The Weekly Planet - 299 D23 & Spider-Man Leaves The MCU

Episode Date: August 26, 2019

Visit MVMT.com/weeklyplanet & get 15% off your purchaseHuge week for Disney with the D23 weekend. News on Marvels Falcon & The Winter Solider, The Eternals, Black Panther 2, WandaVision, Black... Widow, Ms Marvel, Moon Knight, She Hulk plus Star Wars news with The Mandalorian, The Rise Of Skywalker and Kenobi. Also Spider-Man is out of the MCU or whatever and The Matrix 4 and Uncharted and Breaking Bad movie and more. Thanks for listening!Dave Warnake Pie Guy: https://gourmetpieguy.brumbys.com.au/profile/dave-warneke/Donate Here Please: https://www.theintrepidfoundation.org/planetbroadcastingfundraiserSuggestibles Podcast: https://aca.st/cf053a0:00 The Start4:33 Spider-Man Gone15:08 Uncharted loses director16:17 Bond No Time To Die18:40 Breaking Bad movie trailer21:04 The Matrix 4 a go28:46 D2329:11 Miscellaneous Whatevs34:28 Marvel34:28 Falcon & The Winter Soldier41:09 The Eternals43:54 Black Panther 244:21 WandaVision45:21 White Widow47:23 Marvel What If?47:45 Ms Marvel Series50:14 Moon Knight Series55:12 She Hulk Series58:55 Star Wars1:02:45 The Clone Wars1:04:16 The Mandalorian1:13: 08 The Rise Of Skywalker1:18:00 Obi Wan Kenobi TV Series1:22:25 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:27:29 Letters It’s Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownTWP Itunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesBuy Spider-Man Far From Home Amazon ► https://amzn.to/2AQxPN3T-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:42 Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca That's sunrisechallenge.ca This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. This episode is brought to you by Movement Sunglasses. I love Movement Sunglasses. I know you do. Red hot comic book movie news Shooting up your butthole Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows
Starting point is 00:01:15 My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday With me as always is my co-host Nick Mason We're back And we've got a spring in our step We do We've figured out this weird machine that records things We've ironed out weird machine that records things. We've ironed out the kinks.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Well, you've ironed out the kinks. It's true. Allegedly. I haven't been here. We'll be stopping it multiple times during the show. Just in case, yeah. That will not affect the listening of this experience. And look, if you want to affect this- I feel it should.
Starting point is 00:01:37 I feel what we should do. What we should do is you stop the recording. Because we've got to check to make sure it's recording. So you stop the recording and I will start a voice memo on my phone so people can hear us like take the memory card out and then put it in the holder and then put it in your computer and then tap about. And go, oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Exactly. And then you can put that in in the edit later. Yeah, okay, that's good. Because, I mean, you've saved time because you put the theme song in automatically now. I do it all via machines. So why not waste more of your time? That's a really good point. Isn't it, though?
Starting point is 00:02:08 It's freed up time to do that now. I think so. I was going to say, though, Mason, if people do want to effect change in the world, like, say, the opposite of a raging bushfire destroying all our oxygen, our charity campaign is still alive. We are building a – well, not us personally, but the cause that we're giving to. It's a seaweed farm which helps CO2 emissions and things like that. That's right.
Starting point is 00:02:28 It regenerates the ocean life. And also you can eat it. You can eat seaweed. That's right. That's right. Have you ever eaten seaweed? Yeah, all the time. Huh.
Starting point is 00:02:37 You know, don't you have it in stuff? You chuck it in stuff, you might have a sushi roll even. That's probably a really classic example of where you might see a seaweed. You ever just eat it off the sand at the beach? You're going to say footpath but yeah yeah have you ever eaten off the footpath yes uh anyway forget that forget the environment for once in your life because you have a more important cause i've been meaning to bring this up for weeks and thank you for reminding me before the show you want to explain it oh so our friend dave warnerkey from the do go on podcast you know him he is attempting to become the uh the representative for like a like a bakery he wants to be their gourmet pie guy he wants to be the face of their pies as he should be and in
Starting point is 00:03:15 order to do so he has to win the popular vote yeah and we thought why not game the system yet again as we all is that's how we won many thing that we won exactly we have many loyal listeners i'm sure you like the podcast do go on yes uh but uh if you don't you should give it a try but also uh you should click what i'm going to assume is the link in our description absolutely description uh and uh just click through you just have to click once you just have to click vote for dave if you just google dave warner key gourmet pie guy even as well yeah just making sure that works it all works. Dave Warnke's Instagram is solely him with photos of pies.
Starting point is 00:03:48 He deserves this. I think so too. And if he doesn't get it, I don't know what I'm going to do. I don't know what I'm going to do. You can only vote if you're within Australia. So if you're not within Australia, you're going to have to crack out the VPN. And I absolutely insist that you do. Yeah, we need 6,000 votes to get him up there.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Is that right? I think so. Is it to the leader? Some fucking dad fuck is leading. Yeah, exactly need 6,000 votes to get him up there. Is that right? I think so. Is it to the leader? Some fucking dad fuck is leading. Yeah, exactly. And I don't like it. That's an eating a pie
Starting point is 00:04:09 on his life, this bloke. He's too busy holding like a baby carrier in one hand and like a protein shake in the other hand. Get out of here, mate. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Get out of here. We need this for Dave. Exactly. And also, if he wins, he has promised on the Do Go On podcast that he's going to purchase royal titles for Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Excellent. I think Jess wants to be a dame, Matt wants to be something else. Yeah, great. I've got a mate who's a lord, my mate Joe. I purchased one. Yeah, that's right. His wife got it for him for his wedding day. Joe, you know.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Yeah, okay. That's his last name, everybody. Look him up, Joe I know. Joe I know. Anyway, that's the most important business out of the road this week. We can wrap it up now, I think. Wrap it up. Let's all go home.
Starting point is 00:04:48 But before we do that, let's do hours and hours of podcasting. Oh, that sounds good too, actually. Look, there's links in the description for if people want to jump to any point in time for this podcast. I should have said that up top. Because there might be some spoilers. Oh, yeah, definitely. So, look, we're talking D23, the Spider-Man dispute. There's Bond titles, Matrix movies.
Starting point is 00:05:06 It's happening big time all the time, isn't it? You better believe it. So do you want to kick things off with Spider-Man then? Yes. Good, because that's- Oh, because actually I don't know what the- What is the- Where are we coming from?
Starting point is 00:05:16 Where are we? Okay. I can take us through it. This is Sunday night Australian time. Yes. So there's been some- There's been a huge kerfuffle. We heard many weeks ago that there was some clause in a contract somewhere
Starting point is 00:05:27 that said that if the most recent Spider-Man movie didn't make a billion dollars, the rights were going to revert back to Sony. But then it did make a billion dollars. Yes, but apparently it seems that this contract is also, it was coming to an end regardless. But basically how it started is six months ago this was due for renewal, that there was a renegotiation for the rights. Sony said if this tweet gets a million retweets, you can have Spider-Man back.
Starting point is 00:05:51 And it didn't get as many retweets as they expected. Absolutely not. So people say that Sony were keen to kind of split. Others say Disney were keen or Sony were keen to keep staying or Disney were keen to keep staying or whatever. It's kind of in their best interest to probably... Sony was like, you hang up first. No, you hang up. Oh, they've hung up.
Starting point is 00:06:09 It's probably in the best interest of both to organise something. I think it would help all their brands in general, but they couldn't reach an agreement. And apparently, Sony was willing to go to 25% of ownership on the Spider-Man property in terms of, sorry, what money made. And that's any property, any Spider-Man property, Venom, Spider-Verse, Morbius movies, obviously the MCU stuff. The way it works with the MCU stuff now is any Spider-Man movies
Starting point is 00:06:34 that Sony make, they get the money. I think maybe Marvel get 5%. But then Marvel get all the merchandise. Marvel have all the merchandise, all the video games, everything, even though Sony owns or not owns or uses the Spider-Man license for spider-man ps4 but there's also spider-man games and other systems or whatever i don't know the specifics of that and it's not relevant spider-man on game boy there's spider-man 2 on game boy you want game boy advanced spider-man you got it gotta believe it marvel's getting a little slice of change from that when you buy it
Starting point is 00:07:00 at the thrift store when you buy it at the cash cash converter. So also the MCU movies that Spider-Man appears in, the two Avengers ones and Civil War, Marvel gets the majority of that. Maybe there's a small cut for Sony there. Disney though wanted 50% as part of a co-financing deal with Spider-Man. So 50% of everything. So they're flexing their muscles.
Starting point is 00:07:21 They're like, okay, we made a couple of really great movies. Well, you know, generally well-regarded movies. Now we want more. We fixed Spider-Man 4, which they did. You guys did Venom. Yeah. Which, to be fair, made money. But also, Sony made Spider-Verse.
Starting point is 00:07:36 And Spider-Verse is probably, no, it is. It's the best Spider-Man movie. Yeah, but didn't do that well. No, but I think a sequel probably would. Right. I'd imagine. Anyway, Tom Holland apparently unfollowed Sony on Instagram. There were photos of him and Robert Downey Jr. together
Starting point is 00:07:52 holding an Iron Man and a Spider-Man figurine. So there was also rumours that Disney might have leaked this. I've heard that also. Or speculation to get traction, so everybody would jump on Disney's site and be like, just give it to Sony. But I feel like sony now somehow in this situation is perceived as like the little guy and disney's the monolith
Starting point is 00:08:12 which is swallowing up it's turned around yeah definitely right and i think look if sony hadn't made some good stuff with disney i'd with spider-man yep recently i'm talking about spider-verse i'd probably be inclined to go yeah maybe it's probably best for the character. But I think it might be good that he doesn't go back because Disney had everything else. And frankly, they don't really need him. Well, yeah, and you would hope that the next Spider-Man movie wouldn't be, it's Spider-Man and he's still dealing with the legacy of Iron Man
Starting point is 00:08:42 and all that sort of stuff. You'd want it to be, it's Spider-Man and he's protecting New York on his own. Yeah. The Avengers are out of the picture somewhere. Yeah. So it's all on him now. It's not. It's not going to be another pseudo-Avengers movie.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Yeah. It's not going to be another Iron Man movie and Spider-Man's in it. Yes. You'd hope it'd be something that stands on its own. I read recently, I'll see if I can find the tweet, that this year would be the year that Spider-Man would enter the public domain. If Disney hadn't changed the copyright laws many years ago. I'm in two minds about that.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Oh, yeah. First of all, that sucks that they did that because there's a lot of properties which I think have benefited from it. The popular one that people bring up is Sherlock Holmes. Oh, yeah, for sure. There's been a lot of good and not so good Sherlock Holmes stuff, Shakespeare and so on and so forth. But there is, I don't think, and I can't remember who said this,
Starting point is 00:09:26 I read a tweet, these superhero movies wouldn't be as popular or beloved if they were just in the public domain. Oh, yeah. Everybody was making a Superman movie. Every year. Yeah. It would be that. I mean, we'd get more Superman movies.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Yeah, sure. Maybe we'd get it. I mean, Superman's probably not a good example. If they made two Superman movies a year, eventually one would be good. Yes. But yeah, if you remember that situation where at one point there were two Bond movies at the same time. Yes, they were saying it again. Because there was that weird copyright issue.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Because they owned Spectre. No, sorry, Thunderball. Was that right? Yeah, it was Thunderball. One of them, yeah. Sorry, keep going. Yeah, I mean, the specialness disappears if every year we get a different take on Spider-Man or Iron Man or what have you.
Starting point is 00:10:09 That being said, it does allow companies to monopolise these characters of people who are long dead, which kind of seems ridiculous. I'm reminded of a situation with, everyone knows the song Land Down Under, right? There's a moment, there's a riff in that from Cook Bar that sits on the old gum tree. It's a bit that goes...
Starting point is 00:10:26 Like that. Imagine I bit that goes like that. Imagine I did that well though. And I can't actually put it in here because somebody owns that. Somebody bought the copyright or the rights to that. You're going to have to take it out now. I'm going to have to take it out. But the guy who put that in the song, they sued them and they get a cut of Land Down Under and he ended up getting sick and dying.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And Colin Hay, who is the head of Men At Work, that's the band. He's the boss of Men At Work. He's the boss of Men At Work. He attributes that. He's the foreman of Men At Work. He attributes his death to the guilt that he felt over kind of ruining this song and this band that he feels. Huh.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Because somebody bought the rights to this fucking song that nobody should own from a thousand years ago. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah. So, I don't know. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah. So, I don't know. I met Colin Hay once. Yeah, he's nice, isn't he? Mm.
Starting point is 00:11:12 No, I saw a gig. I went to a Colin Hay gig once, but this was right in the middle of that, that trademark controversy, and I think he was just, and I think he spends a lot of his life, like, posing for photographs. Yeah, of course. So if I can find that photo photo they don't also do it that in the when they play it anymore i don't know if you remember but they don't do that bit yeah right yeah so there you go doesn't somebody own happy birthday or something as well or whatever no i think that's out of copyright it should be yeah it's ridiculous yeah i think any song you remember you should own
Starting point is 00:11:42 that's what i think okay and then you get a cut of the profits? No. Nobody gets anything. Oh, okay. Yeah. Everybody gets nothing. Everybody has a Patreon. Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 00:11:53 That's fair. You write a song, you go into the recording studio, you pay to get it recorded, you release a copy on limited edition vinyl, and then people just take it out of the stores. And if they want to give you any money, they sign up to your Patreon. Anyway, this kind of wraps up for the moment by Kevin Feige coming out at D23
Starting point is 00:12:10 and saying, it's a shame about the thing, but Spider-Man, we made some great movies together. It was never going to last forever. Tom Holland was the same. He was like, I'm still going to be the future of Spider-Man. I'm still going to do it. It just means we can't have any MCU connections in the Sony Spider-Man movies. Apparently, it was also related to the director, John Watts,
Starting point is 00:12:26 because Sony won him and Marvel won him. Okay. And also apparently they- And they tore him apart in a tug of war. They had to. Oh my God. And Kevin Feige, I forgot to mention this, Kevin Feige was also, they wanted him as producer on the Spider-Man movies
Starting point is 00:12:38 because Kevin Feige has tried to fix a lot of Sony stuff. Like there's leaked emails where he sent notes over the amazing Spider-Man 2 being like, this doesn't make sense. What's this subplot? Just get to it. This is crap. And they didn't take
Starting point is 00:12:49 any of his advice. I remember because I've seen an Amazing Spider-Man 2. Yes, you know. That's the one with a million subplots that don't go anywhere, right? Yeah, that's the one, yeah. There's a bunch of dudes in a van
Starting point is 00:12:56 and the dude that's in a van subplot never goes anywhere. Yeah, the dude in the van subplot. They're probably still out there. They definitely are. You put Spider-Man back into the Sony Spider-Verse, we find out what happens to those dudes in a van. I mean, they're dead by now, obviously definitely you put Spider-Man back into the Sony Spider-Verse we find out what happens
Starting point is 00:13:05 to those dudes in a van I mean they're dead by now obviously unless somebody's bringing them snacks do you think like Sony and Marvel would be like
Starting point is 00:13:12 okay what we're gonna do is we're gonna cut Kevin Feige in half and you get to choose which half yeah and then whoever's like oh no don't cut him in half
Starting point is 00:13:20 they're the rightful they're the rightful or whoever gets the top half gets the ideas part they get all the brains yeah owners. Or whoever gets the top half gets the ideas part. They get all the brains, yeah, exactly, yeah. But whoever gets the lower half gets the balls, you know?
Starting point is 00:13:30 Just the real cojones. Exactly, the cojones to make a good Spider-Man movie. Just send those emails. Unless you split them directly down the middle and then one gets like... Half a brain and half a ball.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Yeah, like the left brain that's like, you know, the left side of the brain is more creative or whatever, the right side's the analytical yeah you know what i mean yeah it's interesting you're talking about balls yeah you get one kahuna each is what i'm saying you get one analytical ball one passionate creative ball i get it anyway where would you like this to go i mean ideally i guess they'd sort it out but yeah what would you i don't think this is done either i think yeah if it's not going to be sorted
Starting point is 00:14:05 in the short term uh-huh maybe we'll get a couple of years and then they'll figure something out anyway what are you gonna say it's a really good question i feel i feel like i would like one more movie in the regular marvel universe where we establish what this character is in the marvel universe by himself does this mean they're going to recast like your Aunt May's? I don't know. I don't think so. I mean, they've still got Tom Holland, so I assume not. I feel like this sense of dread that they're just going to go, okay, you know what people are going to want with this new Sony Spider-Man movie?
Starting point is 00:14:34 Origin of Spider-Man. We're going to see that Origin of Spider-Man. We're going to see the death of Uncle Ben. I think looking at Spider-Verse, they've now realised that. Well, if they get the Spider-Verse, guys, somehow. Somehow, yeah. I think they're doing, what are they doing at the moment? I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:14:47 I was going to say Star Wars. No, they got kicked off of Star Wars. They were doing Solo or whatever. But anyway, we'll see, won't we? We sure will. Anyway, Sony haven't made a good movie this year other than this. Okay. I say, also there's that Jungle, Jumanji 3, 3 Manji.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Yeah. It's coming out. So there's that. 2 Manji, 3 Manji. Yeah, yeah. It's coming out. So there's that. Twa Manji. Twa Manji, yeah. But Manaja Manji? I don't know. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Anyway. Do Manja Twa. There we go. I've done it. Got there. I feel like we go through a few and then you always get the one that's like, no, I'm saying it's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:15:24 We just need time for your brain to kind of kick into gear. Just rattle a few ideas around there. That's right. There's no bad ideas in brainstorming. It's true. But look at what they've done, like Men in Black and some other stuff. Not good. Good.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Anyway. Why are they still in business? Well, I don't know. Hasn't there been rumours? Films. Films. Like 35mm films. Oh, is that right?
Starting point is 00:15:46 They're still selling a truckload of those to youngsters. They're video games. They are video games. Oh, yeah, they are video games. That's true. I forgot, the PlayStation 4. PlayStation 4 and soon to be 5. Oh, speaking of Sony though, Dan Trachtenberg has left the Uncharted movie,
Starting point is 00:15:59 which also stars Tom Holland as Nate Drake. It is not Tom Holland's week, is it? No, I don't think he cares. Does he? No, I don't think so. Maybe he doesn't. Probably hasn't noticed yet. No, he hasn't.
Starting point is 00:16:10 He's too busy. Somebody's handed him a really expensive vase. And he's like, oh, no. Dad Trachtenberg did 10 Cloverfield Lane. I was trying to remember what he did, which I quite enjoy. That's a good one. Also born in 1981, same age as you, but he's done so much more, Mason.
Starting point is 00:16:28 I mean, arguably. So much more. Anyway, anything else to say about Uncharted? No, really. I mean, this tweet just, speaking of Spider-Man, this tweet here just says, James Cameron would have made a Spider-Man movie in the 90s if it weren't for the fact that several different companies
Starting point is 00:16:40 claimed they were the rightful owners of the film rights to the character. Good. Yes. Because then we got the Maguire stuff. I did a tweet, though, and it got a little bit of traction. Oh, hello. It went viral big time. It might be on the cover of Time magazine.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Tweet of the year? Tweet of the year. And then it's a mirror, and you were the tweet of the year. What a cop-out. No, it was, they should make Spider-Man 4 with Tobey Maguire. Oh, yeah. Why not? Yeah, sure. Why not? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Why not? Anyway, Bond has a new title. It's Bond, No Time to Die. No time to die. No time to die. And it's also, as someone pointed out on Twitter, it's the same font as the Love Boat font. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Right? Pretty good, right? Is there some crossover casting in the Love Boat? Oh, there's Herve Villages yeah I was gonna say no he was the other one he was on Fantasy Island the other one yes
Starting point is 00:17:29 yeah so but I'm sure there is absolutely yeah I saw an interview with Phoebe Waller-Bridge where she was
Starting point is 00:17:36 because she's doing some script punch-ups for this and they were like are you excited for your Bond film or whatever and she's like
Starting point is 00:17:40 it's not my Bond film it's not my Bond film that's a bad sign that's a very bad sign she's like, it's not my Bond film. It's not my Bond film. That's a bad sign. That's a very bad sign. She's like, anything to do with it is not me. So good to hear, I guess. Yeah, that's the notes of somebody. That's the quote from somebody who's been sending in punch-up notes.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Yeah. And they've been getting the script back the next day. It's the same. We know someone, I'll tell you, there was a sketch show in Australia. It was very, very bad. I forgot about it until recently same we know someone i'll tell you there was a sketch show in australia it was very very bad i forgot about it until recently which ones i'll tell you later okay but someone we know is listed as the head writer on that show yeah but basically what happened is every day some they would send him the scripts and he would go okay change this change this change this change this there's no joke here why don't you add a joke there's no jokes in it what do you do a joke yeah why don't you maybe do a joke and then he would send submit resubmit those scripts and they would come back the next day
Starting point is 00:18:28 and they were exactly the same like they'd taken out everything he'd added but he's the head all right but yeah okay that's that's is that a bad sign then i don't know i think it's just she probably did some punch-ups yeah right i mean there's gonna be a few bloody punch-ups in that movie let me tell you that much there've got to believe it there's going to be a man in a tiny skinny jacket no he uses his big no he uses his big fighting jacket doesn't he
Starting point is 00:18:50 for fights he does that's true yeah so there you go I guess I'm sort of looking forward to this me too yeah
Starting point is 00:18:56 he says it's going to be a stand alone Bond adventure right is it or is it like Bond you forgot that your father's here too
Starting point is 00:19:04 I forgot yeah Christoph Holtz is in it like Bond? You forgot that your father's here too. Oh no, I forgot. Yeah, Christoph Holtz is in it again. Yeah, he is. You forgot your father's here too and your father didn't die on the chairlift. He became the head of the mountain. He became the chairlift. He just kept going up that mountain on the chairlift and he's only just returned on the chairlift.
Starting point is 00:19:20 And here he is! Oh, he's going back down again. Destiny Bond. Anyway, Breaking Bad has a trailer for the movie. It's called El Camino. Yeah. All it is is Skinny Pete being like, I ain't seen no Jesse Pinkman. If I did, I'd be like, no, thank you.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Never in your life I'll tell you where he is. And he definitely doesn't over the course of that trailer. He does not. I'm jazzed for this Mason yeah Breaking Bad movie Netflix October 11th
Starting point is 00:19:48 it's coming up do you want to do a Breaking Bad episode the week before maybe do a Breaking Bad episode yes I want to do a rewatch anyway so this is a good excuse
Starting point is 00:19:53 do we know is Walter White involved he's in it by that I mean Bryan Cranston yes okay he's in it
Starting point is 00:19:58 presumably flashbacks yes presumably flashbacks but then again maybe he did live well we did we didn't see him we didn't see his heart stop in his chest. That's true.
Starting point is 00:20:07 We didn't see it stop beating. We didn't see a doctor standing over him with maybe like an electrocardiogram going like, this man is definitely dead. He's been dead three days. He's been dead so long, there is no chance to revive him. I mean, we did see that, but then the doctor turned to the camera and he gave a big wink to the audience. That's true. Even if that happened, you'd be like, well, you could have to the camera and he gave a big wink to the audience. That's true.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Even if that happened, you'd be like, well, you could have paid that doctor to slow his heart rate or whatever. Exactly. Using snake venom of some sort. Yeah. You can only find in Albuquerque, New Mexico. I'm very excited for this. Me too.
Starting point is 00:20:39 And if Better Call Saul hadn't been fantastic, I guess I'd be less excited for it, but it is fantastic. So your jacket, your buttons are shining right in my eyes. That's the plan. Can you take that off or roll it back or something? No, it's all right. It's killing me. I was like, is this going to – because then when you shift,
Starting point is 00:20:58 I'm like, oh, thank God. Then a different button gets me. You should take a photo for the gram. It's a good jacket. I'm a beautiful golden boy. It's a really nice jacket. Is it a new – I asked you, it's a good jacket i'm a beautiful golden boy it's a really nice jacket is it a new i asked you it's a new jacket it's got a real shine to it boy doesn't it but it's a nice jacket i polish those buttons so do you use like a leather like a leather uh like a wipe down to get that leather crisp and new no no that new leather flavor no what are you talking about uh breaking bad there we go yeah
Starting point is 00:21:28 i had a conversation with my mom the other day she was like better call saul no good no she's wrong your mom's wrong well i've got her on the show okay we've watched like i've watched like two episodes so i really that's really good i mean it's you know it's it's a slow burn like oh yeah that's exactly the issue yeah yeah well Your mum's like a millennial, mate. No time for anything. Exactly. Seven-minute attention span. Next up, we've got The Matrix 4.
Starting point is 00:21:52 It's officially happening. We reported on this a few weeks back. And Lana Wachowski is involved. Only Lana Wachowski. But not the other Wachowski. Not the other Wachowski, whose name I have no idea of. Correct. Returning to direct, Carrie-Anne Moss will return, as will Keanu Reeves.
Starting point is 00:22:03 The only two characters that died at the end of the last one. That's true. Unless you count Cypher or Tank off screen. Yep. Next week is our 300th episode. Do you want to do the Matrix movies? A few people have said. Yeah, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Okay, I'll re-watch the Matrix movies. We'll still do our bloody Subiro showdown soon after that. Okay, let's do it. It sounds really good, doesn't it, to do that? Yeah. Good excuse to re-watch these. How much kicking, how much punching? Why not both Wachowskis?
Starting point is 00:22:30 Is it going to be the real Neo or the real Trinity that returns or have they uploaded their consciousness into a Matrix or a Squib? That's a really good question, and I wonder if they're going to use some elements of the Matrix online. Is any of that canonical still? No. Okay, good. No.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I mean, I don't know. But no. Because in the online game, apparently there was- I love online games. Me too. But it emerged in that universe that there was a third faction. So there were humans, there was the machines, and there was also some humans, like a separate set of humans humans that had made a deal with the machines before the Great War.
Starting point is 00:23:08 And they're like, we're going to hang out over here. Leave us alone. Leave us alone, don't bother us. But they could upload their minds into the Matrix, but their bodies were degrading. And so the whole thing behind Neo and Trinity, if I remember correctly, was that Neo was, they were some sort of ultimate, like,
Starting point is 00:23:26 version of DNA and coding or something like that, and they were going to be, like, the templates for these other humans to, like, create new bodies. Okay, right. But that never emerged because, again, nobody played that game, so they stopped making it. It got cancelled forever or whatever. Yeah, it got cancelled forever, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:42 That's interesting, though, because he did, Neo didn't die, he got uploaded into the big face. Yeah, exactly, and then they float his body away He got cancelled forever or whatever. Yeah, he got cancelled forever, yeah. That's interesting, though, because Neo didn't die. He got uploaded into the big face. Yeah, exactly, and then they float his body away and we never see it again. So they could just bring it back and go, yeah, we fixed it, he's got eyes again. Well, exactly, yeah. Because, again, in the online game,
Starting point is 00:23:55 one of the missions was like, all these bits have been scattered about the universe. Collect all these bits. Collect all these bits. Yeah. You got one kahone. Exactly, so maybe they'll collect all his bits and he'll be back. Yeah. I don't think they're going to do a collect his bits. Collect all his bits. Yeah. You've got one kahone. Exactly. So maybe they'll collect all his bits and he'll be back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I don't think they're going to do a collect his bits. I think it's going to be like 30 minutes into the movie and they're going to be like, he's back. And he's going to be doing karate kicks and they're going to be like, he's still got it. I mean, why is he doing karate kicks? He doesn't need to because he can do anything. They're going to have to pare him back a bit.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Yeah. Or he's back and he's like, I don't remember anything. I don't remember how to use the Matrix. Yeah, that's probably true. You know what I mean? Exactly. And then he has to become the one again or whatever. Well, I mean, they pared him down in three.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Remember the train man beats him up? Oh, yeah, because it was in a different whatever. Different dimension something, yeah. Yeah. Different dimension something. Yeah. You're right. He was in different dimension station, if you recall.
Starting point is 00:24:42 I think these movies, without having watched them in a long time, will hold up to the mech fight where I'm like, who cares? Yeah, absolutely. Who cares about any of these mech fights? I think the interpersonal stuff was way better than the mech fight. Exactly, yeah. Yeah, we'll talk about it next week. Interesting fact also.
Starting point is 00:24:59 I read this recently. Do you remember the character Switch in the first one? She wore all white. White hair as well? Yes. And she's like, not like this. And then she gets unplugged by Cypher, yeah. Apparently in the original script,
Starting point is 00:25:11 she was going to be a man in the real world and a lady in the Matrix. Hence the name. And you're wondering whether they'll bring elements of that into this. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, because, you know, obviously the wachowskis are trans women so the question and apparently there's a lot of like queer theory in the matrix movies which of course i didn't pick up on none of us did we just saw the shooting and the punching and i thought it was just kicks me too is it still just kicks can i still get i think it might be more than just
Starting point is 00:25:40 kicks i think i don't want to i'm only up to the kids would you say it's political correctness gone man that's what i'm saying yeah but in retrospect which is the worst kind i know there were less the kicks were less important than i thought they had me all along yeah yeah that's interesting if they're going to introduce any of that they're definitely definitely going to do it now i think that'd be i think that'd be fun and interesting and cool yeah but it's it's also PC gone mad. But also they should do that. They should totally. Also, it's what people do online. They pretend to be other people.
Starting point is 00:26:10 You can be whoever you want. It's the same thing. Also, they should bring back Jada Pinkett Smith. No. I'm just kidding. No? I'm going to say no. Yeah, good call.
Starting point is 00:26:20 She should bring back her partner. Ghost. Yes. I was going to say Asian guy with sunglasses, but he has a name. Yes. And it is? Ghost. Yes. I was going to say Asian guy with sunglasses, but he has a name. Yes. And it is? Ghost? Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I'd already forgotten. From the Matrix video game. Well, that was his power. You always forgot about it. Into the Matrix. Yeah. Come into a room and the agents are just like, we don't know him. Again, another one of the guys who wears white.
Starting point is 00:26:39 It was a wise one, remember? Oh, was he? Yeah. Did he? I don't remember. From time to time he wore white, yeah. Good on him. Can't believe we're already in an ad.
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Starting point is 00:29:35 Or it still is. It might still be going. So maybe there's some huge news that we've missed. Oh, okay. Should I check Twitter just in case? Never check Twitter, mate. It'll only make you cry. I'd only be looking for your tweets anyway.
Starting point is 00:29:44 That's true. So if you're not. uh yeah i can do a quick quick gigs now but in the meantime huge news let's just get rid of the stuff up top that our listeners i assume don't care about or it's really you this is based on things you don't care about okay here we go noel which is the i don't know what that is some kind of sequel to fred Oh Remember Fred Claus Vince Vaughn Yeah Fred Claus Yeah okay No it's
Starting point is 00:30:07 It's the daughter Son and Bill Hader And Anna Kendrick Are the children of Santa And Bill Hader's The new Santa But he's like
Starting point is 00:30:16 I don't want to be Santa Anna Kendrick could be Santa That's right But then she has to go And get Santa But maybe she should be The Santa But I'm sure it's like
Starting point is 00:30:23 Santa can't be a woman Because PC got mad Absolutely And then at the end They're like, Santa can't be a woman because PC got mad. Absolutely. And then at the end they're like, you're the new Santa. She's like, PC got mad and I love it. Lady and the Tramp. It's Lady and the Tramp. Dogs.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Looks fine. What is that? Two dogs. Now I know what dogs are. Two dogs. Is it live action and animated dogs? Live action and animated mouths it seems. Okay, right.
Starting point is 00:30:43 So it's a real world which is good yes so um corella deville oh yeah the origin of corella deville who's that again emma stone i thought she'd kind of ease into the look but she's straight up yeah whatever uh and she's like and people like oh my god why is she so mean she just is she's just mean some people are mean do you want do you want to give her – what direction do you think that's going to go in? Just weird slapstick? I think she'll have some, like, good qualities. She wanted to skin a bunch of dogs.
Starting point is 00:31:14 We all want to skin a bunch of dogs. Like 100 dogs. Too many dogs for one. 101. I feel there's no – you shouldn't attempt to – Like 100 dogs. Like you don't know it's 101. 101 dogs.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Didn't she attempt to get 102 dogs the next time around? Yeah, that's true. She did. So it's like 100 dogs, isn't it? Shouldn't it be 202 Dalmatians is the sequel? Like you've seen 101 Dalmatians, but imagine if you saw 102. 100 more being birthed. No, it is.
Starting point is 00:31:40 But they went with imagine if you saw one more dog. Could you handle that? Maybe that's the breaking point. Maybe they did market research and they went with, imagine if you saw one more dog. Could you handle that? Maybe that's the breaking point. Maybe they did market research and they're like, the human mind can only conceive of 101 dogs. If you, listen, Walt, dude, I'm warning you, I'm a professional, and I'm saying do not add a single more Dalmatian to this movie, Walt. And then he was like, while I live, I will not add another one.
Starting point is 00:32:04 And then he died and they're like. Ready to go. There's a glass case on the wall and it's like. Just got a dog in it. Yeah, it's got one more dog in it. But don't give any redeeming value. Don't Maleficent this. Don't give any redeeming qualities.
Starting point is 00:32:14 That's what we're getting. This feels like a throwback to what they used to be doing. Like, gritty, it's Alice in Wonderland, but before or after. I can't remember what those movies are. I mean, make it more of like a, if you made it like this, you know, like a Rick, Rick and Morty, where it's like a horrible character that you can't help be like,
Starting point is 00:32:31 oh, their life's so wild kind of thing. And I'm kind of on board with this rollercoaster of how bad of a person they are. Yeah, absolutely. I guess that would be fun. But if you're like, oh, she was just sad and tortured and she had a puppy when she was a kid
Starting point is 00:32:41 and then the puppy got taken away with a pound and now she just wants to wear puppies. That is definitely what it is. That's what I thought. She looks like Beetlejuice, and that's good. And there's a portly man on a scooter behind her. Oh, yes. Do we recognize the actor?
Starting point is 00:32:54 No. Okay. I can't see. And she's got three dogs with her. Man, this really is a prequel. Went from three to 101. Three dogs, yeah. There we go.
Starting point is 00:33:02 So the other thing is Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur is coming to the Disney channel that's fun animated yep that's cool Ray of the Last Dragon is a Disney animated thing they showed some concept art
Starting point is 00:33:12 for that and Lizzie McGuire returns oh older and wiser older and wiser they're doing that aren't they she's got a gun that is wise
Starting point is 00:33:19 yeah this is like there were shades of Veronica Mars I guess did she have a gun when she came back yeah she does have a gun now because she's older and wiser. And brings a gun.
Starting point is 00:33:26 And brings a gun. So apparently this version of Lizzie, so it's the same animated. I didn't actually watch Lizzie McGuire, but she has like, it's Lizzie McGuire and she had like an animated version of herself that lived in her head. And I think this version, it's like the teenage version still. Oh, okay. So the version in her head hasn't grown up.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Right. Hilarity ensues. Is this like, we were talking about this before the show, is this a Bobby's World situation? Is this a part live action, part animated? No, I think it's, I think. Where Howie Mandel imagines an animated family or whatever? No, I think it's just the, actually, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Maybe animated Lizzie McGuire has animated friends. I don't know. Is it Elizabeth McGuire? I don't know. Or is it Lizb has animated friends. I don't know. Is it Elizabeth McGuire? I don't know. Or is it Lizbeth? It might be Lizbeth. Could be Liz Erkenstein. Yep.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Yeah, that's all I'm saying. Anyway, there's other things that they're releasing in animated whatever. They rolled out kind of how the Disney Plus app looks. Australia's getting in November, which is nice. Like a week after, which is good. UK's next year, which sucks for them, but I don't live there anymore. That's right. So that's good for me.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Yeah. But so, which it's kind of strange. It must be like an issue with who owns what Disney properties in the UK. It must be, yeah. Yeah, I'd imagine. So I'm getting this day one. It's so much of this stuff I'm just 100% on board for. For sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Yeah. And let's go through some of it. Is it all being released in the one chunk or is all this WandaVision Falcon stuff, is it all coming out? That hasn't started filming yet, I believe. Okay, right. None of the Marvel shows I think of this year.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I think the first one is, might be Loki next year, I want to say. But it's not a case of we're going to get him when we get him. It's not going to be like surprise. He's every Marvel. Yeah. It's going to open with the Mandalorian,
Starting point is 00:35:03 like 500 Disney movies, some other stuff. Okay. And I think Captain Marvel is going to be on there straight away. Yeah, cool. All right. Probably all the other ones. Yeah. Movies.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Also, so we've got just some information regarding Falcon and the Winter Soldier. I'm ready. Wyatt Russell, who was Kurt Russell's son. He plays Kurt Russell's son in real life.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Yeah. He's also in Overlord. Did you ever see that? No, I never got around to Overlord. Russell's son. He plays Kurt Russell's son in real life. Yeah. He was also in Overlord. Did you ever see that? No, I never got around to Overlord. Okay. He's going to be a US agent, right? Who I believe is either, I was going to say Jack Daniels, but it's John Walker. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:35 He's an alcoholic beverage of some sort. Yes. So. Yes. Good guy or bad guy? Oh, in this one. Depending on the version. I think he, my guess would be in this, he is the guy,
Starting point is 00:35:47 he's also attempting to acquire the shield. I'd imagine he's the US government choice for Captain America. Yes, I think so too, yeah. So he'll be like, obviously, I think it might be a case of like, well, Captain America is technically US government property, so the shield is our property kind of thing. So I reckon he'll attempt to get it and then... Maybe he'll get it for a bit.
Starting point is 00:36:08 All three of them will beat each other up for a while and then they'll have some mutual respect and he'll be like, guess what, I'm US agent now, which I think will be fun. I mean, I'm sure they could go with, well, he's just a guy in a uniform with a gun, like an army uniform with a gun, but I would hope that they would. When did he come into being, that character? He came into being, there was a storyline
Starting point is 00:36:28 where Captain America gave up being Captain America because he didn't believe in the US government's values, man. He became Nomad America. Yeah, he became Nomad and Super Soldier was one of those. And then this guy took over as Captain America and then Captain America's like, I want to come back, baby. And then he became a US agent. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:48 I like White Russell a lot. And there's definitely shades of- I wouldn't recognize him if I fell over him. Does he look like Kurt Russell? A little bit, yeah. Okay, all right. He's got the hair and the chin, though. He's blonde.
Starting point is 00:36:57 He's in the Black Mirror episode where he goes into a spooky game. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, sure. Okay, I get it. But there's shades of the thing in Overlord. Oh, I see. There's definitely parallels. You should watch it.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Okay, I'm going to watch it. It's good, yeah. I'm going to watch it. It starts as like a kind of espionage, sneaky, sneaky World War II movie. Yes. And then it's an insane monster movie. Cool.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Which is, you know, like the thing starts as one thing and then becomes dogs and stuff. Many things start as one thing but become another thing. Yeah. Like dogs. Like dogs or trees. Yep.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Yeah. Those are two good examples. Those are two good examples. So the difference between Captain America and U.S. Agent in the comic books is U.S. Agent is way stronger. Like in the comic books, Captain America is just like a regular, he's the peak of human power. But like U.S. agent can lift like 10 tons. But Captain America's got heart and US agent has also heart, but he can lift 10 tons.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Yeah, a much bigger and larger heart. Okay. What kind of serums has he got? Has he got like Hulk serum? No, he went to the power broker, who's like a guy who can just give you generic powers if you like give him enough money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:00 So that's what he got. So I don't know, but again, movie Captain America is just heaps strong. We don't know what his deal is. Let's think about that because he can kick a car at standstill and it will like shift sideways. If it hits another man, that man will go flying. That's true. So he's kind of beyond.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Yeah. So I imagine this US agent might be like a product of whatever the government's current super soldier program is. Fair enough. Sounds good. I like it. I'm into it. He might get a laser shield at the end. Get him a laser shield. Get him one. Get that man a laser shield. Did you see the Avengers game
Starting point is 00:38:36 footage? Yes, I did. What did you think of it? I don't like the designs too much. They're growing on me a little bit. I don't care. I just want it to play well. I don't care what they look like. I don't care who's in it. There's no. Yeah, but I don't care. I just wanted to play well. I don't care. I don't care what they look like. I don't care who's in it. Did you see the game? There's no Hawkeye, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:38:48 I think they're going to roll out some characters. I saw a lot of tweets that were like, oh my God, I can't believe they killed Captain America. I wanted to play as Captain America and he's dead. Stop it. It's coming back. Stop it. Come on.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Also, if he's not coming back. It's just a comic book universe. We didn't see him. Again, we didn't see a doctor go, well, the helicarrier went directly through him, and I'm a doctor, so I know. But then who's that doctor we're working for? Exactly, Hydra, probably.
Starting point is 00:39:09 He's probably a clone, and the helicarrier's a clone. That's right. They're all clones. Yeah. Yeah, because they've built the mechanics of Captain America fighting style with the shield. They're either going to bring in somebody else to take over, because they're not going to build that for a four-minute section
Starting point is 00:39:24 of the game. And they don't want a fan-favorite character to be unplayable in any given sequel or what have you. Because they want you to pay for it probably. Exactly. They say no DLC or whatever. No, sorry, no microtransactions or whatever, but we'll see. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:39 What do you think of the gameplay, though? Yeah, good. I mean, apparently the guy who built the Thor mechanics worked on God of War okay which is that throw the thing and return the thing it looks a bit on rails well that first bit is a tutorial essentially okay right well it opens up to like hub worlds and you can revisit places it's a bit what i'm jedi fallen order is doing okay i'm super jazzed for when they're going to release that so i can play it mason i have no idea because i don't care about november 11th but uh there But there's a sequence in that level where the Hulk's jumping across a bridge
Starting point is 00:40:07 and you really get a sense of the scale. It's really, really very cool. What do you give it out of 10? The bridge? Yeah. I mean, I would have given it like 9 out of 10 just for like accurate bridgeness, but it was smashed into little bits.
Starting point is 00:40:21 So 10 out of 10. That's right. The only good bridge is a smashed bridge? Yeah, and there's a little truck and it's like timely transport or something like that. I don't get that reference, but that's okay, isn't it? Taskmaster's in it. It's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:40:35 I don't get that reference either, Mason. Iron Man? Isn't it just? Yeah, that's true, yeah. Absolutely it is, yeah. I've read them all. You better believe you have. They're all my favourites. I believe you, yeah. Absolutely it is, yeah. I've read them all. You better believe you have, yeah. They're all my favourites.
Starting point is 00:40:45 I believe you, yeah. You couldn't even pick a favourite. This is an old footage, but did you see Trump talking about his favourite Bible passage? Yes, I did, yeah. I couldn't pick. Just say you don't have one. You don't have to lie. Who even has a favourite Bible passage?
Starting point is 00:41:00 I mean, people do, obviously. It's Ezekiel 25, 17, the one that doesn't exist. Obviously. Just say, thou shalt not steal. Just say that. Just say the commandments. When the bit where he's like... Do not covet thy neighbor's oxen.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Yes. Do you like the Old Testament or the New Testament? Equal. Great. Good work. Anyway, the Eternals. Hang on. Do you have any more thoughts about Avengers the game?
Starting point is 00:41:22 Are you going to get it? You got Spider-Man. You got Spider-Man, yeah. Yeah. And isn't that what it's all about? Yes. Also, Insomniac, who made the Spider-Man game, was recently bought by Sony.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I know what that means. But also, that version of Taskmaster in the game, where you fight as Black Widow, doesn't look like the same version from the Spider-Man version. So maybe they're not the same universe. Oh, right, okay. Who cares? Maybe different hair, though. Maybe she's the same universe. All right, okay. Who cares? Maybe different hair, though.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Maybe she's wearing a mask. I meant Taskmaster. Oh, I see, right. He's wearing a mask. Yeah, he is. We've got different masks. Yeah, but again, I don't care. I just want it to play well.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I don't care. The Eternals. Gemma Chan has been confirmed as Cersei. Okay. And Kit Harington is the Black Knight. Oh, see, I saw some rumors earlier in the week that were like, Kit Harington's in the Marvel Universe. And a lot of people were like, Wolverine, he's Wolverine,
Starting point is 00:42:08 because he's got facial hair. Let's do this. It's like, I can't wait to play just a happy-go-lucky character in not a black outfit without a sword. Sword, exactly, yeah. I hope there's no prophecies or curses or... What's his deal? You know stuff about this stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:22 I believe he has a cursed sword, and it's one of those ones where if you draw it... get rid of it just get rid of it mate oh yeah sure you could keep it in your closet or something yeah keep it in it keep it in the boot of your car does it yell at you if you keep it in the closet though i might it might scream at you wake up yeah exactly well that'll be handy you can be like you could negotiate with it you can be like yeah that's true it'd be like, if you could start yelling at me at 9am because I've got to go to work. So,
Starting point is 00:42:48 but I think it's one of those sorts where if you, if you draw it, you have to kill somebody with it. Oh, one of those ones. Yeah, you have to draw blood otherwise you can't put it back
Starting point is 00:42:56 or something. I don't know. I'm going to look it up. Then I'll put it in the cupboard. I don't care. I won't put it back. It might even be one of those guys that was, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:02 a medieval knight but then he was cursed back in the day and now he's immortal or something like that. Oh, boo. I don't know a lot of Black Knight. I think there's been a few as well.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Yeah, probably. Okay. Well, his name's Dane Whitman, so I don't think he was a medieval knight. Well, he can change his name. It's true. Sir Dane of Whitman. Sir Dane of Whitman, yeah. He's founder of the Whitman Chocolates Factory.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Okay, well, he was born in Gloucester, Massachusetts. Okay. So the first Black Knight was his ancestor. It's a family line, it looks like. He's been in the Avengers. There's a blood curse. The Ebony Blade, which he wields, is cursed. Every time it draws blood, it drives its user closer to madness.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Ah. Okay. Right. So if I remember correctly, in the 90s, there was all of him, like, clocking people with the pommel of the sword. Okay, yeah. Because he couldn't kill them. Also, in the 90s, whenever, like, the Punisher teamed up with Spider-Man,
Starting point is 00:43:54 that was when the Punisher would break out the nunchucks or whatever. Yes. Because he couldn't just machine gun people to death in a family-friendly comic book. So he looks like his helmet is a cross between, like, Thor and, like, maybe, like, Nova or Magneto. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's interesting. He's been in the Heroes for hire. So he looks like his helmet is a cross between Thor and maybe Nova? Yeah. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:44:09 He's been in the Heroes for Hire. He was in Excalibur. He's in MI13, which is like British Avengers. Yeah, right. Okay, cool. Did you see the costumes as well? They're revealed. Very colourful.
Starting point is 00:44:21 A little bit generic. That's fine. It's concept art from a distance. Yeah, that's true. But at least they're different colors. Yep. And Richard Madden's in it also, who is also from Game of Thrones. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Two Kings of the North Mason. Ooh. So there you go. Anyway, that's the next one we're getting after Black Widow, I believe. But I don't know. I see. And I'll never know. They also confirmed Black Panther 2 for 2022. The first sequel we've seen in this group that was just a numbered sequel.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Didn't get a subtitle. That's true, actually. Why do you think that is? Because the only other movies they do that for is Iron Man. Maybe they don't want to reveal too many secrets. That could very well be true. I mean, if they called it Black Panther 2, Eric Killmonger's back. And so is Claw.
Starting point is 00:45:05 They run an ice cream stand together. But just his arm. Yeah. Also, WandaVision, Kat Dennings has joined, as has Randall Park. Apparently it's going to be a comedy, like sitcom-esque, and then it's going to lean into more weirder and darker stuff as it kind of moves along. I see.
Starting point is 00:45:19 How is bloody that FBI agent and Darcy from Thor, how are they going to team up? One's a scientist's assistant or something. Yep. And one of them's a... Somewhat inept FBI agent. What are they going to do? The perfect combination.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Ice cream stand. A competing ice cream stand. Not everybody has to have an ice cream stand. Well, in this case, there are two groups of people with competing ice cream stands. These two and whoever I said mere moments ago that I've forgotten about. You're using that old economics kind of story of like, if there's an ice cream van on These two and whoever I said mere moments ago that I've forgotten about. You're using that old economics kind of story of like,
Starting point is 00:45:47 if there's an ice cream van on the beach and it's... Yeah, exactly. Who were the other two people I said? I can't remember. No, that was the first one you said. Chlorine. There we go. Chlorine Killmonger.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Okay, yes. Okay, cool. All right. So that's cool. I like the way that's going to go. It sounds kind of Legion-esque, which I may have said before. Yeah, right. It kind of twists into a different thing.
Starting point is 00:46:09 The other thing they mentioned or they showed off is Black Widow, or should I say White Widow, Mason? You can say White Widow. They showed a White Widow Black Widow costume. So what do you think of that? Not very practical, is it? Not very stealthy, hard to get out the blood. That's right.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Maybe this is what she wears when she promises not to kill anyone. It's her version of the nunchucks. Okay, right. You still kill someone with a nunchuck. Yeah, absolutely. You make them eat it. Yep. Or even this suit.
Starting point is 00:46:35 If someone ate this big leather white suit, you'd probably die eating it. Absolutely. Like a zip would get stuck on your tonsils. You'd certainly get bloated, wouldn't you? Yeah, you definitely would. You're not passing that either. No, constipated. You know there was that guy who used to eat stuff,
Starting point is 00:46:47 like he'd slowly eat a bicycle or a train over like many weeks? Yeah. Do something else. Absolutely do something else. Do you think he was one of those guys that feels compelled to eat things? There is that. Yeah, there's like the people who eat like terracotta. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:47:03 And then they ruin their teeth. Because it's like a textural thing maybe. Don't do that. How would you even do that? Break it into small. Well, I guess if you powdered it. But also, I don't even feel it counts. Like I think that's something anybody could do,
Starting point is 00:47:16 but people don't do it because it's dumb. Like the Guinness World Records for the man who can like run fastest backwards, jump on like a frog or whatever. Or grow the longest fingernails. Yeah, just don't do it. What are you doing? You're the only one doing this. Everybody else thinks it's yuck.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Yeah, you got it. It's yours. Don't do it. Anyway, Black Widow, or should I say White Widow? You should say White Widow. Is that Taskmaster related? Because, again, he does have a white costume. Maybe it is.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Maybe they're on the same team. Maybe it throws off the bloody, like he can't copy his tasks. It's like that button on your thing situation where it's shining in your eyes. Oh, I see, right. I can't copy you because I'm blinded by a beautiful white suit. I'm so distracted by this.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Where did you get it? Do you have a discount code? I must know. Is it Weekly Planet Pod, wherever it is? I love that discount code. I'll put it anywhere. Put it in any website. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:48:07 The other thing we got is an image of Peggy Carter as Captain Britain, which gives us a hint of the animation style. Yes. Which is good. Well, I mean the animation style for that particular. Well, that's true. We don't know if there's a whole bunch of different styles. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:18 But they may have the same exact style. They have the same style, yeah. Apparently they also showed some stuff of, what's his name, the Marvel Zombies guy, Darren Zombie, who runs the Marvel Zombie universe. That's cool. I'm kind of speeding through this, but I don't really know where it has to stay about those things.
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Starting point is 00:49:29 Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Only in theaters May 10. Tickets on sale now. Big stuff, though. The big news, I would say. The big reveals. Here we go. Ms. Marvel will be a TV series.
Starting point is 00:49:46 That character is also going to make her way into the movies. So this is live action. Yes. I mean, a lot of the confusion, if you're not there, we've been shown a lot of logos of various projects. And we're like, are these animated or live action? But apparently a lot of these are going to be, at least they're going to have the option of being integrated into the larger Marvel Cinematic Universe.
Starting point is 00:50:04 So Ms. Marvel. Ms. Marvel. That's pretty cool. So which is, I wonder if they're going to do the, she takes on the Carol Danvers look. Well, yeah, I mean, so the comic book Ms. Marvel is inspired by Captain Marvel. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:18 So I guess the question is, are we going to get, are we getting another Captain Marvel movie? Because we have, there's been a. There's been no announcement, but probably. Yeah, I mean, that would suggest that we have, Are we getting another Captain Marvel movie? Because there's been a... There's been no announcement, but probably. Yeah, I mean, that would suggest that there's going to be a Captain Marvel movie with Captain Marvel set on Earth. Yes. Because then she can be on Earth and she can inspire other people
Starting point is 00:50:34 and then she inspires Kamala Khan to be Ms. Marvel. The way that you inspire me. To be Ms. Marvel. Yes. Correct, yeah. Yeah, that's right. And so she doesn't want to be a superhero the way that she looks. So that's the idea initially.
Starting point is 00:50:50 And also to hide her identity. And then she's like, hey, I can grow a big rubber hand. So I'm sticking with this. Yeah. Do you think they're going to do Terrigen Mist? I think they want to keep as far away from the Inhumans as humanly possible. Keep them on the moon is what you're saying? Yeah, keep them on the moon or wherever they are. Keep them on the moon is what you're saying? Yeah, keep them on the moon or whatever.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Keep them on the moon, yeah. Why? We actually got the other ones we didn't get much information on, but this one is going to be written by Bisha K, who's worked on Four Weddings and a Funeral, the new TV series, which I have not yet seen, and also Sex Education, that Gillian Anderson show on Netflix, which is apparently very good, which I have not seen.
Starting point is 00:51:21 I have also not seen it. So this is cool. I like this. And I should definitely work in Brie Larson's Captain Marvel into, which I have not seen. I have also not seen it. So this is cool. I like this. And I should definitely work in Brie Larson's Captain Marvel into this. I think so too. 100%. And, yeah, I mean, it might be a similar accident that produced Captain Marvel, except instead of laser blasts, it's stretchy arms.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Big fists. Imaginary stretchy arms. What would you do with that? Probably get stuff out of the fridge when I'm in a different room. I'd punch my neighbours. They wouldn't even know I'm doing it. Yeah, nice. But it would be me.
Starting point is 00:51:46 And you'd punch him and then he'd be like, you punched me and you'd be like, I'm way over here, man. I would never punch you. Yeah. And he'd be like, I saw you do it. And you'd be like, oh. I did, but. Yeah, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:51:57 You can't get me. I'll do that thing where I put my hand on your forehead and just step back. I could drown you in a lake from here. I don't live near a lake, but I could do it. That's right. So next up we have uh moon knight yeah there's been a lot of call for moon night forever and a day i guess this is this is the kind of your low budget one of these three well i've said bring back the marvel knights banner which is the yeah that comic yeah and it
Starting point is 00:52:21 was you know a couple of marvel movies got the Marvel Knights treatment, like Ghost Rider. Yes, and Punisher. Warzone, I think, yeah. So I would say, yeah, I mean, they're probably not going to give us like a subline like that, but I mean, yeah, give us a gritty low budget something. Yeah. So people have said Keanu Reeves, do Keanu Reeves.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Okay, yes, because we're in the Reeves nascence or whatever it is. Yeah, and he can kick and punch and whatever. But he's doing Matrix 4. Yeah, but how much kicking and punching is he going to be doing that? But he's doing John Wick 4 probably. Yeah, how much kicking and punching is he going to be doing that? So much. No, it'll all be headshots.
Starting point is 00:52:52 I don't think – I mean, it makes sense like marketing-wise to get Keanu Reeves. Uh-huh. But is it too obvious? Yeah, maybe. Because you want a guy who's believable as like an ex-military man yeah you want a guy who's believably crazy yeah you know guy who's believably a taxi driver they were all keanu reeves things that's true i wouldn't do all this i'm not saying it would i wouldn't be upset if you did it yeah yeah i maybe would prefer an unknown yes like the way
Starting point is 00:53:21 they did charlie cox for daredevil to be fair he wasn't unknown he'd been in stuff but he was a kind of a you know yeah he'd done stardust and i think he did a moby dick tally movie and some other things yeah there's a cafe in melbourne called charlie cox is that true yep is it based on him i think so cool all the waiters have like masks around their eyes can't see anything must be a terrible place yeah no it no, it's really good. Hot chocolate, Mason. Yes. Spill it right in your lap. Yep. No, I won't be tipping. That's what I'll say.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Because you've tipped that hot chocolate about that. Moon Knight, though, great. Yep, I like it. So white costume again. I wonder if this one's going to get a bit meta because one of the fairly recent, when I say recent, I mean probably several years old, one of the storylines is that the movie star, because he's got many alternate personalities,
Starting point is 00:54:08 one version is a movie star and he goes to Hollywood to get a Moon Knight movie made. Yeah. This is like Jane Silent Bob reboot or whatever. Or the original one. Maybe make it a bit meta. That would be fun. That would break up the monotony of your Marvel formula, I think.
Starting point is 00:54:21 I would love that, Mason. Yes. I mean, we're getting a big rubbery hand, so. That definitely breaks up the monotony, yeah. Exactly. Except if they bring in the Fantastic Four this time around, in which case it's going to be all big rubbery hands. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Yeah, we haven't had an announcement about that. I was half expecting one. I was fully expecting one. Wow. There you go. Yeah. You say some crazy things. I know.
Starting point is 00:54:41 I can't be stopped. The other thing is uh this is worth mentioning everything on the disney plus service is pg-13 that's the roof so moon knight often breaking a leg kicking a dog whatever he's up to making a movie which can be a bit bloody yeah but this is this isn't this isn't cinematic this is these are these are series as yeah right yeah okay sorry i think data you couldn't do like the Daredevil or the Netflix level of like themes and violence potentially. I mean, but they get, does that mean they get one F-bomb an episode? I assume so.
Starting point is 00:55:14 I'm not sure how it works. I mean, also Disney, I guess they control their platform. They can put on whatever they want. So they make it within a PG boundary, but they can really do anything. Apparently anything that's kind of above this. Yeah. You think we'll get that? I love that.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Do you want to explain that, please? No, you go ahead. Okay. So it's Moon Knight. He's going into Dracula's castle and he says, I know you're here, Dracula, you big fucking nerd. Where's my goddamn money? Now, here's the deal. If you open the series with that that like if you only get one an
Starting point is 00:55:46 episode and they're doing blade so they're doing vampires if you open with that i think everybody would be hooked yeah we're doing caravan of garbage on that comic by the way i think if people like i have no who's moon knight i don't care about moon knight and then you switch it on it was that like no just cold open that he's entering dracula's car like surprise dracula's in this i think i think people will be like I'm on board I don't care how many episodes it is I'm going to watch the whole thing isn't it in their comic also
Starting point is 00:56:08 he thinks that Dracula works for the Avengers and he calls like Spider-Man yeah maybe he's like give me my money and they're like Dracula doesn't work here you fucking idiot we're doing that for Caravan of Garbage
Starting point is 00:56:19 yeah so Moon Knight interesting so I was going to say so the more risque stuff was probably going to go to Hulu. Because there's kind of like, when they relaunched Moon Knight some years ago, there's a very much like Hong Kong action cinema issue. I don't know if you recall, where he has to go up into a tenement building and there's
Starting point is 00:56:40 this long sequence where he just beats people up. Yeah. And he gets very... I've never seen anything like that in a comic. Yeah, right. The way it was framed. Yeah. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:56:48 It's very, and it's very kind of like. It's the way that you. It hits hard, it's quite bloody. It's the way you imagine it, like the fight from, say, the one where he hits people with a hammer in the hallway. Oh, the raid. The raid too, yeah. Oh, yeah, I was going to say old boy.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Okay, right. But yeah, either of those, yeah. The other thing they mentioned is She-Hulk. Yeah. What's really interesting about She-Hulk to me is if this was a movie, I'd go, well, they'd just do what they did with Ruffalo and they'd make someone slightly bigger. But because it's TV, then I'm thinking,
Starting point is 00:57:14 do they just get someone who's really tall and big to do this? But then I'm also thinking they put a lot of money into these so they could just hire whoever they want, which is, I think, the way they should do it. And build some very small sets. Yeah, that's not a bad idea either. Do it Hobbit style. Yeah, that probably wouldn't be a bad idea.
Starting point is 00:57:34 But I think because they're putting so much money into this, I think you'd focus on Jennifer Walters. Jennifer Walters, yeah. You'd focus on getting the best. Barbara Walters. Yeah, who's that? Oh, you'd focus on getting the best Barbara Walters. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:47 And then worrying about the CGI. The way with Mark Ruffalo, it doesn't matter how big he is. That's true. He needs to be a good Bruce Banner and then a good mix of both. Yeah, that's true. How do you see this? Well, I mean, again, it depends on, I mean, as with the Hulk, there's been a number of versions of She-Hulk.
Starting point is 00:58:06 And, you know, there's one particular, you know, that for a long time She-Hulk was like, I'm never changing back into my non-She-Hulk form because I like being the way that I am. So you just have to get someone who looks good as She-Hulk, I guess. Yeah. Okay. And a lot of She-Hulk is also, first of all, like Deadpool,
Starting point is 00:58:23 she knows she's in a comic book. Yeah. I wonder whether they're going to fold that into this yeah um so she knows she's on disney plus yeah maybe it's like laura you're getting your 699 worth out of this you son of a bitch it's me she-hulk so i wonder if it was like a like she knows she's in a law and order-esque show all right or something like that yeah right but the other thing is um it's not bulk not the bulk but a lot of she hulk is lawyering yeah that's true just a like a giant green woman in a court of law ali mcbeal yes yeah exactly just making excellent legal cases exactly yeah yeah yeah so i mean you have to put the punching stuff in absolutely that's That's Disney Plus and comics and whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:05 But I'm kind of interested in like just a legal show. Yeah, for sure. With a giant hulking green woman running things. So, yeah, I'm just thinking about the casting and I just, I don't know. I think it, I've. Yeah, I mean, because do you get, do you get just the best actor and then you tweak them in CGI so they look giant? I think you do.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Because, I mean, but also, you know, She-Hulk isn't as big as... No. She's proportionally... She's in proportion to a regular woman. She's just bigger. Yes. She's not like the Hulk who is this enormous gorilla type creature. You could get, like, a wrestler, like someone who's, like, 6'1", 6'2".
Starting point is 00:59:43 Yeah, right. And you could even... And you chuck, you know, even heels on them and then they like 6'1", 6'2". Yeah, right. And you could even, and you chuck, you know, even heels on them and then they're 6'4", 6'5". I mean, they could do it, you know, Hulk TV series where they didn't tweak his height at all. Yeah. Just like he's pretty big and he's pretty strong.
Starting point is 00:59:57 What do you want, a CGI thing? We don't even know what that is. That's right. 70s. Yeah. Computers are good for one thing, printing off big reams of dot matrix paper. There's just so much of it.
Starting point is 01:00:08 That's true. Do you have one of them? No, I don't think so. Yeah, what an era. But no, I think you run the risk when you're going with a wrestler or someone like that. That they'll go roid rage. They'll go roid rage.
Starting point is 01:00:20 They'll smash up the whole set. Yeah, that's right. But you want someone who can act. And Kristen Ritter, I think, who played Jessica Jones, might have been a really good choice if she wasn't Jessica Jones. Oh, sure, yeah. Yeah, but she's Jessica Jones and nothing else. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Yeah, so there you go. Do you get a comedic actor? Yeah. I would hope so. What about Kristen Wiig? Okay, yeah. Well, she's Cheetah, isn't she? Oh, that's true.
Starting point is 01:00:43 She is in the next one. Not that it matters. Yeah, uh-huh. Let me check who. I'm looking for. Plus, I, she's Cheetah, isn't she? Oh, that's true. She is in the next one. Not that it matters. Let me check here. I'm looking for... Plus, I think she's movies now. She doesn't do TV anymore. Yeah, right. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:51 The first result when I type in She-Hulk actor is Elijah Dushku. Oh, all right. They could scale her up. I don't know how big she is, but yeah. It says here she's 100 feet tall. They're going to have to scale her down. Oh, my God. They're going to have to build some really, really big sets.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Like Gina Carano. Yeah, right. Isn't she in something quite recently? She's in The Mandalorian. She's not a great actor. Sure, yeah. There's a bunch of people. People like Ronda Rousey comes up.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Gwendolyn Christie might not be a bad choice from Game of Thrones. There's just a couple of pictures of Ewan McGregor in here. Just throwing him in the mix A bunch of wrestlers I don't recognise But yeah, interesting Well I'm excited for that Me too Because what's it going to be?
Starting point is 01:01:31 What's it going to be? Is it going to be Ally McBeal? Is it going to be Ally McBeal? It's going to be a unisex toilet that everyone can use Is there going to be a unisex toilet but a bigger one for She-Hulk? That'd be a good joke That would be a good joke I'm so excited, I've bundled it all together.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Saved it for the last segment. Oh, what is it? I wonder. We've gone so far in this episode and I've had such a wonderful time. I wonder what the last thing you've got there to talk about is. First of all, before we talk about the things we're talking about, you might want to check out Steel Wars YouTube channel podcast. He does a lot of things in relation to this topic we are talking about.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Wonderful man, wonderful entertainer. All Star Wars related, obviously. He's actually enthusiastic about Star Wars. Very much so. He's enthusiastic. Like 50% of this podcast. He's enthusiastic and he's realistic. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:02:17 He doesn't love everything. No, exactly. He's got considered opinions about Star Wars, funny considered opinions about Star Wars. Like the time he said he didn't like the General Grievous Ackbar robot that they made for the comics, which I agree with. I'm sorry, the what? It's like an Admiral Ackbar, but it's just on a General Grievous body. So it's just like a fish head on a Grievous body with four lightsabers.
Starting point is 01:02:38 It's not Admiral Ackbar. I was going to say, but it's one of those guys. It's one of the fish guys. Mon Calamari. Mon Calamari. Yeah. Pretty good, huh? That does sound good. Did it really have four lightsabers? guys. Yeah. It's one of the fish guys. Mon Calamari. Mon Calamari. Yeah. Pretty good, huh? That does sound good.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Did it really have four lightsabers? Yes. Wow. Google it. He's Googling it, everybody. Anyway, while you're doing that, there's huge Star Wars news this week. This is why I love Star Wars news
Starting point is 01:02:56 because of the fun little tidbits like some sort of weird Mon Calamari General Grievous guy. General Grievous Ackbar. This is great. Levin's just sent me a... I just got a text right now. Oh. Shay Boskill posted this
Starting point is 01:03:08 to the Great Mates group. Last night I was playing, while playing and chatting on the server with Daniel Morton. Oh, because we have a Minecraft server. That's right.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Well, we don't have a Minecraft server. We don't, people do. We found out that not only do we live in the same city, we both use unicycles. What are the fucking odds? The Melbourne unicycle meetup
Starting point is 01:03:23 only happens once a month and it happened to be the next day. Today we jammed. I fucking love the great mates group. What a bonkers way to meet a person. There's a video of them unicycling together. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:03:32 How great is that? What a world. Yeah. I've met Shay. And if you said which of the people you've met from the listenership of our podcast would be most likely to use a unicycle? I would have absolutely seen a show.
Starting point is 01:03:49 His name's Commander Carbon? Is that who we're talking about? Sure. This guy? That's him, General Grievous Akbar. Okay. Yeah. And I'm lucky he doesn't have forearms, but then later he does have forearms.
Starting point is 01:03:57 He does. Because it's just that it's the particular cyborg unit has forearms. That's right. Levin said, if you want to axe the podcast network after this, I totally understand. And I wrote, I got this during the podcast and read it on the podcast. Very good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Very good. Anyway, Star Wars news. Star Wars news forever. So much Star Wars news. I feel like people wanted more kind of pushback from you because I know you got a lot of messages this week about Star Wars news. But I've had a lot of time to come to terms with the fact we're going to have to talk about Star Wars today.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Absolutely. And you know what? Some of it's pretty fun. That's right, Mason. There's a big reveal. I don't know what order you're going to go with in here. Certainly Admiral Ackbar. I'll do this.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Yes. General Grievous Robot. Let's soften the blow. I better do. And the unicycle thing. The Clone Wars will be back in February. They're doing one final season to wrap everything up. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Is this going to be a new animation style? I believe it's the same animation style. So that's the computer animated one. Levin said, I hope you roasted them. The opposite Levens. I think it's great. They supported their dumb hobby Levens. It's no dumber than podcasting.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Yeah, that's right. And people are impressed by unicycles. Nobody's impressed by podcasting. No one cares. Everybody can podcast. Anyone can do this. Yes. Sometimes even we can't do this.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Actually, to be fair, I've had a few people say, like, well, I could do that. I could just talk about movies if I wanted to. Why fucking don't you then? Come at me with your fucking bad attitude. I don't want it, Mason. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:23 So, yeah, the the Clone Wars same animation style or the whole crew are returning they didn't get a chance to finish it probably because it was cancelled during the Lucasfilm purchase does it end in a cliffhanger
Starting point is 01:05:31 I have no idea it continued in comics and whatever and Star Wars Rebels picks up like so it continued in comic books but are those comic books
Starting point is 01:05:40 currently canonical or are they non-canon they are basically when they when they like scrapped all of Star Wars, they kept the Clone Wars. That was one of the few things they actually kept.
Starting point is 01:05:49 So do you think that a new season of the Clone Wars, do you think it'll pick up from the comic books, assuming that people went from the show to the comics? I think it picks up just before Revenge of the Sith, I believe, just like the tail end of the Clone Wars. I've got to watch this show that I've barely seen. But the movie was so bad, I wanted to die when I saw it. The other big reveal, of course, was probably the biggest thing
Starting point is 01:06:11 that was released online, at least. The Mandalorian trailer. Oh, yeah. I've done a trailer breakdown on my YouTube channel. Check it out. You want to know about the Mandalorian? I know some things about Star Wars. I also know some things about Star Wars because I watched your video.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Yeah, did you? I know Werner Herzog's Wars because I watched your video. Yeah, did you? I know Werner Herzog's in it. That's fine. Yeah, you do. What do you think of this trailer? It looks really good. Yeah. What about it?
Starting point is 01:06:30 It's very spaghetti western. It is, isn't it? Apparently that's one of the things they're going with a man with no name kind of situation. I read a rumor, and I meant to put this in the video, that you might not even take his helmet off for the entire series. Oh, they're going to judge Shred It. That's right. Maybe they'll probably do it at the end.
Starting point is 01:06:43 It's like, look who I am. Sylvester Stallone. I've learned're going to judge Shred It. That's right. Maybe they'll probably do it at the end. It's like, look who I am. Sylvester Stallone. I've learned my lesson from last time. Yes. Do you think it would be a big reveal and they'd be like, it's me, this guy? No, because isn't it the actor? I know who it is.
Starting point is 01:06:54 But what if they made him an Ackbar and he's like, it was just the voice. Oh my God. He's just doing the voice. Ackbar can be anyone. Yeah. It'd be a lesson for people out there who consider themselves the Ackbar.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Yeah, right. It's their friendship group. Yeah. And then they would learn that they can be anything. Even though they look like an Ackbar. What people out there who consider themselves the Ackbar. Yeah, right. It's their friendship group. Yeah. And then they would learn that they can be anything, even though they look like an Ackbar. What would you be if you were an Ackbar in your friendship group? Googly-eyed? Yeah, googly-eyed and damp. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Blown up in space. Yeah. And people kind of forgot that you were in that movie. In Constant Fear of Traps. Yeah. He would be. You know, Ackbar. I know Ackbar.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Yeah, we're going to do a Red Last Jedi commentary, but when they bring him back. Wait, are we? Yeah, before the new one, obviously. Oh, I see. I get it. Okay, that makes sense, actually. Before they brought him back. Did we do a Force Awakens commentary?
Starting point is 01:07:34 We did, yeah. Okay, cool. Everybody listen to our Force Awakens commentary. Do it. Because they brought him back from the new one. In the book, they talk about how when he came back, he's way too old, and he's like, I shouldn't be doing this.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Princess Leia took me out of retirement. I'm 12 years old. That's how old our fish race is. But he was even talking about his eyes don't work properly, his brain is slow, but he's still out there doing it. I've got Mon Calamari dementia, which means my memories were reduced from three seconds to one second. That's it.
Starting point is 01:08:03 But anyway, The Mandalorian. So they're doing, and I talked about this in the trailer, they're trying to capture the aesthetic of like the town of Mos Eisley in that first Star Wars movie. That's what they're going for. Because we're back on Tatooine, right? Some of it is, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:16 It's like smaller scale. Who is this Mandalorian? Who is he? Is he related to? Why did they film that, I wonder? Do they go back to Tunisia? I don't believe so because it's 1,500 degrees there all the time and nobody wants to go there ever.
Starting point is 01:08:27 That's true. Because it's so bloody hot, mate. Am I right? Yes, you are right. You can just do it on a green screen. It's true. Just stand on a green screen. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:35 They can use unused footage from The Phantom Menace probably. They definitely could. Well, you know George Lucas did that for Revenge of the Sith, the one shot that they used in the desert he shot during episode two. Oh, right. Because it's like I'm not going back to this rat hole of a nowhere town apologies to our tunisian listeners no mason this is george lucas i would never say that this is george lucas saying he'll never go back and i bet he hasn't because why would he because he's in adelaide yeah that's true but also you know
Starting point is 01:08:58 the tunisia of australia yes cop that adelaide got him never been there but sucked in i've been to adelaide it's nice yeah city churches uh but but sucked in. I've been to Adelaide. It's nice. Yeah. City of Churches. But that Lars Homestead is still out there. All right. He'll go there, yeah, apparently. Anyway. Does somebody live there now? I think who?
Starting point is 01:09:14 One of the Star Wars directors, the guy who did Rogue One, like spent the night there once. This was way up well before, Gareth Edwards, well before he did the movie. Do you book a time in? No, I think you just go. Just go there and hope there's nobody else in there? Probably can't go there now.
Starting point is 01:09:27 We'll see if you can meet a friend or something. Yeah, meet a friend on a unicycle. But this guy, he's got his bloody carbonite chamber thing and his bloody ship that he's using. I hear there's some controversy over that because when they did it in Empire Strikes Back, it was experimental. They didn't know it was going to work.
Starting point is 01:09:43 This is set before that. This is after. Oh, it is set after. Like five years after. Oh, that's all right then. So I assume they just went, that's not a bad didn't know it was going to work. This is set before that. This is after. Oh, it is set after. Like five years after. Oh, that's all right then. So I assume they just went, that's not a bad idea. That's a pretty good idea. If that was the first time that they did it,
Starting point is 01:09:52 then I think it would have been something that, you know. This is so easy. Let's just carbonite everyone. Let's just carbonite everybody. What if we had a carbonite? What do you do? Can you use something else? Like cement?
Starting point is 01:10:02 Let's put them in a block of cement. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Hit them over the head with a brick.'s fine that'll work that'll work definitely yeah so it's there it's this galaxy where especially in the outer rim everything's kind of everything's terrible because the new government's in and they haven't enforced the law everywhere and stormtroopers are still out and about vertigo it's like i remember the old days. I've made that movie about the guy who got attacked by a bear because he hung out with bears too much. That's right.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Bear hanger-outer. What's his deal? He's got some sort of imperial medal on him. Former imperial, I think, is the idea, yeah. But there are still regular imperials running about being like, we don't like this. And there's a few stormtroopers out there who are like, let's have some fun on the beach.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Let's take our helmets and put them on these spikes and come back for a blunder. That's what we're doing right now. The bit in the trailer where the guy maybe gets cut in half by the door. Yes. Do you think he actually gets cut in half by the door? Because PG-13, bearing in mind also in Star Wars movies, you can cut off people's arms. But do you think he might just get stuck in the door? No, I think he's getting cut in half there.
Starting point is 01:11:04 But I did like the tradition of if you want to close a door, just shoot the button. Do you think he might just get stuck in the door? No, I think he's getting cut in half there. But I did like the tradition of if you want to close a door, just shoot the button with a blaster and it'll close. That's great. It's probably the opposite to open it, I assume, right? Suck a bullet out of it. Suck a bullet out of it. Like taking the venom out of a snake's eye. Yeah, exactly, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Apparently it doesn't work either. Don't do it. No, absolutely not. So do you think he doesn't get chopped in half? No, I'm saying I don't know. I think he maybe, I reckon they probably negotiated one chopped in half in the whole series.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Just to prove his bona fides. And you're not going to say like... Guts. Guts and stuff. Guts hanging out. Because when, like when somebody loses an arm, except with the exception of the first one,
Starting point is 01:11:40 there's no blood. Yeah. It's just whatever. Cauterized? Cauterized, yeah. Cauterized, thank you. But a door doesn't cauterize someone does it no this is a hot door it's a real hot door it could be a hot door it's the door to the hottest nightclub on tatooine well they're going out to the desert so maybe that's what it is generally just a hot door hot door mate maybe there's a warning there's some foreshadowing earlier in the episode where it's like that's one hot door so watch out
Starting point is 01:12:02 for the door that hot door yeah he's buying the place yeah and they're like listen there's only one thing we need to tell you that door is that does hot yeah hot door uh so this is coming out i mean again i've done a video if you want to if you want to know stuff about it this is coming out uh with disney plus on november 11th in the us or you can check it out the week after here mason or if you're in the uk you can still exactly still off the internet. Oh, but they'll probably put it on another network. Sky, maybe. One of the other networks in the UK.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Dave. They might put it on Dave. They could put it on Dave. The BBC. Could put it on the channel four. Channel four. ITV. ITV.
Starting point is 01:12:38 EastEnders. EastEnders. The other thing, of course, worth a mention is IG. The Bill. The Bill. IG11. Oh, it's not IG88. No it's not ig88 it's a previous model like an older model yeah it doesn't even how do they even it might just be the like the code name
Starting point is 01:12:51 maybe they built a bunch of them and yeah yeah and he's the wacky new zealand one oh that's taika waititi yeah okay well that's my my favorite edits i've ever done with that the taika waititi oh yeah i put it into you'll see it it's like seven minutes 30 in the video if you want to check it out but uh no. But we saw that. I watched the league footage before, but the way he can just shoot anybody anywhere. He's got the vision of a duck. He can see in 360 degrees.
Starting point is 01:13:13 Is that what a duck has? Yeah, he can see everywhere. I don't think that's true at all. Or a pigeon, like in the movie Will Smith Turns Into a Pigeon. Remember, there's the gag. No, they do. There's a gag in it where he's like, I can see everything, Tom Holland. I'm a spy, but I'm a pigeon.
Starting point is 01:13:24 You think that's accurate? I want to look up pigeons. Pigeon vision. I think most birds can like, because they've got the eyes on the side of their head. Right. Their range of vision is phenomenal. Intriguing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:37 And then you've got like an owl who has to turn its head, like the opposite of a Tim Burton Batman, to look around. Yeah, right. Pigeon's vision is a field of view of 340 degrees. That's pretty close, Mason. It's not bad. It's not bad. It's not 347. It's true.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Seven less than that. Not bad. Are you impressed? I'm pretty impressed. I think that would be so, like if you gave that to a person, they'd just die. It'd be too much to compare. It's the 101 dalmatians of vision exactly because you know the idea with humans vision as well because your eyes dart around so
Starting point is 01:14:09 much and kind of look at everything but the focal point you've actually got is really small so it gives you the illusion that you're seeing everything but you're not you're seeing like a tiny fraction yeah did you know you also briefly go blind when you move your head really yeah that's why if you look at your watch something if you if you look away and you look at your watch and then the second hand appears to stay still for a really long time because your brain's just guessing where it is. Your brain's a dumbass. I know.
Starting point is 01:14:33 That may not be accurate, but it's pretty close to something I read on Twitter once. Anything else on the Mandalorian, Mason? Looks pretty cool. This is the most excited Star Wars thing I am for except for something else that's coming up. I mean, it looks, I think, because on your video, you intercut that with some old Star Wars footage, like some Episode I Star Wars footage or whatever.
Starting point is 01:14:51 It's pretty close. No, it's way better. I mean, yes, that's obvious. It's so much better. But, I mean, the aesthetic is there, right? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, excellent. The Rise of Skywalker got a poster.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Did you see that poster? The emperor's in it. People are like, that looks like a cartoon emperor, which it kind of does, I guess. Definitely, yeah. I don't really care. see that poster? The emperor's in it. People are like, that looks like a cartoon emperor, which it kind of does, I guess. But I don't really care. Rey's in it. Rey's in it. Kylo's in it.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Yes. At odds this time around. This time around and again. So the big takeaway from this is a couple of things. I'm ready. There's footage of C-3PO, but he's got red eyes. Oh. Maybe he's having too many bloody bongs, mate.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Oh, yes. You know what I mean? Marijuana. Oh. Bongs. You know? Yeah, for sure. Or maybe he's still got some of that, remember he got his head on a.
Starting point is 01:15:36 Some of that droid marijuana. No, remember on Attack of the Clones he got his head on an attack droid's body. Yeah, I remember that, yeah. And he's like, now I'm an evil robot. Oh, you think he's still got some on an attack droid's body. Yeah, I remember that, yeah. Now I'm an evil robot. Oh, you think he's still got some of that programming in him. But also, C-3PO has like a galaxy-wide network of spy droids. Oh. That's not really talked about in the movies at all.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Since when? Since the new series. That's what he has. Oh, I see, right. So he's got, yeah, so most of the information. He hasn't always had them. No. It's not like R2-D2's hidden rocket boosters. No, that's right. He hasn't always had them. It's not like R2-D2's hidden rocket boosters.
Starting point is 01:16:06 He hasn't always had them and he just never mentioned them. So maybe it's an element of that. Also, maybe he's installed some kind of defence stuff in him because he's pretty useless most of the time. That's true, yeah. Isn't there that picture of him with a bowcaster or holding a rifle or something? Oh, yeah, from one of the old comics.
Starting point is 01:16:21 No, no, it's on the other poster they released. Oh, okay. So maybe he's got a kill mode or whatever. That'd be great. And the other thing is there's a moment where Ray is dressed in black with a double-edged lightsaber. And it's red. And it's red mason.
Starting point is 01:16:35 I've heard about that. Apparently they changed, I saw this on Steel Wars. Steel Wars does a hyper chat where they talked about how on the Lucasfilm website, but it might have been changed now, they mentioned that that's a vision. So it could be like a vision of the future being like, Ray, if you go down this dark path, you'll be a Darth Maul. It'll be so cool. Yeah, it'll be cool.
Starting point is 01:16:53 You'll have robot legs. Is that what you want? Not really, I'd imagine. Do you want four arms? We can do that. We'll put you on a grievous body. Exactly. Yeah, let's get that fish right out of there.
Starting point is 01:17:02 That's right. Yeah. We'll just wait a couple of days, then we'll flush him down the toilet, and then we'll put you in there. So what do you think about that? Do you think it's... First of all, the staff.
Starting point is 01:17:10 There you go. She's finally getting it. I was going to stop predicting that for this. No, you don't have to. No, I don't. Yeah. I thought it was going to happen in the other movies. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Well, I mean, the question, I think, would be where she got that. If it's not a dream sequence, where did it come from? Which is the kyber crystal cracked in two that Luke gave her that came out of Luke's lightsaber. Is it? Yeah, I think it might be. Did that make it red, though? No, well, you've got to bleed them.
Starting point is 01:17:34 It's a thing in comics now. You take a regular one. Take a regular one. I just want to find a red crystal. Put all your hate in it. Can I just get a red crystal? Or a filter you can put over the end of it. A bit of cellophane?
Starting point is 01:17:44 A bit of cellophane, that'll do it. So I think this is confirmation that she won't turn evil. Yeah, for sure. Well, this is a J.J. Abrams joint, so absolutely. I think it'll be, this could be you. She's like, I'll never do that. And they're like, I'll be a will though. No, I won't.
Starting point is 01:18:02 She won't. She got us, folks. She's not going to do it. She called our bluff. Yeah, so there you go. Apparently they're going to release this footage that they did. It's like a behind-the-scenes kind of thing on Monday, so I'll probably have a video on it if people are keen to see that.
Starting point is 01:18:14 But I am mildly excited for this thing. Okay, good. You? Yep, also mildly excited. Both of us are ready to go. I think I'll be less mildly excited, and by that I mean more excited if the trailer comes out this week. Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:18:29 And the last thing they confirmed. It's difficult for me to get excited for something that's been described to me, I think. I thought I did a really good job. Well, I mean, you tried your best, didn't you? No, I did a good job. I mean, you tried your best, didn't you? Come on, mate. I would have thought by now I would have nailed Theatre of the Mind.
Starting point is 01:18:45 I've been podcasting for 300 episodes. You have, it's true. You're up to 300 episodes. You're not eating that chocolate yet. It's my victory chocolate. When we have a successful podcast, I'm going to eat the victory. Oh, you want to see if actually this one's recorded first? Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 01:18:58 James gave me a piece of chocolate earlier and I've held on to it. The last thing they confirmed is they got Ewan McGregor on stage and Kathleen Kennedy, who was weird that was there because she was fired, wasn't she? She was fired because she ruined Star Wars. According to all those videos I've watched, she ruined Star Wars. Do you watch any of those videos? No.
Starting point is 01:19:17 They're unbearable. I bet. I mean, I understand if you hate the direction of Star Wars, but just give it up. I can't believe that she's solely responsible for the failure of a movie that no one thought would work and no one liked. So she said, and he said, could you ask me one more time if I'm going to be Obi-Wan?
Starting point is 01:19:37 And she asked him and he said yes. Everybody went, what? Everyone went insane. What if he'd said no and walked away? That would have been so good. Just definitively, I, Ewan McGregor, have paid $1 million of my own money to purchase some time here at the D23 Expo
Starting point is 01:19:55 so I could tell everyone here and everyone around the world I will not be Obi-Wan Kenobi ever again for as long as I live. But in my contract, it does stipulate that after I die, they can do whatever they want with my appearance and my body. So they might cut my head off and put it in a General Grievous body. Then we're off to the races. Then we're off to the races, yeah. Well, that could be very possible that under that robe, Alec Guinness has got a General
Starting point is 01:20:19 Grievous body. That's true. We don't see it, do we? Yeah. They just need to get the hands right. It's fine. Like human hands. Yep.
Starting point is 01:20:24 General Grievous body. Just some like dishwashing see it, do we? Yeah. They just need to get the hands right. It's fine. Like human hands. Yep. General Gravis' body. Just some like dishwashing gloves. Paint them white. Yeah. Paint some nails on it. So this would have been an incredible reveal if we didn't know about this. Oh, yeah, for sure. Can you imagine?
Starting point is 01:20:36 Being there on the day. Well, that or just hearing that, you know, like you had no word of this for the four years we've been talking about an obi-wan movie and then tv series but this is i am very jazzed like if he'd made no public if you and mcgrath made no public appearances in the last four years yeah exactly yeah and then he was just nobody had asked him he came out of a cave wearing a brown robe big beard oh so good but apparently it's going to be set eight years after revenge of of the Sith. Okay. Which is weird because it's been, by the time it comes out, it's filming next year, it'll be at least 16 years. That guy's aged phenomenally.
Starting point is 01:21:12 Yes. To be like, yeah, it's eight years. He looks exactly, he looks mostly the same. I agree. Yeah. But he has to do some rapid aging though. To catch up to Alec Guinness. 19 years in the desert.
Starting point is 01:21:23 Yeah. Well, that'll do it. It's all the UVB. It'll get you, mate. What do you think? Where are you at? I'm excited. Looks good.
Starting point is 01:21:30 Which part are you excited and which don't you have excited? I have excited for the part where we're going to see Ewan McGregor on TV for many episodes. I think that's fun. Do you think they're going to bring back Darth Maul even though Obi-Wan Kenobi kills him in the desert? Yes. Spider legs. Yeah. Spider legs, right?
Starting point is 01:21:48 No, no. This is after. This is in Star Wars Rebels. Okay, right. It shows up. We'll do a video on it. Is this the era in which he would or would not have spider legs? He doesn't have spider legs.
Starting point is 01:21:59 This is around the time of Solo. Okay. Oh, so he's in his phone booth. Yes. Lighting up his lightsaber so everybody knows who he is. Can you imagine if they brought out
Starting point is 01:22:09 like the cast of Solo? They brought out Woody Harrelson and they went, we're doing a Beckett prequel or whatever. We're doing a Beckett prequel. Was he in Beckett? No, but Ted Danson was.
Starting point is 01:22:21 It seems like... I was going to say, I just feel like that's something you would have shown up in. We're going to do a prequel to Becca. We're going to tie it into the Cheers universe. So Woody Harrelson is here. But yeah, imagine if they were like, it's a solo TV series.
Starting point is 01:22:32 I don't think people would be as excited. Absolutely not, no. This is all people wanted. I'm kind of glad now that it's a TV series, so we get more episodes. Yep, that's what I'm thinking. There you go. That's all the news though, Mason.
Starting point is 01:22:42 We've finally done it. Hooray! Anything else from d23 that you want to discuss before we move on to the next segment of the show make some notes hang on let's have a look i think i i look i think i wrote some stuff down that was not d23 related okay dave warner key the pie thing got that uh james bond got that uh this is unrelated to any of this but they're they they revealed the uh but they revealed the Mortal Kombat 11 bonus characters. Did you see that?
Starting point is 01:23:06 Oh, yeah, that's right. I did see that, yeah. It's the Joker. Well, it's a couple. It's Shang Tsung and Sindel, and then it's the Joker, Spawn, and the Terminator. Yes. It's pretty cool. The Terminator skin looks amazing.
Starting point is 01:23:16 But it's Terminator Genisys era. I think it's the new one. Ah, okay. That makes a lot more sense. Okay, right. Uh-huh. Yeah, but... Does Arnold Schwarzenegger know about this? Apparently, he's not voicing it. Right, okay. Yeah, but who cares? ah okay that makes a lot more sense okay right uh-huh yeah but uh does that much wasn't i gonna
Starting point is 01:23:25 know about this apparently he's not voicing it right okay yeah but who cares anybody can do that they'll get the general candy voice yeah exactly get that guy oh what if they were like it's not the terminator it's general candy absolutely a real man and the version from terminator 3 with the star glasses yes that's a skin you can get yeah anything else you got on there no that's it i think as long as you wrote down the Anything else you got on there? No, that's it, I think. As long as you wrote down the three most important things. Those are the three things that you brought with you today. No, I didn't.
Starting point is 01:23:50 But these are the things that I assumed you wouldn't bring up. So there's also like, yeah, the Jack No Time to Die. Yeah. That's not a bad idea. Do you do that every week? Sometimes. Good for you. You're working.
Starting point is 01:24:01 I'm working. All right. Do you know what it's time for? Oh, it's time for what we're reading what we're gonna read we're gonna read I just started I'm doing a thing
Starting point is 01:24:10 the theme song is happening now I've already played it's happening right now I'm talking over it it's happening now I need to be cool I talked all through it do you want to do it again
Starting point is 01:24:19 nah okay you're gonna fix it in editing because normally what we do peek behind the curtain I say the thing and then we just there's a slight pause and then we go straight into it yeah yeah Okay. You're going to fix it in editing? Because normally what we do, peek behind the curtain, I say the thing and then there's a slight pause and then we go straight into it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:29 That day is gone. I'm going to eat this victory chocolate. Oh, Mason, it's too early for victory chocolate. No, it's not. You shouldn't eat on a podcast. No, people love it. No. There's a very small sector of people.
Starting point is 01:24:38 I hate it. There's a small sector of people in the public who love eating on a podcast. Well, that's not cool. They find it very silly. Okay, while you're eating, I read the second comic of Superman
Starting point is 01:24:47 Year 1, which is the Frank Miller Superman. How's that going? It's better than the first episode, or whatever it was. But basically, Superman is a military man. He's training in the army, and they're like, he's so good at the military. He's got excellent precision. He never gets tired. And I'm like,
Starting point is 01:25:03 this isn't too bad. But then he goes and marries a mermaid or something at the end. What universe excellent precision he never gets tired and I'm like this isn't too bad but then he goes and marries a mermaid or something at the end so what universe is this? I think it's the Batman one the Batman year one
Starting point is 01:25:12 Batman year one and also Dark Knight universe which I think are the same universe really? yeah madness
Starting point is 01:25:17 it is madness oh well I guess so is the idea behind this because Batman year one is kind of the very ground level first early Batman.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Yeah. And he's just like fighting mob bosses and stuff like that and getting stabbed in the leg and whatever. So is this intended to bridge that and The Dark Knight Returns, which is weird and sci-fi? Maybe. But this would have to be set well before. No, it could be around the time of year one, actually. Or after. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:46 I don't know. See, I think it's usually Superman's origin is supposed to be like a couple of years before Batman's. Because Batman saw the cape and go, what if but black? Exactly. Becoming black. But I guess because in the Dark Knight Returns, especially Superman's like this very dedicated,
Starting point is 01:26:04 and he's very dedicated to the government, and he's very much a civil servant. So yeah, maybe this is like, that's how they're going to bridge it. That's never been part of Superman's origin, that he was in the military or whatever. No, it's a new thing. It's actually not a bad element. Okay.
Starting point is 01:26:17 And he's good at it. Well, he is Superman. Yeah, and they break like three razors on his hair, trying to buzz cut his hair or whatever. And they're like, you're paying for that, Kent? You'll pay for it. He's fishing your head off. Marry a mermaid.
Starting point is 01:26:30 Who's the mermaid? He just goes into the ocean and meets mermaids. Sounds very odd. I think if you'd said he joins the military, I'd be like, okay, we can add that to the Superman mythos. Then you were like, marry a mermaid. What are you reading? Reading mermaid stuff?
Starting point is 01:26:42 No, I'm not reading any mermaid stuff. I've just started on The Expanse, the very recently cancelled Amazon series. Did it come back now? Isn't it back? Didn't somebody buy it? I'm going to have to look it up. I'll do that while you talk about it. How about that?
Starting point is 01:26:53 Tell us about The Expanse. Well, it's in the 23rd century and humanity's colonised the solar system. Yes. And it's very much, would you say, a hard sci-fi series? Yeah, definitely. People have said Game of Thrones, but space. Okay, so I'm going to be crushingly disappointed by the end of it? I have no idea, but yes.
Starting point is 01:27:10 Okay, cool. So I'm only like an episode in, but... Yeah. There is going to be a season four, yes. Okay, there you go. Well, maybe I should wait until that's cancelled. That's true. Thomas Jane's like...
Starting point is 01:27:20 It may even be cancelled by now. But Thomas Jane is like, I'm a detective. Yeah. Isn't he? Yeah. Also, what I did see, and I was super Jane is like, I'm a detective. Yeah. Isn't he? Yeah. Also, what I did see, and I was super excited to watch, but it's not out yet, but I think it's coming soon, is Carnival Row, which is...
Starting point is 01:27:33 Oh, that... What's his name? It's Orlando Bloom and Cara Delevingne. Finally. And it looks like bright but Victorian era. And it looks like nonsense. Well, I've seen a review of the first episode and people are like, why? Terrific.
Starting point is 01:27:48 But it's a pilot, so you never know with these things. Oh, it's just a pilot. There's no series. Well, that was reviewed, I should say. Oh, it's just a pilot. Okay, right. Okay. Bright but Victorian era.
Starting point is 01:27:57 That's what it looks like. Finally, I say. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. I'm going to say something else. Was it about Cara Delevingne? No.
Starting point is 01:28:03 Was it about Orlando Bloom? No. I don't know. What about? I don't know anything. Okay, cool. I think I'll say something else. Was it about Cara Delevingne? No. Was it about Orlando Bloom? No. I don't know. I don't know anything. Okay, cool. I never will. I finally watched Days of the Dead and Confused today for some reason. Is that McConaughey's in there?
Starting point is 01:28:15 It's on Netflix and I've never seen it. I'd seen the spiritual sequel, Everybody Wants Some. Okay. And it's so weird. It's so 90s. Well, it's set in the 70s, but it came out in 1994. It's got like young Affleck ands. Well, it's set in the 70s, but it came out in 1994. It's got like Young Affleck and a bunch of other people who have since disappeared.
Starting point is 01:28:29 But it's just a – What's the plot of Days of Confusion? It's just like the last day of school and everyone's smoking bongs and being like, I'm going to be my own man. They really see 3PO-ing it. They certainly are. Smoking some bongs. Smoking some bloody bongs, mate.
Starting point is 01:28:43 But, yeah, no, I enjoyed it for the most part. If people love reading stuff, they could check out mine and Claire's podcast, Suggestible, every Thursday where we talk about things that we've been looking into. Oh, yeah. What are you talking about this week? I don't know yet. What did you talk about last week? I can't remember.
Starting point is 01:28:58 You have to listen to the podcast to find out. Yeah. Good sizzle. Good strategy you've got going on there. Yeah, that's a strategy. Yeah, nice. That'll do it, I reckon. That'll do it. Let's go to the next segment, which is the letters to find out. Yeah. Good sizzle. Good strategy you've got going on there. Yeah, that's a strategy. Yeah, nice. That'll do it, I reckon. That'll do it.
Starting point is 01:29:06 Let's go to the next segment, which is the letters segment. Always. The classic one was Letters, oh letters We love you Some letters They're only
Starting point is 01:29:15 A take away I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. I'm just looking in my folder of like, I call it audio assets. Oh, yes. All the stuff, all the audio stings I've gotten here. Oh, of like I call it audio assets all the stuff all the audio stings I've gotten here oh yes
Starting point is 01:29:28 I've got everything I've even got Defenders of the Earth did I put it in? I don't know well I could have yeah it's true but I realise I don't actually have that theme song
Starting point is 01:29:36 like I never even bother to download it I know what if it gets deleted off the internet it's gone isn't it yeah it's gone forever yeah so if you want to reach the show hashtag weeklyplanetPod on Twitter
Starting point is 01:29:45 or shoot an email over to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. That's us. I've got some tweets here from people. One of them is from Vindictive Thumb who says, hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod, can Wikipedia Brown, a.k.a. you, give us a breakdown of who or what Moon Knight is in an upcoming episode. Never heard of the guy, brackets, or girl, but it's definitely a guy probably. As a female listener, I rely on your comic book cheat for comics
Starting point is 01:30:08 to maintain my fake nerd ruse. Thanks, mate. Well, joke's on you because we both also have a fake nerd ruse. So, well, Moon Knight is... We will do an episode, though. Yeah. I'm closer to you. So Moon Knight, he was a guy called Mark Spector
Starting point is 01:30:24 and he was kind of a mercenary he ends up in egypt and then i think uh he has a change of heart like he's and and he decides to defend some innocent people were being killed and he gets he wants to do moon right exactly he wants to do moon right that's what they're going to put on the poster and he gets machine gun to death in front of like a a statue of the moon god Khonshu, who's like, you can be my agent on Earth and I'm bringing you back to life. And then he becomes like a Batman style. You can moon fight.
Starting point is 01:30:53 You can moon fight and he makes it moon right. At night. But also, due to the trauma, he has a series of other personalities. Or perhaps I think maybe he's taken on a series of different identities and over the years his mind has gone a bit wrong but also none of that egypt stuff might be real yeah it might also a lot of it being being in his head yeah so um but he basically just beats up people oh yeah for sure he's like batman yeah he's like batman he's got moonarangs he does have moonarangs yes they're not called moonarangs they're called something else they're called moonarangs we call them moonarangs yeah
Starting point is 01:31:25 and sort of yeah he's he's he's kind of a psychopath yeah it's kind of fun and he wears
Starting point is 01:31:32 according to him he wears white because he wants people to see him coming yeah right which I think is good
Starting point is 01:31:35 so I'm excited for the series it's going to be really good me too yeah he might be again the the whole moon
Starting point is 01:31:41 god thing might be it might be real or Khonshu might be some sort of alien consciousness, like a Cthulhu elder god or aliens or something like that. Yeah, right. Or it's all in his head and he's insane. That sounds really cool.
Starting point is 01:31:53 And he just happened to survive a hail of bullets. Yeah, people do, oddly enough. Do you want to read your letter, or do you want me to read another tweet? I'll read your letter. I'm ready for that. All right, here we go. This is from Jeff Forehand. I know jeff do you yeah from green bay wisconsin i mean he's written in before home of the packers don't believe you no it's true jeff forehand is a great name you're
Starting point is 01:32:15 a fake fan do you think of this podcast that no i mean you are of the packers oh absolutely yeah yeah yeah do you think his arch nemesis is Jeff Backhand? But it's Jeff with a G. Yeah, yeah. Is he Jeff with a J? He is Jeff with a J. I do know him, yeah. I know him, yeah. Hey, fellas.
Starting point is 01:32:31 This week I'm taking a road trip to a superhero museum in Indiana and a Superman museum in Illinois. It got me wondering what are some of the nerdy things you'd like to do or visit on your bucket lists? Okay.
Starting point is 01:32:41 I do want to go to that Star Wars land when everything opens up. Though according to some internet sources everyone's getting fired and they're turning into aladdin land or something like that it's probably not been around for five minutes yeah i know uh apparently numbers might be down or whatever and something's just gotten started yeah i know they only just announced this but i i'm surprised they didn't do marvel first yeah right okay i mean they are doing it but um but i guess Marvel doesn't have a... A world?
Starting point is 01:33:06 Yeah, I mean, it's just New York, really. They'd have to build New York in Disneyland. Yeah, you're probably right. Or an Avengers base or something. That's true, but I also feel like... I ate the chocolate. You shouldn't be eating on... I ate the victory chocolate.
Starting point is 01:33:19 Does it feel like a victory? Yes. You don't look like a winner. No, I feel like a winner. But I feel like even if you go, okay, the Avengers headquarters, what does it look like? It's just a sort of vague military base. That's not exciting.
Starting point is 01:33:33 It looks like a Stark R&D facility. At least if you go, okay, well, here's Star Wars land. It looks like Tatooine. It looks like Batuu. Batuu. Yeah. Disneyland, it's called Avengers Campus. Okay.
Starting point is 01:33:46 That's what it's going to be. Yeah, so there you go. Yeah. Do you remember those things they tried a few years ago? There was like a robot who could like swing like Spider-Man? No. What they should do. Like a general, like a Boston Dynamics robot?
Starting point is 01:33:58 Kind of like that, yeah. What they should do is just make like Iron Man drones and Thor drones and just have them fly over the park. And every now and then like Iron Man just flies over. And just hope they don't hit anyone. You know what would happen? Every day someone would shoot one down and steal it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:12 Okay. Maybe put on a cable. Okay. Every day someone would cut the cable and steal it. That's true. Yeah. Wouldn't that be cool if you're there and then you see like Iron Man fly over? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:20 And you'd be like, I know from movies movies and comics because we're big comics guys absolutely we know him from that yep we're not fake nerds Mason that's correct this isn't
Starting point is 01:34:30 this isn't nerd related necessarily but I'd like to take it like a diner tour of the US like all the you know famous
Starting point is 01:34:36 well not even famous but just like I'd like to hit go through the Midwest and kind of like get a waffle get a waffle
Starting point is 01:34:42 exactly get the coffee with the refills or whatever they don't do that here that's true for the most part they don't you're right yeah because it's not good coffee someone comes over and goes hey hun you want to fill up and you're like yeah dude and then you're like they're like how are the flapjacks and you're like do you mean pancakes and they're like are they the same thing and i'm like i don't know probably yep and you're
Starting point is 01:35:00 like extra flappy just the way i like it yeah i'd like to do that just go to like yeah because you can get like you know coffee table books of like great looking weird diners and stuff like that i really like that aesthetic and that whole look so i'd like to is there anything in melbourne that kind of does that that you are into no it's all like faux versions of that it's all like hungry jacks specifically yeah hungry jacks the restaurant hungry jacks for some reason designed like 50 dot 50 oh yeah no that Sort of, but only some of them. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of this.
Starting point is 01:35:26 In Melbourne, there's a few like American-themed places. Mostly like fried chicken. They'll do stuff like – because in America, you can get regular Coke, which has high fructose corn syrup in it, and you can get Mexican Coke, which has real sugar in it. And so these American diners in Melbourne will import Mexican Cokes. But Australian Coke has sugar in it anyway. They're the same.
Starting point is 01:35:50 It's the same. We accept Australian Cokes better. Is it? How do you know? I've tried them both. You've done both? Yeah. And I enjoy this victory.
Starting point is 01:35:57 But you're on the Coke no sugar. I know. Sometimes I treat myself. How do you even know, Mason? I know. I treat myself sometimes. Yeah, I bet you bloody do. I do.
Starting point is 01:36:04 That's true. Treat yourself to being a dumbass. I treat myself sometimes. Yeah, I bet you bloody do. I do. That's true. Treat yourself to being a dumbass. Yeah, I do. Absolutely, I do. I've been doing it for 300 episodes. I'm trying to think if there's anything else I want to go to. Do I want to see those giant statues of the presidents? Probably not.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Mount Rushmore. Yeah. No. Do I want to see Ezra? I've never seen that. Probably not. I've got friends who go around and be like it's the big pineapple people do like the big stuff oh yeah yeah for sure i don't care but i think
Starting point is 01:36:29 they maybe do it more ironically than i like i like running across one like if you're on a road trip and you're like that's the big prawn or whatever i saw the big donut the big simpsons donut when i was in new zealand yeah and they're like the last one burnt down this is a new one and i went great yeah it's really good it's good yeah we keep going it's very that's that's good stuff i like water parks like the best water park i'd like to go to yeah yeah whatever that is probably not wet and wild in queensland yeah dream world on the gold coast not a water park i don't know what it is the world has some water park stuff but it's also got dolphins and shit that they keep there oh yeah that's true anyway i got another tweet here from salford citizen hashtag weekly planet pod am i the only person who's
Starting point is 01:37:09 starting to think that this am i the only person who's starting to think that this phase four of the mcu is going to be difficult to keep track of am i the only one movies movies set in the multiverse tv show spinoffs tv shows in parallel universes brackets loki and what if scenarios there's too many what if scenarios we've done it that's how julie xy felt yep there it is impersonation is back uh but yeah this it would it is confusing it's more overwhelming for me like video wise i'm like i can't oh there's too many revelations, right. And I'm also kind of like, maybe I'm going to pivot away from doing Easter egg videos and stuff like that because it's just too much and maybe I should just do stuff
Starting point is 01:37:52 that doesn't rely on that necessarily. There are a lot of Easter egg videos out there, but a lot of them are just listing things. Yeah, well, mine isn't listing things. No, but I know, but at least you put a, like, I feel like, I feel like the vast majority, if you click on one, it'll just be like, okay, here's the episode of What If, and here's the Easter eggs.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Okay, this character, go through the door. But some people also want that. Yeah, that's true. That's what I'm doing. I think they really do. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Because every now and then I get a comment that's like, less jokes. But I'll never stop.
Starting point is 01:38:24 No. Yeah. Moonwright, that was a good moon right that was a good example it was a good example you want some of my victory chocolate for that great joke it's got teeth marks in i don't do that mason i don't eat on air because i'm not an animal i can restrain myself all right you're a fucking thug you're the thug of podcasting mason absolute deviant uh what do you think it's too much to keep track of? The answer's yes, by the way. No, but I don't know.
Starting point is 01:38:50 I mean, I think it is if you were to start now. Yeah. I think that's way too much. I think if you've eased your way in, like you started with Iron Man. Yeah. And you've worked your way up, I think. You don't think you can do that? Ease your way in?
Starting point is 01:38:59 No, I'm sure you could. Do you think there's also jumping off points where you go, I saw the Avengers. And I also think, yeah, no, I think so. I mean, you could probably skip all the phase one stuff and just go to The Avengers if you really want to. That's probably true, yeah. But I feel like oftentimes if somebody doesn't know anything about any of this stuff, they'll say, hey, what do you think?
Starting point is 01:39:14 How should I go into this? And somebody will be like, oh, my God, you've got to watch Iron Man. You've got to watch Captain America. And they'll give you like, I mean, you could skip Thor, I guess, but watch this one and this one and this one. And you've suddenly been given a list of 20 films to watch. You could probably do just the Avengers movies without Age of Ultron, Civil War,
Starting point is 01:39:33 and that'd probably get you up to speed. Yeah, for sure. You just have to be like, okay, in the second Avengers movie they introduced a robot with a sweater vest. That's all you really need to know. That's true. But, like, Thor shows up with a haircut in Infinity War. You wouldn't be like, you'd just be like,
Starting point is 01:39:48 well, he got a haircut, didn't he? Absolutely. It's the same movies. I mean, that's the essential thrust of Ragnarok. It's a man getting a haircut. That's true. And I think also the problems you face, that's the whole metaphor of that movie.
Starting point is 01:40:01 If you want to go out and get a haircut, it's just a real headache. Oh, boy, is it. I think the idea is as well well the Avengers movies are positioned themselves, even though you get more out of it if you've seen the other ones. Anyone can watch them. And I think that's evident in the way they do well. I think they market themselves as like, yeah, you can just go and see this.
Starting point is 01:40:20 Except for Endgame where you had to see the previous one. That didn't hurt it at all. It's the most successful movie of all time. Except many ways it's helped yeah exactly so yeah it's probably not just keep up yeah just keep up mate oh my god can't you just keep up with all these movies and tv shows there's too many tv shows just listen to the weekly planet podcast we'll help you out so you need jerry which show do i watch? What if? But don't I need the background Of the original stories Of these characters?
Starting point is 01:40:49 In many ways you do It was a bad example Jerry We're both Jerry We're both Jerry The least The least likeable character In the TV show Seinfeld Yes
Starting point is 01:40:59 Both their character That's the show for this week I think Mason What She-Hulk Have you seen EllinghamBeal? She's Megan Greene. Bring us home
Starting point is 01:41:09 at the end of the show. Oh my goodness, thank you everybody for listening, getting bloody excited over this stuff. Yeah, man. Day 23.
Starting point is 01:41:16 Oh my God. What a week we've had. Oh my God. Thanks everybody for subscribing and reviewing and giving us a nice five-star review and telling a friend.
Starting point is 01:41:23 I've got a review right here, Mason. That's how we get the new listeners. This is from July 6th, 2011, Wednesday, 10.32 p.m. That's 2011, this review. Yep. That was the username. Oh, I see. Five stars.
Starting point is 01:41:36 Great. Really awesome bros discussing all things. Get entertained, mate. But the title of this is read the first letter of each word, and it's actually grab that gem. incredible incredible work that's a new that's a new high bar incredible incredible work july 6 2011 wednesday 10 32 p.m yep on your username incredible work what's next uh if you would uh getting if you'd like to get in contact with us you can go to weekly planet pod at gmail, at Facebook, at Twitter, at Bandcamp.
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Starting point is 01:43:13 Wow. You should be the pie guy. You should be the pie guy. I don't like pies. I mean, I like a pie, certainly. I'll do a pasty over a pie. No, you're the only one in the world. Well, why are they selling them?
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Starting point is 01:43:52 I love doing it, Mason. What are we doing next week? Episode 300? Matrix films. If you want to give them a re-watch, go for it. We won't be talking about the Animatrix. Oh. Can I bring my The Art of the Matrix book over?
Starting point is 01:44:02 Or pour over it? I'm going to pour petrol over it. What? It's probably a collector's item. There's probably only 10 million of them. How many do you reckon there are, actually? 10 million. Yeah, that's probably true.
Starting point is 01:44:14 That's too many. No. We should burn a few. Yeah, I agree. Can you really bring that around? Yeah, I'll bring it around. You'll find it. Cool.
Starting point is 01:44:20 All right. Yeah, thanks, everybody, for listening. Thank you very much. Grab that jam, guys. We'll see you next week. And goodbye. I'm going to eat this victory chocolate. everybody for listening. Thank you very much. Grab that jam, guys. We'll see you next week. And goodbye. I'm going to eat this victory chocolate. You deserve it.
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