The Weekly Planet - 22 Everything Guardians Of The Galaxy
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One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost.
FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Welcome everyone to another episode of the Weekly Planet,
official podcast of comicbookmovie.com.
My name is James, junior editor at Comic Book Movie.
You may know me as Mr. Sunday. And joining me this week is my special new co-host, Chris
Hemsworth. Welcome to the show, Chris. Do you want me to retract?
Which one am I again? That's Thor, right? Or is it the other one?
That's Thor, yeah.
Okay, right. Okay, yep.
Sorry. Nice and welcome.
It's great to be here.
Do you think anybody fell for that, and do you think they were annoyed as you were when
I did that?
I think they're certainly annoyed that it isn't Chris Hemsworth.
So thanks for that.
Okay.
Well, there will be Hemsworth news, though.
So I guess that will make up for it.
It won't make up for it.
Certainly not to the fans.
I understand.
Yeah.
Cool.
All right.
Let's get into it, mate.
You've driven a stake into the heart of this already.
Or a hammer into its skull, if you will.
Or whatever Liam Hemsworth does.
You've driven a Miley Cyrus into this
that's what you've done mate
alright
Mason I thought
we'd start with
the amazing
Spider-Man 2 news
okay great
I showed you
an amazing
Spider-Man 2 picture
which was amazing
of the new goblin
or whatever version
of the goblin
well he's green
so it can't be
the hobgoblin
by default
no
but there are
multiple versions
of the green goblin
is that correct
there's at least
30,000 of them yeah there's 30 There's at least 30,000 of them?
Yeah, there's at least 30,000 variations.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is it the worst Goblin look ever,
bearing in mind there was also the new Goblin in Spider-Man 3,
or do you love it?
Well, as I understand it,
they were going for sort of a Chester Bennington in Linkin Park kind of look,
and so they've absolutely nailed it in that regard.
I thought, and I thought I was the only one who realised this,
but then I realised everybody on the internet thought of it also.
He looks like Evil Ed from The Fright Night,
the first Fright Night.
Oh, the porn star guy.
The guy who we found out that one week,
he did regular movies, transitioned into gay porn,
and then somehow transitioned back into regular movies.
Yeah, like a couple of years ago.
The only person who's probably ever done that.
It's probably, it's got to be the least fun person.
So, yeah.
What do you think of that look, though?
I mean, people don't like it.
No, I don't.
It's a weird mashed together suit.
Yeah, I'm a little bit concerned that they're going all of Spider-Man's villains are now the result of Oscorp's scientific experiments.
All the octopus arms and the rhinos.
They're all there.
They're all in there.
But I guess, you know,
if you want to build that universe, fine.
Go ahead.
You're okay with it?
But it looks real dumb.
Wouldn't you rather?
I don't understand.
Also, bearing in mind,
I haven't seen the first one.
I may or may not see the second one.
But also, though,
isn't it...
How hard is it to get the goblin right?
This is the third time
we've had a goblin...
It's not hard.
And as you've said,
we've seen that...
The test footage. The test footage of the goblin we've had a Goblin. It's not hard. And as you've said, we've seen that. The test footage.
The test footage of the Goblin face, which looks really good.
From like 2001.
That's probably on a shelf somewhere.
They could use that.
That's right.
Yeah.
Oh, well.
Well, maybe this is not going to be the Goblin because he's Harry Osborn.
He's not Norman Osborn.
So maybe the next film will be the actual Green Goblin.
It's too long to wait.
Or use one of the other hundreds of villains he has.
Vulture.
Kraven the Hunter.
Mysterio.
A guy with a brick.
Yeah.
A guy, yeah.
Brickatron.
Yeah.
Any of those.
The mortarboard.
Look, I think it looks great.
The movie looks great.
Yeah.
I like the costume.
I liked the new trailer.
You know, not a good choice. The movie looks great. I like the costume. I liked the new trailer.
Not a good choice.
And also, that's not a good choice for a promotional image either.
Was that leaked on the internet?
No, that was a proper promotional.
Well, it looks dumb.
People said it was spoilery because he's got the Spider-Man pinned down.
You know what?
Yeah.
No, that's not really.
At some point, somebody's going to be... Yeah, there's got to be some point somebody's gonna be like if yeah
there's gotta be
some sort of
conflict
of some sort
if he wasn't pinned down
at some point
I would be like
you know what
I was thinking
like the last couple
of episodes we've done
we've kind of
spoiled ourselves
with a lot of stuff
like the
where Robocop came out
and I remember
hearing some news reports
before it was released
about how
you know it's gonna be there going to be the blue Robocop
and he's going to look a certain way
and then they're going to militarise him
and there's going to be some sort of marketing session
where they decide he doesn't look military enough
and so they make him black
and then this happens
and all that came true in the movie.
That's right, yeah.
No surprises.
Are we ruining everything for ourselves?
Yes, we are.
And for the listeners.
Well, you know what though?
The last Spider-Man movie, which you haven't seen, is yet to be ruined for yourself.
We're going to do an audio commentary track for it.
We were talking about it today, weren't we?
Yes, we were.
It's very exciting.
Not that exciting.
It's really exciting.
It's really exciting, yeah.
Somebody put all the clips together that were released online for that movie before it came out,
and it was something like 45 minutes of footage.
Wow, see?
Yeah.
So, you know, there are no surprises in filmmaking anymore, Mason. Or there are
if you're the guy J.J. Abrams.
But his surprises are no good.
Name a good J.J. Abrams surprise.
He sent you that birthday card.
Yeah, that was nice. Absolutely, yeah.
Put my kids through college.
That was nice of him. Name a
J.J. Abrams surprise that isn't
just a monster. I was going to say the Cloverfield monster, but then you surprise that isn't just a monster i was gonna say the
cloverfield monster but then you said that isn't a monster so i don't have anything yeah there were
more lens flares than i thought they'd be in star trek that's true yeah you got me yep you son of a
bitch let's move it along mason okay you're a fan of the original space jam no are you a fan of the
original space jam website yes i was gonna say that's still up inexplicably i'm a fan of that if you if anybody has not seen it you gotta if you type in space the original Space Jam website? Yes, I was going to say it's still up inexplicably. I'm a fan of that.
If anybody has not seen it,
if you type in Space Jam original website or whatever,
it's a website from like 1996,
and it's completely unchanged.
Like the text is a weird colour,
so it doesn't gel with the background.
And it's like a black background with stars on it.
It's hard to read text over it.
It's so great.
Some spinning things, some spinning icons,
probably the pinnacle of GIF technology at the time.
That's right, exactly.
I don't understand how that is still up.
I mean, I'm amazed and I'm impressed.
Yeah, you're glad that it's still up.
Yeah, of course I am.
But hey, each to their own.
Anyway, you have Space Jam news.
No, I just wanted to talk about the old website.
Oh yeah, it's great, isn't it?
No, no, it was rumoured that, it was said actually, I think Deadline reported they were like,
LeBron James is going to be the new Space Jam in Space Jam 2.
Fantastic.
Keep jamming.
Space.
Kevin Spacey.
I don't know.
So what do you think of that, if it happened or not?
Has LeBron James acted in anything before?
Did Michael Jordan act in anything before?
No.
I'm sure he was in things. Is LeBron James as good anything before? Did Michael Jordan act in anything before? No I'm sure he was in things Is LeBron James as good a basketball player as Michael Jordan?
Well, Mason, as you know, I'm a massive fan of whatever sport that is
And there is much debate
Some people say Jordan is the greatest ever though
Some people say he's not
Some people say that Jordan is also a better person
But I'll tell you this much
They're both pricks
You'll put your foot down I will Some people say that Jordan is also a better person, but I'll tell you this much, they're both pricks.
You'll put your foot down.
I will.
There's also that rumor going around that Michael Jordan was like, he didn't get picked for his high school basketball team,
and then he became the best basketball player, right?
But what actually happened was,
he didn't get picked because he was underage at the time.
So it wasn't because he wasn't good enough,
it was just because, well, he's 14 and the team's for
17 year olds
oh I see right
so it gives people
like us who
are really good at
basketball but not
at the NBA level
yeah
hope
I've kicked all kinds
of goals in basketball
let me tell you
that's it
right through the net
or the posts
in the pocket
yeah that's right
like at the edge of the table
that's it
down the felt
and you get it in the pocket
yeah I've done that yeah yeah but anyway LeB lebron james's people came out and said
not a thing yet so it could happen it might not is anyone really ready for another looney tunes film
well we all loved looney tunes back in action nope we all loved looney tunes space jam
no there was that bit in it where there was like pulp fiction where they referenced pulp
i remember that's the only bit I remember, yeah.
I don't care.
They can make it or not.
I think the kids will love it because the kids love Space Jam.
I remember seeing Space Jam at the time because when we were kids, I don't know if you remember,
it was cool to have a basketball singlet.
Oh, sure, yeah.
And over a T-shirt for a team that you didn't understand.
Right, like the Charlotte Hornets.
Exactly.
Which was the most...
I've had a discussion with people about this.
The Charlotte Hornets starter jacket,
the most 90s garment of all time.
Yeah, yeah.
Because it's a nice microfiber.
It's big and blousy.
It's like teal and aqua.
Yeah.
Teal and purple, rather.
The most 90s colour combination of all time.
Yeah.
You're right, yeah.
I didn't know a single player from that team.
But it did...
But by God, I supported them.
The kids...
Are kids still on board with Looney Tunes?
No.
No.
But this would bring them back. But I would argue the kids weren't on board. No Looney Tunes no no but this would bring them back
but I would argue
the kids weren't on board
no that's not true
in the 90s
when we were kids
Tiny Toon Adventures
Tiny Toon Adventures
that was a kind of revamp
they had the Animaniacs
and a whole bunch of stuff
that happened
yeah yeah
so I would say
less than ever
I reckon this is doomed
yep
alright
yeah
but then again
you get someone like LeBron James
who fucking cares
let's move on
why are we talking about this
for so long
I don't know
the more we talk about it the more it'll unravel that we don't know anything about basketball.
And then people will storm the gates with pitchforks and torches.
Wow. Mason, I'm sure you've heard the fantastic foreign news this week.
Now, this hasn't been officially confirmed by the studios, but apparently this is a lock, these forecast members.
Some were confirmed or rumoured before.
Two of them are new.
But let's go through
the Mason. Michael Jordan, the basketball player.
Incorrect.
Michael B. Jordan, the basketball player.
Also incorrect, but you're getting there.
Basketball.
No, go back the other way.
Michael B. Jordan, the actor.
Getting warmer.
No, that's his name.
Okay, right, yeah.
He'll be Johnny Storm. I think of the casting choices, I think that's the best one. I know
people are like, oh, he's African-American, it doesn't work, whatever.
I think it's good because it'll annoy people.
Yeah, that's right.
Exactly, yeah.
So, we don't know if him and Sue Storm are brother and sister.
I mean, maybe they're ones adopted.
They could be adopted, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Maybe they're from, you know.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm on board with that.
Whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
I always wanted Donald Glover to be the new Spider-Man.
Yeah.
You've seen that, right?
Definitely. I love Donald Glover. But I think Spider-Man. You've seen that, right? Definitely.
I love Donald Glover.
But I think he's taken a step back from acting for his...
Childish Gambino, yeah.
Childish Gambino, yeah.
His rap careers.
But yeah.
But you know what?
They'll probably reboot Spider-Man in the next four months.
They will almost certainly.
So we could get a...
Miles Morales?
That's his name?
The ultimate Spider-Man, yes.
I've never read it.
I've heard it's great.
I should read it.
But Kate Mara,
she's in House of Cards.
Okay, sure.
She is Sue Storm.
A lot of people don't like this.
I don't know why.
She's just fine, I guess.
But you know what?
It's because that's all anyone can say
about Sue Storm casting.
Yeah.
It's either terrible or it's fine.
Yeah, that's it.
Do you know anything about her?
No.
You've never been to her house?
No. No, I should, though, shouldn't I? Do you know anything about her? No. You've never been to her house? No.
No, I should though, shouldn't I?
Yeah, just wait for her.
Yeah, good call.
She's great in House of Cards.
That's a great show.
Hang on, what was her name again?
I'm going to look her up.
Kate Mara.
Well, look, the first Google suggestion is Kate Mara, hot.
Hot, question mark?
No, hot.
So we're probably on to a winner.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, cool.
I'm on board
Cool alright
She looks a bit like
What's that
Isla Fisher
Isla Fisher
Australia's own Isla Fisher
Sure yeah
Australia's own yeah yeah
So I think that's
That's an okay piece of casting as well
Next one
I'm not wrapped in
Bearing in mind as well
I don't care about
The Fantastic Four
No this is real
This is real nitpicking
On a franchise
We don't care about
Exactly
I've established this before
I don't like reading There's no real shots of her on a franchise we don't care about. I've established this before. I don't like Reed Richards.
There's no real shots of her as a blonde here.
No.
Whatever.
Jesse Alba's not blonde.
Yeah, true.
But anyway.
That worked out really well.
Miles Teller as Mr. Fantastic.
Is that the silent magician?
Possibly.
He doesn't talk?
Penn's friend?
I don't know.
Is that who we're talking about?
Oh, right.
Okay.
No, he's been in a bunch of stuff recently.
He's 27.
He looks pretty young as well.
Uh-huh.
He's not very...
First of all, why is Mr. Fantastic the only one with Fantastic in his superhero name?
Because he's really, really up himself.
Okay.
Yeah, I think that's pretty much it.
He could probably physically do that as well.
Yeah, definitely.
Just get right up himself.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, I'm not sure about this guy. He's kind of got a weird kind of, I don't know, soft face. stretchy tail. Yeah, definitely. Just get right up himself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm not sure about this guy.
He's kind of got a weird kind of, I don't know, soft face.
He looks very young, yeah.
Yeah, he looks very young.
But from what I've seen, he's a decent actor.
Yeah, yeah, and he could be like an arrogant young genius kind of thing.
Can you see the grey in his hair?
Can you see the grey temples?
I think it'll look very artificial.
Yeah.
If they're in the cosmic accident and then all of a sudden he's got grey temples
Which is what happened in the last Fantastic Four movie
If you remember correctly
And the last one is really strange
Jamie Bell
He was Billy Elliot
He was in Jumper
The one where Channing Tatum was a Roman
Was he in Jumper? He wasn't
He's like the rogue Jumper
He's Jumper's mate's Jumper's mate.
Yeah, Jumper's mate.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh, he was, he mo-capped Tintin.
He was the mo-cap.
He, he wore the ping pong balls.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
He's Ben Grimm.
Um.
I'll tell you why it's okay and not okay.
Yes.
Unless you want to say something. Well, he doesn't look like, I always picture Ben Grimm, human Ben Grimm.
Yeah.
As kind of like your, your bruiser.
Like Michael Chiglis.
Like, yeah, like exactly,. Like Michael Chiglis. Yeah, exactly.
Exactly like Michael Chiglis.
Before I even knew who Michael Chiglis was, that's how I imagined a human thing.
A human Ben Grimm.
Yeah, exactly.
It won't matter when it's mo-cap, right?
Andy Serkis played King Kong.
Andy Serkis isn't really a giant ape.
No, that's true.
That we know about.
What are you hiding from us, Hollywood?
But as, I mean, obviously they'd probably show him pre-accident.
Yeah.
Which would be a bit strange.
Because he's, I looked up his height.
Not that height matters in movies.
Because people are like, Batman should be at least 6'2 exactly or whatever.
He's like 170 centimetres.
Which isn't very tall.
Put that in the Imperial.
How many feet and inches is that?
That's 1,000 yards.
Oh, that'll do.
That'll definitely do it.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I mean, people did not like most of the majority of this casting.
Yeah.
I think it's got a good director.
We don't really know anything about the story.
It's touch and go, I guess, at this point for a movie we really care about.
Yeah, yeah.
I've looked up the origin of the Fantastic Four, like the origin panels.
Johnny Storm's like, I'm calling myself a human torch
and I'm with you all the way.
And they do that.
They all put their hands in.
Is his hand on fire when he puts his hand in?
No, he's put it out.
He's put it out.
Okay, good.
Same goes for me.
The Invisible Girl.
Ben Grimm's like,
Is she saying Invisible Girl or Invisible Woman?
Invisible Girl.
She becomes Invisible Woman later.
Because that's a big point of contention with this as well.
People say,
how dare they call her an Invisible Girl?
That's an insult.
She's a woman.
She's a woman. She's a woman.
Initially, she was the invisible girl. There you go.
I didn't know that. Because I don't read comics from the 60s
because they're shit. That's a really good point.
I ain't Ben anymore. I'm what
Susan called me, the thing. So that's
sad for him. And then
Red Richards is like... Wait, Susan called him
the thing? Yep. That's really mean. Yeah.
He's just had a horrible accident.
It's like someone loses their legs
and they're like,
where'd it go, Stumpy?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're going to call you
Stumpy now.
I mean, first she calls him
like an ugly orange
rock skin real prick.
And then he's like,
and I'll call,
Reed Richards is like,
and I'll call myself
Mr. Fantastic.
So really kick,
really put the boot in.
Like, I'm a monster.
Oh, I'm Mr. Fantastic.
So. There you go. Yeah. We've I'm a monster. I'm Mr. Fantastic. So...
There you go.
Yeah.
We've all learned something today.
So would you recommend that issue?
Issue one of the Fantastic Four?
Probably not.
Just look up Fantastic Four Origin on Google and it'll appear in front of your very eyes.
Absolutely.
You could use this as an audio commentary as well as you're reading that panel.
Yes, please do.
Okay.
Well, look, Mason,
people hate Fox
because they have
the Fantastic Four
and they want people
to give it back.
They will never give it back.
No.
Why would they?
It makes some money.
It makes some money, exactly.
If they gave it to Marvel,
Marvel would probably
turn out something
really great, I'd imagine.
Not to say that this won't turn out great.
Who's to say, Mason?
I'm going to put my foot down and say it won't be great.
Okay, sure.
The odds are stacked against it, certainly.
You're right.
A good director, though.
But anyway.
Do we know who's directing it?
Josh Drag, Chronicle.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Which, again, you haven't...
Could go either way, as far as I'm concerned.
Sure.
Well, he's only done one movie, but it's a good one.
But people yelling for Fox to give it back,
they're not going to give it back.
You could yell all you want, why would they give it back?
They're going to keep making movies until it's not profitable to make theatrical releases anymore.
Then they'll go direct to DVD.
Which they did, like they did that version in the 90s.
Yeah.
The infamous Fantastic Four movie, Roger Corman, that was never released, just to keep the rights.
Right, exactly, yeah.
So there, there you go.
But they did give back Daredevil and some other stuff as well.
But I think the Punisher, I think they stole like a bowl of fruit,
which they were forced to return.
Oh, wow.
It was wax fruit too.
Yeah.
That's the only reason they gave it back.
Because the Fox executive was like just munching down on it.
He's like, whoa.
And he took a couple more bites.
This isn't a superhero movie.
I'm eating wax fruit.
Where does this podcast go, Massive?
I don't know.
But anyway, Fox also, there was X-Men news this week.
Some people consider this a spoiler.
I don't consider it a massive spoiler.
We'll see.
And you know how I feel about spoilers now.
You love them.
I'm against them again.
Oh, okay.
Skip ahead a bit if you're worried about this.
It's basically about... I can't skip ahead. No, you can Skip ahead a bit if you're worried about this. It's basically about...
I can't skip ahead.
No, you can't.
You put me in the right spot.
I'll tell you what.
I'll say it.
If you don't like it, I'll go back and take it out.
Of my memories.
Yes.
All right.
How bad can this go?
You probably say, well, you know Beast in the X-Men.
He appears in stills as a human, as a human man.
The reason apparently that is because he's developed a serum which controls his beastliness.
But then, Mason, when he gets...
Beastiality, if you will.
I say get that under control.
I agree.
That's one thing we have a firm stance on in this podcast, isn't it?
Yeah.
When he gets enraged, that's when he becomes the beast.
Like...
The Hulk.
I was going to say Batman
but yeah
the Hulk's probably
a better example
right sure
what do you think of that
people don't like it
what do you think of it
it's a bit derivative isn't it
it sure is
nah I don't like it
yeah me neither
it's not great
but you know what
I guess they intended
it as more of a
Jekyll and Hyde thing
yeah
and I guess also
it keeps the budget down
that's true
it could be human
for most of it
yeah that's it
and who wants to be
they just need big hand and feet prosthetics.
That's right, yeah.
That's exactly it.
The Expendables 3 Mason.
Are you familiar with that movie?
Have you seen it?
No, it's not out yet.
Correct.
Yeah, we can bypass the test.
The director of that,
whose demo I didn't put down,
he is going to remake...
Rexpendable.
Yes, that's his name.
Yes.
It's a vanity project more than anything.
It sure is.
He's going to remake The Raid,
an American westernized version of The Raid.
Huh.
Didn't The Raid 2 just come out?
I think it either has come out
or it's about to come out.
Or it is...
I don't know.
No, no, no, but yeah.
I haven't seen The Raid.
You've seen The Raid?
Yes.
I've heard it's great.
It is great, yeah.
Now, the interesting thing is that it's rumoured that the people they're looking for to take
on the lead roles are the Hemsworth brothers, who are great.
They're certainly great podcast hosts.
But they're not martial artists.
And a big part of The Raid is...
I've watched clips of The Raid on YouTube or whatever.
It's crazy, insane martial arts.
Yeah, yeah. And as good as those guys are, I like them. They whatever. It's crazy, insane martial arts. Yeah, yeah.
And as good as those guys are, I like them.
They're good guys.
They're not martial artists.
So would it be kind of a more run-and-gun kind of standard action movie?
Well, on the one hand, you've got, say, The Matrix,
where you wouldn't have...
Pre-The Matrix, you wouldn't have thought Keanu Reeves was any good at martial arts, right?
Well, no, I didn't think that.
No, exactly, yeah.
So I feel, you know, you could train somebody in movie martial arts fairly soundly you can yeah but the raid really raised the bar as far
as what is possible yeah i guess again not having seen the whole thing right the raid i've only seen
the trailer for the raid too and that yeah that looks incredible too yeah there's some really but
i mean it's more yeah i have to wonder do when when there's a really spectacular martial arts
sequence is that due to the the martial artists or is it really spectacular martial arts sequence, is that due to the martial artists?
Or is it due to the choreographer?
Or is it due to just people having ideas?
Does the director come up with a great idea for that or what have you?
Good point, Mason.
I'd imagine the martial artists, though, would play a pretty big role, right?
I'm going to say, though, that the actors having some sort of charisma on screen, probably better than them not being martial arts experts.
Okay, fair point.
You've given this a new spin, Mason.
I have, but at the same time,
apparently the Oldboy remake is really terrible.
Yeah, I haven't seen it, but yeah.
In my latest video,
I listed a whole lot of the Western remakes of Asian cinema.
There's actually some pretty good ones.
Do you want me to name some?
Yes, give me an example.
Despicable Me 2.
Wait a second.
Monsters University. No, you're thinking of Pixar films. give me an example. Despicable Me 2. Wait a second. Monsters University.
No, you're thinking of Pixar films.
I am.
Sorry.
Yeah.
The Departed.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, good.
Fistful of Dollars.
Yeah, okay.
Magnificent Seven.
All right.
Star Wars is sort of a remake of The Hidden Fortress.
Okay, yeah.
The Ring, sort of.
I think it fared better at the time.
Yeah.
The Ring 2.
Ring-a-ding-ding, I call it. I don't know what it's called. I. The Ring 2. Ring-a-ding-ding, I call it.
I don't know what it's called.
I haven't seen it.
Ring-a-ding-ding is another thing.
Yeah.
I haven't seen it.
Apparently it's not that good.
There's a whole lot of Japanese horror remakes, most of which are terrible.
Ah, yeah.
Like The Grudge.
Yeah.
But generally, you know, you've got then your Godzilla 1998.
So I would say there's more bad than good, but occasionally you get a good one.
So what you're saying is this has a less than good chance of being good.
It's got a 35% chance of not being the worst movie ever made.
Fantastic.
Well, I'm on board, quite frankly.
All right, then.
Now, Jai Courtney, we talked about him last week.
He's in Spartacus.
He was Bruce Willis' son in A Good Day to Be Bruce Willis' Son.
He did get the role of Kyle Reese in the new Terminator reboot.
Yippee.
That's locked in.
Good for him.
I know, right?
I like that guy, but I'm worried he's going to end up suffering from Sam Worthington syndrome.
We figure out he's not that good at acting.
Yeah, exactly.
Or that charismatic.
But nobody really wants to see him on screen.
That's right.
And nothing against Sam Worthington.
That being said, all of those things you said are true about him.
But Jai Courtney's great.
Great American accent, though.
I was about to say, you know what? Sam Wor wellington's american accent is how i am talking right now
yeah that is his american accent but yeah jai courtney's great in spartacus but i haven't
really seen him do anything that good yet so i hope i hope he's really good because he seems
like a good guy and i hope it works out for him what's the premise of this new term okay so
basically uh yeah it's a sort of a reboot reimagining.
I'm assuming they're going to reset the timeline.
Sorry about my phone, Mason.
God.
I know.
Do you forgive me?
You're unprofessional.
Hang on, let me just check what it's from.
Oh, it's...
Oh, thank you.
Udit Hamesh.
He retweeted my Guardians of the Galaxy video.
Good for him.
There you go.
There you go.
Sweet shout-out.
I said his name wrong.
Poor shout-out. Poor shout-out There you go. Sweet shout out. I said his name wrong. Poor shout out.
Poor shout out, but thank you, that guy.
Where are we going with this?
What was I saying?
Oh, yeah.
So, basically, Schwarzenegger's in it again, but I think it's going to be like a Star Trek
reboot kind of timeline thing.
Right.
Because I think they bring Sarah Connor into the future or something.
That's the idea.
Okay.
Because the chick from Game of Thrones who's got the dragons, she's Sarah Connor.
Yeah.
A lot of other things happen.
Okay.
We loved Terminator Salvation, though, didn't we?
No.
We didn't love that movie.
Correct.
We've come to a consensus now.
Good.
Good.
So there you go.
Now, Mason.
Yes.
Exciting news.
I'm ready.
Oh, mate, you're going to love this.
This better not be Shia LaBeouf news.
There is no Shia LaBeouf news this year.
Oh, we did it.
I was going to say this year or this week. Then roll on the Batman Superman news. There is no Batman Superman news thisouf news this year Oh we did it I was going to say This year or this week
Then roll on
The Batman Superman news
There is no
Batman Superman news
We're running a deficit
I'm a little bit scared
I'll be honest with you
Could you look something up
Real quick
Just to see
Sure
Okay what other news
Do you have
Okay
Well Principal Photography
Has started
On Entourage
The movie
Wow
Your favourite show
I'm kind of hoping that
Production on the movie
Will stall And then the movie Will hoping that Production on the movie will stall
And then the movie will be off
And then the movie will be back on
And then we can all do the movie
We run this town bitches
Yeah
Every episode of Entourage
Yeah
Shit show
As I said
I've watched every episode
Do you want to hear the synopsis
Yes
They're back in
Will this save me from watching the actual film
I don't know Mason
Okay here we go I'm ready
They're back in business
With super agent Turned studio head Ari Gold.
Some of their ambitions may have changed, but the bond between them remains strong as
they navigate the capricious and often cutthroat world of Hollywood.
I like how they've led with Ari Gold there, because clearly he's the only character on
that show with any kind of charisma.
He's the breakout, because the superstar guy who's supposed to be like your Mark Wahlberg
or your whoever. He's not very interesting. he's a charisma vacuum really he really is yeah
yeah wow that's pretty pretty great yeah i do remember watching an episode of entourage
and it's it's they're they're trying to drive around the movie's out whatever movie it was
and it's like a really hot day and they're trying to drive around that was the aquaman movie yeah
they're trying to drive around to to go to cinemas and shops so people like hey it's those guys in the movie or
whatever and then they get stuck in traffic and so they go to like a motorbike store and the guy
behind the motorbike store can is like oh i love you guys you're in the movie and then they he gives
them free motorbikes and then they go to some kids party and and they're like we'll come to your
party kid and then all the all these friends like, you're the coolest kid in the world.
And they're like, we run this town.
It was great.
I wish I was watching it right now.
Not doing this podcast.
If you do want to watch that,
there's an audio commentary track
you can play over that episode as you watch it.
Just space it out a little bit.
Yeah, that's it.
Now, Mason,
apparently the hunt is on for a Doctor Strange director.
Four names have been thrown up from Marvel.
I thought you were going to say for a Doctor Strange actor,
because I could put the grey in the temples.
Miles Teller.
You could Miles Teller it.
Tweed little mustache.
That'd be great.
Okay, so basically this has been Kevin Feige.
By the winds of Watoom!
That's a thing that he says.
That's pretty good.
Yeah, right?
And your American accent is nearly as good as Sam Whirlick's.
I'll work on it.
It's Kevin Feige's dream project, apparently.
He's been wanting to get this off the ground for a while.
Everybody's got a favourite, and it's always a weird favourite.
That's why Aquaman sticks around, because everybody loves Aquaman.
All the DC presidents have loved Aquaman for some reason.
Yeah, I don't know.
Who's your favourite?
Not Aquaman.
I think it's Iron Man, isn't it?
Yeah, probably.
My favourite's probably Despicable Me 2.
Again, that's a Pixar film, I think.
You can like what you like, Mason.
I will.
You shouldn't hate on me.
I'm going to hate on you.
No, it's...
You said when we started this thing that I could hate on you all I wanted.
I did say that, you're right.
Unlimited hating on you.
So get ready, alright?
Alright, so one of the directors is mark andrews what would you know
nothing not a damn thing that was just some hating okay right gotcha mark andrews is the
co-director of brave apparently okay going up there brave is apparently i have not seen it but
one of the weaker pixar films not to say it's a bad movie they say but comparatively to others
comparatively to say cars 2 which is amazing you've gotten
some facts there right uh nikolai it's it's n-i-k-o-l-a-j so it's probably pronounced a
different way than what i said or you've written it down wrong no i double checked this one
uh i've written it down right i remember arcel he did a royal affair which I have not seen
or know about
Dean is
nah this one's definitely changed
because his last name
has changed to Israelite
which I don't think
no that's autocorrect
it's gone mad
sure
he's the director
of the upcoming sci-fi film
Yesterday
whoever that guy is
he's being considered
haven't seen the trailer for it
meant to look it up
don't know
the only one I really know
is Jonathan Levine
he did Warm Bodies
and 50-50.
50-50 is great.
Warm Bodies is okay.
Fantastic.
Yeah.
Any thoughts on those directors?
One of which I didn't
get the name right?
No.
Mads Mikkelsen.
I know Mads Mikkelsen.
He was Le Chiffre.
Yep.
Le Traife.
Uh-huh.
He's Hannibal also
in the Hannibal series.
Yeah, and he was
the Bond villain
with the blood eye.
And he's in some sort of
European dog detective show
you know one of those ones
okay
you know it's like a
Inspector Rex
kind of thing
is it Inspector Rex
I think he's
no he's in one of those
cool
maybe there's no dog
but I think it's funnier
if there's a dog
it sure is
yeah
apparently he's up
for the title role
one of the people
oh okay
we've also heard
John Depp
Jonathan Depp
John Depp
yep
we've also heard the guy frompp. Jonathan Depp? John Depp. Yep.
We've also heard the guy from Mad Men.
John Hamm.
Jonathan Hamms.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Well, he's supposed to be
a surgeon, isn't he,
before he goes mystic?
Yep.
So, I think you could
chuck in a John Hamm.
Yeah, okay.
Or not.
Yeah.
Doesn't really matter.
Or an actual surgeon.
Or an actual vet.
Patrick Dempsey.
He was a surgeon.
Yeah, good point.
In real life?
No, actor. Okay, good. I've gotten things confused again. The real world's confusing. Alright, Mason. Patrick Dempsey He was a surgeon Yeah good point In real life? No
Actor
Okay good
I've gotten things confused again
The real world's confusing
Alright Mason
Gotham News
Here we go
Sad news in a way
Yes
But before we get into that
Jada Pinkett Smith
People say
It's from the Matrix trilogy
But it's really
The last two
The last two
Not good Matrixes
Yep great
She's been cast as
Fish Mooney
Remember last week I said Fish Mooney I meant to ask her I said have you ever Heard of Fish Mooney? Because great. She's been cast as Fish Mooney. Remember last week I said Fish Mooney?
I meant to ask you, I said, have you ever heard of Fish Mooney?
Because I'd never heard of them. Apparently Fish Mooney
is made up for this show.
Not a good name for a gangster, is it? Fish Mooney.
She's Fish Mooney.
Yes.
I don't like it. Do you want to hear Fish Mooney's deal?
Is she a fish? Yes.
Okay, I think I've got the deal then.
What has Jada Pinkett Smith been in since the Matrix movie?
Surely she's been in something else.
She's got a band.
Doesn't count.
I'm sure she's in a rom-com where she's a best friend.
Oh, that's probably it.
No, she's still abrasive to be a best friend.
You don't like the Smith family?
I'm going to look it up while you tell me the deal with Fish Mooney.
Sure.
I've just got, is a fish here.
Oh, we nailed that. No, as sadistic gangster boss and nightclub owner, Why don't you tell me the deal with Fish Mooney? Sure. I've just got, is a fish here. So...
Oh, we nailed that.
Yeah.
No, a sadistic gangster boss and nightclub owner,
Fish Mooney's got the street smarts
and almost extra sensory abilities
to rude people,
to read people like an open book.
Fish Mooney.
Sounds like she's got like a psychic link thing.
I always think that like a female gangster should have a sexy name.
Like Fish Mooney.
Like Fish Mooney.
So we've nailed this.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, totally.
Anything in particular?
Like legs kick back?
Yeah, legs kick back, certainly.
But there's like Roulette.
Oh, yeah.
She's a DC villain.
That's a sexy lady name, right?
Yeah, you're right.
Gangster kind of name.
Gambling.
It's got all that in there.
Often when they add characters to like comic book TV shows, they don't really gel well with the rest. Yeah, you're right. Gangster kind of name. Gambling, it's got all that in there. Often when they add characters to like comic book
TV shows, they don't really gel
well with the rest. Yeah, I guess so.
Maybe it'll work really well. I think this
person, she's signed on for a year. I think she
purely exists for
Oswell Cobblepot to be a henchman and then for him
to take over from her. That's what I assume
this is about. Yes, yes. And then Matrix
4. Yeah. Did you find out if she was in anything?
She was in Collateral. There you go. And then Matrix 4. Yeah. Did you find out if she was in anything? She was in Collateral.
There you go.
I don't remember that.
She was in...
She's been in some animated films.
She's been in the Madagascar films.
Oh, yeah.
She's the zebra.
And she was in
Reign Over Me
with...
She was in what?
Reign Over Me.
It's got...
Oh, yeah.
I've seen it.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, yeah.
There you go.
And Adam Sandler
plays Shadow the Colossus in it.
That's a great game.
Okay, yeah.
And Don Cheadle, yeah.
So, anyway, Gotham News.
Yes.
Thanks to everybody who participated in the hashtag McKenzie mustache debacle.
It was an absolute amazing feedback from people.
So many people got on board.
Bombarded him.
Too many to name, but I've got a few shoutouts that I'd like to give.
Okay, please do.
Josh Walker photoshopped a nice photo of Benjamin McKenzie with a moustache.
That was great.
That was good.
Photoshop's probably too strong a word there.
MS painted, but I love it.
MS painted.
Doesn't matter.
No.
Like I said, every moustache helps.
Exactly.
People such as Alex Wigger and Victor S-A-H-A-G-U-N.
S-A-H-A-G-U-N.
Anyway, they signed up for Twitter specifically to harass Benjamin McKenzie.
That's what Twitter's for.
I know.
E.H. Von Bronstein made an amazing poster.
You know it's got the bat symbol mustache?
Yes, I did see that.
You see that one?
That was great.
That was amazing.
So good.
And that inspired Baked Boons.
Good friend of the show, Baked Boons.
Love that guy.
No, he's good.
I like him.
He was inspired to grow his own batman style mustache
oh i'd like to see progress on that i know me too um there's too many supporters to name yeah
that being said mackenzie mustache was a failure benjamin so far it's a work in progress it's a
work in progress i say we continue to hack at him all right you're right no response at all
no response at all did he block anyone he probably blocked us block anyone? He probably blocked us. Not aware of that.
Don't know.
But I do know that he has been on Twitter this week because there was a few days where
he wasn't doing anything.
He retweeted...
He's probably undercover.
He probably got underground.
That's it.
Out of fear of hashtag Mackenzie mustache.
What I thought maybe, I thought, do we go on the attack?
Do we harass Benjamin Mackenzie more?
But then I thought, no, that's not how things get done.
We go to his...
No.
We've been super nice to Benjamin McKenzie.
Say something like, if you're going to continue it, and we would love it if you did,
be like, Benjamin McKenzie, big fan of your character in the OC.
Maybe you should have ended up with Marissa or whatever.
Uh-huh, sure.
That being said.
Did that not happen?
No, because she died.
Oh.
Because she was too good for television.
Sad.
Now she's too good for nothing.
Yeah, that's right.
Because she's not doing anything. Yeah. So say something's too good for nothing. Yeah, that's right. Because she's not doing anything.
Yeah.
So say something nice to Benjamin McKenzie.
Yeah.
Be nice to him.
We'll kill him with kindness and then we'll kill him in real life if he doesn't respond.
That's right.
So yeah.
Try to be nice and then...
I think we...
I was going to say we should cut this, but do you reckon we should keep it going?
Yeah.
So if you've tweeted him, can you tweet him again?
Can we?
Or tell a friend.
Tell a friend.
Tell a friend, hey, sign up for Twitter and do this weird thing. Yeah. That's what it's for. That's right. Yeah. So if you've tweeted him, can you tweet him again? Can we? Or tell a friend. Tell a friend. Tell a friend, hey, sign up for Twitter and do this weird thing.
Yeah.
That's what it's for.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Because he would have noticed.
There's no way he would not have noticed that.
Even though he's got 100,000 followers.
He would have noticed those at mentions just lighten up.
Yeah.
That's it.
So same thing.
Ask him if he's going to have a moustache.
Say something nice about him.
Yeah.
Hey, you'd look really great with a moustache. P.S. Will you have a moustache. Say something nice about him. Yeah. Hey, you'd look really great with a moustache.
P.S.
Will you have a moustache for Gotham?
Stuff like that.
Yeah.
Hey, you've been working out.
Nice biceps, Mackenzie.
You look after yourself.
Shame you look like an idiot, like a weird muscle-bound idiot without a moustache.
Maybe you should do that for Gotham.
We'll get an answer out of this guy.
Absolutely.
And please, at MrSundayMoviesBeInIt.
Or Mason at WikipediaBrown. Correct. Or the Weekly Planet on TwitterundayMovies, be in it. Or Mason at Wikipedia Brown.
Correct.
Or the Weekly Planet on Twitter.
Not all of them, then.
That's too many characters.
No, just do one.
Pick one.
Pick just the one, yeah.
Yeah.
So let's get this guy, Mason.
Yeah, let's get him good.
With kindness.
Yeah.
Because he's probably a nice guy.
So we want to entice him.
Yeah.
The carrot's more than the stick, Mason.
Yeah.
The carrot doesn't work.
If you...
We're going to hit him with the stick, though.
What we should do is we should look up
his like
manager
his agent's PO box
yep
and like send him like
moustache related things
like moustache combs
like moustache combs
exactly
hey you might be needing this
send him a moustache comb
good times
yeah great
good times on the internet
so really thank you
and you know what
it shows how much people support the show.
Yeah, that's a big one.
Because sometimes we don't know if people are listening, Mason.
Do we?
I'm certainly listening.
You are.
To a degree.
You're half here.
I'm half here.
I'm half buying things on the internet.
That's right.
I'm half buying things on the internet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Look, Mason.
The biggest news from this week, though.
Aside from everybody loving the Fantastic Four.
Is that Guardians of the Galaxy, the trailer,
exploded onto the internet.
Hooked on a feeling!
That was out. Did you know that sales on that yeah on spike like
700 on itunes yeah big time yeah you know what i'm glad they've claimed that song back from
ali mcbeal because i think that was an ali mcbeal thing was ali mcbeal but before that was reservoir
dogs oh yeah that's right there you go yeah so something cool has got it back again there you
go yeah that dancing baby really pissed me off, Mason.
Do you want to air a grudge against a baby right now?
It's your platform, yeah.
You're right, it is.
But I'm a bit of a fray.
Okay, good.
I'm a bit of a fray.
Did it hook you on a feeling, Mason?
I've written that here.
Oh, I get it.
That's good.
It's very clever.
Did it?
Yeah, I enjoyed it.
It looked good.
Although, and again, this is, maybe I'm glad for this, we don't really know what the plot is.
No, but I think I know why.
Okay.
This is very much an origin.
Because they haven't made it yet.
They haven't made it.
But this is very much an origins trailer.
Uh-huh.
Where it's like, these are the characters and what they're about.
Uh-huh.
Because most people don't know who these guys are.
Correct.
You know what I find really amusing though?
What's that?
Marvel release a thing where they're like, hey, there's a cartoon raccoon
that it's kind of weird, right?
And people are like,
yes!
And Fox are like,
we've got Wolverine!
And everyone's like,
shut up!
Have you noticed that?
Yeah, well,
we've seen enough.
We know what Wolverine
can do at this point.
Yeah, that's right.
Like maybe Rocket Raccoon
has like stink sacks,
you know?
In real stink upper place.
I think you're thinking
of Skunks. Yeah, still. He's a space racpper place. I think you're thinking of Skucks.
Yeah, still.
He's a space raccoon, though.
That's true.
A spaccoon.
Well, we are going to get into this, but is he has the physiology of an Earth raccoon?
Yes.
Even though he's a space raccoon, that's right?
Yeah.
Anyway, we'll get into that later.
I thought it had a very Indiana Jones vibe, Mason.
Oh, really?
Initially to start with.
You know, he grabs a thing and it's a trap and whatever.
You don't think so?
Because he's a kind of hand solo Indiana Jones kind of rogue.
I think that's wishful thinking on your part.
Is it?
I think he's more Andy from Parks and Rec stealing something out of the fridge that doesn't belong
to him.
I'm happy with that.
Yeah, that's still a good deal.
Yeah, yeah.
Also, it's obviously going for a lighter tone.
Yes.
And even though Iron Man 3 for a lighter tone. Yes.
And even though Iron Man 3 was a lighter movie and a lot of these movies are,
this one, I saw some people complain and go,
oh, another fucking comedy or whatever from Marvel.
But Guardians of the Galaxy is supposed to be
a wacky, funny kind of left-of-centre adventure.
Well, some of it's a bit.
Some of it, yeah, yeah, exactly.
But so I think that tone fits this more.
Am I right or am I wrong?
I am right, you're right.
He's nodding.
You know what?
Again, you know I love a romp.
And if this is going to be a romp, I'm on board 100%.
That's why you love Star Trek Into Darkness for some reason.
First 20 minutes or whatever it is, first 15 minutes, what a romp.
That's it.
Yeah.
Peter Serafinowicz is in it as well.
Yeah.
It's Serafinowicz, apparently.
Oh, okay, cool.
No, I learned that as well, yeah.
Oh, cool. Yeah. He's the voice of Darth Maul. It's Sarah Finowitz apparently. Oh, okay, cool. No, I learned that as well, yeah. Oh, cool.
He's the voice of Darth Maul.
He's a very famous British actor.
He's in all the Simon Pegg, Nick Frost bits and pieces.
He does that amazing...
Does he do like 50 impressions in one minute?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, that's great.
It ends up being like 14 impressions that he does.
And they're all terrible, yeah.
And they're all terrible.
It's great.
Look up Peter Sarah Finowitz.
Sarah Finowitz?
Sarah Finowitz. But not spelt witch. No's great. Look up Peter Serafinowicz. Serafinowich? Serafinowich.
But not spelt witch.
No.
Spell it however it's spelt.
Yep.
We can't help you.
Learn that.
Yeah.
You know what?
Google will fill it in for you.
It's fine.
They sure will.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All those good people at Google.
I think there's a team dedicated to that man.
Just directing all that traffic.
Yeah.
Yeah, so any other thoughts on the trailer?
Looks really good.
Zoe Saldana's a... She's green now. She's not really good. Zoe Saldana, she's green now.
She's not blue.
She's been blue.
Now she's green.
You can't be black in space.
It doesn't work.
Apparently not.
Yeah, yeah.
Except for Korath.
He's going to be.
Oh, yeah.
Good point.
Yeah, he can be black in space.
Big departure from what his look is like in the comics, as we noticed this before this.
We looked up him.
He looks like a pink juggernaut in the comics, really.
That's right.
Exactly.
Yeah. Well, look. We all think it's going to be a success, don't we,
Mason? We don't know that.
We all think it. We don't. Stop saying it.
Stop putting words in my mouth. I'm happy, though,
we're getting something new.
As much as I like all the Marvel, not all the Marvel movies,
some better than others, this is something we have not
seen before from Marvel.
The closest thing we've had from a Marvel movie that's
close is Howard the Duck, which
is the first Marvel movie.
So this is kind of, I don't know, we haven't had a good kind of Star Wars-ish kind of movie
really.
That's very true.
Since probably Star Wars.
Oh, Serenity's great.
There you go, there's one.
So I don't know, I think I'd love to see this kind of world building kind of thing and then
for the new Star Wars to tank.
It's the spirits.
Nah, we're about to succeed as well.
But they're the same company now.
They are, yeah.
They're both Disney.
Oh, what if they cross them over?
Well, Patton Oswalt did this amazing rant.
I don't know if you've seen it.
He's in an episode of Parks and Rec where he's filibustering.
Right.
Is that the word where they just keep talking?
Yes, it is.
It is, yeah.
And basically they needed him to fill in some time.
So he basically does this amazing Star Wars slash Marvel crossover.
Uh-huh.
He speaks for like five minutes and it involves Thanos and the Infinity Gems and all those
kind of things.
Infinity Gauntlet, sorry.
And all those kind of things and how it all comes together in one massive universe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's great.
Ooh.
We'll never see it happen, but would you love it?
I would love it actually, yeah.
We thought for this week.
Yes.
We would go through the Guardians of the Galaxy.
Uh-huh.
I made a video on my YouTube channel.
It's like eight minutes.
If you want to know a brief summary of the Guardians of the Galaxy, go and check it out.
Mr. Sunday to Sunday or Mr. Movies.
My YouTube channel.
You've been there, haven't you, Mason?
On occasion, sure.
I'm legally required to.
But we thought we'd maybe go into depth in the Guardians of the Galaxy.
Okay, yeah.
Your assignment this week, Mason, was looking up...
My homework.
Your homework was looking up old Guardians of the Galaxy.
Well, I had planned to reread the entire Guardians of the Galaxy oeuvre
from like 1969 until whenever.
But my laptop stopped working and I haven't bought another one yet.
Would you say that was a blessing in disguise?
Yes, definitely.
Not even a blessing in disguise.
Just a regular blessing.
Flat out blessing.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
God, I was not looking...
I never look forward to going back and just wading through exposition.
Yeah.
I'll use my optic blast on this thing.
You know?
And then they say their name?
Yeah, then they say their name.
Yeah.
That's it. Well, look, there was an their name, yeah. Yeah, that's it.
Well, look, there was an original Guardians 10.
That wasn't there from 1969.
It's gone in and out of favour over the years.
It's definitely not one of the most popular comics,
but it has stuck around.
Yeah, yeah.
It was sort of relaunched in the 90s.
Yeah, sure.
Which was a weird choice for the 90s,
because in the 90s everything was really extreme.
It was, wasn't it?
The 90s was that era where everybody either
became more extreme
or they discovered they had a more extreme counterpart.
So, like, Ghost Rider had Vengeance and, like, Batman.
Ghost Rider, the flaming skull, had a more extreme version.
There was a more extreme version of him, yeah.
What did he ride?
Even bigger steamroller.
No, it was basically the same,
except you had, like, more horns on the skull. Okay. In the Ghost Rider, the second basically the same, except you had more horns on the skull.
Okay.
In the Ghost Rider, the second Ghost Rider film, I assumed that Idris Elba's character
was going to turn into vengeance, but he didn't.
Oh, right, yeah, yeah.
Which is very disappointing.
Yeah.
The rest of the movie was great, though.
Was it?
No.
I haven't seen it.
But yeah, so Batman had the Azrael Batman.
Azrael, yeah.
Superman became the four different Superman.
Superboy.
Very extreme. Vanilla Rice haircut.
So super great fade.
Thor had Thunderstrike. Yep.
I can do it with anything. Name one.
Wonder Woman. Artemis.
Batman. I just did that one.
Like literally seconds ago I did that one. Superboy.
No, that was... No, you've ruined this. Hang on. Green Lantern.
Yeah, he had Parallax.
Hang on. Hulk. Yeah he had Parallax He went super extreme Hang on
Hulk
Uh
Oh hang on
I fucking gotcha
You did get
I bet there's one though
I'm sure there is
There's the
Future Imperfect Hulk
Who was like
The future version of Hulk
Okay
Who went insane
And like killed everybody
Insane with love?
Yeah insane with love
For killing people
That might have been
Early 2000s
I'm claiming it anyway How do you like that? I'm against it Yeah But I'll let it pass and like killed everybody. Insane with love? Yeah, insane with love. For killing people. That might have been early 2000s.
I'm claiming it anyway.
How do you like that?
I'm against it.
Yeah.
But I'll let it pass.
Yeah.
Also, he went savage again in the 90s.
Okay, yeah, yeah. Because he was the Grey Hulk for a while.
He did, yeah.
And then he went savage
and then he became Nerd Hulk.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The least popular Hulk.
I enjoyed that one.
That was my era.
I didn't rate it.
Yeah, okay, good.
There we go.
Do you want to talk about the original team at all?
Throughout the episode,
just name a character. I'll throw it out there. And I'll do you want to talk about the original team throughout the episode just name name a
character
I'll throw it out
there and I'll
give you more
extreme counterpart
sure I mean
obviously
that's true
obviously I'll give
you warning before
I do it
no just say it
Spider-Man
no wait you
just did that one
just did that one
fuck
all right
original team
Mason
anything you want
to say about them
uh
no they were they were yeah were a 90s team.
I'm talking about the 60s team.
Yeah, but that's the same.
That's the same team.
Okay, sorry.
There was a little bit of...
They're all kind of...
They're all sort of the last of their kind.
They're all kind of like, you know,
one guy genetically engineered to live on Jupiter.
Yeah, exactly.
Charlie 27, I think it was his name.
That was the woman I can't remember who was genetically engineered to live on Jupiter for some reason or whatever Charlie 27 I think it was his name yep that was the woman I can't remember
who was genetically
engineered to live
on Mercury
one was from
Pluto
they're all pretty much
because they're from
the 60s
I presume they just went
what's planets that we know
and nobody knows
anything about
because there was
obviously not the technology
to see other planets
I'd imagine as much
as there is now
I assume that that
has developed
I have no idea
but so they just go what's a planet we don't know what's on Pluto let's just say they're from Pluto other planets, I'd imagine, as much as there is now. I assume that that has developed. I have no idea.
But, so they just go, what's a planet?
We don't know what's on Pluto.
Let's just say they're from Pluto.
Yep.
You know?
Uh-huh.
So, hey.
And he's a crystal man from Pluto?
Yeah, he's a crystal man from Pluto, yeah.
That's on the video.
I've immediately forgotten it.
No, exactly. It's not why, yeah.
I've immediately forgotten it.
But, yeah.
So, is that stuff worth a read, though?
I mean, is there any particular...
Like, plot lines or storylines?
Sure, I guess.
Not really, because there's not really any...
There's barely any crossover between the original Guardians from the 31st century
and the modern-day Guardians.
There is some crossover.
Well, there's Vance Astro, who comes back in time,
and the new guys meet him and decide to call themselves the Guardians of the Galaxy based on him.
But that's it.
That's all you need to know, basically.
That's true, exactly, yeah.
Vance Astro, he was a mutant, is that correct?
Yes.
And because he's super old, he has that suit to keep him from dying.
Yes, dispersing as an energy being, I think, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, and he carries Captain America's shield.
Not all the time, but he has.
Sometimes he does.
You know what, there was an old...
Sometimes he eats cereal out of it.
Now I remember, there was an old Guardians of the Galaxy storyline where they have to fight Doctor Doom, who
somehow lived till the 30th century, and he's wearing Wolverine's skeleton as a suit of
armour.
Oh, that's pretty cool.
So find that issue.
That's the 90s in a nutshell.
Wolverine!
Um, oh, hang on.
Probably Weapon X.
Oh, yeah, yeah, fair point.
Yeah, yeah. You got me. Yeah., yeah, yeah, fair point. Yeah, yeah.
You got me.
Yeah.
You son of a bitch.
Yeah.
Also, there's going to be some crossover into the new one as well.
I'm assuming Van Sastro will not be in this movie, I'd imagine.
It would be weird, yeah.
But Yondu, who's part of the original team, he is in the new movie.
Michael Rooker's playing him.
Oh, yeah.
And he's an associate of Peter Quill.
Okay.
So I think some of it, they're changing.
When you started, when you said last week,
hey, let's do a little bit of research on Guardians of the Galaxy,
and you were like, you know what, I'll do it.
You said I'll do it on the day, right?
I'll do it the night before.
It's going to be real easy.
Have you found it real easy?
It's been an absolute fucking waking nightmare
because it's like because i love i love comic book cosmology i love the the whole you know the
space universe part of the marvel universe yeah but it is really like if somebody said to you
if you didn't know anything about comic books and somebody said to you hey learn every character in
the marvel universe by tomorrow it's like that like that. Yeah, that's exactly right.
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
That's exactly it.
And the thing is as well,
I've been reading some Guardians of the Galaxy
from a few months back.
I wasn't a fan of them before.
I know people get upset if people are like,
people are jumping on the bandwagon,
because whatever, you know.
I was not a fan.
Yeah.
Also, what's wrong with jumping on the bandwagon?
It's fine, yeah, exactly.
Learn about a new thing.
Yeah.
We weren't all there at the origin of issue one of whatever.
Well, we bloody should have been.
We should have been.
You're right.
We are idiots.
So I'll be reading it
for a while,
probably maybe,
since they probably announced it.
So I've been kind of
coming back and forth to it.
But even then,
like every now and then
they'll be like,
this is a guy,
and I'm like,
and then I have to,
I'm like,
who the fuck is this?
So I have to go look it up.
And then I'm like,
okay, so he was in
a team in the 70s and then he died and he came back. I'm like, right, okay, this? So I have to go look it up. And then I'm like, okay, so he was in a team in the 70s,
and then he died and he came back.
I'm like, right, okay, yep.
Makes sense, sure.
Now I can continue reading this.
It's like doing research, reading a lot of this.
Yeah, it is, yeah.
There's so much stuff.
It is not a comic.
I've got some recommended readings of this,
but it is not a comic to jump into if you know nothing about comics.
That's very true.
I know.
Look, I've always said well
when i got the comic book movie side job thing jim little the boss he's like what do you know
about what are your skills and i go look i know movies i don't know comic book movies
i'm like comics knowledge is okay but there's a lot of gaps right right but i found this but
it's better than average whatever not as Not as good as yours, because you know some weird shit.
But I found it a real struggle to condense this.
Destroyer Duck is the more extreme version of Power of the Duck.
If you were going to spring that on me at any point, it's Destroyer Duck.
You're ready.
You're ready for me.
So yeah, it's probably not the best team to start with.
All this cosmic stuff is confusing. But also, it is a good read.
The newer stuff.
I've written down the book tour.
I was going to mention this
at the end.
There's Volume 1 Legacy
which started in 2008
which is the Guardians of the Galaxy
volume.
You can kind of,
it's kind of new,
kind of reader friendly.
And there's a lot of stuff in it
like there's a character
who joins at one point
and he's like,
I hate all the cosmic stuff.
Right.
It's confusing
and it's bullshit or whatever.
So there is ways into it
you know what I mean
but yeah
there you go
where did I even
get onto this
I was mocking you
but you can go back
wherever you were
again
just start again
it's fine
Starhawk was also
an original member
he makes an appearance
in the new team as well
he's banging around
through time
and space
so he turns up as well
and he's
his alliances kind of waver and you and he's all about the timeline or whatever.
No.
Or not.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
It's fine.
Yeah.
What are your experiences with the Guardians of the Galaxy?
As a kid, it was one of those groups that I was always going to get into, but I never
quite got around to.
Sure.
It looked like too much work.
Yeah.
Because you had that breakdance crew.
Yeah, exactly.
You were very busy. I was so busy. Yeah yeah modern day guardians of the galaxy you know what it's weird because
they were sort of formed in the annihilation storylines which started like 2006 which was
the exact same time as civil war okay and so you know if you didn't if you couldn't buy all the
marvel books ever you sort of had to pick one. Yeah. Otherwise it would make no sense.
And I think most people went with Civil War.
They did, yeah.
Because it's characters they recognize.
That's right, yeah.
But yeah, this whole other intergalactic space war poised to destroy the entire universe
was happening.
Yep.
Outside the solar system.
Yeah.
And nobody noticed.
Yeah.
Which is weird, right?
That is weird.
Yeah, yeah.
Maybe we can go through the characters, Mason.
Yeah.
I was actually going to as far as like space
if you wanna get
as kind of a grounding
in the Marvel space stuff
without going insane
yeah
there was a storyline
from the 90s
called Operation Galactic Storm
yeah
where there was the
there was a war
between the Kree
and the Shi'ar
which were kind of like
the you know
two major Marvel alien races
and the Avengers
have to go up
into space and stop it
yep
and that's actually really good.
When's that from, sorry?
Like the 90s.
Cool.
Mid-90s.
The best time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right.
How extreme was it?
It wasn't that extreme.
Fantastic Four!
Fantastic Force.
You idiots.
God.
It had Sue Storm and Reed Richards' son grown up
because he was from the future and he came to the past. Of course he was.
What was his powers? He's got telekinesis and all sorts of stuff.
Was he a smug dickhead?
Did he take that from Reed Richards? Yeah, he was smug-ish.
Yeah. Sure.
Great. So yeah, why don't we talk about
the modern Team Mason and tie it into the trailer.
Okay, I'm ready.
This I kind of can follow, because I've been reading this.
So I can do this.
But yeah, basically it starts with Peter Quill.
Now he's a mixture of human and spa toy, I believe.
Yes.
Yep.
Which gives him many qualities, but mostly he's just a regular guy.
It's pretty much that, really.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's it.
Now in some versions he's an astronaut where he's taken the Peter Quill mantle.
I think in the movie version he's been kidnapped.
Yes, exactly, yeah.
Which is very Corsair.
You know, Cyclops' dad?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
The space pirate.
Because he was abducted from Earth
and he became a space pirate.
But I guess since Fox isn't going to use that element
because it's dumb,
that's freely available for Marvel to use it.
So that's how they're how
they're going there yeah that's it now yeah as i said he's just a guy but he's a weapons expert
he's got that suit which means he can travel through space and whatever you know what do
you think of chris pratt as the the casting you know what initially i wasn't i wasn't sold on as
much as i like chris pratt and i do and you saw the abs no so the abs and i was like yes
no because i heard that joel Edgerton was going for it.
And I was rooting for Joel Edgerton because I really like Joel Edgerton.
Not just because he's Australian.
You know I'm a patriot, Mason. I know you are.
I'm such a patriot.
What was I saying?
Chris Pratt.
Yeah, because he's great in Warrior.
Joel Edgerton as well.
And I was like, I would have rather Joel Edgerton.
But I've definitely warmed to it.
And the trailer's been nothing but confirmed this for me.
What about you?
Is he too wacky?
I mean there's elements of wackiness
to the character in the comic books.
The look is largely irrelevant
because you very rarely see
you don't often see his face in the
In the new one you do.
Yeah okay
but he's very generic.
Yeah exactly.
So I think you could really
put anyone in there
because most of the time
he's under the mask. He might strike me as a little wacky but I think he could really put anyone in there because most of the time he's under the mask
so he might strike me
as a little wacky
but I think he might
grow into it
as the film progresses
yeah
some people I know
felt the humour
was a bit forced
in the trailer
which may have been the case
but it would seem forced though
I mean maybe it is forced
in the final product
but when you take snippets
of humour from a movie
it's often
you need the context
and whatever else
for it to not feel forced
but hey maybe it is forced and clearly he has some sort of attachment to that Walkman of humour from a movie. It's often, you need the context and whatever else for it to not feel forced. Uh-huh, yeah.
But hey,
maybe it is forced.
And clearly he has
some sort of
attachment to that Walkman.
Well, I think that...
Because that's what
came with him
when he was kidnapped.
Yeah, exactly.
And that's his only link
to Earth or whatever.
But I love that bit
in the trailer.
You think he could go
back to Earth then,
don't you?
You would think that.
I mean,
they know where it is.
He's a spaceman.
He's got a spaceship.
He has a ship.
Yeah.
You think you could just
go right back to earth i don't know maybe it's what you end up knowing i guess yeah yeah yeah
but hey why would you go back to earth though if you could fly maybe the greatest space journey is
in your heart maybe or maybe it's literally in space yeah you're right actually yeah that's
much bigger i love that scene though in the uh in the in the trailer where he hears the music playing
and then it kind of amps up and then shocks him and
you think it's going to kick straight into the song and then it just does those drum beats right
right it's great yeah yeah fuck ellen mcfeel yeah uh yeah look i can give you a little bit of
information on the actual character i'm ready because as i said as we said it was an origins
kind of trailer uh and from that we got a little bit of information text, which tells you about that particular
person.
Yep.
So, this is for Peter Quill, because you know, they've all been arrested in the thing or
whatever.
Okay, so, alias Star Wars, species...
Did you enjoy the obscene gesture?
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, that was fun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Species Terran, it says.
Terran, from Earth.
All right.
Oh, yeah, of course.
You're an idiot.
Am I?
Yes!
Or am I the biggest idiot?
Oh, no, that's it. You're right. Orig Am I? Yes. Or am I the biggest idiot? Oh no, that's it.
You're right.
Origins Terror.
Don't know what that means.
It says enhancements.
He's got a translator in his neck.
So that would come in handy.
Well yeah, because originally that character...
He's one of those characters they keep...
They don't retcon him really, but they keep...
He gets different implants and skills.
Yeah, he's been a cyborg for a while.
He had like a bionic eye and stuff like that.
And they've since removed it.
I think they're probably going to skip most of that.
Yeah.
Just plug that translator in.
Exactly, because that's really all you need.
And that explains why everybody speaks English and blah, blah, blah.
It's just easier.
Why in Man of Steel could everybody speak English?
Is there a scene where they learn English?
Yeah, there is actually.
Great.
There's a 40 minute scene.
Oh, yeah.
I remember watching that.
A bit long.
But I learned English better.
You did.
You sure did.
Yeah.
Because you're a bloody foreigner, Mason.
Because I'm so Australian.
I don't know if you know this.
I'm a patriot.
I know you're a patriot.
Steady on, mate.
Jesus.
Criminal record though.
Or it says Associates Yonda Udonta, which is Yondu from the original guy. Jesus. Criminal record, though. It says, Associates Yonda Udonta,
which is Yondu from, you know,
the original guy or whatever.
Criminal record.
One count of fraud.
Two counts of assault slash drunkenness.
One count sex crime.
Wait a second.
Yeah, it says,
illegal manipulation of Gramosean Duchess.
So he's probably fondled someone.
I didn't say so, yeah.
He seems a bit listed from Red Dwarf.
Yeah, sure.
That's a great show, isn't it?
Have we talked about Red Dwarf enough on this show?
At length.
Endlessly.
Yeah.
So there you go.
Yeah, I think he's a good casting choice,
and I think that's going to be good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Should we go to the next person?
Yes.
Or do you want to talk about Lister from Red Dwarf?
He was here recently.
He DJ'd.
Who was he?
Craig Charles.
I missed it.
I forgot it was on.
Would have been great, though.
Sure.
Next up, Gamora, or Gamera, whatever you want to call it.
I'm going to say Gamora.
I'm going to say...
Gamera's more the monster from Godzilla.
Very good point.
She's the last of her kind, which most of these guys are, by the way.
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of these guys are.
I guess that is the only link between them and the original Guardians of the Galaxy,
that they're all the last of their kind.
Yeah, or the only one of their kind.
She was raised by Thanos.
I think he killed her family,
or planet, or something like that,
and then took her on board.
So she's an assassin,
and good at stealth,
and a gymnast,
and she does all the stuff.
She can flip kick.
She can maybe do that thing
where she goes up on someone's shoulders
with her legs,
and then does a spin.
And snaps their neck?
Yeah.
I bet there's one of those.
Does a spin.
I think you're probably right.
Yeah.
I think there's definitely one of those in there.
Yeah.
She's also got, this is in the comic recently, she's got a healing factor where she gets
torched by, I think, solar radiation and she's just burnt to a crisp, no hair, skin's all
fucked up or whatever.
I've been swearing too much on this show.
I've got to cut that back.
No more.
Okay.
Every second word.
See if you can do it.
Done.
Sorry. I've been swearing too much on this show. I've got to cut that back. No more. Every second word. See if you can do it. Done. So she's got a healing factor, but it's not really to that of Wolverine.
And I said this in the video, or it is because Wolverine's healing factor changes.
It took her a few issues to kind of come back from that.
Right.
There's an issue right at the start of Civil War.
Yeah.
Because we're talking about Civil War.
We were.
There's an issue where...
It was an issue, wasn't there?
Shut up.
Because there was conflict.
Shut up.
I'm going to hate you again.
I'm going to be a hater on you any second now.
But there's one issue where there's a villain called Nitro,
and his power is he can explode and then reform himself.
Okay.
And he gets all up in Wolverine's face, and he explodes,
and Wolverine is reduced to an adamantium skeleton.
Like, that's it.
Like, no eye sockets, no organs.
Just the skeleton, from what you can tell.
And then the next panel, he's fine again.
Ha!
Like, you see, he blows up and he's just the skeleton.
Then you see Nitro like, ha ha, I've done it, I've defeated him.
And then, like, he turns around and Wolverine's fine again.
He's even grown all his hair back.
I was going to say, and brain cells?
Yeah, I guess so.
And memories?
There must have been something left.
I don't know.
But it's ridiculous, right?
I guess his brain
is inside his skull, though.
Oh, yeah.
So assuming that wasn't
turned to a crisp, sure.
But there's also in,
what's the one,
the Age of Ultron,
where he goes into
the alternative future
and he gets his leg,
kind of,
the flesh around his leg
disintegrates.
And he goes to stand up
and he's like,
and then he passes out
and then it cuts to
a few days later when his leg is healed. So there's also that and they're not that far apart
right exactly they change that all the time all the time and he was missing an eye for a while
yeah an eye patch in the age of apocalypse thing he's missing an like cyclops shot his arm that's
right his hand never grew back so then who knows it's almost as if it's comic book logic and none
of it makes any sense it's almost like that that, you're right. No, it's like that, yeah. Almost, yeah.
Basically, she's 24, it says.
Oh, this is for the movie information.
Uh-huh.
Her weight is 2,000...
Wait a second, is that Earth years or space years?
It says Zambahari years, which is her race.
Z-E-H-O-B-E-R-I.
You know it's one of those things where you read it in the comics, but you have no idea
what it actually sounds like out loud.
Exactly, yeah.
And I can't read read I think that's a
fairly common nerd
yeah it is
trait is that you've
read a word
many many times
but you have no idea
how it's said
because you've never
used it in real life
you've never heard
it used anywhere
because you don't
want to bring it up
with anybody
because they'll beat
you up
they'll beat you up
exactly yeah
but I think it's
weight is 2008 grits
which I assume
is a reference
to the new comic,
which came out in 2008.
She better trim down a little.
I wonder what her diet regime is for this film.
Let's ask her.
Let's ask her in all the interviews, just like Scarlett Johansson.
Enhancements.
Now, she does have cybernetic appendages, ocular and respiratory implants,
enhanced neurological system.
Another thing that Peter Quill had at one point, he had a memory chip where he could remember everything. genetic appendages, ocular and respiratory implants, enhanced neurological system.
Another thing that Peter Quill had at one point, he had a memory chip where he could remember everything.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
That was another thing that he had.
I remember that, but I had my memory chip taken out.
Ah, very good.
You son of a gun.
Yep.
So, yeah.
Obviously, she's an assassin.
Everybody in space is kind of enhanced.
Well, that's the thing.
Exactly.
And that's what I said in the video. Everybody's a little bit stronger, a's an assassin. Everybody in space is kind of enhanced. Well, that's the thing. Exactly. And that's what I said in the video.
Everybody's a little bit stronger, a little bit faster.
They're good with guns and knives.
They can fly in space.
Pretty much everybody can do that.
Doesn't seem to be any laws either about having lots of guns and knives.
You can just wave them around.
That's right, yeah.
It's like the Wild West out in there in space.
That's it.
They should do some sort of sci-fi space western.
Never happen.
Yeah, don't do it.
Yeah.
It says,
description,
she's the last survivor
of her people
and her criminal record
is 12 counts of murder.
Ooh.
So yeah,
that sounds pretty true
to the books, I guess.
Who do you think
she killed
in a group of 12?
Do you think it was
Jesus' disciples?
I was going to say,
I was going to say that.
Do you think it was the seven dwarves and then five more people?
Like, hey, stop!
Yeah.
And then murdered them.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Probably, yeah.
Do you think it was the seven dwarves, the Fantastic Four from the 90s, and then a yet-to-be-named
person?
That we don't know.
Yeah.
Yeah, sure.
I'd believe that.
Destroy a duck.
Yeah.
So, yeah. I think that's pretty close to the comics. It seems that way anyway, doesn't know. Yeah. Yeah, sure. I'd believe that. Destroy a duck. Yeah. So, yeah,
I think that's pretty close
to the comics.
It seems that way anyway,
doesn't it?
Yeah.
I think at the start of this
she maybe does work for Thanos
and then she's kind of
pulled away for whatever reason.
There is an Infinity Gem
involved in this whole movie.
Oh.
There's your plot.
There's my plot.
There's your plot right there.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
There you go.
Let's move it along there, Mason.
Let's go to Drax.
Now, there was also 30-second videos of these.
You know what?
You know what I've been holding on my lap just here on this iPad?
Your iPad.
I can see it.
Yeah, but have you seen what Drax the Destroyer used to look like?
90s style?
I have not.
Cape.
WWF belt.
He looks like a giant version of the Green Goblin.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Purple and green.
Yep.
Sweet little boots, probably.
Nice little skull amulet.
He's got a big cape with a big cowl around his neck.
Oh.
It's pretty great.
Big disco collar.
Nice.
It's great, right?
In the 90s?
Yeah.
Well, you know, he's been around a long time.
We all have.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But anyway, I just wanted to show you that.
Sure, yeah, yeah.
It's great.
Just don't want to cut anything about that character.
He's ridiculous.
That's right.
Well, there's 30 second videos online where the characters, the actors who play them and
director James Gunn talk about their characters.
Uh-huh.
And the Drax one, the guy who plays Drax, Dave Batista, I think his name is?
Yeah, he's a wrestler.
He's a wrestler.
He's like, I practically am Drax.
Like, you're not really that.
I mean, it's good that you're enthusiastic.
Drax was a saxophone playing man.
Yep.
Do you think that's where the name came from?
Definitely.
Do you think they wanted to call him Draxophone?
Yes.
The Destroyer?
I'm sure Drax is from an era where,
probably like the 80s or 70s,
where having a saxophone
player or being a saxophone player in a movie is super cool.
Yeah.
In the 80s, this is big in the Lethal Weapon movies.
Whenever there's a transition, there's a saxophone solo.
There's a...
Yeah, yeah.
There's famously the Greasy Sax Man in The Lost Boys.
That's it.
Which later was parodied by Jon Hamm once out of that life.
If you want to see a real greasy
sax man oh so good
also night have you
familiar with night
man at all we've
talked about this
have we maybe not
on the podcast yeah
yeah we have on the
podcast yeah we have
briefly god tell us
no that's all we need
oh he was a he was a
jazz saxophone player
in his real life yeah
yeah until he was
struck by lightning
and then gained evil
detecting powers and
then he didn't play
the sax anymore i think he did probably played it by moonlight yeah. Until he was struck by lightning and then gained evil detecting powers. And then he didn't play the sax anymore?
I think he did.
Probably played it by moonlight.
You know he played it by moonlight.
So basically,
Drax was a human saxophone player
whose family was killed by Thanos.
What I'm saying is
there's precedent for
sax playing superheroes.
Yes, that's right.
Yeah, that's right.
His family was killed by Thanos.
I think his daughter
ended up being alive at some point.
Or not.
Well, that's a bit of a cop out.
Yeah.
But he was basically given a new body by somebody I can't remember.
Kronos.
That's right.
Who is Thanos' grandad.
Yes.
There you go.
Is he a good bloke?
He's a good amorphous energy being.
Because he kind of...
That's a big generalisation of amorphous energy being, Mason.
That's pretty racist.
No, it's true.
You know what?
If it covers enough of them,
all I'm saying is it's probably true.
Fair point.
Sometimes... I'm a patriot!
Sometimes the stereotype's true, alright?
You're right.
By the way, if you play saxophone,
it's not uncool.
Well.
Okay.
You're right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So he was given a new body
for the sole purpose of killing Thanos.
Interestingly, though...
By Kronos, his grandad interestingly though by Kronos his grandad
by Kronos his grandad
yep
exactly
they say that
in the new one
that he's a
weapon of vengeance
against Ronan the Accuser
oh okay
who is the
the principal villain
of this
Thanos is in it
and we'll talk about that in a bit
but he's the main one
because I think that way
because I think Thanos
is going to be the villain
in Avengers 3
which I think was spoken about
or may not be.
And if you just have Drax kill him, as opposed to Iron Man flying him into the sun or whatever,
they're going to end up Iron Man killing him.
Yeah.
Because that'll happen.
Then, yeah, I think that's probably the way to go.
I think it'll be a one-two punch.
I think it'll be a shield.
A shield hit to the chest, and then Iron Man will fly him into the sun.
So we can pretend that any of the other characters do anything.
Yeah, that's it.
Or maybe Black Widow will get a good, solid punch in yeah that's right and then iron man will fly
him into the sun that's it yeah now he can also i mean aside from being enhanced like everybody else
yes he can also sense thanos and this this power has waved over the years or know if somebody has
ran into him right so he made somebody's like you you're Thanos' mailman. I can tell.
Where's he live?
That'd be easy, wouldn't it?
That would be so easy.
So yeah, there you go.
Not going to believe this, Mason.
That car again
is shining right in my eyes.
That's unfortunate for you,
isn't it?
I'm going to change it
at the risk of
wrecking the sound quality
like I did last time.
Bloody car, man.
I should learn.
No.
Don't worry about it. I'll edit. No. Don't worry, though.
I'll edit this out.
No, leave it in.
That's better.
All right.
In many ways, that was a success.
Yep.
Fuck that car, man.
I want to go out and I'm going to scuff that bit of the car.
Just scratch the shit out of it.
Good.
Because it's the same spot.
Uh-huh.
Anyway. Do you want to hear me rap? Put some soap on it or something. What, doing that? I'll just scratch it. Good. Because it's the same spot. Uh-huh. Anyway.
Do you want to hear me rap?
Maybe put some soap on it or something.
What, doing that?
I'll just scratch it.
Yeah, good idea.
What, are you an idiot?
Sorry.
Okay.
I was a bit disappointed, though,
that the guy from Game of Thrones,
Jason Momoa...
Oh, Drogo.
...wasn't Drax.
This guy's great.
Don't get me wrong.
Right, right, right.
And I know he'll do a good job
because, I don't know if you know this,
he practically is Drac
I've heard that
yeah
you know how he worked out
like a mad dog
I bet he did
yeah yeah
okay so
Aelius is known
as the destroyer
species unknown
because he's obviously made
he's got enhanced
musculature
impact resistant skin
augmented cellular
regeneration
so he can also
do the thing
that Wolverine does
or doesn't do
right exactly
everybody's got that who Exactly. 22 counts of murder, 5 counts of
GBH. Grievous bodily ham. Nice. Good save. Was it? No. So yeah, we should move on from
Drax Mason. Okay. This is where it gets weird. Okay. Or not weird. Is this going to be Rocket
Raccoon? I was going to go with
Groot first but whatever.
Okay yeah Groot.
No Groot.
So Groot I think in the
movie is supposed to be
like your kind of
Chewbacca because
apparently he's the
innocent kind of good
in a fight or whatever
but he's kind of like
I'm just done.
He's saying Rocket
Raccoon is the Han Solo.
That's exactly what I'm
saying.
Huh.
Yes.
Well they are buddies.
That would be great.
Yeah it would.
Yeah you're right.
Because Star-Lord can't
be Luke Skywalker and Han Solo.
That's true.
Maybe Rocket Raccoon is Luke Skywalker or Billy Dee Williams.
Oh.
Because don't they say that all the trope is all bands of heroes,
it's like the same five?
It's like the hero, so that's Luke Skywalker.
Yeah.
It's like the Han Solo type character. The
girl.
Like the guy who's kind of like, is a bit on the edge.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like your Raphael from Ninja Turtles.
Exactly, that's right. And then you've got the girl. And then you've got the heavy, who
has two bars, I guess is gross. And then Wild Card, which is Rocket Raccoon, I guess.
Or Michelangelo. That also works for the Sex and the City characters.
Does it really?
It totally does.
Okay, Carrie is Luke Skywalker.
We're not doing it.
No, we are.
No, we are.
Okay.
Carrie's Luke Skywalker.
Miranda is...
The straight-laced one, I guess.
No.
No, that's Charlotte.
Yep.
Which one's the Wild Card?
Is it Samantha?
Samantha's the Wild Card.
How did we get here again?
It doesn't matter.
We were talking about this last week. Guys, it's Sex and the royal card. How did we get here again? Doesn't matter.
Were we talking about this last week?
Guys, it's Sex and the City talk.
We're transitioning over.
If you don't like Sex and the City,
unsubscribe.
Entourage and Sex and the City are the same show.
Yeah, I know. Just so you know.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Groot.
His powers include.
Arius Han Solo.
Do you want to talk about it?
The main guy
is like one of those
trash droids
that goes around
and has no charisma
anyway continue
Groot
Groot's the chew
Groot's the chew mark
Adrian Grenier
is a trash droid
yeah he's a trash droid
yeah
he could increase his mass
he's got strength
and whatever
Adrian Grenier
yeah
wow
yeah
that big dumb
fucking head of hair
that he rocks
no wonder he can
be on the movie
that's right
he's very strong
or whatever
he's the last of his kind
I think he's royalty
is that right
yeah I think by default
he might be royalty
okay right gotcha
he can also
he can be reduced
to something like
a tiny sapling
or a twig
and they can rebuild him
from the twig
yeah he can rebuild
from the twig
yeah
but is it the same character
healing powers
is it
yeah
I don't know
it's a good question
because you know
whenever they transfer some they're like we cloned him and now he's he's the same character? Healing powers. Is it? Yeah. I don't know. It's a good question. Because, you know, whenever they transfer some, they're like, we cloned him and now
he's the same character.
Yeah.
He's not that, is he?
No, he's a different guy.
Yeah, that one's dead.
Yeah.
It's like if you cut an earthworm in half, it actually just dies.
Have we figured?
Yes.
Do we know if Agent Coulson is, how did he come back from the dead yet?
Have we figured that out yet?
I think.
Irrelevant.
Doesn't matter.
I think it's been off the air for a few weeks. never mind remember though when it came back and they're like oh
there he is that's explained it's not explained did they just saw him poking in his brain yeah
and then everyone went got it makes sense no doesn't make sense not at all bill paxton's on
this week though check it out mason oh don't know wait paxton or paulman paxton huh from aliens
yeah is he his character from alien yes he, he is. Sure. Doesn't matter.
One of the things attributed to him is that all he says is, I am Groot.
Right.
Which is a result of as these species get older, I think it's something to do with their vocal cords harden and it's difficult for them to speak in Earth language or whatever.
I can't remember.
One character once said that he's not actually just saying, I am Groot.
He's saying a whole bunch of stuff.
Right.
But that's how you hear it.
Okay.
But it's not as, I don't think it's been properly confirmed,
or it has, because cosmic is nonsense.
Yeah.
Whether or not he's actually saying anything else.
But in tone and what he says things implies.
Right.
It's like with Chewbacca, it's just a series of random noises,
but apparently he's saying stuff, I guess.
Yeah.
Peter Mayhew's a good bloke, isn't he?
I guess so, yeah.
I've never met him or interacted with him in any way.
I know the Red Letter Media... He sure is tall. The Red Letter Media never met him or interacted with him in any way but he sure is tall the Red Letter Media
guys hate him
they hate him why?
they do
for what?
for what reason?
I don't know
something to do with
Peter May
who's the guy
who plays Chewbacca
if anyone else knows
if you listen to this
you probably know
the way out of that
but I don't know
because he signs
he demands money
for signatures
and whatever
it's a job I guess
I don't give a shit.
I'm never going to meet Peter, mate.
Exactly.
I don't care.
Yeah.
So, yeah, voice of Vin Diesel, who's no stranger to voice work, Mason.
We don't hear him speak at all in the trailer, right?
No, but we will.
But we do hear the next guy speak, which we'll talk about in a minute.
Yeah, Vin Diesel's a good choice, I guess.
He was the Iron Giant.
Yeah.
And that's a great movie.
Uh-huh.
And he does a good job in it.
Here we go. Reads his lines a quarter mile at a time. Species, that's a great movie. And he does a good job in it. Here we go.
Reads his lines a quarter mile at a time.
Species, that's right.
Species, Flora, Colossus.
There was also a rumor that Vin Diesel was going to be Thanos,
which I don't think is the case.
No, no.
Enhancements unknown.
But I bet the guy who portrayed him at the end of Avengers
is really crossing his fingers.
Yeah.
And hoping like, this is my first acting gig,
but boy, I really hope I get to be the villain in Avengersgers 3 that's it uh it says he's uh description human humanoid plant
associates uh 89p13 that probably means something really obscure that i don't know
criminal record there are three counts of grievous bodily ham also wow you didn't think i could save
that joke mason but you did boy did i so yeah there you go
uh last one from the team from this particular team anyway things change though mason over time
yeah as we're aware we all get older we all look worse every day don't we no i look great that's
true well thank you uh traditionally known as rocket raccoon uh-huh now he has the characteristics
of an earth raccoon yes so he's not technically Earth. But he was built to be a guardian of a particular race of something.
It's very complicated, and I could explain it, but I don't really remember, and I don't care.
Great.
But basically, he is essentially a raccoon who is intelligent.
So he's not particularly strong.
Like, he's a little bit better than a regular raccoon, obviously, as far as what he can do.
That's all I ask, really.
That's all I ever want out of my movie heroes.
That's it.
Be slightly better than a normal raccoon.
That's why I like James Bond so much,
because he's slightly better than a normal raccoon, you know?
Just slightly.
Indiana Jones, slightly better.
Sly Cooper, the raccoon,
slightly better than a regular raccoon.
That's very true.
We've got this.
We're getting a rhythm going.
Sly Cooper movie's coming as well.
Is it?
They released a trailer, yeah.
Animated?
Computer CGI.
You've got to jump on this sweet rocket raccoon bandwagon.
Oh, that's a really good point.
Do you think this will be an increase in sort of weird pest-based movie characters?
Yeah, probably, yeah.
It's probably increasing people like silly raccoons and trying to...
Oh, absolutely.
There'll be a lot lot flushed down toilets
that's right exactly
back in the
back in the 50s and 60s
yeah
if you go
but if you just look at
like heaps and heaps
of comic book covers
yeah
there's a lot of gorillas
yeah there is
and if you look
in those issues
a lot of the time
there's no gorilla
in that issue
yeah
and it's just because
gorillas sold
gorillas sold
so they would just
put gorillas on the
which is weird
there's a lot of issues
of like a like a gorilla in a Superman costume.
Yes.
For no reason.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So I hope Raccoon's the new gorilla.
Me too.
That's all I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah.
But basically, because he's a raccoon, he's got, like, better eyesight and smell and all
those kind of things.
Whatever a raccoon can do.
We don't have raccoons, do we?
He's got the proportional strength of a raccoon.
Yeah, pretty much.
He's a little bit stronger, but yeah.
But he is a weapons expert and he can jump around.
Sharp little claws too.
Sharp little claws, yeah.
Like you'd see him in your yard or whatever.
If you've got a nice leafy yard and he'd be there like, ooh, maybe you should pet me.
And then he'd go and he'd scratch you.
Scratch your hands.
I'll get you.
Yeah, it's like the koalas of here.
Koalas are pricks.
Don't touch koalas
No
They'll scratch the shit out of you
They've got chlamydia too
Do they?
Yep
Chwal-midia?
Yes
That's right
The thing about koalas is people don't realise
They're like they're so cute or whatever
There's a reason they can climb up a tree
As quickly as they can
Because their claws are enormous and sharp
Yes
Do not touch a koala
Or do
I don't care
Yeah come visit and do that
He loves guns though Mason
This guy
Yeah
Weapons expert
Bit of a wisecracker
Kind of guy
Apparently he's got anger issues
Voiced by Bradley Cooper
I don't know if you saw
The Bradley Cooper clip Mason
I didn't
But go ahead
But basically there's one line
And I'm going to edit it
Into the podcast right now
Rocket has some real anger issues
This one here's our booty
I either did or didn't do that Huh Was it good? Rocket has some real anger issues. This one is our booty!
I either did or didn't do that.
Huh.
Was it good?
Did I find it accurate to the character?
You were pretty impressed.
Cool.
Yeah.
So basically, alias Rocket, he's from the Half-World, that's right, Half-World, Keystone Quadrant enhancements.
Now in this one, and he probably has had this in the comics at some point, he's got a cybernetic skeletal structure, enhanced phalanges and metacarpal bones, genetically
augmented cerebral cortex, which I assume means he's smart.
Yes.
Yeah.
There's also...
Steals picnic baskets.
That's right.
There's also his picture of his skeleton here.
Do you see that?
A little skeleton.
Yeah, he's got...
It looks like he's got those kind of...
You can see the augmented skeleton.
Yeah.
Well, he needs to be able to stand upright.
That's right.
All the time. That's right. Exactly.
That's a good point.
I didn't even think of that.
Associates Groot, a lower, it says a lower life form has a tendency to bite.
That's a good, yeah.
That's great.
Criminal record, 13 counts of theft, 14 counts of escape from incarceration.
Big part of this movie apparently set in a prison, which is interesting.
Seven counts of mercenary activity, 15 counts of arson.
Love it.
There you go.
I think there's going to be...
I think they've done well in this movie.
Kids are going to love this movie.
You get a lot of merchandise out of it.
Yeah.
This is a good way to go for them.
Very smart.
Oh, Rocket Raccoon plushie.
That's it.
With a little machine gun.
That's it.
Or a full-size machine gun.
Or a real machine gun.
Those are the days when you get a real machine gun. That's it. Or a full-size machine gun. Or a real machine gun. Those are the days when you get a real machine gun.
How about you just give them away when you buy a machine gun?
Good idea.
Now, Mason, there are other
people who are in the Guardians of the Galaxy
who may make an appearance. Adam Warlock,
as we know, his cocoon was at the
end of Thor The Dark World, or it's assumed to be.
Yeah, okay.
I never would have picked that.
Yeah, well, I didn't notice it.
Do you think anyone in the cinema picked that straight away?
I'm sure they would have been.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
See, that's...
I don't recall that.
I don't notice anything in these movies until afterwards.
And then I take credit for it.
Fantastic.
Like a jerk.
Yeah.
Iron Man's been a member.
Yep.
It was rumoured for a long time that Iron Man...
I did not like that space armour Iron Man.
No, me neither.
That weird nose thing he's got.
Don't mess with the classics.
I don't like the idea of...
I thought they might put Iron Man in the movie
to kind of have it cross over,
to be like,
see, it's relatable, Iron Man.
Yeah, yeah.
Don't do that.
Just let it be.
I think he might be in the post-credits sequence.
He probably might.
I can almost guarantee.
He'll be in that,
the Starboost,
the white space armour.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think he'll be in that.
I mean, he blew it up,
but hey, build another one.
It takes like two hours. Exactly. Yeah, other characters rumoured. Nova's rumoured'll be in that I mean he blew it up but hey build another one it takes like two hours
that's right exactly
yeah other characters
are Nova's rumoured
to be in it
okay yeah
there's apparently
even Nova
well Nova runs
I imagine the end of this
will end with them
living in nowhere
yeah
the space station
yeah
the celestial head
space station
that's it
yeah yeah
another thing that's weird
about this
the space station
is run by a Russian dog.
Cosmo, yes.
Yes.
Who was lost in the 60s.
That's right.
Yeah, yeah.
See, that's why I love Marvel cosmology, because that's, just comic book cosmology in general,
because you can just do stuff like that.
Yeah.
Like, well, and you can just say, hey, he was lost in the 60s, they sent him off to
space in the 60s, he disappeared, now he can't die, and he's a talking, intelligent dog,
and he runs a space station at the edge of the universe.
That's it.
Yeah, yeah.
And they don't explain it either.
I'm sure there's an explanation for it.
But most people are like, we don't know how he got here or what's going on.
And he still wears the little space suit.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's great.
Talking animals in this all the way, mate.
I think the Nova Commander, though, is Glenn Close.
Really?
Yeah.
Nova Core head.
Glenn Close, okay.
Yeah.
Well, you know she can run a team.
We do know that.
The Shield. I was going to say. Something else she's been, okay Yeah Well you know she can run a team We do know that The Shield
I was going to say
Something else she's been in?
Name another thing
I was thinking of Meryl Streep
Right
Who is the more extreme version of Glenn Close?
There we go, I did it again
Villains Mason
Now, they can't draw from all the Marvel villains for this
Because some are owned by Fox
Well yeah
The Badoon, owned by Fox.
The Skrulls are partially owned by Fox, so they could probably still use them.
Well, interestingly...
Oh, no, go ahead.
Finish the thought.
Oh, okay.
I was going to say, because the Chitauri in The Avengers, the Ultimate Avengers, they
fight the Chitauri, who are the Skrulls.
Yeah.
They're the same.
They've just given them a different name in the Ultimate Universe.
Yeah, yeah.
And they can shapeshift and stuff like that in the Ultimate Universe.
But in the Avengers movie, they were just real annoying aliens.
Just real persistent.
Yeah, that's it.
Just a lot of them.
And they all phantom menaced at the end.
Yeah, they sure did.
And they blew up their spaceship or whatever.
Or Independence Day also.
Yeah, good point.
They were antiquated.
Yeah, because once you get into the space stuff, a lot of that is Fantastic Four territory.
So they can't necessarily use any of that.
The Shi'ar are from...
They're sort of an X-Men property more than anything.
So they can't necessarily use any of those.
That's right, yeah.
Yeah, so they might be stuck in a lot of these.
Yeah, you okay with that though?
Yeah, it's fine.
I mean, they make use of what they've got though, don't they?
Yeah, definitely.
So I don't think it really impacts on them too much.
But hey, what are we going to do about it yes exactly yeah so the villains in this
though are the main ones are thanos who's going to be instigating the whole thing also from the
comics you got villains like um the universal church of truth is a big player sure yeah and
whatever and whatever i could go through them but i'm not gonna i kind of want to see a celestial
okay yeah a whole bunch of them sure but i mean But I mean, that's kind of a game changer
in that they're essentially unkillable and kind of...
It really does, yeah.
There's a reason why in the comics
they keep a lot of this stuff separate.
Yeah.
For people like me, anyway, who's an idiot.
Right.
Like something like Captain America.
Oh, I'm not disputing that.
It's very easy to pick up and read.
Yeah, it's a guy with a shield and he's quite strong.
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, I can understand why they do keep these things separate. But with this, it's like, you know, the Celestials created the Eternals.
They performed genetic manipulation on the people of ancient Earth.
Yeah.
And they created the Eternals.
And then they had to go to Titan.
Yep.
Saturn's moon.
And that's where Thanos was born.
So he's a Titanian Eternal.
And then his granddad exploded.
And that made all the Eals like immortal and it gave them cosmic powers and then like highlander yeah like exactly
and then thanos went mad and then etc etc okay yeah yeah yeah sure yeah i got all that down
but yeah i appreciate that thank you i was gonna say it yeah you nailed it yeah i wasn't gonna say
any of that no it's it's not nonsense but i love it yeah so yeah but than. I was going to say it, but you nailed it. I wasn't going to say any of that. No, it's all nonsense, but I love it.
So yeah, but Thanos is not going to be the main villain.
Ronan the Accuser.
Okay.
Which I read for years as Ronan the Accursor as well.
Well, that's another of those things.
Exactly.
Who were you going to ask about it?
Exactly.
Anyone, a general member of the public?
That's right.
Who do you love?
It's clearly Ronan the Accuser, though.
It's spelt like that.
Yeah, yeah.
And he's always accusing. Had you read any of his work, he's clearly wrote in the accuser though. Like it's spelt like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's always accusing.
Had you read any of his work,
he's accusing people
all the time.
Left, right, center.
Oi!
That's my lunch!
Yeah.
Oi, that's my lunch too!
Hey, wait a minute.
Oh.
I've been throwing out
some accusings.
Willy nilly.
That's it.
So he's going to be
played by Lee Pace.
I don't know if you saw
The New Hobbit.
I know you didn't.
I didn't.
He was Legolas' father in it. Oh, yeah. So he's the to be played by Lee Pace. I don't know if you saw The New Hobbit. I know you didn't. I didn't. He was Legolas' father in it.
Oh, yeah.
And so he's the villain, the main villain.
But again, that's one of those characters where the actor could be really anyone.
Yeah, that's right.
He's a Thanos kind of...
Like, he's got a big helmet and he's...
He's Thanos-lite, basically.
Yeah, more or less.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nebula also was in it, who's played by...
Karen Gillian, I saw.
Gillian, yeah.
Who shaved her head for the role.
Yeah.
People did not like that. Just the idea of her shaving her head. Yeah.? Gillian, yeah. Who shaved her head for the role. Yeah, people did not like that.
Just the idea of her shaving her head.
Yeah.
She looks good, though.
Oh, she looks great.
But also, I think it's interesting that Nebula hasn't always had a shaved head.
No, she hasn't.
They could have just gone with her with hair.
And the other thing is, I'll see her in the trailer.
A lot of it, she's got cybernetics in her head.
You could have just ball-capped that.
Yeah, exactly.
Hey, whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do what you want to do.
I would assume at this point, what you could do is dye somebody's hair the same color
as a green screen oh yeah it's green screen it out you're right yeah that's it but the big push
on this movie is though there's a lot of practical stuff okay you know like it's very kind of they
build sets and whatever i hear they actually killed a celestial and put his head at the edge of space.
Good.
As a buddy should.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, so she's a space pirate and mercenary.
Apparently she's got some sort of beef with Gamora.
Would you assume she has slightly enhanced strength
and durability and a healing factor of some kind?
That's exactly right.
Great. Good.
Yeah.
Look, Mason, I'm going to...
I guess we could recommend some readings for Guardians of the Galaxy
for those to catch up.
That being said, we've spoken about everything you will need to know.
Right, exactly.
So this is really just extra stuff if you want to hear this.
I'm going to go...
Yeah, I'm going to say, again, Operation Galactic Storm.
I mentioned that straight paperback at some point.
Sure.
If not, steal it off the internet.
Great.
Tell them I sent you.
But there is actually a good...
There's a really good sequence where Iron Man fights Ronan the Accuser
and he's clearly outmatched.
Oh, cool. And he just decides he's going to set his nuclear self-destruct.
Nice.
If he's not going to win, everybody's going to die.
Gotcha. I love it.
Typical Stark. What's that called again?
Operation Galactic Storm.
I'm going to say 20.
I'll check it out.
I'm going to say, and I recommend this in the video,
Volume 1 Legacy.
Where does that start?
Does that start at Guardians of the Galaxy issue 1?
From 2008.
Yeah, that's the kind of newish run.
And it comes that a big war had just happened or whatever.
And it's the start of the team.
And it's kind of them working out who they are and whatever.
It's a decent read.
That being said, and I'll probably get shit canned for this.
Yeah, I hope so.
For a lot of people, I would say you probably probably you could just leave this and just wait for the movie
it's it's if you have never been into it you're not really into comics or whatever
you could you could absolutely just not read this stuff and it would be fine yeah you might even
enjoy the movie more i don't know but it's just because it's very daunting going into this right
exactly and i say that as somebody who's an expert on comics.
You sure do.
You've got to be an expert on something.
I'll tell you what.
That's it.
So, yeah.
I'm not saying it's not worth reading because it is.
Yeah, yeah.
It's good.
But there's a lot going on there.
I'm going to say go back a bit further.
I mean, it's a couple of solid years of work.
Go back and read Annihilation.
Okay.
Because that's...
It's one of those ones that's difficult to get into
because it's kind of like, you know,
four issues of Annihilation, Thanos, and then four issues of Annihilation, Ronan the Accuser, and then there's Annihilation. Okay. Because that's... It's one of those ones that's difficult to get into because it's kind of like, you know, four issues of Annihilation, Thanos, and then four issues of Annihilation, Ronan the Accuser,
and then there's Annihilation issue one, and then there's, you know, Annihilation, Rocket
Raccoon, or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
But go back to that.
Okay.
That's...
It's a...
If you want to...
If you do want to jump in the deep end, just do that.
It's...
They're really...
The art's great, and I think the storyline's great if you can just
read an issue a week.
Sure.
Just get your head around it.
And so it's Annihilation
and the sequel called
Annihilation Conquest.
Cool.
Which,
Why didn't they just call it
Annihilation 2?
Electric Boogaloo.
Yes.
There was boogalooing involved
so I don't know why,
quite frankly.
I sent them a letter.
I sent them an angry letter.
Cool, cool.
So yeah,
so there you go.
There's two options there
if you wanted to get started
on the reading.
One a little bit easier, one deep end stuff. Yeah. And it is. So, there you go. There's two options there if you wanted to get started on the reading. One a little bit easier.
One deep end stuff.
Yeah.
And it is like...
It's a big story.
It's the whole universe is at stake at every single second, which is...
Right.
You know, I enjoy that a lot.
Sure.
Quick, give me one more extreme character.
Iron Man.
War Machine.
Oh, why didn't I...
You idiot.
Captain America, Winter Soldier.
And US Agent.
And Iron Man.
Yeah.
Classic spin-off.
Yeah.
Also, Captain America when he got turned into a werewolf.
What?
That happened.
Of course it did.
Yeah.
Did the serum go bad?
No, he just got bitten by a werewolf.
Well, that happens, I guess.
Robin.
Um.
I guess the next Robin.
Yeah, pretty much.
The corpse of the previous Robin.
I guess Red Hood is kind of a
Nightwing kind of
yeah and a Red Robin
from Kingdom Come
yeah sure sure
yeah yeah
there you go
Hawkman
more extreme Hawkman
he became more extreme
okay
that's the thing
Daredevil became more extreme
he did
pink
black and pink outfit
great
or is that more extreme
it was more extreme
it had metal bits on it
okay you got me
you son of a bitch.
It's a great time for comics.
It is.
There's some other stuff that you can actually check out, Mason,
if you don't want to get into the comics.
There's two episodes in particular of different shows.
You know the Avengers Earth Mightiest Heroes?
Oh, yep.
There was a Guardians of the Galaxy episode.
There's an episode called Michael Korvac.
Check it out.
Oh, with Korvac.
He's like a power cosmic kind of guy.
Well, that's it, Mason.
Now, being... I haven't Mason now being I don't know
alright okay
yeah
the other one
is an ultimate
he's a real
jerk basically
okay right
he tried to
he tried to
make humanity
a paradise
but we were
having none of
that
we're gonna
like that
give us our
free will
and our
smoke and our
cigarettes
yeah
that's what we
like
that's what we
love
yeah
the other one
is the ultimate
an ultimate
spider-man episode
called just guardians of the galaxy so i think that's a pretty good uh intro to those things
you know phil colson and the voice of phil colson is in the spider ultimate as the principal yeah
that's it and he is the actual character great so that's the only way they kind of can merge marvel
and what sony own is right right because son Sony own the movie rights, but Marvel own everything else.
Okay, interesting.
Like comics and whatever.
So there you go.
Take that, Sony.
Well, Mason, what a show it's been.
But the show ain't over yet.
Isn't it?
Because it's time for What We Reading, What We Gonna Read.
Oh, yeah.
The segment we introduced last week.
The best named segment.
Where basically we talk about things that we think people
should be watching
at the moment
or reading
or anything
or something
that we're
going to get
into
and what not
do you want to
go first
or do I
do
I think you
should go first
because I
haven't thought
of anything
because I
forgot we
had that
segment
I forgot
you tried
to shoo
on this
in last
week
that's it
so basically
I read
something this
week called
Irredeemable
oh I love
Irredeemable
yeah it's
pretty great it's pretty great.
It's about a superhero called the Plutonian,
and he is essentially Superman in every way.
He's got all the powers of Superman.
He's like the best guy in the world.
And then he just decides one day to just kill everybody.
And he just turns into a complete psychopath.
And he's not blasted with a ray or whatever.
He just snaps.
He's sinking nations.
Yeah.
Series like this
are really great
because
we've done
superhero stuff
we know all the
classic superhero stuff
and he's kind of
a twist on it
because
when
Superman
gains his powers
and he had a great
upbringing
where he believes
in truth and justice
and all that sort of stuff
and that happens
with a lot of characters
they're gifted with
great powers
and they decide
that the way forward is
to be the greatest superhero ever.
Yes.
But in this case, it's a guy who was given these powers, but maybe the burden has always
been too much for him and it was only a matter of time until he cracks.
Exactly.
And that's exactly what happens here.
That's right.
Yeah.
And it unfolds because they're unsure where he's from or what his powers originated from
and all that kind of stuff.
And it unfolds.
There's two volumes you can get on Comixology.
Uh-huh. I think it's about 6060 in total or whatever I paid for it.
It's a good read.
It does, in the second volume, it gets very cosmic,
which is, you know, which we love.
But it's still, it's easy to follow because it's standalone
and it's got a definitive end point.
That's true, yeah.
So I would say, you know, it's definitely worth a read.
It is expensive.
It's $60 in total.
But maybe give a
couple issues a read and go from there yeah so yeah well then i'm gonna recommend incorruptible
which is the spin-off series how do you like that i hate it mason wow what do you think it's also
great but it's it's the reverse it's a guy max damage who's the who's like a former super villain
yeah who decides in the wake of the Plutonian going insane that he might actually
have to do his part to save the world.
Cool.
So he changes his ways.
Alright.
Did you not read that also?
I've not read that.
Time to get into it, mate.
That's it.
Yeah.
We've both got homework, Mason.
You have to read all the Guardians of the Galaxy.
I'm going to have, I'm going to, actually I'm going to read Annihilation again.
Cool, alright.
Just to get a refresher on it because it's really great.
Great.
Well, that's pretty much the show then, Mason.
Yeah.
Look, and if you've got something
That you're reading at the moment
Oh let us know
I would like to know
All about the newest stuff
Absolutely
Definitely
Because I'm way behind
I'm years behind
You know what
The problem is with everything
There's so much good TV
And whatever at the moment
And comics and everything
You literally cannot
See and read everything
Uh huh yeah
You know what I mean
So there's obviously
Gaps in our knowledge
So there's probably people out there,
Mason, believe it or not,
who know more about comics than we do.
Oh, I bet there are.
Yeah.
There are certainly people
who would know more about comics
but don't feel the need to spurt that
all over the internet in an ignorant way.
That's right.
So why would that stop us?
You're absolutely right, Mason.
You're absolutely right.
So I guess that's the show for this week.
Pretty great. If you'd like
to get in contact. No shout outs this week. Oh.
So yeah if you want a shout out. I'll shout out whatever.
I don't care. Give us an email at
weeklyplanetpod. I think it's probably
because we ruined them all last time. We sure
did. Yeah. Weeklyplanetpod at Gmail
Twitter Facebook. Yes.
What do you think about that Mason? I think
those are all correct. You're right Mason. And the way to go.
They are all right. and find Mason at Wikipedia Brown
is that correct?
that is correct
that's right
you can find me at MrSundayMovies
that is correct
on Twitter
oh
yes and also if you could
rate us on iTunes
that'd be great
also the Mackenzie Mustache movement
it continues
it plows forth
yeah
yeah
it's not the movement
that they want
but it's one that they need running how's that go? it's not the movement that they want but it's one that they need right now.
How's that go?
It's not the mustache
that we've seen.
It's the one
that we had.
Yes.
Anyway, keep doing that
because it's great.
I'm enjoying that a lot.
We will get an answer
out of him.
Optimus Prime.
What does that mean?
A more extreme version.
It's Optimus Prime.
Yeah.
Or Ultra Magnus.
Yeah, good point.
Also, that's a toy.
How dare you?
It's a comic. Yeah, or Ultra Magnus. Yeah, good point. Also, that's a toy. How dare you? It's a comic.
Yeah.
Hancock.
No, this character's from the 90s.
He's not from the 90s.
How dare you?
A picture of a really muscular man.
A picture of an even more muscular man,
but he's got pouches filled with gun belts and stuff.
Robocop.
Robocop 2.
Gorilla Man.
No, doesn't count.
Probably Gorilla Grodd.
Jersey Boys, the musical.
Jersey Girl, the Kevin Smith film.
You idiots.
You got me, Mason.
Yep, every time.
You've won this week.
Thank you.
Well done.
Thank you.
Thanks, everyone.
Have a wonderful week. Thanks for listening. Yep, every time. You've won this week. Thank you. Well done. Thank you. Thanks, everyone. Have a wonderful week.
Thanks for listening.
Take care of yourselves.
Bye.
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