The Weekly Planet - 342 Justice League Controversy & Harley Quinn

Episode Date: July 5, 2020

Go to HelloFresh.com/80weeklyplanet and use code 80weeklyplanet for an $80 off including free shipping!This week we kick things off with some pretty severe revelations regarding work on Justice League... 2017. Plus news of Christopher Nolan VS Chairs, a new Sherlock Holmes movie, secret DC movies, news of a new Fallout series and The Boys Season 2, Into The Spider-Verse sequel update, another TMNT reboot plus Alien and Predator move to Marvel. Plus we get right into the Harley Quinn animated series and how it’s great. Thanks for listening.00:00 The Start01:25 Ray Fisher on Working with Joss Whedon for Justice League07:35 Christopher Nolan Doesn't Like Chairs10:30 Sherlock Holmes News15:48 Secret Movies to be Revealed at DC Fandome18:14 Fallout TV Series Revealed25:25 The Boys Season Two Teaser26:30 Into the Spider-Verse Sequel Update27:58 Nickelodeon to Reboot TMNT31:40 Aliens and Predators Move to Marvel34:06 Marvel Netflix's Prop Store Auction39:28 The Harley Quinn Animated Series Review59:52 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:05:10 Letters, Its Time For LettersJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP Itunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:50 Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host Nick Mason. James, I'm here. Also, we're presided over by the spirit of sad Paul Rudd. That's right. Because you've on the TV in this room, you've been watching This Is 40. This Is 40. This Is 40. And you've left it on a still of Paul Rudd looking the saddest he's ever been
Starting point is 00:01:10 and just sitting in a car. If you pause it on most frames in This Is 40, this is what you're going to get. It's a great movie. I know people think it's overly long or whatever. That's probably true. But I think it's one of Apatow's best. Oh, my goodness. What's his worst?
Starting point is 00:01:23 I never loved funny people, but I never went back. So maybe I'll improve on re-watching, yeah. But I think the reason why people don't like Funny People is similar to this as well. I think they've got similar themes and ideas and whatever. But, yeah, it's also a sequel to Knocked Up, which is a great movie also, I think. Yeah, so there you go.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Should we do the show, Mason? Laughing and learning, yes. Laughing and learning. We haven't done much laughing so far, or learning, to be honest. But, yes, let's go on with the show. Let's just do the show and we'll just see what happens. Okay, cool. Great, yeah, yeah, Mason. We're laughing and learning, yes. Laughing and learning. We haven't done much laughing so far, or learning, to be honest. But, yes, let's go on with the show. Let's just have the show. We'll just see what happens. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:01:49 Okay, cool. Great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Terrific. Speaking of laughing. Oh, yes. As you know, there's some bloody accusations flying thick and fast regarding the Justice League movie they're filming of.
Starting point is 00:01:59 I don't know if you saw this, Ray Fisher's comments. Oh, I did see that, yeah. I've got a breakdown of some of the stuff that happened. So as far as I know, when Justice League came out at cinemas, Ray Fisher was, there was some, there's footage of him at the time saying how much he supports the movie and how much it's good. Yep, it was a Comic-Con. His exact words were something like, because he retweeted this and said,
Starting point is 00:02:23 he praised the filmmaker Joss Whedon, who took over from Zack Snyder, who stepped away for personal reasons or may have been fired. Picked a good person to come in and clean up and finish up for him. And then he said underneath that, I'd like to take a moment to forcefully retract every bit of this statement.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Oh, my goodness. So, yeah, there you go. Is he the first star of that movie to say something horrible about it? I think maybe openly, but I think he's definitely the first one to take a shot specifically at the director because nobody else is doing that because obviously Ray Fisher was more of a stage actor before he was cast as Cyborg and Zack Snyder, you know, chose him specifically for this role and they built this character together and only to have it then taken out almost entirely. By the time the movie came out, he has like three lines.
Starting point is 00:03:09 It's embarrassing how little of him is in that movie. And I would be, you would be genuinely upset that he put this performance in and then it was stripped away. But that doesn't seem to be the only reason he's upset because he tweeted this, that Joss Whedon's on-set treatment of the cast and crew of Justice League was gross, abusive, unprofessional, and completely unacceptable. He was enabled in many ways by Geoff Johns and John Berg. Accountability is greater than entertainment.
Starting point is 00:03:34 My goodness. So he's just bloody swinging fists, mate. Just haymakers. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he doesn't say specifically what happened, but there's a few other things that have followed up since then. John Burgess came out with a statement to Variety and said,
Starting point is 00:03:48 it's categorically untrue that we enabled any unprofessional behaviour. And I remember Fisher being upset that we wanted him to say booyah, which is a well-known saying of Cyborg from the animated series. But I think it was just that one thing. I doubt that that would have been. Look, I i had a wonderful time on this but i just want to otherwise i just want to i just want to fully sink joss whedon because he made me say booyah yes that's right yeah because uh yeah it is because you don't have to put in every little reference from everything you know so i don't even remember when he did say that it was at the end
Starting point is 00:04:22 when he separated the mother boxes? I have no idea. I feel like it's a bit, is there a moment where him and Aquaman are flying through the air somehow? Somebody says, does somebody say booyah? Look, I couldn't tell you. I know. I think he says, ride's not over. And he goes, my man.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Well, that is true. They both did their catchphrases in that movie. That's exactly right. Yeah. But to speak more to of this on Fat Man Beyond, and I went back and watched the clip where he talked about this. This is Kevin Smith's podcast. People know him as the director.
Starting point is 00:04:50 He's a comic book writer. So Ray Fisher was on this? No, no, this was him discussing it. And he said that when he visited the set of Solo, he spoke with some VFX artists who worked on Solo, both versions of Solo because a lot of it was redone, and then both versions of Justice League. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:06 And they said that, they didn't name them specifically who it was, but Wade didn't cut down and was very dismissive and negative about Zack's version of the movie that he'd seen and all the special effects team had made together. So apparently he wasn't a huge fan of that particular vision, which kind of is evident in what that movie ended up that's true but i mean you know at the same time you would think a little bit of professional courtesy would be like hey look i really respect his work but it's not going to work right now so
Starting point is 00:05:33 let's change everything but they're like well his stuff sucks yeah it's kind of a bit and again this is all like second third hand information exactly yeah but yeah it does seem a bit that way i mean i know joss whedon also ran that time. Was cheating on his wife a whole bunch. Cheating on his wife for like for decades. It was either had, was just about to happen or had happened where he was, like she wrote that letter talking about his infidelity over the years. So it's very possible that he was having a horrible time at the time of making, I'm not
Starting point is 00:06:00 excusing it. I'm just trying to, we don't know the specifics of what actually happened on set is what i'm saying yeah right i'm just presenting the facts we used to do news but now it's all wild speculation gossip gossip it's very hot yeah hot juicy gossip isn't it but kevin smith also mentioned this thing but you which you mentioned to me personally in our personal life about juicy gossip about the wonder woman boobs thing oh apparently apparently that thing that happened maybe in that in the movie in in the movie justice league yeah but in that movie apparently i'll start the whole thing again the pot the show yeah the whole show from episode all right here we go hang on episode one theme song somebody said but so in justice league there's a scene where obviously
Starting point is 00:06:41 uh the flash falls over and he falls on Wonder Woman's boobs. Yes. It's very funny. I mean, it's worth it for the laugh alone because I just remember just being, the movie was drowned out in the cinema by laughter. Laughter and applause. As it was in Age of Ultron with that exact gag.
Starting point is 00:06:57 But apparently in that scene, Ezra Miller's Flash falls on a Gal Gadot body double. Yes. And apparently she was just told, actual Gal Gadot was not in that scene, was just told to just do a reaction shot of like, hey, react to something, like you're surprised. And then they edited it in.
Starting point is 00:07:14 And what he said of this was that they said, you know, lie down and we'll do the thing. And she was like, I'm not fucking doing that. Right. And that's why. And then he did it anyway using body doubles and trickery. Again, all second-hand, third-hand information. But I always presumed that it was all of this stuff came down
Starting point is 00:07:32 from Warner Brothers to be like change it into something else. Yeah, right. But maybe he had more of a hand in the way this movie ended up than not. But again, we'll never really know at this point. It'll slowly unfold over the next few years. We'll get dri know at this point. It'll slowly unfold over the next few years. We'll get dribs and drabs. One day we're going to get like an unauthorised biography of just this whole time period.
Starting point is 00:07:51 And I will say I'm going to read it. I will buy it maybe. But you'll read the excerpts on Twitter. Exactly, that are on Twitter. Exactly. Speaking of controversy on the sets of DC movies. Wow, here we go. This is a piece of news.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Wow. controversy on the sets of DC movies. Wow, here we go. This is a piece of news. Wow. So the hot news is Christopher Nolan either does or does not allow chairs on set when he makes a movie. And Hathaway said, right? Yeah, on filming The Dark Knight Rises,
Starting point is 00:08:16 she said that apparently Christopher Nolan was like, you're not allowed to have a chair because I guess if you're sitting, you're not working. Well, it's what they used to say at McDonald's when I worked there. If you've got time to lean, you've got time to clean. If you've got time to lean, you've got time to make an Oscar-nominated movie. Yeah, that's right. I think if you've got time to lean, you should be able to lean
Starting point is 00:08:33 just for a little bit, don't you think? I think if you've got time to lean, then later when you have to clean, you'll be more enthusiastic and rested for that clean, you know? Or just always be cleaning. ABC. ABC, ABC. Yes. But then obviously I think other people on other movies have said, of course you get to, yeah, I think, cause I think he said that he chooses not to sit at the little, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:57 There's a thing called a video village and maybe like also his director of photography and some others like choose not to. Yeah. So there's a thing, there's a thing on a movie set, I guess, where there's monitors and you, and there's usually seats around the monitors and all the director and the cinematographer and whatever they, they film a scene and then they watch it back on a monitor,
Starting point is 00:09:13 say what it looks like. Yeah. And apparently he doesn't, he doesn't use a chair there because he doesn't want to just get into a point where he's sitting there and wasting everybody else's time where he just back into the left, back into the left kind of thing. That might be it. It could also be a situation where if you're wearing one of those superhero costumes like your batman suits or your catwoman
Starting point is 00:09:31 outfit you can't sit in that because it will split maybe yeah so yeah i don't i don't i don't know he leaves uh he leaves like a silver dollar like glued to the ground as a trap to see if anybody will to see who's poor. That's exactly right. And if you're poor, you're out. You can't afford a fancy scarf on a Christopher Nolan set, you're out. Yeah, so no, I thought that was, I've been watching a few of those actors on actors things. I watched the Chris Evans, Paul Rudd one, which was quite fun.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And I've started to watch another one. I can't remember which one. Oh, the Patrick Stewart, Henry Cavill one was quite interesting as well. Do they have a connection besides being British? I mean, it's that weird Skype thing, but they flow reasonably well. No, I mean, do they have a historical connection? Oh, well, yeah, because he talks about it up top, how Henry Cavill, I was going to say organized.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Henry Cavill orgasmed for, no, he auditioned. Oh, my God. What a leap, he auditioned. Oh my God. What a leap. He auditioned for a Shakespeare thing in his very, very early days for Patrick Stewart's production company. Oh, I see. It was for a movie or a TV. I couldn't tell you what it was.
Starting point is 00:10:35 And he absolutely botched the audition after learning it perfectly and then rang his agent and said, can I go back? I really want to do it again. So we went back again and Patrick Stewart said to him at the time, it's really brave of you to come back and do this. We really appreciate it and it shows great character and whatever. He didn't get it anyway. It shows great character, but obviously we cannot trust you on the night
Starting point is 00:10:53 because you will mess this up. Yeah. So there you go. I have Henry Cavill news. I love Henry Cavill news. I thought I'd get some news together. Apparently the estate of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle is suing Netflix. For that weird.
Starting point is 00:11:09 For Enola Holmes. Yes. Which is a series that is upcoming based on a series, I think, of young adult novels where Sherlock Holmes has a younger sister who also solves mysteries. Yes. So that's news to me that there is a series of novels based on this with this new character. Was she always, it's Millie Bobby Brown. Yes. So that's news to me that there is a series of novels based on this with this new character.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Was she always – it's Millie Bobby Brown. Yes. Was she always a part of like the lore? Did he always have a sister? She's new. I mean like even in the original books is there like passing mention? I don't think so, no. Yeah, okay, yeah, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:11:37 I said it's a film. I thought – yeah, so it's a film based on a series. Yeah, okay. So why are they suing them? They're suing because – basically because Sherlock Holmes is nice to people. What? So the deal is that my assumption was that all Sherlock Holmes stories were in the public domain, but it turns out they're not.
Starting point is 00:11:59 So the original series of stories are in the public domain. So for people who don't know, Sherlock Holmes stories are basically broken into two eras. Before and after the waterfall? Yes. So Sherlock Holmes was created by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle and very popular, but he kind of got sick of writing the character and wanted to do other things.
Starting point is 00:12:20 So there's this famous story where he battles his nemesis Moriarty. They fall off a waterfall. After having a mind fight? Yeah, they have a mind fight at mind palaces. They have clashing mind palaces. Their mind chandeliers just smash together into little bits. And then they die. And Conan Doyle was like, okay, my character's dead.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I'm going to do some more stuff. And then afterwards people are like, bring back, bring back Sherlock Holmes. Bring him back. We'll give you money. Bring him back. More mind palaces. More mind palaces. bring back Sherlock Holmes. Bring him back. We'll give you money. Bring him back. More mind palaces. More mind palaces. And so eventually he did bring him back.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And it's true if you read the later stories, he's more emotional. Okay. I guess because of. Fell on his head. He fell on his head, presumably. He was underwater for a real long time. Any of those things. But, you know, in the old stories, he's basically like,
Starting point is 00:13:02 I bring Watson along because he's useful sometimes. Yeah. Like they're not friends. He's just someone to bounce off. Yes, exactly. He's just a person to say ideas for and occasionally he can move a thing or punch a guy for him or whatever. And then later stories, he is more, he's clearly like, well,
Starting point is 00:13:19 now I appreciate people more. And I think maybe that's also due to maybe Conan Doyle's own life. Yeah, right. He had some things happen in his own, maybe Conan Doyle's own life. Yeah, right. He had some things happen in his own life. You get old, you soften. Yeah, exactly. So I think those ones are not in the public domain. So if Sherlock Holmes in this series was cold and emotionless,
Starting point is 00:13:38 it would fall under the banner of the old stories. The cutting off point should be if you said it before the waterfall. The waterfall thing. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Because sometimes he's nice. So if Henry Cavill was just constantly damp in this series,
Starting point is 00:13:54 then they could sue him because he'd be like, yep, just got out of that waterfall. It's really something. Maybe the whole movie is just him. There's a lot of like strolls next to a waterfall. You're like, this is it. This is going to happen. He never does it.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Yeah, yeah. That's wild. What a weird thing to sue for. Yeah. This is from CNN. In earlier works now in the public domain, his aloofness and lack of empathy are crucial aspects of his character and must be respected in any adaptation the estate claims.
Starting point is 00:14:21 So he can do it for free if he's cold and aloof. But is that a time thing? the estate claims. So you can do it for free if he's cold and aloof. And I guess they kind of like it that way. But is that a time thing? Because I know public domain stuff, there was a time limit on it. But I know also Disney changed that. Yeah. Look, I don't know if the latest stories will ever be covered by that. But if you look at, say, the Robert Downey Jr. version or the Cumberbatch version, they are kind of just mean pricks.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Yeah. And I guess they've escaped having to pay. Maybe that's why they haven't made that third Sherlock movie because he went over the waterfall. That's true, yeah. But they are talking about making that one at some point. I didn't mind the second one. I didn't like the first one. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Okay. So a series of later stories written after World War I, which had an impact on the author. So that makes more sense. So he's more empathetic after World War I. Witness had an impact on the author. So that makes more sense. So he's more empathetic after World War I. Witnessing horrible atrocities. So apparently they're also suing the author of the books as well. Oh, okay. So it's a whole thing.
Starting point is 00:15:13 It's a whole thing. Good thing they're backed by Netflix now. Yeah, for sure. That's lucky, isn't it? Yeah. Okay. Actually, I'm kind of Sherlock-homed out, but I was looking forward to that movie.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I'm like, oh, I really like this cast. This could be interesting. So there you go. They're all wearing fancy top hats. Sherlock never had a sister and they should sue the pants off them. That is kind of like, because the Cumberbatch version did have a sister.
Starting point is 00:15:34 You did too. You had a crazy sister who could do voices. Even bigger Mind Palace. A Mind Palace like you would not believe. I mean, Sherlock's Mind Palace is like a mind trailer. Like a mind caravan Mind Palace is like a mind trailer, like a mind caravan. It's like a mind RV
Starting point is 00:15:48 compared to her mind. If you look at this cast though, Billy Bobby Brown, Henry Cavill, Sam Claffin, Helena Bonham Carter, that's a, that's an absolute
Starting point is 00:15:56 bloody cracker, mate. This looks like it could be quite good. Yeah. I'm just looking at the director, but I think it'll probably still come out. Yeah, September,
Starting point is 00:16:04 it's supposed to be due out. I don't recognize any the uh the other stuff he's done looks like he's done like british tv stuff oh british tv anyway there you go great uh so back to dc news mason full dc steam ahead all right here we go toot toot uh of course you may know this but the you do know this the dc fan dome event is coming to toot august 22nd and as part of the programming what two of the things that they've put in you said dc fan dome to toot but i think the dc fan dome noise should be like the sound of like like a wet hand going down glass symbolize the dome like a bloody hand like people are trying to get into the dome yeah okay or out yeah maybe out yeah uh so and what they've got in there their program lineup is uh secret movie one secret movie two wow so that's
Starting point is 00:16:54 cool that they've got two revelations so so two my secret identity movies jerry o'connell's back but he wouldn't do it so it's his brother. And he can't fly anymore because those cans are bad for the environment. That's true. What could he use instead? He could spit. He could spit. Yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 00:17:10 No, he can't spit. Not these days. Oh, yeah, he can't spit. Yeah. Why did he think he could spit? It's ridiculous. What an idiot. Do people remember that?
Starting point is 00:17:19 My Secret Identity, which is a TV series. I barely remember it. Yeah, it was a secret. It was a TV series with Jerry O'Connell on sliders and other things fame. Piranha 3D. Stand By Me. Yep. And he had various-
Starting point is 00:17:30 Kangaroo Jack. Yes, he had various powers, including he could float. Yes. And he could also- He was super strong. He could be a smack. But he was super strong, but he was also weightless. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Yeah. Bit of a plot hole there. Yeah, but he would use spray cans to very slowly fly. Oh, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Anyway, good stuff. Great stuff. Anyway, speculation is like, is it whatever the Flash movie is going to be, Aquaman 2,
Starting point is 00:17:54 Man of Steel 2, Green Lantern movie, Supergirl, Cyborg. There's a number of things that they've mentioned they were going to make over the years, which they haven't. So we don't know. Yeah. It's a miracle movie. Yeah, definitely. Oh, New Gods.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Yeah, I mean, that's been announced already. I'm looking forward to New Gods. More New Gods, man. Yeah. So, yeah, there you go. Anything that you'd like to see in particular? Would you like to get some confirmation of the Keaton thing maybe? Yeah, but they wouldn't announce that as a movie though, would they?
Starting point is 00:18:21 They would if they were like Flashpoint and Keaton. Oh, yeah, good point. Oh, imagine that if they were brought out, whoever's going to be the Flash now and then Michael Keaton. People would be very excited. People are just screaming against the glass. Yeah, that'd be cool. But no, we'll see you on August 22nd.
Starting point is 00:18:38 This is from Game Revolution. They've revealed that there is a Fallout series in development based on the Fallout series of games that get progressively worse. i've heard that and then you want nothing about things well that's 76 yeah that's atrocious i think i was it was it internet historian did a really good video on it where he talks about how all these things that they were going to put in it and then they just when they open it up there's just nothing in the world and they expected people to like make your own fun and story 76 a multiplayer it's multiplayer? Yeah, it's the online whatever. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Right, right, right. And it's atrocious. But also it's one of those things where like it's a lot better now, but it's like, well, maybe you should have made it good. Well, that happened with things. Didn't it happen with No Man's Sky? No Man's Sky, yeah. He's actually got the same guy.
Starting point is 00:19:15 I got another interesting video on that where they just took all the money that they made from it and just for a couple of years just kept chipping away at it. And apparently it's really good, which I mean it's kind of disingenuous the way they released that game, but the fact that they took the time to, they could have gone on to something else with the money, but they spent the time to make it better. With their ill-gotten gains, but they made them regular gotten gains.
Starting point is 00:19:37 They also kind of were put in a position where that was slated as this AAA release from Sony, but it was never supposed to be that. Is it a case? And he also lied a lot about what was in it. Well, was never supposed to be that is it a case and he also lied a lot about what was in it well i was gonna say is that is the problem here that fallout 76 was on and a lot of these games are just like we are gonna give you this and this and this maybe they should just i don't know shut the hell up about it yeah and people might just be pleasantly surprised nobody who plays video games is pleasantly surprised no they're certainly not not these days uh yeah did you see also um nba 2K is talking about how games are going to be 70 bucks from now on
Starting point is 00:20:09 and whatever, because they're normally 60 in the US. Oh, $70 American. Yeah. And I don't have like, that's a bargain. We can get them for about that here if you go to the right place. Yeah. About 70 bucks. But if you, I don't have a problem with increasing the price of games.
Starting point is 00:20:22 If you get the game, like the full game with all the stuff. You don't have to pay anything extra. And I don't mind like a little DLC story like Spider-Man or whatever that you pay extra for. But if you give me the full game, yeah, I'd pay you a little bit extra for it, definitely. A finished game. A finished game.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Are you kidding me? I don't want, yeah, you want the disc and you want everything and you don't want to be surprised a couple of years down the line that they're like, we turned the servers off so you can't play this anymore. Well, there's that as well. I know it was with the recent, what was it? Crash Bandicoot Racing Team Race, which I was going to get because apparently it's like a fun little Mario Kart-esque thing.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Yeah, exactly. I'm going to have to get Sonic Racing instead. Apparently it's all right. You're going to have to get Sonic Racing instead. Apparently it's all right. You're going to have to get Mario and Sonic at the Olympics. That's right. But I do, I like Mario Kart, which I still use occasionally, but they put in the microtransactions like a week or two weeks after the game came out.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Wow. And that's just really. That is incredible. Uncool, man. Yeah. Man. Anyway, Fallout. We had Fallout news.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Oh, yeah. No, wait. Did I have another thought about video games? I have so few thoughts about video games. I feel I should. You've got other things on your plate. Yeah. You've got to fend off all the insults from my son as you walk through the house.
Starting point is 00:21:33 That's right. I said I had a head like a frog. But, I mean, that's because you told him to say that I had a head like a frog. But he said it. It's true. He did. But he asked me to remind him to tell you. Oh, earlier, before I got here.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Okay, right. That makes sense. Yeah tell him, to remind him to tell you. Oh, earlier, before I got here. Okay, right. That makes sense. Yeah. I didn't say head like a frog. He said looks like a frog. Okay, right. Well, that's fair, actually. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:52 So anyway, if you think of it, jump back in. I will. But there's a Fallout series in development for Amazon Prime or Prime Video, whatever the Amazon stream is. Whatever the boys is on. Yep. Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy developing it. They are, of course,
Starting point is 00:22:05 behind Westworld. So Fallout was, well, it still is, but like this really beloved. As a concept, it's great. I mean, whether the. People love New Vegas. Whether the last few games have been incredible or bad, just the idea of, you know, it's a world in which there was, it's like an ideal, it was like an idyllic 50s world,
Starting point is 00:22:23 but then it's destroyed by a nuclear holocaust, but everybody had to go into vaults for decades. Yeah, absolutely. They've come out into a ruined 1950s future. I played the one with Liam Neeson, but then I never got out of the vault. I was walking around and being like, can you get this for me? I'm like, I'm not doing it.
Starting point is 00:22:41 You're tall enough to get it off that shelf, Liam Neeson, you monster. Yeah, but I know they're obviously amazing games. My brother, the one you don't like, was really into that. But New Vegas is apparently amazing. But a lot of those guys went on to make, I think it's The Outer Worlds, which is like a much better version of. Or The Outer Worlds. Or The Outer Worlds, but I think it's The Outer Worlds.
Starting point is 00:22:59 We'll get it corrected regardless. So, yeah, that's like a Fallout-esque game without all the garbage that they started to put in them. Yeah, right. So, yeah. Anyway, it seems like a – I like the idea of the world and the aesthetic of the world and all the stuff that goes on. It's kind of like the movie Blast from the Past.
Starting point is 00:23:17 With Brendan Fraser, yes, exactly. But post-apocalyptic and whatever. Did you see the trailer for Foundation? Which one was that? A couple of weeks ago. It's based on an Isaac Asimov series of novels and it's about – I did see this. It's set in sort of like a global empire, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:32 thousands of years in the future. It's on Apple, right? Yeah, it might be the one that gets me to get Apple TV. Just buy a new phone and then you get it for a year. I don't want to get a new phone. It's as easy as that. Just shell out a couple of grand, mate. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Basically, it's like this epic saga. You know, it was a book in the 50s and then there were sequels and then there were prequels up until like the 90s. So it's been like sort of this Isaac Asimov. And you would like it because it's set in the iRobotiverse, set in the same universe. I don't like the iRobot movie. No, you do, though. You love that movie. I didn't really like it. Oh, well, it's a shame. I didn't like it because it's set in the iRobotiverse, set in the same universe. I don't like the iRobot movie. No, you do, though.
Starting point is 00:24:05 You love that movie. I don't really like it. Well, it's a shame. I didn't like it. But anyway, it's basically about a guy and he invents- I like his shoes. Well, that's the shoes that they wear exclusively vintage 2004 Converse or whatever in the foundation.
Starting point is 00:24:17 I don't mind that movie, actually, yeah. But basically it's about- there's this big galactic empire that's been around for 10,000-ish years and there's a scientist who predicts, he builds a new model of mathematics that can predict the future and he basically figures out that, you know, in a few hundred years, the whole empire is going to collapse for 30,000 years and he's got to find a way to stop that.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Okay. But everybody's like, no, you're really, you're messing with our vibe here. Yeah, right, okay. You know, we like things as they are. But is it a good thing if the empire dissolved? Is that like the point? No, it would be like a 30,000-year-old, 30,000-year dark age. Oh, okay, right.
Starting point is 00:24:52 So everything would suck. He's like, well, if we figure this out, the dark age won't last as long. Yeah. It looks good. And we'll all have Converse shoes. Yes, exactly. And figure out what the next hot brand is going to be. That's right.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Yeah. That's pretty good. I saw the trailer for that because it was mostly like a behind the scenes making of element of it as well. Was there? Or was that a different video that I watched? It might be something else you watched. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:10 But it looks like the money that looks like they put into that is amazing. It has some people that I enjoy whose names I could not recall for a billion dollars. Wow. Let me check that out for you right now, Mason. Jared Harris. And Lee Pace is in it. Lee Pace.
Starting point is 00:25:22 That's right. Yeah. So there you go. Jared Harris. Terrence Mann. Jared Harris is one of those famous that guys. Oh, he's such that's right. Yeah, there we go. So there you go. Terrence Mann. Jared Harris is one of those famous that guys. Oh, he's such a that guy. I think maybe he's been in a Sherlock Holmes maybe.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Yeah, he was Moriarty in something. There we go. Or Sherlock Holmes in something. Maybe he's been both. Yeah. If he's British, he's been both. Was he Moriarty in the Robert Downey Jr. ones? I think maybe he was like one of Moriarty's henchmen or something.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Okay. Or like an evil doctor. Okay. Might have been an evil doctor. No, he was Moriarty's henchmen or something. Okay. Or like an evil doctor. Okay. Might have been an evil doctor. No, he was Moriarty. Okay, there you go. There you go. He would look like a right fool.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Speaking of the boys you mentioned earlier, did you see the season two trailer stuff? I did, yeah. Looks good. That's right. So bloody
Starting point is 00:25:56 Back to the Future's out and the guy from Breaking Bad is in. Giancarlo Esposito. Yeah, yeah. I'm looking forward to that. And we saw a first look of Aya Cash of Stormfront. In this, she's very much like, hey, I'm on Instagram, everybody.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Yeah, right. Check this out. I'm on Instagram Live. That's fun. Yeah, it's fun, isn't it? It's fun because it's like real life. Would that be a play on the start of Justice League? Or do you think that's just a coincidence?
Starting point is 00:26:20 Oh, I didn't think about that. Maybe it is. Yeah. I mean, it's always subverting expectations, that show. In a good a good way yeah because she's sort of like holding homelander up to the you know yeah feet to the fire and being like i'm on the team now yeah think about this exactly dumbass yeah yeah it's true we haven't really seen any updates to what the actual boys are up to though what are the boys up to probably probably putting bombs up people's balls i enjoyed uh the laser vision baby just cutting people in half.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Yeah, right? That was a lot. If we have just another one of those. Yeah. They all get one. Yeah. Terrific stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Yeah, I'm looking forward to that coming back. What else have we got? This is from Christopher Miller, who you might know as involved in the Spider-Verse movies. Oh, one half of Lord of the Rings. One half of. The development of the new groundbreaking art techniques being done on the next Spider-Verse movie are already blowing me away. It's going to make the first movie look quaint.
Starting point is 00:27:08 There you go. So that's exciting. I mean, he's not going to say the opposite and be like, this looks way worse. This is subpar. I mean, we tried to make this better than the previous one, but, I mean, we kind of peaked. So it's all kind of downhill, if I'll be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:27:20 It's definitively going to be worse and you're not going to like it as much. But anyway, please go and see it. So anyway, it's not really news, but it's just like it's good to know that it's still happening. Was he, does he, did we see news this week that Clone High is coming back? Did he create Clone High? Yeah, a reboot. Did Lord and Miller create Clone High? I never saw
Starting point is 00:27:35 Clone High, but apparently it's great, right? I saw little bits and snippets of it, so yeah, I'll watch that. There's some community people in Clone High as well, isn't there? Will Forte was in it. He's not from Clone High, but You didn't from Community, man? Yes. I think there that. There's some community people in Clone High as well, isn't there? Will Forte was in it. Okay. He's not from Clone High. You mean from community? Yes. I think there was.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Or maybe even some special guests and things like that. Maybe. Maybe there isn't. Oh, Turk from Scrubs is in it. Yeah, but anyway, it was a little animated series, sort of in the style of your Dexter's Laboratory, kind of like that kind of look. This is why I haven't seen it, really, because it came out in 2002
Starting point is 00:28:04 and it was much harder to steal things off the internet in 2002. Oh, it definitely was, yeah, yeah. And it's a high school where a whole bunch of historical figures have been cloned and now they're teens, like John F. Kennedy and Lincoln and Joan of Arc and Gandhi and stuff like that. Hot stuff. Hot stuff. Terrific.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Very hot these days. Oh, mate, you're not wrong. You're not wrong. Deadline are reporting that Nickelodeon are again rebooting the TMNT, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, for the biggest screen. The biggest screen? Is that what we're calling it now? It's going to be CG animated.
Starting point is 00:28:33 I don't know whether it was always going to be, but I think maybe lockdown might have shifted in another direction. I'm guessing. I don't know that for a fact. But it's going to be Seth Rogen, Evan Goldberg, and James Weaver producing. Okay. And it's also going to be from the director, Jeff Rowe, who worked on Gravity Falls.
Starting point is 00:28:48 So there you go. Well, I like all those names. Yeah, I know, right? But am I tired of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? I'm always up for a new version of that. A new attempt of that, yeah. But I kind of just want to see the guys in suits again, like the first one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Just in the old suits from the 80s, they've just rotted away. Yeah, just rotted away. Just seeing the gears shifting around their heads yeah uh-huh yeah uh or like a like a mix where you do a bit of a cgi blend to make it right i feel like but there was something about that movie that was just so like visceral and and and dangerous but in a way that was like okay for kids i don't know whether i'd show my kid now that movie maybe when he's a couple years older because there's like smoking and people fall into garbage trucks but there was something about that movie that were the two things linked probably you could say as a lesson you definitely could
Starting point is 00:29:33 listen buddy if you smoke cigarettes you will fall into a garbage truck and elias kotius will crush you to death or you'll have a wonderful acting career like sam rockwell so oh it's a really good point it's a really good point yeah yeah yeah but there's it's kind of one of those kids movies and i don't mean to this in a way of like and it's because it's society and it's gone insane like they don't really make kids movies that dark anymore and because this even got criticized at the time for being like that and that's why the tones of tone of those movies shifted so much especially the second one yeah yeah so yeah there's something about that movie that it was independent as well.
Starting point is 00:30:05 So they just were like. Yeah, I mean, I guess it was kind of lighting in a bottle in that way. And it was a thing that was so immediately and immensely popular that they sort of had the juice to just push it through. Yeah. But, yeah, I guess you couldn't do that now. It's pretty great. Society, you know. I know.
Starting point is 00:30:19 That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Just a little update. A lot of updates. In the second season, Jerry O'Connell gained the ability to move through the air without the use of aerosol cans. So he's going to be all right, isn't he? So I guess maybe I didn't see those episodes.
Starting point is 00:30:34 No, I don't think we got those here. I only ever saw the... Oh, no, but it says later in that season, after being struck by the photon beam a second time, photon beam origin, Andrew develops superhuman strength but loses his invulnerability. Well, that's not a good combination because you superhuman strength but loses his invulnerability. Well, that's not a good combination.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Maybe we just got random episodes. Yeah, it seems that way. Because I remember him being like the bullies would hit him and he'd be like, I'm invincible, dickhead. Who was the scientist in that? The scientist was Derek McGrath. I have no idea who that is. Nope, don't know. Okay, I just remember it being like a Doc Brown kind of guy
Starting point is 00:31:05 But that's clearly not even close You'll never guess my secret identity Great show It's Jerry O'Connell Also, did he even wear a mask? I don't think he did I don't think he had a persona So, shut up my secret identity
Starting point is 00:31:20 Also, he was only being called Um, Aerosol Boy Floaty Aerosol Boy Yeah So he was always being called aerosol boy. Floaty aerosol boy. It's close to arsehole boy though, isn't it? I'm not against it. I'm just saying that's probably why they didn't do it. Probably that's why they'd call him that, the kids on the playground. He'd be like, I'm aerosol boy.
Starting point is 00:31:40 And they'd be like, really? Come on. This whole recurring my secret identity thing that we're doing, there's one person out there who's just like, really? Come on. This whole recurring My Secret Identity thing that we're doing, there's one person out there who's just like, this is my jam. They remember exactly how much of it as we do. No, there's two people out there. There's exactly my jam guy and there's the guy who's like, how dare you disrespect my favorite show, My Secret Identity.
Starting point is 00:31:58 None of that was true, what you're saying. Those guys should fight. Yeah. But I back the guy who's more like us. Me too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Last bit of news. This was an IGN exclusive reveal.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Alien Predator and Alien vs. Predator, which kind of goes without saying, has now moved over to Marvel. What if they split them up? Printing comics, I mean. What if they split up Alien and Predator and they weren't allowed to be in the same universe anymore? Like two Jerry O'Connell fans. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Who would you back? Well, the one that was more like me, obviously. Yeah O'Connell fans. Exactly. That's right. Who would you back? Well, the one that was more like me, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, sure, sure. Who'd you pick? Predator. Yeah, cool, cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Lazy gun. It's safe. Because it's like one Predator versus one alien. It's not. No, it's not. You need a bunch of aliens or like a super alien or whatever. You know what I mean? Anyway, so I didn't realize that Dark Horse was still printing them.
Starting point is 00:32:44 I mean, I'd never occurred. I knew they were, but it didn't occur to me that they don't own any of those properties anymore. Yeah, right, right, right. I guess they're still reprinting. I imagine they'll still be able to reprint like the old. Maybe they can. Maybe they can't.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Maybe they can't. Yeah, I don't know. But Dark Horse have done a lot of really good stuff with that property. Even recently there's been some pretty decent alien stuff that they've been putting out. So I don't think the quality is going to drop heading over at Marvel. I think we're just going to get some different ideas. And one of the images that they released was one was just of the alien,
Starting point is 00:33:14 another one was the Predator holding the Iron Man head. It looks like it maybe had a spine in it maybe. Yeah, right. So I think we'll probably eventually get those kind of crossovers, but it might not happen immediately. No, but I mean, you know, we've had years of Batman vs. Predator and Superman vs. Aliens and Green Lantern vs. all of them and all that sort of stuff.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Batman vs. Superman's Aliens? Yeah. Yeah, so that's interesting. I wonder also if eventually we could get that stuff bleeding over into any of the live-action stuff or even some animated stuff. You know what we never got, even though Dark Horse and those licenses, we never, well, we never got Star Wars versus aliens. We never got Die Hard versus aliens.
Starting point is 00:33:50 That would have been good. Because Fox owned them all. You know, I mean, Disney owns them all now. We'll never get it now. Or even like Die Hard versus Terminator, like a Terminator arrives in the building. That'd be pretty good, wouldn't it? Yes. Because that's how I've been reading.
Starting point is 00:34:02 This isn't for what we're reading, so I can talk about it now. That's right now you're allowed I don't want to step on myself yeah yeah but the Terminators versus Transformers I've been watching that oh right
Starting point is 00:34:12 they jump into the timeline and they mess up like the Transformers origin oh yeah it's good it's been two issues wow
Starting point is 00:34:20 I didn't know that existed I've talked about it before okay I wasn't listening it's fine it only recently came back because of they didn't print comics for a while. So, yeah, it's good. There's only been two, but it's been good so far. I only have one more piece of news.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I love news. I mean, it's not so much news. Is it personal news? Because this is not for the show, really. You can tell me after the show, and I'll tell you whether or not it's for the show. Oh, right, right, right, right. No, this is superhero news. Okay, cool. Did you see that there's a company called Prop Store, show all right right right um no this is this is this is superhero news okay cool uh this is did
Starting point is 00:34:46 you see that uh there's a company called prop store and they sell old props from movies and tv shows okay right yeah and they're selling off all the netflix marvel stuff oh my god how much is a thing what kind of thing are you talking about anything okay so like if you wanted there's like three daredevil suits up on there so if you want one of those starting bids like 10 grand i think i think and some people have already bidded on those. You can get Jessica Jones a sandwich costume. Sandwich costume? You know, there's a scene in one episode of Jessica Jones where she's a sandwich mascot.
Starting point is 00:35:12 I don't remember that at all. Before she's a detective and somebody's like, get off the road, you stupid sandwich. Hey, get off the road, you stupid sandwich. Anyway, you can buy that if you want. See, I don't know if this Charlie Cox Daredevil outfit would fit me. Maybe I'll get the Luke Cage hoodie. That would fit me, wouldn't it?
Starting point is 00:35:27 Well, it would fit you and your entire family. Oh, this Daredevil suit looks so good. Yeah, right? You can get that. You can get, like, kingpin suits. You can get, like, all sorts of stuff. Oh, you can get the size. What's her name's size?
Starting point is 00:35:41 Yeah, Electra size, yeah. So much stuff there. I'd want to get the season two Daredevil helmet. There's nothing I would really particularly want, but it's just nice. You can get the robot arm. Yeah, you can get Misty Knight's robot arm. I don't know. You can get Elektra's bloody murdered outfit, the one that she was stabbed in.
Starting point is 00:35:58 That's a lot of blood there. And it comes with the size. Yeah, yeah. But you can tell it's real blood. You can tell it's not real blood because it's red and it's dried. Oh, yeah. Real blood goes brown. That's stupid. Yeah, it is stupid. Oh, tell it's real blood. You can tell it's not real blood because it's red and it's dried. Oh, yeah. Real blood goes brown. That's stupid.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Yeah, it is stupid. Oh, you can get iron fist. Idiots. You can get it, yeah. Jessica Jones' outfit just looks like an outfit that my wife would wear. Yeah. I'm sorry, that's a dig at my wife, by the way, just in case people were wondering. Oh, my God, you get this guy.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Remember this outfit? You fought Luke Cage. You look like a G.I. Joe villain. Oh, yeah, yeah you get this guy. Remember this outfit? You fought Luke Cage. You look like a G.I. Joe villain. Oh, yeah, yeah, like Copperhead. Copperhead, that's right. Or the other guy, Diamondback. Yeah, Diamondback. The final battle outfit, which looked just the worst, honestly.
Starting point is 00:36:36 And I know it was comic book accurate to some degree, but it looked so bad. Bad. Just do something else. Do anything else. Yeah, do anything else. You can get, if you want, you can buy Luke Cage's. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:36:48 No, he's gained his power. You can get the barbershop chairs and stuff. You can also get like the power generation chamber that he had his origin in. The whole thing. It's on there. Yeah, you can buy it. They're really not making any more of this stuff, are they?
Starting point is 00:37:00 Well, they would never need those again. No, I guess they wouldn't. And also like, as I understand it, even if they were to do another season of Daredevil or whatever, they'd build all new suits anyway. Yeah. Because they all get shop-worn and then scraped on the ground and stuff. Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah, but that's what I want.
Starting point is 00:37:19 I want the scraped-on-the-ground suit. I reckon me and Charlie Cox are the exact same size. I reckon he could fit into his Daredevil suit. You just said you couldn't fit into his Daredevil suit. I was just joking. I think we're exactly the ground suit. I reckon me and Charlie Cox are like the exact same size. I reckon he could fit into his Daredevil suit. You just said you couldn't fit into his Daredevil suit. I was just joking. I think we're exactly the same size. We're definitely not. But what if we were?
Starting point is 00:37:31 You might be. I don't know. I don't think he's that tall. Yeah, but he's built bigger than me, I'd imagine. Let me check. We can put padding in the suit. You know those little shoulder pads? We just put them everywhere in the suit.
Starting point is 00:37:42 We sew them all in. He's 178, so he might be a couple of centimetres. What am I? I don't know. I can't remember. I might be about that. Your regular normal person height. I don't know if I am.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I think I'm bigger than most, don't you think? No. I'm 6'4". Everyone knows that. It's not true. It's not true. It's not true. All right.
Starting point is 00:38:03 As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors, like when our estrogen levels drop during menopause, causing the risk of heart disease to go up. Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. It's good to be talking about HelloFresh again, Mason. They're back. I'm very excited about it.resh again, Mason. They're back.
Starting point is 00:38:45 I'm very excited about it. Welcome back, Fresh. Welcome back, Fresh. Yes. Because HelloFresh offers so many recipes to choose from each week to help you break out of your recipe rut. That's a great idea. And it's great for a quarantine.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Do you know what I mean? You want something new. You want something hot and fresh. You want to try some new recipes. This is the way to do it. You don't want to make it. Oftentimes it's like, well, I'll make a huge thing and then I'll eat it every day for a week.
Starting point is 00:39:08 That combined with staying indoors, you go mad. You'll die. HelloFresh, you can get a bunch of them. Get the correct amount. That's right. For every meal. You can have a new one every night. It's funny you should mention that because, yes, they do do pre-proportioned ingredients,
Starting point is 00:39:19 which means there's less prep and less food waste. Otherwise, you've got too much dill or whatever. You know what I mean? Exactly. You don't have too much dill or whatever. You know what I mean? Exactly. You don't have too much dill. Yeah. There's also something for everybody, including low-calorie, vegetarian, family-friendly recipes every week.
Starting point is 00:39:33 And also, if you do want to change your delivery days or food preferences or skip a week, you can do that whenever you want. You're not locked in. Perfecto? Perfecto. Speaking of perfecto, Mason, how does prosciutto roasted chicken sound to you with creamy parsnip mash and thyme mushroom sauce? That sounds perfecto. Well, I've already had it, and let me tell you, it was perfecto. Did you save some for me? I didn't, Mason. I ate it. I guess it's perfectly proportioned. That's right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:56 But that's okay. I can get and make my own. That's exactly it. And here's the thing, though. If people listening to this are interested, they can actually go to HelloFresh.com 80, as in 8-0, Weekly Planet, and use code 80WEEKLYPLANET to get a total of $80 off. That includes free shipping on your first box. Additional restrictions do apply, but please visit HelloFresh.com for more details. That's HelloFresh.com slash 80WEEplanet and use code 80weeklyplanet. That's a tremendous amount of meals. $80. Yeah, $80.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Yeah. Incredible. On with the show. Incredible though. Very much incredible. Incredible. It's always fun to stumble upon a show where you're like, this is pretty good.
Starting point is 00:40:38 I mean, people talked about it being pretty good. Then you're watching and you're like, hey, that was pretty good. That is fun. It's even more fun, you know, people just saying, watch the show. You must watch the show. Yes, that's right. It's good. Everyone is telling you it pretty good. Then you're watching and you're like, hey, that was pretty good. That is fun. It's even more fun, you know, people just saying, watch the show. You must watch the show. Yes, that's right. It's good. Everyone is telling you it's good.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Exactly. You're less being stumbled upon the show and more being shoved face first into the show. Right into it, yeah. And initially you're like, but I don't, this makes me hate the idea of it, the very idea of it. Well, before this we were just talking about Hamilton. I'm like, you're going to watch Hamilton and you're like,
Starting point is 00:41:04 I'm sick of it already. I'm sick of hearing about it. You've had a goddamn. It's up to here, even though it's good. I've seen it live, Mason. Well, then me seeing it on the idiot box, mate, this experience is not going to be the same, is it? That may not be the case.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Was there an intermission when you went? Yes. Did you get snacks? No, I don't normally do that. I just kind of stand around and go on my phone. I was on my own because I was in L.A. by myself. And then I went back in and I finished the show while the guy next to me intermittently got on his phone.
Starting point is 00:41:39 And I'm like, come on, this isn't. During the performance. Yeah, I'm like, this isn't the sequel to Phantom of the Opera, Love Never Dies. This is serious theatre. That's right. You're making a mockery. But I still loved it.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Anyway, we're not talking about that because we're going to talk about the Harley Quinn animated TV series. It's just wrapped up its second season. And both of us just literally jumped on board to it. We just binge-watched the whole thing, yeah. Yeah. It's amazing. It's a great show.
Starting point is 00:42:01 I heard it was good. I'd seen clips. I wasn't really sure how I was going to get it at some point. I ended up doing a VPN and a bunch of other stuff to get it. And shotgunning it, for me, it was a really nice way to get through it. It didn't feel like a dragged, like 22-minute episodes. There's 26 in total. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:42:18 Something like that. Yeah. I think it's one of those things where if you love the Batman animated series from the 90s. Yes. Well, first of all, with the same creators, because Paul Deedy and Bruce Timm have created this as well as that. I feel like it's one of those, it's a great throwback to that as well
Starting point is 00:42:33 as being its own thing. It feels like when Hanna-Barbera decided to do an evolution of all their old shows like Space Ghost. Yes. Harvey Birdman and all that sort of stuff. And they've brought it into the modern day and they've decided to sort of revel in all the tropes and make fun of them, but also it's kind of a nice homage.
Starting point is 00:42:52 But also it's based on a series that was good initially as opposed to the Hanna-Barbera stuff, which sucked initially. The only way to go is up. It has its fans. Yeah, no fans of ours. I don't know if that's true. That's exactly the comparison I've written here. It does have that Harvey Birdman kind of vibes for the seven people.
Starting point is 00:43:13 I know, I'm mirroring your screen, so I know exactly what you're talking about. Oh, that's how you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I know you could easily go like, oh, this is DC but Rick and Morty. Oh, this is if Deadpool was Harley Quinn or whatever. But it doesn't, to me, Harvey Birdman is like the most kind of apt comparison to me. And I also think the voice cast, because I recognise kind of voices in and out like through it.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And there's definitely, you know, there are changes. Yes. And I imagine a lot of the pushback against this series, if there was any when it started, is that we don't have the original Harley Quinn. No. We don't have the original Batman or Joker. No. Though Diedrich Bader has voiced him before.
Starting point is 00:43:50 That's true, yeah. So Kaley Cuoco as Harley Quinn. Yes. I like that she hasn't just gone, I'll just do the 90s voice, which I feel like a lot of the time Margot Robbie feels like it's an impersonation of that. It's its own thing.
Starting point is 00:44:04 I feel like there's kind of more subtlety to the character that she's put in. And the accent doesn't necessarily have to be a part of the character. No, absolutely not. Although I think it did throw me initially. Okay. Yeah. Just being different. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Yeah, fair enough. I don't like it. Anything different. I also like that she wouldn't really have to do the show because she'd be a multi-billionaire. They were getting $400 million a minute to do Big Bang towards the end of that series. So I like it when they can come on board and do this because it means it's something that they want to do and want to be involved in.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Exactly. You sort of know that it's often a mark of quality. Like when you think about Breaking Bad, Bryan Cranston had done many years of Malcolm in the Middle. Some Seinfeld. Exactly. Barring, you know. He was some of the monsters on Power Rangers.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Oh, that's true. He was the original. Was he something to do with Zordon? He was Zordon in the movie. He was Zordon in the movie, but he was in the original show as well. Some of the voices. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:56 That's why he came back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So barring like multiple divorces or a drug problem, he would never have to go back to TV unless he wanted to. And I guess that's the same case here. Yeah, exactly. But the voice cast is incredible. We've got two Seinfeld alums, speaking of Seinfeld.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Yes, we do, yeah. Jason Alexander is in it as Harley's landlord. Yep. Cyborgman. Yes, which I didn't get until I finished watching the show. Wow. He's an old man who's also a cyborg. I only got it just now.
Starting point is 00:45:23 No, I got it immediately because it was really obvious. Mason. Lake Bell, Poison Ivy. Alan Tudyk I really like as the Joker. Well, it's big shoes to fill, isn't it? It absolutely is, but it's also, it's not a Mark Hamill impression, but it just fits perfectly in this world. And he does a few voices in it as well.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Tony Hale. I really like Diedrich Bader's Batman, and what I like about Batman in this is even though it's silly and they kind of poke fun at him and all that, he's still Batman. He's 100% Batman. He's not incompetent. He's not a fool. They make fun of him, but he's not a complete dumbass. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:02 And the same with the Justice League. Superman is Superman. Wonder Woman is Wonder Woman, yeah. Ron Funches is... King Shark. King Shark, yeah, who I think is really great. Also, a lot I like about King Shark and Clayface, they're two of the characters that have actually changed quite a lot, but I think it works as they make Clayface this thespian.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Changes have been made to... What they seem to have done is sort of drawn various influences from various versions of a bunch of characters like yes there's elements of this you know that are speaking of superman there's you know there's references to the phantom zone yes they're clearly kind of christopher reeve movie references and there's you know there's some very uh there's some solid references from like the 1960s Batman TV series and all that sort of stuff. And, yeah, so Clayface is sort of he is the original Clayface. It's never said explicitly who was just an actor,
Starting point is 00:46:55 a failed actor who turned to murder. Yeah. But now he has all the Clayface powers. But this one is like super flamboyant and just. He's always trying out a new character. Yes, exactly. Yeah, when he transforms into another person, it's not just for, he goes trying out a new character. Yes, exactly. When he transforms into another person, it's not just for... He goes method with it.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Yeah. When he becomes like a sorority girl, he gets obsessed with texting and boys. Yeah, absolutely, yeah. And then you get like Aquaman, who's kind of like Thor-ish, which is what he often is in the comics as well, is this like...
Starting point is 00:47:23 Iron Mighty kind of... Yes like but he's mighty kind of yeah but he's not again it this the show does skip the talking to fish jokes for the most part there's a few in there because what do you say exactly but it's also like they also portray him as a competent aquaman yeah he's not jason momoa but he is also you know he can he can walk into a meeting of the legion of doom and just hand their asses to him because he's super powerful. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I also enjoy, I think probably one of my favourite characters.
Starting point is 00:47:51 I'm looking at these and I'm like, I like all of these. There's no one here that I don't like, but the utterly broken Jim Gordon and having Christopher Maloney voice him is perfect. I don't even think I realised. Because he's utterly broken from so many seasons on Law and Order SVU. But if you look at like Happy, a show that he was on where he plays like a burnt out detective or failed detective, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Yeah. It's just that vibe is perfect for like a Jim Gordon who's just desperate to be loved and just an alcoholic and his marriage is failing and he wants to be a hero, but everyone hates him. And it's just, yeah, it's really great. And on the villain side, you have James Adomian as bane yes who is sort of oh he's incredible speaking of they've taken elements from from everything yeah he's got the look of the batman and robin bane yes and he's got the tom hardy voice yes and but and the pit i guess the pit is more
Starting point is 00:48:41 and yeah but there's you know but he's sort of – they've given him a personality to match the voice. Yes. Which is he's kind of – People don't take him seriously. People don't take him seriously. He wants to be like a big league villain. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:57 But most people just see him as a sidekick who's been – like he started out as a big name but he's sort of been beaten down by Batman so many times that he's just a sidekick. He drives a Volvo. He's just sent out for people's coffee orders and stuff like that. Yeah, absolutely. And putting Jim Rash in as the Riddler is a great idea and how his story progression is mostly that he gets more jacked
Starting point is 00:49:18 as the series progresses for some reason. I think it's a really fun idea. And Lex Luthor as well, speaking of Breaking Bad, Giancarlo Esposito is great. Oh, yeah. It's like that cool, calm, calculated Lex Luthor. And that Lex Luthor is basically the exact same Lex Luthor as the animated Superman Adventures of the Justice League.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Absolutely, yeah. They've just gone, that was a good one, just put him in there. Just essentially do that again, yeah. So it is, for those who haven't seen it, we'll do minor spoilers. We're not going to spoil everything because I'm sure there's a lot of people that haven't seen this, but it really captures all the core elements of every character really well. It starts off of kind of this low-key Gotham kind of story
Starting point is 00:49:57 and then it slowly expands as it goes and you get weirder and bigger characters and it goes interdimensional and all these kinds of things start happening as it progresses so it just it just ramps up it gets more and more insane which you kind of get get hints at in the batman animated series but it didn't kind of branch out until it was the superman series and the justice league and they started yeah right on merging the worlds together more yeah it's like a super friends episode if they were just allowed to do anything. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Like if they were allowed to just, you know, just drop as many F-bombs as you want. Just put in as much blood as you want. It's funny, though, because it doesn't feel like it's trying to be crass, like, ooh, this is so in your face. Although it often is. Yes. Like don't show your kids this.
Starting point is 00:50:41 No, definitely not. I mean, you specifically, James. Do not show your children this. Do not show your four-year-old and your newborn baby. There is a lot of blood and violence and swearing. But yeah, you'd almost, by the look of it, and also a lot of the show, it plays also like a really good kid's show as well.
Starting point is 00:50:57 And you also, you learn quite quickly that no one is safe in this universe because it's a different continuity to everything else and sort of your faves may not survive it almost could be a sequel to the animated series almost it doesn't like it doesn't line up but yeah it kind of does i mean they mentioned there are there are references to things that happened 30 years ago yeah definitely yeah that works out yeah no there are series start i had it i had an exact example of why it doesn't work oh i can't remember why. Well, let's keep your negativity out of this, shall we? Yeah, but it definitely is its own thing.
Starting point is 00:51:29 But it's interesting you said about what it does to a bunch of characters because it kills people that you wouldn't expect, for example. There's some major villains, or spoil one because the clip has been revealed, that the Joker just fries Scarecrow, just melts him dead. And there's a few others that get seriously maimed or injured or killed. Cockney Scarecrow, just melts him dead. Yeah, uh-huh. And there's a few others that get like seriously maimed or injured or killed. Cockney Scarecrow also. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Yeah, yeah. And there's also what I also really loved about it is that there's the introduction of, this is also a show that I'm sure a bunch of people are on board and they're like, we know it's great, we know. Yeah, I mean, that's all exactly. I mean, this has been going for, as we said, two seasons. And what we've been doing over in Australia is just waiting
Starting point is 00:52:07 for it to appear on anything. Yeah. But it hasn't. Yeah. So, yeah, we were forced to take matters into our own hands. That's right. And we don't regret it. And travel to America.
Starting point is 00:52:16 We took a 24-hour flight. We went to America. That's right. We made it happen. What I also really enjoyed is when it would introduce characters like queen of fables and dr trap yes i i haven't heard of these characters i wasn't reading comics when these characters were kind of came through and they disappeared yeah right so every time a character would appear that i didn't know which didn't happen that often mason because i'm a
Starting point is 00:52:41 massive real fan big true fan of comic but. This is the show for you. Yeah. But I'm like, Queen of Fables, Google it. Yeah, it's a character that existed that they bring back. Same with, like, Dr. Trap. Is this like a knockoff Riddler they invented for the show? No. He's real. He's a guy with a real metal jaw.
Starting point is 00:52:58 I think that's great that the lore that they dig into from history, I think, is really, really interesting. And then you'll just get a character like Kite Man, the lore that they dig into from history, I think is, is really, really interesting. And, and then, and then you'll just get a character like Kite Man, who has always been a joke is suddenly a major player in this series for some reason. Yeah. Right. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Yeah. Which I think is really great. Also, I love it. Because, again, because Harley has had to put together a, she,
Starting point is 00:53:21 you know, this is, this is the, it's a story as old as time. By that I mean since the animated series that Harley is, the thrust of this series is Harley's broken up with the Joker for good this time. Yeah. And she don't get no respect.
Starting point is 00:53:35 No. She's Rodney Dangerfielding it out there and she's got to get together a crew, a new crew to become a real supervillain and not as people think of her as a sidekick. Yeah. So she's got, yeah, it's Poison Ivy and Clayface, as mentioned, King Shark, Dr. Psycho. Dr. Psycho, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Who's the voice of that guy? That's Tony Hale. Okay, right, yeah. And there is also references to like, because I saw the controversy before the Snyder Cut was being released, one of them was wearing a Release the Snyder Cut t-shirt in the episode. And people were like, was this kind of poking fun at DC fans? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:54:08 I think it was just like a, like a fun little nod. Do you mean the episode where it's bookended by the two terrible DC fans? Yes. I think that is poking fun at DC fans. But I think it pokes fun at everybody though. I don't think it's like, you know, because it does things that a normal cartoon wouldn't like it's, it's trying, like it does some things does some things that some people would also consider offensive
Starting point is 00:54:28 in other ways. Do you know what I mean? Yes, that's true. Yeah. Also, what's great about that episode is it's completely Batman-centric, which is cool, you know, because you can explore other stories in it. And just even the idea that you can see, like, Themyscira, you can see Apocalypse and this version of Darkseid and what's he like.
Starting point is 00:54:45 And it's like, oh, it's still Darkseid. He's still a lunatic. Yeah. I think my favourite episode, I think if you're looking for one to jump off or onto. The first episode? Yeah, sure. The first episode is good, but where it really kind of kicked
Starting point is 00:54:59 into gear for me was the one where Harley was looking to get a new nemesis and Robin shows up. And it's not Dick Grayson Robin who's not in this series, I believe, at all. It's Damian Wayne who keeps coming in and trying to be the foil for Harley Quinn. And I think that's such a fun idea that he's like, you're my nemesis, and she's like, I don't want to fight a little kid. I don't want to be your nemesis. And it's Jacob Tremblay as well is Robin.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Who's that? Which is really good. He's in Good Boys. He's in... Oh, I know the show, but I haven't seen it. No, it's a movie, so you don't know it. Well, then I don't know it then. I've heard those two words together then.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Yeah. Does that make you happy? You've seen him in things, yeah. Oh, right. Yeah. The other part of this movie... The other part of this series... Oh, the other movie.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Look, I haven't watched it, all right? Yeah, that's what I figured. The other big part of this series, which only develops more in the second series, is the relationship between Poison Ivy and Harley. That's something that they've explored more in the comics, that they end up in a relationship together. And initially it just looks like they're going to be friends, but I think it does a really good idea of naturally, like,
Starting point is 00:56:03 progressing that relationship throughout the series. You know, and I'm sure there'd be people like it's a forced agenda, et cetera, and whatever. But I didn't feel like that to me at all. For one, there is history for it in the comics and I think it's a really great. But I would say that's also a forced agenda. Sure. Yeah. There's no, there's nothing you.
Starting point is 00:56:21 But there are people of different sexualities is my point. Well, that sounds like a forced agenda to me yeah but i don't know i think what i liked about that relationship was it started as like a friendship from a genuine place yeah right and they established that and i'm like oh okay so they're going in a different direction they're not going to do the same thing that they've been doing in a lot of versions of the comics but then when it kind of evolved into that i thought that was really fun. And, you know, and then, you know, they spent some time together on Themyscira
Starting point is 00:56:47 in one particular episode and Themyscira has been changed to this bizarre, like resort, like hotel spa situation, which was really fun. I think about it, I guess it is directly poking fun at release the Snyder Cut, isn't it? Yeah, it really is, yeah. I don't know, but it didn't feel, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:57:04 people didn't get too torn up about that, did they? Not that I, but I don't care about those people. I mean, maybe, but I wasn't paying attention, so. I just think people get offended by everything these days, you know what I mean, Mason? That's true. And it's SJWs and all of those things and things have gone, fully run mad.
Starting point is 00:57:22 That's true. My favourite moment in the series is probably the crew show up at Mr Freeze's hideout and he emerges from the shadows and Clayface screams out, Lady Gaga! That's who he thinks it is. That's a great Mr Freeze episode. Yeah. Introduce Nora as like a proper character as well.
Starting point is 00:57:41 That's true, yeah. Which is really fun, yeah. All the villains are handled really well, I feel, in this, except Killer Croc, which doesn't get enough play. I'm just kidding. I don't really remember or care how my team plays into the story. But it does end on a bit of a cliffhanger because there's like a the end question mark.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Yeah. It seems like we are getting a season three though, so this is going to be something I'm going to try and watch weekly next time it rolls around. Because this was a really genuinely pleasant surprise and to me one of the best things that DC have done in recent memory, like across everything. Everything, yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Like a lot of their movies I really like and some of them not so much and the same with the animated stuff, but this is definitely well up there. And it's interesting that they haven't got this team together to do any of the live action movie stuff yet. You know? Well, I guess that's true. But, I mean, you know, maybe there's still that TV stigma. I mean, surely not.
Starting point is 00:58:31 But they've created, like, some of the best Batman stuff and some of the best characters or recreated them. Maybe they don't want to do it. Maybe they don't, yeah. That's often a stumbling block. They'll be like, hey, do you want to do whatever you want on television or do you want to do a movie and everyone in the world hates you briefly or forever?
Starting point is 00:58:50 Or forever, yeah. But, look, I understand why they'd get Geoff Johns and I also understand why he'd do it. But if you look at a lot of the things in Batman in particular that have stuck around, a lot of it comes from that series. And I know that series also is in a way a spinoff of the Burton movie. It's not a spinoff, but you know what I mean? It branches off that.
Starting point is 00:59:09 But really, if you look at what they've done to a lot of those characters, it's worked its way into the movies and into all of the media. Harley Quinn wasn't a character before that series. Mr. Freeze was just a guy with a freeze gun, you know? And that's the reason he was in batman and robin i mean they fucked the reason for the freezing i mean they fucked it up but you know these guys are the reason for the freezing but also the reason for a lot of these a lot of particular changes that have been made to these characters i don't know but yeah maybe you're right maybe
Starting point is 00:59:39 i don't want to do it maybe there's more freedom in doing this where you can you can take a universe and you can melt scarecrow's face and it doesn't matter you know so there you go anyways if you haven't seen it you should totally watch it you should give it a chance how many episodes should they give it a chance all the episodes but what if what if they're not in it but but i mean you know i feel like the standard rule is if you're not feeling it by like episode four yeah you probably probably give up but she's you know by episode four she's gotten the bloody crew together yep dr psycho has shamed himself by calling wonder woman the c-bomb on television that's right yeah the universe is it's set in stone at that point it's set in motion would probably be a better way to put it yeah and if uh and if you have seen it we should watch it again then shouldn't you
Starting point is 01:00:18 yeah are you gonna watch it again yeah then there you go wow be like mason watch it again i'm not gonna watch it again i'm gonna watch other things there you go. Wow. Be like Mason. Watch it again. I'm not going to watch it again. I'm going to watch other things. Interesting. Yeah, but yeah, I can't wait for the next season. It was really great to be able to go, oh, there's 26 episodes of this. Awesome. So yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 01:00:36 That's this show. Watch it if you have, haven't. Oh, also there's the Penguin Bar Mitzvah episode. Yes. It's in the first three as well. Yeah, yeah. There you go. All right.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Are we up to the next segment of the show? I think we are. Do you know what it is, though? Is it what we're reading? Yeah. What are we going to read? Yeah. Spoiler alert.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Probably not a lot because I just watched 26 episodes of Harley Quinn. But, you know. But, you know, we'll think of something. We'll think of something, yeah. I'm doing a thing. I'm doing a thing. You didn't hear nothing. Oh, I heard it. I'm doing the thing. You didn't hear nothing.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Oh, I heard it. Oh, I heard it. What are we Westworlding today, Mason? I don't know. I've been watching Harley Quinn all week. Of course you have, yeah. So I don't know. I don't have a... It's what are we reading, I should specify.
Starting point is 01:01:18 It's where we talk about what we're reading or watching or going to watch or reading. Yeah, I mean, I've got my book on the go. I have been watching that show, Marcella, which is one of those dark, sad, Icelandic style, I was going to say comedies, but murder mystery kind of shows. And you watched Hamilton? No. You're going to watch Hamilton?
Starting point is 01:01:34 I'm not going to watch Hamilton. He's watching Hamilton. You should watch Hamilton. All right, I'll watch Hamilton. You should watch Hamilton. Do you have somebody you could watch it with who loves musicals other than me? No.
Starting point is 01:01:44 No. You don't know people in your life who like musicals. Why would I watch it with them? Because it's supposed to be like a crowd experience. Oh, okay, right. Get some white wines. Get some white wines. White wines.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Look, I could watch Hamilton or I could watch Warrior Nun, I guess. Yeah, what's the deal with that? I don't know. Let's look it up. Yeah, I mean, I know. Oh, it's, oh, God, no. Autoplaying something? I don't want to autoplay it, God.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Warrior Nun. Okay, I'm back. After waking up in a I don't want to auto-play it, God. Warrior nun. Okay, I'm back. After waking up in a morgue, an orphan teen discovers she now possesses superpowers as the chosen halo bearer for a secret sect of demon-hunting nuns. Well, that does sound very Netflix, doesn't it? 85% Rotten Tomatoes? Okay. That's not bad. Again, not indicative of Etcetera and so forth.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Oh, it's based on a comic book. Oh. From 1994. What about Eurovision? Oh, God, why are you doing this phone? I hate you. Maybe you should get a new Apple phone. I don't want to do that.
Starting point is 01:02:30 I don't want to. So, but I started Eurovision. It was all right. I heard it's one of those things where I think I listened to a Mark Kermode review who I really like. He said something like, if you like Eurovision, you're going to really be like, this kind of nails it without making fun of it. Okay. You know, it's kind of, because Eurovision, it is going to really be like, this kind of nails it without making fun of it.
Starting point is 01:02:45 Okay. You know, it's kind of, because Eurovision, it is, even people who love it, like it's absurd, you know what I mean? Yeah. Which is why they love it. I've heard, I think most of the reviews I said were like, Will Ferrell's pretty good, but everything besides Will Ferrell is better. I heard Dan-
Starting point is 01:03:00 Dan Stevens is in it. Dan Stevens is good in it. From Legion. Yeah, I think it's one of those things where people are responding to it better than the critics are, I believe. Right, okay, yeah, yeah. But, again, I haven't finished it, so I don't know. But from what I saw of it, it wasn't bad.
Starting point is 01:03:13 And Pierce Brosnan plays his dad. Oh, hello. Whatever. All right, I'm intrigued now. All right, I'm probably going to watch that. Yeah, you're good to go. Yeah, after you finish Hamilton. I'm going to watch that before Hamilton.
Starting point is 01:03:21 But Hamilton's only two hours and 40 minutes plus intermission. Seems long. It's a musical. They don't trim it for TV? Why would you trim it for musical? Listen to yourself. They trim a couple of F-bombs apparently. Wow.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Yeah. So there you go. That's bloody Disney for you, isn't it? Yes, that's what they do. Yep. They trim the bit where you see Hamilton's butt. What? Yeah, they put hair on it. Alexander Hamill butt. Yep. They trim the bit where you see Hamilton's butt. What? Yeah, they put hair on it.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Alexander Hamill butt. What are you going to watch? I got a few things in particular. I mentioned that Things Transformers. I shouldn't have mentioned it because now what am I doing? Idiots. Harlequin, obviously. I am going to watch Hamilton.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Suggestibles back as well. So if people want to get into that, that's back this week and next week there's an episode. But that's by the podcast I do, Mason. I know you haven't heard it, but that's the one. Is it mostly you and your wife shouting at each other? Yes. Because I was on it for five minutes once and that was all it was.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Yeah, it's still that. Couldn't get a bloody word in any way as we just shouted at each other. Is that because you're not allowed to shout in the house? We shout in each other. Is that because you're not allowed to shout in the house? We shout in the house. Now, look, contrary to popular belief from our output, we do play it up a bit. Like we don't have like massive blues that often. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 01:04:36 We're bloody having a hash in and out, mate. Does he sound like Bluey, speaking of blues? He does, yeah. Do you hear Bluey? Bluey's a good thing to like if you need like five minutes before we go. Oh, they're five-minute episodes? Yeah, it's just like. Oh, I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:04:49 I need you to just like sit for a minute while I sort something. I also didn't know that apparently the dad in that is played by Dave McCormack from the band Custard. Yes, correct. Which is a great Australian band if you haven't got into that. I have. Cool. So.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Nice. I mean, thanks anyway. Good on you. So I'm actually reading and somebody recommended this to me, and I wish I had it because it's from like a YouTube comment. The Fantastic Four Book of Doom by Ed Brubaker and Pablo Raimondi. It chronicles Doom's origins over six issues. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:20 I don't know whether you've read it. I have read that one, yeah. Apparently it's amazing. So I just wish I could find the comment, but. Oh, it was me. That was you.
Starting point is 01:05:27 That's how this happened is I commented and I said, James, I cannot believe you haven't read the book of doom. The problem is when I, whenever it's called, when I go to look for things like things, this particular thing, all the comments that I screenshot for hate mail.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Yes. Oh, this one just says Ben is handsome as hell. So that's pretty good. I meant to send that to Ben. Everyone check out his EP. That's right. Business District.
Starting point is 01:05:51 And he's also got a new video that's coming out on the channel, my channel, this week. So there you go. I can't find it. I can't find who said that. I'm really sorry. But anyway, so I'm really looking forward to that, some Dr. Doom stuff.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Very good. Very good. Why did you make that noise when you hit that drink bottle mason something that a frog would do he's full of lies full of lies should we do the next segment letters let's do it classic one was letters of letters we love you some, they're only a take away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Westworld. If you do want to reach the show, hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter or WeeklyPlanetPod at gmail.com. That's right. Shoot through an email to Mason. Also, I should mention, I had a look in there before, there's a lot of clickbait articles that people have been sending your way for our bonus podcast. We got this covered. We got this covered, covered, covered.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Yeah. Which is from bigsandwich.co, which is $9 a month if you want to do it. Have we mentioned this already in the show? Not so far, no. But we already got another ad in it and whatever. Yeah, that's exactly right. But, yeah, if you do want to check it out, mostly it comes down to keeping the lights on here.
Starting point is 01:07:00 And if everything falls down, including Patreon, we've got that. Exactly. That's the idea. The new podcast is a bit looser. Yes. I think people, if you go to the Great Mates, the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group, have some nice fun chats in there. It's all good times.
Starting point is 01:07:14 But I think a lot of, some people have said we just want to, it'd be nice if there was just a podcast where you and I just have a bit of a gab. I'm fine with that. And that, we got this covered, is sort of leaning more towards that. Yes. There's no rules in that podcast. No got this covered is sort of leaning more towards that. Yes. There's no rules in that podcast. No, it's absolutely not. It's absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:07:28 So, yeah. And it's really going to become anything at any point. Yeah. And it's meaner. And it's meaner. But no snitches. No, don't snitch on us. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:36 But again, if you can't afford it, don't stress. Also, there's commentary going up on there this week. The Rise of Skywalker is going up there, isn't it? Oh, yeah. And last night we just recorded a new commentary, which will be coming out several weeks after that. Yes. And I don't, isn't it? Oh, yeah. And last night we just recorded a new commentary, which will be coming out several weeks after that. And I don't want to spoil it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:49 But, I mean, this will definitely give it away. It is a Disney-owned property. That's right. So the 60% to 70% of media in the world that Disney own, it's one of those. We're going to thumb through some Malian vs. Predator books. That's right, yep. And you're going to love it.
Starting point is 01:08:04 And I had a really good time with that one. Yeah, that was a good one. I enjoyed that as well. So people will like that one. Here's a hint. It goes for two hours and six minutes maybe. There you go. And it's a Disney-owned property.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Yes, that's right. What have you got, though, in terms of letters this week? Let's have a look here. This is from Monica. She says, thanks for helping me pass my state exam, lads. Happy to do it. Yeah. She says, hello, James and May.
Starting point is 01:08:24 So I'm running into a report that yesterday I had my final state exam for assistant teacher qualification on the subject of American culture and history, and I made my main topic US comics without ever having read more than a handful. That's incredible. So what I'm saying is my entire knowledge was based on your podcast and Mason's Do Go On episodes. I got an A on content.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Because you did a Marvel one and you did a Ninja Turtles one. Yeah, and a one yeah i'm in a batman one yeah cool in general this podcast helped me a lot uh with getting through my uni times because it always was a genuine bright spot uh and yeah uh for monica and she says can i be the official german ta of the pod yes you may have to be so you're from germany hey no i'm not from germany not you i've been there obviously because i travel but no i'm not from i don't i think i may have some ancestry but i'm mostly irish i was trying to find a water bottle that i could ding you mean the one that you dinged before no nope why would i lie about such an innocuous thing it wouldn't make any sense for me to do that that's what people like you do.
Starting point is 01:09:26 I've got a tweet here from Chris Kidd. Okay. So it stumbled upon the Batman Who Laughs comics and was interested in seeing if you had read them and if you liked them. I know nothing about comics, but figured I know two mates who do, so I want to ask them. Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. I have read the Batman Who Laughs.
Starting point is 01:09:39 I have also read them. I'm not a huge fan. I didn't mind it. Yeah, I didn't really like the way it wrapped up because the idea behind the Batman Who Laughs is he gets poisoned with a Joker venom. It's a parallel universe. I didn't mind it. Yeah, I didn't really like the way it wrapped up because the idea behind the Batman Who Laughs is he gets poisoned with a Joker venom. It's a parallel universe version of the Joker, yeah. No, this is a different, different one again.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Oh, okay, right, right. So this one is where he's turning into the Batman Who Laughs. So it's not set in that. Oh, I see, right, right. I mean, it is set, it's connected, but he's slowly going mad. Oh, yes, uh-huh. And he's trying to fend that off well. But he also has to go insane to beat the real Joker
Starting point is 01:10:05 Batman Who Laughs or whatever I haven't read those, I only read the initial origin of that character which I did not care for because it seemed a bit mean spirited maybe go into White Knight if you're looking for something with a bit of a Batman edge, Batman White Knight might be the way to go, but no I liked it I think you can't really go wrong with that
Starting point is 01:10:21 what have you got? this is from Harris Johnston it says the global pandemic helped me achieve my dream job sounds like a spam email You can't really go wrong with that. Yeah. What do you got? This is from Harris Johnston. Hello, Harris Johnston. It says, the global pandemic helped me achieve my dream job. Sounds like a spam email. It certainly does. It's one of the ones where you open up and the formatting's all weird and the fonts all wrong.
Starting point is 01:10:34 You know immediately that it's spam. Yeah, and it's like, but click here to sign in. And you're like, okay. Well, no, my bank account. Dear James and Nick, at the beginning of the year, I lost my job as a community physiotherapist. Oh, boo. In the global pandemic, yeah. beginning of the year I lost my job as a community physiotherapist in the global pandemic. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:10:47 it resulted in myself being unemployed for a few months. However, I kept my head high and applied at my local hospitals around Brisbane. Brisbane boy! As I've always...
Starting point is 01:10:55 Brisbane, Vegas! In Vegas, baby! As I've always dreamt of working with the hospital sector. Thanks to the virus and hospitals requiring additional staff
Starting point is 01:11:02 I managed to land my dream job as a physiotherapist at a hospital. I just wanted to thank you both for your content that helped me through quarantine and to and from work. That's awesome. That's great.
Starting point is 01:11:12 I know you haven't done this in a while, but could I be your official physiotherapist of the podcast? Yes, you can. We'll be journeying up to Brisbane. You can fix all our various aches and pains. We're going to take a trip with the boys. We're going to come up. A boys trip.
Starting point is 01:11:23 You're going to fix all the boys. All the boys. All the boys are going to get real fixed up. We're old're going to come on a boys trip. You're going to fix all the boys. All the boys. All the boys are going to get real, real fixed up. We got, we got, we're old. We've got aches and pains. You know it. We've got all sorts of tensions. It's definitely true.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Oh yeah. And emotionally too. Oh wait, the immediately, the next sentence is if you both require a physiotherapist at any point, I'd be happy to provide a telehealth consult. Telehealth? Yeah, right? No. No, we got up with the boys.
Starting point is 01:11:43 We got up with the boys. We got up through the bloody, bloody Brisbane, Vegas. We're going to go to the casino. Yeah, right? No. No, we got up with the boys. We got up with the boys. We got up through the bloody, bloody Brisbane. We're going to go to the casino. That's right. We're going to go get some physio. Star City. Is that in Brisbane? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Maybe. It sounds like it would be. My phone's cold. He says, also, do you have any plans to play Star Wars Bounty Hunter featuring Jango Fett before season two of The Mandalorian begins for Caravan of Garbage? Yes. I think we've talked about that, haven't we? Yeah, but I've never played that one, I don't think.
Starting point is 01:12:06 I have, and I didn't love it, but they re-released it on PS4. Oh, let's get it. Yeah, okay, cool. But how you like the video games now is that I play them and get frustrated and you just mock me the whole time. Yeah, the system has been developed that works, yeah. Because otherwise it's just me slowly grinding through a game. And I can finish a game if you gave me five hours.
Starting point is 01:12:24 We don't have five hours. Because often also like I'll practice games to kind of get some semblance of ability now to make them a little bit swifter. No, we haven't done video games since Bond, which people seem to really like. So, yeah, I'd like to revisit some. But then you do video games and people are like, this isn't a movie. And then, you know, it's the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:12:43 And we do movies and they're like, this isn't a controller and then you know it's the whole thing you can't do movies and they're like this isn't a this is a roller record yeah exactly we do a comic and people like this isn't you just a video of you painting your house we can't win i don't need to paint my house it's still a few years away probably from doing that yeah it's a lot of brick work there it's fine yeah a couple of months i mean i don't. You know? Can't I just get a new one? Maybe. I mean, prices are going down, aren't they? Are they? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:13:11 I don't know anymore. No. I've got a tweet here from Gianni. Yes. Says, hashtag weekly planet pod. Hi, just had a thought. While listening to the pod with regards to Keaton's return as Batman, of course, I think it would be cool if Robert Battenbat was actually confirmed
Starting point is 01:13:25 as Bruce Wayne, wasn't confirmed as Bruce Wayne, but as a Batman successor similar to R.I.P. and Beyond storylines. No? Yeah, I think we've talked about this before, but I like the idea of doing someone else other than Bruce Wayne be Batman. Yeah, for sure. Or some other crime fighters. Yeah, I mean, you know, and Robert Pattinson.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Nightwing. Yeah, I was going to say Robert Pattinson does have, he gives off Dick Grayson vibes to me, so why I mean, you know, and Robert Pattinson. Nightwing. Yeah, I was going to say Robert Pattinson does have, he gives off Dick Grayson vibes to me, so why not him, you know, say it's a few years later and, you know, the old school Batman died or retired and. Yeah. Or he quit because he's Ben Affleck, doesn't want to do it anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:58 No, I'm into it. Pretty good, right? In for a penny worth. Thank you, everybody. I'm going to be going now to paint my house. I was going to say, it really needs it. It's really broke bad in the last couple of minutes. This is just one little extra one.
Starting point is 01:14:15 This is from Noah Buxton, a 13-year-old listener. He wants us to shout out his brother, his older brother, Owen Buxton from Pennsylvania, who's been quarantining and can't see his family. Oh, it sucks. Shout out to Owen Buxton. Good on you, mate. Stay safe.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Stick it out and you'll see your parents and your family in no time. Exactly. Yes. Yeah, that's really difficult when people are quarantined on different parts of the country or world or whatever. Yeah. That really sucks. Same doors if you can, though, obviously. Yes.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Because, you know, pandemic. Yeah. And it's real. And outside's boring anyway. It's not that good. No. It you can, though, obviously. Yes. Because, you know, pandemic. Yeah. And it's real. And the outside's boring anyway. It's not that good. No. It's really cold at the moment. I've saw some people in Melbourne and said,
Starting point is 01:14:50 you don't know cold in Melbourne. Yes, yes, I know. You live in fucking some bullshit country I don't care about. You live in that ice cave I'm always mentioning. We know. We get it. We get it. Your life is just numbness and cold.
Starting point is 01:15:02 We know. Yeah, you live for the cold, et cetera. Still pretty cold here. Still pretty cold here, we're not equipped emotionally That's right I've got one more tweet here I'm ready This is from, who have I got here, what's her name? Oh no, the name's gone, where did it go?
Starting point is 01:15:19 It's from Kyle Rancourt Great name I know, hashtag weeklyplanetpod I just wanted you guys to know that you're helping me through quarantine. He put this post. It says, my wife used to listen to the podcast on her commute home. Well, I would and still do listen to it while our son naps. Since she's been at home for three plus months,
Starting point is 01:15:35 she's been way behind on the weekly planet. She came out of her office today and I paused the episode to talk to her. It was right at the beginning of the what we're reading, what we're going to read. She was humming, singing a theme song the rest of the day and I would stage whisper, Westworld, and then laugh to myself. She thinks I'm going mad, so thanks for either keeping me sane or pushing me in the opposite direction either way.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Monday morning is something I look forward to now. So thank you. That's very nice. I'm glad we're pushing a couple. Marriages apart. Marriage either closer together or further apart. Either way, as long as they don't stay static. Exactly. moving abm abm that's it all right uh we should probably wrap up the show because my son is slowly making his way down behind you oh my god he actually is yeah
Starting point is 01:16:16 that's right he's gonna say a mean thing about my face again all right folks uh thanks everybody for listening uh thank you for subscribing thank you for telling a friend yes uh if you can't see me in person, just, just tell him over, tell him over the dams, you know, we really appreciate it.
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Starting point is 01:16:38 which is so true because you can not on Spotify apparently, but they might be working on it. Delete the app. Yeah. You can do it on Google. I bet you can do it on Google. Also, this one, it's really easy. It really helps the show.
Starting point is 01:16:49 This one says, this is from Conservative Millennial, says, five stars, Nick Mason, the other guy, pretty funny. A pretty funny podcast about movies, comics, and TV shows. Nick Mason and that other guy are funny even though the other is slowly going insane. So true. Yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:17:16 Yes. You can also go to the Weekly Planet on Twitter. That's our friend Rob Collings. Yeah, he's cool. And he's also at Rob Collings. And you can bloody, bloody look at all his great stuff. And he does all sorts of stuff. You can go to planetbroadcasting.com to sign up for the newsletter,
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Starting point is 01:18:12 Ad free. Rise of Skywalker. That's right. Commentary. We recorded it so long ago. A million years ago. We had a grand time. And that's the whole show, I reckon.
Starting point is 01:18:22 It is. Next week, maybe that Marvel thing we've been promising. It's great. It's coming. We have recorded it, so it is inevitable at some point. It's inevitable. It has to happen. Yeah, and the good thing is if one of us dies,
Starting point is 01:18:32 we've got one bit of extra content. We've got one in the can, exactly. That's right. Great to know. Yeah, we can sell it off to the highest bidder. We can auction it off, right? Like a Daredevil suit. Very good.
Starting point is 01:18:41 You're on your scooter. Looking good. Look at him go. I can't. I can't see him. Look at him go, Mason at him go I can't I can't see him look at him go Mason no I refuse I can't see him
Starting point is 01:18:48 and I refuse to move alright thanks guys for listening we'll see you next week goodbye this podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network visit planetbroadcasting.com
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