The Weekly Planet - 195 Comic Con 2017 (woooo)

Episode Date: July 24, 2017

It’s comic con baby! Woo! Justice League, Thor Ragnarok, Avengers Infinity War, Strange Things, Defenders, Spawn, Bright (it was a wand), Flashpoint, Black Panther, Ant-man and the Wasp, Dr Doom, Captain Marvel and more!We also get into the rumours of Ben Affleck leaving Batman. Thanks for listening!FOFOP Episode: https://omny.fm/shows/tofop/fofop-273-the-weekly-planetTOFOP (Check it out, it’s amazing): https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/tofop/id381224765?mt=2Thor: Ragnarok Trailer Breakdown: https://t.co/VKtzuYsPj5Justice League Trailer Breakdown: https://goo.gl/TWuhKR5:17 Comic Con TV News (Defenders, Stranger Things, Star Trek, The Walking Dead etc)20:07 FOX (X-Men, Kingsman, Alien, Dr Doom movie)30:37 DC/WB (Pacific Rim, Animated, Justice League, Flashpoint, Affleck Leaving)1:01:39 Marvel (Captain Marvel, Ant-man, Black Panther, Ragnarok, Infinity War)1:21:07 Miscellaneous News (Bright (it was a wand), Ghostbusters, Ready Player One)1:31:07 What We Reading/What We Gonna ReadDunkirk Spoilers (1:32:30 - 1:37:33)1:37:33 Letters It’s Time For LettersBuy Batman v Superman on Amazon: https://amzn.to/2OwNoS6The Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind our T-Shirts here: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet, official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com where we talk movies, comics, TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me is always my co-host Nick Mason. I've got one thing to say. What's that?

Woo! You know what that means. It's Comic-Con time. It's Comic-Con time, baby. It's time to woo at everything and then criticise it later. Before we do that, just quickly, quick plug, because we've got a new podcast joining our network. It's Tofop.

Ah, the great podcast Tofop. You're probably not, Mason. Australia's own. Australia's own. Comedian Will Anderson, very famous man. Household name in Australia. That's right. Charlie Clawson, famous man also.

As famous? More famous than us, certainly. Absolutely. We've recorded some stuff together uh they've actually put up an episode of faux fop which is a spin-off podcast even though it has more episodes than toe fop where it's me you and will anderson talking about the origin of this podcast and our friendship there's some new details in there there is some details yeah it was a fun episode to do it was really fun really good yeah so um uh charlie so Charlie Clawson was filming on his TV show, Wolf Creek.

Yes. And so we thought, Will Anderson was alone, let's corner him. So we flew up to Sydney and we recorded an episode, and it's a real fun one. And also those guys will be coming on the show in the coming weeks. That's right. We've got some stuff in the pipeline. But definitely check out Tofop.

If you like, they talk about Batman, they talk about movies, they talk about general interest things. It's very funny. They also do a great live show. They've got actually one coming up at the Sydney Opera House, which I believe is sold out. Isn't that crazy? That was quick.

They just sell out the Sydney Opera House. It's fine. I'll do that. So, yeah, Tofop. Definitely check it out. I'll link the episode that we're on below. But there's so many guests. Just get into it.

And also, if you're looking for it, it's spelledelt how it sounds t-o-f-o-p it stands for 30 odd foot of pot which is a russell crowe it's a russell crowe reference which is fantastic no very very cool dudes and we're really happy that uh that you know we could do some stuff together yeah because they're great dudes but i said that i said good but then after i said great good i changed my mind great you know nasa's great mason what's that all the comic-con news are we gonna we're gonna do a woo-o-meter what did we do last year i don't remember uh i think i wooed at the i think we discussed it yep and then i gave it a woo the enthusiasm level varied and how enthusiastic I was about it.

But there was always a woo. Oh, there's never not a woo. It could be the worst thing in the world. As you say, woo now, criticize later. Yeah. It could be a new TV show where they just prank me every week. Like I walk out to my house and I get pantsed every week. That's the show every week.

That's the show every week, yeah. And I would still have to woo. That's the show every week. Yeah. But, and I would still have to woo it. I'd be against it, but it's not the time for critical thinking. All right. It's in the spirit of the con. Yeah, absolutely. I thought we'd start with TV. There's a bunch of stuff we're probably just, we're not going to go into all of this in depth because there's, there's so much and I didn't see, I fairly certain I missed a lot of it and you may have also missed a lot of it. Saw everything. Good, excellent.

Then we're covered. The first thing, though, which people wanted us to talk about in particular was the Defenders trailer. Yeah, right. We've had one before, but this has opened up the universe a bit more, though. Well, I mean, Stick's got a new pair of sunglasses. Yes.

So in that way, certainly opened up the universe. I think it looks great. I think it looks really good. I'm really excited. I mean, he'd look better with a pair of movement sunglasses certainly he would well what would he know though you can't say him that's right mason yeah but they wouldn't feel right would they and he'd know because he's got the senses he's got the daredevil senses yeah that's you know he looked like quite the goose yes he didn't he play someone called goose at some point you'll think about that okay

i'm not going to think about it. Listen, what'd you think? Looked great. They're all working together. There's quips. People are calling Iron Fist on his shit. I love it. Yeah, it's great. Straight up.

Jessica Jones is like, he's like, I'm focusing my chin. She's like, no, you're not. It's clearly a weird mutant power. Magic hand. It's not cheap. You've got weird mutant powers and we hate you. I'm hoping this is kind of a return to what we got

like the best of what we've gotten from all the seasons so for me that's Jessica Jones Daredevil season 1 like that kind of level so I'm hoping that's

and obviously bits and pieces of the latter stuff I mean it's all coming together we've got a little appearance of Elektra she's the hands weapon to destroy New York

somehow what do you think Sigourney Weave is about is she the big boss or is she under Madame Gow like everybody else? Because Madame Gow's like an ancient crane mother woman. I think she's got an alliance with Madame Gow. I think it's some sort of Lex Luthor crazy real estate situation. Political.

It's always political. Political. Yeah. Yeah. There was also, did you see the Stan Lee trailer as well? Yes, I did. He's in his limo. He's in his bloody limo, mate.

Why wouldn't he be? He doesn't have to walk the streets anymore. He's the king of New York. He is the king of New York. Forget about him not having a limo. Correct. Yeah, so also we're going to be in The Punisher in this, I guess. Yeah, nice.

And speaking of, there was a, oh, I shouldn't, am I moving on from this? I don't know. Well, look, first of all, I'd just like to say there is, John Bernthal, The Punisher, was at Comic-Con and there's a lot of photos of him with his Hot Toys action figure, which is wielding a minigun, which, again, he did not use in Daredevil Season 2. It makes me very upset.

You better get a bloody minigun, mate. That's all I'm saying. But, I mean, when I think about it, John Bernthal at Comic-Con holding a Hot Toys miniature of himself wielding a minigun that he doesn't use, I've got to say, woo! That's right. Woo! You can't help yourself.

Can't help myself. Eight episodes as well. They've learned a lesson maybe. Have they? Yeah. Thirteen's too many is what I'm saying. You know you're right. I mean, if you're going to do thirteen, maybe this is the one you do thirteen on, but hey.

That's exactly my thought but i'd rather a tight eight than a loosey-goosey 13 is what i'm is what i'm saying we're gonna we're gonna scroll that on your gravestone when you die and without context and people are gonna have to figure out what it means in decades to come they're gonna be like why does it say a tight eight and not a loose 13 what's that mean is he some sort of sex fiend i bet he was uh they also showed a punisher trailer which they didn't release, which was apparently very brutal. And it was very like, if you were worried, Mason, that it wasn't the Punisher that you know and love,

the killer, the madman, the mini gunless Punisher, that's what we're getting. The good thing. Okay, good. Great. Yeah. Apparently there's a moment where he's like, you've killed everybody.

You killed the Irish. You killed the Triads. Why are you doing this? It doesn't matter. And he's like, eh. That's his realisation that he's just doing it because he's gotten into a rut. He'd rather be doing something else if he's honest,

but he's in it. He's like, oh. It's a habit, yeah. What else do you do? Then there's just a montage of him in the park a little ice cream flying a kite well that's how it got this is much better well that's how it kind of started for him because he's yeah his family were killed in the park and we're also going to be getting flashbacks of that as well so we're going to be he's going to be playing guitar with his daughter and that kind

of thing then it flashes forward and he's sadly playing a guitar. Oh, but more Spanish. That's right, exactly, yeah. Yeah, look, I don't have a problem with the casting of that at all. I think they did a good job in Daredevil Season 2. I just want to see more of him. So, yeah, his own seasons are kind of the way to go. But I also want more team-ups, man. I don't want five more series of everybody not meeting each other again.

Why wouldn't they? You can cross over now. They all got to hang out. They got to have a little clubhouse. That's it. But I think if there was some acting, we saw Foggy. Foggy was in there. Foggy was like, my city.

Do you think he's ramped up his acting this season? Oh, yeah. Yeah. He got a taste for it in two. And now he's acting the heck out of everything. He's ready to go uh stranger things wait i'm very well into it me too uh stranger things do you watch the one for that yes it looks great it does doesn't it it's back uh the upside down world is bleeding into the regular world yep if you thought a writer is not happy about it no she does she's not a fan. The kid who got out of it, bowl cut McGee.

I think a few of them have bowl cuts. It seems to be have some kind of residual situation. Yeah. Right. Right. Like maybe he's the magnet or something. Yeah, exactly. And we see 11 kind of breaking over into the,

into the real world. You know, what did surprise me about this? What's that? None of the kids got real tall. Yeah. None of them, none of them the kids got real tall. Yeah, that's true. None of them had that growth spurt.

Unless one of them's standing in a ditch. It's absolutely possible. They had to rebuild the set, so like Lord of the Rings style. So there's a school hallway, but it's crooked. So the super tall one stands in a ditch. Yeah. So I don't know. It looks great. How did you feel about...

Giant Cthulhu monsters? No, I was going to say, how do you feel about the Vincent Price bit from Thriller? Oh, yeah. Just sort of shoved in there. Well, the whole time I was thinking, this would be expensive, wouldn't it? Yeah, totally.

To do this. But I guess they've got the money, especially after the success of the first one. What did you think? It was pretty good. Yeah, I like it. It's right on the cusp of being a bit on the nose, I think. Well, that's the...

Of like, remember stuff from the 80s? Well, that's what that show is. It's right on the edge. Some people are like, it's too far over, but I'm okay with it. I think because after Super 8, I'm like, too much. And also, I feel this is also better than watching something that's actually from the 80s 100 which is a very bad mistake to make never go back we're gonna move

forward mason star trek discovery yeah who's the captain or what's happening what era is the captain yeah but there's other captains as well how do you mean uh jason isaacs is a captain chicken he's like the decoy captain at the start. He's like, I'm the captain. You mind the bridge. And then he goes and gets murdered by Klingons. Oh, potentially, sure. That's right, yeah. Yeah. We got Rainn Wilson, surprisingly, as Harry Mudd.

Who's Harry Mudd? He's like, in the original series, he's like a con man. He's not a villain so much, but he always- This is like 60s Star Trek you're talking about. Yeah, so he's always getting them into sort of like- They always catch up with him when he's being involved in a scheme and then he gets into bigger trouble. So I think maybe that's the key here. It's just like that character from the last Transformers movie

that was Steve Buscemi, the scheming one. Is that a good parallel to draw? Exactly the same, yeah. People remember that, don't they? Yeah. I mean, it just happened. It was like three weeks ago. People remember it, right?

Yes. That's the only thing I remember from that film. Do you think people who had bit... You turn your mic a bit this way towards me. If you have a bit role in like a Transformers movie as a Transformer, do you think you could record it from your house? 100%. Over the phone?

Yes. Skype. Skype, yeah. Skype's pretty good now. I've done some Skype recording and it generally works out okay. Also, if you just did it, if someone just sent a Zoom to your house and you talked into it.

That's true. It's good enough. Gold Zoom though. Yeah, gold Zoom. Because you're a celebrity. You're famous. You're a... Who's in that mood?

John Goodman. You're a John Goodman. You're a John Goodman. You're not going to take a silver Zoom, are you? Absolutely not. You're going to take this garbage one with a cracked screen. Well, it wasn't garbage

until someone dropped a mic on it. It was Claire. Oh, I see. Anyway, what are we up to? Star Trek production values as well looks great looks really good like you know they're they're trekking through a desert they're star trekking they're very good very good mason very quick yeah uh they're bloody it's it's all over the place it's looking great yeah i don't really know what it's about and i'm kind of okay with that. Me too. And it's also week-to-week on Netflix. Yeah.

I hope it's week-to-week here. I hope, like, Foxtel didn't grab it or something. Yeah, no, how could they? No, surely not. Yeah, well, some of the things here don't go to Netflix. Is it being paid for by Netflix, though? Yeah, but still some... Yeah, you probably...

Oh, is it? I think CBS might have handed it in as well. Hey, speaking of Foxtel... I will. So... Game of Thrones is back. Well, I was going to say, side note. So in Australia, the only way to get immediate streaming access to new episodes of Game of Thrones is like our Monopoly cable service

has this service called Foxtel Now. Yeah. And this week it crashed while everybody was trying to watch the first episode of the new season of Game of Thrones. That's pretty funny, right? And you know what? I nearly got it because I'm like... Yeah, right.

Same. Because I re-watched them and I bought them all because I hadn't bought them before. But I'm like, you know what? I really like these and I've never paid for them. But, you know, but now I have. And then I went to do it and I... Well, I didn't go to do it.

I'm glad I didn't go to do it. You thought about it really hard but I'm having that I'm having the kind of moment in my life from I'm going back and I'm I'm paying for stuff more like stuff yeah right because I'm like what am I doing with my life huh yeah because I've got money so I can afford it all right no I'm not rich but I'm just saying like I'm not I'm not working McDonald's like I used to yeah sure that's true there's true. There's no excuse for it. Up until a few weeks ago. That's right. Also, but it's also, what was I even going to say?

It's easier now for me to purchase something streaming. Yeah, right. Than get a torrent and then is it a dodgy one and whatever. Anyway, people don't care about this. Anyway, I don't care if you pay for stuff or not. That's your prerogative. Anyway, it's just funny that they were like, I feel it's funny that they're like,

everybody's buying this streaming service but nobody's using it at all. I wonder why that is. I mean, we've just advertised it non-stop as being able to stream the new season

of Game of Thrones. Anyway, should we add more server space during Game of Thrones? No. Okay. Oh, it's crashed. Also, Foxtel know

the numbers of Game of Thrones because they're always like 5 million people downloaded illegally in Australia so be ready for that anyway yeah

anyway Star Trek Discovery woo I'm having a good time me too it's good it's good to go back to the Star Trek-iverse I started

actually I started watching Generations not Generations the movie the next generation oh yes first episode I'm like

boy this is Encounter at Farpoint this is slow with Q wearing his little little hat little hat yeah it's like an hour and a half it's uh look I didn't love it I'm like, boy, this is... Encounter at Farpoint. This is slow. With Q. Yeah. Wearing his little... Little hat. Little hat, yeah. Yeah, it's like an hour and a half.

It's, look, I didn't love it. I know it's classic, but I'm like, when does this get good? It does though, doesn't it? Like it amps up. It becomes more. No, it does. Yeah, sure, yeah. So I'm going to push through.

It wasn't bad, but I'm like, yeah, this is from 1988 or whatever it started. Yeah. Amazing quality of special effects for that time. That's true. It would have been a very expensive show. The Walking Dead had a teaser trailer. Didn't watch it. Me neither.

Don't watch Walking Dead. But I did see the screen cap at the end because people are freaking out. Oh, yes. Because Rick wakes up. Rick. And he's old man Rick. It was all a dream. Yeah, well, that's what people are saying.

It's a dream. Was it a dream? I don't know because I don't watch Walking Dead. I don't care. Have you ever seen 20-odd Days Later days later yeah that's how the walking dead starts yeah i've seen the first five minutes the first episode okay well there you go so people are saying oh it's that but also the comics and i guess a slight spoiler for the comics uh there's a slight time jump where rick's a little bit older he's got the bigger beard and he's a bit older so it's probably just a flash forward.

Oh, sure. Right. Also, the show's not that good enough for me to speculate. Okay. Quite frankly. You could use the brain power, but why would you? Why would I? When I'm breaking down trailers left and right, Mason.

You did. How many trailer breakdowns did you do on YouTube today? Only two. I was the only person on the internet that was glad they didn't release the Infinity War trailer. Or did they, Mason? Oh, no. We'll talk about it later. Okay.

Maybe it leaked. That's what I'm saying. Oh, yes. It did. We both watched it. Krypton. Yes. Look, you watched the trailer.

Yep. And you said it was fine. It's like eight seconds long. But I read that Doomsday, Hawkman and Brainiac are going to be showing up, which for me makes more sense than what they're doing in Gotham. Sure, right. Because those are kind of characters that are old enough to have existed and been wrecking civilizations

or helping civilizations. Yeah, and they built Doomsday on Krypton. Exactly. Well, I mean, I guess that would make this. Actually, no, I guess it could still make this in continuity with the Snyderverse. I don't think it is. I know, but it could be potentially because in BBS,

Lex Luthor builds a doomsday. Yeah. So presumably on Krypton, they built the technology to build a doomsday. Okay, fair enough. Yeah, right. Good point. What a doomsday. Yeah.

Anyway, I'm going to give that a go, I guess, when it comes out because everything deserves a chance, Mason. Yeah. Anyway, whoop going to give that a go, I guess, when it comes out, because everything deserves a chance, Mason. Yeah. Anyway, whoop. Yeah, whoop. That's fine. But does this deserve a chance? Inhumans Trailer 2 apparently met with laughter in the...

Oh, no. Did you see the Medusa hair effect? Yes, I did. As a gif. Maybe as a gif or like a five-second clip or something like that. Yeah, it's about that good. Yeah, there's more dog, which I think is good. It definitely looks better than the last trailer.

But it's, yeah, look, they probably should have opened with this, to be honest, because everybody's reaction is just, what is this? Right, right, right. It doesn't look interesting or funny or weird or it's just kind of whatever. Yeah, right. Yeah, but there is more teleporting dog it's what the marvel universe needed it's what i needed frankly in my life anyway in humans woo or boo or well you gotta work obviously yeah woo yeah slightly better yeah

okay fair enough can we talk fox movies mason because there's three big yes there's three big panels from comic-con you got your fox your Fox. You've got your DC. You've got your Marvel. Fox kicked things off, and you know what they didn't do? Any X-Men stuff. None of it. So what was it again? Just them sitting there?

Yeah, they went, next year? Yeah. Because at the moment, I think they're filming everything at the moment. Like, they all kind of just started as well. But I'm surprised they at least didn't do a little Deadpool kind kind of like well hey remember me look at my balls exactly yeah the classic deadpool remember me look at my balls yeah exactly yeah so could have given away t-shirts that said look at my balls i'm surprised yeah like because normally they'd get ryan reynolds in and he to do something yeah they'd everyone would look at his balls side note did did notorious prankster henry Cavill do anything during this con?

He wasn't there. What? And you know why? Because normally he's doing a crazy prank, like he's dressing up like Spider-Man and he's walking around the con floor and then he's taking photos of people and they don't know it's Henry Cavill. A lot of people do that though, it's not just him, eh? Isn't that right?

No, I feel he's most famous for it. Ryan Cranston did it what's his name what's his character's name from Breaking Bad Walter White Mask I feel Henry Cavill's the cheekiest though because he's British and that's the cheekiest

race you could be but Fox this isn't actually from the panel they didn't get up and say this that would have been hilarious Ridley Scott's Alien Covenant sequels are on the back burner while they reassess the franchise. So not only did they not present anything really, they just said, and we're taking some things away. They didn't say this is news outside of the box.

Oh, I see. Right. They weren't like, hey, how our news, guys, is not only no new films, but some of the films that we're not doing them anymore. Yeah. Do you think we're going to get them? Because Ridley Scott is filming something between now

and when he's supposed to start. Yes, because what else have they got? Do the sequel. Get Neil Blomkamp. He's doing the Oats studio. Oh, I see. Right, right, yeah. Do the Sigourney Weaver.

That's what everybody wants. Yeah. I mean, even if it's bad, at least do it and then be like, look, we did it. All right? Sure. You happy? But I guess the, I feel the issue maybe isn't that.

It's that there's some executive who's like, I don't like, he's like either his baby is these prequels. Yeah. Or he doesn't like Neil Blomkamp. Well, you're an idiot because they're shit. Yeah. There we go. They're not that bad.

Real talk. Yeah. They're not that bad though, even are they? What? They're just the alien prequels. No, they're an idiot because they're shit. Yeah, there we go. They're not that bad. Real talk. Yeah, they're not that bad, though, even, are they? What? The Alien prequels. No, they're bad. Are they, though? They're bad because they're not great.

Yeah. They're bad because... Because why are you doing them? Yeah. Yeah. They're bad because they could very easily... Like, they're okay, but they could very easily be great if they fix some minor things,

like making all the characters not complete idiots. Like you just flick the intelligence switch up a little bit and then suddenly Alien, what was the last one? Covenant. Yeah. Might have been okay. I was going to say Walter, but that wasn't the name of the movie, was it? Alien Walter.

So you don't want to see what happens to Walter or David? Not really. Yeah. But I feel like also can they leave that hanging in the air forever? Yeah. I mean, they could also bring him back for the sequel. That's what they used to do with all movies. Is they left some stuff hanging in the air and went,

hey, fill in the blanks yourselves. Wasn't this a fun ride movie? Maybe you'll get a comic book, but probably not. Yeah. Yeah, so, but they could bring back David in the Sigourney Weaver one. He's an android. Sometimes people would be like, what happened in the further adventures of that character?

We'll never know. Nothing. Nothing. So just imagine it. He's an android. Sometimes people would be like, what happened in the further adventures of that character? We'll never know. Nothing. So just imagine it. It's fine. There doesn't have to be a sequel to everything and a prequel. No, I disagree. There has to be a sequel and a prequel and a sidequel. Anyway, what's the Fox News?

Kingsman 2 got a trailer. Oh, yeah. Got the compass. Yeah, it did, didn't it? Did you see the... Oh, he's taking off his jumper. He's ready for this. Oh, he's pulling out a lasso.

He's going to do a reenactment. What did you think of the laser lasso? The laser lasso was very funny. What a weapon. I love it. That's Pedro... What's his name? A Moldova, famous filmmaker.

Hang on. What the bloody hell is his name? Look, I'm not that interested. If it's not... He's from Narcos and he's from Game of Thrones. Oh, okay, right, right, right. Yeah. I really want to know his name now.

Sorry. He looked a bit like Orlando Bloom. Yeah. Pedro Pascal. That's his name. No, it's not Orlando Bloom. Orlando Bloom is fallen out of favor, Mason. He's not Hollywood's darling little boy anymore.

That's very true. Because he's 38, maybe? Probably, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. But no, Kingsman looks fantastic. That being said, they've just brought back Colin Firth. Yes. The previous trailer, we see Colin Firth.

He's back. He's alive. He's shaving. He's got an eye patch in his glasses. And we think, what's going on with him? Is it a tape? Is it a tape? Has he been kidnapped?

Was his body recovered by the bad guys and then they brought him back and now he's good or evil? We don't know which way he's going. But now he's just back on the Kingsman team and he's fine. Yeah, I was going to say it could be a pre-flashback, but the eye patch thing makes me think it's probably not. Yeah. What about a hologram mask?

Like it's somebody else. Yeah, robot. Could be a robot. Twin. I guess. I guess he could be back and then at the end there's a double twist and it turns out he's on the side of the bad guys. Right.

We talked about how it could be a Legend of Curly's Gold situation where he's got a twin. Did we talk about that? It could be that. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Or maybe I just shouted that from a car. Look, I'm not sure if we did, but let's just initiate a rule

that in any movie there could be a Legends of Curly's Gold situation. Regardless of the film or the genre, any character could have a Legend of Curly's Gold. Ready to go. Yeah. What else happens in that? Julianne Moore. Yep. She's the villain.

Channing Tatum is in there. So they've got the statesmen, which are the American kind of kingsmen. They're cowboys and they're whiskey drinkers. Yes. And they're lassoists. Yeah. So it's interesting to see the agencies fromers. Yes. And they're lassoists. Yeah. So it's interesting to see the agencies from around the world. Halle Berry shows up as well.

Is she the bad guy? I don't think she is, is she? No, I think she is. She's like their Q? Yeah, I think she's their Mark Strong, I think. Yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. She was great as Jinx in Die Another Day.

Boy, wasn't she. She looked like her own franchise, in my opinion. No, but look, it's great. It can't come quick enough or I can wait because why not? That's fine also. Yeah. And it's also, bloody what's his name? The director who makes good things, Matthew Vaughan.

That's true, yeah. He's never made a bad one. So he's like the good Guy Ritchie. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Not that Guy Ritchie's bad. He just makes bad films. And he might be a bad person. Is that true? No, I don't know. But I'm theorising. This is a Legend Guy Ritchie's bad. He just makes bad films. And he might be a bad person.

Is that true? No, I don't know. But I'm theoretically, this is a Legend of Curly's Gold situation. He could be a good guy or a bad guy. We don't know. Could be two of them. Don't know him personally. Okay, gotcha.

I've got it yet. Nothing. Anyway, woo! Yeah, absolutely. Very exciting. What about for doing something else for the Alien franchise? What kind of woo do you give that? Woo.

Yeah. Do it or? Word? Yeah. Do it or don't? Yeah. Okay. Channing Tatum also says that Logan and Deadpool opened things up for Gambit. So they were trying to get it made and they were like,

this thing you can't do, this is too weird or whatever. But they went, oh no, people like it when you do stuff that isn't shit. So just do that, do something different. So it's still happening apparently. I can't remember who's the director or even if there is one at the moment

because it's lost several and someone dropped out or didn't. I don't know, I can't remember. But Shadding Tatum's still in it and as long as he can still put on that sock with the face cut out of it, I'm ready to go. Look, I think maybe he just,

I think he paid way too much for like New Orleans accent lessons and he can't write them off in his taxes until they make the movie. That's why he's so adamant on this happening. Do you need to do the accent or could you just speak in your regular voice? Just talk regular. Because does everyone in New Orleans talk like that? I wouldn't think so.

I bet they don't. Yeah. This wasn't at the panel, but it was announced on Twitter. Which is as good as a panel And it just kind of It's like the world's panel I was like oh that's bad Oh no that's good

Like it really kind of threw me There's allegedly a Doctor Doom solo movie in the works That's right But Which sounds terrible But it's by the Legion and Fargo writer creator Noah Hawley Yeah

So that'll probably be great. Yeah. Because, I mean, you know, Legion was a character that I guess not a lot of people are aware of generally. And he, you know, therefore he had enough leeway to give it a bit of a spin and make it his own. So, yeah. There was also somebody else said, I can't remember who it was,

that it's not actually a Doctor Doom movie, it's a Fantastic Four movie, but maybe the emphasis is on Doctor Doom. There was also that talk about young Fantastic Four. Remember that with Franklin Richards? So I don't know what's going on with this specifically, but if he's involved in any of this, that's a smart move by Fox to be like,

oh yeah, let's get the guy who makes things that people actually like to do this. Yeah. uh potentially it could be based on books of doom which was like a six year six issue miniseries from like 2000 and something ish good six 2005 or six it's really good so it's ed brew breaker who did yep that's right you win a soldier and criminal and all that sort of stuff and it sort of goes through the history of the character and how is where you how he came about it and makes you really feel for Doctor Doom. Does it make you think?

It does make you think. Does it make you stink? Because you read it for too long and you don't have a shower. No, it's six issues. Laminate it, read it in the shower. Yeah, so anyway, that's... I mean, I shouldn't like that, but I do. So, well, of course, it's Noah Hawley, so it's, yeah.

Let's do it. Anyway, woo! I'm excited for that. Big woo for that. Yeah. Will that ever eventuate into anything? I don't know. Yeah, who knows?

Yeah. Well, if they don't do something with it, then they're going to have to give it back. Wait, is, yeah, exactly. Maybe this is the, maybe they're sort of, they're feeling out the absolute minimum they have to do in order to maintain the license. Yes. So they're like, okay, we don't have to use the Fantastic Four. If we use Doom, can we keep the Fantastic Four?

Yeah. Oh, we can, okay. Fantastic. If we use that robot that they put in the Fantastic Four cartoon. When Johnny Storm died? Yeah, in place of the Human Torch so kids wouldn't set themselves on fire. If we just use Herbie the robot, are we allowed to? That's fine, right?

Oh, we can still, okay, cool. What's the origin of that robot? Do three of them go to space with the robot? Yes, I think so. Very good. But the robot has no special powers. It's a robot, so it's special, isn't it? I guess that is a little bit special.

Thank you. Anyway, that's Fox for this year. But I feel like next year is going to be, there's going to be a lot of stuff happening. Also, I think Deadpool will be out I feel like next year is going to be, there's going to be a lot of stuff happening. Also, I think Deadpool will be out by this time next year anyway. Great. Let's talk about Warner Brothers and DC.

Yay. Starting with what's sort of a trailer for Pacific Rim Uprising. Yeah, what is that? What's going on? It's like a viral video. It's not very good though, is it? No. You're doing a lot of creakies there.

Am I? Yes. That's all right. You're not picking it up? It's not coming through. Okay, carry on then. That will. Okay, good.

Yeah. Yeah, what's it? Is Pacific Rim 2 the prequel? No, it's that John Boyega is, what's his name? Pentecost, the lead guy from the last one. Yep. Canceling the apocalypse. Idris Elba.

Yeah, Idris Elba's son. Okay, right. His name is like Jackson Pentecost or something like that. Oh, what a delightful name. I don't remember. Pentecost Sharp? I don't know. So this is a sequel? Yes.

Okay, great. It's Slicker Jaegers? Well, that's the thing. It's very slick, and it's sort of being pitched as in-universe. It's a TV ad or like an internet ad for Jaegers and joining the Jaeger strike force or something like that. It's almost like Starship Troopers kind of. Yeah, except that universe, like it feels so far gone in terms of, you know, the world has faced this apocalypse

and people are barely holding on to civilization. Yeah. That where is there room for this slick, this viral video situation? Well, I guess off the back of what happened last time. So they closed the portal and they were like, yeah, you guys are the best again. Yeah, so I guess if it's been like 10 years,

but if this is happening the year after, I'm like, maybe spend less of your budget on the ad and more budget on clothing and feeding all those starving people who have to live on wall rings or whatever what happened in that movie i i don't know i don't know why they even thought they should make this yeah it's kind of odd to me the movie or the ad yeah the movie right pacific rim is fine i don't remember it i remember that had a sword i remember i was just thinking you just had the sword that was the most memorable part it was a floppy sword and then it really just hardened right up.

That should be on your grade. Thank you. It will be. But it's got John Boyega's in it. I'm interested to see what he's... Because he's been doing some good stuff. So I'm interested on that. What is also interesting, I think, about this trailer is that John Boyega's in the Jaeger by himself.

Ah. Because the premise of the... He's the Jaeger master. Exactly. Because in the first movie, you can only operate the Jaeger by himself. Ah. Because the premise of the- He's the Jaeger master. Exactly. Because in the first movie, you can only operate a Jaeger if you have a partner and you drift together as a team. Yeah.

And you learn each other's deepest, darkest secrets. Mind meld. But maybe they're like, yeah, that's boring. We don't care about it anymore. Yeah. I think maybe they're like, the plot requires that that doesn't happen anymore.

So I'm just going to say anybody can pilot a Yagina. I guess it's easier because then you don't have to cast two people. That's true. You can cast one person. Can we move our mics back a little bit? I'm going to try it like this. I'm popping on both of ours. Oh, what about now?

I don't know. I'll let you know when we get into it. When we say some P words. Because I've got the new system. Say a P word. Positive energy. That's a big pop. What about pop filters?

Yeah, that's better. Are they still popping? Yeah, that's better. Okay, let's do a lot of that. Okay. Further away is the key. Turns out it is. What's next?

What have we got here? Oh, this is exciting. Sort of. Pacific Rim. What? Yep. It's all right. I'm probably seeing a lot.

Yeah, no, that's... We'll see. If those wonderful Aussie larrikins are back... I think they died, or one of them died. As long as their Jaeger's back. Their famous Jaeger. It's a big boxing kangaroo. Paul Hogan.

He's called Striker Eureka. There's got to be a better Australian name than that, I feel. Just get Australian, guys. Shrimp Barbie. Wasn't it filmed in Australia? Probably. I don't know if it was, actually. I don't know that for a fact. Jay LaG Wasn't it filmed in Australia? Probably. I don't know if it was actually. I don't know that for a fact.

Jay LaGuyo wasn't in the background, so I don't know. He's my benchmark for whether it's filmed in Australia. Australian Jaeger, bit racist. They just have two words that represent Australia. Harmless, bit racist. Not always harmless. Okay, so DC Animated Movies They announced a few

Okay Suicide Squad Hell to Pay Which is the first Suicide Squad animated movie Set in the animated movie Universe Because the last one Was set in the

Arkhamiverse Oh yeah Right That's interesting Okay I don't care Great Death of Superman

Let's do it again. Yeah. Why not? And also Reign of the Superman. Great. And the first DC animated movie was Superman Doomsday in 2007, where they did Death of Superman. Yeah.

But this will apparently adhere closer to the comic, which is no longer in continuity. Yeah. Also, take the good stuff, maybe. Because we talk about this all the time. But on its own, it's weird if you just pick it up and you've never read anything else

but yeah okay fine I kind of want to see it I guess I don't I think the reign of Superman would be

interesting because we haven't seen that but uh kill him again why not that's like they can't think of anything else

to do with Superman except kill him like is that what is most interesting it's weird right well it's when he's probably sold the most issues. That's probably why they're doing it.

I guess. But at the same time, there's... There's so much. There's so much. Though, to be fair, the animated movies have done, like, a lot of varied Superman stuff. Yeah, right. So I can't...

Yeah, I shouldn't... Yeah. But they can't think of one more Superman storyline. Well, they might be doing Red... Are they talking about Red Son? Or was that... No, that was live action. Yeah.

Or a new one. A new story. Yeah. Where he goes somewhere and does something that doesn't involve him fighting Doomsday. Dude, Birthright, they haven't done that. Yep. Yeah, anyway. Whatever.

Shazam! Begins shooting February 2018. No star. No star. Yeah, they must have someone. Who do you think? Armie Hammer? Oh, yeah, that would work.

The guy who's playing Gambit? Channing Statham. Yeah. He's got a big goofy kid's head. That's true. You're right. Yeah, Channing Statham could do it. Yeah.

Apparently, they were talking about the kid is, I think they said the kid was in a wheelchair or something. So it seems like they're doing the superior kind of route, which is the Mark Millar comic. Okay, right. Because Billy Batston, he's just a regular kid, isn't he? Just a regular kid, yeah. Doesn't have polio or nothing.

Or rickets. Yeah, or rickets, yeah. Anyway, doesn't sleep in an iron lung. I don't know. Yeah, do it. Sure, give it a whirl. I want to see it. So, yeah, absolutely.

The DC Cinematic Universe definitely needs more lightning, I feel. Yes, it does. There's more lightning bolts shooting out of the sky, shooting around. More smoke. Shooting around buildings, fire. Yeah. And that's what Shazam brings.

One of the big stories that came out on the weekend, which was the day before the Justice League trailer, was that Ben Affleck doesn't want to be Batman anymore. That's right, yeah. And it was... So he might be out after Justice League trailer, was that Ben Affleck doesn't want to be Batman anymore. That's right, yeah. And it was... So he might be out after Justice League is the rumour. Yes, and it was a... Before the Batman.

Yes, and it was a fairly reputable source. But it's also one of those things where he's contracted in, so they could probably just make him do it. Oh, right. And at the Comic-Con panel, he got up and he said, I love this character, I love doing it. He used some foul language. He did, yeah.

Of course I don't want to leave. And everybody wooed it. Everybody wooed it. And then later they're like, I don't know if I approve of this Ben Affleck's language, if I'm perfectly honest. He's got a big head, doesn't he? He does, yeah. Yeah.

But look, and I don't doubt his enthusiasm for it, but I don't take that as 100% that he doesn't want to do it. I mean, why would he go up and say, listen, just so we all know, hey, everybody who cheers, maybe you would. You know they cheer everything. You'd be like, hey, guys. This is the moment.

This is my last one. I'm not doing it again because I hate the character and I'm sick of working in this industry. People would be like, woo! He's speaking his mind. I can understand why he wouldn't want to do it because even though people like him, the movies that he's in, people generally have not liked.

Oh, absolutely. And he's 45. And they even say this in the article. So is he the oldest member of the Justice League? Yeah, he would have to be. By like 10 years. Because Henry Cavill's 30s. He's our age, right?

He's our age, yeah. Oh, jeez. So what was I going to say? I know, he looks amazing, doesn't he? Yeah. And they even made a comment in the article, something like, so if he does three, he'll be 55 by the time they wrap it up. But his body isn't a temple like Tom Cruise's.

They actually said that. Right, okay, yeah. That's a bit of a weirdo. But also, neither's Robert Downey Jr.'s. That's right. Yeah. And if Robert Downey Jr. has to do a shirtless scene in the next couple of Marvel movies,

they'll just CGI him a double. Who cares? He gets buff as well. It works out. Fine. But I feel like because Ben Affleck started out as a writer and he won that Oscar with Matt Damon for Angry Boston Boy. Yeah.

Good Will Hunting. I'll go fuck yourself. There we go. How do you like them apples? And so now that he's an Oscar winner, he's been in tons of movie roles, he's directed movies that have won Oscars, right? Yeah.

And this was after his career was in the toilet. Like he dug himself out of it. And now he's in a position where he can dictate his own terms on everything. And he's writing a, he wrote the script with Jeff Johns, the head of DC. And now they're rewriting it. And then Matt Reeves is like, is taking a look at it and going, nah, doing something else and just bend it. Like that would be kind of a slap in the face, I feel.

Because he's this industry veteran. Unless he was like, I can't do this. Fix it. Because like, yeah. But yeah, look, I think it could go either way. Yeah. And I wouldn't, and look, and I said this in the, because I did a Justice League trailer breakdown, Mason.

Check it out. It's linked below. Okay. If you're listening to this, Mason. I'm looking, I can't see it. Can't see it? No, it's under the couch. Oh. Yeah.

It's under the dog? No. It's under the dog. Okay. Yeah. What did I say? Even if he wants to leave, it's okay. couch. Oh. Yeah. It's under the dog? No. It's under the dog. Okay. Yeah, what was I saying? Even if he wants to leave, it's okay. It's true, yeah. They can replace him.

They can kind of, they can ride him out and then maybe ride him back in later if he's happy with the way it's going. It's not the end of the world. Because when I suggested on Twitter that I was like, hey, do you think this is real? People were fucking flipping out. Like, I'm just, like, like why do you it's just a rumor yeah I understand that like I get it

but it's it's okay to kind of you know throw something out there not every rumor turns out to be true but some of them are true before he left the Batman

a week before he was like I'm directing this I'm excited let's do this a week later he quit that's true so you don't I'm not saying he's gonna quit

but you don't know and if he does do you think he's going to quit, but you don't know. Do you think he's got bipolar disorder? Wouldn't you think it would be something where you're like, I'm sick of this rock? Or cocaine. Do you think he has bipolar disorder or a very large stash of cocaine? I'm doing this. I'm excited.

Let's go. I quit. Yeah. Yeah. I love this franchise. I love you guys. I'm on the Comic-Con panel. I'm leaving. I love you guys. I'm on the Comic-Con panel. I'm leaving.

I hate you all. Woo! I woke up the dog. He tells it how it is. But yeah, I think my feeling is that the idea that he's been doing this for so long and somebody's just like, nah, I don't care for your script. I don't care for any of it. He might be like, no, well, then I'm stepping away.

Now, I don't know if you've got this written down, but apparently, is the next Flash movie is going to be flashpoint or the flash movie is going to be flashpoint so i had one more thing to say about that i can't remember what it was batman bruce wayne bruce wayne ben affleck ban oh i can imagine i can imagine it would go sorry one more thing it could go a number of ways yes like if you're if you're down about it but then you get on stage and there's 5 000 people going you're the best and we love you that would no doubt go you know what people love this maybe i will do it so i can understand like he probably also fluctuates yeah that's the way he feels anyway cocaine and also the cocaine yeah yeah but so the the flash movie yes is going to be flashpoint and i think jeffrey

dean morgan put up an instagram post of the Thomas Wayne Batman. Him and Laura Cohen, yeah. Yeah. Who plays Martha Wayne. Yeah. So do you think that's what we're going to get? Potentially. Okay.

How old is Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Ben Affleck the same age? They'd be close. Jeffrey Dean Morgan would be mid-50s, I'd say. Yeah. But they don't have to be the same age, though. Yeah. Because he could just put a little more grey in his hair. That's true.

That's true. It's fine. I don't think they'd replace... I don't think they're going to replace Bruce Wayne Batman with Thomas Wayne Batman. I think they'll put... They'll definitely... I think... That's why they cast him, just in case. Yeah, totally.

I think what's going to happen is the Flash movie, Flash is going to breach some sort of dimensional barrier and he's going to encounter the Thomas Wayne Batman. That's going to be a crazy situation. That's going to to be like oh no this batman that i've known and loved for a couple of months now it's a different batman i mean they both kill people but it's slightly different now this one's got red eyes got red eyes so it's worse he looks slightly but i think potentially with bruce wayne batman if they're going to replace him they might do it with maybe a Nightwing.

Yes. Maybe that's your Armie Hammer. Yeah, well, absolutely. Maybe he's Dick Grayson. Yeah. Switch out Affleck, put in bloody... Armie Hammer. And maybe he could be there in a supporting role.

Yeah. Maybe he could be like, I'm not dead, but I'm just... I'm tired. And maybe, yeah, when he comes back in time, it could be that Armie Hammer is Batman. Is that what you're saying? Not that he even steps aside, that the timeline's changed enough. Is that what you mean? No, I meant this is as unrelated to Flashpoint.

I'm thinking that in story, in the universe we have right now, I'm thinking he might step aside and then Armie Hammer, who was the original Robin and now he's Nightwing, is like, well, I'll do it. Yeah, I think that would be the way to do it. Oh, the Nightwing we've known for four minutes. Great. He's Batman now. I'd love to see Nightwing. And they're doing a movie, so

why not? The other thing is this is the first Flash solo movie and they're doing Flashpoint. Yeah, right. Which I kind of love because they've established a lot of the Flash on TV. People know that character now. But they've also done Flashpoint, Flash on TV. People know that character now. But they've also done Flashpoint, essentially, on TV. Yes, they have.

What I'm saying is, is it too soon to do Flashpoint? Or is it the right time to do it? It's the wrong time to do it. I don't know, because I'm in two minds about it, because I think it's real weird, and I like that. And as someone who understands the universe, it's fine for me. But you're saying for a lot of people, or even you, no? No you know no because i and again i think it's the same thing that they did with batman superman where it's they didn't establish a rapport between the characters they just went

hey let's throw in dark knight returns and let's throw in death of superman we'll throw in doomsday throw it all in there yeah because they're the cat they're the storylines we know the most and we want to play in that sandbox. And nobody can use them. Exactly. Nobody can use them again. And I think it's just that there's always been buzz around, you know, Flashpoint is this notable event that's quite recent. And they're like, well, let's just make it this.

I feel there's got to be other storylines that they could use. And you can also fix certain things in the universe with Flashpoint, which is maybe why, again, they want to do it. But also, and I know you said that they don't really know each other and that is true, but it also depends on how Flash comes across in Justice League. That's true, yeah. If he's a major player and they really establish that character well, then maybe it'll work better off the back of that. But if he's barely in it or people don't like him, this is going to be a very different movie than what they think it's going to be. Yeah. Yeah.

But I'm still kind of excited. I mean, the stuff you can do, you can do the Amazonian-Atlantean War, which is from that, which is great. So you've got Aquaman and Wonder Woman with their armies battling against each other. You've got reverse Flash. You've got Superman who's in a bunker. It's like the government have captured him and they've just kept him under red sunlamps his entire life.

So he's all skinny and he doesn't understand anything or how to interact with people. Finally, Henry Cavill's more like us. They'd have to CGI him skinny, wouldn't they? Yeah, they would, yeah. Like Captain America. But I feel like all those things could be good, but at the same time, it's too early in to go,

hey, you know those characters you've just met, you know, Aquaman and Wonder Woman woman here's alternate versions of them yeah and i think a lot of people maybe laymen and women yeah who go in are going to be like i'm really confused because yeah the idea of parallel universes with similar characters that are similar but also quite different yeah people are going to like it but also maybe the movie is half regular kind of justice league stuff that's even more confusing. Yeah, I know. But maybe I'm saying you could set it up, the first 15 minutes, establish the rapport

again. This is Wonder Woman and Aquaman. Yeah, okay, sure. Right, okay. Yeah, look, I completely understand. But at the same time, I really kind of want to see how this goes. You understand, but you're not willing to budge. I understand.

Never budge on anything. Never compromise. A guy I worked with told me that. You know what happened to him? Was he killed by the Batman? Yes, he was. Machine gunned. Wow.

Yeah. But no, look, I do want to see it, but we'll see, won't we, Mason? Yes, we will. If we do see it. Well, let's talk movies. The other things that they talked about, also, Mason. Yes.

They officially announced the green lantern core movie which i thought was already announced yeah they've double announced it good great yeah did you think we weren't serious we're serious we meant it because they i remember they did a dc special on tv like a year ago before batman v superman they announced it then yeah like they had a logo and everything anyway uh no green lantern though which i thought they might throw out some they didn't do any casting which which kind of surprised me uh but they also had the new justice league trailer which was four minutes long it's been a year since the first justice league trailer four minutes that means that the movie's going to be about three hours long i think potentially it's going to be a heck of a lot of movie now i did my breakdown

mason it's under the couch and below. It's below. But what did you think of the Justice League trailer? Trailer three, four minutes and four seconds. It looked pretty interesting. It did. Do you see reshoots in this? Because the rumor is heavy reshoots. If we want to point out what is clearly Joss Whedon's work,

I think the joke at the end. Yes. Where all the four current players of the Justice League are on the roof. Batman, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman disappear, and the Flash is like, hey, they just disappeared. That's Whedon. That's Whedon all over. And I think the red sky might be Whedon.

They've changed the color palette. Okay, right. Interesting. To be like, can we do another gray sky with blue lightning ending? Probably not. Probably not, right. Okay. I actually quite like the bit where he's like, that's rude. I agree. That's fun. I thought it was great, yeah. and i also like the other joke about the flash saying he doesn't fight he just pushes people and runs away yeah right i like that a lot

so i don't i don't know how that's you know i don't know whether people are going to respond to him as well as they have the the tv show version yeah but it's it's you know it's decent this does feel like i don't know i but i'm still not 100% sold on these battle sequences. There's a lot of the Batmobile flying about and flinging off bloody parademons. There's some pretty kind of suspect green screen where it's just, it's not even the green screen, it's just, it's another kind of big, empty, abandoned space

where everybody's kind of shooting machine guns and crashing into each other. What are the stakes? I think they were like, well, we don't want to do this in the city because people don't like that in DC movies. So, yeah, I know. But again, it's not, it doesn't feel real if you're not in a city because what are the heroes there for if not defending their respective cities?

Like, DC heroes especially all have their own city that they defend. But this is the docks. Gotham, Metropolis, Fish City. Astro City. Astro City. Amazonia. Amazonia City. Arizona.

The home of the Amazons. That's right, yeah. I still think it's a good trailer. I did enjoy it but uh i don't know i because ray fisher also came out who's the cyborg and he said the reshoots we did weren't that significant which can and everybody was like i saw the footage which conflicts with what we've been hearing so when we've heard that before and then you see the movie and you're like oh no that that was a lie like that happened with rogue one but so we don't know at this point which way it's

gonna go yeah i'm gonna say ray fisher you're a liar well maybe his scenes weren't extensive and i think and again it's all entirely relative yeah they might they might brief them beforehand and they're like if they say other extensive research uh reshoots say we didn't read a single comic on if there's you know if somebody asks if there's extensive research ask them how to define extensive yeah they mean one million new scenes because if they don't no no that's how we define extensive yeah but also and i said this in my trailer breakdown mason all right you've got a youtube account we get it a lot of these scenes they couldn't have reshot and then got them done in time oh like the special effects wise yeah the rooftop stuff like the little jokes you know just the stuff of you know up close you can do you can knock that out in 10 minutes but

you can't have a spider tank crawling up a wall no that's true in a matter of weeks it's not possible yeah so i think maybe i think largely the battle sequences will probably be unchanged. But all right. Except for the red. They're going to make it red. They're going to make it red. You can do that. You can even do that with a piece of cellophane over the screen.

Every person in the cinema is issued a ticket and a piece of red cellophane. And there's a flashing sign in the corner of the screen. When you get to the battle sequence, you put the red cellophane over your eyes. flashing sign in the corner of the screen when you get to the battle sequence you put the red cellophane over your eyes that's smarter because my idea was oh they just roll cellophane over the screen but yours is smarter or is it in the long term because you have to give everybody cellophane but also yeah people will go back twice because they'll be like maybe i want to see it without the cellophane so you have to buy two

tickets you know i want a cellophane screen that rolls down in the battle sequences really slowly like the tennis roof closing and it squeaks or it takes the the length of the entire battle sequence to squeak all the way down and then the battle finishes and it starts to squeak all the way up again or they tear it off like a roll of toilet paper. Oh, yeah, they could do that. I guess that's true. What else? Oh, we get some more.

Jeremy Irons is Alfred. Yeah, he's good. Doing well. I like him a lot. We get a little joke about mechanical penguins. Yes. Which is fun. Yeah.

Someone said on Twitter, I think it was to you, does that confirm that this is in the Burtonverse? Well, see, that's the thing. Yeah, I still reckon it does. Yeah. And again, it does... I mean, you don't really think that, do you? I'm not against it.

And people are like, well, what if Alfred's really old? Yeah, I know, but still. Ben Affleck has different hair than Michael Keaton as well. I'm also willing to suggest that at one point, Alfred fell into a Lazarus pit and he regained his youth and he turned into Jeremy Irons. Yeah, that's very possible. Yeah.

Everyone comes out as Jeremy Irons. Exactly. That's how it works. What else? Ask Debenwolf. Oh, yeah. What were you going to say? Yeah, that's...

Oh, yeah, he looks like an armored guy, doesn't he? A big armored guy with a big weapon. A big and gray guy who shoots lightning at smoke and fire. Pretty great. Excellent work. Looking at that, I'm like, you went with a big weapon. A big and grey guy who shoots lightning at smoke and fire. Pretty great. Excellent work. Looking at that, I'm like, you went with a big grey guy again? That's the third big grey guy we've gotten. We got a boom tube effect.

Zod was a grey guy as well. Anyway, sorry. We got the boom tube effect. Yeah, yeah. What do you think of that? Not as great as I thought it would be. Yeah. I thought it would be more dramatic, if I'm honest with you.

It's called a boom tube. Is the boom tube, does it come down from the sky or is it a portal that opens and you step out of it? That's what I thought it was. Yeah, it's more like that. In the comic books, it sort of rolls in. Yeah. Usually from the side. Right.

Cool. It's pretty cool, right? Yeah, that is. Yeah. Now that you mention it, yeah, that is a bit disappointing. It looked like the... Like a laser shooting into the sky of every comic book movie? There used to be an old DC logo that had all the holes in it.

Like in the movies? Yeah. Oh, no, I don't remember that one. Doesn't matter then. Was it from Jonah Hex? Probably was from Jonah Hex. Okay, good. What else?

What else, Mason? All right, the end bit. What end bit? The end bit, Jeremy Irons is there and he's like, oh, I didn't think you'd be here, but you're here. Do you think it's...

It's Superman. Yeah, 100%. It's 100%. I would love to... There's been, but you're here. Do you think it's... It's Superman. Yeah, 100%. It's 100%. I would love to... There's been a lot of speculation. I would love it to be... I mean, he's got the red cape. Yeah, you can see it's red.

It's definitely red. But... So it's not even the black suit Superman. Boo! I know, right? That's all I wanted. That's all I wanted too. And the mullet, obviously.

Yeah, it would be nice. You better have a fucking mullet. There's been a lot of speculation there could be some other people. You know, Steppenwolf's like, oh, there's been a lot of speculation there could be some other people you know Steppenwolf's like oh there's no lanterns protecting this yeah he's red it could be a red lantern

I guess with a cape yeah well you don't know you can't see it could be just a shoulder you don't know it's a cape yeah

Supergirl could be Supergirl yeah yeah with a red cape Supergirl's a red cape no no that's what I'm saying red robin yeah I mentioned that one in my trailer breakdown links below With a red cape. Supergirl has a red cape. No, no, that's what I'm saying.

Red Robin. Yeah, I mentioned that one in my trailer breakdown. Links below. But yeah, like a lot of people have said, well, it could be a green lantern. Maybe he's got a cloak on. But I mean, realistically, I would love it to be green lantern or Martian Manhunter. Yeah, blue cape. But.

He's got a blue cape, doesn't he? Oh, yeah. He's got some red on. Sure, yeah. I mean, it's also a quick fix. Yeah. They cape. But. He's in a blue cape, doesn't he? Oh, yeah. He's got some red on him. Sure, yeah. I mean, it's also a quick fix. Yeah. They could change it. It might be a. Could be a fake out.

Could be a fake out. Which I'm totally cool with. Could be a black cape, black Superman, black cape on. Oh, imagine. Pretty imagine. Pretty good. But see, that's the thing. I would love it to be Green Lantern especially because then we'd have the seven person team.

Yeah. But like logistically it wouldn't work because you couldn't, like I know people are like, oh, they put Flash in Suicide Squad. But again, you could do that in five minutes. You just have him pretend he's going to a costume fitting. You put him in an office with a green screen.

You film it. Then you put him in a bank vault later. You can do it in five minutes. But this you'd have to secretly cast somebody as green lantern yes and then film it on a green screen film it film with the other actors oh yeah that's all yeah maybe not necessarily but yeah i mean i guess you could yeah yeah you could composite it together yeah but then the end result would be some people are surprised that green lantern is in the movie yes yeah, yeah. What's the payoff?

Most people will be like, point out and go, didn't they do a movie with him? Can he hurt Superman? Is that why he's green with the green thing, right? Yeah. So I'd like to be, but I don't think it is. Yeah. Do you think he will show up or one of them will show up

like in the post-credits? I think so. I mean, they mention him in the trailer. They mention them in the trailer. I did like that mention. But it was like no Kryptonians and no no lanterns yeah but well he says no lanterns plural no kryptonian or kryptonian yeah which is which means there's one well it implies that first of all that he knows about superman he's been there and that's why he's gone that's why he's invading because Superman's gone. But it also implies that there were Green Lanterns, but they're off.

Yes, doing something else. They're off doing, which might lend credence to our theory that Hal Jordan's off in deep space. Yes. Or whichever Green Lantern we have is off in deep space doing something and he hasn't had time to look into this. What's his name from Fast and Furious? The guy that I know.

Vin Diesel. No, the other bald guy not jason statham the rock the rock everybody's bald and yeah i know she'll bald michelle rodriguez no what's his name he's the worst one he says all the jokes oh yeah tyree skips it yeah he he's like he i've spoken to dc about being john stewart no don't make it not him not anyone but him yeah um get usher Oh yeah I don't know if Usher can act Which I fairly certainly can't

Anyway You know what I did like About this trailer What's that? With Superman gone The only one you see Fighting Steppenwolf Is Wonder Woman

Yeah right Because he would kill Any of the rest of them In a second Aquaman might Survive a punch Yeah that's actually true But Wonder Woman is

Probably a better fighter Than Aquaman She's certainly better. Oh, that's true, yeah. That's actually true. But Wonder Woman is probably a better fighter than Aquaman. She's certainly better at fighting big, tall, grey men. Sure, yeah. So I liked that where Wonder Woman then assumes that role of the kind of brawler when Superman's dead. Do you think the person robbing the bank at the start is anyone? I think it might be, yeah. I said maybe Black Mask.

Yeah, okay. Because he's got the suit. Yeah. Because, you know, they purposefully don't show his face. Yeah. So. And his coat has a red lining in it. Oh, so do you think it might be?

Well, I don't think the colour's significant, but I think that, like, he's the boss. Because there's a whole bunch of generic dudes. And then there's this one guy who has a very specific look. Yeah. So. Yeah. No, I agree. He's got gloves on. Two-face? Yeah, could be two generic dudes. Yeah. And then there's this one guy who has a very specific look. Yeah. So. Yeah, no, I agree. He's got gloves on, two-face.

Yeah, it could be two-face, yeah. Well, not the half suit though. That's true, yeah. You're right. Or that might be London. Well, maybe it's a more sensible two-face. Yeah. Yeah.

Because it wouldn't. If anybody can think of who it might be, let us know at Wikipedia Brown at Mr. Sunday Movies. Because it could, is it some sort of, maybe it's some sort of English-based villain? Yeah.

The Queen? Could be the Queen. Could be the Queen, right? Could be Prince Philip. Could be Prince Philip. That's right. Yeah. No, I think it...

I mean, it would be kind of weird if it wasn't anybody. Like, why are you not showing it? That's true. It kind of reminds me of the start of The Dark Knight where you don't see the Joker until... Yeah, right. Until he takes the mask off. Yeah.

A bit of that, but I bet it's not as good as that. No, correct. Does anything else happen in that trailer? Let me think. Oh, that's what I was thinking.

Potentially. If we are going to get a Greenland in this movie, potentially what happens is we get a Greenland in the final battle. Yeah. And it's like an alien one. Yeah. Like it's Abin Sur. Yeah.

Or somebody who they could conceivably cgi in a room yeah yeah with a voiceover guy then he dies and then the ring right is sent around the world to the next available operator yeah which is hal jordan or whoever you think it would just go to one of the justice league yeah like batman probably searching for most fearless, capable candidate. Oh. Batman. That was easy.

Yeah. I once flew across the galaxy to do this. I like Batman in it as well. And you see Cyborg doing some cyborging. Yeah, he's cyborging the Batmobile. Yeah. You got to be fun. Because I think up to this point, if you don't know him, you'd be like, what is he for?

This robot man. Yeah. He's going to turn the Batmobile into a giant robot though, right? I think he's just operating it. But that sounds way better. Yeah. Because you could do that with a steering wheel. Yeah, that's true.

He should turn it into a giant robot. Like a big cyborg-y robot. You can see as well, his waist is the same as the Parademon's kind of... He's got the same kind of tech on him. Yeah, right. Because he's built from a mother box. I was like, oh, that's cool. That is cool.

Also, I think the CGI on him is okay. A lot of people don't like it. I think it's fine. Yeah. I think it's fine too. I think it's quite good. Yeah. Maybe it's also gotten better.

Does anything else happen in this trailer? I feel we should squeeze every nugget out of it. That's right. We're squeezing nuggets. We've been going over an hour. We don't have to, Mason. Okay, let's not squeeze any more nuggets. Forget about it.

But if you think of something, feel free to... I'll just jump in like I always do. Exactly. Sparrow over the top. Anyway, woo! I'm quite excited about this. Yeah, me too always do. Exactly. Sparrow over the top. Anyway, woo! I'm quite excited about this. Yeah, me too. Who knows?

It might be total garbage. Yeah, who knows? Do you think they filmed extra Amazon scenes? Maybe, yeah. Because Wonder Woman's so popular. It's very possible, yeah. I think potentially they've regathered all the Amazons. Yeah.

I think Steppenwolf's appearance in Themyscira might have been added. Yeah. Because they're like, we need another Amazon set. Because we didn't see a mother box in... I think it was said prior to this that the Amazonians and the Atlanteans both have mother boxes. Oh, right, okay.

Like they have one and men have one, but they probably lost theirs. Well, they buried it. Oh, they buried it. They buried it in a very shallow grave. Oh, yeah, and Miles Dyson found it. Oh, yeah. Yeah dyson found it oh yeah yeah i guess just in his garden yeah will you rise with the sun to help change mental health care forever join the sunrise challenge to raise funds for cam age the center for addiction and mental health to support life-saving progress in mental health care from may 27th to 31st people across canada will rise together

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That's cool, Mason. Does it look like Captain Marvel? Yes. Does she have the asymmetric haircut? No, no. She's got the regular haircut. She looks like Brie Larson. Okay, cool.

But there's a few interesting things about this. That's handy because they've cast Brie Larson as Captain Marvel. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Oh, then it's worked out. That wasn't what I wasarson as Captain Marvel. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Oh, then it's worked out. That wasn't what I was saying. That's what you're saying. That's what I'm saying.

Interesting things from this. The villains are the Skrulls. Yeah, right. Which means they got them back from the box. And it's the proper Skrulls. It's not the Chitauri, which are kind of the Skrull light that they went for. They look gobliny and green and it's all happening. The other thing is there's too wide Nick Fury

because this movie is set in the 90s, which is cool because we've talked about before, there's so much space in between Iron Man and like the 60s. Captain America, yeah, in the 60s, yes. There's a lot of stuff that you can fill in. And I think, yeah, why not? Why wouldn't you? Exactly. Why wouldn't you?

Sounds really good. I mean, Spider spider-man's sitting 2014 or 18 oh the distant past oh it makes me sick just to think about it's either slightly before or after just now remember our haircuts back then oh please don't remind me mason but uh no i like all that yeah i think it's super great what do you think about all of that i think it's super great. What do you think about all of that though? I think it's super great. And woo! Yeah. What else?

Anything else about that in particular? Can we get an Agent Coulson cameo? Because he's not dead in that continuity. I guess they could do it there, yeah. He's not dead now. Do you think he'd have to wig up for the 90s? Yeah. A bit more hair?

Yeah, maybe like Pop. Remember when they did, remember in Iron Man 3? Yes. They all look like characters from Pulp Fiction. It's mostly Happy Hogan. Yeah, it's Happy Hogan. I reckon the same. Yeah.

They're the same. Cool. And this kind of begs the question, where is Captain Marvel? Oh, right now? Yeah. I reckon. Space. I'm going to say like in a Skrull prison ship or something like that.

And she's been there for a long time. Yeah. And she doesn't age because of whatever. Because she's got like Superman level strength as well, doesn't she? Yeah. Yeah. Well. Ish.

Yeah. I guess, yeah. Anyway. Stronger than us. Yeah. Hardly. Jeez, he's a crossfit. No, I think that'll be an interesting, like, because I think she'd probably be the most,

next to the Hulk, the most super powered character. Yeah, totally. Yeah. But I mean, the Hulk the most superpowered character yeah totally yeah but I mean the Hulk's just strength though he doesn't have kind of other stuff does he he's strength and smashing and stuff that's true which is nothing not there's anything wrong with that that's that's his thing but no that's that's very exciting I thought that was a really strong opening yeah uh then they went to Ant-Man uh and the Wasp and they announced the casting of Michelle Pfeiffer. Oh, it's Janet Van Dyne. Janet Van Dyne.

Ooh la la. Do you think we're going to get some de-aging? Wait, so is this, this is a sequel, this isn't set in the 80s? Maybe some of it was set in the 80s. Well, I think some of the stuff they showed was a younger Hank Pym. Yep. And I think they also showed an older Hank Pym in a newer Ant-Man suit. Okay, sure.

So we're probably getting some flashbacks, and they'll maybe grab her out of the microverse or whatever it's called. Cool Man. Cool Man? I like that. I think that's great casting. I don't know who this is, but Hannah John Cameron is playing the Ghost. Okay.

I don't know who that is. Nice to see the Ghost. Who's the Ghost? The Ghost is like one of Iron Man's sort of industrial espionage themed villains. Oh, one of those 50 villains. Well, they did Justin Hammer, didn't they?

That's true, they did. And they did Whiplash. They haven't done, they've still got Spy Master. Yep. They've got Crimson Dynamo. Oh, who's just like red Iron Man.

Titanium Man. Yep. Which is green Iron Man. Sun Turian, who is a guy with a mustache who lives on a space station. Very good. But he turns into like Iron Man, but Turian, who is a guy with a mustache who lives on a space station. Very good. He turns into like Iron Man, but he's like light.

Living Laser, who's like Iron Man, but he's light. Who else? Is every one of these something like Iron Man, but he's something? Is that every one of these? Yeah, I mean, that's his whole bit, really. Yeah, tech-based. I get you. But anyway, ghosts can turn invisible or intangible,

but not both at the same time. Okay. Invisible and intangible. So invisible, walk through walls, but not at the same time. You can just hide in a wall. Yes, you can hide in a wall. That's true. You're right.

Wow, you buy gum, you've done it. I hope there's a scene like that in the movie. You can just hide in a wall. That's not all. Walter Goggins is Sonny Burke. Sonny Bono. Yes. Of Sonny and Cher.

I don't know who that is. I may have spelled that wrong. Anyway, I don't know who that is. Which part? The B-U-R-C-K. I don't know. But the chairman of Cross Technologies. Oh.

Because Aaron Cross was in... Oh, I see. Right, right, right. I don't know that character, but I know Walton Goggins. Okay, good. Wally Goggles. He's in The Shield. Okay.

You know Wally Goggles. I know him. Yeah, Wally Goggs. Randall Park as Jimmy Woo. Do you know Jimmy Woo? No, but I... I don't know either of those guys. But I'm going to enjoy saying his name.

Yeah, I bet. Straight after this. And this is what I like. Lawrence Fishburne as Dr. Bill Foster, or Goliath. Fun. Well, he kicks off one of the, he gets killed by Robot Thor in the Civil War comic. That's true. And then he goes.

He gets his head punched out, like his brain punched out of his head. Doesn't it? No, Thor does. Oh, okay, right. Like Hercules. Yeah. But he blasts the hole through him. Yes.

And then he goes into, I think Tony Stark makes a heaven, like a version of virtual reality heaven. Yes. And then they go in and get him or something. Because he comes back. Right. Do you reckon it's going to be a flashback? Maybe. You know what is good?

Going back to Captain Marvel briefly. If there's any character. Sorry? You can do Hank Pym. Yeah. That's how I go on. Well, I was going to say, if there's any characters that they want to, like, retroactively change, if they're like,

I don't like the character, you can just reveal they were a Skrull all along. Exactly. Right? I had a question about that, actually. I was saving it, but you blew it. That's right. Yeah.

I mean, oh, actually, you know what? That being said, there's not that many characters that I hate enough that, just Tony Stark. But you could even be like, for the last movie, this person was a Skrull. That's true, yeah. Which is kind of cool.

They also showed some Black Panther footage, which is apparently very good. Great. They had a poster for that as well. Oh, yeah. We've got some... The poster looks great. Is it on top of a panther gargoyle type thing? Yeah, the panther head that we saw at the end of Civil War.

Yeah, for some people, that was like the highlight of the panel. They didn't release it, Mason. Thank God for that. I didn't have to do it. I didn't have to do it. And then they went with the Thor Ragnarok reveal, which was another trailer, which was a lot of fun, but maybe showed a bit too much.

Look, you know, I think this is the first trailer where we should say potentially, if you haven't seen the Thor Ragnarok trailer, there is potentially some spoilers regarding the allegiances of certain characters. Yep. So if you don't want to know... Who certain people even are.

Yeah, or you don't want to know who teams up with who or who fights who. I mean, potentially some allegiances will go... It's a movie that has Loki in it, so potentially some allegiances might go some way and then switch to another way. Yeah. But if you don't want to know it all, don't listen to us ever. Yeah, because we'll probably bring it up between now and November. Yeah, exactly right.

When this movie is out. There's more Hulk in this though, isn't there? Yes. And he talks. Talking Hulk. By the way, everybody, I did a trailer breakdown for this. It's linked below. It's under the couch, Mason.

Have a look. Did it drive you mad? No, this one, well, when you showed up here, I'd finished two trailer breakdowns this. It's linked below. It's under the couch, Mason. Did it drive you mad? No. When you showed up here, I'd finished two trailer breakdowns. How did I look? You said I looked small in my shirt. You looked like you'd lost a lot of water weight and you'd shrunk down in your shirt.

You're all like some sort of crab person. You looked right at home on this bloody Ragnarok planet. Absolutely. You'd have looked right at home on this bloody Ragnarok planet. Absolutely. So this Hulk has been Hulk for two years. Oh, okay. Which is why he can kind of talk more.

Apparently he's got the vocab of a two-year-old. Because I guess he's never Hulk long enough to learn anything. Right. But does that mean when he transforms back into Bruce Banner... That he loses it all? Does he lose it when he becomes the Hulk again? Because I think he still remembers things that happened to him. he becomes the Hulk again I don't think so because I think he still remembers things that happened to him okay right

and I didn't mention this in my but Bruce Banner doesn't remember what happens to the Hulk yeah so maybe it's a switch it's a switcheroo it's been two years

so I guess if you haven't if you've been locked in someone's mind for two years you're going to be a bit just wander off a bit a bit kind of scattered yeah it's definitely

it seems like it's going to be pretty wacky as well there's some good jokes I like how Thor's like oh no I beat you with that Yeah, it seems like it's going to be pretty wacky as well. There's some good jokes. I like how Thor's like, oh no, I beat you in that battle quite easily. I thought that was pretty funny. But no, I like this talking Hulk, even though he did talk in Avengers. But I guess he was just putting two words together.

Yeah, right, exactly. Like he knows the word puny and he heard the word God, so he put them together. So he put them together. But I think the reason Loki might be chained up is because he went there to see Thor fight and then bet on Thor. And then the Hulk came out and he's like, oh no. Right, okay, sure. And that's probably why he was chained up.

I'm guessing. I don't know whether that... Maybe, yeah. What else, Mason? Giant wolf? There was a giant wolf? Yep. There was some sort of

fire demon creature that I don't know who that was Surtr okay right right right it's because there's so many fire demons in the Marvel Universe

yeah right yeah but yeah that was a cool shot at the end but I guess again that's that's probably something

that happens at the end of the movie because you see them break out yes and then go to Asgard and then fight Halagard yeah right haller and and and all that kind of thing it's yeah i think i don't know i think they might have done a bit

too much but yeah we've been spider-man was still good and they revealed a lot that's true yeah that's true we had a really good time bloody uh what else great some great graphics in it great marvel studios bloody logo turning into like an 80s boom. Pretty good. Yeah. What else? What else? I just spent about six hours on this.

Oh yeah? A little bit more. More like ten. So I don't... Can't form words anymore? I should know because I just did it, Mason. Let me bring up my list.

Okay, bring up your list. Of things that I hate about you. Oh, what? Oh, Korg's in it. Played by Taika Wait you. Oh, what? Oh, Korg's in it. Played by Taika Waititi. Oh, fun. Yeah, which is cool.

Apparently he's going to do them like a Polynesian bouncer. Like really softly spoken, but you ever seen a Polynesian bouncer? Yeah, they're very big. And tough as nails, Mason. So he's... Okay. Oh, he's going to be CGI. Yeah, he's the CGI.

You see him briefly in the trailer. I was going to say, they're going to put a muscle suit on. Yeah. It's easy. Oh, the wolf's called Ferris, by the way. Fenris. Fenris, yeah. Who's a child of Loki, potentially.

There you go. But I guess I'll change that. No, no, there's going to be a very graphic birth scene. Also, Jeff Goldblum said at the panel that the Grandmaster was conceived with the Big Bang and he is the brother of the Collector. So then I thought they were just wacky dudes in the universe. But they have been around for...

Yep. Again, the whole team, the Grandmaster, the Collector, the Runner. I remember that one. The other ones. Great poster too. Did you see the poster? I did that one. The other ones. The other ones, yeah. Great poster too. Did you see the poster? Yeah, I did, yeah. Looks amazing.

And we're getting away from that, just a big face. Yeah. The logo or whatever, which is cool. It seems like they're, and you see this more in Spider-Man as well, they're catering the posters to the tone that they want to hit with the movies, which is a pretty cool idea, Mason. Do you get the feeling as well Thor was really excited about getting a team together like the Avengers?

Yeah, I was. I mean, because in the previous trailer, Thor jumps out and he goes, yes, it's my friend from work. I love the idea that Thor thinks that the Avengers is like a job. Like everybody goes to work and they just fight monsters or aliens.

He thinks this is a job that other people have because he's never had a job. He's so excited. He must think that other people who go to work in an office and do photocopies are having as much fun as he is. Right. Because that's what he thinks a job is. That's fun. So I love, yeah, I enjoy the fact that he's like,

let's put a team together. Yeah, absolutely. Anyway, woo! Big woo for that. I don't think there's anything for that don't think if there's anything else in this oh there's a bit where he's kind of all

lightened up at the end oh yeah do you think he's like you know remember in the Avengers he's like a battery like he takes in all that electricity at the top

of the tower that's right yeah do you think that's what he does or do you think he's like maybe do you think he's more powered than he thinks

like he's got Mjolnir inside him maybe maybe it's his magic belt yeah could be his magic belt maybe he remembers he's got a magic belt that they mention in Homecoming

yeah but uh they do mention that belt in Homecoming actually yeah they do yeah but uh yeah I don't know

that's a good question because in the first Thor movie he loses the hammer and of course he has no powers but then he but everything's stripped off him then as well

yeah but then he gets it back you were saying and then he regains his power but then the hammer's destroyed. Yeah. Who knows? Do you think he'll get the hammer back?

Yes. This leads us perfectly, Mason, into the leaked trailer for Avengers Infinity War, which you watched. Yes. The worst aspect ratio of anything that's ever been. Yes. But I still watched it. Look, I've mentioned on this show before, like I kind of feel like Comic-Con,

like going to Comic-Con is probably not for me. Agreed. But then I think, you know what, wouldn't it be fun to be like around like thousands of people who love all the stuff that I love and they're all enthusiastic about it and they're clapping and cheering and, you know, you get to see stuff before everybody else

and it's famous people and you could yell a question at Robert Downey Jr. He might yell back at you to have a good old time. But then I watched this trailer and I thought, you know what, if this is a microcosm of what Comic-Con is like, it feels like hell to me. Yes.

Like a living hell. And apparently this year was even worse. The trailer goes for like a minute and a half. Yeah. No one stops wooing the whole time. It's constant wooing. There should be someone at the start. It's Constance Wu, some sort of actor, I think.

Someone should get up at the start. Chris Hardwick, probably, because he's doing this. Be like, listen, can we all shut up for this? I reckon they should do it once. No, I reckon it should be Shane-based. So they do it once and everybody wo I reckon it should be shame-based. So they do it once, and everybody woos for every fraction, like the entire time, and then they wait the 10 minutes for people to calm, and then they go,

okay, guys, I hope you enjoyed that now. We're going to watch it again. If everybody could shut up for people who actually wanted to watch it and take it in before they wooed. You know what it is? It's people who... Look, and again, enjoy however you want. Disagree.

Don't woo. No, because that's the thing. The people who are in there, they want to woo. Well, they've lined up for three days. Exactly. But I think what happens there is that the Marvel logo comes up and people start to woo. And then something happens, like a character appears and then you

have to woo yeah like it's 2 000 people in a room who have to who decided they need to convince everybody else that they're the best fan of everything so if they if they don't woo it's if they don't if they stop wooing never stop and a character appears on screen and they don't woo, it looks like they don't get the reference. And so they're going to look like quite the fool and then they have to sit down. And then eventually there's only one person left. I think it's okay. And then Robert Downey Jr. makes out with them.

But my feeling... I think it's okay to not get a reference. Me too. But I'm saying that in the... Again, like you said, they've been waiting for four hours in a line that you're already generous you're already the best fan yeah you don't have just you're one of the 2 000 people in the world who get to see this imagine if they went into the movies like this like the marvel logo came up and people just like i recognize that logo i couldn't. I'd have to say something.

Settle down, everyone. Settle down a bit. Settle down, right? It's a bit much. That being said, even from the aspect ratio and the wooing, this looked amazing. It looks pretty good, right? Even just seeing Thor on the Milano with the Guardians is just kind of...

Yeah, right? And what I love about this compared to, say, the Justice League is Thor was out in 2011, Guardians was 2014. It's just kind of... Yeah, right. And what I love about this compared to, say, the Justice League is... Thor was out in 2011. Guardians was 2014. We've seen these guys separately. Yeah, right. And it's weird to see them together.

Isn't it? But it also makes sense because they're built up. So I guess at the end of Thor, Ragnarok is just flung into space. Yeah, right. Maybe. Sure. Yeah. Or it's...

I mean, maybe it's an unrelated adventure. It could be an unrelated adventure. You're absolutely right. What else is there? You see Captain America the Beard. People wooed that. Sure. Yeah. Or it's, I mean, it's, maybe it's an unrelated adventure. It could be an unrelated adventure. You're absolutely right. Uh, what else is there? You see Captain America, the beard, people wooed that. Yep. Don't need to woo a beard. It's fine.

We see Spider-Man, everybody wooed that. He was on a bus. Yeah. I've taken buses. You don't need to woo it. It's fine. Do you think that's, I think they wooed him more than Doctor Strange because we just got Spider-Man.

Oh yeah, totally. We just got Doctor Strange. But even seeing like, and we talked about this last week because we talked got Spider-Man. Oh yeah, totally. We just got Doctor Strange. But even seeing like, and we talked about this last week because we talked about the footage description. Yes. Even seeing like Star-Lord

and Doctor Strange together, that's an awesome combo. Isn't it though, yeah. And they're both attacking Thanos with his big bald dumb head. And we saw the bit how he pulled the planet. Yeah.

He just took it in. Would have been nice to see it at a better angle. Yeah, well, yeah, absolutely. Whose fault do you think that is? The guy who filmed it. Yeah, what are you doing? Just get one of those pairs of glasses with the camera in it.

That's what I always think. I think because we go to stuff early occasionally. Yes. I could wear a pair of those and nobody would know. Exactly. I mean, I remember once they said they had infrared goggles to kind of see if anybody had any technology. But even then, just be like, my glasses, you can't have them.

I can't have my glasses. Yeah. I can't have my glasses, all right? Yeah, so I don't know. I don't know what's going on there. No, it really looks great. But there's a guy at ABC, and I probably shouldn't say his name just in case. He messaged me prior to this, and he said they'll show Black Panther and Ragnarok,

but they probably won't release the Infinity War trailer until November. Okay, right. Yeah. But then again, now that it's leaked, that could change. But also, if I was Marvel, I wouldn't release it to be like, that's a bad precedent for people coming and going,

oh, if I film this, then they'll release it the next day. Because remember, that's what they did with, well, nobody filmed it, but with the first Age of Ultron trailer, it got leaked three days prior, so then they released it. Yeah. Yeah.

What I think they should do is they should release, they should release the trailer in HD, so we all get a good look at it, and then it says, would you like to click on the next video, and you click on the little next panel, and it's the person who filmed it being executed. They'd get away with it.

Yeah, that's right. And so someone has to sacrifice themselves every time. What do you think about people filming this stuff and releasing it? Because I have to watch it. Yeah, right. I don't have to watch it, but even if I wasn't doing this,

I'd feel compelled to watch it. But then sometimes I'm like, that's probably not the ideal way that I wanted to kind of see it. Yeah, I'd rather not see it and then see it in HD at some point. Yeah, fair enough. See it nice and crisp at an angle that I'm comfortable kind of see. Yeah. I'd rather, I'd rather not see it. Yeah. And then see it in HD at some point. Yeah. Fair enough.

See it nice and crisp at an angle that I'm comfortable with. Regular angle. Regular angle in front of my face. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Anyway, I still, but also it makes sense that they didn't release it because then they'd have trailers for three movies out before those movies are out.

So there'd be Ragnarok, Black Panther and Avengers. So I think after yeah after ragnarok's out yeah do we see winter soldier in it yes he's got his arm back i don't not i couldn't tell from that's embarrassing for him i only watched it once i didn't yeah yeah all right uh we gotta do anyway big woo mason woo not as big as ragnarok though i think yeah i mean eventually yeah probably a bigger woo than Ragnarok. Looks like a sweet-ass trailer. Now, this section is called Miscellaneous. Okay.

It's trailers that don't necessarily fit the mold, Mason. Okay. And a bit of news. Don't mind if we do. Bright, which was a Netflix original, David Ayer, written by Max Landis, Scott Will Smith, and Joel Edgerton. An unrecognizable Joel Edgerton. This looks really good.

Yeah. This sort of came out of nowhere. Or do we... We have to... I think... Maybe we've talked about it briefly. Oh, I'm sorry. I should have said it's come out of nowhere for me

because I have no memory of anything we talk about on this podcast. But no, I like the world. Yeah, okay, yeah. Like it's modern day except it's kind of a semi-fantasy world where this stuff is just carried over into the modern day and just kind of... It's a little bit like Shadowrun. What's Shadowrun?

Shadowrun was like a cyberpunk RPG but magic re-emerged in the world. What was that? Like the 80s. Oh, role-playing games. Yes. And it's been in video games and stuff as well. cool novels is it good yeah so it's like orcs and ferris wheels also ferris wheels precisely yes i was trying to think of a modern day reference it's a bit like it's a bit like well see initially i'm like did you watch that movie alien nation? Had James Caan in it? It was a TV series as well.

So basically it was this spaceship crashes on Earth and it's like a whole bunch of aliens that were bred as slave aliens and they interregulated them into society. It was about immigration, I think. Oh, it's a parallel. It's a parallel. Initially I thought it was a bit like that, but I think this is more just...

They're just in society. They're just in society, yeah. But also this is apparently the first orc cop there's ever been. Oh. And in this universe, there exists like wish-granting fairies and things like that. Was it wands? Magic wands? Is that what they called them?

What's that? Was that what they had, actual magic wands? Well, no, one person has a magic wand. I didn't see that. I missed that. What? That's the whole point of the trailer. Because they pick up like an elf girl, and they're like, this is a so-and-so. Oh. So I thought the person was a wish-granting magical creature. No,'t see that. I missed that. What? That's the whole point of the trailer. Because they pick up like an elf girl and they're like,

this is a so-and-so. So I thought the person was a wish-granting magical creature. No, I think it's the wand. I think the wand is magic. I think you're wrong. All right, we'll see. Okay, then good.

Anyway, it looks fun. But do we, we don't get any sense of the origin of these mythical creatures? No. Did they emerge suddenly or have they always been with us?

I feel like, it looks to me like they've always been there. Like it was kind of Lord of the rings-esque and then things just progressed as they kind of did for us cool yeah it is cool it is cool and it's probably a simile a parallel and whatever yeah uh it'd be nice to see something david ayer does without a massive amount of studio interference yes and if it's bad we can write him off forever also this is a 90 million dollar film hello netflix which is that ain't nothing mason precisely especially when you've got magic wands And if it's bad, we can write him off forever. Also, this is a $90 million film. Hello. For Netflix, which is, that ain't nothing, Mason.

Precisely. Especially when you've got magic wands or people or whatever it is. It's a magic wand. No, it's not. That's the MacGuffin. They got a magic wand. What are they going to do with a magic wand? Sterling, I had a question.

Any thoughts on the Bright trailer? Yes. Good. Thought it was good. Thought it was good. Thought it was good. Yeah. Will Smith doing things again.

It's weird that he'd do a Netflix film. Well, they probably gave him $10 million. That's a good it was good. Yeah. Will Smith doing things again. It's weird that he'd do a Netflix film. Well, they probably gave him $10 million. That's a good point. Yeah. Yeah. This is interesting. He probably has to... The scenery swats the fairy, and then the rest of the film, he's just in the police car. Then he doesn't move for the rest of it.

Spawn's coming back. Oh, and Todd McFarlane, creative Spawn Is directing the Spawn movie I looked at his credentials Hello Two of the things he's directed Are Korn Freak on a Leash The music video

And Korn Deuce The music video Freak on a Leash Is the one with the bullets I think I don't remember That's a classic

That's a classic Early Late 90s Or possibly 2000s Music video But there's a bullet flying all about the place. It's missing all the innocent people. The bullet it's flying about, unless I'm thinking of a different video.

This is it. I'm 100% certain it's a wand or a person. Nice. But weird choice. This could be like a Frank Miller, the spirit situation. Oh, it's definitely going to be that. Because he owns Spawn, obviously. Yes. And he sells a lot of merch for spawn yep do you think this is a guy like a creator

being like no i want this i want to have complete control if we're doing this i don't want to do a a shitty version like what's kind of done in the 90s what do we have any other details like who who's like casting or yeah oh no i mean more like who's who's paying like, yeah, I think they named a production company, but I don't know. Okay, great. I can't remember who, yeah. Amblin Entertainment would be them. Todd McFarlane, I've just looked it up, has a net worth of $300 million, so he might be paying for it himself.

Yeah, because he could chuck 40 into that. Yeah. Jeez. Yeah, right. There you go. Do you think there's a chance that this will be good? Is it the time for Spawn? It feels like it's that this will be good? Is it the time for Spawn? It's never been the time for Spawn.

I feel like there was a window, but we missed it. It was 20 years ago. Yeah, it was precisely. It was three years before the Spawn movie. It was probably the time. Yeah, it was then. Look, but I think at the same time, he knows this character better than anyone.

And if people want a 100% accurate Spawn movie, this is going to be it. Do they, though? Some people definitely probably do. Yeah. Who's a... I don't know. I don't know any Spawn fans.

I don't even hate Spawn. I have nothing against Spawn. I'm just not... He's got a lot of chains, doesn't he? Yeah. I was more of a Savage Dragon guy myself. Yeah. Wetworks.

Quillsportation. We're back there again. There we are. Shadow Yeah. Wet works. Wills Portatio. We're back there again. There we are. Shadow Hawk. Shadow Hawk. Ivan Reitman says there's... Ivan Reitman. Ivan Reitman says there's two more...

I write JL movies, but I was meant to write GB movies. Ghostbusters movies are coming. One as early as 2019. They're also doing an animated one. I'm presuming this is going to be linked to the previous universe and they're going to disregard the last one because people... Oh, really? I assume so.

Oh, we did mention that one of the things that people didn't like about the last one was that it ignored the previous continuity. Oh, yeah, sure, sure, right. Okay. So I think we're probably going to get a Jonah Hill, Channing Tatum Ghostbusters movie. Yeah, totally. Yeah, that's true. Maybe just no more Ghostbusters movie. Yeah, totally. Yeah, that's true.

Maybe just no more Ghostbusters stuff. Yep, maybe. What do you think? You're a Ghostbusters fan. Yeah, I'm a Ghostbusters fan. Boy. Yeah, thank you. Do you want to see more of them?

Yeah. Okay. Or do I? I don't know. I'm asking you. You know what? I don't care. Yes, I do.

I don't care if there's another one or not another one. Yeah. Yeah. That's the answer there. It's fine. Last thing. I don't care if there's another one or not another one. Yeah. Yeah. That's the answer there. It's fine. Last thing. I liked the first one. Yeah.

And it's, even though it's a bit problematic now, but it doesn't matter. Fegman's kind of a creep. There's that bit where he's like, don't worry. Sigourney Weaver was acting up a little bit. So I shot up with his horse tranquilizer. Like, why did you have it on you? Why'd you have Thorazine on you for a date?

What are you doing? Yeah. Does a Dan Aykroyd have sex with a ghost? Yeah. It's pretty good. It is good, isn't it? Yeah.

Why'd they leave that in? I don't know. It's out of context, isn't it? Nah. It's hot. You're right, it's hot.

He's a weird dude, isn't he? Ready Player One. We went to Will Anderson's house. Yeah, I was about to say, yeah. Look, can we say this? I don't know. Yeah, I don't think you One. We went to Will Anderson's house. Will Anderson's house, I was about to say, yeah. Look, can we say this? I don't know.

Yeah, I don't think you can. It's not a thing. So Dan Aykroyd has a side business, I mean it's his main business now. We've talked about this before. Crystal Head Vodka, where he sells his own brand of vodka and a crystal skull.

When we went there, Will Anderson was using a bottle of it as a doorstop. Yeah. Signed by Dan Aykroyd. Signed by Dan Aykroyd. Signed by Dan Aykroyd. It's weird, right? Oh, to be that famous.

To be that famous, yeah. Ready Player One. Oh, yeah. A lot of people really like this. A lot of references. To me, it looked like it could be Speed Racer. Yeah, same. Not that I've seen Speed Racer.

Yeah. And as I've said before, I haven't really liked a Spielberg movie since Minority Report. Yeah, right. Yeah, but okay. Yeah, it's got Iron Giant. It's got Speed Racer.

It's got Back to the Future Car. It's got the A-Team van. Does it? It's got... What else did I see? Next to the A-Team van is Christine, which is Stephen King's Haunted Car. That's in there. All the 80s references you know and love.

Yeah, there's a lot of references. What else? Have you read this I have a copy I've not read it okay so it's a boy from the future who goes into the internet

but he loves 80s pop culture the premise is that I believe that there's like a there's an eccentric dude and he builds a virtual world called Oasis yes

and everybody loves it and then he dies and he's like I'm gonna leave my fortune in Oasis and you've gotta find it he dies and he's like I'm going to leave my fortune in Oasis and you've got to find it in a car race in a car race

exactly or in something somebody said to me on Twitter because I threw it out there I'm like is this good for people who like this because you know

when the not the Shining the Cowboy one came out the trailer for that what's that one Dark Tower people who read the books

were like no we should put it out here again no people seem to be on board for it. Okay, great. We also see Harley Quinn and Deathstroke, I think. I thought that was... Is that actually... Yeah.

It's Deathstroke. I didn't see Harley Quinn. I guess it's Warner Brothers, so they can... It's both of them together. They walk... As he enters Oasis, they're both leaving Oasis. And you see... Is that where there's the Iron Giant as well?

Is it in that moment? No, it's like immediately as he enters. It's like a nightclub kind of looking thing. They're both walking out at the same time. Is it actually like the Harley Quinn, like Margot Robbie Harley Quinn? No, it's more like a frilly skirt Harley Quinn. It's more like one of the Arkham versions, the Arkham Knight versions. So are these characters, are these avatars that people, like skins people have?

I think so, yeah. They'd all be Harley Quinns. Exactly right, yeah. If it was real. Look, if Instagram isn't anything to go by, we'd all be Harley Quinns. We'd be Harley Quinns and Deadpools. That's what it would be.

Yeah, look, there's a lot of references in this. Isn't there? I got people requesting a trailer breakdown. I don't know enough about the world. And it's kind of one of those things where I'd kind of like to go into it not knowing anything about it I'm people requesting a trailer breakdown. I'm, I don't know enough about the world. Uh, and it's kind of one of those things where I'd kind of like to go into it. Yeah. Not knowing anything about it and having not read the book.

I think our arch nemeses over at Nerdist News have done a breakdown on it, which I'm sure contains a lot of references. Yeah, that's right. They're dead. They're dead to us. Yeah. I'm sure it's really good.

I'm sure they got a very handsome nerd. I bet they do. To talk about it. Is that it? I think so. Yeah. We must've left something out. And you know, I got a whole bunch of letters, which we'll save for letters about it. Is that it? I think so, yeah. We must have left something out. Anyway, I've got a whole bunch of letters,

which we'll save for letters on it. But in the meantime, Mason, let's do What We Reading. What we gonna read? I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? Side note, I've got ready to read Dark Days of the Casting, which is the sequel to, well it's the

it's another prequel comic to that Dark Nights Metal DC crossover that's coming up. Okay. Where they meet all the weird parallel universe Batmans that are trying to kill them all. And you're well up for it, aren't you? I'm well up for it. I actually just went to our local comic book store and they're bringing back metal covers. Like Dark the forge and dark nights metal both have metal

covers ironically dark nights and both have metal covers very well i don't know remember in the 90s when they just had to make novelty covers i read terrible comics so people would be back baby yeah mad time i saw so i've read dark days the forge was very good like it's it's pretty wild but i enjoyed it a lot yeah so I'm going to read Dark Days of the Casting so that should be pretty good pretty wild but also we both watched

Dunkirk didn't we we did did you see it in IMAX no I saw it in regular max what did you think I liked it a lot I mean it likes a strong word isn't it

well yeah I don't know maybe I was really tired but I didn't really get caught up in it the way that a lot of other people did I think I probably need to see it again it's this film is divisive tired, but I didn't really get caught up in it. Okay. The way that a lot of other people did. I think I probably need to see it again.

This film is divisive. Yeah. Look, I definitely didn't hate it. Yep. But it's not a movie. See, that's the thing. It's not a movie that I enjoy. No, of course not.

What a fun time. Yeah, not everything has to be. Mason. I'm confused by that. There was some... People were like, this was Christopher Nolan's most Christopher Nolan-y work ever. Right. Look, I think it was very...

Should we do a little bit of spoilers for this? Yeah, sure. Yeah, okay, yeah. Look, I think it was spectacularly well made. Absolutely. All the kind of dogfights he did for real with either real planes or models. Yep. And when they're getting shots like going over, like there's a boat and a plane crashed

in front of it and they get that aerial shot. Like, that's hard to do. Yeah, right. See, I felt quite invested in the characters, even if we only saw them for a little bit. But maybe you didn't. crashed in front of it and they get that aerial shot like that's hard to do yeah right see i felt quite invested in the characters even if we only saw them for a little bit but maybe you didn't me it was some of them like the the mark rylance boat i was well into yes but then the main character and i understood why he was why he was escaping and why he was doing what he was doing but he didn't have enough personality to me to make him interesting. Okay, sure, sure.

And also a lot of them had the same hair color and haircut. Yes, they really did. And there was a lot of kind of, you know, a boat would sink and then they'd break out and then they'd go. And I know these were also based on real things. Yeah. But that side of it was not as appealing to me as like the Tom Hardy stuff and the stuff on the civilian stuff.

Yeah. But man, a lot of that action was super tense. Yeah. Well, the whole thing kind of ramps up the entire way through. I don't know whether... If you're going to see it, you should probably see it now.

Like don't... I'd imagine if you were watching this on TV, it wouldn't... Would have no impact. Or less impact. Less impact, yeah. It'd be like watching Pearl Harbor on TV. Pearl Impact.

Pearl Harbor has a lot of impact. They should have called it Pearl Impact. Pearl Impact, yeah. It'd be like watching Pearl Harbor on TV. Pearl Impact. Pearl Harbor has a lot of impact. They should have called it Pearl Impact. Pearl Impact, exactly. Like knowing that it was all in like real stuff and they did it in camera is obviously impressive. But do you think if you didn't know that, you'd be like, oh, this is kind of flat. Like this plays like an old movie.

Because remember in Pearl Harbor, you'd follow the missile down and it would hit the ship and then the ship would like buckle as it kind of exploded. And I hate Pearl Harbor's ship. i think this was a deliberate throwback yes to that like a midway or midway because you know there's a there's the you know on one hand we've got you know people trying to survive on these you know transferring to and from these ships and on the other hand we've got sort of tom hardy's sort of he's on this quest yeah to stop you know this these bombers destroying the fleet and et cetera.

Yeah. I don't know. I just felt like, you know how when you watch an old movie like that, there's always like, there's always just like a sweaty pilot. Yeah. And it's always just focuses on his eyes and then he's rubbing sweat out of his eyes and then he's focused on his gun sight. Yeah.

I felt it was like, yeah. And I thought that, I thought it was very much a deliberate throwback to that sort of stuff but again like I think maybe Nolan has watched

a lot of those as a kid oh almost certainly yeah or as a middle aged man whatever he is now I don't know and then he's like I'm gonna make them

the definitive modern day version of that and I think that worked really well yeah what did you think about the time shifting well I was wondering

whether you would hate it because I was I was sitting there and as soon as it came up first of all i was like what is this yeah and then obviously clicked that because it's it's set one week before one day before one hour before yeah is that what it is he managed to work in a time shifting element into a i knew it you said it and i was like no chance there's another shoe here to drop. He's going to put in something weird. I didn't hate it, but I was largely ambivalent.

I thought it would have worked just as well as a straight ahead. I don't think you really needed it necessarily. Because people are like, oh, he's used all the skills from Memento and Inception to put it together. I'm like, I don't think he has. It wouldn't have mattered. He didn't need to do it. And it's obviously a simpler thing than Memento. It was interesting the way that the timelines kind of converged

and you saw them from different perspectives. Yeah, totally. That kind of thing. Like you said, unlike all of his films, it's technically well made in the sense it's like a fine-tuned machine, like a watch or a cog, but several cogs. Several cogs turning a frog. Cogs turning a frog. Another of our of our famous rhymes yes but i don't know

whether yeah i wasn't super invested in uh i like killian murphy actually he was he was really good yeah right right yeah yeah yeah i don't it's definitely not for everybody that's true yeah look i think it's my favorite of his since inception which is really wow okay how many movies has been a couple interstellar Interstellar, Dark Knight Rises. So, yeah. Yeah. Okay, that's fair enough. I think I'm still, of the Nolan films, I think I still like Memento and Inception more, but I enjoyed this one a lot. Yeah, I'd agree with that.

Yep. Cool. Nice. You liked it more than Interstellar? Yes. See, I'm a sci-fi guy, Mason. You love something a little bit different, don't you? Sci-fi different? No. That's an answer. Yeah. I don't know, yeah. Anyway, it's, yeah. If you're on the different, don't you? Is sci-fi different? No. That's an answer. Yeah. I don't know.

Yeah. Anyway, it's, yeah. If you're on the fence, what do you say, Mason? I say go see it. Go see it. Go see it again. Divisive, but at least, you know, it's divisive, but you might love it. Yeah.

So. I think it'll be interesting to see when it comes to Holmes. Yes. Where there'll be that thing that kind of gets another life or even it might be one of those things where they'll release it in cinemas every five years

and you're like you can only see it in the theatre look I think if you're on the fence definitely see it at the cinema alright

very intense anyway cogs and frogs do the next thing Mason the next thing is our letters but don't make a big deal of it

the classic one was letters oh letters we love you Some letters They're only a day away

I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. Yeah, you got some tweets or some letters there, Josh? I got many tweets and you have maybe some letters. I tried to make them

all related to your butt. Oh, what? Gotcha. Comic-Con. Yeah, nice. This is from Dara. Superman was all related to your butt. Oh, what? Gotcha. Comic-Con. Yeah, nice. This is from Dara. Superman was a beacon to the world.

Make up your own mind, Batman. Because it touched the thing of, if there's even a one percent jazz, there's no way to be, we have to destroy him. I guess that's something he realized after. Yeah, look, that's something I forgot to mention when we were talking about the Superman trailer. I think what they've decided to do is pretend Yeah, look, that's something I forgot to mention when we were talking about the Superman trailer.

I think what they've decided to do is pretend that Batman v Superman was a different movie than it was. It's possible. They've just gone... Because none of that movie's about that. That movie's all about... Briefly. Yeah, I mean, it's mostly Superman going, do I even want to protect any of these people

or should I fly off into space? And Batman's like, I'm going to kill him. Okay, but the get around it for me is maybe we didn't get the impression of that. Superman going, do I even want to protect any of these people or should I fly off into space? And Batman's like, I'm going to kill him. Okay. But the get around it for me is maybe we didn't get the impression of that. And I certainly didn't. But he did save the world multiple times and he did sacrifice himself. And from the person on the street, when you don't see his sad face lifting a ship, you're probably like, this guy's amazing. So unless you have a personal sad interaction with him,

you would like their view of him will be different than our view of him. That's true. Yeah. So anyway, Jeremy Franklin asked, we talk about Ben, his subject line says, Ben is totally out as Batman.

He says the rest of his appearance on the, on the panel was him going through the motions and checking and promotions box. What do you think? Is he pulling a Michael Keaton or just a Daniel Craig? Do you think this is, do you think he's got room to negotiate more yeah stuff more money definitely do you think he'd be like listen if you give me what maybe if he's like they need him more than he needs them that's true do you think he might be like hey matt reeves you give me control over my scenes in this movie or like you give me a rewrite option otherwise I'm out.

Yeah, very possible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but it'd be interesting to see how that kind of develops either way. Yeah. What do we got here? This one, Chef.

Nick Fury could potentially be a skull. A scroll? He would be a skull. Could be a skull, yeah. Discuss. Hashtag weekly planet pod. Oh, that's a good question. I think after someone's He would be a Skrull. He could be a Skrull, yeah. Discuss. Hashtag weekly planet pod. Oh, that's a good question. I think after someone's going to be a Skrull in Avengers Infinity War,

someone's going to be like, oh shit, Ant-Man was a Skrull for this last... Yeah, right, wow, okay. I think you don't write them in without later... Who do you think could be a Skrull then? Any of them. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I think they'll probably would be like they might even kill like captain america and then be like that wasn't captain america yeah right do you think it when

do you i guess that my my larger question would be at what point do you think you replace somebody with a scroll would it be would somebody be a scroll since the 90s yeah i think somebody was yeah well that's because they kind of did that with hydra as well they already did like everybody was secretly hydra that's right yeah bloody playstation yeah that's because they kind of did that with Hydra as well they already did like everybody was secretly Hydra that's right bloody PlayStation yeah

yeah maybe what do you think that's what they'll do well I think if they're going to they will on Agents of Shield yeah I think

if they're going to introduce the Skrulls in the 90s I think they've got to put in an agent from the 90s yeah maybe they have to reveal

maybe that dude from Ant-Man that henchman what's his name What's his name? What's his name? I was going to say George Michael. Michael. Luis Pena?

No, no, no. The dude who Michael, not Michael Caine. Michael Douglas cracked his head on the table. Oh, right. Sure, yeah, maybe. Turned out to be Hydra. Okay, yeah. I mean, if he's Hydra and a Skrull, is that too much?

Yeah, that's right. But not all Skrulls are evil also, are they? No. Yeah. Not all Skrulls, Mason. That's precise they? No. Yeah. Hmm. Not all Skrulls, Mason. That's precise. They're very great.

Hashtag. Yeah. Uh, I don't know. I feel you have to, I don't know. I guess they could, they could make like Hawkeye's wife a Skrull.

Oh, they have kids though. Yeah. That'd be weird. Yeah, I guess so. But did you get to replace him at, replaced at some point?

Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Someone has to be a Skrull, Mason. I agree. Who is be a Skrull, Mason. I agree. Who is it? Skrull Hunt.

But the problem also is that if you make somebody a Skrull, then you take away some of their achievements. Yes. So if you were like, okay, this person's been a Skrull since Avengers 1, then you're like, well, what have they done? The Skrull's done all the work, you know? It's a Mad-Eye Moody situation. It is, isn't it?

Do you know what I'm talking about? Not really. Mad-Eye Moody was actually David Tennant the whole movie. And then at the end you find out that he was David Tennant. And then the real Mad-Eye Moody shows up at the end and also in the next movie. What movie are we talking about? Harry Potter. All right, okay.

Good. Hey, David, here's a bit of a bloody spin-off question. Oh, yeah. This isn't, David, here's a bit of a bloody spin-off question. Oh, yeah. This is David Tennant. This isn't bloody... Is this Doctor Who related? This is Doctor Who related. Adam Beadle wants to know,

what do we think of the casting of Jodie Whittaker as Doctor Who? Fine. Me too. Thank you. Yeah. We've done this so many times, I feel, that I've developed a fable. It's called The Man Who Gets Really Mad About Cheese.

So imagine, if you will, there was a man and he really loved a particular type of cheese. Yeah, yeah. He loved it, which is fine. Could be any one of us. But then imagine he loved this particular

type of cheese so much that if you said, hey, I love that cheese too. He was like, oh yeah? Tell me all the ingredients of the cheese in order. Because that's the only way you can probably appreciate cheese

is knowing all the mighty details. You can't just enjoy it. You have to really be a prick about it. Anyway, one day he goes down to the supermarket to get his cheese.'ve changed the box changed the shape of the box and he gets real mad about it he's like i've been eating this cheese for 40 years is it the same cheese the same cheese yeah he's like i've been i'd never again i'm sick i'm sick i've been a

good what they're doing they're just it's not the same with a different box it's the same it's different it's different people like why don't you eat the cheese it's like it's not the maybe it's the same cheese it's like it's not the point it's the principle of thing now it's just people it's just the cheese company they're pandering to people who who like cheese but don't like cheese as much as i like cheese it's pandering to people who don't like cheese at all they think they'll get more people to eat cheese if they change the box it's just the bloody dairy justice warriors out there changing the shape of the cheese. It's a nightmare. That's what this is.

That's how I feel about cheese. Yeah, right? Exactly. And you might say people out there, some gooses out there might be like, no, Mesa, your metaphor doesn't hold up because this new doctor's a lady and so she might characterize this doctor as a lady with lady stuff and lady problems. And that's not what the doctor's about. So it's like if they change the recipe for the cheese. So she might characterize this doctor as a lady with lady stuff and lady problems. Sure. And that's not what the doctor's about.

Except, so it's like if they changed the recipe for the cheese, then the cheese would taste different. Sure, okay. Your metaphor falls down. Except the doctor, when the doctor dies, the doctor changes their appearance and their characterization. Like a cheese, like a different cheese. So if this bloody, if Jodie Whittaker changes the characterization of the Doctor or acts exactly the same as a previous Doctor or does whatever, that's still within the characterization of the Doctor.

Of the cheese. It's the same. Of the cheese. Yeah, of the cheese, exactly. My metaphor's falling apart. No, I agree with you. It's just a different box. Yeah, that's right.

And it will also change again. Yeah, it'll change again. In three to five years. And if, and it will also change again. Yeah. It'll change three to five years. But he, what, what he's saying is that the doctor can look like anyone and have any characterization except for a look that I don't want and a characterization that we don't know yet.

Yes. And I'm mad about it. The other thing is, and we talked about this maybe even a few years back. Yeah. We saw this coming. Yeah. You have to have seen this coming because I think my theory was

they put Capaldi in because he was older and they went, let's test the waters, let's do something different. Then they made the Master or Woman, which set the grounds for the universe that Time Lords could change sex. They did that leading up to this, clearly. Yeah, apparently they've been seeding it for ages. Yeah. Anyway, look, again, I don't watch it anymore so it's next are they

gonna change the box of the cereal yeah who cares yeah it'll be someone else again but you know it at the same time bond you're fine good great we've said that for ages yeah please do or don't I don't care yeah good stuff but yeah it the other thing is if you don't like it, there'll be another version that you do like or don't like. You know what I mean? It changes. It's in flux.

It doesn't matter. It's temporary. Yeah. God. Cheese. Yeah. Shut up about it. I didn't get your metaphor.

Should we get cheese afterwards? Yeah, let's get some cheese. This is Jeff. Bearing in mind, I like cheese more than you. How dare you? I don't like it since they changed the box yeah

Jeff says any chance oh yeah hashtag weekly planet pod to send out a tweet and also weeklyplanetpod.gmail.com send us a letter

any chance infinity war ends with the with an Avenger dying oh and they'd reveal a Skrull that's right I just got that thing so Avengers 4

is secret invasion oh yeah maybe yeah or do you think maybe they'd they'd have to do Thanos again surely reveal a Skrull. That's where I just got that thing from. So Avengers 4 is Secret Invasion. Oh yeah, maybe, yeah. Or do you think maybe they'd have to do Thanos again, surely. Do you reckon they'll defeat Thanos in this one movie?

Yes. Okay. There you go. It's very possible. There you go. This is... Wait, we talked Secret Invasion though.

Look, I reckon if they do Secret Invasion, I reckon it'll be like... Yes, exactly. It'll be fart Invasion, I reckon it'll be like... Yes, exactly. It'll be fart noise. But I think it'll be like Civil War. It'll be Secret Invasion in name only. I think it'll be regular people who are Skrulls probably.

It'll last two hours. Yeah, and one superhero will be a Skrull probably, I think. Okay, fair enough. Yeah. I don't even remember. Have I read that, Mason? Secret Invasion? Yeah, i don't remember yeah tell me if i have email i reckon you haven't yeah you're probably right uh what do we got here uh hellvore says can you take the sorting hat quiz at pottermore i did go to it once but it was like sign up and i'm like nah no okay if it was just enter your name and yep get a whatever so no

yeah i don't care what kind of frog i am uh matt sorry hell of all maybe one i do like harry porter though don't you oh dear the way we start these episodes the more likely one or both of us mentally yeah uh matt says what was the best trailer from comic-con i reckon it was for me it was ragnarok i think why is that colorful it was colorful wasn't it yeah okay fair enough yeah and it wasn't more of the same i mean it was kind of more of the same but justice league i feel was pretty spectacular and it was fun. But there was a lot of tall steel men and flames and smoke.

It's also hard to say from the stuff that we kind of... Like, do you count Avengers in that? You probably wouldn't, would you? No, I'm not going to count it. Yeah. Because I didn't see it correctly. Yeah, fair enough. Also, I wouldn't say that I disliked any of it either.

Yeah. What I did like about the Justice League trailer though is they didn't didn't reveal everything no i mean i kind of know that the final battle is going to be in an anonymous yes semi-urban wasteland yeah with fire and smoke but other than that like some of some of the rest of it could be a surprise absolutely it's in london yeah that's yeah that's right yeah some of it has egghead or whatever we said who might be Egghead yeah what if it's Egghead what if it is Egghead what would you say

is the best reveal from Comic Con if anybody has it do we say if anybody has any clues who the guy in the yeah you said that I think yeah

okay cool alright best reveal yeah I kind of like Flashpoint I think that's interesting okay yeah

I don't know if it's going to turn out well but I like it I like the idea of it if it works yeah maybe Bright I did like Bright I like it. I like the idea of it. If it works. Yeah. Maybe Bright. I did like Bright.

Yeah, Bright was good. It was a fun reveal. Yeah. Again, for a guy who doesn't pay attention to his own podcast. That's okay, Mason. Yeah. None of us do. Yeah, that's right.

All right. I'll go through a few more here. Mason, give me one second. Okay. Give me two seconds. Time's up, baby. What do you think will have a better chance of succeeding? Miles taking over as Spider-Man or Dick taking over as Bats from Dude Bro McDubbly? seconds time's up baby what do you think will have a better chance of succeeding miles taking

over as spider-man or dick taking over as bats from dude bro mcdubley oh good question who's more beloved batman or spider-man uh but it's probably spider-man probably because spider-man when you look at the sales of toys and stuff it's spider-man by a long shot. Look, I think people like Tom Holland as Spider-Man enough that I don't think they'd want to see a new version right now. No. I think if Affleck wants to quit, I think people would be much more happy to replace him with a new guy. And again, we've kind of laid the groundwork in Dark Knight Rises.

Yep. We had, you know, here's Batman retiring and here's a new guy and he's going to take up the role kind of laid the groundwork in Dark Knight Rises we had here's Batman retiring and here's a new guy and he's going to take up the role kind of thing and narratively also that Batman is also on the verge Affleck Batman is on the verge of retiring I feel so you know what

and again one aspect that I like about the DC Snyderverse is that it's moved on a little bit it's like the Arkham video game universe in the sense that it's got some history behind it and they're happy to move at least some of the things along.

We don't have to watch Bruce Wayne's parents get shot again. Exactly. But we did. I mean, I want to. Sure. Yeah. What about this one?

Yes. It's from Sesko. Would you like to see Tom Holland's Spider-Man Swing into a different Marvel property Netflix included Like Tony Stark did Oh I'd like to see him in maybe the Defenders season 2 I'd love to see Daredevil's Spider-Man

That would be great That would be very good right Won't happen No Though I heard this week that Ike Perlmutter stood down as Not this week but Ike Perlmutter's gone I think he just changed his job title. Yeah, okay.

So I think he's still the same guy. Still the same old crank. That's the reason why they don't cross over, because he separates the properties. Is that the thing? Yeah, that's the idea. Because he's so private, we don't know anything about him either. Okay.

Yeah, Daredevil or Spider-Man would be really good. What about this? I do think trailers are getting worse. Justice League Ready Player One Inhumans, just really sloppy from David McNeil. Probably showing more. Yeah, they're definitely showing more. Yeah.

Enough worse. Because if you remember trailers as they used to be, they're not good. I think they've deviated. I think there was a sweet spot a couple of years ago, and I think they've deviated from that. But I think we're still well within the safe zone as opposed to like trailers from like the 90s and earlier and no good yeah

absolutely again i always point to except for godzilla which is a great yeah that's incredible but i think my i always point to the 1989 batman trailer which as a kid i was amazed by and so one day i'm like i'm gonna go back and rewatch that. I bet it's real cool. It's terrible. Yeah. It's so clunky and jarring. Sound cuts in and out.

Sound cuts in and out. It's no good. It reveals too much. Yeah. I don't understand why I liked it. Because you're a kid? Because I was a kid and Batman looked like he was real. Yeah.

That's why. From John, do you think the Avengers tower will become Oscorp? No. I think, yeah, very much a possibility. Because they moved out of it and Oscorp is now in the universe. That's a good point.

Yeah. There was someone else or somebody mentioned it could be. It could be Fantastic Four, but it's probably not happening. Yeah. Could be any number of buildings. Could become a bloody UPS building. It absolutely could. This is from Matthew Buckley. Do you think Stranger Things really needed a season two?

Interested to hear your thoughts. Maybe not. I mean, we'll know when it comes out. I was going to say, we'll know when it comes out. Yeah. I think we'll know,

I think we'll know within about three or four episodes whether they needed to make a sequel. Like if it's just more of the same. Yeah. If it's the same

build up and the same, I don't know. You know what I mean? All of those things. All of those things. Yeah. If it's the same build up and the same, I don't know. You know what I mean? All of those things. All those things. Yeah. You know what I mean? Some Jason says,

do you reckon that we'll see Thanos be a threat without the gauntlet? Also, if it isn't Supes, who else do you think it'll be? Oh,

that's from the Justice League. Oh, yes. We talked about that. But do you think we'll see Thanos be dangerous without it? Oh, yeah. I think we have to.

Yeah. I mean, the fact that his daughters are both stunt cold killers. Yeah. I mean, the fact that his daughters are both Stunt Cold Killers. Yeah. And also the fact that he can even wield them, all of them at once. All of them together, exactly, yeah. Means that he's of immense power.

And again, one thing I love about the Ragnarok trailer is that on Earth, Thor and Loki are to some degree unstoppable. But in space, they're just a couple of dudes who can be captured in nets yes thrown around kind of thing like i like that in space it's a whole new like it's a it's like an exponential jump yes strength levels and i think that thanos is the top of the pile in that sense like he's this gigantic dude who can wield the infinity gauntlet because he's just that tough that's right i think you know i think i'm sure he can take most of them i would say the guardians and the avengers probably single-handedly even without the gauntlet probably he could probably take hulk couldn't he

he has before yeah probably yeah he's probably not stronger but he's got everything else going for him yes exactly that chin. That chin. Great chin. One of the best. This is unrelated, but what are your musical tastes? What are your opinions on Melbourne natives 12-foot ninja? You familiar with them? I'm aware of the name. I'm sure I've heard them on like PBS or whatever, but.

Funny story, Mason. A friend of mine, Andrew, who you might know. Maybe. Not insensitive Dave. Can you be more specific about the channel? We lived up north together. He's a teacher. He's now a cop.

Oh, yeah. He's got that great hair. Yeah, he's got great hair. He cut his hair, actually. Oh, what? Because he's a cop. Yeah. His sister dates the lead singer of 12-1-1.

There you go. That's great. It's just something for you to know. Yeah. Yeah. Look, I'm way behind in... I'm out. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm out. But I've decided to make a list of like any time I hear like an artist that I like I'm gonna I'm gonna write it down you write it down

write it down good Royal Blood they're a good band I think they're from Melbourne you know my friend Andrew's

sister Andrew's sister yes is dating the lead singer of Creed wow I'm real tired

I need to stop nice how much do we have to pay to have Maceo shave his beard from Warren okay this is just kidding The lead singer of Creed. Wow. I'm real tired. I need to stop. Nice, nice. How much do we have to pay to have Meso shave his beard? From Warren. Okay, this is just kidding. For what was that last part? This is from Warren. I haven't gone through my list of music.

Oh, sorry. I'll just go through Shazam. Did you know people can follow you on a Shazam? Yeah, I don't like that. I don't understand who it is though because I've never put out my Shazam. I don't even know how to tell people I have a Shazam. Yeah.

But I have like a thousand followers. Are they just bots? They'd be bots, wouldn't they? They'd have to be. Yeah. Maybe. No, not necessarily. Montaigne?

She's a singer that I like. Don't know her. Vera Blue. Don't know her. London Grammar. Don't know her. Good groups. Anyway.

Yeah. I'm cool. I'm a cool cat. You seem real cool. I'm not cool. You give up things as you get older, Mason. Yeah, it's true. I was giving up my freedom.

But I feel I should get back into it. No. People tell me about good bands. I'd like to hear about it. Tag James in as well. We're both going to become cool dudes. No, I'm not. I'm not listening to any music ever.

I'm out. I retire from music. That'll do it, Mason. Okay, we did it. I hope you had a good show. I did have a good show. Good. Let's all listen to you say the last thing.

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For someone who'd like to trick some of our listeners. Yeah. Yeah. That's everything. Yep. I think it is, yeah. All right, cool. Next week, I don't know what we're doing.

Maybe something apes related because that's finally coming out here. We'll figure something we've got some stuff lined up yeah we do alright thanks Mason grab that jam you guys

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