The Weekly Planet - 261 Fantastic Beasts They Did Another One
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Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet, The Weekly Planet always is oh what it's always a mixed emotion when you show up it's like that goodwill hunting
thing you know when you show up on i wish you'd be somewhere else or whatever go work for the
government the goodwill hunting thing and you remember that movie do you want me to go work
for the government do you want to work for the government really you don't have to then you can
do this all right all right good uh but i say bittersweet because Stanley passed away at the age 95. He did. And I think there is an element of sweetness to it
because of the achievements in his life
and the things that he helped create, how far they have come.
And he is also a man who lived to see, again,
Stanley, not a perfect man by any stretch of the imagination,
but he lived to see the colourful creations
that he helped bring to life in the 60s to become, you know,
multi-hundred-million-dollar movies and just spectacular recreations
of his ideas from back in the day.
Exactly.
And he also was creating these characters at a time when he was kind
of embarrassed to be kind of working as a comic book creator and, but, you know,
not knowing the kind of impact it would have on the modern day.
Yeah. Right.
And even things like, you know,
his role with creating the X-Men and Black Panther,
these were the types of characters that represented marginalized groups that he
was kind of bringing into the mainstream.
And he was also kind of,
he always kind of had that element of his work
that he brought into it.
So you're kind of learning about things and tolerance, et cetera.
That's true, yeah.
You know, he did it in a way that, you know,
you'd engage with people, the youth or whoever was reading comic books.
And again, you know, over the years, you know,
the masthead of a lot of marvel comic book characters back in the
day would say created by stanley written by stanley and as we know you know a lot of the
writing was done by other people that he had a lot of collaborators we know that but he was also
he was the greatest hype man for comic books yes you know there were some great mall rats
exactly that's right he He was the greatest.
There were some great stories created by Marvel in that era, but I think without him they may never have arisen to the heights that they did.
Even in the heyday in the 60s,
it might have been just another bunch of superhero comics
that had sort of slipped under the radar, just another bunch of superhero comics that had gone
that sort of slipped under the radar yeah there's a lot of stuff did that back then but he was this
guy getting out there and going you know hey they're true believers this this is the stuff
and engaging with fans because he was doing this consistently through the ups and downs of the
comic book industry and marvel in general what i always liked about the characters that he worked
on you know you look at someone like spider-man Spider-Man, it's real world problems on top of other things.
And I think bringing that aspect to comic books, and I'm sure it probably existed before then, but a lot of the Marvel characters that he was involved with the creation of, they took those real world problems in real world locations.
Yeah, for sure.
Which kind of separated them from the other comic books i think i really absolutely agree in the sense that you know a lot of dc characters and a lot of characters
to that point your hero was more often than not a bored millionaire playboy yeah who just wanted
to put on a mask and fight crime because he had nothing else to do yeah but a lot of the what
what brought what brought marvel comics to the mainstream and to the great popularity was that, you know,
the Fantastic Four were a group of heroes with superpowers,
but they were also a family and they loved each other,
but they didn't always get along.
Like a family.
Like a family, and people related to that.
And Spider-Man was a teen character who was not the sidekick.
Yes.
Which I think was very close to being a first, if not the first.
He was a teen character that people could if not the first he was a teen
character that people could relate to and he was the man yeah the main character and he's you know
he's bullied and he's dealing with his own problems and he's paying rent and yeah and all those other
kinds of things yeah and dr strange was always being chased around by demons yeah that's that's
something we can all exactly so look i mean we going to do a whole episode on Stanley and...
With the death of Stanley, I feel that's the death of the three kings of comic books.
Stanley, Jack Kirby, who died many years ago, and Steve Ditko, who died just earlier this year.
So I think we should probably do an episode on those guys.
But we kind of didn't want to shoehorn it into Fantastic Beasts week.
Yeah, right.
You know, so in a few weeks or a month when we've got an episode
where there isn't a major release, we want to do it properly,
basically not be like, here's four minutes about Stan Lee.
Yeah.
And the others, obviously.
Yeah, right.
And that's the thing, because when I checked Twitter very early that morning
and discovered he passed away, and I'm like, you know, it's sad, obviously, but he had a good run and so on and so forth.
But then as the day progressed, I'm like, no, I'm really sad about this.
Because he had a hand in putting together my entire childhood, basically.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, no good.
I just want to quickly also quick shout out to Will Anderson from Tofop.
He invited me on the Triple M Breakfast Show want to quickly also quick shout out to Will Anderson who you know from Tofop.
He invited me on the Triple M Breakfast Show just to quickly talk about it.
My phone actually went off at the very start.
My alarm went off on the radio.
But it was great to reach an audience that might not necessarily know about the things that he's done.
But it was also really hard to be like,
you've got two minutes to condense Tan Lee's life.
So anyway, I appreciate that opportunity to talk about him.
Did you talk to Eddie McGuire?
I did talk to Eddie McGuire, yeah.
Terrific.
Wow.
This is just a little quote.
I think a lot of stuff was passed around about Stanley on Twitter.
It has been passed around this week.
There was one about acceptance and equality and that sort of stuff.
I love that one, yeah.
This is from a Wired interview.
I'm not going to retire.
Most people retire so they can go do what they want.
I'm already doing what I want.
I like to write.
I like to work with creative people.
If I retired, I'd be giving up my fun.
That's absolutely fair enough.
Yeah.
What a bloody way to look at things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Living the bloody dream, mate.
You did.
And yeah, like you said, yeah, 95 is a great endings, but it's still, it's kind of the end. It's definitely, like you said yeah 95 is a great endings but it's still a it's kind of
the end it's definitely like you said the big three it's definitely the end of an era of like
those those formative years of marvel and just comic books in general but yeah well at least we
can do this podcast still yep well that's the thing like that like we wouldn't be doing this
no absolutely not if he didn't exist right yeah definitely not yeah so there you bloody
go again the second most important thing in the world yep that's right we wouldn't be doing it
well i just i'm trying to think of other people in his particular profession but like the other
one would probably be george lucas yeah right and who i don't even know who the other like who's who
else is even in this league you know what i mean mean? Yeah. So, I mean, I guess it depends on how the Avatar films come out.
I was just going to say James Cameron, yes.
He nearly did a Spider-Man.
That's true.
Yeah.
Okay, Mason, there's no good way to do this segue,
except Travis Knight looks like he might be directing Guardians 3.
That is the rumor.
So Travis Knight is the director of?
Bumblebee.
Okay.
And Kubo and the Two Strings.
There we go.
Which I've watched 10 minutes of and mean and go back.
And it was really great from what I saw.
What a ringing endorsement of the first 10 minutes.
Well, it was one of those things where I was kind of doing something else
and I was like, I need to sit down and watch this.
This is great.
So I just need to go back and watch this properly.
So if this is true, that's a good...
I think that's a really good get.
Yeah, right.
Okay.
So having not seen even 10 minutes of Kubo and the Two Strings,
is it animated?
Stop motion, it's like an old fable about a warrior chimpanzee
or baboon or something.
I'm not even going to get into it because I don't know enough about it.
I think the real yardstick will be
how does Bumblebee,
how's that going to turn out?
Because there's a jump between
an indie stop motion and a huge, huge...
Definitely.
I mean, there's people that have done it,
like Tim Burton's done animation
and then live action.
Speaking of Tim Burton,
have you got some...
Do I?
Yeah, Dumbo.
Oh yeah, we can do that.
Brad Bird, I was going to say, was another one. Okay, let? Yeah, Dumbo. Oh, yeah, we can do that. All right.
Brad Bird, I was going to say, was another one.
Okay, let's talk about Dumbo.
There was another Dumbo trailer.
I don't like it.
I don't like Dumbo and I don't like this.
What do you think?
Well, I think maybe I've mentioned this on the show,
but I've certainly mentioned it to you.
Dumbo was the last Disney animated... Of the Disney classics.
That's the last one I saw.
Yeah. Where I'm like,
it's just orphaned animals and sadness.
And I don't want to see any of these anymore.
And he trips out and they take his mother away.
Yeah, right.
It's no good.
So, I mean, it looked interesting, but not.
I don't.
I don't.
I mean, I like the cast.
Was Colin Farrell missing an arm the entire trailer
or just towards the end?
I didn't notice that at all.
He's missing an arm.
Did an elephant stomp it off?
That's the question, isn't it?
He's probably a war veteran, I'd imagine.
Yeah.
Yeah, because that's not a very long movie
and there's nobody really on Dumbo's side.
So, I mean, there's some birds that make him jump out of a tree.
Yeah, but in this it seems like...
But again, the last time I saw the original Dumbo,
I was five or six or something.
I never liked it.
No, see, that's what I'm saying.
So maybe this is a step up, but it seems to me at least the circus family
are on his side.
Are they on his side in the original?
I don't think they were.
I don't think there was.
It was just a really mean circus dude,
and there were some crows that made him jump out of a tree.
Oh, right.
Yeah, because they gave him a magic feather, and they're like're like you can probably fly i think they were trying to kill him
from memory yeah also what are the chances that he could fly really slim right correct like a
billion to one does not even all right but does he fly in the circus in the original he does
eventually because he thinks he needs the magic feather to fly. But he can just fly. But he can just fly. Yeah, right, okay.
Yeah.
But no, he can just... This is a real education in number.
Imagine being an elephant with ears slightly bigger than a regular elephant
and then everybody making fun of you.
I cannot imagine it.
But that's what a lot of media was about, you know, back in the day.
It was just make fun of the freak.
Yeah.
Until they become useful.
Yeah, until they can fly.
Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
Correct.
I'm surprised they haven't remade that, actually,
that stop motion, that Rudolph short,
because they just did the Grinch again as well.
That's true.
Yeah, which I will not see.
You refuse?
I don't care about the Grinch.
I didn't see the last one.
Is it...
It's not the voice of...
Benedict Cumberbatch is the Grinch.
Oh, right, okay.
That doesn't draw you in?
I think he could have just done another live action
and he would have been a good The Grinch.
Hang him green, he's The Grinch.
Yeah, that's actually really true.
Because in, you know, for the Hobbit,
as the voice of Smaug...
Oh, he did all that.
He did all the motion capture and flapping about.
It's like a Dreamworks whatever.
I don't know if it's DreamWorks.
You don't think they mo-capped him
in some sort of weird Santa suit?
No, I don't think so.
No.
Do you see the Daredevil?
They pitched Daredevil season four?
Who pitched?
Whoever's show running it.
I can't remember who.
No, I didn't see that.
That was a bit of bloody recent news, Mason.
Wow.
That sounds like a panic move.
Showrunner Eric Olsen.
It's going to be...
Do you like those hallway fights?
You don't?
Okay, well, he's not going to be in any hallways.
He's going to be living on a farm with a lot of open space.
Yeah, so...
He could have his eyesight back.
Do you like that?
Is that what you want?
Just to go over the eyes?
I don't know.
We'll give him big ears, he could fly.
That's great.
Yeah.
He could be blue.
Does he have to be red?
I don't know.
So, do you watch, actually,
just a bit of a spoiler for the last season,
does he get his red suit back at the end?
No.
Oh.
Yeah, that's true.
So they're going away from the things that people like.
That's interesting. Yeah. I mean,, that's true. So they're going away from the things that people like. That's interesting.
Yeah.
I mean, that character is compelling enough where I...
I agree.
I think the suit is largely irrelevant.
And I think a lot of people really love the black.
Well, it's an easy cosplay.
It really is.
I think that's why we see a lot of it.
Yeah, for sure.
I could go to my cupboard and get out something that looks like that.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
Okay, so they're
still going with these i guess to some extent uh there's also a teaser for maybe the punish is
going to be happening again okay yeah i think maybe we'll get if we get i still think they're
going to wrap these up maybe we'll get one more year of a couple of these and then that's it yeah
well i mean nothing can last forever surely nothing can last forever mason we know that
more than anybody but maybe not more than anybody we aware of that that we
feel like we're slightly immortal because we're kind of in our mid-30s and you know you feel like
you're just going to keep going forever do you yeah in your mid-30s no as opposed to your teens
you feel immortal in your teens i feel very mortal oh good yeah yeah no definitely more on that side
of things but let's get into some bloody tv news mason because things were in the tv news let's
keep getting into TV news.
Keep getting into TV news.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has been renewed for Season 7.
Is Season 6 out yet?
No.
There we go.
Spoiler alert for the last season,
for what happens at the end, I'm going to tell you.
Because you want to watch it all the time.
I want to watch it.
Okay, I won't tell you.
Let's just say some major characters may or may not be appearing again,
or maybe they will, because who knows?
So there's a question about how that's going to factor into these last two seasons uh
this is another thing where i'm kind of like i'm a bit surprised they're still doing this but i
guess i think it does rate well because i think we talk about every now and then we're kind of like
yeah i don't know who knows but people seem to really enjoy the show more and more every week. It's the gold standard for superhero TV, I think.
Is it?
I like the Ghost Rider episodes I watched.
Gold standard, Mason?
Yes.
More than the good Netflix stuff?
Oh.
Yes, because a lot of the Netflix-
More than Titans?
I see a lot of people liking Titans.
We don't have it here yet.
But a lot of people like this has been...
A lot of people like this is really good.
We are massively surprised at how good this is.
Okay.
I think we're going to get an even more different standard next year with Watchmen.
What about Legion?
First season of Legion.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's kind of different though.
All these things you say are correct.
It's more that i didn't
i i guess i guess it's the what i meant is it's the gold standard for i'm reaching here it's the
gold standard for like cbs like it's network tv it's not like legion is like prestige and it could
if you if you didn't know it was based on a marvel property i think you might just like it's a guy
going mad what's going on we don't
know kind of thing you could say it's anything and dead and like caught at that it's a guy who's
going mad what's going on what's going on there and you know daredevil and a lot of a lot of the
netflix stuff again it's barely tied into anything yeah related with with agents of shield at least
they're you know they're like we live in the marvel universe yeah that's what they say at
the start and end of every episode.
We live in this universe.
We live in this universe.
Okay.
Fair enough.
More news, Mason?
Please.
John Cryer has been cast as Lex Luthor in CW's Supergirl.
After his stunning performance.
As Lenny Luthor in Superman 4.
The first movie I ever saw in the cinema.
Wow.
I love that movie, even though objectively terrible.
Yeah.
I like this cast.
Me too.
There's nothing...
I think he could do it.
Yeah, I mean...
Well, he's doing it.
He certainly is doing it.
And, you know, he's...
I don't know if you've seen him lately,
but he does have a shaved head.
Yeah.
It's a good shaved head.
He had a lot of that kind of spray-on hair thing going on for...
I remember him saying in an interview.
Oh, for Two and a Half Men.
Yeah. Right. Yeah. But no, I remember him saying in an interview. Oh, for Two and a Half Men. Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
But no, I think he could do it.
And I think the backlash is almost entirely Two and a Half Men based.
Definitely.
It's like, who was at this for, you know.
But I mean, that also, if you've been on a network sitcom for however many years, 10 years or however long that was on, he doesn't have to do anything.
No, exactly.
I feel like they must have pitched him a solid thing and been like...
And he must have a good idea of what he wants to do.
He might be like, this is a good character.
This is a good character.
It's strongly written or what have you.
Because otherwise they'd be like, you want to do this?
And be like, no, I have $100 million.
I was called a dumbass on Two and a Half Men every week for 10 years.
I was called a loser. And I banked those checks. A boy made a Half Men every week for 10 years. I was called a loser, but no, I banked those checks.
A boy made fun of me every day.
Every day.
Every day.
Yeah, I think even outside of the Superman 4 thing,
because that has no bearing on this, really, does it?
No, of course not.
Like, his role in that doesn't reflect on this in any way.
There's only that tenuous connection.
Yeah.
But I think it's a good choice. and i think maybe i would feel differently about it if eisenberg wasn't the last
right uh uh if it was like um if it was brian krebs yeah someone like that yeah you'd be like
well nobody can compare to that but we didn't get that yeah so no i think this is i think this could
be something that i'm look i'm probably not going to watch it yeah as i don't any of these shows
anymore but i like it.
I think it's good.
Same.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Remember when you were really sad when Chris Pratt's Cowboy Ninja Viking
wasn't happening?
Yes.
And you wished you'd taken another role where he could play multiple characters.
Where's this going?
It's not.
I'm just remembering when you were sad about this thing.
Just heaping some sadness on me.
No, that was a misdirect, Mason, much like the show and movie The Saint.
I'm sorry, what?
Which Chris Pratt will be taking the role of
in a reboot of The Saint.
Wow.
Yeah.
Okay.
Why is this happening?
That's wild, isn't it?
Well, there was an attempt to do a The Saint TV series.
It's on Netflix, isn't it?
Yeah, they attempted to do a TV series
with a guy whose name I can't remember and Eliza Dushku.
She also played multiple people in Dollhouse.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
Maybe that's what she's doing now.
Just multiple people stuff.
What do you mean?
You know, it's shows where you can be multiple people.
I guess.
That's what she's doing.
Okay, cool.
Anyway.
What were you saying?
I was saying she's...
Because I was saying something, but mine wasn't anything.
So I need you to say something.
Well, I was just going to say, was that her role in The Saint?
I don't know if it was.
I haven't seen it.
No, it wasn't.
And I never will.
She's just a person in the movie.
Oh, interesting.
Anyway, so the pilot didn't get picked up.
So they put it on Netflix.
It was like a standalone movie, of which I've watched 10 minutes and it seemed fine uh i remember you saying it was really terrible to me maybe you've
said it on this show maybe it was personal life you rang me in a well it's been a while since i
maybe i said initially it was terrible yeah i can't remember it was fine nothing jumped out it
it had that plasticky feel of a fairly low budget yeah series. And I'm like, the main guy's kind of charming, but who knows?
Yeah.
But anyway, another attempt.
Okay, cool.
I'd like to see another Saint.
Sure.
I think that's an enjoyable character.
Did you like the Val Kilmer one?
No.
He does a good Australian accent in that, actually.
Okay.
From memory, yeah.
All right.
Yeah, I don't know.
I feel like it's one of those things where there's an executive
who grew up with this, who thinks that people give a shit about the saint.
But, you know, Chris Pratt, that's not terrible casting.
He gets bums in seats, doesn't he?
Sure does.
Yeah, so.
And bums in heat.
I don't know what that means.
You mean as in homeless people or people's bottoms?
Yeah, that's what I mean.
The second one.
Yes.
Great.
Or the first one. They both have a certain appeal. You can The second one. Great. Or the first one.
They both have a certain appeal.
I think they probably do both.
Yeah.
He's one of those two-tier bum guys.
You know what I mean?
Exactly.
He can cover all quadrants.
For sure.
Not quadrants, because that's four.
Quadrants.
Yes.
That's two.
Correct, yes.
Bad Boys 3 has a title.
It's Bad Boys for Lift 3 lift three yeah that's one of
the worst i love it i mean it's ironic right they do it ironically yeah no they nothing about those
movies is ironic isn't it no so none of those are a joke i mean there's jokes in it but is the
serious stuff not a joke i'm this is a serious question i mean said michael bay no the serious
stuff is not a joke in those movies.
Yeah, I'm afraid so. I've been watching those
wrong, or not at all. I don't know.
Okay, anyway, I think that's great for this
movie that I'm not looking forward to.
Why not? Yeah, does that mean that's
coming back, the name of the
number in the title? Did it ever really go away?
I think so. The last one was
Fate of the Furious, but there was no 8. Yeah.
But I think people make the joke about it. Yeah. but i feel like it's not something you really see that
much yeah you know this is not ironic no it got out of hand with cradle to grave yeah which i
think wasn't a sequel uh-huh was it no it was not a sequel no that's they were probably hoping for
a cradle to the grave too so So there's no cradle one grave.
No.
That's a shame.
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And JPEGs?
And JPEGs.
But gifs.
Dot mob?
Maybe.
Alright.
MP2s?
Maybe.
Not these days. Not these days.
That was a trick.
Sorry.
I'm an idiot.
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Yes. I was going to say, does
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Stan Lee himself is there, yeah.
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I know, right?
Yeah.
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Exactly.
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Yes.
That's not true.
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No.
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Yep
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Yeah, let's do it.
Man, this news is all over the place
because we're back in TV.
We're back in the world of TV.
Game of Thrones will be back in April
and apparently each episode is going to be
over 60 minutes long, which we're
both looking forward to because we are
GTO bros, both of us.
GTO bros.
Game of Thrones bros. GOT bros.
What did I say? GTO bros. What did you say?
GOT bros. So you said, yep.
So it's that one. Correct. It's so hot.
I should mention that and I'm not dressed appropriately for this
you are
you're wearing a summery shirt
and shorts
I'm wearing a jazzy shirt
yeah
what do you think of that
we've had no G.T.O. bros this year
no that's true
look I'm happy
again I don't like the Game of Thrones universe
I think it's too mean
yep
but I'm happy that we're at the pointy end
most of the innocent
people are already dead yep so it doesn't there's not there's there's few to still be killed yep
so i'm just i just want to see some relentless battle and some dragons fighting some other
dragons well i think you'll be some people getting their heads kicked off who knows who does know
speaking of gto bros though mason yes uh ped uh pedro pascal from gto bros he was the the viper GTO Bros though, Mason. Yes. Pedro Pascal from GTO Bros.
He was the Viper, if you recall from that TV series.
Spoiler alert, it was like five years ago.
He got his head crushed by a man with his bare hands,
but he's going to be the Mandalorian.
He's going to be the Mandalorian himself.
I feel like if he had a helmet like in The Mandalorian,
he wouldn't have had his head crushed so horribly
and his eyes dug out of his head.
I feel if you're strong enough to crush a man's head,
you're strong enough to crush a man's head with a helmet in it.
A Mandalorian though?
Oh, if he had like a futuristic space helmet
with a force field in it or something.
Yeah.
Yeah, that would probably have saved him.
Yeah.
I mean, he probably could have just taken it off him. Yeah. Yeah, that would probably have saved him. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, he probably could have just taken it off him.
And then crushed his hand.
And then crushed.
That is still, that's burnt into my brain.
Yeah.
Like, that's really upsetting.
And every time I see that guy, that's all I see.
Uh-oh.
So, at least he'll be under the mask for a lot of it, I guess.
Maybe there'll be some like
if you're if you remember star trek 2 yeah the rumor was before that movie came out that spock
was gonna die he's gonna get his head crushed and so at the start of the movie there's a scene where
spock dies and then it's revealed that it was like a battle simulation right and they made a
joke about it and so when he actually does die,
people are like, sucked in.
Gotcha.
The rumor was true.
It's like when they said it wasn't Khan,
but then it was.
Then it was Khan.
They did it twice.
So what, maybe there should be a scene
at the start of the opening sequence of The Mandalorian
is just a man getting his head crushed,
his eyes get squeezed out.
And then you just see Pedro Pascal walk out
and be like, I'm glad I'm not that guy.
And I never will be.
Or was.
Yes.
Because I'm a different character.
Different character.
Anyway, he's a good actor and I think it's good casting.
Gina Carano is also in the cast.
You may know her from Deadpool and Punching People.
Yeah.
Oh, that's right.
She's one of the villains in the first Deadpool.
She's also in Haywire, which is a movie with Channing Tatum.
She was re-dubbed in that.
All right.
But I don't think
she's there for doing
soliloquies.
She's there for punching.
There for punching.
So yeah,
you know,
like who's a silent character
in Star Wars?
R2-D2.
She's doing an R2-D2 role.
R2-D2, yeah, for sure.
That makes sense to me.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Hey, do you think
they're going to CGI
a bunch of droids in this?
You know, like a K2SO where it's not a dude in a suit it's like a because that's expensive but you know well
i mean we don't money could be no object oh that's right it is disney yeah they might be like a
billion dollars an episode i think it's 10 10 billion dollars an episode 10 billion that's
10 million yeah so there you bloody go wow this is This is exciting news. We've got some good Jeff Lemire news.
We do.
This is a bunch actually.
Yeah.
First one is Black Hammer is getting adapted for TV and film.
Yeah.
That's a great series.
Yes.
And I'm glad.
That's an interesting, it always interests me when they attempt to adapt something that is,
I feel Black Hammer is so much rooted in comic books.
It's in the medium of that because it's every issue is like a love letter to a certain already existing comic book character.
And to just put that on TV and be like, this guy's like the Martian Manhunter.
You know him, right?
I guess some people don't.
He's in Supergirl.
Yeah, I don't think it matters whether you know these characters.
I guess that's true. I love the Dr. Star. Did you read the Dr. Star spin-off? I haven't got up to it yet. these characters. I guess that's true.
I love the Dr. Star.
Did you read the Dr. Star spin-off?
I haven't got up to it yet.
It's really good.
I think that's my favorite one.
And I also really like the Sherlock Frankenstein spin-off as well.
Yeah, that one's good, yeah.
All of this is good.
It's all good.
It is.
So every series and every spin-off,
I normally don't care about spin-offs of whatever
and I get lost about who's who,
but this universe I really like and I read it all.
I think it's Jeff Lemire's best work.
Oh, really?
Wow.
Okay.
But there's also more Jeff Lemire news, right?
There's more Jeff Lemire because they're also doing Sweet Tooth,
which I've read in entirety.
I think this could be good, The Walking Dead.
Right.
There you go.
Have you read Sweet Tooth?
Yes.
Yeah.
It's really good.
And I feel like this would be good The Walking Dead.
That's probably how they pitched it to the TV.
That's in The Walking Dead, except people like it.
So it'll rate and people will like it.
Okay.
So for those who don't know Sweet Tooth,
it's a boy who's got deer antlers and he's living in the woods,
but there's a bunch of other weird shit going on.
It's not really supernatural. It's more... It's magical. It's a bit magical other weird shit going on it's not really supernatural
it's more
it's magical
it's a bit of magical
but it's a lot of
it's science based
magical realism
yeah
and it's the end of the world
and there's a virus
and whatever
and it's
it's finished also
you can actually finish
you can
the whole run is done
and I would highly recommend
Sweet Tooth
the TV series
so wait for that
on whatever network
it's on
maybe Hulu?
I don't know.
Maybe Freeform.
Whatever Freeform is.
What is Freeform?
I don't know.
But get it.
Last one we're going to talk about
because there were two
Toy Story teasers this week.
It's true.
One's not enough, is it Mason?
One's never enough.
As someone who may or may not
have seen the Toy Story films.
Yes.
Have you?
Yes.
All of them?
Yes.
Do you like them?
Yeah, but not enough to watch them again.
Fair enough.
Like, they're great technical...
Well, we're doing an episode on them probably, Mason, so...
Oh, fine!
All right.
Look, I think they're great technical achievements, and, you know, they blew people's minds when
they came out because they're like...
Technically?
I don't think it's just the technical thing.
I mean, Ants was technically good.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
But I think...
Imagine if Woody Allen was an ant. But I mean... Fuck off. Yeah. technical thing i mean ants was technically good uh-huh yeah but i think no imagine if woody allen
was an ant but i mean fuck off yeah but i i think no i think but you know giving humanity to a mr
potato head or a or a you know plastic dinosaur or something you know i think that's that's that's
where that exceeded succeeded rather where ants did not yeah right but i but i you know i don't i don't I'm not interested in that kind of story, just generally.
You don't like stories of growing up and you have to give away your toys.
No, I want to keep all my toys.
Your toys live forever.
Keep all my toys and they live forever.
The first tease for this introduces an idea of the universe
which people have pondered.
What is a toy?
Yeah, because in the track in the teaser
rather we have a plastic fork called forky with some pipe cleaners for arms yeah who's come to
life yeah yeah so i guess you can just frankenstein together uh pretty much anything yeah but i guess
it's probably there's rules like it has to be a kid or no maybe not because toys aren't made by
kids are they do you think that's part of the plot of this? Do you think? I think it's probably a minor player
Because I think it's a Bo Peep story
Because, you know, remember Woody's girlfriend Bo Peep?
Do you remember that?
She's not in the third one
And they kind of allude to what happened to her
So it might be about that
I don't know
But I like all of these movies
And I'm looking forward to this
And I think it'll be good
Unless they botch it You know what I mean? think it'll be good unless they botch it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
How could they botch it though?
Because they've done three and they've been really good.
Yes.
And so the odds are...
Statistically speaking.
Statistically they'll botch it, but I don't think they will.
Also, there's a lot of people who are involved in the first one are gone.
So I don't know whether that factors in, but sometimes I think that's also a good thing.
You know what's fascinating to me,
and I just thought as we saw the marquee of characters scroll by
from all the movies, I'm like,
isn't it amazing that nobody involved has been in any kind of scandal?
I guess just trying to think.
Well, one's dead.
Yeah.
Doesn't count as a scandal. No, people don't love... Well, one's dead. Yeah. Don't think.
Doesn't count as a scandal.
No.
People don't love.
Well, this is scandalous.
People don't love Tim Allen, but it's not really a scandal.
No, that's true, right?
Also, he was in jail.
He went to jail in the 80s.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, exactly.
It's not a scandal.
I mean, Tom Hanks, that would be shocking.
Wouldn't it, though?
If anything came up about him.
But yeah, I think you might be right.
No scandals.
Well, let's see.
Who voices Forky?
That's a good point. We'll look into it later. T. right. No scandals. Well, let's see. Who voices Forky? That's a good point.
We'll look into it later.
It's probably TJ Miller or something.
Yeah, probably right.
It's probably Charles Manson.
Did he die?
Is Charles Manson still alive?
I think he's dead.
Is he?
Maybe not.
Do you want me to check?
If you could check.
For purposes of this pop culture based podcast, could you please check if Charles Manson's
still alive?
Charles Manson?
Yeah, he died last year.
Okay, cool.
Cool, yeah.
Cool, man.
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All right, Mason.
What a week for a movie coming out.
Yep.
Agreed.
It's Fantastic Beasts.
They're not in the case.
They're just kind of shoehorned into the film, too.
Yep.
That's what we got.
The opening weekend, not great.
Oh.
63 million US opening compared to the last one, which got 74.
Okay.
You'd want it to be more than that.
The first one, so yeah, so the first one was 74 domestically in the US and this one did about, this one did 11 less.
So it's looking to do.
Okay.
We can talk about why that may be the case,
but we have to also talk about what you think the story was.
I'm just wondering which one we want to do first. Oh, I see do you want to do first i think i'll get the story out of the
way first because then you can settle in i can settle in exactly all right so it's a sequel to
the first fantastic beasts and where to find them they're in the case yep if you just don't open the
case things will be fine just put duct tape the case yeah be really just magic duct tape duct tape the case exactly twine a bit of twine exactly uh it's a sequel to that so um
so newt he's um he's sort of in this isn't he yep he's in he's in england he's not allowed to go out of England. Yep. What is the story of this film?
Good question.
I know I asked you.
But I'm genuinely...
All right, hang on.
Okay, Grindelwald is out?
I feel like...
Or he gets out?
No, that's true.
I like that opening sequence.
Yeah, I didn't mind it.
Grindelwald, who was revealed to be Colin Farrell... Well, Colin Farrell was revealed to. Grindelwald, who was revealed to be Colin Farrell,
well, Colin Farrell was revealed to be Grindelwald,
who was revealed to be Johnny Depp in the last one.
What a twist.
What a twist.
He's been in jail in America.
Yeah.
Wait, where have they been?
The last one was set in America, right?
Yeah, a year before.
So he's in America and they're like,
okay, but now it's time to transport him back
to merry old England to face trial,
which is always a good idea.
Yeah.
And so they attempt to ship the prisoner, but then he escapes.
So he's back, baby.
That's in the opening scene.
As I said in my video, my Adrian Easter Egg video, I'll link it below.
Why would you take him by rickety flying horse?
Yeah.
Can't you like jump anywhere instantly?
Don't you have that ability? It's a bit vague, isn't it?
Can't you just cut his throat and just leave him?
What are you doing?
He's Hitler.
I mean, I know you don't know, but he's done a lot of crimes.
You know what you could do?
You could get a couple of judges from England
and put them in a rickety horse carriage
and send them to America, and they could go,
hmm, all the evidence says you're the worst.
Let's kill you now.
And they could put him in that thing. Remember the thing in the last one where there's water or something? You could go in the, all the evidence says you're the worst. Let's kill you now. And they could put him in that thing.
Remember the thing in the last one where there's a water or something?
You could go in the water, you'd die.
That's right.
That's a room that they'll throw anybody into.
The acid room.
Just put him in that.
Just put him in that.
They'll do that on a whim.
And then we do it for this guy?
Weird, isn't it?
Yeah, it is weird.
What are his crimes?
Murders?
I'm not really sure.
He doesn't do a hell of a lot of crimes in this. It's called Crimes of Grindelwald. A lot of people have pointed this out. Yeah, it is weird. What are his crimes? Murders? I'm not really sure.
He doesn't do a hell of a lot of crimes in this.
It's called Crimes of Grindelwald.
A lot of people have pointed this out.
He does some crimes.
He doesn't do so many crimes. Oh, but he kills that family.
Does he, though?
No, he kills at least two of them.
Does he?
I thought someone else was doing it.
One of his henchmen kills the baby.
Yeah, anyway.
But anyway, that's why Charles Manson went to jail for it.
That's right, I was about to say, yeah.
Charles Manson didn't kill anybody.
Anyway, that's what the story is.
Yes, thank you.
Correct.
We're going to do non-spoilers, even though we've done some spoilers.
Correct, yes.
And then we'll jump into spoilers.
I thought this was terrible.
What did you think?
I didn't mind it.
I thought a lot of it was really dumb, but I had fun with it.
Really?
That's right.
I thought it was...
People are allowed to have fun with these movies.
No, I thought it was so meandering and then it just got to a point where everybody stood in a room and told
each other what was going on it's true that's what this movie was that's right okay so this one
this one has some this one has some inexplicable changes from the previous movie in what way in
the sense that the last one we in character played by Ezra Miller was killed,
but in this one, he's just not dead.
I think he came back in the post-credits, maybe.
I don't remember.
But anyway, he's alive still.
He's alive still.
Do you want to move your mic in a little closer?
No.
People say when I ask you to do this, there's no change,
but I just want to point out.
Because you fix it in post.
You fix it in post.
I see.
I get it.
All right.
Did you put some reverb on it now?
So it sounds like it's too close.
I can't.
Too close.
That's too close.
Yeah.
In this one, okay, I should let you know that about 10 minutes into this movie,
at one point, Newt is riding like a monster made of kelp.
Yes.
And I'm like, this is probably the-
It's called a kelpie.
Exactly.
This is probably the first-
That's a good joke.
It's not a joke.
No, I know.
It's in the movie.
I thought it was a good joke in the movie.
Okay.
But I was like, this will be the perfect point to go to the bathroom.
And I came back two minutes later, and then Queenie and the boyfriend are there there and he's got his memory back.
Yes.
Inexplicably.
Oh, what they explain it to be is because that only erases bad memories and because
he only had good memories, his memories came back.
Cool.
Yeah.
So that was good, wasn't it?
Magic works unless it doesn't.
Unless it doesn't, yeah.
So that's pretty good.
Look, we all knew he was going to get his memory back.
Yeah, I know.
I'm not really fussed by it, to be honest.
I like that character.
Same.
I like a lot of the characters from the first one.
It's just a shame they're not really in it.
It's mostly just new characters that kind of meander about,
and then at the end, these new characters explain who they are.
Yep.
And I don't think Johnny Depp is terrible, but i can't as an actor you mean specifically yes
i should yeah sorry i should specify but i don't think he's good in this because he's
all you see is johnny depp i think jude law just kind of is a really good dumbledore and i only
see dumbledore i just see johnny step just mugging and waving his arms about. What's interesting also is that the idea of Grindelwald in this movie
is that he's just using his words and he's so seductive.
He knows the right things to say and he's so charming
and so he can lure people into his web of evil.
Colin Farrell would have been way better. He's so much better. Way can lure people into his web of evil yeah colin farrell would have
been way better he's so much better way more because he's way more charming in this grindelwald
he has a weird bung iron that's what i'm saying and he's the eye alone would be like no that haircut
no exactly the clothes that this design it's too much yeah and i think that's what's good about
voldemort he's just a snake and Voldemort. He's just a snake.
And I think that works.
He's just a snake man.
This is like, he's got a bung eye and he's got the sides of his head shaved.
Also, it's bleached and he wears stupid overcoats and he's like he's an albino.
There's so much.
And it's too much.
I think maybe if he took away the eye at least, it would probably...
I loved all the costumes in this movie.
Yeah, the costumes are good.
I don't understand what happened to the fashion
because Dumbledore was wearing sweet overcoats and vests
and then he's just...
Then he's in a robe.
In a robe.
What happened?
I don't know.
I mean, he got old.
He doesn't care.
Maybe if you gain a certain amount of magical ability,
like all normal clothes just dissolve off your body.
Like there's a certain amount of magic heat coming off you
and it just disintegrates.
Maybe you just want to pee easier.
That's a good point, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't have time for zips.
Yeah, that's it.
So anyway, the new Scamander returned, so I like.
I think he's really good.
Yep.
I'm hoping these movies aren't going to be less and less about him.
I mean, he's in it quite a bit, but...
Look, I think, you know what, I...
Why call them Fantastic Beasts?
Should have called them.
Well,
they thought the brand,
they thought the branding would be more effective than it is.
Evidently.
Yeah.
I reckon they were like,
people love the let's fantastic base.
Here we go again.
People go in.
Cause it's just fantastic base.
And I guess I could have called it like the wizarding war or something like that.
I don't know.
Anyway,
sorry,
go on.
I was going to say,
uh,
I actually enjoyed knowing that knowing that there was going to,
there's going to,
this is the second of five, supposedly,
I actually quite enjoyed how it was paced.
It was kind of very, it was a little,
they sort of Empire Strikes backed it at the end.
Yeah, in a bad way.
I didn't mind it.
Yeah, okay, fair enough.
But I mean, Empire Strikes backs it in two of five yeah it's not it's not there's not three
and because this this one was 27 and it ends in 45 that's when this is from the movies and books
that's when dumbledore defeats grindelwald right so yeah i guess the next one will be 35 and then
39 and then 45 or whatever. I don't know.
Yeah, all right. But I don't...
All the new characters in this I didn't particularly like.
Break down the new characters for me.
Who do we have?
Leta Lestrange.
Yep, okay.
Whatever.
Now, there's a Lestrange in the Harry Potter movies, right?
Yeah, they're great, great aunt.
It's in my Easter egg video.
Terrific.
You can bloody check it out.
And there's Scamander's brother.
He was all right.
Handsome Scamander.
Handsome Scamando.
Who realistically is the same guy, but with slightly better hair.
They look so similar.
It's weird, isn't it?
They're not really brothers, I don't think.
I don't think they are, no.
Yeah.
Of course, we've got Queenie's back with Tina.
I like those two.
Yep.
I really like Dumbledore.
He's in it for like eight minutes.
But he's really good. And I think he's way better than the previous Dumbledore He's in it for like 8 minutes But he's really good
And I think he's way better than the previous Dumbledores
That they cast
Both of them
Both old Dumbledores
100%
You've read the Harry Potter books
So you're saying that his performance
That is not based on any of the books
Is better than the versions That are based on the books.
Cause he's got a,
like a twinkle in his eye.
He's got a,
it's a,
it's a,
it's a quiet confidence.
The Richard Harris one just felt like he was going to die,
which he did.
And the second guy just felt just manic and just didn't know what he was
doing.
And I think there's never that sense with,
remember the bit in the fourth Harry Potter when he's like,
Harry,
did you put your name in the goblet of fire? Exactly. Yeah. Like that bit in the book is Potter when he's like, Harry, did you bring on Hammond the Goblet of Fire?
Yes, exactly.
Like, that bit in the book does not play out like that.
Well, that's his magical heat.
Plus, he's on a lot of speed.
He's probably on a lot of speed.
Yeah.
Just regular speed.
Yeah, just regular speed.
Exactly.
Do you think it's the confidence that Jude Law has developed from being on the TV show
The Young Pope?
It may just be. It may just be.
It may just be.
I didn't mind the snake lady.
Yeah, for sure.
But she was good.
I didn't really care for the guy who we were supposed to know who explained his story.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The whole time I'm like, who is this?
What is this?
Yeah.
And then when they explained it, I'm like, I don't care.
I don't care.
They could have cut him out, I think.
I think they could have, yeah. i explained it i'm like i don't care i don't care cut him out i think i think you're right he there's a there's a we meet we meet a mysterious man throughout the course of this
and and he he clearly has an agenda that aligns with some of the characters and not with other
other characters and then it's revealed who he is and what his deal is and then another character
reveals another thing that makes his entire quest irrelevant. An additional recall.
And I think because J.K. Rowling wrote this,
the Claire said this best because we saw it together.
It's like an information dump from her.
She's like, and then there's this character and that's related to this person.
Because generally in the Harry Potter movies, the books, sorry,
there's mystery and it kind of goes along and you're like, who's this and what's what?
And then everybody stands in a room and explains it to each other and there's a bit
of that in the films you know the bit where the man is a rat and the rat is a man oh yeah there's
a bit of that but they kind of intercut it with a bit of action and they shorten it down but this
was just people for 15 minutes going and i'm this person and this is why i'm here and this is what i
think and you're you and maybe you're related to this person what the fuck is happening and who cares yeah but you didn't mind any of that well i mean it was it
was 10 minutes i feel like i could have you know i enjoyed everything leading up to it and i enjoyed
the action sequences after that so yeah we'll talk about that all right uh also there was nicholas
flamel uh who he's the he's the creator philosopher
stone right it was fine yeah and mostly pointless there is a there's some really good special
effects in this but i also feel there's some warner brothers cgi smoke and fire that department
is just like just just do that i think these warner brothers movies a lot of them have a look
talking about the comic book movies in particular and i think there was a lot of that in this.
Would you disagree with that or agree?
Sometimes. Like the opening scene,
which I didn't mind, but that felt a bit like
you know,
and some of the end bit, just like, it's fire and
it's a demon and it's broken, look out.
Yeah, no, it never
struck me. I think if it were
if it were, you know, I didn't
go, ooh, Justice League oh justice leaguey no it's
not that bad but i feel like they've got a like a gray kind of there's a great cast to it yeah
but i think that's also that that's their 1920s look okay it's gray and grim you know but i do
like the stuff and i this is what i really liked about the first one which i didn't mind i thought
it was quite good this one not as much obviously okay yeah the smaller spaces thing like the room in this i don't think we really go into
his case do we i mean there are some there are some beasts in it yeah but you don't really you
don't explore it like we did in the first no there's no there's there's i think we see some
he's in there and we see some shots in the distance of like oh look at all the open fields
and blah blah that they're in the case.
But he never really goes out into them.
But he's got like a magical expando basement,
which I really like with all the different creatures in it.
And that bit, I really like.
That stuff, I think these movies should lean into that stuff more.
Who makes this stuff?
In terms of?
In terms of like, if you have a briefcase that opens up
and there's fields and whatever, did he make that?
Might be an enchantment, yeah.
But I mean, did he do the enchantment or did somebody else do it?
I don't know.
I think you can do it.
I think people can do it.
Right, okay.
But you can just get it for like a tent because I don't think it's a big deal.
See, I was going to say, yeah, right.
I think anyone can do it.
I wonder if it's also illegal to like do it too much.
Yeah, right.
So why does anyone have a house?
Just live in a hole in the ground.
I had a question about that as well.
It's a real estate problem.
It is a real estate problem.
So in this Paris, do the real world and the magical world overlap?
That's a very good question, Mason.
I had that same question.
Because when they go to Paris, Paris, I should say, we've both been there.
We're both men of the world.
That's true, yeah.
You step through a statue, you tap a guy on the back or whatever, and you just walk through,
or you stun him or whatever happens.
And then you might be in magical Paris, but it just looks like regular Paris.
Yeah.
And also, when they're-
From time to time, I was confused, because sometimes there's an action sequence, and
there's a loose monster, and what's going to happen and i'm like is this magical paris or is it regular
paris i can't tell from the the extras whether they're just regular scared because it's a monster
in their magical world or if they're super scared because they're all dressed like it's the 20s as
well so we don't we don't know because if you remember the Harry Potter movies, when you go into Diagon Alley or whatever,
it's very clearly a magical world with like goblins and weird looking people
and creatures and whatever.
But this is,
it just looks like more Paris.
And then there's a bit where he's doing a detective.
He's doing the Arkham site.
Yes.
Where he's,
he's turned on his detective vision.
And he's unpacking a crime that happened
or whatever and i'm unclear like can other people see this and is this magical paris but i'm just
unclear whether anybody's watching this guy and then there's a bit when grindel grindelwald
rolls in we're saying that inconsistently we don't care and it's wald or vault we don't mind
and uh i think it is vault it doesn't matter, yeah. And then black sheets cover the town.
So who can see that?
Who can see that?
Yeah, right.
I don't understand.
Yeah.
I was willing to give him a pass on that,
only in the sense that I'm like,
I feel like the exposition would tell us
if regular people could see that.
Yeah.
Like, I think if they were like,
Grindelwald's put the sheets over the town
and the whole town's panicking, right?
I think then we'd know that it was regular Paris,
but I think that was magical Paris.
Yeah, well, great.
Yeah.
I'm really glad.
But I enjoyed the fact that he was just,
Newt was just doing some detective stuff.
Yes.
You know why?
Because that's why I like these
more than I like the Harry Potter movies.
The first few of those, yeah.
Especially the early ones,
because it's grown-ups doing jobs in this world.
They're professionals.
There's a reason for them to be learning this stupid magic.
Yeah.
It's because they need it to do stuff, as opposed to the Harry Potter movies where it's
like, you've all got to learn magic, but never use it.
Never use your magic.
We'll kill you.
We'll put you in Azkaban for little to no reason.
Yeah. Ponder an apple for lunch, Azkaban. You're going in Azkaban for little to no reason.
Pond you an apple for lunch, Azkaban?
You're going to Azkaban.
But I like that.
I would like to see just a The Office-style sitcom with magical people.
We see a little bit of that,
just people going about their job at the ministry
and there's a wacky magical thing,
but it's just another bloody day at their bloody office,
the magical whatever thing.
But speaking of, you're talking about kids though.
We went back to Hogwarts and then when we were there,
we went back to Hogwarts with the flashback to 10 years before
where Dumbledore and everyone else just looked the same.
Yeah, right.
Great.
I just thought that was weird.
They were like, it's Hogwarts again, but imagine Hogwarts 10 years earlier.
Yeah.
Right.
Wow.
This is incredible.
Okay.
Hogwarts is,
we're not excited to go back to Hogwarts.
Yeah.
I just thought it was weird that they just did it twice.
Flashback in a flashback.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean,
it wasn't a flashback with a video.
I get what you mean.
Yeah.
I mean,
sure.
It's fine.
It's I,
yeah.
You didn't,
you didn't fit.
You weren't like, Oh, I'm back at my favorite place in the world.
Cause I love Harry Potter.
No, no, I didn't.
I was mostly just bored.
And then people are in a room yelling at Dumbledore and he's like, oh, I'll sit on this, the edge of this desk.
Don't you worry about it, mate.
He's pretty good.
He's great.
He's really good.
And this movie should have been him and Newt.
Instead it's like, who's this guy? I kind of thought they were going to team up. They should. Well, that looks like it's where it's great. He's really good. And this movie should have been him and Newt. Instead it's like, who's this guy?
And who's related to this idiot?
I kind of thought they were going to team up.
Well, that looks like it's where it's going.
Anyway, it's the worst movie ever.
Spoilers?
Whoa, I thought it was the best movie ever.
Well, you're wrong.
It's the worst Harry Potter movie.
I had fun with it.
Well, you're wrong.
I wish I had a lanyard.
I got one.
It's on there.
No, I don't want that one.
You want your own?
Yeah, I want my own lanyard.
No, no.
I've got a Fantastic Beasts lanyard.
I've hung it on there.
You can't have it, Mason.
Oh, come on.
No, you can have it if you really want.
Thank you.
Okay, spoilers.
Okay.
Okay.
Here's a spoiler for you.
Sure.
Again, I enjoyed this movie, but there was a lot of dumb stuff in it.
First of all, I've said this before.
Sometimes I find it weird in a movie where there's a big dramatic thing and it could be solved with somebody putting a post-it note on a
fridge that says,
Hey,
the actual answer is this or which particular part I'm talking about is the
fact that Tina thinks Newt is,
is,
is engaged because of a typo in a newspaper and she's real mad about it.
She doesn't check with anybody.
He doesn't also just tell her immediately.
I mean, I guess it boils down to being a goof. He doesn't also just tell her immediately. Yeah, uh-huh.
I mean, I guess it boils down to him being a goof.
He is a goof, but it's weird that, yeah.
I know, you're right.
You're absolutely right.
Yeah, we hate posted problems.
I do hate posted problems.
You know what I thought was weird?
How they brought him into the ministry.
They're like, Newt, listen, we don't like you,
but your brother's going to give you a job,
and all you're going to do is go to Paris and kill a boy.
What the fuck's wrong with you?
Are you going to do this or what?
It's like, I don't really want to do it.
And they're like, well, we got this guy.
And he's like, this guy?
Yeah.
Do you know him?
Because you never kind of explain whether you,
like, who is this guy to you?
Right.
And then, but I thought that was really weird.
They're like, you have to work in an office.
And he's like, I'll never work in an office. I want to live in a suitcase and whatever.
But it's so, what kind of government is this where it's like
you gotta kill a guy for us and then you can go to paris and also they were like we we banned you
from international travel because of that last time you know when you saved the city when you
saved the america last time remember that well there was a lot of property damage that we fixed
immediately with magic but all those wizards were quite tired afterwards yes so anyway we need you to kill a man yeah yeah this had two babies being murdered it sure did yep
and that was good oh well one was not murdered well yeah i guess two dead babies yeah that's
fine so that was fun i guess yep uh what i thought was strange in this movie is the way strange list
very good was the way that uh they dealt with looking into the future.
There was two elements.
Crystal ball.
Crystal ball.
That's not really how looking into the future works in these movies.
Okay.
And I think it's strange because...
Less strange.
Thank you.
I think it's odd because...
A little odd.
In previous films...
Los Odos.
And look, I don't have a problem with this with other movies like Star Wars or whatever
where they add a new element.
But there's like a prophecy that someone will tell somebody else and then... Right. And look, I don't have a problem with this with other movies like Star Wars or whatever, where they add a new element.
But there's like a prophecy that someone will tell somebody else and then it's a spoken word thing.
But here it's just like Newt Scamander is just looking at a crystal ball and he's like, oh, that's the cemetery.
I think that's like six hours from now.
This is the future.
I can't believe the future's here already.
I'm just looking at this crystal ball.
So there's that.
The crystal ball you can just see eight to six hours in the future's here already I'm just looking in this crystal ball so there's that the crystal ball you can just see 8 to 6 hours in the future
and then
Johnny Depp
has the bong of tomorrow
where he blows
into a skull
and is just like
this is World War 2
and it's right
like it's just
dead on
it's just World War 2
does this movie imply
that if
Grindelwald had his way
he could have averted
the whole course
I saw a tweet about that
potentially
well I don't think he wants to avert anything.
I think it's all scare tactics.
I think there's a lot of elements of him of like the far left and the far right.
You know what I mean?
Like there's bad people on both sides, but I don't think it was done particularly well.
Yeah, right.
I thought it was really ham-fisted and not a good parallel to today's world.
Did you like the magic though?
Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew.
Bang, bang.
Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
No, not really.
Okay.
Before we get...
I like him teleporting all about the place.
That I like.
I think that's fun.
Yeah, I like that too.
Apparat.
I like the bit where Dumbledore's telling Newt to go to Paris
and he's like, go to Paris and this is my leather glove
which will say hello to you or whatever. I liked that. Yeah. I thought it was... Dumbledore's telling Newt to go to Paris and he's like, go to Paris and this is my leather glove,
which will say hello to you or whatever.
I liked that.
Yeah.
I thought it was... Yeah, that's the thing.
I like their dynamic a lot.
There's a moment where, and again, you know,
Newt's like, you couldn't have picked a more,
we're all the inconspicuous rooftops taken kind of thing.
I thought that was fun.
Yeah, I agree.
So, I don't know.
I'm excited to see them team up.
They'd better team up. They should team that was fun. Yeah, I agree. So, I don't know. I'm excited to see them team up. They'd better team up.
They should team up and kiss.
Yeah.
Speaking of,
I also found it a little bit odd
that Dumbledore and Grindelwald
can't attack each other
because they made a blood pact,
like a magical blood pact
that means they can't harm each other.
But surely,
if you were in some sort of
very powerful relationship with one another, you wouldn't need to do that.
Like to promise not to kill each other.
You wouldn't be like, listen, you know, I love you from the bottom of my heart.
But just in case I decide to cave your head in with a shovel one day, let's make a magical pact so we can't do that.
That's a good point.
It's also, they've got unbreakable curses, but this is a different thing.
We haven't seen this before.
Because it's like a physical thing that apparently you can bust.
I also thought it was weird on the topic of that blood pact.
They were like, Dumbledore, we hate you and you suck
and we know you're after power.
And he's like, I'm not.
I'm just a dude.
I just want to get old enough to wear a dress, man.
That's what I want to do.
And then they'll go and fight Grindelwald and he's like, Vold.
And he's like.
No, some people in the movie say Wald and some people say Vold.
That's true.
It's all over the place.
And he's like, I can't do it.
Just be like, we made a blood pact.
That's why I can't do it.
Yeah, right.
Why are you being so weird and vague?
Just be like, I made a promise that we couldn't.
Like it's already heavily alluded to.
He's like, we were closer than brothers if you know what i mean also lean into that more they're just they just yeah yeah
what are you doing yeah but also you wouldn't even have to say that you could have said when
we're students there was a curse we probably shouldn't have and we made a blood pact and now
i can't do anything so sorry yeah why why are you hiding it i just don't because i think that's
useful information because they got because because then they'd go,
right, plan B.
Yeah.
And I just,
Let's get Newt to kill a man.
Let's get Newt to kill a man.
And then we'll give him a disc.
Yeah.
So that guy,
the guy they sent to,
the guy they sent to kill Clarence,
Credence,
Credence,
who doesn't,
who deliberately botches the job
for Grindelwald,
he's not been in anything else.
I don't know who he is.
Because he's super powerful, that guy.
Yeah, he can go into a wall and do an explosion and a shield.
He's got a good shield, doesn't he?
He's got a good shield.
He's got a good shield.
He's got a good shield.
He's got a good shield.
He's got a good shield.
I liked it.
Yeah, he'll probably turn up in other things, I'd imagine.
This guy.
Nice.
This guy.
They'll probably...
I reckon Newt and Dumbledore will fight him Lethal Weapon 3 style at the end of the next one.
Or 4, whichever one they fought Jet Li.
4, I think it was 4.
I would love that.
Okay, so the scene I had a real problem with was everybody kind of followed each other around Paris.
And who's anywhere?
And what's anybody doing?
And who are you?
And oh, you're after this guy, are you?
Well, I'm after this guy, but maybe we're after a different guy or whatever.
I don't remember the specifics.
And then they all go into a room and they forgot the part where the,
the,
the mysterious man captures both Tina and Newt and then just collapses.
Cause he's got,
he's got a squid in his eye.
I thought the squid in the eye would be related,
but it wasn't,
but it was just a virus.
Yeah.
Weird.
I thought there was like a grindelwald thing
yeah i think they just needed more beasts they're like mate but but a beast yeah i think so there's
a few moments but in this movie i feel like they were just like and a beast because beasts anyway
so they get in a room and he's like this is my backstory the lestrange stole my mother and nobody
gave a shit apparently or went to stop him and then she died
and so i'm gonna kill the greatest thing that he loves which is this guy or whatever and then she's
like well i also have a story and this is my story but my backstory tells a different story
you're right in the sense that there's in a better structured movie the first the mysterious man story would have been...
Earlier?
It would have been earlier and it would have been maybe run throughout the course of that.
We would have revealed it and then they would have gotten to that place
and he would have said, I'm going to kill this guy because of all the reasons I said earlier.
And then she could have said, well, here's my story.
But you're right, we just got two blocks of exposition.
And we got flashbacks for both.
Yeah.
So that felt very, like a real information dump.
And also, I don't care about either of those characters.
One of them's dead.
I don't remember where the other one is.
Lethal or strange, did the other guy die?
Which other guy?
The guy who was like, this is my story.
Oh, right.
I don't remember either.
I don't recall him dying in the...
No, he's still alive.
He didn't die in the fire?
He didn't die in the fire, yes.
That's right.
He escapes.
They had magical Avengers at the end of this movie.
Yeah, they did, yeah.
So he was in that.
They got a snake.
They got a Dumbledore.
Yep.
They got a little platypus boy.
Yep.
They got two Scamanders.
Two Scamanders. Toot Scamander. Toot Scamanderumbledore. Yep. They've got a little platypus boy. Yep. They've got two Scamanders. Two Scamanders.
Toot Scamander.
Toot Scamander.
Yeah.
Okay.
I thought it was strange.
Do I Scamander?
So at the end, when Grindelwald is like, and now I'm going to hold this convention under
this tomb.
Uh-huh.
Well, okay.
Okay.
Before that.
Yes. well okay okay before that yes to just find out who's related to anybody it's just in a room in a bit of paper in a drawer you can just find out who's related to anybody why didn't anybody
go to look for this earlier to be like who is this credence kid or whatever how is it like nobody
it's just you can just go to this vault and it would just open a drawer and it tells you who's
related to who. Yep.
Nobody thought to do that earlier than why you're busting in. But I think that, wasn't it, couldn't you only get Lestrange's?
Yeah, ask her to do it.
No, but I mean, she wouldn't have known.
That he was related.
Related.
Because that was only a rumor, I think.
Okay, yeah.
Well, or you can polyjuice potion it or you can just be like,
we're the government. We pay for these drawers and i'm looking in this drawer right yeah yeah uh that woman who looked after the drawers she was weird what was going on there i don't know
i thought she was going to be a snake lady or something yeah just like dogs i guess just like
dogs do you say just like dogs? Yes.
But they're not dogs.
No.
They only attack you if you attack them.
Like dogs.
Like dogs.
They were dogs.
Yeah, they were dogs.
But he said they weren't dogs.
That's true, yeah.
But they were dogs. Yeah, they were dogs.
But they moved the information to a tomb.
So they go to the tomb and then everybody tells each other who they are.
Yep.
And there was a baby drowned and whatever.
And then under the tomb, there's a auditorium where Grindelwald is like,
every side's as bad as each other.
And I tell you what, you've got to listen to me.
World War II.
It's coming.
There's going to be a second one.
Look at these people do all the violence.
Sequels are always better than the originals.
Yeah.
It is like everybody's doing violence here,
so make sure you tell everybody what happened.
So the idea was that he set it up in a way that they'd see that
the people who were against him killed an innocent person
and they'd tell everybody.
But then afterwards, wouldn't people also be like,
he killed like 80 people in the room.
He was on fire.
And also his plan was just to destroy paris so even if they went and
said yeah but they killed this one guy or this one woman who kind of was trying to protect him
and they they could just been like he fucking knocked down paris yeah right i don't think that
how many people do you know in paris exactly even if she'd gotten out of the room yeah it was probably
she was probably gonna die when par Paris was blown up yeah so he had
every
I love that
because after
he makes a fire
demon
and then everyone's
like
everybody shoot
at it
because it's
going to destroy
Paris
alright
so that was
just a kind of
an off the cuff
kind of
oh no
there's stakes
here
because this fire
demon's going to
destroy Paris
and Nicholas
was like
I can't do magic
because I've only been lying low.
And then he did.
Put your wands in the ground.
That's his Han Solo moment.
Great.
So good.
But Han Solo from Star Wars,
not Han Solo from Empire Strikes Back.
Yes.
Otherwise it would have just him being entombed.
So anyway, he's giving the speech, and the auras come in.
Tootscamander comes in, and he's like, don't arrest him because that's what he wants.
We just got to let him talk.
It's not illegal to talk.
He was in jail for crimes.
Just go and get him.
You're allowed to arrest him.
You're the police.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Just get him.
No, I see what you're saying there.
Get him. arrest him you're the police what the fuck is wrong with you no no get him no i see what you're saying get him but they did say in the mood they said don't harm anybody else because it's not a
crime to listen to him they wanted to apprehend him they were gonna get him so you don't do you
think they should just go down and be like shut up yeah shut up i would have done get him yeah
everybody get him bearing in mind though isn't everybody in the room also magic yes so that
would have been hectic yeah who, who cares? All right.
It was hectic.
That being said, though, because it's, you know,
my question is always, I guess it's a scale issue.
Like, if you can make a case and you can have it filled with endless worlds,
can't you do a spell to, like, trap 200 people?
Like, what's the limit of this?
Oh, yeah, good point.
It's like, they're all in the case.
They're all arrested. Exactly, yeah. Or does that take... They're all in the case, they're all arrested Exactly yeah
We're all arrested, we threw the case into an acid pool
What is that
You know
I don't know
What did you think of the death of Leta Lestrange
The correct answer is
Who cares
But she just explained
Her backstory at incredible length
I thought it was really strange that
her death didn't serve a purpose she's like i'm standing against this guy and then she
she didn't even get at least she could have got the blood packed thing but the niffler got it
because i feel like they went we could we could get the beasts to do a thing but she just went
i'm not with you and then she exploded is that because they and i haven't counted but is that because they needed an even number of people at the end
because it was it was one person saved every half the people saved the other half oh okay they were
like no we got one person left over just kill her it might have been no i think maybe they just
needed i think it might have been a case of we need the brothers to be friends again i think it
would have been so we'll just kill i think it would have been a case of we need the brothers to be friends again. I think it would have been. So we'll just kill.
I think it would have been more interesting to kill the brother.
I thought that's where it was going to go.
Kill Toots Commander.
Yeah.
And then there's kind of a love triangle, but he obviously ends up with Tina.
But I think that would have shook him up more.
I agree.
It kicked him into gear than the other thing.
Yeah, for sure.
Because then he wouldn't, because then he wouldn't,
Toots Commander would have had a, he would have had unresolved, unresolved whatever like you know i didn't get along with my brother i should
have listened to him and i picked a side i like that bit about picking your side and now you're
gonna take a stand i like that element of it maybe that was like a late stage rewrite they're like
well we've got more maybe they're like we have more character stuff for for toots commander to
do later yeah in the next movie so let's you might we gotta kill one of them so i loved the bit when queenie was like i love you but i'm gonna go with old bungai mcgee over here
because i want to get married which i can in this country yeah i'm still gonna go with this guy
who's a murderer you cool with that yeah no well i'm i'm going anyway so right odd choice was wasn't
it yeah it's a good movie though, according to you.
No, I still think it was good.
I still think it was good.
Yeah.
Anyway, at the end, it's Dumbledore's brother.
Yep.
Surprise, everybody.
What did you think of that?
I've got some theories in my video about how that could be.
Okay.
So Dumbledore already has...
Yeah, he's got a brother called Aberforth. He runs the inn in Hogsmeade. And another one? has yeah he's got a brother called abor fourth he runs the inn
in uh hogsmeade and another one no he's got a sister there we go yeah okay so he's got two
brothers no he's got a sister oh now he does okay apparently but also i feel like this might be a
fake out or another thing yeah yeah because you know he does say well the dumbledores the phoenix
arises for the dumbledores or whatever but maybe that's a trick phoumbledore's, the phoenix arises for the Dumbledore's or whatever, but
maybe that's a trick phoenix.
Yeah.
Well, that phoenix is from the, that's the phoenix from the movies.
I assume the other movies.
Yep.
The other thing is Dumbledore, I've explained this more in my video, but there's a Dumbledore's
sister was also an Obscurus, it seemed, you know, where you don't do magic and you turn
into a black cloud or whatever.
Okay.
And she was killed in the duel with Grindelwald and the brother and whatever.
That's what happened.
So wait, this hasn't happened yet.
No, it has happened like 20 years prior.
So Aberforth, who's Dumbledore's...
So in the flashback, within the flashback.
Yes.
Within a flashback.
There's probably an additional...
We're going to see this in another movie.
So because he said he had a sister, but she died.
Yeah.
So basically...
So you don't know this.
No.
Okay. this okay so because he's he said he had a sister but she died yeah so basically so you don't know this no okay so basically what happened is in the past when grindelwald and dumbledore were making out they were macking out macking on and whatever nice young young dumbledore that's right
i i i before was like this guy sucks and he's got a weird like the brother yep and so he went and
dueled him and then there was like a bit of a...
So Dumbledore's brother and Grindelwald had a fight.
Yeah.
And Dumbledore was also involved in this.
And maybe the blood pact was before.
And so maybe he was just standing in the middle or whatever.
I don't know.
But anyway...
Boys, stop it.
Boys!
Anyway, in the jewel...
Both marry me.
The sister was killed.
Right?
But she was suppressing...
She just showed up and she's like...
Dude lived there.
So she was suppressing her magic because some muggle kids had like picked on her and like threw rocks at
her and so she she went all like weird and insular about it so the one of the theories is wait so
when does she get killed it's in the fight she's there she's there okay right so but it's an accident
stop it ah you can both marry me because it's legal in this country.
Probably.
So her Obscurus, which can be separated from a person,
may have attached itself to baby Credence.
So that's why he's not technically related, but maybe that's it.
Or maybe his dad went to Azkaban for attacking those Michaels
who attacked his daughter, which I think is fair.
I don't think he probably should have gone to jail for that.
No.
But whatevs.
So that's what it could be.
Or he could just be, yeah, who knows?
But anyway, it's his brother and what a twist.
That is a twist.
You know what I mean?
I do.
But his age of about 17 to 20 lines up with about when that death
would have happened.
Oh.
So, yeah. Or he could be like a reincarnation or I don't know if that death would have happened. Oh. So, yeah.
Or it could be like a reincarnation or I don't know if that's a thing in this universe.
Who's to say?
Well, we've introduced blood packs.
I'm okay with a blood pack.
Packs.
Squibs.
Yeah.
Is that all the things?
It's all the things, I think.
I've got some letters here from people who enjoyed it just as much as us.
Ooh.
James says,
Spoilers, Fantastic Beasts was the worst movie in the HP universe.
Newt disguised himself without changing his clothes first.
He always wears the same clothes.
No, they always do that.
What?
They always do that.
What?
The bloody, didn't they do that?
Didn't the kids do that in one of the movies?
Yeah, they changed their clothes.
Yeah, but I mean, who cares?
He's saying he always wears the same clothes.
That's true.
Also, secret Dumbledore brother who cares.
Ben says,
Just saw Fantastic Beasts, The Crimes of Gay Wizard Hitler.
Totally bored me to death.
We should probably stop saying that.
Yeah, we probably should.
We've done it to death.
None of it was connected until the character was forced into the same room
and they all talked about how they were connected.
My mother loved it though.
Vic says, just came out of Fantastic Beasts.
Where are the beasts?
They're in the case.
And it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.
There were some major problems with the characters
and that reveal at the end was a bit iffy but i didn't mind jesse says just saw fantastic
beast 2 it felt like a two-hour trailer for fantastic beast 3 to 5 uh can a sequel win the
game is on because the game was magically on can a sequel win the game is on mason yes hmm i don't
think we're gonna get these oh yeah for sure so i don't know i don't know if this will it's it could
definitely be a contender but I don't think it's...
It could win that award.
Pronounceable name says,
and I thought the first one was bad, this
was actually really good. Finally, epic stakes.
Finally, reason to care about pre-Voldemort world
that I didn't think I'd give a damn about. The Wizarding War
is upon us. I don't disagree with that.
I think there could be more interesting stuff
coming after this.
Anything else?
No, although I did remember we didn't talk about Detective Pikachu.
Oh, the trailer.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Well, we'll talk about it in the next segment or the letter segment.
Oh, yeah, cool.
Because people have asked about it.
All right, nice.
Yeah, cool.
Next segment, Mason.
Yes.
What are we reading?
What are we going to read?
I'm doing the thing.
What are we reading? What are we going to read? I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today?
What have you been reading?
Well, this week I'm going to see Robin Hood.
Oh, are you?
And I'm also going to see Cree.
But we can't do a Cree episode next week because I think you're not seeing it this week because
it's a screening, but you can't make the screening.
So we do Cree the following week.
But next week is Robin Hood week.
So I have to watch Robin Hood hood yes mason terrific and in addition to that yes on
tuesday's caravan of garbage we take a look at a robin hood adventure which i think people will
oh yeah okay yeah i remember that one now yeah that was it's two hours of my life i'll never
get back all right cool cool great stuff yeah it's a rob Hood film, but it's the worst one in the world.
Agreed, yes.
Yeah, and it's a little spin-off of one of the other Caravan of Garbages
that we did a while back that is just great stuff.
Yeah, but also I've watched Outlaw King on Netflix.
What is that?
It's kind of like a Braveheart sequel.
It's Chris Pine as Robert the Bruce.
It's not actually a sequel, but it's that story.
It's kind of what happened after Braveheart, sort of.
And yeah, it's the story of the Scottish,
the King of Scotland and declaring independence
from the British Empire and et cetera.
And I thought it was okay.
Terrific
Very good
What about you?
Let's see
I watched the season 4
of Broad City
which is a series
I enjoy a lot
I've seen all of that also
and I didn't know
it had a season 4
until quite recently
I'm like why have they
not released it
but it's on DVD
so I got that
Very good
It's one of my favourite shows
it's really good
Excellent
And I also started watching
AP Bio
Have you seen that?
It's Glenn Houghton I actually started that just yesterday I watched you seen that? It's Glenn Houghton.
I actually started that just yesterday.
I watched two or three.
So it's Glenn Houghton from Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
Yeah.
As a disgraced philosophy professor who now teaches advanced placement bio at his old hometown's high school.
What do you think?
Yeah.
We'll see.
That's the thing.
It's a lot of it's a lot of
adults behaving badly kind of thing yeah i'm kind of sick of that role models behaving badly
which we've seen a bit of uh look at someone who used to be a teacher mason yes and who has
traveled oh yes uh they're doing teaching yep when. When I see this stuff, I'm like,
I don't know,
you just,
it's really hard to fire a teacher,
but that guy would be fired immediately.
I see, right. There's a lot of protections in place.
Yeah.
But it's just,
I can't kind of get past that element of,
that's right.
Look, I think it has a certain charm.
I think right now it's quite charming.
And it's got Patton Oswalt as the,
as the long suffering principal. I think right now it's quite charming and it's got Patton Oswalt as the long suffering principal
I think it is
a show that I
can watch
without really
watching it
kind of thing
I'll just turn it on
and it'll play
and then I'll come
leave and re-enter
the room
and there'll be
a couple of
solid jokes
in whatever scene
I'm watching
and I can just
leave and come back
and it doesn't
really matter
he's got a zany scheme.
Every.
Is it going to.
Is it going to.
How many have you watched?
I reckon I've watched like eight.
Okay.
So I stick with it.
You don't have to.
All right.
I don't have to.
You don't have to.
That's a stirring endorsement.
Let's watch Broad City again.
Yeah.
Well, there's a new season.
I think they're doing one more season.
Yeah.
They're doing a season five, which they just wrapped on, I think.
Oh, cool.
So.
Yeah. I like that show a lot.
It's a good show.
What's next, Mason?
Oh, the letters segment.
Yeah.
The letters segment.
The classic one was letters, oh letters.
We love you, some letters.
They're only a take away.
I know they're here right now.
We're going to do letters.
Right.
Let's talk about Pikachu first because everybody wants to know.
Okay.
I thought it was great.
It looks good.
I don't know...
See, that's the thing.
I don't know anything about Pokemon.
Like, I've never played a game and I've never watched the cartoon.
Yeah.
Is this new direction?
This is a new direction for Pokemon generally.
There is a Detective Pikachu game.
Right.
I've never played it or barely any Pokemon games ever.
So do you feel like the Pokemon loving community is on board with this?
Yeah.
Okay, good.
I think so.
I think it's as the potential to be the best video game movie
as some people have suggested to us.
I think it's very possible.
Yeah.
I mean, it's kind of loosely Detective pikachu it seems but yeah is i like seeing these live action pokemons
i think they're they're really interesting interpretations no no i liked the ones in this
trailer oh i see what you're saying is was pokemon a card game before it was a video game that's a
good question i don't know okay no one knows that no one does know if you don't know no one knows
that's right i wouldn't even worry about it
well Pokemon came out
when I was a young man Mason
but it was one of those things
that I never
I think it was a point
where I'm like
I just can't do everything
I can't watch everything
well I
it came out to me
when I was like
I'm a grown teenager
I don't need to
any of this dumb kid stuff
or whatever
but I'm sure
people enjoyed it a lot
but I'm thinking about
getting some of the new games
on the Switch or whatever
and giving that a bloody red hot go.
My brother, the one you don't like, really likes them
and obviously everybody seems to like them in general.
That's probably why I didn't like it.
That's probably, yeah.
Assumed your brother enjoyed it.
No, but I think I like the Ryan Reynolds voice.
There's obviously a Deadpool kind of vibe and parallel.
It could be a bit PG Deadpool of like,
I'm bringing attention to this weird pop culture thing.
I also like the lead in it.
I didn't really think much of him in The Last Jurassic World,
but I thought he was really good in this.
Yeah, right.
And yeah, I would see this
even if I didn't have to see this for this show.
Yeah, right.
And I guess I have to learn something about Pokemon now
because people are like, do a trailer breakdown. I'm like, this is too much. You're going to have to name all those Pokemon. I have to learn something about Pokemon now. Because people are like, do a trailer breakdown.
I'm like, this is too much.
You're going to have to name all those Pokemon.
I have to start from scratch.
You're going to have to learn about evolutions?
Yes.
Yeah.
Mime Pokemons.
The one who mimes.
Mimeretic.
Oh, right.
Okay.
I don't know his name.
Okay.
I know Charizard.
Nice.
And that's all.
What about Pikachu?
I don't know that one.
Now, all the Pokemons evolve.
Also, it seems to me that Pikachu is like one dude, right?
Yeah.
But there's a bunch of them that are just...
Yeah, they're just called that.
No, but I mean like Pikachu, there's only one Pikachu.
But there seems in this universe...
No, they're a type. They're like a species. Oh, so there's only one Pikachu, but there seems in this, in this universe. Cause they're a type.
They're like a species.
Oh, so there's more.
Okay.
I thought there was only one Pikachu.
No, there's like various different ones.
Yeah.
You can get.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Cool, man.
I might be wrong.
Right.
But because in the trailer we see there's, there's multiple of some of the Pokemon.
Yeah. And that's how it works. It's like having a dog or multiple of some of the Pokemon. Yeah.
And that's how it works.
It's like having a dog or whatever.
There's different dogs.
Huh.
Yeah.
So that's pretty good.
This is a new world to me.
It certainly is.
Yes.
But it can shoot lightning and whatever.
So there you go.
And then it evolves into a different thing or whatever.
What does Pikachu evolve into?
A different thing, Mason.
Cool.
I can't remember.
Nice.
Let me check.
Nice.
I do know the gender ratio here, according to the Wikipedia,
is 50% male, 50% female.
That's a good ratio.
The catch rate is 190.
That's pretty good, isn't it?
Yeah, cool.
Yeah, so all of these things.
Nice.
Color yellow, base friendship 70.
Oh, that's good.
That sounds like a solid amount of friendship.
We should do a Pokemon segment
in the style of
our Gundam segment
Gundam style
where we explain
Pokemon to people
we explain Pokemon
to people
people love us
talking about
Harry Potter
agreed
I love that
yeah
it'd be nice to see
how different
fan bases react
to us mangling
their favourite thing
oh my god
because Harry Potter fans generally they will us, but they're very polite about
it.
But I wonder about other.
Oh, we did a Harry Potter quiz and a lot of people were very polite, but some people like,
at least if you're going to do this, you need to know something about Harry Potter.
No, I don't.
That's the point.
Also, I feel like we got quite a few right.
I think we did.
Yeah.
I think we did.
Yeah.
Also, who would watch two grown men do a Harry Potter quiz and we know all the answers to the Harry Potter questions?
Who would watch that?
I thought it was a fun video.
I agree.
Also, we're in the letters segment.
If you want to reach the letters segment.
Weeklyplanetpod.gmail.com
or hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter.
Do you have a bloody Gmail for us?
This is from Edward Duffy. This could have also gone in the news segment uh according to george rr martin.com uh hulu has picked up the wild cards universe for multiple
serieses don't know it love it okay well it was it was a series that he sort of it was it was
multiple right it was a book series and it's been comic books and other stuff, but it was like different writers,
and it's basically around World War II,
an alien species drops a virus on New York City.
On purpose?
Yes, like as a test, and various people gain superpowers.
We've talked about it briefly.
Oh, okay.
But, yeah, I'm excited yeah i'm excited have you read
it i've read some of the books okay and some of the comics is there is it like really gory and
like people getting murdered and their heads pulled off and stuff it's not that gory okay
but there's some weird faces i love a weird face yeah so some of the comic books did you say yes
yeah and it's all connected it's all the one universe it's all the one universe yeah fantastic
what's it called again wild cards Cards. On Hulu.
On Hulu.com.
Okay, I'll check it out.
Or whatever we get it on eventually.
Yeah, we don't have that here.
Do we have Hulu here?
I don't think so.
No, no.
This is from Faults of the Future.
You know Pete Faults.
She-Ra and the Princess of Power is excellent.
Goofy, fun, unique, and so perfectly from the brain of Ginger Hazing.
If you're a fan of her comics, Lumberjanes, Nimona, you'll dig it.
Watch it.
I haven't had a chance.
What's it called, sorry?
She-Ra.
Oh, the new She-Ra, right.
Yes.
I've seen it come up on my Netflix, but no, that's good.
Okay, yeah, nice.
I'll check it out, yeah.
Okay.
Are you a fan of the original She-Ra?
She-Ra.
I don't think so.
Hordak.
Oh, I liked Hordak.
Why?
Because he had sweet shape-shifting abilities.
Hordak.
He could turn into a rocket.
Yeah.
He could have a gun arm.
The possibilities were endless.
Did you watch that He-Man doco on the toys that made us?
No, not yet.
There's a bit where they introduce She-Ra,
and then some of the people who created He-Man blamed the decline of He-Man on She-Ra.
Oh, She-Ra.
Yeah, they're like, well, you've made it for girls, and now nobody wants this anymore.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
So there you go.
But now She-Ra's back, and where's He-Man?'s he man who knows exactly yeah uh okay i'll check that out you got
another one or i've got another one here uh no go for it i'll look for one right now this is from
big fleshy jigglypuff hey i got some pokemon that it is i got a question from the uh for the top
comic book archivists on the web the weekly planet w, Wikipedia, Brown, and Mr. Sunow Movies.
That's us.
That's us.
Are there any comic book heroes who have depression,
not like for a run or arc, but constantly something they deal with?
That's a good question.
Moon Knight was the first that came to mind,
but that's more of like a psychosis,
and he has an Egyptian god in his brain.
That's true, he does.
There is a DC series that is true he does there is a dc series
that is currently happening which is like dc it's not it's not depression but it's dc characters
who are going to a like a central location to deal with the trauma they feel okay i can't remember
what it's called someone will know out there but the trauma they deal with being superheroes i
don't know if there's any depressed there's i mean mr miracle
is chronically depressed i'm gonna say that's what came to mind but that's uh he's not always
that like the the the tom king mr miracle run is kind of a departure from that character yeah
which is why some people there's a bit of it at the start though yeah you know like it deals with
suicide and that at the start of the yeah uh-huh of the that run that run's done now like they
wrap it up did you finish it no no, no, yeah. That's really good.
I will not spoil it.
I'm not going to spoil it.
You said it was good, though.
It's really good.
All right.
Okay, it's bad.
Is that better?
It's even worse.
We Kill Giants is not a superhero one, but it kind of deals with depression and loss
and all those kind of things.
The other one that I thought was a good one, it's not a character dealing with depression,
but All-Star Superman, I think it's 10.
Everybody's seen this panel where there's the person
who's going to kill themselves on the building
and then Superman flies in and like talks him down or whatever.
So I think that's a really, I mean, that's not a character.
That's more of like a moment, but I think that's,
and I think that's a really nice moment in comics in general.
But yeah, I don't know.
I wonder if people probably have a better idea.
Like Martian Manhunter's always kind of,
it's not strictly what that character's about.
No, that's true.
There's got to be one.
I mean, and then you could be like, well, Batman in general.
Spider-Man generally.
But it's not really the kind of, it's more kind of,
I'm just generally sad.
It's not depression.
No, that's true.
I'm sure there's probably some image characters on antidepressant medication.
I'm sure.
Yeah.
Who knows?
If people know, I'd love to hear what those would be.
Yes.
Is that it, Mason?
Let me see if I can find one more letter.
Okay.
One more letter.
One day more.
What do you got, Mason?
Okay, so Jack Lane asks.
Well, he says, hello there, James and Mason.
That's not what I'd ask.
After Old Man Logan, Old Man Hawkeye, and the upcoming Old Man Quill.
I didn't know about that one.
Yeah, it's cool.
That's fun.
How long do you think it will be until the old man trend is run into the ground?
I think even DC has jumped in with Old Lady Harley, too.
They have.
I read the first issue of that.
Is it good?
No.
Oh.
Well, I mean, it's...
I don't know.
She's very Deadpool, you know?
That's funny though.
In Old Man Harley...
That's funny.
In Old Woman Harley, she's Deadpool
and she's got a sidekick who is also a Deadpool
called Redpool.
Two Deadpools.
Yeah.
Double Ds.
It's a real situation.
That's great.
Anyway... I quite like the Old Man trend. Yeah. Double Ds. It's a real situation. That's great. Anyway.
I quite like the old man trend.
Yeah, right.
I think it's an interesting universe to explore.
Have you read the other two?
I have.
I haven't.
I didn't keep up with the old man Logan when he went into the regular universe. I'm like, I don't care anymore.
I wanted to see what happened when he stayed there.
So old man Logan and old man Hawkeye, they set in the same universe?
Yes.
Old man Hawkeye is a prequel.
It's really good.
It's still running.
I think it might be 10.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, no, I want to see more.
And I think what's interesting about the Quill one is that it's going to be space as well,
like what's going on in space in the future.
So, yeah.
Okay, that's cool.
I feel that covers everything, really.
Yeah.
I mean, where else are you going to go?
Old Man Namor?
Undersea?
Old Man Namor.
Imagine the ocean, but 60 years from now just real hot
yeah he's hot and he's like where'd the bloody great barrier reef go it's stuffed mate
so but i guess the other thing is a lot of these old man characters are dead if you've ever read
yeah like spider-man's dead they couldn't do old man old man the rest of the x-men yeah
i mean you can bring back anybody obviously but like captain america got his head smushed in Like Spider-Man's dead. Hulk's dead. They couldn't do Old Man the rest of the X-Men, could they? Yeah, they're all dead.
I mean, you can bring back anybody, obviously.
But Captain America got his head smooshed in.
So I think it's once they run out of the roster.
I do like a...
Is Bucky dead?
I can't remember.
No, I don't know.
I mean, I do like a glimpse into...
See, that's the thing.
I like a glimpse into the future of any given character.
Now he's old and he doesn't want a superhero anymore kind of thing.
But now he's got a superhero.
But I don't know.
I prefer them to be their individual universes.
I think if you do the shared universe.
Oh, so it's like, what if it's Old Man Spider-Man,
but it's not the weird desert universe?
No, exactly.
I mean, they did that.
They've done Old man spider they did when i was a kid i read that uh dc had a crossover called armageddon 2001 yeah right and it and a character
a character went to each of the heroes and could see their future the next you know 10 years in
their future and every potential future was a different one and i enjoyed that a lot i thought
it was good.
What did Batman have?
Just more beating up people?
It was more beating up people, yeah.
Which is the comic that goes a thousand years in the future and Superman like descend and tries to get in the bloody Fortress of Solitude
and it's like, not enough DNA, bitch.
Oh, that's DC 1 million.
That's right.
That's set 1 million months in the future.
1 million months.
So we went to the 1 million issue, yeah.
Great.
Which is great because in the comics buyer's guides,
they actually list it right at the end. Oh, really? Because it's always issue 1 million. Yeah, even now, yeah. Great. Which is great because in the Comics Buyer's Guides, they actually list it right at the end.
Oh, really?
Because it's always issue 1 million.
Yeah, even now.
Oh, that's great.
That's a good one.
But yeah, Armageddon 2001 as a series was not great,
but some of those glimpses in the future were good.
But you can't remember which ones or which glimpses.
I think the Flash one was good.
Okay, but he doesn't know.
All right, so that is the show.
I'm happy.
But also in that series, the main villain.
Yeah.
The idea was that one of the heroes was going to be revealed to be the big villain.
And so that's why this guy was going around.
And who was it?
I've got to figure out.
Well, it was going to be Captain Atom, who was the most powerful.
Like, he was one of the most powerful.
And people figured it out.
Look, it's who cares a clock?
Oh, come on, mate.
But basically, they were like, people figured it out look it's who cares a clock oh come on mate no but
basically they they they were like okay and people figured out i guess because they adam i guess
because they canceled his book or whatever so the people were like well this is going to be him
because he's the you know because he's not going to have his own book anymore so it's going to be
him yeah but so then rather than just go through with the storyline dc editorial changed the
villain they made it a different guy they made made it Hawk, who's in Titans now.
Oh, look, it's still Who Cares the Clock.
But he was the only character it couldn't have been
based on his potential future.
They're like, we went to a billion of his potential futures
and he was never this guy.
And then they're like, no, actually he is.
Anyway, there was a real, real, real letdown
when I was eight or whatever.
I read that.
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Ross River Fever?
Yeah, it was Ross River Fever.
I have that, and I'm hallucinating people.
Great.
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Yes, you are.
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Yes.
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Nice.
Did you know somebody has taken your old MrSundayGram handle?
I'm not surprised.
That's right.
Is there anything on there interesting?
Can't remember.
Presumably, yes.
There's a lot of really good stuff there.
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Yes.
The card game?
That's what it's going to be.
What a great game.
Exactly.
Yeah.
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They're very good.
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We really do.
Yeah.
It's good times.
And next week, we will have to talk about Robin Hood.
Let me just double check that's out this week.
Which means I'll have to watch it.
Terrific.
I don't think there's any screenings.
Oh, no.
I'd like to do literally anything else.
I haven't got an email about it.
Yeah, I think it is this week.
Because it comes out, it says on the 21st in the US.
So, yeah.
That's a shame.
Maybe it's great.
Really?
Do you think it's going to be worse
than the one we watched?
No, it can't be that bad.
But look,
if they're burying the media screening,
if they're not putting it on the email.
Yeah, that's generally not good.
That's not a good sign.
I'll double check that later,
but yeah,
that's generally not a good sign.
Yeah.
All right.
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