jason Clark
I might have
got that wrong
he's from
Zero Dark Thirty
he's a big
well not upcoming
he's been around
for a while
he's like 44
but he's like
he's apparently
I think we talked
about this last week
John Connor
he's up for John Connor Planet of the Apes he's in there he's apparently, I think we talked about this last week, John Connor. Yep. He's up for John Connor.
Planet of the Apes he's in.
There's a bunch of other stuff that he's the it guy.
He's the it guy.
He's the Shia LaBeouf slash Sam Worthington of 2013 slash 14.
Yeah, but I think infinitely better.
And he's not a traditionally handsome man either.
He kind of looks like a regular guy, which I like also.
Huh.
There you go.
Maybe I just like regular guys because I'm also a man of the people.
I'd like to talk about Expendables 3. Okay, let's do that. Now, the teaser for Expendables
3, which we just watched. It was a bit, it looked like a P. Diddy video clip. There was a kind of a lot of, or like a America's Got Talent kind of like a promo thing,
where they're all sort of walking in silhouette with some spotlights behind them.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know, man.
Do you think they got them all in the room for that?
I doubt it.
Getting them all together at the same time.
They look a bit composited.
Yeah.
I'm looking at this still right here.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, I think you're probably right. I mean, it's pretty good. I mean, not good, but like it looks like they could have been in the same time. They look a bit composited. Yeah. Looking at this still right here. Yeah. Yeah, no, I think you're probably right.
I mean, it's pretty good.
I mean, not good, but it looks like they could have been in the same room.
Having not seen the first two, and that may surprise you...
This may surprise you?
I haven't seen them either.
Okay, well, I was going to ask you, but I guess we don't know.
Is there any moments where they're all on screen together?
You know what?
Who cares?
Who cares?
That's actually a really good point.
Okay, but let's talk about this cast. Sure. Some surprises. You know what, though?? Who cares? That's actually a really good point. Okay, but let's talk about this cast.
Sure.
Some surprises.
You know what, though?
I just want to say, they've got the Bridge Over the River Choir theme tune playing.
Yep.
Yep.
I didn't do that very well.
Uh-huh.
Which, not that I took offense to that, but I just went, ugh.
Because I love the Bridge Over the River Choir.
Uh-huh.
That's a fucking amazing movie.
Yeah. It's got Alec Guinness from the 60s.
It's not exactly historically accurate in any sense
because at the end they blow up a bridge
and in real life that bridge was never blown up.
That's fine.
That movie's amazing.
And I just went, ugh.
Don't use that.
It'd be like somebody using the Great Escape theme.
But also, that is also...
Hitler has only got one ball.
It's that. it has been used
yeah
it has been around
for longer than that
so are they going to
fight Hitler in this
I hope so
yeah I think they're
probably going to
fight Hitler
I can't remember
who the villain is
one of Hitler's
kids or something
great
Darren Hitler
Darren Hitler
yeah
yeah
but yeah
it's
I just find that
disgusting
because I think
the Expendables movies
are bullshit
quite frankly
not having seen them I fell asleep during the first one. But yeah, do you want
to talk about the cast? You've got the picture there.
Well, I've got the picture here. I mean, from what I can tell, there's a couple of changes
from the previous one. Antonio Banderas is in this one.
Yeah, I like him.
As some sort of swashbuckler, presumably.
Swashbuckler.
A swashbuckler, yes. This says grammar, so I'm going to assume Kelsey Grammar.
It is Kelsey Grammar.
It actually is Kelsey Grammar. I love Kelsey Grammar. It actually is Kelsey Grammar.
I love Kelsey Grammar.
Wait a second, is he in this?
I don't think he's in the picture.
No.
But I know for a fact he is in that.
The big names are really, though, well, big names.
Wesley Snipes.
Wesley Snipes, out of prison.
Out of prison.
Maybe he's on work release, I don't know.
Pay your taxes, everyone.
Pay your goddamn taxes.
Mel Gibson.
Racist Mel Gibson.
America's own Mel Gibson.
You sure?
Yeah?
We don't want him.
Nope.
Getting his third or fourth chance there.
And of course, probably the biggest name.
Grumpy old Harrison Ford.
Grumpy old Gramps.
There he is.
Now, the second Expendables movie, which I haven't seen, but I've seen clips of it,
a lot of it is them,
like Bruce Willis is in it, who didn't come back for this
one because he demanded more money, and
Sylvester Stallone threw a fucking
shit fit, and
read on this Twitter tirade
about how Bruce Willis is
selfish and blah blah blah.
It's hard to do a Twitter tirade, you don't have a lot of characters.
No, and even though he's a writer, he's not the brightest man, selfish and blah blah blah. It's hard to do a Twitter tie, right? You don't have a lot of characters. No. It takes a long time.
Even though he's a writer, he's not the brightest man.
Right. And he seems like a big dickhead.
I'm sure he's fine.
Yeah. But um,
yeah, apparently though it's just a series of catchphrases.
So like I know somebody
says,
who's the big, Terry Crews says to Schwarzenegger
at one point, give me my gun back or you're
terminated.
Right.
And Alan Schwarzenegger at one point says, I'm back.
So they just switch catchphrases.
Pretty much.
Fantastic.
But I made a bet on my most recent video, because Harrison Ford's wearing a flight suit
in it.
Yep.
And if he doesn't say, get off my plane, I'm going to film myself, put a gun in my mouth,
and blow the top of my head off. He might say, get off my plane. I'm going to film myself, put a gun in my mouth and blow the top of my head off.
He might say get off my plane. If I'm wrong.
He might say that he can do the Kessel Run
in 12 parsecs. He might say that.
What's another thing?
I'm Amish. You know what? Stallone might say
I love you, Harrison Ford
and Harrison Ford will be like, I know.
It's just, I don't know.
The whole thing smacks of desperation.
And I know that, again...
Like retirement funds.
Like retirement funds.
I know they're not for me or for you.
Even though we like action movies,
I think we like things that are generally a little bit smarter, I guess.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, you know, I don't know, man.
I think I'll see it because I'm doing more videos and stuff
and doing this podcast
I'll probably see this one
you're going to force
yourself into a break
yeah I'm going to
have to see it
well that's a
re-endorsement
20th Century Fox
just put that on the poster
I suppose I'll have
to see it
because I'm doing
more videos
on the internet
yeah so there you go
we got one more trailer?
yeah we do we just watched this one
I wasn't going to talk about it
but it's pretty interesting
transcendence
transcendence
Wally Pfister
yeah
Pfister
Pfister
yeah
sure
he was
he was of course
Pfister
Pfister
I'm going to go with
Pfister
that's good I like that yeah it's going to go with Frista. That's good.
I like that.
Yeah, it's good.
It rhymes with Barista.
Ooh, Mediterranean.
Sure is.
Wally...
Frista.
Yeah, who's the cinematographer for a lot of Christopher Nolan's work, Dark Knight movies,
Inception, probably a bunch of other stuff.
Well, it certainly looks great.
Sure does.
Johnny Depp.
Yeah.
It's interesting to see him in non-Captain Jack Sparrow.
Like regular clothing and doesn't look like Mick Jagger's...
Keith Urban.
Keith Urban.
Keith Richardson, yeah.
So it's his first movie, not Johnny Depp.
He's done a couple.
He's done one or two.
But it's Wally Fifth's first directorial debut.
I love stories about where the human mind...
You need to stop there.
I love stories.
You know, just a man at a hearth of a fire,
just talking about life, you know?
Yeah.
But I like stories about...
Sam's worked the shoeshine booth
at the Grand Central Station for 45 years.
He's got a lot of stories
no okay
I'm sorry
that's fine
okay
I was going to
say I like stories
where people get
their mind
uploaded into a
computer
or it's about
singularity
where it gets
to the point
where technology
is artificial
intelligence
is smarter than
humans
and the implications
of that
but I love all
that kind of stuff
and so I'm
excited that this isn't going to be kind of like a lawnmower man movie.
I was just going to say it could be a bit of a lawnmower man movie.
It seems like a proper, smart, intelligent kind of trailer.
Can I say though, in this trailer, I get the sense.
You know how every once in a while you watch a trailer and then later you realise that
they've put the very last scene or the very last play of the film in the trailer.
They might have done this here
because right at the end of the trailer...
This film also has a lot of Iron Man 3...
Cast.
Yeah, it does.
The woman, Maya Hansen, from Iron Man 3.
Paul Bettany, voice of Jarvis.
Paul Bettany.
How did that happen?
Anyway, but there's a moment in it
where Maya Hansen
what's her actual name
doesn't matter
I can't remember
she says
Rebecca Wall
yes there we go
I was going to say
Rebecca Black
I nearly did
different thing
different genre
sorry go on
we're not cutting edge
music reviewers
we're cutting edge
movie reviewers
that's what we do here
but anyway
she says
where are you going to go
and he says
everywhere
and then you see
this sort of black dust floating off.
I feel that might be he's got some sort of nanotechnology
and he's going off to explore the solar system.
I think that might be the last thing in the film.
And they've given it away.
Also, I've got the script here and I've just read it off there.
So, spoiler alert, everybody.
How do you like that?
No, I don't know.
But I think that's how it's going to end.
That plays out. Yeah, because it does in that way, doesn't it? That's spoiled. No, I don't. I don't know. But I think that's how it's going to end. Mate, that plays out.
Yeah, because it is.
Yeah, it does in that way, doesn't it?
There's a whole lot of black dust, and then it goes vroom, and it stops real suddenly.
Yeah, yeah.
The vroom is the newest thing, I think, in trailers.
I think there was some in Gravity, a bit of vroom.
Yeah, there was a bit of vroom.
Yeah.
I'm really looking forward to that, though.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
We've got more news?
Do we have more news?
Oh, I've got a stack of news.
Yeah, let's talk about news.
I've got a stack of news, mate.
Okay, I'm ready.
The Avengers Age of Ultron.
Yep.
There's been a casting call for someone to fill the role of like a 40-year-old slash
50-year-old kind of imposing man.
And I think it's for Baron Von Strucker, you know, the Hydra agent.
I'm not sure.
Okay.
So, apparently, well, this is the rumorour, according to Latino Review, who people say,
we never get anything right.
Are you allowed to go to that website?
Yeah.
You're not Latino.
Oh, I thought you meant because of the coming from movie thing.
Yeah.
I'm a little bit Latino.
I'm not Latino.
Not at all.
Look how wide I am.
You're so wide.
You can see through me.
I can see.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Yeah, and he's
Baron Von Strucker
it might be
they say
at the start of the movie
where the Avengers
kind of deal with him
and that's like
the first little
kind of introduction
to the movie
so they got
you know
a classic-ish
kind of Marvel villain
then you lead up to Ultron
so fight a Nazi
fight a robot
that's what I say
absolutely
that is a formula
for success
I'm glad they finally
pinned it down.
Fight a Nazi, fight a robot.
Doug Ray Scott, the name was floated around.
You familiar with him?
He was going to be Wolverine at one point, right?
He was going to be Wolverine.
Is he small and scrappy?
I don't know.
Wish we knew anything about any actors from Hollywood.
I know, right?
It would be nice.
So handy for this.
Yeah, it would be great.
But no bother.
What made me sad about Doug Ray Scott,
he was going to be
one of the next
big things
and he pulled out
of X-Men
for whatever reason
Hugh Jackman
ended up getting the role
then he appeared
in Mission Impossible
before that he appeared
in Mission Impossible 2
which is easily
the worst
Mission Impossible movie
he's got a denim
three piece suit
on in that film
how did that happen
it's not the 70s mate
it's Australia though yeah okay good point and that's how did that happen it's not the 70s mate it's Australia
though
yeah okay
good point
and that's how
people perceive
this country
god that was
absolutely the
worst
that was
John Woo
bullshit
that was the
ultimate
because John Woo's
films up until
that point had
all been great
and yeah okay
good pretty good
yeah well
he's foreign
films anyway
yeah but
that's at that
point where they
were like,
okay, John, every element of what you do,
we've put them on a whiteboard.
Do them in every scene.
Dubs.
Slow motion, spinning around on motorcycles.
Everybody's got a gun in each hand.
At one point, there was like four people on screen
and there were 22 guns.
Too many guns.
That movie, I
remember watching
it at the time.
Tom Cruise, amazing
hair in that movie.
Oh, so good.
That was his best
hair.
That was his best
hair.
He brought that
hair back from
Mission Impossible
3, I think.
Yeah.
Or was it 4?
Might have been
4.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that's not a
good movie.
Anyway, what was
I saying?
I can't remember.
Dude Ray Scott.
Yeah, he was
next week then.
Sam Worthington
slash Shia LaBeouf.
And then he turned up in
Desperate Housewives
so I'm like
oh that's
that's unfortunate
that's embarrassing
for him
and for you
because you watch
Desperate Housewives
is that show still going
I think it's cancelled
I don't know
you know
it is
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So, there's a bit of
X-Men Days of Future Past news.
Brian Singer has come out and said there was a sequence in the movie
that has Rogue, Iceman, Professor X and Magneto
rescue somebody or something,
and that entire sequence has been cut,
hence meaning Rogue is not in that movie at all.
Anna Paquin, who was the next big Shia LaBeouf at one point.
Yep, Miss Shia LaBeouf, they called her. She got the Miss Shia LaBeouf at one point. Yep. Miss Shia LaBeouf, they called her.
She got the Miss Shia LaBeouf award for the piano.
Yeah, so she's not in it anymore.
And she's in the trailer, briefly.
Iceman is not in it?
He's cut as well?
Well, apparently she's the only one who's completely cut.
That's a shame.
Yeah, so she must have only been in that particular sequence.
But she was at the Comic Con panel.
Yep.
I'd say she's a pretty well-known member of the team at this point.
Yeah, huh.
But is it a big loss?
Ah.
And it is also a reminder to you...
Thank you.
...that it's 30% future, 70% past.
70% past, yeah.
Okay.
I would have liked to see more Rogue.
Yeah.
Because at the end of X-Men 3, she's lost her powers.
Yeah.
Does she get them back or not?
I guess the answer is yes.
But I don't know, that character had sort of an arc,
where we meet her and then she finally finds her place in the X-Men family,
and then she loses her powers.
Will she stay in the family?
Will she leave with the blah, blah, blah?
Doesn't matter.
She's out.
She's out, mate.
The only thing I didn't really like about that character was,
in the comics, when she takes a power, doesn't she keep it a lot of the time?
Well, no, basically she...
Well, she can replicate it, or...?
No, no, she keeps the powers for a period of time,
sort of depending on how long she touches someone.
But she, at some point, you know, many, many years ago,
sort of got Ms. Marvel in a death grip for a really long time.
And she went into a coma, like a really long-term coma.
And as a result, Rogue permanently gained her powers, which is like strength, flight, invulnerability.
Cool.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so there you go.
So she's got those.
Are you saying she should have those in the film?
I'm saying that I don't know that much about X-Men.
There you go.
Yeah.
Yeah, sure, why not?
Because really,
it's just her running up
and grabbing people.
Yep.
Because she could be shot.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, she didn't really
use those powers.
She didn't in the first one
because that was really
the big plot point
of that movie.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
But she's never really
used them extensively
in an offensive capability.
No.
So, yeah.
It'd be nice to see that work.
Because I don't think...
Yeah, because she's not
in the final battle
is she
of X-Men 3
doesn't she leave
she does leave
you're right
yeah yeah yeah
and they get Kitty Pryde in
yep
one of the most excellent
casting decisions
in that movie
which is not a good movie
Kitty Pryde
great choice
Alan Page
Kelsey Grammer is beast
also
amazing choice
Kelsey Grammer's an amazing choice
for anything
yes isn't he
what a fucking legend
ok so
another piece of news
ah
casting rumour
ooh
Joaquin Phoenix
yep
the poor man's
but alive
river phoenix
aww
cut that out
no he's amazing
he's really good
yeah leave it in though
he's in this movie
Her
which is out at the moment
about an AI
that he falls in love with
you know I love an AI yeah you. I don't love the movie AI though.
Do you love Bicentennial Man? Yeah, a little bit. Okay, great. Even though I know it's
bad, I still kind of like it. It's rumoured that he's wanted by Warner Brothers for the
role of Lex Luthor in Batman versus Superman. Thumbs down. Really?
Big potato head.
Doesn't work.
Have you seen him with a shaven head?
No.
Have you seen him in a suit?
No, only Johnny Cash suit.
Oh, yeah. Not the same.
Western suit.
Do you remember that year where he lost his mind, pretended to, for a movie that nobody
saw?
Yeah, I do remember that.
That was great.
He grew the big beard
and he just went on Tonight Shows
and just took a dump on the host desk
or whatever he did.
And then, yeah, nobody...
I can't even remember the name of that film.
I'm Still Here?
I'm Not There?
I'm Not There was the...
Both of us are here.
Yeah, no, but I'm Not There
was the Bob Dylan biopic
With Cate Blanchett
And etc etc
And I'm still here
Is a John Resnick song
Lead singer of the Goo Goo Dolls
For the movie
Treasure Planet
Which is an amazing movie
Why do you have that fact
And no other facts
That is amazing
I stayed up all night
Memorising that fact
Great
Oh for Christmas
Yeah For the Christmas episode I understand sure That's it ladies and gentlemen That's what we did I stayed up all night memorising that fact. Great. Oh, for Christmas.
Yeah.
The Christmas episode, I understand, sure.
That's it, ladies and gentlemen.
That's what we did for the Christmas episode.
Treasure Planet slash Goo Goo Dolls fact.
I think it's a good sign.
That was great.
That's an underrated Disney movie as well, by the way.
That's a good movie. Should I watch it tomorrow or no?
No.
Yeah, don't.
So you really...
I thought it was great.
And you know why I thought it was great?
Because I didn't think of it for one, and I like being surprised.
I don't think of a lot of things, sure.
But when I heard it, I went, it's a little bit inspired in the sense that they didn't
just go, who's a bald guy?
That's true, yeah.
They thought outside the box.
Who's menacing?
Who's got a lot of screen presence?
Who's, you know, a little bit hot? What they probably did, though, is they probably, there's menacing, who's got a lot of screen presence, who's a little bit hot.
What they probably did though, is they probably, there's like an iPhone app where you take a photo of somebody
and then it shows you what they look like bald.
And they probably got like a Musk Weekly magazine or whatever and took a photo of Joaquin Phoenix
and they're like, oh, pretty good.
Pretty good.
Yeah, but you're against it because of his potato head.
I think he's menacing enough. He's played a villain before. He is menacing, you're right. You're right, he's got evil head. I think he's menacing enough.
He's played a villain before.
He is menacing.
You're right.
He's got evil eyes.
He's got evil eyebrows as well.
Okay, you've turned me around.
Good.
Is that all?
Yeah.
I don't know what else to say.
I think it's cool.
Okay, good.
Okay.
Of course, that has to be taken with a grain of salt because there's other names that have
been rumoured.
Mark Strong because he's bald.
Yep.
Brian Cranston because he can be bald. Yep. Bryan Cranston. Bald. Because he can be bald.
Yep.
And as recently as last week, they were talking Idris Elba and Denzel Washington.
So who knows?
As a team.
As a team.
Hey, we're Lex Luthor.
We're the black Lex Luthor twins.
Parallel universes?
I don't know.
We don't look the same, but it's fine.
Racist people can't tell.
Hee hee.
Oh, racism.
Okay.
In another piece of casting news. That would be better if it was Idris Elba. can't tell. Oh, racism. Okay, um,
in another piece of casting news.
That'd be, if it was Idris Elba,
that'd be two kind of,
that'd be twice that he's gotten people up in arms for being
Yeah. For being just a
black guy who gets a job in Hollywood.
I know, right? Like, we're so mad
that he, oh no. We're so mad
that a fictional character isn't how I imagined that fictional character to be.
Don't you reckon, though, he'd be a killer Lex Luthor?
He'd be really good, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And if we said that he wouldn't be, that would mean we're racist.
Yeah.
Dodge that bullet.
Okay, another piece of casting news.
A true piece locked in fact.
Marvel have confirmed Paul Rudd is Ant-Man.
That's great.
I enjoy that a lot.
You cool with that? Yes. I suppose it depends which Ant-Man it is. great. I enjoy that a lot. You're cool with that?
Yes.
I suppose it depends which Ant-Man it is.
He's not going to be Hank Pym, is he?
They haven't announced that yet.
Because there's...
There's Scott Lang, Hank Pym, and...
And Eric O'Grady, who's the arsehole one.
Yeah, that's right.
Didn't he beat women or something?
Is that what...
No, no, no.
Hank Pym beat up his wife once.
Okay.
I mean, a couple of times.
Why?
Because he's got problems.
Don't we all?
Yeah, but anyway,
they're probably not going to use that.
Maybe they will, I don't know.
Anyway, we're against that.
Eric O'Grady is the most recent one.
He had his own series for about 12 issues
called Irredeemable Ant-Man
and he was like
a S.H.I.E.L.D.
agent like a
low ranking one
who found
the Ant-Man
like an Ant-Man
armour in
S.H.I.E.L.D.
headquarters
and just used
it to like
perv on women
and like steal
stuff
as we all would
yeah absolutely
yeah and it's
sort of this
his journey
into becoming
sort of kind
of a hero
which I think
that would work
that would work
with Paul Rudd
it's probably going to be Scott Lang because if Hank who's creating Ultron in Age of Ultron they say journey into becoming sort of kind of a hero. Okay. Which I think that would work with Paul Ryan. Yeah.
It's probably going to
be Scott Lang.
Because if Hank,
who's creating Ultron
in Age of Ultron?
They say Tony Stark.
Ah, then it could be
Hank Pym.
Yeah.
Okay.
I prefer Hank Pym I
think.
Just go with the
original.
Yeah.
But you know.
Also Pym's fun to say.
Pym, Pym Particles.
I know the Pym
Particles have
escaped.
Quickly retrieve the
Pym Particles. It's so vague. I love Pym Particles have escaped. Quickly retrieve the Pym Particles. It's so vague.
I love Pym Particles because they're so vague.
You'll feel the bite of power.
Yeah, yeah. How does he... Does he rub them under his... Does he rub them on his neck?
Does he spray them in front of him and then leap through like he's putting on cologne?
I don't know. He probably... I think it's one of those ones where they just keep it in their belt buckle.
Yeah.
And he's like, I've gotta be Ant-Man. I'll just just keep it in their belt buckle. It's like, I've got to be Ant-Man.
I'll just push the release in my belt buckle.
And then...
Yeah, then...
Pimple articles.
I'm shrieking.
You know what I hope they utilise as well?
And it's Edgar Wright, so it probably will.
I hope they go the other way where they show that he can be giant.
Yeah.
That would be cool.
Because I think a lot of people aren't aware that he could do that also.
But, you know.
We'll see.
We will see.
Now, he apparently,
there was a few other people
in contention, rumoured.
One of them, Simon Pegg,
that was more of a rumour.
Because there was that picture
where he's pointing to,
there's a picture that
he took at Marvel headquarters
who was visiting Edgar Wright
and he's pointing to a picture
of Ant-Man.
And everyone, including me,
was convinced that he was Ant-Man or involved of Ant-Man and everyone including me was convinced
that he was Ant-Man
or involved in Ant-Man
he still might be
maybe he'll be Hank Pym
maybe
or maybe he'll be
Doug Ray Scott
or maybe he'll be
Idris Elba
and the other one
was Joseph Gordon-Levitt
which I could see also
yeah that works
but I'm kind of glad
they went with Paul Rudd
you know what's weird though
they're going with
a lot of older actors
Paul Rudd's 44
looks amazing so a lot of the Avengers cast they're going with a lot of older actors Paul Rudd's 44 looks amazing
so a lot of the Avengers cast
they're like
mid 40s
a lot of them
yeah
I'm cool with that
yeah
these young kids
these kids
can't be responsible for
superpowers
I think the youngest
must be Chris Hemsworth
who's technically
the oldest in the Avengers
yeah
cool
cool
any more news
that's a lot of casting news That's a lot of casting news.
That's a lot of casting news.
Should we talk about casting?
I'll tell you what.
Yes.
I was thinking that.
Yep.
Comic book movies
have a long history of casting.
Are you familiar with that?
Casting like actors?
Yes.
To like play characters
in the films?
Yes.
Yes.
Huh.
Good fact to have.
I wanted to ask you
because I think you mentioned
this a couple of weeks ago.
Who do you think is the definitive perfect choice for a person role in a comic book movie?
It's J.K. Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson.
That's the best.
It is the best one.
You'll see a comic book character and you're like, I wonder who would be great for that,
and you see him on screen, and you're like, yeah, that's pretty accurate.
Dead on.
No matter what you think of J. Jonah Jameson, he's bloody nailed that.
He's nailed that role.
I mentioned the last time we talked about this,
I want to see a J. Jonah Jameson film.
It's two hours.
It's just a shot of him sitting at his desk,
and he's just yelling at people that come in.
And maybe there's, like, explosions behind him, like, out the window.
Maybe Spider-Man's fighting Doctor Octopus
or Hobgoblin
or something like that.
It doesn't matter.
It's never referred to.
It's just him yelling
at people
and maybe
knocking his phone
off the computer
off his desk
because he doesn't
understand it.
That'd be great.
Yelling at his wife
out of the phone.
Do you care whether
it's set in the
Tobey Maguire universe
or the current universe?
Ah, no.
It could even be set in the real world it's just
just not a lot it's just yelling it's fine i would i would see that forever so that's the
greatest casting ever yeah but at the same time in those movies i think toby mcguire terrible
choice for spider-man i i know you're not alone in thinking that. Is it his mopiness? It's mopiness.
He's kind of like, he's got
a chubby boy face.
But he doesn't strike...
He never at any point strikes me as a
high school student. No. Just a chubby
boy-faced man
who's in a high school for some
reason. Even though Andrew Garfield
was older than
Tobey Maguire when he was
in his version. Maybe it's the hair. It might be the hair.
He's got great hair in that.
He does have great hair. He's still, Andrew Garfield
definitely looks younger. But he's only a student
in that very briefly. Or a high school
student anyway. But yeah, it was
a, I wouldn't say it would put it down
so much to his performance as in some of the
writing for that character. He's not very fun.
No, he's really not fun, yeah. Credit, or do credit for him for working out like of the writing for that character. He's not very fun. No, he's really not fun. He has a lot to deal with it.
Uh-huh.
All due credit for him
for working out
like a mad dog
for that movie.
Like a mad dog.
Yeah.
Because he looked amazing.
Medicine balls.
Yeah.
Yeah, medicine balls.
Yeah.
Well, that was like
Leonardo DiCaprio
apparently wanted the role
and a bunch of other people.
No, not Leonardo DiCaprio.
Not high school level.
No, that would... I'd watch one scene Not high school. No, I'd watch one
scene of that.
I'd watch the
Saturday Night Live
sketch of that
where Leonardo
DiCaprio is the
guest host.
DiCaprio.
DiCaprio.
Sorry.
Fishman.
You know, where
he's pretending to
be Spider-Man and
he's way too old
for the role.
That would be
great.
But I would not
watch him in that
film.
I could tell you the
exact point where
Leonardo DiCaprio
stopped playing
someone of school
age.
Titanic?
No.
The one where he
was running away
from Tom Hanks.
Run Tom Hanks
wrong.
Run Tom Hanks
wrong, yeah.
You'll never get
me Tom Hanks.
I'm Leonardo DiCaprio.
Catch me if you can.
There we go.
The movie.
The movie.
Yeah, because there's
a bit of that where there's a bit that where
he was a high
school kid
and that was
pushing it
because that was
like 2004
which means he
would have been
late 20s
early 30s
but anyway
good on him
good actor
so yeah
what a series
of contrasts
I don't know
look
he's too
dour for
Spider-Man
isn't he
he's too
sad
he is too
puffy faced you're right.
And by the third one, he'd clearly just stopped working out.
Right, yeah.
Because he's a little...
And, you know, fine.
Look whatever you want to look like.
Blade 3 syndrome.
Blade 3 syndrome.
You remember that one?
Yeah.
I mean, I don't have an issue with that.
But, yeah, he's just...
There's a lot of long-sleeved shirts in that one.
Yeah.
Clearly, he's like, who cares?
And Ryan Reynolds.
You know what happened?
He probably...
Wesley Snipes probably
started working out
and then Ryan Reynolds
showed up on set
just like,
just a,
just a beefcake man
and then.
Like a statue of David.
Like a statue of David
and Wesley Snipes
is like,
you know what,
forget it.
Long-sleeve black shirts,
all of them.
Yeah.
A layer of.
What a jerk.
I got a best of worst though.
I'm ready.
Same movie,
Spider-Man,
original Spider-Man,
for best.
I think the first one
was called
Spider-Man,
original Spider-Man.
It's,
I think Willem Dafoe
is an excellent
green goblin.
Yes, he is.
Even though the costume's
not great.
Terrible costume,
I was just thinking that today.
Yeah, but he
is amazing.
Yep.
And I would even say,
what's the guy in the second one?
Alfred Molonia?
Yep, that's the one.
That's also really good.
But Willem Dafoe,
what a great choice.
He nails the dual
characteristics.
Yep.
He's got that weird
goblin head.
He's got a goblin head.
See, exactly,
they could have just,
they could have just
had some sort of like
thin kind of membrane
over his face
and be like,
that's for soldiers
in battlefields and it protects against gas attacks or whatever.
Yep.
But they had to do a robot face.
Well, the funny thing is though, they actually tried an animatronic goblin face and there's
videos of it online and it looks a lot like the original kind of 60s green goblin.
Uh-huh.
Does it work?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, it's hard to say.
I mean, it's only test footage.
Right.
It's interesting.
Hmm.
It's better than a motorcycle helmet.
Yeah, it's true.
Does it look like Willem Dafoe?
No.
Not in any way.
But neither does a motorcycle helmet.
It doesn't look like him either.
Good point also.
Yeah.
He's brilliant.
What a great dude.
And he pops up in the other movies as well.
Yeah, yeah.
Just briefly in cameos.
I think if that universe had have continued to this very day
as Tobey Maguire
got wider and wider,
then I think
that would have
brought him back.
Probably, yeah.
I mean, he's unkillable
essentially.
He's always coming back.
But did you say,
did you have another one there?
Did you have a worst one?
I got a worst one.
Yeah, I'm ready.
This is a pretty obvious one.
Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Mr. Freeze.
Okay, yeah,
now that's alright.
Especially because at that point, Heart of Ice had come out. The episode Heart of Ice
from the Batman animated series. That is like the definitive Mr. Freeze story. Yeah. And
it's tragic and it reinvents the character and they steal a lot from that. And then they're
just like... That's making it ridiculous though. Yeah. Because he does have the frozen wife.
He has the frozen wife. Yeah. And so he's got that motivation because he's stealing diamonds.
Yep, because it's Powers is Freeze race.
Yeah.
Mr. Freeze is an interesting character because, like, in his original appearances, he was,
I think he was Mr. Zero, and he was just like a, he was a zero character.
He was like this happy-go-lucky kind of, like, he just had this cheery face, and he had this
kind of orange and magenta outfit.
He just had a little freezy gun that looked like a beekeeper's steam gun.
He just had some little adventures and stuff.
And then they brought, because they needed villains for the Batman TV series,
they just brought him.
They brought in Clock King, which they did really well. In the animated series, yeah.
Yeah.
And yeah, so they just,
so he was just this nothing character
until the animated series.
Yeah.
Who knew that it would,
that an animated series would
bring actual character to a character.
Yeah.
He's one of the,
I think he's one of the best Batman villains.
One of the most sympathetic,
one of the most interesting.
Great character in the Arkham games,
or the second one in particular. I love beating
that guy in the head. But you know what?
What really annoyed me about that
guy, and I know he's cold, but he's
like, Batman, after you
beat him up, he's like, Batman, they've taken my wife,
fired my wife. And I'm like,
alright, I'm going to do this because I'm Batman.
I'm not really Batman in the game, I was Batman.
So I go and I find him,
it's a whole thing
and I come back
it's a real ordeal
it's a real ordeal
took me a while
I come back and I'm like
here's your wife
Mr. Freese
and he's like
thank you Batman
and he just turns back
to his lab
and I'm like
you fucking prick
and if I could have
killed him I would have
yeah yeah
or you could have just
you could have just
punched his wife's head off
because she's frozen right
yeah
what a jerk but you know they've re in the new 52 Batman uh huh Or you could have just punched his wife's head off, because she's frozen, right? Yeah.
What a jerk.
You know, they're in the new 52 Batman.
Some people say this change is for the worse.
Some people say it's for the better.
I'd say it's interesting regardless.
Mr. Freeze is trying to thaw out his dead wife, or his frozen wife.
In a microwave.
In a microwave. In a really big microwave.
What a twist.
Bruce Wayne stops him and is like, you're fired.
And so you're like,
Bruce Wayne, what a prick.
Bruce Wayne's the one responsible
for Mr. Freeze going crazy.
But it turns out
that's not his wife.
That's a woman frozen
from like the 50s or 40s.
And he's just obsessed with her
and he's got it in his mind
that she is his wife.
Okay, that is interesting
yeah
I mean it makes him
less sympathetic
it makes him
very less sympathetic
and also
where did the
frozen lady come from
I don't know
they've kind of
combined
because
one of the
clay faces
in the comic books
the first one
the one who's
actually the actor
no the third one
the third one
who has
melty powers
I think he's dead
now
it doesn't matter
he was in
love with
like a
mannequin
like the
movie mannequin
yeah like in
the movie
mannequin
sure
with
Kim Cattell
Kim Cattrell
Kim Cattrell
Kim Cattrell
yeah
some of the
changes in
the new
52
Kim drug
Cattell
some of the
changes in
the new
52
I don't
know
I don't
know if
I care
for them
I don't
feel as
connected
with this new 52 like because don't know. I don't know if I care for them. I don't feel as connected with this new 52.
Because I grew up with Tim Drake as Robin.
Yep.
The third one.
And now in the comic books, they've retconned it so he was never Robin.
He was always Red Robin.
Yeah.
Don't like it.
Don't care for it.
Like the costume.
Don't like that twist.
Where were we?
I don't know.
Do you have somebody else who's good or bad?
oh let me find one
boy let me
okay
here's one for you
best casting
yep
half of the
Fantastic Four
worst casting
the other half
of the Fantastic Four
can I guess which?
Chris Evans obviously
great choice
yep
The Thing
yes those two
other two awful
Chickless Chickless incredible great kind of rough
kind of tough street smart shit suit yeah rubbish awful the wow just terrible see come on cgi that
yeah i'm gonna cgi nothing else i think that would have been you are chris evans quite versatile
because when you think about it it it's you know earnest genuine
Steve Rogers Captain America
smug prick
in Fantastic Four
yeah
absolutely
yeah yeah
completely agree with that
not good movies
though I think
we've said this before
the second one's not as bad
but I think that's because
yeah we were let down so badly
by the first one
and then on the other hand
we got
uh
Yohan Griffin
as just completely generic
Mr Fantastic
bad American accent
just
there's nothing to that
I mean you put
you can put the salt and pepper
at his temples
but he's not
no
he's not Reed Richards at all
well I think there's a reason
why that guy didn't take off
as a kind of leading man
Sam Worthington Syndrome
Sam Worthington Syndrome
yeah
and he's really
have you ever seen Hornblower
oh yep it's not as sexy as you'd think as it sounds but he's really have you ever seen Hornblower oh yep
it's not as sexy
as you'd think
as it sounds
but he's really good
in that
and I think he's a good
British actor
but as far as
a mainstream
kind of
they try to kind of
push him as this
kind of Clive Owen
kind of guy
but he's not
in any way
who would have been
a better choice
Clive Owen
as Reed Richards
yeah sure
okay yeah
alright
Statham
Statham
oh
Statham is the thing.
Yeah.
No, you know what?
Bruce Willis is the thing.
Yes.
Voice-off.
Yeah, that would work, yeah.
Because you could not get Bruce Willis in a rubber suit.
Absolutely, not even for a second.
What about Jessica Alba?
Well, I mean, there was a lot of people like...
Was she not sexy enough?
She was certainly sexy.
Enough?
Yeah, enough. But, I don't know, not intellectual enough? She was certainly sexy. Enough? Yeah, enough.
But I don't know.
Not intellectual enough.
Yeah, fair point.
I kind of enjoy in the Fantastic Four the contrast between Invisible Woman, Mr. Fantastic,
they're the intellectuals of the team.
But she's more heart, he's more head kind of thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not in the sexual way.
Right, sure. Sorry. Didn't need to say that yeah. Not in the sexual way. Right, sure.
Sorry.
Didn't need to say that, did I?
Not at all.
Edit that out.
Keep it in.
But then, yeah, just, again, generic.
Yeah.
Just, she was the girl at the time.
Yep.
Terrell were in the film.
Weird.
Yeah.
I got one.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
No.
I've actually got here, I did you should mention that
I'll come back to that one next
Henry Cavill
or Cavill
Man of Steel
Superman
despite what you may think
of that film
and I've said this before
I know you love it
I like it quite a bit
a lot of people don't like it
haters
haters on the internet
he is an amazing choice
yep
and he was from day one
he was nearly in
he nearly got it when
nearly got in the
Superman Returns
there was a one before that
that I think McG was doing
that he nearly got in
McG
where he's actually
there's a footage of him
not footage
there's a picture of him
that just came online recently
where he's wearing that suit
so it's his
so he went in for it
they put him in the suit
and everything
but he looks very much more like Superboy.
Oh, I see.
Because he would have been pretty young then, probably maybe 19, 20, maybe early 20s.
But what a great choice, and just threw himself completely into it.
The only thing I would say for him is they don't give him enough dialogue in Man of Steel.
I don't think he's as defined a character as I would have liked him to be.
He's kind of, not vague in his motivations, but I would like to see him kind of more kind of, I don't know, talk
about what he believes in and standing up for things and doing what's right.
Yep. Saving more dogs.
Yeah, saving more dogs. Exactly. Superman, he can be earnest. It's the same with Captain
America. Captain America has proved it. You can be earnest without being a goof. Not everyone
needs to be a fucking wisecracking Robert Downey Jr. type.
Uh-huh.
Who does that very well.
Yeah.
But you've got...
Good casting.
Let's not cover that again, but just know that he's good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, Iron Man is practically the Robert Downey Jr. story when you think about it.
Exactly.
Yeah.
But I think, yeah, he's got that kind of sincerity, and I hope they bring that to the second one.
Yes.
I think he's great.
He's got that kind of sincerity, and I hope they bring that to the second one.
Yes.
I think he's great.
On the flip side of that, even though I don't... I think this more comes down to the movie than him, but Brandon Routh is a weird choice
because they just picked him, and they did just do this.
Because he looks like...
Because he looks like Christopher Reeves.
Right.
He sounds like Christopher Reeves.
Uh-huh.
You shouldn't pick somebody based on that, because you're basically...
That movie is a love letter to the Richard Donner films. Uh-huh. Reeves. You shouldn't pick somebody based on that because you basically, that movie
is a love letter to the Richard Donner films. Probably shouldn't spend $275 million on a
love letter. I'm just saying, whatever it costs. So again, I don't hate him. I think
it was $250 million on the movie and $250 million on the marketing. That sounds right.
Yeah. And that was in 2006. That's a lot of money for 2006. Good gravy.
So, I don't know
man. I don't think he's bad
in it. No.
It's just a weird choice that you would just cast a guy who's
exactly like Christopher Reeves who also
what an amazing casting choice.
There you go. He's been good in other things.
Yeah, I agree. I like him.
He's good in Scott Pilgrim. He's good in
Dylan Dog, Dead of Night. Not a good movie, but he's good in it.
He's in Zack and Miri Make a Porno at the start.
Oh, yeah.
And he's quite funny.
He seems like a funny guy.
Yeah.
And I like him.
And I feel bad that he's not in more stuff now.
Let's put him in a film.
Once we get our Audible money from that Audible spot.
Yeah, when are they going to do that?
Who knows?
But we'll put him in a movie once we do that.
Yeah, sure.
I like him.
And I follow him on Twitter.
I like him.
But, you know, not his fault.
What does he do on Twitter?
Not much.
Mostly talks about his new kid.
Ah, nice.
Can I do one?
Of course you can.
Casting choices.
Do it.
Okay, how about this?
Best, just briefly, Nick Cage in Kick-Ass.
Yep.
As Big Daddy.
Yep.
Great one.
Great one.
Great stuff.
I mean, they tweaked the character from the comic books a little bit.
A lot.
Quite a lot.
Because in the comic books, he's not...
He's just an accountant.
His wife left him.
Yeah.
Which sort of turns into child abuse.
Yeah.
Because it's like, hey, let's throw my daughter into harm's way.
I like that better, though.
Yeah, it is fun.
Because it makes him crazier.
Yeah, yeah. And that would definitely makes him crazier. Yeah, yeah.
And that would definitely fit with Nick Cage.
Yeah.
Crazier.
Worst, Nick Cage in Ghost Rider.
Which one?
The first one.
No, not the second one.
You know what?
Only the first one, because the second one, you're like, well, Nick Cage is in this.
Let's just deal with it.
Yeah.
But the first one, because at the start of that film you say you see a young johnny blaze making a deal with with mephisto to to sell his soul yeah and that
handsome what have you young good looking he would have been a better choice yeah as ghost
rider in that and then it cuts flashes forward to like washed up old johnny blaze melted candle
johnny blaze yeah and he's got the dumbest looking wig you've ever seen.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, it's that weird painted on effect.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
And it looks like, I don't know, I don't even know what that hair is.
Like it doesn't suit his face.
The hairline's all wrong.
Uh-huh.
It's just, wow, what were they thinking?
Yeah, yeah.
And again, you know what, those two films show the versatility of Nicolas Cage.
Crazy Nicolas Cage.
Have we discussed this on the podcast?
We may have.
If you remember, cut this out.
People write in, don't write in.
Nicolas Cage's choice of roles,
there's got to be... There's got to be...
Is there a method to that madness?
I wonder.
Like...
Because he works a lot.
He does a lot of films.
He does.
Probably because he's got crazy spending habits.
Yeah.
Like, he outbid Leonardo DiCaprio on a dinosaur skull once, I think.
Maybe that's made up.
I don't know.
I've heard that too, yeah.
But, you know, I think his casting process must be,
like every three or four months,
his agent comes into his house, right?
And he's just got a big stack of scripts
and he's like, okay, Nicolas Cage,
he's...
Put down the dinosaur skull.
Put down the dinosaur skull, first of all.
Here's, okay, we've got an action film,
we've got a sci-fi film,
we've got like a quirky kind of independent
adaptation style film.
You can have a supporting role in this Oscar
bait film, whatever, and then Nicolas Cage
just walks over and he grabs the first one off the
pile and just goes, that one.
Whatever that is, I'll do it.
I guess that's it, but you know what?
I think the only reason I would say there might be
some method to his madness is because
it's like
four or five shit films
in a row
entertaining nonetheless
usually
well he is
and then
an amazing performance
and then everyone goes
oh no he's back
he's not back
just wait
wait one film
and then it's
four or five shit films
in a row
and he's back
you know
so I think
in that sense
he's smart enough to know
I'm just going to do a bunch of schlock
for a bit of cash, take a bit of a pay cut.
Buy some paleontological remains of some sort.
Make the weatherman.
Yep.
Precisely.
Or, that's probably not a good example.
The family man.
The family man, yeah.
And then, yeah, that's what I think his process is.
Yeah, yeah.
I think he's smarter than people give him credit for.
I think he's crazy. people give him credit for I think he's crazy
definitely
but
you know
as an Oscar winner
he's certainly
made better choices
than say
Cuba Gooding Jr
oh my god yeah
has he ever made
a good film
uh
okay
he was in Pearl Harbor
no
he was in Daddy Day Camp
oh yeah good point
I retract my entire argument
he's not been in a good film
since I just watched
Don John with Joseph Lele.
It's a great movie. Who's in that? Briefly.
He's in a
clip of a made up film within the
movie. Does that make sense? Yeah.
So I guess he's in that. Right. It's like
a three second clip. Fantastic.
Dice Clay's in that, right? Andrew Dice Clay?
Not what I'm saying. In Don John?
No, no, you're thinking of, who's the boss? Tony Danza. Tony Danza. I'm pretty sure Dice Clay's in that, right? Andrew Dice Clay? Not what I've seen. In Donjon? No, no, you're thinking of, uh, who's the boss?
Tony Danza.
Tony Danza.
I'm pretty sure Dice Clay's in that.
I think you're thinking of a different movie, because he just, Dice Clay just did apparently
turn in some amazing performance.
Huh.
And I can't remember what it's in.
There you go.
Yeah.
I got one for you.
Dice Clay News.
Yes?
Dice Clay.
What do you got?
I had another thing that linked from the Nicolas Cage thing.
Ah, maybe I'll think of it later.
Is it that he's crazy?
Is it something to do with him being crazy?
Dinosaur skulls.
Dinosaur skulls.
I've got Chris Evans.
Come back to it if you...
I will.
I'll come back.
Okay.
Chris Evans as Captain America.
I know we just briefly talked about this.
When he got cast, I wasn't worried for one reason.
Even though a lot of people didn't see this movie, he's in Sunshine.
Yep, okay.
Which is probably my favourite movie of all time.
Wow, big call.
At least top five.
Is that a Danny Boyle film?
It's a Danny Boyle film.
I think it's Danny Boyle's strongest film and it tanked, but I think it's amazing.
Even though it becomes like a...
I mean, it's a documentary about Sunshine and people are really not interested in that.
Like it's a docudrama about the guy who discovered Sunshine.
The scientist.
It is.
Yeah.
But it's a,
for those who haven't seen it,
it's basically about
this team who go
to the sun
to basically restart it
because the sun is dying.
And it sounds dumb,
but it's got an amazing
international cast.
It's a really solid
sci-fi film.
And Chris Evans plays
this kind of American,
he's not,
he's kind of, I can't remember what his particular
job is on the mission, but he kind of keeps everyone in check.
His job is to get the stick and put it in the big bit of wood and just sort of swizzle
it between his hands and get the spark going. That was his job in the film.
And then the stick flies off into space and they're like, no! And they have to retrieve
the stick.
And everybody else in the movie's like,
oh,
we've got to do what's the right thing,
you know,
we shouldn't kill anybody or whatever.
And Chris Evans is like,
no,
fuck it.
The sun is dying.
Everyone's going to die.
He's the guy who's like,
we've got to do this,
no matter what.
And he's incredible in that movie.
And after that,
they're like,
Chris Evans is Captain America.
And I went,
yes.
Because he is an amazing actor.
You know,
then that movie proves it. And also, Captain America proves it, because because he is an amazing actor yeah you know then that movie proves it
and also Captain America
proves it
because he plays it
earnestly
yep
he worked out
like a mad dog
absolutely
and it's great
I mean maybe not
so much towards the end
but he's great
yeah definitely
so there you go
I like that character
who would have thought
that Captain America
would play as well
as it did
because I know
they changed the name in the in the the United Kingdom to the First Avenger.
Because I know in the UK he's a bit of a joke.
Huh.
And, um...
He's not Captain Britain, certainly.
Do you think they...
Now that's a joke.
That's...
Yeah.
Yeah.
You got one, sorry?
Uh, hang on.
I'm trying to think of some iconic British superheroes.
The Avengers, but not the Avengers.
Not superheroes. Doesn't count.
The Leopard of Lime Street.
That's a real one.
How do you like that? How do you like that, Paul?
I've never heard of him.
What about the Beef Vendetta guy?
V.
Not really a superhero.
Nah.
There's a lot of Super villains
Yeah
There really are
Yeah
I know I mean
Not not
I don't mean villains
With British accents
I mean like
British created
Yeah
Oh Judge Dredd
Judge Dredd
There we go
There's a
There's a
Okay best
I don't want to talk about
Carl Urban
You son of a bitch
Carl Urban
I snagged you on
Carl Urban
Judge Dredd
Worst one
Sylvester Stallone
God damn it
I had this written down here.
I just wrote it like two minutes ago.
How do you like that?
Let's talk about that.
Okay.
Carl Urban, what do you think?
Good.
You know what?
It's a testament to someone who can just act with the lower half of their face.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not earth-shaking acting.
No.
Or by any means.
But he realised that the major drawcard of Joe Treader's
is he doesn't take the mask off.
He doesn't take the helmet off at any point.
The ego didn't enter into it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They weren't like, we've got to show his face
because everyone wants to see Carl Urban.
Yeah, yeah.
Who's amazing, by the way.
Almost human, I've said this before.
Great show.
Great sci-fi show about AI.
Yeah.
He's really well cast in that movie.
And that movie does have a lot of the slow-mo
effects. They're really great.
And it plays for a good reason.
Because a lot of slow-mo is done for no reason.
And that makes a lot of sense.
Because it's a drug. Like if you're on, say, a motorcycle
spinning around and you've got four guns in your hands.
Doves fly into your face.
Yeah, definitely
Great choice
Sylvester Stallone on the other hand
What a prick
Oh, that's right, you hate him
From several minutes ago
You just told me you hated him
Look, he's good at that particular thing that he does
I kind of like that
But he pissed away his career
Because it's so ridiculous
Like
When I saw the trailer for the most recent Dread, I was against it because that universe sort of looks...
It's not crazy sci-fi enough.
No.
But then, having watched it, it does make perfect sense.
Like, there shouldn't be hovercars and, you know, etc, etc.
Yeah.
Because there's been a nuclear war And why do you need Hover cars
If your factories can already make
Just pick up trucks
It does make perfect sense when you think about it
I do definitely have a soft spot
For the insane
Megacity one
It's filled with freaks and flying cars
It is a very funny movie
Even though it's not good
I think,
I remember I heard...
It's got Mean Machine in it.
Mean Machine.
You can go with the dial on his head.
It's got an ABC warrior
which was like
the giant robot guy.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he fights mutants.
Yeah, he fights mutants.
With like a metal thing
stapled to his head.
Yeah, yeah, uh-huh.
He spends most of the movie
without the mask on.
I think it's like
eight or ten minutes in
he takes the mask off.
Oh, and Amanda Sante mask off oh and Amanda Santay
is in that
Amanda Santay
who's insane
in that movie
but in a good way
they're brothers in it
or whatever
yeah
what a great movie
great
best casting
yeah I heard an interview
with Mark Kermode
you know he's a
British film
reviewer
he's great
he's probably my
favourite film
Mark Kermode
did you say
Kermode yeah
The Toilet
is that his
name
yeah
he's the best I love him great podcast as well everyone should listen. Mark Kermode, did you say? Kermode, yeah. The Toilet? Is that his nickname? Yeah, it's great.
He's the best.
I love him.
Great podcast as well.
Everyone should listen to it.
Kermode and Mayo.
Anyway, or it might be Kermode, which I think is still the same.
But he basically said he interviewed Stallone once in a car park about Judge Dredd, and they were talking about why...
Were they about to fight?
Is that why?
He broke a pool cue over his head
and he gets him out of the parking lot
and he's like,
can I interview him about Judge Dredd
before you beat me up?
You know what annoys me also?
Before you inject some horse human growth hormone
or whatever and fight me in a car park?
You know what also annoys me about Judge,
not Judge, Stallone,
more so than Schwarzenegger?
He thinks he's an actual, legitimate, tough guy.
And that annoys
me. He's very muscular and whatever.
Do you remember when he got busted for trying to smuggle human growth hormone into Australia?
He did.
So weird. You can't be without it for two weeks? Come on.
I doubt he was even here for two weeks.
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, it annoys me when people like that, like Seagal is the same.
Yeah, yeah.
And probably a little bit Van Damme.
But he's a law man.
That's true.
It's not true. That's true. Where probably a little bit Van Damme. But he's a law man. That's true. That's not true.
That's true.
Where they think they're legitimate tough guys.
Right.
And it just annoys me, because if you put that guy, and I'm not a tough guy, so this
isn't coming from me going, I could beat him up, because I definitely couldn't.
My point is, 90% of the male population could beat up Stallone.
Right.
And he's under the impression that that's not the case.
Oh, I see, right.
Anyway, in this fight
Carpark... So if you are 90%
of the population of, say, America
just all go to his house and beat him up.
Do I say male population as well?
I'd say a lot of that is female population. Probably too, yeah.
Thank you. Just to clear that
clear the air there. Anyway, the Carpark
and Stallone said, yeah, the problem was when I came
on set and I had the suit on and the mask
the problem with that movie was, nobody laughed.
Like, none of the cast laughed.
So he clearly didn't understand the character.
Judge Dredd isn't supposed to be funny.
Oh, I mean...
Not in that way.
Not like, what a wacky costume.
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, I know it's satirical and blah-de-blah-de-blah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, he is... I know it's satirical and blah blah blah Yeah What's weird is he's supposed to be an American character Who is a
A satire of the fascism
Of Thatcher's Britain
Which is an odd place to start from
Sure
Yeah
I do have a soft spot for that film but he's not
Great
Rob Schneider's in it as well.
Or Roy Schneider.
Yeah.
Or Roy Schneider, just fighting sharks all day.
Yeah.
Sequest DSV.
I used to love that show.
Yeah, and then they went to space.
Did they?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Look, Mark Hamill was in that briefly as well.
We have diverged, so this is just us saying things now.
Talking dolphin in that as well.
Okay.
There is, if you haven't seen it i think it's called minty yeah i haven't seen it but i know it's a judge dread
short film featuring that you know minor character judge minty as he goes sort of in the in the in
the dread universe when you're a judge for for various reasons, you can take the long walk,
which is you leave the megacity and you go out into the cursed earth
and you just spend the short remains of your life just fighting mutants.
And it's a short film about that.
Is it like an honorable thing?
Honorable way to go out or whatever?
Yeah, kind of, yeah.
Cool.
Yeah, and it's a short film about that and it looks really fantastic and it's quite good
so it's sort of
it's sort of
a midpoint
between
the original
Judge Dredd film
and the new one
like it's
like he's got
the sort of
the classic
Judge outfit on
yeah
and it's
but it's quite
it's more
on the
on the new Dredd
tip
well that movie tanked, unfortunately, as well.
It did, so there'd probably be no sequels, which is a shame.
Well, apparently it sold pretty well on Blu-ray,
and there's been petitions online for it to come back,
but I don't think it will.
Maybe there'll be a Thomas Jane-esque Punisher dirty laundry
five-minute short film with Carl Urban in it.
That'd be awesome.
Can we talk about Punisher?
Great casting.
Ray Stevenson as the Punisher
looks fantastic
in Punisher Warzone
I don't have much
to say about that
no I don't have
a worst
no Thomas Jane
he's still good
but you think
Ray Stevenson
Ray Stevenson
has the look
he has the kind
of the Punisher
Max
sorry we've done
that before
and
yeah just that
I don't know just just that tough edge.
He looks like an old guy who's been just murdering the mafia for a long time.
Yeah.
And I think that's great, yeah.
Yeah, he is good.
And he's in, um, he's Volstagg.
In the Thor films.
Yeah, yeah, totally, yeah.
Okay, I've got one on the flip side of that then.
Okay.
Now, I don't know whether this is...
Vin Diesel as the pacifier.
Is that what you were going to say? That's what I was going to say.
Moving on. Now my next one, I don't know
whether this is miscast or I just
think this movie is terrible. I think it's a bit
of both. Everything and
everyone... Loves Raymond.
In League of Extraordinary
Gentlemen. Yeah, no that's just a terrible film.
Hang on, maybe somebody's good in that.
Nope, everybody's bad in that, you're right.
The guy
played Tom Sawyer.
Sean Connery, I don't even know if that's
miscast, but I think it's more that he doesn't seem to
know what is happening. Correct. Last movie he ever
did, and I think I've said this before, the only reason he did
it is because he turned down The Matrix because he didn't understand
it. He turned down Lord of the Rings because he didn't
understand it, and he didn't understand League of
Extraordinary Gentlemen, but he thought, you know what,
I'm not missing that again.
And then he retired immediately after.
So, there you go.
I think that might just be that I hate that movie.
I think that's probably it, yeah.
You got one? Let me think.
Ron Perlman
and Hellboy. Ah, I had that too.
I also had with Ron Perlman,
Doug Jones as H.A.P. Jeffrey Tambor as well. Yeah, Ah, I had that too. I also had with Ron Perlman, Doug Jones as H-Sapien.
Jeffrey Tambor as well.
Voice of, yeah, okay.
Yeah, okay, I forgot about that.
Yeah, he's fantastic in that, yeah.
Yeah.
And Voice of H-Sapien, what's his face?
It was Doug Jones in the sequel, but in the original it was Frazier's brother.
Frazier's brother.
There we go.
David Hyde Pierce.
David Hyde Pierce, there we go.
Yep, okay, good.
We're tying it together again.
Yeah.
Seinfeld's happening again.
Great movie cast
yeah definitely
Selma Blair I guess as well
you know
that's a good choice
it's fine
don't get all over it
it's fine
Jessica Alba
whatever
doesn't matter
yeah great choice
I mean Ron Perlman
you'd think they would've
picked a Ron Perlman
because
he's nearly 60 now
I think he is 60
oh he's 60 now
there you go
or more or less.
Or exactly.
Ages ain't nothing but a number, man.
You know, you're only as old as you feel.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
Ron Perlman probably feels pretty old.
Well, he says it's really taxing doing those movies
because he's wearing, you know,
50 pounds of prosthetics.
And he's always probably listening to one side
because one of his hands is giant.
You know,
recently,
actually,
he put all that
makeup on again
recently.
I think I know
where this is going.
Ah, yeah.
To visit a kid
in hospital.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which I love.
That's pretty good.
I love that stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
You never see
Stallone put on
his Judge Dredd hat
and go in.
You never see him
put on his
Expendables little
beret thing,
do you, eh?
You might.
Yeah.
You know,
Stallone also hates
comic book movies and he's like, they're not real action stars. Bleh. He said that before. Shut eh? You might. Yeah. You know Stallone also hates comic book movies.
He's like, they're not real action stars.
Bleh.
He said that before.
Shut up, Stallone.
Yeah.
I'm really beginning to hate this guy.
Maybe it's your influence.
I don't know.
I think it is.
I thought he was a stand-up guy until this point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Prick.
Great demolition man, though.
What a great movie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Perfect casting.
I got one on the flip side.
Okay, ready?
Yeah. Are you ready or am I ready? I'm ready. Are you ready? I'm ready to listen. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect casting. I got one on the flip side. Okay. Ready? Yeah.
Are you ready or am I ready?
I'm ready.
Are you ready?
I'm ready to listen.
Okay.
Good.
This is actually auto-corrected on my iPad.
It says, go for grace.
Fantastic.
Obviously, go for grace as Vedim.
I think he would have made a better Peter Parker.
Yeah.
A better than Tobey Maguire.
Correct.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Fair point.
I mean, remove evil from the equation.
I never can.
You can't.
That's the problem with the world.
Yep, you're right.
Wow.
Okay, that's interesting.
Yeah, I'll pay that.
I would have preferred...
Because I think they wanted someone who was physically similar to Tobey Maguire.
So, I don't know.
I feel Venom needs a bigger guy.
Because Eddie Brock in the comics is always like bodybuilder style.
Yeah, that's exactly right, yeah.
And I know Tobey Grace did say he put on muscle for whatever, whatever.
But it doesn't really show.
No.
He did work out like a mad dog, certainly.
You know, for Spider-Man 2, Tobey had a back injury.
And there was a whole money kind of dispute or whatever.
So they basically said to him, you're out.
Gyllenhaal, you're in.
Oh, yeah.
Maggie Gyllenhaal.
Jake Gyllenhaal.
And then Tamek would go, no, no, I'm back.
Okay.
Jake Gyllenhaal would have been a better Spider-Man.
I think you're right, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
But hey, we'll never know that.
We'll never know.
That's true.
Yeah.
So yeah, go for grace.
Not a good Venom.
Not at all.
Although he did have the teeth. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha Venom. Not at all. Although he did have the teeth.
Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
Ho, ho, ho, ho.
Ho, ho.
Have you got any mores?
Ah, who do I have?
Let's see who did that one.
I mean, you've got your classic,
you've got obviously your Heath Ledger's,
your Patrick's.
That is the best cast.
That is probably,
and we've said this,
I won't go over it again,
but that is the best casting
in a comic book movie ever, I think.
Fair point.
Best villainous performance ever, I think. And I called that at the time. No casting in a comic book movie ever I think fair point best villainous performance
ever I think
and I called that
at the time
no you didn't
no I said
great choice
because he's an amazing actor
you say so many things
that it doesn't
I wasn't doing videos then
oh okay
I can't prove it
so there's no proof
okay fantastic
but he'd just done
Brokeback Mountain
and he was just
he'd done a kind of
bunch of middling films
like I like A Knight's Tale and that's a good movie and whatever he'd done a bunch of bunch of middling films like i like a knight's
tale that's a good movie and whatever he's done a bunch of kind of stuff like that yeah and then
he did broke back mountain i can't remember something else and then it was kind of like
well this guy can really act dark knight dead so yeah travesty that's a shame but yeah amazing
choice uh let me i've got one more yep uh It's a bad one Yep
Jennifer Garner
Elektra
I mean again
Probably because we hate
The film is not great
Did we see that at the movies?
Must have done
I mean
I enjoy working many things
Sure
She was great in Alias
That was fun
Suddenly 30
Yeah great
Fantastic
That movie with the terrorism.
Terrorism?
Yeah, terrorism.
Oh, the one with Jamie Foxx.
Yes.
I don't think that's a good movie.
Yeah, but anyway, not Greek.
I think that's pretty much what it boils down to.
Electricity, probably Greek.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nachios.
Nachios, yeah.
Yeah, there you go.
Good point.
I got one for good.
Okay.
Gary Oldman, Commissioner Gordon.
Good.
Fantastic.
Got the moustache. Uh- Fantastic. Got the moustache.
Uh-huh.
Got the pistachios.
Yes.
I don't know what that means.
It's an acting term.
Yeah, it is.
Nuts.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yeah, great Commissioner Gordon.
He would fit into any Batman universe.
Like, if you made a more comic book kind of Batman universe Commissioner Gordon
is always grounded
always a guy
always a gruff
kind of moustachioed
would you watch a film
yep
where
Gary Oldman
as Commissioner Gordon
is doing a press conference
and
J.K. Simmons
as J. Jonah Jameson
is in the press pool
right
because all his reporters
have called in sick
for some reason
and he's really annoyed
that he has to go out into the field
and interview Gary Oldman, and it's
just a back and forth
fight between the two.
How good would that be? I'd watch that.
That would be amazing, are you kidding me?
And then there's,
you know what, that, and it ends with
you know what, there's a series of scuffles.
It's two hours long and there's a series of scuffles throughout the film.
Definitely.
I would watch that.
Greatest movie ever made.
Definitely.
That's the best reason to cross over anything ever.
I think so.
You know one of the best crossover comics, not relevant, that you gave to me once?
The Batman vs. Predator comic.
The first one.
Yeah, the first one was really good.
It was amazing.
The next few, awful.
Yeah.
There's a Superman one
which sucks.
Yeah.
The best intercompany crossover
ever, I think.
It's DC...
Sorry, it's Marvel
and Archie comics.
Okay.
The Punisher meets Archie.
That's not real.
No, it's a real thing.
It's an actual real thing.
What year?
Ah, mid to late 90s, I think.
What?
Okay, basically
the Punisher is searching for a villain
who looks a lot like Archie Andrews.
And so he gets a hot lead and he ends up in Riverdale
where he has to track down this villain at the Riverdale prom.
And it's great because nobody
is out of character
at any point
like the Punisher
is the Punisher
and Archie
is happy-go-lucky
Archie in Riverdale
and they team up
sort of
and it's the best
that sounds amazing
it is amazing
yeah
get that on your
app
I bloody will
get that on your
comics
I was going to say
about the Batman
thing just quickly
what I love about it
the predator goes
after the Batman
because the Batman
is the greatest
whatever whatever
and at the end
Batman just beats
him to death
with a baseball bat
that's actually
that's a really good
point that is good
old American know how
yeah because he can
because he's an alien
so the rule doesn't
apply so he can
kill him it's fine
he doesn't kill him
though
doesn't he kill him he pulps, so he can kill him, it's fine. He doesn't kill him, though.
Doesn't he kill him?
He pulps him a lot.
And then he, if you recall, he wins and there's like... And they give him a gun or whatever.
The Predator admits defeat.
And doesn't explode himself?
He doesn't, because then the remaining Predators come down from space.
And they're like, okay, break it up.
Break it up, boys.
No, and they hand the Predator like a ceremon sword, and the Predator kills himself with that.
Oh, that's right.
And then they present Batman with the ceremonial sword, which he puts in the Batcave.
Batman should have just killed them all.
Yeah, that's a really good point.
Yeah.
Great crossover.
Alright, I got one more for bad.
Okay, I'm ready.
It's got to be real bad.
It's so bad.
Fantastic.
Chris O'Donnell as Robin, and I'll tell you why.
Shaved head. Fine, whatever. Fantastic. Chris O'Donnell as Robin. And I'll tell you why. Shaved head.
Fine. Whatever.
At the time that movie came out
and I looked this up
guess how old Christopher Robin
Chris O'Donnell was.
I don't know how.
25.
Batman adopted a grown man.
Yeah that's very odd isn't it.
And I know they probably wanted to get away from the whole
it's weird if Batman adopts a kid. It's weirder if he adopts a 25 year old man. Yeah, that's very odd, isn't it? Yeah. And I know they probably wanted to get away from the whole it's weird if Batman
adopts a kid.
It's weirder if he adopts
a 25-year-old man.
It's very odd
and also they're the same height
pretty much.
Yeah.
Especially in the second...
And build.
Yeah, height and build.
Chris O'Donnell
may even be bigger.
Yeah, possibly, yeah.
Than Clooney, probably.
Yeah, yeah.
Clooney's not a good choice
there either.
I mean, he's charismatic
but he's not Bruce Wayne
charismatic. There's no edge to him at all. No.oney's not a good choice there either. I mean, he's charismatic but he's not Bruce Wayne charismatic.
There's no edge to him
at all.
He's just a genial
kind of...
But I think in the
right movie,
Clooney would be
a good Batman.
Yeah, maybe, yeah.
A good older Batman.
What's the one
that he came out
recently where
his wife's in a coma?
Can't remember.
He's great.
I was going to say,
when I was growing up,
I always thought
that American children were much bigger than
Australian children. And that's because all American TV and movies, you had sort of high
school age characters being played by like 25 year olds. And so I was always terrified.
I was terrified that Americans would come over here and beat us all up.
Like they'd just send their children.
They'd send their children.
Yeah.
I mean, you've got that at school.
You've got that one giant kid who looks like he's 25, but everyone else looks like a goon
until they're like 23.
Exactly.
So, yeah.
That's very true, though.
Yeah, yeah.
They even still do that now.
How old was Tom Wally when he did Smallville?
He must have been mid to late 20s.
At least, yeah.
Yeah.
Weird.
Fantastic.
Okay, I've got a couple ones here that I've just kind of listed here.
Okay, right.
Heath Ledger, talked about.
Yep.
Patrick Stewart, great choice, I think.
It's kind of like the default kind of...
Of course, it's Patrick Stewart.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
He's a bald guy.
He's a bald guy, sure. Robert Downey Jr. Christopher Reeves? I think it's Patrick Stewart oh yeah yeah he's a bald guy he's a bald guy sure
Robert Downey Jr
Christopher Reeves
I think it's
Christopher Reeve
I wasn't going to
correct you earlier
I was going to
correct you earlier
but then
he's one of my heroes
you're not the first one
to make that mistake though
he's one of my heroes
and I was really sad
when he died
him
Paul Newman
Steve McQueen
Greg Kinnear
not good
not true not dead no not true I do like Greg Kinnear. Not true, not dead.
No, not true.
I do like Greg Kinnear, but those three are my heroes.
Dead.
And what's his name?
The Blonde Guy.
Robert Redford, still alive.
The Blonde Guy.
The Blonde Guy.
Really happy that he's not dead.
Yeah, great.
I've got a couple bad ones here as well.
Okay, I'm ready.
These are kind of default.
Halle Berry as Catwoman
Slash Storm
You don't like her Storm?
No
I'm indifferent
But the Catwoman
I didn't see it
That's probably more a bad movie
And the other one is
And I can't believe you didn't bring this up
Shaq as Steel.
I see, I haven't seen it. I can't pass it up to you. Maybe it's great.
Maybe it's great.
Let's end on that then.
Fantastic.
On that questionable, never know the answer to. Now, last week there was a comment on
one of my YouTube videos.
Uh-huh, Mr. Sunday Moosie.
Mr. Sunday Moosie, that's right,ie that's right which you found super amusing so I thought
maybe we could
introduce a new section
called
The Craziest Lunatic
fantastic
no just
just like
an amusing
or insane comment
I'm ready for it
because most of the stuff
but see I don't want
people to just comment
you're right
yeah
you know what folks
no competition
if we have a look at one
and for the record I'm not going to look at any comments, but
if one happens to crop up...
Every now and then, we might.
We might bring one in.
But I can tell.
If you come out and you say, oh, aliens are imparting thoughts in my brain, lizard men,
I'm...
Like, I'll know.
Yeah.
I'm good at that.
Yeah.
I'm good at the internet.
You're great at the internet.
So don't try and trick me.
And it's kind of a shame that we'd focus on the crazy and the lunatics then.
So many nice comments.
So many genuinely insightful things.
And I'm just like, this guy's a lunatic.
We should probably say it though because he's a lunatic.
Yeah.
Okay.
So this is from, should I say his name?
Nah.
Nah.
This is from Green Minded.
Two words.
Okay.
Fantastic.
That's his name. Okay. This is from Green Minded. Two words. Okay, fantastic. That's his name.
Okay. Or his YouTube name. This is about my video, Is Gal Gadot a Good Choice for Wonder
Woman? Which is a clip of us talking about that. Yeah. And the result was, we're indifferent,
I think. I can't remember what we said, but probably. Okay. Which is probably going to
be great. They should stick to Megan Fox because, B-C-O-Z, should I just read it as is?
Yes, please.
Okay, they should stick to, oh, riddle with, um, no grammar, by the way.
Okay, they should stick to Megan Fox because her body is perfect.
Perfect for bikini costume, Gal Gadot should drink 60 gallon of horse semen protein mixed with condensed milk
and 20 gallon of bodybuilder's semen to gain weight.
And sex exercise.
Ha ha!
And sex is in capitals.
Fantastic. Well, why wouldn't it be? Otherwise we might
misunderstand that. That's amazing.
That's a lot of semen
from various sources
to what end?
I don't understand
I don't know
is he saying that
she would
or she
we don't know
that's a really good point
actually I apologise
they're saying that
then they would be
worthy of the role
or they bulk up
I think
with semen
with a lot of semen
as all bodybuilders do
does that work?
just curious asking for a friend does that does that work at all i don't it's 100 accurate anyway congratulations
to you green minded you've won our comment of the week or something let's not make this a regular
thing yeah yeah that's great that That'll do it, eh?
Fantastic.
Now, next week, we might record this one a little bit earlier and then release it around New Year's,
because I'm going away.
I think, are you going away?
Or are you dying?
Yeah, I'm dying.
So this will be the last one, but it's going to be great.
So we're going to do our best and worst movies of the year.
Fantastic.
From all the big blockbusters,
we've pretty much done all the comic book movie ones.
Are they good
are they Oscar contenders
have I seen them at all
it's a mystery
what will happen
next week
on the podcast
the main reason
I want to do it
is because I want to
rant about Star Trek
Into Darkness
okay good
haven't you done enough
mate
I have
that is easily
I've got
I've put that video up
about Star Trek
Into Darkness
not being good
and it got 150,000 views.
Oh, I see what this is.
You're chasing your achievement.
I must be.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's easily, like, it's clearly something that people are passionate about.
Yeah, yeah.
And, you know, the director of Star Trek, not the director, one of the writers from
Star Trek Into Darkness, he went on a Star Trek forum to defend the film and said something
like, this is why you idiots aren't writing films, and I am.
And he went on this whole tirade about how we're wrong
because it made the most money ever
and he rejuvenated the franchise.
And we're idiots.
We are idiots, though.
Yeah, he's right.
But yeah, I think if the general consensus is
your thing is not very good,
it's probably not.
I liked it.
Whatever, man.
No, I think as a film, it works.
As a Star Trek film, it is horse semen.
Wow.
How many gallons?
20.
Yeah, wow.
Bunk you right up.
That's a lot of semen.
Yeah, yeah.
And I'm going to tell you why later.
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah.
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Take care.
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Hey, I'm just going to step out the door for a second. Hey, wait a second.
If we were in here recording the podcast, like I left some milk and cookies on the couch.
If we were in here recording the podcast, who had all the milk?
Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
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