The Weekly Planet - 331 Superhero Showdown 7
Episode Date: April 20, 2020Support the show, watch what you want, and protect yourself with ExpressVPN at https://www.expressvpn.com/weeklyplanetWe back and in fully fledged quarantine madness for a new Superhero Showdown! Also... news of Disney Plus blurring butts, Quibi, Sam Raimi on board for Doctor Strange 2, Joss Whedon for Fantastic Four, John Krazinski joining the MCU, a first look at Dunc and Justice League Dark but a HBO show. Thanks for listening.H8Mail Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J285pyrXOQYSuggestible Podcast: https://aca.st/cf053a0:00 The Start2:48 Comic Con Cancelled4:20 Disney Plus Butts7:01 Quibi?12:12 Sam Raimi on Doctor Strange 213:45 Fantastic Four Director14:59 John Kranzinski Mr Fantastic16:49 Back on Trank!19:45 First Dunc images21:45 Justice League Dark TV show26:57 SUPERHERO SHOWDOWN!1:32:27 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:38:16 Letters It’s Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP Itunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanet TWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGH Amazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet
where we talk movies and comics and TV shows.
My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday.
With me as always is my co-host Nick Mason.
Thank you very much.
How are you holding up?
The listener, not you.
You're fine.
You seem fine.
I'm alright.
I'm actually doing alright, yeah.
I think I've settled into a routine.
It seems I've been doing this for what feels like 100 years, you?
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah. I've also had a little bit of help as well been doing this for what feels like 100 years. You? Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
I've also had a little bit of help as well because Chloe's sister's moved in.
Oh, there you go.
To assist us as well, which is taking a bit of a burden off the old ball and chain, which
is, I'm pointing at myself.
Are you the ball and chain?
I'm a burden.
Oh, yeah.
That's, yeah, maybe.
Yeah.
So, no, I'm not doing too bad.
What about you?
I'm doing all right. Good. Yeah. You get a routine. What happens is you, yeah, maybe. Yeah. So, no, I'm not doing too bad. What about you? I'm doing all right.
Good.
You get a routine.
What happens is you get a routine going.
Yeah.
And then you go a little bit mad from the routine.
Yes.
Then you switch up the routine.
Then you go mad from that routine.
And then you do a podcast.
Yes.
And now's the perfect time to do a podcast.
If you're a celebrity, if not, shut up.
Shh.
If you're not, shh.
What we want is more celebrities doing podcasts with bad audio quality.
If they ever get good audio quality, we're doomed.
I don't know what we're going to do.
I don't know.
Just keep doing this, I guess.
Just morally doing that.
But anyway, I hope all the listeners are doing all right.
Yeah, me too.
Let us know.
Keep us updated.
It feels like there is progress in most parts of the world, which is really good.
So don't run outside immediately though because you'll you'll
get it you might get it you might get it yourself or somebody else yeah well that's the dilemma as
well it's kind of like you hear that things are turning you hear that things are turning a corner
and you're like well time to run out in the streets yeah don't do that you'll get hit by a car you will
you forgot to look because you've been inside for too long that's right every time i watch a show
it's made pre this time we live in,
I'm like, oof, like it's just people at a bar.
And I'm like, oof.
What are you doing?
I can't do that.
Don't you know?
Don't they know?
It seems like they don't know.
I'm like, oh, simpler times.
Side note, how good's going to the pub going to be?
Oh, mate, I cannot wait.
When your children are grown up in 20 years.
In 20 years, mate.
I'll pencil it in a date, obviously, very tentatively. But I cannot wait. Yeah, right. But for me, it'll be, I don't know, pretty soon, I cannot wait. When your children are grown up. In 20 years. Mate, I've penciled in a date, obviously, very tentatively,
but I cannot wait.
Yeah, right, but for me it'll be, I don't know, pretty soon, I hope.
Hopefully, yeah.
You know what?
I will not go to the pub until you go to the pub.
This I swear.
I'm just kidding.
I'm going to the pub as soon as this is over.
I know that.
You mean this show?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So here's something that is over, though.
Comic Con has been cancelled for the first time in 51 years.
Sad woo.
Yeah.
For the first time in how many years?
51.
51 years.
I didn't know it was...
But then when you think about it, it's 2020.
Yes.
So it makes sense that it would start in the late 60s.
That's after you start Trex and you're...
No, it's not the late 60s, though.
51 years is 2020, so that's like the 80s. Oh, my God. I also thought it was the 60s. When you went 51 years, I went, oh, my God. No, it wouldn't in the 80s. No, it's not the late 60s, though. 51 years is 2020, so that's like the 80s.
Oh, my God.
I also thought it was the 60s.
When you went 51 years, I went, oh, my God.
No, it wouldn't be the 80s.
It'd be 69.
Okay.
Yeah.
Do you just want me to say that?
Or did you really do bad math?
No, I didn't.
I've lost my capacity to do maths.
Why would I need to do maths right now?
There's no reason.
Some people get upset when you say maths.
Oh.
But I agree with you. It is maths's math but it's whatever it's arithmetic no it's arithmetic oh yeah it is too yeah you're
right so look people were saying that part of the reason it was so long something to do with
insurance and whatever so they had to wait to delay it to get them oh i see right i don't know
i didn't look into it because it doesn't matter to me it's just not happening so people are kind of calling for an online component which
could very well happen you do a virtual hall h yeah put it on zoom put on zoom get a million
people looking at it so how many people can you put on zoom at the one i think it's eight but you
can have maybe you can have bigger groups like watching a thing i don't zoom within a zoom zoom
within a zoom but I know there's
some data breach stuff that people have had, but I don't
know. Again, these are things I did not
look into. Well, it's not part of the purview of this
show. Exactly. Red Hot Comic Book Movie
News in buttholes. Well, speaking
of, Disney Plus be
blurring butts. Oh yeah, that's
right. Yeah, that's great news
for people who don't know. And I guess
this occurred I mean, this would have happened
when Disney Plus came up, but I guess nobody has looked at this movie.
The movie Splash.
Yeah, people have only just looked at this movie.
The movie Splash with Daryl Hannah as a mermaid
and Tom Hanks as a regular man,
they've censored Daryl Hannah's butt in this movie.
But in a very...
Weird way. Yeah. Because what they've done, so in the movie, if you haven butt in this movie. But in a very... Weird way.
Yeah.
Because what they've done, so in the movie,
if you haven't seen the movie,
she's a mermaid, but she comes on land, she's got legs,
and there's a few shots of her from the back.
She's got very long blonde hair,
and it sort of goes down to her butt.
Yes.
So what they've done in this instance
is they've extended the hair
using computer-generated image technology.
It's almost flawless.
Below her butt.
It's almost flawless. It's almost flawless.
You'd be heartless to press the notice.
Except in the sense that it looks like she's got a big pair of fur underpants on.
That's what it looks like.
But maybe not even on?
Yeah, just maybe stapled to her legs maybe.
Yeah.
That's weird.
Yeah.
So I think there's a better solution to be would be a crop in that situation.
It would not be a good crop.
Like a crop top. Like a crop top.
Like a crop top on the day.
That's what they should have done.
Yeah, absolutely.
They didn't think that far ahead.
But no, I think if you cropped the scene
it would be less obvious.
Right.
But it just looks atrocious.
Or you should be
maybe okay with your kids
maybe seeing a butt.
Yeah.
It's fine.
Everyone's got one
to the best of my knowledge.
Even mermaids.
Yeah.
So that's a good lesson
for everybody.
So I think it's just made it a bigger deal Even mermaids. Yeah. So that's a good lesson for everybody. Yeah.
So I think it's just made it a bigger deal than it is really.
Yeah.
But it makes you wonder, doesn't it, what else they're taking out in Disney Plus?
No, I don't care.
Okay, what about this?
I learned this week or maybe last week.
Did I mention this on the show last week?
Apparently they've Iron Man, Iron Man 2 and Thor.
Yeah.
They changed the film.
Yeah, the new releases of those movies have had the film grain taken out.
Yeah.
Because those were the three Marvel Studios movies that were made on film.
Yes.
The only ones before they switched to digital.
Yes.
So they look more film.
Yeah.
And somebody's gone through and sort of slapped a filter over them.
They look weird now.
Yeah.
I haven't actually looked at them.
Yeah.
Look, when I said I don't care, I meant
I don't care to look.
I think it's not a good idea. I think whenever people
go and alter films, there's
of course the outrage, but there is something about
seeing a film and it's
all the original butts that were in it.
All the original butts, exactly.
That's right.
Maybe that'll be the new thing
that kids find out in the woods.
Just original copies of splash on dvd we play this on they say but then they go oh playstations have dvd players that's right
we'll just play it on that yeah now you mentioned this before the show and i've just written it
down because i need someone to explain it to me yes uh quibi what is it i keep hearing people
going boo boo we hate this you've made a very
uh dramatic leap there and assuming that i know what quibi is why did you bring it up i just wrote
quibi and i put a question mark because i'm not entirely sure what it is it appears to be a short
form streaming service so it's like netflix it's got original content on it but all the content is
like 10 minutes long so it's like episodes of things but they're 10 minutes long. So it's like episodes of things, but they're 10 minutes long. And the main selling point,
as I understand it,
is you can watch it on your phone in landscape.
You can also watch it in portrait.
Excuse me?
You can watch television.
I said, excuse me?
You can watch television as it was intended
in portrait mode on your phone.
Well, when I was a kid,
there was a Casio portable television.
Oh, yes.
And it was like the size of a Game Gear, but it was sideways.
So I guess it was the size of a Game Boy.
Right, yes.
And that's all I wanted.
So now I can experience that.
And big aerials.
Do you remember those?
Yeah, of course I remember.
Yeah, because when they had one TV, something like Fireman TV,
oh, my God, it would change everything about me. Yeah. I think we all, oh course I remember. Yeah, because when they had one TV, something like, if I had my own TV, oh my God, it would change everything about me.
Yeah.
I think we all, oh my God, kids these days,
only 90s kids will understand this probably,
or whatever era we're in.
When did we grow up?
I can't remember.
It's not important.
It's not important.
But just the idea of a TV.
Yeah.
That you could hold in your hands. Were you a one TV household?
We had like a, I was going to say a big TV downstairs.
You had a TV.
Well, yeah.
I had a TV,
which would now be considered a small TV in like the lounge room.
And then up like near the kitchen,
there was a very small TV.
I do remember that.
Was that a black and white TV even?
No, I think they were both colour TVs.
Wow.
If we were a motel,
we could advertise colour TV out the front.
Because I do know people that would have like a second black and white TV in the 90s
which seems ridiculous
because it wasn't
really a thing
was it in the 90s?
I also remember
at least one person
I knew
and I couldn't tell you
who it was
who had the situation
of like big TV
which had broken
and they had another TV
they just stacked it
on the top.
Incredible.
I feel like I've heard
that as well.
Yeah.
Anyway, Quibi, short form, but it's original content.
Apparently there's a horror short on there called The Golden Arm.
It's like a Black Mirror-esque.
Oh, and Westworld's in it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But anyway, it's...
Does she become obsessed with her golden arm or something?
She becomes obsessed with her golden arm.
So it's an anthology called 50 States of Fright.
So there's going to be 50 episodes, 50 10-minute episodes,
each of which is in an American state.
And they're all supposed to be spooky stories from each state.
Stop me if I'm incorrect here,
but would you say it's also 50 States of Mind?
Oh, could be.
Yeah.
Because you say Black Mirror and I say State of Mind and you say could be. Yeah. Because you say Black Mirror
and I say state of mind
and you say, ugh.
Yeah.
Makes you think, doesn't it?
But also I'm hoping
it's kind of like
the Sufjan Stevens thing
where he was like,
I'm going to release an album.
Each one is based
on a state in America.
I'm going to do 50 of them
and then he did like three
and he just stopped
talking about it.
What do you think happened?
Do you think he still made them?
I suspect he didn't.
What do you suspect?? Do you think he still made them? I suspect he didn't.
What do you suspect?
I also suspect that.
Yes, good call.
Okay, so is this something you would get though?
Because in all honesty,
some of those things you said doesn't sound terrible to me.
The portrait orientation.
Obviously.
But I'm glad you're open with that because I've kind of forgotten it.
But the idea of a sexy golden arm
that you fall in love with
50 short horror films
I mean there's got to be a couple good ones
so that means someone else will watch it and go
23 and 14 are good
Alabama's good
Hawaii's good
the rest garbage
anyway so this woman gets her arm chopped off
in like a lumberjack-related accident,
and then she gets a golden prosthetic arm.
Spoiler alert.
Terrific.
She falls in love with it?
Spoiler alert.
She loves it so much that she falls ill and dies
from pulmonary gold disease
after refusing to swap the arm for a non-gold one.
There's a great scene in which a doctor...
This is from GQ UK.
Well, thanks for spoiling that.
No problem.
Hang on.
Okay.
And it says...
Did I not say spoiler alert at the front?
I might have.
You say spoiler alert and I'll put it back in.
Okay, great.
Did I say spoiler alert?
Spoiler alert.
Terrific.
There are some great scenes in which the doctor all but warns her
that her blood is more gold than iron,
and when she refuses to remove the arm of her husband,
who, let's remember, loves her more than anything,
simply shrugs as if to say,
shucks, Doc, looks like we've got to let her die then.
This article also says I won't spoil the ending,
so maybe something even spookier happens.
But anyway, this clearly surpasses anything that, you know,
the best of Black Mirror.
Yeah, absolutely.
That's cool. I don't even know where to go with that. you know, the best of Black Mirror. Yeah, absolutely. That's cool.
I don't even know where to go with that.
I mean, any premise can be good, so maybe it's amazing.
I don't know.
Yeah, okay.
That's cool.
Anyway, we've got to move it along.
We can't talk about Quibi anymore?
No.
Okay.
All right, fine.
You going to get it?
I might check it out.
No.
I'll do that thing about the 50 things that I said.
I'll do that.
Okay.
Yeah.
You'll release an album after every stay in America?
It'll be a freestyle rap album.
Oh, that's really cool.
Remember that's what I'm going to do or something?
Yeah, I remember.
Yeah, that's cool.
Sam Raimi has confirmed that he is doing Doctor Strange 2.
Did he confirm that he's directing it or is he just involved somehow?
You know what?
Yes.
I don't know.
But I presumably, you're not going to say, I'm doing Doctor Strange 2 and he went,
oh no, I'm producing.
I'm doing craft services.
Look at all these sandwiches I've laid out.
They're spooky sandwiches.
They're just regular sandwiches.
You expect that from me, Sam.
The expiry date's very close.
So that's pretty spooky.
So I presume.
So that's news that we So I presume. But yeah.
So that's news that we sort of knew and now we know that it to be true.
That's very cool.
Yeah.
Do you think they're going to let him do his Raimi thing?
I hope so.
Don't get him otherwise.
Well, yeah.
I mean, as I understand it,
him and Kevin Feige have been friends for a really long time.
Well, they both worked on Spider-Man.
There it is.
Spider-Man trilogy.
Yeah.
So you'd think he'd be like,
Raimi, you can do your thing.
In a way.
I mean, maybe this is,
you know, maybe they're going to forge
a different direction for the Marvel Universe.
I hope so.
Maybe they're going to be like,
well, the first 20 were very much Favreau.
Yeah.
You know, they started...
Favreau-Wieden-esque.
Exactly.
They started out Iron Man style
and then that sort of set the rest of the movies in stone.
Yeah. And pushed through 20 movies.
So maybe this time around they're like,
let's take it stylistically in a different direction.
Or maybe they'll keep doing exactly what they were doing.
Sometimes.
Sometimes.
Because sometimes they don't.
Also, just quickly on the topic of the MCU,
I know John Krasinski, who's doing his YouTube show,
said like, this is the closest I'll get to play a comic book hero
when he showed some fan art of him as an angel or something
in comic book panels.
Okay.
And then he did the Jim face.
Oh, yeah, that's very good.
Originally the Tim face.
Yeah.
It's cultural appropriation.
He took it.
I don't know why he's not in jail.
So, yeah, people are like, well, he's going to be Mr. Fantastic. And I think he's, it's a, it's a matter of seconds before that
guy is in what an MCU movie, if he's not already. It's astounding that he hasn't been. They
were probably going to announce it at Comic-Con, I'd imagine. So, uh, he would have missed
out on a lot of MCU stuff. Well, he is talked about how he's gone up for, he went up for
Captain America and when he put on the costume, Chris's talked about how he's gone up for, he went up for Captain America.
Yeah.
And when he put on the costume, Chris Hemsworth walked past,
he was like, hey, mate, how you going?
And he was like, and Chris Hemsworth is like huge and cool and tan.
He was like, this is dumb.
What am I doing?
And Australian.
And Australian.
Yeah.
So, but I think Mr. Fantastic would be a good role for him.
And I can tell that from all the fan art.
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Or whatever this angel character is.
Yeah.
No, it's just him, like, I don't know, delivering good news,
what he does on his show or whatever.
Oh, I see.
I can't remember.
Right, right, right.
The other thing is it's rumoured that Joss Whedon
is coming back to do Fantastic Four.
Ah.
Again, if that is true,
that would indicate that they are taking this
in a different direction
because I know he was forced into certain things
for Age of Ultron.
People hate Age of Ultron.
I think it's about as good as the first one.
I hate Age of Ultron.
Yeah, but I think that's the reason why it's not as good
because it's about the same.
It's mostly the same, yeah, right.
But I think it's fine, honestly.
Yeah, it's the worst of the Avengers films.
It's the worst of the movies.
One of the worst movies, yeah.
Is it worse than Fantastic Four 2015?
No, it's better than that.
That's not the worst movie.
Speaking of, we finished all those, didn't we?
We sure did, yeah.
And then thinking that we were going to move on to the Bond franchise
for Caravan of Garbage, it was winning.
Yes. We were ready to go. And the Bond franchise for Caravan of Garbage, it was winning. Yes.
We were ready to go.
Uh-huh.
And then Scooby-Doo shot ahead.
Right.
So now coming up for the next two weeks, the Scooby-Doo live action movies.
And you, spoiler alert, did not care for Scooby-Doo 2002.
Fuck that movie.
Wow, all right.
Not good.
You know what I did?
Never done this before.
Yes.
I took out, there's a moment near the start where I say, I fucking hate that movie.
And I edited myself Disney style to say, I hate that movie.
Wow, you fur underpandered yourself.
Yeah, I kept it in the extended audio one because I figured this is a thing that kids are going to click on.
So that's the dad in me when, look, call me a sellout if you will, Mason.
James, you're a sellout.
I said, if you don't have to.
No, I was aware of that.
I knew I didn't have to.
I knew it was optional, but I decided.
I looked into my heart and I went, you are a sellout.
You didn't even pause, though.
No, I've known for a long time.
Okay, good.
That's been pre-loaded.
That's been locked and loaded for a number of years.
Just waiting for me to ask.
Because you didn't want to just say it, I assume.
No, I wanted to wait.
It'd be weird if I just came out with it.
Yeah, exactly.
So anyway
That's coming up
Soon
Cool
On Tuesday
Yeah
So anyway
Josh Trank
Is he back on Trank
Because Capone
The Al Capone movie
Is coming to VOD
May 12th
And obviously
Coming to VOD
Doesn't mean that it's trash
It's just the times
That we live in
The trailer looks good
I think
So what's the deal
In this one
It's the
It's after His criminal career I think And So what's the deal in this one? It's after
his criminal career, I think, and he's in
a nursing home. This isn't like
Bruce Campbell's Baba Hotep
in which he plays an Elvis Presley.
And then gets younger through magic? Yeah,
but he's in a nursing home and then a mummy
is after him. This is based on
I don't think it's like that, no. This is based on true
events. Okay, right. I believe so.
See, it makes me think that I don't really know enough about Al Capone.
That's so embarrassing.
It's very embarrassing, right?
Because, look, all I know is he'd done a lot of crimes.
He did a lot of it.
And then they got him for tax evasion.
Yeah.
So I'm wondering how long did he get in jail for that?
Yeah, I don't know.
I assumed it was life in prison.
I can look it up.
Yeah, please do.
Or you can watch the movie. Oh, yeah. Well, I'll just wait here I assumed it was life in prison because it was a locked... Yeah, please do. Or you can watch the movie.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I'll just wait here
until it comes out on VOD.
All right.
Well, you can't wait here, Mason.
You've got to go back
to your home, obviously.
Yeah, you're right.
That's the thing
with a lot of these gangsters are.
Yes.
They're so fucking ugly.
Like, I know they wear
the nice suits and whatever,
but it's...
Jesus.
Do you think that's why
they turn to a life of crime?
Because of the...
Just, like, slovenly.
They all have boxer's noses.
But I feel these days like it's easier to conceal a weird face because you can grow a beard or whatever.
You couldn't grow a beard back in gangster times.
You could, but then you'd have to be a weird mountain hobo.
I don't know.
I can't.
This Wikipedia is huge.
But he killed a lot of people and et cetera.
And that's enough, isn't it?
I think it is, yeah.
Watch the movie
instead of me
reading a Wikipedia synopsis
ok but the
general plot
of this movie
is
seems to be that
he's
the protagonist
thinks he's faking
this senility
and he's got some
treasures out there
yeah
what's he got?
I couldn't tell you
a chest of gold
like a pirate
is what I think
so that thing is
we've got a whole bunch
of images for Dune.
Or is it Dune?
Was it June or June?
It's officially dunk now.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Thank goodness.
It feels good
to have that settled.
What did you think
of the images?
Capone was convicted
on three counts
of income tax evasion
in 1931
and was sentenced
a week later
to 11 years
in federal prison.
There you go.
And did he die in there?
No, fined $50,000
plus $50,000. $50,000.
That's chump change.
Plus $7,600 for court costs and was held liable for $215,000
plus interest due on his back taxes.
The contempt of court sentence was served concurrently.
Oh.
Yeah.
You learn something new every day.
You really do.
Spoiler alert for that movie.
Do you reckon that'll be the end?
We charge you $50,000 and $7,600 in court fees and also in back taxes.
And he's like, okay, will you take it from these big bags with dollar signs on them?
Yeah.
Like, I guess, okay.
With blood on them?
Yeah.
The movie is two hours and 11 years long.
And it's filmed from outside the prison.
Terrific.
So the movie Dunk,
what do you think of the images?
Looking good. They're also splitting it into
two movies. Looking bleak, but I feel that's
kind of... That's Dunk for you, isn't it?
That's absolutely Dunk for you. Dunk in Idaho for you, isn't it?
Yeah, it's Dunk's time to shine.
He said he's the Han Solo of this movie.
Did he say that? That's what he said.
Which is weird, because it's also got
Oscar Isaac, who was the Han Solo of the Star Wars movies.
Han Solo was the Han Solo of those movies, Mason.
Was he?
I mean, for at least one and a little bit.
All right.
So I'm really looking forward to this,
and I'm torn because I want to cover...
I feel the torch has passed from Han Solo to Han Solo.
It's a rank like James Bond.
I think it's passed with a wry smile.
That's how it's passed.
That's how it's done.
There should be a side story set in between the original trilogy
and the sequels where Han Solo attempts to pass it to Poe Dameron
but Lobot gets in the way of the wry smile
and he becomes a sexy swashbuckler for a while.
There's just like,
you know,
it's just a,
just a movie where sexy alien girls are just like caressing his,
caressing his robot ears,
you know?
And then he,
then he loses it.
Then he loses his powers again.
He accidentally gives it away or he does it for the good of the sequel
trilogy.
I feel like he's, he sacrificed himself in comics before trilogy? I feel like he's sacrificed himself in comics before,
so I feel like it's in keeping.
Oh, is he one of those...
He was a normal dude and his things took over.
Yeah, but is he one of those characters in Star Wars
that has died in multiple versions of the continuity?
I don't think so.
In the newer one, what happens is a great Lando comic.
It's one of the best.
It's by Charles Soule who did the Darth Vader run.
But basically, he gets injured and when he's close to death,
his implants kind of take over.
His robot ears, please.
Robot ears take over.
They're technically called robot ears.
So he was a cool dude.
Oh, yeah.
I smiled, but then I took over.
Okay, wow.
Anyway, Dunk looks great.
News from the J.J. Abrams camp, though, with HBO,
these are some of the shows that have been announced.
Duster.
Wait, how is J.J. Abrams involved?
He's producing and writing and directing some of this.
And he's got a billion dollar deal or whatever.
Yeah, something like that.
It's about a getaway driver for a crime syndicate.
It's called Buster.
Duster.
Oh, Duster.
I was thinking of the kids' British comic book Buster, which I read.
Was it good?
It was dumb. Yeah. Buster which I read was it good? was dumb
yeah
Buster's the son of Andy Cap
you know the wife beating drunk
I didn't know that
he is
so the other one was Overlook
a series featuring characters from The Shining
okay yeah
have you ever seen Doctor Sleep?
no I never did
it's good you should watch it
I will
definitely watch it
I have a copy somewhere
yeah great
it's also on all the streaming services
at the moment
that's handy
and the other one is
a Justice League Dark TV series.
Oh, yeah.
That's all we know about that at this point in time.
But that's confirmed.
That is confirmed.
That is a salacious rumor.
Yeah, that sounds really good, to be honest.
I'd be very happy with that.
Who do you think is going to be on the Justice League Dark team?
Constantine, Deadman, Swamp Thing, Satana.
They might throw in like a Batman or a regular Justice League member.
Do you think so?
Yeah.
Really, Batman?
Well, that's what they did apparently in that Justice League dark animated movie recently.
Oh, yeah, right, right.
We talked about it.
We did, yeah.
So that's the only reason I say that.
I haven't even seen that movie.
Maybe.
Like as an actual, like a continuing recurring character or just he appears every once in a while?
Yeah, or maybe he sets it up at the start
and then he goes for coffee.
Okay.
I do wonder if they would work in the Swamp Thing
and Swamp Thing and Constantine,
because you could.
That's true, you could.
They probably won't,
but I think both of those shows,
despite being cancelled,
were well received by fans.
That is true.
And for the performances alone,
but also for the shows alone.
So that means we're going to get another version of Constantine.
Yes.
So not the movie version, the County Reefs version,
and not the Arrowverse version.
We're going to get an additional version.
Yes.
What did you say?
The movie version?
The Arrow version?
What's the other version?
Those two versions.
Yes.
Well, he had his own solo series.
Because Legends of Tomorrow is the same guy, right?
Yeah, he got folded into Legends of Tomorrow.
Cool.
I mean, he should be called Legends of Today right now
because he's not from tomorrow, is he?
It's true.
They should have had a discussion.
Most of us are actually from today,
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That's how it works, right?
There's been so many episodes of this stupid show.
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Once again, we do not know the dimensions of that.
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These heroes or villains notice one another,
determine the other one to be a threat,
and attempt to defeat the other one by the means they would normally do so.
Yes.
There you go.
They have all the equipment they would normally have on them?
Correct.
So, for example, if Marty McFly appears,
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Yeah.
If Mad Max appears, he's probably got the DeLorean.
But if Tintin appears, he probably doesn't have the DeLorean.
He's probably got some sort of weird Belgian DeLorean.
It's no good.
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The wheels are in the middle of the car.
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It's powered by whatever they drink as espresso in Belgium.
I don't know what that would be.
I don't know either.
Probably regular espresso, but with some sort of weird...
Probably put cinnamon on it or something.
What are you up to there?
Right?
What are you up to?
If you're Belgian, let us know.
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If you could, if you wouldn't mind.
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Should we do a different take for the YouTube version? So had a kind of a running theme this week that actors who play
different characters going against each other so we've got a few of those but it's not strictly
that it's just whatever should we get into it this is from max on uh on the gmail weekly planet
pod at gmail.com dr strange versus smalg oh my goodness bened Benedict Cumberbatch joints. Cumberbuddies. Yeah, right. Okay, that's interesting.
Well, Smaug, what are his powers?
He's fireproof, I assume, because he's a dragon.
Yes.
He loves hoarding gold.
Yep.
He sleeps through it.
Again, that's not a power.
That's a...
It's a trait?
It's a trait.
It's a...
A weakness?
It's a disorder.
Okay, sure.
Yeah, okay.
We call it billionaire's disease.
Oh, yeah.
Scrooge McDuck has it.
Yes.
So he's also slept through an extraordinarily long amount of time.
So you're getting him in the middle of that sleep?
Yes.
Does he need a bit of time to awaken from his slumber is what I'm saying,
or is he snapped awake and he's ready to go?
Well, I'm going to assume there's a very loud crowd around the football field.
So he's up fairly quickly, I think.
Do you think Doctor Strange would behead him with a portal immediately?
You think Doctor Strange hasn'thead him with a portal immediately?
You think Doctor Strange hasn't seen something like this before?
Well, I mean, okay, so we also should say it's these characters at the peak of their powers.
Yes.
So this is like... Unless specified otherwise.
Yes, this is like Infinity War Doctor Strange.
So this means that it's Smaug who's awake and he's stretched.
He's awake and stretched, exactly.
That's right.
He's got a headband on.
He's got sweatbands.
He's got a pair of brand new Nikes.
Two pairs of brand new Nikes?
However many he needs.
Well, you know what?
He's got at least one and he's hoarding another one.
That's true, yeah.
So what do you think, though?
Do you think he could knock his soul out of his body?
You think this is a short fight?
Oh, absolutely.
Doctor Strange has fought a guy.
Remember that Dormammu in Another Dimension?
He died like a billion times.
It's true, yeah.
He's not fazed by something like this.
A regular dragon?
Get the fuck out of here.
I enjoy the fact that you like regular dragon.
Wouldn't he be more inclined initially to be like,
I should catch this dragon for study or something?
No, it's a threat.
He'd kill it.
Straight away?
He'd kill it.
Okay, well, I guess then it's down to how would he kill it?
Beheading.
Oh, maybe.
He could make a million of himself.
The dragon doesn't know what it's going for.
Yeah, you're right.
Because, I mean, I guess Smaug exists in the world of sort of Tolkien magic.
Yeah.
Which is more subtle.
It's like bright lights and fire and stuff like that.
He's expecting Doctor Strange to summon an eagle and fly away or whatever.
And Strange is like, I'll just loop a ring around your head and shrink it so your neck
bursts.
Exactly.
Well, he could put him in a weird mirror dimension and leave him there.
That's true.
Yeah.
I just, there's so many things that Doctor Strange could do.
He could use that whip thing he does.
Yep.
With a million whips.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
He nearly, like he did pretty well against Thanos who could do literally anything.
That's true.
So this guy's not a
problem.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah.
So that's what I think.
What if Smaug sits on
him?
Yeah, but he wouldn't.
And he could just duck
into a portal.
I feel you're avoiding
the issue.
What if he did, though?
Well, he'd just duck
into a portal.
It wouldn't be a
problem.
Yeah.
That's true.
Yeah.
The only thing is, you
wouldn't want Doctor
Strange to leave his
body, leave his lifeless
body, to do, like do some astral plane shit,
which I don't think he would do.
There's no reason that he would do that.
He'd just use lasers.
He'd just use lasers.
He'd use magic lasers.
Exactly.
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What about this one then?
I'm ready.
From Chow.
Batman versus the T-800.
Batman doesn't know it's a robot at first.
How quickly do you think Batman would determine that the T-800 is a robot?
The instant the Batarang bounces off his head.
So he's going for the Batarang to the head immediately?
Yes.
I think he could tell by like his gait.
I think he's probably got like a glasses thing, like a detective oh i see yeah maybe we're talking like peak batman he's probably
he could probably tell by like the indentations in in the ground that this guy weighs like 400
pounds sure yeah and then he could kill that's true because he has no qualms with killing a
robot he's happy to do it yeah do you remember that time he took out bloody, um, it's in
Under the Red Hood movie.
An Amazo. He takes out an Amazo. I mean, he has
something with Nightwing, but an Amazo
is not, an Amazo is much more
skilled than a Terminator.
I mean, I guess. Terminators are fast, though.
Yeah, but an Amazo's got, like,
lasers and magic and all sorts
of... He's got Amazo lasers, you're right.
Amazo lasers, yeah.
Because Amazo has, like has the powers of various characters.
But also I feel like the Terminator could survive a couple of bat grenades.
Yeah.
And then choke Batman to death.
If he could get his hands on Batman.
Yes.
Do you think Batman would go fist to fist with a Terminator?
He doesn't get close enough to anything that can kill him, really.
He tries not to.
Emotionally?
Yeah. He's been burnt. Emotionally? Yeah.
He's been burnt before.
It's true.
Am I incorrect in that?
You're not incorrect.
Yeah.
And I'm not trying to just defer to that rule of Batman always wins,
even though he does.
It's true.
But the reason is because I think he's got enough stuff on him
and he's seen enough to know what this is.
Bearing in mind, the Terminator also probably has a gun.
Yes.
You've forgotten that.
But a lot of people have guns in front of Batman.
Yes.
You think Batman's taking out the light straight away?
Not that that matters with the Terminator, actually, because the Terminator's night vision.
Right?
Yeah.
I think there's a longer fight than you think.
Okay.
So how do you think it's going to go then?
Do you think Batman's getting in close?
I don't know. Do you think he's going to go for a kick to the head or a sweep of the knee?
I don't think he would, no.
I think he'd know enough not to do that.
Yeah.
So he's just using his bowlers and all his bombs?
See, here's the thing, though.
What if he runs out of bat grenades?
How many bat grenades does he have on him?
Do you think he'd find a way to pry open the Terminator's skull to get the chip out?
No, he doesn't have enough time.
Yeah.
Or money.
Actually, no, he has enough money.
He has enough money, yeah.
Okay, fair time. Yeah. Or money. Actually, no, he has enough money. He has enough money, yeah. Okay, fair enough.
Right.
You don't think he could grappling hook him and just tie him up to the goalpost?
No.
Tamino's too strong.
Was that naive of me?
Yes.
Okay, you're probably right.
What if he got a grenade inside his mouth?
That could kill either of them, to be honest.
Yeah.
Well, then that is whoever got there first would win
you're right i don't know i just feel like batman's got enough he's probably he's also
got tasers you can knock out a terminator with electronic charge which terminator all of them
three specifically in terminator 3 do you think and that's the peak of terminators that's true
well exactly peak terminator 3 is the one that has the plasma charge bombs inside it.
Yes.
So he's got at least two of those, bear in mind.
Yeah.
So he's got one to kill Batman and one for afters.
I was going to say, but they don't use them offensively,
but that's not actually true.
They do.
That one in that movie does that exact thing.
So do you think he'd waste one of them on Batman?
I mean, who else is he?
I mean, well, I guess he's...
Probably, I guess.
I guess if...
Also, I guess we have to factor in that if this Terminator doesn't have a mission,
he doesn't really care about anything.
Yeah, right.
Okay, sure.
But don't you think, though, he gets there,
and then he locks on to Batman,
and immediately he's like, kill.
One goal, kill Batman.
Yeah.
That's probably true, yeah.
I think even if he set off one of those things,
I think Batman would be away from it.
He survives explosions all the time.
He's got that cape that can survive explosions.
That's true.
Yeah.
Also bearing in mind this version of the Terminator
has tearaway stripper pants on.
Of course he does.
I don't know how that's going to help him in a fight.
But he does.
He does, it's true.
It's important, yeah.
Yeah, you could knock the glasses off him and he's like
my glasses
because that one really cares about glasses
for no reason
yeah that's right
that's his one weakness
yeah
I think it's Batman
I mean it's probably still Batman
yeah
yeah
okay
what's next then?
as long
look here's the thing
okay
as long as he's got the detective vision
yeah okay
I feel
and also
yeah no
and it sort of depends on what era of Batman as well.
Yeah.
If it's the 70s Batman.
Oh, no.
He's paced.
That's not even...
He's absolutely paced.
Forget it.
Don't even worry about it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
I feel maybe in future we need a different set of rules for Batman.
Because he can...
Oh, like pick a Batman.
Yeah, maybe pick a Batman.
Okay.
Just because...
If we've got another Batman in here, we'll pick a Batman.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
Fair enough. Okay. Fair enough.
Okay.
I can appreciate that.
What have you got?
This is from Jake Hall.
Okay.
This is a rare three-way, but I'm allowing it.
This is Taika Waititi's character in Green Lantern versus Korg versus imaginary Hitler.
From Jojo Rabbit.
Okay.
Who's imagining Hitler?
The kid, I guess. Yeah, Jojo. That means the kid's there. The kid is there,
yeah. Do you have to kill the kid?
You have to kill the kid, yeah. But do you know
that Hitler's there? Yes.
But he's not really there. It's
magic. Okay, so Korg
knows that imaginary Hitler is there.
And he knows that he has to kill the kid to kill
Hitler. Yes. I don't think he...
Or knock out the kid.
Yeah, okay.
And what was the first one?
Taika Waititi from Green Lantern.
Yes.
What does he do?
He's the best friend.
He's a quirky best friend.
He's just impressed by Green Lantern suits, right?
He's impressed by Green Lantern suits and nothing else.
Well, Korg's a rock monster.
Yeah.
With a club.
But as previously established, Taika Waititi's character in Greenland is impressed by Greenland
powers and nothing else.
Yeah, but you think a rock monster running at a boy, that's probably, that's finished.
Like, kills him or not, that's not a fight.
That's a trouncing, right?
It is absolutely a trouncing, yes.
Yeah.
And the other one is a human man from 2010. That's a trouncing, right? It is absolutely a trouncing, yes. Yeah. And the other one is a human man from 2010.
That's exactly right.
Who's impressed by Greenland and nothing else.
Yeah.
So that's, yeah.
Do you think imaginary Hitler has any abilities?
No.
I mean, no, he gives you confidence.
Yeah, okay.
Or false confidence because he's a Nazi.
Yeah, okay.
Well, maybe Jojo.
Jojo.
Jojo Rabbit also threw a grenade and blew off half his own face.
That's true.
He's not exactly winning any awards for being great at throwing grenades.
Yeah, if anything, I feel he would encounter the scarred rock monster of Korg and maybe they would learn to be friends.
They'd form a bond.
And beat up Togo Matita's character from Green Lantern.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Two on one.
Yeah.
Never even thought of such a thing.
Three on one.
Because they've teamed up with Hitler also.
Okay, you're right.
Wow, this has really turned.
Okay, it's a resounding victory for Korg, Jojo Rabbit,
and an imaginary Hitler who team up to beat up, look, I'll be honest,
the devastatingly handsome Taika Waititi.
And I'm sure that's why they're beating him up.
Yeah, absolutely.
He's very tan in that movie and just jet black hair.
Yeah.
Oh, my goodness.
I mean, some would argue he's even more handsome now.
Yeah, he's got that going on too.
But he was very handsome back during Green Lantern.
And he'd be there and he'd be very, here's the thing, he's handsome.
Yep.
And he's dismissive of anything that isn't Green Lantern's
costume. And so he'd be a bit
smug and disdainful. Oh yeah, he's like
this, I've seen a rock monster, I've
seen a man in a very green outfit.
Those guys are going to beat the tar out of him. Yeah.
Yeah. Sorry, whatever your character
was called in Green Lantern, Taika Waititi.
It's neither here nor there. It's irrelevant. Yeah.
Jonathan White says
Invisible Man 2020.
Slight spoiler alert for that version, if you haven't seen it.
You should see it, if you haven't.
And versus Jessica Alba Sue Storm.
Oh, that's pretty good.
Now, they're both invisibling.
Yes.
But one is in a very valuable suit.
Yes.
It's Chanel.
We're talking about Jessica Alba, right? That's right, yes. Is that what the suits are in that? No, I don't know. Yes. It's Chanel. We're talking about Jessica Alba, right?
That's right, yes.
Is that what the suits are in that?
No, I don't know.
Yeah.
I'm just in a civvies.
Yeah, sure.
But the thing about Sue Storm is she's force fields as well.
That's true.
That guy's not getting anywhere near her.
Yeah.
Well, here's the thing, though.
I also feel like Sue Storm, Jessica Alba Sue Storm, as written,
is a little bit naive.
Sure, okay.
And I feel like she wouldn't expect anybody else to be invisible.
Also, I wonder, here's the thing I wonder.
Do they appear invisible when they get there?
Oh, that's a good question as well.
Okay, no, you're right, because if they both arrive,
okay, no, here's the thing I wonder.
Because Invisible Man 2020, whenever he's got the suit on, he's invisible.
He's never not invisible.
Until it gets damaged.
Yes.
So he's going to show up invisible, whereas Sue Storm may not show up invisible.
And maybe he follows her home.
Well, maybe.
Because that's what that guy's all about.
That's his whole deal.
But she can't go home.
She's just on a football field.
But what I'm saying is... She can't go. Why can't she go home? Because that's what that guy's all about. That's his whole deal. But she can't go home. She's on a football field. What I'm saying is...
She can't go.
Why can't she go home?
Because that's how this works.
What I'm saying is that she would not expect anybody else to have invisibility powers.
Okay.
Because she's never encountered anybody else with invisibility powers.
But he shows up.
He's invisible.
He's like, there's a woman.
But I hate that.
Yeah.
I'm not on board with this at all.
Okay.
So you think he's coming in for the kill straight away then?
Probably, yeah.
Yeah, you might be right, actually.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's interesting.
Here's the thing, though.
He also doesn't have anything on him because he's invisible.
That's true because all of the weapons he used, he acquires.
They're improvised, yeah.
Yeah, he's grabbing a knife.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay, here's the...
So if he grabs her to choke her...
She'll know that he's there. She's force-wielding straight up, right? Yeah, she'd pop his head off. Yeah. Okay. Okay, here's the... So if he grabs her to choke her... She'll know that he's there.
She's force-wielding straight up, right?
Yeah, she'd pop his head off.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, you're right,
because he...
And also he's ultimately a coward.
Does he know that she's invisible as well,
that she can do any of that?
Probably not.
Probably not.
I wouldn't think so.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he's got the advantage immediately.
He's got the initial advantage, yes.
He's overconfidence. Yes. Which is his weakness and his suit that doesn't work sometimes.
Yes, exactly.
And on his first attack, she force-fields up and tears his head off.
Pretty much, because as soon as he attacks her,
unless he kills her in one punch, which I don't think he can,
because he's not super strong.
He's just a regular man and a coward.
She would know that there's another invisible person there.
She would be able to see him.
I wonder if she can see invisible things automatically.
Well, I mean, she can probably see the things that are invisible the way she is,
but maybe not a technological thing.
But she can see things that are invisible once she knows to look for them.
Is that true?
I think so.
Oh, I didn't know that.
There you go.
And I think she can make invisible things visible also.
Yes.
So this is a short fight.
Okay.
And she can also,
so she can also like touch a wall and make it transparent.
So I don't know how that's handy,
but imagine if there was a wall that she could do that with.
Oh.
If it was behind a wall.
Right.
Or behind maybe some goalposts.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because that's where he's going to go. His refuge is going to be some goalposts. Yeah. Yeah. Because that's where he's going to go.
His refuge is going to be some goalposts.
That's true.
And he's going to be like, phew.
I'm in this weird pocket dimension that is just a football field.
Do you think also she's going to see the grass flattening as he's walking?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's good.
And also she doesn't have to touch the ground.
No.
The force field above the ground.
But can her force field be invisible if she's in the force field?
Presumably, yes. They can, yes. Okay, good. Yeah. Terrific. Yeah. And she'd kill ground. But can her force field be invisible if she's in the force field? Presumably, yes.
They can, yes.
Okay, good.
Yeah.
Terrific.
Yeah.
And she'd kill him.
Yeah, she'd kill him.
Also, Reed Richards is on the way.
He's too late, though, because he sucks.
She's already done a murder.
She's murdered him.
What do you got?
This one's from Alexander.
Okay.
The Great?
Yeah.
The Conqueror from hundreds of years ago.
Yeah, absolutely.
That's who this is.
It's interesting where he is of modern-day pop culture.
Did he carve it into a wall knowing that this was going to happen?
Yeah, that's right.
He's also prophetic.
This guy's good.
I don't know anything about the past, though, as we've previously established.
You don't need to.
Here's a Chris Evans showdown.
Okay.
What about Captain America versus his character from Scott Pilgrim?
Okay, Lucas Lee.
Lucas Lee, yeah.
Strong.
Yes.
Agile.
Yes.
Multiple versions of himself.
I feel like he's always got them on him.
He's always got his entourage.
Yeah.
Would you disagree with that?
No, I would agree with that.
I know it's kind of cheating.
But he's the thing because that's the thing, because that's...
That's part of his powers.
That's part of his powers.
And vague as they are.
Yes.
No?
Excellent skateboarder.
Do you think this is the best...
Just ahead of time,
do you think this is the best Chris Evans combo?
Do you think this is the best Chris Evans versus?
Do you think there's a better version of this?
I think people would say, like, a Johnny Storm and whatever.
Uh-huh, yeah.
But I think, no, I think this is the best version, yes.
Because Lucas...
Both of these characters,
their power set doesn't really adhere to the laws of physics,
but in different ways.
Yes.
Captain America has a shield.
It can basically do whatever he wants.
He can just flee it and it'll come back to him or not,
depending on the time of day and the weather, I guess.
But Lucas Lee is also...
He's doing big comic book punches.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah.
Okay.
And Scott Pilgrim is also an amazing fighter.
Right.
And he's able to best him.
And the only way that he is being beaten is through being tricked.
Ego tricked.
Yes.
Yeah.
Do you think he would have the upper hand on Captain America physically?
Because he might, I think he's probably got, he's probably more enhanced
than Captain America is.
Because the laws of physics
do not apply to him.
Yes, exactly.
I think you're right.
And he's got eight guys with him.
Yes, that's true.
I mean, Captain America
has taken eight guys
any day of the week.
That sounds,
you can take that
whatever way you want.
Yeah, it sounds hot.
But no, I think,
do you think Captain America
would be,
Captain America also
doesn't really have an ego
the way that Lucas Lee does.
Lucas Lee's all ego, yeah.
Do you think he'd use that to his advantage?
Maybe.
I think he could lure Lucas Lee into fighting one man at a time.
Okay.
Because that's...
I thought you were cool and tough.
Exactly.
I feel like his ego...
He's got the ego of a comic book villain.
Yes.
Like a real traditional one.
Yes, he does.
I feel like you could nail him down that way.
He'd be like, you wouldn't dare fight me man to man.
I think he would.
Also, I guess those other guys, they're mostly cannon fodder, aren't they?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because they're more stunt performers, right?
They're more stunt performers, yeah.
And, you know, because Scott Pilgrim's able to take out, like,
multiple versions of them, you know, fairly easily. Not all of them, but he's, you know, and they're hitting him's able to take out, like, multiple versions of them, you know, fairly easily.
Not all of them, but he's, you know, and they're hitting him with skateboards.
Yes, that's right.
Whatever.
How's he using the skateboard?
Is he grinding off of the goalpost?
He's grinding off the goalpost, yes.
But to what end?
It's just impressive.
Yeah, it is, I guess.
It would wow Captain America, I feel.
Captain America's shield also versus a skateboard.
That's not, they're not the same, are they?
We don't know if it's a magic skateboard
or not. Well, we see they break
when he hits Scott. Okay, well, that's true. When they're breaking on his
arm or whatever. Yeah, right. That's true. Do you think
Captain America could bait him into doing
a grind on the goalpost and then behead him with
his shield? Absolutely he could.
But also, would Captain America
kill Lucas Lee? Because he's
a movie star. He's not a... Yeah, because he's not
killing a Batroc the Leaper,
is he?
International terrorist.
That's true.
Why would he kill this guy
who looks like him?
But is Lucas Lee a killer?
I'm not sure.
I don't know if he is.
Yeah, he probably isn't.
I feel like most of the
fights in Scott Pilgrim
just end in a beatdown
and like a loss of honour.
Well, no, because Scott
Pilgrim kills them.
Because they all
turn to coins.
They turn to coins, you're right.
I think a lot of those people in those situations...
But I guess they respawn somewhere else.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But maybe it's also that...
I think they are trying to kill Scott Pilgrim.
Because he...
I assume, because he kills them.
That is true, yeah.
So probably.
I mean, Jason Schwartzman kills him at the end.
Yeah, that's right.
He does, doesn't he?
Yeah.
And presumably the rest are also... Dead. Trying to kill... Yeah, dead and also trying to kill him the end. Yeah, that's right. He does, doesn't he? Yeah. And presumably the rest are also...
Dead.
Trying to kill...
Yeah, dead and also trying to kill him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How do you mourn in the Scott Pilgrim universe
knowing that maybe your best friend was killed
and turned into a coin?
I don't...
I don't think that...
I think Lucas Lee is looking at Captain America
like he could kill him
the way that you would kill a video game character.
Right, jump on his head.
Yeah, whereas Captain America is durable in a way that Scott Pilgrim maybe isn't.
You're probably right, yeah.
And he's got his shield for blocking.
He does have a shield for blocking, that's true, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't think Lucas Lee would underestimate him,
but I think Captain America could bait him into doing something stupid.
Yes.
And then he'd probably even accidentally kill him,
and then he'd turn to coins and he'd be like,
I don't understand this.
Yes.
Is this a modern day reference?
I don't understand.
But it's over and it doesn't matter.
Yeah.
There's nobody there to explain it to him.
I think it's Lucas Lee.
Yeah, okay.
What about this one?
Wait, it's Captain America.
Yes. Doesn't matter,
does it? No. If we're talking people from
the... But if I hadn't caught that, the answer would be Lucas Lee.
That's right. Adam Collins
says, in the spirit of same actors,
Austin Powers versus
Shrek. And if we're talking Shrek at the
height of his power, we'll be talking
about before he has kids.
Because after that, ruined.
I think it's probably the height of his anger and power and strength
is before he falls in love.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Someone's taking the red pill this week.
After the lose.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
If we're talking red pill then, it's after he gets heartbroken,
when he's at his agriest.
Yeah, right.
That's probably, yeah.
And after that, he's yanked out of that and he's dropped into a field
with Austin Powers.
You're just saying the height of fighting powers, not the height of.
But I'm saying what if, and look, I don't have kids.
Maybe he's like, well, I have to fight hard because I've got kids
and I have to go back to my kids.
So now you have to make the decision.
When would you be more powerful?
If you didn't have any kids or if you were protecting your kids?
I'm fitter now than I was before kids.
Right.
And I have more to lose.
I would say probably now.
There we go.
Okay.
So it's after Shrek.
It's after Shrek.
I thought about it.
You're right.
The other thing is I think Shrek would also be not impressed by whatever Austin Powers is.
He's like, I don't understand your references.
A weird British man in Union Jack underpants.
Shrek's also doing references.
Oh, that's true.
And Austin Powers is like, I understand some of these references,
but not all.
Okay, so what era Austin Powers?
This is modern Austin Powers.
Probably three.
Okay, all right.
So not 1960s Austin Powers.
No, because I think also the rules of love would apply.
And you've got to give him someone worth fighting for.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah.
Austin Powers also has a gun and Shrek does not have a gun.
But is Shrek bulletproof?
We don't know.
I don't know.
Has he been shot by a cannon maybe in one of the Shrek movies?
He's got an arrow in his butt.
So I don't think he's bulletproof.
Okay, right.
But would a bullet kill a Shrek?
Like a little Austin Powers bullet from his Walther PBK or whatever it's called.
Yeah, you reckon?
Or...
It'd be like killing a cow.
You'd have to hit it, like, right in the head.
I'm going to Google Austin Powers gun and see what gun he uses.
Because they'll be...
I'll check the celebrity...
The movie firearm database.
Okay.
Gun. I think it's like the movie firearm database. Okay. Gun.
I think it's like the James Bond gun.
Yeah, it's a Waltham P.B.K.S.
Yeah.
Okay, right.
Yeah, it is.
There you go.
It's very Bond.
Yeah.
I don't think that'd kill Shrek.
No.
You have to factor in as well that when we imagine Shrek,
I guess we imagine him as a little animation,
but he's a monster.
He's huge.
He's huge. He's huge.
He's like seven feet tall, maybe?
Oh, okay, right, right, right.
He's at least 6'6".
I would say he's probably more closer to seven.
He's also insanely strong.
That's true.
But then again, Austin Powers, he's going up against a fat bastard
or a weird henchman or whatever.
You know what I mean?
But how does he ultimately defeat Fat Bastard?
By relating to him.
That's true.
Do you think he would try that with Shrek?
Yes.
Shrek, like an onion.
He'd be like, Shrek, we probably both have dad issues.
Shrek's like, my dad tried to eat me or whatever.
We're both Michael Myers.
We're both Michael Myers.
We're Mike Myers.
We're not Michael Myers.
No, that's a different Mike Myers.
Yeah, okay.
I see what you're saying.
So do you think they'd get to a point where they're both crying and drinking?
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then Austin Powers
would shoot him in the head.
Well, that's the other thing is
Shrek is not a killer, really.
Yes.
Like, he's a lot of bluster,
but he just wants to be left alone.
That's true, yeah.
Whereas Austin Powers,
big killer.
He thinks killing's groovy, baby.
Remember that time
he killed that guy
with the steamroller?
Yes.
He could have stopped,
but he didn't.
He ran that dude right over.
He's shooting henchmen left and right.
I think it comes down to the cold-blooded nature.
Even if they relate to each other,
Austin Powers would go,
one of us is leaving here.
And I'm going back to Beyonce, quite frankly.
Or Heather Graham or whatever.
Which we haven't won.
It doesn't matter matter not the first one
because she was a fembot
oh yeah
that would be bad
yeah
okay
so there we go Mason
yep
two in the back of the head
for Shrek
I'm afraid to say
okay
here's a pretty good one
alright
this is from John Hatz
this is maybe a deeper cut
okay
this is the world's
greatest actor showdown
Russell Crowe
as Dr Jekyll from the
mummy love it versus russell crowe as six point sid 6.7 from the movie virtuosity where he's all
the world's greatest serial killers serial killers and monsters and whatever condensed down into one
artificial intelligence but also he's put it being put into like a nanotech glass body yes in the
real world
and eats glass to replenish himself that's correct yes any glass on that field not on a football
field wait what's a goal post made up i'm gonna google fiberglass right fiberglass probably that
count um yeah i think so yeah so he's eating that fiberglass if he gets injured we don't know yet. Yeah. What are the powers of Dr. Jekyll?
Exposition.
Exposition, certainly.
He's got a lot of glass jars filled with references to future movies.
Oh, no, he's doomed.
Dr. Jekyll doesn't even know what's coming at him.
Like, he's used to, like, a supernatural being.
But he's used to supernatural beings.
Yeah, but he's not a supernatural being.
He's a technological-based being.
No, I know, but he's odd, though, isn't he?
Yeah.
Have you seen a photo of him?
Google a photo of him real quick.
Virtuosity.
Yes.
Yeah, I know.
I know who he is.
I've seen the movie Virtuosity coming at me like I haven't.
Okay.
Yeah.
He also escapes into, like, a virtual world at the end, doesn't he?
Maybe.
Or something.
He's like, I'm still alive.
I'm a virtual boy.
Oh, yeah.
Not like the virtual boy.
Well, there's no virtual boys on the football field.
Unless it was set in 1996, then there might be at least one.
Well, okay, just to make this canon,
you get transported back to 1996 or so.
Well, look, the only thing a virtual boy is being used for is the glass.
He's eating the glass out of it.
He's eating the glass, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.
And if he gets put in the cartridge,
like if he escapes to the cartridge of the virtual boy,
Dr Jekyll just put him in a jar of formaldehyde and he's dead.
Exactly.
And the other thing is, no one would ever use that cartridge on anything.
That's true.
So he's just trapped in it forever, if he's trapped in a Virtual Boy.
Yeah, it's true.
Anyway, who's going to win this?
Dr. Jekyll, that guy's a serial killer.
He's every serial killer.
And he's 6.7.
Yes, and he's insanely strong.
I know Dr. Jekyll is.
Dr. Jekyll also has to inject himself. No, that's to stop himself.7. Yes. And he's insanely strong. I know Dr. Jekyll is. Dr. Jekyll also has to inject himself.
No, that's to stop himself from turning.
Yes.
But even Tom Cruise.
Even Tom Cruise, you say?
Well, I was going to say regular man, but he's not.
He's got the mummy powers.
He's got the mummy powers.
Some of at that point.
Yes.
And they're kind of one to one.
They're both quite strong.
Yeah.
They're both very strong.
How strong is a nanotech man made of glass?
How strong is Dr. Jek man Made of glass? How strong is
Is Dr Jekyll
Has he got regenerative powers?
He seems as strong
As a drunk Russell Crowe would be
Wow that's insane
Right?
But like peak Russell Crowe
Yeah
Like he's just
He's done a gladiator or something
Yes
So he's peak gladiator
He's peak strength
And also like
The Cronulla Sharks
Have just lost
At the rugby or whatever And so he's mad too Yeah Is that his Cronulla Sharks have just lost at the rugby or whatever.
And so he's mad too.
Yeah.
Is that his football team?
I don't know.
It doesn't matter.
Have you seen the bod on Virtuosity Russell Crowe?
Not that it matters, but he's also insanely fit outside of his glass-based abilities.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Hmm.
What happens when you punch Virtuosity, when you punch Sid 6.7?
I think it like reforms or whatever until he runs out of glass. Hmm. What happens when you punch virtuosity, when you punch Sid 6.7?
I think it like reforms or whatever until he runs out of glass.
Okay.
But there's a lot of glass, as we know, in that football field already.
I'm sure people will write it and say, well, technically fiberglass isn't whatever.
But we say it is.
We say we're blocking you.
You've been blocked preemptively.
We probably blocked you to something else earlier, many years ago.
Yeah, okay.
So,
I think it's virtuosity.
I don't think Russell Crowe
from The Mummy,
he doesn't look at that guy.
That's his official name,
Russell Crowe from The Mummy.
Yeah, he may as well be.
He doesn't,
he sees that guy coming
and he's not like,
that's a Dracula,
that's a whatever.
If anything,
he's probably like,
that's a curiosity.
Yes.
What kind of jar can I put this in?
We also really haven't factored in that a lot of these people are going to be like,
why is somebody who looks a lot like me coming at me?
We have to put that aside, I guess.
Okay, yeah, I guess that's probably true.
Unless it plays into account, I guess, for the actual thing.
Yeah.
Okay, yeah, I see what you're saying.
I see what you're saying.
Yeah, but I think it's virtuosity because-
Do you not think that this version of Mr. Hyde is probably regenerative as well?
Probably. Okay, here's regenerative as well? Probably.
Okay, here's what I also think, though.
That version of Mr. Hyde is all about recruiting people to his side.
He's got a speech ready to help those monsters in the dark
and where the people that push back against the monsters.
Oh, he's going to open with a speech.
And Glass Boy just beheads him.
It's probably true, yeah.
That's me.
Okay, but I'm assuming that he's in Mr. Hyde mode.
Yeah, he would be, yeah.
But I think he'd still be able to behead him.
You think he'd do the speech?
No, I'm saying you think he'd still do the speech.
Oh, no, he probably wouldn't.
He wouldn't do the speech.
He'd be like,
you know who I am?
Yeah.
And Virtuosity was like,
eh, maybe.
Do you think,
what if,
okay,
I'm going to be willing to give it to Sid 6.7
unless Sid spills his pint.
Like maybe he's been teleported in from the pub.
I think you're putting too much of Russell Crowe's
own personality
into these characters.
That's probably true.
But he's,
like he is.
I mean,
it's just Russell Crowe.
He's mostly just Russell Crowe
but the version of that
in The Mummy,
he's very,
he's very intense.
Yeah, he is.
If you recall.
Yeah.
Alright,
we'll give it to Sid 6.7
unless there's a pint involved.
Yeah.
There might be.
There might be.
Yeah.
What about this one
for people who are the same?
Lee Wilson says, Raiden from Mortal Kombat versus Connor McCloud.
So that's Lambert v. Lambert.
Yeah, yeah.
Lightning v. Lightning, he's written.
I mean, of a sort, sure.
Of a sort, yeah.
But I mean, Raiden can use lightning all the time.
Yes.
The God of Thunder from the Mortal Kombat universe versus Connor McCloud from the Highlander universe.
But if it's Connor McCloud, do you take him at the end of Highlander 1
where he's won the prize?
Oh, and he's mortal again.
Probably not.
But then in later movies he becomes immortal again.
So do you take him from that or do you take him from when there's still
other Highlanders left?
I think you take him from then.
I think you take him from the one good Highlander movie, Highlander 1.
My understanding of Raiden is one of his...
Highlander 4.
Highlander 4 is good also.
Yeah, well, that's what they...
And some of the TV series, right?
Yeah, TV series is good.
It's on Amazon Prime if you haven't seen it.
I have some of it, maybe.
Maybe I haven't.
We've talked about it at the very last...
We have, yeah.
Very French.
Yes.
Because of French tax credits, probably.
To kill a Highlander, you have to behead them. That's correct. One of Raiden's... Well, no, that's not, probably. To kill a Highlander, you have to behead them.
That's correct.
Well, no, that's not true.
You can kill a Highlander, but they will come back unless you behead them.
Yes, okay.
One of Raiden's fatalities is head explode.
Is that a Highlander killer?
Yes.
Does he also have to get him on the ropes to do the fatality?
Presumably.
By the rules of Mortal Kombat!
That's true, yeah.
I think you should, yes.
But also we've seen Raiden in cut scenes do stuff
like kill people, not just at the end of a fight.
Well, here's the thing we've got to factor in.
That's sort of...
If we're going by the rules of Mortal Kombat,
he's only as good as I am at playing Mortal Kombat,
which is not very good.
Or he's only as good as the movie version.
Yeah, I think he's the movie version.
And he doesn't even go to the tournament, does he?
He's like, I can't enter this realm for whatever reason.
Yeah, probably.
I don't really remember.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then they're like, reptile.
We have to watch that.
Remember that bit?
Okay, I feel like in this instance,
because also generally speaking,
when an immortal kills another immortal,
they get them on the ropes and then they cut their head off.
Yes.
Because in the Highlander universe,
it's usually against the rules to just shoot somebody
and then cut their head off while they're dead.
It's rude.
It's considered rude and bad.
But there's people in that universe who would do that, right?
Oh, yeah, of course.
There's a bunch of them, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So do you think Raiden would shoot him in the head
and then take his head off?
No, I don't.
Oh, no, because I feel like he's very much,
because he's all about the Mortal Kombat tournament.
Yeah, it's true.
He would have shut it down a long time ago.
He would have called in some inspectors, probably.
Some interdimensional combat inspectors to be like,
this isn't up to code, let's shut it down.
We're fining you, Shao Kahn.
That's what he'd do.
But he seems to be on board.
He's like, the rules are the rules.
So I think both of them would follow the rules of
you get the other guy on the ropes and then you kill
him. So I feel like this
would be quite a fair fight.
Would it be fair? Because one has a sword
and is mostly man
based in terms of his abilities.
He's mostly man based, it's true. But Connor McCloud
doesn't have magic beyond regenerative
abilities. I mean, he's stronger
and faster than a normal man.
Okay, but is he stronger and faster than Raiden?
But then again, who is stronger and faster than anybody
in the Mortal Kombat universe?
Well...
Like, Liu Kang is like, he's a guy, but is he?
Right, but also...
Because he's magic also.
Traditionally, Raiden is a god,
but he puts himself into human form in the Mortal Kombat tournament.
Okay, sure.
So he's human, but he also has lightning powers.
Okay, gotcha.
So he's probably... He's as durable as anybody else in Mortal Kombat tournament. So he's human but he also has lightning powers. So he's probably
as durable as
anybody else in
Mortal Kombat.
Okay fair enough.
Which is a stupid
move in my opinion
because you could
just show up as a
god and kill
everybody.
Because then what
Raiden doesn't
realise is he has
to fight Goro.
Right?
And you've got to
do a bunch of
jump kicks just to
keep that guy at
distance.
constantly yeah.
As I found out
recently.
And then Shang Tsung
turns into Goro.
It's a nightmare.
So I think it'll be a fair fight towards the end.
So one guy's got a sword and one guy has light.
He can shoot lightning and also do that Superman move across the screen.
That's true.
But he goes, I am one of them.
Exactly, yeah.
It's a good game.
It's a good game.
Yeah, man, it's good.
Boy, this is a tough call. I think it's Raiden. You think it's Raiden? Yeah. Yeah. It's a good game. It's a good game. Yeah, man, it's good. Boy, this is a tough call.
I think it's Raiden.
You think it's Raiden?
Yeah.
He probably, I think he'd be surprised.
Like, he might kill him and not realise that he had killed him completely.
Right.
But when he comes back, he's like, I'm going to do one of my fatalities.
That's true.
Because he'd go to leave and he can't leave because the fight's not over.
And he's like, what's going on?
He turns around and Connor McLeod's alive.
Well, here's the thing also.
Raiden can only kill somebody after one round after two rounds conor mcleod can kill somebody after one round you would kill raiden if you beheaded him
right yes could a sword just a regular sword behead raiden i presume it could right i would
say so yes maybe he'd think he killed him and then conor mcleod gets back up and beheads him
and i feel like conor mcleod would go
this is probably a highlander because that's the only supernatural thing that i know
yeah right so i gotta behead him and he doesn't have a sword so that's gonna make this much easier
it's true look i'm not i'm not super i wonder about that because i guess
i think the immortals are only allowed to sword fight each other
like only allowed well i think you can't raiden is immortal no i know but i think the idea is
you can't come up to somebody who's unarmed like if you're a man of honor you can't just come up
to somebody who's unarmed and be like i'm gonna cut you to pieces okay sure yeah but i think you're
right i think if raiden killed him yes then conor mcleod... I imagine Raiden would go lightning bolt through the chest.
Straight up.
That would be number one move.
And that would kill a normal person, I would think.
Yes, but it wouldn't...
It would only kill him temporarily.
It would kill him temporarily and he'd get back up again.
Yeah, because none of Raiden's opening moves are beheading.
That's true.
That's true.
But he is stronger than a regular person.
Yes.
Could he probably take a lightning bolt
and it wouldn't go through him?
Because I feel like it might be able to.
I think it would go all the way through him.
Okay.
Well, actually, because bullets do, don't they?
Yeah.
He's been riddled with bullets.
We see that in the movie.
Yeah.
But I also don't think Raiden's lightning bolts are proper lightning bolts.
They're not like from the sky lightning bolts.
Because he hits like normal people with them.
That's true.
He'll hit like Striker.
He'll hit a dog that comes into like striker he'll hit a dog
that comes into his yard he'll let a dog in the yard okay that's interesting well maybe it is
conor mcclellan because raiden is dumb enough to put himself in a human body and go into a tournament
constantly being tricked have you noticed yeah he's being tricked by all the villains and he's
always like you're never gonna believe there's the greatest threat than ever. Shang Tsung is back and no one's like,
didn't we deal with this?
Isn't this your job?
Yeah.
This is the one thing that you have to do.
Aren't you,
haven't you been around since the beginning of time,
right?
Yeah.
What are you doing here?
Did you even start this tournament maybe?
I don't know.
I think it might be Connor McLeod.
I think he would go for the beheading early on.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Because all you have to,
here's the,
because also generally speaking, an immortal will wait for the first available opening and just go for the beheading. Okay. Yeah. Fair enough. Because all you have to, here's the, because also, generally speaking,
an immortal will wait
for the first available opening
and just go for the beheading.
Yes.
So,
regardless of who it is.
Yes,
I think so.
Yeah.
So,
Sean Connery
in those movies
was eventually going
to have to fight
Christopher Lambert.
Yes.
And they were like,
cool with it.
But they were like,
we'll stick together
because,
bros before
other Highlanders.
Yeah.
That's the expression goes, right?
Bros before immortos, which is what you get.
That's the prize.
It's your immortos.
That's so cool.
It is cool, right?
Yeah, it's cool.
I like it.
It's Connor McLeod.
It's Connor McLeod.
Okay, I'm with that.
Also, you could probably bait Raiden with some like-
Some witty banter.
Some light homophobia.
Yeah, it's true.
What, do you want to go on a date?
I remember that movie.
It's a good one, I think.
This is more...
This is the same actor, but it's also the same character,
just at different points in time.
Nishit says Thor versus Fat Thor.
Right.
So is that Thor, Thor, one Thor?
Is that Peak Thor?
Probably in terms of confidence and abilities.
Maybe Dark World?
No, I think Peak Thor is Ragnarok Thor.
But he doesn't have...
Oh, you mean with all his lightning abilities?
Yes, that's Peak Thor.
Okay.
Yeah.
But Peak Fat Thor has both Mjolnir and the other axe thing.
The other axe.
Jarnsblorn or something?
And it also, Jarnborn.
And it also seems like.
No, it's Jarnsblorn.
Jarnsblorn.
It also seems like, even though in Ragnarok, Thor's like, they're like, Thor, you didn't
even need your weapon.
You could use the powers within you.
Yes.
It seemed like he really did need those weapons.
Right.
Ultimately, right?
Uh-huh.
Sure.
So do you think fat Thor is then just Cutting through him
Good question
Could Thor summon
The hammer
A regular Thor
Yeah
Yeah
Who's more worthy in that case
Fat Thor's got more humility
I feel right
That's true yeah
He's through more
Yeah yeah yeah
I feel like we'd probably
Or would the hammer go to
Who needs it most
That's a really good question.
Because it's kind of vague.
Isn't it though, yeah.
And depends on the universe.
The inscription says, whoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of
Thor.
But it doesn't say anything.
Maybe if you turn it the other side, there's a list of like.
There's a weight limit?
There's a weight limit and a waiting list.
Like it explains, it explains the queuing system for Thor's hammer.
So it's like in the event if there are two people who are both worthy to possess the a waiting list. It explains the queuing system for Thor's hammer.
So it's like in the event if there are two people
who are both worthy
to possess the power of Thor
and they both happen to be Thor
because of some sort of
time-related situation,
you go into a queuing system.
But if you've summoned the hammer
but then you summon again,
you automatically go to the bottom
of the queue again.
So don't summon it twice in a row.
But it's only the two of them.
So nobody's outside the field summoning the hammer.
No, that's true.
Maybe if Captain America's there
it goes to him regardless.
Do you think he's more worthy than both of them?
Yeah, probably in a lot of ways.
Wow.
Yeah.
Because he is the most humble, isn't he?
Isn't that the idea behind it?
It's not how humble you are.
It's part of it though, isn't it?
No, but it's worthiness as a warrior.
But it's worthiness also in terms of the person that you are.
And Captain America is one who's, at the start of those movies,
he's getting beaten up in the alley by a bully.
And by the end of that, he's fucking king hitting Thanos with a magic hammer.
That's true.
His journey is incredible.
Yeah, yeah.
And Thor puts on some weight. That's true. That's a magic hammer. That's true. Like, his journey is incredible. Yeah, yeah. And Thor puts on some weight.
Like, there's a big difference.
That's a different discussion.
That would also be a funny what-if scenario
if weedy Captain America is fighting a bully in the alley
and all of a sudden Thor's hammer comes to him.
What would he do?
And he just clocks the bully into space.
That'd be fun.
That'd turn the tide of the war fairly quickly, I would imagine.
I'd imagine so.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He did it with some muscles.
Imagine what he could do
with a magic hammer.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah, look, okay,
so there's no Captain America.
It's just,
it's Ragnarok Thor
versus Fat Thor.
Yeah.
Ragnarok Thor,
I feel,
is more rage filled.
He's got so much regret
and loss.
But he's also,
he's damaged. Right. Like he's got PTSD. But other loss But he's also He's damaged
Like he's got PTSD
Fat Thor is drunk
That's what I'm saying
But I don't think
I think he summons his suit and he's not drunk
Like alcohol would just burn out of his system
I don't think that would matter
Okay right
We've got to figure out a system of worthiness
Because I also don't think that's how it works.
I don't think it comes to the person who's more worthy.
I think if you pick it up and you –
I think if you grab it and you're worthy, you can pick it up.
You can't just summon it from –
No, I don't think it's a more –
Because some people think that Captain America summoned it.
I think he picked it up.
But some people think because you don't see it that he summoned it to his hand.
Yeah, right, right.
I think he picked it up.
I agree.
Okay, well, let's say, yeah, right, right. I think he picked it up. I agree.
Okay, well, let's say that then. Yeah, right.
But what are the rules?
Can we establish a definitive rule for if two people are fighting?
If two people have the ability to summon a hammer, it's in the middle of them.
Who does it go to?
Is it a contest of wills?
Does it break?
Is it a contest of wills?
I don't think it is a will thing.
Does one person get the handle and one person gets the mallet?
Which would you prefer? The mallet. Yeah, obviously. Because I could use it is a will thing. Does one person get the handle and one person gets the mallet? Which would you prefer?
The mallet.
Because I could use it half a brick style.
Would it shatter if they're both calling each other and they're both Thor's?
Probably.
Yeah.
Yarnborn, anybody can use Yarnborn.
Oh, that's cool.
As well.
Because even Thanos uses it.
That's true.
Does that also come back to you?
It does, yeah.
Okay, right.
Who does it come back to then?
I think this might be a fist fight
Because what's going to happen is they're going to fight over the two weapons until they both break
And then it's just going to be a fist fight
I don't think Fat Thor having any weight on him makes a difference
Because he's able to flip a car and fly and do whatever with the hammer
I don't think having 60 pounds on him makes any difference.
I don't think so either.
And we've,
that's kind of proven in that fight where he's not gasping for air.
Yeah,
exactly.
He's fighting it like the same ability that he always has.
If anything though,
he's probably rusty in terms of ability.
That's true.
From not fighting,
but I don't think his strength is,
would be diminished.
Yeah.
Significantly.
Also,
they're probably both lightning proof.
Yes.
So that's out of the question as well.
Yeah.
This is really... It is a fist fight.
When you really boil it down, it's just a fight between two regular guys.
Okay, sure.
Because they both have the same strength level,
and they both have magical abilities that won't work on each other,
which means it's the equivalent of two blokes fighting in a car park.
Is the weight an advantage or a disadvantage?
Because maybe it's an advantage.
You've got a bit of shock absorption there.
That's true.
So he's hitting you and it's not going straight to your organs.
That's true.
Yeah, you're right.
Do you think either of them would tire?
I think if it's like two regular guys, you would.
Because they're
both at the same strength level that's true you're right yeah yeah 100 ton punch each way
yes yeah you're right okay the only way to settle this is we should get two we should go to like
like the the nearest liquor store yeah and get two guys to fight in the car park just two regular
guys and we need twins and one of them's fat right that's what we need really okay we know those guys i don't want to talk to those guys though so all right let's let's come
with the definitive winner then it might be fat i think it is he's faster too is he no thin uh
thin thor is fast i don't think it matters yeah probably necessarily yeah because you know it's
not always the fastest person that wins. Yeah. Yeah.
I also think that
Factor was so angry.
Yeah, you're right.
So angry.
Yeah.
And he's also got a massive chip on his shoulder.
That's true.
From destroying half the universe.
And I would also say that,
yeah, Ragnarok Thor is Infinity War Thor.
Yes.
In the sense that he doesn't go for the head.
But the end game Thor definitely would.
Yeah.
So I think he's more likely to be a killer
just to be on the safe side.
He'd probably be like,
this is some Thanos illusion or whatever.
I better kill it.
And the other one's like,
this is some Thanos illusion.
Better leave it alone.
Better pull my punches for some reason.
Yeah, for some reason.
Terrific.
What else?
Aww.
Aww.
Aww.
Aww.
All right.
I don't know how much we're going to get out of this,
but I think it's interesting.
This is from Caleb.
Okay.
So it's Wesley from The Princess Bride versus Robin Hood
from Robin Hood Men in Tights because they're both
Carrie Ells characters.
I don't really know a lot about Robin Hood from Robin Hood
Men in Tights, so I'm willing to sub in his character from Saw.
Is he chained to the goalpost? Yes, so I'm willing to sub in his character from Saw. Pre or post?
Is he chained to the goalpost?
Yes, he's chained to the goalpost,
and he's got a saw there.
Okay, well, what's he using it on?
A saw could cut through a fiberglass goalpost.
You think so?
Yeah.
Yeah, eventually.
But he's getting stabbed before he gets through that, isn't he?
By Wesley.
I don't know if Wesley would kill him.
Yeah, he would.
Oh, actually, he's not really a killer, is he? He's more threat. I mean, he's killed a lot of people, presumably. Well, we don't know if Wesley would kill him. Yeah, he would. Oh, actually, he's not really a killer, is he? He's more
threat. I mean, he's killed a lot of people, presumably.
Well, we don't know that. He's the Dread Pirate
Roberts. The idea behind the Dread Pirate
Roberts is you're not really that terrible.
It's the myth of it that kind of
propels people to be scared and hand over
their trinkets and their golds.
And, you know, he fights Andre the Giant,
chokes him out. He fights that Master
Swordsman, knocks him out.
Poisons that little dude.
He absolutely kills him.
But not his fault.
Right.
To be fair.
Yeah.
And the guy from Saw, he's terrified, obviously.
Right.
Yes, yes.
Because he always is.
So we're abandoning Robin Hood in this?
No, let's put Robin Hood in.
Okay.
I don't remember much about that Robin Hood.
I mean, he's got all the Robin Hood in. Okay. I don't remember much about that Robin Hood. I mean, he's got all the Robin Hood stuff.
Yes.
He's like a ridiculous shot, but more so because he's parody level Robin Hood.
Right.
Yeah.
Well, we've got to factor that in.
Yeah, definitely.
He's like a cartoon man.
Is he a killer?
Yeah, I think so.
Then it's probably Robin Hood.
Yeah.
That was pretty quick.
Yeah.
And he can fire projectiles.
Yeah.
But is Wesley? Yes. Knocking those down. Maybe he is And he can fire projectiles. Yeah. But is Wesley knocking those down?
Maybe he is because he's just that good.
He's a great swordsman.
Princess Bride is such a good movie.
It is a good movie.
It's a good movie.
And Wesley's like, guess what?
I'm not left-handed.
And Robin Hood's like, that's fine.
Not an issue, really.
I think Wesley's a better sword fighter.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wesley?
Westley.
Westley. It's Westley, yes. Websley. No, wrong. Websley's a better sword fighter. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wesley? Westley. Westley.
It's Westley, yes.
Websley.
No, wrong.
Websley's dictionaries.
Okay, I understand that.
Do you think Robin Hood would be in fear of Wesley, the Dread Pirate Roberts?
Does he know who he is?
Doesn't give a shit.
You don't think so?
He's a dude in a mask.
He's a dude in a green hat.
Doesn't matter.
It's true.
Doesn't matter to him.
Yeah.
It's irrelevant.
Do you think Wesley could avoid Robin Hood's arrows?
It's Wesley.
Sorry, go on. It's irrelevant. Do you think Wesley could avoid Robin Hood's arrows? It's Wesley. Sorry, guys.
It's Wesley Stipes is his name.
Sorry, what were you saying?
I was saying, do you think Wesley's fast enough to avoid those arrows?
I think he could knock him out of the air with his sword.
He's quick.
He is very quick.
He's doing judo and flips.
Remember?
Yeah, I remember he does judo and flips.
Yeah.
He gets on Robin Hood's back. He rides doing judo and flips. Remember? Yeah, I remember he does judo and flips. Yeah. He gets on Robin Hood's back.
He rides him like a buffalo.
Also, he climbs that rope like hand over hand.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like that's insane.
Yeah.
No legs.
He does it just arms.
That's true.
You ever done a rope climb?
No.
They're very fucking difficult.
I probably have.
I don't believe you.
Yeah, right.
But so he's insanely strong.
That was the previous Mace, though, the legend.
He passed on all those stories to me.
I've never done a rope climb.
Well, normally you do the foothold.
Yeah, yeah, right.
You twirl it around.
Yeah, but he doesn't do that.
So he is a fantasy character also.
That's true.
And he'll kill a rat.
So I guess he is a killer.
Yeah.
Kill a big rat.
You're right.
We don't really factor in because the legend of Robin Hood.
He also died.
And came back.
Yeah, you're right.
I mean, he didn't bring himself back, but we know the pain that he can endure.
Yeah.
What were you going to say?
Oh, that's true.
Yeah, he could probably survive any number of arrows to the chest, probably.
Not the head.
No.
Robin Hood's not going for the head, though, is he?
Not comical Robin Hood.
No.
That's not funny. No, that's true. Hit him he? Not comical Robin Hood. No. That's not funny.
No, that's true.
Hit him in the balls.
Hit him in the balls.
That's funny.
That is very funny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Makes a sproing sound.
Might have a comical boxing glove on the end of that.
You're right, yeah.
Oh, my goodness.
I like that one.
I like it.
I think it's Wesley.
I think it's Wesley, yeah.
Wesley Snipes, yeah.
This isn't two of the same character, but I like it.
Josh Owen says,
an army from Lord of the Rings versus a man in a car.
So this is peak man in a car.
What does that look like then?
Okay, first of all, we've got to define the peak Lord of the Rings army.
Which is the best one?
You would know better than me.
Is it the Uruk-hai?
The half-orc,ruk-hai? Oh.
The half orc half people?
I was assuming human army.
Oh, okay.
Or like, you know, like the allies.
Well, if it's a peak army,
they've probably got elephants and catapults.
Yep.
But how do you hit a car?
Exactly.
It's moving.
It's moving too fast.
Catapults were invented before the car.
If it's peak army and you go...
Okay, let's say it's any army.
Okay.
Well, if they've got elephants, you'd sweep a car over.
That's true.
They're not called elephants.
They're called like a slight variation on that.
Tuscatrons.
Tuscatron.
Tuscatron 2000.
That's right.
Yeah.
They'd sweep a car straight over.
Yeah.
And I feel like a car, it would be a guy who's showing off his four-wheel drive four-wheel drive on instagram oh yeah right you know he's got he's got he's open opens with the
donuts yeah exactly here's the thing though i would would an elephant fear a car i think it
might maybe yeah yeah they're not and then but they're also much bigger than regular elephants
they're like five times the size of yeah yeah yeah I would say let's make it a regular human army.
Okay.
Right.
Okay.
So like you're a.
Okay.
Let's have a regular human,
regular good guy army.
So it has elves and it has.
Sure.
Dwarves and people.
People.
Yes.
Normals.
One dwarf.
One dwarf.
Okay.
There's a magic guy.
Do we give it,
put a wizard in there?
Yeah.
But to what end?
Yeah,
you're right
Okay no wizard
Yeah
No I mean he could be there
It doesn't matter
But Gandalf
Gandalf's not stopping a car
He's summoning
He's just summoning
Oh that's things
He'll stop like a big fire dragon
And he could very easily
Summon an eagle
To just go through the windscreen
Yeah or pick up the car
And drop it into a volcano
Let's say Gandalf isn't involved
Okay fair enough
We'll make it interesting
Yeah
I think you'd only get
So many people deep
Before your car stops
Yeah yeah yeah
And what's your plan?
You drive into the middle and they smash the windows
and drag you out and quarter you?
I think you'd kill like 20 people.
This is quite reminiscent of Ash in Evil Dead 3,
the Dead Eye Army.
He's got a car and a gun.
This guy doesn't even have a gun.
Maybe he has a gun yeah right in his glove box
how do the army and also because the armies of of middle earth they attack sort of braveheart
style like swarms right you can't stop a swarm of men with a no not with a car no maybe if you had
eight cars if you've had eight cars but it's not eight cars versus an army no it's a one man in a
car yeah i think also they'd be on the bonnet.
They'd be smashing the windscreen with the butt of their swords and whatever.
Exactly, yeah.
They'd put an arrow in.
The man would be doing Instagram Live.
Yeah.
He's not expecting any of that.
An elf would get on the roof of the car and be balancing and shoot an arrow through the roof,
and the guy would be shot in the head.
So I think he'd kill maybe 10, 20 people.
Yeah, right. But also, what's the terrain a bog they're fighting on a bog it's a bog or like a craggy
mountain and there's lava yeah yeah he's if anything that guy's just gonna fall into a
into a pit of lava yeah that's why i'm saying four-wheel drive though monster truck it's not
a regular car you know you're right it's not a regular car but that's peak car though isn't it yeah i guess it is that's peak peak car and peak man do you think they'd run car
is the undertaker yes and the peak man is the undertaker the wrestler do you think people would
run as the car comes in yes yeah they'd like kind of initially i think that yeah i think they would
yeah and then they would riddle it with arrows and he'd die. They would, yeah. That's right, yeah.
What else?
Okay, here's another one from a car related.
Cars.
This is from Will Duncan.
He says,
The possessed murderous car from the Stephen King book Christine
versus Kit from Knight Rider.
I don't know much about Christine.
Do you know much about Knight Rider?
Yeah, yeah.
It's a magic car or whatever.
It's not magic.
I know.
Yeah.
It's the Hasselhoff version, right?
Yes, exactly, yes.
Yeah, but not the other versions because there's other versions.
Okay, so what can Christine do?
Christine's a murderer.
Yes.
I'm going to look it up.
Is Knight Rider a murderer?
I'll be honest, I don't know anything about it.
I don't think Knight Rider is a murderer.
I think Knight Rider also needs the go-ahead for things, right?
No, he can operate on his own.
Yeah, but he needs permissions to's not he needs permission to shine yeah but he's not like
he's not so he's not stopping crime by himself like he's not going out there on his own he needs
a prompt to be like meet me around the corner or whatever you know maybe around the corner or
whatever right sure his famous activation phrase meet me around the corner or whatever. Right, sure. His famous activation phrase, meet me around the corner or whatever.
Yeah.
I think Christine,
what's that like got the ghost of a...
I'm going to look up
Christine the car.
Okay.
We'll all look up Knight Rider.
We'll do that.
Okay, here we go.
Okay, I'm ready.
It's got a computer AI,
obviously.
It's got an alpha circuit.
Oh my God.
Which is,
I don't know.
Doesn't matter.
That's irrelevant.
I just read that
and I'm like,
it doesn't matter.
But it can control
his turbo boost function,
which I think is important.
It's got a molecular bonded shell. So it's armored. I just read that and I'm like, it doesn't matter. But it can control his turbo boost function, which I think is important. It's got a molecular bonded shell.
So it's armored.
Yep.
Which I think is going to play in.
It's got pyroclastic lamination.
Oh, yes.
So it's a thermal resistant coating.
Okay.
To withstand temperature.
Christine, the car has been on fire.
That's true.
It's got, like, its power systems are off the chart.
It's got turbo boost, as mentioned. It's got a like, its power systems are off the chart. It's got a turbo boost, as mentioned.
It's got a voice, which I think is distracting.
It's got a voice projection,
so it can project its voice at another position.
Ooh.
Yeah.
Bit of ventriloquism.
Exactly.
Ventriloquism.
It's got an anamorphic equalizer.
That's the thing on the front.
That's the front thing.
I don't know what that does.
It's a scanner, and it can scan wavelengths and x-rays and infrared uh-huh it can hear like special
sounds and stuff on different wavelengths okay uh it can smell okay it's got micro but it's got
no nose how does it smell of oil like a car yeah it smells like your car my micro scanners for tiny
audio and visual uh sensors um it's got cruise control, auto control, pursuit, super pursuit.
It's got pursuit?
How do you say it?
Like a nice pursuit.
It's got a nice pursuit.
So it's got a trunk full of nice pursuits.
Does it sell it at a market maybe?
It's got, not at the moment.
It's got silent mode, which I think is important.
It's got a grappling hook and winch, important.
It's got oil jets and smoke screen. Important.
It's got an induction coil.
So it can produce from under the front car and remotely induce an electric charge.
It's got a flamethrower.
It's got a tear gas canister.
It's got ultra magnesium charges.
So magnesium flares.
It's got high traction drop downs.
Don't know what that is.
Oh, it's for off-road.
It's got a telephone comm link. Oh my God. It's got a traction drop downs. Don't know what that is. Oh, it's for off-road. It's got a telephone comm link.
Oh my God.
It's got a microwave jammer.
Not kind of relevant here.
It can lock the brakes of other vehicles with a micro lock.
Nice, but what about a spooky car?
Yeah, a spooky car without electronics?
I don't think so.
Probably not.
It's got surveillance mode, traction spikes, infrared tracking scope,
a laser power pack, a bomb sniffer, a medical scanner,
a tintable
windows, deflatable tires,
I think that could come in handy, a fuel
processor, a voice stress analyzer,
seat ejection system,
to what end though? I guess you could shoot Hasselhoff
into the car. Passive laser
restraint system, video display
monitors, computer printout,
money dispenser, money dispenser, ultraph monitors, computer printout. Oh, dot matrix.
Money dispenser.
Money dispenser.
Ultraphonic, for a bribe, ultraphonic chemical analysis analyzer.
Do you think it would maybe analyze the spectral forces maybe?
Oh, it could do.
Yeah.
Interior oxygenator, two-wheel ski drive, third stage aquatic synthesizer, so underwater, emergency braking system, and convertible roof.
Wow.
Well, if I can counter that,
Christine is a 1958 four-door red Plymouth Fury
that a high school dork named Arnie Cunningham
purchases from George LeBay for $250 in 1978.
This is from the Stephen King fandom wiki.
Love it.
It is a fancy car, white brim tires, white wool tires,
double headlights, and white trimmed rims,
but it is also wrecked and in need of serious repair,
so he repairs it.
Christine can come back.
Yes.
If you blow up Christine, Christine reforms,
because Christine is...
What do you need to do then to destroy Christine?
Let's find out.
Let's go to the end of the movie, Christine.
Go.
Let's see.
You attack it with a bulldozer. Go. Let's see. You attack it with a bulldozer.
Yep.
You smash it, you crush it into a cube,
and then you drop her into a junkyard.
Okay.
And then at the end of the movie Christine,
it's assumed that Christine is going to repair herself again.
Yes.
Yeah, right.
So you'd have to separate the parts.
Yeah.
Oh, that's's probably it's true
but would night rider have enough would kit sorry have enough implementations and technical
specs to know that that's the case or is he think he's one because i also think once christine
smashes night rider yes kit kit doesn't reform yeah but i don't think Christine... Christine isn't as durable as Knight Rider.
Because he's got the hyper-alloy super super.
Knight Rider could straight up just charge straight through Christine, I think.
Like, not even slow down.
He'd go right through her.
That was the hallmark of Knight Rider back in the days.
Knight Rider's basically indestructible.
So you just go through Christine, I reckon.
And that's it.
Well, she'd reform, I think.
But he's got a winch.
He's got all sorts of stuff.
He could probably...
Pull them apart.
He could pull her apart and put one on one.
It would come back and then he's like, oh, I need to run through it again
and then I need to do this properly.
I was having a laugh before, but this time let's get serious.
Well, I mean, it would open because, again, you're right.
They perceive each other as a threat,
but I think the kit would just because, again, you're right. They perceive each other as a threat, but I think Kit would just be getting bumped like Stampy,
like Christine the haunted car, and he'd be like,
please, please stop this, please.
Stop this.
You don't like this.
I don't like this.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, see, Christine, a powerful antagonist in a world
where you're a regular meat-based human,
obviously.
Very dangerous.
But in a world where you're an indestructible car.
Not as dangerous.
Not as dangerous, I would say, yeah.
This is my last one.
Or they fall in love.
Yeah.
Maybe that's what she needs.
Nah.
You don't think so?
What do you want to do?
What do you want to do?
Like have car babies?
Maybe.
Not everyone who falls in love wants to have kids,
so yeah, maybe not.
That's true.
This is my last one.
It's from Justin Brown.
Okay, I'm ready.
This is a short fight.
The Mandalorian versus Carl Urban, Judge Dredd.
Two guys, helmets don't come off.
And one guy is a really good shot,
and one guy is mostly struggling to get by through the entirety of his Disney Plus series.
He's very tenacious, though.
He's tenacious, but he's a goof.
He is a goof, it's true.
And Judge Dredd is a fucking murderer.
Yes.
Straight up, straight away.
He's not a murderer because he's working with the bounds
of the law that he's invented.
You're right, sorry.
He's an executioner.
He's an executioner in the society that allows that entirely.
I think Judge Dredd appearing would say,
identify yourself, take your helmet off,
and it would just kind of escalate from there.
Oh, yeah, for sure, because Judge Dredd does not take no for an answer.
He'd say, remove your helmet.
The Mandalorian would be like, I won't for vague religious reasons.
And Judge Dredd would be like, well, I'm going to shoot you
because not removing your helmet in the presence of a judge
is instant death or whatever.
Yeah, and obviously he's got the armor that it would bounce off.
But I think he'd find the spots.
He's got, also that gun is insane.
Well, I mean, if this is traditional comic, well, which Judge Dredd are we talking?
Well, Carl Urban.
Carl Urban, Judge Dredd.
Yeah, he's got, that gun's got.
He's got a hot shot.
He's got armor.
He'd shoot it under the.
Armor piercing.
He's got probably.
Let's assume though that he cannot pierce got armor. He'd shoot it under the armor piercing. He's got probably heat seekers? I can't remember. Let's assume
though that he cannot pierce his armor.
But I would think he'd put it under the helmet and shoot
it straight into his head. Yeah. Oh yeah.
Yeah. And the Mandalorian's
got like a grappling hook. Does the Mandalorian have
baby Yoda?
Often he does. He often does. That's the
thing. That does change things a little bit.
Changes things very, yeah, very quickly. I was hoping to wrap
that up, Mason.
thing that does change things changes things very yeah very quickly i was hoping to wrap that up mason well too bad we're doing another 10 minutes yep okay so baby yoda's got like one charge in him
that's true it only works once but it's very effective yes and it can it can hold a big
buffalo type creature yes in the air long enough the mandalorian to shoot it. Stab it. Stab it. Yes. Still its egg.
Do you think if you got Carl... How handy is Carl Urban floating in the air?
Let's say he gets his gun away from him.
Yeah.
How dangerous is he?
How dangerous is who?
Carl Urban, Judge Dredd.
If he's floating in the air without his gun.
Without a gun.
He's not that dangerous, I don't think.
You reckon?
What's he going to do?
Swim through the air?
Maybe.
I guess it depends what...
Like, if Dredd... I guess it depends what... Like, if Dredd...
I guess it depends what the one-charge Baby Yoda has.
Yeah.
Like, if Dredd is like,
you're a baby operating a floating baby carriage
without a license,
the sentence is death,
and shoots a bullet at Baby Yoda.
Dredd's not shooting a baby.
He probably would.
And Baby Yoda stops the bullet.
Yeah.
Maybe that's his one charge.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, you might be right.
And then he's done.
Yeah.
But I mean, Dredd with no gun floating up in a bubble, useless.
Dredd with no gun versus the Mandalorian would still win.
Right.
There's no way he's losing that fight.
Yeah, you're probably right.
He's insane.
Yeah.
He's tenacious.
The Mandalorian gets out of things because he's got friends and luck. Yeah, you're probably right. He's insane. Yeah. He's tenacious. The Mandalorian
gets out of things
because he's got
friends and luck.
Yeah.
Also, Dredd
probably has a
second gun.
He's almost
certainly got a
second gun.
He's just never
had to use it
because no one's
ever disarmed him.
Well, isn't it
if you disarm a
judge, you
automatically have
to retire?
Even if he's
floating in the air,
he's not letting
go of that gun,
is he?
No, that's
true.
Right.
Yeah.
It's Dredd. Yeah, it's Dredd of that gut, is he? No, that's true. Right. Yeah. It's dread.
Yeah, it's dread.
It is.
Baby Yoda or no Baby Yoda.
Yeah.
Big finish.
Love that movie.
Do you want to finish on that one?
Yeah, let's finish on that one.
All right, great.
Okay.
Well, look, thank you very much to the people who contributed.
We obviously didn't get to all of them because we got hundreds, thousands potentially.
But we put them into a database.
And by a database, I mean they're in Gmail somewhere.
That's right. And I Googled, I mean they're in Gmail somewhere. That's right.
And I Googled and I searched for Showdown every time.
And you did it.
Yeah.
Yeah, so thank you again to those people who sent those in.
We'll come back to this, no doubt.
We do it every six months, every year, I don't know.
Some of our more popular episodes.
We've lost track of time.
We don't know.
Maybe we did it last week.
I honestly don't know anymore.
That's true.
And every time we do one of these, I have to Google the last episode
to figure out what number we're up to.
So I have no idea.
Maybe nine?
Who knows at this point?
Every time I'm on our friend Dave Warnock,
his podcast, Book Chief.
Great, Book Chief podcast.
He will ask at the start of the episode what you've been reading lately.
And before I go in,
I have to listen to his previous episode that I was on,
just in case I'm still reading the same book that I was reading six months ago.
Because it's such a good book?
Yep.
That's why I'm rereading it.
Yeah, good, good.
I'm not that slow.
I'm not a slow reader.
No, sir.
No, sir.
Do you know what it's time for?
Oh, is it time for what we're reading?
What we're going to read.
Oh, my God.
I'm doing the thing.
What are we reading today? My goodness, Mason, what are we reading today?
My goodness, Mason, what are you reading?
I just watched Code 8 on Netflix.
You know, I just looked at that before we...
So Stephen Amell and Robbie Amell?
That's right, the Amells.
The Amell brothers.
The super Amell brothers.
They've put down their plumbing tools
and they've turned their hand to movie making.
Terrific.
But strictly speaking, seriously, seriously, folks.
Seriously.
So it's Stephen Amell.
So that's Green Arrow from Arrow.
Yes.
And whoever his brother plays.
Tomorrow and whatever, all that.
Yes.
And they got together and they made a movie.
And I think they kick-started some or all of the budget.
Yes.
It looks really good.
I've heard good things.
What do you think, though?
It's pretty solid.
It's pretty...
It's pretty pretty?
It is pretty.
It doesn't look cheap.
Yeah.
And I think they've been very careful about, you know,
minimal number of sets.
Don't...
Work within your budget.
Work within your budget.
Don't work without your means.
It's not a...
It's a superhero movie, but it's not a Galactus-level threat.
It's not a Thanos kind of superhero movie.
It's like Bright.
Let me finish.
It's set in a world in which I think at the early 20th century
people started developing superpowers, minor superpowers,
and they've been sort of used as a labor force to build
the city that they're in or whatever.
But now that the city's built, everybody, you know, all their descendants are sort of
second class citizens now.
Right.
Okay, cool.
And they kind of work as like day laborers and stuff, like Robbie Amell's character has
electric powers.
So he basically like works in construction because he can work on electrical
systems while they're still live yeah okay like he can basically work without any safety rules
so it's essentially like instead of you being heightened by your superhero abilities they're
basically used as working class and yeah exactly yeah yeah and so and they're sort of but you know
there's there's their are they actually brothers in this or are they no they're unrelated yeah
they're not they're not related i don't mention how they look similar and have the same names
no absolutely not.
But they are referred to as Robbie and Stephen Amell
in the movie, so pretty wild.
Basically, you know, there's electrical guys
and fire guys and strong guys
and telepath guys and et cetera.
The X-Men guys.
Yeah, exactly.
You should have called it X-Men guys.
Code 8 brackets X-Men guys.
And Robbie Amell's character, his mother, she also has superpowers,
but she's got a brain tumour and they can't afford the surgery
and blah, blah, blah, so maybe it has to turn to crime.
And it's pretty basic as far as the premise goes.
And it's kind of like, oh, no, he's a good guy,
but maybe sometimes you've got to do some bad things
kind of thing.
Yes.
But I think it's really well put together.
Okay.
Out of 10, what do you give it?
Seven out of 10.
That's pretty good.
Pretty good.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, I actually watched Red Dwarf.
Oh, The Promised Land.
VPN, by the way, if you want to be doing that.
Oh, that'll do it.
Yeah, yeah, nice.
So I really liked it.
Now, so the premise of this, if I recall, is so in the show
where they're all trapped on the spaceship Red Dwarf,
Kat, the character Kat, is a descendant of Lister's Kat
who was pregnant 3 million years ago in the hold of Red Dwarf.
And they've evolved.
They've evolved into human-like cats over millions of years
and then they all left Red Dwarf.
Yes.
And now they're all back? Now they're all back. Okay. That's right. So it's kind of years, and then they all left Red Dwarf. Yes. And now they're all back?
Now they're all back.
Okay.
That's right.
So it's kind of this, and Lister, or as they call him, Cloyster,
and this all goes back to like the first episode ever in the 80s.
They think he's this deity who saved them, you know,
which some of that is true, but he's not a god.
He's a man, obviously.
He's a man.
And it feels a lot of the time like the classic Trapped on Starbug series.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Because there's a lot of time spent on Starbug away from Red Dwarf, Mason.
Yes.
And the callbacks are quite good.
There's some nods and some more obvious stuff,
but they do things like they cycle through a bunch of Rimmer's looks over the years.
And he even at one point defaults to being black and white,
which is what they originally wanted for the show.
Oh, that's good. I like it.
But they couldn't do the effect on television.
And I just really enjoyed it.
If you're a fan, you're going to get way more out of it.
If you're watching, you're going to be like, what is this?
What kind of funny is it?
What do you mean by that?
Is it cheesy funny?
It's a bit of cheesy funny.
Is there a laugh track?
Yes.
It's not as good as it's ever been right but it's as
good as it could be now does that make sense yeah and i honestly i really liked it yeah okay i'm
gonna get onto it yeah so you should i on in australia you can get every series on stan and
i've looked at on stan yeah and i know it's uh the the newest one okay but all the other ones are
and i'm like oh i'm like two seasons behind so I'm going to catch up on those maybe this week
and then watch The Promised Land
I think
yes absolutely
and it turns out
I read an article this week
it turns out
that the Rimmer in this
is Original Rimmer
how is that though?
you must have come back
so if you recall
yes
Original Rimmer
well not Original Rimmer
because he's dead
yes
but Original Rimmer
the hologram
he became Ace
he became the new Ace Rimmer
and he left for
dimensions unknown yes some some series ago and then in and the season after the season after
original rumor was resurrected using nanobots yes uh but he's gone now yeah original rumor came back
but how hologram it's never been explained yeah that makes sense because he has the memories of
everything else that yeah of rumors that he shouldn't have.
Yes.
But the show, Doug Naylor,
who's the remaining showrunner on the show,
one of the original creators said he's the original,
but we're basically not going to explain it.
We might, but he's like...
Yeah.
I like the idea that when he left,
he just kind of circled Starbug.
Yes.
Because he's a coward.
He didn't really go out on adventures.
He just hung out. He's just been following behind for years. Yes. Because he's a coward. He didn't really go out on adventures. He just hung out.
He's just been following behind for years.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's cool.
Anyway.
Do you know what it's time for now?
Is it time for letters?
It is time for letters.
Letters.
Letters.
Uh-oh.
Horrible fade in Mason.
No, that was a great fade.
We're going to hear it right now.
We're going to do letters.
Terrific.
If you do want to reach the show,
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I'll get a letters for us.
While you've got a letters for us,
I'm going to go to XXGiggleMcStink on Twitter.
That's a great name.
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Just watched a fugitive with Harrison Ford and Tommy Lee Jones.
It was a lot of fun.
Any thoughts?
I prefer the follow-up
US Marshals
with Wesley Snipes.
No, I don't.
It's a bad movie.
Fugitive's good.
I haven't seen it
since it came out.
Yeah.
Or I think I was probably
too young to watch it
at the movies
when it came out.
You haven't seen it
since it was on the TV
in the 90s.
On Channel 9, yes.
On Channel 9,
probably at 8.30
on a Wednesday.
Yes.
So many ads. Would have gone until 11 probably. He didn't kill his wife. It was a one-armed man. Yes, on Channel 9, probably at 8.30 on a Wednesday. Yes. So many ads.
Would have gone until 11, probably.
He didn't kill his wife.
It was a one-armed man.
Oh, that's great.
Didn't have a gold arm, though.
Do you remember it was also a series?
Like, they remade it as a series in, like, the early 2000s.
Sort of.
Yeah, and U.S. Marshals were supposed to be like,
you know, you love the fugitive.
What if the team from the fugitive took down another fugitive?
Yeah.
He was like a special forces guy.
He was like Wesley Snipes. It's not as interesting. Yeah. You know, because you want, like, the fugitive to be like aitive yeah i think he was like a special forces guy he's like wesley
snipes it's not as interesting yeah you know because you want like the fugitive to be like a
guy who's like harrison ford regular man right yeah and he's got a beard and you're like this
guy's got a beard and then he shaves his beard and they're like who is this guy anymore how did
he do that what's his secret he's disappeared into the into the crowd. Oh, my God. So, no, I like The Fugitive.
I should watch it again.
Harrison Ford has done a lot of exasperated kind of dads.
You know what I mean?
It's like, oh, God.
You know what I mean?
Is he an exasperated dad himself?
How many kids does he have?
He's got a few kids, yeah.
Does he?
Do we know anything about him?
I know he had kids when he did the first Star Wars.
Right.
He may have had some kids since, but I don't know.
All right. Yeah. Well, maybe he hasn't. These kids are all grown up. He may have had some kids since, but I don't know.
But maybe he hasn't. These kids are all grown up because he's 150 years old.
They're all adults, right.
It's interesting we've never seen...
It's interesting that...
Carrie Fisher's daughter is in
the Star Wars.
It's not odd.
It's so odd.
It's completely understandable
given Harrison Ford's experience in Star Wars,
that he might have said to his kids,
don't, just don't be actors.
I'll just give you money.
Yeah.
What do you think of that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, no, he's got five kids, it seems.
So there you go.
There you go.
So he had two children with his first wife,
two children with his second wife.
And then one child just showed up?
And together
they adopted a son
later in 2001.
So there you go.
This one's from Coleman.
Hello Coleman.
He's not here.
But I'm here.
You can say hello to me.
You never do.
You can say hello.
Come on now.
Oh wow.
Wow.
Anyway,
Coleman says,
hey James
and that other guy.
Hey.
That's me.
Yeah.
He's saying hello to me. I know. He didn't use my name but still. He says, I, James, and that other guy. Hey. That's me. Yeah. He's saying hello to me.
I know.
He didn't use my name, but still.
He says, I've been going through some tough times this past year with the transition into college.
Congratulations, and dealing with depression.
But I just wanted to thank you guys for always being there for me.
Not literally.
Obviously, that would be weird.
But for real, your podcast never fails to make me smile, and it feels like sometimes you guys were the only friend I had on some lonely nights.
So keep up the good work and keep shooting that red hot comic book news up my butthole, please.
Happy to do it.
Yeah.
Yeah, college can be tough, man.
Yeah.
It's just a whole different lifestyle.
And there's your pressures and...
Look, everything's tough right now.
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, I wasn't trying to belittle his problems, but you saying everything's tough.
So everyone's got problems, is that what you're saying?
Yeah.
This guy isn't unique in his problems?
No, he's very specific
he's unique in his
specific problems
oh okay gotcha
excellent
yeah
no I'm glad we could
help in a way
yeah
by shooting
Red Hot Comic Book News
yeah
a lot of people email
and they're like
oh thanks for helping out
and I'm like
well I don't know
if we helped out
I think you solved
your own problems
but
it's nice
but you were listening
to us during some of that
it's nice to be droning
in people's ears
while they solve
their own problems
boy is it. Yes.
Alright, alright.
I've got one more tweet. Okie dokie.
I was just going to say, I just remembered
did we mention it last week? Rob
Collings, the great Rob Collings.
He put up a hate mail. Oh yeah,
I meant to say that up top again. Well, you
didn't. You didn't, you fool.
Nah.
Anyway, he put up a 10-minute animation.
Yeah.
It's a hate mail segment that was all about the movie Rambo
when we reviewed the most recent Rambo movie.
Incredible.
Really good, yeah.
Animation, leaps and bounds, would you say?
He's so good at everything.
I don't understand it and I don't like it.
Me neither.
Right?
Let's block him.
Let's block him.
No, he's terrific.
This is from James Jander says,
on hashtag weekly planet pod,
not sure if this has been said,
but how do you guys feel about Miles Taller
returning as evil ultimate Reed Richards
from the ultimate universe in the MCU?
You know, and they get John Skrzynski for Reed 616.
I like that idea.
I like that idea too.
Just make use of that terrible dimension
i mean look they've they've the marvel universe the mcu currently has proven in spider-man far
from home that they're not above using not above but they're not they're not a low they're not
they're not averse to using actors from the previous continuity in in that kind of way yes
so i i mean yes but especially especially since that version of Reed Richards
was meant to be in that weird Lovecraftian, horrible universe.
Like that, I wouldn't, you know,
he doesn't even have to be like the ultimate Marvel universe.
Just he's from a universe that seems to be grimmer and weirder and more
Cronenberg-ious. Yes. Cronenbergian
than the regular
MCU. Yeah. And
it's been destroyed
and he's turned into this horrible
evil version of Red Richards. Bring him in.
It's been destroyed because he destroyed it by accident.
He probably did it by accident, yeah. By being too boring.
That's what it did. It created a boredom black hole.
Sucked the whole universe in.
Yeah, including this one.
What, our universe?
Yeah.
Are you bored with this episode?
No, but it's as a result of Fantastic Four.
Oh, it sucked the energy out of the room.
I get it.
Yeah, cool.
Exactly.
Wow.
And that's the show, isn't it?
It is.
Bring us to a close.
Thank you, everybody, so much for listening.
I hope we're here to just be in your ears while you solve your own problems this week
and get through all this drama on your own.
Because you know what?
Everybody out there is doing a great job.
Absolutely.
Good on you for plowing through, I think.
Sucks.
Sucks out there.
Yeah.
But thank you.
If you've got time in between the world sucking a little bit
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you want to tell a friend
about it
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people are doing that
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shoot them a text
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it's very good
I've been doing a Zoom
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get out there
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I do.
Oh, great.
This is from TallGuy0316.
Great name.
How tall, though?
Let us know.
Only that number.
Yeah, that's right.
In feet.
You can do this in app.
Open it up.
Five stars helps.
But it says, TallGuy says, been listening since my freshman year of college
after my roommate at the time introduced me to it.
We don't talk anymore,
but I still listen to you guys,
so I guess it worked out.
Is good.
Perfect for us.
Exactly.
And this is from Jimbly Jim Jam.
Five stars again.
Will make you forget that the world is ending.
Hopefully.
Well, we mentioned it a lot,
but still, maybe.
But like there's portions of the show
where we don't mention the world is ending.
That's true, yeah.
I mean, we bring it up sometimes.
Also, other people have mentioned
we try to keep it to a minimum
just to be clear
off air
our conversations
are almost exclusively
about how the world is ending
but we're trying not to bring that
we don't bring that in here
yeah
because we want these to be timeless
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there's also other people
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you are Mr. Sunday Movies
everywhere is that correct?
I've never not been
I won't ever change
maybe change it for a laugh
I might change it
for a laugh one day
change it for a laugh
I'll change it for Halloween
it'll be like
spooky skeleton Mr. Movies
Mr. Pumpkin Movies
it's this year
maybe I'll change it now
to Mr. Pumpkin Movies change it now to Mr. Pumpkin Movies I'm going this year. Maybe I'll change it now to Mr. Pumpkin Movies.
Change it now to Mr. Pumpkin Movies.
The door right now.
Okay, great.
Great stuff.
Just you, not the ass, just the username.
No, I know, because then someone will take it.
Yeah, and they'll blackmail you.
But also, if you'd like to support the show,
you can go to patreon.com.
It's done.
Incredible.
Have you added pumpkins?
Mr. Pumpkin Movies. I'll put it in my picture. I'll do that as well. show, you can go to patreon.com. It's done. Incredible. Have you added pumpkins? Mr. Pumpkin Movies.
I'll put it in my picture.
I'll do that as well.
Okay, great, great, great.
If you'd like to support the show, you can go to patreon.com, Mr. Sun.
Movies.
If you'd like to chuck in a buck, we'd very much appreciate it.
I know it's tough times out there for everyone.
Yeah, it really is.
But so obviously you don't have to.
Yeah, that's absolutely true.
Quick question.
Regular pumpkin or jack-o'-lantern pumpkin?
Jack-o'-lantern pumpkin.
You don't think I should just do a regular one? No, I reckon jack-o'-lantern pumpkin? Jack-o'-lantern pumpkin. You don't think I should just do a regular one?
No, I reckon jack-o'-lantern pumpkin.
All right.
Just checking.
And yeah, you can also go to the Amazon affiliate link in our episode description.
If you're buying your stuff on Amazon, as a lot of people are right now, click through
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We'd love it.
We'd love it.
It would be great just to your regular grocery shop or whatever you're getting.
We'd love it.
Monitors.
What do people need?
Your hair clipping equipment. Oh, you're going to do that this week. Monitors. What do people need? Your hair clipping equipment.
I'm going to do that this week. You're going to home cut your hair?
Yeah, I'm going to borrow my parents.
You're going to borrow your parents? Yeah, borrow my parents
to get my mum to cut my hair like she did when I was a kid.
And your dad to complain.
I like it. Your mum can
cut your hair and your dad can complain that the dinner
isn't being made.
Okay, great. Perfect.
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Go on there and have some nice, good old chats with some people.
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It's running all the time every day.
It will never stop.
Right.
Unless it changes to Planet Broadcasting Pumpkin Mates.
Excuse me a moment moment won't you
that would be nuts
Mason
yeah
that's the whole lot
isn't it
that's the whole lot
next week a different
thing won't it be
it'll be a different
thing
we'll think of
something
we'll always think of
something and have a
grand time about it
you know we will
alright thanks you
guys for listening
grab that gym you guys
we'll see you next week
goodbye
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