The Weekly Planet - 162 Fantastic Beast & Where Are They Or Whatever (in the case)
Episode Date: November 21, 2016Fantastic Beasts Where Are They What Are They About (being in the case) is here! So we talk that as well as Star Wars casting, Ghost in the Shell, Marvel and Fox trading characters, The Inhumans comin...g to TV, Kong: Skull Island, Deadpool 2 gets a director and the introduction of a brand new segment. Thanks for listening!Filthy Casuals Podcast: https://goo.gl/n9zdkmFantastic Beasts Easter Egg Video: https://goo.gl/87QWP90:00 Caravan Of Garbage TBA3:05 Emilia Clarke in Star War5:35 Ghost In The Shell trailer10:13 Deadpool 2 gets a director12:17 Inhumans coming to TV15:58 Marvel and Fox trade19:19 HOT TOPICS QUICK NEWS25:37 Green Hornet reboot28:09 Kong Skull Island Trailer32:54 Fantastic Beasts Non Spoiler49:43 Fantastic Beasts Spoilers1:08:43 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:09:30 -1:14:43 Spoilers for Westworld1:18:04 Letters It’s Time For LettersBuy the Harry Potter Collection on Amazon: https://amzn.to/2nenOWHPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesMr Sunday Movies YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/lB90W2The Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind our T-Shirts here: https://goo.gl/q6gE9C Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet,
official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com, where we talk movies, comics, TV shows.
My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday.
With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason.
Star Wars?
Oh, Jesus.
He's carried it over.
Yep.
Don't know what it is.
I don't think there is any...
Oh, no, there is some Star Wars news this week.
Do you want it straight up?
Yeah, let's get it straight up.
Okay.
Amelia Clarke. Tell me what Star Wars is, and then tell me the news is some Star Wars news this week. Do you want it straight up? Yeah, let's get it straight up. Okay. Amelia Clarke.
Tell me what Star Wars is and then tell me the news related to Star Wars.
How do you explain Star Wars to somebody who's never seen Star Wars?
Everybody has a...
It's like a...
Because it's a cultural reference.
It's a touchstone...
Isn't it, though?
...of pop culture.
How do you explain that particular thing?
It's like explaining a tree or something like a better example.
Do you know what I mean?
Like a better example of a thing. Like a shrub. A shrubbery. Yeah, that's a a better example. Do you know what I mean? Like a better example of a thing.
Like a shrub, shrubbery.
Yeah, that's a much better example.
Isn't it though?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
But Emilia Clarke from Game of Thrones,
she's Daenerys Targaryen.
She's been cast in the Han Solo solo movie.
Han Solo?
Yeah, she is going to be Han Solo.
Lady Han Solo.
No, we don't know in what role in particular,
but sure, she's good.
She wasn't, look, she wasn't the best Sarah Connor.
I don't think she was right for that role.
All right.
Well, all right.
Okay.
If we're going to rank Sarah Connors
who've also been in Game of Thrones.
Sure.
She's second.
She's second.
Wow.
Not even number one.
Didn't you see?
Did you see?
Sarah Connor Chronicles.
Yeah, I thought Lena Headey was good. I thought she was a good Sarah sarah connor uh yeah no no i just didn't think it didn't didn't really
work for me but a lot of that movie didn't work mason i don't really think that's on her but no
i think that i think it's great any speculation you're a big fan of star wars lore you know you
read all of the books and the comics and you've read everything that came before in the in the
that's now gone to legends speculation Speculation time, Mason.
Oh, who's she going to be?
Yeah.
Young Princess Leia, but they don't meet.
Or they do meet.
They briefly cross paths.
I bet.
I bloody bet.
I doubt it.
No, I reckon it is.
You reckon?
Yeah.
Because also, he's a lot older than her.
He's like 10 years older than Princess Leia.
So I think Princess Leia would be like 14, 12 to 14.
She can play 14.
She couldn't?
Also, nobody cares about the timelines.
That's true.
You know what I mean?
I think people do, actually.
I think people care immensely about the timelines.
Oh, I mean I don't care.
Oh, you don't care.
Yeah, that's probably more accurate, yeah.
Or also casting people don't care about the timelines
is probably more accurate.
Somebody's brought up that Eleven,
the girl who played Eleven in Stranger Things,
should play young Princess Leia if they need her.
I can see it.
If you see the comparison,
they both look close enough like each other,
where that is completely possible.
Well, I was just going to say,
I feel now that the Star Wars casting people
certainly have a type now.
What do you mean?
Felicity Jones, Daisy Ridley.
Oh, right.
Yeah, good point.
You think there's somebody in charge who just loves brunettes, loves sassy brunettes.
Yep.
Okay then.
So you're saying mix it up.
Mix it up, Hollywood, for once in your life.
That's right.
Stop casting brunette women.
Bit of diversity.
Speaking of, can we go to the Ghost in the Shell news?
Oh, you've had enough Star Wars, have you?
No, do you have more Star Wars?
No, that's it.
Okay.
This happened just after we finished the show last week,
or maybe a day after.
Who fucking cares, Mason?
It was minutes after.
It was literally minutes.
Ghost in the Shell got a brand new trailer.
You know what?
Because it was so soon afterwards,
because we talked about the teaser, I think, last week.
And as soon as we stopped recording, I went,
oh, did I watch the wrong one?
And I spoke with some authority on the wrong thing.
Okay, fair enough.
But we did finally see it.
Yeah.
What did you think of it?
It looks great.
Yeah.
Except for that decloaking effect, which looks real cheap and awful.
It looks like a snippet from a music video from like 10 years ago.
Like a Michael Jackson music video.
Yeah, maybe, yeah.
Where he turns into a leopard or something.
Yeah, exactly right.
Sure. No, maybe, yeah. Where he turns into a leopard or something. Yeah, exactly right. Sure.
No, I can understand that.
But the rest of it, what a spectacular looking movie.
Yeah.
I'm really looking forward to it.
What I found most interesting, I think, about that clip, about the trailer,
is it's a world in which all advertising has become giant people on top of buildings.
And big holographic fish.
Mm-hmm, yeah.
Back to the Future 2 paved the way with Jaws 34 or whatever that was.
That's true.
Yeah.
But here's a question for you.
You've seen Ghost in the Shell.
I know you have because we watched it together once on a VHS perhaps
or maybe a DVD.
It would have been a VHS, I think.
I don't think so.
It would have been the mid-2000s.
I would have said it was a DVD.
It's not relevant.
But look, email in if you have an opinion on what we watched it on.
If you have some authority on what
we watched Ghost in the Shell on,
I maintain it was VHS. I reckon we're
probably having a throwback Thursday.
It's like, check this out, baby, and I rattled the VHS.
You can't rattle a DVD.
You really can't. It doesn't feel good to rattle.
You can break it up and put it in the case and rattle it.
That's true. Are you going to watch
the original Ghost in the Shell before going to see this oh i'd not thought about it till just now yeah um no me too
because i barely remember it probably because it was such a scratchy vhs copy oh yeah but uh or
dvd no i want to kind of go in kind of fresh i don't and i don't want to watch it and then
go and sit and be like oh that's different oh i don't like that yeah that's good i get the sense it's going to be basically the same but with
some yeah little narrative alterations like a race swap yep that thing is going to be in there
yeah yeah we've talked about all that before but uh no i'm really looking forward to it and if this
does well do you think we're going to get uh we're going to get some akira which was planned at one point oh i think we're just going to get a slew of of anime kind of well it is the next
thing to be mined isn't it it certainly is they've kind of had a go at it before but they
it's never been good i'm trying to think of a good example of one speed racer that dragon ball
movie yeah that was terrible have you seen seen that? No. It's like...
Look, as the biggest Dragon Ball Z fan, Mason...
I'm aware.
No, look, it's just really misguided and poorly cast,
and they change the characters in ways that are strange,
and Piccolo's good, I'll give it that.
Piccolo's the green one?
Yeah, James Masters plays him.
Okay, wow.
From Buffy. Spike, is he Spike?
Yeah. So that part is good. Okay, wow. From Buffy. Spike, is he Spike? Yeah.
So that part is good.
Okay.
And then there's also parts where,
because they took it from sort of the original Dragon Ball
where at the end Goku transforms into a giant gorilla.
And I don't know whether that's the kind of thing that people want.
Maybe people want to skip things forward to the Dragon Ball Z.
No, look, if comic books from the 1950s taught us anything,
you want to get people on seats, put a gorilla in there.
Well, they didn't put it in the trailer or the posters,
so that didn't work.
Word of mouth, man.
Word of mouth's going to spread.
Somebody turns into a gorilla in this movie.
When it turns into a really bloody...
You're going to want to check this out.
Who directed that?
I've got no idea.
I want to say Shyamalan, but no, he did the Avatar one, didn't he?
The Last Airbender.
Which actually is not an anime.
It's an American production.
But that was also apparently terrible.
I've got it on my hard drive because I want to watch it and be like,
how bad is this?
How bad is this?
Look, we've all got apocalypse scenario archives of movies and TV shows
that are ready to go.
For me, it's Sin City, A Dame to Kill.
Yes, it is.
I will get to it one day.
And for you, it's this Avatar movie.
Correct.
Anyway, great.
Goes in the shell.
Be a good one.
Or don't.
It's fine.
I have always pictured her sidekick as being Ron Perlman.
He's too old, though.
Yeah, I know.
You need a younger bloke.
I thought he looked great.
I thought he looked bloody dead on.
Is that somebody we're aware of?
No, I looked him up because I'm like, do I know this guy?
No, he's like some Dutch actor or something.
I don't know if that's...
Got some little googly eyes on him.
He's got some little googly eyes.
Googly eyes, eh?
Yeah.
Very good.
Good stuff.
Deadpool 2 has a director, apparently.
Here we go.
Cannot wait.
David Leitch.
He's one of the directors of John Wick.
Oh, that's right.
Okay, yeah.
All right.
Cool.
Cool, man. Yeah, that's right. Okay, yeah. All right. Cool. Cool, man.
Yeah, I like it.
He can clearly do action
unless the other guy
in this directing pair
has been dragging him
along this whole time,
Simon and Garfunkel style.
Maybe.
He's the oats.
He's the oats, right.
Maybe he's not...
What if he's not the action guy?
Maybe he was the director
responsible for all the
hilarious jokes in John Wick.
Yeah.
What joke?
There wasn't any.
I mean, unless you consider killing a dog funny.
Well, you know, it depends on how you were raised, I'd imagine.
But it's not really my thing, if I'm honest.
But yeah, good choice, though.
I guess so.
That's more kind of close quarters gunplay and hand-to-hand stuff than Deadpool's a lot of flips and swords and shit. I'd imagine That's more kind of Close quarters Gunplay And hand to hand stuff
Than Deadpool
With a lot of flips
And swords and shit
I'd imagine
Maybe he's versatile
I'm sure he is
Yeah
So that's
You know
I think it's a good get
At this last minute
Kind of
We need somebody to do this
Because we're starting
I think it's better than
Going get Brett Ratner
Because he'll do anything
For any amount of money
Yeah
However we want to do it
Yeah
And I guess Like in terms of funny,
I guess if Ryan Reynolds is still there going,
but if Ryan Reynolds is there sort of going,
okay, well, we need a joke here.
We need a funny bit here.
Then maybe that'll stay on track
even if the directors aren't particularly funny guys.
Because I think killing dogs is so funny. What what do you reckon how about we kill another dog
here okay what about this deadpool kills a dog here what do you what do you reckon about that
what do you reckon i've done i've done so much cocaine today uh anyway it's good yeah it's it's
a bloody it's good enough uh also apparently they're looking for a deadpool 3 director and
somebody else i'm presuming they just want to kind of see how this goes
before they sign him on to do the other one.
Maybe they'll get Tim Miller back.
Who knows?
But Deadpool 3 also might be X-Force.
True.
Or something.
Who knows, mate?
All right.
In TV news, Mason, let's skip over to the world of TV.
Oh, people want to know whether you've been keeping up with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
I'm like two behind.
So, no. behind. So no.
The answer's no.
Look, from a technical perspective, yes, the answer is no.
But I'm doing better than most seasons of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
But you weren't hating it.
You're like, I'm sticking with it.
Yeah.
Good.
The last episodes I saw, bloody Coulson had a bloody energy shield inside his prosthetic arm.
It was pretty great.
It's got a S.H.I.E.L.D. logo in it.
Yeah, no.
It's a S.H.I.E.L.D.
I think that was from last season as well, wasn't it?
Didn't watch last season.
Couldn't tell you.
I also couldn't tell you.
That was just a stab in the dark.
So ABC have also acquired the rights to the Marvel's Inhumans.
That's right.
And they're doing an Inhumans TV series,
which means we're not getting the Inhumans movie,
which means Vin Diesel is probably not going to be Black Bolt, which means it's probably not going to be very good.
Not because of the Vin Diesel thing, but just I just think...
No, no, because of the Vin Diesel thing.
I just think it will be kind of, I'm okay with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
I don't anything yet.
And I think that's probably what this will be because there's only so much you can do
with kind of primetime network, weird superhero stuff.
True.
Yeah.
But maybe they'll surprise me.
The reason I think this happened is because Ike Perlmutter,
who was in charge of all things Marvel,
he,
it was his dream to get the Inhumans movie to the big screen.
Notoriously bad bloke.
Yes.
Because he,
because they don't have the X-Men and he wanted to bury the X-Men.
Okay.
Not because he's some sort of deep, he has some sort of deep childhood love for the Inhumans.
It's just because he's like, we need another franchise.
All right.
So they've really kind of been pushing it in the comics.
And even on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., we've seen them.
And in the comics, all the famous X-Men are dead.
Yes, that's right.
Or missing.
Or old or whatever.
Yeah.
So I think now he got cut out of the filmmaking process
because Kevin Feige went straight
to the head of Disney.
We've talked about this before.
This is all allegedly,
but it probably happened,
allegedly,
but it definitely happened.
James is using air quotes.
So many air quotes.
Is this right?
Am I doing it right?
Yeah.
You do one,
then the other.
Oh no,
I don't know about that.
Oh no,
that's deeply unpleasant
in a way I can't explain.
He's doing one hand
and then the other hand. No. Because I'm catching it on the other end when it ends
oh you're okay with it now yeah okay okay good now that you've explained your process i think
i'm okay with it maybe that's a new thing guys if you're going to be air air quoting i did it
it's weird to look at yeah right see if guys if you're going to air quote something this week
do it the new way and see if people love it or hate it
Doesn't matter which hand you start with
But you do one at the start of the sentence
And one at the end of the sentence
And then explain why it works
Yep, uh-huh
Oh, that's unpleasant
It's unpleasant to look at
But it's kind of fun to do
Anyway, so he got cut out of the filmmaking process
Because Feige went to the head of Disney
Allegedly
Allegedly.
So he's only in charge of TV stuff.
So I think he went, fuck it.
Well, I'm still doing it.
I'm bringing it to TV.
So hang on.
How did... That's my speculation.
I guess so.
So what happened?
Like, how did the movie get cancelled?
It was...
Who was responsible?
I don't think they wanted to do it. Oh, I see. He see he was pushing it yeah i think he was the only one pushing it yeah okay
and uh that's that's that's what i think i think there's probably something in the works from
either fantastic four or some of the x-men or something and that's the reason why this is all
happening yeah i think they've got something else in the works that we don't know about maybe it's
more spider-man stuff or whatever i don't know but there's a reason they've kind of shunted this
aside you heard it here first guys it's either x-men or fantastic four or more spider-man stuff or whatever i don't know but there's a reason they've kind of shunted this aside you heard it here first guys it's either x-men or fantastic four or more
spider-man or something if it's anything we we called it no i think it's a fox property whatever
it is yeah i don't know you think they've licensed or you think they've bought it back well well
actually we've got another story here which ties into this because marvel apparently traded ego the
living planet for negasonic teenage war Oh, I read that on Instagram.
Instagram, did you?
It was a Marvel meme of sorts.
It was like Marvel fact, whatever.
And I'm like, almost certainly not true.
But if you've heard it on the internet.
Apparently it's true.
James Gunn spoke about it because he wrote Guardians of the Galaxy with Ego the Living Planet in mind.
It was in all his drafts and whatever.
And the movie would not have worked without it.
But he didn't know that they don't actually own that character so then fox
came to them and said hey we need we want to use negasonic teenage warhead in deadfall but we need
to change her appearance and powers and and we only need the name basically yeah yeah that's true
again because i think i think literally what happened in that movie as they said we need a
teenage character we can't use jubilee yeah and they just went to like
an x-men wiki or something and typed in teenage yeah we need a teenage character and that that
came up and they're like that'll do perfect because in the comic book she isn't she's in
a flight one page yeah which is fine i think it worked really well in the movie so but if fox make
any drastic changes apparently they need to go to marvel for for permission okay so in doing so
there was that swap.
And what are Fox going to do with fucking Ego the Living Planet?
Like turn him into a big cloud or some nonsense.
I want to see a planet with a big face.
Planet with a big face.
That's all I want.
If anybody can do it, it's bloody James Gunn.
Definitely.
Or the John Wick directors.
Whatever.
Yeah.
So which makes me think they are talking to each other.
Something's going on. Like I think are talking to each other something's going on
like
I think they talk to each other
more than we probably think
I'm not saying all of this
will pan out
but we're gonna get a Spider-Man
or whatever I said before
or any of those things
even though Spider-Man with Sony
do you think there was anybody
who was put on the
Inhumans movie team
like
like writers
or special effects guys
or whatever
for sure
and then they get the email
oh we're doing a TV series now oh no the special effects guys are whatever. And then they get the email, oh, we're doing a TV series now.
Oh, no.
The special effects guys are like, okay, put away the good stuff.
Break out the TV stuff.
Get out the hand cranks.
CGI machine.
Yep, yep.
Get out the green screen that's that unpleasant shade of green
where you can see the edges on it.
Put away the good one.
Put away the cashmere green screen. We're the polyester grain screen oh good stuff anyway whatever we're talking about
great i'm glad we're getting eager on the big planet that's the most important thing to be
yeah that's come out of all of this are the inhumans going to be on the moon they can live
on the moon probably well i think we're going to get apparently the story goes that we're going to
see the black bolt royal family version
well then they've got to be on the moon they've got to be on the moon because what what's black
bolt doing on earth i don't want to see him blowing up a city in in tv cgi with his voice
they can kind of do that all right now a little bit sometimes can't they a little bit just somewhat
i'd rather see him blow up a city on the moon yeah look i don't i don't disagree with you how
they're going to do the giant dog?
Game of Thrones style?
Where it doesn't really work?
Yeah, probably.
Do they just get a real big dog?
Do they just get the biggest dog they can find?
No, it's still not big enough. Because you need...
It's a specific type of dog, isn't it?
It's like a bulldog sort of thing.
Yeah, something like that.
Yeah.
And he's got an antenna on his head.
What's his name?
Where are they going to get that, Lockjaw?
Yeah, that's...
I don't know.
They're not going to do it, presumably.
Oh, they've got to have a dog.
I don't disagree with you.
It's got to be a giant dog.
I think the hair they can do for Medusa.
Medusa?
Yeah.
But we'll see.
Okay, I've got some things that have stalled or cancelled.
This is called Hot Topics Quick News New Segment.
It's called Hot Topics Quick News New Segment. It's called Hot Topics Quick News New Segment.
Here we go.
Somebody write that down because we'll forget it by next week.
Quick sticks.
Dean Devlin, you may know.
Are we going to use it?
Can you put in a whip crack sound between all the bits of news?
No.
Look, I'll think about it, but I probably won't.
Okay, cool.
Because when I go back to edit this, and by that I mean listen to make sure it recorded,
I'll need to then go and I'll hear this,
then I'll go, ugh,
and I'll have to go and download the sound of a whip cracking noise.
That's true.
And then put it in.
Look, knowing me, I won't.
Okay, I'll add some whip cracking noises.
Okay, good.
Let me point when the bit of news has ended.
Yep.
Like when we're finished talking about it,
I'll add the whip cracking noise.
Love it.
It's weird that you brought that whip with you today
What a coincidence
Look it's nearly summer time
It's time for whip crack demonstrations
Of weird ute musters
You go to a truck convention
And you chop a block of wood
Unless you've one chop in the block of wood
You shear a sheep
You shear a sheep
And then you do some double whip cracking
Is that only an Australian thing?
No, surely not.
I hope not.
We didn't invent the whip crack.
I love a whip.
We perfected it.
Yeah, that's certainly true.
Anyway, hot topic, hot news, whatever this is called.
Dean Devlin says that he's the producer on Independence Day and a bunch of other stuff.
He says the Stargate reboot remake isn't happening.
Presumably because Independence day resurgence was wasn't
very good and people hated it and they couldn't get richard dean anderson or the the other the
guy james spader kurt russell russell they couldn't get anybody back yeah either movie or tv wise yeah
and people are sick of stargate apparently so well the series has a lot of big fans i like sg1
yeah yeah but uh so i this is i didn't say why but this is definitely because of independence day Apparently so. Well, the series has a lot of big fans. Unlike SG-1. Yeah, yeah.
But this is, they didn't say why,
but this is definitely because of Independence Day.
I think if Independence Day resurgence had have done well,
we would have got Stargate and bloody Armageddon.
Armageddon and Fastgate. Yeah.
Cleopatra 2525.
Dark Angel.
Yeah.
They all would have come back.
Wait, how many more can we name? How many more terrible properties can we, Sliders would have come back. Wait, how many more can we name?
How many more terrible properties can we...
Sliders would have come back.
Right.
Would have brought back Sliders.
Earth 2.
Earth 2 would have come back.
Oh, no.
Oh, what a...
Yeah.
What a time, eh?
Magical.
High concept, low budget, 90s sci-fi.
They would have done a TV version of Leonard Nimoy's Primortals,
which is about the intelligent dinosaur man.
Dinosaur man, yeah.
Good stuff.
Anyway, great.
I'm kind of happy.
Give it a rest.
Maybe bring it back as a TV show again at some point.
The Last of Us.
Wait.
Oh, sorry.
The Last of Us.
Quick news.
Quick.
Quick sticks.
Getting into the news.
Hot news.
Quick time.
All right.
The Last of Us has Stalled apparently The movie version
Sam Raimi was producing it
And he says it's kind of
Not really happening at the moment
Not that it's cancelled
Because Logan snuck in first
Well it seems that way
Yes
Stole all the ideas
Yeah yeah
And also Last of Us
Does it need to be a movie?
No
It's one of those things where
Have you played it?
Yeah
I mean not all of it
You should
It's bloody magnificent mate
Do you have a
You know a PS3 or PS4 I have both copies Because it came with my PS4 played it yeah i mean not not all of you should it's bloody magnificent mate oh did you ever you
know i'm a ps3 or ps4 i have both copies because it came with my ps4 can i just get both copies
and rub them together yeah sure yeah in some sort of look i'll tell you what i'll go into my
backyard and i'll see if i can create fire with them and that will that that's yeah that's about
yeah sure so that's kind of i'm'm indifferent to that. Well, look, again, video game movie,
probably going to be terrible.
We say this about every single one of these
and they've got to be right.
When's Assassin's Creed out?
Mid-December, I want to say.
Okay, right.
It's a story that is...
I think it's a week after Star Wars.
Anyway, so we go on.
Great, good pick, guys.
Way to get buried by Star Wars.
Nice one.
I'm going to look that up while you're talking, but God.
But just, you know, not only is it a video game,
it's a video game
with a huge storyline
that they're going to compact down
into two hours
because they don't know
if it's going to be successful
and going to make a franchise
or whatever.
So they're going to have to
shrink it down.
They're going to lose
all the nuance.
They're going to make versions
of the characters
that people don't like.
Unless they just get Josh Brolin
because that's pretty much
who he is.
And Ellen Page.
Is Ellen Page there?
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay, so it says the initial release is December 14th,
which is like two days before Star Wars, but that's the Hollywood release.
Okay.
But then it really comes out December 21st.
So there you go.
Just in time for Christmas.
Just in time.
That's what I...
You know, they didn't make an Assassin's Creed game this year
because they were doing this.
They're like, we've been churning these out,
and some are good and some are not.
Sure.
But this year we're going to focus on...
I think they made some side-scrolly stuff,
which apparently wasn't very good,
and this is their big push for this year.
Look, we're going to stop making the video game this year.
We're going to focus on the parts of the video game
that nobody liked, the stuff in the future.
Oh, God.
Also, can you get Kanye West on the phone?
We want to talk to him.
We're going to look.
But then think about it.
The guys doing the video game, they're like, guys,
pack away the jumping into a big bale of hay video game effects.
Now we're going to do it at the movies.
Well, they did it.
They do the jumps for real.
You probably saw that feature, eh?
I did, yeah.
Good stuff. Yep, good. Hot ew, did it. They do the jumps for real. You probably saw that feature, eh? I did, yeah. Good stuff.
Yep, good.
Hot news, so hot. Ow!
Hot quick news.
It's not that quick, really, is it?
The Crow has moved production
studios, which leaves the
future of the franchise in jeopardy.
Is the director and Jason Momoa
still attached?'m like not who
knows just make it or don't just stop stop with this but you know what if jason momoa is not the
crow that means potentially anyone out there they could be the crow yes we're all back in everybody's
back in folks anybody could be the crow just like in the future everybody's going to be famous for
15 minutes correct in the future everybody's going to get a crack at being the crow and i say yes
vengeance yes i have vengeance on my enemies that's the end of hot quick news
ah news was so hot ah that was so hot and quick i've got to go to the emergency room briefly. Edit points. Ah, so hot. How was
the emergency room? It was good. Great. I'm glad you're back. A little ice pack. Yeah.
I just sat here for five hours, but I didn't drive you. No, I was going to say. Gavin O'Connor,
who directed The Accountant with Ben Affleck, which is apparently pretty good. Okay. And
Warrior. Did you ever see Warrior, the MMA movie? No. I'm not an MMA fan.
I'm not against it.
If you want to pin a man to the floor and punch him in the head
until he bleeds everywhere, hey, man, that's your prerogative.
Yeah.
I'm not against it.
I mean, do it in a ring.
Don't do it in the octagon, man.
Don't do it in the street.
Don't take it on the streets, yeah.
But he's going to be directing a reboot of The Green Hornet.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Cool, I think.
Hornet. Oh yeah, that's right.
Cool, I think.
I don't think there's been enough time between
the Seth Rogen
funny one and this one. And when I say
I don't think there's been enough time,
I don't know how much time has passed.
I want to say 2011. It might have been 10 years
that's still not enough time. Right.
Did you like that movie? No.
It was 2011.
Same year as Green Lantern.
What are they doing?
Well, they both didn't do well.
It didn't really matter, did it?
Do you think, because we always get the sense that money people and producers in Hollywood always get the wrong end of the stick
in terms of what worked and what didn't in the movie.
Like if there's an action movie comes out, they're like,
well, there was a dog in that scene, so every movie should have dogs in it.
Do you think the failure of Green Hornet and Green Lantern made them go, don't put green
in a title?
It won't work.
Not whoever's behind this, this bold visionary who's bringing back the Green Hornet.
Warner Brothers pushed back Green Lantern to like 2020 to give it some space, but no,
this is going to, I mean, who knows how far this is down the line.
You know what?
The action in Green Hornet's okay, and the car's sweet.
All right. Those things are true.
And I really like the director
because he did Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
or whatever.
Apparently he was like,
nah, I hated this.
He also did The Science of Sleep
and Mood Indigo.
Both movies we haven't seen.
Yep.
Was that after Green?
Science of Sleep was 2006
and Mood Indigo was 2013 and Microbe and Gasoline was 2015.
Huh.
I don't know anything about this guy.
They sound very indie.
They certainly do.
Don't know about that.
Anyway, good on him.
Don't know about movies with thoughts and emotions and themes and feelings.
Gross.
Last bit of news, Mason.
I made a bloody movie where a guy shoots a missile at a speed camera. Yeah, man. That was pretty good. It was fine. Last bit of news, Mason. I made a bloody movie where a guy shoots a missile
at a speed camera.
Yeah, man.
That was pretty good.
It was fine.
Last bit of news.
Remember when Seth Rogen
got all super buff
to be in Green Hornet?
Vaguely.
Why bother?
Well, he sort of did.
He slimmed down,
but yeah,
he talked that up for years,
like how he was getting in shape
and it was going to be
wicked good.
And it was...
Christoph Waltz was in it.
Yeah, he was the bad guy.
He had two guns.
He had two guns.
Anyway.
Kong, Skull Island has a brand new trailer.
Speaking of gorillas and a thing.
Yeah, I guess so.
In what sense?
Oh, King Kong is a gorilla.
Yeah, no, he is.
But what was the thing before that?
Oh, it was something about comic book 50s.
Oh, from way back when we said that many, many minutes ago.
I was hoping this King Kong news would be earlier on
and then we could have segued into it.
Well, I didn't know you were going to do that.
No, that's true.
Kong Skull Island new trailer.
What do you think?
It looked like Apocalypse Now.
I feel most of that we've seen before,
but I felt it was very much like Apocalypse Now except...
Monsters. Monsters, yeah. Yeah, you against that? No, I'm in favour of that. I seen before, but I felt it was very much like Apocalypse Now except... Monsters.
Monsters, yeah.
Yeah, you're against that?
No, I'm in favour of that.
I think it looks great.
And again, it did have that authentically 1970s look about it.
It had the colour and the light.
I don't need to see King Kong climb a building in the 30s and then be sad and take 40 minutes to fall off,
like happened in that other King Kong movie.
I think there's a good movie in Peter Jackson's King Kong movie.
Just take out the boat bit.
Maybe shoot him quicker on the top of the...
You didn't even see him hit the ground, man.
You didn't even see him hit the ground.
What are they doing?
I don't know.
I'd not...
I'd finish watching by then.
Okay, sure.
I had no idea.
Maybe we can do another Throwback Thursday or whatever.
Get the VHS.
Nope.
Because you don't see him for like 40 minutes, right?
Yeah.
This one, apparently, they're like, no, he's like front and center.
Great.
So that's really good.
Here's the question, though.
Here's the question.
Yes.
Is he big enough to fight Godzilla?
No.
Hey, how big do you think he is?
He's bigger.
But he's not that much bigger.
No.
He's slightly bigger than the last one.
Yeah.
And he's more upright.
He's more proud, maybe.
Maybe that's what that is.
Maybe that's true, yeah.
No, but there's a bit in the trailer where he sort of rises up
from some sort of rocky outcropping or something,
and there's a person there.
Because when you think of classic Godzilla,
a damsel in distress can fit in his hand.
Comfortably.
So snug.
That's right, but I think he could fit like two damsels in distress
in his hand in this one comfortably.
So he's a little bit bigger, but he's not.
Again, I don't think...
He can hold a helicopter in one hand.
That's true.
So he's that big.
So he's probably knee-leg height.
I thought you were going to say knee-high to a horse.
Yeah, what if he was just small?
What if they're like, we've come to this island,
there's a really small gorilla.
How small?
Knee-high to a horse.
Oh, okay.
He rules this island, this tiny gorilla. How small? The idle horse. Oh, okay. He rules this island.
This tiny gorilla.
He's real feisty.
You never know what he's going to do.
There's also other creatures in it.
Some kind of John C. McGinley or John C. Reilly calls him.
It's John C. Reilly, isn't it?
He got the beard.
John Goodman?
No, the guy who's like, I've been on the island this whole time. I'm crazy. John C. Reilly, isn't it? He got the beard. John Goodman? No, the guy who's like,
I've been on the island this whole time, I'm crazy.
John C. Reilly's in it.
You just watched the trailer.
I saw you watched it.
That's true.
Yeah.
Anyway, he's there.
John C. McGinley's the guy from Scrubs.
Yes.
John C. Reilly's the other guy.
He's Steve Ruhl.
Yes.
Who's that?
The guy from Tim and Eric.
Oh, right.
Okay, yeah, I know him.
He's confused and he's got glasses or something.
Correct.
He's the guy from Guardians of the Galaxy.
Yes, I know who he is.
John C. Reilly.
Yes.
Mr. Cellophane in Chicago.
Brothers.
He's in Step Brothers.
Step Brothers, yeah.
Not Brothers, that's the Tobey Maguire one.
Anyway, so there's other monsters that he calls skull creatures or something.
They live in the bloody ground and they come out and they kill
all the King Kongs
Triceratops skull
yeah that's a bit of that
I get the feeling
that he's been there
since World War 2
like he's a vet
and he's just
kind of stayed
on the island
or some version of that
I might be wrong
I love an undiscovered
island it's full of
weird stuff
me too man
dinosaur island
I had no interest
in this but every time
they released like
a piece of casting news
or information
or the era it's set,
I was like, oh no, this sounds great.
And it looks really good.
I kind of hope, and I'm sure it's all done already
and they haven't done this,
but I would love it if it was presented
as if it was a film from the 70s.
So it starts up and we get just one of those
real dull 1970s title sequences
where it's just like Kong, Skull Island.
And then we get, yeah, exactly.
But and we get literally all the, we get all the.
Every cast member.
Every cast member and all the.
Shot in stereoscope or whatever.
All that sort of stuff.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Great.
Godzilla sort of started like that.
Yeah.
The way, because that kind of threw back to the original ones where it was just
watching, what was it?
It was watching like test footage of nuclear weapons and shit
and whatever, yeah.
Well, it might, Mason.
I mean, now that I think...
I hope it starts in New York City, baby.
Now that I think about the thing that I've just explained,
it sounds real boring and people would walk out.
But you could do a variation on that.
Just tighten it up a little.
Yeah, that's right.
You know what I mean?
All the cast and crew, put them in there.
Just one block. They don't really, that's right. You know what I mean? All the cast and crew, put them in there. Just one block.
They don't really do that
that much anymore, do they?
No.
They don't put the cast and crew
up front.
Anyway,
it's another here, not there.
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But you know what? It's sunrisechallenge.ca. the case yeah cello tape cello tape and overseas in the u.s some elastoplasts over the over the
same yeah they wouldn't have got out and everything would have been fine get a better case mate
actually that's not true everything wouldn't have been fine because of a reason we'll probably get
to in spoilers no doubt uh so before we get into it uh we always do spoilers sorry non-spoilers
and spoilers i'll time code it so if you haven't seen it you can skip over that bit and we'll mark
it very clearly when when that's going to happen that being said sometimes we just
accidentally spoil things sometimes we do sometimes we'll finish talking about the movie and then we'll
go to another segment and then in that segment i'll just spoil something for the movie that's
right and i won't edit it out uh anyway uh let's talk box office. Okay. The big picture.
Apparently it's going to have a $75 million-ish opening weekend in the US, which is solid,
but it's below every other Harry Potter movie.
Yeah.
And also a majority of the audience that are going to this are grown up people.
Kids aren't going to it.
When I saw it, I'm like, I wouldn't bring a kid to this.
Fair enough.
There's some scary shit in it for a kid.
You know what I mean?
I do.
Did you feel that same way?
Yes, I did.
Look, I enjoyed this more than probably most of the Harry Potter movies.
Well, because you've seen them out of order.
They don't make sense to you.
Yeah, but also this felt like this is the grown-ups in the Harry Potter universe
doing grown-up stuff.
Yeah.
And I don't have to deal with idiots and Hermione explaining very basic concepts and ideas.
Sure.
It's people getting on with it.
People who know what they're doing.
But as the Harry Potter movies go on, this feels like a progression from the last one.
Yeah.
Because they start as kids' movies and then they progress into everybody's murdering each other.
Right, yeah.
By the end, trolls are smashing dragons or whatever happens,
whatever goes down in those movies.
Anyway, so it's going to do okay.
And I think that's fine because even though it does carry the Harry Potter name,
it is the start of a new franchise.
Yep.
And a lot of people who are either fans of Harry Potter might not rush out.
And if you're not a fan, you're like, well, why would I see this at all?
Right, if you don't understand the context or what have you.
And I don't think you even need to know any of that to see this
because you know kind of bits and pieces,
but you seem to get it by the look on your face.
Yeah.
Look, as someone who appreciates the lore and the universe,
the lore and the world of the Harry Potter universe, and the, like the world of the Harry Potter universe,
but I don't have any particular affection for it.
Yeah.
And as someone who has an appreciation for the world and the law of
Dr.
Who,
but doesn't have any particular,
you kind of hate it.
But if you mash them together,
you get fantastic base and we,
where to find them.
Where have they gone?
Yeah.
In the case generally.
Cause he's Matt Smith.
Yes,
he is. Well, somebody tweeted me that generally because he's Matt Smith yes he is
well somebody tweeted me that
I wish I knew
yeah
he is
this is
if J.K. Rowling
because J.K. Rowling wrote this
yes first screenplay
if
if
if she'd been asked
to write a Doctor Who
episode
and maybe she has been
it would be this movie
yeah fair enough
yeah
no I can't argue with that
foppish hair
running about
he's got a waistcoat
and a coat and a bloody bow tie.
Yep.
He's got a stick.
He does anything.
He's got a box.
It's bigger on the inside than the outside.
Yeah, yeah.
He's got a companion.
Yep, sure.
All that.
All of those things are true.
He's British.
He's British.
We seem to have a very good understanding of this universe, which makes me feel comfortable
in asking you, what did you think the story was?
Oh, no.
All right.
Hang on.
Let me think think should we continue
this segment is it even a thing no people love it people love the fact people love the fact that
i've just seen a movie and i'm supposed to be aware of what happened in it but when i'm put
on the spot i have no idea what happened in it let me think okay so newt newt scott amanda
played by the mugging less than i thought he would eddie redmayne i thought so too yeah this movie
he arrives he's from England, magical England.
Yep.
He's from the Ministry of Magic or whatever.
No, he's just a traveling bloke.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
He arrives in New York City.
Forget about it.
According to him, he wants to bloody, he wants to buy a fantastic beast.
Yep.
That is in New York.
Mm-hmm.
And he's come with a case full of other fantastic beasts.
You don't know how many initially.
There's quite a few.
There's a few.
Anyway, so I go on.
But then what happens?
But there's a bloody monster loose in the city.
Yeah.
What's going on there?
Is it his fault?
Did he let a beast out of the case?
Did he?
Yeah, some.
Yeah.
Yeah, some.
It's a little bit ambiguous
it's two pronged
isn't it
it's a two pronged
it's a two pronged
beast attack
in this
in this movie
absolutely
but then the bloody
the bloody magical
New York magic cops
get involved
yep
there's a lady
yep
there's a Colin Farrell
Colin Farrell
yeah
he's a bad bloke
isn't he
well
well is he or is he not Mason
we'll get into that in spoilers okay cool well you mentioned well done thank you He's a bad bloke, isn't he? Well. Well, is he or is he not, Mason?
We'll get into that in spoilers.
Okay, cool.
Well, you mentioned... Well done.
Thank you.
Perfect.
Wasn't it though, right?
Yeah, they should...
They should hire me for At The Movies,
that TV show that isn't on anymore.
So you mentioned Eddie Redmayne.
I thought he was going to kind of...
The whole way.
My fantastic Eddie Redmayne impression.
People have been looking forward to it, I feel. So I i'll just do a bit throughout the episode i have no problem with
that in the trailer he's all yeah i'm lee evans in mouse hunt and but he doesn't really do that
no the voice does that's not his natural kind of voice or cadence but the way he does it it feels
natural there's a little bit of uh there's a little bit of weird animal mating
pantomime at a certain point so weird yeah but that's you know it's supposed to be ridiculous
yeah yeah yeah absolutely no i i thought he i thought he did really well to to carry this
movie and because look he's got a lot of flack for like jupiter ascending because i haven't
seen it but apparently it's it's it's incredibly bad and he's incredibly bad in it yeah have you
seen it no yeah anyway it's on the list but uh isn't it though but no i i thought he was a very
believable character and kind of quietly confident and sure of himself but not in a way that was kind
of like look at me i'm a fucking great look i'm the best at everything do you know what i mean
james was just doing the confident marching walk. He's doing his arms.
Which I do at the same time.
No, that's skiing. Look at me.
No, that's skiing.
He's not skiing.
But you know what I did like about him as well?
He's not a particularly good wizard.
Like, he's okay.
He's as good as anybody else.
But his particular skill is magical beasts.
And not only does he have an understanding of them,
he can use them to his advantage in certain situations.
I like that a lot.
He's got them on him.
Yeah, right.
Like a kiss.
Some small ones, not some big ones.
Yeah, that's right.
That he can kind of implement to help him out.
I enjoyed that.
And I also enjoyed that they were used logically.
Yes.
And they're foreshadowed that he's got them.
Yeah.
And he doesn't spring one out of no way.
He doesn't have a bloody time turner.
Sure.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's also what I like.
But he's not, that's the thing, he's not a bad wizard.
No.
Like, he's...
No, he knows what he's doing.
Yeah, his skill is curating these beasts, but he's also, he's a competent wizard.
There's no point where he's like, oh, I don't understand.
What's the stick that I've got here?
Oh, it's a war.
Oh, everybody gets the war.
You choose.
Yeah.
He's gone through school. Yeah., it's a war. Oh, everybody gets the war. You choose it. He's gone through school.
He lived through a war.
He's been traveling the world, like, grabbing these beasts and whatnot.
He's got that teleport dash that they can all do.
They didn't have to explain it.
Is that what it is?
That's what it's called.
You can just do it.
Just do it.
It's fine.
See, these are the things that they kind of rolled out in Harry Potter over a series of films.
And by this time, they're just like, this is everything that you know.
That being said, I think even if you hadn't seen any Harry Potters, you would get what is happening here.
I did think there was some stuff that they introduced in this, which I'll talk about in spoilers, which is kind of like, what?
As someone who kind of has a fairly good understanding of the universe.
But then again, there's a lot like maybe the stuff that kind of will unfold,
you know,
as,
as the series progresses,
because you,
you having seen some of the Harry Potter movies out of order,
like some of them in order.
Okay,
cool.
I think I've seen all of them except the last one or two.
Right.
So some of the stuff didn't make sense to you until you saw other ones.
Then you're like,
Oh,
that's why that is that.
Is that,
we talked about that a few weeks ago.
Yeah.
Why not?
Sure.
Good.
So we did.
Who else is in it? He is. I didn't think't think his his goofy friend was annoying as i thought he would
be great he was kind of endearing yep pretty good bloke he just wanted to be a pretty good baker
that's right the love interest was interesting and her sister queenie yeah she could read minds
and whatnot she is apparently because i'd not i she's a singer or something she's a singer and
she's a i think she's written tv episodes oh wow like she's a bloody all-rounder two prongs yeah yeah okay
fair enough yeah yeah so no i thought everybody was kind of super well cast i tell you this so
at the start here we go when everybody was another type of james james's famous segment i'll tell you
this though i didn't do this right mate no but i didn't i didn't love it yes which again i'll
talk about more in spoilers but this is a bit that I did settle into
when they get there it's very kind of like
fake King Kong
Peter Jackson New York where everyone's like
hey look at me I'm a
New York guy and everybody's
doing that and it's a lot of that
and I'm like oh this is going to wear thin real soon
this pantomime version of
1920s New York or whatever
it's like oh this is very grating.
But then it kind of calms down a bit.
Hey, I'm going to the bank to get my dollarinos.
Yeah, that's right.
Exactly.
But did that bother you at all?
Oh, really?
No.
What a fun world.
Yeah.
That's my people.
Aggressive, cartoonish New Yorkers.
I love them.
Good stuff.
Is villain something we should cover more in the spoiler section?
Well, there's people at the ministry who are kind of after him.
It's not called the ministry.
It's called MACUSA.
It's the American version.
Yeah, I didn't like that at all.
Nah, weird, isn't it?
Also, I didn't like them referring to people who can't use magic as nomadges.
Yeah, it's weird, isn't it?
Look, JK Rowling can do whatever she wants.
Yeah, she's very rich.
She's richer than you by a long shot.
You wouldn't even get a fraction of the money that she's got in your life.
You could save up for 10 lifetimes and she'd still buy and sell you like you were nothing,
like you're just a pile of garbage.
Anyway, sorry, guys.
No, that's all right.
Man, my wealth is bloody knee-high to a JK Rowling in terms of wealth.
Yeah, I don't know.
Nomadge doesn't seem like it is a term that would evolve organically.
Do you think muggle is?
Yes.
Because it sounds like-
It's not just because you've heard, you know it?
No, muggle's easy to say, and it seems like a word that
may be evolved from a different word.
Yeah.
Muggle, mud, something like that, but nomadge.
Muggaloscopy.
Yeah. In fact, nomadge, that, but no madge. Mugglescopy. Yeah.
In fact, no madge, if anything,
sounds like a word a British person would come up with
that an American person would say,
which is absolutely true because J.K. Rowling wrote it.
Yeah.
But if anything, it sounds more British because it's like no madge.
No madge.
No.
None of that.
What's madge up to?
Who knows?
Nothing or something.
Yeah, fair enough.
There's also theem kind of witch
hunters who has carried there's a lot of lore in this which is kind of background to this universe
we we get hints hints at which i kind of liked the reason why there's a segregation between the
magical and non-magical community which there isn't in the english yeah there is that divide
where they don't the muggles don't know a lot about magic,
but here it's very clear-cut where you don't interact with people who want magic.
Yeah, you can't date a wizard, can't date a non-wizard.
Yeah, exactly.
Do you think that's a topical thing, Mason?
That's about racism and whatnot?
Kind of, yeah.
Yeah.
I thought there was a bit of that on gun control with the wand as well.
You need a permit in the US to have a wand.
Yeah, that's right.
I think there's a few little things that they kind of,
there's a bit of a permit in the u.s to have a one there's like i think there's a few little things that they kind of that you kind of it's a bit of social commentary there was a little bit on there uh but lgbt a little bit of all that stuff yeah exactly a lot of issues a lot of issues
mason that's the world we live in all this magical world isn't it's both parallels uh so there's all
there's these salem witch hunters which they seem to know that magic exists yep it's not just like
they suspect.
Did you get the idea that they knew for sure?
Or were you like, are they just taking a punt at this?
Oh, that's a good question.
Because apparently they were supposed to know.
Yep.
I read that you were supposed to get the idea that they knew for sure that magical people exist.
I think they know, but they don't know to the extent at which they're real.
Right.
Like maybe they've seen somebody appear and disappear.
Yeah.
And to that extent, they think, oh, magic is the work of the devil.
Yeah.
But they don't know that people can rebuild a building with a wave of the hand or do anything.
Rebuild anything at any point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is the year of magicians putting buildings back together with a wave of the hand.
Boy, is it.
Yeah.
Boy, is it.
Yeah.
I think work better in this as opposed to Doctor Strange.
Okay, fair enough.
Yeah.
So the lore of the universe you enjoyed.
That's good.
I'm glad you're into it.
Some of it, for me, not so much.
The monsters, Mason, they're in the case.
Some of them got out.
They're in the case, yeah.
Can we spoil the case or is that something we shouldn't really touch on?
That was a big reveal for me.
I'm like, oh, that's awesome.
Like what's going on in that case?
You know what? Let's just say, because it's in the trailer, you can go know what let's just say because it's in the trailer you can go in the case yeah there's enough
room for some people to go in the case yeah okay can we talk about that more in depth now yeah
yeah sure why not okay fair enough this is not really a spoiler but it's like it's a zoo in there
yeah i didn't really get the sense of how big it really was because sometimes it looked like
partitioned kind of segments for different creatures another time you see one run in from the distance yeah okay so i wasn't sure about the
scale in particular but that was i thought that was amazing the way they did that and the way
they'd segment off segment segmentated segments of the different creatures and different climates and
yeah and whatnot i thought that was incredible i think the idea behind it is design-wise,
and I think it was pretty incredible,
is that when you look at a piece of the environment in the case,
it looks like a kind of a movie set.
It's just kind of like there's some jungle wallpaper
that's been set up on a wooden structure.
But when you actually go into that environment, it seems real.
Right.
Okay.
Sure.
So like if you look at, you know, there's a snow part.
Yeah.
And if you look at it from far away, it's like a snow, it's a curtain.
Yeah.
Like it's been drawn onto, or printed onto curtains.
Yeah.
But when you go in there, it's real.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
All right.
I can get that.
Because Harry Potter, they love a bloody thing that's bigger on the inside,
in a Doctor Who kind of way.
But no, that for me was the most magical part,
like the bit that I was most impressed.
I'm like, that's a good use of using stuff that we know exists in this universe
in a creative way.
If you go into the case and the case locks, how do you get out?
You don't.
But it happens.
It bloody, bloody happens.
Yeah.
He didn't get out until they opened it. No, didn't it happen again? Like the first time, we'll get to later. It bloody happens. Yeah. He didn't get out until they opened it.
No, didn't it happen again?
Like the first time?
We'll get to later.
Yeah, sure.
Okay, right.
We will.
Look, I'll let a lot of stuff slide,
but I won't let slide irresponsible locking practices, all right?
I don't disagree with you.
Let's quickly talk special effects before we move into spoilers.
Pretty good. Pretty good.
Pretty good.
On the whole.
Do you have a favorite beast?
The Niffler?
I don't know any of their names.
That's the one who's stealing all the stuff.
It looks like a platypus.
It's a platypus.
It's a platypus.
Yeah.
Platypus with a big old tongue.
Yeah.
Little jewels in there.
Maybe the one that turns invisible?
That one's pretty good.
What about the little stick man?
Stick man was good
A little bit of Groot
Shades of Groot
Yeah yeah
He had some skills didn't he?
That's right
He could pick a lock and whatnot
Yeah he was cool
Probably not that brain eating bird
What?
The bird
The green one
The blue and green bird
That eats brains?
Apparently
I did not hear that
There's a line in it
Where he's like
Don't eat that guy's brains
Swooping evil
That's what it's called
Huh
Jesus
Eats brains It's called swooping evil He's got that on him You mean the one that's like a don't eat that guy's brains. Swooping Evil. That's what it's called. Huh. Jesus. Eats brains.
It's called Swooping Evil.
He's got that on him.
You mean the one that's like a yo-yo?
Yeah.
Bloody hell.
Flies about.
Yeah, I know it.
Yeah.
I saw the movie.
All right.
Yeah.
What about like in terms of there was a lot of, there's a black cloud of smoke.
There's a lot of city destroying effects.
Yep.
Was that kind of stuff?
I mean, we've seen it before, obviously.
We have.
Do you think that's going to be the latest trend?
Because we've had swarms of giant robots.
Yep.
Then we have just a guy who outsmarts everyone.
Do you think after that, they're like,
well, we have to ramp it up to giant black cloud of destruction?
But potentially.
Yeah.
I think it might be the new thing.
I hope it's not.
That for me was also like...
But then maybe we get incredible strides
in Big Black Cloud of Death special effects.
There's only so much you can do.
So the next time we'd see Galactus,
he's still a swarming cloud of death again.
No, he needs to be a big bloke.
He needs to be a big bloke with a big purple helmet.
I know.
I don't need that.
All right, let's talk spoilers.
But best movie ever?
I'd say best movie ever.
I had a real good time with this one.
I enjoyed it.
When did you see it?
What day did you see it?
Saturday?
Saturday.
Sorry, yesterday.
Cool, good stuff.
All right.
Is that important?
No, I just was curious when you went and saw it.
Does it affect your viewing experience?
Very much so.
Oh.
No, that's fine.
Okay, spoilers.
Spoiler alert.
All right.
Johnny Depp.
Spoiler alert.
Ooh, so hot.
Ooh, hot spoilers.
Johnny Depp was Colin Farrell
yeah
just keep
I'd rather
hate that
I'd rather it just be
Colin Farrell
yeah
it's fine
why couldn't Colin Farrell
I think Colin Farrell
would make a great
Grindelwald
yeah
what I thought was
interesting in this movie
there seemed to be a lot
that haircut works
on one of them
yeah it's Colin Farrell
yeah he looks great
yeah
isn't it interesting
that that hairstyle
is back baby
yeah big time.
What era was this set in?
It was like late 20s.
26.
Okay, right.
That makes sense.
Yeah, I'd much rather it be Colin Farrell.
I'm sick to death of Johnny Depp.
Get out of our movies, mate.
His little mustache.
He had like one line and it was...
What did he even say?
Something weird and vague.
And he doesn't also look like... Oh, it's going to be... Because there's going to be four Something weird and vague. Yeah. And he doesn't also look like...
Oh, it's going to be...
Because there's going to be
four more movies or whatever.
Yeah.
There's going to be
a serious mug off
between Eddie Redmayne
and Johnny Depp.
Well, that's the thing.
Apparently the next...
On a big rolling thing.
The next movies,
there's going to be
less Eddie Redmayne.
He's going to be in them.
Oh.
But it's going to be...
It's going to shift towards
Grindelwald's rise to power
and then Dumbledore
stepping in to be like,
oh, enough of that, mate.
Okay.
I did an Easter egg video, Mason. I talk all about about it you're welcome to check it out I'll link it
below Mason when you're listening to this when you're listening to me tell you this I'll click
below fantastic if you want to know all about that but uh no not come on not him also just
don't put Grindelwald in it just be like he's a disciple of him. Because the reveal was just kind of like, oh, when it was Grindelwald.
Okay.
Yeah.
How does that change anything?
And also, how long was he Colin Farrell?
Where's real Colin Farrell?
Was there ever a real Colin Farrell?
And if there was never a real Colin Farrell, how?
There would have had to have been.
Did Grindelwald go through the Magic Academy?
The Magic Cop Academy?
Did he graduate with honors?
Because they thought
he was still in Europe.
So presumably he came
and killed real Colin Farrell
and took his place.
Would you like to see
the real Colin Farrell
and he's still alive?
Yes.
Me too.
That's what they did
in Spoiler Alert
for Harry Potter 4.
Mad-Eye Moody
is actually
Barty Crouch Jr.
Oh yeah.
For the whole movie.
Of course he or she is.
Yeah, it's great.
It's a good twist.
And then the real Mad-Eye Mooney turns up.
He's also at the end of that movie.
He's kept him in a case.
Right.
In like a giant case.
Well, do you think they'd do it again?
Surely not.
Well, Grindelwald would probably kill him.
He seems like that kind of bloke.
But then Mad-Eye Mooney is in the rest of the movies.
Yeah, okay.
So, yeah, I thought Colin Farrell.
I like Colin Farrell.
He's just...
Same.
He just makes them...
Not all his movies are big, but I enjoy him.
Yeah.
In Bruges, amazing.
It's an amazing movie.
Yeah, I don't want four...
Yeah, four Johnny Depp movies.
Really?
Yeah.
Just, you know, recast him.
It's fine.
Surely maybe what they've...
See, what I think they should have taken away
from the Pirates of the Caribbean movies is
maybe they do make a lot of money,
but you can't tell them apart.
No.
I don't want four more movies where I'm like,
I don't know,
which one was this again?
I don't know.
Oh God.
Yeah, no good.
Blonde hair's weird.
Yeah.
Little mustache weird.
Yep.
Yeah, no good.
Unnecessary twist.
But because I liked when Graves,
when he thought he was Graves,
he has the Deathly Hallows symbol.
You know, he's like,
this is a precious thing to me.
It's a Deathly Hallows symbol.
That's the thing that Harry Potter
uses to defeat Voldemort.
It's the bloody,
it's the wand that can kill anybody.
It's the invisibility cloak
and the rock that brings back people
that you love from the dead.
Wait, so which one does,
which one does Colin Farrell have?
No, he's got the symbol of it
because that's something that he...
Again, it's in my Easter egg video, Mason,
if you haven't watched it in the future
when you're listening to this.
Oh, yeah, great, thanks.
Good for the heads up, thank you.
But so him and Dumbledore are obsessed
with getting these and ruling the magical community.
Sorry, ruling the world,
but for different reasons.
Dumbledore wanted to do it to protect humanity,
but also he kind of realized
that maybe you shouldn't do that
because it's not a good idea.
And Grindelwald was just like,
nah, we're better, mate.
Let's just bloody do it.
Yeah.
Fucking Johnny Depp.
Yeah, they're right.
What did you think of the introduction
of the Ouroboros,
the smoke monster,
Ezra Miller,
worst haircut ever committed to film?
Pretty bad, right?
He was good though.
Yeah.
I thought he was really great.
Pretty nice, yeah.
Because he's pretty kind of bubbly
and charismatic and whatnot. And he really kind of, what a was good, though. Yeah. I thought he was really great. Pretty nice, yeah. Because he's pretty kind of bubbly and charismatic and whatnot.
And he really kind of, what a weird creep.
Right?
Yeah.
There was so much less mugging in this film than I thought there would be.
Right, yeah.
Because he could have been a snivelling kind of,
Yeah.
A bit of that.
He felt real and you kind of felt for him.
Yeah.
But when he turns into a big black cloud and is just smashing stuff,
and at the end they just kind of point their wands at him and he goes,
and then he dies.
You know what I like in this movie?
The fact that people are just using their wands just to blast people.
There's none of this saying a thing.
Well, that's what you can do.
When you're good at it, you say it in your mind and you can do it.
That's what they do in – you see that in the movies.
They learn that you don't need to – or it happens more in the books.
You don't need to say it out loud.
That's something the kids do.
But just using them as just guns.
Yeah, just so good.
Bang, bang.
Bang, bang.
Bloody hell.
Afterwards, they probably would have been like,
they'll look around at each other
and they'll be like, bloody hell.
How good was that?
Hardly ever get to do that.
We all just blasted it together.
Yeah.
Oh, good work, everybody.
I didn't like the ending either.
It was kind of a bit of a cop-out.
We're like, what are we going to do?
Because everybody in New York saw the smoke.
And then they're like, well, I can do a thing.
I absolutely saw that coming.
Put a bird into a cloud.
Yeah, I know.
But I put a bird into a cloud and then it cries
and then it also has a potion in it and then everybody forgets.
And then we just rebuild the city like it's nothing.
Yeah, okay.
No.
I didn't mind it. That's balls, mate. All right. i didn't mind it that's balls all right i didn't mind it and again they foreshadowed he's like i've got this thing
and i you can erase memories with it i've got it in a little vial maybe i'll use that later
yeah he puts it away and you're like okay well yeah but that's the same as like the time turn
is being like well i've got this uh i've got this device that can reverse time maybe that'll come
back later it's the same like it's still a shit thing even if you introduce it prior it's still a dumb idea i didn't mind it because there's no there was no unnecessarily
powerful ramifications for it i mean they erase memories but that's fine like that's it they they
it wasn't like okay well you go up there and you cry and everybody comes back to life i don't think
it's actually crying but anyway presumably everybody who died anybody who died in that
is still dead yeah oh yeah yeah Because all those buildings fell down.
Correct.
As per usual.
As is wont to do in a Warner Brothers movie.
So I don't mind the idea that they have that amount of power
because it didn't change.
It isn't the level of power where they're like,
well, why don't we just bring everybody back to life,
anybody who dies.
Okay.
Well, that's the thing.
Yeah, you can't do that in the Harry Potter world,
except for that rock that can do it, sort of.
Yeah, great.
But you're more of a kind of a green ghost. It's the thing. Yeah, you can't do that in the Harry Potter world, except for that rock that can do it, sort of. Yeah, great. But you're more of a kind of a green ghost.
It's not important.
God, they were quick to bloody give him that acid bath, weren't they?
It's like, give him the acid bath.
And they're like, all right, boss.
So that's a real grim way to die.
Jeez, yeah.
I assumed they just warned you.
I assumed they were just going to kill you.
Bang, bang!
Through the head, mate.
If you've got that, if you've got a bang, bang wand,
everything looks like a thing that can be shot by a bang, bang wand.
You know what I mean?
But yeah, that's a real grim way to die.
You've got to get a new chair every time.
Yeah.
Maybe that's the only way to properly kill a wizard
so they don't come back somehow.
I think you shoot them through the head.
No, we've seen wizards be killed.
Yeah.
There's the killing curse, which is instantaneous.
Yeah.
That's way more humane than melting someone in an acid pool while you relive some memories.
Yeah, exactly.
And also, it is basically you trick their mind into thinking getting on this acid chair is a good idea.
And then once you're on there, you realize it's a bad idea.
But then it's too late because you're going to be killed by the acid.
It's a real grim way to die.
That's the part where I'm like,
this isn't for kids anymore.
No, that's right.
Yeah.
A lot of kids are going to have,
a lot of kids are going to be sent to this movie
or go to this movie with their parents
and then have a lot of difficulty sitting on chairs
for the next little while
because they'll be like,
what about the acid?
No, that's fine.
I like the look of that room though.
If you've ever been to like-
An acid room.
Yeah, an acid room.
Oh, you know, like in Tasmania,
you can visit like the old convict facilities.
It looks just like that.
Just like a real grim, sad room.
Yeah, right.
Oh, no, there's some bad stuff happening.
Yeah, it was all grim and white and it had those...
The weird stains.
Yeah, the little Xs on the wall
for where you presumably killed a lot of people.
Yeah.
Put them in the firing range.
But I thought that was very strange where Colin Farrell has that level of authority
where it's like, hey, listen, kill them.
And the helpers were just like, no problem.
Yeah, right.
Not a problem.
Happy to do it, mate.
No oversight, no paperwork.
Yeah, do we want to get someone else to check up on this to make sure this is okay?
Oh, yeah.
Nah.
But I guess maybe if this guy has been doing this, like if he's been doing this for a few
years, maybe he's gotten a certain amount of authority.
Like he's like,
normally that wouldn't be the case,
but he's built it up to the point where he can be like,
don't question me,
do this and do this.
And they're like,
oh,
okay.
Sure.
Cause you're the boss.
And again,
I liked how Eddie Redmayne didn't kind of bumble himself out of it.
He's like,
no,
I've got the stuff to get out of this on me.
That was good.
And he's got a little lock picking man.
Yeah,
lock picking man. He's got that little lockpicking man. Yeah, lockpicking man.
He's got that terrifying brain-eating monster.
When they're escaping, they're in like an underground parking garage or something.
Yep.
And it's him and the other lady.
Yep, Tina.
You should really remember Tina.
They get married in the years to come.
Oh, nice.
Spoiler alert.
Spoilers.
But anyway, they're escaping and the other guys are like,
Bang, bang. There's a lot of bang, bang, bang. People are bloody loving it. They're like, ah, we're never going to get a chance to do this. Bang, bang, bang, bang. but anyway they're escaping and the bloody the other guys bang bang
there's a lot of
bang bang bang
people are bloody
loving it
they're like
we're never going
to get a chance
to do this
bang bang bang
we're bloody
loving it
and then
he throws the bird
out and the bird
just jumps him
and then
Eddie Redmayne's like
don't eat their brains
we've got to go
so that bird
eats brains
presumably human brains
yeah
or maybe
I didn't hear that and I just hoped that's Yeah I uh Or maybe I didn't hear that
And I just hoped
That's what it does
Maybe
Sometimes I didn't understand
Like cause he was so subdued
Sometimes I didn't understand
What he said
More mugging is required
No no definitely not
I'd rather not
Kind of catch everything
Yeah
Yeah
And I loved him though
I thought he was really good
Like he brought a real humanity to it
Yeah right
Like
And I like
They also built in that
Little bit of backstory
Where they're like
Oh my god
This is so andso Scamander,
the war hero, and he's like, no, this is his dumbass brother.
So we don't, because Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them,
the book, it's not a narrative.
It's an encyclopedia.
Right, okay, sure.
Of animals.
So all of this is completely new.
Yes.
How do you know that any Redmane character gets married?
Because in the Harry Potter timeline in the future, that's his wife.
But the other girl that he mentions is called Leta Lestrange,
who's related to Helena Bonham Carter.
Right.
And this is all in my video, Mason, which you've checked out by now.
Presumably, if I've re-listened to this podcast,
a thing that I would never do.
J.K. Rowling said that he got kicked out because he took the fall
and they kind of, of Hogwarts.
Okay, right.
Because they mention that, well, he gets told that she's kind of using you
or whatever.
She doesn't really.
She's just taken from you.
She's not really a good person.
Yeah, okay, right.
He's like, you don't know nothing about me or how foppish I am.
You don't know anything.
Get out of my head, woman.
God, that would be incredibly annoying if somebody you knew
could read your mind all the time.
Do you think it would be something that you would want, though,
as a skill to be like, oh, this.
You make snap judgments about people when you meet them subconsciously.
I feel like there's kind of five ways, five types of people that I have,
and I just slot them into that category as soon as I meet them.
Yep.
That is...
Gryffindor, Ravenclaw, Hufflepuff, Slytherin, a fifth one.
Is there a secret fifth house?
There are American houses in their school.
Yale.
Yeah.
What's another good school?
Harvard.
Yeah.
Great.
The future of the franchise, Mason, what do you want to say? More Johnny Depp.
Just kidding. No Johnny Depp. Ha ha.
Do you want to see young Dumbledore?
Oh, yeah.
Trimming. Terrific. Yeah. Yeah.
Nice. Well, he's not really that young. He'll still be like
50-ish.
Oh, yeah. So who do you get? Do you get
Michael Gambon back? No.
Wait, what does Michael Gambon look like now? The same.
Like an old man. He's probably about 60. Oh, then I'd be a bit older than that. But, what does Michael Gambon look like now? The same. Like an old man.
He's probably about 60.
Oh, then no.
No, he'd be a bit older than that.
But Dumbledore's supposed to be like 115 or something like that.
Right.
Maybe even older.
Yeah, he was born in like 1880 or something.
I can't remember.
Okay.
But, yeah.
Same age as Wolverine.
Hugh Jackman.
Yeah.
He's too big.
He's too ripped.
No.
Well, I was going to say you get him to be-
Dumbledore's got a bit of a paunch
I was gonna say
get him to be less ripped
but Hugh Jackman
would never be less ripped
he wouldn't allow it
yeah
he's on a
have you seen those comparisons
of like
here he is in X-Men 1
yeah
and he's kind
he's looking pretty good
he looks good
he looks like a
a man who runs
he looks like a very fit normal man
and then
in the 80s he's just
yeah
crazy ripped
crazy
I think he's just
he's just never gonna to get less ripped.
Okay.
He's just going to stick to it.
Yeah.
I think in the spirit of that, get The Rock.
Yeah, nice.
The Rock is Grindelwald and Hugh Jackman is Dumbledore and have a bloody...
Kiss.
Yeah, kiss.
Well, they will, apparently.
Yeah, that's right.
Though I was also reading a thing where apparently they didn't date.
So not necessarily.
That was kind of a one-sided thing and Grindelwald kind of manipulated him
emotionally oh I couldn't see through it right this is all in my video mace oh
yeah but uh there's more stuff in there than what I'm talking about but uh that
he's a he's a user of people and you see that with the way he treats Ezra Miller
yeah where you kind of there's a bit of stuff where he gets real close yeah
what's happening here I guess what kind of relationship is this yeah where you kind of there's a bit of stuff where he gets real close yeah like what's happening here like it's
what kind of relationship
is this
real weird
yeah
so you kind of
I think that's the kind of thing
that we
that we got from Grindelwald
yeah
as soon as I saw the back of
Johnny Depp's head
at the start of the movie
I'm like oh that's so Johnny Depp
yeah
even though I knew he was in
I'm like oh no
yeah
anyway
yeah pretty good
it's an okay start to the franchise
I think so too
in this
like I didn't love it.
I don't think it's as good as the best Harry Potter movies.
Okay.
But, like, I don't really enjoy the first two Harry Potter movies,
but I appreciate them as a setup film,
and I think this is a better movie for me.
It is 100 times a better movie than those first couple of Harry Potter movies.
But those are kids' movies as well.
I think they're great kids' movies.
This is not a kids' movie. No. Yeah. If if you've got a kid don't take him to this unless
you hate him in which case just keep taking yeah unless they misbehave and you've got a you've got
a plain gray looking chair in your house that you want to use to punish them for years to come
take him to this yeah uh do you think that'll do it though i think that'll do it let me think
what else happened this movie uh do you think... Is everybody currently in this movie,
are they signed off for sequels and things like that?
I believe so, yes.
Do you think the sidekick's going to get his memory back
for the next movie?
What did you get the sense of that?
I don't know whether he got it all back,
but he seemed to recognise her.
I think he will get enough back.
I think they're going to need him.
They're going to need his baking skills in the sequel,
and so they'll bring his memory back. Sure.
I like that guy.
I think that would be some good social commentary
as well.
Baking.
Yeah, baking.
Well, they get together
and maybe they run
a bakery together
and the government's like,
hey, stop it.
And Colin Farrell's like,
into the death room.
Get in the room.
Bang, bang.
We've got so many
instruments at death.
How good is it?
Bang, bang, bang.
Get in the chair.
Bang, bang, bang. Oh, it's good, isn death. How good is it? Bang, bang, bang. Get in the chair. Bang, bang, bang.
Oh, it's good, isn't it?
Yeah.
Because there was a lot of that,
like you couldn't marry someone from a different race
and it could be an interesting kind of...
It wasn't that long ago.
Exactly.
And also, you know,
there are these people who,
you're a wizard, Harry,
but you have to suppress all your urges
and then your body explode.
That's another thing.
Yeah.
That was a new magic thing that they introduced.
But there's a theory that Dumbledore's sister was this.
Because she got like beat up by some muggles as a kid.
Oh, yeah.
They're like, do magic, you bitch.
And she was like, oh, no, help.
And then so she suppressed it all in fear.
Yeah.
And either that eventually killed her or she was killed in a duel,
a three-way duel with Grindelwald and Dumbledore and Aberforth,
which is Dumbledore's weird brother.
Huh.
What happened to him?
He runs an inn.
Oh, yeah, great.
He's in the last Harry Potter movie.
He's like Dumbledore except he's meaner and he hates Dumbledore.
Does he look like Dumbledore?
Yes, he looks identical.
You think he'd shave the beard?
No, you don't.
You're a wizard, mate.
Is it Michael Gambon again?
It's not.
I can't remember.
It's Mance Rayder from Game of Thrones,
who you probably don't remember.
If you saw him, you'd be like,
I know exactly who that is.
He's a British actor.
Okay, right.
He's any British actor.
I'm still trying to think of young Dumbledore.
Who do you count?
Because you can't go too young.
You've got to get someone like 40 to 50.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hugh Grant?
Yeah.
Too foppish?
Yeah, maybe.
He doesn't have the gravitas.
Maybe he does, though.
What was the last thing we saw him in?
Man from Arthur?
I think he'd be a better Grindelwald,
because Grindelwald's supposed to be this charming, slick kind of fella.
Okay, so we need somebody kind of...
All right, like a fatherly kind of figure.
Yeah.
All right. What's your dad doing? He like a fatherly kind of figure. Yeah.
All right.
What's your dad doing?
He's a fatherly figure in a way.
He absolutely is in many ways.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Who do we get?
Maybe that's something people can tweet at us.
Tweet at us.
You've got a young Dumbledore.
Yeah.
I mean, not young.
No, it can't be like kid Dumbledore.
We're talking like someone 40 to 50-ish. Yeah.
Probably British, but not necessarily.
Yeah.
I was going to say, in this movie, there are a lot of British people playing Americans
and American people playing British people.
Right.
Give me 10 examples of those.
Colin Farrell.
He's Irish.
Whatever.
I mean, it's all the region, isn't it?
Yeah, isn't it though?
Yeah.
Great.
Yeah.
Anyway, that's one, but it doesn't really count.
Give me 10 more.
Samantha Morton.
Where's she from?
She again?
Which one's she?
The love interest.
I know where she's from.
Yeah, see, right?
This is going very well.
I'm the movie dog.
Forget it.
Look.
It's pretty good.
Yep.
Looking forward to more.
I had a real good time.
Yeah.
I had a real good time in this movie.
All right.
Next segment, mate.
Oh, actually, I got some tweets here from people who saw the movie.
It's from Vanji.
Loved Fantastic Beasts.
Did not expect that ending.
A promising start for a new set of stories.
I'm hyped up.
It's from Gray V. Train.
Very good.
I'll review the movie for everyone real quick.
They're the same issues as BVS, but with wizards.
Oh, fair.
Okay.
Sarah says, just saw Fantastic Beasts.
Stunning effects and a great cast.
Only complaint was Depp, just not a wide cast.
Hashtag, they're in the case.
That's true.
That's true.
I agree with that 100%.
Yeah, right.
Matthew Onestro says, Fantastic Beasts was fantastic.
I liked the bit with the magic rhyme.
I thought it was beasts.
What did I say?
Because he said Fantastic Beasts was fantastic.
Oh.
So I thought it was beasts.
Okay, good.
Which is a new cool term I'm trying to push on people.
Okay, well, I'll do the air quotes.
You do the beasts.
Okay, cool.
Nice.
Fantastic Beasts.
But if you're being sarcastic, you'd be like, it was really beasts.
I did the air quotes.
This is not going to translate to people.
Maybe it will.
I don't know.
We're having a good time.
We certainly are.
I like the bit with the magic rhino.
Newt looked like a total mason
When he was doing that dance
How dare everyone
Unless that means cool
Yeah
Unless it was totally beast
Unless it was totally beast
Beasts
With an S
Yeah
Okay good
Plural
Great
Alright
New segment mason
I mean next segment
What are we reading?
Yep
What are we gonna read?
Ooh so hot
The thing that I'm reading
ouch
I'm doing a thing
what are we reading
today
what are you
I'm bloody
you know what
I mentioned this a few weeks ago
but I'm bloody
loving Westworld
yeah
that's what I'm talking about
twist and turns
twist and turns
I don't know if we can spoil it maybe we'll do an episode on it we'll talk about it i think that a lot of stuff because
i look there's there's twists there's turns there's a narrative of like i i i went i've done
my best to not be spoiled by anything if somebody tweets oh what's what's what's the deal with arnold
what's his what's the theory about this guy i'm like i don't want to watch it i'm not gonna so
it took me like seven
episodes to realize
they're doing a
weird narrative
device and I think
everybody else picked
up by about episode
three right sure
and but it it was
like this is like a
costume cue in in
episode seven where
I'm like oh my
god there's a
that's the guy
a costume cue
there's a bloody
there's a cop
well like we can't
talk about without
spoiling okay. Okay.
Should we do brief spoilers for Westworld?
Brief spoilers.
Yeah.
I'll mark them below if you want to skip ahead.
Nice.
Okay.
So, brief spoilers for Westworld are in episode seven, because in the show we've got William
played by one of the McPoyle brothers.
Yes.
From Always Sunny.
He's never looked better.
I know, right?
He looks great.
But in it, he always wears like a like a burgundy
checked shirt yeah and in episode seven he has like the romance with dolores yeah and then when
they wake up he's wearing like a like a colorless gray shirt with like a pleat on the front and i'm
like why is he wearing the man in black shirt oh because he's the man in black oh you think that's
the case i think that's the case yeah okay i'm like oh they're not taking place at the same time
and then i went back and I looked at some of the theories
and it turns out everybody figured that out.
Yes.
I think we even talked about it briefly.
Oh, okay, cool.
And did you pick that Arnold was also a robot?
Wait, Arnold or Bernard?
Bernard, sorry.
No, that was spoiled for me beforehand.
Oh, great.
Thanks, whoever did that.
Yeah.
It was somebody making a joke on bloody Twitter.
You got to get in quick, mate. I know, you got to get in real quick. I stay off Twitter and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thanks, whoever did that. It was somebody making a joke on bloody Twitter. You got to get in quick, mate.
I know, you got to get in real quick.
I stay off Twitter and everything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's why I watch that.
Who else do you think's a robot?
Anyone with a backstory or a memory.
Right?
Because I kind of, at the start of the episode, when they're like, well, first of all, I'm
like, one of these motherfuckers is a robot.
At least one.
Oh, somebody on staff.
Yeah, definitely.
Maybe it's that Hemsworth, but he's not doing much.
No. One of them definitely is. And then at the start, when they're like, oh, my son's dying. I. Yeah, definitely. Maybe it's that Hemsworth, but he's not doing much. No.
One of them definitely is.
And then at the start, they're like, oh, my son's dying.
I'm like, okay.
Tragic backstory.
Inexplicably tragic backstory.
Yeah.
Okay, so here's a couple of theories.
Yeah.
Here's a couple of thoughts I've had.
Yeah.
They're all conflicting.
So either Bernard is Ford's version of Arnold. Yeah, yes like arnold was killed in the park yep and then
uh ford has rebuilt him as this guy yeah sure that's that's which is why he had which is why
he has that inexplicably tragic backstory right because maybe arnold had a kid well yeah kind of
lost his humanity through something happened and then the died, so he goes to the park and he dies. Yeah. And so Ford has rebuilt him.
Yeah.
Here's another theory.
It's the Tron legacy theory.
Mm.
Arnold...
There's two Tron.
There's two Arnolds.
Arnold's alive.
There's two Arnolds.
Robot Arnold and real Arnold?
Uh, no, Arnold's dead.
Yeah.
Arnold's still dead.
Arnold built Ford.
Yeah.
And then Ford and Arnold built Westworld together arnold so ford's a robot ford's a robot as well but he's he ages we don't know that he
does that's true no we saw him young and new body yeah sure swap him out swap him out he's got the
he's got the bodybuilding machine he does have the body not the bodybuilding machine yeah he's got
he's got a rack mate that he can chin ups on that's yeah look potent my feeling is well i think ford's
ultimate plan is to because he's willing to kill people to stay in west world yeah which suggests
to me that he has got some sort of plan involving maybe replacing humanity as a whole with robots
because he's like robots don't feel sad they don't feel but also they do yeah i
know and i don't think he even believes that yeah i think that was just stuff that he told not arnold
the other bloke bernard bernard yeah too close yeah right yeah just that's why arnold bernard
could be the same person yeah yeah where so he wouldn't suspect that he himself was because he's
like don't talk to him too much don't talk to him like they're real right just just ease up yeah i guess that's true but i don't think he actually thinks that yeah well
maybe he i mean i don't doubt that he doesn't really value them as people yeah but i just think
yeah i think he knows that they're smarter than they are also you can get him to punch someone
in the head and kill him that's very true yeah but i feel also maybe because ford has like power
over the park that nobody else does.
Everybody else has to be like, analysis, stop your motor functions or whatever.
But he can just wave his hand.
So if he's also not real, maybe that's...
Anyway, that's my thought.
Also, yeah, William and the Man in Black.
Yeah.
Makes perfect sense when you think about it.
It does, yeah.
He had to pick the hats at the start and he chose a white hat.
But now he's...
The black hat.
Also, he's clearly...
He's a very powerful man
and obviously he's gone through the ranks of this company too.
And they kind of got similar bone structure a little bit.
I guess that's true, yeah.
If you had to go down that road.
Anyway, spoiler, so it's over?
Wait, wait, one more thing.
Oh yeah, because bloody Clifton Collins character.
Like, you know the guy that...
The man in black, like he kills his family
and he puts a noose
around his neck
and he drags him about
and then that guy's killed
and then you see him again
and you're like
initially I'm like well
they repurpose them
yeah but no
it's him in the past
yeah
fair enough
it's bloody
if that is true
and I think it kind of is
that is
because it's bloody
Jonathan Nolan
yeah
memento guy
yeah
good work
like the idea that we all think
that's happening at the same time
yeah but it's because the hosts don't age do you not mind that work like the idea that we all think that's happening at the same time yeah
but it's because the hosts don't age
do you not mind that
that this is the thing
that people have guessed
if it's true
no I don't mind if that's true
yeah
I mean we've only got like
everybody guesses everything now
yeah
I think there's only about
three episodes left
yeah
so
sure
yeah
I think they'll reveal it
by nine or ten
yeah
if it's a non-linear narrative
I think they'll reveal it
by the last episode probably
I don't disagree, Mason.
Also, do you think we're going to see other worlds?
I want to, yes.
Yes.
I think every season should be a different world.
Maybe not.
Just do this one first.
Anyway, I bloody love in Westworld.
Well, what I'm watching, Mason, end of spoilers.
I read the entire Vision run.
Oh, yeah.
Have you read that?
No, but it's all about family.
It is, where he builds his own family.
Yeah. Because he just wants to fit in and kind of study humanity and just be like a regular person in the burbs with his with his family and you think it's going to become this this good fun
time with robots kind of misunderstanding human emotions and there's a bit of that yeah but it's
incredibly like heartfelt and tragic and and like there's the miscommunications lead to incredible
like incredibly terrible things that happening to the visions and the people around them
that spirals into events that affect the future.
And then the Avengers get drowned.
They went to buy a Christmas tree,
but there were no Christmas trees left in the lot.
That kind of thing?
That kind of thing, yeah.
And someone gets shot in the head or whatever.
Oh, yeah, great.
So, look, if you haven't read it i would say uh yeah definitely
great definitely i mean everybody knows it everybody knows it's good everybody's been
talking about how fantastic this this run is and and it's beasts or beasts they've been saying it's
so beasts but no it's well worth uh checking out just before we uh unless you've got another what
to be reading uh no uh westworld man do you know in my mind it's blowing your mind do you know impromptu tunes you know them yeah i know those guys it's an impromptu musical uh that that show
that runs in melbourne and also around the world they take it on the road they're both mutual
friends of ours obviously and uh they're starting up a podcast they're going to get it going where
oh basically we should do you want to explain the concept uh or i can do it which part the idea of
impromptu? Yes.
They're an improv group and they make up a bloody musical every...
Someone...
Yeah, someone...
Sorry, I shouldn't have asked you to do it and then jumped on you immediately.
Let's explain improv.
Sure.
They're an improv group and at the start of the show they say,
yell out a word or a topic and then they build a musical around it for about 40, 45 minutes.
And I've seen it twice and it was completely different.
You've seen it a few times.
A couple of times, sure.
And it's always different and always amazing.
Yeah.
And because there's a guy who's improv-ing on the piano
and then singers and it's incredible.
Anyway, they're building a podcast around this concept,
but they want to get some topics to start off with.
Okay.
So if people can tweet the hashtag impromptunes,
So if people can tweet the hashtag impromptunes, I-M-P-R-O-M-P-Tunes, T-U-N-E-S, one word, and tweet it to one of us, they're going to pick one at random or we're going to email them
one at random and then they're going to make it up on the spot.
Right.
That sounds good.
And give this bloody podcast thing a go.
My go-to improv suggestion is always speedboat,
regardless of what they ask.
If they're like, what's a place you'd go on vacation?
I'm like, speedboat.
What's the name of a fruit?
Speedboat.
No matter what.
I have a really good time at improv shows.
Just ruining their fun.
Just ruining fun, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Good stuff.
So, yeah, maybe don't do speedboat hundreds of times.
Or do speedboat hundreds of times.
Maybe a real suggestion and also speedboat.
Sure.
See how that goes.
Yeah, yeah.
And they'll pick one on the day, like literally seconds before they do it.
And we'll see how that goes.
Oh, yeah, nice.
Pretty good.
I'd imagine it'd be pretty good.
New segment, Mason.
Next segment.
Hot stuff.
Letters. Letters.
The classic one was letters, oh letters.
We love you, some letters.
They're only a day away.
I know they're here right now.
We're going to do letters.
Let me get out the mailbag.
Oh, it's so hot.
Was I clear enough on that impromptu and see how that all works?
Yeah, sure.
Cool. All right. Because I don't want people to be like, what? Was I clear enough On that improv tune To see how that all works Yeah sure Cool Alright
Because I don't want
I don't want people to be like
What
Because it's
It's an improvised podcast
People get it
It's
I think they're incredible
What they do
And I think it'd be cool
Why don't you marry them
Or you love them so much
Maybe I will mate
There's a whole lot of them
I'll have my pick
It's fine
Okay this is from Nick S
S on Twitter
If you want to reach the show
Hashtag weekly planet pod
We'll read some of them out Won't we Mason Yes we will So hot Probably three Yes Here's number one Okay, this is from Nick S on Twitter. If you want to reach the show, hashtag Weekly Planet Pod.
We'll read some of them out, won't we, Mason? Yes, we will.
So hot.
Probably three.
Yes.
Here's number one.
Do you think the DC...
It's like I had Saturday in here.
So many whip cracks.
Do you think the DC EU movies could get better over time,
e.g. Justice League might explain the Flash cameo from BBS?
So when they mean get better over time,
do you think he means like integrate more of things
that kind of happened in the past or just get better as films?
I hope they just get better as films.
Yeah, I think they will get better as films.
I think maybe the question here,
if we're talking about this Flash thing,
maybe the question is do we think as more movies are released
it will explain more of the things that have happened
in the previous movies that are no good?
Right, right.
So, for example, in the next movie,
it might reveal why Flash came out of the TV that time.
What?
Remember he came out of the TV?
No.
He came out of Bruce Lee's TV.
Oh, he did too.
Yeah.
I completely forgot about that.
Oh, speaking of extended cuts of things,
the Suicide Squad extended cuts out.
Apparently it's no good. It adds nothing of importance. We Suicide Squad extended cuts out. Apparently it's no good.
It adds nothing of importance.
We'll do a commentary on it.
More people sitting in the middle of a city square
waving their swords and their fists about.
Great. Fantastic.
Apparently there's not really that much more Joker.
Do you know why?
I just think what happened,
and I said this in the video I did,
which I won't link below,
on deleted scenes and whatnot.
I think they just went,
Jared Leto, just pinwheel. Just go for it. Just fly free with the Joker. idea which i won't link below on deleted scenes and whatnot i think they just went jared leto
just pinwheel just just go for it just fly free with the joker and then he did it and then they
went you know what none of this makes sense we can't use any of it because there's no narrative
to this he's just he's just being crazy yep he's just getting up in people's faces and yeah yeah
twitching i so i think that's what and so also we'll probably get the, as you said,
the Joker was wild.
Joker's wild edition, exactly,
where we just get all the Joker footage
and that's because they want to make us pay for a third edition.
Well, guess what?
I'm not paying for a third edition.
What do you reckon about that, James?
Look, I'm against it,
but that's obviously you're your own person.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Second letter.
Oh, speaking of extended cuts.
Yeah.
Jeff Bell, at Random Bell on Twitter,
we mentioned last week a recut of Batman v Superman,
like a trimmed down version.
He apparently did one for fun a few months ago,
90 minutes from the Ultimate Edition's 180.
Batman kills no one.
Superman less mopey.
Lex less weird.
All right, then.
Jeff, if you get back to us
how did you
get around
the gas grenade
at the end
in the fight
just don't put it in
just don't put it in
I guess
I don't know
yeah
that's a shame
because I like the idea
of the grenade
but
yeah right
how would he fall for it twice
how would he fall for it twice
let's never speak about it again
also I thought you meant
the other grenade for a second
where he kills the people
with the grenade
oh yeah
just edit that out as well.
Just edit it out.
Okay, this is from Tony Washbourne.
So the 50th anniversary of Star Trek came and went without any notice.
Tony Washbourne abs.
Yeah, I bet.
Without any notice from Paramount,
maybe you guys should do a show on it.
Oh, yeah.
I like Star Trek.
I haven't seen enough of it.
I should watch the original series.
Yeah.
And then maybe we could talk about it at some point.
Okay.
Are you going to watch the whole...
Maybe, yeah.
The whole original series?
Yeah, maybe.
It's on Netflix.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
Yeah.
More than one person I know,
I'll have a chat with them and they'll be like,
I'm like, what are you watching lately?
And they'll be like, I've been watching Star Trek.
And I'm like, oh yeah.
And they're like, I got through all the original series
and Next Generation and Deep Space Nine
and now I'm on a voyage. And I'm like, that's a lot of... like, I got through all the original series and Next Generation and Deep Space Nine and now I'm on a voyage
and I'm like, that's a lot of crap.
Yeah.
No, there's a lot of good stuff in there though, isn't there, probably?
There's some good stuff.
Yeah.
There's a lot of good concepts.
No, I absolutely think there are.
Star Trek's pretty good, isn't it?
Isn't it though?
I like what they're doing with it at the moment.
There's a spider on your microphone.
I know.
I saw it walk up towards you you i followed it the whole way up
it's been creeping towards you for about 10 minutes on the microphone stand yes wow i didn't
say anything because i didn't want to spook you wow this is the way i'm gonna go is it yeah it's
either this or i guess this chair that i've been on for many years is gonna finally go into that
acid you know what's funny about Star Trek though? Nobody cares
on YouTube about it.
Any video that I've done
Yeah.
It doesn't really
get a lot of traction.
Okay.
Especially this year
and I think it's because
Star Wars is back.
Yeah.
We've talked about this before.
Which is a shame
because Beyond was amazing.
Right.
It might be my favourite
blockbuster of the year.
We'll get to that
in that particular episode.
Anyway, sure. We'll do a Star in that particular episode. Anyway, sure,
we'll do a Star Trek one
at some point.
Yeah, nice, let's do it.
Some Scott Booth
What Booth Abs.
Yeah, nice.
Do you think we'll ever get
a decent incarnation
of Doctor Doom
on the big screen?
God, we have to eventually, right?
In all time and space.
It's got to have to.
Yeah, surely.
Yeah.
What's your ideal version?
Julian McMahon?
No.
Maybe. They got the suit right, sort of, didn't they? Yeah, eventually. Yeah, that. Yeah. Yeah. What's your ideal version? Julian McMahon? No. Maybe.
They got the suit right.
Sort of.
Yeah, eventually.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I just don't give him an origin.
Don't make him a hacker.
Don't make him a hacker.
Don't make him just have him as the, you know what?
I think we've gone way beyond he needs an origin at this point.
Maybe mention it in passing.
Dogs. It's spring.
The dog's sneezing away, mate.
Cut us some slack.
You're all right, dog.
Just put him as the ruler of Latveria, give him the suit,
give him the magic powers, give him a little luger on his belt.
Yeah, man.
Allude to a relationship he had with the Fantastic Four prior,
like they knew
each other yep don't need to see another origin for any of that we've seen two fantastic four
origins three if you count the roger corman one which i haven't seen so i can't count it because
i haven't seen it plus probably the cartoon origin yeah plus the cartoon origin where the human
torch isn't in it because they feared kids would set themselves on fire so it was a robot yeah
yeah yeah no we will.
I think Marvel will get them back
because Fox are just like,
what are we going to do with this?
We've already ruined it twice.
Look, tell you what,
we've moved on from big swar-
Okay, we've done big swarm of robots.
We've done it's just a guy as the villain.
We've gone-
We're going to big swarms of cloud CGI
swooping around the city.
Once we're done with that, I think we can just go back to comic accurate villains.
Just make Doom to look like Doom.
Yeah.
He's got all sorts of technology in his suit.
Yep.
He can fly about.
He's got a great cloak.
Yep.
Great.
He fought Luke Cage that one time.
Yeah.
It's pretty good.
That's the show.
Got a nice little money clip.
Peel off some cash to give Luke cash.
I like how he keeps American dollars on him.
Right?
Yeah.
You know, he's a man of the world.
Much like myself in that way, Mason.
We both travel.
Oh, God.
Is that the show?
I think that's the show.
I think we did the show.
Yeah, I'm going to go to my parents' house.
It's their wedding anniversary.
Great.
I'll see you at your parents' house.
You're not invited.
Definitely not invited.
Oh, wow.
No, good.
I don't want to be there.
Yeah.
Where are you off to?
I've got to work.
Oh, that's good too.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
That's fine.
Look, we both have terrible things we don't want to go to.
Right.
Not true.
I love going to my parents.
Food, man.
They're just like, here's a bunch of food.
And then my family's there.
It's good stuff.
And you get to ignore your family and eat the food.
You know it, mate. Yeah yeah uh okay uh totally beasts that's getting off the ground it's
definitely not but what what would you consider where would you say people could find us oh nice
he did the air quotes yeah uh you can find us uh weekly planet pod he's doing it it's unpleasant
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I just realized that white, you are covered in dog hair.
Oh, yeah.
It's the white t-shirt.
Oh, well, that's all right.
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Who's to say?
Who is to say?
I cashed those checks, by the way.
I went to the bank.
Wow.
Yeah.
Hopefully the currency markets don't take a dive.
And again, I lied about what I do because they're just like, why do you have these?
Do you live in America?
I'm like, no.
And they're like, what do you do?
And I'm like, I'm a video editor no and they're like what do you do and i'm like i'm a i'm a video editor and they're like okay nice technically not a lie not a lie but like
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hate what's it about i don't want to tell you what it's about i have a podcast which you would
also hate like also no no spread the word man no it's about movies and video games and comic books
you'd love it lady
yeah
oh god
what were we talking about
anyway she was very nice
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Planeteer.
He might just be,
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Best guy.
Well, third to us,
obviously.
Yeah, third to us.
Or maybe second to me.
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What else did we forget?
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Caravan of Garbage
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Get on it.
New ones.
Eric Chen is doing the animations.
Ben's doing the bloody editing.
Filthy Casuals.
Listen to those guys.
We said we'd get more listeners.
We're going to look like
right pricks if we don't.
Yeah, I know, right?
So don't make us liars.
Yeah.
But it is a good show.
I do listen to it every week.
That's it.
That's about it, I think.
Next week? No idea. No idea. We'll think of something. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, no. but it is a good show I do listen to it every week that's it that's about it I think next week no idea
no idea
we'll think of something
yeah maybe
oh no
cut to next week
guys we didn't think of anything
look we just zoned out for a bit
that way back
we don't know
yeah
any topic suggestions
you want to shoot our way
we're happy to do it
there is something lined up
I can't remember what it is
I'll have to think about
it anyway nice thank you
for listening thanks
grab that gem you guys
we'll see you next week
bye
bye
stop it
checking how much
time
that's it that's I think
that's a that's long
enough Mason
bye
people prefer it when
they go longer
that's true
but what do you what
do we do now
it's a round hour
hour 30
that's pretty good it's a solid solid amount of time what do But what do you do? It's around hour 30.
That's pretty good.
It's a solid amount of time.
What do you want from us?
How long does your bloody commute?
What are you going to Mars?
Yeah, what are you going to Mars, you dickhead?
What are you going to Skull Island?
What are you going to Skull Island?
You need a little playlist?
Do you need a playlist for where you're going?
Stop copying me.
Why don't you get your playlist, you dickhead?
This is why we cut it short.
Hey, I'm James, Mr. Sunday Movies, who ate all my paschetti.
Now copy that.
Ah, you son of a gun.
Grab that jimmy, guys. Bye.
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