The Weekly Planet - 186 Alien: Covenant & The Venom Solo Movie

Episode Date: May 22, 2017

This week we tackle the cinematic...something that is Alien: Covenant. What a wild ride that is.Also we get stuck into a new look at Mera from Aquaman and Han Solo, discuss the first reactions to Wond...er Woman, X-23’s return, Star Trek Discovery and The Orville plus more Spider-man news than you can spider a spider at.Aliens Arcade Caravan Of Garbage: https://goo.gl/Vt7XjTAlien Covenant Easter Eggs: https://t.co/ZzvKJnORKt4:17 Mera & Wonder Woman reactions9:26 WFTPOTA12:07 x-23’S return14:26 Star Trek Discovery & The Orville22:07 First look at Han Solo24:35 Spider-man soundtrack & Venom movie37:02 Alien: Covenant spoiler free review47:55 Alien: Covenant spoiler review1:15:08 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:21:21 Letters It’s Time For LettersBuy Aliens on Amazon: https://amzn.to/2OEEq4WThe Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind our T-Shirts here: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Weekly Planet, official podcast of comicbookmovie.com, where we talk movies, comics, TV shows. My name is James Olsen, known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason. I'm here.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Yeah, you are here. How's that going? Yeah, good. I've got a dog in me lap. You've got a dog in the lap. I'm wearing a tan pant. Yes, you are. So I had to put down a blanket.
Starting point is 00:00:53 That's right. So the dog doesn't drool in my tan pant. But then I've got the dog on top of that. That's right. And the dog's asleep, I think. She's given a bloody pant as well, you know what I mean? Ah! They don't wear pant.
Starting point is 00:01:03 So they can. They can wear pant, yeah. You can put a pant on a dog have you ever made this dog wear any clothing yes like a little vest wait wait clothing exclusively for this dog or like like like dog clothing or if you just made it where no dog clothing there was a penguin costume once oh dear and there was a wedding dress but i'll explain that okay another day it's not as weird as it sounds. It's very weird.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I know. I think you married this dog. It is as weird as it sounds when I think about it. I'll explain it another day. Have you ever thrown a T-shirt over the dog and then just watched it subble around her room? Yeah. Well, that's also happened where she'll get caught in a blanket
Starting point is 00:01:39 and you've got to wriggle about. Yeah. All right. Here we go. Did you see the first photo of Mera in Aquaman? Yes. The reddest of hair, the greenest of scaly outfits. Looks great.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Yeah, it's comic accurate. Yeah, it's comic accurate and it's not the standard DC of just making it grim and grey and chunky battle armour kind of look. Yeah. It actually looks comic accurate and good. Yeah. So there you go. I saw some concept art. I think it was real for the... And this is from Aquaman. It actually looks comic accurate and good. Yeah. So there you go. I saw some concept art.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I think it was real for the... And this is from Aquaman. This is from Aquaman the movie. I believe so, yeah. I saw what Jason Momoa was going to be wearing in that and it's the green and gold. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:16 And I don't know, maybe that's not real, but I forgot to ask you to look at that. But just remember that I looked at it and I approve. Okay. Remember that. Do you think maybe that's prequel? Like maybe that's from... Maybe that's a flashback sequence?
Starting point is 00:02:28 Could be. Where he was less grim and gritty? Maybe. I think maybe the Aquaman movie is going to be about him getting his kingdom back or beginning to rule his kingdom. Okay. I don't think they're going to do... I think Wonder Woman would probably work. Hopefully will work.
Starting point is 00:02:42 We'll talk about them in a bit as a flashback movie set in the past. But Aquaman, it doesn't need to be a prequel. You could just kind of continue the story. That's true, yeah. That's the way I see it anyway. Yeah. But no, good, excellent. Also, yeah, I said we'd talk about it just then and we will now.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Okay. Apparently Wonder Woman's real good. That's what they've been saying. The early reactions are in. Yep. They're like it's as good as like a Captain America, First Avenger or just a good comic book movie in general. That's great.
Starting point is 00:03:07 That's good to know. I hope it is. Me too. Because if it isn't. But these, I mean, you never know. Like there's been a lot of cases of early screenings and like Fantastic Four got really positive word of mouth. A lot of people love the Batman Superman fan screening that happened, but this is a little bit different because it was a lot of critics and apparently
Starting point is 00:03:28 so if you depending on who you trust yeah see i don't know i don't look i don't trust us as but like i don't i don't necessarily trust anybody who gets the the number one the day one premium treatment because you want because you kind of want the... I feel that oftentimes a lot of people who review want to get their tweet in the next round of ads and stuff like that. 100%. It's a tour de force. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:03:55 DC's best yet. At bonglord420 or whatever on Twitter. Yeah, so I don't know. And I also think from time to time we get free movie tickets. Not always, but sometimes. Because we trick people into thinking we're a legitimate review source. We're going to Pirates tomorrow. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Yo-ho, Mason. If they get back to us, which they may not. That's right, yeah. But, like, it doesn't concern me, but it is always in the back of my mind that at some point one of these movie studios is going to find out we exist and listen to a couple of episodes and realize that we've been like rubbishing their movies, like every single movie they've made
Starting point is 00:04:31 for like the last two or three years. Not every, but we rubbish studios specifically a lot. That's true. And I think eventually they're just going to quietly take us off the free movie ticket list. And I think there are a lot of reviewers who are like, I love the train, I love the free movie tickets. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:04:47 So I'm just going to say good stuff. Yeah, I would say that's definitely true. But I also know that it has gone the other way where companies have gone out of their way to invite people who hated previous movies to get them along. I don't think that would happen here in Australia. No. Because nobody gives a fuck about anything or who we are or what anybody's doing. Yes. But no, I can absolutely see that.
Starting point is 00:05:07 But also a lot of these people, these people who go to the premieres and you get a champagne and whatever, we don't have that here as much. Sometimes we get a bottle of Coke. Yeah, that's true. Or a room temperature water. At Suicide Squad, I got a packet of candy-coloured popcorn.
Starting point is 00:05:25 It was horrendous. Nice. Yeah. In a way, I think that has maybe coloured your opinion of the entire movie. Think back. You didn't like Suicide Squad, but really, perhaps you just didn't like the candy popcorn.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Well, I came out of Suicide Squad and was like, yeah, it was fine. I think I liked it more than a lot of other people. But bearing in mind, I was doing about three hours sleep in a row every night for last year so i don't know whether any of my opinions are valid anymore as a dad mason but no i want to say we'll do a we'll do a commentary of it because i want to know if it you should do a retrospective in a couple of years once you've actually gotten some sleep
Starting point is 00:06:02 and revisit all the stuff you reviewed while your child was in their early stages and just be like. Find out I hate Kingsman. Yeah, right. Exactly. Yeah. I think a lot of movie critics, though, you can get kind of caught up in. You've seen it.
Starting point is 00:06:17 They get caught up. They get to meet Kevin Feige and they stand in front of a whatever. They're going to say Kevin Sorbo. They meet Kevin Sorbo. Yeah, but also I think you would get sick of that and there's also you kind of would get over it, I'd imagine, if that's your job professionally. I think you've just got to go to reviewers that you like
Starting point is 00:06:33 and who you trust. I think that's the way you've got to do it. Pick your person. Pick your poison. Yeah, and even then. Pick your porpoise. Pick a good one. But even then, you know, obviously forming your own opinions also which
Starting point is 00:06:45 people do just keep buying tickets to superhero movies so we can matter what so we can keep doing this yes uh well this isn't a superhero movie but what do you think about the war for the planet of the apes looks great woof to peter woof to popeter, that's right. What do you think? New trailer. Looks great, yeah. There's a bad gorilla. There's a bad gorilla who's been employed exclusively to reload machine guns for humans. Correct, yeah. Looks pretty great.
Starting point is 00:07:12 We've got some... Where do these human armies... Where do they keep coming from? Yeah, good question. Because the level of sophistication... This one came in on... These guys came in on ships at the end of the last movie. Ah, I see.
Starting point is 00:07:23 So this is the reinforcements. Yeah. Okay. They're probably from Cleveland.. I see. So this is the reinforcements. Yeah. Okay. They're probably from Cleveland. They could be. They picked a city at random. Yeah. That's good as Eddie.
Starting point is 00:07:31 They're probably from Dubbo. But have you noticed the armies get meaner as they go along? That's true. They do. Yeah. So who's meaner than Woody Harrelson? Who are we getting next? Just a fire?
Starting point is 00:07:43 A raging fire? Yeah, maybe. Yeah. I don't know. Who is meaner than Woody Harrelson? I was going getting next? Just a fire? A raging fire? Yeah, maybe. Yeah. No, I don't know. Who is meaner than Woody Harrelson? I was going to say Powers Booth, but then I remembered he literally just died. Yeah, we should talk about that. Yeah, Powers Booth passed away.
Starting point is 00:07:52 That's disappointing. Yeah. He's part of the, he's been in many things, but he's part of, in the Marvel Universe, he's part of the World Security Council. He was seen in Shadow in the end of the Avengers. He's only in the Avengers, isn't he? No, he's in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. as well. Is he?
Starting point is 00:08:06 We get a... It's revealed in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. that he... He wasn't wearing pants in that scene? That's right, yeah. The scandal of it all. But he's on the World Security Council, but he's also a HYDRA double agent. Of course he is. They all are.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And most of them are HYDRA double agents, yeah. What season was that? I don't care. No, it's probably three. Let's say three. But yeah, War for the... Wuftepoeter. Wuftepoeter.
Starting point is 00:08:29 What do you... You looking forward to it? I am, yeah. They've all been pretty good. That's true. Obviously, the director of this is going to go on to do Batman next. So yeah, I'm rooting for this to be good. Do you think this is going to be a little bit the same as the last one?
Starting point is 00:08:42 In the sense that clearly they're gearing up for war and some parts some elements of both sides are going to be like no don't be in a war no i think this is as the title suggests yep i think this is all out war okay i think the whole i think it's because the last one kind of built to a war this is the war so there's going to be no peace accords there's going to be no negotiations there's no pieces of accord correct great yeah just shooting just shooting so there's people getting captured woody harrelson's doing speeches about don't take it personally there's green laser sites there but they're big right now they're huge right now we'll talk about it later but there's a few in uh alien covenant very chic it's very well green lasers are very slimming i don't
Starting point is 00:09:24 know if you know that oh i didn't know that red light red lasers bit green lasers are very slimming. I don't know if you know that. Oh, I didn't know that. Red lasers are the horizontal stripes. Of lasers? Yeah, of lasers. Okay, very good. Don't wear them unless you're very confident. Okay, I won't. James Mangold has said that Daphne Keane's Laura Kinney,
Starting point is 00:09:38 at least she wasn't called Laura Kinney in Logan. I think she was just called Laura. She could return. He said he's talked to Fox about having her pop up again. How do you feel about that? Cool. Cool, man. I liked her.
Starting point is 00:09:49 She was really great. Do you wait a few years until she's a bit older to kind of base a movie around her? Or how would you do this? Yeah, mate. They'll probably wait until they see if she's not an ugly adult actor before they build a franchise around her. You know what I mean? Right, yeah, yeah. So it depends which way she goes.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Okay, yeah, that's harsh but probably true. Yeah. Yeah, but I think there might be something to, what if you made an X-Men movie with kids? And I don't mean like 25-year-olds pretending to be at school. Gifted. Yeah, exactly. Gifted, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I mean like kids running from the government you know living on the streets and and yeah whatever well they're working on a runaways tv series yeah absolutely yeah maybe if that's a hit i reckon they'll probably just they'll start churning them out i have lost track of all the x-men series and yeah i don't know what's happening anymore we talked about one before the show which was the gifted yeah yeah what did you say well i said that this there's every one of these shit previews every one of these trailers has somebody going if i focus my mind i can make things things move with my mind it's it's my gift and maybe i'll teach you how to use a gift just say you've got mutant powers we all we all know we all know it's like a movie with vampires or zombies and nobody says vampire
Starting point is 00:11:06 or zombie yeah just say i think we're fighting zombies like in all those movies and tv shows we've seen that have zombies in them that's just acknowledge it it's only shawn of the dead i think that that acknowledges maybe i zombie as well they probably say zombie you're probably right yeah but yeah just i don't understand how all these zombie shows take place in a universe where they've never there's never been a zombie yeah tv show well i guess it's like you know superhero movies are set in universes where there's superheroes i guess it's a i guess it's the same thing probably true is it a bit naff to say zombie in a zombie movie maybe it is yeah yeah it's like they didn't really want to say Superman in Man of Steel. Yeah, right. Yeah. They were like, it's not even an S, all right?
Starting point is 00:11:47 It's something else. God. Leave me alone. Yeah. Two trailers that I thought we could tie together, the Orville and Star Trek Discovery, both of which I thought looked pretty good. Which one do you want to talk about first?
Starting point is 00:12:03 Star Trek Discovery. Okay. It looks more J.J. abrams than which raises the question it's the original original universe the original so it's not the it's not the reboot universe no it's not the most recent three movies the calvin the verse it's the original time original time whatever that's called yeah the kirkiverse kirkiverse the one the one where Kirk comes Shatnerverse Shatnerverse it can't be the Kirkiverse because there's Kirks
Starting point is 00:12:27 in both universes it has to be the Shatnerverse okay fair enough yeah alright the Shatnerverse and the Pinerverse what did you think though
Starting point is 00:12:34 looks looks very nice yeah it's it's a good looking show I've heard from people who are big Star Trek fans that they're reluctant to kind of get into it
Starting point is 00:12:43 because it looks more Kirk Pinerverse than Kirk-iverse. There's a lot of lasers and jumping and whatnot. And they kind of want the diplomacy and whatever. But I think there's a good chance that it could be that. This is just the trailer to sell it to everybody. Yeah, the unwashed masses. Correct, Mason.
Starting point is 00:13:01 The non-nerds. Again, we've talked about when they rebooted Star Trek in Australia at least they had these they they on TV they had these Vox pops well people get coming out of the cinema like regular people and they're like yeah I liked it wasn't for nerds yeah good I'm a normal person they were like and the ad was like see normal people like it you like it too not just for dirty nerds so yeah you're probably right it's probably show them some phases jumps yeah some space combat show them some klingons and then the klingons have a head ridges yeah newish look yeah well that's more kind of in line with what we saw of them in uh
Starting point is 00:13:38 into darkness yes we see them they've got they look more kind of predator-ish yeah so so in the original star trek tv series yeah they look more kind of predator-ish. Yeah. So in the original Star Trek TV series, they look more like normal humans. They have a smaller ridge. Yeah. And then in Star Trek Next Generation and like all the subsequent things, it's much more like- They hit wharf speed.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Yeah. So it was much more elaborate, like makeup. And the in-universe justification was there was like a virus in the klingon species and it caused further mutations and that's why they look different they didn't all just hit their heads on door frames well it was yeah it was a it was a virus that caused severe confusion okay yeah oh really so they actually explained the yeah so there you go but so i don't know where this fits in then why do they look look like that? That's what I'm saying. The Kirk-verse.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I mean, the Piner-verse. I don't know. Or this-iverse. I don't know. I'm so confused now. I don't even know where we are. Yeah. But no, I'm looking forward to it.
Starting point is 00:14:39 People say there hasn't been a good Star Trek series since the 90s, like a Voyager or whatever, because a lot of people don't count Enterprises. I don't count Voyager. Oh, really? Yeah. Was Voyager the one that people really liked? What's the one people really liked? I really liked Deep Space Nine.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Yeah, maybe it's that one. Well, I mean, the gold standard is Star Trek The Next Generation. Is it, though? Because people say that... Well, see, that's the thing. People are like, oh, my God, you were saying people love the diplomacy and the what have you. Yeah. I think the ones that people remember the most are like the ones with the huge...
Starting point is 00:15:04 They remember a few... Like the Borg War. Yeah, they remember the Battle of Wolf 359, which is the battle against the Borg. And they remember some huge action sequence ones. They remember the one where Moriarty tries to get out of the hologram room. Exactly. I remember that one. And there's a few that are kind of like the deaths know, the deaths of significant characters or, you know, the first episode where Q puts everybody on trial
Starting point is 00:15:29 or the one where they meet an alien race that speak only in metaphor or, you know, there's a few slower-paced ones that are remembered, but I think a lot of the ones that are about diplomacy and negotiation kind of disappear. Oh, really? Okay. But I guess also- And that's my opinion.
Starting point is 00:15:47 There's probably hundreds of episodes that appear. But you're wrong and there's hundreds of- Nah, I think your opinion is pretty universal, Mason. Thank you. Everybody, let him know on Twitter, at Wikipedia Brown, if you share a different opinion. But I think also I've heard the strength of those series is that if there's a war, it builds to a war.
Starting point is 00:16:03 It's not just, there's a war. A war just happened. Right, yeah. The whole series or years kind of lead up to these events because Kirk, not Kirk, Picard goes back like he becomes assimilated and he comes back and whatever. And also they say that the movies, which I think I've seen all of them, The Next Generation, they're very different from the interpretations
Starting point is 00:16:24 of the characters in the TV shows because they're all kind of double-hand fist-punching each other. There's no time for diplomacy. We've only got two hours. We don't have a whole season for this. Look, we'll have a bit of faffing about at the start, but then we're doing a war. And now let's tell jokes and swear.
Starting point is 00:16:40 That's right. So, yeah. We get one swear. Before we couldn't get a swear. Now we can do one swear. And then it's just dune buggies and people getting their faces stretched and whatever ends up happening with all those. But as for the Orville from Seth MacFarlane, I thought it looked great.
Starting point is 00:16:57 I thought it looked very – I've been looking for something kind of Galaxy Quest-esque since Galaxy Quest. I was promised Zoom Academy would be and it wasn't right yeah shithouse yeah look i i went through a few emotions i'm like oh this could be like this you know fun little space spoof this could be kind of funny and then it went sorry seth mcfarlane i went oh i forgot about ted and ted too all right and then it was like directed by john favreau and i'm like oh fantastic and then the rest of it was pretty positive
Starting point is 00:17:26 it's fun I agree and I like the kind of retro feel of it I mean it could it may as well just be Star Trek you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:17:32 like just a straight Star Trek yeah totally but no I think this could be I think there's room for like this both of these shows to be good in their in their own particular way
Starting point is 00:17:42 so I'm definitely going to be checking out so this The Orville is a series not a movie? Yes, a series. Great. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:47 So is Jon Favreau only directing the first episode? I would say almost certainly. Okay, right, great. But he's directed first episodes of shows before that have been cancelled. There's the one where all the technology is gone. Revolution. Did you ever see that?
Starting point is 00:18:00 No. I think that was one. Was that one of those ones that it was? It's a TV series, but also watch it on the web. Watch some webisodes. Probably. Watch some mini-mo-bisodes. I will not.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I absolutely refuse. But no, I think there were some actual good jokes in there and there's obvious nods to the Star Trek-averse, the Pinell-Kirker-verse. Yeah, and also I like the idea that he's one of a thousand captains. Yeah, he's not like the idea that he's one of a thousand captains. Yeah, he's not even the best guy. Yeah, he's just a guy that they have to get captains on these ships.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Yeah, they built too many ships and they need a warm body to pilot the thing. To do it. To captain the thing. What I find amazing about both of these shows, though, is also they look great. Yeah, right? And I know it's just the trailer and maybe it's going to look worse in the end but on the whole there is some i watched the end of the first david tennant doctor who episode the
Starting point is 00:18:51 other day yes where he fights the sycorax he wasn't a big floating in the sky terrible i don't know how i didn't see it at the time but that is just some abysmal shit and this this is this is it looks movie quality if you showed me that star trek's thing and said this is a movie then yeah i would yeah definitely yeah so and the other one looked just looks like galaxy quest which looked really good for the time as well so tv's come a long way mason say what you will about it but it's come a long way i agree that's so that we're both saying the same thing then yeah you'd say say what you will but that we're both saying the same thing then yeah you'd say say what you will but i think our opinions are the same okay i don't have any i
Starting point is 00:19:29 don't have any super controversial takes on television really interesting yeah right okay here we go uh han solo he's it's been revealed what he looks like he's on set they're like exclusive on set pics there's one picture yeah the other one's like a ship and yeah there's there's one picture of him and there's a second photo that's been zoomed in. Yes. Just in case you don't know who you're looking at. And it looks terrible.
Starting point is 00:19:51 He looks terrible. But this is not a good photo. That's some big hair he's got on. Yeah, boy. He's got a scar. What's been happening? Who knows? Who does know?
Starting point is 00:19:59 There's a nice kind of 1970s, 80s era land speeder of some sort. Yes. It looks kind of cool. But look, he doesn't look exactly like Harrison Ford. He was never going to. No, that's true. And the hair is weird, yes, but again, it's taken from a distance. But I don't think that's going to be the problem with this movie,
Starting point is 00:20:18 if there is one. It's going to be that it's a weird portrayal that doesn't line up. I don't care if it doesn't sound like him or if it doesn't look exactly like him. I don't even want to see this movie. But if it captures the spirit of it or whatever, that's what you've got to aim for. That's true, yeah. You can get a guy who can do an impression that looks exactly like him. But I'd rather get somebody who has their own take on it and makes it fun.
Starting point is 00:20:39 But to be clear, your preferred option is to not watch this at all. No, a different, I wish they were making something else. Right, okay, yeah. But then also you look at the team behind it and you're like, well, this looks like a lot of fun. You know what I mean? It's the guys who did Lego Movie and whatever. And I think they did 21 Jump Street and whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:56 So, yeah. Yeah. Make it a fun thing. We also had like grumpy guy wearing a helmet that's too big. That's pretty good. I like that. What else do we have in there? I don't remember anything else about it.
Starting point is 00:21:08 There was like four photos, was there? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I think there's going to, when they do release an actual publicity still, people are going to flip out regardless. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah. Because he's not Harrison Ford. There was even complaints that like, he's five foot seven. It doesn't matter. Harrison Ford's also not that tall, according to Alec Baldwin. Or he is. It doesn't matter. Harrison Ford's also not that tall, according to Alec Baldwin. Or he is.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I don't know. In a way, you can fix all that with camera angles. Camera angles and heels. Because I don't know if anybody knows this, but when you watch a movie, you're not actually in the room with any of those actors. So they're just not up real close to me. Unless you're in a suite premiere.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Oh, absolutely, yeah. Would you want to get a photo with Johnny Depp at a premiere? No. Just sidle up to him? No. Put your hand around his scarfed shoulder. You'd catch something from that scarf. Definitely would.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Yeah. Probably scabies. Yeah. What do Pistol and Boo have? You know what I mean? Are those his dogs? Those are his dogs, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I don't know. They've probably eaten a lot of his drugs as well. They're all scrambled. That's right. Yeah. Did you listen to the Spider-Man Homecoming score? Yes, I did. Michael Gianchino? Uh-huh. That's right. Yeah. Did you listen to the Spider-Man Homecoming score? Yes, I did.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Michael Giancino? Uh-huh. What did you think of it, bearing in mind that it sounds just like the Amazing Spider-Man original theme, but updated for a more cinematic experience? Orchestral. Like the bird. Am I thinking of kestrel? You're thinking of orchestral.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Yeah. What did you think? Look, I enjoyed the fact that it sounded exactly like the 1960s Spider-Man theme but updated from modern whatever the thing you said a kestrel you said too many i was hoping to just say the exact same thing you said but then you said too many things and i lost the thread so just assume that i did if you could just take what you said right and change the register slightly so it sounds more like me so i just auto-tune my own voice so it sounds exactly like you correct can you do that no i'll give it a go i won't look it'll be have to be a five-year project yeah so i'll get back to you on that yeah no did you actually like it though you're like oh that's a good little nod or yes but i think if you throw that in in a major action sequence
Starting point is 00:22:59 yeah it's it sounds a little hokey doesn't it well it's a it's a hokey theme i don't know whether this is the main theme of it. Maybe they're just messing about. They could be. They could be, but... I think if they bury that in a couple more layers and you're watching this action sequence and you go, oh, there's a fun little nod to the original.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Absolutely. But I think if you put this up as the... If this is the real soundtrack to a genuinely dramatic action sequence yeah i think people are going to be like dumb i think i think it could work as the main thing like the batman theme from 89 is a very kind of bombastic and and recognizable i can't i like the original spider-man score from the sam raimi ones but i couldn't hum it off the top of my head absolutely not yeah and i don't remember the Amazing Spider-Man one at all.
Starting point is 00:23:45 I remember the itsy bitsy spider bit. Yeah. Where he's flying between the pylons of... Oh, I don't remember that. Yeah, don't you remember? No. Electro shooting lightning at him and striking... Was it like a dramatic version of it?
Starting point is 00:23:55 Yes. I think if they made that today, it would be a small child singing it. As Gwen Stacy is murdered. Right. Probably, right? Yeah. Yeah, or a choir. A choir of small children.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Yeah, a choir, definitely. Yeah. But I think this goes into what everything they're doing with this version of Spider-Man. It's all a throwback to the original. Like a lot of the stuff they, because a lot of the stuff that they even left out of the Raimi trilogy, they're bringing back.
Starting point is 00:24:20 A lot of the original stuff, even that hologram thing in his wrist, the costume, the eyes, a lot of it is very early. hologram thing and he's in his wrist the costume the eyes a lot of it is very web shooters yeah web shooters a lot of it's very early era spider-man chubby asian sidekick yep very early era spider-man so early i don't think there was an asian man in comics without a big mustache no absolutely until 1984 uh but no it all bodes well for this movie i just wish I didn't see the trailer. Same, yeah. Yesterday I saw Alien Covenant and there was the Spider-Man Homecoming trailer.
Starting point is 00:24:52 And I'm like, oh yeah, that's right. The ship and the moves and the bloody... And Sidekick figures out his identity and then he's got trouble at school. And then Michael Keaton. Don't do anything I wouldn't do, but don't do anything I would do. There's a grey area.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And it's all fun, but yeah. Yeah, it is. It looks great. I want to see the ship split in half, but then I don't want to know that Iron Man puts it back together. Other Sony Spider-Man news, sort of. Tom Hardy is Venom. He is.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Apparently he's a big fan of the character. They put a picture on Instagram or Twitter where he's wearing a T-shirt that proves it. That's right. He's got a shaved head. You can't wear a Venom T-shirt unless you're a huge fan of Ven character. They put a picture on Instagram or Twitter where he's wearing a t-shirt that proves it. That's right. He's got a shaved head. What's he up to? You can't wear a Venom t-shirt unless you're a huge fan of Venom. Correct.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Have you worn one before? No. You're not a huge fan though, are you? Exactly. But you're okay with him? But he's not wear a t-shirt worthy? Is that what you're saying? I tell a lie.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I have worn a Venom t-shirt. You sack of shit. That's right. Yeah. Anyway, it's going to be directed by Ruben Fleischer, who did Zombieland. Yep, okay. And he also did Gangster Squad, which I haven't seen. I didn't see Gangster Squad.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Apparently it's terrible. Are they a squad of gangsters or are they a squad to take down gangsters? That's a good question. Here's a question for you. Are the Hat Squad for hats or against hats? Who are the Hat Squad? I'll answer your question. They are. They're for hats. They a question for you are the hat squad four hats are against hats who are the hats i'll answer your question they are they're four hats they wear hats who are the hat squad the hat squad was it i'm sure we've talked about this show before i don't think so the hat squad was a tv show about like three young men who were following in the footsteps of their detective father and we have talked about this so they all wore hats they all wore a hat
Starting point is 00:26:24 they were like imagine like 90s teens with their all-ring hats. What, like fedoras? Yes. Excellent. I mean, it's not difficult to imagine that. No, certainly not. This is due out October 5th of 2018, so a bit over a year away. And also, Venom will hail from Sony's Marvel Universe of Characters
Starting point is 00:26:41 and will not be a spin-off of the current Marvel Cinematic Universe, whereas Sony are allowing Marvel to use Spider-Man. So forget what you know about Tom Holland's Spider-Man. This ain't your grandpappy's Venom. No. Or is it? Yeah, so it's not connected to the Marvel Universe. Sony are still hell-bent on building their own Spider-Man universe
Starting point is 00:27:03 without Spider-Man using Spider-Man spinoff characters, even though they already tried it and they ruined it immediately. They didn't even get to one spinoff. Yeah, right. So there you go. Yeah, incredible. Yeah. So I like the casting.
Starting point is 00:27:16 I like the director. I haven't seen Gangster Squad, so who knows. Does this mean that they're going to... Do you think that Tom Hardy is going to be Venom in place of Spider-Man? I think they're going to do Agent Venom. I think they're going to... Venom's origin and a lot of his... Most of his...
Starting point is 00:27:33 All of his early stories revolve around him beating up Spider-Man. Yes. And if there's no... Unless they cast another Spider-Man, which will not happen. That'd be very embarrassing. Yeah. Like, again, we've totally talked about the TV series would be very embarrassing. Yeah. Again, we've totally talked about the TV series Birds of Prey,
Starting point is 00:27:51 which is like a Batman spin-off, but Batman is not. He's in the opening title sequence and that's it kind of thing. It's just embarrassing. They always have to keep alluding to this character, but they never show the character. And if they do that in this, it's just going to be embarrassing. They keep having to, oh, look out, Spider-Man's going to get you, but he never shows up.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Absolutely. So I think they're just going to have to go, he's a... He's a war vet. He's a war vet. Also, do you think it's going to be Eddie Brock or do you think it's going to be Flash Thompson? I think it's going to be Eddie Brock. Okay, right. Yeah, I guess they can combine the two.
Starting point is 00:28:18 They could be like, okay, Eddie Brock is a war vet and... Yeah, totally. Okay. I think, yeah, I think they'll go with Eddie Brock for the name recognition, but they'll bring in elements of Flash Thompson. I think they'll take the best elements. He's a 39-year-old man who's beating up teens at a high school.
Starting point is 00:28:35 They had the school bully element and that's it. Well, that was one thing that struck me with the casting was... He's twice Tom Holland age. Yeah, he is, which again i that's when i i didn't actually realize straight away that this wasn't connected so if it was that's a weird choice yes then again michael kitten's like 70 years old but he doesn't have to be the same ages yeah right he's in the comics he's not the same vulture's not the same age as spider-man but yeah i don't look even if this is good sony are gonna fuck this this up. Absolutely. They might do a couple of good ones, but it's a matter of time before they do.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Yeah. I mean, I guess I want to see a good Venom movie. Do you? Yeah, I do. Maybe they bring in Carnage. Maybe they do a Venom Carnage movie. They could do Venom Carnage. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Yeah. Someone tweeted this, and I'm sorry I don't have this in front of me. But, oh, no, I do have it in front of me. All right. Tommy West says, do you think Tom Hardy is a good Venom? Yes. I think also regardless, like if he's Flash Thompson already, Brock. Yeah, it wouldn't matter.
Starting point is 00:29:34 And who would you cast as Carnage? Jackie O'Haley. David Tennant. Oh, that's good too. Thank you. I don't know if he could do the accent. Yeah. Because his American accent's, because he's Southern, isn because he's from the southern isn't he yeah cassidy i was gonna say jackie o'haley
Starting point is 00:29:49 because he's he's got he's got the the thin weird face he's got the face of a man in prison exactly but also he's quite small yeah they could just they could cgi all the weird limbs around him just weird flailing yeah they stand you- You can just have him hold some sticks. And stand him on a box. Yep, exactly. And then just flail
Starting point is 00:30:08 about. Yeah. Yeah, so no, I- Look, I like a lot of this, but I have no faith in Sony to pull this off in the long term.
Starting point is 00:30:17 But that's the thing, and also, Spider-Man's rogues gallery is so big, and he's gone on so many adventures, and what have you. It's such ripe ground if they were any good at this but they're not and look forward to the silver sable movie that's silver sable black cat movie that they're also now i was i was informed recently
Starting point is 00:30:35 because there's going to be a silver sable black cat series and i said a few weeks ago when was the last time silver sable was ever in was even in a comic book because the last time I remember seeing her in a comic book was like in the 90s. But apparently she showed up like in April in a Spider-Man comic. In your face, Mason. In my face. You're an idiot. Yeah. All right.
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Starting point is 00:31:48 It had a $97 million budget. So it'll easily make its money back. But it probably shouldn't. There's $40 million less on the budget than Prometheus, which I didn't actually notice to the film's credit. I think it looks better. I agree. Anyway, that's all the I think it looks better. I agree. Maybe because there's more.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Anyway, that's all the nice things we can say about this movie. You really, I was going to ask you, you're obviously not a fan. No, look, I think it looked great. I think. It's cast well. I think the way they've attempted to shoehorn this into the existing alien mythos, I actually think is quite inventive but i know a lot of people would be like oh this is so contrived and garbage and it's also wrong it also contradicts shit which we'll get to okay yeah spoilers okay yeah uh and look i think the most
Starting point is 00:32:36 obvious thing and i'm sure you've had you you've had this thought as well yeah it's a movie populated by the dumbest people alive yes it, that's right. Soon to be dead. And the thing is, look, we'll get into it. Specifically the dumbest scientists alive. Yeah. I mean, they're not all scientists, but when you look and, hang on, we'll just get into it. Look, before we do that, though, we'll go non-spoilers and then spoilers. We'll clearly mark it.
Starting point is 00:32:59 There'll be timestamp. There's all the stuff that I really want to say about this. Yes. I can't say. It's in spoilers. So it's mostly me going, just biting my okay wow until that happens but uh we also did a we're starting up caravan of garbage again yes we are but for the moment just video games because we can do a whole bunch at once and record them so i've got a little doohickey correct we've got
Starting point is 00:33:20 out we've done the first one for aliens arcade from 1990 the aim, so it's like a bonus kind of weekly planet episode every week. It goes up on my YouTube channel, Mr. Sunday Movies. I'll link it below. So we had a great, good, fun time playing through all of that. And we're going to try and do video games that roughly tie into whatever's happening that week. Yeah, right. So this week we did a Pirates of the Caribbean one. So they're either going to be out depending, unless I do a video.
Starting point is 00:33:46 So this week I'm going to do a Pirates review in the next couple of days. And then that video will go up on Thursday. But normally we'll try to get it up earlier in the week. So roughly there'll be videos on my channel Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday. Nice. That's the idea. And we've got a whole bunch of them kind of banked up, don't we, that we're getting from Ben and Matt who are sorting that out so uh those are those are some good those two
Starting point is 00:34:08 fighting it out correct did you enjoy going playing video games i did we finally figured out a way to do it do a whole bunch in a row without losing our minds and breaking things exactly yeah you think it'd be more user-friendly at this point. Well, it is now. Yeah, sure. I've ironed out most of the kinks. Anyway, Mason, what did you think the story was of Alien 2? Oh, you distracted me with video game talk. All right, hang on. So, all right. So it's post-Prometheus.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Yes. And it's years later. Ten years. Ten years to the very day. Why, there hasn't been an alien in this haunted house for many a year. I haven't seen a Prometheus around these parts in nigh of a decade. Nigh on a decade. Nigh of a decade.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Go on. So now the human ship, the Covenant, is on a mission to go to a planet they hear is pretty good for- That's the word. To terraform, to create a new colony of humans because apparently we've ruined the earth again but apparently then things get a little bit terrified instead instead of terraformed correct for all its flaws i wasn't like this is offensively bad it's just there's a lot of missed potential here and really stupid characters there's so many
Starting point is 00:35:25 stupid characters i feel look i like the look of it yeah i think they've they've done quite well in like dovetailing the the super pretty kind of super technology of like the last movie into like the rotten future of yeah the the the original aliens alien and aliens films yeah but at the same time i think the characters are so stupid in this film. And I think there are tense moments in the film. Yep. And some of the action looks good. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:35:54 And I think some of the alien designs look really good. Yep. But also, I think the characters are so dumb that it overwhelms every element. So anytime I see a tense moment, I'm like, yeah, that was pretty tense, but if these characters weren't so stupid, they would never have been put in this situation in the first place. I've made a list, but I'll save it for spoilers. We are on the same page for this in a big way.
Starting point is 00:36:16 I feel like it's got the same problems with Prometheus, maybe even a little bit more amplified in some cases. It's cast really well, but like you said, stupidest amplified in some cases. It's cast really well. Yes. But like you said, stupidest characters in the world. But I love Danny McBride in this. He was easily my favourite person in this. Fassbender's great.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Double Fassbender. What about current Ripley? She's okay. I wouldn't say she's amazing. She's pretty good. I think Fassbender's performance is pretty good in the sense that he has to play, as with every, because he's a synthetic in in this as he is in the previous one he has to toe the line between is he a good guy or is he a bad guy what's going on what's he been programmed to do this time is he gonna betray them is he gonna work with them kind of thing
Starting point is 00:36:56 well it goes in order that's so if you just look at the order of the films they came out it's good android bad android good so just yeah that way but at the same time, like, you know, if you've never seen one of these movies before, they kind of telegraph. Like the first scene in the movie, you're given David from the original movie and his creator, Guy Pearce, is like, why don't you play a song on the piano?
Starting point is 00:37:21 And he's like, I'll play white supremacist Richard Wagner. And I'm a weird... Man. Am I a bad guy? I reckon I am. I mean, that's not a spoiler, I guess, because it's the very first sequence. But as soon as you turn that guy on, shut him off.
Starting point is 00:37:37 He's clearly... There's something way off about that robot. Yeah, you've made a terrible mistake. Yeah. And again, that's not really a spoiler, because he's in Prometheus. That's right. And also the promo material spoils his role in this film in a big, massive way,
Starting point is 00:37:52 which I guess if you haven't seen it, we'll save that more for spoilers. Look, okay, so for Fast and Furious, right? Yes. Those are not intelligent movies. But Fast and Furious is very aware of what it is. Yes. look okay so for fast and furious right yes those are not intelligent movies but fast and furious is very aware of what it is yes it's a bunch of dumb people mostly bald yeah sliding around on car bonnets and jumping over submarines or whatever this as i said in my review it masquerades as like high concept sci-fi and the ethical dilemmas about what it means to be human and blurring the line and exploring other planets
Starting point is 00:38:25 and colonisation and whatnot. But then it is undercut by, like you said, the dumbest people that you could possibly send into space. Yeah, right. And there's also a really jarring cut between, I find, when this movie shifts from Prometheus to Alien. Yeah. It's like a scene and then you're like, oh, now we're doing Alien.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Yeah, right. The first three quarters is is prometheus and then in the last 20 30 minutes they wedge an alien movie and i don't think that transition is as seamless as it possibly could have been and i also don't think that this story was the one they were going to tell from prometheus it feels like a lot of this is oh shit what people didn't like about the last movie was there was no xenomorph yeah right that's not what people didn't like about that movie they liked a lot of the stuff that they liked a lot of the new world building and the new characters and i don't think people were angry that there was no xenomorph in it they were angry
Starting point is 00:39:16 that you put a weird proto xenomorph that had no impact on the future of the franchise that's true that movie could have been completely xenomorph free-free. Yeah, you're right. It doesn't matter. That's not the problem with these movies because you're building towards the Xenomorph. We know that. You said you were going to do a trilogy or 10 movies. Yeah, right. One a year until he dies.
Starting point is 00:39:37 That's right, exactly. But I also think if you're doing the alien elements of it, there's the gore and the blood and there's some great kind of chestburster scenes and there's a few variations on that but none of it is and maybe it's because i'm older and i've kind of seen this before as a father as a father it's not particularly scary is it there's nothing no absolutely not no as when you look at that original alien chestburster scene you cannot top that even though it kind of you can see it's a weird little puppet yep and this one they can actually unfold and crawl around.
Starting point is 00:40:05 But I also think that this movie definitely telegraphed all the, like, it's all, everything that's happened, everything that happens, and again, it's tied into how stupid the characters are. Yeah. Every element there is telegraphed. It's like. You know who's got the chest burst at all. Yeah, don't.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Or whatever. You shouldn't have done that. Don't look in there. Don't stand there. What were you thinking? Why are you ducking off for at all. Yeah, don't. Or whatever. You shouldn't have done that. Don't look in there. Don't stand there. What were you thinking? Why are you ducking off for a smoke? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Crazy. Did you like the... So you liked the new designs? Yes. I didn't think there was anything better than the original Alien, but it's nice to see, I guess, some variations on... Yeah, but I also think the original Alien... See, that's the thing. I think there was...
Starting point is 00:40:43 There is a new design in this that i think was quite effective in okay in building tension i think all right fair enough but it's do you want to save that for spoilers yeah let's save the spoilers yeah i don't because i'm not sure which one you specifically yeah but i also think that the the the alien in this does look very good yeah totally it's the best it's ever looked at yeah 100 yeah absolutely and there's also throwbacks to kind of when you do it, there's throwbacks to the original Alien where it does walk a bit more upright. You know, it's got that, because the first one was kind of lanky and kind of guy in a
Starting point is 00:41:11 suit. And this has kind of shades of that with some CGI touches. So the legs are thinner and it can kind of shimmy about and whatnot. But I also feel like they burnt through, they burnt through Aliens really quickly. You know, it wasn't quite Aliens where there was a whole lot at once. It was like, we got that one. Oh, there's another one. We got that one.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Oh, there's another one. We got that one. Like that happened like five or six times in this movie. Not that we need to see either a hundred aliens or one. Right. You know, I just thought that was kind of a weird way to do it. I know they're going to make these more at least. Another one's filming next year.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I just want to see them keep tying this into a knot. You know what I mean? That's where I want this to go. If you hate Alien vs. Predator and Alien 3 and whatever, this is as flawed in those movies but in a different way. They just look shinier and they're cast better. This has got a better cast and more pretense that it's, like you said earlier, it's about God and the origin of life
Starting point is 00:42:11 and the universe or whatever, whereas Alien vs. Predator is kind of just like shooty-shooty. Yeah, exactly. And I don't think that's a great film by any stretch, but they're both flawed in their own kind of ways. Worst movie ever. Yeah, I agree. I don't hate it. I just don't know what they're both flawed in their own kind of ways. Worst movie ever. Yeah, I agree. I don't hate it.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I just don't know what they're doing. Spoilers? Spoilers. What was the design that you liked? Oh, I liked the white aliens. The Neomorph. Yeah, the Neomorph. Is that what it's called?
Starting point is 00:42:37 I don't know. There's the scene where there's the fully grown one and we see David communicating with it. The way that it breathed and that sunken chest kind of thing, I thought that was kind of interesting. Yeah, totally. I'd agree with that. I don't think that's better than the original alien design,
Starting point is 00:42:56 but yeah, it's nice to see something new that's not horrendous, like that human-alien hybrid from before. So here's the thing that I did enjoy about this and that I think a lot of people will probably be here's the thing that I did enjoy about this, and that I think a lot of people will probably be like, oh, that's contrived and dumb. I actually like the idea that David created so many alien hybrids that he eventually ended up creating the original alien. Sure.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I thought that was good. Yeah. Because the idea being that the alien is this, we're like, oh, it's obviously it's always been a biological weapon of some sort. Yeah. And we've thought that it's these engineers that created it to destroy us or to create this bioweapon or like to maybe they sell it to people or they use it to conquer worlds or whatever.
Starting point is 00:43:36 I like the idea that Guy Pearce creates David who creates these aliens that eventually are going to destroy us. Because David's purpose is to learn and create and build. And that was obviously the flaw in his programming because if you're left alone in a cave with a whole bunch of alien goo, then that's what you're going to do. Like if you left him alone with a piano, you probably would have made a really sinister piano.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Yeah, if you leave him alone with a recorder, he does some sexy recorder stuff with other Fassbender. Boy, does he. Oh, my. You know the line? You're talking about that line? What's he say again? Let me do the fingering.
Starting point is 00:44:11 That's right. That got a laugh in. Yeah, absolutely. Why wouldn't it have? Is it supposed to? No. I doubt it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I don't think Ridley Scott is aware of. You're probably right. I quite like that scene, though. I quite like a lot of the David stuff. And I agree with you that I like the idea if you leave one of these lunatic robots alone, this is what he's going to do. Yeah. Because that's what he's programmed for.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Yeah, and I also like the idea because, I don't know, I guess it's a nod to H.R. Giger. Well, he's got all the sketches. He's got all the etchings and stuff like that. I like the idea that a human created all these monstrous artistic creations. Right, right. And now it turned out humanity in its way created the actual monsters. Sure. Like the final form, this ultimate alien xenomorph monster he created.
Starting point is 00:44:57 See, what I do have a problem with- But I can see the idea of people going like, so it's- Well, why can't it just exist as is? Yeah, why did man create- But I mean, yeah, like, yeah, I guess. going like oh so it's well why can't it just exist as yeah why did man but i mean yeah like yeah i guess but what i didn't like about that though was that the ship that they discover this is where some continuity comes in in the original alien has been there for thousands potentially millions of years yeah right one fossilized into a chair and they have face huggers there yeah so i
Starting point is 00:45:20 mean unless david went there and put them all there, which I guess is possible, or that he managed to stumble upon a form of these aliens the same way that the engineers did at one point. Oh, that's too much of a stretch, which means that's how they're going to do it. Yeah. I don't know. I guess, this wasn't exactly revealed in the prologue material, but when he shows up on the engineers planet and he kills them all. Yeah. Potentially, after this, maybe he goes and he hunts down the rest of the engineers. I guess so.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Because there was only like a few thousand of them. Yeah. Maybe he goes to hunt down the rest of the engineers because they're like, well, maybe they'll build a countermeasure against this alien. So he goes and he plants these, he plants the xenomorph eggs in their ship and he kills the rest of them. And then that's what Ripley's crew finds. But then why is it fossilized into the chair? This is set like 10 years before the first alien or whatever it is, 10, 20 years.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Yeah, I don't know, man. You know? And it's got a big hole in its chest, meaning something came out of it. That's true. Maybe it wasn't the original alien, but I think they've really tied themselves into a knot with this.
Starting point is 00:46:20 They kind of have now that you think about it. Which I love. What I also don't understand about this xenomorph is, right? Yes. Okay, so. But I also like the idea that he built so many delivery methods for everything. Now it goes in your ears. Now it goes in your nose.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Now this comes out your back. Now it comes out your chest. Yeah, see, I don't even know whether he did do that or whether that was just a byproduct of that stuff being in the universe. Yeah, right. You get some on some mushrooms and that's what it does. Yeah, right. But I don't understand why his version of the ultimate alien,
Starting point is 00:46:44 which is somehow build an air gap of the entrails of a human woman, which I presume what he did is what he did. I don't know that. It wasn't really made clear. Because there's a lot of those eggs that he built somehow. So then there's a weird spider in there. So then you get another person to put their face over it and then it jumps on them and lays an egg in them
Starting point is 00:47:01 and then an alien bursts out. How is that better or more efficient than a mushroom you stand on and a spore goes in your ear? And then 10 minutes later, an alien bursts out. That's true. Why is that one better than the other one? Because this one's a cooler alien. Yeah, well, that's exactly right, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:47:14 But also, you're right. We didn't mention it earlier, but I thought it was very odd that the chest bursting in now is just a tiny version of the alien. Yeah, because it used to be a little penis, pink penis. Yeah, a little penis snake thing, right? Yeah, and then it's scurried off. That's technology kind of upgrading, I guess. Did you like the bit where it came out and put its hands up?
Starting point is 00:47:35 It did little jazz hands. Yeah, I love that bit. I think that's got to be like a meme or a joke. Very soon. As soon as I saw that, I'm like, oh, that's a mistake. Also, what is the gestational cycle of an alien in terms of how long it stays in a person? Billy Crudup had one in him for- Like 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:47:51 10 minutes. Ripley had one in her in Alien 3 for days, bearing in mind that that was a queen, so it probably takes longer. But then you look at William Hurt's one was maybe a few hours. Yeah. It varies kind of movie to movie i'm just confused by overly hung up by that no absolutely not on your body fat level it could very well so if you've got a low bmi yeah is that what that is quick it's really crud up looks like he's ripped as yeah i keep confusing
Starting point is 00:48:18 him with jim cavizio okay sure so i'm like oh because there's all the christ parallels that's why they've got jim cavizio and then i'm like, oh, no, it's Billy Crudup. See, I even like that element of the Billy Crudup character where he was like, well, I'm a religious man and that's why I wasn't made captain. That's why they don't respect me and whatever. No, they don't respect you because you're kind of a dick. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And that's the reasoning behind it. But I like the idea that you've got these different people to go out to colonize this planet, you know. I wasn't even sure at first whether, so the embryos there, I'm presuming this is what it was, the embryos in the drawers, they're for new life, and everybody who's just hanging in a shelf are frozen humans who are fully grown, that they defrost them and they're ready to go.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Yes. Is that the idea? Yes. Okay, good. Excellent. Right. Okay, here's some dumb stuff. They intercept a message of an ancient Earth song
Starting point is 00:49:07 from a planet that had remained hidden for inexplicable reasons. And so they decide to change the entire course of where they're going to go to this uncharted system because they heard a song which shouldn't be on a planet that they didn't know was there because it was not there prior. Is your question why couldn't they just send like a probe
Starting point is 00:49:27 or a drone or something? I don't understand why every single person didn't go, this seems like a trap. Yeah, right. One of them did. New Ripley did. But everybody else was like, no, this seems legit. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Nobody said, why is there this song playing from this planet? Yeah, right. Nobody said that, which is insane. Yeah. And nobody said, oh, look at this wheat. This is definitely wheat. Well, the guy said, this is wheat, and it's set out like it's farming. And nobody said, do you think there might be some kind of people
Starting point is 00:50:01 or something alive here? There must be, right? And they just went hey let's go down to this planet should we wear space suits no are you kidding me just because there's oxygen as i said in my review doesn't mean there's not viruses which there was yeah and then there's people splitting up they're splitting up in caves one guy he just goes off to have a dart just dart up wherever mate you're on a you're on a planet you can do whatever you want you're at you're outdoors yeah everyone darts up in the alien movies.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Remember the first alien people are just darting up on the ship? Yeah. Just punching darts, mate. Just punching durries. That's right. There's another bit where the guy who's the alien is going to spring out of his back, right? And he's just spitting and spraying blood everywhere. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:50:42 And then she goes to give him a hug. Yeah. And he's just convulsing and spraying blood all over the room. Madness. At one point she leans into his back wound. His pulsating back wound. Just like... And there's so many moments in this where you're like,
Starting point is 00:50:56 just stand up. Why are you running directly over that pool of blood? Yeah, that's right. You've got to slip in that. And there's obviously the billy crudup bit where he puts his face over the egg but what's even stupider about that moment when i actually saw the movie was that that's after he sees david interact with an alien which david is trying to protect even though it's just bitten the head off a woman and he shoots it to
Starting point is 00:51:20 death and david has a big fucking hissy fit about it yeah and then david goes you know what i'll come and show you what i've been what what i'm doing yeah hey come on you can trust me yeah put your face over this egg it's completely fine again and he does it yeah again so here's the thing if you're in if you exist in the alien universe you haven't seen the alien films but surely you've seen something yes that would suggest to you maybe don't lean into the pulsating egg on the advice of a of an insane robot yeah right also the viral marketing and we talked about this before and i said i'm okay with the viral marketing as long as it kind of adds to the film without spoiling elements of it and whatever it does spoil elements yeah it flat out spoils elements it spoils the david's evil because you see him loading up the ship
Starting point is 00:52:05 and he's going to, because there's that, he talks about when, oh, and I accidentally deployed the weapon and they all were killed. I've seen the footage that you didn't do that, that, you know, that's not what happened. You clearly did it on purpose. And the other bit was, what is it? No, sorry, the crew bonding time. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I feel like this movie kind of needed that. Yeah, because we don't care about, yeah, there's not a lot to humanize these characters we know they're couples and that some of them love some of the other ones and they're like hey don't stay away from my wife haha kind of yeah and i like danny mcbride yeah sure but if we'd say if we if they'd put that scene in there would be like we'd be more inclined to care when they're all killed yeah it wasn't the movie wasn't too long where if you put that in it would have been like oh geez yeah right get along i thought it was quite brisk and the thing is i i know when you when you have characters in alien and a lot of people have made this defense that well the characters in alien uh they're there's you know they're also idiots because they're putting their face over whatever
Starting point is 00:52:57 when he put his face over the egg he had a he had a helmet on right yes and it burnt through it regardless yes or jumped through it. Also, they're truckers. They're not scientists. Yeah, right. All of these people are some, most of them are some variation on a scientist or some just build log cabins. Speaking of continuity, this is a letter from Garrett, weeklyplanetpod.gmail.com. Very good.
Starting point is 00:53:20 And his question is, given that David walsh on the planet created the classic alien egg yeah uh that would mean that the history was shown in the first alien versus predator never happened as it said that the predators used the humans from the time of the aztecs to make aliens for hunting right so there's another there's i guess are those movies in continuity at all yeah you'd think so yeah i guess they are amazing are. Amazing. I mean, there's not enough. It's not like there's a hundred Alien films and they're like, well, don't count those ones. Or there's been a million reboots. There's only half a dozen, so.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Exactly. You've done it again, Garrett. Also, why is David kissing everyone? Stop kissing everyone. Yeah, stop kissing everyone, you weirdo. Okay, what I did like no do you think what ultimately turned david insane was all the kissing the kissing certainly because he was kiss crazy like a kiss crazy girl but right in the opening scene guy pierce creates first of all is that
Starting point is 00:54:19 finally we got the payoff why did you hire guy pierce and put him in exactly old man makeup here it is he's in the prequel um do you think what turned him insane is right in the opening sequence guy pierce is there he activates david yeah and then he's like hey pass me that tea which is right next to him on the chair and so david has to stop playing the piano and walk all the way across the room pour the tea and then hand it to him the tea that's a foot away from i think i literally i don't think that i think that definitely added yeah but i think he's like humanity needs to die yeah because this is a waste of my time and it's the it's like the robot that fetches butter yeah because it was it seemed cruel and mean to be
Starting point is 00:54:54 like stop what you're doing yeah this ultimate marvel of technology and pour this tea that i could easily pick up and do myself absolutely i think that's what did it you know what so there's a david twist as well. Yes. Where I like the Walter and David dynamic. Yep. I like that Walter didn't have that in him to create. Like he wasn't built that way.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Yeah, right. And I also like the way when it came down to them, they were fighting. Walter was missing a hand. Yes. But he was more skilled in combat. Yeah, that was good. And David is an older model, but he has both of his hands.
Starting point is 00:55:22 And he's also a bit more ruthless. He knows, well, he thinks he knows how to shut, he knows how to hit a robot's weak point. So I guess they both do. On the back of that fight, you don't see Walter smash David's head in. And then the next shot you see of Walter, who's clearly David, he's giving a sinister look.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Yeah, right. And then we're supposed to be surprised at the end when it's revealed that David has torn off his own arm and replaced Walter on the ship. Yeah, and it's revealed that david has torn off his own arm and replaced walter on the ship yeah and it's and it's it's interesting there's no way to check that like if if all the the ship's computer should recognize yeah right i'd assume yeah and the other thing is it's it's made apparent that when you put a flute through walter's neck he self-repairs yes somebody on that ship should probably have realized that the robot that
Starting point is 00:56:05 came back on board was covered in scratches yeah right and maybe they didn't know that walter could self-repair but also he got stabbed in the chin with a nail which is probably some kind of christ allegory yeah i don't know but that scar wasn't there which did he repair that but leave the others? But also, what he had to do there was David would have had to kill Walter, then cut off one of his own hands, and then change his outfit. Maybe you change your outfit before you cut off one of your own hands. Maybe, yeah, you probably would.
Starting point is 00:56:36 And then catch up with the rest of them. Surely that would take more than the 30 seconds that he did it in. Yeah, absolutely. He's a robot. He's very efficient, isn't he? Yeah. And another thought about that, what was it? Well, I've got a thought or two thoughts.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Well, first of all, I thought that was the way it was going to go, that it was clearly not Walter, but I thought there was going to be a fake out because they telegraphed it so heavily that I thought the twist was going to be something else. Either it be that the movie leaves it ambiguous as to whether or not it's David or Walter, but it's clearly just David.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Or something in Walter snapped and he came around to David's way of thinking. Because that's what David was trying to do, was trying to teach him how to create and do whatever and be more like him and kind of throw off the shackles of his programming. But it's neither of those things. Neither of those things. It it's just david yeah you would think that they're because if all the end if there's this same model of android all the time like it always looks the same surely there's a device you can just be like which one are you beep yeah beep beep oh you're a different one okay
Starting point is 00:57:40 and you would think you would check to see whether that's walter or not especially since there's been an evil robot that looks exactly like him that is trying to kill you maybe you probably would yeah i mean i would me too i'm not an expert yeah you could you could literally even be like hey what did i have for breakfast yesterday yeah oh you don't know you're the other guy exactly you're dead but she does do that after she's being sedated yeah she's in a glass case yeah yeah or whatever james franco caught fire didn't he you sure did yeah it's pretty good he is pretty that's pretty good but i think that chin thing though i hate to get back to it it really bothers me because david is clearly not self-repairing yes or the very least because he doesn't even
Starting point is 00:58:21 know that walter can repair yeah but he did that scar under his chin. It's not there. I looked for it. Right. Because that was one of the things to see. I wanted to know whether or not that was, which robot that was. And that kind of threw me as in, what the hell is happening? So is there no explanation for that?
Starting point is 00:58:40 Can he repair just his chin, but not his face? Right. Just neck level repairs. I don't know. I got some reviews here. Okay, I'm ready. for that? Can he repair just his chin but not his face? Right. Just neck level repairs. I don't know. I got some reviews here. Okay, I'm ready. It's from Joel Allen.
Starting point is 00:58:51 It's on Twitter. Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. Hey guys, big fan. Oh, nice. Just saw Covenant. Was a bit disappointed. Is it just me or was the David Walter twist
Starting point is 00:58:57 all too obvious? Yeah. Yep. Maybe the initial plan was for something else. Yeah, maybe. But they're like, oh, we've got him here. I think the initial plan for this movie was something else. Yeah, maybe. But they're like, oh, we've got him here.
Starting point is 00:59:05 I think the initial plan for this movie was something else. Yeah, right. And they went, oh, it's not enough like Alien. This is from Daniel Davis. Alien Covenant was terrible. With all its flaws, the biggest that I felt was that I didn't care for the characters. Yeah, fair call. Also, I kind of think that new Ripley as Ripley, as action hero Ripley, kind of came out of nowhere in the third act.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Right. Did you feel that? Yeah. She was mostly ineffectual for most of the movie. Yeah. Like, I'm not about action or doing anything. I just want to- Just let me build my cabin.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Yeah. And then at the end, she's like, bring down the construction arm and I'll- give me a gun and I'll hook myself to the thing and I'll leap off the side. You're a hundred percent right. I didn't, I didn't know where I didn't think of that because when you look at aliens,
Starting point is 00:59:50 well, an alien, it's out of necessity. She's just trying to survive. It's not an action hero moment. She just does some quick thinking on her feet at the very end of the movie. Yeah. In aliens,
Starting point is 00:59:58 she's forced to go into the, to the queen nest and rescue and get in the power loader because of Newt. That's the reasoning. But yeah, you're absolutely completely right. Do you think that Ridley Scott got notes from his producers or what have you that are like, everybody's doing a soft reboot now. We have to do a soft reboot.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Remember in Aliens when she threw the alien out of the airlock with the power loader? Can you do that? Just do it again. Just do it again. You know what scene I really do like? What's that? There were some really great moments in this movie,
Starting point is 01:00:29 which is a shame. I mean, that's not a shame. It's a shame there's not more. Yeah. When Ripley 5 loses James Franco, and she's crying in the stock area, you know, where they're looking over the materials, and she's with Walter, and she goes,
Starting point is 01:00:44 we were supposed to go and build a cabin together what what am i supposed to do now and him being a robot that's kind of programmed to be not a psychopath he knows the exact right thing to say he's like you should absolutely still build your cabin and you know she gets emotional and whatever and you ties those two characters together yes i thought that was a great moment okay yeah yeah but fuck everything else but undercut later when she's like you're gonna still help me build my cabin yeah exactly yeah i'm gonna murder you it's weird right it's real weird why would you choose that moment why would you oh you'd slap a bomb on his back and be like cabin and then he'd be like i don't know what you mean and then you'd blow the bomb up real easy this is from toby frog face oh yeah because i think we said toby mcguire has a frog
Starting point is 01:01:31 face once that's maybe it's just a coincidence i just saw alien covenant thought it was well made paul the execute executed slasher fastband and mcbride were great yeah look i think a lot of the yeah again the tension building was good. And if the characters weren't so dumb, I think it would have been quite effective. Yeah, fair enough. But every single time I'm like, don't look in the egg. Don't look in the egg. Don't lean. No, it's opening.
Starting point is 01:01:55 It's opening. Step back. Yeah, right? Yeah. What did he think was going to be in there? Did he think Jesus was going to be in there? I think maybe he did. It's very possible that he thought Jesus was going to be in there. i don't know man i don't know yeah uh this is from uh damn
Starting point is 01:02:10 wags despite some uh some dumb moments i enjoyed alien covenant i really like david's plot uh but the final alien scene was unnecessary agreed fair enough uh this is from last one it's from zena uh my favorite thing about alien covenant wasvenant was how James Franco's character died. Yeah. Fantastic. Anyway, do you want to see another one? Yeah. Me too.
Starting point is 01:02:32 It's weird, right? Let's get into it. Yeah. Let's just go down this rabbit hole. Now, Mason, I know- It's verging into Terminator territory, I feel, for me, where it's making no sense and the continuity's breaking. But I'm just like, yeah, let's see what happens. What else is going to happen?
Starting point is 01:02:46 And again, if it's leaning more towards the HR giga, like disgusting, gross, biomechanical stuff, then I'm all for that. Yeah, okay, fair enough, yeah. Do you think, but him being dead, do you think that kind of, do you think anybody can design something on that level? Probably not, but they have enough reference material to steal. Absolutely. Well, Mason, I know that people are a big fan of this segment.
Starting point is 01:03:15 I only bring it in occasionally. Oh, yes. But I feel like this is... Because my review for this went up a little bit earlier than... Because I'm a real critic and I see movies a lot of the time. You're one of the- Actually, no, I just went to a morning screening of it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:28 It was out on a Thursday morning. But so I thought I'd bring back, so I got a bit of flack for my negative review. Oh, what? So I decided to bring back Hate Mail, but the hate has an eight in it. Fantastic. Where I read out eight bits of hate mail,
Starting point is 01:03:43 but it's never eight. I'm ready. Are you ready? Yes. yeah here we go this is from andy peters what a moaning c-bomb of a reviewer did he say c-bomb no he did not hello this review is shat all right uh this one says it's mask this is the quote that he put that i said it's masquerading itself as being a new concept and then he says that's what i said yes and he said um no it doesn't the entire marketing the film was centered around it being an alien prequel in the return to form of the franchise so whatever expectations you had for the film are rendered completely unrealistic that makes it your own damn fault start making good videos again mr sunday because this one was absolute shit hello bearing bearing
Starting point is 01:04:23 in mind i didn't say it's masquerading itself as being a new concept. I said as being high concept. Right. So the basis for this criticism is very much incorrect. Yes, that's right. Maybe rather than being critical, you should bloody get some new ears, mate.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Yeah, maybe I should. Not you, him. Oh, okay. And since you misheard what I just said then, maybe you should get some new ears, mate. That was from Brian Doherty. This is from Carlos Yu. You suck at reviews.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Just say it's okay. Stop trying. It's spelled T-R-Y-N to explain. It's spelled X and then play. Yeah, why would you explain anything in a review? I wouldn't. Just say it's okay. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:05:03 Why waste minutes either creating or watching a review when you could just have some rando who's you don't know anything about their life or what they what their values in a movie are just say it's okay it's okay imagine that imagine you had however many hundred thousand youtube subscribers on the back of every review was 10 seconds and you went, it's okay. I think there's something to that. Yeah, maybe. This one's from Sean McClure and it just says 1 trillion thumbs down.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Brutal. See, that's a thing. That's a record, right? Yeah, but I mean also. Is that to me or the movie actually? I don't know. See, that's the thing. If you just said it's okay, what does that mean?
Starting point is 01:05:43 But this guy, one trillion thumbs down is he referring to you or the movie or the breakfast he had you know dog what are you doing get away from my mic this is from Mr. Guess Who
Starting point is 01:05:52 just says fuck this channel and there's five exclamation marks yeah feel strongly about it absolutely I respect that this one says you only like generic movies
Starting point is 01:06:02 with ton of joked I got two more this is from This one says, you only like generic movies with ton of joked. I got two more. Why are there so many 14 to 16 year old boys, which is what I'm assuming this person is, who hate jokes so much? At that age, 14 to 16, 12 to 16-year-old boys, I love jokes. You love jokes. What's wrong with jokes? Why can't I go to a movie and go, ha-ha, that was fun and I enjoyed it?
Starting point is 01:06:33 But I think there's the impression that people have. You guys just love the Marvel movies because they're full of jokes. Yes. They're funny and I like them. Not all of them, though. No, that's true. Some more than others. But yeah, but you can like different things also. Like, I didn't feel like this was a good alien film.
Starting point is 01:06:47 I like great sci-fi movies and great alien films. Yeah. This is not that. For me at least. This is from Bobo V. Mr. Sunday Movies, boo! If you wanted some wham bam alien action, go buy the dolls and smash them together. Whammo! You've got some Michael Bay steamy alien action. How by the dolls and smash them together whammo you've got some michael
Starting point is 01:07:06 bay steamy alien action how dare you sir disparage prometheus i'm beginning to think you don't like movies that make you think what if prometheus was a good movie go watch michael bay's transformers for some good old action porn with zero thought i don't know none of that's good none of none also the the best part of that comment is if you read the first part in Stan Lee's voice, it actually seems quite enthusiastic. I can't do a voice but I wish I could. Just imagine, do it.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Mr. Sunday Movies, boo! If you wanted some wham bam alien action. If you want some wham bam action, just get some toys and put them together. Whammo. See, it's great. It is great. I'd love to do that, actually.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Last one. Thank you for that completely biased review on the movie. I'm just saying, do it if you're going... Just saying... Stop, so I can make sense of this. I'm going to correct some grabbers. Okay, okay. Just saying, if you're going to review something,
Starting point is 01:08:02 try not to be so fucking biased and review something based on to be so fucking biased and review something based on your personal like or dislike in a way a bias and a personal like or dislike are the same thing in a way reviewing something is about it's inherently biased in a way criticizing someone else's review of something is also a bias in a way but but, isn't it? But I shouldn't do it, should I? You shouldn't definitely. Why should you do it? Why are critics so critical? Only the fans should be allowed to review things, I think. I agree.
Starting point is 01:08:32 And I think if you ever reach the point where you can make a living from being a critic, then you're a critic and you shouldn't be allowed to be a critic anymore. Agreed. I find that whenever a movie is made for the fans, it's no good. It's absolutely no good. Yeah. Unless, you know, it is good. But you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:08:51 When a studio or a director goes, you know, you hear it's bad or they hear the people and then they're like, well, it made $200 million. I didn't make it for critics. I made it for fans. So what you made it for is people who are completely uncritical of anything. Correct. I didn't imagine they went, I didn't make it for critics, I made it for people who will just,
Starting point is 01:09:07 they'll just eat up any old garbage. That's who I made it for, idiots. Total dumbasses. Ah, I love hate mail. It's good, right? We should do it more, but I don't like to overdo it, you know what I mean? Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Because it also encourages negative comments. I like the kind of good community that we've built. More so here, obviously, than YouTube. Sure, right. Because it also encourages negative comments. I like the kind of good community that we've built. More so here, obviously, than YouTube. Sure is. All right, you know what it's time for? Oh, it's time for our famous segment. What are we reading? What are we going to read?
Starting point is 01:09:35 I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? What are you reading? Well, this week I've just been re-listening to Soundgarden's Super Underdog. Yeah, man. Number of piece. That sucks. That's a soundtrack for angsty teen parties that I went to in the 90s.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Sure, in the 90s, yeah. Well, he was a staple of our teen years, wasn't he, Chris Cornell? Yeah. And it was, what, 52 when he passed away, it was revealed that he committed suicide. Yeah. Which is, whenever something like this happens, it's just, it's a whole lot of questions like, you get the questions like,
Starting point is 01:10:10 how could a man who had so much, you know, be so unfulfilled? I always go, I thought I always have when this happens, and it sounds dumb, is I go like, maybe I could have done something to stop it? Like, not like, but like on a level of like, maybe if I'd said, I'd seen him and I'd be like, hey man, you're doing a great job, you know, kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Have you ever seen Chris Connell? Never in my life. But like, I feel like- This isn't on you then. No, exactly. But I'm always like, so that's why as a result, like I, if you ever meet anybody like that, I'm always like, or even like a local person, you know, who's in a band or like, you know, comedian or actor or something like that.
Starting point is 01:10:42 I always, or, you know, if you just meet, I just, I'm always like, you're doing a great job. I like what you do kind of thing. I like, you know. Are you fishing for compliments when people see you? Is that what this is? No, absolutely. No, but more in the sense of like, if you see somebody you like, just tell them how great you think they are.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Yeah, 100%. Yeah, absolutely. Maybe they got on the surface, they got everything, but underneath they could use a little bit of encouragement. Exactly, yeah. And it's also the kind of thing where even when somebody seemingly has everything, obviously mental health, and we've been talking about it a lot this year with the Movember campaign.
Starting point is 01:11:16 It's obviously something that everybody or a lot of people kind of struggle with. So at the risk of kind of making this a shameless plug, we've got our Movember campaign for men's mental health. Yeah, we do. We didn't do the Q&A that's linked to that this week. Men's mental health. When's there going to be a campaign for men's mental health?
Starting point is 01:11:35 It's a good question. I absolutely know that. Men's day. There is one. Shut up. But, yeah, so we've raised about nearly nearly 45 000 yeah right for that yeah so if you want to contribute to that um there's also some some links to to the website if if anybody is struggling with depression or you know having any any kind of those thoughts i feel like it's one
Starting point is 01:11:57 of those situations like i've never struggled with it to the to the extent where i know a lot of other people have but i know for me, what works is exercise. I mean, I don't, you know, just going for a run, getting out, doing something. Just chin-ups. Medicine balls. No, I genuinely think there's something to keeping you moving, which makes you feel better.
Starting point is 01:12:16 And I think, and also just talking to people. Yeah, totally. You know? And I think that's a big part of it. Like someone you trust, like a friend, family member, whoever. But man, Chris Cornell, that sucks, man. Yeah. He's great.
Starting point is 01:12:30 So Super Unknown also, if you've never heard of Soundgarden, which I guess a lot of our listeners haven't, Super Unknown. Also, his first solo album is called Euphoria Morning, and it's really good. Okay, cool. Check that out. Also, he wrote what I think is the best Bond theme. You can say that.
Starting point is 01:12:44 I disagree. Which is the best one? Is it Live and Let Die? I do like Live and Let Die. There's so many good ones. Okay, cool. Check that out. Also, he wrote what I think is the best Bond theme. You can say that. I disagree. Which is the best one? Is it Live and Let Die? There's so many good ones. Okay, top three. Diamonds Are Forever. It's pretty good. There's so many good ones.
Starting point is 01:12:54 From Russia With Love. Oh, yeah. They're all kind of like... That's what I love about them. From Russia With Love is one of my favorites because it's a good song. It's good to sing at the karaoke. But but also it's just a song about a man who flies around the world looking for love like there's no clearly they went to the guy who made it uh matt monroe
Starting point is 01:13:15 and they went hey hey matt can you write a song for our film from russia with love and he's like sure thing and then a couple weeks later he gives him the tape and he's like thanks see you later i did it and he left and they went oh we didn't ask him to put any spy stuff in it oh it's so dumb we didn't ask him to put anything in about a jet pack or a or assassin's bullet or anything was oh we're idiots absolutely flying car submarine car yeah because some of those bond sogs just tell the story of a james bond adventure yeah But no, the reason I like his one is because there hadn't really been, like, there's been some variations and people trying to do something different. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:51 And it pretty much always fails. Yeah. But his one, it sounds like a Bond theme, but at the same time, it's completely different. That's true. I think it's great. I think it's a great song. What have you been reading this week? I watched, actually, it's on Netflix, train to busan which is a korean zombie horror movie set on a train on a train it's fantastic
Starting point is 01:14:12 subtitles yeah it's uh it's about a father and daughter and a whole bunch of other people they meet up with uh so the zombie infection gets on the train and then they you know they have to go carriage to carriage and make stops and whatever and Oh, they have to stop at every stop. They have to stop at every stop, exactly. You have to check tickets, even on zombies. Tickets, please. I can't remember who directed it, but if you like zombie movies, I would say this is one of the better ones, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:14:40 I would say if you like the Danny Boyle one. Yep. like the, what's the one, the Danny Boyle one. Yep. What's that one called? I can't remember. 28 Days Later. You know, if you like the Zack Snyder's Dawn of the Dead, this is more kind of that than your stand. It does something new.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Yep. And it also creates characters that you're invested in. Is there a scene? Yes. There's many scenes. Where there's somebody waiting at a train station and the train is late and they're like, hmm, and they're tapping their watch and then the train gets there and the door's open
Starting point is 01:15:08 and it's full of zombies and they're like, I'll get the next one. No, there's not. But that would have been incredible. Yeah, but no, it's, I mean, it's also, it's very, you know, it's very Korean in a lot of ways. How do you mean there? By that you mean nonsensical. No, not even.
Starting point is 01:15:23 I don't know. There's obviously just some cultural stuff that's different, but I that about it as well you know it's i like a korean film from time to time the host host i was gonna say yeah yeah pretty great might be the same is it the same director i don't want to say that because it could be racist yeah right because i potentially it is yeah i've no idea anyway so if you've got netflix it's it's on there check it out yeah i will uh what do you got mason out I will what have you got Mason you got the bloody have you got the theme ready two ready
Starting point is 01:15:47 would you like me to do some tweets yeah do some tweets while I find my letter if you hashtag weeklyplanetpod on twitter you can find
Starting point is 01:16:02 we'll go through your tweets and then we'll find them also you can send one to weekly planet pod at gmail.com and mason will read through every one of them yeah and reply in kind in kind words and pictures enjoy a little picture and i'll plant a little tree for you i'll make sure your email is carbon neutral this is from uh nostalgia ultra hashtag weekly planet pod are you guys keen for twin peaks season three or nah i wasn't the biggest fan of twin peaks back in the day i've seen it i look i'm i'm much i was much more enthused for the x-files reboot and then look how that ended up yeah but uh david Lynch is doing it. You like him?
Starting point is 01:16:46 Not really. Is that true? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Fair enough. You're the first person I've ever heard say that and that makes you wrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Look, I've got two letters on a very similar theme. Edward Capon on the email, weeklypanetpod.gmail.com and also Phil Bartoszkiewicz. Yep. Both of these guys want to know, speaking of Alien Covenant, is Ridley Scott doing a George Lucas?
Starting point is 01:17:11 Has he got George Lucas syndrome? Not as many green screens, so it's not as obvious maybe. Yeah. I guess we have to define what George Lucas syndrome is. Mad? Yeah, bad.
Starting point is 01:17:21 No, mad. Oh, mad. Yeah, that too. I guess constantly chipping away at his own franchise. Yeah. I think it's destabil yeah, bad. No, mad. Oh, mad. Yeah, that too. I guess constantly chipping away at his own franchise. Yeah. I think it's destabilizing his own franchise. Right. Okay, sure.
Starting point is 01:17:30 To which I say yes. Yeah, probably. Yeah. I guess it's probably not as apparent because there's probably more fans of these than when there were the prequels. Yes. And maybe these will, you know, people will turn around and use to come and go, this is brilliant.
Starting point is 01:17:42 What an amazing masterstroke. But it just seems really, as I said in my review, it seems a really complicated way to just go aliens. Yeah. It's aliens. Yeah. On Twin Peaks, I will give it a go, but I'm not going to watch the original series.
Starting point is 01:17:58 I'll watch some recap and then I'll watch it. Yeah, good. I can't commit to all that. There's too much good TV as it is, Mason. There's too many average superhero shows and good TV on at the moment. Am I right? You're loving Fargo, right? I am, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:18:09 I still haven't got to American Gods. I've still got the cringe. I'm still one in. I've got to go back. Yeah, we should do it. Yeah, absolutely. This is from Charlie Newman. Did you know Tartakovsky's Popeye movie was cancelled for the Emoji movie?
Starting point is 01:18:23 I was vaguely aware of that. I did not know that isn't that something so he did dexter's laboratory samurai jack that really awesome season of the clone wars but it's hand-drawn no i didn't know that at all i had to clear the slate for the emoji movie i don't give a pop eye but people have seen poop eye which is i assume the name of the poop emoji they can put a pun in there, if they can really add insult to injury, it'd be like, do a Popeye poop eye joke. I can see why Sony went with the emoji movie
Starting point is 01:18:51 because Popeye is an old brand. That's exactly right, yeah. And the last movie wasn't very good. It was from the 80s. It had Robin Williams or whatever. I can see why they did it, but with that guy on the back of it, it might have been like with the Peanuts movie
Starting point is 01:19:04 where it was good and it recaptured what made that character great, but also updated it. Yeah. Right. That being said, I turned on, I turned off the Peanuts movie cause I'm like,
Starting point is 01:19:11 fuck all these sad kids. I don't like them. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Uh, but no, that,
Starting point is 01:19:18 I guess, yeah, no, it sounds like something would have, that would have been good. Oh, here's a question. It's not a question.
Starting point is 01:19:23 It's a thing. It's a statement. This has been brought to our attention. Rod Sklodowski was on TeePublic, where we have our T-shirts. He was looking for the Weekly Planet logo T-shirts. Right. Which were temporarily off the site. Yes.
Starting point is 01:19:34 For logistical purposes. But by the time you listen to this, they should be back. So if you guys want a T-shirt, TeePublic.com. Just search for Weekly Planet. That's right. We'll be on there. And it's linked below also. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Nice. Great. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So, Ron, thanks for pointing that out thanks ron we i didn't i'm not across that at all if i if i want to i can hit this now now gmail has auto replies so if i want if i want i can just click i will look into this and get back to you do it so then when he listens to this he'll get the email do it i can't do it do it no i'm not gonna do it i don't like these can actually i kind of love these canned responses do it do it! I can't do it. Do it! No, I'm not going to do it. I don't like these canned... Actually, I kind of love these canned responses. Do it.
Starting point is 01:20:06 Do it. Hit a weird one. Okay. Do it now. No, I'm not going to do it. Do it! No, I will not. I'm going to go on and do it.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Do it then. Fine. We both have access to this email. Yeah, you do. All right. You're going to do it live on the podcast. You better bloody believe it. Wow, this is deceptive.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Ah, shit a brick. I've got to find it. That's right. Who's it from? Rob. Ron Sklodowski. Ron. You are in Ah, shit, a brick. I've got to find it. That's right. Who's it from? Rob. Ron Sklodowski. Ron, you are in for a treat, my friend. That's assuming he even listens this far.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Yeah, that's a really good point. Yeah. Oftentimes we'll respond to somebody and be like, hey, this person said this. And I'm like, maybe they don't even listen to the end of this. But all their episodes sort of trail off a bit. That's true. These are my options. I will look into it and get back to you. let me look into it or sure thing sure thing yeah sure
Starting point is 01:20:50 thing done nice that's gonna look real rude if he never ever hears this yeah yeah all right uh one more one more tweet this from uh tomas can't say your last name. Apologies. Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. The Witcher TV series is coming to Netflix. You guys excited or nah? I've never played the Witcher series. Me neither, but I nearly borrowed it from my friend the other day. Then I forgot. Nice.
Starting point is 01:21:15 The Witcher 3, which is apparently phenomenal. Yeah, that's the best one, I think. Yeah, so I'm up for this. It's based on a wildly popular series of novels, probably. From like Scandinavia or some shit. Scandinavia, Finland. I don't know if that's where it's from. It almost certainly isn't.
Starting point is 01:21:27 But no, I think there's absolutely room for kind of a fantasy-esque television show. And this world seemed absolutely ripe for it. Is there more magic than Game of Thrones? If there is, I'm in. What if there's not? Then I'm out. What if there isn't?
Starting point is 01:21:42 I'm also out. Okay. I tried to trip you up there was a duck season rabbit season situation that's right you didn't get me i did not uh that is the show for this week yes it is next week pirates five oh is it when it gets good again mason you know what i've been away from the pirates franchise for a couple of movies maybe i'll enjoy this one i would i wonder if you shotgunned all those pirates movies before you saw this one you watched all four and then went into this whether
Starting point is 01:22:10 you could even stand to sit in that theater and watch this yeah right i bet you couldn't there's no way it's not just more of the same how are they gonna well maybe it's a good version of more because it can be it can be good more of the same yeah Look, if it's better than... I don't care if it's bad. What do I care? I have no stake in this. Even if it's good, I hope they stop making them. So that's where I'm at.
Starting point is 01:22:32 Yep. Yeah. I don't know. All right. Where can people find us? Oh, you can find us on Weekly Planet Pod on Facebook and Twitter and Gmail and Bandcamp. What was our last movie commentary? Doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:22:46 It was pretty good. Oh, it was Guardians of the Galaxy. Guardians, yeah. Which is why I forgot because it was an enjoyable one. Absolutely. Let's see. I'm at Wikipedia Brown on Twitter. I'm at MrSundayMovies.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Let's see. If you want to support the show, you can go to patreon.com slash MrSundayMovies. You can also go to our Amazon. I should point out with that Patreon, I'm going to try, and more often than not,
Starting point is 01:23:02 I should be able to do this, get the Caravan of Garbage up there early. Early, nice. Very nice. That's the plan. So if you are there, good work.
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Starting point is 01:23:49 on a review maybe. That's a review, yeah. Yeah, it's real nice. Absolutely. It feels good, man. It feels good to be alive, Mason. It does, doesn't it? Sometimes, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:59 All the time. You're right. It does all the time. That's what Sinatra said. He said, you've got to love living, baby. Dines a pain in the ass. That's what he said. Is said that's what he said yeah i don't know when he said that i hope he didn't say it as he was dying i don't know yeah i have no information on that uh yeah but thank you for listening uh if you do have some thoughts on pirates tweet them in
Starting point is 01:24:19 at hashtag we can plan a pod and we'll uh we'll try and read out a few next week. Yeah. And also on the Gmail, maybe Mason will send you a canned response. Can you start doing canned responses? All right, guys. Tell you what. How about this? When you send an email, weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com, you know how sometimes they're like,
Starting point is 01:24:37 I'll take the answer off the air. Let me know if you want a canned response and I'll send you a canned response because I've got to be honest with myself. Yeah, sure. You know what I mean? I should point this out to you. When you hit the canned response, it then goes to send canned response. Cause I'm not, I gotta be honest with myself. Yeah, sure. You know what I mean? I should point this out to you when you hit the canned response and then goes to send mail and then you have to press send. Okay.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Right. So it's not just an instant thing. Okay, cool. Which is kind of annoying. I want it to be instant. I want it to be like thoughtless and instant. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Right. Yeah. Well, that's how, that's how I consider the people who listen to this show. Thoughtless and instant. Look, maybe next time.
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