The Weekly Planet - 313 The Irishman & A New Superman?
Episode Date: December 2, 2019Listeners of my show can get $5 off any Harry’s shave set at http://www.Harrys.com/WEEKLYPLANET. Free shipping ends on December 16th, so ACT NOW!Welcome to The Weekly Planet Dot Com! This week, The ...Irishman in addition to Michael B Jordan as Superman, low tracking for Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker, Kong VS Godzilla delayed, Hulk VS Wolverine, Doctor Doom in Black Panther 2 and the weirdest Michael Jackson revelation. This week. Plus recaps of both The Watchmen & The Mandalorian. Thanks for listening.Magnum Opus: https://bit.ly/37TDMrJUSB Tape: https://bit.ly/33ByrllSuggestible Podcast: https://aca.st/cf053a0:00 The Start3:50 Michael Jackson Glove Musical7:16 Star Wars TROS tracking low9:24 Missing TROS script15:21 Hulk VS Wolverine movie18:41 Kong VS Godzilla delayed20:19 Doctor Doom in Black Panther 223:38 Superman update26:27 Bond, Black Widow and Wonder Woman 84 trailers29:54 The Irishman (spoilers 53:16)55:12 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read55:52 Watchmen Spoilers58: 25 The Mandalorian1:07:05 Letters It’s Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP Itunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanet TWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGH Buy The Terminator Collection Amazon ► https://amzn.to/2ocHVoD T-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows.
My name is James Olsen, known as Mr. Sunday.
With me is always my co-host Nick Mason.
Sorry I'm late.
I was watching The Irishman.
Oh, mate.
I think maybe I'm still watching The Irishman.
How many bloody weeks did it bloody take you to bloody...
Did you start it before it went on bloody Netflix
and you still bloody get it done on time?
Oh, we'll talk about it.
We'll talk about it.
Pretty long for a movie, isn't it?
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
But it's not long for like a...
It's not long for a miniseries.
No, it's not.
Exactly.
And it's not long for like a season of things that you'll put on that'll appear on Netflix all of a sudden. Yeah, do you think it's not like for a mini series no it's not exactly it's not long for like a a season of things that you'll put on that'll appear on netflix yeah do you think it's more like the
psychological aspect of it being three and a half hours that makes it be like this is long but if it
was like six to seven episodes you'd be like this is this is maybe i'm not sure i don't know yeah i
don't know anything at this point uh i'll take to uh for sale aren't they, Mason? They sure are. Explain that for me.
Last year, we partnered with our friends over at Audiobooksontape.com.
It was a hot time.
And we put some best of The Weekly Planet on a little USB cassette tape.
It's not a real cassette, or it looks like a cassette.
It's a little USB flicky thingy out.
And you can put it in your computer or your phone or what have you,
and you can get all the best steps uh best stuff from last year's episodes but this year yes we've put all 30 of
our movie commentaries on another tape i didn't know we'd done 30 commentaries isn't that wild
doesn't even seem right right it's a mountain yeah anyway but it is and how many hours is it
there is a bonus one that's oh on there, that being Avengers Endgame.
We're not releasing that online anytime soon.
So if you want to get that, it'll be on there.
Yeah, now, right now, so I think there were 250 tapes on the website.
They've all sold out, but you can click back order,
and the guy over there, he knocks them out real quick.
So people have already got them.
Oh, really?
They went on sale, I don't know, like a couple of days ago.
Yeah.
And people already have them.
So people already posted them.
And they're in space age white this time.
They look great.
Also, you can choose your currency.
So you don't need to worry about particular conversion
or what does it actually cost or whatever.
Also, you can delete what's on there and replace it with anything you want.
Oh, my goodness.
And that's the dream.
That's worth its weight in gold, I think.
That's what I did with mine.
Yeah.
I replaced it with 30 additional commentaries I'd done just with me.
Wow.
That's right.
Is it just commentaries on your life?
It's just you muttering under your breath.
You're like at a cafe and it's like,
this is taking a bit longer in my coffee, isn't it?
I'm not like this.
Service anomaly, isn't it?
I've discovered my new favourite thing this week.
Speaking of cafes, I just remembered earlier this week speaking of cafes I just remembered
earlier this week
you and I went out to lunch at a cafe
we brought your son along
and I've discovered my new favourite thing
is attempting to convince your son
that all his Transformers are named Reg
he does not care for it
because one of them was called Wedge
and I'm like oh Reg
and he's like no
and I'm like oh that's Red Alert no that's Reginald Alert your friend Reg oh reg and he's like no and i'm like oh that's that red alert no that's
reginald alert your friend reginald alert he's like no you i think you did convince him that
megatron's father's name is regitron yes at some point reg megatron
anyway he doesn't like it at all he doesn't like it so it's fun though it's so much fun
yeah it's hard not to do Yeah Well that's
I mean you know
I want
I you know
He likes you
For now
I think
I think he's turning around
As he gets to know me
He's liking me less
Yeah
That's probably true
Anyways
First bit of news
It's an odd bit of news
But I thought
I guess this is worth talking about
Because Johnny Depp is producing
A musical about the life
Of Michael Jackson
That will be told
From the perspective
That will be told From the perspective Of the late singer's famous sequined glove.
Do you want more information?
No, that'll do.
No, please, actually.
Playwright Julian Nitzberg wrote For the Love of a Glove.
I'm sorry, what?
This keeps getting better and better.
An unauthorized musical fable about the life of Michael Jackson I'm sorry, what? This keeps getting better and better.
An unauthorised musical fable about the life of Michael Jackson as told by his glove, which is described as
a fresh revisionist look at the strange forces that shaped Michael Jackson
and the scandals that bedevilled him.
Do you think in this unauthorised revisionist thing,
do you think he's called Michael Jackson
or do you think it's like a Jackie Jomp Jomp situation
where he's like...
Oh, right.
Well, could it be like...
Mitchell Johnson.
The king of pop.
Because you can write unauthorised biographies of people,
can't you?
Or you could say it's a parody of...
I guess so.
You also can't defame the dead.
Oh, really?
You can say whatever you want, really.
That's very interesting.
Like, legally, you can't get sued for that.
I didn't know that.
He told Page Six that a major TV network had asked him to write a film about Jackson,
but pulled out after him and the network couldn't agree over how to cover the allegations of child abuse.
So he proposed a solution.
I said, how's this?
Everything MJ has been accused of has actually been caused by his glove,
which is actually an alien from outer space and feeds on virgin boy blood.
They laughed and said, can you do the normal version?
And he turned down the TV offer and decided to write this idea for the stage.
Now you've made that up.
None of that.
You've made up a funny joke.
I mean, it's.
It's one of the weirdest things we've ever said on this podcast.
You've made it up.
And kudos to you for making up such a weird thing to blame pedophilia alleged pedophilia
uh on a magic space but i mean he's dead so i can't defame him so that's yeah uh on a magic
space glove where did he acquire the space glove who's also is this in or out now i think it's like
venom 3 like it lands next to him and then grabs the first thing it sees michael jackson jackson
i don't what who wants
this like surely though if you're a massive fan and you're with him 100 you don't want to see a
movie or sorry a play where a space alien glove makes him commit pedophilic acts yeah right you
see what i'm saying i do say yes but maybe you do maybe like i told you it was the glove all along
why are we talking about this?
I don't know.
But hang on, isn't that, that's the joke thing he said.
So did he really propose?
Yeah, he proposed that and that's the one that they're making into a play.
With the space glove.
Yes.
I still don't think this is real.
I think you've seen the headline and you've riffed a bit.
I went into the-
And the riff's gone too far, but you've committed.
I have copied exactly what was in the article.
I'm not saying the article is accurate.
I'm just saying this is what was written from the source article.
That's insane.
Yeah.
Wow.
Anyway, Johnny Depp's involved for some reason.
And it's called For the Love of the Glove.
It's called For the Love of a Glove, colon, an unauthorized musical fable about the life of Michael Jackson as told by his glove.
In parentheses, not a pedophile.
But the glove is?
Asterisk.
But the glove is a pedophile.
So here we go.
That's happening.
In less controversial news, Star Wars.
All right.
Yep.
Less? happening um in less controversial news uh star wars all right yep less oh maybe we should maybe
we should open like whenever we have an opinion about like the last jedi or something like that
we could be like somebody's making a pedophile musical about michael jackson where he's not a
pedophile anyway star wars news people be like thank god yeah they go out of that out of the
weeds uh deadline have reported that uh the rise of sky Skywalker is looking to hit about $175 to $200 million
in its opening US weekend.
Good or bad?
Can't remember anymore.
It's good, but also tracking means nothing.
They don't know.
And whenever they're like, well, it's below, it's because the estimate wasn't right.
If it's below or above, it's because they guessed wrong.
And they don't really, like the way that they figure that out, it's...
It's almost entirely arbitrary. It's almost entirely arbitrary. It's sketchy. They don't really like the way that they figure that out. It's almost entirely arbitrary.
It's almost entirely arbitrary.
It's sketchy.
They don't really know.
You know, sometimes it's accurate, but you know, it's like the weather.
I mean, it's not like the weather because the weather is often accurate.
Yeah.
The weather is more, a weather report is more accurate these days than it's ever been.
Yeah.
Bad.
Yes.
And, but, but yeah, the tracking seems to be it's wizardry
at this point. It's just like
pulling rocks out of a bag
or whatever. I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if it's
less though. It's going to because the last Jedi
was 200. Because get woke broke, go broke, bro.
Get woke broke, get broke broke, get broke
go broke. That's what I say.
Get broke, stay broke
bro.
I was going to say bloke.
Yeah, also works.
That's less than The Last Jedi is 220 and The Force Awakens 247.
So, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if it was diminishing returns.
Because of Get Woke, Go Broke?
Well, no, because I think...
Yeah, no, of course not.
I just, I mean, I'm sure that, again, that's probably an element of it,
but I think everybody who screams Get Woke, Go Broke sees it anyway. Oh, yeah, sure that, again, that's probably an element of it, but I think everybody who screams get woke, go broke sees it anyway.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
I think they don't boycott it,
and I think they go to see it so they can scream about it regardless.
Yeah, because they're cowards.
Yes, because that's what we're saying.
No, so anyway, well, I hope it's good.
I think the slogan should be get woke, be a good bloke.
Bro.
Bro.
Thank you. Hashtag get woke, be a good bloke. Bro. Bro. Thank you.
Hashtag get woke.
Be a good bloke.
Bro.
Also, I'll get all the bloody Star Wars stuff out of the way.
Okay, thank you.
I appreciate it.
Then we'll get back to the glove thing, all right?
Okay, good.
John Boyega also, it was reported this week that-
What do you think that-
What do you think Mark Hamill-
What do you think Luke Skywalker's seven hands up to these days?
I think good stuff.
Probably doing charity.
Probably doing charity work.
Thank God.
I know, right?
Thank God there's some good ones out there.
Do you think Michael Jackson cuts his own arm off Evil Dead style?
Like at the end of it?
No, I think he just has a pill overdose.
Yeah, that did happen to me, yeah.
Yeah, and the glove runs away.
Skitters under like a table or something?
Yeah.
And waits for its next.
And then it takes over. Then during like and waits for its next and then it takes
so then it during like his his auction of all this stuff it takes over that statue of the
michael keaton batman that's got his face on it like it jumps on that and it becomes like a
a monster anyways i don't know if you remember but a script for the last jedi not the last jedi
the rise of skywalker turned up on ebay i always heard about that yeah it turned out that it
belonged to john Boyega.
He left it in a hotel room, like, under the bed.
Somebody got it, put it online.
Okay, right.
It all got recovered, but that was,
they didn't want to reveal who it was,
but this week he was like,
it was me, I did it.
This is my last one, who cares?
Do you think there's, like, a budget at Lucasfilm
or, like, any of these places that's, like...
Lockdown budget.
Lockdown budget to, like,
bid on stuff on eBay or whatever.
It's like, all right, it's $50,000.
All right, I guess we're buying it.
I think they send lawyers and cease and desist.
Yeah, right, right.
I'm assuming that's how they got it back.
They wouldn't buy it back, but they would spend more money
than it would be to buy it back to crush the person who got that.
Yeah.
But do you think also you'd have to do something about,
presumably the person who found it read it. Yeah. But do you think also you'd have to do something about,
presumably the person who found it read it.
Yeah.
So they know the plot of Rise of Skywalker.
Yeah, I guess they would, yeah.
So you've got to silence them, right?
Yes, with a gun.
With a gun, exactly, yeah.
So I'm just taking my jumper off.
I misread the temperature in this room,
which is always the same temperature. James, what's happened here is you're recording
one of your commentaries, your real-life commentaries.
I just took my jumper off.
It's too hot in here.
I don't like this.
I'm complaining, but there's a cafe.
It's too hot in this cafe.
It's too broke.
Broke.
Yeah.
So what happens to the person who knows the plot details?
Did they even read it?
Probably, I assume.
If you found the Rise of Skywalker script, would you read it?
No.
But I also wouldn't put it on eBay.
Well, that's true, yeah.
Because I'm not a moron.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what?
I'd put it in an envelope, mail it to yourself.
Yeah.
I don't know what that means.
Do what he did in The Predator.
Swallow it, get on a plane.
That's exactly right.
Is that what happened in The Predator?
That's what happened, yeah.
The newest Predator movie?
Uh-huh, yeah.
Yeah.
Anyways, there's still spoilers out there about it.
The bloody magic glove in the bloody Predator.
Yeah.
Tell you what.
It's a good movie.
It's not.
It wasn't a good movie, was it? It was a bad movie. We have. Yeah. Tell you what. It's a good movie. It's not. It wasn't a good movie
was it?
It was a bad movie.
We have got the run time
though.
It's 141 minutes
which is more than
The Force Awakens
which is 138
but less than
The Last Jedi
which is the longest
with 152.
Oh my goodness.
So the run time is
what's that?
About the same.
Two hours and 11
whatever that
two hours and 21?
I don't know.
Whatever it is.
The other thing is
You wouldn't read it?
No I really wouldn't. Would you flick to a random wouldn't read it? No, I really wouldn't.
Would you flick to a random page and read a word?
No, I probably wouldn't.
I'd probably read Solo.
Like if Solo fell in my lap.
Now?
Oh, yeah.
In the year 2019?
Definitely.
If I found a copy of Solo-
Oh my God, this movie I've seen.
No, I wouldn't read it.
Would you read it?
Oh, I reckon maybe I'd read the opening page.
Okay.
Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I remember when I saw Revenge of read the opening page. Okay. Yeah, maybe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I remember when I saw Revenge of the Sith.
Right.
Yes.
I got the video game the day before because it came out the day before for some reason.
And I played the first level of that and then I turned it off because I didn't want to know.
So as soon as you get to Grievous' ship or get through the first bit, I turn it off.
So that's whatever the equivalent of that is.
I'd do that.
The other thing is my, I don't know, I think you I turn it off. Okay. So that's whatever the equivalent of that is. I do that. Okay.
The other thing is my, I don't know,
I think you started calling it my magnum opus because it's certainly not.
I've really bigged it up.
Why have I been calling it that?
It's a 34-minute kind of midi documentary about Shadows of the Empire,
which is a Star Wars multimedia project,
which is basically, I was going to say it's a movie. It's not a movie. It's never been a movie. It was a comic series. It was a multimedia project, which is basically, it was a, I was going to say it's a movie.
It's not a movie.
It's never been a movie.
It was a comic series.
It was a video game.
It was a toy line.
It had a soundtrack.
I was going to say it was a toilet.
It was a toilet.
Yeah.
It had micro machines and weird latex masks,
which you've seen sitting around in my house.
Did it have ring raiders?
I don't know. Do you remember the ring raiders?
Which were ring raiders?
They were like little planes.
Yeah. On little rings, like little plastic rings. Oh, and you ring raiders? Which were ring raiders? They were like little planes on little rings,
like little plastic rings.
Oh, and you launched them off?
No, they didn't do anything.
Then crap.
They didn't do anything.
They were like a little plane on a ring on a little stalk,
like a plastic stalk.
And you were just like, whew.
Ring raiders.
Bad name too.
Yeah, not good.
Ring raiders.
Yeah.
No, I don't think they had any ring raiders couldn't call them that these days
no
but I haven't actually
PC got mad
absolutely
when recording this
I haven't put it out
but it will be out
by now
so if you want to
check it out
I really appreciate it
it's got some really
cool animations in it
which is
you know I mean
so if the video is bad
at least you've got
the animations
I cannot tell
and I'm also
I can't wait
until I've made
like one critical error
in it
that I've missed I'm just going to get that comment for the rest of my life i can't wait till you it's
pointed out you made a critical error at like minute two yeah and then you've inside your mind
you can see it all branching off all the errors that are being compounded you you said to me
should i take any of out any of it out and i'm like no because you were like is this interesting
but i feel you've watched it probably so many times
you can't tell if anything's interesting.
I did end up chipping
probably a minute out of it
at the end.
Just like stuff that I feel like
I repeat myself.
But anyway,
if you're very interested
in that very specific era
of Star Wars,
you might be keen.
I think people are.
Yeah, we'll see.
I'm going to watch it.
Opening day.
I don't believe,
today?
I guess.
I love your enthusiasm.
You didn't want to watch the opening day, but now you're like,
God damn it.
It's 34 minutes, you know?
I mean, you shaved that minute out, but you have time.
Maybe I'll put it on in the car, look at my phone and just leave it.
You'll miss the animation.
So I make sure that I know that you've watched it.
In relation to the Hulk news, this is what Mark Ruffalo told The Con,
which is apparently some kind of source for media that I've never heard of.
Maybe it's a big one.
Kevin Feige asked me last week if I had any more ideas or stories for the Hulk.
And I said, yeah, I still think there's some stories.
Yeah, how about you give me a script for a Hulk movie and I act in the Hulk movie because that's what I get paid for.
Not to come up with your ideas, Feige, you son of a bitch.
And then I got fired.
I don't understand.
They got Edward Norton back.
Yeah.
Did you see any of the interviews where he talks about the Hulk
and why he wanted to make it good and whatever?
No.
No, I saw some of his, like, Edward Norton's, like, iconic role.
Yeah, I watched that.
Video. They're good, those, aren't they? They are good. I like them a lot, yeah. And they're good because they just let them talk. No, I saw some of his like Edward Norton's like iconic role video. Yeah, I watched that.
They're good those, aren't they? They are good.
I like them a lot, yeah.
And they're good because they just let them talk.
It's not like, what's your craziest day on set?
Tell me about your process.
Yeah, so I feel like if they have a lot to say and they're not,
what I like about them is they're not to a particular time frame.
It's not like we've got 10 minutes.
Like some of them go 40 minutes.
Some go 15 minutes. It's just however that. We've got 10 minutes. Like some of them go 40 minutes. Some go 15 minutes.
It's just however much they want to talk.
Yeah, exactly.
And then often,
and then they get to their latest movie.
I'm like,
yeah,
tell me about the latest movie.
Although Jamie Lee Curtis did one recently for knives out.
And she's like,
I am knives that inspired me to start.
Like she's going to direct a movie.
Oh really?
It's coming up soon.
Cause she's like,
just the idea of like making a new thing
and just the creative process on set and blah, blah, blah.
It's called Spoons In.
Thank you.
And I said, yeah, there's still some-
You know what, like an ice cream sundae or something?
Yeah, that's it.
Wow, what a nice time for everyone.
And I said, yeah, there's still some stories to tell.
And he said, well, why don't you come in and tell me them
and we'll see if we can find a place for you in the Marvel universe.
And apparently what he spoke to them about is Hulk versus Wolverine,
which I think could be pretty great.
That could be great.
I mean,
that's the,
it's a good team up.
Well,
it's the team up and that's kind of the,
the iconic first appearance of Wolverine was Hulk versus Wolverine.
He was just like a sort of an,
just an antagonist in Canada.
That would make sense.
A cantagonist.
A cantagonist.
Which is what you call any enemies you make in Canada. That would make sense. A cantagonist. A cantagonist.
Which is what you call any enemies you make in Canada.
True.
Yeah.
That would make sense, though,
because they often go back to the source for a lot of this stuff.
Yeah.
So I didn't even think of that, but yeah, that would be a good introduction.
Because there's that iconic one,
and then in the ultimate Marvel universe, there was a... Yes.
I'm not sure if it was ever finished.
It might have been finished months or even years later.
I think every time.
But there was an ultimate Wolverine versus Hulk.
Can someone definitively tell us if this is finished?
Tell us yes or no.
Yeah.
Was the series completed?
Because the art was great.
We don't want a I don't know.
Yes, we want a yes or no.
Only if you know.
Only if you know.
But it's the one where people...
There's an iconic panel where the Hulk tears Wolverine literally in half, like at the waist.
And he has to drag himself to find his legs and put himself back together.
Classic.
So, you know.
Also, of course, the old man Logan Hulk showdown as well.
Well, that's true, yeah.
So there's been quite a few.
People are constantly wondering how they're going to introduce mutants to the MCU.
And maybe it's Wolverine dragging half of himself to his legs.
To find his legs.
That could work.
How did I get here?
He says to himself.
That's right.
Hulk did it.
Record scratch.
Yep, that's me.
No, that's just my legs.
I could just start with his legs.
Just standing there, just wobbling and then they fall over.
In other news, I was wondering
what was going on with this movie because we hadn't seen
a trailer. Kong vs. Godzilla
was pushed from March to November.
I don't know what this
necessarily means. Being pushed back is
often not a good sign. But it's often
not the worst sign.
It's a spectrum.
On one side you have new mutants and on the other side you Yeah, but because the last... It's a spectrum. Yes. On one side you have new mutants
and on the other side you have a movie
that was improved by this.
Sonic?
Yeah, Sonic.
Is the release date of Sonic being pushed back?
Yeah, because remember they had to redo all of it.
Yeah, I remember.
Yeah.
So, I don't know,
maybe this is something to do
with the last Godzilla movie underperforming.
Maybe they're not happy with it.
Maybe it's a special effects thing. Maybe
it's all of the above. Maybe they're just targeting
a different November release date to kind
of get a clearer shot
at the box office. Maybe Kong suffered
a knee injury. He might have.
So
don't expect to see a trailer for that anytime soon
I'm assuming off the back of
I remain hopeful and I'm going to expect a
trailer sometime very soon. Well that's not what I said. I said the opposite. I said wait a this news. I remain hopeful and I'm going to expect a trailer sometime very soon.
Well, that's not what I said.
I said the opposite.
I said wait a little bit.
I think now is way too early.
I've waited a little bit from when you said that moments ago
and I'm fully expecting a trailer.
It's literally a year from now.
Sometimes they do it.
Justice League was like a year and a half.
I can see them dropping a teaser that's just like pan pan across Skull Island, dark, lightning bolts, and then like-
Set of legs.
Godzilla.
Yeah, set of legs tumbling over.
What did they get here?
Yeah, it's just Kong's legs, smoke coming off the top of them,
like atomic breath, like a little blue glow,
and then his legs tumble over.
Terrific.
And then it's like, yeah, that's how it's going to end.
Yeah.
So back to Marvel News.
This is by Charles Murphy.
Victor Von Doom will begin expanding.
Is that Charlie Murphy?
Eddie Murphy's brother.
He died.
Oh.
You can't defame the dead.
That's true.
You can say whatever you want.
Is that what you said?
I don't have anything bad to say about Charlie Murphy.
I don't either.
No, I don't know enough about him, to be honest.
I very much enjoy his Dave Chappelle skits where he talks about the 80s or whatever.
Victor Von Doom will be expanding his empire, apparently.
Listen to this, Mason.
Oh, yes.
Conquering parts of Africa and ultimately come into conflict
with the nation of Wakanda and the Black Panther,
hence the introduction of Victor Von Doom into the universe.
So Charles Murphy said this.
Yes.
Who's that?
I can't remember.
One of those Scoops dudes.
Oh.
Yeah.
From Spoons Inn. From the movie Spoons
Inn.
Do you think that's what they'll be doing
instead of launching straight into Fantastic Four,
straight into an X-Men, introduce some characters in
other things and then...
Maybe. We need to introduce a new big bad villain.
We don't have to, but it'd be nice.
They've definitely tangled before. Has he invaded
Wakanda before? Almost certainly.
Because he's got his own nation.
And again, yeah, I mean, you know, again,
the original origin of Black Panther was a Fantastic Four crossover,
so going back to the well.
Going back to the well.
Also, I meant to mention this earlier,
but by putting Wolverine in a Hulk movie,
it means you, again, don't have to pay Universal,
who still own the rights to solo Hulk movies.
I see, right.
So the next time we see Hulk, if at all, which we will almost certainly,
it'll be another crossover, I'd imagine.
Also, solo Hulk movies don't generally do well.
And also, can you imagine Comic-Con?
They're doing one of their bloody timelines again
and they just put up on the screen Hulk versus Wolverine.
Like that's the title.
Yeah.
Imagine the woos. Do you think they'd call it
Hulk versus Wolverine though?
Maybe. Are they averse
to V movies? Yeah, I think the V movie
has been, I don't know, they've sullied
it. Maybe. Because there's never
been a good one. Maybe that's correct.
Yeah. You're forgetting
we had Ford v Ferrari.
Dawn of Clutches. That's what that movie
is. That's apparently that movie is that's apparently
my brother
who's not a Cars guy
the one you don't like
he loved it
alright there you go
but it's not
it's called
I feel he also likes
bad movies your brother
sometimes he does
so do you
yeah but I feel
but here's the thing
I feel at least
I'm consistent
like my methodology
of what I like
but I feel your brother's
all over the place
yeah that's probably true
he just likes
or doesn't like things
entirely at random
you can't get a read on it.
I can't get a read on that guy.
That's why you don't like him.
One of the many races.
Yeah, but it's called Le Mans or whatever.
Oh, Le Mans 66.
Yeah, right.
Which would not sell here.
Nobody would see a movie here called,
except if you're a car nut.
Or you like French things.
Or you like French things,
which everybody in Australia does not.
Yes.
Other than the fries, obviously.
Are they even French?
I don't think so.
French get a bad rap, man.
I've been there.
I found them very nice.
I've also been to France, yeah.
We've both travelled.
We've both travelled.
I think in most countries.
On a bicycle built for two.
That's right.
Wearing stripy shirts and berets.
The problem is, though.
Baguettes in a bag.
Ding, ding, ding.
Yes.
We're facing different directions.
We're pedalling away from each other. We couldn't though baguettes in a bag. We're facing different directions. We're peddling away
from each other.
We couldn't get
anything done.
That's right.
But no I think
like in most places
if you make the effort
to like learn
like little phrases
and things.
Baguette.
Baguette.
And all the slurs.
And then all the slurs.
Yes exactly.
This report comes
via Variety.
There was a big
write up about
the future of the DC universe
and how they're looking to maybe fill that R-rated gap
in the superhero universe,
because Marvel obviously aren't going to do it,
in movies at least.
So it's just, you know, they're like,
more R-rated stuff and whatever, et cetera, and so forth.
But one of the things they mentioned is
they've yet to figure out what to do with
the iconic characters of Superman and Batman.
Batman is obviously further along, because that is they've cast it and it's all ready to go. But they've also been talking about
J.J. Abrams about Superman. Because remember he signed that deal with Warner Brothers to
produce and direct. And he's long been attached. Superman Flyby, was that him?
He wrote Flyby, but McG was going to direct it. And then Ratner. We've got a video on it.
Yeah, we should have. From like years back.
There was also a meeting with Michael B. Jordan
where he pitched to Warners on a version of the character.
However, he's not ready to commit because he's got a full slate.
So if that happens, or if a Superman movie happens at all,
it won't be before 2023.
Because they're literally at like day dot.
They've got nothing.
Yeah.
Even though they've got a Superman in the universe,
which people seem to like
I would say
would you replace
would you
if Michael B. Jordan
was in
and he was
going to be getting in
on what remains
of the DCEU
yeah
would you make him
Clark Kent Superman
or would you make him
a different Superman
I'd make him
what's the other version
of Superman
with the red
the gold
not the gold
like the silver suit
if you
put him in the universe from there then you do you do that version yeah right but i'm i'm not
adverse to him just being clark kent i don't think it's i don't think it matters that big a deal i
know that's get woke go broke or whatever you want to call it yeah and i know people say well what if
black panther was white or whatever it's not the same um but to cast him what is that other version
of superman called i can't
remember yeah but i think that would be interesting to bring in different versions google black so i'm
gonna yeah i know this isn't very pc but i'm gonna black superman what else i remember remember his
name yeah but i think there are if you're looking for a different take on superman yep then there
are other versions of superman you can do yes exactly just like also there's other versions
of like batman you could do dick gray. Yes, exactly. Just like also there's other versions of Batman.
You could do Dick Grayson, Nightwing, who then becomes Batman.
There's various versions of every character.
How many Green Lanterns are there?
There are other versions you could potentially touch upon.
I don't think you necessarily have to do,
Rocker comes to Earth, he grows up on a farm,
he discovers his powers, and et cetera and so forth.
I'm kind of sick of that more than anything.
Calvin Ellis is his name, I think.
Is it C-A-L?
It's not like Cal as in K-A-L.
C-A-L, yeah.
He is, oh, he's from the Multiversity, which was that parallel universe, the Grant Morrison one.
He's also the president of the United States.
Oh, he's that one.
I was going to say, he's the president.
Maybe I'm thinking, isn't there another one?
Yeah, I thought there was another one.
I think there's another one.
Yeah.
Anyway, just do any version of that or whatever.
Just do any version.
Yeah.
Anyway, maybe we'll do a video on it and I'll properly research it at some point.
Yes, please.
Now, apparently trailers for this week are going to be getting Bond,
maybe a Wonder Woman, maybe a Black Widow.
So I'll be busy, obviously, which is really exciting.
Trailer breakdowns, Easter eggs.
But, yeah, so I'm kind of really interested to see what this new Bond movie is going to look like.
I'm just hoping it's just not like Spectre 2.
That's what I'm like.
Just don't make that again.
Yeah, right.
But, yeah, it's going to be an interesting week.
And I want to see Taskmaster.
Some good stuff happening this week.
Oh, he's going to be in, or she is going to be in the Black Widow movie.
You want, so.
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To mark the release of Irishman,
we're going to do a three-and-a-half-hour review.
Oh, my God.
Minute by minute.
We're going to do an audio commentary.
Oh, my God.
Oh, you should have recorded that as you were watching it,
in snippets.
My favourite, there's been so many,
I'm really just enjoying just memes.
You know I love memes.
I know you love memes.
My favourite reference to the Irishman on Twitter was it was a guy,
I'll find it, but it was a guy saying,
I'm finally enjoying Martin Scorsese's The Irishman as it was intended,
and he's driving down a freeway on a motorbike,
and it's like mounted in one of those GPS mounts,
and he's watching it on Netflix.
It's so good.
That's terrific.
Yeah, because people are doing like Apple Watches and all sorts of things.
Yeah, right, right, right.
You watched it on your big TV, I assume?
I did watch it on my relatively big TV.
At some bad ideas, this guy.
That sounds like a great idea.
He says, shaking my head when you're trying to focus on a three-and-a-half-hour epic
about the moral decay of the men of the greatest generation
in the longest continuous underwater vehicular tunnel in North America
and others don't have respect
for strictly observing the speed limit.
It's a really good point.
But there are people in his mentions who are like,
I hope you know that's very dangerous.
He knows.
He's not really concentrating on the Irishman.
So anyway, after a limited theatre release,
I don't know if it came here.
If it did, it was...
No, I think maybe if it came anywhere,
it would have come to like Cinema Nova or the Anstor.
I'm not sure it made it to like...
I kind of wish I did see it at the cinema though.
I feel like it would have been like more immersive.
And it would have been more immersive.
And again, if you're paying 20 bucks for it or whatever,
or more, you are inclined to
focus.
And I don't know, like, you know, Scorsese going out of his way to saying, you know,
certain things are not cinema and blah, blah, blah.
I feel like, has this proven his point that we've, is that part of this, that we can all
watch it on our phones or in our homes or in snippets or leave and watch an hour and
then come back and watch an hour later.
But that's also how I watch most things.
Right.
Like if I'm at home.
Like, because, you know, people are busy.
Sure.
But maybe most people don't have three and a half hours to just sit down and, you know,
when they've got...
But should we have made the time?
Are we the fools?
Yeah, look, to be honest, like, also this cost $160 million.
Okay.
Okay, but first of all, what did you think...
Where did it go?
Where did the money go? De-aging and, like, it's a period piece $160 million. Okay. Okay, but first of all, what did you think? Where did it go? Where did the money go?
De-aging and like it's a period piece.
All right, yep.
I guess it's a period piece, yeah.
What do you think the story was?
Oh, okay.
De Niro's a guy, his name's Frank Sheeran.
He's Irish.
He's the Irishman.
He's an Irish guy and he was in World War II
and he liked killing people.
He didn't like killing people,
but he was like, he's okay with killing people.
He seemed to like killing people.
He seems to be okay with killing people, so they call him a house painter because he's like, he's okay with killing people. He seemed to like killing people. He seems to be okay with killing people,
so they call him a house painter
because he's like,
he paint houses,
which is painting houses with people's blood.
And then he gets up.
Imagine a big bucket of blood.
He's like, yep.
That's not what we meant, Frank.
No, I stored all this blood
from all the murders I did in World War II.
I loved it.
I put them in a pit and I shot them
and they took their blood.
And I'm like,
what do I do with all this blood?
I guess I'll paint some houses with it.
Frank, you're not going to get away with this.
I don't know about that.
What should we go?
We don't have DNA technology.
We can kind of get away with anything.
If you don't see me murdering somebody,
I kind of get away with it.
Anyway, he gets mixed up with some maid guys
because that's most Martin Scorsese movies.
Yes.
This is not Goodfellas or Casino to me.
No, but is it riffing on all of those things?
A little bit.
I think it was most interesting to me in its...
I thought it was fine.
I thought it got more interesting as it went.
I thought it was pretty standard mob stuff for the first two hours.
But the last hour in particular deals with what happens to a man who used to paint houses.
It's a metaphor.
He killed people.
with what happens to a man who used to paint houses.
Sure.
It's a metaphor.
He killed people. Right, right, right.
And when all of his friends are suddenly dying or dead.
Yes.
It's the modern day.
Nobody gives a shit.
It's done.
Well, there's a moment.
You're contemplating your life.
I'm like, maybe that should have been the majority of this movie.
I mean, some spoilers for, this isn't a spoiler, I guess, technically,
but the framing story of this, it opens on Frank Sheeran in a nursing home
relaying his story to some people.
To Ed Sheeran.
So you know he's alive now and at the end,
so there's no real tension as to whether this character lives or not.
But there's a scene towards the end, he's saying,
and we're talking about Jimmy Hoffa and somebody,
and I think it's a nurse, is like, who?
Yeah.
And there are people out there who are like,
you know, when Martin Scorsese started talking about, you know,
Marvel movies aren't cinema, people are like, well, who's Martin Scorsese?
You know what I mean?
It's kind of.
Which is a ridiculous thing to say.
It is, but it's true.
But I mean.
No, I mean just to be like, I discount all of his work.
No, I know.
But I mean, there are literally people who are like,
I don't know who Martin Scorsese is.
Yeah, okay, sure. Yeah. Yeah. Who are like, and is that but I mean, there are literally people who are like, I don't know who Mark Scorsese is. Yeah, okay, sure, yeah.
Yeah, who are like, and is this Scorsese being like,
well, we all lose relevance eventually kind of thing.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's just weird that it's come up at this point where he's said some.
Oh, right, yeah, that's entirely possible.
I thought the slow burn nature of it, I think, because his last movie,
which I cannot for the life of me remember, what the hell is it called?
Silence.
There we go.
Which is about bringing Christianity to the Japanese yeah it's incredible I really loved it
and I don't know there was an energy to that energy to that that this one really lacked and
I think a lot of it is you're painting these 17 70 year old guys houses houses as 30 to 50
it's mysterious it's's supposed to be.
It's so strange because like, and I put one clip on Twitter
and it wasn't really kind of to make,
because I guess it was to make fun of it
because it's a ridiculous like beat down Robert De Niro scene.
It's a beat down scene and it's very,
there's a scene in Goodfellas which is quite similar
with like the next door neighbour.
Like somebody in this one,
a shopkeeper like shoves the Irishman's daughter. Yeah.
And so he goes to the shopkeeper and he beats him up.
Like he,
he drags him out of the shop and he,
and he kicks him in the street.
But that is,
that is a prime example of how you can change somebody's face.
Yeah.
But when you're,
when you're 70,
75,
you can't change the physicality of a person.
It's the same thing with Samuel L. Jackson in Captain Marvel.
Whenever he's, like, doing an action scene, it's like,
it doesn't look right.
I mean, you can, but that's way more money than it is.
Well, you need to get a different person.
You need a double or you need to, like, invest millions of dollars
in a scene where he kicks a shopkeeper.
So why wouldn't you just?
Yeah.
And, like, the glass breaking and everything.
The whole scene is odd.
It's not into, the scene I don't think is entirely convincing.
It is in some scenes more than others.
But you mentioned that the youngified De Niro in this doesn't quite look right.
Well, because he doesn't look like young De Niro.
Because he's wider.
He's wider.
And like, because, you know, your head changes.
Yeah.
Because if you look at 40-year-old De Niro, like if you look at like Goodfellas Casino Heat,
that's what I was expecting to see.
Here's the thing, though.
And it's not that version.
No, I think you're right,
but I think he looks more Irish with a wider head.
Sure.
He looks, you know.
A big Irish head.
A big Irish head.
He looks like he's got a big potato head.
Yeah, okay.
Okay, sure.
I got a big Irish head.
I know.
Okay, sure.
I got a big Irish head.
I know.
So, yeah, I just found that incredibly inconsistent and distracting.
Sometimes it's quite good.
Sometimes it's quite plasticky.
There's things that they didn't really change.
Like old men get like watery eyes sometimes.
And when you've got like a smoothed out face and like old red watery eyes,
it's just.
And this is ILM.
This is the, but I guess this isn't there.
I feel like industrial light magic, you know,
when I was growing up was like, oh, if they're involved,
this is going to be seamless.
How did they do it?
Did they take reference footage from the earlier movies or did they just.
Did they smooth it out?
Did they use that iPhone?
I think they just smoothed it out because the way that they often do it is they'll scan,
they'll,
they'll reference old movies and they'll,
you know,
like they do with like Kurt Douglas and Michael Douglas,
whatever.
One of the Douglases.
What they did is they,
they euthanized Michael Douglas by taking an old photograph of old Kirk
Douglas,
pasting it over the top and two negatives.
It made him look younger by comparison. But uh no you're right because but i feel like
i'll tell my kurt russell like they get the hair and the footage and the references yeah yeah and
then they're like joe petra's like hey kid what's going on how old are you how old is he it's
mysterious because yeah you look the same age i was gonna say because ilm like again they're
known for high qualityquality CG and visual effects
and every kind of effect, but I guess this isn't their stock in trade kind of thing.
Yeah.
You know, if Scorsese's burning his bridges with the people who are the best at this,
Marvel, then...
Yeah, I mean, because look, it is an incredible cast, and people are saying it's good to see
all these guys back, but I feel like they don't have the energy anymore.
Yeah.
I think they've got the energy to do the older versions
because I think when they're old
and when they're in even older man makeup,
there's a moment where Joe Pesci is like 90 years old
and he's eating bread and he's shaking
and it looks genuine.
And the performance is good
because he's not doing younger,
he's doing his age or older.
I feel like, and I wonder if this was ever discussed,
if there would have been an opportunity
to get Leonardo DiCaprio as the young Frank.
I think they should have recast them all.
Yeah, right?
Genuinely.
And then do them old.
Well, it's the thing.
Like maybe-
I think that would have been way better.
Maybe a cast-
I guess the dilemma is,
do you get a cast of unknowns?
Yeah, right.
And then, but then-
But that's what they did for sort of like the godfather
too yeah they recast uh what's his name brando yeah right you know what i mean and deniro doesn't
look like brando at all you know what i mean so you yes yes but here's the thing there is but i
also feel like we've hit that you know we talked about a while back you know when we talk about
hobs and sure or fast and furious or whatever every actor has a certain list of demands of
like well i can't be seen as i'm gonna get all the actors are like or even like
bohemian rhapsody where it's like well all the characters have to get an equal amount of screen
time what have you yeah like is it a function of we could get younger actors but de niro requires
a certain amount of screen time and if you intercut him with a younger actor that's in breach of his
contract or something maybe and maybe it is distracting because people know him so well.
It's like recasting Harrison Ford as Han Solo or whatever.
Maybe that would be more distracting.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
I just found it.
But this is pretty, I mean, if that's a 10,
if recasting is a 10 on a level of distracting,
then this CGI is a nine.
Yeah, absolutely.
And if you look at like, I was just thinking about like Taxi Driver,
again, good fellas.
There's that vicious scene that beat down in the bar
where they get that guy down
and De Niro's just stomping this guy.
I feel like this is actually quite mild.
Yeah, absolutely.
There's such an energy to De Niro being that much younger
that they just is not here.
And again, I think it works in the back end
when they're supposed to be the ages that they are. I here and again i think it works in the back end when they're
supposed to be the ages that they are yeah i think it's really good then to constant to con to
constantly go back to the scene that you tweeted i don't if when i watch that i i if i'd been thrown
through like a glass door by deniro i still feel like i'd have the energy to just scamper out of
his way yeah totally this guy's just like, oh, I'm on the ground.
I don't care for this. And maybe it's like a fear thing as well.
But the sound effects don't match up.
It's just an odd scene.
Yeah. Something I like.
I mean, it's
worth a watch, I feel.
Oh, definitely. You know what I liked?
Again, there is a good all-star
cast in it, for the most part.
Anna Paquin's in this.
I don't know if anybody noticed she's in this.
I'd forgotten that she was in it until she turned up at like the three-hour mark maybe,
but she's really good as well.
Well, Jessie Plemons again, barely in it as well.
There's what I'm enjoying.
I don't know how much improvising is allowed on set,
but I felt a lot of the dialogue.
There's just some, I guess, throwaway dialogue
in some of the scenes in this movie.
There's a scene where Jesse Plemons' character is apologising.
Everybody gets in a car and he has to apologise
because he had to pick up a fish for someone.
It was a frozen fish and it thawed and it made the seats wet.
And there's this conversation about what kind of fish was it yeah why didn't you clean it up what's wrong
with you this play the car's always going to smell like fish there's a there's a scene i liked that
yeah yeah there's some scenes about like uh pacino who plays jimmy hoffer yeah uh he's he's very
concerned about time and being on time oh i love If you love a movie about Pacino being very particular about when people do
or do not show up for a meeting, then you are going to love this.
Ten minutes is too long, but five minutes is good enough,
and maybe I'm accounted for traffic, and it's rude of you,
and I was here early.
Yeah.
There's a character the the actor whose name
i cannot recall but he's in snatch he plays tommy in snatch and he was al capone i think in
boardwalk empire maybe okay yeah and he is he is a british actor i think he's sort of carved out a
niche he's like a as a kind of a mob guy he's he's done a lot of mob roles and he plays the rival union boss who he and Jimmy Hoffa have a rivalry and
I think he's great in this.
Oh yeah, I completely agree.
Yeah.
Because he's the age that he is.
He's the age that he is and he's playing the age that he is.
Yeah.
It also does the thing where I felt there's a casino.
One of the things I don't like about the movie Casino and this movie does it.
Is it Robert De Niro's many salmon-coloured suits?
No, I like that a lot.
That's great.
But they often start referencing and montaging things that,
and it's this more so, that are irrelevant
and they don't really factor into the story.
It's like, you know, it's like-
Also, just side note, here's us criticising Martin Scorsese.
Oh, yeah, look, again, I like-
I don't think there's a movie of his I don't like
except for Gangs of New York, which I really don't like.
I should re-watch Gangs of New York.
Maybe we should both re-watch Gangs of New York.
You know, it's like, what were we doing?
They were getting the money from Jimmy the Fix,
and Jimmy the Fix had to throw it over to Johnny No Legs,
who kept it in the safe before Sammy Too Ears showed up,
and he was like, they shot him, and it's just like,
what is this? Who cares?
It went from here to here to here or whatever and again i have a theory about that which is that martin scorsese
knows a lot of made guys like real mob guys yeah and he's promised them all minor roles in all of
his movies he has to get through all of them so he's like do you want a scene where you get handed
up an envelope full of money and then you walk across the street you hand the envelope of money
to another guy? Yeah.
Sure, I'll do it.
Sure.
Do you know what I mean?
I just find that stuff really like,
maybe it's a callback or a throwback,
but it's just like we don't,
I don't know, again,
what am I saying?
It's fucking Martin Scorsese.
I don't know what I'm talking about,
but I just found it so interesting,
the back end of this guy's life.
Yeah.
I don't even think he regrets what he's done
necessarily because he's clearly not that sorry he just doesn't want to he's done a lot of murders
yeah but he just he doesn't want to die and he's sad that nobody likes him because he sucks
you know and i think that's really interesting because i don't think he had i don't think he
had a problem with killing anybody i think he was that kind of guy but he was he still has these
regrets because his family hate him. And I feel like
a lot of people are potentially
not going to get
to that last hour. Yeah, right.
Because they've got,
they get, it is a lot of
Johnny No Legs passing an
envelope of cash. Sure.
If we're doing
Martin Scorsese's entity. I hate doing this because
there's no way I could
make anything anywhere near as good as this
here's the thing though
maybe something we know that Martin Scorsese doesn't
know is that we all have the attention spans
of goldfish at this point and we
know how Netflix works
and I don't think Martin Scorsese knows how Netflix
works and that people are going to
have 10,000 other
options could this have
benefited more from more flashbacks to,
well, not flashbacks, to more present day stuff of Frank being an old man
and people not caring about his life?
Absolutely, definitely.
And then minor flashbacks, because there is like a World War II flashback.
It's maybe a minute.
And I think it's really effective
because first of all
you don't really see
the de-aging
and he's supposed to be
like 24 or whatever.
Yeah, right,
because he's got a helmet on.
He's got a helmet on
for the most part
but it's right over his face.
He's on backwards.
He's on backwards
and you get an idea
of what kind of man
he is immediately
and then all the vicious
kind of stuff
he does from there
because he's so slow
and you can see
their old hands
and the kind of hunch and the way they, you notice it when they're going up
and down stairs and things like that.
Yeah, right.
And he's clearly wearing stilts for like the big shoes for a lot of it,
which we know from the, yeah.
Set photos, yeah.
Yeah, so whatever the thing you said is yes.
Yeah, right.
In answer to your question.
I mean, if that is what this movie is about, I guess all of the Scorsese mob movies are about,
well, people do bad things and redemption is just kind of out of reach
and people are often like, well, I kind of regret some of the stuff I did,
but now it's too late because I'm in jail or I got blown up.
Yes.
Most of these movies are about that.
But if this movie is a left turn from that and it's like,
because with Goodfellas and with with
casino and those ones we don't really see that much about like the end of the end of the life
and and somebody who survived all this blade the bloodshed and mayhem or whatever what are their
lives turned into and i think that that is maybe the most interesting part of like what what happens
to a sad old guy and like he's got all this stuff and people are like, whatever old man,
who cares about this Jimmy Hoffa guy you're talking about?
I don't care.
And it kind of makes me think about
the end of Goodfellas.
Yeah.
Where Ray Liotta's character,
who crushes it in that movie,
by the way.
Ray Liotta's amazing in that movie.
Ray Liotta's not back in this,
even for a minute.
No.
It doesn't really do this kind of stuff.
No, I guess that's true.
You know, he's a suburban guy.
And I'm not saying I want a Goodfellas sequel
because I certainly do not.
But like, it did make me think about...
Even better fellas.
Yeah, that's right.
Not as goodfellas.
Yeah, but it did make me think about like...
On fleek fellas.
What's in current reference?
I don't even know.
Dabbing fellas.
Dab fellas.
TikTok fellas.
But what happened to that guy?
And again, I don't want to see it,
but it made me think about there's so much that you could explore in that.
I know there's a movie I've been meaning to watch for years,
which is about the final years of Sherlock Holmes,
where he's got one more case, and it's Ian McKellen.
He's like 95 years old.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's supposed to be great.
I have it.
I've been meaning to watch it,
but I'm just hitting the same drum here.
But yeah, I don't know.
I think it was
wildly inconsistent, but also I
wonder if that last hour would have worked if I hadn't
seen the two hours prior. That's what I'm talking about.
If you want this to be a breezy
watch, what do you cut out? It's not the
breeziness of it, because I wasn't like
oh my god, this is fucking
excruciating. I did. Fair enough,
yeah. I guess there were moments.
Well, look, maybe I didn't initially, but I think I got to like.
It definitely sags in the middle.
I got to like one 18 left, like one, like an hour.
And I remember distinctly like one hour and 18 left.
And then I watched it for a really long time, a really long time.
And then I paused it for a second and had like one hour 10 left.
And I'm like, what happened?
What's, what's going on?
I don't understand.
We should have a segment called,
We Fix a Beloved Auteur's Movie.
By just cutting some stuff out.
Just cutting some stuff out.
What would we cut out of this idiot's movie?
But I guess.
But what if it was like. What beloved auteurs are really left, I guess idiot's movie? But I guess... But what if it was like...
What beloved auteurs are really left, I guess?
Yeah, Nolan, I guess.
I guess we'd have to go back to some old stuff
and be like, what are we cut out of this?
But I think...
Can you imagine if it was leaner and faster and more vicious?
And then when he's old,
I think that's more of an interesting contrast
because he's not that different when he's 90
to when he's supposed to be 40.
Yeah, right.
You know? Like when you see a guy, prime prime of his life stomping a man's head in
yeah and then he's in a nursing home and he's all like the nurses are being friendly and nice to him
that's weird you know what i mean like it's strange yeah but yeah i don't know i don't know
what's with is fucking wine and bread a thing because i'm pretty confident it isn't i don't
understand i mean i know you carpenter is a thing? Because I'm pretty confident it isn't. I don't understand. I mean, I know you-
Scarpetta is a thing.
Yeah, sure.
You've got a pasta sauce.
Yeah, absolutely.
And you put the bread in there and you're like-
Get that happening.
Get that, oh, I don't want to waste this sauce.
Yum, yum, yum.
You know it.
But I don't know.
Maybe it's probably a Catholic thing.
Yeah.
Yeah, I figured it's some kind of reference like that.
Also, he's not very Irish, is he?
If we're honest.
He's barely Irish.
No, exactly.
If you were like-
Theorite might be Irish, I don't know. If you were honest. He's barely Irish. No, exactly. The hero might be Irish.
I don't know.
If you were like, all right, look away from the screen.
Don't look at his big potato-y Irish head.
Listen to his dialogue.
Where's he from?
Which one of these guys is Irish?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, we haven't really done spoilers,
but I don't really have anything to say in terms of spoilers.
I don't think there is anything to spoil.
I mean, again, we know the main character lives to the modern era.
Yeah.
Jimmy Hoffer is like a Teamster union boss.
Yes.
Who famously disappeared, I feel.
So the circumstances of his disappearance are explored in this.
Yeah.
Or are they?
Like, is this an unreliable narrator who's like...
Yeah, I guess you'd have to look at the real story,
which I'm not really familiar with.
No one knows.
No one does know.
It's a real...
That prime minister that drowned in Australia.
Harold Holt.
Herald Holt.
The situation.
Picked up by a submarine.
So they say.
Yeah, that's right.
I don't see how.
You can't open a submarine underwater.
They do it at Terminator Salvation Star.
I was about to say, yeah.
But that was in the future.
Right.
I don't know.
It wasn't a 19... Do we have more to say about Mark Scorsese's The Irishman?
I mean, I'll 100% watch the next thing he's doing as well.
Yeah, right.
I like, like, I really like Wolf of Wall Street.
I really liked Silence, Goodfellas Casino, you know.
Yeah.
There was less, there was less, I feel, the spoils of war kind of like.
Oh, like really reveling in the.
Yeah.
Because I guess.
Because it was.
Because that's not.
I guess that's not what the Irishman's about.
He's just like, I want to provide for my family or whatever.
But like these kind of movies often are like, I'm in a casino and there's cash raining on me and diamonds.
And I'm throwing diamonds on Sharon Stone or whatever.
You know?
She doesn't like it.
They're sharp.
But I'm doing it.
I'm doing it regardless.
Yeah, I don't know, man.
Best movie ever?
Best movie ever.
Look, this movie from Renando to Martin Scorsese
is definitely worth a watch.
If that back-end stuff about regret and old age appeals to you,
stick through it, I would say.
I wonder if there's a weird edit order you could do it in
to make it seem more...
Could you watch the back end first somehow?
I don't know.
I don't...
I'll probably not watch this again.
Yeah, right, fair enough.
Would you watch this again?
Okay, could you as an option not watch this movie again?
Yeah, yeah.
Cool, cool, cool.
Would you not watch this movie again?
Do you think there's an editing order
where you could just simply not watch the film?
What would that look like?
Could you simply listen to our review again?
Yeah.
I would actually be really interested in what people think of this.
Yeah.
Because there's a lot of people loving it, but I am seeing people who are like,
oh, it's boring and it sucks and it's...
And bloody, what's his name, who?
Scorsese who or whatever, you know?
Robert De Niro who? Robert De Niro or whatever, you know? Robert De Niro who?
Robert De Niro.
Harvey Keitel who?
Robert De Niro.
Oh, yeah, nice.
Got him.
Thank you.
Got him.
Oh, yeah, Harvey Keitel's in this.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, my God, Harvey Keitel's.
Oh, he's not really in this.
Ray Romano's good in this.
Yeah, he's sort of the mob lawyer.
Yeah.
Not a mob lawyer.
He's a union lawyer.
He's a mob lawyer.
He's a mob lawyer.
Let's not beat around the bush He's good in this
I did like at the end
I guess
This is a spoiler
That they're like
He's like
Call my lawyer
And he's like
Everyone's dead idiot
Everyone you know
Is dead
Just tell us what went on
And he's like
I won't do it
I won't do it
I thought that was interesting
I won't give you no names
Yeah
Yeah Exactly Well you can give us the name Of all the dead people Which is everyone Yeah that's right I won't do it. I thought that was interesting. I won't give you no names. Yeah.
Exactly.
Well, you can give us the name of all the dead people,
which is everyone.
Yeah, that's right.
Exactly.
Because actually there was a thing kind of happening where like they'd show a guy and then they'd flash up on screen,
shot in the head this year, had a heart attack in this year.
And I'm like, why are they doing this?
Who cares?
Right.
Then obviously it's because by the time you get to the end,
it's like, oh, that's showing that all these people are just slowly being whittled
away from his life. I guess that's true, but
also... Also I was thinking like, how many
of these guys did he kill?
Right, but also I guess
you don't
really, like many of these characters
are just kind of background characters.
For the three hours we get, like the
two plus hours in the
past,
we don't really see him with that many friendships.
Yeah. So the fact that some guy got whacked or like, you know, he got shot or hanged or whatever
or shivved 19 times in the head or whatever, it doesn't feel like that much of a loss.
Yeah.
Like if he had some genuine friendships in that era and then we see that character killed.
I mean, I guess there is that.
There's that one that happens.
Yeah, right.
It's like a genuine one.
But yeah.
Because that's actually one thing about Goodfellas is when the people around and close to him
die, it affects the Ray Liotta character like greatly and that changes the course of his
life.
Yeah.
Because they were goodfellas.
Because they were good mates.
Friendfellas. Friend fellas.
Friend fellas.
Best fellas.
Best fellas.
They all used to kiss when the cameras turned off.
That's great.
That's a little behind the scenes.
That's nice.
That's really good.
That's good.
They're Italian.
Yeah, now I get it.
One of them is maybe Irish.
All right, the next segment.
Yeah, what are we reading?
What are we going to read?
Oh, my goodness.
I'm doing a thing
what are we reading
today
I was gonna say
contained within this segment
obviously
what we reading
I think it's now
a regular feature
is our feature
who watches
the TV show
Watchmen
parentheses
James and Mace
so asterisk
weekly planet podcast it's a good show if somebody could knock that up in show Watchmen, parentheses, James and Maiso, asterisk,
Weekly Planet Podcast.
It's a good show.
If somebody could knock that up in the Watchmen font, that would be really good.
Yeah.
Also, do you reckon we should edit this into a spin-off podcast,
just a four-minute podcast of us going, yeah, it was good.
I think I liked the last one. It was pretty good.
It was good, yeah.
I liked the last one.
The squid wasn't in that one, but I liked it.
The squid, this one.
Do you want to talk about Watchmen up top?
Yes.
Okay.
Spoilers for the last episode of Watchmen.
Yeah, right.
Here we go.
It's gone in some good directions.
You called the-
I did call this one.
It was Hood of Justice.
It was African American all along.
That was really, I really liked that.
Because I saw the trailer for the next episode,
and it's like, it's a trip down memory lane.
And I'm like, boo, I don't want to trip down memory lane.
Why don't you want a trip down memory lane?
Because prequels, man.
Okay, right.
But I really liked it.
I thought every episode seems to really build really well off the last one.
Yeah, and everyone has an interesting take.
I mean, TV should, I guess.
Yes.
This is an example of competently made television.
Competently made serialized narrative.
What a twist.
What a twist.
Yeah, but I thought
what an interesting way to
enact justice in a way
that won't have people come after you in that
era. It seemed like it
would have been a necessity, not just like
in this universe, but if a similar thing
happened now, it just wouldn't
happen that way. You know what I mean?
And they explore the
relationship between him and Captain Metropolis,
which,
and he doesn't believe him about the cult and the whatever and all that.
Yeah.
I just thought it was great.
What about you?
And there's some,
you know,
some revelations as to how the present day version of him,
who is in a wheelchair managed to hang the police chief.
Yes.
He's got him to hang himself with a hypnotic strobe light.
I thought it was also interesting that maybe he wasn't a Klan member,
but he's clearly got Klan ties because he's kept this thing.
Yeah, right.
But I'm like, why would you have that?
Well, that's a-
They'd be like keeping your grandpa's Nazi uniform.
Why do they keep all the Confederate statues up?
I don't know.
That's a good question.
Yeah.
What do you think it's going from here?
We didn't get any Ozymandias this episode. No, the next episode we definitely don't. They're all kind of's a good question. Yeah. What do you think it's going from here? We didn't get any Ozymandias this episode.
No.
Well, next episode we definitely don't.
They're all kind of self-contained.
Yeah.
And what is interesting to me is a lot of these episodes are kind of self-contained.
Yeah.
But it all does feel like a larger narrative.
I'm not like, well, this is disjointed and weird.
It feels like we're heading for a cliffhanger, though.
At the end of the season?
Oh, yeah, for sure.
It'll be the return of Dr. Manhattan or Ozymandias
will be back
or there'll be
a second squid
oh no
do you think clones
might be the new squid
mmm
you know what I'm
talking about
clones
like a delicious dish
clones are the new squid
oh yeah for sure
yeah yeah
fish and chip shop
and get some battered clones
they deep fry
a portion of your own
clone flesh
and you eat it.
Delightful.
Like a creep.
I don't know, because Lady True has some kind of cloning technology.
Yeah, absolutely.
I don't know.
Anyway, anything else on this?
Do you want to talk about Mandalorian?
Yeah.
It was all right.
Wait, our famous segment, who watches the TV show The Mandalorian?
James Mason.
Asterisk Weekly Planet Podcast.
If somebody could make that in the Star Wars font or in an opening crawl,
I would appreciate it.
This felt like a very expensive episode of, say, like,
Walker Texas Ranger.
Xena Warrior Princess.
Anything like that.
But also those tropes obviously go way back to like, you know,
like your Seven Samurais.
Yeah, I mean, I guess there is kind of a, it's very much,
if you were on board with this show generally, you'd be like, oh, this is a throwback to classic hero storytelling techniques.
But if you are not, you'd be like, well, this is quite formulaic
in the sense that, I mean, spoilers for The Mandalorian.
Yes.
That, you know, he goes to the town
and he's initially hesitant
because he's all about duty and being The Mandalorian
and Mandalorian about the universe or what have you.
But then he finds that it's a place
he really could settle down and enjoy,
but then there's trouble.
But then he learns to,
maybe he falls in love with the widower,
the beautiful widower that lives there.
Cool.
But also, and then he solves all the problems,
and then maybe it is time to settle down,
except they've found him and he has to go.
Has to go.
It feels like this idea that the only reason he's turning around
and thinking about settling down is because narratively we know he can't.
Yes. Because we know that can't yes because he because
we know that there's something that's immediately the rest of the series isn't going to be him yeah
right farming exactly yeah great inclusion of the atst it's like this monster in the woods it
actually the whole thing reminded me of battle for endor that ewok movie yeah because they got
a they got a it's like a gang of marauders and and there's a gang of uh peaceful villagers you
gotta learn to fight it's very care which, it all calls back to whatever and whatnot.
But Gina Carano I thought was really great.
She's good.
I hope she shows up again as opposed to –
Have you seen Haywire?
I think we talk about it every time.
But they dubbed her voice in that apparently.
And this – she's better, I assume.
I'm going to look her up very quickly because I'm not really sure what she's been in other than those two things.
Probably a Fast and Furious movie.
She's probably been in a Fast and Furious movie.
Because Ronda Rousey was in Seven.
Yes, she's in Deadpool.
Oh, she is too.
Yeah, that's right.
She's good in Deadpool.
Mixed martial arts record.
Seven wins, three by knockout.
One by submission, three by decision.
Oh.
One loss by knockout.
Probably the last fight.
Notable relatives at Glenn Carano.
He's got his own Wikipedia page.
I'll check out that later.
Open a tab.
Anyway, blah, blah, blah, television and film career.
She was at Cameo and Kill Bill Volume 1.
She's a witness at the wedding.
Really?
Yeah, apparently.
But there's no...
There's no...
Can't click on it.
Can't click on it.
She was in a cult film called Ring Girls.
She's in Command and Conquer Red Alert 3.
With Jim Carrey? I hope Girls. She's in Command and Conquer Red Alert 3. With Jim Carrey.
I hope so.
See you in that one.
Where they go to the one place capitalism can't touch.
Outer space.
She's in a Michael J. White film Blood and Bone in 2009.
She's in Haywire.
In the Blood, an action thriller directed by John Stockwell.
She signed on as lead in an all-female ensemble action film
described as the female version of Expendables.
Oh, I remember that.
She's in Fast and Furious 6.
Oh, she is.
She's on the Rocks team before he joins the Fast and Furious team.
Did she betray him or anyone?
Doesn't matter.
Keep reading.
No, she fights Michelle Rodriguez, though.
Oh, okay.
In July 2013,
she and comic book creator Rob Liefeld
announced they were working on a big screen adaptation
of Liefeld's Evangeline.
Now, if you don't know Evangeline,
Evangeline was like prime 90s...
It's like Barbarella or Stripperella or whatever.
Yeah, she was like Fallen Angel kind of character,
but she was in that prime era of female depictions
in comic books where they had like the...
Martini glass waist.
Yeah, the martini glass waist and like the big boobs
and the big butt
and every shot of the character
was like that super weird cheesecake
where they're like snapped,
like they're twisted
so you can see their boobs and their butt
at the same time.
You know that shot?
Yeah.
And then he's got a big sword or whatever.
You know?
Great stuff.
Anyway, that doesn't seem to have happened.
Yeah.
She's in Deadpool.
There we go.
They did a test footage
and she got a severe injury from doing that pose.
Yeah.
Anyway, good for her.
Good for her.
Yeah, anyway, I really liked her in this
and I hope she comes back
because a lot of these characters
kind of zip in and zip out.
I wonder whether he's building a ragtag team.
Yeah, right.
Like at the end he's got...
He's got Gina Carano.
Gina Carano's got Carl Weathers.
He's got an IG-88 version or whatever.
They think they'll put him back together?
Put his head back together?
Or another version.
There's millions of those things.
The Kindly Widow?
Kindly Widow, nah, nah.
She can shoot, come on.
No, but it's love.
I think he might be assembling a ragtag team.
Yeah, right.
Glenn Carano was on the Dallas Cowboys.
Excellent.
Which is a football team.
Someone on... Was it just a set of Cowboys?
It was some Dallas Cowboys.
Uh,
somebody on the planet,
uh,
broadcasting great mates,
Facebook group.
Who?
I'm going to find out,
uh,
had a theory.
Well,
not a theory,
but,
but was basically,
uh,
wouldn't it be good if the Mandalorian was revealed to be a lady?
Oh,
right.
How good would that be?
Oh man.
They,
they Samus around it. They Samus around it from Metro. I would be shocked? Oh, man. They Samus-er-an it.
They Samus-er-an it from Metroid.
I would be shocked.
Yeah, right.
Because they've clearly cast a man.
Pedro Pascal, yeah.
But, I mean.
You can alter the voice or whatever.
That's what I'm saying.
Voice modulator.
And people are like, well, it's not a very Lady Arbor, is it?
Phasma.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Yeah.
They're like, well well we've seen a
lady version of it because there's a late the blacksmith is a lady black and she's wearing
lady i can't be two ladies but that's what i'm saying but i mean like some people dress in a
more femme in the real world some people can dress like and in different ways i don't know if you're
aware of that i don't believe you yeah i saw a ben uh who edits a lot a lot of great stuff including caravan and garbage uh comment on a tweet that was like i can't believe you yeah i saw ben uh who edits a lot of great stuff including caravan and
garbage uh comment on a tweet that was like i can't believe that the only person who could
shoot in the village turned out to be the woman like how how why is she the only one where did
she learn to shoot uh-huh people learn to people learn to shoot places what do you want a fucking
mini series about where she yes yes yeah god oh i'm now i'm fired up For Kindly Widow
The Kindly Widow
Mandalorian font
But also
Also those people don't
Boom boom boom boom
People like that
Don't want
Kindly Widow
Explain a series
Of why they could
Shoot anyway
Anyway
But I think also
People don't know
That apparently
That Samus Aran
The big reveal
That she
Samus Aran in Metro
Metroid was a woman
Isn't that generally loved Yeah I think so That reveal People like, Samus Aran in Metroid was a woman.
Isn't that generally loved?
Yeah, I think so.
That reveal?
People like that reveal.
People blow their minds.
Are we going to say people already knew?
No, a lot of people didn't know.
Yeah.
A lot of people now don't know that that was a big reveal at the time.
Oh, yes, yes, yes. Like it's commonly known that she's a woman in the modern games,
but I think.
Well, yeah, I think it's one of those things that I always,
because I saw it in a Nintendo magazine or whatever,
so I always knew, yeah.
Also, if we're talking about what we're reading,
what we're going to read,
Chip Zdarsky, Jason Liu with Colours by Paris Alleyne,
they've worked together on a Comixology exclusive comic
called Afterlift, which is basically an Uber driver
who's tasked with taking somebody to the underworld.
Oh, that's fun.
And it's a couple issues in, and it's, I mean,
all those people involved are good, and I think, yeah, it's definitely couple issues in and it's I mean all those people involved
are good
and I think
it's definitely worth a read
if you like
comics about
I mean
old lore
versus bloody
millennial tech
Mason
you're gonna love
After Lift
you like Chips and Zadarsky
I do like Chips and Zadarsky
yeah
I watched a
on YouTube
it was Scarlett Johansson
and Chris Evans interview each other yeahlett Johansson and Chris Evans.
Interview each other on it?
Yeah, that thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And Chris Evans recently was in a play called Lobby Hero.
Oh, yeah?
I don't know if that's relevant to anyone,
but I just thought that was interesting.
It's a security guard in his late 20s,
his strict supervisor, an overbearing cop,
and his rookie female partner.
It's set in the foyer of a middle-income Manhattan apartment building
in the middle of the night.
Okay, there you go.
Not fun. I like Chris Evans. I the night. Okay, there you go. Not fun.
I like Chris Evans.
I do too.
Why don't you marry him?
Is he already married?
I don't think he is.
He's married to his dogs.
Good for him.
He loves dogs, Mason.
Oh my goodness.
That's really good.
Not in a weird way, I assume.
Is that right?
Anything else?
I like that Mandalorian thing.
Yeah, it's good.
But again, can't recall it
off the top of my head.
Same guy who scored Community.
Oh.
Yeah.
Which I'm actually re-watching at the moment. How's that going? It's good. It's actually, yeah, good. But again, can't recall it off the top of my head. Same guy who scored Community. Oh. Yeah. Which I'm actually re-watching at the moment.
How's that going?
It's good.
It's actually, yeah, I'd forgotten.
I was kind of like, is that good?
It still holds up.
I mean, it's still dated because it started like 10 years ago.
But there's a lot of funny stuff in there.
Nice.
I love funny stuff.
Magnitude.
Incredible.
Oh, yeah.
Anything else?
No, that's about it, I reckon.
Should we do letters?
Yeah.
Let's talk about letters.
The classic one was letters, oh, letters.
Good speaker on that. I Let's talk about letters. The classic one was letters, oh letters. Good speaker on that.
Give a few, some letters.
They're only a day away.
I know they're here right now.
We're going to do letters.
It's got 11,000 views.
That can't be right.
No, it is because it's on YouTube, obviously.
Have we done 11,000 shows?
We've done 11,000 episodes, yeah.
That actually makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hey, if you want to reach the show,
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I've got one right here.
It's from Spudbear.
It says, what's the best live-action Joker design?
Not characterization or performance, but just the way they look.
Live-action.
Is it Cesar Romero for you?
That's a really good question.
We've talked about it before, but I like elements of the Jared Leto one.
Everything but the tattoos I really like.
Yeah, I like it as well.
I like the fact that he's not strictly in a costume.
He's just wearing really garish, like gold tuxedos or whatever.
He looks like Mickey Rourke just walking down the street.
I don't know if you've ever seen Mickey Rourke in his daily life.
I absolutely have.
It's all snakeskin shoes and tuxedo jackets in the daytime.
He's got it going on.
Yeah, I genuinely like that design.
I also like that when he went to rescue Harley Quinn,
he put on white tie and tails.
It was very nice.
It was like a special occasion.
That is nice, yeah.
I like Jack Nicholson's version.
I don't.
Well, I like him.
I like everything but the face.
Yeah, right, right, right.
I like the suits and the guns and the weird stuff.
I actually like his look more when he's just Jack Napier.
Oh, okay, yeah.
Because it's meant to be reminiscent of his character in Chinatown.
Well, then you must love the movie Chinatown.
I do like the movie Chinatown.
Are they doing a prequel to that or something?
Oh.
Yeah.
China just a couple of shops on a street that isn't quite finished yet.
Empty street town.
What's going to be built here?
Did you see the sequel to that?
The Two Jakes, yes
Not good, right?
He's still got that bandage?
The injury to his face has healed by the time of The Two Jakes
Did they write that into the movie because he had an actual injury in real life?
I don't know, I couldn't tell you
I can tell you that his father was in the Dallas Cowboys
I don't believe you
No, it's probably for the best.
Like a group of cowboys?
Yeah, I mean, Ledger, obviously, as well.
Oh, yeah, no, actually, that design I like a lot.
I like the way the makeup kind of rots off over the course of the movie,
like he's just slept in it.
Yes.
Yeah.
A lot of people have pointed out to me that, speaking of Joker,
you can't just put green dye in your hair because it'd come out.
Yeah.
He would have had to bleach his hair first.
Yeah, he would have.
Yeah, because his hair's dark, so it wouldn't come out.
Also, I hate that design.
I don't like any aspect of it.
I don't like his big underpants.
I don't mind the suit.
Yeah.
Yeah, because it kind of sees a remnant of this.
You know, I like Ledger's design a lot, except for the tie,
which I think is incongruous with the rest of the outfit.
Do you think that's too...
That's what you come here for, insights about the tie.
But isn't that to annoy you specifically?
I think it is kind of to annoy me specifically.
I think Christopher Nolan, because if you've seen Christopher Nolan,
like a lot of his characters dress like him.
Yes.
Like in characters Inception and whatever,
dress like Christopher Nolan.
And I think maybe that is designed to annoy specifically people who dress like him. Yes. Like in characters Inception and whatever dress like Christopher Nolan and I think maybe
that is designed
to annoy specifically people
who dress like him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, fair enough.
Son of a bitch
Christopher Nolan.
Son of a bitch.
Do you want to read
a letter out?
Yes, I do.
This is from Looper Ward.
I think they've all
got good stuff about them.
Yeah, I think so too.
I was serious about
the Cesar Romero thing.
I think that totally
works for that era.
Also, I like that
Heath Ledger's version
has a coat full of hand grenades.
Yeah, that's terrific.
At all times, do you reckon?
Yeah, pretty much, I reckon.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And if somebody shoots him in the wrong spot,
he's done and he's okay with that.
This is from a guy named Looper Ward.
Love it.
He says, my name is Looper.
That's the subject.
Is that it?
Is that the whole email?
Yeah, that's it.
My name is Looper.
Is it short for something?
Yeah, Looper.
Email back, Looper.
I want to know what the origin of your name is.
This can't be a nickname, surely.
Looper Random.
Looper Random?
No, that doesn't work.
My name is Looper, so your last episode was very enjoyable,
if not kind of weird, like when you said Looper Juices.
I did not like the Looper movie, but my question to you would be,
if you had a movie with your name as the title,
what genre would you want it to be,
and would you prefer it to be really bad or really good?
Also, can I be the official looper of the podcast?
Bad.
Bad movie.
You want a bad movie with the name James?
Mr. Sunday Movies.
Oh, no.
There's plenty of bad movies with that bloody title in them.
Oh, my goodness.
Are you going to go nostalgia critic style?
Are you going to fund your own movie?
I'm going to do it
nice
and it's all the
wacky adventures of us
and I saved the universe
at the end
oh my goodness
that's exciting
but
it has to be a movie
called James
when you think of
a movie
a movie called James
sounds like a serious movie
about a guy
who becomes the president
or something
well that sounds like
a Kevin Kline movie
where he accidentally
becomes the president
that sounds whimsical
to me
it might be a bit whimsical
but if it was Jimmy then it would be like...
About Jimmy Hoffa.
It would be another movie about Jimmy Hoffa.
You can change James where it kind of changes the context.
What do most people call you?
James, surely.
I get a mix, but James mostly, yeah.
It has to be a movie called James.
Yes.
See, I think it would be about a president, I think.
Like it would be humanising whatever president was called James.
Whichever one.
I'm sure there was one.
James Patterson.
James McAllister.
James McPatterson.
I'm going to look up president James.
I'm not going to.
There's a president called James, I'm sure.
Okay, so it's a very serious movie about a president.
But it's bad?
Yeah, but it's bad.
It's one of those ones where it's like it's so earnest and like Oscar-baited,
but it's terrible.
Yeah, it's one of those ones where the,
the previous year,
somebody made a similar movie and it got some Oscar bait.
So some,
so a bunch of idiots with too much money,
more money than sense.
We're like,
let's make it.
It's like,
remember when,
like that Nixon movie.
Yeah.
It's like,
you know,
when walk hard skewered all the music biopics and now you watch one of those
and you're like,
Oh,
this is terrible.
This is walk hard.
It's a,
it's,
it's,
it's somebody,
somebody made a parody of like a president biopic.
And this is the movie that came after it.
So it's really earnest and it's terrible.
Yeah, 100%.
Mason though.
Would you go Mason or would you go full name?
I'll go Nicholas Mason.
Because I think Nick Mason is like an action hero name.
Yeah.
You know, kind of like whatever the guy's name in Equalizer is.
But I mean, there's the secret life of Nick Mason,
or the second life of Nick Mason.
How often do you get tweeted that?
Every day, but I haven't read it, and I shan't read it.
They're going to turn it into a movie as well.
Are they really?
I don't know, probably.
And then I'm going to get it forever.
What is that, like a spy novel?
Like an espionage thing?
No, it's about a guy, and he had a deep, dark past,
and I think he's like a criminal
and he gets released from prison early and then like under mysterious circumstances by
some crime guy.
And he's like, I've released you early so you can do crimes.
And he's like, but I don't want to do crimes.
I want a second life for me, Nick Mason.
That's right.
Yeah.
Cool.
Podcaster.
It is you.
Yeah.
So, but it was, I don't know.
I feel like it had like, well, walk hard, like in an equalizer, like a John Wick.
I feel like it's that kind of name.
Oh, okay.
I feel like that's the kind of thing it would be.
If it were just Mason.
Like a revenge thing.
But also you've got a heart of gold.
So like you think you're a little bit past your prime.
You're in it.
Oh, good.
You've got a deep, dark past.
Yep.
And you've had some tragedy.
I'm wearing the stilt shoes.
Yeah, you're wearing the stilt shoes.
I'm staggering around the neighborhood, just shuffling.
But something happens.
Like somebody, like a local kid gets kidnapped and you have to.
Okay.
Hush it up.
No, you have to.
But I'm conflicted about it.
I'm conflicted about it the whole time.
Let's say you hide for like private security
for like
there's you know
someone who owns a shop
in the street
their kid gets kidnapped
and they have to go after
I was just thinking
it'd be about a guy
who like
makes a thing out of stone
that's not true
makes like
paves a driveway
or something
paves a driveway
Larry Bird did that
he wrecked his back
doing it
did he really
yeah he did
he like
concreted his dad's driveway
and ruined his back
Larry Bird
Larry Bird the basketball player yes like concreted his dad's driveway and ruined his back. Larry Bird. Larry Bird, basketball player.
Yes.
He paved his own dad's driveway.
Yes.
Free basketball or after basketball?
When he was playing, it was one of those hardworking kind of like southern kind of dudes.
He still is.
Do you think that's a mini game in like the Jordan versus Bird video game?
Do you think that's a mini game in like the Jordan versus Bird video game?
Depending on which character you pick,
like halfway through, Michael Jordan plays golf badly.
No, baseball.
Baseball, whatever.
And Larry Bird paves his dad's driveway.
And it's a Tetris-style game.
Oh, terrific.
Imagine Tetris.
It's like a wavy driveway and tiles come down and you've got to and you've got to crook back
you've got to crook back
yeah exactly
and then when you play
the second half of the game
you're injured
you've got like
your heart
you're bent over
and like if you move too fast
like lightning bolts
come out of your back
that's right
I would like to see
an NBA Jam style game
where Larry Bird
paves the driveway
you know it's just ridiculous
over the top
and yeah sometimes it's like ridiculous over the top. Yeah.
Sometimes it's like, he's on fire, and you just like pave.
Concrete mix.
Yeah, nice.
Anyway, the Larry Bird video game,
and answer to whatever this question was.
Yep, I paved my dad's driveway.
Yeah, look, I like your one also.
Thanks.
This is from AJ Valente.
He says, hashtag weekly planner pod.
I'd like to hear what your favorite mockumentaries are.
Mine currently is Wellington Paranormal,
which I've never seen.
That's a good show.
I gotta watch it.
Is it linked to the other Wellington supernatural Taika Waititi movie?
What we do in the shadows.
Yeah, it is.
It is linked.
So it's a spinoff of that.
It's the same universe.
Yeah.
Cause I've seen the pilot of that show as well,
which I quite like.
Oh, I don't know if it's a pilot.
I don't know if it's been off of the TV series,
but they're all sort of linked. Yeah, but it's a spin-off of the movie okay okay i assume they're linked if unless what we do in the shadows the tv series is a weird remake or
something uh a movie that nobody really watched but i think it's really funny and it's recent
is pop star never stop never stopping that's great andy sandberg he's kind of like a justin bieber
also and what's his name the other justin justin timberlake yeah he's kind of like a Justin Bieber. What's his name? The other Justin.
Justin Timberlake?
Yeah.
He's kind of like that-esque kind of a Macklemore kind of character.
Yeah, right.
And it's just lunacy.
And it's a good one.
And it's very funny.
And it's got a great cast.
Yep.
And it made no money.
Like nobody saw it.
Yeah, right.
It's terrific.
And it's got great music.
It's streaming out there.
That's where I saw it, I think.
Yeah.
Have you got one?
Spinal Tap, this is.
This is Spinal Tap.
I don't really, I'd have to watch that again.
I mean, speaking of War Card, that's the one.
Oh, yeah.
That's not a mockumentary.
It's a biopic, really.
Have you ever seen Look Around You?
That's a TV series.
Is that?
No.
It's like a parody of all those, Australia especially, if you'd watch the ABC in like
an afternoon, it'd be like, here's nature.
Look at nature.
Right, okay.
It's kind of like a spoof science show.
Okay, right.
When is this from?
Early 2000s maybe?
Okay, fair enough.
All right, cool.
Borat comes up when you Google this.
Oh, yeah, okay.
I mean, yeah.
I feel like Borat's been ruined just by people.
By people doing Borat impressions?
Surf's Up.
I'm looking at Surf's Up as in, yeah.
What's Surf's Up?
It's a movie where Shia LaBeouf voices a surfing CGI penguin.
That's a great mockumentary.
I'm pretty confident.
Kenny, which is an Australian mockumentary about-
Beef and Dairy Network, the podcast, is a great mockumentary,
I guess, of sorts.
Did you see Bruno?
No, I've never seen Bruno.
I think I did.
I don't remember liking it very much.
Anyway, yeah, there's some mockumentaries for you.
But the number one for me, if you haven't seen it, would be Pops.
Might not be the best, but Pops, I'll never stop, never stop.
That's a good one, yeah.
Very good.
Anyway, Look Around You, I think it's probably on YouTube.
Not a mockumentary, but something, they just released it and I have to get it.
Are you aware of Scarfolk?
No.
It's a blog
it's a blog set in a weird town in england where the 70s keeps like looping okay and it's like this
kind of surreal i don't know it's hard it's hard to describe yeah but they've released recently uh
the scarfolk annual okay just like you know you know um again when we were kids the the this thing
was like an annual.
It would be like the Knight Rider annual.
And it was just like a hardback kind of book.
And it had like comics and cartoons and like prose stuff
and puzzles and mazes and whatever.
And it's like a parody of that.
I have to get it because it looks.
Like a physical copy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, right.
Okay, cool.
Scarfolk.
Scarfolk.
Scarface, the movie.
Got it.
Hang on, I'm going to get one up here.
Scarfolk, a fictional northern English town created by writer and designer Richard Littler,
a blog of fake historical documents, parodying British public information posters of the
70s.
I know that doesn't sound exciting at all, but it's super weird and kind of-
Good?
Yeah, it's like a satire of that decade,
and it's also like a satire of now, like through the lens of the 70s.
Cool.
Yeah, I wonder if you can check it out.
If you go to scarfolk.blogspot.com,
this month they've released the Little Lady Breath Mirror Corpse Detection Set.
So it's like a fake, you know, like a plastic action figure set,
and you pop it out, and they're like,
there's a pink one for girls
and a blue one for boys
love it
and you check if somebody's alive with it
anyway that's an example
yeah
okay cool
I'll check that out
have you got another letter
or is that
I've got some more letters
don't even worry about it mate
don't even worry about it
I wasn't that worried
to be honest
either way
oh this
this is from Conla Quinn
you might know from photoshopping
and his first name
her name
being spelt
C-O-N-L-A-O-D-H
oh very good.
Hey, Jimmy and Nicky,
with the imminent release of James' magnum opus.
Hello.
It's not a magnum opus.
Or there is something I need to know.
What was the glaringly strange thing that James noticed
about Han Solo during The Force Awakens?
Oh, okay, yeah, I can know this.
He mentioned it months and months ago,
and I thought like a fool that he would reveal this
in Revelation, an upcoming video, but alas, no dice.
I never did it.
But there is a moment in The Force Awakens where ray is talking to han solo after they land
on maz kanata's planet and they're talking to each other and what they've done they've either
reshot it or taken the same footage from the thing and kind of mixed it together but han solo's face
is not attached properly to his forehead and it shifts yes like his face his forehead moves and
his head doesn't.
So they've clearly just pasted his head on.
And like colour-wise it matches perfectly.
Yes.
But I don't know whether they did it in a pick-up or whatever,
but they've put his face on himself.
Oh, not a double or anything?
No.
Okay.
And it shifts.
There's like a second where it like shifts sideways.
I just, yeah, it's baffling to me what happened there.
And nobody else is like.
No, not to my knowledge.
You're the only one who's picked up on it.
It seems to be.
I mean, also nobody else is talking about this.
Well.
Obviously.
Of course.
You know, so anyway, that's the thing.
Yeah.
Yeah, I got one last email.
This is from Dave Murray.
Hello, Dave.
This is Wandering Movie Men.
Hi, James and May.
So my 14-year-old son Baxter and I are currently walking the Te Araroa Trail,
which is the length of New Zealand.
And I was hoping you'd give Baxter a shout-out on your show.
He's currently walked over 750 kilometres
and he's still going strong.
Hello, Baxter.
Congratulations.
Stop doing it, Baxter.
You've gone too far.
We're listening to your show in the evenings
as we rest and get ready for the next day.
Thanks for the great show.
It really picks us up after a long day.
That's amazing. 750 kilometres. My goodness. It really picks us up after a long day. That's amazing.
750 kilometres.
My goodness.
It's a beautiful country, though.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
It's not all the sheep stuff, but let's not get into it.
That's incredible.
Shout out and well done.
Well done, Baxter.
And Dave, I guess.
But you're a grown man.
You're a grown man.
As far as we know.
It doesn't count.
Yeah.
Yeah, if you want to reach the show, it's something.
No, do the end of the show.
Oh, thank you.
Do that.
Is that the end of the show?
It's the end of the show.
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James, do you have a nice review?
You know I do.
This is from Bryce Lover Forever.
It says podcast.
That's the title.
Nice, good, good, good.
Five stars says it is a podcast you can listen to.
It's good, end of review.
So they can be as brief as that.
You can do it right in app.
Some people like to insult friends or give shout outs through there.
It's a good way to sneak that in if you want to.
It is a good way, that's right.
Sometimes I don't read them properly before I start reading them out.
So, you know, reviews always help.
And sometimes the reviews seem to disappear as well.
So if you have reviewed and you can do another one.
Maybe review every day.
Yeah, every day
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That's the whole show, I think.
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Next week, depending on what happens,
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We've got some big trailers this week.
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It is.
3-manji?
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That's a good one.
That's great.
That's going to live on in infamy.
Yeah, I think so.
I'm going to tweet it to all the celebrities involved,
and they're all going to block me.
Definitely.
Yeah.
Because Sathura, I was going to say,
that's technically a Jumanji movie.
No, it isn't.
It is.
It counts.
It's not.
It counts, Mason.
It's not even a spiritual successor.
It fucking is a spiritual successor.
It's just a movie about board games.
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