The Weekly Planet - 150 SUPERHERO SHOWDOWN!
Episode Date: August 29, 2016This week marks the 150th episode of The Weekly Planet! And to celebrate we just do a regular episode and repeat the Superhero Showdown thing we do occasionally. Plus we talk Guardians Of The Gal...axy Volume 2, Steve Rogers dropping to role of Captain America, Thor: Ragnarok, Captain Marvel, Gambit losing its director and a Justice League Dark movie going ahead.3:55 Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 2 concept art7:08 Captain America is no longer Captain America14:41 Odin back for Thor: Ragnarok16:58 Guardians Trailer (the weird Russian one)25:03 Captain Marvel Director26:56 Gambit loses a director27:25 Dark Universe Justice League Dark movie31:10 Superhero Showdown!1:25:29 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:27:55 Letters It’s Time For LettersAmazon affiliate link: https://amzn.to/2oQConrRAWCollings Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/rawcollingsPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesMr Sunday Movies YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/lB90W2The Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind our T-Shirts here: https://goo.gl/q6gE9C Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet,
official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com,
where we talk movies, comics, TV shows.
My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday.
With me as always is my my coast nick mason 150 150 150 century and a half century and a half that about
sums up how we've been going yeah yeah what progress we've made in 150 episodes it's just
me shouting incoherently again.
Absolutely.
Now, are you in favor of doing something extra special
that we definitely haven't planned
or just doing a regular episode?
Which way is a superhero showdown?
Regular, I guess.
Oh, then we'll do that one.
Okay, good.
Okay, good.
It's a crowd favorite, Mason.
It is.
It's a crowd pleaser.
Exactly.
Also, we got the listeners, the weekly wackers, to send in suggestions.
And if we don't do them now, they'll disappear in Twitter forever.
That's right.
We'll never be able to find them again.
They'll be gone.
But Mason, as you know, which you would know because this is your 150th episode, we've
got to do the news first.
Don't look a day over 120.
You know what I mean?
I know what you mean.
Yeah.
What's that?
Three years nearly?
Yeah. Fuck's sake. three years nearly? Yeah.
Fuck's sake.
All right.
Very good.
Mason, did you see the Guardians of the Galaxy concept art?
Yes, I did.
Just one piece.
They're out in space.
Out in space.
They're up against it though, aren't they?
Yes.
Do you know what the name of the creature was they were fighting?
I feel that you've sprung this on me.
Yeah, I have.
And I don't know what it is, and you've looked it up.
Correct.
Well, it's not a real thing.
None of it's real.
It's not from the comics.
It's not from the comics.
James Gunn said it was the Abolisca.
I don't even really know.
With that A at the end?
Yeah, there's an A.
Huh.
It's Abolis-S-K-A, like scar, like the music.
Abolis Scar.
Scar, yeah.
It's like a Tyrannosaurus head.
Obelisk Scar.
Obelisk Scar.
Obelix.
They're fighting Obelix.
I like that guy, man.
From the Asterix cartoons.
He fell into the cauldron of potion.
When he was a baby, so he's always super strong.
I liked him.
Yeah, what do you think?
Looks great.
Interesting, though, most of the team are just wearing the little...
Oh, the mask
the spacey
breathy masks
well I guess
most of them
can be in space
for a limited amount
of time
because they've all
got enhancements
that's true
Peter Quill
we know
can survive
for a little bit
of time
also he's not
entirely human
that's true
as we discovered
also it's concept art
so maybe they're just
in front of a
backdrop at a train station or something oh sure that's some street graph you know it is That's true. As we discovered. Also, it's concept art, so maybe they're just in front of a backdrop
at a train station or something.
Oh, sure.
That's some street graph.
You know it is.
That's some of that G-rated graffiti that I love so much.
That's right.
You love Scar.
Space octopus.
That's right.
So apparently this is a monster that the Guardians have been hired to fight.
Okay.
So I guess the acting is kind of, yeah, like the Expendables,
but fun and good and people enjoy their movies now when he says yes this so it's a monster they've
been hired to fight at i presume at the start of the movie right yeah it's going to lead into
something i think so i don't think if this was like the big thing no that they would know about
it this is pest control basically exactly did you see the little baby groot banging about yes i did
apparently he's not going to grow it like that's going to be him for the whole movie.
He's not going to kind of Groot out.
If that's an expression.
It's Deez out.
Because of Vin Diesel.
Of course.
He's not going to Deez out at any moment.
Looks great though.
It's coming out.
It's like next April or something.
How do you think they're going to do the Groot voice?
I mean, it's still going to be Vin Diesel.
That's a good question.
I hadn't even considered that. Are they going to use Vin Diesel's normal girly voice? Is that how they're going to do the group voice? I mean, it's still going to be Vin Diesel. That's a good question. I hadn't even considered that.
Are they going to use Vin Diesel's normal girly voice?
Is that how they're going to do it?
His normal voice is much different, isn't it?
Yeah.
Not girly, I would say, but yeah, he doesn't have that.
Do you think it's going to be squeaky?
I think so.
They'll have to do something, right?
Yeah.
Hmm.
I don't know.
That's interesting.
What if it's just regular person voice?
That would be okay too, but he's got little lungs.
I don't see how that would work.
Apparently they're going to play with the idea of whether it really is the same.
Right.
Well, it is technically because he's from that twig or whatever.
Uh-huh.
And he's got all the memories, but he's kind of different.
It's a Star Trek 3 scenario.
Exactly.
Search for Spock.
Exactly.
The best Star Trek.
Mm-hmm.
The one with Christopher Lloyd.
Isn't that six?
No, that's three.
He's the Klingon guy.
In six?
No, he's three.
Is he not in six as well?
No, Kirk kicks him off a cliff in three.
Doesn't mean he can't be back for six.
That's true.
It is Star Trek.
All right, Mason.
Let's do the next bit of news.
Okay, great.
Now, shockingly this week it was
announced by the now shockingly this week it was announced that the russo brothers just want to
point out that that that was the second take because i coughed and james presumably edited
it out of course i have no i have oh i'm a professional 150 episodes mason i think i i
think i've got a handle on it by now next week somebody sends us in like a supercut of just me coughing just 150 episodes of me going
you're not editing out that'd be great what are we talking about uh so yeah the russo brothers
have confirmed that captain america is no longer captain america that's right now it was presumed
did you presume that after yeah because yeah gives up the shield gives up the shield traditionally
that means he's not captain America. Correct. No more.
No more, yeah.
So that's it.
I mean, I guess it's nice to get confirmation,
but people are saying,
does this make way for the variations on the Captain America character?
So Nomad, Cap Wolf.
Sure, yep.
Other ones, presumably.
The Captain.
Oh, is that when he was like,
I'm sick of USA and I'm sick of Watergate or whatever.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you think we're going to be getting any of that?
I'm just going to be the captain.
Captain of what?
Shut up.
I thought it through.
I thought it sounded good.
Um, I think we are.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The question is, where's the shield going to go?
Yeah.
Because he's busted Falcon out of jail, right?
Correct.
He busted them all out.
Yeah, that's true.
So it's not going to be passed to him, presumably.
And Bucky's in frozen storage.
Yeah.
So are we going to get a US agent, maybe?
I would love to see a US agent.
Who's going to get the shield, yeah.
Yeah, so you think maybe a Nuke character.
Yeah.
I would love that.
Or a Nuke character.
Well, Nuke's...
Yeah, they wouldn't cross him over.
They wouldn't cross him over.
Nah.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think, who was on Stark's team that could have it?
Vision?
Yeah, classic combo.
Do those colours clash though?
Yes.
Atrocious.
I won't have it.
Unless they repainted the Vision.
Red, white and blue.
Like they did War Machine.
Yeah.
What about War Machine?
And the shield doesn't need it.
No, I know that, but it's symbolic.
It's a symbol for symbolism.
It would cut down on his aerodynamics.
Yeah, I guess it would.
Maybe that big minigun on his shoulder.
But the big minigun on his shoulder,
that probably cuts down aerodynamics.
That's true.
So what you're saying is put the shield on a stick
and put it down the barrel of a minigun,
like an umbrella in a tropical dream.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
I think that would do it.
Yeah.
So we got Black Widow.
It's not going to be Black Widow.
Spider-Man.
It's not going to be Spider-Man.
It could be Black Widow, I guess.
She wouldn't take it now.
She probably wouldn't, yeah.
Also, she did shoot Black Panther all those times.
She did, didn't she?
Yeah, he didn't love that.
Maybe Renner?
No, I reckon new character. I reckon new character. shoot Black Panther all those times she did didn't she yeah he didn't love that maybe Renner ooh
no I reckon new character
I reckon new character
they're like
this is
and it'll be
it'll be the
USA
it'll be a USA
kind of thing
where they
super enhance him
and he's more powerful
than Captain America
but he's mental
he's bad news
he's bad news
but when do you
slot that in
do you put that
into the Infinity War movie
oh yeah
like do you think
they'll just have it on storage
and then when Captain America comes out,
they're like, he's just shield back.
It was in a drawer.
I reckon there's time for it.
You do like a press conference.
Right.
Like Iron Man 3 style where you bring out the new recruit.
Right.
And you see Cap see him on TV and be like, this guy.
Prick.
Yeah, exactly.
I really shouldn't have given that shield up.
I mean, there was no reason for me to give the shield up.
Ultimately, I'd beaten Stark and he was on the ground
and I could have just taken it.
By beaten, do you mean like he beat him or he severely beat him or both?
Both of those things.
Good, yes.
Excellent.
I could have taken the shield.
I regret it now.
And then maybe, you know what? It might just be brief.
It might just be, and then he has to get from,
there might just be a scene where he has to get from one room
in like a secret headquarters to another.
Right, right.
And the US agent's in the way with the shield.
And he's like, you know what?
I'm going to beat you up and I'm going to take the shield back.
Because that's what I'm about.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'd love that.
Me too.
And now that i have it here
you go falcon cut down on some of your aerodynamics with this this year because it wouldn't work for
him either he puts on it's on his arm he'd always be twirling to the left he'd be going in circles
and also he's like a bird that's been hit in the head and then the shield and the magnetic
thing's gone you know right yeah i get you and also his wings are shields
that's true he's already got shields already got shields yeah i i want to see bucky take but i don't
know whether whether whether they even need to give it to somebody else like i don't know whether
i'm i'm i don't know if they're if they're going to actually give it to a significant character
anymore yeah unless because what's his name? The actor.
Chris Evans has said he's just going to be Captain America for however long.
He's like, yeah, I'll keep doing them, whatever.
Absolutely, yeah.
So we'll see.
I was going to, well, you've probably got something good to say, but I was going to
say, why don't you just tape the shield to Bucky's stump?
Yeah, that'll do it.
Just wrap some duct tape around him.
That's one of the things that annoyed me.
He'd be really good at that Homer Simpson
running in a circle on the floor.
Exactly, yeah.
And it would remain there until he shot enough times
the duct tape comes off
and then it falls into a river or whatever.
That's one of the things that annoyed me in Civil War.
Remember when one of the bad guys throws a grenade
and Captain America flips his shield over
so it's like a dome over it
and he puts it down and it blows up.
And I'm like, that would have wrecked the straps. gonna how's he gonna hold that for the rest of the movie
how's he gonna hold it i didn't even notice straps aren't made about him is it straps or is it metal
or is it magnetic in that one i guess it doesn't matter no it's straps in that one yeah because
you see him give it the scoop it up give it a scoop yeah i guess yeah great um now the russo
brothers also said that one of the ideas for captain America 3, if they couldn't do Civil War, which was the ideal situation, they're going to introduce the Mad Bomb, which turns people into zombie-like berserkers.
So the movie would have been Captain America dealing with beating up regular people who are sort of zombies.
But you can't really do zombies because it's this kind of PG-13 universe.
Yeah, right.
So you can't have him just severing heads.
That sounds like a Captain America movie from the 70s.
Captain America versus the Mad Bomb.
Like Get Smart versus the Nude Bomb.
Right, yeah, yeah.
I remember.
What do you think of that?
I mean, I don't think that would have been better.
No.
What a bizarre backup plan they have there.
I'm sure that was one of like 50 things we've got this amazing script here and it's got thrills and chills and
laughs and and good action sequences goofs and gaffs goofs and gaffs and like like a really
creative battle sequences between all these amazing superheroes or we could just have captain
america just running at a whole bunch of berserker regular humans and just beating them up in a line just 90 minutes of that just thwack punch also that also
if they did do that i'd be i'd be i kind of want to see marvel zombies i don't know how we could
see it or if they'd ever do it but i feel like that's kind of a cop-out like the way they did
stark's drinking this kind of piss war you know what i mean yeah just sort of in and out yeah yeah absolutely what you got something to say i went to say something but
then what but you didn't audibly do anything so it's just gonna look like i had a stroke
well you've been on your way like the there's been enough foreshadowing in i feel in the show
in the last 149 episodes that if it was built into you having a stroke in this episode people
be like yeah i, I get it.
Someone make a super cut of my gradual decline.
Remember all the times he couldn't pronounce antimicrobials?
He's on his way.
Did you have a thing to say?
No.
Or if I did, I forgot it.
Good stuff.
You saw the on-set photos of Anthony Hopkins as Odin.
I did.
People have labelled him Hoboden.
Very good.
Thank you.
Didn't think of it, but you're welcome.
Deity derelict.
That's very good.
Thank you.
So Loki's on the throne of Asgard, obviously,
so he hasn't killed Odin.
I thought he would have imprisoned him, but I like that.
He's kind of sentient man and banished him the way that Thor was banished.
So how long has he been on Earth then?
I guess since 2014?
I guess he would have had plenty of time with all the dimensions all flipping about.
Just go back to Asgard for a second, boot him into Earth.
Boot him into their moles.
What I think is interesting though, Thor got kicked to Earth and he got it together fairly quickly.
Odin just falls apart.
You know what I mean?
Like he just can't cope.
He's got no skills.
Yeah.
He's not adaptable.
No, he's really not.
He's too old.
I liken to the fact that my mom now has an iPhone, but she refuses to text.
I think it's like that.
Odin's arrived in the modern world and he's just like-
Not getting a job.
Not going to do any of this.
Not going to do any of this stuff. Subway thank you not out of the street i can't die so
i just whatever yeah yeah so i think they're gonna have to go back and get him at at some point
apparently he's going to become some kind of doom doomsday prophecy guy because if it's a ragnarok
yeah then yeah that that that totally works so no i think that's interesting unless loki like
messed with his memories and that,
which is entirely possible.
Yeah, I think he would have, because otherwise, what's he...
Surely he would...
Because, I mean...
I mean, Odin knows Jane Foster.
He would know of the Avengers.
He would just go to Stark headquarters.
He knows Stellan Skarsgård.
He does know...
Oh, Stellan Skarsgård's going to be right there.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
Running around pantsless. Running around just twitching. He's know, oh, Stellan Skarsgård will be right there. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Running around pantsless.
Running around just twitching.
He's so happy to help out.
Absolutely.
Yeah, no, it must be.
It's got to be a memory thing.
Kat Dennings.
Yep.
That was hard to watch in the second one from memory.
I always like also when they do, when they're like on set photos of this character, it's
always a split and it's one where they're all serious and in character and there's one where it's just like anthony are we gonna know
yeah yeah uh before there's one more bit of marvel news but we before we talk about that
uh people want us to talk about the guardians trailer now this isn't guardians of the galaxy
yeah this is a russian superhero movie my experience with russian superhero movies is
total garbage disappointment yeah day watch night watch yeah which a lot of people love Russian superhero movie. My experience with Russian superhero movies is... Total garbage.
Disappointment.
Yeah.
Day watch, night watch.
Yeah.
Which a lot of people love.
Yeah, I found nonsensical, and there's a guy called The Bear, who always says he's...
He doesn't turn into a bear.
He always boasts that he's going to transform into a bear.
He never turns into a bear.
This trailer...
Oh, boy.
Straight up bear man.
Yeah.
Although we don't see him transforming into a bear.
I think he's just a bear man.
No, he's the regular guy.
Oh, is he?
There's a guy there.
Right at the end of the trailer, they're like,
we've built you all these special suits for your superpowers.
And he's like, where's mine?
Yeah.
That's him.
That's the bear guy.
Oh, okay.
Right.
And they just gave him a minigun.
A minigun.
Now, you're a minigun aficionado.
So I know people want to hear your take on this. You love a minigun minute. I do. Yes, that's true. It's a famous recurring segment. Yeah, right. They just gave him a minigun. A minigun. Now, you're a minigun aficionado, so I know people want to hear your take on this.
You love a minigun minute.
I do, yes, that's true.
It's a famous recurring segment.
Yeah, look, so far it's very CGI.
It's Russian.
Yes.
There was some...
This trailer had a very odd mix of real stuff and CGI.
The quad tank walking thing I thought looked quite good.
That looked great, yeah.
But other times, not as good.
And there was a scene in, I think, daytime
where there's a whole, like, just a whole, you know,
all these ranks of trucks and tanks and stuff moving along.
And I'm like, oh, that's real stuff, or it looks real at least.
But then there's another one where it's nighttime
and there are all these sort of trucks converging
on a character in the center.
And it's just awful CGI.
And they're all like all the tanks
are moving in like the this unison that would only work if they're just 3d models moving together
yeah cut and paste yeah what do you what do you think what do you what do you what do you bloody
what do you reckon about it i don't like it i'm not gonna say it i mean it looks fun whatever
yeah it's just it's not my thing you know what it what? It's an oddly cut trailer. Yeah, sure. Like it's oddly, it feels like a trailer from the 80s.
Okay.
Like, you know, there's the-
But with slightly better special effects.
Yeah, like the Batman 89 trailer, I think.
Right, okay, sure.
Which is-
Oh, the pacing-wise.
The pacing-wise, and it's just got like odd scenes sort of smacked together.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's got that modern day sensibility of this fast action
and these slow-mo bits and all that sort of stuff but they haven't quite put it together
right so it's oddly paced maybe i will see it you've convinced me was that where are you where
are you gonna see it where are you right i guess torrent i guess i don't know because it's not
gonna get a cinema release here no and like it's going to be months before it's on
Netflix or whatever
yeah yeah
or maybe straight to Netflix
maybe yeah
that's it
look yeah look
I'm not paying $9.99 for it
let me tell you
I'll just FYI
I said last week I was going to watch Hardcore Henry
I didn't get around to it
well that can be your what you're reading for this week
you just say it again
it does very much remind me though
of that Nightwatch Daywatch kind of situation.
Did you see Ben-Hur?
Because it's the same director as Nightwatch Daywatch.
Yes, it had wanted.
Yeah.
Bersklof.
Timon Bersklof.
Timon Bersklof.
Yeah, so you didn't obviously see Ben-Hur.
No.
What were they thinking?
Putting $100 million into a fucking Ben-Hur movie in 2016.
Are you out of your mind?
It wasn't me.
Sorry.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Exactly.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
What?
We're tired of...
Apparently it's not even terrible.
Yeah.
Like, it's just like, okay.
Is there an homage to the...
Apparently, in the previous version of Ben-Hur,
in one of the chariot races,
they didn't clear the background correctly,
and so there's a little red sports car,
just somebody driving through the background,
like, woo-hoo-hoo.
And there's also a guy that's, like,
actually trampled to death.
Oh, was there an homage to that?
I hope so.
So you saw it?
No. Okay. Come on. All right. Get out of there an homage to that? I hope so. So you saw it? No.
Okay.
Come on.
All right.
Get out of here.
It's not something I'm against.
If it was on TV, I would watch it because I've seen Ben-Hur, the original.
There's some good stuff in that movie.
See, I wouldn't see if it was on TV.
No?
Because there'd be so many ads that it'd stretch to like three and a half hours.
Okay, Netflix then.
Okay.
You know what?
I'd put it on as I'm editing something else.
Okay, great.
And my sign for, oh, I want to watch this is I'll stop it.
I started watching The Little Prince, which is like an animated Netflix thing.
I just put it on.
I know what The Little Prince is.
I know, but I'm just telling, there are other people that listen to this.
No, there aren't.
It's not just me and you.
No, there aren't.
The reason I've kept doing this is because you've constantly promised me we're the only
two involved in this conversation.
But like five minutes in, I'm like, you know what?
This actually looks good.
So I stopped it.
So that's the benchmark for me.
Right.
The Ben-
The Ben-chmark.
So do you think this kills the swords and sandals?
Do you think that's it?
I think it was a dead-
I mean, it was done, but do you think-
It was done for a while.
Do you think that's like the final rock to the head to all producers out there?
Do you think it's the final trample?
Yeah, that's right.
To the genre that is a man getting trampled.
When was the last?
See, I mean, Gladiator kicked it off.
Yeah, but that was the last, I would say, massively successful one.
Yeah.
Like, Troy did okay.
Yeah.
But it didn't, it wasn't critically lauded.
No.
But it made money.
Yeah.
And nobody quotes from Troy.
Immortality!
Take it! It's yours! Okay, just that bit. And nobody quotes from Troy. Immortality! Take it!
It's yours!
Okay, just that bit.
And it's just us.
We're the only people who do it.
No, I don't know.
What was the last?
I can look it up.
Was it Exodus?
Gods and Kings.
Oh, yeah.
That tanked as well.
People hated that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Movies.
Was Ben Hur, was the, you know, the much beloved original Ben-Hur, was that also a remake?
I don't know.
But it probably was from like a movie from like the 30s.
Right, exactly.
I mean, okay, I guess like 300 counts.
Yeah.
And, but also like Spartacus, the TV series is like quite successful.
There has been incarnations of it that worked, but no.
Oh, you know what?
Hercules was okay, but did that make...
And also, that doesn't count.
Yeah.
That's not Ben-Hur.
And it's not like a serious...
That's sword and sorcery.
Oh, you're right.
Even though there wasn't actual sorcery.
No, but there was enough fantastical elements.
And it was irreverent, and it was kind of modern day.
Right, right.
It had enough modern day sensibility in reference to it.
Yeah.
You'd be like, oh, that's a fun film I watch.
But this is like, I've got to know about the history of Ben-Hur.
Boo.
Boo.
Yeah.
Boo.
Anyway, it's done, isn't it?
Yes.
What's next, Mason?
Probably just remake Shadow again.
See how that goes
give that a bloody go
give that a red hot go
even like Gods of Egypt
I mean again
that's more magic
and whatever
but that did not do well
and that cost like
$130 million
yes it did
I listened to an episode
of How Did This Get Made
on it
and it sounds
fascinating
I've been wanting
to watch it
just because I've heard
it's terrible
but I like the idea
of a giant snake
you know how it is so that terrible, but I like the idea of a giant snake.
You know how it is.
Yeah.
So that's the thing. I love the idea of any of this kind of fantasy epic where it's history,
but it turned out that what we think was magic was really high technology
or whatever.
Right, right, yeah.
I like that.
I like Stargate.
I like some of the other things.
Even though Stargate doesn't really hold up, the movie.
Yeah, the movie doesn't hold up.
The movie series is fun.
Yeah, sure.
Richard Dean Anderson.
Exactly.
Did you see the trailer for the rebooted reboot of the new MacGyver?
He's got different hair, doesn't he?
He does have different hair.
Is it better?
I didn't watch it.
It's the same guy.
It's still the guy from X-Men First Class.
But it looks a lot better.
Okay, good.
Yeah.
I think James Wan did this pilot.
Maybe, yeah.
If that's true, that's a good idea.
So at least the first one will probably be good.
Yeah, because that original version looked...
You know what?
It started at the weird...
He just had greasy, long, weird hair and hated it.
And then it was just like, he's a special forces operative
and we just throw him in with nothing.
Give him a gun.
Give him anything.
He'd probably take a gun.
He'd probably take a gun.
But like, this looks a lot better.
I don't know.
I think he's in a secret society now.
They do good works or something.
That's all right.
Great.
You know what else might be good works?
What's that?
Captain Marvel, the movie, which is coming out in 2018 or something.
We know that Brie Larson is Captain Marvel
we talked about that great casting
love it they've got apparently
they've nailed it down
narrowed it down to three directors
all female
Nikki Carrow
she did
Whale Rider and McFarland USA
neither of which I've seen
McFarland USA, neither of which I've seen. Oh, McFarland is a Kevin Costner film where he teaches kids to read or something.
Whatever.
So pretty great.
I do like Kevin Costner.
No, it's about running.
Oh, that's right.
He teaches kids to run.
That's what I was thinking of.
Look, Costner, most kids can run. You're that's right. He teaches kids to run. That's what I was thinking of. Look, Costa, most kids can run.
You're wasting your time.
Leslie Linker Glatter.
She's done episodes of The Walking Dead and Homeland.
Okay.
Lorraine Scarfaria.
The meddler seeking a friend at the end of the world.
Most of that stuff I have not seen, so I have no idea.
I mean, Walking Dead and Homeland are okay, depending on the episode.
But other than that, I don't really have any sense of this at all.
Well, Marvel knows what they're doing.
Sure.
So good luck.
For the most part.
Have you seen any of those things?
No.
I've heard Seeking Your Friend's good.
Yeah, Steve Carell, right?
Yeah.
Is that Keira Knightley as well?
Maybe.
Mason, I know I'm going against the thing we did in the first episode,
but I looked that up to see who it is, if well? Maybe. Mason, I know I'm going against the thing we did in the first episode,
but I looked that up to see who it is, if it is her.
Oh, yes.
And it is.
Oh, nailed it.
I hope that comes up in a pub trivia quiz.
Yeah, absolutely.
That wouldn't even come up in a pub trivia quiz that was solely about the movie Seeking a Friend for the End of the World.
Even if it was just an hour of that,
that question would still not come up.
Absolutely.
Nobody cares.
Last bit of news for the week, and it's a big one.
All right.
Well, it's two bits of news, really.
Gambit has lost another director in Doug Liman.
We're never going to get a Gambit film.
Do you care?
No.
So he stepped away from the project.
It's lost like two or three at this point.
Yeah.
It's done, right? Now, Channing Tatum, is he in or three at this point. Yeah. It's done, right?
Now, Channing Tatum, is he in or out at this point?
I think he'd have to be still in, but if I was him, I would jump to either Marvel or DC.
Right, yeah.
Is that what you'd do?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fox, just make Deadpool movies.
Right, yeah.
Just get back to Deadpool movies.
It's fine.
That'll do it, yeah.
Yeah.
But the reason, well, part of the reason he's left, I'd say this movie was already done
before he left, but he's going to direct dark universe which is a justice league dark
movie adaptation sure okay that sounds pretty good right hmm uh in theory in theory sure he did uh
edge of tomorrow yeah okay bunch of other stuff yeah that's quite good uh so no i think he's i
think it's a great choice a lot of people uh kind of like oh oh, well, isn't bloody Del Toro going to do it?
And for years he was kind of teasing that he was going to do it.
Yeah, so Justice League Dark is the Justice League,
but it's all magic users.
Yeah, it's all monsters and weirdos and whatever.
It's their suicide squad, in a way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love the idea of a Justice League Dark movie.
They've got an animated feature coming out soon.
Yeah, it's true.
Which I'm excited for.
That should be good.
Yeah, what do you think?
Excited?
Yeah, although I have to wonder who's going to be on the team.
Right.
And are we going to care about the team?
Well, I think it's, what's the standard team?
Constantine?
Yep.
Swamp Thing?
Swamp Thing.
Well, the Rubin names for Constantine in the past were Colin Farrell, Ewan McGregor.
Yep.
Which of them?
If you had to pick one.
Ewan McGregor.
Me too.
Even though I like Colin Farrell.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.
And Ron Perlman as Swamp Thing.
Okay, sure.
That's perfect, right?
Yeah.
I think he probably just, these days, he probably just sleeps
in like one of those,
like one of those shells.
Like head molds?
Yeah,
like a head mold.
He probably just sleeps in one
because he's like,
okay,
I'm not Hellboy today.
All right.
And he just goes to sleep
in a head mold.
They wake up,
they've molded him
in a swamp thing
and he's like,
all right,
here we go.
Oh,
pretty good.
So no,
I'm all for,
I think Deadman,
maybe.
Yeah,
Deadman will be in it.
Dr. Fate will probably be in it dr fate will
probably be right yeah yeah but that's the thing like it's it's again it's a case of they're
forming a team but we don't know any of the members right exactly i mean comic book fans do
but yeah how how is the general audience gonna get on board with these people they don't know
at all yeah some of which are always wearing a helmet, some of which are a big, disgusting, gross swamp man.
Zatanna?
Yeah, okay, she'll be in it.
Sure.
Great, I'm all for it, Mason.
Me too.
I'm bloody...
Me too.
Doctor Occult, maybe.
Okay.
He might be in it.
They're going to knock one out of the park.
Not a real doctor.
Doctor Fate, not even a real doctor.
Actually, the current one's a psychiatrist, so...
I guess that counts.
What do you think about people being doctors
without having any medical expertise?
Give me an example.
Like an archaeologist?
Like an archaeologist, you can be like a...
I guess technically the first one was an archaeologist,
but I don't know if it was a doctor.
Look, it doesn't matter.
What about like I have a friend who has a doctorate in business?
Oh, yes.
What do you think about that?
Is he the one who listens to the show?
No.
Then I think it's garbage.
That's fine, I guess.
No, I just think, why do they have to be doctors?
That's what I'm saying.
I'm not against it, but why?
I think there's confusion with that as well.
Maybe the terminology should change.
Yeah.
And if you're like a doctor of business you're called doctor you know what have you smith but if you're a medical doctor
you should be called real doctor yeah that's right you know what i mean because it's on your passport
and stuff or the like the business people could be called fake doctors fake dr smith doctors oh
very good there we go mason okay just to be clear, the first Dr. Fate, he's an archaeologist,
and in some cases he's a physician.
Like he decided to be a physician and an archaeologist.
He's got two skills.
I feel maybe what he actually is is a fraud.
Like he's just like, he's just bloody catch me if you canning
all about the place.
Like, I'm an archaeologist.
He's the pretender of the DC universe.
That's true, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Fantastic.
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it's time for our bloody superhero showdown mate we do these every i don't want to say 25 episodes
like that yeah i'll just or just whenever we're like have we done one of them in a while
what are we doing the last one are we gonna one of them in a while? Should we get around to it?
What did we do in the last one?
Are we going to just do them again accidentally?
Now, the rule that we set this time on the guideline was literary or cinematic characters.
Yeah.
So excluding comic book characters.
But that being said, it's just whatever.
Sure.
Yeah.
So basically, our listeners, the Weekly Whacka-Doos, have messaged in, tweeted at us. Hashtag a weekly plan-a-pod. Weekly plan-a-doodles have have messaged in tweeted at us
hashtag
a weekly planet pod
and they've given us
each person's given us
two characters
they want us to
do battle
and we will determine
who is the winner
of course Mason
there are rules
associated with this battle
yep
care to remind the good folks
listening
okay so the rules are
yeah
each character appears at the opposite end of a standard size American football field.
Yes.
Now, we've never been on an American football field.
No.
Or even seen one in person.
Correct.
But we assume they're pretty good and good for fighting on.
Well, they're rectangle, aren't they?
Yeah, they're pretty good, right?
Okay, so they appear.
Yes.
It's just them.
They appear with the standard equipment they would have normally on them.
No vehicles.
No vehicles unless that's part of the character.
Unless they can summon it.
Yeah, that'll do it.
Let's see.
They see the other one.
They immediately perceive the other one as a threat.
Yes.
And they act as they normally would towards the threat.
Correct.
So if it's a character who would kill people, they go in for the kill.
Yes.
If it's a character who doesn't, they will go in for the kill. If it's a character who doesn't, they will go
in for the not kill.
And the other example is
characters who are
reluctant to kill but will. So like Wolverine
might not initially kill,
but then as it escalates, would then...
If he isn't immediately successful,
he will kill that person.
That's right. He might be like,
are you friends with Professor X in any way?
Will this come back to me in a bad way in any way?
No?
All right, you're dead.
Yeah, am I going to have a sit-down meeting
because I'm not in the mood, frankly.
All right, so let's bloody get into it.
There's also a list on the Reddit,
which we've gone through,
and some tweets,
which people have hashtagged Weekly Planet Pod.
Do you want me to kick it off?
Please do.
Okay, this first one.
Also, I should say our decisions are final,
but also we're not really that concerned.
And yeah, don't.
If you think the opposite is true, you're not.
It probably is.
We won't fire you about it.
This is from Matthew or Sisk underscore Sisk underscore Sisk.
He's having that stroke, guys.
Underscore Sisk is hard to say, all right?
Maybe it's deliberate.
It's like summoning a demon.
Yeah.
It's not right.
Did you say underscore Sisk too many times in a mirror?
Up here.
On a football field.
Ooh.
Star-Lord versus Han Solo.
Okay, sure.
Now, I'm presuming in his day Han Solo, not Grumpy Odd Gramps, recent Force Awakens Han
Oh, that's right.
We also say in their prime.
Yeah.
Unless we've determined otherwise.
Yes.
It's a character in their prime.
That's right.
Okay.
So it's Star-Lord Guardians of the Galaxy, obviously.
Probably maybe the conclusion of the first movie.
Absolutely.
So he's seen some stuff.
Yep.
But he's had some time to recuperate.
Definitely.
Definitely.
I would say this is Han Solo before he falls in love.
Okay, sure.
Because then he's in his prime.
He's got nothing to lose, mate.
Oh, sure.
You're saying that love is ultimately his downfall.
Yes.
And the downfall of everyone.
Yes.
Wow.
Okay, spoiler alert.
That literally is his downfall.
His son murders him.
Oh, I guess.
Sure.
It's his downfall.
But I mean, somebody inevitably would have murdered him
anyway i know all right yeah but he wouldn't have put himself in that situation with somebody else
is what i'm saying he wouldn't have walked out on that platform with boba fett but no but also i
feel it's that han solo see i feel he's left a lot of illegitimate children behind and like
maybe if if spoiler alert his son didn't kill him in Force Awakens,
a week later somebody else would have killed him.
You know what I mean?
I don't think so.
Some other kid.
He's wily, mate.
Or like a different son.
Like a different kid, yeah.
Okay, fair enough.
All right, opposite ends of the football field,
they both appear.
Star-Lord has a bunch of gear.
That's true.
And Star-Lord has a blaster and a little communicator.
And that's pretty much it.
And that's useless
because Chewie can't get to him here.
He could summon the Falcon,
I guess.
No.
When's he summoned the Falcon?
He'd be like,
Chewie, bring the Falcon
to where I am.
No.
Chewie doesn't know where he is.
I wouldn't factor it.
I'm not saying.
Okay, cool.
It would be a factor.
Where is this football field?
I feel it's...
I've always pictured it as...
Tallahassee.
No, I don't know. I've always pictured it as... Tallahassee. No, I don't know.
I've always pictured it as not on Earth.
It's just sort of floating through space.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Okay, fair enough.
So they can knock the other person into space.
Or is it just force-fielded?
I think it's force-fielded.
Okay.
I just thought it was just like a standard field
in like Oklahoma or something.
Oh, that's a lot...
Look, but even...
That's a long time in the future
and a galaxy far far away
right so even if you could summon chewy it's not happening it's not happening fair enough okay
well who's better hand to hand uh star lord yes han solo might do the overhead punch yep on your
back yes the two-fisted grip punch yeah but you see star lord like he can tangle with remember
he tangles with rocket raccoon and
groot and gamora that's true yeah and he's he doesn't win but he does oh he does pretty well
yeah they're all vicious killers yeah but who and but star-lord is less likely to kill
no that being said star-lord shot that dude like straight up remember in the in when he goes to get
the orb that's true yeah and thinking he didn't know that he wasn't going to kill him.
That's true,
but I think he would have gone in
inherently knowing that that guy,
like he'd done his research.
Sure.
So he knew that there'd be bad guys on their way.
He might have known that guy.
Yeah, okay, fair enough.
Okay.
Yeah.
I think Han Solo is definitely more inclined to kill.
Yeah, we've seen him do it.
Yeah, absolutely.
Constantly.
Yeah.
Do you think they're both trying to like swagger their way out of it initially with quick talk,
but it wouldn't work because they'd both do it?
Right, yeah, exactly.
Would it just be me using two Pokemon that don't mesh?
Right.
Just add each other?
Yeah, it might just end in them going, you're doing the thing that I do.
But they can't become pals They can't become pals.
Here's the question.
Or the threat.
They're both threats.
Fair enough.
Who's the quicker draw?
Ooh.
Is it Solo?
I would have said Star-Lord.
Yeah, well, I guess you're right.
Solo's is in a holster, like, down by his knee.
That's true.
And he could have been preparing that for, like, 10 minutes.
That's right, yeah.
He does. You see him in Star Wars could have been preparing that for like 10 minutes. That's right, yeah. He does.
You see him in Star Wars.
He takes it out and aims it slowly.
Yeah.
Yeah, Star-Lord's like really quick.
That's true, yeah.
Up the mark.
Yeah.
Also, he's got that weapon that like magnetizes people to it.
Yeah.
Or whatever it is.
That Bolo thingamajig.
Yeah, exactly.
I think it's Star-Lord.
I think he's got more shit.
That's true, yeah.
And he could probably take
Like
Could he take a blaster?
Like a blaster shot?
You know what?
We don't know
Because
His origin is
Is murky
His father is
Ego the living planet
He can
Hold a
His father is the indestructible
Kurt Russell
That's right
He can hold a gem
Yeah
And he
And it didn't kill him immediately
It would have killed him
Yeah
But most people It would have killed him yeah but most people it
would have so i would say that yeah he's definitely more durable as well than han solo yeah but
because star wars has set millions of years in the past potentially all of the people in star
wars could be like a hundred feet tall there's no way there's no scale we That's so true, yeah. Oh, my goodness.
Yeah.
Well, look, if Han Solo's 100 feet tall, I think he's got this.
Right.
But in other respects, yeah. I just think Star-Lord's more durable.
I think that's what it would come down to.
And also, Han Solo ultimately is a bad shot.
Over a football field length, that's...
How close do you think they'd get before they started shooting?
Well, if they perceived as threat?
Yes.
Remember when Han Solo saw Vader?
He was like straight on it.
That's true, yeah.
So I think that's how that would go.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hmm.
I don't reckon he'd hit him.
After a football field length.
There's no way he'd hit him.
That loosey-goosey grip.
Yeah, you're right.
One to the left, one to the right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dead. Okay, fair enough. Good start? Yeahosey grip. Yeah, you're right. One to the left, one to the right. Yeah. Dead.
Okay, fair enough.
Good start?
Yeah, great start.
You got one?
No.
I can give you another one while you're looking it up.
Okay, go ahead.
I'll try and find one, yeah.
This is from Elvis.
Who would win a fight between Harry...
Wow, Weekly Planet exclusive.
He's still alive.
Who would win a fight between Harry Potter and Doctor Strange?
Ooh.
I'm fairly confident that Harry Potter would be killed.
Or beaten.
Because Harry Potter needs his friends.
Oh, sure.
Doctor Strange.
I mean, I'm presuming it's the movie version.
We don't really know what he can do yet.
Yeah, that's right.
But he can summon things out of nothing and step through dimensions
and shoot stuff out of his hands.
Harry Potter is always like, Ron, help me.
Are you sure Doctor Strange wouldn't underestimate the kid?
Okay, that's possible, I guess.
Yeah.
Okay, fair enough.
Yeah.
How do you think it would go down?
Doctor Strange doesn't need to go for anything either.
That's true, yeah.
He's all hands and he's ready.
Force fields.
Does Harry Potter have like a silency kind of spell?
They can.
Is there like a silencio?
Yes.
Yeah.
And also Harry Potter in this universe, you can cast a spell without saying it out loud.
Once you get good at it, you can think it and then do it.
So Harry Potter doesn't necessarily need to speak to...
Okay, right.
In his prime anyway.
Yeah.
Because I assume in Doctor Strange the movie,
I don't think we can go movie version
because we don't know what he can do yet.
Okay, fair enough.
I feel Doctor Strange, a lot of his...
Comic book-wise, a lot of his spells,
he has to say something.
Right.
Something ridiculous.
And it's usually quite long.
It's longer than it really should be.
It's an incantation.
It's an incantation.
Yeah, okay.
And I think he'll get one of those out.
Right.
Harry Potter's like, oh, he needs to say stuff.
I don't need to say nothing.
Okay, fair enough.
And he'll hit him with a bit of the silence.
Right.
Like, that doesn't rule out everything that Strange has.
Sure. But that's going to cut out everything that that strange has sure but that's
going to cut out a lot of stuff okay how's he going to do his bolts of bedevilment without
saying the words bolts of bedevil but can he do it without saying it i don't think he can yeah i
think all the big stuff he has to say right he's doing it i'm sure he could just be like pull a
force field around him or whatever probably yeah i think this is a lot i think this is a longer
fight than you've anticipated.
I don't know about that.
Because, okay, a slight spoiler alert for the new Harry Potter.
I'm not going to spoil anything.
Is this Cursed Child?
Yeah.
Or is this adult Harry Potter?
Well, no, I'm just saying what he can do.
Okay, right.
So he goes up against him.
See, I'm going to say that Cursed Child Harry Potter is not Harry Potter in his prime.
It's in his middle-aged slump.
I agree.
I agree.
But because he goes up against he's fallen in love
he's done he's old he's done he's like 36 he's got a kid he's really bloody he's just he's just
not he's not there is he's preoccupied with things but he goes up against a fairly formidable
opponent yep i would uh i would say maybe probably less than voemort, but he's just, it's in a church or whatever, and he's just on the run.
Like he's not adept at dueling.
Like that's his job.
Yes.
Because he works for the ministry and he tracks down retired Death Eaters and Black Magic or whatever.
But he's still not a great, Harry Potter's strength isn't the fact that he's a good wizard necessarily.
It's his friends and the fact that he's invincible for no reason.
Oh, sure.
And that doesn't apply.
No, that's true.
In this situation.
He doesn't have any wards against Doctor Strange just punching him repeatedly in the face.
That's right.
Which he would.
I feel he would.
Yeah, Strange is good hand to hand, isn't he?
Yeah.
Even though they're kind of broken, he can still fight.
He's got the karate.
Yeah.
He could judo chop a man.
All right.
So you're going to give it to Strange? Still enough I am. I reckon it's going to be a longer karate. Yeah. He could judo chop a man. All right, so are you going to give it to Strange?
Still enough I am.
I reckon it's going to be a longer fight.
Okay.
I mean, not much longer.
Sure.
What's going to happen is he's going to underestimate the kid.
Right.
There's going to be a slightly extended middle act where there's some confusion.
And then I guess he smothers him with a cloak of levitation.
No, no, no.
What would Harry Potter have like, what else would he have on him?
Harry Potter could kill if he wanted to as well.
He's got that spell to kill.
What is it?
What is it?
How does it work?
Avada Kedavra.
And then you're going to have all the hate in your heart
and you shoot at somebody.
You have to be able to do it.
Yeah.
You have to have that hate.
Oh, he doesn't have it on him, does he?
Well, who's this guy?
He's not going to...
I mean, he's a threat.
That's all he knows.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but he doesn't know why.
Well, then that...
What else?
Lightning bolts?
Fireballs?
What's he got?
Yeah, he didn't even do it to bloody...
Yeah, he can do all that.
Oh, okay.
He didn't even do it to Voldemort, though.
Yeah.
He's worstest of enemies.
Oh, then he's dead.
Yeah.
Does Strange kill? Yeah. He's worst of enemies. Oh, then he's dead. Yeah. Does Strange kill?
Yeah.
People?
Ooh.
Probably not.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But magical beings he does.
Yeah.
And this guy's magic.
Like you'll banish them
to another dimension
or whatever.
Probably do that, yeah.
Yeah.
He'd banish Harry Potter
to some hell dimension.
Well, to the cupboard
from whence he came.
He'd permanently just put him in there.
I like it if he was just cupboards within cupboards.
Like he's just trying to get out of the cupboard.
It's just infinite cupboards.
Good stuff.
I'm going to look for one right now.
All right.
I'm going to look.
Oh, on our Q&A, we mentioned we've had a reminder
from Seamus Duffy
Seamus D on Twitter
we asked for a reminder
for this
Elektra versus Raphael
a sigh off
a sigh off
I do remember this
this is going to be a short one
who's better
who's stronger
Raphael
yeah
who's better with size
Elektra
you reckon
yes
he's just rage yeah he's just rage you're right you're probably right I mean ultimately with size. Elektra. You reckon? Yes.
He's just rage.
Yeah, he's just rage.
You're right.
You're probably right.
I mean, ultimately,
he just wants to be flailing his fists about.
Yeah.
He's just been given these size.
You know what I mean?
If he lost them,
he'd just keep swinging.
So do you think it would come down to finesse more than brute strength?
I think so, yeah.
Because she's a ninja as well.
I mean, even if we take
like Nigh Indestructible movie version,
like the last couple of movie Raphaels,
like he's like a tank, but he's got some weak points,
specifically his neck.
Absolutely.
And it would not take her long to just...
Also, he's not a killer.
That's true, yeah.
Not in the way that she is.
And Ninja Turtles, they wouldn't fight girls, you know?
No, they have, though.
No, they have, but, you know.
Like Shredder's daughter and a few others and whatever, yeah.
So, Electra?
Yeah.
Agreed.
Sigh to the neck.
I don't think you could throw it.
I think you'd have to get in close.
Oh, and she would.
Yeah.
You want me to go on?
Please, go ahead.
This is from Ken Cross.
Christopher Lambert's Raiden from Mortal Kombat.
Oh, yes, good start.
Versus Raul Julia's M. Bison from Street Fighter.
So at their prime.
Well, I don't know if it was,
it wasn't Raul Julia's prime because he died immediately after this movie.
But the character's prime.
Well, see, that's the thing because
he's saying this because they're both light lightning cat using using lightning but the
issue here is that ral julia and street fighter only uses lightning after he's been killed and
brought back by his suit his suit performs cpr on him yeah and then he comes back so and is the
does the suit give him lightning?
Yes.
And he's like, you didn't expect to face a god.
Yeah, uh-huh.
He's yelling that.
Superconducting electromagnetism, he says in his Raoul Julia voice.
Probably the last thing he said on cellular.
Superconducting electromagnetism.
Oh, I kind of love that movie.
Yeah, it's pretty good.
It's way better than Legend of Chun-Li.
Yeah, it is. Which is just love that movie. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's way better than Legend of Chun-Li. Yeah, it is.
Which is just boring.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, Raiden's a god, isn't he?
Yeah.
But there's places Raiden can't go, but Earth is not one of them.
Like, he's ineffective in the Netherrealm in that movie or something, isn't he?
Is there a football field in the Netherrealm?
I don't think so.
No, I don't think it is.
It's just...
I think it's just standard Earth football field.
Yeah.
Didn't we say halftime at the Super Bowl? Probably, yeah. I, I don't think it is. I think it's just standard earth football field. Yeah.
Didn't we say halftime at the Super Bowl?
Probably, yeah.
I think we said that at some point. So halftime at the Super Bowl, Beyonce, she's done her thing.
She's moved off.
Yeah.
And then they're like, attention, ladies and gentlemen,
for your enjoyment, a fight.
Probably between two people and maybe you vaguely know who one of them is maybe you don't
who's to say in this situation do you think ralph julia would get the drop on him sorry m bison
by dying instantly to then be to to rise oh so do you think uh do you think lambert would would
kill him and then think it's done oh And then he's like, I'm back.
I don't think he'd win.
No. But I think there'd be like a what?
Also, in the Mortal Kombat universe, you can be a robot and fight a wizard.
Yes.
Do you know what I mean?
No, I guess so.
It's not really clear about-
Yeah, that's true.
Who can do what or how anything works.
Well, see, that's the thing.
Because Raiden is-
The reason you can kill Raiden in Mortal Kombat is because he's in human form.
Right, okay.
Like, I think if you killed him, like, he might...
Like, if you sliced him in half with a sharp hat.
Yeah, he'd return to life presumably at some point.
Right.
But he is...
Like, he is only as powerful as a regular human.
So maybe you're right.
Okay, in god form, this would be not good for Raul Julia.
There'd be a very big and bloody explosion.
Yeah.
But I still think Raiden.
Look, I think, yeah.
Look, I think if...
See how slow he was, Raul Julia, when he's flying?
Boy, did I.
He's doing these ones.
He's doing the Superman, yeah.
Yeah.
That's pretty great.
But I think there's something in that Raiden would kill him.
It depends how he kills him, because if he fatalities him he explodes his head which is the one he does from
the first model combat you could give him as much cpr as you want he's not growing his head back is
it yeah that's true so it depends how he kills him yeah but if we go by Mortal Kombat rules, you can't immediately fatality somebody.
Yeah, but he doesn't know that.
In this scenario, it's not a Mortal Kombat match.
I mean, so does he just go for the kill?
No, but I'm saying according to his own rules, he can't. Okay, I guess.
So he thinks it's a tournament.
No, I'm saying that in this universe,
nobody thinks they can go for a fatality.
Straight up.
The last person's like, I'm all woozy and I'm about to...
It's the movie universe, though.
I've got two seconds before a full...
Okay, right.
Okay, I'm going to say, yes, it is rated immediate fatality.
But if he goes karate first, Raul Julia hits the dirt,
and then somehow he's still connected to his island base
and his base computer's resurrected.
That's a big if.
It's a big if, isn't it?
There's no Wi-Fi in 96.
Exactly, yeah.
So, no, you're probably right.
Maybe if he's given that moment of surprise
and Raiden turns around like, you know,
he's overconfident and he turns away.
And the audience are just like, what is this?
Behind you.
Behind you.
It's Raul Julia.
He's from the Addams Family.
The first and second one.
And the second one.
He's probably in some very good independent movies as well,
but none of us have seen them.
We've just seen The Addams Family and Street Fighter.
Anyway, he's me.
Oh, he's hit you.
Then maybe he's going to check.
Because he's bison, right?
Yeah.
He's good at fighting.
Yeah. I don't think this version is No, he's not
But I'm going to give him some of his Street Fighter skills
Okay, fair enough
Well, you know what?
He can fight in the video game movie adaptation
That's true
Of the movie
Which is canon
Which is canon, I guess
Yep
You got one?
Let's see
Okay
Okay, this is from Alex
Alex Bradley on,
I assume that's Alex Bradley on Twitter.
Hang on.
A couple of people suggested this.
My phone's just locked up.
You know what?
It's all three of Simon Pegg's characters from the Cornetto trilogy.
Against each other.
Against each other.
Well, one has guns.
Correct.
But a standard British cop does not have guns.
Correct.
And he doesn't have guns for a lot of it, but it's in his prime.
No, it doesn't count.
Does that count?
No, it doesn't count.
No.
Because we're not pulling them out of the moment in the film where they have the guns.
Does that mean that Shaun of the Dead doesn't get a cricket bat?
Correct.
And that means that...
But they might get assorted random gridiron items.
Sure.
That are spread about.
Okay.
So the World's End doesn't get a pint.
He can just glass.
No.
Well, he's the oldest.
He might get like a plastic, like a red solo cup of beer that he could sort of...
That's true.
They don't sell anything you can glass of on the football.
No, that's right.
Yeah.
Well, I think World's End is the oldest and the drunkest.
Correct.
I think he's the most worst for wear.
But he's the best at fighting, I feel.
That's a really good point.
Yeah.
There's some great fight scenes in that.
Yeah.
Hot Fuzz is very fit.
Correct.
Like Supercop.
Yep.
Shaun of the Dead's like a clerk.
Correct, yes.
You know.
Yeah.
What is he?
He works in like a vacuum store or something?
Yeah.
And also he is Simon Pegg before he's gone fully Hollywood.
So he hasn't worked out at all.
Right, right.
So under that short-sleeved shirt, who's to say?
He hasn't got his Star Trek bod.
That's right, yeah.
Okay, so we're ruling out Shaun of the Dead?
Yeah, he's...
Also, who's more willing to kill in this scenario?
Shaun of the Dead is willing to kill...
Zombies.
Zombies.
Yes.
But he's reluctant to kill people.
Nicholas Angel from Hot Fuzz.
Not willing to kill anyone.
Right.
Because he's always...
He's a good cop.
Yeah.
It's always a trick shot.
Right, right.
Okay, fair enough.
And there's no guns.
There's also no guns, yes.
But World's End, kind of a loose unit
yeah
like he's just
he smashes that dude's
head open
correct
not knowing that
he's not a person
correct right
yeah
I think it's World's End
I think it's World's End
because he's the loosest unit
right
well yeah look
that being said
the Hot Fuzz guy
is probably very good
at hand to hand
yeah yeah
but not
he's not like
sci-fi kung fu there are some crazy moves in that movie there's crazy moves in that right that's probably very good at hand-to-hand. Yeah, yeah. But not... He's not like sci-fi kung fu.
There are some crazy moves in that movie.
There's crazy moves in that, right?
That's such a good...
They're all good movies, man.
I guess they got the Scott Pilgrim virus
where everybody's good at kung fu fighting for some reason.
You know what I mean?
Is that a virus?
No.
I haven't read the comics.
I'm saying cinematically.
Gotcha.
Okay, cool, cool.
So, World's End?
I think so, yeah.
All right.
Now, I think this might become a staple of the series,
or maybe it's just this one time,
where we include a duck character.
Yes, sure.
This is from Stanley.
Sorry, Stephen Stankey.
How about Duckwing Duck versus Howard the Duck?
A true duck off.
Last time we had Scrooge McDuck versus Bruce Wayne.
That's right.
So Darkwing Duck, who's like the Disney equivalent of Batman.
Correct.
Versus Howard the Duck, who's the Marvel equivalent of something that George Lucas ruined.
Correct, yes.
Well, which version of, what's the prime version of Howard the Duck?
Comic book Howard the Duck.
Not Guardians?
We don't know.
We don't know anything about him. Isn't he real wily? Comic book version of Howard? He's book how the duck not guardians we don't know we don't know
anything about it yeah yeah isn't he real wily comic book version he's real wily yeah yeah is
he a murderer yeah so well that's a good question actually uh what are you killing can duck kill
duck is the question i guess like he'd kill somebody you've threatened and he's probably
got a gun on him, to be fair.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, he's a detective, right?
Yeah.
Private detective?
Sometimes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know that much about him, if I'm honest.
Let's do some research.
I know that terrible movie.
Look, he knows Quack Fu,
which is the duck version of Kung Fu.
But Darkwing Duck is also very adept at martial arts.
Is he?
He's not Batman, but he's pretty good for that universe.
I feel he's not comically inept.
No, he's inept, but he's not like...
But he's the most competent kind of superhero you could get in that universe.
I guess that's true.
What about Gizmoduck?
Gizmoduck's an idiot.
Yeah, that's true.
Gizmoduck is a idiot.
I love Gizmoduck.
That was a test.
You passed the test.
Gizmoduck's just stumbling around into shit. I love the Gizmoduck design, was a test. You passed the test. Gizmoduck's just stumbling around into shit.
I love the Gizmoduck design, though.
I think it's really cool.
Not knowing anything about Howard the Duck.
He's always getting out of a scrape.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Is he strong?
No, no stronger than a regular human duck.
Man.
Funny animal man.
Well, that doesn't tell me anything.
No, that's true, right?
Hang on, here we go.
Well, it says here,
Howard the Duck has shown some degree of mystic talent in the past
to the point that Stephen Strange taught some spells to Howard
and even offered to train him, but Howard declined.
Well, that's it, isn't it?
So he might have the bolts of bedevilment.
Yeah.
If he's got even one magic thing, that's over.
Well, what's Darkwing Duck got?
He's got like a grappling gun, smoke pellets. This is what we need. Yes. That's over. Well, what's Darkwing Duck got? He's got like a grappling gun.
Grappling gun, yep.
Smoke pellets.
Uh-huh.
This is what we need.
It's a duck blur.
That's what we need to call in.
Michael, Sarah, if you're listening to this.
Help.
Help.
I'm going to give it to Howl of the Duck.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
All right, fine.
But not the movie version.
No.
Because he's just a weird man in a little duck suit.
It's terrifying. You got one? No. I he's just a weird man in a little duck suit. It's terrifying.
You got one?
No.
I can do another one.
Okay, great.
Do another one.
This is from Ash Pogson, Indominus Rex from Jurassic World.
You saw this one?
Yep.
Versus King Kong?
No, I got the Queen from Aliens.
Oh, okay.
King Kong would smash that.
Well, it depends on the version.
Yeah, we should do both.
Or neither. Moving on. would smash that well it depends on the version because he's giant yeah we should do both or neither
moving on
but we've seen also
King Kong fight
two Tyrannosaurus Rexes
at once
that's true
whilst saving a girl
but this is an Indominus Rex
yeah but he's got
a cloaking device of sorts
I guess so
but it's only one of him
that's true
and also he's on a football field
what's he gonna
what's he gonna
cloak against
yeah
so which one do you want to do?
Both or...
Or is that done?
No, let's do your one.
All right.
The queen from Aliens.
Yes.
Who's intelligent.
How's her strength though?
Real strong.
Also acid for blood.
Right.
So if he sinks his teeth in...
Yeah.
I guess it's a question of who dies first.
Right.
Okay.
But then... Okay, what's the coin got there
she's got the lashy tail she does have a lashy tail this lashy speary tail yeah yeah do you
think that would kill him through his head yeah so that would be it no and even if he even if it
got her yes and bit into her yeah he would still die from the acid yes from the acid of the acid yeah it would melt off his lower jaw
and he died i feel it's a case of they both if pursuing he survives the spear yeah she survives
the spear that was a lady lady battle hello hello oh what if they kiss uh no presumably if if
No.
Presumably, if... Would the Alien Queen know to go for the brain?
Yeah, I reckon.
Well, she goes for Ripley's head.
That's true.
Okay, yeah.
And that's a big target as well.
All right, assuming the Indominus Rex gets close enough,
the Alien Queen goes for the spearing, misses.
Maybe the Indominus Rex grabs it because she's got the real hands.
Oh, yeah, sure. she's got the real hands. Oh, yeah, sure.
She's got the real arms.
I feel it's a case of the Indominus Rex
starts to tear into it and bite into it,
the Indian Queen.
Like a crab.
Yeah, and then it's a case of
they just turn into this weird acidic mess.
And it's a case of which one hits the ground first.
Right.
Okay, fair enough.
Maybe we should do King Kong versus Indominus Rex.
Okay, sure.
Which version?
The Peter Jackson version, I assume.
Yes.
So not the biggest one.
No.
But big enough.
I'm really looking forward to see what the new one can do.
Yeah.
Maybe a cloaking device.
Like he'd win.
He's enormous.
Maybe T-Rex arms.
Maybe the new King Kong has T-Rex arms.
Like regular arms and then little T-Rex arms.
Well, Jurassic World was pretty good at inventing that new dinosaur,
but we think we've really cracked this.
That's right, yeah. What the people
want is teeny little arms.
He's beating his chest
with his teeny little arms.
Tap-a-ta-tap-a-ta-tap-a-ta-tap-a-ta-tap-a-ta-tap.
All I can think about is... I think that's a better fight.
Okay, well, you're probably not wrong,
but all I can think about is that scene
in King Kong where he fights
two Tyrannosauruses, and he's got Naomi Watts in one hand the whole time.
And he still wins.
Yeah.
He gets banged up.
But then again, they're not intelligent the way that Indominus Rex is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And also, I feel that fight was kind of...
A bit too choreographed?
Yes.
And also, Indominus Rex can climb him.
Right.
Sure.
Gets the claws in. Yeah. Climbs up to its head. Bites the neck? Bites the can climb him. Right, sure. Gets the claws in, climbs up to its head.
Bites the neck.
Bites the neck, maybe.
But acid blood.
Oh, from King Kong, absolutely, yeah.
Okay, yeah, you're probably right.
King Kong's pretty punchy, though.
Also, he can break a jaw with his bare hands.
That's true.
Claws.
Sorry?
Still claws.
Still claws?
Lots of claws. Yeah, sure. Reallaws. Sorry? Still claws. Still claws? Lots of claws.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.
Real arms.
Yes.
Yeah.
So you're thinking Dominus Rex?
Ooh, that's a good question, actually.
You know what?
Maybe not.
Or how about this?
They're battling.
They're battling.
Do you think the goalposts on a football field could withstand King Kong standing on them?
No.
For a second? I'm Even for a second? I don't know for a second.
Yeah. Like he's going to get up on him
and then like take a leap.
Belly plant. Like what if he
grabs, okay what if Indominus Rex
gets in there. Yeah. Really tearing
into him. He does a little
quick hop onto the goal
post. Flattens her.
I don't know if that would work but I still think
he could get, he could jump high enough to flatten.
Okay.
I still think he's got that.
Yeah, okay.
He's got that maneuverability.
Do you think when it gets down to the ground, King Kong's got it?
Yes.
In a brawl?
Yes.
Because he's a brawly kind of...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, on their feet, different situation.
Yeah, uh-huh.
But once Indominus Rex has lost that counterbalance of the tail and all that.
That being said, though, Indominus Rex clawed feet as well, right?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Maybe not.
But King Kong also can go two feet, can go four feet.
Like he's kind of.
Yeah.
See, my initial thinking was if he got Indominus Rex on the ground,
grab both the arms, headbutts, just a series of King Kong headbutts.
But then if she's still got the clawed feet yeah
like she's tearing the guts out right right okay so it's just a pile of guts yeah she bursts out
of the pile of guts i think it might be a dominus rex all right i'll give you that done yeah going
ready to go let's see um oh uh robert downey jr sherlock holmes Sherlock Holmes versus Benedict Cumberbatch Sherlock Holmes.
Downey Jr. can like see the future of a fight.
Right.
Yeah, there we go.
Or some nonsense.
Yeah.
So you don't really see Benedict Cumberbatch fight.
He sword fights somebody at some point.
There's no swords though, is there?
No, there aren't any swords.
I'm not saying he can't fight.
He probably can.
Right.
I'll tell you almost certainly can. But in the second Sherlock Holmes, I don't know if you've seen it. though is there no there aren't no i'm not saying he can't fight yeah he probably can right i'll
tell you almost certainly can but in the second Sherlock Holmes i don't know if you've seen it
i have yeah okay well he has a mind fight with Moriarty that's right and then decides that he
can't win so he throws him off the cliff that's right yeah i don't even know what that means
what does that mean for a fight i don't know you know what it meant it meant because that's how
they died in the books okay just like yeah do you reckon there's going to be deductive
reasonings there's going to be like well i said you've got this on your shoe which means you're
blah blah would they determine through detective work that neither of them is a threat would that
be no because they are they are a threat okay sure yeah do you think they'd figure out that you're a version of me? Ooh.
Good question.
Do you think there'd be any conversation?
Because I don't think, they're not the kind of guys that would just run at each other and start fighting.
I think there would be kind of a standoff.
Sure.
Some witty retorts.
Oh, yes.
Some kind of sizing up.
Some looking at if they've got any powder on their waistcoat.
Yes, definitely. Whatever, Nero, whatever.
Yeah.
So I don't think it would just be, it would devolve into a fight immediately.
Yeah.
Both killers also.
Also, it's established that Benedict Cumberbatch is a sociopath.
Correct.
Like he says it.
Yeah.
He kills that guy, Magnus or whatever.
Remember it? The last season? He just flat out shoots that guy point blank. Oh, that's right. it. Yeah. He kills that guy, Magnus or whatever. Remember it?
The last season?
He just flat out shoots that guy point blank.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I don't...
Downey Jr. is a killer, but not like that.
Yeah.
Does Downey's character have a gun?
Yeah, he's always waving a gun about.
I wouldn't say he has one on him all the time.
He's probably got a cane with a knife in it or something.
Cumberbatch doesn't carry a gun.
That's true, yeah.
That is for certain.
Yeah, okay.
You're saying RDJ.
Yeah.
I don't like it.
Yeah, no.
Because it's a bullshit.
Look, nobody likes it.
Nobody likes his weird mind palaces.
Everybody hates him.
Wait, that's the other one.
They've all got mind palaces.
Sure.
Sick to death of mind palaces.
What do you got?
I got?
Sure.
Gian Franco, Dom Toretto from Fast and Furious.
Is that Vin Diesel?
Yes.
So I should have said.
Versus Mad Max Fury Road.
Yes.
Which is the optimum Mad Max, really.
Yeah.
Also, you've got to bear in mind that Vin Diesel from those movies is pretty much invincible.
Right, yeah.
Remember when he came back to life for no reason?
That's right, yeah.
The car park fell at him or whatever.
He jumped the car over a helicopter.
Because in the first one he gets banged up and his arm's broken.
Yes.
Remember with Paul Walker?
Yeah, that's right.
But nothing like that kind of happens again.
Yeah.
Now they're not in their cars.
I want to be clear about this yes just who's a better
driver well probably dom mad max is always totaling his car he's a terrible driver so if we're saying
in his prime yeah well i mean in his mad max does it say specifically fury road that says fury okay
right because in his prime prime is thunderdome right because he's a superhero yeah right he is
yeah that's the that's the more even matchup but for fury road Because he's a superhero. Yeah, right. He is, yeah. That's the more even matchup. But for Fury Road, he's a terrible driver.
But that's the desert, though.
Yeah.
So you've got to factor that in.
Like Vin Diesel's never been chased by like a hundred mutants.
That's true, yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
I mean, Vin Diesel probably has.
He's been chased by, you know, 100 weird car fans.
Sure, absolutely.
Yeah, so.
But in a fight, who's better in a fight?
Who's got the skills?
Vin Diesel took the two sticks and fought Statham on the car park.
Right, yeah.
Remember that?
Yeah, okay, sure.
And Tom Hardy is, Tom Hardy gets hurt easier.
Yes.
But he's pretty durable.
Like he's got, I'd say he's got more grit.
Okay.
He can be tortured and drowned.
He can be in a massive...
Maybe he totals his car a couple of times in that movie and he's fine.
But how does any of this help in a fight?
I'm saying he's durable.
Sure.
In the same way that Indiana Jones is durable.
Okay, sure.
He doesn't stop.
Yes.
But Indiana Jones, his skill is taking a beating
until environmental factors move in.
Like the sun gets in somebody's eyes
or they fall into a boat propeller or whatever.
Right.
So what is...
Mad Max's skill is that he scrapes through
until he's able to walk away at the end.
That's true, yeah.
After the situation sort of resolves itself.
I don't know.
Without a gun, in Fury Road, what's his best hand-to-hand kind of...
He has that fight with Charlize Theron when he's chained to Nicholas Holtz.
That's pretty good.
That's a good fight.
Yeah.
I like that movie.
It's a good one.
It's good, right?
Yeah, it's pretty good.
I still think Vin Diesel is superhuman.
Yeah.
And he wasn't, but he is now.
Correct, yes.
And if we're taking prime.
Yeah.
Stick fighting Jason Statham.
That's right.
Yeah, I don't...
Mad Max is fast.
Yeah.
He's fast and skilled.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Vin Diesel's got family on his side.
Not with him, but in his heart.
In his heart.
And regardless of the distance.
Mad Max's family is dead.
That's so true.
But they're still in his heart.
Yeah, they more kind of scare him.
And also they're never coming back.
That's right.
But he's always like he goes to do a thing and then one of them jumps out at him.
That's true.
Like it doesn't help him.
He might have flashbacks on the field.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't know.
Because you're right. I want to say that. I don't know. Cause you're right.
I want to say that Mad Max has some skills cause you're right.
That, that, that scene where they're both going for the gun.
Yeah.
But if Mad Max, there's no gun on the field.
No.
What's he doing?
Like we don't know.
And if he had a gun, it would misfire.
Like almost certainly.
Yeah.
And we don't know, like, how is he in a, in a fist fight with the indestructible Vin Diesel?
We don't, we don't know. I think it is Vin Diesel. Yeah. You're probably right. Yeah. Hey, speaking of cars. I don't like it how is he in a fist fight with the indestructible Vin Diesel we don't we don't
know I think it is Vin Diesel yeah you're probably right yeah hey speaking of I don't like it Mason
but rules are rules uh this is from 140 years on reddit now this is this is probably against
the rules a little bit but I thought it was interesting if we're talking cars um hang on
I've lost it great good one idiot no, I'll find it again.
This is going to be really good.
Okay, here we go.
I'm ready.
I mean, I've been ready.
Have you found it?
No.
Okay, so this is from 140 years on Twitter.
Batman versus Mad Max versus Speed Racer versus James Bond.
Caveat, they all have to stay in their cars.
Can you go again from the top?
Batman.
Yep.
You're familiar with his work. Yep. Mad Max. Which top? Batman. Yep. You're familiar with his work.
Yep.
Mad Max.
Which version?
Batman.
Yeah.
We've got to go cinematic.
I think we're going Ben Affleck, right?
Yeah, we're going Ben Affleck, yeah.
Ooh, that's a car.
That's a bloody car.
Or do we have to go...
But that's not an iconic version of the car.
Somebody suggested underneath this which Batmobile.
Even if it's the Tumbler.
Yeah.
Well, what do you...
Anyway, we'll get back to that.
Okay, 140 years is the guy suggested it.
It's up to them.
I would say some version of the 89 Returns Forever animated series
Batmobile.
Okay, sure.
Because it's the iconic version.
All right, done.
Yeah.
So Mad Max, Speed Racer, James Bond,
have to stay in their car, Demolition Derby style.
Which Bond?
Daniel Craig.
So he doesn't have an invisible car.
Correct.
Although that would add a fun little rink to it, wouldn't it?
It certainly would.
Yeah.
There's not a lot of room for manoeuvrability,
and the Batmobile...
No, the bloody American football field is pretty big.
Yeah, but if you've got eight cars on there or whatever it is,
but also that version of the Batmobile American football feels pretty big. Yeah, but if you've got eight cars on there or whatever it is.
Yeah, but also that version of the Batmobile has to shoot a grappling hook to turn a regular corner.
That's true, yes.
So what are you doing there, you know?
He's probably parking and putting the shields up
and then just waiting.
Yeah, that's probably right.
Mad Max would crash his.
Immediately.
Almost immediately. I don't know much about Speed racer the mark 5 other than speed and racing yeah what do you know about
him uh let's see uh is he a killer no he's not a killer that's true he's he's we'll see here's the
thing he's not a killer yeah and also the mark 5 is like it has an open top right and also the
most part he's not it's not a combat car not well and he oh isn't it is it uh well i mean it's got
it's got like like saw blades oh really yeah it is a combat car yeah okay so it's kind of it's
more or less indestructible but it has an open top. Yes. Sometimes it's got the... You can put the cover on, but like when he's driving it,
like in competition,
open top.
Yeah.
And this is a competition.
Yes, that's true.
Do you think there's any chance
that Batman could shoot him
through the head
with a grappling hook?
I mean, he wouldn't,
There's a chance Bond
could shoot him through the head
with a handgun.
Bond would have a gun also,
like in the dashboard.
Yeah, exactly. He'd have many guns. In the glove compartment. I mean, even he'd have in the dashboard. Yeah, exactly.
He'd have many guns.
In the glove compartment.
I mean, even he'd have a handgun.
Yeah, absolutely.
I would say with him.
Yeah.
I think also it has to be the Aston Martin DB5 if it's the classic.
So not the gadgets one?
No, this is the gadgets one.
Okay.
So this is machine.
Because, you know, he's got the one that doesn't have the gadgets.
He's got the Casino Royale one, doesn't have gadgets.
Oh, sure.
Yeah.
But we're giving the gadgets one.
No, this is the Skyfall one. Okay. And the classic version. So it's got machine guns in theale one doesn't have gadgets. Oh, sure. Yeah, no, this is the Skyfall one.
Okay.
And the classic version.
So it's got machine guns in the headlights.
Yeah.
Oil slick, ejector seat.
So all he has to do is get somebody in that passenger seat,
eject him, they're done.
So he's like, Batman, get, get, I'll help you.
Get in here.
Come on, mate.
I think it's Batman from just sitting it out.
I think like Mad Max, if drove at him,
he could just put the shell over it and Mad Max would flip it.
So he's out immediately.
Look, ultimately Mad Max's car isn't very good.
Like it's only good in a universe where this isn't happening.
And also it's not even that good no yeah exactly like it's not
as good as a monster truck no yeah look i think his cars yeah i think mad max is immediately out
okay because it's it's a what can he do why why is fury road so entertaining he's not good at
anything but that's why it's entertaining i guess guess that's true, yeah. Now, he flips it immediately on Batman's shield.
Or on the Mark V.
He connects with the Mark V, it flips.
Right, right.
Yeah.
And depending how he lands, he could kill Speed Racer.
That's true.
He could land, yeah, crush his head.
Yeah.
All right, let's go with that.
All right.
Batman, through waiting it out?
He's got so many gadgets.
I don't think he...
No.
The classic Batmobile is somewhat bullet resistant.
Yeah.
But it's not indestructible.
Sure.
Yeah.
But...
What if he switches to the bloody...
The Bat...
That Bat rocket sled thing?
Remember?
It's in the middle of it.
True.
From Batman Returns. Would he? No. It? It's in the middle of it. True. From Batman Returns.
Would he?
No.
It's ridiculous.
Maybe last minute?
Yeah.
Did Nolan steal that idea?
Yeah, kind of.
For the Tumblr?
It's an homage.
Yeah.
Why would that be in the Tumblr?
Yeah.
I know.
You're against it.
I'm very against it.
I'm well aware.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How long can he wait it out, though, is my question.
Long enough for Mad Max to flip his own car.
Yep.
James Bond to shoot Speed Racer through the head.
Speed Racer's car isn't bulletproof, I presume.
No, it is.
What?
Yeah, it's bulletproof.
Is the windows bulletproof?
Yeah.
He'd roll them up straight away?
He'd roll them up straight away, yeah.
It's made of some sort of weird it's made of some sort of weird like
super duro aluminium compound or something like that and so you just like apply an electric like
if it's got a ding in it you just apply an electrical current to it and undings itself
like it's gonna fix itself no no okay he's got also he's got the monkey in the in the boot
he's got the monkey in his weird little cousin or whatever his little brother in the boot
you can't bring another person or they always they're all they're mostly they're almost
certainly going to be because it's every episode of speed racer it's like now you you little kid
and your monkey don't get in the boot of the mark 5 because speed's got to do an important race
and then two seconds later they're like we're in the boot of the car so they're in there they're
definitely in there and bond's going to kill them okay fair enough so they're going to in the boot of the car. So they're in there. They're definitely in there and Bond's going to kill them. Okay, fair enough.
So they're going to pop the boot during the battle.
I think so.
And Bond is going to also
perceive them as a threat.
And kill them, yes.
I think Bond could kill
everybody except Batman.
Yeah.
Like he's got a limit
to bullets as well.
That's true.
It's bulletproof enough.
I think so, yeah.
Also it has rockets,
presumably.
These versions?
The Batman 89 version.
Yeah.
Well, all that.
It's got machine guns.
Yeah, that'll do.
I mean, James Bond's car isn't bulletproof, as we saw.
Oh, that version.
No, it's not.
It's trash.
All right, yeah, that's fair enough.
Yeah, actually, that's probably true.
I reckon Speed Racer and Mad Max go immediately.
Yeah.
And then it's just Batman, bond machine gun face off because these versions have
no compunction against killing each other that's a good point i forgot batman's a murderer yeah
yeah so it's batman i would say ejector seat though can't leave the car though okay now you're
right it is batman because if you leave the car you lose the demolition derby good yeah and you just you're just right for being shot out of the air that's true yeah yeah unless like my feeling would be if
eventually i think the only other way it could go is if they both run out of machine gun bullets
and gimmicks yeah and they both like like open the top of the car right just to just to get the light of the land
and then james bond shoots batman in the mouth which he could do yeah i don't think batman's
that dumb though oh this version though he's kind of dumb he's kind of dumb yeah okay that's a
possibility i'm open to it yeah or if they or if they because what could potentially happen is
they like side swipe each other with each other with the canopies open
and James Bond tears Batman's fruit roll-up mask off.
And then he's ripe for a killing.
The next pass, he's dead.
That's a pretty wide card.
Bond, how far has he reached?
He's got to reach.
Craig's got little monkey arms.
That's true, you're right.
He's not reaching that far.
He's got King Kong's Tyrannosaurus Rex arms. I still think he could shoot him little monkey arms that's true you're right he's not reaching that far he's got King Kong's
Tyrannosaurus Rex arms
I still think he
could shoot him
through the mouth
though
you're right
yeah
I'm still giving it
to Batman
just for a more
durable car
that's true yeah
but it'd be interesting
no I think you're
right because
Batman would
machine gun the
car
eject a seat
or torch it
it's got like
flames
yeah that's true
it wouldn't matter
alright it's Batman
alright
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what do you want me to do
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All right, what about this one?
Jessica Speed.
Snake Plissken versus Nick Fury.
Battle of the Eyepatches.
Battle of the Eyepatches.
Movie version.
Okay, sure.
Not Hasselhoff, I assume.
Okay, good.
Have we ever seen him fight?
No.
We've seen him think on his feet.
Yes.
We've seen him with a good solid action sequence.
That one.
Yeah, that one.
That was great.
That's a great action sequence.
It's the best.
We've seen him shoot people.
Sure.
He could probably talk a man out of shooting him.
Not Snake Plissken. No, you shooting him. Not Snake Plissken.
No, you're right.
Not Snake Plissken.
In fact, what would work though on Snake Plissken is reverse or reverse psychology.
Because if you're like, there's no way you're going to shoot me, Snake Plissken, he would.
But if you're like, there's no way you wouldn't.
Wouldn't shoot me, Snake Plissken, he wouldn't shoot you out of spite, I would imagine.
He is very, yeah, he is like that, isn't he?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Maybe he has that oppositional't he? Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Maybe he has that oppositional defiant disorder syndrome thing.
Almost certainly.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
How's Plissken in a fight?
I don't remember.
He's a great surfer.
Yes, that's true.
That I don't doubt.
Yep.
Has he got guns?
They've both got guns, I'm going to say.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
They would.
Who's a better shot?
Fury.
Fury can hit a bloody, bloody plane with a rocket launcher.
Correct.
And another car with a little machine gun.
But have you ever seen him point blank shoot somebody?
Must have done, surely.
He would have.
I'm sure he's killed like...
Office workers.
Yeah, sure.
Office workers.
Made their KPIs, yes.
But he's still quite old.
Yep.
You've got to factor that in.
He's no spring chicken.
Snake Plissken's probably 30, 35, maybe.
Okay.
And Snake Plissken, he's a brawler.
You know what I mean?
He's a tough guy.
He's got no sleeves.
Doesn't need them.
Oh, that's true.
Or is that a weakness?
For Chinese burns. Yes, that's true. Or is that a weakness? For Chinese burns.
Yes, it is.
It definitely is.
I don't know, man.
Don't know enough about him.
Well, I do, actually.
Depth perception.
Yep.
Bad.
I mean, that's not going to impede either of them.
Correct.
And they'd both be used to it also.
Now, I think Snake Plissken is probably the better shot.
He's better at surviving on the streets.
He's more dangerous.
Fury is an office man.
Oh, yes.
In a way.
He's gone soft is what you're saying.
Yeah, he's soft-ish.
Yeah, okay.
Uh-huh.
He's got more secrets, but that's not going to help you, is it?
No.
It's going to help you being riddled with bullets.
Uh-huh.
And I think Plissken's a better fighter, so we came down to it. Okay okay should we do one more or two more let's do two more two more okay i've
got a few here i don't know which one to pick okay uh angus joker on reddit has said professor
xavier versus oracle in a wheelchair race oracle yeah well she's fitter she's so fit she was bat
girl not even a question not even a question do you want another one yes please go sure uh
not even a question do you want another one yes please go sure uh kylo ren darth vader kylo ren versus darth vader yeah now kylo ren is upset that he's not going to be as powerful as
darth vader uh-huh but i would argue that he is probably more powerful with the force he can stop
a blaster bolt midair yes he can he's also he can like bring some like he can pick somebody up bodily and like bring him yeah yeah like vader can vader's got skills as well yeah
but vader has no pain threshold how do you mean or if he does sorry he's as incredibly high pain
threshold yeah that's better yeah it makes way more sense like he'd probably have no nerve endings that's true yeah he can take a severe beating yeah and he's fine yep or you know now in this scenario
we're gonna say neither of them is overcome by emotion by the fact that they're whatever no okay
none of that it's just kylo ren would presume that's not the real darth vader right and darth
vader be like who's this idiot exactly he doesn't know who he is. Okay, yeah. Yeah.
That's a good question.
There's a broad, he's also got more of a broadsword.
Yeah, okay.
If that makes any difference.
Right.
So this is Darth Vader in his prime, but it's not Anakin.
No.
I think Anakin would be.
Yeah.
Kylo Ren.
Oh, absolutely.
But, so this is Darth Vader, let's say, just before, let's say, what have we... Yeah, have you seen Star Wars Rebels?
Around then.
Okay.
So just before A New Hope.
I haven't, but okay.
Yeah, so very dangerous.
No remorse.
Not tied down by family.
No biological limbs of any kind.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Because his weaknesses, again, is his family.
That's true.
So it's before all that.
Okay, so Darth Vader isader is technically he's much more
skilled as a as a sword well he's been traded trained as an actual by real jedi yeah okay
and he's killed real jedi sure yeah yeah but he is much slower yes and kylo ren we haven't actually
seen kylo ren fight in his prime that That's true. Because he was shot.
And everybody else who got hit with that bowcaster flew like 100 feet.
He's literally the only person who hasn't died immediately after being shot by one of those.
Which is pretty impressive, mate.
I think Vader is more unstoppable.
Kylo Ren can clearly be flustered.
Yes.
And he can be worn down.
I don't think Vader gets worn down in the same way.
No, that's true. We've got mechanized limbs.
So that's true.
For one, yeah.
So I think it would be Vader on brute strength and endurance.
Okay, sure.
Yeah, that's how I think that would go. Do brute strength and endurance. Okay, sure.
That's how I think that would go.
Do you think that Kylo Ren would immediately go to using the Force?
Because he'll stop a blaster bolt, he'll grab a... What do all the buttons on Darth Vader's chest do?
What do they do?
That's a good question.
Well, they used to do a whole bunch of stuff.
What if he just flips all of them using the Force?
We've mentioned this before.
Why is it that when people aren't uh uh when when jedi and and sits uh a lightsaber battling yeah why aren't they
always just switching each other's lightsabers on and on because they're using the force to keep
their own on okay right and vader could probably do the same thing with his chest yeah i mean you
know what's interesting in a recent darth v comic, a guy has the keys, essentially.
Like, you know, how you lock a car to Vader's suit and shuts him down.
Okay.
And so Vader can't move.
And then using the Force, he gets up.
Right.
And empowers the limbs and kills the guy.
Uh-huh.
So he's that kind of...
Okay.
He's got that kind of resolve.
Right, okay.
How long did that...
Okay, when the guy car remoted him,
what did he then do?
Did he walk away?
No, he just kind of stood there
while Vader had weird flashbacks.
Okay.
See, that's the thing.
Like, I think if you stand about...
Yeah.
I reckon Kylo could take this, technically.
Like, he's overconfident and he's easily flustered.
But if he flips all the switches.
If he could.
If he could flip all the switches.
But that's the thing like.
I'd love to see that.
Yeah.
But that's the thing like Darth Vader's never fought anybody who knows.
Like he's never fought a Jedi while wearing that get up.
Yes he has.
He killed a bunch of Jedi after the purge or whatever.
I don't know, man.
Yeah.
I don't think any of them is expecting that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Look, I'm not saying definitively,
but in a way I am saying definitively.
I reckon if he flips all the switches and then beheads him real quick.
Yeah, it's possible.
Then that's done.
Like this could be over very quickly.
I'm going to go the other way.
I'm going to say Vader.
Sometimes we disagree, Mason.
That's true.
Or do we have to bring it to... No don't have to like that's true let me think
oh we should come to a consensus on this okay fine you win no okay great great good look as
long as i win should we do any more or should we save him nah let's save him all right good stuff
i've got a whole bunch here that i haven't even read out. We got hundreds, thousands maybe.
I have no idea how many.
So we really appreciate it.
We love doing this.
We're happy to do one until we're eventually pressured into doing another.
Whatever.
You know what I'm talking about, right?
Yeah, I know what you're talking about, yeah.
Whatever I said then.
You know what it's time for, Mason?
What's it time for?
Our famous segment, What Are We Reading?
What Are We Gonna Read?
I'm doing the thing.
segment what are we reading what we gonna read i'm doing the thing what are we reading today my god mason yes what are you reading uh you know what this i said i
was gonna watch hardcore henry i didn't we already had this conversation yeah i know
just just to refresh okay somebody took previously on earlier this episode yeah Yeah, exactly. So instead I watched the Neighbours films.
You know, Bad Neighbours?
I watched that the other day.
Huh.
Yesterday.
Bad Neighbours 2.
So did I.
What'd you think?
They're pretty good, right?
They're pretty good, man.
They're solid.
They're real solid.
Zac Efron, bloody...
He's funny, man.
He's a funny guy, right?
He's real funny.
Yeah.
What do you think of his bod?
Rockin'.
Not as much in two.
Really?
I thought he was more in two.
Is he?
I can't tell.
I'll be honest.
I'll get you some side-by-side comparisons.
If you could, please.
And then we'll go from there.
No, they're good movies.
I'd say they're equally good, which is unusual.
Yeah, right.
I think two didn't do super well, though.
Like, it did okay, but they thought it was going to be much bigger.
But at least it's not a straight,
you'd think it'd be a straight ahead total retread.
Yeah.
And it is in a way.
There's parts of it, but it kind of twists it.
But it's not, I went into it assuming,
oh, this is going to be hangover too retread,
like exactly the same, except it's women instead of men.
Yeah.
But not different.
There's some twists and turns along the way.
Yeah.
I remember the first time I'd seen Zac Efron really do anything was in 17 again.
I maintain he's really funny in that.
Okay, I haven't seen it, but I'll give it a whirl.
He's got some skills.
Is that Tim Allen?
Is Tim Allen the dad?
No, he's Matthew Perry from He Gets De-Aged or something.
Maybe it's not good.
No, I remember really liking it.
No, it's a classic body swap de-aging film.
Exactly.
I watched Fresh Meat.
I've been watching all of Fresh Meat. I've mentioned this on a previous episode. That's right, you have. It's a good show, de-aging film exactly uh i watched fresh meat i've been watching all the fresh meat i've mentioned this on a previous that's right you have a show right
i finally got around to it it's about uni students living in living in a house together it's a british
show it's got one of the guys from the in-betweeners various comedians and whatnot it pretty much nails
what it's like to kind of go to uni yeah it's not all just like wild parties and and whatever
there's like anxieties with tests and and kind of dealing with living with lunatics and all
this kind of stuff.
So, and there's only like four seasons and that's done.
Yeah.
Nice.
So no, I know you've seen it, Mason.
Yeah.
I recommend that you see it again.
Okay.
Cause you probably missed some of the new ones.
So don't watch Hardcore Henry?
No.
Okay.
You got to get around to that though.
I should.
It's ready to bloody, bloody ready to go.
Don't think that you should do it like an Oculus Rift. Like, strap your iPad to your head.
And then run around the streets of Melbourne.
Vomiting.
Yeah, good.
Mason, letters.
I normally do a build-up.
Yeah, right.
I should have...
The classic one was...
Shh.
Sorry.
Oh, letters.
We love you.
Some letters.
They're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going. Some letters, they're only a take away.
I know they're here right now.
We're going to do letters.
This is from Spencer Kipps, and he's hashtagged Weekly Planet Pod.
Very good.
Because that's what you do if you want to reach the show.
That's what you do.
Okay.
You do it on Twitter.
All right.
God.
What's the best?
God.
What's the best?
Could you hashtag it on Tumblr?
You could, but-
We'd never check it.
Where's that going?
We'd never check it. Yeah. that going? We'd never check it.
I'm afraid of Tumblr.
I don't know what it is.
I've no idea what goes on there.
What is the best sci-fi movie of the 2010s?
Brackets, big fan of the podcast and YouTube channel.
Keep doing good.
Oh.
So, since 2010 forward, Mason.
Okay.
Now, I know you're a big fan of Looper.
I am not.
That is incorrect and wrong.
I would put that up there.
I think it's a good one, but I know you would not.
Correct.
What year did Sunshine come out?
2007.
I can't say it.
Son of a bitch.
Yep, that's right.
Would you count Mad Max as sci-fi?
Or post-apocalyptic?
I guess, but it's so...
It's more steampunk.
Yeah.
I really like Inception.
That's right on the cusp.
That's 2010.
Inception's great. Inception is great. Yeah. I really like Inception. That's right on the cusp. That's 2010. Inception's great.
Inception is great.
Yeah, go on.
And it's got, because it's got, it's got, they've built this premise and there's a whole
world kind of behind it and you're like, well, what, you know, it's a great movie, I think,
and stylish and it looks good and the action's good and stuff like that.
And it's also like, I want to know more about the world.
Like what happened, you know, they built this technology.
Where else have they used it?
That kind of thing, you know?
Right, right.
Cool.
Absolutely.
Do you think we'd get a follow-up to that ever?
No.
Yeah, probably not.
I don't think.
No.
Nolan's bloody doing his Dunkirk's or whatever.
Yeah.
Source code's great as well.
Source code is great.
Yeah.
What about Snowpiercer? I still haven't seen it. It's really good. Yeah. Source code's great as well. Source code is great. Yeah. What about Snowpiercer?
I still haven't seen it.
It's really good.
Yeah.
Got it on your iPad?
It's on Stan,
so don't you worry about that.
What about Ex Machina?
That's also great, yeah.
That's like solid sci-fi as well.
That's true, yeah.
That is like your hardcore thinking man's sci-fi
with a sexy robot.
That's true.
Edge of Tomorrow.
That's sci-fi fantasy. I like it. I uh age of tomorrow that's i like it i don't know i wouldn't
say i love it okay yeah i love tron legacy i know nobody else does i think that came out 2009 did it
oh yeah you idiot oh yeah what about the plan of the apes the new ones i like them a lot but i've
i will not go back to them i don't think think. They're not compelling, but I'll watch Inception bloody heaps of times, mate.
I'm going to say Ex Machina.
Favourite?
Or Snowpiercer.
What about 2011's Real Steel featuring Hugh Jackman?
It's totally fine.
I think I watched it on a plane or something.
I've never ever seen it.
Have you seen Attack the Block?
No, I've been meaning to watch that for ages. I've heard it's amazing. Yeah, the Block? No. I've been meaning to watch that for age.
I've heard it's amazing.
Yeah.
I've been, hey, I got to watch that.
Yeah.
It's got, what's his name?
Especially if John Boyega is going to be poorly interviewed by us in this podcast.
That's right, Mason.
We're going to get him.
Is that what we're doing?
I have no idea.
Do we do that?
Is that what we're doing?
No, I don't know if we do that.
Yeah.
It was very nice of people on Twitter because John Boyega put out a tweet and he's like,
hey, I'm going to add podcasts to my interview schedule next year.
And some people were very nice and were like,
go on the Weekly Planet.
And I'm like, do we do that?
Should we do it?
Should we start some campaign or just leave it?
What we could do...
Bear in mind, neither of us have ever interviewed anybody.
Yeah.
What we could do is just wait until he comes to Australia
and mill about his hotel.
Okay.
All right, we'll do that instead.
Yeah, great.
Sounds good.
Okay, cool.
I'm going to think on that.
Okay, cool.
Next question?
Sure.
Next letter?
Yeah.
This is from Kyle underscore the underscore Guile.
Since Cap's team is on the run now,
what do you think of a smaller scale Secret Avengers movie?
Great.
That'd be really good.
That would be very Winter Soldier-esque in that way.
Yeah.
You're low-key, you're down on the street,
you're running through a mall wearing a hat over your face.
That's right.
You're wearing the MCU, I'm being discreet, uniform,
which is baseball cap, aviator sunglasses, leather jacket.
Just put it on.
Just put it on.
No one will recognize you.
Yeah.
I would love that.
I wonder if we're going to get a bit of that
in the next Avengers film
because there's talk,
there's speculation
that we're going to get two Avengers teams.
We're going to get a secret underground version
and then you Stark official.
So I wonder whether we are going to see something like that.
I hope so.
Yeah, that'd be cool.
Because we've got Nomad.
That's right.
Ready to go.
Do you think he's just going to use an oven door?
He'd have to.
Painted red, white and blue.
No, that's cool.
It's a good idea.
I don't think they'd be able to fit it in between now and now.
No.
And I'm sure they won't call it the Secret Avengers.
I don't think you'd call it Secret Avengers.
I don't think you could.
That's right.
Well, we can't move on until we decide.
Okay, you can.
Yes.
You can.
One of us has to relent.
Yep.
This is from Runaway Rogan.
Do you think that Rogue One is going to be better than Force Awakens?
Also, grab that gem.
Hashtag with your plan upon.
So you reach the show.
I think it's going to be better.
Ooh.
I want it to be better?
Yep.
I don't know. That's the oh answer we can't move on until you
you know what okay fine even though there's been a bunch of reshoots that doesn't necessarily
mean anything i think it is going to be better uh-huh because i really like the force awakens
yep but it is a retread in a lot of ways yes it is but also i liked i knew that kind of going in so i wasn't disappointed i'm like well i know what jj abrams
does we're gonna get like a rehash yeah this i really want to see something different and i'm
gonna put a lot of faith in it and say yes it's going to be better new territory stuff also what
do you think about the theory that uh snoke is boba fett that's the latest one it was on reddit
what why would he have the force exactly
somebody's put a it's a very very involved uh scenario and he's put all the pieces together
like he's all melted because he's been in the sala that's it that's that's that works yeah but
other than that no no it's why would a why would a about like a like a dirty old bounty hunter
a dirty old new zealand bounty dirty old New Zealand bounty hunter.
Become a Jedi and rebuild the Empire for purposes of getting back on like three people.
Yeah.
And like he'd just want Han Solo, wouldn't he really?
Like ultimately.
And ultimately Han Solo kicked him into that Sarlacc pit by accident.
Yeah.
Not really.
It'd be better served just with a conversation.
Hey, sorry about
that i apologize i mean you did you did capture me and put me in that weird block so you know
yeah fair enough although i guess maybe one of the theories is that he's trying to rebuild the
mandalorian culture but we haven't seen any of that but again there's no indication that that
guy's good at anything let alone knows the force that. That's true. Yeah. I have a new Snoke theory.
Would you like to hear it?
That I've come up with.
It's not a joke one.
Okay.
No, my theory is, and I'm sure there's a thousand versions.
I bet you're the first one.
Okay.
It's that Snoke is all the evil that was in Luke Skywalker.
What, and it spilled out?
Yep.
In the cave?
No, like some- Like he physically separated? Yes, he did. Like he went, Yeah, exactly. Yeah. when it spilled out yep in the cave no like
like he physically separated it
yes he did
like he went
yeah exactly yeah
somewhere between 6 and 7
you know what
yep
I don't hate that
there you go
but it's a whole lot of new territory
that's what I'm saying
yeah
I'm not against it Mason
it would have to be done very well
because my feeling is
that if it turns out the one of the
reasons it can't be or that shouldn't be boba fett or jar jar binks or lobot or yeah whoever
is because for so many people force awakens was their first star wars movie right so because this
guy every you know a huge chunk of the audience is going to be like i don't know who that is
that being said he does say that he's witnessed the rise and fall of the Empire.
So we'd have to be around to see that.
What about the fall and rise?
And he's got into...
Yeah.
Other way around.
I guess so.
Yeah, that works.
But yeah, he was there for all...
Fixed it.
He's there for all the significant moments.
Uh-huh.
But I think it's implied that he saw the Republic fall.
Oh, okay.
So I don't hate it though, Mason.
Thank you.
That's why he's all goopy, because he looks like Darth Vader, but he's not Darth Vader.
He's not Darth Vader.
He looks like Darth Vader because he's got the Skywalker evil in him.
Everybody tweet at Mason how dumb that is.
Please do.
Please do.
No, I don't hate it.
With minutiae.
Tweet at me minutiae why it couldn't work.
And I'll block you.
I'll block you all.
I won't.
Do you block?
No.
I'm not a blocker yeah you know
what i do do if someone is a doodoo there you go if someone's a real prick and it very rarely
happens i mute them yeah because i think it's better than a block because if they block people
like that i'd assume they'd be like i got to the winner yeah exactly but if you mute them
presumably they're just screaming at you forever and That's true, yeah. And they don't know. Yeah.
Yeah.
Last one.
Because it's our 150th special episode spectacular,
I thought we'd do four questions.
Because in Return of the Jedi he's all dressed in black and then in Force Awakens he's all dressed in white.
Because the evil's gone.
So it's like Superman 3 where he splits.
It's exactly like Superman 3.
Oh, you didn't say.
Is Force Awakens, which is going to be better?
Rogue One? Oh, uh, that's a good question.
No, Rogue One. I think Rogue One's going to be
better. I want it to be better more than I
definitely know that. I think it will be, I think it also, it'll
be, you know, it'll be less divisive, certainly.
Okay. I think if it's a
good movie,
99% of the people who are
Star Wars fans are going to be like, it's a
good movie because of the action and the casting and the acting
and what have you.
Yeah, yeah.
But I think Force Awakens, even among Star Wars fans,
it split people.
Sure.
I think it's mostly positive.
Yeah, but I think Force Awakens, like some people,
a decent chunk of people were like, well, this is a return to form
and another decent chunk of people were like, rehash, don't like it.
I think it's a good jumping off point.
Yeah, absolutely. And I think because you kind of had to rehash, don't like it. I think it's a good jumping off point. Yeah, absolutely.
And I think because you kind of had to rehash to get new fans on board as well.
Yeah.
You couldn't just be like, this is a straight continuation
and you need to kind of reset the universe.
So I get why they did it.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I enjoyed it.
This is from Mr. Mixoplexconfins.
Great.
You know that one?
Oh, he directed Wanted, yeah.
Yeah, he did.
Did Mr. Airsoil Baso ever have a sausage sizzle at Bunnings?
I heard this from another famous Aussie at Smitty Chan.
Apparently said that.
Hashtag with your planet pod.
Do you want to explain that?
I love a Bunnings sausage sizzle.
When you go to a Bunnings, which is like our hardware store,
our Home Depot, every one of them, always, without fail,
has a tent set up with sausages on the go where you can bloody grab a sausage and bread with some sauce and some cheese or
some onions or whatever you want i never walk past them neither ever i i have if i've just had
lunch i will stop for a sausage me too yeah love sausage in bread. Do you go before or after? Going to Bunnings.
Yeah.
Oftentimes I'm just...
You do both.
No, oftentimes.
Yeah, I have done that.
And sometimes I am not...
I'm going to Bunnings.
I just see the sausages.
Oh, you drop in.
Just drop in for a sausage.
Fair enough.
See, I'll get on the way out
because I'm like,
this would be my reward
for going to a hardware store
because I hate these places.
Now that I think about it,
it's mostly way in and way out.
I do both.
Yeah.
Good stuff. Now, Mason think about it, it's mostly way in and way out. I do both. Yeah. Good stuff.
Now, Mason, before we wrap it up, I'm going to be on the Steel Wars live call-in show.
Oh, yes.
This Saturday, our time.
Great.
Australian EST, 11 a.m. Saturday.
But if you're in the U.S., Eastern Standard Time, 9 p.m. Friday.
Pacific Time, 6 p.m. Fridays.
Friday, this Friday.
Apparently, I'm not exactly sure how it works. Steel and I will be having a convo. Correct. Pacific time 6pm Fridays Friday this Friday apparently
I'm not exactly sure
how it works
still and I will be
having a convo
correct
and then people
are going to call in
and
abuse you
yeah
you can abuse me
so if I've muted you
on Twitter
now's your opportunity
to get at me directly
if you've been like
I've been shouting at him
for quite some time
and he hasn't responded
in any way
bear in mind
I haven't muted you
if you're not a total prick over a long period of in mind, I haven't muted you if you're not a total prick
over a long period of time.
Right.
If I haven't answered you, it's just because.
We get a lot of tweets.
We get a fair bit of feedback, yeah.
That's going to be great.
Yeah, so I'm hoping that goes well.
So it'd be nice to chat to some people live.
I've never done that, so it'd be interesting.
It's going to be great.
I mean, I chat to you every week, but.
It's not live.
No, that's true.
Secret, I pre-record all my responses.
I don't know if you know that.
I'm not even here.
This is all written.
He pushes a button on a box and I'm here.
Good stuff.
Oh, Dan, just quickly, happy birthday to Abraham.
Lincoln.
Yes.
Our first president.
He's from his wife, Hope.
He's turned 33.
They've had 10 years together and he's been awesome
and he even stayed...
Four score and seven years
you've been together.
Okay.
He's been awesome
and he even stayed through cancer.
Wow.
Happy 33rd birthday.
Happy birthday.
Yeah.
I don't normally do a birthday shout out, Mason,
but I've done it this time.
Because you hate birthdays.
I hate birthdays.
And Mondays.
And Mondays.
But you love lasagna.
I love...
You hate that bloody dog, Odie,
that lives with you.
You hate Nermal.
I do.
John's a pain in my ass.
Yeah.
You don't even have a job.
Why do you hate Mondays?
I guess because John hates Mondays because he has to go to work.
Yeah, you just bear the wrath.
You bear the wrath of John, yeah.
John's severe depression.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What a sad world that is.
Just a man living with his cat who hates him.
Yeah. It's pretty great.
Anyway, Mason, where can people find us?
Oh, we're at Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter and Gmail and Facebook and Bandcamp.
We've got some audio commentaries.
We'll probably do a new one pretty soon-ish.
Hopefully.
And we might have some extra stuff coming up over the next couple of weeks.
Because we recorded some stuff last week.
We just got to sort out how that's all going to come together. week we just got to get sorted out
some how that's
all coming together
how we're going to
deliver it
that's also true
we'll hopefully get it
up on Patreon
a little bit earlier
but regardless
you'll see it
yeah here's a good
idea
if you like the show
and you want to
maybe get some
surprise bonus content
just subscribe on
iTunes
we might just
throw it into the
feed
maybe
but not this week
definitely
but maybe next week definitely not this week
definitely
but maybe next week
preemptively do that
maybe
I'll also follow
the weekly planet
on Twitter
I'm at Wikipedia Brown
on Twitter
yes
I'm at Mr. Sunday Movies
let's see
if you want to
help out the show
you could go to
patreon.com
slash Mr. Sunday Movies
throw in a buck a month
correct
keep the lights on
keep them on
we've got an Amazon affiliate link in the episode description.
In the script show.
That's the one.
So if you're going to buy something on Amazon anyway, as you often do, buy some bloody anything.
You buy some light bulbs.
You buy some-
Buy some eggs.
Adult entertainment products.
I don't know.
What do you like?
Sex eggs.
Yeah.
Buy that DVD you've always wanted of the Indominus Rex and the alien queen making out.
Buy that.
Uh,
and,
just,
you click on the link,
you go through the regular Amazon,
pay the low prices.
We get a kickback somehow.
Correct.
Uh,
what else do we do?
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what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what Correct. Pretty good. Pretty bloody good, mate. I just want to quickly point out that Raw Collings, who does a lot of animated stuff.
He's at the Weekly Planet on Twitter.
But he also has a Patreon, patreon.com slash rawcollings.
He's finishing up university.
Oh, great.
He's doing a bit of bloody video editing.
Yeah.
And his bloody stuff's on point, mate.
You should subscribe to his YouTube channel.
Because he makes a lot of animated Weekly Planet.
And he runs the Weekly Planet feed, as we mentioned.
Yeah.
And he does that out of the goodness of his heart.
So I'm going to chip some money in there from us as well.
Great.
I'll link that below also.
That's it.
It's all right.
I'm not going to contribute anything,
but I did alter his university transcripts, so he passes.
Good.
That's the greatest gift of all.
You're welcome.
You're welcome, Robert.
That's the show, Mason.
That's the show, I think, Mason. Thanks for 150 fantastic episodes.
I've been on 150 of them.
How many have you been on?
No, you were sick or something.
I don't know.
Thank you.
I was away both times.
That's right, yeah.
Well done on that fantastic 148 episodes, Mason.
Nice.
I'll see you in two weeks when you've cracked the 150.
I was going to spring that on you in two weeks,
but you bloody beat me to it because I meant to do it in episode 100.
I'm like, fuck.
So now I have to wait 50 episodes and you bloody beat me to it.
I've waited a year.
That's right.
Yeah.
Oh, well.
Thanks for listening, though.
We appreciate it.
Thanks for listening.
Thanks, everybody, for telling people about the show yep enjoying it thanks for your nice reviews yeah
always thanks for letting us know we're not alone in this this universe correct yeah this is some
kind of ruse all these statistics well i feel maybe that was going to be the revelation is that
you've been building like hundreds of fake Twitter accounts.
People are like, hey, I love the show.
I love the show, mate.
And I'm like, oh, this feels pretty good.
That thing's not even on.
No.
Shouting into nothing.
All right.
Thanks, guys.
We'll see you at episode 151.
Grab that gem, you guys.
Bye.
149.
I mean, officially.
Yeah, that's right.
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