The Weekly Planet - 277 The Hellboy Movies

Episode Date: March 25, 2019

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Starting point is 00:01:47 Weekly Planet. No, that's what they say. That's what my grandmother always used to say. If you mess up the intro of a podcast in your new podcasting space the first time you do it, you're going to mess up the podcast intro every day for the year. Okay. Is it like breaking a leg in stage as well? It's a good thing when you're like, break your legs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Traditionally, it's, hey, hope your Patreon gets cancelled. That's the podcast equivalent of break a leg, yeah. This is the show where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason. We're in the new space. That's right. So it's not finished yet.
Starting point is 00:02:22 We don't have a video-related set yet. But we've decided to move the stuff into the new space. So we've got a the new space. That's right. So it's not finished yet. We don't have a video related set yet. But we've decided to move the stuff into the new space. So we've got a whole new dynamic. For the purposes of sound quality and sitting under an air conditioner. That's absolutely right. Yeah. So we've got a lot of space to the side. And ordinarily you'd be at the desk and I'm on a couch.
Starting point is 00:02:39 But now the desk has been, there's no couch. The desk has been positioned lengthways and we're across it yeah like we're not across it as in we know what we're doing no absolutely not but we are well i'm at one end and you're at the other end we're like two we're like a we're like a really rich couple that don't get along anymore at two ends of the long dining table like when bruce wayne invites vicky vale over for dinner yes good reference i it. We're back on track. Yeah. So it's a whole new dynamic.
Starting point is 00:03:07 So we're directly across from each other now. I'm trying not to look directly at you. And also the dog doesn't know what's what. The dog has no couch to leap on anymore. No. No frames of reference. She attempted to lick the carpet like she does with every cloth item we own. Is she under you?
Starting point is 00:03:23 Yeah, she's under my feet now. Okay, yeah. She was sitting in the sun for a little bit. So she's got space. She's got stuff to do she under you yeah she's under my feet now okay yeah she was sitting in the sun for a little bit so she's got space she's got stuff to do anyway I feel good about this me too
Starting point is 00:03:31 yes do you feel good about this though hello Star Wars news no okay why would I this isn't easing me
Starting point is 00:03:38 into the new space at all I think this is good news regardless of whether you're a Star Wars fan or not you should have just you should have just you should have just softballed me in with like
Starting point is 00:03:47 just stuff that I'm already comfortable with you'd be like hey did you hear that about something about comic books from the 90s and I'd be like
Starting point is 00:03:55 I have heard that I'm very comfortable with those things but I think this is good news here's some Savage Dragon news it's still going it's still going somehow Taika Waititi this is good news all round,
Starting point is 00:04:06 is voicing IG-88 in The Mandalorian. Or one of the versions of IG-88 because in Legends there's like at least four. Yeah, right. But maybe he's the oddball New Zealand one. Or maybe he's just a... Maybe just regular IG-88. What do you think about that?
Starting point is 00:04:23 Like Korg's voice, but it's IG-88. I think you could put a fun little spin on it. i think there's probably like a i am i absolutely reckon there'd be like an ig88 bible like every character would have a bible and it'd be like he he acts like this and he reacts like this and he talks like this and i think he's gone okay i can take that and i can do a little spin on it which i think would be good he's talked about before because he is directing an episode or a couple of episodes that you can't take the humor as far as you would with say thor there's like star wars humor and you you we hear this all the time from people about the last jedi like there's definitely a line and i believe there is i don't think you can just do anything yeah right and he said it's it's the line is different than a marvel movie
Starting point is 00:05:01 yeah for sure right yeah exactly it can't be it can't slip over in this kind of nod-wink, self-parody kind of thing. Are you looking forward to seeing this broom of a robot? Yeah. Clanking about? I guess so. I'd like to see. Well, I mean, did he get any action beats in any of the other movies?
Starting point is 00:05:17 No, he stood there. He stood there. And then I think his corpse shows up in Return of the Jedi in the junk room down the bottom. Yeah. Because I guess at the time the technology wasn't available for him to do anything absolutely not because it was again he was just a was there was it was just a static figure it didn't move i think also he's a he might even be a piece of like the bar in the first star wars oh and they've
Starting point is 00:05:41 they've repurposed like the head is like Like the head is like an urn or something. Yeah, right. Yeah, they just used anything and everything in those movies. So, yeah. I think this is great. And it's a fun little picture. There's also a Mandalorian Iron Man helmet just sitting there, which is also, you know, not relevant, but it's cool.
Starting point is 00:06:01 It's a cool thing. It is cool. Here's a cool thing, though. I'm ready. Do you love Bill and... Is it us because the air conditioning is on yes well i just turned just a fan now because it's i don't know we got to get used to these settings mason this is mostly going to be us changing settings on the air conditioner isn't it like do we leave the door open do we close the door shoes off or shoes on shoes looks like a shoes off space
Starting point is 00:06:21 looks like yeah yeah i you said which side do you want? This may change in the future, but I wanted the side where I can see both doors. Yes. Born identity style. I want to know where all the exits are just in case. You want to know what's coming. And also, if it starts raining, I'm going to go get my shoes. Good point.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Great point. Bill and Ted's. I've actually written Bill and T's. We all know what you mean. Yes. Bill and Ted 3 Face the Music has a release date of August 2020 okay cool cool yeah I love those movies did you watch that little video I didn't I know I also did it's one of those things like Alex Winter and Keanu Reeves yeah okay yeah right I want to see it I will see it I'm very excited
Starting point is 00:07:00 but no yeah it showed up a whole bunch of times on twitter for me and i just was like they're they're there and they're making bill and ted-esque gestures and i'll get to that eventually and i didn't and they've aged spectacularly they're probably saying dude a lot i hope they are one of the writers for the original bill and ted he put up on twitter a whole bunch of like pre bill and ted like notes and sketch ideas i've seen some of that and it was really kind of fascinating apparently they were they were characters that he and a friend of his performed
Starting point is 00:07:29 sort of live on stage a bunch of times oh really okay and then they were like we should write a movie and then they were like
Starting point is 00:07:35 let's bring Bill and Ted into this kind of thing and originally Hitler was going to be in it so but they went with Genghis Khan instead Genghis Khan
Starting point is 00:07:42 still a murderer but they went with Napoleon instead okay right he's more fun and short and he's further away yes But they went with Genghis Khan instead? With Genghis Khan. Still a murderer, but... They went with Napoleon instead. Okay, right. Because he's, you know... He's more fun and short. He's more fun and he's further away in time to laugh at.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Yeah, that's it. But yeah, that's kind of fascinating. I can't remember the guy's name, but if you look that up, that'll be... I remember seeing something about the original Time Machine, but I don't remember what that was. I can't remember. But I love the idea of the Time Machine. They've clearly gone the anti-Doctor Who. You just cram into a box. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:08:07 And I really like the second one. I know that's not... It's probably more beloved now than it was at the time. I think so too. But I think it's great. It's got some really interesting ideas in it. And it's not just the same thing of like, let's grab so-and-so through history.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I agree. It's the afterlife and robots and doubles and whatever. It's great. It's really good. But if we're talking Keanu Reeves... The newest trailer for John Wick 3. Jonathan Wick. Perineum.
Starting point is 00:08:30 That's right. We'll never say the correct name. Never, ever. Why would we? John Wick's not real. He can't get us. So we can say whatever we want. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:39 We have a dog too. He can't get too mad at us. My dog would be torn in half by John Wick's dog. It would be such a dog too. Yeah, we've got a dog. He can't get too mad at us. My dog would be torn in half by John Wick's dog. It would be such a short fight. These take place over the course of a week, I guess, these movies? What, one, two, and three? Well, they must because one and two are back to back. And then this is when he escapes, when everyone's after him.
Starting point is 00:08:58 And he's like, I'm going to kill everybody. I'll do it. I'm John Wick. Wow. It's a tough week. Yeah, that's right. And there's the Matrix guns lots of guns reference
Starting point is 00:09:06 yeah okay yeah but he's not the one who says that in the Matrix or does he no he is no he does yeah it sounds weird in another movie right
Starting point is 00:09:13 when he said it I'm like that's very jarring yeah yeah that'd be hopefully the follow up is he's like
Starting point is 00:09:19 guns lots of guns and the guy's like we have two guns and this backpack it's got two guns in it that's all i could get for you sorry no bullets i know you're expecting more guns yeah you'll have to buy your own bullets or fashion your own yeah so i kind of was on board late to john wick i came
Starting point is 00:09:37 i think my kid was born that year or something so i didn't think you're gonna say my kid introduced me to john yeah he loved it i don't think i've seen either of these are the movies actually the first two i've definitely seen this one in the movies. I have also not seen either of them at the movies. How did we miss them? I don't know. Were they big in Australia? They were late, I think, actually.
Starting point is 00:09:52 At least one of them was late. So, yeah. But, look, if... And, look, this probably isn't a good way to go about things, but if it's the same as the other two, action-wise, that's good enough for me. Pretty good, yeah. Just a guy running through a nightclub. But if it's the same as the other two action-wise, that's good enough for me. Pretty good, yeah. Just a guy running through a nightclub.
Starting point is 00:10:07 He punches you with a gun, then he shoots you with a gun. Shoots you with a gun, exactly. You get hit with a gun and you're like, oh, thank God. Oh, what a relief. He had that gun and I thought he was going to shoot me. Ow!
Starting point is 00:10:18 My brains! He did shoot me with a gun. He did shoot me in the head. Okay, I've written here, Is This Anything? Right? Okay. Dog Wick. It's a spin-off. Yes. He did shoot me with a gun. He did shoot me in the head. Okay, I've written here, is this anything, right? Okay. Dog wick. It's a spin-off.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Yes. It's just the dog, and he goes through the animal underworld. It's called Dog Wick. It's called Dog Wick. I like it. Or John Dog. That's probably not as good. Dog Dog?
Starting point is 00:10:39 It's called Dog Dog. John Wick, but it's his dog. What about that? Okay, so wait. Is he... Okay, so I like the idea a lot. I like the idea a lot. Is he a dog with guns?
Starting point is 00:10:51 Or is he just a dog attacking other dogs? Because that's real gruesome. That's different, isn't it? Yeah. That's a different... See, I don't want a cats and dogs situation where they're all... You know, it's all CGI cats doing cartwheels or whatever. How about this, though? How about John Wick takes his dog to the dog park yep and he has to and john
Starting point is 00:11:10 wick then has to go and do like get a hot dog or something at the hot dog cart and in the meantime john wick's dog sees some sort of dog related injustice yeah relating to the other dogs yeah but it's not like they're not they don't talk or anything okay this is a silent film okay film. Okay. This is like, remember, you know, at the start of Who Framed Roger Rabbit, there was that weird baby short. Do you remember that? Yeah. And that baby was really Al Pacino or something. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I can't remember who voiced it. This is going to be like a Warner Brothers short at the front of John Wick 4. Yeah. It's called Dog Wick. Or John Dog. Or Dog Dog. Or Dog Dog. But then he, so then it's sort of like he has to like, there's no overt violence.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Okay. Except at the end when he tears another dog's throat out. He'll have to. But he sees another dog bullying. He sees one dog bullying all the other dogs. Yeah. And he's like, well, this will not stand because I'm John Wick's dog. Dog Wick.
Starting point is 00:11:58 John Dogg. Dog Dogg. Great. I would like it to be also like, are you familiar with Phineas and Ferb? Sort of They've got a pet It's a cartoon They've got a pet platypus
Starting point is 00:12:09 And it doesn't do anything But it's a secret agent So it goes down a little tube And then it's got a little hat And it goes and stops a world ending plot So while they're doing Like Jughead's dog hot dog Is that what Jughead's dog hot dog does?
Starting point is 00:12:21 Okay interesting Maybe a Perry the Platypus Jughead dog dog spin off Yes Get it all together Jughead's dog hot dog does? Okay, interesting. Maybe a Perry the Platypus Jughead dog dog spin-off. Yes. Get it all together. Jughead's got a TARDIS. Speaking of the TARDIS, he's got a TARDIS-like dog house. It's got all sorts of stuff in it.
Starting point is 00:12:34 All sorts of stuff in it. Man, Archie goes everywhere, doesn't he? Yeah, that's right. I mean, Jughead's busy being in the Time Police, obviously. I understand that. I know exactly what you mean. I didn't just hear that for the first time now. Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:12:46 I know things that you know too. Yeah, that's right. Anyway, dog wick. I'm on board with dog wick. Okay, good. So I reckon eventually the bully dog is going to end up pushed into a pond or something like that. Okay, cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Just some lighthearted fun. Yeah. Okay, gotcha. And he's maybe a poodle, so all his hair goes all weird. And his owner's like, come on, you're in trouble now. That's his comeuppance. His owner says you're a bad dog, which is the worst thing you can be as a dog. That's the worst thing you can be, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Here we go, new trailer. A lot of trailers this week. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Yeah, right. Quentin Tarantino's ninth film. Ooh. We know that because it says it's his ninth film in the trailer. I guess I would have thought more or less.
Starting point is 00:13:25 I think the only one I haven't seen is Jackie Brown. Jackie Brown's good. Yeah. I'll have to get into that. The only reason I haven't, because he didn't write that one, so I'm like, how does it feel comparatively to the other ones? Do you know? I mean, you've seen it.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I have seen it. About the same. Okay, I'll take that. Yeah. Yeah. But no, I like this trailer quite a bit. Yeah. So it's the golden age of Hollywood where nobody could act and everything was bad.
Starting point is 00:13:48 That's not true. A lot of movies were bad. Yeah. But the ones that stuck around are mostly good. Do you buy that Brad Pitt is Leonardo DiCaprio's stunt double? Not in for a second. All right. If anything, it's the other way around.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Yeah. And look, obviously it's Leonardo DiCaprio, but it's the other way around. Yeah, right. But who's the better actor, would you say? I think it's DiCaprio. You're probably right. Like, I think Brad Pitt is underrated as an actor. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:13 But I think DiCaprio is still a better actor. I think DiCaprio has probably tried more and different things. Yes. I mean, they've both done old man makeup. That's true. That cannot be disputed when DiCaprio was Howard Hughes and Brad Pitt was... They've both done heisty style movies.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Yes, that's true. Catch Me If You Can. I love Catch Me If You Can. It's a good movie. Catch Me If You Can. It's a great movie. So... Do we get much of the plot
Starting point is 00:14:35 of this movie? What's happening here? No, I know there's a Charles Manson... I can bring up the synopsis. How about that? But Charles Manson, I know, plays a role.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Yes. Should be called Once Upon a Time in Bloody Hollywood, am I right? That's really weird. It's 1969, Los Angeles. Television star Rick Dalton and his longtime stunt double make their way around a changing industry
Starting point is 00:14:53 that they hardly recognize anymore. That's interesting. That's an interesting twist. It's an interesting change of direction for Quentin Tarantino. I mean, he sort of leant very heavily into westerns recently. Yeah, I'm kind of glad he's out of that. Yeah, me too. I didn't like The Hateful Eight.
Starting point is 00:15:09 I didn't hate it. I didn't hateful hate it. Oh, yes, you didn't hateful hate it. Yeah. Apparently, it also features a large ensemble cast, which we see in the likes of Margot Robbie and other people. It weaves multiple storylines in a tribute to the final moments of Hollywood's golden age.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Oh. Yes, there you go. So this is, yeah. And also, I like the inclusion of like the Bruce Lee. I'm like, that guy's Bruce Lee's dead on. Yeah, right. And I love that joke about- But guess what?
Starting point is 00:15:32 It's Brandon Lee. What? That's right. That's how they got it so accurate. That's crazy. Yeah. But I like that joke about my hands are lethal weapons. I'll go to jail if I kill somebody.
Starting point is 00:15:43 If anybody kills somebody, they go to jail. It's bad sort of whatever. Yeah, I like that. But we get some, I don't think we've had a Brad Pitt choreographed fight scene like that before. Because Fight Club is just men just clashing into each other. That's true, yeah. Punching each other in the nose or whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:58 But no, I think I'm really excited for this. I know there's been a slight shift in Tarantino films since his longtime editor, whose name I can't remember. She died a few years back. Oh, yeah, that's right. And that was maybe after Inglourious Basterds. I don't know. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:16:13 But, yeah. Mm. Bloody Hollywood, you know what I mean? More like Hollyweird. More like Hollyweird. Here's a fun fact, because I was in a doctor's office and I read an article from several years ago about Candice Bergen, Murphy Brown.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Yeah, okay. You remember Murphy Brown? Of course I do. They're bringing that back. Are they? Well, they have. Okay, right. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Okay. Well, she used to live with a man named Terry Melcher. Okay. And who was, I believe, a record executive, a record producer. Yeah. And then they moved out of that house and Sharon Tate moved in. And then Sharon Tate was murdered by Charles Manson's followers. And the implication seems to have been, people dispute it,
Starting point is 00:16:53 people go back and forth on it, that Charles Manson murdered Sharon Tate to send a message to Terry Melcher because Charles Manson was knocked back for a record deal. Because, again, he was one of those lunatics. Wasn't this also tied into the Beach Boys? Yeah, one of the Wilsons, I think. So isn't that bloody something? That bloody is something.
Starting point is 00:17:14 That is something. Actually, the guy who plays Bruce Lee, Mike Moe, I looked up his stuff on YouTube where he's doing various martial artings. Oh, so he's a... Yeah, he's a real martial artist guy. He's very good. So what have we got here? I'll give you some more names.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Do you think he... Okay, without the Bruce Lee hair and the sunglasses... Yeah, that does a lot of the work. Does he look anything like Bruce Lee? Not really, but the voice that he's doing is pretty bloody dead on. Yeah, right. So Margot Robbie, Al Pacino, Dakota Fanning,
Starting point is 00:17:44 Bruce Stern, Emile Hirsch, Luke Perry, who recently, right. So Margot Robbie, Al Pacino, Dakota Fanning, Bruce Stern, Emile Hirsch, Luke Perry, who recently, this will be his last role. Scoot McNary. Scoot McNary's back. Yeah, so. Was he the man with no legs? Yeah, the man with no legs. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:56 So there's a lot of really great names in this. Terrific. I'm really hoping it's good. Does it look like he's going to resurrect anyone's career in this one? I would say Luke Perry probably would have been the one. I mean, Luke Perry was... Oh, maybe Emile Hirsch. He's kind of quiet.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Sid Speed Racer. Yeah, it's not a dead career. He's been working. But Bruce Dern? Who's that again? He's an old man. Is he related to Laura Dern? He probably is.
Starting point is 00:18:21 He probably is, right? More like Holly Weird. Yeah, that's what I said. Holly Weird coincidences. Let me check. A probably is, right? More like Holly Weird. Yeah, that's what I said. Holly Weird coincidences. Let me check. A couple of seconds on it. Laura is also an actor. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Unless it's a different Laura Dern. Unless it's a different, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, cool. Cool. Okay. That sounds all good.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Mason, it's story time. It's ad time. It's story time. Oh, I love it. Wait a second. So when my parents told me stories back in the day were they just advertisements just oh no so the fairies that went off to coca-cola land they were that was just that was oh no that's right wow oh man and the three little bears that porridge was a brand
Starting point is 00:18:59 of porridge i couldn't think of a brand of porridge it It doesn't matter, Mason, because once upon a time in 2009, two guys set out to make the perfect tea, a tea that's like an old favourite from day one, perfectly broken in and absurdly soft. The names were Mike and Adam. Now, remember those names, Mason. Is it significant? No, you don't have to remember.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I was going to say. But the thing about it is because they created marine layer and what they did with their first batch of tees that they bought, they got an old V-Dub bus to transport them. So they were feeling pretty good about their investment. But nine years later, well, ten years now, and a few credit cards, two buses later, they built a brand around these absurdly soft shirts. What do you think happened to the buses?
Starting point is 00:19:39 That's a good question. Do you think they drove them off cliffs? Do you reckon they did? I reckon they did, yeah. That's a cool part of the story. They did a Thelma and Louise style. They were on the run from the cops because their T-shirts were too good. Too good, too soft.
Starting point is 00:19:51 And too value for money. The cops were after them. So they were like, well, better drive this off a cliff. They don't only make T-shirts, though. Now they're branched out into Henley's jackets, pants, and sweaters. You get it. It's all designed in the Marine Layer workshop in San Francisco. And it's all really soft. Now, layer workshop in san francisco and it's
Starting point is 00:20:05 all really soft now they're so soft mason i'm wearing one right now you are wearing it a delightful handling right now it's so great claire hugs me more than i'm wearing this this is not an exaggeration at all yeah she's like oh so soft and i'm like it is very i mean i am she's like not you the the shirt can you leave me in a room with the shirt, please? Take your shirt off. Now leave. Put it on a pillow. Get out. Yes. What have you got of theirs?
Starting point is 00:20:30 I got a pair of jeans. I thought I'd try out the pair of jeans. I haven't got the jeans. Did you buy those jeans in addition to clothes that you bought? Yes. Actually, I can. They gave us a little per diem. They gave us a couple of credits towards buying some stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:47 But I'm like, I'm going to buy some more stuff because it looks good so i got a pair of jeans i got a little bit of stretch in them which is nice for when i'm feeling chunky yeah i hear a little bit of stretch in them they're very nice and i got a i got a tee which is very soft they would not line i would also chase them in their van and i got like uh like a like a terrycloth sweatshirt which is real that's my that's my pick of the bunch the softest sort of? Yeah, it's like wearing a towel. A terry towel? A terry towel. Very good. It's like wearing a terrycloth robe in public, except acceptable.
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Starting point is 00:22:06 Trailers also for one trailer for Stranger Things Season 3 They're all grown up It's not the 80s anymore No It's still the 80s It's the late 80s But it's later in the 80s Later in the 80s
Starting point is 00:22:16 And the friends aren't as much friends anymore They can't be Ghostbusters anymore They've got to be Serious adults and grown ups Yeah But there's also a monster. And maybe the dimension hasn't finished coming into their dimension. Hasn't finished dimensioning yet.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Do you think we're going to have some sort of satisfying... Do you think it's going to be three and done? Or do you think we're going to drag this out for as long as humanly possible? I kind of hope it's three and done. Me too. Yeah. I liked two. Not as much as one.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Because I think the side plot of the new X-Men. I hope it's three and done. Me too. Yeah. I liked two, not as much as one. Because I think the side plot of the new X-Men, the new X-Men kids that they kind of went and, which was fine. I didn't actually hate it to be fair. I don't hate that episode either. I know that a lot of people going into that, a lot of people like episode seven or whatever it was, this is ruined it kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And I'm like, no, this is, take a chance, you know? Yeah, absolutely. And I think it's, you know, if people a, there would have, if people had responded well to that, I'd imagine there would have been a spinoff. Already, yeah. But no, I don't know whether this is the last one, but there's a different monster. Yes. And is it a conspiracy?
Starting point is 00:23:17 That's what I've written here. Is it? It seems to be a conspiracy because there seems to be a lot of guns with silencers on them. Yeah. That, then you know it's a conspiracy. That points to conspiracy, I think, because you want to shoot somebody but make it a bit shush-shush. That's right.
Starting point is 00:23:27 You know? Shh. Hush. Hush. Hush. Don't tell anybody the secrets. Don't do it. When is this out?
Starting point is 00:23:33 Are you going to tell someone the secrets? You are. Pew. Pew. Pew. Pew. Shh. Pew.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Shh. You know? When does this debut? I know it says in the trailer. Yeah. Let me check that. A lot of people have suggested that? I know it says in the trailer. Yeah. Let me check that. A lot of people have suggested that this monster that we see in the trailer is one of the kids, I think. It feels like it could go that way, especially the one who was trapped in the dimension,
Starting point is 00:23:53 but the dimension that wanted to be our dimension. Yes. Get out of our fucking dimension, man. Yeah. Take your shit back to your dimension. Exactly. Your weird goopy trees and your bug men. Fuck off. we grew here you also grew here but in a different way
Starting point is 00:24:10 like a goopy kind of creepy way you know don't do it we've had it up to here with you but I will absolutely watch this we've had it up to here with you and also down from there with you because your dimension is upside down so we've had it up and also down wherever it to be yeah that's where we are stick to there for you yeah yeah i
Starting point is 00:24:30 wonder whether this will wrap up after this though i hope so um i want i want some answers i think what do we need to know yeah well that's also it i don't see that what do you want i don't know because i want to where this because's, what answers could I possibly get where the dimension come from? It was just there, I guess. It was always there. Yeah. But where did they build their own bad 7-Elevens or whatever?
Starting point is 00:24:54 Yeah, so, I mean, exactly like, I guess maybe the question is, was it spawned from our dimension? Was it created and then flipped upside down? Like when they opened it, it kind of created it? Yeah, did someone on Earth create the dimension? Yeah. Was it created and then flipped upside down? Like when they opened it, it kind of created it? Yeah. Did someone on Earth create the dimension? If so, who? If so, who?
Starting point is 00:25:11 And don't. Don't. It's a conspiracy. Because why is the other dimension like a ruined Earth city kind of thing? Good questions all around. They are a good question. Is it the future? Could be the future.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Could be the future. That's actually a good point. It could be a post-apocalyptic situation. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Bad 7-Elevens. Which is to say 7-Elevens. They're okay.
Starting point is 00:25:34 They're very convenient, aren't they? They're the epitome of a convenient store. Definitely, yeah. And they're not even 7-Eleven anymore. They're 24 hours a day. 24-7-Eleven. Amazing. Yeah. Oh. Here we go. even 7 till 11 anymore. They're 24 hours a day. 24, 7, 11. Amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Oh. Here we go. This is more for me. Dog's back in the sun. Yeah. You love that dog. That's good for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Stay away from John Wick's dog, though. That's right. Dog, dog. Just check the tag. If it says dog, dog, you're in trouble. Back away. Supernatural will end after 15 seasons. I wrote that down for you
Starting point is 00:26:05 i'm like just in case you missed that somehow i would never was there a sad video where they were like guys listen there was i didn't watch exactly if it's not on youtube or even if it is on here okay here's the deal if it doesn't if it doesn't come up in my recommended youtube like when i open the app or i put it to put it my TV, if it doesn't come up immediately, I'm not watching it. It's gone. Then they were like, guys, we've had a good run. Yeah. But we've done this for 15 years. There's been too many. I can't, what, 2005 this started or whatever it is?
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yeah, right. Which is crazy. We were so much younger then. And so were they. And yet they look the same and we look worse. What's that about? Hollywood. Yeah. Yeah. So I hope these guys go on to do other things. Because I always felt like they were both very good.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Yeah, right. And continue to be very good in these roles. I could easily see one as a Green Lantern or a Nightwing or whatever. Yeah, or Red Hood. Or Red Hood. I think Jensen Aples dressed up as Red Hood for Halloween one time. And he voiced him in the Red Hood movie. That's true, he did, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:02 So, yeah, there's definitely room for that. But I would also hope that you'd be okay with him just doing nothing after this yeah sure if they wanted to do that that's fine also this is a is this a network show this is like a it's cw okay right it's one of the longest running yeah i get the sense that if you do this show for 15 years you probably have the money to not do anything else so if. So if they're like, listen, I'm never doing anything again. I'd be like, of course. Yeah. Now I dropped off probably four or five seasons ago,
Starting point is 00:27:30 but it's always my plan to go back. Yeah, now you can. Now I can and will. I think this is going to be, I mean, this could very well be one of those ones where I know a lot of people, especially on the Planet Broadcasting Facebook group, have said now that it's going to be done, I can start on this. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Where it's like, okay, now that I know it has a definitive end point, I can go through and knock it all off. And I think it, for me, the pinnacle was season five, and then there's a couple after that, which I don't love. But then it does, it brings in interesting elements of...
Starting point is 00:27:59 Does it recycle something? I mean, they all die and come back, obviously. A lot of kind of like in the first season, it teaches you the rules where it's like, okay, if you want to kill a ghost, you find the body and you burn the body and then the ghost explodes. And then in season two, it's like,
Starting point is 00:28:10 we burnt the body, but the ghost is still here. It's a magic ghost. Not a magic ghost. What's that even? But then there's like a lock of its hair in a basement somewhere that they got to find or whatever. So once they establish all the rules, they never kill a thing really like that again
Starting point is 00:28:27 because it's always like another wrinkle to get it done. Do they become like ghostbusters in the sense it becomes just like a blue collar, like, ugh. It's a bit of that, but it's more kind of like, hell's going to spill over to the earth and the angels are really a bunch of dickheads. Yeah, right. And, you know know is that god
Starting point is 00:28:45 i don't know i'm not up to that bit yet if it's gone or not but no it's great it's a good show okay uh okay here's i forgot to put this in but i just remembered uh batman is apparently the batman will be set in the 90s nice because i guess if it's a prequel if it even is is, because the Suicide Squad is a reboot but the Joker movie is not in the regular DC universe. Correct, yes. Do you think maybe they saw the box office success of Captain
Starting point is 00:29:14 Marvel and went... 90s baby. 90s will do it. I'd say they'd probably already planned it to be. Yeah, right. Because I know a lot of people, including us, were like Black Woman's a lot like Black Panther but you have to... you're so far along before... And I guess also certain things get in the zeitgeist. It's like, okay, well, the 90s, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:32 it's rolling in and there's nothing you can do about it. Kids in the 90s are now working in Hollyweird, mate. But I would like to see a scene where Bruce Wayne's in his, Bruce Wayne's in his, in his, in his chair and he's sitting there and he's like, he's done all his training. He's like criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot. How can I make them fear? And then like a blind melon CD crashes through the, through his window and he's like, I should become,
Starting point is 00:29:57 I should become the band blind melon. Does he have to replace one of the members? Is he all of the members? What are we, what are we talking about? Yeah, he alternates. He switches in and out. Okay, I got you. All these crime-fighting schemes involve him
Starting point is 00:30:11 quickly switching out of the outfits of various members of Blind Melon, which is probably pretty easy because it's always just different flannel shirts. And I want a Hey Jealousy montage. Yeah. I don't care when or how. Okay, that's not Blind Melon. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Okay, cool. It's just the 90s i want a breakfast at tiffany's brunch all right okay i can see that in the 90s yeah that's okay i don't think i don't think they're gonna lean too hard into the remember this shit yeah right i feel like the batman movies don't really yeah but that i mean that will also put paid to like your theory which one that the burton universe is oh no that i was gonna say put it's gonna put Batman movies don't really... Yeah, but that will also put paid to like... Your theory. Which one? The Burton universe. Oh, no, I was going to say it's going to put paid to something
Starting point is 00:30:50 that I feel like maybe has been overdone at this point. I think maybe the MCU has brought it to its biggest, like its overkill point, where everything's a floating hologram screen. Yes. You know, like everything's just in the air. I'd love lots of TVs instead. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Heaps of TVs. Heaps of TVs instead. Yes. How many did he have in just in the air. I'd love lots of TVs instead. Yeah, exactly. Heaps of TVs. Heaps of TVs instead. Yes. How many did he have in Batman Returns? Like one or two? Yeah. And a VCR, whatever he had in there. Yes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Yeah. Good on him. Yeah, we want heaps of TVs. Last bit of news. Toy Story 4 got a trailer. How does Woody feel about growing up and being a toy? Yeah. Is Andy?
Starting point is 00:31:23 No, he's not. But there's a new, there's a girl. Yeah. Why can't you just be a toy for yeah he's andy no he's not but there's a new there's a girl and yeah why can't you just be a toy for once what's my peep up to she left she's in a she's like she's a carnival fighter fighter yeah i'm not i like these movies a lot but i'm like this feels very familiar i should give it the benefit of the doubt yeah right but it's a lot of like the most important thing in the world is make a kid happy for for four years and then they'll forget you forever yeah right yeah okay i like the idea of building a toy like did you feel did you feel as as cynical for toy story 3 no not after i saw the trailer okay no okay uh but the look again benefit of the doubt
Starting point is 00:32:01 but a lot of the creatives from pix have moved on for various reasons. Yes. But I know that a lot of the team there, I think now do the Disney regular 3D animated stuff, like your Frozens and whatever. Oh, okay, sure. Which I think are also, I don't think now there's that much of a difference between that and like classic Pixar stuff. That's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Because there was an era when it's like, what about Disney's Bolt? It's a stunt dog voiced by John Travolta. What? What do you mean and why don't just just don't send that back to whatever hell dimension it came from send that back to xenu's house all right so yeah but no this trailer again benefit of the doubt the whole cast is back i like the idea that she built a toy and it became sentient. Yeah. I enjoy that. Uh-huh. But, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Interesting we didn't see that before. No. But it's not that interesting. It is interesting. It builds on the lore. But anything else? We'll see it. We'll do an episode.
Starting point is 00:33:00 We'll see it. Do an episode. Yeah. Mason Will Anderson, we mentioned him up top. He's actually a friend of the show. A friend of ours, Mason. Yes, that's right. Funny story mentioned him up top He's actually a friend of the show A friend of ours Mason Yes that's right Funny story though
Starting point is 00:33:07 No he's a friend of the show He's not a friend of us Yes I met him I saw him the other day He was hanging out with the show And I'm like What a minute
Starting point is 00:33:15 What do you What do you Why do you invite me He is notoriously One of the nicest men In comedy also Absolutely We met him independently
Starting point is 00:33:24 Of him Having toe-fop On Planet Broadcasting with Charlie Coulson, who's been on the show also. But I did some work experience on The Gruen Transfer like 10 years ago. And I met him briefly and he was very nice. And I was, you know, he could have thrown a coffee at me. That's right. But it was super nice. And he continues to be the nicest man, hardest working man in comedy, I would say.
Starting point is 00:33:47 You better believe it. And he's actually back with a new show from March 27th until April 21st in the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. Tickets on sale at comedy.com.au. You might know him from Willosophy, which is a great podcast. Tofop. Two Guys One Cup. Other various podcasts that he has been on and done.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Also, of course, The Gruen Transfer, which is a fantastic show on the ABC. It was on The Glasshouse. That is no longer a show. He's on Triple M's Breakfast Show, The Hot Breakfast. That's right. He does it all. And the thing is, I haven't seen this new show, but I did see his last one, which is absolutely fantastic.
Starting point is 00:34:19 I am going to see the show because why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't I? Also, they sell out very quickly. They're always packed. They're big venues, but they sell out. They're always packed houses. They're big venues but they sell out. They're always packed houses, yeah. Occasionally somebody will ask him, are you ever going to run out of Will-themed puns for your show? He's got
Starting point is 00:34:32 like 50 more. I've seen the list. He could live forever or at least 50 years. You know it. Yeah, that's fantastic. Got a review here though. It's five stars. A masterclass in comedy. He may be one of the biggest comedy exports, our biggest comedy exports with a masterclass in comedy. He may be one of the biggest comedy exports, our biggest comedy exports,
Starting point is 00:34:46 with a national profile on radio and television, but flying solo on stage is where Anderson truly shines. The man is on fire. You better believe it. That's right. Literally on fire. You've got to see that. He does it every night.
Starting point is 00:34:56 That's his closer. That's it. So that's... Look, the jokes were really good, but also how does he do that? Every night. Every night. That's Will Informed, March 27, how does he do that? Every night. Every night. That's Will Informed, March 27th until April 21st.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Highly recommended. Absolutely. Check it out. I can't believe they're paying us to do this ad because I would happily do this for free. We would have done it for free, I think, yeah. So, yeah, Will Anderson, if you're listening, you don't have to pay us for this. We'll just do it. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:35:23 All right, on with the show. Yes. Now, we can't do Us This week it is out yes uh because it's not out here yet please no spoilers for people who haven't said the spoilers same with the um we had an opportunity to see shazam on friday i had a wedding i'm not my own i'm only going to do that once hopefully no matter what happens i'm only doing it once and i couldn't get up yeah so i'm a little poorly but there's already information about what the post credits are and whatever we don't want that do not tell us if you can uh if you can just about get take it back yeah get rid of it i'll probably we'll probably get spoiled in a headline that's like can you believe
Starting point is 00:36:02 hawk man's in the post credits or whatever but yeah people are generally pretty good about that a lot of the time when we get spoiled it's just because people assume that we've seen or they're very enthusiastic
Starting point is 00:36:11 which is good but no so next week we'll do us also I'm getting my gallbladder out this week so I might not be around next week I'll probably be fine
Starting point is 00:36:20 it's just a surgery that's not apparently that big a deal and we're auctioning off your gallbladder for charity. That's right. You want just a weird gross bag filled with 10 rocks? You can have it. It's medical waste, right?
Starting point is 00:36:33 They can't give it to you. I want one of the stones. I'm definitely going to ask. Yeah. And then it will sit next to me on this desk. Great. Slowly melding with the desk. I just want to see it.
Starting point is 00:36:43 I don't want it. Just to go, fuck me. This is probably questions for with the desk. I just want to see it. I don't want it. Just to go, fuck me. This is probably questions outside the podcast. Is it a local anesthetic? They put you under whatever that one is. Oh, so a general anesthetic. Yeah, and it's keyhole. They go through your belly button
Starting point is 00:36:56 and there's a few cuts they make under your ribcage and they yank it out. They yank it right out. So they can't just put you in a local anesthetic. They can't just numb your tongue and then take the stone out and show it right out yeah so they can't like they can't just put you on like in a like a local anesthetic they can't just numb your tongue no and then take the gold like the stone out and show it to you no which i would prefer because we talked about this briefly before the show this is not comic book movie related there's time codes if you want to skip ahead but uh if you want to hear about how about surgery yeah time coded because the last i've only done it once and when i got my wisdom tooth out like 10 plus years ago, when you're out, you're just
Starting point is 00:37:27 gone. There's nothing. There's nothing. So if I go under and I don't come out for whatever reason, I'm just like, was that it? Like it's just infinite nothing. Yeah. So look, patreon.com slash Mr. Sunday movies if I die, so I can support my family from beyond the grave wow
Starting point is 00:37:46 but i'm not it's not a big deal you'll be fine they've done tons of these do you want me to be in the operating theater wake him up i'm ready with clamps yeah good and guns to make sure they wake me up that's right yeah yeah no you don't want that because i'm on a hair trigger at all times i'll be like gun to the gun to the guy's head and i'll be like if you don't wake him up and then somebody will come through the door, and I'll bang. And I'm like, oh, can we get another anaesthetist real quick? We've, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:38:13 What have we done? You done. Yeah. Not me. No, what you've done. You encouraged this. I did. Hellboy.
Starting point is 00:38:20 We're going to talk about the Hellboy movies, the two that we've got, not the third one, which apparently was Gimermo del Toro. How do you say it again? I always get it wrong. I say Guillermo, but I think I'm still incorrect. Well, it's closer than I am. Said it was always, he decided to walk away from this.
Starting point is 00:38:37 It was kind of his choice to kind of move on. What after too? Yeah, that was more recently, but he decided. So that's why they, and then it went to Lionsgate, and Lionsgate are now doing the new version, which is... I can't remember what story. There's a popular Hellboy story that they've adapted.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I can't remember what it is. Oh, it's Hellboy Fights the Chicken Footed House. Is the chicken... Volumes one and two. They're really packing it in. I think they're going to take a lot of the essential story elements out of it, because you can't compact that into two hours.
Starting point is 00:39:04 I don't... Yeah, that's adapting the unadaptable. Exactly. Is the chicken still in the house? We'll find out when we see it. But no, these movies are... There was two previous movies, 2004 and 2008.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Yes. They didn't do... This first one in particular didn't do super well. I'm kind of surprised it got a sequel. I think it must have done well on blu-ray or dvd or whatever because the first one made 99 million on a 66 million budget okay so it must have been home sales which got this yeah right over the line yeah uh that feels like but that also feels like they maybe they were hoping it to be like a resident evil style franchise where they make just, they make enough money.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Right. Unless. They go bigger in the second one though. Oh yeah, right, right. Yeah. So like, or maybe the Resident Evil franchise makes tons of money. I don't know. But like, it feels like maybe one of those, they were like, they were aiming for one of
Starting point is 00:39:56 those franchises where it's like, well, they make more, they make more than it costs to make. Yes. So let's just keep them rolling until they stop making money and then we'll just, you know, quietly kill it. We've had a few discussions about this during the week because we were supposed to do it last week. How do you feel about these now that it's been X number of years?
Starting point is 00:40:14 Well, it has been X number of years. Look, I still think they're good. Agreed. But I think I had this revelation on the drive over here. Okay. The second one feels quite Men in Black-ish. And then as I was driving over here, I thought about it. I'm like, wait a sec.
Starting point is 00:40:31 I thought these were cool indie left-of-center action movies. I'm like, did they just make these to cash in on Men in Black? Is that what happened? That's entirely possible. Are these just Men in Black carbon copies? I think they mostly out Men in Black, Men in Black? Is that what happens? Is that... Are these just... That's entirely possible. Are these just Men in Black carbon copies? I think they mostly out Men in Black, Men in Black for the most part. Yeah, I think they do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:50 There's more memorable characters. The first one, the first Men in Black is great. But yeah, I definitely... I think... See, I feel more that way about the first one because the... We'll be jumping around a bit in this and spoilers. But go watch them as well. I think maybe it's also like there are certain visual aspects
Starting point is 00:41:08 to the Men in Black universe and the Hellboy universe that I think they inherently share just because of like... The nature of the secret agency. The nature of the secrecy and the nature of the monsters. Where it's like, if you've got a tentacle monster, it's going to be flinging people about. And that was that feels like a very much a trope of the men in black universe like you see a background monster people are just having a chat and then they're just flinging agents about like we got that a lot in hellboy 2 i think yeah i think maybe
Starting point is 00:41:35 that's just a function of well if it's sci-fi and kind of supernaturally cthulhu-ish yeah aliens we're gonna get a lot of that maybe yeah but the first one because we've got that point of view character who disappears in between movies. Yeah, he gets reassigned. And I think they put him in because it's weird having a 50-year-old man in a demon costume. Maybe they got cold feet on that. Or maybe he's a very popular character from the comics.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I don't believe so. He wouldn't be more popular than Hellboy. But he's definitely our window in. No, he's way more popular than Hellboy. There's 50 issues of that guy. It's called that guy from the BPRD who got reassigned in the second movie. But when he enters the facility, there's a,
Starting point is 00:42:14 keep your hands inside the whatever, the secret elevator, he's walking through it. And that feels men in black. Yeah. Ish as well. And he's, and he's kind of your window in to like,
Starting point is 00:42:22 and there's this weird thing and there's a fish man, there's a demon man, this girl can shoot fire thing, and there's a fish man, there's a demon man, this girl can shoot fire and so on. But before that though, I think the intro, the 1945 intro or whatever it is, the flashback is really quite good. I agree. Where it's Rasputin summoning a weird tentacle Cthulhu monster
Starting point is 00:42:41 through a crystal or something. There's some clunky dialogue and it's in both of them yeah the exact same thing and which which i think comic book movie directors especially have sort of have leaned away from in the past but it's definitely in this one where some guy like you have to establish that he's got you know that he's different and he's got the right hand of doom and one of the characters are like he's got a big rock in his hand that is his hand, that's in both movies there's an easier way
Starting point is 00:43:10 to do that you're probably right, he's got a big stone in his hand you can't put it down put down that stone that's in your hand it is my hand though so it's also if
Starting point is 00:43:25 we're talking early 2000s early comic book stuff yeah it's got that fly through a bunch of stuff title x-men spider-man intro it does you know your things that i don't even remember what it is for hell boy just fire the clock works no it's it's fine it's there's a lot of fire and there's a bit of that and there's also a bit of there's a lot of newspaper cl there's a bit of that. And there's also a bit of, there's a lot of newspaper clippings. Yeah. Like who is the mysterious hell boy? Yes. Right. I call him hell boy. Who's the boy from hell?
Starting point is 00:43:50 Who's that? Tell us. He's got a Broadway musical, the boy from hell. What I think most of these movies do really well though. I think it's more, is he a bat? There's a bat boy and hell boy in a relationship.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Who knows? There's always something like that. Yeah. But I think the, both of these movies do villains well. Yeah. The first one, Rasputin, I love the clockwork, sand-filled Nazi. I think that's such a cool villain. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:44:17 The way he can kind of shut himself off and get into a facility and then he puts all his pieces back together. He's just filled with sand and meanness. I enjoyed that we don't get a full origin of Rasputin. It's assumed we, the audience, are not aliens. And that Rasputin we know somewhat as a historical figure and this is what he's become. He can't be killed.
Starting point is 00:44:39 I also enjoyed the fact that he is this unknowable evil and a lot of the rules don't seem to apply to him. He can just be like, okay, I'm going to create this monster and if the monster dies, there's two more. He can just do that. There's seemingly no limit to his powers because he's a villain. Those rules don't apply to him anymore. I think the plan was also to bring him back for the third one i think i read something about that but i like
Starting point is 00:45:08 he's riding the chicken feed house i'm back bitches i like the resurrection of him through the blood temple yeah thing or whatever but there's a lot of good there's a lot of great imagery in this i don't love the space cthulhu I love the space Cthulhu I remember at the time because we saw this together and we both were on the same page that we are now about that exact thing
Starting point is 00:45:30 we're like it's just a big squid no and I know it's like a HG what's HG HG Nelson
Starting point is 00:45:37 yeah HG Australian HG zone yeah no HB Lovecraft kind of situation I enjoyed the fact that they're they're just throwing it all against the wall to see what sticks. Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:48 And also that's out of copyright, so they can do this. They can do it. Although they didn't use Cthulhu specifically. No, they don't say that exact thing, but Rasputin's out of copyright. They do mention, though... Because he's real? Because he's real! He was never in copyright, ideally.
Starting point is 00:46:01 If anybody could be in copyright, he could probably make it happen, you know what I mean? But they do also mention that, briefly, that he's a guy from the 19th century and they shot him and stabbed him and poisoned him and they burnt all his organs or whatever. They do mention that in the movie, briefly. But yeah. What do you think of the characterization, the makeup, the performance of Hellboy?
Starting point is 00:46:21 How does that come together for you? Like, how does it stack up? Yeah. It's still good, I think. I agree. Let me think. He doesn't, like, even in, like, HHD, he doesn't seem particularly styrofoamy.
Starting point is 00:46:34 No. And there's a lot of him with his shirt off and fake muscles and fake chest or whatever, but it all looks pretty convincing. I think it's better in two. Yeah. And I think his colours, he's got a deeper red in two. I think he's more orangey, I think, in the first one, I would say.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Yeah. But Ron Perlman's great in this. And what an absolute bloody sport for submitting to however many hours of makeup. Oh, mate. Because, yeah. Is there more shirtless stuff in this one than the other one? In the first one? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:03 I think so, yeah. Yeah. But it's, yeah. Yeah. But it's very impressive and you've got to have this animatronic hand on. You've got a fact about that hand. I remember you telling me. Do I have a fact about it? Is the fact about that hand...
Starting point is 00:47:12 Which hand it was going to go on? Traditionally in the comic books, he's got the right hand of Doom because he needs to fire a gun with the left hand. I think because Ron Perlman is right-handed. Yes. They were like, well, do we want to make it the left hand of Doom and he can fire a gun with the right hand?
Starting point is 00:47:30 Yeah. And they were like, well, people would be mad. But then he just was like... Or he is left-handed. Look, I don't know. When you said fact. Look, it turned out fine, though. Everything turned out fine.
Starting point is 00:47:39 But he's really great. And having not seen the new one, you see a lot of Ron Perlman in it. And I don't, from the trailers of the new one, I don't know if I get that sense of, that's the bloody dude from Stranger Things or whatever. Okay, you think it's David Harbour doing a Ron Perlman impression? Not necessarily, but I mean, you can see more Ron Perlman in this. Even just in the features.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, right, okay. But he just kind of looks more like a gruff demon man in the new one. Again, having not seen it. So I don't want to get on that too much. But yeah, he feels comic book in size, but not too big. Do you know what I mean? He feels like a real person in the world. It's like they'll do a CGI hand bit where he'll crush a can
Starting point is 00:48:21 or he's tail CGI'd for doing a whatever. Did Hellboy 1 pioneer big dude punching a car and flipping it over his head? I was going to mention that. It's got a car flip or a truck flip. Every movie from like 2002 to 2014 had a car or a truck or a bus. Terminator Genesis did it, flipping over a guy or whatever because he stops it with a force field or he punches it or whatever yeah right uh-huh don't just don't all right it's not impressive i i was such a big fan
Starting point is 00:48:54 though back in the day oh yeah definitely and there's examples of it that have worked i think well there's a truck flip it's not really the same but in the dark night where they really flip a truck yeah and i'll take a real truck flip. I'll take that any day of the week. But yeah, there's- Terminator 3, a real truck flip. It's a real truck flip. Okay, I'll say this about Hellboy. He does-
Starting point is 00:49:13 Have you seen, side note, have you seen, it's on Twitter. I think there's a new app called TikTok. I'm not aware of what it is. Are there people miming crap songs? No, I think maybe, probably, but it's short videos. There's a video of Arnold Schwarzenegger On his I guess his ranch
Starting point is 00:49:28 Or his farm I've seen this And he's on a He's on an electric bike And he's chasing A Shetland pony Around a field And he's not
Starting point is 00:49:38 Just to be clear The Shetland pony Is clearly into it Yeah Like it's clearly His pet Shetland pony Or like whatever it is And it's like,
Starting point is 00:49:45 chase me, dad. It's hilarious. Of course he's got one of those. Of course he does, yeah. Oh, mate. That guy's up to so many things. He is, isn't he? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:53 He was in Melbourne recently for the Look at My Muscles Challenge. He was doing the Look at My Muscles Challenge. Yeah, so good on him. That's just because I'm right, because didn't Arnold Schwarzenegger pay for some of the stunts in... Didn't he pay with his own money?
Starting point is 00:50:04 He did, yeah. But there is a CGI truck flip in that movie, but it's not someone standing in front of it. But yeah, there's a bit where a crane goes through the front of the building. That's right, yes. And he did it for... They want to do it for real. Or he wanted to do it for real.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Hellboy quips too much when he should move. Move to run, move to shoot. He's like, what's this then? This hardly feels like... I don't like... Don't you know? Uh-huh. But I mean, you would do that given that you're a guy
Starting point is 00:50:27 who is seemingly completely indestructible. Okay, fair point. He does, at the end of the... I guess, I think that Hellboy, the Hellboy movies are more about spectacle than they are about danger, really. Okay, sure. Because at the end of the first Hellboy,
Starting point is 00:50:42 Rasputin is defeated and he dies. But then the dark, the old god creature that's within him and I guess is powering him. Yeah. Escapes and turns into a giant tentacle monster. And Hellboy just leaps into his mouth with like a dozen hand grenades. Right. And it just explodes and he's fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:01 That's a good point. So, you know. Yeah. It was more, it was this the hell hellboy one is more about the journey than the destination sure yeah yeah and you know he does have a good journey through these films like liz i feel right does because by the time the second movie rolls around she does have the handle on her powers she knows what she's doing yeah their relationship moves along enough where she's like don't be an idiot yeah don't just don't don't hell boy yeah
Starting point is 00:51:25 is that some is the is is the is the trans is the transition from her producing blue flame to orange flame yeah what is that is that thematically or is it more difficult to do oh like cgi was yeah right does she have the blue flame at the end of the first one yes she does okay and then that's what they bring up in the next one or is it orange in the second it's orange in the second one i don't know what that is. Maybe she can just do either because she's got the powers of. That's interesting. Maybe one was cheaper.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Maybe. Yeah. Yeah, well, she's obviously been lying low because she's got MS and she showed up recently for the Oscars, which was great. Yeah. Yeah. I'd like to see her do more stuff. Me too.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Yeah, obviously she's been lying low for a reason, but I think there's a way, if they had done a third one, of bringing her back and making it work. There's ways you can film around an actor that, or you make it part of the character. Yeah, right. You know what I mean? Look when Michael J. Fox works, they make it work.
Starting point is 00:52:15 That's true, yeah. So, yeah, I'd like to see her turn up in more things. Abe Sapien is a bloody gosh darn marvel of prosthetics and CGI blinking eyes and performance. I really liked the David Hyde Pierce voice in the first one, which he chose not to be credited for because Doug Jones was the one who got all the fish stuff stuck to him. Sometimes he'd wear it overnight
Starting point is 00:52:41 because it was easier than taking it off. That guy, the stuff that he has put himself through. Yeah, right. Incredible. But I love that character. And Guillermo del Toro clearly loved him as well. Yeah. I feel like, well, you were saying that Guillermo del Toro,
Starting point is 00:52:56 GDT, let's call him GDT. GDT, baby. Do you think he, when you say he walked away from the Hellboy franchise, did you say because he was just done with it i think he was just done i feel like maybe it was because he wanted to do the fish love story because hellboy 2 and i'd forgotten until we recently re-watched this has has the fish love story in it yes it's a fish man love story in it yeah and i feel like he wanted to do more with it and now the studio were like,
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Starting point is 00:54:20 So, who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca That's sunrisech moved on. You're probably right. And he won an Oscar. So he was right to do so. There is some wonky early... Isn't that interesting though? What's that? That had he made a Hellboy 3, Abe Sabian had sex with a human woman. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:54 That would never have won an Oscar. Absolutely not. Never in a billion years. No way. Because it was genre-y and based on a comic book. Yes. And there would have been too many shooty action sequences. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Even if it was the most amazing you know romance ever set to film it never would have won an Oscar because they would have
Starting point is 00:55:12 been like this is genre and stupid even though look and The Shape of Water is great I'm glad it won because it's
Starting point is 00:55:18 it's so weird and stuff like that doesn't really yeah win anything doesn't generally win but no I'm glad that
Starting point is 00:55:24 kind of went away do you think it was do you think it was a career... What do you want to call it? Do you think it was a lifetime achievement award? Yeah, maybe. Did Pan's Labyrinth win anything? I don't believe so. Or maybe it did win Best International Film or something.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Yeah, or Best Special Effects or Editing or something. It may very well. Because a lot of his previous work does flow over into this particularly the weird world building and animatronic stuff that what there's some wonky cgi in this we're talking hellboy too no the first hellboys that um there's a monster that's there's a moment where a thing like as a sand thing that kind of oh yes i can't remember the bit i've wrote it down i can't remember specifically there's a bit where he crushes the red bull can and it's clearly a fake hand and a fake and a fake hand and i've
Starting point is 00:56:09 also written here the love story is weird because it is he kind of follows the girl that he likes around and then eventually she's like all right that's true yeah i mean he obviously she obviously is supposed to really love him but it's a bit kind of it's a bit of a weird dynamic yeah it's kind of because she's kind of like just leave me alone because I burst into flames. And he's like, give me a kiss. Kiss me, baby. Yeah. And exactly.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Like, it seems the only commonality that they have is they're both fireproof. Yes. And he's like, come on, we're both fireproof, baby. Come on. Come on. Come on. Pan's Labyrinth won three Academy Awards. Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Which ones? Let's find out. Best Beeshell of Eegs? It won Best Cinematography, Best Art Direction, Best Makeup. Okay. And it was nominated for Best Original Score, but it did not win. But it won those ones. Yes, correct.
Starting point is 00:57:06 I've never seen it. Please don't email me. I've been planning to. I have seen it. Don't email me, Mason. Okay. Can I email you for other reasons? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Yeah, okay. As long as it's not related to that. Yeah, so there's a couple of animatronic stuff, other stuff that I really like. The monster that he fights that can be multiple monsters. Yes, uh-huh. There's bits where it's maybe not filmed super well like it's a bit flat and puppety uh-huh but i think the blend between it being a cgi thing that's kicked through a wall and being a real thing in the physical space is is good yeah i know i at no point was like well
Starting point is 00:57:38 this is yeah that's obviously like all eyes on one side of its head or whatever's going on there and i love that it doesn't look super convincing, but I love the chatting skeleton that he carries around on the noose. It's just like... Well, that's straight out of the comic books. Yes. Yeah, I really enjoyed that, even though it's clearly a puppet. It's not proportioned like a human.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Yeah, but he's... I know, but I love it. I'm 100% on board. Yeah. And that, again, that to me that I enjoy, I think I enjoy the first one more because it's got more of that, just that mishmash of weirdness.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Yeah. Like it's Elder Gods and it's like, okay, I've got a, you know, I've got a bone from a saint and I can use that to separately bring back a corpse or what have you. Like it's just, imagine all the weirdness of this of you know imagine all the the myths and legends you know what they're all true yeah i very much enjoy any kind of universe like that and to
Starting point is 00:58:36 me the golden army didn't and again i don't know i guess it is a similar mishmash but i think it felt very much like guillermo wanted to just do his own thing and they would only let him do it through the lens of a franchise character that was already proven. I feel like you could take Hellboy and the BPRD out of Hellboy 2. Okay. If it was just a regular person figuring out this universe, it would still mostly be fine.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Like a National Treasure situation. Like a National Treasure situation, exactly. Well, I think he's got skills more than whatever the character's name in National Treasure is called. Okay, good. Nicholas Cage. Nick Jumpalot. Nick Jumpalot.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Nicholas Jumpalot, yes. A lot of agents get killed in this in Rasputin's Tomb. I really enjoy Rasputin's Tomb. I love the swinging pendulum, taking out the bridges. I remember that in the trailer as well. That's something that stuck in my mind a lot of agents get mashed they really do he becomes friends with jeffrey tambor and they smoke cigars together like we've got some things in common don't we yeah we're both bald yeah there's there's very little there's very little uh concern for the the agent the other agents welfare yeah hellboy seems a little bit sad that one of them is killed in the first one.
Starting point is 00:59:46 The dude with the hair plugs. Yeah, exactly. But for the rest of it, he's just kind of like, the rest of that movie and the other movies, there's just a series of dudes in suits who get chewed to pieces by various monsters and we all just move on. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:59:58 To some degree, it's like, well, that's what they signed up for. But on the other hand, it's like, well, you knew these things existed. Yes. Send them in like a hazardous environment suit or something. Exactly, yeah. Don't send them in like a two-piece race suit. And you work with them. You see them every day.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Yeah, I know, right? Yeah. Just put them in a diving suit or something, you know? Do you think the new movie is going to do the break the horns? I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. If you know that they're tooth fairies, this is the second one. Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Get them out of there. Get them out of there. Just don't. Don't. Don't send them in. You've got a six shooter. Yeah. And there's a million of them.
Starting point is 01:00:36 There's a million of them. And also, how do you hit? Try and hit a bird with, try and hit a really fast, try and hit a finch with a handgun. Good luck. I'm sure people will message you and say well actually it's technically possible.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Sure it is. And then also the finch is trying to eat your face and there's a thousand of them. A finch is trying to get directly
Starting point is 01:00:57 into your mouth to eat your teeth and then the rest of your body and you have to shoot it with a handgun. Good luck. Do you think
Starting point is 01:01:04 in the new one there's going to be the break the horns? I'm a good guy. Yes. Because you see in the trailer he's got the... Yeah, absolutely there is. Yeah. I think maybe this is for maybe a younger audience who hasn't seen the previous two. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Where's the recording? I don't know. We'll just keep going. Okay, we'll just keep going. And if it doesn't work... It's just a new space and I'm concerned that maybe you haven't dotted the I's and crossed the T's. I'm keeping an eye on it. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 01:01:28 I'm keeping an eye on it. Okay. I think I found the right level with the air con as well. Yeah, yeah, great. Is it good for you? Yeah. Okay, great. Could be a little colder.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Oh, Jesus. Fine. Here we go. Yeah. I put it up. Thank you, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. Not a sponsor yet. It's just a car we've parked in the roof.
Starting point is 01:01:46 It's just a car we've parked. It just a car we've parked in the roof. It's just a car we've parked. It's a car we've parked in the garage with just the ignitions on. We're feeling very cool and lightheaded. Yeah, man. It's feeling great. I get it. Just breathing every once in a while. I'm feeling good.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Me too. Should we get right into two, though? Let's get into two. I think it's better, but you think it's not as good. I think you're wrong. But yeah. I think it strays too far you think it's not as good. I think you're wrong, but... Yeah. I think it strays too far. I don't think it opens as well.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Unless... And I'm just going to check really quickly, because we're going to get emails. Unless it's based directly on a Hellboy comic book that I haven't read. Like, maybe I missed a volume. It's entirely possible. Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Actually, I don't think it is. I think it might have been made up for the movie. It is weird that they have the 1955 John Hurt flashback because he's killed in the first one by the Sand Nazi who's got no eyelids. That's right. That's the bit. The Sand Nazi man, when you see his eyes and he's got no eyelids,
Starting point is 01:02:37 it looks like CGI eyeballs kind of googling around in his head. That's what I meant to say. But the opening of that movie is set in 1955. Yeah, with young Hellboy. Yeah, but it's... Kid Hellboy. Which I like. Boy Hellboy.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Boy Hellboy. Boy Boy. Yes. But John Hurt is now... Because we see young John Hurt in the first movie and he's like a 25-year-old man. Yeah, right. And then 10 years later, he's John Hurt.
Starting point is 01:03:06 He's John Hurt older than John john hurt from the first hell boy but with darker hair with darker hair yeah i mean i guess if you stand next to a demon for 10 years that's what it does that's probably true yeah but yeah i guess it's kind of nice to to um to get him back this one made 160 million on an 85 million dollar budget that's much better yeah i think you think that they'd do a three, yeah. But it's still not amazing, which again makes me think, for them to even consider it, it must have had a good home release situation. Yeah, for sure. You get that Blu-ray combo.
Starting point is 01:03:37 You get these two, and you get the one where Ryan Reynolds and Jeff Bridges fight. R.I.P. Dave. Yeah, that one. Yes, absolutely, you get those two. You get all those together. Okay, makingges fight. R.I.P. Yeah, that one. Yes, absolutely. You get those two. You get all those together. Okay, okay. Making of notes. Yep.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Guillermo del Toro and Mike Mignola, creative Hellboy, spent a few days adapting the Almost Colossus storyline from Hellboy, which has a character called Roger the Homunculus. Then they found it easier to create an original story based on folklore because del Toro was planning on making Pan's Labyrinth
Starting point is 01:04:05 and Mignola's comics were becoming increasingly based on mythology. So they sort of combined. Right, okay. I think it works. Look, I think it mostly works. You know what? I think maybe to me it was kind of jarring when I went in. I'm like, there's a lot of golden stuff and elves in this.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Clockwork men and pointed ears? I don't think so. Yeah, Mignola described the theme of the sequel. The focus is more on the folklore and fairytale aspect of Hellboys. It's not Nazis, machines, and mad scientists, but the old gods and characters who have been kind of shoved out of our world. Yeah. I get it.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Feels God of War-ish in that way, the new one. Have you played the new God of War? No. I know you've played Doom. Yeah. Maybe we'll talk about it later. We'll talk about it later. I really love the elf prince in this.
Starting point is 01:04:42 I love the performance. I love the fighting style i love the makeup it's luke goss and i'm like who is this guy yeah but he's the guy who's the he's the new statham in the death race sequels oh right that's pretty much okay but i feel like from this yeah this guy should be in more things he's so good in this like you really feel like he's fighting for his people and he's dangerous and he loves his sister, but he's mean and you know what I mean? Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:05:09 I think he's really great. I think you just relate though because you're also fighting for your people, podcasters. I love my sister. Yep, exactly. The dog. The dog, exactly. Because I don't really have a sister. That's right.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Yeah. But no, I think he's really good. And so is the, so he's an English actor. I wrote this down. I forgot to write this. Former drummer in the late 80s band Bros. Bros. Bros.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Bros. Bros, yes. Bros, yeah. Not Bros. Well, it's spelled Bros, right? You remember Bros. I don't. When will I...
Starting point is 01:05:39 Oh, that's them. When will I be famous? In 2008, Hellboy 2. That's when he'll be famous. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And also, yeah, so he's in the Death Race sequels and the Tekken movie. Be famous In 2008 Hellboy 2 That's when he'll be famous Yes Yeah And also So he's in the Death Race sequels
Starting point is 01:05:48 And the Tekken movie Which I did not know There was a Tekken I was aware of it Movie Yeah Liz is back
Starting point is 01:05:55 She's pregnant That's a big plot point Of this movie What's it like to be a dad We'll never know Because it ends It ends on a freeze frame I've forgotten
Starting point is 01:06:04 This ended on A cliffhanger of sorts. Yeah. That Liz is pregnant with two Hellboy twins. Yes. Yeah. That's probably from the comics, right? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Yeah. I don't know. I've got to read some Hellboy, man. Yeah. So I love the troll market stuff in this. There's more weird boogly creatures and he fights that giant monster with a metal hand on a chain. I know. And like smashes its hand.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Luke Goss. Luke Goss, man. Luke Goss. He's in Bros. He's in Bros. He's in Blade 2. Is he? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Which kind of spiky faced vampire is he in that? I don't know. Interesting. Probably a bald one because he himself is bald. Could be it, but he's not bald in this. Maybe he wears a wig in Blade 2. i don't know interesting probably a bald one because he himself is bald it could be it but he's not bald in this maybe he wears a wig and blade too we don't know yeah what are you up to lucas that's right is there going to be a bros reunion i think there has been recently good yeah i hope they try because you know uh maybe it's like a um maybe it's like a demi more situation oh okay demi more for 20 years and then she was demi more yeah maybe it's like a Demi Moore situation. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Where she was Demi Moore for 20 years and then she was Demi Moore. Maybe it's like, yeah, we're bros now. Deal with it. We've got a gritty rebranding. We're bros now. I would enjoy that very much. I remember seeing this the first time, the transition to Doug Jones' voice. Jug Jones. To Jug Jones. It's a little jarring. Jughead's voice to jug jones it's a little jarring
Starting point is 01:07:26 it's a little jarring but he's great he's still you kind of settle into it pretty quickly i found anyway and it makes sense that he would voice his things as he does that's true everything else yeah exactly yeah yeah do you like the offhanded comment that myers that's his name i've written it down here i was transferred to Antarctica? Yeah, he's gone. Yeah, it's good. He's bloody out of here. I don't know about this reveal to the world, the world doesn't like him storyline.
Starting point is 01:07:55 I'm not sure about that. Yeah, right? Does it make it less interesting that if everybody knows him and... And there's a moment where he's like protecting a baby and she's like, don't hurt my baby. He's like, I'm not, he's your baby. She's like, don't take my baby. And he's like, I'm literally giving you your baby back. I do also feel like he could have put that baby down much earlier.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Oh yeah, for sure. Because there's a scene where he fights the giant plant. Which I love. Don't like the squid, love the plant. The last plant, the last of his kind. Elemental or something? Yeah, the last plant elemental, I love. Don't like the squid, love the plant. The last plant, the last of his kind. Elemental or something? Yeah, the last plant elemental, I guess. And he fights him while holding a baby
Starting point is 01:08:33 and also hanging off the side of a building. And I'm like, yeah, you could definitely just put the baby on top of the building. Well within your reach. Definitely. You climbed up there with the baby. At one point, you fling the baby in the air. That's going to do lasting damage to a baby. Do not fling a baby. Never fling a baby. Never ever. there with the baby. At one point, you fling the baby in the air. Yes. That's going to do lasting damage to a baby.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Do not fling a baby. Never fling a baby. Yeah. Never ever. Even I know that. Even you, of all people. Someone who'll never touch a baby. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Because you know why? Because I'm afraid I'll fling it. I've been too easily influenced by- Holly Weird. Holly Weird. Yeah. That I'm like, well, look, I've got to put this thing in the microwave. I better fling the baby while I do it.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Then I'll just put the- Put this popcorn in. Put the popcorn in the microwave. I better fling the baby while I do it. Then I'll just put the popcorn in the microwave. I'll close it and then I'll catch the baby. Don't do it. It's dangerous. Just don't. It's long-landed. Just don't. But you know what I do like?
Starting point is 01:09:18 What's that? Johan Krauss. Oh, voiced by Seth MacFarlane. Seth MacFarlane. I had no idea. Yeah. So it's fully a guy in a suit with his head hidden I assume
Starting point is 01:09:28 Right, yes Because Because the top They've made it look like He doesn't have the top part of his head I like to think that it isn't that It's one of those wacky Inflatable
Starting point is 01:09:37 Waving inflatable arm men Like and they literally just pump it up Before every scene And they hope for the best Yeah They have it wave its arms And then just dub it over the top yeah but i thought he was a really interesting and fun addition yeah see that's i enjoyed that as well and that i think that is that's the that's going back to like mad scientists and nazis and what have you like he seems he's a he's a man who
Starting point is 01:09:59 experimented on himself several steps too far and became like an ectoplasm man yeah don't you don't just don't just don't i mean it's too late but i mean yeah it's you don't cry over spilt milk or ectoplasm no just don't do it don't do it yeah i like the things like uh when they go to the troll market and they use more kind of tech he's got the glasses so he can see the troll lady uh-huh yeah yeah uh there's other little things i can't even think of another example but there's bits and pieces in this movie they're like oh that's a fun little addition but you're right though it is more it's probably less magic here than the first one like less less less like this is a bone that resurrects the whatever sorcery yeah we're just we're in a magical realm
Starting point is 01:10:37 i do like the blade where you get the blade in you and then you can't it's going to go into your heart because don't touch it oh yes uh-huh But I feel like that elf king only beat him because he was drunk. Because it comes off the back of Hellboy and Fishman Magoo. Yes. Getting very. They get so sourced, don't they? Absolutely wasted. Claire's always loved that scene where they're sourced and they're singing.
Starting point is 01:10:58 She finds that really fun. But, and so he was half cut. Yeah. Because the next time they fight. And then fully cut the next time they fight he's much more sober and there we get another cliffhanger
Starting point is 01:11:11 where in that we go to the Moors I guess and we encounter that Pan's Labyrinth-esque demon figure who's like I can save you, I can save Hellboy but he's going to destroy the whole world. And she's like, fine.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Whatever. We'll figure, we'll find out what's going to happen with this in the sequel. Yeah. Never again. Never again. They'll probably continue it in a comic. Yes. That I'll begrudgingly read.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Yeah. Well, I mean, there are the Hellboy comics. No, I mean in this universe in particular. Oh, I see. Right. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:43 So, yeah that that demon angel thing with the big plate on its head or whatever that's that's a real guy in there it might even be doug jones i don't know that for a fact but yeah but i really enjoy they just put more makeup and foam over the top of his existing they're like well we could take the apesapien makeup off but it's gonna take hours he's, just put another layer on me. I don't care. I don't care anymore. Just bury me in this shit.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Yeah. But I think the finale in this is better than the first one. I love the room of cogs slash the golden army and the gas man gets in one. You know what I mean? I felt it was a bit laboured, but I guess the point of that scene is that you can't defeat them ultimately.
Starting point is 01:12:24 You could do it forever and a day. That's right. But they're going to come back. And then that where he's jumping in between the cogs and he's fighting Luke Goss. Yes. We know now from the band bros. The band bros.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Band bros. Yes. They're band bros. Band bros. But it is kind of, it's an uplifting, fun, what's going to happen next ending that we will probably never see. Correct. The sequel to, which is a shame.
Starting point is 01:12:51 But again, what, just, you know where we'll find it, James? In our imaginations. I don't want to look there. That's right. Don't make me. You try and it's just like a list of bills you have to pay. Council rates. Anyway, all in all, Hellboy 1 and 2.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Good films. Agreed. Go in expecting a little bit Men in Black-ish. Yeah. I think coming into this, if you hadn't seen them earlier, you might be like, this is a little hokey and a little dated. But I think overall they're quite good. I do wonder if objectively yeah with
Starting point is 01:13:26 this new one coming out based strictly off a hellboy story with a lot of the characters brought straight from the comics in there for the way they normally are i wonder how it would compare like this new reboot to say the first one well we'll never know will we well i just think no because i think like in seeing the new one i feel like there's always going to be an element of me like well it's i kind of like ron perlman yeah which is kind of a shame for this new one but uh i'm hoping it's great i really would love it to be great i think i will come around i recently re-watched ant-man yes fun fun fun film fun ant-man fun i think i'm gonna go into this i i think i know myself well enough at this point that i'm gonna be like,
Starting point is 01:14:07 well, it was a little bit different with Ron Perlman. I don't know if I... I mean, it would have been great if we got Ron Perlman back. And I think the second one I'll be like, Ron who? Yeah, that's right. Yeah. In your face, Ron Perlman. You did a good job, but we don't care anymore. We don't care anymore.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Also, we should point out he did reprise the role in a Make-A-Wish video. Well, not just a video. He did it for the kid as well. He wanted to meet Hellboy, so him and the kid got the full Hellboy. That was the last time he was in a make a wish uh video or not just a video he did it for the kid as well he wanted to meet hell boy so him and the kid oh got the full hell boy that was the last time he was in the makeup get up oh they also made up the kid yeah made of the kid yeah i don't think to the same extent right but uh it's really fun we're gonna close up all your airways for 10 hours here we go so yeah could you could you put on that makeup? For, like, months on end. Yes.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Yeah, probably. I mean, I'd be bad at the role. So, I mean, if I was a good actor, which I'm not, you might see me doing a bit of bloody voice acting this week, though. Oh, because you're the new voice of Hellboy. I am. Wow. Hello, everybody.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Look out. This gun's got some bullets. Yep. Is that a line from the movie? That's what he says My gun's got some bullets I like these guns Yeah He's got the big gun
Starting point is 01:15:10 What's it called? The one that The baby He's got the big baby Big baby And he's got the hand The big hand gun Yeah
Starting point is 01:15:16 I think I think I've had nightmares about Not putting on any kind of Hollywood style makeup Yeah But I think getting moulded for the makeup Oh yeah Because I think I've had nightmares about not putting on any kind of Hollywood style makeup, but I think getting molded for the makeup. Oh yeah. Because I think these days, I think there was a, there was a, they had a breakthrough at one point, like a few years ago where they're like, yeah, we can just do it in segments
Starting point is 01:15:33 and it's fine. But I believe up until a few years ago, it was just, they put two straws up your nose and then they just cast your entire hair and you had no like eyes covered, mouth covered, whatever. And it's like. They went for lunch. Yeah. And you had no like eyes covered, mouth covered, whatever. And it's like. They went for lunch. Yeah, they went for. Because I have like.
Starting point is 01:15:50 I get some clogged. I get a clogged schnoz from time to time. Yeah, probably. I die in there. You die. Yeah. I don't be too polite to just tear it off. I'd be like, oh, this is setting and I'm going to die. But it's expensive.
Starting point is 01:16:00 I don't want to make a scene. The casting people are going to get mad at me. So they can't put a mouth hole going to get mad at me, so. They can't put a mouth hole and kind of get a rough idea of how to do it in the final thing. I don't know. Because the mold is normally for a bust, which they then build off. Yeah, right. That's the general idea.
Starting point is 01:16:22 Well, anyway, it's never going to happen, so don't have to worry. We'll see. Unless we want to do it for video content. I wouldn't do it for that. I wouldn't for video content. I wouldn't do it for that. I wouldn't do it either. I wouldn't do it for all the tea in China. Oh, no, I would. I'd be so rich. I'd have all their tea.
Starting point is 01:16:30 You're going to sell it. I'd keep it. I'd just keep it. Wow. Yeah. Okay, here we go. You know what it's time for? Is it time for more Luke Goss facts?
Starting point is 01:16:38 Have you got some? He was born in Lewisham, London, the son of Carol and Alan Goss. Okay. That's hot Goss. It is hot Goss. Since 1994, he's been married to backing singer Shirley Lewis. Okay. He's worked with Elton John, George Michael, Luther Vandross, and many others.
Starting point is 01:16:53 They have a stepdaughter. They've moved permanently to Los Angeles, but still maintain a residence in London. Well, you'd have to, wouldn't you? Yes. For Hollywood. And for bros reunions. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Well, he's been in a lot of movies. Yeah, he's been around. Yeah. Oh. Oh. I love the effect where the people die from that universe and they turn into like an ivory person. That was great, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Great stuff. That's a great effect. Because you know they really made ivory people to do it. Like they would have made the actual. Yeah, okay, sure. It's just a good kind of weird folklore kind of look yeah
Starting point is 01:17:26 any more Luke Goss Goss looks like it was on an episode of Fringe it's a good show everyone loves that show never seen it okay that's good that's about it
Starting point is 01:17:37 great yeah that's the tooth that is the tooth tooth fairies yes good you know what it's time for what's it time for
Starting point is 01:17:42 what we're reading oh what we're gonna read I'm doing a thing What are we reading today? Yes You bought Doom, Mason I bought Doom Yeah
Starting point is 01:17:56 People didn't think I had the guts I didn't think you'd do it To buy Doom But I did, I bought Doom The only thing you like more than buying Doom Is not having people hassle you for not buying Doom That's correct, yes. Did you get people asking you before you bought it?
Starting point is 01:18:08 A lot of people tweeted. They said, buy Doom. Get Doom. You've got to get Doom. So I got Doom. You got it pretty early in the week as well. I did. I wanted to really get the Doom experience.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Now, we didn't stipulate that you needed to play Doom. But I did play Doom. You did play Doom. I did play Doom. Update. It's good. I like it a lot. you did play i did play doom update it's good i like it a lot it's um what i like about it actually is that initially like the the the place they sort of shove you into a certain play style
Starting point is 01:18:32 which is not the way i would play a kind of this kind of shooter game which is i hang back yeah i'll look around corners and i'll snipe like i'll find a position and a lot of new games are that as well right it's a lot of like duck behind this wall yeah get your health back i'll find some cover i'll wait exactly there's no there's no health regen it's like an old school yeah it's it's like old doom it's like but if you just do that the monsters will find you and destroy you yeah so like it really encourages and i i was initially hesitant but then i'm like no this is good like you gotta move you've got to just get in there yeah and just start ripping heads off because you get health and benefits health benefits yeah you get health benefits from killing so the more you kill they cancel your insurance if you don't if you don't
Starting point is 01:19:11 get in there and kill yeah oh man it's good it's there's uh all the classic stuff's back the shoddy the chainsaw you're the same guy launcher presumably. No, I think you are, because... Yeah, you are. I got in... I very much got into the Doom lore. Oh, yeah? Like, the history of Doom. Mm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:31 So, you've been... So, you were reading a lot of the manuscripts. So, you've been trapped in hell for a long time, yeah? Yes. Yeah. People don't like you there or whatever. So, you're not the Doom guy from Doom 3, which is a different game. Different Doom, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'd like to do some Doom stuff for the new doom game. Maybe we won't talk about it because we're not a video game. We can still talk about it. We can probably touch on it, but I'd like to do either the doom movie, either of the doom movies coming out or the one that's out in the new one.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Yeah. Doom. Yeah. To video. No, but it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 01:20:00 I'm enjoying it. Yeah. Will I finish it? Who knows? I haven't finished it, but it's not for lack of loving the game Doom yeah
Starting point is 01:20:06 do I enjoy the Relentless Metal soundtrack? not so much but it's fine I find I've found to be fair the play loop got a bit samey for me
Starting point is 01:20:15 yeah okay sure sure and I kind of dropped off a bit but I'll probably finish it at some point I think I'll finish it just to get I want to see like
Starting point is 01:20:24 your Cyberdemons and your spider master yeah i enjoyed that they like the updates yeah i like the update i enjoyed that they uh they they remade all the a lot of the old old school monsters from the original like just the imps yeah they've made them like really even even just them because they're like the second monster you fight but they're like they can run and find cover yeah and like snipe you from a distance yeah like get up on a thing yeah exactly yeah yeah they'll run they'll retreat to a to a vantage point and attack you and all that sort of stuff chainsaw's good as well agreed yeah anyway that's my review of a game from three years ago got doom it's good look forward to his review of monkey island 2 next week yeah it's it's also good
Starting point is 01:21:04 i haven't played it recently but it's still probably good do I have any more thoughts about Doom? probably not it's pretty sick just Doom if you can just Doom yeah not don't
Starting point is 01:21:12 I also watch speaking of things from 2016 I also watch Colossal oh that guy I keep seeing that on Netflix it's the Anne Hathaway Jason Sudeikis movie
Starting point is 01:21:21 about a like a like a New York party girl who moves back to her hometown and then discovers that she has some sort of connection to like a monster, a gigantic monster that's destroying soul. And it's a metaphor.
Starting point is 01:21:32 I think it's a metaphor. Have you seen it? You watched the whole thing, sorry. I mean, I know you saw it, sorry. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:37 You finished it. I think it's, I think it's meant to be a metaphor about domestic abuse. Okay. But I'm not sure. I think maybe some wires got crossed in the production of that movie. Cause it's not, it's not great. No, I'm not sure I think maybe some wires got crossed in the production of that movie because it's not
Starting point is 01:21:46 it's not great? no I liked it I think okay anyway that's my review of a movie from three years ago excellent I've got a more recent
Starting point is 01:21:54 thing that I could discuss we should do more comics because I read multiple comics every week and I feel like I'd talk about them I read a comic as well
Starting point is 01:22:02 but we can talk about it in a minute is it Criminal? it's not Criminal Criminal is a Brian Michael Bendis comic I'm aware of we can talk about it in a minute. Is it Criminal? It's not Criminal. Criminal is a Brian Michael Bendis comic. I'm aware of it. You do mean it's an Ed Brubaker comic?
Starting point is 01:22:11 Yep. What are you thinking of? Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. I'm 100% right. It says I'm right here. It doesn't say who it is. It just says James is right. No, it doesn't. No, I don't think that's true.
Starting point is 01:22:24 No, I don't think it's true at all. It ed brubra are you reading uh all my heroes my heroes have always been junkies is that what you've been reading no i haven't read that but criminal is basically i i believe it's more of an anthology thing though some issues two and three tied tied together it's just some criminal activities but two and three in particular about a an old an old comic book artist who's grumpy and mean but he's done some wonderful stuff in the past but he's he's jaded and he has to he's gone on this kind of adventure to recover some particular pages and you find out about his past and the comic book industry and there's a lot of nods to like real world stuff and it's great and if you love brian
Starting point is 01:22:58 michael bennis's work you might just love ed brubaker's Criminal. Yeah, there's three issues at the moment. Good save. And they're long as well. That's like, you very much, that strikes me as like somebody in like a high school exam who's read the wrong thing. Like the thing about, what's interesting about Macbeth is how similar it is to Hamlet.
Starting point is 01:23:17 And here's the themes of Hamlet. Yeah, that's it. No, Ed Brubaker, people would know him from the Captain America, sort of Death of Captain America storyline. Bucky's it. No, Ed Brubaker, people would know him from the Captain America, sort of Death of Captain America storyline. Bucky's job? Yeah. He did a series for Image called Sleeper,
Starting point is 01:23:32 which came before Criminal, which is kind of like it was about a supervillain, like a superpowered man who goes into like the criminal underworld like the super villain underworld like undercover to to undermine it and then his handler disappears and everybody thinks he's a villain for real and kind of like he has to navigate that underworld and then i think criminal which came afterwards they were just brew baker was just like i don't want to do superhero stuff anymore i just want to do like the crime stuff gripped him. And I think he's like, well, I'm just going to do crime now.
Starting point is 01:24:08 But there's one that came out quite recently called, or my heroes have always been junkies, which is the most recent criminal thing, which I'm going to get into, which looks pretty good. But I read a comic book, which I believe was recommended by Levin's and Siobhan on Serious Issues Podcast. It's called The Terrible Elizabeth Dunn versus The Devils in Suits. And it's based on the premises, but it's a one-shot.
Starting point is 01:24:33 And I think there might be some more coming later. The premise is basically... You should buy this right now. You should buy it right now. So I don't know if it's digital. I bought it for reals. I don't do that. No, I do actually okay anyway so basically the premise is that uh 20 years ago there was a man
Starting point is 01:24:51 and he met the devil and he said okay i want to be rich and successful the terrible uh the terrible elizabeth dunn d-u-m-n okay uh and he uh he he meets the devil and he's like i want to be you know rich and successful and the devil's like sure like i want to be you know rich and successful and the devil's like sure thing but i'll give you you you have to give me the soul of your firstborn son oh and then then 20 years later he comes to collect and the dad's like you can't have my son how about you take my daughter instead right so great she's been preparing because she's she's like the black sheep of the family and the dad sells it to the devil in the sense of he's like,
Starting point is 01:25:27 they say she can't be tamed. She's so terrible. She's the black sheep of the family and he's like, I'm intriguing, but of course she's untameable and she doesn't want to borrow this and she's been preparing for this moment. She knew it was coming.
Starting point is 01:25:43 She knew it was coming. She's sort of been preparing and she meets some other characters and it's it's a bloody good good old read it doesn't look like i can get it digital so i am gonna buy it i should have just brought it over well mason it's too late for that that is too late if wishes were kisses we'd all be kissing each other you know what i mean i get it what yep yep exactly wow this this new this this new setup where we're staring directly into each other's eyes i think it's gonna be good for the long term i think it is gonna be good for the long term i think you've yeah we've drifted apart because i've been on the couch and you've been at
Starting point is 01:26:16 the desk that's right yeah yeah it's like couples who sleep in different exactly yeah i'll show up next week and you will have cut out like a foot from the middle of the desk and it'll be shoved slightly closer alright what are we should we do some letters do some letters if anybody has some
Starting point is 01:26:31 comic book recommendations for us I would like to hear oh yeah man so speaking of letters weeklyplanetpot.gmail.com please do let us know some
Starting point is 01:26:37 recommendations for comic books cause or you know serious issues of course covers all the great all the good stuff yeah
Starting point is 01:26:44 but if you've got some kind of left field recommendations old you doesn't matter or even like if you're like You know, serious issues, of course, covers all the greats, all the good stuff. But if you've got some kind of left field recommendations. Old you, doesn't matter. Or even like, if you're like, Justice League's good now, we'll hear about it. I'm not, nah. You're not going back? I'm not. Never go back to Justice League? Not at this point.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Letters? Yes. Letters. The classic one was letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a day my way. I know they're here right now, we love you. Some letters, they're only a day away. They're here right now, we're going to do letters. Quick side note. Yeah, Claire's mum.
Starting point is 01:27:12 The mother-in-law's here. The bloody mother-in-law's here with a friend. We're so out of the way, Mason. I know, right? It's the best. They could be plotting to divorce you. No doubt. Probably separating the beds as we speak.
Starting point is 01:27:24 That's right. But you wouldn't know because we're here. We're here and we're luxuriating. Oh, this is what a man cave is all about. We should put some stuff in here. No. No, never. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:38 By the way, it's still a regular room. If you want to reach the show, as you said, as Mason said, weeklyplanetpod.gmail.com or hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter a lot of people have requested this have you guys
Starting point is 01:27:51 watched any of Love, Death and Robots if so what are your guys opinions if not you should I haven't watched
Starting point is 01:27:56 any of it yet I've watched all of it yes some good some not as good okay define good though what's good to you
Starting point is 01:28:03 do you mean subjectively good? Or are you just like, this is poor animation? No, none of the animation is poor. A lot of it is different styles. There is one live action one with Topher Grace and Mary Elizabeth Winstead in it. Okay, cool. Which is fun.
Starting point is 01:28:16 There's a lot of like, I feel there's a lot of like, this is for adults. So boobs, you know, I feel like it's a bit kind of like you can. So they're the good ones. They're the good ones they're the good ones obviously yeah i'm not i'm not inherently against that but i feel like what is what do you what do you feel like it's a bit um i mean there's plenty of dongs too you want to see some yes absolutely yeah but sure but i just feel like it's like well but nudity and sex because it's like for the for the yeah we can you know that kind of thing. But no, I mean, like any anthology series, there's some I enjoy more than others.
Starting point is 01:28:47 There's one in particular called Something Blue. I can't remember. Anyway, it's about an artist who developed this obsession with this particular shade of blue and putting it in his work on a larger and larger scale. And then you find out the reason for it at the end. That one I really, really liked. Is it a metaphor? Is he blue? Is he sad? No, it's not. There find out the reason for it at the end that one I really really liked is it a metaphor
Starting point is 01:29:05 is he blue is he sad no it's not there's a literal explanation for it which yeah and again
Starting point is 01:29:11 if you don't like one and I don't think does he look out his window one day and it's just the wall the building next door is painted that colour and he's like
Starting point is 01:29:18 oh yeah that sounds right yeah but no so it's it's a lot of different stories. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:25 And some are better than others, and some are spooky, and some are fun. Do you feel, is it animatrix-y? Yes. Okay. Definitely. Yeah. Good comparison. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:34 And some, you know, some of this and some of that. So it's not all the one animation house? No. Oh, I don't, it doesn't appear to be. I think it's David Fincher and Tim Miller. You know, Tim Miller. Deadpool Tim Miller. Deadpool Tim Miller. Deadpool Tim Miller, who's behind a lot of this.
Starting point is 01:29:47 But yeah, here we go. What are you being bloody, no. What are you doing for letters? What do I have for letters? Are you going to watch it? Just quickly. Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Okay, cool. This is from Mark Reed. Hello gents. That's us. We're gents. More like Mason Reed. I'm reading it. That's correct, yes.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Are there any movies that you're not a fan of spelled differently probably R-E-I-D you nailed it it's like you've read this email already are there any movies
Starting point is 01:30:11 that you're not a fan of but you think the music main theme is great I personally don't like Lord of the Rings however I enjoy that main theme fair
Starting point is 01:30:18 yes okay Sunshine has an amazing theme because some people don't love them but you love Sunshine I know I do we both think it's the best movie of all time.
Starting point is 01:30:26 Yeah, right. But that theme has been used in a lot of trailers and montages on YouTube of probably the movie Passengers. Yeah, right. Absolutely, yeah, yeah. Oh, I see, right. That's interesting. I don't care for Iron Man 3, but the Iron Man theme,
Starting point is 01:30:40 the Iron Man 3 theme, so jazzy. I love it. So jazzy. Bum, bum, P Diddy Godzilla song that whole album's a real banger yeah I mean I guess uh Tron I don't really Tron Legacy you love Tron Legacy I don't hate it but that soundtrack is killer yeah that's the best album Daft Punk's ever done really my opinion okay yeah I'm just putting in best movie soundtracks and seeing if we've got any that don't but that soundtrack is killer. Yeah. That's the best album Daft Punk's ever done. Really? In my opinion. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:06 I'm just putting in best movie soundtracks and seeing if we've got any that don't necessarily line up with the Garden State. Here's one that's almost certainly dated but at the time
Starting point is 01:31:15 the Spawn soundtrack. Oh, certainly, yeah. Which was something that I don't think has ever happened again which is they, it was just, they got original collaborations
Starting point is 01:31:24 from like metal dudes and electronic dudes and teamed them all up. Yeah, right. Yeah. Okay. Do you want me to look up what's on that bloody thing? Yes.
Starting point is 01:31:35 What's on it? Yes. I've immediately forgotten what you said. What was the name of the album? Spawn. Spawn. That's the one. I couldn't remember the name.
Starting point is 01:31:41 Spawn soundtrack. That's it. We got. Filter and the crystal method is on there, obviously. Of course it is. I think there might be a Silverchair. Really? There might be a Silverchair collab on there.
Starting point is 01:31:49 Okay. Yeah, so, yep. Trip Like I Do, which is the filter crystal method. Yeah, that's right. Hard Road Out of Hell by Sneaker Pimps and Marilyn Manson. Oh, so 90s. Yeah. Satan by Kirk Hammett and Orbital.
Starting point is 01:32:02 Kick Out the PA. Kirk Hammett from Metallica. I assume so. No, it is. Kick Out the PA Kirk Hammett from Metallica I assume so No it is Kick Out the PA Which is Korn and Dust Brothers Tiny Rubber Band Moby and Butthole Surfers
Starting point is 01:32:12 This is the most 90s thing I've ever seen Oh my god From Who the Bell Tolls Metallica and DJ Spooky I know that one Torn Apart Stabbing Westwood and Josh Wink Yeah I know that one
Starting point is 01:32:21 How many of these have held up Probably none of them Skin Up Pin Up By 808 State and Manson. Oh, I remember Manson. They were from like Bristol or something. Yes. One Man Army, The Prodigy, who recently leads singer past and Tom Morello. Spawn, the Spawn song just called Spawn is Silverchair and Vitro.
Starting point is 01:32:43 Yeah, yeah. T4, Strain, Henry Rollins and Goldie. Familiar, Incubus and DJ Greyboy. Yeah. Do you care about this? There's three more. Yeah, yeah. No Remorse.
Starting point is 01:32:53 I love DJ Greyboy. No Remorse, Brackets, I Wanna Die, Slayer and the Tari Teenage Riot. These are all combinations of bands, yeah. A Plane Scrapped, it's Ballet Honor. And then it runs. That being said, like, I don't know how many of them were collaborations in full. Yeah, right. Trip Like I Do is like, there's like a version that is just, I think, the Crystal Method version.
Starting point is 01:33:18 And it's pretty much the same. Right. Okay. Yeah. You know, I think maybe it was a case of they got the band in to do their thing and then they just added some meeps and moops over the top. Yes. Maybe I'm wrong, though.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it was an entirely collaborative process. Maybe they all got to... Maybe every band got together and they were like, okay... Pick a number. No, they lined up all the rock bands and they lined up all the electronic hip-hop guys on different sides and they all got to pick and so somebody in somebody there got last pick
Starting point is 01:33:49 like oh i got goldie i was gonna actually say goldie but i couldn't remember if anything goldie i don't know much about goldie goldie any good fine one of the best i hear yeah uh a plane scrapped its belly on a sooty yellow moon by Sol Koffing and Ronnie Size. Oh, Ronnie Size. I don't know that. And this is not a dream by Morphine and Apollo 440. Oh, Apollo 440.
Starting point is 01:34:15 So that's definitively the answer to the question. How about this? In future, we scrapped... Look, new venue for the recording of the podcast gotcha every week after this we scrap the letters segment and we just read out
Starting point is 01:34:29 we just read out like a music compilation from the 90s we just go oh my god you didn't believe it you didn't believe it hey jealousy
Starting point is 01:34:37 oh my god gin blossom oh gin blossoms there they are yeah I'm just looking through Batman Forever has got a do you like that soundtrack it has got some good stuff in there, man.
Starting point is 01:34:47 I bet it does. It's got Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me. It does, that's true. By U2. Yes. And. Doesn't it have a Smashing Pumpkins song? It's got the one that goes.
Starting point is 01:34:58 And it's got Kiss From A Rose, of course. Of course it does, yeah. Which everybody knows. Nation of Eagles is written in and this entire nation of eagles has said hashtag weekly planet pod after cap marvel had great success dh and do you think disney will use dh extensively in other properties also such as indiana jones do you think they dh harrison ford to do another movie or two of indie v nazis i think they'd like to yeah but again i again, I think, speaking of Captain Marvel, again, and I think we mentioned this a couple
Starting point is 01:35:29 of weeks ago. Well, last week. A couple of weeks. When we did it. When we did it. It's not important. Why am I banging on about it? Why am I dragging this out?
Starting point is 01:35:37 Let's stop. But the look was great, but the movement was not so great. You can tell that he's pushing 70 or whatever age he is. Like you could put, yeah, you could, I think you could very easily make, you know, Raiders era Harrison Ford. There's so much footage. There's so much footage and you could,
Starting point is 01:35:55 I think you'd make it look good, but can you make the action look good? Yeah, that's a fair point. Unless, I mean, you could also just, you could just get a young stuntman and paste harrison well can you can you paste can you paste uh i guess i mean i'm sure you can put someone else's head on face yeah definitely they did it for christopher lee in like 2005 for yeah yeah i guess it might be a function of you go okay you get the stuntman to do the stunt then you get harrison ford to like lie on a green screen log
Starting point is 01:36:24 or whatever and make reaction faces old harrison ford to like lie on a green screen log or whatever and make reaction faces old harrison ford and then you euthyfy that yes but like that that is so many stages of disconnection yeah from what is happening in the action sequence that maybe it's going to look weird well that being said a lot of the action sequences in the first india and the three indiana jones or the four they're not harrison for Like, he did a lot of it, but there's... Vic Armstrong, his name is Harrison Ford's stunt double. Most of that amazing stuff is him. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:36:52 Especially Temple of Doom, because he injured his back. Yeah. But, like, the stuff from leaping from the horse onto the tank, like, that's Vic Armstrong. That's Vic Armstrong, right. There's a whole... So I just think just get a reasonably convincing stunt man. Yeah, and I guess a lot of it's hidden in editing.
Starting point is 01:37:06 Yeah. That's the thing. These days, people don't want... I think people don't want stuff hidden in editing, and they can kind of see through that. If you see somebody jumping from a horse to a tank, and you can just see the back of their head, you're like, well, that's obviously not me.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Come on, mate. Come on. We want to see very old Harrison Ford, Grumpy Gramps Harrison Ford, leaping from that horse to that tank. Agreed. Yeah. I think we'll probably get more of it.
Starting point is 01:37:31 I don't know. I think they maybe should just recast if they're going to keep doing more. They're not going to, though, because, I mean, how well did that work last time? Yeah, but he's going to die anyway. I don't mean that in a bad way. You mean that in a good way? You mean that in a good way? I mean that in a good way.
Starting point is 01:37:46 Thank God, finally. No, I mean as in you're going to continue the franchise probably anyway. Yeah, right. And he's quite old. Yes. So maybe it's just time to switch it out. Yeah, for sure. Anyway, we'll find out after this very average Indiana Jones movie we're going to get in two years or whatever.
Starting point is 01:38:01 Yeah. Yeah. I think we're probably going to get some DH stuff in it. We've talked about it before. I think you could do 70% modern day, 30%. Yeah, for sure. Absolutely, yeah. Well, we've mentioned before,
Starting point is 01:38:11 but I would like to see 30% Nazi stuff. Yes. That sounds bad. That's also how we're going to outfit the studio. And 70% modern day with him hunting down Nazis. Because the Nazis went on the run. There's a bunch of them escaped. Yeah, right. studio and 70% modern day with him hunting down Nazis when, because the Nazis went on the run, there's a bunch of them escaped. Yeah. Right. And there, there were,
Starting point is 01:38:33 people are still out there finding these 95 year old men. That, that, that means, but he can't like, he's not a Nazi hunter. That wouldn't mean him pivoting to, is he just after an artifact? I think it's just a thing that he missed at the time. And now he has to go and fix that particular thing. He's got a thing that he missed at the time and now he has to go and fix that particular thing he's got a wrong that needs to be written rewritten right yeah i get it i get read yeah it's good it's got to be readed yeah yeah okay yeah sick sick but you know an overall overall trend though i mean it would only work for like beloved franchise stuff i feel like there's no there's no point just taking an old actor and de-aging them for no reason yes i agree you know and i mean you could you could get an old
Starting point is 01:39:09 actor and go be like i'm back in the past remember when this happened it would just just don't show that yeah that's the cheaper option isn't it don't do it yeah just say he did it i'll just say he did it or just get a younger actor yeah be the young version of them we don't have a phoenix the good dh you can bring back reva phoenix to be young indiana jones. River Phoenix. The DH, you can bring back River Phoenix to be young Indiana Jones. Exactly, that's right. Get Sean William Flannery, to whatever his name is, to do the body.
Starting point is 01:39:30 The guy who played him in the show. Sean Patrick Flannery? Whatever, Mason. I thought, okay. You're like Stifler. Did Stifler do it? Get him. He's alright, Sean William Scott.
Starting point is 01:39:40 Has he done recently? I don't know. But remember that one movie with The Rock? We talk about it all the time. All the time. Yeah, I mean, there's no reason, unless it's an iconic character that we've already seen young decades ago, there's no point.
Starting point is 01:39:52 Agreed. So why waste the time and the money? Agreed. Unless it's just to see if we can. That's right. Yeah. Okay, that's the show. Who's the worst?
Starting point is 01:39:59 Who's a character you would definitely not want to see de-aged? Definitely not? Or definitely do want to see de-aged, I wonder. I was to see de-aged i wonder i was just thinking young anthony hopkins just really de-ageify him they actually did that for um red dragon there's a little bit of de-aging in that just a little bit yeah uh let me think do you want to see bruce willis young diehard yes young diehard but but like really a really full what i full a really full head of hair just like just like they de-age him
Starting point is 01:40:28 and he's like don't give me a widow's peak give me like a I want the whole thing I want the whole thing just a flowing mullet he would too yeah
Starting point is 01:40:35 give me the whole thing give me the works exactly bring the widow's peak back Bruce Willis I agree well he doesn't have it though no that's true yeah
Starting point is 01:40:42 so maybe you de-age him to 1997. Yeah, right. Exactly. To his, you know, to the fifth element era of hair. Did we talk about that? That apparently he only does one day of shooting on any given movie now? Any movie?
Starting point is 01:40:54 Yeah. Even if he's the lead? I don't know. But that's what I saw that on a vlog at some point. And I think that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, it does. Like if you don't, if you see his character on screen and you don't see his face it's a double yeah that explains gi joe yeah it explains most of his moves i think maybe it's if he's not the lead if he's like if he's not top billing his
Starting point is 01:41:14 writer says i'll do one day and that's it okay fair enough so you know okay good on him yeah good he's just loving just love the work just don't Just don't, Bruce Willis. Just don't, Bruce Willis. Just retire. What do you need to keep doing? Does he have... Is he paying a huge divorce settlement still or something? I can't imagine he would. To Demi Moore? Well, these kids are grown up, so...
Starting point is 01:41:35 To Bros Moore? I can't imagine so. No, you wouldn't think so. Because isn't it depending on it... Because it's after your kids grow up, isn't it? A lot of the time? I don't know. I don't it depending on it, because it's after your kids grow up, isn't it? A lot of the time? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:41:46 Apparently it depends. Apparently in Canada, the divorce settlement is you have to, the alimony payment is the amount of money you earned at the most successful year of your career. Holy hell, that is. Which makes sense if you're like an accountant or something. Because it's like, well, you went from, you know, $70,000 a year to $75,000 a year or whatever. So that's, you know,
Starting point is 01:42:08 that's, but if you did a song on the spawn soundtrack, exactly, you're going to peak right there. But that's what, that's apparently what, exactly. That's apparently what happened to Brendan Fraser.
Starting point is 01:42:16 Cause like he, he, you know, at one year he made, you know, tens of millions of dollars cause he's in the mummy movies and whatever. And then, you know,
Starting point is 01:42:23 his star dropped right off, but his divorce settlement's like like we have to keep paying as if you made 10 million dollars they should reassess that law i think they should happen to dave foley as well he's also canadian i think dave which one's here again the news radio guy yeah news radio the kids in the hall oh he would have made a lot of money in that era yeah exactly yeah so that's yeah good thing he did sky high yeah this may or may not be true I've read I've heard this in interviews but I don't know if that's
Starting point is 01:42:47 with Brendan Fraser crying maybe it happened to Jim Carrey is he Canadian yes okay right did he ever get married though Jenny McCarthy
Starting point is 01:42:54 Jenny McCarthy I don't know if they were married okay let me just check if Jim Carrey I'm gonna check Canadian divorce laws alright let's do some googling he's 57
Starting point is 01:43:01 yeah that makes sense he's been married twice sorry oh former comedy store waitress Melissa Womer. And also Dumb and Dumber co-star Lauren Holley. Yes. I wouldn't say Dumb and Dumber would be peak Jim Carrey, though. No.
Starting point is 01:43:17 Also, he's probably an American citizen now. Maybe it's different for him. Yeah, maybe it's different for him. Also, I don't know what I'm talking about. So there you go. Mason, you know exactly what you're talking about. I know exactly what I'm talking about. I'm a Canadian divorce lawyer. That's right. That's my, yeah. Also, I don't know what I'm talking about, so there you go. Mason, you know exactly what you're talking about. I know exactly what I'm talking about. I'm a Canadian divorce lawyer.
Starting point is 01:43:26 That's right. That's my two qualifications, podcaster, Canadian divorce lawyer. And this is also why you're the best at wrapping up the show. Oh, yeah, that's right. Because you always know. I always know all the things. Okay. Article 1 of Canadian divorce lawyering.
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