The Weekly Planet - 325 Movies That Were Long Delayed

Episode Date: March 9, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:55 This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host Nick Mason. I'm here. We're both here. We're both here to talk the news of the week, aren't we, Mason?
Starting point is 00:01:25 Number one news of the week. The whole world's out of toilet paper, apparently. Apparently so. How's your toilet paper situation? I'm okay. This is a hot topic. We're hitting all the hot topics straight up top. One of the hottest topics.
Starting point is 00:01:35 And this will be an artifact of the future when the world's been destroyed and the only entertainment is this episode of this podcast that somebody's found on like an iPhone that's rapidly losing power. And they're like, what is this? What's this mystical box? And they push the button. It's like, the world's out of toilet paper. And they're like, what's toilet paper?
Starting point is 00:01:53 That explains all the skeletons in the toilet paper aisle. Everybody destroyed themselves in supermarkets. We get the who gives a crap toilet paper. So we have a lot anyway. Everybody who has that subscription has too much oh and the other thing is you can't order it from there now again at the moment because they're out of stock but if you've already got a subscription you just keep getting it yeah for sure the only like because there was part of me that's like well i do need toilet paper so i'm like do i engage in
Starting point is 00:02:17 this because i i genuinely need toilet paper but then i'm like it's not worth me punching some dude or getting punched and getting filmed and being on the internet. You say that now, but when you're really busted, in a couple of weeks. Yeah. You've been holding it in for weeks. I'd use newspaper. I'd use tissues.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Whatever. There are alternatives. Yeah, but again, you say that now, but you're assuming that you're the only one. You're the only genius who's thought of that. You're not, though. No, I know. I could have a shower.
Starting point is 00:02:48 That's true. You know what I mean? There you go. No toilet paper required. Yeah, but again, you're assuming you're the only person who's thought of using your shower. Yeah. But three seashells. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:02:58 I thought about it. Yeah, I've seen the memes. Well, he mentioned a thing about, like, you're supposed to scoop it out. Really? That's what it was. I think it was a joke Because he was sick of people asking him Also a guy who used to
Starting point is 00:03:08 Shit in the shower Apparently at Planet Hollywood Oh yeah that's true We talked about that When our friends Alan and Andy were here Yeah So if we're out of toilet paper And they're not making any more
Starting point is 00:03:17 We're still talking about this Just quickly It means society is crumbled Oh yeah So everyone's going to run out anyway It doesn't That's why everybody in the future Switched to like, fur loincloths, I guess. Like in the show Sea, potentially, with Jason Momoa?
Starting point is 00:03:31 Yeah, maybe, yeah. That's maybe on Apple Plus or on a different streaming service. Yes, exactly. Anyway, news of the week, Mason. We're going to talk about Last of Us. We're going to talk about 4, the new Batmobile. Then we've got some hot topics, don't we? The new Batmobile, it's also the old Batmobile.
Starting point is 00:03:45 That's right, in many ways. And James Bond, of course, was delayed. And then we're going to talk about long-delayed movies that eventually came out. A bit of a summary at the top. I like it. You put it in real smoothly this week. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Okay, so Tessa Thompson has spoken to Entertainment Tonight. Remember that show that was on in the 90s? Hi, I'm Bob Newhart. Hey, I'm the woman this week. If you're in Australia, this is the only entertainment news that you get here. We're on the set of Rob Schneider's crap thing he's making. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:04:19 I wish I was dead. Thanks, Rob Schneider. But he's not, is he? No. Have you seen real Rob? It's terrible. He sent me a clip of him. He showed me a clip of him once. He goes to a coffee shop. It's the very
Starting point is 00:04:29 first clip. And then somebody asks him for an autograph or something. No, he doesn't tip enough. He doesn't tip enough and then he's like and then he goes on a big rant about how he's famous and how hot his wife is. It's really good. It sounds bad. I heard that he paid Netflix to be on that or something. To be on his own show. Yeah, like they didn't pay for it the way that they normally buy things
Starting point is 00:04:47 because they don't want it. Anyway, if you're a real Rob fan, hit us up. Hit us up. Yeah, why? That's my question. Anyway, they spoke to Entertainment Tonight's Christian Bale, according to Tessa Thompson, is the villain of four. Ah, because we knew who was going to be on it or he's in Torch at least.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Okay, he's on. It was mentioned that he was going to be an intergalactic character of sorts. That was mentioned in the past. And this is what it is. So I don't know who that is. No more details? Just intergalactic. Intergalactic.
Starting point is 00:05:15 But see, here's the thing. Intergalactic in the cinematic universe could include really anything. It could be space. It could be the galaxy. It could be mythological, but a lot isn't the galaxy it could be like mythological but a lot of the mythological stuff comes from space yeah so i think the the rumor because people on the internet including us like to speculate based on previous roles yes i think a lot of toilet paper so yeah exactly so a lot of people have suggested he's going to be the current minotaur
Starting point is 00:05:41 the uh the marwa comics minotaur because he's uh uh civilian identity is this guy called dario agger who is like a patrick bateman style like slick ceo kind of thing like he's he's the head of the roxen corporation who we've seen yeah right many things so it was in it was in all the three iron mans i think at least mentioned it was in daredevil yeah it was in peggy carter yeah yeah it was in Peggy Carter. Yeah, yeah. It's in the first Iron Man. It was in Agent Carter. Agent Carter, sorry, yeah. It's in the first Iron Man.
Starting point is 00:06:09 You see, like, the billboard in the background. Yeah, that's right. Of the Iron Munger fight, I think it is. Yeah, maybe Iron Man gets thrown through it. So, I mean, that's possible. So he's been sort of floated as maybe that's the guy. That idea, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:20 I can't see him putting on, like, a big crazy outfit either. No, so he's normal and then he transforms into a minotaur and then it's all CG. He's like, ah, now you've unleashed, et cetera. Exactly. And I think there was a storyline fairly recently in the comics where he and the Roxen Corporation make a deal with Malekith of the Dark Elves, where it's who we saw in Thor the Worst Thor,
Starting point is 00:06:42 and they'll take over the planet and then Roxen Corporation will be able to strip mine the whole planet. Okay. Like the Earth. We can't do that now because... Too late. There's nothing left. Yeah, but they are on Earth, though, and if he's a slick businessman on Earth,
Starting point is 00:06:55 maybe he's been like, let me buy this Asgard, and they're like, you're not a slick businessman. I mean, you are, but you're also like, you're another thing. You're two things. Two things. And we're not having it. Let's fight. Yeah, that's right. You'll be one thing, you're another thing. You're two things. Two things. And we're not having it. Let's fight. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:07:06 You'll be one thing and that's it. Bash. But anyway, he could be anyone, really. We don't know. That's the thing. There is literally thousands of other options as characters he could be. I think he's going to, whatever he is, he's going to look a lot like Christian Bale in whatever the thing is. Yeah, see, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:07:20 I can't imagine him. But I mean, you know. I know he's done Batman and whatever. He's got kids though, right? Yeah, but he's also got a million billion can't imagine him. But, I mean, you know. I know he's done Batman and whatever. He's got kids, though, right? Yeah, but he's also got a million billion dollars. Well, that's, and he's also been Batman. Yeah. So, I mean, but I guess this.
Starting point is 00:07:31 He's obviously game, but do you think he's game now to put on a. Yeah, well, I think maybe. Not an uncomfortable suit. No, but I'm thinking like your grandmaster kind of thing. Yes. Like you put on a golden robe or whatever. A weird soul patch drawn on your face or whatever. I think he'd do that, especially if his kids are like,
Starting point is 00:07:48 Dad, you've got to be in this. You've got to take whatever role to be in this Marvel Universe. Or we won't love you. Yeah, Batman's lame, Dad. Yeah. Dad. Dad. Dad, you're not even the most recent Batman, Dad.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Who is? We don't know. Dad. We don't see commercial and critical success, Dad. We don't see commercial and critical success, Dad. We just see the Batman with the big stuff, batarangs, explosions, Dad. He looks like he could still do it. Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I mean, it doesn't mean that long, has it? The last one was like eight years ago. But do you think he's also, he's probably also done with physical transformations? Oh, definitely. I think he's mentioned that. I think the breaking point was the last movie where he played Dick Cheney.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Did he play? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe. And one of the several other times that he's done that, either being big or small and, you know, throughout the years. So he's not going to be Toad in the Mario Brothers remake. No, but he said to. I'm so little.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Because he said to Gary Oldman, because Gary Oldman played Winston Churchill, he was like, how much weight did you put on to play Winston Churchill? That's incredible. And he's like, none. It's prosthetics. And then he's like, what am weight did you put on to play Winston Churchill? That's incredible. And he's like, none, it's prosthetics. And then he's like, what am I doing? Yeah, you can do that, Christian Bale. But it didn't used to look good though.
Starting point is 00:08:53 I feel like it's only recently they've kind of nailed it. Have you seen Bombshell? No. Because they put John Lithgow in like a huge like fake kind of rubber neck. Yeah, right. It looks amazing. Yeah, right. Yeah, so. I also wonder how much of Christian Bale's early notoriety
Starting point is 00:09:06 was based on the idea that he could do that. Because, you know, he's a very talented actor, but there's a lot of very talented actors who haven't hit it big. I'm wondering how much of that is just the idea of he could gain, you know, become sort of super rock solid for American Psycho and then become like a skeleton for The Machinist or whatever. And people are like, this guy is committed to acting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:26 He's a real actor. Yeah, we're all in the industry and we see that and we respect it. Yeah, we've got a weird cadence. We've got a weird way of speaking here. Well, they're all in their circles, aren't they? Yeah, that's true. They're hot tubs. They're in hot tubs with like cult robes on.
Starting point is 00:09:42 You probably heard this. The Last of Us is being developed into a HBO series. I did say that. The video game. That's right. Under Craig Mazin. He's the Chernobyl guy?
Starting point is 00:09:52 He's the Chernobyl guy. He's the scary movie three and four guy. He's the superhero movie guy. He's the Hangover 2 and 3 guy. He's the Huntsman's Winter's War guy. He's the union busting guy.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Boo. That's what I say. Is he really? Boo to him, yeah. I didn't think so. Do you want to know what that's about specifically? No, the writers union. He's what I say. Is he really? Boo to him, yeah. I don't think so. Do you want to know what that's about specifically? No, the writers union.
Starting point is 00:10:07 He's one of those guys who's like, hey, I think writers should be paid less. But not me, though. He's right. Because I'm encouraged. I'm with him. I didn't know that. Okay. Well, that's no good.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I'll look into that. And if that's true, I'll leave this bit in. Or I won't look into it. And I'll just leave it in as is. And we'll get sued? Okay. What's he going to do? He doesn't have the backing of a union.
Starting point is 00:10:26 What's he going to come at us with? Well, that's so true, right? His billions of dollars? He's not that rich, actually. These are exclusively hits, except for the Huntsman's Winter War. But every other one of these made money. All right, cool. Chernobyl's great.
Starting point is 00:10:38 It's interesting that he's... I find that fascinating that he did Chernobyl and all those other things. Yeah, right. So was he just kind of doing that for the paycheck? Was he just like, I really just want to do something now? I feel like a lot of people, a lot of writers and producers sort of ride that wave. Like, you know, everybody who, you know, all the Seth Rogen is an example. And Evan Goldberg switched from like, you're knocked ups and et cetera to Preacher and another thing.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Doing Invincible at the moment, animated? There you go, yeah. But they do more serious stuff as well yeah right whatever those things happen yeah that's right
Starting point is 00:11:07 yeah yeah those things I cannot name yeah I know right what are we talking about
Starting point is 00:11:10 The Last of Us there we go yes it's also going to be co-written by Neil Druckmann who's creative head at Naughty Dog
Starting point is 00:11:16 he might even be the head oh video game adaptation written by a video game yeah so that's pretty wild and it will possibly
Starting point is 00:11:22 also adapt sequel elements so I wasn't I've never been super keen on a Last of Us movie now The Last of Us written by a video game producer. That's pretty wild. And it will possibly also adapt sequel elements. So I've never been super keen on a Last of Us movie. Now, The Last of Us is a zombie apocalypse-esque movie. You haven't played it? No, I haven't played it, but it's a man and a young girl. It's Hugh Jackman and Alan Page. Okay, yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Or James Brolin and Alan Page. But it's definitely Alan Page. But Alan Page has never been involved. So if I recall, there were two video games that came out roughly similar times, one of which had Ellen Page, the actual actor Ellen Page. It was called Beyond something. And she was voicing a character, and at roughly the same time, there was this game that came out with a character who looked very similar to Ellen Page,
Starting point is 00:12:01 but Ellen Page did not provide the voice. That is correct. There we go. Okay. So you haven't played it? No. Yeah, you totally should. It sounds like a long escort mission.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Yeah, but it's good. It's the peak of the PlayStation 3. It's kind of the last, probably not the last, but it's considered the last AAA title. It's from the same guys who did Uncharted. It's the same. Yeah, right. And then they remastered it for the PS4,
Starting point is 00:12:25 and it looks spectacular on both. I've only played through it once because it's quite the same guys who did Uncharted. It's the same. Yeah, right. And then they remastered it for the PS4. And it looks spectacular on both. I've only played through it once because it's quite harrowing. Yeah, right. But it's not an escort mission because she's quite talented and you don't really have to worry about it. Do you play as both of them at some point? Spoiler alert. Oh.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Yes. But there's also DLC where you can, if you bought it now, it would be included. Oh, yeah, right. Which I only played like maybe a year ago. I played the DLC for you can, if you bought it now, it would be included. Which I only played like maybe a year ago. I played the DLC for it because I'd never played it. But it's mostly him. But the new game seems to be her, but I'm sure that you'll switch it up.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Yeah, right. Because she's older in the newer one. Speaking of spin-offs, did you see the trailer for Half-Life Alyx? Oh yeah, it's a VR. Which is a reality, yeah. Yeah, I'm not. I mean, it looks good, but who is?
Starting point is 00:13:04 I don't have a nobody does that i think people do yeah but i i've never invested in in one of those have you no no i don't think i mean you know you can always get the maybe you can't i don't know you just you plug your phone into the box you put on oh i've got one of those do they work for these sort of things no because it's like you need like the proper pc yeah whatever yeah no i would i never really i never played it really it's like you need like the proper PC whatever. No, I never played it really. Did you play it? I played the original Half-Life games, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:29 I got the Orange Box once and I played through the first one and then I just kind of didn't get around to it. Yeah, I mean it's interesting that Valve, the company that made them, now because they created Steam, they just make money hand over fist doing not a lot. It's fascinating to me they would make a game at all. Is this even them, Valve? No, it is them.
Starting point is 00:13:46 It is, right. Because they own it. Because it seems they just completely lost interest in making video games because they just put literally anything on the Steam store. It's an absolute shit show, that Steam store. Oh, I'm aware. Yeah. Just the junk that they put up on there.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Just, you know, like asset flips where people just buy a bunch of cows and then just put them in a field and, like, you get a shotgun and it's called Cow Killer or whatever, and then they'll sell it for however many bucks and there's a million of those. Yeah, right. And nobody removes them because there's nobody watching it. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:14:14 So it's just this never-ending nightmare. Well, time to go back in the never-ending nightmare for Half-Life, Alex. That's what I say. Once you get a VR thing. Yeah, and that's the thing. I do like it. And for a lot of people it's also like, okay's what I say. Once you get a VR thing. Yeah, and that's the thing. I do like it. And for a lot of people it's also like, okay, do I – I've got to set this up and then move my coffee table.
Starting point is 00:14:31 It's getting better where you can just get a free headset that's not tethered to the wall. Yeah, right. So the tech is, yeah, definitely improving, but I want to play that Vader Immortal game. Have you seen that? Yeah. And there's a few other things that I've kind of –
Starting point is 00:14:43 there's nothing that I'm like, I'm sink money into this well that's the thing and this it looks kind of interesting and like a vr game is often especially like a first person shooter is like you know impressive generally but also it's not a sequel to half-life 2 that's what people it's also fascinating to me because that's what people want people on half-life 3 because the second one ended on a cliffhanger not a cliffhhanger, but like, now we're going to go kick some alien ass. Yeah. It's one of those kind of things. And people have been waiting for more than a decade at this point
Starting point is 00:15:12 for a continuation of that. And they're like, this is the story of Alex before she met Gordon Freeman, blah, blah, blah. Terrific. Does the second one start where he gets off the train or is it the first one that starts with him getting off the train? The first one starts, he's getting off the train. Okay. Which is's getting off the train okay which is the one with the friendly hen head crab is that the second one that's the second one okay i have like the second one i know i haven't finished
Starting point is 00:15:31 the second one starts you get you at the end of the first one spoilers for whenever half-life a million million years ago at the end of the first one this guy uh this alien in a like a human suit basically is like do you want to come work for me and he puts you in i don't know hyper sleep or something like that and then when you wake up earth's already been destroyed he's like time to do some stuff and you're like couldn't you have unfrozen me several years ago when i could have done something about this i'm ready to go right yeah it's one with the gravity gun right yes yeah gravity guns maybe they can make another portal as well i really like those games. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Okay, as someone who has played it, what would set this apart from every other zombie TV series and movie? Well, it's very character-driven. Because if you're not playing it, you're just watching it. You do the character stuff well. And people have said just cast Hugh Jackman or cast Carl Urban. I think it would be a good choice. I'm always also fascinated by,
Starting point is 00:16:27 do Carl Urban and Hugh Jackman get any say in this? No. They just get a letter in the mail and it's like, you're the guy from Last of Us now. And they're like, oh, I've got to research whatever this is. Oh, my God. People are going to ask me endless questions about this thing I don't know anything about. It's my favourite thing.
Starting point is 00:16:43 You a fan of the video games? No, but I've become a fan You can just say no It's fine Hugh Jackman goes to his mailbox He opens the letter He's outside He opens the mailbox
Starting point is 00:16:51 And he's like You've been drafted Into The Last of Us And then he just looks up And he sees all these Video game fans Like in hoodies In the bushes
Starting point is 00:16:59 Outside his house And he's like They already know He runs inside real quick And he just googles The Last of Us He's like Deb do you know anything About The Last of Us? And he's like they already know he runs inside real quick and he just googles the last of us he's like deb do you know anything about the last of us and she's like no i'm 50 i don't know anything about the last of us yeah great stuff yeah anyway we got a first look at the batmobile we did uh i love it i think it's great a lot of people are down on it but you know why that is because it's a new pop culture thing oh Oh, yeah. And everybody hates everything. That's why I'm down on it.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Right? I said I loved it. I don't love it. I hate it, Mason. No, I do like it. Here's the thing. I think what's interesting about it is that it looks quite similar in my eyes too. And I'll look it up.
Starting point is 00:17:35 It's got shades of a few things, including the 60s Batmobile, it seems. It does. And it looks to me quite a lot like in the 80s and 90ss norm breyfogle the late norm breyfogle was the artist on batman and he's his version of the batmobile oh yeah it's kind of like uh yeah it's like a it was based on a maserati apparently it's quite sleek uh and and what people i feel just pulled the engine out of it so you can see it right dangerous yeah what i think people because we've seen so many versions of the batmobile at this point that are all tanks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:07 We forget the Batmobile is supposed to be a car. It's a car, isn't it? Yeah. It's mostly a car. And this is supposed to be set. This is a Batman year two or three. Yeah. So why wouldn't it be a car?
Starting point is 00:18:15 Why can't you have an 18 foot long Batmobile? Right? You did the Tim Burton one. Oh my God. How long would it take to turn around a corner? I'm not surprised. Use the grappling hook. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:18:24 I'm also not surprised it's this because james james james yes yes imagine that that batmobile it's going in the car wash it's going in the car wash of the service station it's gonna shoot out the grappling hook gonna go around the corner okay james james james imagine that version of the batmobile he gives the keys to a valet he's gonna valet park the batmobile you're like that's the button for the grappling hooks. And you're like, why is there grappling hooks? Just press it if you need it. You'll know.
Starting point is 00:18:50 You'll know. You'll know when you try to turn it. You're about to crash your ability. Well, that's the thing as well. It's obviously they've gone more practical than a lot of the stuff that they've had. Yeah. Because even the, I like the Justice League one,
Starting point is 00:19:02 aside from the million guns on it. But this is like stripped back way way more so it's it's a car you probably see him do some gear shifting yeah you know i mean he doesn't have to climb in through the roof or whatever yeah for a lot of these ones oh my god when was the last time we saw a batmobile but he didn't come in through the roof i feel like one of them opened up at the side like a delorean but, but I might be imagining. Maybe one of the Schumacher's did it? Schumacher ones? I think that's still the roof.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Yeah. The Tumbler was the roof, right? Yeah, and even the 60s Batmobile. It had doors, but it also had an open roof. I think they just leapt into it, yeah. Imagine taking that to the car wash. They'd be like, do you have a roof for this? And you'd be like, I don't have a roof for this.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Oh, my God. But if you get the seats wet, I'll kill you. Yeah, that's right. I'm the 60s Batman, and I'm a murderer, I think. He's an inadvertent murderer. Yeah, he doesn't know. He doesn't know what he's doing. But no, I like it.
Starting point is 00:19:51 And I think having seen the suit and the bike and the picture of Colin Farrell and whatever, this is very much in line with what we've been getting. For sure. I think if we had have gotten very specifically comic book versions, like the Ben Affleck one, and then we had got this, it maybe would have been a weird fit. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:20:09 But I think it seems to fit the universe. And, again, I think it'll change as the movies progress. Yeah, yeah. And it looks a little Blade Runner as well, I feel. But maybe that's just the lighting. It's all the smoke. Yeah, it's the smoke. Or the mist.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Or the fog. Speaking of Ben Affleck, did you see Ben Affleck's... He did his... GQ something. GQ something. Something in my eye. I was talking to you before the show about this because I didn't realise that Vanity Fair do this and GQ do this.
Starting point is 00:20:33 They just talk about every movie you've been in or whatever. Yeah. But you said it's the same company. It's the same company. It's the same publishing company, yeah. Do you reckon they're rival websites with like the son of a bitches over at GQ? They've got Affleck.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Yeah, but we've got Harrison Ford, so... Also, GQ doesn't do the line, like the timeline graph. bitch is over yeah yeah but we got harrison ford so also gq doesn't do the line like the timeline graph oh yeah that's right so they're just like whatever yeah yeah batman superman whatever yeah so really makes you think yeah i thought that was really interesting he looks well as well he does that's good yeah and he was quite open about and he was like i enjoyed making he was like i enjoyed making these movies batman v superman much more than justice league sure yeah i mean that was also around the time of the divorce and like clearly he'd started drinking again a lot of things were going on so yeah i can understand that and i like that he was just like i probably i'm not really into this so i'm not going to do it
Starting point is 00:21:18 because there's someone who would want to do it yeah right exactly like a lot yeah yeah yeah and there was some interesting insights on like him working with Kevin Smith and stuff like that, which was really interesting. Yeah, which all led into him directing. Yeah, I do want to see Slam Dunk, but not The Booze. Yeah, 100%. Which is now an IMDb trivia. Yeah, somebody put it up there.
Starting point is 00:21:36 If you go to The Way Back on IMDb and you click on the trivia tab, it also says, did they? No, The Way Back. That means you have to go. Is that what you mean? Like The Way Back Machine? No, the movie The Way Back That means you have to go Is that what you mean? Like The Way Back Machine? No, the movie The Way Back
Starting point is 00:21:47 Oh, that's what it's called The movie's called The Way Back I thought you were talking about If you go to Because someone had deleted From the trivia So I thought you were saying The Way Back Machine
Starting point is 00:21:53 No, as far as I can know It's still there You go to the movie The Way Back And you go to the trivia tab And it says also known as Slam Dunk but not LeBuz So it's pretty good
Starting point is 00:22:03 Terrific Let me be clear anyone can add trivia to that oh excellent obviously yeah right yeah no one looks at that either because often because i'll scan it for when we do a caravan of garbage or a commentary or whatever and a lot of it's doubled up or contradictory like nobody's nobody's checking that good yes ruin it everybody yes uh jurassic world is getting a spin-off series. Did we know that already? No.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Oh, there is one. There's an animated one. This is a different one. What was the thing we saw a while back? That was the short film. That was a precursor to Jurassic. Well, then this is big news, James. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:22:37 This is huge news. Via the Jurassic Outpost site. Uh-huh. I always wonder about specific fan sites like this and this one and the Indiana Jones one and your Twilights or whatever. How much play do these get over time? If you own this, do you own several others about other properties?
Starting point is 00:22:54 Really good question. Do you think there's some sort of gossip mogul out there? Just chewing up all the very specific sites. Obviously this is a huge property, but Jurassic Park wasn't a thing for like 15 years, you know, at one point. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:08 So anyway. Apparently it's going to be in the same country. You just want to know about this person, right? Yeah, what are you up to? Right? What did you do for that 15 years? It'll be set in the same continuity as Jurassic World and the site goes under claim.
Starting point is 00:23:19 You'd hope so. Yeah, that's right. This is set in a parallel universe. It's like Jurassic World, but it's not Jurassic World. The dinosaurs are people and vice versa, you know. Oh, my God. That's a bad idea. It's basically the Mario Brothers movie.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Yeah. That's what they've done. Oh, it's that parallel universe. Yeah, it's that one. A bad one. The site goes on to claim that this show will likely debut on the Peacock streaming service in 2021 or 2022. I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Never heard of that. Oh, it'll be NBC. Yeah, well, that makes sense, doesn't it? It's the Peacock, probably, yeah. Sure, okay, great. That's another one that we have to get, or it won't come here at all, which is really exciting. Oh, 100% it will not, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:51 We'll get it on Foxtel, probably. Yeah, because I will steal it. You can sort of guess, I feel like, whenever somebody's like, here's a new premium cable, whatever, a premium streaming service, you can sort of guess based on the content where it's going to go. Like in Australia, is it going to appear on Australian Netflix? Is it going to appear on Stan? Because it's going to be stuck on cable and we'll never watch it.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Who knows? Yeah. What have they got at the moment? They've got Westworld at the moment, don't they? Yeah. It's coming back soon. They can keep you Game of Thrones. I don't want it.
Starting point is 00:24:17 That's right. I don't want it. Yeah. Isn't it amazing that was the biggest show in the world and everyone's just like, fuck that show. Everybody's just universally like, no, they really do. If you hadn't mentioned it just now, I would have gone the rest of the week not thinking about it at all. Never would have crossed my mind.
Starting point is 00:24:32 It was the biggest show in the world for like six years. That's right. And then they botched the ending and everyone's just like, forget it. That's what you get, Game of Thrones. That's what you get. I wonder how this show's going to look, though, this on streaming service. I mean, things look good now, don't they? They sure do.
Starting point is 00:24:47 They're probably pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. I've got a video this week, actually, on how green screen is kind of being phased out for this new LED technology. Yeah, right. Like, you know, big screens and such. Yeah, for the Mandalorian. Yeah, but I could go through, like, because it used to be, like, rear projection, and then it was green screen, and then it's kind of shifted to this.
Starting point is 00:25:03 But now it's live backgrounds or something, right? Yeah, it's really fascinating. It's being rendered live or something like that? I did a video on it. Can you add stuff in real quick? Yeah, you can. Anyway, you can watch a video if you want. So somebody could be filming The Mandalorian
Starting point is 00:25:14 and then they could just throw in like a train coming out. It's not so much like that. You need to have the final render like the 24 hours before. Okay, I'm just leaving the trains, all right? But if it's landscapes and stuff. Yeah, have a train coming through. No, but you can shift mountains in the background. Oh, they put a train through.
Starting point is 00:25:29 There's no trains in The Mandalorian for one, Mason. There is. It's a space western, not a regular western. What about Rogue One? They don't have a train in it. No, you're thinking of Solo. Oh, yeah. And it was a space train.
Starting point is 00:25:39 It's true. It doesn't make any sense. Why'd they have a train in there? They've got spaceships. I mean, don't fall down that rabbit hole. The rabbit hole. I just realised that Star Wars doesn't make any sense. Why'd they have a train in there? They've got spaceships. I mean, don't fall down that rabbit hole. The rabbit hole. I just realised that Star Wars doesn't make any sense and now I hate it.
Starting point is 00:25:50 There we go. And I don't... What do you mean hyperspace can be... You can shoot it in another ship or whatever. What do they do that in every movie or whatever? My favourite this time around was the guys who were like, why do those things have wheels on them? With the speeders.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Why do the AT-ATs have legs? Yeah, exactly. It doesn't make any sense. Just sometimes things have legs. Why would you plant the AT-ATs so far away? Yeah. You plant them up close. Right. Just walk them in. Why not just trade them all in for a big bomb? Yes. Hey, I've got this Star Destroyer. Should I put some
Starting point is 00:26:19 walkers on it? Nah, just more big bombs, I reckon. Drop the bombs. As many as you can fit. Yeah. Do you want legs on the bombs? No, I don't want legs on the bombs. I'm the captain of the Star Destroyer. I've worked my way up the ranks of the Imperial Navy, but I sound like this. How do I do it? I must be very competent.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Because I'm certainly not charismatic. What's wrong with my voice? Anyway, more bombs, please. Star Trek news. Or not Star Trek news. Oh, what? Simon Pegg talked to Games Raider He said
Starting point is 00:26:47 He was very frank about how the movies They're not making anymore Of his versions anyway He said They don't make Marvel money They make maybe 500 million at the most Which is true The biggest movies make that
Starting point is 00:26:59 And he said And they cost 200 million And you gotta make three times that to make a profit And I don't feel like the last one, they didn't really take advantage of the 50th anniversary. The regime at the time dropped the ball in the promo for the film and they've lost momentum because of Anton Yelchin. And that was a huge blow to the family and our enthusiasm.
Starting point is 00:27:16 So he's like, I don't know. Is there going to be another one? That is very frank. Yeah. So presumably, no, because he's very much like, no, they fucked it. Because he wrote the most of the last one. Yeah, or a lot of it, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:28 That's the best one, I think, of the new ones. So, yeah, okay. Well, I mean, that makes a lot of sense. Again, the Star Trek movies, because we watched Generations quite recently. Boo. It's coming up on Tuesday, actually. Oh, good. I feel like those came out in the era where you could make a movie
Starting point is 00:27:45 on the smell of an oily rag budget kind of thing. Maybe it looked like it costed no money. Right, and also a lot of those Star Trek, like the next-gen Star Trek movies, often used reused sets from other stuff and old episodes of the TV series. They're like, oh, we've got this control panel, let's just move it in.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Got this old uniform, whatever. Exactly, yeah. So I feel, and now... Less aliens and more like just drawing lines on a dude's head or whatever. Exactly. And being like, he's immortal. And you're like, well, the lines do make him different from a regular man. So I guess that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Yeah, and that was like an era where you could make a movie for $50 million. But I guess now you're not allowed to. No, you're not allowed to, Mason. It's $1 million and then a $200 million movie. And they, as we discovered in Doing Generations, they used that same Klingon warbird explosion that they used in every movie from the 80s. It's in most of those movies somehow.
Starting point is 00:28:32 And then it was in 94, they went, yeah, we'll just use that again, who cares, I guess. There is some stuff they put money into in that movie, but the big finale is just old men running around a rock face. Rough housing, yeah. Which is what it was in the 60s as well. That a rock house. Rough housing, yeah. Which is what it was in the 60s as well. That's all it was. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Upon the second watching of that for me, it was very reminiscent. So could we do it? I mean, does that mean that there is now, does that clear the pathway for Tarantino's version? Because he could do it on the cheap. Definitely. Like relative to a $200 million movie, I'm sure he would
Starting point is 00:29:05 relish you know being knowing quinn knowing qt as well as i do i feel he would absolutely relish just putting down styrofoam rocks yeah and cardboard control panels and whatever and just have them running around swearing i can imagine him just doing being like this is like just doing another captain kirk 1960ss continuation of just the show. That's what I'm thinking, yeah. So you mean even in that era? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Because there was supposed to be a fourth season or whatever it was
Starting point is 00:29:31 that they never made. Third season, yeah. The season that became the movies. Yeah, it was going to be, they ended it, wait, maybe it was the fourth season. It was one of them. Yeah, I think they were. I think Roddenberry did one and two and then left on three. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Yeah, they were going to cancel it after two, then they got a third, and then they were like, we're going to do another season, but it didn't work out. So then they were like, we're going to do Star Trek II, which is a new season, and then it became Star Trek, the motion picture. Eventually. One of the worst ones.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Yes. Well, actually, I remember where I heard this. Movies with Mikey. Have you seen him? No. He's on YouTube. He's really good. He recently did one, like, in the history of Star Trek,
Starting point is 00:30:04 or the first half, on Gene Roddenberry, and his kind of checkered past and all of those things and the start of how Star Trek began. Star Trek. Star Trek, they said. Did he call it Star Trek? Okay, right. There's a train in it, the thing that you love.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I do. It's really good. So people should definitely check that out. It's a recent video that he did. Hey, Mason, Star Wars news. Oh, yeah. Did you hear the Star Wars novelization has come out should definitely check that out it's a recent video that he did hey mason star wars news oh yeah uh did you hear the star wars novelization has come out or is coming out and the rise of skywalker and there's sites that are drip feeding new information so it's not out yet it may be i
Starting point is 00:30:36 don't know i haven't read it and i won't but well you definitively if it's not out you can't read it no but if it was out i still all i know about it. All I know about this is, because I've heard about this on Twitter, as I understand it, the reveal this time around of the endless reveals about the Rise of Skywalker that are meant to make us enjoy the movie more, but it's making everybody enjoy the movie less, is that... I think it's just making people remember the movie, which is upsetting them. So spoilers for Rise of Skywalker if you haven't seen it at this point. Yeah. The revelation of Rey is that her father was the son of Emperor Palpatine
Starting point is 00:31:10 and a woman who we don't know anything about. But apparently the reveal in the novel is that the man who is her father wasn't actually the son of Palpatine but just a clone of Palpatine. Okay. But he wasn't, like, good at being Palpatine. Yeah, right. So if you make a clone of Palpatine. Yeah. Okay. But he wasn't like good at being Palpatine. Yeah, right. So if you make a clone of Palpatine. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:29 So he's just Palpatine again. They get their own brains because it also was revealed among the many reveals. Like the kiss wasn't a romantic kiss. It was like a kiss of acknowledgement and friendship. Okay, sure. Didn't feel that way. Didn't look that way. Have you ever kissed anybody like that?
Starting point is 00:31:41 No. Anyway. But it doesn't matter though. That's the thing. Like why change that? They loved each other. So what? They did. Okay, whatever. Anyway. But it doesn't matter though. That's the thing. Why change that? They loved each other. So what? They did.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Okay, whatever. Just lean into it. Anyway, the Emperor was a clone because we didn't really know what... So the Emperor we saw in the movie,
Starting point is 00:31:57 he was a clone of the previous Emperor but he'd be gone all scabby. Because when he felt there's an extract that somebody posted, again, if the book is out or not. Or if this is real. Or if it's real, where he's falling down the Death Star he felt there's a, there's an extract that they, somebody posted again, if the book is out or not,
Starting point is 00:32:05 or if this is real, it's real, where he's falling down the death star shaft. He's like, how did this happen? Kind of thing. He's got a monologue and then he's like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:32:13 pretty much. And he's like, luckily I've got a plan for this. I've got a body already waiting for me or whatever, but it's not quite ready. And which is why it's all, and he's trapped in it and it's dying. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:21 And then he's transferring his spirit into it. but also like, he's in it for 30 years. So it's not really dying at about the same rate he was dying anyway. He could clone several Snokes in that. Yeah, he had a Snoke tank. That's true, he did. And a Snoke stack for all the effluent that comes out of a Snoke.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Absolutely. All the Snoke sting comes out of a Snoke stack. If he needs a Snoke break, he just grabs one. That's right. He steps outside, there's a quick Snoke break. All the snook stink comes out of the snook stack. If he needs a snook break, he just grabs one, steps outside, has a quick snook break. That's right. Snook alarm. There's another one. If a snook gets out.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Yeah, for sure. It's in the roof. It's real annoying. You've got to get your lightsaber out. You've got to tap it. You've got to tap the button to switch it off. Remember to get your snook alarm's battery changed. Don't forget.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Don't forget.'t forget every six months or something what we talk about oh yeah so so this would suggest that when you make a clone yeah it can either be an empty headed clone yep or you can make a clone that's its own guy that can run about it's a separate clone i assume and i do not know that the one that's him yes but young was a baby like they did in the clone wars right okay and then the other one they made they went what if we also made one that's a hundred years old i mean what okay how about this what if the what maybe what happens is if you clone somebody, the clone could grow up to be a separate person
Starting point is 00:33:49 unless you stick your soul in it. Yeah, that's possible. And then it takes it over. So maybe both of these clones could have been and had their own lives and families and letterboxes. Yeah. But then Palpatine sticks his spirit into it. Yeah, he's's like I got ya
Starting point is 00:34:05 Yeah and then he's In the body But then the other one ran off You have to get a letterbox He didn't Yeah he had a Snoke alarm But he didn't have her That's right
Starting point is 00:34:13 My son is a clone alarm It's also possible I'd imagine Because if he wants to rule forever Yes It would be suspicious If he didn't die Where he just
Starting point is 00:34:22 Grew another body And went this is the new Senator coming up And he's going to take over Again it worked for Lex Luthor It did didn't die, where he just grew another body and went, this is the new senator coming up and he's going to take over. Again, it worked for Lex Luthor. It did, didn't it? Exactly. Anyway, so it's whatever. Good, I guess.
Starting point is 00:34:35 But doesn't that also mean that, I don't know what it means, but doesn't it just mean that if he could just transfer his brain into an emperor clone, why couldn't he just transfer his brain into an emperor clone, why couldn't he just transfer his brain into a Rey clone as well? Well, it said that he was trapped in the body of this dying one for whatever reason. Because of the claw. Yeah, the claw had him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Yeah. But then when he sucked the powers out of them, he's like, oh, the two become one. And his clothes changed. Did they? To like beautiful red velvet robes. Oh, yeah, I remember that. And then he had all the scars in his head. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I don't know. It's a good movie, though. Yeah. No, I disagree. Disagree. Something, though. No, I was just kidding. That was a trap.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I trapped you. Yeah. But you know what, though? People do like it. And that's fine because Star Wars is whatever you want it to be. And you can like whatever amounts of it that you want or none which seems to be the case no there's no but you must you must have some opinion on them though yeah you're right yeah yeah because if you don't you're
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Starting point is 00:36:30 Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Last bit of news, Mason. Bond news. Bond. It turns out there's plenty of time for you to get your affairs in order. That's right. If you're on the way out, is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:36:48 If you are dying and you need more time. To die. To die. You have a bountiful surplus of time in which to die. Say goodbye to your loved ones. That's right. Throw a party or two. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Write some letters. Put them in your mailbox. That's right. Because there's quite a lot of time to die. There's quite a lot of time to die Because it's been delayed Yeah The new Bond film Was supposed to be out next month
Starting point is 00:37:08 And now till November Because of the coronavirus Which is ruining everything Yep Thanks a lot coronavirus Why can't you be like the swine flu virus That went away Didn't it
Starting point is 00:37:18 This will also go away Yes but it hasn't gone away yet Mason That's true If you're listening to this the day that this comes out Then you know that to be true. That is very true. Yeah. Presumably this is a financial decision
Starting point is 00:37:28 because that's the only reason why anybody does anything. Oh, because nobody's going out to the movies because... Or they suspect that it might not be. Yeah, right. They think also it might cost them in the long run because, you know, you shift a movie date and things change and marketing budgets... They've already been gearing up to this
Starting point is 00:37:42 and then they've got to gear up again. And maybe you... I'm sure a lot of... The wind gets taken out of it. Yeah, and I'm sure a lot of the time they're like, okay, we're going to put it right here because there's no other competition for the movie. And then you put it in November and someone else is out.
Starting point is 00:37:53 There was something around that time that I can't remember what it is, but it's pretty big also. Is it the coronavirus vaccine? Yeah, it's coming back. Because people will be going to that. They'll be going to the coronavirus vaccine. It's really exciting. Getting the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:38:03 And then people will be like, why isn't anybody seeing James Bond? What would you say? New be going to the coronavirus vaccine. It's really exciting. Getting the vaccine. Can't wait to get it. They'll be like, why isn't anybody seeing James Bond? What would you see? New James Bond or the coronavirus vaccine? Oh, tough one. His last outing is James Bond.
Starting point is 00:38:14 That's true. And he probably could survive the coronavirus. But it might be my last outing of me being alive. Yeah, but you're
Starting point is 00:38:19 in the age bracket where you probably, and you also, you don't have like an ailment. You know what they should do, team up. You get the coronavirus vaccine and a digital download.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Perfect. Right? Which James Bond movie did he have coronas in it? Or did they just make him film an ad separately on a boat? Oh, yeah. I can't remember. It might have been Quantum. Might have been around Quantum.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Yeah, might have been that. I think, yeah. So there you go. I'm kind of disappointed, to be honest. Well, thank you very much to one of the listeners. I've got his name here I listen to this in the edit That's not you
Starting point is 00:38:48 But I think on the previous Episode I mentioned how much I would enjoy if the final 40 minutes of This movie No Time to Die Was in fact just The Aston Martin spinning around For 40 minutes just spinning
Starting point is 00:39:05 and shooting with the james bond thing exactly uh and this from uh listener pooj who uh who put it up on youtube uh and it's it's just that straight up what you should definitely do if you just go to youtube it's on my twitter page but if you just go to youtube look up aston martin 40 minutes it's the first result as you might imagine is that really really? Yeah, I think so. Wow. And look, if you're at work, just turn your speakers on your computer all the way up. Just way up. Yeah, it's there.
Starting point is 00:39:33 2,000 views. There you go. Not bad, Mason. Well, this will give us 2,005 views. No, it will. No dislikes. Oh, wow. No dislike yet.
Starting point is 00:39:42 There you go. Done. 221. Very good. Good times. This is from Brad I didn't get a like yet. There you go. Done. 221. Very good. Good times. This is from Braden Cooper. A quick question here. Can you see any more big films besides 007 being delayed because of the coronavirus?
Starting point is 00:39:54 Oh, maybe. Because we've got a Black Widow I think is still happening. Quiet Place is still happening. Bloodshot is out this week. That's still happening. That's right. How do you think that's going to do? Considering I had no, until someone on the planet broadcasting great mates facebook group pointed it out i had no idea
Starting point is 00:40:08 that it was coming out next week that it was on the way do you think it's gonna hell boy as in like yeah maybe people won't know it's out also as many people on the internet have pointed out why would you build like a genetically engineered nanite super soldier out of a guy who's in his 50s you know did he yeah i don't know well is he in his 50s though i mean yes yeah but like in in the reality they're like he's 35 or whatever he's not 35 yeah but he is isn't he he is not i'm putting a line in the sand right here he's not a 35 year old man yeah well look i didn't know i didn't if they invulnerable, impenetrable nanites, it doesn't matter who you put them in.
Starting point is 00:40:46 How old you are, that's true, yeah. It doesn't matter, does it? That's right, yeah. There's no age restriction on it. It's like having money. You can date whoever you want, whatever age you are. If you've got a lot of money, it doesn't matter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Anyway, that's coming out next week, but I had no idea, so surprise everyone. That's not going to do well. It wouldn't surprise me if they delay. They're going to delay things in China because they have to because they're shutting down literally everything and quarantining everyone. So the movie industry is going to take a huge hit this year because of that.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Because I know my dad's just legs and we're elves or whatever came out this week. Not here apparently. And it was a slightly lower turnout than what they expected and people think they may be in the coronavirus and people staying at home. So who's to say really? But off the back of that. I was going to say just before,
Starting point is 00:41:33 Daniel Craig's had bad luck in terms of Bond movies. Well, Bond movies and situations out of his control kind of ruining his run on Bond in a lot of ways because there was the writer's strike where he and the director had to write scenes themselves or something. Yep, exactly. And this, a virus. And that means he has to sit on the shelf for him for six months and he has to talk
Starting point is 00:41:54 about it for another six months. Oh my God. Because he also did- And then the rest of his life they're going to be asking him questions about it. And the rest of his life. Because he just did SNL as well. Yeah, yeah. He's going to have to keep doing SNL.
Starting point is 00:42:04 He's going to have to keep doing SNL. He's going to have to keep doing it every week. I've seen some clips. He's good. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, he seems like he has a sense of humor about himself. He's going to keep having to hear that announcer go, Daryl Hammond. He's trapped in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Okay, I don't know who Daryl Hammond is. It's the guy who was on SNL. He did like a Clinton impression. Oh, all right. He didn't get any movies? I don't think so. Okay, good on him. I'm glad. I mean, being on TV, it's a big deal impression. All right. He didn't get any movies? I don't think so. Okay. Good on him.
Starting point is 00:42:26 I'm glad. Being on TV, it's a big deal. That's right. Not for Daryl Hammond. Fucked if I know who he is. Anyways, mate, good on him. Norm MacDonald. I know Norm MacDonald.
Starting point is 00:42:37 You know Norm MacDonald. Of course I do. So off the back of this, we thought, why not talk about long delayed movies? Yeah. We've got a string of them here. We've done our research, haven't we, Mason? We've crunched the numbers. These are movies that also have to have come out.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Okay. So not currently in development. So we can't say The New Mutants. Okay. Because it looks like it's coming out. I mean, we have said The New Mutants now. Yes. It's too late to not say it.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Because I think we need some kind of rating system, and I've knocked one up here. I've workshopped it just with my wife. Okay, I'm excited to hear it. I've spoken to some friends. And what did your wife think of it? It's worth it or bluff it. So if it's no good, you're like, bluff it.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Very good. What do you think? What did your wife think? I didn't. That was just me. I didn't workshop it. What did your friends think? Nobody.
Starting point is 00:43:19 It was just me. Just you? Okay, right. What do you think? I love it. And that's worth all your wives and all your friends as far as I'm concerned. So I don't think Quantum was delayed. I was going to say we could talk about the writer's strike.
Starting point is 00:43:32 There was stuff delayed and cancelled, but there was a lot of stuff that just the writer's strike was happening and it just powered on through and then crap stuff came out. Yes. Transformers 2 was in the midst of that and it was abysmal, but I think that would have been about the same. I don't think it would have mattered. Look, I'm sure at the time I thought about that,
Starting point is 00:43:50 but I'm sure I've seen some of that movie since then. It would never have occurred to me that the quality of those movies suffered at one. It took a dip because of a writer's strike. That is definitively the worst one. Yeah, maybe. It's not the weirdest one, but it's the worst one I feel overall. What's the weirdest one?
Starting point is 00:44:08 Four. The one where he's like, check it out, I can bang this girl because of this weird legal loophole. Yeah, that scene. That is not necessary to be in there at all. Or the dragon one. They're all weird. But at least I remember bits from that. But two's just boring and bad. Two's got
Starting point is 00:44:24 Devastator. Oh yeah, that's boring and bad. Two's got Devastator. Oh, yeah, that's boring and bad. Yeah, it is boring. It doesn't even look like Devastator. But then again, nothing looks like anything in that. Anyway, the first one that I came across was The Cabin in the Woods. Do you remember this movie? I do remember.
Starting point is 00:44:35 So this movie came out. It only came out after The Avengers, I think. Yes. Because they're both directed by Joss Whedon. No. Oh, they're written by Joss Whededon no written by Joss Whedon produced by Joss Whedon yes
Starting point is 00:44:47 and written by but that one language I think because nobody involved had enough juice yeah to get it released it was shot in 2009
Starting point is 00:44:55 because when Drew Goddard did it Drew Goddard there we go so when pre the Avengers Joss Whedon produced
Starting point is 00:45:04 made a lot of things that were fan favorites but otherwise nobody watched and it was it consistently amazed me whenever he released anything Serenity again as someone who was a fan of Buffy and Angel and
Starting point is 00:45:20 Firefly and all that sort of stuff every time a new thing came out from Joss Whedon I'm like why do they keep giving you money? Because nobody else is watching these. Yeah. But I guess, you know, it was a name and he also wrote things and wrote four things. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:36 But then the Avengers came out and people were like, oh. And I think that was also a Chris Hemsworth thing as well. Yeah, he's made a billion dollars. He's got some juice. Let's see what else is in the can. And there was the cabin in the woods, which of course has Chris Hemsworth in it. As the jock who's going to save the day.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Save the day, that's right. Also, apparently it wasn't just the, they didn't really know what to do with it, though it did seem to be part of it. It was supposed to be December 2010, and it was delayed a year to convert it to 3D because it was that era. Remember that era? Yeah, sort of. And then, because it was delayed a year to convert it to 3D because it was that era remember that era
Starting point is 00:46:05 yeah sort of and then because it was a year after Avatar and then MGM remember they like bottomed yes
Starting point is 00:46:11 remember when MGM like bottomed out so Lionsgate but now they're back strength to strength with no time to die that's right probably
Starting point is 00:46:19 eventually till they go bankrupt again so June of 2012 it came out eventually so it was supposed to be December of 2010. And you know what? I think it was worth it in the end because I think it's a good movie.
Starting point is 00:46:30 It only made $60 million of a $30 million budget. But it's a good movie. And it's a cult classic as well. Yeah, I think so. I feel like... It's like an Evil Dead kind of... Again, it's one of those movies where I try my best to not spoil it for anyone. If anybody's like, what's the deal with the cappuccino?
Starting point is 00:46:45 Which I'm just like, you should see it. Oh, by the way, I'm sorry to everybody who I spoiled. I spoiled last week. Knives out. Knives out.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Anyway, spoiler alert. Well, I actually, I went back and I edited it out and I re-uploaded the file. So I'm sorry. I'm sure it's been out like four months and look, it's your fault for not seeing it,
Starting point is 00:47:01 but also it's my fault for jumping straight into it. Yeah, that's right. It's your fault for not seeing it, but also it's my fault for jumping straight into it. Yeah, that's right. It's your fault for seeing it. Yeah. Before I ask you to do the thing that you're going to say next, on the back of MGM and also Chris Hemsworth, Red Dawn was filmed in 2009.
Starting point is 00:47:19 It was supposed to release in 2010. So that was a remake of the movie about the Russians invade a ski resort or something. Yes, the Russians invade a ski resort or something. You might be like, well, I don't care if the Russians invade a ski resort, but in America. Yeah, what do you think of that? Right? MGM bankruptcies then restricted the release, so it went to November of 2012, and the film was also significantly re-edited with digital effects,
Starting point is 00:47:45 artists erased all traces of the Chinese insignia, because that was the idea originally, the Chinese were the bad guys. Oh, instead of the Russians. So they wanted to get a release date there. So it was all changed to North Koreans, but despite the changes. Because they don't know that anything's happening. They don't know nothing. Despite the changes, it was never released in China.
Starting point is 00:48:02 So they went out of their way to do it. They should release China's Super Extra Evil Edition on DVD. Exactly, yeah. Just to really stick it to them. What else though, Mason? Well, here's one that I have always been a big fan of, but I've never seen. Look, I've never seen it.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I just enjoy the story of it. And I've never seen it because it's a Terry Gilliam film and I'm always about, I'm always kind of, like I know for a lot of people Brazil is a. I hate, we're talking about this, I hate Brazil. But a lot of people, Brazil's their favourite film. Yeah. But we have both seen it and hated it.
Starting point is 00:48:37 So we're, but Terry Gilliam, since 1989, attempted to make a movie called. The Man Who Killed Don Quixote, which is a sort of a version of the novel Don Quixote, which is essentially about a man who reads too many romantic novels and he goes mad and he decides to bring back chivalry. And he gets the guy who works his field, his farmer who works his fields, and he's like, like you're my squire i'm a knight and you're a squire and let's go off and wander through like the country very python-esque yeah it is very much so and i i understand that
Starting point is 00:49:14 like why this would appeal to him yeah because he's you know one of the pythons but the the variation that they were like were like okay let's instead of the sidekick being sancho panza who's this uh like uh, like the farmer, he's going to disappear quite early on the film and he's going to be replaced by a guy who was from the 21st century who got flung back through time and is now Sancho Panza. And he's like, whoa, what is this crazy possible? But that's not what happens in the newer version
Starting point is 00:49:39 because there's the new one that came out with Adam Driver. Yes. And Jonathan Pryce? Also, Blurfit for Red Dawn. Absolutely Blurfit. Yeah, Jonathan Pryce. Yeah, I think they did a play together, and he played Don Quixote.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Then he went away and came back, and this guy's still doing it. And he's like, what are you doing? Wow, right. I do actually want to watch it. Yeah. So, yeah. And Johnny Depp was in it at one point.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Yeah, initially it was going to be Johnny Depp was in it and Vanessa Paradis, who I think was his wife at the time. Right. And there's also a movie that is famously about. Yeah, so that's famously. So when Gillian made 12 Monkeys, which I like. Yeah, I like 12 Monkeys. You also like James.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Yeah, I do. He got a. He watched the series. Yeah, he got like a filmmaking duo to work behind the scenes and make a making of. And then when he was making the Don Quixote film, he got them again to be like, you should make a making of of this epic adventure.
Starting point is 00:50:33 And this movie was stuck in development hell for so long that they decided to retool their making of into basically a documentary about a movie that was doomed and was never going to be released. And that's called Lost in La Mancha, which I'm actually sort of, now that I've remembered it, I'm like, I'm kind of psyched. Apparently it's very good.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Yeah. But the assortment of, because this was in development for 29 years, from him initially reading the novel and being like, I can make a movie out of that for it to actually come out. Originally it was going to be Sean Connery as Don Quixote. Okay. But Gilliam apparently said, like he was in talks with the production company to do it, but Gilliam objected because Quixote is air and Sean is earth.
Starting point is 00:51:15 That was his. Oh, what? Don Quixote is air and Sean is earth. What the fuck does that mean? That's all the information I have here. But he objected. He's like, no, no, absolutely not. I like Jonathan Pryce, though.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Eventually, it might have been, at one point it was going to be Nigel Hawthorne, who you might know from Yes Minister. Yes, of course. And Danny DeVito was going to be Sancho Panza. I love that. That was a good combo. Nigel Hawthorne died, didn't he, in like the late 90s?
Starting point is 00:51:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the studio, Phoenix Pictures, who did Shutter Island and stuff like that. Okay. So they've been around. They gave him a budget that he thought was too low, so he left. He left to do a movie called The Defective Detective, which also never came out.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Then there was going to be John Cleese as Coyote, Robin Williams as Panzer. Yeah, that makes sense. In the 2000s, an actor named Jean Roquefort was cast as Don Coyote. He spent seven months learning English, so he could be in this movie. Just do it phonetically on the day, man. You'll be fine. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:52:09 And then they were going to get Johnny Depp as the guy propelled through time. The cast was going to include Miranda Richardson, Christopher Eccleston, Jonathan Pryce, who was actually in the real version. So the first location shoot was in a scenic barren area in Spain. Okay. And then the first day of filming,
Starting point is 00:52:28 they discovered that it was right near a NATO military base. So there was constantly like F-16 fighter jets. It was like a military base with a targeting area. So it was like planes flying by and bombs going off or whatever. It'd be like if you were going to buy a house and the real estate agent like toured you around and then you agreed to buy it and then you realised a train went past every 10 minutes or whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Yeah, absolutely. They clearly got tricked into this. It ruined the audio and then Gillian was like, no, I don't care, I'll fix it in post. Which is a bad idea, I feel. Like ultimately, like it never... You got to ADR everything? Yeah, and it never looks right.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Then there was a flash flood on day two. Love it. was pretty exciting so uh and it changed the color of the cliffs so like all the background was a different color so they're like well we can't use any of day one footage anymore we can't use the audio and we can't use the video so we're gonna start again so then it turned out i think that the the film's insurance didn't cover floods oh my god apparently also a lot of the actors had conflicting schedules So then it turned out, I think, that the film's insurance didn't cover floods. Oh, my God. It was an act of God. Apparently, also, a lot of the actors had conflicting schedules. But it was on day one, a couple of actors showed up and were like,
Starting point is 00:53:31 well, I can only do Tuesdays and Thursdays. And another actor was like, well, I can only do Wednesdays and Fridays. And they're like, okay, well, you have scenes together, so what do we do? So that threw it all out of whack. Is that something you've got to sort out before? All of this is something you've got to sort out before. I don't understand. He's done so many movies before this. But that something you've got to sort out before? All of this is something you've got to sort out before. I don't understand. He's done so many movies
Starting point is 00:53:48 before this. But that's not really his job. So surely there's production assistants that have this job. Well, maybe Man of Lost in La Mancha is a good movie to watch. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:56 I think maybe I'll watch it this week. I'm going to find it somewhere. Day five, they got started again. But John Roquefort, again, the guy who spent seven months learning English, showed you'd be in this. There were a lot of scenes where he had to ride a horse and act at the same time he told me this well he was apparently a very able horseman yeah which is you know good uh
Starting point is 00:54:14 but apparently depending on the the version you hear he either had a disc a disc in his back like a damaged ruptured disc in his back discus in his back discus in his back from the nearby olympic village somebody threw a discus in his back or he had like prostate issues painful prostate issues and so every apparently every shot of him riding on a horse like every every shot was just painful banging on all his assorted damaged internal organs so apparently every shot of him was just him like wincing in pain, like every single one. So they're like, okay, well, none of this is usable.
Starting point is 00:54:50 And they just sent it. I had a double herniated disc. So they sent him back to Paris where he's from. They spent a few more days being like, okay, we'll just film stuff with everybody else. And then it was very unclear whether he'd come back. And Gilliam had spent two years trying to cast this guy. This was his dream casting kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Then they eventually cancelled the production and then the insurance, the film's investors were like, we want our money back. So they had to repay $15 million of the budget. Then Johnny Depp pulled out, obviously. Right. Because he's got a million other things to do. This is before he was like Captain Jack Johnny Depp pulled out, obviously. Right. He's got a million other things to do. This is before he was like Captain Jack Johnny Depp as well.
Starting point is 00:55:28 So he didn't have that much going on. But he's just like, do I have to? But I mean, you know, it's, I'm sure he saw the writing on the wall. A hundred percent. Like, I don't want to be doing this for several years. I'd rather do actual proper work. Yeah. And Michael Palin was going to step in and play Don Quixote.
Starting point is 00:55:43 I like that. Robert Duvall was going to be in there. I like that also yeah um johnny depp signed for two disney films and so he was definitely out right okay and it stopped for like 10 years then right yeah yeah yeah uh by 2012 deval was still potentially attached to the film he would have been good yeah yeah yeah well if you're wondering whether it's worth it or bluff it mason got some reviews here okay i'm ready it's it's weird the tomato meter in the audience score is 63%, 64%. Okay, so the critics and the fans are feeling ultimately the same, yeah. There's reviews like a staggering misfire that's both unambitious and bloated.
Starting point is 00:56:15 So after all the heartache, it looks as though Gilliam's dream has turned into something of a nightmare. That's very good, David Stratten. I know David Stratten. Messy and occasional strain. But there is things that like, it's exactly kind of odd reality skimming fantasy you'd expect. But I don't think it ended up being. I knew it was out, but I didn't realize it was two years ago.
Starting point is 00:56:37 I thought it was like three months ago. I honestly had no idea it came out so long ago. I had no idea it came out at all. So, yeah, they did. I mean, is something like that ever going to be I had no idea it came out at all. Yeah. So, yeah, they did. They definitely did. I mean, is something like that ever going to be worth it, really? You know? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:50 I know. Because it's very... I actually do have an example of one on here that I think is worth it. But most of the time... But I am definitely going to watch Lost in La Marche. Oh, 100%. Also, look, I feel like... I don't know. And that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:57:00 It's a real Duke Nukem Forever. Yeah. Or whatever the filmic equivalent of that is. Probably The Man Who Killed Don Quixote. But this is the poster that came out in 2018. What is that? That's nothing. It's a 2002 poster is what that is.
Starting point is 00:57:12 And you don't want to put Adam Driver in the middle of that. Right? Because he's riding high at that point. It looks like a Resident Evil poster. It does, yeah. It looks like the poster from The Count of Monte Cristo from 2002. Oh, my God. Yes, please.
Starting point is 00:57:24 I love that movie. Anyway, that movie's a disaster, so no, good on them. Here's one I got for you, Mason. Okay, I'm ready. World War Z. The budget of that was $125 million and shot in July of 2011. I thought you were going to say shot in Geelong. It was shot in Geelong.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Wow. It's filmed late. Saved by the bay. Then in October of 2011, they filmed the climactic battle of the film set in Russia. I don't know if you remember that movie. It doesn't have a climactic battle set in Russia. It's a climactic scene set near a vending machine. Yes, that's exactly what it is.
Starting point is 00:57:55 But apparently, though, around this time, where it was filmed, the Hungarian Counterterrorism Centre raided the warehouse where the guns had been delivered for using as props in the film. There was 85 assault rifles, sniper rifles and handguns that had been flown into Budapest overnight on a private aircraft. But the film's producers had failed to clear the delivery with Hungarian authorities.
Starting point is 00:58:18 And while the import documentation indicated that the weapons had been disabled, all were found to be fully functional. Oh, no, so real guns. Real guns. Wow. On February 10th, 2012. Was that an accident or were they like, let's fire some real guns?
Starting point is 00:58:30 It says on February 10th, 2012, the charges were dropped after investigators were unable to identify exactly which organisation or person had ownership rights. Therefore, they could not establish which party was criminally liable. Presumably the people who sent the guns, though, right? Or ordered the guns. Yeah, I mean, it depends on the circumstances. But also, if the cops find a bunch of guns in somebody's house,
Starting point is 00:58:50 they're not like, well, there's no receipts for these guns. So I guess, no harm, no foul. They're like, we should probably figure this out. Let's follow a train of evidence and determine it. But they're like, no, we'll just give up, I reckon. Yeah, the balloon budgeted to $190 million. The ending set in Russia was... You mean the budget bloomed?
Starting point is 00:59:09 What did I say? You said the balloon budgeted. The balloon budgeted. Yeah, it did big time. That's the industry speak. You probably don't remember 2012. That's what they used to say. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:59:17 It was 3D. It was a different time. Oh, no, I understand. Sure, sure, sure. Imagine a big 3D balloon kind of... Yeah, right. You know what it's coming out of you on the screen? No, I can't.
Starting point is 00:59:25 I'm too scared of it. So they changed the ending where Brad Pitt drinks a Pepsi or whatever. Yeah, that's right. Which I think works better because apparently he was also like, why don't we make something that's more kind of in line with the character? Because he wasn't like an action man, was he? And it was going to be him like mowing down zombies. He was a handsome doctor or something.
Starting point is 00:59:41 A handsome doctor or something. Also, Paramount changed the scene in the film in which the characters speculate the zombie outbreak originated in China in the hopes of landing a film distribution deal in that country. Oh, yeah. Which didn't happen. Right. So, again, they tried to get it to that market. They pushed it six months to June of 2013,
Starting point is 01:00:00 and it ended up making $540 million. So it did make its money back. And it was going to get a sequel, and then that went to development hell and Brad Pitt left. And I think who was going to do it at one point? They had a really big name attached to it as a director. Spielberg. No, it was...
Starting point is 01:00:15 Darren Aronofsky. It was someone like that. No, it was the guy who did... I've just lost it because you said Darren Aronofsky, and that's all I can think of. Fight Club and whatever. Da Vinci was going to do it at one point. Oh, okay, right, right, right. Yeah. The movie. Da Vinci was going to do it. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Right, right, right. Yeah. The movie's nothing like the book because the book's like a report. It's like a military report about how the outbreak happened. But I think this was worth it in the end, especially monetarily. I know it's not considered like a classic movie. Yeah, but except you remember the scene where he gets the Pepsi. He gets the Pepsi.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Name another thing that happens in that movie. The airplane bit. Where they get to the airplane because- Doesn't somebody get their arm cut off? Remember all the zombies are piling up over the wall? Sort of. Yeah, it's good. Nice. I think it's fine.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I think it's way better than most generic zombie things. I think it's a little bit better than most generic zombie things. Yeah, you're probably right. Yeah, so there you go. But at the same time, I just get a wave of generic zombie stuff. Oh, it's definitely that because they're all CGI zombies and whatever. I think the trailer of The Pile of Zombies really sold that movie. Remember that trailer?
Starting point is 01:01:17 The zombies piling up on each other? Yeah. Is that kind of an overused trope at this point, a big pile of zombies? I think so, yeah. What's next? Small piles of zombies. Oh, yeah, nice. What's next? Small piles of zombies. Oh, yeah, nice. Two to three.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right. To fit in your small house. Yeah, that's right. If you've got a small house living, you know. My wife and I, with my son, we went to a place today and there was two acrobats in this restaurant and one was standing on the side. Wait, wait, wait, slow down.
Starting point is 01:01:42 It was just in a restaurant. It was like a regular restaurant. Where was the room for the acrobats? There was a tall roof down. It was just in a restaurant. It was like a regular restaurant. Where was the room for the acrobats? There was a tall roof. It was like a warehouse. It doesn't seem like a regular restaurant. It seems like a tall restaurant, but carry on. Anyway, there was a person on top of another person.
Starting point is 01:01:52 No, it wasn't. Okay. It was like standing on their shoulders and they were walking around being like, hello, everyone. And they said to my son, like, hello, little boy. And he's just like, I can't deal with this. He just hid behind me.
Starting point is 01:02:01 He's like, I can't even comprehend what is happening here. Didn't want to bar him at Mason. Wow. And quite frankly, I wanted to push them over. Get away from my son! Well, if he'd seen World War Z, he'd be well up for it. He would have seen a big pile, but not a small pile. That's true.
Starting point is 01:02:16 What else, Mason? We talked about the Dick Tracy sequel. Yes, we have. Maybe we have. And it didn't come out. We did. We talked about it at the end of one episode. We did. It's true. And it didn't come out. We did. We talked about it at the end of one episode. We can do it again.
Starting point is 01:02:25 It's true. And it didn't come out, Mason. Yeah. Anyway, whatever. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Oh, because it didn't come out. There's no real rules, Mason.
Starting point is 01:02:34 No, let's move to another. There's no real rules. We'll figure out what episode that was when we talked about it. Okay. Basically, Warren Beatty acquired the rights, and he's always been like, I'm going to make another one. They owe me one. And they're like, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:02:44 It's been 40 years, Warren Beatty. It's been 40 years. You're 150 years old, Warren Beatty. You made the first one, I'm going to make another one. They owe me one. And they're like, yeah, exactly. It's been 40 years, Warren Beatty. It's been 40 years. You're 150 years old, Warren Beatty. You made the first one, you're only 110. Come on. That yellow coat has decayed at this point, you know, and it's too late. Exactly. So the interview, speaking of North Korea being the bad guys.
Starting point is 01:02:59 That is the Seth Rogen. James Franco, Evan Goldberg movie Movie. Where they go and interview. Kim Jong-un. Is that based on a real thing? Maybe. Because I know there was a documentary was made. Was it about Dennis Rodman visiting him? No, but there's a documentary made, I believe, about North Korea
Starting point is 01:03:17 where they were like every time they went to film it, they were like, we're going to review your footage and delete everything that does not appeal to us, the government of North Korea. And apparently the documentary crew were aware of this and they doubled up on memory sticks. So they would double record it and then
Starting point is 01:03:36 they would smuggle out the memory sticks. Very good. That's pretty smart. It said they got the idea in the late 2000s of joking about what would happen if a journalist was required to assassinate a world leader. And in March 2013 it was announced. So it wasn't really delayed. The only thing that happened with this was that they pushed it to a digital release
Starting point is 01:03:54 because the North Koreans were threatening to bomb cinemas and attack the US off the back of this movie. Well, they didn't, did they? They didn't count. It's all of them. Every single one of them. 100%. Yeah, who can't be did they? They didn't count. It's all of them. Every single one of them. A hundred percent. Yeah, who can't be listening to this because of various media restrictions.
Starting point is 01:04:09 I think it's got some good stuff in it. I never saw it. It's fine. I mean, it kind of... It's not their best, but it's... I say worth it, Mason. What do you say? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Well, having not seen it. It's probably on one of the seven streaming services. A hundred percent. Yeah, let's say worth it. Why not? Okay, great. What about Deadpool? the original Deadpool? Yeah, so I've got a few notes on this.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Please. It went into production in the early 2000s with David S. Goyer, who you may recognize from ruining a bunch of stuff. But he also, and some good things, he did some Batman stuff. He's one of those guys that skates through and you don't know. He takes the credit when it's good and he skirts the credit when it's when he skirts the blame when it's bad exactly there was a comic in the early 2000s that mentioned like that he's like dead pulls across between ryan reynolds and a sharp a at one point yeah he was pushed into wolverine as like a backdoor kind of pilot almost
Starting point is 01:05:00 in a way uh and then off the back of that they they were trying to, Paul Wernick and Rhys, I believe, were trying to make it for years and then it just didn't look like it was going to happen. And so Ryan Reynolds leaked to the text test footage, though he'll never openly admit to that,
Starting point is 01:05:14 though he has pretty much openly admitted to that. And then it eventually came out in 2016. Isn't that wild? Yeah. So it was maybe 15 years between when it's starting and when it came out.
Starting point is 01:05:24 I was going to say Watchmen as well because we can do a few comic book ones. Yeah, right. Well, we did a video on that for Caravan of Garbage. We talk about like the 80s versions that was going to come from that. Do you think – so the test footage, the Deadpool test footage, when was that filmed and then when was it released? It's not filmed. It's CGI.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Oh, so when was it made and when was it released? I think that was maybe 2011, 2012 it was made. Okay, right. And it was probably released in 2013. Okay. I'm guessing. Right. Well, that's, I mean, you know, it's good then that it was a fairly recent, you know, CGI production.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Yeah. Anything prior to that could have been. It was also pretty low res as well, the version that came out. Yeah, right. And I don't think it really would have mattered. I think if it had been an animatic, it wouldn't have mattered. I think people would have still been like, well, this captures the feel and whatever. This is what it should be. Yeah. So I don't think it really matters. As longatic, it wouldn't have mattered. I think people would have still been like, well, this captures the feel and whatever. This is what it should be.
Starting point is 01:06:06 So I don't think it really matters. As long as somebody's pointing at their balls. Yeah. And saying, look at my balls. What do you think of that? Speaking of David S. Goyer. Yes. He was the one who kicked off Venom in 1997.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Oh, my God. So that was. That would have been. That was pre. Everything. It was pre-Spider-Man. Pre-Blade even maybe. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Wow. Interesting first choice. Yeah, I mean, he seems like the kind of guy that you would get in the 90s to do a Venom movie. I meant interesting that it's Venom. Venom was huge though. I guess that's true. And Spawn. I know, but pre-Spider-Man.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Yeah, but he was more Spawn than Spider-Man at that point, wasn't he? I guess that's, yeah. Remember everything was crap and gritty or whatever? Yes, I do. There's not a good comic book movie in the 90s. I guess maybe the X-Men. Yeah, X-Men. Is there another one?
Starting point is 01:06:53 What about Blade, technically? Blade 1. Yeah, it's all right. It's good. Yeah, it's okay. If you release that now, you're not getting away with it. No, for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Maybe there is a good one. I know people will be like, what about Meteor Man or whatever? Very good. Good jokes. But is there genuinely a good comic book, a great comic book movie from that era?
Starting point is 01:07:11 Dick Tracy. Was that in the early 90s or was it in the 80s? I don't know. It's just the only thing that's in my head currently. I guess you could. Some people love Batman Returns.
Starting point is 01:07:19 I would argue not great. Yeah. Or even good. I think Dick Tracy came out in 1990. Okay. Let me check. Okay. Give up, Ron. Because it was post-Bat great. Yeah. Or even good. I think Dick Tracy came in in 1990. Okay. Let me check. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Give up, Ron. Because it was post-Batman. Yes. Post-Batman 89 and they're like, we can just do another one. Yeah. This is perfect. Kids will love Dick Tracy. June 1990.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Yeah. And there was also The Shadow as well. Yeah. Which wasn't. We should watch that. Should we? For something. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:42 All right. The knife attacks him. Yeah. I remember. It's a cranky little knife. It's a cranky little knife. It's a cranky little knife. Like, I'm a knife. I'm coming to get you.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Which wouldn't be a problem if it was a regular knife, just to be clear. Yeah. It's a knife that can fly about. That's a major issue. Yeah, if it were a regular knife, you just put it in your bottom drawer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:02 And sometimes it'd be like, if you let me in, I'm going to get you. Like, I won't let you out, will i foil again what if you need a what if you need a bin bag though all the bin bags are in here yeah but you can't fly so even if i open it you're not gonna oh yeah it's a really good point but i'll make a mean face at you i'll just flip i'll flip your face side down. Oh, no. Fool again. Would you hang on to that knife or would you get rid of it? Because I'd always worried it was going to come back. I want to know where it is.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Or it would gain the ability to fly. Yeah. If it's magic. Yeah, I want to know where it is at all times. Because what if I'm just... Here's the thing. It would depend on whether it had a vendetta against me specifically. You think you could reason with it over time?
Starting point is 01:08:42 I reckon if you... Because if it didn't, I'd probably sell it to somebody else out of sight out of mind it wouldn't even worry a few weeks I wouldn't even worry about it you wouldn't use it to like make money
Starting point is 01:08:51 make a YouTube video and be like do you have this fucking knife don't forget to like and subscribe it'd be like the annoying orange
Starting point is 01:08:57 of the annoying little knife yeah exactly oh and we could have him do a novelty single yeah exactly yeah it's the crazy frog but it's a knife.
Starting point is 01:09:05 It's the crazy frog and it's a knife. I'm going to get you. The cranky knife. The cranky knife. I can't fly, but I'll get you. I'll get you. Yeah. You do a rap in the middle.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Yes. Yeah. It'll be good. Okay, let's watch the shadow. Okay. It's not going to live up to cranky knife, but. Definitely not. You got another one?
Starting point is 01:09:28 What about Mad Max Fury Road? I've got so many notes on that. I was going to save that to the end, but I can do it now. Okay, first note. When did Beyond Thunderdome come out? 86, 85, I want to say. And then Mad Max Fury Road came out in? 2015.
Starting point is 01:09:44 2015. Okay, here we go. Thunder Fury Road Came out in 2015 2015 Yeah okay Here we go The Underdome came out This was going to be a big finale 85 Let's end with A Maze Runner movie
Starting point is 01:09:51 How does that sound So Real whimper The idea I mean we should have Ended with Cranky Knife Definitely So he'd lost his passion for
Starting point is 01:10:00 George Miller George Miller For he wasn't I think someone associated With the movies died And he wasn't, I think someone associated with the movies died and he wasn't really happy with the third one. I can't remember the story specifically about it. We've talked about it, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:10:11 In 1995, George Miller got the rights back and the idea came to him in 1998. So he was set to shoot this in 2001, but that was postponed because of September 11, the attacks, not the date. Gibson wasn't coming back at any of this point, apparently. Melvin Gibson. Melvin Gibson was not doing it.
Starting point is 01:10:28 So then it was clean. Classic Melvin move. Isn't it just? I don't want to be part of this franchise. I'm a real Melvin. You could have easily put him in the new one. It would have mattered, I feel. Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't have wanted him in it. No, I think it's better with Tom Hardy. But as a real old grizzle. Yes. Although, I think it would have affected some of the action set pieces, surely. He doesn't really do anything. I mean, everyone does a lot of ridiculous shit in that.
Starting point is 01:10:51 But is there a lot of acrobatic? Because there's a scene set with the war boys kind of driving through the desert and there's a lot of jumping up and down on cars. But does Mad Max do a lot? Presumably not. Yeah, he's mostly just driving. I mean, he does, but it's not him it's not yeah no i know that but i mean would you believe i'm i'm willing to believe i would okay yeah i'm willing to believe a tom hardy but not maybe a gibson yeah that's fair that being said you know it's the apocalypse you do what you can also if
Starting point is 01:11:17 you're over 60 you need that toilet paper oh that i'm saying if you're over 60 you get an action movie everyone gets at least one that's true you gotta get your taken yeah so gibson then i mentioned that wasn't coming back so the film was greenlit uh for may of 2013 but it rained so they couldn't oh that's true yeah there's a location was it filmed this movie was not filmed in australia but it was originally gonna be filmed in australia heath ledger was considered uh to take on the role but uh his death obviously put a crimp in that. Yeah, it did. Put a real delay in there. So that was a rumour, though.
Starting point is 01:11:48 In March of 2009, it was announced that an R-rated 3D animated film was in pre-production and would be taking much of the plot from Fury Road because it was always called Fury Road, or what the idea was behind it. It's always been at its core the same. Then, though, that was changed back to live action. Filming in Broken Hill was to begin in the early 2011. I remember that because that's when I started doing YouTube and I remember reporting on that it was delayed
Starting point is 01:12:11 because it flooded again. Rain stopped playing again, yeah. Like flowers bloomed in the desert. Oh, yeah, right. And whatever. So then it was pushed back. It filmed from June 2012 for 120 days. It then reshoots in November in 2013.
Starting point is 01:12:29 It was moved to Namibia, and then it was finally released in May of 2015. So that is 17 years from the idea. He got it back in 2005, so it's 20 years, I guess. Yeah, right. From go to woe, that whole one. Well, I say worth it. 100%, man. And an astounding... From Go to Woe, that whole one. Well, I say worth it. 100%. And an astounding...
Starting point is 01:12:46 The fact that it's even remotely good, let alone probably the best movie of that year or one of. Yeah. Is that the best movie? It's the best action movie of that year, right? Oh, 100%, yeah. I don't know what I said at the time, but sure. 100%, Mason.
Starting point is 01:13:02 100%. 100%. So there you go. That's all right. I've got another good one I can probably end on. It doesn't have to be a Maze Runner. Do you want to do a Maze Runner one, though? No, I don't know the. 100% Maze Runner. 100%, 100%. 100%. So there you go. That's all right. I've got another good one I can probably end on. It doesn't have to be a Maze Runner. Do you want to do a Maze Runner one, though? No, I don't know the plot of the maze.
Starting point is 01:13:09 You don't need to know the plot of the maze runner. Maze Browser. Maze Browser. I don't know what's happening. I'm being bitten by a tiny little knife. I just need to know the number for the emergency services because my friend James is having a stroke. So Dylan O'Brien, the star of the Maze Runner.
Starting point is 01:13:24 I've seen the first one. It's all right. What's in the maze? Why do they need to go in the maze? Because they're trying to look for a way out of the maze. They run the maze. And if you run the maze, you gun the maze. That's not true.
Starting point is 01:13:36 No. There's not a Minotaur in there. They map it every day. Speaking of Minotaurs. It's like robots and whatever. Oh, okay. So Dylan O'Brien fell from one vehicle into the path of another and he suffered a concussion, facial fractures, brain trauma,
Starting point is 01:13:50 and the production on the film was eventually shut down. They were like, oh, he'll be back on his feet soon, but it was a serious and life-threatening and possibly damage-his-brain-forever movie. Yeah, wow. But he did make a full recovery. So it was moved from, so Feb 2017 was when it was originally going to release to, got pushed to July of 2018, which is, it's incredible that he survived that, let alone recovered
Starting point is 01:14:12 the way that he did. So anyway, the death cure came out and worth it, I say. Yeah, absolutely. That movie, none of us have seen. The second one was the scorch. They're like, you'll never survive the scorch. Oh, scorch trials. Yeah, I ran a camera.
Starting point is 01:14:24 They did, it turns out. And he also survived falling in front of a car somehow. Yeah. It's incredible. Like the bloody falling in front of a car cure. That's what they had. That's right. Medical professionals.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Yeah. I feel you want to talk about AI. I do want to talk about AI. Maybe we'll end on AI because I feel like you bailed me up last week. You're like, I want to talk about AI. It's a movie. Actually, AI was the one I had to end with, actually, to be fair. I've got some other ones.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Just quickly, Fast and Furious 7. Of Death of Paul Walker. Yeah, Death of Paul Walker. Summer of 2014. I was going to segue from Car Crash into this, but I'm like, that's tasteless, isn't it? I'm doing this, so what's this even? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Anyway, so summer 2014. You've really brought attention to it now. Yeah, 2014 to april of 2015 so after paul walker's death obviously they'd filmed some of it and then they had to rewrite it around his character leaving the franchise and also action sequences but they replace him with his brother and digital doubles and old footage and again that movie is incredible that it's it's one of the better ones yeah agreed and revitalize the franchise yeah in my opinion well the one before i feel like you revitalized it in my opinion i feel that was just wait was that five or six the one before now that was seven it was six five was with the rock yes what was six i don't know it doesn't matter no
Starting point is 01:15:40 idea yeah no memory of it did you know jur know Jurassic World, though, was in production since 2001? Not surprising. We should have checked it out at jurassicworld.park.org or whatever that website was. It's just a series of blog posts of that guy going, I'm slowly losing hope that there'll ever be a sequel. Perhaps quite similar to the original. Maybe Chris Pratt will be in it, but I don't know.
Starting point is 01:16:04 I don't know who he is at this point. Darkness is closing in. I hope the female lead wears sensible shoes the whole time. You're doing a really good vibe as well on the keyboard. I'm slowly sliding off the keyboard, falling under the desk. So Joe Johnston, who did the third one, didn't want to return. I didn't know this but Sam Neill Alan Grant
Starting point is 01:16:26 he'd been in number three. He was contracted Which is a bit number two. That's right. Which is what's right? Yeah, it's alright. I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 01:16:35 And he even though he was contracted for three more films he was publicly saying that he couldn't imagine a way for his character to be involved
Starting point is 01:16:44 in another film even though he'd signed onto three three films he just signed it and then he's like hang on a second and they're like too late they snap the briefcase closed and they left and like you're in you're on the hook but he hasn't done three more no but he's in the next one but is he still contracted somehow no that would have lapsed yeah i'm sure. They were probably like, you'll never get another role. You're going to be a pig farmer in New Zealand forever. And he's like, that's what I want. That's good. So the fourth Jurassic Park film at one point,
Starting point is 01:17:14 this is from Wikipedia I should point out, was going to be the last in the series and it would have ignored the events of the previous film. Really? Which I don't think really matters. No. I don't think you could have. Because most viewers ignore the previous film. It's Which I don't think really matters. No. I don't think you could have. Because most viewers ignore the previous film of anything.
Starting point is 01:17:26 It's fine. I think it's fine. It was reported the story would partially involve dinosaurs migrating to the Costa Rica mainland and a team of experts, including Alan Grant, Neil Malcolm, would chart an expedition to an offshore island and discover dinosaurs breeding freely, which I think is also the plot of the first movie a lot of times. Yeah. But do you think they're going to be charting expeditions in the new one?
Starting point is 01:17:46 Because that makes sense. They're like, we're loving dinosaurs in the real world. We're keeping an eye on this. Yeah, probably. And that's Hollywood, isn't it? It's just recycling an old concept. Exactly. Keira Knightley was supposed to be in it.
Starting point is 01:17:58 As a dinosaur? Yeah. You know there was that human hybrid thing? I think that might not actually be an actual thing. Oh, do you think that was just wishful thinking? There's conflicting ideas about where that came from. As far as I'm concerned, there's only one hybrid theory, and that's from Linkin Park.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Yeah. Crawling in my skin. These wounds, they will not heal. So I've just written here, a bunch of shit happened and it was supposed to come out in 2005, back and forth, et cetera, and so forth. Michael Crichton died. That kind of put a damper on the whole thing
Starting point is 01:18:34 because people took that as a sign. And then in about 2011, 2012, they went, hey, there's money in this. We should make it. And they did. And it made a billion dollars. And Michael Crichton's not here to stop us. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Yeah, it made a billion dollars. It was a huge, huge yeah it made a billion dollars it was a huge huge hit i've heard of jurassic world yeah me too and you know why it's such a massive hit because it was of equal quality to every other jurassic movie even the ones you haven't seen correct or especially those ones and all its subsequent movies yes and the short film and whatever's coming out next and the ride probably and the ride probably and the video games probably. And the ride, probably. And the video games. Probably. Some of them, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Do you have any more? I can do AI. Let's talk about AI. You've written your phone booth. Oh, yeah. I do have that. How long was that? It's not a fun one.
Starting point is 01:19:15 Oh, no. Did somebody die? I was just going to talk about World War II, but movies kind of still- World War II? Well, just the- The concept of World War II. That was delayed. Things were delayed and movies were delayed and they postponed the Oscars or whatever.
Starting point is 01:19:27 But they kept making movies. I thought you knew something about World War II being delayed. Look, I don't want to talk about all the things that I know about World War II, Mason. I was going to say something. I'll tell you off air because it sounds really sketchy about... Okay, right. Yeah, about someone I know related to... We'll talk about it after.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Oh, my God. It's actually not sketchy, but it sounds sketchy. Okay. I thought you were going to say that the bombing of Pearl Harbor was stuck in development hell. Very good. I wish the movie was, am I right? Yes.
Starting point is 01:19:58 That's one that we've already talked about, so we never have to talk about it again. We'll never have to talk about it again, nor will we. So Phone Booth was delayed from 2002 to 2003 because I don't know if you remember at the time, Phone Booth is based around a man who goes into a phone booth and a sniper pins him down there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:11 And he's like... I remember being good. He's like, tell your wife you're cheating on her or whatever. Okay. Yeah. And he's like, I won't do it, Kiefer Sutherland. And then he does. And then Kiefer Sutherland's like, how do you know this is me?
Starting point is 01:20:22 And he's like, well, you've got a very recognizable voice. 24, you've got that resurgence going on at the moment. Yeah, I sure do. And I'm springboarding back into movies. I'm Kiefer Sutherland. Then why are you doing this? I don't know. I think of the summer off.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Oh, because there was a sniper. There was a real life sniper attack. In DC maybe? Killed like 11 people. Yeah, I remember that. A pair of dudes did that. Yeah, I remember that. So they delayed it until they caught those people.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Good call. So not a fun story, but just a factual thing. Also, this isn't everything that was delayed, by the way. No. I'm sure we'll get some that are like, I can't believe you didn't talk about it. Why don't you email us your favorite thing that was delayed? Yeah, and we'll read it.
Starting point is 01:20:54 We'll do a special episode just for you that we'll email to you. If you have one that was delayed for many years and you were bang up, you were super looking forward to it, and then it came out and you were crushingly disappointed. Let us know. I'd say people would say that about a lot of Star Wars stuff or Indiana Jones or. Duke Nukem Forever. We could talk about Indiana Jones though, because that's one that was, it was supposed to be, the rumors are like Kevin Costner was going to play his evil brother in the
Starting point is 01:21:17 nineties. And I don't know whether any of that was real. Really? The story was. Why did he never get a mention? I can't remember. It might've been just a rumor that I read in the 90s. I remember reading that in, like, 98 or something.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Oh, I'd be bang up for the evil brother. We would. What do you think the role would... What do you think the evil brother, like what character archetype would the evil brother be? Would it be... Like a character who hates... Archaeology?
Starting point is 01:21:42 No, he's just an evil archaeologist. Okay, right. Which is also what Indiana Jones is technically. I mean? No, he's just an evil archaeologist. Okay, right. Which is also what Indiana Jones is technically. I mean, in many ways he is an evil archaeologist. But it's interesting, I read an article on Uproxx this week about Temple of Doom, how it's a prequel, and how it makes sense that he sucks in that movie because he hasn't learnt anything. Because if you watch chronologically those movies,
Starting point is 01:22:02 he actually gets better as a human being. And I find that really interesting. But they also talked about the reason this article that didn't happen in the 90s is because Spielberg, Lucas, and Harrison Ford all had to be on board for the same ideas. And Lucas was just- Oh, it was like a three-man voting system. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:19 And Lucas just wanted to do Aliens. And the other two were like, we don't want that. So it just kind of didn't happen for 20 years. Yeah, right. And then it did. And, you know. Yeah. The other two were like, we want Kevin Costner as the evil brother.
Starting point is 01:22:32 But he'd have to be something. I feel like. Again, it's probably not even true. No, I know. But I'm just. I read it in a magazine in the 90s. If you have an idea of what Kevin Costner's character could have been. Because I feel he should have to be.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Maybe he's like a. Aristocrat. A Nazi? No. The Rocketeer. Maybe he's a guy that keeps taking Indiana Jones artifacts that he steals and giving them back to the cultures he's stolen them from. So he's a good guy. He's a good guy.
Starting point is 01:23:03 And then he's beaten to death at the end. Indiana Jones drops a big rock on him. And he takes the idol or whatever out of his dead hand and he steals it again. Yeah, he shows his dad and his dad's like, good. Pretty good. Good work. You're the best brother.
Starting point is 01:23:20 I only have one son again. That's right. You may have been named after the dog, but your brother was named after a big pile of poo. That's right. You may have been named after the dog, but your brother was named after a big pile of poo. That's right. A real rat. A rat that lived in a pile of poo outside our house. The dumbest thing we've ever seen.
Starting point is 01:23:39 No, it's not. It's not even close. So AI. And his name's literally Rattus Jones. His legal name is Rattus Jones because his dad had an inkling. He did? Yeah. Something wrong with that dad.
Starting point is 01:23:54 No wonder Indiana Jones turned out like that. Yes. Are you kidding me? Also, he fell into snakes. He fought a lion. Yeah. Shit is insane. It's not good.
Starting point is 01:24:01 Yeah. It's a wonder he's anything at all as a human being. Shit, he's a monster. Anyway not good. Yeah. It's a wonder he's anything at all as a human being. He's a monster. Anyway, AI. Oh, yeah. So artificial intelligence. I know what it stands for. I know, but some people would know.
Starting point is 01:24:12 It's a Haley Joel Osment movie. It came out in like 2001. So Kubrick began developing- Stanley Kubrick. Yes, sorry. Super Toys Last All Summer, which is the book that it's based on is that a Philip K. Dick novel I don't think it is
Starting point is 01:24:27 you can look it up I'm going to look it up in the late 1970s he asked Spielberg to direct this movie in 1985 so that far ahead so Kubrick asked
Starting point is 01:24:36 yes so Kubrick director himself was like I don't think I can do this yeah he thought Spielberg would have been a better choice
Starting point is 01:24:43 writers were hired sorry to say that writers were hired he was Sorry, I'm just thinking about that right. Writers were hired and... He was a man, but he's like a rat. Writers were hired and fired over the next six years. Kubrick dropped AI to work on a film adaptation of Wartime Lies. Never heard of it. And he felt also the computer animation was not advanced enough
Starting point is 01:25:00 to create David because one of the things... David being Ellie Joel Osment's character? Yes, because one of the things... This wasn't in the stuff that I read, but one of the things that was a problem with that movie was he wanted to film it over such a long period of time, which he does all of his movies generally, that a kid would age out of that noticeably. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. So he was looking for ways around that.
Starting point is 01:25:20 So after Jurassic Park came out, it was announced, the production was announced in, do you find that book? Oh, it's by Brian Aldist. Okay. He's written so many science fiction novels. Oh, my God. Even this one we're talking about. Yeah, good on him.
Starting point is 01:25:31 So after Jurassic Park came out, and I feel like this happened a lot, then he realised that it could be done to an extent. Yeah, right. And so he announced production in 1994, but Kubrick was happy, I was unhappy with the cost of ILM and the two people who worked on Jurassic Park, the special effects for that, for this. I thought it was too costly. But that shit is expensive.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Yeah. It's expensive for a reason. And also they're giving you the money to make this. Yeah, exactly. So, you know. I don't know what. I don't feel it's good enough that they're charging me so much money for this movie that I really want to make.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Yeah. And I think it's going to be good. So he assembled a series of, so what he didn't, a team assembled a series of little robot-type humans for the David character instead. The quote is, we tried to construct a little boy with a movable rubber face to see whether we could make it look appealing,
Starting point is 01:26:17 said producer Jan Harlan. But she reflected, it was a total failure. It looked awful. I know. Because, I mean, a rubber little boy face, no one wants that, do they? It's horrifying. Anyway, he wanted Spielberg to do it still,
Starting point is 01:26:31 but he's like, I don't want to do this. Anyway, Kubrick died and then Spielberg made it. And that's essentially what happened. Like, after Eyes Wide Shut, it was his last film, he died and then we got it. And from memory, it's fine. It's good, maybe. So the sticking point was Kubrick going, please don't make this movie.
Starting point is 01:26:51 And then he died. And then Spielberg was like, well, that's the last roadblock out of the way. No, no. He wanted Spielberg to do it. Oh, he did. Okay, right, right, right. And Spielberg didn't want to make it. Oh, okay, right.
Starting point is 01:26:59 Because he's like, this is more, you know, you like kids and aliens and fun and shit. You should make this. Right, right, right. And Spielberg's like, I don't, no, you make it. So does I. Spielberg's just like, you fucking make it like kids and aliens and fun and shit. You should make this. Right, right, right. I was like, I don't, you make it. So does I. I was just like, you fucking make it. If you love this movie so much. You've been talking to me about this for 20 years.
Starting point is 01:27:11 God damn, I've made so many movies. I'm sick of making movies. I'm not making movies on spec for randos. Not even you, Kubrick. I'm like, Poo-brick. Yeah, got him. And then he died from that. He died of a mortal insult.
Starting point is 01:27:24 So has Spielberg, I wonder, spoken about that? You don't have to of a mortal insult so it's Spielberg I wonder spoken about that you don't have to have the answer there but I don't I wonder if he's he did at the time I remember and it was he like well I'm doing this because Kubrick asked me I think it was part of it and I called him Poo-brick and that's what killed him yeah uh so I feel a little bit bad about that about the Poo-brick thing no that's what Spielberg said oh okay you're okay with the Poo-? Yeah. Yeah, I'm okay with it. So, yeah. There's been enough time.
Starting point is 01:27:48 There's been plenty of time. Yeah. So, look, you probably get a Pooh covered in, brick covered in Pooh coming through your window if anybody objects to that, I'd imagine. It's true. But I should watch that again. I mentioned this last week, but I think there are some good ideas in it. And apparently also the Jude Law character is a gigolo character in that but apparently he was going to be like a G.I. Joe type army character yeah not the gigolo part just the army part yeah
Starting point is 01:28:12 right like a robot army yeah but Kubrick changed it to that and he was like well I lost our bloody pg rating or whatever ha ha ha he said to himself why is this movie so expensive but he paid for this r-rated movie with a robot gigolo? Who am I even talking to here? I don't think... I think it was PG-13. Great cast. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:35 You know what I watched the other day? What's that? Was it the movie Gus? We've got to do our time on Gus. The movie... So the Brendan Fraser, Elizabeth Hurley movie. It's funny, man. She's the devil.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Yeah. I mean, it's not brilliant, but there's some sequences in that which are quite, there's a bit where it's like a 10-minute sequence where Brendan Fraser just speaks Spanish for the entire thing. Okay, right. It's quite good. Probably learned Spanish for seven months for that. No doubt.
Starting point is 01:28:58 But they made it. That's the difference. They did make it. It's true. And it's a remake, I think. Yeah. Peter Sellers? Probably Peter Sellers.
Starting point is 01:29:04 No, it was, yeah, it was Dudley Moore? I did know. I looked it up and I can't remember now. But somebody was in it. Yeah, that's right. Anyway, those are all the movies that have ever been delayed but also came out. That's correct, yes. I wonder if New Mutants will come out.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Yeah, no, it's got to. It's on the slate, right? So was Bond. Oh, but then coronavirus. That's what I'm saying. Didn't even factor that in. Yeah, you're right. But I think they're at the point where it's just like,
Starting point is 01:29:27 this is happening. We're getting rid of it. It's like that Doom video. I just wanted to get rid of it. It's like going to the toilet. Yeah. Eventually it's too late. Get rid of it.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Yeah. We're reaching the point of no return. That's right. I don't care if there's no toilet paper. The new mutants is coming out. Agreed. So I'm trying to think of any of them. We'd say the rest of these, whether they were Blurthon or not,
Starting point is 01:29:49 doesn't matter, does it? That's right. Okay, you know what it's time for? You know what? It isn't all right, James. You came up, you worked hard, you workshopped this. Have you seen AI? Maybe not the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:29:58 I think it's Blurthon, I think. Maze Runner? I think it's Blurthon. No, the other one. Worth it. Okay, these all seem like they're worth it. Maze Runner, worth it. Mad Max, obviously worth it. Fury 7, worth it. Jurassic World, yeah, I guess it's worth it. No, the other one. Worth it. Okay, these all seem like they're worth it. Waze Runner, worth it. Mad Max, obviously worth it.
Starting point is 01:30:05 Fury 7, worth it. Jurassic World, yeah, I guess it's worth it. Venom. Nah. Deadpool, worth it. You came up with a system and I respect it. Workshopped it with your wife and friends. That's right.
Starting point is 01:30:17 And Phone Booth, worth it, I would say. I think so too. Anyway, if you think some of these aren't worth it or blurt it, let us know. Or don't. Just continue on with what you're doing. That's cool too. You know what's time for, Mason? It's time for what we're reading?
Starting point is 01:30:29 Yeah, what we're going to read. What are we going to read? I'm doing a thing. I just realised I forgot to put the... The reason I talked about Bedazzled is because the lead in AI, the mum, is played by Frances O'Connor reason I talked about Bedazzled. Yes. Because the lead in AI, the mum. Yes. Is played by Francis O'Connor, who's in Bedazzled.
Starting point is 01:30:50 And that's why I said that. And in Three Billboards. Yes. No, Francis O'Connor. Oh, no, Francis McDonald.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Okay. Yeah. Sorry, I said the wrong thing, but now I've said the right thing. So you weren't just watching it because you were going through a Brendan. I think I was.
Starting point is 01:31:01 I think a part of me was like, cause we just. The phrase naysaunce. But the phrase naysaunce, but the phrase naysaunce, because we just wrapped up the mummy. And I like that era of Brendan Fraser. Like I remember thinking, um,
Starting point is 01:31:11 last from the past, had some okay moments, George of the jungle. I only saw like a couple of years ago. Have you seen gods and monsters? No, apparently. You should say I've seen that.
Starting point is 01:31:18 It's really good. It's a Fraser and Ian McKellen. Good movie. I mean, he's not fighting any mummies, but. Oh, well then no, I'm obviously not going to watch it. What are you even's not fighting any mummies, but. Well, then no. I'm obviously not going to watch it.
Starting point is 01:31:26 What are you even talking about? Sorry. What are you even talking about? Sorry. What are you reading, Mason? Well, I'm not reading anything, but. Classic nerd. Right?
Starting point is 01:31:33 Or not? Well, yeah, but this week I'm continuing my quest to play all the video games that are not current, and I started on God of War. And? It's good. Isn't it just? There's a lot more environmental-based puzzles than I thought there would be. There is a lot of War. And? It's good. Isn't it just? There's a lot more environmental-based puzzles than I thought there would be.
Starting point is 01:31:46 There is a lot of that in this game. There's a lot of moving blocks and shooting arrows at light bulbs and stuff. Yeah, sure. Do you like that there's a hub world in it
Starting point is 01:31:53 or do you wish it just went on? Because what I liked about the old God of Wars, 1, 2, and 3, and also there was a prequel. Because I've never played any of the previous ones. Is that you never kind of
Starting point is 01:32:04 circle back to anything. You might touch on things but i don't really like generally hub worlds in games i like to move i like moving through it and yeah right and it feels it feels more fetch questy than i thought it's thought of traversal and being sitting on the boat with your son yeah um looks good though it looks so good Oh my god, the way the witch lives There's a witch who lives in a sort of a secret woods And it's very, very exciting Yeah Very springtime
Starting point is 01:32:32 Have you met like the blacksmith dudes and whatever? Yes, I have Yeah, cool Have you met the big serpent? Yes Cool Have you met various villains? I've met the guy whose head you chop off and then you carry it around
Starting point is 01:32:42 It's pretty good I don't even remember that. There's a guy trapped in a tree. Spoilers for a game that came out two years ago. There's like a god trapped in a tree and you need his knowledge with you, but he's stuck in the tree, so you chop his head off. What, a big dragon? Yes.
Starting point is 01:32:58 Cool. You're fair way in. The reason I was confused then because there's a – I think it's in God of War 2 or it might be 3 where you also cut a guy's head off and carry it around. Well, you know it works. It's the light guy. It might be Hermes.
Starting point is 01:33:11 No. Which is the light god? The great god. Whatever. Anyway, you use it as like a beacon. Yeah, right. You just got a seven head on you. But it doesn't talk.
Starting point is 01:33:18 It just screams light. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah, the characterization I enjoy in that. Does he line up? He lines up a little bit, I feel. Yeah. Yeah. But no. But yes, a little bit, I feel. But no.
Starting point is 01:33:26 But yes, a little bit. Yeah. You know. I also like that he's in the wrong era. Like he's not even supposed to be there. Oh, he's not even supposed to be in that mythos, really. Because this is, okay, so he's in the previous God of War games, he fights every mythology, right?
Starting point is 01:33:43 Sometimes he fights. It's mostly the Greeks. Okay, right. Does he not fight the Norse gods he fights. It's mostly the Greeks. Okay, right. Does he not fight the Norse gods before? I feel like there's. Okay, right. I feel like there's. I get the impression he's fought like Thor before.
Starting point is 01:33:55 Maybe. You might be right. Okay. Oh, I don't want to spoil the game. Don't spoil it then. Yeah, you find out some stuff. Oh, nice. About the history of.
Starting point is 01:34:03 Pretty sick. So on and so forth. Nice, okay. And who certain people are. I mean, he's him. There's no revelation there. He's just a guy. He's the son of Zeus, right?
Starting point is 01:34:11 Yes. Okay. Yeah, which was revealed in 2 or a different one. Anyway, it's a good game. It is a real good game. And they're probably working on another one, I imagine. Oh, what else do I think about this game? This game.
Starting point is 01:34:23 What's another hot take from this game from 2018? Combat's good. It's pretty unforgiving. You know, okay, here's another thing that I found a little bit unwieldy is I feel like the attack buttons are not in the place they should be. Probably remap that. I don't want to, though. If you go into the menu with it.
Starting point is 01:34:38 I don't want to, though. Cool. I'm just going to bitch about it. Yeah, that's good, too. While I'm going like right trigger, why it's attack on the right triggers. How dare they? Are you worried that this kid just going to bitch about it. Yeah, that's good too. While I'm going like right trigger, while it's attack on the right triggers. How dare they? Are you worried that this kid's going to get murdered
Starting point is 01:34:48 because it's his second family? Oh. No, not really. Not especially. Well, you should, Mason. Oh, no. Because he's known for it. Oh, is he?
Starting point is 01:34:58 No spoilers. Yes, he literally murdered his wife and child. He murdered his own wife and child? Yes. He murdered his own wife and child? In the first game, you find that out, yeah. Kratos did? Yes.
Starting point is 01:35:08 Why? Because the God of War, the original one, a different dude with big spider legs on his back or something, he makes you run into a hut and murder everybody. You don't do it. It's in a cut scene. Okay. Is it an illusion?
Starting point is 01:35:22 I can't remember, but basically he murders his own family. Oh, no. And he's like, what have I done? And he's like, I did this so you'd be a Is it an illusion? I can't remember, but basically he murders his own family. Oh, no. And then he's like, what have I done? And he's like, I did this so you'd be a better God of War. And he's like, fuck you.
Starting point is 01:35:30 What are you doing? But also, maybe look around before you start murdering people. Yeah. But he's not the God of War initially, because the first game you have to kill the God of War.
Starting point is 01:35:39 Right, yes. And then you become the God of War. Okay, yeah. Anyway, spoiler alert for that game from 2004 or whatever it came out. Great stuff. It is great stuff. What have you been reading that game from 2004 or whatever it came out. Great stuff. It is great stuff. What have you been reading?
Starting point is 01:35:48 Also, the PSP ones are good too. Surprisingly. Not surprisingly. They're just good. There's a comic called Billionaire Island by Mark Russell, who did Second Coming, and Steve Pugh, who worked on Harley Quinn Breaking Glass. And what's all this about?
Starting point is 01:36:00 It's a billionaire island where billionaires are controlling everything and this one guy's like, I'm going to get on that island and kill everybody. Just the billionaires? Yeah. It's like a billionaire home away from home. Yes, but it's also people specifically find out why he wants to do it. It's been one issue in and it's independently published and I like it.
Starting point is 01:36:16 But I also... Is it inspired by current events? Probably. Isn't it all things, Mason? It's probably... New media, you know what I mean? I do know precisely what you mean. Not that you know Anything about current events
Starting point is 01:36:25 With your old ass Video game you're playing Yep What old People People out there The listeners The wonderful weekly
Starting point is 01:36:30 Wacka to do's Last of us Play last of us I've got it I can give it to you I feel like I should play some games That aren't like
Starting point is 01:36:37 Third person Wandering around A hub world situation There's no hub world You move forward Okay See some cool stuff Alright Should play it Or don't I'm going to wandering around a hub world situation. There's no hub world in that. You move forward. See some cool stuff.
Starting point is 01:36:46 All right. Should play it. Or don't. I'm going to. Yeah, you don't have to though. Okay. Yeah. No, you want people to say what for you to play.
Starting point is 01:36:54 Yes. Yeah, okay. I'll play it. The listeners. Yeah, good. And I'll tell them about it. A game they've already played. I'll explain it to them back badly.
Starting point is 01:37:06 People love that. They'll like like it they'll really enjoy it i also uh in anticipation for the the remake and of the last airbender because they're doing a live action version i want to watch that show so i've been watching it through i'm like five in it's cool i like it a lot all right the only thing is thing is it's like it's got the big black lines down the side. Oh, because it's a 4-3. Yeah, because it started in like early 2000s or whatever. 2000s. You can just move your head slightly forward. I don't want that.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Okay. But it's also the team behind Voltron who did the recent Voltron. And you can kind of see the similarities in it, which is interesting. But because I do want to do the movie for Caravan and Garbage, the bad movie, so I feel like I need to understand the series before I go into that. Okay, right. So that's really why I'm watching it.
Starting point is 01:37:47 So you can be the expert. Exactly. So I can be an expert for once in my life. But it's genuinely great. Like, there's an obvious reason why people love it because it's really good. Okay. Maybe I'll watch some episodes of that as well.
Starting point is 01:37:56 It's on Netflix. Check it out. And then I want to watch the sequel as well. Legend of Korra. Yeah. Sick, right? Pretty sick, bro. Pretty sick, bro. Anything else? I think that's about the lot. Sick? That's sick, bro. That's pretty sick, bro. Yeah. Sick, right? Pretty sick, bro. Pretty sick, bro.
Starting point is 01:38:05 Anything else? I think that's about the lot. Sick? That's sick, bro. That's pretty sick, bro. Yeah. I listen to Michael Rosenbaum's podcast. Did you listen to one with Brandon Routh?
Starting point is 01:38:14 I listened to the episode with Brandon Routh and then I listened to an episode with Tom Welling. So I'm like, just listen to the Superman episodes. Yeah. Yeah. You listen to the Henry Cavill one? I don't know if there was one. There's not.
Starting point is 01:38:24 Oh, you son of a bitch. It's good to be here. Yeah. You listen to the Henry Cavill one? I don't know if there was one. There's not. Oh, you son of a bitch. It's good to be here. Yeah, so I heard he talks a bit about Bryan Singer in that. I haven't got up to that point yet. He's like, he wasn't very nice to some people. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah, it turns out. I feel like, I don't know, I feel,
Starting point is 01:38:36 because I only listen to a couple of episodes. I feel like Michael Rosenbaum, like I think his conversation with Brendan Routh was a little bit stilted just because I don't think they knew each other before this. But the one with Tom Welling was super fun. They're kind of. They hang out all the time. It's a high five.
Starting point is 01:38:52 Yeah, they're cool. They're cool. Fun dudes. And they both dated Lana Lang or something in that show or whatever happened to that show. Right. Yeah, cool. That's a good. Yeah, I've only ever seen clips, but I should actually listen to that.
Starting point is 01:39:04 Give it a proper listen. He's a little bit Joe Rogany, I think. Because he's bald. Or he's not bald. He's a good show. Yeah, I've only ever seen clips, but I should actually listen to that and give it a proper listen. He's a little bit Joe Rogan-y, I think. Because he's bald. Or he's not bald. He's not bald. Yeah. Because of DMT? Almost certainly because of DMT.
Starting point is 01:39:13 Yeah, cool. Yeah, you know, because what happens is when you take DMT, it puts you on a plane of existence where you are Joe Rogan. We're all Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan is peak Joe Rogan. That's peak humanity. What happens is you're a regular human and then you evolve to
Starting point is 01:39:29 pure energy, but in between you're Joe Rogan. I would have thought that Joe Rogan would become after the pure energy. Maybe you circle back. That's pure protein. That's what that is, yeah. Great. Terrific. Should we do some letters? Yeah, I think we should. Letters! The classic one was the letters, oh letters.
Starting point is 01:39:46 We can keep it beat. They're only a take away. We're going to hear right now. We're going to do letters. Got a lot of rhythm in here happening today. We do? Yeah, that's right. Form a drum circle.
Starting point is 01:39:59 Let's go. Let's go, everyone. So this is from Jay. Oh, if you want to reach the show, hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter. Send them out. Please do. You're probably more likely to get in if you do it during the week because then I do it before the show and I get inundated
Starting point is 01:40:14 and then I can't pick everything. But I say during the week and I like the question. If I'm on something that I can quickly copy it, I'll do that. Anyway, this is from Jamie during the week. Hashtag weeklyplanetpod. What's your favourite Indiana Jones film and why? I was just thinking about this week. Man, you can think about it on there.
Starting point is 01:40:31 I won't. We'll monetize this content. Oh, okay, cool. I'll put an ad right here. For what though? I don't know. Protein? Yes.
Starting point is 01:40:40 Protein powder. Pure protein. Okay, great. 100% bro. Oh yeah. You've got to stop saying 100%. I feel like I said too much. No, it's got to be your catchphrase. You're great. 100%, bro. Oh, yeah. You've got to stop saying 100%. No, it's got to be your catchphrase. You're right.
Starting point is 01:40:48 It's my catchphrase alone. Yeah. For me, it's a toss-up between... First and the third, right? First and the third, exactly. What about you? Yeah, same. So either Raiders or Last Crusade.
Starting point is 01:40:59 I think it's three because I really like the dynamic. Of Henry Jones and Henry Jones Jr. I like the Marion Ravenwood dynamic from the first one. It's hard to go past that truck stunt where he's sliding underneath in the big rock, obviously. The dynamic in the third one and that tank battle is insane, and I love it. It's just on the cusp of being too big for that kind of pulp movie
Starting point is 01:41:27 where it's like, okay, well, they, you know, there was nothing on the level of this kind of stunt in an actual 1930s pulp film or whatever. Yeah. But, you know, just really good films. What about you though? Which one? And I like Temple of Doom also, even though I know that like.
Starting point is 01:41:42 Yeah. I feel like Raiders kind of gets a little bogged down at certain points. There's some... It's like early 80s. Yeah. There's some, you know, some moving some stuff around to discover some clues and find the location of the Ark or what have you. And I think it kind of loses some momentum there.
Starting point is 01:42:01 Whereas I feel like the third one is better at keeping the momentum, even though they're just like, what hole do I punch through or whatever? You know that famous dialogue? Hey, Dad, what hole do I punch through? Or, you know, the bit in the sewers where they're just rubbing their stencil over a grave or whatever. I'm like, well, let's, you know, it was action-packed
Starting point is 01:42:23 all the way up to this point and then action-packed all the way out, so. Does Raiders open with an action scene? It does. Yeah, he's in the temple. It's got an incredible opening. Yeah. Yeah. Blood guns.
Starting point is 01:42:31 Sand. There's also more drinking in the first one. They kill a monkey with some dates. He fights a guy in front of a propeller, whatever. That pub burns down. Marion's pub burns down. It's a good movie. Yes.
Starting point is 01:42:43 It's the reason why people like that good movie. And it's the third one then, right? It's the third one, yeah, 100%. What have you got from, that's my catchphrase, excuse you. What is it? You said 100%. Yeah. You're not allowed to say that.
Starting point is 01:42:58 I'll never do it again. So did I say Weekly Planet Podcast? 10 out of 10, baby. That's very good. Weeklyplanetpod.gmail.com. That's right. And what have you got for us this week? This is from Brian.
Starting point is 01:43:10 Hello, Brian. He's a huge fan of the podcast. Thank you, Brian. Brian with a Y. Brian with a Y, so Brian. I'm from the north of Scotland and wondered what your favourite British TV comedies are and if there are any that are considered classics in the UK
Starting point is 01:43:20 but maybe the humour doesn't translate so well over with you guys. Every British comedy translates here because we're basically. Yeah, we get kind of the best of the both worlds. We get a lot of British stuff. We got more British stuff in the 80s and 90s, and then it kind of shifted to American. It's probably more American now. Yeah, I think so. I'm not sure on the ABC.
Starting point is 01:43:39 Do you remember the British Empire? Which was that one? The British Empire was, it was Chris Barry from Red Dwarf, except he's a really uptight leisure centre manager. Yeah, I loved that. Yeah, it was a good joke. Didn't he die and then he got kicked out of heaven at one point? I don't remember that, but probably.
Starting point is 01:43:56 Look, UK, I mean, there's so many classics. You know, Monty Python's Flying Circus, obviously. And some others do have them, obviously. Yeah, just kidding about that one. I don't like any of that stuff. You're right. Ooh. Anything where anybody would say, ooh, matron, right in the bin.
Starting point is 01:44:14 So none of that, no, no, are you being served. There were seven series of the British Empire. I didn't know that. There you go. The young ones, certainly. Yeah, that's a good one. Went from 91 to 97. I had no idea.
Starting point is 01:44:27 Yeah, The Office. I don't love extras in hindsight. Okay. It's just like, Daniel Radcliffe's got a condom or whatever. It's like, yeah, great stuff. Still funny, though. Still hilarious. The Mighty Boosh.
Starting point is 01:44:39 Yeah, I like Mighty Boosh. I think we've talked about this before. The third season is not great. Yeah. How do you feel about Father Ted? I didn't really watch it that much. I know that guy's like being a dickhead or whatever. But it's all right.
Starting point is 01:44:52 You know, what I'm going to do right now is I'm going to look up British comedies. I'm just going to list them. And we're going to go, ooh, good or not good. Sounds good to me. Okay. Do you have another letter in the meantime? Fawlty Towers. Fawlty Towers.
Starting point is 01:45:03 Yeah. I saw a Fawlty Towers play in Australia. They did a stage show. Not the dinner tour or whatever it is. No, no. This was like they – and I thought it was going to be a new episode, so I was really excited to be like – because they only made like 12, but they kind of mashed two or three together into one stage play,
Starting point is 01:45:23 which is kind of disappointing. But the weird thing was everyone was dead on and looked the same. Except John Cleese. Interesting. There was something about that that couldn't be recaptured. And I don't know whether it's that particular, because he's John Cleese, but everybody else was like, it was like you stepped through a time machine.
Starting point is 01:45:44 And even the set, like just sitting, when I got in there, I just couldn't, I just was just staring at it that they just recreated the set. It just blew my mind. And it's like, it's nothing. It's like a foyer in a, it's nothing. And a dinner, like a dining room or whatever. Maybe it was the understudy or something like that. No, it wasn't.
Starting point is 01:45:59 You think you get too under, even if it was, you think you get too good. But he was good. And he's like a guy in television and he was good, but it felt more like he was kind of doing a John Cleese impersonation. I'd be more excited. Maybe we should do it one time. We should go to the Fawlty Towers dining experience, which is an unlicensed Fawlty Towers stage situation in Melbourne sometimes where you go and you have a bad dinner and Basil Fawlty insults you or whatever.
Starting point is 01:46:24 And the waiter drops some dishes. I don't know what happens. That sounds great. Apparently it's terrible. And John Cleese is aware of it and he hates it apparently. So it's terrible as in it's just a terrible experience because it's a bad kind of knockoff. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 01:46:40 That sounds terrific. Okay, here's a list. This is Ranker's list of the best British comedy series ever. We'll be the judge of that, Ranker. Okay, Fawlty Towers, number one. Blackadder, big fan. First season sucks. A lot of...
Starting point is 01:46:52 There's... Not sucks. There was even a debate this week on Twitter about whether that's still bad or good. Somebody was like, you're not a true Blackadder fan if you don't also like the first season. I like the one where they go to war.
Starting point is 01:47:02 Yeah, that's World War I one. Yeah, that's probably my favourite. Do you like Blackout of Back in Time or whatever? No. Absolutely not. Monty Python's Flying Circus, absolutely fantastic. The It Crowd's still great. Yep.
Starting point is 01:47:13 Father Ted, yep. Keeping Up Appearances. Hate it. Cynthia Bouquet, yeah, I hate it also. Same episode, 50 times. Yeah, 100%. Hate it. She's good, though.
Starting point is 01:47:23 Oh, yeah. Everyone's good in that. Yeah, for sure. But I just hate it. She's good, though. Oh, yeah. Everyone's good in that. But I just hate it. And I also feel like we don't 100% get that weird class system that she lives in where she always has to, as the title suggests, keep up appearances. I think we get it. Yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 01:47:37 But it's literally the same episode. It's 100%, yeah. The Office of the Inbetweeners. Yep. I really like the Inbetweeners. I really enjoyed it at the time. I don't know if it's held up as well. What I think about the Inbetweeners is Yep. I really like the in-betweeners. I really enjoyed it at the time. I don't know if it's held up. What I think about the in-betweeners is it's a really accurate depiction
Starting point is 01:47:47 of just you and your dumbass friends in high school and you're just kind of muddling your way through and you're an idiot. Yeah. So that is accurate. 100%. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%, Mason?
Starting point is 01:47:58 Sorry, 10 out of 10. 10 out of 10 in agreement. Are you being served garbage? Only Fools and Horses? Do you remember Only Fools and Horses? I don't think I've seen it. Okay. It's David Jason and Roger Lopak. Oh, okay. Are you being served garbage? Only Fools and Horses. Do you remember Only Fools and Horses? I don't think I've seen it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:48:08 It's got, it's David Jason and Roger Lopak. Oh, okay. These two, they're like, they're kind of like odd job men, I guess. Or junk shop owners. I don't know what it is. Does Mr. Bean count? Is that a sitcom? Yeah, of course it is. Black Book's incredible.
Starting point is 01:48:20 Yep. Peep Show. And I like that Mitchell and Webb look way more than I like. I really like that Mitchell and Webb look. That Nazi sketch is incredible. Yeah. Also, if you haven't listened to it, before that Mitchell and Webb look, there was that Mitchell and Webb sound, which is just an audio version of,
Starting point is 01:48:40 like a BBC audio version of that show. I know that. It's really good. I never got into Peep show because I know it went for ages. Like it only recently finished as well. Yeah, I never really – I don't love it necessarily, but those guys are great, I think, Mitchell and Webb. There's a big horse on there.
Starting point is 01:48:54 Or big train, sorry. Big train. I don't know yet. My favourite Mitchell and Webb sketch – or maybe it's not my favourite, but it's the one that sticks in my mind the most. Have you seen the one – they play these London club entertainers called Fish and Chip. And they've been together. They're like a weird cabaret comedy act called Fish and Chip.
Starting point is 01:49:14 And they've been together for like 30 years. And then Chip decides he will go behind Fish's back so he can team up with Pin. Like Roger Pin from another dodgy London comedy act called pin and cushion. They want it. So chip and pin want to team up so they can be the face of the chip and pin credit card system and leave their respective comedy partners in the dirt. But then it turns out that fish and cushion team up instead and then chip
Starting point is 01:49:43 and pin a left kind of, you know, destitute. It's funny. So it's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. There's also the one where they do Sherlock Holmes but they can't decide
Starting point is 01:49:53 on who plays Holmes or Watson. So every time they cut they switch roles just in one scene. I love Big Talk. Yep. You know what? It's Mitchell and Web look.
Starting point is 01:50:02 I'm going to keep going but this is maybe my favourite. It's because it was hosted by um like roger big or something like that what is it i can't remember there's a they do small talk where they get like celebrities and football players to come on and do people talk and they try to answer questions and it's just it might be one of the funniest things that i've ever seen is that the guy and he's like let's solve something yeah and he solve something yeah and they're like we should spend more money he's like brilliant let's do it yeah um come on boffins yeah that's right yeah and there's a digby chicken caesar who's uh an insane man yeah uh and there's
Starting point is 01:50:35 number wang which is obviously the the nonsensical number based game shows which some people playing seem to understand that some people don't uh fleabag, incredible. Yeah, Fleabag's amazing. AbFab, not really for me, but I understand why people like it. I wish a bit of that. Hello, hello. The naughty French. No, that goes in the are you being served category. Birds of a feather, is that in there?
Starting point is 01:50:57 As time goes by, is that in there? No, it's not in here. Look, as the ranks get further and further, the young ones is here. That's tough. Spaced. Spaced. The Avengers is on this list. What? The British Avengers.
Starting point is 01:51:08 No. No, absolutely not. Oh, Last of the Summer Wine. Have you seen The Detectorists? No. It's a really good show. I wouldn't call it a laugh out loud comedy, but it's got, speaking of The Office, it's got Mackenzie Crook from The Office.
Starting point is 01:51:21 Okay. And Toby Jones, who you know is the. I know this. He's that little man. Yeah know toby jones and they're they're a couple of metal detector enthusiasts who are apparently called detectorists okay and it's just i've never seen it's kind of just a not i think it's on it's be on netflix or stan or something and it's just a couple of nice men and they they they have little adventures and they and they have some personal issues and they're just, you know. It's about a friendship between two men with a weird hobby.
Starting point is 01:51:49 It's a really good show. Do you like Dad's Army? No, I don't like Dad's Army. Do you like Little Britain? I don't like Little Britain. I hate Little Britain. Do you like Alan Partridge? Yes, I do like Alan Partridge.
Starting point is 01:51:59 100%. 10 out of 10. How dare you. Mrs. Brown's Boys. No, atrocious. Yes, Minister. That's good. It's really good.
Starting point is 01:52:10 The thick of it. I've seen bits and pieces. I haven't seen all of it. Goodnight, Sweetheart. I watched every episode of that. Nicholas Lindhurst again, back from Only Fools and Horses. So Goodnight, Sweetheart I really liked because it's about a guy who lives in the 90s and if he walks down a certain alleyway, he gets transported to England during the war.
Starting point is 01:52:29 Yes. And what he's able to do because he works for maybe a printing company or he knows somebody, he can forge banknotes convincingly. And he tells everybody in the past that he's a spy, which is why he keeps disappearing back to the 90s. So in the war, people think he's like this super secret British spy. And in the 90s, he's just some guy. Okay. And he's balancing those two worlds.
Starting point is 01:52:49 Yeah. It's good. Does he ever have to do any super spy stuff? He does. During the war? Yeah, they catch him at one point and be like, you've been masquerading as a spy. They shoot him in the head. Yeah, so we need you to do this.
Starting point is 01:52:59 I read Dwarf. Dwarf. Sorry. Thank you. Catastrophe with Sharon Horgan and Rob Delaney. That's a great show. I have not seen that. You should. You've talked about that a lot. Yeah, it's on Amazon, I think. Because he lives, Rob Delaney lives in England, doesn't he? He does, sorry. Thank you. Catastrophe with Sharon Horgan and Rob Delaney. That's a great show. I have not seen that. You should.
Starting point is 01:53:05 You've talked about that a lot. Yeah, it's on Amazon, I think. Because Rob Delaney lives in England, doesn't he? He does, yeah. A Vicar of Dibley. Yep, fine. Also, we've mentioned it before. And again, this is just a list.
Starting point is 01:53:14 But what a list. This is actually a great list. This is at 47, Toast of London. Toast of London's amazing. I think it's a great show. I think anything with Matt Berry involved is terrific. Oh, and Garth Marenghi's Dark Place. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:25 That's right up there as well. Anyway, I think we've covered every. Yeah. Oh, and this, look, not strictly speaking a comedy, but I was thinking about it earlier, Minder. You ever seen Minder? What's that? No.
Starting point is 01:53:37 Minder's about a guy called Arthur Daly, and he's like a low rent, like a street hustler. Not a street, but he's like always doing businessrent, like a street hustler. Not a street, but he's like always doing business deals on the streets of London. He's like a kind of like a, you know, like a low-rent kind of guy. And he's got a minder who beats people up for him. Okay. Is it new-ish?
Starting point is 01:53:56 No, this is from the 70s. Okay. Hang on, I'll find it for you. I don't believe you. I've got a computer as well. But the guy who plays the minder also sang the theme song. Minder. That's not it. I don't know this at all. I've got a computer as well. But the guy who plays the Minder also sang the theme song. Minder. That's not it.
Starting point is 01:54:06 That's not. I don't know this at all. I know the faces. Oh, these, one of those guys is in that, you show about the old detectives or whatever, right? Yeah, Dennis Waterman, yeah. Yeah. George Cole and Dennis Waterman.
Starting point is 01:54:16 Not strictly speaking a comedy. Yeah. But it was good. Great. Yeah. That's the show, isn't it? That is the whole show, yeah. I had another tweet.
Starting point is 01:54:24 I should do it why not Jordan JR says what are your favourite war movies mine is Saving Private Ryan what's your favourite I was just thinking
Starting point is 01:54:32 I was just thinking that the other day James it's all favourite stuff yeah it's all my favourite stuff that I'm burnt out on war movies I think
Starting point is 01:54:38 yeah there's that new Tom Hanks is in a boat one did you see the trailer for that no I did not see Tom Hanks in a boat
Starting point is 01:54:43 yeah he's in a boat he was just in a boat for that other you see the trailer for that? No, I did not see Tom Hanks in a boat. Yeah, he's in a boat. He was just in a boat for that other one and we were in a boat. Yeah. Sully. Oh no, that was a plane. That was a plane, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:51 Oh, you know what I'm talking about. No. The captain one was like, I'm the captain now. Captain Morgan? Captain Phillips. Okay, great. Good times.
Starting point is 01:54:58 I think it's Dunkirk. That's all right. I don't mind it. Yeah, okay, but I think that's- I think 1917 is better than Dunkirk. Well, I haven't seen 1917 and I never will because I'm at peak war movie. I don't mind it. Yeah, okay. But I think that's- I think 1917 is better than Dunkirk. Well, I haven't seen 1917, and I never will, because I'm at peak war movie. I don't want to see- You should watch that one.
Starting point is 01:55:09 I'm with you, but I really enjoyed it. I should do a different spin on historical war, you know? Really spice it up for me. Maybe have a new war. Perfect. New content, is what I'm saying. 10 out of 10. I've just written some things here.
Starting point is 01:55:22 Tigerland, which we actually mentioned last week, which is technically not a war movie because it's all set in training camp oh yeah uh bridge over river quay uh the thin render line i think is better than saving private ryan and i the great escape even though it's historically inaccurate and whatever i think it's just a bloody rip rollicking good it is a good time yeah movie that i really enjoy what do you think of three kings when was the last time you saw that i like three kings a lot yeah yeah good it is a good time yeah movie that i really enjoy what do you think of three kings when was the last time you saw that i like three kings a lot yeah yeah good it is good but it's what is it it's one of the no i think it is good it was spike jones directed and it's got cluny and uh some other yeah yeah um i feel like that's one of those movies where i think if i re if i re-watched it i would enjoy it more but i think at the time it was pitched as like a comedy.
Starting point is 01:56:06 Oh, really? It was pitched as an Ocean's Eleven style comedy, I think. It was before Ocean's Eleven, wasn't it? Well. It was like 99. I don't know. But in my mind it was pitched as that. But it was definitely pitched as like it's three dudes
Starting point is 01:56:17 and they're in hijinks and doing a heist in the desert kind of thing. Whereas in actual content it was quite grim. And that's why I liked it. The realities of war. But at the time it was like, we're going to steal Saddam's gold. Here we go, boys.
Starting point is 01:56:29 And there is that. There is certainly that. But also people get shot a lot. They really do. Yeah. There's a really quite a harrowing scene where somebody gets shot and they have like a,
Starting point is 01:56:38 you see the organs. Yeah. But there's somebody who gets shot and there's like a, they have a device in their body that to reinflate the lungs and they lungs and they've been thrown by the wayside and nobody else can get to them and they're dying and then somebody's got to reinflate the lung.
Starting point is 01:56:51 It's really quite something. It's great. Yeah. Anyway, is that the show? That's a whole show. Thank you, everybody, for listening. Thank you, everybody, for saying a nice thing on the internet and tweeting at us and bloody telling a friend
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Starting point is 01:58:36 Oh, my God. When is it going to be, though, Mason, as I said to you, an International Men's Day? November the 8th. Yeah, but when for men? I think. I don't know. Like an International Men's Day for men. Yes. For sure. Yeah, but when for men? I think. I don't know. Like an international Wednesday for men.
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Starting point is 02:00:06 Okay, so next week we're going to talk, we're going to review battery charges because James is going to buy every battery charger on the internet. Let's see what's up. We're going to review them. It's going to be a tax write-off somehow. We're going to kiss them. While they're plugged in? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:17 That's pretty cool. I know. We're going to turn this into a Jackass style show. That's right. We'll just lick charges. Yeah. Good. All right, yeah, so see bloodshot, I guess. You don't have to. No, you really don't. Yeah. Don't worry. We just lick charges. Yeah. Good. All right. And yeah, so see Bloodshot,
Starting point is 02:00:25 I guess. You don't have to. No, you really don't. Let's, yeah. Don't worry, we'll spoil it for you. Okay, here's the thing. I don't think there's going to be
Starting point is 02:00:31 any spoilers in Bloodshot ultimately. Right? I mean, what's there going to spoil? He gets Bloodshot and then he's like, you made me this, but guess what? It's actually that.
Starting point is 02:00:40 I'm going to punch your head off. You thought you could control me, but I'm controlling. Took away my memories or gave me memories. Well, I'm going to give you a memory. You thought you could control me, but... But I'm controlling... Took away my memories or gave me memories. Well, I'm going to give you a memory of me punching you in your nuts. Bam. You know? Do you reckon they're going to call him Bloodshot?
Starting point is 02:00:53 Do you reckon he's going to get the big dot on his chest? Do you think it... He's going to have the white skin? Yeah, at the end, I reckon. Better. Yeah. Do you think this is the start and the end of the Valiant Cinematic Universe? Yes. Me too. You never know. Which is is a shame i want to see a ninja movie i want to see an exo manor war movie i want to see a turok dinosaur hunter movie no these are all good i want to see a magnus robot
Starting point is 02:01:15 fighter movie that's all the valiant movies i want to see that's it yeah that's right cool ah but you know thank you you don't care if they're bombs? I just want to see them. I want to see them. For good or ill. Just break out all the dinosaur prosthetics and animatronics from Super Mario Brothers. Easily done. Bring them back, you know. You're practically making money.
Starting point is 02:01:34 That's right. All right. See you guys. Grab that gem, you guys. We'll see you next week. Goodbye. 110%. Yeah.
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