The Weekly Planet - 271 Worst Anime Adaptations
Episode Date: February 11, 2019Western Anime and Manga Adaptations are not good so we talk about all of them today. Plus news of the Aquaman spin-off, Danai Gurira leaves The Walking Dead, Kingsman Prequel casting, news of Captain ...Marvel and Avengers Endgame, Terminator and Alien updates, World War Z 2 is dead and the future of Disney.0:00 The Start3:20 Aquaman Spin-Off7:36 Danai Gurira leaves Walking Dead9:18 The Simpsons Renewed10:43 Kingsman Prequel13:04 Child’s Play trailer18:56 Captain Marvel website23:43 Avengers Endgame image & assorted whatevs32:18 Infinity War CGI33:36 Pet Semetary trailer36:30 New Shaft trailer37:58 Terminator: New Title & Alien 5/341:57 World War Z 2 over42:52 Disney Updates45:33 Best Worst/Anime AdaptationsOldboy spoilers (spoilers 55:30 - 58:31)1:35:36 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:38:55 Letters It’s Time For LettersAmazon affiliate link: https://amzn.to/2LT3ZgXThe Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind our T-Shirts here: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows.
My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host nick mason we're back baby my headphones aren't plugged in i
was wondering why i couldn't it's embarrassing for you are you sure we got that last bit you
sure we got all that gold i don't know who cares did you sure we didn't get that you sure we didn't
get that gold where i didn't really have anything to say so i just went we're back baby i don't have
any personal uh notes or stories to open with.
Don't you normally only do that when there's been like an extended break
or you feel like there's been an extended break?
It kind of feels like it has been an extended break.
Now you're just using it as a crutch though, aren't you?
Yeah, I'm going to...
Five days?
Oh, I went away so long.
It has been a long time.
But I tell you what, it hasn't been a long time since Mason.
Yes.
Aquaman, the movie.
Feels like it's been a long time since Aquaman. December. And now it's February. Has hasn't been a long time since Mason yes Aquaman the movie feels like it's
been a long time since Aquaman December and now it's February hasn't been that long what am I
doing who's this guy it's a surprised me okay right I don't know what it is he's a character
who's very look I've been a bit grim all right what do you want from me yeah yeah yeah but I
want to talk about that oh sure yeah i have 10 gallstones in me see this
that's a fun personal story and it's fun because it's not happening to me it's just a bag of rocks
that apparently been in my body for a decade yeah right anyone's had it before it's just you get a
pain that's very intense yeah it lasts a few hours and then it goes away and nobody was able to tell
me what it was they're like you're probably just i don't know that's a that's a fire starting in
your body from the rock from the gallstones clacking together and causing sparks
the biggest ones are two centimeters across that seems too big i'm like is that big and he's like
it's moderate and i'm like that seems big that's a rock you can break a window with that and he's
like what's okay um you'll be fine we're gonna be with you as you pee them out i'm gonna have to
have my gallbladder out at some point I'll be fine Who fucking cares I don't
Anyway we're going to do it live on the show
We're going to do it on Twitch
That's right
It's going to be great
Oh good lord
Can you do
You may or may not know this
Can you get a gallbladder out with a local anesthetic
I don't think so
Because if you can
We're getting in there
You're going to be up
We're going to talk about
Can you hold the mic to me
Yes
Okay good No I'll bring a stand in We'll spray it down with be up. We're going to talk about... Can you hold the mic to me? Yes. Okay, good.
No, I'll bring a stand in.
Okay.
We'll spray it down with antibacterial.
We'll do it properly.
Yeah, exactly.
We'll put some antimicrobial shirts over the top of the mic stand so it can't be infected.
And then we'll do a special episode where we talk about the best surgical scenes in
movies while you get your gallbladder out.
We'll talk about that one from Alien.
Yep.
The Prometheus, where she said that's the only good part of that movie, maybe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's other good things, probably.
Anyway, it's a day surgery or whatever.
I'll be fine.
Yeah.
What's the worst that happens?
I die and I leave my family with nothing.
Just a gaping hole where I used to be, both emotionally and physically.
Now, the worst thing that had happened is I'm watching it on Twitch.
What?
You're not there?
No, I'm on Twitch and I'm the only one watching so i can't switch it
off you know because otherwise you're just you're just getting your gallbladder out to an empty
twitch stream you know what i mean embarrassing for you and me yeah i'd have to pretend i might
have i just come back to it every five minutes and give you a thumbs up so aquaman is getting
a spin-off the trench ohrench. Oh, The Trench.
Okay.
It was a good element of that.
Was it a good element, though?
It was short.
I mean, the biggest question I feel The Trench brought up was why haven't the tens of thousands of ravenous piranha mer-creatures
just overrun the Earth?
Because something about ocean depths?
Maybe.
And light?
They could just go to places when it's nighttime.
Maybe Nicole Kidman was keeping them in check.
That's true.
Maybe they're not amphibious.
Yeah.
That would probably do it.
Well, they evolved from Atlanteans.
And some Atlanteans can't break the surface.
That being said, they did break the surface.
They did break the surface of some time.
Yeah.
Maybe it's something to do with the temperature of the water.
I don't know. Okay. Well, all these questions will be answered in the trench
the movie no one asked for and featuring no characters from main characters at least from
the aquaman movie i i i think they said oh what if julie andrews is back though this is a big
monster yeah it's gonna be her show i'm still confused in Aquaman. Did they go through a portal or was it some kind of underwater funnel that they went into?
I think it was an underwater funnel.
I think we're just not supposed to think about the distances we're involved.
Yes.
Like I think we're just...
How the ocean is vast.
Yeah, I think we're supposed to just go, okay, well, the ocean is vast, but they went down really deep and they've got fast swimming powers.
So they got to the center of the earth.
I don't think we're supposed to go that would have taken months
yeah whatever yeah i've seen the core the movie the core with hillary swank took quite a long time
you've seen the core no you should check it out no you don't need to thank you do you like disaster
movies sometimes it's probably not a good one okay then even for those actually no i think i
like it better than a lot of those. I do like little submarine movies.
Well, there you go.
It's more like one of those things that Shredder used to get to the Technodrome.
It's more like one of those things.
What were those called?
Spirally Direly's.
Yeah, Spirally Direly's.
Good, excellent.
Anyway, I think they seem to have got this idea from...
James Wan has done spin-off...
Like, Annabelle does a spin-off of The Conjuring or the other one
Is this the Hobbs and Shaw?
Potentially, yeah
DC Universe
Well I think they've gone
Hey people liked this
I noticed that that weird piranha cannibal man
didn't get along with that weird piranha cannibal man
So what if they teamed up as a buddy movie?
In the trench
In the trench
Boy it sure is tough
patrolling the beat of the trench
Us two cannibalistic merman cops I don't get along with you In the trench. In the trench. Boy, it sure is tough patrolling the beat of the trench.
Us two cannibalistic merman cops.
I don't get along with you and you don't get along with me.
But let's eat this man off a boat. And let's see what Julie Andrews has got to say.
I'm the chief and you're off the case to...
You're off the trench.
You're off to get out of the trench.
Hand over your big knife and your big fork and your trident.
Hand them in.
Yeah, so it's writers Noah Gardner and Aidan Fitzgerald, who i forgot to look up what they have done but i'm sure they've
done wonderful work uh i get i think this stems from people aquaman is now the most successful
dc movie yeah right time i don't think it's adjusted for inflation maybe it is yeah so of
course they're going to spin off this one this is now the lynchpin of the universe mason wow
what else could they spin off from it?
Like, why this?
I guess because it's full of mysteries.
What about people fixing up that villa in Italy
that they smashed up?
Oh, that'd be good, yeah.
Just home repairs.
Uh-huh, that'd be nice.
Anyway, are you excited?
Sort of.
Oh, wow, that's good.
It's just, it's an odd,
given that they have so many DC superhero properties,
but I guess that hasn't been working out so well for them.
Some more than others.
But it's weird that they go, you know what?
You know what we should bring out of the DC universe?
Piranha monsters.
I guess.
Sure, why not?
I do have a thing that I did this week.
Okay.
A couple of weeks ago, I was on Book Cheat,
Dave Warnocki's Book Cheat with Joel Dusha.
Yeah, I remember.
Teamed up with Joel Dusha again this week.
Double team up.
Because I was on Josh Earle's podcast, Don't You Know Who I Am?
Ah, very good.
That's right, yeah, which is on the Planet Broadcasting Network.
Did people end up knowing who you were by the end?
Yeah.
Good.
Are you running out of lies to tell for that show?
No, I've always got more lies.
You've always got more lies.
Lies upon lies.
Yeah, I was on with comedians Laura Dunham and Michael Williams, who were both very funny.
What a team.
What a team. What a team.
It's a duck for its own.
Yeah, that's right.
That's great.
Good fun.
Everybody should listen to that.
Should I listen to it?
Yes.
I'll listen to it then.
Yeah, nice.
Sounds like quite the team up of things, Mason.
Agreed.
Do you want to do the next bit of news?
I guess so.
Do you like The Walking Dead?
Have you ever seen it still?
Again, I've seen the first five minutes of the first episode.
I said I'll get back to this.
I never did.
Good.
Danae Guerrera, don't know how to pronounce that.
She plays Okoye in Black Panther.
Yep.
You know, the bodyguard to the king.
And she's like, I'll kill my husband for Black Panthers.
Yep.
I'll do it.
I don't mind.
I'll do it.
Yeah.
She's leaving.
No, like, we're having lunch.
What are you doing?
Just chill out.
Come on.
She's going to do a handful of episodes in season 10 of The Walking Dead,
which has apparently been going for 10 years.
I did not know that.
Happy anniversary of The Walking Dead.
It's never been better than season one.
All right.
So that's just it.
I mean, she's a rising star in a big way.
That's true.
She's very popular on that show, and she's really good on that show, actually.
A lot of people are very good in that mediocre show.
So Andrew Lincoln has left, but he's going to have his own spin-off, Rick Grimes' Adventure Movies.
Oh, that's right.
Because there are a couple in that, so maybe they'll team up and live together on an island or whatever.
I don't know.
Every time you tell me about The Walking Dead, I'm like, oh, that's fascinating that those two are in that show and they're having a good time.
It's fascinating because it's a good premise with a really great cast.
That's a good special effects.
Great theme song.
Apparently it upsets cats if you play it to a cat.
And it's very forward to the 10-year anniversary gift.
There's somebody inexplicably showing up behind you as a surprise.
A very slow zombie is somehow behind you yeah so look i haven't
been watching this and i will continue not to but it just goes to show mason all good things must
come to an end and all mediocre things must slowly die out over a period of years bleeding viewers
i'm speaking of i believe uh the simpsons has just been renewed for seasons 31 and 32 right did you
say that yeah it's nearly as old as we are.
Yep.
Oh, boy.
That started in 89 or 88?
Well, subtracting however many seasons are currently out,
no, I won't do it either.
We could do it, but it'll drag this show to a halt.
And the breaks have already been applied.
Yeah, man, I couldn't even...
I don't know when it's on.
Do you think it's going to take a turnaround somehow?
At some point? I guess because... I don't know when it's on. Do you think it's going to take a turnaround somehow? At some point?
Yeah, I mean, things...
I guess because...
I'm sure it's not all bad.
Yeah, right.
I'm sure there's still good episodes.
I'm not going to risk it, though.
Nah.
I would want somebody whose opinion I trust
to come to me and say,
this is better than it's ever been.
It's turned around somehow.
I mean, it might get to a point where...
It's kind of antiquated, though.
Yeah, I mean, it might get to a point
where the people who were fans of it as children
start writing on it.
And then it might take a...
That's very possible.
Maybe it should have stopped for 10 years in the middle
to give it that Doctor Who boost.
Sure, yeah.
But when you've got F is for Family and Rick and Morty
and all these other things, and Family Guy, your favourite.
Absolutely, yeah.
All of these things riding high.
It's kind of like, I don't feel like need this you know but people must still be watching it you know mason we're
closer in age to homer simpson than part simpson oh no how old's homer supposed to be i think it's
like 38 39 oh god so that's you mason nearly nearly there we go uh you're excited for the Kingsman prequel that you'll see for this show?
I am now, yeah.
Okay, good.
Yeah, why?
What have you got to spoil me on that?
Aaron Taylor-Johnson is going to be in it.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
He's going to star, I think.
Daniel Bruhl is in it.
Oh, it's a World War I prequel, I should point out.
Yeah, right, from Captain America Civil War.
Correct.
And probably some grim...
The Alienist.
Oh, yeah, and probably some grim The Alienist grim oh yeah and probably some
Grim Glory
and Crime
Crime TV shows
probably
yeah they find a body
in a bridge
or in a moat
or in a well
tree
maybe it's in a tree
maybe it's in a tree
yeah
Charles Dance
you might know from
The Game is On Award
The Game is On Award
and Game of Thrones
and Alien 3
Rise Ethan
so you might know as the Lizard, and Notting Hill.
That's right.
And the replacements.
Yep.
Apparently he's going to be like the Russian hypnotist villain or something.
Okay, sure.
I'll give this another go.
Me too.
Imagine Kingsman tech, but like World War I stuff.
Cool, right?
Yeah.
Cool.
It's a horse, but it's got like guns in its legs.
Horse with guns in its legs. A horse with guns in its legs.
Yeah.
I don't think that horse would run very well.
Are they all replaced, all the legs?
Yeah, every leg.
That would just be a stationary horse.
A stationary sad horse.
Look, you've got to make an omelette, you've got to break a few eggs.
Or horses in this case.
Yeah, if you've got to weaponize a horse, you've got to break a few horses' legs.
So there you go.
Do you know who's directing that?
Is it Matthew Vaughan?
I could not tell you for a billion dollars. I'll'll i'd take a punt for a billion dollars okay here
we go yes take a punt no you have to give me a billion dollars okay i'll give you and then i'll
guess okay uh it's not matthew vaughn i'm gonna say it's not matthew vaughn okay i think it is
well regardless i got that billion dollars so i know he's he's the producer. Wait, sorry. No, he's the director.
Keeps me in the ground.
I looked at, for some reason, when you go to a lot of IMDb's,
like the first thing is producer.
Yes, right, okay.
But it should be like, I know producer is very important probably.
I don't know.
They're the boss.
But sometimes.
Sometimes.
But yeah, so, and then it's writer then director.
So there you go. Cool. But he's acted in two things it's writer, then director. So there you go.
Cool.
But he's acted in two things.
Guess what they are.
Can you give me a clue of any kind?
He's in Direct Effect, the TV series, as X-Men First Class.
I don't know what that's supposed to mean.
And in Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, he plays Yuppie in Car.
Huh, there you go.
There you go.
All right.
You could have guessed that.
No, I couldn't have.
Well, see, that's not how clues work
neither of those things
were clues
Mason
I'm bloody crook
as a bloody chook mate
I'm a crook as a chook
can't be
alright
look
look Mr.
movies
um
just wanted to let you know
based on your scans
uh you
you're gonna be fine
but
you won't be able to
give clues anymore your cook is a joke also it's going to burn when you pee really badly those
things are unrelated that's a kidney thing yeah i know this is more like any like an abdominal pain
oh yeah yeah anyway it's neither here nor there but what is both here and now oh yes there
child's play mr sunday movies your segues are going to be better than ever but you can't give It's neither here nor there. But what is both here and now? Oh, yes. And there. Child's Play.
Mr. Sunday movies, your segues are going to be better than ever.
But you can't give clues.
When one door closes, another door opens. I hope you're okay with that.
Yeah.
Child's Play is a trailer where instead of being a haunted doll with a ghost trapped in it or whatever those movies were about.
Yes.
It's now technology.
A robot doll.
High tech robot doll.
You saw a very amusing tweet
that you told me before the show.
It was something along the lines of,
if I was attacked by Chucky the doll,
I'd just kick him.
Which makes a lot of sense.
Does he have the strength
of an adult man, Vincent?
He apparently has the strength
of an adult man.
But even then,
he's quite small.
That was pointed out in the replies,
but he's just like,
no, I'd kick him though.
Like it was just,
I think, I'll try and find the tweet, but whatever, it was a masterclass
in just being like, I'd just kick, and then people just getting angry at him.
Like, well, you couldn't because-
His heart is possessed.
People have tried that and it doesn't work.
And he's like, no, but I would kick him better.
But is this going to be a high-tech doll or is it going to be a high-tech doll, but it
also has a murderer in it?
I think it's just a high-tech doll.
I remember reading the synopsis like a while back okay you're gonna you're gonna jazz it up for
the kids kids aren't interested in a spooky doll they're interested in a doll that has got the
nanotechnologies and the personality of a fortnight character or something i guess that's true yeah
that's what they want they want it tapping they want it doing a little victory shuffle absolutely
um is it i guess we we won't know until the end,
but why is it evil though?
AI maybe?
The switch like in The Simpsons.
Oh, yeah, good point.
Well, okay,
small soldiers though
were just programmed that way.
You ever seen that movie?
I've seen small soldiers.
It's a bloody banger, mate.
It is.
Phil Hartman, RIP.
Yeah, that's right.
But...
Dennis Leary's still alive.
Yeah.
He's good, isn't he?
I think so.
I don't know anything about him. He did that song, didn't he? Yep. God, he He's good isn't he? I think so I don't know anything about him
He did that song didn't he?
Yep
God he was mean wasn't he?
He was
Yeah he was real mean
He didn't tolerate certain things
Didn't care
Didn't care what anybody thought about him
Tell you what
Went his own way
That other song
Go Your Own Way
That's about him
Is it really?
Fleetwood Mac song
Wow
That's great
He must have been a very
Obtuse child
Yeah you better believe it
But did you watch any of these other ones?
I've seen Bride of Chucky, I think.
I've seen Bits and Pets.
Is that the one at the end where they have a baby?
Yes.
Where they artificially inseminate somebody in it?
The woman who's good at poker.
Yeah, is that right?
Yeah, I think so, yeah.
Yeah.
I feel somewhat confident in saying that.
Who cares? It doesn't matter.
Brad Dourif and And Jennifer Yes
You know what I'm talking about
I know who you're talking about
She's good at poker in real life
Real life poker champ
Yes
I can look it up if you want
Thank you if you could
Yeah that's the one I've seen
But I've seen bits and pieces
Was it
I don't remember this being
A particularly scary thing
No I think
Because when we'd
By the time that one was out
Jennifer Tilly
Jennifer Tilly
That one
It had
It had descended into self-parody
I think
Yes
Yeah Which is the way of all Oh John Ritter's in Bride It had descended into self-parody, I think. Yes.
Yeah, which is the way of all.
Oh, John Ritter's in Bride of Chucky.
Is he?
R.I.P.
R.I.P.
John Ritter.
Jennifer Tilly's still alive.
That's right.
Yeah, sorry, it's already descended into parody. Poker Face.
Did you know that song's about her?
Is it really?
Yeah, because she's so good at poker.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
That was the perfect time to release that song.
I agree.
Yeah, okay.
But yeah, all horror franchises descend into self-parody at a certain point uh and then they get a weird reboot except for saw i don't think so has become
a self-parody yet i saw the most recent one and i'm like this is still pretty straight-faced yeah
unless they do unless because i because i watched the first one and then the most recent one so
there was about six in the middle so they may have they may have descended into self-parody
right by about five and I don't think so.
It's mostly just the traps.
Yeah.
Did you miss anything?
No.
Do you feel?
No.
It was weird seeing Aubrey Plaza in this.
Yeah.
As a mum, but she's like 34.
Because I've been re-watching Parks and Rec.
Yeah.
And she's supposed to be like 20 or she is when they came out.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
I thought you were saying...
She's a mum?
I thought you were saying,
it's unrealistic for a 34-year-old woman to be a mum.
I would never believe it.
Yeah.
I'd be interested to see, like, what's his...
We don't even know what his original form is yet.
Because he grabs the little dungarees outfit,
the Super Mario Brothers dungarees outfit, and puts it on.
So what's he look like?
Because the traditional look of Chucky is he's like this wild-eyed, crazy head.
But he didn't start like that.
Yeah, right.
That's what I'm talking about.
Because he gets all scarred up or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
I think they've released an official image of what the new one looks like.
Oh.
I think.
But it's just a kind of a cleaner cut kind of version of...
That might not even be...
Oh, okay.
Right.
Sure, sure.
He looks like that Sony robot dog.
I hate all those. What if he did? What if he looks like that Sony robot dog I hate all those
what if he did
what if he looked like that
do you like any of those
no
yeah
do you think
this is going to be
a movie about
the terrors
of like smart speakers
and like having
Alexa in your house
oh maybe
and it's always
listening to you
something like that
yeah it's probably
going to be an element
of that
it's gone too far
etc
they put in military
chips like small soldiers yeah exactly RIP Dennis Leary you know it's just it's just all of
those things that we love i agree yeah also is it going to be one of those things where i doubt it
but it's not going to be linked to the first one i assume not going to be like we made a child's
doll that looks like those movies or whatever we released a limited edition version of the
murderous doll chucky and we built an artificial intelligence chip in it
and gave it the strength of a man.
Yeah.
But everything's going to be fine.
But you can just kick it.
Yeah, just kick it if you want.
I think that's so great.
Captain Marvel.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, it's a very 90s thing.
It's web 1.0, this thing.
I checked it out and I'm like, I hate this.
Can't even look at it. Because it reminded you of the battle it's just the gifts and the spinning and the colors do you
remember when if you didn't know a fact you had to wait until monday and go to school and find it
in an encyclopedia yes or ask somebody at school who also didn't know yeah probably a liar unless
it was a pop cultural fact in which case you just wouldn't know.
Because they don't put that in an encyclopedia, do they?
If you didn't know a song lyric and you didn't have the liner notes.
You didn't know.
Wow, yeah.
You just didn't know.
And to rely on your friend.
Do you miss not knowing?
No.
Or do you like knowing?
I hate it.
Just imagine.
Imagine if the internet broke.
No, I can't.
And I won't deal with it, quite frankly.
Don't you think there'd be a relief?
Didn't they should shut off the internet at any point?
Just for like a week to see what happens?
No.
No.
Do you think people would go mad?
People would probably go mad, right?
Based on the sample size here, one of one, yes.
100% of the people in the world would go mad.
Okay, good.
What were we talking about?
Captain Marvel website. Okay, are there any secrets to be unearthed in this a little bit
there's bits and pieces there's like apparently other people on the train might be scrolls because
it's like pick the scrolls oh i say right yeah is there any is it like pick the scrolls and
one's captain america and you click it and it's like he's definitely a scroll correct
this website's in canon is there anything like that i don't believe so Okay I think it's just the people
Different people on the train
It's like pick this
But there's no way of knowing
Yeah right
So I did the test
Is there a Samuel L. Jackson gif of some sort?
Yeah there is
He's like patting a cat or something
Cool
Nice
But his lower half is moving
Is there any animated fire?
I don't know
There might be like a twinkling star
Nice
That's pretty good
Because she's from space
I could only look at it
For like five minutes Not even For like two minutes Yeah right Yeah like a twinkling star. Nice. That's pretty good because she's from space. I could only look at it
for like five minutes,
not even,
for like two minutes.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
It's obviously they've gone,
remember that Space Jam website?
Yes.
It's an homage.
I get it.
Yeah, yeah, cool.
This is good marketing though.
I agree.
I hate bad marketing.
But you like good marketing.
But I love good marketing
and any marketing is good marketing
in my opinion.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
As long as it's telling me to buy a product, that's what I want.
Yeah, but I just think it's quite clever.
And, you know, it gets people talking.
And then websites are like,
you'll never believe what Captain Marvel's website is and whatever.
Is it from the 90s?
Okay, you've guessed.
You believe that I knew.
We're correct.
Okay.
I figured it right out.
All right. and there's probably
some secrets to be
I bet there's some secrets
in the bloody
I bet there's some secrets
in the source code
or something
well there is
we're doing a video this week
we haven't recorded it yet
on some Avengers theories
and one of
there is a secret
in the source code
which may point to a certain villain
we might save that
is there a view counter
on the website
oh that's a good question.
Okay, I'll go back to it.
Is it just CaptainMarvel.com?
No, I think it's...
Is it GeoCities?
Did they reopen GeoCities for this?
Oh my God, imagine.
All the sites are like...
No, it's...
Yeah, it's Marvel.com slash whatever.
But the first results are like,
you'll never believe what the Captain Marvel website is.
Blurb.
Marvel's new Captain Marvel website
is a throwback to Noddy's web design.
It's a blast from the past.
Okay, I've found it.
All right, I'm ready.
There is a twinkling star.
Nice.
There is a jet plane.
What was I looking for again?
There's a guest book.
Can you sign the guest book for me?
I don't think they're real.
Oh, that's a shame.
There is a counter.
How many there?
13 million views.
That's quite a lot.
That's quite a lot, isn't it?
Anyway, I hate this. You hate it, okay, isn't it? Anyway, I hate this.
You hate it, okay.
And I respect it, but I hate it.
But you hate it.
Okay, cool.
Like you.
Thank you.
I probably just hate.
Okay, next thing.
Next thing, Mason.
Oh, there's a photo gallery.
The only inaccurate thing is they're high-res images.
They're not unbelievably pixely ones.
You should leave a message on the message board.
Maybe I will.
Yeah.
Oh, there is animated fire. This is the best best do you wish more websites were like this yes do
you really wish that no could you imagine if every website was this there's such clean interfaces
nowadays yeah no this i mean the other the the advantage this has seeing that from here is so
upset i know the advantage that this sort of website has, there's a little top secret animated gif.
Anyway, the point, what I enjoy about this is that it doesn't have,
I'm looking at it on my phone and there isn't a billion pop-ups.
I haven't opened the website and it's immediately gone.
Do you want to subscribe?
Yeah.
And I'm like, no.
I think our website does that.
We're different though.
It's genuine.
Yeah, it's genuine, exactly.
And then a little thing pops up and it's like,
do you accept these cookies? And I'm like, that's fine. And a video plays. Video plays automatically. I have to click it's genuine, exactly. And then a little thing pops up and it's like, do you accept these cookies?
And I'm like, that's fine.
And a video plays.
Video plays automatically.
I have to click it.
Oh, anyway.
I hate video playing automatically.
And often I don't know what tab it's in.
Yeah, exactly.
Sometimes it'll wait five minutes and then it'll play.
Should we add that to planetbroadcasting.com?
Yeah, definitely.
Just a new tab opens and it starts playing music.
Yeah.
Yeah, nice.
Great.
So these are all good things.
I agree.
Great.
Well, let's talk about that Avengers Endgame official image that was released it just looks like a composite it looks fake but apparently
it's real yeah it's new costumes yes and new looks for a lot of the characters but it is
pasted together so strangely that it looks like it's a photoshop job yes i mean it is because
everything is everything ultimately is a photoshop job but there were clearly photos taken on
different days
and Iron Man was probably, that's just a computer image or whatever.
Yeah, for sure.
They've slapped them all together.
I think they all look fine individually, but as a whole,
big thumbs down, Mason.
There you go.
Wow.
Actually, I don't really.
I'm indifferent.
I'm going to see the movie regardless.
You're right.
Do you think there are spoilers contained within this?
Well, there's the thing on Black Widow's wrist
that might hint to some stuff.
Time travel machine?
Yeah, we'll talk about it
in that theories video
that's coming up.
Professor Hulk?
Well, you've been
mentioning that a lot.
I'm not shutting up about it.
And I've definitely been like,
yeah, maybe.
Just humoring you, Mason.
I know, right?
Because he is,
look, we'll talk about it
in the video.
But he does look very Bruce Banner.
He's very Bruce Banner.
He's the most human-looking
version of the Hulk. He doesn't have that Neanderthal look to him. Like he does look very Bruce Banner. He's very Bruce Banner. He's the most human-looking version of the Hulk.
He doesn't have that Neanderthal look to him.
Like your mum, yeah.
Thank you.
The other thing is that...
Mr. Sunday Movies, you're going to be very mean towards your friend's mothers for no reason.
That'll be ongoing.
It's fine.
Don't even worry about it.
Apparently, the current cut of Endgame is three hours.
Okay.
They were talking about an intermission.
Yes. I love an intermission. Yes.
I love an intermission.
Do you?
It would harken back, Mason, for me personally,
when I first saw the first Iron Man in Rome,
when I could travel, when I wasn't saddled with rocks.
With family.
You're with rocks and family.
Family, the rocks of the relationship.
With rocks and metaphorical rocks.
Yeah.
In Italy, they stopped and everybody went out.
At what point
was there the intermission
it was a halfway point
I can't remember exactly
but I remember thinking
that's important
think harder
I don't remember
because was it
was it an important
narrative point of the movie
or did they just go
halfway point
there we go
no it was like
in between a scene
so it wasn't like
mid sentence
from memory
and is that
customary for all
Italian movies
I don't know.
I mean, I assume so.
But it's also not that long.
It's not that long.
That's what I thought.
So we went out and, you know, I was very poor because it was 11 years ago.
So I just stood in the foyer and didn't buy anything.
And then we went back in and finished it.
Is there a little warning chime?
Like there are two minute warning or something like that when you're supposed to go back?
Okay.
They shouted some things in Italian.
Hey!
Hey!
Come and get a pizza, they said!
Prego!
Yeah, but I was too poor to get a pizza, Mason.
Oh, wow.
I couldn't get one.
Wow.
Though you love a pizza in a cinema, don't you?
Yes.
Because you're a monster.
Yes!
Yes.
Oh, imagine, I've just had a thought.
What if one day I'm rich enough that I can just get pizza for everybody in the cinema?
Just one of the cinema employees comes in with like 30 pizzas stacked.
30 pizzas.
Tiny little stacked up pizzas.
So everyone gets a slice each?
Nobody gets a pizza.
I'm assuming.
Okay, how big is this theater?
I'm going on a weekday.
There's not that many people there.
Okay.
Yeah.
So how much are those pizzas?
A lot.
How much are they?
14 bucks?
I don't think that.
Yeah, I think something like $15 or something like that.
Okay, let's say $14.
Okay.
That's going to cost you $420.
You could do that now.
I could do that now, I guess.
I mean, you should because it's $420.
It's $420 for people I don't know.
What am I going to appear in the local paper?
Who cares?
I wouldn't eat a pizza that's a stranger bought me.
Really?
No way.
It's not like I'm bringing them in.
Somebody else is bringing them in. No, I know. I get it, but I still don't want to. I just think it's a stranger bought me. Really? No way. It's not like I'm bringing them in. Somebody else is bringing them in.
No, I know.
I get it.
But I still don't want to.
I just think it's a funny visual.
He'd have 30 very narrow little pizzas in a stack.
Because then afterwards, because you or she would be like this local hero.
Would expect people to come up and go, thanks, man.
You didn't have to do that or whatever.
I'd be like, fuck off.
I don't want your pizza.
Wow.
It's very presumptuous of you to think I'm going to eat a pizza.
I'm gluten free.
You said kill me.
Why don't you try to murder me with pizza?
Yeah.
I reject your gesture.
So if you do do it, get 29 pizzas.
Okay.
Yeah.
You're going to be laughing on the other side of your face when you don't have a pizza.
Wish you had a pizza.
Cinema pizza.
Get out of here.
They just reheat them.
No, they don't.
They make them fresh.
Make them fresh.
The base is already done. Well, that's true. Get out of here they just reheat them no they don't make them fresh make them fresh the base is already done well that's true get out of here anyway uh apparently the intermission is not
true according to the russo brothers they have they've tested in some screenings i spoke to
someone at disney uh who said that they do that they test them but they test them in-house yeah
they don't get the public in they get like family of people and employees
so that's why
this stuff never
really leaks
because you know
when they test a Fox film
they're like
it sucks
everybody hated it
everybody hates
the new X-Men movies
but these ones
don't work
that's in the press release
this movie sucks
but if you want to watch it
come in for free
yeah so
because embargoes
people sign them
but
you can say
you can just
anonymously
go on the internet
here's a funny
little thing
okay
with the Captain Marvel
website
get over it
nah but look
the Captain Marvel
website
when you go to it
on your phone
you get a little
you get a little
web address here
and it's
annihil.us
yes
annihilus
yes apparently
that's what they use
for all their Marvel stuff that what they use for all their
Marvel stuff
That's the code for all their things
But that may even hint at a larger thing
Might be a little hint
Yeah
There you go
That's fun
The guest book does work
I think
I don't think it does
Because the top one is like
All you base belong to us
Alright
I think it was that yesterday
Alright okay
Do you get it?
Yeah I get things
Yeah it's good
I'm glad you do
Anyway they're not doing the intermissions apparently
Apparently people
Nobody got up to go to the toilet For the entire thing as i've mentioned before when i go and see a movie
like this yes i don't drink from like midday upwards because i'd have to leave if it's a
movie i don't care about i'll just leave i'll just go out if it's immortal engines yeah i'll
leave four times wow so it's fine yeah just to stretch the old legs you know what i mean i know
what you're gonna get you yeah so intermission? I know what you're going to get you
so intermission or none
I mean they're not doing it but what would you prefer?
also they can get in more sessions if they don't do intermission
they don't do a 15 minute intermission
I don't want an intermission
because then you have to go back into reality
and I don't want that
I don't want the reality of the movie broken
in the final film of this
I don't want to be like halfway through
the ultimate realisation of 10 years worth of...
11.
11 years worth of movie making
and just be like,
hey, what do you reckon's going to happen?
I don't care.
I don't want your theories for the last half.
Just let it play.
James.
Come on, mate.
I could really do with a pizza.
Well, you made your choice didn't you we got 29
pizzas that's right gone uh they've also mentioned the russo brothers that they shouldn't have filmed
these back to back because it's exhausting filming two three hour movies however long they are well
you shouldn't knock back the pizzas the russo brothers i offered now you're tired and hungry
i mean i'm glad they did it this way
because we don't have to wait
two years in between.
Yes, exactly.
Oh, sorry,
that's just my son's monitor.
He had his tonsils out,
everybody.
It's a bloody wreck
over at the bloody
house,
I'll tell you that much.
Yeah, yeah.
And Claire's getting
her teeth in tomorrow.
It's all happening, mate.
It's bloody,
there's medical procedures
are plenty.
Yeah.
Well, I mean,
she had to wait
until you got your
gallstones out
I haven't done that yet
She's going to need them
For the teeth
Whittle them down
And if there's any left you could carve one
Into the shape of a sailboat
What do you think though?
Back to back is notoriously difficult
Peter Jackson did it for three
Did it twice for two different trilogies
One to great success, one to moderate success.
Well, let's make it a rule.
You can only do it, you should only do it once every 11 years.
That's fair.
Maybe that would work.
Back to the Future 2 and 3 did it.
That's true.
The Matrix 2 and 3 did it.
Boy, there sure is some mixed results, isn't there?
There really is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think Avatar, they're doing all five at once.
Incredible.
I think James Cameron maybe mentioned this this week.
I saw headlines that were like, James Cameron says Avatar is...
And I'm like, nah.
Nah.
Nah, absolutely not.
No, thank you.
But look, it's James Cameron and you never know.
Sure, he's endorsed nothing but garbage.
In the last...
10 years.
10 years or so, yeah.
But Elite is this week.
It is, yeah.
And I...
Look, we've been down on it a little bit.
And being like, look, it's probably going to bomb, but it will probably do really well in China.
Yeah.
Regardless.
And also, I don't know about you, but I've rewatched some recent anime to American live action movies recently.
And they're all really good.
They're all bad.
Yes.
None are great.
Correct.
Some are tolerable.
Some are atrocious.
Yes.
But we'll get back to anime stuff, won't we?
And et cetera.
No, I refuse.
Anything but that.
I've had enough of it.
You've had enough of it?
Yes.
But have you had enough of this, Mason?
I'm ready to hear about it.
Apparently 3% of Infinity War had no visual effects.
3%?
Yeah.
Okay. That's not a lot is it so
by process of elimination a lot of it did at least half yeah at least yeah so that's pretty good you
surprised by that no no i mean neither because i mean i mean movies these movies these days i tell
you what movies these days and kids these days exactly but there. But there's no... Substitute for loneliness.
Yep.
Is that a song?
It's a song.
There's no aphrodisiac for loneliness.
That's something like that.
I guess because in a big blockbuster movie,
there's no scene that people won't look at and go,
we could tweak that.
We could tweak that somehow.
We could tweak the lighting.
We could tweak...
The aspect ratio.
The aspect ratio.
We could tweak the amount of perspiration on them. We could tweak that lighting. We could tweak... The aspect ratio. The aspect ratio. We could tweak the amount of perspiration on them.
We could tweak that piece of hair.
We could tweak that piece of ham.
We could tweak anything, you know?
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
I mean...
They had to get rid of a lot of ham
on the set of Infinity War, yeah.
Why is that?
There was too much ham.
Craft services?
Or was that like an early inclusion?
They wanted ham in every scene. Exactly, yeah. And afterwards they went yeah this is too much ham we want no ham because thanos
was going ham you know is that true yes and then they were like well we'll just make it a metaphor
as opposed to literally all of that yeah mason pet cemetery has a trailer because it's the it's
the week of 80s horror trailer reboots or whatever apparently it is i thought there wasn't going to
be many trailers this week because of Super Bowl.
But there's heaps.
There's at least three. There's heaps now.
Pet Cemetery.
A cat.
Your cat comes back,
lures your kid under a truck.
That kid comes back,
lures you into a fight or something.
Yep.
That's the movie.
They've showed us most of the movie.
They kind of have, haven't they?
Yeah.
They've replicated the scene,
I think, which I believe is from the original,
where the character, who is currently played by John Lithgow
gets slashed across the back of the ankles, falls down the stairs.
I have seen it, but I do not remember.
Maybe that's a trope that's just been in a lot of movies.
Sure, I've seen some movies.
I mean, you don't want it to happen.
It's not the most horrifying thing of all.
Yeah, it's in Hostel, I think, as well.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know.
Didn't like that movie.
Yeah, they really have shown us the entire movie.
Yeah, that's okay because cats are notoriously scary.
Everybody knows that.
Yep.
There's this cat, right?
Sometimes my dog barks at night because I figured out why.
Because there's this cat and it just sits outside the window.
And it just sits.
It doesn't care.
It doesn't do anything.
Oh, yeah.
It was sitting outside my window and I banged on the window and it didn't even flinch.
Didn't turn around.
That's why I can't read cats, man.
I don't know what.
Yeah.
Like, isn't that scary?
I don't know.
For a cat?
Apparently not.
Do you think this cat's going to get you?
I don't know.
Not before I get it.
I could just kick it.
No, don't do that.
Okay.
Might have the strength of a full grown man.
That's true.
Actually, I won't kick it.
So, look, I don't hate cats is what I'm saying.
I just don't understand them.
I don't get them because I feel like most other animals would at least react.
Like turn around.
Sure.
Or flinch.
Yeah.
Or just do anything.
Anyway, it might have been a statue of a cat.
Yeah.
Might have been a picture of a cat you cut out of a magazine and stuck on your window.
But Pet Sematary, Jason Clarke is back. It was John Connor, now he's this guy. Yes. picture of a cat you cut out of a magazine and stuck on your window but pet cemetery yes jason
clark is back it was john connor now he's this guy yes uh that's on the poster as well it was
john connor now he's this guy and there's an arrow pointing at him so the the i think the
original movie the sun dies i don't know i don't know Yeah Also don't show people The cemetery that brings
Things back from the dead
Don't
If someone moves
Into the neighbourhood
Don't show them
The weird death
Bring back to life cemetery
Is what I'm saying
I mean I guess
But my
I guess my question is
Is there nothing else to do?
Having not seen the original
Why don't all the pets
Come back then?
Maybe they have
Oh
I don't know
Don't like that
We'll do it again for something okay sure we'll
watch it and find out the answers to this or someone will email in and tell us the answers
i agree with you on that but i mean it shouldn't be cool i mean and also what bugs me about it is
if this thing's been here for decades why has nobody corrected the spelling on the on the sign
take the sign off put a new sign on i agree why isn't that why isn't the local council put a nice printed metal sign up you know yes i agree with
you yeah yeah good lord uh we also had a shaft trailer we did have a shaft sequel to the originals
but also the samuel jackson one uh this new shaft he's not a patch on previous show no he's a real
beta male isn't he yes he is until he learns to shoot a gun and please a lady or whatever's happening in this.
I'd imagine that with the older Shaft, the grandpa Shaft, original Shaft,
he's like, you were just like that when you were a kid, Samuel L. Jackson or whatever.
Yeah, right, right.
And you learned to Shaft.
Yeah, that's right.
It's not something that's in you.
You can learn it.
That's right.
Yeah.
This looks, I know people are kind of like, this looks shit.
I'm like, this looks all right.
It's leaning towards, it seems to be very self-referential and silly.
It's not going to be the 90s or early 2000s grim version with Christian Bale as a psychopath
and whatever else happened in that movie.
Yes.
A lot of racism.
A lot of racism.
There'll be less of that, I think.
Yeah. So, yeah lot of racism. A lot of racism, but there'll be less of that, I think. Yeah, so, yeah, whatever.
I like seeing the older two, the last two,
versus the Shaft.
I'm not so sure about this new one,
because we don't know him,
I don't recognise him from anything,
but hey, the worst that can happen
is that it's an okay or bad film.
Yep.
And then there'll be a different film the next week,
and we'll barely reference it again.
That's true. That is the worst thing we'll barely reference it again that's true that is the worst
thing that happened
yes that's right
another worst thing
a meteorite strikes
the earth and we all die
that's bad too isn't it
yeah and we're in the
cinema watching a bad
version of Shaft
at the same time
you know
oh boo
yeah
we also have a
working title for the
next Terminator film
Terminator 3
slash Terminator 6
okay I'm ready to hear it
Terminator Dark Fate.
All right.
It's okay.
It's okay, yeah.
My judgment day is better.
So it was no fate.
Remember there was that poem or whatever that Kyrie recounted to Sarah?
That beat poet.
The piece of beat poetry that he did, yeah.
Exactly, yes.
Sarah, if you wouldn't mind, and she's like...
Future!
Flying chips, too many.
It's okay.
I mean, it's a working title.
What do you think?
It's probably going to be what they end up going with.
His piece of poetry has clues on how to defeat the Terminator.
And if only she listened, you know.
Doesn't that poem also change moving a movie?
I think it probably does.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There was an era when everything was dark, this, dark't it sure was dark angels dark angel uh star trek into
darkness all those other things uh look whatever okay james cameron also said that uh he's looking
at alien 3 alien 5 the era is that's bad is it no it's the entire existence of the human race okay
great yeah just the word dark and things i get you uh zero dark
30 yes seen it no it's all right okay so alien 3 alien 5 uh james cameron is apparently looking
at it the neil blomkamp version okay he's now doing the robocop yeah right it's the only thing
i want to see out of that franchise except maybe a good video game but that's hang on what are we
talking about the other what do you want to say alien alien the new new alien yeah i want to see
one with ripley and Hicks
and just discount all the other crap.
Would you be okay with them recasting all the main players?
No.
I think you could do it like Force Awakens or Shaft.
Yeah, right.
And then bring everybody back.
Because Sigourney Weaver appears to be,
as I understand, she's notoriously unreliable
in terms of doing a sequel.
Well, unreliable is not the right word.
It's just that she's been burned so many times with sequels.
And they'll be like, wasn't it...
Alien 4 is a mess because she initially wasn't going to be in it.
And then...
So they wrote it without her.
And then she was like, okay, I will be in it.
So they rewrote it back in.
And 3 was the same as well, I think.
And she was going to be in a little bit.
And there's currently a comic running which tells
the original script of the Alien 3
or whatever. So I guess
it's, but doesn't it feel like a
real shot in the dark if she's actually going to be in this?
Yes. Shot in the dark. I think she's
keen though. As far as I can tell.
And there's a whole bunch of concept art and Michael Biehn is keen.
Michael Biehn is keen.
Okay that's pretty good.
It was huge, man.
I also don't, I can't get a handle, I guess maybe because she doesn't do a lot of interviews,
I can't get a handle on Sigourney Weaver's motivation.
You know what I mean?
Like because...
I don't know, it's just...
Like why does she do it?
Why does she do...
Or not do things.
Or what projects does she get involved in and not get involved in?
Yeah, right.
You know, because she was in...
She's rich, so she's just like whatever... guess that's true i mean she was in the defenders she
was in the ghostbusters reboot for two seconds yeah like what and i like i kind of like you know
she was in chappy was she yeah she's the boss of you jackman she's like there's too many robots
you jackman i don't remember that at all not really no i'll look up her recent biography okay
great um yeah so you don't know what she does things for. Well, I guess, yeah, I mean, yeah.
I guess, I mean, she is rich.
That's a good point.
So, you know, she's at that stage where she only does stuff that interests her
or has a decent script.
Oh, she's in the new avatars, even though she died.
See?
Or whatever.
I guess she's friends with James Cameron.
That's right.
Or is she?
Aliens.
She's in Finding Dory as herself.
Okay.
Monster Calls.
Chappie.
Yep.
Exodus Gods and Kings.
I haven't seen that one yet.
Oh, man.
What a world.
I love everything about entertainment.
I think maybe it's just a function of her not doing a lot of interviews.
Yeah, you're probably right.
I think when I see a Bruce Willis or something like that, I'm like, oh, yeah.
The money.
Also, she was born in 1949.
She's like, I'm just kind of, you know. Yeah born in 1949 she's like i'm just gonna you know
yeah i've just survived the blitz come on give me a break yeah 1949 yeah good for her thank you
being born in that year she looks great she does look great uh world war z 2 that's definitely
off it's done it's done okay it was david fincher was doing it with Bradley Pitt. It's not happening anymore. Okay.
Do you care?
No.
Okay.
Well, Fincher would have made it a movie.
Interesting.
Yeah.
I believe so.
I guess that movie did have some interesting sequences in it.
You know, that final sequence where Brad Pitt's got to do a little sneaky sneak through the facility.
He has a Pepsi.
Yeah, he has a Pepsi and sneaks through the facility.
Yeah, that was fun.
Okay.
Yeah.
There's some good stuff in that movie.
You know what?
It's one of the few examples
where it was an absolute
nightmare of a film
and they reshot
the entire ending
and whatever
and it turned out okay.
Oh, I see.
Right, right, right.
Because that really happened
and it was a success.
It did reasonably well.
Do you know why
they reshot it?
Because people weren't
happy with it?
or something.
Okay, right.
Apparently they end up
in Russia.
I can't remember.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm just excited for World War Z 2.
No, wait.
It's cancelled.
So that's good.
Last bit of news.
Bob Iger had a shareholders call this week.
People were thinking there was going to be
a Star Wars title reveal.
The rumor is Balance of the Force.
Okay.
You okay with that?
If that's true or not true?
Sure.
There was that concept art.
We talked about it briefly before the show
with some people
who were in it.
It's very blurry.
It's very blurry.
Lando looks good.
Okay, great.
And Rey's wearing white
or whatever.
So yeah,
let me get a clearer look at it.
Well, isn't that a clue?
Light side?
Yeah, but Luke was wearing black
at the start of Return of the Jedi.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah, but maybe
it was just slimming.
Yeah, it's true.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
You've got to be confident
to wear white. Yeah. You know got to be confident to wear white.
You know what I mean?
I'm confident.
Because I know you wear white jeans.
You have been known to wear white jeans.
I won't wear a white jean because I'll just get a handprint on it, my own.
Yeah, right.
I'm just always covered in Vegemite and glue.
That's true, yeah.
But your famous sticky Vegemite sandwiches.
Yeah, you like them. I do, yeah. Thank your famous sticky Vegemite sandwiches. Yeah, you like them.
I do, yeah.
Thank you for your sacrifice.
No problem.
But the other thing was that apparently they're going to continue
to make R-rated films for Marvel.
Marvel, okay, yes.
Which is good, I guess.
Well, that's a broad statement.
We've decided as the film industry we're going to keep making R-rated films,
but Disney specifically.
Yeah, which makes sense.
I mean, that's the result of Deadpool, obviously.
Yeah, for sure.
So that's good that they're still going forward with those.
And the other thing is he said he was okay with licensing out to EA for the video games.
Still?
Still.
Is that because he doesn't know anything about video games?
I believe so, yeah.
I have to be.
Also, you're on a shareholders meeting.
You're not going to be like, yeah, we fucked that up.
Because he also said something interesting.
He said The Last Jedi was like a huge financial success.
And it was.
But he didn't also acknowledge that a lot of people did not like it.
Yeah.
And that maybe it contributed to some of the hate towards solar when the smaller numbers.
Not all of it, but I don't doubt that it contributed somewhat to it.
Yeah.
So it's a shareholders call.
You're not going to be like yeah
we made some mistakes
let me tell you
we made some big old mistakes
but it's
look
whatever happens
it's going to be a huge
year for Disney this year
because they've got no
Nutcracker and the Four Realms
or any of those movies
so
yeah
they'll be fine
yeah
but what about the people
who are just staying home
in anticipation of the release
of another Nutcracker movie
Nutcracker 2
still cracking
still cracking get crack another Nutcracker movie. Nutcracker 2 still crackin'.
Still crackin', get crackin'.
Nutcracker 2, get crackalackin'.
What was interesting about the EA thing was, though,
they said they were still going to license to third-party developers,
which I don't mind,
but maybe also license to some other third-party developers,
because you can.
Other than EA.
Yes.
Yeah.
So he said that they're
not good at making video games which may or may not be true i don't know i didn't play epic mickey
or its sequel yeah okay mason yes we're finally here to talk about anime adaptations western
anime adaptations we're only doing live action ones I think this might be all of them
All of the mainstream ones
Depends how many we can think of I guess
I went through the Wikipedia
What else do people want of us?
I hope they don't expect more than that
People don't do they?
We're the only two people who have access to Wikipedia
So how else would they get that information?
They couldn't simply go to Wikipedia now
and look up Western live-action remakes of anime.
And even though it's really good that the people who run that
do run it for just us.
Yeah.
I never donate.
I never do it.
I'm donating $7 million a year.
No wonder you can't afford to buy pizzas
from people in the cinemas.
Okay, so let's start with The Guyver.
I haven't seen this one.
I've seen clips of this.
I've seen both.
There are two.
Did you know that?
Like a sequel?
There's two.
The Guyver came out in 91, I believe.
Yeah.
So this is right.
This is peak.
I think this is when they were looking for superhero stuff.
Yeah, right.
Because this is post-Batman 1989.
Yes.
So I think they would like,
okay, we need anything that's a man in a big rubbery suit fighting evil.
We need some of that.
What is this?
You've mentioned it before.
Yeah.
I've seen one horrifying scene with Mark Hamill,
which we'll get to.
So, yeah.
Well, what's interesting is these movies have two
the first one's
from 1991
there's a sequel
which came in
in maybe 93 or 94
called Guyver Dark Hero
what's interesting
is that
well Mark Hamill's
in the first one
yep
but the second one
the guy who plays
the actor who played
the Guyver
is recast
okay
through a
Dark Man 2 situation it really is but the actor who played the Guyver is recast. Okay. Through a Darkman 2 situation.
It really is.
But the actor who played the Guyver in the sequel
is David Hayter, who most people will know.
The president.
Exactly.
In 24.
No, that's Dennis Haysbert.
Oh, yeah.
David Hayter is a voice actor.
He's probably best known as being Solid Snake
in the Metal Gear Solid series.
He moved away from acting, live action for the most part,
I think, to focus on voice work.
So that's where you know him from.
And then he got done by Kiefer Sutherland, also from 24.
Yes, that's right.
Oh, really?
Okay, that's interesting.
So did you see both of these recently?
No.
No, I saw them on probably VHS back in the day.
I recently re-watched some clips because I'm like,
if we're going to be talking about this, I should get back into the groove.
I also watched some clips.
The second one is probably significantly better than the first one.
I feel the draw card for the first one is Mark Hamill.
Yeah.
But you don't have to watch the first one.
I feel the second one is gorier
and the suit looks better.
It's a real Robocop 2 situation.
What's the premise of this, the Gaiva?
The premise basically is there's a corporation called Cronus.
Okay.
In the anime, it's called Cronus
and in the movie, it's called Cronus.
It doesn't matter.
It's Cronos.
Cronut.
Yeah, it's the Cronut corporation right and they're
they're they're using the profits from inventing a brand new pastry treat yes they're funneling it
into weapon systems but basically uh there are there you think they're like an earth-based
corporation but they're actually they're aliens and they've come down to i don't know take over
the world or something and some of them good, they're all bad. But they release...
Yeah, I know, exactly.
But in the anime, they release...
They lose track of these three Gaiva units,
which are like these little...
They look like landmines,
and they bond with a human in a symbiote style.
Oh, like a mech, the Predator suit.
Like a mech, the Predator suit, exactly.
And one gets in the hands of a like a high school student okay and and the other two could sort of go missing for
a while and basically he decides to do some superheroing but they want to get it back
obviously so they have their own the guy the suits or is there only the three uh there are only the
three i believe but then they send in a variety of i think they're called zoonoids they're like
uh and they send in a variety of you know think they're called zoonoids. They're like, and they send in a variety of, you know,
horrific monsters that of course he has to deal with.
In the anime, he has to deal, you know,
every episode he has to deal with a gigantic monster
that can produce big blades or enzymes
that can melt his suit or whatever.
And it sounds like something that would translate
really well to live action.
No.
The second one's way gory, if I recall.
In the opening of the first one, he like slits a guy's the in the at the in the opening of the first one he
like slits a guy's throat in the first five minutes i think okay the the best part about
the first one having re-watched some of it recently is that when obviously you know obviously
he gets he gets the um he gets the the he's a high school student and he gets the the guy the
thing and he's like i don't know you know he's just he's he's a normal guy and obviously he has to trigger this transformation the guy but and so he's accosted by like this
unbelievably stereotypical like hispanic gang yes well it's sort of it's not exclusively hispanic
but like they're all dressed like you know they've got the they've got the flannel shirt
buttoned up to the top button and they've got the bandanas they're all holding their guns sideways
They've got the flannel shirt buttoned up to the top button.
I love it.
And they've got the bandanas and they're all holding their guns sideways.
And like, and they harass him and then he turns into the guy when he beats them all up.
But it was just so... Sounds like a real Suburban Commando situation.
It's just...
Sounds like a real The Green Lantern situation where he gets accosted in the alley.
Exactly, yeah, yeah.
To get a pilot or whatever.
It's just what though?
I've lost my train of thought.
It's good.
They're so, no, they. No, they're not good.
They're not.
Explain to me.
I think I would have loved them back in the day though.
I think immediately post Batman.
Because there's nothing else.
Exactly.
I love Suburban Commando.
Okay, explain to me the scene where Mark Hamill turns into a giant cockroach.
He gets better eventually.
What?
Yeah.
Doesn't he die after that?
I think they bring him back to life.
I feel confident they bring him back to life.
It's pretty fucking horrific as well.
Even now, I'm like, whoa, this is a lot.
It's also weird because it's Mark Hamill.
I'm like, this is Luke Skywalker turning into a cockroach.
Yeah, this was...
Was it a virus?
Can I look it up?
I'll find out.
I can't remember.
Let's find out. Yeah, it's really quite graphic a virus? Can I look it up? I'll find out. I can't remember. Let's find out.
Yeah, it's really quite graphic.
And it's really well done.
It's a bit kind of The Fly-esque.
Yeah, right.
In the transformation.
Yeah.
Were you impressed by what you saw?
Yeah.
It's not all like that.
Oh.
He's experimented on and he's transformed into one of these zoonoids.
Yeah.
Which is your...
Your alien.
Your alien cockroach situation. CIA agent, it says here. That's correct, yes. Uh-huh. experimented on and he's transformed into one of these zoonoids yeah which is your yeah alien yeah
alien cockroach situation agent it says that's correct yes uh-huh i don't think it's worth a
watch though i agree uh-huh because otherwise i'll watch the whole thing i feel like i saw enough
with the scene where he turns into a cockroach i don't think you need anything else yeah right
yeah do you want to move on to the next one yes old. Old Boy. You seen it? I haven't seen it, no. You seen either? I haven't seen either version, no.
Okay.
It's quite good.
Yes.
The sequel, not sequel, the remake by Spike Lee.
Okay.
Black Klansman, another great film.
Another not as great films.
It's horrible.
It's a horrible film.
Josh Brolin is, I guess, okay.
You get, okay.
I don't want to get too much into it.
If you want to watch a good video on why this is not good,
Your Movie Sucks did a whole,
he did an extended kind of piece on
why this doesn't work comparatively to the first.
Another thought I had about the Guyver,
just before we move on,
is that the Guyver is much like a video game boss
in the sense that he has a weak spot.
His ears.
No, it's the control device in the centre of his forehead.
Oh, that's a bad spot, isn't it? It's a's a bad spot right yeah yeah at the end of the second one he fights a guy who is
who has acquired the second guy for unit so it's guy it's mutated it's guy versus mutated
yeah obviously and you know he defeats him just by pulling the thing out of his head but in the
first one if i remember correctly he headbutts a dude and that damages the control unit in his head.
Like what's...
At least put it on the back of his head.
Put it on the back of his head.
It's ridiculous.
Or under your arm or something.
Under your arm, exactly.
In case somebody goes for the tickle, then you'd be in trouble.
Then you're in big trouble.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, old boy.
Tell me about old boy.
So basically, it's about...
People probably know this, but the story of...
It's probably more well-known than the Guyver, I'd imagine.
Definitely, yeah.
It's a man and he's just kind of a schlubby kind of
drunken fool and he
for some reason he gets kidnapped and he's
in prison for I think
it's like something like 20 years.
In just an apartment. Yeah just an apartment
and he's fed the same dumplings every
day. Nice. Depending on the version he's
depending different food but in the
live action original
it's dumplings. So he obviously hates dumplings by the end action original version. It's dumplings.
Dumplings.
So he obviously hates dumplings by the end.
And so.
Well, I'd never get tired of dumplings.
So lucky for some of them, all right?
He doesn't know why he's there. What does Josh Brolin get?
He gets a variety of Asian cuisines.
Really?
He doesn't get some sort of all American thing?
Well, it's weird.
He doesn't get hungry man TV dinners or something?
It's weird because you see him being like sick of the food,
but he gets a variety of food.
Yeah.
So you wouldn't be like, I'm sick of this.
You'd be like, oh.
So it's a V for metadata situation where we're in the movie version of that.
People are like, we're tired of living in this fascist society.
Oh, that fascist society where you all live in a nice apartment,
you have a big TV and everything's great.
Huh, interesting.
And you get firework shows every now and then.
And you eat eggy in a basket or whatever it's called.
That's right.
Eggy in bread.
Yeah.
Eggy boys in bread.
We call them bullseyes in Australia.
What you do, you take two slices of bread,
you put in some cheese in the middle,
you cut a hole in it,
you put it on, you butter both sides,
you put it in a pan,
you crack an egg into it,
bit of all spice seasoning,
you flip it over,
make sure you get both sides,
cut it in half, triangles probably,
and you give that a munch, mate. Doesn't that damage the egg if you cut it in half? It's supposed to damage it, but of all spice seasoning. You flip it over and make sure you get both sides. Cut it in half, triangles probably. And you give that a munch, mate.
Doesn't that damage the egg if you cut it in half?
It's supposed to damage it, but the egg's cooked.
Yeah, no, I get it.
You don't get it.
Don't like it.
What do they call it in the movie?
Egg in a basket.
Egg in a basket.
But apparently not a thing.
No.
So anyway, he's then released all of a sudden
and it's about him trying to figure out what's happened to him.
And he befriends this younger girl
and they have a relationship or whatever.
Are you familiar with the ending?
Yes, I am.
Yeah.
Oh, should I spoil it?
Ah, yes.
Okay.
So basically he ends up sleeping with this person
and it turns out that the girl he slept with
was his daughter, his biological daughter.
And then he cuts out his own tongue
and he's mortified and whatever.
It was all an elaborate
because the dude the dude who did it was it's depending on the version because he shamed him
or whatever when he was younger when he was at school and whatever anyway the american version
hits all those beats but not well like at all right and one of the most famous sequences i
would argue that neither of them hit the well because it's a really disturbing story. It's horrible.
It's a horrible, horrible premise.
But there's a sequence where he fights a bunch of dudes in a hallway with a hammer.
If you haven't seen the movie,
you've probably seen that scene, at least on YouTube.
They do a similar thing in the new one.
And it's nowhere near as close or shot as well
or as visually interesting.
Also, in the first one,
the guy,
he is quite heavy at the start and then he loses the weight in this one.
Josh Brolin is just kind of bloated.
And then,
and then he's just not as bloated 20 years later.
Also,
he mostly just looks the same.
It's supposed to be like 20 years.
So he's supposed to be like 25 and then he's 45,
but he just looks the same role.
And it's just,
it's, it's not, it's horrible.
And it also feels like it was just like a Spike Lee,
they were like, Spike Lee will give you this amount of money,
will you make it?
And he's like, yeah.
Yeah, I'll make a Spike Lee joint.
Why wouldn't I?
Let's do this.
I think Spike Lee, obviously,
the movies that he's more passionate about are better.
Huh, interesting.
Yeah, interestingly.
I mean, Black Klansman's been nominated or whatever,
but no, I don't think you need to watch the original
if you're interested in...
So this was based on an anime or a manga?
I believe so, yeah.
One of those things.
Or a mango.
I'm sure...
Yeah, it's based on a mango.
Someone carved the story into a fruit.
Yeah, it didn't last very long because it's a mango.
Yeah, for sure.
Somebody ate that delicious mango.
Yeah.
I should look that up.
Please.
Because... Because if it's not based on an anime, it's going in the bin. It's delicious manga. Yeah. I should look that up. Please. Because...
Because if it's not based on an anime, it's going in the bin.
It's a manga, sorry.
I apologise.
Just watch the Hammer scene, I guess.
Of the original, not of the...
Of the original, yeah.
Yeah, okay.
Okay, but if you had to watch a scene from the new version,
because we're talking about Western adaptations.
Okay.
The new version?
Yes.
There's a very funny scene,
and this is, again, in the Your Movie Sucks version,
where a dad goes through and he shoots everybody,
shoots his family with a shotgun,
and it's just so bizarre.
Wait, who shoots who?
The villain's dad.
Yes.
And he just goes through,
and he's just shooting everybody in his family,
and it's unintentionally comical
huh it's very bizarre for what what what purpose it's is this after he's imprisoned the guy
no this is this is the dad yeah after he was in prison no it's a flashback to when he was a kid
because his dad shot him because there was a weird relationship in the family like the dad was
abusive and whatever and that is pretty weird if your dad shot you that would be a weird relationship with me not that part i mean prior to that it was also much weirder
okay right prior to that it was all sunshine and roses yeah what do you want to talk about next
though mason uh in terms of we could do ghost in the shell oh yeah yeah that's just popped up on
australian netflix i might give it a re-watch it's pretty dull isn't it i don't know but i could watch
individual scenes i guess i was really looking forward to the bit where she fights the tank yes and it's just not
very interesting no it's the spider tank no you're right that's what i thought would be interesting
you are correct that is true i think it does some like i know this is probably this is heresy but i
think it's it's very interesting to see some of the scenes remade in live action yeah they've
actually pulled them off quite well there's a scene where she she chases that there's a guy who's been his mind's been
altered and he's and he's she has to chase him down in the city and he's shooting at her and
and she's turned invisible and the invisible effect is terrible though it could be worse
and specifically in the episode mentioned how terrible it is yeah it's not bad no it's bad oh
it is bad no you're right it is yeah it could be bad no it's bad oh it is bad no you're right
it is yeah it could be worse that's what i'm saying okay but but that just that scene replicated
in live action i think they pulled it off quite well yeah so it was interesting to see that but
it's just a very you're right it has a softer finale for some reason it has a not a significantly
less impact. Yeah.
It's very strange.
And the characters are less engaging.
And I know she's a robot,
but I don't really... Well, it's not a robot.
She's got a human brain or whatever,
and she's really Japanese or whatever.
Yes.
From all of those things.
Yeah, they put in the loophole
of, well, she was originally Japanese.
Yeah.
And then when her body was...
When they gave her the robot suit.
When they gave her the robot suit,
it looked like Scarlett Johansson.
When maybe Michael Keaton gave her the robot suit. I don't remember who gave her the robot suit. I looked like Scarlett Johansson. When maybe Michael Keaton gave her the robot suit.
I don't remember who gave her the robot suit.
I don't think it was Michael Keaton.
I think I'm thinking of the Robocop reboot.
You're thinking of the Robocop reboot?
Yeah.
Okay, I do like the opening.
Hey, it's me, actor Michael Keaton.
I work for the Japanese police department in the future now,
which I call the present because here we are in the present.
Anyway, I got you a new robot suit.
Do you want it?
Do you want it? Do you want it?
It's like when American movie stars do ads in Japan.
Yeah.
Except he signed the wrong contract, and now he has to work in Japan
giving robot suits to former dead people who now have to work for the police.
Do you think when people make those ads,
because a lot of them are from the 90s and the early 2000s,
they didn't think they'd ever cross the shore?
Yes, absolutely.
I don't think they've...
Because there's normally somebody screaming
into the camera about a soda brand
while stars fly by them or something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I absolutely think they were like,
well, nobody could imagine technology where that is.
And I guess because, you know,
Japan is kind of insular in that way.
I think they were like, well...
Less so now. Yeah, but I think they were like... Less so now.
Yeah, but I think they're like,
well, my secret's safe with them, I think.
The whole of Japan have got to be covered.
And it just took one American tourist...
One weeaboo.
Yeah, to just pop over there and just turn the TV on
and go, oh my God,
and then just stare at the TV for the remainder of the day.
They went down the road
and they bought a very advanced video camera
and they just stared at the TV all day
until the George Clooney coffee ad came back on or whatever.
I mean, he does coffee ads now, so it's less.
It's not so much the products,
it's the way that they're delivered.
What are we talking about?
Ghost in the Shell.
I mean, we did an episode on it.
People can definitely go back and listen to that.
But yeah, especially because blade runner
came out that same year that's true yeah which had something to say it had something to say and
visually i you know because you because you look at the the original ghost in the shower it's
spectacular obviously for multiple reasons and they kind of mimic some dubbing's bad though so
bad dubbing's bad yeah but i don't think at all I think maybe because I was I felt like this
the live version
the dialogue
was delivered
in a much more
naturalistic way
and I was
and I could ease into it
a bit better
I think it had
I think it had
its pros and cons
yeah a lot of them
it's pretty
whatever I said last time
I probably stand by some of it
agreed
but a lot of this stuff
is just rushed
and they're just reading lines
and they don't know
the context of whatever
so you know.
I get it.
I get things.
Yeah.
So it's just not, like you said, it's not that interesting a premise or they don't translate the premise very well or what it is to be human.
And I was this and now I'm a different thing.
And does it change me and whatever?
And all of those things that happen.
I do like the opening scene where they're building.
That is said verbatim in that voice.
Yes, that's right.
What is it meant to be human?
Another thing.
They said Michelle.
They're building the robot body at the start and it starts with the brain
and the body gets built around it and whatever.
I think that scene's really quite good
and the music's really good.
Yes.
And we got some scenes which I believe are from Stand complex which was this tv series sequel okay there's the scene where uh
there's some robot geishas and stuff like that i think that that is scuttering about yeah i didn't
mind that bit either yeah okay it's good it's a good movie it is a great movie it's probably the
best one on this list it may very well be yeah it is although i have a soft spot for one of them
which i recently saw
okay
which I'm sure you hate
no doubt
I'm sure we'll get to it
at some point
maybe we'll see
I think you know
what I'm talking about
we might save it
until the finale
because I would like
to discuss it in depth
okay cool
why don't we do
one that you've only seen
and then we'll do
one that I've only seen
okay cool
Fist of the North Star
I think I've seen
Fist of the North Star
1995's own
yes
it's so oily.
What is this?
I can't remember.
I'm going to look up who the main actor is.
But the villain is Costas Mandilor.
Who is that?
He's an Australian actor.
But he's probably best known.
There was like a whimsical small town TV series called Picket Fences.
I remember Picket Fences.
And he's one of the cops in that.
I know him.
It was him and Lauren Holly were like a cop.
They were the only two cops in town of this quaint little town
and also just crazy, just funny little whimsical things happen.
It was an X-Files crossover.
Anyway, Costas Mandalore is in that.
And he's also like a sweaty shirtless villain in this.
Okay, right. And it's basically. There's some people in this thatless villain in this. Okay, right.
And it's basically...
There's some people in this that are...
Like Malcolm McDowell's in it.
Sure are.
Chris Penn.
Chris Penn is in it.
Is he dead?
Yeah, he died.
Okay, yeah.
Clint Howard's in it.
Yeah, Chris Penn is in it.
The guy played Rufio from Hook is in it.
Oh, Chris Penn's character wears like an elaborate leather strip mask around his face.
Love it. wears like an elaborate leather strip mask around his face love it and he's he's this horrible
horrible monster of a man and at the end he's like the costas mandalore is fighting the hero
in one room right they're having a costas mandalore's in virtuosity oh is he of course he
is it's also 1995 yeah right that well this this was his year to break break big you know absolutely
anyway in one scene the the hero and the villain are having their their spectacular kung fu battle in one
scene and like the love interest is fighting sean penn uh chris penn's character in the other room
and he's about to get the better of her and kill her and you know and then they're gonna he's gonna
go and tell the hero that he's killed the love interest or whatever but then he gets once the
one of the leather strips on his on his uh comes off and he gets caught in some gears.
And it peels all the leather binding off his head.
And that was the only thing keeping the pressure of his head down.
And so his head explodes.
Actually explodes.
Yes.
It's great.
How does it look?
Bad.
Because Fist of the North star the the anime version i can't speak to the manga version because i didn't read it but the anime
version was part of the first wave of anime that we got in australia and it was the ones that were
selected to be released in the western world i think will mark it like they were incredible
they're all incredibly gory okay and fist of the north star basically kenshiro who's the the main hero oh the mullet on the lead yeah so so kenshiro's ability
is that he is the master of this particular martial art where he can like give you a little
tappy tap and then your head explodes yes or he gives you a little tappy tap and like all your
veins burst or whatever he's one of those guys and he'd already done it to the guy with tape
around his head his head exploded no his head Because it was just like, I'll just use electrical tape.
Oh, maybe it was.
Maybe it's, yeah.
There's some holdovers from the anime that go to the movie.
Like there's a scene in one episode of the anime where, you know,
one of the villains comes up to Kenshiro and he's like,
I'm going to use this technique on you.
You won't be able to withstand this technique.
And he gives him this little tap on the sides of the head
with his thumbs.
And then Kenshiro walks away and the guy's like,
I'm going to count down.
The villain's like, I'm going to count down till 10
and then you're going to die kind of thing.
And then Kenshiro walks away.
And the guy hasn't mastered the art,
so his own head explodes.
And there's a similar version to that in,
in the movie,
except Ken Shiro comes up to this dude and gives him like this,
this unbelievably unrealistic pantomime,
like hundred hand tap to every point on his body.
And the guy doesn't stop him at any point.
No.
And he,
cause it's like,
it's like being slapped with a feather duster.
It was just like,
and then he walks away and the guy explodes.
It's pretty.
This is like the five point exploding heart thing.
Yes,
exactly.
Yeah.
Maybe this,
this is where Tarantino cribbed it from.
I don't know.
Okay.
But it's,
the martial arts is actually not that bad.
Okay.
I have to say.
How's Costas Mandalore's martial arts?
Pretty good.
Yeah.
Pretty.
He doesn't get any of the high kicks.
Sorry,
I'm going to look up the main guy because maybe he had a career in something.
His name is...
I would be willing to bet something Daniels.
Gary Daniels.
Gary Daniels, the host.
Oh, his name's Kenshiro in it.
Yeah, it is Kenshiro, yeah.
Even though he's an English actor and retired professional in amateur kickboxing.
There we go.
Okay, yep.
If I had to guess, if anybody was a martial artist in that movie, I would have said it was him.
Okay.
So his martial artist is good, but everything else is not as good.
Yeah.
Great.
And there's also the final battle is one of those turnarounds
where Costas Mandalore gets him and he hits him
with the incredible martial arts, super advanced martial arts technique,
and all the blood sprays out of,
this was a big era for like,
Blood spraying everywhere all the time.
Just imagine you were the guy that specialised in that.
You were the special effects guy in your,
and you were like,
yeah, I'm pretty good with spraying blood out of torn arteries.
The economy was recovering after the crash of 89.
Exactly.
Yeah.
You could do these things.
Exactly.
And so, you know,
he gets him on the ground and he gives him the tap
and like all his veins burst
and all his blood sprays out of his arms.
Does it look good or does it just look like a man
who's just got a whole bunch of blood pipes in him?
Yeah, it looks like that.
Good.
Like a Monty Python skit.
Then he hits the ground and then Kostas...
Oh, and also, yeah, Kostas Mandela was like...
That's his full name.
It's a great name, isn't it?
It's a world-class name.
They're fighting and he's like,
Oh, yeah, your girlfriend, she's dead.
And the man, Kenshiro's like,
and then he, you know,
it's one of those moments where,
and then he just lays into him.
He does all the things.
It's so good.
But anyway, he gets him on the ground
and the blood's spraying out
and then he's just like,
then he just gets up
and now he's 10 times more powerful.
You know, it's one of those.
It's that turnaround.
It's a Street Fighter ending. It's a Street Fighter ending.
It's a Street Fighter ending, exactly.
I love it.
Okay, that sounds like a good movie.
I'm going to learn some facts about it.
Malcolm McDowell's in this movie.
I think you mentioned that earlier.
Yes.
He's doing Tank Girl.
He's riding high off that, obviously.
Yeah, yeah.
Star Trek Generations.
The 90s were a big era for Malcolm McDowell.
Yeah, they were, weren't they?
He was doing okay.
Is this one you'd say go back to, though?
No, it's a dull watch it's dull sounds like there's a lot of good exploding stuff it was dull at the
time yeah so i cannot imagine it being good you remember it vividly you don't remember your
schooling i know right but you remember everything about because i think i was big on this sort of
stuff yeah right and there wasn't a lot And there wasn't a lot of it.
And there wasn't a lot of it, yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
You've got to get it from the video store and watch it a whole bunch of times.
You ain't wrong.
Well, while you're looking at that, do you want to quickly talk about Death Note?
Yes.
You haven't seen Death Note?
The remake.
No, I haven't, no.
See, I haven't seen the original Death Note or read.
And the reason I haven't is I should go go back because I haven't because I know the story
and look a lot of people hate this
and it's not great but I think I've said this
before on this show watching it
it feels like a
summation of a much
better story like I'm like there's some
very interesting ideas in this story
right does it feel like
you were supposed to be watching it
having already watched the original or read the original yeah it's not you don't get lost but it feels like there's
a lot in it and they brush over a lot of stuff for those who don't know by the way there's a
lot of people who love anime and manga who are listening to this or screaming stop listening
already we apologize we're not experts on this or harry potter or anything really but yeah so it's
a it's it's a kid who gets given a book and anybody who writes in the book
dies but he's given it to him by a demon yes the demon's a pretty bad bloke or he's just doing his
job he's just being a demon or whatever uh it's voiced by willem defoe and the demon in the movie
looks quite good it's like a cgi kind of thing or maybe it's a puppet i have seen snippets yeah
and it's it's a pretty i mean it's a very visually compelling design outside of the live-action movie.
But they've translated it really well.
And so this guy, the main guy,
decides that he's going to use this book to rid the world of crime and evil
and what have you.
But in doing so, some people who are close to him use it for personal gain.
And then the world's greatest detective.
Batman.
Batman.
Wow.
Yeah, he's onto him.
And he figures out, he Yeah, he's onto him.
And he figures out,
he has, who's never revealed his name,
so you can't write his name in the book.
Yeah, right.
Goes after this guy and he narrows this kid down to the school that he's at
and figures it out.
So there's a lot of stuff in it that's like,
wow, this is really,
this is an interesting premise told not very well.
If you were not aware that that was based on something else,
would you still feel that way, do you think?
Yeah, it still feels a bit lacking.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, that being said, I don't know,
because I knew it was based on something going into it.
Did you enjoy it?
I didn't hate it.
Okay.
But I think that's also because I hadn't seen,
everybody who has seen the original hates this.
So I think I'm going to outlie there,
because who would watch this and not watch the other one a lunatic yeah right idiot or someone
who doesn't have access to it yes it's probably there's a who doesn't have crunchy crunchy rolls
can we get crunchy roll people have tweeted at us and been like do you want to do you want some
crunchy roll credits and i'm like i don't know what that means i think we can get it here i'm
fairly confident it's on the internet yeah i was gonna do i was there was a point where i was gonna
do a sponsored video for it but it never came through so i was interested
to check it out because they were gonna give you money yeah because they're gonna give me money but
also there's stuff on there that i've never seen that i'm gonna give you money in kenshiro plush
dolls you squeeze them and blood comes out because i remember seeing this stuff of the original stuff
the animated stuff on the shelf as a kid but i didn't i don't know what any of it is i don't
know whether any of its sequels or yeah right it's like i don't even i didn't even know where
to start with this stuff yeah i'm at the local video store it was just kind of a blockbuster
or whatever nobody there knows anything exactly you know it's just a forward mom behind the camera
and it's often difficult because it's very it's quite rarely i think that they'll just go okay
well it's it's this series and then it's this series two. It's, you know... And also series two is often missing.
Yeah, right.
Or you can only rent like four episodes at a time.
Yeah, yeah.
Like I went in, again,
I think we've talked about Gundam in the past.
Like I have no idea where to start with that.
Gundam style, yeah.
And there's even people even emailed in
and were like, you should start with this series.
And other people, and we mentioned that on the show,
and other people emailed in and went,
don't start with that series, you idiots.
So if the fans can't agree on what series to start with,
how are we some little lads at the video store?
We don't even know.
Yeah.
I guess just at the start, just at the first one.
First one.
But oftentimes people are like, don't.
They don't even need to.
Exactly.
They haven't gotten in their groove
with the first one
so skip the first one
yeah
especially when stuff
is from the 80s
you watch it
and you're like
oh this is slow
so you stop
yeah
I think we got an email
this week
somebody said
do we want
have we ever watched
Full Metal Alchemist
no
I watched the first episode
and I couldn't get on board
with it
because you loved it so much
it was too much
of a visual treat
it's not how that works
no
I would have said that
if that were true
I can't believe
you found it that compelling I didn't though you're gonna go back to it you'll have to
because you loved it everybody said every i what what am i doing here now i'm currently watching
it on my phone uh i don't know people everybody says it's good maybe should i people listening
should i give it how many episodes should i give it four ten ten ninety ninety episodes
wow there's also a sequel i think called full metal alchemist
brotherhood should i watch that one instead what should i watch fight about it fight about it in
the comments and emails oh that's good stuff yeah anyway death note is an interesting idea
it did not great film would you say it's the best one thus far bearing in mind you haven't seen the
ones that I've
mentioned no I think
Ghost of the Shell is
probably better yeah
right yeah is that
just because you like
a sci-fi environment
more than you like a
fantasy environment
maybe it is Death
Note maybe you're
right hmm anyway this
next one is better
than all of them
disagree we're gonna
do a caravan of
garbage on it but
Dragon Ball Evolution
oh that's the one I
wanted to talk to
you about oh you want to do that last thing no I don't mind i don't mind we'll do speed racer first
okay let's do speed racer we can do it really quickly speed racer is so bright and so dull
weird right bright physically dull content wise yes it's not appealing a lot of people like it
yeah well because when i mentioned on twitter that i was watching it i got about a half an
hour in i couldn't finish it.
And I paid for it.
I paid money.
And even then I'm like, I'm throwing this money away now.
I'm okay with it.
But you've still got it there just in case, right?
No, I rented it.
No, but you've got like another 24 hours to keep watching it.
I think it's done by now.
I'm not watching it.
Okay, right.
I would only watch it for the show and I tried to.
Normally I'd finish it.
What if you do finish it and then next week you're like i've changed my tune we're
doing a full wachowski's speed racer episode we're gonna break it down frame by frame i would love to
do wachowski's episode uh but yeah but it's visually spectacular no it's not that's no but
what i'm saying is it's visually interesting no it's not but it's not compelling like you go oh
there's so much happening but it
doesn't feel like it's happening in a real universe there is such a disconnect between
the live action and the cgi in it yes because it's i know because it's a it's obviously a
conscious decision because it was only made in 2010 or whatever to to make it to make the cgi
stuff very cartoony yes but they don't feel like they're the same world.
Yeah, right.
And then sometimes it's a set, and other times it's just whatever,
Elon Musk, whatever the kid's name is.
What's his name?
Speed.
Racer.
No, the actor.
Oh.
So he's named Speed Racer.
Correct, yes.
Yeah.
But Emil Hirsch.
Yes.
And, you know, he's just turning a wheel in front of a greed screen.
You know?
And look, I think that is potentially by design.
I agree.
I'm sure people will be like, okay, well, obviously it's meant to evoke the original series,
which was camp and hokey and very earnest kind of thing in a lot of ways.
I don't think something can be camp and earnest at the same time, but it doesn't matter.
It's one of the two.
I think things probably kill.
But for me, that doesn't work at all.
It doesn't.
There's no...
Because everything's green screen,
it doesn't feel like a compelling narrative to me.
Because you look at Sin City and maybe the second one,
which I haven't seen,
which is still on your iPad or whatever.
Yes, it is.
But it's not great.
But that is clearly a cartoon world,
and it's stylized or whatever, clearly a cartoon world and you know it's stylized or
whatever but the live action and and they mesh you know and every now and then you just get like
the silhouette of a character walking but this is it always seems to be just a just a live action
matthew uh just matthew fox sitting with a mask on and oh that's right he's racer x i'm a good
racer and i got challenged to racing and i'm
but i was too good at racing so the government came after me or whatever whatever happens in it
and i just i mean look it's a really good cast it's like yeah christina ricci yeah john goodman's
in it yeah she's a good actor uh but it's god it's and they put the chimpanzee in which is good
i guess i didn't think they were going to do that. And then that shows up.
But it's...
God, it's...
I found it just intolerable as a film to watch.
Like, so boring and so flashy at the same time.
And I don't know how...
They've achieved that?
Yeah.
Or how it got made.
I mean, because it's The Matrix, obviously.
Yeah.
I think they promised a visual tour de force.
And I think they were promised... They promised... a visual tour de force and i think they were promised they they promised if i had to guess i'd say they uh promised they
would redefine the kids action i think they were like well it's trippy enough for adults and it's
fun enough for kids or something to a defarce mason wow okay i'm gonna look up some reviews
at the bottom it looks like cat in a hat like it looks that kind of like that kind of film
uh like it looks like a blues clues universe ian nathan from empire says it'll split the ranks like a pizza cutter you might
admire it as a warholian blur of pop art gawp and gasp at its hot wheels for real dynamism or get a
headache yeah that's the second one yeah yeah what else we got uh let's find out. Reception. Here we go.
How many bars?
Thank you.
You son of a bitch.
Headache-inducing special effects.
Headache is, yeah.
Yeah.
That's correct.
I mean, it was probably in 3D, wasn't it?
Almost certainly.
Stellar visual effects.
No.
Yeah.
Story and character were tossed aside towards the wearying races. That's 2008, sorry.
Wearying races. I think they were also wearying. Yeah. Okay. Cinematic tossed aside towards the wearying races. That's 2008, sorry. Wearying races.
I think they were also wearying.
Yeah.
Okay.
Cinematic pileup.
I get it.
Because speed is just like the guy, Emile Hirsch, he's just looking stern and staring
ahead as his car just flips ridiculously around this impossible track.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But do you think it's, what do you think could have improved it?
Just don't make it.
Just...
But do you think they...
I think they could have made a...
I don't know.
Maybe realer cars and realer tracks.
Real...
Because I don't remember...
I mean, they've got a real car.
He's really sitting in a car.
I just saw a green screen bit.
But I don't remember much of the original show.
But I don't remember the track looking like that.
No, I mean, mostly in Speed Rer he they would race on like open like open roads yeah thing it was like i'll cross
it was like you know uh dangerous mountainsides and stuff like that you know and is it the same
track because his brother completes the track and he this is just of what i saw i'm commenting on
this movie i haven't seen and people be like you should give it a chance. I won't. I will never go back to this.
Right.
But they're like,
he's nearly beat his brother's time.
And who did the same race like 15 years ago,
they didn't change the track.
Is everyone just racing this one track?
More safety barriers now.
There's no safety barriers.
There's one safety barrier.
Is there?
I didn't see any.
But he's such a good racer that he's like miles ahead of everybody else.
Yes.
I just, no, I think it's, But he's such a good racer that he's like miles ahead of everybody else. Yes.
No, I think it would be difficult because as a kid,
I really enjoyed watching it.
It was on at like eight in the mornings before school and I would watch Speed Racer.
But what I loved about it is because he had this novelty.
It was the most amazing car.
It had springs in the wheels and it had missiles and dinosaurs and
uh in the movie yeah some of that stuff but i guess it's very difficult to integrate that
into a somewhat realistic you couldn't make a like it's even a step beyond fast and the furious
if you put springs under your car wheels so you can leap over obstacles kind of thing you make
it a little jet boost you make a little jet booster exactly I think but it would be but then people
would be like
they've changed
to jet boosters
and the fans
are not happy
but if you're a fan
of the original
surely this is not
good for you
I would like people
to email in
and let us know
actually of all
the ones we've
talked about
I would be
because I know
people are often
you know
well a lot of people
were like
it's boring and dull
and I hate it
but there were
people who were
like I love it so it's boring and dull and I hate it. But there were people who were like, I love it.
Yeah, right.
So it's clearly not without its fans.
I'm never not on LSD, they said.
And I love this movie.
Also, that's a good question as well.
Because when I watch this, I'm like, is it for people who are on drugs?
I think it would be terrifying.
Maybe.
But maybe if you've got a group of like-minded friends all there hanging out,
you're all under a blankie, you're watching Speed Racer,
maybe you're having a great time.
Absolutely not.
If I span in a circle once and watch this, I'd vomit.
Like, there's no...
But that's because you have a lot of gallstones.
That's different.
That's my own problem, yeah.
10 seems like a lot of gallstones.
I said to him, like, is that a lot?
And he's like, yeah.
I'm like, what does that mean? Some people have 50 gallstones, I said to him, like, is that a lot? And he's like, yeah. I'm like, what does that mean?
Some people have 50 gallstones.
Yeah, maybe they do.
Anyway, this, yeah, I think there would be a way.
It's like a bag of marbles.
Yeah, I know.
Sorry.
I'm sorry for your marbles.
I think that there would be a way to do it.
But then I think you'd have to, it's that's that balancing act i think and it's the same thing that
we face with superhero movies for a long time is what how much do you strip out to make it work
within the real world but it also feels like it is part of that animated version yeah you know
what i mean there's do you you know super movies do you give them the costumes do you give them
the wacky you know cgi sidekick or do you just make it a regular guy and give him the name of the the alien character from the comic books or
whatever you know it's kind of yeah what what do you do there and this they went they took a chance
at least but they took everything out yeah like the only real thing is some sets some closed sets
and the people and everything else is just a loop-de-loop track. Yeah. And just CGI crowds yelling.
I think I saw it when it came out on DVD originally.
Yeah.
So all I recall, all the racing scenes appear in my mind.
They're just in space.
They're just in black.
The blackness of outer space.
And then there's a track in there somewhere.
So what's the worst that can happen?
He flies off the track, he flies into space.
It's fine.
He'll be fine.
God will catch him.
Exactly.
Just put it in the real world.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Do you think they'll take another stab at this?
Speed Racer?
Yeah.
No.
No, I don't think so either.
There's so much else to adapt.
Yeah.
But, you know.
Anyway, I think this next one, this last one,
they'll take another stab at.
Dragon Ball Evolution.
Yeah.
See, I'm fascinated because you're a fan of Dragon Ball.
I'm the biggest fan in the world.
Now, there was originally Dragon Ball, then there was Dragon Ball Z.
Yep.
Then there was Dragon Ball GT.
GT, which isn't canon, sort of.
And then there's a new one.
There's some movies that some count as some don't.
And there's one movie in particular.
Yeah, and then there's Dragon Ball Super.
Uh-huh.
I'm talking about there's anime movies.
So I'd never seen this before because it was not in my wheelhouse and I didn't care
so I watched
you were like
you've got to watch this
because they're going to do
a Caravan of Garbage
at some point
it's really interesting
but not in a compelling way
I'm just interested
that it got made
because it's the worst movie
ever made
it's not the worst movie
ever made
it's pretty terrible
it's pretty terrible
if you didn't know
if they changed
some of the names
and they replaced
if they changed Piccolo
from green to blue and changed his name and you didn't know this was Dragon Ball related.
I'd be like, this is a bad Dragon Ball knockoff, which is what it feels like anyway.
It does feel like it anyway, yeah.
I read that the director didn't...
What's interesting about this movie?
Did it make sense to you?
Because it borrows a lot of stuff from the original.
I mean, I think it was all fairly self-explanatory,
except how this guy got into, like, Goku.
Yeah.
First of all, he's a white guy called Goku.
Yep.
Well, he's an alien.
Well, that's true.
So he can be a white guy, I guess.
I guess.
But, I mean, the fact that...
I think somebody maybe calls him on it.
Like, why is your name Goku?
Yeah.
It's a little bit weird.
I thought there's no explanation as to how, like at the start of the movie,
it just opens on him doing karate with his grandpa.
On a string.
On a string.
On a couple of high wires.
And there's never any explanation for that.
There's no explanation for why he's being bullied in high school despite
being more or less a regular teen he's more handsome than most teenagers more handsome than
most he's also clearly 25 as are most people in this movie 25 to 35 also he's got just the worst
hair yeah this guy they sometimes try to do the goku hair yeah and other times they just just don't bother um yeah it was in more of the worlds he so
also he's terrible in this he's very shiny i'll give you that but he's got his shiny he's got a
lot of forehead i thought i had a lot of forehead he's got so much but i i it feels like they took
the wrong takes for some of these cuts yeah right like his anger is like and there's bits where he's
just clenching his fist and you see the vein pop in his head right uh-huh yeah just and it's it's apparently they were gonna give him a wig but the director
said no his hair looks a lot like goku so we'll just let it doesn't look like that at all like
yeah it's this it's it's it's it's approaching speed racer territory in the sense of like
there's some weird stylized stuff that doesn't there's a there's a
there's a moment where he he's about to go to a party and so he slicks his hair back and then it
springs up sort of which feels like that's something that would be in an in a cartoon
yeah and it would work in that situation it also doesn't spring up that much yeah exactly because
it's not it doesn't look anything like goku hair. As somebody who's not a fan of this franchise necessarily,
it doesn't look anything like...
No.
None of it really looks like anything.
None of it looks like anything.
I think the one redeeming thing from this is casting James Masters as Piccolo.
Spike from the Buffy and Angel shows.
I think that's good casting.
But everybody else is not.
Emily Ross is a good actor.
Emmy Ross, I'm sorry.
Yes.
Is a good actor.
Chow Yun-Fat. Chow Yun-Fat. I haven't seen him in something in rossum yes i'm sorry yes he's a good actor i haven't seen
him in something i love the bit where he's like ha ha ha ha ha my grandfather's dead
yeah yeah yeah yeah oh i think he's very charming i don't know what he's like in real life but he
seems like a fun dude you know this is the guy who directed the one jet lee's the one yeah which
it looks a lot like the one there's a bit where one of them fights themselves.
So I'm like, oh, this is the...
Actually, that one's right.
Is this the guy who made The One?
Like it made me think of what it is.
He's like, guys, you should get me to direct this.
What I'm good at is you get one actor and you do a mirror thing.
I'm good at the mirror thing.
And then it looks like they're fighting themselves.
What do you think about that?
I'm good at that.
I can film that
they're like we'll take it
Jason Statham's in the one
yes he is
yeah
probably
yeah
yeah look
also it's
a lot of it feels
it seems like it's dubbed
it all feels like
it's been dubbed
very badly
so and that
takes you very much
out of the
that's the
did you ever
did you ever watch
Street Fighter The Legend
of Chun-Li
the entirety of that has been re-dubbed and it doesn't it's the same thing here it doesn't a lot
of it doesn't work it does feel a lot like that movie in general because what is missing on the
day you know when you film on the day there's intonation and there's timing and there's all
sorts of stuff and when you but when you go into a sound booth i guess you can't quite match what's
happening on the screen and so it's same year 2009 there you go i thought these were felt they do feel
like of the same era yeah you're right yeah you can do it uh-huh but it's it's a skill like any
skill like any filmmaking skill right yeah like a lot of films okay things that i did like okay
uh there's a scene right at the state goes to the party goku goes to the party and
or he goes to it doesn't matter i think he goes to you know he goes to the party yeah and these
guys want to gang up in him and beat him up and he promises him 30 years he promised yes these 30
year old men want to beat him up and he probably promised his grandpa he won't fight so he lets
them all beat them beat themselves up i thought that was quite creative for a children's film i
was like that's quite fun if the lesson was if you're going to do what
like a lot of these movies do which is teach children that fighting isn't the answer then
tell them at the end that actually fighting is the answer yes that's a good way to go about it
okay yeah because fighting was the answer fighting was absolutely the answer what was the other bit
that you liked the dragon ball looks quite good does it yeah the effect okay now what was the
what was the were you when this movie came did you see
the cinemas i saw it in tanzania on a bootleg disc okay great yeah well i was gonna say well
then i'll watch it again this week yeah well what do you what do you feel like the fan reaction to
this was everyone hated it nobody likes this movie yeah it's fucking horrible yeah like i'm
you're the first person who hasn't said this is the worst thing i've ever said wow okay yeah and i don't know whether that is i just think it's a bad movie
outside of the source material because i don't care whether they adapt a good version of draggable
yeah absolutely yeah i don't give a shit but this is it's just because i think also in a lot of ways
this is it's kind of hard to adapt and also people get weird about casting yeah you know and white
washing or whatever as they should.
And I just don't know if we ever need to see it.
Some things maybe don't need to be translated.
And I don't know whether it's possible to do this, a Western version of this.
Wow.
Or any, like, I think the first thing that they should have done is hair tests.
Yeah.
The hair is really the...
I think it would have gone a long, honestly think it would have gone a long honestly it would have
gone a long way if they'd somehow managed to if anybody is thinking about making a dragon ball
movie the number one thing it's even beyond like you can get guys who are good at martial arts yeah
you can get guys that are good at acting you don't even need to you can yeah that's true you can fix
it with editing but i mean the key is to make the hairstyle look reminiscent of the cartoon series, but
also works on an actual live action human.
I've seen some good fan art, but that's different than a person walking around with that.
Exactly.
It's got to move.
It's got to move and flow.
It's got to move and flow.
Yeah.
Look, I think because the recent Dragon Ball movie that was released and that was received
very well and made a lot of money for the four minutes that it was out. Someone's going to take a run at this soon. Yeah, look, I think because the recent Dragon Ball movie that was released and that was received very well and made a lot of money
for the four minutes that it was out,
someone's going to take a run at this soon.
Yeah, for sure.
And look, it probably is possible.
I don't know.
Yeah.
But I just can't be worse than this.
Or can it?
Because people didn't think Legend of Chandra would be...
I like the bit where he turned into a monkey.
Did you expect that?
No.
Well, I mean, that's the thing because I'm sort of aware
because if i remember correctly
this was sort of based on the journey to the west so it's based on the legend of monkey
okay right which is why he goku originally has a tail i think yeah he does and then they got
rid of the tail well they get rid of the tail because if you cut the tail off he doesn't he's
not a monkey anymore okay right i didn't do that because goku doesn't have a tail so i was sort of
aware that he was based on monkey which I had
I've seen a monkey
I'm the biggest fan in the world
so I never thought
but I never thought
he'd change into monkey
into a monkey
what do you think
of that monkey effect
could have been worse I guess
what do you think
of that dragon at the end
not good
not good at all
that dragon is supposed
to be like terrifying
and like 100 feet tall
it stands in front of you
and asks you questions
like what's up
you want a wish
I'm a fucking dragon
there's none of that it's just kind of like okay up You want a wish I'm a fucking dragon There's none of that
It's just kind of like
Okay
I'll see you later
I'm a dragon
So the idea is
You have to
There's seven dragon balls
You have to collect
All the dragon balls
Once you collect
All the dragon balls
The dragon gives you a wish
And it can be anything
In the world
In the universe
Anything at all
I think it's got limits
But I think if you've been
Wished back from the dead
Once you can't do it again
Or something
I can't remember
There's limits on it
So if
The original The original cartoons when are they set?
Are they set now?
Are they set in the past?
No, it's kind of a weird future-ish.
Right.
Because there's flying stuff and whatever.
Are the Dragon Balls scattered on Earth or throughout the whole universe?
I think it depends.
Okay, right.
I think they're mostly on Earth.
Okay, right.
Look, despite being the biggest fan
I don't think I've
I haven't seen
every single episode ever
or movie
that's okay
and I haven't seen
any of Dragon Ball Super
because I feel like
if the Dragon Balls
are scattered all over
the universe
you're never gonna
well I mean
that would be a
more epic task
yes
than if
they're scattered on earth
and you've got a device
that can detect them all
and you just wander around and collect them all again and they'd be like hey can you bring this guy back from the dead as well if they're scattered on Earth and you've got a device that can detect them all and you just wander around and collect them all again
and they'd be like,
hey, can you bring this guy back from the dead as well?
And they're also...
Hey, can I have a billion dollars?
Hey, can I have a million more wishes?
I got you.
I got you, you dumbass dragon.
And also, it's weird because in the movie,
they have the Dragon Ball detector.
Yes.
But they just seem to accidentally find them anyway
a lot of the time.
They're like, oh, they're in this house that we're in
we'll do a caravan of garbage on it
please
I think that's it though
anything else?
anyway they're all bad
all these are bad
I googled Dragon Ball Evolution
top voted tags for Dragon Ball Evolution
cringeworthy
bad acting
boring awkward corny depressing
mindless plus three more what are they who knows i haven't i can't click because it's a screenshot
great yeah anyway are any of these good are we wrong no dragon ball's good isn't it oh that's
a good one it's people have a least favorite or most famous or if there's another one so dragon
ball's boring.
Also, I probably shouldn't have put Oldboy on here because of Mangus on anime,
but they're the same, aren't they?
Uh-oh.
That's why I included it.
Uh-oh.
No, no, both of us think that.
No, we don't.
Okay, only Mason thinks it.
The confusion, though,
because when anime kicked over in Australia,
the distributor was called Manga Video,
which I think confused a lot of people.
That's right.
And you're still confused to this day.
I'm not confused.
Yes. Yes, very good. I just And you're still confused to this day. I'm not confused. Yes.
Yes, very good.
I just feel like people are going to mention that.
But now you still can.
You still can.
Don't worry about it.
You probably haven't listened this far.
You probably sent the email already, which I respect.
I love it when people send a message like,
hey, what about this?
And then they're like two minutes later like,
oh, you mentioned it.
Enjoy that.
Okay, Mason, you know what it's time for?
Oh, what we're reading.
What are we going to read? What we're going we're gonna read yeah i'm doing the thing what are we reading today what are you
what are you reading i watched overlord did you it's good yes what's good about it it's kind of
like the thing sort of you know kurt russell's the of. You know, Kurt Russell's The Thing? Yes, I know Kurt Russell's The Thing.
Wyatt Russell's The Thing.
His son is the lead in it.
Is he?
One of the leads.
Interesting.
Yeah, it starts with, you think it's just going to be a...
It's one of those things where, don't look at the poster, and...
Don't listen to your friend James explain it to you in any way.
And...
La la la la, continue.
La la la la la la la.
We're both doing it.
Yeah.
So I guess minor spoilers but
everyone no don't spoil it for me no i mean just mean like it's supernatural oh you've seen the
poster right like a man with his face part missing yeah so and it's i guess it's kind of like the
thing in that way where it starts as one thing and then it becomes a different the thing oh you know
so i enjoy a premise like that and i kind of wish i didn't know that going in but it was still a
thoroughly enjoyable ride good special effects and gore and such it that. And I kind of wish I didn't know that going in, but it was still a thoroughly enjoyable ride.
Good special effects and gore and such.
It's a lower budget kind of action, sci-fi, horror movie.
But it's very good.
It's a blumhouse, right?
Is it a blumhouse?
I don't know.
Might be a bumhouse.
Got a...
Very nice.
What have you been watching?
Well, because I watched Dragon Ball Evolution
and I was so keen on going back to the Dragon Ball Evolution-iverse.
Yes.
That's actually not true.
But Emmy Rossum is in that,
so I started watching Shameless,
which is a TV series with her and William H. Macy.
And it turns out Jason Chatwin, who's Goku,
is also in Shameless.
I'd forgotten.
So they're good friends.
They're good friends, I guess.
Is that still going?
No, I think it finished a couple of years ago
okay yeah
but it's sort of
it's William H. Macy
he's kind of a deadbeat dad
and then
well he's
it's not
oh it's that one
yeah he's an alcoholic
and the family
that's bad robot
sorry
okay
and then the family
have to
all sort of
you know
all the kids
all have to
you know
pick up the slack
and be grown ups
it's good
it's based on the British series.
Okay.
Which is also good.
Which is better?
The British series.
Okay.
Or is it?
I don't know.
It always...
Anytime I watch...
There'll be an American adaptation of a British thing.
Yeah.
It's always shinier and cleaner and nicer kind of thing.
It's very rarely the opposite way around.
So I think maybe some of the edge comes off it just because it's...
And it's also...
They've got better cameras.
Yeah, they've got better cameras.
It's less foggy.
And also, yes, exactly.
A British series is not afraid to cast people
who are not Hollywood handsome at all times.
And I think that works better in...
If you're like, okay, well, it's a family and they're not doing so well and they're you know they're they're just they're regular they're
regular people yeah you can make them look like regular people whereas they have to go okay well
let's put emmy rossum in this justin chatwin and emily rossum brother and sister in that
in shameless no okay no there he he meets her in a nightclub and then he spends like two or three seasons attempting
to date her.
And he does.
Briefly.
Great.
Yeah, I know, right.
There you go.
Yeah.
Good time, Sean.
If you wear a girl down enough, she'll briefly date you.
Yeah, that's right.
It's a good message.
Lesson learned, huh?
Good message.
Pretty great.
Anything else?
I think that's all.
I should have gotten to Overlord and I didn't.
No, you still can.
No, I won't. It's available. You can download it. I should have gotten to Overlord and I didn't. No, you still can. No, I won't.
It's available.
I will.
I'll do it tomorrow probably.
Nice.
Yeah, it's well worth it.
Letters, Mason.
Let's do some letters.
Let's talk about letters.
The classic one was letters, oh letters.
We love you.
Some letters, they're only a day away.
I know they're here right now, we're going to do letters
You're so into that, Mason
I'm into it
Throwing up the horns
Throwing up the bloody horns
Look, if you want to throw the horn this way
Don't say it like that
You can hashtag Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter
Or send a Gmail over to weeklyplanetpod.gmail.com
Or as this week Mason has done
He's pulled something from the Planet Broadcasting
Great Mates group. I absolutely have
on Facebook if you join up if you like
there's so many members. It's free?
It's free. But what if
it weren't free? We'd be rich. Well we're thinking of that
What? No
It's a Facebook group. Yeah it's exactly
I have this from Hugo Buckley
Do you feel there are any directors who have
made films that are both 10 out of 10 and 1 out of 10 like they've made like like they've made two
movies one of which is incredible and one of which is the worst he'd have to say tim burton
and m night sharm elan i don't think any of m night sharm i haven't seen all of them but i
don't think i've seen a one out of him you've never seen it have you seen a tan though you think yeah i think i'm break up non-breakable i think the success is a 10 okay right yeah oh what's up
there if it's not a 10 it's a right it's a 9.2 uh-huh yep which is pretty good uh the wachowskis
well they've made the matrix obviously and everything else is a four or below right
which we discussed earlier and i feel like again for anybody who doesn't know
there's a scene in the first matrix which is line for line verbatim a scene from a dc vertigo series
called the invisibles by um by grant morrison yeah and i and which makes me wonder if the first
movie isn't all isn't just a pastiche of other things they read yeah or saw
that they put together and we just don't know what they are or like the people that i'm sure
somebody's pieced it together somebody might have but that or that just don't have the means to sue
multi-billion dollar corporation yes warner brothers and so they just haven't brought it up
which would and i'm not saying i should have sued them after justice league when they're weak
because now they've got aquaman so yeah it's too late there was the window and it closed um but maybe after the trench it's like
wearing a girl down exactly but i mean i'm not look i'm not saying that definitely did happen
i'm just not ruling it out yeah that they that which but it does explain why everything else
they've made since then has been worse and why this, especially the second two matrix movies are just this hodgepodge of terrible
dialogue and nonsense.
Non-connected action sequences.
Yeah.
Because they were like,
and then there's mechs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It feels like the matrix sequels were made by somebody who didn't understand
the first matrix.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The animatrix though,
there's some pretty good stuff in there.
So on the, in there so on the
on the thread
Ethan Harrison
said
David Fincher
if you can't
if you count Alien 3
even though he basically
didn't direct it
I don't think that's a 1
yeah
it's not great
but it's not a 1
I think it's like a 5
look we don't have to say
look
who's directed
both good and bad things
yeah
but I mean it's
you know
I guess
pretty much every director
well that's true
but I mean it's
it's interest like there are some people every director well that's true but I mean it's it's interest
like there are some people
who have
has Spielberg produced a one
probably not
directed a one
I mean we know
we know
somebody directed the one
yes
and then he went and directed
Dragon Ball Evolution
so that's a one and a ten
that's true
Ethan went on to say
also Danny Boyle
made The Beach
which is atrocious
and Sunshine which we all know is the greatest film ever made that's a good point but I Danny Boyle made The Beach which is atrocious and Sunshine
which we all know
is the greatest film ever made
that's a good point
but I actually don't mind The Beach
yeah
I think the Danny Boyle
one about hypnosis
isn't that good
with James McAvoy
oh what's that called again?
Hypnosis Man
I don't think it's called that
he's got your secrets in his mind
oh yeah actually you're right
I don't remember what it's called
but I really like it
what else is there on that thread?
what else have people got?
it's called Blatty Far Down
it's interesting do you think it's often the case of a director will make a 10 and then else is there on that thread? What else have people got? It's interesting.
Do you think it's often the case of a director will make a 10 and then never make a movie that good?
Yeah.
I mean, it could very well be, you know, they say with musicians, difficult second album syndrome.
Yeah. Where all the good ideas went into the first one.
But then you look at like Mad Max Fury Road.
Yes.
Which is maybe not George Miller's Best movie
It might be George Miller's
Best movie
I think it is
Yeah
But also he had
Literally decades
To
Yes
To revisit
That
That universe
So
There was news this week
Actually that might be
Coming back
They might be making a sequel
But everyone's suing
Each other over that
Or whatever
Yeah
So I don't know
What else is in the thread Mason
that's fine
let's bloody find out
how come you haven't
opened it up immediately
I forgot things
you dumbass
okay let's see
actually Robert Tribbick
has said Steven Spielberg
you get Schindler's List
and other stuff that he's done
sure
and Indiana Jones 4
was that a 1
what would you
what would you call it
and I don't mean
I don't necessarily mean
in a vacuum
I mean as compared to Indiana Jones' 1 through 3.
It's pretty bad, right?
It's pretty bad, but I think the first 15 minutes are pretty okay.
It's a good...
So that bumps it up to what?
To at least a 2 or 3.
At least a 2.
I think it's probably a 4.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Tobias has said, Bryan Singer, bad bloke brian singer terrible uh the usual
suspects x-men apocalypse yeah it's not great is it no it's boring then would you just that count
that no i'd give it a one because i'm because it's it's it's on the back of a series that is just
bleeding out and instead of doing anything to revitalize it they brought the same guy in to
do the same stuff. Yes.
And it's just dreary and nonsensical.
And there's a man who can cut heads off with sand.
But he doesn't.
And then it's just metal flying around for the last 20 minutes.
Now, that movie's a one.
Do you also think Superman Returns is a one?
Yes.
Okay.
Because it's so sad and dreary.
What about Valkyrie?
That's a four.
Okay.
What about Jack the Giant Slayer?
That is not good.
Okay, there we go.
What else we got?
Justin said Kevin Smith made Clerks and Cop Out.
To me, Clerks is not a 10, but I see where he's going with that.
Cop Out is definitely a one.
Yeah.
But you don't think Clerks is a 10?
No.
Considering how they made that, it's pretty spectacular.
That's true.
Kev marlow suggested
joel schumacher batman and robin and tiger land yeah batman robin's not a one though i don't think
it's i think it's i don't think it's a one i think i think in the context of let's make a movie that
is less nightmarish than batman returns and he's more batman-y and i think they went okay well
let's make it like the 60s let's make it campy and stupid. I think at the time I was upset by it, but I think in retrospect,
I'm like, well, this is absolutely an acceptable version of the Batman mythos
to make it so stupid and technicolor.
And now they're not good anymore.
Yeah, exactly.
Those two.
Those things, yeah.
You're upset they weren't good anymore.
Any others, or should I read the next thing?
I'm trying.
Let me think of one off the top of my actual head.
Okay.
How's that sound? I love the sound of that what about john carpenter he's done like the thing he did the thing he's done like ghosts from mars or ghosts of oh yeah right right what
about peter jackson yeah okay i mean and even even that within the same within the same universe he
did he did and look i probably wouldn't call them a 10, but the Lord of the Rings movies are technically amazing
and it's astounding that they exist.
Yes.
And then he made...
Well, I haven't seen all the Hobbit movies,
but I've seen the third one, which makes...
But you didn't hate that.
You were like, that was okay.
Yeah, but...
It's not good, though, is it?
It's a great movie.
I don't think I did like it.
Did I like it?
I remember you thought it was okay
and you were like,
it was okay to revisit this world or whatever.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
But clearly you don't remember anything about it.
I don't remember anything about it.
Yeah.
No, I don't like those movies.
I mean, those movies are, I guess they are, I don't know if they're a one,
but they're, God, they're a chore.
Yeah, right.
God, there's a lot of them.
There's a lot of minutes in those movies.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Okay.
So looking at.
Oh, Shane Black. You were going to Iron Man 3? Oh, Predator. Yeah. of them there's a lot of minutes in those movies yeah right yeah okay so looking at oh shane black you're gonna iron man 3 oh predator yeah yeah and anything kiss kiss bang bang that's probably not a 10 but that's enjoyable yeah again that's a guy who can who can if it's
just guys doing dialogue yeah and roughhousing lethal weapon movies yeah i know it's still but
i mean uh you know if he's if it's just guys having a roughhouse
and having witty banter, the nice guys, they're good movies.
But introduce anything sci-fi and he's just...
He doesn't understand laces.
He doesn't know what he's going on with.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm looking up examples here and people are giving like Hook and things.
I think Hook's okay.
What's the...
Ridley Scott's been done some tens and ones.
Yeah, I agree.
Robin Hood is atrocious
Is it more a case of though
A director
Will have
They'll produce all good movies
And then they'll do a real stinker
And then we know them best for that
Maybe
Sometimes it gets forgotten
I'm sure
What's a bad Scorsese film?
Did he do Hugo?
I didn't like Hugo.
I know it's about the birth of cinema, et cetera.
Yeah, right.
I did not like it.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Well, he did The Godfather 3, which I haven't seen.
But people consider that bad as a film.
But it's your favorite film, isn't it?
No.
Oh, okay.
That'll do it? I think okay. That'll do it?
I think so, that'll do it.
We should move it along.
Okay.
Next up we've got from Lucas, a tweet, hashtag weeklyplanetpod.
We know that Thomas Wayne will have a big part in the new Joker movie.
Does that mean that in the universe the Joker is almost 40 years older than Bruce Wayne?
Or do you see another way this could turn out?
I don't know if there is a Bruce Wayne in this universe yet.
Also, Jack Nicholson is 40 years older than Michaelael he's probably nice probably 10 yeah right yeah i'm maybe 20
something like that yeah yeah i i don't think they're gonna care about like i don't i don't
think they've thought ahead enough in this universe i think you don't think it's yeah
it's not gonna we're not gonna get three movies in and then Batman shows up. No, absolutely not. And I also think that there might have been an editorial edict,
don't put Batman in this,
but you have to introduce some Batman-ish elements.
And so they went, okay, Thomas Wayne,
that's as far away as you can get it kind of thing.
Wayne Tower.
Wayne Tower's in this.
A clock also, just a clock tower
exactly whatever yeah yeah do you reckon there'll be a bit where thomas wayne's like man i got a
big cave under my house i don't do anything with it though fill it with tennis balls
every day i go down there and i empty one of those tins of tennis balls i just pour it in there
you know it's gonna take me forever but i'm rich and I can... I'm rich and I'm going to live forever. That's right.
I'm just eccentric, okay?
Yeah.
No, I don't think it's...
I mean, maybe.
Maybe they'll be like, look, it's little Bruce Wayne.
And then into the Joker 3, Bruce Wayne is there.
He's teary over the death of his parents and he's just got a big broom and he's shoving
tennis balls out.
He's got one of those tennis ball nets.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Like a pool scooper.
For sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Look, maybe it'll be like...
Also, Bruce Wayne, we don't know yet
maybe bruce wayne is 12 in these movies yeah we don't know because alec baldwin was originally
supposed to be his father and so he could easily have like a 15 year old son or whatever that's
true yeah we don't know yet at this point yeah this is a question for you specifically from
tom benjamin at wikipedia brown that's you have you given up on your dream of being the hey i'm walking here
guy you've given up on that dream mason i think i could still do it hey asshole yeah exactly yeah
i think i could be that guy if maybe you need to be that guy in real life first oh and then i'm
maybe i'm in a viral video yeah where i'm shouting profanities
on on on yeah then you get hired or whatever then you get hired based on that
yeah it's the hey asshole guy now he's in now he's in avengers endgame he's got him now he's
got a bloody autotune song yes uh look i think i think the key is if you want it you have to go
and get it that's true thus far i've not attempted to go and get a few offers of like to be in like
some some comics and things haven't you yes like but but you haven't
had any big movie deals yet no nothing nothing as of yet interesting it's interesting is it a dead
trope though is that do you think that's the case i mean that's not why you haven't been contacted
no it's a dead trope no but do you think it's a dead i think i've been blacklisted by hollywood
for being too real is it being is it a dead trope yeah maybe I don't know I haven't seen it in a while
I haven't seen it in a while either
so maybe it's ripe for the return
the last one I remember it from
is Terminator 3
where he goes
hey asshole
or whatever
John Connor hits the car
or whatever
but yeah
yeah look I think
I'm going to have to get out there
I'm going to have to tweet at some
famous directors
and ask them
please do
who would you hit up first
Christopher Nolan who's approachable is the question I think none of them they're all auteurs Mason famous directors and ask them. Please do. Who would you hit up first?
Christopher Nolan.
Who's approachable is the question, I think.
None of them.
They're all auteurs, Mason.
Yeah, they are all auteurs, aren't they?
Yeah.
Edgar Wright, I guess I could tweet at him.
You met him.
That's true.
Yeah.
Yeah, you harass him.
Yeah, I'll harass him.
Endlessly.
I will. I met Lee when I was a friend of mine.
Now I get it.
I could ask him for you.
If you could, thank you.
Yeah.
Ask him in private.
Just text him.
Okay.
I will.
I definitely have his number. Okay, great. Cool. Cool, thanks. Great. That's the show, though. Yes Yeah. Ask him in private. Just text him. Okay. I will. I definitely have his number.
Okay, great.
Cool.
Cool.
Thanks.
Great.
That's the show though.
Yes.
Bit of a longer one.
I hope people think that's okay.
Felt like a bit of a shorter one to me.
Well, Mason, it's always a chore for me.
Go on.
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It's my face.
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It's just my regular face, mate.
You're just making a regular face.
That's disturbing.
Do you like it?
Stop making your weird face.
It's my regular face.
No, no.
Every other face I do is me pulling a face.
Okay, wow.
Do you like it?
Yeah, it's good.
You look handsome.
Let's see if you want to support the show.
You can go to patreon.com slash MrSundayMovies
if you want to chuck in a buck.
Cups a lot.
You were saying we're breaking ground on the studio.
We're doing some more stuff in there.
Tuesdays.
They're coming in earlier.
The big build.
I've got to move a whole lot of shit out there.
I've got a whole lot of weights in there.
You've got to move your bicycle.
Oh, that bike.
And that's all right because you can't lift those weights.
That's why they're in there.
You physically can't lift them.
I can't move.
You're going to have to get a big man in to move your weights.
I'm thinking about do I sell them? I don't want to sell them because then I have to move your weights. I'm thinking about, do I sell them?
I don't want to sell them because then I have to-
Buy them again.
I've sold stuff on Gumtree before and it's just endless questions from idiots.
Is it enough?
What if I bring a-
It's annoying.
It's a lot of people going, you've lifted this for $50.
Would you sell it for $4?
Oh, God, yeah.
Mostly, if I put something on there, I just want to get rid of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I think I might just leave them
out the front
or throw them
at a bus
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We still have the USB tape, Best of the Week on Planet.
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They're going like hot cakes, the hottest of cakes in a cold environment.
Hot cakes on a hot day.
We have a new clothing sponsor next week.
Oh, we do?
That's great.
One of our previous sponsors, Mack Weldon, they've gone radio silent on us.
That's right.
It's interesting.
Because they switch, like the person who's in charge of the, this happens every now and
then, they'll switch the account to a different person or whatever, and then you just, they're
dead.
They don't talk to you anymore.
They don't talk to us anymore.
We still stand by our our bloody
endorsement of them i but i look they've been a great sponsor over the years and they've you
know they've helped this show a lot uh but just so people don't freak out if we have a different
because oh no i mean sometimes when we change sponsors or whatever people are like we you know
what about this previous thing they email in should i should I burn all my shirts? Yes. You should. They're dead to us.
Yeah, but this new clothing company is also very good.
Very cool.
So, yeah.
I don't know if that's next week or week after.
People don't care about sponsors.
Why am I even bringing this up?
Next week, we're going to be talking about Battle Angel Alita, right?
Oh, no, maybe.
What if it's good, though?
We don't know yet.
If it's good, I'll be happy.
If it's awful, I'll also be happy.
And the listeners will be happy because people love it when you rag on something that's bad.
But if it's fine, I'm going to be very sad.
Yes, I agree with you on that.
Well, I feel like that's what it's going to be.
Oh, no.
All right.
All right, great stuff.
That's everything, isn't it?
That is everything.
Everyone have a wonderful week.
Is that your new sign-off?
It's very positive.
It's out of character for you.
I don't like it either,
now that you've said that.
What would you prefer me to say?
Hey everybody,
just get through if you can.
Hey everybody,
go sit in a wet fart.
That seems like you.
I've never told everybody
to sit in a wet fart.
But you always think it,
don't you?
Yeah.
Yeah, see?
Good.
That's what I thought.
Grab that jam, you guys.
We'll see you next week.
Sit in a wet fart.
See, it works, doesn doesn't it It's perfect
It is perfect
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