The Weekly Planet - 152 New DC Casting & Guilty Pleasure Movies
Episode Date: September 12, 2016Uhhhhh what are we doing this week? Right, Daniel Craig back for Bond, Underworld Bloodwar, Avatar 2, Avengers Infinity War, Mel Gibson hating on Batman V Superman and some pretty sweet DC casting. Pl...us we discuss ours and your favourite guilty pleasure TV Shows and Movies. Thanks for listening!5:36 Daniel Craig more Bond or whatever11:25 Underworld Bloodwars trailer14:28 Avatar 2 something16:21 Avengers: Infinity War rehearsals begin17:44 Agents Of SHIELD Ghostrider19:36 The Shocker in Spider-man Homecoming20:21 Hush and Death Of The Family animated movie27:39 Live By Night trailer30:11 Mel Gibson hates Batman V Superman34:12 Flash movie casting35:01 Deathstroke cast for Batman solo movie40:37 Guilty Pleasure Movies/TV Shows1:24:29 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:27:05 Letters It’s Time For LettersMovie Mania Podcast: http://goo.gl/R7Vzv5Amazon affiliate link: https://amzn.to/2OwNoS6Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesMr Sunday Movies YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/lB90W2The Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind our T-Shirts here: https://goo.gl/q6gE9C Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet, the official podcast
of ComicBookMovie.com, where we talk movies, comics, TV shows.
My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday, with me as always my host, Nick Mason.
Welcome Nick Mason to the real 150th episode.
I was just going to do a thing.
This is the real one.
Well, good work.
Episode 152, you've made it 150 episodes.
That's right.
Because I've been away for two.
Let's listen back to some classic James moments from his 150th.
Roll the tape.
I hate coriander.
No, not the Teen Titans character, the spice.
I hate it.
And for some reason, I'm airing my grievances on a podcast about superheroes.
I'm going to talk about it.
I hate this guy from my high school that I haven't spoken to in 10 years.
Why is he doing so many sit-ups on Facebook?
I'm airing my grievances on this superhero podcast for some reason.
Anti-microbe.
Anti-microbe.
Anti-mic.
It doesn't.
It's okay when you're sweating it.
Oh, so many great memories.
So many good memories.
Thanks for putting that together, by the way.
No problem.
It took hours.
And your lady friend has been kind enough to get us a bloody on-air professional radio,
like a professional radio man would have.
That's right.
It's right up to our neon Budweiser sign in the man cave.
Yeah, yeah.
Do you think there's too much lights in this room now?
No, more neon.
More neon it is.
Yeah.
Well, Mason, we've got to talk news for this week.
If we must.
We must.
Now, there was a report this week. If we must. We must.
Now, there was a report this week that Daniel Craig was reportedly offered.
I honestly thought you were going to say Craig David there.
He's the only 2000s British R&B superstar Craig David.
Such a lime beard.
Such a great lime beard.
He was reportedly offered $150 million for two more Bond films.
Wow. Now, Vanity Fair, though, wrote an article that says that they reached out to their sources he was reportedly offered 150 million for two more bond films wow uh now vanity fair though
wrote an article that says that they reached out to their sources and say this is untrue
so look it's probably not true it's it's rumor whatever but what do you think this is something
that sony would entertain are they even going to get 150 million dollars back on the next well
that's that's a good question because it's not like, would you even say that Craig is at the peak of his Bond power
anymore?
And he's going to look like he doesn't want to be there.
Yeah.
He's going to have the face of a man who's only doing it for $150 million.
Imagine that face.
Yeah.
Can you even imagine it?
No.
Actually, I'd kind of want to see that.
He's got the face of a potato who doesn't want to be in a Bond film.
That's how I see him.
But he's wearing a lot of very expensive moisturizer.
Boy, is he.
Which is very important.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, the last time, because on the press junket for Spectre, he was like, if I did
another one, I'd kill myself.
Like he said those exact words, like he was going to slit his wrist or something.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
But I mean, he's got one more contracted.
Yeah.
He could get, and regardless, he could get out of it.
I imagine there's a tantee clause.
I'm sure there is. If he throws a tantee, he could get out of it. I imagine there's a tantee clause. I'm sure there is.
If he throws a tantee, he's allowed out.
Do you think he's done?
Yeah, because his arc is finished.
Yeah.
And I think at this point, they're not going to,
they wouldn't give him a standalone where he does a mission
and then he's done.
No.
They'd want another three-movie arc, I would think.
Yeah, that's right.
Or at least another two-movie.
I don't think he's going to want to do it.
Because he walked away at the end, didn't he?
Yeah.
He met a girl and he didn't kill his brother or something.
Yeah, uh-huh.
Was that what happened?
Uh-huh.
Yeah, yeah.
He got a great discount on printing, on A4 printing, black and white.
Black and white, that's right.
But look, I like him.
I know you feel the same.
His bonds were never better than casino real correct they're their moments but uh i know you thought they were like rapidly
declined in quality i agree yeah like in all of them with myself yeah you said that i said that
and so now i'm agreeing with the thing i said that you said yeah look it's probably not true
but i wouldn't put put a past sony to to like entertain this idea because look sony they
make some they make some decisions mason that's true from top to bottom there is some nonsense
going on yeah and i can give you an example of one yes i finally got on the well we finally got
on the press screening list for sony hooray and they said oh look we don't normally do this because
we prioritize print media that's going
on the next 150 episode that's going on the 300th episode james spectacular reel but yeah they
prioritize print media yeah which is insane and i'm not saying that print like we do better than
print media most print media i'm sure we don't but like you must recognize that that is a ridiculous thing
to say people wake up in the morning and they check twitter for news they don't wake up in
the morning and drag themselves to the front door yeah and look at a newspaper and then yell
that their neighbor if there's any news any news i do that but you know oh daniel craig 150 million
you say what kind of a face would that be? Oh, all right.
Interesting.
Yeah, I mean...
And then you look at what happened with the email leaks.
But you know what?
I'm sure if they were leaked, any studio had their emails leaked.
I'm sure there'd be a lot of weird, crazy shit.
Oh, absolutely, yeah.
Because you get to become a movie executive
by making a series of insane decisions that somehow pay off.
Yeah, that's right.
Every executive who made crazy decisions that didn't pay off don't work there
anymore.
It's just people who have fallen.
It's just John Peters.
It's just John Peters over and over again, producer of 1989's Batman.
But yeah, like, but from all accounts, if you were James Bond for more than a movie,
it is just a painful slog from beginning to end.
It seems that way.
Except for Brosnan.
Brosnan seemed to love it.
Yeah.
Even though his Bond films weren't good.
But he seemed to be genuinely gutted when he lost it.
But I think you need someone who's fresh and enthusiastic
and you want that enthusiasm and freshness to be stripped away
over the course of several years.
Right.
You want them to come in super fresh and enthusiastic.
Correct.
You want the British media and the tabloids to crush them
for not being the perfect epitome of Bond
for months and months and months before the first movie comes out.
And it's generally a pretty good one.
Yeah, and then you want them to be kind of a bit of a downer
because of that, but then the first movie's pretty good
and then, again, you want a rapid decline in quality.
And then you fire Martin Campbell immediately,
even though he seems to direct the best ones. That's again you want a rapid decline in quality and then you fire martin campbell immediately even though he seems to direct the best ones that's what you want i don't i don't
understand what they do but you've got to remember also the bond franchise lies with the broccoli
family and this and they're human broccoli hybrids correct and they do they do they do a pretty good
job but um they're very particular about who they get and how they do it and controlling the brand, which I understand.
I mean, it's a family legacy.
But hey.
Who knows, Mason?
I want to lie the Suave Bond.
I know people are saying Tom Hiddleston.
I don't really particularly want Tom Hiddleston.
He's too oily.
He's pretty bloody oily, mate.
You know what?
He's not.
He doesn't always have the Loki hair.
No. But I always picture him with the Loki hair. And he's know what? He's not... He doesn't always have the Loki hair. No.
But I always picture him
with the Loki hair
and he's very oily.
That's right.
Yeah.
So you know how you kind of...
Ian Taylor Swift broke up.
I don't know if you know that.
I didn't even know
they were going out.
Or maybe I did.
I don't know.
It's not important.
Doesn't that enter
into your mind
while you dream?
I'm probably...
That's how gossip
gets in your head now.
My neighbour yelled it to me
once actually, I remember.
Oh yeah?
When I was checking the news.
What kind of face did he make?
It wasn't a good one.
Yeah.
Okay, Mason.
You saw the Underworld Blood Wars trailer?
Yes, or did I?
How about this?
How about this?
Yeah.
I'll tell you some things that happened in the trailer,
and you tell me whether I saw it or I'm just making them up.
Okay, you ready?
Oh, God, all right.
Okay, here we go.
Did you just watch this?
Who knows if I did? Okay, because I watched this you ready? Oh, God, all right. Okay, here we go. Did you just watch this? Who knows if I did?
Okay, because I watched this like five days ago.
Okay, all right.
It's largely blue and grey.
There's a lot of...
It's a given.
There's a lot of like blue stone walls.
Yes.
And it could be inside a well of some sort.
Kate Beckinsale's wearing a black leather catsuit.
Yep.
There's a shirtless wolfman, and he's got lots of...
Like, he's a man, but he's shirtless,
and he's wearing, like, a fur vest.
He's got facial hair, and he goes like,
like that.
Right, right.
There's wolfmen.
There's lycans and vampires charging at each other.
Okay, yep.
Kate Beckinsale machine guns through a wall or a floor
and falls through it.
Right, good, yep.
Scott Speedman's in it.
Is he?
Did I watch the trailer?
Or did I just remember previous movies?
You know what?
The trailer, whether or not you watched it or not,
it took me like 30 seconds to realise
that they were showing footage from the old ones.
See?
If you've seen it, I don't know.
Because I'm like, when is this?
I don't hate them either.
I'm just like, where are we at with this?
Yeah, right.
Did you watch it?
Yes, I did.
But mate, what if it was new footage?
What was old footage?
I genuinely don't know.
I think the first 30 to 40 seconds was old footage.
It was just like, do you remember the Lycan War?
Yeah, sort of, I guess.
I like the premise.
I like the idea that they're different.
I don't like the premise.
But I like the way that there's strength differently.
Like the vampires are faster, not as strong, but they're genuinely smarter.
Yeah, but they're still wildly superhumanly strong.
Yes.
And they've got technology and crazy cool guns.
And the werewolves don't.
They've got nothing.
They're more kind of vagabonds.
Yeah.
But then it's kind of this arms race.
One's shooting bullets that fire light
and the other one's shooting silver bullets
that melt, that have liquid whatever.
Well, I hate the premise
and I hate everything about it.
Fair enough.
But I'm just saying
there's something good
that could be done with it
and they're all...
Putting them into the bin.
Yeah, they're all just kind of okay, I guess.
Have you seen all of them?
Who knows?
Have I?
I don't know.
I've seen the first one.
I don't know if I've seen two.
I've definitely seen the prequel.
I've seen the first one.
With Hirona Mitra in place of...
No, that's three.
Oh, that's three.
That's a prequel.
Okay.
And where they get back the dude who interviewed Nixon in the Nixon movie. Scott Speedman. Yeah, Scott Speed from uh who interviewed nixon in the nixon movie
scott speedman yes that's me but it's a it is set in the past and then four is the one where
she finds out she has a kid oh or something and vampires have kids in this universe probably i
guess if she had a kid she had one with scott speedman who was also a half vampire half werewolf
blue man yeah and bill nighy got his... Not Bill Nighy.
Yeah, it is Bill Nighy.
Yeah.
I think it's Bill Nighy.
Bill Nighy got his face cut off or something.
Huh.
I don't remember.
Mason, let's do another thing.
Okay.
James Cameron says Avatar 2 will be about family.
All right.
And it will follow...
Jane Diesel.
Correct.
And The Rock.
Michelle Rodriguez's.
Yep.
Who else?
I was going to say Paul Walker.
He's dead, isn't he?
Anyway, it'll follow Jake and Natiri and their children.
Huh.
So it's going to be a sprawling family saga spanning many movies.
Huh.
So all that machinery works then.
Apparently so.
In his new avatar body.
In his weird clone body.
Yeah.
There you go.
He also said, Cameron, they haven't moved the date.
Because remember, this was going to go up against one of the Star Wars movies.
I don't remember that, but yes.
And be killed horribly.
But he said, if we have to move the date, we will.
Right.
You probably should move the date, mate.
Move the date.
Nobody cares about Avatar.
Nobody's cared for like 15 years.
Wait, 2009. 2009, yeah. Seven years. for like 15 years. Wait, 2009.
2009, yeah.
Seven years.
Feels like 15.
Don't get me wrong.
Cameron genuinely makes good films.
Avatar's not for me,
but I like pretty much everything else that he's done.
Let's find out whether he's gone insane
when this first one comes out.
Maybe he'll prove us wrong.
I want him to.
And you know what?
He's the kind of guy that could.
Every movie of his that kind of comes out, people doubt.
He's kind of battling against the odds when he's making these million dollar movies.
Yeah, he's such a battling billionaire, isn't he?
He's just a young, plucky billionaire with his own submarine.
Just trying to make his way in this harsh, unforgiving world, isn't he?
You know?
God, I'm really in his corner.
I'm glad you are.
But if you look at like, people thought Titanic was going to be the next Waterworld.
That's true.
And he got fired off one of the Piranha movies.
You know what I mean?
And he stepped into, he made Aliens after Alien.
Like, that's a tough bloody gig.
So, you know, he's done some pretty spectacular stuff.
But he also liked Terminator Genisys.
Yes, he did.
But I still maintain that he saw the first 15 minutes and then went,
Me too.
This looks good.
I'm on board.
Yeah. All right. still maintain that he saw the first 15 minutes and then went me too this looks good yeah i'm on board yeah yeah all right uh so rehearsals have started for avengers infinity war which begins filming it later this year the uh russo brothers released a image and it had josh brolin or james
brolin picture me brolin um mocap it's probably both brolins right i guess it just stacked on top
of each other it's really big I guess so
I thought
my understanding was
they were going to do a
an actual physical suit
but it looks like
he was in a mocap
thing
so I guess they're not
they're not doing that anymore
maybe they're going to do partial
because now
you know how you see
anytime you see like a civil war
behind the scenes
it's Robert Downey Jr.
wearing half the Iron Man suit
and then just
red track pants with the mocap lines that's right it's probably that but Jr. wearing half the Iron Man suit and then just red track pants with the mo-cap lines there.
That's right.
It's probably that.
But this was full mo-cap.
Because in the first Avengers, when you see him,
the actor who played him, that was a little bit of CGI,
but that was mostly practical.
And then when he turned up in Guardians,
when he was like that weird purple Sultana man sitting in a chair.
That was such an underwhelming reveal.
You're right, exactly.
Yeah, that's a great movie, but it was just kind of like,
and here's Thanos.
I forget he's in it most of the time.
Yeah, yeah.
But great, it's underway.
Avengers movies, they're pretty good generally, I guess.
They're pretty good generally, aren't they?
They're pretty good.
I give them a solid, on average, I give them a solid seven.
Yeah, and it's the Russo brothers, so from that perspective, They're pretty good. I give them a solid, on average, I give them a solid seven. Yeah. And it's the Russo brothers.
Yeah, cool.
So from that perspective,
that looks really good.
Hey, here's some Marvel news.
I'm excited.
I don't know if you have it written there,
but since we're speaking about Marvel,
did you see the
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Ghost Rider found footage?
I did not.
Okay.
I was in talks to do an ad for them.
Oh, yes.
Oh, that's right.
It didn't end up happening. Oh, so we can rubbish this? Yeah, I guess. Oh, yes. Oh, that's right. It didn't end up happening.
Oh, so we can rubbish this?
Yeah, I guess.
Okay, good.
I didn't see it.
What did it look like?
Well, see, the thing is, is it's...
The thing was, I was never going to say, I love this show.
I was just going to be like...
You should check it out.
It definitely comes out this date.
Yeah, uh-huh.
But basically, because the premise is...
A lot of people have said they love it.
Like, it got a lot better.
Anyway, sorry, go on.
Yeah, no, that's fine.
Because people tweeted at me and it's on YouTube
and it's like Ghost Rider found footage.
And I'm like, oh, you know, because sort of found footage
is sort of the domain of horror movies.
Like, you know, you're Blair Witch and you're Paranormal Activity
and what have you.
And I'm like, oh, this is a fun viral thing.
Like Ghost Rider is kind of horror.
It'll be kind of fun.
It just looks like they got the intern to do it. This is a fun viral thing. Like, Ghost Rider's kind of horror. Yeah. It'll be kind of fun. Yeah.
It just looks like they got the intern to do it.
Like, it's just, there's a little bit of fire.
Is it a car?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But basically, it's a bit of fire in the foreground.
Yeah.
And then you see a car, just a regular black car, just drive off.
And somebody's like, it's him.
That's it.
That's the whole thing.
You can't see his head?
Don't see anything. That's it. That's the whole thing. You can't see his head? Don't see anything.
That's not very good. It genuinely feels like
they just had the car
on the set.
They had a
like a burning trash can
and they went
just do that.
Yeah.
It'll be fine.
Can we light this trash can on fire?
It's no good.
Yeah, definitely.
I wanted
I was like maybe this
this will be what'll turn me around
and I'll be back on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Would you like to have seen him
go past the camera
and you see the burning skull
in the car?
Anything.
Yeah, fair enough. Well maybe I'm glad the car? Anything. Yeah, fair enough.
Well, maybe, I'm glad you turned around, Mason.
Yeah, me too.
Tune in, I want to say Monday.
I don't know.
Probably Monday.
15th.
7 p.m., 8 p.m. Central.
Probably.
Probably that.
Yeah.
There you go.
There's some free promotion.
Yeah, good stuff.
Good work, everybody.
What may or may not be the right day or time.
The Shocker.
You see those images?
I've seen them.
What'd you think? Yes. Oh, you mean for Spider-Man. Okay, right. That's the international symbol or time. The Shocker. Did you see those images? I've seen them. What'd you think?
Yes.
Oh, you mean for Spider-Man.
Okay, right.
That's the international symbol, yes.
Yeah.
You saw that.
A lot of people are saying,
how do his electric powers work, Mason?
He doesn't have electric powers.
They're not electric.
The Shocker's vibration-powered or something.
He'll shoot a concussive blast or something.
He was always my favorite villain to beat up in those Spider-Man games on PlayStation 2.
Why is that?
Because he's the biggest prick.
He was always like, I hate you, Spider-Man.
And I was like, you're a jerk, mate.
Wow.
That's what I was like.
Wow.
Yeah.
God, that takes me back.
What a great memory to share with you.
Oh, thank you.
What do you think?
Looks pretty good.
He's kind of got like a hobo kind of vibe to him.
Well, that's kind of how they do these things.
If you look at like Batroc the Leaper,
they'll take the dumbest costume of all time
and then be like,
that's not so bad, I guess.
Did you want it more quilty?
Was it not quilty enough for you?
Now that I think about it,
no, he seems like,
because the shocker, i don't know he's
the the comic book version yeah thank you you've done that you've been you've done the international
symbol for the shocker um he doesn't really need all the quilting isn't it to protect him from the
concussive but it's always facing this way it's always facing surely there's some reverberation
i guess that's true what if somebody what if if it bounces off a wall and hits him?
Oh yeah, that would be pretty dangerous.
Or a frying pan.
Yep, yep.
So he needs to be ready for that.
One of those parabolic mirrors in like a shopping mall,
so he can see around the corner.
What do you think of those?
Watch out for thugs in a shopping mall.
Do you think those have ever saved anybody?
No.
Yeah, probably not.
Great.
Yeah, great.
Spider-Man's happening, isn't it?
Yep.
Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill have hinted at a panel of some description.
Short for description.
Okay, I was just going to say.
I'm bringing it back.
I was going to ask for clarification.
Clarification.
I was going to ask for some clarification there.
They've hinted towards Hush and Death in the Family being done as animated story arc film properties.
Okay.
So we just had the killing joke.
Have you got around to it yet?
Nope.
Fair enough.
And I know you like the ones that are written specifically for...
I don't like the adaptations.
See, I like the adaptations.
I think I'm coasting on Red Hood, though.
Yeah, right?
Because I enjoyed Red Hood so much.
Because you mention that one every time.
And then I say, name another one.
And you're like...
I like... You know what? I also... Here so much. Because you mention that one every time. And then I say, name another one. And you're like. I like, you know what?
I also.
Here it comes.
I enjoy The Dark Knight.
Yes.
Returns.
I like both parts.
And I like Batman Begins.
Not Begins.
Year one.
Even though you don't like it.
Don't like it.
But I remember enjoying it.
But that was from like 2012, I want to say.
Ah, ancient history.
Yeah, so.
God, do you also enjoy The Invention of the Wheel? Is that? It's good, isn't it? It's very convenient now, isn't it say. Ah, ancient history. Yeah, so. God, do you also enjoy the invention of the wheel?
Is that?
It's good, isn't it?
It's very convenient now, isn't it?
It's done a lot of good work.
You enjoy the bloody polio vaccine?
Yeah, man, that's, again,
that's something that I.
It's great, you're right, it is great, yeah.
We've benefited greatly from it, actually.
Definitely, yeah.
It's killed so few people I know
to its detriment, in a way.
Wow. Some people that I'd, Facebook, basically. few people I know to its detriment in a way. Wow.
Some people that I'd Facebook based it.
Yeah, I know.
They did too many crunches or something.
That's why you hate them.
That's correct.
Yeah, but you haven't read Death in the Family, have you?
Because you haven't read much of the new 52 Batman arc.
Wait, is there a new Death in the Family arc?
I might be thinking of the newer one where the Joker...
Hang on, let me find this out.
I think they're talking about adapting
the Death in a Family
from way back in the day. They did it in Red Hood,
though. Yeah, but there's a lot
of crossover here. That's true, there is a lot of crossover.
All the animated movies are basically
set in different universes. Sorry, it's called Joker
Death of the Family. I apologise.
I think that's what it actually is, but
I may or may not be wrong. And what is that about? Well, the Joker basically kidnaps a whole lot of all the Batman the family. I apologize. I think that's what it actually is, but I may or may not be wrong. And what is that about?
Well, the Joker basically
kidnaps a whole lot of
all of Batman's family.
Okay.
And is like...
Alfred?
Alfred included.
Commissioner Gordon?
No.
The police chief from the 1960s series.
What was his name?
Pat Goodman?
I don't know.
No, that sounds about right.
Yeah, and because the Joker,
it's basically the Joker's last shot at Batman in the New 52.
What's the aunt's name?
It's where he's got his face cut off.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know, Mildred?
Aunt Harriet.
Yeah.
And, you know, the one where Joker's got his face cut off.
You would have seen that.
Yeah, I've seen that one, yeah.
And because he thinks that Batman's strong,
Batman's always been better without his family
because it means that he doesn't rely on other people.
Yeah, okay, sure.
He's the only man and whatever.
And who needs family when you can cut your own face off?
That's what my dad says.
You're into it?
Hush?
You fight Superman.
You know what?
I would be into it if only to see how they translate the Jim Lee art into animation.
Probably not that good.
That's pretty good art.
I think they're going to do like that kind of...
Yeah, the killing joke was a bit spotty.
Yeah.
Some of it looked really great, but it was a bit inconsistent.
Yeah, I mean, Jim Lee's art, has it ever translated?
Can you think of an animated adaptation of that?
No.
No.
Because remember when they did a Wildcats adaptation back in the day
and it's just sort of that generic, it'd be hard to capture him.
Yeah, yeah.
That was what was great about the animated Batman series,
the animated Batman series.
Very simplistic, but it allows for a lot of fluidity and movement
and you fill in the gaps kind of thing.
I don't know.
Because Hush is kind of, it's an intriguing storyline that doesn't have, for me, does not have a good payoff.
Because the villain is.
The villain is the only new character introduced in the series.
That's right.
You think it's going to be somebody good.
Aunt Harriet.
It's Aunt Harriet.
Yeah, yeah.
Chief O'Hara is the character's name.
I've remembered.
That's right.
You're right.
Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, great.
I mean, good or bad.
It'll be one of those.
Or somewhere in the middle.
Might be that one.
All right, then.
Are you in a rebirth?
What's going on there?
I've been reading, yeah.
I've been reading Superman, Batman,
and I'm going to start on some other stuff soon.
Superman's got a kid now?
How's the kid working out?
You know what?
It's pretty good.
I didn't like any of...
Not that I didn't like it.
None of the new 52 Superman really did it for me
okay here's a question for you
yeah
do you think that this
son of Superman
does he feel like a character
that's going to exist
for a long time
or does he feel like
a character they're going to erase
next time they reboot the universe
he feels real
okay
I think he works really well
okay that's positive
and there's some kind of
like his power levels kind of fluctuate because he's half-human.
Yep.
And the Eradicator shows up and is all like,
this is a pure Kryptonian or whatever.
How does the Eradicator look these days?
Is he the hooded one?
The robot one?
Nah, man, he's the 90s one.
Really?
With big sunglasses and all.
No.
It's not the same.
I don't think it's the same Eradicator, but it's like the same model, I think.
Okay.
I'd have to look into it.
It's glasses Eradicator.
It's not robot Eradicator. Okay. Which do you prefer you prefer robot eradicator you don't know nothing i know um okay
rebirth yeah here's a question have they addressed the fact that they have they addressed the watchman
aspects of it recently not outright okay believe yeah all right so that's still kind of dancing
around it okay sure all right i don't know i just whenever they relaunch all these books yeah there's too much yeah i can't read 40 fucking dc titles yeah do you know
what i mean it's just not happening but it's sort of they're now geared towards people who who want
to do that who are like all right i've this is my thing and i'm committed to four and they know that
yeah so they're like well we'll do it so but they should
there should be there should be stuff for casual readers yeah and i think that's where like the
batman superman stuff they generally kind of stick stick yeah i think that's probably why you're on
it yeah that's that's because i like from years and years and years they've always said okay
in this undefined future superman will leave Earth and Superman 2, his son, will take over.
Yeah.
And they've never actually gotten there.
Right, right.
So this feels like positive change in that they're like,
okay, well, we'll let this universe move forward slowly.
So that's good.
And his name, what's his son's name?
John.
Yeah, it's John.
Oh, it's his father's name?
Yeah, John, Jonathan, yeah.
Good stuff.
Yeah, it's good.
I'm enjoying it.
Live by Night, the Ben Affleck gangster movie. Oh, yeah. Good stuff. It's good. I'm enjoying it. Live by Night, the Ben Affleck gangster movie.
Oh, yes.
And the only reason I bring it up is because he is doing the next Batman movie, obviously,
and he's Batman.
He's the best part.
He's portraying Batman.
He's not actually Batman.
Thank you.
Movies are confusing because they turn different characters, different people.
I know, right?
Yeah.
You get it, yeah.
But he looked like Batman in that last one.
He had the thing.
He had the costume on.
And the gadgets.
He had the voice.
He did have the voice.
He's a bit of Batman.
Batman.
He's a bit of Batman.
Yeah, that was modulated.
Everett.
Everett Wizard.
Wizard of Everett.
Anyway, in this one, Ben Affleck's being a gangster, but pretend.
In the 30s.
I was going to say, he's learned a lot of money
why has he turned
to a life of crime
and what did you think of it
it looked pretty interesting
see I was kind of like
this feels
generic-y
gangster-y
I'm not a big
like 1930s
kind of gangster
guy
it's not really my
like you know
there was that
gangster squad
from last year
I didn't see
have you heard about the Hat Squad?
No.
There's a series, I think it's from the late 90s.
It's like a cop show called The Hat Squad.
Right.
And it's about these three brothers who were raised by like an old-timey detective
and they're in the modern era and they all wear hats.
They all wear like fedora-style hats.
Is it cute?
And they're called The Hat Squad.
How could it possibly be good?
I'm not saying it. I'm just trying to find somebody else who's seen it okay well bloody tweet at mason if you've seen the hat squad yeah and is it good yeah we know it's not but yeah
we'd love to convince me in 100 you've got 140 characters minus my name to convince me that it's
that it's good if you think it's if you think it's good. If you think it's good.
Yeah.
But yeah, I didn't think it was a particularly well-cut trailer.
It's fine.
He's on a pretty good run.
Even if it's bad, I don't think that's...
That doesn't really bode poorly for the Batman movie
because I think he's got talent.
And even great directors kind of miss every now and then.
Speaking of directors, interestingly, it said,
from the director of The Town and Argo.
Yeah.
That's you, Ben Affleck.
That's him.
It should say Ben Affleck.
It should.
Well, he probably didn't cut the trailer.
Yeah.
Or maybe he did, Mason.
I don't know.
It should say, from the director of Argo and The Town,
and then cut to a still of him, and then a flashing thing that says,
this guy.
It's this guy.
This guy. this man here
he's not really a gangster
no don't worry about it
he's just a guy pretending
to be a gangster
yeah
but yeah fine
whatever
and this is leading
into all the DC news
for this week Mason
oh
so first of all
Mel Gibson came out
and rubbished
Batman Superman
I can read this verbatim
great
who cares
first of all
who cares what you think Mel
is this funny yeah okay cool but I mean first of all, who cares what you think, Mel? Is this funny?
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
But I mean, first of all, it's been out for...
March.
How long has it been out?
Yeah.
March.
March of this year.
Well done jumping on the bandwagon, Mel Gibson.
Maybe he just got it.
He just saw it.
Yeah.
You know what?
He probably saw like his kids were watching it or something like that.
Right, right.
And he walked past.
Right.
He's like, what's this rubbish?
I'm drunk.
What is this?
Yeah.
If you're spending outrageous amounts of money,
180 million or more.
180 million.
180.
Well, he's Australian, isn't he?
Actually, he's not Australian.
We don't want him.
I don't know how you make it back after the tax man gets you
and after you give half of it to the exhibitors.
Then he said, what did they spend on Batman v Superman
that they're admitting to?
And it's a piece of shit.
It's pretty good.
Brutal.
Yeah.
Mel Gibson says it like it is, even if what he says is not always accurate.
No.
But do you think he's wrong by saying why they're spending this much money on this movie
and it not being that good?
Absolutely.
He's right.
Yeah.
Well, that's the first time anybody's ever said that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But also, you've got to look at this a movie isn't 180 million dollars and then
it's and then it's done like i mean and you get the return from the box office there's obviously
dvd and digital downloads and merchandising and toys for kids and whatever you know what i mean
like toys for adults toys for adults and you're building the universe so i i think the return
isn't just in the movie itself.
Yeah, it should have done a lot better.
It should have cracked a billion, and it didn't.
So he's right.
Isn't that astounding to say?
It should have cracked a billion dollars.
Yeah, it should have, though.
I mean, and especially when you look at the opening weekend.
If that had been good word of mouth, it would have cracked a million.
I mean, if Civil War can.
That's true.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Thanks, Mel Gibson. Anyway, you tell it like it is, Mel Gibson, about movies and... million i mean if civil war can that's true you know what i mean and yeah anyway thanks mel
anyway you tell it like it is mel gibson about movies and go on you know what no i don't want to
i was thinking about it then i decided not to it's probably for the best yeah
put it into the clip show yeah that's right i don't know the thing about the jews no
so jeff johns has also come out and said you know he's in charge of all things DC movies now
well we'll see won't we
he's there Kevin Feige
but we hasn't really
had an opportunity
to kind of
we haven't seen
what he's done yet
because they only
kind of promoted him
after Batman Superman
didn't do as well
as they would have liked
and they were like
look we know your role
is overseer
but we want you
to actually do it now
like for real
but he said
mistakenly in the past
I think the studio
has said DC films are dark and gritty and that's what makes them different actually do it now like for real uh but he said mistakenly in the past i think the studio was said
uh dc films are dark and uh gritty and that's what makes them different that couldn't be more wrong
uh it's a hopeful and optimistic view of life even batman has a glimmer of that in him if he
didn't think he'd make tomorrow better he'd stop do you think he would stop no i think he'd keep
going yeah is he's crazy yeah what do you think about that though so No, I think he'd keep going. Yeah. Is he crazy? Yeah.
What do you think about that, though?
That's very lofty, I feel.
What, to be like?
Just the whole thing he said.
To be like, there's a glimmer of hope in these DC movies.
Do you feel the hope?
I think he should have just said,
we're going to make better movies from now on.
We hope.
I know what I'm doing.
Do I?
Maybe I don't.
Yeah, we'll find out.
I mean, I'm glad someone's running it.
Yeah.
And he seems like a good choice.
It's interesting that he said that the studio in the past have said,
oh, dark and gritty is what make these films different.
And they always kind of denied that.
But that is clearly what they were doing.
They were like, people like Nolan and people didn't like Green Lantern.
So let's just try and do that. But that's because people like people being thrown off fire escapes
and breaking their legs.
They like that.
That's true.
Dark and gritty or hilarious, doesn't matter.
And they dislike people being punched into space with big green fists.
In an alley.
They're like, we didn't like that because did the guy land or what?
He didn't land, Mason.
He just flew into space.
He flew into space.
That happened in Green Lantern.
Yeah, yeah.
So, again, this doesn't mean anything to me until something comes out.
Right.
So we'll see, won't we?
Yeah, a couple of years.
I hope it's good.
Next year, we'll get Wonder Woman, then we'll get Justice League,
and then we'll know, Mason.
Yeah.
Billy Crudup has been cast as Barry Allen's father in the Flash movie.
That's right.
I think that's great casting yeah john wesley ship plays
him in the tv show correct which i think is also great dawson's dad dawson's dad you know what
dc have made their mistakes in the past but they've never missed a trick on casting barry
allen's dad in a thing correct Correct. You're absolutely right.
Colin's knocked it out of the park every time.
Mamma mia.
Yeah, so that's pretty great.
Billy Crudup has been in a comic book movie before.
Watchmen.
He was Watchmen.
He was Watchmen.
I mean, he wasn't the abs, obviously.
No.
He wasn't the abs or the dong.
That was somebody else who died.
I think the dong was him.
Okay, great.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
The guy died, didn't he?
Yeah.
The body double for Dr. Manhattan.
That sucks. But yeah, great. Oh, yeah, that's right. The guy died, didn't he? The body double for Dr. Manhattan. That sucks.
But, yeah, great.
Good casting.
And the other huge bit of casting news this week, Mason.
Oh, yeah.
Joe Manganiello, that's how you pronounce it, Mason.
He is Deathstroke.
I've been saying Manganiello.
Well, you're an idiot.
And not just for this reason.
For other reasons, which I could name, but I won't.
Because I'm going to move it along.
No, no, do it for the clip show.
Here we go.
Fine.
You do too many crunches on Facebook, if I'm honest with you.
Yeah, thank you.
Every day, do you have to?
Yeah.
It's for every one of our returned soldiers.
I do a crunch or something.
Okay, that's fine then.
Yeah.
I respect you in that sense.
But yeah, so he was a fan choice for ages.
Okay, sure.
Yeah.
And he's been kind of in and out of this DC universe.
He was nearly Superman or he was up very, very close.
He was close to Batman apparently.
And now he's Deathstroke, which is kind of like the bad Batman.
And he was Flash Thompson in Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 1.
He was.
Right?
And what's his name?
They've done it.
They've got the Raimi trilogy of stealing actors
because they also got Commissioner Gordon.
J.K. Simmons.
J.K. Simmons.
They got Joe Manganiello and they got Froghead.
Tobey Maguire.
No, not Tobey Maguire.
The Goblin Boy.
Goblin Man.
William bloody...
Willem Dafoe.
Willem Dafoe.
He's an Aquaman.
Oh.
So there they go.
They got the Raimi trifecta.
As like a blowfish?
I assume so. Just the head. Sort of crab man. Just a got the Raimi trifecta. As like a blowfish? I assume so.
Some sort of crab man?
Just a green screen suit from the neck down.
So good on him, mate.
I think that's great casting.
Willem Dafoe would be one of those spiny fishes.
Yeah, he would, wouldn't he?
Like a Mexican fighting fish.
Yeah, he would.
Yeah.
I like that guy a lot.
He's good in most of the movies he's in.
I think that's all the news mason
joe manganello how what's he been in since because i don't know of him anything magic mike
okay probably true blood i don't know okay he isn't true but okay because the only thing i
know him from is flash thompson and uh and he doesn't he doesn't look very death stroking in
that so clearly it's been... That's been...
Have you seen him recently?
Well, see, I have now.
He's enormous.
He's a bus.
Yeah, I know.
But he's also got that kind of...
He's got that gruff exterior.
He's old enough.
He's like 38 or whatever.
He doesn't look like a 25-year-old high school student anymore.
No, he doesn't.
He looks like a grown, stubbly man, is what I'm saying.
Correct, correct, correct.
And I'm just wondering what the transition was there.
Right, right.
Just a lot of crunches, mate.
Just living hard.
Living hard, living life, mate. Doing crunches. Just living hard. Living hard, living life.
Doing crunches. There we go.
Now, Mason, we've got two sponsors this week.
I know you were against it,
but I said more money and you said,
all right then.
Okay.
Every now and then we...
Finally, I can get those braces.
I mean, I don't need braces.
Suspenders or like teeth braces?
No, for my teeth.
I'm going to need two sets of braces.
One to really mess up my teeth.
Yeah.
And then another set to put them back in place.
That's what we do with podcast money.
Braces.
Just throw it away.
Throw it into extreme dental care.
Mason, we've got a topic for this week.
Oh, yeah.
I've changed it to last minute.
Great.
I want to do, just thinking about Ben Affleck,
I want to do who has the widest head and face in Hollywood.
Willem Dafoe.
What about John Travolta?
Oh, that's pretty wide.
Ron Perlman.
More long than wide.
Yeah, he's long and more long than wide.
Ray Liotta.
Oh, that's such a wide head.
Javier Bardem.
So wide.
What's that movie and there's a woman?
I think it might be...
Is it...
Brazil.
It's Brazil.
There's a woman and she's got all her head's been stretched out.
Yes, that's right.
Whitest head in Hollywood?
Yeah.
Okay, the woman from Brazil.
I guess we can do another topic now that we've covered that.
Now we've exhausted that.
Ben Affleck does have a big head, doesn't he?
I mean, he's a big bloke, but he's got a big bloody head on him.
I think a lot of people in Hollywood have big heads.
Because they've got small bodies and big heads?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, fair enough.
I think he is big.
I think he's like 6'4 or something.
Anyway.
Mason, let's talk guilty pleasures.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
We can do that.
I'm not talking your favorite ice cream, Mason.
Put it down.
Turn it upside down.
In my lap.
Yes.
Don't get ice cream in my lap.
Oh, all right.
You can't have it.
So, we thought we'd talk this week about guilty pleasure movies and TV shows.
Things that we love that might not necessarily be good.
And I want to preface this by saying I don't actually believe in guilty pleasures.
Episode over.
Here we go.
They're like ghost maces.
They don't exist.
No, I mean in the sense, like what you like, man.
If you like a thing, you don't have to feel guilty about it.
Unless it's like a weird sex thing that hurts somebody.
Didn't need to say that.
Don't know why I said it.
We'll edit it out.
We're going to leave it in.
But do you know what I mean?
I know what you mean.
Do you feel that way?
No, I think we're absolutely right.
And I think, again, we've expressed strong opinions on various things
over the course of these, you know.
We'll rubbish a movie.
But you know what? rubbish a movie but you know
what if if you like it again it's fine you're wrong but that's cool and we say that as a bit
but at the same time my opinion of a movie shouldn't affect what you think about it if you
love it who cares it's very strange when people get upset yeah you if you don't like a thing
or if you do like it or if you do like a thing yeah more than that if you like yeah if you're like i really like this like here's i've tried to over
the last few years to be less about well this is the reason you're wrong about liking that totally
great enjoy it be like this is the reason i didn't enjoy it yeah but you can't put that on somebody
else obviously here's something that i want and i said i was going to watch it a couple of weeks
ago and i finally got to it and i i enjoyed it actually quite a lot. The reviews haven't been great.
I finally watched Hardcore Henry.
Oh, you did?
Yeah.
And you know what?
It's fun.
It's a lot of fun.
At no point was I like, oh, this is wearing kind of thin.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, here's the thing about it.
I understand why people are like, this is no good,
because there's nothing to it.
Like, plot-wise, it's a guy.
He wakes up uh and he gets
some cyborg parts put on yeah and then basically the rest of them the rest of the movie is like
90 minutes of him either running away from dudes or running at dudes it's basically a benny hill
sketch right except with guns instead of boobs for 90 minutes are there any boobs yes there are
now that i think about it.
Good stuff.
It's fun
and the gimmick didn't wear out
and the action's good.
Do you think that's partly
because they went 90 minutes
as opposed to being like,
let's make this three hours long?
Maybe it is more than that.
Yeah?
I'll have a look.
I'll check right now.
It's fine.
But it's fun.
Everybody,
there's some hamming it up,
which I really enjoyed.
Absolutely.
Sharlto Copley's in it.
Well, that's his, yeah. Yeah. He loves ato Copley's in it. Well, that's his...
Yeah.
He loves a bit of ham, that's right.
Yeah, that's right.
He's like, I know what I am.
Yeah.
I'm a guy with a funny accent, and I'm just going to ham it up.
And there's like a kind of a cartoony villain.
The effects are mostly pretty good.
I had a bloody good time with it, if I'm honest with you.
Good.
That's great.
I do have it, a digital copy.
So I do need to actually get into that. There's a minigun in it which you know i enjoy how was
the minigun it's pretty good again nobody nobody's really again i'm i'm waiting for
a movie where somebody's really riddled with bullets with a minigun yeah yeah and we couldn't
there's some cars there's some vans and cars that are riddled with bullets it's pretty good
some of the cgr is a little bit shaky.
Sure.
But you've got to expect that from the perspective it's shot in.
Yes.
There'd be a lot of, well, not a lot,
but there'd be some CGI elements,
stuff that you couldn't do in camera.
Yeah.
So I can understand why they kind of did that.
I've got one for you.
I actually just watched it today.
It's an hour and 36 minutes.
Okay, sure.
Yeah, that's about it.
Yeah, it's solid. Real good. I watched this today and It's an hour and 36 minutes. Okay, sure. Yeah, that's about... Yeah, it's a solid...
Real good.
I watched this today and I'd forgotten that I liked it.
I don't even remember if I liked it at the time.
That's a good sign.
But you like it now.
I do.
The Mask of Zorro.
Sure, okay.
The first Antonio Banderas one.
I think the second one's terrible.
I don't even know.
I don't think I've seen it.
But also, I realized watching it today, I fucking love Zorro, man.
Yeah.
That's great.
Don Diego de la Vega.
Is there another Zorro coming out?
Yeah, there's future Zorro coming at some point.
Fioro.
Fioro.
It's called like Zorro Reborn or something like that.
They should call it Zorro in the future.
Yeah, probably.
Then we'd know.
And they refer to him.
They're like, oh, no.
There's like a bad guy. And he's like, ha-ha, we're going to get away with this. And then somebody know. And they refer to him. They're like, oh, no. There's like a bad guy.
And he's like, ha-ha, we're going to get away with this.
And then somebody's like, sir, look out.
It's Zorro from the future.
Jetpack?
Yeah, probably, yeah.
And they're in the future.
I thought I would like it if he was the only one from the future.
No, no, it's set in the future.
And everybody believes it's the current day,
but they refer to him as Zorro from the future yeah anyway have you seen that movie um yes is it the one where he he does the
Zorro swipe across um what's her name Catherine Zeta-Jones and a close follow that's right that's
exactly that's the one yeah the sequel this was from 98 and the sequel was in like 2005 which
is like way too late Martin Campbell also directed also directed it yep uh antonio banderas is not a is not a latin man obviously but he plays the retired
or the old zorro he said antonio banderas sorry anthony anthony hopkins plays antonio banderas
is the most that is um he plays the retired zorro who If anyone's seen this, he kind of gets captured.
Count of Monte Cristo style, which is another great movie.
Anyway, it's for another day.
No, it's for now.
We'll get to it in a minute.
No, that's a good movie.
That's a legitimately good movie.
Is it?
The one with Guy Pearce?
Yes.
It's amazing.
Is it?
I've got another Guy Pearce one on the cards anyway.
Okay, great.
For later.
But I don't know.
Is it?
Hang on, let me think.
Let me think of a garbage Australian movie that Guy Pear guy pierces in probably a crime one yeah or he's in the good crime ones
he's in that one that's set at the horse races remember that one there's bart cummings in it
maybe probably i'll find out i'll think of it don't you worry anyway sorry yeah yeah it's very
swashbuckling yeah and it holds up in Is it the one they're trying to build a railroad?
No, it's the one where they're using a mine.
Okay.
They're building a mine in California.
That's what I meant.
Sure.
Maybe the second one's a railroad.
But both of, you know, young Zorro, new Zorro and old Zorro have their own personal vendettas.
Uh-huh.
And Anthony Hopkins...
That's what you identify with people with vendettas.
I absolutely do.
Yeah.
And Anthony Hopkins trains up bloody Antonio Banderas
in his little Zorro cave, and then they go and do them.
And also young Zorro teaches old Zorro about honour,
even though it was the other way around.
Do you remember the 90s TV show?
Zorro.
It was just called Zorro.
I remember really liking it.
It probably wasn't good.
Have you read the Django Zorro?
I've heard it's good.
Is it good?
Look, it's enjoyable. Is it good? Yeah.
Look, it's enjoyable.
Okay.
To some extent.
Sure.
To some extent, yeah.
It's a bit long.
Okay.
For a comic book? It's all right.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, get on the bloody Mask of Zorro or Legend of Zorro,
whichever the one from 98 is.
What else you got?
Hang on.
Can I just find this?
I'm going to find this Guy Pearce film set at the races, if I could.
If you'll bear with me.
Sure.
The Hard Word.
Remember that one?
Nah.
Rachel Griffiths is in it?
Nah.
That one?
I'm thinking of Getting Square.
You're thinking of Getting Square.
Exactly.
Joel Edgerton is in it?
Of course he is.
I didn't think he wouldn't be.
Let me guess
that's from like 2004
it's from 2002
okay
close enough
Vince Colosimo is in it
of course he is
three fraternal
the poor man's Eric Banner
three fraternal
hang on
three fraternal bank robbers
languishing in jail
discover a profitable
if not dodgy way
to spend their time
crime can most certainly pay
if you know what I mean
that's in quotes
I guess I know presumably that happens in the. I guess I know what they mean.
I guess. Is that your guilty pleasure?
When sex and greed
rear up between the good crims and the bad cops,
the consequences are both bizarre and fatal.
It's not very good. It's not my guilty
pleasure. I can't remember what happens in it.
What is your bloody? What's another
one you got? Oh, well, speaking
of Yzora, they get a
bad rap on this show because
i rubbish them all the time but i like yeah i really i'm speaking of old-timey stuff that
shouldn't be brought back um the shadow with alec oh you like that i can't i only remember the bit
where he fights the cgi knife that's all i remember yeah that's why i enjoy it because i only remember
the bit where he fights the cgi knife it's got a face that bites an angry face yeah i remember it's fun
it doesn't take itself that seriously prosthetics i think he did that because he turned down batman
yes he did yeah yeah and that did not do well i don't think it was a cgi knife though i don't
think you could blame it on the cgi knife no no i mean the cgi knife did rubbish the movie in the
press skin basing skin basing during that no i think it's a poor man's Kim Basinger.
Okay, because it's the Batman.
Let's look it up.
Because they were married, weren't they?
Yeah.
Oh, such a 90s marriage.
Stop.
Alec Baldwin.
Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger.
But no, it's great.
It's good fun.
When was the last time you've seen it?
Oh, when it was on home video, presumably.
The first time I saw that was in the late 90s
at one of my friend's house,
who I presume must have been rich
because he had a LaserDisc.
Wow, all right.
And he had the shadow on LaserDisc.
Maybe it was 97.
It's an all-star cast.
Go.
Bloody Ian McKellen's in it. Oh, really? Yeah, he's the guy who makes the atom bomb in it was 97. It's an all-star cast. Bloody Ian
McKellen's in it.
Oh really?
Yeah he's the guy
who makes the
atom bomb in it.
Okay.
Peter Boyle is in
it.
The award-winning
Peter Boyle.
He's the granddad
in Everybody Loves
Rain.
Oh I know him
yeah he's dead.
Tim Curry is in
it.
Tim Curry's in it?
Mm-hmm.
All the greats.
It's real good.
I'm looking at the
cast here.
Yeah this has got
some people in it.
It's solid good fun.
Again, should they keep making them?
No
Because nobody watches them
But if this cast
Were to get back together
Minus of course
Peter Boyle
Who's no longer with us
Who's dead
And could do some sort of
Live reading of The Shadow
In my house
I would appreciate that
If you wouldn't mind
Steve Heitner is in it
Who you may know as
Banyan from Seinfeld.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, the guy who played Tatsu's in it from Ninja Turtles.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Great.
So this is very mystical and oriental, it seems, as well, Mason.
Yes.
It seems a mixing of the arts. Well, that's where the shadow got his powers, from the Orient.
Did he?
Yeah.
Was it in, like, an amulet?
No, in his mind. In his mind. in like an amulet? No, in his mind.
They're in his mind.
He got an amulet
drilled into his mind.
No, he learned the skills
they're in his mind.
Because he could
and I remember
he could change his face
but it was a weird prosthetics
over it when he did it
because he could not be recognised
and he could manipulate
He can cloud men's minds.
That's his power.
Great, Mason.
Alright, well I'm never
going to watch that.
No, do.
Give it a whirl it's
fun big hats right so such big huge hats great yeah he's one that i i've talked about recently
did you know that the shadow has a double secret identity like batman's matches malone
no we'll see because the shadow's secret identity is is new york socialite playboy lamont cranston right but
he's actually not lamont cranston he's actually kent allard who's like a world war one aviator
right but he is taken on the idea because lamont cranston is always out of town and they look
mostly the same so kent allard took as lamont cool with this yeah yeah they met yes and he's
like whatever he might I mean, sure,
he might have been like,
I'm going to take on your identity and if you object,
I'll kill you
because I'm a weird
Orient-powered
martial arts
shadowy madman.
And I have one of the biggest faces
in Hollywood.
Yeah, right?
Now he does.
Triple whammy.
He used to be quite narrow.
He was, yeah.
Young Alec Baldwin
was quite narrow.
He still looks good.
Yeah, so Kent Allard
takes on the mantle of lamont
cranston and then he becomes the shadow well that is double secret identity that is complex isn't
it though yeah and unnecessary they didn't even put that plot that plot is not in the movie but
it is in the novelization who is he in the movie is he lamont cranston lamont cranston okay so they
just went let's just do him br Wayne. Yeah, exactly. Okay.
Because Alec Baldwin was like, I will do one secret identity like Batman,
but I will not do a second one.
Well, Bruce Wayne in a way has double secret identities.
Because he's real Bruce Wayne.
And he's socialite Bruce Wayne.
So, yeah, yeah.
But he hasn't threatened a man out of town and stolen his identity.
That's true.
Maybe he has.
Maybe Max Malone lives. Yeah, you're right. Maybe he has. Maybe Max Malone lives.
Yeah, you're right.
Maybe he lives on the other side of America because he's afraid that Bruce Wayne will
beat him up.
The Replacements is a late 90s Keanu Reeves movie.
Is it a football movie?
It's a football movie.
I like football movies despite knowing nothing about football.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah.
There's a Marky Mark one where he gets drafted in the NFL as a rookie.
There's a bunch of them I like, and I don't know why.
Do you like that movie that has the guy from Lord of the Rings in it?
Lord of the Rings?
No.
Oh, Rudy.
Rudy.
I haven't seen it.
I know that's a good one, though.
People like Rudy.
I had to see it in school, so it's got the stigma of it's a movie.
I had to see it in school, so I got the stigma of it's a movie I had to see it in school so I hate it
did you have to learn about it?
no I think it might have been
it might have even just been
a rainy day
a teacher rolled in that
rattly TV
on that weird stand
with the VCR
and you go
if this is a TV show
this will be okay
but if it's a movie
there's not going to be
enough time
so we'll never see
the end of this
that's exactly right
they once did that to us with a Tales from the Crypt movie but if it's a movie, there's not going to be enough time. Yeah. So we'll never see the end of this. That's exactly right. Yeah.
They once did that to us with a Tales from the Crypt movie.
Which one?
It's the one where they're all trapped in like a...
One person has inherited these ghost hunting powers.
Right.
And they're all trapped in like a school or something.
Okay.
And it starts with a woman like naked having a bar.
And we went to an all boys school.
Yeah, exactly that.
And they stopped it and they're like,
you all bloody settle down and we're not watching this.
And I'm like, we're never going to get to the end of this.
No.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't know what you're doing.
We've seen the best bit.
They did that to me with Airborne.
What is Airborne?
It's the rollerblading movie.
Jack Black's in it.
What?
Seth Green's in it.
Is this a guilty pleasure?
You know what?
Yeah.
It's pretty fucking...
It's not good.
Okay.
The Replacements fight.
Yeah.
You got another one?
Replacements is great.
It's a bloody...
Tell me more about it.
They're a replacement NFL team because there's a strike
so Keanu Reeves
plays Falco
and he was a former
Falco from
Neverending Story
correct
yeah
god all we have
all we have is the
bloody janitor
and we have this
this guy who
is the biggest
this big fat guy
and he's not gonna be
any good
but he'll turn out
to be good
he'll be a good
blocker you know
and we have this this have this mystical flying dog monster.
That's all we have to make up this team.
We're such a...
We're such a...
They're up against it, aren't they?
We're such a motley crew, aren't we?
It's got a great cast.
Jon Favreau's in it.
Okay.
Is he the big fat guy?
No, he's a cop.
He's a riot cop or something.
A SWAT dude. Who's the real skinny guy? No, he's a cop. He's a riot cop or something. A SWAT dude.
Who's the real skinny guy in Notting Hill?
The British guy?
Colin Firth.
Yeah, sure.
No, he's the lizard.
He's the lizard in that Spider-Man movie.
Oh, yeah.
He's like a...
Rhys Iffens.
Yeah, he's like a soccer player.
Sorry, a football...
An English Premier League player.
So they've kind of got these specific skills.
And so, yeah, Falco's his former quarterback
who's kind of failed and he's known to choke.
And so they bring him back into the game and he kind of...
And Gene Hackman's the coach.
Ah, that makes sense.
It's bloody great.
Get into it, Mason.
The movie I'm thinking of is Tales from the Crypt of Demon Knight,
which features Billy Zane, Jada Pinkett Smith,
Thomas Hayden Church,
who is, of course, the Sandman and Ned from the TV series Ned and Stacey,
and the really drunk guy from Sideways.
Haven't seen it.
Oh, wow.
Oh, CCH Pounder's in it.
That means nothing to me.
Okay, here's the plot.
Here's the plot.
Woman takes a bath.
Nah, who cares?
Oh, it's not even interesting.
They're in a boarding house and there's a guy and he chases demons and...
Okay, sure.
I remember enjoying it a lot.
They're a hit and miss aren't they?
I think I went and I rented the video later and it was pretty good.
Did you ever see the storyteller, the Jim Henson storyteller?
No, I'm aware of it.
That is crazy good.
Okay.
I watched some of them recently.
They're not all amazing, but there's some really good practical effects.
Oh, it's a TV series? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Anyway, that's for another day. Is're not all amazing, but there's some really good practical effects. Oh, it's a TV series.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Anyway, that's for another day.
Is it all Jim Henson Creature Shop?
Yeah, pretty much.
Do they all look kind of muppety?
No, no, no.
Sorry, there's actually people in it as well.
Yeah, uh-huh.
Yeah, yeah.
But are all the monsters kind of muppety?
Sean Bean's in one of them.
Yeah, but in a good way.
You know who's in it?
Who's that?
William Hurt or the other one.
John Hurt.
Yeah, John Hurt.
John Hurt's the one from Brazil.
Yes. Uh-huh. No, no, no.. John Hurt's the one from Brazil. Yes.
No, 1984.
I mean, he's not actually from Brazil.
Isn't he?
He's talking about 1984.
He's British.
Is he in Brazil?
I don't think so, no.
Okay.
He's in 1984.
Oh, yeah, he used to, yeah.
That's why you're getting confused.
Now, this is a good movie, right?
But I only say it's a guilty pleasure
because I got sprung buying it
and I panicked in the early 2000s
when this came out.
The Iron Giant
is legitimately great.
That's not a guilty pleasure.
No, I know,
but the reason I bring it up
is because that's a legitimately
great animation.
Oh, is it?
I think it's from 99.
Whatever.
Anyway, I was buying it
the DVD
and I ran into a guy
I went to school with
and he was like,
oh, what are you buying
this bloody kids movie for?
And I'm like,
it's not for me. It's for my-huh i didn't have a niece then and i still
don't have a niece you begged all your siblings to be like give me a need to validate this story
so this guy keeps coming at me on my facebook page every time i post a crunches video he's like
what about that iron john yet to see your niece holding that copy of the Iron Giant on DVD.
So anyway, but that's a good movie.
But I felt at the time, now I wouldn't give a shit.
I'd be like, yeah, I like this.
Shut up.
Anyway, he's a nice guy anyway.
I don't know.
It's not important.
Now, is this a bad movie?
Tell me.
No.
But the Boondock Saints, where do you rank that?
That's not a good movie
boondock saints the two irish guys and billy connelly's in it yeah yeah and they just
you know that's that's a movie i feel that now yeah if you could not go back to that you would
cringe i feel you would cringe at that movie i've seen we saw the sequel not that long ago because
they released it maybe five years ago yeah bo. Boondock Saints 2 All Saints Day.
The Boondening.
The Boondening.
Yeah. Keep on Boondening.
Never stop.
Yeah.
Boondon.
You don't like it?
Keep on docking.
You don't like that movie?
I'm sure,
look,
I'm sure I loved it at the time
because
Guns spinning around.
People spinning around.
They got a gun in each hand.
Yeah, yeah.
They're John Woo-ing it.
That director, like, burnt every bridge after that.
Because he spent...
It took a lot to get this movie released and then...
Of course it would.
It's got Billy Connolly in it.
Yeah.
He's a guy who'll sue God.
That's true.
He will.
Yeah.
Did you say that one?
He'll say anything.
He will say anything.
He'll storm back and forth across the stage.
Yeah.
Just talking about it.
Tell a wacky anecdote.
Yeah.
But no, I remember it being a lot of fun.
But I guess it is a guilty pleasure if it's not good.
Yeah.
I don't remember the sequel being Crash.
You know what it does have?
It has a stereotype.
Well, maybe it doesn't.
Sure.
I was going to say it has Willem Dafoe as a stereotype-breaking gay man.
Right.
But maybe it doesn't.
Well, he plays a very aggressive, homophobic gay man.
Oh, is he homophobic?
No, but he openly has sex with men, but he makes fun of them.
Right, okay.
Yeah, at the same time.
So see, now I'm conflicted.
Well, Mason, I don't know what to tell you.
That's for you to decide.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We'll make it a bonus episode.
Great. Anyway, I remember liking it a bonus episode. Great.
Anyway, I remember liking it.
You got another one?
I'm trying to think of terrible movies from the 90s then that I enjoy somehow.
Here's one.
All right.
Deep Blue Sea.
You enjoy that movie.
Yeah, man.
Sharks that have got their- Smart Sharks.
Smart Sharks because they're making an Alzheimer's drug.
They're manufacturing it in a shark's brain, but in doing so, or testing it.
Couldn't test it on a dolphin, why would you?
No, and in doing so, they made the sharks super intelligent.
Don't test it on a mammal, test it on a fish.
I think Stellan Skarsgård gets his arm torn off.
Yeah.
And, of course, Samuel L. Jackson.
Who you think's going to be the main character.
Gets chomped to bits.
Very quickly, yeah.
Okay, that's fine.
Thomas Jane. LL Cool J. A woman. Deepest, bluest. going to be the main character gets chomped very quickly yeah okay that's fun thomas jane
ll cool jay a woman deepest bluest my hat is like a shark spin classic ll cool jay his best work i
feel potentially maybe uh what do you remember from it that's it it's all i literally all i
remember do you remember the bit where the shark's in the kitchen?
No And it eats the bird
It eats his parrot
I thought you were going to say burger
Yeah, it eats a burger
It eats a delicious burger
But remember, they fluctuate in size
Because the sharks are trying to sink the station
To get to the people
And they sort of climb the fence
To jump the fence
And Thomas Jane, he's a shark wrangler
It's kind of his first breakout role
Right It's kind of his first breakout role.
It's kind of spectacular.
It's the best Jaws movie that's not Jaws.
He said there was that new Blake Lively one,
which I haven't seen, but I'm interested in.
I love a shark movie.
Even like Jaws 4, even though it's terrible.
I was just thinking, are we doing TV shows as well?
Whatever, man. Because I was thinking, I'm a big fan of terrible,
if we're talking about terrible 90s stuff,
I'm a big fan of just terrible 90s superheroes, super stuff.
Like a guy in a weird motorcycle suit.
Yes.
A coward or whatever.
Super Force.
You know exactly what I'm going to talk about.
Which was all on YouTube for a while,
but then whoever put them up got ratted out
and they all got removed.
I don't know who did that, but you're a prick.
That's right.
Whoever you are, how dare you. All those, just any kind of, it's all washed out and they all got removed i don't know who did that you're a prick that's right whoever you are how dare you all those just any kind of it's all washed out and it looks weird yep and
she probably plays saxophone by night oh night man bring back night man and i know they're bad
and i will continue to watch him you watched the robocop tv series for you bought them i remember
did you end up i watched watched the TV movies. Yeah.
And?
Oh, they're bad.
That's not a guilty pleasure.
They're not enjoyable.
They're flat out bad?
They're flat out bad.
Okay, sure.
But man, I will...
If somebody can find me Superforce on DVD or digital or something,
I'm going to look on YouTube.
I'm going to look on Port Walker.
I'll see if they're...
Yeah, you can do that.
That's fine.
We don't endorse that though, Mason.
Don't endorse it.
No, that's right.
Oh, you know.
But it's a pretty good website that I endorse. In fact, these can do that. That's fine. We don't endorse that though, Mason. We don't endorse it. No, that's right. Oh, you know. Man.
But it's a pretty good website that I endorse.
In fact, these might come up.
Have we talked about the show we're going to do?
Are we going to announce the show, the little bonus thing?
Yeah, we can talk about that now.
Let's talk about it now.
Sure.
What is it?
We're doing a little, we're going to intermittently, we're going to trial out a new- That's why I picked this topic.
Yeah.
I think there was a reason.
Yeah.
Anyway, sorry, go on.
We're going to trial out maybe a that's why i picked this topic yeah there was a reason yeah anyway we're
going to trial out uh maybe a little an additional short podcast yes it's maybe we're going to do
some little animation some some youtube stuff some better people some people who are better
than us don't entrust us with it uh we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna watch some forgotten gems
yes maybe some forgotten terrible stuff and we're going to talk about and comics and comics yeah
yeah tv shows movies whatever guys we're calling to talk about it and comics and comics yeah yeah
TV shows, movies
whatever goes
we're calling it Caravan of Garbage
correct
great name
it's going to be
thank you
it's going to be a good time
we've done a couple
we're hoping to get to four
and then take a bit of a break
try them out
see how they go
they're a bit to kind of put together
because there's some editors
and some animation dudes working on them
yeah
and because they're longer videos
they're about 30 to 40 minute podcasts and then about 20. And because they're longer videos. They're about 30 to 40-minute podcasts
and then about 20-minute videos
because they're kind of edited down to a reasonable length.
But they take a bit to kind of organize.
So we'll do four and then maybe we'll never do it again.
Right.
Because, you know, no promises, man.
That's right, yeah.
We'll see how that goes.
Yeah, but I mean, all this stuff is very right for that.
Oh, look, we won't spoil what we've done.
We shouldn't.
No.
But let me tell you, I saw something I had planned.
I had always planned to see from the 90s.
I enjoyed it quite a bit.
Yes, you did.
It's no good, but it is definitely, it would be on this list.
Just whatever I've not put on this podcast,
that's what's going to be my first episode of that.
Have a guess.
Yeah.
Tweet at Mason and maybe he tell you,
he won't tell you.
But man,
super force Viper,
which was just an ad for the Dodge Viper,
which was a police super car that could turn into all variants of the Dodge Viper.
Like all their available models at the time.
Oh,
that's spectacular.
Yeah.
Right.
Why?
Right.
Yeah.
Mantis. Yeah. The guy who had the weird head, like the helmet head. Didn't he Yeah, right? Why? Yeah. Mantis.
Yeah, the guy who had the weird head, like the helmet head.
Didn't he have like a-
That was Superforce.
What was Mantis?
Mantis was a man in a wheelchair who had a super suit.
Oh, that's right.
And he could run about.
He could run about.
Exactly, yeah.
Right.
Good stuff.
Did you ever see Guy Pearce's The Time Machine?
You have a very loose definition of the term guilty pleasure, I feel.
You don't like the movie The Time Machine?
No.
Guy Pearce.
Does it have some sort of British pop star in it?
Yes, it does.
Samantha Mumba, I want to say.
Samantha Mumba, yeah.
But I might be wrong.
The female Craig David.
Correct.
That's not true.
I don't know.
It's basically a retelling of the hg wells classic but it's real schlocky and he's kind of this yeah he's this
dude who's trying to prevent the death of his fiancee so he does it again and again and again
or whatever you know he planned that's the reason he builds a time machine sorry and in doing so he
realizes that he can't actually change the past.
Because if he changed the past, that means he'd never have built the time machine to go back to save her.
Does that make sense?
Yes.
It's a paradox.
So basically, and then he gets knocked out and he goes like millions of years in the future.
And it's this weird kind of weird segregated society where
there's like sort of primitive people but there's also underground telepathic monsters and more
jeremy irons is an albino mind reader or something it's insane but great or is it no
just want to be clear i like it that's the point of guilty pleasures, Mason. Yeah, exactly.
You're supposed to like him.
What I'm doing here is I'm testing your ability to enjoy a guilty pleasure film or TV show.
Right, right.
Well, me running through that plot in my head, I stand by it.
Great.
What else you got?
I should stress that Superforce is about an astronaut who comes back to Earth and discovers that his brother...
With Superforce.
His brother, who was a cop, has disappeared.
And then... So he also joins With super force. His brother, who was a cop, has disappeared. And then...
So he also joins the police force.
Super force.
Then joining the police force isn't enough
to help find his brother.
So he goes to the guy who was John Steed
in the Avengers TV series,
who is dead and lives on a television screen.
And his friend builds him a super astronaut suit
that he can use to fight crime on a motorcycle.
And then it turns out his brother's been replaced with a robot.
Replaced with a robot?
Or is a robot?
No, he was replaced with a robot.
With an actual robot.
Like a human replica.
Correct.
90s robot.
And at one point he meets aliens.
I was supposed to have that go for him.
Yeah, real well.
Well, like, you're pretty good, Superforce.
Your planet's not worth destroying.
Not when there's so much
super force going on
anyway that's pretty good
did you see
Not Another Teen Movie
yes
it's the only one of those
not another
it's a scary movie
epic movie
superhero movie
it's the only one
that's bearable
yeah
is that because of the presence
of Chris Evans
it might be
but also I remember
there being some pretty good jokes in it
it's the last one
that has jokes in it.
Yeah, and not just, oh, look, it's Britney Spears.
Yeah, you're right.
Look, it's Borat.
Okay.
Although those things are pretty funny now that you mention it.
I'm just imagining somebody just pushing Britney Spears in a frame.
Wouldn't that be funny?
That would be real funny.
Probably cut her hair off.
A woman's breakdown is funny, isn't it?
It sure is.
Though there's a Breakfast Club recreation scene
with the original principal.
That's true, yeah.
Which is quite good.
No, I think it's...
I mean, it's not amazing, but it's pretty bloody solid.
And it's weird that he's now...
Chris Evans is more famous than Freddie Prinze Jr.,
who's the...
The lead in that, yeah, right.
The lead in the She's All That,
which was kind of heavily based off.
But no, I think the strength of that movie
is definitely in Chris Evans.
Yeah, and that they wrote jokes.
Actual jokes.
Like there's a bit where he's like,
he learns that if you want to win this woman over,
you sing a song with her name in it.
And he sings Janie's Got a Gun.
And then she's tasered by campus security.
It's pretty good.
And they do that thing where you could pick any girl in school
and I'll turn her into the prom queen or whatever
and they pick the clearly very attractive girl who's in paint-covered overalls.
That's right, yeah.
And he's like, oh, no.
Right, right, yeah.
It's fantastic.
And it's got that other guy who's great in it, the blonde guy.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
He's in Dumb and Dumberer.
He's in Cellular.
No, he's in something that's...
He was in a TV series that was quite good, if I recall.
Super Force.
No, it wasn't Super Force.
That is quite good.
What's your favourite of Con Air or The Rock?
I hate Con Air, but I love The Rock.
I like them both, but The Rock is, I think, a genuinely good movie.
Oh, then skip it all right um
starship troopers is that bad or i think it's great is it not great i mean it's schlocky and
yeah it's dumb but it's also because it's on the verge of being genius in a way yeah yeah that's
that's overstatement that's definitely an overstatement but it's got satire it's got
themes it's got bloody the guy from bloody the got themes. It's got bloody... The guy from Bloody the Blonde Guy.
Barney from How I Met Your Mother.
Yes.
It's got Casper Van Diem.
Mm-hmm.
It's got Michael Ironside.
Mm-hmm.
Pretty bloody good, mate.
What about the sequels to that?
They're just not good.
They're not good.
They don't...
Maybe I've only seen three.
Yeah.
They miss the point entirely, don't they?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah.
Here's one. Okay. What about the point entirely, don't they? Yeah, yeah. Here's one.
Okay.
What about Demolition Man?
Love it.
Although I haven't seen it since it came out.
Yeah.
On VHS.
Sure.
So.
But I remember it being spectacular.
Or I recorded it off the television.
Right, right, right.
On VHS.
Sure.
I know what a VHS is.
Yeah.
Sure.
Yeah.
But I think that's the most over-the-top,
like Stallone 90s movie that's not bad.
Okay.
Like Dread is bad.
Judge Dread is a bad movie.
I mean, I know a lot of people kind of enjoy it because it's so bad.
Uh-huh, sure.
But you know what?
There is some, like the costume's not bad.
There's some pretty good special effects.
One of the ABC Warriors makes an appearance.
Yeah, man.
You know the ABC Warriors.
I know them, I think.
He fights like mutants in the bloodyc warriors i know him i think he fought
he fights like mutants in the bloody wasteland yes he does yeah he fights a big robot um one
of the abc warriors yeah his brother is pure his brother's in it yeah it's um amanda santa yeah
yeah and they're twins apparently yeah even though they look nothing alike yeah yeah twins don't have
to be identical that's a really good point but I guess if you're a genetic clone of that person,
maybe you should be.
Yeah, good point.
Thanks.
You're welcome.
You can put that on my highlight reel.
Okay.
Got one?
Because I've got a few more.
Okay, go ahead.
I know you've seen this.
All right.
Because I think we watched it together.
John Carpenter's Vampires.
Did you say John Carpenter? Carpenter's. No know you've seen this. All right. Because I think we watched it together. John Carpenter's Vampires. Did you say John Carpenter?
Carpenter's.
No, you definitely said, and I'm going to talk about this movie as if it's the real
thing that you've said.
John Carpenter's Vampires.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's got shark in it.
One of the bald ones.
Yeah.
What's his name?
James Woods.
James Woods.
Yeah.
I don't remember enough of it.
The book it's based on is very good.
Really?
It's called Vampires.
The S is a dollar sign.
And it's by, wait for it, John Stakely.
Is that a real?
That's a pen name.
That's not a pen name.
He's done other.
He did another book called Armor, which is kind of a Starship Troopers kind of book as well.
He's actually a guy called John Stakely.
Right, right.
And I was very excited for this movie to come out
because I'm like, I really love that book.
And you loved this movie?
I have no memory of it.
I remember...
Sort of.
There's a lot of boner jokes.
Yeah, there certainly is.
Like James Woods is a really kind of...
He sets the rules of the universe at the start.
He's like, these are vampires.
He has a great speech in a car
about the flaws of the vampire
and how to bloody get around them.
The fattest Baldwin is in it.
But is he now the fattest Baldwin?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Who knows?
Yeah.
A few seasons on 30 Rock
makes you pretty fat.
It certainly does.
Yeah.
Though he kind of went into that.
Yeah.
Still an handsome man.
I know, right?
I maintain.
I will not take that away from him. Is there a Dusk Till Dawn TV series? Have we talked about that? Yes, I haven't yeah. Still an handsome man. I know, right? I maintain. I will not take that away from him.
Is there a Dusk Till Dawn TV series?
Have we talked about that?
Yes, I haven't seen it.
Okay.
Do you like Dusk Till Dawn?
Again, it's a...
I don't remember loving it.
A woman turns into a snake.
I love the twist.
Yep.
How it starts and it's this gangster film.
They're like low-level
hitman or whatever it is and then they go to this bar and then it just turns all right see i went in
knowing it was you went oh yes surely we all did though probably yeah you're probably right yeah
but that that's cool i think that's a cool premise i don't know what this guy's got the
the penis gun that's a good joke isn't it that's pretty good yeah yeah what a great joke ah so good is that a
good movie who's who's to say that's the thing some so some of these some of these for me are
guilty pleasure movies because i've not seen them in so long right right right and i'm like yeah i
defend it's fun and i defend these to the death or whatever but i'm sure if i if somebody said
all right let's watch it i don't i disagree with Let's watch it together. I'm sure I'd sit there and 10 minutes in,
I'd be like tugging at my collar going,
I've made a mistake here.
This is a waste of everyone's time.
Well, let me tell you something, Mason.
I watched Mask of Zorro today and it was amazing.
Wow.
There you go.
Pete mentioned this the other day.
You know Pete.
Hello, Pete, if you're listening.
Oh, my friend Pete.
Yeah, in an email.
Oh, yeah.
He said that-
Hollywood Pete, we call him.
That's right.
He recommended Rain of Fire to everybody when it came out.
The dragon film.
Yeah.
The Matthew McConaughey, Christian Bale-
I really like that film.
That's what I said.
I'm like, dude, that's a great film.
Is it?
I mean, I don't know.
I loved it at the time.
There's a bloody squirrel suit attack on a dragon.
Yeah, man.
Great. Oh oh it's
so good i like that movie a lot they triangulated dragon's position and then try to pin it to the
ground it's got two great actors in it yeah one of whom at the time we didn't know was a great actor
gerard butler gerard butler it's just i remember the special effects being really good for the
time they probably don't hold up as well but those dragons were they make a point to be like no these aren't magical and mystical these are just
terrible monsters that have ruined our planet yeah and i i just remember being a lot of a lot
of fun and it's a bit where christian bale is recreating star wars for the kids and they're
like that's right like did you did you did you make up this story? And he's like, yep, I did.
I made up this story.
This is fine, yeah.
I love a fun, quirky Christian Bale, you know?
Yeah, it's great.
Just a fun-loving Christian Bale.
Yeah, he does it all the time.
He can't stop it.
He has fun.
He trashes your lights.
He certainly does.
Yeah, yeah.
No, Rain of Fire's a good one.
You got any others?
No, but I'm sure I can find one.
What about...
Yes.
I think this is a good show, and I mentioned before,
I really like Supernatural.
I haven't watched the entirety of last season
because I'm waiting until it comes on Netflix.
I'm going to binge watch it.
But here's the thing.
There's never going to be a final season.
That's okay.
I'm going to go with it.
No, but I mean, it's just going to keep going forever.
Until people get sick of it.
No, it's still going to keep going.
They'll bring it back. It's going to be like The Simpsons. It's never going to keep going forever. Until people get sick of it. No, it's still going to keep going. They'll just, they'll re,
they'll bring it back. It's going to be like The Simpsons.
It's never going to leave.
Surely.
The Simpsons will leave eventually,
right?
No,
it literally will never.
Good Lord.
In the future,
future generations will swear allegiance to The Simpsons,
I feel.
Right.
People watch The Simpsons,
I guess they do.
Yeah.
You know what?
The first G.I. Joe movie.
I haven't seen the second one.
The animated one.
No.
Oh,
the,
yeah, no. The Cobra. I like that movie too. Yeah? Yeah, yeah. That's been universally panned, do. Yeah. You know what? The first G.I. Joe movie. I haven't seen the second one. The animated one. No. Oh, the... Yeah, no.
Why is it Cobra?
I like that movie too.
Yeah?
Yeah, yeah.
That's been universally panned, surely.
Definitely.
What do you like about it?
It's good fun.
I like that I saw it on a plane.
What did you like about it?
Oh, so you could drift in and out.
Pretty much.
And the altitude was...
No, I remember because I was overseas and I hadn't seen a movie for six months.
Yeah.
And then I saw G.I. Joe on a plane.
I hadn't seen a new movie for six months.
And I was like, this is amazing.
Yeah. But it's got everything that you'd think you'd hate.
Right.
It's got... Brendan Fraser.
He's in it.
One of the Wayans.
One of the Wayanses.
Channing Tatum before people thought he was good.
Yep, it's got all those things, and you'd think it'd be terrible.
Yeah.
But I had a real fun time watching it.
But the second one is terrible.
Yeah.
It's got bloody Eccleston's in it.
He is too.
He's in it all.
Deathstroke.
Deathstroke? Deathstroke, yeah. Great. one is terrible yeah it's got bloody eccleston's in it he is too is it is all death's true death's
true yeah yeah great they melt the eiffel tower yeah maybe it's the second is it nanites yeah
there's uh there's super suits there are super that's exactly every you'd think i'd hate every
part there's no super suits in gi joe the was cartoon slash action figure slash marvel comic from back in the day sure yeah
but i mean that the marvel comic did at one point have um cobra fighting somebody in a bear suit so
that's that probably where they got it from probably like can we do a bear suit yeah probably
not do a bear suit a super suit yeah do you think they're going to bring back that series
or i mean continue it? Oh, no.
Because The Rock took over.
He's too busy.
Yeah, he is.
Yeah.
He can only lead one or at most three franchises at the same time.
I think he can do six.
No.
But he's doing the Journey movies probably.
Yeah, right.
They're making them still.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, yeah.
Fright Night.
The new one.
Didn't see it.
It's kind of great. Saw the old one. Garbage. We know the fun The new one. Didn't see it. It's kind of great.
Saw the old one.
Garbage.
We know the fun fact about one of the guys in that.
Go back and listen to that.
If you don't...
Yeah, that's it.
One of our episodes?
What episode would it be?
Someone put it up very early.
Someone go...
If someone on the Reddit, the weekly planet Reddit,
could put the number of that episode in the timestamp,
that'd be great.
That'd be great.
Because I have no idea.
In the original Fright Night,
the character of Evil Eddie went on to to have a very the actor who played evil
eddie a very illustrious very illustrious storied career in the film a film industry yes just just
for anybody who's and it's quite the journey isn't it though yeah yeah but no the new one
anton yelchin's in it yeah and colin farrell is vampire. Uh-huh. And it kind of messes with the...
It uses the law that they kind of established in the first one.
Uh-huh.
But they kind of twist it a bit.
Right, okay.
You know, a vampire can't enter a house unless you invite them.
So he blows up the house.
Oh, yeah.
The David Tennant is the...
He's like this...
This Criss Angel-styled magician.
Uh-huh.
But also he's had run-ins with vampires in the past.
Okay.
And that's something he's kind of putting behind him,
but then he's kind of dragged back into this battle.
Uh-huh.
It's pretty solid, man.
Yeah, okay.
Especially for a reboot.
Yeah, I'd recommend that as a guilty pleasure horror movie, Mason.
Oh, yeah.
I think that's all.
We're never across horror movies.
No, we're not.
We should get more into them.
Yeah, probably.
Don't Breathe, that's the new one.
Never breathe.
You know what I do for horror movies?
You cover your face with your hands and you go...
Yeah, because it's scary.
I'm a chicken.
I'm a little baby man.
I'm so rarely impressed with horror movies, though.
But apparently Don't Breathe's good.
Apparently Lights Out's really good.
The short it's based on is quite creepy.
Have you seen that?
With the...
Turning off the light and you can see the woman standing there in the darkness.
You're thinking of the Pixar logo. I am.
You're thinking of that terrifying
lamp that comes in and it crushes
the eye. The poor ball
that it crushed. Does it crush a ball?
No, it crushes an eye.
It doesn't also crush a ball in a short.
There's a short. Oh, okay, right. About
the lamp. Yeah, yeah. You know, I also like
The Lost World, the Jurassic Park sequel.
It's not as good by like a long stretch. Yeah. But it's got the bit where the T-Rex stomps through the city, yeah. Right, okay. You know, I also like The Lost World, the Jurassic Park sequel. It's not as good by like a long stretch.
Yeah.
But it's got the bit where the T-Rex stomps through the city, so that's pretty good.
Yeah.
Any more?
Well, speaking of The Rock, the last one, and we've mentioned it before because I'm
sure we reviewed it like quite recently.
Right, right.
The last Hercules movie.
Yeah, that was fun.
Real good.
Yeah.
Was it panned?
I don't think, not universally, no.
Okay, great.
Okay.
I think people enjoyed it.
That surprised me a lot.
I thought that was going to be real terrible.
Correct.
Ah, then it's off the list.
Then it's okay.
Yeah, uh-huh.
It's pretty okay.
Okay, I've got one more here.
Krampus from last year.
Did you see Krampus?
No.
It's on Netflix now.
Maybe I should watch Krampus.
Well, there's various versions of Krampus.
I'm sure there's heaps of Krampus movies because it's out of copyright.
This is the one with Adam Scott.
It's the property that people realized was out of copyright all at the same time.
You know what I'm bloody sick of?
Like bloody...
What's that property?
It's got David Koechner in it as well.
Great.
Yeah, yeah.
So what were you going to say?
What's the property?
I've forgotten his name.
I was going to do a joke and I've forgotten.
Well, you're an idiot.
The Australian guy
Sam Worthington
that property
everybody realised
does not
Titans
no I was going to say
Sam Worthington
getting square
everybody realised
Sam Worthington
was out of copy right now
and decided to use him
yeah
yeah Krampus is fun
but you know what
Adam Scott
yeah
there's like
every hour
and then every Christmas
you get a YouTube video
and it's like
do you believe
There's this crazy tradition
Where there's an evil Santa Claus
Yeah
Yeah we know man
We know yeah
It's been around for like
That's been common knowledge
For like 20 years
Right
Adam Scott's in it
Adam Scott's in it
Is it funny
In parts
Huh
Darkly humorous
Okay
I think
We've talked about
Operation Endgame right
What's that
It's that
Tony Collette's in it as well.
Huh.
Yeah.
It's a weird, weird movie.
Well, then I don't like it.
Okay.
This isn't a...
It's not a guilty pleasure movie
because it's not...
Okay, it's fine.
Sure.
But, I mean,
nobody even knows it exists.
I'm sure we've talked about it before,
but it's a movie...
It's like a weird...
It's like an espionage
comedy action movie
that takes a weird turn
into horror about two-thirds of the way through. What is it? It's like an espionage comedy action movie that takes a weird turn into horror
about
two thirds of the way
through
what is it?
it's like an espionage
comedy
what's it called?
Operation Endgame
but it's got
it's got Jeffrey Tambor
it's got Adam Scott
it's got Zach Galifianakis
you've talked about this
it's got Rob Corddry
yeah
it's got Ellen Barkin
it's got this weird
all star comedy cast
yeah
and I don't know why it exists.
40% Rotten Tomatoes, 4.9 IMDb.
It's interesting.
Yeah.
It's got a very generic cover.
Right?
Give it that.
It's so odd.
Yeah, that's real weird.
People should check it out.
Just let me know if they liked it.
Have you seen it?
Yeah, I've seen it.
And you liked it?
Yeah, kind of.
Okay, fair enough.
Well, it's got a good cast.
But again, it's got a weird turn. Yeah. It doesn't end like you'd think it's, I've seen it. And you liked it? Yeah, kind of. Okay, fair. Well, it's got a good cast. But again, it's got a weird turn.
Yeah.
It doesn't end like you'd think it's going to end.
Okay.
It's like this guy is sort of brought into this espionage agency,
which is kind of like the CIA,
except there's two opposing teams that kind of counterbalance each other.
Right, right.
And then there's like a security lockdown and both teams have to try and kill each other. Right, right. And then they kind of get it. Then there's like a security lockdown
and both teams have to try and kill each other.
Okay, right.
It's very odd.
Interesting.
Should mention before we wrap this up.
Yeah.
First Caravan of Garbage episode.
That's going to happen a lot.
Yeah, probably.
Will happen this Thursday.
Okay, great.
There'll be an extended one on the audio,
just wherever you're listening to this.
Yep.
And there's also one on my YouTube channel.
Bonus in your feed.
That's right. Subscribe if you haven't already get that get it just appear and you can
find you'll be like oh i'm having a bad day at the office oh yeah that's the noise you'll make
that's the noise you'll make make sure you do don't have a bad day no but there's also it's
if you want to see visuals to that um it's a shorter version yep Yep. Which is equally dynamic though, Mason, on my YouTube channel.
I've seen some, you showed me some test stuff from that.
It looks real nice.
It does look real nice.
Good, Mason, let's do the next, what is it?
So that's going to be the Weekly Planet YouTube feed.
Yeah, it's going to be,
the Weekly Planet YouTube feed is going to have the audio version,
but on my YouTube channel,
it's going to have the picture version.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, I get it.
Subscribe to it all, I guess.
Yeah, just subscribe to everything.
If you like something, subscribe to it.
Or don't.
If you don't like something, unsubscribe.
Oh.
Don't put that idea in their heads.
I think it's important they know.
Fine.
Mason, you know what it's time for?
Chekhov's unsubscription.
You tell them they can unsubscribe.
By the third act, they'll bloody unsubscribe, mate.
You know what it's time for
Ah it's our famous segment
What we're reading
Yep
And then what are we going to read
Yeah
Yep
Nailed it
Great
150
I'm doing the thing
What are we reading today
Mason you're definitely reading
Or watching something
Or will
Ah you know what
Well I watched Hardcore Henry
I mentioned that earlier
Yes, you did
On your recommendation
I watched The Nice Guys
And?
Real good fun
I liked it, good
Shane Black
I'm glad, I thought you would
Great people
Yeah, yeah
It's good
You feel for these characters
Even though they are not good
No
They're not good people
Well, they're not so bad
Yeah, they're, you know
I'm glad because I made the proclamation
That you would definitely like it
That's true
And you did
Also, I've been listening to
Aunty Donna Have a Podcast Do they? been listening to Aunty Donna Have a Podcast.
Do they?
Sketch comedy group
Aunty Donna Have a Podcast.
What's the podcast?
Is it Sketch Comedy Podcast?
No, it's just them mucking about.
Chatting?
Just having a bit of a muck about.
I love those guys, man.
They're really good.
Very silly.
You told me you had something of theirs
that you were going to give to me.
Can't find it.
And then you didn't.
What was it?
I can't find it.
Well, then tell me.
Oh, it's just a bloody stubby holder.
Ah, you son of a bitch.
Give me another one.
All right, I'll find it. I love those guys. Yeah, it's just a bloody stubby holder ah you son of a bitch give me another one I'll find it I love those guys
yeah it's pretty good
just them being
just being silly
billies
yeah
I get a mention
from one of them
and then the other
two can't remember
who I am
that's pretty funny
be like episode
six or seven
or something like
that because they
they my full name
is mentioned
and I don't think
they know me
from my as my
full name
right right
so
well they don't
know you at all yeah well they don't remember you no they remember me no I don't think so yeah I as my full name. Right, right. So it's pretty good. Or they don't know you at all.
Yeah.
Or they don't remember you.
No, they remember me.
No, I don't think so.
Yeah.
I had lunch with Broden a while back.
I bet you did.
Yeah, I did.
You dickhead.
I watched Donald Glover's new show, Atlanta.
Yep.
He's a, there's this kind of up and coming rap superstar in the making.
Yep.
And Donald Glover's kind of this, he's his cousin slash hustler slash wannabe music uh
manager and it's kind of about their adventures together and it's quite funny yeah it's it's very
there's very somber in tone at times mason uh-huh it's about the real world man and the rap industry
and when they play the rap music yes i'm like is this good because i don't know anything about
so maybe it's good maybe it isn't't. But I really like the show.
So I think the first one's on...
No, it is.
The first one's on YouTube.
So is Donald Lava rapping real raps?
No, he's not the rapper in it.
Okay.
Yeah.
Who is the real rapper?
Is it a real rapper?
I don't know.
I have no idea.
But yeah, it's pretty funny, man.
It's pretty bloody funny.
That is pretty funny.
One of the jokes I enjoyed,
the rapper guy has a kind of stoner,
loose unit friend that he kind of hangs around with.
Is there a term for rapper guy?
No, that's it.
Is there a more concise term for rapper guy?
Rap star.
Rapper.
What is Kid Rock called?
That's a good question.
He's a rock superstar.
Yeah, he's a rock superstar.
That's right, yeah.
But where he says that nobody...
He's a real Uncle Cracker, if you know what I mean.
Sure.
You know?
He says something like like nobody's seen
I think it's
nobody's seen Biggie
since his funeral
and Donald Glover's like
yeah that's
how funerals work
right
that was a really good joke
alright Mason
yes
get it ready
get it lined up
get what ready
what are you talking about
the letters thing
we have every week
I remind you every week
oh
and every week
you let us down.
You're letting us down right now.
I'm not.
I'm bloody...
Mason.
Oh.
Look, okay.
I had a torrent going.
That's my fault.
No, actually, it's my fault
because I assumed you would have a torrent going
or there'd be somebody in the other room watching Gilmore Girls,
so I turned my Wi-Fi off because I played this out of my phone.
Oh, okay.
So that was my fault because that's come out of my phone.
Thanks, Optus or Telstra or 3 or Virgin or whoever you're with.
Optus.
Yeah.
It's gone down to 3G.
Unbelievable.
What is this?
What is this, the Stone Age?
The bloody Dark Ages, mate.
God.
Yeah.
God. Get out of here, phone. Got some Dark Ages, mate. God. Yeah. God.
Get out of here, phone.
Got some letters here, Mason.
I think they're all DC related.
Oh, love DC.
Is it about DC memes?
I love DC memes on Instagram.
We haven't talked about DC memes.
We haven't talked about DC memes, but I love them.
Go on Instagram, search hashtag DC meme.
Boy, there's just some great memes on there.
Do you want to just break down what they generally are?
Generally, they are...
They're very...
They're not pithy.
No.
They're just...
Long-winded.
They're very long-winded.
Like, it'll be a...
They're usually Marvel versus DC memes.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's a very long, elaborate, like...
Series of panels.
It's a sort of a...
Text.
It's a bloody... Yeah, there's a lot of text. It's a sort of a text. It's a bloody...
Yeah, there's a lot of text.
It's like a manifesto about why DC movies are better than Marvel movies.
Right, right.
And there'll be some...
They're so good.
And it normally ends with Ben Affleck telling Robert Downey Jr.
that he's Batman.
Yeah, they're so good.
Yeah, you text me them during the week.
Look, sometimes if I have to text you about something,
and I'm like, this text isn't very interesting.
It's lacking punch.
It's lacking punch.
I'll send you a DCA when I've found it.
They're so good.
I can read one out if you want.
Please do.
Because you've sent me quite a few.
Good.
Do you know I've got you in my phone as Jason just because I think it's funny?
That's quite all right.
That's okay.
I'm honoured.
Okay, that's not a good one.
I mean, they're all not good ones.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Okay, so this one, good one. I mean, they're all not good ones. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Okay, so this one, this is the one that makes the most sense.
Right.
It's a picture of Iron Man and Captain America,
and it says, wear masks, everyone knows them.
Everyone know them.
Know them, sorry.
I just self-corrected that in my head.
And then it's got Superman and Wonder Woman.
It says, don't wear masks, no one know them. This one, it's got Superman and Wonder Woman. It says, don't wear masks.
No one know them.
This one, it's a picture of the Joker.
Yeah.
The Jared Leto Joker.
It says, was in SS, Suicide Squad, for 11 minutes.
Already more terrifying than these guys.
And then below it, it's got Loki, Ultron, Whiplash,
whatever the bad guy was in Thor, The Dark World, Red Skull,
Ronan the Accuser, Baron Zemo, and...
Mandarin.
Yeah, Ben Kingsley's Mandarin.
Yeah.
Disagree.
Also, really complicated.
They're so complicated.
You have to know who all those characters are.
I was struggling.
Anyway, I bloody love them.
Well, you just said the guy from Thor the Dark World.
Yeah, I did.
Christopher Eccleston, who you mentioned before,
but you still couldn't think of it.
Yeah, all right.
Good stuff. All right, Mason. Anyway, I love those memes. I love them. Keep them going. the dark world yeah he did Christopher Eccleston who you mentioned before but you still couldn't think of it good stuff
alright Mason
anyway I love those memes
I love them
keep them going
and again
you don't have to
you don't have to
pick a side
no
just like movies
that are good
you can like both
it's fine
just like whatever
you want
it's fine
this is from
Tim Coogan
I like memes
yeah I know you do
send me your
favorite DC memes
have you seen some
yes
DC Marvel memes
they're my favorite
I don't care
whose side you're on
send me a good
DC Marvel meme get into it remind me at the end whose side you're on send me a good DC Marvel meme
get into it
remind me at the end
of this to read out
some guilty pleasures
of people on Twitter
I mentioned that earlier
but I'll do it
after the end of the latest
Tim says
now that Geoff Johns
is CCO of DC
do you think
he's the DC
C-U-C-C-O
yes
do you think
he's the DC cucko
do you think
our chances
of getting
a good
we're referring to him as DC cuckoo from now on.
DC cuckoo, done.
Of getting a good Green Lantern movie have gone up.
Hashtag Weekly Planet Podcast.
He loves Green Lantern.
That's right.
I mean, we're definitely getting a Green Lantern movie at some point.
Yep.
But that's probably...
I'd say he's probably pushed that.
Yeah.
Because he did the...
He rebooted it in the mid-2000s, didn't he?
Yeah, he rebooted a lot of stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
Like the Justice Society and all that sort of stuff.
Right, right.
And pretty successfully.
Yeah.
A lot of that stuff.
So no, I think having him in the mix, that's not going to hurt.
Yeah, I would love to see another Green Lantern origin story.
He loves Hal Jordan as well, doesn't he?
Yeah.
That'd be really good.
Because we're getting a Green Lantern core movie.
Yeah.
And I don't think we need an origin.
Like we've had the origin.
People didn't like it. But you could just...
And again, you could explain that he's been
protecting the...
I mean, regardless of which Green Lantern you use,
he'll probably use Hal Jordan. Yeah.
Probably. But there'll be a
few. Yeah. So, I mean, you could just...
You could just have him come in and be like,
I'm normally protecting
the space sector, and nothing happens on Earth.
Yeah.
So I don't need to be here.
But now.
Why are so many buildings knocked down?
Yeah, exactly.
Right.
And so you'd be like, now I'm back.
Yeah.
That'd be good.
Do you want to see him as an older Hal Jordan with the grey in the temples?
Yes, I do.
I know you're a big fan of that.
Well, hopefully, Mason.
I think he got rid of that, didn't he?
I don't remember.
What, for vanity's sake?
No, no, no.
Geoff Johns wrote it out.
Oh. Because didn't he brought back Green Lan what for vanity's sake no no no Geoff Johns wrote it out oh
because didn't he
brought back Green Lantern
after Green Lantern
went mad
and killed everybody
yes he did yeah
yeah
he retconned it so
it wasn't Hal Jordan
going mad
it was Hal Jordan
going mad
because there was an entity
that made him go mad
in his mind
in his mind
yeah yeah
space bug
that's right
this is from
at Mitch Kelly 15
also I'm looking forward
to what 2016
17 18 19 can do with like rings you know absolutely special effects probably just a lot of
fists fists and trains well i want to see a green boxing glove i want to see the classics and i want
to see you want to see some new stuff and i would like to see different green lands doing different
stuff yeah because what they can do it depends their imagination. Yeah, right. And you've got your Jon Stewart who's an architect
and all his constructions are architectural.
Somewhat so.
And he's architectural?
Doesn't matter, Mason.
I've had a big weekend, all right?
Just ease up.
All right.
Tell us about your big weekend.
No.
All right.
Okay, look, everybody was doing cocaine.
And I don't do cocaine because I'm too old to start doing cocaine.
And how good could Australian cocaine be, really? I mean, really. Yeah because I'm too old to start doing cocaine. And how good
could Australian cocaine be, really?
I mean, really.
Yeah.
I'm just not a drugs guy, man.
I'm not a drugs guy.
Yeah.
Despite my appearance.
Despite that weird white mustache
you have most of the time.
What's going on there?
Why do you love baking so much?
What's baking soda for anyway?
Yeah.
What are we talking about?
Oh, yeah.
So they all have, you know,
and like, you know, Kilowog's full have, you know, and like, you know,
Kilowog's full of passion and he's got passion, you know, whatever.
And Guy Gardner's a real dickhead and so that's...
I want to see a Green Lantern with a cast.
You know, like they've got a broken arm so he's got the cast.
I love that.
Oh, yeah, that's good, yeah.
Because he's still out and about, man.
Yeah, I love those two.
Yeah, it's great.
Anyway, sorry.
Do you think they fall asleep?
It goes off?
And then they're like, oh, God. That's a good question. This is heeled weird. That's a really good question it'd have to wouldn't it have to stay yeah i think it depends on your willpower
mhm uh mitch kelly 15 hashtag weekly power yes hashtag weekly planet pod this is for you
can you please explain uh the origin of deathstroke and is the son of batman storyline
accurate the son of bat i don't know what that's doing.
Is it the Damian Wayne one, I assume?
Oh.
Was there an adaptation?
I don't know.
Oh.
I haven't seen it.
Don't know.
Yes, it is.
It's dead on.
Okay, great.
But Deathstroke's origin.
Yes.
Super soldier.
Well, he was a regular soldier.
He's bad Captain America.
Yeah, in a way, he is bad Captain America.
That's true.
Yeah, that's probably the most accurate parallel.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So he was a soldier.
He had a best friend named Wintergreen,
who later became his butler for some reason.
Gambling debts.
Yeah, right?
He was exposed to like a...
He was inducted into like an experimental super soldier program.
It was probably called something else because it's the DC universe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then he is an assassin for hire.
And his origin originally was in the Teen Titans.
Yeah, yeah.
Because his son Jericho was in the Teen Titans.
Yes.
And he was killed.
And then he set up on a very elaborate plot yeah to bring them all down and
he didn't didn't work didn't work out they're all still around yeah but he has a real he's he's real
he's not keen on the team times so and so advanced in combat and weapons and all that kind of stuff
and stronger than have you seen deadpool same origin basically pretty much but not as
fourth wall-e yeah exactly exactly I've actually got a video
on it
what's it called
I have to look that up
I don't know
it's why Deathstroke
is a good Batman villain
it's like last week's one
but yeah I talk about
the origin there
if you want to check it out
Mason
I do
Frank Taylor
there is a great
in Deathstroke
the Terminator
which was his series
in the 90s
there is a great
Deathstroke v batman
fight right like that runs all the way across yeah like and it's like runs all the way across
the city oh not that one no no but uh it's like uh and it's and death deathstroke comes away the
victor in a rare turn because this was before batman won all the time right you'd occasionally
suffer some losses severe losses yeah yeah okay but that, yeah, I think it'd be great.
I think a lot of the impetus of this is him,
Batman versus Deathstroke in Arkham Origins.
Yeah.
Because that's a great.
Yeah, absolutely.
That's a great fight.
Great situation.
Cinematic.
Very cinematic.
Frank Taylor 03 says,
I have to quickly plan a pod.
Can we finally have some more Shia LaBeouf news this week
So for those of you
Who are newish to the show
We used to have a recurring segment
Where we'd talk about either Shia LaBeouf news
Or Batman v Superman news
Because both of them were constantly
Cropping up
Circa 2014
And then both went away
Because the movie came out and people stopped giving a shit about Shia LaBeouf.
But he's come out and said that, I've got a quote here on his role in Suicide Squad,
which very nearly happened.
The character was initially-
I've just remembered, it's not Jericho that was killed.
It was Ravager.
Deathstroke has two sons.
I was going to say.
Yeah.
I didn't want to correct you there.
Okay, cool.
Thanks.
We'll get letters otherwise.
You'd get letters.
Yeah.
The character was different initially then. Will Smith came in and the script changed a bit the character and
tom hardy's character later played by joel kinnaman got uh written down to build will up
and he said i don't think warner brothers liked liked me i i don't doubt that i went into meat
and they were like nah you're crazy you're too crazy exactly you're a good actor but not this
one that's wow.
That's,
it was a big investment.
I gave him a whole bunch of really backhanded compliments.
Yeah.
Does that,
does that story end with,
look,
they said I was,
they said I was too crazy and a great actor.
And then everyone applauded me.
It's one of those,
you know,
everybody knows the person and all their stories end with,
and then everybody cheered.
Yeah.
And everyone agreed that I was the hero.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
What a dickhead.
I think it was going to be the Joel,
not the Joel Kinnaman,
it was going to be the Scott Eastwood role.
I think that was the idea.
Okay.
The guy who was in that movie.
Yeah, exactly.
Guy who set the mind?
Yeah, and he died.
Or the crocodile man did. i don't give a shit about
charlotte i'm sick of his shit quite frankly i mean we haven't talked about it for a long time
just seems like such a wanker like so self-important but also it's that doing weird
stuff just to get attention kind of thing like you're not crazy or out there you're just an
idiot what are you like 28 fucking get it together do you know what i mean yeah you're not crazy or out there. You're just an idiot. What are you, like, 28? Fucking get it together.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
What are you doing?
Just do coke on the weekends, not all the time, you know?
Anyway, he's rich.
He's probably sure he doesn't care.
And also, he rubbished Steven Spielberg this week.
Did he?
For what?
For Indiana Jones.
You said the whole thing was like a big machine.
It was Indiana Jones 4.
It's like a money-making production.
Wow.
Like a movie.
So you're going to give your paycheck back, Shia LaBeouf.
Is that what you're going to do?
You're going to give your money back?
You should probably give your money back for the three Transformers movies you're in.
No, those ones he said he liked.
Oh, so he can keep the money for those.
He can keep the money for that one, but all the other ones he didn't.
Wow.
Yeah.
You should keep the money for your appearance in the video clip to actual cannibal shia labeouf that i liked yeah that was good yeah
i'll give him that maybe he's not maybe he's okay no see that's the thing that that song is great
yeah but the video clip is great but he didn't make it he's just at the end clapping and you
go oh he's a good sport then so So maybe, you know. Yeah. No.
Disagree.
Anyway.
Tweets, Mason.
Yes.
Oh, guilty pleasure tweets?
Yep.
Or just regular tweets?
Captain Galaxy says porn.
Sure.
Oh, yeah?
Sure, yeah, yeah.
Lee Lahav, who's great animation.
Check him out, Mason.
I've talked about it before.
Two Broke Girls, Forever.
Wow.
Well, Luca T, 17 again.
If you hashtag weeklyplanetpodmason, you can see some of those as well if you want.
You don't have to though.
Little Nicky from Adam J. Rendon.
I was trying to think of an Adam Sandler movie.
That you don't hate.
Well, I don't hate.
I guess Happy Gilmore.
I don't hate Happy Gilmore.
That's the best one, but it's good, right?
I wouldn't call it a Gilfie pleasure because that's universally people like. I liked it.
That's funny.
It's got the best jokes.
Yep.
You know. You sure? Is that's universally people like. I liked it. That's funny. It's got the best jokes. Yep. You know.
You sure?
You know what I'm talking about?
I know.
James Davenport, he hates himself for loving the movie Mean Girls as much as he does.
That's actually a great movie.
That's a good film.
And also it was written by...
Tina Fey?
Tina Fey, yeah.
Aidan O'Hara, Click.
Another Adam Sandler one.
That's no good.
That's no good.
What could you possibly like about that?
I mean, good on you for liking it.
But here's the test. What's good possibly like about that? I mean, good on you for liking it. But here's the test.
What's good about it?
Nothing.
It's garbage.
I've seen some of it.
Sure.
It's just sad.
It's just sad.
It's just a sad movie.
Doesn't he fast forward time or something?
Yeah.
Something like that.
And then he fast forwards through too much time and his kids are like,
Oh, you were never around.
Great.
Dan Layden says, How did it go with Murder?
Don't trust the B in Apartment 23, which you enjoyed.
Good, yeah.
Both of those shows are good.
And Keeping Up Appearances, which is garbage.
With Mrs. Hyacinth Bouquet.
I hate that show, man.
Yeah, no, I hated it too.
The Film Guy, Airheads.
Oh, no, I said a different one, didn't I?
You said, yeah.
I did.
No.
What else we got here
DC Doctor
Mall Cop
it's not good
and it's weirdly entertaining
Paul Blart Mall Cop
yeah at least it's not Spectre
Boomer says
Jersey Shore
don't know why
don't judge me
Graham Smith
I saw an episode of
Jersey Shore
I've only seen one episode
did someone yell
the cabs are here
no but what happened was
it was basically
it was a guy walking along
I guess the pier of
the jersey shore and this was like a couple of seasons in probably so people knew of him right
and so this guy kept coming up to this guy and being like you're not you're not from the jersey
shore you're you're not you're did like from the like you're not native to the jersey shore i guess
and and this guy kept like harassing, and then there was just a fight.
Nice.
It was no good.
Oh.
Yeah.
What do we got here?
DC Doctor, Green Lantern as well.
What is that?
The movie Green Lantern.
Oh, okay.
Oh, I see.
I thought it was a TV series called DC Doctor.
Corey, the first Transformers.
No, no, no.
That movie's quite good up until...
It's quite good up until the point
where the Transformers
are playing hide-and-seek outside of Shia LaBeouf's house.
Right, right.
When you're like, couldn't they just transform into cars
and be around the house?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Sean says, Daredevil 2003 and Terminator 3.
Don't judge me, goat.
I kind of like those movies as well.
That's okay.
Daredevil has the playground fight,
which everybody thinks is super dumb,
but I think is delightfully charming.
Great.
It is dumb.
And it blossomed into a real life, but now ended romance.
Correct.
Thanks, Hollywood.
Dick Willy War Pig 3 says Spider-Man 3.
I'm a big fan of Dick Willy War Pig 3.
A movie called Ben.
He's very supportive on Twitter.
Thank you, Ben.
The 2005 Charlie and the Chocolate Factory movie,
just because I watched it as a kid.
Oh, boy.
And also Lake Placid.
I'd agree with Lake Placid.
Is that the giant crocodile movie?
Yeah, giant crocodile one.
Brad Love.
Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter.
Never seen it.
No.
Leon Toy Soldiers.
Isn't it good?
I don't remember.
Which one is Toy Soldiers?
Oh, the...
The Sean Astin one, is it?
Oh, I was thinking of Small Soldiers.
Small Soldiers is good.
Right?
Jim Bob Squarepants says,
The Breakup with Jennifer Aniston and...
Can't be good.
And the other guy.
Can't be good.
Yeah.
Sean says,
Can Batman v Superman be considered a guilty pleasure?
Ooh.
Yeah, okay.
But seriously, New Girl, he says.
Gravity...
No, I'll happily put New Girl into the guilty pleasure category.
I've seen New Girl.
It's pretty good.
Good time.
For a good fun.
At Vic Gerg says,
It was Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., but I dropped it,
so I guess it's not so pleasurable after all.
I guess not.
If you're not having fun, walk away.
Yeah.
It's good rules.
Mr. Two Moments, Gotham.
I can see that.
Mark Hardy says, Discuss how looper is the poor man's time
cop discusses how interesting you love looper uh sherlock is fun to watch from orden chamberlain
i like sherlock oh no this guy's like me just me says yeah mr sunday movies videos
got you got me got you they're universally panned, but he enjoys them anyway.
Andy Chow says, Battlefield Earth, best movie ever.
Who wouldn't love John Travolta as a seven-foot-tall alien?
Me.
Dogs run the planet.
Yeah.
Heroes all seasons, despite everyone hating season one and one, two, three, four.
But from Aya, one more.
Mason, The Shannara Chronicles is total shit and thoroughly entertaining from Carl Drongo. Everyone hating season one and one, two, three, four. But from Aya. One more. Mason.
The Shannara Chronicles is total shit and thoroughly entertaining from Carl Drongo.
That's good. I've seen all the Shannara Chronicles and he's absolutely right.
Yeah.
But it's pretty entertaining.
That's the show for this week, Mason.
We did it.
Don't forget to do all these things Mason will list.
Brush your teeth and floss.
Flossing is very important.
Floss first.
Floss first?
Yeah, man.
What's that?
Because you get the gunk out
and then you brush over the top.
Oh, wow.
Machine over the top.
I'm going to try that tonight.
Please do.
Thank you.
Good advice.
I do floss.
It's important.
Yeah, me too.
There was a recent study about it.
It's not important,
but I think they're wrong.
I don't think they have enough data.
When I got one of my teeth fixed,
I've got a gap at the back,
which is just big enough that it sometimes catches stuff.
So I thought about getting it fixed.
Is that why you have that speech impediment?
Correct.
But I thought about getting it fixed, but then if I get it fixed,
I probably won't floss.
So I just leave it and live my life, man.
What else?
What else should people do or watch or listen to or find this?
20 minutes of exercise a day.
Sometimes I do a bit more than that, Mason.
I don't know if you know that about me.
I like to do my crunches.
I know.
God.
God.
Settle your personal vendettas, I think.
Just bury some hatchets, people, if you could.
That would be great.
You'll feel better.
You don't have to do so many crunches.
Correct.
But also, if you want to follow us on Twitter, we're Weekly Planet Pod.
We're on Twitter.
We're on Gmail.
We're on Facebook.
Correct.
We're on Bandcamp with some audio commentaries.
Yep, yep, yep.
If you'd like to support the show, you can go to patreon.com slash MrSundayMovies.
Correct.
Where you can put in like a buck or two bucks a month or something like that.
Or a million bucks.
Or a million bucks.
What is it?
Once is $82 million, right?
Yeah, yeah. All we have to do is get that once. One time. No, I bucks. Or a million bucks. What is it? Once is $82 million, right? Yeah, yeah.
All we have to do is get that once.
One time.
No, it wouldn't let me set it.
It wouldn't let me set $82 million.
You have to click $82 one million times.
Correct.
Also, if you want to support the show by doing what you'd probably do anyway,
we've got an Amazon affiliate link in the episode description.
You just click on that.
It goes through a regular Amazon.
Buy what you're going to buy anyway.
Buy some graphic novels.
Buy Superforce on VHS.
Correct.
For Mason.
Buy it for me.
Buy it for me.
And you pay the same price
and we get a kickback somehow.
Yeah, it's pretty great.
Who knows?
Who knows why?
What else?
Thank you to the Brute and the Basilisk
and Rackham for our theme songs.
Love them.
Love them.
We're moving all our shirts over to Tee Public
in the process of doing that. Nice. I'll link that below. Some of them are them. We're moving all our shirts over to Tee Public. Okay, cool.
In the process of doing that.
Nice.
I'll link that below.
Some of them are there.
Ooh. Hopefully we can all be there.
Very nice.
At some point soon.
Mm-hmm.
Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod if you want to check the show.
Follow at The Weekly Planet on Twitter.
That's everyone.
That's Robert Collings.
Correct, correct.
There's a Reddit.
I should get on the Reddit.
I know, I know.
I won't say I'm going to get on the Reddit.
But it's one of those things where once I get in, it takes up all my time.
I used to be a big fan of the Something Awful forums,
and it would just take up all my time.
I was always clicking away and typing a little comment
and doing a little Photoshop.
People have got on the Reddit now,
how did you guys stumble across a Weekly Planet podcast on the Reddit?
Gypsy Curse.
Gypsy Curse.
Well, that's how we stumbled into it.
It's good to see a lot of people said they went through YouTube videos,
which I'm glad of that because I literally mentioned it in every video ever.
So it's paying off mostly.
Yeah.
It'd be bad if it wasn't at all.
Yeah, I know, right?
If one person was like, yeah, I got it through James' YouTube videos,
and there were 10,000 comments that were like, is it his what?
The what now?
The what?
The who?
Which one's James?
Great.
Oh, I was on an episode this week
of Movie Mania
with Bandit Incorporated
and a couple of his friends.
Very nice.
We talked about the summer,
sorry,
the upcoming spring season of movies.
Spring for us,
autumn for everybody else.
Bandit Incorporated,
if you're listening,
and if that is your real name,
I suspect it is
yep
you also asked if I'd be on
an episode a while back
on Twitter
and I lost the tweet
and I
it got
it disappeared in the
in the ether
and I'm like
oh I should respond to that
but no
no I'll be on a bloody episode
of something
maybe you won't be on for something
yeah
he's good blokes
they all are
they're good blokes
yeah
what else
that's about it I think
yeah I'm on an episode of Do Go On about Elvis Presley that's not out yet so I'll mention it when it's out Expertise. Trade. They're good blokes. Yeah. What else? That's about it, I think.
Yeah.
I'm on an episode of Do Go On about Elvis Presley that's not out yet,
so I'll mention it when it's out. I look forward to seeing it, Mason.
I look forward to bloody seeing it.
All right.
So, yeah, remember this Thursday.
Hopefully there'll be something be up.
Caravan of Garbage.
That's right.
Premiere.
If it's not up.
Big old premiere.
It's because it's not ready.
So, at Mr. Sunday Movie Say, where is it?
Where's my content?
Well, I'm not making it, but also I don't want to put it out
and then not
and then fall behind
on the other episodes
so I want to make sure
they're ready to go
so I can do one every Thursday
and if I can't
I'm not
pushing back a week
Brian Hurst on Twitter
says I like Cowboys and Aliens
there I said it
is it good
it's fine
great
I don't really remember it
nice
I remember it being
not as good as I want it to be.
Perfecto.
Summed it up nicely.
Yeah.
Thanks for listening, everybody.
Thanks for subscribing.
Subscribe when you get the extra content.
That's true.
Oh, yeah.
By the way, I will be putting it up on Patreon a little bit early.
Nice.
If I can.
Yeah, nice.
I mean, I will.
You don't have to.
You're going to get it regardless.
Do whatever you want.
Running a podcast is a bloody nightmare.
I say as someone
who does nothing
you know about the admin
I just show up late
I show up late every week
but it's a bloody nightmare
it's not a problem
imagine having to
plan episodes
and write things down
and do stuff
imagine that
it's a joy Mason
oh maybe you should
do some of it
it's a joy
no I wouldn't want to
deprive you of the joy
though would I
that'd be mean
that'd be the worst
thing I could do
don't take it away
from me
alright thanks everybody
grab that jam you guys
bye