The Weekly Planet - 206 Blade Runner 2049 & Fast & Furious Spin Off

Episode Date: October 9, 2017

This week we’re all about Blade Runner 2049! Is Deckard a replicant or a replican?Plus the trailer for Pacific Rim uprising, Game of Thrones season 8, The Punisher’s release delay, Fast and Furiou...s news, Gambit things, the Dark Universe is probably over the Doomsday Clock and more things some of them sad. Thanks for listening.Blade Runner 2049 Easter Eggs: https://t.co/aq0hGVRxNnDon’t You Know Who I Am: https://goo.gl/NN6mMhJust Make The Thing: https://goo.gl/XvKE3A2:41 Screen Junkies Controversy6:21 Planet Broadcasting Live Shows11:25 Pacific Rim Uprising trailer16:34 Game Of Thrones season 819:11 The Punisher release delayed23:25 Fast And/Or Furious news28:02 Gambit movie news32:51 Bride Of Frankenstein is cancelled definitely36:18 Justice League Danny Elfman callbacks38:15 The Doomsday Clock45:25 Blade Runner 2049 Spoiler Free Review1:03:29 Blade Runner 2049 Spoiler Review1:20:38 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:29:41 Letters It’s Time For LettersBuy Blade Runner 2049 on Amazon: https://amzn.to/2nu7z83The Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind our T-Shirts here: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:28 The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet, official podcast of comicbookmovie.com where we talk movies, comics, TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me is always my co-host, Mack Weldon Mason. That's me! He was giving me like the air yeah don't don't mess this up maintain the continuity from the ad spot if you've skipped the ad spot now you have to
Starting point is 00:01:12 go back that's right or none of this will make sense this doesn't make a lot of sense to me uh people ask me to talk about us i'm going to touch on it briefly okay uh there was some there has been some allegations leveled against um some okay a lot of allegations i didn't want to quantify it you know i didn't have a specific number in my head uh against any signal of screen junkies and uh when that when this happened i woke up to it the other morning it was just what do you think of this and i'd spent like an hour going through all the tweets and messages and messaging people that i knew to be like is this a real thing and whatever what what's what not so much this is a real thing.
Starting point is 00:01:45 It seemed like a real thing, but, you know, just to kind of get some information. And so basically there's been a whole lot of allegations and private messages leaked where he's kind of enticing fans to come out and meet and stay with him and whatever, which, I mean, fine, if you want to cheat on your wife. Stop saying that. Well, I'm just saying that's your call.
Starting point is 00:02:02 I wouldn't do it. But because like, obviously he's got a kid, he's got a young kid, he's got a wife. I mean, that's horrible. It's very poor form. Yeah. It's very poor form, but it's not illegal, I guess. No, but there's another side to it.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Some of the people that he's worked with, there's been allegations about coercing women into sexual favours and threatening to fire this person's boyfriend. And like interns. And all that kind of thing, yeah. So, look, I've already kept it on Twitter. This is all horrible, obviously. We, I mean, I don't know about you, Mason,
Starting point is 00:02:36 but I am strongly against this. I'm also strongly against this. You were trying to lure me into a trap there, but I'm also against it. And, look, I've never met the man or yeah seen any of his work but people have emailed and been like hey you want you should go on movie fights or whatever yeah when they clean house maybe that's that's what's gonna happen here yeah and that's the thing like i i'm literally met him like a month ago and people asked did you
Starting point is 00:02:58 you know did you get any sense of any of that not at all it was very nice to me everybody seemed to like him from what i could tell i mean i wasn't there for very long i wasn't looking for it and you're a man and i'm a man that's right so and you're very ugly so sure yeah and and the thing to remember is as well about this there are people at screen junkies who have come out against this everybody there it seems like producers other other other talent who work there. And it's all up in the end. The people that I've spoken to privately, one person in particular doesn't know
Starting point is 00:03:29 if they're going to stay on. There's a problem with the HR department there as well because they apparently knew of this months prior. And they didn't send people. Yeah, I saw some tweets that were like, oh, you've gotten back to me now. Like, I complained months ago, but you didn't do anything until until the news yeah kind of thing
Starting point is 00:03:45 that's it but the thing about screen junkies is it is it's more than just one person like it's there's a lot of people worked in and you know i wouldn't begrudge anybody for staying on there just because there's one person there who's obviously done some terrible things that doesn't that doesn't reflect on everybody obviously so yeah so, it's all horrible. I don't care for it, quite frankly. Yep. Like, he's got a family and young kids. I just, I don't know. No good.
Starting point is 00:04:10 No good. But, hey, hopefully it all gets sorted out. We've addressed it. Yeah, I've addressed it. Now, let's move on to some other news, which is probably a celebrity dying. Just to lighten the mood up a little. Who did die this week? I don't think anybody. Tom Petty.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Oh, yeah, Tom Petty died. That's a shame. Was he in any movies? Probably, but none that I've seen. Okay, cool. There's only two travelling Wilburys left. Is that right? Dylan and Jeff Lynne.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I didn't know their names. What happened to the other? George Harrison died. Oh, yeah, of course, yeah. And Roy Orbison died. What did they all die of? George Harrison cancer. Gunfight.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Together? Yeah. So who were they versing? Or were they versing each other? All the Wilburys. Gunfight. And then only Dylan, Tom Petty and Jeff Lynn were left standing and they're like, well, see you in a couple of years, I guess.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Pistols at dawn? Yeah, gotcha. Yeah. Tom Petty's good. Great. Yeah, he is. We've got some Planet Broadcasting live shows coming up. We do, that's true.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Here's some good news, Mason. They're going to be in Sydney, Australia. The winner is Sydney. Very good. Very dated reference, Mason. That's the best. Very good. Very dated reference. That's the best. That's the most current reference I have. The 1994 announcement.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Juan Antonio Samaranch of the Australian Olympic Committee announcing that Australia had the 2000 Olympics. In 1994. Yes, that's right. A 23-year-old reference. That's as fresh as I've got. I'm sorry. That's it.
Starting point is 00:05:24 So basically it's five shows, five Planet Broadcasting shows in a row starting the 1st of November every Wednesday until the 29th of November. So basically the idea is there's like a headlining show and a support show, like you would a comedy gig, Mason. I love it. So the first week is Tofop, which is Will Anderson and Charlie Clawson's show, which is fantastic and they've been on this show. And who's just slotted themselves in after that?
Starting point is 00:05:47 Not us, Mason. That's right. It's Claire's podcast, Just Make the Thing. Wow. That's it. Who organized that? Well, she said, do you guys want to do it? And I was like, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:05:56 No, absolutely not. That's true. Yeah, you're right. You're right. In many ways, she's taken the bullet there. That's right, exactly. But I know she's lining up some pretty good guests, as far as I can tell.
Starting point is 00:06:08 After that's Don't You Know Who I Am and Hey Fam, another two fantastic podcasts. Don't You Know Who I Am, we just went on recently. It's Josh Orr's podcast. I'll link that below. That's true. It was us and the Two in the Think Tank guys. I had a lot of fun on that episode.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Yeah, that was awesome. We revealed some funny little secrets about ourselves. Some little secrets from our past. Yeah, exactly. That was awesome. So those, um, we reveal some funny little secrets from our past. Yeah, exactly. Which is, it's, that was, that was a lot of fun and everyone was very funny and pleasant and pleasant. That's right. It was very gentlemanly and also HeyFam, which, uh, it's, it's like a combination of this
Starting point is 00:06:37 and Filthy Casuals, a little bit of a, that's a newer one to the network. It's not new. It's been going for like 50 episodes. It's Andrew Levins who's been on here before and Angus Truscott who worked for Triple J. And it's really funny. If you haven't checked it out, it's definitely worth checking out. Isn't it, Mason?
Starting point is 00:06:52 Yes, I've listened. The following week on the 15th. And also every episode of their podcast is named after an episode of Entourage. Yes, until now it's named after that Kevin Smith tweet. Okay, great. You know the one? No, I know it.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Yeah, I know it. The 15th though, the 15th of november is our show and two in the think tank great which actually recorded an episode with the other day but that's going up on tuesday i'll talk about more links next week because people forget and whatever so then i'll be ready to go so it's the 15th uh that's us we'll be doing a show we don't know what it's going to be. It's going to be about an hour. It's probably just this show. It's probably just this mostly, yeah. It's not going to be, it's not going to go, we're not recording it as far as I know.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Or if we do, we'll probably throw it up on Patreon. That's the idea. Yeah, I'd say so, yeah. Yeah. And it'll be different than the weekly show. So it'll be in addition. So it won't be something we'll, we won't go on this feed where you're hearing this.
Starting point is 00:07:42 The following week, it's us again on the 22nd and Human Ordinary, which Sam Lloyd's also been on the show. He's fantastic. That's true, yeah. He's doing like a live, I don't know how he explained it. He's doing like a live storytelling kind of thing. Oh, cool. And if you've seen that guy talk in public, he's great.
Starting point is 00:08:00 He's really captivating. I thought it would be great if, you know, because sometimes some people do live shows and they're exactly the same as their podcast. It'd be nice if his live show were just completely different. Like he's got a T-shirt can and he's shooting out stuff into the crowd and it's just like jelly wrestling and, you know. He's got rave pants on.
Starting point is 00:08:21 He's just going for it. So we're going to be doing two different shows on two different topics. And then the 29th is Do Go On, which a lot of people love, and Serious Issues, which is... What do you mean some people love? No, I should say a lot of people... You imply you hate them? No, I listen to every one of those shows.
Starting point is 00:08:34 I think it's a great show. It's very funny. And I'm meaning to do an episode with him, which is coming up, actually. That's going to be with Serious Issues, Andrew Levins' comic book podcast with Siobhan. Cool. Now, tickets are a bit over $40, which is expensive. I understand that.
Starting point is 00:08:50 But the reasoning behind it is everybody who doesn't live in Sydney is getting their flights paid for to fly up if you're doing the podcast, not people who are in the audience. No, no, no. If you look, $40 is expensive for the ticket, but you do get a plane ticket in addition to that. So from anywhere in the world, we'll comp you. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Just to be clear, we will not comp you. Definitely not. And the other thing is because it's two podcasts, then everybody can't. The idea is to get everybody paid as well. Oh, totally, yeah. And we're going to hang around afterwards, have a beer and a chat. Yeah, let's do it. I'm going to get that t-shirt cannon off Sam Loy.
Starting point is 00:09:21 That's right. Just going to go all out. Nice. Also, you can get a 15% discount if you use the promo code PODCASTDOG, all one word presumably, right? Yep. If it's not, I'll link it below.
Starting point is 00:09:32 It'll all be there. So even though the tickets are a little bit more expensive, 15% off is quite reasonable. So look, if you're around for any of those weeks, I'll link it below. If you're going to see a couple, maybe see, if you want to see us, awesome, maybe pick one of the other ones as well
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah nice See somebody else And support them But yeah All that will be linked below Right Mason? Yeah Right
Starting point is 00:09:52 This has been too long Before we've been talking about the news But now we'll talk about the news Pacific Rim Uprising Has it's first trailer Yep The sequel to a movie That did moderately well
Starting point is 00:10:04 That I didn't think Was going to get a sequel. And it was pretty good for the most part. It was fine. Great. Pretty good. The sword. Yep, there was a bendy sword.
Starting point is 00:10:11 There was a wibbly wobbly bendy sword. That's it. All anybody remembers. Ron Perlman got eaten. Yes, but he was okay. Charlie Day ran around frantically and sweated a lot. Didn't get eaten. That's true.
Starting point is 00:10:21 They had another little greasy scientist. They had two little greasy scientists. They had two little greasy scientists. They did have two greasy scientists, yeah. Yeah. So John Boyega's playing the son of Idris Elba. The son of Idris Elba. Pentecost something something. I was going to say Spicy Pentecost, but that's not right.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Let's say his name's Spicy Pentecost. Spicy Pentecost. The apocalypse has been uncancelled despite being cancelled in the previous movie. And now the world is completely fine. Yeah, and it's really bright and shiny. I think what they did is they went, okay, it's too much of a disconnect to have a completely destroyed world
Starting point is 00:10:57 and there's giant robots and there's giant monsters. I think they went, you know what, an anime world, like a Voltron style world has a or even the power rangers world yeah has a normal planet with skyscrapers and and nice horizons and it all looks nice yeah and then you throw in the wrinkle that is robots and giant monsters correct and i think they just went okay well this this is this makes it easier yeah right but i don't know if i buy it's too shiny? Well, they've just fixed the whole world in a couple of years. Well, it depends how long it's been.
Starting point is 00:11:27 It could have been... Well, it's long enough for Spicy Pentecost to have a grown-up kid. Yeah, but Spicy Pentecost would be close to 50. Sorry. Yeah, that's the original guy, isn't he? Yes. Yeah, he'd be close to 50. So it's not unreasonable that he'd have a grown-up kid.
Starting point is 00:11:39 That's true. Yeah. But what do we got here? Look, it's... There's new color-coded... Kaiju? Yep, and there's new color-coded uh kaiju yep and there's new color-coded what are the other things called yeah and also the kaiju go together to make a voltron kaiju they slop in together well that's the other thing about this trailer is it didn't really reveal enough and much about the plot except for the entire plot oh right sure yes
Starting point is 00:12:02 it's one it's one of those trailers where okay okay, we're going to have some Jaeger versus Jaeger battles for some reason. We don't know why, but we know that's in there. We know that we've got some kaijus that are going to slop together into a giant Voltron. Maybe it's a sport at the start because there's no kaiju because the world's all cleaned up. Maybe, but they are like-
Starting point is 00:12:22 It's like One Must Fall, the video game. You ever play that one? Yeah, One Must Fall 2097. I remember that game. It's a good game. But anyway, the it's like one must fall video game you'll play that one one must fall 2097 i remember that game but anyway the point is or i'm not trying to think of another one i'll think of another one the rise of the machines or something what was it called what term rise of the robots where's the what it was there was a game called rise of the robots and robots it's like straight fighter but robots punched one must fall yeah but there's also one called rise of the robots i'm not familiar with that i'm familiar with one must yeah no i get it i get it but one must fall 2097 was a spin-off to the original one must fall which was humans the robots was a sequel the so it was just
Starting point is 00:12:53 humans and one of them just had to fall it's not really that is it yeah that's like pit fighter mortal combat one of you will fall over it's not the same is it no that's true yeah what are we talking about oh yeah yeah but one point in that trailer like a missile hits a skyscraper yeah
Starting point is 00:13:10 so unless they're unless it's a fun little sport that's going way out of hand yeah right I don't know I think maybe it's some sort of civil war situation okay sure
Starting point is 00:13:18 not marvel civil war but an actual civil war oh literal civil war yeah okay cool gotcha no Charlie Hunnam either no but Charlie Day is back yes he is but he's looking much more clean cut he is and the other slippery little scientist war oh literal civil war yeah okay cool gotcha no charlie hunnam either you know but charlie day
Starting point is 00:13:25 is back yes he is but he's looking much more clean cut and the other slippery little scientist is there as well who's that guy again he's in probably a wire it looks like the son of crispin glover and the guy from mouse hunt yeah right his name i constantly forget yeah no he's in lots of stuff he's always a like a spindly greasy wizard or something yeah he's a spindly greasy wizard is he is he in a uh in a in a harry potter perhaps i don't think so i'm gonna look it up let's both look it up it's a race to the finish pacific rim yes what's it called my imdb is still loading uprising oh that's right and it's there's no colon they were very specific about that good wow here we go here we bloody go, Mason.
Starting point is 00:14:07 And his name is... Oh, that guy who's not Paul Walker's in it. Oh. His name is... I thought his name was Bum Gorman, but it's Burn Gorman. Burn Gorman. There you go. He's in...
Starting point is 00:14:17 Oh, he's in The Dark Knight. Oh, right. Okay. Rises. Okay, right. Okay. Yeah, so... Terrific. Yeah. Anyway, I'll watch okay. Rises. Oh, okay, right. Okay. Yeah, so. Terrific.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Yeah. Anyway, I'll watch this. Sure one. There's some nice colour-coded Jaegers. They look pretty good. They've got little missiles and ball and chain mace situations and a couple of bendy swords. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Some lightsabers. Lightsabers, yeah. The technology seems to have been upgraded a little bit. He was in Johnny English Reborn and Fred Claus. Oh, the double. And Sex, the City and Me, which I don't think has anything to... Is that a... That feels like an asylum knockoff of Sex and the City, the movie.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Yeah, it is. Like it's a transmorphance, but it's a... Wow. But for ladies. All right, that'll do on that. They're uncancelling the apocalypse. I just want to see a Voltron movie I don't care about this
Starting point is 00:15:05 but hey why not I like John Boyega same Game of Thrones Mason's going to be filming apparently right up to mid next year meaning
Starting point is 00:15:13 this is what that means we won't get those new episodes those sweet new drops Mason those fire I'm trying other cool terms
Starting point is 00:15:23 yes you know what I mean you're really nailing it I love it. Until 2019. We won't get those sweet Game of Thrones dabs until 2019. Everybody's doing a dab on the set. You've got to believe it.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Jon Snow doing a dab. Are you surprised that we haven't seen any of the Game of Thrones people doing a dab on a Snapchat? I mean, they probably have. They probably have, but we're not in that wheelhouse. Yeah, exactly. What do you think of the dab? we're not in that wheelhouse. Yeah, exactly. What do you think of the dab? I don't understand what it is.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Yeah, I know what it is. There's nothing else behind that though, right? Yeah, it's like planking. It's like teabagging. It's just a thing that people do for an amount of time and then everybody hates it all at once. And then somebody brings it back ironically. And then a politician will do a dab.
Starting point is 00:16:02 And it's all over. I think our- Yeah, Karl Stefanovic will do it on a morning show. Yeah. Which is, he's an Australian celebrity. I think, I believe- And it's over. Bill Shorten, our opposition leader-
Starting point is 00:16:12 Yeah. A couple of days ago was on radio and did a rap and a dab. No, he didn't. He did, look it up. All right. There's too much looking up on this show. I know, right? Shorten rap.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Oh no, he did. There's a picture of it and everything. But that's in... So for non-Australians, we had our rugby grand final. Let's say our rugby grand final. I don't care about rugby, but there was a grand final here and they brought over Macklemore to do his song, Same Love. And apparently a couple of very conservative radio shock jocks
Starting point is 00:16:51 when Macklemore came on, they broadcast the game but when the halftime started they muted the audio and played something else. And again, one of the conservative radio hosts, Ray Hadley, did his own rap apparently. Again. So a conservative anti-gay marriage rap. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Great. I will not listen to that. I think I want to listen to it. Yeah, I know. Because it's not going to change my mind, is it? I'm not going to go, wow, that's fire and dab. That's right. I've got the video up here I might play it towards the end I hope I don't put it in not
Starting point is 00:17:30 look not the conservative one the other way good and this right yeah God bearing in mind potentially could be the leader of our country doing a rap and a dab my understanding is that Macklemore liked girls even when he was pre-k is that correct no he did. Okay, good. Here we go, Mason. Here we go. There's a whole lot of hot button topics this week. The Punisher has been pulled,
Starting point is 00:17:54 or was pulled from New York Comic Con. They were going to do a booth and a panel and all that kind of thing. And the rumor was that as soon as the panel was over, that they were going to drop the entire series on Netflix. Oh, wow. Okay, right. And obviously in the light of what happened in Vegas, they wasn't considered the appropriate time to do so.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Sure. Yeah, which is, you know, look, if they had released it, I wouldn't be up in arms about it. I think it's the right call to make. I mean, who are you upsetting with that? Hey, speaking of the right call to make. Yeah, we go. Did you have that other piece of news there?
Starting point is 00:18:23 I did. I've written Northrop G because I couldn't remember what the other piece of news was. Right. So Marvel also call to make. Yeah, we go. Did you have that other piece of news there? I did. I've written Northrop G, because I couldn't remember what the other piece was. Right. So Marvel also had a panel. Yeah. Well, there was going to be a panel where they're like, we've teamed up with Northrop Grumman. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:35 And we've created an ad campaign for Northrop Grumman. I didn't know who they were, so you can explain how that is. Most people probably know. I didn't know who they were, so you might explain how that is. Northrop Grumman are like a multi-billion dollar company that makes aircraft and avionics for the war industry. Oh, I see. You might know them best. Okay, so here's the thing. You might know them best as the creators of the B-2 Spirit stealth bomber,
Starting point is 00:18:59 but what you might not know is that in 2008, the Northrop and Grumman, the sons of the founders of the company and the current ceos were actually kidnapped by terrorists and taken to a cave in gold mirror where terrorists attempted to like they tried to make them build a stealth bomber but actually those they actually escaped and they realized that uh war is not actually the answer and it's causing human misery across the whole world. And so they've changed the company, so now they just make clean energy. Just kidding, not true.
Starting point is 00:19:33 That's the plot of the film Iron Man. Northrop Grumman still make bombs. They're an arms manufacturer, and Marvel was like, hey, let's team up and let's make a fun little shield knockoff called NGEN, who are like a- E-N-G-E-N? N-G-E-N, which stands for Northrop Grumman Elite Norcs or something. I don't know what it is. They're Norcs.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Nexus, Nexus. It's elite. Sure, yeah. Anyway, and they're like, let's- And then we're going to produce a comic where they team up with the Avengers, and it's like, hey, kids, join this company that makes war. Endless war. Hey, kids, you want to be complicit in endless war?
Starting point is 00:20:07 And there was an outcry you were saying. Oh yeah. People were just, what did they say on Twitter? Marvel achieved the Twitter ratio, which is you put up a tweet and the number of negative replies to it is more than all the retweets and all the favorites put together.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Right, gotcha, yeah, yeah. And it's just people like, wasn't, like the whole, the linchpin, the cornerstone of the Marvel, of Marvel Cinematic Universe is a guy realizing that, is a guy who basically owns this company realizing that it's probably a really, really bad thing to be and changing his ways. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:20:36 And they're like, nah. So is this not a thing anymore? So they canceled the panel and the comic. Okay, cool. Immediately. Great. So, pretty good. We've all missed out there. But also there was an ad, there was also an ad where it's like, here's the panel and the comic immediately. Great. Pretty good. We've all missed out there.
Starting point is 00:20:46 But also there was also an ad where it's like, here's the fiction and it's a picture of the Stark Industries building and here's the reality and it's the Northrop Grumman building. It's like, look at it. It's so gross. I feel it's like... That's strange. I'm surprised that Disney let that slide.
Starting point is 00:21:02 It's weird, right? Here's the thing, though. I think they've reached the stage where they think they're invincible. Like, you know how Apple. Yeah. This and Inhumans. There's been some missteps. Well, there's been some missteps.
Starting point is 00:21:13 But you know how every once in a while we learn that Apple's manufacturer, like the company that manufactures Apple's products, are like horrible people. Yeah, they cut off all like Chinese kids' hands and stuff. Yeah, but nobody throws away their iPhone because they're like, oh, well, I've got all my apps on here and I've got all my contacts.
Starting point is 00:21:31 It'd be really hassle kind of thing. I think Marvel went the same way. They're like, no matter what we do, people are still going to watch the movies and buy the comic books or whatever. Let's try this and see what happens. And people were like, no. No, not this one.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Yeah, no. That comic wouldn't have done well anyway because it doesn't even sound interesting. No they're weird shield knockoffs they've got the little jumpsuits on i hate it anyway no good nah good on them yeah good on them yeah hopefully we'll see the resurgence yeah we'll see a northrop grumman tv series yeah love it imax oh so good mason are you excited for the hobbs and Shaw Fast and Furious spin-off movie? So that's The Rock and Statham, right? Yeah, kind of.
Starting point is 00:22:09 It's actually pushed back. That's going to be released July of 2019. So that's pushed back, I can tell you ahead of time, that's pushed back Fast and the Furious 9. To 2020. Yeah. Are you happy with that? I'm happier than Tyrese Gibson apparently is.
Starting point is 00:22:22 I've got that tweet in front of me. Do you want me to read it? Yeah, please. This is the tweet of a madman. So here we go. He's not happy about it. He's spoken out before about The Rock doing a spinoff film and he's like, it used to be about family.
Starting point is 00:22:34 It seems a lot like jealousy. You're telling me that this guy wouldn't take a Tyrese Gibson spinoff? Yeah, absolutely. Where he just shrieks across the ice? But here's the thing, nobody would want that because he's absolutely the worst character. In a series filled with awful non-characters, he's the worst character.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Yeah, exactly. Even as annoying comic relief, he's the worst one. See, I think Hobbs and Shaw are the most... I think they're all... The recent ones are fun. But Hobbs and Shaw have easily been the best parts of these recent films. I mean, the fact that they've tried to kill each other multiple times and realistically them becoming friends is complete nonsense.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Because he killed Han. Yeah. Yeah. You know it. But, you know, bearing in mind... By the way, it's Statham and The Rock, just for people who don't know who we're talking about. We should just call them that.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah. But go on, sorry. Yeah, I mean, if we're going to brush that Rock, just for people who don't know who we're talking about. We should just call them that. Yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah. We're going, sorry? Yeah, I mean, if we're going to brush that aside, yeah, they're the best pairing, probably. Yeah, yeah. Okay, here we go. This is from... So, wait, who currently doesn't hate Statham and The Rock?
Starting point is 00:23:36 Because Vin Diesel does. I think he put out a tweet or Instagram post that was pretty positive about it. Okay. Because what else are you going to do? That's true. You know what I mean? Be in another XXX movie? Yeah, unlikely.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Maybe. Probably. I don't know. I don't know how well that movie went. Hashtag PSA. Congratulations to At The Rock and your brother-in-law, aka Seven Bucks producing partner, some guy I don't know, for making the Fast and Furious franchise about you. Oh.
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Starting point is 00:24:36 Are you sure? Are you sure that isn't actually a Shakespeare sonnet? So beautifully constructed and sensical it was. Did you catch any of that? No, I think, well, some of it, but I think when... I mean, I didn't read it very well, did I? People, no, but I mean, people, what are you going to do? Yeah, what do I do with that?
Starting point is 00:24:52 I mean, people shouldn't, just write words. Just because hashtags exist doesn't mean you should make everything a hashtag. It also appears as if, and I don't know this for a fact, that Instagram doesn't really have a character limit. That's true, yeah. Or if it does, this is a paragraph. Yeah, you can write a whole essay. Yeah, oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:10 I love it at the end. Guys, guys, just relax. I'm just a passionate film critic. That's true, he is. Shut up. Yeah. See, I'm on At The Movies every week. Margaret and David and Tyrese.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Now, Mason, I'd love to talk about the Star Wars and Justice League trailers. But we can't. We can't because they're not out yet. The Star Wars one probably won't even be out by the time this goes out. I thought you were going to throw it on me all of a sudden. I'd like to talk about these. Here they are on the big screen. And then you open the walls and there's a big screen
Starting point is 00:25:38 and everyone's cheering my name. May so, may so. Watch the trailer. Watch the trailer. You can do it We believe in you I mean Yeah that seems unlikely
Starting point is 00:25:48 Very unlikely We don't have the budget for that No Especially for an audio medium It seems like a waste It's true But the new Justice League trailer Will be out by now
Starting point is 00:25:58 I don't know if I'm going to Even watch it though I think I know enough You're done About that film to kind of Well you have to break it down Go into it No it's like the third or fourth one
Starting point is 00:26:05 when's it out it's been like a month okay right I'll wait for it the Star Wars one I've seen actually a tiny bit of it looks good
Starting point is 00:26:13 cool from the tiny tiny bit of it when you say you've seen a tiny bit do you mean like a second of it or do you mean like
Starting point is 00:26:19 a tiny little sliver of the screen yeah like a sliver a celluloid you've seen two minutes of a sliver of the screen everyone was cheering or there's a foot or there's a country Mason Mason and then the screen you've seen you've seen two minutes of a sliver of the screen everyone was cheering or there's a mason mason and then the screen got stuck in nice i had to watch it
Starting point is 00:26:31 through peeking through the curtain yeah uh jaw both of those will be probably good uh here we go mason you're excited for the gambit movie no because of the character because of the casting because of the because doug lin the casting? Because of the... Because Doug Limeman... Well, see, I don't know who's in it anymore. Channing Tatum. Is still in it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:50 That's all... I think other people left. Okay. Apparently because of the success of Logan, they can go a little wild, made a little bit wet and wild. Oh, bleh. So that means...
Starting point is 00:27:00 Bleh. Do you reckon they're going to do the sock mask that we would see? Because Logan would give them the confidence to... I don't think they'll Logan would give them the confidence to pull off the dumbest costume ever. I don't think they'll do the sock mask. Look, I'm kind of interested. Once we see this next round of X-Men films, I might be sort of reinvigorated. You know, because one's going to be a horror movie and one's going to be a sci-fi thing or something.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah, but I mean, what if they made this kind of like a New Orleans kind of heist kind of film? That'd be fun. Well, you're in luck then, Mason, because the director apparently they're talking to is Gore Verbinski. You familiar with his work? Sort of. Mouse Hunt came up earlier. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:36 The Ring, the American version. I haven't seen the original, but I quite like the original Ring. Pirates of the Caribbean, bit of a fun romp. Oh, yeah, okay. The Weatherman, Nicolas Cage stopping his son a fun romp. Oh, yeah. Okay. The Weatherman. Nicolas Cage stopping his son from being molested. Oh, yeah. And he has a crossbow or a bow and arrow.
Starting point is 00:27:51 We've seen that. Is the Weatherman the one where he slips into a parallel universe where he's not successful or something? No, you're thinking the family man. Yeah, okay. Which one's the... It's the Weatherman when he's an arms dealer. No, that's...
Starting point is 00:28:02 Lord of War. Lord of War. Right. It's the one with Nicolas plays his son. Have I No, that's Lord of War. It's the one with Nicholas Holt plays his son. Have I seen that? We watched it at your house. Huh. 100%.
Starting point is 00:28:11 There you go. You have seen this. Wow. After that, he did Pirates of the Caribbean. Unless I broke it and watched the weatherman in your parents' living room. Pirates of the Caribbean, Dead Man's Chest. Yep. Pirates of the Caribbean, At World's End.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Both of those are... What was the second one? The second one was the giant running on a wheel. The third one was the big... So when you said, I'll enjoy this, you were kidding. It's up and down. Okay. And then he did Rango, which I haven't seen.
Starting point is 00:28:39 The one with the lizard? The lizard boy. Okay. And so they're giving him an X-Men movie. And then he did Cure for Wellness with Dane DeHaan, which was earlier this year, I believe. Great. Which apparently a lot of people did not care for.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Terrific. So there you go. He might be doing Gambit. I don't think it's a great choice, but he's got some good movies in there. Yeah. You know, he can do emotional weathermen with crossbows. I guess that's true, yeah. He can do running on a big stone wheel, which I know is your favourite thing.
Starting point is 00:29:10 He can do a mouse hunt. That is is my favorite thing people love mouse mouse heart though i've never seen it but i don't there's people are big fans lee evans is his name i've just remembered the guy from our son okay gotcha the other thing which you know what i guess here's the thing about gore babinski yep he seems like a guy who'll do what he's told yeah sure so if they've already built the movie, essentially, it'll be fine. Yeah, that doesn't sound good, though, does it? No. Now that I think about it. I'm sick of fine stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Can we get good stuff or real bad stuff, please? That'd be good, wouldn't it? Daniel Craig is also rumoured for Mr. Sinister. Oh. What do you think of that? He's got a weird head shape, so yep. I think he'd be a better bloodshot. I was thinking about that today.
Starting point is 00:29:45 He could be a good bloodshot, you're right. Yeah, yeah. Mr. Sin. So, yep. I think it'd be a better bloodshot. I was thinking about that today. He could be a good bloodshot. You're right. Mr. Sinister works, though. Is that a waste of Daniel Craig, though? Mr. Sinister? Yeah. I mean, it depends what they do with him because these X-Men villains come and go.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Name all the X-Men. Do they? Magneto? He's in a quite a bit. I'm thinking of the last big blue guy that they fought. Apocalypse. Apocalypse, yeah. No good. And before that, they fought robots and Peter Dinklage. Apocalypse. Apocalypse, yeah. No good.
Starting point is 00:30:05 And before that, they fought robots and Peter Dinklage. Correct, yes. And the future. What was before that? Kevin Bacon. He was good. Okay, I'm going to stop. No, no, this is the Reminiscence Hour.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Here we go. Okay, before that, it was Liev Schreiber and the dad from 30 Days of Night. You know it. Before that, it was Magneto again, and also a bunch of generic X-Men running across a facility. The one before that, oh, and Dark Phoenix. The one before that was, what was it, a striker? Yep. And a man in a wheelchair.
Starting point is 00:30:39 And Magneto again. And Magneto again, sort of, but he was also good. And the one before that was Magneto again. Yep. Did I get them all? And Toad. And Toad. And Magneto again, sort of, but he was also good. And the one before that was Magneto again. Yep. Did I get them all? And Toad. And Toad. And Sabretooth.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Mm-hmm. Man. Gosh, we've remembered some things, haven't we? Oh, movies, you're right. Anyway, excited for Gambit? Nah. Yeah. But it'll be nice to see a movie advertised with having Channing Tatum,
Starting point is 00:30:59 and then Channing Tatum's actually in it. I think it'd just be nice to see a movie also. Yeah. Yeah, good. Good, wouldn't it? Oh, what's that card effect going to be like? What was it last time? Did he even use cards?
Starting point is 00:31:10 I don't think he did. No. Yeah. Terrific. He had a stick. He had a stick and no sock on the head. I have no memory of Gambit. Oh, they fought on a fire escape or something.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Yeah, he was climbing and Wolverine was cutting the fire escape. Yeah, I sort of remember it. Yeah. This is unsurprising. Bride of Frankenstein, the follow-up, the second film in the Universal Dark Universe movie, has been delayed, but I've written here, but probably cancelled. Oh, absolutely, yeah. So this is the statement that they put out.
Starting point is 00:31:41 After thoughtful consideration and bean counting, presumably, Universal Pictures and director Bill Condon have decided to postpone Bride of Frankenstein. For about five years, they're going to try and reboot it again with a different name. None of us want to move too quickly to meet the release date
Starting point is 00:31:57 when we know this special movie needs more time to come together. Bill is a director whose enormous talent has been proven time and time again. That's the end of the sentence. Bill is a director whose enormous talent has been proven time and time again that's the end of the sense bill is a director deal with it and there's just a photo of all the production staff with sunglasses on just like what are you gonna do about it oh my kid's coffin and we all your kid's coffin mate that's gonna give him self-esteem issues if
Starting point is 00:32:21 you've built him a coffin already. It's a novelty coffin. Oh, okay, cool. And we look forward to continuing to work on this film together. This is it. Yeah, they're totally done. The other thing is I read that Angelina Jolie, who was playing Bride of Frankenstein, is still on for now, which means she'll take the next project and this will all go away.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Oh, absolutely. Or they'll recast with Rachel Weisz in five years or something. I also read on Twitter earlier that at one point, Angelina Jolie offered herself as a honey trap to catch Kony. Remember Kony? What? Remember Kony 2012? 2012.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Remember we were all going to get Kony 2012? Apparently she was like, I'll be the bait. We'll get Kony 2012. How stupid would Kony 2012 have to be to fall for that? Yeah very stupid Would you fall for that? No I'd assume there was a trap
Starting point is 00:33:10 Yes The trap being Brad Pitt In 2012 certainly They were at the height of their They were Yeah The thing about this is You're not going to do it obviously
Starting point is 00:33:20 I don't think I've told you this But my My review for the mummy has been copyright struck yeah right legally removed and a strike on my youtube channel which means if i get three the whole thing shuts down yeah right under the premise that i'm not allowed to talk about a movie because the dvd came out because the dvd came out that's exactly i think that's because it happened all at the same time so i told you I was thinking about making a video, which was just me going,
Starting point is 00:33:47 hey, The Mummy's fucking terrible. It's just me in it. You can't copyright strike this. Make sure you never buy this film or watch it anywhere ever. Yeah, right. Look, I had no problem with The Mummy. I mean, I did. It's really bad, obviously.
Starting point is 00:33:59 But that's just, that's very uncool, man. Exactly, yeah. Because they were, I assume because they were like, you've used copyrighted footage, but you're allowed to, for purposes of review. Yeah, also, I get sent this footage. Like, I get sent it to you. Exactly, they're like, hey, why don't you review it? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Even if I didn't, you're allowed to use it for review and critical analysis. I see. So, yeah. So, basically, the last thing I sent to them was the rebuttal, which was, if this goes any further, you have to take me to court. Cool. Yeah, which I don't love doing, obviously, but I'd be surprised if they did.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Please don't. Right. But, hey, we'll see how that goes. No, you're going to have to defend yourself in court with your ill-fitting suit. You're wearing an ill-fitting suit and one of those judges' wigs, those grey wigs. You're in an American court.
Starting point is 00:34:44 They're like, what are you doing? Don't do that here. I didn't have time to press my suit. I folded it up in my briefcase. Okay, here we go. Mason, you'll love this. I think you'll genuinely love this. You'll like this.
Starting point is 00:34:56 You know that Danny Elfman is scoring the Justice League movie. Fum, fum, fum, fum, fum, fum, fum, fum, fum, fum, fum. Justice League, yes. Correct. We've heard before he's going to bring a version of the John Williams Superman theme. He's going to flip it on its head, if you can imagine that. He's going to do a dab. He's going to do a dab.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Dabby Elfman. He's also apparently going to include elements of the 1989 Batman theme. All right. Which, the reason I think you'd love this is because it lends credence to your theory. They're set in the same universe. Even though there's many things to contradict your theory. Like what? Like that the ages don't line up.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Nah. Like that they look- Alfred fell in a Lazarus pit. Okay, fair enough. Or he's hush. Yep. Maybe he's hush. Bruce Wayne used to have a perm and a turtleneck, and now he doesn't.
Starting point is 00:35:43 He doesn't even wear glasses. Fashion. Fashion, baby, and LASIK surgery. Okay. You can LASIK hair straight? Yeah. Is that a thing? No, but you can do it with your eyes.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I'm sorry, what? LASIK surgery on your eyes. Oh, I thought you meant- That's why he doesn't wear glasses anymore. Okay, gotcha. Yep, good, good, good. Did I mention the glasses? I may have.
Starting point is 00:36:00 You did, yeah. Okay, good, yeah. Fine, they're set in the same universe. What do you want? Yes. And also, because you're talking about this is the second Joker, and there was a robin and blah blah blah and all that kind of thing does that mean it's also set in the schumacher universe unless schumacher's not canon we can pick and choose can't we exactly anything's canon whatever you want that thing to particularly
Starting point is 00:36:19 be do you have anything else to say about that no one last thing do you find danny elfman jarring like the danny elfman score jarring yes depending on what it's in i guess that's uh but yeah sometimes okay good i mean i thought that whole pairing of him and tim burton i find jarring in in general though yeah that's true but he did do it did he do spider-man. He may or he may not have. Let's look it up. I think, yeah, he's done stuff that I haven't found jarring.
Starting point is 00:36:49 All right. Did you read the first six issues of the Doomsday Clock? First six pages? Pages, sorry. Yes. Yes, I did. It's the new Watchmen comic.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Spoilers. They're this. Oh, yeah, massive spoilers. So if you haven't read it. So Doomsday Clock, for people who don't know, is a, it's it's dc's big event that's coming up soon their comic book event yep uh having another crack at the watchman
Starting point is 00:37:12 yeah so this is this is something that uh they've always said that we're never gonna do but now they've run out of ideas so now it's something they're actually gonna do and it's uh something leading out of dc rebirth and it's gonna be something they're actually going to do and it's uh something leading out of dc rebirth and it's going to be somehow they're going to combine they're going to cross over the regular dc universe and the watchman universe correct so spoilers for this we see the first six pages of this it's set in 1992 which is seven years after the original watchman ish i think um off the back of so at the end of the original watchman theish, I think. Off the back of... So at the end of the original Watchmen, the squid monster gets dumped in New York,
Starting point is 00:37:49 kills millions of people. Ozymandias seemingly gets away with it because the reason he did it was because the world was going to unite against a common threat. And if anybody... And Night Owl's left with the dilemma that if he tells everybody that he's done this, then the world will fall back into war.
Starting point is 00:38:07 And so bloody Ozymandias has got him over a barrel. But in this, it turns out that almost immediately after, because the Watchmen ends with Rorschach's journal, which reveals the secret. Dear diary. Exactly. Being pulled out of the crank file of a newspaper and somebody's going to read it.
Starting point is 00:38:29 And so apparently by 1992, the world has discovered that the exploding squid in New York City, the New York City exploding psychic squid event was in fact the work of Ozymandias. He's now the most wanted man in the world. He's disappeared. Yes. And they're hunting him down.
Starting point is 00:38:48 And 1992 has become a very thinly veiled allegory for 2017 America. Yep. Because basically, I don't know, it's Trump's America, essentially. But there was a squid. Except there was a squid, precisely. The squid has accelerated fascism in America, I guess, and whatever. Anyway, but the big reveal in this is that Rorschach is still alive somehow, despite being turned to...
Starting point is 00:39:11 He was atomized. He was atomized at the end of... He was reduced to a greasy spot in the ice at the end of Watchmen. Well, the question is, Mason, it's obviously not the real Rorschach. Or it is the real Rorschach. It's not. How do you know? I think it is the real Rorschach. Or it is the real Rorschach. It's not. How do you know? I think it is the real Rorschach.
Starting point is 00:39:26 You think that the blue guy brought him back. I think Dr. Manhattan didn't kill him. I think he sent him somewhere else. I think it's Night Owl. Oh, okay. Because he's seen what happened to the world. Right. And he's like, nothing means anything.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I'm going to eat beans and kick people in the head. But he's speaking in Rorschach's journal voice, which suggests to me that it's the same guy. Because otherwise, see, the clue would be if he was speaking in Night Owl text boxes, we'd be like, oh, that's Night Owl in a Rorschach mask. But that's an insight into Rorschach's mind. Sure.
Starting point is 00:40:03 So unless Night Owl's mind has broken as well, and maybe it has. That's what I'm saying. I don't know. I don't buy it. I just don't think people would. I think people would be very upset if they brought back original recipe Rorschach. I mean, people are going to be upset because they're doing a sequel to The Watchmen. I wonder how Alan Moore feels.
Starting point is 00:40:18 I bet he's fine with it. I'm just kidding. I bet he hates it. Yeah, look, it's it's intriguing i bet at this point because you know how uh when watchman the movie came out alan moore said take my name off the credit so now it just says a movie illustrate you know based on the graphic novel illustrated by dave gibbons yeah i bet now like alan moore's like he's got his lawyer on and he's like, can you have them say very specifically, like on the front cover, Watchmen was created by Alan Moore, but I hate them so much
Starting point is 00:40:52 and I'm just putting my name on this just so I can say how much I hate them and please take it off again. Put my name on there and then scratch it out again. Yeah, absolutely. Does any part of you want to see this though, read this though? Yeah, definitely. Yeah, me too, yeah. Oh, oh yeah i never read before watchman you did yes and it was fine some of it's better than others some of it's better than others yeah but i am interested in catching up on this world it does ruin kind of the point and the ambiguity it sure does
Starting point is 00:41:19 the first one but that's the thing the the age of storylines that end on any kind of ambiguous note is kind of done yeah that's right yeah there's no that's i mean that's i think a complaint that a lot of people had about the new twin peaks yeah it's like what does this mean what's the solution what's the flashing lights mean we've put them through a morse code thing and we'll determine what the secret there is no secret david lynch when he made the original Twin Peaks, just put some weird stuff into a TV series. It doesn't mean anything. And now he's just made another series that doesn't mean anything.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Did you watch it? No. I don't care. And everybody's jumping through hoops to figure it out. There's nothing to figure out. It's just ambiguous for the sake of being ambiguous. Same with this. Well, it's not the same.
Starting point is 00:42:01 I mean, Watchmen's deliberately ambiguous so you can use your own mind to think about what might happen in the future. But no, there's no time for that. Here's what happened in the future. That is the past. I do like the time jump. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:14 I like that. Look, a lot of this I do like. I'd rather they didn't, but hey, they're going to do it so I'll at least give the first couple a go. Geoff Johns is doing it, is that right? Yeah, and apparently this is his magnum opusus this is the thing he's most proud of so the sequel to a comic that shouldn't have had a sequel written by a guy who hates the idea of anybody continuing his work yes precisely okay yeah i yeah again i, I don't know, but I don't think that's Night Owl in that suit. I think it's, I think maybe, you know what?
Starting point is 00:42:48 Because Dr. Manhattan, I'd have to, I'd have to reread it, but I. I'm fairly certain he was just blood. But that's the thing. Like, I think that the loophole might be that he doesn't definitively say, I am going to turn you to ash here. He might be like, I have to get rid of you. I'll read it later and I'll figure it out. Put you on Mars or whatever. Yeah, I mean, he might have teleported him somewhere else
Starting point is 00:43:11 or maybe he did kill him and he's like, well, I'll just bring him back. Dr. Manhattan reassembled himself. From nothingness. From nothingness. So it's very possible that he could be back. Yeah. I just think also Dr. Manhattan,
Starting point is 00:43:23 I don't know, would Dr.attan wise up enough to would he want raw shack to be back i mean i guess his opinion has changed because of what's yeah exactly because the idea is also this crosses over with other dc books yes it's going to bleed into everything yeah remember the button the button the button you know this is going to be a this this is going to be a superman story as well for the most part apparently. It's going to be Captain Dickout versus Superman. Exactly, yeah. So here we go. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:51 I'm kind of looking forward to it. Yeah, sure. We all look forward to some things and other things and not so much. Isn't that right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies
Starting point is 00:44:09 on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Will you rise with the sun to help change mental health care forever? Join the Sunrise Challenge to raise funds for CAMH, the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health, to support life-saving progress in mental health care.
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Starting point is 00:45:06 Excellent. We're going to do a non-spoilers, which is going to be difficult because straight out of the gate, there's so many things that we don't know about this movie that's revealed like in the first section. Immediately. That's true. Yeah. So that'll probably be a brief first section, but I would say if you are interested in seeing
Starting point is 00:45:20 this, do not listen to any of this because we'll have to reveal some story points to kind of talk about it vaguely. And then there'll be a very definitive spoiler section. Just quickly, a lot of people have asked me this. If you're a fan of the first Blade Runner, I'd imagine you'd love this, correct? Yes. If you've never seen it, do you think you could
Starting point is 00:45:40 go in and enjoy this? I think so. But do you think you should maybe just watch like a 5-10 minute recap? Ah, no yeah it does enough kind of flashbacks where i don't think you have to and this is kind of an opening crawl which explains the concept of replicants and the what happened in the past um uh i did prior to this i did watch the three shorts that are on youtube right yeah apparently it's pronounced Dennis Villeneuve. Yes, I've heard that also. I'm going to call it Dennis Villeneuve. I'm still going to call him Villeneuve. I'm going to call him Dennyvilly.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Dennyvilly, that sounds good. Nice. But anyway, there's three shorts on YouTube that are set in between the first Blade Runner and the second Blade Runner. Two are live action, one's animated. Yep. Maybe give those a whirl.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Yeah, they're good. And they set up this world. Not required viewing, but in total it'll take you 25 minutes to watch them all. Yeah. They do have... It does have the issue that they did again with Alien Covenant. Right. Where you build up a rapport with a particular character prior to going into the movie.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Yes. And then you see this character and it'd be more... I would say you'd be more invested in this character if they'd put going into the movie yes and then you see this character and it'd be more i would say you'd be more invested in this character if they put that in the movie as opposed to hey did you did you watch the supplementary material oh you didn't okay well this is the guy then yes yeah but yeah i don't disagree with that i think alien covenant is worse for that oh sure yeah but uh yeah there's a little bit i apologize to this. I apologize for trying to compare Alien Covenant and this movie. Mason, it's okay. They're both science fiction.
Starting point is 00:47:08 They both have aliens. It's true. Is that a spoiler? It doesn't have aliens. I was going to say it doesn't have aliens. You're like, oh, I missed a whole subplot there. Now, Mason, this is somewhat of a disappointing box office weekend. I heard, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:21 I should have given you the numbers and got you to figure it out. Because I know you know nothing or care little for box office numbers. I saw the yeah. I should have given you the numbers and got you to figure it out because I know you know nothing or care little for box office numbers. I saw the numbers and I already knew. Yeah, does anybody care about this when I do box office numbers? I feel some people must. We only talk about it briefly. I rarely stop to explain it at length. So we normally just breeze past this section.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Why are we still on it? Yeah, I know, right? Let's get into it. Let's get into it. I reckon it's going to have a $42 million US weekend on the back of the budget of between $150 million and $185 million plus marketing, et cetera, et cetera. That seems very low. The thing is, if you're going to make a two-hour and 45-minute Blade Runner sequel to a movie from 35 years ago
Starting point is 00:47:55 which bombed at the time that's very divisive in terms of fan base, it's built up a core fan base. That's true. But anybody who doesn't know anything about Blade Runner is probably not going to see this. But it's got The Goose, Ryan Gosling, and it's got Harrison Ford. Yeah, it's got Jared Leto. It's got some fun visuals.
Starting point is 00:48:10 It's got some very exciting visuals. But the other thing is when your movie's nearly three hours long. It's got big naked ladies. It's got big naked ladies. Too big in my opinion. It's got the bare naked ladies. It's got the bare naked ladies. Ryan Gosling's like, oh man, it's such a tough god it's it's such a tough
Starting point is 00:48:27 life in 2049 los angeles uh oh i'm glad they cloned the bare naked ladies in every in every bar in every dive bar in the city you can go watch the bare naked ladies so and also because it's nearly three hours long that means you means you've got less session times. That's true. So, look, I'm not surprised. This will eventually make its money back. They're going to do steelbooks and digital releases and they'll probably do another slightly altered cut,
Starting point is 00:48:53 though apparently Denny Ville says it's not the case and this is definitive. Right, okay. It feels definitive. It doesn't feel like there's anything missing or that you'd need to add. But, Mason, what did you think the story was without spoiling everything?
Starting point is 00:49:06 All right, I can do this. Okay, here we go. Ryan Gosling. The Goose. He's K. Yeah. He's a cool dude. He's okay.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Yeah. And he's a guy and his job is to retire replicants. Yes. Who are human seeming robots. Yep. That are going rogue. Correct. By doing things like trying to live their lives.
Starting point is 00:49:26 But he goes to him and he kills him. It's like, yeah, so he's essentially the Harrison Ford character. Yeah. From the first one, yeah. But then he uncovers a mystery. Oh no! And what's he going to do? Solve the mystery and cry a lot.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Maybe he'll team up with Harrison Ford. They'll certainly meet in a very orange place, like they do in the trailer. No spoilers, it's in the trailer. They'll point some guns at each other or something. Correct. Yeah. Jared Leto's in it too.
Starting point is 00:49:55 And a lady with a very severe fringe. Do you want to talk about them first? What? Jared Leto and the severe fringe lady. Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't hate his performance. I think it's fine.
Starting point is 00:50:09 I think you... Is it a bias? I think it's a bias. I think you hate him in everything now. No, I don't think that's true because I've seen him in stuff that I really like. Like he's not in Fight Club where he gets his face punched in. Oh, yeah, that's true. I can see his acting.
Starting point is 00:50:24 And you can't see no not the same way interesting yeah okay i mean yeah i mean harrison ford does some like some goofball faces or whatever but also harrison ford's like 110 years old it's true like jared leto he comes in he does his like sinister voice or whatever and he creeps about and like i can hear him doing a voice as well. Harrison Ford isn't doing a voice. No one else is doing a voice. But I don't know what Jared Leto's voice is,
Starting point is 00:50:53 like his real voice. I assume it sounds a lot like that, if I'm honest with you, like a creep. Well, you and Ben Vanell from Filthy Casuals are on the same page then. You're both against me. Why don't you start your own podcast? You can call it The Leto Love Letter. Sounds really good. We'll wear kimonos as we record it be great but i thought his henchman
Starting point is 00:51:11 was more effective as a villain love is her name yeah and the other thing about it i i found that jared lido's i know i kind of get into spoilers like i'll hold on we can do this no i'll hold back on it i just don't think there was't think there was a fulfilling character arc for that particular character. Well, he's barely in it. Yeah. So if you're Jared Leto's biggest fan, if you're going to the cinema listening to the 30 Seconds to Mars discography. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Then, look, we'll talk about it. But yeah, he's barely in this. Yeah. That being said, everybody else is really good. Yeah, everybody's getting good performance. David's fantastic. David Batista's good in this yeah that being said everybody else is really good yeah everybody's getting good performance Dave's fantastic Dave Batista's good in this Dave Batista's fantastic
Starting point is 00:51:48 he's really might be his best performance yeah oh hang on Greg's just calling me okay for everybody at home Greg is what I call my wife
Starting point is 00:51:55 it's not weird Greg what's up yeah no I gave it to him so I'll give it to him next Saturday I think oh great alright Mason and I are recording so can i call you back i'll speak to you later okay love you bye greg that was my wife greg he loves his wife
Starting point is 00:52:13 what a lame ward come on man nah uh chloe says also thank you to all the people who we mentioned briefly last week she fell over running and knocked a lot of her teeth out she sure did uh which are now it's looking much better it's looking pretty yeah you barely notice yeah but who we mentioned briefly last week, she fell over running and knocked a lot of her teeth out. She sure did. Which are now, it's looking much better. It's looking pretty bloody pretty. Yeah, you barely notice. Yeah, but she's, yeah, it's only temporary, but she's going to fix it again. She actually did an episode on it of her podcast,
Starting point is 00:52:35 Just Make the Thing, which I'll link below. You can bloody check it out. It's a real Kanye West moment for her. In what sense? He broke his jaw. Did he? He was a, not recently this is years ago i was gonna make a lewd reference to a self-act yeah well potentially no because he because you
Starting point is 00:52:52 know he's he's a he's a rapper is he yeah well i'm also a rapper you're not it's you can't rap or dab all right but he started out as a hip-hop producer yes and it was in the era where you couldn't be a hip-hop producer and be an And it was in the era where you couldn't be a hip-hop producer and be like a rapper. You couldn't cross over. Right. But he was like, no, I want to be one. And then he broke his jaw in a car accident.
Starting point is 00:53:11 And then he recorded a song called Through the Wire where he raps with a broken jaw. Ah. Yeah. This was obviously a long time ago. This was a long time ago. It's not really a relevant story then, is it? Oh, what?
Starting point is 00:53:21 I mean, I'm just saying. I mean, it's a different injury and it happened in a different era. That's true and to different people now that I think about it yeah yeah. But yeah she's doing well
Starting point is 00:53:31 thank you for all the nice messages. Yeah Gosling's great obviously he's there's a lot of nuance to his performance a lot of crying
Starting point is 00:53:41 a lot of crying oh not as much there is some there's some crying yeah he definitely he becomes more emotionally affected as the kind of the movie progresses A lot of crying. A lot of crying. Not as much. There is some. There's some crying. Yeah. He definitely becomes more emotionally affected as the movie progresses, as the story kind of unfolds, and I think he handles that really, really well.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Ford's Harrison Ford. I think he's good. I think there's a scene that he has with Jared Leto and their acting styles are very... It's very evident that they're from different schools. Yeah, different eras and different schools yeah different areas in different schools that's true yeah yeah yeah uh robin wright penn is uh great in it great really good chief which is the chief uh joy who's uh ryan goes the goose's wife or companion
Starting point is 00:54:16 is fantastic also uh and i think that's all the main players there's a few other bits and pieces that's true but i would say look it, it's probably a personal bias thing, the Jared Leto thing, because I only see Jared Leto like I only see Johnny Depp. So I could be wrong on that. You're probably right. Yeah. But all in all, fantastic performances.
Starting point is 00:54:37 It's kind of a slow burn, isn't it? Boy, it's a slow burn. If you want wham, bam, thank you, Blade Runner, this is not for you, Mason. Tonally, it's very similar to the first one. Yeah, right. In that it is a bit of a meander. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:49 I mean, it's 2 hours and 45 minutes, so it's definitely a meander. I feel it's more like the first one's more meandering. It's just kind of things kind of sort of loosely happen to Harrison Ford and he kind of fumbles about. This one, it's more detecting and going from A to B to C. It feels like Ryan Gosling is the driving force of the movie as opposed to things just kind of happen to detect it. But at the same time, I feel at the same time,
Starting point is 00:55:11 the plot is very convenient. Yes. It's a very... We'll have to talk about it in spoilers, I feel, but the plot has a lot of contrivances. Yes. Or one massive contrivance. In particular, right? Yeah. Okay. Which felt quite unnatural to me, but the plot has a lot of contrivances. Yes. Or one massive contrivance. In particular, right?
Starting point is 00:55:26 Yeah. Okay. Which felt quite unnatural to me, but. Well, hold off, Mason, if you don't mind. All right. If you don't bloody mind. It's an incredible looking film, right? Looks real good.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Like one of the most amazing films that's ever been filmed. One of the most amazing Blade Runner films. Yes. One of the two. Yeah, that's true. Of the three. Of the three big ones, big ones certainly yeah it's probably the best looking one yeah it's incredible i mean you can see like the budget obviously went
Starting point is 00:55:50 on a lot of real sets real locations throwing dust on everybody yeah you know and that being said given that we did watch it the original last week yeah that one still holds up yeah it looks really good looks really good yeah i mean in this one we didn't get any umbrellas with like fluorescent light sticks yeah what was that what kind of joke is that what are they doing i don't know is this supposed to be a sequel or a prequel what is interesting though is that we did we're still in that weird parallel universe where nobody has a mobile phone which i love yeah and a big point of this story is i was gonna talk well this is in this one of the shorts beforehand the reason that society is the way it is so i, this is in one of the shorts beforehand. The reason that society is the way it is, so I guess this is a minor spoiler for the shorts,
Starting point is 00:56:27 if you haven't watched the shorts. But again, if you don't want to know anything, you shouldn't be listening to this. There was a blackout in 2022 caused by some replicants in order to wipe their files clean. So the reason that replicants, the original, some of the older model replicants are still being hunted, the Nexus 8s, is because those files are gone and they've all reverted back to analog files in paper which
Starting point is 00:56:50 i thought was really really interesting but when you say a blackout not like a little blackout when you're in your house and you're like oh this is inconvenient for the 20 minutes it's going to last it was an emp and everything like a worldwide catastrophe yeah which i thought was really interesting so there's fragments of stuff that was from back then. Yeah. But a lot of it is now physical files in little drawers and things like that. Yeah. So, well, I like that, that the world went, you know what,
Starting point is 00:57:14 we're not going to go digital anymore. We're going to go backwards. I thought that was a nice little wrinkle, Mason. Action sequences. Light on action, would you say? Yes. Yeah. Let me think.
Starting point is 00:57:24 There's bits and bobs. There's bobs and bibs. There's bibs and bobs and bibs. That's true. What we did get was pretty effective, though, I think. Right. Yep. Sure.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Yeah. Pretty visceral. Yeah, absolutely. I'm trying to think. Is there a moment like the Harrison Ford finger break scene from the first one? Yes. I can't remember off the top of my head. There was a scene set in a forensics lab,
Starting point is 00:57:45 which is, I feel, quite like that. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, that's pretty brutal. I remember that. You know what I wasn't really impressed? I was speaking to Rezdolf Matt, who does some editing for me. Very super nice guy.
Starting point is 00:57:56 He was saying the music in this wasn't great. And thinking back on it, I didn't think it was either. I think it's Hans Zimmer. I might be wrong. It is Hans Zimmer, yeah. But there's kind of shades of the original, but it's a lot of throat singing, a lot of...
Starting point is 00:58:11 There's a lot of that. Yeah, there is true. And, yeah. I don't know. I felt that kind of... I don't know. Maybe it was kind of an interesting... Because it was more sinister, which I feel is more...
Starting point is 00:58:23 Well, the first one's more optimistic. You mentioned this last bit. Yeah, but what I also found was interesting in the animated short, which is set in 2022, which is only three years after the original. Right. That is very... That's very Vangelis.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Okay, yeah. And that was by somebody I'm a fan of, Flying Lotus, who's like an electronics producer, who like did a dead-on impression of Vangelis. Like the car? Yes, like the car. Do you think they didn't go electronic because the vangelis the ford vangelis do you think it does harrison ford vangelis do you think it doesn't do you think they didn't go electronic because maybe it doesn't hold up as well yeah oh absolutely yeah and maybe because they've returned to this analog era in a way, maybe that's got something to do with it as well. No.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Oh, maybe, yeah. Okay, I didn't think of... That's just James, by the way. He can do two voices at the same time. Correct. And I can rap also. I can do two things. I think one... In a lot of ways, this movie is better than the first,
Starting point is 00:59:22 but that's also got to do with the era it was made. I think this movie did a better job of tackling what it means to be human and what it means to be a replicant. And if you've essentially functioned like a human being and you have those emotions and memories, then essentially what difference is there? I think this movie did a better job of that because... Well, you can't really...
Starting point is 00:59:42 It would have been hard to do that in the first one because this built off the complexity of the first yeah i think it took it in places which i didn't expect which it i think it improved on the universe and yeah yeah it out more as opposed to kind of doing a rehash or doing something bad if that makes sense i think it was i think it was a the way they went to explore those themes was really intriguing, I found. I agree. Yeah. Do you think it felt like it was addressing issues in society now? Not as much. Did you get a sense? No, but I read an article this week about the original Blade Runner,
Starting point is 01:00:17 and something that never even occurred to me, that the original Blade Runner seems very appropriate to now because it's about when you think about the first one Deckard goes out and he just there are people there are people who are the replicants in the original are for the most part completely indistinguishable from from people yeah except somebody's decided they're not people and they're submitted to these tests. They're completely incomprehensible. And they're like,
Starting point is 01:00:48 you, you get tested for emotional reactions and responses, but you have to have exactly the right ones. It's like, it's not like the replicants are like robots and they're like, I do not understand whatever. They're still upset when they flip the tortoise or whatever, but it's not the right.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Yeah. They don't have the memories to lean on yeah but it's like this this group of people who are like we don't think you're human and we're gonna get rid of you that's really interesting i didn't think of that and people like yeah this isn't that similar from right now where people like you know i don't get out of our bloody country exactly yeah that's that's what you think is what i'm saying. No, no wrong. No. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:01:27 That's really interesting. Yeah. But again, I think that that movie had a lot more ambiguity and I think this one was just like, no, here's a whole pile of answers. You want answers? Here's some answers. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:01:39 And I guess that is part and parcel of it being more of a detective movie. P&P, yeah. You have to give people some answers, otherwise they're going to be unsatisfied. But also no answers. Also no answers. In some ways. Should we move on to spoilers?
Starting point is 01:01:53 Let's move on to spoilers. You know what, I'm going to say best movie ever. I had some issues with it. Me too. Which I think we will discuss in spoilers. But I really, really enjoyed it. This is right up my alley, this kind of thing. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:02:03 You know what I mean? I didn't find it really... There was a few scenes that I thought this could probably be cut down a bit. Like, this is right up my alley, this kind of thing. Yeah, right. You know what I mean? I didn't find it really... There was a few scenes that I thought this could probably be cut down a bit. Yeah, yeah. The bit with the wooden horse. That's not really a spoiler. Sure, right. I'm like, this is...
Starting point is 01:02:13 I mean, we know what it is. Can we... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speed that along. But in general, and I'll talk about some of the issues that I have with it. I thoroughly enjoyed this. And I think I might see it again. It's a big undertaking to go and see it again.
Starting point is 01:02:24 So maybe I'll wait to watch it digitally. but it's definitely worth seeing on on a big screen isn't it mason yes and i went with my brother as well the one that you didn't like don't like continue to not like to do not like thank you and he don't don't imply in the canon that i've somehow reconciled with your brother that i don't like i have not i would never also just before we go into spoilers, I made an Easter egg video for this which talks about all the different models of replicants and what happened in between.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Cool. And try to answer some of the questions of the movie as in like what's going on with Deckard and all that kind of thing. But that's spoilers as well. You definitively answer whether or not he is a replicant. Correct. Spoilers.
Starting point is 01:03:02 We don't know if he's a replicant. We don't know. We still don't know. I replicant We don't know We still don't know I like that though I guess there's an implication That because We went from Nexus 6 To Nexus 8 That he's a 7
Starting point is 01:03:12 That he's a 7 Even Rachel is 7 Right Yeah I mean You know I think the point of this movie Is though
Starting point is 01:03:19 It doesn't matter And the other thing is I mean they're Hollywood 10s Yeah that's true It doesn't matter And he doesn't thing is- I mean, they're Hollywood tens. Yeah, that's true. It doesn't matter. And he doesn't care. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Like, there's a bit where Jared Leto pushes him to be like, have you ever considered that you're just, you're also- Because of this and this and this and this. And he's like, I don't care. Yeah. Get fucked, basically. That's true, yeah. But I think that's also, because he kind of came to that understanding
Starting point is 01:03:42 at the end of the first movie. Like, he came to realize that replicants are essentially, they're indistinguishable from people. Except they can punch through a wall. So do you like the idea that at the end of the first Blade Runner, we're like, who knows where they're going to end up? What's life about? You know, what's it all about? But in this, they're like, yeah, they had a kid and they're off. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Do you like that? Yeah. Okay. I like the idea that, well, what I liked most about it was the, as opposed to just being like, there's more replicants and we still don't like them. Yeah. It added the wrinkle of if these robots can produce a baby, can have children, then that's a different, like they're not just robots then.
Starting point is 01:04:18 You can't ignore that. That's true, yeah. Yeah. So I found that element of it really interesting. You did not? Well, I guess so, but also, you it really interesting uh you did not well i guess so but also you know i think you're probably right and i guess the idea being that the the secret to doing that is is only in rachel or the kid right but that's the thing like
Starting point is 01:04:35 surely if deckard is a replicant and he is the seven yeah then couldn't nianda wallace just pull him apart and get the well he was probably gonna he was taking him off world that's true that's true to do that very thing anyway here's the thing that i disliked about this movie yeah is that the whole thing was based around gosling oh yeah we should say in spoilers gosling is a replicant as well straight up yeah that's how you almost immediately yeah because at the start he fights d Bautista and Dave Bautista slams his head into the wall about eight times. And I'm like, oh.
Starting point is 01:05:09 That's monster strength. Wouldn't it be weird if he died? Straight up. First scene, yeah. And the rest was in flashback or something. That'd be fun. But anyway, yeah. So we reveal that he feels no pain and he's basically, he's a.
Starting point is 01:05:21 I think he feels pain to an extent. I don't know. Yeah. Is he a nine? He's a nine. Yeah. Okay. Right. Yeah. So Baut know Is he a 9? He's a 9, yeah Okay, right So Batista's an 8 But he's a Hollywood 11
Starting point is 01:05:28 If you ask me But Batista's an 8 And as we saw in the short film in between Leto made the 9s Hollywood 11s Because they're supposed to be more compliant And that's the reason they're now able to Basically make a replicant
Starting point is 01:05:46 that hunts other replicants. But that's interesting because in the short that has Jared Leto in it, he commands one of his replicants to kill himself, and he does. Yes. But he can't do that with Leto, with Kay for some reason. Well, I guess he's not also in charge of him. Oh, I see. Like he answers to the-
Starting point is 01:06:03 The chief. The Blade Runner. Right, okay. So whatever, the chief the blade runner so whatever the chief yeah okay sure i found that really interesting that she kind of the the chief robin wright really struggled to just to determine to separate him from being a man or a machine yeah right like there's a i mean she wanted to bone him obviously and it's also implied that maybe she already has at some point right yeah is that did you get that feeling kind of yeah and she even mentions like i forget that you're a machine sometimes but yet you see there's other moments where a cop walks she already has at some point. Oh, right, yeah. Do you get that feeling? Yeah, kind of, yeah. And she even mentions, like,
Starting point is 01:06:26 I forget that you're a machine sometimes. But yet you see there's other moments where a cop walks past him and, like, yells in his face, skin job or something like that. Yeah, right. Which is, you know, like the slur in this universe. And he flinches because presumably he's programmed not to hit cops.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Yeah, right. Because there's another bit in the movie where he gets attacked in a junkyard and he full-on picks a guy up and breaks him over his knee like Bane, throws him aside and then shoots like four guys. I loved the action sequence. That was good, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Just went so precise and brutal. Yeah, right. I thought they were really well done. Yeah. But yeah, so the thing that I didn't like is that the plot revolved entirely around Kay. Yeah. In the sense that he,
Starting point is 01:07:10 he found the replicants and then it turned out that Rachel was in the box underneath the farm. And then it turned out that maybe he was, he had the memories and maybe he was the kid, but then like, yeah, we, I found it weird, weird and convenient.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Yeah, sure. That's, but I guess potentially, I mean, someone could have, anybody could have found it, I guess. And he just happened to. Yeah, sure. That's what I'm trying to say. But I guess potentially... I mean, someone could have... Anybody could have found it, I guess. And he just happened to.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Yeah, and I guess potentially some other Blade Runners have come across, you know, what's his name? Sapper Morton and have been killed by him or what have you. Yeah, right. I don't know. That's right. But I guess given that he was a central part of the story and he was... Yeah, well, it's not about a guy who doesn't go
Starting point is 01:07:45 on an adventure it's true yeah yeah yeah but i i like that element of my brother the one you don't like actually caught before is like something about what if he turns out to be harrison ford's son i'm like that'll be stupid they won't do that and then they went in that direction but it happened on it happened so early that i thought i think this is going to twist back yeah where he's just going to where he's not because i... Because basically by the end of the movie, if you're still listening and you haven't seen it, it's revealed that he's not Harrison Ford's son, but he has some of the memories of Harrison Ford's real daughter.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Yes. And that's why he's able to solve certain things in this mission. And so he thinks that he... It comes to the point where he thinks that maybe he might be human or partially human. I guess maybe there are other... I guess potentially there are other Series 9 replicants that also have her memories. They have that same memory, exactly.
Starting point is 01:08:29 So maybe any replicant who came upon this would have figured it out the same. Yeah, right. Maybe it's just a coincidence that it was him. Yeah. He was just the first one on the scene. One of the replicants even says to him, you're not the first one to think. We all want it to be us, this human-replicant hybrid.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Yeah, okay, you know what? You're right. I retract that earlier complaint because I guess whichever replicant went there would have sent up the drone from the thing, would have found the box, would have whatever, and maybe it's 50-50, they have the dream with the force. Yeah, all the nines might have it, might have that particular dream. But what I really like that about as well,
Starting point is 01:09:04 first of all, I like that he was just a guy. I think that's my favorite thing in a character is just a guy. Just an everyman, just like us. He's not special. You know what I mean? He puts on his robot pants one leg at a time. Or maybe he doesn't. Yeah, you could probably jump into him.
Starting point is 01:09:18 But by the end, so he wasn't special. He was chosen for this and he had the skills to kind of, he was chosen in a way. But at the same time, there was more to it than that because essentially he was Harrison Ford's son because he had the memories of the kid. So in a way he was at the same time, which I thought was really interesting.
Starting point is 01:09:38 And so he had a connection to that character even though they weren't actually related. They weren't actually related, yeah. Because he had as much of a connection to Harrison Ford as his actual daughter did, since he spent zero time with her it's true yeah just put her in a bubble for 30 years for 30 years yeah i actually i like that the daughter character a lot i didn't pick that it was going to be her like that didn't go to me at all that uh that it was going to be her but uh you also when she came back at the end although
Starting point is 01:10:00 she was a good actor so i guess she was a good actor she did some good acting like... She was a good actor. She did some good acting. Yeah. Yeah. She seemed very nice, so I guess that makes... Do you think she was putting out her own memories in the world on purpose so somebody could find her?
Starting point is 01:10:12 Oh, maybe. Do you think there was too much sequel bait in this movie? Because there was the woman who's like, I've got thousands of replicants and I can...
Starting point is 01:10:19 We're going to start a war. Where are they? Somewhere else? When are you going to start that war? Later? We'll get around to it. We'll get around to it eventually to it eventually yeah i think there is but i don't think we're gonna see it anytime soon especially with these numbers also i'd be happy to wait 10 15 all right okay all right like we don't need we don't need a rep we don't need a blade runner franchise really
Starting point is 01:10:37 that's true that's do you want to see a sequel ah that's the thing that i really like the world yeah right i wouldn't mind revisiting it but I they pulled this off and I'm not sure if I want it they'll never do it again right yeah I don't know man yeah what else was good
Starting point is 01:10:53 there was a CGI Rachel in this awful yeah not good was it that's the worst one of those I've ever seen no the worst one was from Kingsman what happened in that one
Starting point is 01:11:02 young Colin Firth oh I can't even remember that it was incredibly bad was that this who do you reckon was that yeah the recent Kingsman. What happened in that one? Young Colin Firth. Oh, I can't even remember that. It was incredibly bad. Was that this? Who do you reckon was that? Yeah, the recent Kingsman. No, this was worse than that. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:11:11 You know what made it particular? It was so plasticky. It was unnerving also because just prior to that, they showed actual footage of her. Yeah, right. So you had that kind of frame of reference. I think they just shouldn't have shown her face. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Or got an actor that looks kind of like her. Good enough. Yeah, and gone good enough. Yeah, but I could see why they did it. I think it's a little bit better than... Because they hate us. Yeah, they hate us. I think it's a little bit better than the Princess Leia stuff
Starting point is 01:11:34 and the Tarkin stuff. Yeah. But it was still very unpleasant to look at. And the way that she talks, it's very odd. You know what I did like the idea of? Ryan Gosling's girlfriend joy is a is a holographic woman correct who's tethered to his house yep and she makes him feel special and and all those kind of things and looks after him and they he really loves her it seems
Starting point is 01:11:57 yes she gets and then she gets destroyed at one point yep and then he comes across an advertisement for her, a giant bare naked lady. And then she calls him Joe, which is also what the home version of her called him. Because she's like, you should have a real name if you're a real boy. Right, right. Which basically means there's not that much depth to that character. You know what I mean? It's just a program to make you feel special. Oh, okay, right.
Starting point is 01:12:24 That kind of encourages you to upgrade them, means you give more money so you can have the portable version i assumed she was networked and the ad calls him joe because she called him joe but i think i don't think anything's networked oh that's true yeah yeah that's that's how i i just think yeah so what did you think of the idea that in purchasing an emitter for her, she became an exposition machine? So they could then have conversations, because otherwise he's just walking around. I think maybe they were like, okay,
Starting point is 01:12:54 the original Blade Runner was very confusing for a lot of people. We need to have some sort of device to explain some of the more complicated elements, but we can't have a Harrison Ford voiceover, a Ryan Gosling voiceover. They should have just had Harrison Ford's voiceover. Yeah, totally. Gosling did a monologue.
Starting point is 01:13:08 What's this kid? What's this kid about? Holograms. But I think they were like, okay, well, if we have her follow him around, she can be like, hey, what are we doing now? Oh, we're going to the Badlands. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:13:20 That sounds great. No, but I thought that was, I know the way I interpreted it as like, he was in love with her and she's designed to respond in that particular way. But even then, like, cause there's actually, it's a very clever sex scene where she merges with another replicant. Yeah, clever. It was weird. But I was like, I've never, I've genuinely never seen some of this before.
Starting point is 01:13:40 But, and afterwards the replicant says, you know, I've seen inside your mind, there's really not much to you. Which to me arguably turns out to be true. I guess that's right, yeah. Am I incorrect, Mason? No, you've found a lot of layers in this movie. And you didn't find any? I found a couple of layers.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Oh, good. What else do we want to talk about, Mason? Is that it? I don't know. Look, I could talk about this again another time. I'm sure other things will come up oh yeah the action scene I enjoyed the fact that the the henchwoman could just at one point just operates a drone and just blows up all of Ryan Gosling's opponents yeah I think it's
Starting point is 01:14:18 gonna be a long drawn-out fight sequence or a negotiation or whatever and she's just like I'll just blow them all up and he's just like all right and he just carries on yeah you know what was also good about his performance it starts very kind of robotic and drive like and you see him develop emotions yeah right as the movie progresses do you think he's dead at the end he seems dead ah there's a few parallels to drive but yeah because the drive remember at the end of drive when he's lying he might be dead yeah but then he's not dead he's not dead do you think he was dead dead yeah but then he's not dead he's not dead do you think he was dead in this?
Starting point is 01:14:46 I think he's not dead he got one of those wounds where it's bad but it's not so bad that you can't go somewhere before you die yeah and if you recall in the first sequence
Starting point is 01:14:55 he's stabbed through the arm and he just glues it back together so I reckon he's quite resilient I think he's fine yeah okay fair enough or he's dead no I think he's fine yeah okay fair enough yeah nice pretty good right. No, I think he's fine. Yeah, okay, fair enough.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Pretty good, right? You know what I thought was quite a strange bit, where you see they're fighting in a spinner that's drowning. Yep. Going under, cars don't drown. You know what I mean? No, I get it. Maybe the future cars do drown, though.
Starting point is 01:15:21 They're like, help me, Kay. I'm your loyal car. Gosling's fighting severe fringe. Yes. And you just see Harrison Ford's goofy head going, like just got to bump it up and down in the water. Which is weird as a narrative choice because you'd think if he wants to protect his daughter,
Starting point is 01:15:43 why wouldn't he just drown himself? Oh, yeah, that's true, actually. Yeah, he could have. Maybe it's because he believes in Kay. Yeah, well, that's true. Maybe he drowned himself after. Yeah, hopefully. Do you think it was weird how that woman was like...
Starting point is 01:15:54 Maybe he wanted to kill himself in front of his daughter. That's what happens after the camera's switched off. Did you find it weird how she was like, I'm the best. It's like, settle down. We're all pretty good. Nah, she's good good she's pretty good yeah you know actually this sequence i really enjoyed there's a bit where harrison ford and
Starting point is 01:16:11 um gosling the goose have a bit of a punch up and a bloody shootout in an albus uh whole uh vegas holographic show yeah and the sound is cutting in and out but it's really sparse so it's not like it'll play for 30 seconds and then stop. It's just like... Yeah, right. And then it's complete silence and it's... Yeah, I really like that. Is Harrison Ford's Diet in Las Vegas just booze and bees?
Starting point is 01:16:36 Booze and bees, baby, you know it. Yeah, I guess that's Vegas. It's Vegas for you, baby. Yeah, it is. That's about it. You posted this on... I put this in my Easter egg video as well, but you posted this on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Oh, yeah. Encouraged by the Sydney dust storm. Yeah. If you haven't seen it, just Google 2009 Sydney dust storm and there's a great picture of Sydney's Luna Park with its giant clown face. Like Luna Park's like an amusement park.
Starting point is 01:16:59 It's got a big old clown face and it's just in this, it looks like it's in the desert. This completely orange desert. It looks great. And it's exactly what they did clown face and it's just in this, it looks like it's in the desert, this completely orange desert. It looks great. And it's exactly what they did. They copied it the same. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:11 Okay. If we do a sequel, do you want to see them go off world or do you think it should be an Earth-based? Because they're talking about Jared Leto's like, we've got nine colonies, baby. Also, I didn't think that character kind of didn't go anywhere with him. It was just kind of, he just didn't kind of get what he wanted, but we didn't see him again, get his eyes gouged out.
Starting point is 01:17:28 That's true. Maybe that's the sequel. I liked his little drones. I thought that was fun. Yeah, I thought that was cool, yeah. He was like Jesus when he came on set, wasn't it? It was like they said. Yeah, that's right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Blinded himself, which is dumb because he's got drones that could let him see. That's true. I did like the fact that we didn't see what he could see, but the fact there were like 10 drones means there's something weird happening in his head. Yeah, in real life. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But the fact that they didn't show like he had 10 screens in his brain.
Starting point is 01:17:55 Yeah, right. Gotcha. Clearly, he's getting some sort of weird input in his brain and we don't know what it is. I thought that was interesting. They look like floating poos. All right, steady on. Don't you think? No.
Starting point is 01:18:04 You don't think? No, not really. Okay. I steady on. Don't you think? No. You don't think? No, not really. Okay. I like the noise they made. Yeah. No. They had an actual noise, which I liked. Flush.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Just out of toilet flush noise. Yeah. So do you want to see a sequel? I would like to see a sequel. And yeah, maybe Offworld. Sooner rather than later or later rather than sooner? Sooner rather than later. Okay, then.
Starting point is 01:18:23 I'll make some calls to my friend barry see if you would go to the screening with us when when it happens okay cool it's nice to bring friends okay if we could go me you barry yep in the seats you don't want to sit next to barry no because i'm the lynchpin between you guys i guess so yeah yeah yeah okay okay good got some listener reviews mason hello Hello. This is from Tom Murray. A lot of people are also not impressed with this at all. Yeah, that's fair. Which I can understand because it's very long.
Starting point is 01:18:51 Yep. It says, Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. Pretty good movie. Felt the urge to shout Blade Runner. Runner. A lot though. Giuseppe said,
Starting point is 01:19:02 Blade Runner 2049 was aggressively just a movie brackets looked really good then hair dye story reminder BT dubs okay I'll talk about the end alright
Starting point is 01:19:11 Ezra Alexander says just saw Blade Runner 2049 a bit disappointed not a lot of decked and the story seemed a bit shite blind leto equals
Starting point is 01:19:20 poo emoji hello and Chris says Blade Runner 2049 was great one of my favourite movies loved how instead of silence they just had blaring horns
Starting point is 01:19:28 good stuff I think that's everything Mason cool anything else you want to add? nah that'll do it good excellent nice it's nice to return to the world
Starting point is 01:19:40 of Blade Runner and if this podcast is still going in 30 years 30 plus years we'll come back and we'll re-Blade Runner nice to return to the world of Blade Runner and if this podcast is still going in 30 years. 30 years. 30 plus years. We'll come back and we'll re-Blade Runner. Nice.
Starting point is 01:19:49 God, we'll be so old, Mason. One of us will definitely be dead. Nah. Hopefully it's you. Oh, what? Nah. No, I think the opposite. If we're going to have to decide
Starting point is 01:19:58 which one of us wants to be dead. Nah. All right, here we go. All right. Oh, yeah, it's what we're reading, what we're going to read That's our famous segment That's right, yeah I'm doing the theme What are we reading today?
Starting point is 01:20:18 That theme song's pretty good, isn't it? I love it You never hear it No, I don't It's true, I don't hear it What have you been reading or watching? There's a Netflix Stephen King movie called Gerald's Game. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:30 It's really great. There you go. It's got Carla... Delevingne? No, the one from Watchmen. Cugino. Yeah. Cugino.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Watchmen? Yeah, and Sin City. Yeah, no, it's okay. It's basically... That's more you probably want to know. I really liked it. I'd like to know slightly more. Okay, sure. No, I don't want to hear any more. It's basically, that's more you probably want to know. I really liked It. I'd like to know slightly more. Okay, sure.
Starting point is 01:20:47 No, I don't want to hear any more. It's a horror thriller. Okay, is it made for Netflix? Yes, but it's really next level stuff. Netflix is really trying to, they're really on some sort of scattergun approach, in my opinion, right now. Well, they're losing Marvel and Star Wars and everything,
Starting point is 01:21:00 so they're just doing everything, aren't they? Because initially it was like, okay, we're just gonna do premium stuff guess what guys we're bringing back Arrested Development guess what
Starting point is 01:21:09 you know here's some now it's just it can be anything it can be a Stephen King property it can be a weird like Ashton Kutcher the farm
Starting point is 01:21:16 the farm it can be some I'm flicking through the other days it's just weird knockoffs of other shows yeah right like
Starting point is 01:21:23 yeah a lot of stand up comedy that I get recommended that I never watch really but then stuff that But it's just weird knockoffs of other shows. Yeah, right, yeah. Like, yeah. A lot of stand-up comedy that I get recommended that I never watch. Oh, really? But then stuff that, no, but it's like, do you like country and western stand-up comedy? That's true. I do not. Absolutely do not.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Yeah. But yeah, it's good. If you liked it and you're looking for another great Stephen King adaptation. Running Man. Running Man, obviously. Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yes, that's a good one. The Langoliers.
Starting point is 01:21:47 Have you watched The Mist, the TV series? No, I've heard it's fine. Yeah, I've also heard it's fine. I'm against that whole thing. Okay, good. I don't want to think about it. Sometimes I just find myself thinking about the ending of the movie. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:21:58 I like it. Is that why you don't want to have kids? Because I'd invariably have to shoot them? Yes. I guess so. But no, also, if you didn't think it was scary enough yeah this has got some oh really is this based on a stephen king novel yes and it's not a very good novel it's one of these okay novels at least at least yeah okay the other thing i'm doing i'm playing star wars battlefront 2 beta oh yeah i saw you saw a bit of
Starting point is 01:22:23 that when you came in it's It's a lot of fun. I'm bad at it. I watched you play it like a bored girlfriend. Just sit there and be like, hey, babe, check this out. Hey, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:34 We've got three killstreak. Yeah, look at me. No, I really like it as someone... Actually, full disclosure, it looks like I'm going to be doing some videos for it as well. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:42 Some promo stuff. There's a very slim chance that if I say this, it's probably not going to happen now that I might be going over to play videos for it as well. Oh, yeah. Some promo stuff. There's a very slim chance, and if I say this, it's probably not going to happen now, that I might be going over to play it in a few weeks. To America specifically. Back to LA, yeah. Okay, wow.
Starting point is 01:22:51 So that probably now won't happen now that I've said that. Nice. Which is normally the way. Shout outs to WhiteShack94, your nemesis on the game who was constantly killing you. Blitzed me, Mason. Every time. I got WhiteShack a few times.
Starting point is 01:23:03 That's true. But he got so many slam dunks on me. Or she. Or she. It was a female character. It was a female avatar, wasn't it? Yeah, that's true. But no, look, it's, look, I'm okay in the multiplayer.
Starting point is 01:23:12 I've definitely gotten better, but I'm really looking forward to single player stuff. Yeah, yeah. Because the first one, the single player was non-existent. And the reason I didn't buy it was for that alone. It was kind of like a quarter of a game. Yeah, right. By all accounts, and from what I've seen, this looks like more than that. That's true.
Starting point is 01:23:27 And if it's not after I've done the paid stuff or even that same week, I'll just tell everybody the case. What are you watching or doing, Mason? Well, first of all, I still have the last episode of Rick and Morty to go. Oh, savoring. I don't know why I'm just holding onto it.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Yeah. A lot of people have said this. It's got an amazing death in it. Really? Maybe not somebody you'd know, but just an amazing... You'll see it. got an amazing death in it or really maybe not somebody you'd know but just an amazing you'll say it all right when it happens yeah yeah i don't know a lot of people have been saying that this this season isn't as funny because of all the women writers right isn't that what oh boy but it's more it's as interesting i don't know if it's less funny but it's certainly
Starting point is 01:23:59 i didn't i don't it doesn't strike me as less funny but it's certainly as interesting fans are getting more and more fickle about Rick and Morty. I say, right. There was such a long wait. Well, it is for very smart people. You have to have at least a bachelor's degree. You don't want to be a bloody Jerry about it, do you, Mason? That's true.
Starting point is 01:24:11 You don't want to be a Jerry. Andrew Levin's got into that Facebook group exclusively for people who relate to Rick. Yeah, for people who think they're super genius Ricks, and they're constantly being foiled by Jerrys or whatever it is. genius ricks and they're constantly being foiled by jerry's or whatever it is there it's a it's a relationship where they're like they're they're they're the superior being yeah they're always like name a time when you when a woman was taken from you by a jerry or whatever that's weird because because that's rick's daughter yeah well that situation's weird anyway he kept he kept like i'm trying to bring up some of his tweets one time
Starting point is 01:24:45 he went somebody put up a poll or something that it said hey do you think rick's a vegan you know because he's so above above it all or whatever and levens was like yeah sure he's a vegan just like all of us here oh wait i meant virgin that's pretty funny that's some good work good work levens if you're listening. And he got banned. Yeah, he got banned. Yeah, exactly. He kept trying. That was his goal. Yeah, he kept going.
Starting point is 01:25:09 He did like 10 or so before he got banned. Yeah, he's good. That guy's good. Listen to his podcast, Serious Issues, by Hayfam. And Hayfam, yeah. But also, speaking of Serious Issues comic book podcast, I read this week, you know, there's Dynamite Comics do that James Bond. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:24 They do it. Varga, they started with. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of James Bond series. There's ones by Warren Ellis, there's Dynamite Comics do that James Bond. Yeah, yeah. They do it. Varga, they started it. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of James Bond series. There's ones by Warren Ellis and there's been some other ones. They're all great. Right.
Starting point is 01:25:31 They're set in the book continuity, not in the movie continuity. Okay. But they're all really good. Yeah, yeah. And I read recently that the next guy to do it is a guy called,
Starting point is 01:25:41 hang on, I'll get his bloody name, Alice Cott. He's from from the czech republic oh um he's going to do the next bond series and apparently he prior to this he did a series called zero what's okay it's like uh it's like so i download the first trade and i'm a couple of pages into it and it's sort of like uh it's a it's like a super spy plus sci-fi series from a couple of years ago and it looks real nice.
Starting point is 01:26:09 It looks primo. How many percento would you give it? Well, I'm very, I'm only a few pages in, but a hundred percento. You're a real Jerry Mason. You should have used all your analytical skills. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:26:19 I should have been more analytical. Realistically, I'm probably a Jerry. Oh yeah, we're all Jerrys. Absolutely, yeah. We're either Jerrys or Mortys. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like super spy plus sci-fi.
Starting point is 01:26:32 It's a little bit, it's pretty kind of, pretty super violent, but not like, it's not super violent for no reason. It's like, it's super violent in the context of the world. And it's kind of like a guy who was raised to be a killer and sort of rediscovering his humanity kind of thing. Okay. So it's,
Starting point is 01:26:49 it's, it's, and it's a different artist, every issue, which is fun, but it's the same, it's the same color as Geordie Belair, who also did moon night and a whole bunch of stuff.
Starting point is 01:26:57 Sometimes that can be jarring, but this place, it seems to work. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I'm not losing track or anything. So that's,
Starting point is 01:27:03 that's pretty good. Anyway, that's a buddy having a good old time so that's pretty good. Anyway, that's a bloody... Having a good old time with that, so hopefully we'll enjoy that. A lot of everybody, I was like, should I get into this? And everybody's like, the ending's no good. It's great up until the ending, so I'm crossing my fingers,
Starting point is 01:27:17 hoping to be destroyed by the ending. I don't know. Well, at least going in, you know that. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Oh, hang on. Yes, Greg? Sorry, James. Sorry, Mr. Hamlet. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Oh, hang on. Yes, Greg? Sorry, James.
Starting point is 01:27:25 Sorry, Mr. Hanlon. Hi, Claire. Can you introduce us about the event? We already have. It's already been discussed. Oh, no. Have you also said about the promo code? Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:27:35 All right. I'll edit this in earlier. Okay. What's the promo code? So, it's 15% off. Right. Podcast dog is the code. All one word?
Starting point is 01:27:45 All one word. Okay. I dog is the code. All one word? All one word. Okay. I'll edit this in earlier as well. So this is going to be a bit of a bloody time jump, Mason, if you don't mind. Oh, are we putting this in? Yeah, but this will also stay in. Okay, great. So can people hear Claire?
Starting point is 01:27:56 Yes. 15% off podcast dog. If you want cheap tickets, you want some cheap tickies. All right. Yeah, for some cheapos. Done it. Nice. Cheapos. Okay want some cheap tickies. All right. Yeah, for some cheapos. Done it. Nice. For some cheapos.
Starting point is 01:28:06 Okay. Sorry to interrupt those. I think the dog wants to leave if you can take the dog. How's the face, Claire? The face is getting better. Yeah, it looks great. For those who can't hear, Claire's face is getting better. It's getting better.
Starting point is 01:28:18 Mainly my teeth now are the real issue. Oh, sure. Yeah. Well, other than that and the lisp, but I'll be all right. You can barely notice it. I notice. I met your friend, Vicky. Oh, sure. You can barely notice it. I notice. Oh, yeah, she's great. Did you meet her at the podcast?
Starting point is 01:28:33 I was going to go to that, but then I didn't go to it. That's true. How was that? Tell me afterwards. Yeah, how about you have your private conversation later? Thanks, Greg. Okay, so I'm going to edit this in. Also, you can get a 15% discount if you use the promo code podcastdog.
Starting point is 01:28:54 All one word, presumably, right? Yep. If it's not, I'll link it below. It'll all be there. So even though the tickets are a little bit more expensive, 15% off is quite reasonable. We'd rather sell out, I think. Yeah. Yeah. You mean like do as many advertising spots as possible? That's what I mean. Yeah, good. Excellent. Nice. rather sell out, I think. Yeah. Yeah. You mean, like, do as many advertising spots as possible?
Starting point is 01:29:06 That's what I mean. Yeah, good. Excellent. Nice. I think we're past that. Yeah. Mason, good. Do the lettuce thing.
Starting point is 01:29:11 I will. The classic one was, Lettuce, oh lettuce, we love you. Some lettuce, they're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do lettuce. Are you wearing a retainer? What?
Starting point is 01:29:26 No. I've just got excellent teeth. I was eating this. Oh, I see. Right, right, right. Okay. I was chewing on this memory card case. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:32 If you want to reach the show, you can obviously email Mason, obviously. If you have any questions like, James, are you wearing a retainer right now? Correct. I've never had a retainer or a braces. I did actually have a mouth guard to stop me grinding my teeth when I was a younger man. And then I stopped wearing it. There you go.
Starting point is 01:29:48 I should probably keep wearing it. No, it's too late now. It was for sleep. Who knows if you grind your teeth in your sleep? It's true. Do I? Ah, there's no way I would know. Well, if you got off the bunk bed and just gave it a listen.
Starting point is 01:30:00 Okay, that's true. I will. Ah, yeah. So hashtag weekly planet pod on Twitter to reach us on Twitter. Weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com if you want to send us a letter. Correct. As Dara has done. Yeah, I know Dara.
Starting point is 01:30:10 There you go. Well, she has sent us a letter. She wants to know, she's from Ireland. Apparently, Johnny Depp referred to a town in Ireland, the town of Limerick in Ireland, he referred to it as Stab City. I don't know, I don't have any context in Ireland, he referred to it as Stab City. I don't know. I don't have any context for this. Is he filming something in Stab City?
Starting point is 01:30:29 I don't know. Is it Stab City? Look, I don't know. Could you look up Limerick and Stabbings? Just see what happens. Anyway, so an Irish politician called Willie O'Day has taken offence to it and he's demanded that he apologises. Because if you recall, this is not the first time Johnny Depp
Starting point is 01:30:49 has gotten into trouble with... Oh, he's a hot topic, isn't he? With government... It was a real Jared Leto. Yeah, exactly. If you recall, Johnny Depp and his then wife... Amber Heard? Amber Heard flew into Australia with their two dogs, Pistol and Boo.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Yeah. And our Deputy Prime Minister, Barnaby Joyce, was upset by that. Yes. And said that they were undermining Australia's quarantine and biosecurity laws. And so they had to make a very, very unenthusiastic apology video, if you recall. I do. I don't think he meant that. Yeah, no, absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:31:27 But what I... Barnaby Joyce news. Yes. In recent Barnaby Joyce news. Oh, here we go. Well, no, in political news in Australia. So it turns out you can't be a dual citizen. If you're in Australia, you're a dual citizen.
Starting point is 01:31:39 You can't hold a political office. No. It's against the rules for some reason. Correct. But like in Australia recently, one of our politicians in our Green Party discovered that they were born in New Zealand and then immediately moved to Australia.
Starting point is 01:31:53 So technically they were a dual citizen. They couldn't be a politician. They were like, listen, I've learned this and I've got to step down. So sorry, guys. It's been good, but you know. Yeah. And then another Greens politician discovered it as well.
Starting point is 01:32:04 I guess she was... What? All these foreigners sneaking into our country at birth? Sorry, guys, it's been good, but, you know. Yeah. And then another Greens politician discovered it as well. I guess she was... What? All these foreigners sneaking into our country at birth? And then immediately old mate Barnaby Joyce was like, well, well, well, well, well, look, if you can't, if you can't, if you bloody, you wouldn't drive without a driver's licence and then be like, oh, I didn't know. Ignorance is no excuse.
Starting point is 01:32:24 If you can't sort out your bloody domestic, bloody citizenship issues, something as basic as that, you shouldn't have a political office. I'm bloody glad they're gone. A solid point from a man who knows what he's talking about. And then two minutes later it turns out he's also a dual citizen. And then he's like, well, I'm not stepping down. What a dog.
Starting point is 01:32:42 I hate that guy. I hate all our politicians. Everybody hates Barnaby. Yeah, same. Who do you vote for, Mason? I mean, what do you do? I don't know. Stap it down What a dog I hate that guy I hate all our politicians Everybody hates Barnaby Yeah same Yeah Who do you vote for Mason? I mean what do you do? I don't know
Starting point is 01:32:49 Just fuck with City Yeah great stuff Anyway Anyway Dara says By the way he's right Limerick is stabbed Oh it is good
Starting point is 01:32:57 Because actually There's the Limerick feud Which is on the top result For Limerick stabbings Which is between rival gangs Update from May 24th It's the next article Man dies following stabbing which is on the top result for Limerick stabbings, which is between rival gangs. Update from May 24th. It's the next article. Man dies following stabbing in Limerick City Centre.
Starting point is 01:33:11 Wow. Under that, from August, man arrested after three stabbed in Limerick pub. Jesus. Under that, 1998, Limerick brackets, Stab City no less, rebounds. That'll probably do it. That's from 1998.
Starting point is 01:33:23 It says Limerick Stab City rebounds. Doesn Rebounds. That'll probably do it. That's from 1998. It says, Libric Stab City Rebounds. Doesn't sound like they rebounded. Unless a rebound means just more stabbings. Great. Stab City sounds fantastic. We should visit there. Australia's more glass city, isn't it? Glass as in when you get hit in the head with a glass.
Starting point is 01:33:38 A lot of people have asked us what being glass means. Apparently, we mentioned a lot on the show. Yeah, because when I was in Vegas, a guy I was with got glassed, as in hit in the head with a bottle. Yeah. Or a glass.
Starting point is 01:33:47 I guess you could call it being bottled. You could call it being bottled, yeah. Anyway, that's a horrific injury. If you've ever seen that, the aftermath of one of those. Dara says she could be the official friend of the show or the podcast. Absolutely, you may. You definitely can. Official friend of the podcast from Stab City.
Starting point is 01:34:01 Stab City. You better believe it. Stab, Stab City. Oh, yeah. what do you got i've got a tweet from liam chattertron chatter nice it's not his name but he's is he the chatterbot or the chattertron yeah chattertron a lot of recurring letter uh names here hashtag weekly planet pod how do you think soups will come back in justice league if batman said he'll come makes me think he's done a bit of grave robbing what do you think unless once again that's not superman yeah you think it's wonder woman what if it's green lantern but he's wearing a cape
Starting point is 01:34:36 what if he's wearing that i look i somebody pointed out i think to me that maybe it's the original green land alan scland Alan Scott who wears a tremendously bad costume that is green purple and red and it's got a cape it's one of my faves I 100% think
Starting point is 01:34:52 it's Superman oh it's totally Superman yeah but how do you think he's going to come back like he did in the Fortress of Solitude where his body
Starting point is 01:34:58 was stolen from his grave by robots by robots and then whatever he doesn't even have a Fortress of Solitude it's lying in the middle of Metropolis
Starting point is 01:35:04 oh yeah it is too isn't it if that even is his fortress of solitude well maybe that's i potentially they could do like that sinks into the earth and they're like where did it go it's whatever and it's you know yeah it's off makes its way back to the arctic or something sure yeah that makes sense and it takes his body with it i don't know something like that cool yeah but i think or they could it could just be just a recharge situation yeah sure where he's just you the Arctic or something. Sure, yeah. That makes sense. And it takes his body with it. I don't know, something like that. Yeah, cool. But I think, or it could just be just a recharge situation. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:35:28 Where he's just, you know, he's dead for a certain amount of time. Why'd they kill him in his second outing? It's ridiculous. Why do we keep
Starting point is 01:35:34 coming back to this? I'll be so happy when this franchise is gone. Ah, Mason. God. No, this has been going since 1989. It's not going to stop now.
Starting point is 01:35:42 Yeah, that's true. You're right. Yeah. God. Yeah, I know. It didn't feel right. And now he's unkillable. Yes, that's true. You're right. Yeah. God. Yeah, I know. It didn't feel like it. And now he's unkillable. Yes, because
Starting point is 01:35:47 and they've already done Death of Superman. Yeah, great. In the second movie that's not a Superman film. Terrific. It's mostly a Batman film. Anyway, do you have any thoughts
Starting point is 01:35:55 on how he's going to come back? I think they're going to still do Black Suit. I think they've been hiding it. There's been toys that allude to it but you never know because toys don't necessarily mean anything.
Starting point is 01:36:05 That's true. They've had Lex Luthor power suits from Batman, Superman, and a bunch of stuff. Maybe they've all been a ruse. Yeah. So that when he does come back, Black Suit. Good. Yeah, nice.
Starting point is 01:36:15 I hope so. Last tweet, Mason. Oh, was that whole thing not the mechanism by which he returns, but what is he going to be wearing when he comes back? Yeah, what's he going to be wearing? No, it said how will he come back? That's the question. Oh, okay, right.
Starting point is 01:36:27 Yeah. The Chattertron 2000 always brings up great conversation, doesn't he? I agree. He's one of the best. He's built for it. This is from The Detective Marvel. Hashtag weekly planet pod.
Starting point is 01:36:37 Do you think Star Wars will be the highest grossing of 2017? Because Civil War was actually the highest of 2016. Oh. That's interesting. I don't know what the highest grossing film so far is. It's probably... Should we look it up? Is there a Fast of 2016 that's interesting i don't know what the highest grossing film so far is it's probably should we look it up is there a fast and furious film i don't know highest i don't think it will i don't think it'll be as um as big as the last one because you can't force awakens twice you know what i mean we hadn't the people waited 30 years
Starting point is 01:36:59 for a sequel to the return of the jedi that's true, yeah. Yeah, that was madness. Yeah, here we go. The air was electric. The air was electric, Mason. On Force Awakens Day. Yeah, not literally. Oh, Beauty and the Beast. Yeah, that makes sense. Oh, yeah, $950 million. Despicable May made $1 billion.
Starting point is 01:37:14 Of course it did. Apparently. I don't know when they came out, though. Despicable May 3? Yes. I've just got an American box off. This says Transformers The Last Knight, $1.2 billion. God fucking damn it.
Starting point is 01:37:25 That cannot be right. No, it did do well. It just didn't do as well as the other ones. Yeah, I don't think... Look, if anything this year is going to do as well as that, it's got to be Star Wars, right? Because it's a movie people actually want to see as opposed to Transformers,
Starting point is 01:37:39 which we're all begrudgingly going to. Bearing in mind, though, between now and then, we've got both Justice League and Thor Ragnarok. Yep. So I think it's, it's very possible that one of those, uh, does better.
Starting point is 01:37:53 Maybe not justice league because there's, unless it's really good because of the kind of, I don't think Thor Ragnarok has the crossover appeal. No, I think you're probably right. Cause they're looking at here. Guardians did 863 million. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:04 Uh, I think, I think we'll probably do, Guardians did 863 million. Yeah. I think it will probably do better than Guardians 2. Really? Okay. Yeah, because I think people love the Hulk
Starting point is 01:38:10 and it looks fun and funny. But I don't think people love Thor. I think people do love Thor. Alright. I think in his own solo movies, no,
Starting point is 01:38:17 but I think in this environment I think people will love Thor. Okay. Yeah, fair enough. But look at even Spider-Man. Spider-Man didn't make a billion. So,
Starting point is 01:38:25 who knows? Who knows which way? So, yeah, the top three were Beauty and the Beast, Fate and the Fate of the fair enough. But look at even Spider-Man. Spider-Man didn't make a billion. So who knows? Who knows which way? So yeah, the top three were Beauty and the Beast, Fate and the Fate of the Furious. I was going to say, was there a Fast and Furious movie this year? Apparently there was. Despicable Me 3. Yes. So yeah. Nice.
Starting point is 01:38:35 Which I did not see. Remember when you said Beauty and the Beast wasn't going to make a billion dollars? Remember you said that? It says $950 million. You son of a... Not in here. Worldwide, 1.2. I said domestically. You did not say that. It says $950 million. You son of a... Not in here. Worldwide, 1.2. I said domestically.
Starting point is 01:38:47 You did not say that. Localized to this room. I didn't buy a ticket. Well, I did. No, I didn't actually. That's right. Domestic, localized to this room box office, $0. There you go.
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Starting point is 01:39:31 In what context are eggs fun, James? You can eat them. You can throw them. That's not fun. Eggs. Look, all right. All right. Hang on.
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