The Weekly Planet - 313 The Irishman & A New Superman?

Episode Date: December 2, 2019

Listeners of my show can get $5 off any Harry’s shave set at http://www.Harrys.com/WEEKLYPLANET. Free shipping ends on December 16th, so ACT NOW!Welcome to The Weekly Planet Dot Com! This week, The ...Irishman in addition to Michael B Jordan as Superman, low tracking for Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker, Kong VS Godzilla delayed, Hulk VS Wolverine, Doctor Doom in Black Panther 2 and the weirdest Michael Jackson revelation. This week. Plus recaps of both The Watchmen & The Mandalorian. Thanks for listening.Magnum Opus: https://bit.ly/37TDMrJUSB Tape: https://bit.ly/33ByrllSuggestible Podcast: https://aca.st/cf053a0:00 The Start3:50 Michael Jackson Glove Musical7:16 Star Wars TROS tracking low9:24 Missing TROS script15:21 Hulk VS Wolverine movie18:41 Kong VS Godzilla delayed20:19 Doctor Doom in Black Panther 223:38 Superman update26:27 Bond, Black Widow and Wonder Woman 84 trailers29:54 The Irishman (spoilers 53:16)55:12 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read55:52 Watchmen Spoilers58: 25 The Mandalorian1:07:05 Letters It’s Time For LettersJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP Itunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanet TWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGH Buy The Terminator Collection Amazon â–º https://amzn.to/2ocHVoD T-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. exclusively here. Oh, Buon Natale. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James Olsen, known as Mr. Sunday. With me is always my co-host Nick Mason. Sorry I'm late. I was watching The Irishman.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Oh, mate. I think maybe I'm still watching The Irishman. How many bloody weeks did it bloody take you to bloody... Did you start it before it went on bloody Netflix and you still bloody get it done on time? Oh, we'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. Pretty long for a movie, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:01:17 Oh, my God. Yeah. But it's not long for like a... It's not long for a miniseries. No, it's not. Exactly. And it's not long for like a season of things that you'll put on that'll appear on Netflix all of a sudden. Yeah, do you think it's not like for a mini series no it's not exactly it's not long for like a a season of things that you'll put on that'll appear on netflix yeah do you think it's more like the psychological aspect of it being three and a half hours that makes it be like this is long but if it
Starting point is 00:01:32 was like six to seven episodes you'd be like this is this is maybe i'm not sure i don't know yeah i don't know anything at this point uh i'll take to uh for sale aren't they, Mason? They sure are. Explain that for me. Last year, we partnered with our friends over at Audiobooksontape.com. It was a hot time. And we put some best of The Weekly Planet on a little USB cassette tape. It's not a real cassette, or it looks like a cassette. It's a little USB flicky thingy out. And you can put it in your computer or your phone or what have you,
Starting point is 00:02:03 and you can get all the best steps uh best stuff from last year's episodes but this year yes we've put all 30 of our movie commentaries on another tape i didn't know we'd done 30 commentaries isn't that wild doesn't even seem right right it's a mountain yeah anyway but it is and how many hours is it there is a bonus one that's oh on there, that being Avengers Endgame. We're not releasing that online anytime soon. So if you want to get that, it'll be on there. Yeah, now, right now, so I think there were 250 tapes on the website. They've all sold out, but you can click back order,
Starting point is 00:02:38 and the guy over there, he knocks them out real quick. So people have already got them. Oh, really? They went on sale, I don't know, like a couple of days ago. Yeah. And people already have them. So people already posted them. And they're in space age white this time.
Starting point is 00:02:50 They look great. Also, you can choose your currency. So you don't need to worry about particular conversion or what does it actually cost or whatever. Also, you can delete what's on there and replace it with anything you want. Oh, my goodness. And that's the dream. That's worth its weight in gold, I think.
Starting point is 00:03:03 That's what I did with mine. Yeah. I replaced it with 30 additional commentaries I'd done just with me. Wow. That's right. Is it just commentaries on your life? It's just you muttering under your breath. You're like at a cafe and it's like,
Starting point is 00:03:15 this is taking a bit longer in my coffee, isn't it? I'm not like this. Service anomaly, isn't it? I've discovered my new favourite thing this week. Speaking of cafes, I just remembered earlier this week speaking of cafes I just remembered earlier this week you and I went out to lunch at a cafe we brought your son along
Starting point is 00:03:30 and I've discovered my new favourite thing is attempting to convince your son that all his Transformers are named Reg he does not care for it because one of them was called Wedge and I'm like oh Reg and he's like no and I'm like oh that's Red Alert no that's Reginald Alert your friend Reg oh reg and he's like no and i'm like oh that's that red alert no that's
Starting point is 00:03:46 reginald alert your friend reginald alert he's like no you i think you did convince him that megatron's father's name is regitron yes at some point reg megatron anyway he doesn't like it at all he doesn't like it so it's fun though it's so much fun yeah it's hard not to do Yeah Well that's I mean you know I want I you know He likes you
Starting point is 00:04:08 For now I think I think he's turning around As he gets to know me He's liking me less Yeah That's probably true Anyways
Starting point is 00:04:15 First bit of news It's an odd bit of news But I thought I guess this is worth talking about Because Johnny Depp is producing A musical about the life Of Michael Jackson That will be told
Starting point is 00:04:24 From the perspective That will be told From the perspective Of the late singer's famous sequined glove. Do you want more information? No, that'll do. No, please, actually. Playwright Julian Nitzberg wrote For the Love of a Glove. I'm sorry, what? This keeps getting better and better.
Starting point is 00:04:44 An unauthorized musical fable about the life of Michael Jackson I'm sorry, what? This keeps getting better and better. An unauthorised musical fable about the life of Michael Jackson as told by his glove, which is described as a fresh revisionist look at the strange forces that shaped Michael Jackson and the scandals that bedevilled him. Do you think in this unauthorised revisionist thing, do you think he's called Michael Jackson or do you think it's like a Jackie Jomp Jomp situation where he's like...
Starting point is 00:05:07 Oh, right. Well, could it be like... Mitchell Johnson. The king of pop. Because you can write unauthorised biographies of people, can't you? Or you could say it's a parody of... I guess so.
Starting point is 00:05:17 You also can't defame the dead. Oh, really? You can say whatever you want, really. That's very interesting. Like, legally, you can't get sued for that. I didn't know that. He told Page Six that a major TV network had asked him to write a film about Jackson, but pulled out after him and the network couldn't agree over how to cover the allegations of child abuse.
Starting point is 00:05:36 So he proposed a solution. I said, how's this? Everything MJ has been accused of has actually been caused by his glove, which is actually an alien from outer space and feeds on virgin boy blood. They laughed and said, can you do the normal version? And he turned down the TV offer and decided to write this idea for the stage. Now you've made that up. None of that.
Starting point is 00:05:54 You've made up a funny joke. I mean, it's. It's one of the weirdest things we've ever said on this podcast. You've made it up. And kudos to you for making up such a weird thing to blame pedophilia alleged pedophilia uh on a magic space but i mean he's dead so i can't defame him so that's yeah uh on a magic space glove where did he acquire the space glove who's also is this in or out now i think it's like venom 3 like it lands next to him and then grabs the first thing it sees michael jackson jackson
Starting point is 00:06:24 i don't what who wants this like surely though if you're a massive fan and you're with him 100 you don't want to see a movie or sorry a play where a space alien glove makes him commit pedophilic acts yeah right you see what i'm saying i do say yes but maybe you do maybe like i told you it was the glove all along why are we talking about this? I don't know. But hang on, isn't that, that's the joke thing he said. So did he really propose?
Starting point is 00:06:52 Yeah, he proposed that and that's the one that they're making into a play. With the space glove. Yes. I still don't think this is real. I think you've seen the headline and you've riffed a bit. I went into the- And the riff's gone too far, but you've committed. I have copied exactly what was in the article.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I'm not saying the article is accurate. I'm just saying this is what was written from the source article. That's insane. Yeah. Wow. Anyway, Johnny Depp's involved for some reason. And it's called For the Love of the Glove. It's called For the Love of a Glove, colon, an unauthorized musical fable about the life of Michael Jackson as told by his glove.
Starting point is 00:07:29 In parentheses, not a pedophile. But the glove is? Asterisk. But the glove is a pedophile. So here we go. That's happening. In less controversial news, Star Wars. All right.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Yep. Less? happening um in less controversial news uh star wars all right yep less oh maybe we should maybe we should open like whenever we have an opinion about like the last jedi or something like that we could be like somebody's making a pedophile musical about michael jackson where he's not a pedophile anyway star wars news people be like thank god yeah they go out of that out of the weeds uh deadline have reported that uh the rise of sky Skywalker is looking to hit about $175 to $200 million in its opening US weekend. Good or bad?
Starting point is 00:08:08 Can't remember anymore. It's good, but also tracking means nothing. They don't know. And whenever they're like, well, it's below, it's because the estimate wasn't right. If it's below or above, it's because they guessed wrong. And they don't really, like the way that they figure that out, it's... It's almost entirely arbitrary. It's almost entirely arbitrary. It's sketchy. They don't really like the way that they figure that out. It's almost entirely arbitrary. It's almost entirely arbitrary.
Starting point is 00:08:26 It's sketchy. They don't really know. You know, sometimes it's accurate, but you know, it's like the weather. I mean, it's not like the weather because the weather is often accurate. Yeah. The weather is more, a weather report is more accurate these days than it's ever been. Yeah. Bad.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Yes. And, but, but yeah, the tracking seems to be it's wizardry at this point. It's just like pulling rocks out of a bag or whatever. I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if it's less though. It's going to because the last Jedi was 200. Because get woke broke, go broke, bro. Get woke broke, get broke broke, get broke
Starting point is 00:08:58 go broke. That's what I say. Get broke, stay broke bro. I was going to say bloke. Yeah, also works. That's less than The Last Jedi is 220 and The Force Awakens 247. So, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if it was diminishing returns. Because of Get Woke, Go Broke?
Starting point is 00:09:18 Well, no, because I think... Yeah, no, of course not. I just, I mean, I'm sure that, again, that's probably an element of it, but I think everybody who screams Get Woke, Go Broke sees it anyway. Oh, yeah, sure that, again, that's probably an element of it, but I think everybody who screams get woke, go broke sees it anyway. Oh, yeah, for sure. I think they don't boycott it, and I think they go to see it so they can scream about it regardless. Yeah, because they're cowards.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Yes, because that's what we're saying. No, so anyway, well, I hope it's good. I think the slogan should be get woke, be a good bloke. Bro. Bro. Thank you. Hashtag get woke, be a good bloke. Bro. Bro. Thank you. Hashtag get woke. Be a good bloke.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Bro. Also, I'll get all the bloody Star Wars stuff out of the way. Okay, thank you. I appreciate it. Then we'll get back to the glove thing, all right? Okay, good. John Boyega also, it was reported this week that- What do you think that-
Starting point is 00:10:00 What do you think Mark Hamill- What do you think Luke Skywalker's seven hands up to these days? I think good stuff. Probably doing charity. Probably doing charity work. Thank God. I know, right? Thank God there's some good ones out there.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Do you think Michael Jackson cuts his own arm off Evil Dead style? Like at the end of it? No, I think he just has a pill overdose. Yeah, that did happen to me, yeah. Yeah, and the glove runs away. Skitters under like a table or something? Yeah. And waits for its next.
Starting point is 00:10:24 And then it takes over. Then during like and waits for its next and then it takes so then it during like his his auction of all this stuff it takes over that statue of the michael keaton batman that's got his face on it like it jumps on that and it becomes like a a monster anyways i don't know if you remember but a script for the last jedi not the last jedi the rise of skywalker turned up on ebay i always heard about that yeah it turned out that it belonged to john Boyega. He left it in a hotel room, like, under the bed. Somebody got it, put it online.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Okay, right. It all got recovered, but that was, they didn't want to reveal who it was, but this week he was like, it was me, I did it. This is my last one, who cares? Do you think there's, like, a budget at Lucasfilm or, like, any of these places that's, like...
Starting point is 00:11:00 Lockdown budget. Lockdown budget to, like, bid on stuff on eBay or whatever. It's like, all right, it's $50,000. All right, I guess we're buying it. I think they send lawyers and cease and desist. Yeah, right, right. I'm assuming that's how they got it back.
Starting point is 00:11:15 They wouldn't buy it back, but they would spend more money than it would be to buy it back to crush the person who got that. Yeah. But do you think also you'd have to do something about, presumably the person who found it read it. Yeah. But do you think also you'd have to do something about, presumably the person who found it read it. Yeah. So they know the plot of Rise of Skywalker.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Yeah, I guess they would, yeah. So you've got to silence them, right? Yes, with a gun. With a gun, exactly, yeah. So I'm just taking my jumper off. I misread the temperature in this room, which is always the same temperature. James, what's happened here is you're recording one of your commentaries, your real-life commentaries.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I just took my jumper off. It's too hot in here. I don't like this. I'm complaining, but there's a cafe. It's too hot in this cafe. It's too broke. Broke. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:52 So what happens to the person who knows the plot details? Did they even read it? Probably, I assume. If you found the Rise of Skywalker script, would you read it? No. But I also wouldn't put it on eBay. Well, that's true, yeah. Because I'm not a moron.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what? I'd put it in an envelope, mail it to yourself. Yeah. I don't know what that means. Do what he did in The Predator. Swallow it, get on a plane. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Is that what happened in The Predator? That's what happened, yeah. The newest Predator movie? Uh-huh, yeah. Yeah. Anyways, there's still spoilers out there about it. The bloody magic glove in the bloody Predator. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Tell you what. It's a good movie. It's not. It wasn't a good movie, was it? It was a bad movie. We have. Yeah. Tell you what. It's a good movie. It's not. It wasn't a good movie was it? It was a bad movie. We have got the run time though.
Starting point is 00:12:28 It's 141 minutes which is more than The Force Awakens which is 138 but less than The Last Jedi which is the longest with 152.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Oh my goodness. So the run time is what's that? About the same. Two hours and 11 whatever that two hours and 21? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Whatever it is. The other thing is You wouldn't read it? No I really wouldn't. Would you flick to a random wouldn't read it? No, I really wouldn't. Would you flick to a random page and read a word? No, I probably wouldn't. I'd probably read Solo. Like if Solo fell in my lap.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Now? Oh, yeah. In the year 2019? Definitely. If I found a copy of Solo- Oh my God, this movie I've seen. No, I wouldn't read it. Would you read it?
Starting point is 00:13:01 Oh, I reckon maybe I'd read the opening page. Okay. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I remember when I saw Revenge of read the opening page. Okay. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I remember when I saw Revenge of the Sith. Right. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I got the video game the day before because it came out the day before for some reason. And I played the first level of that and then I turned it off because I didn't want to know. So as soon as you get to Grievous' ship or get through the first bit, I turn it off. So that's whatever the equivalent of that is. I'd do that. The other thing is my, I don't know, I think you I turn it off. Okay. So that's whatever the equivalent of that is. I do that. Okay. The other thing is my, I don't know, I think you started calling it my magnum opus because it's certainly not.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I've really bigged it up. Why have I been calling it that? It's a 34-minute kind of midi documentary about Shadows of the Empire, which is a Star Wars multimedia project, which is basically, I was going to say it's a movie. It's not a movie. It's never been a movie. It was a comic series. It was a multimedia project, which is basically, it was a, I was going to say it's a movie. It's not a movie. It's never been a movie. It was a comic series.
Starting point is 00:13:49 It was a video game. It was a toy line. It had a soundtrack. I was going to say it was a toilet. It was a toilet. Yeah. It had micro machines and weird latex masks, which you've seen sitting around in my house.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Did it have ring raiders? I don't know. Do you remember the ring raiders? Which were ring raiders? They were like little planes. Yeah. On little rings, like little plastic rings. Oh, and you ring raiders? Which were ring raiders? They were like little planes on little rings, like little plastic rings. Oh, and you launched them off? No, they didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Then crap. They didn't do anything. They were like a little plane on a ring on a little stalk, like a plastic stalk. And you were just like, whew. Ring raiders. Bad name too. Yeah, not good.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Ring raiders. Yeah. No, I don't think they had any ring raiders couldn't call them that these days no but I haven't actually PC got mad absolutely when recording this
Starting point is 00:14:29 I haven't put it out but it will be out by now so if you want to check it out I really appreciate it it's got some really cool animations in it
Starting point is 00:14:36 which is you know I mean so if the video is bad at least you've got the animations I cannot tell and I'm also I can't wait
Starting point is 00:14:42 until I've made like one critical error in it that I've missed I'm just going to get that comment for the rest of my life i can't wait till you it's pointed out you made a critical error at like minute two yeah and then you've inside your mind you can see it all branching off all the errors that are being compounded you you said to me should i take any of out any of it out and i'm like no because you were like is this interesting but i feel you've watched it probably so many times
Starting point is 00:15:05 you can't tell if anything's interesting. I did end up chipping probably a minute out of it at the end. Just like stuff that I feel like I repeat myself. But anyway, if you're very interested
Starting point is 00:15:13 in that very specific era of Star Wars, you might be keen. I think people are. Yeah, we'll see. I'm going to watch it. Opening day. I don't believe,
Starting point is 00:15:23 today? I guess. I love your enthusiasm. You didn't want to watch the opening day, but now you're like, God damn it. It's 34 minutes, you know? I mean, you shaved that minute out, but you have time. Maybe I'll put it on in the car, look at my phone and just leave it.
Starting point is 00:15:42 You'll miss the animation. So I make sure that I know that you've watched it. In relation to the Hulk news, this is what Mark Ruffalo told The Con, which is apparently some kind of source for media that I've never heard of. Maybe it's a big one. Kevin Feige asked me last week if I had any more ideas or stories for the Hulk. And I said, yeah, I still think there's some stories. Yeah, how about you give me a script for a Hulk movie and I act in the Hulk movie because that's what I get paid for.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Not to come up with your ideas, Feige, you son of a bitch. And then I got fired. I don't understand. They got Edward Norton back. Yeah. Did you see any of the interviews where he talks about the Hulk and why he wanted to make it good and whatever? No.
Starting point is 00:16:20 No, I saw some of his, like, Edward Norton's, like, iconic role. Yeah, I watched that. Video. They're good, those, aren't they? They are good. I like them a lot, yeah. And they're good because they just let them talk. No, I saw some of his like Edward Norton's like iconic role video. Yeah, I watched that. They're good those, aren't they? They are good. I like them a lot, yeah. And they're good because they just let them talk. It's not like, what's your craziest day on set? Tell me about your process.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Yeah, so I feel like if they have a lot to say and they're not, what I like about them is they're not to a particular time frame. It's not like we've got 10 minutes. Like some of them go 40 minutes. Some go 15 minutes. It's just however that. We've got 10 minutes. Like some of them go 40 minutes. Some go 15 minutes. It's just however much they want to talk. Yeah, exactly. And then often,
Starting point is 00:16:49 and then they get to their latest movie. I'm like, yeah, tell me about the latest movie. Although Jamie Lee Curtis did one recently for knives out. And she's like, I am knives that inspired me to start. Like she's going to direct a movie.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Oh really? It's coming up soon. Cause she's like, just the idea of like making a new thing and just the creative process on set and blah, blah, blah. It's called Spoons In. Thank you. And I said, yeah, there's still some-
Starting point is 00:17:15 You know what, like an ice cream sundae or something? Yeah, that's it. Wow, what a nice time for everyone. And I said, yeah, there's still some stories to tell. And he said, well, why don't you come in and tell me them and we'll see if we can find a place for you in the Marvel universe. And apparently what he spoke to them about is Hulk versus Wolverine, which I think could be pretty great.
Starting point is 00:17:31 That could be great. I mean, that's the, it's a good team up. Well, it's the team up and that's kind of the, the iconic first appearance of Wolverine was Hulk versus Wolverine. He was just like a sort of an,
Starting point is 00:17:40 just an antagonist in Canada. That would make sense. A cantagonist. A cantagonist. Which is what you call any enemies you make in Canada. That would make sense. A cantagonist. A cantagonist. Which is what you call any enemies you make in Canada. True. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:50 That would make sense, though, because they often go back to the source for a lot of this stuff. Yeah. So I didn't even think of that, but yeah, that would be a good introduction. Because there's that iconic one, and then in the ultimate Marvel universe, there was a... Yes. I'm not sure if it was ever finished. It might have been finished months or even years later.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I think every time. But there was an ultimate Wolverine versus Hulk. Can someone definitively tell us if this is finished? Tell us yes or no. Yeah. Was the series completed? Because the art was great. We don't want a I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Yes, we want a yes or no. Only if you know. Only if you know. But it's the one where people... There's an iconic panel where the Hulk tears Wolverine literally in half, like at the waist. And he has to drag himself to find his legs and put himself back together. Classic. So, you know.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Also, of course, the old man Logan Hulk showdown as well. Well, that's true, yeah. So there's been quite a few. People are constantly wondering how they're going to introduce mutants to the MCU. And maybe it's Wolverine dragging half of himself to his legs. To find his legs. That could work. How did I get here?
Starting point is 00:18:52 He says to himself. That's right. Hulk did it. Record scratch. Yep, that's me. No, that's just my legs. I could just start with his legs. Just standing there, just wobbling and then they fall over.
Starting point is 00:19:06 In other news, I was wondering what was going on with this movie because we hadn't seen a trailer. Kong vs. Godzilla was pushed from March to November. I don't know what this necessarily means. Being pushed back is often not a good sign. But it's often not the worst sign.
Starting point is 00:19:22 It's a spectrum. On one side you have new mutants and on the other side you Yeah, but because the last... It's a spectrum. Yes. On one side you have new mutants and on the other side you have a movie that was improved by this. Sonic? Yeah, Sonic. Is the release date of Sonic being pushed back? Yeah, because remember they had to redo all of it.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Yeah, I remember. Yeah. So, I don't know, maybe this is something to do with the last Godzilla movie underperforming. Maybe they're not happy with it. Maybe it's a special effects thing. Maybe it's all of the above. Maybe they're just targeting
Starting point is 00:19:47 a different November release date to kind of get a clearer shot at the box office. Maybe Kong suffered a knee injury. He might have. So don't expect to see a trailer for that anytime soon I'm assuming off the back of I remain hopeful and I'm going to expect a
Starting point is 00:20:03 trailer sometime very soon. Well that's not what I said. I said the opposite. I said wait a this news. I remain hopeful and I'm going to expect a trailer sometime very soon. Well, that's not what I said. I said the opposite. I said wait a little bit. I think now is way too early. I've waited a little bit from when you said that moments ago and I'm fully expecting a trailer. It's literally a year from now.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Sometimes they do it. Justice League was like a year and a half. I can see them dropping a teaser that's just like pan pan across Skull Island, dark, lightning bolts, and then like- Set of legs. Godzilla. Yeah, set of legs tumbling over. What did they get here? Yeah, it's just Kong's legs, smoke coming off the top of them,
Starting point is 00:20:36 like atomic breath, like a little blue glow, and then his legs tumble over. Terrific. And then it's like, yeah, that's how it's going to end. Yeah. So back to Marvel News. This is by Charles Murphy. Victor Von Doom will begin expanding.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Is that Charlie Murphy? Eddie Murphy's brother. He died. Oh. You can't defame the dead. That's true. You can say whatever you want. Is that what you said?
Starting point is 00:20:55 I don't have anything bad to say about Charlie Murphy. I don't either. No, I don't know enough about him, to be honest. I very much enjoy his Dave Chappelle skits where he talks about the 80s or whatever. Victor Von Doom will be expanding his empire, apparently. Listen to this, Mason. Oh, yes. Conquering parts of Africa and ultimately come into conflict
Starting point is 00:21:11 with the nation of Wakanda and the Black Panther, hence the introduction of Victor Von Doom into the universe. So Charles Murphy said this. Yes. Who's that? I can't remember. One of those Scoops dudes. Oh.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Yeah. From Spoons Inn. From the movie Spoons Inn. Do you think that's what they'll be doing instead of launching straight into Fantastic Four, straight into an X-Men, introduce some characters in other things and then... Maybe. We need to introduce a new big bad villain.
Starting point is 00:21:40 We don't have to, but it'd be nice. They've definitely tangled before. Has he invaded Wakanda before? Almost certainly. Because he's got his own nation. And again, yeah, I mean, you know, again, the original origin of Black Panther was a Fantastic Four crossover, so going back to the well. Going back to the well.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Also, I meant to mention this earlier, but by putting Wolverine in a Hulk movie, it means you, again, don't have to pay Universal, who still own the rights to solo Hulk movies. I see, right. So the next time we see Hulk, if at all, which we will almost certainly, it'll be another crossover, I'd imagine. Also, solo Hulk movies don't generally do well.
Starting point is 00:22:14 And also, can you imagine Comic-Con? They're doing one of their bloody timelines again and they just put up on the screen Hulk versus Wolverine. Like that's the title. Yeah. Imagine the woos. Do you think they'd call it Hulk versus Wolverine though? Maybe. Are they averse
Starting point is 00:22:30 to V movies? Yeah, I think the V movie has been, I don't know, they've sullied it. Maybe. Because there's never been a good one. Maybe that's correct. Yeah. You're forgetting we had Ford v Ferrari. Dawn of Clutches. That's what that movie is. That's apparently that movie is that's apparently
Starting point is 00:22:45 my brother who's not a Cars guy the one you don't like he loved it alright there you go but it's not it's called I feel he also likes
Starting point is 00:22:51 bad movies your brother sometimes he does so do you yeah but I feel but here's the thing I feel at least I'm consistent like my methodology
Starting point is 00:22:58 of what I like but I feel your brother's all over the place yeah that's probably true he just likes or doesn't like things entirely at random you can't get a read on it.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I can't get a read on that guy. That's why you don't like him. One of the many races. Yeah, but it's called Le Mans or whatever. Oh, Le Mans 66. Yeah, right. Which would not sell here. Nobody would see a movie here called,
Starting point is 00:23:18 except if you're a car nut. Or you like French things. Or you like French things, which everybody in Australia does not. Yes. Other than the fries, obviously. Are they even French? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:23:30 French get a bad rap, man. I've been there. I found them very nice. I've also been to France, yeah. We've both travelled. We've both travelled. I think in most countries. On a bicycle built for two.
Starting point is 00:23:38 That's right. Wearing stripy shirts and berets. The problem is, though. Baguettes in a bag. Ding, ding, ding. Yes. We're facing different directions. We're pedalling away from each other. We couldn't though baguettes in a bag. We're facing different directions. We're peddling away
Starting point is 00:23:45 from each other. We couldn't get anything done. That's right. But no I think like in most places if you make the effort to like learn
Starting point is 00:23:51 like little phrases and things. Baguette. Baguette. And all the slurs. And then all the slurs. Yes exactly. This report comes
Starting point is 00:24:00 via Variety. There was a big write up about the future of the DC universe and how they're looking to maybe fill that R-rated gap in the superhero universe, because Marvel obviously aren't going to do it, in movies at least.
Starting point is 00:24:14 So it's just, you know, they're like, more R-rated stuff and whatever, et cetera, and so forth. But one of the things they mentioned is they've yet to figure out what to do with the iconic characters of Superman and Batman. Batman is obviously further along, because that is they've cast it and it's all ready to go. But they've also been talking about J.J. Abrams about Superman. Because remember he signed that deal with Warner Brothers to produce and direct. And he's long been attached. Superman Flyby, was that him?
Starting point is 00:24:39 He wrote Flyby, but McG was going to direct it. And then Ratner. We've got a video on it. Yeah, we should have. From like years back. There was also a meeting with Michael B. Jordan where he pitched to Warners on a version of the character. However, he's not ready to commit because he's got a full slate. So if that happens, or if a Superman movie happens at all, it won't be before 2023. Because they're literally at like day dot.
Starting point is 00:25:01 They've got nothing. Yeah. Even though they've got a Superman in the universe, which people seem to like I would say would you replace would you if Michael B. Jordan
Starting point is 00:25:10 was in and he was going to be getting in on what remains of the DCEU yeah would you make him Clark Kent Superman
Starting point is 00:25:18 or would you make him a different Superman I'd make him what's the other version of Superman with the red the gold not the gold
Starting point is 00:25:23 like the silver suit if you put him in the universe from there then you do you do that version yeah right but i'm i'm not adverse to him just being clark kent i don't think it's i don't think it matters that big a deal i know that's get woke go broke or whatever you want to call it yeah and i know people say well what if black panther was white or whatever it's not the same um but to cast him what is that other version of superman called i can't remember yeah but i think that would be interesting to bring in different versions google black so i'm
Starting point is 00:25:49 gonna yeah i know this isn't very pc but i'm gonna black superman what else i remember remember his name yeah but i think there are if you're looking for a different take on superman yep then there are other versions of superman you can do yes exactly just like also there's other versions of like batman you could do dick gray. Yes, exactly. Just like also there's other versions of Batman. You could do Dick Grayson, Nightwing, who then becomes Batman. There's various versions of every character. How many Green Lanterns are there? There are other versions you could potentially touch upon.
Starting point is 00:26:14 I don't think you necessarily have to do, Rocker comes to Earth, he grows up on a farm, he discovers his powers, and et cetera and so forth. I'm kind of sick of that more than anything. Calvin Ellis is his name, I think. Is it C-A-L? It's not like Cal as in K-A-L. C-A-L, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:31 He is, oh, he's from the Multiversity, which was that parallel universe, the Grant Morrison one. He's also the president of the United States. Oh, he's that one. I was going to say, he's the president. Maybe I'm thinking, isn't there another one? Yeah, I thought there was another one. I think there's another one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Anyway, just do any version of that or whatever. Just do any version. Yeah. Anyway, maybe we'll do a video on it and I'll properly research it at some point. Yes, please. Now, apparently trailers for this week are going to be getting Bond, maybe a Wonder Woman, maybe a Black Widow. So I'll be busy, obviously, which is really exciting.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Trailer breakdowns, Easter eggs. But, yeah, so I'm kind of really interested to see what this new Bond movie is going to look like. I'm just hoping it's just not like Spectre 2. That's what I'm like. Just don't make that again. Yeah, right. But, yeah, it's going to be an interesting week. And I want to see Taskmaster.
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Starting point is 00:30:38 On with the show. On with the show. Yes, please. Get some razors. Put some razors on your face-ors. It's linked below. To mark the release of Irishman, we're going to do a three-and-a-half-hour review.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Oh, my God. Minute by minute. We're going to do an audio commentary. Oh, my God. Oh, you should have recorded that as you were watching it, in snippets. My favourite, there's been so many, I'm really just enjoying just memes.
Starting point is 00:31:03 You know I love memes. I know you love memes. My favourite reference to the Irishman on Twitter was it was a guy, I'll find it, but it was a guy saying, I'm finally enjoying Martin Scorsese's The Irishman as it was intended, and he's driving down a freeway on a motorbike, and it's like mounted in one of those GPS mounts, and he's watching it on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:31:21 It's so good. That's terrific. Yeah, because people are doing like Apple Watches and all sorts of things. Yeah, right, right, right. You watched it on your big TV, I assume? I did watch it on my relatively big TV. At some bad ideas, this guy. That sounds like a great idea.
Starting point is 00:31:36 He says, shaking my head when you're trying to focus on a three-and-a-half-hour epic about the moral decay of the men of the greatest generation in the longest continuous underwater vehicular tunnel in North America and others don't have respect for strictly observing the speed limit. It's a really good point. But there are people in his mentions who are like, I hope you know that's very dangerous.
Starting point is 00:31:52 He knows. He's not really concentrating on the Irishman. So anyway, after a limited theatre release, I don't know if it came here. If it did, it was... No, I think maybe if it came anywhere, it would have come to like Cinema Nova or the Anstor. I'm not sure it made it to like...
Starting point is 00:32:14 I kind of wish I did see it at the cinema though. I feel like it would have been like more immersive. And it would have been more immersive. And again, if you're paying 20 bucks for it or whatever, or more, you are inclined to focus. And I don't know, like, you know, Scorsese going out of his way to saying, you know, certain things are not cinema and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I feel like, has this proven his point that we've, is that part of this, that we can all watch it on our phones or in our homes or in snippets or leave and watch an hour and then come back and watch an hour later. But that's also how I watch most things. Right. Like if I'm at home. Like, because, you know, people are busy. Sure.
Starting point is 00:32:52 But maybe most people don't have three and a half hours to just sit down and, you know, when they've got... But should we have made the time? Are we the fools? Yeah, look, to be honest, like, also this cost $160 million. Okay. Okay, but first of all, what did you think... Where did it go?
Starting point is 00:33:04 Where did the money go? De-aging and, like, it's a period piece $160 million. Okay. Okay, but first of all, what did you think? Where did it go? Where did the money go? De-aging and like it's a period piece. All right, yep. I guess it's a period piece, yeah. What do you think the story was? Oh, okay. De Niro's a guy, his name's Frank Sheeran. He's Irish.
Starting point is 00:33:16 He's the Irishman. He's an Irish guy and he was in World War II and he liked killing people. He didn't like killing people, but he was like, he's okay with killing people. He seemed to like killing people. He seems to be okay with killing people, so they call him a house painter because he's like, he's okay with killing people. He seemed to like killing people. He seems to be okay with killing people, so they call him a house painter
Starting point is 00:33:26 because he's like, he paint houses, which is painting houses with people's blood. And then he gets up. Imagine a big bucket of blood. He's like, yep. That's not what we meant, Frank. No, I stored all this blood
Starting point is 00:33:36 from all the murders I did in World War II. I loved it. I put them in a pit and I shot them and they took their blood. And I'm like, what do I do with all this blood? I guess I'll paint some houses with it. Frank, you're not going to get away with this.
Starting point is 00:33:45 I don't know about that. What should we go? We don't have DNA technology. We can kind of get away with anything. If you don't see me murdering somebody, I kind of get away with it. Anyway, he gets mixed up with some maid guys because that's most Martin Scorsese movies.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Yes. This is not Goodfellas or Casino to me. No, but is it riffing on all of those things? A little bit. I think it was most interesting to me in its... I thought it was fine. I thought it got more interesting as it went. I thought it was pretty standard mob stuff for the first two hours.
Starting point is 00:34:16 But the last hour in particular deals with what happens to a man who used to paint houses. It's a metaphor. He killed people. with what happens to a man who used to paint houses. Sure. It's a metaphor. He killed people. Right, right, right. And when all of his friends are suddenly dying or dead.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Yes. It's the modern day. Nobody gives a shit. It's done. Well, there's a moment. You're contemplating your life. I'm like, maybe that should have been the majority of this movie. I mean, some spoilers for, this isn't a spoiler, I guess, technically,
Starting point is 00:34:41 but the framing story of this, it opens on Frank Sheeran in a nursing home relaying his story to some people. To Ed Sheeran. So you know he's alive now and at the end, so there's no real tension as to whether this character lives or not. But there's a scene towards the end, he's saying, and we're talking about Jimmy Hoffa and somebody, and I think it's a nurse, is like, who?
Starting point is 00:35:04 Yeah. And there are people out there who are like, you know, when Martin Scorsese started talking about, you know, Marvel movies aren't cinema, people are like, well, who's Martin Scorsese? You know what I mean? It's kind of. Which is a ridiculous thing to say. It is, but it's true.
Starting point is 00:35:18 But I mean. No, I mean just to be like, I discount all of his work. No, I know. But I mean, there are literally people who are like, I don't know who Martin Scorsese is. Yeah, okay, sure. Yeah. Yeah. Who are like, and is that but I mean, there are literally people who are like, I don't know who Mark Scorsese is. Yeah, okay, sure, yeah. Yeah, who are like, and is this Scorsese being like, well, we all lose relevance eventually kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Yeah, absolutely. It's just weird that it's come up at this point where he's said some. Oh, right, yeah, that's entirely possible. I thought the slow burn nature of it, I think, because his last movie, which I cannot for the life of me remember, what the hell is it called? Silence. There we go. Which is about bringing Christianity to the Japanese yeah it's incredible I really loved it
Starting point is 00:35:50 and I don't know there was an energy to that energy to that that this one really lacked and I think a lot of it is you're painting these 17 70 year old guys houses houses as 30 to 50 it's mysterious it's's supposed to be. It's so strange because like, and I put one clip on Twitter and it wasn't really kind of to make, because I guess it was to make fun of it because it's a ridiculous like beat down Robert De Niro scene. It's a beat down scene and it's very,
Starting point is 00:36:19 there's a scene in Goodfellas which is quite similar with like the next door neighbour. Like somebody in this one, a shopkeeper like shoves the Irishman's daughter. Yeah. And so he goes to the shopkeeper and he beats him up. Like he, he drags him out of the shop and he, and he kicks him in the street.
Starting point is 00:36:34 But that is, that is a prime example of how you can change somebody's face. Yeah. But when you're, when you're 70, 75, you can't change the physicality of a person. It's the same thing with Samuel L. Jackson in Captain Marvel.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Whenever he's, like, doing an action scene, it's like, it doesn't look right. I mean, you can, but that's way more money than it is. Well, you need to get a different person. You need a double or you need to, like, invest millions of dollars in a scene where he kicks a shopkeeper. So why wouldn't you just? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:04 And, like, the glass breaking and everything. The whole scene is odd. It's not into, the scene I don't think is entirely convincing. It is in some scenes more than others. But you mentioned that the youngified De Niro in this doesn't quite look right. Well, because he doesn't look like young De Niro. Because he's wider. He's wider.
Starting point is 00:37:19 And like, because, you know, your head changes. Yeah. Because if you look at 40-year-old De Niro, like if you look at like Goodfellas Casino Heat, that's what I was expecting to see. Here's the thing, though. And it's not that version. No, I think you're right, but I think he looks more Irish with a wider head.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Sure. He looks, you know. A big Irish head. A big Irish head. He looks like he's got a big potato head. Yeah, okay. Okay, sure. I got a big Irish head.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I know. Okay, sure. I got a big Irish head. I know. So, yeah, I just found that incredibly inconsistent and distracting. Sometimes it's quite good. Sometimes it's quite plasticky. There's things that they didn't really change.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Like old men get like watery eyes sometimes. And when you've got like a smoothed out face and like old red watery eyes, it's just. And this is ILM. This is the, but I guess this isn't there. I feel like industrial light magic, you know, when I was growing up was like, oh, if they're involved, this is going to be seamless.
Starting point is 00:38:20 How did they do it? Did they take reference footage from the earlier movies or did they just. Did they smooth it out? Did they use that iPhone? I think they just smoothed it out because the way that they often do it is they'll scan, they'll, they'll reference old movies and they'll, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:33 like they do with like Kurt Douglas and Michael Douglas, whatever. One of the Douglases. What they did is they, they euthanized Michael Douglas by taking an old photograph of old Kirk Douglas, pasting it over the top and two negatives. It made him look younger by comparison. But uh no you're right because but i feel like
Starting point is 00:38:48 i'll tell my kurt russell like they get the hair and the footage and the references yeah yeah and then they're like joe petra's like hey kid what's going on how old are you how old is he it's mysterious because yeah you look the same age i was gonna say because ilm like again they're known for high qualityquality CG and visual effects and every kind of effect, but I guess this isn't their stock in trade kind of thing. Yeah. You know, if Scorsese's burning his bridges with the people who are the best at this, Marvel, then...
Starting point is 00:39:14 Yeah, I mean, because look, it is an incredible cast, and people are saying it's good to see all these guys back, but I feel like they don't have the energy anymore. Yeah. I think they've got the energy to do the older versions because I think when they're old and when they're in even older man makeup, there's a moment where Joe Pesci is like 90 years old and he's eating bread and he's shaking
Starting point is 00:39:33 and it looks genuine. And the performance is good because he's not doing younger, he's doing his age or older. I feel like, and I wonder if this was ever discussed, if there would have been an opportunity to get Leonardo DiCaprio as the young Frank. I think they should have recast them all.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Yeah, right? Genuinely. And then do them old. Well, it's the thing. Like maybe- I think that would have been way better. Maybe a cast- I guess the dilemma is,
Starting point is 00:39:59 do you get a cast of unknowns? Yeah, right. And then, but then- But that's what they did for sort of like the godfather too yeah they recast uh what's his name brando yeah right you know what i mean and deniro doesn't look like brando at all you know what i mean so you yes yes but here's the thing there is but i also feel like we've hit that you know we talked about a while back you know when we talk about hobs and sure or fast and furious or whatever every actor has a certain list of demands of
Starting point is 00:40:24 like well i can't be seen as i'm gonna get all the actors are like or even like bohemian rhapsody where it's like well all the characters have to get an equal amount of screen time what have you yeah like is it a function of we could get younger actors but de niro requires a certain amount of screen time and if you intercut him with a younger actor that's in breach of his contract or something maybe and maybe it is distracting because people know him so well. It's like recasting Harrison Ford as Han Solo or whatever. Maybe that would be more distracting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:52 But I don't know. I just found it. But this is pretty, I mean, if that's a 10, if recasting is a 10 on a level of distracting, then this CGI is a nine. Yeah, absolutely. And if you look at like, I was just thinking about like Taxi Driver, again, good fellas.
Starting point is 00:41:07 There's that vicious scene that beat down in the bar where they get that guy down and De Niro's just stomping this guy. I feel like this is actually quite mild. Yeah, absolutely. There's such an energy to De Niro being that much younger that they just is not here. And again, I think it works in the back end
Starting point is 00:41:24 when they're supposed to be the ages that they are. I here and again i think it works in the back end when they're supposed to be the ages that they are yeah i think it's really good then to constant to con to constantly go back to the scene that you tweeted i don't if when i watch that i i if i'd been thrown through like a glass door by deniro i still feel like i'd have the energy to just scamper out of his way yeah totally this guy's just like, oh, I'm on the ground. I don't care for this. And maybe it's like a fear thing as well. But the sound effects don't match up. It's just an odd scene.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Yeah. Something I like. I mean, it's worth a watch, I feel. Oh, definitely. You know what I liked? Again, there is a good all-star cast in it, for the most part. Anna Paquin's in this. I don't know if anybody noticed she's in this.
Starting point is 00:42:07 I'd forgotten that she was in it until she turned up at like the three-hour mark maybe, but she's really good as well. Well, Jessie Plemons again, barely in it as well. There's what I'm enjoying. I don't know how much improvising is allowed on set, but I felt a lot of the dialogue. There's just some, I guess, throwaway dialogue in some of the scenes in this movie.
Starting point is 00:42:31 There's a scene where Jesse Plemons' character is apologising. Everybody gets in a car and he has to apologise because he had to pick up a fish for someone. It was a frozen fish and it thawed and it made the seats wet. And there's this conversation about what kind of fish was it yeah why didn't you clean it up what's wrong with you this play the car's always going to smell like fish there's a there's a scene i liked that yeah yeah there's some scenes about like uh pacino who plays jimmy hoffer yeah uh he's he's very concerned about time and being on time oh i love If you love a movie about Pacino being very particular about when people do
Starting point is 00:43:07 or do not show up for a meeting, then you are going to love this. Ten minutes is too long, but five minutes is good enough, and maybe I'm accounted for traffic, and it's rude of you, and I was here early. Yeah. There's a character the the actor whose name i cannot recall but he's in snatch he plays tommy in snatch and he was al capone i think in boardwalk empire maybe okay yeah and he is he is a british actor i think he's sort of carved out a
Starting point is 00:43:36 niche he's like a as a kind of a mob guy he's he's done a lot of mob roles and he plays the rival union boss who he and Jimmy Hoffa have a rivalry and I think he's great in this. Oh yeah, I completely agree. Yeah. Because he's the age that he is. He's the age that he is and he's playing the age that he is. Yeah. It also does the thing where I felt there's a casino.
Starting point is 00:44:00 One of the things I don't like about the movie Casino and this movie does it. Is it Robert De Niro's many salmon-coloured suits? No, I like that a lot. That's great. But they often start referencing and montaging things that, and it's this more so, that are irrelevant and they don't really factor into the story. It's like, you know, it's like-
Starting point is 00:44:18 Also, just side note, here's us criticising Martin Scorsese. Oh, yeah, look, again, I like- I don't think there's a movie of his I don't like except for Gangs of New York, which I really don't like. I should re-watch Gangs of New York. Maybe we should both re-watch Gangs of New York. You know, it's like, what were we doing? They were getting the money from Jimmy the Fix,
Starting point is 00:44:34 and Jimmy the Fix had to throw it over to Johnny No Legs, who kept it in the safe before Sammy Too Ears showed up, and he was like, they shot him, and it's just like, what is this? Who cares? It went from here to here to here or whatever and again i have a theory about that which is that martin scorsese knows a lot of made guys like real mob guys yeah and he's promised them all minor roles in all of his movies he has to get through all of them so he's like do you want a scene where you get handed up an envelope full of money and then you walk across the street you hand the envelope of money
Starting point is 00:45:04 to another guy? Yeah. Sure, I'll do it. Sure. Do you know what I mean? I just find that stuff really like, maybe it's a callback or a throwback, but it's just like we don't, I don't know, again,
Starting point is 00:45:14 what am I saying? It's fucking Martin Scorsese. I don't know what I'm talking about, but I just found it so interesting, the back end of this guy's life. Yeah. I don't even think he regrets what he's done necessarily because he's clearly not that sorry he just doesn't want to he's done a lot of murders
Starting point is 00:45:30 yeah but he just he doesn't want to die and he's sad that nobody likes him because he sucks you know and i think that's really interesting because i don't think he had i don't think he had a problem with killing anybody i think he was that kind of guy but he was he still has these regrets because his family hate him. And I feel like a lot of people are potentially not going to get to that last hour. Yeah, right. Because they've got,
Starting point is 00:45:54 they get, it is a lot of Johnny No Legs passing an envelope of cash. Sure. If we're doing Martin Scorsese's entity. I hate doing this because there's no way I could make anything anywhere near as good as this here's the thing though
Starting point is 00:46:08 maybe something we know that Martin Scorsese doesn't know is that we all have the attention spans of goldfish at this point and we know how Netflix works and I don't think Martin Scorsese knows how Netflix works and that people are going to have 10,000 other options could this have
Starting point is 00:46:24 benefited more from more flashbacks to, well, not flashbacks, to more present day stuff of Frank being an old man and people not caring about his life? Absolutely, definitely. And then minor flashbacks, because there is like a World War II flashback. It's maybe a minute. And I think it's really effective because first of all
Starting point is 00:46:46 you don't really see the de-aging and he's supposed to be like 24 or whatever. Yeah, right, because he's got a helmet on. He's got a helmet on for the most part
Starting point is 00:46:51 but it's right over his face. He's on backwards. He's on backwards and you get an idea of what kind of man he is immediately and then all the vicious kind of stuff
Starting point is 00:47:00 he does from there because he's so slow and you can see their old hands and the kind of hunch and the way they, you notice it when they're going up and down stairs and things like that. Yeah, right. And he's clearly wearing stilts for like the big shoes for a lot of it,
Starting point is 00:47:13 which we know from the, yeah. Set photos, yeah. Yeah, so whatever the thing you said is yes. Yeah, right. In answer to your question. I mean, if that is what this movie is about, I guess all of the Scorsese mob movies are about, well, people do bad things and redemption is just kind of out of reach and people are often like, well, I kind of regret some of the stuff I did,
Starting point is 00:47:32 but now it's too late because I'm in jail or I got blown up. Yes. Most of these movies are about that. But if this movie is a left turn from that and it's like, because with Goodfellas and with with casino and those ones we don't really see that much about like the end of the end of the life and and somebody who survived all this blade the bloodshed and mayhem or whatever what are their lives turned into and i think that that is maybe the most interesting part of like what what happens
Starting point is 00:48:01 to a sad old guy and like he's got all this stuff and people are like, whatever old man, who cares about this Jimmy Hoffa guy you're talking about? I don't care. And it kind of makes me think about the end of Goodfellas. Yeah. Where Ray Liotta's character, who crushes it in that movie,
Starting point is 00:48:14 by the way. Ray Liotta's amazing in that movie. Ray Liotta's not back in this, even for a minute. No. It doesn't really do this kind of stuff. No, I guess that's true. You know, he's a suburban guy.
Starting point is 00:48:23 And I'm not saying I want a Goodfellas sequel because I certainly do not. But like, it did make me think about... Even better fellas. Yeah, that's right. Not as goodfellas. Yeah, but it did make me think about like... On fleek fellas.
Starting point is 00:48:35 What's in current reference? I don't even know. Dabbing fellas. Dab fellas. TikTok fellas. But what happened to that guy? And again, I don't want to see it, but it made me think about there's so much that you could explore in that.
Starting point is 00:48:50 I know there's a movie I've been meaning to watch for years, which is about the final years of Sherlock Holmes, where he's got one more case, and it's Ian McKellen. He's like 95 years old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's supposed to be great. I have it. I've been meaning to watch it,
Starting point is 00:49:00 but I'm just hitting the same drum here. But yeah, I don't know. I think it was wildly inconsistent, but also I wonder if that last hour would have worked if I hadn't seen the two hours prior. That's what I'm talking about. If you want this to be a breezy watch, what do you cut out? It's not the
Starting point is 00:49:15 breeziness of it, because I wasn't like oh my god, this is fucking excruciating. I did. Fair enough, yeah. I guess there were moments. Well, look, maybe I didn't initially, but I think I got to like. It definitely sags in the middle. I got to like one 18 left, like one, like an hour. And I remember distinctly like one hour and 18 left.
Starting point is 00:49:34 And then I watched it for a really long time, a really long time. And then I paused it for a second and had like one hour 10 left. And I'm like, what happened? What's, what's going on? I don't understand. We should have a segment called, We Fix a Beloved Auteur's Movie. By just cutting some stuff out.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Just cutting some stuff out. What would we cut out of this idiot's movie? But I guess. But what if it was like. What beloved auteurs are really left, I guess idiot's movie? But I guess... But what if it was like... What beloved auteurs are really left, I guess? Yeah, Nolan, I guess. I guess we'd have to go back to some old stuff and be like, what are we cut out of this?
Starting point is 00:50:13 But I think... Can you imagine if it was leaner and faster and more vicious? And then when he's old, I think that's more of an interesting contrast because he's not that different when he's 90 to when he's supposed to be 40. Yeah, right. You know? Like when you see a guy, prime prime of his life stomping a man's head in
Starting point is 00:50:29 yeah and then he's in a nursing home and he's all like the nurses are being friendly and nice to him that's weird you know what i mean like it's strange yeah but yeah i don't know i don't know what's with is fucking wine and bread a thing because i'm pretty confident it isn't i don't understand i mean i know you carpenter is a thing? Because I'm pretty confident it isn't. I don't understand. I mean, I know you- Scarpetta is a thing. Yeah, sure. You've got a pasta sauce. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:50:49 And you put the bread in there and you're like- Get that happening. Get that, oh, I don't want to waste this sauce. Yum, yum, yum. You know it. But I don't know. Maybe it's probably a Catholic thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Yeah, I figured it's some kind of reference like that. Also, he's not very Irish, is he? If we're honest. He's barely Irish. No, exactly. If you were like- Theorite might be Irish, I don't know. If you were honest. He's barely Irish. No, exactly. The hero might be Irish. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:05 If you were like, all right, look away from the screen. Don't look at his big potato-y Irish head. Listen to his dialogue. Where's he from? Which one of these guys is Irish? Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, we haven't really done spoilers,
Starting point is 00:51:17 but I don't really have anything to say in terms of spoilers. I don't think there is anything to spoil. I mean, again, we know the main character lives to the modern era. Yeah. Jimmy Hoffer is like a Teamster union boss. Yes. Who famously disappeared, I feel. So the circumstances of his disappearance are explored in this.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Yeah. Or are they? Like, is this an unreliable narrator who's like... Yeah, I guess you'd have to look at the real story, which I'm not really familiar with. No one knows. No one does know. It's a real...
Starting point is 00:51:51 That prime minister that drowned in Australia. Harold Holt. Herald Holt. The situation. Picked up by a submarine. So they say. Yeah, that's right. I don't see how.
Starting point is 00:51:57 You can't open a submarine underwater. They do it at Terminator Salvation Star. I was about to say, yeah. But that was in the future. Right. I don't know. It wasn't a 19... Do we have more to say about Mark Scorsese's The Irishman? I mean, I'll 100% watch the next thing he's doing as well.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Yeah, right. I like, like, I really like Wolf of Wall Street. I really liked Silence, Goodfellas Casino, you know. Yeah. There was less, there was less, I feel, the spoils of war kind of like. Oh, like really reveling in the. Yeah. Because I guess.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Because it was. Because that's not. I guess that's not what the Irishman's about. He's just like, I want to provide for my family or whatever. But like these kind of movies often are like, I'm in a casino and there's cash raining on me and diamonds. And I'm throwing diamonds on Sharon Stone or whatever. You know? She doesn't like it.
Starting point is 00:52:45 They're sharp. But I'm doing it. I'm doing it regardless. Yeah, I don't know, man. Best movie ever? Best movie ever. Look, this movie from Renando to Martin Scorsese is definitely worth a watch.
Starting point is 00:52:57 If that back-end stuff about regret and old age appeals to you, stick through it, I would say. I wonder if there's a weird edit order you could do it in to make it seem more... Could you watch the back end first somehow? I don't know. I don't... I'll probably not watch this again.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Yeah, right, fair enough. Would you watch this again? Okay, could you as an option not watch this movie again? Yeah, yeah. Cool, cool, cool. Would you not watch this movie again? Do you think there's an editing order where you could just simply not watch the film?
Starting point is 00:53:27 What would that look like? Could you simply listen to our review again? Yeah. I would actually be really interested in what people think of this. Yeah. Because there's a lot of people loving it, but I am seeing people who are like, oh, it's boring and it sucks and it's... And bloody, what's his name, who?
Starting point is 00:53:43 Scorsese who or whatever, you know? Robert De Niro who? Robert De Niro or whatever, you know? Robert De Niro who? Robert De Niro. Harvey Keitel who? Robert De Niro. Oh, yeah, nice. Got him. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Got him. Oh, yeah, Harvey Keitel's in this. Yeah. I was like, oh, my God, Harvey Keitel's. Oh, he's not really in this. Ray Romano's good in this. Yeah, he's sort of the mob lawyer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Not a mob lawyer. He's a union lawyer. He's a mob lawyer. He's a mob lawyer. Let's not beat around the bush He's good in this I did like at the end I guess This is a spoiler
Starting point is 00:54:10 That they're like He's like Call my lawyer And he's like Everyone's dead idiot Everyone you know Is dead Just tell us what went on
Starting point is 00:54:19 And he's like I won't do it I won't do it I thought that was interesting I won't give you no names Yeah Yeah Exactly Well you can give us the name Of all the dead people Which is everyone Yeah that's right I won't do it. I thought that was interesting. I won't give you no names. Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Well, you can give us the name of all the dead people, which is everyone. Yeah, that's right. Exactly. Because actually there was a thing kind of happening where like they'd show a guy and then they'd flash up on screen, shot in the head this year, had a heart attack in this year. And I'm like, why are they doing this? Who cares?
Starting point is 00:54:40 Right. Then obviously it's because by the time you get to the end, it's like, oh, that's showing that all these people are just slowly being whittled away from his life. I guess that's true, but also... Also I was thinking like, how many of these guys did he kill? Right, but also I guess you don't
Starting point is 00:54:56 really, like many of these characters are just kind of background characters. For the three hours we get, like the two plus hours in the past, we don't really see him with that many friendships. Yeah. So the fact that some guy got whacked or like, you know, he got shot or hanged or whatever or shivved 19 times in the head or whatever, it doesn't feel like that much of a loss.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Yeah. Like if he had some genuine friendships in that era and then we see that character killed. I mean, I guess there is that. There's that one that happens. Yeah, right. It's like a genuine one. But yeah. Because that's actually one thing about Goodfellas is when the people around and close to him
Starting point is 00:55:36 die, it affects the Ray Liotta character like greatly and that changes the course of his life. Yeah. Because they were goodfellas. Because they were good mates. Friendfellas. Friend fellas. Friend fellas. Best fellas.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Best fellas. They all used to kiss when the cameras turned off. That's great. That's a little behind the scenes. That's nice. That's really good. That's good. They're Italian.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Yeah, now I get it. One of them is maybe Irish. All right, the next segment. Yeah, what are we reading? What are we going to read? Oh, my goodness. I'm doing a thing what are we reading
Starting point is 00:56:11 today I was gonna say contained within this segment obviously what we reading I think it's now a regular feature is our feature
Starting point is 00:56:18 who watches the TV show Watchmen parentheses James and Mace so asterisk weekly planet podcast it's a good show if somebody could knock that up in show Watchmen, parentheses, James and Maiso, asterisk, Weekly Planet Podcast.
Starting point is 00:56:27 It's a good show. If somebody could knock that up in the Watchmen font, that would be really good. Yeah. Also, do you reckon we should edit this into a spin-off podcast, just a four-minute podcast of us going, yeah, it was good. I think I liked the last one. It was pretty good. It was good, yeah. I liked the last one.
Starting point is 00:56:39 The squid wasn't in that one, but I liked it. The squid, this one. Do you want to talk about Watchmen up top? Yes. Okay. Spoilers for the last episode of Watchmen. Yeah, right. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:56:48 It's gone in some good directions. You called the- I did call this one. It was Hood of Justice. It was African American all along. That was really, I really liked that. Because I saw the trailer for the next episode, and it's like, it's a trip down memory lane.
Starting point is 00:57:01 And I'm like, boo, I don't want to trip down memory lane. Why don't you want a trip down memory lane? Because prequels, man. Okay, right. But I really liked it. I thought every episode seems to really build really well off the last one. Yeah, and everyone has an interesting take. I mean, TV should, I guess.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Yes. This is an example of competently made television. Competently made serialized narrative. What a twist. What a twist. Yeah, but I thought what an interesting way to enact justice in a way
Starting point is 00:57:30 that won't have people come after you in that era. It seemed like it would have been a necessity, not just like in this universe, but if a similar thing happened now, it just wouldn't happen that way. You know what I mean? And they explore the relationship between him and Captain Metropolis,
Starting point is 00:57:46 which, and he doesn't believe him about the cult and the whatever and all that. Yeah. I just thought it was great. What about you? And there's some, you know, some revelations as to how the present day version of him,
Starting point is 00:57:59 who is in a wheelchair managed to hang the police chief. Yes. He's got him to hang himself with a hypnotic strobe light. I thought it was also interesting that maybe he wasn't a Klan member, but he's clearly got Klan ties because he's kept this thing. Yeah, right. But I'm like, why would you have that? Well, that's a-
Starting point is 00:58:16 They'd be like keeping your grandpa's Nazi uniform. Why do they keep all the Confederate statues up? I don't know. That's a good question. Yeah. What do you think it's going from here? We didn't get any Ozymandias this episode. No, the next episode we definitely don't. They're all kind of's a good question. Yeah. What do you think it's going from here? We didn't get any Ozymandias this episode. No.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Well, next episode we definitely don't. They're all kind of self-contained. Yeah. And what is interesting to me is a lot of these episodes are kind of self-contained. Yeah. But it all does feel like a larger narrative. I'm not like, well, this is disjointed and weird. It feels like we're heading for a cliffhanger, though.
Starting point is 00:58:41 At the end of the season? Oh, yeah, for sure. It'll be the return of Dr. Manhattan or Ozymandias will be back or there'll be a second squid oh no do you think clones
Starting point is 00:58:50 might be the new squid mmm you know what I'm talking about clones like a delicious dish clones are the new squid oh yeah for sure
Starting point is 00:58:57 yeah yeah fish and chip shop and get some battered clones they deep fry a portion of your own clone flesh and you eat it. Delightful.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Like a creep. I don't know, because Lady True has some kind of cloning technology. Yeah, absolutely. I don't know. Anyway, anything else on this? Do you want to talk about Mandalorian? Yeah. It was all right.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Wait, our famous segment, who watches the TV show The Mandalorian? James Mason. Asterisk Weekly Planet Podcast. If somebody could make that in the Star Wars font or in an opening crawl, I would appreciate it. This felt like a very expensive episode of, say, like, Walker Texas Ranger. Xena Warrior Princess.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Anything like that. But also those tropes obviously go way back to like, you know, like your Seven Samurais. Yeah, I mean, I guess there is kind of a, it's very much, if you were on board with this show generally, you'd be like, oh, this is a throwback to classic hero storytelling techniques. But if you are not, you'd be like, well, this is quite formulaic in the sense that, I mean, spoilers for The Mandalorian. Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:04 That, you know, he goes to the town and he's initially hesitant because he's all about duty and being The Mandalorian and Mandalorian about the universe or what have you. But then he finds that it's a place he really could settle down and enjoy, but then there's trouble. But then he learns to,
Starting point is 01:00:20 maybe he falls in love with the widower, the beautiful widower that lives there. Cool. But also, and then he solves all the problems, and then maybe it is time to settle down, except they've found him and he has to go. Has to go. It feels like this idea that the only reason he's turning around
Starting point is 01:00:40 and thinking about settling down is because narratively we know he can't. Yes. Because we know that can't yes because he because we know that there's something that's immediately the rest of the series isn't going to be him yeah right farming exactly yeah great inclusion of the atst it's like this monster in the woods it actually the whole thing reminded me of battle for endor that ewok movie yeah because they got a they got a it's like a gang of marauders and and there's a gang of uh peaceful villagers you gotta learn to fight it's very care which, it all calls back to whatever and whatnot. But Gina Carano I thought was really great.
Starting point is 01:01:10 She's good. I hope she shows up again as opposed to – Have you seen Haywire? I think we talk about it every time. But they dubbed her voice in that apparently. And this – she's better, I assume. I'm going to look her up very quickly because I'm not really sure what she's been in other than those two things. Probably a Fast and Furious movie.
Starting point is 01:01:27 She's probably been in a Fast and Furious movie. Because Ronda Rousey was in Seven. Yes, she's in Deadpool. Oh, she is too. Yeah, that's right. She's good in Deadpool. Mixed martial arts record. Seven wins, three by knockout.
Starting point is 01:01:37 One by submission, three by decision. Oh. One loss by knockout. Probably the last fight. Notable relatives at Glenn Carano. He's got his own Wikipedia page. I'll check out that later. Open a tab.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Anyway, blah, blah, blah, television and film career. She was at Cameo and Kill Bill Volume 1. She's a witness at the wedding. Really? Yeah, apparently. But there's no... There's no... Can't click on it.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Can't click on it. She was in a cult film called Ring Girls. She's in Command and Conquer Red Alert 3. With Jim Carrey? I hope Girls. She's in Command and Conquer Red Alert 3. With Jim Carrey. I hope so. See you in that one. Where they go to the one place capitalism can't touch. Outer space.
Starting point is 01:02:11 She's in a Michael J. White film Blood and Bone in 2009. She's in Haywire. In the Blood, an action thriller directed by John Stockwell. She signed on as lead in an all-female ensemble action film described as the female version of Expendables. Oh, I remember that. She's in Fast and Furious 6. Oh, she is.
Starting point is 01:02:27 She's on the Rocks team before he joins the Fast and Furious team. Did she betray him or anyone? Doesn't matter. Keep reading. No, she fights Michelle Rodriguez, though. Oh, okay. In July 2013, she and comic book creator Rob Liefeld
Starting point is 01:02:41 announced they were working on a big screen adaptation of Liefeld's Evangeline. Now, if you don't know Evangeline, Evangeline was like prime 90s... It's like Barbarella or Stripperella or whatever. Yeah, she was like Fallen Angel kind of character, but she was in that prime era of female depictions in comic books where they had like the...
Starting point is 01:03:00 Martini glass waist. Yeah, the martini glass waist and like the big boobs and the big butt and every shot of the character was like that super weird cheesecake where they're like snapped, like they're twisted so you can see their boobs and their butt
Starting point is 01:03:12 at the same time. You know that shot? Yeah. And then he's got a big sword or whatever. You know? Great stuff. Anyway, that doesn't seem to have happened. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:21 She's in Deadpool. There we go. They did a test footage and she got a severe injury from doing that pose. Yeah. Anyway, good for her. Good for her. Yeah, anyway, I really liked her in this
Starting point is 01:03:30 and I hope she comes back because a lot of these characters kind of zip in and zip out. I wonder whether he's building a ragtag team. Yeah, right. Like at the end he's got... He's got Gina Carano. Gina Carano's got Carl Weathers.
Starting point is 01:03:39 He's got an IG-88 version or whatever. They think they'll put him back together? Put his head back together? Or another version. There's millions of those things. The Kindly Widow? Kindly Widow, nah, nah. She can shoot, come on.
Starting point is 01:03:51 No, but it's love. I think he might be assembling a ragtag team. Yeah, right. Glenn Carano was on the Dallas Cowboys. Excellent. Which is a football team. Someone on... Was it just a set of Cowboys? It was some Dallas Cowboys.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Uh, somebody on the planet, uh, broadcasting great mates, Facebook group. Who? I'm going to find out, uh,
Starting point is 01:04:12 had a theory. Well, not a theory, but, but was basically, uh, wouldn't it be good if the Mandalorian was revealed to be a lady? Oh,
Starting point is 01:04:21 right. How good would that be? Oh man. They, they Samus around it. They Samus around it from Metro. I would be shocked? Oh, man. They Samus-er-an it. They Samus-er-an it from Metroid. I would be shocked. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Because they've clearly cast a man. Pedro Pascal, yeah. But, I mean. You can alter the voice or whatever. That's what I'm saying. Voice modulator. And people are like, well, it's not a very Lady Arbor, is it? Phasma.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah. They're like, well well we've seen a lady version of it because there's a late the blacksmith is a lady black and she's wearing lady i can't be two ladies but that's what i'm saying but i mean like some people dress in a more femme in the real world some people can dress like and in different ways i don't know if you're aware of that i don't believe you yeah i saw a ben uh who edits a lot a lot of great stuff including caravan and garbage uh comment on a tweet that was like i can't believe you yeah i saw ben uh who edits a lot of great stuff including caravan and garbage uh comment on a tweet that was like i can't believe that the only person who could
Starting point is 01:05:09 shoot in the village turned out to be the woman like how how why is she the only one where did she learn to shoot uh-huh people learn to people learn to shoot places what do you want a fucking mini series about where she yes yes yeah god oh i'm now i'm fired up For Kindly Widow The Kindly Widow Mandalorian font But also Also those people don't Boom boom boom boom
Starting point is 01:05:31 People like that Don't want Kindly Widow Explain a series Of why they could Shoot anyway Anyway But I think also
Starting point is 01:05:38 People don't know That apparently That Samus Aran The big reveal That she Samus Aran in Metro Metroid was a woman Isn't that generally loved Yeah I think so That reveal People like, Samus Aran in Metroid was a woman.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Isn't that generally loved? Yeah, I think so. That reveal? People like that reveal. People blow their minds. Are we going to say people already knew? No, a lot of people didn't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:55 A lot of people now don't know that that was a big reveal at the time. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Like it's commonly known that she's a woman in the modern games, but I think. Well, yeah, I think it's one of those things that I always, because I saw it in a Nintendo magazine or whatever, so I always knew, yeah. Also, if we're talking about what we're reading, what we're going to read,
Starting point is 01:06:07 Chip Zdarsky, Jason Liu with Colours by Paris Alleyne, they've worked together on a Comixology exclusive comic called Afterlift, which is basically an Uber driver who's tasked with taking somebody to the underworld. Oh, that's fun. And it's a couple issues in, and it's, I mean, all those people involved are good, and I think, yeah, it's definitely couple issues in and it's I mean all those people involved are good
Starting point is 01:06:25 and I think it's definitely worth a read if you like comics about I mean old lore versus bloody millennial tech
Starting point is 01:06:34 Mason you're gonna love After Lift you like Chips and Zadarsky I do like Chips and Zadarsky yeah I watched a on YouTube
Starting point is 01:06:43 it was Scarlett Johansson and Chris Evans interview each other yeahlett Johansson and Chris Evans. Interview each other on it? Yeah, that thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Chris Evans recently was in a play called Lobby Hero. Oh, yeah? I don't know if that's relevant to anyone,
Starting point is 01:06:53 but I just thought that was interesting. It's a security guard in his late 20s, his strict supervisor, an overbearing cop, and his rookie female partner. It's set in the foyer of a middle-income Manhattan apartment building in the middle of the night. Okay, there you go. Not fun. I like Chris Evans. I the night. Okay, there you go. Not fun.
Starting point is 01:07:05 I like Chris Evans. I do too. Why don't you marry him? Is he already married? I don't think he is. He's married to his dogs. Good for him. He loves dogs, Mason.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Oh my goodness. That's really good. Not in a weird way, I assume. Is that right? Anything else? I like that Mandalorian thing. Yeah, it's good. But again, can't recall it
Starting point is 01:07:22 off the top of my head. Same guy who scored Community. Oh. Yeah. Which I'm actually re-watching at the moment. How's that going? It's good. It's actually, yeah, good. But again, can't recall it off the top of my head. Same guy who scored Community. Oh. Yeah. Which I'm actually re-watching at the moment. How's that going? It's good. It's actually, yeah, I'd forgotten.
Starting point is 01:07:29 I was kind of like, is that good? It still holds up. I mean, it's still dated because it started like 10 years ago. But there's a lot of funny stuff in there. Nice. I love funny stuff. Magnitude. Incredible.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Oh, yeah. Anything else? No, that's about it, I reckon. Should we do letters? Yeah. Let's talk about letters. The classic one was letters, oh, letters. Good speaker on that. I Let's talk about letters. The classic one was letters, oh letters. Good speaker on that.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Give a few, some letters. They're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. It's got 11,000 views. That can't be right. No, it is because it's on YouTube, obviously. Have we done 11,000 shows?
Starting point is 01:07:59 We've done 11,000 episodes, yeah. That actually makes a lot of sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, if you want to reach the show, hashtag WeeklyPlannerPod on Twitter or shoot an email over to Weekly planet pod at gmail shoot an email shoot an email that's our new call to action shoot our email uh shoot our email shoot our email yes is that what i said or is that what you said that's what i'm saying shoot our email i'm saying
Starting point is 01:08:19 it too then if you're saying it on my board yes and mason thank you uh if you want to go first or do you want me to go first? Go first. I've got one right here. It's from Spudbear. It says, what's the best live-action Joker design? Not characterization or performance, but just the way they look. Live-action. Is it Cesar Romero for you?
Starting point is 01:08:40 That's a really good question. We've talked about it before, but I like elements of the Jared Leto one. Everything but the tattoos I really like. Yeah, I like it as well. I like the fact that he's not strictly in a costume. He's just wearing really garish, like gold tuxedos or whatever. He looks like Mickey Rourke just walking down the street. I don't know if you've ever seen Mickey Rourke in his daily life.
Starting point is 01:08:57 I absolutely have. It's all snakeskin shoes and tuxedo jackets in the daytime. He's got it going on. Yeah, I genuinely like that design. I also like that when he went to rescue Harley Quinn, he put on white tie and tails. It was very nice. It was like a special occasion.
Starting point is 01:09:09 That is nice, yeah. I like Jack Nicholson's version. I don't. Well, I like him. I like everything but the face. Yeah, right, right, right. I like the suits and the guns and the weird stuff. I actually like his look more when he's just Jack Napier.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Oh, okay, yeah. Because it's meant to be reminiscent of his character in Chinatown. Well, then you must love the movie Chinatown. I do like the movie Chinatown. Are they doing a prequel to that or something? Oh. Yeah. China just a couple of shops on a street that isn't quite finished yet.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Empty street town. What's going to be built here? Did you see the sequel to that? The Two Jakes, yes Not good, right? He's still got that bandage? The injury to his face has healed by the time of The Two Jakes Did they write that into the movie because he had an actual injury in real life?
Starting point is 01:09:58 I don't know, I couldn't tell you I can tell you that his father was in the Dallas Cowboys I don't believe you No, it's probably for the best. Like a group of cowboys? Yeah, I mean, Ledger, obviously, as well. Oh, yeah, no, actually, that design I like a lot. I like the way the makeup kind of rots off over the course of the movie,
Starting point is 01:10:16 like he's just slept in it. Yes. Yeah. A lot of people have pointed out to me that, speaking of Joker, you can't just put green dye in your hair because it'd come out. Yeah. He would have had to bleach his hair first. Yeah, he would have.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Yeah, because his hair's dark, so it wouldn't come out. Also, I hate that design. I don't like any aspect of it. I don't like his big underpants. I don't mind the suit. Yeah. Yeah, because it kind of sees a remnant of this. You know, I like Ledger's design a lot, except for the tie,
Starting point is 01:10:45 which I think is incongruous with the rest of the outfit. Do you think that's too... That's what you come here for, insights about the tie. But isn't that to annoy you specifically? I think it is kind of to annoy me specifically. I think Christopher Nolan, because if you've seen Christopher Nolan, like a lot of his characters dress like him. Yes.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Like in characters Inception and whatever, dress like Christopher Nolan. And I think maybe that is designed to annoy specifically people who dress like him. Yes. Like in characters Inception and whatever dress like Christopher Nolan and I think maybe that is designed to annoy specifically people who dress like him. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Okay, fair enough. Son of a bitch Christopher Nolan. Son of a bitch. Do you want to read a letter out? Yes, I do. This is from Looper Ward.
Starting point is 01:11:17 I think they've all got good stuff about them. Yeah, I think so too. I was serious about the Cesar Romero thing. I think that totally works for that era. Also, I like that
Starting point is 01:11:23 Heath Ledger's version has a coat full of hand grenades. Yeah, that's terrific. At all times, do you reckon? Yeah, pretty much, I reckon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if somebody shoots him in the wrong spot, he's done and he's okay with that.
Starting point is 01:11:33 This is from a guy named Looper Ward. Love it. He says, my name is Looper. That's the subject. Is that it? Is that the whole email? Yeah, that's it. My name is Looper.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Is it short for something? Yeah, Looper. Email back, Looper. I want to know what the origin of your name is. This can't be a nickname, surely. Looper Random. Looper Random? No, that doesn't work.
Starting point is 01:11:51 My name is Looper, so your last episode was very enjoyable, if not kind of weird, like when you said Looper Juices. I did not like the Looper movie, but my question to you would be, if you had a movie with your name as the title, what genre would you want it to be, and would you prefer it to be really bad or really good? Also, can I be the official looper of the podcast? Bad.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Bad movie. You want a bad movie with the name James? Mr. Sunday Movies. Oh, no. There's plenty of bad movies with that bloody title in them. Oh, my goodness. Are you going to go nostalgia critic style? Are you going to fund your own movie?
Starting point is 01:12:24 I'm going to do it nice and it's all the wacky adventures of us and I saved the universe at the end oh my goodness that's exciting
Starting point is 01:12:30 but it has to be a movie called James when you think of a movie a movie called James sounds like a serious movie about a guy
Starting point is 01:12:36 who becomes the president or something well that sounds like a Kevin Kline movie where he accidentally becomes the president that sounds whimsical to me
Starting point is 01:12:43 it might be a bit whimsical but if it was Jimmy then it would be like... About Jimmy Hoffa. It would be another movie about Jimmy Hoffa. You can change James where it kind of changes the context. What do most people call you? James, surely. I get a mix, but James mostly, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:56 It has to be a movie called James. Yes. See, I think it would be about a president, I think. Like it would be humanising whatever president was called James. Whichever one. I'm sure there was one. James Patterson. James McAllister.
Starting point is 01:13:10 James McPatterson. I'm going to look up president James. I'm not going to. There's a president called James, I'm sure. Okay, so it's a very serious movie about a president. But it's bad? Yeah, but it's bad. It's one of those ones where it's like it's so earnest and like Oscar-baited,
Starting point is 01:13:22 but it's terrible. Yeah, it's one of those ones where the, the previous year, somebody made a similar movie and it got some Oscar bait. So some, so a bunch of idiots with too much money, more money than sense. We're like,
Starting point is 01:13:33 let's make it. It's like, remember when, like that Nixon movie. Yeah. It's like, you know, when walk hard skewered all the music biopics and now you watch one of those
Starting point is 01:13:41 and you're like, Oh, this is terrible. This is walk hard. It's a, it's, it's, it's somebody,
Starting point is 01:13:44 somebody made a parody of like a president biopic. And this is the movie that came after it. So it's really earnest and it's terrible. Yeah, 100%. Mason though. Would you go Mason or would you go full name? I'll go Nicholas Mason. Because I think Nick Mason is like an action hero name.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Yeah. You know, kind of like whatever the guy's name in Equalizer is. But I mean, there's the secret life of Nick Mason, or the second life of Nick Mason. How often do you get tweeted that? Every day, but I haven't read it, and I shan't read it. They're going to turn it into a movie as well. Are they really?
Starting point is 01:14:14 I don't know, probably. And then I'm going to get it forever. What is that, like a spy novel? Like an espionage thing? No, it's about a guy, and he had a deep, dark past, and I think he's like a criminal and he gets released from prison early and then like under mysterious circumstances by some crime guy.
Starting point is 01:14:30 And he's like, I've released you early so you can do crimes. And he's like, but I don't want to do crimes. I want a second life for me, Nick Mason. That's right. Yeah. Cool. Podcaster. It is you.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Yeah. So, but it was, I don't know. I feel like it had like, well, walk hard, like in an equalizer, like a John Wick. I feel like it's that kind of name. Oh, okay. I feel like that's the kind of thing it would be. If it were just Mason. Like a revenge thing.
Starting point is 01:14:52 But also you've got a heart of gold. So like you think you're a little bit past your prime. You're in it. Oh, good. You've got a deep, dark past. Yep. And you've had some tragedy. I'm wearing the stilt shoes.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Yeah, you're wearing the stilt shoes. I'm staggering around the neighborhood, just shuffling. But something happens. Like somebody, like a local kid gets kidnapped and you have to. Okay. Hush it up. No, you have to. But I'm conflicted about it.
Starting point is 01:15:20 I'm conflicted about it the whole time. Let's say you hide for like private security for like there's you know someone who owns a shop in the street their kid gets kidnapped and they have to go after
Starting point is 01:15:30 I was just thinking it'd be about a guy who like makes a thing out of stone that's not true makes like paves a driveway or something
Starting point is 01:15:36 paves a driveway Larry Bird did that he wrecked his back doing it did he really yeah he did he like concreted his dad's driveway
Starting point is 01:15:43 and ruined his back Larry Bird Larry Bird the basketball player yes like concreted his dad's driveway and ruined his back. Larry Bird. Larry Bird, basketball player. Yes. He paved his own dad's driveway. Yes. Free basketball or after basketball? When he was playing, it was one of those hardworking kind of like southern kind of dudes.
Starting point is 01:15:59 He still is. Do you think that's a mini game in like the Jordan versus Bird video game? Do you think that's a mini game in like the Jordan versus Bird video game? Depending on which character you pick, like halfway through, Michael Jordan plays golf badly. No, baseball. Baseball, whatever. And Larry Bird paves his dad's driveway.
Starting point is 01:16:18 And it's a Tetris-style game. Oh, terrific. Imagine Tetris. It's like a wavy driveway and tiles come down and you've got to and you've got to crook back you've got to crook back yeah exactly and then when you play the second half of the game
Starting point is 01:16:29 you're injured you've got like your heart you're bent over and like if you move too fast like lightning bolts come out of your back that's right
Starting point is 01:16:37 I would like to see an NBA Jam style game where Larry Bird paves the driveway you know it's just ridiculous over the top and yeah sometimes it's like ridiculous over the top. Yeah. Sometimes it's like, he's on fire, and you just like pave.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Concrete mix. Yeah, nice. Anyway, the Larry Bird video game, and answer to whatever this question was. Yep, I paved my dad's driveway. Yeah, look, I like your one also. Thanks. This is from AJ Valente.
Starting point is 01:17:01 He says, hashtag weekly planner pod. I'd like to hear what your favorite mockumentaries are. Mine currently is Wellington Paranormal, which I've never seen. That's a good show. I gotta watch it. Is it linked to the other Wellington supernatural Taika Waititi movie? What we do in the shadows.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Yeah, it is. It is linked. So it's a spinoff of that. It's the same universe. Yeah. Cause I've seen the pilot of that show as well, which I quite like. Oh, I don't know if it's a pilot.
Starting point is 01:17:23 I don't know if it's been off of the TV series, but they're all sort of linked. Yeah, but it's a spin-off of the movie okay okay i assume they're linked if unless what we do in the shadows the tv series is a weird remake or something uh a movie that nobody really watched but i think it's really funny and it's recent is pop star never stop never stopping that's great andy sandberg he's kind of like a justin bieber also and what's his name the other justin justin timberlake yeah he's kind of like a Justin Bieber. What's his name? The other Justin. Justin Timberlake? Yeah. He's kind of like that-esque kind of a Macklemore kind of character.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Yeah, right. And it's just lunacy. And it's a good one. And it's very funny. And it's got a great cast. Yep. And it made no money. Like nobody saw it.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Yeah, right. It's terrific. And it's got great music. It's streaming out there. That's where I saw it, I think. Yeah. Have you got one? Spinal Tap, this is.
Starting point is 01:18:05 This is Spinal Tap. I don't really, I'd have to watch that again. I mean, speaking of War Card, that's the one. Oh, yeah. That's not a mockumentary. It's a biopic, really. Have you ever seen Look Around You? That's a TV series.
Starting point is 01:18:15 Is that? No. It's like a parody of all those, Australia especially, if you'd watch the ABC in like an afternoon, it'd be like, here's nature. Look at nature. Right, okay. It's kind of like a spoof science show. Okay, right.
Starting point is 01:18:30 When is this from? Early 2000s maybe? Okay, fair enough. All right, cool. Borat comes up when you Google this. Oh, yeah, okay. I mean, yeah. I feel like Borat's been ruined just by people.
Starting point is 01:18:41 By people doing Borat impressions? Surf's Up. I'm looking at Surf's Up as in, yeah. What's Surf's Up? It's a movie where Shia LaBeouf voices a surfing CGI penguin. That's a great mockumentary. I'm pretty confident. Kenny, which is an Australian mockumentary about-
Starting point is 01:18:55 Beef and Dairy Network, the podcast, is a great mockumentary, I guess, of sorts. Did you see Bruno? No, I've never seen Bruno. I think I did. I don't remember liking it very much. Anyway, yeah, there's some mockumentaries for you. But the number one for me, if you haven't seen it, would be Pops.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Might not be the best, but Pops, I'll never stop, never stop. That's a good one, yeah. Very good. Anyway, Look Around You, I think it's probably on YouTube. Not a mockumentary, but something, they just released it and I have to get it. Are you aware of Scarfolk? No. It's a blog
Starting point is 01:19:25 it's a blog set in a weird town in england where the 70s keeps like looping okay and it's like this kind of surreal i don't know it's hard it's hard to describe yeah but they've released recently uh the scarfolk annual okay just like you know you know um again when we were kids the the this thing was like an annual. It would be like the Knight Rider annual. And it was just like a hardback kind of book. And it had like comics and cartoons and like prose stuff and puzzles and mazes and whatever.
Starting point is 01:19:56 And it's like a parody of that. I have to get it because it looks. Like a physical copy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, right. Okay, cool. Scarfolk. Scarfolk.
Starting point is 01:20:04 Scarface, the movie. Got it. Hang on, I'm going to get one up here. Scarfolk, a fictional northern English town created by writer and designer Richard Littler, a blog of fake historical documents, parodying British public information posters of the 70s. I know that doesn't sound exciting at all, but it's super weird and kind of- Good?
Starting point is 01:20:23 Yeah, it's like a satire of that decade, and it's also like a satire of now, like through the lens of the 70s. Cool. Yeah, I wonder if you can check it out. If you go to scarfolk.blogspot.com, this month they've released the Little Lady Breath Mirror Corpse Detection Set. So it's like a fake, you know, like a plastic action figure set, and you pop it out, and they're like,
Starting point is 01:20:44 there's a pink one for girls and a blue one for boys love it and you check if somebody's alive with it anyway that's an example yeah okay cool I'll check that out
Starting point is 01:20:50 have you got another letter or is that I've got some more letters don't even worry about it mate don't even worry about it I wasn't that worried to be honest either way
Starting point is 01:20:56 oh this this is from Conla Quinn you might know from photoshopping and his first name her name being spelt C-O-N-L-A-O-D-H oh very good.
Starting point is 01:21:06 Hey, Jimmy and Nicky, with the imminent release of James' magnum opus. Hello. It's not a magnum opus. Or there is something I need to know. What was the glaringly strange thing that James noticed about Han Solo during The Force Awakens? Oh, okay, yeah, I can know this.
Starting point is 01:21:18 He mentioned it months and months ago, and I thought like a fool that he would reveal this in Revelation, an upcoming video, but alas, no dice. I never did it. But there is a moment in The Force Awakens where ray is talking to han solo after they land on maz kanata's planet and they're talking to each other and what they've done they've either reshot it or taken the same footage from the thing and kind of mixed it together but han solo's face is not attached properly to his forehead and it shifts yes like his face his forehead moves and
Starting point is 01:21:44 his head doesn't. So they've clearly just pasted his head on. And like colour-wise it matches perfectly. Yes. But I don't know whether they did it in a pick-up or whatever, but they've put his face on himself. Oh, not a double or anything? No.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Okay. And it shifts. There's like a second where it like shifts sideways. I just, yeah, it's baffling to me what happened there. And nobody else is like. No, not to my knowledge. You're the only one who's picked up on it. It seems to be.
Starting point is 01:22:09 I mean, also nobody else is talking about this. Well. Obviously. Of course. You know, so anyway, that's the thing. Yeah. Yeah, I got one last email. This is from Dave Murray.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Hello, Dave. This is Wandering Movie Men. Hi, James and May. So my 14-year-old son Baxter and I are currently walking the Te Araroa Trail, which is the length of New Zealand. And I was hoping you'd give Baxter a shout-out on your show. He's currently walked over 750 kilometres and he's still going strong.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Hello, Baxter. Congratulations. Stop doing it, Baxter. You've gone too far. We're listening to your show in the evenings as we rest and get ready for the next day. Thanks for the great show. It really picks us up after a long day.
Starting point is 01:22:44 That's amazing. 750 kilometres. My goodness. It really picks us up after a long day. That's amazing. 750 kilometres. My goodness. It's a beautiful country, though. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. It's not all the sheep stuff, but let's not get into it. That's incredible.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Shout out and well done. Well done, Baxter. And Dave, I guess. But you're a grown man. You're a grown man. As far as we know. It doesn't count. Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:25:52 Next week, depending on what happens, but I think it's probably going to be a trailer-heavy one. Oh, yes. We've got some big trailers this week. Okay, big trailers. Otherwise, we'll be doing a different topic. Big boys, big trailers. That's what I say.
Starting point is 01:26:02 And then after that, it's probably just all Star Wars. Until the end of the year, the end of our lives. That's right. Jumanji's in there somewhere. Jumanji! Should we do a Jumanji one? Maybe. Do people want to hear a Jumanji one?
Starting point is 01:26:11 Jumanji 3? It is. 3-manji? Twa-manji. Twa-manji, yeah. All right. Oh, Jumanji-twa. That's what we settled on last time.
Starting point is 01:26:20 That's right. Great. All right, guys. Thanks for listening. Grab that gem, you guys. We'll see you next week. Goodbye. Jumanji-twa. That's a good one. That's good. That's great. That's going to live on. Thanks for listening. Grab that gem, you guys. We'll see you next week. Goodbye. Jumanji 2.
Starting point is 01:26:26 That's a good one. That's great. That's going to live on in infamy. Yeah, I think so. I'm going to tweet it to all the celebrities involved, and they're all going to block me. Definitely. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:34 Because Sathura, I was going to say, that's technically a Jumanji movie. No, it isn't. It is. It counts. It's not. It counts, Mason. It's not even a spiritual successor.
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