The Weekly Planet - 203 Biggest/Most Insane Movie Feuds

Episode Date: September 18, 2017

This week James is still away so we pre-recorded this episode on insane movie feuds. It’s fun I guess.I don’t really remember it was a few weeks ago. Thanks for listening!It Deleted Scenes: h...ttps://goo.gl/776H2M3:06 News!7:08 Great Movie Feuds1:08:42 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:13:42 Letters It’s Time For LettersAmazon affiliate link: https://amzn.to/2nhShTMThe Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind out T-Shirts here: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:11 where we talk movies, comics, TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me is always my co-host, Nick Mason. It's me. Yeah. This is an episode. It is an episode. It's a very special episode, Mason.
Starting point is 00:01:21 What? How so? Because there's no news. Well, look, because this is being filmed outside of time and space. Correct. Because you're in America right now. And recorded, not filmed. I mean, audio. It's an audio medium. That's what I meant.
Starting point is 00:01:34 I meant audio filmed. Okay. Sorry. I get you. I'm an old school kind of guy. Sure. Yeah. You used to say old audio filmed back in the day.
Starting point is 00:01:41 I was going to say, so we don't know what the news is right now. No. But here's a little piece of news. Okay news that I just saw on the way here. So this is way dated. This is way dated, but I thought it was. But I think perhaps a lot of people probably missed this one. Sure. But I feel it's also evergreen news.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Is it Ben Affleck is in or out as Batman? Well, that's number one. Who knows? He's Schrodinger's Batman. Yes. At any given time, he could be in or out of being Batman or directing Batman or he's dead in a box. That's Ben Affleck for you.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Terry Pratchett's unfinished novels destroyed by steamroller. What? So Terry Pratchett's hard drive. Yeah. Like when he died, he had some unfinished work on a hard drive. And at the Great Dorset Steam Fair, ahead of the opening of a new exhibition about his life and work, they put it under a steamroller and crushed it as was his final wishes. Oh, it wasn't an accident.
Starting point is 00:02:38 No, it wasn't an accident. What a weird set of circumstances. How did, like, somebody would have had to take the hard drive out and they're like, well, I'll just put it in my bag for safekeeping. I thought it was like a house demolition or something. Oh, yeah. A hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy style. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Maybe. You're a fan of his work? Yeah, definitely. You're a fan of his destroyed work? Yeah. Do you reckon there's any chance this is going to get out eventually? Like, surely there's another copy. Somebody would have made one. See, that's what my assumption would be? Yeah. Do you reckon there's any chance this is going to get out eventually? Like, surely there's another copy. Somebody would have made one.
Starting point is 00:03:06 See, that's what my assumption would be. Yeah. That's before they were like, before they were like, here's the ceremonial, here's the hard drive, we're going to put it in front of the steamroller. I reckon somebody would have been like,
Starting point is 00:03:16 I've just got to go to the bathroom, I'll be back in two minutes. And they've run out and they've plugged it into a laptop. Or they've done the old switcheroo. Done the old switcheroo. The Ocean's 12 Fabergé egg switcheroo. Let's not get vulgar and talk about Ocean's 12, all right, mate?
Starting point is 00:03:29 But Neil Gaiman, close friend and collaborator, because they did that book Good Omens, which is a delight, told the Times that Pratchett had wanted whatever he was working on at the time of his death to be taken out along with his computers to be put in the middle of a road and for a steamroller to steamroll over them all. I love that. It's pretty good, right?
Starting point is 00:03:44 Because a lot of the Times, they do release release authors unfinished work and it's no good and it would have been something that they might have been like a first draft and yeah yeah they'll get like alan dean foster to finish it yeah exactly somebody i don't know he knows what he's doing and then sometimes you you i can't think of a good one. Michael Crichton's new book. How'd that go? I haven't read it. I think it's about dragons. It's called Dragon Teeth. Yes, it's called Imagine Dragons. I'm going to write review and see what bloody comes up.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Okay. Dragon Teeth. See what they've done? They've just put a dinosaur skull on the cover. Nice, good cover. That'll do it. And that will get people to be like, oh, my God, Michael Crichton's back with that. See what they've done. They've just put a dinosaur skull on the cover. Nice, good cover. That'll do it. And that will get people to be like,
Starting point is 00:04:28 oh my God, Michael Crichton's back with that. Oh, it's got a 3.8 on Goodreads. Oh. So that sounds like a Goodreads. That's better than average. Yes. Well, people on Goodreads are notoriously critical, I feel. Are they? Because they're book snobs.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Exactly, they're book snobs. We are lucky you cannot review The Weekly Planet on Goodreads because we would get crushed for our pronunciation, if nothing else. Yeah. Anyway, I feel that's right up there with Hunter S. Thompson's ashes being shot out of a cannon. Right, yeah. Didn't somebody snort them as well?
Starting point is 00:04:56 It's probably Johnny Depp. Or Nicolas Cage. Yeah. Yeah, fair enough. Anyway, that's a bit of news. They met in the middle. It was like Lady and the Tramp with his ashes. That's right. All right. I think in the middle. It was like Lady and the Tramp with his ashes.
Starting point is 00:05:06 All right. I think we need to move our mics back a little bit because I'm hearing popping on both ends. Yeah, there we go. Speaking of popping on both ends, Johnny Depp and Buddy. Oh, they're popping on both ends. Very good, Mason. Very good. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:05:19 So this is going to be a topic episode and some letters. You thought of a fantastic topic. Yes, because- It's the best topic. Because last week some letters. You thought of a fantastic topic. Yes, because- It's the best topic. Because last week or several weeks ago or in the future, I think somebody mentioned about feuds on this podcast and then I couldn't get it in my head. What are the best feuds in Hollywood?
Starting point is 00:05:37 Hollywood feuds. Like these are on-set movie feuds we're talking about? Yeah, I think so, yeah. So not characters. Yeah, not like, wow, Vin Diesel and The Rock really went at it in that movie. Boy, this Batman and this Joker character. But they do, behind the scenes. That's true, Batman and this Joker character, they don't care for each other.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Why don't they kiss and make up? But yeah, like behind the scenes, which I feel is very enjoyable. Exactly. We've got a list. Oh, very good. We've got a list also. There's some ones here that I didn't know about and some very famous ones. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Do you want to start with the DC one? Yeah, go ahead. Batman Forever. Oh, yes. I love this one. There's a couple that kind of come out of this. Do you know which one I'm talking about specifically? I'm hoping it is Jim Carrey and Tommy Lee Jones.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Do you want to explain it? So, hang on. I'll bring it up. I haven't thought about that one in a while, but I'll... I've got the exact wording. Okay, go ahead. I can do it if you want. Yeah, please do.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Sure. So basically they met at a restaurant before filming started. For those people who don't know, two places played by... Sorry, two places played by... Tommy Lee Jones. Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carrey as the Riddler. And they're both just very... Not good performances, I I would say on the whole
Starting point is 00:06:45 he just kind of Ace Ventura's it and Tommy Lee Jones does a worse version of Jack Nicholson's Joker for his kids I did yeah he did yeah has he ever done anything that ridiculous before or since I guess if you could you could count Men in Black but he's a very stoic kind of character yeah exactly that's true I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't put that in there. Can you think of anything? Like he didn't do like movie 43 or whatever. No. Yeah, exactly. And he's been mostly because he seems like I feel he would do well in like a police squad,
Starting point is 00:07:17 naked gun, airplane kind of situation. Like he's a guy who plays it so deadpan all the time that I feel if lunacy were happening around him, that would be great. Well, that's how Leslie Nielsen started. Like, he was a serious actor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was it Airplane, the first one he did, that was the tongue-in-cheek?
Starting point is 00:07:36 I think so, yeah. I think it was. I think so, yeah. Yeah, yeah, fair enough. Great. But no, I'm just looking at, like, the list of roles here, and no, it's all two-faced. It's got to be.
Starting point is 00:07:48 And that makeup even, because he's scarred, but he's got the exact, it's in the middle of his face. Yeah, right. Anyway, the feud was Tommy Lee Jones hates Jim Carrey, so Jim Carrey went up to him in a restaurant before filming, and he said, the blood drained from Tommy Lee Jones's face in such a way that I realized that he was in pain or something. And he got up, kind of shaking, hugged me and said, I hate you.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I really don't like you. And I was like, wow, okay, what's going on, man? And he said, I cannot sanction your buffoonery. That's amazing, right? this is this is this is during filming i believe i was during filming before it says the night before a big scene so they were in the midst of filming and they both are like like imagine you're tommy lee jones and you you just do like you're doing your u.s marsh, you're doing your whatever baseball movie he was probably in. You're doing all these serious roles where you're like an old sheriff,
Starting point is 00:08:51 you're just trying to- He loves being an old sheriff. Then all of a sudden you're being thrown into this technicolor cartoon world where there are like weird glowing skeleton cars driving up buildings and everybody's wearing weird. You've just been unsewn from your leopard print suit and you've spent four hours getting your makeup put on and four hours getting your makeup taken off
Starting point is 00:09:17 and then you've done a 12-hour day or whatever. Yeah. And you're like, finally, I'm getting away from this. Getting away from it. I'm going to go out with my family. I'm going to have a nice and my favorite quiet restaurant. Enough of this buffoonery. He's not a guy who goes like, I'm going to go to the Chateau Marmont
Starting point is 00:09:32 and I'm going to be there and everybody's going to see me. He just wants a well-done steak. He wants a well-done steak and a milk and he gets out and he goes to a quiet little restaurant. He's like, ah, and they know him and they're like, the usual Mr. Tommy Lee Jones. And he's like, yes, please. And he just sits down and then all of a quiet little restaurant he's like ah they know him and they're like the usual mr mr tommy lee jones and he's like yes please yeah and he's like and he just sits down and then all of a sudden he hears honka honka whatever you know and he probably just rub a band of a man yeah just rolls and he's probably yeah he's probably wearing a t-shirt that says ask me about being
Starting point is 00:10:01 the riddler in batman forever or something do you say ask me about yeah i'll probably ask me about being the Riddler in Batman Forever or something. Did you say ask me about? Yeah, probably ask me about, yeah. Oh, you know what it is? They probably, at that point in his career, Jim Carrey was probably what would happen is the doors of the restaurant would open and like the back end of a bull would roll in on wheels and then he would emerge from it, pet detective style, and fireworks would go off. How good would that be?
Starting point is 00:10:25 Do you think that's a cruel thing to say to a person? I cannot sanction your buffoonery. Yeah, like just say, hey, man, good to see you. Like, do you have to hate him that much? I guess it depends how far into filming it was. Yeah. It was also peak Jim Carrey at this time. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:10:41 That's right. There's never been so much Jim Carrey in the world. And this would have been also, they're like, okay, you're known for Ace Ventura. The Mask. The Mask. This is a superhero movie and you're a super villain. We need you to ramp it all the way up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:58 And this is probably like, he's probably gets in a character like 6am and he's in it the whole day. Yeah. He gets in his spandex and he's screaming at himself in a mirror to get himself hyped up. Anyway, I like that a lot. It's not so much a feud, it's more one guy hates another guy. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:11:15 I wonder if they've mended. I don't think they have. Because Jim Carrey's a serious actor now. He is, yeah. But I don't think they. Something's going on with him. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he seems like there's some, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:11:25 there's some deep, dark thoughts in that man's head. That's true, but I mean, he was the biggest actor in the world for some time. And there was a moment where he was, you know, people took him seriously as a serious actor. I would say people still do now. But, you know, like the Truman Show, people were like, wow, this guy's really...
Starting point is 00:11:43 That's true. He's got some range. Have you seen Me, Myself, and Irene? No. I don't like it. Okay. Great. Yep.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Got another one? Let's have – this is a TV one. Okay. And I do not watch the show. Right. But it fascinates me. So did you ever watch this TV series, The Good Wife? I know what it is, but, yeah, it's got the guy from sex in the city and the good wife yeah so doesn't he go to jail
Starting point is 00:12:13 and then she has to be a lawyer or he's a lawyer or something i don't know we've got juliana margulies right he plays an attorney right and then we've got a woman working as her investigator so that's archie punjabi right right and they're best friends until uh like the end of season two um one sleeps with the other one's husband like this is the big reveal and so they're like they have this big falling out on on screen this is much bloody drama behind the scenes is bloody on screen i know right well that's that's on Oh, that was on screen. That was on screen. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:12:47 That was on screen. So that's explicable, right? Right. Okay. So that makes sense. But then the two characters make up. Yeah. On screen.
Starting point is 00:12:55 But then the actors, until Punjabi leaves the series. Yeah. The two characters don't share a scene again for 51 episodes. How is that possible? Well, they're just on the phone with each other these two best friends every interaction they have is on the phone why well that's the thing okay so i look because it recently came up like eventually this was when the when the actor departed from the show they into they they actually i do they do have one scene together. It's right at the,
Starting point is 00:13:26 like their final scene together. Yeah. They're at a bar, sitting next to each other at a bar, but it's filmed in green screen. So they don't actually sit together. You're getting paid. I don't understand how you could hate somebody that much.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Yeah, right. Exactly. But I guess, forced to work with them every day. I guess. Yeah, but not even 51 episodes that's a long time so anyway here's the so there was like a television critics association like interview series sure and uh punjabi was there and somebody said somebody asked why did you stop
Starting point is 00:13:59 sharing uh scenes together and why on that last episode were you like you know on a green screen together yeah like what was what was the reason why why were you why do you spend so much time in this whole series not sharing the scene even though it makes no sense that your character is supposed to be you know best friends and then they're not friends and then they're friends again yeah and she's like i love playing the role i had such a good time on it and it's a role that's very special to me i'm so thrilled to be on another show. I think it's, in terms of anything that happened on The Good Wife, I think it's only respectful for it to stay on The Good Wife.
Starting point is 00:14:31 It was time for me, for many reasons, to unzip the boots and step into another show. But I can tell you, for those of you who missed the boots, I do wear a pair of knee-high boots on Blindspot. That's the next series she went to. That's not an answer. It's not an answer, right? Yeah. And apparently there was like an audible sigh like from everybody in the room so we'll never know yeah because that's the code of the good wife what stays in the good wife
Starting point is 00:14:55 yeah what happens in the glass asked about it by us weekly yeah uh they said again green screen technology what's going why couldn't you just be in the same room don't talk about boots you know i can't answer that it's not fair to me for me to answer those decisions as much as i want to but those decisions are made by the producers i'm not privy to those decisions all i know is i'm very grateful to the kings the producers for making the decision to cast me okay yeah diplomatic it's very diplomatic right yeah it's it's a weird way of trying to kind of saying it wouldn't you just go yeah i just i can't yeah that's that's what i would say i don't know but i mean to be like hey why why can't why did you film this on green screen yeah can't answer it they didn't tell me why yeah exactly they didn't yeah are you saying a there's
Starting point is 00:15:42 no feud and b you have literally no curiosity about that? That's pretty great, right? I want to see that scene and see whether it actually looks like green screen. I watched it. It's very convincing. Did people know about this at the time? Were people watching it suddenly realised
Starting point is 00:16:00 that these guys were never on the same? Was it a slow realisation? It's been 10 episodes and they haven't been in the same room. Look, I think fans of the show, how long do you think it would have taken you? I think I probably never would have picked up on it. Probably not, no. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Well, also, I didn't watch it, so I don't know. It's true, yeah. I don't know how good a friend, I guess they're best friends, I guess. I think I would be constantly waiting for them to, like, meet up again in a scene. Right, yeah. Like, I guess it's sort of like Game of Thrones style, where there's one character on one continent,
Starting point is 00:16:29 another character on the other continent, and you're like, well, they're going to meet back up. And they're on the phone to each other. Exactly. You're like, well, they're going to meet up eventually. It's weird because it's not Game of Thrones. It's not Game of Thrones. They probably all work in the same office or something.
Starting point is 00:16:41 It's a different show, precisely. That's bizarre. Probably all working in the same office or something. It's a different show, precisely. Oh, that's bizarre. You've obviously heard about the Michael Bay feud with Megan Fox. Yes. Which wasn't so much of a feud, but she was talking about what it was like to work with him on set. And she said, he's like Napoleon and he wants to create this insane, infamous madman reputation.
Starting point is 00:17:00 He wants to be like Hitler on his set. Oh, boy. And he is. A Hitler that makes you wash his car. That's right. So he's a nightmare to work with. He's Napoleon and he wants to create blah, on his set. Oh, boy. And he is. A Hitler that makes you wash his car. That's right. So he's a nightmare to work with. He's Napoleon and he wants to create blah, blah, blah, whatever. He said that.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Oh, no, I said that already. So basically Spielberg said you should fire her right now for saying that. And he did. Well. Well, she wasn't in three. Yeah. Yeah, so. Wait, so but what's the, do we have Spielberg saying,
Starting point is 00:17:27 who said that Spielberg said that? Because that seems very, I wouldn't say it's unspielberg-y. Yeah. But it feels like it's against Steven Spielberg's public persona to be like, somebody said something mean about you, fire them. Yeah, but I guess to him, like a hot, like his button is calling someone a Nazi. Oh, well, yeah. So I'd imagine if, you know, if that's like you said, if that's, if that's even true,
Starting point is 00:17:52 but we, even if he didn't say that, she didn't come back. That's true. She wasn't, there was the other Megan Fox. And then she was, that one was replaced by a third Megan Fox. Yeah. Who was then replaced by another Megan Fox. How many Megan Foxes? Okay. There was Megan Fox. Yep. There was then replaced by another Megan Fox. Wait, how many Megan Foxes are there? Okay, there was Megan Fox.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Yep. There was Rosie Huntington- Rosie Huntington-Whiteley. Brittley. Then there was the one who was 17 or whatever. Oh, I forgot about that one. Yeah, okay. And the last one was the British Megan Fox.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they've all got, they're all just golden, glistening. Why is everyone so glistening in those films? It's very upsetting. Isn't it though? Yeah. So yeah, I guess that's not so much of, I mean, I've heard that before, like Michael
Starting point is 00:18:31 Bay sets are just like controlled chaos. It's just, you know, it's madness and it's like a thousand degrees because they're shooting in the heat and whatnot. Yeah. You know, David O. Russell apparently fights with everybody. He fist fights in some cases, right? George Clooney. He had a heated argument.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Yes. Clooney told him to calm down and they started yelling at each other and Clooney pinned him against the wall and there was a tussle. I want to see that footage. Yeah, me too. Because a tussle's never dignified. Have you ever seen like a real fight in the street? Yeah, they're never any good, are they?
Starting point is 00:19:01 It's guys like pulling shirts over each other's heads and rolling around. And and it's a lot of our friends over at auntie don't have a sketch i think it's probably on youtube it's called the men who fight like kangaroos yeah yes yeah and it's it's quite like that there's a lot of there's just there's some scuffling and then the people go back to their own corners yeah and then they sling some insults and there's and there's a guy who's like it's not worth it mate it's not worth it there's a guy who's like, it's not worth it, mate. It's not worth it. There's a lot of that. Exactly. There's one of those in the kangaroo kingdom as well. Yeah, that's it. So, but the most famous one, which was the audio was leaked, was him and what was her
Starting point is 00:19:34 name? I can't remember. I don't have a name. Hang on. Let me find this out just quickly. I was going to say, like if Clooney pinned him up against a wall, who's this guy that is starting fights with people and then he can't back it up, right?
Starting point is 00:19:51 You know what I mean? Yeah. Or is he one of those guys, you know, there's always somebody who's always, they're all full of attitude because they've never been in a fight? Right, yeah. You know those guys? I mean, that's what he is.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I know a guy like that who, I used to work with McDonald's and he does finance now. He does finance or something. So he's a psychopath. At the time he was, like we never had a problem. We got along really well, but he was really fiery, right? Constantly. Like you'd go out and you'd always be like, this guy's going to get us all beat up kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Anyway, what eventually happened years later, I found it because a friend of mine ran into him he's completely mellowed because what happened he he did it to a guy in in the street a guy he didn't know and the guy like kicked the shit out of him like put him in hospital gave me old david o russell yeah like broke his face wow like really messed him up and so his face it's fine now okay it seems to be but so he's just the opposite of that now he's like i was an idiot and i shouldn't have right whatever so how's that other guy though it's probably spoiling for another fight he probably broke his foot kicking this guy's head in i'd imagine so yeah so i'd say don't start fights with people i guess but anyway so sorry it was uh lily tomlin and you can find this on set. This is, you can see that, I'll read the rant out.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Please. There's a C-bomb in it, which I'll avoid. But yeah, there's some language in this. I'm just trying to fucking help you. You understand me? This is David O. Russell. This is David O. Russell screaming at her. I'm just being a fucking collaborator.
Starting point is 00:21:19 I'm trying to help you figure out the fucking picture, okay, bitch? I'm not here to be fucking yelled at. I haven't been working on this thing for three fucking years to have some fucking c-bomb yell at me in front of the crew i'm trying to help you i'm trying to help you bitch oh boy so that you can find that but the best part of that story is if mike babiglia's i think it's his last stand-up special he hosted some awards show and he was to present uh O. Russell with an award. And he said, in the immortal words of David O. Russell, and he read that exact quote with David O. Russell in the audience. And the quote from David O. Russell was like, oh, you know, what are you going to do? It's all good fun or whatever.
Starting point is 00:21:56 You have to laugh at your mistakes. But in this comedy special, apparently he left. Good. And he wasn't going to come back. Yeah, good. It was furious that that he that he brought this up but uh but eventually he kind of came around that's i'm just trying to have we're just having a bit of fun what does he think this is that's madness yeah so if you're constantly i
Starting point is 00:22:17 guess my one of my questions is because oftentimes you know the the director brings his own crew like it's his cinematographer and his producers and whatever. What are they doing? Like if he's constantly doing this, are they all like, do they see him fire up and they're like, oh, time to get a coffee. Yeah. Off we go.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Yeah, I don't know. I guess maybe you're just used to it. I mean, it's a job, isn't it? Yeah. Like if you're David O. Russell's cinematographer, then that's, you know know you don't really want to lose that gig do you that's true
Starting point is 00:22:47 yeah I don't know I think you I think you should be able to yell at actors I think that's fine you know about the Kevin Smith
Starting point is 00:22:56 Bruce Willis I was going to say I just I just remembered this so I found it in a 2003 Vanity Fair profile
Starting point is 00:23:03 of the actor George Clooney yeah Russell contributed the actor, George Clooney, Russell contributed to the piece, George Clooney can suck my dick. Was that just the very end? Sorry? Yeah, it's right at the end. That's great. Yeah, pretty good.
Starting point is 00:23:23 At some point you have to acknowledge that you're the problem. Right, yeah. Like surely, I mean, imagine he's like, every day he comes home from work or whatever to his wife or he talks to his co-workers or he talks to another director and he's like, man, don't you hate it when George Clooney gives you some lips so you've got to hustle, you've got to tussle with him on set, then he flings you up against the wall. What do you reckon about that, Steven Soderbergh director of the oceans movies and he's like what no we had
Starting point is 00:23:49 a really good time it was a fun set fun set yeah the little guy was always doing acrobatic stuff on things oceans 12 was such a fun movie to make we made a not good movie that's right we still made it because it was so much fun yeah you're right i guess i but you know these people i guess have that they've got a singular vision that they kind of want to stick to. In an interview after the Lily Tomlin thing, Tomlin said she loves Russell, adding he was under a tremendous amount of pressure. Russell said the two love each other and we would work together tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Bet they wouldn't. They've never done it again, I would imagine. Yeah. Good Lord. You were going to say Kevin Smith. Yeah, Kevin Smith tells a story. You can look this up where he just openly bad-mouths Bruce Willis. But apparently he is a prick to work with.
Starting point is 00:24:37 He recently got fired from a Woody Allen film because he just didn't. You see his lack of caring in film. Oh, sure, yeah. You see his lack of caring in film. Oh, sure, yeah. You really do. And Cop Out is a prime example. That's the blandest movie ever made. But I don't think he could have saved that. You think it was just boring regardless?
Starting point is 00:24:54 Put anybody else in that role. Yeah, now look, even somebody, that movie is set in Brooklyn and it starts with the Beastie Boys, No Sleep Till Brooklyn. Good, great. No, but that's the most uninspired song choice you could possibly. Sure, that's fair.
Starting point is 00:25:14 But also he was apparently tearing pages out of scripts and being like, nah, we won't film this. We won't film this. It's pointless. He called it like chuffer or something like that. What did he call it? Chuffer or something like that. Is that a term? It's a term that he may have coined but it's just stuff where he's
Starting point is 00:25:29 like nah this is just stuff we don't need in this film that i'm an actor in so i'm just gonna make the call that i'm just i'm just not gonna do it see i've always i've always been on the fence about about this one because again i like bruce willis i feel is famous for phoning in the last 10 years of his career. Yep, yep. Just retire, man. Come on. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:25:47 Yeah, sure, yeah. But at the same time, I feel like maybe Cop Out was the one that broke him in a way. Because it's so bad. Have you seen it? Yeah, I have seen it. It's one of the movies that – it's a movie where I had the realisation you don't have to watch every movie till the end. Did you actually stop it? Yeah, I was like – because every other have to watch every movie till the end. Did you actually stop it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:05 I was like, because every other movie I've just watched till the end. And for this one, I watched it for about 45 minutes. And then I realized it's supposed to be a comedy, but I haven't laughed at any point. That's a bit like Tracy Morgan punches a kid in the dick. Yeah, still not funny. But then I'm like, well, I'll just, what I'll do is I'll just watch it at double speed just so I can figure,
Starting point is 00:26:24 I can see how the plot unfolds. I did that for about another 10 minutes and I'm like, well, I'll just, what I'll do is I'll just watch it at double speed just so I can figure, I can see how the plot unfolds. And I did that for about another 10 minutes and I'm like, what am I doing? Who cares? Like there's never going to be a scenario in which it's going to be imperative that I know what the plot of Cop Out was. Well, now it is.
Starting point is 00:26:37 This is that moment. Yeah, I know, right? How did it end? It was about a baseball card. Yeah, it was about a collectible baseball card. Doesn't he get shot through the baseball card at the end? I don't know because I didn't see it. I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Because he has to. I don't think it's that bad. Look, it's not good. Have you seen it though? Yeah. It's just very bland. But that's worse than a bad movie. Yeah, it is in a way.
Starting point is 00:26:55 If it was spectacularly bad, I would forgive it. Yeah, that's probably true. But it's just so. It's a very generic cop film. And there's a moment in it where the bad guy gets the drop on- Is it the train? Yeah, there's a scene on the train where the bad guys get the drop on Bruce Willis because he's not even- or one of them,
Starting point is 00:27:16 because they're not even basically competent at being cops. Because doesn't he drop his gun and Bruce Willis looks down? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like- Retrocious. He would have been a cop for like 30 years yeah well maybe he was just a cop that didn't care anymore that's maybe Bruce Willis method acting he was just a drop my gun who cares I think this film though really like that was a turning point
Starting point is 00:27:37 for Kevin Smith because he also hates that film yeah and he was like you know what I could because that movie still made money right and he got offered a lot of stuff on the back of it because it was competently enough made where you're like yeah you can make a movie that brett ratner makes like because it's that kind of film yeah absolutely that's true yeah and he went and he went the other way and went you know what i'm just going to make things that i want to make my own ideas you know i guess it's no less entertaining like a brett ratner cop well that's what i mean that's what saying, yeah. But I guess maybe I went in expecting it to be something. Something. And it was nothing.
Starting point is 00:28:07 It was absolutely nothing. But I suggest people look up that story because the other thing is you don't often see directors or anybody in Hollywood just openly bad-mouthing someone and not backing down. That's true, yeah. I think that's incredible. It's on his special, like, I'm 40 and I'm fat or whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:25 What's that one called? I think that's what it's called. Okay, great. Yeah, that's he sort of, I think it's on his special, like, I'm 40 and I'm fat or whatever. What's that one called? I think that's what it's called. Okay, great. Yeah, that's he sort of, I think it's on YouTube. Right, yeah, yeah. Great. I like it a lot. Nice.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I barely remember it. Apparently Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams hated each other on The Notebook. What were they in together? The Notebook. Oh, yeah, okay. Because it's weird because they're in love in that film. It's true, but they're not in love in real life. It's all green screen.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Wow. And puppets. That's incredible. Wow, that's how good they are at acting. That's exactly it. And I think they dated anyway afterwards. They kind of- Well, that might explain it too.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Fixed it all up. You got another one, Mason? Okay, this is outside of our wheelhouse, but I think it's- Is it another good wife one? Because that's very outside of our- Yeah, very outside of our- Now, this one, it just, I just find the pairing odd. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Björk and Lars von Trier. Lars von Trier of Nymphomaniac fan and wacky musician Björk. Björk was in a movie called Dancer in the Dark where she was an immigrant worker and she was saving money because her son needed an eye operation, but she was also going blind. Like everybody in the family was going blind and it was real depressing. Yeah, anyway, so-
Starting point is 00:29:35 Did everybody have a degenerative eye disease in the family? I think that's Eastern Europe for you. Okay, right. Yeah, exactly. But I like it. Like Bjork was just not- Like it's the film- She's starring in the film,
Starting point is 00:29:47 but someday she's just not showing up at work. She spat on him at one point. That I like it. Like Bjork was just not, like it's her, it's the film. She's starring in the film, but someday she's just not showing up at work. She spat on him at one point. That's not cool. And one point she said, never work with a Dane because he will eat your soul. Never work with a Dane. A Dane because he's Danish. Oh, right. Not a great Dane.
Starting point is 00:30:00 I'm like, yeah, I'm thinking Dane Dahan. What are we talking about? Don't work with a Dane, Judi Dench. Yeah, sure. Don't work with a Dane Edna. No, definitely not. Deceptive. Oh, wow. Lars von Trier responded by also skipping days at work.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Yeah. The director of the film. Yeah, well, why not? Just not showing up, you know? Pretty good, right? I love it. I didn't even know she was... Of course, she's an actor.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Well, that's her one film. Oh, is it? Yeah. But I just like the idea of two real weirdos. Yeah two real you think they'd get along yeah right they could you know what they should have got a different weirdo they should have got tilda swinton probably she seems very professional yeah that amuses me because i'm like i don't know the like clearly there's some sort of vague eastern european. Yes. But to an outsider, whatever Björk is and the Danish people are the same. They're the same to me.
Starting point is 00:30:49 She might be, I don't know. No, she's not. Icelandic. She's Icelandic. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Swan dress. What a weirdo. I remember the swan dress. I remember that first song she had and somebody does a backflip on a wall. Oh, yeah. That's all I remember. Do you know Richard Gere and Stallone hate each other? What were they in?
Starting point is 00:31:08 Well, they weren't in. Apparently in the movie The Lords of Flatbush, I don't know what that is. It's from the late 70s, early 80s. The part of Chico. Oh, yeah, the famous part of Chico in Lords of Flatbush. Which Perry King ended up playing was supposed to be Richard Gere. This is Stallone's side of the story.
Starting point is 00:31:26 He said he would strut around in an oversized motorcycle jacket like it was the baddest night at the round table. One day during an improv, he grabbed me. That was simulating a fight scene and he got a little carried away. An improv fight scene. I know. I told him to gentle fashion to lighten up, but he was completely in character and impossible to deal with.
Starting point is 00:31:43 They were rehearsing in Coney Island, so we decided to take a break i was eating a hot dog in the back seat of a toyota unnecessary detail but all right we get it you can afford a toyota in the 70s yeah boy that's all that was a foreign import in the 70s i get it now yeah i was eating a hot dog he climbs in with half a chicken covered in mustard and grease nearly dripping it out of the- I'm sorry, half a chicken. Half a chicken. In a bag, one assumes.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Nearly dripping out of the aluminium wrapper it was in. I said, yeah, that makes sense. That's where you keep a chicken warm in. Sure do. That thing is going to drip all over the place. And he said, don't worry about it. I said, if that gets on my pants, you're going to know about it. Or my Toyota.
Starting point is 00:32:26 worry about it i said if that gets on my pants you're gonna know about it or my toyota he proceeds to bite into it into the chicken and a small greasy river of mustard lands on my thigh i elbowed him in the side of the head and basically pushed him out of the car the director had to make a choice had to make a choice one of us had to go one of us had to stay richard was given his walking papers and to this day he seriously dislikes me he even thinks i'm the individual individual responsible for the gerbil rumor not true but that's the rumor wow uh the gerbil rumor everybody must know right yeah it's basically richard gear was admitted into hospital because he had a gerbil stuck inside him yes do you think it's possible that stallone did start that rumor? It sounds like he started that rumor. Ooh. Well, I mean, how many enemies does Richard Gere have? That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:33:10 I don't know how many enemies. But this was all- So what we're saying is there's a potential career-ruining rumor was created by Sylvester Stallone. Yes. Because he got some- Mustard from a chicken. From a chicken dripped on his leg.
Starting point is 00:33:25 In the backseat of a Toyota. Yeah. That's reminiscent of the story I know of the early days of Guns N' Roses, which I think I've mentioned on this show. Is that where Slash fell to? No, they all used to live in like a storage unit. Right, yeah. Like Slash and Duff used to live in like a storage,
Starting point is 00:33:41 like one of those roll-up door storage units. And one day apparently like one of them took a girl home home to the storage unit right and was having sex with a girl and the other one got some fluid on their leg and one and they went man we got to get a bigger place yeah no shit all right didn't the last time they spoke weren't they driving in the car together? Uh-huh. And Axl Rose just jumped out of the car and kind of rolled down the street. And that was like the last time they spoke.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I don't know. That sounds plausible. Yeah, I think that's what happened. What was this? I think they're all back together now because they've all run out of money. Yeah, yeah. I think they're touring again as Guns N' Roses. So Buckethead's out?
Starting point is 00:34:23 Yeah, Buckethead's out. Apparently he's technically very proficient. I'm sure he is, yeah. Like he's one of those multi, multi, multi instrumentalists. Do you think he's like- But he's got a bucket on his head. But do you think he needed a gimmick? Because he's like, Slash is Slash.
Starting point is 00:34:38 That's true. Slash you could- Anybody recognizes Slash. That's true. He's got a distinct look. So it's Buckethead. Exactly. If you want to be an iconic musician,
Starting point is 00:34:47 somebody has to be able to wear you as a Halloween costume. Yes. Slash, you can do it. He's got the hat. He's got the long hair. He's got the glasses. He's got the leather pants. Buckethead's got a bucket on his head.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Yeah. Yngwie Malmsteen. What's he look like? I don't know who that is. Joey Satriani? Are they the other members? No, they're the other. They're like weird guitar virtuosos.
Starting point is 00:35:04 You know those people who are technically very good at playing the guitar? Yeah. But who cares? Write a song, you idiots. Like Slava Gligorian. Yeah, like Slava Gligorian. Gligorian. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Oh, that's great. Got another one? This one I feel we've mentioned many times. It is one of my favorites. But I didn't know the name of the other person involved. Right. Until now. So it's Shane Hurlbutt. I don't know who that is the other person involved right until now um so it's
Starting point is 00:35:25 shane hurlbutt i don't know that and christian bale oh right shane hurlbutt yeah is the director of photography of terminator salvation what a film and again this is another leaked audio one yeah yeah exactly why get so worked up over this film of all others so this this there's a there's a very long piece of leaked audio which i've listened to many a time and every time i hear it i i decide i love another bit more my favorite bit's the scuffle where he's got christian bale yeah go so basically what happens is christian bale's doing his acting yeah Yeah. And then Hurlbutt, the director of photography, walks through his line of sight. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:07 So, which suggests to me that Christian Bale is acting at nobody. Yeah, well, that's a lot of that. Like, we don't know the context, but it sounds like he's not acting with another person in a scene. He's doing a one-shot to nothing. I think it might be the bit where he's talking into the radio, where he's like, the resistance and the... Oh, well, you need some incredible acting for that, don't you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Yeah. Would that be distracting somebody walking into your line of sight? I guess it would be. So does... On a film set, I'm... I mean, sure. You know, because obviously Christian Bale was doing this for free, and he's not a professional actor.
Starting point is 00:36:39 That's actually a good point. Yeah. My favorite part of it is actually how he keeps his American accent to the red. Yes, right. Exactly. That's fascinating, isn't it? I respect that. Doesn't even break character.
Starting point is 00:36:48 And when he does interviews, like if he's Batman or whatever, he keeps the American accent for the interviews. Isn't it interesting? Why do you think he does that? I think it's probably because his natural Welsh accent is garbage. That's probably true. Right? What's Catherine Zeta-Jones' natural accent?
Starting point is 00:37:04 Hello. Have you ever heard it? No. No, I'm sure we have. I don't think so. I mean, I think she's more kind of, she has a more British accent. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:12 As far as I'm aware. She doesn't look Welsh. Yeah. So anyway, what is my favourite? My favourite initially was the one where he goes, oh, good for you! That part.
Starting point is 00:37:24 That is. That is. That's pretty good. That's really nice. The tirade continues for four minutes. Oh, he keeps saying how they're done professionally. That's true, yeah. Which is probably true because I don't. Do you think he is a nightmare and that's why it was leaked?
Starting point is 00:37:38 Do you think somebody must not like Christian Bale to have leaked that? Oh, maybe. Yeah, I guess so. But I mean, also. Because if you liked him, you wouldn't release that, would you? Maybe for money. Yeah, maybe for money. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Yeah, that's a good point. I was going to say, my next favorite part was he mimed, but we can't see him. I want to see it. Because it's just audio. But somebody must have kept those cameras rolling. I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Maybe if he'd done it again, if he'd had another outburst, I reckon they would have kept the cameras rolling for that. But the part where clearly he's miming a man prancing in front of his line of sight where he goes, Very good. Yeah. Oh, I love that. Okay, this is a piece I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:38:22 He publicly apologized a few days yes he did yeah he called into los angeles radio station k rock which accent the home of the rock american because he's calling it a k rock yeah you're right yeah and he said he acted like a punk yeah yeah yeah well at least he apologized do you think he would have apologized if it didn't come out no yeah absolutely not why would you yeah yeah i mean people have mouth dads, man. It happens, I guess. Yeah. I do like how he was going to fight him. That's true.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Because the other guy must have just been like, because the other guy doesn't really say anything. You don't see him fire up. Yeah. He's just pretty kind of calm about the whole thing. But I think that that would be a case of, because the director of photography can be fired. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:00 You know what I mean? But you can't, like if it came down to to if they physically had a fight and they had to be restrained hey man it's all worth it man then and they had to go in a room together and hash it out they would have said
Starting point is 00:39:13 listen DOP you have to go you're gone man because Bale's the talent yeah you're probably right think of how many accents he knows at least two accents
Starting point is 00:39:21 he can't even do Welsh anymore that's right British and American. That's all he's got left. Yeah, I love it. Apparently, James Franco went real method on Annapolis. Annapolis? Annapolis, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Yeah, I know. Okay. I've written it wrong here, so I wasn't sure how it... Yeah, because it was with Tyrese Gibson. Oh, yes. From Fast and Furious fame. And in an interview, he said, I respect method actors, but he never snapped out of character. Whenever we get into the ring for the boxing scenes.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Okay, so apparently that movie was about boxing. All right. And even during practice, he was full on hitting me. So, it's not very cool, is it? Yeah, right. To hit another man. Yeah, but see, that's Franco, I feel. He's so in it, isn't he?
Starting point is 00:40:03 Because he's always- Well, he's admitted since then. He's like, yeah, I took it too far. Yeah. Like I went too method. Because he's always- That's classic Franco. He's always crossing the line, but what's life and what's a performance, man?
Starting point is 00:40:16 And now he just does things. He does movies ironically. Yeah, everything he does is ironically or some sort of experiment. Yeah. Like you'll phone in a performance on a massive blockbuster film just because or he'll just appear he appeared on didn't even appear on days of our lives did he was briefly on a soap opera i believe that's great yeah fx is the veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London.
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Starting point is 00:41:13 and show those living with mental illness and addiction that they're not alone. Help CAMH build a future where no one is left behind. So, who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Do you know Stallone and Schwarzenegger? They recently starred in a film. They did Escape Plan.
Starting point is 00:41:38 But for years they were bitter rivals. That sounds generic. Escape Plan. They have to get out of a prison. But it's a boat. I love a Stallone prison escape movie. That sounds generic. Yeah, it is. Escape plan. They have to get out of the prison, but it's a boat. All right. I love a Stallone prison escape movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:48 He's done at least that one in Lockout or Lockup. Yeah, but they also had to escape in Tango and Cash. That's true. That's true. Yeah. It's true, Mason. It is true. But so it's not technically like on set,
Starting point is 00:41:59 but they were always trying to one-up each other. And Stallone, they're friends now, but Stallone said in an interview that Schwarzenegger would trick him into roles. So he would find out, he would get word that like, oh, he's going to do Stop or My Mom Will Shoot. So his agent's like, Stallone, you have to do this because if you don't get it, Arnold's going to do it and you're going to look like an idiot. So that's why he did that movie. Huh, wow.
Starting point is 00:42:20 And that's why he did Rhinestone. Oh, this has happened more than once. Apparently, yeah. That's fascinating. I think he directed Rhinestone. He did a- Oh, this has happened more than once. Apparently, yeah. That's fascinating. I think he directed Rhinestone as well. And do you think what happens is he gets in there, he muscles his way, and his agent comes in, the casting agent, and he's like,
Starting point is 00:42:33 Stallone's going to do this contract now. Yes. What does Schwarzenegger want? We'll do it for a million less. And then he gets in there, and he signs on the dotted line, and then you just see Schwarzenegger's giant head peeking up from an outside window. And he's like gotcha gotcha it wasn't uh he didn't direct actually it was bob clark oh but that's yeah i'd find that also i would say that schwarzenegger is
Starting point is 00:42:56 better at picking picking roles that suits him than stallone was stallone tried to a bunch of different stuff like he tried comedies and musicals He tried things that weren't Rocky Yes he did Like Rambo Like Rambo Yeah He did Remember the one
Starting point is 00:43:10 He did like a mob style comedy No Yeah So but I think Yeah And initially Wait who was he in that? Was he a mob guy?
Starting point is 00:43:20 He was a mob guy It was all about the family I remember it was I watched it It was like a midday movie When I was like 17 Yeah But. I remember I watched it as like a midday movie when I was 17. Yeah, but I just think that's amusing, those guys. What else, Mason?
Starting point is 00:43:32 What about Wesley Snipes? Famous crazy man on Blade 3. Yeah, right. So it was him and David Goyer, I believe, directed that one, right? Yeah. Patton Oswalt tells that story really well. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I think maybe the two great things about casting comedians in supporting roles in dramas and action movies is, A, once you get good at comedy, you're also good at dramatic roles. Yeah. But also they're very good at retelling embarrassing stories from set. So Snipes, I think this was, do you think this was Wesley Snipes' descent into madness or do you think he was already mad? I think he's been mad for quite a while.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Yeah. Yeah. He initially thought that Wesley Snipes, he initially thought that David Goyer was a racist. Right. Because apparently there was a guy, like a black actor on set, he came on and he was wearing, I think he was dressed like a punk, and he had a shirt on that said garbage. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:38 It was just like the, and so. The band. Maybe, I don't know. But that's the thing. Like Wesley Snes assumed that david goy had personally put that actor in that shirt and then had him parade in front of wesley snipes as if to say black people are garbage clever very clever right a real racist would a real racist would go the extra mile he wouldn't imply imply. He'd be like, this is you.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Yeah. It was a lot of like, they'd have to film without him. Like they'd just have the back of somebody else's head and Ryan Reynolds would just. Yeah. Talk to probably the guy in the garbage t-shirt. Probably, yeah. But yeah, so at one point,
Starting point is 00:45:18 Wesley Snipes tried to choke him out on set. So Goya hired some local, like a local biker gang. Yeah. To pretend to, I guess, to act as his bodyguard. So then Wesley Snipes stopped interacting with Goya altogether. Yeah. Except he would send him notes on post-it notes. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Like if he had script notes or whatever, or like acting notes or whatever, or changing, he'd write whatever he wanted to communicate to David Goyer and then he'd write From Blade on them. I know. So there was a lot of like – you can notice it in the film where Ryan Reynolds would just be quipping and then it just cuts to Blade and he's like – you know? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Yeah. What a film. And Patton Oswalt says like, you know? Oh, yeah. Yeah. What a film. And Patton Oswalt says that film's a six, but if you knew what it took to make it even that good, it's a 10. Yeah. Agreed. Which I love. There's a very famous George Takei-William Shatner feud that's been happening for years.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Oh, yeah. I guess that's true. Yeah. Yeah. Over the years, he's called Shatner a dickhead and a douche, and Takai claims that his former co-star is self-involved. And he also, when he got married recently, he invited the entire cast.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Oh, except for Shatner. Except for Shatner. Interesting. Yeah. Shatner is a diva. That is the rumor. And the whole Galaxy Quest, Tim Allen's character in that, is based on Shatner.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Even though Shatner's like, no, I don't see it. Well, you wouldn't, would you? Yeah, you're just looking in a mirror all the time. That's why you didn't see it. Yes. Yeah, I don't know. I'm inclined to believe that. But I've seen Shatner in interviews.
Starting point is 00:46:59 There's one where Tom Felton does one with him. You know, he played Draco Malfoy. Oh, yes. And it's very weird. Well, first of all, those two together. Well, because they do conventions. Of course. And he goes to interview him and it's just really bizarre.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Yeah, yeah. It's just a really awkward exchange. Yeah. So, I love that one. What else, Mason? Have you seen the film Red Planet? I have. Did that come out at the same time as Mission to Mars?
Starting point is 00:47:26 Around the same time. It was one of those Armageddon deep impact situations where clearly two studios were like, no, it's Mars. Mars is it. Trust me. Trust me. Whole genre of Mars movies. They can't both tank.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Going to Mars, leaving Mars, living on Mars. Ghosts of Mars. Ghosts of Mars, exactly. Yeah. And then they tried a couple and it didn't work. So anyway, Tom Sizemore and Val Kilmer were both on that film in Australia. Another Val Kilmer one, right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:47:53 So apparently Kilmer, the beef started because Kilmer learned that the production team shelled out money to ship Tom Sizemore's elliptical machine to the set like from America to Australia can't he just go for a jog? yeah
Starting point is 00:48:15 or get an elliptical we have elliptical machines in Australia no not like that because they work backwards here yeah that's true they make you less fit here oh no
Starting point is 00:48:22 oh I've been using them every day. So Kilmer finds this out and he apparently, I guess they're in the gym. So Kilmer says- Last time bloody Kilmer's been in the gym. Got him. No, I think he slimmed down actually. Yeah, I think he's looking a little better.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Anyway, so go on. Yeah. So Kilmer says, I'm making $10 million on this. You're only making two. And so Sizemore responds by throwing a 50 pound weight at Val Kilmer Well Val Kilmer is notoriously difficult to work with
Starting point is 00:48:53 on Island of Dr. Moreau Moreau? Yes which was from like 95 he well that movie was a disaster for many reasons I mean bloody what's his name was on it? What's that guy? He was in Godfather.
Starting point is 00:49:09 He's very famous. Father Brando. Yeah. And he wore a bucket on his head for like the entire film because he thought it was funny. Apparently, yeah, Kilmer bullied star Richard Stanley on set. It was 1994, sorry. And he was replaced by fellow director John Frankenheimer.
Starting point is 00:49:26 This could be a whole episode. Also, then the director goes to live in the woods. That's right. It's a whole thing. And he said of Val Kilmer, I don't like Val Kilmer. I don't like his work ethic and I don't want to be associated with him ever again. Also, apparently Val Kilmer apologized at the wrap party and he was like, it's too late, Kilmer.
Starting point is 00:49:44 You blew it. Right. Well, that's what apparently him and Sizemore party and he was like, it's too late, Kilmer. You blew it. Right. Well, that's what apparently him and Sizemore are cool now. Oh, they're cool now. But one of the producers apparently said to Sizemore, because apparently he's more threatening, when you hit him, because eventually you're going to snap and hit him. Kill him.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Don't hit him in the face. And apparently he hit him in the chest. Okay, good. So apparently they fought it out. My favourite part of this is the elliptical machine. Because it's... I must have mentioned this on the show. I met somebody who worked on Ghost Rider.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Did I mention this? I don't think... Maybe. Was it Rebel Wilson? No, no, no. So it's somebody who worked on the production of Ghost Rider. And I learned from them that apparently when
Starting point is 00:50:27 Nicholas, because that was filmed in Australia as well. Nicholas Cage, this is alleged by the way. And also it's not incriminating or anything because it doesn't matter. When he came to Australia, they gave him like a super nice
Starting point is 00:50:43 luxury SUV so he could drive around and it had all, you know, the latest mod cons and all the luxury accoutrements and whatever. He could get all the local radio stations. Exactly. A Fox FM. A Gold 104. A Gold 104. A Magic 693.
Starting point is 00:50:55 A Triple M. Triple M. Yeah. Rocks football. Boy, does it. But anyway, he liked this so much that at the end of the so they they got this one oh sorry so apparently at the end of the the the production he's like all right cool um so the suv ship it back to my house if you could and they're like oh probably pretty expensive to do that he's like yeah i know but you know do
Starting point is 00:51:24 it you bought it for technically it's mine yeah and I know, but, you know. Do it. You bought it for me. Technically, it's mine. Yeah. And I liked it. So, if you could send it back to America, to my house. And they're like, what we could do, potentially, is contact the company in America, and they'll make you one that's exactly the same, except it'll have the steering wheel on the correct side of the road so you can
Starting point is 00:51:45 actually drive it in america and he's like no no this one and so apparently they shipped it over and now he i assume drives it around and has a lot of difficulty parking so yeah that guy is i mean apparently he's not bad to work with he's just alone yeah yeah and broke yeah also that's that's why he's always working. Because of shit like this, yeah. And he had to give back his dinosaur skull recently. Yes, because it was stolen from Mongolia. Not by him.
Starting point is 00:52:11 No. But from the dealer. Imagine if he national treasured and he stole it. I also heard that... He's bald? He wears wigs? What? No.
Starting point is 00:52:22 That one isn't true. No, what I heard was that apparently i believe it was his birthday the last the day after the rat party right so they were like listen we're all gonna get together for the last day for after after the rat party we're all gonna have to get together all the cast and crew we're gonna have a birthday party for nicholas cage and they're like all right and so everybody like has oh, right. And so everybody has the wrap party. Everybody gets loose. Everybody gets up, super hungover, and then they all show up
Starting point is 00:52:50 and he doesn't show up. He's already left. He already went back to America. Well, he's a star. Yeah, he's a star. Isn't he? Good on him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Oh, just quickly on Batman Forever, Joel Schumacher said this about Val Kilmer. Val, short for Valerie, I assume, is the most psychologically troubled human being I've ever worked with. Wow. And you've worked with Joel Schumacher. Exactly, yeah. Oh, man. What else?
Starting point is 00:53:15 I got one here. What do we got here? Apparently, Faye Dunaway and Roman Polanski hate each other while filming. Chinatown? This is a Chinatown issue? That's right. I was like, oh, this seems boring, but I'm glad I put it in.
Starting point is 00:53:28 They had this legendary feud. While filming a scene for a movie, Dunaway had to use the restroom room and Polanski wouldn't let her. Faye Dunaway retaliated by pissing in a cup that was in her hand and throwing it in the director's face. Wow. Surely he saw that coming. No.
Starting point is 00:53:47 What? You don't think she's pissing into a cup. You don't think you'd be like, hmm, something's up here. Oh, I see what you're saying. No, absolutely. Because she didn't leave. That's true. She was there.
Starting point is 00:53:57 What an odd thing to do. Not on her behalf. That makes sense. But to be like, hey, I think my, you know, I think. But you think that makes sense, to throw a cup of piss into somebody's face. Yeah, but I mean, it makes more sense than going, hmm, as a director, I liked...
Starting point is 00:54:13 Look, I like... I feel I get my best performances out of my actors when I encourage them and they get a good meal at the craft services and they get a lot of rest, but I will not let them pee. I much prefer they're always on edge because they need to pee. Very weird, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Having to pee is the worst thing in the world. Yeah, exactly. When asked about the incident in 2008 by The Guardian, Dunaway bristled saying, the question doesn't even deserve the dignity of a response and abruptly ended the interview. So it definitely happened, but she's upset about it. Also, apparently in that that movie Roman Polanski
Starting point is 00:54:45 like one of her hairs on her head was catching the light in a shot so he just walked up and pulled it out of her head he didn't flatten it
Starting point is 00:54:53 no he just pulled it out yeah makes a lot of sense that's not cool man no yeah I mean it's probably
Starting point is 00:54:58 of the uncool things he's done yeah it's not the most uncool thing yeah yeah he still hasn't come back has he well he will go to jail correct yeah yeah man what a prick yeah fast eight this was the
Starting point is 00:55:13 probably the most recent one yes uh the rock made a post on twitter or instagram or whatever he was like all the female co-stars are great what a great movie and then he said my male co-stars however a different story some conduct themselves as stand-up men and true professionals, while others don't. The ones that don't are too chicken shit to do anything about it anyway. Candy asses. When you watch the movie in April and you say, I'm not acting some of those scenes, my blood is legit boiling.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Ooh. Yeah. Now, he's only referring to one person, right? I thought it was like a publicity stunt. Yeah, same. And I also thought it was Scott Eastwood, because I don thought it was like a publicity stunt. Yeah, same. And I also thought it was Scott Eastwood because I don't know anything about Scott Eastwood. Right, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:55:48 And also they... But it turned out to be Vin Diesel, right? Well, it's his franchise and The Rock's kind of... Well, The Rock saved it. But The Rock is probably a better character in those films and at least as beloved. Yeah, no, I would say so. In that series.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Sure, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think The Rock would kill Vin Diesel. Oh, yeah. They're different sizes and shapes. Yeah, no, I would say so. In that series. Sure, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think The Rock would kill Vin Diesel. Oh, yeah. They're different sizes and shapes. Yeah. But I think Vin Diesel probably has a lower center of gravity. Yeah, he probably does, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:14 But apparently in watching that film, and I don't remember, they don't share any screen time. Or if they do, it's like it's at a distance or they CGI them. Yeah, right, right. And whatever. Like they hate each other that much. So, yeah. Maybe it's Tyrese Gibson's influence.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Could be. Because he's a bloody, this guy, you know what I'm talking about? He's ruined one film. He's shaking it up. Nick Nolte was called by Julia Roberts. They filmed some shit together. I can't remember. She said, while he can be charming and nice, he's also completely disgusting.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Oh, it was I Love Trouble. Oh, was that it? It was the one where they were both, they were newspaper reporters. And they both loved Trouble? They both loved Trouble, but they were always getting into more trouble than the other one cared for. I bet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:59 One of them aged reasonably well and the other one turned into Nick Nolte, yeah? It's true. Julia Roberts turned into Nick Nolte. yeah? That's true. Julia Roberts turned into Nick Nolte. Nick Nolte remained largely the same. Now there's two Nick Noltes out there. That's too too bad. Which is bad for Gary Busey. Because now he's having even less chance of getting the Gary Busey, Nick Nolte roles.
Starting point is 00:57:20 It's a nightmare for him. Nolte acknowledged it and said, it's not nice to score someone disgusting, but she's not a nice person. Everyone knows that. That's probably why her karma turned her into Nick Nolte. Yeah. What else, Mason?
Starting point is 00:57:33 Tempers flared on the set so much, the two played more to stand-ins than each other. Yeah. That's not uncommon, though, just in general. Yeah, exactly. Like big stars will be like, right, I'm out. And someone else will come in. Well, actually, I know a guy who also worked on Ghost Rider.
Starting point is 00:57:46 What? Rebel Wilson. Yeah, he was Rebel Wilson. And he was a stand-in for the villain. Oh, Wes Bentley. Yeah, Wes Bentley. So Nicolas Cage would deliver all the- Is Wes Bentley also Australian?
Starting point is 00:57:55 He's not. I don't think so. Okay. Yeah. I mean, he might be, but I don't know. Yeah. Is he Jake Gyllenhaal also? Do you reckon he could be?
Starting point is 00:58:03 Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. He's aged poorly, though. Yeah. To a real Nick Nolte. He's got a real fancy beard in Hunger Games, isn't he? Yeah, that's right. One of my favourite beards.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Oh, I'm aware. As a former fancy beard owner, I'm well aware. That was way fancier than your beard as well. That's true, yeah. That was some next level beard. How do you get a blade so thin that you can do the little curls? I think you have a guide. You must have a guide, yeah. you must have a guy yeah like a native guide yeah right it's like you know people have
Starting point is 00:58:29 haircuts and they shave like elaborate patterns into your hair yeah yeah seems you need a lot of follicles i also think maybe they fill it in they probably fill it in spray paint style yeah i'm speaking of julia roberts she also i think on hook yeah she also had like a beef with steven spielberg right Because she dropped out No sorry She called off her engagement To Kiefer Sutherland Like four days before the wedding
Starting point is 00:58:49 Just prior Wow Yeah So Extenuating circumstances Yeah so Tinker Hell was what they called her on set That's very good
Starting point is 00:58:57 Yeah Yeah But yeah I think that was It seems like She had a lot of personal problems Around the time And wasn't she turning up late and all sorts of stuff? Like I said, tinker hell.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Tinker hell, yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gotcha. And I think Spielberg's even said he won't work with her ever again. Oh, wow. Yeah. That was like 15 years ago? Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:59:18 More than 20, 91. Also, maybe he has. Yeah, he probably has. I don't know. Yeah. Oh, God. What have we got here? Shelley Duv duval this isn't so much a feud but on the set of the shining stanley kubrick just tortured her the entire time yeah that was back in the day when you could do that isn't it yeah yeah he isolated
Starting point is 00:59:37 her from uh cast and crew and told nobody to praise anything that she did he changed the script and lines on her in the last minute so she never knew what she was doing until just before, so she stopped bothering to read them. Yeah. The baseball bat scene has a record for having the most takes. We know where she's fending off Jack Nicholson with a baseball bat. 127 times they shot that, and by the end, she was really crying and emotional.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Yeah. It shot over 500 days in order so she kind of you know it happened so right you see her kind of go so her going insane was really more or less really happening that's interesting 500 days is a long shoot as well uh also he she presented him with clumps of her own hair because she was falling out yeah and she cried 12 hours a day jeez so that's an additional acting time yeah how does she how does she have time to sleep she must have sleep cried i was gonna say after a while i'm sure you'd get so used to crying you'd just sack out and just fall
Starting point is 01:00:37 asleep yeah i guess you would see for me i'm like i'd quit but you probably wouldn't because it's a kubrick film yeah i mean what did she make after, but you probably wouldn't because it's a Kubrick film. Yeah. I mean, what did she make after? Popeye? Yep. She hasn't- Actually, she's kind of- I think this damaged her long term. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:52 It's a pretty good movie, though. I guess. But I'm also glad that they- You know what? I'm glad that nobody cares about movie making enough, like to this level anymore. Is that true, do you reckon? Yeah. To the point where they'll psychologically torture somebody. Yeah, you're probably right.
Starting point is 01:01:07 I think, if anything, the existence of Stanley Kubrick was good because it proved ultimately all the performances of those movies are fine. Aren't they just? You don't really need to go to that extent ever. Yeah. I'm glad that movies now are just all choppy editing and stand on your ex and say your lines and leave. Nah, I want someone to be tortured. Yeah, all ever. Yeah. I'm glad that movies now are just all choppy editing and stand on your ex and say your lines and leave. Nah, I want someone to be tortured.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Yeah, all right. Yeah. You've twisted me arm. I guess it's like Leonardo DiCaprio does a bit of sleeping inside a bear. That's not the same, is it? No. Yeah. What's this one?
Starting point is 01:01:39 I've got one here. Oh, yeah. Kenny Baker and Anthony Daniels hate each other. other r2d2 and c3 yeah yeah uh he said it baker said about him he's been such an awkward person over the years if he just calmed down and socialized with everybody we could make a fortune touring around making personal appearances i'm asked him asked him that four times now but last time he looked down his nose at me like i was a little piece of shit he said I don't do many of those conventions. Go away, little man.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Wow. So, wow. Wait, who said that? Which one? Anthony Daniels said that to Kenny Baker. Oh, that's cool. See, that would work better in reverse. Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:16 If Kenny Baker was like, little man. Gotcha. You're the real little man here. You're the real little man, yeah. In 2011, Daniel opted to downplay his co-star's contributions to the film, telling the Mirror, I never saw him. I mean, R2-D2 doesn't even speak.
Starting point is 01:02:29 He might as well have been a bucket. Brutal. Brutal. Yeah, so there's that. Does that seem real? Wait, so did they ever... He's dead. Yeah, no, but did they...
Starting point is 01:02:43 I don't know if they did, no. Come back together. Yes. No. What's the word for that? Reconcile. There we go. No, I don't think they did.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Oh, that's disappointing. Yeah. Wow. But I think he put a nice post out about him when he died, maybe on Twitter. Or maybe he did nothing. I might just be imagining that. I've got one more.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Maybe he was contractually obliged. He probably was. I think maybe there's some... I would imagine at this point they literally put a clause in your contract for a star wars movie that says if somebody on this movie dies you have to you have to have a story ready to go story ready to go and eulogize them and so like people are walking up to each other on set being like hey harrison um what we had some good times, didn't we? What's a funny story you and I?
Starting point is 01:03:31 Fuck off. All right. That'll do. Yeah, I can tell that. I've got one more. Do you have any more? Look, the R2-D2 and C-3PO of hip hop, Jamie Foxx and LL Cool J. On any given Sunday.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Yeah. The great Pacino film. Hoo-ah! Thank you. Football! Yeah, all right. Scrum! There we go.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Very good. Keep going. I was trying to think of literally another football term, American football term. I couldn't think of one. I don't know. No, exactly. Goalposts.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Hoo-ah! Kick-off. Game day. Nice. They actually had a number of fistfights on set. No, exactly. Goal posts. Kick off. Game day. Nice. They actually had a number of fistfights on set. Right, yeah. And the police were called. Really?
Starting point is 01:04:12 Yeah, for reals. Had to break it up. Who got... No one got arrested? It was just... You know, just come on, guys. Just come on. We're all famous, rich Hollywood celebrities.
Starting point is 01:04:21 We're all slashies here. We're all actors slash rappers. If you could just keep it calm, all right? A lot of're all actors slash rappers. If you could just keep it calm. Yeah. A lot of the boy actors slash rappers. Is that a good movie? Look, I enjoyed it at the time, but I would never ever go back because it's a movie from like 99 or 2000 or something.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Guy gets his eye knocked out or something. The fight was immortalized in Cool J's 2000 track, You Can't F With Me. That's right. Where he rapped, once and for all, what's my... Okay, it's very subtle, but you might pick it up. Okay, I'll say. Once and for all, what's my opinion on Jamie Foxx? He pussy.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Pussy ain't funny as Chris Rock. Ha. He's not. It's true. He's probably not. Because Jamie Foxx is a rapper slash actor slash comedian. He's also a slash comedian. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:03 He's a good baby driver though. Isn't he just, yeah, yeah. He's a good baby driver, though. Isn't he just? Yeah, yeah. His career's obviously also gone better than LL Cool J. Oh, that's true, yeah. But LL Cool J, hat like a shark fin. So who's the real winner? Who is the real winner?
Starting point is 01:05:17 On the set of Charlie's Angels, the reboot. Yes. Which McG or Brett Ratner made. I think it was McG. Bill murray's bosley oh we forgot that's the that's the origin of of me yelling mcg every time mcg is mentioned terminate salvation oh right okay when when christian bale is ranting at it's our friend what's his name but buttface or whatever and a number of times he yells at the director McG for help. He does.
Starting point is 01:05:45 He goes, McG! Like he wants some backup. He's like, McG! Anyway. McG doesn't say anything, though. No, that's true. He's staying well out of it. McG knows what side his bread and butter is buttered.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Is buttered on. Buttered. Bill Murray Bosley reportedly told Lucy Liu, Alexander Monday, you can't act. Then Liu allegedly started throwing punches at the actor and they had to be physically pulled apart. That's incredible. I didn't know about that. Me neither.
Starting point is 01:06:11 That's all news to me. I think Lucy Liu could really fuck up Bill Murray as well. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He was also replaced in the sequel. Yes, with the late Bernie Mac. The late Bernie Mac, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:22 I never saw those movies. I always thought they looked shit I have seen the first one right and you didn't see Full Throttle no
Starting point is 01:06:32 I've seen whichever one Crispin Glover is in which I think is the first one I think it's the first one yeah I don't yeah I don't know yeah
Starting point is 01:06:38 great it's weird that he is not it's weird that Crispin Glover is not the source of tension on any given set I feel yeah I know he's kind of he's weird and he keeps to himself I think the source of tension on any given set, I feel. Yeah, I know he's weird and he keeps to himself.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Yeah, I guess maybe that's it. I'm just going through my list to see if I've missed any of them. Have you got any more, Mason? No, I'm running out. I'm going to move it bloody along. Last few were off the top of my bloody head because I bloody don't remember anything. I didn't write anything down, if I'm honest with you. George C.K. and Annapolis.
Starting point is 01:07:04 I told my Richard Gere chicken story. Yep. I reckon everybody should watch that Michael Babiglia stand-up special where he talks through his process of whether or not he's going to tell the David S. Gortner, what's his name? David O. Russell story. Yeah, right. Like he goes, he realizes at a point where if he does this,
Starting point is 01:07:24 he's probably going to ruin his chances of, or he will ruin his chance of ever working with him because he's an actor. Yeah, right. Like he goes, he realizes at a point where if he does this, he's probably going to ruin his chances of, or he will ruin his chance of ever working with him. Because he's an actor also. Yeah, sure. And he went, you know what? I just, I have to do it. Yeah, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:33 He had to go for the joke. All right, Mason, that'll do it then. Yeah. You know what it is time for? Oh, our famous segment, What We're Reading. What We're Going to Read. Yeah. I'm doing the thing.
Starting point is 01:07:48 What are we reading? What we're going to read. Yeah. I'm doing the thing. This is such a famous segment, isn't it? Very famous segment. It's well known in the podcasting world. I would say at least 50% of our audience are aware of it. And the remaining 50% switch off as soon as the topic's done. Or midway through the topic. Yeah, who knows? Or during the theme song. Yeah. Which I always forget we have as the topic's done. Or midway through the topic. Yeah, who knows? Or during the theme song.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Yeah. Which I always forget we have. Yes. But it's weird. There is a theme song. I have to edit it in every week. It's real annoying. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:13 What a burden, Mason. Yeah, right? Yeah. All right. You mentioned this a few weeks ago, but I only just got it today. And it's even more weeks ago because this is from the past. Oh, no. I love on Netflix. Oh, yeah. What do you think love on netflix oh yeah it's really good season
Starting point is 01:08:26 one and two one and season two is what i watch but i've seen season one before excellent it is a great show it's a real man and raw it's real and raw it's the realest thing you'll ever see do you like all the characters do you like some of the characters um they're okay they're pretty unpleasant a lot of them are they're less unpleasant i feel in this season though yeah right because they've worked through some of their issues my favorite thing about one of my favorite things about the show is the fake kind of charmed supernatural esque show that they're making in the background i love that i think it's yeah because it's it's it's a show that could exist.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's terrible, but it's no worse than any of the real ones of those. There was a feud on Charmed as well. Didn't Shannon Doherty leave or whatever as well? Yeah, that's true. I think she's famous for feuds. Yeah, she loves a bloody feud. She probably feuded with Heather Lockley on Malware's Place or 90210. Yeah, whichever one she was on.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Whatever one it was. Yeah. And then had to get another Charmed sister. Yeah. But anyway, so it another charmed sister. Yeah. But anyway, so it's Paul Rust and Gillian Jacobs from Community. And they're an unlikely couple. Yes, they just. Getting through life, you know.
Starting point is 01:09:33 What does it all mean, you know? What does it all mean? We'll never know until we're dead. And then we might not even know then. He's all right. Depending on what happens after. Bloody hell. Yeah, I'm just saying, man.
Starting point is 01:09:42 This got very existential. You know what else is existential? What's that? Blade Runner 2049 prequel short films that they're releasing. Are they? There's one out by the time this is. There'll probably be more later. It's called Nexus Dawn.
Starting point is 01:09:55 And it's got Neander Wallace played by the late, great Jared Leto. I'm assuming he's dead. I would say so, yeah. I'm taking a stab in the dark. This is going out three weeks after. In the future, we don't know. We should have made more predictions. We should have, yeah. I'm taking a stab in the dark. This is going out three weeks after. In the future, we don't know. We should have made more predictions. We should have, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Maybe we could do that at the end. Okay. Who claimed, so basically it's like five minutes. He claims to have designed a perfected model of replicant called the Nexus 9. And they've finished the first film. So in 2013, replicants are outlawed. Are they already outlawed? maybe they're not
Starting point is 01:10:26 2030 or 2013? 20 20 20 20 2023 they're outlawed so like four years after the first one or whatever it is
Starting point is 01:10:34 and he's trying to have this Neander Wallace guy is trying to have this repealed because he's like check out this real good one that I made so
Starting point is 01:10:41 that kind of sets up for and it's set like I think it's like yeah i think it's like yeah i think it's set in 2033 so it's a prequel oh okay quite it's a decade or so before yeah everyone so interesting yeah i think it's worth checking out it's uh also interesting that the they've only gone through three nexus models is that how many there are the the last ones were nexus six so they've only gone through three Nexus models in like 25 years. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Got to get them right, man. That's true. It's like Nintendo devices. But they should have taken Apple's procedure and there should have been a Nexus 6S. Yep. Slightly slimmer. Yep. Then a Nexus 7, then a Nexus 7C, which is just the same Nexus, but they've been stripped
Starting point is 01:11:21 down. They have less emotional capacity, but they're in weird colors. It's like a bright yellow one and a bright green one. No headphone jack. No headphone jack, exactly. And then, you know, other things that Apple do. Yeah. There's also, they're linked to Prometheus and that.
Starting point is 01:11:37 They're all linked, aren't they? Like the same universe. Are they? Yeah. Like the corporations crossover. Oh, I see. Right, right, right. Can't wait for Soldier 2049.
Starting point is 01:11:46 It's going to be so good. We've got to do a Blade Runner episode, actually. Okay. We might get a very special guest. Harrison Ford. Can you imagine? Yeah. Can you imagine just harassing Harrison Ford for an hour about Blade Runner?
Starting point is 01:11:59 Can you imagine harassing Harrison Ford to be on a podcast? Imagine. He wouldn't understand it, would he? No, that's true. Oh, I love it. understand it, would he? No, that's true. Oh, I love it. All right, next segment? No, because I'm not ready. Oh, Mason, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:12:10 James, Phil, quickly. Listen, comics, I read some comics. I don't know what I've read in three weeks. Probably the last Marvel Secret Wars or whatever. Oh, yeah? Is that nearly done? Yeah, I think there's one left. It might be out by now, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:24 I saw a panel and it's regular Steve Rogers punching Hydra Steve Rogers, so I don't know what that is. They might have a fight in the mind. Might be a dream sequence. Might be real. I don't know. I'm just speculating, so it's not a spoiler. Letters is our next segment.
Starting point is 01:12:39 The classic one was letters, oh, letters. We love you, some letters. They're only a day my way. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. What do you reckon about that? I don't know. I have no thoughts.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Okay, good. I do have some letters though. Okay, I'm ready. If you want to reach the show, you can hashtag weeklyplanetpod. You can also shoot an email over to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. You want to go first or do you want me to go first? You go first. I'm happy to do that.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Okay. Hashtag weeklyplanetpod. Who's this from? I think it's from... I don't have the name here. Oh, no, it's from Ding, the cheesy horse. Oh, yes. What kind of end credit scene would you like for Avengers 3?
Starting point is 01:13:22 How would they set up phase four? Oh, I would like a series of very small origins of new characters. Okay, yeah. Like maybe like- A Captain Marvel. Maybe a Captain Marvel. Yeah, not even that. Maybe like, oh, because it has to be stuff that we know.
Starting point is 01:13:40 The phase four slate is already done, is it? Like they've figured out what it is. Finalized it? Yeah, possibly. Okay. Or maybe not. Well, Matt, I reckon I would like maybe a whole bunch of small origins of like maybe second string heroes or minor villains or something like that.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Right, okay, yeah, yeah. Like just some sort of illustration that the world is getting weirder. Yeah, yeah. Like maybe like a half a dozen in a row. And then you're like, oh, it's going to be that guy. It's going to be that guy. It's going to be that guy. All right.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Excellent. The rhino. So you want like, yeah, so you want like Amazing Spider-Man 2 Origins Basement. Yes. Or they just step out. Origins Basement, exactly, yes. Yeah, yeah. I guess for me it depends on what they do in the movie.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Because I think there's a good chance a lot of people are going to be killed. And then maybe someone will step through a time portal and be like, come with me if you want to time travel. Yeah, okay, right. Like, I think if anyone's going to be killed, then maybe someone will step through a time portal and be like come with me if you want to time travel yeah okay right yeah like i think if anyone's going to be killed it it won't be tony stark he'll be the one who do the time travel i'd imagine to fix the whatever because i think i think this movie is going to be thanos just obliterating everything yeah and then the next movie will be fixing it with captain marvel oh i see right right. So you think the world's going to be left in ruins? Something like that. Or something really terrible will happen to the Avengers or whatever.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Do you think Avengers 4 might be they have to go through time and dimensions and fix everything? Yes. Wow, interesting. I'd not even considered that. I think there will be a bit of that in Infinity War. But then it's going to really kick in a gear. And also because Captain Marvel is coming after. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:05 So there are some movies that come out in between. Yeah. But there's no Captain America film. There's no Iron Man film. That's true. It's just going to leave people kind of in suspense. Yes. It'll be like Back to the Future 2.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Yeah. A movie. Correct. It'll be like a movie is what I'm saying. Oh. Got a letter, Mason? Let's see. Why don't you shut up about it?
Starting point is 01:15:25 Daniel Madden wants to know, because Marvel made a smaller scale Civil War for the MCU. Yes. It was Civil War in name, like the comic book. Civil War. Civil War, but it was sort of- In name. In name.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Less detail in the movie. Do you think DC could make a smaller scale Injustice story after a few more movies and make it work? I think no. Why do you say no? Because, first of all, you have to have a regular universe that is consistent and makes sense before you build Injustice, which is set in a parallel universe where everything's darker and meaner,
Starting point is 01:15:58 but that's this universe. Yes. Unless you say this is the Injustice universe. Well, that's a theory also. I don't think they'd turn around and be like, this is, nah, this is Injustice. It looks like it could be. See, that's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:16:11 What if they went, okay, this is the bad universe and they discarded it? Yeah, I'd be okay with that. Yeah, cool. I think people would be confused. Oh, absolutely, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think it'd be a real sort of Hail Mary play if they went, all right, we're going to say
Starting point is 01:16:29 that this is the universe that is bad. Yeah. They won't say bad. They'll be like, oh, it's a fractured timeline or something. Yeah, they'll say fractured. What if they were like, no, this is the bad one. We don't like it. This is a rotten universe.
Starting point is 01:16:40 And what if in the next, what it did this injustice league 2 or whatever a portal opens up and it's like a more technicolor superman and a more like batman with a smile on his dial or whatever and it's like fresh clean cut but it's the same actors but like fresh clean cut versions they're like what is going on here and then it turns out they're an injustice and then that universe is destroyed and then we go to a new better universe i guess the problem with that is wonder woman was really well received that's true yeah i think if anything was going to stop it it would be that yeah yeah because she's nice i guess that's true yeah yeah yeah okay you're right i guess they could go you could still do it yeah i guess they could yeah that's true i guess they could be like we'll take your wonder woman yeah well they could do like they could go okay well wonder woman's kind of the same in both realities yeah that could work
Starting point is 01:17:33 or they could do it like in that episode of rick and morty where everybody in the injustice universe is killed except for wonder woman but the regular universe is wonder woman is killed so they just switch her over and nobody notices nobody notices yeah that's yeah they could even go like because of amazonian magic it's fine now yeah you know click click we did it we did it yeah uh this is from drew hashtag weekly planet pod do you boys stand uh Where do you boys stand on superhero training montages? Like BBS Incredibles. I feel we need more of the pushing stuff around. I like them.
Starting point is 01:18:12 I hate them. Yeah, what do you hate them? Kick-Ass probably has done one. Probably. Yeah. I think because I just like a training montage. Okay, right. The Batman Superman one is funny.
Starting point is 01:18:25 Because he's all throwing tires about. Yeah. It's real funny. Like, you can lift all the tires you want. Yeah. You're still not going to be as strong as Superman. I don't know if you know that, Bruce. No.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Well, also, because he's also got the mechanized suit, so he doesn't- Doesn't really need it. I mean, he would just work out. I think that's just a regular workout for him. I don't think it was anything different. What I like about that is that it's this super high-tech bat cave yeah everything's clearly been you know custom made to the nth degree like to his precise specifications but his his weightlifting implement is just an old tire yeah exactly yeah where did it come from and he's hitting the one with a hammer or did he just grab it off the side of the road i guess he did
Starting point is 01:19:02 it's not yeah yeah all these because i guess the did. Off the Batmobile? I don't think it's a Batmobile. You're probably right. It's not, yeah. Yeah, all these, because I guess the idea is that like, look, he's tough and he's real because like his bench press has got like chains on it
Starting point is 01:19:12 and it's grim and dark and whatever. Like they don't give him like a super clean gym. Do you think they should give him a super clean gym? Yeah, super clean gym. It's got bat logos
Starting point is 01:19:20 on everything. It's got bat logos on everything. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. This is from Sean. Will you guys do an episode on. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. This is from Sean.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Will you guys do an episode on the new Spider-Man PS4 game? Yeah, maybe. Sure, maybe. Yeah. We did one on Arkham once. Did we? On the Arkham games, yeah. Did we?
Starting point is 01:19:34 Yeah, on that spin-off one they did that Rocksteady didn't make. Oh, Origins. Yeah. Huh. But you don't have a PS4, do you, Mason? No, I don't. We're going to have to play it together then, maybe. Yeah, as a team.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Yeah. I'll take the directional arrows, you take, Mason? No, I don't. We're going to have to play it together then, maybe. Yeah, as a team. Yeah. I'll take the directional arrows. You take the buttons. Yeah, nice. Yeah. Nice. What else? Let's see.
Starting point is 01:19:52 Shout out to Abud Zahir, who's on a day four of a 4,000-kilometre one-man drive across Canada. Jeez. He's been only listening to us. Oof. Yeah, right? Do you think maybe it isn't a 4,000-kilometre drive? It just feels like a 4,000-kilometre drive. It could very well be. Do you think maybe it isn't a 4,000-kilometer drive? It just feels like a 4,000-kilometer drive. Do you think he's still driving by the time this goes out?
Starting point is 01:20:11 Cool, mate. In the future? After Jared Leto's funeral? Yeah, I'd say so, yeah. Oh, okay, you're right. No, I reckon he's made it by now. He's made it, good. Or he's driven off the side of the road.
Starting point is 01:20:20 And you probably don't hear this because you're sick of us. Yeah, right, that's true. About enough. Yeah, he's one of the guys that turns off after the topic. And you probably don't hear this because you're sick of us. Yeah, right. That's true. About enough. Yeah, he's one of the guys that turns off after the topic. So, yeah. This is from a movie called Ben. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Who would win in a fight? You and Mason's previous selves from episode one or the weekly planet us now? Oh, good question. I'm more tired now. But I guess I've got more to lose so yeah because i wasn't married i didn't have a kid yeah um yeah you're the same you haven't
Starting point is 01:20:55 changed at all yes exactly right no that's true no you're not wrong what do you think though you were doing you were doing a martial arts then remember I was terrible at it. Oh, yeah, okay. I think I'm more comfortable with the fact that I'm no good at that sort of thing. So, no, I think previous version would win because he was probably slightly angrier. And younger. Yeah, that's true. I think I could beat up previous me. But I also think I'm probably in better shape.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Now. Because I cut out sugar. Yeah, exactly. I'd agree. But I'm also tired now Because I cut out sugar. Yeah, exactly. I'd agree. But I'm also tired now because I cut out sugar. You could do a sugar hit before you take on yourself. That's true. And I have a good 15 minutes in me before I was like, ugh, fine.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Yeah. Inconclusive. Inconclusive. It is. We'll never know, will we? That's true. God damn it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:44 You know what i think i think modern i think current me would probably win because i would just rub my incredible podcast success in his face oh yeah that's right or you'd be like it never went anywhere oh i could trick him yeah i could trick him that's true you wasted your time yeah yeah you could use knowledge of future events to throw him off you could tell him about jared leto's death that's right he'd be real upset wouldn't he because i haven't seen batman v superman or suicide squad yet and i'll be like oh no how how is he gonna put on an incredible joker performance man that's the show yep uh what else future show yeah future show do a thing m, Mason. Do the end. Oh, yeah.
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Starting point is 01:24:02 knows? It's the future or the past. Yeah, what is next? What would next week be? Maybe Star Trek. I don, who knows? It's the future or the past. Yeah. What is next? What would next week be? Maybe Star Trek. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Maybe Star Trek. I have no idea. I can't think three weeks ahead. That's okay. I can only think- Three beaks ahead. Yes. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:24:17 All right, guys. Thanks for listening. Grab that gem, you guys. We'll see you next week. Bye. Or last week, because it's the future now. Oh, quickly. Who's dead? Oh, boy. I last week, because it's the future now. Oh, quickly, who's dead?
Starting point is 01:24:26 Oh, boy, I don't want to curse anyone. I do. Who were you going to say? I'd say Jared Leto. Oh, you did say Jared Leto.
Starting point is 01:24:33 That's true. Yeah. Gerard Butler. My first thought was Stan Lee. That also crossed my mind. Yeah, right. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:24:40 It's too real though. It's too real. Yeah. Did you say Gerard Butler? Yeah. All right, then Katherine Heigl All right, then, Katherine Heigl. Gerard Butler and Katherine Heigl are going to go out in a murder-suicide pact. Anyway, grab that gem, you guys.
Starting point is 01:24:53 We'll see you next week. Bye. What if I'm dead? You'll be fine. No, but what if this goes out and I'm dead? How will you die, though? I've gone overseas. Who knows?
Starting point is 01:25:03 Oh, plane crash. Yeah, plane crash. Mugging gone wrong. You could be crushed to death under like a Las Vegas monument of some sort. It's very possible, yeah. You might fall into that water fountain at the end of Ocean's Eleven. Yes, I could. You might be crushed in the Bellagio's coin vault or whatever.
Starting point is 01:25:20 You might try to do like a weird Chinese acrobat thing and get twisted up like a pretzel in an air vent. So I climb into a box and then just die there. Yeah, you might be killed by Andy Garcia just on the street. Yeah, that's possible. But if I kill him first. That's very true. Yeah.
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