The Weekly Planet - 205 Blade Runner & No More DCEU (with Steele Saunders)
Episode Date: October 2, 2017This week we’re joined by podcaster/comedian Steele Saunders to talk the original Blade Runner! The original, the director's cut and the final cut.Plus we get into the non existance of the DCEU, Ven...om movie casting, more Terminator news, SNOKE, a new MIB spin-off, It sequel news and more! Thanks for listening.Steele Saunders Twitter: https://twitter.com/SteeleWarsSteele Wars Podcast: https://www.planetbcasting.com/our-shows/steele-wars/It Deleted Scenes: https://goo.gl/776H2MDiego Luna Fundraiser:https://donate.omaze.com/mexico7:45 DCEU is no more or whatever14:56 DC Movies aren’t connected as much18:59 Venom movie casting21:20 Terminator 6 or 3 news26:25 Snoke is a lady maybe29:00 Warwick Davis News Corner30:38 It sequel news33:26 MIB spin-off39:01 Denis Villeneuve net film46:50 Blade Runner 2019 Review1:29:56 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:37:01 Letters It’s Time For LettersBuy Blade Runner: The Final Cut on Amazon https://amzn.to/31Y9G2SPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesMr Sunday Movies YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/lB90W2The Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind our T-Shirts here: https://goo.gl/q6gE9C Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet,
official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com where we talk movies, comics, TV shows.
My name is James, also known as MrSunday.
With me is always my host, Nick Mason.
I'm here.
Yeah.
I'm just getting over my footy finals fever.
How'd that go?
Fine.
I nearly ran over sporting commentator Billy Brownless at work.
Oh no.
Yeah. He was in a scandal race. No, someone slept with his wife Billy Brownless at work. Oh, no.
He was in a scandal recently.
No, someone slept with his wife recently or something.
He doesn't need that.
Well, then he's had it too good for too long,
and I'm glad I nearly ran him over.
He should have been paying attention.
Was he like, what are you doing?
Or was he like, ah, you're right. Yeah, he was like, ah.
He was like, goo.
Okay, cool.
If I could describe his expression, it was goo.
Yeah, he seems like a nice guy, by all accounts.
But, Mason, shut up about Billy Brownless for once in your life.
All right.
Do you want to introduce our fantastic guest?
Yes.
Our returning guest to the show.
I think it's our first ever returning guest.
There you go.
Yeah.
Now listen, this week we're going to talk about the cinematic oeuvre of Mr. Harrison Ford.
Correct.
So we figured, who better to bring in than the man who's been closer to Harrison Ford
than anyone else except perhaps his jeweler or his flight instructor from the Steel Wars podcast, Steel Saunders.
How are you, buddy?
Hey, you guys.
He touched my shoulder.
He did.
Yeah.
That's a fantastic interview.
So in 2015, for some reason, they sent out Harrison Ford to Australia.
I think they just went, you know,
something with the longest flight that appeals to him the most.
It was fate.
It must have been.
It was just the will of the force.
And you had an opportunity to speak to him.
You actually managed to like crack his craggly veneer and get a smile out of him.
It's very unusual.
It was crazy.
The weirdest thing was, I was doing it for morning television.
And when he got closer, my, like I began to like have a nervous breakdown.
Yeah.
Because I was like, oh my, he's actually, i was like oh my he's actually like it
was actually he's actually there yeah the man himself solo just looking so good he did look
good yeah and so as he got close to me um in my head i might just get the two questions out do
do two questions and then he looked at i had the steel wars the have you seen him t-shirt on yeah
so it's like a parody of like the missing child thing but it's got luke skywalker a parody of that hilarious that hilarious well it's a parody a skateboard t-shirt
ah yeah that they did in the 80s the search for animal chin which is like so many subcultures
deep yeah and so i'm so nervous at him because i'm like if i didn't want him to like me i just
want him to not hate me. Yeah, totally.
That's a win.
Because that could have really crippled me.
I don't think I'd be here with you today.
You don't come back from that. I think I'd be under one of Meso's trams.
Self-inflicted.
You and Billy.
Oh, actually, that's the one story that I really did wish trams could swerve.
So you could have finished him off.
Bit of a misogynist that's
all i'm gonna say and so he comes up to me and he looks down at my t-shirt yeah and starts laughing
and that just throws me off straight away right like i didn't i wanted to amuse him
yeah but i didn't think i'd amuse him through the lowest form of comedy novelty t-shirt yeah
parody t-shirt yeah but uh no he was he was awesome
he touched me gave me marriage advice he did yeah yeah that's on youtube that's on your youtube as
well isn't it and channel 10 as well is that right i've never met someone that's so successful in a
field have problems pronouncing the medium that you're successful in you said youtube like it was
like a new thing you were just introduced to.
Yeah, I'm trying it out.
It's on YouTube?
I'm pretty old for a YouTube guy as well.
You've got to bear that in mind.
They're all 17 and kicking each other in the dick.
A lot of people are doing that.
I'm not in that field.
Mate.
You don't care for it when I kick you in the dick at all.
No.
I've only put up one of those videos.
We get some of those Harry's shavers onto you and you'll be an underage YouTuber in no time.
Exactly.
I'm going to have to darken my hair, I think, as well.
But I should point out,
it is just an honour to be in the man cave.
Regular room, yeah.
It's good to just sit in a regular room.
It's the same as every other room.
Now, some people tweeted me,
when you were in America, James,
you went on Movie Fight.
I did.
Which is a video medium as well.
Yes.
And a lot of people were like,
did he darken his hair?
Did you dye your hair for the occasion?
I'll save it for the end.
I actually have a funny story, Mason.
Oh, all right.
Oh, good sizzle, good sizzle.
But you always claim that it's not such a man cave.
And I'm not going to describe the room we're in.
Sure, yeah.
But I will leave you with,
I only know one truth.
Okay.
Is that my coffee Is resting on
A pile of loot crates
Yeah
That is true
So
Say no more
We're in the man cave
Yeah
That's right
Make of that what you will
Alright we gotta get in the news
We're gonna talk about
Han Solo's famous performance
In Witness
We all watch different cuts
Of the movie Witness
That's right
We can't wait to get into it
You guys actually said
That's a good movie from memory
It's our new podcast
Bear Witness
Yeah I watch the Amish Extreme Edition Right Yeah Wait to get into it. You guys actually said that's a good movie from memory. It's our new podcast, Bear Witness.
I watched the Amish Extreme Edition.
Right, yeah.
I got confused about the concept.
I thought we were out to watch it naked.
Mason was very put off.
This should make for entertaining podcasting.
All right, this is interesting. Apparently the DCEU doesn't exist.
Oh, thank God.
So forget everything you know,
because the cinematic universe for DC
has been labelled the DC Extended Universe, right?
It turns out the Warner Brothers just poisoned the water supply,
Joker style, and we all hallucinated.
That's it. It's fine. But it turns out that that's never been used by Warner Brothers themselves or
DC that nobody uses it internally and the first time it was coined was in an entertainment weekly
article from 2015 Bresnikan I don't know I don't know who it was it might have been Bresnikan
someone that works with Bresnikan someone who works with Bresnikan and the writer said it was
just intended as a joke to be like,
oh, it's just, you know, I guess it's their DCEU or whatever.
And then it just kind of stuck.
But if you go through every piece of Warner Brothers press,
it's never mentioned.
Apparently they do have a name for it,
but they're going to reveal it soon and you ban a name.
But I guess they just, what do you think they,
what do they call their movies?
So that has never been used in describing the movies.
No.
Or the word good.
Wonder Woman.
Yeah, okay, Wonder Woman.
I feel like Wonder Woman's like, it's off to the side.
Right.
And it's just in its goodness by that.
Sure.
I watched it, I was moving countries when it came out.
Yeah.
So I felt like this secret misogynist that I so wanted to get caught up in the phenomenon of it and how excited people were to see it and it was my secret shame that i
didn't have time to go see it and i finally watched it and so i i have avoided so if i haven't seen
the film that you guys are going to review or whatever yeah i'm like i've got to tap out
and sorry for a m MMA reference on a-
No, no, we got it through context.
Is that right?
Yeah, we sure did.
Did the neck thing.
All right.
Because we're in the nerd news octagon right now, guys.
Seamless, seamless.
Seamless, so good.
Worlds are colliding.
And there was this one bit, and I'm not sure if this is,
because the thing I like, especially like Star Wars,
I'm talking about the films all the time,
it's the things that bug someone that someone else goes,
eh, whatever.
When, is it Steve Trevor?
Yes.
Okay, two first names, can't trust him.
And this is kind of why. When he steals the book from the gas lady.
Yes, right.
Yep.
And he just sort of opens the door and goes and grabs it.
That scene just didn't ring true to me that this amazing book with all these potions was just sitting by this unlocked door that in this busy office you could just lean in and grab it.
And that was my thing of just like
i don't know he had an officer's uniform on yeah and it was back in the day it was in the it was
in the it was in the 10s the teens back yeah just be like listen i really need this and they'd be
like well then he seems like a gentleman there's stories of people like escaping prisoner of war
camps by just finding a nazi uniform and just walking out the door Because there's no, there's no like ID scan or anything.
I go with that.
But how many books did they steal on the way out?
Yeah, that's a good point.
Important books.
Yeah, potentially.
I don't know.
And one thing I know is, you know, ladies are very possessive of their diaries.
You've tried and failed.
Oh, yeah.
So she's just leaving it by, just, it was just that one thing.
And granted, the rest of the film I loved.
Yeah, yeah.
But in my head, the way my chemicals are put together,
that scene, it's just like.
It's not enough.
I'd just, like, I'd have to,
like if I ever got to interview Patty Jenkins, I'm like, hey.
Listen.
That diary, right?
Do you leave it just by the door is that how you're you know living but you know but other than that you thought it was fine it was so it was it was
awesome okay i really loved it and um and yeah and i think we've talked about this before maybe
on on steel wars yeah and you're on but during the batman versus superman it was so trudging and unfun yeah
there's a lot of unfun i think there's really good scenes in that movie but the interconnected
stuff is very but whenever uh wonder woman was on screen with that i was just i was just
just little boy eyes going she's pretty right well by. Well, by the way, James Cameron thinks you're an idiot
because he had some words about Wonder Woman this week again.
Oh, no, but can we just like not mention them?
Really?
Because I feel like after he vouched for Terminator Genisys,
it's like all opinions, done.
You had your chance, buddy.
Back in the submarine.
I'm not bringing this up to be like, I agree with him.
I'm bringing it up just because I think it's a the point it doesn't seem relevant because he's talking
about he's comparing linda hamilton's sarah connor in comparison he's like she wasn't treated as a
sex object there's nothing sexual about her it was all angst and will and determination and she was
crazy and complicated she wasn't there to be liked or ogled but she was central and the audience
loved her by the end of the film. Again, they're different characters.
Like, just because Sarah Connor's a good character doesn't mean that Wonder Woman cannot also
be a different but good character.
No, only one good one.
Only one good character?
Okay, well, he's nailed it, hasn't he?
I think so.
Yeah.
Wonder Woman wasn't there to be ogled.
She's dressed very tasteful, I thought.
If anything, Henry Cavill's there to be ogled.
He's very, very handsome.
We all agree?
We all agree? We all agree? We all agree?
We all agree?
We all agree?
Still?
Mustache or no mustache?
Mustache, obviously.
Okay, good.
More of an Affleck man.
Okay, yeah, sure.
Fair enough, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, good.
I also read today that the Avatar sequels are being filmed with a billion dollar budget.
It's a billion dollars now.
Seems like too much, doesn't it?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
It's a billion dollars too much.
At least.
Yeah, I'm not into it anyway oh
sorry go on do you think we can like raise a budget for him not to make it like do you reckon if we
get like a billion and one dollars i don't think he's about money i don't not anymore no i don't
think there's anything you'd have to give him something that he wants that isn't that can't
be measured in money like what's a what's a really rich crazy man want maybe he
wants like george lucas's head on a plate or something oh he's friends with george lucas
what about if we promise what about that's the perfect president hey what about if we promise
to never bring up that rose could have saved jack on that floating raft yeah okay let's get that a
lot yeah didn't they do that on mythbusters as well and proven what that guy you must be sick of that question it's like 20 years and
they could have both got on the door it was more of a metaphor probably i don't know i don't really
remember you can't trust that but she had the ring she didn't tell anyone she checked in the
water she was a deceptive old lady yeah yeah she was deceptive yeah i'm cool i just don't see a
point i don't i don't see wonder woman as sexualized. That's what I mean.
When I say she's so pretty,
I'm looking at her in a very wholesome,
not lewd,
just like you are remarkably pretty.
I found it.
I found her performance and I don't think she's an amazing actor,
but she was really good in this parole.
The same way that Chris Reeve in the original Superman kind of embodies that.
And he's just like,
they're both towers of like strength and good goodness and humility. And that's, that's the original Superman kind of embodies that. And he's just like, they're both towers of like strength
and goodness and humility.
And that's the way I saw it.
Her performance is very inspiring.
Like she's that, you know,
that like good doing innocent.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Yeah, I loved it.
Yeah.
Well, Mason, you'll love this.
We'll see.
I don't know.
Apparently there's going to be also a de-emphasis
on the interconnected universe in the DCEU.
So they're kind of like, you know, they're doing that solo Joker movie.
Yeah, a series of them apparently.
So like the Aquaman movie is going to be,
it's obviously in the universe, but it's going to be very much separate.
They've just gone, well, Marvel's thing is they're all interconnected.
They're all your friends and they're all hanging out together
and going on adventures together.
DC's is, oh, just doesn't matter.
Joker.
Joker.
Do you think that strategy is admitting defeat?
Because they know they can't make several good movies.
So it's like we'll separate them all.
Yes, I think that's.
So the bad ones won't bring down.
I don't know if it's admitting defeat so much as just a different tactic
because you can't, nobody is able to do what Marvel can do
because this started like 10 years ago.
You can't rush that out.
So this strategy makes sense.
Well, it's even the same way that Marvel started from separate films
and then they brought it together.
It wasn't always super interconnected.
It was, but not the way that it is now.
Yeah, it was very subtle.
Yeah, that's right.
Whereas in Batman v Superman, it it was so like they had a
trailer in the middle and lex luthor had gone to like his art department and go do up logos for
all these people for my files the i don't know the whole thing like how they had that hint at
like i'm not like a dc person sure but mason get him don't get him person sure but Mason get him dog get him
I'm outsourcing
get him dog
Star Wars you guys
Star Wars you guys
if it didn't happen
a long time ago
I don't want to know about it
but
like how they hinted
at that flashpoint thing
yeah yeah
and it's like
so you're hinting
at rebooting
the canon
immediately
when you're halfway
through a movie
it's the first in the canon
did you understand
that at the time or you were just like,
that was very strange?
I just thought he was on like the bat juice.
Right, yeah.
And he needed to lay off.
Yeah.
Bat feces is an hallucinogen potentially.
There's a lot of them in that cave.
Great.
Good on him.
I'm excited for whatever they're doing, I guess.
Justice League, I don't know how that's going to go.
I mean, are you excited for that kind of
yeah yeah Mason kind of yeah yeah I've achieved I was having a conversation with some of the other
day regarding those uh you know the Now You See Me movies right the the magic ones they're just
good enough I mean they're not good but they're just interesting enough yeah you kind of want to
see a sequel just to see what they'll do in it and it's it's the same thing okay they've just
they've got just enough in them that i'm like yeah i'll see justice league yeah okay how bad
could it be i'm just not emotionally connected to it so i don't care yeah right yeah yeah do you
know what i mean and the same way with when i go see a marvel film because i haven't read the comics
all the references and stuff that they get sort of wrong.
Yeah, right.
If they do, like it's just like, I don't know.
We sat next to each other in Civil War, the Melbourne screening,
and you had a bloody rollick in good time.
I had a ball.
Yeah.
I had, but I had a really bad day.
Right.
I did get an, I got an email from J. from jj abrams office saying he won't be
able to do the interview like this interview that we're gonna do and so i was having a bad day but
that was that's what i mean about batman versus superman not being fun right like i sat during
that battle in the airport just laughing yeah yeah half like because stuff was funny and then
just laughing because i was just like i can't believe so much is happening.
It just escalates.
Yeah.
That was,
I had just a tremendous,
like,
even though it was a preview screening,
but like $20 of rollicking good fun.
Right.
And,
but,
but I'm not like emotionally connected.
Like when I go into a Star Wars film or I hear Star Wars rumours,
it can affect my day.
Sure, yeah.
Or week.
Ooh.
Yeah.
Ooh.
Good Lord.
How far are we going to go?
Month.
Going backwards.
Oh, what?
Flashpoint.
Well, then you'll not care about this news.
Michelle Williams will join Tom Hardy in the Venom movie.
Michelle Williams is from Brokeback Mountain?
Yes, and Dawson's Creek.
I was going to say, if you don't reference her,
she's always from Dawson's Creek.
I don't know how many Oscar nominations you get.
You're from the Creek.
Yeah, exactly.
Venom solo movie.
Venom solo movie.
Venom's wife?
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah, probably.
They seem they're about the same age.
Because Tom Hardy, you might know this, is playing Venom.
This is a movie set inside the Sony Marvel Universe,
which owns Spider-Man,
but it's slightly separate from the regular movies
because Sony and Marvel aren't super connected.
I didn't explain that very well.
But you explained it as well as you could.
Do you know about the Sony Marvel Spider-Man deal?
Yeah.
I listen to the pod every week.
Oh, thanks, man.
I appreciate it.
Good, good.
Yeah, yeah.
Is that a character that you care about at all?
Because Mason's a huge fan.
He's got all the variants and the holographic covers from the 90s.
None of that's true.
That's not, yeah.
Well, man.
He strikes me as a bit of uh like the marvel comics's bob
effect right yeah that like he's got this like real strong fan base yep he looks cool yeah but
so what he acts the fool right yeah but my main interaction with him is in that spider-man 3 film
which was just atrocious yeah absolutely yeah no that's everybody hates that yeah people who made
it hate it
everybody watched it hated it yeah so the idea the idea is to kind of do something close because
there have been some really good venom stories since like i think he started as what a cool
looking character but he's evolved into a lot more than that since and there's different variations
on him and whatnot but isn't weird that he's meant to be like the rival of spider-man initially now
he's kind of like an anti-hero, would you say, Mason?
Like a The Punisher more so?
Kind of like a The Punisher. But also The Murderer.
He's also a murderer.
He's doing less murders these days, I think.
Oh, okay.
So what metal band does he kill people to?
That's a good question.
What year?
90s?
Because The Punisher's got Metallica.
Right.
That's a good question.
Would you go modern or would you go would you go like oh I think
yeah probably
like Slayer
was that too much
that's yeah
not commercial enough
maybe like Disturbed
okay sure yeah
maybe Disturbed
you know that cover
of the Sounds of Silence
that one
yeah
okay gotcha
he's murdering
but he's conflicted about it
you know
yeah
aren't we all
yeah
you know how you guys
are all excited
about Terminator Genisys
you were
and you're even more excited
about the next Terminator film.
Uh-huh.
Yes.
Yep.
Fool me 14 times.
That's right.
Here we go.
See I was
I was more on board
with the next one
if they were going to
continue with this
this awful timeline
that they just keep
ruining constantly
but apparently now
it's a fresh start
which I don't like as much. So we talk I be a mess yeah but towards the end like how they time
traveled into the future yep which just negated it just turned into an episode of rick and morty
yeah but not fun yeah yeah but uh so this next one is terminator 6 or terminator 3 because it's
going to continue apparently after the second sorry no i'll not watch anything because it's going to continue apparently after the second. Sorry. No, I will not watch anything unless it's,
it needs to have like, like a double meaning.
Right.
Like six.
Is it going to be six Terminators or they spell six with a Y or I need
something.
You need something.
Not just copping a six.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
Roman numeral.
Not good enough.
To be fair.
That was me saying that.
That's not the official word from whoever the fuck makes these.
They'll come up with something snappy by the time it comes out.
Like T6?
Yeah, T6.
I don't think they'll...
If anything, they'll go T3,
but even though there was a T3,
because they're wiping everything after T2.
So, yeah.
All my memories.
James Cameron, he's built a tower.
Yeah.
It's going to generate a signal.
We're all going to forget.
But who hasn't made some mistakes since Terminator 2?
Sure, we all have, haven't we?
Quick sidebar. Absolutely. Is it Billy
Brown's related? Because I'm in. I'm very interested.
When you guys were on Green Guy Gliders, did I tell
you my Terminator 2 story? No.
We should say this is a podcast
we recorded together last week which will come out in
two weeks?
Yeah, I think the Terminator universe is confusing.
We'll mention it when,
when it comes out.
There'll be time.
There'll be time.
But I made out with a girl.
Nice.
Nice.
This guy.
Look at that.
High fives all around.
Wait,
you're married.
I'm getting kicked out of the man cave.
In whatever,
it was a week before Terminator 2 came out yeah it's celebration it was your it was your
pre-Terminator 2 at the blue light disco you guys oh yeah hey baby we're all gonna die in nuclear
fire you wanna you're gonna get some of the steel and so I invited her on a date to the cinemas okay
because Terminator 2 was on that the next week And it was packed at the Rosebud Cinema Friday night.
I bet.
First date ever.
Nice.
And I've got this memory burned into my mind.
You know when she's doing the voiceover about Judgment Day was coming
and she's looking at the playground and she gets melted up against the face?
Yeah.
And then there's all fire and then the T-800?
Very good. very good.
Skeleton head comes up in the fire.
And I remember looking at the giant skull fire on the big screen
and I was just like, dates are awesome.
This is every date.
So do you think, wait, so if you weren't on a date,
do you think you would have had a different experience?
You would have been like, this movie's all right. But do you think the wait, so if you weren't on a date, do you think you would have had a different experience? You would have been like, this movie's all right.
But do you think the date made that movie awesome?
Or the movie made the date awesome?
What do we?
I think James Cameron made dating better for me.
Right, yeah, yeah.
Because that was my, I was like, giant flaming skull.
Yeah.
This is the best.
Did that ruin relationships for you for a long time?
Couldn't get enough.
You've made it back to the bedroom and you're like,
just hang on one second, I'll just turn on the stereo.
I didn't speak to her again after that night for about 10 years.
Yeah.
But I've enjoyed all the Terminator films since.
Oh, that's a lie.
That's a lie.
I went in hoping to enjoy them.
Right.
You thought you could recapture the spirit. I didn't mind the't mind the one with sam worthington oh really i hate that
one i watched that very hungover which yeah which like that's a perfect bad cypher i watched alien
versus predator very hungover yeah not bad not bad you know what i think that movie's it's exactly
what it's supposed to be that there's you know it's not great but what do you want? How could they go wrong? If they were just friends from the start.
Yeah, that's true, yeah.
Anyway, so on the topic of Terminator 6 or 3.
T6.
T6.
Apparently they're searching for an 18-something,
18-year-old-ish woman to be the centrepiece of the story
and they're going to embrace Arnold's age
in the way that the outer shell of the Terminator would age,
but the inner stays the same.
He's a big old sack man.
So I guess like the last one, I guess.
Great.
Terrific.
But Tim Miller's doing it.
He did Deadpool.
He's done a lot of really awesome like cinematics for video games.
I'm not ruling this one out, guys.
Okay.
Is anybody else?
You know what this smells to me like?
Teen spirit.
Sarah Connor has a daughter as well.
I think that's what this is.
Okay, right.
This is a secret daughter situation.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
She said...
Because there's some missing time.
Yeah.
Which gives her enough time.
How about this?
I'm ready.
How about this?
I'm ready.
She was prophesied to have the son, John Connor.
Yeah.
And then she getsets pregnant And it's
A daughter
So she gives her away
Oh yes
And then they put her
On the desert planet of Jakku
Yes
Good
And then that's Snoke
Snoke could be a lady now
Did we hear about that?
Oh yeah
Do you want to talk about that still?
I didn't put that in the news
I love where these rumours start
Yeah
Because someone has
Has gotten their snoke
action figure right i believe it was the game stop exclusive with the amazing gold robe yes
it's very which i'm heavily considering uh being my halloween costume i've been thinking about a
fair bit you got the face for it gotcha no you're right you're very handsome keep going Very handsome. Keep going. Goat-headed prick.
And they've disrobed him.
They're like, you know, they've stripped him down.
Sure, yeah. The one thing that has not been seen in the photos is he's got really cool gold slippers.
Really?
Yeah, I'm not sure if that's a spoiler or not, but he's got these amazing gold slippers.
Like just the front like slip-ons or is it like,
is it a full shoe?
What are we talking?
I believe it's a full shoe.
Okay.
So he's got heel coverage.
Yeah, it's important.
But they're very comfortable.
Yeah, yeah.
So anyway, they've taken off his robe and then he's sort of,
he does, he's got curves, the action figure.
Yeah, yeah.
And so they've gone, well, it must be be a girl then let's get some red circles and put
it on youtube right confirmed really big so that's what the whole snoke might be a woman
right that's where it all comes from just by the underneath what you're not meant to see
yeah molding of an action figure which which which would mean that if you were theorising
about the new Star Wars films in 1996,
you'd be like, oh, Luke Skywalker, he's doing steroids,
he's lifting weights.
Sure, yeah, right.
Because they were built.
They really made them big, didn't they?
Six packs for all.
But also, we don't know what the genitals...
I'm sick of females ruining Star Wars, mate.
Thank you.
Finally, someone said it.
I'm sick of six packs ruining Star Wars.
I'm sick of people with six-packs.
Yeah, sure.
We don't know what the genitals of any characters in Star Wars look like.
That's a really good point.
We don't know.
Yeah.
As I've said before, because it was a long time ago,
and technically I guess they're all aliens,
they could all be 100 feet tall.
We don't know.
Because there's no comparison.
You know what I mean?
There's no frame of reference.
Dude, you should have saved that thought
for when we were doing illicit drugs at two in the morning.
You're right, yeah.
What if, man?
There's actually not any...
I was looking for some solid Star Wars news for the week
because you were coming on.
There's not really much this week.
There's like a Battlefront trailer.
Did you talk about Warwick Davis?
Oh, he's been rolling no okay what's
going on there so his new tradition yeah which was only broken actually because of australia
he was in every star wars film except the ones filmed in australia because i guess they couldn't
be bothered sending him over right yeah was to have these cameos. And in the next one, reportedly, and this has come out from makingstarwars.net,
that he's going to be like a gonk droid
that's been retrofitted to battle with other...
Like robot wars?
Yeah.
So I think that one theory could be that they're going to gambling
to see which robot wars.
Yeah.
But it's like you've got the power droid the gonk droid from
star wars and then you've gone to like bunnings or for the american audience home depot sure i'm
intercontinental and got some like saws and like a rotary blade and stuck that on yeah and so warwick
davis is going to be in there i want to see like it get tip tips over and he tumbles out and someone's like there's a guy in
there that's not a robot it's famous character actor warren davis get him okay cool I like I
like this tradition I think he also he's great at hosting panels like watching anything he does on
the celebration every year or not every year. They're now going every two years, aren't they? Yeah.
When he was hosting, I was there when they hosted,
he hosted the 40th anniversary.
Yes.
Seeing him with George was, it was pretty special.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
It was very nice.
Yeah.
Good fun.
Did you see It?
Mason, you saw It?
I saw It.
I saw It.
Have you seen It?
I'm tempted to a bit but then i thought no
you took a pause i saw you steady yourself and you i i i have not seen it yeah it's good i i i
only saw it recently i don't think it's an amazing horror film but i think it's the characters are
fantastic i think it's one of those movies where kids will watch and be like that's terrifying
because i think it's safe enough for like a kid to watch and you know like the same way the original it was and it's scary for a kid
but it's it's better than the original it presumably which i haven't seen have you seen
many years ago i tell you what i do like that i have seen yeah i like the it meme
which is the it's main where it's like the drain hey kid yeah yeah the clown in the curb, like in the little drainage thing going,
come down here, we've got...
Whatever you want.
Yeah, whatever you want.
Yeah.
And for me it would be like, come down here,
we've got more sweet memes and I'd get sucked in.
I've got gold slippers still.
Yeah.
We've got Snoke's genitals.
Come on.
But the It sequel is going to come out September of 2019.
As we've talked about, Mason, it's the adults.
Have we talked about that?
We have not.
Do you know what's the adults?
Yes.
What's the deal there?
Do you know what's the deal there?
Well, it's the kids from the previous movie.
Yes.
All growed up.
Growed up, yes.
And I assume set in the present day, right?
Yes, because the original It story was set in the 50s
and then the adult bit was set in the 80s,
but this story is set in the 80s and the next part's set in modern day okay again i would
like a cool prequel or sequel yes so could we call it it's it's back you know like no but like alien
aliens oh i get you yeah it's so multiple clowns yeah so you'd be saying have you seen it's it's
i haven't even seen It yet.
I guess they could just call it It Chapter Two.
I think it should follow our classic naming convention.
It should be called It Two.
And it's T-double-O and then a question mark.
And a question mark, yeah.
And It's on the front just like, I don't know, maybe.
Or what about To It?
Yeah.
Because it's gone too far.
But this, I'm really looking forward to it.
I did a video on
it deleted scenes
and I talk about
the kind of
the kids picked
who they want to play
the adult versions of themselves
I can link that below
but the only person
who's been confirmed
to have been talked to
was Jessica Chastain
as the adult Beverly
which is a good choice
I think
do you agree Mason?
Red hair
yes
still you have no opinion
because you haven't seen it
nah I'm just glad
you made a video
that wasn't like
hey dickhead
you didn't notice this, did you?
Here's some giant yellow font to prove how much of an idiot you are.
I'm steering away from the yellow font.
Now, again, Steel, this hasn't been revealed yet
because the episode of Green Guide Letters hasn't come out,
but you consider all of James' videos a personal attack on you.
I'm glad you noticed because I've been chipping away at you for years.
The penny's finally dropped.
Men in Black is getting a spin-off movie
connected to the original universe in May 2019.
It exists in the same universe.
The comparison is being made to Jurassic World
in terms of a reboot.
Bad comparison.
So the Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones are in it,
but it's not going to be the Men in Black 23. What, they are in it? No, they're not in it, but it's not going to be the Men in Black 23.
What, they are in it?
No, they're not in it, but it's the universe they're in.
Does that weird universe, do you think they should redesign?
It feels a little dated.
Well, that's the idea.
But you mean the setting seems to be.
Yeah.
Okay, right.
Like that weird kind of Men in Black headquarters is kind of...
No, but that's like a deliberate throwback to like 1950s, 1960s aesthetic.
So you're with it, are you?
Yeah, I mean, what they should do is they should bring the aesthetic back.
If you remember the end of the first Men in Black,
at the end, Will Smith's character sort of revamped the Men in Black
and he's wearing a cool 90s version of the Men in Black suit.
One of the worst things in the world.
It should be set in that aesthetic, I feel.
Like everybody's rocking like snap bands.
Yeah.
What are those glasses he's wearing?
Yeah, Oakleys and snap bands, I feel.
Incredible.
I don't remember the end of Men in Black
because I took that little line way too seriously.
Good work.
Method.
Method.
Yeah.
But what was it? It's in a marble, the very end, if you remember correctly. The work. Method. Method. But he, what was it?
It's in a marble, the very end, if you remember correctly.
The world is in a marble.
Oh, yeah.
An alien planet or whatever.
And he's got tons of marbles.
Yeah.
Which is kind of like your giant Star Wars theory.
It's exactly like my giant Star Wars theory.
I have to say, like, sure, doing a Men in Black reboot or whatever,
it is devoid of ideas.
Sure.
And how about, I don't't know just making some stuff up did you like do you like the idea because i was talking about
seriously doing him um a 22 jumps 22 jumps street sequel in the many black universe with channing
tatum and jonah hill i like that idea same i think that's fun It just sounds like someone was not sober when they came up with it.
Yes.
It could be good.
But I do like the fact that it's in the same universe.
Like that was like, it's a tough one to say anything critical about,
but the Ghostbusters reboot.
Sure, yeah.
You know, thank you, misogynists, for taking out like a nerd's one.
That's the third time you've said misogynists.
Yeah.
No, but a nerd's one.
We're slowly rebranding.
Yeah.
A nerd's one pleasure in life is just to talk about on the internet
how much a movie sucks.
I can think of a second pleasure, but anyway, go on.
Look great.
And the fact that it got all mixed up with all this other stuff,
it's like, oh, you're ruining my fun.
Now I can't critique this film. It's like, are you ruining my fun? Now I, I can't,
I can't critique this film.
Sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I would have been way more on board if it was in the same world and that
existed.
Like just the,
the whole,
like,
I think there's a little bit more creativity in,
well,
we're going to remake this film,
but we're going to link it somehow into the old film.
So it's all matches up.
Like there's less creativity to go.
We're just going to start from scratch and cameos for everyone.
Welcome.
Yeah.
Who's going to be an alien this time?
Michael Jackson's dead.
He wanted,
he wanted to,
yeah.
What is it?
He wanted an actual lead role in that.
And I went,
you know what?
You can be a weirdo.
You can be a weirdo.
Who's not an alien.
Who wants to be in Men in Black.
Yeah.
But I mean, I guess.
He's in Men in Black 2.
Michael Jackson.
Yeah, he's on the screen.
He's like, let me join the Men in Black.
And Ripton's like, get out.
You guys know the Ahmed Best story with Michael Jackson? I do know that story.
Yeah, yeah.
How he was very disgruntled.
Michael Jackson gave him the cold shoulder.
Ahmed Best was going to be, wanted to be Jar Jar Binks. No, Michael Jackson. No, sorry. Michael Jackson wanted to be jar jar binks no sorry michael jackson wanted to be armad best playing jar jar binks oh i see
mocha yeah and george lucas who's just a weird people person sort of took him to a concert
and natalie portman and sort of went to michael jackson goes oh this is armad best he's our jar
jar as if to say here's that thing you want to like yeah he's the guy who's taking like just
want to do the social experiment of, like,
wonder what this nutbag Michael Jackson's going to do
when he meets our man.
You can't put Michael Jackson in a Star Wars film, though.
I completely understand his choice.
It just completely.
Even if you're not, but if you're not seeing him.
Yeah, but you know, don't you?
Like, the voice.
Yeah, that's true, yeah.
The dance moves, probably, because there'd be a dance sequence.
Yeah.
It would be pretty good, though. Like, yeah. The dance moves probably because there'd be a dance sequence. Yeah. It would be pretty good though.
Like, yeah, I'm going to die.
Yeah.
I don't know if that'd be pretty good, but it would be certainly something.
I just love those Michael Jackson.
You know, he just goes, yeah, like just for no reason.
Yeah, like a cat being kicked.
I'm sorry.
I know you love cats.
I apologize.
And kicking.
And kicking.
Oh, yeah.
Just quickly, the Men in Black screenwriting duo of Matt Holloway and Art Markham are going
to be writing it.
They did Iron Man and Transformers The Last Knight.
Transformers The Last Knight is terrible, but who do you pin that on, really?
And Iron Man famously-
Nobody wrote that.
Yeah, Iron Man, the first Iron Man famously had no real script.
Yeah.
It was just some ideas and they just did some stuff on the day.
Yeah, so.
Just have some fun with it.
Yeah, just have some fun.
That's pretty much what.
So great.
Terrific.
Wait, so do they have anything to do with the prior Men in Black films?
I don't believe so.
Well, it's because it was like, the first one was like 20 years ago,
so presumably not.
People don't get abducted by aliens anymore.
Do you think it's because it's easier to disprove?
To be like, well, your geolocation thing says that you weren't,
you were at a Walmart.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In Facebook.
Yeah.
It's like you updated
your Facebook.
You did a survey.
Yeah,
that's right.
I know you weren't
on the mothership.
Yeah.
But time stopped.
Shut up.
Yeah.
They also did
Punisher Warzone,
which I know you're a fan of.
I like Punisher Warzone.
Yeah, me too.
So there you go.
All right.
We've got one more bit of news
before we get into
our witness.
What did you call it? Witness. You had a good name for it. Bear witness. Yeah, me too. So there you go. All right, we've got one more bit of news before we get into our witness. What did you call it?
Witness?
You had a good name for it.
Bear witness.
Yeah, I fucked that joke up.
Denny Villeneuve,
who's directed the new Blade Runner 2049,
which is apparently amazing,
is going to direct Cleopatra
based on their biography,
Cleopatra Alive.
And the only reason I bring this up
because...
Now, is this a direct sequel or a reboot?
I believe it's a reboot.
Okay.
But it's... I don't know why they... I mean, if this guy's... Now, is this a direct sequel or a reboot? I believe it's a reboot. Okay. But it's...
I don't know why they...
I mean, if this guy's...
It's set in the Egyptverse.
Yes.
It's set in the gods of Egyptverse.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's an...
The Antony and Cleopatra movie,
it's the same universe,
but he doesn't know we're in this.
Right.
Okay, gotcha.
I don't know why people are still
doing these swords and sandals movies
because they're generally terrible.
It's all about slippers.
Yeah, it's all about slippers these days.
You know that better than anybody else.
He's obviously a great director.
He could pull this off, but I don't understand.
Do you care about this?
Well, no, I don't, but they want another Gladiator.
That's the yardstick.
They're like, okay, people lost their minds over Gladiator.
It was a blockbuster, but it was also a good movie.
We can do it again.
I'm the director to do it.
Has there been a more poignant stroking of wheat?
Never.
Maybe in 300.
Maybe in Interstellar.
There was probably some wheat stroking in Interstellar.
There's an idea for one of your little videos.
Okay, top 10 strokings of wheat you've missed.
Yeah. That's a little bit less. Oh little videos. Okay, top 10 strokings of wheat you've missed. Yeah.
That's a little bit less.
Oh, you put in you would have missed.
I thought it was trying to be more positive.
No, I have to go that way with it.
Man of steel?
I reckon somebody stroked some weed in man of steel.
Yeah, probably more long grass, I want to say.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can't confirm it.
I'll have to look into it, obviously.
Maybe it's a project we can work on.
I reckon there was probably some wheat stroking in the first Man in Black, too.
Maybe.
I'm also partial to that flower.
They blow it and stuff goes everywhere.
It's quite like it symbolises lost youth or something.
Yeah.
That's good.
Yeah, I get it.
Writing with your best ones of them.
Please do.
Hashtag weekly planet pod or at still Saunders.
What's your main Twitter handle for that?
At Steel Wars.
At Steel Wars.
That's right.
I like to keep away from the bullies.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
All right.
Well, we're going to talk about Blade Runner 2019,
which is not the name of it, but it's the year that it's set
because the new one's Blade Runner 2049.
I've watched a few documentaries on the making of,
and we thought the best way to tackle this classic
from cinematic history is we'd all go away
and watch different versions.
There's seven different versions,
so we didn't watch all of them.
We watched the kind of main ones each.
Do you want to just give general thoughts on that
before we kind of get into what this movie in general?
Full spoilers, by the way.
Is everyone okay with full spoilers in this room?
Is everyone listening okay with full spoilers?
Your silence speaks volumes.
Here we go.
It was released in 82, guys.
Yeah, but you'd be surprised.
What's the statute of limitations on spoilers for?
Like, what is the...
Even if it's a classic, how far...
Like, again, it's...
What's 82?
30?
35 years.
Guys, the island on Lost, it was a marble in an alien's bag.
What?
No, I don't know.
I think it depends.
With like a...
For the modern blockbuster, I think it's two weeks.
Wow.
No, genuinely.
Okay.
But I think...
No, no, I only say that...
82 is outside the window, so...
No, I mean that in turn.
I'm not saying you should go any of your way to spoil it for people,
but if you get spoiled by that point
and you really wanted to see it,
you probably should have gone out.
I understand you may have broken your leg or whatever
and you couldn't do it,
but I'm just saying a little bit of that's on you
if you haven't,
if you've just been going on the internet
looking at everything and whatever.
If you really wanted to see it
and you've broken your leg,
two weeks is more than enough time to like get a viral twitter campaign going to get like the stars of
the film to come visit you at your house and do a screening you know exactly yeah you're just being
lazy if you haven't seen it by then it's two weeks is that brutal i think it depends on what medium
you're going to spoil it on so right yeah like if's a Star Wars movie and it's a Star Wars podcast
and the film is out, you're done, son.
Yeah, you're right.
You shouldn't be listening to a Star Wars podcast
if you haven't seen the Star Wars movie.
But as you know, because you do your podcast directly
after seeing the new Star Wars movie, you have to say at the start,
this is for spoilers because you'll probably get at least a few complaints.
Yeah, we do one direct.
So we have the midnight screening and then at 2 30 in the morning we'll have a big live
review podcast with like comedians and stuff and i remember the first one we did for the force
awakens i went to the venue and i'm talking to the bounce and bounces like oh we're really excited
about this this gig and stuff and um you know we all love star wars and he goes but can i just make
one request and i'm like like, sure, bouncer.
And I'm sort of like relieved because I'm scared of bouncers.
Yeah, right.
Because like, you know, they're big men and I'm like,
I look like a big man, but inside, little boy.
So I was like, oh, he's accepting me.
He's not going to like put me in a headlock or anything.
And he goes, oh, just like,
we won't have a chance to see the film because it's the premiere.
So can you just like keep it no spoilers? And I was like, oh, just like we won't have a chance to see the film because it's the premiere. So can you just like keep it no spoilers?
And I was like, oh, you are bumming, dude.
You're going to be beating the crap out of me.
Did he come up and say anything afterwards?
No, he just went outside.
Okay, that's good.
Yeah, yeah.
Took a knee.
Took a knee.
Good on him.
It's all our rights.
It's all our-
I glassed like six people in the interim.
I couldn't do anything.
It wasn't even there.
But I was asking the other day about like all the different variations
of Blade Runner and how we had to watch each one each.
Yeah.
And, you know, I was like, I just threw it out there.
I said, if only a top shelf YouTuber had made a video explaining
all the differences, bit of green font. Yep. Bit of red circle.
You know, maybe an ad in the middle.
Maybe an ad at the end.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But no.
Didn't happen.
It's weird.
As a Star Wars fan, does that make you a Harrison Ford fan by default?
Are you more inclined to be like, I'll see everything he does?
I'll say Firewall.
I'll say Hollywood Homicide.
That.
Oh.
I've got a story about that but um it all fell
apart with the mosquito coast okay because you know you watch blade runner it's like it's a bit
action yeah a lot slower than star wars i remember when i was a little kid and seeing a little photo
in the herald son of like harrison ford about to film indiana jones i'm not sure which one it was
but i had a photo of him dressed as Indiana Jones and I said to my mum,
Mum, why is Han Solo sick?
Because he had stubble.
I thought he was unwell.
Hollywood Homicide, I was staying in a hotel
on Super Bowl weekend about a decade ago.
So I think we've passed the spoiler for this story.
I can spoil the rest of my Sunday.
Everyone's lived through that Sunday.
Yep.
And a guy knocked on our door really early saying,
oh, we need you to move your car because there's a film crew.
And I was quite hungover and I'm like, yeah, who's in the movie?
And he goes, oh, Harrison Ford.
And I just, I've never, I wish I had security footage
of how quickly I got out of bed and moved down.
The ultimate hangover cure.
Yeah.
But funnily enough, on Super Bowl Sunday,
Harrison Ford was not on the set.
Oh, man.
It was just a car going past up Hollywood,
I mean, up Sunset Boulevard many times.
Okay, right.
There's an amazing scene in that movie where he steals a bike
off a little girl and then goes, ah!
And he like yells at her.
It's really, it's very funny.
I bet you'll look that up.
Yeah.
It's where I also really noticed that he's run.
Here's one weird Harrison Ford moment you might have missed.
It's where it was also, I remember watching that and going,
oh, Harrison Ford's kind of lost his run
because he does that kind of loping kind of run.
It's the first time I remember seeing it.
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Anyway, general thoughts on Blade Runner.
Mason, you hate it.
Why?
Look, I hate it.
Here's the thing.
I don't hate it, but I kind of do hate it.
But I had to watch it during high school for English or literature or something.
Yeah.
And so the idea of having to break it down thematically against my will has always left a bad taste in my mouth.
So have you, how many, which version have you seen, Steel?
Which?
I'd watched, the original version's the voiceover, yeah?
Correct, yeah.
Okay.
Because I got confused.
I always thought the second version was voiceover.
And so then when I was watching the one that I thought
was the second version, it didn't have voiceover, I was second guessing myself that I thought was the second version that didn't have voiceover,
I was second guessing myself.
I'm like, am I watching Mason's one?
Is it going to be an argument?
So I watched the original version,
the theatrical cut,
which has a narration by Harrison Ford,
which apparently was added,
there was a few screenings,
test audience were very confused as to the
nature of the the film and what was happening and so then the narration was added in and really scott
did not want to want it in there harrison ford apparently didn't want to do it the story goes
that he did it so badly that he thought they wouldn't use it but he since said that i didn't
intentionally do it badly like i did like a like dry reading of it, but the dialogue itself is horrible.
See, that's the thing.
It's, I initially went in, I'm like,
well, I haven't seen this version in a really long time.
Maybe it's kind of like, you know,
it's that hard-boiled gumshoe kind of like,
you know, old style Maltese Falcon-like narration
where he's like, yeah, but what is life anyway?
Kind of thing.
It's literally just him explaining what is currently happening or what is going to happen yes just have um i think
i mentioned this before on the podcast but i like the story that in 1990 barry levinson released a
movie called uh avalon which is sort of like this it's this movie set in like the 40s and 50s and
it's this tale that's this sort of immigrant family that uh grew up in baltimore
and it's kind of like based on his kind of real life experiences and stuff like that and he
famously was like i don't want any test screenings for this oh you you know people either gonna like
it or not like it i'm not doing any changes this is it and the the movie executives came at him
and they're like no no we do the test screenings and we get rid of things people don't
like we change things so people understand them better and that's how it works and that's how you
make a kind of a hit movie and then he got out like the test cards for his previous movie which
is rain man and he got out a test like a a test card an audience an audience member had filled
out after they'd seen the first screening of it and it said, why didn't he just snap out of it?
And they're like, oh yeah, fair enough.
So what I'm saying is test audiences don't know anything and you shouldn't trust them
because this is some bad narration.
It's not his fault.
So Tom Cruise sort of shaken Dustin Hoffman
until he snapped out of it.
Shaken man hard enough, yeah.
But like the Blade Runner narration,
it's literally just like,
there's
there's a scene where he goes to into a bathroom he's looking for clues he finds a scale and it's
and it's like well this this this scale isn't from a replicant replicants don't have scales
must be from something else that isn't a replicant the bit yeah yeah the bit that really stands out
for me is towards the end after roy Batty does his amazing monologue,
which we can talk about in a bit.
And he ends it with all these moments that I've witnessed of something along the lines
of have been lost like tears in rain and it cuts to Harrison Ford looking for Lorne.
And then you just hear it.
He's in a monologue go, I don't know why he decided to sacrifice himself.
It's like, yeah, we fucking get it.
Like relax.
decided to sacrifice himself it's like yeah we fucking get it like yeah relax well i cheated because i watched it with my friend tim who's a big blade runner fan and he did provide a fair
bit of narration so i got this new edit yeah yeah sure it's a tim cut do you recommend it
very informative okay very informative i am has it got the bit where you pause it and go to the bathroom
and then come back yes there was that bit actually there was that bit i live in la so any movie or tv
show that's actually set there it's it's kind of exciting right yeah yeah so the that happens
whenever we see a movie set in melbourne ghost rider that jackie chan movie that i saw being
filmed once the wog boy the
wog boy just to be clear that means a different thing here than in england but uh yeah sorry god
it's a more tolerable form of racism yes the so where he goes to the replicant office where he
sort of gets reinstated or they're like you gotta do it yeah yeah we need you yeah that's union station okay
right which if you're a big movie fan that's where the final touching scene of can't hardly
wait was filmed oh no one's gonna know to speak okay no and also it's got a very fond place in my heart because that's where i get the train to san diego
comic-con every year so whenever i walk down that thing and it's it's way better lit these days i
have to say i'm always just like about to have the best five days ever and that and you say that
that's interesting because he uses a lot of very familiar locations from other movies and people
like the production company were like don't use this building because it's in everything and he's gone you know what really scott was like yeah not the were like, don't use this building. Cause it's in everything.
And he's gone,
you know what really Scott was like,
yeah,
not the way I film it.
It's going to be different.
And it's incredible.
It looks great.
Honestly,
it does.
Are you a fan in general still?
I thought it was good.
It's almost like I was wondering while I was watching it,
if I would enjoy it more,
if it wasn't Harrison Ford,
right?
Because I'm looking at him and I'm just like, oh, I'd love to watch Return of the Jedi about
now.
Because I'm looking at his real Return of the Jedi head.
Yeah.
This time could be spent.
He does have a very Return of the Jedi head.
Yeah.
I could be watching Jedi.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I was wondering if maybe having someone else would distract me from his Harrison,
like reminding me of other things I enjoy.
Sure.
Absolutely. Yeah. But it's pretty slow. distract me from his reminding me of other things I enjoy sure absolutely yeah but
it's
it's pretty slow it is
yeah and it's also one of those films
which I kind of like
but sort of feel deceived
by when you don't know
when it's the final sequence
right do you know what I mean depending on what
version you're watching as well oh okay yeah I guess
I guess on the Mason's one it's like as we entered the last 30 minutes of my story
the tension was mounting but it's sort of like like in a star wars film they have a big meeting
and they're like you go do this and you know there's a big hologram in the middle yeah what's
going on yeah you know in like a marvel film or whatever, there's sort of like a, like, it's like, we're all,
we're going to do this now.
Iron Man puts a fresh suit on.
Yeah, exactly.
But this one, it's like a stream of consciousness.
Yeah, it just sidles from the start to the end without any sort of like
something telling you like, here's the finale.
It's coming up.
Yeah.
But with the locations locations i went into that
building about a month ago right right where the um the final yeah where the guy that made the
robots the little midget robots which i popped huge when those little robots came out i don't
know what that means moving on yeah it must be an australian thing so i keep going i popped huge i
don't know what that is oh if anyone here that listens uh
is into wrestling that oh okay not a boner thing not a boner thing it's a cheer thing
sounds like a boner thing though doesn't it sounds like a boner thing it's an enthusiasm
boner you guys okay okay that's fine but yeah in downtown la they've got all these you know
famous landmarks with little pictures of what was filmed there and stuff.
And, yeah, you can go in and go up those elevators.
Okay.
It was really cool.
Yeah, yeah.
But it was weird because it's set in 2019.
Yes.
And it's in LA.
So you have to do that thing of just like, come on, guys,
like raining.
Yeah, yeah, seriously.
And people are out in the rain.
They're not running in fear from it. I guess they're just used to it. My hair plugs. Yeah, yeah. Seriously. And people are out in the rain. They're not running in fear from it.
I guess they're just used to it.
My hair plugs.
Oh, God.
People don't go to work.
Yeah.
People cancel meetings.
I was being in LA recently.
It rained and people were like freaked out.
People were just driving cars off cliffs.
So the rain, that threw me off.
No mobile phones.
Oh, yeah.
He has to go to a pay phone.
Dude.
But it's a pay video phone.
There was not one single iPhone repair screenshot.
That's right.
Yeah, that's true.
And not a single vape store.
No.
A lot of newspapers as well.
Well, we've still got them.
We've still got them there.
Yeah, do we?
When's the last time you saw someone reading a newspaper?
I read one this morning.
My parents get them.
Okay, well, there you go.
I saw my reflection.
I saw my reflection.
I can understand why people would think this is kind of slow and boring
because for a modern film, it is.
I feel like if I came to this fresh, like I'd never seen it before,
I'd probably dislike it.
I like it quite a bit because I think that's more from a perspective of this had never been done yeah like there's a lot and there is a lot
of like slow lingering shots of like buildings with flying cars going through and massive atari
neon signs and whatever every atari yeah absolutely thrilled but you know now in a movie it's like
you can't get away with shots like that because it's boring
because we've seen it a thousand times since because so many movies have aped blade runner
so you can't have seen all of those even like ghost in the shell which isn't great just looks
like a reinterpretation of blade runner it's interesting at all it also when they do these
long establishing shots the the music is sort of it's it infuses it
with this sense of wonder yes which now to me doesn't really work right like in the sense that
if if i was watching a movie like this now it wouldn't have like you know it we're going we're
going across the city in this in this flying car and it's like it's like this but it'd be more kind
of sinister and yeah this is a ruined city this is a ruined world but it's like is it's it's like this but it'd be more kind of sinister and yeah this is a ruined city this is a ruined
world but it's like is it's it's still got this element of like isn't this amazing we'll show you
through song yeah i think it had a bit of the uh the coruscants about it yes yeah well coruscant
looks like a direct knockoff of especially in attack of the clones it's got the fire spewing
out of the whatever remember that that bit in the chase sequence?
Yes.
There's a lot of Blade Runner in that.
But not arguably, I think it's without a doubt,
Blade Runner is a better looking film than Attack of the Clones.
It's interesting because everything in Blade Runner
is either wet or dusty.
Right, yeah.
It's that idea of a used future which George Lucas created.
There's no, like even rich people don't seem to be devoid of dust.
No.
I guess it's implied that there's been some horrendous wars and there's obvious food shortages
and people are crammed in together.
And it's a future where they haven't invented like full room lighting yet.
Yeah, right.
But every room in that world is next to the brightest thing ever yeah absolutely
hey should we move the lamp in no no yeah well the the reason behind that there's some original
blade runner concept art which is very crisp and very clean and the reason they dirtied it up dark
smoke is because it hides a lot of the budget limitations so a lot of these choices stylistically
uh it's it's it's it's yeah they had to do it essentially yeah well if they lit it better it hides a lot of the budget limitations. So a lot of these choices stylistically,
they had to do it, essentially.
Yeah, well, if they did it better,
you'd be able to see the sign saying,
this is where Blade Runner was filmed.
Yeah, that's right, exactly.
Yeah, but action sequences,
I saw a documentary recently, it's called,
hang on, I'm just going to, I can't remember. Oh, there's another, one of my favourite pieces of narration.
The Edge of Blade Runner.
I felt bad that I had to shoot her in the back,
but I guess I shot her in the back.
That's what I did.
I'm shooting women in the back.
The shoot, I was like, for some reason,
when anyone got shot.
Yeah.
Like when Daryl Hannah got shot and stuff,
I was like, oh.
Come on.
Yeah, when the girls got shot, I was.
Yeah.
I just wasn't expecting it.
I think I was expecting them to last till the end.
I think that's what's interesting about his character, though,
because you can see he's conflicted because he sees these people machines
as toasters, you know, and he's just doing his job.
So he'll happily shoot one in the back,
but then he meets one that he's kind of attracted to,
and he's like, oh.
He gives her his special toast. Yeah yeah it's a very odd scene we don't we don't i guess we don't
really know what any of the previous versions of the the the replicants were like no these are the
most advanced ones the most human like so for all we know the rest of them were just kind of
like weird plastic face yeah oh like the personality of like the t800 or whatever
but these these ones have
like nuance and subtlety and yeah for everyone listening at home james just did the best robot
act out with his arms i got up i did a little dance yep mr roboto but the look this isn't
yeah i in this um documentary it's called the edge of what's i just had the edge of blade runner
it's from like
15 or so years ago but uh really scott talks about one of the things he wish he changes was
more action sequences and because they're they are kind of few or far between but the ones that
in it are quite good there's one amazing shot where he pulls his gun on the the replicant and
it just slaps it out of his hand do you remember that that's incredible right it's not just me
it's like a split second but it's really well shot.
And he's just getting the shit kicked out of him.
He gets beat up a lot.
But that's followed by a very, very terrible squib effect
where Rachel shoots him in the head.
Yes.
And it just sort of appears on his head like a plastic rose.
They were like, don't move.
Don't move a muscle.
We're going to stop filming.
We'll stick it on your head and then we'll restart filming again.
Oh, the classic pause and replay.
Yeah.
You don't see that much anymore, do you?
Because it's bad.
And you can't put a squib in someone's forehead, I guess.
That's true, yeah.
What if it goes in turtle?
Yeah, exactly.
The irony.
The irony, exactly, yeah.
But no, I think the last action sequence is quite harrowing.
I think that holds up really well where Roy Batty's chasing him
through the house and he's punching holes in walls
and you see him grab his hand and he's just methodically
breaking his fingers and then gives him his gun back.
It's like this cat and mouse game where Roy Batty's breaking down
and Harrison Ford's just getting absolutely hammered.
I love it.
I have to give a big shout out for the head through the wall.
Yes.
He puts his own head and decides to go, hey.
Yeah.
I mean, Harrison Ford Yeah. He's,
I mean,
Harrison Ford is good in this,
but Rutger Hauer is amazing,
right?
That's not just me.
Oh no,
he's great.
Yeah.
Not that I know that much about the universe,
like the comic book universe,
but it sort of reminded me of like Joker and Harley Quinn,
the Daryl Hannah.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's all playful doing flips. And, she's all playful, doing flips,
and then she's like, got her in his vag
and just squashing his head.
Sure, absolutely.
Which I remember watching when I was a little kid
just thinking that'd be conflicting.
Yeah.
Like you're in pain, but you're like,
I'm really close to a female right now.
Sure.
This is going to be awesome.
Like Goldeneye?
You're a big fan of that sequence in Goldeneye?
I'm not aware.
It's a bit where Xenia... I'm all over the Nintendo the nintendo universe of golden eye sure i don't think this is in the
game but okay she does a similar like vice like grip and he's head and tries to was it head or
he's ribs it's his ribs yeah because she suffocates him well both harrison ford and pierce brosnan do
a lot of hurt acting really well a lot of like i can't really do it but you know what i mean yeah yeah
there's a lot of that he reprises or maybe it was before but he does the exact same face at one bit
when he's getting punched as when he comes out of the carbonite it's the same bit of like i'm dazed
yeah you recognize that moment yeah i get you oh. There's a specific sequence that I want to talk about here,
if you don't mind.
Please.
There's a very long enhancement looking at a photograph scene.
Yep.
We recently played the Blade Runner video game from 1997,
and you do the exact same thing.
That'll be up this Tuesday on Caravan of Garbage.
But, like, it's shots like that.
It's like, you could move this along.
It's like, left, up, yep, zoom in there.
Where?
Like it's so vague, you know what I mean?
It's like G6.
What?
Like none of it's labelled.
How is he doing any of this?
And it's that amazing.
He's a professional.
Yeah.
It's hands free.
Predicting the future thing where you've got this technology
that still doesn't exist.
Like Siri was just off her chops finding like
newing all these things to zoom in on but it's on this tiny rounded screen yeah exactly yeah
it's like should have worked on the screen but it's like oh yeah what about if we did it on a
flat screen it's like oh flat screen oh no one will believe that i'm gonna keep some realism
yeah exactly yeah i mean i do i do like a universe and the alien isolation
video game did that really did this really well where it takes a futuristic but movie made in the
past and kind of updates it for the i'm wondering i'm wondering how much of that they're going to do
in the new one is basically what i'm going to say are we going to be getting curved screens and
whatnot or do you think they're going to steer clear of that i hope they stick with the aesthetic
because that was the one cool thing.
There was many cool things.
But in The Force Awakens, how all the display screens and that was still, you know, quite 70s and retro.
And I've seen in one of the trailers, I did cop an Atari logo, I'm pretty sure.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah.
I love it.
I love that they put all their chips on Atari. So apparently there's a lot of Sony stuff in this new one as well.
What's a Sony film?
What do you know?
There's a Sony Lenovo.
Is that a Sony one?
I don't know.
No, that's not Sony, is it?
I don't know.
I don't know anything about Sony computers.
Sony Viya.
You think of the Viya.
I am thinking of Sony Viya.
But it's just in like a wooden box.
It's a tiny little screen.
But it's a touchscreen.
It's a tiny one.
There was one quite disturbing thought I had while watching it.
The Rutger Hauer, is that what you say?
Yeah, that's right.
Something like that.
When he gives that amazing, like he gives that really cool line at the end about.
I've seen fires off the blah, blah, blah.
No, it was another.
What was that line he said? um oh the light that burns brightest burns half as yeah yeah yeah yeah and i was just like they're gonna try to get
jared leto saying all these poignant lines yeah he seems like he's the go-to guy for that in this
film yeah and the other thing i'm really worried about, that if he's just overdoing it and eating it,
the news that it was meant to be David Bowie.
Oh, is that really?
Yeah.
That's a shame.
Real shame.
So it's just like, hey, knife, let's just twist it.
Let's just pour some vinegar down there.
He seems, Leto, I know he's like 43,
but he seems a bit young for that for that role as
this experience like in a robotics genius there's a there's some short film set like 10 years before
this current one or in like 2032 where he looks exactly the same so the robotics created from the
original blade runner i i get and it looks like a guy who's just been doing this since he was like
15 a bowtie nerd a bowtie
nerd but you know what i mean is that um apparently jared lito is great and whatever but that is
that's that's a shame doesn't look like this guy has experienced any wedgies at all
tyrell in the first one yeah so many bloody wedgies isn't there some weird thing that that
tyrell corporations in the alien yeah they're all loosely connected yeah alien is connected to blade runner
and something predator obviously because they're all kind of interlinked but yes so like the way
the new tani logo is in one of them or vice versa so so could you head cannon it that if they ever
got back to earth in alien it would look like blade runner i would say yeah i would say so
yeah i would say it say it's pretty much confirmed
that they are the same universe.
Would you put that confirmation in impact font
with a black line?
I think I have.
I've done a video on same universe,
like shared universes or something, yeah.
Look, it's probably not official canon,
but there's a lot of links between Blade Runner and Alien
because they're both Ridley Scott films.
Are they both currently owned by the same company?
I think Fox is Alien, so no.
Okay, right.
Well, it'll never happen.
Yeah, you're right.
And look, not everything has to be interlinked as well.
There's a weird sequence where Harrison Ford goes to a strip club,
an exotic dancing fair, if you will.
I enjoyed whatever Ridley Scott's interpretation
of exotic dancing was.
Just sort of bikini
women in hockey masks.
Just sort of grooving a little
bit. Yeah, sure, yeah.
But he puts on
a voice and a character.
Yes, he does, yeah. His nerd character.
That's right. I remember watching it and I was like,
oh, I don't remember this at all.
He didn't have glasses, but he was doing the metaphorical equivalent of constantly pushing
up his broken glasses.
It was like when Homer Simpson makes fun of Milhouse.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's strange also because she doesn't know him.
Yeah.
He could just come in and go, I'm from this.
This is who I am.
And also, she figures it out almost immediately that he's not who he says he is.
The whole thing is pointless.
Yes.
No, no, but that's the genius.
It takes a great actor to portray a bad actor in the movie.
Oh, okay.
So he just made the wrong call.
Is that what you're saying?
No, no, because it was like was like well the character is a bad actor
and i'm such a good actor i have to use all my acting skill to act like a bad actor yeah
well i guess he's not he's not a good guy and he's not necessarily the smartest guy either
that becomes that's very apparent in this film how dare you he's got skills man he does saying
enhance he forces himself on a robot woman. Oh, yeah, that's true.
That's strange.
But, yeah.
Do you want to talk about some of the differences between the versions?
I've listed some.
Can I just ask, is there like a theory that he's a replicant?
Oh, yeah.
Do you want to get into that now?
Sure, let's do it.
That's different depending on what version you watch.
Oh, okay.
Well, I shouldn't have stepped on your segue there.
No, no, it's fine.
We're good.
We can go anywhere.
This podcast is a free-for-all mason i'm spiraling help no god it's true what
chris hardwick says about the freedom of podcasting go where we want anything at all
mason your version he's not a replicant no yes in my version he is not a rebel and why is that well in because he
doesn't say it he doesn't expressly say it in in this in that version um he just has a one train
of thought that's just all o's and ones yeah that's right yeah yeah well it's not so much that
there's any clues that he isn't a replicant in it it's just it's never it never occurs to
yeah movie to present any clues that he is a replicant in it. It's just it never occurs to the movie to present any clues
that he is a replicant.
Yeah.
It's more in the director's cut where we see the clues
that he might be or, well, that he definitely is.
Yeah, absolutely.
Because the versions that we watched are mostly the same.
There's a few slight variations.
But, yeah, the original is kind of definitive in terms of,
like, there were theories after the movie came out
because it did well. It had a really big cult following and people kind of definitive in terms of like, there were theories after the movie came out because it did well.
It had a really big cult following and people kind of theorized, but the director's cut,
which came out and there was an unauthorized release in 1990 that accidentally shipped
it.
So it got screened and people were like, this is way better.
And so it got rid of all the...
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
How do you accidentally ship an unauthorized version?
I don't know.
It's the nins, man.
Everyone was just high on...
Saved by the bell.
Yeah.
I was trying to think of that.
What was the big drug in the 90s?
Saved by the bell.
You're right.
Yeah.
But yeah, so...
Hey, Mason, you got any Screech?
You know what to do.
You don't want to take Screech.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
Some dust and diamond dust.
Yum, yum, yum.
Yeah, so it kind of...
So that's... They put in a few sequences,
the unicorn dream sequence.
I've got questions.
You've got questions?
Yep.
Go, go for it.
What the hell was that?
Okay, so the implication is that the guy from Battlestar Galactica,
Gath, is leaving around the guy with the hat who comes arresting him.
He's got the weird eyes.
Arrests him at the start and is like, we've got to take you into the precinct or whatever. He's got the weird eyes. Arrests him at the start.
And is like, we've got to take you into the precinct or whatever. He's got a little hat.
Which Battlestar Galactica are you talking about?
The new one.
Pre-boot, yeah.
Edward James Olmos.
Yeah, yeah.
And he's in the new one as well.
Was Edward James Olmos in the film?
He was almost.
No, he was.
He was in it.
Definitely.
I saw him the other day.
Really?
Where?
At a screening of Selena.
Which one's that?
Selena's like the story played by Jennifer Lopez
and it's like this
it's a real story
about an up-and-coming
Spanish singer
that was getting really big
and then her manager killed her.
Jesus.
But they had a screening
at Hollywood Forever Cemetery
and they always get someone
from the film.
Did you say cemetery?
Yeah.
Okay.
There's this one bit
where they have a fielding
with dead people
and they have people sit there with time to kill, I guess.
But they have big screens there all the time.
And, yeah, he was there to say,
we loved making Selena.
It was good.
We went and saw, what was it called?
A really old film, right?
Okay.
And I was wondering who the guest was right? Okay, I'm listening.
And I was wondering who the guest was going to be and I was joking.
I'm like, oh, they'll probably give a shout out
to someone that's dead in the cemetery.
And the guy said, oh, tonight we've got Cecil Teter Mill.
He's buried over there.
And we've dug him up.
Wow.
Weekend at Cecil's.
Weekend at Cecil's, yeah.
We're a little short on seat fillers, but it's fine.
So yeah, Edward James, it's hard to...
Yeah, Edward James almost is Gaff.
Yes.
Who's the guy with the little hat and the...
He's filled out a little over the years,
which is why he's hard to recognize.
He still looks all right, yeah.
But basically, he's leaving around the origami unicorns
throughout the film.
Little stick figures and little bits and pieces.
And Deckard realises that the reason Rachel is such a realistic robot woman is because she's got implanted memories.
He has a dream where he imagines a unicorn.
So the theory is that the origami unicorns are hints towards that gaff knows that deckard deckard is
a replicant because he knows one of his memories oh and he's messing with him yeah so that's a
so the the unicorn thing well obviously it couldn't have happened it's just an implanted
memory it's in his programming and there was something else there was some other
weird memory similar there was one other of those flashes.
Well,
it's different.
It might be slightly different
because I know
in my version
I watched the
because I watched the final cut
from 2007.
The unicorn sequence
is longer.
But I don't know.
The unicorn was really short.
Yeah.
But I'm just thinking
Harrison Ford gets on it.
He's like,
I'm flying.
I'm flying.
I'm free
of this world. There was a bird.
There was a bird flash
like, you know, 45 minutes
before that in my version.
I might have missed it. Yeah, okay.
No, don't know. Mason? No.
Sorry, Steel. Maybe you've uncovered an
exclusive clue. Sure it wasn't in your
Tim Cut or whatever you're watching.
Maybe. It might be but
yeah i like the the thought that maybe he was a replicant and yes and didn't know because even
with um the the female one like how you know when she's out of the room it's like yeah she's a she's
a robot yeah and then i began to think like that, like if I walked out of here
and you're like, he still doesn't know.
He's a podcasting robot.
He's got no idea.
I do.
I like the ambiguity of it.
And the interesting thing is Ridley Scott has definitively said that he is
and Harrison Ford has said that he isn't.
And I think, and I don't know this because I haven't read any spoilers
from the new film.
That's why they didn't work together for 30 years i just can't handle the truth yeah well nobody liked
each other on this film everybody fought with everybody else people got fired rehired ford
hated ridley scott and vice versa nobody spoke about it for years it was a disaster and uh but
basically i think in the new one i think they're not going to answer it definitively i think it's
going to be something this isn't a spoiler because I honestly don't know this,
where they're just going to,
instead of being he's definitively this or he's definitively that,
I think they're just going to go, look, it doesn't matter.
He's human enough, and that's what's important.
So there are replicants that don't have the four-year death sentence.
Yes, because in Mason's version as well, at the end-
There's a definitively happy ending.
Yeah.
At the end, they go off into the sunset, sunset rachel and decade and there's some decade narration
where he's like luckily rachel doesn't have the four-year expiry date so she's gonna live a normal
life so everything's fine he's not exaggerating that is that is what happens and they because
they the studio was told that it's not it, the ending. Why can't she just snap out of her death?
That's right.
Why not?
The ending of the one that we saw, he just leaves his apartment.
But in the original cut, they take footage from the shining of the countryside
and then it shows them driving away.
So it basically means that outside of Los Angeles,
there is places you can go that isn't a horrible nightmare.
Everything's fine outside of Los Angeles.
It's just, but nobody leaves.
Which is so weird because why would anybody live in Los Angeles, I guess?
Maybe you've got a...
That's actually the most realistic thing.
Why would you leave if you've got a thriving noodle
and forensic analysis business?
One thing I picked up on the lewd side of things.
Okay, here we go.
I don't know if there's maybe more modern films
that would disprove this,
but it's a very rare topless Harrison Ford.
Yeah, right.
There's a little bit in Indiana Jones,
you get glimpses of it, but yeah.
Is he topless?
No, in Temple of Doom he is a little bit.
Okay, I take away my point.
No, no, I agree.
But I would like to emphasize that he is topless.
Okay, I'm going to also say there's a movie from 97
that that horror movie did with Michelle Pfeiffer.
There's a topless sequence in that.
Mason, this is a live reading of 10 topless Harrison Ford scenes
you may have missed.
Dickhead.
There is.
There's a bit.
And he's like 50 plus and he's lying in bed.
What lies beneath?
And he's just got abs.
He's just lying in bed.
Yeah, he looks incredible.
I reckon he's probably also shirtless in that Anne Heche movie.
Seven Days, How Many Nights is it?
Yeah, that one.
Yeah, that one.
I reckon he's probably topless in that.
Yeah. Hit us up when you
find one that's, he's given a hint of shaft.
It's a
scant scent of scrote. Oh, absolutely.
He's never done complete nude, has he?
No, it's not what my red
tube account says. He seems like the kind of guy
who would have done a Playgirl shoot back in the day.
Yeah, yeah. He's got that.
He's got that, he's from that era. He's Yeah, yeah. He's got that. He's got that. He's from that era.
He's got that vibe.
He's got that about him, yeah.
Or at least like the hot bods of the Santa Monica airport.
Yeah, right.
Still, if you do a quick creep around here,
I can show you the what lies beneath the image.
Mason, you are also welcome.
I know, Mason's gone to the toilet.
God, he's cut like a pro wrestling dog.
He's still got it.
How does he do it?
Yeah, great.
He's always been in shape.
Should we wait till Mason gets back from the toilet
or should we just keep talking?
Shut up, Mason.
We're talking.
You don't get to decide what we do once you leave.
Yeah.
One bit of technology I liked was the bubble,
the clear Perspex hairdryer.
Yeah, right.
Let's get them going.
Well, they sort of have those.
Not clear, but they do exist in salons.
Yeah, for the home.
Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
So she's got wet hair and then she puts her head in like the cone of silence
and it puffs it into her hairdo.
Very Jetsons.
It's like those new kind of blade dryers in toilets where you stick your heads in.
Apparently they're gross. Apparently they're supposed hands in. Apparently, they're gross.
Apparently, they're supposed to be cleaner.
Maybe they're grosser.
I don't know.
Who knows?
Yeah, I don't know.
I like the classic just hot air blower ones.
Like the real sort of 90s ones.
With a bit of paper towel?
Double up?
It's not even for the wiping of the hands.
Sure.
It's just sometimes like if you've spilt something on your T-shirt.
Yeah.
And then you can go into the bathroom and go fix it up, heat it up. Heat it up. hands sure it's just sometimes like if you've spilt something on your t-shirt yeah like and
then you can go into the bathroom and go yeah that's very up heat it up you're not putting
your pants in a blade dryer right you come back and you're like no fuss that's right that's a
really good point wow this is this is all good isn't it this is all great content which we will
leave in definitively but what about the memories they insert into her? Yeah. Like, they're so...
They're very weird.
They're weird.
I mean, they're real, though, also.
I've come back on they insert into her.
So, her two memories.
Yeah.
The only two she has.
The only two memories was that her brother showed her his dick
and then she pulled out of the deal of revealing her parts.
Yes.
So what sort of sicko is typing that into a robot's head?
Yeah, but again, in this universe, it's a real memory
because it's his niece's memories that he's put into this robot.
Oh, that's even weirder than asking his niece.
Yes, exactly.
And that's exactly, and then he went, like, you know, evidently he had some sort of device
that could take all her memories out.
And he went, which one should I use?
Yeah, the creepy ones.
Yeah.
And the spiders.
Spider one, yeah.
Exploding out of the nest.
And then eating the mother, yeah.
Which is a metaphor for bloody replicants and destroying their masters.
It's a metaphor, Mason.
You probably learnt that in your year nine bloody Blade Runner class
that you did.
Mason, can I ask you a question?
Yes.
All right.
You're in a desert.
Uh-oh.
Right.
You're walking along.
You see a tortoise.
Yes.
Upside down.
He's struggling.
Do you fuck it?
Sorry, Silk.
Keep going.
Do you fuck it?
Oh!
I was just thinking that it's the guy administering the test right at the start.
Very rude and unprofessional, if you ask me.
He's like, tortoise, it's like a turtle.
It's the same thing.
But it's...
Keep going.
But it's like, he's done that a thousand times.
I guess so, yeah.
It's just a standard kind of...
He's lost the love about the tortoise story.
He totally has, yeah.
I do love that way, that's the way that they determine replicants.
Like the machine,
it also, it breathes because it takes in what?
Every time someone fails the test,
they shoot the quiz master.
And it's like, was he a replicant?
Well, the gunshot does not lie.
And then out the back,
they've just got all these quiz masters with big bullet holes.
That'd be incredible.
All the next interrogators,
they really softball the next round of interrogations.
So you see a tortoise and then you flip it over,
but then you flip it back, it's fine.
Don't even worry about it.
What's a tortoise? Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter, you're doing great, mate. You're doing such a it back. It's fine. Don't even worry about it. What's a tortoise?
Doesn't matter.
You're doing great, mate.
You're doing great.
You're doing a good job.
It's a type of cake.
Yeah.
But I was listening to that question.
Yeah.
And turtles are my second favourite animals behind cats.
Sure.
So I was just there getting caught up in it.
It's like, flip it back.
Help him out.
Yeah.
But first scratch his little tummy.
Like, that is fun.
Can they feel that?
Oh, that's a good question i met a giant tortoise in um was it a man dressed in a donatello no no he was in the water i'll show
the video after this but like the donatello costume was in the water so like if you hold
your hands out in a circle out the front of you yeah like that's how big his shell was yeah and i
met him i got to pat him i was i was crying it was so emotional to meet a tortoise of this magnitude or any tortoise
i don't want to discriminate between smaller tortoises or not they're all great they're all
great but to meet a big one in the water was um i'm not a replicant that's all i have a similar
tortoise story but it's not as nice it's a turtle story actually when i lived up north i lived in a
very remote australian community for a year and uh with a local uh he got in that fishing boat and wanted to go to turtle spearing
so we were out in the water i'm like i don't like this like i'll fish but i don't want to kill a
turtle and so i literally saw one about the size you're talking about i'd never seen something
move so fast like under the boat and he leapt out with a spear try to he didn't get it he missed it i don't think he was very good at it i think it's just something that
he wanted to do because the locals can apparently they're they're allowed to kill them but only on a
regular non-motor boat and you have to be from that area or something anyway the turtle lived
did he also did he also have a butterfly collection and a killing jar because i think you were dealing
with a replica in my head writing that scene,
so the guy on the boat is trying to spear the turtle
and then you have a crisis of conscience
and you just shoot him in the back of the head with the flare gun.
Right.
And he falls and then it's you just standing there panting.
Yeah.
I did feel very weird about it.
I'm like, I'm not, I don't want to eat it either.
Like, I'm not into it.
Yeah. Wow. Anyway. You'd never become one of Shredder's henchmen, would you? I'm not, I'm not, I don't even, I don't want to eat it either. Like I'm not into it.
Yeah.
Wow.
Anyway.
You'd never become one of Shredder's henchmen, would you?
Tonight we dine on turtle soup.
Yeah, he's into it.
Yeah.
I can ask you a question.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
With Krang, would you rather be the brain in the belly or the body that gets to walk around?
The body's not sentient as far as I know or limited sentientality.
Mason, what do you think?
Yeah, it's no replicant.
It's just a big old bod.
Yeah, it's a big bod.
Yeah.
And it's kind of a paunchy bod as well.
Yeah.
All right.
It's got guns in it though.
Deeper question.
In your relationship as podcasters,
who's the krang and who's the bod?
Somebody's already done fan out of that.
I'm the brain.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Because I'm kind of like the loose structure
but you keep the ship afloat
so you're saying
you're carrying the load
would that mean
no I wouldn't know
now I feel
you really twisted it on me steel
I mean I do edit it
so yes
yeah
and I do love
oh it was Fergal
it was our friend Fergal
oh what a legend
oh he's great
I do love that
I come up with this.
I think, oh, this is a good premise.
It's like, no, we've had that one in fair enough.
Shut up, Steel.
There's already a T-shirt.
Don't even worry about it.
Damn it.
We should probably wrap up this Blade Runner discussion,
but let's do it like this.
Mason, is it good and is he a replicant?
You know what?
It is good and he isn't a replicant.
Okay.
Steel, is it good and is he a replicant i think
it's great and good wow two compliments i'm gonna go no i want him not to be a replicant okay
why though because i like him and i feel like he might be upset if he finds out he's the very thing
he's been trying to kill all this time that's a good point mason his answer was better than yours
do you want to go again uh you know what now i hope that in the new one it turns out he's the very thing he's been trying to kill all this time. That's a good point. Mason, his answer was better than yours. Do you want to go again?
You know what?
Now I hope that in the new one it turns out he is a replicant
and they found his narration switch and they switched it off.
But I did like that if it was, that's why he banged the robot
because he just couldn't resist robot and robot action.
Yeah, sure.
I can get that.
Be with your own.
But that was really weird that he
knew and he was but i guess that daryl hannah's one that was a whole job yeah just to have but
he seemed very passionate about it he was getting caught up in the moment he certainly was yeah and
he was drunk it was very bizarre so they can get drunk also anyway i think it's great i think if
you came to it fresh now it might be a bit of a tough watch but i think it's great i think if you came to it fresh now it might be a bit of a
tough watch but i think it's an important film to kind of see in terms of this is the it's pioneered
so much stuff and he is a yeah i think it's definitely if you've never seen it it's definitely
worth watching but pick your version yeah do not watch the don't be like listen the theatrical
version's the purest version so i should watch that because it's just the worst version really
scott says the final cut's the best one to watch but i think they're all interesting in their own ways pretty good all seven are great
okay quickly we're just gonna we're just gonna rank the blade runner films in the blade runner
universe uh which is better blade runner or soldier go steal your first blade runner because
i have no idea what soldier is soldier is a it's a kurt russell action movie from 1997, I want to say.
It's set in the Blade Runner universe.
Really?
Yes.
He sprung that on you.
He said he was going to spring it on you somehow.
And it's not good.
No.
Is it?
It's not good.
Yeah.
Do I get a tick for that answer?
You absolutely get a tick, yeah.
I haven't seen it in a long time, but there are connections.
They are the same universe.
So there are going to be three Blade Runner films plus the video game, I guess.
Which, by the way, for Caravan of Garbage will be up Tuesday.
I mentioned that, didn't I?
Before we wrap this up, do you mind if I quickly talk about the Blade Runner curse?
Let's talk about the Blade Runner curse.
I so thought that was going to be an advertisement for something.
Yeah, for the Blade Runner curse.
And the only way to avert it is buying a loot crate
antidote is in this month's loot crate no he's such a good pitcher i wanted to sign up for the
blade runner curse you might not steal because uh the blade runner curse revolves around not the
death of a human being say like the superman curse or other films that are similar in nature
the curse relates to the companies whose logos were displayed prominently in some scenes.
Coca-Cola.
It's gone.
Yeah, well, exactly.
There are exceptions.
That's exactly right.
Remember when we used to drink Coca-Cola?
Like an hour ago when I had a Coca-Cola?
That's how you break the curse, by drinking Coke.
Yeah, that's right.
Yum, yum, yum.
While they were market leaders at the time, many of them experienced disastrous setbacks
over the next decade and hardly exist today.
Atari, this is off the Blade Runner wiki,
which dominated the home video game market
when the film came out,
never recovered from next year's downturn in the industry
and in the 90s ceased to exist anymore than a brand.
The Bell system monopoly was broken up that same year.
That's the phone company, right?
I guess so.
And Pan American World Airways went bankrupt in 1991
after a decade of mounting losses.
Cuisinart similarly went bankrupt in 1989.
Don't know who that is.
Oh, Cuisinart.
Cuisinart, yeah.
They make like food processors.
All right.
Mason just got up to
let the dog out
everybody.
I didn't turn off his
mic for ruining my
segment by mentioning
Coca-Cola.
But Coca-Cola could
have joined the list
in the wake of the
failed introduction of
New Coke three years
later but has then
experienced a 30-fold
increase in share
price.
So make of that what
you will.
Coke broke the Blade Runner curse.
The Atari logo is so cool.
Isn't it good?
Are you going to get the Atari Mini?
No.
Because all the games are shit?
What's it going to have?
Like Breakout and stuff like that?
I don't know.
Whatever crap is on Atari.
Ninja Golf's probably on there.
Yeah.
What about...
The Empire Strikes Back,
but it's just the sequence with the land speeders or or whatever snow speeders no speeders sorry i mean they're still at land aren't
they so we're going it's weird they have all gone mini now right i was at my friend's house in la
and he's got like a maxi nintendo control panel that's a coffee table right is that functional
is it functional yeah wow that's hollywood for you
but he never used it which really frustrated me the the stuff that we play um video games on i
bought a tiny little box i can show you down there it's got every game ever on it and it uses those
retro kind of wireless controllers which i'm forever struggling with retro is in in a big way
still you excited yeah well i can't wait to listen to this on vinyl.
Absolutely, yeah.
I think that'll do it.
Yep.
You know what it's time for, Mason?
Oh, our famous segment.
What are we reading?
What are we going to read?
I'm doing the thing.
What are we reading today?
Still, you've heard the show, presumably.
A lot of people turn off after this point.
I would.
But basically, we talk about things that we've read or watched
or going to read or going to watch.
Who wants to kick it off?
I like that your explanation of the segment
is just repeating the title of the segment.
Yeah.
Doesn't help.
Guys, what's this what we're going to read segment about?
It's what you're going to read.
Or what you have read.
It's two things.
I just finished this week the audiobook of Thrawn.
Is that good?
It is spectacular.
Okay.
It is really like I'm a little bit,
I get a little bit sickly when there's too many like connections
and stuff yeah but this had some nice subtle connections double sickly yes um the well it
does drive me to drink so there you go the yeah there's a nice reveal of like a character that
appears in a different star wars media that you follow her the whole way along
and then you go,
oh, it's her from this thing.
So is Thrawn back in continuity?
Is that what's happening here?
Yeah.
And Timothy Zahn,
who introduced the character in the early 90s
with the Thrawn trilogy,
heir to the Empire and stuff.
So they got him back,
but this time they've introduced him
prior to A new hope which he
did exist obviously he was in the empire then and originally wasn't he because they sent him out to
the outer rim or whatever yeah yeah yeah and it's sort of like he started stories the same name and
but he doesn't have the um the one thing that got rid of him was the lizards the samolari i think
there was something like that the force sucking yeah that sort of made it so a Jedi wasn't a Jedi.
But there's this character in it,
he's just an everyman that helps Thrawn along the way
and I just adored him.
Okay.
And Thrawn, it's really weird because you don't really get any rebellion side.
So he's kind of a hero through the whole.
Right.
Yeah, right. Hero of the Empire. rebellion side so he's kind of a hero through the whole right yeah yeah and he's so you know smart
and like and good at his job and quite um like he's got he's really noble and he's got like this
like like real honor code and stuff so he he's like you really root for him and then towards
the end it's like oh yeah you're kind of doing some bad stuff but
then he's busting people in the empire that are doing like he hates corruption yes he's a stickler
for rules and what's right yeah in terms of his own moral code in the empire yeah and there's some
interesting interactions with the emperor and and darth vader and stuff towards the end but
and the audiobook like with the sound effects and the different voices.
Who voices it?
I couldn't tell you that.
It's not the guy who voices him in Rebels, though.
No.
That's Mads Mikkelsen's brother.
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Mikkelsen.
He does a great job, though.
Yeah.
No, I've heard that because I was listening to, I think,
Jedi Council, yeah, where they said the same thing, yeah.
Yeah, so I would highly recommend that one.
Okay, excellent.
Very good. Because I found in Star in star wars rebels i didn't really i wasn't super interested in what they
were doing with him i felt though because they're kind of a lot of wasted stuff where the rebels
would come up and they'd steal a fleet of whatever and he'd be like don't worry i'm just
biding my time and he's just looking at art trying to decipher what's in someone's brain i'm like
just do literally anything it's fine i
imagine because he's such an art connoisseur he'd just have like a really fire instagram feed
he totally would just like all the galleries he's been to and stuff yeah real pretentious yeah
mason did you uh have you been into any fire instagram galleries what have you been doing
this week any fire instagram gallery do you watch star trek discovery no i'm still i'm still okay what have you doing what have you doing have
i been well i went to i went to see that's the thing i went to netflix and i'm like i should get
into star trek but i feel it's going to be kind of an investment of time i'm going to need like a
few solid days to really get into it so instead i watch the good place which is a little little
sitcom on uh on netflix okay it's kr? It's Kristen Bell and Ted Danson.
Yeah.
Some of it's been written by Megan Amran, who's on the Twitters.
Okay.
Very funny.
I know her, yeah, yeah.
And so the premise is basically Kristen Bell's character has ended up in The Good Place,
which is heaven-ish.
But it's been a horrible clerical misunderstanding and she should not be in there.
And so she's trying to sort of evade... Authorities authorities yeah gotcha place seems pretty fun i'm enjoying it so far
i had no idea it had that sort of i thought they just met together in a cafe yeah like a normal
sitcom oh no it's uh it's that's what i thought as well yeah because it sounds like the good wife
or the good fighter although the good doctor. The good doctor, yeah.
It seems like it's going to be totally normal, but it is not.
So what's Danson doing up there?
He's the administrator.
Very good.
He's a very good-natured bow-tie administrator. Has he got his bald spot?
No, he's got the white hair, though.
Okay, good, excellent.
Yeah, he does look good, doesn't he?
I've also started reading Tim Rogers' autobiography.
I don't know if anybody's interested in that.
Yeah, yeah, sure.
Is it good?
Frontman of UMI.
I do like Tim Rogers.
He's good.
Sounds really interesting.
Okay.
Good wordsmith.
He might be a friend of your mate,
the guy from Bloody, what's it called?
Something for Kate.
Good references there.
Thank you.
Your mate.
They definitely would be mates.
What's his name again?
Paul Dempsey.
Yeah, Paul Dempsey.
Seems like a great bloke, Paul Dempsey.
Agreed?
He's not bad.
He does the Steel Wars theme song.
Yes, yes, he does.
Yeah.
Didn't win an award? No. Outrageous. I does the Steel Wars theme song. Yes, he does. Yeah. Didn't win an award?
No.
Outrageous.
I know.
Yeah.
I know.
How could you not give it to him?
I don't know.
As long as I won the, I just wanted my award.
Yeah, no, that makes sense.
Dempsey's got enough awards.
Screw him.
He's still fine.
I did watch Star Trek Discovery.
What did you think?
I enjoyed it quite a lot.
It's very kind of, it's very action heavy.
Okay, great.
I will enjoy it.
It's probably closer to the Abrams stuff than the original.
But it does set up a universe where it's going to be very interesting going forward.
The characters are really compelling.
And what Star Trek timeline is this set in?
Regular universe, but it looks like it's set in the Calvin universe.
And it's set 10 years before the original series.
But there's like holograms and whatever.
I kind of feel like they should have,
I want to go forward
because we've kind of been in this time period a lot,
like Enterprise was in the past as well.
Not that I watched a lot of those.
And there's a lot of criticisms
because it doesn't feel like real Star Trek
in terms of there's not just diplomacy.
It's just like Klingons and war and whatever.
Like that's the first two episodes,
but it plays like a movie and it's really compelling. And I i think it's i really enjoyed it okay i'm not a classic trek
guy so i'm probably not the if you are you might hate it but that's the perspective i came at i was
disappointed to hear they didn't go with my suggestion to do the first two episodes set
in the holodeck oh yeah and they're And they're dressed like Ye Olde. Yes. Having an adventure.
Yeah, absolutely.
Just totally throw people off the board.
That would be incredible.
Yeah.
Just the holodeck adventures.
That'd be very good.
The holodeck adventures.
Mason, do you have that theme song ready?
Oh, yeah, because we've got another segment coming up.
You know it.
The classic one was letters, oh, letters.
Green guides, letters.
No ads.
We don't interrupt the letters theme.
Not for anything.
Now, because we all spoke through that, Mason,
could you play that again, please?
Absolutely.
Letters is like the name of the segment, Steel.
You happy?
Okay.
It's self-explanatory but inaccurate
because we've never received an actual letter.
It's all emails.
People have asked if they could send us stuff
and I guess no.
We should set up a PO box or something.
Should you re-sing it with emails?
We could actually, and tweets.
Yeah.
All right.
Mason, re-sing it.
Blade Runner.
That's a reference for something that's coming up.
Here's a letter. If you's coming up yeah uh here's here's a letter if you
want to contact the show through email hashed uh sorry weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com that's the one
uh this is from brandon robinson title my fiance left me oh you read that right my friends she
left me on the day we got a place i haven't been able to listen to music but listening to you guys
has helped keep me distracted uh i have one question. If you could both pick three superheroes to battle each other,
who would that be?
Oh, man.
Pretty good.
First of all, I'm going to address the-
Good setup, good delivery.
Thank you, Brandon.
I'm going to address the first part first.
That's terrible.
I'm really sorry to hear that.
I've got some advice for people who, the breakup thing.
I think you've just got to give yourself a couple of weeks to just kind of be real sad about it, and then you've got some advice for people who, the breakup thing. I think you just gotta, you gotta give yourself a couple of weeks
to kind of just kind of be real sad about it.
And then you gotta just get back out there
and just do a bunch of different stuff.
Keep yourself occupied.
Keep yourself moving.
You know what I mean?
Pick up some hobbies.
Go out with your mates.
Do a bunch of stuff like that
and eventually you'll just feel better over time.
I'd say if you're near a beach,
go walk on it.
Yep.
If you look down
and there's only one set of footprints,
it's because she left you.
Jesus Christ. But the weekly planet was carrying you yeah that's right where jesus also there's a turtle uh just leave it because you're heartbroken it's not your responsibility flip it or kill it
was it was it last week on the show that someone wrote in that they were in the floods yes yeah and um so you guys are a lot more like passive happy podcasters i i can
turn on a dime against a listener if their compliment is not to my taste oh really oh wow
yeah so you would turn on flood victims still i would and i'm about to okay so like i've had
people like we did on our patreon this month i was trying to do an episode a day yeah right just
like a piece of content a day and someone wrote in there,
I'm loving it, but to keep up, I'm listening on 1.5 speed.
I'm like, nah, mate, OG speed.
Don't speed me up.
Don't give me this chipmunk action.
But I was listening to him saying how good it was that, you know,
like I didn't have power and stuff, but I caught up on, you know,
I had four episodes of you to listen to or three episodes.
And in my head, angry me is like going,
you're not keeping up every week.
Like what sort of fan just lets a month go
without this comic book movie news shooting up your butthole or whatever.
What do you do when there's not a flood?
You just let them bank up for months?
How dare you?
Exactly.
Flood of content.
Am I right? Yeah, that's right. Incredible right incredible i'm okay with it to be honest i mean people can come in and out
whenever they want to your show i mean not for us i would hate that you have to stay forever
because i yeah i i it's so much to listen to you know what i mean i've got so many podcasts
to catch up on i'm constantly behind like netflix or other things uh so much so people also asked
on twitter um if we could do some kind of charity campaign for what's happening in mexico to catch up on. I'm constantly behind, like Netflix or other things. Some people also asked on Twitter
if we could do some kind of charity campaign
for what's happening in Mexico.
No, but Diego Luna...
He's all right.
No way.
Diego Luna from Star Wars, Rogue One.
Flatliners also.
Yes, and 0% Rotten Tomatoes.
He set up a campaign
where the money apparently
is not going to go to the government.
It goes straight to where it's needed.
Diego Luna's bank account. Correct. After Flatliners. So I'm going to link to the government, go straight to where it's needed. Diego Luna's bank account.
Correct.
After Flatliners.
So I'm going to link that below.
If you want something like to,
if you want to contribute,
that's probably,
that'd be a really good avenue to do it in.
Guys, are we going to answer Brandon's question?
Oh yeah, sorry.
Yeah.
Can I just add that I got an Uber to the airport in LA
and this guy was very personable,
amazing personality.
He was in Ubers to chat to people
he was a screenwriter and he's i said what are you working on he goes i'm writing a remake of
flatliners and i go oh you know they're bringing one out in two months and he's like oh how could
he not know that google are you kidding me and then we're in the uber it was silent for about
five minutes and i just go you have to admit, it's pretty funny.
Did he think it was funny?
He was sort of just like, damn, who's in it?
And I go, Ellen Page.
Ah, she's good.
I'd love to have her in my version.
Yeah, well.
Of all the version. Yeah, well. But of all the weird, like for one person to think up,
I'm going to make a remake of Flatliners.
Yeah, strange.
But to have two concurrent remake thoughts.
You know what?
I'm just going to remake somebody else's property.
I'm going to rewrite somebody else's property.
That's not even how it works.
Yeah, you need, I can understand something in the spirit of Flatliners.
I get that, but that's very strange.
Oh, no, but what you...
To get around the legalities, it's like,
oh, this is Flatliners on steroids.
Oh, that's the title.
Even Flatterliners.
They're deader than they've ever been before.
Mason, your question, though.
What was it again?
It was, if you could have three superheroes battle each other,
who would they be?
Ooh.
Look, I don't know about any specific answers, but I do like...
They've got to be evenly matched, I think.
I like evenly matched, but I like evenly matched with different skill sets.
Like in the Avengers when it's Thor versus Captain America versus Iron Man.
So I'm guessing you're not going to bring Hawkeye into the equation.
No, he'd be murdered immediately.
Whatever that situation was.
Yeah, no, I'd agree. Yeah, that was was yeah no i i that's i'd agree
yeah that was the first thing that came to mind was that captain america thor iron man thing what
about you still i'm trying to think of you can put in a star wars character if you want jesus
come on mate somebody can fight a banther it's fine wicket wicket versus warwick davis in a
gonk droid versus that space monkey that he played in Rogue One.
Oh, that would be pretty good.
Yeah, I don't think he played the space monkey.
What about Wicket versus Watto
versus Salacious Crumb in a three-way fight to the death?
Love it.
Who's got that, do you think?
Wicket, he's a killer.
Watto's like a, he'll trade and whatever
and he'll put someone in a cry in
a corner yeah yeah yeah he just but he might just float above them while they sort out their
differences and he might come in wicked's got a spear but salacious crumbs got those fingers like
no one's eyes are safe that's true yeah that's a really good point luckily ewoks can blink and
they can stop him coming in oh you bastard Ewoks can't blink
salacious crumb might mock you to death
yeah I don't like that
just a guy laughing at you the entire time
he died didn't he
he exploded
oh
just a classified
someone has some insider information
someone has some episode 8
this is exclusive
oh no I was mourning
I was mourning our loss
the way that I
yeah I read that
how Mason read it,
that you were like, I'm not saying anything.
Someone's been cast as Salacious Crumb in episode nine.
That's why he's been in LA.
Because you're glad Jabba the Hutt blows up,
which thinking about where all that flesh went.
Oh, so much guts.
But then when you think,
like when there was that robot chicken thing with Max Rebo, and he survives in the robot chicken sketch right yeah he's like yeah we've got a gig
like yeah and i i like to take that as canon because he's so cute yeah i did a luke skywalker
kill count video and i calculated how many people were on that barge when it when it exploded i can't
remember what it was but it's uh it's on my youtube channel if you want to check it out
yeah i don't i yeah i'm not sure if it's correct are you there's only so much information you have you
know what i mean you know what i mean and there's conflicting information how much does a sail barge
carry and then i had to subtract how many people luke murdered before the barge exploded it's very
complicated anyway i've got a tweet here hashtag weekly planet pod if you want to reach the show
this is from mike fly plus can you guys discuss the outrageous amount of tweets Marvel is shoving down our throats
about Inhumans
did you see
Inhumans premiered
on ABC Network
oh really
it had
the ratings were horrible
but it outperformed
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
season 4 numbers
in general
and also Agent Carter
season 1
so it's not all bad news
aside from the fact
that it will get cancelled
because it's terrible
yeah I mean
the only bad news
is nobody will come back
for episode 2
because episode 1
was so bad yes yeah still did anyone see star wars out of this um i didn't but
i remember at comic-con hearing that people were laughing at the screening because it was so bad
we yeah we we did an episode on it we paid actual human money yeah it was crazy and it was the worst thing ever probably
potentially it's very bad well it balances out how good uh the civil war was at imax i think so yeah
you got that for free that means i'm zero i'm at zero that's fine i guess but no it's uh yeah i i
was watching the i was on twitter and marvel just like look at lockjoy is the most adorable dog in the
blah blah blah and i nearly was just i wanted to go back to everyone and go stop you nobody cares
but it's just but the social media is just some guy or girl just kind of it's their job you don't
want to like harass a person online do you know what i mean they're just doing their job but you
were approaching the threshold is what you're saying yeah i was on the verge of like shut up
every time every time i um that like
the defenders interact on twitter like jessica jones speaks to matt murdoch i i want to just
write and sometimes i do it just banter underneath because they're always they're always bantering
with each other now you know you can unfollow those no i know i like i like leaving it on i
like saying it okay right one more tweet then we'll wrap it up. Nice. Simon Fox says, Speaking of Alex Mack on your last show,
what 90s kid show would you like to see get a gritty reboot?
The Adventures of Beans Baxter.
Ocean Girl.
Ship to Shore.
Can we pretend that He-Man came out in the 90s?
Absolutely not.
100% no.
Damn it.
No, sure.
Why not?
Well, most of us watched it in the 90s,
because that's when it came here.
Yeah, I would love, I just want a good return of He-Man.
I think McG was doing it.
We've talked about this before.
Yeah, terrific.
I don't know.
I don't remember where it's at, but it is happening.
Look, we could say literally anything here.
It's all coming back.
There's no way.
There are no more original thoughts.
And just if they make the He-Man movie or a TV show,
it's not that he once had his powers and now he's lost them.
Yeah.
Like none of that. You want man yeah i just i stand in front lift your sword up be dressed like a fancy boy hold it up
then be dressed like thor point the sword at your cat it's a giant cat yeah castle glows in the
background you've got the power you've got a little floaty ghost friend, maybe.
It depends.
But either way, just hold it up and be on Eternia.
That sounds beautiful.
That's all I want.
I'd watch that 90s reboot.
Dolph Lundgren, though?
No.
It's got to be Chris Hemsworth, right?
I mean, they probably wouldn't because it's too similar.
But that's the only person I could think of.
Stack the remaining Hemsworths together.
Chad and the other one.
Yeah. Chad and Liam. All right, that'll do it, I think. Still, it's the only person i stack the remaining hemsworths yeah together chad and the other one yeah chad and liam all right that'll do it i think still it's the end of the show where can people find you specifically what's your address it is um it's apartment 301 harper uh no it's uh
i do a podcast called steel wars where each week we interview a Star Wars fan
of note
and talk to them
about their experiences
and we do like
a call in show
once a week
which is sort of like
talk back radio
for Star Wars fans
all the hot news
all the hot calls
and sometimes
Star Wars actors
like Stephen Stanton
call in to talk to Mason
yeah that's right
he's a super cool dude
we um
yeah so Admiral Raddus
himself called in the the actual guy,
and me and Mason were left giggling like schoolgirls.
I was listening to that.
I thought it was just a guy who did really good Raddus.
You know what I mean?
But it was the actual guy.
Yeah.
And he does Obi-Wan as well on Rebels.
Yeah, he does Obi-Wan.
He does the Alan Rickman robot.
He does Tarkin in Rebels. Yeah, he does a great Tarkin. does the Alan Rickman robot. He does Tarkin in Rebels.
Yeah, he does Tarkin.
He does a great Tarkin.
I think he does a better Tarkin than the guy who played Tarkin.
I think his voice is better.
Yeah, I'd say, but then he's got the face.
Yeah.
So he's cheating.
Face is cheat, mate.
Agreed.
You know all about that.
It's an actor's crutch.
Everybody knows that.
But yeah, we've done, both of you guys have been on Steel Wars
and we've had like Leonard Moulton and one I always direct people to
is the one with Nathan Hamill.
Yes.
Who's the son of Mark Hamill.
Yeah.
And it's just a really interesting podcast about growing up,
being a huge Star Wars fan and then when you go to your friend's house,
your dad's on your friend's toothbrush.
Yeah, yeah.
And how you deal with that reality.
Absolutely, yeah.
He won't get off it. He just loves toothbrushes. Get out. Yeah, yeah. And how you deal with that reality. Absolutely, yeah. He won't get off it.
He just loves toothbrushes.
Get out of here, son.
I'm not going to spoil who you've got coming up,
but you've got a massive guest lined up.
Yes, we're not.
That's all I'm going to say, yeah.
We're not going to spoil it.
No, I would never.
We would never do that.
And also, I'm getting into the YouTube game.
Yes.
A bit more seriously and probably, not when this comes out,
but in the next week I've got a new show called The Steel Wars Update.
And it's sort of like a bit of a comical look at the week's Star Wars news.
And that's youtube.com forward slash Steel Wars, S-T-E-L-E-L-E.
So you can find that podcast
twitter handle
youtube
done
I'll link it all below
people can check it out
thanks buddy
I actually went to look down at the carpet
see the links
very cool
Mason
yeah
wrap this bloody thing up mate
steer this ship home
okay
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His newsletter is so good.
Yeah, right?
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It's amazing how much stuff we do, isn't it?
Not us, but in general.
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It's in its own little window.
So that's all coming up very soon.
But she did have a horrific accident,
which I will save for another day.
I might maybe cut that out.
Yeah.
No, I'd leave on a weird cliffhanger.
So we get 1,000 tweets next week.
She's fine.
Go to her Twitter and you'll find out what happened there.
It's not really my story to tell, even though I was there
and it was the worst.
Yeah.
Okay.
Thanks for coming on, Steel.
We appreciate it.
My pleasure.
And I just want to say thank you guys for having us on the network
and stuff and being like you've got quite a following
and you're always very generous with all the other podcasts
to help them out and stuff.
And I know just when I've traveled to London
and around California and that,
like I've always got people coming up wearing the goat head t-shirt
and saying that they listened to the podcast
and they heard about it through the show and stuff.
Oh, sweet.
That's really cool.
And much like Will and the Tofop guys,
just that it's a very supportive thing rather than like,
we're at the top, we're keeping you down.
Well, there's so much good stuff.
The secret is everyone's better than us.
Well, that is true, exactly.
We've decided to promote that.
You guys would make horrible supervillains.
Yeah, that's probably true, yeah.
But I think the idea is,
Claire's really the driving force behind it,
but all the podcasts on the network
are podcasts that we like and listen to
so that's where it comes from
we don't put on one just to be like
ah well we need a sport one
so we're actually looking for a sport one
if anybody knows anything about sport
please contact us
it's stuff that we all enjoy
so it's easy to recommend
because like your show, for example,
because it's a great show.
Oh, thanks, James.
Thumbs up.
Mason, you get one too.
Nice.
We're all doing a thumbs up like it's a weird Mexican standoff,
but with positivity.
All right.
Thanks for listening, guys.
Thanks for listening, guys.
Grab that gym, you guys.
We'll see you next week.
Bye.
Bye.
Ready to go, Steel?
You can have a thing at the start where it's like,
now record it in slather sound.
You know it.
I hate the mouth sounds when you listen to something.
People do.
I'm not a fan.
Like, most people hate any kind of eating.
Yeah.
But there's a very small subset.
Who love it.
Who love it.
Yeah.
I isolate the tracks. This is not going in. But just take that shit out. Who love it. Who love it. Yeah. I isolate the tracks.
This is not going in,
but just take that shit out.
Oh, it's going in.
It depends how tired you are later in the day.
I love that you'd think that I would think
that if you isolate the tracks to take out mouth,
like mouth noises,
that I would assume you'd leave this conversation in.
It's like-
Well, I might.
If you're anal enough to take out,
you're not leaving the conversation
about how you take it out.
Maybe I'll put this
in at the end
as an extra.
Secret section.
Steel's secret section.
Steel's thing
that he stole
90s CDs.
Yeah.
You just have
the secret track.
That's where I got from.
It was like so rad.
Love it.
All right, let's do it.
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