The Weekly Planet - 240 Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom is...

Episode Date: June 25, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Everybody listening, this episode is brought to you by Audible. Everybody not listening also. That still is, correct, it applies. But it's also brought to you by Mack Weldon. Clothing. They love smart design.
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Starting point is 00:00:42 It's antimicrobial. What's that about when it's at home? Well, it's technical, isn't it? Yeah, in a way. But in a good way. In a good way, yeah. Yeah. Is that it?
Starting point is 00:00:52 Is that your... I think so. I can help. If you could, yes. Basically, the way they put together it, it's technical, isn't it? See? Not as easy as you'd think. But they don't smell
Starting point is 00:01:05 weird if you wear them for longer than a regular t-shirt i feel like with most t-shirts all t-shirts you get like maybe a day's wear out of them then you're like gotta wash that some days i don't even get a day's wear that's what i'm saying mason you're a big jogger i'm a big blogger you're a big i'm a big vlogger you know how sweaty vlogging is they get very sweaty yeah yeah so basically that is one of those things where all their products, we're talking socks. We're talking... Jocks.
Starting point is 00:01:28 We're talking... Which is American... That's Americans, what you would say, underpants and jocks. We're talking shirts. Did we say jocks? Yes.
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Starting point is 00:02:07 And you can just be like, okay, I want to refresh my T-shirt bloody collection. You can just buy. You've got 10. You know they're all good. They all fit. It's great. It's easy. Colors you like.
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Starting point is 00:02:49 Um, is it podcast? No. I'm with the show. Yeah. Red hot comic book movie news. Shooting up your butthole. The Weekly Planet, The Weekly Planet Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet
Starting point is 00:03:09 Where we talk movies and comics and TV shows My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday With me as always is my co-host Nick Mason I'm ready, I'm hydrated, let's do it You're wonderfully ready Mason, if you don't mind me saying so I thought you were going to say you're wonderfully wet That's correct Sure
Starting point is 00:03:22 Not incorrect No, you've got to keep hydrated, it's important It's important It's important I can't get through A bloody episode of this Without a big old bottle of water When I went overseas And I went on some panel stuff
Starting point is 00:03:30 I thought you were gonna say You couldn't get You can't get through A bottle of water No But you force yourself Because it's important I'm at capacity
Starting point is 00:03:36 Okay you had a story Well no it's not really a story It's just if you watch No it's a story If you watch any video of me I'm either waiting for the pauses When the camera goes off me to drink Or I'm just drinking the entire time Huh i just don't function what if it's a
Starting point is 00:03:48 drinking competition i've never been in a drinking competition for water i've been in a drink competition of like alcohol i wouldn't recommend it but water no i've never done that but i think i could win yep or i could place sure absolutely yeah should we do the show i think i could win given that a water drinking competition is not a thing, and I'll never be brought on I'll never be asked to do one so I think I could definitely win I bet there's a water drinking competition
Starting point is 00:04:13 I bet there is I bet I get a tweet from an offended professional water drinker who's like, oh actually there's a lot of trading involved Did you hydrate for seven days leading up? I made a tweet in the early days of Twitter, I's a lot of training involved. Did you hydrate for seven days leading up? I made a tweet. In the early days of Twitter, I made a tweet about... I saw it was like World Championship Darts on TV.
Starting point is 00:04:33 And they have like... I don't know if they still do it. This is before this show, actually. Before this show. And it was just a tweet. And I had no followers. So I'm like, this will be safe. And I made some disparaging tweet about professional darts because it's like they it's set up like the professional wrestling like
Starting point is 00:04:48 they all come in to with like a posse they got personas they got personas one guy's called was called like darth barry or something like that i don't know it's some darth something and he throws a dart and and they cgi'd it really poorly so it turned into a lightsaber as he was throwing it so that would have been like 2009 something like that and i'm like this combines all the and they CGI'd it really poorly, so it turned into a lightsaber as he was throwing it. So that would have been like 2009 as well. Something like that. And I'm like, this combines all the glitz of professional wrestling with the thrill of fat guys playing darts. And I got a tweet back from a dude
Starting point is 00:05:15 who clearly was like searching world championship darts or something. And he's like, oh, actually, there's a lot of training involved, and maybe you shouldn't be so quick to judge or whatever. You know what? I'm judging. Also, shut up. Yeah. Wait, me, actually, there's a lot of training involved and maybe you shouldn't be so quick to judge or whatever. You know what? I'm judging. Also, shut up. Yeah. Wait, me?
Starting point is 00:05:28 No, him. Okay. But you also. But me. I was going to say also me. Also, just quickly, our Care Australia campaign is still running. Listen, Mason, it feels like the time of the year and the current state of the world where if you were to reach out
Starting point is 00:05:39 and do something good for some people around the world. You could win some prizes. And you can win some prizes. Because there's a lot of stuff going on in the world, Mason. Yeah, but there's a lot of stuff that you can win. That's right. There's also stuff you can win. A lot of our sponsors have jumped on board.
Starting point is 00:05:52 We talked about it last week. We're talking Mack Weldon Clothing. We're talking Movement Watchers. We're talking Mr. Coyish Shirts, one of my favourites. Harry Shavers. Harry Shavers. So there's prizes to be won if you donate any amount of money. There's also some bonus bonds of content that we'll be putting out.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Yes, Claire, we said that. We said that, Claire. We said that one, Claire. We said that one too, Claire. We said that one. We said them. And they can't hear you, so we're just yelling at nobody. For everybody who doesn't know, Claire's individually yelling out the sponsors.
Starting point is 00:06:23 The sponsors, yeah. That we already mentioned. You can't even podcast in your own house these days. That's right. Yeah. Unbelievable. I was going to say we're nearly halfway to our goal of $40,000. We're at $18,435.49.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Fantastic. And that's when the real magic happens. Oh. I don't know what happened. Actually, I've got to make a YouTube video about it, actually. I still haven't done that. That'd be nice. Do you want me to be on it? No. Okay. We want to make money, Mason. I don't know what happens. Actually, I've got to make a YouTube video about it, actually. I still haven't done that. That'd be nice. Do you want me to be on it?
Starting point is 00:06:46 No. Okay. We want to make money, Mason. I was going to say, yeah. No, you can definitely be on it. All right. Listen, I know last week was the end of Star Wars News. I didn't want Star Wars News.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Finally. This is great. No more Star Wars News this week. We're just reiterating. There's no more Star Wars News for a long time. You're not going to like this. No problem, everybody. You're welcome, everybody.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Oh, no. Oh, what? Oh, what? Yeah. So, basically, there's Star Wars news for a long time. You're not going to like this. No problem, everybody. You're welcome, everybody. Oh, no. Oh, what? What? So basically, there's Star Wars news this week. Oh, but you just said. And then I promised all the listeners there wouldn't be anymore. But some people love Star Wars, Mason. I guess that's true.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Over at Collider, it was reported that the spinoff movies are on hold, which currently include the likes of a Boba Fett movie, an Obi-Wan Kenobi movie. Bear in mind, those movies were never announced, but they were as good as official. And another one which was revealed was a Mos Eisley movie. Oh. Like the Mos Eisley Cantina book, I assume.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Oh, like Tales of Scum and Villainy. Yeah, whatever. And all the assorted. What about the pig nose man? What's his deal? Dr. Evazan. He's the pig nose man. Yeah, he's all about illegal surgeries and stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Huh, did he do his own pig nose? No, I think he was... Born with it? Maybelline. That might have been Maybelline. But it looks like a scar, doesn't it? I don't actually know. Yeah, I reckon he did it himself.
Starting point is 00:07:58 There's a non-canonical, then a canonical reason, I'm sure. I see, great. I don't actually know. I don't like the idea of that movie because get away from that time period yeah i mean because i'm sure it would have to be set in that time they'd be like what's bloody the band up to and the i don't care what if it was like the founding of moss icely the town so like like a lawless like decades prior or like gives a shit yeah so okay so the founding of the town you you go in and it's just sand.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And then people build some huts, some domed huts. And then there's a bar. I was going to say make it even more like Wild West. But then I'm like, what are people... It is the Wild West. Well, that's what I'm saying. But also what would bandits be doing? Stealing moisture?
Starting point is 00:08:41 Is that staying hydrated? Well, that's the story of the Obi-Wan comic, in continuity. Jabba the Hutt, it's rumored that, because he's taxing everybody, but he's just taking baths. He's just loving life, mate. He's a big old greasy slug.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Yeah. Yeah. We never see him take a bath in continuity, do we? No, not in continuity. He's never, I'm off to a bath. No, but this is in continuity, though. It's been, that's the rumor. And then Obi-Wan stops or whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Look, all these movies I don't want to see except the Obi-Wan movie. I hope the lesson that they learned from Solo isn't cancel the Obi-Wan movie. That's the only one people want to see. You can cancel the rest of them. A Boba Fett movie, I'm sure it can work. And the Mos Eisley one can work. But just make the Obi-Wan movie. You've got all the prequel fans on board, the kids who grew up on those movies.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Even if you don't like those movies, you ewan mcgregor in that role it's the only one you need to make throw everything out except that one moss icely but it's like like sim city it's like just it's just people building the town and then a tornado a lot of logistical issues about that and they're like where do we put the rubbish bins? Where do we put the public toilet blocks? Oh, no, there's a monster smashing up the city. There's a monster. I always hated that game.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Yeah. Were you a fan? Because I'd start and then I'd just be like, I don't, because I think I had it too young. So I'm like, I don't understand. Yeah, exactly right. So I'd get a pre-made city and then just throw everything. Throw it a monster or a tornado. Just throw it a monster or a tornado.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Yeah. You know, he was the real monster. uh you know he was the real monster mason probably this young man you know what i mean not looking oh you're the monster okay i get it um i liked it for a while but then i would always get the townsfolk would be unhappy about something yeah shut up they're like you need to build another rec center or whatever and i'm like I don't have room for another rec center. What do I do? And then I just, yeah, tornado. You know what?
Starting point is 00:10:30 You've asked for too much. You've pushed me too far. I was more a civilization fan. Okay, sure. I was more of an Age of Empires fan. Oh, yeah. And a dungeon keeper. Nice.
Starting point is 00:10:38 But that's either here nor there. It's by the by, isn't it? Yeah. Now, after this report came out multiple uh different uh sites scrambled to be like well i also heard something and you know what i heard something about the yeah you're all you're all the best websites do they do you think any of them actually heard something or they who gives a shit yeah but basically that uh some lucasfilm their official statement was that's not true we're still moving forward with it with stuff i mean who knows whether that's true or not they'll
Starting point is 00:11:03 probably just say the thing that is least controversial i'd imagine but also other sides are saying they're actually it's not stopped it's being reassessed right so they're like well solo made no money but what if it made some money yes you know what i mean and i guess a lot of on all these websites are sort of relying on that clickbait like just the idea of these movies are off these movies are on they're off again like that gets people to click definitely we are the only ones immune to this that's correct we're the only ones giving the objective information and that is we legitimately don't know we don't know and one at least one of us doesn't care try and guess uh but no i mean are you surprised that they'd be reassessing any of this i mean i'm not i'm not surprised but i feel like again solo's a blip yeah it could be yeah it depends
Starting point is 00:11:53 what it depends what you do i i apparently they're still moving forward with the new series of films you know the ryan johnson and the yeah i think that also they they probably should lean into the new trilogy more because a lot of people really, I know that they're controversial to a lot of people, which we can get to actually, but a lot of people love those new characters and want to see, you know, things around that exist around those new characters.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Yes. People, people like Ray and Poe and all the other ones or whatever I would say on the whole. I agree. But, yeah, I think the long-form storytelling might be a better way to approach it as opposed to, this is 20 years after Return of the Jedi,
Starting point is 00:12:34 but what if we went 10 years before the original? Why? You know what I mean? Maybe with Marvel you keep a consistent timeline. Yeah. Might be the way to do it. Well, exactly. Except for the Obi-Wan.
Starting point is 00:12:44 And, again, there's only a limited anything's anything prequely there's only a limited unless you're going to tie it back into the new stuff unless you unless you cover a character like the dice yes no didn't really no not so much but like unless it's a character that you introduce in the past that is potentially long-lived enough to then appear in the new movies, then we know that the character you introduce in the past is probably dead or has flown off into the sunset or what have you. Literally the sunset. Sometimes. And, you know, are we going to love this character enough over the course of two hours to get another sequel even closer to their deaths?
Starting point is 00:13:28 Yeah, exactly. I don't know. I think if it was a Han Solo spinoff movie and it was set five years before The Force Awakens, it probably would have done really well. Right. Because you get Harrison Ford back, you know? That's right.
Starting point is 00:13:40 So that was the original question. So I feel like, yeah, that's the thing. Like, if I were given the keys to the Star Wars franchise, I would not be worried about. You'd drop them down the drain. Well, exactly. Then you'd have to call your dad. No, I'd just brush my hands of the whole deal.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I'd be like, well, no more for anyone. And then I'd walk away whistling a happy tune. But I'd be like, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of there's a lot of reasons not to panic here I think I will continue forward with again an Obi-Wan movie that people would like
Starting point is 00:14:10 but it seems like in Hollywood if the movie literally the only thing that counts is the bottom line they don't go okay well maybe it's too close to the other movie
Starting point is 00:14:18 maybe it's because it was on this particular weekend maybe it was this and blah blah blah they just go it didn't make enough money that means this idea is bad and let's get rid of it. Yeah, right, yeah. But again, none of this is
Starting point is 00:14:28 official. They're saying they're putting a halt on movies that were never announced. So we don't really know what's going on. And you heard it here first. Oh, yeah, we did it again. And maybe you'll hear it again next week. So keep listening in, like and subscribe. But in the spirit of Star Wars,
Starting point is 00:14:44 there being no Star Wars news this week Yes There's more Star Wars news Oh but you just said And me and the listeners But mostly me Were very happy that there was no more Star Wars news After that Star Wars news we just heard
Starting point is 00:14:56 I think you enjoy this Star Wars news though And you were here the other day When this kind of popped up online Oh okay yeah In its infancy Yes And that is a fan fundraising campaign to remake The Last Jedi.
Starting point is 00:15:09 And fundraising campaign is very much in air quotes there. Yeah, we shouldn't even be bringing this up because this is nothing. But it's either a very stupid group of people or people or they're liars or this is a scam or it's a combination of all those three things. Yeah, it could be a combo.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I've seen Ocean's Eleven. It could be a series of different scams and releases. The idea is, I can't remember the website, and that's not me not promoting it. You can just Google it. I don't care. I would love to see this happen, actually. They want to remake The Last Jedi, and the plan is to raise $25 million, but they already have independent backing allegedly yes i should say yeah allegedly they have an independent backer who will match dollar for dollar so they're going to take that 50 million dollars to lucasfilm with a fan written script and then they're going to ask lucasfilm to make it yeah that's so yeah okay they're going to say hey we've got
Starting point is 00:16:05 50 million dollars can we make a Star Wars make an official because they're going to allegedly this is all alleged and it's incredible stuff because they're going to release it in cinemas how are they going to get distribution
Starting point is 00:16:22 rights who is this mystery backer? There's no names associated with it. And also, if you, as we had a look at it last week, when you say you're going to pledge this amount of money, you don't have to put any credit card details in or anything like that. You can just say that you're pledging up to $10,000. So... And they emphasize they're not going to take your money you can just say that you're pledging up to $10,000. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:48 And they emphasize they're not going to take your money until they hit the full amount. Yep. And then if they don't, if they take it to Lucasfilm and Lucasfilm say no, they're going to give that money back. Yes. If it gets to that point, it's possible. Yep.
Starting point is 00:17:03 It's unlikely, I'd imagine. No one's seeing that money again. No, for sure. That money is gone. I don't think I mentioned this, Joe, but maybe I mentioned it in another podcast. I think you have mentioned it, but you should mention it anyway. The one time I used Kickstarter, I Kickstarted a watch. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:17 And it was like $130 or something like that. And I'm like, I'll pay that amount for a watch. And the Kickstarter guys who were running this kickstarter whatever what do they call it uh i was gonna say scam but that's it yeah but scheme campaign whatever they were expecting like 50 000 and they got like 1.02 million dollars or something like that and then nobody got a watch no and i'm not saying i'm not alleging anything in particular but i'm saying is it there was just a series of blog posts about how everything was going wrong and oh no this is what a what a bloody oh we we tried to make the the manufacturer won't accept
Starting point is 00:17:56 our orders anymore oh we had a part that didn't work so we had to order more and then it kept going and then one of the guys is like i'm living in a van outside the factory here's a photo of the van or whatever and then they were like sorry guys we've run out of money and then somebody was like hey i that photo of the van is fake and so what has been alleged is that they were just like well we just got a million bucks we'll never get a million bucks again especially do you think they have a plan to give anybody that money yeah I think so yeah yeah they plan to make it
Starting point is 00:18:27 yeah I think so yeah right oh wow they're almost to a hundred million dollars but that exactly but you can you can individually
Starting point is 00:18:34 this is this is the Star Wars thing you can individually which you so I'm just looking at this Twitter okay well while you're doing that I should say
Starting point is 00:18:41 that you once we figured out that you didn't have to donate any actual money you can just pledge. You were like, I'm going to pledge a million dollars. No, I was going to donate the $25 million. I was going to take it up to the maximum amount. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:18:55 But you can only donate $10,000. At a time. And if I was a younger man, if it was 10 years ago, I would have made individual accounts all the way up to this if i had the time but i'm too old now i can't i can't do it but i love some of the responses from people like suggestions to make it better i'm trying to find some good ones here but they're hilarious just like really specific and odd things what about there shouldn't be any uh any gravity in space for the bombs dropping or whatever apparently Apparently, you know, that bombing thing at the start. Apparently, they're magnetized anyway.
Starting point is 00:19:28 There's sound in space in all of these movies. If you're so pedantic about that particular thing, there's a bunch of shit in these movies that don't make sense. All the movies. Yeah. Again, I just had a conversation with somebody about this today, where it's like, yeah, there are problems with these latest movies, but there are problems with all the movies like the first the first movie uh why do they have to wait till that moon moves
Starting point is 00:19:49 before they can blow up yeah what is it dantooine i mean and there's just blow up the moon if our moon exploded we'd all die we'd all die yeah and i'm sure there's in canon explanations like well the death star was too close to the moon and that's what i'm sure they've explained it yeah afterwards yeah but it's it's all nonsense a lot i mean there's there's space splugs that live in space who live in asteroids with no atmosphere yeah and yet you can also get out of the you can get out of your ship and wander around on the inside of the asteroid with a little mask on little mask on yeah so it's just i i can't find any of the specifics yeah the specific responses of things but like there's just i i can't find any of the specifics yeah the specific responses
Starting point is 00:20:25 of things but like there's things that i understand where people are like get rid of the canto bite stuff or whatever oh the casino yeah casino but then like the really specific stuff is like that's just a thing that you care about like nobody and there's a thing that's one of the things i think one of the comments by this guy is just like everybody's going to get a say in the writing even if you love it or hate it because obviously you know writing by committee is much better yeah than one person with one specific vision of how things should be no it's not that's never been the case and there's people say like well what about the princess leia stuff because i'd like her to have her, she flies the ship. In the end, it makes a sacrifice.
Starting point is 00:21:08 How are they going to do that? And they're like, well, it'll be hard, but we'll make it work. How? First of all, you don't own any of this. Yeah, for sure. No, they're going to have $50 million, so it's going to be fine. Yeah, great stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Anyway, this is a scam. So I'm really looking forward to this. I don't know if it is a scam. I just think it's- It might be. Yeah, you is a scam. So I'm really looking forward to it. I don't know if it is a scam. I just think it's... It might be. Yeah, you're very possible. Look, I really want to see this movie though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Imagine seeing it by the committee. It's going to be so good. Disney approved. Yeah, exactly. Star Wars remake. I want my pledge t-shirt. I saved Star Wars. Is it?
Starting point is 00:21:41 I saved The Last Jedi. Something like that. Yeah. Nice. Absolutely. I should have pledged $25 million. That's right. I believe they're nearly at $100 million already.
Starting point is 00:21:49 That's crazy. So weird. So weird. All right, we've got to get off this. Okay. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, there's a reboot in the works from Platinum Dunes. Is that Michael Bay again? That's Michael Bay again.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Andrew Dodge made direct. He wrote Bad Words. Do you ever see that? No. That Jason Bateman spelling bee movie Bay again. Andrew Dodge made Direct. He wrote Bad Words. Do you ever see that? That Jason Bateman spelling bee movie? No. It's quite good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:12 And he's also the screenwriter for Space Jam 2, which I haven't seen. Keep on jamming. That can't be right. I don't know. It's not out yet. No, but he's the screenwriter for that. Okay. It's going to be LeBron?
Starting point is 00:22:21 I guess. It can't be Michael Jordan again. Why not, Mason? Bring him back, back. Good question. You know what I mean? Good point, Mason. He retired in the first one and they got him back. It can't be Michael Jordan again. Why not, Mason? Bring him back, back. Good question. You know what I mean? He retired in the first one and they got him back. Do you remember?
Starting point is 00:22:28 That's true, yeah. Okay. And there was a bit where it was like Pulp Fiction. Do you remember? I do remember that bit. You've seen that t-shirt I shoot. Yeah. Pretty rad. What do you think about that?
Starting point is 00:22:36 Getting back on the Ninja Turtles. Is this dead? Is this done? Why are they... I mean... I don't know. I still... i again uh ninja turtles is one of the few properties that i still have some nostalgia for so and you didn't mind the last one no i quite like the last one i'm apparently wrong for liking it you like what you want exactly i didn't mind
Starting point is 00:22:58 because i'd heard the the first one of those was really terrible yes i eventually got around to seeing it on the home release and i was like fine? And I was like, it's fine. I didn't love it. It doesn't make any sense. I don't like the designs. Uh-huh. But it's fine. But I really didn't like the second one too much,
Starting point is 00:23:15 even though it had every element that you'd think I would enjoy. See, that's why I liked it, because it was just the cartoon but live action. Yeah, yeah. And it made very little sense. But I thought it was pretty solid and fun. All in all, they shouldn't reboot it is what you're saying. So what direction are they going to go in with this one though? I assume, and I don't know this, that they're just going to make it closer to the comic source material,
Starting point is 00:23:32 which would also mean the original movie. Because the original movie is pretty much just the first run. Yeah, it's the first Kevin Eastman, Peter Laird, like the hyper-violent, the bloody... It's a great comic as well. Yeah, before it was taken up by Archie Comics and became the cartoon and all that sort of stuff, it was just this kind of
Starting point is 00:23:50 It's just this bizarre daredevil pseudo-spin-off with a lot of blood. Yeah, and also Shredder's killed with a hand grenade. Yeah, Shredder's killed in it and then he doesn't come back. Maybe he's back by now and there's different runs in different universes or whatever but as far as i know that version is dead in there yeah right yeah
Starting point is 00:24:10 but uh no i still think that movie holds up the first first yeah for sure it's kind of like batman 89 but good oh come on gotcha mason that's your favorite movie yeah we should watch that movie actually i know that's what i'm talking about commentary just me and you just sit in silence we watch it watch a movie right wouldn't it be nice to watch a movie together but sit in silence that's the joke sounds yuck it does doesn't it yeah yeah oh yeah so maybe you think they do potentially they could go back to yeah animatronic suits maybe yeah or a combination yeah of yeah but those suits nearly killed people oh you mean they came to life yeah they came to life a new nightmare style no well they were very
Starting point is 00:24:52 heavy and clunky and i think it was the first time oh no sorry howard the duck was the first because you talked about this in the do go on one but the freestanding uh animatronic heads yeah exactly so really heavy so they're yeah so they they were they were the second set of like animatronic suits that were not sort of wired mechanically to like a like a like a platform or a set of wires that are coming out of the roof or something like that they were just like remote operated and standing but as a result they were like massively heavy yeah and probably they probably like pinch at your face almost certainly yeah yeah but i remember seeing that as a kid how they worked and it's literally like a like a virtual puppets not a virtual puppet it's like operating a puppet from across the room like you got your hand in a little
Starting point is 00:25:34 sock and you go like this in the mouth yeah it's pretty incredible so no i think maybe something akin to that with wood would people go back to hollywood go back to that's a yeah well i think so because i think that's the way you know the new jur hollywood go back to that's a yeah well i think so because i think that's the way you know the new jurassic park has gone back to puppets you know like a lot of star wars is now puppets and practical so i think yeah i think there's a good chance they would i'm just not sure that there's an audience for this i think if there is you'd probably do this for 40 to 50 million you wouldn't pump in 150 or whatever they did to the last one because i because ninja turtles is not
Starting point is 00:26:05 the phenomenon that it was when we were kids no and it won't be again either no it's not it's not it's not blowing kids minds it's just the sort of i wonder if you do it as a a soft reboot as in you keep maybe just the first one uh-huh and you just follow on from that and even you just said it in the 90s oh i see right you just do a do it and even you just said it in the 90s oh I see right and you just do a like you know how Terminator's wiping which we'll talk about
Starting point is 00:26:29 is wiping everything away and you know they're going to do a new alien and whatever and the new Halloween just throw the other ones away well maybe that I mean that is absolutely
Starting point is 00:26:39 the trend currently so I think that is very that is 99% you get Corey Feldman back and you're bloody cooking with gas. You get Elias Koteas as Casey Jones. He was really good. He was.
Starting point is 00:26:52 He was a great Casey. He was way better than the new Casey Jones. I want to be a detective. Get out of here. You've got your own career on TV, isn't that? TV's Arrow. Get out of here, Stephen Amell, you bloody ripped piece of garbage.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Very nice man. I think you're so good at doing those really specific type of chin-ups that no real person can do get out of here uh creed 2 got a new trailer though first trailer uh stallone's directing this one yep it looks like it's in the spirit of kind of your rocky three in a way like a bit darker but a guy who climbs to the top he has everything you lose your edge yep and you know and then what do you do so wait is this this isn't set immediately after creed one i like a few years after what happened at the end of creed one he won he was nice okay because at the start of this trailer or did he see that's what i'm saying because at the start of this trailer he's clearly been beaten to a pulp by someone.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Yeah, right. Okay, maybe he didn't. Whether that's in context of the boxing ring or just on the street. Yeah. Who knows? I think you see him in a couple of fights. Okay, so it's Drago's son as well. Yes. And Drago, original Drago, original recipe Drago killed his father in the ring.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Played by He-Man himself. Dolphin Lundgren. Dolphin Lundgren. Yeah. Who's actually in Aquaman. Perfect, Mason He-Man himself. Dolphin Lundgren. Dolphin Lundgren. Yeah. He was actually in Aquaman. Perfect, Mason. That is perfect. I hope he plays a dolphin.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Did you see his tweet from many months ago? He's like, hey, everyone, my dolphin is short for dolphin. Join me in my undersea kingdom. Did you see that? It's a real tweet. He's a real life genius. No wonder his jokes are so great. That's right.
Starting point is 00:28:22 It's a good joke. And it took us months to catch up to his great jokes. So that we're just mentioning it now. He's so far ahead. Okay. I'm going to look up Creed movie right now.
Starting point is 00:28:30 We'll get to the bottom of this. We're going to figure out how this movie ended. This movie we enjoyed but do not recall at all. Well, because... Tessa Thompson's back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Love her. She's got... Because remember she was making terrible music but she's like, I'm making music while I can before I go deaf. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop. The music was really bad. I think you're already deaf, Tessa Thompson, because your music is terrible. But she's got the hearing aids. So Kugel's out. Director Ryan Kugel's out of this one. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Well, he's in the Marvel universe, and who knows what else she's working on. Yeah. So what happens at the end, Mason? Okay, let's see. Conlon won the fight, but Creed won the night. Okay. Conlon.
Starting point is 00:29:08 There we go. Yeah, that sounds right. Which is the original Rocky as well. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, so there you go. So maybe he's just been losing ever since. Maybe he didn't get his title. What if this opens with, Creed, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:29:20 I mean, you lost that one by quite a close margin, but the rest have been very, very distant margins. You were getting pulped out there, mate. This is not good. I think you fluked that narrow loss last time. You're bad at boxing, mate. I don't know who this guy is. The Australian reporter in the pit.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Oh, no, that was the coach. His coach is Rocky. Oh, he's got a new coach. He's got a new coach. Okay. He, no, he was his coach. That was the coach. His coach was Rocky. Oh, he's got a new coach. He's got a new coach. He's Australian and he's incredulous. What are you doing, mate? What were you doing before this? Maybe go back to that.
Starting point is 00:29:57 What was he doing? I can't remember. Just boxing, I think. Yeah, he's just boxing. He was just always boxing. I like that character a lot. He's good. Maybe he'll be back one day. I hope so. Oh, no, I's just boxing. He was just always boxing. I like that character a lot. He's good. Maybe he'll be back one day.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I hope so. But no, I... Oh, no, I've fallen down. Well, I'm dead now. He won't be coming back, is he? He won't be coming back. He's a new Mickey. But no, I think this could be really great.
Starting point is 00:30:16 And all the Rocky movies except five, which I haven't seen, are pretty good in general. I agree, yeah. So, yeah, why not? Here's something which I think could shape up to be good, though I shouldn't get my hopes up because we've been burned four times or three times leading up to this. Oh, what is this? Linda Hamilton's been spotted on set of Terminator 6.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Great. Sarah Connor. You've seen those pictures? No. Dude, she looks great. Dude? It looks amazing. All right, okay.
Starting point is 00:30:39 All right, going back to the well. Here we go. Hamilton. Hamilton. Terminator. Judge. well. Here we go. Hamilton. Hamilton. Terminator. Judge. Six. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Here we bloody go. What's she been doing? Nothing. Really? She's rich. She had a divorce settlement from James Cameron. James Cameron. She got 50 million bucks or whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:57 All right, okay. Plus everything else that she would have gotten just from working and being an actor and things. She did Dante's Peak. Oh, yeah. Good point. Yeah. I think she got a lot of money for Terminator Dante's Peak. Oh, yeah, good point, yeah. I think she got a lot of money for Terminator 2 as well. Okay, she's wearing that body armour. Okay, that looks pretty good.
Starting point is 00:31:09 All right. You know what I like as well? She's aged. Like a normal human being? Like a normal human being, exactly. But it's aged, though, and she's still terrified that the robots are going to come and get her. Yeah, right. Like she's kept in shape.
Starting point is 00:31:21 She's actually in Terminator 4. She does a voiceover at the start. There's also some photos of her, like when she's not filming it, she's just having a dart. And I'm like, that's great. 61. I mean, don't smoke. I'll be serious.
Starting point is 00:31:35 But if you do, punch those darts. Punch those bloody darts. Okay, she's got some body. What can we surmise from this? I think, okay, my understanding of the premise is that it's first of all yeah so it's a sequel it's a direct sequel to the second ignoring everything else because every terminator even genesis even genesis wow i know because she's dead she's dead in the new continuity because each of the new terminator films after terminator 2 were meant to kick off a
Starting point is 00:31:59 trilogy it's a trilogy of films that tried to kick off a trilogy yeah and they've all got a different john connor it's absolute insanity yeah but though i watched some of genesis the It's a trilogy of films that tried to kick off a trilogy. Yeah. And they've all got a different John Connor. It's absolute insanity. Yeah. But though I watched some of Genesis the other day, it's okay. I think Genesis had a great idea. Yeah. But a rotten execution.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Yeah. And it had a rotten. It opens well. And it had a rotten reveal. Yeah. Of who the bad guy was in it. And I think if they'd let that lie and we'd been surprised by it in the theatres. And I mean, a lot of that,
Starting point is 00:32:27 there's the bit where somebody can see their future through the time stream or whatever, or grab their future self, whatever it was, or their past self. But I love the idea in Terminator 6 of the time stream is just ruined now. And people, good guys and bad guys have just gone back so many times
Starting point is 00:32:44 that it's just a mess and Kyle Reese goes back expecting to find Val Kyle Reese, what are you doing mate? you've already been through time what were you doing before this? you should be doing that oh my god, he didn't fall into a well
Starting point is 00:33:00 he fell through the time stream this guy but I love the idea that he expected her to be like helpless valley girl and then she was she'd been already rescued by another terminator in the 70s and was now a you know a badass not well cast though no i mean i yeah i mean i didn't think she was a good i mean you compare her to linda hamilton she's got the look but she's very tiny yeah like five foot four or something like that yeah so five foot one maybe yeah um yeah it was just rotten execution i love
Starting point is 00:33:31 the idea that it might just become all right here's another trip through time what's gonna what are we gonna end up with now yeah you know kind of thing but this one so this is too shiny as well yeah so but i mean if this is a sequel to termininator 2, is it set now? Yes, I assume so. So is this one in which Judgment Day in 1997 was averted? Potentially, yeah. Or delayed at the very least. Delayed, okay. What we do know about it is there's going to be a young Arnold and an old Arnold.
Starting point is 00:33:57 And old Arnold is the template for the Terminator. So they're going with that. Which they kind of hinted at in Terminator 3 in like a like a cut out scene also there's going to be human Arnold human Arnold yeah presumably some kind of general in the future
Starting point is 00:34:10 or something okay not general candy or whatever he was yeah well that's Sergeant Candy I assume not well that's not even in the Terminator
Starting point is 00:34:15 continuity of that universe that wasn't also canon but I I shouldn't get my hopes up no every time I hear something about this
Starting point is 00:34:24 I'm like maybe yeah might be good this is about when a franchise gets good again I shouldn't get my hopes up. No. Every time I hear something about this, I'm like, maybe. Yeah. Might be good. This is about when a franchise gets good again, if it does. Number five, normally. Five. Well, that's a miss.
Starting point is 00:34:33 You're a movie late, but we'll take it. Yeah, we'll take it if it's good. What else we got here? Tom Holland has just revealed the name of the new Spider-Man movie. It's called Spider-Man Far From Home. I don't like it but whatever it doesn't matter tom holland what are you doing mate what are you doing revealing the title early mate what are you doing mate you're gonna get so much trouble the boss is at marvel mate what are you
Starting point is 00:34:56 thinking just keep your mouth shut learn your lines mate i like how he's just actively discouraging people just across the universe. Whatever you're up to. What are you doing? No, come on. You're on a good thing, mate. You're on a good wicket. You need Australian references in there as well. Don't jeopardise your job, mate.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Look, I'm not pissing in your pocket, mate. I just need you to get it together. Sorry, sir. I'm just trying my best. Just try my best. I'm just trying my best just try my best I'm just oh this isn't a good show anymore is it what do we do here someone argue it's never been a good show yeah that's probably true but he did it wasn't one of those fake accidental revealed like reveals like he held up the script or on his ipad i don't like the title apparently it said in london some of this or whatever and okay yeah whatever um i was gonna say how would
Starting point is 00:35:50 he get his costume through customs but we're in a world where tony stark can just launch it in a rocket across a continent exactly also you think the new one doesn't have anything in it anyway so i'd probably just you could probably just get it through. Yeah, exactly. That's probably true, yeah. Yeah, which I think is right, looking at the Avengers, yeah. Also, there's a Silk movie, it looks like, in the works at Sony, another spin-off of their new Spider-Man universe. Okay, this is the latest in their soon-to-be-cancelled Spider-Man spin-offs. All right, I'm listening. They cancelled Silver and Black, didn't they?
Starting point is 00:36:20 Yeah, they did, yeah. If that was ever announced. What's Silk again? Doesn't she got, she's got all the Spider-Man's powers or something? I'm very vague on Silk. Yeah. I think her costume is made of webbing. Is that?
Starting point is 00:36:32 Very good. I know. Makes sense. What, she makes a new one every time? I think so. Going back to the well. Here we go. I remember on bloody Beyond Tomorrow or Beyond 2000,
Starting point is 00:36:41 that Australian show that was about the future, but it was always about a car that turned into a boat, as we've talked about before. And one of the things they showed was the future of clothing is spray on clothing. So you know how sometimes clothing is a little bit baggy. Imagine if you sprayed on a skin tight shirt. Yeah, that's fucking great. Imagine that. They put it on like Matt Shervington.
Starting point is 00:37:01 That's awesome if you're Olympic runner Matt Shervington who has 3% body fat. But what about anybody else in the world? Anyway, it just looked horrendous. And at the end of the day, you'd peel it off and throw it in the bin. And I'm like, well, that's the worst idea of anything ever. Okay. So Silk's abilities were gained. She was bitten by the same spider as Peter Parker.
Starting point is 00:37:21 So before it died. Yeah, before it died. Okay. So she has... has wait as in the same like directly after immediately afterwards and then she just lay low for a decade let's see she's unable to control her powers oh no uh and she's okay and then she after six years training to use her powers she's locked up to protect her blah blah blah blah blah blah blah look at it basically it looks like she's been in she was in training for six years okay fair enough
Starting point is 00:37:49 yeah okay uh and she has unlike original recipe peter parker she has organic web shooters as opposed to mechanical web shooters well this is a character that must have been invented around the time of the new movie 2014 that's that newer character okay there you go yeah well now we're all up to date she's also k character yep okay there you go yeah well now we're all up to date she's also Korean American so there we go there you bloody go
Starting point is 00:38:09 are we ready for another casting controversy when they make her white I'm always ready for that Mason I'm constantly bracing myself yeah no I think they'll actually go with that now
Starting point is 00:38:17 they should yeah if they make this movie which they won't they will not Disney have upped Comcast's 65 billion billion all-cash bid to buy all the Fox properties.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Yes. Including the crap stuff. Their bid is $71.3 billion and $38 per share in cash and stock, whatever that means. But if you're unhappy with this, there's a fan out there who's doing a remake, the remake Fox, Marvel's bid for Fox's properties. And if they can just-
Starting point is 00:38:49 They've got a backer already. They've got a backer who will meet, they're going to get $50 billion and their backer will give the other $50 billion, making $100 billion. And then you can make whatever silver and black silk Spider-Man movies you want. No, that's a Sony thing. That's a different property. Oh, yeah, okay. You can make as many X-Men, Banshee movies as you want.
Starting point is 00:39:10 So good. As many as you need. So good. I'm in two minds about where this should go. Yes. I mean, with Disney, it's in good hands in terms of creatively, potentially. But also, it's a lot for one studio. And also, I don't really like comcast
Starting point is 00:39:26 either no exactly the worst it's it's lose lose they say again even though we are outside the grip of comcast because we are not subject to their internet service everybody i know in america who has comcast or any any association associated with them is like they are the worst company in the world exactly and so yeah well like technically ea was the worst company in the world. Exactly. And so, yeah. Well, technically, EA was voted worst company in the world. Was it? There you go. I think they won two years in a row.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Congratulations, EA. Yeah. Look, I don't think that's objectively true, but it shows how much people hate EA. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. So, I don't know. I'm in two minds about it.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I think to keep everything away from Comcast. Yeah. But. This is all about streaming. Yeah. This is all about controlling content. I imagine what is going to happen is that Disney are going to sell off. Like once they get all the Fox's entertainment properties,
Starting point is 00:40:17 they're going to sell a lot of them off again. You think? I think they're just going to. Because they have to like. Hang on. I'm just going to adjust here. Hello, dog. Sitting on my weird wallet.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Anyway. It's a weird wallet. It is a weird wallet. It's a weird wallet, listen. You listen. Because I don't think they want everything. Yeah. I think they're going to be... You have to buy it all as a lot, I assume. And I think they're just going to buy most...
Starting point is 00:40:38 They're going to buy the whole thing and then sell off what they're not going to use. That's very possible. I think merchandise alone, they might keep it. Yeah. And then a lot of this're not going to use. That's very possible. I think merchandise alone, they might keep it. Yeah. And then a lot of this stuff will go to streaming services. And maybe they'll just be like, well, Aliens is now a streaming service show. It's not a...
Starting point is 00:40:53 Yeah, right. I think they're going to make a whole bunch of separate smaller divisions. Yeah. And then just own everything. Fox Searchlight is good producing some indie stuff. Indie darling stuff. Can you name one? Not off the top of my head, no.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Probably one about a sad dad. Sad dad, yeah. He's looking after his sister's kid because his sister died or something. But he just wants to build boats or something. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Depressed boat builder. Yeah, it's good.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Yeah, it's really, yeah. Ryan Felipe's in it. He's back. He's back. Sideways. There's back sideways there's a fox i've never seen it it's good i bet it's not it's got the sandman in it i know the sandman it's got the other one right the rhino in it it's got two great spider-man villains the best ones three billboards you've seen three billboards i like three oh i did and i did it i've been two minds about it what did you think that well that's good it make you think it made me think do i like this yeah all right i liked it because it felt like just a slice of life of like a bunch of awful people and i don't think it had to be any more than that i just think it was kind of he is but it takes a turn at one
Starting point is 00:42:00 point which i didn't fully think was earned oh okay i'm not talking about it okay i don't want to spoil three okay right yeah uh-huh all right i think i like the first three quarters more than okay the rest of it yeah right anyway should we do the next ad and then talk about how many kingdoms are there that are falling down mason audiobooks are a great sidekick for summer activities i'm talking hiking I'm talking sunbathing I'm talking beach I'm talking running
Starting point is 00:42:28 I'm talking road tripping I'm talking enjoying downtime outdoors and more I'm talking a barbecue where you're on the bloody tongs And you don't want to talk to anybody So you put an audiobook in So you've invited people around for a barbecue Correct, I'm on the tongs You're on the tongs
Starting point is 00:42:41 Yes But you just want to listen to an audiobook That's correct I understand that Mason Because listening I find And when somebody's like Hey mate, Mason. Yeah. Because listening, I find... And when somebody's like, hey, mate, can you put on some more chops? I'm like, no. Hey, how about you shut the fuck up?
Starting point is 00:42:51 Exactly. I've been to your barbecues. I'm listening to an audio book. Hey, somebody's falling in the pool. Shut up. Shut up. I'm listening to an audio book. Listening, though, is a better way to binge content outdoor concerts
Starting point is 00:43:06 i'm there i'm watching i'm watching sublime that's right i get to the big chorus and what i got and i'm like shut up i'm listening to an audio book so i'm still around i don't know if they are i don't know i'm sure they are all right uh but i find they're really good because to actually physically sit down and read something yep i often don't have the time to do that so if i'm driving or running or going anywhere or barbecuing barbecuing you're on the tongs i'm yelling at my guests you know how difficult it is to be on the tongs yeah and also turning the pages of a book it's really hard so difficult that's what you used to do yeah like. Like a savage. Exactly. Yeah. Audible, though, have the largest selection of audio books on the planet, which lets you
Starting point is 00:43:48 fill your summer or winter, we're in winter, with stories like, and I thought, hey, what better book to tie into our episode this week than the original Jurassic Park book by Michael Crichton, which I maintain to this day is still a great book. I love the first one and the second one, The Lost World, as well. It's a really interesting kind of slice of life for where DNA technology was at that point in time. Yeah, right, and Unix systems. And Unix system, almost certainly.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I'd be interested to, because I haven't listened to it. So we've got Jurassic Park, Michael Crichton, 15 hours, 9 minutes, narrated by Scott Brick. That'd be longer, okay. Yeah, but if you've read the original jurassic park there's a lot of bits where it's just displays of what is happening on the unix screen so i'm i'd be really interested to see how they're describing it in the book well i remember skipping those as a kid when i read it the first time so i don't think they'd probably include them
Starting point is 00:44:39 they'd just be like and then there's a page of unix stuff yeah for sure just take my word for it you don't need to know any of it. Yeah. Maybe they readapt. Maybe they've since re-edited it so it's more like the movie. Okay, sure, yeah. It's like, I'm hacking into the Matrix or whatever. I'm getting into the Matrix files.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Ooh, they've got a whole bunch of Michael Crichton on here. Yeah, yeah. They've got Sphere. Oh, yeah. I've never read that. They've got Prey, which is about the swarm
Starting point is 00:44:58 of killer nanobots. I have read that one. I like that one, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Congo. Congo. Do you like Apes and Lasers? I can't hardly recommend Congo. I haven't read it, but I've only seen the movie. Yeah, yeah. Congo. Congo. Do you like apes and lasers? I can't hardly recommend Congo.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I haven't read it, but I've only seen the movie. But I did like the bit where they cut up a bunch of apes with lasers. Yeah, yeah, that was great stuff. With a diamond gun. Ooh, Andromeda Strain is on there. Okay, good stuff. He's got the new one about dragons or something. Well, he's dead.
Starting point is 00:45:18 He's so dead. There was one, there was a new one. Oh, man, he produced some great pirate latitudes. What's that about? Anyway. It's mostly about stealing graph paper. Oh, man, he produced some great pirate latitudes. What's that about? Anyway. It's mostly about stealing graph paper. Oh, nice. It's worth a lot on the black market.
Starting point is 00:45:30 You better believe it is, Mason. Audible also helps you listen to books by letting you switch seamlessly between devices. It doesn't help you switch semen. You can edit that out. Picking up exactly where you left off, whether it's on your phone, through your car, from a tablet, or an Amazon Echo. You can get through a ton of books hands-free and eyes-free whilst doing almost anything. I love that, how it can switch between devices. That is great.
Starting point is 00:45:53 It remembers where you are. Yeah, that's right. So if you want to get back to reading, you want to get back to the audiobook. You're on the tongs, you're not on the tongs. You know what I mean? It's up to you. Also, Audible members get a credit every month. Good for any audiobook in their store regardless
Starting point is 00:46:05 of price and unused credit also rolls over to the next month so you don't lose that exactly which is yeah that's great so if you're like oh i can't see i mean i always find something good but if you don't yeah you don't lose it you can just and then maybe you see two books next next month exactly get them also if you don't like an audiobook book, you can exchange it, which is great. Yeah. That's really good, yeah. Plus also, your books are yours to keep, which is good. They're yours forever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:31 With Audible, also, you can go back and re-listen any time, even cancel your membership also at any time. Start a 30-day trial and get your first audio book for free. Go to audible.com slash planet or text planet to 500 500 you can do it with audiobooks is that the slogan that's what it says i love it i have to say it all again though start a 30-day trial and your first audiobook is free go to audible.com slash planet or text planet to 500 500 you can do it with audiobooks. I consciously made a decision not to do it in that Adam Sandler movie voice.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Oh, Michael Crichton, Great Train Robbery. Get that one. That's a good one. Mason, Jurassic World, Fallen Off Kingdom. Yes. It's a movie. It's in cinemas the world over. It took us bloody time getting here, didn't it, mate?
Starting point is 00:47:22 I'll tell you that much. Did it? Yeah, it came out in England like two weeks ago. Did it really? Yeah, remember we were considering England like two weeks ago. Did it really? Yeah, remember we were considering flying over for the premiere, for the world premiere? Yeah, but we insisted on first class. Correct.
Starting point is 00:47:32 And Claire was like, I'm not paying $10,000 a ticket. And we said, you will pay for that, Claire. And then she didn't. She didn't. And there was nothing more we could do. Yeah, and we weren't really invited. No, no. None of that story is true.
Starting point is 00:47:44 None of it. Just to clarify. But it's doing really well domestically in the US. It looks like it's going to hit $144 million over the weekend. They estimated between $130 to $140 million, so a little bit above that. And worldwide, the total so far is $524.7 million. What we're going to do as we do every episode,
Starting point is 00:48:01 there's a few spoilers in here that haven't been revealed in the trailers. Very few, but all right. If haven't been revealed in the trailers. Very few, but all right. If they have been revealed in the trailers, we'll probably talk about them in the non-spoiler section because that shit's been out there for like a year. And then we'll go into spoilers, but it's all time-coded below. But if you really don't want to know anything, you could probably skip this.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Skip this, skip what we're reading, skip the letters segment, skip next week episode because we're definitely going to spoil something from this episode in this because we'll just forget that we're talking about this on a podcast and we'll just have a conversation. Look, my memory isn't what it used to be, Mason. I'm not going to lie, but I know yours is in terms of what you think the story was. Oh, you got me. You look genuinely surprised.
Starting point is 00:48:43 I know. You looked rattled. Yes. Like a man talking to you while you're trying to listen to an audio book while on the tongs. God damn. What do you got? All right.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Because oftentimes, a little bit of a peek behind the curtain, I'm not actually rattled when you ask me what the story was because we've done it so many times that I actually am aware. But this time, you bloody got me. So, okay. So it's shortly after the events of the original Jurassic World. It's the real time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:12 So, and after the event, they've shut down the park, obviously. There's been a massive group lawsuit. What do you call that? A grawsuit. A grawsuit. Thank you. A Tim McGraw suit because it's so much class action there's been a class action lawsuit that's cost them 800 million dollars or something like that because it isn't that much it's not that much considering there
Starting point is 00:49:34 were thousands of people there and they were all killed by dinosaurs i'd imagine in gen are like disney 800 million dollars is nothing to them right yeah anyway so i keep going or is it though no not for that part because this movie this movie we're about to watch is about i feel i feel the plot of this hinges on the bad guys doing something that if in gen were doing anyway yeah they'd have a lot more money but it doesn't seem like they were doing that we'll talk about in spoilers but i don't know like they were doing that. We'll talk about it in spoilers. We'll talk about spoilers, yeah. I don't know if they do. I think InGen are literally, maybe they're just like. They're like Kodak.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Yeah, I don't know. I think maybe they're like flu vaccines, but also dinosaurs. Like dinosaurs. Yeah, I know he does do other stuff. I think they're like a fun, like this is their fun side project. Like it's, sure we make landmines, but we also make clone dinosaurs yeah anyway yeah but anyway yeah you're right it's probably not that much money anyway uh so they're shutting the they've shut the park down but there's a bloody a newly active reacted volcano on
Starting point is 00:50:38 on on the isla nublar correct and uh and it's gonna explode and kill all the dinosaurs so who's gonna get the dinosaurs to explode and kill all the dinosaurs. So who's going to get the dinosaurs off? Or should they get the dinosaurs? Should they even get the dinosaurs off? Should they just let them go extinct? Let them die, yeah. They probably should have, but they don't. Yep.
Starting point is 00:50:54 So I didn't like this. Didn't you? I didn't think it was very good. I quite liked it. What are you talking about? It was a fun thrill ride. It was not a fun thrill ride. Yes, it was.
Starting point is 00:51:03 It was derivative, and there were some flashes of good stuff in it but derivative of what previous movies previous all movies or previous Jurassic Park movies
Starting point is 00:51:13 mostly Jurassic movies I know you haven't seen it or if you haven't a long time ago you should watch The Lost World because if you like this you should watch
Starting point is 00:51:19 The Lost World is it much the same no The Lost World is a better film but that's what I'm saying is it set is it set in a mansion there's a lot there's actually a lot of similarities because the lost world is also about getting dinosaurs off the island for profit or whatever okay
Starting point is 00:51:31 but not for not to bloody give them guns or whatever yeah uh well that's the thing maybe because it's i haven't seen all the other ones yeah that i'm not sick of the tropes yet yeah but that's the thing i'm not sick of the tropes or. Yeah, but that's the thing. I'm not sick of the tropes or the dinosaurs, but this was... This is... And look, to be fair, I didn't hate it, but I think this is the worst one. Really? By a fair margin, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Worse than... Three, yes. Worse than... Three. Nice. Back to yourself. That was good. There's so many nonsensical...
Starting point is 00:52:02 And I think because it's broken up into two parts, like your Dinosaur Island stuff and Spooky Dinosaur Mansion, I don't think either of them are particularly effective. Okay. I thought Dinosaur Island was way better than Dinosaur Mansion. Yeah, I'd agree with that too, yeah. Wow, that sounds like a series of video games. But I think that...
Starting point is 00:52:18 I think, for me, the Dinosaur Island stuff was fun enough to overcome the fact that it was kind of cliche. Yeah. No, that was probably my favourite part, and I thought it was going to be the other way around. Yeah, right. I thought it was when we see the new stuff. You were like, oh, Dinosaur Mansion's going to be fun.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Yeah, but it was kind of not. Yeah, right. This guy's got a horror directing background, and the movies of his that I've seen are like The Impossible, which actor has Tom Holland as a little boy. Hello. Ewan McGregor's his father. It's good. It ewan mcgregor's his father it's good it's about a father yeah it's good daddy anyway you should watch it it's really good but uh no i just i think it's also kind of highlighted the flaws with this the new series more like it didn't kind of build off the last jurassic world and make the
Starting point is 00:53:02 characters more endearing or or add anything new to the lore in terms of stuff we didn't really know from the last movie. Because the big plan in this one, a lot of it is, we'll make the Indominus Rex again, but it can run down a corridor. Yes. You know, like it's not really a, you know, and then at the end-
Starting point is 00:53:17 I thought it was scarier. Yeah, it's probably a scarier film, sure, because it's- I thought that I meant the dinosaur itself is scarier. Yeah, because it can open doors and stuff, like a wrap, because it's small. Yeah, yeah. But I think, I don't think it's a, I think I preferred the last one.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Should have given it 100 guns. That's just kidding. Well, we talked about that. I mean, this one did get, we were given another kind of, we were given an evil businessman. Yeah. We were given another dinosaur hunter. Yes. What's his deal? What's going on there. What's his deal?
Starting point is 00:53:45 What's going on there? What is his deal? There's also a dinosaur hunter very similar to him played by Pete Pothwaite in The Lost World. You should watch The Lost World. I'm not going to. No, you really should. If you liked this, you'll probably really like The Lost World.
Starting point is 00:54:00 And it's Maximum Goldblum. It's a Goldblum movie. I do like Goldblum. You should watch it. I'm telling you, man. I like his Instagram. Yeah, exactly. And it's not a perfect film, but it's better than this.
Starting point is 00:54:10 I'd be interested to know what you think. Okay. What do you think about the Chris Pratt and Bryce Dallas Howard's character? They're fine. They're fine. I think Bryce Dallas Howard's character's improved quite a lot. Yeah. Footwear-wise, at least.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Yeah, for sure. I liked most of their interactions. They were pretty good. Have they made his character dumber? I think maybe... They made him... He's kind of dumb in the first one, wasn't he? Yeah, maybe he's kind of dumb in the first one.
Starting point is 00:54:31 He's so rugged. He's always out in the open, isn't he? Yeah. He's building a house. He's reloading a gun. Yeah. He's touching lava with his bare hand. That happened, didn't it?
Starting point is 00:54:41 Yeah, maybe. I think it happened. All right. It definitely happened. Okay. Yeah, that bit I quite like, though, I think it happened. All right. It definitely happened. Okay. Yeah, that bit I quite like, though, that scene. Yeah. Which we'll probably talk about more in spoilers.
Starting point is 00:54:50 But, no, they're fine, but I don't think any of these new characters are iconic as the stuff that people introduced in the first one. And maybe it's because I saw those movies when I was a kid, but those characters felt more like real people. And even the way the B.D. Wong developed feels more real than just like a cool guy who rides a motorcycle who's good at everything you're not talking about the side characters because we get supporting characters we get a we get a
Starting point is 00:55:13 paleo veterinarian i guess or a dinosaur veterinarian and a nerd exactly i quite like those guys yeah they're fine i didn't mind he probably screamed a bit much. Yeah, yeah, right. But I thought they were okay, actually. But he gets less terrified as the movie progresses, which I think is... He's more comfortable indoors. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I like those guys.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I'm sure they're trying to... They're going to attempt to spin them. They're going to focus group those characters and see if they're popular and then spin them off. It's weird they didn't bring back Jake Johnson in that role, though. Yeah, right? Because he's the park tech guy. It would make sense. But I didn't mind the new guy.
Starting point is 00:55:47 I don't know his name, but I didn't mind either of them. But the villains were appropriately villainous, and there's kind of a – it's not really a reveal, but there's a twist in terms of which one of them is a villain, which we'll talk about in spoilers, which was just like his whole demeanor changed. Yes, it sure did. His clothing changed.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Yeah, okay. We'll talk about it later. Okay, I won't lie to you. I was in the toilet when thatanor changed. Yes, it sure did. His clothing changed. Yeah, okay. We'll talk about it later. Okay, I won't lie to you. I was in the toilet when that was happening. Okay, right. No wonder you like this movie. Yeah. You're a great wee.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Yeah. I didn't mind James Cromwell as the other bloody Richard Attenborough. Correct, yes. Or whatever. It's a shame that I think that role would have been really good for Richard Attenborough. Correct, yes. Or whatever. It's a shame that I think that role would have been really good for Richard Attenborough. He died in 2014 and he wasn't acting a lot of the end. Yeah, they could have gone.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Who? David Attenborough. Yeah, exactly. But a lot of that guy's backstory was me and Hammond built the park together. Where the fuck were you? I've never even heard of you, mate. There's been five of these movies. You're very old.
Starting point is 00:56:44 You've been around for a lot of this and the thing that you did to piss off hammond that must have happened in 1998 yep because they separate for various we'll talk about spoilers uh-huh but okay i think i mean that's where you've been cromwell yeah see i don't think that that is a i don't think that's an issue at all because that's just retconning like that happens in comic books all the time that happens in all the comic book movies just like oh we need another protagonist well so there was another guy on the team in the 40s or whatever here he is well the other thing that was uh because the the other movies are now this movie confirms that they're all in continuity so two and three uh-huh and i've talked i did an easter egg video that i talk about it there
Starting point is 00:57:20 about specific links because they reference moments okay from those movies I was going to say, I can't remember. So I was thinking at the start of this movie, why are they going to Dinosaur Explosion Island when there's another island with all the dinosaurs that is roaming free? They could just go grab them because there's two islands. You're familiar with Site B, right? Yes. That's Jurassic.
Starting point is 00:57:39 That's Lost World. That's where Lost World 3 is set. But apparently in the, and this is in the official wiki and whatever, assuming comic books, they do go and get those dinosaurs and they put them in the park. So they're not there anymore. Oh, so they emptied out site B.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Site B, apparently, yeah. So there you bloody go, mate. There we go. Yeah. But again, though, these movies, I still think if you hadn't seen those movies, well, as you haven't, it doesn't really, it doesn't matter at all. You don't need to know any of that regardless.
Starting point is 00:58:09 That's just kind of on me. There's a little, the new little girl, because there's always going to be a fraidy cat kid. She was good. Yeah, I agree. I think the kids in all these movies, they normally cast them pretty well. And she was good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Did you like the emphasis on animatronics over CGI? There was a blend. And did you think the blend worked? Ironics over cgi that there was a blend and did you think it would the blend worked i think it did for the most part yeah much better than because we recently re-watched jurassic world for a commentary and some of that stuff some of the cgi was surprisingly bad in that yeah and this this was much improved i think i think a lot of this is darker as well like yeah i mean literal darkness for a bunch of it yeah but there is like they i know they made a t-rex for the bit where chris pratt's in the cage with it or whatever it's in the trailer and the the main villain dinosaur like they made them when they're all kind of stampeding together main villain dinosaur i mean they cgi'd
Starting point is 00:59:00 the twirly mustache yeah i think that works but when they're all kind of running, it's like a bit of a stampede. It's obviously CGI'd. It doesn't look as good, I guess. But I think it's a better looking movie than the last one. Yeah, right. On the whole. And they did a good job of run down Jurassic World Park. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:59:20 It felt the same, which I quite liked, yeah. Did you think the action sequences, this work,, they start big and then they get smaller? Yeah, right. You said you liked the island stuff more. Was that what you liked about it? That is a good question. I'm great at everything. You're great at asking questions.
Starting point is 00:59:38 That's right. But you're not great at answering questions of your own. Same question back at you. What did I even say? See? I don't know. I don't think it's a scale issue. I think, you know.
Starting point is 00:59:51 A creativity thing? Yeah. I don't know. I just love people running from stuff on islands. Sure. How good is it? That's why you loved Lost. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:59 That's why you jumped on board for all 15 seasons or whatever like that. To it for, right? No, I've never watched Lost. Mate, you're going to love it. If you like people running from things on an island. No. But if you also don't want to.
Starting point is 01:00:10 I love people running from definitive things on an island. I was going to say, if you want to, you know. Know what they are. Know what they are, then yeah. Sometimes it's a polar bear. Sometimes it's a cloud of smoke or something. Yeah, right. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Yeah. But no, I'm with you though. I don't think it was a scale thing i think it was they were better designed and you know there's a bit where the raptors helping them out because it's like a dog at this point basically i kind of i like the way they elaborated on blue and how it's it's got more empathy than another it's some sort of genetic anomaly yeah yeah which i quite liked but i'm not sure i bought why they needed that one in particular. Like why that was the one that they were like. Yeah, right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Exactly. Yeah. You could have just, I mean, for what they needed, you could have just used a hologram probably. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, that's fine. Which they have. They certainly do.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Yeah. Did any of the dinosaurs though in particular stand out? Like Smell-O-Vision hologram. You put a dinosaur smell. Smello-Holo. Yeah. Did any of the dinosaurs stand out? Because I mean, that's what these are about.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Yeah. I mean, We had the little The little ram dinosaur Yeah The name of which escapes me Again you'd like The Lost World Because there's one of that
Starting point is 01:01:11 Oh okay alright Yeah yeah And do you think These are deliberate throwbacks Or do you think It's just There's a limited number of tropes People know six dinosaurs
Starting point is 01:01:19 People know the main ones And the ram one Just makes it in Yeah right exactly Look I'm a big fan Of the ankylosaur And that made an appearance Sure It's good Enjoy that uh no spitties no spitties no though i think you hear one apparently hocking one up you see one hocking up a loogie you do
Starting point is 01:01:35 you know what i really liked actually in this i loved the opening sequence was good wasn't it was amazing yes like legit amazeballs, Mason. Oh, he's going with amazeballs. Can we slightly spoil it, I guess? Yeah, okay, why not. Okay, so this is a spoiler for the start. But basically, some InGen peeps go back to the Jurassic World island and their plan is to get into the Mosasaurus tank
Starting point is 01:02:00 and get the Indominus Rex bones so they can clone it. From the marrow, presumably, yeah. And they can clone it from the marrow presumably yeah and they go in there and they're like don't worry everything anything that could be in here is is probably is almost certainly dead because it's been three years yep it's not it's very much alive yes and so as that's kind of attacking them i mean they get the bone out uh the t-rex makes an appearance yes and and is what and it's all kind of comes to a head and i thought that was like genuinely suspenseful i don't know any of these people but i'm invested in yes also i want to see him get torn apart and that was because that's the thing it was a way
Starting point is 01:02:34 there was i think it was a well-cast opening sequence yeah because it's characters you we've never been introduced to before ever yeah but you kind of you're like i want this guy to live yeah what about this guy what's going on with these people kind of thing you know and it's it's any of them could have been a main character throughout the rest of the movie so you're like who's gonna who's gonna live and who's gonna die in this yeah exactly also that whole bit is spoiled in the trailer of what ends up happening all right i'm not gonna say it but i was gonna say i i think it kind of it harkens back mason if you don't know oh here we go using that terry harkins is the opening the opening of your favorite character that's right the original jurassic park has a similar sequence where they're it's a lot of kind of faceless people you don't
Starting point is 01:03:12 know and they're delivering a raptor into the pen and it just goes nuts and kills one of them and it's really tense and you know it's a great opening you don't really see what's going on but it's a great opening sequence so it kind kind of reminded me of that. That being said, this is the worst one. This is the worst Jurassic Park movie. Disagree. We haven't seen all of them. I know. Here's a controversial opinion. Of the movies I've seen, Jurassic Park, Jurassic World, Jurassic
Starting point is 01:03:35 World Fallen Kingdom, they're about the same. You are 100% the same. Quality wise, they are exactly the same. No, they're not. Yes, they are. Tweet at me only if you agree. Should we do spoilers? Yeah, let's do spoilers. I'm going to say best movie ever.
Starting point is 01:03:51 I enjoyed this one. Look, I don't hate any of these. So I guess it gets a best from me. But I was pretty disappointed with this. Yeah. Because you save your hate for One Legger Die Hard, don't you? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:02 So just gear up for that. Wait, I think you'll save your... I meant that. I was talking about that. Exactly, yeah. Yeah. hate for the for one leg of die hard don't you yeah absolutely yeah just gear up for that wait i think you'll save you i was talking about exactly yeah yeah okay spoilers from here on out okay what i thought was fascinating about this so they get in first of all let's talk about the villain so the villain is uh he he's one of the detectives from hot fuzz yes he is he works for james cromwell james cromwell snatched him out of college and said, I want you to run the nice side of the company and all the good business stuff. And he's like, okay. Yeah, but you don't suspect it at the start.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Because he's so nice. He's not wearing his horn-dribbed glasses. He's got an open-collar shirt. He's just cracking wires. He's cool and casual. He's cool and casual. He's self-deprecating. He's like, oh, I'm not young and cool anymore.
Starting point is 01:04:46 What happened to me? And then someone flicked a switch in his head because then he smothers James Cromwell to death. That's when I left. Okay, you left that scene. I heard about that afterwards. Yeah, right. And then there's a moment where he meets Claire again.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Oh, my God. I remember that name. Claire. Yeah. The main character. He's got them locked up and he's got horn-rimmed glasses
Starting point is 01:05:07 and a button-up suit and he's like you know you shouldn't trust anybody that's not the dialogue and she hits him in the face and breaks his glasses in the next scene
Starting point is 01:05:15 he's got another pair of glasses and that bothered me he just has two of the same pair of glasses I mean I guess he does he's rich whatever but just so
Starting point is 01:05:23 kind of you could have just kept him casual. Maybe he went to Specsavers. He might have gone to Specsavers. Two pairs for $199. That seems reasonable, sure. But he's a very rich man.
Starting point is 01:05:31 But just the whole... He probably bought four pairs for $398. You don't need to visually represent that he's some buttoned down corporate fat cat. He could still be the loosey-goosey collar guy. Well, I agree with that. I think it's weird it's weird to have a weird it's weird to have
Starting point is 01:05:47 a weird thing but it's weird to have such a drastic character left turn in the middle of a movie there are there are movie villains and it's
Starting point is 01:05:56 I guess it's more for comedic effect but it should be more in every movie where if a character is a goofy good guy at the start when they take
Starting point is 01:06:04 the heel turn they should be a goofy bad guy. You know, it's a good example of that working. Yes. Paul Reisner in Aliens. Yeah. So there we go. He's essentially the same character.
Starting point is 01:06:12 You just learn a little bit more about it. And you hate it. And you hate it. Yeah. And I think that could have worked. Here's the one I worked. Yeah. I was thinking, you know what?
Starting point is 01:06:20 It's not the same thing, but the villain in Solo. What's his face? Dryden. Paul Bettany. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. He's a lunatic not the same thing but uh the villain in solo what's his face dryden paul bettany oh yeah okay yeah he's a lunatic throughout the whole thing but like he's he's fun and goofy yeah that's a good example he's fun and goofy and he's like hey we're just gonna do business and then he's like but if we don't do business i'm gonna murder you cut your face off your face off but he maintains that he doesn't become he doesn't start out fun and charming and become a killer he's always fun and charming and a killer throughout the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:06:46 And I think that should be... Yeah, he's a fun... The reason that guy's... I just find it weird that he just turned it off. And maybe he's a psychopath and he can do that. But I just thought that was odd. I love how... So they get in Toby Jones because his speciality is auctioning stuff
Starting point is 01:07:00 that you shouldn't auction to the mega rich and the mega evil. Now, Toby is uh he's a he's a little man yeah and he's he was a trim and capote type yeah he played him as such in a movie he's a was he a psychopath in recently was it an episode of sherlock he might be in sherlock i know he's an he's an evil version of dr who in his head the matt smith version oh i say right and he's also in uh well he he's Zola, obviously. Yeah. Oh, no, you're not in Sherlock. He's like the, he's the head of a company. Yeah, he's the.
Starting point is 01:07:29 And he's like, I'm just a fun-loving guy kind of thing, but secretly. He's the hospital guy. He's based off Jimmy Savile. That's right. Yeah, okay. All right, all right. I was going to say, well, that's not very realistic, but I guess it is if he's based on a real-life pedophile.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Okay, good stuff. I'm so glad Jimmy Savile is dead. Me too. Just a fucking terrible bloke. Yeah, so they get him in for the auction to auction the dinosaurs, and when they initially bring him in, he's like,
Starting point is 01:07:52 well, I tell you what, I don't normally do auctions like this. I need to make it worth my time. It's a fucking dinosaur auction. Are you out of your mind? Just do it for the novelty value alone. Just do it. Are you serious, idiot?
Starting point is 01:08:02 Just do it to be the same, just to do it in the same room as a whole bunch of dinosaurs. I'd do it for free. And he ends up doing the dinosaur auction, which is the most ridiculous thing because they roll out your favorite bloody bad boy, the Ankylosaurus.
Starting point is 01:08:13 They're like, you know what's good about the Ankylosaurus or whatever it's called? It's like a tank except it's living. Oh, is it? Can you put like 10 guys in it? Does it have a turret on it? Can you put 100 guns on it? Exactly. Absolute nonsense. I mean, that's the through line, but that's the thing. is it can you put like 10 guys in it does it have a turret on it put 100 guns on it exactly
Starting point is 01:08:25 i mean that's the through line but that's the thing like i think it's more what they because they say in this movie that selling the dinosaurs is just seed money so they can do other stuff but i think this is really like this is just kind of pete this is a pt barnum auction yeah you are tricking these people into buying this stuff. So you're like, how about $10 million for this? It's like a walking tank, but it's alive and it's a dinosaur. And they're like, great. And then they pay the money for it.
Starting point is 01:08:52 And then they leave and they're like, oh, man. I can't keep this anyway. This isn't as good as a tank. Because a tank, you can just leave it in a storage facility for a year. You leave a dinosaur in a storage facility for a year, it's dead. Exactly. Unless you leave it in a big old fish tank and then it thrives yeah yeah i thought that was yeah yeah and you could definitely read it like that as a con and i guess all these separate companies
Starting point is 01:09:13 were also doing their own genetic splicing and all that kind of shit which you know which yeah right be it but just the fact that you'd think that's a good thing to buy and they roll out the indo-raptor and they're like you know what's good about this it can what is what do they say it can take commands more acutely than a human being can it really it could take so i could say to that thing hey can you go get me like a can of coke from the fridge could you do that for me also don't murder me because you're a murderous monster also can you make it diet coke which is behind the regular coke so if you move the regular coke just to the side and get a diet coke. Actually, can I get it in a glass? And I want
Starting point is 01:09:47 three blocks of ice. So I can do that better than a human being can. You know what that thing can do? At its best, you have to have a gun. It can scream at a laser sight. Exactly. You put a laser sight on a person and it attacks that person if it feels like it. That's the extent of it. I mean, I know that
Starting point is 01:10:03 this is a prototype. We need blue so it teach it how to not to be a lunatic but that is not a good investment you buy that thing you've lost your mind if you've got a laser sight on someone guess what you can shoot that person you can shoot that person from space yeah if you got a laser sight on them you need a dinosaur that's 20 feet from them to then attack them. Yeah, right. It's absolute fucking insanity. Also, as soon as, and again, I did enjoy this movie, but it's really dumb. Also, if you're the opposition and you figure out that that's how they're doing it, just go to like a novelty store and buy a small laser pointer. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Just a bigger one. Yeah. And just be like, now it's killing you. Absolute nonsense. But again, it's a prototype. It's nonsense. But again, it's a prototype. Exactly. It's a prototype. But even then, I don't think it would get much better than that.
Starting point is 01:10:51 I mean, the Chris Pratt one barely doesn't eat everybody. And that's the best one. That's what I'm saying. I think this isn't... What they're trying to do is they're trying to monetize this thing before the bottom falls out of it. Yeah, okay. And that's why bloody D'Onofrio in the first one's like,
Starting point is 01:11:09 we're going to weaponize it. It's not going to work. But he just wants to make his money and get out. That's the key. He's like, I'm going to facilitate this. I'm going to make hundreds of millions of dollars, and then I'm going to get out before all these guys are killed by their own dinosaurs, which is going to happen.
Starting point is 01:11:22 You know where the money is? It's in cloning dead people. Yeah. Which is what they end up doing, which I thought was an interesting twist. Yep. Until they don't do anything with it. Well, they don't, and they don't, and they can't, because then this becomes, then the Jurassic world.
Starting point is 01:11:37 It's not Jurassic, is it? The sequel just becomes, hey, we can clone anybody now. It becomes the sixth day. Yeah, exactly. Which is a James Cromomwell movie yeah but i think the idea in in this is that the secret of cloning humans dies with cromwell yeah so i think she's the only one my my guess would be yeah but that's useful and also he's movies aren't about you i know but cromwell's not the only one who knows oh who else knows like the button down uh you think he's a good guy, but he's actually a nerd.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Right, but he doesn't know how it works. You just need the blood. Like you need the Indoraptor bone or whatever. No, I mean the cloning of the girl. The process. I'm saying that process died with Cromwell. Okay. He's the only one who perfected it and he only did it once.
Starting point is 01:12:21 But did he? What do you mean? Well, it's weird because he said Hammond disagreed with what I was doing or whatever but hammond's been dead for 20 years in this universe and that girl is what 10 maybe so he must be working on it prior okay it's weird that hammond's like this is the line you've crossed a lot of lines mate yeah yeah that's like and i i that bit i also understand like if you've lost a, that bit I understand, and I am as a dad, Mason. You couldn't possibly understand. Ugh.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Ugh. Puh. Puh. Puh. Puh. Puh. But I think there's an interesting story there, and also her being a clone ends up leading to releasing the dinosaurs
Starting point is 01:12:58 into the wild. Yes. Which is setting up a hopefully more interesting movie where it's Planet of the Apes, but it's dinosaurs. You think they're going to make another one? They are. It's happening, yeah. I mean, people have asked whether this is a game,
Starting point is 01:13:09 the game is on. Did you stay for the post-credits? I left, I didn't. I stayed for the post-credits. And what is it? Oh, you know what it is? It's a, you see some pteranodons, they're flying about. They fly onto like some sort of communications tower or whatever,
Starting point is 01:13:26 like a high thing on the top of a building. Pans down. Vegas, baby. Vegas, baby! And we see the Bellagio, that pool with the circles in it and the fountains. I've been there. This is Jurassic World, oceans crossover. It's a heist and there's dinosaurs.
Starting point is 01:13:45 I want to see Daddy Ocean get dropped into the mouth of a tyrannosaurus. Yes, that's how he dies. That's how he dies. This is a prequel to Ocean's 8. That makes a lot of sense. It's setting up an interesting story, but also I don't think there's enough of these get out. It's not like cane toads.
Starting point is 01:13:58 I think you could track these things down pretty quickly. Well, they all have RFID chips in them. Yeah, exactly. And also that T-Rex isn't mating, is it? No. Because it's the only one. Well, that's the thing, because there doesn't seem to be mating pairs in this.
Starting point is 01:14:10 No. But maybe they learned to like, maybe they, didn't they? They can reduce asexually. Yeah, see, that's weird. I might be thinking of Godzilla 97. I think this happens in, I think it happens in Jurassic Park as well. No, in the first one, they can change sex. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 01:14:22 That's how it works. Yeah, yeah. But I love that it's got a scene where B.D. Wong's like, okay, the dinosaurs are out. Let's wrap it up. This has all gone south again. Let's go to another facility. What is his end game?
Starting point is 01:14:36 Good question, isn't it? But I think he just wants to build new species. He's doing a great job. Yeah, he really is. No, he sucks. He sucks at it. Put some guns on him, B.D. Put some guns on him. I He really is. No, he sucks. He sucks at it. Put some guns on him, BD. Put some guns on him.
Starting point is 01:14:45 I want Dino Riders, the movie. I think also it's their fault that the dinosaurs all escaped. It really is. They shouldn't have done that. There's going to be a lot of deaths on their hands. Well, there is at the end of this movie. Yep. So they go to let him out and then they're like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:14:59 It's probably best to let him die. And Bryce Dallas Howard is like, it's probably best to let him die because, you know, whatever. And then the clone kids are like, well, I'm a clone too. And I'm going to let all die and bryce dallas howard is like it's probably best to let him die because you know whatever and then the clone kids are like well i'm a clone too and i'm gonna let all these dinosaurs out and then it eats that man so yeah that's totally on them when dinosaurs eat people and run around the world yeah and they should i mean that the most of the stories isn't on them that's mcgee's in the in the tank or whatever that was that was their fault but so that escaped yeah god out at the end remember when it was in a big wave it was in a big wave and i was gonna so that yeah i know but i'm saying did they not so presumably they they closed that gate not in time for it to escape seems you saw
Starting point is 01:15:33 it get out though you saw it in a big wave that's what i'm saying but you didn't you don't see it leave at the start of the movie you do you see it leave yeah all right okay carry on you go to the toilet then as well probably i don't have anything I don't have anything to say about this. Do you have anything else to say? I don't think so, no. I got some reviews here from people. They're very negative. Really?
Starting point is 01:15:50 Oh, yeah. I'm not surprised, to be honest. Some Chon John. Thought Jurassic World Kingdom That Has Fallen was the worst movie ever. Thought it was predictable and the movie dragged on a bit too long. All I want to see is dinosaurs kill humans. Also, who do you think would win a fight between Jack-Jack and Superman? Superman, just throw him into space.
Starting point is 01:16:07 I think Jack-Jack would adapt, but he would still win that fight based on... Yeah, what do you think? I think Superman. Especially if it's Henry Cavill, because he'd just snap his neck. Snap his neck so hard. But does Jack-Jack have a neck? He's all like... He's mostly head and body.
Starting point is 01:16:19 He's mostly head and body, yeah. Official Dickhead says, Just got back from the cinema. Here's my hot scoop of Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom it's a real shot of poop two stars Dennis Alonzo says
Starting point is 01:16:29 saw Jurassic World 2 and have two magic complaints about it they essentially they essentially allowed at least a few thousand people to die and why would you have
Starting point is 01:16:35 someone call the police on themselves yeah yeah that's fair point Nathan Cox says I thought Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom was great some of the jump scares
Starting point is 01:16:43 even got me there you go Mason there's a bloody positive one Fido Ray says Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom was great. Some of the jump scares even got me. There you go, Mason. There's a bloody positive one. Fido Ray says, Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom is not a very good Jurassic Park movie, but it's a good The Game Is On movie. I'm not interested in seeing this film, but I'm interested in seeing the next one and what they'll do with it.
Starting point is 01:16:56 And Dylan says, Jurassic World 2 is an incomprehensible mess. I don't think I've hated every minute of a movie this much since BBS. Getting back to the Game Is On thing, I don't think it's a Game minute of a movie this much since BBS. Getting back to the Game is On thing. Yes. I don't think it's a Game is On movie because this has already made enough money to justify a sequel. To have a sequel, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:11 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so for anybody who doesn't know. Here we go. Here we go. Gear up. Gear up. Every year we give a bunch of our Weekly Planet Awards. I should just leave this in the description.
Starting point is 01:17:20 They're worth nothing. One of them is called The Game is On, in the description they're worth nothing one of them is called The Game Is On which is the most we give to the most
Starting point is 01:17:26 ham-fisted attempt to build a franchise or set up a sequel yep and look Goldblum has gotten pretty close in the past did he win for
Starting point is 01:17:34 Independence Day researchers he might have I think so yeah but they're like let's kick some alien ass that's also a movie I would have wanted to see
Starting point is 01:17:42 me too it's a shame the rest of it was bad. Agreed. But I would have seen the sequel. That's a real shame. Also, the bird dinosaurs get out at the end of Jurassic Park 3. And they get out at the end of Jurassic World, presumably.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, whatever. Keep going, sorry. Maybe this is a time shift. Vegas, baby! That's what I'm saying. Maybe they've been in Vegas for ages.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Yeah. And then the good guys go to Vegas. They're like, guys, there's pteranodons. They escaped and they're gonna be in vegas and they're like they've been in vegas for years they got a lounge act now and then the curtain opens and there's a pteranodon exactly love it um what are we talking about i've forgotten yeah but so the game is on yeah so i yeah i and i also like i feel i don know, there's been a lot of these. Like, for this to fail. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:29 But I think Solo now, depending on, like, we're not getting another Solo movie. Oh, yeah. That might be a big contender now. Yeah. Yeah. So depending on where they're going with that. I mean. I mean, Star Wars isn't going to stop, though.
Starting point is 01:18:41 So it probably still doesn't count. I mean, this is still in contention, I feel, because you don't necessarily... I mean, it is very much like, what's going to happen next? Yeah. So... But the other movies, everyone... This could have been a flop. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Maybe not a flop, but it could have underperformed. I don't think it's going to do well second week, necessarily. Yeah. But then again, I'm often wrong about everything. We're never wrong. But it's not going to do as well as the last one yeah yeah so it might be diminishing return so even if this one does well i think the third one if it's about this good it's not it's not a good sign but if
Starting point is 01:19:14 there's more goldblum in the next one they should be really because all he does is bookend the movie yeah i told you not to let all the dinosaurs out but you did and now you fucked it idiots that's what he's basically there for yeah he literally said just kill let them all die yeah and he was right right what is he an ethicist what's his uh he's a chaos theory theologian well he's been riding that train for like 25 years hasn't he mate not a real job he came up with some sort of cockamamie, Mickey Mouse, bloody snake oil profession 25 years ago, and he's just been wearing his smart suits and he's bloody opening up his shirt. He's a mathematician, that's right.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Oh, okay, right. He specializes in chaos theory. Okay. Or telling people that what they're doing is bad. So he made math sexy for a minute. He did. Yeah. And boy, did he.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Next thing, no, next segment? I don't know what else to say. Oh, yeah. I don't think... What else have I got? I'm just going through these things. No, no, no, no, no, no. Also, okay, I didn't even buy that any of these people
Starting point is 01:20:14 who wanted to save the dinosaurs really did. There's a bit where a Baryonyx attacks them on the island. What's that one again? It's the snappy one in the lava. It's coming through the lava tunnel. Oh, yes, yeah, yeah. And they're just like slamming the door on its head. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:20:28 And that thing's going to die. We'll see that soon. That room's going to fill up with lava. It's going to die. You know why? Because they're middle class. And that's what we do. We're like, we want to save all these precious animals.
Starting point is 01:20:36 But we want to save the apes. And then you go, you visit an ape, and an ape's threatening to you. And you're like, kill them all. Kill them all. Kill them with a flaser. A flaser. Congo style. A flaser. Thatgo style a flaser
Starting point is 01:20:45 that's right it's gonna say flamethrower but then i thought i'd tie it in either would work yeah for sure yeah what do you what do you call those again the snappy ones oh that was a baryonyx i feel that was that's just as good as like an indoraptor it's about the same isn't it yeah i bet it would still attack a laser i mean if you let it's like a cat chasing a laser pointer. Exactly. It would certainly attack a man. I mean, just use the ankle assault and knock over the front door, then send a couple of the snappy ones in, and that's it. You don't need to breed a new one. Yeah, or just shoot people from space,
Starting point is 01:21:19 which is what you could also do nowadays. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. All right, do you know what it's time for then? Is it time for what we read and what we're going to read? It is. Also, I'd love to know people's thoughts on that. You know what? I thought it was like, for sure. Yeah. All right. Do you know what it's time for then? Is it time for what we read and what we're going to read? It is. Okay. Also, I'd love to know people's thoughts on that. Ah!
Starting point is 01:21:27 You know what? I thought it was like... That's not the... I know! You dumbass. You're a dumbass. Hey, come on. I had it ready to go.
Starting point is 01:21:31 I was joking. Well, come on. That's okay. Yeah, people actually... People have thoughts on Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. I'd love to hear more of them. Anyway. I'm doing the thing.
Starting point is 01:21:40 I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? Ah, what have I been watching? I've been watching Kimmy Schmidt. Oh, is that good? I dropped off pretty early on on that. It's good. Hang on. I'm just going to check my Netflix queue to see what else I've been watching.
Starting point is 01:21:59 There's a show on SBS On Demand just called The Pizza Show. Not Fat Pizza? Sorry? Not Fat Pizza? No, it's like a documentary series where they Demand just called The Pizza Show. And they just go around. Sorry? Not Fat Pizza? No, it's like a documentary series where they go around eating different pizzas. Cool. Let me tell you, I want a bloody pizza right now. I bet you do, mate.
Starting point is 01:22:12 I know you had a weird meatball pizza the other day. Oh, I've been watching Luke. You know what? I've been watching Black Lightning. Yes. Which I've been enjoying. That's good, isn't it? It's good.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Is it better than Arrow? Yes. Okay. Yeah. But it's not tied in with arrow because they've made points to say different universe so for now yes until they all step through a rift or something yeah i've been watching black lightning which i'm enjoying i've been watching uh luke cage i didn't mind it i think the key for watching these netflix series is and it's amazing that
Starting point is 01:22:44 it's taken me long to this long to figure it out, just don't watch them all over a weekend. Watch a couple. I think that's why I'm just stopped completely. And I think maybe they should be... I think the overall perception of these shows would be a lot better now, currently, if they had released them week to week i think
Starting point is 01:23:05 people would be like i cannot wait for the next episode what's going to happen it's so interchangeable though yeah but i think but i but the fact that everybody you get them on a friday and then everybody's like i've got to watch them all by monday because otherwise i'm not going to be caught up with everybody else yeah he's killing them yeah absolutely because i watched a couple and i'm like well this is fun and i is fun and I'm choosing not to watch anymore and I'll watch some more later and it's not destroying my brain. It's a shame that it's not like event television in the way that the Marvel movies are.
Starting point is 01:23:33 I think it was initially. Yep. When these were starting, I couldn't watch these fast enough and it felt like an MCU movie was being released. But now it's just, I couldn't even, I can't bring myself to watch them. And the other thing is I am interested in each of the, like I want to go back and watch Punisher. I do want to finish Jessica Jones.
Starting point is 01:23:51 I want to see if Luke Cage has improved on the last season, which I thought was a bit flat. Iron Fist I might skip regardless. But yeah, I just think they should be more more people should enjoy them more right people should enjoy them more yeah i just think it's a bit of a shame but if we're talking netflix mason which i know you were yes uh i watched nanette oh which is uh australian comedian hannah gadsby stand-up special did you see that before i haven't seen it live no yeah right and i was going to because she had a reprise of it like live but then it was like and she's doing it on netflix and i'm like
Starting point is 01:24:24 well i'll just wait for that yeah but basically it's an australian comedian uh she talks about her experience actually i won't spoil specifics of it because it's kind of the point of the show it's it's not what you think it is and i think it's also important to watch even if you don't necessarily agree with a lot of the stuff in this which i'm sure a lot of people don't but i think it's 100 worth listening watching for a different perspective on things great and it is funny too yeah but i think it's one of those things where you kind of walk away it it stays with you right um and i'm not going to say why but i think it's just and this is on netflix worldwide netflix worldwide yeah i i'm kind of reluctant to spoil it yeah i think it's definitely worth bloody leave it at
Starting point is 01:25:03 that it's on netflix so everybody's got Netflix. They should. And if not, just ask me for my account and I'll give it to you. Nice. Yeah. You sprung for four accounts, did you? I don't know. I don't think I did, actually.
Starting point is 01:25:17 Oh, hello. You sprung for standard definition. Big time. Nice. What's next, Mason? Letters. Letters. Letters. We love you. Some letters. Oh's next, Mason? Letters. Letters, letters, we love you, some letters. Hang on, that's... Wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:25:30 Copyright Planet Broadcasting. Hey, this is Will and Charlie from the podcast Tofop on the Planet Broadcasting Network. Will, how would you describe our show to people who haven't heard it before? I would say our show is much like a modern-day version of Seinfeld in that it's a show about nothing, Charlie, and that some of the early episodes really are a bit dodgier than you remember. So if that sounds good to you,
Starting point is 01:25:53 you can find us on iTunes, Spotify and planetbroadcasting.com. The classic one was letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only A day Away I know they're here right now We're going to do letters It is letters time Yes If you do want to reach the show
Starting point is 01:26:11 Hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter We will find your tweet And we'll read it out Yes Maybe Yes I mean probably If it's a good one
Starting point is 01:26:18 Or if we just stumble across it actually It doesn't have to be good We just have to see it And also Mason Is checking out the gmail weekly planet pod at gmail.com and there's a hundred letters in there isn't there oh yeah there's more than a hundred okay you're gonna read any of them out today give me one minute are you reading an email or writing i was i was texting someone all right what's on what's what's
Starting point is 01:26:40 the hot goss there's no goss all right god i thought there was hot god all right here we go here we are i saw i saw one a good one earlier i saw the title one earlier pretty good okay let's see and it's it's it's a recurring theme okay which i enjoy here we go this is jh winstead got in trouble at work listening to the pod yeah enjoying these a lot uh he's a long time listener he works midnight to 6 am. delivering newspapers here in the beautiful mountains of North Carolina. Oh, a paper boy. That sounds like a good job. I would enjoy doing that.
Starting point is 01:27:09 Yeah, you love that kind of shit. I love late night. Yeah, you do. Nobody bothering me. And you could listen to a podcast or an audio book. That's what he does. He puts on us, or do go on, Steel Wars Filthy Casuals. Hey, fam.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Up on Spotify. He Bluetooths it to his car speaker. Very good. And he cranks it. Nice. So a few nights ago he pulls into a driveway, gets out of the car to put the paper on the porch. It's 2am
Starting point is 01:27:30 and he's away from the car when we start screaming out, Mad Ghost! Mad Ghost! The next night he has a complaint that they emailed in. It says he pulled into my yard at 2am with his radio blasting these guys hollering about something and woke me up. Keep up the good work, fellas.
Starting point is 01:27:46 We will. We hope we didn't get you in trouble again just then. I hope we did. I hope you hadn't learned your lesson and it's happening again. Do you ever get into your car and you've got headphones on and you just leave them on? No. Yeah? It's legal. Is it? Yes.
Starting point is 01:28:02 Me neither then. I'm fairly confident it's illegal. What if you've got a hands-free, you're talking on the microphone to your family? Wait, is it still wired headphones? Yeah. Do you have both of them in? No, one. I think that's still illegal. No, it's not illegal.
Starting point is 01:28:14 I think it is. Okay, maybe you're right. All right, okay. P.S., he listened to the episode of Do Go On that I was on about Mothman. Oh, yes. As a former stoner growing up in the middle of nowhere, I saw a lot of strange critters, and I can say with some certainty those kids who didn't want to get out of the car to investigate the lump were tripping balls so yep that makes sense to me yeah i've got stuff thank you jack great stuff i've
Starting point is 01:28:36 got a tweet here mason from ethan gregory i'm ready says what do you think about uh doing an episode on rumors about comic book movies that never came true, i.e. Coulson becoming The Vision, Bieber being Robin in BVS, Lex Luthor having a sleeve tattoo of Metropolis. I feel like that could still be true. Yeah, that would be so good. I think that would be interesting to go through kind of some Or it's a butt tattoo.
Starting point is 01:28:57 Metro, Polis. Left and right. Not following. What about the middle? You forgot... Oh, maybe it's Metro O Polis. Not following. What about the middle? You forgot... Oh, that's where the... Oh, maybe... Okay, it's Metropolis. Very good. But that would be uneven. I wouldn't like that.
Starting point is 01:29:10 You wouldn't like it? No, it'd be... No. So we're just going to make it a sleeve tattoo? Yeah, I guess. I bet he's still got a sleeve tattoo. Of his butt. Yes.
Starting point is 01:29:16 And it says Metropolis. But then there's a picture of his butt. I gotcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think that would be good. I think maybe if there was a site that had like a list of those we could go through
Starting point is 01:29:26 would be great. Do you think it counts if it's rumours? Should it be rumours that maybe were never true or rumours that were true and then didn't pan out? Like Josh Brolin
Starting point is 01:29:36 went in for Batman but he didn't get it. I think we can do a combination. Let's do it all! Yes, let's do it all. We've got unlimited time. Can we do it next week? Who knows?
Starting point is 01:29:45 Also, people want another Versus episode, so do that soon as well. You know what? You know what would be great? If people could tweet at us maybe a new concept for Versus. I thought I liked it. I liked the last one we did.
Starting point is 01:29:56 What did we do last time? We did the what-if scenarios. I can't think of a good one, but it was Versus interspersed with... Oh, ultimatums? Ultimatums. Yeah, right, okay. Yeah, cool. Alright, we'll do one of those pretty soon. Pretty soon, yeah. It'll be very exciting. Let's do that. Got another one from
Starting point is 01:30:14 CHZ. I don't know how to say that. Chiz? Chiz. Anyway. Chiz. This is random, and I'm not sure if it's been asked. So random! I'm not sure if it's been asked, but do you think the Justice League has a better chance of stopping Thanos from achieving his plan? Well they've got Superman
Starting point is 01:30:30 so yes, because he can do all the things. He's stronger than all of them combined. But he's so smug. He's very smug. I would just love him to see him turned into nothingness. Do you think having the Justice League would be an advantage? Do you think against Thanos?
Starting point is 01:30:45 I mean, he can just belt the Hulk, you know, fairly easily. He's impervious to magic on the most part, you know. No, I think of the cinematic Justice League, the only person who has a chance against him is Superman. Yeah. But I don't like that. Yeah, right. They should either all have a pretty good chance
Starting point is 01:31:06 or nobody has a chance. I don't like the idea. Again, it's a flaw to that movie that they just bring in Superman and he'll fix everything. What's the point of the rest of them? The whole point of the Justice League is they're all on it because they're the best at something and even if one of them is taken out of commission,
Starting point is 01:31:24 even the most powerful one, they've all still got a at something. And even if one of them is taken out of commission, even the most powerful one, they've all still got a fighting chance. And the whole point of the Suicide Squad was to be able to take down Superman. Every single one of them. A crocodile man. A man with a rope. A woman with a baseball bat.
Starting point is 01:31:36 Yeah. The guy who's good with ropes. And he's a rapist, probably. Cut that out. I think that was the implication. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think the cinematic version would
Starting point is 01:31:47 I'm so glad he's dead yeah he should be dead I'm glad his head exploded but even if he he wasn't he still should be dead because he's useless yeah
Starting point is 01:31:54 this guy can climb anything right like a rock climber like Superman is he gonna oh is he gonna shoot a grappling hook at Superman well Superman can fly
Starting point is 01:32:03 into space and then you're all gonna end up in space and then you're all going to end up in space, and then you're going to die, in good riddance, quite frankly, for the reasons I've mentioned earlier. Yeah, no, I don't think... I like that...
Starting point is 01:32:12 I actually watched the finale of Justice League on YouTube the other day, that fight with Steppenwolf, and you look at that and Thanos. They're night and day. Yeah. And again, both of us enjoyed Justice League to an extent. We did not. I don't enjoy it on any level.
Starting point is 01:32:28 But they're not even close. And I don't like saying that because I like the DC characters, but yeah, that Thanos fight is really good. Yeah, for sure. Should we wrap it up there? Actually, I have one more letter. This is from Mario Bonny from Switzerland. Okay.
Starting point is 01:32:46 Great chocolate and cheese. Yeah, I know, right? So here's the question. How different do you think Hollywood would be in the MCU as opposed to our world? Would they still make superhero franchises, some of which succeed, most of which then stumble and fail? Or would it be seen as boring? Would there be a Tony Stark biopic one day? Would Christopher Nolan make an Attack of the Chitauris movie that is good?
Starting point is 01:33:09 Like Dunkirk. Yeah, right. Isn't there a Tony Stark biopic in like a poster in the background of a movie? There might be. That's a good question. There's a Moon Knight comic book. There is. In which one of Moon Knight's personas goes to Hollywood to create a Moon Knight comic book in which Moon Knight goes, in which one of Moon Knight's personas goes to Hollywood
Starting point is 01:33:27 to create a Moon Knight movie, I think. Right, okay. So I think it would be a weird mix. In Watchmen, the DC series, I don't have to explain what Watchmen is. No, please do. Did you read it? I've read it.
Starting point is 01:33:41 Oh, no, Doomsday Clock. We can't do Watchmen Watch again. We can't do Watchmen Watch. I'm catching up on stuff i'm gonna watch i'm gonna read oh you know what i read i read we're not in the segment anymore but i read the first four volumes of batman rebirth so the tom king run good it's really good okay i just burned through it i burned through like 600 pages you wouldn't know yeah i'm yeah all right what was i talking about oh Oh, yeah. Go on. Moon Knight, something, another thing.
Starting point is 01:34:06 What did you say? Tony Stark biopic. Tony Stark biopic. I've actually found it out. That's why I've got it right in front of me. Okay, right. Tony Stark is... So it's a real thing in continuity.
Starting point is 01:34:14 It's a poster in the background of Guardians 2 at a theater. Tony Stark is an R-rated biopic of Tony Stark starring Simon Wilson, played by Nathan Fillion. So Simon Wilson is Wonder Man. Correct. Yeah. So in the Marvel Wonder Man. Correct. Yeah. He was supposed to be in Guardians 2. So in the Marvel Universe, Simon Williams, Wonder Man,
Starting point is 01:34:32 is a superhero and an actor. So I guess he does like, I think he does superhero movies because he's got superpowers. And he can just be like, be a flying guy. And he's like, well, I can fly. So yeah. That's what I was going to say. So in the Watchmen universe, because superheroes exist, people are so bored by them yeah that they it's pirate it's
Starting point is 01:34:49 pirate comics yeah which it's that's one of the elements that has never really flown with me because i'm like it's got a big squid in it that does have a big squid that's true with you yeah that's fine i love big squids yeah um but i mean this if, people do dress as superheroes in the real world, but I still find superhero comics interesting. Yeah. I'd be more intrigued. I'd be like, what are their lives like? Do some comics about it.
Starting point is 01:35:12 Absolutely. This is the synopsis of Tony Stark. It's basically Steve Jobs, Danny Boyle, Steve Jobs, the same poster, which is a good movie. Danny Boyle's a good director, isn't he? He's good. At some point on Earth, a biopic based on the life of Tony Stark was written by David Frank and directed by Ian McFadden.
Starting point is 01:35:28 It starred Simon Williams as Tony Stark alongside Mary Livanos, I don't know who that is, Simon Becker and Dexter Mills, who might be also comic book characters that I'm not familiar with. Yes, correct. Yeah, Ian McFadden is a director and he directed The Comedy Company, The Genie from Down Under, The Wedge, Newlyweds and Cluedo. Wait, who is this guy, sorry? The director of this fake Tony Stark movie.
Starting point is 01:35:51 So he directed... I think that's a coincidence. Maybe. They could not have gone... You know, we'll get the director of 1980s Australian sketch... Racist sketch comedy... Sketch comedy show, The Comedy Company. He did The Doctor... It's a coincidence.
Starting point is 01:36:06 What's the guy's name again? Ian McFadden. I think it's a coincidence. I think there's heaps of Ian McFadden's. Oh, I know who Ian McFadden is. Yeah, he did the Australian TV series Prisoner. Yeah, that's a different Ian McFadden. One of McFadden's most memorable characters on the show,
Starting point is 01:36:21 The Comedy Company, was David Ratten-Rabbitborough. If David Attenborough, I remember. characters on the show uh what the comedy company was david ratten rabbit borough if david attenborough i remember an impersonation of a british yeah i remember david i don't remember any of the comedy company except for the races what about carly mole yeah i remember okay con the fruiterer yeah that the racism i remember the race uncle arthur i remember the racism okay Uncle Arthur. I remember the racism. Okay, cool. Carry on then. So how do you think it would be different, the MCU Hollywood? I think it would probably be more a glamorized version of what there is, which is weird because it's still a hyper glamorized universe.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Yeah, right. But it's also a universe where Star Wars exists and Pulp Fiction exists. Yes. And Chinese food exists. It's all on the little tie fence. ACDC exists. ACDC exists. So I don't know maybe
Starting point is 01:37:05 it wouldn't be the bush kangaroo exists yeah maybe it wouldn't be that different why would you don't need to check out skippy the bush kangaroo it's on his list why anyway it's a local reference they could have put prisoner on there they could have put the comedy company on but they couldn't but that's the thing like it doesn't matter. Captain America's not going to watch Skippy the Bush Kangaroo. No, absolutely not. I've never seen it. No. And I'm fine.
Starting point is 01:37:30 I've never been beat up for it. Correct. So that's good. You've been threatened with violence for it. Yeah, it's not required viewing. Yeah. If anything, watch the one where the dingo eats the baby or whatever. Watch that movie.
Starting point is 01:37:39 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man, what a world. Got anything else? That's about it i think yeah yeah uh i don't know i kind of feel like it'll be you know how in like 30 rock yeah it's a funny sitcom but the show within a show is clearly really bad yeah i kind of feel like all the movies in the marvel universe would be like that yeah like they'd look like they could be, yeah. You know how in Ragnarok there's a really cheap theater performance of the Adventures of Thor?
Starting point is 01:38:09 I feel like MCU Hollywood would have really cheap and often libelous versions of the... They'd be like, here's the movie about the Chitauri invasion. Yeah, right. And it'd be like a really sleazy version of tony stark and like a really like all their most stereotypical aspects i think it'd be like i think it'd be like the movies we see but more one-dimensional okay sure yeah okay so yeah it's that fake movie within within a movie nonsense yes kind of thing okay i get you you get it the other movies that uh simon williams have done in this universe is tony stark he did archon haxon 2
Starting point is 01:38:45 oh rebecca dead before arrival and toxic janitor 2 love it so i assume is a nod to the toxic yeah yeah whatever whatever that is well that makes sense because james gunn yeah that's so good i like that a lot all right before we wrap up the show mason i just want to uh we're thinking of doing a separate um we've talked about this an an ad-free feed, but not in addition to that. Also, we're not sure how they're running the ads at the start and the end of the show, how we feel about that just as of yet. We're going to see how much money we get at the end of the month. And if it's a million dollars.
Starting point is 01:39:16 They're here forever, baby. No, we'll just stop making this. Oh, okay. That's a really good point, actually, because then we could just split a million dollars. Yeah. But regardless. We're hoping that we get enough to cover the server costs and the hosting costs and stuff like that. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:39:28 And because we also pay for the hosting on, I think, all of the other Planet Broadcasting... Yeah, so if it covers that, that would be great. But basically, that... So we're thinking of doing an ad-free fee, but also we're thinking of doing like a bonus thing... Yeah. For people also who might want to also chip in for for a bit every month kind of like patreon we don't know whether they're going to do a patreon or build a separate platform or whatever but if we would do that what do people want we're thinking of maybe doing an extended mailbag
Starting point is 01:39:54 yeah we clear out that mailbag every week or every month yeah or it could be i don't know it's up to you what do you what would it could be a different thing every week like we were talking about and i said maybe we could just talk about a different movie that's unrelated to we could answer to be like i will talk about shawshank this week we could uh we could do uh every you know one one week we could do a quiz and we could figure out determine which sex in the city character we are exactly yeah so maybe we could even be i'm charlotte obviously obviously yeah because you're boring but i think i'm also a from yes from uh entourage yeah you i know you're you're donatello you're all the boring ones all right thank you but uh yeah and it maybe it could be a different thing every week where take the
Starting point is 01:40:36 marvel quiz or whatever and you know we just do the thing that we think would be fun that week but if you've got suggestions uh and if you'd be keen on that just a little bit of of bonus content all this would stay the same none of this would change but yeah if you're interested that's the show though mason take us home all right if you want a country road to the place west virginia mountain mama take me home country roads yeah podcast kingsman too uh not a good Mountain Mama, Take Me Home, Country Roads. Yeah. Kingsman 2. Not a good movie. And also a bunch of other movies last year. Alien and also the heist one with Kylo Ren and James Bond. Oh, Logan Lucky.
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Starting point is 01:42:05 Let's see. Also, we're doing extra episodes for other shows on the network every Thursday. People have been really responding well to that, which has been great. Very cool. I think we're doing TOEFOP this week, I believe. Love those guys. So keep going. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:42:20 Speaking of Bandcamp, we have the Jurassic World commentary on Bandcamp currently. That was a good one. That was, I think, one of our weirdest. Let's see. What else? We do Caravan of Garbage every week. We do do Caravan of Garbage every week. We've got a bad one coming up this week, don't we?
Starting point is 01:42:36 An Ant-Man one. Oh, that's so bad. Wait, which one? Oh, the one from the 60s? Yeah. That's so bad. Don't spoil it, Mason. It's very bad.
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Starting point is 01:43:57 Crushing it, yeah. This is most of the stuff. And that's most of the stuff. We talked other stuff? Yeah, just other things. Other things. There's other things. It's all on planetbroadcasting.com. And that's most of the stuff. What's up? We talked other stuff? Yeah, just other things. Other things. There's other things. It's all on planetbroadcaster.com.
Starting point is 01:44:07 It is. Absolutely, it is. And next week, we'll do another episode. We can't do Ant-Man, but we will be seeing it this week. Nice. What can we do next week? I don't know. Something else.
Starting point is 01:44:17 We could just talk about the first Ant-Man again. I don't want to do that. We should do a commentary for that, actually. Okay, cool. I think I've only seen it once. It's good. It's okay. It's improved. Like a fine wine fine wine okay let's goodbye everyone grabbed that gem you guys we will see you
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