The Weekly Planet - 150 SUPERHERO SHOWDOWN!

Episode Date: August 29, 2016

This week marks the 150th episode of The Weekly Planet! And to celebrate we just do a regular episode and repeat the Superhero Showdown thing we do occasionally. Plus we talk Guardians Of The Gal...axy Volume 2, Steve Rogers dropping to role of Captain America, Thor: Ragnarok, Captain Marvel, Gambit losing its director and a Justice League Dark movie going ahead.3:55 Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 2 concept art7:08 Captain America is no longer Captain America14:41 Odin back for Thor: Ragnarok16:58 Guardians Trailer (the weird Russian one)25:03 Captain Marvel Director26:56 Gambit loses a director27:25 Dark Universe Justice League Dark movie31:10 Superhero Showdown!1:25:29 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:27:55 Letters It’s Time For LettersAmazon affiliate link: https://amzn.to/2oQConrRAWCollings Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/rawcollingsPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesMr Sunday Movies YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/lB90W2The Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind our T-Shirts here: https://goo.gl/q6gE9C  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet, official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com, where we talk movies, comics, TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my my coast nick mason 150 150 150 century and a half century and a half that about sums up how we've been going yeah yeah what progress we've made in 150 episodes it's just
Starting point is 00:01:03 me shouting incoherently again. Absolutely. Now, are you in favor of doing something extra special that we definitely haven't planned or just doing a regular episode? Which way is a superhero showdown? Regular, I guess. Oh, then we'll do that one.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Okay, good. Okay, good. It's a crowd favorite, Mason. It is. It's a crowd pleaser. Exactly. Also, we got the listeners, the weekly wackers, to send in suggestions. And if we don't do them now, they'll disappear in Twitter forever.
Starting point is 00:01:31 That's right. We'll never be able to find them again. They'll be gone. But Mason, as you know, which you would know because this is your 150th episode, we've got to do the news first. Don't look a day over 120. You know what I mean? I know what you mean.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Yeah. What's that? Three years nearly? Yeah. Fuck's sake. three years nearly? Yeah. Fuck's sake. All right. Very good. Mason, did you see the Guardians of the Galaxy concept art?
Starting point is 00:01:53 Yes, I did. Just one piece. They're out in space. Out in space. They're up against it though, aren't they? Yes. Do you know what the name of the creature was they were fighting? I feel that you've sprung this on me.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Yeah, I have. And I don't know what it is, and you've looked it up. Correct. Well, it's not a real thing. None of it's real. It's not from the comics. It's not from the comics. James Gunn said it was the Abolisca.
Starting point is 00:02:19 I don't even really know. With that A at the end? Yeah, there's an A. Huh. It's Abolis-S-K-A, like scar, like the music. Abolis Scar. Scar, yeah. It's like a Tyrannosaurus head.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Obelisk Scar. Obelisk Scar. Obelix. They're fighting Obelix. I like that guy, man. From the Asterix cartoons. He fell into the cauldron of potion. When he was a baby, so he's always super strong.
Starting point is 00:02:37 I liked him. Yeah, what do you think? Looks great. Interesting, though, most of the team are just wearing the little... Oh, the mask the spacey breathy masks well I guess
Starting point is 00:02:48 most of them can be in space for a limited amount of time because they've all got enhancements that's true Peter Quill
Starting point is 00:02:55 we know can survive for a little bit of time also he's not entirely human that's true as we discovered
Starting point is 00:03:01 also it's concept art so maybe they're just in front of a backdrop at a train station or something oh sure that's some street graph you know it is That's true. As we discovered. Also, it's concept art, so maybe they're just in front of a backdrop at a train station or something. Oh, sure. That's some street graph. You know it is.
Starting point is 00:03:10 That's some of that G-rated graffiti that I love so much. That's right. You love Scar. Space octopus. That's right. So apparently this is a monster that the Guardians have been hired to fight. Okay. So I guess the acting is kind of, yeah, like the Expendables,
Starting point is 00:03:24 but fun and good and people enjoy their movies now when he says yes this so it's a monster they've been hired to fight at i presume at the start of the movie right yeah it's going to lead into something i think so i don't think if this was like the big thing no that they would know about it this is pest control basically exactly did you see the little baby groot banging about yes i did apparently he's not going to grow it like that's going to be him for the whole movie. He's not going to kind of Groot out. If that's an expression. It's Deez out.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Because of Vin Diesel. Of course. He's not going to Deez out at any moment. Looks great though. It's coming out. It's like next April or something. How do you think they're going to do the Groot voice? I mean, it's still going to be Vin Diesel.
Starting point is 00:04:03 That's a good question. I hadn't even considered that. Are they going to use Vin Diesel's normal girly voice? Is that how they're going to do the group voice? I mean, it's still going to be Vin Diesel. That's a good question. I hadn't even considered that. Are they going to use Vin Diesel's normal girly voice? Is that how they're going to do it? His normal voice is much different, isn't it? Yeah. Not girly, I would say, but yeah, he doesn't have that. Do you think it's going to be squeaky?
Starting point is 00:04:16 I think so. They'll have to do something, right? Yeah. Hmm. I don't know. That's interesting. What if it's just regular person voice? That would be okay too, but he's got little lungs.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I don't see how that would work. Apparently they're going to play with the idea of whether it really is the same. Right. Well, it is technically because he's from that twig or whatever. Uh-huh. And he's got all the memories, but he's kind of different. It's a Star Trek 3 scenario. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Search for Spock. Exactly. The best Star Trek. Mm-hmm. The one with Christopher Lloyd. Isn't that six? No, that's three. He's the Klingon guy.
Starting point is 00:04:50 In six? No, he's three. Is he not in six as well? No, Kirk kicks him off a cliff in three. Doesn't mean he can't be back for six. That's true. It is Star Trek. All right, Mason.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Let's do the next bit of news. Okay, great. Now, shockingly this week it was announced by the now shockingly this week it was announced that the russo brothers just want to point out that that that was the second take because i coughed and james presumably edited it out of course i have no i have oh i'm a professional 150 episodes mason i think i i think i've got a handle on it by now next week somebody sends us in like a supercut of just me coughing just 150 episodes of me going you're not editing out that'd be great what are we talking about uh so yeah the russo brothers
Starting point is 00:05:32 have confirmed that captain america is no longer captain america that's right now it was presumed did you presume that after yeah because yeah gives up the shield gives up the shield traditionally that means he's not captain America. Correct. No more. No more, yeah. So that's it. I mean, I guess it's nice to get confirmation, but people are saying, does this make way for the variations on the Captain America character?
Starting point is 00:05:55 So Nomad, Cap Wolf. Sure, yep. Other ones, presumably. The Captain. Oh, is that when he was like, I'm sick of USA and I'm sick of Watergate or whatever. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Okay. Do you think we're going to be getting any of that? I'm just going to be the captain. Captain of what? Shut up. I thought it through. I thought it sounded good. Um, I think we are.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Yeah. Yeah. The question is, where's the shield going to go? Yeah. Because he's busted Falcon out of jail, right? Correct. He busted them all out. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:06:24 So it's not going to be passed to him, presumably. And Bucky's in frozen storage. Yeah. So are we going to get a US agent, maybe? I would love to see a US agent. Who's going to get the shield, yeah. Yeah, so you think maybe a Nuke character. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:37 I would love that. Or a Nuke character. Well, Nuke's... Yeah, they wouldn't cross him over. They wouldn't cross him over. Nah. Yeah. I'm trying to think, who was on Stark's team that could have it?
Starting point is 00:06:46 Vision? Yeah, classic combo. Do those colours clash though? Yes. Atrocious. I won't have it. Unless they repainted the Vision. Red, white and blue.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Like they did War Machine. Yeah. What about War Machine? And the shield doesn't need it. No, I know that, but it's symbolic. It's a symbol for symbolism. It would cut down on his aerodynamics. Yeah, I guess it would.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Maybe that big minigun on his shoulder. But the big minigun on his shoulder, that probably cuts down aerodynamics. That's true. So what you're saying is put the shield on a stick and put it down the barrel of a minigun, like an umbrella in a tropical dream. That's exactly what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I think that would do it. Yeah. So we got Black Widow. It's not going to be Black Widow. Spider-Man. It's not going to be Spider-Man. It could be Black Widow, I guess. She wouldn't take it now.
Starting point is 00:07:37 She probably wouldn't, yeah. Also, she did shoot Black Panther all those times. She did, didn't she? Yeah, he didn't love that. Maybe Renner? No, I reckon new character. I reckon new character. shoot Black Panther all those times she did didn't she yeah he didn't love that maybe Renner ooh no I reckon new character I reckon new character
Starting point is 00:07:48 they're like this is and it'll be it'll be the USA it'll be a USA kind of thing where they
Starting point is 00:07:53 super enhance him and he's more powerful than Captain America but he's mental he's bad news he's bad news but when do you slot that in
Starting point is 00:08:01 do you put that into the Infinity War movie oh yeah like do you think they'll just have it on storage and then when Captain America comes out, they're like, he's just shield back. It was in a drawer.
Starting point is 00:08:11 I reckon there's time for it. You do like a press conference. Right. Like Iron Man 3 style where you bring out the new recruit. Right. And you see Cap see him on TV and be like, this guy. Prick. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I really shouldn't have given that shield up. I mean, there was no reason for me to give the shield up. Ultimately, I'd beaten Stark and he was on the ground and I could have just taken it. By beaten, do you mean like he beat him or he severely beat him or both? Both of those things. Good, yes. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I could have taken the shield. I regret it now. And then maybe, you know what? It might just be brief. It might just be, and then he has to get from, there might just be a scene where he has to get from one room in like a secret headquarters to another. Right, right. And the US agent's in the way with the shield.
Starting point is 00:08:57 And he's like, you know what? I'm going to beat you up and I'm going to take the shield back. Because that's what I'm about. Yeah, absolutely. I'd love that. Me too. And now that i have it here you go falcon cut down on some of your aerodynamics with this this year because it wouldn't work for
Starting point is 00:09:10 him either he puts on it's on his arm he'd always be twirling to the left he'd be going in circles and also he's like a bird that's been hit in the head and then the shield and the magnetic thing's gone you know right yeah i get you and also his wings are shields that's true he's already got shields already got shields yeah i i want to see bucky take but i don't know whether whether whether they even need to give it to somebody else like i don't know whether i'm i'm i don't know if they're if they're going to actually give it to a significant character anymore yeah unless because what's his name? The actor. Chris Evans has said he's just going to be Captain America for however long.
Starting point is 00:09:48 He's like, yeah, I'll keep doing them, whatever. Absolutely, yeah. So we'll see. I was going to, well, you've probably got something good to say, but I was going to say, why don't you just tape the shield to Bucky's stump? Yeah, that'll do it. Just wrap some duct tape around him. That's one of the things that annoyed me.
Starting point is 00:10:04 He'd be really good at that Homer Simpson running in a circle on the floor. Exactly, yeah. And it would remain there until he shot enough times the duct tape comes off and then it falls into a river or whatever. That's one of the things that annoyed me in Civil War. Remember when one of the bad guys throws a grenade
Starting point is 00:10:18 and Captain America flips his shield over so it's like a dome over it and he puts it down and it blows up. And I'm like, that would have wrecked the straps. gonna how's he gonna hold that for the rest of the movie how's he gonna hold it i didn't even notice straps aren't made about him is it straps or is it metal or is it magnetic in that one i guess it doesn't matter no it's straps in that one yeah because you see him give it the scoop it up give it a scoop yeah i guess yeah great um now the russo brothers also said that one of the ideas for captain America 3, if they couldn't do Civil War, which was the ideal situation, they're going to introduce the Mad Bomb, which turns people into zombie-like berserkers.
Starting point is 00:10:54 So the movie would have been Captain America dealing with beating up regular people who are sort of zombies. But you can't really do zombies because it's this kind of PG-13 universe. Yeah, right. So you can't have him just severing heads. That sounds like a Captain America movie from the 70s. Captain America versus the Mad Bomb. Like Get Smart versus the Nude Bomb. Right, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:17 I remember. What do you think of that? I mean, I don't think that would have been better. No. What a bizarre backup plan they have there. I'm sure that was one of like 50 things we've got this amazing script here and it's got thrills and chills and laughs and and good action sequences goofs and gaffs goofs and gaffs and like like a really creative battle sequences between all these amazing superheroes or we could just have captain
Starting point is 00:11:41 america just running at a whole bunch of berserker regular humans and just beating them up in a line just 90 minutes of that just thwack punch also that also if they did do that i'd be i'd be i kind of want to see marvel zombies i don't know how we could see it or if they'd ever do it but i feel like that's kind of a cop-out like the way they did stark's drinking this kind of piss war you know what i mean yeah just sort of in and out yeah yeah absolutely what you got something to say i went to say something but then what but you didn't audibly do anything so it's just gonna look like i had a stroke well you've been on your way like the there's been enough foreshadowing in i feel in the show in the last 149 episodes that if it was built into you having a stroke in this episode people be like yeah i, I get it.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Someone make a super cut of my gradual decline. Remember all the times he couldn't pronounce antimicrobials? He's on his way. Did you have a thing to say? No. Or if I did, I forgot it. Good stuff. You saw the on-set photos of Anthony Hopkins as Odin.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I did. People have labelled him Hoboden. Very good. Thank you. Didn't think of it, but you're welcome. Deity derelict. That's very good. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:12:52 So Loki's on the throne of Asgard, obviously, so he hasn't killed Odin. I thought he would have imprisoned him, but I like that. He's kind of sentient man and banished him the way that Thor was banished. So how long has he been on Earth then? I guess since 2014? I guess he would have had plenty of time with all the dimensions all flipping about. Just go back to Asgard for a second, boot him into Earth.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Boot him into their moles. What I think is interesting though, Thor got kicked to Earth and he got it together fairly quickly. Odin just falls apart. You know what I mean? Like he just can't cope. He's got no skills. Yeah. He's not adaptable.
Starting point is 00:13:31 No, he's really not. He's too old. I liken to the fact that my mom now has an iPhone, but she refuses to text. I think it's like that. Odin's arrived in the modern world and he's just like- Not getting a job. Not going to do any of this. Not going to do any of this stuff. Subway thank you not out of the street i can't die so
Starting point is 00:13:49 i just whatever yeah yeah so i think they're gonna have to go back and get him at at some point apparently he's going to become some kind of doom doomsday prophecy guy because if it's a ragnarok yeah then yeah that that that totally works so no i think that's interesting unless loki like messed with his memories and that, which is entirely possible. Yeah, I think he would have, because otherwise, what's he... Surely he would... Because, I mean...
Starting point is 00:14:12 I mean, Odin knows Jane Foster. He would know of the Avengers. He would just go to Stark headquarters. He knows Stellan Skarsgård. He does know... Oh, Stellan Skarsgård's going to be right there. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Running around pantsless. Running around just twitching. He's know, oh, Stellan Skarsgård will be right there. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Running around pantsless. Running around just twitching. He's so happy to help out. Absolutely. Yeah, no, it must be. It's got to be a memory thing. Kat Dennings. Yep.
Starting point is 00:14:34 That was hard to watch in the second one from memory. I always like also when they do, when they're like on set photos of this character, it's always a split and it's one where they're all serious and in character and there's one where it's just like anthony are we gonna know yeah yeah uh before there's one more bit of marvel news but we before we talk about that uh people want us to talk about the guardians trailer now this isn't guardians of the galaxy yeah this is a russian superhero movie my experience with russian superhero movies is total garbage disappointment yeah day watch night watch yeah which a lot of people love Russian superhero movie. My experience with Russian superhero movies is... Total garbage. Disappointment.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Yeah. Day watch, night watch. Yeah. Which a lot of people love. Yeah, I found nonsensical, and there's a guy called The Bear, who always says he's... He doesn't turn into a bear. He always boasts that he's going to transform into a bear. He never turns into a bear.
Starting point is 00:15:21 This trailer... Oh, boy. Straight up bear man. Yeah. Although we don't see him transforming into a bear. I think he's just a bear man. No, he's the regular guy. Oh, is he?
Starting point is 00:15:30 There's a guy there. Right at the end of the trailer, they're like, we've built you all these special suits for your superpowers. And he's like, where's mine? Yeah. That's him. That's the bear guy. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Right. And they just gave him a minigun. A minigun. Now, you're a minigun aficionado. So I know people want to hear your take on this. You love a minigun minute. I do. Yes, that's true. It's a famous recurring segment. Yeah, right. They just gave him a minigun. A minigun. Now, you're a minigun aficionado, so I know people want to hear your take on this. You love a minigun minute. I do, yes, that's true. It's a famous recurring segment.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Yeah, look, so far it's very CGI. It's Russian. Yes. There was some... This trailer had a very odd mix of real stuff and CGI. The quad tank walking thing I thought looked quite good. That looked great, yeah. But other times, not as good.
Starting point is 00:16:03 And there was a scene in, I think, daytime where there's a whole, like, just a whole, you know, all these ranks of trucks and tanks and stuff moving along. And I'm like, oh, that's real stuff, or it looks real at least. But then there's another one where it's nighttime and there are all these sort of trucks converging on a character in the center. And it's just awful CGI.
Starting point is 00:16:24 And they're all like all the tanks are moving in like the this unison that would only work if they're just 3d models moving together yeah cut and paste yeah what do you what do you think what do you what do you what do you bloody what do you reckon about it i don't like it i'm not gonna say it i mean it looks fun whatever yeah it's just it's not my thing you know what it what? It's an oddly cut trailer. Yeah, sure. Like it's oddly, it feels like a trailer from the 80s. Okay. Like, you know, there's the- But with slightly better special effects.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Yeah, like the Batman 89 trailer, I think. Right, okay, sure. Which is- Oh, the pacing-wise. The pacing-wise, and it's just got like odd scenes sort of smacked together. Yeah, yeah. But it's got that modern day sensibility of this fast action and these slow-mo bits and all that sort of stuff but they haven't quite put it together
Starting point is 00:17:10 right so it's oddly paced maybe i will see it you've convinced me was that where are you where are you gonna see it where are you right i guess torrent i guess i don't know because it's not gonna get a cinema release here no and like it's going to be months before it's on Netflix or whatever yeah yeah or maybe straight to Netflix maybe yeah that's it
Starting point is 00:17:30 look yeah look I'm not paying $9.99 for it let me tell you I'll just FYI I said last week I was going to watch Hardcore Henry I didn't get around to it well that can be your what you're reading for this week you just say it again
Starting point is 00:17:43 it does very much remind me though of that Nightwatch Daywatch kind of situation. Did you see Ben-Hur? Because it's the same director as Nightwatch Daywatch. Yes, it had wanted. Yeah. Bersklof. Timon Bersklof.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Timon Bersklof. Yeah, so you didn't obviously see Ben-Hur. No. What were they thinking? Putting $100 million into a fucking Ben-Hur movie in 2016. Are you out of your mind? It wasn't me. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Do you know what I'm saying? Exactly. I know exactly what you're talking about. What? We're tired of... Apparently it's not even terrible. Yeah. Like, it's just like, okay.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Is there an homage to the... Apparently, in the previous version of Ben-Hur, in one of the chariot races, they didn't clear the background correctly, and so there's a little red sports car, just somebody driving through the background, like, woo-hoo-hoo. And there's also a guy that's, like,
Starting point is 00:18:40 actually trampled to death. Oh, was there an homage to that? I hope so. So you saw it? No. Okay. Come on. All right. Get out of there an homage to that? I hope so. So you saw it? No. Okay. Come on. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Get out of here. It's not something I'm against. If it was on TV, I would watch it because I've seen Ben-Hur, the original. There's some good stuff in that movie. See, I wouldn't see if it was on TV. No? Because there'd be so many ads that it'd stretch to like three and a half hours. Okay, Netflix then.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Okay. You know what? I'd put it on as I'm editing something else. Okay, great. And my sign for, oh, I want to watch this is I'll stop it. I started watching The Little Prince, which is like an animated Netflix thing. I just put it on. I know what The Little Prince is.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I know, but I'm just telling, there are other people that listen to this. No, there aren't. It's not just me and you. No, there aren't. The reason I've kept doing this is because you've constantly promised me we're the only two involved in this conversation. But like five minutes in, I'm like, you know what? This actually looks good.
Starting point is 00:19:26 So I stopped it. So that's the benchmark for me. Right. The Ben- The Ben-chmark. So do you think this kills the swords and sandals? Do you think that's it? I think it was a dead-
Starting point is 00:19:35 I mean, it was done, but do you think- It was done for a while. Do you think that's like the final rock to the head to all producers out there? Do you think it's the final trample? Yeah, that's right. To the genre that is a man getting trampled. When was the last? See, I mean, Gladiator kicked it off.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Yeah, but that was the last, I would say, massively successful one. Yeah. Like, Troy did okay. Yeah. But it didn't, it wasn't critically lauded. No. But it made money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:02 And nobody quotes from Troy. Immortality! Take it! It's yours! Okay, just that bit. And nobody quotes from Troy. Immortality! Take it! It's yours! Okay, just that bit. And it's just us. We're the only people who do it. No, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:14 What was the last? I can look it up. Was it Exodus? Gods and Kings. Oh, yeah. That tanked as well. People hated that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Yeah. Movies. Was Ben Hur, was the, you know, the much beloved original Ben-Hur, was that also a remake? I don't know. But it probably was from like a movie from like the 30s. Right, exactly. I mean, okay, I guess like 300 counts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:37 And, but also like Spartacus, the TV series is like quite successful. There has been incarnations of it that worked, but no. Oh, you know what? Hercules was okay, but did that make... And also, that doesn't count. Yeah. That's not Ben-Hur. And it's not like a serious...
Starting point is 00:20:51 That's sword and sorcery. Oh, you're right. Even though there wasn't actual sorcery. No, but there was enough fantastical elements. And it was irreverent, and it was kind of modern day. Right, right. It had enough modern day sensibility in reference to it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:07 You'd be like, oh, that's a fun film I watch. But this is like, I've got to know about the history of Ben-Hur. Boo. Boo. Yeah. Boo. Anyway, it's done, isn't it? Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:19 What's next, Mason? Probably just remake Shadow again. See how that goes give that a bloody go give that a red hot go even like Gods of Egypt I mean again that's more magic
Starting point is 00:21:31 and whatever but that did not do well and that cost like $130 million yes it did I listened to an episode of How Did This Get Made on it
Starting point is 00:21:37 and it sounds fascinating I've been wanting to watch it just because I've heard it's terrible but I like the idea of a giant snake
Starting point is 00:21:44 you know how it is so that terrible, but I like the idea of a giant snake. You know how it is. Yeah. So that's the thing. I love the idea of any of this kind of fantasy epic where it's history, but it turned out that what we think was magic was really high technology or whatever. Right, right, yeah. I like that.
Starting point is 00:21:59 I like Stargate. I like some of the other things. Even though Stargate doesn't really hold up, the movie. Yeah, the movie doesn't hold up. The movie series is fun. Yeah, sure. Richard Dean Anderson. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Did you see the trailer for the rebooted reboot of the new MacGyver? He's got different hair, doesn't he? He does have different hair. Is it better? I didn't watch it. It's the same guy. It's still the guy from X-Men First Class. But it looks a lot better.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Okay, good. Yeah. I think James Wan did this pilot. Maybe, yeah. If that's true, that's a good idea. So at least the first one will probably be good. Yeah, because that original version looked... You know what?
Starting point is 00:22:34 It started at the weird... He just had greasy, long, weird hair and hated it. And then it was just like, he's a special forces operative and we just throw him in with nothing. Give him a gun. Give him anything. He'd probably take a gun. He'd probably take a gun.
Starting point is 00:22:50 But like, this looks a lot better. I don't know. I think he's in a secret society now. They do good works or something. That's all right. Great. You know what else might be good works? What's that?
Starting point is 00:23:00 Captain Marvel, the movie, which is coming out in 2018 or something. We know that Brie Larson is Captain Marvel we talked about that great casting love it they've got apparently they've nailed it down narrowed it down to three directors all female Nikki Carrow
Starting point is 00:23:18 she did Whale Rider and McFarland USA neither of which I've seen McFarland USA, neither of which I've seen. Oh, McFarland is a Kevin Costner film where he teaches kids to read or something. Whatever. So pretty great. I do like Kevin Costner. No, it's about running.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Oh, that's right. He teaches kids to run. That's what I was thinking of. Look, Costner, most kids can run. You're that's right. He teaches kids to run. That's what I was thinking of. Look, Costa, most kids can run. You're wasting your time. Leslie Linker Glatter. She's done episodes of The Walking Dead and Homeland. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Lorraine Scarfaria. The meddler seeking a friend at the end of the world. Most of that stuff I have not seen, so I have no idea. I mean, Walking Dead and Homeland are okay, depending on the episode. But other than that, I don't really have any sense of this at all. Well, Marvel knows what they're doing. Sure. So good luck.
Starting point is 00:24:13 For the most part. Have you seen any of those things? No. I've heard Seeking Your Friend's good. Yeah, Steve Carell, right? Yeah. Is that Keira Knightley as well? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Mason, I know I'm going against the thing we did in the first episode, but I looked that up to see who it is, if well? Maybe. Mason, I know I'm going against the thing we did in the first episode, but I looked that up to see who it is, if it is her. Oh, yes. And it is. Oh, nailed it. I hope that comes up in a pub trivia quiz. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:24:38 That wouldn't even come up in a pub trivia quiz that was solely about the movie Seeking a Friend for the End of the World. Even if it was just an hour of that, that question would still not come up. Absolutely. Nobody cares. Last bit of news for the week, and it's a big one. All right. Well, it's two bits of news, really.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Gambit has lost another director in Doug Liman. We're never going to get a Gambit film. Do you care? No. So he stepped away from the project. It's lost like two or three at this point. Yeah. It's done, right? Now, Channing Tatum, is he in or three at this point. Yeah. It's done, right?
Starting point is 00:25:05 Now, Channing Tatum, is he in or out at this point? I think he'd have to be still in, but if I was him, I would jump to either Marvel or DC. Right, yeah. Is that what you'd do? Yeah. Yeah. Fox, just make Deadpool movies. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Just get back to Deadpool movies. It's fine. That'll do it, yeah. Yeah. But the reason, well, part of the reason he's left, I'd say this movie was already done before he left, but he's going to direct dark universe which is a justice league dark movie adaptation sure okay that sounds pretty good right hmm uh in theory in theory sure he did uh edge of tomorrow yeah okay bunch of other stuff yeah that's quite good uh so no i think he's i
Starting point is 00:25:40 think it's a great choice a lot of people uh kind of like oh oh, well, isn't bloody Del Toro going to do it? And for years he was kind of teasing that he was going to do it. Yeah, so Justice League Dark is the Justice League, but it's all magic users. Yeah, it's all monsters and weirdos and whatever. It's their suicide squad, in a way. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I love the idea of a Justice League Dark movie. They've got an animated feature coming out soon. Yeah, it's true. Which I'm excited for. That should be good. Yeah, what do you think? Excited? Yeah, although I have to wonder who's going to be on the team.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Right. And are we going to care about the team? Well, I think it's, what's the standard team? Constantine? Yep. Swamp Thing? Swamp Thing. Well, the Rubin names for Constantine in the past were Colin Farrell, Ewan McGregor.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Yep. Which of them? If you had to pick one. Ewan McGregor. Me too. Even though I like Colin Farrell. Yeah, sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:35 And Ron Perlman as Swamp Thing. Okay, sure. That's perfect, right? Yeah. I think he probably just, these days, he probably just sleeps in like one of those, like one of those shells. Like head molds?
Starting point is 00:26:49 Yeah, like a head mold. He probably just sleeps in one because he's like, okay, I'm not Hellboy today. All right. And he just goes to sleep
Starting point is 00:26:54 in a head mold. They wake up, they've molded him in a swamp thing and he's like, all right, here we go. Oh,
Starting point is 00:26:59 pretty good. So no, I'm all for, I think Deadman, maybe. Yeah, Deadman will be in it. Dr. Fate will probably be in it dr fate will
Starting point is 00:27:05 probably be right yeah yeah but that's the thing like it's it's again it's a case of they're forming a team but we don't know any of the members right exactly i mean comic book fans do but yeah how how is the general audience gonna get on board with these people they don't know at all yeah some of which are always wearing a helmet, some of which are a big, disgusting, gross swamp man. Zatanna? Yeah, okay, she'll be in it. Sure. Great, I'm all for it, Mason.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Me too. I'm bloody... Me too. Doctor Occult, maybe. Okay. He might be in it. They're going to knock one out of the park. Not a real doctor.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Doctor Fate, not even a real doctor. Actually, the current one's a psychiatrist, so... I guess that counts. What do you think about people being doctors without having any medical expertise? Give me an example. Like an archaeologist? Like an archaeologist, you can be like a...
Starting point is 00:27:54 I guess technically the first one was an archaeologist, but I don't know if it was a doctor. Look, it doesn't matter. What about like I have a friend who has a doctorate in business? Oh, yes. What do you think about that? Is he the one who listens to the show? No.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Then I think it's garbage. That's fine, I guess. No, I just think, why do they have to be doctors? That's what I'm saying. I'm not against it, but why? I think there's confusion with that as well. Maybe the terminology should change. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:24 And if you're like a doctor of business you're called doctor you know what have you smith but if you're a medical doctor you should be called real doctor yeah that's right you know what i mean because it's on your passport and stuff or the like the business people could be called fake doctors fake dr smith doctors oh very good there we go mason okay just to be clear, the first Dr. Fate, he's an archaeologist, and in some cases he's a physician. Like he decided to be a physician and an archaeologist. He's got two skills. I feel maybe what he actually is is a fraud.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Like he's just like, he's just bloody catch me if you canning all about the place. Like, I'm an archaeologist. He's the pretender of the DC universe. That's true, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Fantastic. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies
Starting point is 00:29:15 on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost fx is the veil starring elizabeth moss is now streaming on disney plus well mason you know what it's time for then it's time for our bloody superhero showdown mate we do these every i don't want to say 25 episodes like that yeah i'll just or just whenever we're like have we done one of them in a while what are we doing the last one are we gonna one of them in a while? Should we get around to it? What did we do in the last one?
Starting point is 00:29:47 Are we going to just do them again accidentally? Now, the rule that we set this time on the guideline was literary or cinematic characters. Yeah. So excluding comic book characters. But that being said, it's just whatever. Sure. Yeah. So basically, our listeners, the Weekly Whacka-Doos, have messaged in, tweeted at us. Hashtag a weekly plan-a-pod. Weekly plan-a-doodles have have messaged in tweeted at us
Starting point is 00:30:05 hashtag a weekly planet pod and they've given us each person's given us two characters they want us to do battle and we will determine
Starting point is 00:30:14 who is the winner of course Mason there are rules associated with this battle yep care to remind the good folks listening okay so the rules are
Starting point is 00:30:22 yeah each character appears at the opposite end of a standard size American football field. Yes. Now, we've never been on an American football field. No. Or even seen one in person. Correct. But we assume they're pretty good and good for fighting on.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Well, they're rectangle, aren't they? Yeah, they're pretty good, right? Okay, so they appear. Yes. It's just them. They appear with the standard equipment they would have normally on them. No vehicles. No vehicles unless that's part of the character.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Unless they can summon it. Yeah, that'll do it. Let's see. They see the other one. They immediately perceive the other one as a threat. Yes. And they act as they normally would towards the threat. Correct.
Starting point is 00:31:00 So if it's a character who would kill people, they go in for the kill. Yes. If it's a character who doesn't, they will go in for the kill. If it's a character who doesn't, they will go in for the not kill. And the other example is characters who are reluctant to kill but will. So like Wolverine might not initially kill,
Starting point is 00:31:15 but then as it escalates, would then... If he isn't immediately successful, he will kill that person. That's right. He might be like, are you friends with Professor X in any way? Will this come back to me in a bad way in any way? No? All right, you're dead.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Yeah, am I going to have a sit-down meeting because I'm not in the mood, frankly. All right, so let's bloody get into it. There's also a list on the Reddit, which we've gone through, and some tweets, which people have hashtagged Weekly Planet Pod. Do you want me to kick it off?
Starting point is 00:31:42 Please do. Okay, this first one. Also, I should say our decisions are final, but also we're not really that concerned. And yeah, don't. If you think the opposite is true, you're not. It probably is. We won't fire you about it.
Starting point is 00:32:00 This is from Matthew or Sisk underscore Sisk underscore Sisk. He's having that stroke, guys. Underscore Sisk is hard to say, all right? Maybe it's deliberate. It's like summoning a demon. Yeah. It's not right. Did you say underscore Sisk too many times in a mirror?
Starting point is 00:32:16 Up here. On a football field. Ooh. Star-Lord versus Han Solo. Okay, sure. Now, I'm presuming in his day Han Solo, not Grumpy Odd Gramps, recent Force Awakens Han Oh, that's right. We also say in their prime.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Yeah. Unless we've determined otherwise. Yes. It's a character in their prime. That's right. Okay. So it's Star-Lord Guardians of the Galaxy, obviously. Probably maybe the conclusion of the first movie.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Absolutely. So he's seen some stuff. Yep. But he's had some time to recuperate. Definitely. Definitely. I would say this is Han Solo before he falls in love. Okay, sure.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Because then he's in his prime. He's got nothing to lose, mate. Oh, sure. You're saying that love is ultimately his downfall. Yes. And the downfall of everyone. Yes. Wow.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Okay, spoiler alert. That literally is his downfall. His son murders him. Oh, I guess. Sure. It's his downfall. But I mean, somebody inevitably would have murdered him anyway i know all right yeah but he wouldn't have put himself in that situation with somebody else
Starting point is 00:33:10 is what i'm saying he wouldn't have walked out on that platform with boba fett but no but also i feel it's that han solo see i feel he's left a lot of illegitimate children behind and like maybe if if spoiler alert his son didn't kill him in Force Awakens, a week later somebody else would have killed him. You know what I mean? I don't think so. Some other kid. He's wily, mate.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Or like a different son. Like a different kid, yeah. Okay, fair enough. All right, opposite ends of the football field, they both appear. Star-Lord has a bunch of gear. That's true. And Star-Lord has a blaster and a little communicator.
Starting point is 00:33:45 And that's pretty much it. And that's useless because Chewie can't get to him here. He could summon the Falcon, I guess. No. When's he summoned the Falcon? He'd be like,
Starting point is 00:33:53 Chewie, bring the Falcon to where I am. No. Chewie doesn't know where he is. I wouldn't factor it. I'm not saying. Okay, cool. It would be a factor.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Where is this football field? I feel it's... I've always pictured it as... Tallahassee. No, I don't know. I've always pictured it as... Tallahassee. No, I don't know. I've always pictured it as not on Earth. It's just sort of floating through space. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:34:08 Yeah. Okay, fair enough. So they can knock the other person into space. Or is it just force-fielded? I think it's force-fielded. Okay. I just thought it was just like a standard field in like Oklahoma or something.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Oh, that's a lot... Look, but even... That's a long time in the future and a galaxy far far away right so even if you could summon chewy it's not happening it's not happening fair enough okay well who's better hand to hand uh star lord yes han solo might do the overhead punch yep on your back yes the two-fisted grip punch yeah but you see star lord like he can tangle with remember he tangles with rocket raccoon and
Starting point is 00:34:46 groot and gamora that's true yeah and he's he doesn't win but he does oh he does pretty well yeah they're all vicious killers yeah but who and but star-lord is less likely to kill no that being said star-lord shot that dude like straight up remember in the in when he goes to get the orb that's true yeah and thinking he didn't know that he wasn't going to kill him. That's true, but I think he would have gone in inherently knowing that that guy, like he'd done his research.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Sure. So he knew that there'd be bad guys on their way. He might have known that guy. Yeah, okay, fair enough. Okay. Yeah. I think Han Solo is definitely more inclined to kill. Yeah, we've seen him do it.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Yeah, absolutely. Constantly. Yeah. Do you think they're both trying to like swagger their way out of it initially with quick talk, but it wouldn't work because they'd both do it? Right, yeah, exactly. Would it just be me using two Pokemon that don't mesh? Right.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Just add each other? Yeah, it might just end in them going, you're doing the thing that I do. But they can't become pals They can't become pals. Here's the question. Or the threat. They're both threats. Fair enough. Who's the quicker draw?
Starting point is 00:35:51 Ooh. Is it Solo? I would have said Star-Lord. Yeah, well, I guess you're right. Solo's is in a holster, like, down by his knee. That's true. And he could have been preparing that for, like, 10 minutes. That's right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:04 He does. You see him in Star Wars could have been preparing that for like 10 minutes. That's right, yeah. He does. You see him in Star Wars. He takes it out and aims it slowly. Yeah. Yeah, Star-Lord's like really quick. That's true, yeah. Up the mark. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Also, he's got that weapon that like magnetizes people to it. Yeah. Or whatever it is. That Bolo thingamajig. Yeah, exactly. I think it's Star-Lord. I think he's got more shit. That's true, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:24 And he could probably take Like Could he take a blaster? Like a blaster shot? You know what? We don't know Because His origin is
Starting point is 00:36:32 Is murky His father is Ego the living planet He can Hold a His father is the indestructible Kurt Russell That's right
Starting point is 00:36:38 He can hold a gem Yeah And he And it didn't kill him immediately It would have killed him Yeah But most people It would have killed him yeah but most people it would have so i would say that yeah he's definitely more durable as well than han solo yeah but
Starting point is 00:36:50 because star wars has set millions of years in the past potentially all of the people in star wars could be like a hundred feet tall there's no way there's no scale we That's so true, yeah. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Well, look, if Han Solo's 100 feet tall, I think he's got this. Right. But in other respects, yeah. I just think Star-Lord's more durable. I think that's what it would come down to. And also, Han Solo ultimately is a bad shot.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Over a football field length, that's... How close do you think they'd get before they started shooting? Well, if they perceived as threat? Yes. Remember when Han Solo saw Vader? He was like straight on it. That's true, yeah. So I think that's how that would go.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. I don't reckon he'd hit him. After a football field length. There's no way he'd hit him. That loosey-goosey grip.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Yeah, you're right. One to the left, one to the right. Yeah. Yeah. Dead. Okay, fair enough. Good start? Yeahosey grip. Yeah, you're right. One to the left, one to the right. Yeah. Dead. Okay, fair enough. Good start? Yeah, great start.
Starting point is 00:37:48 You got one? No. I can give you another one while you're looking it up. Okay, go ahead. I'll try and find one, yeah. This is from Elvis. Who would win a fight between Harry... Wow, Weekly Planet exclusive.
Starting point is 00:37:58 He's still alive. Who would win a fight between Harry Potter and Doctor Strange? Ooh. I'm fairly confident that Harry Potter would be killed. Or beaten. Because Harry Potter needs his friends. Oh, sure. Doctor Strange.
Starting point is 00:38:14 I mean, I'm presuming it's the movie version. We don't really know what he can do yet. Yeah, that's right. But he can summon things out of nothing and step through dimensions and shoot stuff out of his hands. Harry Potter is always like, Ron, help me. Are you sure Doctor Strange wouldn't underestimate the kid? Okay, that's possible, I guess.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Yeah. Okay, fair enough. Yeah. How do you think it would go down? Doctor Strange doesn't need to go for anything either. That's true, yeah. He's all hands and he's ready. Force fields.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Does Harry Potter have like a silency kind of spell? They can. Is there like a silencio? Yes. Yeah. And also Harry Potter in this universe, you can cast a spell without saying it out loud. Once you get good at it, you can think it and then do it. So Harry Potter doesn't necessarily need to speak to...
Starting point is 00:39:08 Okay, right. In his prime anyway. Yeah. Because I assume in Doctor Strange the movie, I don't think we can go movie version because we don't know what he can do yet. Okay, fair enough. I feel Doctor Strange, a lot of his...
Starting point is 00:39:21 Comic book-wise, a lot of his spells, he has to say something. Right. Something ridiculous. And it's usually quite long. It's longer than it really should be. It's an incantation. It's an incantation.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Yeah, okay. And I think he'll get one of those out. Right. Harry Potter's like, oh, he needs to say stuff. I don't need to say nothing. Okay, fair enough. And he'll hit him with a bit of the silence. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Like, that doesn't rule out everything that Strange has. Sure. But that's going to cut out everything that that strange has sure but that's going to cut out a lot of stuff okay how's he going to do his bolts of bedevilment without saying the words bolts of bedevil but can he do it without saying it i don't think he can yeah i think all the big stuff he has to say right he's doing it i'm sure he could just be like pull a force field around him or whatever probably yeah i think this is a lot i think this is a longer fight than you've anticipated. I don't know about that.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Because, okay, a slight spoiler alert for the new Harry Potter. I'm not going to spoil anything. Is this Cursed Child? Yeah. Or is this adult Harry Potter? Well, no, I'm just saying what he can do. Okay, right. So he goes up against him.
Starting point is 00:40:16 See, I'm going to say that Cursed Child Harry Potter is not Harry Potter in his prime. It's in his middle-aged slump. I agree. I agree. But because he goes up against he's fallen in love he's done he's old he's done he's like 36 he's got a kid he's really bloody he's just he's just not he's not there is he's preoccupied with things but he goes up against a fairly formidable opponent yep i would uh i would say maybe probably less than voemort, but he's just, it's in a church or whatever, and he's just on the run.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Like he's not adept at dueling. Like that's his job. Yes. Because he works for the ministry and he tracks down retired Death Eaters and Black Magic or whatever. But he's still not a great, Harry Potter's strength isn't the fact that he's a good wizard necessarily. It's his friends and the fact that he's invincible for no reason. Oh, sure. And that doesn't apply.
Starting point is 00:41:08 No, that's true. In this situation. He doesn't have any wards against Doctor Strange just punching him repeatedly in the face. That's right. Which he would. I feel he would. Yeah, Strange is good hand to hand, isn't he? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Even though they're kind of broken, he can still fight. He's got the karate. Yeah. He could judo chop a man. All right. So you're going to give it to Strange? Still enough I am. I reckon it's going to be a longer karate. Yeah. He could judo chop a man. All right, so are you going to give it to Strange? Still enough I am. I reckon it's going to be a longer fight.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Okay. I mean, not much longer. Sure. What's going to happen is he's going to underestimate the kid. Right. There's going to be a slightly extended middle act where there's some confusion. And then I guess he smothers him with a cloak of levitation. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:41:50 What would Harry Potter have like, what else would he have on him? Harry Potter could kill if he wanted to as well. He's got that spell to kill. What is it? What is it? How does it work? Avada Kedavra. And then you're going to have all the hate in your heart
Starting point is 00:42:01 and you shoot at somebody. You have to be able to do it. Yeah. You have to have that hate. Oh, he doesn't have it on him, does he? Well, who's this guy? He's not going to... I mean, he's a threat.
Starting point is 00:42:09 That's all he knows. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but he doesn't know why. Well, then that... What else? Lightning bolts? Fireballs? What's he got?
Starting point is 00:42:16 Yeah, he didn't even do it to bloody... Yeah, he can do all that. Oh, okay. He didn't even do it to Voldemort, though. Yeah. He's worstest of enemies. Oh, then he's dead. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Does Strange kill? Yeah. He's worst of enemies. Oh, then he's dead. Yeah. Does Strange kill? Yeah. People? Ooh. Probably not. Yeah. Yeah. But magical beings he does.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Yeah. And this guy's magic. Like you'll banish them to another dimension or whatever. Probably do that, yeah. Yeah. He'd banish Harry Potter
Starting point is 00:42:41 to some hell dimension. Well, to the cupboard from whence he came. He'd permanently just put him in there. I like it if he was just cupboards within cupboards. Like he's just trying to get out of the cupboard. It's just infinite cupboards. Good stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:57 I'm going to look for one right now. All right. I'm going to look. Oh, on our Q&A, we mentioned we've had a reminder from Seamus Duffy Seamus D on Twitter we asked for a reminder for this
Starting point is 00:43:10 Elektra versus Raphael a sigh off a sigh off I do remember this this is going to be a short one who's better who's stronger Raphael
Starting point is 00:43:19 yeah who's better with size Elektra you reckon yes he's just rage yeah he's just rage you're right you're probably right I mean ultimately with size. Elektra. You reckon? Yes. He's just rage. Yeah, he's just rage.
Starting point is 00:43:27 You're right. You're probably right. I mean, ultimately, he just wants to be flailing his fists about. Yeah. He's just been given these size. You know what I mean? If he lost them,
Starting point is 00:43:36 he'd just keep swinging. So do you think it would come down to finesse more than brute strength? I think so, yeah. Because she's a ninja as well. I mean, even if we take like Nigh Indestructible movie version, like the last couple of movie Raphaels, like he's like a tank, but he's got some weak points,
Starting point is 00:43:53 specifically his neck. Absolutely. And it would not take her long to just... Also, he's not a killer. That's true, yeah. Not in the way that she is. And Ninja Turtles, they wouldn't fight girls, you know? No, they have, though.
Starting point is 00:44:08 No, they have, but, you know. Like Shredder's daughter and a few others and whatever, yeah. So, Electra? Yeah. Agreed. Sigh to the neck. I don't think you could throw it. I think you'd have to get in close.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Oh, and she would. Yeah. You want me to go on? Please, go ahead. This is from Ken Cross. Christopher Lambert's Raiden from Mortal Kombat. Oh, yes, good start. Versus Raul Julia's M. Bison from Street Fighter.
Starting point is 00:44:34 So at their prime. Well, I don't know if it was, it wasn't Raul Julia's prime because he died immediately after this movie. But the character's prime. Well, see, that's the thing because he's saying this because they're both light lightning cat using using lightning but the issue here is that ral julia and street fighter only uses lightning after he's been killed and brought back by his suit his suit performs cpr on him yeah and then he comes back so and is the
Starting point is 00:45:04 does the suit give him lightning? Yes. And he's like, you didn't expect to face a god. Yeah, uh-huh. He's yelling that. Superconducting electromagnetism, he says in his Raoul Julia voice. Probably the last thing he said on cellular. Superconducting electromagnetism.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Oh, I kind of love that movie. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's way better than Legend of Chun-Li. Yeah, it is. Which is just love that movie. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's way better than Legend of Chun-Li. Yeah, it is. Which is just boring. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Raiden's a god, isn't he?
Starting point is 00:45:30 Yeah. But there's places Raiden can't go, but Earth is not one of them. Like, he's ineffective in the Netherrealm in that movie or something, isn't he? Is there a football field in the Netherrealm? I don't think so. No, I don't think it is. It's just... I think it's just standard Earth football field.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Yeah. Didn't we say halftime at the Super Bowl? Probably, yeah. I, I don't think it is. I think it's just standard earth football field. Yeah. Didn't we say halftime at the Super Bowl? Probably, yeah. I think we said that at some point. So halftime at the Super Bowl, Beyonce, she's done her thing. She's moved off. Yeah. And then they're like, attention, ladies and gentlemen,
Starting point is 00:45:58 for your enjoyment, a fight. Probably between two people and maybe you vaguely know who one of them is maybe you don't who's to say in this situation do you think ralph julia would get the drop on him sorry m bison by dying instantly to then be to to rise oh so do you think uh do you think lambert would would kill him and then think it's done oh And then he's like, I'm back. I don't think he'd win. No. But I think there'd be like a what? Also, in the Mortal Kombat universe, you can be a robot and fight a wizard.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Yes. Do you know what I mean? No, I guess so. It's not really clear about- Yeah, that's true. Who can do what or how anything works. Well, see, that's the thing. Because Raiden is-
Starting point is 00:46:42 The reason you can kill Raiden in Mortal Kombat is because he's in human form. Right, okay. Like, I think if you killed him, like, he might... Like, if you sliced him in half with a sharp hat. Yeah, he'd return to life presumably at some point. Right. But he is... Like, he is only as powerful as a regular human.
Starting point is 00:46:59 So maybe you're right. Okay, in god form, this would be not good for Raul Julia. There'd be a very big and bloody explosion. Yeah. But I still think Raiden. Look, I think, yeah. Look, I think if... See how slow he was, Raul Julia, when he's flying?
Starting point is 00:47:15 Boy, did I. He's doing these ones. He's doing the Superman, yeah. Yeah. That's pretty great. But I think there's something in that Raiden would kill him. It depends how he kills him, because if he fatalities him he explodes his head which is the one he does from the first model combat you could give him as much cpr as you want he's not growing his head back is
Starting point is 00:47:37 it yeah that's true so it depends how he kills him yeah but if we go by Mortal Kombat rules, you can't immediately fatality somebody. Yeah, but he doesn't know that. In this scenario, it's not a Mortal Kombat match. I mean, so does he just go for the kill? No, but I'm saying according to his own rules, he can't. Okay, I guess. So he thinks it's a tournament. No, I'm saying that in this universe, nobody thinks they can go for a fatality.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Straight up. The last person's like, I'm all woozy and I'm about to... It's the movie universe, though. I've got two seconds before a full... Okay, right. Okay, I'm going to say, yes, it is rated immediate fatality. But if he goes karate first, Raul Julia hits the dirt, and then somehow he's still connected to his island base
Starting point is 00:48:31 and his base computer's resurrected. That's a big if. It's a big if, isn't it? There's no Wi-Fi in 96. Exactly, yeah. So, no, you're probably right. Maybe if he's given that moment of surprise and Raiden turns around like, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:49 he's overconfident and he turns away. And the audience are just like, what is this? Behind you. Behind you. It's Raul Julia. He's from the Addams Family. The first and second one. And the second one.
Starting point is 00:49:06 He's probably in some very good independent movies as well, but none of us have seen them. We've just seen The Addams Family and Street Fighter. Anyway, he's me. Oh, he's hit you. Then maybe he's going to check. Because he's bison, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:23 He's good at fighting. Yeah. I don't think this version is No, he's not But I'm going to give him some of his Street Fighter skills Okay, fair enough Well, you know what? He can fight in the video game movie adaptation That's true Of the movie
Starting point is 00:49:34 Which is canon Which is canon, I guess Yep You got one? Let's see Okay Okay, this is from Alex Alex Bradley on,
Starting point is 00:49:45 I assume that's Alex Bradley on Twitter. Hang on. A couple of people suggested this. My phone's just locked up. You know what? It's all three of Simon Pegg's characters from the Cornetto trilogy. Against each other. Against each other.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Well, one has guns. Correct. But a standard British cop does not have guns. Correct. And he doesn't have guns for a lot of it, but it's in his prime. No, it doesn't count. Does that count? No, it doesn't count.
Starting point is 00:50:09 No. Because we're not pulling them out of the moment in the film where they have the guns. Does that mean that Shaun of the Dead doesn't get a cricket bat? Correct. And that means that... But they might get assorted random gridiron items. Sure. That are spread about.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Okay. So the World's End doesn't get a pint. He can just glass. No. Well, he's the oldest. He might get like a plastic, like a red solo cup of beer that he could sort of... That's true. They don't sell anything you can glass of on the football.
Starting point is 00:50:40 No, that's right. Yeah. Well, I think World's End is the oldest and the drunkest. Correct. I think he's the most worst for wear. But he's the best at fighting, I feel. That's a really good point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:52 There's some great fight scenes in that. Yeah. Hot Fuzz is very fit. Correct. Like Supercop. Yep. Shaun of the Dead's like a clerk. Correct, yes.
Starting point is 00:51:03 You know. Yeah. What is he? He works in like a vacuum store or something? Yeah. And also he is Simon Pegg before he's gone fully Hollywood. So he hasn't worked out at all. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:51:14 So under that short-sleeved shirt, who's to say? He hasn't got his Star Trek bod. That's right, yeah. Okay, so we're ruling out Shaun of the Dead? Yeah, he's... Also, who's more willing to kill in this scenario? Shaun of the Dead is willing to kill... Zombies.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Zombies. Yes. But he's reluctant to kill people. Nicholas Angel from Hot Fuzz. Not willing to kill anyone. Right. Because he's always... He's a good cop.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Yeah. It's always a trick shot. Right, right. Okay, fair enough. And there's no guns. There's also no guns, yes. But World's End, kind of a loose unit yeah
Starting point is 00:51:45 like he's just he smashes that dude's head open correct not knowing that he's not a person correct right yeah
Starting point is 00:51:52 I think it's World's End I think it's World's End because he's the loosest unit right well yeah look that being said the Hot Fuzz guy is probably very good
Starting point is 00:52:01 at hand to hand yeah yeah but not he's not like sci-fi kung fu there are some crazy moves in that movie there's crazy moves in that right that's probably very good at hand-to-hand. Yeah, yeah. But not... He's not like sci-fi kung fu. There are some crazy moves in that movie. There's crazy moves in that, right? That's such a good...
Starting point is 00:52:09 They're all good movies, man. I guess they got the Scott Pilgrim virus where everybody's good at kung fu fighting for some reason. You know what I mean? Is that a virus? No. I haven't read the comics. I'm saying cinematically.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Gotcha. Okay, cool, cool. So, World's End? I think so, yeah. All right. Now, I think this might become a staple of the series, or maybe it's just this one time, where we include a duck character.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Yes, sure. This is from Stanley. Sorry, Stephen Stankey. How about Duckwing Duck versus Howard the Duck? A true duck off. Last time we had Scrooge McDuck versus Bruce Wayne. That's right. So Darkwing Duck, who's like the Disney equivalent of Batman.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Correct. Versus Howard the Duck, who's the Marvel equivalent of something that George Lucas ruined. Correct, yes. Well, which version of, what's the prime version of Howard the Duck? Comic book Howard the Duck. Not Guardians? We don't know. We don't know anything about him. Isn't he real wily? Comic book version of Howard? He's book how the duck not guardians we don't know we don't know
Starting point is 00:53:05 anything about it yeah yeah isn't he real wily comic book version he's real wily yeah yeah is he a murderer yeah so well that's a good question actually uh what are you killing can duck kill duck is the question i guess like he'd kill somebody you've threatened and he's probably got a gun on him, to be fair. Yeah, yeah. Well, he's a detective, right? Yeah. Private detective?
Starting point is 00:53:28 Sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know that much about him, if I'm honest. Let's do some research. I know that terrible movie. Look, he knows Quack Fu, which is the duck version of Kung Fu.
Starting point is 00:53:38 But Darkwing Duck is also very adept at martial arts. Is he? He's not Batman, but he's pretty good for that universe. I feel he's not comically inept. No, he's inept, but he's not like... But he's the most competent kind of superhero you could get in that universe. I guess that's true. What about Gizmoduck?
Starting point is 00:53:58 Gizmoduck's an idiot. Yeah, that's true. Gizmoduck is a idiot. I love Gizmoduck. That was a test. You passed the test. Gizmoduck's just stumbling around into shit. I love the Gizmoduck design, was a test. You passed the test. Gizmoduck's just stumbling around into shit. I love the Gizmoduck design, though.
Starting point is 00:54:07 I think it's really cool. Not knowing anything about Howard the Duck. He's always getting out of a scrape. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Is he strong? No, no stronger than a regular human duck. Man. Funny animal man.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Well, that doesn't tell me anything. No, that's true, right? Hang on, here we go. Well, it says here, Howard the Duck has shown some degree of mystic talent in the past to the point that Stephen Strange taught some spells to Howard and even offered to train him, but Howard declined. Well, that's it, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:54:37 So he might have the bolts of bedevilment. Yeah. If he's got even one magic thing, that's over. Well, what's Darkwing Duck got? He's got like a grappling gun, smoke pellets. This is what we need. Yes. That's over. Well, what's Darkwing Duck got? He's got like a grappling gun. Grappling gun, yep. Smoke pellets. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:54:47 This is what we need. It's a duck blur. That's what we need to call in. Michael, Sarah, if you're listening to this. Help. Help. I'm going to give it to Howl of the Duck. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:58 All right. Yeah. All right, fine. But not the movie version. No. Because he's just a weird man in a little duck suit. It's terrifying. You got one? No. I he's just a weird man in a little duck suit. It's terrifying. You got one?
Starting point is 00:55:07 No. I can do another one. Okay, great. Do another one. This is from Ash Pogson, Indominus Rex from Jurassic World. You saw this one? Yep. Versus King Kong?
Starting point is 00:55:17 No, I got the Queen from Aliens. Oh, okay. King Kong would smash that. Well, it depends on the version. Yeah, we should do both. Or neither. Moving on. would smash that well it depends on the version because he's giant yeah we should do both or neither moving on but we've seen also
Starting point is 00:55:27 King Kong fight two Tyrannosaurus Rexes at once that's true whilst saving a girl but this is an Indominus Rex yeah but he's got a cloaking device of sorts
Starting point is 00:55:36 I guess so but it's only one of him that's true and also he's on a football field what's he gonna what's he gonna cloak against yeah
Starting point is 00:55:43 so which one do you want to do? Both or... Or is that done? No, let's do your one. All right. The queen from Aliens. Yes. Who's intelligent.
Starting point is 00:55:52 How's her strength though? Real strong. Also acid for blood. Right. So if he sinks his teeth in... Yeah. I guess it's a question of who dies first. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Okay. But then... Okay, what's the coin got there she's got the lashy tail she does have a lashy tail this lashy speary tail yeah yeah do you think that would kill him through his head yeah so that would be it no and even if he even if it got her yes and bit into her yeah he would still die from the acid yes from the acid of the acid yeah it would melt off his lower jaw and he died i feel it's a case of they both if pursuing he survives the spear yeah she survives the spear that was a lady lady battle hello hello oh what if they kiss uh no presumably if if No.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Presumably, if... Would the Alien Queen know to go for the brain? Yeah, I reckon. Well, she goes for Ripley's head. That's true. Okay, yeah. And that's a big target as well. All right, assuming the Indominus Rex gets close enough, the Alien Queen goes for the spearing, misses.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Maybe the Indominus Rex grabs it because she's got the real hands. Oh, yeah, sure. she's got the real hands. Oh, yeah, sure. She's got the real arms. I feel it's a case of the Indominus Rex starts to tear into it and bite into it, the Indian Queen. Like a crab. Yeah, and then it's a case of
Starting point is 00:57:14 they just turn into this weird acidic mess. And it's a case of which one hits the ground first. Right. Okay, fair enough. Maybe we should do King Kong versus Indominus Rex. Okay, sure. Which version? The Peter Jackson version, I assume.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Yes. So not the biggest one. No. But big enough. I'm really looking forward to see what the new one can do. Yeah. Maybe a cloaking device. Like he'd win.
Starting point is 00:57:35 He's enormous. Maybe T-Rex arms. Maybe the new King Kong has T-Rex arms. Like regular arms and then little T-Rex arms. Well, Jurassic World was pretty good at inventing that new dinosaur, but we think we've really cracked this. That's right, yeah. What the people want is teeny little arms.
Starting point is 00:57:50 He's beating his chest with his teeny little arms. Tap-a-ta-tap-a-ta-tap-a-ta-tap-a-ta-tap-a-ta-tap. All I can think about is... I think that's a better fight. Okay, well, you're probably not wrong, but all I can think about is that scene in King Kong where he fights two Tyrannosauruses, and he's got Naomi Watts in one hand the whole time.
Starting point is 00:58:08 And he still wins. Yeah. He gets banged up. But then again, they're not intelligent the way that Indominus Rex is. Yeah. Yeah. And also, I feel that fight was kind of... A bit too choreographed?
Starting point is 00:58:19 Yes. And also, Indominus Rex can climb him. Right. Sure. Gets the claws in. Yeah. Climbs up to its head. Bites the neck? Bites the can climb him. Right, sure. Gets the claws in, climbs up to its head. Bites the neck. Bites the neck, maybe. But acid blood.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Oh, from King Kong, absolutely, yeah. Okay, yeah, you're probably right. King Kong's pretty punchy, though. Also, he can break a jaw with his bare hands. That's true. Claws. Sorry? Still claws.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Still claws? Lots of claws. Yeah, sure. Reallaws. Sorry? Still claws. Still claws? Lots of claws. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Real arms. Yes. Yeah. So you're thinking Dominus Rex?
Starting point is 00:58:50 Ooh, that's a good question, actually. You know what? Maybe not. Or how about this? They're battling. They're battling. Do you think the goalposts on a football field could withstand King Kong standing on them? No.
Starting point is 00:59:04 For a second? I'm Even for a second? I don't know for a second. Yeah. Like he's going to get up on him and then like take a leap. Belly plant. Like what if he grabs, okay what if Indominus Rex gets in there. Yeah. Really tearing into him. He does a little quick hop onto the goal
Starting point is 00:59:20 post. Flattens her. I don't know if that would work but I still think he could get, he could jump high enough to flatten. Okay. I still think he's got that. Yeah, okay. He's got that maneuverability. Do you think when it gets down to the ground, King Kong's got it?
Starting point is 00:59:33 Yes. In a brawl? Yes. Because he's a brawly kind of... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, on their feet, different situation. Yeah, uh-huh. But once Indominus Rex has lost that counterbalance of the tail and all that.
Starting point is 00:59:44 That being said, though, Indominus Rex clawed feet as well, right? Yeah. I don't know. Maybe not. But King Kong also can go two feet, can go four feet. Like he's kind of. Yeah. See, my initial thinking was if he got Indominus Rex on the ground,
Starting point is 00:59:57 grab both the arms, headbutts, just a series of King Kong headbutts. But then if she's still got the clawed feet yeah like she's tearing the guts out right right okay so it's just a pile of guts yeah she bursts out of the pile of guts i think it might be a dominus rex all right i'll give you that done yeah going ready to go let's see um oh uh robert downey jr sherlock holmes Sherlock Holmes versus Benedict Cumberbatch Sherlock Holmes. Downey Jr. can like see the future of a fight. Right. Yeah, there we go.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Or some nonsense. Yeah. So you don't really see Benedict Cumberbatch fight. He sword fights somebody at some point. There's no swords though, is there? No, there aren't any swords. I'm not saying he can't fight. He probably can.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Right. I'll tell you almost certainly can. But in the second Sherlock Holmes, I don't know if you've seen it. though is there no there aren't no i'm not saying he can't fight yeah he probably can right i'll tell you almost certainly can but in the second Sherlock Holmes i don't know if you've seen it i have yeah okay well he has a mind fight with Moriarty that's right and then decides that he can't win so he throws him off the cliff that's right yeah i don't even know what that means what does that mean for a fight i don't know you know what it meant it meant because that's how they died in the books okay just like yeah do you reckon there's going to be deductive reasonings there's going to be like well i said you've got this on your shoe which means you're
Starting point is 01:01:11 blah blah would they determine through detective work that neither of them is a threat would that be no because they are they are a threat okay sure yeah do you think they'd figure out that you're a version of me? Ooh. Good question. Do you think there'd be any conversation? Because I don't think, they're not the kind of guys that would just run at each other and start fighting. I think there would be kind of a standoff. Sure. Some witty retorts.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Oh, yes. Some kind of sizing up. Some looking at if they've got any powder on their waistcoat. Yes, definitely. Whatever, Nero, whatever. Yeah. So I don't think it would just be, it would devolve into a fight immediately. Yeah. Both killers also.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Also, it's established that Benedict Cumberbatch is a sociopath. Correct. Like he says it. Yeah. He kills that guy, Magnus or whatever. Remember it? The last season? He just flat out shoots that guy point blank. Oh, that's right. it. Yeah. He kills that guy, Magnus or whatever. Remember it? The last season? He just flat out shoots that guy point blank.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't... Downey Jr. is a killer, but not like that. Yeah. Does Downey's character have a gun? Yeah, he's always waving a gun about.
Starting point is 01:02:17 I wouldn't say he has one on him all the time. He's probably got a cane with a knife in it or something. Cumberbatch doesn't carry a gun. That's true, yeah. That is for certain. Yeah, okay. You're saying RDJ. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:30 I don't like it. Yeah, no. Because it's a bullshit. Look, nobody likes it. Nobody likes his weird mind palaces. Everybody hates him. Wait, that's the other one. They've all got mind palaces.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Sure. Sick to death of mind palaces. What do you got? I got? Sure. Gian Franco, Dom Toretto from Fast and Furious. Is that Vin Diesel? Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:51 So I should have said. Versus Mad Max Fury Road. Yes. Which is the optimum Mad Max, really. Yeah. Also, you've got to bear in mind that Vin Diesel from those movies is pretty much invincible. Right, yeah. Remember when he came back to life for no reason?
Starting point is 01:03:07 That's right, yeah. The car park fell at him or whatever. He jumped the car over a helicopter. Because in the first one he gets banged up and his arm's broken. Yes. Remember with Paul Walker? Yeah, that's right. But nothing like that kind of happens again.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Yeah. Now they're not in their cars. I want to be clear about this yes just who's a better driver well probably dom mad max is always totaling his car he's a terrible driver so if we're saying in his prime yeah well i mean in his mad max does it say specifically fury road that says fury okay right because in his prime prime is thunderdome right because he's a superhero yeah right he is yeah that's the that's the more even matchup but for fury road Because he's a superhero. Yeah, right. He is, yeah. That's the more even matchup. But for Fury Road, he's a terrible driver. But that's the desert, though.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Yeah. So you've got to factor that in. Like Vin Diesel's never been chased by like a hundred mutants. That's true, yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, Vin Diesel probably has. He's been chased by, you know, 100 weird car fans.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Sure, absolutely. Yeah, so. But in a fight, who's better in a fight? Who's got the skills? Vin Diesel took the two sticks and fought Statham on the car park. Right, yeah. Remember that? Yeah, okay, sure.
Starting point is 01:04:19 And Tom Hardy is, Tom Hardy gets hurt easier. Yes. But he's pretty durable. Like he's got, I'd say he's got more grit. Okay. He can be tortured and drowned. He can be in a massive... Maybe he totals his car a couple of times in that movie and he's fine.
Starting point is 01:04:37 But how does any of this help in a fight? I'm saying he's durable. Sure. In the same way that Indiana Jones is durable. Okay, sure. He doesn't stop. Yes. But Indiana Jones, his skill is taking a beating
Starting point is 01:04:50 until environmental factors move in. Like the sun gets in somebody's eyes or they fall into a boat propeller or whatever. Right. So what is... Mad Max's skill is that he scrapes through until he's able to walk away at the end. That's true, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:03 After the situation sort of resolves itself. I don't know. Without a gun, in Fury Road, what's his best hand-to-hand kind of... He has that fight with Charlize Theron when he's chained to Nicholas Holtz. That's pretty good. That's a good fight. Yeah. I like that movie.
Starting point is 01:05:21 It's a good one. It's good, right? Yeah, it's pretty good. I still think Vin Diesel is superhuman. Yeah. And he wasn't, but he is now. Correct, yes. And if we're taking prime.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Yeah. Stick fighting Jason Statham. That's right. Yeah, I don't... Mad Max is fast. Yeah. He's fast and skilled. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:41 I don't know. Vin Diesel's got family on his side. Not with him, but in his heart. In his heart. And regardless of the distance. Mad Max's family is dead. That's so true. But they're still in his heart.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Yeah, they more kind of scare him. And also they're never coming back. That's right. But he's always like he goes to do a thing and then one of them jumps out at him. That's true. Like it doesn't help him. He might have flashbacks on the field. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:03 That's what I'm saying. I don't know. Because you're right. I want to say that. I don't know. Cause you're right. I want to say that Mad Max has some skills cause you're right. That, that, that scene where they're both going for the gun. Yeah. But if Mad Max, there's no gun on the field. No.
Starting point is 01:06:14 What's he doing? Like we don't know. And if he had a gun, it would misfire. Like almost certainly. Yeah. And we don't know, like, how is he in a, in a fist fight with the indestructible Vin Diesel? We don't, we don't know. I think it is Vin Diesel. Yeah. You're probably right. Yeah. Hey, speaking of cars. I don't like it how is he in a fist fight with the indestructible Vin Diesel we don't we don't know I think it is Vin Diesel yeah you're probably right yeah hey speaking of I don't like it Mason
Starting point is 01:06:29 but rules are rules uh this is from 140 years on reddit now this is this is probably against the rules a little bit but I thought it was interesting if we're talking cars um hang on I've lost it great good one idiot no, I'll find it again. This is going to be really good. Okay, here we go. I'm ready. I mean, I've been ready. Have you found it?
Starting point is 01:06:51 No. Okay, so this is from 140 years on Twitter. Batman versus Mad Max versus Speed Racer versus James Bond. Caveat, they all have to stay in their cars. Can you go again from the top? Batman. Yep. You're familiar with his work. Yep. Mad Max. Which top? Batman. Yep. You're familiar with his work.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Yep. Mad Max. Which version? Batman. Yeah. We've got to go cinematic. I think we're going Ben Affleck, right? Yeah, we're going Ben Affleck, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Ooh, that's a car. That's a bloody car. Or do we have to go... But that's not an iconic version of the car. Somebody suggested underneath this which Batmobile. Even if it's the Tumbler. Yeah. Well, what do you...
Starting point is 01:07:24 Anyway, we'll get back to that. Okay, 140 years is the guy suggested it. It's up to them. I would say some version of the 89 Returns Forever animated series Batmobile. Okay, sure. Because it's the iconic version. All right, done.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Yeah. So Mad Max, Speed Racer, James Bond, have to stay in their car, Demolition Derby style. Which Bond? Daniel Craig. So he doesn't have an invisible car. Correct. Although that would add a fun little rink to it, wouldn't it?
Starting point is 01:07:51 It certainly would. Yeah. There's not a lot of room for manoeuvrability, and the Batmobile... No, the bloody American football field is pretty big. Yeah, but if you've got eight cars on there or whatever it is, but also that version of the Batmobile American football feels pretty big. Yeah, but if you've got eight cars on there or whatever it is. Yeah, but also that version of the Batmobile has to shoot a grappling hook to turn a regular corner.
Starting point is 01:08:11 That's true, yes. So what are you doing there, you know? He's probably parking and putting the shields up and then just waiting. Yeah, that's probably right. Mad Max would crash his. Immediately. Almost immediately. I don't know much about Speed racer the mark 5 other than speed and racing yeah what do you know about
Starting point is 01:08:31 him uh let's see uh is he a killer no he's not a killer that's true he's he's we'll see here's the thing he's not a killer yeah and also the mark 5 is like it has an open top right and also the most part he's not it's not a combat car not well and he oh isn't it is it uh well i mean it's got it's got like like saw blades oh really yeah it is a combat car yeah okay so it's kind of it's more or less indestructible but it has an open top. Yes. Sometimes it's got the... You can put the cover on, but like when he's driving it, like in competition, open top. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:09 And this is a competition. Yes, that's true. Do you think there's any chance that Batman could shoot him through the head with a grappling hook? I mean, he wouldn't, There's a chance Bond
Starting point is 01:09:17 could shoot him through the head with a handgun. Bond would have a gun also, like in the dashboard. Yeah, exactly. He'd have many guns. In the glove compartment. I mean, even he'd have in the dashboard. Yeah, exactly. He'd have many guns. In the glove compartment. I mean, even he'd have a handgun.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Yeah, absolutely. I would say with him. Yeah. I think also it has to be the Aston Martin DB5 if it's the classic. So not the gadgets one? No, this is the gadgets one. Okay. So this is machine.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Because, you know, he's got the one that doesn't have the gadgets. He's got the Casino Royale one, doesn't have gadgets. Oh, sure. Yeah. But we're giving the gadgets one. No, this is the Skyfall one. Okay. And the classic version. So it's got machine guns in theale one doesn't have gadgets. Oh, sure. Yeah, no, this is the Skyfall one. Okay. And the classic version.
Starting point is 01:09:47 So it's got machine guns in the headlights. Yeah. Oil slick, ejector seat. So all he has to do is get somebody in that passenger seat, eject him, they're done. So he's like, Batman, get, get, I'll help you. Get in here. Come on, mate.
Starting point is 01:10:02 I think it's Batman from just sitting it out. I think like Mad Max, if drove at him, he could just put the shell over it and Mad Max would flip it. So he's out immediately. Look, ultimately Mad Max's car isn't very good. Like it's only good in a universe where this isn't happening. And also it's not even that good no yeah exactly like it's not as good as a monster truck no yeah look i think his cars yeah i think mad max is immediately out
Starting point is 01:10:33 okay because it's it's a what can he do why why is fury road so entertaining he's not good at anything but that's why it's entertaining i guess guess that's true, yeah. Now, he flips it immediately on Batman's shield. Or on the Mark V. He connects with the Mark V, it flips. Right, right. Yeah. And depending how he lands, he could kill Speed Racer. That's true.
Starting point is 01:10:55 He could land, yeah, crush his head. Yeah. All right, let's go with that. All right. Batman, through waiting it out? He's got so many gadgets. I don't think he... No.
Starting point is 01:11:08 The classic Batmobile is somewhat bullet resistant. Yeah. But it's not indestructible. Sure. Yeah. But... What if he switches to the bloody... The Bat...
Starting point is 01:11:19 That Bat rocket sled thing? Remember? It's in the middle of it. True. From Batman Returns. Would he? No. It? It's in the middle of it. True. From Batman Returns. Would he? No. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Maybe last minute? Yeah. Did Nolan steal that idea? Yeah, kind of. For the Tumblr? It's an homage. Yeah. Why would that be in the Tumblr?
Starting point is 01:11:36 Yeah. I know. You're against it. I'm very against it. I'm well aware. Yeah. Yeah. How long can he wait it out, though, is my question.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Long enough for Mad Max to flip his own car. Yep. James Bond to shoot Speed Racer through the head. Speed Racer's car isn't bulletproof, I presume. No, it is. What? Yeah, it's bulletproof. Is the windows bulletproof?
Starting point is 01:11:58 Yeah. He'd roll them up straight away? He'd roll them up straight away, yeah. It's made of some sort of weird it's made of some sort of weird like super duro aluminium compound or something like that and so you just like apply an electric like if it's got a ding in it you just apply an electrical current to it and undings itself like it's gonna fix itself no no okay he's got also he's got the monkey in the in the boot he's got the monkey in his weird little cousin or whatever his little brother in the boot
Starting point is 01:12:24 you can't bring another person or they always they're all they're mostly they're almost certainly going to be because it's every episode of speed racer it's like now you you little kid and your monkey don't get in the boot of the mark 5 because speed's got to do an important race and then two seconds later they're like we're in the boot of the car so they're in there they're definitely in there and bond's going to kill them okay fair enough so they're going to in the boot of the car. So they're in there. They're definitely in there and Bond's going to kill them. Okay, fair enough. So they're going to pop the boot during the battle. I think so. And Bond is going to also
Starting point is 01:12:48 perceive them as a threat. And kill them, yes. I think Bond could kill everybody except Batman. Yeah. Like he's got a limit to bullets as well. That's true.
Starting point is 01:12:56 It's bulletproof enough. I think so, yeah. Also it has rockets, presumably. These versions? The Batman 89 version. Yeah. Well, all that.
Starting point is 01:13:07 It's got machine guns. Yeah, that'll do. I mean, James Bond's car isn't bulletproof, as we saw. Oh, that version. No, it's not. It's trash. All right, yeah, that's fair enough. Yeah, actually, that's probably true.
Starting point is 01:13:18 I reckon Speed Racer and Mad Max go immediately. Yeah. And then it's just Batman, bond machine gun face off because these versions have no compunction against killing each other that's a good point i forgot batman's a murderer yeah yeah so it's batman i would say ejector seat though can't leave the car though okay now you're right it is batman because if you leave the car you lose the demolition derby good yeah and you just you're just right for being shot out of the air that's true yeah yeah unless like my feeling would be if eventually i think the only other way it could go is if they both run out of machine gun bullets and gimmicks yeah and they both like like open the top of the car right just to just to get the light of the land
Starting point is 01:14:05 and then james bond shoots batman in the mouth which he could do yeah i don't think batman's that dumb though oh this version though he's kind of dumb he's kind of dumb yeah okay that's a possibility i'm open to it yeah or if they or if they because what could potentially happen is they like side swipe each other with each other with the canopies open and James Bond tears Batman's fruit roll-up mask off. And then he's ripe for a killing. The next pass, he's dead. That's a pretty wide card.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Bond, how far has he reached? He's got to reach. Craig's got little monkey arms. That's true, you're right. He's not reaching that far. He's got King Kong's Tyrannosaurus Rex arms. I still think he could shoot him little monkey arms that's true you're right he's not reaching that far he's got King Kong's Tyrannosaurus Rex arms I still think he
Starting point is 01:14:46 could shoot him through the mouth though you're right yeah I'm still giving it to Batman just for a more
Starting point is 01:14:52 durable car that's true yeah but it'd be interesting no I think you're right because Batman would machine gun the car
Starting point is 01:14:58 eject a seat or torch it it's got like flames yeah that's true it wouldn't matter alright it's Batman alright
Starting point is 01:15:06 what do you got what do you want me to do yeah do you do one I literally just did one it was that one oh you did too I just closed oh no
Starting point is 01:15:15 my bloody thing my browser bloody hell Google Drive's good oh yeah got some stuff on Google Drive it's great man because you don't have to save anything
Starting point is 01:15:24 it's just automatically. Google, if you're listening, I'm open to sponsorship. Nice. They've got a lot of money too. All right, what about this one? Jessica Speed. Snake Plissken versus Nick Fury. Battle of the Eyepatches.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Battle of the Eyepatches. Movie version. Okay, sure. Not Hasselhoff, I assume. Okay, good. Have we ever seen him fight? No. We've seen him think on his feet.
Starting point is 01:15:49 Yes. We've seen him with a good solid action sequence. That one. Yeah, that one. That was great. That's a great action sequence. It's the best. We've seen him shoot people.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Sure. He could probably talk a man out of shooting him. Not Snake Plissken. No, you shooting him. Not Snake Plissken. No, you're right. Not Snake Plissken. In fact, what would work though on Snake Plissken is reverse or reverse psychology. Because if you're like, there's no way you're going to shoot me, Snake Plissken, he would. But if you're like, there's no way you wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:16:17 Wouldn't shoot me, Snake Plissken, he wouldn't shoot you out of spite, I would imagine. He is very, yeah, he is like that, isn't he? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Maybe he has that oppositional't he? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Maybe he has that oppositional defiant disorder syndrome thing. Almost certainly. Yeah. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:16:30 How's Plissken in a fight? I don't remember. He's a great surfer. Yes, that's true. That I don't doubt. Yep. Has he got guns? They've both got guns, I'm going to say.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Yeah. Uh-huh. They would. Who's a better shot? Fury. Fury can hit a bloody, bloody plane with a rocket launcher. Correct. And another car with a little machine gun.
Starting point is 01:16:51 But have you ever seen him point blank shoot somebody? Must have done, surely. He would have. I'm sure he's killed like... Office workers. Yeah, sure. Office workers. Made their KPIs, yes.
Starting point is 01:17:04 But he's still quite old. Yep. You've got to factor that in. He's no spring chicken. Snake Plissken's probably 30, 35, maybe. Okay. And Snake Plissken, he's a brawler. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:17:18 He's a tough guy. He's got no sleeves. Doesn't need them. Oh, that's true. Or is that a weakness? For Chinese burns. Yes, that's true. Or is that a weakness? For Chinese burns. Yes, it is. It definitely is.
Starting point is 01:17:30 I don't know, man. Don't know enough about him. Well, I do, actually. Depth perception. Yep. Bad. I mean, that's not going to impede either of them. Correct.
Starting point is 01:17:42 And they'd both be used to it also. Now, I think Snake Plissken is probably the better shot. He's better at surviving on the streets. He's more dangerous. Fury is an office man. Oh, yes. In a way. He's gone soft is what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:17:55 Yeah, he's soft-ish. Yeah, okay. Uh-huh. He's got more secrets, but that's not going to help you, is it? No. It's going to help you being riddled with bullets. Uh-huh. And I think Plissken's a better fighter, so we came down to it. Okay okay should we do one more or two more let's do two more two more okay i've
Starting point is 01:18:08 got a few here i don't know which one to pick okay uh angus joker on reddit has said professor xavier versus oracle in a wheelchair race oracle yeah well she's fitter she's so fit she was bat girl not even a question not even a question do you want another one yes please go sure uh not even a question do you want another one yes please go sure uh kylo ren darth vader kylo ren versus darth vader yeah now kylo ren is upset that he's not going to be as powerful as darth vader uh-huh but i would argue that he is probably more powerful with the force he can stop a blaster bolt midair yes he can he's also he can like bring some like he can pick somebody up bodily and like bring him yeah yeah like vader can vader's got skills as well yeah but vader has no pain threshold how do you mean or if he does sorry he's as incredibly high pain threshold yeah that's better yeah it makes way more sense like he'd probably have no nerve endings that's true yeah he can take a severe beating yeah and he's fine yep or you know now in this scenario
Starting point is 01:19:10 we're gonna say neither of them is overcome by emotion by the fact that they're whatever no okay none of that it's just kylo ren would presume that's not the real darth vader right and darth vader be like who's this idiot exactly he doesn't know who he is. Okay, yeah. Yeah. That's a good question. There's a broad, he's also got more of a broadsword. Yeah, okay. If that makes any difference. Right.
Starting point is 01:19:33 So this is Darth Vader in his prime, but it's not Anakin. No. I think Anakin would be. Yeah. Kylo Ren. Oh, absolutely. But, so this is Darth Vader, let's say, just before, let's say, what have we... Yeah, have you seen Star Wars Rebels? Around then.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Okay. So just before A New Hope. I haven't, but okay. Yeah, so very dangerous. No remorse. Not tied down by family. No biological limbs of any kind. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Yeah. Because his weaknesses, again, is his family. That's true. So it's before all that. Okay, so Darth Vader isader is technically he's much more skilled as a as a sword well he's been traded trained as an actual by real jedi yeah okay and he's killed real jedi sure yeah yeah but he is much slower yes and kylo ren we haven't actually seen kylo ren fight in his prime that That's true. Because he was shot.
Starting point is 01:20:30 And everybody else who got hit with that bowcaster flew like 100 feet. He's literally the only person who hasn't died immediately after being shot by one of those. Which is pretty impressive, mate. I think Vader is more unstoppable. Kylo Ren can clearly be flustered. Yes. And he can be worn down. I don't think Vader gets worn down in the same way.
Starting point is 01:20:56 No, that's true. We've got mechanized limbs. So that's true. For one, yeah. So I think it would be Vader on brute strength and endurance. Okay, sure. Yeah, that's how I think that would go. Do brute strength and endurance. Okay, sure. That's how I think that would go. Do you think that Kylo Ren would immediately go to using the Force?
Starting point is 01:21:14 Because he'll stop a blaster bolt, he'll grab a... What do all the buttons on Darth Vader's chest do? What do they do? That's a good question. Well, they used to do a whole bunch of stuff. What if he just flips all of them using the Force? We've mentioned this before. Why is it that when people aren't uh uh when when jedi and and sits uh a lightsaber battling yeah why aren't they always just switching each other's lightsabers on and on because they're using the force to keep
Starting point is 01:21:35 their own on okay right and vader could probably do the same thing with his chest yeah i mean you know what's interesting in a recent darth v comic, a guy has the keys, essentially. Like, you know, how you lock a car to Vader's suit and shuts him down. Okay. And so Vader can't move. And then using the Force, he gets up. Right. And empowers the limbs and kills the guy.
Starting point is 01:21:56 Uh-huh. So he's that kind of... Okay. He's got that kind of resolve. Right, okay. How long did that... Okay, when the guy car remoted him, what did he then do?
Starting point is 01:22:10 Did he walk away? No, he just kind of stood there while Vader had weird flashbacks. Okay. See, that's the thing. Like, I think if you stand about... Yeah. I reckon Kylo could take this, technically.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Like, he's overconfident and he's easily flustered. But if he flips all the switches. If he could. If he could flip all the switches. But that's the thing like. I'd love to see that. Yeah. But that's the thing like Darth Vader's never fought anybody who knows.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Like he's never fought a Jedi while wearing that get up. Yes he has. He killed a bunch of Jedi after the purge or whatever. I don't know, man. Yeah. I don't think any of them is expecting that. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:50 Fair enough. Look, I'm not saying definitively, but in a way I am saying definitively. I reckon if he flips all the switches and then beheads him real quick. Yeah, it's possible. Then that's done. Like this could be over very quickly. I'm going to go the other way.
Starting point is 01:23:02 I'm going to say Vader. Sometimes we disagree, Mason. That's true. Or do we have to bring it to... No don't have to like that's true let me think oh we should come to a consensus on this okay fine you win no okay great great good look as long as i win should we do any more or should we save him nah let's save him all right good stuff i've got a whole bunch here that i haven't even read out. We got hundreds, thousands maybe. I have no idea how many.
Starting point is 01:23:28 So we really appreciate it. We love doing this. We're happy to do one until we're eventually pressured into doing another. Whatever. You know what I'm talking about, right? Yeah, I know what you're talking about, yeah. Whatever I said then. You know what it's time for, Mason?
Starting point is 01:23:38 What's it time for? Our famous segment, What Are We Reading? What Are We Gonna Read? I'm doing the thing. segment what are we reading what we gonna read i'm doing the thing what are we reading today my god mason yes what are you reading uh you know what this i said i was gonna watch hardcore henry i didn't we already had this conversation yeah i know just just to refresh okay somebody took previously on earlier this episode yeah Yeah, exactly. So instead I watched the Neighbours films. You know, Bad Neighbours?
Starting point is 01:24:07 I watched that the other day. Huh. Yesterday. Bad Neighbours 2. So did I. What'd you think? They're pretty good, right? They're pretty good, man.
Starting point is 01:24:13 They're solid. They're real solid. Zac Efron, bloody... He's funny, man. He's a funny guy, right? He's real funny. Yeah. What do you think of his bod?
Starting point is 01:24:21 Rockin'. Not as much in two. Really? I thought he was more in two. Is he? I can't tell. I'll be honest. I'll get you some side-by-side comparisons.
Starting point is 01:24:30 If you could, please. And then we'll go from there. No, they're good movies. I'd say they're equally good, which is unusual. Yeah, right. I think two didn't do super well, though. Like, it did okay, but they thought it was going to be much bigger. But at least it's not a straight,
Starting point is 01:24:45 you'd think it'd be a straight ahead total retread. Yeah. And it is in a way. There's parts of it, but it kind of twists it. But it's not, I went into it assuming, oh, this is going to be hangover too retread, like exactly the same, except it's women instead of men. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:58 But not different. There's some twists and turns along the way. Yeah. I remember the first time I'd seen Zac Efron really do anything was in 17 again. I maintain he's really funny in that. Okay, I haven't seen it, but I'll give it a whirl. He's got some skills. Is that Tim Allen?
Starting point is 01:25:11 Is Tim Allen the dad? No, he's Matthew Perry from He Gets De-Aged or something. Maybe it's not good. No, I remember really liking it. No, it's a classic body swap de-aging film. Exactly. I watched Fresh Meat. I've been watching all of Fresh Meat. I've mentioned this on a previous episode. That's right, you have. It's a good show, de-aging film exactly uh i watched fresh meat i've been watching all the fresh meat i've mentioned this on a previous that's right you have a show right
Starting point is 01:25:28 i finally got around to it it's about uni students living in living in a house together it's a british show it's got one of the guys from the in-betweeners various comedians and whatnot it pretty much nails what it's like to kind of go to uni yeah it's not all just like wild parties and and whatever there's like anxieties with tests and and kind of dealing with living with lunatics and all this kind of stuff. So, and there's only like four seasons and that's done. Yeah. Nice.
Starting point is 01:25:50 So no, I know you've seen it, Mason. Yeah. I recommend that you see it again. Okay. Cause you probably missed some of the new ones. So don't watch Hardcore Henry? No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:25:58 You got to get around to that though. I should. It's ready to bloody, bloody ready to go. Don't think that you should do it like an Oculus Rift. Like, strap your iPad to your head. And then run around the streets of Melbourne. Vomiting. Yeah, good. Mason, letters.
Starting point is 01:26:13 I normally do a build-up. Yeah, right. I should have... The classic one was... Shh. Sorry. Oh, letters. We love you.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Some letters. They're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going. Some letters, they're only a take away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. This is from Spencer Kipps, and he's hashtagged Weekly Planet Pod. Very good. Because that's what you do if you want to reach the show. That's what you do.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Okay. You do it on Twitter. All right. God. What's the best? God. What's the best? Could you hashtag it on Tumblr?
Starting point is 01:26:42 You could, but- We'd never check it. Where's that going? We'd never check it. Yeah. that going? We'd never check it. I'm afraid of Tumblr. I don't know what it is. I've no idea what goes on there. What is the best sci-fi movie of the 2010s?
Starting point is 01:26:52 Brackets, big fan of the podcast and YouTube channel. Keep doing good. Oh. So, since 2010 forward, Mason. Okay. Now, I know you're a big fan of Looper. I am not. That is incorrect and wrong.
Starting point is 01:27:03 I would put that up there. I think it's a good one, but I know you would not. Correct. What year did Sunshine come out? 2007. I can't say it. Son of a bitch. Yep, that's right.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Would you count Mad Max as sci-fi? Or post-apocalyptic? I guess, but it's so... It's more steampunk. Yeah. I really like Inception. That's right on the cusp. That's 2010.
Starting point is 01:27:25 Inception's great. Inception is great. Yeah. I really like Inception. That's right on the cusp. That's 2010. Inception's great. Inception is great. Yeah, go on. And it's got, because it's got, it's got, they've built this premise and there's a whole world kind of behind it and you're like, well, what, you know, it's a great movie, I think, and stylish and it looks good and the action's good and stuff like that. And it's also like, I want to know more about the world. Like what happened, you know, they built this technology.
Starting point is 01:27:50 Where else have they used it? That kind of thing, you know? Right, right. Cool. Absolutely. Do you think we'd get a follow-up to that ever? No. Yeah, probably not.
Starting point is 01:27:57 I don't think. No. Nolan's bloody doing his Dunkirk's or whatever. Yeah. Source code's great as well. Source code is great. Yeah. What about Snowpiercer? I still haven't seen it. It's really good. Yeah. Source code's great as well. Source code is great. Yeah. What about Snowpiercer?
Starting point is 01:28:05 I still haven't seen it. It's really good. Yeah. Got it on your iPad? It's on Stan, so don't you worry about that. What about Ex Machina? That's also great, yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:15 That's like solid sci-fi as well. That's true, yeah. That is like your hardcore thinking man's sci-fi with a sexy robot. That's true. Edge of Tomorrow. That's sci-fi fantasy. I like it. I uh age of tomorrow that's i like it i don't know i wouldn't say i love it okay yeah i love tron legacy i know nobody else does i think that came out 2009 did it
Starting point is 01:28:32 oh yeah you idiot oh yeah what about the plan of the apes the new ones i like them a lot but i've i will not go back to them i don't think think. They're not compelling, but I'll watch Inception bloody heaps of times, mate. I'm going to say Ex Machina. Favourite? Or Snowpiercer. What about 2011's Real Steel featuring Hugh Jackman? It's totally fine. I think I watched it on a plane or something.
Starting point is 01:29:01 I've never ever seen it. Have you seen Attack the Block? No, I've been meaning to watch that for ages. I've heard it's amazing. Yeah, the Block? No. I've been meaning to watch that for age. I've heard it's amazing. Yeah. I've been, hey, I got to watch that. Yeah. It's got, what's his name?
Starting point is 01:29:10 Especially if John Boyega is going to be poorly interviewed by us in this podcast. That's right, Mason. We're going to get him. Is that what we're doing? I have no idea. Do we do that? Is that what we're doing? No, I don't know if we do that.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Yeah. It was very nice of people on Twitter because John Boyega put out a tweet and he's like, hey, I'm going to add podcasts to my interview schedule next year. And some people were very nice and were like, go on the Weekly Planet. And I'm like, do we do that? Should we do it? Should we start some campaign or just leave it?
Starting point is 01:29:38 What we could do... Bear in mind, neither of us have ever interviewed anybody. Yeah. What we could do is just wait until he comes to Australia and mill about his hotel. Okay. All right, we'll do that instead. Yeah, great.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Sounds good. Okay, cool. I'm going to think on that. Okay, cool. Next question? Sure. Next letter? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:56 This is from Kyle underscore the underscore Guile. Since Cap's team is on the run now, what do you think of a smaller scale Secret Avengers movie? Great. That'd be really good. That would be very Winter Soldier-esque in that way. Yeah. You're low-key, you're down on the street,
Starting point is 01:30:12 you're running through a mall wearing a hat over your face. That's right. You're wearing the MCU, I'm being discreet, uniform, which is baseball cap, aviator sunglasses, leather jacket. Just put it on. Just put it on. No one will recognize you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:25 I would love that. I wonder if we're going to get a bit of that in the next Avengers film because there's talk, there's speculation that we're going to get two Avengers teams. We're going to get a secret underground version and then you Stark official.
Starting point is 01:30:36 So I wonder whether we are going to see something like that. I hope so. Yeah, that'd be cool. Because we've got Nomad. That's right. Ready to go. Do you think he's just going to use an oven door? He'd have to.
Starting point is 01:30:48 Painted red, white and blue. No, that's cool. It's a good idea. I don't think they'd be able to fit it in between now and now. No. And I'm sure they won't call it the Secret Avengers. I don't think you'd call it Secret Avengers. I don't think you could.
Starting point is 01:31:02 That's right. Well, we can't move on until we decide. Okay, you can. Yes. You can. One of us has to relent. Yep. This is from Runaway Rogan.
Starting point is 01:31:11 Do you think that Rogue One is going to be better than Force Awakens? Also, grab that gem. Hashtag with your plan upon. So you reach the show. I think it's going to be better. Ooh. I want it to be better? Yep.
Starting point is 01:31:24 I don't know. That's the oh answer we can't move on until you you know what okay fine even though there's been a bunch of reshoots that doesn't necessarily mean anything i think it is going to be better uh-huh because i really like the force awakens yep but it is a retread in a lot of ways yes it is but also i liked i knew that kind of going in so i wasn't disappointed i'm like well i know what jj abrams does we're gonna get like a rehash yeah this i really want to see something different and i'm gonna put a lot of faith in it and say yes it's going to be better new territory stuff also what do you think about the theory that uh snoke is boba fett that's the latest one it was on reddit what why would he have the force exactly
Starting point is 01:32:05 somebody's put a it's a very very involved uh scenario and he's put all the pieces together like he's all melted because he's been in the sala that's it that's that's that works yeah but other than that no no it's why would a why would a about like a like a dirty old bounty hunter a dirty old new zealand bounty dirty old New Zealand bounty hunter. Become a Jedi and rebuild the Empire for purposes of getting back on like three people. Yeah. And like he'd just want Han Solo, wouldn't he really? Like ultimately.
Starting point is 01:32:37 And ultimately Han Solo kicked him into that Sarlacc pit by accident. Yeah. Not really. It'd be better served just with a conversation. Hey, sorry about that i apologize i mean you did you did capture me and put me in that weird block so you know yeah fair enough although i guess maybe one of the theories is that he's trying to rebuild the mandalorian culture but we haven't seen any of that but again there's no indication that that
Starting point is 01:33:00 guy's good at anything let alone knows the force that. That's true. Yeah. I have a new Snoke theory. Would you like to hear it? That I've come up with. It's not a joke one. Okay. No, my theory is, and I'm sure there's a thousand versions. I bet you're the first one. Okay.
Starting point is 01:33:15 It's that Snoke is all the evil that was in Luke Skywalker. What, and it spilled out? Yep. In the cave? No, like some- Like he physically separated? Yes, he did. Like he went, Yeah, exactly. Yeah. when it spilled out yep in the cave no like like he physically separated it yes he did like he went
Starting point is 01:33:28 yeah exactly yeah somewhere between 6 and 7 you know what yep I don't hate that there you go but it's a whole lot of new territory that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:33:38 yeah I'm not against it Mason it would have to be done very well because my feeling is that if it turns out the one of the reasons it can't be or that shouldn't be boba fett or jar jar binks or lobot or yeah whoever is because for so many people force awakens was their first star wars movie right so because this guy every you know a huge chunk of the audience is going to be like i don't know who that is
Starting point is 01:34:01 that being said he does say that he's witnessed the rise and fall of the Empire. So we'd have to be around to see that. What about the fall and rise? And he's got into... Yeah. Other way around. I guess so. Yeah, that works.
Starting point is 01:34:13 But yeah, he was there for all... Fixed it. He's there for all the significant moments. Uh-huh. But I think it's implied that he saw the Republic fall. Oh, okay. So I don't hate it though, Mason. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:34:25 That's why he's all goopy, because he looks like Darth Vader, but he's not Darth Vader. He's not Darth Vader. He looks like Darth Vader because he's got the Skywalker evil in him. Everybody tweet at Mason how dumb that is. Please do. Please do. No, I don't hate it. With minutiae.
Starting point is 01:34:38 Tweet at me minutiae why it couldn't work. And I'll block you. I'll block you all. I won't. Do you block? No. I'm not a blocker yeah you know what i do do if someone is a doodoo there you go if someone's a real prick and it very rarely
Starting point is 01:34:51 happens i mute them yeah because i think it's better than a block because if they block people like that i'd assume they'd be like i got to the winner yeah exactly but if you mute them presumably they're just screaming at you forever and That's true, yeah. And they don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Last one. Because it's our 150th special episode spectacular, I thought we'd do four questions. Because in Return of the Jedi he's all dressed in black and then in Force Awakens he's all dressed in white.
Starting point is 01:35:17 Because the evil's gone. So it's like Superman 3 where he splits. It's exactly like Superman 3. Oh, you didn't say. Is Force Awakens, which is going to be better? Rogue One? Oh, uh, that's a good question. No, Rogue One. I think Rogue One's going to be better. I want it to be better more than I
Starting point is 01:35:32 definitely know that. I think it will be, I think it also, it'll be, you know, it'll be less divisive, certainly. Okay. I think if it's a good movie, 99% of the people who are Star Wars fans are going to be like, it's a good movie because of the action and the casting and the acting and what have you.
Starting point is 01:35:47 Yeah, yeah. But I think Force Awakens, even among Star Wars fans, it split people. Sure. I think it's mostly positive. Yeah, but I think Force Awakens, like some people, a decent chunk of people were like, well, this is a return to form and another decent chunk of people were like, rehash, don't like it.
Starting point is 01:36:02 I think it's a good jumping off point. Yeah, absolutely. And I think because you kind of had to rehash, don't like it. I think it's a good jumping off point. Yeah, absolutely. And I think because you kind of had to rehash to get new fans on board as well. Yeah. You couldn't just be like, this is a straight continuation and you need to kind of reset the universe. So I get why they did it. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:36:15 And I enjoyed it. This is from Mr. Mixoplexconfins. Great. You know that one? Oh, he directed Wanted, yeah. Yeah, he did. Did Mr. Airsoil Baso ever have a sausage sizzle at Bunnings? I heard this from another famous Aussie at Smitty Chan.
Starting point is 01:36:33 Apparently said that. Hashtag with your planet pod. Do you want to explain that? I love a Bunnings sausage sizzle. When you go to a Bunnings, which is like our hardware store, our Home Depot, every one of them, always, without fail, has a tent set up with sausages on the go where you can bloody grab a sausage and bread with some sauce and some cheese or some onions or whatever you want i never walk past them neither ever i i have if i've just had
Starting point is 01:36:58 lunch i will stop for a sausage me too yeah love sausage in bread. Do you go before or after? Going to Bunnings. Yeah. Oftentimes I'm just... You do both. No, oftentimes. Yeah, I have done that. And sometimes I am not... I'm going to Bunnings.
Starting point is 01:37:13 I just see the sausages. Oh, you drop in. Just drop in for a sausage. Fair enough. See, I'll get on the way out because I'm like, this would be my reward for going to a hardware store
Starting point is 01:37:20 because I hate these places. Now that I think about it, it's mostly way in and way out. I do both. Yeah. Good stuff. Now, Mason think about it, it's mostly way in and way out. I do both. Yeah. Good stuff. Now, Mason, before we wrap it up, I'm going to be on the Steel Wars live call-in show. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:37:31 This Saturday, our time. Great. Australian EST, 11 a.m. Saturday. But if you're in the U.S., Eastern Standard Time, 9 p.m. Friday. Pacific Time, 6 p.m. Fridays. Friday, this Friday. Apparently, I'm not exactly sure how it works. Steel and I will be having a convo. Correct. Pacific time 6pm Fridays Friday this Friday apparently I'm not exactly sure
Starting point is 01:37:46 how it works still and I will be having a convo correct and then people are going to call in and abuse you
Starting point is 01:37:51 yeah you can abuse me so if I've muted you on Twitter now's your opportunity to get at me directly if you've been like I've been shouting at him
Starting point is 01:37:58 for quite some time and he hasn't responded in any way bear in mind I haven't muted you if you're not a total prick over a long period of in mind, I haven't muted you if you're not a total prick over a long period of time. Right.
Starting point is 01:38:07 If I haven't answered you, it's just because. We get a lot of tweets. We get a fair bit of feedback, yeah. That's going to be great. Yeah, so I'm hoping that goes well. So it'd be nice to chat to some people live. I've never done that, so it'd be interesting. It's going to be great.
Starting point is 01:38:18 I mean, I chat to you every week, but. It's not live. No, that's true. Secret, I pre-record all my responses. I don't know if you know that. I'm not even here. This is all written. He pushes a button on a box and I'm here.
Starting point is 01:38:31 Good stuff. Oh, Dan, just quickly, happy birthday to Abraham. Lincoln. Yes. Our first president. He's from his wife, Hope. He's turned 33. They've had 10 years together and he's been awesome
Starting point is 01:38:45 and he even stayed... Four score and seven years you've been together. Okay. He's been awesome and he even stayed through cancer. Wow. Happy 33rd birthday.
Starting point is 01:38:52 Happy birthday. Yeah. I don't normally do a birthday shout out, Mason, but I've done it this time. Because you hate birthdays. I hate birthdays. And Mondays. And Mondays.
Starting point is 01:38:58 But you love lasagna. I love... You hate that bloody dog, Odie, that lives with you. You hate Nermal. I do. John's a pain in my ass. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:09 You don't even have a job. Why do you hate Mondays? I guess because John hates Mondays because he has to go to work. Yeah, you just bear the wrath. You bear the wrath of John, yeah. John's severe depression. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:19 What a sad world that is. Just a man living with his cat who hates him. Yeah. It's pretty great. Anyway, Mason, where can people find us? Oh, we're at Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter and Gmail and Facebook and Bandcamp. We've got some audio commentaries. We'll probably do a new one pretty soon-ish. Hopefully.
Starting point is 01:39:37 And we might have some extra stuff coming up over the next couple of weeks. Because we recorded some stuff last week. We just got to sort out how that's all going to come together. week we just got to get sorted out some how that's all coming together how we're going to deliver it that's also true
Starting point is 01:39:49 we'll hopefully get it up on Patreon a little bit earlier but regardless you'll see it yeah here's a good idea if you like the show
Starting point is 01:39:57 and you want to maybe get some surprise bonus content just subscribe on iTunes we might just throw it into the feed
Starting point is 01:40:02 maybe but not this week definitely but maybe next week definitely not this week definitely but maybe next week preemptively do that maybe
Starting point is 01:40:07 I'll also follow the weekly planet on Twitter I'm at Wikipedia Brown on Twitter yes I'm at Mr. Sunday Movies let's see
Starting point is 01:40:15 if you want to help out the show you could go to patreon.com slash Mr. Sunday Movies throw in a buck a month correct keep the lights on
Starting point is 01:40:23 keep them on we've got an Amazon affiliate link in the episode description. In the script show. That's the one. So if you're going to buy something on Amazon anyway, as you often do, buy some bloody anything. You buy some light bulbs. You buy some- Buy some eggs.
Starting point is 01:40:35 Adult entertainment products. I don't know. What do you like? Sex eggs. Yeah. Buy that DVD you've always wanted of the Indominus Rex and the alien queen making out. Buy that. Uh,
Starting point is 01:40:46 and, just, you click on the link, you go through the regular Amazon, pay the low prices. We get a kickback somehow. Correct. Uh,
Starting point is 01:40:52 what else do we do? Uh, what, what, what, what, what, what,
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Starting point is 01:41:03 what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what Correct. Pretty good. Pretty bloody good, mate. I just want to quickly point out that Raw Collings, who does a lot of animated stuff. He's at the Weekly Planet on Twitter. But he also has a Patreon, patreon.com slash rawcollings. He's finishing up university. Oh, great.
Starting point is 01:41:13 He's doing a bit of bloody video editing. Yeah. And his bloody stuff's on point, mate. You should subscribe to his YouTube channel. Because he makes a lot of animated Weekly Planet. And he runs the Weekly Planet feed, as we mentioned. Yeah. And he does that out of the goodness of his heart.
Starting point is 01:41:27 So I'm going to chip some money in there from us as well. Great. I'll link that below also. That's it. It's all right. I'm not going to contribute anything, but I did alter his university transcripts, so he passes. Good.
Starting point is 01:41:39 That's the greatest gift of all. You're welcome. You're welcome, Robert. That's the show, Mason. That's the show, I think, Mason. Thanks for 150 fantastic episodes. I've been on 150 of them. How many have you been on? No, you were sick or something.
Starting point is 01:41:57 I don't know. Thank you. I was away both times. That's right, yeah. Well done on that fantastic 148 episodes, Mason. Nice. I'll see you in two weeks when you've cracked the 150. I was going to spring that on you in two weeks,
Starting point is 01:42:07 but you bloody beat me to it because I meant to do it in episode 100. I'm like, fuck. So now I have to wait 50 episodes and you bloody beat me to it. I've waited a year. That's right. Yeah. Oh, well. Thanks for listening, though.
Starting point is 01:42:23 We appreciate it. Thanks for listening. Thanks, everybody, for telling people about the show yep enjoying it thanks for your nice reviews yeah always thanks for letting us know we're not alone in this this universe correct yeah this is some kind of ruse all these statistics well i feel maybe that was going to be the revelation is that you've been building like hundreds of fake Twitter accounts. People are like, hey, I love the show. I love the show, mate.
Starting point is 01:42:49 And I'm like, oh, this feels pretty good. That thing's not even on. No. Shouting into nothing. All right. Thanks, guys. We'll see you at episode 151. Grab that gem, you guys.
Starting point is 01:42:58 Bye. 149. I mean, officially. Yeah, that's right. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret.
Starting point is 01:43:17 The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.

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