The Weekly Planet - 280 Star Wars The Rise Of Skywalker & Hellboy 2019
Episode Date: April 15, 2019Visit MVMT.com/weeklyplanet & get 15% off your purchaseIt’s Star Wars Celebration 2019 so we get stuck into The Rise Of Skywalker, The Mandalorian, Jedi Fallen Order, Comics, more things, plus s...ome confirmation on regarding some Disney Plus Marvel shows, The Lion King trailer, a brand new Bruce Wayne and Hellboy 2019. Fun times. Thanks for the support!Star Wars 9 Trailer Breakdown: https://t.co/YqUQDD1aSqAvengers Infinity War Commentary: https://www.patreon.com/MrSundayMovies, https://weeklyplanetpod.bandcamp.com/Planet Broadcasting Refuge: https://www.facebook.com/groups/408106299968509/Steele Wars: https://www.planetbroadcasting.com/our-shows/steele-wars/0:00 The Start4:14 The Lion King trailer 29:09 Tomb Raider 210:53 New Bruce Wayne14:05 Hellboy 2019 (spoilers 25:00 - 35:21)35:21 Disney Plus Marvel shows and into43:30 The Mandalorian48:04 Star Wars movie hiatus49:57 The Clone Wars returns54:06 Vader Immortal & Jedi: Fallen Order1:03:41 Star Wars The Rise Of Skywalker1:27:03 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:33:26 Letters It’s Time For LettersThe Weekly Planet YouTube Channel: https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHFind out T-Shirts here: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesBuy the Star Wars Saga on Amazon: https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Weekly Planet, where we talk movies
and comics and TV shows.
My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday.
With me, as always, is my co-host, Nick Mason.
What energy are you bringing to the podcast right now?
What do you want me to bring?
Because I'm reflecting your energy.
You are not.
It's really up to you, if anything.
Yeah, what I do is I deliver...
Just before the podcast starts, I'm like,
man, I'm not feeling...
I don't know how this is going to go.
And then you're like, hey, everybody...
And then I'm like, James, what are you doing, man?
That's how it works.
That's a good dynamic.
I like it.
It's a great week for podcasting, Mason.
In what way?
Because we keep on going.
Because we're doing one.
Yeah.
See, I'm doing what you're doing.
Oh, no.
I don't like this.
Bit of stuff up top.
First of all, we did Infinity War commentary.
Yes.
Of sorts.
Of sorts.
We did it off Stan, the Australian streaming service.
And apparently, it's four minutes shorter than the actual movie.
Whether that be a frame rate thing.
There's a lot to unpack there.
Is it a frame rate thing?
Did they take something else?
Is there some really controversial anti-Australian stuff?
Could be.
In the movie that we've forgotten about.
I mean, it did go out of sync during it anyway, because it started buffering.
But independently of that, it's still four minutes short.
So I would recommend if you're going to, I'll link it below.
It's on Bandcamp or you can, it's on Patreon right now.
You could listen to it without it, which a lot of people do anyway.
Yes.
But there is somebody who's actually re-editing it.
Well, we received an email from Alvin Maroffo from Venezuela.
And he is, he's editing it so it syncs up correctly.
So if he's still doing that and sends it over, I'll swap it out.
Because I'm sure as hell
not editing it because i don't have time that's the i was thinking of doing it but if someone
else is doing it even better yeah let's see how that goes because it's a it's a weird thing to
yeah because you have to sync up what we're thinking yes with a movie with a movie exactly
yeah so good luck to him yeah and i guess there's also going to be four minutes of silence in there
it dispersed throughout the movie.
No, I want one four-minute block of nothingness.
Okay, we can do that too.
That's really up to him.
It's his cut.
Exactly, it's the Alvin Maroffo cut.
Yeah, it's a reinterpretation.
The other thing is the Planet Broadcasting great mates group
went down this week, apropos of nothing.
No explanation.
It doesn't seem to be any kind of hack or situation or like that
where it was deleted.
It seems to be maybe a Facebook algorithmic thing.
Same thing happened to my YouTube channel a few years ago.
It just disappeared.
They just went, you can't have this.
It just disappeared.
So there was 12,000 members in there.
Now it's gone.
What we thought we could do is if people could tweet at Facebook on Twitter,
if you care, say, where's the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates group?
Something along the lines of that.
That would be great.
Because there's no one to...
You submit a form and there's...
And it just goes into the ether.
I mean, it might be going to the exact same black hole
that the group went into.
We just don't know.
So there's not really any...
There's no sense of when it will come back or if.
But there is
a uh a temporary group which might become the the real group the real group planet broadcasting
great mates refuge yes so that is uh that's about 800 and odd members at the moment so
that just do that for the moment i guess but because even if we get it back it might have
wiped all the members we don't we don't know don't know. Maybe Levin's deleted it because he just finally got sick of it.
That's what I suspect.
Yeah, me too.
But yeah, sorry, what were you going to say?
I was going to say that it also happened over the weekend.
Yeah.
So maybe everywhere on Facebook, all the Facebook tech people are on hot.
That's right.
They're having a barbecue.
That's right.
Or whatever's happening in America right now.
It's cold, isn't it?
It's cold.
They're having a winter barbecue.
You can have a cold barbecue.
You can have a cold barbecue. A cold barbecue. Yes. No's cold, isn't it? They're having a winter barbecue. You can have a cold barbecue. You can have a cold barbecue.
A cold barbecue.
Yes.
No, they're moving into spring.
They're having a better time.
Oh.
Spring break.
They're on spring break.
Anyway, they might be back by Monday, American time.
We don't know yet.
We just don't know.
We just don't know.
But what we do know is that Lion King got a new trailer.
Yes.
And boy, do they all just look like regular animals.
Yeah.
And only a couple of them you even see speak in this. You see Scar speak. And boy, do they all just look like regular animals. Yeah.
Only a couple of them you even see speak in this.
You see Scar speak.
Yeah.
And you see either Timon or Pumbaa.
Look, I know they're- Am I pronouncing that right?
Timon?
Timon.
Timtam.
Timtam.
Timtam and Kingston.
Timtam and peanut butter.
Okay.
So the thing is, like, I know there are no black-maned lions.
I'm aware of that.
Or there is. So I'm not there are no black maned lions. I'm aware of that. Or there is.
So I'm not aware that they do exist.
Right.
Regardless, I just think make it, you can cartoonify this a little bit.
Yeah, for sure.
You can exaggerate the universe of these talking animals.
Isn't there a bit in The Lion King, a movie I haven't seen, don't they like face paint themselves at some point?
Isn't somebody face painted?
There's a.
What I'm saying is they're anthropomorphic animals to some degree.
So maybe he could just
put some dirt on his face.
Yeah.
You know?
Slick it back with mud.
Dump his head in an oil slick.
Yeah.
What year is it set?
Who knows?
Yeah.
Maybe the 90s
according to the
Divine and Bloomberg
TV series.
Yeah, right.
I remember them
fighting a chef once.
So I think it must have been
relatively modern day.
Well, I mean, yeah.
Well, chefs were
exclusive to the 90s.
That's right.
I mean, if it were set now, they'd be fighting a master chef contest.
Yeah, absolutely they would.
Or on My Kitchen Rules.
Yeah.
So, you know, you know how it is.
Look, I'm not, there's a lot of nostalgia in it and a lot of imagery that's very familiar to me or anyone.
Maybe they were fighting Chef Tony.
Who's that?
From the Miracle Blade infomercial.
Oh, maybe they were fighting that guy who salts things.
Oh, Saltz Bay.
What's his deal?
He's just a man who cuts meat and then salts it.
Fucking who cares?
Anyone can do that.
It's like podcasting.
Anyone can do it.
Any idiot can do it.
Yeah, I guess.
Does anyone combine those two things though, salting meat and podcasting?
Because I think there's a market that...
There's a hidden market.
There's a hidden market that's just right.
How do you look in a tight white tee?
I look okay.
Not at the moment.
I'm just kind of like,
because I haven't been exercising, Mason,
I'm just a bit bloody because of my surgery.
You know, I went through a quiet ordeal.
Let's go into it.
So basically...
Look, you're being really hard on yourself,
but as an objective observer,
you look like a big bag of oatmeal.
I appreciate that.
Just sloshing about, you know?
I'm going to try and go back today, actually, last night,
if I get this edited, because we are actually recording this
on the day it goes out, just hours before.
But, yeah, I don't know.
Lion King, you're saying it.
Did this get you more jazzed, less jazzed?
Where's your enthusiasms at?
Where are they at?
Because then mine is where yours at.
That's true.
We're sharing the energy.
It didn't make me more enthusiastic to say this.
Okay, independently of this show, would you see it?
I'm sure I've asked you that before.
No, absolutely not.
Not even if it came on streaming and you went, oh, yeah, Lion King.
Well, I still haven't seen Triple Frontier with Ben Affleck.
I've seen Triple Frontier.
How's that?
How's that as a movie or whatever?
It's fine.
It's absolutely fine.
It's a good dynamic and ensemble, but it's not a super we like oscar oscar isaac's probably the standout in that okay would you say that it's a it's a bizarre cast for for what the kind of
movie it is yes okay all right i just yeah i don't know i feel like they felt like real dudes that
could be friends okay but outside of that it's like all right this could have been more interesting considering who's in it okay well once i've watched triple frontier
yeah then maybe no i still wouldn't watch lion king i don't think wow yeah would you watch the
original before you watch the new one probably yeah good because you are for this show i have
to watch the same story frame by frame identical twice great stuff this week i've seen a lot of
frame by frame comparisons yeah that are this week i've seen a lot of frame by frame comparisons
yeah but like look how colorful and delightful the animated version is look at this grim shit
yeah exactly how do you feel how do you feel about it i'm very mr expert on the lion king mr
world's biggest lion king fan i'm just i don't see the point if it's just a pretty much a remake
with most of the same dialogue except it looks drabber i don't see the point like i don't that's why that's why i quite liked um i quite like the the andy circus's jungle book
even though the disney remake is quite different from the cartoon because that cartoon's pretty
crap uh-huh but i liked it because it was a story i hadn't seen before because it was based on
the original what about a gritty tailspin reboot how's that sound what? But it's in a minor key now, so it's like...
Yeah, you'd have to do it.
You get Lana Del Rey to do it or something.
Make it haunting.
Yes.
Yeah, that.
And he's smuggling heroin.
Why else would he be in that weird prop lane
that's always about to crash, you know?
I think, though, there is something to you saying that,
that they're going to burn through all these live-action remakes
and then they might move to the 90s cartoons.
Yes.
They could do your tailspins, your darkwing ducks, your goof troop.
Oh, goof troop, but they're smuggling heroin.
Smuggling heroin.
One of the guys of a goof troop.
Yes.
Oh, guys, we're taking the troop to Columbia.
Here we go, guys.
Now, I know you haven't, but have you seen a goofy movie?
No.
People are like, it's one of the best Disney movies,
but nobody talks about it.
I've also never seen it.
But have you seen, Mason, the news that Tomb Raider 2 is happening?
No.
Not the game.
Not the original series.
That already happened.
The new one, the Alicia Vikander one.
Yes.
They're doing another one.
I haven't heard that, but I've heard it now.
Yeah.
I'm surprised, but it's not unwelcome news. Yes. Because I thought another one. I haven't heard that, but I've heard it now. Yeah. I'm surprised, but it's
not unwelcome news, because I thought
that one was... I liked it. It's pretty alright.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he didn't yell
open the tomb. We've talked about that. Yeah.
But there are more secret
societies to uncover. Maybe
another one of her parents is alive. That's fine.
And if they build on this one, maybe we'll finally
get a pretty good video game
adaptation. We're already getting one this year with Detective Pikachu, apparently,
which is going to be the best movie ever made.
So you're excited for that, aren't you?
Yes.
Anyway, Tomb Raider 2, I don't know why I included it.
Only because my dog's going bananas for Goof Troop.
Yes.
She's a big fan.
No, your dog likes heroin.
Oh, okay.
That's why.
She likes the reboot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right. Now, this. That's why. She likes the reboot. Yeah. Yeah. All right.
Now, this is just Disney till the end.
Well, I've got a piece of news that you might be interested in.
I mean, it was Disney at the start, actually, and then we did two later.
Well, here's the thing.
And we're doing Hellboy.
Soon enough, this will all be Disney news.
Yes, it will.
Like, this podcast will just be Disney news because soon Disney will own everything.
Yeah.
I think somebody, I saw somebody on Twitter the other day say in the near very near future your
entertainment options will be go out for a disney or stay in for a netflix yeah these two entertainment
options also or also stay in for a disney because they also do that yeah disney plus that's true so
yeah i don't know i'm not i'm not super wrapped about disney owning everything to be honest but
what am i going to do about it? Yeah.
That's a bad attitude, though, isn't it? It's like saying, why vote?
Because you're only one man.
Exactly.
So we're going to vote Disney out?
Or in.
Let's vote the mouse out.
Goofy.
Goofy can be the new president of Disney.
I agree.
What do you got there, Mason?
You say news.
Well, I say news.
This is Titans.
Have you watched Titans yet?
Oh, no, I like this news.
I've seen the first episode, and I thought it was okay.
Okay, well, we see Batman in the Titans.
Minor spoilers probably for Titans.
We see Batman in Titans briefly.
We never see his face.
Presumably it's just a stuntman.
He's a bad face.
But they've cast Ian Glenn as Bruce Wayne.
From GOT.
From GOT.
Older.
Yes.
Ian Glenn must be at least 60. He's 57. He must be at least 55. Which is. Older. Yes. Ian Glenn must be at least 60.
He's 57.
He must be at least 55.
Which is at least 60.
Yeah.
So, yeah, okay.
Okay, so.
I think that's like kind of a fresh take on.
I don't mind that.
It's sort of Dark Knight Returns era.
Yeah.
Batman, maybe.
He looks a bit.
He reminds me a little bit of Batman Beyond Bruce Wayne.
Yeah.
Like a little bit younger than that, but he's got that kind of wrinkly head.
I was going to say, he's got the forehead ridges right there.
Do you reckon they're going to wig him up?
I think they'll wig him up, yeah.
Some grey Bruce Wayne hair, give him the Affleck Batman wig?
Yeah, I think so, yeah.
Yeah, good.
I like him.
I don't know about his American accent.
Or is he in some of the Resident Evil movies?
Yeah, he is.
He's Alexander Isaacs.
He's the doctor. He's one of the doctors. Oh, he's like... And then he's a clone of himself, Evil movies? Yeah, he is. He's Alexander Isaacs. He's the doctor.
He's one of the doctors.
Oh, he's like...
And then he's a clone of himself
and he's like,
I thought I was the...
But I'm a clone of myself.
And then he's a monster, I think.
I think he's the tyrant.
Oh, I was the clone of myself.
Yeah.
He thought.
Everyone was a clone of themselves
in that movie.
That was what was so good about it.
Yeah.
Good about it.
Even Mila Jovovich
was a clone of herself in the end.
Yes.
Because she was an old woman
in a block of ice.
Yeah.
Remember? Yes. Everyone was a clone of themselves in the end. Yes. Because she was an old woman in a block of ice. Yeah. Remember?
Yes.
Everyone was a clone of themselves.
I remember everything about those movies.
Me too.
Anyway, I reckon that'll be good.
Okay, so I just pulled a stitch out of myself, just so you know.
Out of your tum-tum?
Yeah.
It's out of my side.
That's fine.
Are they dissolving stitches?
Well, this one clearly didn't.
Are you supposed to get those removed by a professional?
I don't know, man.
What am I, a doctor?
No.
Yeah. This is literally a piece of fishing line. Look at this. You're a to get those removed by a professional? I don't know, man. What am I, a doctor? No. Yeah.
This is literally a piece of fishing line.
Look at this.
You're a podcaster, which is a-
Did I go to a fisherman?
Skill-wise, that's the exact opposite of being a doctor.
So, yeah, Ian Glenn.
I like that.
I like that, too.
There you go.
You should watch Titans.
I know.
You keep saying that, and I will, when all the other content in the universe is gone.
Okay.
And I'll watch it.
All right.
Well, I like the tease for season two as well of what they're bringing.
And they're bringing in Superboy as well, aren't they?
Yeah.
And Crypto the Superdog.
Yeah, that's the one I was talking about also, yeah.
But he looks mean.
The dog?
Yeah, isn't he mean?
Well, he's been in a little cage.
Yeah, that's not cool.
Don't be doing that to Crypto the Superdog.
That's right.
And also, as we know, if a dog can kill a man, a Superdog can kill a Superman.
A Superman, yeah. So let's say some of that. Yes. Yeah. All right. But not an Aquaman. and also as we know a dog if a dog can kill a man a super dog can kill a super man
yeah
so let's say some of that
yes
yeah
alright
but not an aquaman
too busy swimming about
I don't think crypto could
not in the water
it'd be dog paddling
that's what I'm saying
no good
and just having a good time
in the water
yeah exactly
now do you want to do
Hellboy before we do
Star Wars Celebration
or do you want to do it after
let's do
no yeah let's do
Hellboy first I think
because we'll run out of gas on Hellboy if we leave it till the do, no, yeah, let's do Hellboy first, I think. Because we'll run out of gas
on Hellboy
if we leave it till the end.
I think so, yeah.
Okay.
Let's talk about Hellboy now.
Okay, great.
All right, everybody,
if you haven't seen Hellboy,
we know.
Because nobody saw it.
A lot of people didn't see Hellboy.
So we're going to talk
non-spoilers, then spoilers,
and then we're going to,
and when there's spoilers,
we'll clearly outline
when there's spoilers,
but most of it is spoilers
in the trailers.
Yeah, that's true.
No, there's a few surprises. Yeah. Like a Catman, which was also spoilers in the trailers. Yeah, that's true. No, there's a few surprises.
Yeah.
Like a Catman, which was also spoiled in the trailers.
That was in the trailer, yeah.
I liked in the movie how they kept hinting that he wasn't,
like that he could have been a Catman.
I'm like, I know he's a Catman.
You don't need to keep teasing me that he's a Catman.
We all know the Catman is out of the cat bag.
All right?
That's right.
Okay, so Howboy has debuted third in the US box office no the cat man is out of the cat bag all right that's right okay so how boy is uh how boy has
debuted debuted third the u.s box office behind shazam and little that movie where a woman she's
like i'm the boss but now i'm a child i have not i had no idea that existed they could have said
now i'm a boss now i'm a child i can't remember okay good uh so it's only made suddenly the boss
baby yes but a girl uh it's 12 million made 12 $12 million in the US, which is not very good,
but it does have a $50 million budget.
The last one made, like, the first one made like $24 or $34
and the second one made like double that.
So this one much less.
And look, it all to me is like, what's this?
What's that?
What do you think the story was?
Oh, no.
And it's, it feels in some ways it's like Hellboy 3
because it picks up some of the threads that Hellboy 3 might have done.
I think so too, yeah.
But it's other ways.
It's just a reboot, obviously.
Anyway, it's Hellboy.
He's a boy from hell.
What's he up to?
Adventures?
Yeah.
He's saving the world sometimes.
He's done it heaps of times and now he's back.
He's got to do it again.
Look out.
Look out indeed.
Yeah.
What did you think of David Harbour as Hellboy?
Actually, before we do that,
now before we do that,
on the count of three,
did you think this movie was good or not?
You ready?
One, two, three, yes.
Sort of.
Huh, there we go.
Because this movie's gotten a real kicking.
It got thrashed.
Yeah.
I think it's good up to a point and then it's just like now we're
going here and now this character and now this and now you're you and i'm me and that's all what's
this look we're in a cave and now you're dead now you're alive again here's the thing hellboy 2 is
exactly like that as well it's more it's way more streamlined like it's made it's it's not as it's
really weirdly edited this there's some editing There's some editing issues with this. For the first 40 minutes, I'm sitting there like, I like this a lot.
Yeah, right.
And a lot of what I like about it is David Harbour.
I think he's very good.
We'll never see him again as Hellboy.
No, exactly.
We may never see Hellboy again after this.
But based on the trailers and some weird muddy dialogue in those trailers,
I'm like, this is going to be bad.
He doesn't know what he's doing in this.
This must be his first time in a big rubber mask and weird makeup.
It was.
It was.
This is going to be terrible.
But I reckon a couple of minutes in, I'm like, I'm buying this.
Yeah, same.
It's not an impersonation.
He's a bit whiny.
He's a bit like, oh, dad.
Yeah, right. That's always the other one i guess yeah i think i think that is that that's definitely a part of the the movie character that i think they were like let's let's let's have him be your dad
come on dad i didn't get a sense also that it was david harbour like i feel like he kind of
that was one of my problems with the trailers i'm like i don't he doesn't look like anybody
he just looks like a monster like i can't like know, you could see Perlman in the other one.
So I was like, I don't really see anybody in this,
but I think that kind of works as it's kind of being lost in this new
character.
Also, once I got used to the face,
just cause it's different from the Ron Perlman face.
I reckon that Hellboy look is very good.
It's very good.
Yeah.
He's got a hairy chest.
He's got a hairy back.
He's got a hairy back.
Yeah.
They should have done the cloven feet.
It's hard to do, though.
Yeah, hard to do, right.
Because you've got to keep doing that.
But now I think they could just do that with CGI.
Well, yeah, of course they would.
Yeah.
That's what I meant.
What did you think?
Whittle down his feet?
Yes.
What's wrong with you?
What's wrong with you, Mason?
You can't do that.
Give him those little stilts.
You can't do that.
No, I don't.
He's already putting prosthetics on.
Now you expect him to walk on cloven feet?
Yeah.
Mason, come on.
Whittle his regular feet off.
Come on, Mason.
All right, that was a bit unfair.
Come on.
I feel all right.
But no, I...
No, I'm standing firm.
I should have whittled his feet off.
I also liked Ian McShane, who apparently is like 76.
Yeah, right?
Incredible.
Yeah.
Incredible.
There's definitely some...
They also go back to his birth.
Oh, we get a rehash of the the the summoning from hell
of hell boy from the from the first movie and a bunch of characters are there from just having
recently re-watched the first yeah clockwork nazis there nazis there lady lady nazis there
rasputin rasputin's there um lobster johnson's there that he's a new inclusion i thought that
was ian mcShane for a bit
Oh
But it's Thomas Hayden Church
It is Thomas Hayden Church
Yeah
Anyway I thought
They were good
I didn't think
Sasha Lane or Daniel Dae Kim
Did very good English accents
Right
I thought they were pretty
And I looked them up
I knew Daniel Dae Kim wasn't
And she wasn't English
And she isn't either
But I thought it was a bit
Hmm
Okay
I don't know
I'd be interested to know
What people from England Actually think about that I think they're terrible is the correct answer there i thought
they were fine in the movie but i didn't think their accents were good yeah i did though like
the villain that's i guess why they wanted originally the for for ben ben ben damio they
wanted ed screen yeah because he's english because he's English. Because he's English. He'd be like, all right, innit? Yeah, exactly. See, I could have done it.
Yeah.
All right.
Innit?
Innit?
Innit?
Yeah.
Steak and pie.
Hellboy, innit?
You know?
I get it.
That's the boy from Hell, innit?
Innit?
But I did like the villains.
Chip Butty, innit?
It's a chip sandwich.
Oh, is it?
Hot chip.
Do you remember the show Little Britain? Sort of. Very good. Very good three jokes again and again. Oh, yeah it? Hot chip. Yeah. Do you remember the show Little Britain?
Sort of.
Very good.
Very good three jokes again and again.
Oh, yeah, good.
Didn't you think so?
Yeah.
So I thought the villains were good, as I've been trying to say.
But you keep distracting me.
With English slang. English aphorisms?
Yes, I do.
Mila Jovovich?
Yeah.
She's kind of underrated, I think, in general,
because she mostly does kind of B-grade.
Not B-grade. She mostly does Resident Evil movies. Yeah, exactly. Most of She's kind of underrated, I think, in general, because she mostly does kind of B-grade, not B-grade.
She mostly does Resident Evil movies.
Yeah, exactly.
Most of her career is Resident Evil movies.
And the occasional Fifth Element 20 years ago.
But she's good.
Yeah, I think so.
And I also like the weird warthog man.
Yes.
Quite a bit.
Who looked really good.
I think a lot of that is prosthetics and animatronics.
Clove and feet.
Clove and feet as well.
So you can do it.
They whittled his feet down.
So, yeah, I thought that was quite good.
Now, there's a lot of CGI blood in this.
That's true, yeah.
What, are you going to use real blood?
Yeah.
You're going to kill some production staff and use their blood on set?
Yes.
Yeah, that would have been cheaper as well, I reckon.
I think probably it would have been in the end.
Maybe that's how they kept the budget down in general.
I don't know.
But yeah, I liked the violence in this.
It was kind of over the top, but not...
Yeah. I don't know. It was kind of cartoony violence comic. I liked a lot of the settings, I liked the violence in this. It was kind of over the top, but not... Yeah.
I don't know, it was kind of cartoony violence comic.
I liked a lot of the settings.
I liked they went to England.
I like we saw some English countryside.
That I love.
We saw some weird English toffs going out on a giant hunt.
I thought that was good.
With a big dumb hat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That whole segment, that was where, when that whole part was happening.
Yeah.
I'm like, I hope this is the rest of the movie because this is good.
This is good.
Yeah.
And then it changes into a different thing, which I think for the worst.
The giant fight's quite good as well.
Hellboy fights three giants.
There's a bit where you see a monster, like, shuck a man's skin off his head.
Yeah.
You see that bit?
Yeah, I did see that bit.
Whoa.
Yeah.
It is good.
I think they've gone for more of a, here's the thing like it's a bit sin city violence it is a bit sin city
it's interesting because a lot of the visuals i think are quite uh a lot of the visuals are quite
like heavy metal yeah but i don't think like the music choices aren't particularly heavy metal
there's like it's all like black rebel motorcycle club yeah what have you i thought there was some
some of the musical choices were odd.
Right.
They would be kind of like, you've just put a cool song in.
Yeah, right.
But you haven't really thought about.
But at the same time, it wasn't like Highway to Hell.
No.
And Hell's Bells.
Highway to Heaven.
Highway to Heaven.
Yeah, exactly.
They just played an episode of Highway to Heaven.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Look, so yeah, there were some good special effects in this,
but there were also some atrocious special effects.
Give me an example of one.
There's a method of bringing people back from the dead.
We can contact them in the afterlife,
and they're a weird boogly ghost monster.
Yes.
There's one closer to the end, and it just looks awful.
You hated it?
Yeah.
And there's a few moments like that where it's just not good CGI.
And I don't know whether...
Because, by the way, this is incredibly troubled, this production.
Oh, the production.
Oh, you want some details on that?
Please.
Did David Harbour have some issues with some directors and things?
So it's been said that Neil Marshall, who directed this,
who's a good director.
What has he done again?
The Descent.
You ever seen The Descent?
Oh, yeah.
Okay, right, right.
He did Dog Soldiers.
Okay, all right.
He's done a bunch of good Game of Thrones episodes.
All right.
I think he did the Battle of Hardhome.
I think he did the Hardhome episode.
Oh, I remember that.
You remember that zombie snowman one?
Yeah, oh, yeah.
It was said that Marshall was frequently undermined by the producers on set
as they would give different orders to the cast.
Star David Harbourman.
More English accents.
No, wait, less.
Star David Harbourman.
More chip buddies for the cast.
Get them all greasy like a real British person.
David Harbourman, meanwhile,
walked off set and refused Marshall's request for more takes.
It's also said that he and his co-star, Ian McShane,
were among those who rewrote scenes while shooting was taking place.
Bizarrely, one of the biggest disputes reportedly came
over the appearance of a tree,
of a tree that factors heavily into the whole boy's plot.
Marshall wanted it to look realistic
while the producers insisted on being asymmetrical
and they got their way during post-production.
Imagine the biggest argument on set is the symmetry
or asymmetry of a tree.
Yeah.
The producers also took over Marshall.
That feels like just an argument for the sake of an argument.
Yeah, right.
Like they're like, well, if you won't, if I, if you,
the tree's not good enough.
Asymmetrical.
I will not move from this spot until you fix the tree.
I'm calling my agent unless you fix this tree.
It says he was, the filmmaker was never promised a final cut
and he had it taken from him right which
i think explains why the backup of this movie is an absolute disaster right yeah i don't yeah that
i lost a lot of faith in like it is very i feel it's quite video gamey the last yeah third because
it's like well we have to we're on now we're on a quest and we have to get a thing and go to a thing
and talk to a man and he'll give us another thing. Here's my backstory. Here's a flashback.
Here's her backstory.
Here's a flashback.
Yeah, so I'd struggle to kind of give this a best movie ever based on that.
But then your other option is a worst movie ever. Yeah, I know, and I don't think it's the worst movie ever.
It's like the absolute lashing that it's getting.
I don't think it's justified.
I think it's unjustified as well, yeah.
lashing that it's getting i think i think it's justified as well yeah yeah i mean you know again i'm i'm tangentially aware of a lot of hellboy stuff yeah but i haven't read every
hellboy like i know uh the the warthog man is a recurring character in in the comic books and
stuff like that so uh but i don't like this this may be a uh a brutal injustice to the comic book
version of hellboy but I quite liked it.
I've also read very little.
Less than you, I would say, if not more.
But, yeah, I feel like maybe it tried to mash too many comic book elements into this.
Yeah.
Do you want to just do spoilers?
Yeah, sure.
Spoilers.
I'm going to say best movie ever.
I'm going to say worst because then we arrive somewhere in the middle.
Okay, terrific.
Boom, I fixed it.
But I really like the first half.
Like, genuinely, this is quite good. I agree. I fixed it. But I really like the first half. Like genuinely, this is quite good.
I agree.
I think it's worth watching just for the first half.
Yeah, I would agree with that too.
I mean, you know, most people's attention span
is done by two thirds of the way through a movie.
Just tune out.
Tune out, man.
Bring an extra toasted sandwich.
Please do.
Into the theatre like I often do.
You would, nerd.
Yeah, I do.
Okay, so spoilers.
Yes.
It's also a King Arthur movie?
Yes, it is, yeah.
When have those ever worked?
Never.
The only...
Not only the kid King Arthur movie is really good.
I've heard that also.
I don't think it made a lot of money.
It's by Dexter Fletcher.
Is it?
He wrote it?
No, he directed it, I think.
Did he really?
I think so.
I thought Joe Carnahan...
I don't know.
I'm just throwing that out there.
Is it The Kid Who Would Be King?
Yeah, let's find out.
Joe Cornish.
That's who I'm...
Yeah, the guy did Attack the Block.
Oh, yeah, yeah, you're right.
That's who I had in mind, but I still said the wrong thing.
All right, anyway.
So I'm still right.
Yeah, anyway, what I'm saying is the only British mythological saga that will ever work
on screen is obviously Robin Hood.
Yes.
Because, you know, we got the most recent Robin Hood one
and that stormed the box office.
Yeah, crushed it.
Stormed the reviews.
Ten picture deal for everybody.
Can't wait.
We got two or three in the 90s maybe.
Yeah.
One was a parody.
One was the Carrie Elms one.
Yes.
Get it, Mason?
No, I got it.
You turned them around.
Because the, yeah.
Yeah, no, I get it.
Because the Kevin Costner one's a joke also.
Yeah, no, I get it.
All right.
Like it was meant to be serious, but it's a joke movie.
It's not a real movie.
So they lure Hellboy to England in the promise of a giant hunt
because they need him, and then they betray him and stab him a bunch.
So great.
Yeah.
I didn't see it coming.
I also didn't see it coming.
He was in a lot of trouble.
He looked like he was going to die.
Yeah.
And then after he gets up and he's just beaten and been stabbed,
he has to fight three enormous giants.
That was a great sequence, I think.
All of that is fantastic.
And I felt like in a lot of ways that the Ron Perlman one,
you can punch him a hundred times and he'll fly through a wall and whatever.
Yes, exactly.
It's mostly indestructible.
Like if you're a call from...
I mean, he gets stabbed in one of them with a magic blade that yeah hey buddy
your kid has has approached the window of the uh the podcast studio and just look concerned
and then run away again we see you you got your you sneaky sort oh it's him and the dog now
here we go i don't know what he said.
He's a mystery, that kid.
Who knows what he's up to?
I have no idea.
Oh, yeah.
So in the previous couple of Hellboy movies,
one of the aspects I didn't like on the rewatch
was the fact that he's basically indestructible.
Yeah, except for the magic blade.
Except for the magic blade.
And it's just him leaping into the mouths of giant monsters
and detonating dozens of hand grenades and then he's fine.
Sure, yeah.
So what's the, you know.
Yeah, but here he can be stabbed and electrocuted and punched
and all that.
Yeah, I agree.
I absolutely agree.
So they explore his origin because he's the son,
he's the descendant of King Arthur,
but he's also the son of a demon or whatever.
So he's got both of that.
And so he's supposed to bring about the apocalypse,
but he's a good bloke.
So he doesn't in the end.
It was just felt a bit like, and now we're going to see Merlin. Merlin's, oh, now you've got to pick up the sword. he's a good bloke so he doesn't in the end it was just felt a bit like and now we're going to see merlin merlin's oh now you're going to pick up the sword
don't pick up the sword oh you've left the sword wait the sword's under the church grab the sword
he grabbed the sword and it's now you've got to choose whether you're gonna keep holding the sword
or or not destroy the world he's put the sword down yeah let's put the sword down but even like
the inclusion of like the pig man yep i again i like
that character but i didn't get of so he just wanted to grow up human as a human girl yeah so
the idea so so when when fairies steal a child they leave a changeling in place yes and the idea
he that he was hoping that he could be raised as a as a as a real girl yeah and and and live a happy
life instead of i guess living in the underworld where everything's yuck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, Hellboy ruined his life.
Yeah, but I think that's fine.
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, so he gets...
And even...
Because that surprised me when he got big
because he gets all the powers from the underworld
given to him or whatever.
And he just beats up Hellboy quite thoroughly.
I thought, you know, that was an interesting element
where she made a henchman that was stronger than he was yeah right uh-huh yeah but then there's a speech
at the end where he's a weird so there's a in this movie one of the characters who's alice in
wonderland or is she because there's also those books exist within the universe uh no i think no
i think she's not alice in wonderland right she she she she gives him
some some uh she gives him a verse from alice in wonderland so he knows that she is alice
but i don't think she's that alice okay right yeah i think yeah i thought that might have been
like two or like she's a descendant or whatever maybe can't rule it out can we anyway uh she has
a power where she can see the dead and also bring the dead back by vomiting up a weird,
spooky, boogly ghost.
Yes.
And the ghost is like, this is my information.
And there's a bit where Ian McShane talks to Hellboy at the end.
Yes.
And it looks ridiculous.
It does look ridiculous.
It's horrible.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But is that because you were just not expecting to see
a weird shirtless Ian McShane?
Well, I saw it earlier in the movie with somebody else.
Yeah, right.
And it didn't look that great then, but I felt like by the end,
I think they probably knew this wasn't going well.
And they didn't really finish it, to be honest.
Yeah.
But just by the end and just the visiting and the going here and what's this
and what's your story and tell me your backstory and here's a flashback
and get this weapon.
Is it a magic weapon? Yes. Where's Mer merlin this is merlin and you're king arthur and and the it's uh the witch
this is the witch and this is the witch's friends this one betrayed her but i'll kill those two and
it's just it's a bit much isn't it it's a bit much it could be tweaked in editing if anybody
would care to do that but what i did once you finished editing our infinity war commentary yeah if you'd like to get a cam version of hellboy 2019 and then edit
the back end of it out get on it get right on it so i just thought it was a bit how did you like
the recharacterization of uh john hurt to ian mcshane did you like that i think i like the
ian mcshane version better uh better. No, I like both versions.
Yeah.
I don't know about more, but he was a bit kind of gruffer and working class.
Yeah.
Oh, you would like this.
The magical elements of it.
Yes.
They brought more mysticism into it.
That's the stuff that you like from the old movies.
Yeah, look, I prefer-
More relics and-
Yeah, relics and sort of based on more historical, you know,
it seems to be based more on more, like, historical mythology.
Yeah.
Like giants in England and fairies and changelings and what have you.
And magical items.
Exactly, and less golden armies.
Yeah.
You know.
Which I thought was good.
Like, there's no legend on Earth of a clockwork army created by the elves.
I disagree.
Well, there is now.
I guess there is now.
Anything else to add before I...
Because of Hellboy 2.
I had some parents...
Not some parents, some bloody...
No, add some parents.
No, this is from Batman.
The first tweet is from...
I got some reviews from Batman with parents.
Okay.
Do you have anything else to add?
I don't think Batman with parents would be a very effective Batman.
No.
It would just be a man.
It'd just be man.
Batman with parents says, though,
Hellboy was a dumb, fun, perfectly fine movie. Definitely a movie I'd put on while my friends are hanging out, man no we just be a man just be man Batman with parents says they how boy was dumb fun perfectly
fine movie definitely a movie I put on while my friends are hanging out half paying attention to
best movie ever uh would you write where would you rank this in terms of Resident Evil movies
it's probably the best Resident Evil movie it's almost certainly the best Resident Evil movie
yeah uh it's got more interesting things in it than all of the Resident Evil movies combined
uh Benson made says big mistake on on Watch How Boy this week.
Why did I have to put all the best parts in the trailer?
There was no heart left in any of it.
Should have been at home instead of packing my trip to Costa Rica,
where I shall be next week.
Speaking of.
Listen to you after.
This guy just wanted to brag about going to Costa Rica.
Yeah, I know.
We get it.
You're going on a nice little holiday.
We get it.
Yeah.
Speaking of stuff in the trailer, and again, spoilers for this movie.
Yes.
What did you think of the big old monsters bent about destroying London and the world?
Yeah.
You liked them?
They were fine.
I thought they were pretty good.
There's some interesting designs.
Speaking of, we've recently seen other movies that have some big old terrifying monsters in them.
Which one?
Shazam.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, go on.
But I was going to say.
Yeah, better than those.
Spoilers for Shazam.
Yeah, they were better than those.
More distinct.
I think more terrifying.
Yep.
Again, a lot of tearing of faces off, which I thought was good.
But then they all kind of went back in the earth and the earth sealed up or whatever.
That's true.
Yeah.
None of those people became alive again.
Oh, yeah.
Some people fell into the earth as well.
Some people got their faces torn off.
That's true.
Some people got impaled.
On legs.
And became leggings.
Yeah, that's no good.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
All in all, yeah.
Wasn't it?
Yeah.
Wasn't it?
I think if it had been the second half was better than the first half, then I would have
enjoyed it.
Yeah, right. Because I would have enjoyed it. Yeah, right.
Because I would have come out.
Enjoying it.
I enjoyed Lobster Johnson and his weird little claw on his hand.
Yeah, his claw branding.
That was good, yeah.
Okay.
Do you want to talk about Disney Plus?
Yes.
New shows announced.
This is what they're called.
The Marvel stuff.
WandaVision.
Terrible title.
Horrible.
The worst title I've probably ever heard for a TV show.
What about even if you put an and in there, that's better.
Yeah, right?
Vision Wanda is not good either.
No, it's a bad.
Yeah, bad.
The Vision and Scarlet Witch.
Is there some, you know what, it's probably that, I bet, you know what it is,
Marvel probably licensed out the title The Vision and Scarlet Witch in the 90s
to some TV production company for $10.
That's true.
And now they can't use it anymore.
And I just realized you can't do Vision Wanda because that's VW.
And the logo is probably WV in a circle.
Yeah, right.
So, yeah.
No good.
I think it could be really good, though.
The show itself could be good, yeah.
I mean, there's some great comic runs based on those two,
and they're good in the movies.
The other one is The Falcon and Winter Soldier.
And, of course, we've got they're we've talked about those before
but now they're happening now it does question does the fact that what wandavision is coming out
yeah is that does that is that does that present us with an endgame spoiler
because i feel oh yeah i guess can this be set in between, like...
Because one criticism of the Marvel Cinematic Universe
is that we see...
They announce a bunch of stuff before.
Well, that too.
But also, like, they meet in Age of Ultron.
Yeah.
Wanda and Vision.
WandaVision, the couple.
That's their cute couple name, WandaVision.
WandaVision.
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Exactly.
His brain's a computer.
He's going to be good at that.
He'll be so good at long.
And long division's hard, man.
It's very difficult.
So they meet in Age of Ultron.
We know you're good at long division.
People are good at it.
You don't need to tell us, all right?
Some people are good at it.
Don't email us with a handy tip for doing easy long division. We've got calculators. We don't need to tell us, all right? Some people are good at it. Don't email us with a handy tip for doing easy long division.
We've got calculators.
We don't care.
I'll just ask Siri to do it or the vision because he's good at it.
Exactly.
So they meet in Age of Ultron.
Then in Civil War, they're friends, but then they're on opposite sides.
And then by Infinity War, they're in love.
So exactly.
Kisses all day outside the deep fried kebabs shop.
But we don't see that romance blossoming.
So is this TV series set in between Age of Ultron and Infinity War
or is it set afterwards and they've both survived?
I would say after.
I would also say after, yeah.
But it's nice to speculate, isn't it?
Yeah, definitely, yeah. I mean, we might see flashbacks yeah because i was gonna say so the criticism
often of the marvel cinematic universe is that because we don't have that we don't have multiple
monthly issues coming out every month yeah yeah like in a comic book we don't we didn't see that
romance happening so we just have to sort of fill in the blanks in our own minds yes so maybe with
this tv series we could get some flashbacks,
but they're like,
hey,
would you just hang out in Avengers?
Yeah.
And then also that's,
that goes for the Falcon and Winter Soldier because they're both dead
currently.
Yes.
But I think they're really,
they're pushing this Disney plus thing.
So they need to announce some stuff.
Yeah.
Right.
I mean,
in two weeks,
no one's going to care because we're going to know exactly what would have happened people will forget uh-huh and but
loki can be a prequel which i think it is as well but yeah did you hear also there's a hawkeye series
in development no he's gonna pass the torch to kate bishop oh wait i did hear yes so she'll be
back if she's dead or whatever's happening in endgame yeah that's all fine we've talked about
hawkeye series for ages,
being like they should do that, and they are.
There's also that what if animated movies that they were talking about, they're making them.
The first one is going to be Peggy Carter as Captain America.
Question.
Yes.
Do you think that Hawkeye is going to meet Kate Bishop?
She's a tattoo removalist maybe.
I hope so.
Or a hairstylist initially.
For his sake, yes. I hope so. I hairstylist initially for his sake yes i hope so
i hope she does it all yeah she's like yeah i cut hair and remove tattoos i'm a general i'm a general
uh disaster repair type stylist so i do it all i can do i can work with anybody who's next
oh my god this is the worst i've seen if you mentor me how to shoot arrows i'll remove this tattoo
and fix your head yeah so you're
saying animated movies yeah so peggy carter as captain america that's quite liked and steve
rogers will be in it but he's skinny steve rogers and he's in a suit of armor and apparently there's
going to be new and returning cast members what is happening here what is this what do you mean
what is going on is this is this mcu universe this If. Oh, it's a What If. What If.
Oh, it's a What If.
What If.
What If.
So, yeah, I like that.
That sounds fun.
They haven't confirmed it, but it sounds like Hayley Atwell is probably going to come back and do it.
So I guess these are sort of linked to the MCU in terms of some character.
But then again, like, Coulson's in Spider-Man, the TV series.
He's the principal of his school.
That's true, yeah.
Whatever, so that's fine.
But other news related to the Disney Plus plus is uh the simpsons going there uh they had that did
you see that anime oh because fuck because disney that's fox they see the animated clip where they're
like all hail the lords of disney or whatever you know they did that they're like it's good
joke you're referencing it but you've mocked disney mercilessly yeah right over the years
yeah well these that i watched uh Captain Marvel will be there day one.
Movies like Mary Poppins.
All Pixar movies within the first year.
And they announced some Star Wars shows.
Sorry, Star what?
Star Wars shows. Star what?
Oh, no, he's back.
That's right.
The man who loves Star Wars.
No, Star what?
The man who loves Star Wars is here.
I can't believe you brought back your famous character,
guy who loves Star Wars. That's not what he is. I don't know who you're talking about. I don't believe you brought back your famous character, guy who loves Star Wars.
That's not what he is.
I don't know who you're talking about.
I don't even know what that is.
He's been on vacation for a little while, but he's back.
People have been requesting it.
What an inopportune time for him to be back.
The guy who doesn't know what Star Wars is.
Hope there's no Star Wars news this week.
But it's all Star Wars news.
What was?
Well, look, if you want to get in on some Star Wars news,
from the ground up, a guy who doesn't know what Star Wars is,
Steel Saunders does a podcast called Steel Wars.
He is at Star Wars Celebration.
And if you're like, what's that?
He's been attending all the major panels,
interviewing cast members as well from the new Star Wars film
that you'll love once you see them all.
Once they know what Star Wars is.
Once you've seen all 15 films.
If you had to explain whatever this thing is, how would you do it?
Okay.
Have you seen Star Wars?
No.
That was my reference point to kick off.
Yes.
Because most things now are just a riff on that.
Just a thinly veiled Star Wars.
Yeah, right?
Yeah.
It's like Jupiter ascending a bit.
Yeah.
Have you seen that? Not yet. No, it's still on my list. Oh, no. I can't even use Yeah. It's like Jupiter ascending a bit. Yeah, have you seen that?
Not yet.
Oh, no.
I can't even use my second touchstone.
Jupiter ascending.
Have you seen Independence Day?
Yes.
It's like that, except it's in the past, but with better technology.
Oh.
You happy with that?
Yes.
You know how they fly into the alien spaceship at the end of Independence Day and they blow it up?
Yeah.
They do that in Star Wars, but every movie.
Oh, sounds a bit repetitive.
Well, it can be.
Maybe one of them should shake it up a bit and not have that?
No.
Do you think people would like that?
Who would want that?
You don't know anything about Star Wars.
You don't know what people want.
I'm just saying hypothetically.
Hypothetically, if you've done like seven of the movies,
and then maybe if you're doing the eighth one,
the formula would be a bit stale.
Sure, yeah.
So maybe you would do something a little bit different.
I think people would like that.
I think 100% of the people who watch that would like it.
So in the eighth Star Wars movie, you do something completely different
and everybody would be on board for it.
Everybody would be on board for it, yeah.
So you'd maybe surprise kill a major villain.
Yeah.
Weaponize like a form of interstellar travel.
Yeah, that sounds really good.
Use some kind of projection ability to make yourself appear in a fight
on the other side of the universe.
If you are subverting the tropes of this star thing,
then I think if the tropes are established
and then you subvert them a bit, I think that would be great.
Don't you think some people don't want that, though?
No.
I mean, because there's also people who don't want that,
but there's also people who say they're okay with it,
but maybe make a better version of that.
Oh, like some people in public could remake it.
All I'm saying is I like that movie.
Yes.
And there's a guy here some weeks who also enjoys it.
Oh, good.
He's not here right now.
Yes, all right.
But I think there are very valid criticisms of that movie
and people who don't like it.
All right.
I don't think everybody who doesn't like it is a baby,
is what I'm saying.
Let's say they did a sequel to that one.
What do you think that would be all about?
I think they'd probably lean heavily on things that were safe
and people enjoyed.
Maybe bring back some existing characters that are long dead
and then inexplicably have them show up at the very last film
at the end of a nine-film saga.
Saga, yeah, okay.
That's what I would say.
Anyway, before we get into that, though,
The Mandalorian will debut with Disney+,
and then working on Cassian Andor with K2SO, his series,
and Alan Tudyk is coming back.
Also, I saw in an interview that Alan Tudyk said he was 5'11".
He's not 5'11".
We saw him.
We met him that time.
We didn't meet him.
We saw him.
He walks past us.
Yes.
Do you think he's shorter than 5'11"? Well, I well i'm 5 10 and i reckon he was maybe shorter than me wow you towered over him you threatened him i threatened him with a knife you threatened him
that's right maybe he got that leg lengthening surgery we're constantly mentioning yeah do you
think we should sometimes we're like we should get some new sponsors you know maybe we should
get leg lengthening surgery i'm gonna do one and see how it goes. Okay, cool. It feels good.
Yeah.
It feels good.
What if they're like, okay, we're going to lengthen one of your legs,
and if the ad goes well, we'll lengthen your other leg.
Yeah, I'd roll the dice on that.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
But so, yeah, so Steel Wars, the podcast, I'll link it below.
Yeah.
He covers everything relating to this.
Oh, well, I think I'll go.
I think I'll go and listen to that.
Okay.
Bye.
Bye.
I know I've fallen down some stairs.
I'm dead.
But you'll never get a chance to listen to Steel Wars.
I know about Star Wars.
They'll play it at his funeral.
It's fine.
Okay.
Oh, you're back.
I'm back.
Yeah.
So we got some leaked footage from the Mandalorian.
They didn't reveal it.
Oh, when you say leaked, you mean that featurette we saw?
Yeah, that.
I saw that.
Yeah. So basically, it looks like they're they're like hey adults here's your Star Wars
shut up uh-huh uh so but it looks good wait what do you mean by hey adults because a lot of the
Star Wars stuff is for kids and I don't mean that in a negative way I mean because a lot of Star
Wars is just for kids yeah including most of the movies except for the one where the man is lit on fire. That's not for kids as much.
But this one I think is definitively like, no, this is like The Wire.
This is grown up.
Yeah, this is The Wire, exactly.
Which I haven't seen.
Do you know that started in 2002?
Yes.
That's insane.
Yes.
That doesn't even make any sense to me.
How can it be that good or be that old?
Nothing's good from back then.
No, that's true.
The TV series now and again.
Early 2000s.
I don't think so.
Gross.
Yeah, but from what I saw of that, from the leaked footage,
I mean, again, great directors.
Yes.
Real good technology looking stuff.
You know what I appreciated?
In the room, people whooped when it was appropriate to whoop,
and then they were silent so we could hear some things.
Did you watch the Star Wars Episode IX panel?
No.
Borderline unwatchable.
Good, good.
Who was on the panel?
We'll get to it.
Okay, cool.
Yeah.
I haven't had a chance to watch the full Mandalorian panel.
I've only seen that leaked footage, so I don't really...
Because it just came out this morning.
Yes.
And we're recording this in the morning.
So, no, I thought it was...
This looks really good.
Five years after Return of the Jedi as well, they confirmed the timeline.
They're still stormtroopers.
They're still Mandalorians.
Yes.
He's a gunslinging dude.
He is a gunslinging dude, yeah.
Do you think he's going to be a bit rough and tumble and a bit kind of like,
you can't trust this guy, but then he has a heart of gold?
That's a good question.
We don't, I mean, it's Pedro Pascal.
Yes.
But we never see him take the helmet off.
No.
Is he ever, we see him put the helmet on, I think.
I think we see him like.
Adjust it?
Yeah.
It's a bit wonky.
Well, he's just like on set and he just doesn't have it on.
Oh, okay.
Right, right, right.
But you're talking from the actual footage from the.
Yeah.
Is he going to take it off?
Is he a mystery gunslinger the whole thing?
I think he'll take it off.
I hope so.
Yeah.
He's a known brand.
That's right.
He's big business.
I get it.
He's in Triple Frontier probably. He's in Triple Frontier probably.
He's in Triple Frontier probably.
I think he is.
He might be.
I think he is.
I think I saw a Google Auto Complete interview with him.
Oh, with him and Diego Luna.
They're both in it.
That's why I was confused.
I was like, have I confused him?
Because they're both in Star Wars stuff.
No, I think it was Pedro Pascal and-
Because they're mates.
No, the other guy.
Diego Luna.
No, not Diego Luna.
The other guy.
You just did a muscle thing. No, the guy. Great hair. Jon Favre mates. No, the other guy. Diego Luna. No, not Diego Luna. The other guy. You just did a muscle thing.
No, the guy.
Great hair.
Jon Favreau.
No.
Vince Vaughn.
No.
He's in Ex Machina.
What's his name again?
Oh, Oscar Isaac.
He's in it as well.
Is Diego Luna in Triple Frontier?
I don't think he is.
Oh my God.
Let me check the cast of Triple Frontier.
That movie I'm definitely saying.
My internet's not working.
What am I even doing? What are you thinking? What am I doing with my life, Mason? Anyway,. My internet's not working. What am I even doing?
What are you thinking?
What am I doing with my life, Mason?
Anyway, Mysterious Gunslinger.
What else are we getting in there?
What are we getting?
IG-88's in it.
IG-88's in it.
Bosk is in it, probably.
Do you like Bosk?
Yes.
What do you like about him?
I like Dengar.
I like Dengar, too.
I like that guy who looks like the devil.
Is he in it?
I don't think he's in it.
No.
But they could sneak him in.
Do you think it's actually IG-88? Much like the devil. He's very sneaky. He'll get it? I don't think he's in it. But they could sneak him in. Do you think it's actually IG-88?
Much like the devil.
He's very sneaky.
He'll get in there, mate.
He's not in it.
Okay, good.
He's not in the cast.
Look, I don't have anything else to say about this.
We'll talk about it more when it...
It feels very...
Just from the stance I see him take
in a lot of the very small clips of him we've seen,
it feels very spaghetti.
It feels a little spaghetti western-esque
totally yeah which i like a lot yeah absolutely do you think there'll be any do you think there'll
be like any uh quick draws quick draws in the town square apparently there's a bit where he
shoots like there's he's confronted by four stormtroopers and like there's four of us and
he's like i like those odds and they're like oh this guy's business you know what i mean and then
they shoot him all four of us shoot him and then he's like
I like these odds
significantly less
I'm shot
I meant like
I like them for you
not for me
anyway based on
the footage we've seen
which is somebody
camming
a screen
it looks great
it looks
and thank you that guy
because you didn't film it sideways
or from a weird angle
yes
we really appreciate it
it looks like the movies
which is what we want the other thing is as well because it's coming to disney plus disney plus might not be rolling
out in most countries in the world other than the us straight away oh so i'm hoping that it comes to
stan because stan have everything disney at the moment yes except apparently civil war for some
reason it's got all the marvel movies like except civil war huh maybe it's a spider-man thing maybe
i don't know but uh i otherwise're going to be pirating this movie.
It looks so good.
It looks like a movie.
Oh, my goodness.
Okay, what have we got next, Mason?
Let me tell you this.
Please.
Here we go.
This is your favorite news of all time.
All right, here we go.
Star Wars movies are going on hiatus after Episode IX.
Bob Iger said initially,
we have not announced any specific plans for movies thereafter. There initially we haven't now we have not announced
any specific plans for movies thereafter there are movies in development we have not announced
them we will take a pause sometime and reset because the cyborg because the skywalker saga
comes to an end with the ninth movie there will be other star wars movies but this is a bit of
hiatus bit of hiatus so apparently they're still going to be working on the ryan johnson slash uh
game of thrones db wise benioff trilogies or whatever at the same time.
But probably 2022 is when we'll start to see other things.
Oh, sweet relief.
You feel good?
Yes.
Will we be 40 by then?
Some of us will.
Yeah, some of us will.
Yeah.
Some of us.
Wait, 2022.
Yeah, right.
We'll certainly be an age.
Yes.
We'll definitely be an age.
We'll be 22 or a different age.
So I don't, yeah i'm not i'm definitely
not against this but i think they they did a weird strategy i think making solo and solo
tank they went oh people don't want people sick of movies no yeah right not necessarily that it's
nobody wants to see a han sol if look i'd be happier with this if they'd made the obi-wan
movie then they're right i'm like great good whatever. I never have to see any of these ever again.
Yeah, so that's the only thing where I'm like,
I would have liked to have seen that Obi-Wan movie.
Yeah, right.
But maybe it's going to be a TV show as well.
They also mentioned that.
So I'll take that also.
Yeah.
Just put him in the bloody, get him back.
Get Ewan McGregor back.
What if they put him in The Mandalorian?
He's dead.
He'd be dead by then.
It's five years after.
Still, flashbacks. Just make him show up at it. All right, I wasn't thinking, all right? He's dead. He'd be dead by then. It's five years after. Still, flashbacks.
Just make him show up at it.
I wasn't thinking, all right?
Just think, Mason, for once in your life.
What are you, the guy who doesn't know anything about Star Wars?
He fell down some stairs and died.
That's right, yes.
But his spirit entered me.
Well, nobody's ever really gone, Mason.
That's very true, yeah.
As long as we remember them and also they're a viable brand to be resold.
Yes, that's right.
The Clone Wars, there was a panel for that.
They're bringing back 12 episodes to cap off the series,
the animated series.
Okay, cool.
Ahsoka and Darth Maul will battle two of your favorite characters,
one of which you know.
Yes.
The other which you don't.
Correct.
Good.
Which is which, who knows.
Who knows.
But the other thing is the Caravan of Garbage this week is on,
we covered the Clone Wars animated series from 2003.
We did, yeah.
That's out on Tuesday.
I'm really excited to, yeah, I was really excited to talk about that.
And you were also some of it, for some of it.
I certainly said some words about it, yeah.
So Ben's working on that, editing at the moment.
Hey, it's ads.
It's ads, everyone.
Just one.
No, go on
That's a good amount of enthusiasm
But give us more enthusiasm
Mason
You're really not selling this
Look, we love movement watches here
I absolutely love movement watches
At the Weekly Planet
You wear one to the show literally every week
I'm wearing one right now
And I'm wearing a little matching bracelet with it
What have you got there?
They do match
They're the same colours They're a little rose gold I'm wearing a Voyager I've got a little matching bracelet with it. What have you got there? They do match. They're the same colours.
They're a little rose gold.
Excellent.
I'm wearing a Voyager.
I've got a little rose gold case.
I've got a little matching rose gold bracelet to go with it.
A little team up.
I'm very fashion forward.
I don't disagree with you, Mason.
Yes.
Is that one of your new favourite designs?
Or is it a new design?
Is it one of your favourite designs?
This is a classic design.
This is a perennial design, I feel.
I wear this one most days because it just goes with everything. design is it one of your favorite classic design this is a perennial design i feel i feel that i
wear this one most days yes because it's just goes with everything everything i'm wearing a button-up
shirt but i could be wearing a t could be wearing a singlet next time if we do an ad for these guys
i want you to bring a series of clothes and we'll do a montage okay which we will film and put on
youtube same watch different shirts how about this no about this? It's an audio montage though.
Ooh, t-shirt. A tuxedo.
Ooh.
A scuba outfit. Yes.
The thing about Movement Watches is, Mason,
they're a truly ground-up entrepreneurial story. Success story.
Ooh. Just like us.
Except for the success.
Yeah, exactly. Except for the success.
They bloody lived on a tight budget like we all do, Mason,
except for those bloody fat cats in bloody Hollywood and politics
and other things.
Every industry we're not in.
Why didn't we get into any of those industries?
It's a good question, yeah.
But their watches are all about keeping it simple
and keeping the price down.
They don't blop your wrist with text messages or literal explosions.
None of those things. They will not explode on you. I wouldn't blop your wrist with text messages or literal explosions. None of those things.
They will not explode on you.
I wouldn't want either of those.
Definitely not.
One, for peace of mind.
Secondly, for peace of mind, but also I don't want to lose an arm.
The thing is, because they're able to keep the price down because they cut out the middleman.
We know a little something about cutting out the middleman.
We know about that.
A watch of similar build quality will be anywhere between $400 to $500 at least.
But movement watches start at just $95.
That's an excellent price.
They do sunglasses.
That's right.
They do bracelets.
They do watches.
Watches.
That's right.
That I'm currently wearing.
I've seen the logo.
I'm aware.
Think about all the money you can save on movement watches by buying a movement watch.
That's what I'm saying.
Well, see, here's the thing.
I don't have any concept of saving.
Like once I've taken the money that I've saved
from buying movement watches,
what I'm going to do is I'm going to funnel that
into more movement watches.
Interesting.
As you've seen.
So you're going to chuck it back into movement watches.
Back into movement watches
because I believe in movement watches.
You got to spend money to make watches.
That's very true.
That's what they say, isn't it?
Yes, exactly.
They've got clean design.
They're minimal.
They're really quality products. They've? Yes, exactly. They've got clean design. They're minimal. They're really quality products.
They've sold over 2 million watches in 160 countries.
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That's crazy.
Yeah, I know, right?
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It's a really good, solid all-rounder.
It goes with every shirt you've got.
Scuba outfit.
Scuba outfit.
Yeah.
Prison garb.
Prison garb, exactly, yes.
Prison guard garb.
That's right.
Both sides of the fence can wear a movement watch.
Yeah.
They can look at each other from across the yard and go,
Oh, Weekly Planet movement watches. Very good. Guess we're not so different after all. Stay away from the watch. They can look at each other from across the yard and go, Oh, weekly planet over watches.
Very good.
Guess we're not so different after all.
Stay away from the bars.
You want some video game news though?
Yes.
Vader Immortal.
It's a VR experience.
It's coming to your headsets.
You've got to escape from Vader's castle and use a lightsaber.
How'd you get there in the first place?
What's the mystery? How'd you get there in the first place? What's the mystery?
How'd you get there in the first place?
That's the mystery.
You were born there.
Huh.
So you're his kid?
Yep.
You're Luke Skywalker.
As a baby.
As a baby.
Because otherwise you'd remember this.
Yeah, exactly.
It's in continuity.
Obi-Wan would be like, oh, your father was a Jedi.
And you'd be like, nah.
I was in a bloody castle.
I had to escape.
I had to do a VR experience to get out of there.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I won't get that because I don't have a VR headset.
But you've got a phone.
No, it's not like that.
Okay, right.
It's like a...
Oh, it's a VR for rich people.
Yeah, it's a VR for rich people.
Okay, right.
But in other video game news, they reviewed more of Jedi Fallen Order.
Yeah, it is.
It's Respawn Entertainment who've done Titanfall and Apex Legends and a bunch of other things
that are good.
It's single player
with no microtransactions
and everybody applauded.
So good on EA.
So you know that system
we developed
to really screw you over.
Remember last time we did that
and everybody hated it.
Well, we've decided
it's more financially viable
to not do that.
Everybody was like,
yay!
You're so wonderful.
Wow.
Look, it's definitely good news.
Yeah, for sure.
Because all I want is a single player.
That's all we want.
All I want is single player games forever.
I don't have any multiplayer friends.
I'm really bad at multiplayer now.
Yes, yes.
So I'm not winning anything there.
Yeah.
Maybe if you put me on Mario Kart 64,
I might beat you if I'm like you.
Yeah, sure.
They didn't show any combat, but the trailer-
Star Wars Mario Kart 64.
Well, there is Super Bombad Racing where they've all got big heads
and they're all in hover karts or whatever.
Don't like it.
You familiar with that?
No.
There's also Star Wars Demolition or Demolitions
where you play as different Star Wars vehicles
in a demolition derby environment.
Oh, wow.
It's from like 2000 or something like that.
Yeah.
So it's like Death Star versus Mousetroid.
Yeah, that's right, exactly.
Cool.
They've described the combat as thoughtful combat,
so it's not just slashy-button-mashy.
Oh, slashy-button-mashy.
It's, you know...
I was like, thoughtful combat, that sounds really good,
but then you said slashy-button-mashy,
and I'm like, well, I like that even more.
Oh, that one, yeah.
So some people have said it's maybe Dark Soul-esque.
It's probably a bit easier than that with parries and such.
And she plays a Jedi in hiding who comes out of hiding, a Jedi Padawan.
He is.
And the second sister comes after you, which is basically Darth Vader has this set of Inquisitors,
which he uses to wipe out Jedi.
They're actually former Jedi themselves.
And they're like, we don't want to be murdered.
So we'll murder.
Okay, nice.
If you read the Darth Vader comic run, which you haven't.
Haven't yet.
You should.
It's really good.
All right.
So that's canon.
That's canon.
So this game is canon.
This game is canon.
For now.
And the second sister, who's the villain in this, appears in like one panel.
So they're like, see?
Yeah, see?
We've tied it in.
Tied it all together.
Don't worry about it.
It all makes sense.
The trailer's very intriguing.
I liked it.
Yeah.
Well, that's apparently in-game graphics,
but never believe anything ever.
No, that's true.
Even though all of this looks,
all this points to good things.
Remember when we saw the images
from the Spider-Man video game
and then it came out
and the water wasn't quite as deep as we thought it was going to be?
I never played it because of that.
Yeah, right?
Yeah, I threw out every video game console I've ever owned.
Yeah, because the water didn't have the depth you expected.
Didn't have the depth, that's right.
The other thing is Cameron Monaghan is playing the Jedi.
Your mate?
He follows me on Twitter.
Oh, your mate?
I messaged him and I'm like, send me a copy immediately
or I'll tell everybody where you live.
No, I didn't bother him.
But good on him.
So the plot seems to be that you're in hiding
and if you reveal your Jedi powers, they come get you.
They come get you.
Okay, so the second sister can sense you.
Yes, but I reckon we'll also get other Inquisitors
and probably a Darth Vader and whatever.
So I think it's going to be all of that.
Do you think the more you see Darth Vader?
No, wait.
Let me finish.
I'm the guy who knows too much about Star Wars,
so I know what you're going to say,
and I've already got my answers.
All right, I'm ready.
Here we go.
Okay, so do you think...
No, no, sorry, go on.
So do you think that if you keep putting Darth Vader in things
where he isn't the victor or like the menacing...
Yeah, Darth Vader.
Darth Vader.
Do you think that dilutes his image a little bit?
Can be.
Like if there's a whole bunch of prequel stories
where he's constantly trying to get the good guys
and then being dashed at the last moment.
Yeah.
Do you think... Often a lot of the prequel stuff they do with him is he kills whoever he's up against
okay well that's all right then there's a new comic series coming out it's called vader target
vader yeah it's six issues and it's a character who was recently introduced so i think was also
from like way old continuity darth vader not darth vader but oh he's in it and they basically make this task force to kill darth vader that's pretty so they're all
probably gonna die oh yeah maybe there's one good han solo s character which will live on yeah nice
into other properties but you'll get maybe a scar and then it'll be back yeah that's right get a
scar get out of there now what kind of sweet jedi powers are you expecting from this game i think
it's going to be toned down a lot from Force Unleashed,
which was pull a Star Destroyer out of the sky,
shoot a hundred years of lightning all at once.
Yeah, right.
Save up your lightning.
Yeah.
I think it's going to be little things.
Yeah, right.
Well, you are a Padawan.
Padawan, that's right.
Also, there's a Jedi Master in it you run into,
and apparently it's not your conventional relationships or whatever,
because what I bet it is that Padawan's like,
why don't you teach me?
And she's like, I don't do this anymore.
I'm more of the world than you are.
And let me tell you, you came out of hiding,
and now that brought me out of hiding, and I'm not happy about it,
but I'll sacrifice myself for you at one point.
That seems quite conventional, if I'm honest with you.
I think a less conventional one would be, he'd be like,
hey, I'm a Jedi, and they'd be like, well, I'll teach you everything.
Here's some life hacks.
Here's some shortcuts.
This is how you do a flip.
Do a flip.
There we go.
There we go.
It looks like he does a wall run in the trailer.
Think we're going to get a wall run?
Well, if it's in the trailer.
Yeah.
Yes.
I mean, you can't put it in the trailer and then not have a wall run.
I just want a good Star Wars game.
That's all you want.
That's all I want.
What was the last good one?
There isn't one. There's got to be a good stylist game that's all i want what's the last good one there isn't one yeah there's gotta be a good one no there's heaps uh last my last one that i really
enjoyed was the jedi outcast series but there's a long time ago yeah there was but there's also
been like i know people love knights of the old republic a lot of people also like fallen order
not fallen order for some nation uh battlefront the original ones yep they're good and some people like the
new battlefront because they fixed it yeah they look good yeah but no i don't think there's been
we've talked about this before but like in the 90s and early 2000s there was like five a year
yeah and at least one of them was the best game that year yeah so or up there so you know i don't
know take some chances lucas film Arts. EA Arts. EA Arts.
EA Arts.
But yeah.
Remember when TIE Fighter was good?
What?
TIE Fighter was good.
I didn't expect a TIE Fighter to be any good.
No, it was good.
Didn't no one expect it to be good?
I don't remember before it came out.
Yeah.
I just remember it existing.
Well, that's true.
But I mean, you know, it was like, well, the TIE Fighter is the cannon fodder of the Star Wars universe.
How's that going to be good?
But that's what made it interesting.
Yeah, it made it interesting.
And then X-Wing was good.
But that was before? No, I think it was TIE Fighter first. interesting. And then X-Wing was good, but that was before?
No, I think it was TIE Fighter first.
I think it was X-Wing first.
Well, we'll find out, won't we?
Do you want to find out right now?
Yes.
Because if you don't do it right now, we'll get emails.
X-Wing came out in 1993.
In fact, people have already sent emails.
Despite us already.
So that came out in 1993 and TIE Fighter came out in, you're probably right, TIE Fighter
came out in 1994.
Damn it. You're not right. What are you, the guy you the guy but i'm probably right star wars well you are channeling
him aren't you yeah that's true yeah there you go any mistakes i make yes uh and and look
considering disney knows considering disney owns everything now any mistakes i make about any pop
culture property it's that i've been cursed basically is that true it's not my fault that's
not i guess it's not your fault. I'm blaming anyone but myself.
You know, it is interesting.
What's that?
Cameron Monaghan, who was playing the Jedi in this, is the Joker.
My mate.
We're mates on Twitter and real life.
We hang out all the time.
Nice.
We're like, we go get a slushie.
You get a slushie?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you don't go to 7-Eleven and get a Slurpee.
No.
You go to some weird off-brand convenience store, you get a slushie.
He doesn't want to be recognized, Mason.
At a 7-Eleven.
Yeah, because they're busier.
Yeah, right.
I guess that's probably true, right?
You don't understand.
So you go to a bad part of town,
you get a weird off-brand,
you get like a paprika-flavored slushie.
I love it.
Yeah.
Paprika and oatmeal.
Yeah, good.
I bet.
But he also plays the Joker,
Mark Hamill, Jedi, also the Joker.
Oh, yeah.
I wonder if that's a coincidence.
Probably.
But no, I think he's a good choice.
Okay.
Now, this is the big thing from the weekend, though.
As of so far, Star Wars Celebration goes on.
It lives on in our hearts.
Yes.
But it's still actually going right now as we speak.
Yes.
Star Wars Episode IX has a new trailer, first trailer.
It's called The Rise of Skywalker.
Interesting.
I did an 18-minute trailer breakdown. After I recorded it, I went, that was a mistake. 9 has a new trailer first trailer it's called the rise of skywalker interesting 18 minute trailer
breakdown after i recorded i went that was a mistake this is gonna take me a long time to
edit and it did oh yeah so i put two ads in it i'm like okay yeah took me long enough so i'm putting
two ads in it i mean you don't have a sponsor it's just two ads for just your life just my life
yeah hey these are my shoes they don don't match, as you can see.
And they're both left foot shoes.
Yeah, I got dressed in the dark.
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Okay, here we go.
Okay, so you've got 18 minutes of content on this trailer.
Yeah, so people can check that out.
Okay, where do we go first on this trailer?
I think we talk about...
I didn't really talk about general thoughts on it.
I just kind of broke it down.
What did you...
What do you think of it?
First of all, it's called The Rise of Skywalker.
What does that mean?
What does it mean?
But is it a good title?
I don't think it is.
It feels like it's a clunky...
Look...
Okay, so here's the thing.
To Ross. Until this the thing. To Ross.
Until this comes out.
To Ross.
Until this comes out.
Yeah.
And so the months and years until it comes, when's it coming out?
Christmas.
So the months until it comes out and then for a long time afterwards,
the debate is going to be, is this, was this movie made in earnest
or was this movie made to course correct episode eight?
Because it was made very late in the day.
Like it was two years of production.
They brought J.J. Abrams on pretty much after The Last Jedi had came out.
Like they'd fired the director or he left because he wasn't happy with the, they fired him.
Yeah, right.
And then so.
Trevorrow?
Trevorrow, yeah.
So they've only got two years to kind of make this happen.
So I get, so I, when I'm looking at this trailer,
I'm trying to put it through the lens of,
okay, well, it's the last one in the saga.
This is going to be very exciting.
What's the deal?
What's the plot?
Whatever it is.
But also part of me is like,
how much of this is course correction?
Yeah.
There's elements,
and I'm trying to look at it through both lenses
and not be swayed either way.
Yes.
But the fact that it's called The Rise of Skywalker,
to me that feels like fan service-y. Trying to look at it through both lenses and not be swayed either way. Yes. But the fact that it's called The Rise of Skywalker. Yeah.
That, to me, that feels like fan service-y.
You know how Luke Skywalker died?
Well, he's back, baby.
Don't worry about it.
He flipped out of a grave.
And you know how some characters in this were definitively proven not to be Skywalkers?
Well, maybe they are Skywalkers.
What do you think about that?
Yeah, I guess we'll only really know some of this to the
extent that this is a course correction i remember in the last movie kylo ren gave up his helmet
well it looks pretty cool so he's putting it back together you better believe that oh yeah
yeah is he do you reckon so do you think it might be in relation to the redemption of him
yeah let's talk about what it could mean i guess okay so he is a skywalker he's definitely a
skywalker technically and look and he went from being Ben Solo to Kylo Ren.
Maybe this is his last transition.
Maybe he's like,
well now I'm going to be Ben Skywalker.
Do you reckon he'll say that?
They'll be like,
the Emperor's like,
ha ha,
you can't be,
you'll be defeated,
Kylo Ren.
And he's like,
my name's Ben Skywalker.
That's right.
And they're like,
yeah.
Wait a minute,
you murdered your dad.
And it's me,
Luke Skywalker.
I'm back and I'm physically here. and look how many lightsabers I have.
I've got one in each hand and I've got a bunch just spinning around
because I'm that good at the Force.
They put the General Grievous arms on me.
That's right.
And I'm young again.
I'm young again.
But not young like I was in The Last Jedi, that projection.
I'm proper young again Harrison Ford's back
But we filmed him from the neck down
We didn't want to do it
We couldn't get him
But he's here too
We just filmed him
He was having lunch at the Chateau Marmont
And we took some photos of him
He's not young again
He's not young again
He's wearing a polo shirt
But he's back
No I don't know
Where were we?
I've lost the thread.
Okay, so it could be Kylo Ren.
Yeah, it could be Rey.
Rey could be a Skywalker.
Here's the thing, though.
Maybe Rey, maybe they call her Skywalker.
Yeah, it's like a mantle.
Maybe it's a mantle.
They're like, okay, well, because that's the thing.
I think a lot of the last couple of movies are about how the Jedi as a concept has failed.
They're a bunch of poo.
They're a bunch of poo.
They were meant to be the guardians of this universe.
They failed.
They slipped in their own poo.
So maybe this is like, well, the Jedi are no more,
but we're going to be Skywalkers now, and that's going to be better.
We've acknowledged that being goody-goody shoes yeah doesn't work yeah all the time and also you end up doing terrible things regardless
exactly so maybe maybe maybe a skywalker is a jedi yeah but it's like but you can acknowledge
that human failings are in there and that's that's how life works i feel like that that is well that
would continue the ryan johnson stuff in terms of anybody can be a jedi yeah right but i feel like that is, well, that would continue the Rian Johnson stuff in terms of anybody can be a Jedi.
Yeah, right.
But I feel like they're just going to be like, Ben Solo's got a son.
That son's, like, I feel like it's not going to be a metaphor.
It's the broom kid.
Yeah.
It's not going to be a metaphor or a title.
I think it's going to be a literal return of a Skywalker.
But, yeah, like it'll be Razor Skywalker or Ben comes back or whatever.
How many chances is that dude's getting, though?
So many chances
I mean Darth Vader got a lot of chances
But at least he had the decency to die
That's true
Because how would he have explained his way out of it?
Like you were there when the Death Star blew up the planet
Yeah but I didn't press the button
But you were there
You could have stopped him pressing the button
You could have stopped everyone's hearts in the room
You could have been like
Button's not working
Can't explain it I'm over here
Button's not working though Must be it i'm over here it's
buttons not working though must be a must be a fault in it i'm over here though i'm standing
right over here standing over here i'm not even looking at it i'm looking away
buttons not working though can't blow up the planet but i do something else
better set a partially worded email maybe let her go.
He didn't do any of that.
He didn't do that.
Again, we've talked about it before.
The only reason he came good is because the Emperor was going to shoot his son with electricity.
And then he changed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But anybody else in the galaxy who was being murdered, he would have done nothing.
He would have done nothing. He would have done literally.
It could have been a baby.
And he would have done nothing.
There were probably heaps of babies on that planet.
He's got lots of babies, that guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But so I guess he's not. He's killed him in their cribs. planet. He's killed lots of babies, that guy. Yeah. Yeah. But so I guess he's not.
He's killed them in their cribs.
Yeah.
He's got the lightsaber and just swizzled it around.
Like a stew.
In the baby carriage, exactly.
He's gross.
Yeah, he's gross.
Gross dude.
In the actual panel, and it was incredibly frustrating
because they bring out all the cast members.
Woo!
There's a lot of that.
Name a cast member.
Anthony Daniels.
Woo!
William December Williams. December Williams Rose Tico
Who's name I forget
We're angry
Daisy Ridley
John Boyega
Oscar Isaac
Everybody's good
They are all good in it
So they're all back
The guy who plays Chewbacca
Florgans
Turgentorlan
Whatever his name is
No it's Florganturgentorlan
And then They had Stephen Colbert He plays Chewbacca. Florgan Turgentorlan. Yeah. Whatever his name is. No, it's Florgan Turgentorlan.
And then they had Stephen Colbert.
Oh, wait. So Florgan Turgentorlan.
Because he was in Solo, right?
Yes.
So he's the new Chewbacca forever.
Yeah, he was the new Chewbacca.
He was the new Chewbacca in The Force Awakens.
He split it between him and...
Okay, right.
Anytime it's running or standing...
It's Florgan Turgentorlan.
It's Florgan Turgentorlan.
Okay.
I like that guy.
He's got a good Instagram.
He's fun.
All right.
But so they had Stephen Colbert moderate. It's Floygetoigentorland. Okay. I like that guy. He's got a good Instagram. He's fun. All right.
So they had Stephen Colbert moderate,
and he did a pretty funny kind of Star Wars-y inside baseball kind of intro.
And then it was like, well, what time period is it set?
And they're like, well, it's set after, but we can't really tell you.
Is your character the daughter of Lando?
Because there's a new character.
He's like, I can't really tell you. And it's like, I understand that you can't say anything,
but enough with this fucking mystery box shit you you you can pre-plan the questions yeah right so
every answer isn't just we don't know we can't tell you colbert i asked the question yes it
wasn't fan asked questions no it was steven colbert but again you can what can you tell us
yeah right just tell like i'm sick of this kind of like well well, is it or isn't it? Just don't bring it up then.
It's just fucking, it's just annoying.
But also I feel like people, if he didn't say that,
people on Twitter would be like, why didn't he ask him
if Ray is a Skywalker or not?
And I guess it builds the hype of like,
who's this person and who's that person?
They're damned if they do and they're damned if they don't.
Well, I say they're damned if they, whatever they did.
Whatever they did, stop it. Just don don't at least make it half half yeah we can ask a question that's interesting also none of
them were there were no i mean there was a bit of like what is it like to be on set and it's like i
love it it's a dream come true it's like family and it was it was real it was bittersweet to wrap
it up and you know bloody blah whatever again i like all these people, but it's like, who cares?
Who do you think did, was it like John Boyega and Oscar Isaac just like ruffling each other's hair and stuff?
Was it all?
It was a little bit of that, I think, yeah.
Okay, that's good, okay.
Because they're like, well, a Rose and Finn are a couple still,
and they're like, I don't know, we'll see.
And it's like, that's not even interesting.
Yeah.
You could just say yes or no for that one because it's no one cares yeah so
i don't know yeah so that kind of just it was an hour of like oh my god yeah right there's a lot
of is that out on youtube whatever if you want to if you want to watch it uh but there was some more
it's interviews they did afterwards with cast like one-on-one which i found way more interesting
okay because also there was on the red carpet i believe believe. He was, yeah. He talked to Daisy Ridley, I think.
I think he talked to most of them.
Yeah, very good.
From the images you've seen on his Instagram, yeah.
He is.
But in the trailer, we get Rey at the start doing a flip over
of a big old TIE fighter.
Doing a flip, the number one requirement.
Yeah, it's so good.
It looks like a flip and a twist.
It is a flip and a twist, yeah.
The Skywalker lightsaber is back.
Yes, it is.
Did you think it wasn't going to be back?
No, I thought it would be back. It's back, though. It's back, isn't it? She's never getting that Skywalker lightsaber is back. Yes, it is. Did you think it wasn't going to be back? No, I thought it would be back.
It's back, though.
It's back, isn't it?
She's never getting that staff lightsaber.
No.
She's not happening.
I've been saying it for years.
Unless it's in that TIE fighter.
Could be.
Yeah.
Do you think Kylo Ren's in that TIE fighter?
Yeah.
Yeah, he is.
I found it out using my skills.
Did you?
Did you ask somebody who knew?
No, you can see he's got the gloves.
I was going to say he looks like he's gloves.
So that's an interesting first.
That's a great first image.
Yeah.
Looks super cool.
Doesn't make a lot of sense.
Doesn't make a lot of sense.
Because he could shoot her.
But he doesn't.
So is it a training exercise?
Yeah, well, that's exactly.
Yeah.
Rise of Skywalker.
That's her.
Flips.
They're both Skywalker.
Yeah.
It seems kind of like, I don't know.
It's a very dangerous training exercise well
if she doesn't do the flip she's gonna die yeah she's gonna be smeared by a tie fighter she could
have ducked could have ducked he's not gonna hit the ground that's true yeah because then he'd be
splattered maybe she wants to cut through the his head maybe you can do a flip yeah man i wouldn't
do a flip holding one of those things i'd definitely cut my own head off if i was holding
a lightsaber and i could do a flip which which I can't, it wouldn't go well.
But that's what training's all about.
Yeah, you're right.
You know?
They just keep throwing TIE fighters at you until you can do that flip.
Until you can do that flip.
Okay, that makes sense.
Yeah, yeah.
So we got Lando's return.
Yep.
Looking very, what's his name?
Billy Dee Williams?
Well, that.
It looks like Billy Dee Williamss but it also looks like
uh childish gambino yeah it's that kind of costume yeah he's back on the falcon he finally
stole this ship back from a dead man he must love it yeah his mate's dead he gets his ship
that's like when you die get your car yeah because initially i had your car and you won it off me in
a weird card game that's very true dyson try hexagonal cards. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, what do you think of that?
Billy Dee Williams back.
Good.
Great.
Do you think he'll die?
Billy Dee Williams?
I mean, eventually.
I mean, he's 82, so yes.
Yeah, for sure.
But do you think he'll die in the movie?
Oh.
I don't think they'll kill another one.
No, I don't think they'll kill another one.
No, no.
Yeah, it's true.
Yeah.
But I think he'll definitively pass on the Millennium Falcon to
Someone?
To Rey, probably
Depends on what
I mean, she's a Skywalker
They should give it to Chewie
Yeah
Also, from the Force Awakens
The Last Jedi
That dude's an amazing pilot
He should always be a pilot
Remember when he flew it through the cavern of crystals?
Yeah, I remember
That's really difficult, probably
It's way better than Han Solo
He was a terrible pilot
You know what it was? You know what the Kessel Run probably was? he was a terrible pilot you know what it was you
know what the kessel run probably was it was probably i mean we saw it yeah no we saw it but
i think it was probably just it's just him putting his foot like foot to the floor accelerator and
then over on the side it's chewy navigating because again in solo he's like 190 years old
or whatever it was so he's been doing he's been doing a lot of flying. And there's that theory that like to Chewbacca, like humans are dogs.
Yeah, right.
Because they come and go.
He's had eight.
Han Solo is just his wayward puppy that keeps getting into trouble.
And he's like, God, stop it.
And then they get through the Kessel Run and Han Solo is like, I've done it.
I'm the king of this.
And Chewbacca's like, no i i saved everybody multiple times but it comes out as
you know they're like good one chewy i did do it yeah thanks yeah thanks for the confidence yeah
but that's this is the team up of lando and the love of his life if you recall oh yeah she's in
the ship she's in the ship and they're going to acknowledge that you'll probably say hello old
girl and you'll pat the console and people will will be like, I know that reference. Or there's some sort of explicit man-to-ship sex scene, maybe.
Yeah, he's a sexy man, isn't he, across time?
I agree.
Yeah.
Did you see the picture of the character who they said may or may not be his daughter?
No.
Yeah, it's called Jana or something.
Jana, interesting.
Okay.
Oh, speaking of.
Imagine a Star Wars character.
Speaking of the robot ship that Lando's in love with, Phoebe Waller-Bridge, there's a
new series of Fleabag out, I believe, which is her series.
I haven't watched that yet, but it's very good.
But also, apparently, she's doing a pass on the new James Bond script.
She's doing a rewrite of it.
That's interesting.
She's being brought in to do a rewrite.
Claire just watched Fleabag, and she's like,
you've got to watch this.
It's amazing.
So I will now, because I trust her judgment over yours.
Over mine?
Thank you.
Yeah, man.
Though she's watching a lot of RuPaul lately, and I don't like that show because, as I mentioned to you, it stresses me out.
Because they're so skilled?
They're so skilled because it's all the things that I can't do.
And it makes me like, if they were like, go on a quiz show, I'm like, I could probably get three out of a hundred.
So you live in fear that you'll be bundled up into a van and taken to the RuPaul's Drag Race studios.
Because they'll be like, lip sync, make a dress, do a dance.
I can't do any of that shit.
I would panic.
I would look ridiculous.
It makes me really nervous.
Well, look, if it's any consolation,
they ain't picking you, honey.
I mean, it's not.
It's not consolation.
So, James, why don't you just sashay
away and don't fuck it up yeah that's right whatever they say that show okay we're still
talking about this trailer here we go so carrie fish is back yes they've used a bunch of old
footage and repurposed it for new movies yes they say that it's seamless and you won't even notice
and all these scenes they wrote around them and you won't even notice when they show the back of her head and re-dub some dialogue or whatever.
Do you think we'll notice?
We will notice.
Yeah.
I probably won't notice.
So we will notice as in me?
As in the royal we.
The royal we will notice.
But me.
The queen will notice.
No, look, I mean, they're going to pull out all the stops for this one.
Yeah, definitely.
Money is no object to get this done.
Yeah.
Time will be an object. Time will be an object.
Time will be an object, yeah.
But I think they're going to test this
and I think it'll be pretty seamless.
They're going to test it then arrest it.
Test it and arrest it, exactly.
Then it's over for a few years.
Yes.
We can all rest from Star Wars.
I think, look, I'm sure if we want to nitpick it,
but I think this,
unless there is some production emergency or disaster,
this is going to be the best this kind of thing has ever looked.
Like a nuclear disaster?
Like a nuclear disaster, yeah.
I don't want that.
We'll be too busy foraging for cockroach sandwiches and gasoline.
We won't be worried about it.
Yeah.
Okay, or is the bread made of cockroaches?
Yeah, it's pretty much all cockroaches.
They're very versatile insects.
Interesting. Yeah. What else have we got? Peanut butter much all cockroaches. They're very versatile insects. Interesting.
Yeah.
What else have we got?
Peanut butter.
Cockroach butter.
I don't want that.
Well, it's going to be delicious.
Can I just have
regular peanut butter?
There's one jar left.
Can I have it?
All right.
It's smoother.
I'll eat the cockroaches.
Why does anybody have smooth?
I don't know.
There's no sense to me.
Yeah, right?
Gross.
Weekly Planet Action Item.
Let us know if you like
crunchy or smooth. Just tweet at us. Crunchy or smooth to me. Yeah, right? Gross. Weekly planet action item. Let us know if you like Crunchy or Smooth.
Just tweet at us.
Crunchy or Smooth.
That's right.
No other context.
No other context.
There's a couple of other big reveals towards the end of this trailer.
One of them being that Death Star is back.
Did you miss it?
Yes.
I mean, we just saw it in Rogue One,
and there was also a planet in the other one.
It's getting hot in here.
Do you want me to turn that air con off?
Yeah, let's turn the air con off.
Can he reach it without falling out of his chair?
Yes, he can.
Thank you.
You know what a better place for that air conditioning control holder would be?
On the table?
On the table.
Yeah, but this isn't going to be our table we're going to use.
All right, fine.
Thank you, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries air con.
All right.
Is there a Mr. Mitsubishi Heavy Industries?
What are you,ando yeah i've fallen in love with the air conditioner wouldn't you yeah i have already yeah there
is a mister and it's me oh no i'm very sorry sir i'll be on my way i didn't mean nothing by it
so the death star's back yep uh it's in it's in the bloody ocean it's gonna save my reputation
hey yeah hey yeah the death star's back sorry we're all falling in love with inanimate objects
it was gonna be in the force awakens initially yeah right it was concept art for a submerged
death star that they were going to explore and there was something in there they needed apparently
there's going to be like a macguffin that they're after maybe it's a jar of the emperor's piss that they can clone
him from or whatever yeah because he's not getting out of that chair much is he no maybe maybe the
clones in there yeah could be because i mean that you know that was the the original star
wars spin-off novels the the heir to the empire yep trilogy there we go what are they called
heir to the empire dark force rising the last command yeah people really like that you can do trilogy. Here we go. What are they called? The Empire, Dark Force Rising, The Last Command. Yeah.
People really like that you can do that.
Oh dear.
Again,
and also people are waiting for your magnum opus,
which is just you screaming all the,
It's coming.
All the Star Wars expanded universe titles
in front of a mirror.
You better believe it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But again,
the,
the,
the spinoff,
a lot of the spinoff canon
before it was made non-canon was,
well, the Emperor made clones of himself,
and then his four spirits went into the clones, and he's back, baby.
He's young and vital and sexy.
Yeah.
I don't remember if it was sexy.
It wasn't Head of the Empire.
It was the other one.
Yeah, yeah.
The comic series, whatever that is.
But, yeah, I know what you mean.
Yeah.
You're correct.
So I don't think they're going to do that, are they?
How else is it?
Well, here's the thing.
We don't even know if he's really back.
Well, I...
With a cackly laugh.
Yeah.
I think it's a decoy.
Like it's somebody else doing it.
Doing the laugh?
Doing the laugh.
But I think there's ways to fake...
Do you think it's Luke Skywalker?
Yes, I think it's Luke Skywalker.
Doing his Joker laugh.
The return of Skywalker is him doing the...
Yeah.
Yeah, but when that laugh happened in the trailer, I went, doing the yeah yeah but when that the laugh happened
in the trailer
I went what
did you
and then the title
came up
and I went what
so
right
but I think
I think if they
actually bring him back
which they're probably
gonna do
yes
I just
just don't
how do you think
do you think
they'll bring him back
in the way of
he's been pulling
the strings all along no I think I think he'd have to be resurrected because they'll bring him back in the way of he's been pulling the strings all along?
No, I think he'd have to be resurrected.
Because they really threw him into the middle of that Death Star.
He exploded.
Yeah, right.
But maybe his spirit still resides within it.
Because there is a way to do that.
Do you think he's like the Millennium Falcon?
Yes.
Do you think his spirit's embodied in the rest of the Death Star?
Yeah, that's right.
And he falls in love with the Millennium falcon computer wow okay that's heartbroken yeah
i understand no because there's in the comics there's like this helmet that's called the duke
moment and if you put it on yes then he overtakes your body he's like this old dark spirit okay and
then he pulls himself through time and then he puts the helmet on himself and he's back.
So there is absolute 100% precedent for bringing back someone through time.
But in the movies there isn't.
No, but in the comics.
But if they put the Death Star on the Emperor's body, on his head, he could wear like a big helmet.
Yeah, right.
Okay.
That sounds really good.
He could do it.
My ideal situation is that it's an impersonator okay like that it's somebody pretending to be the emperor okay to like freak everyone out and he's
pulling and he's it's one of the knights of rain or something like that okay because i think that's
more interesting than just being like and he's perfected the laugh before anything else well
you can fake that though i guess but the other thing is it could be he's had multiple contingency
plans i talk about this in my video, but in the Battlefront 2,
the storyline is when he dies, all these droids go out
and he's got a projection of his face in the helmet
and it tells the Empire to just destroy itself and everybody else.
Right.
It's just like fucking burn it down.
Huh.
So he could have set up a series of contingency plans
to keep himself kind of annoying people.
Like Sherlock Moriarty in Sherlock.
Yeah, okay, I get it.
Just like your favourite show. That sounds awful. Yeah, okay, I get it. Just like that, your favorite show.
That sounds awful though.
That's all awful, Mason.
I don't know why you thought it wasn't.
Okay, so that's your theory?
It's an impersonator?
Yeah.
Okay.
You don't like that?
You want him to be a clone or a spirit or a boogly ghost.
Could be a hologram.
Yes.
Like it could just be a message left by him.
Yeah, it could also be that.
Exactly.
Yeah. Anyway, we've got a video up this week about uh it's coming up this week about all some
different theories that that people have put forth about this oh very good i haven't recorded
yet mason but let me tell you yes it's mostly ghosts and clones that's what this movie should
have been called ghosts and clones do you think yes this is going to keep there's no way everyone's
going to be happy from no way everyone's going to
be happy from this it's either the trailer or from the movie the movie it's either going to be too
much of a course correction or why did you honor all the ride johnson crap that he did or whatever
yeah that's what people are going to say yeah and i feel like i'm probably going to fall into that
first category if any but then again maybe it'll be the best movie i like the new outfits poe
dameron looks like Nathan Drake now.
He does.
He's got a little necker scarf.
That's what I'm about.
Yeah, it's very good.
But they're all together apparently.
They're all doing adventures together.
That's what I like.
They haven't really had adventures together yet.
They're all having separate adventures.
We've got some C-3PO action.
Yeah, he's back.
On that trailer.
Yeah.
So that photo of him with the gun.
That must be real.
That's real, yeah.
Yeah.
The other thing is.
They programmed him to kill, finally.
Well, yeah, there's an evil C-3PO in the comics.
Yes.
But also, the new toy is BB-8 has a sidekick.
It's just one wheel with a head.
Okay, that's fine.
Like a bird head.
I like that a lot.
It's just so they can sell those little remote droids, obviously.
Yeah, absolutely it is.
But now we've got...
Now there's four droid sidekicks
minimum
and one of the droids
has another sidekick
good
I like it
I want him to have a sidekick too
this other one
yeah
they rolled him out on stage
and everyone's like
I guess
they didn't get a huge cheer
because it's just a little
a little man right
it's a little
tiny little box
it's like a foot high
yeah right
yeah it's literally a wheel
and a triangle
and that's it
okay
yeah because I mean BB-8 was the stuff remember when they wheeled out BB-8 and people were like It's like a foot high. Yeah, right. Yeah, it's literally a wheel and a triangle, and that's it. Okay.
Yeah.
Because, I mean, BB-8 was the start.
Remember when they wheeled out BB-8 and people were like,
how are they doing it? What?
What?
Yeah.
Well, JJ was like, it's probably magnets, and it was.
It was magnets in the end.
I like how that's a good enough explanation.
It's probably magnets.
There's definitely going to be magnets in there, isn't there?
Star Wars Episode IX, it's probably magnets.
It's probably magnets.
The Return of Skywalker.
It's two magnets rubbing together. They're the opposite ends of magnets yeah yeah that makes
sense anything else about this i mean we're going to come back to it every week forever yeah for
sure i'm cautiously optimistic but i have a lot like a lot of red flags in the race
for this for me but if it's bad it's fine because i really liked eight so yeah that's that's you
know what's the thing that's oh actually it's just something that's just occurred to me we see a
little golden oh that's hans metal from oh from episode four yeah okay cool yeah well that's
that's mystery solved they don't actually keep those.
They give them.
They're like ceremonial and then they go backstage and like, we actually need that because we've
got another medical ceremony.
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
So we've only got three.
Yeah.
Two.
That's why Chewie didn't get one.
Can I take a photo with this?
No.
We'll give you a certificate.
We'll photocopy.
Hang on.
Okay.
Okay.
We photocopy it.
We'll just scratch out Luke.
There you go.
There you go.
That's it. Cool. Nice. Well, let's do some other things then. Okay, let's do it. it. We'll just scratch out Luke and we'll put him on. There you go. There you go. That's it.
Cool.
Nice.
Well, let's do some other things then.
Okay, let's do it.
Did we talk about Hellboy?
We talked about Hellboy.
Did you forget already?
No, I didn't forget.
It's better than you'd think, but the third act is about as good as you'd think.
Bad.
All right.
I didn't mind it.
All right.
You know what it's time for?
What's it time for?
What are we reading?
Oh, what are we going to read?
I'm doing a thing.
What are we reading? Oh, what are we going to read? I'm doing a thing. Do you know what today is, Mason?
The return of the GOT bros.
Oh, GOT bros.
We're back.
Me and you.
Reluctantly.
Game of Thrones.
Six episodes left.
Last night, I just finished the last episode of the last season.
Okay.
I went, you know what?
It was like two weeks ago, and I'm i'm gonna watch every episode and then i went
wait a minute you've got a kid and you know a job and running a house and a business maybe just all
of those are in air quotes by the way i've got a kid and a job and a wife you know what i mean and
that's what i'm talking about it's a bit heavy industries yeah but so i'm like i'll just maybe
i'll just squeeze in the last two seasons yeah right and uh and then i'm like i'll probably finish this early
but i just finished it last night yeah right so i i barely i'm glad i didn't go all the way back
because i wouldn't i would not have made it at all it's interesting everybody went we've had two
years to yeah to catch up and everybody picked the last two weeks yeah that's how good the world
is at time management well like last time for the last season I managed to watch them all
yeah
but this time
not close
not even close
alright
yeah
so
are you going to watch it though
today
can you send it to me
I
yeah
I think I might have a
I don't know what method
I'm using this time
I gotta figure
because my brother
might actually have
a legal link
oh well
I actually went back
and bought a bunch of episodes
because I'm not buying Foxtel.
It's just not happening.
No, absolutely not.
But I bought them off Google Play.
In Australia, we can't get them on.
So in America, obviously, you've got HBO.
There's HBO Now and there's an app, I think,
and you can just watch it whenever you bloody like.
Over here, it's on Foxtel, which is...
Or you wait till it's finished
and then you can get them off Google or whatever.
Yes, exactly right.
All right.
Well, if I have a copy of it, I'll send it to you.
Thank you.
But if I don't have a copy... I'll just imagine what it's like and if all your
favorite game of thrones roundup episode at the end of the season will just be me imagining what
it was like how exciting ting ting ting ting that's my eyes yes i don't have any eyes anymore
i'll be your favorite character and i'm dead my balls have been
cut off what are you watching i'm the winner but now i'm dead as well everyone's dead my balls have
been cut off what are you watching uh i watched a couple episodes of ultraman which is the new
animated uh ultraman on on netflix and
it's pretty fun what'd you think of it it's good i like it pretty fun good yeah is it 3d 3d animation
yeah of sorts yes so it's 2d 3d blend something like that yeah is ultraman a man who's got a man
inside him or is he just look always look like an ultraman so so the original ultraman so i've
only watched a couple of episodes bear in mind i already know everything about ultraman but for
those who don't okay so explain if there's a man inside ultraman so the original Ultraman. So I've only watched a couple of episodes. Bear in mind, I already know everything about Ultraman. But for those who don't, explain if there's a man inside Ultraman.
So the original Ultraman was like, he was a guy in like a science.
I know.
You know how Japan's filled with science patrols?
Yes.
They're like super police, but they're also science police.
I know.
What's one of those?
Anyway, that guy, that guy like merged with a being from space and became Ultraman.
Who's like a giant giant ultra karate
man yeah right and in between then and now he's had he's the the the the invasion from space
aliens was stopped and so ultra man disappears but that guy still has like some ultra man powers
okay he's still like super tough and super strong yeah and so he has a kid and that kid inherits the
super strength and the superpowers but now the aliens are coming back so he has a kid, and that kid inherits the super strength and the superpowers,
but now the aliens are coming back,
so he's got to become the new Ultraman.
So it is a man in a suit.
It is.
All right, you're right in your assessment.
But in this one...
I'm the biggest fan.
Here's the thing.
I've only watched a couple of episodes,
so spoilers for first couple of episodes of Ultraman.
He hasn't become giant Ultraman yet,
but I think that's definitely on the cards. Let's say you've never seen any Ultraman. He hasn't become giant Ultraman yet. Okay.
But I think that's definitely on the cards. Let's say you've never seen any Ultraman.
Yes.
Not me, but someone else.
Could you go into this and watch it?
You absolutely could.
Like the first five minutes is just,
the first five minutes of what I just said,
but not told as well.
Yes.
Obviously.
You can just listen to what I said again and you get it.
So it's kind of like Battlestar Galactica
where they're like, there was a Battlestar Gal galactica but now it's back because that's how
the new season started they're like there were lots of battle stars yeah right because uh-huh
even though the the new season isn't actually tied to the original series but it was still
kind of like there was a history of the universe or whatever it's like that it's exactly like that
i knew it's exactly like your recap of battle star i've seen all of both of those things so i know okay great okay we both watch things haven't we both watch things and also
i've watched all of the new ultra man already because i'm a big fan yeah have you though
yeah what's going on who are you i'm the man who knows a lot about ultra okay good
all right okay oh no i'm falling down the stairs oh Oh, no. Who's going to be a recurring character?
But he's dead.
Yeah.
It's pretty fun.
It's like what I enjoy.
It's a little bit self-referential.
A bit Voltron?
Sort of.
He shows up on the scene and everybody's like, well, that's an Ultraman cosplayer, obviously.
Yeah.
Because Ultraman's gone.
Who's this guy?
Yeah.
And then he like flips a truck and they're like, maybe he is Ultraman.
Maybe it's Ultraman.
I don't know.
I mean, he's not big Ultraman yet.
Maybe one day he will be.
Does he have a motorbike?
No.
Yeah, I know.
But I just wanted to make sure that you knew he didn't have a motorbike.
Yeah, for sure.
What is his form of transportation if he has one?
He doesn't have one.
That's what I'm saying.
There's a lot of him superhero landing in places.
And I'm like, could have just got on the plane.
Yeah, right.
Because he can fly.
Just should have been like the science patrol truck will arrive. And then he'll just superhero land next to it. And I'm like, could have just been in the truck. Yeah, right. I'm honest with you. Because he can fly. Just should have been, like the science patrol truck will arrive,
and then he'll just superhero land next to it.
And I'm like, could have just been in the truck.
Yeah, sure.
Just driven in the truck.
Because he can fly?
He's a big jumps.
Yeah, big jumps.
He's a lot of big jumps.
A lot of people misinterpret that.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's time for Mason.
Wait, no, I don't know what it's time for.
Talk more about Ultraman.
Tell me more Ultraman facts that you know.
Didn't he fight Godzilla once? I don't know't know that yeah maybe he did or didn't that's what's
interesting about Ultraman he's fought a lot of giant robot monsters yeah that's certainly for
sure yeah yeah what's the voice cast like do you think what do you mean what it's in Ultraman it's
good yeah I know yeah they've gone with some good choices uh-huh what do you think about his school
friends yeah oh you know some better than others obviously that's absolutely right if I'm honest I know. Yeah. They've gone with some good choices. Uh-huh. What do you think about his school friends?
Yeah, you know, some better than others, obviously.
That's absolutely right, if I'm honest with you.
You nailed that.
Of course I did.
Yeah.
Because some of his school friends are just like weird goobers.
Yeah.
And some are kind of cool.
Okay, great.
All right.
Let's keep this moving.
Okay, let's move on.
The classic one was letters, oh letters.
We love you, some letters.
They're only a take away.
I know they're here right now.
We're going to do letters.
Side note, what have you been reading?
I said Game of Thrones.
That's what I'm going to read.
And I watched Game of Thrones.
What do you mean, does it count?
Whatever we want, Mason.
All right, fine.
I've been reading a bunch of comics.
There's a bunch of Star Wars wineshots at the moment that are really good.
They're up to Age of Rebellion.
Siobhan from Serious Issues sent us some comic books the other day.
She sent us Batman 1000 and...
Detective Comics 1000 and Action Comics 1000.
Yes.
The Nicola Scott cover variants.
That's right.
So I have not opened mine yet.
Okay, good.
But I won't.
Nice.
But I will read the digital version of that.
Very good.
But that was really cool.
It came from King's Comics as well.
In Sydney, yeah.
Yeah, she does the serious issues, doesn't she?
With the podcast with Andrew Evans.
That's right.
Very good.
I've been having trouble forming words this episode.
Have you noticed?
Yeah.
It's because you're distracted by the really good looking air conditioner.
Yeah, I know, right?
Yeah.
Get your eyes off it, Mason.
You creep.
Yoo-hoo.
All right. If you want to shoot an email to the show,
weeklyplanetbot at gmail.com.
If you want to shoot either of us, find us in public and let us know.
No, thank you.
I met a whole bunch of listeners this week.
Who have you got?
During Comedy Festival.
Yes.
I met Alan.
I met Sean.
I met Bernard, who was from the North Americas.
The North Americas.
Yeah, that's right.
Interesting.
I've also got an email from somebody who said that they stopped you in the street and they
apologized.
That was Alan.
Alan says, yeah.
Oh, he is, yeah.
And you, because I remember, because he was worried that you were angry.
But the thing is, you told me, you rang me directly afterwards.
You're like, fucking Alan just stopped me in the street.
Yeah, I did.
You're furious.
Alan.
Yeah.
I'm going to get him.
You're going to get him.
No, just to clarify, Alan, he does mean that. And I'm going to get you. And he's going to get you. I'm going to get you. Stop Mason whenever you want. He. Yeah. I'm going to get him. You're going to get it. No, just to clarify, Alan, he does mean that.
And I'm going to get you.
And he's going to get you.
I'm going to get you.
Stop Mason whenever you want.
He loves it.
He loves the attention.
I hate it.
And then I'm going to get you.
Yes, that's right.
Like I'm going to get Alan.
I'm going to get him.
All right.
Or you can hashtag Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter.
Here we go.
This is from Spud.
Do you want me to start or do you want to start?
Yeah, no, don't want to.
Don't tease us with, hey, this is something is something from spud hey do you want to do your
own let no i want to hear from spud okay so episode nine trailer looks good but that is the worst star
wars title i've ever heard can you rank the star wars titles from best to worst not quality of
films how the title relates to the film just how you react when hearing okay uh this might be one
of the worst but things grow on you like when i heard
attack of the clones a lot of people hated attack i still don't like the clones because it was
it's pulpy yeah it's attack of the clones yeah you know that's fun you know i think one of the
worst ones might be solo because it's just and the reason i say that okay is because all star
wars films oh my goodness because they kept it hidden for so long. And they're like, here's the title reveal.
Solo.
Wow.
Wow.
Incredible.
Yeah.
They've done it again.
Who cares?
Yeah, yeah.
You could have said that.
Everybody already thought that.
Okay, well, minus expectations then.
Okay.
We can do this in order.
Okay.
So, do you want to go order of movies or order of they came out or order of title numbers?
Order of title numbers.
Okay.
Phantom Menace.
I hate it.
It's not great.
No.
Yeah.
Towards the bottom.
Yes.
I'm going to put it at the bottom.
Yeah.
Let's not number rank them.
Okay.
Let's just do that.
Let's just say near the bottom, middle top.
Near the bottom.
Okay.
Attack of the Clones.
Don't like it.
Near the bottom.
Okay.
I'd put it in the middle.
I like the pulpiness of it. We're going to sit here until we come to a consensus. It's in the middle. Fine. Revenge of the Sith. Near the bottom. Okay, I'd put it in the middle. I like the pulpiness of it.
We're going to sit here until we come to a consensus.
Okay, it's in the middle, fine.
Revenge of the Sith I really like because it ties back to Return of the Jedi,
which was Revenge of the Jedi.
And it also, it just works.
I like that one a lot.
It just works.
A New Hope is fine.
Yeah, look, I enjoyed it a lot.
It wasn't originally.
When did they change it from just Star Wars to A New Hope out like a year after a year after something like that yeah okay
yeah it was i really like it just because i think it was called fart adventures that was the first
title for star wars well now that's kind of sullied a new hope because i'd really prefer
it was called star wars fart adventures no. No, no, just Fart Adventures. Just Fart Adventures.
Okay, right.
And then they changed it to Star Wars A New Hope. Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't really like A New Hope, again, because it's episode four.
Yep.
It tells you, if you're watching them in order, it makes sense.
But I like the fact that you don't watch them.
You watch them start with Star Wars and it's,
we're in the middle of an adventure.
I like the idea of that.
I agree.
We're in the middle of this pulpy adventure the idea of that that it's just we're in the middle
of this pulpy adventure
it's a good one
yeah
I really like
Empire Strikes Back
I think that's a good title
do you?
yes
that might also be
because the movie's good
and I've heard that
every day
since I was a kid
so maybe I'm just used to it
same with Return of the Jedi
I like that title a lot
do you like that title?
I like the title a lot
I don't love
The Force Awakens
neither do I
it's a bit generic-y yeah but i like the movie and also it it see i i like the why i put a new
hope probably at the top is because you don't have to know anything about the universe it's
just a new hope what kind of hope who's the hope is it a man is it a thing or is it an event that's
fair because if it was like return of the jedi you'd be like a what oh but jedi exactly is that
good or bad i don't know but like the force awakens again if it's a reboot look it's kind
of you know it's a sequel it's a reboot yeah if you're coming into this not knowing about star
wars somehow yeah then you'd be like what's the force what's the force what's it doing what's it
doing you know yeah i know that's fine i really like the last jed. But again, on its own, it wouldn't.
Those rules that you just said doesn't work.
But I like that.
And it's short and it's sharp and it's pithy.
It is pithy.
I think even if you hate that movie.
And who's the last Jedi?
It's a mystery.
That's right.
And also, during the production, they just went, it's Luke.
Ryan Johnson just went, yeah, it's Luke.
Luke's the last Jedi.
And then it turned out to also be him and somebody else in the movie, it turns out.
Because then I look at The Rise's like, it feels a lot.
It does, doesn't it? Yeah.
It's like you can find something shorter, like even rise of Skywalker or just Skywalker.
Yeah, Skywalker Ranch.
Yeah, Skywalker Ranch.
Skywalker Sound.
Skywalker Ranch dressing.
Yep.
I think they're going to bring back a bunch of Jedi ghosts.
They're going to be like, Obi-Wan's here.
Anakin's here. Kit Fisto is here. be like, Obi-Wan's here. Anakin's here.
Kit Fisto is here.
Would you be mad?
Dooku's here.
No, sorry, I've misphrased that.
How mad would you be if the finale is the Emperor's there
and then all the ghosts of the good guys from all the previous movies
come around and accost him?
Like, that's the finale.
That was one of the endings of Return of the Jedi initially.
Potentially, wow.
It was Obi-Wan.
I think it might have been some others,
but it was definitely the ghost of Obi-Wan helps out.
Can you imagine that?
Yes.
I kind of want it.
No.
This is why people would be so mad.
Rey and Kylo were there.
They're down for the count.
They're being force lightninged,
and then it's like, well, you've forgotten about it.
By those two magnets rubbing together.
Yes, exactly.
And then you hear there's darkness's there's there's darkness and there's like the music swells and it's so you know and it looks like
they're gonna be they're gonna be turned to a crisp and then you hear hello there you won't
get away this time yes i do cool yeah i mean magnets yes and then it's just they all just
force blue force goes floating around and just just shooting white just pouncing
at him oh it'd be so awful and he's like trying to swat away at them and he falls into a pit yeah
he's like oh i've forgotten about the power of the jedi oh no they've teamed up like a jedi oh
i love it the jedi have defeated me i love it so much. I guess this is the new hope for the Jedi. That's right. It's just Skywalkers.
And the other one is Rogue One, which I like.
I don't like a Star Wars story.
No, no.
But other than that.
I know there's also a Clone Wars movie, but I don't care.
Another tweet here.
Okay, I'm ready.
Metal Eugenio.
Metal Eugenio, okay.
What's more likely to show up in a Shang-Chi movie?
DH Jackie Chan or CGI Bruce Lee back from the grave.
I don't think they're going to do Bruce Lee
because he's not a Marvel icon.
There may have been a Bruce Lee.
He might have been in something.
I don't think so.
More likely Jackie Chan.
You?
If they have to pick one of them.
Yes. Yeah, DH Jackie Chan. Or just put likely Jackie Chan. You? If they have to pick one of them. Yes.
Yeah, D.H. Jackie Chan.
Or just put in Jackie Chan.
Yeah.
Or what's Jackie Chan's friend's name?
You know the guy who's in that show Martial Law?
Oh, Jerry Unfat?
No.
Another guy you meet.
Sam.
Sam Ohung.
Sam Ohung, yeah. Sam Ohung, that's my pick.
The whole brand was he did martial arts and he was good at it, but he was fat.
Like Steven Seagal.
Yes.
Except he's bad at it.
Exactly. Everybody should Google Steven Seagal martial arts and he was good at it but he was fat like steven seagal yes except he's bad at it everybody should google steven seagal martial arts demonstration make sure it's one of the
newer ones please yeah um you got a letter there i've got a letter here let's let's find out okay
i'm gonna wrap this up soon because i'm gonna call evan before too okay this is andrew this
is andrew fatita yeah he just says uh hey guys my name is drew and i'm emailing you from new york
city baby thank you uh would
bruce wayne have a social media guy if he was around in 2019 yes well he isn't around in 2019
yeah justice league that's right and other assorted he was around in 2019 in justice league
2017 yes exactly he would because he'd be like they'd have a whole lot of pictures of him on
boats and stuff well here's the thing so would he have a social media guy like to pretend he was
places yeah and would this person have to know he was batman yes if so would it be just alfred
yeah it'd be alfred it would absolutely just be alfred so just another job for alfred he's just
there you'd have to master twitter he's just there on the gram and he's just putting filters on like
like just just just bruce wine on a boat yeah like It'd be like a Dan Blitzerian Instagram feed.
Just him with like piles of money on a bed and a model and a machine gun or whatever.
Is he that?
Is Bruce, is the, okay, let's say.
2019 Bruce Wayne would be.
So if it's the Affleck Bruce Wayne.
Yeah.
Is he that guy?
No, he's not that one.
Or is he like, or is he a guy who's got like 2000 followers and he's, it's just like a business account.
I'd say it'd probably be more somewhere between that
and like a Mark Cuban kind of guy.
Yeah, right, okay, yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
He'd always be, you know, because also there'd be a lot of,
see, that's the thing.
I think this version of Bruce Wayne, it'd just be his team.
Yeah.
He would very rarely do a social media post, I think.
Sure, yeah.
Yeah, except every once in a while he'd just like,
there'd be a visible spotting of batman just beating somebody up on a rooftop like the news cameras would catch it
and then like two minutes later he's around the corner like tweeting uh like he'd only personally
tweet yeah like when to cover his tracks to cover his tracks he'd be like oh just he'd have a he'd
have like eating a lobster he'd have some prepared photos
of him eating a lobster on a yacht,
like in the Maldives or something like that.
He'd just be like, just having good fun here.
I love it.
Yeah.
I'm rich.
All right, we really got to wrap this up.
I was wrapping up.
About lighting this new studio.
Oh, I understand.
Okay, well, how about bloody this?
How about thanks everybody for listening?
Do you reckon I could step out and make the call
and you wrap up the show?
No, I'd derail very quickly. Hurry up then. Oh my God. Thanks everybody for listening do you reckon I could step out and make the call and you wrap up the show no I'd derail
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it's really great
Rob Collings
that's our mate
we've got some t-shirts
on tpublic.com
we've also got
theme music by The Brute and The Basilisk and Rackham.
Yes.
The themes are there.
And that's the whole show, I think.
The whole show.
What's next week?
I don't remember.
What's out this week?
I can't remember.
Probably Star Wars news next week.
Yeah, I don't know, man.
Even more.
Because Avengers Endgame soon and stuff as well.
Yeah, nice.
Also, you've got that commentary.
I really have to call Evan before.
Okay, cool.
Okay.
Thanks, everyone, for listening.
Really appreciate it. Grab that gem, you guys. We'll see you next week. And goodbye. Bye. I don't have to call Evan before 2. Okay, cool. Okay, thanks everyone for listening. Really appreciate it.
Grab that gem, you guys.
We'll see you next week.
And goodbye.
Bye.
I don't have time for this, mate.
I have to call Evan.
It's so close to 2.
What's Evan doing at 2 o'clock?
He says he's got another...
Evan's the one who does
for everybody who doesn't know.
He does...
Stupid old studio.
He's the man himself.
He's a man of every trade,
which is why I'm calling him
to be like,
I don't know anything
about lighting.
Please help me.
What's he doing at 2? I don't know. Probably something important. So is why I'm calling him to be like, I don't know anything about lighting. Please help me. What's he doing it to?
I don't know.
Probably something important.
So, yeah, I'm really excited to call him.
But I don't have time for this, Mason.
Oh, my God.
Can I listen in on the call?
Of course you can.
Thank you.
Let's call him now.
Okay.
I'll leave it on air.
Okay.
This is very exciting.
Very exciting.
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FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly
game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret,
Istanbul to Paris and London.
One woman has a secret,
the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost.
FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss,
is now streaming on Disney+.