The Weekly Planet - 19 Eisenberg/Luthor & History Of Robocop
Episode Date: February 3, 2014This week we talk Jesse Eisenberg being cast as Lex Luthor, Quicksilver and Sentinals from X-Men Days Of Future Past, Ninja Turtles plus a look at the best of worst from the Robocop franchise. Hosted ...on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome everyone to another episode of The Weekly Planet, official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com
My name is James, junior editor at that website I said
Mr. Sunday is also a name that I go by
With me is Nick Mason, Mr. Nick Mason
That's the name I go by
How are you going?
I'm excellent, thank you sir
Sure, that's great
Do you have any personal news
before we get on
with this podcast?
It's been a big week
for movie news.
Ah, oh,
I went to see
the James Bond exhibition.
Yes, you did.
I did, James Bond.
Even though you promised
we'd go together,
you still went
without me.
Yeah, I betrayed you,
I think.
And again, once again,
this is your forum
for announcing
various betrayals
that have happened
in your personal life.
That's what you do
evidently in this.
It's all a bit of subterfuge, so you can...
But you did text me throughout the day, though.
With pictures of the delightful...
You know what?
It's supposed to represent the 23 Bond films that have been released.
The 23 official ones.
There's a lot of stuff from Die Another Day,
which is the last Pierce Brosnan Bond film,
and it's definitely the worst Bond film
and potentially
the worst film
of all time.
Yeah, it's not good
in any way.
Do you reckon
it's the worst Bond film?
Yeah.
It probably is.
Yes.
I mean, I haven't seen
them all but...
You've seen that one.
I've seen that one.
You can extrapolate
based on the paragliding
the one where
Bond is trying to escape
a giant laser beam
fired from space
using a paraglider that he's fashioned himself.
Yeah, from a jet car.
From a jet drag racer, and it's all CGI.
Yeah, that's pretty great. Yeah, you're right.
Anyway, it's actually a really good exhibition.
Golden Gun.
See, I took photos.
You only sent me the Die Another Day photos.
I sent you the robot suit from Die Another Day,
the electrical robot suit.
The diamonds from Diamond Face?
The diamonds that end up in Diamond Face's face.
Hence getting him the moniker Diamond Face.
Why did they create that character and give him any other name than Diamond Face?
I don't know.
Everybody in the world calls him Diamond Face.
Yeah.
That's not just us.
No, it's not just us.
Okay.
And then, let's see.
There's the golden gun.
There's the space laser guns from Moonraker.
Oh, that's good.
Pretty great.
Yeah.
There's the mobile phone that he uses to control his BMW.
Look at that quality.
Look at that tech.
That touchscreen mobile phone
that he uses.
Amazing.
Amazing.
Pretty great.
And then I got to the end
and I was going to send you
some...
They were playing
Die Another Day on a screen
because apparently that...
Just Die Another Day.
In the last...
Just clips from it.
In the last room.
Yeah.
And I was going to send you
some pictures of that because I know you love it
so much. I do, so much. But then the security
guard bailed me up and said, hey, stop taking photos.
And I said, do you mean stop taking photos
of that movie that I can see anywhere?
Like on the internet
or on television or anything like that.
The most non-exclusive. I didn't say that.
The most non-exclusive part of the film.
Because you can't reason with the security guard.
He'll just bash you. Yeah, you're right. But you't say that. You can't reason with the security guard. He'll just bash you.
You're right.
Anyway, if you're in Melbourne, go
see that because it's actually really great. If you're a fan of Bond
or if you're kind of a non-fan of Bond and you just like
making snarky comments about it.
That's probably more us.
We're fans of Bond, aren't we? I love Bond.
The problem with Die Another Day is, aside from it's really mad,
it came out the same year, I think,
as the Bond identity. So it's like... That is a cypher, but it's really bad. Yes. It came out the same year, I think, as The Bourne Identity.
Oh.
So it's like, you know...
That is a stark contrast.
That sure is.
And, you know, that kind of then Bourne Identity fashioned what would become whatever Bond is now.
Yes.
People who pull their teeth out.
Yeah.
With acid face.
Oh, there was...
Yeah, that was there.
That costume as well.
Raul Silva.
Yeah, Raul Silva's costume.
Pretty great. That's your favourite Bond film, isn't it? It's not. It's my least favourite. Oh, and here's the, that was there. That costume as well. Raul Silva. Yeah, Raul Silva's costume. Pretty great.
That's your favourite Bond film, isn't it?
It's not.
It's my least favourite.
Oh, and here's the Madonna costume from Die Another Day.
Very good.
Madonna's fencing outfit.
Wow.
Pretty great.
I wish everyone could see these.
But you can't see that movie anymore.
Maybe if you follow Mason on Twitter at Wikipedia Brown, he'll put those things up.
No.
Oh, alright, fine.
I've got personal news.
Oh, really?
I killed a giant spider
this morning.
I woke up and there was
a giant spider in my room.
Literally nobody's
interested in that.
Well...
Barely anybody was
interested in my James Bond
tour, but...
Alright.
Do what you want.
That's my personal news.
Great.
Should we get to actual news?
I've got more spider-related.
I could stretch that
story out a bit.
Please do. You killed it. You didn't put it stretch that story out a bit. Oh, please do.
You killed it. You didn't put it outside. You're a monster.
Well, it was giant and I sprayed it with a can and it didn't move.
So I'm like, no, I have to squash this giant spider.
You were afraid it was going to retaliate later, no?
Yeah, exactly. It could have wielded a knife. It was enormous.
Okay. X-Men. Oh, no, before I get to that.
Shia LaBeouf news.
Oh! You know what? We did say that we've had the moratorium, but you know what?
It just keeps on rolling.
I know! Look, I want to touch on this briefly.
Two people on Twitter reached out to us...
Oh, should we back up for people who don't know who this is?
Oh, good idea. Yeah, yeah.
Shia LaBeouf stole a comic book storyline to create his short film.
Yes.
And then an apology to the creator of that film, of that comic book storyline yes to create his short film yes and then an apology apology to the creator
of that film
of that comic book
his apology ripped off
other people's works
yes
and then he did more apologies
all of which were ripped off
then he claimed that
it was all part of
some sort of
art installation
that he created
of course yes
and then
I don't know
what's he doing now
and well
now basically
now he claimed that
he was going to have
produce some sort of
art project where people could go into a room and see him or a man who looks like
him with a bag over his head yeah but it looks physically a bit like him yeah and then there
was some objects in the room and you could do whatever you want with the objects like you could
slap him with a yeah big fish or something whatever whatever it was and And so people are like, oh, he's making repentance somehow in an awful way.
But it turns out, doesn't it?
Courtesy of Aaron Mitton.
Did I say that wrong?
Probably.
Probably.
Sorry, Aaron.
That it's possibly from an episode of House or, courtesy of David, it's a Marina Abramovich
piece of a similar thing where she lined up a whole lot of items and people were allowed
to do what she wanted to do.
That is very, that looks exactly like.
That's it.
That is.
And that scenario turned very, very ugly very quickly as well.
Yeah.
I read the article he sent and it was, it started off people were like, oh, it's a bit of fun or whatever.
And then people just turned on her.
Just pulled a gun.
Pulled a gun.
Yeah.
Cutting her clothes and poking her with rose thorns and stuff.
So yeah.
But Mason.
Yes.
People in glass houses
Should not throw stones
And I'll tell you why
Oh
You remember that last week
We spoke about Indiana Jones
And how he doesn't
He's not helpful
Yes
In his movies
He's just like along for the ride
But most
Except for Temple of Doom
Things would have played out
Exactly the same
If not better
Are we even in that assumption?
Well, no, we are correct in that assumption.
Good.
But apparently, I put that up on Comic Book Movie, first of all, people do not like if
you make fun of Indiana Jones.
A lot of death threats.
Yep.
A lot of people calling us dickheads.
Fantastic.
That's fine.
That's part of the internet.
Yeah.
That's fine.
But apparently, we were accused of taking it from an episode of The Big Bang Theory,
where that same theory is... I've literally never seen The Big Bang Theory. I've from an episode of The Big Bang Theory, where that same theory is...
I've literally never seen The Big Bang Theory.
I've seen five minutes of The Big Bang Theory.
First of all, all of you who did that, take off your fedoras and cover your face in shame with them.
Because if you were watching that, you can all go to hell.
I haven't seen that, but it is reasonable that we've come to the same conclusion.
Sure, absolutely.
And apparently, though, they also took it from David Wong from Cracked. Oh, from Cracked, okay.
Yeah, he's a Cracked writer.
His real name's Jason Pargin, and he's also on the Cracked podcast quite a bit,
which is a good podcast.
Everyone should listen to that.
They took it from his book.
This book is filled with spiders.
Seriously, dude, don't touch it.
Should we buy that book?
Yeah, why not?
Let's buy it from Amazon.com.
As penance.
Penance for stealing.
But to be fair, you did say at the start of that thing
that this has probably floated on the internet before.
Did I ever?
Yeah.
But hey, that being said,
maybe we're the Shia LaBeouf this week, Mason.
Maybe we're the Shia LaBeouf.
Maybe all of us are the Shia LaBeouf.
Wow.
So there you go.
I don't watch the Big Bang Theory.
I've watched about 10, 15 minutes of it,
but I reckon there doesn't...
Probably a month doesn't go by when someone goes to me,
do you watch The Big Bang Theory?
And I say no,
because it's easier than explaining
why it's probably the worst show ever made.
So I say no,
and they go,
you should watch it.
You'd love it.
And I go,
I'll check it out.
It's got lots of references to things that you like.
I'd say... Flash t-shirts. Flash t-shirts. Green Lantern t-shirts. Will Wheaton. It's got lots of references to things that you like.
Flash t-shirts.
Flash t-shirts.
Green Lantern t-shirts.
Will Wheaton.
Will Wheaton's in it sometimes.
So there you go.
If you want to watch a good show that references comics and movies and pop culture, Community is the show to watch.
Watch Community.
Jesus.
Yeah.
Big bang theory.
Anyway, on to more Charlotte. Two and a half men, though.
Boy, back on point.
What a show.
Is that still on?
I have no idea.
Ashton Kutcher is the guy now.
Fantastic.
Yeah.
Because Charlie Sheen does another show for something else.
I don't know what.
But hey, and he got fired for drugs and being a dickhead or whatever.
Right.
That's time he tried to shoot his girlfriend.
That's right, exactly.
All those things.
Did you see all the X-Men Days of Future Past Empire Magazine covers?
I did.
Did you see some of them?
No, I saw all of them.
Did you see all of them?
I think so.
What did you think of them in general?
There's two I want to talk about in particular, but in general, what's your vibe?
What's your vibe, Mason?
Like my laid-back vibe?
Yeah.
They look pretty good.
I would say the standouts are...
I would imagine a lot of people are against the future Sentinel design.
Yes, I do want to talk about that.
Yep.
But I feel that makes sense.
Yes.
Because...
He's basically...
It looks like he's made up of a series of dominoes or something like that.
Yeah, or nanotechnology or something like that.
I feel that...
Like Die Another Day.
Yeah, exactly.
That, obviously, the first design is going to be based on 1960s technology.
Yes.
And it is going to look more sort of Technicolor and comic book-y in that way.
But they've got to realise that these guys are facing the X-Men.
They've got a lot of powers and they've got a lot of...
That's not going to pose a lot of a challenge.
No, you can't just have a solid kind of a robot that can stomp around because a lot of things you know, that's not going to pose a lot of a challenge. No, you can't just have a solid kind of a robot
that can stomp around, because
a lot of things can happen to that.
The artificial intelligence, whatever in the film,
is going to take over this
Sentinel production, whether it's Master Mold
or whoever. He's going to need to upgrade
that tech to effectively
fight the X-Men and defeat them.
Why not nanotechnology? I think it looks great.
We haven't seen it in motion.
Actually, that's what I said.
I was okay with it.
People asked me, like, what do you think?
I'm like, it's fine.
I mean, and there's probably a whole lot of stuff in between that we might see.
But, you know, it works enough.
And we haven't seen it in motion, like you said.
So, there you go.
But anyway, I think it looks great.
Cool.
In contrast, I am liking the look of Quicksilver less and less.
Wow, really?
So, you initially really loved it?
I didn't love it at all. I thought it looked dumb, but who cares because it's Quicksilver less and less. Wow, really? So you initially really loved it? I didn't love it at all.
I thought it looked dumb, but who cares because it's Quicksilver.
It's a Wolverine film.
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
You're right.
Wolverine, McKellen, Patrick Stewart.
Until they Professor X him out of the pot.
As they often do.
Yeah.
As they always do.
Yeah, what's going on with that Quicksilver outfit?
He's got goggles now.
I know.
I mean, I know it's the 70s,
so you've got to kind of have a retro kind of outfit.
But it's just...
It's not good in any way.
Not at all.
But I think people are really hung up
on this character of Quicksilver
that nobody seemed to care about
before Marvel were interested.
And then also X-Men.
It's not a major character.
It doesn't really matter,
but it's a pretty dumb look, isn't it, realistically?
It really is, yeah.
He doesn't even look streamlined.
There's a lot of pockets on that jacket.
Would a guy need to wear glasses if he can go super fast?
I know the Flash doesn't wear glasses, because I'm assuming the Flash has kind of like...
He's got a heat shield.
Yeah, okay, there you go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because you'd have some kind of, I don't know, tough skin or whatever, so if things hit you,
you wouldn't explode.
Because if you went a certain speed, your skin would just peel off.
Well, exactly, yeah.
I'd imagine.
Yeah, exactly.
So his skin would be tough enough that he probably wouldn't need goggles, right?
Because otherwise, if it wasn't, he'd just turn inside out like a sausage.
Okay, well, A, he doesn't have skin on his eyes.
No, but obviously...
He can close his eyes, I guess.
But it's like Superman being hit with a bullet in the eye and Superman returns.
You would think that the mutation that created the super speed
would also create some sort of protection against moving at that super speed.
Exactly, and it's like having super strength but not invulnerability. created the super speed will also create some sort of protection against moving at that super speed. Exactly.
And it's like having super strength but not invulnerability.
So if you hit somebody super hard, your hand wouldn't just bust into a thousand pieces.
Yeah, exactly.
Because you'd need the invulnerability to go at super strength.
Yeah.
God, comics are... It's crazy, aren't they?
It's crazy.
It's one of the things that happen in comics.
Anyway, the goggles look dumb.
Hopefully he doesn't wear them at all.
I hope he wears them all the time.
I hope he just wears them on top of his head, Stan Park style. People are saying that this has got to,
like, what's Bryan Singer's reluctance
to include comic book style suits?
Because X-Men First Class class leaned towards that.
The Wolverine ended with that deleted scene,
which is not obviously in the movie,
where he's got that comic book style suit.
Do you think he's going to include
the comic book style suits?
Or do you think we're just not going to see them?
And if we're not, what's his problem, man?
Yeah, yeah. What's his hang-up? we're not, what's his problem, man? Yeah, yeah.
What's his hang-up?
What's his 1970s hang-up, man?
I think that
we're going to see
a few little bits
and a few little
colourful bits and pieces.
I think
in this kind of,
in this X-Men universe,
the colourful costumes
all belong in the past.
Yeah.
Like the 60s and 70s
were the time
for kind of garish
outfits and what have you.
In the modern day, they're going to look ridiculous The future
Is for serious business
It's not for silly costumes
You're right, I mean if they're fighting an apocalyptic wasteland
They're not going to wear a bright coloured costume
Are they?
Because you'll get killed by that domino man that's stomping about
Yes, exactly
It's also been confirmed that the apocalypse follow up the apocalypse follow-up that Bryan Singer's doing
in 2016.
Yes.
That looks like it's moving forward with, unless this movie completely bombs, which
I don't think it will.
Do you know it's the second most expensive movie of all time?
Really?
Behind Avatar.
Yeah.
Ooh.
A lot riding on this.
Yeah.
I think they've probably gone a bit too big too soon.
Do you have a figure there, or is it?
No.
Oh, I think it's about $200 million.
Okay.
That's roughly, yeah.
That's a lot of money.
USD.
Oh, yeah.
So basically, in Apocalypse, there was that rumor going around that there was a scene
at the end of Days of Future Past where Apocalypse kind of crash lands into Earth and he's an
alien and he takes over Magneto for some reason.
I can see your face.
You look angry.
Yeah.
It's not a real thing.
I'm appalled.
It's not a real thing.
Brian Singer's debunked that.
Who even invented that? First of all, why are we
talking about the post-credits sequence in a film
that isn't out yet? First of all,
second of all, that's ridiculous.
Who invented the idea that he was an alien that
came down from space? Someone on the internet.
Oh yeah. I couldn't, I could probably track
them down. Please, please do it.
Then we go into their house, right? Yeah.
Yeah, gotta beat them up. Good. And basically he was, he wants to do it like Apocalypse is an ancient mutant and explore the concept
of what would people think of mutants before there's science.
Right.
And also, but more than that, what would mutants think of themselves?
Do they think they're gods or demons or angels or whatever?
So he wants to explore that side of it.
So assuming that that means that Apocalypse will be an ancient mutant.
I would hope so.
That is the whole deal
with him, yes.
And he's got goggles.
He's got so many goggles.
Just goggles upon goggles.
Do you want a fun fact
about Superman Returns?
Yes.
Bryan Singer's come back
and said...
Oh wait, Superman Returns.
That's the worst one.
Alright, fine.
Anyway, go ahead.
Bryan Singer,
who directed Superman Returns,
he needs a win
in this X-Men Apocalypse.
I'm not X-Men Apocalypse.
X-Men Days of Future Past, by the way. Jack the Giant Slayer, Valky who directed Superman Returns he needs a win in this X-Men apocalypse I'm not X-Men X-Men Days of Future Past
by the way
Jack the Giant Slayer
Valkyrie
Superman Returns
were his last movies
before the X-Men movies
and they've handed him
this
the second most expensive
film of all time
yeah
it's amazing how people
quickly people turned on him
though when he came back
to X-Men
because they're like
even though they'll
people liked those
X-Men 1 and 2
people very quickly
turned on us though
didn't they
a lot of death threats
a lot of death by bullwhip we did didn't they? A lot of death threats.
A lot of death by bullwhip. We did make fun of it.
A lot of death by replica bullwhip.
Anyway.
What was it?
Yeah, so Superman Returns, he said if he had to do it again,
he's still not 100% sure why people don't like it,
but I could see your quizzical face.
I think you know why.
Yeah.
I didn't hate it.
I think I've said that before.
It's fine.
He said he would have done it as a reboot,
which is all well and good in hindsight.
But in the sequel, which kind of fizzled out, he said he didn't get kicked off and just
kind of fizzled out.
Okay.
That he would have featured Darkseid as the villain.
Well, coulda, woulda, shoulda.
He can say that now.
Like, it's all sour grapes now.
Hey, guys, I would have put in the best villain of all time.
It's a shame none of you liked it.
It's a shame none of you supported me.
Because I would have been great.
Also, he said he didn't cast Henry Cavill
because he's not enough like Christopher Reeves,
which is what he ended up going for.
Brandon Ralph, who's now homeless, I believe.
We miss him.
We do.
He seemed like a good guy.
Neil Marshall.
You're familiar with that director.
He did The Descent.
Oh, yeah.
Okay. He did Centurion. Didn't say it. Yes, we did. Neil Marshall you're familiar with that director he did The Descent oh yeah okay
he did Centurion
didn't say it
yes we did
it's the one where
Michael Fassbender's a centurion
and he's in England
or something
I didn't say it
I saw it
wow
why haven't you seen it
if I've seen it
it's a really good point
because it's probably terrible
is it probably terrible
it's alright
there we go
The Descent's great though
yeah
and I think he did
he's done some Game of Thrones episodes
I think he did Blackwater,
which is a big Game of Thrones episode.
But you don't watch Game of Thrones, do you?
Three episodes in the first season.
No spoilers, please.
Don't tweet me spoilers.
Tweet of spoilers.
At Wikipedia's Brown.
Good cover.
Anyway, he's going to direct the Constantine pilot.
Okay.
Apparently, also, they're going to make
Constantine blonde and British.
Just get Sting, guys.
Just get Sting. You. Just get Sting.
You gotta get Sting.
Now, Sting's bald now.
Is he?
Yes.
Give him a wig.
Give him a wig.
Get Sting, put him in a wig.
Stig in a wig.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, that's enough Constantine news for this week, though, Mason.
Don't have anything else.
Well, that's for later, then.
That's serendipity, isn't it?
Yes, it is.
The movie Serendipity with John Cusack.
Uh, the Russo brothers.
They're directing, uh directing Captain America 2,
The Winter Soldier 2.
They're apparently back.
Marvel are very happy with the direction of the film, apparently.
I mean, nobody's seen it yet, so who knows?
But that bodes well for the film, I think.
Yeah.
Because, you know, even when World War Z was happening, for example,
you could tell because of all the fighting and stuff.
The kerfuffles.
The kerfuffs.
That the director was not going to be back for that movie.
Right.
Even though it turned out okay in the end.
But no, that's good news, right?
Yeah.
Or not.
I mean, we haven't seen it.
No.
Great news, though.
Pretty good.
Also, Marvel Senior Vice President of Production and Development, Craig Kyle, and one of the
writers of Thor The Dark World, who's now my input here by accident, is penning Thor
3.
Okay.
Which is rumoured...
Yes....to be Ragnarok. Oh. The Ragnarok storyline, which penning Thor 3. Okay. Which is rumoured to be Ragnarok.
Oh.
The Ragnarok storyline, which I have not read.
These ones are all so far out in the future.
Phase 3, so it could be...
Yeah, well, that's right.
Could be anything.
Ragnarok's all about the gods and the gods, yeah.
It's the storyline where Thor has turned into a frog.
And he joins the Pet Avengers.
Or maybe it was a frog that was turned into a god.
It doesn't matter.
Anyway, the point is there was a Pet Avengers.
I don't think a frog should be a god and wield power.
I think that's not going to end well.
You're a fascist.
You're a fascist.
Has he still got his frog brain?
You know, I can't really remember.
Yeah.
I have a frog brain, so...
Memory's not great.
The Ragnarok story, are you familiar with it, though?
Not really.
It's basically...
I read up on it.
I've probably read it after this, I guess.
That there are gods of the gods, of the Asgardians.
And every, you know, so many millennia,
there's a giant war raged on Asgard,
which wipes out all of them,
and then they all get put back,
but their memories are wiped,
and then it starts again.
So I guess it's like Zion and the Matrix thing,
which was a Matrix plot point, probably, in that trilogy.
They wipe out Zion and it comes back.
Best not to dwell on it.
And that's how the gods fuel themselves and sustain there.
Okay.
And Thor finds out and he's like,
Not on my watch.
He doesn't wear a watch.
Nah.
Not on my hat with feathers on it.
My winged hat.
No, sir.
No way.
Gal Gadot news.
Yep.
Now, I know every week you want to know, how do you pronounce Gal Gadot?
We got an email from Ezra Swartz.
He speaks Hebrew as his second language.
And he's got what he claims, and
I think he's right, to be the correct pronunciation.
The scoop on that.
It's pronounced G-O-L-L, or is that G-O-L-L?
G-O-L-L?
Oh, this isn't helping at all.
Gadote.
G-O-D-O-T-E.
Oh.
Because the A's are pronounced as in short O's.
So it's like G-O-L-L, Gadote.
We could have solved this many weeks ago
if we weren't so ignorant.
Why should we though?
Also, my brain is geared to saying Gal Gadot
so I think I'm going to just keep doing it.
But good for him though.
Thank you Ezra Swartz for reaching out to us.
Absolutely.
Also, remember last week how we said
let's do some commentary tracks
only if four people contacted us only if four people contacted us.
Uh-huh.
Exactly four people contacted us.
That's not really not enough.
That's, isn't it?
No.
It might have been five.
I think it might.
Oh, then that's enough.
One of them was for us to do an Amazing Spider-Man commentary track, but without you seeing it,
so we watch it together for the first time.
Oh, okay.
We'll do that in maybe, in close to the release of the Amazing Spider-Man 2.
That's a really good idea.
Are you in?
Yeah, sure, why not?
All right.
And the other one was Little Women.
They want us to watch Little Women and contact.
Okay.
I've never seen Little Women, so.
This is going to be a treat.
Oh, yeah.
Now, they.
Winona Ryder.
They were in an accident, right?
And then they shrink down?
Yeah, that's the one.
There's a ray.
There's a ray device.
That's exactly it.
Harold Ramis is involved.
Harold Ramis is in it, yes. That's it. Okay. So, yeah, there you. There's a ray. There's a ray device. That's exactly it. Harold Ramis is involved. Harold Ramis is in it, yes.
That's it.
Okay.
So yeah, there you go.
The Turtles.
Hang on, what is the Gal Gadot news?
That's it.
Oh, okay, good.
I thought you'd be interested.
Yeah, no, it's very interesting.
Yeah.
I'll write it down later.
No, you won't.
I won't.
Turtles.
Gal Gadot forever.
Ninja Turtles news.
Yep.
We're finally seeing the Ninja Turtles, what they're going to look like.
In promotional posters that people took pictures of.
So that is the final.
This is the final draft.
This is locked in forever.
What do you think?
Not that dumb.
No, I don't think so.
I think people are on board with it in general.
People are upset about the lips, I think.
Okay, right.
Or the noses.
Turtles don't have lips.
The beaks.
They don't have beaks.
Yeah.
Weren't they upset that they were going to have beaks?
Yep, I think so.
Some people are saying they're too muscular.
Too jacked.
I say Ninja Turtle can never be too muscular.
You know?
You upset that.
Yeah.
I think there is a bit too much going on in some of those costumes.
Like, Donatello's wearing two pairs of glasses.
Oh, he's got goggles as well?
Yeah, goggles.
Raphael's got a pair of sunglasses on his head, I think.
Surely Michelangelo should have sunglasses on his head.
He doesn't, but he...
Fluorescent sunglasses.
Yes, he should.
But he has...
Michelangelo does have a hoodie tied around his waist.
Hmm.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's okay.
For partying, right?
For partying.
A party hoodie.
Party hoodie.
Okay, good.
Yeah, great.
Shredder.
There's images of Shredder released.
Did you see those as well?
No, I didn't.
It's basically a concept art of Shredder, or a picture of Shredder.
It's hard to tell.
It's very blurry.
But somebody contacted
an inside source,
contacted Nailbiter111, I believe.
Oh.
The inside man.
That's it.
Friend of the show.
Friend of the show, Nailbiter.
He's homeless with Brandon Routh right now.
Yes, he is.
Leakativity scoops.
Shouldn't leak the scoops, man.
Basically, are you familiar
with the U-troms from the comics?
Yeah.
They're like the Krangs.
The Krangs, yeah.
If you zoom in on this particular picture of Shredder, it looks like there's something in his abdomen.
This is what the guy said to you.
Because the modern day cartoon incarnation, Shredder is an U-trom, right?
And some of the comics, yes.
Okay, interesting.
So it means he could be some kind of Krang-Shredder combination, which I would say is unlikely.
Because Krang's only a cartoon thing, isn't he? Maybe it's Shredder wearing kind of Krang-Shredder combination, which I would say is unlikely. Mm-hmm.
Because Krang's only a cartoon thing, isn't he? Maybe it's Shredder wearing a Krang t-shirt.
It's possible.
Like he was a fan of the cartoon show.
Yeah, yeah.
And now he's bought a Krang t-shirt.
Or one of those novelty belt buckles that's got a Krang in it, you know?
Looks like you've got Krang in you.
You made a lot of good points here today, Mason.
Yeah. Factually correct. Morally correct. looks like you got Krang in you you made a lot of good points here today Mason yeah so
factually correct
morally correct
do you
what do you
do you
what do you like
the Utrons
yes
I didn't watch
the whole much
of the 2003 series
yeah
but what I've seen
of it
it looks better
than the one
we watched
when we were kids
yeah
there's a bit in it
as well
it's a bit more
violent
Leonardo like
decapitate
Shredder
not knowing that he's not really Shred bit in it as well, it's a bit more violent. Leonardo, like, decapitates Shredder, not knowing that he's
not really Shredder. Right, uh-huh.
And it's like, Jesus, that's full on.
But that's one of those
TV production tropes where
somebody is only willing to kill
in scenarios where it turned out they
couldn't have done any harm. Do you ever watch that British
series Robin Hood? Did I ever? You did, yeah.
It was always, Robin Hood would
always shoot to, you know, disarm or what
have you. Except, you know,
when he'd show up at the, you know, the
council of the villains or whatever and he'd kill
them all and then it turned out they were all wooden dummies
or whatever. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
No. No, you're right. You had a lot of
opportunities to kill them all prior to this and you
didn't. Why now? And why not
after? Yeah. I've said this
from a while back. I don't think this movie
is going to be as bad
as people think it might be.
Michael Bay's not making it.
The guy who did
he's producing it
the guy who did
Battle LA
which isn't great.
Right.
I switched that one off, yeah.
Yeah, me too.
So, you know
you never know.
But again
as you were saying
about the U-Troms
I would like to
there's a lot
especially from the
1980s comic book series,
there was a lot of super insane stuff that has never made it.
No.
To, like, the Triceratons.
Yeah.
Or, like, Triceratops men.
And all that sort of stuff.
And a lot of, kind of, you know, solar system galaxy-spanning crazy adventures and stuff like that.
Yeah, exactly.
That, you know, we saw in a very kiddy way in the cartoon series.
But I would like to see that live action.
Absolutely.
Why not?
Why not?
Why not?
I demand a lot of my movies for children that I'm going to see.
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Now on to this week's Batman vs Superman news
I know we said either Shia LaBeouf news or Batman vs Superman
But we say a lot of things
We do say a lot of things
So basically, big news this week
I woke up to this and I'm like
Do we have to adjust our scale of big news here?
Or is it actual big news?
It's actual big news
I think Jeremy Irons, first of all's actual big news. Okay, good. All right.
I think Jeremy Irons, first of all, is cast as Alfred.
Okay, that works.
Yeah.
Have you heard this?
Yes.
Yes, I have.
Didn't he go crazy recently?
He may have.
Yeah.
I don't know.
He might have.
I'll look it up later.
Look it up.
I think he's gone crazy.
Use technology.
Okay.
I think he's a good fit.
They were talking... What's the Bond villain's name who was in The Rocketeer?
Timothy Dalton.
Timothy Dalton.
Which I think would have also been a really good choice.
But you can't really go wrong with Jeremy Irons.
Also, I think Timothy Dalton's quite imposing.
He's like 6'4 or something.
Oh, right.
Okay.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I think he's too big a presence to be Alfred.
Fair enough.
I mean, Alfred's supposed to be... He's supposed to be a wizened old guy who's
got a lot of secrets and blah, blah, blah.
Does have a lot of secrets.
No, I think Timothy Dalton's too big a guy.
Okay, fair enough.
Unless I'm wrong.
I mean, they just make him look bigger.
Camera adds like a couple of feet.
That's true.
I also heard Jeremy Irons went crazy a few years ago.
Did you hear that?
Yeah, he did.
Good, good on him.
Alfred, great. Yes. That's the general consensus. He's got the accent. you hear that? Yeah, he did. Good. Good on him. Alfred, great.
Yes.
That's the general consensus.
He's got the accent.
That's all we need.
He does.
That's all we need.
The other thing is, and the internet exploded in a Ben Affleck, Batman-esque way, maybe
even more so when it was announced that he was going to be Lex Luthor.
Who's going to be Lex Luthor?
Jesse Eisenberg.
Did I say that?
No, you didn't say it.
Did I not say it?
Here it is.
So what do you think? Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor. Is't say it did I not say it here it is so what do you think
Jesse Eisenberg
is Lex Luthor
is that justified
in any way
as a casting decision
is the internet
right Mason
or is Jesse Eisenberg
right
you know what
Jews aside
oh god
too much pressure
you know what
I saw a photo
and I saved it
that somebody made
a real quick photoshop
because people are quick
at photoshops on the internet
it's a Superman
Batman photoshop
and it's Michael Cera as is the joker jonah hill as the penguin yeah and jesse
eisenberg as lex luther it's a quick photo it's very quick and it's you know obviously intended
as a joke because the other two look ridiculous but i think jesse eisenberg if you look at this
photo he actually looks quite good with a ball yeah he looks like lex luther with that i mean
a young lex luther yeah, I'm okay with that.
Yeah, I mean,
he's traditionally,
he's a little bit old in Superman.
Is that right?
Aw.
I mean, who's to say?
Who's to say?
Yeah.
Not us.
Yeah.
But he's 30.
Right.
But he looks young.
So maybe there'll be some kind of
Lionel Luthor-Lex Luthor relationship there.
I don't want a Lionel Luthor.
No, I don't want either.
Ridiculous.
Yeah, look,
even though he does look young,
I'm hoping they're going to say
he's a fully grown,
established man
who's built this company
and whatever.
I don't want
Luthor origins movie.
No, absolutely not.
I don't need any of that.
Do you think he's too young?
No.
I think we just said that.
We just,
you just said that,
you're just reading off
your autocue.
I meant to say,
do you think he's too thin?
I mean, that is another...
No, again, that's a Christian Bale scenario.
If you want him to bulk up, he'll bulk up.
He can bulk up, yeah.
Look, I've written here, and I think I said this in my video,
it can be fixed with a shaved head,
get rid of his Bon Jovi locks that he's got now,
bulk him up a little bit, and you put on a well-fitting suit.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, I'm okay with that.
Look, it's not the greatest casting decision.
It could be, though.
He's good in things.
I don't doubt that.
I don't doubt it at all that he is a good actor.
But it's obviously not who you...
Even with Ben Affleck, you go, even if you hate Ben Affleck, you go, you can see it.
Right.
This, it's a little harder to see.
Have you seen Now You See Me?
The magician film?
That's not a good film,
certainly,
but he's quite good in that.
I'm not,
again,
I'm not saying he's a bad actor.
Yeah, yeah.
That's not my problem.
Like,
as far as him being this,
in the,
in the Now You See Me,
he's sort of this,
sort of young,
genius,
magician type.
Yeah.
Which is,
not a,
not a positive necessarily.
But,
you know,
he does have this kind of,
he's got this arrogance
and he's the smartest guy
in the room kind of thing.
And I reckon
if he turns that up to 11,
I reckon there's something there.
Okay.
Yeah.
Sure.
I mean,
I know people make
also the Heath Ledger Joker comparison.
Uh-huh.
Which I guess,
is that really relevant though?
Nah.
I mean, just because? Nah. I mean,
just because you can...
I mean, you can point to
scenarios where this...
I can point to all kinds of things.
Don't tell me what I can't point to.
But you can point to scenarios
where you're like...
No, I'll point to a scenario.
Sorry, I'll let you finish.
That's fine.
Where, you know,
something like this
has worked really well
and something like this
has worked not so well.
I think at this point...
It's a total crap show.
We don't...
Exactly.
We don't know.
So, like, yelling about it either way makes zero difference.
Let's just wait two years, more than two years,
until this comes out, then we'll know.
Let's yell at people.
Let's debate with people on the internet just endlessly.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
So, yeah, there you go.
Hey, everyone.
I think Jesse Eisenberg would make a great Indiana Jones.
How do you like that?
Be real good.
So good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, so there we go.
That's some news for you.
Can you imagine Jesse Eisenberg in a Lex Luthor battle armour?
Yes.
Can you imagine Jesse Eisenberg in a movie where he invents Facebook?
No.
Okay.
He's not a nerd.
People also compare
Michael Cera to
Jesse Eisenberg.
I guess they're
similar-ish, but
they're not really
though, are they?
I mean, they're both
kind of skinny guys
and they've got
curly hair.
Michael Cera's got
spectacular comic timing.
Yeah, well, that's
also true.
Jesse Eisenberg,
Michael, we've never
seen it.
Yeah, that's true.
Oh, no, he's in that
movie where he's got
the bombs strapped to
him.
Oh, now you see me.
That's it.
I don't know.
It's with the guy from Parks and Rec.
Oh, 30 Minutes or Less?
30 Minutes or Less, yeah.
He's okay in that, I guess.
Okay, great.
Anyway, make of that what you will.
I will.
Before we move on, Mason.
Yes?
I just want to say thank you to those who rate us on iTunes.
Cool, absolutely.
We're one step close to achieving our goal of being featured on iTunes.
Your goal.
Your goal. Our goal.
You said you're on board.
But it's not my goal, though, is it?
I don't care.
Do what you want, internet.
So if people can continue to do that or not do that, that would be great.
We really appreciate it.
We do, actually.
I guess this is kind of like the commercial break.
Ugh.
Sold out.
I mean, we did that months ago.
We did.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Okay. Mason. ago. We did. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Mason.
Yes.
Last week,
we talked about how you were going to talk about Robot Cop.
Oh.
And how you know all about Robot Cop.
Did I say those exact words?
I've been in contact with Sony.
Yes.
And they gave us a couple of free tickets to Robot Cop.
So when we review it,
please know
that we're doing it on somebody else's dime.
So if we give it a glowing review
yeah
then
don't believe us
well the thing is
as well
what do
Sony
hey Sony
if you're listening
it's gonna be great
I read the ticket
that I've got
and it's basically
there's all these
it's like
this is free
for whatever
but it also says
there's all these
things like
no IMAX
no certain type of screen
no certain type of day
so I'm like
I don't even know
we'll probably go in
and be like
you can't use this.
So there you go.
You can watch it on a Viewmaster.
We're going to slot the Robocop reel in
and you just click through and you've got five minutes
and then you leave.
We're going to send you a pirated version from Bali
when it's released.
And then, once you watch it,
the FBI's going to kick down your door
and you're going to go to jail for ten years.
Tell me about Robocop, Mason.
What would you like to know about Robocop?
Well, first of all, where did this robot cop come from?
Be more specific.
Okay, who invented Robocop?
What, are we talking in the story?
Are we talking...
You're no help.
Who's steering this ship?
What's going on?
Well, I mean, in terms of the production side of things like robocop is
sort of uh he's inspired by a lot of sort of japanese kind of robot cops yeah he's not the
first robot cop on the on the uh oh my goodness uh do you have you ever seen eight man no sometimes
called eighth man okay it's like uh there was a neo geo game all right you remember the neo geo i
do didn't have one weren't they for rich kids?
Yeah, they were for rich kids.
Were you a rich kid?
No, but that was an arcade.
Anyway, the point is, there's been a lot of Japanese cops killed in the line of duty resurrected
as robots.
And it was like, oh, what's his name?
Space Sheriff Gavan, I think, was another.
I'm going to Google that, because I reckon I'm right.
I've done very little research, but I'm going to look up Space Sheriff.
So what?
Frank Miller wrote the original script,
is that right?
No, he wrote two.
He wrote two and three.
Okay.
We'll get to those.
Yeah, Robocop.
In the original,
he's Alex Murphy.
He's copped on.
You know, actually, before I start,
having done a small amount of research on this,
because I remember all the original properties
and I've seen and read pretty much all of them,
but I figured I'd go back
and just go over them again
just very quickly, like
half an hour ago. And
people are all out there
going like, oh, they've ruined
yet another property. They've ruined
my childhood slash
adulthood slash action
movies are the worst now, blah, blah, blah.
You know what? You know what?
You know what?
Those people, having watched a lot of more recent Robocop properties,
this is a property that was on its last legs.
This thing was dead.
This is a dead horse.
You all should be lucky they're rebooting Robocop because some of this stuff is just the worst.
It's really you guys just put a bloody cork in it.
Shut up.
Yeah, exactly.
That being said, this movie might not be good.
There is a possibility.
But we'll get to that another way.
But again, how bad could it be when compared to the stuff I'm about to talk about?
Space Sheriff Gabban, there he is.
Oh my god, you're right.
He's got a laser sword.
He does.
He looks very Robocop.
Yeah, I know, right?
Incredibly so.
I mean, he's just a guy in Lycra. Yeah. Obviously.
But anyway, Alex Murphy killed in the line of duty.
Yes.
As a result of OCP, who are the privatised runners of the police department in old Detroit.
Yeah.
Not Omnicorp, or is that the new one?
They're Omnicorp now.
Okay, right.
Back in the old ones, they were OCP.
Yeah.
And there's too much crime in Detroit.
Is that just now?
Yeah, just now.
Just now, but also back in this fictional past,
which was the future.
So OCP takes over the police force
in exchange for being able to bulldoze a lot of Detroit
and turn it into Delta City.
That's kind of the through line of the whole film,
that OCP wants to just...
They want to protect the city in a very small way,
but they also just want to just flatten it.
Another 80s land grab action movie.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay, gotcha.
You know it is.
Anyway, so basically they're like, well, we want to build this Robocop project.
Yeah.
And so we're going to...
We need a human brain for it.
So they kind of...
Because they try just a robot.
Well, they have...
And this is one of my favorite parts of Robocop, is the initial law enforcement robot they create is called ED-209, and it's like a giant walking
tank. And there's a scene at the start where they get, it's a board meeting, and they just
get a junior executive to pull a gun on this robot to test its arrest mode, and it just
riddles him with bullets bullets like hundreds and hundreds of
bullets and it's super graphic so many squibs so many squibs just just and at the end they're like
hey somebody call a paramedic because this guy's you know what my first exposure robocop wasn't
the films it was i saw the films later but my first exposure robocop was there was there was
a set of robocop 2 trading cards like tops released the Robocop 2 trading cards. Like, Topps released the Robocop 2 trading cards.
I'm sure I still have some of them somewhere.
Let's give them away on the show.
Oh, no, they're mine forever.
They were Robocop 2 trading cards,
but the first, like, 20 were, like, previously on.
They were, like, a recap of the first Robocop.
Okay, right.
And they were super graphic.
Like, trading cards for children.
I don't have...
The one I wanted to find, I couldn't find on the internet.
I assumed it would be there because it's the best.
Yeah.
It's called...
They all have little names under the...
And it's called Man Without a Hand.
And it's like a shot of him, of Alex Murphy getting his hand blasted off by the bad guys.
And it's like a two-frame.
Murphy looking puzzled, standing up looking puzzled.
Yeah.
And the second frame, his arm just being shot off.
It's ridiculous.
Anyway, here's one that I did find.
This is the scene...
It's not the Melty Man one, is it?
Yeah, it's the Melty Man.
It's the scene in Robocop where a villain's out to kill Robocop to run him down in a car.
Robocop gets out of the way.
Yeah.
This guy crashes his car into a vat of toxic waste and it seeps into the car and it melts him
and he wanders around.
It's horrifying.
It's horrifying.
And that is on a Topps trading card for children.
You would get a sticker bubblegum
and a fun little decal sticker
and you would get a card with a man
whose entire body is melting.
It's amazing, right?
What can I Google
to find that particular photo?
I just Google
Robocop trading card.
Gotcha.
And just Google image search.
Maybe if I turn
safe search off.
Because I remember
we watched that
a few years ago.
I'd seen it
years prior
but I remember
watching that
as a full grown adult
and going
that's still horrifying.
Right.
So there you go.
Kids.
It's for you kids.
All these fingers
are melting.
You see his fingers dripping off the bone. And he gets hit by another Kids. It's for you, kids. All his fingers are melting. You see his fingers dripping off the boat.
And he gets hit by another car.
It's like a plastic shopping bag full of soup.
Just getting hit by a wrecking ball.
It's amazing.
So basically, do they engineer the accident to make him Robocop,
or does he just happen to get gunned down?
Because in the new one, it looks like they engineer the car explosion.
It does, doesn't it?
Well, in the original one, it's sort of...
Murphy sort of goes out of his jurisdiction.
Yeah.
So I think the idea was they engineer a scenario in which cops can have a lot of dangerous situations and probably die.
Okay.
Like, they lower their budgets and et cetera.
In the actual scenario, he's chasing the bad...
There's a car chase with the bad guys.
Yeah.
And they're like, oh, he's out of your jurisdiction.
And he's like, I'm going to follow him anyway.
Because I'm a cop. I'm a cop on the edge
with a sense of duty. I don't know, the first
one's incredible.
I think we've mentioned, we've
had Robocop talk before, but as a satire
of like, corporatisation
and just over the top.
Amazing. It doesn't get more 80s
and awesome than Robocop. Boy, it does not.
No, that's right, yeah.
Do you think it's better than the first Terminator film, if I was to draw such a comparison?
Oh, yeah, actually I would.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, they're obviously different things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Whatever.
I mean, do you think that the first Terminator was supposed to be anything other than, like,
a fairly generic, straight-to-video kind of action film.
Like, you see a lot of those kind of future cop and maniac cop and all that sort of, those
really generic actioners, and you go, was the Terminator really all that different in
the first one?
Look, I think it was definitely bolstered by the fact that, I mean, Arnold Schwarzenegger
was a reasonably big star then, but he became a bigger star, and hence the Terminator became
a bigger movie than maybe what it was intended to be initially.
I mean, I think that movie still holds up.
I still love Terminator 1.
I think it's great.
They call it Terminator 1 on the box?
I think they do.
They do call it Terminator 1.
But hey, you know.
Terminator 1, maybe it's the best one.
Maybe it's just okay.
Terminator 2's better.
Rackets.
Robocop 2, though.
I've never seen Robocop 2
what's the deal there
okay so what happened
was basically
Frank Miller
wrote the script
for Robocop 2
yes
and
Frank Miller
of Sin City
and the Dark Knight
returns
and of being crazy
and of being crazy
and a lot of it
was rejected
yeah
but a lot of the
core concepts
sort of remained
if you
there's actually
we can talk about it later
there was actually
a series that was released a few years ago called Frank Miller's Robocop.
It was a comic book series.
It was like nine parts.
And it was what his original pitch was for it.
And it contains elements of Robocop 2 and 3.
And it's super crazy violent and a little bit nonsensical.
Yeah.
And it's worth a read.
It's worth a read, okay.
Yeah.
Was it something that Frank Miller
actually now recently wrote
or was it somebody got hold of his script
and then made it from that?
They did, yeah.
So it's not actually Frank Miller
who released this comic.
Oh, no, he did.
It's from Dynamite Comics
or somebody like that.
Yeah, it's not a...
I'll check it out on Comixology.com.
Yeah.
Okay, but what's the story there, though?
What's the story of two?
Because he gets shot to shit in the first one.
Yes.
And then he's fine or whatever.
Well, he sort of regains his humanity.
Yeah.
Robocop is one of those films I feel that didn't really need a sequel.
Mm-hmm.
Like, because at the end of it, he sort of regains his humanity and we know who he is
at the end.
He realises that he's Alex Murphy again.
And sort of thing.
And then the first...
And then back in the second one, they're like, well, how do we...
How do we make him this soulless robot machine again? And that's sort of the plot of Robocop 2,
where there's like a cult,
there's sort of a vague cult guy called Kane.
He's a cult leader, sort of.
But he's a drug lord, but he's also a vague,
he's a cult leader, but it's very vague. They never really delve into it.
Okay, so he just does illegal things.
Yeah, he does illegal things. And he's this drug
lord. And Robocop
goes after him, but of course he gets kind of
they catch him with an electromagnet.
I mean, sure, he's not magnetic, but
that's not the point. That's not the point at all.
I didn't say it was. They catch him with an electromagnet,
they dismantle him
and then
in an attempt
to rebuild him
there's like
a sexy lady doctor
called Dr. Fax
two X's
because it's the future
and she instills him
within him
like thousands
of unnecessary directives
sort of to
because he's got
basically a handful
in the first one
doesn't he?
He's got four.
What are those?
Serve in public trust, uphold the law, protect the innocent.
And four is you can't kill anybody who works for OCP.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Five, Robocop.
Five?
Don't stop a Robocop-ing.
Okay, cool.
So basically, when they put him back together, they put all these new protocols in him.
Does that kind of like scramble his head?
Yeah, it's sort of designed to make him useless.
Okay.
Like, again, OCP want to take over Detroit.
They want to bulldoze it again.
Classic.
They feel that if Robocop's useless, all the cops are useless,
Detroit's going to default on its payments to OCP, and then they're just going to take over the town.
All right, gotcha.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
And how does he overcome his protocol?
He electrocutes himself.
He sticks his hand in an electrical box.
You know how that goes.
They should have had a protocol against that.
Yeah, I know, right?
That would have saved everybody all that trouble.
And is that the one, not to give anything away,
that the bad guy turns out to be a certain thing,
which is quite clever? No. Was that the one where the bad guy turns out to be a certain thing, which is quite clever.
No.
What do you mean?
The bad guy's the kid?
There is a kid.
Oh, okay, so it's not the main bad guy.
No, one of the drug lord's henchmen is a little kid.
And Robocop can't shoot a little kid.
That's not one of his prime directives.
I guess that's one of his secondary directives.
He can't shoot a little kid in cold blood.
But that's how they catch him.
He's like, you can't shoot a kid, can you?
And he's like, no.
I guess I'll just get caught in this electromagnet.
Gotcha.
Okay, fair enough. So Robocop 2, though, worth
watching or not worth watching? I think it is.
It's more insane than the first one. Like, there's a lot
of... Hang on, I wrote a note down.
Like,
there's, like, it's super
excessive. Like, all the...
Like, there's people just, like, robbing a jewellery store,
but they got, like, a rocket launcher or whatever.
There's, like, a guy, like, a yuppie kind of professional suit-wearing guy
who robs an old lady, like an old homeless lady,
and then, like, a couple of prostitutes then immediately rob him
and then, like, beat him up.
Like, it's just this...
This city's become this sort of cartoonish endless chain
of, like, super mugging and violence.
Like, every street has, like, a burning oil drum.
Yeah.
I'm assuming that it only gets better from here.
It absolutely does not.
Robocop 3.
Oh, boy.
Robocop 3 is the Superman 4.
Or the Superman 3.
Or the Superman 3.
But Superman 4, where the budget is really...
The bottom has really
fallen out of it.
Yeah.
They don't have
you know, any...
Everything looks cheap
and everything...
They're really
scraped to the bottom.
And Peter Weller's
not in it anymore.
No!
Which, that's the turning point.
Yeah, that's...
I mean, he's...
We haven't mentioned him yet
but he's great, isn't he?
He's the...
Initially, I understand they were considering Rutooker Hauer as Robocop,
and there were a couple of other options,
but they're kind of huge monsters of men.
Yeah.
And Robocop, the suit was designed for a kind of a more live kind of,
more athletic kind of actor.
A skinny guy with a big head.
A skinny guy with a big head, exactly like Peter Weller.
You know it.
Yeah.
But in the,
he's the,
and again,
speaking of this decline of the Robocop franchise,
I think the Robocop 2,
quite enjoyable,
insane but enjoyable.
Yep.
The loss of Peter Weller,
I think,
was the first nail in the coffin.
And it's been a long,
it's been a long coffin nailing scenario
because it's been happening for a couple of decades now. I'm, it's been a long coffin nailing scenario because it's been happening
for a couple of decades now.
I'm assuming it's a scenario where Peter Weller was just like this, I don't like where this
is going, I'm bailing.
I think he was doing something else at the time.
Okay.
I think he had another film on.
I'm going to look it up.
Another movie where he was a robot cop?
I don't think so.
Okay.
Probably.
I think, I think given the options, he was probably like, well, I could do RoboCop 3
or I could do a movie where I'm not continually exhausted and losing weight and just and can't pee for sweating my organs out yeah
yeah from what i've seen the third the big complaint of the third movie as well is the
third guy is not very robocop he doesn't walk very robotic no exactly nobody has since then
in any way was that you've said that nobody's really nailed it nobody's nailed it yeah yeah
because he's everybody looks like
a guy pretending
to be a robot
like I'll do my robot walk
and then that's what they do
but he's
I don't know
something about him
yeah yeah
Peter Weller was in
The Naked Lunch
which is the William Burroughs film
haven't seen it
there you go
was he wearing a costume
not really no
just regular clothes
good
yeah
right so what's
Robocop 3 about
okay I've seen one clip I turned on the TV once and it was on at midday and I saw him flying Jim? Not really, no. Good. Right, so what's Robocop 3 about? Ugh, okay.
I've seen one clip, I turned on the TV once and it was on
at midday and I saw him flying
and then the movie ended and I went,
that was fucking weird. Right, it's pretty much
that. No, in Robocop 3
OCP gets sick of
waiting for everyone in Detroit
to die, so they just decide to
force out slash kill as many people
as possible, they they hire like
mercenaries like they're called they're called their rehabilitation officers or city rehabilitation
officers i think or something like that so they're just called the rehabs and they're basically just
army like insane mercenaries and they just force everybody out and like kill anybody who sort of
steps in their way and etc etc are the guys of we're relocating people to Delta City
and it's going to be great
you know
but they're just killing dudes
they're killing all of the dudes
which is the Robocop then
where there's an evil Robocop
that is
that comes later
that's one of the TV movies
ah ok
we'll get to that
let's get to that
you know
it's certainly an option
we could get to
but
yeah Robocop 3
is
ah
boy it's a tough one
no and it's the first one that was PG as Boy, it's a tough one.
No, and it's the first one that was PG as well.
Yeah, it's not super violent, is it?
Like, 1 and 2 actually... Because the toys were popular and whatever at this point.
Yeah, 1 and 2, the trading cards certainly were popular.
Sure.
So, 1 and 2 are rated, I think, and they did quite well.
Yeah.
Like, for R-rated films, they were quite successful,
but I guess they were like, well, now we have to broaden our reach.
Yeah.
So let's make it PG.
Yeah.
And it really shows. Like, the fact that they make Robocop, they give him a were like, well, now we have to broaden our reach. Yeah. So let's make a PG. Yeah. And it really shows.
The fact that they make Robocop, they give him a jetpack, I think is...
Great action figure, though.
That's the cue they want to make more action figures.
Although, I never saw a Robocop action figure with a jetpack.
That means it didn't exist.
Oh.
Yeah.
Boo.
Boo indeed.
Boo.
Well, there you go.
I guess that's a product of the 90s, I guess.
They kind of toned everything down in the 90s, didn't they?
I mean, it's the same thing up with Ninja Turtles.
I mean, things got more extreme, certainly.
Things got more extreme and more boring.
Yeah.
But you know what?
People are complaining about the new Robocop.
Again, I haven't seen it, but I do have free tickets, so let's talk it up.
Okay.
That's going to be great.
It's going to be great.
It's PG.
But a PG now is different from a PG in the 80s.
You can get away with a little bit more from the PG now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can, I think you can say fuck once.
Oh, okay.
And there's a certain level of violence you can get away with.
That's not to say, I mean, I think the new Robocop will probably benefit from being an R18 movie.
But just because it's R18 doesn't make something a better movie.
Absolutely not.
So yeah, there you go.
But in this case, Robocop 3 PG, it was the worst.
And then he saves the city
because he flies over it at the end.
Yeah, and he fights some Japanese samurai robots.
More ninja robots.
More ninja robots, yeah.
So what came after Robocop 3, the best Robocop?
Boy.
There were some highlights. There was Robocop 3, the best Robocop? Boy. There were some highlights.
There was Robocop vs. The Terminator,
which in Dark Horse comics is kind of the heyday of their verses.
Where they versed everybody versus everybody else.
They did verse everybody.
I think it was Frank Miller.
Maybe.
I'm going to look it up.
There's a lot of looking up in this episode.
I've gone very keen on research now.
I love it.
I love it. I love it.
You were telling me about this the other day, and it
sounds like a pretty interesting read that
probably I'll never read. Well, I'm not going to spoil
this one, because I
actually quite enjoy it. I didn't go back
and re-read it, but it's great.
It had Walt Simonson
on the arc duties, who was
a very long-time
Thor artist, and it's sort of a long time Thor artist
and it's sort of this
He did Ragnarok?
No, not at all.
This is 80s Thor.
But it's kind of
this blocky stylized
kind of artwork.
Yeah.
A lot of detail
and it's kind of
it really does suit
Robocop and the Terminator.
Right.
But the premise
the basic premise
of Robocop versus
the Terminator
is that
they've set them
in the same universe
and the Resistance has determined that they've set them in the same universe,
and the Resistance has determined that what helped create Skynet was the mental engrams from Robocop.
Right.
And so they feel that a Resistance fighter goes back in time to kill Robocop, and then
a number of Terminators are sent back in time to kill her and make sure that Robocop gets
plugged into the network.
Gotcha.
And so Robocop gets sort of thrown into this war, this, this time war.
Yeah.
And it happens like.
And he's like, I'm just a simple robot cop.
Exactly.
I just want to go home to my robo-wiping kids.
You know?
Not Frank Miller or is Frank Miller?
Oh, no, it is written by Frank Miller.
There you go.
Okay.
I guess interim crazy Frank Miller.
Interim crazy, sure.
I think there's pre-crazy, interim crazy, and current Frank Miller.
Yeah.
Who still produces some good work on occasion.
Yeah, the spirit.
I've seen it.
Oh, boy.
Garbage.
Yeah.
Anyway, so, and it takes place in the past, which is the Robocop future, and also the
actual future, and it's actually really, really good read.
It looks great.
Great.
They based a video game on it.
Yep.
Which is a good video game.
It's okay.
Don't go back, though.
Video games never hold up.
Never do.
Unless they're pretty classic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sure, kind of simple.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I bet the graphics are probably really good, though.
Are you as the Terminator or as the Robot Cop?
I'm either the Robot Cop.
Oh, good.
I'm the Robot Cop.
In the future or the past?
Both.
Yeah.
Why wouldn't I go back to this?
Oh, you're right.
Any other RoboCop comics worth reading or worth mentioning? There's Yeah. Why wouldn't I go back to this? Oh, you're right. Any other Robocop comics
worth reading
or worth mentioning?
There's one not worth reading,
certainly.
There's actually,
because I hadn't realised
this until recently,
there was a sequel to that.
Well, not a sequel.
Spiritual sequel?
Yeah, I guess so.
Quasi-sequel?
Yeah, not really.
Frequel?
Cash-in, I guess.
Sure.
A cash-in on the fond memories
of the original Robocop
was Terminator.
The Terminator Robocop
was just called Kill Human.
That's the... Spoiler warning
guys. Sorry to interrupt, but this
comic that Mason is going to talk about
is amazing in the sense that
it's fucking baffling and
in its stupidity and awesomeness.
It may be worth you reading it yourself.
So if you want to do that,
skip ahead to... Probably should
have checked the timestamp, Mason.
A few minutes. A few minutes.
A few minutes.
Four minutes.
Four minutes.
Skip ahead.
Yeah, maybe give it a read.
Or don't.
Do whatever you want.
It's a free country.
It is a free country.
Unless you're in North Korea.
How are you listening to this in North Korea?
I don't know.
Good on you, though.
Great work.
Yeah, absolutely.
Probably use your time more effectively, though.
Back to the podcast.
Okay, bye.
Bye.
And okay, it's...
I gave it a quick flick just earlier.
Into the bin.
Yeah, into the bin after I read it.
And it's like...
I don't like to just pay out on something unnecessarily
for being really terrible,
but it's really terrible.
It's like a fan...
It's like...
It's like Robocop wrote a Terminator fanfiction
and inserted himself into it.
Because basically what happens is there it's the future, it's the Terminator future.
Yep.
And there's one woman left in the world.
Because the Terminators have killed everybody else.
Okay.
More or less.
The same woman from the first one?
No, a different one.
Okay.
Anyway, she goes, she is on the run from the Terminators.
And she finds, she just runs into just runs into a Skynet museum.
It's like all sorts of relics from Skynet's past.
Right.
And there's an ED-209 robot, and there's some other bits and pieces.
Yeah.
And there's Robocop in a glass case with his gun, right?
Because that's what they do with him.
That's what they do with him.
Put him in a glass case.
But his skin on his face hasn't rotted off.
Hasn't?
It hasn't.
Even though it's been several decades.
Maybe it's vacuum sealed.
Anyway, Robocop gets reactivated and sort of helps her defeat the Terminators that were chasing her.
And then his mind is taken over by Skynet briefly.
And he kills her.
Like, he kills the last human.
And he's like, no, what have I done?
Kind of thing.
And then what he does, and I'm going to spoil it because who cares?
Yeah.
It's really awful.
But read it anyway.
It doesn't sound that bad.
It's pretty.
Wait for it.
Okay.
He speaks to like a Skynet AI thing.
Yeah.
He figures out how time travel works.
Mm-hmm.
And he goes back in time.
And then we see him first appear in the past at the steel mill.
No, actually, at Cyberdyne Systems, where the police are sieging Arnold Schwarzenegger and John Connor and Sarah Connor.
Like, he appears in Terminator 2.
Wow.
He appears in Terminator 2, and then he shuts down Arnold Schwarzenegger like with a
device that's got a, he hits him with like a
taser that's got a virus in it and it
shuts him down completely. He becomes
completely inert and then he sort of
takes over the Terminator role
in Terminator 2.
So it's again, it's like he
it's like RoboCop wrote his own
fanfic. You know what would be great? If I was
in Terminator 2 and I figured out how to defeat the Terminator because I'm the best.
And everybody thinks I'm the hero.
So he gets in there and then the helicopter chase happens.
Yeah.
And et cetera.
And...
How does he kill the T-1000?
Well, what happens is that...
Presumably because he's 80s technology.
I'm not 80s.
Future technology. He's not even as advanceds technology. Not 80s, future technology.
He's not even as advanced as that Terminator.
Yeah, exactly right.
So wouldn't he be worse?
I don't.
But anyway, the point is that it looks like, you know,
there's the truck they're in crashes or whatever.
It looks like it's curtains for everybody.
And John Connor's cool with this.
No, he's not cool with it at all.
Okay, right.
He's Edward Furlong, John Connor, so he's not cool with anything.
He's Radical's 90s.
He's Radical's 90s and he's angry that the Terminator's been shut down.
But anyway, then, it looks like it's
curtains for the good guys.
But then,
Dick Jones shows up from Robocop, like the
CEO of OCP. He shows
up. The one who dies at the end of
Robocop. Yes, but it's past
Dick Jones. Okay, right.
And then he shows up with like an army of
ED-209s that they've built
because what happened is
RoboCop went back in time
five years previously
and he met Dick Jones
and he gave him all the
specs for like ED-209
and like all the
plans to make OCP
a successful company
and gave him future info.
And he said,
in exchange,
all I want is you to show up
at this point in time, in the 90s
with all these ED-209s
and fight the T-1000.
But they don't kill him. Like, Robocop
knows the future events.
Robocop knows that they kill the T-1000 with like
they drop him in a
liquid nitrogen and they drop him
in a vat of steel. Yeah, he would know that.
But they don't do that. They just riddle him with bullets
and they like trap him somehow
like in some sort of
secure facility.
And then they put
John Connor and Sarah Connor
on like a battleship
and they put him
they send him out in the ocean
because that's
it's hard to
it's hard for Terminators
to get him in the ocean.
That's true
because swimming is hard.
But then
somehow
the T-1000 escapes
presumably because
it's the T-1000.
How long is this comic?
It's like four issues but it but it seems simultaneously way too long and super lacking in detail.
Like, they gloss over a lot.
So then the T-1000 shows up in a helicopter that's hijacked and it crashes into this battleship
and it goes to fight.
And then that's the movie Battleship find and then that's the movie Battleship
yeah that's the movie
Battleship
so and then he
the T-1000 goes
and he
attempts to find
John Connor
on this battleship
and then Robocop
who's there
he's there
he's on the battleship
he traps
Dick Jones
and John Connor
and the T-1000
in like a locked room
together together and then the T-1000 decapitates John Connor and the T-1000 in like a locked room.
Together.
Together.
And then the T-1000 decapitates John Connor
and then...
So, you know,
you assume it's curtains
for everyone.
But then Robocop
fills that chamber with acid
and he kills them all.
What?
Because that ends
the threat of Skynet forever.
Right?
Am I right?
It's insane.
Even for...
Why did John Connor have to die?
I don't know. I guess he's just like,
well, John Connor's over there.
I'll lead the T-1000
in the room with the acid.
By putting John Connor in the room with the acid.
But it was almost out of this interminable continuity
that the war can't be stopped.
Yeah. There's so many holes in that.
I mean,
I could go,
but anyway,
the point is it's the worst,
but maybe do,
maybe I'm,
I'm a little bit regretful that I've spoiled it for everyone because maybe you should,
you know what?
Go back during the edit,
which you're going to have to do.
Yeah.
And just put in a little spoiler and say,
Hey,
this,
this is mental.
So read it if you get a chance, but absolutely. Okay. And just put in a little spoiler and say, hey, this is mental. So read it if you get a chance.
Absolutely. Okay, I will do that.
Great. That's amazing. It's utter nonsense.
Is there any other Robocop comics that
I should read? There was some Marvel ones, but they don't
really... Okay. They don't really
reach that height of insanity
at any point. So
I thought about going back and reading a whole bunch of them,
but I'm like, why would I? No, why would you?
And again, there's Frank Miller's Robocop,
which is...
It's the culmination of all the ideas.
Because Robocop 3 contained
a lot of the ideas that were excised
from Robocop 2.
So, the rehabs and kind of
some other bits and pieces.
Yeah.
It's insane.
It's not as entertainingly insane
as Kill Human.
Is it called Robocop
versus Terminator Kill Human? It's called Terminator
Robocop. They switched them around. Okay.
Kill Human.
What does it mean? Who knows?
Well, he kills a human at the
start and then he kills a human at the end.
But it should be Kill Humans,
I guess. It should be. I hate to
nitpick such a work of art
with such plebeians
anyway
Frank Miller's Robocop
it's worth it
just to have a look
and see what
what could have been
if they'd let Frank Miller
have free reign
because it's
again it's crazy
Frank Miller
it's crazy old Frank Miller
remember I mentioned
that doctor
Dr. Fax
you did
sexy doctor
Dr. Fax
I remember
she's got a different name
in the comic books
which I can't recall
but they're real...
Like, Frank Miller's not good at writing women, for a lot of reasons.
No, no, he's not.
And she's like this one-dimensional sex scientist.
Well, that's kind of the problem people have with Catwoman in The Dark Knight Returns.
Yeah, yeah.
She's a prostitute.
And most of the female characters in Sin City.
Well, that's right.
Not Dark Knight Returns, sorry, Year One.
She's just like this kind of leather-clad, low-cut kind of sex scientist.
There's a lot of her bending over for no reason.
Doing science.
Doing science, I suppose.
Is she actually a sex scientist?
No, she's just a regular scientist.
Okay.
She's just the...
She is one of the brains behind Robocop 2,
who in this case isn't Kane.
It's a sort of a speed freak rehab officer
who's like the most psychotic of them all,
and they put his brain in the Robocop 2.
Right, okay.
Speed freak as in the drug or as in really fast?
No, he likes drugs.
Okay, gotcha.
And then his mind is wiped from the system for whatever
because Robocop finally defeats him, and then from the system for whatever because Robocop
finally defeats him
and then
she puts her own brain
in Robocop 2
because women are
the villains right
am I right
according to Frank
it's a wild ride
I'll tell you what
it sure is
so I guess
if we're gonna read any
read Frank Miller's
read the Terminator
versus Robocop
on the first one
yeah read Robocop
versus Terminator and if you wanna read the first one yeah read Robocop versus The Terminator
and if you want to read
the weirdest fucking thing ever
yeah
read Kill Human
yeah
boy do
absolutely
any of the rest
take a look
read the trading cards
yeah sure
now there was
there was a few TV series
there was
I know you did a bit of research
on this
well I remember
I don't
I didn't really recall
the TV series
I remember a few years ago you were like look what I've got the Robocop TV series you'd got the bit didn't really recall the TV series. I remember a few years ago, you were like, look what I've got, the Robocop TV series.
You'd got the bit like...
No, that's the TV movies.
We'll get to those.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I was excited for those, though.
Really, really upset me.
But Robocop, the TV series, I didn't really remember watching many of the episodes.
Was it the guy from 3 who was Robocop?
Oh, was it a different guy? A was robocop and i was at a
different guy different guy yeah tv actor guy gotcha back in the day you couldn't cross over
you're either a movie actor or a tv actor that's right the wire no there was no the wire so i
watched the first i watched the first episode of the series and it all came flooding back and it's
reviews are not good let me tell you and again it, it was PG, but it was TV PG.
Oh, wow.
So it's...
It's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. PG.
It's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. PG, but in the early 90s.
Like, 94, 93, 94.
Yeah.
And it's, again, one of those series where Robocop is this lethal enforcer.
But for whatever reason, he's decided to go non-lethal all of a sudden.
Is he shooting guns out of hands?
He's shooting guns out of hands. There's a lot of... He has to neutralise a hostage situation,
so he goes in there. He'll shoot a candelabra on somebody. Like, he'll shoot a candelabra
off a roof and it'll land on somebody and they'll be like, oh no, I'm trapped, but I'm
okay. And then immediately afterwards, he shoots the leg out of a bookcase. Bookcase
lands on a guy.
This sounds like Zorro.
It does.
He's more Robot Zorro than anything, yeah.
I'll show you a clip later.
Please do.
How many episodes of this are there?
It's like 22.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
I was very excited to watch some more of them
because they're all on YouTube, but they're all dubbed into Russian.
That's fine.
But then I figured, watch them in Russian.
Who cares?
You know? Doesn't Russian. That's fine. But then I figure, watch them in Russian, who cares? You know?
Doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter.
So on the back of this
did the TV movies come out?
Were they connected?
No, this was many years later,
I think.
Okay.
Okay, so then nothing really happened
in the world at all
until 2001
and you know what happened in 2001.
Do I ever.
Boy.
Yeah.
Never forget Robocop Prime Directives.
The TV miniseriesies movie miniseries.
I'm assuming this is all new cast and crew and everything.
It's all new cast.
There's a few of the greats involved.
Geraine Wynne-Davies, who you might know as the main actor in Forever Night.
Don't know what that is.
The 1980s, 90s vampire TV series.
Don't know.
No.
The greatest.
Used to be on at 3am.
Oh, wow.
Okay. I would tape it every week. TV series? Don't know. No, the greatest. It used to be on at 3am. Oh, wow, okay.
I would tape it every week.
If you love a low-budget TV cop show
where the main character is a vampire
who nobody questions why he can only work at night.
And his name's Nick Knight, also.
Oh, but is it N-I-T-E?
No, it's K-N-I-G-E.
Oh, well, of course.
I'm an idiot.
You are an idiot.
Come on, mate.
And Prime Directives is the one where it's decades after.
It's like a decade after, I guess, Robocop 3?
I don't know if they...
They must have said it after Robocop 3.
But anyway, he's kind of outmoded and there's no budget there.
So he's kind of...
He's a little run down.
Sure.
He's kind of...
You know, they bring him in for PR exercises and blah, blah, blah.
But anyway, and his, his friend Cable, which is a future name.
It is a future name.
For a second I was about to ask if it's the, but it's obviously not.
It's obviously not.
And he's killed in Line of Duty and he becomes Robo Cable.
Fuck it out.
I don't think they use that in the show.
I can't even remember.
Okay.
But anyway, the point is that he's exactly like Robocop
except he's got a different colour and he's got
two guns. And they just go and
fight crime together?
Or is it mostly about Robocable?
Yeah, they sort of fight crime together and then
there's some crazy
whack jobs out there that they've got to take care of and then
Cable goes crazy because he can't
deal with his inhumanity anymore.
It's pretty magical. That's a lesson in that.
Yeah.
How many of these movies are there?
There's four, I think.
Let me check.
There was four.
Right.
Yeah.
Worth watching?
No.
I say that a lot, but in this world where everything's free.
Sure.
But, you know, also I think we live in a time where there is so much good TV.
Yeah, that's a really good point.
You're right.
TV is free, but at the same time
our lives are limited.
That's right. Only by our imaginations
and time.
And Robocop.
Here's a fact about it, because I've just
looked up the Wikipedia page.
So Robocop is played by this actor,
Paige Fletcher.
That's not the fact. That's a good one, though.
But he turned down the role of Robocop in the 90s series.
Okay.
Bad move, but at the same time, great move.
Okay, so he's on the shortlist to play it in Prime Directives, right?
Mm-hmm.
He read the 450-page script in one sitting and was so taken by it that he wept.
It can't be that bad, then. No, no. Right? Oh, boy. Jeez. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow,
okay. Well, I guess I'll check that out or not check that out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now,
there's one other more Robocop thing in there. What? The cartoon. Oh, yeah. Did you, are
you familiar with that? There was a lot of... Oh, it's been a very long time.
It seemed like a G.I. Joe style thing.
It was more a G.I. Joe...
There was actually two TV series.
Okay.
Two cartoons, rather.
Right.
The first one, it was a lot of...
There was a...
There was like a villainous scientist
who worked in, like, the police department.
He was always trying to get rid of Robocop
because Robocop was, you know, not cool.
And nobody was always, like,
building new mechanical monsters to take on Robocop.
Yeah, so it was, you know, it was a kid's show.
Yeah.
But again, what a weird...
It's such a weird property to become a kid's show.
It would become anything other than super violent insanity.
I'm trying to think of another,
if there are any other examples of anything R-rated
which has been eventually become a kid-friendly thing. The closest thing I can think of another if there are any other examples of anything R rated which has been
eventually become
a kid friendly thing
the closest thing
I can think of
is Freddy Krueger
I guess
but even then
they're still
horror movies
yeah yeah
exactly
even in Freddy vs Jason
or whatever
the last one was
yeah yeah
there was a Highlander
I was going to say
Highlander
but that wasn't
that rated R
I don't even remember
maybe
but it's not
that violent
no exactly
but Robert
not Robert Cobb
Highlander also had those telly movies as well, didn't it?
In the early 2000s.
There was a TV series, yeah.
Yeah.
Mm, yeah.
Endgame?
Oh, that may have gotten a theatre release.
Mm.
In some small places.
Yeah, sure.
In Eastern Europe.
In Eastern...
Whatever country Christopher Lambert's from.
Yeah, exactly.
Or Lambert.
Is it Lambert or Lambert?
I would imagine it's Lambert.
Good.
Yeah. So French. Endgame, quite good. Alright. Here's or Lambert? I would imagine it's Lambert. Good. Yeah.
So French.
Endgame, quite good.
Alright.
Here's how good the Highlander movies are, in order.
Good.
Endgame.
This is our Highlander podcast, by the way.
Yeah.
This is it.
Endgame, best one.
Highlander 4.
Really?
Yeah.
Best one.
No.
You know what?
Because Highlander 1 is great.
Yeah.
And it sets the tone and it sets the series and it's a fully fledged movie in its own
right.
Yes.
And it doesn't need any sequels, which is why they made so many sequels but for a film that is largely concerned with sword fighting
the sword fighting is not that good okay fair enough yeah yeah but for for great great uh fight
choreography yeah good sword fighting it's got duncan mcleod from the TV series in it Duncan McLeod enjoyable it's a good one
Highlander 1
yeah
Highlander
it's got to be 3
right
3 then 2
2 because it's so
ridiculous
then 3
then 5
there's a 5
ok right
ok
gotcha
what are we talking
about
Robocop
there we go
anyway the point
is
Robocop the point is Robocop I think and then there was one called there was? Robocop There we go, anyway the point is Robocop
The point is Robocop I think
And then there was one called, there was a Robocop cartoon series
Called Alpha Commander, which I don't think had anything
To do with anything, it didn't have any support
It didn't have any support cast
Like from any of the TV series or anything like that
Or the movies or anything
And he never took his mask off
Well I guess that's good
Yeah, Pretty great.
I don't know.
So basically, I mean, from hearing all this
and from hearing this magical journey that is Robocop...
Into the toilet.
Into the toilet.
Then I think you're very much right in saying that I guess we are lucky to be getting this new Robocop.
Absolutely we are, yeah.
I mean, it's...
This is a franchise that's been driven into the ground more than once.
More than once.
I mean, I don't want to pre-empt the movie.
And I have said before that I think it could very well be That's it. More than once. More than once. I mean, I don't want to preempt the movie.
And I have said before that I think it could very well be okay.
Uh-huh.
And we have those tickets, so.
Yeah.
We've sold out. So it's going to be great, yeah.
That we probably can't even use.
Right.
But, yeah, I mean, I guess it could be okay.
In an ideal world, this would be the best movie ever made.
This would be the Highlander 4 of Robocop movies.
Absolutely it will.
Well, it is the fourth Robocop movie.
It is Robocop 4.
Yeah.
There you go. I mean, Joel Kinnaman, who's the main guyocop movie. It is Robocop 4. Yeah. There you go.
I mean, Joel Kinnaman,
who's the main guy,
he's in The Killing,
he's great.
Gary Oldman's great.
Who else is in it?
Samuel L. Jackson. Samuel L. Jackson.
Gives it his all.
Gives it his all.
Great wig.
Abby Cornish,
Australian actor.
Probably good.
She's good in stuff.
Absolutely.
Michael Keaton,
great in everything.
Michael Keaton's amazing.
And the guy who's Rorschach,
whatever his name is. Oh, I was going to say Hayley Joel Osment. Hayleyaton's amazing. So, and the guy who's Rorschach, whatever his name is.
Oh, I was going to say Hayley Joel Osment.
Hayley Joel Osment.
That is very incorrect.
Hayley Joel Osment plays Junior Robocop.
Yep.
He's finally got that kid sidekick we've always been demanding.
Thank the Lord.
Yeah.
Jackie Earl Hayley.
Jackie Earl Hayley.
Thank you, there you go.
Well, I was going to say about Freddy Krueger.
Yeah?
That he was in the last Mortal Kombat.
He was in that game.
That game, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And people always, they're like, oh, these fatalities, they're a bit upsetting, aren't
they?
All your fatality, all these, all these.
That's not super disturbing.
The violence isn't super disturbing.
It's the fact that there's a playable character in that game who's a child molester.
Like when he was alive.
We can edit that out. No, we don't. Okay, good. Yeah. Okay when he was alive. We can edit that out.
No, we don't.
Okay, good.
Okay, there you go.
Well, that's all.
That's Robocop for this week
and the podcast.
Unless you have any more Robocop?
Robocop, I guess.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So just get out there.
Get some Robocop India.
Yeah.
I think we might do
a DC animated one next week.
Okay, cool.
Because Justice League War is out.
Excellent.
Have you seen it?
No, I'll get to it, mate. Get to it. And we'll talk about all the other ones that are... next week. Okay, cool. Because Justice League War is out. Excellent. Have you seen it? No, I'll get to it then.
Get to it.
And we'll talk about all the other ones that are...
I don't know, mate.
We've probably got a bit of watching to do this week
after we get through all the Robocop
that we have to watch now.
Right?
Yeah, we can.
I don't know.
Yeah, but that's the rule, I think.
Yeah.
So there you go.
Fantastic.
That's the show for this week.
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Correct.
Ask him Robocop.
Yeah, absolutely.
Do that.
Just tweet him Robocop question mark.
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I didn't know how to answer.
I just had to leave it.
I didn't...
Did that really happen?
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
Great.
Mine is Mr. Sunday Movies.
I replied...
I'm sorry, it was What Is Robot Cop?
You're not going to respond?
Never.
Okay.
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Yep, we will talk about that particular
thing so next week
animated week after
that
like how much
Indiana Jones sucks
how about that
he doesn't it's good
yeah he's great
no death threats please
week after that
we'll do the
Robocop and you know
with all the news
and whatever that
happens during the
week
then death
well that comes to
us all eventually
it does yeah
yeah
alright
pretty great
pretty great
thanks everyone
bye