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Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Weekly Planet,
official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com where we talk movies, comics, TV shows.
My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday.
With me as always is my co-host Nick Mason.
We're here, we're warming up the podcast fingers.
That's what I did just before.
Just before we started, you warmed them up.
Like imagine somebody going like, ooh, ooh, money,
except you were like, mm, content.
That's right, exactly.
Podcast and fun news and entertainment goss.
It's a bit chilly in this regular room.
It doesn't heat well in winter and it gets really hot in summer.
I've been looking for houses.
I don't know if you know that, Mason.
And I walked into one the other day and it had an under the house room.
A dungeon.
A dungeon.
But it was nautical themed.
So the roof-
Wait, what?
The roof was wavy like the ocean.
Yes.
And it had the bottom of a boat stuck into it.
And it was like a-
Davy Jones locker.
Yeah.
It was like, yeah.
So it was all like wood paneling and it was like the-
Did it just constantly play under the sea?
The Little Mermaid?
It was a weird thing I've ever seen.
Was there...
Did it belong to somebody?
Like, was that maybe one of the family members like that was there
instead of building a boat?
Yeah, I think that absolutely what it was.
Because was it anywhere near the water?
No.
So it was just someone who always wanted to build a boat
but didn't have the inclination or a trailer to put the boat on.
So they're just like, or she. But they're just like i'll just that's so weird and
claire was like you could you could work in here and i'm like i'm fucking not working in here i
would love to work in there please buy that house it's so dark like it was so dark like i like
kind of squirreling away you gotta you gotta light some whale oil lanterns if you wanna
if you wanna light that place up.
Do you think it was a real bottom of a boat
or was it a fake bottom of a boat?
I think it was fake.
It was like just a little kind of wooden dinghy kind of thing.
Man, well, it sounds like it would have been warm.
Yeah, it was something.
Anyway, look, if we want to warm this room up,
I guess we could burn some of our man cave rule signs.
But then, you know, how are people going to know our man cave rule signs but then you know how people
are going to know the man cave rules that's a really good point mason yeah uh while you crack
open that loot crate i've got in my lap yeah i'm on a couch i've got a dog and then i'm resting on
top of the dog resting atop the dog is this loot crate you better believe it well why don't we i'll
talk about the first bit of news while you do it don't cut into my dog yeah when you're opening that box too late uh the dark tower trailer yeah right check that out so does that mean we're getting a shared
stephen king of us well maybe because there is a little there's a few little hints there's a little
hint there's well there's one massive hint yeah which is that the kid uh who who arrives from
the real world from dairy main which is the town in It.
Okay.
Well, I was going to say that.
I don't know if he is.
You see him in a forest and there's a big destroyed, like,
building of some sort.
And it says Pennywise in really big letters.
So that's probably the.
That might be it.
Do you think that's what they're doing though?
Is it the same studios who are doing It?
Actually, I don't know.
Let me just double check that.
Because I know Sony are doing the Dark Tower.
Uh-huh.
But what did you think of the trailer, though?
Looks good.
Yeah?
Yeah.
You don't think it looks kind of like Book of Eli?
I mean, it looks a little generic, sure.
A little bit kind of that Keanu Reeves one where he's a samurai.
It's sort of monsters and whatever.
Well, now I've taken all those things on board,
and it seems real bad.
No, I don't know.
I don't think it looks bad.
I just don't think it did.
I liked the gunfighting stuff.
I think we're going to get some sweet gunfighting action.
We're certainly going to get a lot of creative ways
to reload a revolver.
Yes.
Because there's so many in it.
So many already in that two minutes.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Like, I have faith in Idris Elba as a lead,
as an action lead.
Right, right.
I'm looking forward to seeing Matthew McConaughey as an evil man.
An evil, greasy man.
An evil, greasy man, exactly.
No, sorry, Warner Brothers and Uline are doing It,
so I don't think it's the same.
Okay.
Not that it really matters.
Maybe they're referring to Pennywise the punk band.
Ah, is that what it is?
That's the final resting place of Pennywise.
What was their song that they had that i liked
mason do you remember the one that i liked in particular ah no you wouldn't would you it's
probably like track four off literally every single one of their albums because little known
fact every pennywise album is exactly the same there are different songs but they're all the
same okay so they're the red up chili peppers of whatever in a way yeah exactly okay now if
you you may not know this but if you've seen some on-set concept art,
when the kid turns around, there's also a big building that is a shrine.
It's the final resting place of NoFX.
Then there's a Dead Kennedys shrine.
I love NoFX.
And there's another band in that genre.
And then Henry Rollins is there for SubRacid.
Only $60 million budget for this.
It looks a bit more expensive than that.
Yeah, no, it is.
It's Columbia Pictures, so it's Sony,
so they're two different companies.
But yeah, I know there's some controversy about
why is Idris Elba the man in...
No, the other one's the man in black.
Yes, the gunslinger.
The gunslinger, yeah.
So the black guy should be the man in black, I guess,
was the thinking, I suppose.
I guess so.
But I don't know.
That did not even occur to me until just now.
Well, Mason...
And now I'm livid.
I know you don't see race until it's pointed out to you and then you get real angry that's right but uh no it's um i'm a very unobservant racist
just let just let him live his life in peace what do you mean he's asian how dare you
but i um i'm not i don't have any affinity for these characters,
so it doesn't bother me.
But this is the same thing that happened when Idris Elba might have been Bond.
You know, it's the same kind of...
Yeah, I see, right.
I mean, but I think the majority of people don't really care.
But I think also a lot of these people who,
from what I've been reading online and people who have sent me stuff,
who are fans of the book, are kind of like book series,
kind of like, this doesn't look very good.
Really? Okay.
Yeah, like compared to what I enjoy.
I don't even know this,
this plot of a kid from the real world going into the world of the gunslinger.
People are saying last action hero.
Well,
does that happen in the book?
I actually,
I literally don't know.
I've read a few different things about what it is.
I've heard it's a continuation after the series left off,
but I've also heard it's a
time is cyclical in this universe so it just all happens again okay because there is a i know
there's a kid in the books okay who the gunslinger takes under his wing and adopts him and i don't
know if it's the same kid or it's we're probably the best people to certainly the best people yeah
exactly hey in the meantime let's distract from the fact we know nothing about the subject
we're talking about to point out what's in the loot crate.
There's a little Jessica Jones Q-fig.
She's kicking over a wall.
It is the Netflix version.
Yes, it is, yeah.
Very good, Mason.
She's got a little scarf.
That's very good.
She's enraged, but she's also very happy about kicking over the wall.
I liked the Hulk one we got from that.
We got a Hulk one.
We got a Harley Quinn.
We got a Doctor Strange, which I enjoy a lot.
Was the Wolverine one a Q-figure?
That was a Q-figure, yeah.
Okay, yeah.
Nice.
They're doing some good work.
Yeah, good work.
Who are they?
I don't know.
Where did they come from?
I don't know.
That's all right.
Anyway, look, Dark Tower.
I remember a Q-figure for a pop vinyl, I feel.
Yeah, I think I do too, yeah.
Pop vinyl for me as well, there's too many now.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't even know where to start.
Because I know a lot of people who have started, you know,
buying them are now like,
I can only get the very specific Marvel ones now as opposed to whatever.
I think we've spoken of this before, but, you know,
the Batman black and white figurines.
Yes.
Which is, you know, there's a Jim Lee version,
there's a Mike Mignola or whatever.
And I think those are cool.
And if I was going to collect anything, I'd collect those.
But now there's like 45 of them and they're all $300.
So I'm like, if I get one, I kind of have to get –
because if you get the Mike Mignola one on its own,
because it's the Mike Mignola style.
He's kind of a crinkled up old man.
And if I just get that, people will be like,
what did you get this much?
Did your Batman figure melt or something?
So I'd need another one to be like, no, no,
they're different styles in a variety of different ones.
Yeah, you'd need at least three?
Yeah, at least three or four probably, yeah.
Not two.
Two's weird.
Two's weird, exactly.
Like, was one of them Robin?
What is this?
Is that Alfred in a Batman suit?
But look, Dark Tower, we'll definitely see it, obviously.
Yeah, totally.
It's been a long time coming.
Like, Ron Howard was going to do it.
They were talking about doing a TV series at the same time
that was a prequel or a set of, I don't know.
But this is, it seems like they just went,
we'll just kind of do a condensed version of some of the books.
Yeah, you're right.
I don't know.
I mean, because I just finished It, which I did enjoy.
There's some weird shit in that book.
So I've been thinking about doing the audiobooks for Darktow,
but there's a lot as far as I can tell.
Who's narrating the audiobooks?
I have no idea.
What if it were Idris Elba? What if it were Matthew McConaughey? I have no idea. What if it were Idris Elba?
What if it were Matthew McConaughey?
It'd be outrageous.
What if it was sentence by sentence, McConaughey, then Elba?
How good would that be?
That would be pretty good.
We should do a Stephen King episode based on the movies of his that we've seen.
The Mist.
I never saw the IT TV series.
Yep.
The Shining.
The Stand.
The Stand.
Dream Catcher. The Shining. The Stand. The Stand. Dream Catcher.
The Mist again.
Because we just have to keep talking about that weird, gross ending.
I like The Mist.
Yeah, me too.
All right.
I think I could watch it again, though.
You could or you couldn't?
I couldn't, I feel.
Okay.
Well, let's talk Blade Runner, Mason.
Okay.
By the time this goes up, the Blade Runner trailer might be out or very close to coming
out. But we've got like a 15-second snippet.
In three days it'll be out.
And that was a day ago, and I was frantically searching.
And that's three days US as well.
Yeah, which is like five days in Australia.
Yeah.
But we also got a couple of posters as well.
Yeah, which look great.
They are suitable for framing those posters, I feel.
Because a lot of posters are now...
Put them in the man cave.
What?
Put them in the man cave?
The nautical-themed man cave?
Yes.
You know what?
Getting back to that place,
if we do end up buying that place,
which it's possible...
It's...
I demand it.
We're not working in that room.
Oh, right.
I want to get something built out the back
with a big glass door
so I can see the backyard
in case my kids get mauled by a crow
but I think if when we have a guest
I feel we should record in the Davy Jones locker
but anyway so the Blade Runner
so I was going to say a lot of posters now
are just like it's Chris Pratt's face
like do you know what I mean
like it's Tony Stark in fact when you think about it almost are just like, it's Chris Pratt's face. Like, do you know what I mean?
Like, it's Tony Stark. In fact, when you think about it,
almost every poster these days is just Chris Pratt's face.
Yeah, but this one is, I don't know, there's something about him.
It's just they're a real good man.
And it's Denny Villeneuve.
He did Prisoners.
Did you ever see Prisoners with Hugh Jackman?
No.
Check it out, man.
It's fantastic.
He was busy that day.
I had to see it with, I'm just kidding.
Never fails that joke.
No.
He used to do a film and a movie.
Yeah, he's busy, isn't he?
Yeah.
I didn't see it with him, is what I'm saying.
No, yeah.
I get it.
You get it.
Good.
See, I would have seen it.
I saw it with somebody else.
Yes, right.
A different friend, yeah.
Yeah, but you haven't seen it.
No, not at all.
Just to be clear.
Just to be clear, I haven't seen it with Hugh Jackman
nor any of my other friends. But to be clear, I't seen it with you jackman nor any of my other friends but to be clear i'm not friends with you jackman okay good yeah uh but if i were
friends with you jackman why would i insist on seeing one of his own films with him do you think
you would go to see a movie that you were in with a friend like say i was in a movie say i was in uh
terminator 6 uh-huh and i was in it to be clear are you in Terminator 6 no okay
like I've seen it
like I filmed it
for however many months
and then you
would you then go to me
and go
hey look I'm seeing
Terminator on Tuesday
get me out for two weeks
can you come along with me
not unless you were like
unless you were going to
Vinnie Chase it
and you wanted to see
what the real people
thought about
two weeks after the movie
two weeks after the movie
yeah
so there's like
eight people in the cinema there's like a grandma who's wandered into the wrong film
you know sure what are we talking about uh blade runner there we go but no we saw that very brief
teaser from a few months back and we get a few images from the i don't remember blade runner
enough apparently there's a lot of stuff here that is like oh that's very interesting because
that ties back to whatever i don't remember i know i remember blade runner but i don't remember anything specifically about the universe
i remember the big pyramid i remember corporations and they'd taken over here's one uh want to put
in put this in your things you miss video harrison ford's in both films what yeah he is the same
actor same actor yeah potentially playing the same character but we don't actually know yet
well he's a rebert maybe or is he depending i read an article that said well he's he's aged so he's definitely not
a replicant doesn't know anything doesn't matter look at the terminator 5 or 6 the one that i'm in
what happened in that one yeah exactly so i don't think it it matters do you think it's going to
turn out that the goose is a replicant or at the very least he'll uh he'll look in the mirror and
he'll be like who am i what if they left it ambiguous what if they left it ambiguous again and we had
to wait another 30 years for the next one for the goose to return the goose to return and he's being
investigated by another blade runner who's a kid actor i don't know he's gonna say macaulay culkin
but he's grown up hasn't he sure has he's very old now fuck it he's investigated by McCauley Culkin in his probably 60s yeah wow and Harrison Ford is dead because he'd be over 100 or do you
reckon they'd get him back uh they would get him back using whatever copying dead celebrity
technology they have in the future which will which be in the future just to plug it in your
phone like a snapchat yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.
Do you reckon that'll be like celebrities will farm out their likenesses so you can just – because I've seen – there is technology
where you can map your face onto a celebrity and you can talk
and it looks like it kind of matches one to one.
So, like, you can buy – I was going to say Natalie Imbruglia's face.
I don't know why that was the one that I thought of.
90s, early 2000s Australian pop star Natalie Imbruglia.
Maybe. I donuglia. Maybe.
I don't know.
Maybe she's at the vanguard of this new technology.
Who's to say?
Would you sell your face to be used in a Snapchat?
I don't know.
I'm torn, in a way.
It's very good.
That was her big thing.
It was a song, yeah.
But yeah, good.
No, I reckon in the future,
it might even be a case where celebrities,
they aren't even in a movie right but they just
license their face out and somebody else plays them and they just put the the face over the top
okay you'd have to be a pretty big star to do that but do you think it would also be like
i'm i'm an up-and-coming actor or i'm a background actor you can just use my face for whatever it's
like free software do you know what i mean like it's like you know what i mean like you can you know i think if i think if movie studios get that idea they will attempt to
put it in all their contracts right like if we use you in this movie we can also use your face
in every crowd scene for the rest of eternity absolutely i think i think if somebody figures
that out if you're listening movie executives don't do this now you can yeah you can do it
it's fine give us a cut uh but i think they'll attempt to do that okay yeah absolutely yeah i'm sure you'd have to get some residuals
for using your actual probably yeah yeah but no i i think that yeah i guess that could be it i think
it might i think it might be more a case of like i don't know like a kardashian somebody like that
would just be like license but you can use my face yeah we'll map it out i only have to do this
once and then i can be in movies.
Indefinitely.
Indefinitely, yeah.
But do you also think like- Then you don't have to learn how to act.
Do you think-
Yeah, that's right.
You can just be in movies.
Do you think there'll be one particular face
and I don't know who it'll be in particular
that will become like the Wilhelm scream of faces
that will just keep popping up in-
It's like the one that people remember.
Yeah.
Oh, it's Lopsided Joe.
Yeah, exactly.
He's back.
And then in 30 years, there'll be an interview with the guy behind Lopsided Joe.
And he'd be like, I had Bell's Palsy in one side of my face.
It was a bad week.
I got stung by a bee in my face.
And now I'm Lopsided Joe forever.
But Blade Runner looks good, doesn't it?
Yeah.
Even though you hate the first Blade Runner because you had to study it in school.
Correct.
And it means nothing to you anymore.
A lot of people, though, do hate Blade Runner.
Huh.
They don't think it's like this cinematic triumph.
I don't even, I think it's good.
I don't even really remember it, like I said, but there is actual like hate, like this is
boring and overrated and whatever.
But you can't argue Mason against this.
Just get ready, but don't even bother.
I'm ready.
Like it did set the tone for so many sci-fi films.
just get ready but don't even bother i'm ready like it did set the tone for so many sci-fi films every future sci-fi movie that's not the weather world isn't a desert is just blade runner exactly
it's just it's a it's a it's a dark rainy dystopian world and there's holograms on the on
the on the buildings and what have you it's like yeah i feel it's like when people go back to like
a like an uh like an old band like led zeppelin and they're just like, all Pennywise.
And they're just like, who cares?
It's just Zeppelin.
It's like, let's just sped up blues riffs or whatever.
Yeah, that's...
Didn't they rip off a lot of music?
Yeah, they really did.
But I'm just saying, just as an entry point.
Sure.
Because a lot of people still love Zeppelin.
And it's like, but yeah, that's where it started.
Yeah, that's right.
Everybody, it seems...
Well, technically not. Yeah, but like, but yeah, that's where it started. Yeah, that's right, yeah. Everybody, it seems- Well, technically not.
Yeah, but like, you know, the reason it seems old and slow
is because every other band has taken this idea and gone,
okay, well, I'll speed it up and we'll add more drum fills.
Like if you look at like original hip hop.
Yeah.
Like it's very kind of, you know, it's slow and whatever, probably.
Yeah.
Right?
We're talking Blondie.
We're talking Blondie. We're talking Blondie.
We're talking Morris Minor and the Mages stutter rap.
We're talking a run out.
Madonna's American Pie rap.
Have you ever seen that?
No.
I must have done.
Imagine the worst.
We're talking Madonna's Die Another Day soundtrack.
I don't know how anybody could say that's not the worst Bond thing.
Oh, it absolutely is.
Because I heard someone say the Sam Smith one is.
No, that's fine.
It's fine.
I mean, it's just like an Adele knockoff.
Yeah.
Like it's not, it's not a fantastic song, but that Madonna song sounds like a cat fighting
with an electric guitar.
It's really, it's really something.
I think that Sam Smith one works well because it's the final part of that storyline and it's like a – anyway.
Or is it?
Maybe he's got another brother or another dad.
Yeah, man, we can only hope.
Who knows, yeah.
Anyway, we should move on.
Strange Things T, check it out.
Very nice.
Very good.
What's that in the style of?
It looks quite – it looks kind of – I don't know if it's anything.
It's like 1960s kind of comic-y.
Yeah, I feel it's kind of – it looks kind of like a Tales to Astonish or like a Tales from the Crypt kind of situation I don't think. It's like 1960s kind of comic-y. Yeah, I feel it's kind of, it looks like kind of like a Tales to Astonish or like a Tales
from the Crypt kind of situation.
I like that.
Strange tales.
Some sort of tales situation.
Yes.
We've got 11.
We've got a big old, the big old monster.
We've got some other people.
Yeah, I know them all.
Pretty good.
I could name them all.
That must be coming out.
I think it's later this year, actually.
Yeah.
It's coming back, baby.
Is there?
No, I just thought I had some, I'm thinking a bit of feedback in this. I'm sure it's fine, Mason. It's coming back, baby. Is there... I just thought I had some... I'm thinking of a bit of feedback in this.
I'm sure it's fine, Mason.
It's probably fine.
I'm sure everybody won't hear it
and be bothered by it for the rest of the show.
Another trailer.
This is all happening.
Dunkirk.
Christopher Nolan's war epic.
A lot of trailers this week.
Yeah.
You okay with that?
Yeah.
Okay, good.
This movie still feels to me...
The trailers still feel to me like
there's another wrinkle to it.
And I know there isn't.
Because it's based off an historical event.
Yes, exactly.
But it feels like Nolan's cinematography always feels to me like
I'm just waiting for another shoe to drop
and it's going to be some sort of weird supernatural thing.
But there isn't.
To be clear, there isn't.
I don't think there is.
It's just a Dunkirk.
It's a straight-up Dunkirk.
Just like your grandpa does not remember. This ain't my grandpa's Dunkirk, there isn't. I don't think there is. It's just a Dunkirk. It's a straight-up Dunkirk. Just like your grandpa does not remember fondly.
This ain't my grandpappy's Dunkirk, except it is.
In this case, it very much is.
This ain't my grandpappy's Dunkirk, because he was a draft dodger.
Was he?
No, I don't know.
Yeah.
My grandpa, he was a bomber.
He did tell me this funny story once.
Oh, here we go.
He told my dad this story.
He was a navigator on a mosquito.
Not a literal mosquito. It's a two-man bomber from World War I. That would be very tricky. Oh, here we go. So he told my, no, well, he told my dad this story. He was a navigator on a mosquito. Not a literal mosquito.
It's a two-man bomber
from World War I.
That would be very tricky.
Up, down, left.
No, up, left, right.
Oh, God.
Stay back, guy.
Don't get slapped.
But he was flying out of...
Don't head to the bugs.
Oh, no.
I'm fired for sure.
He was flying home
from a mission
and they passed
a German farmer
and he was coming
out of his outhouse.
A Luft farmer? A Luft farmer. I think it was a German farmer. It was, but anyway farmer and he was coming out of his outhouse. A Luft farmer?
A Luft farmer.
I think it was a German farmer.
But anyway, and he was young.
He was like early 20s.
As the guy was walking back to his house,
they circled the plane around to come back and the guy ran for cover.
But they didn't shoot the guy.
They didn't shoot his house.
They just bulldozed his toilet and then flew off.
That's pretty funny.
That's pretty good.
I mean, he could have shot a farmer to death.
He didn't because he was a man of honour.
I feel like that's something that I would do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know whether I should leave that in or not.
No, you leave that in.
You leave it in.
What have we got here?
Dunkirk, though.
Anything else about Dunkirk?
So you hate the Christopher Nolan wrinkle, don't you?
Like the weird plot element that usually ruins the movie.
So maybe I'll really enjoy this.
Yeah, straight up.
Yeah, but also I don't really like war movies.
Do you like Saving Private Ryan?
No.
Really?
I'll watch him, but there's no...
Have you gone back and re-watched Saving Private Ryan?
No.
Every time I...
I like it, but every time I think about it, I'm like,
I don't want to sit through that D-Day.
That's what I'm talking about.
That 10 minute.
Oh, it's an amazing sequence.
Don't get me wrong.
It's a, it's a four, everything's a foregone conclusion.
Yeah.
And there's a lot of carnage.
Yeah.
A lot of people losing their legs.
So many carnage.
You shouldn't watch Hacksaw Ridge then.
That's just all people losing their legs.
Getting their lips cut off.
Okay, great.
That's all, that's all that is.
Yeah.
But no, look, what I like about this,
Christopher Nolan feels like
he's one of the few directors nowadays
that doesn't feel like
there's a studio kind of
forcing his hand to make a movie.
Like he feels like very old school
in that kind of way
that Spielberg and Ridley Scott
and that were.
You know what I mean?
They're directors
with a very particular vision
and their movies are events
without having to be
a superhero movie or a blockbuster. You know i mean like he can make whatever he wants like
tarantino even yeah and everybody will still go and see it and that's true in the sense that
he's he's made this movie because he wants to tell he's clearly something about this story
has spoken to him and he wants to tell it nobody in the world was crying out for a dunkirk movie
no no i don't know i don't think so maybe Maybe they were. But no, I'm looking forward to it in a harrowing way.
Are we going to do a video or a podcast about it?
What are we doing?
I guess so.
Because he's one of those directors, isn't he, Mason?
Yeah, that's right.
He's a genre man.
He's a genre man.
Jen Ray.
What's that in your hand?
Oh, it's X-Files pencils.
Coloured?
No, writing pencils.
Okay.
You know, like the FBI would use for writing.
Secrets.
Secrets.
They say, and one says the truth is out there,
one says I want to believe,
one says trust no one,
and one says that's why they put the I in FBI.
They sound like, it sounds like a wacky group,
like they've all got a different personality.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like a pop group.
One says, FBI, you don't have to be crazy to work here, but it helps.
One's the sexy one.
Yeah, that's right.
So it's the sex in the city of pencils.
Yes, exactly.
That's right, yes.
But X-File things.
Yeah, exactly.
Very good.
Are they rubber tipped?
They've got an eraser.
Look how nice they are.
Look, it's a classic pencil.
You can't get these at your pencil store, can you?
Mason, I used to work at a bookstore, Mason, a school bookstore,
and that brings me right back to that.
I'm having flashbacks to that wonderful job I used to work.
All right, what's next?
Wonder Woman.
Plus, if you sharpen these pencils down far enough,
this one will say, the truth is out.
It's very thematically appropriate for this day and age,
if you ask me.
No, we have a question about...
Or just trust.
Pretty good.
That's important.
Yeah, I think so.
Do you think someone's going to go in and,
if they were Mulder's pencils,
like the government would go in and shave them down?
Yeah, that's right, yeah.
So it says he looks down one day and he's like,
oh, trust.
Oh, okay, cool.
I guess I will.
I guess I will then, yeah. So I want to talk about the Wonder's like, oh, trust. Okay, cool. I guess I will. I guess I will then, yeah.
So I want to talk about the Wonder Woman marketing or lack of.
Yeah, right.
There's a letter for that, so we'll save that till the end.
Okay, cool.
But what we can talk about in the meantime, Mason,
there was a Wonder Woman clip.
Yes, there was.
It was the first clip released online.
Hang on, is this the one that was the alleyway fight?
Alleyway blocking a bullet in the alley.
What do you think?
Love it.
Yeah, I like the way it looks.
Looks fun.
The only thing that I don't like about it is I wasn't sure what Chris Pine's plan was.
He's like, he headbutted it.
Like there was four guys with guns on him.
Yes.
He headbutted one and then went, stand back.
His plan was to absorb a whole bunch of bullets, I feel.
Like he didn't even, he hit one guy and then stood back.
I did enjoy that at the end of the fight,'t even hit one guy and then stood back. I did enjoy that. The,
at the end of the fight,
he hit that one guy,
like at the end,
he pops that one guy in the face and he falls over 1930 serial style.
Like he kind of fell over and in Indiana Jones kind of fashion,
like a bit of a spin.
Yeah.
A bit of a spin.
And then a slow tumble to the ground.
Oh,
good.
Good.
Pretty good.
Yeah.
It is very kind of Chris Reeve,
Superman.
Yeah.
No,
in the alleyway,
catching the bullet.
What did you like? Did you enjoy that? Her bracelets kind of. They have Superman yeah you know in the alleyway catching the bullet kind of situation
what did you like
did you enjoy
that her bracelets
kind of
they have a bit of a
like a heat
yeah
no no I like that
I didn't like that
why not
why don't you like it
I think it's good to know
I think it's a good visual
kind of
yeah I guess so
element
you don't like the way
the whip looks
when it glows
yeah
why not
is it too glowy
yes
effects are a bit bloody ropey it's good I'm bloody ropeable We don't like the way the whip looks when it glows either, do we? Yeah. Why not? Is it too glowy? Yes. Okay.
Yeah.
It affects a bit bloody ropey if you ask me.
That's good.
I'm bloody ropeable about it.
Yep.
But we'll talk more about-
Yeah, it looks pretty good.
Yeah, it looks pretty good.
And I watched another trailer.
Yeah.
It's pretty good.
They're putting some jokes in there.
It's nice.
It does feel like, I mean, I know it's a World War I era film,
but it does feel very Captain America, the first Avenger.
Yeah.
Which I don't care with because I love that movie.
And I like movies set in all eras.
And I like her little glasses.
You like the little glasses?
They're good, yeah.
I'm still not 100% that she's the best choice for it.
But, you know, we'll see, won't we?
Yeah.
Won't we, Mason?
Yes, we will.
And people always say,
what about Heath Ledger's Joker?
What about Jesse Eisenberg?
You know what I mean?
For every Heath Ledger's Joker,
there's a Jesse Eisenberg.
You never know.
That's correct, yeah.
And then you also have people in the middle
who do just fine.
That's true.
Like a Henry Cavill.
He's fine.
He's fine.
Yeah.
All right.
Marbles in Humans got a teaser trailer.
Which told us and showed us nothing.
Yeah.
There was something about overthrowing someone else.
Yep.
Presumably Black Bolt.
And then we got-
Do you know what his real name is?
No.
It's Blackagar Boltagon.
Is it really?
Yes.
Blackagar Boltagon.
Correct.
Great.
I'm just going to double check.
That's off the top of my head.
I just remembered that, but I'm just going to double check. I need to know whether that's true, and I need to know now. Or I'm bloody having a lender view. Correct. Great. I'm just going to double check. That's off the top of my head. I just remembered that, but I'm just going to double check.
I need to know whether that's true, and I need to know now.
Or I'm bloody having a lender view.
Yeah.
Look, if it's not that, it's almost equally stupid.
Well, look, if it's not that, that's what we're going to call it.
His name is Blackagar Baltagon.
Very good.
Yep.
Yeah.
It's very convenient.
Yes, it is in a way.
Do you think the name Blackbolt came first, and then they retconned it to be yeah i know his real name is black garb yes it's not like they called him they were like
they went to the they went in the marvel offices one day and somebody's like i've got an idea for
like a superhero secret identity his name's gonna be black agar baltagon but i just can't think of
the name i guess he could be like a like a regular guy when he's in his costume, what is he then?
I don't know.
And then just some intern.
We cut to this montage and it's on a blackboard.
It's not the whiteboard.
A black-a-gar board.
Yeah.
And they're just going back.
It's the 60s and they're just going back and forth
and they're drinking cups of coffee and days on the calendar are flying off.
Everyone's darting off.
Exactly.
And then one day, like a young Stanley who should be there already because he's a middle-aged man at this point.
He's 44.
And he just walks up and he scratches off a gar and a gond.
People are like, he started again.
Who is this wonder kid?
Yeah, he would have been there.
Well, this happened, they were from the 60s, is that right?
Correct. So, yeah, he started in like early 40s Well, this happened... They were from the 60s, is that right? Correct.
So, yeah, he started in like early 40s, I want to say, late 30s.
Yeah, anyway, there was also a poster, which is almost a good poster.
No, it's not.
It's real bad.
Yeah, but there's one element...
Fair enough.
But there's one element in particular that I find really off, and it's the wig, man.
It's the wig on...
Medusa's hair.
Yeah, it's real weird.
So, for anybody who doesn't know the Inhumans, they're basically the x-men yes but they're from the moon yep um but the queen of the
inhumans is medusa yes and she has sort of prehensile hair yeah and you would think that
in this poster maybe they're keeping this a secret like if you don't know the inhumans you don't know
what they can do yeah but but but are you if you don't know the Inhumans, you don't know what they can do.
Yeah, but...
But if you don't know, are you intrigued by any of these characters?
No.
No, exactly, right?
But that's a real obvious wig.
And I think you'd have to do a wig for the hair
because it'd have to do all sorts of stuff.
Or bald, or bald cap, and then CGI everything.
Sure, exactly.
But again, it is...
Well, some of them are going to imax but the rest of tv i
feel if i saw this out of context without any any information and you told me that it was like a
bunch of cosplayers yeah at a convention and they'd all decided to dress up as the inhumans i'd be
like oh isn't this fun right yeah it's pretty great pretty close pretty good isn't it yeah
but do you like the no mask on the Black Bolt?
It's fine.
Yeah.
I mean, he's going to need to do some serious emoting.
Well, I read a piece on that, and they were talking about how-
Because Black Agar-Boltagon cannot speak, as you know.
Well, he can scream and kill you.
I mean, he can speak, certainly, yes.
But they were talking about how in the comics, like, he doesn't-
they do a good way-
they do well at kind of conveying what he needs to say.
Yes.
Because he's the main character.
They've kind of worked around it.
There's no internal monologue.
Yep.
So there'll probably be a bit of mind reading in that as well going on and whatnot.
But it's going to be a lot of like.
There'll be telepathy.
Yeah.
And there's not going to be a lot of, sorry, there is going to be a lot of like visual cues.
Like if he's okay with something, he might give one of these okay symbols. and then you know that he's okay with it yeah yeah great thumbs up thumbs down yeah
one thumb up one thumb down he's conflicted about things his highness is conflicted one thumb down
but no look it doesn't he's doing the international symbol for i don't know
the two hands raised with the palms open and up.
And the most evil man of the universe is in it, which I forgot,
the guy from Game of Thrones.
Which guy?
The guy who got eaten by dogs.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Do you think he's a bad guy?
Probably.
Probably, right?
Yeah.
I think he's Black Bolt's brother.
Oh, yeah, Maximus.
Oh, yes.
The guy on the right.
Yeah, is he a bad guy? No, he's Black Bolt's brother. Yeah. wrong yeah Maximus oh yes the guy on the right yeah is he a bad guy
no he's
well he's Black Bolt's brother
yeah
I'm gonna assume yes
okay good
I can't remember
what's his powers
he's like a
is his name Maximus Baltagon
probably
he's got
he's like mental control
he's got like
your Professor X style powers
alright
yeah
these are very similar
to the X-Men in a lot of ways
in a lot of ways which is a lot of ways they are.
Which is interesting because on the very far left we have Gorgon
who has seismic shockwave powers.
Yes.
Whose powers are identical to...
Quake.
Yes.
Who was also an Inhuman in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Yeah.
And there's also X-Men characters.
Maybe they already had the special effects plug-in.
They got the Snapchat filter.
Okay. But look, I still want to see it like it's weird they didn't put the dog in man i'm all about that dog i want to know what it looks like but uh i think that
they'll be safe in the dog but i think they they probably should have done something with their
hair yeah then it's just then it'd just be that you could have what if you kind of like splayed
it out a little bit you know what i? Like it was doing stuff in the poster.
Or even just make it look like better hair.
Yeah, better hair.
Give it a bit more bounce.
Sure.
Give it a bit more life.
It looks so lifeless.
And again, I think maybe that's a... But it's moon hair.
It hasn't had much oxygen, has it?
Yeah, but it's got less gravity.
Yeah, good point.
So I think...
Look, I understand maybe they've done this deliberately.
So if you don't know anything about the Inhumans,
you don't know she's got that ability,
and then you're shocked.
But then it's just the boring poster.
It is a boring poster, exactly.
Give us more.
All right, I will, next time.
I'll mock something up most, and I won't.
Nah.
What else have we got?
Oh, last couple of things, and it looked great.
All right.
First of all, downloadable comics,
which is always good.
We got some X-Files comics.
Very good.
And we got a series called,
first couple of issues of a series called Metropolis,
which I don't know anything about.
I don't know that.
Nope, don't know.
Okay, cool.
Little reporty pin,
little tape recorder pin,
and Batman mug.
How about that?
You're a bloody mug.
Wait, oh, that's,
nah, come on, mate.
Ah, sorry. You can put your pencils in it. Nah, it's a colour changing mug. Wait, oh, that's not. Come on, mate. Ah, sorry. You can put your
pencils in it. No, it's a colour changing mug.
Yeah, you can colour it in.
Yeah, good point. Alright, continue. Show me the mug. Oh, okay.
Gotham City Skyline mug.
Yeah, but when you put hot water in, what do you get?
Tea. No!
I mean,
certainly it's possible. You get a bloody bat signal yeah that's pretty good
it's pretty good right we'll test it after the show mason okay i gave mine to levens yeah you
did fuck yeah when levens came i should have given the one of the older ones you didn't know
if you're listening give me that goddamn mug back send it all back all right what do we got i'll
quickly do that bad copy for this oh yeah cool maze theme
so the next month's theme is uh guardians oh uh so the franchises that they're going to be
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It's probably naked Groot.
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interesting
and also you could
win a thing
yes
every time I see
those sideshow things I'm like like, I should buy one.
But I'm so overwhelmed by them.
That's the thing about not knowing where to start.
Again, there's so many.
Mason, if you were thinking that we're moving away from the news,
you were wrong because there's two more things.
Two more things.
Four Game of Thrones spin-offs are in development.
Doesn't mean we'll get all four, but they're developing them.
Oh, tell me about them.
I can't. That's all but they're developing them. Oh, tell me about them. I can't.
That's all that we know about them.
One will probably be Dunkin' Egg,
which is a comic series based on it as well.
That's a prequel when the Targaryens were still in power.
What's the name of the guy with the books?
Samuel Tarly.
Samuel Tarly's Library of Wonder.
Every week he learns a new fact from his little books.
He's certainly not going to die in a fire
that consumes his library and him and his loved ones.
Do you think he'll go to leave?
Like he can't leave his books?
He has to stay?
So he could leave but he'd rather die with the knowledge?
No, I think he's going to be crushed by a bookshelf
and then burned to death.
Because it's going to be the most horrendous way.
I think his legs are going to get crushed by a bookshelf,
leaving only his torso and his arms free,
and then his hands are going to get crushed by another bookshelf,
and then another burning bookshelf is going to land on his head
and he's going to burn to death.
You mark my words.
No one gets out alive in that grim old universe that you love so much
and everybody loves, I hate.
There's also the theory, and I think somebody might have sent this through,
that he's the guy who's chronicled it all.
So he lives through.
So he throws that book out of the door as he dies.
As he dies, yeah.
But no, is there anything from Game of Thrones you'd like to see as a spin-off?
Do you want to see like young Ned Stark adventures?
Like young Hercules with Ryan Gosling?
No.
Do you want to see like the Golden Age of Dragons?
Yeah, kind of.
Okay.
Is there an option for one with heaps more magic?
And everybody's doing magic all the time?
Just the past, I guess.
Yeah, that sounds pretty good.
Okay, I like that.
We also don't know how this is going to end.
So maybe they go ahead.
Maybe there's sequels.
I feel the problem with it is there's not a lot of room
for standalone...
Stories?
Yeah.
My thought just then was, well, why not a series
about those face-changing assassin types?
Yeah.
But then I'm like, all that would sort of feed
into the regular storyline.
Also, those guys suck.
Yeah.
In a way.
Yeah.
What was the point of that again? For Arya to learn how to change faces and those guys suck. Yeah. Yeah. In a way. Yeah. What was the point of that again?
Oh, for Arya to learn how to change faces
and then run away.
Yeah.
And kill that girl.
Yeah.
Kill that other girl.
And then it's that weird Middle Eastern place,
but that was no good.
Yeah, it was boring.
That storyline was no good.
Yeah.
What about the further adventures
of Jaime Lannister's hand,
severed hand?
It goes off on its own.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think if there's a character i'd
really want because i think also a lot of the stuff we're getting about john snow's origin
and spoiler alert by the way and ned stark and yeah like a lot of that they go i think they have
they've covered a little bit and they're going to cover more so i don't know whether we necessarily
need something from that from that time period though it would be interesting to say maybe do
like a just one season maybe do like yeah
right six episodes or whatever and and kind of yeah because i i've been watching better call
saul yes it's great it's fantastic the people i talk about it the same way they do breaking bad
but it's it's as good okay i think yeah have you been watching it no yeah it's not it's well
several episodes in a season one so yeah no it's really solid it's really good but no more game of
thrones i say good oh hang on so what are the other ones i don't know i have no no right yeah
okay i i don't i don't really i don't know the law as well as say george rr martin oh no yeah
judge dread i don't yeah no i'd probably know more about game of thrones he knows more about the law
oh is that what you're doing is the law very law. Very good, Mason. You're doing good jokes this episode.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Calling them jokes is very charitable.
Thank you.
I'll take it.
Good things happening.
We also, last bit of news, The Defenders has a trailer.
Yeah, it does.
What do you think it...
Hallway fights are back, baby.
You better believe it.
And finally, in a hallway big enough for four people, for four protagonists to fight people.
Yes.
Yeah.
Did you see the gif of Iron Fist not really doing anything?
No, but it sounds great.
Yeah, he's doing kind of a weird shuffle,
kind of waiting for his choreography to kick in.
Everybody's back.
Luke Cage.
Iron Fist.
Jessica Jones.
Dead Evil.
Blind David Carradine.
Yay.
Sigourney Weaver's back.
Yay.
It does look good. Yay. Sigourney Weaver's back. Yay. It does look good.
Yep.
It's also, it opens with like the two characters from the weakest seasons having a bit of a
bloody punch up in the alley.
I do like the iron fist effect on the Luke Cage face.
It's pretty good.
That's pretty good.
Yeah.
But I'm really looking forward to this.
I'm looking, you know what I'm looking forward to based on this trailer?
I'm looking forward to some pushback against Iron Fist and his weird fortune cookie yes like he's like i'm the immortal iron fist and i and cage is like what
shut up you're an idiot so if there can be more of that if you know what it it kind of is it might
even be worth it if they become a team because luke cage is like listen grow up a bit yeah stop
being such a weirdo we'll get along if you just grow up and stop being this annoying kid.
And have a shower.
Yeah, exactly.
You weirdo.
But come on.
It's going to be, I hope it's going to be good.
Again, I did a video on it recently.
It's only eight.
So just bloody pump out a solid eight, get it done.
There'll be hopefully some good action sequences because they've been a bit lackluster these
last two seasons. Yeah, yeah. yeah but hey let's get into it
mason yeah also i i'm not 100 sure but i'm pretty sure that in that hallway fight scene um
iron fist is wearing bruce lee's sneakers from game of death oh really the yellow ones the
yellow so maybe i don't know maybe you've seen game of death yeah is it good they're all right
but it doesn't have good fights.
Do they have good fights?
Not these.
Oh, brutal.
But that's the thing.
They're real fights, though.
That's the thing.
Yeah, so if you compare it to like Ong Bak or like The Raid, it's not.
It's no good compared to The Raid.
No, I'd never go back.
But would you say it's better than a lot of modern choreography, though?
Ah, I don't know.
Have you seen Enter the Dragon?
No.
There's a lot of fights that they're just like he goes up against
his first fight and they just bow and then Bruce Lee just drops him.
That's not fun.
And then Bruce Lee just drops him like three times in a row
and then the fight's over.
That's not fun. No. I mean, obviously he's not fun. And then Bruce Lee just drops him like three times in a row and then the fight's over. That's not fun.
No.
I mean, obviously he's the best.
But does he fight someone who's more his match?
Like a Kareem Abdul-Jabbar?
Yes, later.
In one of them?
Yeah, yeah.
And a Chuck Norris?
I can't remember.
I feel like Bruce Lee would kill Chuck Norris.
I don't think that's a fair fight at all.
Anyway, just saying.
All right, Mason.
Yes.
We've got to talk about Guardians
oh wait before we do that
Mason
what are we going to do
before we do that
I just remembered
this week I was on
an episode of
2 in the Think Tank
I listened to that
it was very funny
so our friends over at
2 in the Think Tank
Andy and Al
part of Planet Broadcasting
they
invited me on
and it's a show
where every week
they attempt to come up
with 5 sketch ideas
or 7 if the first five
aren't very good.
We came up with ten.
Was that how many there were?
Oh, there was
because there was a few
that got broken up.
They were like spin-off sketches
of other sketches.
No, I really enjoyed it.
It was very funny.
So everybody should check that out.
It's real good.
They're real funny guys.
And also I think
the episode of Steel Wars
I did a few weeks ago
is out this week as well.
Oh, okay.
So you want to check that out.
Is that a live one?
It's me and George Lucas, yes.
Who is tired of talking
about Star Wars,
so he's just talking about his other hobby,
which is hunting humans on his ranch.
Very good.
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mason yes guardians of the galaxy volume 2 it's finally here two weeks ago yep uh for us it's
they reckon it's going to make about 140 to 150 million
US opening
seems like a lot
which is about
40 to 50 million
more than it made
the last one made
okay
opening weekend
great
which was a really good
that was really good
at the time
because that was
a new property
and people didn't know
who any of these
characters were
but this one
is succeeding
everyone knows
all the characters
expectations
that's right
they did it in one movie
as opposed to
doing it in more movies.
Yeah, so we recently did a commentary on the first one.
We did, yeah.
It still holds up.
That movie from three years ago, two or three years ago, yeah.
Yeah.
So great.
I think the third act is probably the weakest in that movie.
I think this movie might have a better third act than that one.
Anyway.
Yeah, maybe.
We'll get into that.
We'll get into that.
But I think, yeah, again, I think we spoke about on the commentary,
they kind of earned that third act.
Yes.
Like, it's a bit silly, the first one, but...
I just meant all the spaceships and whatever.
Oh, sure, sure, sure.
All that kind of shooty-shooty, like, you're just kind of like,
who's what and who cares about any of this, yeah.
So we're going to do non-spoilers and then spoilers, as always.
Okay, let's do it.
But there's a good chance we'll probably just spoil something by accident.
Yeah, we'd love to do that. Yeah.ilers and then spoilers as always okay let's do it there's a good chance we'll probably just spoil something by accident yeah we love to do that yeah but there's time
codes exactly mason but what do you think the story was and is still oh no so this is set about
a couple of months after the first one the year of 2014 it's still 2014 in this what an era can
you remember 2014 no what happened yeah well can 2014 just be over, please?
Guys.
Yeah, no, I don't.
So let's see.
The Guardians of the Galaxy.
I got married in 2014.
There you go.
That's a fun little, okay, good.
That happened, yeah. Right, okay.
You were there.
Yes.
I had to think for a minute, but I was there, yes.
Go on.
So let's see. The Guardians of the Galaxy have some renown
because they saved the galaxy that time.
Yep.
Let's see, what do they do?
What are they bloody up to?
I guess they're just kind of guns for hire,
guardians for hire, if you will.
Yes, exactly, yeah.
And they're just kind of fanny about the galaxy.
Is that a verb?
Yep, and they're just doing odd jobs, bits and bobs.
Yep.
Throw it all out there.
Yeah.
For cash, for coin.
Yep.
Off the back of their reputation.
Yep.
Yeah.
The twig Groot from the end of the first Guardians of the Galaxy
has grown into baby Groot.
Yeah.
Finally, we see him in action.
He's like an actual baby.
They really got some baby stuff happening there.
Well, I can't relate to that.
No, you wouldn't.
Yeah.
As a father, Mason.
It's a love and compassion only I could understand.
So anyway, they're doing a job for the sovereign, the alien race, the sovereign.
Gold people.
Yeah.
We see in the trailer.
Yep. the trailer yep yeah and then then yeah then bloody buddy we meet uh we meet uh kurt russell's
ego yeah who's like hey peter i'm your father so that's in the trailer yeah and and then it kind
of goes from there uh-huh so that's like the first like 15 minutes yep and then it goes in actually
i've got a i've got a question here it's from uh andy pants says do you think us not knowing much
about guardians of the galaxy from the trailers helped make it a better movie oh i think yes 100 there's a lot of
stuff in this i'm like didn't know that didn't know that oh that's interesting what a revelation
oh yeah but then again like when i went back for my because i did an easter egg video mason it's
linked below it's very comprehensive and i took a lot of footage and clips and whatever from various
trailers from what i was able to find there's a lot of footage and clips and whatever from various trailers from what I was able to find.
There's a lot of jokes and information that were out there.
Yes.
Cause I stopped watching it.
I'm like, I watched a couple of trailers and I don't know.
So I think if you're looking for it, you could have spoiled a lot of stuff for yourself if
you wanted to.
But no, I think that that definitely helped.
Yeah.
Cause I feel like, like, do you remember the amazing Spider-Man 2?
They released something like 40 minutes of footage before that movie came out.
That was insane.
Yeah, and then it only benefited from it,
because we knew it would be not very good.
And that was one of those movies where you keep looking
for plot points that never eventuate,
because they put them in the trailer but never in the movie.
Yeah, yeah.
Suicide Squad was a bit like that as well, I guess,
because there's stuff taken in and out.
And Rogue One, stuff taken in and out. And Rogue One.
Stuff taken in and out of that. That's true, yeah.
And whatever.
But yeah, look, the cast is back, Mason.
Baby.
Do you think...
Good?
Good cast, yeah.
Do you think everybody had enough to do?
Like they balanced it out equally?
Like everybody kind of had a little art?
I think they did, yeah.
Some more than others.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, we'll get into that in spoilers,
but I think all the major cast did.
Yeah, it's really a Peter Quill kind of movie.
Yeah, but everybody gets an action sequence
or something to do.
Rocket Raccoon gets his own little bits and pieces.
Yondu gets some action in there.
Yeah, gets a bit of play, yeah.
Gamora becomes more like the character she is in the comic books, I feel.
Is she more dangerous?
Yeah, more dangerous and deadly.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
I wouldn't say so.
I wouldn't say she...
Nebula, I feel, belongs in a different movie.
Yeah, is that...
I thought...
But I think that's because she's mad.
Right, okay.
Like she's an insane person.
She's actually...
Like she is Thanos' daughter.
Right.
In the sense that she's an insane person like she is thanos's daughter right in the sense that
she is completely insane yeah and so her motivations her motivations are very much kind of 1980s
action movie where everybody else is in firmly in the 21st century right like everybody else
everybody has a layer of irony to everything they do in this movie and a kind of like uh
everybody in this movie's at work kind
of thing and everyone everyone's attitude everybody else is what's wrong with you like
there's a yeah yeah yeah but but she's very much like she hasn't she has no chill no she's got zero
no irony but you also kind of find out why that why that is yeah but i i don't know if that's
that character is just she just kind of growls through
the kind of the whole that's true the whole thing i don't know if she you know it's that interesting
of a character maybe we'll get more yeah more of it or maybe we won't maybe she dies who knows
no spoilers no spoilers in this uh yeah we got some sort of drax is great in this yes batista
dave batista yeah he's good he gets a fair bit of fair bit of play do you think it's
do you do you think it had a good jokes i think it did have a
good joke yeah do you think uh the good jokes ever ever uh ruined some dramatic tension i think maybe
once or twice yes there was a probably a couple but on the whole also and i said this in my review
going in i knew that it would be this yes so i wasn't like oh man that's this i was expecting
a super serious action space adventure in earnest.
I know what it is.
So even though not all the jokes worked for me, there wasn't one that I was like, that's a terrible joke.
I don't think that ever happened.
But there was enough good jokes.
You know what?
Really funny jokes.
There's a couple of really good ones. And I think, yeah, again, like all these characters feel like,
like if you were really doing this,
if you were on the Guardians of the Galaxy or in a team like this
and you're really working with these people all day,
there would be jokes.
Yeah, absolutely.
It would be.
It's like any workplace.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Good, good, good.
Jokes, action, dancing, every workplace.
Yeah, absolutely.
Okay, so there's some kind of villainous aspects
that kind of appear that we'll talk about more in spoilers.
But the Sovereign are kind of main-ish kind of villains in this.
And they're this kind of hoity-toity, like easily offended,
holier-than-thou, where the ultimate peak of civilization is where, you know,
where the rich kids of Instagram.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
I feel like they initially they're sort of played off as they're these high
and mighty Royal people.
But as the movie progresses, they, they're sort of just like,
they're just a bunch of bros.
Exactly.
And you,
and you've set in the ways and you've padded yourself on the back so much
that you don't see your own flaws and insecurities.
There's a bit where they're rolling out the little carpet.
Yes.
It just feels like it's kind of, I got the sense of that where it's like a royal family where they've just inbred to the point where they think they're better, but they've done it to the detriment of their species.
Right. Okay. Yeah.
The same way in like Man of Steel, the Kryptonians.
That Clark Kent is inbred yeah yeah no i mean that they've all like everyone's engineered for a
purpose and yes but it's got to the point where you're actually hurting your society by
by doing that yeah and they don't reckon they can't recognize that they think they're so elite
that they don't see that they've they've just fucked themselves up yeah yeah i just i found
that you know kind of interesting and there was some kind of good humor to be had from it.
They kept kind of popping up.
Did you,
were you happy to kind of see him throughout the whole thing?
Were you like,
this is the kind of thing that could have kind of disappeared earlier on?
No,
I enjoyed their appearances.
Okay,
cool.
And one of the Farscape guys was one of them.
He was.
Yeah.
Captain Farscape.
Johnny Farscape.
Johnny Farscape.
I made the mistake in my Easter egg video because I included him,
but I put a picture when he was in Stargate and not in Farscape. Johnny Farscape. I made the mistake in my Easter egg video because I included him, but I put a picture when he was in Stargate and not in Farscape.
All right.
So I got a few comments like, that's Farscape.
I mean, that's Stargate.
I don't know.
I haven't seen either, so I couldn't.
Ben Browder, I believe, is his name.
Okay, cool.
You a Farscape fan?
No.
My brother.
Tim Muppety for my liking.
Tim Muppety, my brother, the one you don't like,
says, reckons that the first Guardians is heavily influenced by Farscape.
Man from Earth goes into space.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
Ragtag aliens.
This did have a few very 1980s touches to it.
Yeah.
When we saw the 1980s, was that one of them?
That was one of those touches, sure.
Sure.
But also the Sovereign's spaceship.
Was it 79?
I don't know.
Yeah, it was 1980, yeah.
The Sovereign's spaceships,
all their control units,
produced like space invader noises
when they operate them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I liked that.
Same.
That was pretty good, man.
Yeah.
I'll tell you what, though.
That rocket raccoon effect.
Yes.
It's so good.
I mean, it's good in the last one like I
wouldn't even say it hasn't improved to like dramatically but it's just that it
looks like a bloody raccoon you know that bit where Kurt Russell calls him a
triangle-faced monkey yeah and he grabs any hold his face looks real yes baby
Groot oh yes did you were you worried he was gonna minion about I've not actually
seen me I don't know so it's a you've seen you he was going to minion about? I've not actually seen minions. I don't know
anything about minions. You've seen
the memes, no doubt. Oh, I've seen the memes.
Sure. They're plastered all around my office.
Are they really? No.
Because that's a thing
that happens.
But yeah, I liked him a lot. I thought
he was really... He worked really
well. He doesn't seem
to have any of the memories of the previous Groot.
No, apparently someone on Twitter, and I apologize because I forget your name.
That was me.
No, it wasn't you.
It was a listener.
I'll take it.
All right.
Anyway, thanks for letting me know that apparently James Gunn has said that he's a completely
different Groot.
Okay, right.
So he has no memories of the previous Groot.
Okay, that makes sense.
Which I feel is a shame, but I guess.
Well, it kind of also, the sacrifice then makes it worth,
his sacrifice was worth more.
That's true, yeah, exactly.
If he was the same Groot, then he didn't sacrifice anything.
Yeah.
He just got rid of his unsightly cellulite.
Yes.
And had another chance.
But I do like how, because there's a lot of themes of like parenting
and fatherhood and whatever, things that you would,
I understand on a different level, obviously.
But I liked the way that they were all kind of raising him.
Yeah.
And they weren't just like, oh, this dummy that we have to cut.
Like they all kind of fathered him and took the time to look after him.
It's the future of parenting in my opinion.
That's right.
One kid, like a million parents.
I think it works better.
But when there's like a-
Wouldn't you have some time to yourself?
Wouldn't you love some time to yourself?
Oh, I would love some time to myself.
You're never going to get it.
I'm never going to get it.
Not for at least 20 years.
At least, yeah.
But even when they're in the heat of battle,
they're looking out for him.
Yeah, exactly.
They're like, hello.
Hi, okay.
That's one of my favourite jokes.
That's very early on.
And it's in the trailer too.
It's in the trailer as well, yeah.
There's this pitch battle at the start
and they're trying to shoot this intergalactic beast
and Groot's just kind of walking around.
It's a great opening sequence.
I probably won't spoil what it is specifically yet.
But, yeah, and he just sees Gamora,
who's shooting at this beast,
and he just waves, this little wave,
and he's just like, get out of, yeah, hi, move,
get out of the way.
It's great.
It's really good.
And he's got that good moment with Yondu and Rocket later on.
That's right, yeah.
Pretty funny, pretty funny moment.
Did you think, so I think... Somebody on Twitter said, is this a movie for kids no i don't think so yeah well my brother
the one you like thank you he said he's got like a let's say uh so many kids he's got two kids it
seems like seven and a nine year old or something like that i can't remember maybe it's eight and
ten uh-huh and would he take his kids to? well he asked me and I said I don't know
there's kind of a lot of
like dick jokes and stuff
but would they go over
the kids heads?
I don't think
no not a 10 year old
so he saw it
and he's like
yeah I don't know
it kind of walks that
walks that line
I don't think
I think you could take your kid
yeah right
it's like
because I saw Terminator
when I was like 9 or whatever
like I probably shouldn't have
because it kind of fucked me up
but yeah
but this is
and also I feel like this movie is like I saw batman i thought saw the first batman
movie when i was eight yeah and somebody gets their face burnt off with acid you're not gonna
you're not gonna get nightmares it's more kind of inappropriate humor right okay from it that i
would say so if you don't want your kids making dick jokes i guess maybe don't take them to this
they're not going to be scared of anything bearing in mind that they're at school making dick jokes
anyway exactly yeah yeah yeah i think the first one probably more so is kind of okay for kids maybe don't take them to this. They're not going to be scared of anything. Bearing in mind that they're at school making dick jokes anyway. Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think the first one probably more so is kind of okay for kids.
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sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. This one also felt in a lot of ways more james gunny than the last one i feel like he had
a little bit of more free reign did you feel that it wasn't as kind of standard like the storyline
wasn't just now we're gonna get a thing and it wasn't get a gem and then we're gonna do a thing
and then there's a space battle you know what i mean i kind of feel it was but yeah but i felt
that there was okay i can't really talk about it in spoilers,
but the plot was different than what I thought
would like a standard kind of...
It took a different direction than I thought it would.
I thought it was about the same direction.
Okay, fair enough.
I understand, Mason.
Soundtrack.
Great.
Now, you feel that this is...
Did you say you felt that these were more obscure songs or
more recognizable songs more recognizable but from what i from first hearing it because i've
listened to that first soundtrack a lot yeah right so great but a lot of those songs i didn't know
yes i'd barely heard but this one i'd recognize them more but i said that i liked the first
soundtrack better okay so i knew it better but no this still is a really good yeah solid soundtrack and is this do you feel like we're ever being manipulated like i i we we spoke about this
in the first guardians commentary that we feel that the soundtrack does add a lot to it do you
feel you're being manipulated by the soundtrack in the last bit i thought i did okay there's a
there's the end sequence where there's one particular song yeah not that i minded i was like this is a great like this is a really good pairing but yeah no
it's not manipulated to the point of where like you know suicide squad's like there's an eminem
song when whatever comes on and then there's a there's a house of the rising sun prison or
whatever right yeah it's not it's not like that yeah it's not like you won't understand
you won't understand what it's like to be in prison
unless House of the Rising Sun comes out, right?
Yeah, exactly.
So, no, I didn't feel that, but also felt like the first movie,
they work in the soundtrack into the movie.
Yeah.
So, like, a lot of the songs play actual pivotal roles
in what's actually happening.
Do you believe me?
I do believe you.
Okay, good.
Good songs, though.
Yeah.
Do you have a favourite?
Well, I've always loved The Chain by Fleetwood Mac.
It's a good song.
It's in the trailer.
But also, yeah, like, yeah, Mr. Blue Sky.
It's a great song, man.
It's a great song, right?
And a great sequence.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was a, I guess, yeah, the opening sequence of the film,
which we'll probably talk about in spoilers.
Yeah.
No, let's skip it.
No, we will.
Yeah, that was a very creative way, I feel, to open the film which we'll probably talk about in spoilers yeah now let's skip it now we will uh yeah that that was a very creative way i feel to to to open the film yeah to subvert the
genre maybe we'll save that yeah we'll save it can we do we talk about de-aging now would you
want to save that for spoilers it's like the first scene ah no let's talk about it uh let me wait let
me think no it's fine because people know yeah Yeah, I guess. Because Ego, we know from the trailer that Ego is Peter Quill's father
and so he had to come to Earth in the 80s to meet...
The dog's gone mad.
The dog's gone mad.
Yeah, he had to come to Earth in the 80s to meet Peter's mother.
Yeah.
And so we get a flashback sequence where he has been DH to 1980s Kurt Russell.
And what do you think? Incredible. I mean, he has been dh to 1980s kurt russell and
what do you think incredible i mean it doesn't look he doesn't look exactly like 1980s kurt
russell he's got different hair yeah but i mean like he doesn't look like he doesn't look like
he's not rough and tumble snake flick snake yes although his hair i feel is modeled on state
plisskens it's more auburn yeah well it's browner i think that's a wig yeah okay right well he
maintains that a lot of that is makeup and there's not a lot of digital
effects that's all shit how dare no you're you're a liar kurt russell there's no way when he's
wearing the sunglasses i was like that's dead on yeah wait till the sunglasses come off and they do
and i'm just like that's it gets better every time i yeah right like leaps and bounds yeah i think
the michael douglas one was probably the best one before this.
Yeah, it was.
Yeah.
But this was like, this is like some fucking next level.
So he doesn't look like, he doesn't look exactly like Snake Plissken or Big Trouble Mr. Jack Burton.
And because he's clean shaven, it kind of throws you.
Yeah, right?
Because he wasn't really clean shaven in that era.
Like the thing, he's got a beard and whatever.
Yeah.
So go on.
No, that's all I got. So he doesn't look exactly shaven in that era. Like the thing, he's got a beard and whatever. Sorry, go on. No, that's all I got.
So he doesn't look exactly like him, but man.
Do you mean not exactly like them as in they haven't perfected it?
No, I mean he doesn't look exactly like those characters.
Right, yeah.
Yeah, well, he's got his own look, doesn't he?
Yeah, it's like an alternate past version of Kurt Russell.
Yeah.
I think if you did clean cut Kurt Russell from that era,
that he would pretty much look exactly like that
but man I love realizing talking about this we've got a lot to unpack in this movie a lot of stuff
happens in this movie but most of it is in spoilers yeah it is really because yeah yeah
I see we're going to the osseous before we get in the spoilers oh okay about this it's a bit of a
bloody emotional roller coaster Mason would you agree with that yes do you think did that did
that work for you or were you like my emotion i watched it twice and i think the second time much more oh really i think the first
time i'm like i was more concerned with the plot did you father a child in between yeah i did yeah
okay that's right yeah okay so you're like oh what's happening who's this yeah exactly yeah
and i'm like well this is a fun action film and i think in the second one i'm like oh i had more
time to to think about like the relationships between the characters and things like that.
Sure, yeah.
Because I knew where I was going to go.
And I'm like, oh, this is fun.
Again, I feel like, as with the first one, I feel there was some silly stuff in the final
act.
Yeah.
And watching it the first time, I'm like, oh, this got kind of silly.
Yeah.
But watching it the second time, I'm like, oh, no, actually, they've earned it again.
Right, right. Okay. Yeah. I agree. And I'm like oh no actually they've earned it again right right
okay yeah
I agree
and I'm going to give this movie
an 8.5 out of 10
oh we're doing numbers now
that's the new system
did you not get the e-vite
did we
did we invent a new system
for ranking movies
where we give it
a numerical value
this is going to be great
we're going to revolutionise
the system
no we'll give it
best movie ever
yeah me too
ignore that score
everybody
because I know if I ever name another score then people will compare it to this score
but it's good yeah if you haven't seen it is it worth seeing yeah even if you don't like movies
if you hate movies every movie you've seen is total shit is this the movie that's going to
turn you around what do you think is maybe it is though probably the sequel moonlight something the tv series no the movie that came out recently oh yeah right an oscar or something
it did it stole an oscar from la la land or whatever happened there yeah la la land if you
don't love movies just watch i haven't seen it yet i've seen it it's good i like a musical though
spoilers did you see um ian mckellen i think it was
ian mckellen threw some shade on uh moonlight on la la land the other day he said um i've always
liked to do i've always liked how would have liked to do a musical yeah um you know i've done i've
done like theater and pantomime and stuff like that and he said no offense to la la land but
if you can't sing and dance you probably shouldn't't. You know what, though? He's not wrong.
No, he's not wrong because I think Ryan Gosling,
and this is off the track, and Emma Stone are good in that,
but there is, and Claire's a big proponent of this because she has a bit of a theatre background,
where a lot of the times these roles should go to people
who can sing and dance, but they don't.
They give it to big-name kind of actors.
Like, that's how Russell Crowe was cast as chevere and lame is yeah and
he's terrible and the acting is good obviously because he's the greatest actor yes obviously
yeah but and she was even saying that i don't think there's anything wrong with dubbing emma
watson can sing right like but she's not as good as the person who sung in the original beauty and
the beast right okay so just just dub it like it's okay it's like with special effects like
they're not really fighting like it's do you know what i mean like it's it's okay. It's like with special effects. They're not really fighting.
Do you know what I mean?
Yes.
Agreed.
It's the same thing.
I think there is something to that, Ian McKellen.
I think you know your craft.
He's good.
Jesus.
One of the best.
Yeah.
All right.
Spoilers.
Opening sequence.
Also, just FYI, the other day your wife sent me an invite to LinkedIn.
Really?
Why?
Are you on LinkedIn?
No.
Why would she think I would be? How do you send an invite to someone on LinkedIn? You just get an LinkedIn. Really? Why? Are you on LinkedIn? No. Why would you think I would be?
How do you send an invite to someone on LinkedIn?
You just get an email.
Really?
So to make... Does this face look like a businessman to you?
A little bit.
A little bit of a businessman.
Carry on.
I don't like LinkedIn because you can tell who's looked at yours and who you're looking
at.
I don't like any of that.
I don't like the transparency.
It's like MySpace.
It's exactly like that.
Or is it?
I don't remember how that works.
No, neither do I, if I'm honest. Okay. any of that i don't like the transparency like myspace it's exactly like that or is it i don't remember how i have a monastery okay so the opening sequence of where you see the actual
guardians it's to mr mr blue sky yes so there's this amazing we're in spoilers now yeah we're
in like five times all right there's so there's an amazing battle with this intercollect interdimensional
slug monster or whatever tentacle octopus thing yeah and then people are getting flown about and
getting battered out of the air
and it's shooting like rainbow blasts out of its mouth.
In the background.
In the background.
It's all out of focus as Groot is doing his little dance around to Mr. Blue Sky.
And he's also getting fired up for battle but not against the giant monster
but against like little tiny lizard creatures or like a bug that he sees
that angers him and he wants to eat.
It's very good.
That's it and as that's happening they're kind of he's either narrowly narrowly narrowly being missed or like rockets like pulling the bug out of his mouth or like someone's moving him out
of the way and uh yeah and whatever it's it's really good i think that is way more effective
than just having a battle sequence with a giant monster. I think that's way more. Which we've seen hundreds of times before in sci-fi movies.
No, I thought that was fantastic.
And I don't think he was overused either.
Like his other, he just kind of has two big moments.
There's that and there's the other moment
where he has to retrieve Yondu's fin.
And it's this five minute gag
where he just keeps going and grabbing different things.
Yeah.
Which I thought was awesome.
Yeah.
Like the stuff that he kept,
like he drags a desk back at one point. He showed us, yeah. And a severed toe. Yeah. Which I thought was awesome. Yeah. Like the stuff that he kept, like he drags a desk back at one point.
He showed us, yeah.
And a severed toe.
Yeah.
That bit was good.
Yeah.
And the bit where he has a problem with hats.
Yeah.
That's good.
It's so funny.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I guess this movie also kind of puts to rest that
it's when Rocket's translating him.
Yes.
It's what he's actually saying.
Rocket's not just saying.
Yeah.
Right.
Like,
cause the,
I kind of got that sense in the first movie that Groot could just be saying
whatever.
And Rockets,
Rockets is pretending that he knows.
Right.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it seems to be that that's what he's actually.
Yeah.
No,
I like that sequence a lot.
That Sean Gunn has more of a,
more play in this as well.
He starts the Ravager mutiny so taser
face can yes can take over uh-huh very different from the comic version of taser face correct but
i think james gunn just wanted to use him simply for for that for that gag yeah i believe whoever
invented taser face it was either rob leifeld or like he looks like he looks like a rob leifeld but uh
uh his son named whoever invented it his son gave him the name oh really like he's he's like
10 year old son or something or nine year old was like call him taser face so that's where the name
comes okay cool um it's a great use of taser face and the only use of taser face yeah yeah that will
that will probably get movies well he's dead isn't? Yes. So the big reveal of the movie is that Peter Coole's father, Ego,
the living planet, who's a man sort of,
has been sleeping his way around the universe
to potentially thousands of alien species, it looked like,
to try and replicate his celestial...
He's a celestial as well.
He is a celestial, yes.
Which the original Ego is not.
Is that right?
I don't believe he is, no.
Yeah.
So he's one of those guys who we see in The Last Guardians who can...
Yeah, I think, though, maybe in the Marvel movie universe,
Celestial is just something that is slightly lower than a god, maybe.
So it's more than like a Norse Thor, Thunder God,
but it's less than a actual a real a real god a real god a real god that's right do you reckon there is a real
god in this universe well it's jack kirby jack kirby in this universe oh in our universe yeah
yeah no it's also jack kirby i mean in the movie universe i don't know but in the in the actual comics in the comic book universe
the
the
there's
there's gods
and celestials
and
eternity
and all sorts of
big cosmic entities
and there's
above that
there's
somebody called
the one above all
yeah
who like the biggest
cosmic entities report to
and it's a guy called Jack
who lives in it
who just hangs out in a bar
yes
and it's
it's
it's assumed to be Jack Kirby.
And he controls all.
Yeah.
So he's the writer, basically.
Yeah, exactly.
I get it.
You get it.
You get it.
Do people like that or are they like, it's a bit on the nose?
I mean, this has happened like twice in 60 years or whatever.
Right.
Okay.
Very good.
Very good, Mason.
Isn't it though?
Anyway, did you see that reveal coming that Ego was an evil man and whatever and he's
not really?
So he's just been he's been killing maybe when i went maybe when i saw the opulence of his planet
yeah i'm like what's behind this yeah this is this strange yeah and it's kind of even foreshadowed
when no not nebula more is like look we'll go and check it out and if it's wrong if he's evil
we'll just we'll just kill him see which is exactly what happens yeah well that's true but i think also
i think that was meant to diffuse.
Like, that's meant to diffuse the audience's suspicions.
Oh, really?
Because if she goes,
well, if he's evil, we'll just kill him,
you go, well, obviously he's not going to be evil
because we've addressed that now.
Sure.
But I'm also going to this movie going,
I don't think the...
Well, by that point,
the Sovereign aren't really...
They're kind of a joke.
Yes, that's true.
And there needs to be another threat.
And there's nobody... And the Ravagers are also kind of a joke. that's true and there needs to be another threat and there's nobody and the ravagers are also kind of a joke yes and also he knows most of them i thought
potentially what we could have been heading towards is an appearance by thanos and then a cliffhanger
empire strikes back right yeah yeah but no well no thanos i'd heard also no infinity no either well
i'd heard that neither of those things were going to be in it that being said they could have turned
up like it could like there's a lot of stuff hidden from this that you know maybe you know but i we would have seen josh
brolin in mocap or something exactly wouldn't we yeah or whatever but no i like i'd i'd saw it saw
the reveal kind of coming but i still enjoyed the kind of the way it played out and the what did you
what did you feel about the revelation that he put the tumor in his wife and peter quill oh that was like a
that was like a not out loud but yeah that was and again you kind of see that coming
yes he's giving that speech about yeah do you think that he's too villainous though
nah it's great i love it oh look i i understand it from the concept of he doesn't understand like he
he doesn't this is the this is his first experience with love yeah and he
doesn't understand it but he's also a being who's callous enough to just well well i have a problem
and i'll solve it yeah i don't want to come back to this planet because then i'll never leave so
if i kill her yeah it'll be fine yeah so like he doesn't like he doesn't understand the gravity of
what he's saying to to peter no because yeah yeah of course he hasn't he hasn't lived that life. He's lived millions of years
and encountered millions of beings.
What does he care exactly?
But I also feel maybe like...
I think he does care.
Right.
But I don't think he, like you said,
he doesn't understand that.
Or he hasn't dawned on him yet.
I still don't know.
I'm still kind of on the fence
of whether that is too heavy handed
or, you know, I'm going into that.
I got the impression, like my assumption was going to be she died from like radiation poisoning okay
something along the lines not that he actually went yeah i'm gonna kill you but i like also
that it gave peter quill the kick yeah to kind of snap out of the take over the galaxy mindset
which is true i don't know why he was cool with that in cool with that yeah but that was a great sequence where the cut it does that that zoom uh-huh and he just
fucking unloads on him like I really like that was just my cup Russell being
torn to pieces by blasters just just some just some creative makeup he's a
good he returns as David Hasselhoff yes that was a fun bit and you know what
though because I said to you off mic so it doesn't count a few weeks before I
said wouldn't it be fun if, Stallone turns up in this movie
because Kurt Russell can appear as whoever.
So he appears as Rocky.
Yeah, right.
Not thinking that was the reason I didn't say it because I'm like,
that's dumb.
Right.
You were close, though.
That was a similar kind of thing happened.
You were really close, yeah.
I'm glad I said that to you.
So that's a real thing that I thought.
Yeah, and I thought yeah and that
I like the fact that
Gamora
sort of misremembers
his story
and he's like
don't you remember
didn't you have the guy
and he had a magic boat
no it was David Hasselhoff
and he had a talking car
that was fun
and again
if that had just shown up
in the third act
I would have been like
well that's really stupid
but they kind of earned it
yeah totally
like he had this
like it's a story he didn't tell
that many people
but he
he hasn't told anybody
in his adult life
but as a kid he
he told everybody
that his dad was David Hasselhoff
yeah yeah
that's fun
yeah
it's like that kid I knew
who said that He-Man
lived with him
I've told that story before
yeah yeah
yeah no but I liked
all the ego stuff
and also we very very
very briefly seen
saw
and I wonder whether
this is added late in the game
probably not
you see the face on the planet
yeah right
yeah
that's all I need
that's all I need
yeah no absolutely
I mean I would have liked
to have seen it
no I don't think they added
that late in the game
I reckon they
it was like
we've got to make it
we've got to have
give it a face
yeah
at what point
will we throw it in
yeah you're probably right
and at the point
where he becomes his most evil
it's a good reveal
people did gasp
in the scene
do you think that was there the whole time
and they just approached the planet from a different direction?
Yes.
Or do you think he did it?
We'll never know.
We won't, will we?
No, we'll never know.
But, yeah, James Gunn was like this.
I remember he said there's no giant planet with a face.
Yes.
And I remember thinking that cannot be true.
Right, right, right.
Because the director that you are,
I just don't think that you would pass that up.
No.
Yeah. It's like, yeah. true right because the director that you are i just don't think you would pass that up yeah it's
like yeah like and also i think i think superhero filmmakers have learned from the lessons of the
past i.e fantastic four rise of the silver surfer if you're gonna have an iconic cosmic villain
you gotta show it just do it yeah just and look it didn't have to be like a big face going i'm
gonna destroy you like that would have been a bit on the nose.
Exactly.
But yeah.
Speaking of Fantastic Four.
Yeah.
We also got the Watchers.
Okay.
They must have had more stuff than we thought
because they bought Ego back.
They traded Ego back.
Do you reckon there's a chance that they have the Fantastic Four?
Maybe.
Yeah.
See, so for anybody who doesn't know,
you know, in the comic books all the every marvel character can interact in the same universe but in the movie universes a lot of
them can't because they were they were licensed off to various filmmakers in in years and decades
past fox is busy ruining ruining them three times over exactly and so and a lot of those a lot of
those properties are owned by other companies
in perpetuity.
If they keep making movies,
they can keep owning the characters.
That's right.
So,
and in a lot of cases,
it's kind of unclear
who owns what.
So,
because Fantastic Four
is owned by Fox.
Fox.
Yeah.
I assumed that they also owned
every kind of
Fantastic Four related
cosmic property.
Yeah,
they're in Silver Surfer,
Galactus.
The Watcher. The Watcher, yeah. Yeah, they're in Silver Surfer Galactus. The Watcher.
The Watcher, yeah.
Yeah, but in this one we get the Watchers
who are hanging out with Stanley,
who I believe in the credits is Uatu the Watcher.
No, I think he was Watcher Informant.
Ah, okay, right, cool.
Yeah.
Okay, that's good.
What's also really interesting about that,
and this was pointed out by people who are smarter than me,
or bigger nerds,
got them, that Stanley says, This was pointed out by people who are smarter than me. Yep. Or bigger nerds.
Got them.
Yeah, you got them.
That Stanley says, and that one time I was a delivery man, right?
But the thing is, the time he was a delivery man was during Civil War,
the end of Civil War.
Civil War takes place in 2016.
Right.
This movie takes place in 2014. So what you're saying is Stanley perceives all time and space simultaneously.
So he's not just, He's something else as well.
Or he has additional powers to just be...
Because he's clearly...
So he's not human.
Or if he is human, he's been imbued with some kind of power to...
Maybe we're thinking too hard about this.
I don't think so.
No, I think they've just given him that joke
because he was the delivery man in Civil War.
Right, so people remember it.
Yeah, exactly.
You don't think it's...
I mean, they could have said he was the mailman
in Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer or whatever well yeah yeah i guess they
could that's what they're referring to yeah but what i really liked about this as well this has
been a kind of a it's been a theory that's popped up for a few years that yes this site this stanley
character who keeps popping up in movies is the same character yes and it's and he's and he is
uatu so maybe he still is Uatu. There's a chance.
But he doesn't look like...
They can't take the form of other beings, can they?
I think they can, but they won't.
Because they have power cosmic, so I guess they can do whatever they want.
But also, they don't talk.
But do they talk to each other?
The Watchers talk.
No, but they often don't, though.
They don't converse with...
Well, I guess they converse with each other, but they don't talk to each other. I don't think Iverse with, well, I guess they converse with each other,
but they don't talk to each other.
I don't think I've ever read a comic
where there's more than one of them.
Okay.
Because Iwata used to be the narrator
of the What If comics
where he would talk about like parallel stories,
like, you know,
what if Wolverine became Lord of the Vampires
or whatever.
Because I'm thinking of that Nova comic
where the kid Nova meets Watcher
and the Watcher doesn't speak until like the very
end maybe that's a good question i mean iwata's always spoken yeah uh maybe he's the only one
that does though that's a good question i don't know i've never i've never really read anything
that doesn't have him in it but also he has an affinity for earth that the other watchers don't
seem to have for whatever they're watching over yes Yes, that is correct. And also he's dead at the moment.
He's dead now, yes.
He's been replaced by White Neck Fury.
White Neck Fury, yeah.
The David Hasselhoff version of Nick Fury.
David Hasselhoff, Nick Fury, yeah, exactly, yeah.
So Dave Bautista also said something interesting.
He said that Sony is talking about Spider-Man
and Sony have been lending Spider-Man back to Marvel
and there's been talk that Sony are then going to retract
that offer in a few years after Avengers Infinity War.
And as a result of that, they're going to make their own spinoff universe, which they've
been threatening us with for years now.
And it's going to go really well.
Yeah, they were talking about a Sinister Six movie because they set all that up in that
Spider-Man origin basement from part two.
And they're talking about a Venom movie that they might do in a Silver Sable Black Cat
movie.
That's right.
And they'll definitely balls it up.
Yeah.
So when was Silver Sable in a comic?
When was the last time she was in a comic?
I couldn't tell you.
It would have been Amazing Spider-Man in like 1998 or something.
I'm sure she's a background character in Civil War
or something like that.
Yeah, yeah.
But he said that-
Well, they need characters to be shooting off a rooftop
or something.
Right.
Or bringing a Silver Sable.
He said that he thinks that Marvel are going to buy back Spider-Man.
You'd hope so.
Yeah.
Do you feel like that's something Sony would give up?
Yeah, they really should, shouldn't they?
Yeah.
I mean, from a business standpoint, they need to look at what makes them more money.
And maybe they would make more money from selling him back than making infinite number of Spider-Man movies
that are not very good.
Well, I mean, potentially it's a case of how much,
how deep Disney's pockets are.
I mean, they are very deep.
It's how much they want to, if they were like, listen,
the last Spider-Man movie made, you know, $200 million.
Here's $300 million and you don't have to make another one,
but we'll get Spider-Man back.
Maybe they'll agree to it.
Yeah.
Because that's $300 million for nothing yeah absolutely but i
mean i disney how much money did disney have i have no idea well they have enough to buy lucasfilm
in its entirety so they sure do don't they yeah but but the difference here is lucasfilm is was
somebody gonna buy disney is that yeah we talked about uh apple maybe that was that was the rumor
that's right yeah yeah just companies eating other companies. Yeah, right?
No, but the differences between Lucasfilm and Spider-Man is,
Spider-Man is one, well, there's more characters in that universe,
but you're buying one character.
Yeah.
For Star Wars, you're buying a history and a franchise and all the actors and the merch and everything that's associated with it.
They own everything Spider-Man except the movie rights.
Yeah, right.
So that's not a $4 billion deal.
No, that's true.
Yeah.
Because surely Disney make all the merchandise money.
Yeah, they make all the – and Spider-Man still outsells
every other superhero tenfold in merch.
There you go.
There you go, right.
Yeah.
But I do think there is – we're seeing – I didn't know
that they had the watches and I feel like they might have
Fantastic Four but they just haven't told us yet.
Yeah, maybe.
Because I think Fox might just be like,
we're not doing anything with this.
They're never going to make a good one ever, ever, ever.
And they might just not, even if they did.
Imagine if they just showed up in Infinity War.
Yeah.
They didn't, like, they cast it in secret.
Yeah.
And they were just, like, surprised.
Here they are in the Fantastic Car, just showing up in space.
Jessica Alba's back. Jessica Alba's back.
Jessica Alba's back.
Owen Griffin's back.
Chris Evans is pulling double duty.
Imagine if in Infinity War, like Thanos disintegrates Captain America.
We know he's going to come back, but, you know,
just for the dramatic tension, he disintegrates Captain America.
And then the human torch played by Chris Evans just shows up again.
Incredible. But he's got that kind of radical early 2000s attitude they could de-age him they could
do it they could de-age him they wouldn't need to but they could couldn't they yeah oh that would
be incredible and Chiklis and Michael Chiklis is back yeah as the commish the thing couldn't make
it but it's me the commish he's the best thing that we've seen yeah weird right it's good easy it's a great it's great
casting but i just i just think that fox are either gonna bugger it up or hold on to it forever
so you may as well sell it back exactly what we're talking about guardians of the galaxy
what a good fun one it was a fun one wasn't it oh yeah so the things that so in the in the in the
final act of course he at one point uh peter Quill uses his cosmic powers to turn into Pac-Man briefly,
which was a fun visual gag, but I'm like, oh, that's pretty silly.
And if they hadn't earned it earlier on.
It's very pixels.
Yeah, isn't it though?
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
No, I didn't.
Yeah.
I didn't hate or love that.
Yeah.
But yeah, you're right.
In a worse movie, that's not a good gag.
And they reused the chain twice. Yes. Well, they they reused a couple songs like the um brandy song oh yeah
some songs popped up a few a few times great prison break sequence yes the only it was very
reminiscent of the first one well that's the only thing that i didn't particularly like about it was
rocket broke out of that prison yeah in the first movie by getting a battery and
getting this and that and make it and then floating a thing out and with him it was just like a grill
like he's the kind of guy that could pick that lock and be out in a second right right so that
was but but maybe they know his skill set and they're like we'll put him in the one locky in
the in the room with the one lock he can't pick so i don't even know if they do oh he did kill a
lot of them though yeah that's true yeah that, that's true, yeah. That was an amazing, I liked that sequence a lot
when Rocket takes out all of the Ravagers.
Yeah, in the forest, yeah.
Really cool, yeah.
And also the scene where Yondu kills everyone,
that's probably not a scene for kids
when you think about it.
Johnny Urine was in it, the musician.
Oh, right, okay.
He's got a real weaselly face to this.
I do not care for him
and I'm glad that arrow went right through him and that that's another bit like this movie gets real dark when
they're ejecting people in the space yeah i forgot about that as well but now that arrow is
that's a great idea isn't it i bloody love it do you really think he uses his heart or his whistle
to control it mostly the whistle seems like his whistle doesn't it yeah sean gunn gets a bit we're talking about this he got a bit more play as well do you
think he's going to show up like he's going to be a member of the team he's going to be on the team
for a while yeah he's on the ship isn't he he's on the ship and he's always on set so yeah yeah
you know exactly where he's rocking i hope he gets rid of that fin though he looks ridiculous
yeah yeah yeah well i guess that's also the joke that he kind of looks like a yeah i guess like a
bit of a i guess that's true bloody dummy yeah so he kind of looks like a bit of a bloody dummy.
So did you, again, I felt much more emotionally affected
by the death of Yondu on my second viewing.
Yeah, no, absolutely, 100%.
And that's a thing they...
Michael Rooker's great.
Isn't he good?
He's so good.
He's good in The Walking Dead.
Yeah, if you say so.
Not a good show.
But no, he's great when he's all in slither and he's in 15 hours of prosthetics
that he probably slept in.
But no, and I liked that that was a callback to the first movie where,
having just watched it, me and you, like they talk about,
Yondu briefly mentions why he didn't deliver Peter Coulter ego.
Yeah, yeah, that comes a jerk anyway.
Yeah, but you find out that, oh, Stallone to Ego. Yeah, yeah. That comes a jerk anyway. Yeah. But you find out that...
Oh, Stallone's in this.
That's weird.
You find out that, yeah, the reason being that he liked Peter Quill
and he wanted to kind of keep him safe.
Yeah, and he learned very late in the game
that all the children he was delivering to Ego weren't being cared for.
They were being tested for celestial DNA and then turned to ash,
basically.
Yeah, exactly.
But no, I liked that a lot.
And there's that line about he's not your father
and I'm your bloody father, mate, which was good.
No, it's great.
I mean, it's a shame he's not going to be in it anymore,
but it's a good way to go out.
Yeah, exactly.
If he was a character we didn't care about in any way,
it wouldn't matter if he died.
The fact that I'm like
the fact that I'm like
oh no he should be
why won't he be
in the next Guardians
kind of thing
why won't he be
in Infinity War
then well
they've chosen
the right character
to kill
exactly
in a way
exactly
and also I liked
Peter Coole's speech
about how he was
he was his Hasselhoff
and Peter Coole's spaceship
and he banged
hot women across the galaxy.
Exactly, yeah.
There's robot prostitutes in this movie as well.
There sure are.
Yeah.
Stallone.
Yes.
It's the original Guardians team.
So it's the Guardians team from the 60s and then the 90s.
Yeah, who are also the Guardians from the year 3000.
Yes.
The future team.
So there's been some little,
there's a little messing with the timeline. One of them is Miley Cyrus. Yes. For the future team. So there's been some little, there's a little messing with the timeline.
One of them is Miley Cyrus.
Yes.
The robot head.
So in the original,
in the comic book timeline,
those characters we see are
the Guardians from the year 3000
and the Miley Cyrus character is Mainframe
who is the Vision.
Yes.
Whose intelligence has survived into the future.
Right.
Do you think that's going to...
Oh, no, you can't link that, can they, now?
I was like, how's that going to work?
Time travel?
Also, how's the Vision's voice going to...
How's Paul Bettany's voice going to become Miley Cyrus's?
He's a robot.
He can turn into whatever the bloody wants.
But we had...
Yeah, so we had...
Iceman.
That's Michael Rosenbaum.
Iceman, yeah.
And then...
Ving Rhames.
As Charlie 27 yep
and we had
Michelle Yeoh as
yeah Stallone's wife
in real life
no no so in the comic books
he's Starhawk
yeah
and that's his wife
yes
and then we had
and I can't remember
the character's name
she has a name Mason
no no no
the other one
the sort of the red demonic
oh that yeah
with the Doctor Strange hands
yeah
he's got Doctor Strange powers.
Cool.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I like that, yeah.
Which again, are not that great in this universe yet.
No.
But he, I'd imagine he'd be really good at that.
Probably, yeah.
Yeah.
Because he's got magic and space magic.
Exactly.
Do you think there's, well, James Gunn says he wants to use these guys again.
I'd love to see that.
Do you reckon they'll just get like killed by Thanos or something like that?
Oh, the cannon fodder.
I think that's what's going to happen in Nebula because at the end of this, Nebula goes off
to kill Thanos.
I think the next movie might open with Thanos killing Nebula.
Right.
Just to show the kind of threat that he is.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, again, so we spoke about it pre-spoilers, but after spoilers.
Yeah, she feels like she's in a different movie.
Right.
Where she's like, she's on this insane quest for vengeance and she's out to kill people
with no irony.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
She does not do jokes or anything, does she?
She does not do jokes.
That's one joke that didn't work for me.
The fruit joke.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Didn't do it for me.
That's okay, right?
You're okay with that?
Yeah, I'm okay with that.
Okay, good.
What else happened?
Anything else?
What have I got here?
I might actually do it mm-hmm got some
listener review if you think of something got some listener of you so I
can't ready to jump in I'll jump in as from Adam just saw Guardians of the
Galaxy volume 2 thought the second half was better than the first half overall I
thought it was great Danielle says Sloane and Russell in the
same movie but no tango and cash reference. What a waste. Interesting, right? They never even interact. Bullshit.
Matthew says it was a fun night.
It was a great charm.
So Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 was fun
last night. Does it have the great
charm of the original? I think it's supposed to
say it doesn't have the great charm of the original but still pretty enjoying.
James with a Y says
since Ego is dead
this is a question. Does that mean that star lord can
no longer grab dat gem yes wow i mean he'd give it a whirl he could but he'd kill him not necessarily
he might have some residual well he had power before because he wasn't linked to the planet
was no i think he was oh okay well i mean it depends. So I reckon there's two options here.
Like, number one is that he has human DNA,
but this second base layer of DNA,
which enables him to grab the gem.
Yeah.
Right.
Or the reason he could is because he had, like,
some sort of connection to the celestial power.
In which case, now that it's gone, he can't.
But I'd say maybe his DNA is still...
Yeah, I'd say it's still pretty robust.
But also, even if it isn't, now Groot's back. can't but i'd say maybe his dna is still yeah i'd say it's still pretty robust but also even if it isn't now groot's back so groot can grab it no so i'm saying you've got this there's more members of the team so if they needed to do it again there's more people in the
team so i reckon they could probably do it and sean gunn and sean gunn's there exactly yeah
so he could burn to a crisp and then he could form the kindling. He could be their fire break.
I feel like because he'd never returned,
because Ego has to physically return to the source planet.
Yes.
So because he'd never been there,
I feel like he can't tap into that planetary power,
but he still has that little bit of like an inhuman kind of aspect to him.
Right, right, right.
I think it's worth still giving it a chance if he has to,
is what I'm saying.
Yeah, give it a bash, why not?
This is from Portable Cooler.
Just saw Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 and loved it.
Great sequel, lots of fun and lots of heart.
Cannot wait for Infinity War.
We should talk about that actually, Mason.
Yes.
That's the next movie.
Apparently they're not going to play a huge role,
but they will be showing up because a lot of Infinity War
is set in space.
What do you want to see the Guardians do in Infinity War 1 and 2?
Do you want to see them fight for a bit and then they're mates?
Yeah, they've got to team up.
There's no way they're not going to team up with the Avengers.
Do you want to see Rocket Raccoon meet a regular raccoon?
That's just stowed away in a Quinjet or something?
Well, I think they go to Earth.
Oh, okay.
Or if they go to Earth, yeah.
Oh, okay.
That sounds pretty good. Good with that? Yeah. Do you think it right. Or if they go to Earth, yeah. Oh, right, okay. That sounds pretty good.
Good with that?
Yeah.
Do you think it would be good if he had to go in disguise as a regular raccoon?
Yes.
That'd be pretty good.
He has to go undercover?
Yeah, but he's got all those cybernetic parts on him,
so he'd have to wear a little raccoon coat over his regular raccoon self.
Yeah, kill a raccoon.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I didn't even think about them going to Earth.
Yeah.
Oh, also, one last thing I just remembered.
At the end, Peter Quill's Walkman's Distribute gets a Zune.
Oh, no, yeah.
What do you think's on that Zune?
Well, Father and Son by Cat Stevens.
Yeah, see, that's the thing.
Obviously, whoever's owned it has similar musical tastes to Peter Quill's mum, but I'm
hoping it has a lot of late 90s,ill's mom but i'm hoping it has like
a lot of late 90s early 2000s like imagine if it's got a little of mud yeah rolling by limp
biscuit maybe some of that stuff hey what do you reckon about that the zoom is that's a good joke
by the way the zoom jokes that's a good joke it's got holds 300 songs i bought one of those yes when
in like the i don't know 2006 or whatever and it bricked in like a day and I had to return it.
Because that was the shit for Holden Music, wasn't it?
Yeah, I remember, yeah.
That was where it was at.
You had one, didn't you?
I had an iPod Classic.
Oh, okay.
I'm sure you had one in your car, didn't you?
Yeah, I had a something else.
It wasn't a Zune.
Oh.
Something else.
Something else you say.
Something else, yeah.
Did you know that there's a promotional tie and it's not here but in America?
There are potato chip packets that have functional MP3 players in them. For Guardians of the galaxy oh okay cool yeah so they come with like like this is so cheap now
yeah the pack comes with several songs from the soundtrack and a set of headphones and you plug
it into your potato chip packet into the actual packet yes how many times does it work until it
runs out of it's usb powered so you can you can run forever You can just carry a... Potato chip packet. Yeah, exactly, yeah.
Well, that's amazing, Mason.
What else we got?
Anything else?
No, I don't think the Zune has the retro appeal of the Walkman.
Even the headphones aren't as...
No, that's true.
But I found that last sequence with Yondu's death
and he gives the little baby
and then he gives him little headphones or whatever.
Oh, should we talk about post credit sequence
yes
which ones
oh there were so many
okay so there's
the teenage Groot
yep funny
funny
yep
which means he'll be an adult
by the time
yes
Infinity War rolls around
three years from now
yeah
three years from then
what else
Stallone
getting the team back together
getting the team back together
yep pretty good
Watcher one we talked about
yep
oh wait we've covered them all yeah the the Arrow pretty good. Watcher 1 we talked about. Yep.
Oh, wait, we've covered them all.
Yeah, the Arrow, the Sean Gunn Finn, which we talked about. We have basically covered them all, haven't we?
Any other ones?
All Little Dancers in the credits.
Oh, yeah, there's a Jeff Goldblum.
Yeah, it makes an appearance.
Yeah.
Hasselhoff makes another appearance.
They de-aged him quite well, I think.
Did they?
I thought that's what he just looks like.
No, in the movie, he's de-aged.
No, he's not.
He is. No, he's not. He is.
No, he's not.
He is.
He's 100% not.
No, he looks like Knight Rider.
He's wearing the outfit, but he's not.
Really?
Okay.
I would bet my balls on it, Mason.
Wow.
All right.
Well, I'm willing to bet nothing, so we'll watch it again, and we'll see how your balls fare.
Do you want to at least bet one of your balls?
No.
I like my balls.
Okay.
All right. Yeah, and there might be another one but anyway yeah good all right too many or not enough just the right amount you know
what was good about this movie as well it's not tied to any of the other movies except the previous
guardians movie that's true there's none of the other i would have loved to seen some kind of
like in a post-credit sequence some kind of avengers cameo i was really
i was crossing my fingers hoping for like hulk no i was hoping for tony stark and his space armor
oh that would be a second i don't know like just going somewhere and finding some guardians related
space junk or something yeah being like what the bloody hell what the bloody hell is this
i'm gonna use this as a weapon of war somehow what's the worst that can happen that's what i
do oh i
was meant to ask you this do you like how they split up the team empire strikes back style
yes i like that too me too yeah good apparently james gunn looked at successful sequels and what
made them work and you can see kind of there's definitely empire strikes back like there's the
asteroid field and whatever yeah but there's also like there's like a spock style funeral at the
end that's true yeah i mean so it's yeah but that yeah that sequence there's like a spock style funeral at the end that's true yeah
so it's yeah but that yeah that sequence could have just had bagpipes and it would have been
like spock's yeah right yeah exactly yeah i mean you know what when i die i don't care for what
kind of funeral i get no just kick my body into a river okay cool right that doesn't mean you get
to murder me and kick me into a river just so so we're clear. All right. You know what it's time for?
What's it time for?
What are we reading?
Oh, what are we going to read?
Very good.
I'm doing nothing.
What are we reading today?
What are you reading?
This week I read, because after Guardians, I'm like, I love Marvel cosmic stuff.
Yes. So I read the first volume of The Ultimates,
which is not the Marvel Ultimate Universe Ultimates,
but the new Ultimates.
Okay.
So it's basically a team who've decided...
It's a Marvel team who've decided that they're going to,
on their own, deal with various cosmic threats
in the Marvel Universe.
So it's Captain Marvel.
Yep.
It's Black Panther.
Yep.
It's Blue Marvel, who's like Black Superman.
Right.
It's Ms. America, who's like a dimensional transporter type.
Right.
And it's Spectrum, who is a previous Captain Marvel.
That's a weird mix.
It's a weird mix, right?
Why is Black Panther in the team?
Because he's got all the money.
Oh, okay.
He's got the money and the Wakandan technology, I think.
Cool, okay.
And he's often a guy, like he's-
You need an Earth kind of base character.
But also you think he's like a brawler kind of guy. No, he's smart. Yeah, he's... You need an Earth kind of base character. But also you think he's like just a kind of a brawler kind of guy.
No, he's smart.
Yeah, he's smart.
Exactly.
He punched Mephisto once.
Like there's a...
Oh, that's a great comic.
Yeah, many years ago there was a Black Panther comic by Christopher Priest, I think.
And there's a scene where Mephisto is sort of, you know, causing havoc in New York City.
Who's the devil, we should point out.
He's the devil, yeah.
Well, he's not the devil, but he pretends he's the devil.
He's one of the devils.
He's a devil.
He's a real devil.
He's a bloody devil, that one.
And he has vast hell-born power or what have you,
and so there's not a lot you can do.
And so Black Panther keeps him talking until his tech team
can kind of surround the building with power-draining devices, then he just slaps him around for a bit that's pretty good
that's awesome good is that a black panther book or is black panther just show up and no that's
black panther solo series from like a few years ago cool yeah you should check that out if you
can anyway so this in this one they decide that galactus is a problem and eventually he's gonna
start he's gonna attempt to devour earth or like another inhabited world.
So they're just going to fit.
They're going to fix the problem forever.
They're going to take away his big knife and fork.
Exactly.
That's right.
He's got beautiful manners.
He would never attempt to eat it otherwise.
Cool.
All right.
That's great.
Yeah,
that's real good.
I'm a,
I watched Prometheus today because next week we are doing an alien.
We've done alien and aliens.
Yes. We're going to talk about alien three We've done alien and aliens. Yes.
We're going to talk about alien three and four and Prometheus.
So essentially the not as good ones.
Great.
Fantastic.
We might have a very special guest as well.
And that's in preparation for alien.
I keep calling it alien isolation.
It's called alien devastation or whatever it's called.
Even though that's out here this week.
Alien degustation.
So yeah, if anyone wants to watch any this week. Alien Degustation. Degustation.
So, yeah, if anyone wants to watch any of those in prep and share some opinions.
Yeah, if you could, that would be great.
That would be fine.
But, no, I'm looking forward to talking about them
because Prometheus says some weird choices in that movie, man.
Yeah, agreed.
So that's next week.
But also I bought, and you played a little bit when you got here,
a Raspberry Pi.
Yes. A retro video gaming system
that has every game from the past that you could ever possibly need.
And it's great.
Yeah.
And do you like my little Nintendo controllers, Mason?
I like your little retro Nintendo controllers.
But they're wireless and whatnot.
And they've got little analog sticks.
But there is that thing because we just flick through a few games.
We play each game for like a minute and then go, nah.
Yeah, exactly.
I'll play one of the
other thousand games on this and as i said to you when i was a kid i would have sawn my arm off to
get this yeah but now i'm completely indifferent to it even though it's amazing like it's an amazing
piece of technology and what did you say about it that well i said as a kid if i if i if i could
travel back in time to my own past self i'm sure i could do give them a lot of warnings or a lot of
advice about the stock market or whatever,
invest in Google.
But also, I think one of the things that I would say is,
hey, don't stress about getting all these latest games
or whatever, because in a few years,
you'll be able to buy a $100 box
that lets you play every game in existence.
And guess what?
They're not all that great.
Exactly.
Good work.
Anyway, the reason also I bought it
was because we've got to do more video game stuff.
We should, shouldn't we?
Yeah.
So work towards that.
But I like doing the animations on it.
Yeah.
But I don't know whether that's feasible to do it
because I want to do maybe even one a week
work to that at some point.
We can do a video game Caravan of Garbage.
Yeah.
We've got to bring back Caravan of Garbage.
But what I'm saying is I want to make it like,
I'd love to make it a weekly thing.
Yeah.
But I just need a way to make that feasible
because I can't edit them every week.
Sure.
Yeah.
But anyway, we'll talk about that another time.
Yeah.
Letters, Mason.
Letters.
Letters theme song.
I'm listening.
This is not.
Good boy.
This is not.
Classic Wabbit.
There we go.
Letters, oh, letters.
We love you.
Some letters.
They're only a take my way.
We're going to be here right now.
We're going to do letters.
That was a record delay, Mason. I know, right?
And you were ready, though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
I know you've got letters because you love letters.
Do you want to do your letter first?
Hang on.
I've got heaps of letters this week.
Oh, this is... Let me see if I've got one.
Weekly Planet Pod at Gmail
if you want to send Mason a letter.
A couple of weeks ago we said,
because a while back we harassed
director James Gunn on Twitter.
Yes.
And it went very well.
Yeah.
And we said, we asked the listeners
if they would like to suggest someone else
we can harass.
Rob on the Gmail,
weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com
says, how about Edgar Wright?
Seems like he could be a good sport.
What do you reckon about Edgar Wright?
What's he up to recently?
He's doing Baby Driver.
He's doing Baby Driver.
That's true.
We need to wait until he's working on something
and then we know what it is
and then we push that.
He'd be a good one.
Someone else suggested Takeo Watiti.
He'd be a good sport about it.
Yeah, probably.
You know who wouldn't be a good sport about it?
Who's that?
Christopher Nolan.
That's true.
He's an auteur. Dun Kirkmore like a Dun Jerk. Don't tweet that at sport about it? Who's that? Christopher Nolan. That's true. He's an auteur.
Dunkirk more like a Dunk jerk.
Don't tweet that at him.
Is he even on Twitter?
I don't know.
I doubt it.
Sam Perryman said, we were talking about The Dark Tower earlier.
Yeah.
He said he can't remember if either of you have read the books.
We haven't.
No.
But I'm a fan of the connected universe.
Everything's on the back of a turtle or something?
Yeah, exactly.
He says, I thought I'd like to take a moment to remind everyone
that a major plot point in one of the books is a showdown between the heroes
and an army of Doctor Doom robots that throw golden snitch grenades.
Now, I don't know if that's true, but I can't rule it out.
Seems real.
Seems real, right?
Because everything's in the King of Us, isn't it?
Do you think that Sony is going to even attempt to get that ridiculous if this first movie is successful
no no yeah or if they do they'll do a bad job yeah i think i think these are going to be more
generic than where yeah i hope not because i want to see some weird stuff yeah yeah what do you got
oh i got some stuff go ahead okay i can do one i can do the how about this how about this this
is from uh spaghetti Mr. Pinkerton
remember
remember Jay Pinkerton
yeah I remember Jay Pinkerton
funny man yeah
what happened to him man
well he wrote Portal 2
he had that
Jay Pinkerton website
we used to
yeah right
I was at the comics
and I hope he's still
he's probably still doing stuff
well he used to work
he very briefly worked
for cracked.com
early days
when cracked was like
more long form articles
and was not just listicles right
then they changed the format to listicles and he stopped doing it so oh really i don't know why
what do you ask has he emailed us no i just i just saw pinkerton and okay and i just like because
he was a big influence on into early in that uh in that uh gunslinger graveyard there's probably
a shrine to pinkerton the weezer album. I loved his articles. Yeah, same.
He was good, man.
And like I said, he wrote Portal too, which is a very funny guy.
I did say that.
Okay, so this is from Spaghetti Mr. Pinkerton though.
Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod.
You put that out there on Twitter.
We'll find it.
Any thoughts on the lack of Wonder Woman marketing?
Have you heard about this?
Well, there's a little bit of Wonder Woman marketing that is not going well.
Which is that?
Oh, yeah, well.
There's one for like...
Think thin.
Yeah, think thin protein bars or something.
Some sort of food that'll make you thin.
Do you think if it was just a protein bar,
it wouldn't be a big deal?
Not at all.
It wouldn't be a problem because you've got to...
Get your protein up.
There'd be an issue, I'm sure.
It's the name, obviously, that's the problem.
I don't know if there's already...
Has there been Batman, Superman protein bars?
It feels like there's been... But that's the thing. I'm sure there's already... Has there been Batman, Superman protein bars? It feels like there's been...
But that's the thing.
I'm sure there's been energy drinks.
And there's been potato chips.
Yeah.
There's been like Doritos.
But for this, it's...
But yeah, this is different.
This isn't even what...
Think thin.
I don't know.
It's a bar.
Yeah.
So it's not thinking thin.
I don't know.
Anyway.
I don't...
You can't...
There's something else bad. I can't remember what it is. But you can eat... Oh,'t look these all the like you can't you can't something
else bad i can't remember what it is but you can eat oh i just want to say you can't eat that shit
and you will get thin because it's all you're eating yeah right it's not a permanent solution
yeah yeah anyway but what people are saying is right so it's a month out and there's like
no really online market yeah right there's like been there's been trailers obviously there's been
that clip that was released i think there's been six trailers.
Okay.
For Wonder Woman.
That's quite a lot.
But I mean, you don't...
We haven't been inundated with them.
No, but I also think...
And people are saying it's way less than Suicide Squad, but I think...
I'm going to give Warner Brothers the benefit of the doubt because I think that they might
be waiting for Guardians to blow over.
Yep.
So after this week and probably also next week,
it's going to ramp up because it's still a month.
Yes.
And I think a big problem with Batman Superman was they hyped that
for like what felt like six years.
Yeah, sure.
Like it just kept.
Yeah.
In a way, this entire podcast was just stealth marketing
for Batman Superman.
That's right.
Because we built this podcast on the anticipation
of Batman Superman.
Exactly.
And so I just think there might be like a little bit of breathing space
and a month is plenty of time to promote a movie that, you know,
a lot of people still do know is happening.
Yes.
So, and the other thing that I've heard was they're doing a big push
instead of online because a lot of the comic book people
are already going to see it.
Well,
there's one article from who was it?
Kristen page Kirby.
She wrote,
I can't remember who she wrote this for some big website.
This,
he thinks that Warner brothers is saving money because tickets are already
bought by people like her and fans of who are Elvis's fans of the,
of the character.
Like we're going to say it.
I'd imagine most people who are listening to this are probably going to say
it as well. Like regardless of whether or not it's going to be good. I'm, we're going to see it. I'd imagine most people who are listening to this are probably going to see it as well.
Like, regardless of whether or not it's going to be good,
I'm going to see it.
Also, it's entirely possible that the reason they sunk so much money
into the Suicide Squad marketing is because they knew
it was going to be real bad.
Well, there's also that, and you've also got to sell a movie
on characters that people don't know.
Exactly, yeah.
And that's why there was such a big push for the Joker,
even though he's not in the movie that much.
Correct, yes.
Yeah.
But also there was talk that they want to do more of a TV-focused campaign,
which is a horrible mistake.
Yeah, right.
You want to get it out to people.
You put it on YouTube.
You put it on Facebook.
You put it on Twitter.
Like TV, come on.
The thing with TV is you can't even guarantee who's watching it at what time, unless you put it on. Like that's how you, like TV, come on. Like you can't, the thing with TV
is you can't even guarantee
who's watching it at what time
unless you put it in like
Super Bowl or whatever.
So look,
I'm going to say
benefit of the doubt.
Let's just see what happens
over the next month.
But I think there might be
some thinking as well
that Wonder Woman
is a recognizable character.
So a lot of people,
you know,
as recognizable as Superman
or Batman.
So a lot of people
are going to see it anyway.
But I, yeah,
but it's not like the character has been handled super well in the past.
How many Wonder Woman video games do you think there are?
I've never seen one.
There's zero.
I mean, she's in stuff.
She's in Justice League Task Force, the fighting game.
There's that on my YouTube channel where we play that.
She's in Injustice.
She's in Injustice.
She's in Mortal Kombat versus DC.
She's in like DC Online.
I actually looked it up just earlier
because I wanted to see if there's a game we could play
before when the movie comes out.
And there's not a solo Wonder Woman.
Right.
But there's an Aquaman game.
So, you know what I mean?
Does he have harpoon hand or water hand or magic hand?
Regular hand.
I think it's regular hand.
Wow.
There's actually...
No frills, no gimmicks.
Captain Christian, who is a great YouTube channel,
he does an analysis of the origin of Wonder Woman
and he talks about how she's also been neglected in mainstream media.
She's always been an iconic character,
but there's only been the Linda Carter series
and a cancelled TV series.
Correct.
There's some animated stuff as well, which has been quite good.
So, yeah, I'm going to say benefit of the doubt
but we'll
we'll see
soon
when's that coming out?
June 4th
7th
something like that
so it's not
it's a month
yep great
yeah
alright
but think thin
think thin Mason
I'll try to think thin
okay cool
alright
you got another letter?
okay this is my last
you're going crazy for letters today
it was a bloody big week for letters
this is from Cam McMillan yeah weeklyplan letters today. I know. It was a bloody big week for letters. This is from Cam McMillan.
Yeah.
WeeklyPlanetPod at gmail.com.
He's made some Weekly Planet podcast bingo.
I saw that.
Yeah.
So I'll put this in my Twitter feed.
Yeah.
You print this off and check them off when it happens.
So it includes dog makes an appearance.
Check.
Microphone adjustment.
No, not this stuff today.
Celebrities as food. For example, egg in a vest. Yes. Yep. Daniel Craig as a appearance. Check. Microphone adjustment. No, not this. Celebrities as food.
For example, egg in a vest.
Yes.
Yep.
Daniel Craig as a potato.
Yep.
Exactly.
Let's see.
Your retconned family makes an appearance.
Yep.
That's a one there.
That's one.
Yep.
Unique Australian pop culture reference.
Check.
Natalie and Bruglia.
Yep.
Exactly.
Yep.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
They probably know her in Britain as well.
Yeah.
But she's Australian. Yeah, that's true uh a seamless edit what do you think the story was that that comes up a lot
anyway there's a whole bunch it's very good we've covered most appearance on other podcasts plug
yep got that one I think maybe he just went through one episode it covers but anyway uh
so cam says can I please be the official Jeremy McMillan of the podcast so my brother can't be?
Absolutely.
So his brother's name?
Jeremy McMillan.
That's hilarious.
Take that, Jeremy.
Yeah.
That's very good.
Great stuff.
Cool.
We've got one here from Dave.
Sorry, I do have one from David.
Angus Quickly.
I don't know.
David Angus Quickly.
David Angus Quickly.
That's a strange name.
I thought so.
Angus What says on Twitter, hashtag weeklyplanetpod.
I think we talked about this, so I've got another question or comment.
Are you interested in Injustice 2 and will you be playing it?
I think maybe we've spoken about this a couple of weeks ago.
Look, I might, but again, once I play as...
I'll probably play the story mode.
Yeah.
But once I've played a couple of versus matches,
I just want to see all the special moves played out. We have talked about this. And once I've seen that, I don't really. I just want to say all the, all the special moves played out.
And once I've seen that,
I don't really care anymore.
And I'll read the comic.
Like once I know what great,
all the,
all the things Greenland can do,
like a jet,
a fist,
a hammer,
some girders.
Now he can drop girders.
Oh,
very good.
Pretty good.
But once I've seen that,
I'm like,
well,
I don't,
it's fine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You don't want to go through the story.
No,
I like,
I quite like the story.
So yeah,
I do.
I do kind of want to see what the situation is.
Oh, Brainiac's involved now.
Cool!
Yep.
Cool!
Very cool.
One last, this isn't a question.
Also, Sub-Zero's in it.
What?
Yeah, Sub-Zero.
Because Scorpion was in the last one.
Not the main...
No, he was a DLC character.
Yeah, I was going to say.
But also, we're also getting the Red Hood.
Yes.
That's pretty good.
He's got guns, doesn't he? Yeah, he does. And a Red Hood. It's more of a helmet. Yeah, I was going to say. Yeah. But also, we're also getting the Red Hood. Yes. That's pretty good. He's got guns, doesn't he?
Yeah, he does.
And a Red Hood.
Yeah.
It's more of a helmet.
Yeah, it's a helmet.
Dave Rogers says,
I never read much comic.
Sorry, I never much read comics.
I haven't watched
many superhero movies.
I have no idea
what you're talking about.
Love the show.
Great.
That's the spirit.
Look, honestly,
a lot of the time
we don't know
what we're talking about either.
And that is the show
for this week.
Yes, it is.
Someone bought a... We're going to do Amazon Aff for this week. Yes, it is. Someone bought a...
We've got an Amazon affiliate link.
Yeah, we do.
Someone bought a $700 graphics calculator.
I'll tell you exactly who.
That's too much for a calculator.
Let me just say, Mason.
No, that's not what he bought.
Isn't that what he bought?
He didn't buy a graphic calculator.
He bought a graphics tablet.
You silly goose.
Kyle Moore.
Yeah.
So, yeah, we've got a...
If you click on our episode description
there's a little amazon affiliate link you click through that yeah you pay the same low low prices
you were if you're buying stuff on amazon anyway buying your bloody groceries or what have you
yep uh and we're gonna kick back from that somehow how's it work we don't know but we're
gonna keep doing it until i realize that it's a dumb idea and stop it we either get anywhere
between two and ten% of that.
Nice.
So I don't know exactly.
Who knows?
Yeah.
I'm waiting for the check in the mail.
I'm not going to take it.
I normally save them up for too long.
What else, Mason?
What else?
What else?
Oh, you can find us at Weekly Planet Pod on Facebook and the Gmail and Twitter and Bandcamp.
We've got Guardians 1 commentary up there.
And PlanetBCasting.com has all the shows, including, like, you can play the episodes from there and all the other shows that are on the network. Yeah, that's right commentary up there and planetbcasting.com has all the shows
including
like you can play
all the episodes
from there
and all the other shows
that are on the network
yeah that's great
like the current week's
episodes are up
so you can just go to
that website
just click through
and find your fave
everything you need
is there
listen to every week's
every episode that week
built by one Ben Vanell
yeah very good
you can also
you can also sign up
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yes exactly
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we've got the
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Design on Red
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western skulls I bought my own face i'll take
a photo of that like a baby yeah i'm a vain baby i'm a vain undead baby that's what i am
anyway that's that's real fun but also our our our non-bootleg merch is on t-public.com you
just look up weekly planet it's like below as well yeah uh yep cool next week it's the show
aliens oh yeah alien stuff and stuff and heaps of news and stuff so much Weekly Planet it's link below as well yeah yep cool next week Aliens
Aliens stuff
and heaps of news and stuff
so much
there'll be a Blade Runner trailer
which we'll
I guess briefly talk about
because
how those flying cars look
and we gotta know
real good
I'd imagine
I'd imagine Mason
I'm glad Ridley Scott
Scott's not doing it
because he's 79
alright
thanks for listening
grab a jam you guys
we'll see you next week
wait or don't because maybe the rules have changed of the universe mason what do you mean because of
the quitter quill thing do we have to change it because the origin of grab that gem is from the
guardians of the galaxy episode i think we should change it we have to change the merch what do we
well we will have to be it'll have to be what where's my paschetti it'll have to be no you
know it has to be no it is that's the. Hey, who am I? We're not changing it. We won't change it.
We're not changing it, all right?
Okay, great.
I'll chat with you guys.
See you next week.
Bye.
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