The Weekly Planet - 29 Marvel Movies We Want To See
Episode Date: April 14, 2014This week James and Mason discuss some Marvel story arcs we want to see adapted into film.Also we look at The Sinister Six movie, He-man's return a new Transformers trilogy and we clarify the dis...appearence of the Mr Sunday Movies youtube channel! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome back everyone to another episode of the Weekly Planet, official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com.
My name is James, junior editor at that website. With me as always is my co-host, Nick Maso Mason.
Hello friends and listeners.
What a day it's been for us. Yeah. We're real hungover, both of us. We are. Nick Maso Mason and you who carries it. Okay. And I'm mostly normal and I'm coasting through but now I'm going to
really coast through this one.
Okay, okay.
Well, we should get straight into it.
Before we do, Mason,
I just want to clarify something
with my YouTube account.
Yep.
As you're aware,
I woke up this morning
super hungover
and a few people
have sent me messages like,
Hey, a little bit fragile.
Hey, your YouTube account
has been taken down.
I'm like,
Oh, it's way too early
and I'm too high
to deal with this
for all I'm sure
you were like
oh just let YouTube
have it
whatever
but what if
things happen
I mean unless
it's up by now
it might very well
be by the time
this goes out
but let's check
every 30 seconds
okay
there'll be a 30 second
pause during
every 30 seconds
during this episode
there'll be a brief
silence
in fact it'll be more
like every 15 seconds
because I'm going to
check as well
absolutely yeah yeah that'll work great but uh i think it's something to do with
i've made a captain america easter egg video which has done very well it's got like something like
50 something thousand now to clarify that's you pointing out all the easter eggs yes quotation
marks the secret funny that's right not you making some sort of captain america easter egg because
easter is coming that's right yeah That was going to be my next video.
Yeah.
But now I can't because I've been screwed.
But basically, towards the end of that video,
for anyone who's seen it,
I basically then start naming some things
that are clearly not in the movie.
Jokes, you might.
Yeah, jokes, exactly.
And some people did not agree with that, I think.
And I think what's happened is
they've flagged the video as inappropriate or whatever.
Because it said scams and spam
yeah that's right
but you did attempt
to sell some like
like
male invigorating
you know
kind of
I did
chemicals there
supplements
supplements
sure
male enhancement supplements
yeah that's right
so that's been
that's been
all taken down
so hopefully
it'll come back up soon
because I've filed an appeal
or whatever
but there's a good chance
even if it does come up
all my stuff's white
right
so you know
you still have them right
yeah I've got them all
but you know
I cannot be bothered
starting another YouTube account
to be honest
but you know
I guess I might have to
but you know
the most annoying thing was
I was really on a roll this week
I hit 10,000 subscribers
congratulations
thank you very much
wow
I mean there's no evidence of that now no i got way to lie to us i got uh 600 subscribers just this week
massive like it was like the biggest jump i've ever had and then crashed i'll be brought down
well but hey it is what it is this is like the global financial crisis of this podcast in many
ways it is yeah yeah yeah hopefully we can get bailed out yeah that's right what i was thinking though if it's not back and i guess if people want to help they
could probably twitter at youtube because you should have a twitter account right it's probably
at youtube yeah so do you want to like the guy who got in really early and just got at youtube
because he's like this doesn't be fun what's a fun thing that you at youtube and he's going to get
thousands of angry tweets that's it exactly
five angry tweets
five angry tweets
yeah
two of which are from us
well two from me
none from you
yeah I got no stake in this
so yeah I guess
if you want to reach out
to Twitter
and be like
oh YouTube on Twitter
what's the deal with this
you can
but check if it's up first
if you do that
or if you flagged it
as inappropriate
email it to us
tell us why
because I would be
very interested to know
yeah yeah sure
but hey
so there you go
that's the news
for this week Mason
wait is there any other news
oh there's a lot of news
oh great I love news
that's right
I'm really hung over
so you know
it's gonna be a rough one
yeah it is
sure
alright
I want to talk
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. though Mason
my voice has recovered
it was touch and go
for a second
I know I thought
this was really good
I don't know
what was gonna happen
I guess you'd write
everything down
then I'd read it out.
We'd do it like that.
Stephen Hawking voice box.
Oh, yeah.
Didn't even think of that.
You think of everything.
I do.
Yeah.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. this week, though, Mason.
You obviously did not watch it.
I did not watch it.
Well, I've got to say, and I'm not the only one who's been saying this,
what an amazing episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Are people saying that?
People are saying that.
Are you saying that?
I'm saying that also.
Amazing. Amazing. By comparison to other episodes of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. or comparison to something that is good? of shield are people saying that people are saying that are you saying i'm saying that also amazing
amazing by comparison to other episodes of agents of shield or comparison to something that is good
both wow okay but maybe it's just that it hasn't been a great show this has really been uh you know
probably a defining moment this is the fantastic four two series now i am going to spoil this do
you mind if i spoil it no go ahead how much time do you need to spoil it two minutes yeah sure
skip ahead two minutes guys if you don't want to be yeah. Do you mind if I spoil it? No, go ahead. How much time do you need to spoil it? Two minutes? Yeah, sure. Skip ahead two minutes, guys, if you don't want to be spoiled.
So basically what happened is it's the follow-up to the Hydra twist in Captain America 2.
Spoiler for that as well, I guess.
Yeah, maybe...
Yeah.
Let's go back.
No, it's fine.
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, and basically it turns out that there was a traitor on the team the whole time.
Was it Fitz or Simmons?
Do you want to have...
It's actually Jake Chisel.
Is it really?
Yeah, yeah.
Huh.
And they're going to replace him, it looks like, with another guy who's like a black
version of Jake Chisel.
Huh.
So, you know.
Do you think he knew that was coming?
Or do you think he was surprised?
P.S. you're fired.
Although, does he die in the episode?
Is he dead now?
And they don't know that he's there because Bill Paxton
who was in it
yeah
it's said that he's
the TV version
of Robert Redford
that's right exactly
they say that he's
it's a really good way
to put it
that he's the
you know the guy
who's behind everything
okay
you know they had a
villain for this
whole season
great
Clairvoyant
that was the one
oh I see right
yeah yeah
and because Jake Chisel
was his protege
but I think it's going
to turn out that
maybe Jake Chisel
comes good before he dies
he's probably been
mind controlled
sure
we've all been
mind controlled
from time to time
it's not uncommon
we were mind controlled
to drink all that
alcohol last night
that's right
so I think
and look I have
actually been saying
I'm glad I've been
saying this after
the past few weeks
I'm going like
you know what
it's getting a little
bit better
so I'm glad you know that what it's getting a little bit better. I'm so glad you
know that.
Okay I understand
that.
That's fine.
Yeah.
Are we seeing any
more superheroes or
villains in the show?
Mason come on baby
steps.
Let's not introduce
any original Marvel
content to the series.
Let's have them just
chase artifacts still.
Are they still chasing
artifacts?
I don't know what
they're chasing.
I think they're going
to be a bit of
artifact chasing this
week so yeah. I think if you've gone be a bit of artifact chasing this week. So, yeah.
I think if you've gone out, maybe jump back on board just for that episode.
Okay.
And the one after and see what happens.
Has Sif made an appearance yet?
Yes.
That was all right.
That was an all right episode.
Great.
They brought in our Lorelei.
Did she do any action-y stuff?
Yep.
Or did she just sift around?
Sift around.
Did she give someone Sif, at least?
She did.
Which is her special move.
Yes.
Great.
No, that was not a bad episode either
so yeah
you know
I think it might
be coming into its own
fine let's give it
another chance
alright I'm back
on board
alright then
well look Mason
speaking of giving
things another chance
yes
is that an actual
legitimate link
or are you just
gonna
well let's see
it's tenuous
I hope nobody notices
it's tenuous at best
okay
but the amazing
Spider-Man 2
it's out this week in a lot of regions of the world, including Australia.
Yep.
I'm actually going to see it tomorrow.
I've got an advanced screening, but I can only get one.
And if one of us had to do it, well, you know, I'm doing it.
I can't retain any knowledge or memories, so it's probably best that you do it.
So, yeah.
That being said, if my YouTube account's up, I'll put that review up.
If not, I guess I'll just watch it for my own personal enjoyment.
But... They could be bothered. Because that's it. If not, I guess I'll just watch it for my own personal enjoyment. But...
They could be bothered.
Because that's it.
The reviews at the moment are mixed for this.
Mixed to positive, I should say.
But leading on from that...
Give me a quote.
Give me a quote.
A mixed to positive quote.
It's not bad.
I enjoyed a spectacle.
A lot of villains.
Peter Parker.
What a guy.
And that's Stanley's review?
Yes.
Great.
I think I'm in this one
so yeah
basically though
spinning off from that
we're getting the
Venom and Sinister 6 movies
and they're going to be
coming before
Spider-Man 4
which I think was
originally due out
2018
something like that
which wasn't going to
have Mark Webber's
director and
Andrew Garfield
is not signed on
or Tobey Maguire
neither of them
are signed on.
Huh, there you go.
I'd love it if they just made a Spider-Man 4
to the Sam Raimi universe.
Just jump back to that.
Just jump back, that would be fantastic.
But, uh, so, uh, yeah.
Or they crossed over.
Ah, you know what?
I saw an article on that.
There's a guy on comicbookmovie.com
who's named Psycho Jackie or something like that.
He writes these insane articles.
Is it Jackie O'Haley?
That's him, yeah.
Great.
I can't remember his actual name on the thing,
but he's very well known in the comic book movie community.
But he just writes these weird crossover kind of movies
that he wants to see and ideas
and like these crazy theories for movies and all that.
And they're great.
He's really, really good.
But one of them he said he wants to see
the two Spider-Man universes combined.
And I would absolutely want to see that. Garfield going against mcguire yep head to head head to head yeah
mopey versus slightly less mopey flat hair versus big hair jameson versus jameson scuffle is there
a jameson in no i don't think i'll get to it i don't think there is in the second one yeah they'll
get there yeah it's hard to recast though it's like the Joker isn't it yeah once you've found perfection
yeah
that's it
but anyway
maybe he could be the one
constant in both universes
oh yeah
he's the dimensional crux
like they touch him
at the same time
and then they're pulled into it
yeah exactly
the same dimension
yes
basically yeah
Venom and Sinister Six movies
they've been confirmed as coming
the Sinister Six movie though
is going to be directed
they say
by Drew
Goddard and he did
The Cabin in the
Woods.
You familiar with
that movie?
Yes.
Okay.
He also wrote
Cloverfield I think
or was one of the
writers on Cloverfield
which was a movie.
It sure was.
Yeah.
I enjoyed Cloverfield.
I'm okay with it.
Remember people
thought that was a
Voltron movie?
They're like it's a
Voltron movie because
there's a Voltron toy
on the shelf.
It's like if there's
a Voltron toy on the
shelf that would be
weird that it would
be a Voltron movie.
It would be very
odd wouldn't it? Yeah exactly. So yeah. It's a Voltron toy on the shelf that would be weird that it would be a Voltron movie it would be very odd wouldn't it
yeah exactly
so yeah
it's a Voltron universe
where Voltron is both
fictional and real
yeah that's it
so um
yeah but I think
he's a good choice
have you seen
The Cabin in the Woods
yes I really
enjoyed that
you know what though
not everybody
is on board with that
I showed a friend of mine
who I thought
would really enjoy it
and he's like
it's really cliche
you just showed him
the DVD card though
yeah I was like
what do you think of this
look at this
you can rest anything you want on it look I'm resting a coffee cup on it enjoyed it. And he's like, it's really cliche. You just showed him the DVD card though. Look at this!
You can rest anything you want on it. Look, I'm resting a coffee cup on it. He was not
impressed. But he was like,
yeah, you know what, it was a bit cliched and it
took a weird turn or whatever. I'm like, but that's
the point. Yeah, it had
cliched elements to
draw you away from the fact
that it was then going to defy all the genres of that.
Exactly. Yeah, all the genres of that. Exactly.
Yeah, all the conventions of that genre.
Like, spoiler alert, he enjoyed the bit where Chris Hemsworth jumped into a force field and plummeted to his death.
But that was the only bit that he enjoyed.
Right.
And I was like, I don't know.
So that's why I think that movie didn't do well. Was your friend Liam Hemsworth?
That's right.
Do you think it was some sort of familial dispute?
And he was like, well, I enjoyed the part where my brother died.
So yeah, great choice though though, for Citizen Six.
But Andrew Garfield, you're familiar with Andrew Garfield?
Yes.
The rich man's Tobey Maguire, they say.
Oh, sure.
He said in an interview that they've kind of mapped it out like the Avengers with villains.
I don't know what that means.
No, I think it's just...
No, if they have mapped it out like that, it'd just be a case of...
No, it'd just be we grab a couple from the Spider-Man films.
Yeah.
And then they come together like an unlikely motley crew.
Sure.
And they pull off a thing.
Yeah, and they pull off a thing.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm sure there's redemption involved, though.
Nah.
You don't think so?
I don't want redemption.
That's what's going to happen, though.
Because otherwise people aren't going to be on board
with watching six villains, like, I don't know,
go into the New York subway and, like, pumpkin bomb oh yeah good point people are like that has to be redeeming
elements to it i always find that the spider-man villains largely are kind of they're more they're
more fun yeah like they they're more i always see i i guess i always see them as the kind of like
80s 90s villains yeah where they don't there was a there was a clear delineation i
think at a certain point villains started like murdering the hero's girlfriend and stuffing
them in fridges and stuff like that but before that it was just like crazy jewel heists all the
time you know like the the shocker is going yeah the shock is always stealing doing a crazy jewel
heist and whatever yeah um and that that's i guess how I picture all the Spider-Man villains still
there was a
there was a
a story like a while ago
a few years ago
called Secret War
ah
I want to talk about that later
but yeah
okay yeah
well basically
the S.H.I.E.L.D. accountants
had a look
look at all the villains
and went okay
well here's your
here's a B-list villain
like a D-list villain
like Killer Shrike
yeah
who's got a battle suit
that enables him to
defy gravity
and shoot lasers
out of his hands
and it gives him
superhuman strength
or whatever
that would have cost him
millions of dollars
and then he just goes
and robs banks
and he gets like 20 grand
when he robs a bank
why did he do that?
okay
and then they realise
well somebody else
is funding all these villains
so it must be terrorism
oh okay
so you know
that's cool
yeah yeah
and so they
and it turned out spoiler alert it was
dr dude it was latveria that makes sense yeah exactly he's a real prick that he's a real prick
what's that spider-man comic where he makes spider-man steal a jewel that's one that's my
favorite that's what do you want to you know what let's talk about that later let's talk about that
later okay yeah yeah we will come back to that because i remember you telling me that and going
that is amazing and i still haven't read it but so yeah I guess
that's okay that
they're making this
movie
yeah so anyway I
feel that's yeah I
like an 80s 90s
villain just having
fun making a crazy
duel heist
the flash villains
the rogues
they're all kind of
they're crazy duel
heists as well
did you say rogues
or rose
rogues
so I was about to
go weather wizard
every rose has its
thorns yeah so like weather wizard and like the top and Rogues or Rose? Rogues. Ah. So. I was about to go. Weather Wizard. Every rose has its thorn.
Yeah.
So like Weather Wizard and like The Top and you know Mirror Master.
Mark Hamill.
All these guys.
Yeah.
All these silly.
All these silly ones.
Yeah.
The Trickster.
He's got a trickster.
The Trickster.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He does have a lot of silly villains.
Yeah.
I guess that'll be more fun.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I want a fun Sinister Six film.
Sure.
Ocean's Eleven style.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well look I think with a director like Drew Goddard behind it you might fun Sinister Six film. Sure. Ocean's Eleven style. Yeah, yeah. Well, look, I think
with a director like
Drew Goddard behind it,
you might very well
get that, Mason.
Better.
I'm watching you, Goddard.
Now, Jeff Wadlow,
he directed Kick-Ass 2,
which you thought was okay.
Thumbs down.
Okay.
And he's said to be
directing the X-Force movie
when they get around
to making that.
Okay, cool.
It's said that he's rumoured
to be on board to write and direct the He-Force movie when they get around to making that. Okay, cool. It's said that he's rumoured to be on board
to write and direct
the He-Man movie.
Hello.
Yeah.
What do you think of that?
Yes.
Sure.
I don't know.
Again, it's been a long time
since I've seen
the last Master of the Universe film.
What a movie.
But that's got to be...
It'd have to be
something special
to defeat that.
Yeah, well,
look, that movie came out in 1987.
Actually, my video, which I made for this week,
which I cannot put online.
Yep.
I talk about this.
Now put it on metacafe.com.
That's not a bad idea.
Put it on Vimeo.
Make it HD.
Ah, super crisp.
It's for dickheads, though.
Just have a lot of real attractive young people
running through a field of flowers in HD. just real and i have some indie music behind it get jose gonzalez to put some to put
some acoustic you know some some poignant acoustic guitar behind it'll be really great i think you
found a new direction for my creative outlet i think you've done it there twee that's you
it's you mate so yeah like that movie which came out in 87 that was one of the first kind of action movies
that I saw
because we had a copy of it
that I used to watch
in the 90s
again and again
first of all
Skeletor from that
played by Frank
Langella
who's in Robot and Frank
and he's in
Perry White
and Superman Returns
he's Skeletor
yeah
but that was like
the first villain
that I ever saw
which like truly
terrified me
this horrible
horrific man.
And I just remember it being really funny and action-packed and whatever.
Because I loved He-Man at the time.
Do you think it still is?
No, not at all.
No, absolutely.
Don't go back.
It's not good at all.
Don't do it.
But that was a really formative move for me.
Because even then when I saw Darth Vader, what was that?
Don't know.
You just did a weird twitch.
Are you okay?
Yeah.
Okay.
It's been a long night.
I'm sure it has.
But yeah, even when I saw Darth Vader, I was like, he's nowhere nearly as terrifying as a live action skeleton.
Yes, exactly.
So, you know.
But anyway, yeah, this movie though is going to not make the same mistakes as the last
one where they're not going to bring them into the real world.
Right.
They're going to keep it in a turn out.
Okay, cool.
Which is the way you should do it.
Yes.
If you had to cast
He-Man
and you couldn't pick
Chris Hemsworth
who would you pick
as He-Man
ah
The Rock
in a weird blonde
Bob wig
yes
absolutely
ah
I don't know
who's left
what about Jason
Mimola
ok he might look
good as a blonde
um
Channing Tatum
yeah yeah
not a worker I guess
is he too brick-headed?
Isn't He-Man very brick-headed?
He's very brick-headed.
Okay, excellent choice, Lee.
Good.
So yeah, there you go.
Here's some more exciting news.
I'm ready.
Sequel news.
Did you see the Karate Kid remake with Willow Smith?
No, that was the next Karate Kid.
Okay, then no.
I didn't.
You didn't see the Willow Smith remake?
Nope.
Jaden Smith remake?
Jaden Smith remake, yes.
Remember what it was?
That's getting a sequel with Jaden Smith.
He's back.
In pog form.
No, I don't know.
No, I'm not going to say that.
Why would I say it?
Sweet Simpsons reference.
Yeah, I've got no interest in that.
You know what?
That first movie is not a good movie.
Make no mistake.
But Jackie Chan in that movie puts in an amazing performance.
I think one of his all-time best.
There's a scene where he gets real emotional and he breaks down and he cries
and he's really good in it
but there's also another scene
where he beats up 20 kids
and you can find it
on YouTube.
Go and check it out.
Excellent.
So he gets a decently
choreographed fight sequence
in that.
He's beating up children.
Yes, that's right.
It's really, really good
but that's not a good movie
and I think what they're
trying to do is
because After Earth tanked badly. We haven't seen that have we? It's probably why it tanked. Yes, that's not a good movie and i think what they're trying to do is because after earth tanked yep badly we haven't seen that have we um i think probably why tanked yes that's right
because we see a movie on average like 27 million times each that's it yeah um uh i think this is
the studio's way to kind of like try and make him a star a legitimate star uh-huh by bringing him
back to an established franchise with a semi successful movie
to a character
that they know
worked for him
right
but he's
little
Jaden Smith
with
braids or whatever
looks very different
than 17 year old
Jaden Smith
smug face
saying dumb things
on Twitter
Jaden Smith
right
have you read any
of Jaden Smith's
Twitters
I see a highlight
every once in a while
I mean I know
he's 17 but shut the fuck up highlight every once in a while. I mean, I know he's 17,
but shut the fuck up.
Like, he's just a lunatic.
Right.
And maybe the bigwigs
at Hollywood
have got to come after me, Mason.
But my YouTube channel's down.
What are they going to do?
What else can they take from me?
Exactly.
But you know what?
I shouldn't pay out of it
because he's just a kid, really.
If I had my mom when I was 17,
my God,
you knew me when I was 17.
I was not great, was I?
You were a monster.
All right.
I would have liked to see you beat up by Jackie Chan when you were 17.
I'll tell you what.
Michael Bay has confirmed that Transformers 4 is the start of a new trilogy.
He may not direct the entire trilogy, but he probably will because he's an egotistical prick.
So, yeah.
I mean, I think that was already kind of known
but now it's confirmed.
Okay.
What do you think?
Kids got movies
they gotta see.
Sure.
I think there's a bug
in front of me.
That was really loud.
Was that satisfying?
I don't think I got it.
Well.
He'll be back
and I'll be ready.
So what were you saying?
Kids gotta see movies.
Sure.
Kids movies, you know.
Yeah.
With the transforming and that.
That's it
Love a good transformation
It is what it is
Yeah it is
It's fine
Yeah who cares
Star Wars Mason
Is going to start shooting
Soon
Or has started shooting
Who cares
But
They're gonna do
A four week shoot
In Abu Dhabi
Which I assume
Is gonna be Tatooine
Because apparently
They're rebuilding
I'm assuming
They're gonna use
The old Sex and the City 2 sets, right?
That's what's going to happen?
That movie is so offensive.
I don't want to get into it.
No, don't get into it again.
But basically, this is another thing I put on my video, which I'm going to talk about now.
Do we need to see...
You know what you're going to have to do from this point is just narrate what is in each of your videos.
That's right.
Because you can't show them.
No, I can't. You can't just go's right. Because you can't show them. No, you can't.
You can't just go to them,
so you're going to have to say,
okay, and then I put a funny picture
of Robert Downey Jr.,
but he's got a chicken on his head.
You know?
And it could be for the blind as well.
Great.
Yeah.
You're a hero.
Yeah, I am.
Don't you think that Tatooine's a bit played out now?
It's in every movie except Empire Strikes Back.
And why do people keep going back to this planet?
Plus, everybody who's ever been there is dead or left.
That's true, or eaten by a Sarlacc monster man.
Yes, that's right.
I don't know, I guess it's a nice...
Throwback?
Yeah, it's a throwback.
It's a nice anchor to the series.
You can always
recognise that planet
I guess
sure
yeah yeah
I think Luke
goes back and lives
in Obi-Wan's hut
for a bit
or Matt that might be
in the Shadows of the Empire
book
but they're always
going back in the
expanded universe
for whatever
contrived reason
but you know
it's got a cool
little space bar
maybe somebody
could blow it up
yeah sure
that would be
you know
just clean house
just done so yeah just done
so yeah I guess
that's okay or not
did we get the
Mos Eisley spaceport
in Phantom Menace
or any of those other
I think we got
bits and pieces of it
okay
they go there
they go there
in Phantom Menace
that's Mos Eisley
would you watch
a heist movie
where all the guys
they meet in the
Mos Eisley spaceport
the Sinister Six
yeah Sinister Six style
and they go style and they
go out and they do a heist absolutely they do a death star heist during the events of new hope i
want to see movies set within that time period yeah absolutely because there are like side calls
and stuff yeah yeah the splinter of the mind's eye happened in between yep and you hope and
empire strange back maybe yep i think that i think you're right. My favourite Star Wars book,
and you know I've read them all.
Yeah, I love them.
Shadows of the Empire
is set between Empire Strikes Back
and Return of the Jedi.
Right.
That book in the mid-90s
came out to massive fanfare.
That was kind of like, they say,
the testing ground to see
whether new Star Wars films were viable.
Right, yeah.
They released a soundtrack for it
and they introduced new villains and whatever.
Han Solo was frozen
they introduced a guy
called Dash Render
who is exactly like
Han Solo
and conveniently killed
at the end of the film
but I think he comes back
and not film in the book
I think he comes back
at some point
or whatever
so I would love to see
a Shadows of the Empire movie
you couldn't do it
because Luke's heavily
featured in it
and whatever
I think my Death Star
heist idea is fantastic
now that I've just thought about it
I don't want to say
my idea has gone bad
that is a great idea
but I mean
the Death Star's a big place
sure
all sorts of stuff
could have been happening
many things
maybe that's already happened
maybe there's already a
there might be
a novel or whatever
expanded universe
a novella
a graphic novel
correct
yeah yeah sure
alright
if not I've got dibs on it
you've got dibs on
that particular storyline of the Star Wars universe yeah no matter who does it I get dibs on it you've got dibs on that particular storyline
of the Star Wars universe
yeah no matter who does it
I get some royalties from that
okay done
great
yeah I like that
you're a good guy Mason
thank you
you're alright
alright Mason
that's pretty much the news
for this week
love it
oh so Guy Ritchie's doing
a King Arthur reboot thing
who cares
yep
okay
oh wait do you think
it'll have attitude
do you think it'll be
Plunkett and McClane style
oh I hope so.
Where it's back in the old timey times, but everybody's got, like, 90s bobber swagger kind of thing.
Everybody's headbutting everybody else.
Oh, yeah.
Yep, nice.
Oh, I hope so.
But did you see the King Arthur 2004 one with Clive Owen?
No.
Yeah.
It wasn't very good.
Great.
It was one of the ones who tried to stay really true to the actual story. Was Keira Knightley
in that one? Keira Knightley. I didn't see it. And it was
mostly set in a weird depressing
swamp world. Crazy. And it just
wasn't good.
It wasn't good.
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yes
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Now, Mason, you had some news.
Well, it wasn't so much news, but a friend of the show, listener of the show, big booster
of the show.
Yeah.
Ralphie A., who you might know as Ralphie from the show A Cake Boss.
Hello, Cake Boss.
From the medium of television.
Maybe you've heard of it.
He had a suggestion.
He's a great guy.
Yeah.
And he listens to it at the old cake shop, which is fantastic.
Yeah.
A lot of aggressive Italian guys in that shop.
Have you noticed?
How do you mean? A lot of aggressive Italian guys in that shop. Have you noticed? How do you mean?
A lot of aggressive Italian guys.
I've never noticed that.
Okay, right.
Should I be saying this?
No, it's a smoothly run workplace.
Okay, cool.
All right, no worries.
That's what people want on television, is a really smoothly run, uninteresting workplace.
You know?
Maybe that's my racism.
That's my racism.
That's my prejudice that I put on that.
Yes, absolutely.
God damn it
anyway he tweeted at us
and he suggested
and I think this is a great idea
and it's something
we'll probably talk about
in this episode
yeah
is a Death's Head movie
are you familiar with Death's Head
you know what
I'm not that familiar with it
and I wanted to ask you about it
yeah yeah
fill me in
and it's
he's made a recent reappearance
in the Marvel Universe
okay yeah
and he would fit
very well and I agree with Ralphie
that he would fit very
well at the very least
as a cameo appearance in the upcoming
Guardians of the Galaxy
but I would like to see this also as a
standalone movie
Can you talk about the character?
Absolutely, well when I was a kid
this is basically an excuse for me to talk about him
because he's one of my favourite characters.
Sure.
So whatever.
Yeah, when I was a kid,
in Australia we got both the American Transformers comic book
and we also got the British Transformers comic book,
which sounds horrendous when you think about it.
I would never suggest such a thing.
What you're thinking right now is like very proper robots
who transform into like teapots and like horse-drawn carriages and stuff like that.
I was thinking Bitty and the Beast with Transformers.
But you're wrong.
Basically, the British Transformers comic was weekly.
And so they needed a lot more content.
And so they got like British writers and artists to do additional stories.
Like the team who do Pad stories, like colour ones.
Like the team who do Paddington Bear and whatever, all that kind of stuff.
Yeah, the Paddington Bear guys, sure.
Absolutely.
The Keeping Up Appearances team, sure.
What's the one, that pirate with the mouth?
Captain Pugwash?
Captain Pugwash.
Pugwash.
Yeah, that's them.
Anyway, so the Marvel UK introduced into the Transformers UK series this character called
Death's Head, who was a bounty, like a giant robot bounty hunter, or freelance peacekeeping
agent, as he called it.
Gotcha.
Who was essentially variously hired to assassinate various Decepticons and Autobots.
Like, initially he was hired to kill Galvatron.
Yeah.
And then later the Decepticons rehired him to kill Rodimus Prime.
Right.
But essentially, as a character, he's been around for several decades now, and he is
essentially tangled with everybody in the Marvel Universe.
Like, he attempted to kill Galvatron.
Yeah.
Didn't work out so much.
He traveled through time for a little bit. He encountered the 1980 Galvatron. Yeah. Didn't work out so much. He travelled through time for a little bit.
He encountered the 1980s Transformers.
He blew up Bumblebee, who was then resurrected as a gold bug.
Right.
He came back to the future.
Unrelated.
He attempted to destroy Rodimus Prime.
Didn't work out so much.
He sort of tangled with all those guys.
He, in flying through space and time in his time travel vehicle,
he ran into the Doctor, the seventh
Doctor. The seventh Doctor? Yeah. Which one
was he? Sylvester McCoy. Salary?
Yes. No, that was five. Straw Hat?
Yes. Gotcha. Yeah.
Who then shrunk him down to human size. Right.
He was then sent further into the future.
He fought these guys called Dragon's Claws
who destroyed him. He was put back together
again. Can I stop you for a sec?
Is this all off the top of your head?
Yes.
He's gone into the...
He goes into the past again.
He...
Let's see.
He fought She-Hulk.
Right.
He fought...
He joined the Time Variance Authority, who are like the Marvel Time Police.
He fought the Fantastic Four.
He...
Oh, gosh.
Let me think.
He's fought S.W.O.R.D., who are like an extraterrestrial...
I know S.W.O.R.D., yeah, yeah. Yeah, who like... They're like a spin-off of S.H.I.E.L.D. They're like Space Shield, yeah. They me think. He's fought Sword, who are like an extraterrestrial. I know Sword, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, who like, they're like a spin-off of S.H.I.E.L.D.
They're like Space S.H.I.E.L.D., yeah.
They're like Space S.H.I.E.L.D.
Yeah, yeah.
Man, who else?
Well, you know what, though?
Yes.
Tying into this, Michael Bay said there's a player in Transformers 4 who drops in and
has his own agenda, and as soon as he does that, he's going to leave.
Interesting.
Now that I've heard this, that sounds like it could very well be him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, the ownership of Death's Head's a little bit muddy.
Okay.
Because technically if something appears in like a Transformers comic book,
it's owned by Hasbro.
Oh, okay.
But actually, if you want to know anything about Death's Head,
just go to Google Image Search and Google Death's Head High Noon Texts,
which is his first appearance, which is like a single page thing that appeared in a lot of Marvel UK comic books.
And it's sort of a good introduction of this character.
He's a real prick, basically. He's a total prick.
So what actually is he?
He's an android.
He's an android, okay, yeah.
Who was built with a combination of technology and magic.
That's my favourite.
Yeah, Gosh.
And actually, yeah.
So he's recently appeared again in the Marvel Universe.
He was hired to engage in gladiatorial combat with Iron Man.
Sure.
Who had recently made a journey into space.
Was that when he joined the Guardians of the Galaxy team?
That was just before that.
Just before that.
Okay.
Yeah.
So he's made an enemy of everybody in the universe, essentially.
He sounds like the most amazing character that's ever been created i know and it's weird it's so few yeah
it's i'm glad he's coming back yeah yeah well that sounds like he's kind of wasted in a michael bay
transformers movie if he is kind of wasted because he'll also and again this is this sort of leads
into what we're going to talk about this week because i would love to see that played out live
action or in cgi or animation or whatever but it's far too insane and far-reaching to make happen.
You're right.
He's got to appear somewhere, but that's going to be a lot of work.
Absolutely.
That's a great suggestion from Ralph.
Absolutely.
What a great bloke.
So yeah, that's obviously a movie that you'd want to see.
Yes.
I've actually, in preparation for this, listed some comic story arcs or standalone issues
or whatever that I'd like to see adapted
that we also could talk about.
Do you have more than Death's Head?
I've got a few more.
You've got no more, do you?
I'll think of some.
I'll think of some.
Give me a little one, mate.
Go and then we'll see what happens, eh?
So I thought, well, Jack Sheehan,
who writes into the show a bit,
he's a great guy.
We called him,
he wrote as Jack Poison Lip Sheehan last week.
I'll also be team, but he fought AIM. He fought A he fought aim essentially there was there was a right i forgot i just remember this
there was a there was a i built a robot called minion right it was sort of like a biomechanical
robot creature right and he he's his mission was to go around the world killing a variety
of like notable figures and absorbing their personalities and their powers and like abe
lincoln yeah like abe lincoln He'd kill an Abe Lincoln, whatever.
But essentially, he killed Death's Head and attempted to absorb his personality and his
skills and whatever.
Yeah.
And then Death's Head just took over his body.
Okay.
And then he became Death's Head 2.
And then he just...
More mayhem happened.
That's great.
He's killed a lot of people.
He sounds like Space Deadpool.
He's a little bit like Space Deadpool.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
He's got a very dry sense of humour.
Sure.
Yeah.
And he's a prick.
That's my favourite combination of things.
Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah.
But Jack Sheehan,
it was Jack Poison Lip Sheehan
who wrote in last week.
It was called that
because I think you suggested
that's the guy who had the lip surgery.
And you said maybe
they've given him poison lips or whatever.
So that's the same guy.
But anyway,
he emailed in a while back saying,
what comic story arcs do you want to see made into films?
So this week, I thought,
coming off the back of Captain America and whatever,
this week we'll talk exclusively about Marvel comics
we want to see made into movies.
But we need a rating system, Mason,
from the perspective of a lot of these
are going to be impossible to make.
Absolutely.
Like the one you've just mentioned.
So the rating system I've decided is
likely or you've screwed us again Hollywood
Fantastic
So I'd say for that first one
You've screwed us again Hollywood
So look as I say
every week I think if you've got a topic
please write in and hopefully
we'll get around to it eventually but do you want me to kick it off?
Kick it off mate. This is a pretty standard
one which everybody has talked about.
It's nowhere near as interesting
as the one you just said.
Civil War.
Yep, okay.
For those unfamiliar,
and there'll be mild spoilers for these comics
if you haven't read them,
so just be aware of that.
I feel also a lot of...
We've had...
We should go from the perspective of a lot of...
A lot of, I think, famous comic book story arcs
have sort of been filtered into the main Marvel movie universe, but a lot of them just small
elements.
Yep.
And maybe in a lot of cases, that's the only way we can go.
Like, X-Men 2 was based on God Loves, Man Kills, which was quite...
There were similar elements.
There was kind of a fake Cerebro that could kill everybody in the world.
Yeah, yeah.
There was a character called Striker
but he was
he was Reverend Striker
and not General Striker
okay yeah yeah
little things like that
well I guess it's also like
they'll never for example
do the demon in a bottle
story arc
but you see him get
super drunk in Iron Man
exactly so that's
I think in a lot of cases
they just go
I remember that story
can we compress that
into one scene
yeah exactly
and there it is
yeah yeah
but basically Civil War
is basically where
there's a superhero
registration act that's put into place,
requiring, because there was a massive accident where some kind of amateur superheroes wiped out this whole kind of town.
The New Warriors.
The New Warriors, that's right.
Like, a massive kind of area, because they went up against,
they were filming a reality television thing, and it just, they were completely outclassed,
and then this whole thing happened.
Due to that, Tony Stark and S.H.I.E.L.D. decide to put in place steps to prevent this from
happening again and every superhero has to be registered and their identity needs to
be known, which to a lot of superheroes, they rely on keeping their identity secret so that
villains and whatever don't come after their family and et cetera, et cetera.
Basically, the Marvel Universe is split in two.
You've got Iron Man on one side, who's all for the registration,
and Captain America on the other side, who they think is going to be on board with the registration.
He's Captain America.
Exactly. Everybody knows who Captain America is.
And so they thought, well, Steve Rogers, they know who he is.
He's obviously going to be a good front man for this.
And he decides to gather up all the superheroes and pit them against each other.
The problem with this is, though, doing it,
it requires a lot of backstory and a lot of setup
and a whole lot of different characters
which haven't even been introduced to the universe.
I'd like to see a version of this
kind of worked into Captain America 3.
Can you imagine, right, Captain America 3,
where if you pitted Captain America's crew
against Iron Man's crew,
that would very well rival
the Batman versus Superman kind of thing at this point.
You're probably right, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So from that perspective,
but also the same point,
it'd be hard to make it in a way
that it doesn't seem really contrived
just over the period of one movie.
Yeah, and also,
there aren't that many superheroes.
No, not at this point.
In the Marvel movie universe.
The thing about Civil War that it worked...
If only we had a TV show
where they could introduce them weekly. Yeah, I know, right?
That'll never happen, though.
Let's find some rocks somewhere
in Cuba or something
that are magic rocks.
Yeah, because it works in the comic book
universe because there's so many superheroes.
That's right. And in the
movie universe, we've got
only a few superheroes
ultimately, and a lot of them have publicly
known identities yeah like we know that iron man is tony stark yeah we know that captain america
steve rogers yeah who else has left we know that thor is thor yeah he's just a guy called thor
yeah yeah you're i mean hawkeye hawkeye and scarlet witch yeah their identities are in public
now anyway yeah well that's true yeah yeah after the events of you mean Black Widow
Black Widow
yeah yeah
sorry
yeah
Scarlett Johansson
that's exactly it
it's also
yeah
we know who Scarlett Johansson is
Tony Stark
I can't imagine
the movie version of Tony Stark
he's way more light hearted
and anti-authority
than he is in the comics
he really is yeah
he's a very different character
a lot of people don't realise that
but the comic book Tony Stark
is very very different
he's very somber and kind of down on himself all the time yeah he's a real dick no he's good i like
it but um he wouldn't be pro registration i'd imagine but i guess the way they could work it
in is if tony stark's gonna head up the new avengers team in the avengers tower and he maybe
starts up his own shield agency then that's a condition of working for him and that's trying
to something he's trying to push
on all superheroes
because he's always
being very open
about who he is
and people being
accountable for their
actions in the movie
even also because
that's why he turns
around his whole life
because he's suddenly
making amends for
the for the weapons
of mass destruction
he's made and so
everything that he
does is kind of a
step towards
redemption exactly
so maybe that will
kind of do it.
But also, on the other hand,
you've got a whole lot of characters
that play a massive part in that story.
Sue Storm, Spider-Man.
Like, there's a clone robot Thor.
Thor, yep.
Sure.
But most of those, except for the Thor,
you couldn't use
because they're owned by other companies.
Right.
And all those characters play a big part in it
because a big part of that story arc
is Spider-Man unmasks himself.
Yes.
Which has now been retconned,
because he made a deal with the devil and...
Yeah.
I don't know about that.
Yeah.
But stuff like that you can't do,
and that's a big turning point,
because Reed Richards also sides with one,
sides with Tony Stark,
and Sue Storm defects to Captain America's side.
Spider-Man also, after he takes his mask off,
he kind of gets conflicted about who he is, and he gets an Iron Man suit that he's...
Yeah, I was just about to mention the Iron Man suit.
There's a whole bunch of stuff.
Which has three, like three spider arms on it.
Yeah.
Why does it have three?
Make it four.
Come on.
Maybe his head is an arm.
Oh, yeah, good point.
That's right.
That's a really good point.
So, yeah, I mean, from that perspective, you could do a kind of watered-down version of it.
And even then, I'd like to see it, but I would say the chances of this being a faithful adaptation is unlikely.
Absolutely.
I mean, you've screwed us again, Hollywood.
You've screwed us again, Hollywood.
There we go.
Actually, one I'd like to talk about.
Sure.
I don't know if you remember it, but this is one back from the very late 80s.
It was called Acts of Vengeance.
Okay.
And on the surface of it, it could kind... It could kind of tie into the regular...
Maybe it couldn't.
It could sort of tie into the movie continuity.
Sure.
Essentially, what happened is Loki...
So that worked so far.
You screwed us again, Holland.
No, we've got Loki.
Yeah, yeah.
Loki attempts to...
Loki wants revenge on Thor, and he wants revenge on the Avengers
Revengers
Revengers, thank you
Essentially because
well, he hates his brother
and also because
Who doesn't?
Yeah, and he was also largely responsible for
creating the Avengers
in the comic book universe and in the movie universe
They came together to fight him
So essentially what he does is
he gathers all the Marvel villains,
and he sort of coerces them into switching heroes.
Okay.
So the idea being that Magneto will fight Spider-Man,
and because Spider-Man's completely unfamiliar with his power set and whatever,
Magneto will just crush him.
And so essentially Loki breaks open some supervillain prisons
and he lets a lot of
minor villains escape
and just sort of
has them all switch sides
and send them against,
you know, all the...
Whoever.
Yeah, whoever, exactly.
That sounds amazing.
This also,
it didn't work out so well
for a lot of reasons.
A, because Marvel heroes,
you know, they're the best.
That's true.
But also,
it was also a story arc wherein
spider-man inadvertently gained the powers of captain universe for a few months right so
essentially a whole bunch of villains went after spider-man you know with with the idea that they
were going to crush him yeah but then it turned out spider-man can do anything okay right so he
could you know he could you know shoot his webs around a bomb and then turn the webbing into an adamantium box.
Right.
And then...
And that's it.
Okay, gotcha.
Yeah, so Spider-Man could fly and shoot energy beams and survive in space and all this sort of stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
So it was...
Posts a zero threat.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So it was a super fun storyline.
Sure.
So elements of that could work.
Yeah.
You know, we've got Loki
we've got
you know
the trading villains
that whole thing
but again
we need Spider-Man
we need
yep
you know what
the other problem
with that is
a lot of the villains
that people have
there's not a lot
of really definitive
Marvel villains
that they've introduced
into the movies
who haven't died
that's true yeah
like Red Skull
I know he's in space
or whatever
but if you pit Red Skull
against Thor,
he's going to get smashed.
Yeah, but what if Red Skull's got a lot of Hydra weapons?
Good point.
Yeah, yeah, that's a really good point.
But yeah, I don't think there's enough established villains
who are alive that they could use for that as well.
But that sounds amazing.
Yeah, yeah.
There's also a sequence where Spider-Man punches the Hulk into orbit.
So that's pretty fun.
It sure is.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
All right, well, so what do you think?
Likely all Hollywood something.
Hollywood screwed us again.
You've got us, Hollywood.
There's also, because I was a big Spider-Man reader at the time,
and there was essentially a scene,
the opening sort of gambit of Acts of Vengeance
was the Trapster, who's a's a i guess sort of more or less a
fantastic four villain who just like shoots glue guns and stuff like that and he essentially he
he came up to spider-man and gave him a pasting so to speak and then sort of the next issue
spider-man gains incredible powers and just pulps him it's it's pretty it was super fun
find that issue if nothing else.
Sure, absolutely.
My second one again is pretty obvious
and I think we may be saying this.
The death of Captain America
or a variation of that. Now you've gotten in
trouble for swallowing that. I've gotten in trouble.
By speculating that maybe Captain America
will die at some point in the future. On that same
Easter egg video that I put up, I mentioned
that some of the Easter eggs in Captain America
allude to the death of Captain America.
They introduce crossbones,
Bucky Barnes is holding the shield at some point
who may take over or whatever.
And some of it's very upset that I've potentially spoiled Captain America.
By saying a thing that you think might happen.
Yeah, exactly.
I feel that is what got you in trouble.
Yeah, you're probably right.
But you know what the thing is though?
I didn't pick him as Crossbones in the film.
No?
I guess he must...
Yeah, I guess that makes sense.
Yeah, yeah.
I didn't recognise the name.
No, that's fine.
Well, yeah, because he's not really known as Brock Rumlow, is he?
No.
So, you know.
I should have known, though.
You should have known.
Yeah, yeah.
They probably say his name once.
Right, okay.
So, there's a lot going on there.
But, like, the thing about spoiling that comic is, the spoiler is in the name of the comic.
Right, exactly.
Do you know what I mean?
And it happens very early in
the comic as well also people say i think someone else said that i spoiled the fact that crossbones
killed captain america but that's not actually how it happens i'm not going to go into how it
happens but there's a whole lot of other stuff going on there that i'm not going to get into
you can't say anything on the internet man it's a crazy place it's a lot less we're shutting this
down right now so yeah but um i think even if you didn't have...
The problem with what they've done with bringing back Agent Coulson is
that anybody in the Marvel Universe now, like the comics, can be brought back.
And death is not permanent.
Right.
Even though they destroyed the thing that brought Coulson back and whatever.
And they also brought Skye back from the dead in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Okay, so have we definitively determined how Coulson came back yet?
I can't remember.
It's a head.
They were messing with his head.
And there was a drug that they gave him, but they also gave Sky.
And then he got better.
And maybe it's magic or whatever.
Yeah, but see, there's definitely a way.
See, they've mishandled that.
There's definitely a way you could bring back a character from the dead,
but not have him actually come back from the dead.
There's so many
options that they've lmd lmd hologram they could have just you know they they could have just
spirited away poster but yeah just a poster of them yeah just a oh no he just got stabbed through
the wooden dummy wooden dummy but yeah they could have just said we took him away before he died
yeah we put him on a respirator then whatever
he didn't die
we just got him
medical attention
really quickly
and now he's okay
and we just kept it low
low key
to keep the Avengers on site
that's it
exactly
you're right
they could have
absolutely done it like that
but I think
you could do
Death of Captain America
without actually
killing Captain America
if you didn't want to do that
like you said
you could incapacitate him
in some way
and then Bucky has to take over for whatever reason.
I think that'd be a variation of that I'd be very happy to see,
especially because Chris Evans has three films left,
and the guy plays Stan Sebastian, I think his name is.
I can't remember.
I always get his name mixed up with...
Sebastian Shaw?
Sebastian Shaw.
Yeah.
He's got like nine films on his contract,
so I think there's a very good chance that that happens.
Sorry if I spoiled that seven-year-old comic for anybody.
But yeah.
But yeah, so I'd say likely, Hollywood.
There you go.
We got you.
Okay.
You know?
Yeah.
And here's another likely one.
What about the Infinity Gauntlet?
Well, I assumed Avengers 2 was going to be Infinity Gauntlet based, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Because we've seen a lot of elements.
We know Thanos exists in the Marvel Universe.
He will be in Guardians of the Galaxy.
We have seen Infinity Gauntlet.
Yes.
Do you think they're going to use that?
I think so, definitely.
Okay, right.
I think that's been the play from the get-go.
Do you think that they kind of just threw in a whole bunch of references to Marvel artifacts
and stuff like that and just saw what most people were interested in
probably yeah
I feel that's kind of
the way they went
like there was
there were other
there was like
Doctor Strange's
like
Aya Bagamoto
like his
that's in
that's also in
the treasure room
is it
yeah
I didn't know that
yeah it is
yeah
so
I think they were
just like
what is the best
fan reaction
to all this stuff
and people went
Infinity Gauntlet sure so I think that's pretty much okay I think that were just like, what is the best fan reaction to all this stuff? And people went Infinity Gauntlet.
Sure.
So I think that's pretty much...
I think that's a lock.
Fantastic.
Yeah, I agree.
I'd say Avengers 3.
I mean, and how many gems have we've seen?
We've seen the Mind Gem and the Tesseract
and the bloody...
The red one from Thor.
The red one from Thor, absolutely, yeah.
You know, we've seen them all.
Yeah, yeah.
Look, I'd say that's very, very likely
and that's what they're building too.
I think what they're doing with Guardians of the Galaxy, and they're slowly introducing
elements of space travel and magic or whatever, which all builds toward the Infinity Gauntlet.
Because if you open with the Infinity Gauntlet, that's like watching Green Lantern.
You don't want to do that, yeah.
It's just nonsense from space and references you don't know, so they've made the right
play here.
Yeah, yeah yeah definitely
yeah yeah
if that's where
they're going
which I'd say
very well
they would be
going to it
Hollywood
I've got another one
I'm ready
I'm ready
a very obvious one
okay good
might have all
very obvious
fantastic
Old Man Logan
is that obvious
yeah I think
a lot of people
want it
no
okay I was going
to suggest a few
other sort of
X-Men based ones sure but I think Days of Future people want to... No? Okay, I was going to suggest a few other sort of X-Men based ones.
Sure.
But I think Days of Future Past is going to be the end of time travel based X-Men stuff.
I agree with you.
Exactly.
Future Past, Future...
I don't think people will want to see...
No.
It looks good.
It looks really good.
Yeah.
But I think if you throw in another timeline variation or a possible future, that's just
going to confuse people.
That's exactly right.
But so...
Yeah, let's...
I made that
exact point where basically it's if you're introducing alternative futures and alternative
realities it just messes up the whole universe even if it makes sense people still will be like
what is happening you know what i mean but basically um the way the story works if you
haven't read it and i recommend picking it up i'd say it's one of my favorite mark miller um
runs on something it's a it's a standalone I'd say it's one of my favorite Mark Miller runs on something.
It's a standalone thing.
Yep.
It's however many issues.
Geez, I'm doing this justice.
I know.
But basically, Wolverine is a very old man.
It's in the, about 50 or so years in the future.
A lot of the Marvel characters are dead.
Right.
Villains and heroes.
What's basically happened is all the villains have assembled
and thought, well, look, each hero has at least ten villains
at any one time in their rogues gallery.
So if we all teamed up and organised,
we could wipe these guys out quite easily.
So you've basically got the mass annihilation
of pretty much every major Marvel hero.
That was kind of the plot of the other Mark Miller series that I enjoy that was turned
into a movie that wasn't very good.
Wanted.
Yes, exactly.
It is.
You're exactly right.
And basically, one of the only ones who was left is Wolverine, but he's, due to unforeseen
circumstances, is something tragic that happens to him, as it always does.
Yeah.
He doesn't fight anymore.
He's just had a family.
as it always does.
Oh, yeah.
He doesn't fight anymore.
He's just had a family.
He lives under the reign of the Hulk's family.
Okay.
The Hulk has gone crazy through radiation poisoning over the years,
and he's got descendants of him who are not as strong as him, but are basically these permanent Hulk men who are just these redneck monsters.
Yeah, right.
Who just bail everyone up for money and just deliver severe beatings.
His healing factors slow down.
He doesn't fight anymore.
And he's running out of money.
So what he has to do is he has to deliver this super serum with Hawkeye and blind Hawkeye across America to basically start what he thinks is a new Avengers.
And so they're going across the wasteland of what's left. And you see the remnants of heroes and villains.
And you come across the whole country is divided into sectors.
Like Dr. Doom owns this part and Red Skull owns this part and whatever, whatever. villains and you come across the the whole country is divided into sectors like you know dr doom owns
this part and red skull owns this part right and whatever whatever and certain characters take on
the mantle of others so like there's a new kingpin but it's not the original kingpin and and whatever
it's it's a great buddy kind of it sounds like i was gonna say yeah like a good road trip it's
it's one of the best talk it sounds like future post-apocalyptic fear and loathing and lost
yes they have do they have fun
do they have a little bit of fun
they have a little bit of fun
yeah yeah
and it basically culminates
in this amazing
kind of Red Skull
Wolverine show
when you say they're
sending the super soldier
serum across America
it's lots of tabs of acid
isn't it
that's right exactly
yeah yeah
and then it has another
kind of finale after that
and it leaves itself
open to a sequel
interesting
as a comic book
because Mark Millar
is now tied up in Fox
or whatever
I'm not sure it's going
to happen anytime soon
even though he has
spoken about it
the problem is of course
your two main characters
one is owned by Fox
which is Wolverine
Hawkeye is owned
by Marvel
right
that's one of the
many many things
wrong with that
Hulk is a major
villain in it
you can't use him
Red Skull is a major
villain in him
you can't use him
right a whole bunch of like Spider-Man's in it well referenced in it you can't use him. Red Skull's a major villain in him, you can't use him. A whole bunch of, like, Spider-Man's
in it, well, referenced in it,
you can't use him. He's owned by
Sony. Do you think you could,
do you think Sony could do it on their own?
Do you think you could replace...
Well, that's the thing, that's what I've got here. So, maybe you
could replace, maybe it might work if you swap
the Hulk out for the Thing,
or the Juggernaut, maybe.
It's not as interesting.
You could replace Hawkeye with Longshot.
Sure, yeah.
Who is not, you know, he's not, it's a different power set.
It's a bit of a Longshot, mate.
Oh!
Shut up.
I'm trying to help you here with your dumb story you love so much.
Trying to make it happen.
But yeah, look, I think that they will attempt this at some point
yeah but i don't think they should until they can get it all together yeah maybe a reformed bullseye
could be oh yeah but no bullseye is owned by marvel now because oh yeah okay never mind
so look i'd love to see it but i think if we see it, it's going to be a real watered-down version.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
And it's not going to be that good.
Yeah, yeah.
And also, like you said, alternative future, people are going to be like, what is this?
Right, exactly.
When does it fit into the universe and blah, blah, blah.
And they're going to be like, well, is this the alternate future of the days of future past past?
That's right.
Or is it the regular universe or whatever?
Similarly, and I was going to talk about this, Hollywood, you've screwed us again.
I should stress that. Also, the Age of Ap've screwed us again. I shouldn't stress there.
Also, the Age of Apocalypse storyline.
Yes.
Which-
They are doing.
Are they really?
They're doing it in 2016.
Really?
Yes.
That's people-
Have we not talked about this?
I don't think so.
Maybe.
Potentially.
Sure.
Okay.
Because we're going to have to, they're going to have to introduce Professor X's son.
Yeah.
And then they're going to have to create, then they're going to have to have him go back in time
and kill, inadvertently kill Professor X.
Yes.
But is that going to be the days of future past past?
Well, what I think...
Is it going to be James McAvoy?
I think that's my question.
This is the outline of the movie,
so I don't know how this will fit in
because I don't think I've actually read that
or how I read it a long time ago.
That basically, Apocalypse is from the past.
He's one of the first mutants, if not the first mutant.
And it's basically the implications of that.
If you are a mutant and you're living in ancient Egypt,
what do you think you are?
Right, right, right.
Do you think you're a god or whatever?
Okay, you're talking about a film that's like the rise of Apocalypse.
Yes.
Okay, so the...
Sorry, go on.
Well, the Age of Apocalypse storyline essentially was that uh professor x has a has a child who's called legion and he has multiple
personalities and one and each of his personalities has a different power okay and so essentially he
he realizes one day that magneto has has stopped you know humanity and mutant kind from working
together magneto prevented professor x from kind of creating peace in the world between mutants and has stopped humanity and mutant kind from working together.
Magneto prevented Professor X from kind of creating peace in the world between mutants and humans.
So one of his personalities develops time travel.
So he goes back in time in an attempt to kill Magneto.
Right.
But he inadvertently kills Professor X.
So because Professor X was not there to form the X-Men,
when Apocalypse reappears on Earth to attempt to take over the world,
he's not stopped and he in in fact, takes over the world.
Okay, right.
And so this is a potential future in which Magneto has to lead the X-Men,
or what's left of the X-Men, and defeat Apocalypse in this potential future.
Bearing in mind this action movie is based directly off Age of Apocalypse, they say.
So I think elements of that are going to make their way in,
but I don't think they're going to, like you said,
I don't think they're going to do another wacky time-travel scenario.
Can't do it. Can't do it. No, you're right.
Yeah.
But I would love to see a variation of that.
Also, that movie's going to be set with the McAvoy cast.
I think it's going to be set in the late 70s, early 80s.
I would like to see that.
Sure.
That's good.
Absolutely.
So likely, I guess guess because it's happening i
guess so yeah but at the same time hollywood you've screwed us again that's right exactly
it won't be exactly comic book accurate and that makes me mad it doesn't that's fine
man they really restrict you because these characters all split up it really restricts
what you can make doesn't it yeah i got the runaways here okay i'd like to see the runaways
for those that familiar aren't familiar with it
I'll keep this brief
but basically
some kids discover
that their parents
are super villains
and then they stop them
basically
yeah
that's pretty much it
and it's good
you know
and I think it would
make an interesting movie
and is there any plans
for that
no
not to my knowledge
there was a movie
called The Runaways
about that band
yes
Joan Jett
whatever sure so you know Hollywood you've done it again you have and how my knowledge. There was a movie called The Runaways about that band. Yes. Joan Jett.
Whatever. Sure. So you know. Hollywood you've done it again. You have. And how. You got one? We talked about Secret War. Yeah I've got that down here. You've wrote that? Okay
well that's covered. Secret Wars is basically for those not in the know. It's like they
take all the heroes to another planet and make them fight. Oh we're talking about Secret
War. Oh I'm talking about Secret Wars. And Secret Wars fight in the 80s? Oh, we're talking about so there was Secret War Oh, I'm talking about Secret Wars
and Secret Wars
happened in the 80s
Yeah, yeah
I'm talking about
Secret Wars
Okay, so a being
called the Beyonder
who's like a cosmic being
Yeah
got all the
got all the heroes
and villains
he spirited them away
to a planet
that he created
and he made them fight
for his own amusement
Would you say
it's the equivalent
of putting a bunch
of cats and dogs
in a Hessian sack
and shaking it up?
Yes
Okay
Yeah
but cosmic powered Yeah That's the story arc where Spider- of cats and dogs in a hessian sack and shaking it up yes but cosmic powered
yeah
that's the story arc
where Spider-Man
got his black
symbiote
exactly
yeah
they should have
worked that
into Spider-Man 3
yeah
would have been
real good
but yeah
I guess that's
a kind of
I think that was
like the civil war
of then
yes
like that was
the big kind of
universe shake up
kind of thing
but you could
as much as
that would be
amazing to see
that would just be like a really kind of big video game kind of thing but you could as much as that would be amazing to see that would just be
like a really
kind of big video game
where you just watch
right exactly
like heroes punch
each other for
however many hours
that will never
ever ever
ever make that
ever
maybe one day
years
never
so yeah
what were you going to
say about Secret War
though
no I think I covered it
okay good
why don't you talk
about that Spider-Man comic?
That's your favourite Spider-Man comic.
Oh, my favourite Spider-Man comic.
I don't really remember.
We might have talked about this already.
We haven't.
We definitely haven't.
We have spoken about this.
Oh, in real life.
In real life, yeah.
Sure.
My favourite, and I don't really remember.
I never remember issue numbers of anything.
Sure.
But it was Spider-Man 349.
It was Amazing Spider-Man 349 and 350.
Your memory's really coming together this episode.
It's really spotty.
It's really spotty.
No, no, I'm really
impressed.
You never remember
anything.
But essentially,
Spider-Man had a
minor villain called
the Silver Fox, who
was like a really
old guy with a
tweedly silver
mustache, and he
was a cat burglar.
Is he British?
Is he in that
episode of The
Simpsons?
He's pretty much
that character.
He's almost exactly
that character,
actually.
And he stole...
Oh, he's in The Irredeemable Ant-Man.
Is he?
Yeah.
I have no memory of that.
He's like his roommate or his buddy or whatever.
Right, right.
Anyway, sorry, go on.
There you go.
But essentially, he steals a large gemstone and he just on-sells it to his fence or whatever.
And Spider-Man attempts to stop him or whatever and he slips through his fingers.
But then it turned out that the gemstone he stole was in the possession of Doctor Doom.
And Doctor Doom needed that gemstone for many of his mystical experiments.
Doctor Doom's mother famously is in hell.
That is very famous.
That is very famous.
It was on the news.
It was on the news, exactly.
And he's sort of attempting to find any way he can to get her out.
And so Dr. Doom comes to America to pursue him.
And we discover that the gemstone has been actually sold to a cult,
like a mystical cult who are attempting to, you know,
open a portal to some sort of horrific elder mansion, what have you.
As always.
Yeah.
And Dr. Doom is, you know, out of vengeance, just wants to kill the silver fox.
And Spider-Man says
look give me 24 hours
I'll get the gemstone back
everything will be sweet
yeah
and
Spider-Man is like
he's got some sort of
super Spider-Man flu
he's under the weather
he's not
he's not in shape
he's not battle ready
that Spider-Man sounds
a lot like the Spider-Man
from Spider-Man 2
yes he is
absolutely
yes you know he is.
And so he has to go and battle this cult by his lonesome and retrieve this thing.
Otherwise, bad things are going to happen.
But it's great because what we discover soon after is that Spider-Man has to battle his way through this cult,
like this armored fortress compound kind of thing to get this gemstone back.
And Doom's just slowly following him.
And Doom's indestructible.
He's wearing an indestructible costume.
He can fly.
He's got all the weapons in the world in that suit.
He's just letting Spider-Man do all the work,
just facing death in every single conceivable second.
And he's just going to follow him in,
just through the wreckage,
and just watch, see how it goes.
And then Spider-Man finally retrieves this at death's door,
and he gets the gemstone back,
and then Doom's like,
actually not, I'm going to kill that guy anyway.
And so Spider-Man has to fight Doctor Doom.
Right.
And it's the most one-sided fight in the history of Marvel comics
where it's
just Spider-Man
is on the run
and Doom is just
he's just toying with him
essentially
and there's always
a moment in a
Spider-Man comic
where
Spider-Man
he
rallies his strength
he rallies his strength
and he kind of
he's like
I've got to do this
for Aunt May
and I've got to do it
for Mary Jane and I've got to do it for all the innocent people.
And he lifts the...
He's trapped under a building or something and he loses all his strength and he lifts the thing and he saves the day or whatever.
So in this particular sequence, Dr. Doom is coming at him and he's like...
And he picks up a large piece of industrial equipment and he rips it out of the wall.
He's like, use my last strength,
and he throws it at Doom,
and Doom just flicks it out of the air with one hand
and just levels the building therein,
which I think is...
That's great.
And doesn't he try to escape at one point?
He tries to swing away.
And then he forgets that Doom can fly.
And look, I hate to spoil the ending,
but doesn't Doom then man he doesn't really need
the gem or
he retrieves the gem and then he just
uncovers like the silver fox's nest egg
which is this beautiful diamond that he
that he needed to
you know finally give up the life of crime
that he so desperately wanted to escape
and he just crushes it in front of him
because why wouldn't he
lesson learned I guess what issue is that? 349, 350 to escape and he just crushes it in front of him. Because why wouldn't he? Lesson learned?
Lesson learned, I guess, yeah.
What issue is that?
349, 350.
That sounds amazing.
Get into that.
All right, I've got another one, Mason.
Okay, I'm ready.
This is more of one for the people.
This is not for me.
Yep.
But basically, Planet Hulk and World War Hulk is something that people have been pushing
for.
For those not in the know, they drag Hulk.
Hulk is sent into space because he's too dangerous and he's basically sent to this gladiatorial planet and they pit him against monster after
monster until he revolts and has a child. And then he eventually comes back to Earth
with an army and just batters all the Marvel heroes and he breaks Doctor Strange's hands.
Yep.
And I think he tears Reed Richards in half or something, doesn't he? Or he stretches
him real far.
Oh, yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
Kevin Feige though
has said that
if he's going to do
a Hulk story
which apparently
at the moment
there are no
plans for
it'll have to be
a Bruce Banner story
what does he mean
by that
well Planet Hulk
is only
he's the Hulk
he's only Hulk form
yeah yeah
so unless they did it
but it wouldn't be weird
kind of having
Mark Ruffalo
in space
and everybody else
is an alien
right yeah and then do you know what I mean like I don't I don't think this this would work But it wouldn't be weird kind of having Mark Ruffalo in space and everybody else is an alien. Right, yeah.
And then, do you know what I mean?
Like, I don't think this would work, not just yet.
Maybe a few years down the track.
And also, with World War Hulk, have we seen enough of the Hulk being chased by the army and being the enemy?
You know?
I mean, it would be interesting to see him go up against all the Marvel characters at once.
That would be great.
I think in this case, it will be more the Hulk chasing the army.
Okay.
So that's a nice little twist.
Sure.
That's a nice little Benny Hill twist.
We have him being chased by the army and then he's switching around and he's chasing the army.
So yeah, look.
So I think if you're going to do a Hulk story, that's probably not the best one to start with at least.
But are there any Hulk stories that you want to see?
Like Grey Hulk, Red Hulk, Thunderbolt, Ross Hulk,
whatever his name is.
I like...
I was a big fan of...
Hulk Hogan.
Good one.
Hulk Hogan, yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
There was a storyline
in the 90s
where the Hulk
became sort of an amalgamation
of the Hulk and Bruce Banner.
Okay.
He was the Hulk all the time
and he was intelligent.
Ah, yeah.
And he sort of...
He became the leader of this secret organisation called the Pantheon. It was kind of... It was a good solid story banner okay it was the hulk all the time and he was intelligent ah yeah and he um he sort of he
became a leader of this secret organization called the pantheon it was kind of it was a good good
solid storyline okay i would like to see actually now that you mention it back in the 80s and when
when hulk was when hulk was gray again yeah he started out gray he became green then he was gray
again during the 80s okay so in the hulk's very first appearance i'll go back to right to the
start in the hulk's very first appearance he was grey, and then he would transform into the Hulk at night.
And they only changed it to green because they could get a more consistent green ink colour.
Yeah, exactly.
Isn't that right?
He wanted to be a...
They wanted him to be a non-human colour, so he wouldn't represent any particular race or whatever.
Okay.
And so originally he was grey, and then grey is apparently really difficult.
Back in the 60s, grey was really difficult to print. Which is weird, because everything was grey. then grey is apparently really difficult back in the 60s grey was really difficult to
which is weird
because everything
was grey
yeah I know right
so they made him
green and they
were like
well instead of
him being
changing when he
at night time
because he was
more of a
Jekyll and Hyde
kind of character
and so they
made him
green and
turned into the
Hulk when he
was angry
so back in the
80s
something traumatic
happened to him
and he started
he became grey
again
he was dacked again he was dacked
yeah he was dacked
pantsed
Americans call that pantsed
he was pantsed
and he became super embarrassed
and then
he started changing
into the grey hulk
when he
at night time again
and the grey hulk
was more intelligent
he could form
he had attitude
he wasn't as strong though
was he
no
because he didn't have the rage
yeah he was the weakest
of the various hulk incarnations but emotionally the rage. Yeah, he was the weakest of the various Hulk incarnations.
But emotionally the strongest.
Yeah, absolutely.
Which arguably is the least important strength.
Thank you.
Finally, someone's agreed.
And then this Hulk realised that it wasn't becoming daytime that turned him back into
Bruce Banner.
It was being exposed to sunlight.
So he discovered that if he just stayed in darkness, if he started wearing big cloaks
and such and hats, big sun hats, then he started wearing, like, big cloaks and such, and hats,
big sun hats,
yeah,
then he would never change back into Bruce Banner,
and he decided,
well,
that's kind of the life I wanted to lead.
So,
he moves to Las Vegas,
and he becomes an enforcer called Mr. Fix-It.
And he's a playable skin in the Incredible Hulk game.
There you go.
Yeah,
so it was,
yeah,
just an era of him wearing,
like,
big, big suits.
Big,
like,
pinstripe suits and hats.
Doesn't the Grey Hulk split from the Green Hulk at one point as well?
There was two running parallel?
No, there was...
At one point, the Hulk and Bruce Banner were split into two.
Okay.
But that's unrelated.
Let's make it all happen, though.
I'm an idiot.
Let's have the next Hulk movie.
It's just called Hulk 3,
a series of insane things that happened to the Hulk.
And it's just a series of fun vignettes
be like a
so he shot into space
he shot into space
chasing the army
Benny Hill style
yep
and then he's split into two
and then he becomes
a mob enforcer
be like
like Batman Gotham Knight
absolutely
or like
Jim Jarmusch
like that Jim Jarmusch
film Coffee and Cigarettes
which is just a series
of vignettes
where like
two guys from the Wu-Tang Clan
meet Bill Murray
or whatever
except it's
you know
it's Hulk's.
And then it could be like, there's your bloody Hulk movie.
Shut up.
We did it all.
We did all the stuff you wanted.
So I'm going to say likely.
Yeah, me too.
That's great.
Yeah.
I would love to see your ideas.
You're on fire this episode.
Thank you.
You should be hung over every day.
It's a shame no one will listen to this episode because your YouTube channel's down.
Thanks for ruining it for everyone.
All right, Mason.
I've got here any
Spider-Man story arc
where Peter Parker doesn't get sad
and then fights a guy who was initially a friend
of his. Okay, good.
Just anything. Just anything really. It would be great.
I'm talking a Miles Morales.
I'm talking the spectacular Spider-Man
where Doc Ock takes his body.
Or Superior Spider-Man, sorry. I'm talking Ben spectacular Spider-Man where Doc Ock takes his body. Yeah. Or Superior Spider-Man, sorry.
Yeah.
I'm talking Ben Reilly, Clode Saga.
I'm not talking that.
No, don't.
That's terrible.
Don't.
But, you know, something different from Spider-Man that we haven't seen yet.
Yeah.
Any story arc that isn't every Spider-Man movie that we've seen so far.
Something else.
You know what I mean?
Even a villain.
Yep.
Who is non-sympathetic.
I mean, they kind of did it with Venom, but that was not good.
I'm talking like a lunatic like Carnage.
Because a lot of times you can reason with these Spider-Man villains.
Carnage is just a lunatic.
Wouldn't you argue that the strength of the Spider-Man films is a lot of the times the villains are sympathetic?
I completely agree, yes.
But all I'm saying is, that's probably a bad example.
But I just want to see something else.
I would like...
I don't want to see another origin story yeah and how he's
running to class but then maybe he has to deliver a pizza and then he loses his job or maybe his
girlfriend doesn't believe him or whatever right i don't give a shit yeah do something else you
know i would like to yeah i would like i think it's true that one of the key points of spider-man
movies is the villains are kind of sympathetic yes but. But have I just one who's just a jerk?
Not even a murderer like Carnage, but again, crazy duel heist, guys.
Just having a crazy duel heist and it's crazy clash.
Absolutely.
It's a fun stuff that's happening, yeah.
Exactly.
You know what I mean?
Just something that we haven't seen.
Because I feel like we're getting the same Spider-Man movie again.
Or they pack it with villains.
Yeah.
And even if you've got sympathetic villains in there, you put too many villains in,
you've ruined everything.
Yeah.
Which apparently,
that is some of the problem
with The Amazing Spider-Man 2.
There are way too many villains in it
and whatever.
Which you'd think they'd learn.
You're going to get a complaint for that
because you've expressed...
You've expressed some sort of opinion, possibly,
on something somebody else has said.
Do you know what I mean?
I feel like I'm watching the same Spider-Man movie
I know what you're talking about
again and again
my opinion on the
Spider-Man movies
is very clear
you know
and I think
at this point
there's only one
the most successful one
is the Spider-Man 2
and even then
there are a lot of
improvements that can be
made to that movie
yes
I'm out
allegedly
if I had a microphone
to drop I'd drop it
maybe I'll just kick this microphone over please do yes so yeah there you go you got another one no I'm out allegedly if I had a microphone to drop I'd drop it maybe I'll just kick
this microphone over
please do yes
so yeah there you go
you got another one
nah I'm out
alright well we can
just talk about
some ones briefly
okay good
now I haven't read
this one but I was
I'm going to read it
soon so I guess this
goes into what are we
reading what are we
going to read
it's called Thor
God of Thunder
and it's basically
it looks at Thor
from three different
timelines young
arrogant Thor
from the past
modern day Thor
future Thor with one hand and a long beard and whatever and at one point they all come together basically, it looks at Thor from three different timelines. Young, arrogant Thor from the past, modern-day Thor,
future Thor with one hand and a long beard,
and whatever.
And at one point, they all come together and whatever.
And, you know, because I know they're also talking about doing the Ragnarok Thor storyline,
and whatever, whatever.
You know, something different from Thor, you know, sure.
Not that the Thor movies are bad by any stretch.
I think they've had a really good run so far.
I enjoy Thor 1.
I enjoy Thor 2.
I endure... Endure? I just endure them, Mason. I enjoy Thor 1. I enjoy Thor 2. I endure...
Endure?
I just endure them, Mason.
You endure them.
That's the term for when you endure something to do with Thor.
You endure it.
So, yeah.
I'd also like to see some sweet team-ups, Mason.
Uh-huh, sweet team-ups.
We've talked about sweet team-ups a little bit.
Yeah, let's hear some sweet team-ups.
There's a particular run.
The Brian Michael Bendis Daredevil stuff is all amazing.
Uh-huh, yeah.
Which I'm sure we're going to be getting that in the Daredevil TV series. By the way, it's rumoured that they're going to get the guy from De Bendis Daredevil stuff is all amazing. Which I'm sure we're going to be getting that in the
Daredevil TV series. By the way, it's rumoured
that they're going to get the guy from Dexter for Daredevil, which I think
is a good choice, but apparently he doesn't know anything about it
unless that's a misdirect. Who knows?
Moving on. He often is, yeah.
Yeah, that's it. Yeah, he'd be a great Daredevil.
He's got the build, he's
early 40s, so he's about the right age
or whatever. Anyway, there's a Daredevil Black
Widow run, which is Daredevil Black Widow run which is
Daredevil Volume 2
which is issues 61 to 66
where Daredevil
outs himself as
sorry
Matt Murdock
outs himself as
Daredevil
he gives the Kingpin
a severe beating
just to teach him a lesson
he's like
I'm sick of this shit
and he just gives him
this intense beating
and then reveals himself
and he's like
I'm the new Kingpin
maybe this isn't even this round but he does that around this time if he's like, I'm the new kingpin.
Maybe this isn't even this round, but he does that around this time.
If you have a problem, I'm going to come to your house and I'm going to beat your death.
Right.
So just be aware of that.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And so everybody's afraid of the daredevil and whatever.
And everyone's also afraid of Matt Murdock, but they can't prove that he is daredevil even though he's clearly just revealed himself to everybody and the FBI are watching him,
but they're afraid of him or whatever.
It's great.
But Black Widow comes into the picture at that point and him but they're afraid of him or whatever. It's great. But Black Widow comes
into the picture at that point
and they've got a kind of
relationship or whatever
and it's a great team up
because they're very
different characters
and they kind of work
well together.
So yeah.
Great.
Jessica Jones as well.
I want to see some
Jessica Jones stuff
which hopefully we'll see
in that TV show
about Jessica Jones
which I don't see why
we wouldn't see that.
We're going to see that.
Yes.
I wanted to ask you though
about some Punisher stuff because I know you're a big Punisher
fan.
What about a Punisher Max kind of thing?
I would like Punisher meets Archie.
You know that, obviously.
The classic tale.
The classic tale.
Well, again, we kind of did Punisher Max with the last two movies.
Sure.
There were elements of that, and I think people are going to be, I think production-wise,
people are going to be like, well, we did that for you, so what more do you want? But you know what would be great? To see the Punisher dropped into the Avengers universe, because I think people are going to be I think production wise people are going to be like well we did that for you so what more
do you want
but you know it would
be great to see the
Punisher dropped into
the Avengers universe
because I think they
have the rights back
to him now don't they
and because a lot of
people I don't know
are aware of this but
in the comics everybody
hates the Punisher
because he's a lunatic
and he always takes
things way too far
and like there's even
the bit in Civil War
where some villains
come up to team up with
Captain America's team
and he's like,
you know,
villains are affected by this too
and the Punisher just
guns him down.
Yeah.
And they're like,
what is wrong with you?
Right.
You know?
Like,
but he's hard to introduce
into this kind of,
not Disney-fied,
Disney-fied kind of
Marvel Universe,
but I guess that's what it is
to an extent.
And at the same time,
and I think I've mentioned this
on the podcast before,
everybody is a killer in the Marvel Universe in the movies,
but only the Punisher gets in trouble for it.
Yeah, that's right.
Like, Iron Man's killed a lot of people.
Captain America's killed a lot of people.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's just because the Punisher doesn't have a shield or a flying suit.
And he's not really taught up about it.
Yeah, he's quite okay with it.
Then people consider him a criminal slash mass murderer.
Yeah, yeah.
And everybody else has done a lot.
Black Widow's killed a lot of people.
Oh, so many.
Hawkeye's killed a lot of people.
Yeah, yeah.
That's it.
I mean, maybe it's his...
Thor hit that giant rock man with a hammer
and he all fell to bits.
Nobody complains about it, do they?
Nobody's sending the police after Thor.
That rock man had a family,
probably.
Probably.
A horrible family.
Yeah, made of mud.
Yeah.
Mud and sticks.
So yeah,
you got any other ones
before we move it along?
Nah.
We'll no doubt come back
to this at some point.
I'll think of one next week,
probably.
If you want to email in
or even hit us up on Twitter,
it's probably the best place.
I would like to see some,
talk about some,
yeah, email us about some team-ups.
I would like to hear.
Absolutely.
Just two men,
two, you know,
team-ups. Yeah, yeah. just two men two you know team ups
yeah yeah
or two ladies
one lady one man
as I said I think
that's the only way
or that's a really
surefire way to have
a really successful
Captain America 3
it would be to do a
kind of team up
or a
because why
why do they have to be
with the Marvel movies
just an Avengers film
where everybody's together
or a solo movie
where you got some
kind of B grade
kind of characters hanging around.
Why not get two A-grade heroes, plunk them together?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Why not do that?
That's the direction they should take it,
which is why I've accepted a job with Marvel Studios.
See you in Hell, Mason.
You're a dickhead.
I'm glad that you built all...
We did the whole podcast up until this point and
then the big reveal.
That's quite good.
That's very impressive.
I respect that.
Yeah, sure.
So, yeah, yeah.
Well, I guess we're going to move on to what we're reading.
What are we going to read, Mason?
Well, I'm going to, what we're going to read, I am going to finally watch Amazing Spider-Man
1.
Would you recommend that?
I don't know yet.
I just don't know.
I don't know if I'm going to recommend it afterwards.
Sure.
But I've been back to North Corner, so I'm going to have to watch it.
You're going to have to watch it.
That's exactly it.
So yeah, well look, what I'm reading, what I'm going to read actually this week is a podcast.
Ooh.
There's Casey Bennett.
He has this podcast.
It's called the Movie Multiverse Podcast.
It's a comics podcast as well, a movie kind of podcast like ours.
But he does a lot of amazing
graphics and they have proper intros and a real website and stuff they're like a real podcast we
have a proper intro theme that's true oh yeah which is then immediately let down by us doing
an improper intro he um he actually he contacted me on um on email he's like hey um email i know
right because i use one of his infographics in a video
not realizing it was his because i was going to bring this up anyway and and he's like oh thanks
for using my thing or whatever i'm like holy shit so i apologize for using that without asking
permission because often i don't ask permission i just take things and use them because i'm a jerk
that's probably why my youtube account is down almost certainly but um yeah but this podcast
if you love you know comics and and and movies and whatever definitely check it out i will i mean i've
been um i listened to the latest one and I'm going to make my way back through
them, but sure, they're a great podcast.
Ooh.
And so what I'm reading this week is Movie Multiverse Podcast on iTunes.
Fantastic.
And other websites.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So look, Mason, I guess we should talk about Goat Hand Solo.
We should address the goat in the room.
Sure, absolutely.
That I bought to highlight the importance address the goat in the room. Sure, absolutely.
That I bought to highlight the importance of this section of the podcast. Fantastic.
Yeah, yeah.
Goats are everywhere on the internet at the United.
I feel like I started it because I had a Goat Hand Solo picture forever.
Uh-huh, sure.
And now there's like goats doing the Game of Thrones themes or whatever.
Uh-huh.
And now people probably think that I'm jumping on the goat bandwagon.
But you were there from the start. I understand, sure. You were a goat pioneer. Uh-huh. And now people probably think that I'm jumping on the goat bandwagon. But you were there from the start.
I understand, sure.
You were a goat pioneer.
That's right.
Yeah.
So yeah,
we got some interesting responses
on Twitter, Mason,
from people who decided
whether they'd be a goat hand solo
in the real universe
or Harrison Ford stuck
in the Star Wars universe.
That was last week's ultimatum.
We got amazing feedback.
Opinions were divided.
Sure.
Would you say most people
lean towards being the goat hand solo? Yes, I think so yes i think so me too i think it's mostly because of the
blaster sure i think yes the blaster and the vest and the vest yeah yeah sure yeah yeah yeah
although uh let's see uh let's see on matthew galatzan on twitter said i he'd have to go with
harrison ford in the uh star wars universe because it'd be much harder to get laid as a goat
i think that's actually a really important point.
Then again, we don't know what the people in the Star Wars universe,
what their genitals are like
because they're not technically human, I guess.
That's true.
We've never seen them.
Okay.
Lucasfilm, we're going to need some full frontal genital work
in Star Wars 7 if you could.
Actually, Gabe via Twitter wants to know, and this was an important point,
is it Harrison Ford in the Star Wars universe before or after Return of the Jedi?
That's a really good point.
I'm going to say present day timeline.
So let's say it's 30 years after Return of the Jedi.
So it's comparative to our current timeline.
Okay, sure.
Does that make sense?
Or what would you say?
I'm going to say immediately post-Return of the Jedi.
Sure.
Okay, sure.
So, like, he's super famous.
And, like, are you Han Solo's dad?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, totally.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's see.
Mike Davis on Twitter says, I'm going forward in space.
Yep.
A grump wandering the galaxy in a Carradine Kung Fu sort of way, which I think is pretty
fantastic.
Yeah.
That's great.
Yeah.
Joel Acklin on Twitter says, Goat Han Solo.
I could shoot the blaster in the air
letting out horrible human-like goat screams.
Which I think is,
that's important.
That is important.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's that blaster coming into play again.
In fact, there's a lot of his,
Daxon on Twitter has also said Harrison Ford
in Star Wars Universe
because girls don't sleep with goats,
but they will sleep with Harrison Ford.
So I think,
yeah.
What a success this has been.
Absolutely.
Boy, there's a lot of them.
CJ Vera says,
I'd totally be a great hand solo.
All the hand stuff,
plus I can literally eat whatever I want,
which is a good point
because that's everyone's dream, isn't it?
Absolutely, yeah.
Eat a couch.
Anyway, that's pretty fantastic.
It sure is.
Thanks to everyone who responded
to our completely nonsensical poll.
I'm sorry if we've missed any.
We have, but they're all great.
No, we have.
We've missed quite a lot.
Most of them.
Yeah.
But they're all great, so thank you for that.
Really appreciate it.
Do we have another insane?
Would you rather this week?
We'll think of one for next week.
We'll think of one for next week.
Absolutely.
Well, look, I just want to quickly give a couple of shout-outs.
Blake Battersby, who's our youngest listener, I believe.
It's his birthday, and he wants us to sing Happy Birthday.
Before you start singing Happy Birthday,
this is not happening.
Okay, right, sorry.
Also, we'd have to pay the fee for the birthday song.
That's exactly right.
Happy Birthday, Blake, because Blake's a nice guy.
He emails in all the time.
Yep.
And which I presume if he's 15 now, that means he might not be the youngest listener.
That's a good point.
Yeah, he's going to have to fight someone.
Yeah, that's the rules.
Happy Birthday, Blake.
Happy Birthday, man. Christian Bornemann, also, that's the rules. Happy birthday, Blake. Happy birthday, man.
Christian Bornemann, also, it's his birthday, and he's also said, look, if I get a birthday shout-out, he wants to earn his shout-out, and by God, he has.
Really?
He sent us $4,000.
That's not true.
You're right.
He's giving us a proper pronunciation, because he's German, for Baron von Strucker.
Okay, I'm ready.
Because apparently the proper German pronunciation...
You're not going to get through the sentence.
Pronunciation, this is not going well.
And it's not the best day for it, quite frankly.
But let's push through.
Baron, he says, has got a specific German pronunciation.
Because it's also an English word, he's going to let that go past.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
But he says it's F-O-N, so von Strucker.
S-H-T-R-O-K-E-R.
Von Strucker.
Von Strucker.
There you go.
So there you go.
We've learned something.
That being said, like when we found out...
I didn't come into this to learn anything, quite frankly.
So how dare all of you.
You look pretty pissed off.
Yeah.
Look like the Gal Gadot thing where we found out it was actually Gal Gadot.
Yep.
We're probably not going to do the correct pronunciation. Look, like the Gal Gadot thing where we found out it was actually Gal Gadot. Yep.
We're probably not going to do the correct pronunciation.
No, because that'll involve thinking and memories.
Exactly.
Thank you, though.
Yeah, that's it.
Christian also said some really nice things about the podcast and how it's nice that we're brightening people's day or whatever, which I don't necessarily think is true.
I think we're enraging people.
But at least it's getting people moving, you know?
Motivated to send complaints.
You know it.
But he also said he's gone through a bit of a rough time at the moment.
And I just want to say, look, I hope that works out for you, man.
Absolutely, yeah.
Because you seem like a good guy.
And if we help you in any way, which is probably not at all, you're welcome, I guess?
Yeah.
Thanks, buddy.
Thanks for listening.
Yeah, appreciate it.
All right, Mason, here's a question for you this week.
This is from Ryan it. All right, Mason, here's a question for you this week. This is from Ryan Miller.
All right.
If you were to become any superhero to fight his or her greatest nemesis,
who has a plan that will destroy the planet if you fail,
which superhero would you be and why?
Take into mind the superhero's weaknesses
because the villain has everything that can be used against the hero in their possession.
Oh, my goodness.
That's a fucking tough question, man.
It's a tough question.
Yeah.
I guess Green Lantern because I don't only have to fight yellow fog movie green lantern yeah movie
green land i just make a mop yeah probably because at some point i'd imagine you wouldn't believe in
yourself but then you would believe in yourself exactly exactly thank you when you look at like
someone like superman for example i love superman Superman. I think he's one of my favourite characters.
But the problem with being Superman has always been, for me,
it is terrifying the concept that you will live forever
and watch everybody die around you.
As you get stronger and stronger and eventually live in the sun
and turn into a gold man, which happens to Superman,
everybody dies around you and you become less and less related.
You can relate less and less to people.
And apparently also as you get older, time for you, you perceive time differently and
the time becomes quicker.
That's why years seem to go by quicker when you're older.
So basically you get to the point where years are going by to you like the blink of an eye.
So what you're saying is Superman's ultimate villain is not Lex Luthor, it's existential
loneliness and despair.
How would you defeat that?
You can't. Just go for lots of long walks yeah yes and just yeah spacewalks stay stay active yeah yeah sure yeah but look the thing is if you were superman and you go up against luther lex luther
i don't have the morals of superman so if lex luther's like i'm gonna destroy the city superman
i would do what people are saying superman how would you do that if i punched a hole in your
head exactly yeah that's exactly it.
But for me, I guess I'd probably want to be,
if I was to be a superhero,
I want to be one that's got some minor enhanced strength
and some skills, but I'm not going to live forever.
Right.
So I don't want to be Wolverine,
even though some versions he doesn't live forever and whatever.
Like someone like a Spider-Man,
where he's pretty strong and he's pretty great,
but his villains are equally matched,
except that time when he got pasted by Doom.
Because if I was Spider-Man,
I'd just go to my villains' houses in the middle of the night
and just break their necks.
Great.
That's how I would deal with it.
You know?
I'm not facing the Green Goblin every day.
No.
Are you kidding me?
That guy's a fucking lunatic.
That's right.
I'd just go and murder him in his sleep.
Yeah, please.
Yeah.
What about you?
I think murder in the sleep.
I think you've nailed it, really.
For any superhero
pretty much yeah
yeah
sure
and I mean you know
Batman could just
fireball Markham Asylum
yep
pretty much solve everything
every problem
that's it
so there you go
yeah
well Mason
what a show it's been
absolutely
what a journey
how you feeling
how you holding up
oh mate
you know what
this has been a great show
thank you
it's been a great show
if we keep saying it enough it will become true How are you holding up? Oh, mate. You know what? This has been a great show. Thank you. It's been a great show.
If we keep saying it enough, it will become true.
If you say it's been a great show three times while staring into a mirror,
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That's right.
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If you don't want to, that's also cool, man.
It's weird.
You know what?
I'm in the opinion
this is hopefully an accident.
I'm assuming.
This will just resolve itself.
Yeah.
Right?
Well, maybe you accidentally
did a racism
on that last video.
Yeah.
You know, to be honest,
and I shouldn't say this,
most of my racism
is intentional.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Great.
You can find me
at Wikipedia Brown.
Absolutely.
That's the one.
So yeah.
Thanks for
listening guys.
Thank you for
listening.
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Oh yeah.
If you want
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