The Weekly Planet - 218 Big News Catch Up!
Episode Date: January 22, 2018We’re back for the first episode of 2018 to discuss all the latest news and everything that we missed!A Crocodile Dundee sequel, Ben Affleck is again in and/or out as Batman, date shifts for Deadpoo...l 2 and The New Mutants, The Wasp’s new costume, Wolverine joining the MCU, new Flashpoint directions, Black Widow getting a solo movie and the return of Superman’s jocks.Plus other things it’s been three weeks.Weekly Planet Live Show: https://www.trybooking.com/book/event?eid=344533Wynter Dark: https://goo.gl/NKSX5bSteele Wars Live Show: https://goo.gl/bKdQFQ0:00 The start of the podcast1:54 Crocodile Dundee 48:20 Indy 511:30 All male cut of The Last Jedi12:07 New Mutants/Deadpool 2 update12:40 Han Solo trailer date13:56 The Wasp costume18:42 Tomb Raider trailer24:03 DC Movie News BATMAN, FLASH, HARLEY QUINN34:59 Cloverfield 338:48 Black Widow movie41:11 Gambit news43:24 Tom Holland in Venom movie47:19 Wolverine in the MCU51:02 Superman has his jocks56:54 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:30:45 Letters It’s Time For Letters1:32:45 - 1:36:10 The Last Jedi spoilersAmazon affiliate link: https://amzn.to/33iJQadThe Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind out T-Shirts here: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet
where we talk movies and comics and TV shows.
My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday.
With me is always my co-host, Nick Mason.
We're back, baby.
It's good to be here.
It is good to be here.
Did you miss me?
Bear in mind, tell the truth, but if you say no,
I'll be really sad and sulky the whole episode.
Well, we didn't...
We caught up.
Wow.
This really, really cuts deep, man.
It's not like I didn't see you.
No, that's true.
I saw you too much, if anything.
Oh, I'll take it.
I'll take it as a compliment.
I don't know why I'm going to turn this down.
It's so loud.
Why is everything so loud, Mason?
Because we're excited about stuff.
The new year.
Well, that's the thing, Mason.
Because it's the new year and because we've been off for a few weeks,
there's a bunch of news that's backed up.
So what we thought this episode would be, it's our backed up episode.
We're all backed up.
We're backed up to the eyeballs.
Correct.
With news.
With a whole bunch of news.
And so we go through that and just the kind of stuff that we, you know,
kind of caught up on over the break.
We're banked up to the back teeth with the sewerage
that is Red Hot Comic Book Movie News.
Correct.
And sponsorships.
Oh, yeah, those things as well.
Great.
Should we get into it?
Yeah, let's talk about it.
I think this is the most requested thing that people want us to talk about.
It's the potentially real Dundee, Crocodile Dundee 4 sequel.
I was on Tenderhooks.
I didn't know what you were going to go with there.
I'm surprised the interest that people had in this.
I guess it's because we are Australian.
Yep.
I am.
You are.
Yes, correct.
We are Australian.
So I guess people want to know our opinions on it.
First of all, do you have opinions on the trilogy,
on the classic Dundee trilogy?
I barely remember any of it.
Right.
I remember more stuff from probably Reckless Kelly
than I do the Crocodile Dundee movies.
You remember more things from Lightning Jack?
Oh, no, I'd say it's on par.
Lightning Jack, Crocodile Dundee.
Yeah, yeah, right.
See, I saw the second one first,
so apparently that one's not as good,
but that's the one that I like the most.
That's the one where he takes the love interest back to Australia?
Yes.
Okay, right.
And the first one is the opposite of that.
And then the third one is a rehash of the first one, right?
The third one, he goes to Los Angeles and he trades lines and shit.
I don't know.
It's not good.
It's not good at all.
So this is like 30 seconds.
Yeah.
Maybe.
Yep.
Danny McBride.
Yep.
As the son.
Also, Crocodile Dundee has a son.
He has a son called Mikey Dundee. Really? From Crocod crocodile dundee has a son he has a son called mikey dundee
from crocodile dundee three okay right but this guy three is always the one where they introduce
a son isn't it it is blues blues brother what was blues brother 2000 that was two that was two yeah
who cares whose son was that my theory's immediately been destroyed but i don't care
back to the future three there we go jewels and Jules and Vern. Yeah, right. Yeah.
Okay, let me think about this for a second. Ninja Turtles 3.
Yep.
Their son, Japan.
Yes.
Do you remember that?
Their illegitimate son, Japan.
So, assuming for a second that this is real, it has a synopsis, right?
And here's what it is.
It's real in the sense it's been filmed with cameras.
Correct.
Crocodile Dundee is back.
Well, actually, he's missing in the Outback,
probably for tax evasion.
And the only person who might be able to find him is...
Yeah, he's in the bloody Cayman Islands, mate.
That's where he is.
It's his loudmouth American son no one knew he had.
Introducing Danny McBride as Brian Dundee,
this son of a legend is forced to channel his Aussie roots
as he embarks on the ultimate adventure in the land down under.
It's time to live up to the family name. Is this is this real i don't think it is here's the thing like you what were
you saying before it's not real but i bet it could be real you're saying at some point it might be
it might become real yeah right okay there's speculation that it could be a teaser for an
upcoming super bowl commercial yeah okay like a beer ad yeah because this is supposed to come out
summer that's what i say which so i have i. Yeah, because this is supposed to come out summer.
That's what I say.
I get the feeling that this is one of those things
that once we're going to speculate on this like idiots
for a couple of minutes and then before the episode comes out,
they're going to reveal what it is and it's going to be completely...
It's a viral marketing campaign for tourism or fostering or something.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
That's what I think it is.
I think this is an ad for Tourism Australia.
Yeah, right.
Because we looked at the...
We did some investigation.
We did some investigation.
You wanted to look at the source code behind the website.
The page source.
As if you were going to find anything.
You just never...
Sometimes there's a clue.
There was no clues.
Well, I mean...
Okay, here's the thing.
You need a fucking clue, mate.
How about that?
Sometimes there's a clue for people who are much smarter than us.
Right.
Like, sometimes there's a clue.
There'll be like a sequence of numbers. then that relate you know that turns into morse
code and then you play the morse code and it's it's land down it's land down i was gonna say
it's land down under by men at work and then that relates but i yeah i think what it is is it's an
ad because it's a if you look at the website there's like a real australian production company
it's screen australia australia and I think it's an ad for Tourism Australia.
Yeah.
Because we've had some rough...
Some trying times for Tourism Australia.
I would say Australian PR has taken a hit recently.
We used to be like,
hey, we're a bunch of laid-back, lovable larrikins.
Yeah.
And now it's like...
A lot of us are racist.
A racist.
And now Great Barrier Reef is disintegrating
because of all the coal mining.
But yeah, I think what it is.
The last campaign was like, hey, where are you?
Yeah.
What the fuck?
You sons of bitches.
It was real aggressive.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What are you, losers?
Yeah.
But I think what this is, because what does it say?
Again, he has to explore.
He has to go through.
I assume that he grew up in New York,
so Crocodile Dundee had a bit of a love affair,
which also doesn't sit well with me for the mythos of the Mick Dundee character.
Right.
He's not a cheater.
That's right.
Or is he?
And he got his dick blown off in Vietnam,
so he can't father any kids.
Where's this Mikey come from?
Good question.
I don't know.
I think this is, because it says something like, Brian Dundee, Mick Dundee is missing somewhere in Australia
and Mikey Dundee, and Brian Dundee has to go and find him.
It sounds to me like it's going to be a series of videos
where he goes to waterfalls and he goes to the Red Centre
and he goes to the Outback and he goes to Queensland and whatever.
It would be the perfect place to shelve it as well.
Yeah, right.
It's like you get the most eyes on it when you see it at Super Bowl.
Exactly.
And with Danny McBride.
And Danny McBride.
All eyes on McBride, you know what I mean?
Also, he's filming something else at the moment.
And there are behind the scenes.
I can't believe I'm still talking about this.
There's behind the scenes images, but it's all from.
Guys, this is going to be an hour and 40 minutes of us talking about the Dundee trailer.
There's.
No stone will be unturned.
10 things you missed about it. 10 things you missed about it.
100 things you missed about it.
But the only behind the scenes footage is Danny.
You know what it is?
It's the pattern of him swinging the knife.
Yeah, right.
Draw it out.
It's a constellation.
Go to that constellation.
Look down.
Yep.
There's the secret.
Dig.
You'll find the secret.
But it's, what was I going to say?
I can't remember.
Danny McBride. Yeah. So the only behind the scenes images is from just the shot that they had. you'll find the secret but it's uh what was i gonna say i can't remember danny mcbride yeah
so the only behind the scenes images is from just the shot that they had and then there's like an
aerial shot of a car going through like a jungle or forest or whatever okay so that speaks to what
you're talking about can you move your mic back a little bit no very good i did though you did
yeah well done thank you yeah look in all honesty, do another one.
Why not?
Sure, exactly.
Do you care?
Is it something that's tarnished and it's sacred ground?
It's absolutely sacred ground.
No, do another one.
Who cares?
Do a fun Danny McBride one.
But he is filming something else at the moment, or he has been.
So there's no way they shot a two-hour film on this.
Or maybe they did.
I mean, I guess you could do it undercover in Australia because nobody's keeping an eye
on anything here.
That's true.
Yeah.
And we've all been so busy.
I can't think of anything we've been doing.
Aussie Christmas.
Aussie Christmas.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
That'll do it.
Here's another icon, Mason, with a hat.
Spielberg's next film looks like it might be-
I thought you were going to say Spielberg's neck.
Here's another icon with a hat.
Spielberg's neck. Here's another icon with a hat. Spielberg's neck.
There's a neck, and then there's some miscellaneous stuff,
and then there's a hat.
There's a hat.
That's it.
Spielberg's next film looks like it will be Indiana Jones 5.
Yes.
Released at...
Yes?
I have hope for it.
I don't know.
I think we've learned some lessons in the last decade or so.
Yeah, I agree.
Just take another run at it.
Who cares? I mean, it's already... Mick Dundee it, man Yeah, I agree. Just take another run at it. Who cares?
I mean, it's already...
Mick Dundee it, man.
Yeah, you blew it.
Just have another go.
Who cares?
It's like with alien films.
Just keep making them.
Yeah, you're going to hit a good one eventually.
You know what?
Let's all live in a world where we can just discount the ones we don't like.
Yeah, exactly.
It's irrelevant.
That's exactly it.
July 10, 2020 is when that's coming out.
Too far away.
I know, but films take a while, Mason.
It is 2018.
It's not that far away.
Oh, yeah, good point.
Yeah, but you'll be dead by then.
But West Side Story is the other film that he's working on.
It's all the poison you put in my water every week.
Correct.
Well, joke's on you.
I take precisely one sip every week and then pour the rest down the sink.
You're getting some kind of Princess Bride-style immunity.
Mm-hmm.
Very good.
That's right.
So he's doing this and he's doing West Side Story.
Okay.
Which would you prefer to see?
Indiana Jones.
Agreed.
Who cares about West Side Story?
Come on, it's a classic musical.
I actually saw it once in a school production.
I'll tell you this much.
It was fucking terrible.
I really didn't enjoy it.
But there was a point where one of the background dancers took a leap
and their foot got caught on a prop and they just like hit the deck
nice i mean i felt bad but here's a question for you and this is this is why i always enjoy hearing
about this uh in the school production were there any ethnic characters but they didn't have any
ethnic children so they had to bring they did just use white yes correct that's a big problem
in australia do you remember when we saw that play? I don't remember. What was it?
It was Rent.
It was Rent.
An Asian guy.
Was playing the black guy.
And he dropped the N word and everyone just went,
I don't know.
Because he was playing Tyrone.
But that was the closest they could get to a black guy in Melbourne
at the time was an Asian guy.
So they were like, that'll do.
Call him something else and have him say.
Use another slur.
Yeah.
We've got so many.
That's right.
Anyway, Indiana Jones 5.
Have another run in it?
Yes.
Okay, good.
Nice.
Bring Connery back.
I don't know where he is.
Has he gone mad in the Scottish Highlands?
Probably, yeah.
Maybe send someone to look for him.
Send the son of Sean Connery, maybe send someone to look for him send the son
of sean connery yeah indiana jones to look for his father he's gonna say he's tax evading father
for his wife beating father a bit too close to home to home yeah what if it's what if what if
mcbride now he's he's decided he's discovered his money maker yeah he just pretends to be the son of
iconic action heroes and then he just doesn't add for tourism in that country so he pretends to be the son of iconic action heroes and then he just does an ad for tourism in that country.
So he pretends to be Sean Connery's son.
Yeah, exactly.
Hanging out in Scotland.
He pretends to be K-9, that dog.
That weird German cop show dog.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Was that what that was called?
He pretends to be the bridge in whatever Finnish drama
about depression and suicide and cops.
Anyway, we'll talk about this briefly.
There's an all-male cut of The Last Jedi.
It's 46 minutes long or something?
46 minutes from a men's right activist.
Great.
I'm kind of fascinated to see it, if only to see if it makes any sense.
Because I bet it doesn't.
I bet it doesn't.
Well, because I very quickly skimmed what was cut out of it.
I'm like, narratively, this doesn't make sense.
Also, just don't watch it.
Just do something else.
You know what I mean?
There's a lot of people that don't like it.
That's fine.
It's another podcast you can listen to for 47 minutes.
That's right.
Next thing.
Okay.
I don't have anything else to say about that, but you're an idiot.
New Mutants was pushed
back to 2019 apparently it's not scary enough that's the rumor because it's supposed to come
out this year and deadpool 2 has been moved up to may 18th because it's too scary it's too scary i
want to get it out of the way get out of the way and that's a week before the han solo solo film
it feels like a lot of competitors are sort of circling their wagons around the solo movie
yeah as if to be like we're gonna destroy you yeah we've we're sick to death of this uh this
this stranglehold that star wars has on the movie industry so we're gonna destroy you absolutely
the question is mason where's the trailer haven't seen anything have we i'm gonna edit this out if
i'm not allowed to say this okay but it's super bowl like i can i heard from somebody
who's who is in the know who said it's a hundred percent the super bowl refresh my memory when is
the super like feb 5th so okay i'll cut that out if if i have to because i'll ask if i can but no
that's when it's going to come out i think with the solo trailer i think that what they've been
doing for these star wars trailers rogue one and the Last Jedi, not so much Force Awakens,
they wait until people are screaming for it to be released and then they wait a little bit more.
Openly weeping.
They're in mourning.
They're wearing all black and a veil.
Correct.
They're like, where's Solo?
Have you noticed that's the way it's been going with these films, though?
It'll be.
They're never like, oh, here it is.
They always really push it.
And even though it's out in May, they can still go Feb. They can ramp it up from there. I mean, who knows if it's going always they really push it and even though it's out in may you know they can they can still go feb they can ramp it up from there if they i mean you know who knows if it's going to
work out but i think that's a that's a legitimate strategy also if you release it around that time
that i said earlier mason you get all the eyes on it possible that's true yeah and also you can
just get people who have seen who are still seeing the last jedi yeah they're just going to jump over
there's a jump of cinema over they'll be like oh last jedi's finally stopped screening what do i see now hans all over exactly
what fun mason what fun what fun uh did you see the wasp costume uh yes people demanded that we
talk about it uh-huh uh do you ever do you want to bring it up on your phone just quickly see if
you notice anything about it i'm sweaty like it's I mean, it's always hot, but bloody hell.
Yeah.
And I mean, you defused that bomb with one second spare.
I did, yeah.
So, whoosh.
I wasn't going to bring it up because I didn't want to, you know,
throw off the program or anything.
No, I understand.
Sure, yeah.
Anyway, the wasp costume, the chest part looks a bit like a dick.
So, I don't think it's intentional.
No.
Yeah, so you have to look at it upside down.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And a lot of people
like why isn't more why isn't it more brilliantly colored like isn't it you know when i think of the
wasp you know there's a lot more yellow to the costume but i think if you did that the dick would
be much more apparent so they had a choice to make there yeah they were like do we do we do we pay the
sculpt guy again or do we pay the paint guy again also it's in line with the 1960s costume we saw in the last movie
and the Ant-Man colouring.
So maybe they'll get more kind of coloured as it kind of goes along.
And again, thus far, no Marvel movie costume has really been set in stone.
No, that's right.
Like Captain America's had a different costume every movie.
The Ant-Man helmet changes.
Exactly, yeah.
Willy-Milly Mason.
Yeah, exactly.
Willy-Milly.
Nice.
You get it.
I get it.
I forgot to ask if you've seen this, but have you seen the new Tomb Raider trailer?
No.
It's the same.
It's just Tomb Raider.
Great.
Got a caravan of garbage coming up this week for Tomb Raider.
That's right, we do.
Something very...
It's so weird.
Very strange.
Yeah, so that'll be out Tuesday.
A little relic, if you will.
Yeah, it's like a 20-year-old relic. It's not a game. Yeah. Let's put it that way, but it's so weird. Very strange. Yeah, so that'll be out Tuesday. A little relic, if you will. Yeah, it's like a 20-year-old relic.
It's not a game.
Let's put it that way, but it's very weird.
It's literally a relic.
We found it.
It glows.
Makes us feel funny when we look at it.
Yeah.
Urge to kill rising.
Correct.
You know, we keep it around.
It's warm.
It's warm, right?
It's warm in here, isn't it?
It's a warmth that could really only be alleviated by murder.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I just meant it's physically warm, like it exudes heat.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
Like there's something trapped in it.
I don't know.
Yeah, look, what we should do, we should wait until it's really late at night.
Yeah, yeah.
And then we should just crack it open.
Okay.
Yeah.
Then we eat what's inside.
Nice.
Maybe it's nougat.
Ooh.
Maybe it's ants.
Anyway, it's got a new trailer.
It's fine.
I don't know how this is going to go.
Maybe this is going to be the good one, Mason.
I've made proclamations about good video game movies before,
and I've been wrong.
So I'm not rolling the dice on this.
You know what I am?
It's shit.
I don't know.
I don't know.
What do you think?
A lot of people have messaged us.
A lot of people have emailed and tweeted.
And a lot of people have put up posts in the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates group on Facebook.
And they've said, has Jumanji broken the curse of every video game movie being a bad video game movie?
Exactly.
It's not worth it.
It's video games.
It's like Wreck-It Ralph.
I recently watched it and I enjoyed it.
Oh, really?
I haven't seen it.
Yeah.
It's good.
Yeah.
I've heard it's a bit of a fun time.
And it's made like $700 million worldwide.
Yeah, allegedly.
What does that mean?
No, it has.
Oh, it has.
I don't know.
Do you think maybe Kevin Hart just bought $700 million worth of tickets?
He could very well.
Because he could, yeah.
Yeah, he absolutely could.
Let's move our mics back a little bit, Mason.
Oh, even further?
Yeah, I don't know about this.
Wow, all right.
I'm still getting used to it.
I want to get some new expensive mics, but they're four or five hundred bucks each and then i'm like then i
have to get three because if you get a guest yeah or we can just give the bad one to levens or
whatever if he comes on for sure yeah or whatever uh-huh hope you're listening levens because you've
reached that point of like being a a youtube guy yeah where you're now like and you've been doing
it for so long that you now hear every minuscule tiny little thing and i'm not even good at it
but i can still hear it a little bit.
Speaking of people who are good at YouTube,
can we talk about Logan Paul at all?
Yeah, we can.
We're going to have to.
No, fine.
What do you think?
What an idiot.
What an idiot, right?
I mean, he'll be fine.
He's already bouncing back.
He's got his clothing line.
He's got his dumb haircut.
What is he?
What were you thinking?
I cannot. how do you
live in a world where none of the people around you said hey don't post a video of a dead body
on the internet don't go to a place called the suicide forest yeah specifically to find relics
of dead people artifacts of dead people and then be surprised when you find one and wear a minion's hat and then
video put it on video and then upload it to youtube i find it very hard to believe that he
went into that forest thinking that something like that wouldn't happen and he would make that video
yeah right and it's funny because i've seen the video like the full thing because other people
re-upload it and it's at the start he's like you've never seen anything like this before on youtube yeah because no one else is dumb enough to do it yeah it's and just the message is twisted
you know kind of like hey don't kill yourself and he's sniggering in front of the body and
everyone has different reactions to death yeah you know watching someone die or seeing a dead
body is horrendous and people obviously react in different ways but edit that out yeah edit the
stuff out while you're laughing about it.
Yeah, yeah.
And again, it's a celebrity thing where there's going to be people
who are like, all these people are just haters.
They're just jealous that they didn't find a dead body.
Mate, you couldn't give me a billion dollars to be in that guy's body.
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
To live that lifestyle.
It seems exhausting.
Exactly.
Every day.
Every day, bro.
Every day, bro. Every day, bro.
I don't know.
I think maybe it's just because we're old, you know?
But I think also, I think there's a risk to blowing...
Wait, we're old?
Yeah, we're old.
Sorry.
What?
What?
Well, you know what?
I knew I was old.
I was visiting Claire's family home today, and I was out in the street, and there were some guys playing cricket. They were probably like 19, 20, and one of them rung the bottle low, knew I was old. I was visiting Claire's family home today and I was out in the street
and there were some guys playing cricket.
They were probably like 19, 20
and one of them rung the bottle.
And I was putting my kid in the car.
So that's already like,
they're probably thinking like,
look at this old prick or whatever.
But one of them goes,
hey, I got John on the phone for the bottle.
That's a bottle shop or grog shop.
Liquor store.
Liquor store.
Thank you.
And what do you want?
He goes, yeah, just get me the cheapest six pack
of bourbon and cola
or whatever it is.
Yeah, right.
And I'm like, I remember that.
Just be like, just get me the cheapest thing.
Yeah.
Don't drink that.
Now I only drink fine wines, Mason.
Ugh.
Yeah.
Anyway, Logan Paul's an idiot.
Yeah.
But I just think that, no, blowing up I think is not a good way to get famous
because I don't think it's sustainable.
No, right. Do you know who Tobuscus is?
No.
Do you know who Ray William Johnson is?
You could just be saying random syllables.
Okay, so these are people who used to be like YouTube celebrities and whatever.
And look, these guys, the Paul brothers have reached a height that nobody ever has.
But I just find it hard to, unless you've evolved,
and maybe they're smart enough to do that.
I just don't think it's sustainable.
Anyway, those last two guys, I don't know what they're doing.
I think one of them quit and the other one did something horrible.
I can't remember.
Anyway.
Terrific.
Do you want some DC news?
Yeah.
We've got some Flash directors for the, maybe it's the Flashpoint movie.
It scribes John Francis Daly and Jonathan Goldstein.
You may know them as the writers of Spider-Man Homecoming.
Do you know them as that?
I don't know them. Well, now I do. For this brief shining moment, that's how I'm going to know them as the writers of Spider-Man Homecoming. Do you know them as that? I don't know them.
Well, now I do.
For this brief shining moment, that's how I'm going to know them.
And then if you ever mention them again, you're going to have to reintroduce them to me.
They also directed the Vacation movie.
The new one. Oh, the new one.
Okay.
With Dan Helms, yeah.
I just think it's...
Did anyone watch that?
I've seen it.
It's totally fine.
Great.
I heard it was garbage.
I'm like, this is...
I mean, you've got to remember also, not all those all those vacation movies or even the good ones are that good yeah well exactly yeah
you know what i mean yeah i mean they're good especially for the time that have you seen vegas
vacation no i've never seen vegas we've seen the one where it's just the uncle or the weird no
you know what i think this is though i think i've seen European I think I've seen the first one
I've seen European
and Christmas
not Vegas
yeah
yeah
but I think they're
looking for
their Russo brothers
it's a comedy duo
yeah right right
I think that's what
DC are like
let's
I know they're saying
they don't want to
copy a formula
again they've
movie producers
of all this
they've taken the
wrong lesson
whatever it is.
Okay, these Marvel movies have been successful.
What was it?
Well, it must be two directors.
Yes, it's two directors who did comedy because Russo Brothers did
Me, You and Dupree and Community.
And so you wouldn't think that they'd be right for Avengers 4
and Civil War and Winter Soldier.
Look, Spider-Man Homecoming's got a good script from what I saw of it.
I did see it.
It was good, but I don't know.
I don't know how this is going to go.
It could be great.
One of them was actually one of the kids
in Freaks and Geeks.
Those guys are getting around, aren't they?
Seth Rogen.
One of them's Seth Rogen.
Oh.
No, no, no, no.
Affleck.
Schrodinger's bat.
Can you say that again?
Schrodinger's bat? Thank you that again? Schrodinger's Bat
thank you
I haven't said it in a while
he may be in or out Mason
apparently they wanted him
for the Flashpoint movie
oh yeah
and the rumour is
that well he didn't do it
that's not a rumour
also those directors
aren't confirmed
but he's probably not doing it
his last role
will either be
as Batman
will be in Suicide Squad 2
or Flashpoint
and the story also
goes allegedly warner brothers have soured on him and jake gillenhall is ready to step up oh my
goodness i think we may have also talked about before yeah it's i feel he's always ready to
step up he's got that attitude he's got a can-do attitude of a man he's always ready to step up
he'll lose some weight he'll gain some weight yep. He's the Prince of Persia, he's the Nightcrawler.
He does it all.
He can be oily or greasy.
He can be oiled and tanned.
He can be greasy and pale.
How long do you want his hair?
It's got to have a bit of length on it to be greasy.
A little bit of length, yeah, that's true, yeah.
He's always in like, he's always on the bench.
He's just in the, he's like, I'm ready to go.
I'll be in anything. I'm gre to go. I'll be in anything.
I'm greased up.
I'll slip right into that suit.
I think he'd be...
We've talked about it before.
I think he'd be a good Batman.
Yep.
I think...
I think Affleck had...
Batman's not terrible.
Justice League, it's not great.
Again, it's just the suit.
Yeah.
He just has the best looking suit, in my opinion.
But I think he's good in Batman Superman. I, it's just the suit. Yeah. He just has the best looking suit, in my opinion. But I think he's good in Batman Superman.
I think it's a good performance.
But he clearly, he does, just let him go.
Just let him go.
Just let him go.
He wants to be out.
He wants to be out.
What I think will happen.
Let him do, let him, let him get, give it to Gyllenhaal and, or Gyllenhaal, or however
you pronounce it.
And then.
Maggie Gyllenhaal.
Thank you.
And in a few years he can do like remember when Thomas
Jane did that Punisher mini movie yeah right whenever he's like oh I've got the urge to do it
just give him a little a little short film where he's in a like a regular three-piece suit and he's
got slicked hair and he looks like Bruce Wayne and he does some Bruce Wayne-y stuff and he could
be Batman or maybe he's not you know know what? Give him a cameo in Arrow
but don't give him a name.
Yeah, yeah.
There you go.
But no, I think, you know,
just there needs to be some changes
and if he's not 100% on board,
maybe just let it go.
Just let it go.
Yeah.
Gotham City's...
Just whisper in his ear,
just let it go, mate.
Just let it go.
Have a drink.
Yes.
Smoke a durry.
Sit on a bench and look sad.
Spend some more time with your kid.
Come on, mate.
That's nice, yeah.
Gotham City Sirens is apparently on hold.
And that's going to be that Harley Quinn all-female team-up movie.
And the next Harley Quinn film will be Birds of Prey, Suicide Squad,
and then Joker versus Harley.
So we've got some Harley Quinn.
I don't know if it was an accurate portrayal in Suicide Squad,
but it's a very annoying character.
Oh, for sure, yeah.
You know, like I don't think it fully translates from the animated.
I think it works in the animated and the voice works in the animated.
You bring that over, just someone that shrill, just like screaming. I'm not sure it works. I think you need to over just someone that shrill just like screaming i'm
not sure it works i think you need to maybe just turn it down a little bit am i wrong in that in
saying that oh but then because it is an exaggerated cartoon world and obviously comic
movies are but i don't know just just a thought but if you if you tone it down too fast you're
just boring right yeah no absolutely i think there's a i think there's a there's some there's
you find that that sweet spot i don't know what it is and I might be wrong.
Maybe it will work, but I don't know.
I just thought it's accurate, but I don't know whether that's a good thing is what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Do you want to see three or four Harley Quinn movies?
No.
Do you want to see Joker versus Harley?
No.
What if it's not Jared Leto?
What if it's Affleck as Joker?
No. What if it's not Jared Leto? What if it's Affleck as Joker? No.
Oh.
What if there's a clause in his contract that he missed over where he's like, you have to
do three Batman movies, but if you don't, if you slip out somehow, you have to do a
Joker movie.
And his lawyer's like, his lawyer and his agent are like, okay, you're out Affleck.
Yes.
You've got to do a Joker movie though. And he's like what you gotta shave your eyebrows off oh suicide squad remember they all
tattooed squat on each other yeah good stuff we did a commentary didn't we yes it's movies fine
it's fine yeah it's fine absolutely i'd put it i'd put a tattoo on for that. Yeah, sure. A tattoo.
FX Is The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies
on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London.
One woman has a secret.
The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost.
FX Is The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.
Cloverfield 3 is a viral site.
You're a fan of Cloverfield 1.
Yes.
You're a fan of Cloverfield 2.
Yep.
I think I like 2 better.
I was saying this to Matthew who does some editing for us, Mason.
Oh, yes.
Good dude.
He's a big fan of Cloverfield films.
I think the first one was kind of spoiled for me
because they're like, what's the secret?
What is it?
It's just a monster.
It's just a big monster.
It's not a big deal.
That didn't need to be a mystery.
It's a monster smashing up a city.
That's okay.
I'd still see that.
But where's it from?
We don't know.
Space.
They didn't explain it.
No, it's either from space or under the ocean.
Or both.
It's very vague.
Halfs from space, halves from the ocean.
They glum together. If you read the anime. I will not space or under the ocean. Both. It's very vague. Halfs from space, halves from the ocean. They clung together.
If you read the anime.
I will not.
Not the anime.
The manga.
Oh, read that.
Sure.
If you read the manga, it's from deep in the ocean.
But if you just watch the movie, it appears to be from space.
Could you say the meteor land?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, good.
But if you read the manga, the meteor, a satellite falls from space and it hits the thing under the ocean
somehow okay i gotcha is that slasho yeah is it the same universe as the two no i don't think so
okay what's going on i don't know anyway viral three's coming out on april 18th of 2018 oh that's
very soon we haven't seen anything of it anyway by the way i'm sick of viral sites and being like
to code the message just give us a trailer come on no you've got to check that source code though well i didn't
here's somebody else decoded it see i'm not crazy no no this was a thing where you went there and
it was an actual message that you could decode it wasn't you didn't go to the source code you
think you're johnny lee miller from hackers mate you're not yeah you look at my look at my weird
look at my weird george clutie like weird caesar bowl cut look what i. Look at my weird George Clooney, like, weird Caesar bowl cut.
Look what I got.
Look at my leather jacket, but I'm not wearing a shirt underneath it.
So weird.
I'm wearing rollerblades.
I'm rollerblading around the man cave.
Regular room.
Okay, Tokyo, July 18th, 2018.
Togaruto has begun development on a revolutionary new energy technology
in what CEO Gary Yoshida called, this is boring as,
I didn't think it would be this boring, it's very boring,
called a technological great leap forward for our planet.
This renewable technology will take at least four years to complete
along with another six years of international regulatory bodies
to bring the powerful revolutionary energy source by April 10th, 2028.
Okay, so I didn't proofread this at all before,
but basically it's an energy source.
Yes.
Well, what a...
Great.
I'm glad somebody went to the trouble of decoding that.
That's a thrill and a half.
Next thing.
Do you have anything to say?
I want to see it, but that's bad.
I don't care.
I feel the thing you've mentioned, the Tagaruto something something,
I feel that's in the manga.
I feel it is.
So I think, okay.
That's how you feel, is it?
That's how you feel, Mason.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The original Cloverfield got a lot more of a push
because there was another viral thing that happened at the same time
and people linked them both together.
No, it was just for like an online game oh what was it it was called sim city no
no i'll look it up later but it wasn't related it was unrelated yeah
all right anyway i don't like any of this viral stuff okay great you love it though no no i
you're not you're not listening you're not listening. Anyway, you're still looking at that thing?
Yeah.
Did you find anything?
Well, there's another website.
Oh, yeah.
Why don't you go to it and use your rollerblades to work out what's going on.
God Particle.
Okay.
Pretty good.
I like the idea of these are like self-contained stories.
Yeah.
What do you think about the idea that they're all, maybe they're parallel universe and maybe
they'll all link together somehow?
Yeah, that's fine.
And I think you could, you don't ever have to tie them in together.
Yep.
Or you don't have to definitively say whether they are or they aren't.
Yeah.
Maybe like Black Mirror did or didn't, which we can talk about.
We can talk about it later maybe.
There's a Black Widow movie happening.
Okay.
There you go.
I acted like I was surprised there, but I'm not surprised.
You knew.
Jack Schaefer.
He's going to be Black Widow.
Yes. I was surprised there but I'm not surprised you knew Jack Schaefer he's going to be Black Widow he's writing it yes
she
last thing she wrote
was Olaf's
Frozen Adventure
that short film
that I think
went at the start of Coco
and then they removed it
because people hated it
oh really
I'm not saying that's her fault
but it could be
maybe they're just sick
to death of Olaf
could be
who was the snowman
yeah
okay
you ever seen Frozen
no
Tangled's better
but Black Widow movie there you go they're finally rolling it out she was first introduced in Iron Man in 2000 could be who was the snowman yeah okay you ever seen Frozen no Tangled's better but
Black Widow movie
there you go
they're finally rolling it out
she was first introduced
in Iron Man 2 in 2010
in a pivotal player
in the Avengers film
the Winter Soldier
Civil War
Lucy
Red Sparrow
that Jennifer Lawrence
one that's coming out
yep
Ghost World
Ghost World
it's all part of it
Ghost in the Shell
obviously these are all
part of the Black Widow
reverse.
So, what do you think?
What direction
are they going to go?
Are they going to make
a sad assassin backstory?
Oh, God, I hope not.
I hope it's just a fun
espionage film.
Well, it won't be that.
It'll be sad.
I don't want it to be sad.
You'll see a uterus
get pulled out or whatever.
I don't want that at all.
That weird subplot
they put in Age of Ultron.
Oh, I don't like that.
Yeah.
No. Put Hawkeye in it too. Yeah, I think so. I think that'd be a great team upplot they put in Age of Ultron. Oh, I don't like that. No.
Put Hawkeye in it too.
Yeah, I think so.
I think that'd be
a great team up.
If they do,
Hawkeye will be the only one
who doesn't have a solo movie?
Well, it depends.
What are your tiers of Avengers?
How far do you go?
You know what I mean?
Do you count Falcon?
Falcon, War Machine.
War Machine, you know.
Yeah.
I'm thinking original recipe Avengers.
Sure.
Like the original team.
Yeah, no, I think they'd be a like the original team yeah no I think
they'd be a good team up
yeah
I think her best film
is Winter Soldier
I think they're a really
good kind of team
I would like to see
a Hawkeye romcom
oh yeah
it's like a date night
kind of scenario
but his wife's alive
that's what I'm saying
for now
oh no
but like he has to get to
he has to get to dinner
with his wife
oh yeah
but then
there's a Chitauri invasion yes exactly robots I think that'd be good and fun someone's a Skrull No, but he has to get to dinner with his wife. Oh, yeah. But then he's also going to say, well...
There's a Chitauri invasion.
Yes, exactly.
Robots.
I think that'll be good and fun.
Someone's a Skrull.
Yeah.
Also, people have also requested we talk about the Avengers 4 leaked set photos.
Okay.
I think we're going to...
And Lego sets.
We might steer clear of that stuff because there's some spoilery stuff in there apparently.
Okay, right, yeah.
I don't want to go down that road for anybody who doesn't want to know.
Okay, then.
But email privately if you want to chat to Mason about it.
Okay, good.
Or at him at Wikipedia Brown on Twitter.
Put it in the bloody Planet Broadcasting Great Mates group.
Please do.
Make sure you say spoilers.
Say spoilers and put some dots.
Spoilers and dots.
Yeah.
Basic etiquette.
Basic spoiler etiquette.
Gambit has lost its director.
Of course it has.
Gorb Verbinski was doing it.
That's Pirates of the Caribbean. Correct. director of course it has uh gore verbinski was doing it that's pirates the caravan correct he did some of those done he did lone ranger possibly as well yep all good i know nothing
about gore verbinski what do you mean he's a cipher of a man in what sense deal what's his
okay look like uh he looks like a regular man he strikes me as a
man like he maybe he looks like like a maybe an older gentleman and he's got some silver fox kind
of hair there's a bit of a mullet on the back there's a bit of that about him yeah yeah okay
here's the things that he's directed uh the ring there you go okay he did mouse hunt that's a good
one great uh pirates the caribbean the first the first one. He did the Weatherman.
He did the next two Pirates of the Caribbean films.
He did Rango.
He did The Lone Ranger.
He did Django.
He did A Cure for Wellness, which apparently was fine.
Does it look like?
Dane DeHaan.
And he's doing Spaceless at the moment.
But he's not doing Gambit.
Lost another director, but the release date is still June of next year.
Gore Verbinski looks nothing like I thought he would.
No, he's got some of the attributes that you said.
You said human man, right?
I said human man?
Yeah, you got some of it, right?
I said slightly mullety?
Yeah.
Okay, slightly mullety in that photo.
Slightly mullety.
Yeah.
Any thoughts on Gore Verbinski?
So he's got some good work in there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But anyway, he's not doing it.
He's got the cheeks of a Gore Verbinski. Like when I think of a Gore Verbinski, he he's got some good work in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, he's not doing it. He's got the cheeks of a Gore Verbinski.
Like when I think of a Gore Verbinski, he's got the cheeks of a...
You're thinking Gore Bachoff, aren't you?
No, he's ruddy.
Ruddy.
He's got a ruddy cheek.
Like a chubby little boy?
What are you talking about here?
Yeah, like a chubby little boy, yeah.
Yeah, who's running home to mother.
The other boys were ever so mean to him.
Mate, mate to the boys. The other boys were ever so mean to him Mate, mate, mate to the boys
The other boys were so mean to me
Someone Photoshop Gorbatsky in one of those
You know, like 19th century little boy
Like a little Lord Fauntleroy
Yeah, maybe
Okay, alright
See, so the top photos are a young Gorbatsky
Yeah, yeah
Okay, right.
He looks a little Julian Assange.
Yeah.
All right, anyway.
I think you need to let this go.
All right.
Tom Holland apparently shot for two days on the Venom solo movie.
Ooh, that's right.
The story goes that he appeared as Peter Parker.
He was bitten by a radio conspider.
Oh, yeah, of course.
Yes, yes, he was.
And in the process of that, people are saying,
well, I guess that definitively links the Venom movie to the MCU,
even though it's a Sony-only run property.
That being said, they can balls up Venom and it doesn't matter
because Marvel ballsed up Inhumans,
and that's still in the universe, isn't it?
That's true.
Also, it's cancelled, by the way.
They quietly cancelled it.
They quietly cancelled it.
It's not returning for a second season.
It's not on the series order
is it
no it's not
you're not going to see
that dog again
yeah
hope it teleported them
all to the bottom
of the ocean
that'd be pretty good
I think it was a good show
in general
no you don't
it was real bad
it was no good
oh it was really terrible
yeah
maybe there's some value
in watching the whole thing
though
the whole first season
no I don't think that's true I don't think that's true okay maybe it gets better Terrible. Yeah. Maybe there's some value in watching the whole thing, though, the whole first season.
No, I don't think that's true.
Okay, maybe it gets better.
I don't think it does.
My understanding is that it does not.
Okay, good.
Tom Holland, though, what do you think about him? Tom Holland, yeah, okay.
But he's not Spider-Man.
What role would Peter Parker play in a Venom movie
where the Venom character is not school-aged?
I think maybe he just sees him on a...
On a boat, on a yachting expedition.
Well, that's the thing.
Like, maybe...
That's a good question.
I was thinking about a ruddy little Corvabitsky ruddy boat.
Pretty good.
Look, because...
Well, I was going to say that maybe...
Is it Eddie Brock or is it...
It can't be Flash Thompson, has it?
No, Eddie Brock.
Eddie Brock, yeah. Yeah, so maybe Eddie Brock or is it... It can't be Flash Thompson, has it? No, Eddie Brock. Eddie Brock, yeah.
Yeah, so maybe Eddie Brock sees him...
I was going to say maybe Eddie Brock sees him on TV
and the costume is somehow inspired to be spidery.
Oh, yeah.
But then they could just use existing footage.
Exactly, yeah.
So maybe a chance meeting.
Love a chance meeting.
Maybe...
Maybe he's not in it.
Maybe he's not. Maybe he's just not in it.'s not maybe they'll do it old school sony spider-man and just cut a whole bunch of stuff out that we think is going to be
in it oh that's all i like my spider-man films yeah anyway that's good maybe they have a chance
meeting in a in a bloody newsroom or something oh yeah that would make sense right yeah he's
doing some photography yeah it depends on what kind of Eddie Brock we're even getting in this as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Sony also might be up for sale next year.
One of the board members or CEOs, I don't know, Tony something, he said, if we don't
grow, we'll be somebody else's purchase.
Because apparently if you-
Probably Tony Sony.
Tony Sony.
You had to assume.
There'd be Tony Sony.
I have his name here.
They're like the members of devo or the ramones they have
to change their last name to sony makes sense to me yeah but uh so in this age of movie making
mason you can't be a little film company you have to keep growing you have to grow big or grow home
that's right as the saying goes so can you can you imagine you have to run home to mater that's
right and say that the other studios are being oh so mean to you uh what do you think
about sony like giving up all their properties all their men in blacks all their spider-mans
i think i think they're gonna try and grow i don't think they want to but there's a very real
possibility with you know disney buying up everything and apple buying up everything
and netflix and everything that we're going to be only having a few major companies that's true
also surely at some point well well, I don't know,
like if Disney buy Sony or their entertainment stuff,
surely there's going to be a lot in there that is just...
Trash?
Yeah, just trash.
And that's going to be...
Like what if they spend a billion dollars on it
and they don't get a billion dollars back?
And they just... I don't know.
Yeah, it's a good question.
It is a good question.
We're not capable of dividing that.
Maybe they'll only, you know,
maybe Disney could piecemeal it off, you know?
That's true.
Maybe not everybody buys, you know, whatever.
Or maybe Sony just keep making Men in Black films
or whatever.
I think they're doing a spin-off at the moment.
Oh, nice.
Jack Black is back in Men in Black.
I don't know what they're doing.
I don't know what they're doing with it don't know what they're doing with it.
Sebastian Stan had some interesting news, Mason.
Sebastian Stan had some news.
He's pregnant.
He's pregnant.
He's the Winter Soldier.
He's not pregnant.
He spoke to Hugh Jackman and he said,
am I going to see you soon?
As in in the MCU.
And he said, I can't really say specifically
because he feels like he's going to get in trouble,
but he said a couple of things to me
and I'll just leave it at that. so that indicates to say the musical is back oh
no well it is isn't it yeah did you see uh last show i didn't say the greatest latest show that's
that's see i was unaware that was a musical they've really buried the lead on that really
yeah have you seen any of the trailers i've seen all the i've seen at least one trailer and there
was no singing in it i don't know what you watched but like all the trailers have singing in it now he's like i just want to
make the greatest show in the world i just want to whip some elephants to death yeah right like
the like the great pt barnum was a very bad man well that's the stories yeah yeah i think uh well
the i think the idea was behind it is um you know hugh jackman loves show business and he loves the musical he always wants the musical to be back he is and it is back la la land this when you say this you mean
our podcast yeah your musical the weekly planet uh but what do you think about that hugh jackman
returning as wolverine having another go great yeah yeah you don't think they should recast
wolverine no okay fair enough next thing just give him one more i don't know just give You don't think they should recast Wolverine? No. Okay, fair enough. Next thing.
Just give him one more.
I don't know.
Just give, I don't know.
But I don't think you can go one more.
If you bring Wolverine in, he does 10. Then people will clamor forever.
That's true.
Yeah, you're right.
And he's 50.
I'm not saying he shouldn't do it.
I think it'd be kind of cool.
But.
Can you keep being that ripped at 50 plus?
Can I?
Yeah.
No.
Can Hugh Jackman?
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, I guess that's true. But do you want to? No, I feel that would take a toll on your body. Yeah. And mentally? Yeah. No. Can Hugh Jackman? Yeah, probably. Yeah, I guess that's true.
But do you want to?
No, I feel that would take a toll on your body.
Yeah, and mentally as well.
Yeah.
I don't know.
But some people get addicted to it.
They love it.
That's true, yeah.
They love the endorphins.
They love cooling down the joints with some ice.
Yep.
They love a herbal tea.
That's true.
That's what he loves probably.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Just eating fish all day and going on a Stairmaster or whatever.
Yeah.
And also you sort of have to introduce all the other X-Men.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Gambit.
Yeah.
The greats.
The new mutants.
Yeah.
The other ones.
Where could they put him in?
Maybe they could do, you know what they could probably do?
Dimension jump?
Maybe.
Or they could do, you know what they could probably do? Dimension jump? Maybe. Or they could do, because they initially,
Weapon X and the creation of Captain America were separate things.
Yes.
But then maybe like 10 years ago they went, okay,
the program that created Wolverine was originally the program
that created Captain America and it sort of evolved over the decades.
They just decided to put a metal skeleton in a man.
Yeah, exactly.
How did you get so far off track?
That's right.
What happened?
That's the Chinese whispers of super soldier experiments.
Isn't it though?
Yeah.
Sorry, keep going.
I don't know.
Maybe just have maybe a chance encounter between Captain America
and Wolverine in World War II
or something, maybe that.
And then he's like, I'm off.
I don't care.
And then he can be like, I don't care for this superhero malarkey.
I'm off.
But if you bring over the whole universe of what already existed,
your McAvoys and your Fassbenders and your-
You have to acknowledge all those times that they nearly destroyed the world
in the 80s.
Yeah, exactly.
And nobody cared.
Yeah, and even in the 2000s and whatever.
And it was world news that mutants existed.
When Tony Stark came out as Iron Man,
that was kind of the first public display of superhero...
Affection.
I was going to say affection, but that wasn't...
Yeah, sure, yeah.
So, I don't know.
I think you can say there was this secret school of mutants,
but you can't make it the same school.
Yeah, right.
Yeah. I don't know. I'll make it the same school. Yeah, right. Uh-huh.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'll make it parallel dimensions then.
It's fine.
Yeah, fine.
Done.
Yeah.
Got one more bit of news, Mason.
Okay, I'm ready.
I knew it.
I knew this would happen.
Oh, here we go.
Superman's red trunks are back.
Oh, for Action Comics 1000.
I knew it was going to happen.
I think I called it four to five years ago, Mason, or maybe I didn't.
Oh, yes.
But remember when the trunks went away?
I do.
You were happy about it?
And he was just nude just in the middle of his...
Yeah, just nothing.
Just in the junk region.
It was just long red boots and long blue stockings.
Then nothing.
Nude.
Yeah.
And then the rest of the uniform.
And then they were like, you know what?
Reaction's been bad.
Yeah.
It's been mixed to bad.
So let's just fill in there with some more blue and give him a belt.
Give him a belt.
I think I'm happy to see it back.
I like the look.
I know you don't like it.
It's classic Superman though, Mason.
And look, it'll come and go as well.
I don't really think it matters.
I feel like maybe they should have done it more how they have fixed the Iron Man suit.
Like in earlier appearances, he also has like the red underpants situation.
Yeah, he's just gold with the red underpants.
But if you look at the movie, he sort of still has the shorts
in a lot of the versions of the suit,
but they sort of extend it up to the waist
and down the legs.
So it's sort of ambiguous.
I feel you could do it with like that.
I think that's not a bad idea.
Yeah, I think you could do that.
Are they going to be...
Have you seen the image?
Sorry, no, I haven't seen it.
They're just jocks.
Straight up.
Straight up jocks.
Yeah, because I don't think the belt designs they were doing
really worked i think you need something to break up all that blue yeah and not necessarily in the
live action version but in the comic books yeah i think it's uh yeah how could they introduce how
could they see i guess you could it's it's easier to do it is there's less suspension of disbelief
in the comic books yeah imagine trying to introduce it in the movies now like what mechanism is it that he has
to suddenly have red underpants yeah that'd be incredible really good question yeah time travel
mother box mother box the mother box demands he puts on underpants yeah okay fair enough yeah
what was the deal with those the mother boxes i don't know anyway what are we reading oh yeah
you said the other part
oh what are we gonna read
I'm doing a theme
what are we reading
today
and then there's a theme song
yeah I already put it in
okay nice
man we've read a lot of stuff
I have to say
we've got a lot to catch up on
I think we should mention
up top though
our good friend Hollywood Pete
oh yeah yeah we mentioned this on the Planet Broadcasting Group but good to mention it again so I have to say. We've got a lot to catch up on. I think we should mention up top, though, our good friend Hollywood Pete. Oh, yeah, yeah.
We mentioned this on the Planet Broadcasting Group,
but good to mention it again.
So Hollywood Pete, who we've mentioned before,
who has basically gotten us in the room
with various Hollywood heavy hitters in the past.
Correct.
In meetings we have ruined.
He helped us.
He let us beat up Kevin Spacey.
That's right.
That's not true. That's not true that's not true
but it'd be fun
he helped us
put the planet
broadcasting
launch event together
he did yeah
he got us
a sponsorship
and like stuff
free stuff to give away
and all sorts of stuff
that was all paid
all those free drinks
that was on Hollywood Pete
that's right
yeah
anyway
but in addition to doing
all those millions of things
and he's got a bloody
million tv and movie projects on the go he's also written a comic book correct uh and we have
we received an advanced copy of that many months ago that's right uh we enjoy it a lot it's called
winter dark it's w-y-n-t-r yeah um and it's basically it's it's set in a sort of this
future feudal society where there's been like a environmental cataclysm
and the world's bloody gone topsy-turvy.
It's cactus, mate.
It's a new ice age.
That's right.
Technology's gone.
Or is it, Mason?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's kind of this feudal kind of medieval setup where they'll take like the Brooklyn
Bridge, but it's like a medieval society
built on the ruins of modern new york yeah and like the police officers like the the knights
outfit resemble like new york police officers because it's kind of a throwback to yeah it's
i know i crazy yeah i love i just i love the world building building and i love the idea and it's
also you've got so you've got societies across the world so you've got like a there's a new kingdom
in london right and so they'll they'll sail over got like a, there's a new kingdom in London. Yeah, right.
And so they'll sail over on like a,
what are they called?
A bloody...
Aircraft carrier.
Yeah, an aircraft carrier,
but it's all powered by steam and rolling and whatnot.
Yeah.
I just think it's a really interesting idea.
Also, it nearly was like a movie at one point
and hopefully it will be also.
Maybe again, yeah.
Because then we get a cut of it.
That's not true.
Hey, Pete. Hey, Pete, can we get a cut of it. That's not true.
Hey, Pete.
Hey, Pete.
Look, I'm putting my foot down, Pete.
This is our very last.
This is our demand.
We will not budge.
We want, if it becomes a movie, we demand two free tickets.
Yes.
To a session.
Yep.
During the week.
Yep.
Look, I know you probably can't swing Saturday.
We'll take a Wednesday morning.
We'll take a Wednesday morning. We'll take a Wednesday morning.
We'll do it.
Also, my dog has to be in it.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
We won't budge on that.
We will not budge on that.
Anyway, we mention this because we've had like the whole first story for months, but the first issue is on Comixology right now.
The second one is going to be up very soon as well.
It's got like six issues ready to go.
I'll link it below.
So bloody check it out.
But anyway, so in short,
if you're feeling magnanimous
out there
and you would like to support
somebody who's been supporting us.
And it's also an independently
created thing as well.
That's right.
Maybe check that out.
A couple of bucks.
$3.99 or something.
Get into it.
That's Australian as well.
If you live somewhere
better than here.
That's right.
It's less.
That's right.
Also,
Steel Wars did a live show.
He wanted us to mention it.
He demanded that I mention it with a whole lot of cool people and Star Wars fans and
celebrities and whatnot.
And actually, apparently, Rian Johnson listened to it, the director of Star Wars.
Could have bloody listened to one of the episodes we were on.
Do you reckon he did?
No.
He probably didn't, did he?
No.
Do you reckon he knows who you are?
No.
Do you reckon he'd know who my dog is?
No.
Get her in that movie, though.
Yeah, that's right.
Then he'll know. That's right. Then he'll know.
That's right.
Then he'll regret messing with us.
Absolutely.
Oh, I meant to mention this directly up top.
We're doing a live show.
Oh, yeah.
I put that at the top, but I forgot.
God, I'm shit at this.
It's over halfway sold.
I don't know how much is...
There's definitely tickets left, I think.
This is in April of this year.
April 14th.
It is taking place during the Melbourne International Comedy Festival,
but for legal purposes.
This is not part of...
It is absolutely not part of that.
Not related to the Melbourne International Comedy Festival.
So that we get more of the ticket sales.
It is not associated with the Melbourne Comedy Festival.
It's at April 14th at 3pm at the European Beer Cafe,
where a whole lot of other Planet Broadcasting people are doing shows as well.
Immediately afterwards, it's going to be Do Go On.
Correct.
So stick around.
That'll be funnier.
That's linked below.
I think it's 200 seats in total, and I think there's another 50 for standing.
So I don't know.
I don't know where we're at.
I think we're at like 150 or something like that.
Nice.
I don't know.
Grab a tiki.
Don't fly across the world for it either.
Like that's...
I mean, some people already have.
Oh, no.
Are they here?
Do I have to put them up in my house?
That's right.
Well, they're not here yet.
I think somebody is...
I'd have to check, but I believe a weekly whacker to do has purchased a ticket and they're
in California.
So they're coming down.
That's so far.
I know.
We'll make sure we'll leave straight away after the show then, Mason.
Okay.
I don't want to meet anybody.
We'll be around a bit afterwards, won't we?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Have a bloody beer, mate. Have a beer and a durry. Nice. Okay. okay i don't want to meet anybody no we'll be around a bit afterwards my way yeah oh yeah have
a bloody beer mate have a beer and a durry nice okay everyone gets a beer and a durry at the door
what do we got here i think tickets are like 30 maybe 30 bucks aren't they i demand a free ticket
yeah it's a good it's a bar it's an overage event but i think if you bring a parent oh then that's fine but uh don't drag your angry dad in
no no drag your angry dad in and then explain every reference we make
loudly be in the front row yes be in the front row be your dad several rows back
correct and you have to and yeah absolutely if you could mason uh people have also want us to
talk about doomsday Clock issue number two.
Oh, yeah.
We talked about this privately the other day.
Yeah.
And then we thought maybe we should save it for the podcast.
But we didn't.
We just talked about it.
So what did we say again?
Look, I didn't like it.
I liked the first issue.
I didn't like the second issue as much.
My problem with it, and you have the same thing, thought,
is they maybe shouldn't have crossed this over with the regular DC universe.
Yeah, I never thought I would say this.
But after the first issue,
well, after the first two issues,
I never thought I'd say this,
but I'm like, I kind of wish this was just a Watchmen sequel.
Yeah, it's kind of fascinating.
Like, that stuff is really interesting.
And I like the new characters.
I'm not saying it's bad.
Like, the second issue is still good.
And I'll absolutely read the rest of it.
I thought also there was some odd characterization.
I don't remember it, actually. What happened? Just was some odd characterization. I don't remember it actually.
What happened?
When was it out later?
Just some odd Batman characterization.
I don't know.
What did he do?
I can't remember.
Why are we talking about this?
This thing that people wanted to talk about.
Oh yeah, cool.
Yeah, yeah.
Did you like it though?
I did.
I'm still enjoying it.
I'm going to hit the...
Unless something very bizarre happens in the next couple of issues i'm on board till till the end i guess
this boils down to me the point of watchman was there are no superheroes that are powered
except for one and it's real weird but then if they just fold them into the regular dc universe
and then there's superman and batman and wonder woman aquaman and whatever or is that going to
be their own pocket dimension i think i my my best guess would be at the end of this yeah i think
i think this is more about various characters having realizations about themselves yes like
i think this is going to be i think this is going to culminate in superman and dr manhattan having
some sort of war of words showdown or something like that and they're both going to come to
realizations about themselves and then the watchman universe is going to be locked off
you know what superman should have kept his underwear off
so they both have their dicks out.
Yeah.
Oh, nice.
Perfect.
I'm just saying.
Yeah.
No, it's good.
I'm still interested
to see where it goes.
It's probably better
than the Watchmen prequels.
Mason, people also wanted
to talk about Black Mirror.
Well, look.
Firstly, can we talk about
Black Lightning? I didn't watch it. Okay, I watched it. I quite liked Mirror. Well, look, firstly, can we talk about Black Lightning?
I didn't watch it.
Okay, I watched it.
I quite liked it.
Yeah, I thought it was good.
A lot of people, I saw some reactions on the internet that were like, oh, this is so corny,
this is so hokey.
I didn't feel that at all.
I thought the trailer was kind of corny and hokey.
Yeah, right.
But the episode itself, I enjoyed.
Out of 100, what do you give it?
100.
Jesus.
That's right.
That's a... Volt. 100 volts. Oh oh is that good i think is that enough uh to power something sure okay yeah yeah uh let
me think so it's uh so it's uh jefferson pierce yes he was formerly the superhero black lightning
and this is not the arrow verse is that right it's the CW, but I don't think it is.
Yet.
That being said, they have mentioned other superheroes.
Also, spoilers for all this stuff.
I haven't seen it.
We might inadvertently.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, fine.
But they do mention that other people put, at one point,
one of the characters says other people put on a costume
and fight crime and they're superheroes,
but Black Lightning puts on a costume and fights villains
and he's a vigilante.
You know, what's the difference?
It's because he's black kind of thing.
Right, okay.
And so that leaves plenty of room for other superheroes to zip in.
And I guess if they want to do it Supergirl style,
well, originally it was a different universe
and they just want to fold it in.
I guess they can totally do that if they want.
Okay, fair enough.
And, you know, there's no rule that says he can't use his lightning powers
to open a portal to another dimension.
I think there are some rules.
Probably some rules.
They could just break them.
It's fine.
Well, I think maybe they want to see if it works before they fold it in.
Yeah, totally.
Well, Supergirl was on a different network before they folded it in.
I guess that's different.
But I don't know.
We'll see where it goes.
I think if it's good and people like it, yeah, they'll just fold it in.
Yeah, yeah.
And then we'll have the biggest
flaro-verse ever
biggest flaro-verse ever
also
stuff that I enjoyed
it's got
there's themes
like what?
there's some themes
of like
like superhero themes?
superhero themes
there's also
sort of themes of
you know
what it's about
what it's like to be
a black person in America
and you know law enforcement and crime and stuff like that which is pretty good like
what's it like to shoot lightning and stuff like that there's a little bit of that yeah anyway he's
he's he he left the black lightning identity behind him for a while and uh then you know
crimes were on rampant so now he's back baby it's a little dark knight returns striking back
he's striking back like lightning also we got we's back baby it's a little Dark Knight Returns is he striking back? he is striking back like lightning
also we got a little
we got a little
kind of
we get a little flashback
like a surveillance footage flashback
of his ridiculous old costume
which I thought was fun
is that like from the comics?
yeah yeah
and now he's got the cool new costume
cool
also it's got
it's got James Remar in it
who's he again?
he's one of
he's Charlotte's wife in Texan City.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
No.
Which one is he?
Charlotte's wife in Texan City.
Charlotte's husband.
I'm sorry.
James Remar.
I don't think so.
I think you're thinking of Samantha.
Hang on.
I'll show you.
Yeah, I know who he is.
He's from the Warriors.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, Charlotte's husband was the guy from Twin Peaks.
Oh, yeah. Okay, right dummy you're a dummy
hey come on no that's right but worth checking out you think yeah i enjoyed it a lot yeah uh
he's got a ridiculous mustache that's what i like yeah nice a quick question there's a so he so
james reymar is like sort of a father figure to him yeah and he's like he's he's a local tailor
but he also made the he makes the makes the black lightning suit kind of thing.
Okay.
But he's the father figure.
I'm just going to check,
because I'm pretty sure black lightning,
I'm pretty sure James Remar and Cress Williams,
who plays black lightning, are the same age.
But I'm just going to...
Really?
No.
They seem about the same age.
James Remar's like 65.
Oh, okay, right.
James Remar was born in 1953, so he's 64.
Sorry.
Okay, so Cress Williams was born in 1953, so he's 64, sorry. Okay, so
Chris Williams was born in 1970.
There you go. So they're not the same age.
Okay, fine. Are you saying that Chris Williams
looks like garbage? Is that what you're
saying? No, I'm saying, I don't know.
I'm saying that James Bremer's new
moustache makes him look youthful
and vigorous. It says here that
LeVar Burton played him at one point
when I googled it.
There you go.
When the hell did that happen?
Maybe voice actor.
It might have been voice actor, yeah.
There you bloody go.
There you go.
Yeah, so he's 47.
Yeah, cool.
Good stuff, Mason.
Do you want to quickly talk about Black Mirror
and kind of butcher it?
Yeah, let's do it.
This is probably worth a whole episode,
but this is it.
We're doing it.
Do you want to go episode by episode?
Let's go episode by episode.
Okay, spoilers.
Okay, spoilers for Black Mirror. Also, watch it. It's good. Yeah, so overall, what do you think? go episode by episode let's go episode by episode okay spoilers okay spoilers for dark mirror also watch it it's good yeah so okay overall what i like is more than
last season i think i think this was a strong season yeah i agree i particularly enjoyed the
first episode the uss calista oh yeah okay which is like that star trek knockoff yeah it was like
the 1960s star trek i thought there was some really funny stuff in it
like genuinely funny
and also genuinely frightening
oh yeah for sure
like the way they all
have to kind of pretend
to be the 1960s
kind of characters
and when the big monster
comes out
she like puts her hands up
and she's like
what am I doing
yeah right
I don't understand
how you can get
somebody's saliva
and their brains
no I was just going to say
you sort of have to
buy into the premise
yeah
that
if you get someone's DNA, it holds their memories.
But I guess you could sort of hand wave it away by going...
Because the premise is that you plug your brain into this virtual reality game.
Maybe you could say, okay, well, if you play the game,
it takes a scan of your brain as well.
And that can see the memories and then the saliva gets you the DNA.
And then whatever, you know, that's fine.
Fine. Okay. That's fine. Fine.
Okay.
100%.
Good.
We should also rate these as our standard BlackBerry scale of to what degree society was a phone.
Yeah.
Okay.
We'll make sure we'll do that towards the end for this one.
But I think it also...
What the hell was that?
It was a remote.
Okay.
That's fine.
I'll probably just leave it there.
I guess I have to throw out that tv now
exactly what are you gonna do it's behind the couch it's too far away now to switch it on
it's one of those tvs as well like most tvs you can't actually switch it on without a remote
which i think is a mistake i want a big clicky turny wheel that's right every tv no but because
you start off sympathizing with the the character well you think he's the main character this kind
of this beaten down nerd and he's at a dot-com company and meth damon meth damon and he should be like
jesse plemons yeah he's supposed to be you know he's his genius and people don't understand him
whatever but it turns out he's crazy yeah also did you notice that his partner who takes advantage
of him when he puts him in the computer oh when he gets burnt up by the ship's engine, he doesn't come back when they escape into
the game?
Oh, he made the ultimate sacrifice.
So I guess he's dead.
Yeah.
Okay.
Anyway, it's a good show.
It's a good episode.
Yeah.
I also liked it that they, it wasn't just, oh no, your phone's bad.
You look at it too much.
It's just like, hey hey let's do this weird thing
in a different yeah look maybe i was kind of on the fence about it maybe in some of the previous
seasons but i do like the idea that he's that they're trying out different things absolutely
now yeah it's and i think a lot of from what i can tell a lot of that is the charlie brook of
the series creator saying listening to people's feedback and people, oh, it's just this and this over again.
And he's like, well, now I'll try something different.
Yes, absolutely.
I think with the budget as well, you can do something like this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because it looks like a Star Trek TV show.
And in the previous season with San Junipero,
apparently the reason that one is so positive
is because everybody was like,
oh, Black Mirror, it's just all misery all the time.
Okay, right, gotcha. And he was like, well, I'll do a's just all misery all the time. Okay, right, gotcha.
And he was like, well, I'll do a nice one just to...
But there is like dark undertones in that.
We talked about how you're trapped in that universe forever.
Oh, for sure, yeah.
I also thought about...
What was I going to say in this one in particular?
I don't know, man.
I bloody lost it.
That's all right.
I mean, it was good for one.
What I enjoyed also right at the end is the cameo from Aaron Paul.
Aaron Paul, yeah.
Apparently he did that.
He's a very big fan of Black Mirror.
Yeah.
He did that.
Charlie Brooker reached out and said, do you want to be the voice?
And he agreed to it on the condition that that doesn't preclude him from being in a subsequent season.
Oh, a future season.
So he's like, I want to be in a full episode.
Yeah, right.
I want to be in one.
He'd be really good.
Yeah, right.
He's a good fella by all accounts.
He used all those drugs, didn't he?
Yeah.
Also, those guys worked together on Breaking Bad,
Meth Damon and him.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Also, Kirsten Dunst is apparently in the background
and now Meth Damon and her are in Season of Fargo together.
Cool.
So, yeah, he's pretty versatile, that guy.
Yeah.
I actually watched that Lance Armstrong.
When we finally put Matt Damon in the bin,
we'll probably just replace him and no one will notice.
I watched that movie about the, what's it called, Lance Armstrong.
Yes.
The drug scandal or whatever.
It's really good.
Yeah, yeah.
But he's in it.
He's quite thin and raked in.
Oh, right, okay.
Yeah, he does the weight, he does the hair, he does it all.
He does the hair, yeah.
Yeah.
I had something else to say about that.
What was it?
Black Mirror.
Black Mirror. yeah yeah i had something else to say about that uh what was it like mirror like me oh okay i think
that the interpretation of future video games in this is tenfold better than it was in the last
season where he goes into his mind but it's it wasn't 10 seconds it was only one second
like this was much more interesting to me yeah i thought that was one of the weaker episodes in
the last season this was probably the best.
Yeah.
Which one was... Archangel was very...
How many societies is the phone?
Being in mind it was positive.
It was a positive experience.
What is this out of?
I don't know.
I reckon about five because it wasn't like...
It wasn't...
Because it wasn't necessarily a negative technology.
But it was also...
I feel it was a little too far flung.
Right.
Okay.
I thought it was a good episode and I enjoyed where they went with it.
It also felt a lot like, have you heard that, it's a Harlan Ellison short story called I
Have No Mouth But I Must Scream?
I have heard that, yes.
Felt a little bit like that.
It did, yeah.
Just like trapped in this.
By this lunatic who just hates you.
And can do whatever they want.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was very interesting.
A little pretty grim at times.
Pretty bloody grim at times. That sign stuff was full on, man. Yeah, I. That was very interesting. A little pretty grim at times. Pretty bloody grim at times.
That sign stuff was full on, man.
Yeah, I know, right?
Do a sign of the hour.
You probably didn't appreciate it as much as I did,
because, you know, I'm a dad.
Oh, well, here's one you're bang up for,
which is the episode two, Archangel.
Yeah, I didn't love this one.
With Rosemary DeWitt from the show Standoff.
It's her and Berger from Sex and the City,
and they're hostage negotiators city and they're they're hostage
negotiators but they're also a couple have you not seen that show it's very good okay
yeah i i know i think you've talked about this but is it still on no oh no yeah okay no i thought
this was i guess it was grim and sad maybe that's why i didn't like it also um kristin malotti who's
in the who's in the previous episode Calistar she's the new recruit
she was also the mother
in How I Met Your Mother
yes correct
there you go
very good Mason
thank you
well done
thank you
what other links do you have
that's all I have
so you're saying that
actors in this
have been actors
in other things
in other things
that's correct
you're real good
at this Mason
thank you
oh Jodie Foster
did Archangel
yeah that's right
first female director
I believe
of anything ever
is that true yeah wow but more specifically of an episode of black mirror yeah yeah no i was
i think because it was so grim i'm like oh that's unpleasant like it's just very grim and upsetting
and putting you the fact that someone could see through your eyes and track your locations and
all that kind of thing maybe that's what this was very society as a phone. Very much so.
Yeah.
And it was also, it also felt a little bit farcical in the sense that she only looked at the tablet when something bad was happening.
Okay, right.
Like when, when.
When she's doing her drugs.
Yeah, exactly.
When she was doing the drugs or having the sex, she was like, oh my God.
But the whole, every other part of it where the boyfriend's like, I love you and I have
real feelings for you and everything's fine and we're just chilling out and it's cool.
Yeah.
She wasn't looking.
She was not on board.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then she got her head beaten in.
Yeah, that's true.
Which is no good in many ways.
No.
Yeah.
What would you, what do you think about that?
Putting a bloody chip in your head?
I'm against it.
Yeah, me too.
As I get older.
We're very close to putting chips in kids to track them.
Oh, for sure.
It's coming up.
I mean, that's, that's the premise of this.
I would feel, you know, that you, that you can microchip your dog.
Yeah.
Why wouldn't you microchip your kid?
Were you just pointing at your phone then as in,
because you said that, the premise of this?
I thought you meant as in the premise of your phone
because you can track your phone.
Oh, right.
Because you can track your kids through your phone as well.
That's true, yeah.
Kids, if you're listening, your parents are tracking you.
Oh, every movement.
Throw your phone into a river.
That's right.
Throw your phone into a river and get a log and jump on the log
and go down the river.
But then when the river forks off,
make sure the phone goes in one direction
and you go the other way.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
I just sent.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
This is 10 phones.
Yeah, look, I'm going to say...
Is that a 10?
Yeah, it's a 10.
I'm going to say like an eight.
Okay, I shouldn't go with a solid 10, should I?
That's right, yeah.
I'm going to give it a nine.
What we want to do is we want to slowly build up
and then realize the final episode isn't worth a 10
and we've wasted it.
No, we shanked the scale is what we did.
If any of them's a 10, it's this one though.
Yeah, that's probably true, yeah.
Hang on, what else happened in it?
Mason, we don't have time for this.
No, we have so much time.
No, because I have to go through this.
Oh, yeah, that's a good point.
I don't have to do anything. No, we have so much time. No, because I have to go through this. Oh, yeah, that's a good point. I don't have to do anything.
Crocodile.
Which one was that?
Crocodile.
It is the one with the memory detective.
Oh, yeah, I like that one.
Yeah.
She's a tiny little Columbo.
Yeah.
Here's the comparison.
I think I said this to you where it's just like an episode of like a ridiculous CSI show
where they get a picture of somebody, a reflection off a window, and then it's a reflection off
an ATM, and then it's a reflection off a car.
So basically she's going jumping memory to memory.
Enhanced, enhanced, enhanced.
But I thought it was, but it's actually less ridiculous than an episode of CSI.
Oh, yeah, I agree.
Because she makes the genuine, she doesn't get all the information.
She doesn't go, okay, well, I looked through this person's memory
and then I went around a corner and up a set of stairs
and then I saw the thing.
She sees a tiny little thing and then she intuits the clue.
Yeah.
And then she goes to the next person.
It was grim.
That's right.
Yeah, so it was a machine that can read your memories
and so you can see your memories and thoughts.
But they're also not entirely accurate all the time either.
Yeah, it's about a woman covering her tracks.
She was really good.
Another real grim one.
Didn't have a fun time with it.
No.
But it wasn't so much society as a phone.
It's society as doing some murders.
Yeah.
So, I mean, there's a message in it, isn't it?
Is there?
What is it?
Keep your thoughts to yourself, Mason.
And don't do murders.
Don't do murders.
Please don't.
Yeah.
And also, apparently,
that automated pizza delivery truck is real now. Is it? to yourself and don't do murders don't do murders please don't yeah and also apparently that that
automated pizza delivery truck is real now he's a pizza heart a trialing one apparently you've got
to do something when you're pizza hot don't you yeah yeah wow that's closer than i thought maybe
society is a phone you know yeah that's him when 10 that's a 10 just because of the pizza delivery
robot uh let me think anything else happened no it doesn't matter it's a good one it's a good one
hang the dj was the dating app one yep i have questions about this first of all
i really liked it yeah uh but at the end it's spoiler alert also don't listen to this go and
watch them if you haven't yeah i guess free on the bloody bloody netflix or whatever i mean you
pay for netflix you get the idea but with hang the dj it's it's the dating app one where people are in this weird
1984 utopian society where people are just kind of thrown with a different partner and they date
and they date and they date till they find till the the system assigns them with their perfect
match yes but it's in a phone it's in a phone there's the 10 we found this one society is
literally the phone so we talked about it
because at the end it's revealed that the story that we've been following is one of a thousand
to see whether these people are matched correctly on this dating app based on the premise of would
they reject this reality yes due to their love and and revolt against the systems and and we we
discover that in you know 99.8 percent of cases they did, and so that's a good match.
And then it's revealed that all that was taking place in a phone
and that these two people are actually going to meet in real life.
And your question was?
Is it a copy of their consciousness in the phone?
Yeah.
Or is it just ones and zeros and, I like Thai food.
Well, I like soccer.
I think it's that one.
But that's too complex.
But I think it's just a dramatization.
I think it's just...
I don't know.
We should get Charlie Booker on the show.
Yeah, let's do it.
And beat him up.
Yeah, that's right.
With a rolled up copy of PC Zone magazine.
You used to write for that.
You used to write for PC Zone magazine, yeah.
Well, I guess it's a thing you can interpret it however you want.
However you want.
That's how I interpret it, Mason, which means I'm right.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, but you think it's ones and zeros and data and approximation.
Yeah, I think they just filled in a very detailed...
Yeah, don't buy it.
Okay, fine.
Yeah.
Anyway, it's a 10 for society as a phone.
That's right, yeah.
Because society was literally a phone.
I'm glad we didn't give it to that person.
Exactly. What a dumb idea. Okay, Joel loved i loved it it was terminator with a dog i also
but this one's great this one seems quite divisive i know on actually on our facebook
group really a lot of people like no i hated this one it was meh but i liked it a lot and it's this
this one because it was very different also it was very different. First one in black and white.
There were no phones in it.
People were using a radio.
Old school.
Retro.
Walking talkies.
But this one also, have you seen, because this one is based entirely on the, have you
seen the videos of those Boston Dynamics robots?
You kick over a dog and it gets back up.
That's the whole idea.
But like, I think Charlie Brook was fascinated fascinated by you knock one of these things over
and it looks kind of helpless for a second and then it just snaps back up again.
Yeah, yeah.
And they can do backflips now.
Yeah, that's right.
Run up a hill.
Run up a hill.
Yeah.
Yeah.
These are very close to being real.
Smashed by me.
Exactly.
And I like the idea that we didn't really have any sense of how the
world came to be this way we don't know if is this is this happening in just one state in america is
it the whole world well what i because i i read an interview with charlie brooker and he said he was
going to include a scene where they're they're piloted so they're driving like there's a guy
on the other side of the country and he's just in his lounge room and he goes and gives these kids
a bath yeah and then he comes back to being a killing machine yeah because there's a guy on the other side of the country and he's just in his lounge room. And he goes and gives his kids a bath.
Yeah, and then he comes back to being a killing machine.
Because there's a bit in it where...
It rests at night.
It rests.
It has one of its legs broken
and so it can't climb the tree that she's hiding in.
And so it just goes, it depowers.
And I guess that would have been the moment where he's like,
well, time to clock off for the night
and kind of do just regular things.
But I like the idea that...
You don't know.
You don't know.
And my assumption was, based on this one, it was that it was an AI.
Yeah.
And it was a kind of situation where something has decided
that all humanity needs to die.
Yeah.
And so it's just using these dog robots.
Yeah.
And it's unrelenting as well.
Yeah, that's right.
And I like the way that they establish how the machine works
and then they use the rules of how it works to trick it and break it
and wear it down and misdirect and whatever.
And apparently its vision system was a real,
that's like a LIDAR, like a laser detection radar system.
They just use real scans.
Great special effects too.
Like that robot dog is 100%.
I wonder if that's why it's in black and white.
No, apparently not.
I read an interview where that wasn't the case.
But yeah, I mean, it definitely helps.
And I liked all the cool stuff it had.
Remember when it had the little, the tracking device grenade?
Yeah.
Yeah, that was great.
It got a knife.
It found itself a knife, spun around with a knife.
They finally discovered something scarier than a rabid dog,
and that's a dog with a knife? They've finally discovered something scarier than a rabid dog, and it's a dog with a knife.
I mean, it's a 1 out of 10 in terms of society's a phone.
See, I disagree.
I reckon it's a 9.
Because the phone's become a dog?
Yes.
Well, it's very close.
I feel this one's kind of close to it.
Wait, are we judging this on whether or not society's a phone?
We never explain what it
means it's it's just a gut feeling of how much you think society is a phone in the episode and
i think in this one society is close to very close to being a phone okay i'm gonna give it a give it
a two then all right okay well these things are divine as i said this episode's very divisive yeah
so not in terms of we both thought it was great and i also think yeah and i also like the
idea that it was for a teddy bear remember that yeah it was just this innocuous thing
and it feels like
you know what else i like i like the idea that
society is so far gone that they just needed a replacement teddy bear. And they're like,
they sort of resigned themselves to the fact that I'm going to have to go out
in this wilderness and maybe die for a teddy bear.
Cause that's,
that's our lives now.
Yeah.
So that's our lives.
Pretty grim.
Pretty grim.
What are we up to?
Last one,
black museum.
Oh,
what do you think about this one?
It was my least favorite.
I liked it.
I liked it.
I like,
I like parts of it,
but it felt, I mean... I like parts of it, but it felt...
I mean, it was intentionally hokey.
I think I need to watch this one again.
Yeah.
What I didn't like about it is that...
You know, this whole season was...
There was a lot of stuff about transferring of consciousness.
Yes.
And that sort of stuff.
And I feel like by this point,
and especially if you watched them all in a row,
I was kind of tired of that concept.
Maybe that's what it was.
And this, there was three in a row.
And I would have liked,
I like the idea of an anthology episode
within an anthology series of like,
the idea of like-
None of these are worthy of a full episode.
Yeah, but also I think it would have been,
if this guy had different kinds
of medical technology.
Yeah.
Like he was just this snake all of a sudden.
Oh, it wasn't all conscious transfer.
I mean in terms of I don't mean as in none of these.
All of these could have been their own episode.
Yeah, right.
But they just took premises and just burnt them.
I kind of enjoyed that.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
I also like the idea that we saw all the
artifacts from all the other yeah which kind of ties into i guess this might be the same universe
or in this i like the idea i like the idea that in this episode it's all the same universe because
there was a bee from hated in the nation there was the that weird box from the lollipop yep there
was the guy in the bloody in the balaclava from White Bear.
Like the vigilante guys.
There was all sorts of stuff.
There was the hand of that pedophile kid.
No, that's not true.
All sorts of stuff.
Yeah.
And they brought back the cookie,
or the idea of the cookie from the Christmas episode.
What was that?
Because he's like, this is a, we're're calling it cookies it's a kind of transfer you know the idea that
oh you extract somebody's entire consciousness you put it in a device and then it just runs
your house yeah right because you're a monster you're a rich monster yeah sounds good yeah
pretty good right around my house mason yeah oh man just get you to live in the wall and do it
oh i could do that.
I think that's all of them.
Yeah.
Anyway, 7 out of 10.
No, it's a solid season as far as society as a phone.
Yeah.
I'd give it a good 9 out of 10.
I love it.
I think it's a great show.
Can't wait to see where it'll go next.
That's also going to really ramp up the idea,
like the fan theories of how, you know, because we're in the Pixar universe. You can like the fan theories of how,
you know, because, you know,
in the Pixar universe,
all the, you know,
you can build the fan theory of like,
okay, they're all set in the same universe at different times.
Yeah.
The idea that they're all in the same,
I'm excited for it.
Sorry, these are fine.
Yeah.
Also, they mentioned St. Juniper's Hospital.
They do.
They do.
There you go.
I've watched some movies.
I won't go into depth.
Disaster Artist, I liked. Yep. I didn't have the payoff that I feel like it should. there you go uh i've watched some movies i won't go into depth uh disaster artist i liked yep i
didn't have the payoff that i feel like it should kind of rush the ending some people told me that
i saw the room some people told have said to me it's quite it's quite self-congratulatory it is a
bit of that it's a bit like look how accurate we got this kind of yeah watching the room
holy shit uh it's great right it's and you know it's dark yeah like when you look at the
guy and how it's centered around him and he's the best guy in the world and he's trying his best and
nobody listens to him and women hate him but yeah but he just wants to be misunderstood and wouldn't
you wouldn't you just hate yourself if he died like it's just yeah it's this weird vanity project
yeah like i think there'm gonna go and eat
worms until i yeah there's a real darkness to it yeah just like a real kind of self-hating
yeah it's yeah anyway i it's hilarious though do you think it's going to be revealed eventually
that he did a lot of murders it's very possible yeah yeah it's weird that yeah like he was a like a kosovo general or
something yeah exactly right he gassed some people whatever is it like it's it's odd to me that
you know it's good that they're cleaning house in hollywood with all the the bad people sure
i think it's interesting nobody's dug they're like oh he's just this he's just this weird
eccentric weirdo why is nobody dug and dug in? Where did he come from?
Poland, apparently.
Okay, right.
He was born in 1955.
Well, that's answered all my questions.
Who knows?
Yeah.
Wind River, I liked quite a bit.
Jeremy Renner and one of the Olsons.
Oh, yeah.
I know what you're talking about.
Molly's Game, I watched last night.
I saw it last night.
Oh, hello.
Liked it a lot.
And Shape of Water also
oh yeah
the fish man
and the woman
nice
they have sex
nice
that's your thing
what is that
is that reminiscent of like
an old
yeah it's like a
creature from the Black Lagoon
it's a bit that
and it's a bit kind of
Pan's Labyrinth
no
I haven't seen that actually
I know I haven't seen Pan's Labyrinth
please don't
yell at me on Twitter
ahhh hey but it's a bit kind of 1930s 40s romance musical-y I haven't seen that actually. I know I haven't seen Planes and Labyrinths. Please don't yell at me on Twitter. Hey!
But it's a bit kind of
1930s, 40s romance musically.
A bit La La Land.
Sort of.
It's good.
See it.
So I think it's his best film
since probably Hellboy 2.
There you go.
What else has he done?
I can't remember.
Anyway, we've got to do
Letters Mason.
I'd love to talk about them more.
But they're all fine.
They're all pretty good.
Doctor Who, Christmas special.
Sorry I haven't watched it.
I thought I liked it.
But again, I don't wear myself out watching 20 episodes a year or whatever.
I know people are like, what do you think of,
or people have opinions on the new Doctor?
I have no opinion.
She was in it for four seconds.
Like when they introduced Matt Smith, I'm like, I don't know.
Sorry for four seconds.
You had a weird potato head.
I think she might be like a scouser.
What's a Scouser?
Like she's got that accent.
She's like, oh, brilliant.
Brilliant.
You know?
You know?
I don't know.
I'm looking forward to it.
Yeah, well, sure.
I'll check it out.
I'll watch two episodes.
That whole goodbye to Peter Capaldi just-
Oh, yeah.
See, the-
It fell completely short for me.
Because we don't know any of the characters.
I missed it all.
It's like, oh, it's me, Matt Lucas.
Yeah.
Remember we had all those good times and I'm like probably how many how many were you in yeah but maybe you're
in two episodes maybe you're in three seasons i don't know there you go but uh no i'm always
interested to see the book the new doctor ends up being anything else that'll do it i think okay
letters mason is it time for letters it It's time for letters. Yes, it used to be. Classic one.
Letters, oh letters.
We love you.
Some letters, they're only a day away.
I know they're here right now.
We're going to do letters.
I realize I've accidentally gotten two Star Wars tweets here, but oh well.
Wow.
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That's right, yeah.
This is one from Ben Bromley.
Okay.
He is an animator.
I don't know if you've seen, have you seen this video?
I have.
He made a little Superman animation.
It's great.
Yeah, we're in it.
We are in it.
Very briefly, yeah.
Yeah, that's right.
But it's basically like, it's a little animation about the cinematic Superman.
Yeah.
And I guess kind of...
A more positive way to bring him back.
Yeah, to bring the character back.
Yeah.
It's real good.
It's a bit tongue-in-cheek.
Yeah.
It's a bit of a bloody laugh.
They introduce him into characters we haven't seen or... Yeah, it's great animation. Anyway, he just... It's real good. It's a bit tongue-in-cheek. Yeah. It's a bit of a bloody laugh. They introduce them
into characters
we haven't seen or...
Yeah, it's great animation.
Anyway, he just...
It's really good animation.
He just emailed in
and he just said
he's an animator from the UK.
He's included us in it
and he made it
as someone who loves
the new movies
but enjoys how polarizing
the reactions to them
have been.
Absolutely.
I also enjoy that.
Yeah.
So if you just go to YouTube and look up Ben Bromley,
it'll be on his page.
It'll be there.
That's real good.
It's real good, yeah.
Check it out.
Yeah.
How many views has this got?
This should have a million views.
If it doesn't, I'll be real angry.
Let's have a look.
33,000.
That's not enough.
Not enough.
Check that out.
Everybody should go and watch this.
It's really good.
What have we got here?
This is from Dennis on Twitter.
Hashtag Redwood Planet Pod.
Correct.
So I've just killed Mr. Wilson.
No.
So I really didn't like the last Jedi.
Did you know there were two Dennis the Menaces?
As in?
There's an American Dennis the Menace and there's a British Dennis the Menace.
Which is more dangerous.
I would say the British Dennis the Menace is more dangerous.
He's not afraid to lose some teeth, is he?
That's right.
That's right.
He'll nut you.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Good.
Yeah.
So I really like...
I mean, it's a fairly common rhyming method there.
He's just...
Two people from across the pond have just...
So they're not...
It's not as in two...
It's two entirely different people thought of this name.
Yes, correct.
There you go.
So I really like The Last Jedi, but now after thinking about it,
do you guys feel like Rian Johnson killed off too many people?
Like he apparently admitted he would have killed off the Knights of Ren too
if they were in it.
But he did kill off quite a few people.
Yeah.
I think Ackbar had to go because the actor died.
So it's kind of a, I think you do write that out. Are you sure he died? I was speaking to St because the actor died. So it's kind of a...
I think you do write that out.
Are you sure he died?
I was speaking to Steele about that.
Maybe he didn't die.
They mentioned that the actor?
Yeah.
The actor definitely died.
It was like 97.
Oh, okay then.
The voice actor.
Right.
But I think Akbar could have had a little bit of a better send-off probably
because they just kind of go in passing, Akbar's dead.
Yeah, like I said, I think at the time it was basically one step up from he died on the
toilet.
That's right.
Yeah.
Apparently in the books as well.
And it's a crap.
It's general layer brings him out of retirement.
Like he's like,
I'm done.
I can't do this anymore.
And she's yeah.
So he goes out like that,
but I guess it's also,
I like how...
Also, the idea of Ackbar for Star Wars fans is different than casual fans.
Because he's just a guy who's a meme.
You know what I mean?
He has a big role in Return of the Jedi, but he's not Lando.
You know what I mean?
He's not Luke Skywalker or whatever.
But what about killing off Luke and Snoke?
All the others?
I loved it.
Me too.
Also, spoilers for The Last Jedi.
Did I say that already?
I don't know.
What do you think?
Yeah, I liked it a lot.
Yeah.
I really enjoyed the fact that by the end,
there was literally just a room full of people.
Yeah.
And that was it.
And now it's them versus the entire First Order. Well, I think I said this in our review.
I feel very satisfied with the conclusion.
Me too.
If they never made another one, I'd be okay with that.
I'm okay with that because I think with the new one,
you'd almost have to kick off another series of films
because what are you wrapping up?
I mean, just the Kylo Ren stuff, I guess.
But I guess I'd also like to see him go down,
like really go take it too far.
Okay.
Because he's doubled down on they went
maybe we'll redeem him i didn't and then they went no he's the worst bloke okay so do you think he's
too far gone for redemption bearing in mind we said i think i said last time he was and bearing
in mind vader has done some very bad things yeah and he's a magic force ghost he certainly is and
he deserves it doesn't he yeah prick we haven Prick. We haven't seen Anakin back.
Well, no, he's dead.
No, but I mean, as a ghost.
No.
Yeah.
Do you think they're reticent to bring back Hayden Christensen?
Hayden Christensen, maybe.
I don't know.
Because the Sebastian Shaw who played him is probably dead.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think people will go.
I think we might, Sam.
Yeah, same.
Yeah.
I think people will go wild.
I think enough time has passed that people... Yeah, people are people will go. I think we might see him. Yeah, same. Yeah. I think people will go wild.
I think enough time has passed that people.
Yeah, people are forgiving of it.
I think also if anyone's going to bring him back,
JJ Abrams would be more likely to because he's kind of in love with the past
and, you know, fan service and whatever.
So, yeah, I don't envy that job
because Rian Johnson just took everything that he did
and just threw it in the bin,
which I loved.
And I know a lot of people didn't.
It's divisive.
But I don't like mystery boxes, and I'm glad he just tore it all down.
Also, we've got the Knights of Ren to look at as well.
So I think also you need to move forward.
You know what I mean?
Oh, for sure, yeah.
I mean, what purpose would Alec Guinness have served
if he was alive all the way through the original trilogy?
That's true.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm sure they could have.
You can write anything, can't you?
You sure can.
Anyway, another question, Mason?
Oh, this is an email from Luke Atkins.
I'm ready.
He's writing from Los Alamos, New Mexico.
The reason I'm writing to you is that you guys helped me
with my heart surgery this May.
We sure did.
You remember that?
I remember that.
Yeah.
I shouldn't have been drunk.
I'd never done it before, though.
No, it's all right.
You know, they say just get out there and start cutting. You know what I mean? We done it before though. No, it's all right. You know, you just, they say, just, just get out there and start cutting.
You know what I mean?
We did it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Took us a while to find it.
Who knew it was in the chest?
Not me.
Not me.
Yeah.
When you think you just go through the butt and that's where all the, that's where all
the stuff is, right?
That's all the stuff is.
Well, like that'd save you a lot of time.
You don't have to cut anything.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
But anyway, we found it.
Anyway, good for him.
Anyway, he's just, thanks for the laughs.
No worries.
After the heart surgery.
That sucked, man.
Congratulations.
I mean, I'm glad that went well, yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's rough, man, heart surgery.
So he's back on his feet, back on his heart.
That's right.
Excellent.
That's really good.
What have we got here?
This is from Tate, another Star Wars one.
Do you think the decision on whether or not to cast Ewan McGregor
in the Obi-Wan movie will be affected by how
Alden Eichenreich is received by fans in the Han Solo movie?
Hashtag weekly planet pod.
No, I think it's completely independent.
Yeah.
I think people want Ewan McGregor.
Yeah, and people aren't sure on Alden Eichenreich.
Because he's proven himself with A, the voice,
the most important part.
And B, in terrible films.
That's right.
And C, being kind of...
He looks just like him.
Yeah, and doing a bit of,
ooh, I don't know about this situation.
You know?
He is.
That's all you need.
Ooh, I've got a bad feeling about this.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Oh, no, thank you.
Ooh.
Ooh. Yeah, no, definitely, I want to a bad feeling about this. Oh, no, thank you. Yeah, no, definitely.
I want to say that.
Yeah.
I mean, that doesn't preclude them cancelling an Obi-Wan movie
if the solo movie does poorly.
Because, again, movie producers don't understand
what works and doesn't work in a movie.
I think whether or not you like the direction of these Star Wars films,
I think they're on the pulse a little bit more.
Good.
Whether or not that result you agree with or not.
Yeah.
I think even if Solo bombs, we're still doing Obi-Wan.
Yes.
Yeah.
Because look at the hype, Mason.
Look at the hype on the internet for it.
Yeah.
Remember he turned up to that award show and he had the Obi-Wan beard
and everyone went mental.
They're like, he's doing Obi-Wan.
If they're doing it, it's not filming for a year.
He doesn't need the beard just yet, you know?
Maybe he's got a beard because he's not doing anything.
That's right, yeah.
Yeah.
Why do you have a beard?
I guess you just never...
Because I'm not doing anything.
Yeah, that's right.
Is that the show for this week?
I think it is.
Let's wrap it up, Mason.
Oh, everybody go to planetbroadcasting.com.
It's a great website.
Fully functional.
Nice.
Yeah, you can play the episode and click around and it will still play.
That's right.
Yeah.
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We're at Weekly Planet Pod on Facebook and Twitter and Gmail and Bandcamp.
We've got some audio commentaries up there for movies.
Correct.
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We've got a suggestion for one.
Throw it our way.
That's right.
We've got a bunch of garbage every Tuesday. We've got a bunch of cool stuff? Well, we've got a suggestion for one. Throw it our way. That's right. Carbunner Garbage every Tuesday.
We've got a bunch of cool stuff lined up.
We've got so much going on.
We've got a Han Solo one,
which is a comic,
which is pretty much ready to go,
just sitting on.
Ben's been doing a really good job on that,
and Eric did some animations.
Just sit, just waiting for that trailer, mate.
Nice.
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Yep.
Let's see.
We've got some teas on Tea Public.
Yes.
And only Tea Public, not Teespring.
That's where you want to go.
That's right.
Yeah.
Also, I've seen a tea in the wild. Yeah's right. I've seen a Tee in the wild.
Yeah, sure.
Really good.
Love meeting people in the wild.
I met a friend of the show, Weekly Whacker To Do, James.
That's me.
Not you.
No, a different James.
I was in Minotaur.
The comic shop.
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Yeah, that's right.
Did he work there?
No.
Because those people who work there, they don't like to talk comics.
That's right.
But he was there.
He took a photo.
Very nice man.
Did he ask you? No, he surreptitiously didn't. He upskirt to talk comics. That's right. But he was there, took a photo. Very nice man. Did he ask you?
No, he surreptitiously
didn't.
He upskirted me.
No, he asked.
That's cool.
That's really cool.
Good on him.
What was he buying?
He had nothing in his
hands, but I'm assuming
he was ready to shoplift.
All right.
He's probably going to
shoplift some Funko Pops.
That's what I'm about.
That's right.
Yeah.
If you want to review
the show on iTunes,
that helps quite a bit.
That would be great.
If you've made it this far, thank you for listening. Yep. And if you've got review the show on iTunes that helps quite a bit that would be great that's uh yeah if you don't know
if you've made it this far
thank you for listening
yep
uh
and if you've got a topic suggestion
we'll take it
next week I think we're doing
most anticipated of the year
what's coming up
so
we're going to fold that into this
but it would have been too much
and the show would have been too long
and I'd get mad
right now it's the perfect length
not quite
so more?
we need another 15 minutes
no it's fine.
Okay, great.
Definitely wrap this up.
That's it.
That's it.
We did the show.
We'll see you next week, guys.
Grabbed a dat gem.
I'm married, bitch.
I am.
It's true, you are.
I mean, for now.
For now, I was going to say for now.
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