The Weekly Planet - 277 The Hellboy Movies
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Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet. We're in a new space.
I've immediately... It's not a good omen, is what I'm saying. No, it's the best omen.
Weekly Planet.
No, that's what they say.
That's what my grandmother always used to say.
If you mess up the intro of a podcast in your new podcasting space the first time you do it,
you're going to mess up the podcast intro every day for the year.
Okay.
Is it like breaking a leg in stage as well? It's a good thing when you're like, break your legs.
Yeah.
Traditionally, it's, hey, hope your Patreon gets cancelled.
That's the podcast equivalent of break a leg, yeah.
This is the show where we talk movies and comics and TV shows.
My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday.
With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason.
We're in the new space.
That's right.
So it's not finished yet.
We don't have a video-related set yet. But we've decided to move the stuff into the new space. So we've got a the new space. That's right. So it's not finished yet. We don't have a video related set yet.
But we've decided to move the stuff into the new space.
So we've got a whole new dynamic.
For the purposes of sound quality and sitting under an air conditioner.
That's absolutely right.
Yeah.
So we've got a lot of space to the side.
And ordinarily you'd be at the desk and I'm on a couch.
But now the desk has been, there's no couch.
The desk has been positioned lengthways and we're across it yeah like we're not
across it as in we know what we're doing no absolutely not but we are well i'm at one end
and you're at the other end we're like two we're like a we're like a really rich couple that don't
get along anymore at two ends of the long dining table like when bruce wayne invites vicky vale
over for dinner yes good reference i it. We're back on track.
Yeah.
So it's a whole new dynamic.
So we're directly across from each other now.
I'm trying not to look directly at you.
And also the dog doesn't know what's what.
The dog has no couch to leap on anymore.
No.
No frames of reference.
She attempted to lick the carpet like she does with every cloth item we own.
Is she under you?
Yeah, she's under my feet now.
Okay, yeah. She was sitting in the sun for a little bit. So she's got space. She's got stuff to do she under you yeah she's under my feet now okay yeah
she was sitting in the sun
for a little bit
so she's got space
she's got stuff to do
anyway I feel good about this
me too
yes
do you feel good about this though
hello
Star Wars news
no
okay
why would I
this isn't easing me
into the new space at all
I think this is good news
regardless of whether
you're a Star Wars fan or not
you should have just
you should have just you should have just
softballed me in
with like
just stuff that I'm
already comfortable with
you'd be like
hey did you hear
that
about something about
comic books from the 90s
and I'd be like
I have heard that
I'm very comfortable
with those things
but I think this is good news
here's some Savage Dragon news
it's still going
it's still going somehow
Taika Waititi this is good news all round,
is voicing IG-88 in The Mandalorian.
Or one of the versions of IG-88
because in Legends there's like at least four.
Yeah, right.
But maybe he's the oddball New Zealand one.
Or maybe he's just a...
Maybe just regular IG-88.
What do you think about that?
Like Korg's voice, but it's IG-88.
I think you could put a fun little spin on it. i think there's probably like a i am i absolutely reckon there'd be like an ig88 bible like every character would have a bible and it'd
be like he he acts like this and he reacts like this and he talks like this and i think he's gone
okay i can take that and i can do a little spin on it which i think would be good he's talked about
before because he is directing an episode or a couple of episodes that you can't take the humor as far as
you would with say thor there's like star wars humor and you you we hear this all the time from
people about the last jedi like there's definitely a line and i believe there is i don't think you
can just do anything yeah right and he said it's it's the line is different than a marvel movie
yeah for sure right yeah exactly it can't be it can't slip over in this kind of nod-wink,
self-parody kind of thing.
Are you looking forward to seeing this broom of a robot?
Yeah.
Clanking about?
I guess so.
I'd like to see.
Well, I mean, did he get any action beats in any of the other movies?
No, he stood there.
He stood there.
And then I think his corpse shows up in Return of the Jedi
in the junk room down the bottom.
Yeah.
Because I guess at the time the technology wasn't available for him to do anything absolutely
not because it was again he was just a was there was it was just a static figure it didn't move
i think also he's a he might even be a piece of like the bar in the first star wars oh and they've
they've repurposed like the head is like Like the head is like an urn or something.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, they just used anything and everything in those movies.
So, yeah.
I think this is great.
And it's a fun little picture.
There's also a Mandalorian Iron Man helmet just sitting there, which is also, you know,
not relevant, but it's cool.
It's a cool thing.
It is cool.
Here's a cool thing, though.
I'm ready.
Do you love Bill and... Is it us because the air conditioning is on yes well i just turned
just a fan now because it's i don't know we got to get used to these settings mason
this is mostly going to be us changing settings on the air conditioner isn't it like do we leave
the door open do we close the door shoes off or shoes on shoes looks like a shoes off space
looks like yeah yeah i you said which side do you want?
This may change in the future, but I wanted the side where I can see both doors.
Yes.
Born identity style.
I want to know where all the exits are just in case.
You want to know what's coming.
And also, if it starts raining, I'm going to go get my shoes.
Good point.
Great point.
Bill and Ted's.
I've actually written Bill and T's.
We all know what you mean.
Yes.
Bill and Ted 3 Face the Music has a release date of August 2020 okay cool cool yeah I love those
movies did you watch that little video I didn't I know I also did it's one of those things like
Alex Winter and Keanu Reeves yeah okay yeah right I want to see it I will see it I'm very excited
but no yeah it showed up a whole bunch of times on twitter for me and i just was like they're they're there and they're making bill and ted-esque gestures and i'll get to that
eventually and i didn't and they've aged spectacularly they're probably saying dude a lot
i hope they are one of the writers for the original bill and ted he put up on twitter a whole bunch of
like pre bill and ted like notes and sketch ideas i've seen some of that and it was really kind of fascinating
apparently they were
they were characters
that he and a friend
of his performed
sort of live on stage
a bunch of times
oh really
okay
and then
they were like
we should write a movie
and then they were like
let's bring Bill and Ted
into this kind of thing
and originally Hitler
was going to be in it
so
but they went with
Genghis Khan instead
Genghis Khan
still a murderer
but
they went with Napoleon
instead okay right he's more fun and short and he's further away yes But they went with Genghis Khan instead? With Genghis Khan. Still a murderer, but... They went with Napoleon instead.
Okay, right.
Because he's, you know...
He's more fun and short.
He's more fun and he's further away in time to laugh at.
Yeah, that's it.
But yeah, that's kind of fascinating.
I can't remember the guy's name, but if you look that up, that'll be...
I remember seeing something about the original Time Machine, but I don't remember what that was.
I can't remember.
But I love the idea of the Time Machine.
They've clearly gone the anti-Doctor Who. You just cram into a box.
Yeah, right.
And I really like the second one.
I know that's not...
It's probably more beloved now than it was at the time.
I think so too.
But I think it's great.
It's got some really interesting ideas in it.
And it's not just the same thing of like,
let's grab so-and-so through history.
I agree.
It's the afterlife and robots and doubles and whatever.
It's great.
It's really good.
But if we're talking Keanu Reeves...
The newest trailer for John Wick 3.
Jonathan Wick.
Perineum.
That's right.
We'll never say the correct name.
Never, ever.
Why would we?
John Wick's not real.
He can't get us.
So we can say whatever we want.
Exactly.
We have a dog too.
He can't get too mad at us.
My dog would be torn in half by John Wick's dog. It would be such a dog too. Yeah, we've got a dog. He can't get too mad at us. My dog would be torn in half by John Wick's dog.
It would be such a short fight.
These take place over the course of a week, I guess, these movies?
What, one, two, and three?
Well, they must because one and two are back to back.
And then this is when he escapes, when everyone's after him.
And he's like, I'm going to kill everybody.
I'll do it.
I'm John Wick.
Wow.
It's a tough week.
Yeah, that's right.
And there's the Matrix guns
lots of guns reference
yeah okay yeah
but he's not the one
who says that in the Matrix
or does he
no he is
no he does yeah
it sounds weird
in another movie right
when he said it
I'm like
that's very jarring
yeah
yeah
that'd be
hopefully the follow up
is he's like
guns
lots of guns
and the guy's like
we have two guns
and this backpack
it's got two guns in it
that's all i could get for you sorry no bullets i know you're expecting more guns yeah you'll have
to buy your own bullets or fashion your own yeah so i kind of was on board late to john wick i came
i think my kid was born that year or something so i didn't think you're gonna say my kid introduced
me to john yeah he loved it i don't think i've seen either of these are the movies actually the
first two i've definitely seen this one in the movies.
I have also not seen either of them at the movies.
How did we miss them?
I don't know.
Were they big in Australia?
They were late, I think, actually.
At least one of them was late.
So, yeah.
But, look, if...
And, look, this probably isn't a good way to go about things,
but if it's the same as the other two, action-wise,
that's good enough for me.
Pretty good, yeah. Just a guy running through a nightclub. But if it's the same as the other two action-wise, that's good enough for me. Pretty good, yeah.
Just a guy running through a nightclub.
He punches you with a gun,
then he shoots you with a gun.
Shoots you with a gun, exactly.
You get hit with a gun and you're like,
oh, thank God.
Oh, what a relief.
He had that gun and I thought he was going to shoot me.
Ow!
My brains!
He did shoot me with a gun.
He did shoot me in the head.
Okay, I've written here,
Is This Anything? Right? Okay. Dog Wick. It's a spin-off. Yes. He did shoot me with a gun. He did shoot me in the head. Okay, I've written here, is this anything, right?
Okay.
Dog wick.
It's a spin-off.
Yes.
It's just the dog, and he goes through the animal underworld.
It's called Dog Wick.
It's called Dog Wick.
I like it.
Or John Dog.
That's probably not as good.
Dog Dog?
It's called Dog Dog.
John Wick, but it's his dog.
What about that?
Okay, so wait.
Is he...
Okay, so I like the idea a lot.
I like the idea a lot.
Is he a dog with guns?
Or is he just a dog attacking other dogs?
Because that's real gruesome.
That's different, isn't it?
Yeah.
That's a different...
See, I don't want a cats and dogs situation where they're all...
You know, it's all CGI cats doing cartwheels or whatever.
How about this, though? How about John Wick takes his dog to the dog park yep and he has to and john
wick then has to go and do like get a hot dog or something at the hot dog cart and in the meantime
john wick's dog sees some sort of dog related injustice yeah relating to the other dogs yeah
but it's not like they're not they don't talk or anything okay this is a silent film okay film. Okay. This is like, remember, you know, at the start of Who Framed Roger Rabbit, there was that
weird baby short.
Do you remember that?
Yeah.
And that baby was really Al Pacino or something.
Yes.
I can't remember who voiced it.
This is going to be like a Warner Brothers short at the front of John Wick 4.
Yeah.
It's called Dog Wick.
Or John Dog.
Or Dog Dog.
Or Dog Dog.
But then he, so then it's sort of like he has to like, there's no overt violence.
Okay.
Except at the end when he tears another dog's throat out.
He'll have to.
But he sees another dog bullying.
He sees one dog bullying all the other dogs.
Yeah.
And he's like, well, this will not stand because I'm John Wick's dog.
Dog Wick.
John Dogg.
Dog Dogg.
Great.
I would like it to be also like, are you familiar with Phineas and Ferb?
Sort of
They've got a pet
It's a cartoon
They've got a pet platypus
And it doesn't do anything
But it's a secret agent
So it goes down a little tube
And then it's got a little hat
And it goes and stops a world ending plot
So while they're doing
Like Jughead's dog hot dog
Is that what Jughead's dog hot dog does?
Okay interesting
Maybe a Perry the Platypus
Jughead dog dog spin off Yes Get it all together Jughead's dog hot dog does? Okay, interesting. Maybe a Perry the Platypus Jughead dog dog spin-off.
Yes.
Get it all together.
Jughead's got a TARDIS.
Speaking of the TARDIS, he's got a TARDIS-like dog house.
It's got all sorts of stuff in it.
All sorts of stuff in it.
Man, Archie goes everywhere, doesn't he?
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, Jughead's busy being in the Time Police, obviously.
I understand that.
I know exactly what you mean.
I didn't just hear that for the first time now.
Okay, good.
I know things that you know too.
Yeah, that's right.
Anyway, dog wick.
I'm on board with dog wick.
Okay, good.
So I reckon eventually the bully dog is going to end up pushed into a pond or something like that.
Okay, cool.
Yeah.
Just some lighthearted fun.
Yeah.
Okay, gotcha.
And he's maybe a poodle, so all his hair goes all weird.
And his owner's like, come on, you're in trouble now.
That's his comeuppance.
His owner says you're a bad dog, which is the worst thing you can be as a dog.
That's the worst thing you can be, yeah.
Here we go, new trailer.
A lot of trailers this week.
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Yeah, right.
Quentin Tarantino's ninth film.
Ooh.
We know that because it says it's his ninth film in the trailer.
I guess I would have thought more or less.
I think the only one I haven't seen is Jackie Brown.
Jackie Brown's good.
Yeah.
I'll have to get into that.
The only reason I haven't, because he didn't write that one,
so I'm like, how does it feel comparatively to the other ones?
Do you know?
I mean, you've seen it.
I have seen it.
About the same.
Okay, I'll take that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But no, I like this trailer quite a bit.
Yeah.
So it's the golden age of Hollywood where nobody could act and everything was bad.
That's not true.
A lot of movies were bad.
Yeah.
But the ones that stuck around are mostly good.
Do you buy that Brad Pitt is Leonardo DiCaprio's stunt double?
Not in for a second.
All right.
If anything, it's the other way around.
Yeah.
And look, obviously it's Leonardo DiCaprio, but it's the other way around.
Yeah, right.
But who's the better actor, would you say?
I think it's DiCaprio.
You're probably right.
Like, I think Brad Pitt is underrated as an actor.
Yes.
But I think DiCaprio is still a better actor.
I think DiCaprio has probably tried more and different things.
Yes.
I mean, they've both done old man makeup.
That's true.
That cannot be disputed when DiCaprio was Howard Hughes and Brad Pitt was...
They've both done
heisty style movies.
Yes, that's true.
Catch Me If You Can.
I love Catch Me If You Can.
It's a good movie.
Catch Me If You Can.
It's a great movie.
So...
Do we get much of the plot
of this movie?
What's happening here?
No, I know there's
a Charles Manson...
I can bring up the synopsis.
How about that?
But Charles Manson,
I know, plays a role.
Yes.
Should be called
Once Upon a Time
in Bloody Hollywood, am I right?
That's really weird.
It's 1969, Los Angeles.
Television star Rick Dalton and his longtime stunt double
make their way around a changing industry
that they hardly recognize anymore.
That's interesting.
That's an interesting twist.
It's an interesting change of direction for Quentin Tarantino.
I mean, he sort of leant very heavily into westerns recently.
Yeah, I'm kind of glad he's out of that.
Yeah, me too.
I didn't like The Hateful Eight.
I didn't hate it.
I didn't hateful hate it.
Oh, yes, you didn't hateful hate it.
Yeah.
Apparently, it also features a large ensemble cast,
which we see in the likes of Margot Robbie and other people.
It weaves multiple storylines in a tribute to the final moments
of Hollywood's golden age.
Oh.
Yes, there you go.
So this is, yeah.
And also, I like the inclusion of like the Bruce Lee.
I'm like, that guy's Bruce Lee's dead on.
Yeah, right.
And I love that joke about-
But guess what?
It's Brandon Lee.
What?
That's right.
That's how they got it so accurate.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
But I like that joke about my hands are lethal weapons.
I'll go to jail if I kill somebody.
If anybody kills somebody, they go to jail.
It's bad sort of whatever.
Yeah, I like that.
But we get some, I don't think we've had a Brad Pitt
choreographed fight scene like that before.
Because Fight Club is just men just clashing into each other.
That's true, yeah.
Punching each other in the nose or whatever.
But no, I think I'm really excited for this.
I know there's been a slight shift in Tarantino films
since his longtime editor, whose name I can't remember.
She died a few years back.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
And that was maybe after Inglourious Basterds.
I don't know.
Yeah, right.
But, yeah.
Mm.
Bloody Hollywood, you know what I mean?
More like Hollyweird.
More like Hollyweird.
Here's a fun fact, because I was in a doctor's office
and I read an article from several years ago
about Candice Bergen, Murphy Brown.
Yeah, okay.
You remember Murphy Brown?
Of course I do.
They're bringing that back.
Are they?
Well, they have.
Okay, right.
I don't know.
Okay.
Well, she used to live with a man named Terry Melcher.
Okay.
And who was, I believe, a record executive, a record producer.
Yeah.
And then they moved out of that house and Sharon Tate moved in.
And then Sharon Tate was murdered by Charles Manson's followers.
And the implication seems to have been, people dispute it,
people go back and forth on it,
that Charles Manson murdered Sharon Tate to send a message to Terry Melcher
because Charles Manson was knocked back for a record deal.
Because, again, he was one of those lunatics.
Wasn't this also tied into the Beach Boys?
Yeah, one of the Wilsons, I think.
So isn't that bloody something?
That bloody is something.
That is something.
Actually, the guy who plays Bruce Lee, Mike Moe,
I looked up his stuff on YouTube where he's doing various martial artings.
Oh, so he's a...
Yeah, he's a real martial artist guy.
He's very good.
So what have we got here?
I'll give you some more names.
Do you think he...
Okay, without the Bruce Lee hair and the sunglasses...
Yeah, that does a lot of the work.
Does he look anything like Bruce Lee?
Not really, but the voice that he's doing
is pretty bloody dead on.
Yeah, right.
So Margot Robbie, Al Pacino, Dakota Fanning,
Bruce Stern, Emile Hirsch, Luke Perry, who recently, right. So Margot Robbie, Al Pacino, Dakota Fanning, Bruce Stern,
Emile Hirsch, Luke Perry, who recently, this will be his last role.
Scoot McNary.
Scoot McNary's back.
Yeah, so.
Was he the man with no legs?
Yeah, the man with no legs.
Okay, yeah.
So there's a lot of really great names in this.
Terrific.
I'm really hoping it's good.
Does it look like he's going to resurrect anyone's career in this one?
I would say Luke Perry probably would have been the one.
I mean, Luke Perry was...
Oh, maybe Emile Hirsch.
He's kind of quiet.
Sid Speed Racer.
Yeah, it's not a dead career.
He's been working.
But Bruce Dern?
Who's that again?
He's an old man.
Is he related to Laura Dern?
He probably is.
He probably is, right?
More like Holly Weird.
Yeah, that's what I said.
Holly Weird coincidences. Let me check. A probably is, right? More like Holly Weird. Yeah, that's what I said. Holly Weird coincidences.
Let me check.
A couple of seconds on it.
Laura is also an actor.
Yes.
Unless it's a different Laura Dern.
Unless it's a different, exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
Cool.
Okay.
That sounds all good.
Mason, it's story time.
It's ad time.
It's story time.
Oh, I love it.
Wait a second.
So when my parents told me stories back in the day were
they just advertisements just oh no so the fairies that went off to coca-cola land they were that was
just that was oh no that's right wow oh man and the three little bears that porridge was a brand
of porridge i couldn't think of a brand of porridge it It doesn't matter, Mason, because once upon a time in 2009,
two guys set out to make the perfect tea,
a tea that's like an old favourite from day one,
perfectly broken in and absurdly soft.
The names were Mike and Adam.
Now, remember those names, Mason.
Is it significant?
No, you don't have to remember.
I was going to say.
But the thing about it is because they created marine layer
and what they did with their first batch of tees that they bought,
they got an old V-Dub bus to transport them.
So they were feeling pretty good about their investment.
But nine years later, well, ten years now, and a few credit cards,
two buses later, they built a brand around these absurdly soft shirts.
What do you think happened to the buses?
That's a good question.
Do you think they drove them off cliffs?
Do you reckon they did?
I reckon they did, yeah.
That's a cool part of the story.
They did a Thelma and Louise style.
They were on the run from the cops because their T-shirts were too good.
Too good, too soft.
And too value for money.
The cops were after them.
So they were like, well, better drive this off a cliff.
They don't only make T-shirts, though.
Now they're branched out into Henley's jackets, pants, and sweaters.
You get it.
It's all designed in the Marine Layer workshop in San Francisco.
And it's all really soft. Now, layer workshop in san francisco and it's
all really soft now they're so soft mason i'm wearing one right now you are wearing it a
delightful handling right now it's so great claire hugs me more than i'm wearing this this is not an
exaggeration at all yeah she's like oh so soft and i'm like it is very i mean i am she's like not you
the the shirt can you leave me in a room with the shirt, please? Take your shirt off. Now leave.
Put it on a pillow.
Get out.
Yes.
What have you got of theirs?
I got a pair of jeans.
I thought I'd try out the pair of jeans.
I haven't got the jeans.
Did you buy those jeans in addition to clothes that you bought?
Yes.
Actually, I can.
They gave us a little per diem.
They gave us a couple of credits towards buying some stuff.
But I'm like, I'm going to buy some more stuff because it looks good so i got a pair of jeans i got a little bit of stretch in them which is nice for when i'm feeling chunky yeah i hear a little bit of stretch in them they're
very nice and i got a i got a tee which is very soft they would not line i would also chase them
in their van and i got like uh like a like a terrycloth sweatshirt which is real that's my
that's my pick of the bunch the softest sort of? Yeah, it's like wearing a towel. A terry towel?
A terry towel.
Very good.
It's like wearing a terrycloth robe in public,
except acceptable.
It's very good.
Now, the thing is, these softest teas,
they're made from trees, micromodal,
which is made from recycled beech wood,
which is crazy.
The pulp production is self-sufficient,
so they make teas sustainable, eco-friendly,
and you guessed it, soft.
They also have in-between sizes like Marge and Larger
for dudes who just don't conform to standards,
and the return policy is great.
You can return pretty much anything for up to a year.
Bloody hell.
Yeah.
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Yes
Trailers also for one trailer for Stranger Things Season 3
They're all grown up
It's not the 80s anymore
No
It's still the 80s
It's the late 80s
But it's later in the 80s
Later in the 80s
And the friends aren't as much friends anymore
They can't be Ghostbusters anymore
They've got to be
Serious adults and grown ups
Yeah
But there's also a monster.
And maybe the dimension hasn't finished coming into their dimension.
Hasn't finished dimensioning yet.
Do you think we're going to have some sort of satisfying...
Do you think it's going to be three and done?
Or do you think we're going to drag this out for as long as humanly possible?
I kind of hope it's three and done.
Me too.
Yeah.
I liked two.
Not as much as one.
Because I think the side plot of the new X-Men. I hope it's three and done. Me too. Yeah. I liked two, not as much as one.
Because I think the side plot of the new X-Men,
the new X-Men kids that they kind of went and,
which was fine.
I didn't actually hate it to be fair. I don't hate that episode either.
I know that a lot of people going into that,
a lot of people like episode seven or whatever it was,
this is ruined it kind of thing.
And I'm like, no, this is, take a chance, you know?
Yeah, absolutely.
And I think it's, you know, if people a, there would have, if people had responded well to
that, I'd imagine there would have been a spinoff.
Already, yeah.
But no, I don't know whether this is the last one, but there's a different monster.
Yes.
And is it a conspiracy?
That's what I've written here.
Is it?
It seems to be a conspiracy because there seems to be a lot of guns with silencers on
them.
Yeah.
That, then you know it's a conspiracy.
That points to conspiracy, I think, because you want to shoot somebody but make it a bit shush-shush.
That's right.
You know?
Shh.
Hush.
Hush.
Hush.
Don't tell anybody the secrets.
Don't do it.
When is this out?
Are you going to tell someone the secrets?
You are.
Pew.
Pew.
Pew.
Pew.
Shh.
Pew.
Shh.
You know?
When does this debut?
I know it says in the trailer.
Yeah.
Let me check that. A lot of people have suggested that? I know it says in the trailer. Yeah. Let me check that.
A lot of people have suggested that this monster that we see in the trailer is one of the kids, I think.
It feels like it could go that way, especially the one who was trapped in the dimension,
but the dimension that wanted to be our dimension.
Yes.
Get out of our fucking dimension, man.
Yeah.
Take your shit back to your dimension.
Exactly.
Your weird goopy trees and your bug men.
Fuck off. we grew here you also grew here but in a different way
like a goopy kind of
creepy way you know
don't do it
we've had it up to here with you
but I will absolutely watch this
we've had it up to here with you and also down from there
with you because your dimension is upside down
so we've had it up and also down wherever it to be yeah that's where we are stick to there for you yeah yeah i
wonder whether this will wrap up after this though i hope so um i want i want some answers i think
what do we need to know yeah well that's also it i don't see that what do you want i don't know
because i want to where this because's, what answers could I possibly get
where the dimension come from?
It was just there, I guess.
It was always there.
Yeah.
But where did they build their own bad 7-Elevens or whatever?
Yeah, so, I mean, exactly like, I guess maybe the question is,
was it spawned from our dimension?
Was it created and then flipped upside down?
Like when they opened it, it kind of created it? Yeah, did someone on Earth create the dimension? Yeah. Was it created and then flipped upside down? Like when they opened it, it kind of created it?
Yeah.
Did someone on Earth create the dimension?
If so, who?
If so, who?
And don't.
Don't.
It's a conspiracy.
Because why is the other dimension like a ruined Earth city kind of thing?
Good questions all around.
They are a good question.
Is it the future?
Could be the future.
Could be the future.
That's actually a good point.
It could be a post-apocalyptic situation.
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
Bad 7-Elevens.
Which is to say 7-Elevens.
They're okay.
They're very convenient, aren't they?
They're the epitome of a convenient store.
Definitely, yeah.
And they're not even 7-Eleven anymore.
They're 24 hours a day.
24-7-Eleven.
Amazing. Yeah. Oh. Here we go. even 7 till 11 anymore. They're 24 hours a day. 24, 7, 11. Amazing.
Yeah.
Oh.
Here we go.
This is more for me.
Dog's back in the sun.
Yeah.
You love that dog.
That's good for you.
Yeah.
Stay away from John Wick's dog, though.
That's right.
Dog, dog.
Just check the tag.
If it says dog, dog, you're in trouble.
Back away.
Supernatural will end after 15 seasons.
I wrote that down for you
i'm like just in case you missed that somehow i would never was there a sad video where they
were like guys listen there was i didn't watch exactly if it's not on youtube or even if it is
on here okay here's the deal if it doesn't if it doesn't come up in my recommended youtube like
when i open the app or i put it to put it my TV, if it doesn't come up immediately, I'm not watching it. It's gone.
Then they were like, guys, we've had a good run.
Yeah. But we've done this for 15 years.
There's been too many. I can't, what,
2005 this started or whatever it is?
Yeah, right. Which is crazy. We were so much
younger then. And so were they. And yet
they look the same and we look worse.
What's that about? Hollywood.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I hope these guys go on to do other things.
Because I always felt like they were both very good.
Yeah, right.
And continue to be very good in these roles.
I could easily see one as a Green Lantern or a Nightwing or whatever.
Yeah, or Red Hood.
Or Red Hood.
I think Jensen Aples dressed up as Red Hood for Halloween one time.
And he voiced him in the Red Hood movie.
That's true, he did, yeah.
So, yeah, there's definitely room for that.
But I would also hope that you'd be okay with him just doing nothing after this yeah sure if they wanted
to do that that's fine also this is a is this a network show this is like a it's cw okay right
it's one of the longest running yeah i get the sense that if you do this show for 15 years you
probably have the money to not do anything else so if. So if they're like, listen, I'm never doing anything again.
I'd be like, of course.
Yeah.
Now I dropped off probably four or five seasons ago,
but it's always my plan to go back.
Yeah, now you can.
Now I can and will.
I think this is going to be, I mean,
this could very well be one of those ones where I know a lot of people,
especially on the Planet Broadcasting Facebook group,
have said now that it's going to be done, I can start on this.
Yes.
Where it's like, okay,
now that I know it has a definitive end point,
I can go through and knock it all off.
And I think it, for me, the pinnacle was season five,
and then there's a couple after that,
which I don't love.
But then it does,
it brings in interesting elements of...
Does it recycle something?
I mean, they all die and come back, obviously.
A lot of kind of like in the first season,
it teaches you the rules where it's like,
okay, if you want to kill a ghost,
you find the body and you burn the body
and then the ghost explodes.
And then in season two, it's like,
we burnt the body, but the ghost is still here.
It's a magic ghost.
Not a magic ghost.
What's that even?
But then there's like a lock of its hair
in a basement somewhere that they got to find or whatever.
So once they establish all the rules,
they never kill a thing really like that again
because it's always like another wrinkle to get it done.
Do they become like ghostbusters in the sense
it becomes just like a blue collar, like, ugh.
It's a bit of that, but it's more kind of like,
hell's going to spill over to the earth
and the angels are really a bunch of dickheads.
Yeah, right.
And, you know know is that god
i don't know i'm not up to that bit yet if it's gone or not
but no it's great it's a good show okay uh okay here's i forgot to put this in but i just
remembered uh batman is apparently the batman will be set in the 90s nice because i guess if
it's a prequel if it even is is, because the Suicide Squad is a reboot
but the Joker movie
is not in the regular
DC universe. Correct, yes. Do you think
maybe they saw the box office success of Captain
Marvel and went... 90s baby.
90s will do it. I'd say they'd probably
already planned it to be. Yeah, right.
Because I know a lot of people, including us, were like
Black Woman's a lot like Black Panther
but you have to... you're so far along before...
And I guess also certain things get in the zeitgeist.
It's like, okay, well, the 90s, you know,
it's rolling in and there's nothing you can do about it.
Kids in the 90s are now working in Hollyweird, mate.
But I would like to see a scene where Bruce Wayne's in his, Bruce Wayne's in his, in his, in his chair and he's sitting there and he's like,
he's done all his training.
He's like criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot.
How can I make them fear?
And then like a blind melon CD crashes through the,
through his window and he's like, I should become,
I should become the band blind melon.
Does he have to replace one of the members?
Is he all of the members?
What are we, what are we talking about?
Yeah, he alternates.
He switches in and out.
Okay, I got you.
All these crime-fighting schemes involve him
quickly switching out of the outfits of various members of Blind Melon,
which is probably pretty easy
because it's always just different flannel shirts.
And I want a Hey Jealousy montage.
Yeah.
I don't care when or how.
Okay, that's not Blind Melon.
No, I know.
Okay, cool. It's just the 90s
i want a breakfast at tiffany's brunch all right okay i can see that in the 90s yeah that's okay
i don't think i don't think they're gonna lean too hard into the remember this shit yeah right
i feel like the batman movies don't really yeah but that i mean that will also put paid to like
your theory which one that the burton universe is oh no that i was gonna say put it's gonna put Batman movies don't really... Yeah, but that will also put paid to like... Your theory.
Which one?
The Burton universe.
Oh, no, I was going to say it's going to put paid to something
that I feel like maybe has been overdone at this point.
I think maybe the MCU has brought it to its biggest,
like its overkill point,
where everything's a floating hologram screen.
Yes.
You know, like everything's just in the air.
I'd love lots of TVs instead.
Yeah, exactly.
Heaps of TVs.
Heaps of TVs instead. Yes. How many did he have in just in the air. I'd love lots of TVs instead. Yeah, exactly. Heaps of TVs. Heaps of TVs instead.
Yes.
How many did he have in Batman Returns?
Like one or two?
Yeah.
And a VCR, whatever he had in there.
Yes, yeah.
Yeah.
Good on him.
Yeah, we want heaps of TVs.
Last bit of news.
Toy Story 4 got a trailer.
How does Woody feel about growing up and being a toy?
Yeah.
Is Andy?
No, he's not.
But there's a new, there's a girl. Yeah. Why can't you just be a toy for yeah he's andy no he's not but there's a new there's
a girl and yeah why can't you just be a toy for once what's my peep up to she left she's in a
she's like she's a carnival fighter fighter yeah i'm not i like these movies a lot but i'm like
this feels very familiar i should give it the benefit of the doubt yeah right but it's a lot
of like the most important thing in the world is make a kid happy for for four years and then they'll forget you forever yeah right
yeah okay i like the idea of building a toy like did you feel did you feel as as cynical for toy
story 3 no not after i saw the trailer okay no okay uh but the look again benefit of the doubt
but a lot of the creatives from pix have moved on for various reasons. Yes.
But I know that a lot of the team there, I think now do the Disney regular 3D animated
stuff, like your Frozens and whatever.
Oh, okay, sure.
Which I think are also, I don't think now there's that much of a difference between
that and like classic Pixar stuff.
That's true.
Yeah.
Because there was an era when it's like, what about Disney's Bolt?
It's a stunt dog voiced by John Travolta.
What? What do you mean and why don't just just don't send that back to whatever hell dimension it came from send that back to xenu's house all right so yeah but no this trailer again
benefit of the doubt the whole cast is back i like the idea that she built a toy and it became sentient.
Yeah.
I enjoy that.
Uh-huh.
But, yeah.
Interesting we didn't see that before.
No.
But it's not that interesting.
It is interesting.
It builds on the lore.
But anything else?
We'll see it.
We'll do an episode.
We'll see it.
Do an episode.
Yeah.
Mason Will Anderson, we mentioned him up top.
He's actually a friend of the show. A friend of ours, Mason. Yes, that's right. Funny story mentioned him up top He's actually a friend of the show
A friend of ours Mason
Yes that's right
Funny story though
No he's a friend of the show
He's not a friend of us
Yes
I met him
I saw him the other day
He was hanging out with the show
And I'm like
What a minute
What do you
What do you
Why do you invite me
He is notoriously
One of the nicest men
In comedy also
Absolutely
We met him independently
Of him Having toe-fop On Planet Broadcasting with Charlie Coulson,
who's been on the show also.
But I did some work experience on The Gruen Transfer like 10 years ago.
And I met him briefly and he was very nice.
And I was, you know, he could have thrown a coffee at me.
That's right.
But it was super nice.
And he continues to be the nicest man, hardest working man in comedy, I would say.
You better believe it.
And he's actually back with a new show from March 27th until April 21st in the Melbourne
International Comedy Festival.
Tickets on sale at comedy.com.au.
You might know him from Willosophy, which is a great podcast.
Tofop.
Two Guys One Cup.
Other various podcasts that he has been on and done.
Also, of course, The Gruen Transfer, which is a fantastic show on the ABC.
It was on The Glasshouse.
That is no longer a show.
He's on Triple M's Breakfast Show, The Hot Breakfast.
That's right.
He does it all.
And the thing is, I haven't seen this new show, but I did see his last one, which is
absolutely fantastic.
I am going to see the show because why wouldn't you?
Why wouldn't I?
Also, they sell out very quickly.
They're always packed.
They're big venues, but they sell out. They're always packed houses. They're big venues but they sell out.
They're always packed houses, yeah. Occasionally
somebody will ask him, are you ever going to run
out of Will-themed puns for your show? He's got
like 50 more. I've seen the list.
He could live forever or at least
50 years. You know it. Yeah, that's
fantastic. Got a review here though.
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The man is on fire.
You better believe it.
That's right.
Literally on fire.
You've got to see that.
He does it every night.
That's his closer.
That's it.
So that's...
Look, the jokes were really good,
but also how does he do that?
Every night.
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I can't believe they're paying us to do this ad because I would happily do this for free.
We would have done it for free, I think, yeah.
So, yeah, Will Anderson, if you're listening, you don't have to pay us for this.
We'll just do it.
Wait, what?
All right, on with the show.
Yes.
Now, we can't do Us This week it is out yes uh because it's not out here yet please no spoilers for people who haven't said the spoilers
same with the um we had an opportunity to see shazam on friday i had a wedding i'm not my own
i'm only going to do that once hopefully no matter what happens i'm only doing it once
and i couldn't get up yeah so i'm a little poorly but there's already information about what the post credits are and
whatever we don't want that do not tell us if you can uh if you can just about get take it back yeah
get rid of it i'll probably we'll probably get spoiled in a headline that's like can you believe
hawk man's in the post credits or whatever but yeah
people are generally
pretty good about that
a lot of the time
when we get spoiled
it's just because people
assume that we've seen
or they're very enthusiastic
which is good
but no
so next week we'll do us
also I'm getting my
gallbladder out this week
so I might not be around
next week
I'll probably be fine
it's just a surgery
that's not
apparently that big a deal
and we're auctioning off your gallbladder for charity.
That's right.
You want just a weird gross bag filled with 10 rocks?
You can have it.
It's medical waste, right?
They can't give it to you.
I want one of the stones.
I'm definitely going to ask.
Yeah.
And then it will sit next to me on this desk.
Great.
Slowly melding with the desk.
I just want to see it.
I don't want it.
Just to go, fuck me. This is probably questions for with the desk. I just want to see it. I don't want it. Just to go, fuck me.
This is probably questions outside the podcast.
Is it a local anesthetic?
They put you under whatever that one is.
Oh, so a general anesthetic.
Yeah, and it's keyhole.
They go through your belly button
and there's a few cuts they make under your ribcage
and they yank it out.
They yank it right out.
So they can't just put you in a local anesthetic. They can't just numb your tongue and then take the stone out and show it right out yeah so they can't like they can't just put you on like in a like a local anesthetic they can't just numb your tongue no and then take the gold like the stone out and show it
to you no which i would prefer because we talked about this briefly before the show this is not
comic book movie related there's time codes if you want to skip ahead but uh if you want to hear
about how about surgery yeah time coded because the last i've only done it once and when i got my
wisdom tooth out like 10 plus years ago, when you're out, you're just
gone.
There's nothing.
There's nothing.
So if I go under and I don't come out for whatever reason, I'm just like, was that it?
Like it's just infinite nothing.
Yeah.
So look, patreon.com slash Mr. Sunday movies if I die, so I can support my family from
beyond the grave wow
but i'm not it's not a big deal you'll be fine they've done tons of these do you want me to be
in the operating theater wake him up i'm ready with clamps yeah good and guns to make sure they
wake me up that's right yeah yeah no you don't want that because i'm on a hair trigger at all
times i'll be like gun to the gun to the guy's head and i'll be like if you don't wake him up
and then somebody will come through the door,
and I'll bang.
And I'm like, oh, can we get another anaesthetist real quick?
We've, oh, no.
What have we done?
You done.
Yeah.
Not me.
No, what you've done.
You encouraged this.
I did.
Hellboy.
We're going to talk about the Hellboy movies,
the two that we've got, not the third one,
which apparently was Gimermo del Toro.
How do you say it again?
I always get it wrong.
I say Guillermo, but I think I'm still incorrect.
Well, it's closer than I am.
Said it was always, he decided to walk away from this.
It was kind of his choice to kind of move on.
What after too?
Yeah, that was more recently, but he decided.
So that's why they, and then it went to Lionsgate,
and Lionsgate are now doing the new version,
which is...
I can't remember what story.
There's a popular Hellboy story that they've adapted.
I can't remember what it is.
Oh, it's Hellboy Fights the Chicken Footed House.
Is the chicken...
Volumes one and two.
They're really packing it in.
I think they're going to take
a lot of the essential story elements out of it,
because you can't compact that into two hours.
I don't...
Yeah, that's adapting the unadaptable.
Exactly.
Is the chicken still in the house?
We'll find out when we see it.
But no, these movies are...
There was two previous movies,
2004 and 2008.
Yes.
They didn't do...
This first one in particular didn't do super well.
I'm kind of surprised it got a sequel.
I think it must have done well on blu-ray or dvd or whatever because the first one made 99 million on a 66
million budget okay so it must have been home sales which got this yeah right over the line
yeah uh that feels like but that also feels like they maybe they were hoping it to be like a
resident evil style franchise where they make just, they make enough money.
Right.
Unless.
They go bigger in the second one though.
Oh yeah, right, right.
Yeah.
So like, or maybe the Resident Evil franchise makes tons of money.
I don't know.
But like, it feels like maybe one of those, they were like, they were aiming for one of
those franchises where it's like, well, they make more, they make more than it costs to
make.
Yes.
So let's just keep them rolling until they stop making money and then we'll just, you
know, quietly kill it.
We've had a few discussions about this during the week
because we were supposed to do it last week.
How do you feel about these now that it's been X number of years?
Well, it has been X number of years.
Look, I still think they're good.
Agreed.
But I think I had this revelation on the drive over here.
Okay.
The second one feels quite Men in Black-ish.
And then as I was driving over here, I thought about it.
I'm like, wait a sec.
I thought these were cool indie left-of-center action movies.
I'm like, did they just make these to cash in on Men in Black?
Is that what happened?
That's entirely possible.
Are these just Men in Black carbon copies? I think they mostly out Men in Black, Men in Black? Is that what happens? Is that... Are these just... That's entirely possible. Are these just Men in Black carbon copies?
I think they mostly out Men in Black, Men in Black for the most part.
Yeah, I think they do.
Yeah.
There's more memorable characters.
The first one, the first Men in Black is great.
But yeah, I definitely...
I think...
See, I feel more that way about the first one because the...
We'll be jumping around a bit in this and spoilers.
But go watch them as well.
I think maybe it's also like there are certain visual aspects
to the Men in Black universe and the Hellboy universe
that I think they inherently share just because of like...
The nature of the secret agency.
The nature of the secrecy and the nature of the monsters.
Where it's like, if you've got a tentacle monster,
it's going to be flinging people about. And that was that feels like a very much a trope of the men
in black universe like you see a background monster people are just having a chat and then
they're just flinging agents about like we got that a lot in hellboy 2 i think yeah i think maybe
that's just a function of well if it's sci-fi and kind of supernaturally cthulhu-ish yeah aliens
we're gonna get a lot of that maybe yeah but the first one because we've got that point of view
character who disappears in between movies.
Yeah, he gets reassigned.
And I think they put him in because it's weird having a 50-year-old man
in a demon costume.
Maybe they got cold feet on that.
Or maybe he's a very popular character from the comics.
I don't believe so.
He wouldn't be more popular than Hellboy.
But he's definitely our window in.
No, he's way more popular than Hellboy.
There's 50 issues of that guy.
It's called that guy from the BPRD who got reassigned in the second movie.
But when he enters the facility,
there's a,
keep your hands inside the whatever,
the secret elevator,
he's walking through it.
And that feels men in black.
Yeah.
Ish as well.
And he's,
and he's kind of your window in to like,
and there's this weird thing and there's a fish man,
there's a demon man, this girl can shoot fire thing, and there's a fish man, there's a demon man,
this girl can shoot fire and so on.
But before that though,
I think the intro, the 1945 intro or whatever it is,
the flashback is really quite good.
I agree.
Where it's Rasputin summoning a weird tentacle Cthulhu monster
through a crystal or something.
There's some clunky dialogue and it's in both of them
yeah the exact same thing and which which i think comic book movie directors especially have sort of
have leaned away from in the past but it's definitely in this one where some guy like
you have to establish that he's got you know that he's different and he's got the right hand of doom
and one of the characters are like he's got a big rock in his hand that is his
hand, that's in both movies
there's an easier way
to do that
you're probably
right, he's got a big stone in his hand
you can't put it down
put down that stone
that's in your hand
it is my hand though
so it's also if
we're talking early 2000s early comic book stuff yeah it's got that fly through a bunch of stuff
title x-men spider-man intro it does you know your things that i don't even remember what it is for
hell boy just fire the clock works no it's it's fine it's there's a lot of fire and there's a bit
of that and there's also a bit of there's a lot of newspaper cl there's a bit of that. And there's also a bit of, there's a lot of newspaper clippings. Yeah. Like who is the mysterious hell boy?
Yes.
Right.
I call him hell boy.
Who's the boy from hell?
Who's that?
Tell us.
He's got a Broadway musical,
the boy from hell.
What I think most of these movies do really well though.
I think it's more,
is he a bat?
There's a bat boy and hell boy in a relationship.
Who knows?
There's always something like that.
Yeah.
But I think the, both of these movies do villains well.
Yeah.
The first one, Rasputin, I love the clockwork, sand-filled Nazi.
I think that's such a cool villain.
Yeah, right.
The way he can kind of shut himself off and get into a facility
and then he puts all his pieces back together.
He's just filled with sand and meanness.
I enjoyed that we don't get a full origin of Rasputin.
It's assumed we, the audience, are not aliens.
And that Rasputin we know somewhat as a historical figure
and this is what he's become.
He can't be killed.
I also enjoyed the fact that he is this unknowable evil
and a lot of the rules don't seem to apply to him.
He can just be like, okay, I'm going to create this monster
and if the monster dies, there's two more.
He can just do that.
There's seemingly no limit to his powers because he's a villain.
Those rules don't apply to him anymore.
I think the plan was also to bring him back for the third one i think i read something about that but i like
he's riding the chicken feed house i'm back bitches i like the resurrection of him through
the blood temple yeah thing or whatever but there's a lot of good there's a lot of great
imagery in this i don't love the space cthulhu I love the space Cthulhu I remember at the time
because we saw this together
and we both
were on the same page
that we are now
about that exact thing
we're like
it's just a big
squid
no
and I know it's like
a HG
what's HG
HG Nelson
yeah HG
Australian
HG zone
yeah
no HB Lovecraft
kind of situation
I enjoyed the fact that they're they're just throwing it all against the wall to see what sticks.
Yes.
And also that's out of copyright, so they can do this.
They can do it.
Although they didn't use Cthulhu specifically.
No, they don't say that exact thing, but Rasputin's out of copyright.
They do mention, though...
Because he's real?
Because he's real!
He was never in copyright, ideally.
If anybody could be in copyright, he could probably make it happen, you know what I mean?
But they do also mention that, briefly, that he's a guy from the 19th century
and they shot him and stabbed him and poisoned him
and they burnt all his organs or whatever.
They do mention that in the movie, briefly.
But yeah.
What do you think of the characterization, the makeup,
the performance of Hellboy?
How does that come together for you?
Like, how does it stack up?
Yeah.
It's still good, I think.
I agree.
Let me think.
He doesn't, like, even in, like, HHD,
he doesn't seem particularly styrofoamy.
No.
And there's a lot of him with his shirt off
and fake muscles and fake chest or whatever,
but it all looks pretty convincing.
I think it's better in two.
Yeah.
And I think his colours, he's got a deeper red in two.
I think he's more orangey, I think, in the first one, I would say.
Yeah.
But Ron Perlman's great in this.
And what an absolute bloody sport for submitting to however many hours of makeup.
Oh, mate.
Because, yeah.
Is there more shirtless stuff in this one than the other one?
In the first one?
Yeah.
I think so, yeah.
Yeah. But it's, yeah. Yeah.
But it's very impressive
and you've got to have this animatronic hand on.
You've got a fact about that hand.
I remember you telling me.
Do I have a fact about it?
Is the fact about that hand...
Which hand it was going to go on?
Traditionally in the comic books,
he's got the right hand of Doom
because he needs to fire a gun with the left hand.
I think because Ron Perlman is right-handed.
Yes.
They were like, well, do we want to make it the left hand of Doom
and he can fire a gun with the right hand?
Yeah.
And they were like, well, people would be mad.
But then he just was like...
Or he is left-handed.
Look, I don't know.
When you said fact.
Look, it turned out fine, though.
Everything turned out fine.
But he's really great.
And having not seen the new one, you see a lot of Ron Perlman in it.
And I don't, from the trailers of the new one,
I don't know if I get that sense of,
that's the bloody dude from Stranger Things or whatever.
Okay, you think it's David Harbour doing a Ron Perlman impression?
Not necessarily, but I mean, you can see more Ron Perlman in this.
Even just in the features.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Yeah, right, okay.
But he just kind of looks more like a gruff demon man in the new one.
Again, having not seen it. So I don't want to get on that too much.
But yeah, he feels comic book in size, but not too big.
Do you know what I mean?
He feels like a real person in the world.
It's like they'll do a CGI hand bit where he'll crush a can
or he's tail CGI'd for doing a whatever.
Did Hellboy 1 pioneer big dude punching a car and flipping it over his head?
I was going to mention that.
It's got a car flip or a truck flip.
Every movie from like 2002 to 2014 had a car or a truck or a bus.
Terminator Genesis did it, flipping over a guy or whatever because he stops it with a
force field or he punches it or
whatever yeah right uh-huh don't just don't all right it's not impressive i i was such a big fan
though back in the day oh yeah definitely and there's examples of it that have worked i think
well there's a truck flip it's not really the same but in the dark night where they really flip a
truck yeah and i'll take a real truck flip. I'll take that any day of the week.
But yeah, there's-
Terminator 3, a real truck flip.
It's a real truck flip.
Okay, I'll say this about Hellboy.
He does-
Have you seen, side note, have you seen, it's on Twitter.
I think there's a new app called TikTok.
I'm not aware of what it is.
Are there people miming crap songs?
No, I think maybe, probably, but it's short videos.
There's a video of Arnold Schwarzenegger
On his
I guess his ranch
Or his farm
I've seen this
And he's on a
He's on an electric bike
And he's chasing
A Shetland pony
Around a field
And he's not
Just to be clear
The Shetland pony
Is clearly into it
Yeah
Like it's clearly
His pet Shetland pony
Or like whatever it is
And it's like,
chase me, dad.
It's hilarious.
Of course he's got one of those.
Of course he does, yeah.
Oh, mate.
That guy's up to so many things.
He is, isn't he?
Yeah.
He was in Melbourne recently
for the Look at My Muscles Challenge.
He was doing the Look at My Muscles Challenge.
Yeah, so good on him.
That's just because I'm right,
because didn't Arnold Schwarzenegger
pay for some of the stunts in...
Didn't he pay with his own money?
He did, yeah.
But there is a CGI truck flip in that movie,
but it's not someone standing in front of it.
But yeah, there's a bit where a crane goes through the front of the building.
That's right, yes.
And he did it for...
They want to do it for real.
Or he wanted to do it for real.
Hellboy quips too much when he should move.
Move to run, move to shoot.
He's like, what's this then?
This hardly feels like...
I don't like...
Don't you know?
Uh-huh.
But I mean, you would do that given that you're a guy
who is seemingly completely indestructible.
Okay, fair point.
He does, at the end of the...
I guess, I think that Hellboy,
the Hellboy movies are more about spectacle
than they are about danger, really.
Okay, sure.
Because at the end of the first Hellboy,
Rasputin is defeated and he dies.
But then the dark, the old god creature that's within him and I guess is powering him.
Yeah.
Escapes and turns into a giant tentacle monster.
And Hellboy just leaps into his mouth with like a dozen hand grenades.
Right.
And it just explodes and he's fine.
Yeah.
That's a good point.
So, you know.
Yeah.
It was more, it was this the hell
hellboy one is more about the journey than the destination sure yeah yeah and you know he does
have a good journey through these films like liz i feel right does because by the time the second
movie rolls around she does have the handle on her powers she knows what she's doing yeah their
relationship moves along enough where she's like don't be an idiot yeah don't just don't don't hell boy yeah
is that some is the is is the is the trans is the transition from her producing blue flame to
orange flame yeah what is that is that thematically or is it more difficult to do
oh like cgi was yeah right does she have the blue flame at the end of the first one yes she does okay
and then that's what they bring up in the next one or is it orange in the second it's orange in
the second one i don't know what that is.
Maybe she can just do either because she's got the powers of.
That's interesting.
Maybe one was cheaper.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, she's obviously been lying low because she's got MS and she showed up recently
for the Oscars, which was great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'd like to see her do more stuff.
Me too.
Yeah, obviously she's been lying low for a reason, but I think there's a way, if they
had done a third one,
of bringing her back and making it work.
There's ways you can film around an actor that,
or you make it part of the character.
Yeah, right.
You know what I mean?
Look when Michael J. Fox works, they make it work.
That's true, yeah.
So, yeah, I'd like to see her turn up in more things.
Abe Sapien is a bloody gosh darn marvel of prosthetics
and CGI blinking eyes and performance.
I really liked the David Hyde Pierce voice in the first one,
which he chose not to be credited for
because Doug Jones was the one who got all the fish stuff stuck to him.
Sometimes he'd wear it overnight
because it was easier than taking it off.
That guy, the stuff that he has put himself through.
Yeah, right.
Incredible.
But I love that character.
And Guillermo del Toro clearly loved him as well.
Yeah.
I feel like, well, you were saying that Guillermo del Toro,
GDT, let's call him GDT.
GDT, baby.
Do you think he, when you say he walked away from the Hellboy franchise,
did you say because he was just done
with it i think he was just done i feel like maybe it was because he wanted to do the fish love story
because hellboy 2 and i'd forgotten until we recently re-watched this has has the fish love
story in it yes it's a fish man love story in it yeah and i feel like he wanted to do more with it
and now the studio were like,
no, we can't do Hellboy 3. Abe Sapien has sex with a woman in the 50s. So you can't do it.
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That's sunrisech moved on. You're probably right. And he won an Oscar.
So he was right to do so.
There is some wonky early... Isn't that interesting though?
What's that?
That had he made a Hellboy 3,
Abe Sabian had sex with a human woman.
Yes.
That would never have won an Oscar.
Absolutely not.
Never in a billion years.
No way.
Because it was genre-y and based on a comic book.
Yes.
And there would have been too many shooty action sequences.
Yeah.
Even if it was
the most amazing
you know
romance ever set
to film
it never would have
won an Oscar
because they would have
been like
this is genre and stupid
even though
look
and The Shape of Water
is great
I'm glad it won
because it's
it's so weird
and stuff like that
doesn't really
yeah
win anything
doesn't generally win
but no
I'm glad that
kind of went away
do you think it was do you think it was a career...
What do you want to call it?
Do you think it was a lifetime achievement award?
Yeah, maybe.
Did Pan's Labyrinth win anything?
I don't believe so.
Or maybe it did win Best International Film or something.
Yeah, or Best Special Effects or Editing or something.
It may very well.
Because a lot of his previous work does flow over into this particularly the weird world building and
animatronic stuff that what there's some wonky cgi in this we're talking hellboy too no the first
hellboys that um there's a monster that's there's a moment where a thing like as a sand thing that
kind of oh yes i can't remember the bit i've wrote it down i can't remember specifically
there's a bit where
he crushes the red bull can and it's clearly a fake hand and a fake and a fake hand and i've
also written here the love story is weird because it is he kind of follows the girl that he likes
around and then eventually she's like all right that's true yeah i mean he obviously she obviously
is supposed to really love him but it's a bit kind of it's a bit of a weird dynamic yeah it's kind of
because she's kind of like just leave me alone because I burst into flames.
And he's like, give me a kiss.
Kiss me, baby.
Yeah.
And exactly.
Like, it seems the only commonality that they have is they're both fireproof.
Yes.
And he's like, come on, we're both fireproof, baby.
Come on.
Come on.
Come on.
Pan's Labyrinth won three Academy Awards.
Okay, good.
Which ones?
Let's find out.
Best Beeshell of Eegs?
It won Best Cinematography, Best Art Direction, Best Makeup.
Okay.
And it was nominated for Best Original Score, but it did not win.
But it won those ones.
Yes, correct.
I've never seen it.
Please don't email me.
I've been planning to.
I have seen it.
Don't email me, Mason.
Okay.
Can I email you for other reasons?
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, okay.
As long as it's not related to that.
Yeah, so there's a couple of animatronic stuff,
other stuff that I really like.
The monster that he fights that can be multiple monsters.
Yes, uh-huh. There's bits where it's maybe not filmed super well like it's a bit flat and
puppety uh-huh but i think the blend between it being a cgi thing that's kicked through a wall
and being a real thing in the physical space is is good yeah i know i at no point was like well
this is yeah that's obviously like all eyes on one side of its head or whatever's going on there
and i love that it doesn't look super convincing,
but I love the chatting skeleton that he carries around on the noose.
It's just like...
Well, that's straight out of the comic books.
Yes.
Yeah, I really enjoyed that, even though it's clearly a puppet.
It's not proportioned like a human.
Yeah, but he's...
I know, but I love it.
I'm 100% on board.
Yeah.
And that, again, that to me that I enjoy,
I think I enjoy the first one more
because it's got more of that,
just that mishmash of weirdness.
Yeah.
Like it's Elder Gods and it's like,
okay, I've got a, you know,
I've got a bone from a saint
and I can use that to separately bring back a corpse
or what have you.
Like it's just, imagine all the weirdness of this of you know imagine all the the myths and
legends you know what they're all true yeah i very much enjoy any kind of universe like that and to
me the golden army didn't and again i don't know i guess it is a similar mishmash but i think it
felt very much like guillermo wanted to just do his own thing
and they would only let him do it through the lens of a franchise character
that was already proven.
I feel like you could take Hellboy and the BPRD out of Hellboy 2.
Okay.
If it was just a regular person figuring out this universe,
it would still mostly be fine.
Like a National Treasure situation.
Like a National Treasure situation, exactly.
Well, I think he's got skills more than whatever the character's name
in National Treasure is called.
Okay, good.
Nicholas Cage.
Nick Jumpalot.
Nick Jumpalot.
Nicholas Jumpalot, yes.
A lot of agents get killed in this in Rasputin's Tomb.
I really enjoy Rasputin's Tomb.
I love the swinging pendulum, taking out the bridges.
I remember that in the trailer as well. That's something that stuck in my mind a lot of agents get mashed they really do he
becomes friends with jeffrey tambor and they smoke cigars together like we've got some things in
common don't we yeah we're both bald yeah there's there's very little there's very little uh concern
for the the agent the other agents welfare yeah hellboy seems a little bit sad that one of them is killed in the first one.
The dude with the hair plugs.
Yeah, exactly.
But for the rest of it, he's just kind of like,
the rest of that movie and the other movies,
there's just a series of dudes in suits
who get chewed to pieces by various monsters
and we all just move on.
Yeah, exactly.
To some degree, it's like, well, that's what they signed up for.
But on the other hand, it's like, well, you knew these things existed.
Yes.
Send them in like a hazardous environment suit or something.
Exactly, yeah.
Don't send them in like a two-piece race suit.
And you work with them.
You see them every day.
Yeah, I know, right?
Yeah.
Just put them in a diving suit or something, you know?
Do you think the new movie is going to do the break the horns?
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
If you know that they're tooth fairies, this is the second one.
Yes.
Get them out of there.
Get them out of there.
Just don't.
Don't.
Don't send them in.
You've got a six shooter.
Yeah.
And there's a million of them.
There's a million of them.
And also, how do you hit?
Try and hit a bird with, try and hit a really fast, try and hit a finch with a handgun.
Good luck.
I'm sure people
will message you
and say well actually
it's technically possible.
Sure it is.
And then also
the finch is trying
to eat your face
and there's a thousand
of them.
A finch is trying
to get directly
into your mouth
to eat your teeth
and then the rest
of your body
and you have to shoot
it with a handgun.
Good luck.
Do you think
in the new one there's going to be the break the horns?
I'm a good guy.
Yes.
Because you see in the trailer he's got the...
Yeah, absolutely there is.
Yeah.
I think maybe this is for maybe a younger audience who hasn't seen the previous two.
Right, yeah.
Where's the recording?
I don't know.
We'll just keep going.
Okay, we'll just keep going.
And if it doesn't work...
It's just a new space and I'm concerned that maybe you haven't dotted the I's and crossed the T's.
I'm keeping an eye on it.
Okay, all right.
I'm keeping an eye on it.
Okay.
I think I found the right level with the air con as well.
Yeah, yeah, great.
Is it good for you?
Yeah.
Okay, great.
Could be a little colder.
Oh, Jesus.
Fine.
Here we go.
Yeah.
I put it up.
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It's just a car we've parked in the roof.
It's just a car we've parked. It just a car we've parked in the roof. It's just a car we've parked.
It's a car we've parked in the garage with just the ignitions on.
We're feeling very cool and lightheaded.
Yeah, man.
It's feeling great.
I get it.
Just breathing every once in a while.
I'm feeling good.
Me too.
Should we get right into two, though?
Let's get into two.
I think it's better, but you think it's not as good.
I think you're wrong.
But yeah. I think it strays too far you think it's not as good. I think you're wrong, but... Yeah.
I think it strays too far.
I don't think it opens as well.
Unless...
And I'm just going to check really quickly,
because we're going to get emails.
Unless it's based directly on a Hellboy comic book
that I haven't read.
Like, maybe I missed a volume.
It's entirely possible.
Yes.
Actually, I don't think it is.
I think it might have been made up for the movie.
It is weird that they have the 1955 John Hurt flashback
because he's killed in the first one by the Sand Nazi
who's got no eyelids.
That's right.
That's the bit.
The Sand Nazi man, when you see his eyes and he's got no eyelids,
it looks like CGI eyeballs kind of googling around in his head.
That's what I meant to say.
But the opening of that movie is set in 1955.
Yeah, with young Hellboy.
Yeah, but it's...
Kid Hellboy.
Which I like.
Boy Hellboy.
Boy Hellboy.
Boy Boy.
Yes.
But John Hurt is now...
Because we see young John Hurt in the first movie
and he's like a 25-year-old man.
Yeah, right.
And then 10 years later, he's John Hurt.
He's John Hurt older than John john hurt from the first hell boy but with darker hair with darker hair yeah i mean i guess
if you stand next to a demon for 10 years that's what it does that's probably true yeah but yeah
i guess it's kind of nice to to um to get him back this one made 160 million on an 85 million
dollar budget that's much better yeah i think you think that they'd do a three, yeah.
But it's still not amazing, which again makes me think,
for them to even consider it, it must have had a good home release situation.
Yeah, for sure.
You get that Blu-ray combo.
You get these two, and you get the one where Ryan Reynolds and Jeff Bridges fight.
R.I.P. Dave.
Yeah, that one.
Yes, absolutely, you get those two.
You get all those together. Okay, makingges fight. R.I.P. Yeah, that one. Yes, absolutely. You get those two. You get all those together.
Okay, okay.
Making of notes.
Yep.
Guillermo del Toro and Mike Mignola,
creative Hellboy,
spent a few days adapting
the Almost Colossus storyline from Hellboy,
which has a character called Roger the Homunculus.
Then they found it easier to create
an original story based on folklore
because del Toro was planning on making Pan's Labyrinth
and Mignola's comics were becoming increasingly based on mythology.
So they sort of combined.
Right, okay.
I think it works.
Look, I think it mostly works.
You know what?
I think maybe to me it was kind of jarring when I went in.
I'm like, there's a lot of golden stuff and elves in this.
Clockwork men and pointed ears?
I don't think so.
Yeah, Mignola described the theme of the sequel.
The focus is more on the folklore and fairytale aspect of Hellboys.
It's not Nazis, machines, and mad scientists,
but the old gods and characters who have been kind of shoved out of our world.
Yeah.
I get it.
Feels God of War-ish in that way, the new one.
Have you played the new God of War?
No.
I know you've played Doom.
Yeah.
Maybe we'll talk about it later.
We'll talk about it later.
I really love the elf prince in this.
I love the performance.
I love the fighting style i love the makeup it's
luke goss and i'm like who is this guy yeah but he's the guy who's the he's the new statham in
the death race sequels oh right that's pretty much okay but i feel like from this yeah this
guy should be in more things he's so good in this like you really feel like he's fighting for his
people and he's dangerous and he loves his
sister, but he's mean and you know what I mean?
Yeah, right.
I think he's really great.
I think you just relate though because you're also fighting for your people, podcasters.
I love my sister.
Yep, exactly.
The dog.
The dog, exactly.
Because I don't really have a sister.
That's right.
Yeah.
But no, I think he's really good.
And so is the, so he's an English actor.
I wrote this down.
I forgot to write this.
Former drummer in the late 80s band Bros.
Bros.
Bros.
Bros.
Bros, yes.
Bros, yeah.
Not Bros.
Well, it's spelled Bros, right?
You remember Bros.
I don't.
When will I...
Oh, that's them.
When will I be famous?
In 2008, Hellboy 2.
That's when he'll be famous.
Yes. Yeah. Yes. And also, yeah, so he's in the Death Race sequels and the Tekken movie. Be famous In 2008 Hellboy 2 That's when he'll be famous Yes
Yeah
And also
So he's in the Death Race sequels
And the Tekken movie
Which I did not know
There was a
Tekken
I was aware of it
Movie
Yeah
Liz is back
She's pregnant
That's a big plot point
Of this movie
What's it like to be a dad
We'll never know
Because it ends
It ends on a freeze frame
I've forgotten
This ended on
A cliffhanger of sorts.
Yeah.
That Liz is pregnant with two Hellboy twins.
Yes.
Yeah.
That's probably from the comics, right?
I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I've got to read some Hellboy, man.
Yeah.
So I love the troll market stuff in this.
There's more weird boogly creatures and he fights that giant monster with a metal hand on a chain.
I know.
And like smashes its hand.
Luke Goss.
Luke Goss, man.
Luke Goss.
He's in Bros.
He's in Bros.
He's in Blade 2.
Is he?
Yeah.
Which kind of spiky faced vampire is he in that?
I don't know.
Interesting.
Probably a bald one because he himself is bald. Could be it, but he's not bald in this. Maybe he wears a wig in Blade 2. i don't know interesting probably a bald one because he himself is bald
it could be it but he's not bald in this maybe he wears a wig and blade too we don't know yeah
what are you up to lucas that's right is there going to be a bros reunion i think there has
been recently good yeah i hope they try because you know uh maybe it's like a um maybe it's like
a demi more situation oh okay demi more for 20 years and then she was demi more yeah maybe it's like a Demi Moore situation. Oh, okay.
Where she was Demi Moore for 20 years and then she was Demi Moore.
Maybe it's like, yeah, we're bros now.
Deal with it.
We've got a gritty rebranding.
We're bros now.
I would enjoy that very much.
I remember seeing this the first time, the transition to Doug Jones' voice. Jug Jones.
To Jug Jones. It's a little jarring. Jughead's voice to jug jones it's a little jarring
it's a little jarring but he's great he's still you kind of settle into it pretty quickly i found
anyway and it makes sense that he would voice his things as he does that's true everything else yeah
exactly yeah yeah do you like the offhanded comment that myers that's his name i've written
it down here i was transferred to Antarctica?
Yeah, he's gone.
Yeah, it's good.
He's bloody out of here.
I don't know about this reveal to the world, the world doesn't like him storyline.
I'm not sure about that.
Yeah, right?
Does it make it less interesting that if everybody knows him and...
And there's a moment where he's like protecting a baby and she's like, don't hurt my baby.
He's like, I'm not, he's your baby.
She's like, don't take my baby.
And he's like, I'm literally giving you your baby back.
I do also feel like he could have put that baby down much earlier.
Oh yeah, for sure.
Because there's a scene where he fights the giant plant.
Which I love.
Don't like the squid, love the plant.
The last plant, the last of his kind. Elemental or something? Yeah, the last plant elemental, I love. Don't like the squid, love the plant. The last plant, the last of his kind.
Elemental or something?
Yeah, the last plant elemental, I guess.
And he fights him while holding a baby
and also hanging off the side of a building.
And I'm like, yeah, you could definitely
just put the baby on top of the building.
Well within your reach.
Definitely.
You climbed up there with the baby.
At one point, you fling the baby in the air.
That's going to do lasting damage to a baby. Do not fling a baby. Never fling a baby. Never ever. there with the baby. At one point, you fling the baby in the air. Yes. That's going to do lasting damage to a baby.
Do not fling a baby.
Never fling a baby.
Yeah.
Never ever.
Even I know that.
Even you, of all people.
Someone who'll never touch a baby.
Yeah.
Because you know why?
Because I'm afraid I'll fling it.
I've been too easily influenced by-
Holly Weird.
Holly Weird.
Yeah.
That I'm like, well, look, I've got to put this thing in the microwave.
I better fling the baby while I do it.
Then I'll just put the- Put this popcorn in. Put the popcorn in the microwave. I better fling the baby while I do it. Then I'll just put the popcorn in the microwave.
I'll close it and then I'll catch the baby.
Don't do it.
It's dangerous.
Just don't.
It's long-landed.
Just don't.
But you know what I do like?
What's that?
Johan Krauss.
Oh, voiced by Seth MacFarlane.
Seth MacFarlane.
I had no idea.
Yeah.
So it's fully a guy in a suit with his head hidden
I assume
Right, yes
Because
Because the top
They've made it look like
He doesn't have the top part of his head
I like to think that it isn't that
It's one of those wacky
Inflatable
Waving inflatable arm men
Like and they literally just pump it up
Before every scene
And they hope for the best
Yeah
They have it wave its arms And then just dub it over the top yeah but i thought he was a really interesting and fun
addition yeah see that's i enjoyed that as well and that i think that is that's the that's going
back to like mad scientists and nazis and what have you like he seems he's a he's a man who
experimented on himself several steps too far and became like an ectoplasm man yeah don't you don't just don't
just don't i mean it's too late but i mean yeah it's you don't cry over spilt milk or ectoplasm
no just don't do it don't do it yeah i like the things like uh when they go to the troll market
and they use more kind of tech he's got the glasses so he can see the troll lady uh-huh yeah
yeah uh there's other little things i can't even think of another example but there's bits and
pieces in this movie they're like oh that's a fun little addition but you're
right though it is more it's probably less magic here than the first one like less less less like
this is a bone that resurrects the whatever sorcery yeah we're just we're in a magical realm
i do like the blade where you get the blade in you and then you can't it's going to go into your
heart because don't touch it oh yes uh-huh But I feel like that elf king only beat him because he was drunk.
Because it comes off the back of Hellboy and Fishman Magoo.
Yes.
Getting very.
They get so sourced, don't they?
Absolutely wasted.
Claire's always loved that scene where they're sourced and they're singing.
She finds that really fun.
But, and so he was half cut.
Yeah.
Because the next time they fight.
And then fully cut
the next time they fight
he's much more sober
and there we get another cliffhanger
where in that
we go to the Moors
I guess
and we encounter that
Pan's Labyrinth-esque demon figure
who's like I can save you, I can save Hellboy
but he's going to destroy the whole world.
And she's like, fine.
Whatever.
We'll figure, we'll find out what's going to happen with this in the sequel.
Yeah.
Never again.
Never again.
They'll probably continue it in a comic.
Yes.
That I'll begrudgingly read.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, there are the Hellboy comics.
No, I mean in this universe in particular.
Oh, I see.
Right.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah that that demon angel
thing with the big plate on its head or whatever that's that's a real guy in there it might even
be doug jones i don't know that for a fact but yeah but i really enjoy they just put more makeup
and foam over the top of his existing they're like well we could take the apesapien makeup off
but it's gonna take hours he's, just put another layer on me.
I don't care.
I don't care anymore.
Just bury me in this shit.
Yeah.
But I think the finale in this is better than the first one.
I love the room of cogs slash the golden army
and the gas man gets in one.
You know what I mean?
I felt it was a bit laboured,
but I guess the point of that scene is that
you can't defeat them ultimately.
You could do it forever and a day.
That's right.
But they're going to come back.
And then that where he's jumping in between the cogs
and he's fighting Luke Goss.
Yes.
We know now from the band bros.
The band bros.
Band bros.
Yes.
They're band bros.
Band bros.
But it is kind of, it's an uplifting, fun,
what's going to happen next ending that we will probably never see.
Correct.
The sequel to, which is a shame.
But again, what, just, you know where we'll find it, James?
In our imaginations.
I don't want to look there.
That's right.
Don't make me.
You try and it's just like a list of bills you have to pay.
Council rates.
Anyway, all in all, Hellboy 1 and 2.
Good films.
Agreed.
Go in expecting a little bit Men in Black-ish.
Yeah.
I think coming into this, if you hadn't seen them earlier,
you might be like, this is a little hokey and a little dated.
But I think overall they're quite good.
I do wonder if objectively yeah with
this new one coming out based strictly off a hellboy story with a lot of the characters brought
straight from the comics in there for the way they normally are i wonder how it would compare
like this new reboot to say the first one well we'll never know will we well i just think
no because i think like in seeing the new one i feel like there's always going to be an element of me like well it's i kind of like ron perlman yeah
which is kind of a shame for this new one but uh i'm hoping it's great i really would love it to
be great i think i will come around i recently re-watched ant-man yes fun fun fun film fun ant-man
fun i think i'm gonna go into this i i think i know myself well enough at this point that i'm
gonna be like,
well, it was a little bit different with Ron Perlman.
I don't know if I... I mean, it would have been great if we got Ron Perlman back.
And I think the second one I'll be like, Ron who?
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
In your face, Ron Perlman.
You did a good job, but we don't care anymore.
We don't care anymore.
Also, we should point out he did reprise the role in a Make-A-Wish video.
Well, not just a video.
He did it for the kid as well. He wanted to meet Hellboy, so him and the kid got the full Hellboy. That was the last time he was in a make a wish uh video or not just a video he did it for the kid as well
he wanted to meet hell boy so him and the kid oh got the full hell boy that was the last time he
was in the makeup get up oh they also made up the kid yeah made of the kid yeah i don't think to the
same extent right but uh it's really fun we're gonna close up all your airways for 10 hours
here we go so yeah could you could you put on that makeup? For, like, months on end.
Yes.
Yeah, probably.
I mean, I'd be bad at the role.
So, I mean, if I was a good actor, which I'm not,
you might see me doing a bit of bloody voice acting this week, though.
Oh, because you're the new voice of Hellboy.
I am.
Wow.
Hello, everybody.
Look out.
This gun's got some bullets.
Yep.
Is that a line from the movie? That's what he says
My gun's got some bullets
I like these guns
Yeah
He's got the big gun
What's it called?
The one that
The baby
He's got the big baby
Big baby
And he's got the hand
The big hand gun
Yeah
I think
I think I've had nightmares about
Not putting on any kind of Hollywood style makeup
Yeah
But I think getting moulded for the makeup Oh yeah Because I think I've had nightmares about not putting on any kind of Hollywood style makeup, but I think getting molded for the makeup.
Oh yeah.
Because I think these days, I think there was a, there was a, they had a breakthrough
at one point, like a few years ago where they're like, yeah, we can just do it in segments
and it's fine.
But I believe up until a few years ago, it was just, they put two straws up your nose
and then they just cast your entire hair and you had no like eyes covered, mouth covered,
whatever. And it's like. They went for lunch. Yeah. And you had no like eyes covered, mouth covered, whatever.
And it's like.
They went for lunch.
Yeah, they went for.
Because I have like.
I get some clogged. I get a clogged schnoz from time to time.
Yeah, probably.
I die in there.
You die.
Yeah.
I don't be too polite to just tear it off.
I'd be like, oh, this is setting and I'm going to die.
But it's expensive.
I don't want to make a scene.
The casting people are going to get mad at me.
So they can't put a mouth hole going to get mad at me, so.
They can't put a mouth hole and kind of get a rough idea of how to do it in the final thing.
I don't know.
Because the mold is normally for a bust, which they then build off.
Yeah, right.
That's the general idea.
Well, anyway, it's never going to happen, so don't have to worry.
We'll see.
Unless we want to do it for video content.
I wouldn't do it for that. I wouldn't for video content. I wouldn't do it for that.
I wouldn't do it either. I wouldn't do it for all the tea in China.
Oh, no, I would.
I'd be so rich.
I'd have all their tea.
You're going to sell it.
I'd keep it.
I'd just keep it.
Wow.
Yeah.
Okay, here we go.
You know what it's time for?
Is it time for more Luke Goss facts?
Have you got some?
He was born in Lewisham, London, the son of Carol and Alan Goss.
Okay.
That's hot Goss.
It is hot Goss.
Since 1994, he's been married to backing singer Shirley Lewis.
Okay.
He's worked with Elton John, George Michael, Luther Vandross, and many others.
They have a stepdaughter.
They've moved permanently to Los Angeles, but still maintain a residence in London.
Well, you'd have to, wouldn't you?
Yes.
For Hollywood.
And for bros reunions.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, he's been in a lot of movies.
Yeah, he's been around.
Yeah.
Oh.
Oh.
I love the effect where the people die from that universe
and they turn into like an ivory person.
That was great, yeah.
Great stuff.
That's a great effect.
Because you know they really made ivory people to do it.
Like they would have made the actual.
Yeah, okay, sure.
It's just a good kind of weird folklore
kind of look
yeah
any more Luke Goss Goss
looks like it was
on an episode of Fringe
it's a good show
everyone loves that show
never seen it
okay that's good
that's about it
great
yeah
that's the tooth
that is the tooth
tooth fairies
yes good
you know what it's time for
what's it time for
what we're reading
oh what we're gonna read
I'm doing a thing
What are we reading today?
Yes
You bought Doom, Mason
I bought Doom
Yeah
People didn't think I had the guts
I didn't think you'd do it
To buy Doom
But I did, I bought Doom
The only thing you like more than buying Doom
Is not having people hassle you for not buying Doom
That's correct, yes.
Did you get people asking you before you bought it?
A lot of people tweeted.
They said, buy Doom.
Get Doom.
You've got to get Doom.
So I got Doom.
You got it pretty early in the week as well.
I did.
I wanted to really get the Doom experience.
Now, we didn't stipulate that you needed to play Doom.
But I did play Doom.
You did play Doom.
I did play Doom.
Update.
It's good.
I like it a lot.
you did play i did play doom update it's good i like it a lot it's um what i like about it actually is that initially like the the the place they sort of shove you into a certain play style
which is not the way i would play a kind of this kind of shooter game which is i hang back
yeah i'll look around corners and i'll snipe like i'll find a position and a lot of new games are
that as well right it's a lot of like duck behind this wall yeah get your health back i'll find some cover i'll wait exactly there's no
there's no health regen it's like an old school yeah it's it's like old doom it's like but if
you just do that the monsters will find you and destroy you yeah so like it really encourages and
i i was initially hesitant but then i'm like no this is good like you gotta move you've got to
just get in there yeah and just start ripping heads off because you get health and benefits health benefits yeah you get health
benefits from killing so the more you kill they cancel your insurance if you don't if you don't
get in there and kill yeah oh man it's good it's there's uh all the classic stuff's back the shoddy
the chainsaw you're the same guy launcher presumably. No, I think you are, because... Yeah, you are.
I got in...
I very much got into the Doom lore.
Oh, yeah?
Like, the history of Doom.
Mm.
Yeah.
So, you've been...
So, you were reading a lot of the manuscripts.
So, you've been trapped in hell for a long time, yeah?
Yes.
Yeah.
People don't like you there or whatever.
So, you're not the Doom guy from Doom 3, which is a different game.
Different Doom, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I'd like to do some Doom stuff for the new doom game.
Maybe we won't talk about it because we're not a video game.
We can still talk about it.
We can probably touch on it,
but I'd like to do either the doom movie,
either of the doom movies coming out or the one that's out in the new one.
Yeah.
Doom.
Yeah.
To video.
No,
but it's,
it's,
it's,
I'm enjoying it.
Yeah.
Will I finish it?
Who knows?
I haven't finished it,
but it's not for lack of
loving the game Doom
yeah
do I enjoy the
Relentless Metal soundtrack?
not so much
but it's fine
I find
I've found to be fair
the play loop
got a bit samey for me
yeah okay
sure sure
and I kind of dropped off a bit
but I'll probably finish it
at some point
I think I'll finish it
just to get
I want to see like
your Cyberdemons and your spider master
yeah i enjoyed that they like the updates yeah i like the update i enjoyed that they uh they
they remade all the a lot of the old old school monsters from the original like just the imps
yeah they've made them like really even even just them because they're like the second monster you
fight but they're like they can run and find cover yeah and like snipe you from a distance yeah like get up on a thing yeah exactly yeah
yeah they'll run they'll retreat to a to a vantage point and attack you and all that sort of stuff
chainsaw's good as well agreed yeah anyway that's my review of a game from three years ago
got doom it's good look forward to his review of monkey island 2 next week yeah it's it's also good
i haven't played it recently but it's still probably good
do I have any more thoughts
about Doom?
probably not
it's pretty sick
just Doom if you can
just Doom yeah
not don't
I also watch
speaking of things from 2016
I also watch Colossal
oh that guy
I keep seeing that on Netflix
it's the
Anne Hathaway
Jason Sudeikis movie
about a
like a
like a
New York party girl
who moves back to her hometown and then discovers
that she has some sort of connection to like a monster,
a gigantic monster that's destroying soul.
And it's a metaphor.
I think it's a metaphor.
Have you seen it?
You watched the whole thing,
sorry.
I mean,
I know you saw it,
sorry.
Yeah.
You finished it.
I think it's,
I think it's meant to be a metaphor about domestic abuse.
Okay.
But I'm not sure.
I think maybe some wires got crossed in the production of that movie. Cause it's not, it's not great. No, I'm not sure I think maybe some wires got crossed in the production
of that movie
because it's not
it's not great?
no I liked it I think
okay
anyway that's my review
of a movie
from three years ago
excellent
I've got a more recent
thing that I could
discuss
we should do more comics
because I read
multiple comics every week
and I feel like
I'd talk about them
I read a comic as well
but we can talk about it
in a minute
is it Criminal?
it's not Criminal
Criminal is a Brian Michael Bendis comic I'm aware of we can talk about it in a minute. Is it Criminal? It's not Criminal.
Criminal is a Brian Michael Bendis comic.
I'm aware of it.
You do mean it's an Ed Brubaker comic?
Yep.
What are you thinking of?
Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. I'm 100% right.
It says I'm right here.
It doesn't say who it is.
It just says James is right.
No, it doesn't.
No, I don't think that's true.
No, I don't think it's true at all. It ed brubra are you reading uh all my heroes my heroes
have always been junkies is that what you've been reading no i haven't read that but criminal is
basically i i believe it's more of an anthology thing though some issues two and three tied tied
together it's just some criminal activities but two and three in particular about a an old an old
comic book artist who's grumpy and mean but he's
done some wonderful stuff in the past but he's he's jaded and he has to he's gone on this kind
of adventure to recover some particular pages and you find out about his past and the comic book
industry and there's a lot of nods to like real world stuff and it's great and if you love brian
michael bennis's work you might just love ed brubaker's Criminal. Yeah, there's three issues at the moment. Good save.
And they're long as well.
That's like, you very much,
that strikes me as like somebody in like a high school exam
who's read the wrong thing.
Like the thing about,
what's interesting about Macbeth
is how similar it is to Hamlet.
And here's the themes of Hamlet.
Yeah, that's it.
No, Ed Brubaker,
people would know him from the Captain America,
sort of Death of Captain America storyline. Bucky's it. No, Ed Brubaker, people would know him from the Captain America, sort of Death of Captain America storyline.
Bucky's job?
Yeah.
He did a series for Image called Sleeper,
which came before Criminal,
which is kind of like it was about a supervillain,
like a superpowered man who goes into like the criminal underworld like the super
villain underworld like undercover to to undermine it and then his handler disappears
and everybody thinks he's a villain for real and kind of like he has to navigate that underworld
and then i think criminal which came afterwards they were just brew baker was just like i don't
want to do superhero stuff anymore i just want to do like the crime stuff gripped him.
And I think he's like, well, I'm just going to do crime now.
But there's one that came out quite recently called,
or my heroes have always been junkies,
which is the most recent criminal thing,
which I'm going to get into, which looks pretty good.
But I read a comic book,
which I believe was recommended by Levin's and Siobhan on Serious Issues Podcast.
It's called The Terrible Elizabeth Dunn versus The Devils in Suits.
And it's based on the premises, but it's a one-shot.
And I think there might be some more coming later.
The premise is basically...
You should buy this right now.
You should buy it right now.
So I don't know if it's digital.
I bought it for reals.
I don't do that.
No, I do actually okay anyway so basically the premise is that uh 20 years ago there was a man
and he met the devil and he said okay i want to be rich and successful the terrible uh the terrible
elizabeth dunn d-u-m-n okay uh and he uh he he meets the devil and he's like i want to be you
know rich and successful and the devil's like sure like i want to be you know rich and successful
and the devil's like sure thing but i'll give you you you have to give me the soul of your
firstborn son oh and then then 20 years later he comes to collect and the dad's like you can't have
my son how about you take my daughter instead right so great she's been preparing because
she's she's like the black sheep of the family and the dad sells it to the devil
in the sense of he's like,
they say she can't be tamed.
She's so terrible.
She's the black sheep of the family
and he's like, I'm intriguing,
but of course she's untameable
and she doesn't want to borrow this
and she's been preparing for this moment.
She knew it was coming.
She knew it was coming.
She's sort of been preparing and she meets some other characters and it's it's a bloody good
good old read it doesn't look like i can get it digital so i am gonna buy it i should have just
brought it over well mason it's too late for that that is too late if wishes were kisses
we'd all be kissing each other you know what i mean i get it what yep yep exactly wow this
this new this this new setup where we're staring directly into each
other's eyes i think it's gonna be good for the long term i think it is gonna be good for the
long term i think you've yeah we've drifted apart because i've been on the couch and you've been at
the desk that's right yeah yeah it's like couples who sleep in different exactly yeah i'll show up
next week and you will have cut out like a foot from the middle of the desk and it'll be shoved
slightly closer
alright
what are we
should we do some letters
do some letters
if anybody has some
comic book recommendations
for us
I would like to hear
oh yeah man
so speaking of letters
weeklyplanetpot.gmail.com
please do
let us know some
recommendations for comic books
cause
or you know
serious issues
of course
covers all the great
all the good stuff
yeah
but if you've got some kind of left field recommendations old you doesn't matter or even like if you're like You know, serious issues, of course, covers all the greats, all the good stuff.
But if you've got some kind of left field recommendations.
Old you, doesn't matter. Or even like, if you're like, Justice League's good now, we'll hear about it.
I'm not, nah.
You're not going back?
I'm not.
Never go back to Justice League?
Not at this point.
Letters?
Yes.
Letters.
The classic one was letters, oh letters, we love you.
Some letters, they're only a day my way. I know they're here right now, we love you. Some letters, they're only a day away.
They're here right now, we're going to do letters.
Quick side note.
Yeah, Claire's mum.
The mother-in-law's here.
The bloody mother-in-law's here with a friend.
We're so out of the way, Mason.
I know, right?
It's the best.
They could be plotting to divorce you.
No doubt.
Probably separating the beds as we speak.
That's right.
But you wouldn't know because we're here.
We're here and we're luxuriating.
Oh, this is what a man cave is all about.
We should put some stuff in here.
No.
No, never.
Okay.
By the way, it's still a regular room.
If you want to reach the show, as you said, as Mason said,
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a lot of people
have requested this
have you guys
watched any of
Love, Death and Robots
if so
what are your guys
opinions
if not
you should
I haven't watched
any of it yet
I've watched all of it
yes
some good
some not as good
okay
define good though
what's good to you
do you mean
subjectively good?
Or are you just like, this is poor animation?
No, none of the animation is poor.
A lot of it is different styles.
There is one live action one with Topher Grace and Mary Elizabeth Winstead in it.
Okay, cool.
Which is fun.
There's a lot of like, I feel there's a lot of like, this is for adults.
So boobs, you know, I feel like it's a bit kind of like you can.
So they're the good ones.
They're the good ones they're the good ones obviously yeah i'm not i'm not inherently against that but i feel like what
is what do you what do you feel like it's a bit um i mean there's plenty of dongs too you want to
see some yes absolutely yeah but sure but i just feel like it's like well but nudity and sex because
it's like for the for the yeah we can you know that kind of thing. But no, I mean, like any anthology series,
there's some I enjoy more than others.
There's one in particular called Something Blue.
I can't remember.
Anyway, it's about an artist who developed this obsession
with this particular shade of blue and putting it in his work
on a larger and larger scale.
And then you find out the reason for it at the end.
That one I really, really liked.
Is it a metaphor? Is he blue? Is he sad? No, it's not. There find out the reason for it at the end that one I really really liked is it a metaphor
is he blue
is he sad
no it's not
there's a literal
explanation for it
which
yeah
and again
if you don't like one
and I don't think
does he look out
his window one day
and it's just the wall
the building next door
is painted that colour
and he's like
oh yeah
that sounds right
yeah
but no
so it's
it's a lot of
different stories.
Okay.
And some are better than others, and some are spooky, and some are fun.
Do you feel, is it animatrix-y?
Yes.
Okay.
Definitely.
Yeah.
Good comparison.
Okay.
And some, you know, some of this and some of that.
So it's not all the one animation house?
No.
Oh, I don't, it doesn't appear to be.
I think it's David Fincher and Tim Miller.
You know, Tim Miller.
Deadpool Tim Miller. Deadpool Tim Miller.
Deadpool Tim Miller, who's behind a lot of this.
But yeah, here we go.
What are you being bloody, no.
What are you doing for letters?
What do I have for letters?
Are you going to watch it?
Just quickly.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, cool.
This is from Mark Reed.
Hello gents.
That's us.
We're gents.
More like Mason Reed.
I'm reading it.
That's correct, yes.
Are there any movies that you're not a fan of
spelled differently
probably
R-E-I-D
you nailed it
it's like you've read
this email already
are there any movies
that you're not a fan of
but you think the music
main theme is great
I personally don't like
Lord of the Rings
however I enjoy
that main theme
fair
yes
okay Sunshine
has an amazing theme
because some people
don't love them
but you love Sunshine
I know I do
we both think it's the best movie of all time.
Yeah, right.
But that theme has been used in a lot of trailers and montages on YouTube
of probably the movie Passengers.
Yeah, right.
Absolutely, yeah, yeah.
Oh, I see, right.
That's interesting.
I don't care for Iron Man 3, but the Iron Man theme,
the Iron Man 3 theme, so jazzy.
I love it.
So jazzy. Bum, bum, P Diddy Godzilla song that whole album's a
real banger yeah I mean I guess uh Tron I don't really Tron Legacy you love Tron Legacy I don't
hate it but that soundtrack is killer yeah that's the best album Daft Punk's ever done really my
opinion okay yeah I'm just putting in best movie soundtracks and seeing if we've got any that don't but that soundtrack is killer. Yeah. That's the best album Daft Punk's ever done. Really? In my opinion.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm just putting in
best movie soundtracks
and seeing if we've got any
that don't necessarily line up
with the Garden State.
Here's one that's almost
certainly dated
but at the time
the Spawn soundtrack.
Oh, certainly, yeah.
Which was something
that I don't think
has ever happened again
which is they,
it was just,
they got original collaborations
from like metal dudes and electronic dudes
and teamed them all up.
Yeah,
right.
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you want me to look up what's on that bloody thing?
Yes.
What's on it?
Yes.
I've immediately forgotten what you said.
What was the name of the album?
Spawn.
Spawn.
That's the one.
I couldn't remember the name.
Spawn soundtrack.
That's it.
We got.
Filter and the crystal method is on there, obviously.
Of course it is.
I think there might be a Silverchair.
Really?
There might be a Silverchair collab on there.
Okay.
Yeah, so, yep.
Trip Like I Do, which is the filter crystal method.
Yeah, that's right.
Hard Road Out of Hell by Sneaker Pimps and Marilyn Manson.
Oh, so 90s.
Yeah.
Satan by Kirk Hammett and Orbital.
Kick Out the PA.
Kirk Hammett from Metallica.
I assume so. No, it is. Kick Out the PA Kirk Hammett from Metallica I assume so
No it is
Kick Out the PA
Which is Korn and Dust Brothers
Tiny Rubber Band
Moby and Butthole Surfers
This is the most 90s thing I've ever seen
Oh my god
From Who the Bell Tolls
Metallica and DJ Spooky
I know that one
Torn Apart
Stabbing Westwood and Josh Wink
Yeah I know that one
How many of these have held up
Probably none of them
Skin Up Pin Up By 808 State and Manson.
Oh, I remember Manson.
They were from like Bristol or something.
Yes.
One Man Army, The Prodigy, who recently leads singer past and Tom Morello.
Spawn, the Spawn song just called Spawn is Silverchair and Vitro.
Yeah, yeah.
T4, Strain, Henry Rollins and Goldie.
Familiar, Incubus and DJ Greyboy.
Yeah.
Do you care about this?
There's three more.
Yeah, yeah.
No Remorse.
I love DJ Greyboy.
No Remorse, Brackets, I Wanna Die, Slayer and the Tari Teenage Riot.
These are all combinations of bands, yeah.
A Plane Scrapped, it's Ballet Honor.
And then it runs.
That being said, like, I don't know how many of them were collaborations in full.
Yeah, right.
Trip Like I Do is like, there's like a version that is just, I think, the Crystal Method version.
And it's pretty much the same.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah.
You know, I think maybe it was a case of they got the band in to do their thing
and then they just added some meeps and moops over the top.
Yes.
Maybe I'm wrong, though.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe it was an entirely collaborative process.
Maybe they all got to...
Maybe every band got together and they were like, okay...
Pick a number.
No, they lined up all the rock bands
and they lined up all the electronic hip-hop guys
on different sides and they all got to pick and so somebody in somebody there got last pick
like oh i got goldie i was gonna actually say goldie but i couldn't remember if anything goldie
i don't know much about goldie goldie any good fine one of the best i hear yeah uh a plane
scrapped its belly on a sooty yellow moon
by Sol Koffing and Ronnie Size.
Oh, Ronnie Size.
I don't know that.
And this is not a dream by Morphine and Apollo 440.
Oh, Apollo 440.
So that's definitively the answer to the question.
How about this?
In future, we scrapped...
Look, new venue for the recording of the podcast
gotcha
every week after this
we scrap the letters segment
and we just read out
we just read out
like a music compilation
from the 90s
we just go
oh my god
you didn't believe it
you didn't believe it
hey jealousy
oh my god
gin blossom
oh gin blossoms
there they are
yeah
I'm just looking through
Batman Forever
has got a do you like that soundtrack it has got some good stuff in there, man.
I bet it does.
It's got Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me.
It does, that's true.
By U2.
Yes.
And.
Doesn't it have a Smashing Pumpkins song?
It's got the one that goes.
And it's got Kiss From A Rose, of course.
Of course it does, yeah.
Which everybody knows.
Nation of Eagles is written in
and this entire nation of eagles has said hashtag weekly planet pod after cap marvel had great
success dh and do you think disney will use dh extensively in other properties also such as
indiana jones do you think they dh harrison ford to do another movie or two of indie v nazis
i think they'd like to yeah but again i again, I think, speaking of Captain Marvel, again, and I think we mentioned this a couple
of weeks ago.
Well, last week.
A couple of weeks.
When we did it.
When we did it.
It's not important.
Why am I banging on about it?
Why am I dragging this out?
Let's stop.
But the look was great, but the movement was not so great.
You can tell that he's pushing 70 or whatever age he is.
Like you could put, yeah, you could,
I think you could very easily make, you know,
Raiders era Harrison Ford.
There's so much footage.
There's so much footage and you could,
I think you'd make it look good,
but can you make the action look good?
Yeah, that's a fair point.
Unless, I mean, you could also just,
you could just get a young stuntman and paste harrison well can you can you paste can you
paste uh i guess i mean i'm sure you can put someone else's head on face yeah definitely they
did it for christopher lee in like 2005 for yeah yeah i guess it might be a function of you go okay
you get the stuntman to do the stunt then you get harrison ford to like lie on a green screen log
or whatever and make reaction faces old harrison ford to like lie on a green screen log or whatever and make
reaction faces old harrison ford and then you euthyfy that yes but like that that is so many
stages of disconnection yeah from what is happening in the action sequence that maybe it's going to
look weird well that being said a lot of the action sequences in the first india and the three
indiana jones or the four they're not harrison for Like, he did a lot of it, but there's...
Vic Armstrong, his name is Harrison Ford's stunt double.
Most of that amazing stuff is him.
Yeah, right.
Especially Temple of Doom, because he injured his back.
Yeah.
But, like, the stuff from leaping from the horse onto the tank,
like, that's Vic Armstrong.
That's Vic Armstrong, right.
There's a whole...
So I just think just get a reasonably convincing stunt man.
Yeah, and I guess a lot of it's hidden in editing.
Yeah.
That's the thing.
These days, people don't want...
I think people don't want stuff hidden in editing,
and they can kind of see through that.
If you see somebody jumping from a horse to a tank,
and you can just see the back of their head,
you're like, well, that's obviously not me.
Come on, mate.
Come on.
We want to see very old Harrison Ford,
Grumpy Gramps Harrison Ford,
leaping from that horse to that tank.
Agreed.
Yeah.
I think we'll probably get more of it.
I don't know.
I think they maybe should just recast if they're going to keep doing more.
They're not going to, though, because, I mean,
how well did that work last time?
Yeah, but he's going to die anyway.
I don't mean that in a bad way.
You mean that in a good way? You mean that in a good way?
I mean that in a good way.
Thank God, finally.
No, I mean as in you're going to continue the franchise probably anyway.
Yeah, right.
And he's quite old.
Yes.
So maybe it's just time to switch it out.
Yeah, for sure.
Anyway, we'll find out after this very average Indiana Jones movie we're going to get in two years or whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think we're probably going to get some DH stuff in it.
We've talked about it before.
I think you could do 70% modern day, 30%.
Yeah, for sure.
Absolutely, yeah.
Well, we've mentioned before,
but I would like to see 30% Nazi stuff.
Yes.
That sounds bad.
That's also how we're going to outfit the studio.
And 70% modern day with him hunting down Nazis.
Because the Nazis went on the run. There's a bunch of them escaped. Yeah, right. studio and 70% modern day with him hunting down Nazis when,
because the Nazis went on the run, there's a bunch of them escaped.
Yeah. Right. And there, there were,
people are still out there finding these 95 year old men.
That, that, that means, but he can't like, he's not a Nazi hunter.
That wouldn't mean him pivoting to, is he just after an artifact? I think it's just a thing that he missed at the time.
And now he has to go and fix that particular thing. He's got a thing that he missed at the time and now he has to go
and fix that particular thing he's got a wrong that needs to be written rewritten right yeah i
get it i get read yeah it's good it's got to be readed yeah yeah okay yeah sick sick but you know
an overall overall trend though i mean it would only work for like beloved franchise stuff i feel
like there's no there's no point just taking an old actor and de-aging them for no reason yes i agree you know and i mean you could you could get an old
actor and go be like i'm back in the past remember when this happened it would just just don't show
that yeah that's the cheaper option isn't it don't do it yeah just say he did it i'll just say he did
it or just get a younger actor yeah be the young version of them we don't have a phoenix the good
dh you can bring back reva phoenix to be young indiana jones. River Phoenix. The DH, you can bring back River Phoenix to be young Indiana Jones.
Exactly, that's right.
Get Sean William Flannery,
to whatever his name is,
to do the body.
The guy who played him in the show.
Sean Patrick Flannery?
Whatever, Mason.
I thought, okay.
You're like Stifler.
Did Stifler do it?
Get him.
He's alright, Sean William Scott.
Has he done recently?
I don't know.
But remember that one movie with The Rock?
We talk about it all the time.
All the time.
Yeah, I mean, there's no reason,
unless it's an iconic character that we've already seen young decades ago,
there's no point.
Agreed.
So why waste the time and the money?
Agreed.
Unless it's just to see if we can.
That's right.
Yeah.
Okay, that's the show.
Who's the worst?
Who's a character you would definitely not want to see de-aged?
Definitely not?
Or definitely do want to see de-aged, I wonder. I was to see de-aged i wonder i was just thinking young anthony hopkins just really de-ageify him they
actually did that for um red dragon there's a little bit of de-aging in that just a little bit
yeah uh let me think do you want to see bruce willis young diehard yes young diehard but but
like really a really full what i full a really full head of hair
just like
just like they de-age him
and he's like
don't give me a widow's peak
give me like a
I want the whole thing
I want the whole thing
just a flowing mullet
he would too
yeah
give me the whole thing
give me the works
exactly
bring the widow's peak back
Bruce Willis
I agree
well he doesn't have it though
no that's true yeah
so maybe you de-age him
to 1997.
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
To his, you know, to the fifth element era of hair.
Did we talk about that?
That apparently he only does one day of shooting on any given movie now?
Any movie?
Yeah.
Even if he's the lead?
I don't know.
But that's what I saw that on a vlog at some point.
And I think that makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, it does.
Like if you don't, if you see his character on screen and you don't see his face it's a double yeah that explains gi joe yeah it explains most of
his moves i think maybe it's if he's not the lead if he's like if he's not top billing his
writer says i'll do one day and that's it okay fair enough so you know okay good on him yeah
good he's just loving just love the work just don't Just don't, Bruce Willis. Just don't, Bruce Willis. Just retire.
What do you need to keep doing?
Does he have...
Is he paying a huge divorce settlement still or something?
I can't imagine he would.
To Demi Moore?
Well, these kids are grown up, so...
To Bros Moore?
I can't imagine so.
No, you wouldn't think so.
Because isn't it depending on it...
Because it's after your kids grow up, isn't it?
A lot of the time? I don't know. I don't it depending on it, because it's after your kids grow up, isn't it? A lot of the time?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Apparently it depends.
Apparently in Canada, the divorce settlement is you have to, the alimony payment is the
amount of money you earned at the most successful year of your career.
Holy hell, that is.
Which makes sense if you're like an accountant or something.
Because it's like, well, you went from, you know, $70,000 a year to $75,000 a year or whatever.
So that's,
you know,
that's,
but if you did a song on the spawn soundtrack,
exactly,
you're going to peak right there.
But that's what,
that's apparently what,
exactly.
That's apparently what happened to Brendan Fraser.
Cause like he,
he,
you know,
at one year he made,
you know,
tens of millions of dollars cause he's in the mummy movies and whatever.
And then,
you know,
his star dropped right off,
but his divorce settlement's like like we have to keep paying as
if you made 10 million dollars they should reassess that law i think they should happen
to dave foley as well he's also canadian i think dave which one's here again the news radio guy
yeah news radio the kids in the hall oh he would have made a lot of money in that era yeah exactly
yeah so that's yeah good thing he did sky high yeah this may or may not be true I've read
I've heard this in interviews
but I don't know if that's
with Brendan Fraser
crying
maybe it happened to Jim Carrey
is he Canadian
yes
okay right
did he ever get married though
Jenny McCarthy
Jenny McCarthy
I don't know if they were married
okay
let me just check if Jim Carrey
I'm gonna check Canadian divorce laws
alright
let's do some googling
he's 57
yeah that makes sense
he's been married twice sorry
oh
former comedy store waitress Melissa Womer.
And also Dumb and Dumber co-star Lauren Holley.
Yes.
I wouldn't say Dumb and Dumber would be peak Jim Carrey, though.
No.
Also, he's probably an American citizen now.
Maybe it's different for him.
Yeah, maybe it's different for him.
Also, I don't know what I'm talking about.
So there you go.
Mason, you know exactly what you're talking about.
I know exactly what I'm talking about. I'm a Canadian divorce lawyer. That's right. That's my, yeah. Also, I don't know what I'm talking about, so there you go. Mason, you know exactly what you're talking about. I know exactly what I'm talking about.
I'm a Canadian divorce lawyer.
That's right.
That's my two qualifications, podcaster, Canadian divorce lawyer.
And this is also why you're the best at wrapping up the show.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Because you always know.
I always know all the things.
Okay.
Article 1 of Canadian divorce lawyering.
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