The Weekly Planet - 209 Stranger Things Season 2 & Shazam Casting
Episode Date: October 30, 2017It’s the spookiest time of the year isn’t it? Unless you count bloody tax season ZING.Yeah but seriously we get into Stranger Things Season 2, casting for Captain Marvel, so much reboot/sequel new...s, X-23 getting her own film, a Deathstroke solo movie plus good/bad/neutral news for Justice League. Thanks for listening!Win A Copy Of Star Wars Battlefront 2 Vid: https://t.co/lHyDDfBXmcSuicide Squad Commentary: patreon.com/mrsundaymovies. https://goo.gl/7n8F1XNew T-Shirts: https://www.teepublic.com/user/mrsundaymovies4:11 Shazam has been cast...ed10:13 Justice League opening problems/not problems15:25 Captain Marvel casting19:18 Reboot/Sequel news for everything30:26 Contra TV Show and Movie32:57 X-23 film34:25 Justin Lin directing FF 9/1035:10 Kingpin return to Daredevil35:52 Deathstroke solo movie38:00 Venom movie update41:31 Strangers Things S2 non spoilers67:04 Strangers Things S2 spoilers1:09:52 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:18:19 Letters It’s Time For Letters Buy Shazam on Amazon: https://amzn.to/2IwsEWzThe Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGH Find out T-Shirts here: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet,
where we talk movies and comics and TV shows.
My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday.
With me is always my co-host, Nick Mason.
I'm here.
Yeah, you are.
We're going to talk TV this week.
Yeah, we are talking.
TV of a source.
Oh, mate.
I mean, I don't even bloody own a TV.
I don't have to plug in the air.
I don't plug that in.
You know what I mean?
The lines of media are blurring as well.
Remember when Shadows of the Empire was a book and a comic and a video game?
Video game, yep.
It wasn't a TV, though, was it?
That's right, no.
And an endless runner.
Remember when Shadows of the no and an endless runner and what
shadows the empire was an endless runner man i was just have you i was thinking about this
other day when was the last time you downloaded a mobile game because i find that that apps are
just they're just trash just the mcdonald's monopoly account is a okay i should say yeah
in terms of games you're like like i'll to look. Because everything's either an endless runner
or it's fleecing you for coins.
All right.
You know what I mean?
Look.
I think the last one for me was Mario Run.
Look, the last app I downloaded was an invoicing app
for this podcast.
But look, I'm still young and cool.
Okay.
So you don't know.
I mean, just in terms of the last game.
The last thing I have on here
prior to that and Netflix
is this thing.
I was just looking at my phone
and there's just this thing.
It's just called Find Friends.
And I don't recall downloading it.
I don't know if it comes with the iPhone.
I don't think it does.
Seems like something you downloaded.
Let me check if I've got it.
It's just, I guess for,
like, I guess if your other friends have it, you can find them on like your GPS, but I have no memory of downloading this. I don't think I've got it. It's just, I guess, if your other friends have it,
you can find them on your GPS.
But I have no memory of downloading this.
I don't have it.
Why would I have it?
You've clearly gotten lonely in the middle of the night.
Where are my friends?
Literally, where are my friends?
That's weird, right?
It is a bit.
Actually, I downloaded the Stranger Things mobile game
because I'm like, I'll give this a go
because we might do it for Caravanavan of garbage if it's terrible i never ended up
playing it but apparently it's fine so i just is it an endless runner no it's not it's like
a zelda kind of top down oh that's fun yeah eight bit style yeah something like that i didn't
actually play it because you know how we did the it game for it which is which was an endless runner
yeah yeah yeah so no i didn't we didn't
where are my friends you might ask they're on the planet broadcasting facebook group oh very good
there we go it's good we're up to like 1500 members which is pretty wild not 1501 because
i'm not on it yet no if you could but i will okay good there's some great stuff in there there's
some great there's some art there's some bloody uh if you want to know where's a good place to
jump in on like different podcasts like episodes yeah just just there's threads art. There's some bloody, if you want to know where's a good place to jump in on like different
podcasts, like episodes.
Yeah.
Just, just there's threads on that.
There's all kinds of threads.
So you go in, you tap in.
There's memes about you dyeing your hair.
Hey, that didn't happen.
Like the vain goat man you are.
It wasn't a dye.
We talked about this.
It was a rejuvenation shampoo that slowly dyes, I mean, rejuvenates your hair over a
period of time.
Okay.
God.
Got my haircut the other day.
It's all grey underneath.
Absolutely it is.
They're like, Mr. Sunday, this is the greyest hair I've ever seen.
Somehow, whatever you put in your hair, not a dye,
but some sort of rejuvenation serum,
has leached all the colour out of all your remaining hair.
I feel like I could rob a bank, get a haircut, come out,
and they'd be like, well, that's clearly not him.
No.
That's somebody's dad.
That's right.
That man doesn't look spry enough to rob a bank.
What were we talking about?
I've forgotten.
I know.
We should maybe start the regular show, I guess.
They've cast Shazam.
They have.
I mean, it was coming up, wasn't it?
Yeah.
They started filming soon, so they eventually got around to it.
What's his name again?
Zach Levy or Zachary Levy. what's he what's he been in he's uh he's the the robin hood warriors
three guy oh he is too yeah he's in this in the last two thaws not the first thaw yeah that's
right because they recast him and nobody noticed yes chuck he's chuck not good luck chuck your
favorite film correct he's chuck from the TV show Chuck.
There you go.
Because on that he's a nerdy pocket protector guy
who accidentally has CIA secrets in his brain.
Probably.
I haven't seen it.
Interesting transformation.
He's Flynn Rider in Tangled,
which is a better movie than Frozen,
if you don't mind me saying so.
How dare you haven't seen them.
Well, it's true, Mason.
I have seen a mock-up of this guy as Shazam.
Looks great.
Yeah, he does, yeah.
And people are like, he's not big enough.
Well, he's like Jim Halpert size.
He'll work out a bit.
It'll be fine.
I mean, there are, you know, Chris Hemsworth isn't always enormous.
Well, Chris Hemsworth was pretty rake thin before he did Thor.
Yeah, if you look at him from like Home and Away days
or Dancing with the stars days uh-huh
yeah he wasn't he wasn't the man that you know now that's true yeah that you personally know
now the question being yeah and we actually discussed this in the planet broadcasting
facebook group earlier this week no no i've got heaps of friends on there um uh who do you cast
as the kid who do you cast as billy batson the kid? Yeah, that's tough, man. A lot of people are saying, is it Finn Wolf?
What's his name?
Finn Wolfhard?
From Stranger Things.
From Stranger Things, yeah.
Which one's he again?
He is...
Is he Will?
No, he's Mike, I think.
I'd have to check.
I don't know.
If he's Will, they should cast him.
I don't think they should.
The kid with the bowl cut?
No, I don't like him.
He's got the best acting.
No, that's awful.
What my suggestion was, and they won't do this,
but I think they should...
Because I guess the idea behind Shazam and Captain Marvel
is he's the purest superhero kind of thing, you know,
because he's...
You know, the superhero version of him is kind of an ideal.
He's not really a guy.
He's just kind of this...
Imagine the most heroic man and he's the most noble
and what have you.
He's like cartoon Superman. Right, yeah. So he should be the most purest whatever and the most heroic man and he's the most noble and what have you. He's like cartoon Superman.
Right, yeah.
So he should be the most purest whatever and the most innocent kid.
But I think they should cast a grown-up as Billy Batson.
Why?
Well, they should because the premise of this particular-
You're an idiot.
Yeah, I know I'm an idiot, but hear me out.
I won't.
All right, this podcast is over.
No, because this DC universe is 20 years on
yeah it's been happening for 20 years so and like batman's been fighting crime for 20 years so
what you do is you say okay he was a kid 20 years ago yeah but 15 years but there was no like we've
seen superman there was nothing like that when he showed up people were like what the fuck but also
yeah but i but also this universe is a little bit inconsistent in that
regard nice like when superman shows up they're like what's going on this has never happened
before and then two movies later we're like everybody's got a magic sword steal your soul
everybody's a crocodile yeah i understand that but like a superman figure turning up 20 years
in the past would not go unnoticed unless Unless he's only doing magic stuff. Unless he's only doing magic stuff. Unless he's only off in magic realms.
Yeah.
See, here's my feeling.
He shows up like maybe not 20, but maybe 15 years ago.
Yeah.
He does some superhero stuff.
He does it under the radar.
Then maybe Robin is killed.
Yeah.
Who was his friend.
Right.
And then maybe he's like, I'm getting out of this business.
And then he leaves.
He tries to like make a normal life for himself.
Yeah.
And he becomes like, maybe he's an actor who's older
than the guy playing Shazam.
Well, they could just cast him if that's the way you're going to do it
because that's what they did in Kingdom Come.
That's what I'm thinking, yeah.
Billy Batson was the same.
They looked the same.
They looked the same, yeah, right.
That's who we grew up into.
Anyway, I'm thinking Macaulay Culkin.
But also, what I think would work is because if you get a former child star,
because then it's like, oh, remember being young?
Yeah, right. It's like faded youth and, oh, you know. Like a former child star. Yeah. Because then it's like, oh, remember being young? Yeah, right.
It's like faded youth and, oh, you know.
Like a Sean Astin.
Like a fallen star, like a Sean Astin.
Okay.
He's not a fallen star.
He's doing all right.
He's doing all right.
What about Joshua Jackson?
Oh, yeah, he'd be good.
Pacey from Bloody Dawson's Creek.
Because you remember him young.
Pacey from Mighty Ducks, Mason.
Sorry.
Is his name Pacey in that?
Sure.
Yeah, sure enough.
I'll be honest, saying Pacey was a shot in the dark there.
I wasn't 100% sure that was his name.
It was either that or Joey.
Joey, exactly.
But yeah, because then you're like, well, he's, you know, we remember him young and
now here he is old and burnt out kind of thing.
Look, I don't disagree with you that that's a direction they should take.
I don't think they will though.
No, I don't think they will because I think they want to look at this superhero as kind
of like this, like you said, this being of pure good and innocence.
Yeah, yeah.
And I think, and you rob the kind of fun that they're probably going to put into this movie by he's a broken down middle-aged man.
Yeah.
So I think the direction they want to do, they want to do fun and light.
Yeah.
And it's a kid.
Imagine if a kid was Superman, which is essentially the direction they're going to go in.
And then you stand him next to this version of Superman.
And I think that's interesting, though, because the version that we've got,
which I don't love, that's an interesting contrast to have this kid
who looks up to, you know, is literally this version of Superman,
which I thought we'd initially be getting.
See, that's interesting, because if it's a kid now,
and he imagines himself as a superhero,
he wouldn't imagine himself as super cartoony Shazam.
He'd imagine himself as a version of the Superman we have.
But I'm not even sure how society perceives Superman in the super.
Yeah, we don't really know.
So it's kind of unclear.
So I think you are correct in that they will cast,
they'll try and make him more fun and innocent.
But I think given how correct in that they will cast, they'll try and make him more fun and innocent.
But I think given how this universe operates,
I think they should go with the burnout grown-up.
I think there's enough burnout grown-ups.
Yeah, I know.
Everybody's a burnout grown-up in this universe.
Aquaman, he's not even king.
But also I figure if they're going to reboot this universe in the next five years anyway, it doesn't matter.
Doesn't really matter.
Maybe they will.
Just go all in, as they say.
Have you seen the billboards?
All in, yeah.
They're kind of fun.
They've released some pretty good posters, Mason.
But there's giant ones in Melbourne that say Melbourne is all in.
I don't know if Melbourne's all in.
Yeah, for all in, to be honest with you.
Well, do you want to talk numbers for Justice League?
Yeah.
It's tracking an opening weekend in the US of, what do we got here,
between $110 to $120 million.
How do we get those figures again?
Is that advance ticket sales?
Advance ticket sales is just kind of projections and whatnot.
And probably other things.
I don't know how it works exactly.
Also, it's often wrong.
So it doesn't mean anything.
People are saying, some people are like-
Nobody's going to shoot low, are they?
Like their decent Warner Brothers marketing team, they're going to go to the number crunches and go, hey guys, what are we going to shoot low, are they? Like a decent Warner Brothers marketing team,
they're going to go to the number crunches and go,
hey, guys, what are we going to do on this?
Oh, $10 million.
Oh, you're all fired then.
You didn't do a very good job.
Huh, interesting.
You're all fired.
Out you get.
So...
$500 billion?
Oh, you all get raises.
Let's just make one movie ever.
But people are saying it could be a bit of a
disappointment because batman v superman did 166 but then you also got to look at it wonder woman
was projected to do like between like 50 and 60 maybe and that did 100 yeah right so i think it
it greatly depends on how good it actually is i think it'll it'll easily crack 100 like good or
bad but if it's good it could go really high.
And what they still don't seem to be factoring in correctly
is that now feedback is instant.
Like, as soon as you...
Even while people are in the movie,
they can be texting or tweeting going,
yeah, this movie sucks or this movie's great.
And then, you know...
All your friends are down.
All your friends.
Melbourne's all in.
I'm loading my Find Friends app.
I'm finding my friends. I'm saying, Find Friends app. I'm finding my friends.
I'm saying, get here.
Get in this cinema right now.
I realise we're 90 minutes into the movie, but get in here.
Buy a ticket.
Treat yourself.
The other thing that came up about Justice League,
which had people bloody spitting in their bloody graves,
if they were in their graves.
Spitting chips.
I thought you were going to say.
Spitting chips into their graves.
Yeah.
Is that the runtime has been revealed and it's only 119 minutes.
Oh, thank God.
I know.
It was a minute shy of two hours.
And people are saying, well, Man of Steel was 143.
Batman v Superman was 151.
Jesus.
Suicide Squad was 123.
Wonder Woman was 141.
So this is the shortest.
Like the next shortest is Suicide Squad
but everything else
is like over 140
I think it's fine
if it's going to be
two hours
I mean it's kind of
surprising that the
Justice League movie
would be the shortest
since it's got the
most characters
but if this is the
tightest version of
that film
great
people are also
saying though
that the reason
it's short
is because
it's a mess
so they're just
trying to salvage it get as many bums on seats as you can.
If your movie's two hours as opposed to two hours and 30.
Get more sessions in at the cinema.
Get more sessions in, exactly.
So it could mean any number of things.
Sure could.
It could be good, it could be bad, it could mean nothing.
In many ways, speculating about it on any kind of medium is a waste of time.
Correct.
And the other thing they mentioned is that the embargo is,
by the way, we missed out on tickets.
I didn't get them in time.
Oh, no.
We'll have to buy.
Oh, no.
So we're going to have to go to the regular cinema like plebs.
Wait, do Warner Brothers hate you?
I can't remember.
No, I think they're okay with me.
I don't know.
Which one hates me again?
One of them.
Whoever does Transformers.
Paramount hates me.
Okay, good.
Yeah.
But we might be
able to still still get a ticket because i mean we can purchase tickets like regular i mean like
because it's like the day before yeah but because the reason i like them is because how the mighty
of fall i know well there's less screaming idiots for one that's true but then again i normally see
them during the day so there's less people but also they're always half full like these screens
they're never full the only one that
was close to being full was force awakens and everything so it's we'll probably end up getting
tickets but if not who cares we'll just see the next day but the reason i bring that up is because
it's embargoed until the day before oh yeah that reminds me folks if you also do a podcast and you
want to get some free tickets just email yeah they'll give them to literally anybody like it
doesn't matter yeah we didn't know that for years.
No.
We're like, we'd better build up a massive worldwide audience.
No.
You can have a blog with no followers and you'll get tickets.
It's absolutely fine.
Yeah.
So people are saying, well, it's embargoed to the day before.
That's a big problem.
It could be, but it's also not necessarily.
Wonder Woman was embargoed to the day before.
Then it got good word of mouth, so they moved it up.
Yep.
Things like Star Wars as well get embargoed until the day of.
That's probably more a secrets thing.
So this could also be a secrets thing.
Could be a secrets thing.
Maybe Superman dies again and they don't want it to go down.
That'd be so good.
Yeah.
So I just think it could be bad, but it might not be bad.
It could just be nothing again.
So it just depends.
It could be Superman shows up and he's like,
Am I alive again? I didn't want this want this and he just snaps his own neck he tumbles to the ground let's say you kill a
kryptonian that's right yeah so anyway what do you think of any of any and all of that
do you think good or bad mason or who knows good okay good yeah It's not bad news, but it's not great news. Look, the real danger is if they're like,
listen, the embargo's not till two days after the movie comes out.
Yes.
And then you're like, oh, what?
That is a problem.
Which I think, what did that, was that what they did with Geostar?
Oh, I was kidding.
I don't know.
No, it has happened.
Yeah, often they'll just won't do press screenings.
Yeah, right.
So it'll hit Thursday, Friday, depending when your movies will go out.
Yeah, right. Yeah. Pay for a ticket. Did they do that for Alien Covenant screenings. Yeah, right. So it'll hit Thursday, Friday, depending on when your movies will go out. Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Pay for a ticket.
Did they do that for Alien Covenant?
I think they might have.
Maybe.
I don't know.
Anyway.
Mason, more news.
Oh, yes.
I mean, you know,
this is the news segment of the podcast, isn't it?
You're not wrong.
Ben Mendo Mendelsohn, Australian's own.
Oh, he might be the villain in,
let me remember.
I'm ready.
So it's Mendo.
Yep.
Captain Marvel.
Or Shazam.
Is it?
Is it?
Is it Marvel's Captain Marvel?
It's Marvel's Captain Marvel.
Okay, right, okay.
I remember a thing.
Yeah, you remember a thing.
That's pretty good.
Yeah.
Also, just quickly.
Yes.
Zachary Levy posted a picture on Instagram and he's like,
I'm going to be in the gym forever.
Yeah.
So he'll work out for four months
and he'll look fine.
Oh, they'll CGI it.
It doesn't.
Think of the fatties
who've become buff for movies.
Chris Pratt.
Chris Hemsworth.
Big old fatty.
Nah, no, no.
I think it's just Chris Pratt.
Um,
Wynald Jankovic.
Remember how fat he was
in his fat video clip?
He certainly was.
Seth Rogen for Green Hornet.
Got super trim.
Yep.
Well, he planned to.
He sure did.
He looked okay all the time.
He looked pretty good.
He looked pretty good.
He was swift.
Shallow hell.
Gwyneth Paltrow fluctuated wildly.
Oh, every day.
How did she do it?
I don't know.
Yeah.
So it'll be fine.
What's inside that counts?
Steroids.
Yeah, steroids.
The steroids that are inside are what counts.
Do you think jerry butler
did steroids for 300 the movie 300 look because he definitely did but what do you think how many
of those how many of the spartans in that movie have real abs and how many have cgi there's a
mixture when him does when him have real abs i think you might have a little bit of i mean there's
also some air like some literal airbrush oh i right. But if you see behind the scenes footage, Gerard Butler is next level ripped.
Yeah, right.
And he didn't train with anybody.
He's just like, just tell me.
Look, I'll figure it out on the day.
I'll be there on the day.
I'll be fine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he just turned up enormous.
Wow.
And he's never been that big since.
So I'm just saying.
I'm just saying he's juicing, man.
Imagine if he showed up and he was just beer gut.
Well, that's what happened with Hugh Jackman
in the first Wolverine movie.
There's two shirtless scenes.
The first Wolverine or X-Men?
Sorry, the first X-Men.
There's two shirtless scenes.
One where he wakes up where Jean Grey's doing the tests on him.
And he looks like a guy.
And the scene at the start where he's cage fighting
was filmed later and he's way bigger.
So it's just Hollywood, isn't it?
It's one inside that counts.
Adamantium and roids.
Anyway, Ben Mendo, if he's the villain in Captain Marvel,
he'll make a great Skrull.
I feel like his face is already transitioning that way.
That's true.
Do you know what I mean?
He's got the wrinkles of a Skrull.
He's got the bum chin.
He's got the bum chin, yeah.
He's sinister enough.
Certainly he could do various accents.
Yep.
Yep.
They've probably got a good morphing effect.
That's true, yeah.
I reckon they've got a good morphing effect.
I reckon like, what's it going to be like?
It'll be a blah, blah, blah.
That's the thing about a morphing effect.
What do you do?
It's kind of all been done.
Yeah.
They did a new one with Civil War.
Not Civil War.
Winter Soldier with the hologram mask.
That's true, yeah. That's an interesting effect.
Which boggles my mind that they haven't done Martian Manhunter yet
because that I feel as in you could do an interesting morphing effect for him
because oftentimes it's, well, I mean, I guess they have in Supergirl
and it's kind of generic.
Oh, yeah, they did.
But, like, there's versions of him where like,
you see his whole body
break apart
and then reform like,
you know,
a foot in the other direction
as somebody else.
That's a good effect.
Look, we got everything
we ever needed to know
about Martian Manhunter
in Justice League of America
1997 telemovie.
That's right.
With the great David Ogden's tears.
You know it.
Also, we should mention
we did a Suicide Squad commentary.
Oh, we sure did. It's up there now. I had a fun time with that one. You know it. Also, we should mention we did a Suicide Squad commentary. Oh, we sure did.
It's up there now.
I had a fun time with that one.
Yeah, it was okay.
Yeah.
Who would have thought that you talk over a movie that you didn't love the first time
and you still didn't love it, but at least it passed the time.
You know what I mean?
Exactly.
You know?
I thought it was fine the first time I saw it and it was fine now.
Anyway, Ben Mendo, good choice.
Yep.
Mason, there's so much good choice. Yep. Mason,
there's so much reboot
in sequel news.
Really?
Let's hear about it.
You would not believe it.
Okay.
I mean, you'll believe this.
It's almost like
nostalgia's big.
Yeah, it is, isn't it?
Yeah.
You sick of nostalgia?
No, not really.
Do you think there's a joke
in like,
remember when nostalgia was good?
Do you know what I mean?
There's a skit in that, right?
There's probably a skit in that.
I've been listening to a lot of Two in the Thick Tank.
It's a great podcast.
Everything's a sketch now, yeah.
Everyone should listen to that.
You're on a couple of episodes?
I'm on a couple of episodes, yeah.
You're on the 100th episode?
I'm about two hours and 45 in,
but just listen to the whole thing.
It's like 10 hours.
It's crazy.
Anyway, Lethal Weapon 5 is back on the table.
Mel Gibson's probably back.
Danny Glover's probably back.
And so is director Richard Donner.
Guess how old Richard Donner is?
68.
Really?
Yes.
Wow.
So he did the first Superman film, Sum of Superman 2.
Oh yeah, I forgot about those.
Yeah.
His last film was 16 Blocks in 2006.
Was that a...
Who was in that?
Bruce Willis.
He had to go 16 blocks.
Oh, nice.
I get that in Assault on Precinct 13, the remake, mixed up.
But I don't remember 16 Blocks.
I remember liking Assault on Precinct 13, the reboot, a little bit,
with Ethan Hawke.
Larry Fishburne.
Larry Fishburne, correct.
Apparently they've been trying to get this happening for years
and there's been a few things in the way.
Probably the racism, that probably didn't help.
Absolutely, yeah.
They were getting too old for it or whatever.
Yeah, I get it.
We talked about this recently.
Mel Gibson is now older than Danny Glover.
I mean, Danny Glover's been saying that for years.
He has, certainly.
I feel like in the first one he must have been like 35, 40.
He couldn't have been that old because it was the 80s.
Now I want to get back to the thing you just said,
which is that Mel Gibson is now older than Danny Glover.
Surely that's always been the case if it ever was true.
No, no.
Mel Gibson is, I looked it up, Mel Gibson is 10 years younger,
but he looks 10 years older.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
He's past him in age.
Right, right, right.
Danny Glover's looking pretty old.
He looks the same.
He looks mostly the same.
No, he looks much older. Yeah, much older, but he Right, right, right. His dandy glove is looking pretty old. He looks the same. He looks mostly the same. No, he looks much older.
Yeah, much older, but he looks, like, comparatively.
Come on, Mason.
Cut him some slack.
It's been, like, 40 years since the first lethal weapon.
Cut him some slack, Mason, if you could.
Okay, well.
Remember in the last one how too old they already were?
Mel Gibson had cut his mullet.
The party was over.
That's right.
They couldn't even beat up Jet Li.
Two of them.
Two to fight Jet Li.
And a bulletproof cop killing. No, sorry. With flames for even beat up Jet Li. Two of them. Two to fight Jet Li. And a bulletproof cop killing.
No, sorry.
With flames for horror.
No, that was at the start.
They had bullets that could shoot through bloody, what are they called?
That was Lethal Weapon 3.
Tractors or whatever.
That was Lethal Weapon 3.
No, that was.
No, that was 3.
Yeah.
How did they kill Jet Li?
They beat him up in the rain as a duo.
I don't remember.
But who got the final kick in?
Probably Mel Gibson.
I remember that being a good fight from memory.
I absolutely guarantee it would not hold up.
But I watched those about 10 years ago.
I remember I watched them all.
Yeah.
First of all, Mel Gibson's mullet's fine.
And then three, it goes insane.
It's like a lion's mane. And then four, it goes insane. It's like a lion's mane.
And then four, they reel it right back in. It's high and tight.
What do you think they're going to do?
They're not going to mullet it, are they?
No, absolutely not.
Yeah, they should give him a little ponytail.
Like a little...
Oh my goodness.
You know what I mean?
Man bun?
I don't know if he's got enough hair for a man bun.
No, that's true.
Yeah.
But anyway.
Do you want this?
Mutton chops.
Ah, no. Yeah. But anyway. Do you want this? Mutton chops. No.
I kind of do.
Is this going to step on the toes of the Lethal Weapon TV series?
Well, that is the question.
And there was also going to be a reboot in the works with Chris Hemsworth,
directed by Justin Lin, which I think sounds pretty good.
Imagine the mullet that Chris Hemsworth would wear.
Oh, my goodness.
He's got such versatile hair.
Oh, doesn't he, Justin? He could do anything. His hair's like his body. It just fluct would wear. Oh my goodness. He's got such versatile hair. Oh, doesn't he just?
He could do anything.
His hair's like his body.
It just fluctuates wildly.
That's right.
Yeah.
Ah, do I want to see it?
No, because what?
Are they going to be action guys in it or is it going to be them and two younger partners
or something?
See, I don't want that.
No, neither do I.
I think that would be, ugh, no good.
I mean, this was bound to happen, wasn't it?
But I mean, what have they got?
What do you mean?
I mean, like, what is Lethal Weapon when you think about it?
It's just two cops.
But one's a loose unit.
But that's every, you know, to some extent,
this set the bar for this sort of action comedy situation.
Yeah, right, yeah.
So now it's old hats.
Like, what's new that they're going to bring?
They've got Joe Pesci.
In one movie, he was bleach blonde.
That's true.
No, you're right.
And I remember when I watched them all, every movie's the same
because at some point, Danny Glover's family get kidnapped.
Yeah.
That inevitably happens.
I think that happens in every movie.
And they slowly transition to...
I mean, the first one was quite serious.
I don't remember.
He was always...
Well, he had a serious mullet.
Yeah, and he was always...
He was always screaming at the beach or whatever,
at Twilight or whatever it was.
And then they slowly...
And then his life improved.
Four is basically a wacky sitcom with some shooting in it.
Chris Tuck is in that one. Yeah. No, sorry. Chris Rock's in that one. Chris Rock is in a wacky yeah yes I'm shooting in it Chris Tucker's in that one yeah no sorry Chris rocks in the rockers in that one
he's gonna marry his daughter or something yeah yeah okay well I'm
thinking of rush hour which is also getting a sequel yeah that was on my
list as well speaking of there's reboots planned for young guns which I've never
seen all right time Western's over give it a I know, we did Magnificent Seven.
It didn't do super well.
Who are the Young Guns, though?
Well, who's the Young Guns today?
Who do you go to?
Tom Holland could be the Young Gun.
Dane DeHaan.
Dane DeHaan.
Oh, Dane DeHaan.
Tom Holland.
Andrew Garfield.
He's too old.
Tobey Maguire.
Oh, you're doing the Spider-Man Young Gun.
Yeah, all the Spider-Men.
Topher Grace.
Topher Grace.
Thomas Hayden Church.
Alfred Molina. You do all the Young Gun topher grace grace thomas hayden church um alfred molina you do all
the young guns such young guns bruce campbell could be several of the young guns willem defoe
the youngest gun of all so young and so gun oh great stuff i don't know who's i mean one of the
stranger things kids probably that's too young i don't think so you just oh you could get one of these
yes he's got great hair he could be a young gun man that can i just say it's not a spoiler alert
but steve's the best right it's pretty good he's the greatest man in that show yeah he's pretty
good uh the other reboot is major league which i never saw but a bloody bunch of same cast also
um we've got charlie who should do the i Sheen. Who should do the... I was going to say,
who should do the music for Young Guns?
Hinder.
Hinder.
Wow, that's...
Might not be modern enough.
That's too...
Because it was peak Bon Jovi when they did...
When they never drew first,
but they drew first blood.
Yeah.
He's the devil's son.
Yeah, call him Young Gun.
Young Gun, yeah.
That's what they call him.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Who do you think?
Who's the new Bon Jovi?
Ah, DJ Snake.
I don't know who that is.
Major League.
Never seen it.
I might be thinking of Angels in the Outfield also.
Your Major League is late.
Don't they both have Charlie Sheen?
I don't think.
I think Major League does.
I don't think Angels in the Outfield does.
I'm going to quickly Google that.
Oh, it's got Danny Glover.
Man, what a world.
Wow.
Oh, he's going to be...
No, it doesn't.
You're right.
But it does have Matthew McConaughey.
Ooh.
Man, I'm getting my bloody...
Getting your googs on.
Getting my baseball movies mixed up.
And the other one is Ace Ventura.
Huh.
Who do you cast as Ace Ventura? Yeah. Who do you cast as Ace Ventura?
And is it a...
Was there a son of Ace Ventura movie?
Three was son of, yeah.
Wow.
Jackson from Sandspants was telling me his dad died in a horrible accident,
so he had to take on the mantle of...
He doesn't have to take on the mantle.
Mason, he kind of has to.
It's not a curse.
No, it's like the crow.
There always has to be an Ace Ventura.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's just going through his dad's things
and he finds a loud Hawaiian.
No, he goes through a portal,
which is a rhinoceros' bum.
Just goes through it.
And then he's transformed.
He goes...
You know what he is?
He's a serious...
He's like a veterinarian or something. good he's like you know what he is he's a serious he's like a veterinarian or something or he's like a like a he's trying to get out of his dad's shadow yeah
veterinary it's like the santa claus he's very serious and then he goes through a rhinoceros
anus and when he comes out his hair's been all slicked into a pompadour and he's wearing a
hawaiian shirt he's like oh no oh my it's venturaura now. So it's the Santa Claus with Ace Ventura.
Yeah, it's a curse, yeah.
Who would you cast though, like really, realistically?
Steve from Strange Things Again.
He probably could do it, couldn't he?
He's got the hair.
He's got the hair.
Yeah.
Did you see that trailer for the Jim Carrey movie
where he's lost his mind or whatever,
where he's like, Jim Carrey doesn't exist anymore.
Oh, so it's the documentary about when he was man on the moon,
when he was bloody Andy Kaufman.
And he couldn't break character the whole time.
And then when he did, he didn't know who he was anymore.
Yes.
Yeah, okay.
I listened to, so on, Norm Macdonald has a podcast.
And a farm.
Thank you.
And Jim Carrey was on it.
Yeah, I saw a bit of that.
And he reiterates the story from Batman Forever
where Tommy Lee Jones can't sanction his buffoonery,
so that story is true, evidently.
Or it seemed awfully, it seemed a little bit like
someone told him that story and
he was like yeah it sounds true i'll just i'll just it all kind of happened at the same time
because i'm we talked about it then i did a video and then a week later that happened but i totally
just i mean it's a story that happened to him isn't it that's true yeah i guess that's true
it's like it all came together at once but he he was a little bit like he seemed he seemed
relatively normal nah for a guy who is
at one point the most famous person in the world yeah but also he did seem a little like he became
he seemed to become more unhinged as the podcast yeah progressed talking about how like and he had
he has no ego and no being anymore and he was like he was like hey so what are you you know
what's what are you doing any of this yeah he's he's like, what are you up to these days?
And like, well, I'm not up to anything because I don't really exist kind of thing.
And I'm like, oh, you've crossed your mind.
Yeah.
And he's like, yeah, because I know he's like, we're just all a collection of thoughts and memories.
Yeah, that's a fucking person.
Yeah.
You idiot.
Yeah.
That's what we all are.
We're just a collection of things we kind of bundled into our brain over a year, over the years, you know, along with the chemicals which are already kind of in there.
It's just, that's what a person is.
You're not unique.
Anyway, who should we cast as Ace Ventura?
God, I just hate that shit, man.
Like, what are you even promoting a movie for then?
Why do anything?
Why don't you sit in a field and shut up?
Yeah.
Anyway.
Give us all your money.
Well, that's the other thing, isn't it? Give all your money away because you don't even own it or exist or we don't exist or and shut up. Yeah. Anyway. Give us all your money. Well, that's the other thing, isn't it?
Give all your money away because you don't even own it or exist or we don't exist or
whatever's happening.
Anyway.
It's just a concept, man.
Yeah.
But I know.
Like, it's not, that's not a startling revelation.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yes.
Because we all agree that money is a thing.
It's not fucking bizarre.
It's just how it is.
That's right.
I mean, it is.
You know what I mean? You seem a little uptight, man.
I hate that shit.
You should have some kombucha.
Yeah, you're probably right.
Kombucha bullshit.
Anyway, they said Konami is making both a Contra TV series and movie,
which they'll probably balls up because they're a horrible company.
A TV and a movie.
Yeah, together.
A TV and a movie.
Okay, when has that worked recently where they've gone,
right, we're going to do a TV show and a movie
and they're going to run parallel to each other.
They were going to do it with Dark Tower
and now they're talking about the TV series is going to be a reboot.
They've quietly shuffled that under the rug, haven't they?
Or have they, yeah.
But all the other Stephen King stuff is doing really well.
So I guess they're like, well, we've got to bring that back out.
So anyway, Contra is, there's two guys who run along with guns.
Correct.
All right.
Yeah, good.
Great.
Feels a little battleship to me.
Yeah.
Because there's nothing really, there's no plot really to Contra.
It's just there's an alien invasion and the only people who can stop it
are two shirtless men.
Yes.
What's the Konami code, Mason?
Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, are two shirtless men. Yes. What's the Konami code, Mason?
Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, start.
Select start sometimes.
Okay.
Yeah, 30 lives.
That's the thing they're going to put in the movie.
They'll definitely put it in. Somebody will have to do some sort of button combination on a...
Do you think everybody will clap wildly?
I think somebody will have to defuse a bomb
or shut down a satellite that's going to blow up the world
and that'll be the code and everybody will stand up and cheer you know what yes i dare them to just
not do it just don't do it because not everything has to be in everything no it has to be every
video game adaptation has to have some some video game element to it that takes you out of it that
takes you out of an already bad movie and makes you really reflect on your life choices that's what that element's for you're right you're right and that yeah okay you're not
wrong yeah uh fox is apparently just just there's not enough content for a movie and a tv show of
contra no i mean anything can be good yeah or bad unless the movie is contra and the tv show is
probotector which is the what it was called in aust. Was it? And they were robots, not men.
Is that because of some kind of code?
Some sort of censorship thing, I think.
Of course they did.
Australian government.
They were always changing our games from the 90s.
That's right.
And also recently sometimes.
Barnaby Joyce update.
You're out of parliament, you son of a bitch.
Is he?
Because he's not an Australian citizen.
So he's actually out.
He's out.
Good.
Him and Malcolm Roberts.
Anyway, it's not important.
He's a real sack of shit, that bloke.
Yeah, right?
Yeah, good.
Fox is considering an ex...
Anyway, that's vindication for Pistol and Boo.
Yeah, I guess it is.
I mean, who do I want to win in that situation?
Johnny Depp or Barnaby Joyce?
I mean, it's not...
No, I...
I don't feel good.
No, I hope they fight to the death.
Yeah.
They meet in a bar and glass each other to death.
Anyway.
Fox is considering an X-23 film.
Okay.
James Mangold said that Patty Jenkins' success with Wonder Woman only solidifies.
For more studios, there's less fear with a female protagonist.
There you go.
So, yeah.
It kind of worries me because that movie ended super well.
Yeah, but I think they will just...
But I like that character.
I think x-men
universe style they'll just put it in the modern day and it'll be a different different person
playing x-23 i reckon she'll be a grown-up no i think they'll get her back because i don't think
there's any rush to this is going to happen so i think she could be like 16 17 by the time it
rolls around all right okay look i'm willing to i'm willing to concede they'll they may use the
same actor i will concede nothing.
But I think they will just put it in the modern day.
Okay.
X-Men style.
They'll just be like... Whatever.
It's modern day and McAvoy's in it.
Yeah, that's right.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah.
And also, maybe they'll concede.
They'll be like, it was a weird summer, wasn't it?
Remember when the whole environment was falling to pieces
and we had those self-driving trucks and the crops were dying?
And then they fixed it, so it's fine now.
There were no mutants, but then there was.
Oh, then it turns out all these mutants were in a bunker.
Yeah, we're all hiding in a bunker again.
We're fine.
Hey, Cyclops.
Hey, Jean Grey.
Also, Mystique is Rebecca Romijn,
and Storm is whoever plays the young Storm
because who cares
who cares right
it doesn't matter
yeah
yeah
what else we got here
Justin Lim will direct
Fast and Furious 9 and 10
ooh
that's good
he's the good one
he did uh
I think he did 4, 5, 6
maybe
which are all
the good ones
when they got good again
that's right
so bring him back
he did 7
I think he did 7
I don't think he did
James Wan did 7
oh yeah I'm confusing them
and which was also
an okay one
yeah
well who did the last one
I don't know
I think Gary Gray
did the last one I think
there you go
which was also fine
let me double check that Mason
nah don't bother
it's too late
alright
you've changed man
I've never changed
you never used to give anything a googs
yeah but now that it's in front of me
what am I going to do?
Not Google it?
Mm-hmm.
Oh, this Angels in the Outfield page is just not shifting.
But Tony Danza's in it, so it's Christopher Lloyd.
Yep.
He did do it.
Nice.
That was worth it, wasn't it?
Yeah.
Good.
Vincent D'Onofrio is in Daredevil Season 3.
Good.
Great.
He's good.
So he's a big old sookie baby man yep and he'll slam a man's
head in a car door till it's mush more of that place and he can bring all that to daredevil
season three definitely as the character of the kingpin yes correct so good what i did there is
i pretended that his character traits as the kingpin were in fact his character character traits in real life i understood that and so did
everybody listening uh gareth ed gareth evans director of the raid and the raid too have you
seen those yes never seen him i just watched the clips of the like people hitting each other with
fridge doors and shit i should watch no you're thinking you're thinking of the jackie chan movie
rumble in the bronx i might be thinking of Ong Back also, which also has a slight fright with the fridge.
He's going to apparently direct the Deathstroke movie.
There you go.
Now, Deathstroke was going to be the villain in the Batman, but everything changed and
everybody left or came back.
And who knows?
Maybe Affleck's in, maybe he's out.
Yeah.
Well, for the moment, he's in.
And also, he was going to appear in Justice League, and maybe he will or maybe he won't.
So we don't know yet.
I mean, seeing as Justice League's relatively short now,
he may not.
That's going to be a...
And maybe he's the guy in that bank heist scene
where Wonder Woman beats everybody up.
But I think that's in Europe.
He can go to Europe.
People can't go to Europe, Mason.
It's like a long flight, especially for us.
That's true.
Maybe he lives here, so it took him like 20 hours.
That's true.
You wouldn't want to have jet lag and have to rob a bank.
Imagine that.
How do you get your Euros out of the country?
Because they can scan for that on your way out.
Plus you've got your Deathstroke costume.
You've got to get your Deathstroke costume over there.
It's a whole thing, Mason.
You could do it back in the day you could just you know flip it over the metal
detector or whatever nobody the whole costume just flip it over the metal to catch it on the
way that would sound like a sack of stack hats like there's no way you'd get away with that
yeah anyway good would you say death deathstroke movie. Joe Manganiello, however you say it, who was in Spider-Man.
Man, I would.
Look, if it's Gareth Edwards, absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Remember they were talking about remakes?
You should see those.
I know.
It's one of those things that I haven't seen.
You want to see a petite Thai woman beat 20 men to death with a pair of hammers?
In real life?
Yeah.
Is there a show for that?
I could go overseas.
Absolutely.
Yeah, that's right. Just a weird secluded bar just go to just go to a hooters in thailand
you'll see that happen yeah cool no i absolutely want to see that don't they also kill characters
and then come back as different characters in the next movie because they're good at kung fu or
whatever kind of martial arts they do in that probably maybe though yeah but maybe not we i've
got a whole lot of yeah we did all that, the news for the Justice League and whatnot.
Oh, yeah.
Apparently, with the Venom movie, which is coming up,
it's started filming.
Tom Hardy's on set.
Terrific.
He's loving life.
Venom's going to be done through motion capture, the suit,
which makes sense.
Yep.
I didn't really think they'd do otherwise, I guess.
No.
Spandex.
What if it was just black spandex?
They can do a Spider-Man, pretty good Spider-Man spandex what if it was just well they can do a spider-man pretty good
spider-man spandex they could do a combination then again the spider-man suit is mostly cgi now
as well and we don't know what kind of venom this is yet no and we'll never will no never gonna see
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Strange things. This is not the ad. Okay, we finished the ad. We finished the ad? Okay, good. On Disney+. Stranger Things.
This is not the ad.
Okay, we've finished the ad.
We've finished the ad.
Okay, good.
This is a clean break.
Nice.
Stranger Things Season 2 is upon us, mate.
We should do that.
We should say, when we finish an ad, we should say we've finished the ad.
And then sometimes we don't.
And the ad continues.
It's like fake doors.
It's like fake doors.
Exactly.
That's right.
Okay, gotcha. It's like fake doors. It's like fake doors. Exactly. That's right. Okay, gotcha.
And we interweave,
because otherwise we could just interweave Harry's ads
into our discussion of the TV show Stranger Things.
And you can't escape it.
No, that's right.
You can't escape the product placement in Stranger Things, though.
What kind of product placement?
Three Musketeers bars.
Delicious nougat and chocolate.
See, I've never seen those.
That's obviously not a thing here.
No.
So they're still popular?
Yeah.
Okay.
If you go to a weird American candy store in Melbourne,
you can get a Three Musketeers.
I do like going to a weird American candy store.
They're good, aren't they?
Sometimes I buy a thing and I'm like,
I think I love Reese's Pieces.
Then I eat three and I'm like,
oh shit, my heart's got to stop.
American candy runs the absolute gamut
from incredible to just total garbage.
It's strange, isn't it?
Yeah.
It's a stranger thing in a way.
Junior Mints, love them.
Junior Mints, yeah.
What else do you love?
Do you love a Dr. Pepper?
No, I don't care for Dr. Pepper.
And I don't know whether I still do.
We talked about this in the show.
Anyway, what else is there?
Pop-tarts.
Some are good, some are awful.
I don't understand why people think that's breakfast.
That's clearly not something you should ever eat,
let alone for breakfast.
Am I wrong?
It should be your dying meal.
Like, well, I'm not going to live any longer anyway,
so Pop-Tarts, please.
It looks like a weird sugary crisp bread
with a fucking roll-up stuck on the top.
I'm sure it's icing or something else,
and is there a filling in it as well?
Sometimes there's a filling, yeah.
Yeah, it's one of those things where I wanted as a kid,
and I think I had one once, and I went, oh, no.
This is no good.
Like Froot Loops.
Yeah.
Garbage.
No, they're good.
No, they're not.
Frosties.
Yum, yum, yum.
If you want, just put your own sugar on your cereal.
Sounds like a lot of work.
You know what, Mason?
Sounds like calories that I'm going to burn
that I should just not be burning and just eating sugar cereal.
And the other thing is now is people, you're fast,
so you don't even have a breakfast.
That's what people are doing.
Oh, no.
Anyway, should we talk about, so just candy?
Is that just the product placement?
What else?
Is there some American brands like a Radio Shack?
Yeah.
Is that even still a thing?
Radio Shack is still around apparently.
So it's like their JB.
Yeah.
Okay.
Their James Brayshaw. Correct. From the hot JB. Yeah. Okay. Their James Brayshaw.
Correct.
From the hot breakfast.
Good.
Good reference.
Thank you.
Yeah.
All right.
So we're going to white Reese's cups.
They're very good.
Never had one.
They're real nice.
So it's non-
Actually, you know what I did get when it was-
Claire bought that Reese's Pieces peanut butter mix.
Yeah, yeah.
Like the spread.
Uh-huh.
It's too much. Chocolate and peanut butter? It's too much going on there. No, yeah. Like the spread. It's too much.
Chocolate and peanut butter?
Too much going on there.
No, that's real good.
Yeah.
No, I think if you're going to do it, do it yourself.
Get some Nutella.
Again, that sounds like a lot of work.
The advantage of American candy and spreads and stuff
is they've done all the work for you.
You want a peanut butter and jelly?
Just have a jar with it all in there.
No, it shouldn't be in together
because you want to get your own ratios.
This madness, Mason.
What about Vegemite and Cheese Spread?
What do you reckon about that?
The worst thing that's ever happened.
I think that's a good combo.
Do you remember when they did
Vegemite and Cheese Craft Singles?
Yes.
Garbage.
Wow.
Everybody likes their own ratio
of Vegemite and Cheese.
You can't inflict that on a man.
I think you absolutely can.
You've lost it.
And that's why it's no longer in stores, Mason,
because you're wrong.
Wow.
Anyway, there'll be non-spoilers
then spoilers on Strangest Things.
That being said, we will spoil season one because it kind of leads directly into two.
And if you don't want to know anything...
Shut up.
Eat your Pop-Tart and get in your crane.
That's right.
Wow.
Take those earbuds out, throw your listening device off a bloody bridge, mate.
Yeah.
So I would say don't listen to any of this, would you say?
Yeah.
If you don't want to know?
Yeah.
Okay, good.
Because also, if we have one skill,
it's accidentally putting spoilers in our non-spoiler segment.
Yes, that's right.
Yeah.
And also, it's all time linked below,
so you can skip any of this.
That's true.
Okay, Mason.
Season one was a smash hit.
It was such a smash hit, people didn't it they have but they paid us to advertise it remember
yeah i remember they're like we don't know if this is gonna do well and in this one they went
everyone will watch it yes because we didn't get a call back these guys that being said
what did you think the story was oh geez all right hang on uh we're doing it for tv as well
i forgot all right hang on it's every week for everything all right all right hang on we're doing it for TV as well I forgot alright hang on it's every week for everything
I should go for news
alright hang on
I should go
Mason there's Batman news
what do you think the news was
that's what I should do
it's very true
um
Affleck's out
or he's in
ugh
alright so
Stranger Things 2
alright okay
here we go
so
in Stranger Things 1
they went to the upside down world
and there was
it's a parallel dimension.
Everything sucks.
It's no good.
Maybe we're in it already.
I don't know.
It's strange because who built all the stuff in that parallel dimension?
That's a good question, isn't it?
Or is the Upside Down world, did our universe exist already?
And then it's come out of that somehow?
It's been spawned from that, I guess.
And there was no people in it, so it's just all fallen to bits.
Maybe that's what's happened.
They've got a great particle effect, little white things drifting in the air.
I find that unpleasant.
Really?
Yeah.
Because you're going to breathe one in or get one up your nose.
I think it's a digital effect because they're always very well separated.
Yeah, it can't be real
Anyway, so keep going
It's an upside down time
So anyway, last season they fought the Demogorgon
Yep
The kids
Yep
The little kids
And now it's a year later
and they're trying to readjust to life
in a tidy little town
Eleven died also in the first one
Not really though
Well, it's in the trailers
But in what manner is she back? Who knows? Eleven died also in the first one. Not really, though. Well, it's in the trailers.
But in what manner is she back?
Who knows?
It's a bloody... She's on the posters also.
It's not really a spoiler.
Also, we said don't listen.
We're sorry.
Why would they kill her off for good?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, but maybe they should have.
That was maybe one of my complaints.
Really?
Maybe not necessarily.
We'll talk about it later.
Really?
Mason, you bloody know what the story was.
Not the story again, ever.
I don't know how you've done it.
But there's more trouble afoot, isn't there?
Yeah, there is.
There's more upside down-ness than ever.
I equate this to kind of like the way that Alien was Alien
and this is Aliens.
Do you know what I mean?
Yes.
Would you say there's elements of that in this?
Yes.
Like there's specific references,
but also I think the stakes have been upped in that way
that sort of Aliens was.
Yes. But, and also in the sense stakes have been upped in that way that sort of Aliens was. Yes.
But, and also in the sense that Paul Ries is in it.
Yes.
And the cat.
Yep.
You know the cat that's like.
Yeah, that's true.
It's very alien.
Yeah.
Anything else?
I didn't think of it that way.
Did you feel that the stakes had been upped in a way that you enjoyed?
Because I say no, not really.
I didn't think so because, look, first off, I really enjoyed it.
Me too.
And I think it wrapped up really well.
But I think the central kind of conflict of the first movie
was there was a boy who was missing.
And then it turned out that he wasn't dead
and the government had made a fake body yeah
and and it turns out he was just trapped in this other dimension but the like the stakes are higher
but because you don't have that emotional connection to this one person who's missing
and there is a bit of kind of like 11 you know, what happened to 11 and we got to get 11 back or whatever, but that's kind of without, you know, she comes back, it's in the trailers,
but that's kind of resolved relatively quickly.
That's true.
So that aspect of it was, yeah, I didn't love, but the kind of the real world kind of like
things would have gone much worse in this series if things go bad at the end.
Do you know what I mean?
Like the stakes are higher.
That's true, yeah.
But they didn't feel as personal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's not a lot of like Winona Ryder
like screaming in a wall or whatever.
It's true.
Less of that, yeah.
Less of that, yeah.
You know who's good in this?
Who's that?
Sean bloody Aston.
He's good, isn't he?
It was great to see.
There's a few kind of,
well, Paul Reisner, obviously,
and Sean Aston, is that his name?
Yes.
He's from the Hobbit, but people know him from The Goonies,
so it's another kind of 80s.
And Rudy.
And Rudy, that's right, yeah.
I thought that was a nice little inclusion.
That's what I'm talking about.
You get a former child actor, you put him in a modern-day film,
you know what I mean?
People feel the feels.
They feel the feels.
Get a Ralph Macchio, bring him back.
Oh, it's Shazam.
Billy Batson, Ralph Macchio.
He probably would be a good Shazam.
Fred Savage. He's doing friends with kids
isn't he yep yeah fred savage friends with kids no what's the one he's doing uh friends college
friends or whatever yeah yeah yeah okay fair enough yeah no i thought that i thought the new
additions were good ron howard billy batson now it's ron howard yeah well actually they they do
a similar speaking of billy well actually they do a similar
speaking of Billy Batson
they do a similar thing
in Black Hammer
where there's a girl
who changes into
the Wonder Girl
but then she eventually
ages into an old woman
but she still changes
into the girl
that yeah
yeah it's interesting
so it's a fun concept
yeah yeah
someone else thought of it
first
oh god damn it
no I thought the new cast
was good
there's a new red headed
girl in the group.
Yep, playing Max.
That was a good inclusion.
One of the better inclusions I also thought was the new bully.
He's like the evil Steve.
Yeah, right.
Who was the Red Ranger from Power Rangers.
Oh, was he?
There you go.
Yeah, same guy.
Which Red Ranger?
The first one?
No, from the last movie.
Oh, right.
Yeah, the one from the 90s.
I don't know.
I'm all messed up.
I don't know about timelines. Yeah, the one from the 90s. I don't know. I'm all messed up. I don't know about timelines.
Yeah, you don't.
I've just been thinking about young, old Billy Batsons all week.
So, I don't know.
Your head's elsewhere.
But no, I liked him because apparently the original Steve was supposed to be meaner.
Right, okay.
And he kind of starts that way and then he kind of comes good.
And in this one, you've got like an even, like Steve's kind of cooler and nicer.
And you get like an even meaner, meanerer steve yeah right which i which i really liked uh-huh like you
seem like a legit psychopath yeah yeah which i guess that's very much a trope of things from
the 80s in it we had something very similar the the bully who's a legit psychopath yeah right do
you feel that's over you what do you How do you feel about this series as...
Do you feel that it beat you over the head with tropes from the 80s
and nostalgia and et cetera?
I think less so this season.
Yeah.
Matt, who does some editing for us, he said actually that same thing.
Yeah.
The first one was like, do you remember the 80s?
It's the 80s.
Yeah, right.
This one was less, it's the 80s.
Yeah, it feels like it's developed its own,
it exists as its own universe now.
You don't really feel it as much.
Although, yeah, I didn't really feel the first,
again, because I have no nostalgia for anything.
Yeah.
I didn't really feel beaten over the head with that sort of thing.
And not in this one either, even though they were like, here's a he-man action figure not really his centerpiece and also because
you know they'd go to a party and they'd be playing talking heads or whatever yeah if you went to a
party in the 80s they'd be playing talking heads right like it's not if you went to a regular house
party second i'm like it's talking heads a board game? You think of Celebrity Head. I am, yeah.
But like if you went to a party in the 80s,
they wouldn't play real deep album cuts of some obscure band
that you'd never heard of.
Exactly.
They'd be playing their current hits because that's what people want to hear.
I think the budget or the music budget for this was insane, right?
Compared to the first one.
They're much more recognisable.
Pop hits.
That's true.
Rock you like a hurricane.
I was in there, yeah.
I was in there.
I heard something.
I don't know whether this is true, that half the budget was music.
Oh.
That wouldn't surprise me at all.
Do you think you need to go that kind of well-known with the 80s music?
Not really, no. Yeah, I don't think so.
I think you could probably put more money into more monsters.
You don't even have to put any music at all, really. No. Yeah. I mean, we're not listening to music right now, are we? No, no. Yeah, I don't think so. I think you could probably put more money into more monsters. You don't even have to put any music at all, really.
No.
Yeah.
I mean, we're not listening to music right now, are we?
No.
Just put it into that bloody synth score.
Yeah.
I do like the synth score.
The Stranger Things theme is very good.
Isn't it?
Yeah.
Hey, also, we've got a Stranger Things t-shirt on our TeePublic store,
but it's like in our font.
Yeah, yeah.
Or it's either there or it's nearly there
I don't know
I'd try to put it up
there's also a new
Fergal Quigley design
absolutely
Thor Ragnarok style
Thor Ragnarok yeah
he's a good dude
yeah
maybe we'll talk about that
more next week
when we do Thor Ragnarok
also
we'll push our t-shirts
our merch in the relevant weeks
great
he's a good dude
what else we got here Mason
yeah I felt like there was
not as much to
like no
they found more
stuff to do with winona rider which was good in this yeah because because will is still feeling
the residual effects of being stuck in that shit planet uh-huh that's what it's called isn't it
yeah that's right and yeah i think she does kind of shrieking mother kind of really well i think
yeah yeah yeah and she's with the Sean Astin guy
and I like that.
But at first I'm like,
oh, this guy seems like a big old dork
and, you know, he's...
But he develops into like a realistic
and interesting character.
That's true.
I feel, yeah.
He's not just like Carrie Elwes
in Liar Liar, the stepdad.
You remember that?
No, I don't remember that he's doing the claw
but he's not as good
as Jim Carrey
don't remember it
okay good
you know who is great in this
David Harbour
yeah
he's the best
he's gonna make a great
hellboy
yeah that's true
even better than
Ron Perlman Mason
ooh who's to say
I'm asking you
oh
uh
yes
Jesus yeah that's right yeah I think you'll be as good okay wow i didn't i
wasn't aware that was an option there son of a bitch yeah and i think there's a lot of scenes
between him and 11 and i think that's that's some really good stuff there and they're they're really
they bounce off each other well yeah you know i like about that guy as well he looks like a real guy like he's kind of balding he's a bit doughy you know what i mean like he
looks like a real person that you could meet or know or is a guy in your friendship group that's
just real surly and yeah enormous sure it feels like a real person yeah yeah yeah how about this
yes barb yes she's she died in the last season. Yes.
Still feeling the effects of that.
Her family's still looking for her,
even though she's stuck in a horrible world.
Wait, is she stuck there or is she dead?
Well, her body's there.
Yeah, I was going to say.
Nancy and Jonathan, who was caught with cocaine,
that actor the other day at the airport or whatever.
I don't know anything more about that.
But yeah, they kind of,
no more Nancy's kind of just a lie to the parents
and pretend that she could still be out there.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, it's pretty terrible.
But I don't know,
because this is a minor spoiler,
but they also seem to,
all the characters seem to have more concern
for Barb in this season
than they did in the previous season.
Yes.
Where like two episodes later,
people are like,
who cares?
Yeah.
Do you think that's a fan response?
Yeah, totally.
Yeah.
People love that character.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They develop Nancy and Jonathan's relationship in this as opposed to Nancy and Steve.
Right.
But I think Nancy and Steve are more interesting together, even though he's kind of like the
cool guy.
Yeah.
And I think I like that character more.
Is that just me?
He's just got great hair.
He does have great hair. He's cool with kids. Yeah. He looks like John Ralphio. But also, yeah, that character more. Is that just me? He's just got great hair. He's got great hair, yeah.
He's good with kids.
Yeah.
He looks like John Ralphio.
But also, yeah, that's true.
But also, I don't feel he cared.
I don't know.
Maybe he does have deep feelings,
but it seemed to me his whole vibe was like,
relationships, not for me kind of thing, you know?
Okay.
So he doesn't really care
about the relationship he's in i think he did oh yeah anyway maybe that's just maybe that's it
maybe we just think different things season feel to you like it was kind of a setup for stranger
things three there's a little bit of that yeah yeah i kind of do you want to get into spoilers
then yeah let's get into spoilers but you know what best series ever right yeah great time i mean
you've probably got netflix so i guess watch it. Just watch it, yeah.
Yeah.
And it's only nine, which is great.
That's true, yeah.
So good work.
Yeah, so what do you think then?
Where do you think they're going to go with three?
I think that towards the middle when Eleven met Eight
and met all Eight's wacky friends,
I think that was definitely,
they were putting out the feelers for a spinoff there.
Right, okay.
They were like, yeah, okay, we're going to.
See where that goes.
Yeah.
So I felt like I liked that stuff with Eleven and her sister and whatever,
but I think there was a lot of episodes
where they just needed to kind of get her out of the way.
Yeah, right.
This is from Matt, the editing Matt.
Yeah.
He said, Eleven really shouldn't have been in this season
because she has nothing to do
and it kind of ruins her sacrificial death last season.
But I see why they put her in there because she's super awesome and stuff.
So I feel like, yeah, you probably could have brought her back later in the season.
They really sidelined her and then went, you know what, she can have her own adventure.
I think you could have revealed in episode six that she was always living with David Harbour.
Yeah, right. But you're right though i think yeah that stuff is probably setting up season season three do you
think there's going to be like a bigger monster that monster's going to come back i hope so
it's a smoke man what is it what is going on there yeah i don't know but i i i the most
disappointing thing for me in this season was that they just went,
okay, what's more threatening than a Demogorgon?
Ah, 50 of them.
Yeah.
And let's add the alien aliens thing.
Yeah.
There's even like a going to the nest scene.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
And even that monster is like the queen.
You know what I mean?
It's like the alien queen.
But I think, yeah, but aliens was more impactful for some reason for me.
I don't know why that, maybe because they're-
Was it Hicks?
Maybe it was Hicks.
Yeah.
Maybe they're just inherently more terrifying.
Yeah, I think that's definitely true.
But we've seen like a thousand variations of the Alien since then,
so that's probably part of it as well.
Yeah.
So the stakes were higher, but the stakes have never been lower.
That's very true, yeah.
Yeah.
So the stakes were higher, but the stakes have never been lower.
That's very true, yeah. Yeah.
So do you think it's going to get physical in the real world,
this big smoke monster?
I hope so.
I mean, all the promotional material, I assumed that was some sort of –
it looked like a giant Cthulhu kind of tentacle,
slimy giant creature kind of thing.
But just to have it be smoke. Yeah.
Didn't really.
Didn't that's a budget thing?
Look, maybe I'm just Shania Twain-ing it,
but that did not impress me much.
Impress you much?
Did not impress me much.
Good.
Don't know, yeah.
You want a giant Brad Pitt?
Yeah.
I don't know.
And it also, I don't know,
it didn't even feel really like it was,
there was any kind of,
I kind of was expecting there to be some sort of more of a mastermind behind anything like it was, there was any kind of, I kind of was expecting there
to be some sort of more of a mastermind behind anything.
Like it didn't, it didn't really feel like there was even that much intelligence behind
it really.
It was just an instinctive.
No, see, I think there was because it lured all those soldiers into a trap.
That's true.
You know what I mean?
It's working through will to, by the way, that kid's a great actor.
Like he does like screaming and pain and terrifying and scared really, really well.
And I love the bit where Sean Astin's like, you should confront your fears.
And then he does and it's like the worst thing he could possibly do.
Yeah.
The lesson there, parents, not always right.
Yeah, shut up.
Yeah.
Don't trust your stepdad.
No, definitely not.
I mean, if he's a good bloke.
Yeah, he could be a good bloke yeah it could be a good bloke there
couldn't he yeah yeah yeah i know yeah so it'd be weird like next season if all of a sudden what
they're just gonna have a big smashy monster you know i mean because yeah because the the kind of
the things it felt a little bit heroes remember heroes yeah i remember when i had to watch heroes
because there was nothing else like it. The Dark Days.
Yeah, yeah.
That's when we were in the Upside Down world.
Boy, were we.
Just a world falling apart and you could only watch Heroes on network TV with ads.
Ugh.
Ugh.
Yeah, so what way do you mean it was like Heroes?
Because there were so many heroes in this.
Yeah, but also it felt like they were kind of introducing more caricaturesque.
That's not a word.
Caricatures?
Yeah, more like character archetypes, you know,
that were not fully three-dimensional characters.
Like the conspiracy theory guy?
Yeah, Brett Gellman as the conspiracy guy.
I enjoyed him.
But also, like, you know, there's a punk guy
and there's a big bruiser guy, what have you.
It felt more like we're going to put together a team
and it's going to be the Warriors and it's the X-Men.
Yeah, right.
Okay, sure.
Except one of them had powers and the rest of them did not.
Are we going to see the remaining...
How many's left?
Nine?
There'll have to be nine, yeah.
Because I don't think there was anyone after 11 unless they escaped.
So there we go.
We've got our seasons mapped out, don't we?
That's right.
I think they want to do four.
They want to do four, yeah.
Is that right?
Yeah.
Yeah, you know what?
Okay, you're saying like there's a lot of like tropes of like,
oh, the caricatures of whatever.
But I think it was interesting in this they made the government not the worst.
Like the poor rise of the Bible.
Yeah, right, yeah.
He didn't really know what he was doing, but he was trying.
And so it was kind of other people in that facility.
They weren't trying to hurt Wheel or Eleven.
They just wanted to kind of fix the problem that the previous team had done.
I liked that.
And also, I think the other thing that Beast was...
And that throws you for a loop because you assume Paul Reiser,
he's either going to be a sinister company man like in Aliens
or the guy from Mad About You.
Mad About You. Yeah, exactly. A loyal husband to Helen Hunt. Yeah. either going to be a sinister company man like in aliens or the guy from mad about you yeah exactly
a loyal husband to helen hunt yeah he was more mad about you wasn't he he was a bit more mad
about you yeah he was mad about bloody diner food wasn't he yeah he had one meal yeah but he was
bloody mad about it he's mad about it yeah but i think the monster was kind of i think it had more
depth than i don't think it was just instinct because even things like
it was trying to get through
the hole in the wall
so it went
it just made tunnels
and whatever
I thought that was interesting
I mean you could just say
that's an instinctual
root system or whatever
yeah so it felt more like
yeah like
like a bees or something
yeah
but even the way it could control
the demogorgon
and whatnot
what do you think about
the friendly demogorgon
I mean it paid off
didn't it, Mason?
Did it?
Because it was friendly and then they escaped
because they gave him a nougat.
That's true.
Yeah.
I thought it was fine.
Good.
Did you always knew that was going to be a bad thing?
It seemed like a bad thing from the get-go.
Oh, for sure, yeah.
What else was it going to do?
Yeah.
You know what?
I think this show did not benefit from.
What's that?
Like the mad publicity tour the kids went on in between seasons. Right, sure, sure. I think this show did not benefit from what's that like the mad publicity tour
the kids went on
in between seasons
right sure sure
I think it would have been
they've done a lot of red carpets
yeah I think it would have been
better if they kind of disappeared
because it was easier
to see them as real kids
in the first one
because you'd never seen
any of them before
that's true
and they wrote stuff
and you know the guy
who had no teeth
in the first season
yes
he really had no teeth
huh
so it was
and they wrote some aspects does he
have teeth now he doesn't have them now yeah i think i don't got him put in or whatever it's
a condition where people where your your bones and your jaw don't develop properly all right but um
yeah i think it would have been easy to kind of come back into this universe if i hadn't seen them
on you know kimmel or what not yeah right couple karaoke yeah exactly whatever so I know
I just think yeah I mean they were all good I think they're all they're all really solid but
uh yeah I think maybe that yeah maybe that hurt the season just a little bit maybe and initially
at least yeah but at least none of them got real weird looking it's true they just remained real
weird looking yeah for now I think the next few years we're going to see some height discrepancies
one of them's going to get
super good looking
but you won't
you don't know which one
yeah that's true
it's going to be really unexpected
yeah
exactly
it'll never long bottom it
you know that guy
yeah absolutely
yeah
what else Mason
um
Dragon's Quest is a shit game
isn't it
Dragon's Lair
Dragon's Lair sorry
yeah that was
yeah
what a game disagree
garbage yeah i mean i like the animation but that's a bullshit that's a quick time event
that entire thing absolutely it is it was a quick time event that cost like two bucks to throw you
know crazy yeah is that is that about it i mean you know it's good oh yeah you literally just
finished it didn't you i did yeah, yeah. Yeah. Good times.
Maybe you do go Smashy Monster in the next one.
I hope so.
Can you do another conspiracy?
I guess that was it.
How did it feel moving out of the town?
You know, when Eleven went on a little trip?
Felt okay, I think.
Did it feel okay?
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't know, a little disconcerting.
Yeah.
No, I think that was probably some of the weakest stuff because I think that again came down to what do you do with 11?
It feels more Stephen King-y, I guess,
or more 80s nostalgia if it's all...
In the one place.
I guess it's a fine line
because if it's always set in the same small town,
the question always becomes,
well, why don't they just leave the town?
Because I guess not everyone knows.
That's true.
Yeah.
It's weird seeing it's weird like seeing
season one
and then seeing it
and then coming back to this
yeah
like it's
it's the bloody
it's a hot topic
it is a hot topic
getting kids to fight a weird thing
you're not wrong
yeah
you know what else is good about this
what's that
the adults believe the kids a lot of the time
that is good yeah
it's very refreshing
yeah
that is nice
alright
that'll do it I think so well Mason we've got to do our next segment oh what we're reading what we're going to read leave the kids a lot of the time. That is good, yeah. It's very refreshing. Yeah. Yeah. That is nice. All right.
That'll do it?
I think so.
Well, Mason, we've got to do our next segment.
Oh, what are we reading?
What are we going to read?
My goodness.
I'm doing a thing.
What are we reading today?
Actually, before we do that, I got some tweets from people.
Okay.
And then we'll do the theme song.
Okay.
This is from Jonah Jones.
Ooh.
Can we have 20 minutes on the hair in Stranger Things in Monday's Weekly Planet pod?
Man.
Yeah, we can talk hair.
Pretty good hair.
Well, look, we mentioned David Harbour.
Yep.
Regular man hair.
Regular man hair.
Pretty great.
Steve's got amazing hair. Amazing hair.
You can find out the secret behind his hair.
Great mullet.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Good lift.
Yeah.
What do you think about the kid's hair at the end?
Yep.
Great mullet.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Good lift.
Yeah.
What do you think about the kid's hair at the end?
The kid who did his hair up at the school dance.
Oh, yeah, that's fun, yeah.
Yeah.
Because he bloody loves Steve, doesn't he?
New bully's hair, absolute garbage.
Again.
Yeah, that's a weird rap. Again, I think I've mentioned this before,
but if I acquired a time machine,
I would just go back to the 80s and be like,
you guys look like idiots.
That's what I'd do. You look so stupid with your stupid hair you think you look cool but you don't look cool you look stupid yeah it's not embarrassing yeah embarrassing you all think
you're cool but you were we all think you're the biggest losers in 2017 look at you idiots
look at you this is called the website. It's called BuzzFeed.
And here's the worst.
Here's the hundred worst prom photos of all time.
And you're all on it, you idiots.
I mean, that's not going to happen for us, is it?
No, we look really, we look fine.
We look fine.
We all look fine.
Everybody listening, you all look fine.
Just wear whatever's trendy.
You look fine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Really? you don't
want to go too trendy i feel like it's i'm like i go safe i'm like nothing too crazy with a haircut
yeah jeans and a t-shirt i feel like that you could wear that forever it's true yeah
my bloody mcweldon might get a bloody uh any other hair 11 grew her hair out a bit that's
yeah i don't like evil 11 didn't really care for any of that.
Yeah, that's right.
Come on.
She had a little 80s new wave goth meltdown there.
That was pretty fun.
That's from Aaron.
Oh, no, sorry.
That's a tweet for later.
Ooh.
Sorry.
Vaughn says, just finished watching Stranger Things.
I loved it.
What are your thoughts on it?
Did it hold up for the first season?
We just did a whole episode on it. Aaron. Actually, that was Vaughn. Vaughn. I loved it. What are your thoughts on it? Did it hold up for the first season? We just did a whole episode on it.
Aaron.
Actually, that was Vaughn.
Vaughn.
But Aaron also.
Come on, mate.
Here's a question.
This is from Metal Eugenio.
Which of the Stranger Things cast
reminds you of yourself?
Probably the most pathetic one.
Good question. They all kind of blend i don't know they're all they're all nerds yeah they're always at the main just the main cast i guess um let's say yeah when you're
a kid oh you're probably dustin yeah yeah that's probably not wrong. Yeah. You look like him.
Thank you.
With your no teeth.
Oh, what?
Come on, mate.
That's from pronounceable name.
I've got one big teether, all right?
Yeah.
I use it for opening cans.
Steve was the only one to go through a real character arc,
and look where that got him.
Hashtag justice for Steve.
Yeah.
Yeah, he got done by in the end, didn't he?
I think Sean Astin also went through a bit of an arc.
Yeah.
See where that got him.
Torn apart. Torn to pieces. By weird dogs. Yeah. All right. Now, I think Sean Astin also went through a bit of an arc. See where that got him. Torn apart.
Torn to pieces.
By weird dogs.
Yeah.
All right.
Now, I think that will do it now, Mason.
Yep.
Shall we do it?
Famous segment.
What are we reading?
What are we going to read?
Are you going to put the theme in twice?
Yeah, should I?
Because we introduced the segment earlier,
and then we introduced it again.
I don't know, man.
It's a bloody rollercoaster, isn't it?
Yeah, isn't it, though?
I'm doing the theme.
What are we reading today?
What are we doing?
What have you read?
Let's see.
I'm up to date on all my comic books.
It's good.
I've been up to date on Injection, which is a good one I bloody like.
I've recently started...
There was a sale on...
Speaking of Hellboy, there was a sale on, speaking of Hellboy,
there was a sale on a whole bunch of Mike Mignola stuff,
I think, on Comixology.
So I repurchased Hellboy in Hell Volumes 1 and 2,
which is the final Hellboy arc.
So I'm going to give those a reread because I haven't read that in a while.
So this is the original run.
That's correct.
How many issues in the original run roughly, do you know?
No idea.
100?
Less than that probably 200 no but no you it's like you listen to me said 100 and you ignored it yeah come on
that's what i did as long as we're on the same page uh what else um oh i'm up to date on i think
i've mentioned this before on the show spy seal Seal. New episode of Spy Seal. New issue of Spy Seal came
out. Are you saying Spy Seal or Spy Seal?
Spy Seal. He's a seal,
but he's also a spy. Like Perry the Platypus?
Yes, but it's also like Tintin.
If you liked Tintin as a kid, you should
read Spy Seal. Really? Nah, I hated it.
Did you really? He's a big dope.
Well, that's true. Look, in re-reading
Tintin as an adult...
He's very boring as a character.
But also he's a very bad role model for children
because he is constantly sort of running headlong into danger
and not dying just through sheer happenstance.
Yeah, exactly.
When he goes to America...
The gas, right?
Yeah, I would definitely mention this in the show,
but it gets me every time.
He's like a 14-year-old boy reporter, and he runs afoul of the Chicago mob.
Happens.
Who lock him into a room and fill it with nerve gas, deadly nerve gas.
Then they take his lifeless body and they throw it in the Chicago River,
and then they go back to their boss.
They forget about it.
They forget about it.
They go back to the boss, and the boss is like,
you gave him the wrong gas. You only gave him knockout gas that why do they even have knockout
i don't know they're the mob what do they have nerve gas yes where'd they get it and they're
like and he's like throwing him into the river what just wake him up so they go back to the
river to go get him but he gets the drop on him and he's and he just sticks his finger in their
back and goes i've got a gun give me your guns and they go okay and their back and goes, I've got a gun. Give me your guns. And they go, okay.
And then he's like, no, I've got two guns before I had no guns.
And then he kills them.
I don't know.
I can't remember what he does.
But first of all, they could have just nerve gassed you. Your heart would have shut down and your brain, you would have died.
And then even if you knew they were going to give you knockout gas,
if you get thrown into a river and you're unconscious,
you're just going to drown.
And then you're like, hey, I got a gun.
Why wouldn't they just turn around and shoot him?
He's avoided death three times there by sheer chance.
Yeah, just in the one comic as well.
And then later on in that same comic,
he's on the run from, I think, a tribe of Native Americans who want to kill him for some reason.
And then he just, he goes, he dives into a hole.
I bet they're very accurate portrayals of Native American culture.
You know, he got a lot less,
Hergé got a lot less racist as the series progressed.
Well, most people did, I think.
That's true.
Anyway, he dives into a hole and they board up the hole.
And then he's like, oh, I guess I'm trapped in this cave until I die.
Because I can either go out.
I can't go out that way.
But if I go out the other way, there's just a cliff.
This isn't a cave.
This is my house.
That's right.
And I've got a helicopter.
But then he just digs through a bit and then he strikes oil and he escapes in like a jet of oil.
What?
Yeah.
And he's rich. Yeah. Because he's got oil see i liked astrid and then a subsequent issue he gets shot with an in the in the in the tintin universe there's a there's
a like a toxin and if you get like shot with a dart of this toxin you go irreversibly mad okay
and then at one point he gets shot with the dart of it
and he's like, oh, I've gone mad.
Woo.
And then he's like, wait a minute, I haven't gone mad
because somebody just switched out the poison for water.
But he put himself in the position
where he could have been shot with a dart.
If you're putting water directly into your bloodstream,
that's probably fine.
That's probably fine.
I guess.
Yeah.
Anyway, you should read Spice Seal.
Because it's better than Tintin.
It's better than Tintin.
Did you ever see that Tintin movie? No, I never did. I heardin you'll love it oh but i didn't i was more of an asterix guy wow they're always beating up italians that's
what i'm about you know that about yeah i know that that's true also there's a just to be clear
i don't hate italians my wife is part italian which i guess means my son's italian i don't
like that but that's... Ah. Ah.
Mamma mia. Che disastro.
You know what I mean?
I know what you mean.
Very much so.
There's also, did you know
there's a Silver Surface series
that just wrapped up?
No.
It looks vintage.
It looks vintage, right?
It's Michael Allred who did Madman.
Madman?
No, not Mad.
Madman.
It was...
No, no, no.
You've got all this wrong.
Anyway, and Dan Slott who did a great run on The Thing many years ago, which I enjoyed. No, no, no. You've got all this wrong. Anyway, and Dan Slott, who did a great run on the thing many years ago,
which I enjoyed.
Anyway, this has apparently been quietly running for several years,
and I had no idea.
It's one of those ones that the creators get banked up on something else.
They just release an issue every four months or something.
It's one of those.
Apparently, it's really good, so I'm going to go back.
There's like 14 issues, so I'm going to go back and give that a read.
Chip away at it.
Yeah. Great. Great stuff. Mason, we saw Thor Ragnar good, so I'm going to go back. There's like 14 issues, so I'm going to go back and give that a read. Chip away at it. Yeah.
Great.
Great stuff.
Mason, we saw Thor Ragnarok, which we'll talk about next week.
Because it's not out in all parts of the world.
That's true.
But also, I borrowed a Nintendo Switch from my brother, because it turns out that I'm
probably going to America over the weekend, which is weird, to play Battlefront 2, I guess.
And then I'm going to come home.
You seem so sure of yourself and positive about it.
I don't know whether it's really going to happen.
And also, it seems like a real hassle for three days.
Sure, absolutely.
So you've been playing Super Mario Odyssey, I see.
Yeah, I bought it.
And you know what?
That system's pretty clever.
Like the whole setup.
Oh, sure, yeah.
Like just the way it works it's you
know the way the handheld and what and Claire and I were playing some bloody Super Mario Kart as
well which she never plays video games and she hates everything that I like including you yeah
that's fair yep no uh makes a lot of sense now that I think back on it but um it's Odyssey's
fun like I've only played it for like 20 or 30 minutes, but it's fun.
It reminds me a lot of Mario 64, which I played a little bit.
Does it feel Mario?
Oh, yeah.
Who are you fighting in it?
Bowser.
Oh, yeah.
There's a dinosaur briefly, a real big T-Rex.
Wario.
I haven't seen him yet.
I don't know if he pops up.
Okay.
You have to.
My hat's a ghost, Mason.
Sure.
In real life.
Help me.
What's the,
what's the in-story justification for the fact that your hat's a ghost?
You get beat up by Bowser and he tears your hat up.
Goes into a fan or something.
Oh,
so now it's a dead hat.
No,
but you land,
you land in a,
in a weird world and everyone's a ghost hat where they,
who lives there.
And then one of the ghost hats becomes your hat. And then what part of this do you not get you're looking to be puzzled yeah at the start i'm
like why is there a story in this so is it so it's they're all sorts of different hats no no it's one
hat but the hat can become different things i mean in the hat universe i don't know they're all they
look like top hats with eyes i was gonna say they're a top hat i don't know man they're all
top hats but there's a plumber's hat, a red plumber's hat.
No, no, because it turns into that when it helps you out.
Oh, interesting.
And then you throw it onto a goomba.
What's its natural state then?
A top hat.
This is like a scroll of hats.
A ghost with a top hat, with a big old white top hat.
And then it turns into a plumber hat.
Yes.
With an M on it.
Yes.
All right.
Mario's got surprisingly good hair.
Yeah.
I mean, it's hat hair hair but considering you never under normal circumstances
you'd assume he was bald
wouldn't you
like Bob Hoskins
exactly yeah
Hopskins
Bob Hopskins yes
Hopskins yes
very good
also just quickly on the topic of Thor
last week we did
for Thor Ragnarok
for Caravan of Garbage
we did a really terrible Hulk game
which was boring and terrible
no it wasn't
it was kind of fun
and this week we do a really terrible Thor game which was no fun which was boring and terrible. No, it wasn't. It was kind of fun. And this week we do a really terrible Thor game.
Which was no fun.
Which was just...
Just this...
Anyway, watch those.
God of War knockoff.
Ugh, really good.
Just shit ass.
Could have been good, I feel.
Could have been good, but it wasn't.
It wasn't good, though.
Yeah, so...
That's the trick there.
Yeah.
If something could be good, you should probably make it good.
Yeah, I feel so, that way, about that.
Mm-hmm.
You know what is good, Mason?
What's that?
Letters from our lovely listeners.
You should probably
play the letters theme.
You should.
Yep.
The classic one was
Letters, oh letters
We love you, some letters
They're only a day away
I know they're here right now,
we're going to do letters.
What is that face
you just put on?
You put on this wincing face,
you look to the sky.
You just stare at that light up there.
I was doing it, and then I realized it looked like a keyboard cat.
Oh, I see.
Remember keyboard cat?
Yeah, that's a very current reference.
That's very good.
Do you want to do your letter from the mailbag first?
Mason's a mailbag aficionado.
If you send him a letter, he'll definitely read it.
That being said, often when I go into there, they're all unread.
Well, actually,
that will continue this week
because this week,
I've taken the letter.
It's not even a letter.
It's from the Planet Broadcasting
Great Mates forum.
Oh, my God.
They didn't know
this was going to be in here.
While you're doing that,
I'm going to do a letter
because people go out of our way,
mates.
Oh, you're going to do a letter.
Okay.
Yeah, to send us a bloody letter.
Anyway, this is from Charlie Lloyd
on the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates forum.
He was listening to the Weekly Planet on the campus shuttle earlier this week
when this cute girl I'd been interested in for a while got on the bus
and sat down next to me.
Hello.
She asked what I was listening to and I answered casually,
Oh, it's an Australian comedy podcast.
She said, I love podcasts.
What's it called?
And literally took out a little notebook to write
down the name of the podcast an image of this girl hearing red hot comic book movie news shooting up
your butthole and then just being like yeah all right i guess he's a weirdo flashed through my
mind i panicked and said it's called do go on basically there are three comedians one of them
reads a report and the other two just sort of dick around for a bit so congratulations charlie
you've officially dogged the boys my friend that's what you've done we've got one rule here
on this podcast don't dog the boys don't be dogging the boys don't dog the boys mate
what have you done who dogged the boys charlie lloyd this fucking guy yeah right you know what
i get it yeah he made the right call well he says he thinks he made the right call he did
yeah but you've dogged the boys.
He's absolutely dogged the boys.
Yeah.
Anyway, that's a letter for this week.
You dogged the boys, mate.
Yeah.
I'm looking for...
Oh, wow.
This one starts with, Mason is a dirty liar.
It's from Nathan.
Last week, you guys read my question about James' poor attempt to avoid his hair dye store.
Oh.
Oh.
This guy gets two letters.
Should I continue with this?
Nah. burn him.
Okay.
You'll never know why it was a dirty line.
Mason said that that was my only question not true.
I asked for the context about the Las Vegas glassing story.
Should I really tell that story?
Nah, don't worry about it.
Anyway, a guy in my group got glassed in the face
because he was in a fight.
I didn't know him very well.
We got glassed.
Glass means hit in the head with a bottle or glass.
So now that guy forever has a big fucking scar down his face
because he got in a fight in a bar.
He's a wizard now.
Yeah, and a guy with a big scar down his face.
So basically, don't fight anybody in a bar.
Unless they've dogged the boys.
In a horrific manner, in which case.
I can't believe you, bloody.
This one says, saving Fassbender's career.
Over the past couple of years, Michael Fassbender's career. Okay.
Over the past couple of years, Michael Fassbender has been in a stream of mediocre bad films,
such as Alien Covenant, Assassin's Creed, X-Men Apocalypse, and most recently, The Snowman.
I've heard that's terrible.
It looks great.
I don't know anything about it, except all the memes, because apparently The Snowman
leaves a little...
He's like the saint.
He leaves a little snow...
A calling card.
A little calling card.
It's a little snowman.
A lot of people have built memes around it.
Is there a role in a franchise you'd like to see him play
and try and steer his career back on track,
like join Star Wars, the MCU,
or should he go back to doing more low-budget indie stuff?
I've heard he's not a very good bloke.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Okay.
That's from Jesse Newell.
What did you hear about that,
about him being a bad bloke in particular?
Probably hitting women or something.
I think that's his...
That's a big thing to throw out there.
I should probably look into it before I just...
You accuse a man of hitting women.
Speaking of The Saint,
apparently they attempted to make a The Saint series
maybe last year or this year.
They did?
Yeah.
Well, that's the thing.
And it didn't go through,
but they put the pilot on Netflix as like a movie.
Oh, who plays the saint?
Some rando.
Some rando.
Some rando British guy.
That sounds really good.
It's really bad.
It's no good.
I'm going to watch it.
It's not even good for TV.
Oh, wow.
Well, TV's so good now.
TV's the new comics or whatever.
It's got Eliza Dushku in it.
Okay, she's good.
Yeah, but I thought it'd be,
but it's not good.
It's not good.
There's not a girl saint. No, it's a man good. It's not good. There's not a girl saint.
No, it's a man saint.
It's a man saint.
It's a man saint.
But also, you know how the saint
traditionally leaves a calling card?
It's got the little...
Snowman, yeah.
It's got the stick figure man
with the halo on it, right?
He leaves a card with a stick figure on it
and it says the saint on it.
I thought you were going to say
he leaves a USB.
Oh, yeah.
That'd be so good.
It's got a paint file in oh yeah that'd be so good it's got it's got a it's got a paint
file in there it's just no that'd be great he leaves a snapchat on your phone that's garbage
just let him leave the calling card you don't need to update it in any anyway okay this is from
aaron spite spate oh on twitter uh hashtag weekly planet. That's how you reach us on Twitter.
Or WeeklyPlanetPod at gmail.com.
Or apparently the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates.
That's right.
If you want to dog the boys.
Yeah.
Unbelievable.
You have to choose.
The Punisher or Justice League.
What would it be?
You can only watch one.
Oh.
Justice League. You've never seen... Justice League.
You've never seen the Justice League live action. That's true, yeah.
I mean, you could always get the Punisher in Defenders 2 or whatever.
Or Daredevil Season 2.
Yeah.
So it's Justice League, right?
Yeah, it's Justice League.
Yeah, right.
Also, like, the Marvel Netflix...
I want to see him fight a big grey man in a big burning CGI landscape with lightning and smoke.
Can we please put that on the big screen?
I don't get it.
Yeah.
And preferably in 3D.
Yeah, no, definitely Justice League.
Yeah. Even though I genuinely don't know what way it's going to go.
Yep.
But obviously you've got to see Justice League.
Also alleged domestic violence.
Alleged.
Yep.
A lot of bad blokes at the moment.
Have you noticed that?
Yeah.
Or it's coming out.
So many.
We didn't talk about the Harvey Weinstein thing.
Into the bin.
What a fucking piece of shit.
What I don't get about that is, I don't think anybody's asked us for our opinion on this.
No, that's right.
But I don't believe that people didn't know because I'd heard things just on the internet.
You know what I mean?
Like in passing that he's like the worst bloke in the universe. Yeah do you not know that's well i think everybody did it's just they were
like yeah yeah it's all it's all don't believe women and it's all but if i say so because that's
the thing like the idea that like if you know a bad guy and you like call him out then you'll be
a big old hero but oftentimes if if- It's not that way.
Yeah, exactly.
Like a lot of the time if you have to be prepared,
if you're going to do it, you have to be prepared for the fact
that things are going to be really uncomfortable, you know,
for everybody and people are going to be like-
And you might not get work.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, that's like-
And the idea is you've got to do it anyway because otherwise, you know.
Like, you know, with Rose McGowan, how she, what's his name,
the guy who did Death Proof?
Ra Rodriguez.
Rodriguez, whatever.
He didn't do it.
He did the other one, Planet Terror or whatever.
Yep.
Like, he cast her in that to spite Weinstein.
That's right, yeah.
So he'd have to pay for her role and whatever, yeah.
Yeah, he's a, what a piece of shit.
And even the, like, when people are like, oh, he's, you know,
like, he's sad and depressed and he's, I don't, who cares? You fucked up so many people's lives, oh, he's sad and depressed. Who cares?
You fucked up so many people's lives.
That's right.
You just abused your power for 30 years.
And the people around you also aided in this.
Your assistants would bring people to your room or whatever.
Fuck all those people.
Seriously.
No good.
Into the bloody bin, mate.
Into the bin with all of them.
I mean, it's not a hard stance to take, is it?
It's true, yeah.
I just don't. Yeah. And look. Well, i look as long as we'll just clear house right now sure like it's not us
personally it's like if we can clear out a whole bunch of people from hollywood now yeah that'd be
good who else look i'll probably both the afflecks to be honest could very well be yeah as if as if
ben affleck doesn't know what his brother's up to most of the time.
Well, not only that,
then the Harvey Weinstein thing, apparently he knew.
Because there was that allegation.
Hey, man.
I mean, look, there is also the other side of it
that maybe you don't know the extent of it.
Maybe you know he's a sleaze and a creep,
which isn't as bad as raping somebody, obviously.
But you'd still want to distance yourself from a person like that.
Yeah, right, right.
Anyway.
Anyway, it's good we've ended this on a positive note.
No, we've got one more tweet.
Oh, great.
Josh Johnson sent us a lettuce.
We mentioned lettuce from last week.
It's a bit of a bloody callback.
Would you rather watch...
Hashtag weekly planet pod.
It's branding, Mason.
You know I can never not do it.
You know that, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Would you rather watch a George Lucas Transformas transformers or a michael bay star wars george
lucas transformers definitely yeah why uh because michael bay uh star wars would be excruciatingly
long and all the characters would be awful yeah it would be yeah no definitely he'd take existing
characters and ruin them at least with transformers i don't care if he ruins Cade Jaeger.
That's true, yeah.
I don't give a shit.
Yeah.
So, yeah, definitely.
I don't think George Lucas Transformers would be very good.
Oh, for sure, no.
But tolerable, I guess.
But I guess that being said,
all of Lucas' stuff is quite long as well.
Not as long.
No.
I think Attack of the Clones is the longest one i think and it's not it's not like transformers like nearly three hours that's true yeah yeah
yeah lucas all the way yeah michael bay into the into the bin mason is what you're saying
uh as a director yeah yeah yeah yeah i don't know if he's a decent guy or not but you know
just as a director into the bin i've heard he's into the he's a decent guy or not but you know just as a director under the bin
I've heard people
he's in the director bin
not the bad bloke bin
currently
we can transfer him over
depending on what we learn
it's like emptying
like your little bin in your office
into your regular bin
that's correct
that's what you do
yeah
that's the show for this week Mason
if you could wrap this up
oh yeah
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I would have done the same.
Yeah, same.
Exactly, yeah.
Well, I'm still, there's a reluctance.
I think if there was a cute girl on the shuttle and I wanted to impress her and she'd be like,
what's your podcast about?
I'd be like, it's called Do Go On.
It's about three.
My name's Dave Warnicky.
Yeah, I'm Dave Warnicky.
Yeah, I get it.
Well, I'm still very reluctant to tell people what I do.
There is a shame in this, Mason.
I'm not going to lie.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah, because I go, what's your YouTube?
You don't want to like it.
Because often I don't like it.
You know what I mean?
I disagree.
I think I bloody love it.
It's fine.
It's good fun.
It's better when it's not just me in a video, I feel,
because you can bounce off somebody.
Anyway, Mason, that's neither here.
As opposed to bouncing your bloody head off the wall.
Correct, Mason.
All right.
Next week, Thor.
Send us your thoughts if you've got any.
Your thoughts.
Thoughts.
Yeah.
Good one.
Thank you.
All right.
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