The Weekly Planet - 321 Birds Of Prey Bombs
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Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows.
My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday.
With me as always is my co-host Nick Mason.
Have I been mispronouncing it all these years?
I don't know what happened then.
I nearly said with me as always is my podcast Nick Mason as well. Right. That whole thing. I don't know what happened then. I nearly said with me as always is my podcast, Nick Mason, as well.
Right.
That whole thing.
I don't know what happened.
My brain was fighting it.
Evidently, yeah.
It's not even that late in the day.
It's really not.
It's half past eight.
It's half past eight.
8.39, according to your clock.
But that's late for Mr. James.
It certainly is.
Thank you for finally getting it right.
Is this a Luke Skywalker situation?
It could very well be. Are you James finally getting it right. Is this a Luke Skywalker situation? It could very well be.
Are you James' clone?
James.
James.
Because you've come out wrong.
Let me tell you.
Not right.
The Emperor should go back, get another sample.
Yeah, see what you can do.
Yeah.
Because Luke Skywalker was cloned from Luke's seven hand, right?
Seven hand, that's right.
So you were cloned from one of James' poops.
That's right.
Okay, but with the hand, did he grow out of the hand?
That's a good question.
I've always assumed that, but I guess the hand is just somewhere.
I don't know the technology of that.
The hand became a thing in the Addams family.
So it just hung around for generations.
And traveled through space.
Good stuff.
It is good stuff.
I was really excited for that connection.
This is a winning riff.
Oh, my God.
We've landed on one already.
How are we going to beat that?
You know where we might beat it, though, Mason?
Oh, yes. That live show we're doing with Sands Pants coming up.
I don't think I will.
It's a versus usses versus themses.
I'm not good live, but I'll give my best shot.
Mason, you're going to love it.
Okay.
Look, already 50% of the tickets have been sold.
Oh.
I know.
They've been shot.
They've been shot.
Wow.
It's not working for me today.
But it's coming up.
That's pretty intense.
That's right.
I mean, you better buy some tickets
because more are going to get shot.
So it's on the 20th of February still, correct?
That's correct, yes.
And it's at the bar, which is called?
Howler in Brunswick.
Yeah, these things we both know.
Yes.
But I'd just like to include you
in the show that you're also in.
That's a nice venue.
It is.
And look, tickets are $30. Every single cent of this goes towards the bushfire appeal in australia
everything is on fire at the moment and that's cool it's not cool thank you i'm putting me in
my place no i meant it and you went no and that's good and you've seen the error of your ways okay
right i've turned j James away from evil.
That's right.
Well, I am made of poop.
What do you expect, apparently?
I don't know.
I don't know what I was thinking.
So the other thing is I was on a podcast this week.
I regret saying that you were cloned from James's poop.
I wish I'd said a different thing, but it's too late to back out now.
That's what it is.
We can retcon it later, I feel.
I think we can.
Once enough time has passed.
I've got to think of a funnier thing that you've been cloned from.
There'll be a revelation. Yeah. I was on a podcast this week with charlie
clausen and osha gunzberg they have a parenting podcast called dad pod it's very fun it's very
funny i call in i talk about my hatred for other dads i talk about milestones for kids i talk about
how the time a maternal health nurse told us that our three-month-old son was gifted and we should
get him tested so all of of these things are discussed.
Why did she think or he think that he was gifted?
Something to do with how he was responding to things and whatever.
But as I talk about in the show, I'm a teacher.
I was a teacher.
Well, the other version of me was.
The one that wasn't made of poop.
And that's like the worst thing you could say to a parent.
Oh, sure.
Because it's often not true.
And it sets their sights too high.
Yeah, exactly.
It sets their expectations for the kid too high.
Yeah.
So anyway, my son is the exception and he is gifted.
So it was good to know early on.
I mean, he's producing the show right now.
Yeah, that's right.
He's on the ones and twos over there.
Thanks, buddy.
We appreciate it.
He's got the sound effects going.
He certainly does.
Speaking of ones and twos though, Mason.
You're made out of food.
That's right.
That's one thing.
But Vin Diesel has taken to Total Film and he said, listen, Total Film, for the fans,
Fast 10, it's going to be part one and part two as a conclusion.
It will be nice for this world to continue for generations to come also.
So he's going to end game it.
Yeah, right.
But really, that's just 10 and 11, isn't it?
We're splitting hairs here.
And also, here's the thing, Vin Diesel.
Here's the thing, buddy. Here's the thing.
We know you're a big nerd, Vin Diesel. You're listening to this.
That's true. But I mean,
that tips
his hand that a 10
is going to end on a cliffhanger.
I think what is interesting is that... Perhaps literally.
It's entirely possible.
Oh, certainly literally.
That's true, yeah.
Oh my God, my Supra's hanging off the side of this cliff.
Do I have enough NOS to escape?
Yes.
Yes, I do.
There's extra, I've got this extra NOS.
That's right.
You saw it earlier.
It was on the table.
Yeah.
And my wife gave it to me as a gift.
She's like, maybe one day you'll need this extra NOS.
It was in a big red ribbon.
Terrific. You'll always be in my heart with this nos yes but i was gonna say like the the most interesting thing when i saw infinity war was the general audience crowd who's not like glued to
superhero movie news forever who learned in the moment yes infinity war was not the big finale
and thanos is going to be defeated.
And we had to wait another year for another.
Like, people were genuinely shocked.
Yeah.
Vin Diesel, don't come out here and be like,
10 and 11 are going to be there.
They're going to be parts one and two.
Well, he didn't say 10 and 11.
He said 10 will be in two parts.
10 parts one and two.
It's true.
Like a Harry Potter.
Like maybe some of the Twilights.
He's absolutely thinking like a Harry Potter, Vin Diesel.
Yeah.
He's just like a Harry Potter, isn't he?
A big nerd.
Yes.
Anyway, this is the same as him saying we're doing Eleven.
That's true, yeah.
But also, it's a cliffhanger.
That's clearly what they're going for.
Do you think 10 will end?
He's looking at Endgame and the numbers.
I feel like maybe 10 will end with the villains blasting them into space
on like a big catapult.
Oh, my God.
We think they're going to die, but then 11.
They've got enough NOS.
They've got enough NOS and it's Fast and Furious in space, finally,
the one we want.
That means we've only got two more movies for them to end up in space.
Is it what we want, though?
No.
Because they're jetting around in space is not very interesting.
But nothing's off limits for the Fast and Furious franchise.
What if they went to the moon?
The fa-fa-fa.
What if they did a moon chase like they did in Dad's Brad's Astros.
Yeah, right.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Would people be like ridiculous?
But they're still in like Nissan 370s heads or whatever.
Yeah.
They've just got the windows up.
There's no, there's no.
There's a moment where they're like, there's that, you know,
there's always like the getting ready to drive montage where it's like
gear shift, wheel spin, foot on the accelerator,
and then it's just them taking a big deep breath
and winding the window up manually.
And there's still sound in space.
Absolutely there is, yeah.
Anyway, I'm fired up for that.
Yeah, I guess.
But nine isn't even out yet.
No, nine's not even out yet.
Speaking of which, we didn't mention it last week,
but Christopher McQuarrie last week, he put up a photo on Twitter.
Yeah, right. And it said the hashtag was
MI7, MI8. And there
was a picture of Kittredge from the first
Mission Impossible movie. Did you see that?
The original boss or whatever? Yeah, the original guy, the
main guy. The guy who's on the
tape. So he wasn't the one who, he didn't die
like everybody else in that movie? No, he didn't die, no.
I don't remember. Okay, yeah.
Initially, Tom Cruise thought that he was the one stiffening him,
but it turned out it was John Voight.
It was a woman and typical of.
Yeah, but also John Voight.
Yeah, great stuff.
But anyway, Kittredge is back apparently.
That's fun.
Don't know what that means.
It's just fun.
It's not as exciting as, look,
it's not as exciting as a bunch of cars being fired out into space,
but it's still something and it's that combo you were mentioning earlier.
Alec Baldwin is dead,
maybe? Yeah, he got shot a bunch of times.
He's like, it's good to be back in the field.
That's right.
I've stepped in a puddle. I'm done for.
Now you're thinking of Bruce Willis in
Unbreakable. Oh yeah, that's true. Can't step in a puddle.
Can't even drink a glass of water. He's so
dehydrated. That's why he's so grumpy.
So, according to Variety.
Can I have a pudding?
That's right.
According to Variety,
Sam Raimi is in talks to take over
Doctor Strange 2 Multiverse of Madness.
Yes, from Scott Derrickson.
Yes.
They're apparently friends,
which makes sense.
And Scott Derrickson was like,
great choice.
I think it's a great choice too.
Now people have said he hasn't directed a movie
since Oz, The James Franco and Powerful or whatever. People don't really like that movie. I've seen it. I think it's a great choice too. Now, people have said he hasn't directed a movie since Oz, The James Franco and Powerful or whatever.
And people don't really like that movie.
I've seen it.
I think it's fine.
I think there's actually some good stuff in that movie.
I remember it being fine also.
And he's been working on Ash vs. The Evil Dead.
Like he's done some directing in that
and show running and producing on that.
So he has still been making stuff.
He did Drag Me to Hell.
That was good.
Yeah, but that was 2009 or something?
That was a million years ago.
That was a million years ago! Yeah. I thought there was much cgi in that for the kind of a sam raimi
kind of thing but i enjoyed it on the whole yeah i know that goat every now and then people send
me that clip of that goat that goes yeah goes bananas yeah came out wrong that one too well
he hasn't signed it's not definite yet but studio involvement really hurt spider-man 3 and kind of
what he wanted to make right and i
just wonder how much freedom they're going to get him give to him for this because i think why would
he do it if he's just going to do by the numbers and given that they just fired a guy who merely
suggested that he might go outside the normal bounds of a normal yes see you standard issue
movie yeah he's like this one might be a little bit more horror themed.
And they're like, cool, clear out your desk.
Get out of here.
We love you.
You're fired.
So fired.
I mean, we mutually have decided over creative differences that you're fired.
And we won't be paying you.
That's right.
No, they paid him, I think.
Because otherwise I think he wouldn't have been like, I endorse this.
I'm sure he got money for the work that he did on it.
So yeah, I think why, because you'd rather be able to Taika Waititi it than say Thor.
I know the go-to was like Thor the Dark World.
Sure.
Like that kind of thing.
The other thing is, if they're doing multiverse stuff.
Yes.
Could we expect a Sam Raimi Spider-Man situation?
Good question.
Thanks.
Isn't it though?
Yeah.
Are you the first person to ask that question?
Definitely not. Okay then. But I thought of it independently of Yeah. Are you the first person to ask that question? Definitely not.
Okay then.
But I thought of it independently of whoever thought of it first.
That's for sure.
Did you think of it first?
No.
I was going to say, well done.
You are on the ball, but you're not.
I'm not at all now.
What do you think about that?
That sounds pretty fun.
I mean, they'd have to go through Sony or whatever.
Unless they huge at it.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I mean, what is he allowed to use, I guess, of his old stuff?
Yeah.
None.
None.
I'd imagine without licensing and stuff.
Yeah, right.
And again, because he's doing a Doctor Strange film, he's not doing a...
There's nothing, I assume, in the contract that lets him use any Spider-Man stuff.
Yeah.
So, you know, can he use...
Can he bring in J.K. Simmons somehow?
Yeah.
I mean, he's in it anyway, isn't he?
Like, he's around.
Yeah.
But again, that's he's in the Sony one. he like he's around yeah but again that's he's in
the sony one you still have to pay for it yeah yeah i don't so i just think that could be
interesting to get catch a glimpse of that universe or maybe make it slowly because as we
all know in spider-man i think too it was definitely dr octopus yes they're looking for a
name for dr octopus yes dr octa otto octavius the man with the eight limbs. Yep. And for some reason, before they settle on Doctor Octopus,
they go with Doctor Strange.
But it's taken.
It's already taken.
That's right.
So there you go.
So maybe there is a Doctor Strange in that universe.
And he's played by Patrick Dempsey.
Oh, my God.
Yes.
Wouldn't he just?
Yes.
Yes.
Now that's McDreamy.
You know it is.
Or McSteamy.
One of those.
That show's still going, apparently.
But I think none of those guys are on it anymore.
That's right.
Leaving the door wide open for a McDreamy cameo in this movie.
So there you go.
Anyway, I think this is exciting, if true.
I think it's also entirely possible that he doesn't do it
for reasons mentioned.
But I think that's as good a get as you're going to get
for a movie like this.
How much, okay, let's say hypothetically they can put in
a Raimi versus Spider-Man cameo.
Yeah.
How much would satisfy you?
Like, ideally, I'd want, like, a 10-minute sequence.
Okay.
And I know that's a lot.
Yes.
But why not?
Like, if you're going to do it, that's where you do it.
That's true, yeah.
You give it to him and you put it in this movie.
You have, I mean, that would be, like, five minutes also would be good.
I nearly said five to ten.
Yeah, right.
But I guess if Doctor Strange is like,
if it's two hours of Doctor Strange tumbling through alternate realities,
I mean, we don't know what it is yet,
but imagine he's like, in each reality,
he's got to team up with people and find his way out of the reality.
And all he's got is the Sam Raimi spider.
Yeah, a gun.
And a can full of NOS.
That's right.
Oh.
Yeah.
When Wong gave this to me, I said he was crazy.
I said, that's not what I want for my birthday, Wong.
And he's like, no, you'll need this.
Yeah, he'll have a mystical amulet of some description.
No, you'll need this NOS.
You've got enough mystical amulets. That's right, you need NOS. Steven. That's right. no, you'll need this. Can I have a mystical amulet of some description? No, you'll need this. You've got enough mystical amulets.
That's right.
You need us.
That's right.
So there you go.
I think it would be interesting if he met different Doctor Strangers as well.
Patrick Dempsey.
And they just were like, who's taller?
Who's better looking?
How's the hair situation?
Yeah.
What's going on there?
Still your hands are all smushed up.
Yeah.
Okay, great.
Terrific.
Maybe he meets one who doesn't have his hands smushed up.
Oh, my God.
Yeah. He just made all the right choices. He's the one who doesn't have his hair smushed up. Oh, my God. Yeah.
He just made all the right choices.
He's the one all the other Doctor Strangers hate
because he's still a Sorcerer Supreme.
Nothing bad's happened to him.
And he's the tallest.
Yeah, and the best hair.
He's got no gray at the temple.
Oh, my God.
They all convene in like a multiversal temple of some sort.
They're like, I bet he colors his hair and i
bet he does it i can't prove it but i can't prove it but i think he does
i love it and they're like i have agamotto tell us and their eyes like i'll never tell
he's my favorite too i like him yeah that would be really interesting it's never even occurred
to me but you put you put a character like dr strange in that universe, which is a kind of more comic book-y, more caricature-y version.
Like it's got less detail.
It's more kind of more Technicolor kind of thing.
And I think you'd be like, what is this world?
Yeah.
What?
I don't like it.
How do you live in this?
What's going on?
Who can I kill?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cool.
I think that's great news.
Also, Rachel McAdams is apparently not going to be back
because she's a love interest in these movies, and they really are.
They're rarely back.
It's true, yeah.
Every now and then they'll get back a Gwyneth.
But Liv Tyler, not back.
That's true.
Jane Foster was gone for the longest time.
She could pop back.
She Billy Joel'd it.
She Billy Joel'd it.
That's right.
It's a good song.
I agree.
It is a good song.
It's all him.
It's all him, isn't it?
I know, right?
God, it's a good song. It's a good song. It's a good song. Good song. I is a good song. It's all him, isn't it? I know, right? God, it's a good song.
It's a good song.
It's a good song.
Good song.
I'm glad no one's ever done a terrible cover.
I bet they have, actually.
I bet like five seconds of summer have done it or something.
I bet it's good, too.
I bet it's good.
Yeah, it's a good song.
So it's easy enough to make a good one.
Did you see the trailer for Spiral?
Spiral for trailer.
I should say, I don't know really who five seconds of summer are.
Yeah.
Maybe they're not a boy band. I bet they are. Okay. Anyway, I did see the trailer for Spiral. Oh, look at. I should say, I don't know really who Five Seconds of Summer are. Yeah. Maybe they're not a boy band.
I bet they are.
Okay.
Anyway, I did see the trailer for Spiral.
Oh, look at it while you're talking.
Okay.
I saw the trailer for Spiral.
I didn't really understand it.
Yeah.
It's just a Saw sequel?
Yeah.
It's Saw 9.
Or a reboot?
I had to look it up.
Okay.
It's also Five Seconds of Summer is abbreviated to SOS.
Five SOS.
Five SOS.
SOS.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
And they've got many members and they're from Dublin maybe.
And some of them aren't from Dublin.
Oh, my goodness.
Actually, these are just events that they're playing.
Okay.
They're Australian.
There you go.
Good on them.
Yeah, I'm really excited for this.
Oh, my God.
They just look like whatever the – what's the boy band?
What's the boy band?
NSYNC.
No, the newer one that people like.
Niles in it.
Oh, One Direction
yeah they're just that
okay yeah
cool
could you indulge me
and type in
5SOS
the name that we know
the longest time
what's that again
and when I say
indulge me
I mean waste the
listeners time
no
ah you sons of bitches
sorry
anyway Spiral
Chris Rock's in this
and he's producing this.
He's all behind it.
Yeah, so I was like, is this a reboot?
What is this?
It's just the ninth film.
But I think they've obviously separated it enough from the other films.
I was like, so great.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, you're ready for this.
And so I think it's probably a good idea because they were kind of declining in money at least.
Right, okay.
And presumably quality.
I saw the most recent one.
It was all right. But what was happening in it? Well. I saw the most recent one. Was it all right?
But what was happening?
Well, I don't know,
because I only saw...
Because you're like,
which cop is...
I've seen the first Saw
and then I saw Saw reboot,
like the last one.
So I don't know what happened
in the meantime.
Yeah, me neither.
So, but I know some cops
are now the Saw man or whatever.
Yeah.
And look, I know Becca's assistant
went mad.
Yes.
And became a Saw killer.
That's right.
I know that.
I know that much Good show maybe
Grumpy doctor
You know what I mean
I mean he was a good man
But he just
Just had enough of people
He just had to get past
That grizzly
Exactly
What's he going to do
Not help
You know
The sick and downtrodden
I watched a lot of Becca
Me too
I've seen way more Becca
Than I've seen of Cheers
And who knew
That the assistant
Was keeping all those bodies In the basement, you know?
Becker knew.
Becker knew.
He kept quiet about it.
Yeah.
Because he's a good man.
He's a good man.
So, I don't know.
I'm honestly excited to look at some Saw stuff for Caravan Garbage.
Probably the first one.
Didn't we play a game?
We did.
Oh, just like in Saw.
Just like in Saw.
I liked that game.
Me too.
It did some okay stuff.
Yeah. From what we saw. So, Saw. Just like in Saw. I liked that game. Me too. It did some okay stuff from what we saw.
So Saw.
So why is it?
So I guess the question is.
Because the Tobin Valley is definitively dead.
They maybe even peeled his face off.
It's in one of the posters.
Okay.
I'm not the guy.
I'm not the Saw guy.
That doesn't mean he's not dead.
No, he had very bad cancer.
But he had very bad cancer.
Yeah, for like 20 years he had that. Look, you know what? I wouldn't be surprised if they brought him back. Or he had very bad cancer. But he had very bad cancer. Yeah, for like 20 years he had that.
Look, you know what?
I wouldn't be surprised if they brought him back.
Or he had a twin brother.
Yes.
Yeah.
See, that's the thing.
It's interesting whenever a horror franchise sort of tips over into,
you know what, you thought he was a regular serial killer but magic.
Yes.
Or it's a clone.
Yeah, I don't think.
Maybe it's Toob and Bell.
Toob and Bell?
Toob and Bell. I don't think you want to. Magic it up? Magic it up. Yeah, I don't think. Maybe it's Toob and Bell. Toob and Bell? Toob and Bell.
I don't think you want to.
Magic it up?
Magic it up.
Yeah, you're right.
I don't think it's that kind of thing.
Okay, yeah.
But he also was in Jigsaw, which was the last.
That's the one I'm thinking of, yeah.
Great.
So the spiral on the Jigsaw puppet, he's got spirals on his face, right?
Seems that way.
There we go.
That's the connection.
Yep.
Do you think the puppets come alive?
No.
I didn't think so either.
This is like a human.
That was a test. That was a test. Oh. Yeah. Did this test i don't we're not really fussed about yeah oh my
god this is the best day of my life uh this rumor is from the illuminerdi i just want to point that
out because this uh site also said that george lucas is back for cassie and andor to produce
and do some stuff but apparently that's not true at all. Okay, sure. So anyway.
Grain of salt.
Here we go.
Grain of salt.
But you never know.
Sometimes strike rates are whatever.
Also, maybe George Lucas has gotten really bored.
Yeah.
But apparently he hasn't and he's not back.
All right.
So he worked in Hollywood for a really long time.
My God, has he ever. So apparently they're looking for an actor for Kraven the Hunter.
Okay.
Russian in origin with superhuman strength, speed, stamina, agility, and reflexes.
Presumably, the actor needs all of those things.
That's right.
Needs to bring own vest made out of a lion.
That's right.
That shoots lasers out of its eyes.
It seems like the casting call for this is a solo movie,
and it's about a maniacal big game hunter seeks to defeat Spider-Man
to prove that he's the greatest hunter in the world.
Again, solo movie.
But I don't know whether that's...
Is that like an interesting solo movie for like just focusing on Kraven and then there's four minutes of Spider-Man?
Sure, right?
He's training up to fight Spider-Man who is not in this movie.
Who's not in this movie.
I mean, maybe he is though.
Maybe.
Well, that's the thing.
But it's a solo movie.
Yeah, exactly.
So, I don't know.
Again, two rumors this week. one of which is potentially not true.
But I think they're definitely looking for Craven.
With this rumour or not.
Yeah, for sure.
I think we're going to see him sooner rather than later.
Because there's been talk about him for years.
Yes.
Fans want him and whatever.
What about Ron Swanson?
What's his name?
Nick Offerman.
That's a good choice.
He can do a powerful moustache. And he's a man on a funny TV show. He's name? Nick Offerman. That's a good choice. He can do a powerful mustache.
And he's a man on a funny TV show.
He's on a funny TV show.
It's perfect.
So he must get ripped.
Yeah.
That's the rule now.
If you're on a TV show for more than a couple of seasons,
you've got to get ripped.
You've got to get ripped.
And people are like, this is cool but also pretty weird.
Yeah.
You know?
I think we talked about this before,
but I think Justin Theroux would be a good choice
because he's so cool and ripped also.
And I said Louis Theroux.
Yeah.
Theroux.
Cool and ripped also.
That's right.
Cool and gangly.
He's in a different dimension.
Yeah.
So don't even worry about it.
Spider-Man.
Just wondering.
Hudger for sport.
He'd get all the answers out of him as well.
That's true, he would, yeah.
You don't even see that guy covered.
Okay. so the twist
I was going to say well the twist in the Morbius trailer
obviously was
and spoilers for the Morbius trailer if you don't want to
that doesn't matter anyway at the end
you know there's a little bit of a sting
that it's set in the
Spider-Man universe
it would be but it's you know
there's a definitive link to Spider-Man Homecoming.
Yes.
So is this another one?
Are they going to...
It would be kind of cool if they were like,
this is a standalone movie about a crazy hunter man.
Yeah.
And then you sneak Spider-Man into it.
Yes.
But they couldn't.
Or they could, or they wouldn't.
I feel like they would.
I feel like they would and they can and they probably will.
Yeah, because they have to,
because otherwise people might be like, this looks boring and I'm not going to see it. Well, apparently... Or I but they would. I feel like they would and they can and they probably will. Yeah, because they have to because otherwise people might be like,
this looks boring and I'm not going to see it.
Well, I'm not interested in this.
But if you go, look, he's also hunting Spider-Man for most of the movie.
Yeah.
If it's a bunch of action sequences where he's trying to kill Spider-Man,
that would be an incredible surprise.
Yes.
But if you make that, if you build it in as a surprise
and you don't tell people, nobody's going to see it so you have to spoil first weekend at least anyway yeah but you
need that you need that kind of momentum from the first opening weekend often not always yeah also
did you see they're filming venom 2 at the moment uh and there's a there's like a post as beware
it was like where is spider-man or spider-man's gone missing presumably he's on the run because
everyone knows he's spider-man so i guess they haven't reversed it, at least in Venom 2.
Right.
Doctor Strange reverses it.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.
He just brings in Tobey Maguire and goes,
this is actually Spider-Man, and they shoot him.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
Tobey Maguire, Spider-Man's like, finally.
Oh, my God.
Sweet relief.
Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew.
Pew, pew, pew.
I'm the saddest superhero
You've all seen me
You see me cry through my mask
I'll give you a minute to reload
And keep shooting
We've got some release dates here
Yes
You interested in the Falcon and Winter Soldier release dates?
No
Just kidding I am
August
Oh good
August
WandaVision
December
Okay
Mandalorian Season 2
October
There we go
Three Disney Plus stuff happening at least this year.
They are absolutely banking on people not cancelling their Disney Plus subscriptions.
I don't think it...
For six months.
Well, if you cancelled it...
Yeah.
I'm on my family thing.
We've all got...
Yeah, right.
But I'd come back for this anyway.
Yeah, no, for sure.
So, you know.
I think once they start, they're not really going to stop.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Once the first one kicks off.
And also, I say that, but I haven't cancelled Disney Plus yet.
I never.
Did you do the year long thing?
No, I did not.
A month a month.
So you thought you'd save money.
Well, I could if I cancelled it.
That's what I'm saying.
But you haven't, have you, Mason?
But I haven't.
That's how they get us.
Yes.
You didn't get me.
Got my dumb brother or parents, whoever did it.
We all share all the accounts.
Wow.
I'm telling on you to Disney.
Good.
I want them to come here.
I'll punch every one of them.
Put them in a line.
Don't even put them in a line.
We'll do a pile on.
You'll punch the mouse?
Yes, I'll punch the mouse.
I'll punch your dad, Bob Iger.
I don't even give a shit, mate.
Wow.
Yeah.
Will you punch?
Do I have to fight all the actors that are ripped?
They're probably so dehydrated, I bet I could.
No, they probably wouldn't make the trip.
They're just sending animated characters.
Okay.
Would you punch Goofy?
Dog, I don't know if he would.
But he's also a humanoid dog.
No, which is the-
Pluto is the regular dog.
I wouldn't punch Pluto, but I'd punch Goofy.
Would you punch Minnie Mouse?
No.
Would you punch Huey, Dewey, or Louie?
Yes.
I'd line them up and I'd punch them.
Crackle their heads together? Crackle their heads together, that's right. Wow. Not a Yes. I'd line them up and I'd punch them. Crack all their heads together?
Crack all their heads together.
That's right.
Wow.
Not a problem.
I'd punch a duck.
I don't give a shit.
So you'd punch Launchpad McQuack?
Yeah, he's got a...
I don't know if I could actually take out Launchpad McQuack.
He's pretty big, right?
But he's also kind of a goof.
I reckon I could trick him.
But is he big for a duck?
Or is he like a man-sized duck?
Because if that door opened, like if that door swung open and a man-sized launch pad McQuack came in
who's as wide as he is tall, I'd be terrified.
Yeah, but he could also be that 1950s kind of fit.
Yeah.
Just a barrel-chested man who's not really, you know, duck man.
Plus he's very top-heavy, so I guess if he kicked his legs out, he'd just fall over.
Yeah.
Also, none of these dudes can fly.
So, you know.
That's true.
Would you punch Scrooge McDuck?
Fuck yes.
That's what I figured. He'd be the first one I'd punch. Right? you know. That's true. Would you punch Scrooge McDuck? Fuck yes.
He'd be the first one I'd punch.
Right?
Straight up.
And he's got that take his stick.
I'd take his stick.
Wallop people with a stick.
We'll come back to this.
I'm just going to think of- I'd punch Masupalami.
I don't care.
I don't know what that is.
It's like he's got a long tail.
I'd punch Darkwing Duck.
He'd beat me though.
Yeah, maybe.
He's got a grappling gun.
Would you punch that weird black and white guy that was the precursor to Mickey Mouse,
whatever his name, like Walter the Rabbit or whatever he's called?
Yes, I would.
Wow.
Wow.
He'd be like, what did I do?
And I'm like, you know what you did.
You started this.
Would you punch Mickey Mouse?
I know I've said that, but would you punch Mickey Mouse in character as Steamboat Willie?
And he's controlling that steamboat.
And if you punch him, that steamboat is going to go over like a waterfall or something.
Everybody's going to die. On that steamboat? Yeah. Or cartoons. that steamboat is going to go over like a waterfall or something everybody's going to die on that steamboat yeah cartoons i don't care wow whatever wow whatever
mason wow punch roger rabbit who's that who's he with i don't even know i don't know i think
that's independent punch him too but he wow he he bridged barriers there he where's he been
good question yeah yeah he comes back now for a fight? Yeah. Get out of here.
That's a good point.
Yeah.
Anyway, this is our new segment.
Which Disney characters were no fun?
James Pudge.
Yeah.
They're cartoons, right?
Yeah.
Or are they to real life?
They're not costumes is what I'm saying, obviously.
Or they're not like CGI representations of the way that Scooby-Doo in the movies is.
They're Roger Rabbit style.
They're actual cartoons.
Yeah, cool.
No problem.
Easy.
Easy down.
Yep.
It was a BBC interview this week, Mason, with Kathleen Kennedy.
Would you punch Lady or the Tramp?
No.
Neither.
Interesting.
Neither.
Interesting.
They just didn't love.
They just let them.
Leave them alone.
One's a tramp.
One's a lady.
That's true.
Unless.
You'll eat your words when they're garroting you with that piece of spaghetti.
They'd be too busy eating it.
I guess that's probably true, yeah.
Can they do it together?
Yeah, they do it together.
Just slice my head off of it.
That would be my downfall, you're right.
Yeah.
So Kathleen Kennedy said, this is about Indiana Jones 5.
We're working away, getting the script where we want it to be,
and then we'll be ready to go.
Harrison Ford will be involved.
It's not a reboot.
It's a continuation.
What do you think?
Pretty good.
Yeah.
Pretty good.
What do you want to see from this, though?
I honestly, I want short round.
I want grown-up short round.
Me too.
And he's been, maybe he's been doing his own archaeology stuff somewhere else
and he's like, man, I could really use your help, Indiana Jones.
And Indiana Jones is like, who are you? And he's like, short round, you know, your help, Indiana Jones. And Indiana Jones is like, who are you?
And he's like Short Round, you know, from the early 30s.
Do you remember that?
You remember?
It's more mid-30s.
But yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
Short Round would have to be at least 50.
So you could just age him down a little bit.
You could get Han, the actor who plays Han.
That's true.
From, you You know those movies
Fast and Furious movies
That would be a good choice
John Cho
I think would be a good short round
Henry Golding
Henry Golding
Yes
I mean he's busy now
Because he's got to be Snake Eyes
Yeah exactly
I think he's not the right size
I don't think short round
Would grow into that man
Henry Golding
Yeah
Is Henry Golding big?
Yeah
Is he tall?
Seems big
Okay
Maybe he isn't
Doesn't matter People grow at different rates Don't they? That's true Yeah Well they could do it Lord of the Rings style Henry Golding? Yeah. Is Henry Golding big? Yeah. Is he tall? Seems big. Okay. Maybe he isn't.
Doesn't matter.
People grow at different rates, don't they? That's true.
Yeah.
Well, they could do it Lord of the Rings style with a weird forced perspective.
Oh, my God.
They could build all sorts of.
Yeah.
They could just have it.
So he's slightly shorter.
Yes.
That's right.
Yep.
Just have him stand in a ditch the whole time.
Yeah.
I think they should continue it with Short Round.
Yeah.
Just keep it.
If you just nail't if you just
nail that casting because that's in continuity yes like it's not like well we're bringing in
and you're not gonna be like well it's diversity gone mad exactly whatever yeah or you will still
get that well absolutely 100 get that they'll be like why can't we just have a they make it the
nazis make a clone of indiana jones yeah and it's still indiana jones again but it's sprightly
i think we're gonna get some young indiana jonesly. I think we're going to get some young Indiana Jones in this.
I think we did a video on it, or we've talked about it,
but I think ideally you'd want, you go 70% modern day,
30% in the past with de-aged.
I think just to see young Indiana Jones in his prime.
Yeah.
And people also out there are like, oh my,
people are going to get mad that he's not going to be,
because they've said he's going to be involved in some capacity,
which means ultimately that he's going to,
it's going to be a cameo or a smaller, like a reduced role,
and then maybe he's going to die.
And people are going to be mad.
I don't think he's going to die.
Well, he may not die, but he's going to be out of the picture,
and people are going to be super upset,
to which I say Harrison Ford doesn't want to make movies anymore.
Apparently he loves these, though.
But also, he's coming on 80.
So it gets to a point where it's like the Death Wish movies
or the Die Hard movies where it's like, what are we even doing?
So you either kill it or you continue it in a different way.
It's the same with Ghostbusters.
It either has to change a bit or it has to end.
No!
I refuse to allow it to change a bit or end. All right, good. You're right. Change a bit or it has to end. No. No. I refuse to allow it to change a bit or end.
All right, good.
So, yeah, you're right.
Change a bit or end.
So, anyway, I'm not surprised.
It's still happening.
Yeah.
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It's coming up hot, Mason.
All right. Birds of Prey
and the fab, tabulous emancipation
of Harlequin
do you want to talk
box office
yes
not great Mason
I've heard
yeah
in the US
my personal
observation
tell us your personal
observation
I went to the movie cinema
yeah
and I purchased a ticket
for the movie
at the movie cinema
online or when you got there
online
yeah me too
a little bit of a discount
you get
I like to choose
where I'm sitting
you get to choose your seats
and it was the
and this was like
quite early in the day and it's the biggest cinema they had,
the biggest one.
And there were not a lot of tickets sold, and then I bought it,
and I'm like, well, this will fill up because it's Saturday night.
It didn't.
There were like 10 people in there.
That's crazy.
It's like 9.30.
Maybe the 8 o'clock was...
Yeah, but generally that's not a good sign.
We'll talk about why this may be, but it's had a $34 million
weekend, which is down from the forecast
at $55 million. That's a drop.
That big time. I mean, those things,
it's all guessing as well. Yes, exactly.
I was thinking about that this week.
Where does that number come
from? Is it a formula?
Is it one guy
just guessing? Is there one
guy and he's like, is there a guy out there and his name's like kinda accurate Joe?
And they're just like, kinda accurate Joe, what do you think?
And they're like, somewhere between $750 million and $1.2 billion.
That's what this movie's going to make in its total run.
And then they're like...
It's something to do with pre-sales.
Okay, right.
But Dan Merle, who is over at Screen Junkies,
but is now Phantom Entertainment,
he's done a breakdown of how that kind of works.
And basically his conclusion
is it's wildly inaccurate
so whenever they're like
this did better than expected
it's like
we didn't know
what it was going to do
otherwise we would have guessed it
sure yeah
you know
if we knew
this was going to do
as poorly as it did
we wouldn't have made it
that's right
so internationally
it made 18 million dollars
cost 80 million dollars
plus Hollywood numbers
so let's say roughly,
150,
160 million dollars.
It seemed to have a pretty big marketing push.
But,
what do you think the story was?
We'll do that.
We'll do that.
Alright,
so,
it's Harley Quinn.
Yep.
We all know her and love her
from that movie Suicide Squad.
Yes.
You remember that one?
Of course I do,
mate.
Anyway,
she's back.
Sad times for her
because she breaks up with the Joker and she's living life as a free andicide Squad. Yes. You remember that one? Of course I do, mate. Anyway, she's back. Sad times for her because she breaks up with the Joker.
Then she's living life as a free and single gal.
Yeah.
But also everyone wants to kill her because they can now because she's awful.
Yeah.
And people are like, well, you're not hanging with the Joker anymore.
Yeah.
Let's all kill you.
We're awful, but you're awful.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's essentially it.
Yes.
Well done on thinking what the story was.
Thank you.
But I think.
Hijinks into you.
There is a thing of like it got woke and got broken,
whatever, et cetera.
I'm sure that's probably like a minor percentage of this.
I don't want to rule out that crowd.
You're very powerful and very masculine.
It's true.
But I don't think this is a particularly woke film.
I don't think the messaging in it is particularly like men.
Like they beat up men.
Men beat up other men in movies all the time.
Well, I was going gonna say we discussed this
earlier in the week like every movie is just men being beaten up because that's thugs in movies
are men and so they get beaten up and they're whatever so sometimes it's men doing the beating
up and sometimes it's the women doing the beating up this isn't like you know this isn't like each
punch is a punch against the patriarchy yeah it's like each punch is so my character doesn't get
killed personally.
Yeah, exactly.
And there is that kind of crawling out from under the shadow of the Joker
and all that kind of thing, which I guess could be interpreted that way.
Sure.
But also, like, wouldn't you want, I don't think that's,
it's not saying anything.
The Joker's terrible.
Right, uh-huh.
I mean, it is saying, you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, I know what you're saying.
But I think, though, I think it's been marketed really weirdly and poorly.
Okay.
They should have called this, like, Harley Quinn and fucking adventures or whatever.
Because calling it Birds of Prey, it's confusing.
Yes.
And they're not really in it.
So, oh, they are more in the back end.
But I think if you frame this as a Harley Quinn movie.
Yes.
And the Birds of Prey or whatever.
Yeah, right.
I think that would have, I think it would have done better.
Also, maybe it's Suicide Squad. People didn't really like or whatever. Yeah, right. I think that would have, I think it would have done better. Also, maybe it's Suicide Squad.
People didn't really like that either.
Yeah, right.
And I guess, you know, the title is quite, it's whimsical in its own way,
but that maybe you're right.
Maybe that's hamstrung because Harley Quinn is right at the bottom there.
Do people know who the Birds of Prey are?
I don't think so.
Like outside of comics?
Except for huge fans of our video about the TV series Birds of Prey.
Oh, my God.
And that's everybody in the internet.
People are not defending that show.
I mean, they'll come.
They always do.
But generally there's some pushback.
But for this, it's like, no.
I think we're going to get people who never saw it,
but then they saw Ashley Scott's cameo in the recent Crisis on Infinite Earths,
and they're going to go back and watch the back catalogue of Birds of Prey,
decide it's their favourite TV show, then come at us.
Great.
To which I say, bring it on.
Yeah.
We've beaten up all the Disney characters.
We'll beat you up too.
I've beaten them up.
You've watched.
You filmed it on your phone.
Yeah, I did.
It's true.
Vertically though.
No, it's not worth it.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
I was just too excited.
I was excited to see you beat up Daisy Duck, all right?
I wouldn't beat up Daisy Duck.
Well, I was still excited.
I'm like, go on.
Do it.
So, yeah, I think there's a number of factors.
Well, maybe this isn't as popular a character as they think it is.
Right.
But I think also you could have made it.
But nobody's cosplaying as Deadshot, are they?
Well, that's another thing, isn't it?
But I think if you. Sorry, everyone. But nobody's cosplaying as Deadshot, are they? Well, that's another thing, isn't it?
But I think if you.
Sorry, everyone who cosplays as Deadshot. Well done.
But I think it's.
But I'm not sorry to people who cosplay as the version of Deadshot
where he's like the cowboy guy and he's got the two revolvers
and a cowboy hat.
Get out of here.
Get out of here.
We don't want that.
It's too old school.
What is it even?
Yeah, right?
What is it even?
But I think, yeah, this would have been a good way to introduce
the Birds of Prey and then have them have an actual solo movie.
Solo, there's three of them or whatever, or four of them.
So I think this is just kind of weirdly kind of put out into the world.
Okay, right.
Because I feel like it's not necessarily,
was there something missing in the trailers?
They're not, like, I thought they were a better indication of what this
movie is than, say, Suicide Squad.
Right. But maybe, like, there
wasn't, like, huge buzz for it. And looking at the numbers
of the stuff that I did on my channel for it,
you can kind of get an indication of interest
by, like, and they did
okay. That's how they're determining
the success of movies.
YouTube trailer. Mostly accurate, Joe.
He's just looking at your YouTube videos.
You should look at other things.
He should look at mine.
The numbers vary wildly.
Okay.
Yeah.
Anyway,
I thought it was good-ish.
I thought it was pretty good.
I enjoyed it way more than I thought I would.
And I think it's more,
it's not that I went in with low expectations because of Suicide Squad.
I was just like,
I liked it much more than Suicide Squad.
Yeah.
It's not like I went, well,
Suicide Squad was bad, this
has to be slightly better or whatever.
Or like, Suicide Squad was bad
and this one will also be bad. Oh, I'm pleasantly
surprised. I thought this would be better
but maybe I wasn't particularly invested
in the versions of the characters that I thought
we were going to get. Okay, sure, yeah. Like, I'm like, I don't know
if I like this version of Huntress or Renee Montoya
or Black Canary or what have you,
but I went in and I did.
I liked them all.
Yeah, me too.
I thought they were great actually.
I thought they were all good, exactly.
Yeah, I thought they were all cast very well.
I thought they were convincing in their action sequences,
which we'll talk to.
What I didn't think was really necessary was the kind
of broken narrative, the way they went, hang on, wind it back.
Okay, right.
And then they did like 15 minutes of backstory
on whatever i think it didn't it wasn't intriguing enough to be like you could have just had this go
through it a regular right so this was a little bit this was a little bit deadpool s yes the first
in more ways than one yes right this so in the first deadpool you know it's a it's a long action
sequence on a on a highway yeah interspersed with the origin of Deadpool kind of thing. And this was less of that.
Yes.
It was kind of more, a little bit more disjointed.
It was kind of like, we run a little bit forwards, and then here's five minutes ago, and then
we're back to current time.
Yeah.
And here's last week, and here's...
I never thought any of the revelations were like, yeah, you needed to do it this way.
Oh, that's Huntress' backstory?
Okay.
Right.
Again, I liked the characters, and I liked what they did with them,
but I think it just kind of broke the flow a bit, for me at least. Okay.
I quite liked it.
I wonder if you'd watch it completely in order,
if it would be less interesting.
I don't know.
I think it's one of those ones where I'm like,
if this comes up on Netflix at some point, I'll put it on.
I'm not in a rush to go back and see it, if I'm like, if this comes up on Netflix at some point, I'll put it on. I'm not in a rush to go back and see it, if I'm honest.
Yeah, but I thought there's a little bit kind of nod and wink to the camera,
like kind of Deadpool, not to that extent.
They were clearly going for that kind of interpretation of the character,
which I think worked for the most part.
She's really good, Margot Robbie, in this.
And also physically, the stuff that she can do in this,
and it's clearly her, a lot of effort has gone into the action Robbie in this. Yeah. And also like physically the stuff that she can do in this and it's clearly her.
A lot of effort has gone into the action sequences in this.
Yes.
That shootout in the cop station.
Yep.
That's probably the best thing DC's done in terms of action.
I saw a tweet before going into this and somebody said,
these are the best action sequences I've ever seen in a comic book movie.
And I probably disagree with that.
Yeah.
But they're all really good.
And I think it's because Margot Robbie is also producing this.
Yes.
And so she gets more of a say in what the various characters do
and everybody gets sort of a moment to shine.
I felt the sequence at the end where they're all kind of battling together
was a little bit stagey because it was kind of one shot.
Yeah.
But even then, like, it didn't take me out of it. kind of battling together was a little bit stagey because it was kind of one shot yeah uh-huh but
it's even then like it wasn't like didn't take me out of it but the everything pretty much prior to
that i was like this is and the way it's well thought out because you remember with suicide
squad yeah and i remember you had a problem with this and you were right i'm probably i was just
about to say what you're going to say but basically that none of their skills translated into the
things that they did in any meaningful way.
Deadshot's big moment.
You had a problem with him in that, which was standing on a car.
He was just standing on a car shooting.
Anybody could have done that.
Like he did one trick shot.
And in the Suicide Squad, Harley Quinn is on the team because she has special skills.
She is allegedly one of the best of the best.
But we never really see that.
She swings a bat.
She jumps on somebody's shoulders or whatever.
They're all brawlers.
Right, but in this one, at the very least, we go,
okay, I get why they got her on the squad
because she can do things that an ordinary soldier couldn't.
There's all sorts of backflips
and she can fling a baseball bat at somebody
and crack them on the head and then catch it on the way back
and then hit somebody else with it.
It's really well put together in that way.
And I'm like, oh, I get like why you would put her on a special forces team
and I get why you would be afraid of her if you saw her on the other side of.
So you think it validates their choices in Suicide Squad,
makes it a better movie in your eyes?
Yes, I do.
Because I'm also one of those people that doesn't hate Suicide Squad.
I think it's fine.
Right.
Like I'm not against it.
For me, again, and I probably said this in the podcast,
for me it's right in the middle.
Yeah.
Because it's got some interesting weird mythos stuff to add.
It's filled with magic and gods and crazy stuff,
but it's also otherwise really boring.
And I don't understand.
Boogily-eyed villains.
I don't understand how they they straddled that line
so amazingly
but I'm like
it's a movie with
cursed katanas
and weird bog witches
but you never see
the cursed katana
do anything
right exactly yeah
so weird
but this one
I think
in this you go
okay I get
yeah
you know
maybe
yeah whatever
whatever
you know
the toxic ways
that turned into a Harleyinn also gave her some
sort of superhuman something changed her voice at the very least changed her voice at least maybe
maybe made her a little more more bendy i don't know better at roller derby that's i know that
much seems the case yeah so yeah i mean just watching that sequence in the police station
it just felt so exact yeah even the way that she's got that gas canister kind of weapon,
whatever it is, and it's shooting.
James, it's the classic M79 grenade launcher.
From Terminator 2.
Yeah, I was going to say, is it the Terminator 2 one?
Yes.
And it shoots like confetti bombs and non-lethal beanbags.
And she's got seven or whatever it is and she shoots seven cops yeah right you know what
i mean so they thought about right how are we going to make use of this how many we're going
to give her yeah this one does smoke this one does confetti and it's just so precise yeah it's like
john wick-esque in terms of the level of detail and i feel like in that sequence as well
she's not she's not doing it at random.
She's like, okay, I need smoke for this and I need glitter for this
and I need a beanbag for this.
And she knows where they all are.
She's like, you know, again, she's –
the reason she's on the Joker's team is she is a genius on some level
kind of thing.
I'm trying to think if there is a better sequence,
a fight sequence in a DC movie.
I don't know if there is.
I mean, there's been good action sequences.
Yeah, I don't disagree with that.
Yeah, like there's some stuff in Man of Steel that I quite like.
I think the Wonder Woman trench run is good,
but it's not a hand-to-hand fist fight thing,
and it's not as much fun, I don't think.
Yeah, okay.
I disagree with that.
But yeah, there's some really solid fight scenes.
There's a scene where Black Canary fights some kidnappers in an alley.
Oh, yeah, that is good.
That is a good one.
There's a very brief shot of that in one of the trailers
where she kicks a van door into somebody's head.
Yes, that is good.
And their head goes through the window.
You know what else might have hurt the box office for this?
It's R-rated.
Oh, is it?
Yeah.
But I don't think...
You take out bits and pieces in this, I don't think you take out bits and pieces
in this, I don't think you'd really change it that much.
You take out some of the effin' and jeffin'.
I tell you what. Effin' and jeffin', you don't see them
hold the face up when they cut faces
off in this or whatever they do. So in this
The Villain's Black
Mask, Roman Sionis,
the crime boss, and his
We'll do major spoilers later.
And his second in command is Mr. Zaz
in the comics
you know
psychopathic serial killer
and this he's
he's still a psychopathic killer
but he's kind of like a
like an enforcer
and his thing is
to cut people's faces off
he's not quite there
in the comic book
like in the comic book way
he doesn't have those many scars
and that
it's clearly earlier days
but I thought those guys
were great
like a really good pair
I thought Ewan McGregor
in particular
was really fun and campy and dangerous.
And there's the moment where he's doing the tour of his room
and there's the shrunken heads and he's like, ew.
He's just like, that was just in my room, ew.
I thought he was really good.
He's having a lot of fun.
I feel like people are having fun in this movie in a way that maybe they haven't in other.
Sure.
I feel like you can, and maybe I'm 100% wrong.
I think Wonder Woman and Shazam are definitely funner.
Yeah, right.
But I also wonder if the Jared Leto Joker was not as poorly received
and if they hadn't, the plans for another,
like the Todd Phillips Joker were not already,
the wheels weren't already in motion that that wouldn't black mask.
Wouldn't have just been the Joker again.
Yeah.
Because it would be as opposed to Harley Quinn breaks up with the Joker and
then everybody's trying to kill her.
Harley Quinn breaks up with the Joker and then the Joker sends people to kill
her.
Like,
I feel like,
like even,
you know,
Matt,
cause he's,
he's less insane in the comic books.
He's less flamboyantly insane.
He's more mobster.
Yeah, I feel like maybe they went, okay.
And he even dresses kind of the same.
Yeah.
So I feel like maybe because they had a Todd Phillips Joker on the way,
they went, okay, we can't put the Joker in this again.
Yeah.
So we'll just add a different villain.
Yeah.
Who's mostly the same.
You know, I think it was missing, though, in terms of villains.
I think he could have done a whole lot of minor Batman villains in this.
Yes.
Just chuck in the Penguin and whatever else.
I mean, but like what universe is this even?
Because it's the Ben Affleck Batman world.
Yeah, I wonder what authorization they got to free reign to.
And we don't really know what the Batman is.
Like, is that entirely separate? The new one. Yeah, I think, yeah. Yeah, yeah, right. Which we don't really know what the Batman is. Like, is that entirely separate?
The new one, the Batman's the one.
Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
Which we don't really know at this point.
Yeah, throw in just some, you know, lame ones like, you know,
Kite Man or whatever.
Yeah, exactly.
Imagine that.
You're in the club and it's Oswald Cobblepot in the background
and whatever, you know what I mean?
I think that's fun, yeah.
But I would have liked to, and again, it's, you know,
some of these action sequences, you know,
it is Harley Quinn and the Birds of Prey versus mostly just thugs.
Yeah.
And I think it would have been fun to have them fight a bunch of lame,
costumed villains, you know,
and their powers are like throwing colored balls and one of them's got a
flamethrower maybe.
Egghead.
Egghead.
Louis the Lilac.
Yeah.
Should we do spoilers?
Yes, let's do spoilers.
I thought it was good.
I liked it.
I think this for me is like Wonder Woman Shazam.
It's in that kind of...
I liked it better than Aquaman.
Yeah.
Which is just...
It's just a lot Aquaman.
It really is, isn't it?
It's fucking loud.
I tried to re-watch it recently
and I don't think I got all the way through.
I think maybe I skimmed some of it.
There's some fun bits in it.
Yeah, but there is a lot of movie.
And I guess this felt way more ground level, obviously,
and just, I don't know, just more fun, I reckon.
But I would say best movie ever.
I feel like maybe, again, one of the reasons that this isn't doing well
is because people are burned out on...
At this point, it's 50 50 is whether
one of these movies is going to be good or okay or bad because shazam didn't do super well yeah
it did slightly better than this it did do better than this in the opening weekend but that was also
that wasn't our rated yeah as well so yeah that's probably what is it rated here m probably probably
yeah i don't know i don't we don't i don't look i don't look either we're growing we're growing
bad we're gonna see any movie.
Yeah.
Oh, it's rated X for extreme porno.
I'm still going in because I'm over the age.
I'm a creep.
I'm a creep.
And I'm over 18.
I do what I want.
This is where I get my pornos.
I'm one of those guys.
That's right.
Good lord.
Anyway, best movie ever.
I'm a little disappointed it's not doing as well.
Yeah.
But maybe there'll be a groundswell, maybe second week.
It's entirely possible because it's competition next week
or this week is like Sonic and some other stuff,
which apparently might not be terrible.
I've heard all right things.
Yeah, but then we get The Invisible Man the week after
and if anything's going to cut into it.
Yeah.
I mean, it could just drop off regardless,
but The Invisible Man I, would cut into this a lot
when that comes out, if it's not already kind of
fallen off the map already.
I thought there were some...
We're doing spoilers now.
Yeah, spoilers.
There were two dumb things that I thought, that's dumb.
I can't remember one.
I'm like, I should write that down.
Is one of them that her friend who owns the Chinese restaurant
sells her out and she doesn't do anything?
No, I thought that was fine. Oh, yeah, okay. Like, not kill him. It's just business. I think she was just broken anything? No, I thought that was fine.
Oh yeah, okay.
Like not kill him.
It's just business.
I think she was just broken hearted.
Yeah, I guess that's probably true.
I thought the bit at the end
where they
Yeah, she seemed exhausted.
You know, that's what it was.
She's like,
oh, another thing.
You as well.
When after they go to
Amusement Mile
and they beat up everybody inside.
I love Amusement Mile.
Yeah, me too.
This is what I want
from a movie set in Gotham City
is the dumb
it's such a big broken city of ruined, awful architecture.
Yes.
And it's just like.
Something terrible's happened everywhere.
Exactly.
It's, you know, like, you know, I think it's in Arkham Knight.
There's a sequence, there's some DLC and it's set in an amusement park
and it's just a nightmare amusement park that some guy.
It was never good some some
billionaire made it for his daughter who was dying or something like that it's just the most horrifying
place imaginable and then every he died and she died and everyone involved died in an accident
and they just kept it running for and then it just fell to pieces yeah and now just criminals live in
it that's what i want out of gotham city exactly these places that nobody goes to and that's what we got in this.
Yeah, absolutely.
Anyway, you were saying after amusement while.
Yeah, so they, and then they're just having a chat about how well they did and they just
walk into gunfire.
Like, you know, like, you know, at the very least Black Mask and Zazz is out there.
Yeah, right.
Like at minimum.
That's true.
Yeah.
I just thought, and there was another thing which I cannot remember off the top of my
head.
I just feel like there are enough smart people in that group to not do that. yeah. Yeah, I just thought, and there was another thing which I cannot remember off the top of my head. I just feel like there are enough smart people in that group
to not do that.
Yeah.
I also thought some of the characterisation of Huntress was weird,
how she...
She seems quite socially inept.
What is that?
I don't...
Growing up being a killer?
Extreme killer, yeah.
I mean, it's extreme trauma at a young age, I think.
But I thought it was...
The Huntress seems a little bit inconsistent.
Yeah.
But it feels like it was meant to be like a.
Drax?
Yeah, but maybe like the trauma,
like maybe she's a little bit on the spectrum or something like that
because she doesn't seem to understand how to operate in like social.
Yeah.
But I guess she's just been like her family were murdered.
Yeah.
And then she's just been shooting crossbows for 20 years.
Yeah, but like sometimes she finds things wildly funny
and sometimes she's super low-key and sometimes she's full of rage.
And doesn't get a fist bump or doesn't understand.
Yeah, I thought that was kind of all over the place.
I think she's great.
I love Mary Elizabeth Winstead and I'd like to see a movie with those guys.
Those costumes they put them in in the end though.
Atrocious.
Is that the
point i i hope so i hope so if they do another one of these which it looks like not looking
likely at this point i should say i hated all of the huntresses costumes i think because it's
mostly motorcycle helmet and leather jacket yeah and that weird like long pleathery pvc coat i
liked the bit where she's practicing her kind of kill speech.
Oh, yeah, that was fun.
I thought that was fun.
I'm like, you'd want to nail that, wouldn't you?
I think so, yeah.
But just towards the end when they all met up, I'm like,
what is this character supposed to be?
So I think that's the point is that she,
and maybe they even mention it, that she's so good at killing
but she hasn't learned anything else because she's just lived
in a monastery with killers or whatever.
There were some little touches I did like at the end where they're all in the with killers or whatever. Yeah. I did like, there were some little touches I liked.
I did like at the end where they're all in the diner or whatever.
And they're like, they're like supporting each other in nice ways.
Yeah, exactly.
I love your name.
That's a great name.
I like when you did that.
And there's a moment in the fight sequences where one of them was like,
do you need a hair tie?
Oh, yeah, right.
Yeah.
And that was a lot of fun.
I'm like, okay, a woman definitely directed this
because a man would never think of that.
Claire's always looking for a hair tie.
That's what I'm talking about.
Almost constantly.
Yes.
Yeah.
I also, my favourite character was Journey Smollett-Bell,
who I've been calling Julie Smollett-Bell for some time.
Sure.
She's Black Canary.
I thought that version of the character was great.
I agree.
And great costumes.
Yeah, okay, I don't disagree with that.
All right.
Yeah.
Cassandra Cain is a Batgirl at some point
Well, she was the Batgirl that doesn't talk
Yes
Like, she was the
And they kind of hint
I've done an Easter egg video with Mitch
Yeah
Yeah
But yeah, I think there's that
When you first meet her, she's like mute for a second
Yeah
Yeah
So the ending, it ends on Founders Pier
Uh-huh
Which I would have liked to have seen more of those statues
And like, who's this like Thomas Wayne
or before that
there's like
people before that
and whatever
but I'm like
oh god this is like
a CGI fog situation
we're back here again
are we
but I thought that
final showdown
and the way he blew up
and just like
there was no
bits and pieces everywhere
there was no ambiguity
as to whether he'd live
but I'm also kind of
disappointed that
we haven't got all these
Batman rogues.
Yeah.
Because they killed Zaz and him.
Yeah, right.
And I think they're both kind of interesting figureheads in Gotham.
That's what happens.
Anytime it's a good character, like with Klor and Killmonger and Black Panther,
I'm like, I wish they hadn't killed them.
That would be nice if they were still alive.
But I guess that also adds to it where you're kind of like, ah.
I mean, also, you can put someone else in the black mask.
Like his father may be still alive.
Right, yeah.
Maybe we just saw Zaz got stabbed.
Maybe he's got a brother who's identical and even more flamboyant.
Same name.
Yep.
Same mask.
So I wonder what the future of kind of the underworld of Gotham
is going to be off the back of this.
A question that I thought about was,
where's Batman during any of this? Yes. a question i that i thought about was where's batman during any of
this i feel you i feel you need some sort of justification in when there's like a full-on
gang war and ace chemicals have been blown up yes and there's a you know there's a gathering of 100
killers and thugs or whatever you at least i feel have to address where's the where's the main man
in this like yeah absolutely you know
whenever it's like whenever there's a like a avengers solo movie it's always like why would
an iron man step in or whatever and you can go okay he's busy you know happy hogan shows up in
spider-man is like he's busy doing a thing yeah absolutely you at least have to i need knowledge
i mean he seems to be in the universe because they mentioned bruce wayne yeah but there's no
hint at really batman at all There was one mention of Batman.
At the very end.
Yes.
After the credits.
Did you stay?
No, they mentioned him in the movie.
Do they?
Yes.
I don't remember.
They do.
I might have gone to the toilet.
Okay.
You definitely went to the toilet.
But I remember thinking there was one mention of Batman in it.
I can't remember where it is.
I think it might be in when they're all holed up in the amusement mile.
Yeah.
Okay.
In the thing.
Yeah. Right. Okay. But yeah. Yeah, okay. In the thing. Yeah, right.
Okay.
But, yeah.
I've just got here as well.
There was some alternate ending stuff.
Apparently one of the things they were trying to recover was actually.
Oh, I know this.
It's a dick pic.
It's dick pic.
It's one of Black Mask's dick pics.
Or like a whole bunch that were engraved.
Yes.
Or like on the diamond or on a memory stick or something like that.
And I guess they took that out because it didn't play very well and people like in the testing like we don't
like this i think it's more interesting than the diamond right but also it doesn't feel like that
version of the character would care if anybody had seen his dick or not yeah absolutely and i think
also originally he was supposed to end i was supposed to end with him like he's the mask is
like fused to him. Right, yeah.
We've talked about this.
Some versions of the comics, you can't take it off for various reasons.
But like most movies, they get tweaked a lot.
It just seems like we know more about it now than what we used to.
That's true, yeah.
Because people just talk about the test screenings now.
Yeah, so look, I don't know if I'd see like another Harley Quinn movie,
but I'd probably, I mean I would.
Yes.
But I'd definitely take like a Birds of Prey something off the back of this
with Harley Quinn in it.
Right.
Because I think Harley Quinn, and Margot Robbie mentions this in an interview,
she's more interesting when she's also bouncing off other people.
Right.
Because a solo movie, I think for anybody,
it largely depends on who they're with.
It does, true.
And are you going to introduce another straight man
who's just hanging out with Harley Quinn for some reason?
Yeah.
Like, why are you so crazy, Harley?
Why are you so crazy?
Yeah, I'd definitely see another Birds of Prey movie with Harley Quinn.
Or even I'd see, there's another Suicide Squad movie coming, obviously.
But I'd see another.
And she's in that, I believe.
Okay, right.
Okay, cool, cool, cool.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. cool, cool, cool. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Also, it was nice.
I don't know if this is her doing, but she is a producer on it.
Yeah.
The cover of Black Betty by Australia's Own Spider-Bait.
Oh, it did make an appearance.
That must have been her, right?
I would hope so, yeah.
Yeah.
I thought there was some good music choices in this.
I feel like in a more girl-centric kind of movie, for lack of a better word, made by someone dumber,
you'd have worse songs in it.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
You'd have, let's just say nine to five.
That's a great song.
You know what I'm talking about, though, right?
You'd have the greatest songs ever written.
I understand.
That's what you'd have, yeah.
I got a couple of tweets here, just a couple,
which I think indicates how many people on this show saw it.
At least two.
Mike says,
It was surprisingly a blast.
Had a lot of fun with it.
Might be the best DC film.
Best movie ever.
And Andrew says,
I got a lot out of Birds of Prey.
Good film.
Great characters.
But my biggest takeaway is how well choreographed all the fight scenes were.
You felt the brutality.
And each character had a distinct style.
Thoughts?
We've given you our thoughts already, Andrew.
Exactly.
We agree with you. But we also got some emails about it. Em've given you our thoughts already, Andrew. Exactly. But we agree with you.
But we also got some emails about it.
Love emails.
Everyone that I've seen is quite positive.
So Austin has said,
I think it was weird enough to be fun and enjoyable,
and I can say for certain BOP is chaotic and violent in the best way.
The storytelling was a bit crazy,
and boy am I annoyed that yet again the villain dies,
but hey, the mask sure did look good.
It did look good.
It did look good.
It's a good-looking mask.
Rodrigo has said, Birds of yay or birds of nay.
Just got out of Birds of Prey and had a lot of fun with it,
but it was funny and the action was really well choreographed
and I really enjoyed watching you and McGregor being a complete psychopath.
Yes.
Overall, I give it a birds of yay.
I also give it a birds of yay.
It's a good rating system.
We should do that for every week, for every movie.
Exactly.
There you go.
Should we move on to the next segment of the show? Yes. I'm excited for it. It's my good rating system. We should do that for every week, for every movie. Exactly. There you go. Should we move on to the next segment of the show?
Yes.
I'm excited for it.
It's my favourite segment.
Oh, and one more.
This is from Nick.
He says, just saw Birds of Prey and thought it was a good,
a serviceable movie.
Fun at times with Deadpool-esque vibes, mainly timeline jumping,
wisecracking jokes and depression.
Loved the police station scene.
Definitely felt like the Joker should have been in this,
as he's mentioned every five minutes.
Yeah, but also. Yeah.
I don't want him in it. Not me neither.
Alright, you know what it's time for?
What are we reading? What are we going to read?
Very good.
I'm doing the thing.
What are we reading today?
What are we reading today, Mason?
You've been watching Lock and Key. I haven't gotten to it yet.
I haven't been watching Lock and Key.
What do you think about it?
Because you love the comic book.
I did.
The comic's better.
I'll start with that.
Oh, yeah, there you go.
But the comic is like, there's some unfilmable shit in that.
Because it's too elaborate?
When you say unfilmable, do you mean just unfilmable on a television budget?
Yes.
Or you'd have to do it over $800 million movies at minimum.
Right, yeah. So I think it does
a pretty good job. I think when it sticks
to the weird house key stuff,
it's much better than like, what's happening at school?
So break it down again very quickly. Okay, so basically
there's a tragedy in a family, so they're
forced to move back to the childhood home
of their father. And also within
this house there are many
keys hidden within and they all have magical abilities.
Some terrifying, some whimsical, but there's danger afoot.
I'll take those whimsical keys, thank you.
Yeah.
Ice cream key, not bad.
Well, there's a lot of ice cream in this show, actually.
Very good.
I think, yeah, I like it.
I don't love it.
I would say that's probably.
But also I'm like four in.
But it seems to be getting okay-ish reviews, doesn't it?
I have no idea, actually.
I've heard pretty positive things on the whole.
I've also heard mixed things.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's not my favorite thing in the world.
But what is?
That's true.
You know what is not my favorite thing in the world necessarily?
But I think it's growing on me.
Have you seen Medical Police?
Not yet.
Okay.
Did you ever watch Children's Hospital?
Bits and pieces.
Same thing, right? That's maybe the dumbest show in the world. uh i haven't seen in a while but that's such a funny show i
don't think it's on netflix as well but it was it's it's just insane antics in a hospital
and there's no continuity it makes no sense yeah uh it's actually a hope it's actually a hospital
in brazil but everybody here is American.
But they did one scene.
This is in Children's Hospital.
They flew the whole cast over to Brazil for like a couple of scenes
so they could go outside and be in Brazil.
It's that kind of – but anyway, the premise of this is a couple
of the doctors from Children's Hospital are now also in the medical police.
Oh, it's a spin-off, is it?
It's a spin-off, but they're cops and also doctors.
And they've got a contained outbreak, so it's very topical right now.
So there is more continuity in this, would you say, than the other?
There is more continuity in this, yeah.
But it's not great?
I think it's growing on me.
There's some good standards.
Jason Schwartzman has a little appearance in it.
Okay.
He's called the Condor or something like that.
It's pretty good. I like it. What is that it's pretty it's very it's pretty good i like
it what is that guy's deal i don't know i don't know is he because i feel like he's not rich enough
to do whatever maybe he is maybe he's made some good choice like yeah because i i feel i mean we
he's not a radical party boy it seems i feel if if i made one movie in hollywood i'd be like i
this will see me out. This is fine.
I think we just see it through a lens of like these people who are making $50 million movies every year.
Yeah, absolutely.
Getting paid $50 million, you know.
But I feel like if you do a half a dozen movies in Hollywood,
you don't have a massive cocaine problem or like multiple ex-wives.
I feel like you could just quit.
He's in New Fargo.
Oh, yeah, he is too.
He's in like Between Two Firms, the movies. He's in Neo-Y oh yeah he's too that's right uh he's in like between two firms the
movies in neo yokio wet on american summer like there's stuff in here that's like yeah i know it
but it's not yeah yeah it's not huge well he's can yeah i guess he's like grand buddha hotel like i
yeah yeah i don't know man i'm not to tell you i'm gonna look up jason swartzman net worth and
then we'll know where okay right i bet it's right. I bet it's like $4 million.
I bet it's $20 million.
Yeah, it is.
You're dead on.
Here's the thing, though.
Do you think it's always $20 million? I think it's always $20 million.
I looked somebody up the other...
You know what?
I looked up...
Let's look up anybody.
No, because I did...
We should look up anybody,
but I was going to say,
because I looked up...
Because when I did...
I went on the podcast
and I talked about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Yeah.
And I,
so I looked up the net worths
of Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird,
the creators of those characters.
Yes.
And I think it said $20 million.
It must be close to billionaires,
those guys.
I think,
yeah,
I think that's way off.
Yeah.
I think it's because
they don't disclose
how much they make,
but like they,
they sold all that to Nickelodeon.
Like I think,
yeah,
I think they're worth
hundreds of millions of dollars.
I think that's just,
at minimum.
I think if the,
if this net worth thing doesn't know, it just guesses $20 million. You should put in Mr. Sunday movies net worth. Oh, that's just, I think if the, if this net worth thing doesn't know,
it just guesses $20 million.
You should put in Mr.
Sunday movies net worth.
Oh,
that's interesting.
Oh my God.
And then I'll know.
20 million.
I hope it's 20 billion.
Fingers crossed.
My net worth is $900,000.
Really?
I mean,
I guess if you,
how does it know?
I mean,
but I'm thinking though,
like I have a house,
but I don't own it.
So no,
it's not at all. Like I'm rent. I'm not renting it. I have a house, but I don't own it. So no, it's not at all.
I'm not renting it.
I'm paying it off.
Yeah, right.
Who calculated this?
That's what I'm talking about.
Who's out there?
Maybe it's mainly accurate Joe.
Actually, I'm, no, I'm mostly in debt.
So I'm negative money actually.
Is the number in red?
Look at the picture they chose.
Somebody updated this on the 1st of January.
Wow. Somebody's doing on the 1st of January.
Somebody's doing the work of the Lord.
He mainly does reviews of trailers and repeat on other things.
How much money does he earn?
That's a good question.
Would there be a way to figure it out based on your YouTube views?
Sort of, but it's wild.
It's so up and down. I don't just mean like the views.
I mean like what you get paid.
January is like you fall off, the money falls off a cliff in January.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah, so there you go.
Very interesting.
I'm excited about all my net worth.
But it just gives like the explanation of how much money you make on.
But also not everything is monetized and like I pay multiple editors
and you and Claire gets money also
for some reason.
I'm not going to like it.
Oh, my God.
There's various other things going on.
Just imagine you on the couch married with children style,
just doling out the cash, you know, and then the dog takes the money.
The dog takes the money.
What's a dog going to do with money?
But I think the bigger question rather than your net worth is would you find i got excited for
a bit i'm like i'm nearly a millionaire they present you with a check and then i thought
about it for a second yeah uh the bigger question is would you fight the carpet from aladdin fuck
yeah man i'll beat the shit out of that carpet what if it's like yeah i was gonna say it's like
a dr strange cape kind of situation i couldn't no i'd try and befriend the carpet and use it in
the battle yes i'd get aladdin sword and the carpet uh-huh I'd try and befriend the carpet and use it in the battle. Yes.
I'd get Aladdin's sword
and the carpet.
Yeah.
No, I wouldn't fight the carpet.
Would you fight
the great mouse detective?
How big is it?
Just regular size mouse?
Regular size mouse.
Or is it man sized?
No, it's a mouse size.
It's a mouse size.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
I'll squash that mouse.
Okay, wow.
Yeah.
Would you fight Maid Marian
but she's the fox
and you're in love with her?
How could you fight something
that you love, mate?
But then again,
maybe my bigotry for that kind of thing
would come through and I would.
Yeah, maybe that's true, yeah.
Just to clarify, it's you who's in love with the fox
and not me.
The fan art would suggest otherwise.
I didn't realise also when I chose my avatar,
it looks like a furry avatar.
Yeah.
It's not something I'm against.
Because you don't want to reveal that.
No, I probably would.
I'm not against it. It's just not not really my thing which of the seven dwarves would
you fight the dumb one first dopey okay right yeah no i reckon you'd have crazy strength baby
no because he doesn't know his limits oh that's a good point actually yeah yeah i can hang he's
all bluster yeah he's all he'd go to water mate uh so do you want to talk about um
picard oh yeah picard talk our famous segment well someone wrote in andrew wrote i don't think
i'm up to date though it's been three i've only said it should be called jean-luc who's talking
i disagree it's pretty good i mean it's pretty good it's pretty good but also it's not how
pretty good is not how we how we This is a $900,000 operation.
No, it is.
No.
Let's make this a once every two weeks situation.
I'm honestly not fussed.
I don't have to come back to this every week.
It doesn't compel you?
I do it at the end.
Yeah, okay, fair enough.
I like this last episode better than the one before,
but it's still not like...
It's all right.
You know what's the most interesting thing about this movie, this show to me?
First of all, Picard's incredible sweaters.
Oh, Primo sweaters.
My goodness.
Great weaves.
You wouldn't expect it.
I would expect it.
Well, from Picard you would, yeah.
Yeah.
But imagine getting those today.
Those are some future weaves, you know.
What did you do with them?
Sometimes they're diagonal.
Yeah.
Would you get one?
Yes.
What did you do the head for? Was're diagonal. Yeah. Those are all. Did you get one? Yes. What did you do the head for?
Was he wearing a hood?
You went up.
You like waved over your body and then you waved around your head.
Yeah, maybe I was squeaking my head, my bald Picard head.
But also I feel like the guy, the Romulan guy they're setting up to be a villain.
Yes.
He wouldn't be considered handsome like five years ago.
As a Romulan or as a?
No, I mean five years ago in Hollywood.
They wouldn't be like, get a load of this handsome dude.
I think if you shaved a lot of that off,
he's probably very handsome under there.
Oh, I was going to say he'd be less handsome if you shaved it off.
I think it's the stubble that makes it.
He's like Spock handsome, the way that Spock's handsome.
I think the stubble and the shaggy hair makes it.
Anyway, it's not important.
He's on TV, so he's probably handsome.
He's probably devastatingly handsome.
That's how this works.
Because you're just comparing him to everybody else around him.
It's skewed the results.
It's Schwarzman syndrome.
It certainly is.
Ugly man is what you're saying.
No.
Real life.
Yes.
Yeah.
Very good.
Let's do letters, Mason.
Let's do letters.
I love letters.
Wait, no.
Different thing.
You weren't playing a porno, were you, Mason?
No, I saved that for the theatres.
The classic one was letters, oh letters.
We love you.
Some letters, they're only a day away.
I know they're here right now.
We're going to do letters.
If you want to send a letter to the show or a tweet,
weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com is where you can hit us up.
If you'd like to ask James which Disney characters he would fight.
Or I'm in love with.
Oh, good.
Yeah, good point.
Or both.
Or both.
Could be both.
Also, hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter.
You can also ask me during the week about a Disney character.
Maybe tweet a picture along with it just to be sure.
Ask me whether I'd fight him.
Oswald the Rabbit.
That's his name. Yeah? Yeah. Has he got a gun? Tough to say. He sure. Ask me whether I'd fight him. Oswald the Rabbit, that's his name.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Has he got a gun?
Tough to say.
He's probably got like a shiv or something.
He's probably got like a screwdriver.
He's like one of those Peaky Blinders kind of.
Yeah, yeah.
He's got a razor in his hat.
Yeah.
You don't have to ask me whether or not I'd win
because I don't think I would.
I think I'd probably get maybe half a character in
before I got mobbed.
Mushu?
Which one's that? The little dragon. I don't like that dragon. I think I'd probably get maybe half a character in before I got mobbed. Mushu? Which one's that?
The little dragon.
I don't like that dragon.
So you would fight him.
Yeah.
But what can he do?
I reckon he could strangle him.
There's some magic.
I reckon he'd strangle me.
Yeah, right?
And he'd have so much sass.
That's true.
And I'd be like, you sound like the donkey from Shrek, I'd say.
Yeah.
Yeah, got to throw him.
This is from Charlie.
Hashtag weeklyplanetpot on Twitter.
I have a very short answer to this.
Do you like Stargate SG-1?
I love you too.
I didn't say I love you, just to clarify.
Would you though?
No.
Oh, wow.
I didn't even know him.
Wow.
There's only three things I love in my life.
Yes.
My wife, my dog, and this drink bottle.
It's a good one, isn't it?
I even lost the lid and I still love it. Look, I trust your judgment in one third of cases. That's a great drink bottle. It's a good one, isn't it? I even lost the lid and I still love it.
Look, I trust your judgment in one third of cases.
That's a great drink bottle.
Also my son, an unborn child.
If you're listening in the future and you're like,
he was a bad dad.
I was.
I tried my best, all right?
I'm sorry.
Did you?
You're at the park and you look over at the pram
and it's just got a water bottle in it.
You're like, oh, no!
And your baby's in the sink at home just with tap water coming down on it.
I thought you were going to say a watermelon.
Hey, that's fine.
So do you like Stargate SG-1?
I've seen bits and pieces, and I do.
Yeah, I can see that.
But I've never watched the whole thing.
We didn't really get it here in like a block, I feel.
We got it kind of on and off maybe.
I don't know.
Okay.
Look, I liked it.
I like Richard Dean Anderson in most things.
And I enjoyed...
He was very much a Han Solo character in that.
I don't know if the show itself consistently holds up.
And he wasn't in it for the whole thing, I don't think.
No.
I remember watching a lot of it in the 90s when it was on TV tv yeah but in what order i don't know i think it's fun he's
got this exasperated world weary kind of vibe of like oh stargates again it's better than the movie
probably yeah yeah and there are a couple of like very heavily self-referential episodes there there
is one where like they say meet james spader it's a bit supernatural-esque in that they go through every plot line.
Every plot line is covered at a certain point.
At a certain point, they're just making fun of themselves.
So at one point, they run into a version of Stargate
that is being made on television kind of thing,
and they have to interact with those guys kind of thing.
That's fun, Mason.
It is pretty fun.
I like that show.
Not so much Stargate Atlantis.
That was more straight-faced, I feel.
First appearance of Jason Momoa, yeah. And he was also in one of the Baywatchantis. That was more straight-faced, I feel. It wasn't Jason Momoa, I believe.
And he was also in one of the Baywatches.
Oh, Baywatch Hawaii, maybe?
Maybe.
Is there a Baywatch Hawaii?
There is.
There's one of those.
Okay, right.
Or Baywatch Nights.
Was there a Baywatch Nights?
Yeah, it was like a detective show.
David Hasselhoff was a...
I assume he would lifeguard during the day
and then detective at night,
to which I say,
when are you sleeping, David Hasselhoff?
Cocaine.
And you've got a music career in Germany.
Cocaine.
Cocaine.
Okay, I get it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's busting those cocaine mobs for the cocaine.
That's what he's up to.
Get that cocaine, yeah.
You got a letter there?
Yes.
This one is from Bruce Wayne.
What?
I know, right?
Is it you?
Is that what it says?
Like that email from Batman vs Superman?
Oh my God, James, we're both Wonder Woman.
We're both Wonder Woman.
It's about Rick Jones.
We talked about Rick Jones last week.
I think that Owen Wilson, wow, might be Rick Jones in the upcoming Loki TV series.
And I said that time, Doctor Who guy.
Exactly.
So Bruce, still says Bruce, has sent some more information.
Yeah, he's just pointed out that Rick Jones, Hulk, and Loki have like a link together.
Like in one of the very earliest stories.
Was that the Avengers come together?
The Avengers were founded because Loki put like some illusory dynamite on some train tracks.
And then the Hulk smashed through it.
And the rest of the superheroes were like, we're going to stop the Hulk.
And then they all got him.
My son has that picture storybook.
Someone gave him a set of origins.
And that's one of them.
It's not dynamite, though.
It's just an illusion that the bridge is broken.
Oh, OK.
Right.
Well.
I don't really read it properly because it's a badly written story.
I don't like it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, this version is at least.
Yeah.
OK.
So I reckon maybe.
Maybe.
All I'm saying is there's definitely going to be some dynamite on some tracks.
Oh, my goodness.
This one, Bob Schwama says, do you find comics too involved?
I sometimes just want to read Batman without feeling confused because the comic is like,
do you remember when Darkseid ordered a sandwich three years ago?
Hot take, I guess.
Also, congrats on Baby Sunday, the sequel, a.k.a. Baby Sunday 2.
More baby-ing.
Oh.
Thank you.
That's on Baby Sunday, the sequel, a.k.a. Baby Sunday 2.
Or Baby Ying.
Oh.
Thank you.
Yeah, no, I read a lot of comics,
but I still find it confusing or intimidating where to jump in on certain things.
Unlike our podcast where you can jump in at any time.
You listeners, jump on.
Recommend it to your friends.
Old listeners, you've had enough.
That's right.
Get out of here.
That's right.
Make some space.
You're filled to the brim with continuity.
I'm sick of it. yeah yeah i don't know i feel like most of the time now when i somebody recommends
a comic book it's a run yeah it's a run and it's often like the reason that run is getting a lot
of attention is because they've reset the okay some of the continuity like immortal hulk which
we we got both got onto last year or the year before or whatever it was. I've got to get back into that, yeah. That, you know, it kind of, you know,
it starts off with a change in the status quo.
Yeah.
And that is all sort of illustrated in the first issue
or the first couple of pages.
And then you go, okay, I get on board with this.
I know the Hulk and I know why he's different now and et cetera.
And also like a lot of, I guess mostly now I probably read newer things
like Black Hammer or whatever.
Yeah, so you read them as they come out.
As they come out, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sure, okay, that makes sense.
So you're saying no, you're not afraid of anything?
I'll never be afraid of anything.
I'll punch any Disney character.
And by that I mean I'll watch you punch any Disney character.
Oh, wait, it's going to be really good.
Yes.
Speaking of, Drake Gillespie, have we spoken about this one before?
He's come across a limited six-issue series from Boom Studios
called Once and Future by Kieran Gillen.
It's a kind of a modern-day King Arthur kind of situation.
I'm not familiar with that.
I believe.
You might have talked about it.
Maybe I have.
It's something I should get to.
I believe it's like a guy who might be the future king of England
and it's also he teams up with his grandma, I think do you gotta i'm just opening up i'm opening up the bloody kieran gillen oh
you're nice filmography but i did wicked and divine yeah that's right i'm doing die at the
moment that's right that's why i know i'm nice yeah it's a good comic oh yeah okay once in future
king the once in future king just called once in future once in future i like the name okay cool Yeah, okay. Once and Future King. The Once and Future King? Just called Once and Future. Once and Future.
I like the name.
Okay, cool.
I'll put that on my list.
I'll also put it on my list.
I think I've seen the covers a number of times and I'm like, that's interesting.
Am I sick of King Arthur type stuff?
Maybe, but I'll give it a try because I like Kieran Gillen.
Exactly.
Wicked and Divine's a good series.
Have you read that?
No.
You should get to it.
But I've bought maybe the first volume.
Okay, right.
I'm going to get to that.
This is from Every Marvel Movie Ever,
which actually it seems like a podcast,
a Marvel movie pod is the handle, Twitter handle.
What would happen if Truman from The Truman Show
turned out to be a serial killer?
Would they keep the show on the air?
Who would volunteer to play a role in it?
Thanks, mates.
I think they do
like good television is like good television for those people they clearly don't care who they're
really affecting what i think would it would come what would come into play in as in like who how
could he murder people like who are they sending in there to get murdered i said criminals okay
do they have that kind of power it's's quite ambiguous as to what... What's on the outside world.
Also, what year is it?
Actually, it's Monday.
But what year is it?
Ed Harris is wearing a very 90s beret.
That's true.
And they're in that 90s kind of studio, aren't they?
Yeah.
But maybe it's a parallel universe where all technology and fashion sort of peaked in the 90s.
So they haven't changed it.
You know what I mean?
I love the 90s.
Yeah. So I don't know. I mean? I love the 90s. Yeah.
So I don't know.
I think they'd probably funnel that into whatever kind of show he turned out to be.
Make it kind of a running man kind of situation
where they send in convicted murderers or whatever and he murders them.
But here's the thing, though.
Wouldn't they be like, wouldn't they tell him?
Because going in to be murdered, they'd just be like,
you're in a TV show.
This isn't real.
Oh, see, I don't know.
I feel like it's a long time since I've seen The Truman Show.
It's a good movie.
But I think that if he started turning into a serial killer, I think they'd pack it in.
Yeah.
I don't think they have.
You're probably right.
Yeah.
Look, I don't think.
Also, it was a simpler time.
Yes.
I feel like if they made The Truman Show now and it turned out he was a murderer, they
would maybe try and keep it going.
But I feel it was a gentler, simpler time.
Yeah.
But I mean, narratively, you could try it.
Like, if they were like, let's make a plot device.
Let's make a horror reboot where he is a serial killer.
I think they could do it kind of Westworld, where it's like, he's this guy.
He knows, he figures it out.
And he's running amok.
Yeah.
So they have to get everybody out of that universe.
Yeah.
Out of that world.
That's really interesting.
Truman Show is a serial killer.
Yeah. And maybe he also
knows that he's in a tv show well that's the thing and then he's just then he just flips one day and
they yeah he's known for like years exactly planning it and yes and it's not like you know
at the end of the regular truman show he's like and good morning good afternoon good night or
whatever and he has a fun time or whatever he realizes that instead of coming to terms with
that he just snaps i think that. I think that would be great.
Cool.
And you think he'd be planning it?
Yeah.
I mean, you could do it either way.
Well, not at all.
That's the thing about movies.
Yeah.
He'd go on a rampage.
He could do it First Blood style.
He goes into the jungle.
By jungle, I mean like the local parks or whatever that are inside his little town.
But they can see him because of the cameras he's wearing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cool.
Good stuff.
Anything else? Is that the show?
I think that's the whole show.
Thank you everybody for listening to the show.
The whole show.
Nothing but the show.
You can listen to other things.
No.
Unless you're one of those old listeners,
in which case.
Get out of here.
We're done with you.
We're done with you.
I wonder if we've seen the collided numbers
because of Seder.
Please stay.
Well, sometimes you say,
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truman show style serial killers they're like we should figure out exactly what will work and not
work yeah anyway thank you everybody for listening even if you are a deranged truman show style
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We've got a Caravan of Garbage this week on the Super Mario Bros. movie.
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And let me tell you.
It's not a good movie.
It's not as good as I didn't like it.
It's a bad movie.
If you'd like to... Everyone who made that should be in jail. Or dead. It's not a good movie. It's not good. I didn't like it. It's a bad movie. If you'd like to.
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That was probably me.
Some people probably would have liked that.
We'll talk about it next week, though.
Briefly.
We'll be like, can you believe that one? did you see adam sandler's speech he won an independent
spirit award did he and yet he did it in a funny voice oh good it's kind of fun i like great i like
adam sandler yeah uh i like there's a like beloved actor and and writer adam sandler comedian i like
him that's a controversial take because he makes terrible things sometimes he makes terrible things
that's true yeah so I like him too.
But we do have an Oscar video coming up, though,
on some Oscar stuff, which is very early in the week,
probably around the Oscars.
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This is way easier when you're in the room and not in the toilet.
I listen to it.
I cut out so much dead air, Mason.
Yeah, I bet you did.
Wasn't that my totally, actually, yeah. Well, it's hard when you're not bouncing room and not in the toilet i listen to it i cut out so much dead air may yeah but you did wasn't that much i think actually yeah what's hard when you're not bouncing off someone it's true people know when i'm recording a video when i'm with you or not
yeah from the tone of my voice i want i can only do it with your disdainful look
looking at me being like you've you've said that wrong yeah you've done it's bad yeah and what
you've done that's everything i think that's the whole show, yeah. Cool. Next week,
we might do Sonic,
but...
Is that a whole episode?
I don't know.
We might do video game mascots
or something.
Oh, yes.
Would you like to do that?
I know we're not
a video game podcast,
but...
We could just play
Super Smash Brothers
and port the audio over.
I'm so bad at that game.
I know.
I don't even understand it.
I played it recently
and I'm like,
I don't...
I don't even understand
these colours.
My old man eyes. There's like a... I've never been able to get it, and I'm like, I don't even understand these colours. My old man eyes.
I've never been able to get it, but there is like a rhythm to it
that I've never been able to walk into on it.
I'll do a Mario Kart.
I'll crush you in a Mario Kart, Mason.
But not my brother, who's good at Mario Kart.
He's good at Mario Kart.
The one you don't like.
Yeah, I know.
I'm aware.
I remember.
All right.
Maybe that's the secret.
Maybe that's why I don't like him.
Everyone should speculate. You hate Mario Kart. I don't like Mario Kart. 64. I don't like it. It's my favourite one. All right. Maybe that's the secret. Maybe that's why I don't like him. Oh. Everyone should speculate.
You hate Mario Kart.
I don't like Mario Kart.
64.
I don't like it.
It's my favorite one.
All right.
That's the show.
Grab that gem, you guys.
We'll see you next week.
Goodbye.
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