The Weekly Planet - 333 Best & Worst Apocalypse Movies

Episode Date: May 4, 2020

Help support the show at https://patreon.com/mrsundaymovies for early videos, choosing topics and more!We're back for another this thing we do! Starting with news of Harrison Ford's aviation trouble, ...GI Joe Snake Eyes sequel, updates of Space Jam and another Disney live action remake, delays for John Wick 4, more Transformers prequels and the death of a Scrubs legend. AND. Apocalypse movies. Those things.Elseworlds Exchange Podcast! Alan Moore/Frank Miller Adaptations ft. Mr. Sunday Movies: https://bit.ly/2VZXMVJSuggestible Podcast: https://aca.st/cf053a0:00 The Start2:22 Harrison Ford is at it again7:23 GI Joe movie 'Snake Eyes' casting news10:05 Space Jam: A New Legacy logo11:46 Hercules live action remake update15:30 John Wick 4 delayed16:45 RIP Sam Lloyd18:29 Next Transformers film revealed23:40 Best/Worst Apocalypse Movies1:16:50 What We Reading/What We Gonna Read1:23:25 Letters It’s Time For LettersJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP Itunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanet TWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGH Amazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:28 The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Hello. What's going on? Nothing ever. You? Also nothing ever. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, no, I'm having a kid this week.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Oh, yeah, that's pretty big news. So it's pretty, yeah, that's pretty significant. There might not be a show next week. Okay. We plan to be home by the time everything kind of sorts itself out. Yeah, back at our bachelor pad that we live in. That's right. Oh, it's all going to be over for the other, your side biz.
Starting point is 00:01:29 That's right. Your side hustle of having a wife and family. Exactly. Okay, that's good. Thank God. Then I'm back out of the town. Because you feel what's going to happen is you're going to snap after this one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Your realisation is going to hit you like a sledgehammer. Happens. That you've got two kids now. Yeah. And that's at least one too many. And we're going to, oh, bad, bad, the boys are going to be back on the town. Oh, yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:01:54 So, yeah, there might not be a show next week is what I'm saying. Yeah, right. It could just be I'm tired and I don't want to do one. It could be we're both standing out of the sunroof of a limousine just in tuxedos, firing guns and holding champagne, you know. That's right. Not to celebrate the birth of a childousine just in tuxedos, firing guns and holding champagne, you know? That's right. Not to celebrate the birth of a child, mind you. Absolutely not, no. Why would anyone do that?
Starting point is 00:02:11 That's it. All right, so in other news. Yes. Equally exciting news, I would say. I was on the last thing I'll ever do. I was on Comic Pop earlier this week. Sal's got an excellent YouTube channel where we talked about all the film adaptations of both Alan Moore
Starting point is 00:02:24 and Frank Miller. My goodness. So I squeezed it in before I can never do anything ever again. Sure, absolutely. So it's about two hours and it was really fun. And people, obviously a lot of people would already know that channel, but if you don't, go and check it out because it's amazing. And it was a good time.
Starting point is 00:02:37 And he's a great dude. Great. Yeah. Why don't you marry him if you love him so much, Mason? Well, you know where that leads. You're a free and single man. So why would you? You know what I mean? You're a free and single man, so why would you? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:02:45 You're a bachelor about town. Exactly. We all know where it leads, you know, standing out of the roof of a limousine, firing guns, drinking champagne. So it sounds really great eventually. So I'll link that below if people do want to check it out. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Any other updates or should we just news? Let's just news, I think. I love news. So Harrison Ford, a few people sent this in. I'm not sure if this person was the first and they probably won't be the last, but coldnose99 sent in the article, one of the articles. And basically what happened- He's got a nose for a scoop. You know he does. Harrison Ford is- Or he's a healthy dog.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Either way. Coldnose, wetnose. Coldnose, good for a dog. Okay. Drynose. No, sorry. Wetnose, good for a dog. Drynose, bad. Okay, right. Yeah. But also don't touch your dog's nose because they're very sensitive. Okay. Dry nose. No, sorry. Wet nose, good for a dog. Dry nose, bad. Okay, right. Yeah. But also don't touch your dog's nose because they're very sensitive.
Starting point is 00:03:28 You know what I mean? I understand. Just looked around to see if my dog was in reaching distance. That's right. Yep. Correct. Hey, dog, you're a test subject now. Come here.
Starting point is 00:03:37 So Harrison Ford. You're going to get booped for science purposes. Harrison Ford, again, he's been in an aviation incident. This one may be luckily not as severe as some of the other ones, but he's admitting fault in a recent incident at a California airport where he reportedly piloted a plane on April 24th, crossed over a runway where a different aircraft was attempting to come in for a landing.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Oh, my goodness. You know what that ends in? A big plane crash potentially. You know what that ends in? Big plane crash potentially. You know what I mean? But if any, you know, I mean, it may end up with him like running across one of the wings trying to push somebody through a propeller. Sure, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:04:14 It's like it didn't come to that. They think, you know, they think they've got the upper hand. Then they step backwards and it comes right off. That's it. The good thing is, I guess, from Harrison Ford's perspective, he's admitted fault through a representative to CNN. He said, Mr. Ford crossed the airport's only runway. Runway.
Starting point is 00:04:32 He said runway. It's runway, isn't it? Yes. It's not a monkey bar situation. You wouldn't build monkey bars across a plane landing strip, would you? No. It is aircraft after he misheard a radio instruction from the ATC. He immediately acknowledged the mistake and apologised.
Starting point is 00:04:47 The purpose of the flight was to maintain currency and proficiency in the aircraft. No one was injured and there was never any danger of a collision. So his goal here essentially was to perform some airplane techniques to avoid losing his licence. In doing
Starting point is 00:05:03 so, he passed directly in front of a plane that was coming into land. Correct. I mean, it could have been, we don't know how close it was. Maybe it was 10 minutes. Maybe it was 30 seconds. Yeah, right. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Maybe it was four seconds. Maybe it was super close. Yeah, I think we'd know about it. It was super close. Yeah. It sounds to me like it was a case of a significant amount of time. For those aviation heads out there, airheads, is this a common thing? Oh, good question.
Starting point is 00:05:32 If you know anything about it, if you work in it, if you're in one of those towers. If you're an air traffic controller who needs to keep like a zen-like level of focus at all times and you're listening to this podcast, stop listening to the podcast or quit your job. Yeah. Quit your job and devote yourself to this podcast full time. Or two headphones, podcast in one ear, aviation stuff in the other.
Starting point is 00:05:50 That's probably a good compromise I feel. Yeah, that's right. And support us on Patreon obviously. Yeah. But yeah. I'm coming in on the South Atlantic strip. I've got two engines out. I need some help.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Do you? I want to know, is this common if you're a pilot yeah if you're an amateur pilot have you ever done this like is this a thing that happens also what plane is harrison ford flying i think he's doing some light aircraft shit okay right so it's like one of those like a cessna it's like one of those ones if you get onto it if you're like we're gonna transfer you to the you know the nearest airport you get put in like a or what you're going to a regional location they put you in one of those tiny rickety ones. They're no good.
Starting point is 00:06:26 I imagine it's one of those. I've been on a few of those and I've never had a good time. But it smells like the 70s. They do smell like the 70s and the pilot's smoking and they're like, what do you think of flying? And I'm like, I fucking hate it actually. It's really bad. Especially in this tin can. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:38 The thing about this kind of plane is you'll notice that most passengers vomit. I don't know why that is. Anyway, time for a loop-de-loop. When I lived up north, we had to get a small aircraft in and out of the community because there was no other way in half a year because it was rained, so you couldn't drive in. And the drive was like 12 hours.
Starting point is 00:06:57 But one time, I wasn't on this flight, but the door opened on one of these planes. They ended up being shut down for massive breaches in safety. How high are you up at that point? You die. If you fail, you definitely die. No, I mean like because apparently, you know how they say, you know how when you're on a major, like a 747 or whatever,
Starting point is 00:07:17 and they're like, do you want to sit in the emergency exit row? And people are always worried that somebody will pull that lever and they're thinking. Apparently the pressure is so high, like on a commercial flight, that even if you pull the lever and they're thinking. Yeah, right. Apparently the pressure is so high, like on a commercial flight, that even if you pull the lever, nothing will happen. Yeah, right. Maybe just above the clouds, maybe. Okay, well.
Starting point is 00:07:31 It's not much. Yeah, right. Okay, here's a clear test. And you get rocked a lot. Yeah, here's a clear test. Is the pilot wearing like a scarf and some goggles and like a leather helmet? Often, yes.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Okay, right. Yeah, exactly. But anyway, more news. Yes, please. Let everybody safe. leather helmet. Often, yes. Okay, right, right. Exactly. But anyway, more news. Yes, please. Let everybody safe. Anyway, I say guilty. I agree. I'm the admitted fault, so.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Yeah, well, yeah, so that's right. How's this for a- I sentence you to remaining a rich celebrity. Until your dying days in 20 years probably because you'll live forever. The Hollywood Reporter is reportering that Henry Golding and Samara Weaving will likely reprise their roles as Snake Eyes
Starting point is 00:08:10 and Scarlet in a follow-up G.I. Joe movie that's not a Snake Eyes movie. What do you think of that? Did you say Henry Golding was Snake Eyes? He's Snake Eyes. I had no idea. I've seen both of those movies. Snake Eyes. Oh, no, Ray Park has been Snake Eyes in previous Snake Eyeses.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Yeah, right. But this is a Snake Eyes in previous Snake Eyeses. Yeah, right. But this is a Snake Eyes prequel and then they're doing G.I. Joe's again. So you need a very handsome man. That's right. He seems more like a storm shadow to me, wouldn't you agree? I would agree. But so is he going to be under the mask and mute for like the rest
Starting point is 00:08:36 of these movies then? Because that's what Snake Eyes is about. Yeah, I don't know. It's a good question. When does he get his Snake Eyes? When in the series? It's in a helicopter accident, but I couldn't tell you. Do you see his face much?
Starting point is 00:08:46 He's scarred, right? Like previous to, you don't in the comic books. I don't think you ever see it in the cartoon or anything. Sure. But in the comic books, he's always masked, but there was this huge lead up, if I recall, in the 90s, and then he takes his mask off and he's got like one. Snake eye.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Big snake eye, exactly, yeah, yeah. Also, he's blonde in the comics. Is he? I don't know if that. So he's got like one. Snake eye. Big snake eye. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Also he's blonde in the comics. Is he? I don't know if that. So he's got a big zigzag through his head. Yeah, and he's kind of melty. Okay. You know.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Yeah. It's not quite Elephant Man, but it's not, you know, it's not. On a scale of female protagonists from Ready Player One to the Elephant Man, it's about a five. Okay, sure. Yeah. Okay, so somewhere in the middle. Would he still be able to get chicks?
Starting point is 00:09:24 I mean, if he shows off those incredible katana skills, yeah, sure. Yeah. Okay, so somewhere in the middle. Would he still be able to get chicks? I mean, if he shows off those incredible katana skills. Yeah, obviously. Yeah. But just with the face alone, no katanas. He has to put his katanas away. Maybe not. It's a blind date. Maybe not.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Oh, he could do some flips probably. He's not allowed to. Oh, wow. They're in a very bustling restaurant. And if he does, he kicks the tray out of the waiter's hand. Yeah. I reckon he could probably do still, he could do some sort of like cutlery-based tricks. Okay, but if you went to-
Starting point is 00:09:48 Oh, if you take away all his skills, sure. No, I'm saying, but if you went to a restaurant- All right, James, if I took away your katana skills and your flips and your, how would you even, how would you have met your wife? How would I even accidentally cut my hand off? Exactly. All I'm saying is if you went on a blind date-
Starting point is 00:10:02 Yes. And you turned up and the person had a 5 out of 10 elephant man scar down their face and had a katana and didn't say anything to you because they were mute and then did a backflip and kicked a tray out of the waiter's hand, how would you receive that? I probably, I don't know, I definitely ask about the katana. Sure, but they can't tell you. Oh, they can't tell me because it's mute.
Starting point is 00:10:24 How does he communicate? I think it's mute. They could probably, you know. How does he communicate? I think it's mostly gestures. Right. Rude gestures. That's rude. Yeah, right. Anyway, are you excited for a Snake Eyes follow-up?
Starting point is 00:10:33 Sounds good. But again, Henry Golding looks more like Storm Shadow is all I'm saying. Yeah. I think they might be combining it with the Transformers universe at some point. Oh, yeah. There's been no evidence. There's been a little bit of evidence, but there's been no official talk of that. But we might come back to that a bit later because there was a new logo for Space Jam.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Space Jam, a new legacy. I saw that. Yeah, I did see it, yeah. So LeBron is back to do a new Space Jam. Yes. Hot off the back of Michael Jordan with his new documentary. Have you watched it? No.
Starting point is 00:11:00 It's really great. Is it on Netflix? It's on Netflix here. Okay, all right. Yeah. It's on HBO. You got some flack this week, I think, on Twitter. I think you said that Michael Jordan won five championships in a row
Starting point is 00:11:10 or something like that. I didn't notice that. Did I actually get flack? I don't know. Yeah, maybe. Didn't he? No idea. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Also, I don't know how basketball works. I don't know if he can be a champion. I don't know if it's possible. They'd won a few seasons in a row when the thing starts. The last one, it's about their latest, their last know. I don't know if it's possible. They'd won a few seasons in a row when the thing starts. And the last one, it's about their latest, their last season. I don't know. I didn't even notice that. Anyway, fuck you, people who said that.
Starting point is 00:11:33 If you said it, which you may not have because I didn't remember seeing it. Yeah. The important thing is that Space Jam, a new legacy, is happening. Okay. Just in time for whenever it comes out in four years because everything's shut down. I mean, you know, the Looney Tunes are hotter than ever, aren't they? Yeah, that's right. Well, they're coming back.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Did you see? They're bringing back to HBO Max. There's a new series. They're winding up again. Cool. All the tunes are back. Okay. Which is good, I think.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Have you seen the trailer for it? No. It actually looks pretty good. All right then. Are they rude? I don't think they're like animaniac rude. I think they're more like old school rude. One of them's like, what do you think of this big hammer?
Starting point is 00:12:07 And the other one's like. I sure wouldn't want to get hit in the face with that hammer. But then. Then they are hitting it. Then they have a compromise and they don't. That's right. Yeah. Is it all animated or is it we've fallen into the real world?
Starting point is 00:12:16 No, it's all animated. Okay, right. It's like it even looks more, it looks even a little bit pre like the classic. Oh, okay. I really like the designs that they've done. Okay, cool. According again to the Hollywood Reporter Mason, Shang-Chi and the Legends of the Ten Rings writer Dave Callahan says, not says, but will be involved with live action Hercules movie. Oh.
Starting point is 00:12:37 The Disney one. Yes. Because we already had some Hercules movies. We had the one with the rock. We had the rock Hercules, yeah. And we had the other one with one of the guys from Twilight. Okay, Twilight, The Rock. We had Hercules, The Legendary Journeys.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Absolutely, the TV classic. We had the animated movie from 1998-ish. I think that also had a follow-up and also an animated series. Yes. Danny DeVito was in that one. We've had the historical hero, Hercules. Sure. Fictional.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Hercules in New York. Depending on what you believe, Hercules in New York, exactly. Where, Hercules. Sure. Fictional. Hercules in New York. Depending on what you believe, Hercules in New York, exactly. Where's Hercules? A New York bagel, just enjoying a New York bagel. Now, I know you haven't. Why am I asking? Have you seen the animated Hercules movies? I have absolutely not seen them.
Starting point is 00:13:16 One of those ones which is like, this is nearly pretty good. James Woods' Hades, is that? Yeah, he's actually terrific. Okay. He's really good. And Danny DeVito's a little goat man. He's like, I don't. Oh, you know, I saw something on Twitter and I think he's actually terrific. He's really good. And Danny DeVito is a little goat man. He's like, I don't know. Oh, you know, I saw something on Twitter and I think Danny DeVito said
Starting point is 00:13:30 he'd be up for playing that little goat man in the live action version if that is to test us. They should 100% get him. They can't get James Woods because I think he's gone mad. I don't know what he's up to at the moment. Seems he's gone mad, yeah. But maybe he always was. So maybe they should get him.
Starting point is 00:13:42 If he's consistent, then get him back. Well, that's true. I think he probably has always been mad, but there was just no social media. Yeah, that's right. He just had to get it. And, you know, anytime – and nobody talked to him except when it was, you know, interviews for movies, and he just had to sort of toe the company line. He's like, boy, I wish I could let everybody know that I've gone mad
Starting point is 00:13:58 or I've been consistently mad for decades. But there's just no way for me to do it. If only there was some sort of micro-blogging platform. Yeah. But there isn't. No. It's great seeing celebrities in their day-to-day, isn't it? Kind of.
Starting point is 00:14:11 That's a good answer. Very diplomatic. Yeah. Because you're rubbing shoulders with them, aren't you? So you don't want to piss anybody off. Exactly right. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Typical of you. It's nice to get some, you know, home decorating ideas and stuff. Yeah, it certainly is. Like I should put in like an indoors infinity pool. I'll do that. Absolutely. Yeah. I will put in side-by-side $10,000 fridges.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Yes. But do you think infinity pool, are they good? Like genuinely? For exercise. Just in general, do you think that's something that you'd want and use if you had the space? Yes. Would you actually get one?
Starting point is 00:14:44 Yes. But you're not a big swimmer, are you? But I could be. I enjoy a swim from time to time. When's the last swim you swam? I swam. I went up north. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:52 I recently had a little swim. You did a little swim. Okay, cool. All right. So you definitely do a swim because I'm not a huge swimmer, so I don't know whether I'd use it. But here's the thing. I would much prefer to swim in the comfort of my own home as opposed
Starting point is 00:15:01 to at a public pool where everybody points and laughs. But in the comfort. Because of my general, you know, this, this whole deal. Your face. I wasn't pointing at my face, but yes. That's all I say. So that's what I would laugh at. Oh, yeah, you laugh at my face.
Starting point is 00:15:12 No, that's fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, I've done this on purpose, so I guess that's only fair. Claire laughs at me when I swim because I look like I'm really working, but I'm not going anywhere. I'm a horrible swimmer. Yeah, I'm just not built for it or good at it.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Yeah. Both of those things probably. But if we had matching infinity pools. We could duel. We could be infinity pool bros. Would they face each other and we'd high five? No, we'd be in separate houses, but we'd be on Zoom. We'd be on Zoom, yes.
Starting point is 00:15:40 I don't think I'd use it. Yeah. I think you would if. I'd use a spa. All right. Yeah. Okay then. Can you- I'd use a spa. All right. Yeah. Okay, then. Can you get a mixture?
Starting point is 00:15:47 One that does both? An infinity pool slash spa, probably. Still, that'd seem expensive, though. Well, once we become rich celebrities, yes. Put it up on Patreon, see if people want to do it. Build us- What a baby this could be. Folks, do you want to build us a freestanding double infinity pool slash spa so we can swim
Starting point is 00:16:02 at each other and then high five in the middle? Plus some kind of permanent dual screen setup. Yes. I don't want to use my phone. Yeah. Yeah. So the other thing is I said I wasn't going to talk about things being pushed back, but John Wick has been pushed back to 2022
Starting point is 00:16:15 because the Matrix has been pushed back. Oh, of course, yeah. So there's a real Keanu in this situation until things get a Keanu go. A real Keanu-nituation. Yes, it is. He's got nits. That's the nituation. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:16:28 He should shave his head or at least get that treatment and then comb it out with the cut. It's in his beard. It's in his beard. He should shave your beard. That's an easy fix. I saw a video recently where he talks about his favourite motorcycles. It's really good.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Yeah? It's just on YouTube. Just look up Keanu Reeves' motorcycles. One of those ones that they visit his garage or whatever. But also the voice is dubbed over in the interviews. You ever seen like Gym and Fridge? No. And the voice feels like it's clearly edited in later and it feels very odd.
Starting point is 00:16:50 This one isn't. It's just because he has a motorcycle company. Yeah. So it was just him being really enthusiastic about motorcycles. It's called Kia Go? Yeah, it is. Good. It started as a go-kart company and he's moved up.
Starting point is 00:17:00 He's real passionate. They're like, Keanu, what if we took off two wheels? Like genius. He said no. Yeah. Anyway, it's just what if we took off two wheels? Like, genius. He said no. Yeah. Anyway, it's just fun to see him enthusiastic about things in a way that he's not being sort of funneled into an interview about, you know, people aren't asking him what's what about the Matrix?
Starting point is 00:17:16 He's like, yep. It's good. I was in it. That's right. You guys remember. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:17:22 All right. I'll check that out. Deadline are reporting. This is the last bit of news, but it's big news, Mason. Don't we have a little bit of news? Scrubs related Yeah. Okay, cool. All right, I'll check that out. Deadline are reporting. This is the last bit of news, but it's big news, Mason. Don't we have a little bit of news, Scrubs-related news? Oh, yeah. Ted from Scrubs.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Not his real name. Sam Lloyd is his name. Sam Lloyd, yeah. 56 brain tumor. Yeah. Too young, especially Hollywood. That's crazy young. But, yeah, he's the inept lawyer slash very good acapella singer throughout a lot of Scrubs.
Starting point is 00:17:46 He's a very sort of harangued, very stressed out lawyer who's constantly sweating from every pore in his body because of all the pressure he's under at work. But he's also in an acapella group called the Worthless Peons. Yes. If people haven't seen Scrubs, you know, recently because Zach Braff and Donald Faison started that podcast about Scrubs, seen Scrubs. You know, recently because Zach Braff and Donald Faison started that podcast
Starting point is 00:18:07 about Scrubs. I'm like, you know. Scrub-a-dub-dub. Yeah, scrub-a-dub-dub. Yeah. We're here in a tub. Infinity tub. I thought about listening to that. I'm like, you know, nothing's grabbing me to go back and re-watch Scrubs again. Me neither, yeah. And sad circumstances, but
Starting point is 00:18:23 Sam, as Teddy Buckland, is very good in that show. Yeah, exactly. Everybody is good in that show, Me neither, yeah. And sad circumstances, but Sam, as Teddy Buckland, is very good in that show. Yeah, exactly. Everybody is good in that show, but yeah, especially. I agree. Real sad news. It is real sad. I don't care for it.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Yeah, he's got a kid. He's married. It sucks. 56, too young. He plays at their wedding. Do you remember? Yeah, he does. He's in the Hawaiian thing.
Starting point is 00:18:40 His wife? Yeah. Turk's wife? Turk's wife. Yeah. Carla. There we go. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:18:44 She'll watch Scrubs again. Yeah. I think a? Turk's wife. Yeah. Carla. There we go, thank you. She watched Scrubs again. Yeah. I think a lot of people have said it's problematic because there's a lot of like, you're gay and being gay is hilarious. Yeah, there probably is. I think if you watch it within the context of the era, you'd probably be able to get past that. Or it's awful.
Starting point is 00:18:57 I say cancel it all. It's on one of my streaming services I have. I don't know which one. All right. It's probably on Stan. Yeah, it's probably on Stan. It's probably on Stan. Anyway, sad to see him go. It is.
Starting point is 00:19:07 It really is, yeah. But you have some uplifting final news. It's Transformers related. It kind of is good, actually. It's from Deadline. Josh Cooley, who's the director of Toy Story 4, he's apparently going to be directing a big-scale Transformers theatrical prequel that focuses on an origin story.
Starting point is 00:19:26 It takes place on Cybertron and revolves around the relationship between Optimus Prime and Megatron. Oh, this might be the Alpha Trion movie. What do you know of the Alpha Trion? That's Optimus Prime before he was Optimus Prime. Oh, yeah, because wasn't he like, I'm just a regular working man? I'm just a regular guy, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Off I go to robot work. Where's my robot briefcase? Is Megatron with him? And he's like, Megatron's got big plans. Megatron, yeah, yeah. Off I go to robot work. Where's my robot briefcase? Is Megatron with him? And he's like, Megatron's got big plans. Megatron's the briefcase. All right. That's right, because he always turns into a much worse thing. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:19:51 Yeah, okay. So Megatron's, and the essential beef of those two characters is that Alpha Trion's always getting to work and just slamming his briefcase on his desk. Yes, yes. And Megatron's like, you know I'm a sentient being, right? You know? And Optimus Prime's like, no, I don't know that. That's right.
Starting point is 00:20:07 A lot of resentment boils up and then War for Cybertron. Yeah. Did they do the they did that in the cartoons didn't they? They did a flashback-y thing? I think they did, yeah. And also, they didn't really cover it, but... Or Orion Pax, maybe that's his name. Might be it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:22 I can look it up, do you want me to googles it? Please do. Optimus Prime original name. It might be it, yeah. I can look it up. Do you want me to Googs it? Please do. Optimus Prime Original name. I'm excited for the tweets that are like, oh, my God, his name's Ryan Pax. Then a tweet five minutes later, oh, sorry. Sorry. You corrected yourself. So what's Alpha Trion? He's a different guy.
Starting point is 00:20:41 I think maybe he was the previous leader of the Transformers. Well, my understanding is, yeah. Megatron's always been Megatron, to the best of my knowledge. Unless he started as Minitron, then he became Tron, the movie Tron. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he upgraded to Megatron. When did he become Tron Legacy? Probably never.
Starting point is 00:20:55 And then Galvatron? Then he becomes Galvatron, yeah. I don't like Galvatron. Why don't you like Galvatron? It's a bad design. No, disagree. The problem with that movie is a lot of things. People love that movie.
Starting point is 00:21:05 It's not great. It's fine. I'm glad to hear you out, that movie is a lot of things. People love that movie. It's not great. I'm willing to hear you out, but rage is bubbling up within me. A lot of the designs of the new Autobots and Decepticons they introduce aren't very interesting. They're like, the new leader is Rodimus Prime. He's a slightly bigger hot rod, this character you just met. Fuck this guy. I don't want to see him.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Wow. Bring back Optimus Prime, which they did eventually. Have you seen Rodimus Prime's new look in the comic books no i haven't is he sick yeah it's sick i have some internet problems real quick google uh rodimus lost light all right hang on oh yeah that comic that's apparently really good yeah it is good i started to read i think it was either that one or another one yeah but i clearly hadn't read the thing before there's so much i don't understand this at all there's two branching Transformers series, and they both take place simultaneously but in separate parts of the universe, I think.
Starting point is 00:21:48 So it's kind of overly complicated. Okay, but it's apparently great. People love it. Yeah, yeah. People love it and kiss it. I'm enjoying it. Come on, Alpha Trion, get it together. The internet's really slowing down here.
Starting point is 00:21:57 I got new, faster internet, and it's good when it works. Oh, hello. Yeah. What did you say again? What was the second thing I was supposed to look at? Rodimus, Lost Light. Rodimus Prime or just Rodimus? Just Rodimus. Hello. Yeah. What did you say again? What was the second thing I was supposed to look at? Rodimus, Lost Light. Rodimus Prime or just Rodimus? Just Rodimus.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Okay. I think he's dropped the prime. Because he's not the leader anymore. He's a free agent now. Cool. He's got that purple and that's a sick look. Yeah, sexy new look, right? Well, sexy is a very accurate word, my son.
Starting point is 00:22:20 That's exactly right. I only use it in very specific and correct circumstances. That is a much better look than his old look. That's exactly right. I only use it in very specific and correct circumstances. That is a much better look than his old look. That's right. My understanding is that he took over, right? Yes. And he was the leader for quite a while, or a little bit at least. And then Optimus Prime came back, but he was evil
Starting point is 00:22:34 because he was missing his soul or something. He came back, yeah. In the cartoons, he came back, I think, as some sort of soulless shell of a being. And then he died again. Because he sacrificed himself maybe. Yeah. But then he came back again and again.
Starting point is 00:22:48 But there's also the Marvel comic book continuity was separate from the cartoon continuity. So in the comics he came back as a power master, which is the one where they've got a little man that turns into an engine, goes into his chest, powers him up. Yeah. Yeah, that's cool, I think. Oh, it's cool, all right.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Oh, it's cool. It's cool, all right. It's cool, all up. Yeah. Yeah, that's cool, I think. Oh, it's cool, all right. Oh, it's cool. It's cool, all right. It's cool, all right. Yeah. Very cool. So anyway, this is going to be an Orion Pax movie. I just want to say a quick shout out to Keaton McLeod, who sent me a picture of the swordfish John Travolta soul patch,
Starting point is 00:23:21 which you could buy. Oh, incredible. Somebody found it at their parents' house. It comes with a little patch of hair and a little vial of glue, and you stick that on there and you walk around like that's fine. So I have many questions. First of all, you're saying you can buy it? You could.
Starting point is 00:23:36 You could buy it back in the day. Also, that's the larger question there is that he found it at his parents' house. Yes. Well, he didn't. He tweeted somebody else who found it. Nevertheless, the point is that it's it at his parents' house. Yes. Well, he didn't. He tweeted somebody else who'd found it. Nevertheless, the point is that it's at somebody's parents' house, which means there's some mum and dad soul, what's it called? Soul patch.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Swordfish. Swordfish, yes. There's some mum and dad soul patch swordfish action cosplay happening at somebody's mum and dad's house, yes. Who's Hugh Jackman, do you think? Who else is in that? Who's Vinnie Jones? Who's Halle Berry?
Starting point is 00:24:04 Is she in that movie? Yeah. Yeah, she got paid a lot of money to show her boobs or something. That's right, yeah. I remember. That's a good movie. Is it? Awful.
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Starting point is 00:25:05 Yeah. Then do you want to talk through the topic for the week? I would love to do. If you tell me what the topic is, gosh darn it. I shouldn't have sprung this on you just now, but basically I threw this out on Patreon, but of course I was going to say people can send them other ways, but I didn't put it out anywhere else. So you can't.
Starting point is 00:25:20 You can still send them. You just can't read them out. And if you send them now, it'll be too late. If you're listening to this, you've missed it by a long way. Unless someone sends an idea that is so good. It breaks space and time. We'll have to do it next week, won't we? If we're back next week.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Yep. Yeah. So I'm just loading on my Patreon comments because I don't load all at once and you've got to like go. Anyway, so what we decided to talk about, it's apocalypse movies. Because it's a very apt time to talk about it because it's the two-year anniversary of X-Men Apocalypse. Is it?
Starting point is 00:25:48 I don't even know if that's true. Is it? Maybe. When did that movie come out? A million years ago. It seems like a million years ago, doesn't it? Yeah. But I thought we'd have a caveat.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Because people are sick of hearing about the virus, aren't they? You're sick of hearing about it? Absolutely. So any one of these which has a virus in it. Gosh, it's a weird time, isn't it? I don't like it. We've got to get rid of it, okay? Because we don't want to bring the mood down.
Starting point is 00:26:11 We want to bring the mood up. We want to talk about the end of the world but not in the way that's happening at the moment. Exactly. So it's not really the end of the world. Global warming will probably get us in the end. Don't you think? Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Think on the bright side. We're going to get through this and then we're all going to melt. That's going to happen. Or drown. That's right. Yeah. So big thank you to everybody who supports us on Patreon.com
Starting point is 00:26:31 slash MrSundayMovies. I put it out there and said, Apocalypse Movies. Hey, so Monday's Weekly Planet is going to be covering the best worst Apocalypse Movies. What are some you'd like us to cover for 30 seconds before moving on to another? That's one of our famous James and Mason vaguely recall a thing they maybe have seen or haven't seen.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Sometimes we haven't even seen it. Yeah, that's right. Sometimes we'll read the Wikipedia entry for it and go, huh, that seems interesting. That's right. But yeah, the one caveat, no pandemic-related movies. That's right. So no contagion.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Nope. No that one. Also, it didn't end. The world didn't end in that one. Oh, yeah. No outbreaks. Also, the world didn't end in that one. Then maybe we. No outbreaks. Also, the world didn't end in that one. Then maybe we can talk about it.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Yeah, right. Look at those cute little monkeys. I see somebody put some disaster movies in here. Like Christopher Brandon has said San Andreas. I would argue that's like a localized thing that happens. Yeah, that's Bush Lake disaster. Exactly. Just the destruction of an entire city or continent.
Starting point is 00:27:22 I can't remember what happened. But then after that, he's put 2012. Pretty apt, don't you think Yes So that one I haven't seen it But it's about the weather goes We've had enough of your shit All the weather's gonna happen at once
Starting point is 00:27:34 This is weather revenge Yeah it's weather revenge Do you like it? I don't like those movies I know that's what I've said But what do you think Is that why you didn't watch it? Yeah
Starting point is 00:27:43 Also it's not They didn't even make it in 2012. They made it in like 2009, 2010. Because that is because the Mayan calendar predicted that. It wasn't so much weather was out for revenge. It was the Mayan calendar predicted that the world was going to end in 2012. Sorry, the Day After Tomorrow is the one where the weather's coming after them. There we go.
Starting point is 00:28:02 We're just going to put these together. Yeah. They're the same. Cameron Taylor's put together. Yeah. They're the same. They're the same. Cameron Taylor's put down to tomorrow. So yeah. They're the same movie. Yeah, they really are.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Yeah. So what do you think about those movies? I hate them. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. They look good. I feel like you would like these more than, say, a Geostorm, only because- I love Geostorm.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I know, but the Geostorm has a protagonist you can punch. Yeah. Which is the vice president. And a flavor you can punch. Yeah. Which is the vice president. And a flavour you can taste. That's exactly right. Yum, yum. Because it's got a protagonist you can punch. And you can be like, I'm the president, you son of a bitch.
Starting point is 00:28:33 That's right. Which might be an exact line in that movie. Yeah, fair enough. But these particular disaster movies, no one's responsible for the... Yeah. Except the Mayans, obviously. Yeah, it's their fault. But isn't it also that you might have been beginning to say this
Starting point is 00:28:46 and maybe you did say it and I missed it, but the Mayan calendar was just ending and then a different calendar began? Was that the idea? I believe that the Mayan calendar, it just ends ultimately because they just couldn't imagine any further time past that. Okay, fair enough. They were like, I think the idea was that whoever built the Mayan calendar, they sort of did it like a king was like, build me a calendar.
Starting point is 00:29:09 And they went, okay, we'll make it go for 2,000 years. Yeah. Because that's as far as anybody could even conceive. Yeah, right. Like it's not that they were like, and then the world's going to end. It was basically, and we'll all be dead by then. What does it matter? Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I'm only getting paid to do 2,000 years. You've probably got to behead me and throw me in a volcano anyway. Yeah, exactly. It's more bureaucratic reasoning than anything else. I understand. Anyway, they're all out running the weather and the tectonic plates and they have to get to an arc in one of them and Jake Gyllenhaal's in the cold one with Dennis Quaid
Starting point is 00:29:43 and the other one's got John Cusack and he's driving a limo. But he's the best goddamn limo driver you've ever seen. What about Logan? He'd probably be better than Logan. Wow. Yeah, because Logan would be sleeping in his limo and the tectonic plates would shift and he wouldn't even notice that he'd fallen in the lava.
Starting point is 00:29:57 That's probably true. That's what I think. He's a drunk is what I'm saying. Oh, I see. I get it. Yeah, there we go. What have you got though? Look, I just now, I feel I, look, I've got some things, but.
Starting point is 00:30:10 I love things. I've got some options of my own. However, I Googled end of the world movies just to see what would come up. And the first link that I really liked was 20 best end of the world movies for when you're feeling like a wild ride from Good Housekeeping magazine. What is this for? Good, like, bored homekeepers? I guess.
Starting point is 00:30:32 But I'm just fascinated. I'm fascinated by a list from, yeah, I guess. What year? It's from March the 17th, 2020. Wow. So it's this year's. Yeah, that's very recent. Just people going like, well, I've done some home renovation
Starting point is 00:30:50 and I've cooked dinner for the kids. Now time to think about the world ending. So what have they got? Well, first of all, I have a movie from 2019 called The Wandering Earth, which is- Is that a Netflix movie? No, it's one of the biggest, highest-grossing movies of 2019. Oh, I know that one.
Starting point is 00:31:06 But it's from China. Yeah, that movie that I think a lot of people, not a lot of people, some people are like, talk about that. Oh, it is on Netflix apparently, yeah. Yeah, okay. I heard it's not great though. A group of scientists who seek to physically move the Earth to get it away from the ever-expanding sun
Starting point is 00:31:18 while avoiding collision with Jupiter. Now on the face of it, that seems like the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, but? No, that's it of it, that seems like the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, but? No, that's it. Oh, yeah. There's no contrasting evidence to say it isn't the dumbest thing in the world. So I'm afraid I'm going to have to put my foot down and make a judgment
Starting point is 00:31:34 that that sounds like the dumbest thing in the world. I am, however, going to put it on my Netflix queue. I've got here, when the sun dies out, the people of Earth build giant thrusters to move the planet out of orbit and sail to a new star system. About 2,500 years, young people continue to fight for everyone's survival. So who do you think is accurate here then? I mean, they all seem very accurate. They're wildly accurate, aren't they?
Starting point is 00:31:55 Because this one is – oh, I see. It does say they're moving, okay, the ever-expanding sun. They have moved it or they moved it? They seek to physically move the Earth. Okay, all right. They've got a jet on it. But you know what? Wouldn't they moved it? They seek to physically move the Earth. With a big jet on it. Wouldn't they need a shield around it to lock in the heat? What about light and stuff? How do you grow plants? If you just shoot the Earth off
Starting point is 00:32:13 to the blackness of space, do we hit another star? We are just reading from the script. This is a group of scientists. They're discussing how they're going to move the Earth. How are we going to get around Jupiter? I don't know. It's a pretty big space, so we could probably go around it pretty easily. Aren't the people on the front facing end going to get a bit squished from the G-forces? You know?
Starting point is 00:32:32 They're going to be like... Where do we put the jet? Exactly. Just plonk it in the middle of a continent? Which continent? Isn't all the water from one side of the Earth going to move around to the other side of the Earth? Going to get a bit wet over the other side? That's a really good point. People are going to get bloody soaked over the other side of the earth. Get a bit wet over the other side. That's a really good point.
Starting point is 00:32:45 People are going to get bloody soaked over the other side of the earth. They're just going to have to put up with it. Yeah. Yeah. They'd probably put the jet in the middle of Australia, wouldn't they? Those sons of bitches. Maybe, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:56 No, you know what? They'd put it in. I feel they'd put it in the middle of the ocean. Yeah. But... Hard to build though, right? Well, that's what I'm saying. I imagine they'd put it in like the
Starting point is 00:33:05 middle of the ocean but like the exhaust would just just melt the ice caps and and you know really really mess up our weather yeah well but there'd be one person just out on bondi beach or whatever just in a deck chair their skin melting off yeah like yeah this is cool summer 24 7 yeah exactly uh anyway have it a real one that we have both seen i know for certain that was real 2013's this is the end which one's that it's the of the two the world is ending movies that came out i believe that yeah this is the seth rogan one i like that movie yeah that's a biblical one it is the biblical one that's quite fun we see a real big satan at the end yeah if i recall i like the idea also that they're all playing worse versions of themselves and it is It's the biblical one. It is the biblical one, yeah. That's quite fun. We see a real big Satan at the end, if I recall.
Starting point is 00:33:48 I like the idea also that they're all playing worse versions of themselves and it is a send-up of like Hollywood celebrity and there's some pretty gruesome deaths and Michael Cera's awful and has an awful death. This is the one where Jay Baruchel's character, is he a failure and he? No, he plays himself. Yes. But he doesn't like the Hollywood lifestyle. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:34:06 And he thinks Seth Green, Seth Green probably, Seth Rogen has gone to Hollywood. Yeah, right. He hates all of Seth Rogen's Hollywood friends, including Jonah Hill. Jonah Hill, yeah. Yeah. And there's a big Satan with a big giant dick at the end of it.
Starting point is 00:34:20 That's right, yes. And it's got, look, not to spoil the ending, but it's also got a great ending. Yeah. Yeah, it's got a fun ending. I like that one. It's pretty, I have not rewatched it since it came out. I think I've watched it a couple of times, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:30 It's very watchable. It's very watchable and it's also, I feel we should rate these movies on, considering the uncertain times we live in, should we be watching this? Yeah, there's a fun factor to that. Because there's a fun factor and it's not this this isn't how we're gonna go you know what i mean satan isn't gonna return imagine if it did though yeah yeah it'd be so metal because every one guy on bondi yeah yeah well that's exactly it like some some of these i i feel like also we should rate it on what you know whether we would like
Starting point is 00:35:03 to be exist in this apocalyptic. That's interesting because what do you get raptured for? Because part of me is like, I'd love to hang around to see who's stuck. Yeah, right. Like, first you'd thought they were great. I knew it. And then be like, you're here too. But you'd be like, yeah, but I suck.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I know I suck. I never claimed I was good. I've always said I've been bad and lame. No, I think that would be amazing just to see the people that were left. I think that would be incredible, which also is a big plot point of this movie. And a big plot point of the Left Behind series, the Kirk Cameron. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:37 The movies born from the novels, which I haven't seen, but they seem less fun. Yeah? Why is Kirk Cameron left behind? I would probably guess something to do with a dead wife. I would be willing to bet I don't know any of the details, but I'd be
Starting point is 00:35:51 willing to bet dead wife or dead daughter, and he feels guilty about it and therefore he's still on Earth. But then when he forgives himself... Maybe he goes back into heaven. Well, if you've seen those movies, we're sorry, but let us know. Maybe they're great. Maybe they are great. Maybe they're so bad it's good, but I doubt it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:07 I don't like that guy. But, yeah, I mean, you have to wonder, like, when you go into a This Is The End style universe, is it kind of a – and we're speaking of, we're talking about Fury Road. I'd like to talk about Fury Road. Definitely. We could talk about all of those. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:21 How well do you think you'd do? Oh, my God. In, like, The Devil's Everywhere? Yeah. Really bad. Absolutely, yeah. It would just be not good at all. Are there horrible devil monsters chasing them in This Is The End?
Starting point is 00:36:34 There are, yeah. There's demons and various creatures that, yeah, and they all kind of slowly admit to things that they've done and all of those things. But it's a great movie. Yeah. And you should watch it. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:36:45 If you haven't. There was someone I wanted to bring up who made a great video on the Kurt Cameron films. Oh, yes. Is it Lindsay Ellis? Seems like something she would do. But it's a Lindsay Ellis type, and by that I mean a girl. There are two types of content creators on the internet,
Starting point is 00:37:02 just big, loud, bearded dudes and lindsey ellis types girls those are the only two types exactly but they're my favorite too so that's all i really need yeah maggie may fish that's right i just remembered uh-huh yeah she does a great kirk cameron she covers a bunch of them a bunch of those movies definitely check them out what else oh good question well you did the last one. I could do one, actually. Maybe you could do one. Maybe get off your tookus and do one. All right.
Starting point is 00:37:30 This is from Jeremy Miller, Planet of the Apes. Which ones? I mean, because some are viruses, and we obviously can't talk about the virus ones, but some are just apes. But also, they may be the one series, or are they? They're like those movies. Some of them. The new ones, ones obviously what a great trilogy video game which we played that time i hated it do you ever play that new one because
Starting point is 00:37:50 they made a new game the vr one yeah no i think they actually made like a third person thing as well oh maybe maybe there was but you don't get the full experience unless you're in the vr headset i'd imagine so yeah no i didn't play it apparently very good uh but yeah playing the apes yeah so i mean virus related, but would you say it's more the chimps that are driving that extinction? Yeah, it's certainly... Because I think the people would be able to fight back more if they didn't have the virus.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Yeah. The virus wasn't knocking them out. And at the same time, they might find a cure for the virus if they're not constantly being attacked by chimps. You know? Maybe they shouldn't have started that war for the Planet of the Apes. That's what I'm talking about. When does the virus kick in in those movies? End of the X. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:38:26 When does the virus kick in in those movies? End of the first one. Remember Pilot gets it? Well, a few people get it, like John Goodman is going to get it. A few people get it. I can't remember. Who can get it? Who can get it?
Starting point is 00:38:35 It's good movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's good movies. Okay, I can quickly do another one, though. Okay. From Douglas Says Waterworld. Yeah. Your polar ice caps have melted, which apparently if it really did happen, it wouldn't actually flood the entire Earth. Don't get me wrong. It would beworld. Yeah. The polar ice caps have melted, which apparently if it really did happen,
Starting point is 00:38:46 it wouldn't actually flood the entire Earth. Don't get me wrong, it would be catastrophic. Yeah. But it wouldn't cover the whole world in water. It'd kill a lot of penguins. It would kill too many of the penguins. Just leave us some that we can look at them and go. And enjoy for meat.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Yes, enjoy for meat. Waterworld gets a bad rap because it's a weird vanity project. Oh, yeah, right. But it's okay. What if Kevin Costner's movies aren't weird vanity projects um superman oh yep did that for a paycheck yeah cool uh mr brooks mr brooks that's good i like that movie yeah he's a good actor like he he obviously bottomed out in the 90s with this and the postman and you know and then various other things but he's done he's a consistently good actor in mostly good things, I would say.
Starting point is 00:39:27 But Waterworld is, he's a weird fish mutant man. Dirt is expensive. People are drinking their own piss. Dennis Hopper's like, what do you think of this? Oh my God, in Waterworld, dirt's expensive. In Fury Road, water's expensive. I'd say, why don't we just have a happy medium? Where both dirt and water are at a reasonable price.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Yeah, well, they could mix them together and make like a mud and you could use that one currency. Yeah, that's right. A mud, handfuls of mud. Handfuls of mud. Maybe a glad bag full of mud. Yeah. Let's talk about Mad Max there.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I'm here, I need guns and gasoline. I have this garbage bag full of mud. And they're like, ooh, big spender. So Mad Max, the first one, isn't really apocalypse. It's like a small town crime spree. Yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah. Society is mostly
Starting point is 00:40:18 still holding together. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So, but then it's two things really kick into gear we've never had like a we've never had an i would maybe appreciate an intercool in between mad max and to the road warrior yeah where we see society actually there maybe there's a comic book version there might be where we see there's that furiosa comic right but that's not no that's yeah yeah but this one it's like well how did we go from how did we go from, how did we go from, okay,
Starting point is 00:40:47 well, there's some, this is a regular kind of. Keep talking. I'm going to grab my dog. But I need you here to laugh at my lame stuff that I say. I can laugh. I laugh loud. Okay, cool. Is she after possums? Yeah, possums.
Starting point is 00:40:57 She's behind you. Okie dokie. Come here, dog. I'm here to touch your nose. Hello. I know. You're doing great. You're doing great.
Starting point is 00:41:04 I'm going to boop you. I've got to get that possum. Yeah, you've got a good wet nose. I've got a possum trap I've got to put out nose. Hello. I know. You're doing great. You're doing great. I'm going to boop you. I've got to get that possum. Yeah, you've got a good wet nose. I've got a possum trap I've got to put out. Not to kill them. You get them in the trap and then you relocate them. And then you relocate them to the oven. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:41:14 And then have a delicious possum stew. Oh. Yeah. Now that's what I call possum magic. Yes. That's a great reference. A stew full of dead possums. Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 00:41:22 I'm sorry, you were saying? I was saying surely there's a progression between it's like a small town that looks like Shepparton 70s, you know, it's just regional and they probably have a bakery that has an award-winning vanilla slice. Yeah, but it's not that good, really? Yeah, that's exactly it.
Starting point is 00:41:37 I mean, it's pretty good, but I could probably just go to my local bakery. Go to the CBD, you get a pretty good ass one there. Like an artisanal one. They've deconstructed it. They've deconstructed it. They've deconstructed it, right, exactly. It's a bag of wheat flour. And just, anyway, you make it yourself. That's right.
Starting point is 00:41:53 No, you smoke it. You roll it into a cigarette and you smoke it. Oh, vanillary. But anyway, it's weird. There's a movie where it's just you're in a regional town and the cops are having a tough time with violent gangs. And then everybody's built a fortress that's being accosted by men in arseless chaps and hockey masks.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Like what happened in the middle? I want to see that. I want to see that guy. I want to see Lord Humongous. You know, he gets the back of his pants torn out by a rabid dog or something like that. He's like, you know what? I kind of like this.
Starting point is 00:42:23 It's kind of nice. It's hot out here. I like this breeze. And look, if you've got it, flaunt it. Exactly. I say. But yeah. And someone's like, look at this humongous butt.
Starting point is 00:42:32 And he goes, humongous? Wait a minute. I don't know if I want to see that. I'm going to be humongous butt. I kind of like the idea that there is that jump. Also, none of those movies are set in the same continuity. No, I know, I understand. But that's the thing, I think I want to see it just for the challenge of it. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Just to see if somebody can, a filmmaker can bridge that gap. I wonder if the Furiosa thing will do it. Maybe, yeah. Maybe. I also, I like the idea that the Max from the new Mad Max is actually the dog boy. And it doesn't really work because he's got the dead family, but dog boy could have got have had his own family.
Starting point is 00:43:06 But also it's not specifically. Like they're not, you don't go, if you look at them, if you look at the original two or even three and you look at the flashbacks he has in Fury Road, they're not the same people. No, which speaks to the idea that they're actually all in completely different continuity. Yeah, and I mean there's touches like his sawn-off shotgun
Starting point is 00:43:24 and stuff like that. Yeah, but I mean, there's touches like his sawn-off shotgun and stuff like that. But he could have modelled himself off. He might have inherited all of original Mad Max's stuff. Yeah, exactly. And his haircut. And his haircut. And his cape situation he had. And just the bad knee, all of the things.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Yeah, right. I did start to play that Mad Max game because it was available. I hear it's very good. It is good, but I had to start playing a bunch of other games, which we'll talk about later for Caravan of Garbage. But no, Mad Max is terrific, especially Fury Road, which is by far the best by quite a long way.
Starting point is 00:43:54 But two's actually really solid, I would say. Yeah, you're probably right. Yeah, we've watched them. Yeah, no, but I mean, given the choice, I'm not going back to two. Oh no, you watched four. Yeah, exactly. If it's on Netflix, which probably is or is not. That's right. Well, Melina says A Quiet Place.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Yes. You know what happens in that movie? What happens in that movie? No virus. It's true. Big spindly spider monsters. They hear you. They're like, who's up to the trouble?
Starting point is 00:44:19 Come and get you. Who's making noise? And then there's always, they're like, I'm going to issue them a fine. But then there's a misunderstanding as always yeah of course somebody's kid gets killed and somebody films it
Starting point is 00:44:29 on their iPhone and uploads it to Twitter and people are like this is actually unacceptable these monsters are eating us these monsters are cancelled yeah that's right yeah
Starting point is 00:44:36 I like the world of Quiet Place even if the people in the world of Quiet Place haven't quite figured out how to live in it yet right exactly they don't know the best case scenario
Starting point is 00:44:44 how to live they're just laying down bags exactly. They don't know the best case scenario how to live. They're just laying down bags of flour or sawdust and walking around. You know, the best thing to do to light up this particular room is a glass lantern that produces fire and noise and broken glass. That's right. That's definitely, that'll do it. The dog's really coming at you today, Mason. I've checked, though.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Yeah. Cold, wet nose. Oh, good. Excellent. Fantastic. You're doing fine, dog. You're doing all right. Did you bop her right on the nose?
Starting point is 00:45:09 I did. I'll do it again. Boop. Ephraim says. Yes. X-Men Apocalypse. I mean, he's aiming for an apocalypse. But in a way, he does do an apocalypse because he pulls all the metal out of the earth.
Starting point is 00:45:22 But then in the follow-up movie, also that's maybe a prequel. Let's not talk about it. I don't want to talk about X-Men movies. Look, you would think that a movie called X-Men Apocalypse would be tailor-made for an episode of a podcast talking about the apocalypse. Oh, yeah. But honestly, and it's a podcast that talks predominantly about comic book movies, but to be honest,
Starting point is 00:45:42 they've burned all their bridges. I'm not going back to any of these. I hate them. I'm sick to death of these X-Men movies. But to be honest, they've burned all their bridges. I'm not going back to any of these. I hate them. I'm sick to death of these X-Men movies. They're bad. I don't like them. Have you heard of the movie Threads? No, tell me about it.
Starting point is 00:45:54 It's like an apocalypse movie. Apparently it's amazing. This comes from Thomas. It's a devastating nuclear war movie. There you go. Okay, here's one I want to talk about. I love it. And I know you've seen this one.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Will say. Aye. I'll be the judge of whether I've seen it. And, of course, either of us could have been in the background because I'm pretty sure it was filmed in Australia. 2009's Daybreakers. Do you remember Daybreakers? I do remember Daybreakers.
Starting point is 00:46:15 I feel technically it might be a virus movie, but it's a vampiric virus movie. It's got Ethan Hawke in it. I'm not going to let that slide. Sam Neill's in it. He is. Others? Yeah, others.
Starting point is 00:46:24 It's the movie where the predominant, the dominant life form on earth is the vampire. The Draculas. The Draculas, absolutely, yeah. My apologies. Where do they come from? A virus. Yeah, but like is it a man-made thing?
Starting point is 00:46:36 Does a Dracula come back and be like, I'm back and I'm ready to bite? Let's look it up real quick. Let's look it up real quick. What I do, yeah, so the status quo in that movie is that people are kept in like factories and just cycling for blood and the blood is given to people yes then when they find a cure which is something to do with being smashed through a windscreen and sunlight yeah what what is it what's fascinating to me about this i like it by the way i can't remember liking it i remember i remember the that exact thing being like, look, I like the world and that, you know, everything's been adapted to vampire,
Starting point is 00:47:09 I'm sorry, Dracula. And it's fairly low budget. Yeah, everything's been adapted to sort of Dracula physiology, like all the car windows have been tinted out, et cetera. Yeah, and Ethan Hawke is trying to make a synthetic human blood and et cetera. But the thing that annoyed me in that is that the whole concept of it falls down when we discover that the cure for vampirism is you as a vampire get exposed to sunlight for a certain amount of time and then you fall into some water.
Starting point is 00:47:42 And then you're not a vampire anymore. Like surely this would have happened thousands of times at this point. Millions of times. It didn't happen. It hadn't actually happened. This is a plague caused by an infected bat. I've gone too far. Typical worst thing, Mason.
Starting point is 00:47:59 This is the opposite of what I wanted. That's very typical, isn't it? Yeah, it is. It really is. Check it out, people. What do you think of it? We can't talk about it, though. Speaking of things we can't talk about, Jace says 28 days
Starting point is 00:48:10 slash weeks later, virus movie, zombie movie. I think it's virus movies and zombie movies. It's a different topic. I think so, too. Why do that for Train to Busan or something? Yeah, and I think you're right in that that's not what's going to happen right now. Not yet.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Yeah. I don't think the world, I think there's people out there, specifically people who have bunkers full of weapons and food, that would love a virus like that. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. I mean, and this is, the situation we're in right now is exactly what they don't want to happen because they're not prepared for it.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Stay at home. They're prepared. All the preppers out there, I listened to a podcast about this recently. All the preppers out there are prepared for a brief stay in a bunker, then a violent uprising, and then they're the leaders. What they're not expecting is that- Society bands together? Yeah, society bands together and we all help each other,
Starting point is 00:49:01 which seems to, for the most part, what is happening. People are doing nice stuff and posting about it on Twitter. Yeah. So, yeah. So they're really not expecting, what they're not expecting, what they're expecting is to be able to get out of their house and snipe at zombies. Yes. What they're not expecting is they might get, they might go too close to somebody and get
Starting point is 00:49:18 a weird, horrible flu and then they're bedridden for weeks. It's not very glamorous, is it? It's not glamorous, is it? I'm sure there's people who- I guess they could shoot their gun out the window. But I'd imagine there are a lot of preppers who just stockpile food and supplies, which this is like the ideal scenario. Oh, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:49:32 I'm sure it's not all just lunatics waiting to kill their neighbours. I think it's almost exclusively lunatics waiting to kill their neighbours. You're surrounded by them here. I've asked them all. Oh, really? Yeah, they've all been like- I'd crush them all. They've all built a coalition together.
Starting point is 00:49:47 They've got a flag with your face on it. Really? And they're like. Because I'm their leader. That's how I see that. Okay. I'm trying to think if I could. Maybe you could.
Starting point is 00:49:55 I probably couldn't kill my neighbors, actually. I'm just thinking about them. Yeah. Probably not. I'd probably lose that. They're just crossing their fingers hoping this turns into shoot your neighbor's territory. And then they'll be like alright
Starting point is 00:50:05 so Ethan says can we get some love for the OG Mad Max, we did Mike says Towering Inferno or any of the 70s classics, Towering Inferno isn't a, it's not a apocalypse movie, the Tower's on fire right you seen the movie Legion
Starting point is 00:50:22 Christopher asks yeah the Paul Bettany movie. Yes. Uh-huh. Have I seen that? Here's the thing. I think right at about that time there was also an Australian movie. It's called Gabriel.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Gabriel, which is basically the same movie. The guy who was in Spartacus who ended up dying. Yeah. That was the lead of that movie. It was very stylized, kind of Matrix-esque. It was very Matrix-esque. Pretty low budget. It was about that time, like the early 2000s?
Starting point is 00:50:45 Yeah, it was around. I think it was a bit before Legion. Yeah. Maybe four or five years. But it's why we confuse the two because stylistically they're quite similar. Also, I think I haven't seen Legion. Well, maybe I have. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:50:55 You might also be thinking of the movie Priest, which I think Paul Bettany is also in. That one I definitely haven't seen. Maybe I have seen Legion. Right. Yeah, anyway, the angels come back and he's like, I'm an angel but I've got machine guns and abs. I an action star now that's a whole subgenre i think of angels having angels they're angels and they've got abs and machine guns the punisher was briefly an angel
Starting point is 00:51:14 but he also had abs and machine guns if you recall in the comic books he came back as an angel right right yeah he came back it's that mad max situation where it was like he came back and briefly he was an angel and then he's like and then in his next series he was just regular the punisher again what happened it never really reveals it he's just like i guess i didn't feel like being an angel anymore they're like all right let him out of this contract i guess they did yeah they're like damn we never expected anybody to say the magic words i don't really want to be an angel anymore and just run your that your back with your wings across a brick wall and just shred them off. Exactly. Yeah. But, yeah, Gabriel was a sort of a very low-budget Australian movie, probably filmed on Hollywood on the Gold Coast.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Yeah, it seems that way. Warner Brothers Movie World. Very low budget and it was set in Purgatory, I think. Should we give it a rewatch? Yeah, or what was left of Earth at least because maybe the rapture had happened and Gabriel comes back to Earth but he's only got limited angel powers. That's right. And he can only use a little bit of his – because once you're on earth, but he's only got limited angel powers. That's right. And he can only use a little bit of his,
Starting point is 00:52:07 because once you're on earth, you don't have your unlimited angels. If anyone has seen that recently, any connoisseurs of low budget cinema, let us know how it holds up in the recent past. Please let us know. Should I rewatch that again? I'm just going to quickly look it up. Okay, please do. That's from 2007.
Starting point is 00:52:23 And Legion was 2010. So I thought it was earlier than that. There you go. Yeah, Andy Whitfield was in it. Yeah, who ended up being in Spartacus and then passed. It's not on Netflix, but I could watch any number of Gabriel Iglesias stand-up specials. Oh, really? So you could put those on my list.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Or the sitcom Mr. Iglesias, also starring Gabriel Iglesias. I figured as much. Yeah, very good. What about this one? Oh, yes. Tristan Pease, who you should also follow around Instagram. Does some as much. Yeah. Very good. What about this one? Oh, yes. Tristan Pease, who you should also follow her on Instagram. Does some great art on Instagram. Terrific art.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Really great stuff. Not spelled how you'd think. No. But also great, you know, staying at home vibes kind of stuff going on. She's having a bloody drink. She's having a good time. She's having a quarantine. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Yes. Got cool cats. Anyway, she says, doesn't sunshine kind of count? Absolutely it does. And let's talk about it again. I mean, here's the thing. It's not a virus. No, it's not a virus.
Starting point is 00:53:09 But look, honestly, we've already talked about a bunch of scientists moving the entire Earth. And after that, the movie Sunshine is a bit of an anticlimax, isn't it really? What are you talking about? They're going towards the sun. That's more climactic, if anything. It's less climactic than slingshotting a planet into another solar system that's a fair point with a big jet on it maybe they could if you were like listen we've got two options here where we're earth's getting a bit cold yep option one is relight the sun option two put the planet in a big child slingshot like we're gonna build a
Starting point is 00:53:43 really big one in space and we're gonna we're gonna build and in like Like we're going to build a really big one in space and we're going to build like a Dennis the Menace the size of Jupiter. He's going to operate the slingshot and he's going to fire Earth out of the solar system throughout the galaxy. I mean the second one's more fun, isn't it? Yeah, but it's not rated as well. No, that's true. I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Maybe it's better. But for those who don't know, the sun is dying. Yes. They don't really elaborate it on in the movie why it is, but it's got a black, it's got a miniature black hole. Yes. Which is basically sucking the life out of it. And so Earth is cooling, right?
Starting point is 00:54:15 Yeah. That sounds bloody nice in my bloody right, Mason. You know what I mean? Bounce it up, buddy. Anyway, so they've sent a team of scientists to reignite the sun by firing a nuclear weapon of sorts into it. They'd already sent a previous team and that team disappeared maybe because of sun madness. Yeah. Probably some people look at it. The sun is very common. Yeah. Yeah. And it's look,
Starting point is 00:54:32 I know I talk about it a lot, but it's actually really terrific. And some people don't like the third act because it completely shifts in tone. But I really like it. I think it's fantastic. I think it's probably, it's one of Danny Boyle's best films. He's obviously got other great films, but I think it's terrific. And you love it too. We both think it's the best movie. I actually think it's pretty good. Do you really?
Starting point is 00:54:54 Yeah, it's pretty good. Okay, good. What else? Oh, good question. Thanks. I'm going to check my good housekeeping list. All right, well, while you're doing that, why don't we chuck in from another one from Christopher.
Starting point is 00:55:04 It says Book of Eli. Let's spoil the Book of Eli. You know what? I didn't have a chance to watch it. That was one on my list that I'm like, I should rewatch this before we do this podcast. Because people still talk about Book of Eli. Because of the spoiler of the Book of Eli.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Denzel Washington stars as a man. He's trekking across America for some reason involving a Book of Eli. He's looking for the Book of Eli. He's looking for the Book of Eli. He's looking for the book of Eli. Or he has the book of Eli. But, yeah, maybe he's trying to transport the book of Eli. It's not important.
Starting point is 00:55:32 What is important is the spoiler of the book of Eli as at the end of the movie we discover that Denzel Washington's character, maybe his name is Eli, but we discover at the end of the movie that Denzel Washington's character Eli is in fact blind and he's been doing all his action sequences. His name is Eli. Yes. I knew I had to nail it eventually. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:51 That he turns out he's blind and he's been doing all these action sequences and stuff while blind. Yes. And I wanted to go back and re-watch this movie to see if it still holds up, knowing that his character's blind or if there's any, if the clues are blatantly obvious in watching the movie. Yes. Knowing what the answer is. I don't remember loving it, but it's got a good style to it.
Starting point is 00:56:09 I don't like also that kind of washed out look that a lot of movies did at the time and some still do. Yeah, yeah. The colour gradings have gone a bit too far on it. What's your Apocalypse outfit? Just a side note. Jeans and a tee. No, you're just putting your name into Google.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Okay. And then Apocalypse outfit. Put my name and then Apocalypse Outfit. Yeah, Outfit into Google and just give me the first image result. Let me know what it is. Oh, that's rad. Oh, yeah, what have you got? I'm being taken to Pinterest.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Google never wants you to go to Pinterest. It's like, are you sure you want to go to Pinterest? Yeah. Mine's a Shadow of the Tomb Raider. Yeah, yeah. Art station work. Yep. By Michael Verhaef.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Oh. I mean, look, it's for women, but I think men could wear that too. I think you've got like a nice off-the-shoulder number. Yeah, that's right. You've got one exposed shoulder. It might be a bit chilly, but you've got a cape on the other side. Look at how many things, how many knives I could put in my shin pads. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Now, I've got here. What have you got? I've got a staff too. Oh, that's pretty good. Sick. And a handgun. I've put in Nick Apocalypse outfits. Oh, you're supposed to put in just first name.
Starting point is 00:57:03 That's what I did. Well, I blew it. Anyway, so go on. So this is a guy. I think maybe he's a cosplayer or something. He's got a character named Death X Hawk. And it's like, look at this. I'm a real sort of samurai situation, but he's got reindeer horns.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Are you wearing a reindeer hat? It looks like I'm wearing some... Like the whole head? It looks like a wicker hockey goalkeeper mask. Yes. But it's got reindeer horns and I've got a lot of pouches so that's good. My one, if you just put my first name, is quite similar. It's like Ned Kelly. Oh yeah, that's
Starting point is 00:57:40 not bad. Just covered in dirty rags. Got some red little pop of colour there. Yeah, you've got to have that. Pretty good, yeah. I feel like I would have to cover my arms, I think, because that's a little bit exposed. I think I get a bit chilly. What about you showing off the guns, though,
Starting point is 00:57:55 to have people can have a good peek at the pipes? Look, I have to do some swimming first, and then I'll show off the guns. You better get that infinity pool before things go bad. Oh, that's very good. I like the idea of this. Anyway, people could send us theirs on Twitter. Please, let us know, yeah. Great.
Starting point is 00:58:08 We'd love to see them. What else have we got? Let's see. I'm bringing this up. I'm bringing this up. Simon Morgan says The Quiet Earth. Have you ever seen The Quiet Earth? No, what's The Quiet Earth?
Starting point is 00:58:16 If it's the one I'm thinking of. Is it based on a book? It sounds like it would be based on a book. It's an Australian movie. Yeah, it's an Australian apocalypse movie. So basically this guy wakes up, and I never actually finished this, but it's from 1986, and everyone's gone. It's an Australian movie. Yeah, it's an Australian apocalypse movie. So basically this guy wakes up and I never actually finished this, but it's from 1986 and everyone's gone.
Starting point is 00:58:28 It's just him. Oh. There was some kind of weird nuclear accident and maybe he shifted into a parallel dimension or something. Okay. Anyway, I didn't finish it, but it's really visually quite striking and if you want to watch a man go mad, then you certainly can. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:41 I mean, I get that for free here. Yeah, well, that's true. Don't you just? Yes. What else you got? I've not seen certainly can. Yeah. I mean, I get that for free here. Yeah, well, that's true. Don't you just? Yes. What else you got? I've not seen this one. Okay. But I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:58:50 I've seen it. You haven't seen it. There's no way you've seen this one. We'll see. It's a movie you'd think you'd want to put on your list, but you would never get to it. Okay. 2011's Take Shelter with Michael Shannon in it.
Starting point is 00:59:03 I have no idea what that is. See, there you go. What's that about? Let me check. He has a series of prophetic dreams about the world ending. This has got massive, this is really well regarded. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think this might go on my list for this week.
Starting point is 00:59:17 And it's got Michael Shannon in it. Psychological thriller directed by Jeff Nichols. Nicholas starring. Jessica Chastain's in it as well. Yeah, somebody on Twitter suggested this week that Michael Shannon's look, his overall aesthetic, like his red carpet aesthetic, comes from rebelling against the fact that he's always a cop in movies because it's always just like Hawaiian shirts and a pith helmet.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Like he's always like that. I don't know. Except for his look in Pearl Harbor. Yeah. But I don't know Except for his look in Pearl Harbour Yeah, but I don't know, I like Michael Shannon and everything I should do a Michael Shannon week, just watch every Michael Shannon movie Every one of them? Yes Great, have you seen The Shape of Water?
Starting point is 00:59:55 Yes He's wearing a fun Christmas sweater in this one Right He's just having fun Yes This guy seems great I think so too I like him
Starting point is 01:00:02 Okay, I'm actually going to check that out Right Not a movie, says Piers, but The Last of Us is pretty rad Great. I think so too. I like him. Yeah. Okay. I'm actually going to check that out. Right. Not a movie says Piers, but The Last of Us is pretty rad. Yeah. And that got a huge leaks this week. I don't know if you saw that. It got huge leaks and huge delays, I think.
Starting point is 01:00:15 I know. They actually have the release date for it now. Oh, they do. Okay. June, I think. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I haven't, I didn't read the leaks.
Starting point is 01:00:22 People could not send them to me. That'd be great. But yeah, I know. I didn't read them. But I haven't played the first one. So'd be great. But yeah, I know. I didn't read them. But I haven't played the first one. So yeah, well, that's true. So you're probably like, what? I'd be double spoiled for that.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Brady says the happening, AKA the crappening. So the trees have turned against Mark Wahlberg. Yes. And Zooey Duchesneau. And they're like, why are the trees turning against us? And they're like, maybe if the planet is- Let's get a chant going, guys. Why are the trees turning against us? Let's're like, maybe if the planet is- Let's get a chant going, guys. Why the trees?
Starting point is 01:00:45 Let's- Turning against us. Let's protest in front of Town Hall. Yes. Stop the trees. Burn all the trees. I, uh, I, it's not good. And the premise is kind of interesting though.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Yeah. But then they, they have really comical suicides, which don't help the movie. Have you seen it? No, I haven't seen it, no. Where a guy sits in the tiger pen and the tigers are just tearing his arms off and he's just standing there. There's a guy who lies down in front of like a wood chipper or something that goes over or something.
Starting point is 01:01:10 But it's funny. It looks like a Tim and Eric sketch. But it's not intended to be funny. No. Yeah. Not at all. I think once you insert death by wood chipper. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Like on purpose. Or it might be like a corn thresher or something like that. But it's still very funny. I don't, you know. No, I'd tapped out of Shyamalan movies long before then. Yeah, okay, fair enough. What about Thomas Crabtree who says Knowing? Which one's, that's a Nicolas Cage one.
Starting point is 01:01:33 But there's also the other one where Next, where you can see the future. Yeah, that's where I tapped out of Nicolas Cage movies. Me too. He's next. You can tell by his wig how seriously he's taking it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:42 And how's his wig looking in Knowing? Bad. Knowing's the one with Rose Byrne. Wait wait that doesn't help with my scale at all i'm sure they're all bad but what's the level i think there's better ones okay but i mean it's the is it the quality of the wig or the if he's okay if he's taking a movie seriously what does his wig it's a serious wig like if you look at the one where he's the weather i was gonna say where he's a weatherman the weatherman okay he's got a serious good time wig. That's a wig.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Yeah. He hasn't got much hair. No, I know. Yeah. So, you know, he's just, he's doing wigs. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, that looks like a man with very thinning hair.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Well, sometimes wigs are pretty good though. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. You're right. Have you seen Dr. Strange love? Christopher says.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Yes. I haven't. It's good though, right? It's fun. It's fun when they ride the bomb. Yes. He's like, woo. And everyone watching it't. It's good though, right? It's fun. It's when they ride the bomb. Yes. And he's like, woo. And everyone watching is like, is this a downer?
Starting point is 01:02:30 Yeah, it is. It's as relevant today as it ever was, James. Oh, isn't it just? Oh, my goodness. People are demanding, like Danny, to talk about Geostorm. Technically, it's not an apocalypse movie because all those sheiks who live in the towers in Dubai survive when the big wave hits Dubai. Do you remember?
Starting point is 01:02:48 So it's not an apocalypse movie. Well, they all survive, don't they? I know. I mean, they all survive in all of these. I was going to say, imminent apocalypse counts just as much. You just don't want to talk about the movie Geostorm. That's fine. We'll talk about it.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Well, people have also said that when we start our subscription thing, people would love one of the first commentaries to do is Geostorm. Okay, let's do it. And I'm more than happy to do it. Let's do it. Yes, please. So maybe we just save it for that. But what do you want to talk about for Geostorm between now and then?
Starting point is 01:03:12 Not a lot, really. We'll save it for the commentary, if I'm honest. Great. Brandy says, I am legend. Virus. Better as a book. Big virus. That is better as a book.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Also, vampires. Dracula. They're vampires. But did they change it for the – it's nearly a great movie. virus. That is better as a book. Also, vampires. But they changed it for the... It's nearly a great movie. You know? Yeah, you're right. It's good. I think it's very watchable, but it kind of
Starting point is 01:03:34 falls apart for me in certain places. How long would you survive in the I Am Legend universe? I'd be him. I'd be the last guy. I'd be working on the virus, but I don't know anything about biology, so I'm just pouring vials of blood and I'm mixing it with a Coca-Cola and I'm like, is this anything? You spend one day just walking down an aisle of a supermarket
Starting point is 01:03:53 just pouring blood into various. And that's the reason you're the last man left on earth is because the next person comes in and goes, oh, I just need some milk. I'm going to have a glass of milk. And they just drink it and they're like, oh, no. I've got some sort of blood disease now. So what's interesting about the book, though,
Starting point is 01:04:14 which I read just before it came out, is that it's about the last. Oh, you got an advance copy. Yeah, I did. No, it's from like the 50s or whatever. But it's about a man and he's the last man on earth. And because there is this vampiric, vampiric? I say vampiric.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Sure, that swept the world. And he suspects, and he's not a scientist. Yeah, he's just a guy. So he's trying to figure it out, but he's not equipped to do it. He's just pouring blood into things and mixing it with Coca-Cola. But he thinks the reason why he didn't get it is because he was bitten by a bat in the war or something. That's right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:43 But he doesn't know because he's not a scientist. Yeah, that's the only correlation he can think of. These kind of brain-dead vampires come to his house every night and they're trying to get in. Well, they're not brain-dead. Well, some are and some aren't. But what he does during the day. Some are aggressively sexy.
Starting point is 01:04:57 That's right. Some are aggressively sexy to lorry about. But what he does during the day, he goes around to the different houses and he stakes all the vampires or drags them out into the sun. Spoilers for the book. Which, by the way, you should read. Oh, yeah, it's a brisk read. It's like 70 pages or something.
Starting point is 01:05:10 It's short. But spoilers, go on. It's a novella. Yeah, I mean, eventually he encounters a woman who he believes, like him, is immune to this virus. Yes. But then it turns out she's also a vampire, but she's a more evolved vampire.
Starting point is 01:05:28 She can survive in the daytime longer than regular vampires. And she is from like an enclave of vampires that are, you know, they've separated themselves from the rest of the world. Society has rebuilt itself as vampires. As vampires, yeah. But they know of a, they live in fear that they will, or their vampire brethren will go to sleep somewhere and then a lunatic with a bunch of stakes will show up
Starting point is 01:05:52 while they're sort of in their, because in this universe they have that vampiric torpor where they go to sleep and they're just sort of in a coma situation, they can't do anything. And so they live in fear that this lunatic will just show up and start staking them to death. So they've had to band together to find or protect each other from this thing and the Iron Legend in the title refers to him
Starting point is 01:06:13 because they're like this monster of a man. But as we've talked about before, in the movie he's a bit of a legend because he exploded himself with a grenade or something and maybe found the cure. But also we've talked about it before, the alternate ending to that is better. It's also a virus one. We can't even be talking about something. That's right. And maybe found the cure. But also, we've talked about it before, the alternate ending to that is better. It's also a virus one. We can't even be talking about this.
Starting point is 01:06:27 That's not a real rule. Just people will wonder. But it's, yeah, the virus turns out to, in the original one, he cures it. Yes. But the reason they're going after him is because one of them, a vampire couple that are in love, and he takes one of them to cure her. Sorry, a dark seeker couple. them to cure her sorry dark seeker couple yeah so they dark seeker that's why they come after him but if you do want a more accurate
Starting point is 01:06:49 uh take on i am legend there's a charlton heston movie from 1971 called the omega man yeah right which is sort of that apparently i've never seen it so there you go i i think i'm also the last man on earth with vincent price that's another one oh is it? It's been made and remade a bunch of times. Right. Okay. Cool. Never quite gotten it. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Terrific. Have you seen the birds? Dylan says the, um, the, the birds are like, we're birds. We don't like any of these people anymore.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Is that going to lead to an apocalypse? I have seen the birds apocalypse. Yes. I bet there's a movie called bird apocalypse. Oh, a hundred percent. There's a bird apocalypse. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:22 I think there even is. Yeah. I think it's, it's probably, it's probably a birdemic. People have talked about it. right. Uh huh. Yeah. There's bird. a Birdpocalypse. Yeah, I think there even is. I think it's probably an asylum. I know there's Birdemic people have talked about. Yeah, right, right. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Yeah. There's Birdpocalypse. Yeah, so, yeah, I don't know. Maybe. No, apparently there's not. Oh. Wait. No, there isn't.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Okay, wow. That's amazing to me. There's not a movie called Birdpocalypse. Yeah. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. The Hitchcock movies we're talking about. Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Yes. Another Liam, another knowing. John says War of the Worlds. But which version of War of the Worlds? Deadbeat Dad, Tom Cruise, War of the Worlds? Or the one where they're like, there's aliens and they've come and they're attacking. Oh, they all got sick. Isn't that what happens in Tom Cruise War of the Worlds?
Starting point is 01:07:57 Yeah, but there's more grenade launches in that one. That's true. Well, we can lump War of the Worlds and Independence Day in together, I think. I think we can, yeah. They are for all intents and purposes, the same movie. Yeah, sure. Good movies, maybe?
Starting point is 01:08:09 Tom Cruise movie? No, not a good movie. I don't think it is. Yeah. We won, my brother won a copy of War of the Worlds, a video game. I'll stop you there. Yeah. Which brother?
Starting point is 01:08:20 The one you do like. Oh, good for him. It was an RTS. This is in the era of Age of Empires. I'm like, this is going to be sick. So I started playing it. When you say he won one, was it one of those CD-ROMs you find in a cereal box? I think he won it from the Crud Show on Triple M.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Triple M's the Crud. Triple M Radio's the Crud Show. Anyway, so I'm like, this is going to be great. Did he have to do like a Rambo impression or something like that? No. He wrote in a letter or something. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Video game. I'm just going to check it out. it's from like 99 maybe yeah 98 oh anyway uh it's a bad game you start as the people and i'm like this is going to be interesting and you go in with your tanks and your water and they just swat you aside it's just over immediately is that the point of the game i don't know learn a lesson about the inevitability of alien destruction of the planet Earth? It's got a 4.9, though, and apparently it was very well reviewed, but I did not like it. Maybe I just didn't figure it out properly, but people seemed to enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:09:14 But, yeah, the original, obviously, play that people have talked about, the Orson Welles narrated version, that spooked people, apparently. There's another story about it. Yeah. HG Wells. Did Orson Welles read it? Yes, he did. Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Yeah. But I don't know whether how much of that is actually true. I think Dooga went to an episode on it. There's a lot of it is true. I mean, it's not, it's not like. Not the alien thing, the thing that people thought it was a real thing. Yeah, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Yeah. The, and it happened more than once as well. Yeah. Cause it plays like a news report where like a reporter's like, and it's coming out of the earth. Well, so if you want to listen to the Dugon episode, please do. But the short version is, there's actually a Radiolab episode on it as well. This is a real-time strategy from 1998.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Oh, there's also what I'm saying right now, the butchering of all those things that I've taken in over the years and the real information has gradually dripped out of my ears. Yes, yes, yes. With my brains and I'm going to sort of just make a real hash of it right now is that basically what happened was that it was announced that it was a piece of fiction ahead of it but at the time nobody was listening because there was a way more popular show
Starting point is 01:10:22 on another channel. Yeah. But then the guest, it was like a variety show, I think, the very popular show, and I think the guest was not very interesting or like not very, you know, people were not on board. I think maybe the host was not the host people were expecting, so they switched over to this other, they just channel surfed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:41 And at that point the- The Netflix of the day. Exactly. Switching the dial. The announcement that this was a piece of fiction and you should judge it as a piece of fiction had already been and gone and it was just news reports from this point forward and people- Freaked out.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Yeah, freaked out. Well, that's television for you. And it's happened- Or radio, I should say. And the experiment has happened a number of times. I think at one point it was also tried, I think, in Brazil and people burned the radio station down. Like afterwards in retaliation.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Yeah, in retaliation they burned it down, yeah. That's a very reasonable reaction. I agree. Would you assume that was real if you saw that? Because I wouldn't. If I saw footage on Twitter, I'd still be like, what is this really? No, absolutely. Is this a viral campaign? It would take me i'd still be like what is this really no absolutely
Starting point is 01:11:25 a viral campaign yeah it would take me three days to be like yeah but is it yeah some kind of elaborate ad for for what for some kind of detergent is this disintegrator beam that's disintegrating me right now is it supposed to disintegrate the the dirt and grime on my my clothes is that what it is is this disintegrator disintegrated brand washing powder? I'm just ahead now. I'm just being disintegrated. I do love in that movie, the newer one where Tom Cruise is running down the street as he always is, and it's vaporizing
Starting point is 01:11:54 people around him and he's just getting puffs of dry people getting like just wafted into his face and mouth. A few people have mentioned, including August Are we going to talk about Mars attacks, though? Oh, let's do that now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Haven't seen it. Okay, right. I know Pierce Brosnan is on a little dog's head or something. He is. He gets his brain transferred. Jack Nicholson's the president. He's a general, but yes. Yeah, great.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Jack Black's in it. It's an all-star cast of people. Sarah Jessica Parker. Look, you don't have to re-watch it. I will watch it at all because I've never seen it No, you really don't have to Okay, well I won't Okay, good
Starting point is 01:12:30 That's all I wanted to say really Anna Bening's in it, Michael J. Fox is in it Queen of Closers is in it Natalie Portman's in it Martin Short's in it, Danny DeVito's in it Tom Jones is in it Yeah Oh my god
Starting point is 01:12:43 Christina Applegate Oh my god, this is incredible Yeah. Oh, my God. Christina Applegate. Oh, my God. This is incredible. So, yeah, what do you think of that movie, though? I mean, it's interesting as a sort of, you know, a hyper-modern at the time retelling of kind of, you know, a 1950s sci-fi drama.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Frank Welker's in it, yeah. Yeah, they're all in it. Oh, yeah. Terrific, okay. All right, so maybe we'll watch that at some point one day. That's the kind of thing that people ask us to kind of cover on Caravan of Garbage, but because it's kind of a comedy movie that's kind of hard. It's a parody of itself.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of difficult to kind of do, yeah. And a lot of people, you know, it's a Tim Burton movie and a lot of people are like, well, it's bad on purpose. Yes. You know, it's a throwback to that and sort of Ed Wood movies. Exactly, yeah. It's meant to be kind of nonsensical and bizarre, so you can't really.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Yeah. It was Ecuador. Oh, it was Ecuador. Okay. Yeah, the War of the Worlds. You've cleared the good name of Brazil then. Thank you. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Terrific. Yes. Yeah. After it was revealed that the broadcast was fiction, the panic transformed into a riot. Hundreds attacked Radio Quito and El Comercio, a local newspaper, that had participated in the hoax by publishing false reports of unidentified objects in the skies above Ecuador. Oh, so they went out of their way to actually trick people.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Yeah, in the days preceding the broadcast. Okay, well, that makes sense to me then, that they would do that. Yeah, the riot resulted in at least seven deaths. Oh, shit. Yeah, right? What year was that? 1949. Bloody hell.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Yeah. And there'd just been a world war. Yeah, right? August and Kieran both mentioned The Road based on the book. One of them seems to like it and the other one doesn't because Kieran says, I lost two hours of my life to that film. You've seen The Road? I have seen The Road.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Harrowing. Yeah. That's worst case scenario for me. What was the, was it a pandemic though? I think it was a nuclear thing. Oh, okay. Right. I believe.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Oh, that's fine then. The book's great as well. Yeah, we're okay with that. But just the idea that- That was a Viggo Mortensen joint. It was. And Cody Smith McPhee, nice for all his own. But yeah, so he has to go.
Starting point is 01:14:36 They're basically looking for somewhere warm with food. Yeah. They're trying to get to the coast and everything's grey and horrible and there's cannibals. Yeah, wearing bin bags. Everybody's in a bin bag. You're always running out of food. It's not even a bin bag full of mud.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Yeah. They aren't even rich apocalypse survivors. It's strange because it's also one of those movies where it's like, why even survive? Like, for what? Right, yeah. You know? And there is elements of hope to it, but it's so bleak and very depressing.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Because how do you rebuild society after that? You don't. You just don't bother. I mean, what are you doing? Putting vials of blood in a Coca-Cola and swizzling around? That won't build you a town hall. That won't do a goddamn thing. A few people have also mentioned Children of Men.
Starting point is 01:15:17 It's a virus movie. It really is. I'd love to talk about it. But it's a great movie. It's tremendous, that movie, yeah. It really is. It's as relevant today as it was when it was made a few years ago. 2006?
Starting point is 01:15:30 I think it's older than you'd think it is. I reckon it's 2009. Let's check. Let's place a bet on it. $1,000. $1,000. It's actually 2006. You owe me $1,000.
Starting point is 01:15:42 So I will only accept cash or check. Bag of mud? I'll take a bag of mud. Okay, a big bag of mud. Okay. What's $1,000 worth of mud look like? It's half a bag of mud. I'm doing you a great deal.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Children and Men is well worth looking at. Yeah. And people talk about like the one-er in it. Maybe not right now. No, but it's also kind of, it's worse than what's now. Well, it is absolutely. I mean, that's something to bear in mind that it's, yeah, it's way worse than what's currently happening.
Starting point is 01:16:11 It's a terrific action movie within other things. Yeah. There's no children of men or women. So true. So true, isn't it? There's only children of people. That's right. Nearly makes you think.
Starting point is 01:16:24 And just the way that society shifts and again i think we mentioned this in weeks past but it's it's very much like it is very similar to now in that there is this global pandemic and everyone's just doing everyone's just going to work you know it's still happening and it's weird because there's also that idea of celebrity because youth is is really youth is important and the youngest person in the world who's 19 at this point is the most famous person in the world who's 19 at this point is the most famous person in the world. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:16:47 And he's horrible. Yeah. Because he's the most famous person in the world. And he's probably a YouTuber. He's probably a YouTuber. It seems that way in a lot of these movies. But no, it's great performances and it's just a terrific movie. And it's also hopeful.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Yeah. Is that it? I think that's it. That's every apocalypse movie. That's every apocalypse movie that doesn't include a pandemic except for the ones we didn't mention. Yeah. Hmm. Is that it? I think that's it. That's every apocalypse movie. That's every apocalypse movie that doesn't include a pandemic, except for the ones we didn't mention. That's right. And the ones we did mention that are about pandemics.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Sorry we didn't talk more about Birdpocalypse, but they didn't actually make that movie. It's not a real movie. It's not a real movie, yeah. 12 Monkeys, Graham says. I mean, that's pandemic and time travel. Yeah. I guess that counts.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Yeah. Pretty good. Oh, James also says Reign of Fire. Oh, my goodness. Love Reign of Fire. Have we talked about that recently, though?. Oh, James also says Reign of Fire. Oh, my goodness. Love Reign of Fire. Have we talked about that recently, though? I mean, a lot of these we've talked about recently.
Starting point is 01:17:32 You've got to give points to Reign of Fire for... Did we not do a list of dragons or something recently? Probably. Let's do a list of dragons next week. You might have been who won in a fight between Smaug and a dragon from Reign of Fire. Yeah, okay, that's a fair question. But the apocalypse comes about because there were dragons. It's something different, isn't it? Yeah, in ancient times, but then they were all-
Starting point is 01:17:48 They're back. They were all hibernating at the Earth's core. One was at the very least. One was, yeah, right. And he comes out and he's like, dragons are here and we're here to stay. Oh, we've all been murdered. It's the silliest movie ever made, but it's really- I think it's great and we should do it for Caravan of Garbage at some point.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Okay, let's do it. Okay. Well, do you know what it's time for then? Because we've got to move it along. We do. It's time foriest movie ever made, but I think it's great, and we should do it for Caravan of Garbage at some point. Okay, let's do it. Okay. Well, do you know what it's time for then? Because we've got to move it along. We do. It's time for What We're Reading. What we're going to read. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:13 I'm doing a thing. What are we reading today? What are you reading today, Mason? You know what I watched recently? It's a re-watch. Okay. But it's a good fun time for everyone. It's Chef.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Chef's great. Did you know there's an Indian remake coming out a couple of years later? Really? It's on Amazon Prime if you want to watch it. It's called Indian Chef? No, it's called Regular Chef. It's called Regular Chef just like the previous movie, Chef. I'm just a regular chef like Jon Favreau is a chef in the movie, Chef.
Starting point is 01:18:41 But? But I'm Indian, but that's not relevant to the story. It's not about that. It's not a race. Brackets, it's not a race Chef. But? But I'm Indian, but that's not relevant to the story. It's not about that. It's not a race. Brackets, it's not a race thing. Really? Yeah, I haven't watched it, but I think I might watch it just to see. Why not?
Starting point is 01:18:52 What are they cooking, though? Is it similar foods? I wonder if it's Cubanos. Fascinating to me. And beignets. Do you want Jon Favreau to cook you one of those? Yeah, kind of. Do you think he would?
Starting point is 01:19:03 I reckon if you're on set, he'd do one for you. oh but he's busy is he directing a movie he does that often like he'd often be like break time everybody let's all make some sandwiches together is that true yeah he'd make it well he made the kid from uh jungle book one oh that's fun so if you were starring in the jungle book he'd make you one okay right yeah can i make that happen somehow you could definitely do that he makes one with bill burr on his chef show as well. Yeah, right. Bill Burr's like, I only want to make those ever. But I love the idea of making those sandwiches, how intense they are about it.
Starting point is 01:19:33 It's so precise. It's not just slapping something together. It's let's do this properly. Yeah. You couldn't eat too many of them. They'd mess you up. I could eat four of those. Wow, that's too many maybe. I could do it.
Starting point is 01:19:43 I don't know. I've never had one. It could be just the right amount. And just the way he makes a toasted cheese sandwich. There's so many. It's crazy, right? So many layers of cheese. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:19:53 Yeah. I could go on right now. You can't. I will. But you're not allowed. I've got some cheeses in the house. If you want some cheeses. That's okay.
Starting point is 01:20:01 I think I have cheeses. What kind of bread do you want with that, though? You need a special brioche or something? Oh, yep, yep. You got a special brioche? No, I don't. I'm not a big fan, to be honest. It's a bit sweet.
Starting point is 01:20:10 Well, you're bread free a lot of the time. I'll do a bread free, but I'll do like a grainy bread. The thing is, I'll eat bread, like white bread. All right, we get it. No, if it's like proper bread. I'm not just eating shit bread. It's not a piece of cardboard with bread drawn on it It's proper bread
Starting point is 01:20:27 But do you know what I mean? I don't just want to eat a shit piece of bread If I'm going to eat bread, it's got to be the best bread You can go to a restaurant and they give you good bread Not that I've been to a restaurant in like 100 years it seems Well yeah, clearly because you think that at restaurants They just serve you bread Yeah, up top, they're like, up top
Starting point is 01:20:43 And they throw you some bread You've never been to a restaurant? I've never been to a bread restaurant. Bread-stronk? The aggressive bread restaurant that you seem to love so much. Hey, idiot, have some bread. Up top. Ow.
Starting point is 01:20:55 You don't like the bread at a restaurant? Bread in your head. Bread in your head, yeah. I'd just be, because we're doing the Bros and Bons. Thank God. It just beat out Space Jam. Thank God. But I've been playing all the video games associated with those.
Starting point is 01:21:09 That's what I've really, a lot of my spare time has been dedicated to that. Yeah, right. And not too fun, but some of them really fun. Would you argue completely worth it? At the end, no. The last one I'm playing, no, not worth it at all. But there's some other good ones in there. And that's starting this week.
Starting point is 01:21:25 GoldenEye is up this week. Okay, I'm excited. We'll talk about both the game and the movie. I had a lot of fun watching those movies. In retrospect, they're not all great or interesting, but there's a lot of good stuff in there. And, you know, I now recognise them more as throwbacks to silly Roger Moore-style bonds than movies that were attempting
Starting point is 01:21:44 to be hard hitting and grim and gritty. Exactly. Goldeneye's still good though. That's right, because now we're 20, 25 years removed. Yes, exactly. That's how it goes these days, isn't it? Is that everything that we've been reading? I bet I've been watching and reading some other stuff, but I couldn't tell you for the life of me what it was. I've started a book, but I'm
Starting point is 01:21:59 not ready to talk about the book. Maybe I'll talk about it on Suggestible. Because you don't know how, you don't know you don't have an opinion on it yet? No, I do. But you're not far enough into it. I like it, but I'll talk about the book. Maybe I'll talk about it on Suggestible. Because you don't know how, you don't know, you don't have an opinion on it yet? No, I do. Or you're not far enough into it? But I just, yeah, I like it, but I'll talk about it more at a different time. Maybe on Suggestible this week.
Starting point is 01:22:12 Who knows? What's next? Oh, you know what I've been watching? I think maybe you put me onto this. You know, there's a YouTube channel called Ahoy, sometimes Retro Ahoy. Yeah, they're great. And he talks about, he's been doing it for years.
Starting point is 01:22:23 It's a guy named Stuart Brown and he does. I think I did i sent you that i think i think you did on twitter dm on one particular thing but he does sort of he does deep dives on a few things yeah uh old school video games like wolfenstein and doom and quake yep and he does like deep dives on guns in in video games and things like that one of the recent ones is explosive barrels explosive barrels like the first instance yeah he sort of does a crazy the first uh instance of explosive barrels and why you know why video games would incorporate barrels that explode like what was the cultural context of that sort of stuff there's one that i really like which is a sort of a deep dive on the origins of polybius oh that which that mythical video game. Which is sort of a legendary arcade game that supposedly gave people seizures
Starting point is 01:23:09 and mental health issues. It was installed by shadowy government agents to evaluate and control human behaviour or something like that. And he sort of does a deep dive and he sort of does some investigative journalism on how it emerged and he talks to people in the video game magazine industry on urban legends and all this sort of stuff. He's not just slapping these things out. He's not just slapping them together like someone would do a podcast.
Starting point is 01:23:33 He's really doing the research. I love the thumbnails as well. They're really well thought out. There's one on Syndicate. I haven't watched that one yet. Remember that game? Yeah, I remember Syndicate, yeah. Shit hot, man.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Oh, yeah. And they made it into a first-person shooter. I remember that, yeah. The Doom one is 50 minutes as well, which I also really enjoy. Definitely worth it, yeah. He's got a seven-minute one on Lemmings. There's a bunch of these I haven't seen yet. Yeah, they're real good.
Starting point is 01:23:53 That's really cool. Okay. He only releases them quite sparsely. Maybe a cup, two, three or four a year, maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And he took a big break, I think, a couple of years ago, but. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Yeah, he's been there real good. They are real good. He knows what he's doing. That's right. He knows what he's yeah. Yeah. And he took a big break, I think, a couple of years ago, but. Yeah. Yeah, he's been there real good. They are real good. He knows what he's doing. That's right. He knows what he's doing. Yeah. He's got some Patreon stuff going, I just checked as well. Oh, good.
Starting point is 01:24:12 That's good. Because, you know, it's hard when you're releasing stuff so far apart. It's hard to finance that, especially because you have to work independently of it. Exactly. And you have to, you know, you have to pose as various identities to get the truth out of polybius myth makers. He beat me to the punch because I was actually going to do that. I was making the exact same video.
Starting point is 01:24:29 So no, I can't, obviously. Are you kidding? I'm deep undercover, Mason. Oh, I see. No, I'm not really. Oh, James. Video games are not my thing. James, you'll say anything.
Starting point is 01:24:38 For a laugh? Is that what you've been trying to do? I'm not sure. What's next? Next is letters, I think. Great. I'll play the letters theme and then we'll know we're in letters. The last one was the letters, oh letters.
Starting point is 01:24:52 We love you, some letters. They're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. Do you think it's time for letters? Yes. That's probably because it is. You do want to reach the show, hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter
Starting point is 01:25:07 or WeeklyPlanetPod at gmail.com. If you want to send a Gmail over to Nicholas Mason, he's right there. He's reading your Gmails. He's loving them. This one's from Dylan Henderson. Just a quick message. Just want to say you guys are bloody great. From Dylan Henderson.
Starting point is 01:25:21 Henderson? The name says Henderson, but then below it says Henderson. Wow. Yeah. He's a real mystery man, this Dylan Henderson. Henderson? The name says Henderson, but then below it says Henderson. Wow. Yeah. He's a real mystery man, this Dylan Henderson. Initially I got this because I'm just like, yeah, maybe just like a nice message from somebody. We really appreciate when people send a nice message, you know,
Starting point is 01:25:36 just to say we like what you're doing. You're not just shouting into the void. We see him and we love him and kiss him. But then I discovered the typo and I'm like, that's good stuff. Let's wreck this guy. Yeah, let's. That's great. Thank you very much. That's really nice to hear. Thank you for sending us hender som nice words. Podcast's over. He went out of his way to say a nice thing and we rinsed him for it. Yeah, that's right. And the Google automated responses say, ha ha, thanks. Thank you. That means a lot. And the Google automated responses say, ha-ha, thanks, thank you, that means a lot, and thank you, exclamation point.
Starting point is 01:26:09 Which one are you going to do? I'll send the middle one. Yeah, cool. Ha-ha, thanks, too aggressive. And then I'll add at the bottom, also we made fun of you on the podcast. Great. This is from James on Twitter. Can you guys do an episode on Netflix's The Midnight Gospel?
Starting point is 01:26:24 I'd like to know what you think about it. Is that the animated one, right? It's the creator of Adventure Time, and it's basically a guy who has – He's sticking his head up a butt. He's sticking his head up a butt to jump into a number of false realities to then interview people in a podcast format while the world that he's in is falling apart. I watched the first one, The Zombie Apocalypse,
Starting point is 01:26:43 and there I was talking about the legalisation of drugs as they're doing this, as all the zombies are tearing apart. He's interviewing the president. And it's a lot. Yeah, right. In a good way, but I'm like, whoa, this is really intense. Visually and just following the conversation is, yeah. But I really enjoyed it, so I do want to go back.
Starting point is 01:27:01 I don't think I could shotgun it all, though. I'd have to spread it out quite a bit to kind of get through it. But, yeah, it's not a kid's show either. It's absolutely not a kid's show. Are you saying that cartoons aren't just for kids now, James? Cartoons are for men and women of all ages. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:16 What do you think of that? It's controversial, but it's cool. I like it. All right. This is from Tom Breck. Tom Breck. One of those electric letters. Hey, James and Mace, I found you guys recently before the world fell apart
Starting point is 01:27:26 and extremely thankful for the podcast as I finished my finals. Congratulations. Finals of what? College, it looks like. So my question for you guys, so now that my college graduation is cancelled, what do I do now? And I have a couple of options down the bottom from Gmail. What do we got?
Starting point is 01:27:43 Yep. And I will look into this and get back to you. Is this us getting back to him now? I think so, but I guess we could do some research. I mean, technically you have graduated. What does he mean, what do I do now? Does he mean like in life? I think it's a deep question, right?
Starting point is 01:27:56 Well, what did he study? Good question, Tom Breck. Good question. I can't, I don't even know where to start with this. I'm going to say anything you damn well want, Tom Breck. Follow your passion. Say if anybody stops you, whether it be the police or someone at the
Starting point is 01:28:10 supermarket. Say, no, you're under arrest. That's exactly right. Cashier at the supermarket. Look, I think they can just send you your graduation certificate, your degree, your diploma. For my business degree i
Starting point is 01:28:25 didn't go because i'm like i don't care and i think i've got it somewhere but i never need it you're right exactly i think there's enough if i need to get a job now they'll be like where's your business experience and i'll be like well i run a business right i mean i did run a business it's all falling apart that's why i'm applying for this job so what i'm saying is my experience is running a business into the ground. Anyway, can you hire me? So what I'm saying is it wouldn't help whether I had – so I have a business degree from the mid-2000s. Go on.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Which I struggled through or failed business. So that's what I'm going in with. So I don't think either are going to help me. That's true. I could be a social media liaison. I could run the account for Denny's. I'd be like – I'd be having bloody – Grand slam breakfast, you'd say. Yeah,, I'd be having banter with other. Grand slam breakfast, you'd say.
Starting point is 01:29:05 Yeah, but I'd be having banter with other brands. Exactly. You'd be like, hey, Wendy's, stop grand slamming my wife, you'd say. Because that's the kind of thing they say now. That's right. Yeah. Exactly. Pretty good stuff.
Starting point is 01:29:16 That's the only food product from Denny's I know of. Yeah, it's pretty good, isn't it? Yeah, Denny's in Australia for like five minutes. Thank God. It was one. It was pitched like a fancy restaurant. Yeah. It was on the waterfront.
Starting point is 01:29:25 Denny's in Melbourne. I've talked about, I had it once when I went over there and it was the worst meal I've ever had. I know. Yeah. Which is why we didn't take the solo Denny's offer, which we've also talked about. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Sorry. That was for my YouTube channel. Oh, I see. Right. I would, I would have run that by you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:43 It was a horrible meal. Maybe it was just, I would tell, I would have taken the money. They could have shipped Denny's to us. I would have, I would have eaten cold Denny's. Yeah, it was a horrible meal. Maybe it was just a bad day. I would have taken the money. They could have shipped the Denny's to us. I would have. I would have eaten cold Denny's. I would have if I hadn't eaten it, to be honest. Like I 100% would have.
Starting point is 01:29:52 I'm like, yeah, it's a restaurant. People know it, whatever. Anyway, Tom Breck, what I'm saying is. Go to Denny's. Yeah, go to Denny's. Say, no, you're under arrest. That's right. And one grand slam, please.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Yum yum yum What would you say though? What do you do when you're finished? Because there is that kind of There's that moment where you're like What's this now? And we're really in the middle of How does one
Starting point is 01:30:14 We need more information Tom Brake Email in again Let us know what your deal is Yeah we'll come back to you If we're here next week Which we might not be But seriously email us back Yeah we'll remember
Starting point is 01:30:22 But Maybe that's the one thing we could do for the other thing we're doing, the big sandwich thing. Yeah. We could do it. Career advice. Or just advice in general. Not good advice, but just be like this is what.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Look at the position we're in currently. Yeah, I mean, do you want this? No, no, no. Yeah, you're under arrest. Oh, no. Look, just I reckon start a hobby right now. If you've got a little time on your hands. Sometimes a hobby becomes the career you're trapped in.
Starting point is 01:30:52 Yeah. You have to do it week to week. Oh, yeah. Even through a pandemic, everybody else gets to take time off except for essential workers. But why am I still working? I'm non-essential. It doesn't even make any sense, Mason.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Okay. Anyways, take up gardening. Yeah, gardening's good. Get a little planter box. Yeah, it doesn't have to be a big garden, does it? Yeah. Do some succulents. Get some succulents, maybe some tomato plants.
Starting point is 01:31:18 Yeah. If you're in America, it's probably a good time for tomato plants. Not a good time right now. Exactly. In Australia, but out there. Some tomatoes, some basil maybe. And if they don right now. Exactly. In Australia, but out there. And then if they- Some tomatoes, some basil maybe. And if they don't grow, you say, now you're under arrest.
Starting point is 01:31:29 That's exactly right. You get little handcuffs and you handcuff them all. That's right. Yeah, you could do a herb garden even. Yeah. You know, having fresh herbs in the garden. Shit hot, man. Straight up.
Starting point is 01:31:41 Yeah. It's really good. Take that basil right off the vine. Om, nom, nom. Here's a question. Take that basil right off the vine. Om, nom, nom. Here's a question from Kyle, hashtag weeklyplanetpod. How often do you use the skip intro feature when streaming? Somebody asked this this week. Not just on Twitter, I saw it.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Yeah. Never. Really? Never skip an intro. It's part of the TV viewing experience. I'll skip an intro all day, every day. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:02 Wow. Which ones will you skip? So everything. Everything. That's amazing. Yep. Wow. I don't think there's one that I won't skip. I. Which ones will you skip? So everything. Everything. That's amazing. Yep. Wow. I don't think there's one that I want to skip.
Starting point is 01:32:07 I never thought you were a skip on every intro kind of guy. No, I'm kidding. I did. You skip all the cut scenes in games, even the ones where you meet a character and they're like, now I've got to give you some essential information. There's no way you'll be able to finish this. You'll just be muddling around for hours if I don't give you this information.
Starting point is 01:32:22 James, I'm talking to you specifically. We made this game with you in mind. And then you're like, now you're under arrest and you skip it. And then it's just you driving around in circles for hours going, this code sucks. I'd rather do that than take advice from anybody, quite frankly. Wow. That's the kind of man that I am.
Starting point is 01:32:38 It does make sense you're an intro skipper. That's true. It's just so many good intros, though. I agree. The Wire season one intro. Never seen The Wire. Great stuff. Brooklyn Nine-Nine intro.
Starting point is 01:32:48 I'll do a short one. I'll do like The Office or something. Yeah, right. But, you know, when you get. I watched like Westworld the first time for the season. I'm like, oh, these people are being 3D printed and that's cool. But then I'm like, I don't need this again. Really?
Starting point is 01:33:03 Really, Mason. I find them so atmospheric. Yeah. It's rare for me to find. Look, there must be one, but I feel like if- I hate when you can't skip them. You watch it on an app where it doesn't give you the option. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:33:16 I'm outraged by that. Yeah. Some are too long. They're like a minute too long. Somebody emailed in and I don't have it here, but they had a similar point. Then why are you talking about it? On Disney+, on The Simpsons, apparently when you skip the intro, it goes to the couch gag.
Starting point is 01:33:32 You can't skip the couch gag because it counts as part of the episode. Well, that's good. Yeah, right? I think that's really good. I think that is good. But you'll miss the Bart writing on the chalkboard to say, does anybody even read this? That's right.
Starting point is 01:33:42 No, they skip it, Bart. Bart Simpson. This is from Kyle. Yes. How often do you skip? I did that. This is from Sam I Am. This is to you, Mason.
Starting point is 01:33:52 Yes. How often do I skip? Never. You can't skip? No. I'm fucking, I'm shit hot on the skipping rope, man. Do you want me to post a video? I used to be a primary school teacher.
Starting point is 01:34:01 I can do backwards crisscross. Did you know that? Wow. Yeah, that's true. I can do a double jumpcross. Did you know that? Wow. Yeah, that's true. I can do a double jump. Could they skip high enough? Could they do the rope high enough that you wouldn't get caught in it? You wouldn't get whacked in the face?
Starting point is 01:34:11 Yeah, definitely. I can do, you know, when they have two ropes, a double dutch thing. I can do that. Yeah, I'm good. Well, because you'd never live it down. If you were a teacher and you got in there and they whacked you in the face and ankles. They're like, come and give it a go. And you're like, okay.
Starting point is 01:34:24 And you run in. And then like Run DMC starts playing. You whapped you in the face and ankles. You're like, come and give it a go. And you're like, okay. And you run in and do it. And then like Run DMC starts playing. You've set it up in the corner. You've got a matching Adidas tracksuit on. You're like, okay, if you insist, I don't know if I'll be any good. Do you think I should do it? Yeah. All right, you film it.
Starting point is 01:34:39 We'll put it out. Okay. I'll do it. I think I've got a rope somewhere. Do you have It's Tricky? We can do that. Okay, we'll do it all right i think i got a rope somewhere do you have do you have it's tricky okay we'll make it happen all right okay all right so sam i am says with more free time has wikipedia brown yes what's treasure planet yet nope i haven't but mason you said you would when we talked i don't have as much free time as I would have hoped for. I've been Marie Kondo- You've been doing a bit of a clean-up, haven't you?
Starting point is 01:35:08 I've been Marie Kondo-ing my house, and I've just been watching a lot of James Bond movies, doing extensive preparation for this podcast, obviously. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. It really chips away at you. But would you watch Treasure Planet? Maybe next week. You won't watch it.
Starting point is 01:35:22 No, I won't watch it this week. Son of a bitch. Absolutely not. I think that's a show unless you've got another letter. Oh, I've got one more letter. You won't watch it. No, I won't watch it this week. Son of a bitch. Absolutely not. I think that's a show unless you've got another letter. Oh, I've got one more letter. This is from Alex Knox. It says, WT asterisk is up with Batman and Robin 1949. I have no idea what that is.
Starting point is 01:35:36 Well, it's, hey, James and Mace, a few days ago I came across the Batman and Robin 1949 series. Like the serial? Yeah, yeah. And since then I've had a couple of questions about it mainly, what the hell was this show? He's got a couple of points here. The first five minutes of the episode that blow my mind, Batman lives in the suburbs.
Starting point is 01:35:52 Cool. Why wouldn't he? There's apparently a constant repeated shot of Alfred looking into the living room. The police coming across a group of guys coming out of a car immediately open fire. Commissioner Gordon uses the bat symbol in the middle of the day. Apparently it's very similar to like a Frank Sinatra Rat Pack style movie.
Starting point is 01:36:13 Like a nonsense that everyone's drunk. Maybe we should watch a few episodes of it. Maybe prior to the Batman coming out. The costume's not great. It's the one with the floppy ears. Yeah, this guy's a good-looking Bruce Wayne though. You see him with the cowl off. He's got the telephone.
Starting point is 01:36:25 He looks the part Yeah Yeah okay Yeah I really I don't know much about this No But uh Oh there's a bit where he's on some kind of He's holding a stick
Starting point is 01:36:32 And it's electrified or something Oh Now what's going on with this Yeah we should cover it at some point How much of this do we have to watch None Perfect Two
Starting point is 01:36:40 One episode Yeah that's a good amount I think How long's a movie serial Probably an hour I think they're like Don don't they run short? Because they run like 15, 20 minutes at a time. Oh, maybe. I actually don't know.
Starting point is 01:36:51 I can actually look that up right now. Please. If you want to bring the show to a close. Thank you, everybody, so much for listening in these trying times. We're glad you all still have working ears. Me too. And working interest in our dumb podcast. Yes.
Starting point is 01:37:04 Let's see. Thank you for telling your friends about it. Mostly via Zoom meetings I would imagine. Or for phone calls. Have a nice chat to your friends. Maybe you're breaking the rules. Don't do it though. Don't do it. Maybe, yeah,
Starting point is 01:37:17 if you're on a Zoom call or something, just mention us. Just let us know. Just let them know. Don't let us know. No, we know. We know. We mostly know that we do this. Statistics, we know. Just let them know. Don't let us know. No, we know. We know. We know. We mostly know that we do this. The statistics, we know. 17.6 minutes each. I took the total run time of 264 minutes divided by 15 chapters.
Starting point is 01:37:33 So that's about seven minutes. Maybe it's real back-end heavy. Could be. Maybe the last couple of episodes are very, very long. Yeah, it's like a three-hour finale. Yeah. It's quite possible. Maybe the first bunch are like TikToks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:46 Thank you, everybody, for subscribing. And thanks for leaving a nice review. James, do you have a nice review? Got a couple right here from Kayden100. Says, the best podcast out there for one sole reason. I hate it when I listen to a podcast and you can hear the smacking and the opening of lips and tongues moving around. It's too much.
Starting point is 01:38:04 These guys have the best and perfect audio quality. No one has ever said that. That's incredible. Thank you so much. Maybe this guy doesn't have working ears. We'll take it. Feels like they're in the room with me or in the car, and I don't want to hear the nasty lip smacking about
Starting point is 01:38:16 the best version of itself. That's the guy who's always here listening directly. Oh, that's why. That's why the audio is so perfect, because he's in the room every time. He's never said anything, has he? Yeah, that's right. Should we get him to leave?
Starting point is 01:38:26 I mean, we'll have to brush his long hair out of his face to finally see his face, obviously. Sure, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Isn't it weird he's always in black and white too? I like him. Yeah. Let's just give him his.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Let's give him his. I mean, he's very quiet most of the time, so I'm glad. I mean, we've never brought it up. I'm glad he's gone to. Yeah. I should also point out that this might be the first episode that I am not editing. Rock Hollings is going to take over for a little bit with the kids,
Starting point is 01:38:51 so he's going to take care of all those lip-smacking noises. But I do take out that stuff. If I can isolate it, I'll take him out. Sometimes I add extra ones in. Is it a thing that you... I don't like it. I'm not a fan. I know some people do like it. Some people like it a lot. I'm not a fan are you do you i know some people do like it
Starting point is 01:39:06 some people like it a lot i'm not a fan i'm largely indifferent to it if i'm focused on it and i think about it it's pointed out then it bothers me okay right yeah to me i'm completely indifferent but there's a subgroup of people it's the smacking of the lips and also eating on air yeah like because but there's even like entire podcasts devoted to let's eat these fun snacks and see how it goes and i think there are some people who are probably would listen to that for five minutes and say, never again. There's a certain dedicated audience.
Starting point is 01:39:28 It'd be like, why aren't there more podcasts like this? Yeah, exactly. Pervs is what I'm saying. Sickos. Got another review from Jarvis D09. I might've merged these together because the title of this is the best
Starting point is 01:39:38 version of itself, which is maybe the thing that I said at the end of the last one. This is, and I don't say this lightly, the greatest podcast James and Nick do. You may be asking yourself, am I referring to the Weekly Planet or Caravan of Garbage? Whichever one you're thinking of, the answer is yes. Oh, that's nice.
Starting point is 01:39:53 So five-star review, you can just do it in an app. It really helps. Please help the show if you can. I'm doing that clap thing on Twitter that people do. Oh, a real clap back. I hate those. Are you doing a clap back to people who have been quite complimentary to you? Thank you for your kind words.
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