The Weekly Planet - 147 Suicide Squad is...

Episode Date: August 8, 2016

Suicide Squad is finally here! And everybody loves it. Except for most critics and a lot of fans. Regardless, we get right into it! We also talk a bunch of Star Wars news, a look at some new Tran...sformers, Thor: Ragnarok news, Christoper Nolan’s latest and more. Thanks for watching! I mean listening.1:53 Jimmy Smits in Rogue One4: 32 Dunkirk teaser8:05 Star Wars on ABC?10:53 New Transformers (are balls)14:44 New Star Wars ship17:09 Mark Ruffalo wraps on Thor: Ragnarok20:11 Suicide Squad Spoiler Free Review50:25 Suicide Squad Spoiler Review1:21:11 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:27:01 Letters It’s Time For LettersBuy Suicide Squad on Amazon: https://amzn.to/2ouuyA8Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesMr Sunday Movies YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/lB90W2The Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind our T-Shirts here: https://goo.gl/q6gE9C Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On May 10th, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes is coming to IMAX and theaters everywhere. What a wonderful day! This summer, one movie event will reign. It is our time. Apes hunt humans. That is wrong. Bend for your king.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Never. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Only in theaters May 10. Tickets on sale now. Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet, official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com where we talk movies, comics, TV shows, suicide squads, Mason. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday.
Starting point is 00:00:54 With me as always is Mason. We could talk about homicide squads as well. Could we? NYPD Blues. Oh, that's my favourite. Nah, I don't like any of that. Ah, you know, if it's on, I don't turn it off. Just like, let this roll.
Starting point is 00:01:04 That's how they get you. Yeah, that's right. That's how Special Victims Unit's been on for 47 years. It's because people go, I won't turn this off. Yeah, that's right, yeah. I love watching the results of horrifying violence unfold. Is this the one with Detective Gorin? It doesn't matter, I guess.
Starting point is 00:01:20 No, that's criminal intent. It is, I promise you. It does matter. It's criminal intent. All right. Do you want to get straight to the news? Straight to the news. But we also, of course, we're doing our monthly Loot Crate unboxing.
Starting point is 00:01:32 I've got it right here. You know, I never used to watch unboxing videos, right? And I still don't. But now when I see one, I'm like, what's in the Loot Crate? Exactly. And then I've got to click on it. You know the reason you don't click on Loot Crate unboxing videos? Because they distract you with the visuals You want an unboxing
Starting point is 00:01:49 That is just rustling You want some Tapping and rustling and then somebody going Oh it's a thing Yeah just a man struggling to open a pretty easy to open box How dare you Wait a minute right now While you're doing that I'll first put it in use
Starting point is 00:02:04 No no it's fine I just wanted to say I forgot because this one's been this one's been on the boil for a while we've had it here for a little bit yeah uh this one I can't remember what the theme is but basically it's Rick and Morty theme yeah if you bloody ask me I nearly gave my box away to my nephew as well wow Wow. I'm glad I didn't. You've had a few. Yeah. That's right. So Jimmy Smits has confirmed. From NYPD Blue. From NYPD.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Oh my God. He was. This is nuts. That's a, wow. Yeah, right? This shows just all sorts of magic. Yeah. He's confirmed that he will make an appearance in Rogue One.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Oh. There you go. So we've got. As Senator, what's his face? Bail Organa. There you go. He's got a little goatee. He's got a tunic. He's always like, I don't care for this Order 66 or whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:50 You watch that kid Jedi get shot. And what did he do? He flew away. Yeah, he did. What do you think about that? Love it. Love Jimmy Smits. Me too.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Yeah. Is there any more kind of prequel stuff that you'd like to see? Shield number was 3118. Is that true? It might have been. Okay, good stuff. Pretty close. Someone will know.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Someone will definitely know. Is there anyone else you want to see roll over? Because we're getting Darth Vader. We're getting Mon Mothma, who was in a deleted scene from episode three. How long do you think a Dexter Jetster lives? I think he's probably got a short lifespan. No. Oh, because he's so big. He's so big. He'd collapse under his own weight. It depends. I think he's probably got a short lifespan. No. Oh, because he's so big.
Starting point is 00:03:26 He's so big. He'd collapse under his own weight. It depends. How many hearts has he got? He could have like 10 hearts. And he's in that diner a lot. Yeah. Maybe one goes to heart disease
Starting point is 00:03:34 every couple of decades. Right, right. Might still have a few left. Yeah, okay, fair enough. So you want to see Dexter Jetster? I want to see Dexter Jetster. That's parody number one. Would you want to see
Starting point is 00:03:42 the Emperor turn up as well? Maybe even in a hologram? Be like, it's me, I'm here. No? What's he going to do? You're doing it like he's a finger puppet. I'd like to see him in finger puppet form, yes. Sure, good, good.
Starting point is 00:03:57 What do you got? What's the first thing? Planet Express. I bloody miss Futurama, man. I know, right? We'll relive it. It's the Planet Express ship and you put it on your desk. It's a mini master vehicle.
Starting point is 00:04:07 That is cool. You know, I've got six episodes of that left. Yeah. And I haven't watched it because I'm like, when I watch this, there's no more Futurama. So it's been like two years that I just haven't watched it. I've got a lot of series like that. Okay. Cool, cool.
Starting point is 00:04:18 All Futurama? Yeah. Good, good. Wait, are you including like the Bender's Big Store? No, no. After that. This is when they started making actual episodes again. Oh, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:04:26 I have not watched those. It's okay. It's from memory, yeah. So it's the Red Dwarf X of Futurama. Yeah, I guess you could. So you didn't like the Bender's Big Score and all that? I did not like nor dislike them. There he is.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Yeah, there he is. Look, I've got some opinions later, but there's going to be many opinions when we get to the meat of this episode. So right now I'm going to have very little opinion. Okay, good. We can do that. I'd love to know how little of an opinion. This looks great, though.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Look, it's got that. It's a standee. I get it. Yeah, it's a standee, but it's got that cartoony sheen about it. But it's bloody real, man. It's bloody real. So speaking of opinions that you probably have little opinions on. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:07 The Dunkirk teaser, the Christopher Nolan war epic. Yep. Are you excited for seeing that movie? That's a good question. Here's the thing. Is it just a straight-ahead war movie? I believe so. There's no time travel or kind of mind-bending physics.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Then yes, it is because I would like to see what weird thing he gets slightly wrong and it upsets me for the whole movie because every single one of his movies has one of those little things and I'm like, I'm quite enjoying this. And then I go, oh, how would that, couldn't, why is that device going to microwave
Starting point is 00:05:40 all the water in Gotham City and drive me crazy? Wouldn't it just microwave all the water in everybody's bodies and they'd all die? I was about to ask, what's the example of the Batman drive everybody crazy? Wouldn't it just microwave all the water in everybody's bodies and they'd all die? Yes, I was about to ask, what's the example of the Batman McGids one? And you gave me that one.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Okay, so in The Prestige, it's the cloning machine. Spoiler alert, it's the cloning machine. It's the cloning machine. Why wouldn't you have a different solution to that? In Insomnia, it's Al Pacino, I believe. Yes. Memento doesn't have one. No, that's a fantastic movie.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Yeah, that one is, I'm going to say flawless. Please email in with your flaws in that movie so it can upset me. It upsets me that there's nothing that upsets me in that movie. What about Inception? I guess in Inception it is, why are they in such danger? Why wouldn't the flight attendant just wake them up? She's in on it. Because if they're in the dream and they die in the dream,
Starting point is 00:06:22 they die in real life. That's the... I don't know either Rick and Morty's got a great episode on that you know where they they do all the inceptioning speaking of
Starting point is 00:06:30 the tea Rick and Morty tea it's his bloody it's a schematic of his blaster no it's his portal gun his portal gun yeah yeah that's sweet
Starting point is 00:06:39 yeah good print I love the bloody see that's the thing I love the print and I love that I get the reference it's good right absolutely that's good I love the bloody... See, that's the thing. I love the print, and I love that I get the reference. It's good, right? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:06:48 That's a good one. Can't wait for it to come back. You're wearing a... You're actually wearing a level up. Yeah, they sent a t-shirt thing. Which is their, like, their sub... It's their sub line, which is just t-shirts, and it's the bloody... Because you mentioned it, so they sent it, and it's Voltron, and it's...
Starting point is 00:07:01 You know what I did? You can see it. Oh, it's not on the floor. I actually took off my t-shirt I was wearing and threw it on the floor. Somebody's, maybe it was me picking it up. No, it's floated off the ground. They're that good. No, that was the T-shirt I was wearing.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I ditched it. Oh, you ditched it. Okay. And then put the new one on. Wow. Yeah. But it tells you a little bit more. Do you remember the, I didn't like the Interstellar trailer because it was just corn and sadness and like stock footage maybe.
Starting point is 00:07:28 And eventually the movie was, it was corn and sadness and then just bookshelves. And Matt Damon. Surprise Matt Damon role. Yeah. I really liked it though. I really, to me, his movies are either good or great. Like there's nothing that I'm like, ugh, hate that one.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Probably the one I think I like the least is Insomnia and it might just be opportunity right yeah is is dunkirk i always wonder how nolan chooses the things that he does right right is this is this one he's written with his brother is this i couldn't tell you to be honest i know uh what's his brother jonathan nolan's doing uh the robot uh robot cowboy real steel he's doing the robot cowboy TV. Real Steel. He's doing Real Steel. No, he's doing the robot cowboy TV show. Westworld, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Which looks good. We talked about that trailer. It looks really good, yeah. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to that. What were we talking about? Oh, yeah, Dunkirk. So it's going to be a straight-ahead war movie. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Is there a Battle of Dunkirk? I believe so. I should have looked into this more. No. This is the kind of thing I used to know. Don't honour the brave men and women that lost their lives in presumably the Battle of Dunkirk. Just don't even worry about it, man.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I think it was something to do with a withdrawal from a particular region, from memory. I might be wrong. Dunkirk? Yeah, maybe. Okay, great. Good. Mason, if you'll allow me to, I'm going to circle back to Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Is that okay? Yeah, that's okay. The ABC president, Channing Dungy, says that he's had conversations... No, no. I apologize. That's just a man's name you're making fun of. Yes, it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:52 He said that they've had conversations about bringing Star Wars to TV. Does that excite you, that Star Wars will go to the TV, but it's at ABC where they do Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Agent Carter and the like? Is that what you want to see? Well, that's the thing. I have no... I don't know what... What has Star Trek been in...
Starting point is 00:09:09 Star Wars. Oh, Star Wars. Yeah. Lost my train of thought there. I was looking at the bloody... I'm looking at the bloody thing. I see what you're doing. There's a Star Trek thing in the magazine.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I know what a Star Trek is. All right. Star Wars, ABC, Agent Carter. Yeah, season one was good. I dropped right off season two and then they cancelled it. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. The new Ghost Riders hit a car. Remember they tried to get you back.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Stop trying to drag me back in. Every time, they're bloody... Patton Oswalt didn't get me back in. Ghost Rider in a car is not going to get me back in. It's Ghost Driver. You're right, it is. It's Ghost Driver. Yeah, yeah. Unless he's sitting on the roof of the car, that get me back in. It's ghost driver. You're right, it is. It's ghost driver. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Unless he's sitting on the roof of the car, that would count as riding. It's a saying. And he's got his bloody flaming chain through the steering wheel. Like that Mr. Beat episode. Yeah. Because ghost riding, like in a car, is where you get out of the car as it's rolling down the street. Oh, and you run next to it. And you sort of dance next to it.
Starting point is 00:10:04 You ghost ride and you whip. So if that's his move, maybe. Like they're like, I hear tale of the ghost rider. And they're just like, yeah, yeah, man. There he goes. There he goes. And he just slowly rolls past in the background. For me, I don't really want to see Star Wars on ABC.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I think there's more freedom. And also, do we want 23 episodes of Star Wars a year? I want to see like a solid 10 on Netflix. Yeah, and also think about the budget. Yeah, exactly. So, look, do it like I still rather see Netflix. But I'd imagine the reason they're having these conversations is because Disney owns ABC.
Starting point is 00:10:41 So, of course, they're going to have that like, what could your network do for this particular show? Like, I get it, but I don't necessarily want to see it. In this magazine, this is the Loot Crate magazine. I don't know what a magazine is, but go on. All right, go on, Crate. They've listed their eight favourite Rick and Morty worlds and realities. What's your favourite one?
Starting point is 00:10:57 Mine, I think, is the one that they turned into that weird... Cronenberg world? Yeah, the Cronenberg world. That's the real world. Yeah, and then they just abandoned it. That's my favorite one. Uh, I like the council of Rick's.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Yep. Oh, that's it. I like that weird fairy tale world. Remember that one when they have to get, and they get captured by the giants for, for murder. That's right.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Yeah. I really like that one. I don't know, man. I always enjoy a new, a new and wacky world. Yeah. They're good.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Yeah. All right, Mason, what have I got next? Did you say, ah, I forgot to tell you to take a look're good. Yeah, yeah. All right, Mason, what have I got next? Did you see... Oh, I forgot to tell you to take a look at this. We've got some Transformers images
Starting point is 00:11:30 this week, including Hot Rod, but not just like the car, like what he'll look like. But also the car? I don't know. Because normally they're like, get your first look at Bumblebee.
Starting point is 00:11:39 And then I'm like, I've seen the Chimera. Exactly. And you've seen Bumblebee. Yeah, exactly. It's a thing. And also, in the Transformers... This is for the Transformers 5. Yeah. In the chimera. Exactly. And you've seen Bumblebee. Yeah, exactly. It's a thing. And also, in the Transformers, this is for the Transformers 5.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Yeah. In the live action. The last night. Exactly. In the live action movies, if you're not Optimus Prime or Bumblebee, you all look the same. Yeah, that's right. They all look exactly the same. You're a red one, you're a blue one, you're a green one.
Starting point is 00:11:59 You're a red one, you're a blue one, and all the Decepticons are just kind of like exposed ribs and they're grey. They all look exactly the same and they transform into... It doesn't... Like, just show me what Hot Rod looks like. Yeah, yeah. Does he have the wing at the back? I couldn't even tell you. You can look it up just quickly, Mason.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Oh, jeez. But don't. I want you to look up this instead. Oh, jeez. They've got a new character called Squeaks. Okay. And... Is this going to be racist?
Starting point is 00:12:24 Sexist? I haven't heard the voice. Homophobic? I haven't heard the voice yet. It's going to be one of Sexist? I haven't heard the voice. Homophobic? I haven't heard the voice yet. It's going to be one of them. I think it's their BB-8, but it's a moped that turns into basically a droid that looks like it's being kicked in the head. Okay, Squeaks.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Transformers, here we go. Squeaks. Oh yeah, that's very BB-8. Yeah, that's how I say it. Has any of this got you back on board for Transformers? The last night! Well, I would say Hot Rod. Squeaks. Oh, yeah, that's very BB-8. Yeah, that's how I say it. Has any of this got you back on board for Transformers? The Last Knight! Well, I would say Hot Rod.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Right. Definitely not. What about if they brought in Rodimus Prime? What if we see Rodimus Prime? No, because that would be a leap ahead. That would mean that Optimus Prime would have to die again. Yep, exactly, and he's done it heaps already. In this actual series as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:07 But he dies in every series, but he's already had his bloody death. And then Shia LaBeouf became Rodimus Prime because he was the chosen one. That's true. You remember that? He's the chosen one now. I think it's Marky Mark, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:13:17 I guess it is, yeah. Or is he a scientist killing FBI agents in his front yard? Yeah, true. All right, here we go. It's a Transformer. Which one? Hot Rod?
Starting point is 00:13:28 Maybe. Yeah. Moving on. Okay. You know what they've done? You know Iron Man 3? I remember it. One of the Iron Man movies.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Yeah, yeah. He's got an armor called Hot Rod, which is the War Machine armor. It's all black, except it's got flames on the arms and the legs. Cool. It looks exactly like that. They've just stolen the design. It's black and it's got red on the arms and the legs oh it's exactly looks exactly like that they've just stolen the design it's black and it's got red on the forearms and the legs probably
Starting point is 00:13:50 ilm or whatever it's probably the same group of people yeah maybe and they're like no one will notice or care that's yeah they've probably just gotten the skeleton of the iron man suit and just taken the shell off a bit all right listen anyway great yeah great i love your enthusiasm open that box mate it's a little mega man it's a little mega man figurine thingy hang All right. Listen. Anyway, great. Yeah. Great. I love your enthusiasm. Open that box, mate. It's a little Mega Man figurine thingy. Hang on. I'm going to crack it open.
Starting point is 00:14:10 You're a fan of Mega Man? I was always terrible at them as a kid. They're so hard. They were very difficult. Yeah. Like opening this box. It's really difficult. God, man.
Starting point is 00:14:19 What's wrong with you? And it was always assumed you knew because all the bad guys were... What happened is you'd defeat the boss and you'd get their weapon and then you could use it to fight a different boss. And there was a very specific sequence that would make it really easy. Right, right. So you had to know it instinctively. Okay, sure.
Starting point is 00:14:37 There was like a wooden boss and then you'd steal the power. It's all wrapped up, hang on. Oh, God. That's radio. Beats an unboxing video though done it i got it's like it's making it's a very big man it's orange looks a bit like astro boy it's not astro boy i know that mason i said it looks like it a bit exclusive three inch mega man red variant figure listen i want to i that, so you have to give it to me. That's how it works. No.
Starting point is 00:15:08 If I want something that I don't have, I get it. You've probably got your own. I don't want that one. I want that one. Oh, you want very specifically the one that I've touched. Yes, that's right. Yeah. Mason, allow me to circle back to Star Wars if you don't mind.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Okay. Have you seen the picture of the new ship, the U-Wing? Yes, I have. What did you think of it? Again, speaking of just getting an old character model and stretching it, what they've done here is they've gotten the X-Wing and they've shortened the nose a whole bunch and they've gotten the front antennas and they've stretched them out real long
Starting point is 00:15:35 and they've gotten the wings and they've just sort of shrunk them down. It's a bit like a... I thought it was more like the Y-Wing. It's a bit like the Y-Wing. It's a bit like all of them, isn't it? Isn't it? Do you think it fits in that world, though? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:47 We actually saw this nearly over a year ago. Remember when they had that Rogue One teaser trailer? It's in that. It's in that, yeah. But we were all so excited about seeing it. We were all too excited. Yeah. And also, they didn't release that properly.
Starting point is 00:15:59 There's only been kind of leaked footage of it. So we didn't get it. What is that? Oh, it's the Enterprise's registry plaque. Can I have that? Yes. Where would I put it? I don't have a Starship.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Yes. It's one of those things you've got to hang on until you get a Starship. Oh, that's a good point. It's like you buy the rims of a Ferrari in the hope that you'll be a millionaire one day. That's true. Do you think that works out for a lot of people?
Starting point is 00:16:23 Yeah, definitely. A lot of people sell their Ferrari rim rooms on Craigslist, I think. Probably what's happening there. If I had a billion dollars, I would not buy a Ferrari. Huh. Because I'd just feel like somebody's going to scratch it just for no reason. Just be like, I'm not a cars guy. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And you're right that repairing a scratch on a Ferrari costs more than a billion dollars. So you'd lose your whole fortune. Good stuff. The launch point is the Live Long and Prosper. Very good. The Vulcan hand symbol. I know the symbol. Can you do it?
Starting point is 00:16:50 Yes. Me too. You can do it on both hands. You only need to do it on one. I'm doing it on both though. All right then. I just want you to double. You're a bit of an overachiever, are you?
Starting point is 00:16:57 That's right. Is that it? There's also variant cover because it's- Is that a comic? Yes, it is. Yes. Which you don't normally get in a Luke movies. No, it's... Is that a comic? Yes, it is. Which you don't normally get in a Luke movies. No, it's good. So this is 4001 AD.
Starting point is 00:17:09 This is set in the year 4001 AD. Thank you for the clarification. Where Japan is in space. Finally. Yeah. And that's the protector of Japan. What's his name? He's a robot.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I can't remember his name. I like his red arm. I like his top knot. Yes. All those things are good. He's great. Anyway, Valiant comics, they're name. I like his red arm. I like his top knot. Yes. All those things are good. He's great. Anyway, Valiant comics, they're great. Yeah, they are great.
Starting point is 00:17:29 We've talked about Valiant in the past. We're going to be getting a whole lot of Valiant movies over the next few years. We're going to get Harbinger. Yeah. We're going to get Bloodshot. And then we're going to team up for Harbinger Wars. Yeah. Good stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:40 One more bit of news, Mason. Okay, I'm ready. Mark Ruffalo has rapped on Thor Ragnarok. He's only done a month. Rapped Will Smith style? Yes, he has. It's really great. How do you think Mark Ruffalo would rap?
Starting point is 00:17:54 I'm a guy and watch me turn green. Here I go again. Like that. Yeah, like that. You've nailed it. Do you think I could be a professional rapper? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I bought all the equipment in the hope that I will be a professional rapper. Oh, that's what all this is for. That's what it's for. You're just biding your time with a podcast and your little YouTube thing. Wouldn't that be amazing? How many subscribers are you up to on YouTube? I've just crossed 600,000. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Imagine if you got to a million and all of a sudden all your things you've missed and all your, here's a trailer breakdown or whatever. They all just disappear. And it's just you in a dark room, like no lighting. And you've got a bandana on and a backwards baseball cap and you're rapping. Just freestyling. Just freestyling. Off the cuff into the mic.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Yeah. That's how I do it. So he was on the, he only filmed for a month though. Rye is the name of the samurai. Gotcha. Like the bread. Like the bread. Good.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Rai, Rai, Rai. How do you spell it? R-A-I, Rai. Not like the bread, then. Rai, yeah. Good stuff. What were we talking about? Month.
Starting point is 00:18:57 He only did a month, which makes me think he mustn't be in it that much in human form. Yeah, true. So a lot of... Well, I guess if they're doing a variation on planet hulk he's mostly i you know what i bet he is i bet there's a scene where he's in a cage he's in chains yeah and they're like we're gonna get you out of this and he's like i want to be in here yeah classic i'm a dangerous man i'm more dangerous to them. Now, listen up to this.
Starting point is 00:19:28 I will never do that again. I apologize to everybody. Great. Great. It's the best thing you've ever done. Quit your YouTube nonsense. At a million. Yeah, at a million.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Exactly. All right. I think that's the last bit of news. How do we do it? How do we always arrange this perfectly? I don't know. Maybe it's me. Answer, it's a coincidence. Okay. I didn't know how many we always arrange this perfectly? I don't know. Maybe it's me. It's a coincidence. I didn't know how
Starting point is 00:19:47 many things were in the box. I didn't. I generally have a rough idea. It's usually about six to eight so we can normally kind of
Starting point is 00:19:53 balance it pretty well. All right. Speaking of before we get into our suicide squad. Yep. Next month's loot crate is anti-hero.
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Starting point is 00:20:41 Yeah. Mason, can you believe Suicide Squad squad is upon us has been upon us it's done it's all news mate whoa what are we even doing here okay before we get into what you and i thought of it in particular uh it's looking to make uh possibly up to 150 million dollars in the u.s on its debut weekend seems like a lot enormous mason enormous money like conservatively probably around 130 to probably 140. If there's as many billboards in America as there are in Melbourne. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Like just, if there are as many billboards in all of America as there are just in Melbourne right now, they're going to do fine. Because every bus shelter, every building has a suicide squad. You know it. Yeah. Absolutely. And they just released that Skrillex song. Oh, Purple Lamborg Squad. You know it. Yeah. Absolutely. And they just released that Skrillex song. Oh, Purple Lamborghini. You know it, even though there's not a Purple Lamborghini in it.
Starting point is 00:21:30 There's not a Lamborghini. It's more a pinkish purple and it's not a Lamborghini. It's a kit car. Absolutely. It's a nice kit car. Yeah, it's fine, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, it's no Ferrari.
Starting point is 00:21:40 If I had to. That's how the Joker got started. He bought some Vader rimss that's the name of the company right and he slowly purchased the rest of the car and he put it together that's how that works good stuff uh so we're gonna go non-spoilers then spoilers can i say yeah before we get started so you know like a lot of movie reviewers we're on marvel's payroll correct so we tend to give marvel movies good reviews and DC movies bad reviews. Except for the Marvel movies we don't really like.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Yeah, exactly. So what I was thinking is that we should redress the balance by getting on DC's payroll. I feel that would be the quickest way. So what I've done is I've written some pull quotes for Suicide Squad. So DC, if you're listening, and I know you are, I've got three pull quotes. If you want to put them on your posters or whatever. That you're throwing around America. Yeah, right ahead okay here we go number one ready the best dc movie yet asterisk that's number one suicide squad exceeded my expectations
Starting point is 00:22:35 asterisk that's two uh number three dc's done it again astersterisk. Okay, DC, you can use those. Now stop listening. Things will work out for the best if you stop listening at this point. So from what I've gathered, Mason, you had a bad time? Well, do you want to know what happens after the asterisks? Please. We can do this organically. No, no.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Okay. The best DC movie yet, asterisk. If you don't count Man of Steel. I mean, technically you should because it's in that universe, but they didn't really build a shared universe yet. Like it wasn't set up for that. No, not as much. So it feels kind of like a separate movie.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Sure, yeah. I mean, so if you do count that, then it's not the best one. Gotcha. It's not as good. If we're including all like DC Vertigo properties that could potentially exist in this universe, I would go with The Losers. That's the best one.
Starting point is 00:23:27 That is a good one. And that could totally fit in. They could fit that in. Except Jeffrey Dean Morgan would have to be in both. You'd have to recast him. What about Watchmen? Oh, that's technically back in. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Anyway. Exceeded my expectations, asterisk. My expectations were in the toilet. So congratulations, DC. Your movie is better than a toilet that's three um uh three dc's done it again asterisk what specifically they've done is they've made a garbage movie with a couple of bright spots in it to make to trick us into thinking that this is a good movie but it's not a good movie uh and we're gonna have to wait if we
Starting point is 00:24:03 want to get the full movie we're gonna have to wait for the extended edition again. That's the asterisk. Yeah, that's the asterisk. Well, you know what, Mason? Yes. I had a fun time with this movie. That being said, I don't disagree with any of the things you've said. Look, I had an okay time with this movie,
Starting point is 00:24:18 but it is not a good movie. Yeah, look, I can't really argue with that. I would even say it's a better comic book movie than it is a movie. Ooh, good question. In terms of like the universe building, the characters we get and things like that. I think it's good at introducing a lot of characters, but it doesn't introduce them well and it doesn't utilize them well. Some more than others, I think.
Starting point is 00:24:40 I think there are exceptions. Some of the squad, I was like, what a waste. Others, really excited for. I thought when I released my review, I'm like, oh, this is, you know, I think people are going to be upset. But there are some people are losing their shit at this movie. Like, there is like, just like the critics are just like crazy negative on it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Not all. Look, I'm going to lay into it just because it's funny. Yeah, me too. Absolutely. That being said, for me, into it just because it's funny. Yeah, me too. Absolutely. That being said, for me, the saving grace of this movie was the characters, the plot, the editing, the motivations, the third act. Yeah. The weird musical cues. not of the movie but of the movie making process right that has resulted in this the lesson they've learned from batman v superman is to do something similar in this movie which is upsetting and if
Starting point is 00:25:36 they continue to do it oh you'll just keep saying i'll just keep saying because i have to keep saying we all have to keep saying them that's the that keep seeing them. We all have to keep seeing them. That's the thing. They're just going to keep making movies that are quite average. I'm going to keep seeing them. All right. Well, look, let's get into it. Yeah. What do you think the story was?
Starting point is 00:25:53 Oh, no. I've lost all my momentum. I was all mad and then you asked me the thing that you always ask and I always forget to think about. All right. So Amanda Waller. Oh, wait, no. Okay, so it's immediately post-Batman v. Superman. Yep.
Starting point is 00:26:08 And Superman's dead. Spoiler alert. Oh, yeah. No, it's fine. We've all seen it. Yeah. Yeah. And the government's wondering what they would do if another Superman showed up and he was
Starting point is 00:26:18 bad. What would they do? How would they stop that? So, Amanda Waller, the head of Argus, has decided to put together a team of superpowered people who could potentially stop a Superman. Yes. Who's an evil Superman. Do you think they could stop a Superman?
Starting point is 00:26:35 No, we should get into that. Some of them maybe, some of them not even good as cannon fodder. But that's the thing. It's because they're so underutilized in the movie. What I want with these characters is that i could believe that they could potentially like not one-on-one fight superman yeah but as a unit as a unit and like again it's the suicide squad yeah so you would assume some would be used as cannon fodder right but some of them the way they're used in this movie it's like they wouldn't even be good at that.
Starting point is 00:27:06 You know what I mean? We'll talk about it. We'll absolutely talk about it. So you summed it up. There's not really anything else to add. Oh, and then if something happens in Midway City, why don't we go and send in the Southside Squad? They have to get there, don't they?
Starting point is 00:27:17 Yeah, they do. As soon as they can and squad it up. Okay, well, look, this was my favourite part of the movie. Closing credits. Ha, ha, ha. I got them. No. Relentless soundtrack. Some of it I liked, but a lot of it also felt like you've just added this over a scene that
Starting point is 00:27:34 this song doesn't fit in. Like it was never intended to be here. Yeah. But no, I enjoyed the characters. Some more than others. Yep. I quite enjoyed Deadshot, Will Smith's Deadshot. And a lot of that was, I think, because we haven't seen Deadshot like that.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Not Deadshot. We haven't seen Will Smith like that in a while. Being himself. Yeah. And Will Smith being himself is very enjoyable. Look, I think he's very enjoyable, but I think at the same time, he just decided to Will Smith it. Yes. And I mean, you know, from a mainstream audience perspective, seeing Will Smith be Will Smith is good and profitable, presumably.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Right. But I think if your – again, here's the thing. If any of your – if your favourite character is any of the characters in Suicide Squad, you're kind of getting a raw deal. Unless it's Amanda Waller. I think Viola Davis is great as Amanda Waller in this. Yeah, yeah, okay, sure. I thought her motivations were a bit askew at times.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Oh, okay, well, from a writing perspective. But she was good. Yeah, I think the actor is very good as the character. I've actually been getting into how do you get a murder going. Yeah, me too. I've been watching it this week. We'll get to it. We'll get to it.
Starting point is 00:28:41 It's not the time, Mason. But yeah, Deadshot, it's just Will Smith being Will Smith. And it is a toned down version of the character. Yeah, and he it. We'll get to it. It's not the time, Mason. Okay. Yeah, Deadshot's just, it's just Will Smith being Will Smith. And it is a toned down version of the character. Yeah, and he doesn't, that's the thing, like if you love Deadshot,
Starting point is 00:28:50 like I feel he's a, like there's a lot of people I know who have, who read the Suicide Squad run from the very start, from like the late 80s, early 90s kind of run. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:00 And I reckon they'd be very disappointed by this portrayal because he doesn't have the death wish. Right, right. He's just kind of... So his motivation is, I've got a daughter that's not Willow Smith, so I want her to do well.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Yeah, that's right, yeah. I'm sure Willow Smith is lovely. I don't have the money to buy her a music career or a movie franchise. What can I do? What can he do? What did you think of Harley Quinn? She's pretty good in this. i was i i agree yep but i don't think but i don't think all the stuff that they brought over but but well i was gonna say her appearance it's like 50 but it's mostly but yeah but i feel like it
Starting point is 00:29:40 doesn't all translate well yeah okay or like the little kind of quips and jokes that she makes yeah she did a really good version that was pretty much lined up with the comic book character and more so the animated series and what we get in the arkham games yeah but i don't think that always works in live action yeah and also it seems to me like they've chopped a lot of stuff out of this yeah and yeah and so we'll get to that. Yes, we will. Yeah. And so maybe the character she was portraying doesn't exist like on screen anymore.
Starting point is 00:30:13 It's like half of what she brought to the table is gone. Absolutely. Yeah, and I can't really argue with that. I feel like they also changed her more from the comics where she's more reliant on the Joker and it's more of an abusive relationship. There are are elements of that but that more seemed like they kind of ruled together whereas in the comments he just treats her like shit and just back hands or whatever did you read the list of deleted scenes oh
Starting point is 00:30:35 yeah I'll go skip through it like the okay cool because a lot of them do so we'll get to we can probably get to it in spoilers but a lot of them do suggest that as filmed originally it was more of an abusive relations kind of thing absolutely but they've they've tweaked it a little bit and it's more like oh we're we're the king and queen of gotham crime or whatever right yeah yeah no i i can definitely say that and there was also though i read an article on buzzword it's like this is a terrible character in a terrible universe and she's the you know it's sexist and whatever whatever and look i'm sure all that is true But that is the way that character is. Yep.
Starting point is 00:31:06 And also, if you follow the arc of that character, she does emancipate herself from the Joker and becomes a character in her own right. Yeah. And I think this job better, this movie did a better job of kind of making her her own person than just a sidekick
Starting point is 00:31:18 than sometimes the comic books do. So I thought that article was a good kind of... Yeah, that's a good point. All right, so we've talked about Harley and Deadshot, so that's all the characters that were in this movie let's move on no two characters in the harley and deadshot show we have to talk about ricky flag no we don't look i thought he did an okay job oh wait no i i tell a lie there is a third character that comes to prominence at the towards the end everybody else, he's great. And we might save that.
Starting point is 00:31:45 We'll touch on him here, or her. There's only one moment, isn't there? We talked about it already in the squad. But I thought Rick Flag was fine. I thought he did less as it went along. He has an emotional moment in a bar that does not quite land. Yeah, uh-huh. That scene is really, it's supposed to be the turning point.
Starting point is 00:32:02 They chop fits out there. All sorts of stuff came out of that yeah absolutely but uh and see talking about talking about rick flag here's something that i was on the fence on initially i'm like oh this sort of works that we get so much backstory at the start yeah for a lot of these characters and we're supposed to buy into some relationships that already exist and initially i'm like well this is kind of like in the previous issue of Suicide Squad, these things happen. Okay, sure. But the same time later on, we have to buy into these relationships and these...
Starting point is 00:32:35 But I'm like, we've known these characters for 10 minutes. Yeah, yeah. How do we invest in these characters? Okay. I can't argue with that. I think, I was going to save this for later, but this is like a worse version of the Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah, it is. Yeah. yeah. How do we invest in these characters? Okay. I can't argue with that. I think, I was going to save this for later, but this is like a worse version of the Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, Ricky Flagg did a great job, didn't he? Sure. I want to talk about him a bit later in the editing because there's a very knowing tell on that guy where you can tell what scene was shot when. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:33:01 Yeah, yeah. Talk about later. It's here. Amanda Wallaby talked about yep viola davis is great she's horrible she's horrible but also she 100 believes what she's doing is for the right reasons absolutely and to do that she'll be you know and she's like she just looks like a regular person but she's clearly a psychopath yeah exactly yeah it's great and even like rick flaggs kind of caught off guard he's like well i heard that you were this terrible person and i didn't believe it but it turns out
Starting point is 00:33:29 you are a terrible person yeah captain boomerang i enjoyed i would have liked to have enjoyed him more though exactly look i think jai caught uh you know we've seen jai corny and stuff before that was bad terminator genesis is bad yeah He's good in this. He's clearly channeled his internal Australian bogan backpacking through Thailand. Like he's just dirty and aggro and just sinking titties. Bad facial hair. And he's just getting in people's faces. Violent.
Starting point is 00:33:59 And I like what we see of him, but he's barely in the movie. Yeah, unfortunately. I don't think this is a spoiler. Yeah. His name's Captain. Also, I was going to say, his track jacket says Captain on it. It took me a while because he's always moving about. For most of the movie, I thought it said Rip Curl,
Starting point is 00:34:16 which would have been great. That would have been the ultimate. Or if underneath he had a bintang singlet or something like that, that would have been the ultimate or if if he if he's an underneath he had like a bintang singlet or something like that that'd be great but like he's again his character name is captain boomerang yeah i'm pretty sure he throws three boomerangs in this really it might be four but i don't think we need he does use them up close that's the thing his name's not bloody ru radmold daggers is it it's captain boomerang and i want him to throw some boomerangs. Okay. He also uses one like a little camera,
Starting point is 00:34:48 Arkham style. Does that count? In the three? That's in the three. Okay. See, what I'm talking... Let's... Where's Killer Croc on that list?
Starting point is 00:34:55 I was going to... He was... He's not next. He can be next. Okay. There are... All the supporting characters, and by supporting characters,
Starting point is 00:35:02 I mean everybody who's not Harley or Deadshot have nothing to do in this movie. And they've all been given a little piece of busy work, a little odd job to do in this movie. So it doesn't seem like they've been completely useless the whole film. And one of them is Captain Boomerang, throws his little boomerang around a corner. It's got a camera on it. And they all gather around his iPhone. And they'll have a little bit of a squiz at what's happening around the corner and they're like
Starting point is 00:35:26 good good job captain boomerang because if you we got to the end of the movie and he hadn't done that we'd be like what does this character do yeah in fact i think if you polled people after this movie and said what's that guy do i think they'd be like does he stab people does he wildly swing not is he the knife guy he's the swing knives? Is he the knife guy? He's the knife guy. He's not the knife guy. He's the boomerang guy. They call him Boomer.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Imagine if you were watching the Avengers and Hawkeye shot four arrows. You'd be like. Look, less Hawkeyes, never a bad thing. He's good. He's good. That guy's good. Yeah. Killer Croc.
Starting point is 00:36:00 It's kind of a spoiler, so maybe we'll save it for later. He gets one little bit in the third act. He gets a little bit of a thing so he can say he did something. Otherwise, what did he do? Two things stood out for me. This is sort of minus spoilers, not really. One of them is he has a joke in the bar where he talks about how he's beautiful
Starting point is 00:36:16 and it just clunks. Like it does not work at all. And the last bit is just before he does the thing at the end and he does a weird little on his hands and knees run into the water. Yes, he does, yep. It's so weird, right? Yeah. But I didn't think he was particularly interesting or funny.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I thought he was more interesting at the start when he was kind of in his cage and everyone was terrified of him. When you brought him out, he didn't really kind of, he wasn't very animalistic. He's quite small as well. Yeah, he was quite small, yeah. I guess. They were going to use King Shark initially and do a big CGI character.
Starting point is 00:36:47 That would have been great. But they used Krook. Even just regular-sized guy, big paper mache shark head. Would have been better. Like the movie Frank? Yes. Yeah, I get you. Yeah, but look, I don't think any of these characters were bad, but underused.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I cannot argue with that. That's the thing for me the i i might as well i'll say you know the thing about the this movie that annoyed me is that all these characters have been added in tangentially right so they could be chopped out like there's more there's like everybody's like oh there's deleted scenes where you learn about the context of this character and there's deleted scenes where this happens but they've all been like they're so easily chopped out right they should have been integrated into the movie in a way that you couldn't chop them out.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Sure, yeah. Because if you can chop them out, what's the point of them being there in the first place? That's a really good point. Like, so. But then again, I feel like some of them were cut out and it's very noticeable. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:39 And, like, it kind of breaks the flow or leads you to go, what? Yeah. Yeah. Some people's motivations change from scene A to scene B. We'll get to that in spoilers. Because there was a scene A2 in the middle that got chopped out. Absolutely, there was.
Starting point is 00:37:53 What about El Diablo? He good. He was great. But that's kind of more of a spoiler thing we'll get to. But he started off as being kind of, I thought it was interesting because he's kind of very reluctant to get involved. And then he has a kind of a moment at the end, which I enjoy. Yeah. And also, you know what?
Starting point is 00:38:08 Actually, this movie, the trailer of this movie, pretty much, again, it's a trailer that when you think about it kind of shows you everything that happens in the movie. Yeah, I guess so. Maybe not the villain so much. Right. But the general plot. The general plot. It's kind of like they went, okay, fast forward 30 seconds, take a second, fast forward 30 seconds, take a second.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Right, right, yeah. And from that, the movie is kind of predictable, and I would have thought, based on the trailer, that El Diablo's power is he just shoots flames out of his hands. Right. But there's more to it than that. And it's pretty great. It's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Yeah. Slipknot? New favourite character. We'll get to that. Yep. Katana, I really liked. Barely in the movie. Barely in the movie.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Yeah. Russ up some people in Japan or whatever. What an interesting character. Especially because she is kind of like on Rick Flag's side where she's not a criminal. She's been brought in to keep them in check. But she only kind of does it once. Yep.
Starting point is 00:39:15 And also you don't even see her sword steal a soul. And you see it in the trailer. Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, so that's annoying. Okay, here's one thing that I did like about this movie. Right. It's that they finally took the training wheels off the DC Universe kind of thing. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Because in the first one, in Man of Steel, it's basically like, okay, it's basically the regular world and now Superman shows up and there's some aliens and now we're back to the regular world. Yeah. And Superman's in it. And in the second one, they're like, okay, well, here's, you know, here's- Here's an email attachment. Here's an email attachment and here's an email attachment
Starting point is 00:39:45 and here's some video clips and here's some maybe there's some other weird stuff that happened in the dc universe and in this one they're like okay there's crocodile men and cursed swords and witches and there's the joker drives around in a joker mobile like the joker from super friends everything's been crazy for 20 years yeah Surprise. Yeah, I enjoyed that. But you think it wasn't a slow build? No, I think there wasn't enough of it. Oh, okay. I think they went, surprise, here's all this crazy stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Now here's some fight scenes that are okay. See, I really enjoyed how they, yeah, the fight scenes, yeah. I thought, after I came out, I'm like, those fight scenes were pretty good. But then I think back and I'm like, I don't remember anything specific about them. Because there was nothing specific about them. Yeah, except I guess the last one, but in a bad way. Yeah. Except for there's one bit that I really enjoyed.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Yeah. Not bad, just kind of, are we doing the blue light in the sky again? Are we doing that? It was a bit Ghostbusters. Yeah. 80s Ghostbusters. It was a bit everything. Yeah. You know what's going to be the problem in 20 years when people go back and watch all these movies you're not really going to be sure what year each one
Starting point is 00:40:50 came out right and people are going to be like who started this blue light shit that's been in every yeah yeah movie yeah now there'll be a there'll be an oral history of it there'll be there'll be one person a historian yeah who's seen them all and he knows i don't think people the people at dc either it started with chain reaction with kiana reeves it's gonna be me absolutely i i don't think that dc because before when batman superman came out they're like ours are more a cerebral kind of universe than the marvel than the marvel world but then you put in a horde of faceless enemies and a blue light in the sky, you cannot say that anymore.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Right, that's true. You've copied and pasted something that Marvel have done too much, by the way. Yeah. Too much of that. Agreed. So, yeah. Again, it was a pretty mediocre kind of...
Starting point is 00:41:38 All right. You got any characters left on that list? That's the thing, Mason. The Joker. And when I was writing this up, I nearly left him out. Right. Just like the movie. Oh, Enchantress? Did you put Enchantress? Enchantress as well, but that's more of's the thing, Mason. The Joker. And when I was writing this up, I nearly left him out. Right. Just like the movie.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Enchantress? Did you put Enchantress? Enchantress as well, but that's more of a spoiler thing as well. Yeah, spoiler, okay, yeah, yeah. But the Joker, I can't form an opinion about him because I don't know what to do with it.
Starting point is 00:41:58 We've had a year of people going, of Jared Leto going, okay, and he stayed in character the whole time. He never broke character, and he watched hundreds of hours of real violent videos on YouTube, and he sent- He's sending condoms and rats. He sent horrible things to all his fellow cast members, and they were on edge.
Starting point is 00:42:18 They didn't know what to think. Guess what? He was in the movie for 10 minutes. You know what else you could have done? Instead of doing all this stuff, you could have come out of here and make up, Jared. You could have stood on the little X made of duct tape on the set. You could have said your lines and then you could have gone and cashed your check. Because who cares?
Starting point is 00:42:33 But you know what, though? He's quite annoying. I've heard, yeah. Because I've seen an interview of him and they're like, what happened to the Joker? And he's like, yeah, good question. Yeah. What happened to the Joker? And we'll talk about the editing probably more.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Yeah, boy, will we? Because there's some behind the scenes. And I guess if he's in the next Batman movie or the next couple, then maybe this process will come to fruition. I'm not completely down on him. I don't think it's his fault. Sure. I just think he got completely screwed.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Yeah, right. And he'd be unhappy about that, I'd imagine. You'd think he'd want more Joker in this. Absolutely, he would. Apart from Harley Quinn, he'd be unhappy about that, I'd imagine. You'd think he'd want more Joker in this. Absolutely, he would. Because that's, apart from Harley Quinn, he's the most recognizable character. There's a point in the movie where he disappears. Yeah. And again, you could cut him out, as you were talking about, and he wouldn't really impact
Starting point is 00:43:16 the plot. That's true. Yeah. I mean, other than doing the Harley Quinn origin, which I quite enjoyed. That was actually the favorite, my favorite parts of the Joker was seeing them together and seeing him slowly manipulate her and they're doing the scenes together where she's trying to psychiatrist him.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Yeah, but I feel there wasn't enough of that. Do you think that relies on people knowing that universe to enjoy that? Yeah, kind of. And I also think maybe that could have been given its own movie. Oh, definitely. Definitely. But now can you do that again? Yeah, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:43:45 It's a good question. Do you get those? I think if you did a Joker and Harley movie, you could kind of do it in two components. Yeah. Where you have it with flashbacks or whatever. One is origin, one is her kind of breaking away or whatever. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:43:58 I think it could work. Yeah. But see, I didn't even mind the look of him. It kind of works when it's a movie. Yeah. I like the aesthetic. I like his little tuxedos. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:06 I was going to ask you, what do you think of the clothes? I like them. They're good. Look, I'm not a... White tuxedo, the best one. Yeah. I'm not a massive fan of all the tattoos, but I feel like when it's in motion, you don't really notice it.
Starting point is 00:44:19 That's true, yeah. It's all part of the character. He's this kind of crime lord. Yeah. Well, see, I know some people on Twitter who kind of objected to the idea that he's a mob boss in this kind of thing. Right. But I kind of, I am willing to give him that in the sense of like, maybe that's just what
Starting point is 00:44:32 he's doing now. Yeah, exactly. Like he's decided to try his hand at running Gotham's underworld or whatever. And he has done that as well. Yeah, that's true. I mean, depending on what version of it. So I wouldn't say, I'm only disappointed from the perspective of I don't really know
Starting point is 00:44:46 what he is about entirely. Except that he likes Harley quite a bit and he loves helicopters. Sure, yeah. And suits. And switching out a suit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:56 He must be like, he's sunk into that role for like six months. Yeah. And they just... Man. Do you think they're going to recast? Let's say they go, okay, do you want to be in the next Batman movie?
Starting point is 00:45:09 Do you think he's signed on already? Oh, definitely, yeah. If you're the Joker, do you think he's going to try and get out of it? See, that's a really good question. Okay, do you want to talk spoilers? Sure. Because I feel like everything else I want to say is... Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Actually, before we do spoilers, I just want to talk about the fight sequences. if we're gonna before we do spoilers i just want to talk about the fight sequences right as we mentioned it briefly uh they're no good i wouldn't even say they're no good i think there's some good kind of on the ground kind of kicky punchy but that's that's the thing they're not kicky they're not kicky punchy shooty people yeah they're super villains a little actually here's another thing that I will give this movie credit for. It's the first, I think, DCU MCU movie that's had super criminals in it. Yes. Because the rest of them, they're always space conquerors or they're terrorists or they're whatever. This is the first one where it's just, I've got superpowers and I use them to rob people.
Starting point is 00:46:03 So, full credit to that. What The Flash has been doing for like three years exactly yeah good for putting in the movie but anyway i feel the fight sequences are kind of like the script must have just read a whole bunch of mud zombie men show up and there's a big fight and everybody fights that's it it's that's all it says and then david a just looked at and went yeah, we'll do it on the day. And then they showed up on the day and he went, okay, if you've got a gun, fire the gun. If you don't, just flail your weapons around and we'll fix it in post. You know what?
Starting point is 00:46:34 You're right. Dead Shot is known for trick shots. He does one trick shot in this movie. And I feel like that scene was added. Yeah, right? I might be wrong, but I didn't see any of that in any of the other trailers except after they did the reshoots. And again, in these action sequences, Deadshot gets like a highlight scene.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Like he gets the thing where he stands on top of the car. Yes. And he's shooting away. That was good. And it looks pretty good. But anybody could stand up there and do that no but so that's like it's kind of fun that he he's one shot one kill with everybody right because that's his thing yeah there was no trick shots no like in what is in arkham origins the game yeah we get dead shot
Starting point is 00:47:18 and he shoots down a helicopter and kills somebody else with a ricochet and he makes it look like somebody else did the shooting yes that's yeah that's kind of what i was the bullet yeah that's what i kind of what i was hoping for like a super like a series of elaborate yeah but we didn't get any of that that's a really good point we got we got he he's a good shot that's fine okay he's a pretty good shot that's what they should have called it's a pretty good shot everybody in these movies is a good shot yeah you're right yeah and and then again he got this highlight bit and everybody else is just on the ground scrapping scrapping yeah give me
Starting point is 00:47:49 captain boom what kind of special boomerangs does he have he's got two he's got regular boomerang he's got camera boomerang that's what he well he only had three boomerangs he has to hang on to them doesn't he yeah yeah all right all right well let's rate it okay before we get into it uh worst movie ever i'm'm going to say best. I completely understand where you're coming from. I understand the flaws. It's broken in so many ways, but I did find myself enjoying it. That being said, it's kind of a disappointment because it should be so much better.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Exactly. That's what I'm talking about. But that being said, I walked out going, yeah. And if we can go straight into spoilers, people are probably to go well just wait for the extended edition wait for the extended it's gonna have all more action and more more context for all the various emotional roller coasters everyone i'm not gonna wait for it because this is what i'm talking about the thing they've learned from batman v superman is yeah give us some what they've done is they've gone okay we'll write a three hour script that cannot be shown theatrically we'll chop pieces out chop pieces out of it
Starting point is 00:48:52 so it makes no sense to theatrical film goers and then we'll sell them the version that makes sense later on so they have to buy the home version yeah because because otherwise we they won't know the context i think the process behind this is- That's garbage. Yeah, I completely agree. I think the process behind this is a little bit different, but with that mindset. I think they had a near-completed film. This is the rumor.
Starting point is 00:49:13 David Ayo had his more serious cut. They brought out the trailer with the Queen song, Bohemian Rhapsody, which is an amazing trailer. And then they went, shit, everyone's really responding to this in the lighter tone they think it's going to be this good fun time let's reshoot a bunch of scenes so then they had two cuts one this is all rumor one that was on may 10th kingdom of the planet of the apes is coming to imX and theaters everywhere. What a wonderful day! This summer, one movie event will reign. It is our time.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Apes hunt humans. That is wrong. Bend for your king. Never. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Only in theaters May 10th. Tickets on sale now. The studio that cut the trailer together.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Trailer Park. You know this already. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's people who don't know, I guess. They had that version, they had Ayer's version, and then they kind of melded them together into what this became. Yeah. And it really shows.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but see, that's the thing. I would want to see just David Ayer's serious Yeah. Yeah, but see, that's the thing. Like, I think... I would want to see just David Ayer's serious version. Okay, sure. That's what I'd rather see. Or am interested to see, I should say.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Yeah. I'd rather see a script that was two hours long filmed as two hours. It's kind of what I'd like. Yeah, but I think it was... I think the reaction of Batman and Superman caught them off guard. Yeah. And they went it was, I think the reaction of Batman Superman caught them off guard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:46 And they went, what didn't work? What didn't people like about Batman Superman? Oh, they thought it was too serious. Yeah. There wasn't enough gags. I guess this was- Let's just change all that. This one was still in, this was in production as-
Starting point is 00:50:56 Yeah. So I guess they didn't have a chance. So maybe Justice League is the one where they'll finally get the balance right. Maybe. Yeah. I mean, but Justice League is, I would say at least over halfway filmed by the time this has come out. Well, it's time for reshoots then, isn't it? Time to get those trailer park boys, get them on board, hey?
Starting point is 00:51:13 Yeah, what worries me about Justice League, though, is looking at the way this turned out, is that somebody has, like, got Zack Snyder by the throat and make a Marvel version of these characters. Okay. But I hope not. Yeah. I want it to be good, but I, who knows?
Starting point is 00:51:30 Yeah. Again, didn't hate it. Editing. Yes. Rick Flag's hair changes length. He's got three hair lengths. Oh, really? Wow.
Starting point is 00:51:37 At the start, he's got longer swept back hair. Yeah. He's got a crew cut. And in between the bits in the city, his hair grows about an inch and then it goes back and forth. And at the end, he's got the longer hair again. Maybe it's stress. It could be stress.
Starting point is 00:51:49 And look, I could buy that at the start, that was set a long time. They assembled the team and then they sat on him for a while and he got a haircut. And then at the end, when he goes to- Can't believe you're no-prizing his hair length. I know, right? But you know when he goes to Will Smith's apartment, let's just call him Will Smith, then his hair's longer again. Maybe that was months later and they kind of had to clear a whole lot of red tape.
Starting point is 00:52:09 But then again, the daughter wasn't that much older. That's true. She looked like she hadn't aged at all. They should have coordinated her haircut with Rick Flagg's haircut. That's right. You know what though? Yeah. Batman was amazing.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Pretty good. Sure, yeah. Pretty good or amazing? was amazing. Pretty good, sure, yeah. Pretty good or amazing? I don't feel that he had enough time to be amazing in this movie. See, I thought this was the most accurate version
Starting point is 00:52:32 of Batman we've ever seen on film. That might be true. He doesn't kill anybody. He doesn't fire a gun. He didn't have a chance to kill anybody. Not enough time. Have we talked about my robot theory? That Batman's a robot?
Starting point is 00:52:42 Oh, that all the people We talked about it on the commentary when we did the Batman movie. Do we talk about it on the podcast though? Potentially not. Okay, that all the people eat people robots. We talked about it in the commentary when we did the Batman V Superman. Do we talk about it on the podcast though? Potentially not. Okay, that's right. Do you want to get into it?
Starting point is 00:52:49 Well, I was going to say if you haven't listened to our Batman V Superman commentary first of all, it's very good. People seem to enjoy it. But I was going to say DC, if you are listening even though I told you
Starting point is 00:52:59 to stop listening earlier the best way to get around it and it seems dumb on paper is you just say that all the people he killed in batman v superman were robots and i know it that doesn't make any sense because why would there be so many robots but they're all lex corp employees so you just have you just have a scene where lex luther's in arkham yeah andan Mulvey's character, who we know is dead, shows up and tries to rescue him. Batman shows up, snaps his neck,
Starting point is 00:53:28 and then the warden or whoever's like, how does he inspire such loyalty? And Batman's like, he doesn't, it's a robot. And he just takes the face off. Do you think we're here in that universe yet where there are lifelike people robots? I think Marvel can do it. Well, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Sorry? Marvel can do it well that's the thing sorry Marvel can do it because they've got LMDs they've got LMDs and they don't have to be able to do like live their lives they just have to be
Starting point is 00:53:51 fighting robots and then you just cut to like a flashback montage of every time he's bearing down on some people he's about to kill you cut to his heads up display
Starting point is 00:53:59 and there's like an x-ray and they're robots and it's like the Arkham x-ray exactly he's got his detective vision I think they're just going to move forward yeah I think they're robots and it's like the arkham x-ray exactly he's got his detective vision i think they're just gonna move forward yeah i think they're probably gonna do that i'm just saying ben affleck if you want to make it good if you want if you want me to
Starting point is 00:54:12 know it makes sense make them robots do you think ben affleck seeing the because he he dodged like he endured critical panning for years he dug himself out of that like personally yeah by making some amazing movies and then turning in some amazing performances and now he's in this franchise which look a lot of people like and like i said i did enjoy this movie but it is getting absolutely crushed critically do you reckon he's like what have i committed to like there's been three oh that's a good point and i'm actor ben affleck and director ben affleck. Right. And I'm stuck in this universe. I think what he's probably done is he's gone to his agent
Starting point is 00:54:50 and he's gone to DC and said, I want 100% creative control over this. Yeah, and he should get 100% creative control. I think he's like, this could make me the laughingstock of Hollywood if I have to do this again. Yeah, three more movies. I'm going to take the script and I'm going to give it to Kevin Smith and I'm going to give it to Jeff Johns
Starting point is 00:55:13 and I'm going to give it to... Kevin Smith loved this. I'm not going to give it to Kevin Smith. I'm going to give it to some other people. Or, you know, just go... You know, some people I trust trust and say go through this with a fine-tooth comb find any inconsistencies anything dumb and also you're going to be on set and you're going to watch it and you're going to approve all the changes and and i'll get final edit yeah
Starting point is 00:55:39 exactly that kind of thing yeah well look i hope so you know what that that would be when i i would completely lose faith in this universe. If Ben Affleck makes a solo Batman movie and it's just him and it's shit, or even as good as this, I'll be like, no, I can't. It needs to be better than what it's currently. Again, I feel like I'm stressing this too much that I didn't hate it. It should be better. It should be better.
Starting point is 00:56:01 It should have been a spectacular. But for me, I'm like, that happened in the trailer, that happened in the trailer. This fight sequence isn't particularly exciting. Oh, the movie's over. That being said, I did like Ben Affleck in this. Also, I did appreciate that it's the first re-teaming of Ben Affleck and Will Smith since Jersey Girl. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:56:20 They're back on screen together. They get a moment. That's a scene I really liked. Yeah. When the daughter steps in front of him and he's like... I thought you meant in Jersey moment. That's a scene I really liked. Yeah. When the daughter steps in front of him and he's like. I thought you meant a Jersey girl. Yeah, I guess that's it. They're in a waiting room.
Starting point is 00:56:29 It's fine, I guess. But no, I really liked that scene. Yeah. I thought that was really, really powerful. And it also, it was good because, I actually did like that fight sequence because Deadshot doesn't just completely roll over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:43 But also there's a justification why he wouldn't just... Like, if there's anybody who would be able to get through that suit, it'd be Deadshot because he'd just shoot him in the mouth. Yeah, that's right. Exactly. And the only reason he doesn't is because the daughter steps in. That's right. Also, isn't it in the comics he's got some kind of psychological thing
Starting point is 00:57:00 where he cannot shoot or kill Batman? Yeah. Because Batman's thumped him so many times. That's in my Easter egg video, Mason. Get into it. You don't have to get into it, but get into it. I will or I won't. No, so I really enjoyed Batman.
Starting point is 00:57:12 The post-credits scene was redundant. Look, kind of. It is redundant because we know that Batman's already forming the Justice League, but it does give us some information. Because he said that in the last movie? Yes. And in the trailer that we information. Because he said that in the last movie. Yes. And in the trailer that we saw before Suicide Squad came out.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Yes, exactly. But it does point out that Amanda Waller and Bruce Wayne are aware of each other. Yeah. Like, personally, Amanda Waller does know that he's Batman. Yes. Batman, Bruce Wayne knows that she's Argus and she's put the Suicide Squad together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:47 He knows what they've been up to. I think a larger question is where was he? Why was he not in Midway City stopping this? Yeah, where were any of them? That's true. Yeah. Superman was dead. Yeah, but where's the Flash?
Starting point is 00:57:58 Yeah, I don't know. We saw him. That's a good question. That's what I loved. He's only in it for like two seconds. Uh-huh. The Flash looks great. He does look great.
Starting point is 00:58:04 He looks great, right? Is that just me? No, it's good. Oh, man. only in it for like two seconds. The Flash looks great. He does look great. He looks great, right? Is that just me? No, it's good. Oh, man. It was really good to see him. See, that's why I would like a solo Flash movie with the rogues. We bring back Captain Boomerang. Yep.
Starting point is 00:58:15 We bring in all the greats. Weather Wizard. Turtle Man. Captain Cold. Turtle Man. Mirror Master. Yeah. Trickster.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Trickster. The Mark Hamill version. With Mark Hamill as the Trickster. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so it brings the two characters together. We know they know each other. I do wonder why she is going to Bruce Wayne for protection, though. What has he got?
Starting point is 00:58:39 Well, she knows who he is. Oh, that's true. Okay. So he's got resources. So I guess he has gone into that meeting knowing that she knows. Yeah, because he wasn't shocked. That's true okay so she's you know he's got resources so i guess he is he's gone into that meeting knowing that she knows yeah because he wasn't shocked that's true i mean he knows that she's not an idiot i did actually see that i did like the scene in in the sense that affleck affleck played it really well he's great that's so good i know right yeah that's what i'm saying
Starting point is 00:59:00 he's like she's like stop working nights and he's like shut up i will destroy you so i thought that was pretty good and that plays off from the comic because they they do not like each other like at all like they've got similar goals but they've just got completely different methods well similar ish yeah they both like kicking people a lot or getting other people to kick people yeah uh the song choices this is kind of off topic yeah the watchtower open with the watchtower I was like that's pretty bloody good man also I endured
Starting point is 00:59:28 a five minute Dolby Atmos presentation it's like this is the best sound you'll ever hear you've seen movies before but you're an idiot because this is the best sound
Starting point is 00:59:38 you'll ever hear yeah you dickhead and then it started and the sound cut out the picture cut out nice also you'll be happy to know because I went to the screening,
Starting point is 00:59:47 I booed because I know you normally boo. But I couldn't make it to this one. You couldn't make it, so I stepped in and I booed for you. Thank you. I love it. Yeah, so we got that. We got House of the Rising Sun initially, which is good. Oh, that's what it was.
Starting point is 01:00:00 What did I say? I said Watchtower. You said all along Watchtower, yeah. Is that it as well? Yeah, I think it was okay anyway go on there's so many
Starting point is 01:00:06 they just just jam them in there yeah but they were like yeah so House of the Rising Sun but I saw it at the regular cinema
Starting point is 01:00:13 and we'd already seen a preview for Magnificent Seven which also used House of the Rising Sun and I think at that point the audience that I saw it with
Starting point is 01:00:20 were kind of sick of that song like you could they went like a lot of people you could just feel them go again. Bad points in this, that Eminem song.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Yeah. The worst Eminem song there is, I feel. Also, because that's the moment where he dresses as a superhero. That is the one. What's that one called? Without Me. That's right, yeah. He's no Mark Ruffalo as a rapper.
Starting point is 01:00:42 No, certainly not. That's his original prankster oh it is isn't it yeah that's true yeah uh so did you so you mentioned
Starting point is 01:00:51 deleted scenes yeah is there any in particular oh hang on let's have a look I'll check the bloody check the bloody list this is from reddit so who knows
Starting point is 01:00:57 yeah you can kind of tell from the trailers that's true you can there's so much stuff I mean there's when the Joker disappears yeah
Starting point is 01:01:04 when the helicopter disappears. Yeah. When the helicopter. Okay. So apparently in the original version, before they refilmed it, the Joker pushes Harley out of the helicopter. Okay. Like. Isn't that what he did? No, doesn't he do it?
Starting point is 01:01:15 I thought he did it to save her. He does it to save her. But in this, I think he shoves her as like, I don't want you in here. Get out. And then it's shot down. Hang on. Just double check. Also, how many helicopters got shot down in this?
Starting point is 01:01:25 Three? The one the squad's on? Yeah. How did that one go down? The bad guy. We didn't even talk about the bad guy. Yeah. Who's called Incubus, apparently.
Starting point is 01:01:38 I left that out of my review because I forgot. He blasted down. Yeah. See, I didn't even pick up on that when I saw it. That villain design looks very good. The special effects is a bit... Yeah, I'm okay with it. But i didn't even pick up on that when i saw the design looks very good the special effects is a bit it's a bit yeah but i didn't mind yeah i didn't mind uh joker and harley get into an argument after he rescues her in early cuts he reportedly pushes her out to kill her then the helicopter gets shot down right see and there's later in the in one of the trailers you
Starting point is 01:01:59 see him turn up and half his face is kind of burnt yeah that's true he pulls a pin what i thought he was going to turn up towards the end and do something to grab Harley and intervene and kind of help but have his own agenda. Yeah. That's what I wanted him to do. Or they could have just made him the villain. Right, exactly. Like they did in Assault on Arkham.
Starting point is 01:02:18 They could have given him the totem or the heart. Yeah. We're going to talk about that? Oh, we're talking about the heart. Okay, right. Let's talk about the villain first. What did you think of the Enchantress? You're good.
Starting point is 01:02:28 What? No, like not. What about this? Oh, her being flippity-floppity. Look, she was fine. It's not really the kind of villain that the Suicide Squad should be fighting. But you know what? To be fair, their role wasn't to go up against the Enchantress.
Starting point is 01:02:44 It was to get Amanda Waller. Right. That was, it was like, this is an extraction mission. I like that twist. I know you hated it. How do you know I hated it? I saw your review. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Yeah, because I thought it was going to be somebody interesting in the bunker. Right. And I'm not saying- Who could it have been though? Jimmy Olsen. He's still alive. I wanted to be surprised. And it was just Amanda Waller.
Starting point is 01:03:02 I thought maybe they had to pull out the Joker for whatever reason. That was a little bit confusing because I assumed she would be back in Washington DC right right I assumed that's where the situation room was yeah there you go so it took me a minute to adjust then I'm like oh it's in this okay right yeah I just thought that was a little disappointing okay yeah I thought oh we're gonna get something like a real twist here but yeah uh yeah okay so Enchantress as a villain let me think I thought she was more interesting until
Starting point is 01:03:27 there's nothing you know what I can't think of anything because there's nothing to think about let's talk about the heart okay I think you've
Starting point is 01:03:34 I think you've been misled here look I'm happy to put the boot into this movie where it's deserved and I will do that and continue to do that but you're saying that the
Starting point is 01:03:42 because Amanda Waller had the heart she could have killed her at any moment. Yes. I don't think she could have. Why not? Because she tries to do it initially. Like when Enchantress escapes, she infects the other guy,
Starting point is 01:03:54 turns him into the Incubus, the brother. Yeah. And then Enchantress goes to find him again. Amanda Waller goes to crush the heart. Then the Incubus guy grabs her and, like, repowers her. Right. So you think that strengthened the heart? I think at that point she couldn't be killed until the brothers Holden
Starting point is 01:04:13 and her disappeared. Right. Because you see Amanda Waller try and kill her. See, I thought she's just stabbing at it with a little pen. Yep. Just take, like, a rock and just shoot at it or something. No, I see what you're saying but I don't think that would have worked
Starting point is 01:04:26 until the end okay well maybe they should have shown that yeah that's true yeah yeah because yeah there should have been a moment where she's like
Starting point is 01:04:32 it's not working yeah because or the heart just regenerates again maybe they cut it out maybe they probably bloody cut it out wouldn't they
Starting point is 01:04:39 bloody cut it out but then so then at the end and then at the end Harley cuts her heart out and then they can't find it for a minute until Captain Boomerang, oh, there's the thing Captain Boomerang does.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Yeah. He finds the heart. Yes, he does. And. Yes. What does he do? His character motivation, I did not buy at all.
Starting point is 01:04:56 He had a great moment in the bar where they're like, listen, I'm going to shut off. I'm breaking my phone. So I'm not going to detonate any bombs in your head. And Captain Boomerang just gathers up his beer and he bolts. Yeah, that was great. And I'm like, that so I'm not going to detonate any bombs in your head and Captain Boomerang just gathers up his beer and he bolts
Starting point is 01:05:07 and I'm like that's great and then 10 seconds later they're walking down the street and he just kind of sidles up into the group even have a cut of him drinking beer
Starting point is 01:05:16 and he's just like fuck it and he just rejoins but he just kind of goes back in the line that's what I was going to say we can get back to
Starting point is 01:05:24 we should get back to we can we should get back to character motivations in a second it disappointed me again because he didn't have any novelty boomerangs he should have had novelty boomerangs tons of them too many um we should have been spoiled for choice would have been spoiled for choice there wasn't even the moment where he throws the boomerang somebody goes you missed and then it hits him in the back you hate that though no but here's the thing you do a funny little twist on it he throws the boomerang somebody goes you missed and then it hits him in the back you hate that though no but here's the thing you do a funny little twist on it he throws the boomerang the bad guy the opponent goes you missed and dead and the captain boomerang's like did i and there's a beat and you hear the boomerang like fall into the water and hear a splash and then it cuts back
Starting point is 01:06:02 to boomerang he's like, I'm really drunk. I'm so drunk. That would have been amazing. Would have worked. Ben Affleck, when you do your Captain Boomerang solo movie, let me see the script. Let me see the script. Oh, your character motivations.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Don't buy that one. Yep. Buy Deadshots, obviously, because he's got the daughter. That's fine. I buy El Diablo. Should we talk about El Diablo? Yeah, let's talk about him. Great daughter. That's fine. I buy El Diablo. Should we talk about El Diablo? Yeah, let's talk about him. Great.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Really good. Yep. I love his demon form. So good. I love how he- Didn't know that's what it was going to be. Me neither. I love how he's a blam.
Starting point is 01:06:33 And he rears up and he puts his hand on Incubus' chest and he just melts right through it. But you see him kind of fading as he's doing it, like he's going out. And when he's like, I'm 100% in this, and his head turns into the ram skull thing, I'm like, that's good. So good. Yeah. If only all the characters were like that.
Starting point is 01:06:53 But they're not, Mason. They're not. They're bad characters. They're bad just sketches. What about Slipknot? Yeah, he's good, isn't he? I'm going to recall this over a year ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:03 The first one to go. First one to go, yeah. But I enjoyed it. I knew it was coming. a year ago. Yeah. The first one to go. First one to go, yeah. But I enjoyed it. I knew it was coming. I predicted, like, to the second when it was going to happen. That's the second boomerang that Captain Boomerang throws. He throws it as a distraction. He misses.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Yep. You missed. And he did. And then he catches the boomerang. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so I bought Al Diablo's motivation. Yeah. Harley Quinn's didn't bite at all.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Why did she switch sides all of a sudden? Yeah, fair point. And also... Because she's good at heart? Because she's kind of good at heart in the comic but you don't think it was kind of worked into that no not really also because she's like you've you killed your children this is where i draw the line first of all she's killed a lot of people second of all i didn't see this in the movie but this has been pointed out she's the one who kills robin in this universe yes well apparently apparently again i want to see i want to see photographic proof before that's Second of all, I didn't see this in the movie, but this has been pointed out. She's the one who kills Robin in this universe. Well, apparently.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Apparently. Again, I want to see photographic proof before that's confirmed. But what if it's like Chris O'Donnell, 35-year-old Robin, the kind of age? Oh, yeah. Then that's not killing children, Mason. That's true. But I mean, she's killed a lot of people who presumably have children. Definitely. So don't be like, you've got to step up and accept that you killed your kids because blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:08:06 That felt tactile. Yeah, just... That whole scene felt tactile. You're a lunatic. The point of your character is you're a lunatic. Don't... Yeah, pass a judgment. Don't put morality on the top of that.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Yeah. Also, that guy... You tried to stab Batman to death when he was rescuing you. Like, you're not 100% there, if I'm honest. Did you enjoy when Batman hit her in the face? Sure. I enjoy when Batman punches her in the face? Sure. I enjoy when Batman punches Poop in the face. You know how hard it is to hit someone underwater?
Starting point is 01:08:28 Underwater, right? And knock him out. Yeah. I assume he's got a little, like, a little outboard motor on his glove. Vroom, ding, ding, ding, ding. Vroom, ding, ding, ding, ding. But I also, yeah, I enjoyed how the Joker just abandoned her.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Like, it's like Batman's here, I'm out. Right. And she's just left. Yeah, see, that works. That's where there was still some promise in the movie for me. Because they're like, okay, that is kind of their relationship where she loves him with all her heart because she's been tricked into doing it. But he could take her or leave her.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Yeah. Or he says he can at least. Yeah, he did this just because it was a fun thing to do. Absolutely. Turned this person into Harley Quinn and he could just go away and maybe when he's more interested he'll come back. The version of her in Injustice goes away for a year
Starting point is 01:09:06 and has his kid and then comes back and he pretends that she never left. Right. Because he's just a shit boy. You know what there was a lot of? People showing other people things on iPads. That's true.
Starting point is 01:09:19 There was a bit of that, yeah. Or phones or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just being like, this is, look at her. It's your wife. She's being held hostage. This is Amanda Waller.
Starting point is 01:09:27 This is my boomerang camera. That's right. There was a lot of that. Yeah, that's true. Just being like, check this out. Check these ones out. What else we got here?
Starting point is 01:09:37 I enjoy these Breaking Down of DC movie episodes. I enjoyed the Batman Superman one. There's so much to talk about. You know, with Bourne, I'm just kind of like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:09:45 he was in it. He was all leopard. But this, there's so many layers. There's apparently a scene when they're going to Midway City in the helicopters where Killer Croc throws up some meat he's eaten and then he eats it again. Pretty good. That would have given
Starting point is 01:10:02 something to do. Again, we didn't mention his pre-spoilers, but he's just like, they're like're like we're gonna get this bomb under the bad guy to blow we're gonna go into this the water we've got a scuba team to do it and then killer croc's like i'll i'll i'll go as well because it's something for me because otherwise what was i underwater what what else would he have done in the movie nothing jumped about he's got nothing yeah he's just a strong guy and again he's not a... Like, you would think that if they're going to have an action sequence where there's a scuba team and Killer Croc,
Starting point is 01:10:29 they've got to plant the bomb, you would think that the bad guys would come in and they'd tear apart the military guys and Killer Croc would be the last guy in and he'd plant the bomb. Also, ultimately... But he doesn't. It's just a regular... Yeah, because he escapes.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Yeah. It could have just been... You don't even need him in there. But he loves the sewers. He does love the sewers. He did that weird little run. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, a bit underused.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Also, I don't think this version of Killer Croc... He's not part... He hasn't got crocodile DNA. No. Not all of them do. He's just got like a skin disease and he's just kind of turned himself into this monster. Yeah, and Batman like kicked him out of... Well, they mentioned batman kicked him out of gotham for being real weird looking oh yeah probably throwing up and eating his meals yeah yeah you know what i thought was strange when amanda waller came out at the end and was like
Starting point is 01:11:17 hey you're all gonna listen to me because i've got this phone and it's got all your faces on it i'll just press them maybe three or four of those people could have shot that out of her hand oh definitely yeah or boomeranged out of her hand exactly yeah so like or just slapped it out el diablo probably could have el diabloed it out of her hand ages ago yeah i know he's dead i know but yeah you could have forgotten friends you know i mean i hear you man yeah is that everything uh i think so oh which reminds me speaking of boomeranging there is that scene where they're all pinned down by machine gun fire. Or should I say mini gun fire? Oh, what do you think of that?
Starting point is 01:11:49 We'll talk about it in a second. But I was like, now they're all pinned down, they've all found cover. Now is the perfect time for somebody to throw a weapon in some sort of arc over some cover and really maybe some sort of explosive boomerang. And they did it? No, it didn't happen it happen no no no you know what i did enjoy what's that the joker turned up in the end of swat gear and he had joker written on the front it was pretty good i mean because that's the kind of comic book thing where where
Starting point is 01:12:14 did he get it but it doesn't matter but he got it and that's true yeah that's that's he got a guy that makes exactly where did he get the car did he i assume he forced somebody to build it for him he must have yeah yeah that's what I love about it. Now, what else have we got here? I've got some tweets here from some listeners. Oh, actually, you know what? Minigun Minute. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:12:31 Got to think of a theme. Here we go. Wait, I can do this. Miniguns are pretty rad. Is this one good or is it bad? We'll test this scene to its limits in the segment, Meso's Minigun Minutes. Did says minigun minutes yeah it's hard because you got to work backwards i went mini what rhymes with minute nothing don't i don't want to know
Starting point is 01:12:55 now i've already done it i had skillet okay anyway you know mark ruffalo anyway here we go mini so for anybody who doesn't know i love a minigun right which is a real big gun with a lot of barrels sure it's usually hung on a helicopter or a very large action hero yes like the rocker arnold schwarzenegger sure and they're often in movies but they're often poorly used yes okay so in this one it's mounted to a helicopter good start great start it's a big old gun good old muzzle flash it look it's you know what okay plus 100 points because they actually shoot some people with it yeah because 99 of the time it's just used to shoot at foliage or police cars or something.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Yeah, yeah. And I just want to see somebody riddle with bullets. Just get torn in half. That's what I want, exactly. And look, and again, nobody important gets shot with it. No. Just some trick. Some of Rick Flagg's friends.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Yeah, exactly, yeah. Who's Scott Eastwood in this? Nobody. Does he get his own scene? It was rumoured he was Dick Grayson. No, he dies. He's the one who plants the bomb. Oh, that's him.
Starting point is 01:13:48 I mean, maybe. Exactly. He's not there at the end, so I assume it was him. All right, so points off because they don't really get chopped in half. It's pretty impressive. Do you think this could have benefited from an R rating? Yeah. Not from the box office perspective.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Also, this apparently isn't going to open in china and i said because of ghosts maybe no it's because of ghosts that's why ghostbusters oh yeah i guess yeah and i said and i said i said when we mentioned the ghostbusters thing that's a kiss of death that's not always true deadpool obviously didn't and this i mean who knows whether we'll have legs but the general public i'd say is much more positive towards this movie than critics are yeah okay yeah there's a lot of like there's there is a, is much more positive towards this movie than critics are. Yeah, okay, yeah. There is a lot of positive feedback for this movie. Including me, Mason, who enjoyed it.
Starting point is 01:14:31 You seemed to enjoy it a lot. That's... Yes, exactly. See what I mean? I enjoyed it. Yeah, look. Again, I had an okay time at this movie. Should have been so much more.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Anyway, we're still in the Minigun Minute. Right. Points off, CGI muzzle flash. Okay. I guess, you know. Did you see the bullets, the casings? Ping on the ground? No.
Starting point is 01:14:51 But you see plenty of that from Deadshot earlier. Okay. Yeah. All right, then. Anyway, that was the minigun minute. It certainly was. Minigun. It's a minute.
Starting point is 01:14:59 I forgot what it was. Forgot all the lyrics. Don't worry, I'll edit it back in. Great. I won't. Oh, I was going to say, here's my question. forgot what it was forgot all the lyrics ah yeah don't worry I'll edit it back in great I won't oh I was gonna say here's my question do you
Starting point is 01:15:08 how many of the members of sewer squad the sewer squad squad how many members of the sewer squad squad do you think could actually beat Superman in a fight
Starting point is 01:15:16 none maybe El Diablo I was gonna say here's the thing I reckon Enchantress maybe would give it a go okay sure I guess she's a member yeah Katana see here's the thing. I reckon Enchantress maybe would give it a go. Okay, sure. I guess she's a member, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Katana? See, that's the thing. What can the sword cut through? I reckon maybe Superman. Yeah, well, if it's magic. Yeah, magic. See, that's fine. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Enchantress and Katana weren't really in the Suicide Squad. Like, they were kind of... Right, right. They were in it before the criminals were on board. So, just have them on the squad. That's a really good point.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Also, El Diablo is magic. Yeah. So, he could do it. He could melt through board, so just have them on the squad. That's a really good point. Also, El Diablo is magic. Yeah, so he could do it. He could melt through Superman's chest. But that's the thing. I feel what this movie needed was, and I said this right at the start, but I think it needed a way to show that all the characters conceivably could at least distract Superman for a minute.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Right. Like, give Captain Boomerang like a boomerang that's got like a nanomolecular edge or something like that. Right, right. That he could throw at Superman and cut his skin or whatever. Yeah, yeah. And then he has to catch it with a magnetic glove or something. Okay, sure.
Starting point is 01:16:15 That'd be fun. Yeah. And then you could go, well, Superman would paste him, but at least he could distract him for two minutes and Superman couldn't just plow him through several walls. Which he would. He would definitely do that, yeah. We've got some tweets here okay I'm ready from some
Starting point is 01:16:26 people on Twitter yep this is from Sean Livingston he's at at whack it whack it do whack it to do nice he got it suicides are actually not I'm gonna start
Starting point is 01:16:36 from positive and then we're gonna go negative okay good so I think that would be that's the spirit it's from at Greg Carter 78 loved it fun ride good characters hashtag best
Starting point is 01:16:44 movie ever. Byron underscore Clark. I really liked it. Embraced the fact that it was a comic book movie and was happy to ham it up, which I think benefited the movie. I agree. I don't disagree with that. Okay. This is from at Penning Tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:16:56 I liked it fine enough, but I think I'm done with DC movies. Uh-oh. Yeah. This is getting a bit sour, Mason. Oh, no. Only took two tweets. Two tweets. Well, there's only six. This is getting a bit sour, Mason. Oh, no. Only took two tweets. Two tweets. Well, there's only six.
Starting point is 01:17:07 This is from at Low Crow. Fun characters in a bad film. Uh-huh. Yeah. At Imperialist Wreck Show. Suicide Squad was the Mortal Kombat annihilation of comic book movies. Brutal. And at Whack-A-Doo.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Suicide Squad review. Balls. Boomerang threw three boomerangs. Thank you. And Killer Croc had a funny run when he ran into the water. He did. He touched on two things that we brought up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:32 That's great. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's good to have the boomerang number confirmed. Well, Mason, as you know, we do this show until DC have a universally praised movie. It was going to be Batman Superman. That was when the show was going to end. That's true.
Starting point is 01:17:47 And then we pushed it back to Suicide Squad. And I don't think we can say that this is universally praised. So I guess we just keep plugging away. Now, okay, but the good thing is at this rate, we will have a universally praised DC movie in about 40 years. You don't think Wonder Woman can turn it around i meant just in the rate of quality as they've been going so i'm saying like if the if the if the diagram if the the line keeps going up the rate it's going up yeah yeah it'll be a really long time but maybe maybe
Starting point is 01:18:15 wonder woman will be that spike i think i said i like this better than man of steel i probably enjoyed it more from a fun perspective yeah okay but okay. But I like about 60% of Man of Steel. And then at the end, it just falls off a cliff for me. But I really enjoy the origin and all the Krypton stuff. And even though it's very dour and serious, and I don't really like the characterization, I'd say this is probably more on par for Man of Steel with me. Better than Batman, Superman.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Yep. Agreed. Yeah. God, what a journey. Isn't it, babe? What a bloody journey, Mason. Right? Is there anything else?
Starting point is 01:18:46 Can we move on to the next part of the show? Let me think. Did anything else happen in this movie? I'm sure they did. Some things happened in it. Nah. Nah? Nah.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Okay, how about this? Okay, I'm ready. Some people are calling it this year's Fantastic Four. You know what? As I came into this movie, I thought to myself, this is a movie where not a lot happens and nobody has anything to do. And I remembered thinking, we talked about a movie that did that exact same thing and I couldn't quite remember what it was.
Starting point is 01:19:17 So I went through on iTunes all their episodes and I went, Fantastic Four. It's not as bad as Fantastic Four. No, definitely not. But it does have that same well it's a script issue yeah definitely and an editing problem yeah
Starting point is 01:19:28 where they've re-shot a bunch of stuff and it doesn't quite fit in again Fantastic Four though didn't have the characters and the fun yeah that saved this movie
Starting point is 01:19:36 because that movie is just dour and horrible yeah that's true yeah yeah I would rather watch Suicide Squad again yeah and that's the thing I would definitely watch this again I don't think I will no i won't uh but i'll see it when it you know we'll do
Starting point is 01:19:49 commentary and whatever but i came out of this going yeah i would definitely say i would say i would like to say it again but i probably will hold off until uh till a bit down the line until one of the five releases whichever cut we get you know what that's interesting though david a uh he didn't throw anything under the bus. He just went, listen, this was my version. Yep. I think people have learned from Josh Trank. Right.
Starting point is 01:20:11 I mean, like, you can't turn around. Does he have anything coming up? I haven't heard anything. Let's quickly look it up. Let's look him up. Oh, yeah. By the way, I did a poll for the Weekly Planet. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. What did you think of Suicide Squad? 13% said total shit. 18% said whatever. 54% said fun but with flaws. 15% said amazing. So I think most people kind of fall in that middle kind of range. Even though you hated Mason because, as we know, you're a Marvel fanboy.
Starting point is 01:20:39 You're a dickhead. You're a bad bloke. You bring nothing but negativity. I hope you get hit by a car. All those things are true. dickhead you're a bad bloke you bring nothing but negativity i hope you get hit by a car all those things are true all right josh trank let's have a look all right we should have we should have regular josh trank updates just trank updates what's a good name for that you'll get it naming oh okay um just trank trank is he back on Trank oh you've done it
Starting point is 01:21:06 you like that yeah now that's it should be punchier okay maybe just back on Trank that's what I said no I said is he back
Starting point is 01:21:14 yeah back on Trank you have to say it like that okay oh this is going to be fantastic Paul got 9% on Rotten Tomatoes no there's nothing in his
Starting point is 01:21:23 Wikipedia yeah oh god this is not good for Josh Trank no he had a Star Wars and everything 99% on Rotten Tomatoes. No, there's nothing in his Wikipedia. Yeah. Oh, God, this is not good for Josh Trank. No. He had a Star Wars and everything. This is going to be our greatest recurring segment of them all. Even better than Minigun Minute. I don't think anything's better than Minigun Minute, mate.
Starting point is 01:21:36 That's true. Josh Trank is one of those guys who looks complete. Upcoming Project 1, The Red Star. Okay. It's not in his IMDb. It is. Not as director. No, he's co-writer. Okay. There you go. He's not on his IMDb. It is. Not as director. No, he's co-writer.
Starting point is 01:21:47 Okay. There you go. He's easing his way back in. Yeah, he is. He's one of those guys who looks completely different in every photo I see. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I'm like, is that Josh Trank?
Starting point is 01:21:55 Is he back on Trank? I don't know. All right, Mason. Let's get into the next segment of the show. Let's get the next segment. Look, I've had a bloody glass of wine as a result of this, as you know. I'm aware.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Yeah. It's called What We Reading. Ah, What We Gonna Read. I'm doing a thing. What are we reading today? Did it start as
Starting point is 01:22:19 What You Read and What You Gonna Read? Who knows? There's no way of knowing. I was just thinking that the other day. What have you got? Well, I think we've both got the same one no i got a different one but oh well i've been watching i've just watched the first episode and a half because i'm like viola davis great in this yeah this uh movie yes so i'll watch the tv series she's on
Starting point is 01:22:37 which is how to get away with murder a few months ago i i said i asked people to uh tweet at me at wikipedia brown their a plus shows that they yep they watch every week without fail and a lot of people actually tweeted me this this show how to get away with murder they weren't just saying i've murdered somebody how do i get away with a murder oh no now the statute of limitations has passed they've all gotten away with it scott free the perfect crime twit at me your bad crimes and i'll assume you're joking oh no uh so anyway uh viola davis plays a criminal defense attorney he was also a uh law professor and she teaches uh criminal law 100 or as she calls it how to get away with murder that's punchier isn't it i know right do you
Starting point is 01:23:18 want a show called criminal law 100 no so anyway uh so she has selected five of her uh best best students uh and she sort of lets them tag along with her cases and she's got she's got unorthodox methods and they've got sort of out of the box thinking and they go to go along with these crimes you know it's a it's a it's like a procedural every week yeah there's a different crime but i think You know, it's like a procedural every week. Yeah. There's a different crime. But I think it's a cut above your regular procedure. Yeah, well, because also there's a time jump.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Three months in the future, those same five students are in the woods at night and they're attempting to dispose of a body. They're trying to how to get away with murder. Yeah, they're using the methods she's taught them to how to get away with murder. Yeah, they're using the methods she's taught them to how to get away with murder. And so it's kind of like, well, we've got this law procedural, but we've also got how did they get into this situation. And we're going to sort of learn how they did that. Well, I'm up to how they got in that situation. Oh, don't tell me what it is.
Starting point is 01:24:16 It's an intriguing premise, Mason. I really enjoy it. Did they do a murder? Don't tell me. I can't tell you, Mason. I know, thank you. You passed the test. Yes.
Starting point is 01:24:23 You know what's good about the show, and you'll find this later on? The murder? Yeah, the murder's great. Some of the best I've seen. Yeah. But you see, like, she's got this facade. Yeah. And you kind of get a peek behind that.
Starting point is 01:24:34 And it's not only, like, emotionally, like, physically. Like, she kind of strips down her character. Uh-huh. Not, like, naked. Yeah. But maybe, Mason. Uh-huh. But not really.
Starting point is 01:24:42 Ooh. Where you see, like, a different side of her. Oh. Which I won't get into, but she plays it really well yeah i've also been watching a couple episodes of um i don't know if it's still on uh don't trust the b in apartment 23 it's got kristen ritter in it don't know it oh it's um it's got kristen ritter and another woman and james vanderbeek playing himself it's uh it's about a woman who moves to the big city, and then she loses her job at a prestigious firm, and she has to start working in a coffee shop,
Starting point is 01:25:11 and she moves in with Kristen Ritter's character, who is a lunatic. Great. Whose best friend is James Van Der Beek, the actor, who's playing himself. Is he a lunatic? He's kind of a lunatic. Great.
Starting point is 01:25:19 I like Van Der Beek. Yeah, he's good, right? I like what he's about. Great chin on him, too. You notice that? Yep, real good. I actually read the Harry Potter play, Harry Potter and the Cursed Child. How'd that go? Mason.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Yeah? It's fantastic. Let me tell you that straight up, all right? I'm not going to spoil anything. I recommend if you're a Harry Potter fan, you should read it. If you don't know anything about Harry Potter- A Harry Pot fan, they call you. Yeah, steer away from it.
Starting point is 01:25:40 What do they call you if you're a fan of Harry Potter? Is there a specific name? A pothead. No. A potterer? No. pothead no a potter no a swazy yeah because it's a few steps away from ghost it's a bit kind of oh i get it that's very good yeah thank you nice that's a glass of wine doing my job for me mate oh drinking makes you better than ever but without without ruining anything of it it's it's where harry potter's an adult and he's got some kids. Yep.
Starting point is 01:26:05 And that's all I'm going to say. Okay. And some threats emerge, which are really interesting. And I had the same feeling I got when I finished the last Harry Potter book where I'm like, I'm real bummed out that there's now no more Harry Potter for now. I don't care about Fantastic Beasts and where to get them. Where are they?
Starting point is 01:26:19 I don't care. They're in the bloody case. Just look in the case. Just keep the bloody case locked. You'll be fine all right they've already agreed that another one of those so i guess it's yeah but i just have no interest in that i hope it's good but i think this this will eventually be a movie and i think it'll be like the force awakens of harry potter movies like it's just gonna rain down money and
Starting point is 01:26:39 fans and everything it's just gonna it's just gonna storm mate Would you say it is action-packed? Yeah, I would say that. On the level of a Harry Potter movie? Yes. And it also brings back characters. How do they do that live? On the stage play? That's a really good question. Cardboard, I guess.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Yeah, it's just a lot of cardboard and strings, man. That's the theatre, baby. They probably re-sprayed that gigantic King Kong from the King Kong musical as Hagrid. Yeah, that's right. Actually, I don't know if he's in it. I have to think about that. But yeah, and it finds a way to bring back some old characters in really interesting ways without spoiling anything.
Starting point is 01:27:15 And you'd think, if someone told me, this character's back, this character's back, I'd be like, oh, really? But no, it's done. It's done very well. And again, bummed out there's no more. Also, I've downloaded the Batman Telltale game that I want to play but I haven't had time to play it yet
Starting point is 01:27:29 wow I haven't played any of those so I'm not even sure how they exactly play but I'm looking forward to the branching storylines it's just all quick time events no I'm just kidding
Starting point is 01:27:36 it's not but there is some of that though I hear yeah alright Mason well I know that you're too busy opening something no I'm not
Starting point is 01:27:42 but you've actually you've actually fallen down wait no wait wait no I've wait hang on hang on no I know that you're too busy opening something. No, I'm not. No, I'm opening my... You've actually fallen down. Wait, no. Wait. Wait, no. Wait, hang on. Hang on, no.
Starting point is 01:27:50 This is not going well. Wait, no. This is the wrong thing. Hang on, God. You've really let the team down. No, I was opening... We've got to level up Lucret as well. Letters time. Letters.
Starting point is 01:27:58 We love you. Some letters. They're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. We could do letters. Yeah, we could, couldn't we? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:10 All right, Mason. Yeah, you got your Voltron shirt. You did. You're better than me, don't you? Yeah, I do. Well, mine's fresh. Yours is soiled. Yeah, I have been wearing it for four hours.
Starting point is 01:28:23 This is from at BenMJDBrammer d barama hashtag weekly planet pod that's how you hit us up oh yeah on twitter you hashtag it and we find it do you think john krasinski would make a good eric o'grady uh wait the other ant-man yeah one of them the bad one yeah john krasinski yeah the office yeah no that? Oh, he's too clean cut. Not squirrelly enough? If anything, John Krasinski should have been Scott Lang. Okay. And Paul Rudd should have been Eric O'Grady.
Starting point is 01:28:53 Yeah, no, I can definitely say that. But I think they worked in elements of Eric O'Grady into the Scott Lang version because he's kind of this skeezy kind of jerk and whatnot. Yeah. Good stuff. Well, sorry, Ben. No. That's what Mason says, and I kind of agree. But you whatnot. Yeah. Good stuff. Well, sorry, Ben. No. That's what Mason says, and I kind of agree.
Starting point is 01:29:08 But you're all right. Thank you. He's either goofy big lug, or if you put him in a different light and change his haircut, super handsome marine big lug. Yeah. That's his two speeds. I don't think he could be.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Oh, maybe he can. I don't know. Well, I don't believe it. He does love pranks. He certainly does. Yeah. He got Dwight that time, didn't. Oh, maybe he can. I don't know. Well, I don't believe it. He does love pranks. He certainly does. Yeah. He got Dwight that time, didn't he? Yeah, he did.
Starting point is 01:29:28 This is from Connor McGinnis. Yes. At CMCG underscore 22. Change that, mate. That's no good. No, you're right. I probably mean something really profound. Nah.
Starting point is 01:29:43 Hashtag weekly planet pod. Who do you think should play Darkseid in Justice League? If he's in Justice League, if not the next Justice League. James Brolin. I was going to go, yes, but then I went, oh. Oscar Isaac. Yeah. Oh.
Starting point is 01:29:59 I was going to say, because Josh Brolin's Thanos and Thanos is a reporter. Oh, right. Yeah. I thought you meant, I got my Brolins mixed up, mate. Yeah, I guess James Brolin could do it. Powers Booth. He's in Marvel. Don't care.
Starting point is 01:30:14 I think he's too old. But it's CGI. What about a Ron Perlman? Oh, yeah. He's craggy enough, isn't he? I think he's craggy enough. He's pretty darn craggy. Would you say he's at maximum crag?
Starting point is 01:30:24 He's not Mickey Rourke crag. He think he's craggy it's pretty pretty darn craggy would you say he's at maximum crag he's not mickey rourke crag he uh he's at maximum i think for his his size he's at maximum crag but mickey rourke has done some some untowards things to his own face that's true and ron perlman not as much yeah uh what about uh javier bardem people are saying that javier bardem uh Oh, yeah. Yeah. I like that a lot. There's some fan art that's really good.
Starting point is 01:30:47 He's got a touch of the Andre the Giant about him. He certainly does, yeah. Big features. Yeah. And if Andre the Giant was still alive,
Starting point is 01:30:54 I'd say Andre the Giant. Cool, cool. Yeah, yeah. Do you think they'd have to dub him though? No, I think they'd have just his regular voice. Even as is?
Starting point is 01:31:00 Yeah. Well, I don't know. Actually, now that I think about it. Yeah. He's kind of a bit tone deaf in his cadences, Mason. Yeah. I miss that guy.
Starting point is 01:31:08 Me too. What about Daniel Craig? I like Daniel Craig because he's so craggy. He's not that craggy. He's not a maximum crag. That's true. Time will tell, won't it? What about Craig McLaughlin?
Starting point is 01:31:21 Oh, yeah. Australian actor. Yeah, very good. Daniel Craig. Nah, don't like it. Yeah, very good. Daniel Craig. Nah, don't like it. No, don't like it? No. Head too weird?
Starting point is 01:31:29 You need a guy with a weird head. That's true, you do. Who else is giant? They don't have to be giant. It'd help, though. Josh Brolin isn't giant. I mean, he's like regular size, and he's Thanos. He's got a giant head, though.
Starting point is 01:31:42 Yeah, he does have a pretty big head. You need a big head. So you need at least a big head. What about a Michael Shannon if he wasn't Zod? Nah, no, bigger. I think Michael Shannon is the best DC villain. I mean, if you're not counting the Suicide Squad. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:31:58 Because they're anti-heroes. Is that true? He really acts the shit out of that. No, I agree. He's way better than Lex Luthor. Yeah, that's very true. Who else could be Darkseid's way better than Lex Luthor. Yeah, that's very true. Who else could be Darkseid's John Old Head? That's it? Yeah, that'll do it. All right.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Sorry, we didn't really answer that, Connor. Okay, Tristan Rust. Tristan Rust says TKR underscore 13. What's with this bloody Twitter? Hashtag Weeby Planet Pod. All the good ones were taken. At Wikipedia Brown. At Mr. Sunday Movies. That's what you got. hashtag weekly planet pod all the good ones were taken at wikipedia brown at mr sunday movies that's what you got uh uh hashtag weekly planet pod ring a ding ding i predict a thing he says dc will
Starting point is 01:32:33 reboot before we ever see green lantern corpse or justice league 2 thoughts is that possible well it is i mean it is probably i mean they've rebooted spider-man yeah several times so but would they do that with a whole universe i think if they were to do it they'd time travel and just be like wipe like x-men did but hopefully better because x-men just okay would they keep some of the actors and not others yes would they keep i think i think you could get you could keep all of the actors but just put them in better written films. That's probably true, actually. Except for Jesse Eisenberg.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Yeah. Because DC are mad for a reboot. They love it, mate. They're accelerating their reboots. Well, the reason they couldn't get their universe off the ground is because Nolan was doing his Batman movies, and Nolan was like, this is just a universe
Starting point is 01:33:25 with Batman and nobody else and some muscular men and that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Well let's see they've got they've had their they did their Tim Burton
Starting point is 01:33:33 averse which ended in with Batman and Robin. Uh huh. They kicked off again with Catwoman. Yep. Which immediately ruined itself.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Then they did the Dark Knight trilogy. Yep. But before that even finished they threw in the Green Lantern movie, which isn't connected to anything else, and that finished. And then the Dark Knight trilogy finished, and then the Man of Steel universe started. Yeah. So is that five?
Starting point is 01:33:55 Yeah, look, I think they've invested... Not including the 66 version. Yeah. But I think they're all separate incidents. Yes. I think because they've put so many characters into the mix here, I think they're going to have to ride this one out.
Starting point is 01:34:09 Yeah, I agree. Yeah. But I think if they are going to reboot, time travel. Time travel. Just flashpoint it, mate. Yeah, cool. Nice.
Starting point is 01:34:15 Good idea. Maybe we can get a real Death of Superman movie. Yeah, nice. Pretty good. Mason, that's the show. That is the show. Oh, also, somebody last week said, if I'm in Edinburgh,
Starting point is 01:34:26 what shows would I see? I think that was a week before. Yeah, it was ages ago. Or maybe even the week before that. But anyway, Edinburgh Fringe Festival is happening now. If you want to see a good show, see my friend Nick Cody. He's a very funny comedian. I've heard he's not a very funny comedian. What?
Starting point is 01:34:36 And I'll say it to his face. Oh, boy. Yeah. You're lucky he's in Edinburgh. Lucky for him. Also, I think Aunty Donna are in Edinburgh. They're great. I wouldn't say that
Starting point is 01:34:45 to their face though I love their YouTube skits they're good aren't they anyway you should see that stuff I've got a shout out Mason what is it this is to Aaron Farrell
Starting point is 01:34:52 who actually ran into my friend Prue in Nepal of all places and she was like oh my friend's got a podcast and he was like which podcast and it was like
Starting point is 01:34:59 the weekly planet and he was like oh my god I listened to that podcast and what a coincidence Mason that this event has transpired and now we're here
Starting point is 01:35:06 and I have his name and you're sitting across from me and my friend Prue told me that earlier. And now I know that this is something that I'm saying to him. Hello, Aaron. You're all right. And I hear you're also Irish.
Starting point is 01:35:17 Two things. Good on you, mate. Do you have anything nice to say about Prue? No. Wow. Let me tell you something about Prue. Oh no. Here comes one of his famous rants. His famous antipru rants no just great all right mason that's the show
Starting point is 01:35:31 that's the show what are we doing i'm gonna lean back okay look i'll say all the things i'll say look you can find us at weekly planet pod on facebook and twitter and gmail and bandcamp where we've got all our audio commentaries batman v superman if you haven't heard that one if you want to hear my theory about robots but in a slightly different way you can listen to that if you want to hear his theory of robots
Starting point is 01:35:49 as he's kind of distracted because he's watching a movie yeah that's where to go even better that way I feel I'm at Wikipedia Brown on Twitter I'm at MrSundayMovies
Starting point is 01:35:57 if you'd like to contribute to the show anyway keeping the bloody the bloody lights on here in the man cave yeah regular room no it's a man cave you can go to patreon.com slash MrSundayMovies.
Starting point is 01:36:07 Yes. Do you want to throw in a buck a month or something like that? You can buy a t-shirt. They're on Redbubble. Yep. At Golden Legend and Fergal Quigley. Correct. They've got some t-shirts.
Starting point is 01:36:16 There's some other guys making t-shirts as well. I'm on board with them. Absolutely. There's a crest. We've got to try and consolidate into the one place and make sure the people who make those also get money for it. Exactly. We're going to have to do that.
Starting point is 01:36:28 But as some people have said, have you authorized these T-shirts? There's one that's like a Pokemon team one, I think. It's very good. Cool. And there's like a Weekly Planet crest. The Game of Thrones one. Yeah, the Wackadoodoo's one.
Starting point is 01:36:44 Yeah, that's fine. They're great. They're real good. Whatever people The Game of Thrones one. Yeah, the Wackadoodoo's one. Yeah, they're both... Yeah, no, it's fine. They're great. They're real good. Whatever people want to do, man. Yeah. They're real good. And what else?
Starting point is 01:36:51 If you want to support the show by doing the thing you do anyway... Yep, what is that? You can just... We've got an Amazon affiliate link in the episode description. Just click on that. It goes to the regular Amazon. I'm losing my words. That's okay.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Very late. You've had a real tough go. Just goes to the regular Amazon. I'm losing my words. That's okay. Very late. You've had a real tough go at it. It just goes through the regular Amazon. You can just shop on your regular Amazon, buy what you're going to buy anyway, and we get a kickback somehow. And we would love that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Or not, if you didn't do it. Is there anything else? Thank you to the Bruton and the Baskalus and Rackham for all their themes. There's a new comic. Yes, there is. Issue three. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:20 My brother's making an appearance, the one that you like and the one you don't like. The one that I don't like. Let me tell you, likenesses are very accurate. Yeah, what else? Thanks to everybody who makes the bloody fan art and the comments and all that sort of stuff. It's weird that we have fan art. It is weird.
Starting point is 01:37:34 That's why I invented the term wackadoo. I invented that. Did you? And I said it's crap and then you said, nah, that's what it is. Okay, good. Well, that'll do it. You drove it home. I didn't want to do it.
Starting point is 01:37:44 Thank you. Else? Yeah, thanks to everybody who subscribes. This is a nice tweet. Yeah, it's what it is. Okay, good. Well, that'll do it. You drove it home. I didn't want to do it. Thank you. Else? Yeah, thanks to everybody who subscribes. It's a nice tweet. Yeah, it's really good. Gives us a nice review. Reviews always help, man. All those things are great.
Starting point is 01:37:52 Tell a friend if you think this is good. Please do. This would be a good episode because we yell about things. Especially if people love Suicide Squad. It's a perfect one to come in on. I think so. Just two guys just completely ragging on a movie, which one of them kind of liked
Starting point is 01:38:05 and one of them kind of didn't. Correct. Who's to say which was which? We'll never know. Alright. All thanks to
Starting point is 01:38:11 Rock Hollings. Yes. He's at the Weekly Planet. He makes little animated videos about us. Yes.
Starting point is 01:38:15 They're great. And they are really good. Alright. Next week Mason. Yes. I don't know. There's no way
Starting point is 01:38:21 of knowing. We'll do something. We've got 150 coming up. Episode 150. way of knowing. We'll do something. We've got 150 coming up, episode 150. I know people want us to do either... Look, I know people as well. Calm down, all right? People want to do either a superhero showdown.
Starting point is 01:38:35 Yeah, okay. So that's four weeks away. This is 147. Or a cancelled comic book movie. So we'll do one of those. But they come around every now and then, don't they? Yeah. Good job, Mason Mason this is for you
Starting point is 01:38:48 oh thank you thank you I appreciate it no problem no problem my hands will remain here aww no I'm just kidding
Starting point is 01:38:55 here it is here it is look at that there it is alright thanks everyone thanks grab that jam you guys
Starting point is 01:39:01 we'll see you next week bye don't lose the show when I press stop everyone. Thanks. Grab that jammy guys. We'll see you next week. Bye. Don't lose the show.

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