The Weekly Planet - 346 Umbrella Academy Season 2 & Comic Con Bomb

Episode Date: August 3, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:44 By HelloFresh. By HelloFresh. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me, as always, is my co-host, Mick Mason. Yep. Your co-host with the moho host. Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 00:01:12 That's exactly me. I just have a confession to make. We mentioned this off air. I've never seen the TV show Art Attack. Yeah. I feel that might be controversial in some way. I don't know what it is. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:01:23 It's like a dude and he's like, this is an art attack.'s that mean an art attack what's an art attack just it's an art attack is it just that's what you feel see i was gonna say it it makes me picture like just some like 80s punk dude with a mohawk just smashing up like the mona lisa whatever this is an art attack right just just stabbing p Picasso, the man himself. Absolutely. No, so he'll be like, he'll take a bunch of trash and he'll like make it into a big elephant or something. It's for kids.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Or he'll be like, this is how you make like a ball look shiny. And he'll draw like a ball and then put two little lines on it. So it's like two little shiny lines. Couldn't you just purchase a pre-shined ball? No, no, you draw the ball. It's to teach you how to draw. Couldn't I just download a picture of a shiny ball off the internet? In 1989 or whenever the show was on.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Yeah. Yeah, you could. That's what I thought, exactly. Maybe that's what I was doing, just downloading shiny balls. Okay, so it was a show. It was a British show that came here. I don't know if the Americans would know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Let us know if you're American. But Australians are always like, oh, my, look, there'll be, what happens to me a lot, I I find is somebody will be like, only 90s kids will recognise this, whatever, and there'll just be a picture out of context and there's like 1,000 responses that are like, oh, my God, and I'm like, I don't know what this is. I don't know what.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Look, check out some Art Attack. The top search on YouTube has 658,000 views. Okay. Is it for kids who don't know what Art Attack is? Is that the title? People know what Art Attack is. It's just you. Anyway, we've got to get on with the show.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Do we? I want to talk. How did I miss Art Attack? Was it on after school? You can't. I think it was, I don't know. It's just whenever. I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Okay, maybe that's why. I just remember it being on sometimes. Okay, right. I don't know the on. Maybe that's why. I just remember being on sometimes. Okay, right. I don't know the specific times, yeah. If you're just watching the ABC during the day, the Australian Broadcasting Association, that's what it says. I was at school.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Yeah. Maybe that's why. Maybe all these urchins were off not being at school. I did skip a lot of school, didn't I? Maybe that's it, yeah. It could be it anyway. Anyway, this week we've got a bunch of stuff going on. We're going to talk about The Umbrella Academy.
Starting point is 00:03:26 If there's a show you didn't watch as a child and therefore don't know what it is, email in and let us know. What is it? What is this thing you don't know? Bonus points if you don't know it at all. You're just guessing. Absolutely. If you don't know Art Attack, email in if you're from America.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Please do. Anyway, sorry, what's happening on the show this week? So we've got the thing I said before. The Umbrella Academy. We're going to talk about season two. It's out. That's right. We got some news about that Kate Bishop casting for the Hawkeye series.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Oh, yeah. The Witcher TV series. Some Netflix news, which you brought to the table, which I think is interesting. And also the results of Comic-Con 2020. Not to jump ahead. Oh, the winners and losers of Comic-Con 2020. In terms of, like, listenership and watching.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Oh. So it was pretty dire. But you're saying no spoilers up ahead but fart noise and thumbs down. No, I had to fart. That was a real fart. Oh, that was unrelated. Okay, right, right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Yeah. But there's time codes below as always if you do want to check it out. Would you say that the fart was thematically appropriate to the Comic-Con user? Yes, Mason. It wasn't a real fart. I lied. It was a fake fart. You'd be thrown for a loop. I know. So you're saying Art Attack was probably not real either. Yes, Mason. It wasn't a real fart. I lied. It was a fake fart.
Starting point is 00:04:25 You'd be thrown for a loop. I know. So you're saying Art Attack was probably not real either. No, it's real. I don't know. Just check out Art Attack. Was he a guy and he wore like a smock and he had a beret on? No, he was a cool everyday 90s dude.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I can show you a picture of him. So big shirt. Yeah, big shirt. Oh, not really. I'll show you. We're spending too much time on Art Attack. I think we're spending the exact correct amount of time on Art Attack. Oh, side note, if we can reconvene the grill team briefly.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Okay. Turns out you can buy those little portable barbecues in Australia. Oh, can you? You can get them at the hardware store. Yeah, but the thing is there's barbecues everywhere here. There's barbecues literally everywhere. People will be surprised to know in like parks in Australia, there are barbecues built in to the landscape.
Starting point is 00:05:05 That's right. You put a coin in, you get a barbecue. They were there before the first settlers got here. That's exactly right, yeah. This is the art attack guy. Look how serious he is about art, but don't let that fool you. He's got a sweater on. He's quite serious, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:16 He's not all business. He's all art. He looks like a man who would object to having that sweater on. No, no, no. He's not like that. He's a very jovial man. Wow. Neil Buchanan, apparently. Okay, right. There we go. Okay, anyway? No, no, no. They've made him do it. He's not like that. He's a very jovial man. Wow. Neil Buchanan, apparently.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Okay, right. There we go. Okay, anyway. Well, I'm glad. Me too. IGN. Should we bring it back? What, the sweater?
Starting point is 00:05:33 Art Attack. We don't need to. Everybody knows it except you. No, but a new version of Art Attack. We could host Art Attack. It's not very artistic because I gave up because I thought someone told me when I was a kid there's no money in it, so I stopped drawing. James, it's not about being artistic.
Starting point is 00:05:45 If Art Attack has taught me anything, it's about the enthusiasm for the craft. It's about drawing a ball and then putting some lines on it so it looks like a shiny ball. That's what it's about. You can do that. I believe in you. No, I can do it because of Art Attack. And what I think the show should be, it's you and you show people
Starting point is 00:06:00 how to draw a thing or whatever, how to improve your art techniques, and then there's just me on the side being like, was this in the original show? Or is this new? Is this a new thing? This is a modern bit. And then you attack me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:14 And then I smash your work because that's the art attack, I assume. The spirit of art attack. All right. IGN had the first reveal of Batman Death in the Family, which isn't your grandma's Batman thing. This is a new animated project and it's different. It's different. First of all, it is a prequel to Under the Red Hood,
Starting point is 00:06:29 which is one of the best DC animated movies. A prequel of sorts, I guess. That's right. It's got Bruce Greenwood's returning and Joe DiMaggio. Ah, voice of Bender. That's right, as Batman and the Joker. So for people who don't know Death in the Family, the original comic book was from the 80s.
Starting point is 00:06:46 That's right. The home of Art Attack. It was based around the second Robin, Jason Todd, who famously fans were divided on whether they liked him or not, whether he was as good as Dick Grace in the original Robin. That's right. And so DC decided to create this storyline called Death in the Family where one of the issues would end in a cliffhanger on whether or not this robin was going to live or die and then readers were allowed to call a couple of different numbers phone numbers
Starting point is 00:07:11 like they did back in the 80s and and determine whether or not interactively whether or not this jason todd was going to die and by a small number of votes he he did die yes but obviously not really because he came back decades later yeah um so now they've they've taken the spirit of that that's right death in the family the animated interactive movie experience uh you the the viewer get to choose whether or not he lives there's three options whether he lives whether he is saved by batman oh it's whether he survives on his own i guess whether he dies on his own, I guess, whether he dies or whether Batman saves him in time. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:49 And the movie is going to play out differently. I imagine there'll be more options besides that. Apparently there's seven possible endings, but the Under the Red Hood continuity is like the baseline. But it's like your Bandersnatch. It's like you get to choose the story. But also, as I understand it, the digital version is not going to have that option. Well, I don't think it could.
Starting point is 00:08:07 No, right? Unless it went to a Netflix or something like that. So what is basically going to happen is you get the interactive options if you buy the DVD or the Blu-ray. But if you download it digitally, I imagine they just play out in order. Yeah, I assume so. It's like they go, here's story one, here's story two, here's story three, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:08:25 But, yeah, so were you excited to be like, ooh, let's see, clickety click? Kind of. Yeah. I think I'd rather just watch like the different versions as opposed to shoes. Yeah, right. Because there is that moment when they're like, Batman, what are you going to do? Yes. Batman, are you having a stroke?
Starting point is 00:08:39 You haven't said anything for 10 seconds. You're just staring blankly. Batman. Sorry, I was just reminiscing about things in the 80s, which is now the current time that I'm living in. So it also could include several characters previously unseen in the original film. So different directions, you also get different characters
Starting point is 00:08:55 that you won't see in other timelines. Well, this version seems to have at least some version of Robin become Red Robin. So it's probably Jason Todd, I'm guessing. That's a role that different Robins have had over the years. So Tim Drake, the third Robin, had that role for a while. There's a mystery version in Kingdom Come, which I think is Tim Drake or could be a different Robin, who knows.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Anyway, yeah, so we're going to see whether he lives on as Robin or evolves to something else or he becomes the Red Hood. But in continuity he becomes the Red Hood. The Red Hood, yes. It's true. But it's just a fun experiment. I like this idea. I think it's a cool kind of throwback, and it's also linked to, I think that's my favourite, the modern DC animated movies.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Under the Red Hood, yeah, right. Probably my favourite one. But I like some of the other ones too. And it shifts those DVDs too. You know it does. Yeah, maybe we should do that. Yeah, let's shift some DVDs. When we do Art Attack, we'll put it on DVD.
Starting point is 00:09:45 And will I praise your beautiful art? Will I be indifferent towards it, the default? Or will I destroy it? Also the default. You're going to see so many shiny balls. I'm going to draw so many. Okay, good. Did you say that Pixar have unveiled their new thing?
Starting point is 00:10:00 Nope. It's called Luca. Sorry, it's called Luca, like L-U-C-A? Yes. He's a storyboard artist at Pixar, part of the creative team, and he directed the short film Luna about nine or ten years ago. So he's doing Luna and then Luca? Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:16 So he's of Italian origin and it's set in Italy and the animated film is described as a coming-of-age adventure that will tell the story of a young boy named Luca as he experiences an unforgettable summer with his newfound best friend in a seaside town on the italian river area but all the fun is threatened by a deeply out secret he is a sea monster from another world just below the surface he is a sea monster from another world just below the world of surface oh so is like the top of him a boy all right the monster underneath hey i love
Starting point is 00:10:40 swimming in the ocean join me in the ocean i can't join you on the surface. I don't like it. But I love eating children. Misguzy. Misguzy, I cannot live on the surface world. So there you go. I think that's coming 2021. So he is a sea monster. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:55 That's what it says. It sounds like Reverse Little Mermaid. I copied it verbatim. She's a sea monster. She's a regular mermaid. Regular. That's a sea monster. Is it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Okay, fair enough. I think it's exciting though. Yeah, I think so. Do we have any footage? Do we have any image of some kids jumping into the water? I don't know if he is a sea monster. That doesn't make any sense. What did I copy this from?
Starting point is 00:11:15 Maybe he's friends with a sea monster. Probably friends with a sea monster like that Ted Danson Loch Ness movie. Remember that one? Nope. Oh, vaguely, yes. Okay, I'm going to look it up real quick. Look it up real quick. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Here we go. Here we go. Here we bloody go. While you're doing that, I'll just quickly mention awards season. Okay, go on. Any time. He looks like a regular kid. He's leaping off a thing.
Starting point is 00:11:34 That's what I was thinking. He's going to be a sea monster. Unless he's like one of those sponges you put in the water and it gets really big. All right. So maybe when he's dried out, he looks like a regular boy. You put him in the ocean. You know? Yeah, but ineffective because he's like water. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, right. So maybe when he's dried out, he looks like a regular boy. You put him in the ocean. You know. Yeah, but ineffective because he's like water.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So award season for Emmys. Yes. 26 nominations for Westworld. Not Westworld, Watchmen, which is great. Yeah, many.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Because that's a good show and I'm glad. Succession got 18 and Westworld got 11. Everybody else got other things as well. You've seen Succession. Yes. What's Succession about? The Murdochs. Is it really 18 and Westworld got 11. Everybody else got other things as well. You've seen Succession? Yes. What's Succession about? It's the Murdochs. Is it really?
Starting point is 00:12:08 I mean, not really. Oh, but like a version of the Murdochs. Yeah, essentially. It's got the dude, you know, Striker from X-Men. Yes, Brian Cox. Yeah, Brian Cox. That's him. I nearly said the guy from Super Troopers.
Starting point is 00:12:20 But people were like, he's not. How dare you? I know he's in other things. I don't remember him being in Super Troopers at all. He's in Troy. Who's he in Super Troopers? He's like the chief. Oh, is he?
Starting point is 00:12:27 Right, okay. Maybe. Oh, my God. Might not be. You ever think about the storied careers of beloved character actors? Yeah. Like one time they're like, you know, they're fully embodying Diego Rivera, Frida Kahlo's husband,
Starting point is 00:12:40 and the next they've got big robot octopus arms strapped to their back and they're pretending to rob a bank. Yeah, that's right. You know what I mean? You can do's right you can do whatever you want that's hollywood for you it's hollywood baby are any of those nominations excite you awards mason watchman deserves a lot i think that's that's uh i know um damon lindelof has said again that he's not going to do anymore right but he said he wouldn't mind seeing like somebody else have a crack at it i read an article this week it was about uh also first of all, speaking of Luca, it says a dark secret about his true identity.
Starting point is 00:13:09 He is a sea monster from another world just below the water's surface. So he is a sea monster. What does it mean just below the surface? I don't know. I don't know. It doesn't make any sense. It's like, you know, I imagine one of those like angler fish, we know with the big light.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like he's dangling a boy. Maybe. Let's play the surf. Maybe he is. It must be magic, yeah. Like he's dangling a boy? Maybe. Let's play the surf. Maybe he is. It must be magic, surely. I don't know. I would prefer just some people hanging out in the Riviera,
Starting point is 00:13:30 just having a nice time. Just go on holiday if you want that. Just driving a Vespa. Just go on holiday if you want that. Eating a gelato, I can't. We're not allowed. Just get out of here. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Great. Yeah. Well. I've done that Italian Riviera. Yeah. I've done the Cinque Terre, Mason. Oh, yes. It's a good walk. Nice. Get some gel that Italian Riviera. Yeah. I've done the Cinque Terre, Mason. Nice. It's a good walk.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Nice. Get some gelato on the way. I'm just talking about the gelato, exactly. A little gelato. It's good. I should have wore better shoes, though. A little cappuccino for breakfast, not after 11 a.m. No, definitely not.
Starting point is 00:13:58 So there you go. I was going to say I read an article this week about Alan Moore's opinion of modern day watching the TV series. Let's see if I can find it. Isn't he a Rorschach prequel comic? Did you see that as well? I think his opinion might be I'm not going to watch it. Yeah, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:14:12 He doesn't have to. He'd be curious, so I reckon, wouldn't he? I would have thought so. Look, honestly, I – Especially people like it's good. If anything was going to turn his head on Watchmen adaptations, it would be this. But I think at this point, yeah, look, a few years ago he told a magazine
Starting point is 00:14:28 that he sees his refusal to be named or compensated for projects he doesn't agree with as a way of taking some power over the situation. You can't buy that kind of empowerment. To just know that as far as you're aware, you've not got a price, that there is not an amount of money large enough to make you compromise. Even a tiny bit of principle, that, as it turned out, would make no practical difference anyway. Yeah, but he did sell a bunch of stuff. Oh, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, good on him. Good on him and whatever he's doing. Anyway, this article doesn't say. That's fascinating. It isn't, though.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Yeah. Yeah. Mason. Yes. The Hollywood Reporter. This is what they're saying. Uh-huh. Beyond Good and Evil.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Are you familiar with that game? Was it a Peter Molyneux game? No, it was a PS2 Ubisoft game. Was Peter Molyneux involved somehow? I don't think he was. I don't really like that guy. I think he's overrated. All right, then.
Starting point is 00:15:16 I reckon he was involved somehow. Fine, he's involved. It's like a Tomb Raider-style-esque game, but you're taking photos of stuff. Oh, I'm thinking of something else. Yeah, you're thinking of that one they did about the boy, Milo. Remember the interactive boy? He was like on your TV. It was
Starting point is 00:15:31 like a, you know that Microsoft camera thing they had where you'd go and you'd be like, have you done your homework? And he'd be like, I haven't done my homework. And I'm like, why would anybody do that? Why are you scolding an imaginary boy? What is this? I don't like that. I'd be like, boy, be free. Why am I making an A on? I'm trapped in a don't like that. I'd be like, boy, be free. Go and employ.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Why am I making an AR? I'm trapped in a TV, he says. Well, I'll get you out. Here comes an art attack. I've got an axe. And I'd smash the TV. So we're talking about black and white. Wait, we're talking about Beyond Good and Evil.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Okay, right. So it's a video game. Okay, I've heard of video games. So it didn't do super well. I remember wanting to get it at the time when it came out and I never did. But there is another game they're making at the moment for Ubisoft. But here's the thing. So it's an Ubisoft game. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Adaptation. The last one they did was, I think the last one they did was Assassin's Creed. They might have had some direct DVD stuff or just some other movies. I don't know. Yeah, right. But did you see the recent controversy at Ubisoft? Is Crunch involved somehow? Sexual harassment, a bunch the recent controversy at ubisoft uh the guy is crunch involved somehow sexual harassment a bunch of stuff oh dear because so the guy who oversaw you
Starting point is 00:16:30 know how all ubisoft games are essentially the same and they've got towers that you climb and enemy encampments and get feathers and whatever yeah leaping and leaping a thing and whatever but even not like outside of assassin's creed a lot of them are just that. The same guy, Serge Hayescoat, he oversaw all the games, and that's why they're all so uniform. Because I don't know if you remember, Ubisoft used to make, they'd do a platformer on an open world or whatever. Yeah, back a million years ago. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:16:56 So he actually resigned amid sexual allegations recently. Yeah, but with the Beyond Good and Evil, they're like, it's this big open world thing and you can explore. And it's like, I don't think that's what that game's about. I think you've missed the point of this game entirely. But it's a beloved franchise that they've been threatening to bring back for 10 years now, but they still haven't. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Are you excited for Beyond Good and Evil? You've got to stick in a camera. Stick in a camera. You're an investigative journalism. I don't mind that. That's kind of fun. Again, I've never played it. Correct.
Starting point is 00:17:26 You want to talk about the Netflix thing that's going on at the moment. Oh, my God. Ubisoft created Bat. B-A-T. Yeah. The Amiga 500. Oh, my God. I'm not saying they haven't made good stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:36 No, I'm not saying. I can't remember. Yeah. Because they have. But like. God, some of these. I'm just looking at a list of old Ubisoft games from the 80s. They're so French, James.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Ubisoft. They are, aren't they? So French. Skateball, 1989, Skateball. Is that French, is it? Yep, yep. Yeah. Yeah, Watch Dogs, all of these things.
Starting point is 00:17:54 It's all like this. Ranks, the video game. Ranks. Ranks based on the comic book character Ranks. I don't know Ranks. What's his deal? Oh, they made Unreal back in the day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Yeah. Jimmy Connors Pro Tennis Tour, so European. Oh, one of my favourites. Yeah. Oh, they made Unreal back in the day. Yeah. Yeah. Jimmy Connors pro tennis tour. So European. Oh, one of my favourites. Yeah. Oh, the platform game First Samurai. Prequel to Last Samurai. I'm not good at this.
Starting point is 00:18:14 I'm the first one. I don't know anything. The Caution Conspiracy. I'm just naming things. Sometimes I do have some nostalgia for things, and I like to save it up when we're trying to record a podcast and keep it on track. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. And just be like, it up when we're trying to record a podcast and keep it on track. Sure, yeah, yeah. And just be like, oh my god.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Oh my god. Rayman. They did Rayman. As I said, there's some good stuff that they have done, but yeah, horrible company apparently. Oh, that's a shame. They did the Stick of Truth. People love that. Oh yeah, that's right. So they just dance, boo. Anyway, we should move on. Netflix Mason,
Starting point is 00:18:42 what are you talking about? I'm in Bat, the video game Bat. You had like a, no, you're a man. You were like a, like a. You should be called man, shouldn't I? You should be called man. That's true. It was like an RPG, but you had like a, like a, like a iPad-like device built into your arm.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Oh, like a full-addy kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what do you do with it? It was like in your arm. What do you do with it? Just a lot of, just a lot of circuits and stuff. You know what the games, not games. Back lot of circuits and stuff. You know what games are like back in the 80s. I remember. Not good.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Yeah, not good. Yeah. What's next, Mason? What are we doing? I don't know. What is next? Netflix. I kept asking you. Oh, yeah. Netflix. Oh, yeah. What's the deal? Well, the deal is, I believe, currently Netflix have long promised this option. Yes. But they've implemented or threatened. Yes. Some people would say
Starting point is 00:19:24 threatened. Some auteurs would say threatened certainly uh on certain devices they're rolling out i think they started with android devices so mostly tvs and stuff yeah you can have the option to change the the uh the play speed of various things so you have to pick it every so like every time you select an episode or something it's like do you want to select your playback speed like you can't just set it and leave it forever. That's their concession to people who are like, you shouldn't be able to change the speed to whatever. It's ruining the artist's vision kind of thing. So you can either make it up to
Starting point is 00:19:53 0.5 speed slower or you can make it up to 1.5 speed faster, I think. I mean, you can do it on podcasts and that's the greatest art form of all. That's right. For some people, we're talking like this. That's right. And for some people who have already set us to 1.5 speed, you can imagine how fast we're going. Also, we get at least one message a week which says,
Starting point is 00:20:11 I listen to you guys on half speed and you sound drunk. I listen to you guys on half speed and you sound drunk. We get at least one of that. That's right. And I think it's a different person every time. Maybe. Anyway, go on. Yeah. So, yeah, there's some outrage about the artist artist's vision but you also mentioned some interesting things before the show i'm not against this
Starting point is 00:20:31 because i don't care like i mean that's not how i'm gonna watch things no um but it's an option that you don't it's it's to me it's like doing a video game on easy mode or speeding up a podcast or skimming through a book it's like however it might not be the best way to consume it, but you can't tell people how. Look, on the one hand, that is true. And look, and again, if the, the, I believe the American, there are various American deaf and blind associations were like, okay, this is good because, you know, if you are, if you are hard of hearing and you know, you're using the subtitles, sometimes they just zip
Starting point is 00:21:04 past and it's like a frustrating effect of like, oh, I didn't quite get that. I'm gonna have to wind it back 10 seconds. Wind it back. you're hard of hearing and, you know, you're using the subtitles, sometimes they just zip past. Yeah. And it's like a frustrating effect of like, oh, I didn't quite get that. I'm going to have to wind it back 10 seconds. Wind it back. Okay, wind it back kind of thing. So now, of course, the subtitles go a little bit slower. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:13 And again, it's not, it seems to me it's not like, it's not, okay, you can run it at regular speed or you can run it at half speed and that's your option. Like there's a range in between. To pick what works for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, you know, that's handy for people. And, you know, people who are blind also the option is, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:30 the audio is a little bit slower so you can sort of take it in, which I think is good. And again, look, I read a Twitter thread today. It was somebody who they'd made a movie. They were cinematographer on a movie or something like that. What movie? And there was a screening of a of a particular movie of theirs and it was running it one frame per second lower than it was normally set to run at and they were
Starting point is 00:21:52 like this is like to them the the people who'd made it they're like this has ruined it like it's thrown the timing off completely and i'm like i understand like as the people who are creating this but i would imagine for a lot of people they don't't. They wouldn't notice that. They wouldn't notice that. They wouldn't notice one frame per second. And look, I completely understand like artist's intent and the way you want things to be paced. Like I understand that. But if it is meaning more people can enjoy something and it's an option,
Starting point is 00:22:17 then I really, I think it's a good thing. Yeah, the spokesperson said, we've also been mindful of the concerns of some creators. It's why we've capped the range of playback speeds and required members to vary the speed each time they watch something new. So you can't be like, I'm going to watch this as eight times speed.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Yeah. But that's what I'm going to do. Nice. Yeah. risk factors, like high blood pressure developed during pregnancy, which can put us two times more at risk of heart disease or stroke. Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London.
Starting point is 00:23:07 One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Do you want some Marvel news, television news? Yes. Good, because this is from the Illuminerdi. They've been popping up a lot lately, but apparently Hayley Steinfeld has signed on for Kate Bishop in the Hawkeye series. Okay, so she's the second Hawkeye.
Starting point is 00:23:29 That's right. Is she Hawkeye's apprentice? I guess. Or maybe at some point she is, yeah. Yeah. Okay, that's cool. But not daughter. Yep, that's right.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Headband sometimes. Yes. To keep the hair out of your... Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I also saw that Hawkeye was revealed for Marvel's Avengers, that video game, which is having a fade this week. That's right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:49 On an unrelated topic, I played a video game, a popular video game that's coming out. You can't say what it is. You can't say what it is. For contractual reasons, you're not allowed to say the name of the video game, but let's just say... I can't say the name of it. Let's just say one of the characters looks a little bit too much
Starting point is 00:24:05 like Billy Ray Cyrus for comfort for me. And he says y'all. That's right, Rock Band. It's back. Billy Ray Cyrus edition. That's right. It's Old Town Road, the game. That's right.
Starting point is 00:24:16 So I might have a video on it. I might not. We'll see how we go. Yeah. But back to Hawkeye, what do you think of the casting? Good. Yeah. I mean, she was rumoured a while back.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Well, I mean, Hayley Steinfeld is also a character. She's a real character. She's done a lot of stuff that I have no idea, that it's completely out of my wheelhouse. I know she's- Edge of 17. I enjoyed her in True Grit. Yeah, Edge of 17.
Starting point is 00:24:40 I didn't say that. Bumblebee, I enjoyed her in Bumblebee. Yeah, me too. And she does pop music as well, I think. She was in one of the Pitch Perfects. Oh, was she? I must have seen that. She was in two and three.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I've seen all the Pitch Perfect movies, so there you go. There you go. I think she also appears briefly in the new Charlie's Angels. Oh, okay. Maybe I've seen a lot of her work. Anyway, she's all over the place doing stuff, like her work generally. So that's good. She's a recruit as a cameo appearance.
Starting point is 00:25:06 So it must mean for like the next one. She's also, of course, in Into the Spider-Verse. Oh, yeah. So, yeah, she's doing a lot of stuff. She's a pop star as well. She does some sing-a-nee, sing-a-nee stuff. There you go. Good on her.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Oh, Ender's Game. Remember that movie? I saw that on one of my streaming services the other day and I'm like, that's interesting. I'm never going to watch that movie ever again. But somebody made it and I'm just like, whatever. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Yeah, that is what life is like now, isn't it? Actually, I didn't mind. It was Gavin Hood who was forced to make X-Men Origins Wolverine at gunpoint. Explain that to me, Simon. I remember how he made like the bad X-Men movie, but it wasn't really his fault because that movie was a nightmare and all the producers and people behind the scenes were ruining it.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Here's the thing. I am well on board with X-Men Origins Wolverine being an awful movie, but I don't know any of the behind the scenes of that. That's fascinating to me. Yeah, they had like guys come down and like repaint sets in the night. Really? Well, so he'd be like, this set should be grey and they're like, it should be brown, so let's fix it later.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Essentially things like that. That's fascinating. So there you go. So, yeah, he has made set should be grey, and they're like, it should be brown, so let's fix it later. Essentially things like that. That's fascinating. So there you go. So yeah, he has made good things, but that was kind of unfair. Also, I didn't mind Ender's Game, to be fair. I have not seen it. Yeah. It's about shooting ants or something.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Okay, good. You know, one of the many reasons that X-Men Origins Wolverine is bad, because it does feel very much like made by committee. Yeah. Like, what are people like? People like cool guys walking away from explosions. That's right. Let's put that in unironically. Like fables about the moon or something.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah. You see there was that X-Men article this week was about Bryan Singer in the early days of X-Men and how he got to be able to get away with all these things for so long because- Like being a creep. Being a creep and also not showing up on set and being a real prick and how he buried, like they all confronted him in his trailer at one point. Oh, I did see that, yeah, because there was a set, a stunt went wrong.
Starting point is 00:26:47 In costume. Yeah. Waggling their rubber claws at him. Yeah, he basically moved his stunt forward and they weren't prepared for it and it was a very dangerous situation. Yeah, right. Yeah, well, he's awful. And how did he get away with this?
Starting point is 00:26:59 Because he was just. Because the studio were like, it's fine because these make money, essentially. Yeah, right. That's what it came down to. But then the less successful they were and like critically and Because the studio were like, it's fine because these make money, essentially. That's what it came down to. But then the less successful they were, like critically and commercially, then they were like, well, actually. Well, actually, we're against what he does now
Starting point is 00:27:16 that it's not bringing any cash. People knew he'd bring people to set. There's all these allegations of grooming and these strange parties with underage boys and all these other like things that went on and it's really quite terrible. So anyway, fuck that guy. Yep. And everything he's ever done, even the good stuff. Courtney Cox is back for Scream 5.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Oh, not Friends, but it's just Courtney Cox this time. That's right. Courtney. Chandler had an aneurysm. It's just that sad, isn't it? Yeah. Friends, everyone's dead but Monica. Okay, what's she back for?
Starting point is 00:27:54 I was not paying attention. Oh, okay. How many screams have you seen? One? Really? I think so. I missed that somehow as well. Two with Tim and the Olphant.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Nope. Three with other people. Jane Silent Bob are in three. I've seen, is it Jay and Silent Bob are like the weird? They're a cameo in it. Oh, okay. So it's not two Jay and Silent Bob-alikes like in Freddy vs. Jason. I think there was supposed to be maybe a crossover Jay and Silent Bob
Starting point is 00:28:18 Scream movie at some point. There might have been sort of that. That's why they were in Freddy vs. Jason. There's the two stoners that are very Very similar to Jay and Silent Bob Scream 5, Wes Craven isn't back So I've seen Scream And I've seen Scary Movie So I've seen
Starting point is 00:28:34 Scream and then a movie That satirises All the tropes of all the Scream movies Bearing in mind I haven't seen most of them We saw most of the Scary Movies Didn't we? Because seen like we saw most of the scary movies didn't we? Because I remember we kept seeing them even though we didn't like them. Yeah I've seen a lot. We got to like five maybe? Is there five of those? Maybe yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Leslie Nielsen's The President or something? Oh I have seen yeah yeah that's right. And they also just become whatever they're not actually scary movies. That's right because they sort of they start out as a they started out as a scary movie as a screen parody and then they just became like Zucker Brothers airplane style movies. Yeah and it's just became like Zucker Brothers airplane-style movies. I don't know, we're doing signs, I guess.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Yeah, Leslie Nielsen's the president and he's farting a lot in Air Force One or whatever, yeah. So it's just whatever at that point. But, yeah, I remember there's a Million Dollar Baby parody in it where people keep falling onto stools and breaking their necks. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah, yeah. I've seen all four.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I think one and two are particularly good. The other two are fine, my God. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, vaguely, yeah. I've seen all four. I think one and two are particularly good. The other two are fine, I think. But the Radio or Not directors are doing this new one. Oh, that's that horror movie that you like. It's great. You should really watch Radio or Not. Okay, I'm going to write it down. So please check it out.
Starting point is 00:29:36 It's on one of the streaming services. Oh, I love the streaming services. On one of them the other day. So that's exciting. Turns out there is a website that tells you what's on everything. It's called Just Watch. Yeah, but which country? No, there's an Australian version.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Oh, my God. It works. Is it justwatch.com.au slash snags on a barbie? It's justwatch.com slash au slash snags on a barbie. Okay, good. Terrific stuff. In another news. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Because I love news. I'm ready for news. Wait, what do you think is going to happen with Courtney Cox? Why is it just Courtney Cox assigned onto this? I think they're all back. I was going to say, yeah. David Arquette's back.
Starting point is 00:30:10 I think, yeah. Camber's back. Yeah. Jamie Kennedy's back. Just kidding. He died in one of them. Is,
Starting point is 00:30:16 is Matthew Lillard in some of them? Which one's here again? Which one's Matthew? Shaggy. Oh yeah, he is. He's in the first one. Okay,
Starting point is 00:30:24 right. Without spoiling any of those movies about who dies or who's anything. Okay, right. Yeah, Skeet Aldridge is in some of them. Skeet Aldridge. Skeet Aldridge. So there you go. It's funny because those movies were so like hot and topical at the time.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Yeah. And they were lampooning like the movies of the 80s of like your Halloweens and whatever. But now there's been as much time if not more past between the first scream and now as there was between scream and like halloween yeah that's very true and and we'll sort of and again we're not horror movie guys but we're we're trope guys certainly we don't mind we love scary movies we don't mind getting we don't mind taking a cliche or a catchphrase and just driving it into the ground. So people would just want to listen on double speed. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:31:05 But we've sort of reached a point where every movie is self-referential to itself and everything that came before it. Like every MCU movie is like, can you believe we're fighting these aliens? What are we? I can't believe it. Yeah, I can also believe it. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, so what are these movies going to be?
Starting point is 00:31:24 If they're just going to be like, now you know the rules of a horror movie are like this. Yeah, we do. Because every movie explains it like that, ironically. That's true at this point. Yeah, what do you do with it? Is it super earnest now? What is it going to be?
Starting point is 00:31:37 I don't know. I mean, I like those Ready or Not guys. So I think you can't just do like, well, the rules of a reboot are. Because also I think they did that already in like 2011. Yeah. So I don't know what the take is, but I don't know. What do you do? Because I don't want like, well, in a reboot you bring back
Starting point is 00:31:54 some original characters and you kill some of them. Do you do Wes Craven's A New Nightmare where it's Courtney Cox playing Courtney Cox and Matthew Lillard playing Matthew Lillard and the real Matthew Lillard is murdered. So you could bring back actors who were in the franchise but had been killed or revealed as the killers. And they're on a Zoom meeting to- Enough with the Zoom bullshit, mate.
Starting point is 00:32:15 No, James, hear me out. I cannot. Hear me out, James. If I see another show that's like you, imagine the show that you love but all the characters are doing a Zoom. I don't want to see another fucking Zoom meeting. It's just all the people you love, except they're all really old now, not wearing any makeup and out of costume.
Starting point is 00:32:29 They're just wearing old sweatshirts. They've all got earbuds in, and they're just reading. I don't want to borrow that. That being said, I did watch some of the Edgar Wright, Scott Pilgrim cast. Actually, that's a different situation, but I'm talking like a show where it's like, can you believe this pandemic? Oh, yeah, yeah, no, that's right. The Mythic Quest did a good one oh yeah on apple tv i'd say watch that one if you found that show but um so i was gonna say what about they're all it's all the characters
Starting point is 00:32:54 they're prepping for like a scary movie reunion and they're like we're all gonna do a table reading and cast reading we're all having a grand time and they're all getting killed it could be called scary reunion oh that's right these movies are called scream aren't they no you call it scary Table reading and cast reading, we're all having a grand time and they're all getting killed. It could be called Scary Reunion. Oh, that's right. These movies are called Scream, aren't they? No, you call it Scary Reunion. Scary Reunion. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Nice. That's right. Nice. That's a brilliant idea, Mason. Thank you. I wouldn't mind that real word thing, though. I think that'd be interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Okay, The Witch is getting a prequel on Netflix. It's called Blood Origin. Okay. Blood Orange Origin. Maybe. Have you ever had a Blood Orange anything? Yeah. Always good. Always good. I like a Blood Origin. Okay. Blood Orange Origin. Maybe. Have you ever had a blood orange anything? Always good. Always good. I like a blood orange. What is it about them? See, if I was on the
Starting point is 00:33:31 Italian Riviera right now, I'd be drinking a blood orange, an aranciata. I'd be drinking a San Pellegrino aranciata. They throw you a blood orange and you can squeeze into it. Exactly. Just a slice. It's a six-part prequel about the first witcher who lived before
Starting point is 00:33:46 the elven civilization fell 100, 1,200 years ago or something. Okay. I didn't even know there was an elven civilization in that universe.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I forgot everything about it. Did you watch the entire thing? I did. Did I? Yeah, sort of. Yeah, I think so. I watched one episode. It's good, I think.
Starting point is 00:34:01 It's not like amazing. Okay. It's pretty solid and it gets more interesting as it goes but the timeline is a bit's good, I think. It's not, like, amazing. Okay. It's pretty solid. And it gets more interesting as it goes. But the timeline is a bit unnecessarily confusing, I found. Well, why not add a 1,200-year prequel then? That'll make things less confusing. What do you think will make this different?
Starting point is 00:34:16 Do you think it'll be like, well, the technology is slightly less advanced. Yes. The wells are dirtier. The wells are dirtier. More elves. Elven. It says before the elven civilization fell. Elves.
Starting point is 00:34:27 The felven situation. Felven civilization. So there you go. You excited for Witcher Blood Origin? Nope. Do you know it's based on a video game? Oh, then I'm back in. People are actually writing their tweets right now.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Oh, you're messing with them because this is based on the books or something. Well, yeah. Yeah. They're all based on books. Yeah. Because when we've talked about them in videos, people are like, don't you know they're actually based on books? I'm sorry I didn't mention literally everything.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I'm so sorry. Yeah. In the last video we did for Carved Out of Garbage. It's fine. You know what we should do? We should start, we should figure out whatever the lamest tie-in is to The Witcher and then we say it's based on that. You're like, you know this TV show is based on a line of Funko Pops?
Starting point is 00:35:07 The Witcher 3 Wild Hunt Funko Pops. Did you know I love them? I'm a big fan since back in the day. We should get the franchise wrong. It's based on the Cimmerillion, The Witcher's Cimmerillion. You know that, don't you? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:20 We mentioned, I accidentally cut it out. Did you know this entire show is based on a Burger King meal? It's called The Witch Whopper. The Witch Whopper. Do you remember the Angry Whopper? What was it? It was the Hulk tie-in. It was called the Angry Whopper.
Starting point is 00:35:37 It just had like a fist? No, it was just hot sauce on it. That's it. Great. And there was the Dark Whopper, which was Batman themed. It might have the black bun, didn't it? Yeah, maybe. There was one with a black bun recently. Yeah, And there was the Dark Whopper, which was Batman themed. It might have the black bun, didn't it? No, yeah, maybe. There was one with a black bun recently.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yeah, it was probably the Dark Whopper. They'll do anything, Hungry Jack slash Burger King. They'll ally themselves with any franchise. They'll microwave their burgers. Yeah, anyway, Witch Whopper. Witch Whopper. Witch Whopper. The Witch Whopper.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Yeah, so in the recent Transformers video, I accidentally trimmed out the bit because I sent over the video edit to Ben. Oh, yes. Because I edited it twice. It doesn't matter. It's either here or there. But I edited out the bit where we mentioned that Leonard Nimoy was the voice of Galvatron.
Starting point is 00:36:13 So Ben was good enough to put in the footage and write, Leonard Nimoy was Galvatron. Yeah, okay, that's good. There were still comments like, did you know that Leonard Nimoy was the voice of Galvatron in the 80s? Yes, I did. I think I pinned a comment just to be like, yes, I know. Did you know this entire franchise was based around some toys
Starting point is 00:36:32 that you could get at McDonald's Happy Meal? It was a little burger and it turned into Robot Man. Do you remember those? Yeah, I had some of those. I had a fries one. I was really disappointed when I saw them in real life because I thought they were like the size of an actual burger, but they're like teeny tiny.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Also, you went into the McDonald's like full of hope and joy, like you were going to get a- I didn't go to many McDonald's when I was a kid. It wasn't really- My mum was one of those like mums who were like, we're going to make our own McDonald's. I'm like, no, you can't. What are you even talking about?
Starting point is 00:36:57 You know, there's that famous Eddie Murphy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not that we never got it, Mason. Don't get me wrong. All right, cool. You want to depart it. Also, don't eat it because it's terrible. It's clean, though.
Starting point is 00:37:06 I say definitely eat it. Eat all the McDonald's you want. Sure. No, don't. Don't do that. You'll die. That's good. Universal, this is-
Starting point is 00:37:14 When was the last time you had a good quarter pounder, James? Oh, my God. I don't eat quarter pounders. I get a double cheeseburger. I find the quarter pounder's a bit much in terms of breadage even. Oh, yeah. I understand because there's more bread. Universal have struck a deal with AMC to give the option
Starting point is 00:37:27 of a 17-day release window. So Universal say with their Fast and Furious and their Trolls franchise. Remember AMC were like, we'll never work with you again. Oh, because AMC run theatres as well. Yes. In addition to being a channel. Correct. Are they a channel?
Starting point is 00:37:41 Yeah, AMC. That's Mad Men and everything. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Breaking Bad is on AMC, I think. I don't know. You're right. You're absolutely right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:47 You're going to cut all this out, aren't you? No, I'm not. I'm not calling Zeddy. He'll make me sound good. He'll make me say, I know everything about AMC. Oh, he's good. I'll say that up top of the show. Nice, nice.
Starting point is 00:37:59 So that means the VOD titles become VOD for $19.99 and AMC then get a 10% split of that. Okay. But first they go to theatres. But it's the option of 17 days. Okay, right. It doesn't have to be 17 days. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:12 So like if they want Fast and Furious to run for four months or whatever, they can do that. Yeah, right. The thing is the other movie chains and other companies like Disney and whatever are not happy with this because they're like, you're shortening the release window on these things, like Disney and whatever, are not happy with this because they're like, you're shortening the release window on these things,
Starting point is 00:38:30 which means that the other chains would have to then agree to also that 17-day window. Oh, it's like a race to the bottom kind of thing. Yeah, right. And I don't think that they would, which would mean that I guess AMC would be the only people who could have these movies in theatres, I assume. Intriguing. Okay. But it's just universal.
Starting point is 00:38:44 This isn't, yeah. Yeah, it's just universal. So it's just dark universe movies. Yeah, I assume. Intriguing. Okay. But it's just universal. This isn't, yeah. Yeah, it's just universal. So it's just dark universe movies. Yeah, pretty much. So it's not a lot of other things, but it's not a great, I mean, it's good for like us, say, for example, because you get things quicker, but it's a horrible business model for everybody else. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Because also theatres rely so much on food. Yeah, that's true. And everything else. In fact, everyone relies a lot on food. I rely on it every day. I have some food. That's right. Some to none.
Starting point is 00:39:07 But I mean, you know, look, fingers crossed, this isn't the end of, you know, this isn't forever. So fingers crossed, whatever arrangement this will be, will be easing up sooner rather than later. If it even is possible. Because it seems like at the moment it's an option. It's not like a- Yeah, you must do this.
Starting point is 00:39:24 But things aren't getting better. So I think people are just looking the ways to make money. But if you look also like it would be understandable that Disney and other companies like WarnerMedia and whatever, they don't want this because they have their own streaming platforms. So if they didn't want to release something in cinemas, they have the option to put it out on this huge platform. That's true, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:45 And so, but I guess Universal don't really have that. I mean, they have Peacock, I think. They have NBC's Peacock. Yeah, but nobody has that. Do you know what I mean? So they need. Well, they will as soon as we get David Schwimmer is a spy or a politician or whatever that show is that's coming out
Starting point is 00:39:59 that we did an ad for. We did an ad for that show. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so, yeah, I don't know. I think it's the most interesting thing to me is going to be what the release day window is going to look like because it used to be so long before somebody came to vhs when we were kids it was like eight months and now it's like and then you know to rent it for a night it would cost a disorbent amount of money i remember um but yeah i don't. These windows are getting shorter and shorter.
Starting point is 00:40:26 The movie theatre landscape will evolve. We just don't know what it's going to look like at the moment. Yeah. And it looks like, I don't know what's going to happen with Tenet either. It looks like in Victoria we're going down to even more lockdowns here. That's true. So I hope not, but probably. Maybe somebody can smuggle out a cam for us and we can watch it.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Please. Yeah. Make our own popcorn at home. Make our own popcorn. It's not the same, but we'll do it. No, it's absolutely, yeah, it's true. We'll do it if we have to. We'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:40:50 That's right. Yeah. Look, maybe VOD will go down to like, you know, Blockbuster in its last days. Well, they'll be like, you want eight movies for eight bucks? Yeah. You want eight weeklies? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:41:02 We'll do it. It might be. I know, I just think these streaming services, there is a saturation point for it, isn't there? Yeah. It really is. Like you mentioned Mythic Quest. I'm like, I still haven't got Apple TV. Do I want to get Apple TV?
Starting point is 00:41:13 But the only reason I have it is because I got a new phone. Oh, and they give it to you for free. You get it free for you. But then I see like Tom Hanks' Greyhound. And I'm like, I'm literally never going to watch that in my entire life. But then I saw like- Is that another, he's a ship captain? He's a ship captain for America.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Nice. The World War II. Nice. Look at our Jerrys. You know? Yeah, yeah, I know. Yeah, Jerrys have to watch out. Yeah, apparently it's fine from all accounts.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Okay, good. But then there was Finding Jacob on there, which I really liked. Yeah, right. That Chris Evans one. Okay, Star Wars news? Yeah, please. I like this new enthusiastic Star Wars news guy. For now.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Yeah, you can definitely push through into hating it again. Yeah, yeah, definitely. That's a cycle, isn't it? Ron Howard says there's no solo sequel planned. Oh. What do you think of that? Well, that frees him up to be in the potential Lando series. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Have him pop in every once in a while. But also there was rumours this week of like there's this Lando series, there's a Solo spin-off series. And Ron Howard was talking about how it's kind of fun to be the director of this kind of cult Star Wars hit, which is what Solo has kind of become. Yeah, right. It does have this fan base. I don't love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:17 But not to say that I wouldn't see a sequel series to this. What if we get a Lando series and Han Solo's the sidekick? Yeah. People would be so upset. Would they though? I think a lot of people would be upset. I think people would like. People would be very upset, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:29 I don't know if they, yeah, you're probably right. Everyone's upset. Sometimes when something like that happens and I think no one would care. Yeah. But then I'm like, oh no, everyone cares about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I misjudged this. Like, can you imagine it's Lando front and center on the poster.
Starting point is 00:42:44 I know Lando. Han Solo's at the side. Yeah. I would like it. I would enjoy it very much. And it's Lando front and centre on the poster? I know Lando. Han Solo's at the side. Yeah. I would like it. I would enjoy it very much. And it's the back of his head. He's not even facing the camera. And he's Lando's butler because he's been sentenced to be Lando's butler
Starting point is 00:42:53 because of his crimes. Fair enough. Yeah. So in other news, though, the Obi-Wan series is apparently casting a young Luke and Leia, 80 years old. Oh. So there you go. What do you think of that?
Starting point is 00:43:04 Yep. Yeah, you do. That's what you think. Yeah, yeah. That. Oh. So there you go. What do you think of that? Yep. Yeah, you do. That's what you think. Yeah, yeah. That's cool. So they'd be on separate planets though, right? Yes. She'd be on, yeah, they'd be on different things.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Okay, good. Just checking, yeah. Just checking, yeah. You think they'd give her the hair? Because you have to. Otherwise you don't recognise her. Yeah, probably, yeah. That's how it works.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Everybody has the same haircut their entire life. That's true. Yeah had other haircuts didn't she yeah braids as well in other movies because she could also just wear you know the the just the white it's just white dresses all day it's it absolutely is yeah yeah belt maybe and then little luke will be wearing the jake lloyd's outfit from phantom menace but you don't think he's recycle that no i think he'd be wearing the little moisture farmer outfit that he had in the first Star Wars. Aren't they the same? Aren't they basically the same?
Starting point is 00:43:50 No, it's like a billowy blousey kind of white shirt. Oh, yeah, no. Of course. Look, there'll be plenty of billowy blouses. How are his whites so white? How does that work? Good question. I mean, I know he's the hero, but he's a dead man.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Oh, that reminds me. This is completely unrelated, but a couple of weeks ago, I think I mentioned that Eddie Peppertone's stand-up special is on amazon yeah yeah for the masses did you watch it yeah it's really good it's very funny but it's got my favorite eddie peppertone sketch uh bit of all time which is called how how you how'd you keep the shirt so fresh and it's just people should it's at the end people should watch it just okay just get to that does he throw it as in in his like a here you go kind of like this is my bit no i think it's just a i don't know it's just just part of his just part of it came out here yeah he did yeah you go, kind of like this is my bit. No, I think it's just a, I don't know, it's just part of his set.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Did he do that when he came out here? Yeah, he did, yeah. So it's kind of an old one, but it's kind of, it's always relevant. Okay, good, good, good. It's very grim, but it's good. But how do they keep the shirt so fresh on Tatooine? They don't even have that much water. They must wash it in sand.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Perfect. Thanks. Maybe you put it in a sarlacc. How do you get it out? Fishing roll. Yeah, a bit of string. You put it in there and it's acids. Yeah. Keep you put it in a sarlacc. How do you get it out? A fishing rod. Yeah, a bit of string. You put it in there and it's acids. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Keep your shirts so fresh. Okay. Is that how Boba Fett got out? Yes. He pulled out all the string. He waited. He waited for somebody to do a load of whites and he just grabbed onto them and then he got out of there.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Yeah. He looked so fresh when he came out. So fresh. So crisp. Yeah. Well, that was the original Boba Fett had a white armor. I don't know if you've ever seen like the prototype. Oh, no, I don't think I crisp. Yeah. Well, that was the original Boba Fett had a wide armour. I don't know if you've ever seen like the prototype. Oh, no, I don't think I have.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Yeah. Never even mind or worry about it. Variety and Listen First. Here's some numbers. Here's a side note for you. I love side notes. You know the guy that did all the Star Wars art? Ralph McQuarrie.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Thank you. Did he do stuff for any other franchises? Yeah, he did. I can't remember what, but yes. What's that movie that was meant to be a Star Wars competitor, The Black Hole? Which one? There was like that one that was like The Magnificent Seven, but it was space.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Oh, yes. The Magnificent Seven. Yes, that's right. Yeah, he did E.T. Here we go. He got a bunch of Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek, a bunch of stuff. Well, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, so did E.T. Here we go. He got a bunch of Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek, a bunch of stuff. Well, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, so there you go. I'm glad he did.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Me too. Because he does good work, that guy. I hear he did. Yeah, he does, doesn't he? Mm-hmm. Did. He worked on the prequels as well. So, yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Oh, do you want the filmography? I could do it for you if you want just quickly. Rafa Khori. Yeah. Go ahead. Back to the Future, The Ride, Nightbreed, Batteries Not Included. I like Nightbreed. That was weird. For the Voyage Home, Cocoon, Return of the Jedi, E.T to the Future, The Ride, Nightbreed, Batteries Not Included. I like Nightbreed. That was weird. For the Voyage Home, Cocoon, Return of the Jedi, E.T., Raiders, Empire, Holiday Special.
Starting point is 00:46:11 That's right. There is a picture in there. Battlestar Galactica 1978, Close Encounters, and the original Star Wars. That's big stuff. Big names. Big stuff. Big names. Anyway, Variety.
Starting point is 00:46:19 And listen first. They're talking about Comic-Con and how it performed in 2020. Okay. Comic-Con tweets are down 95% from 2019. Oh, so this is, I guess you can't really get viewership numbers for this really. Actually, I can. Oh, somebody's ahead of the curve. But yeah, I guess a lot of the success of Comic-Con is people putting out, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:39 tweets of like, I'm here and I'm wearing a backpack and I'm in a line. Woo. And that's how they kind of. That's how they kind of. That's Comic-Con. And it's also like a lot of the entertainment reporters you'd follow, they're live tweeting the Batman Superman panel or whatever. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:46:49 I don't know about you, but I'm like watching the feed to see what's going to happen next. There's a new Alfred. He's here. Yay! Exactly. It's Andy Serkis. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Yeah. So last year it was 1,719,000 tweets about Comic-Con, and this year there was 93,681. And the average YouTube view for their panels was 15,000. That seems low. It's very low. That seems equivalent to the number of people who would be in that theatre at the time. Yeah, well, that's the thing, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:47:21 Probably, no, more. It's true. I mean, you also need to look at it from, it's an unfair comparison because of the reveals that they were able to have. And I think there were some really good panels, but there were no reveals. There wasn't the hype. A lot of people didn't even know it was on.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Yeah. I mean, it's just not, it's kind of unfair to look at these two things like that. For sure, yeah. But that's how it kind of went. In the terms of Comic-Con. That's right. Are you going to Comic-Con next year?
Starting point is 00:47:48 Yeah, I'm loving it. Comic-Con new virus? See what the new virus is next year? I don't want there to be a new virus. There might be, though. No, I don't want that. We're not even finished with this one yet. Can't we at least finish our current virus?
Starting point is 00:47:57 Please. Will we get a new virus? Sooner rather than later. I don't want two viruses running at the same time. I'm actually against that. Apparently flu's down this year, though, big time. That's good. Take that, flu. Yeah, that's right. Watch me get the flu time. I'm actually against that. Apparently flu's down this year though, big time. That's good. Take that flu.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Yeah, that's right. Watch me get the flu now that I've said that. He's literally getting the flu as we speak. Look at him. He's just, yeah, he's getting, he's clogging up. I'm wearing down, yeah. Just before we do the thing for this week, yeah, Caravan of Garbage is back this week.
Starting point is 00:48:20 We are sticking with Transformers. That's true, yeah. We've decided to push through. That's right. Well, people decided that we pushed through. That's true, yeah. We've decided to push through. That's right. Well, people decided that we pushed through. That's more accurate, yes. If you go to bigsandwich.co, it's going to be up there early, maybe even earlier than normal early because Ben says he's quite ahead.
Starting point is 00:48:35 But then again, things happen and maybe he won't be ahead ahead but it will still be ahead. Sometimes life gets in the way. That's right, like a big second virus. James, no. I'm not going to get the flu. That's right. Like a big second virus. James, no. I'm not going to get the flu. I'm getting it right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:49 In fact, as you said that, I could see flu molecules go into your mouth. Good gravy. Any big proclamations about whether or not you're going to get a flu, just draw in more. Yeah, that's true. Anyway, we're going to do, look, a little preview for the listeners of the podcast because you're all better than the viewers who watch it on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:49:07 What a bag of shit. Exactly. Little peek behind the curtain. That's what we think. We're going to do Transformers 4. We're going to do The Last Knight. And we're not going to do Bumblebee because we talked about it on this podcast at length and also it's better than the other ones.
Starting point is 00:49:23 So it's the movie that they should have been, all the others should have been. I need a break. Yeah. What are we going to say? It's nice that they all look like they were supposed to look like originally. I don't think it's a perfect film, but it makes me so angry at the start of that movie of Bumblebee,
Starting point is 00:49:38 that five minutes on Cybertron. I remember sitting in theatres and just being like, are you fucking kidding me? Like we could have had this the entire time. Yeah, right. And you've given us, oh God. Yeah, anyway, for another time. For another time.
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Starting point is 00:52:10 And let's move on. Not currently. No, I know, but there are T-shirts for sale in life. I was going to say, surely somebody's got some T-shirts for sale. Yeah, we can make that happen, obviously. But specifically, a friend of the show, Christopher Small, who people might know on Instagram or Twitter as at Weekly Planet Posters. That's right.
Starting point is 00:52:25 On Instagram, he's Weekly Planet Posters, and he works tirelessly to make realistic-looking posters of terrible movies that we invent or of real movies that we don't remember the name of and just say whatever, and then he turns them into real posters. He'll do a real art attack in that way. Yeah, exactly. I get that reference now. You explained it so vocatively.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Don't get it. You're not one of us. Oh, man. This is a real art attack on me. I'm gatekeeping the art attack. Good stuff. Anyway, he's got a new T-shirt. He purchased a T-shirt.
Starting point is 00:52:59 He's wearing it right now. Wow. But also he's got T-shirts for sale. If you go to his Instagram profile, weekly planet posters, he made some robot, a bat and bat t-shirts in the style of your 1960s Batman t-shirt. And they look real nice. You can get a,
Starting point is 00:53:13 you get a regular one. You can get a distressed logo version. Yes. They're on, I think they're on T they're on T public, but if you go to his Instagram page, you click, there'll be the link in his bio.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Money doesn't go to us. It goes to him. Just so you know, we're not like, Hey, he made this thing and we've got it. Yeah. So, yeah, check it out if you want. They're really good.
Starting point is 00:53:31 I think I'll try and get one of those. Excellent. Thank you. And you'd be supporting good T-shirts everywhere, wouldn't you? That's right. Terrific. Umbrella Academy, season two. We'll do some non-spoilers, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:43 there'll be some elements that we'll have to talk about because there was a big cliffhanger at the end of the last season. Did you watch the last season? Yeah. You did? Okay. Did you? Yeah. We did an episode on it with Charles Clausen.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Did we talk about it? Charles Clausen came. I feel like we didn't talk about it at as much length as we could have. Okay. But we'll really dig in on this. Do you want to recap then the last season? Oh, my God. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:00 So, James. Ready? James. Here's the thing, though, also. I'd like to recap it for people, but I feel like straight off the bat, if you haven't seen the first season of this, I feel like the second season will make little to no sense. It would not even bother.
Starting point is 00:54:15 You'd be completely lost. I think if you're like, oh, I've heard about this, I've heard it's good, you should start from the start. Yes. But basically there are, in the late 80s on a single day, a bunch of children were all born at exactly the same time around the world, like the same moment from women who were not pregnant initially. They just became pregnant straight away and gave birth to these children.
Starting point is 00:54:33 And there was an eccentric billionaire who went around the world and purchased as many of these children as he could. And he gets seven of them? Something like that. He gets seven of them. And then they all begin to exhibit strange powers, and he is a horrible, cruel, mean man, and rather than giving them names, he just gives them numbers according to their usefulness to him,
Starting point is 00:54:54 and he sort of builds them up together as like a junior superhero team called the Umbrella Academy. A little X-Men team. A little X-Men kind of team. And then they all grow up, and they all leave because he's horrible, and they don't get along, then he dies and then in season one they all reconvene for his funeral and then they all have to do world-saving stuff.
Starting point is 00:55:12 But they don't. They don't, yeah. Because the world ends at the end. Spoilers for season one of that. So it's building to this apocalypse. Yes. It's got great performances. Everybody's really good in it.
Starting point is 00:55:23 I think so too, yeah. It's cast really, really well. Some are fun, some are mean. One's a big gorilla. One's a great performances. Everybody's really good in it. I think so too, yeah. It's cast really, really well. Some are fun, some are mean. One's a big gorilla. One's a small child. That's right. I keep forgetting he's a child. It's so bizarre because he's so convincingly an old man.
Starting point is 00:55:35 I assume he's slightly older than that. I think he's like 18. Okay, because he's supposed to be 13 in the show. Yeah. One of the characters, for people who don't know, they all exhibit strange powers. I was 16, sorry. He's not that old. What's his name? Aidan something? His name's Aidan Gallagher. Yeah. One of the characters, for people who don't know, they all exhibit strange powers. He's 16, sorry. He's not that old.
Starting point is 00:55:47 What's his name, Aidan something? His name's Aidan Gallagher. Okay. So one of the characters, he has the ability to travel through space like he can teleport and he attempts a number of times to travel through time and through various machinations he's ended up stuck in his 13-year-old self's body. Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:04 He became an old man but then he sort of revert the time the time travel has reverted him back to being a 13 year old but yeah he does i keep forgetting he's he is an actual child actor because he acts like an old man yeah it's weird they're all in real life the actors i'm just looking they're all born around the same time as well except for the child yeah right they're all yeah they're all like early 30s 31 alan page might be the oldest at like yeah right they've attempt they attempted to avert uh a this this apocalypse but they've managed to go back in time to the uh 1960 early 1960s
Starting point is 00:56:37 i just say avert yes it averted yeah okay yeah and they've brought but they've brought they've somehow brought some kind of apocalypse with them because they've, number five, the time travel kid, has seen slightly further into the future than them and he's discovered that there's going to be, the timeline's ruined and the world's going to end very soon. And they've got to band together through. And it's like, is it their fault? Is there somebody else there doing this?
Starting point is 00:57:03 And, of course, there is this Time Police Society, like Time Cop. The Commission, yes. Their job is to write the timeline and maybe eliminate anything that kind of breaks from it. That being said, it's corrupt. It's corrupt so we don't know what's even supposed to be. Yeah, we don't know. In the previous season, this apocalypse that was approaching,
Starting point is 00:57:24 it was considered to be inevitable. Yeah. They're like, well, it's going to happen, so you cannot, don't attempt to avert this because you'll ruin the timeline. And in this season, they're like, yeah, well, you know, it's a grey area kind of thing. Yeah, whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:34 They are very clearly self-serving. Yes, exactly. In all of that. But, yeah, so. So this show is wild. It's absolutely. It's out of its mind, mate, in a good way. It did take me a bit, even though I watched the recap,
Starting point is 00:57:48 it did take me a bit to be like, who's who and what's what again? And then I'm like, oh, yeah, that guy's dead. I forgot that he's a ghost. But that's a good pairing off, those two, the ghost and the regular man. Yeah, so we have Klaus who can commune with the dead and the one member of the Umbrella Academy who died as a child, who is still Ben, who is still alive.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Well, he's a spirit now, and they have to team up. So what we have here is we have, the series starts out, they've all arrived in Dallas, Texas in the early 60s, but all in slightly different years. Yes. A couple arrive in 1960, 1961, 1962.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Yes. And so they're all kind of on their own for a significant amount. They all wonder if the others are dead and they try and find it, but of course the others haven't arrived yet and so it's kind of this, it's a real schmuzzle as they would call it. It's also, it's in a period of time where the people that they are do not fit that era. Yes, exactly, yes. They get involved of time where the people that they are do not fit that era. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:58:45 They get involved with various movements and things that are going on. And obviously Alan Page's character is a gay character, which contradicts like a lot of the values that were at the time. And I found a lot of the best story beats for me were putting somebody from the modern day in that era and then butting heads with that. But also being not being able to, you can't even explain yourself and reason your way through it. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:06 No, that's true. It's interesting because some of the, like we've got some very serious plot threads rolling through this and some very serious issues covered, but there's also some wacky. Yeah. And some characters sort of ride the line between serious and wacky. Totally. Like Klaus and Ben's story is pretty much wacky the whole way through.
Starting point is 00:59:26 He's built himself into this, I guess like a nice Charles Manson, I guess would be the way to. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Is this cult figure who has some knowledge of the future and because he can commune with ghosts,
Starting point is 00:59:36 he could make them lift him so he can float and stuff. So they think it's essentially Jesus. And so, and Alison Hargreaves, Amy Raver Lampin, she's, you know, she's black.
Starting point is 00:59:44 And so she gets involved in this early civil rights, civil rights movement. And that's, and so, and Alison Hargreaves, uh, Amy Rae Verlampen, she's, you know, she's black. And so she gets involved in this early civil rights, civil rights movement. And that's, you know, very serious. And it covers, you know, actual real life events.
Starting point is 00:59:53 And, you know, she has, she's on, she's sort of like sort of writing the line of, well, what can I affect in the real world? Is this going to ruin the timeline kind of thing?
Starting point is 01:00:01 And so that's quite serious, but then in sort of the middle, you get kind of number five, the time traveller who's like he has to avert the apocalypse but there's also a lot of – there's some willy-nilly murder. Yeah, absolutely. Which is played for laughs kind of thing. Yeah, he murders like at one point like 20 people in a boardroom.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Yeah, so. Things like that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and exactly. There's also – Diego's like – well, I mentioned it. He's like Batman essentially. Yes, exactly, yeah. He's like a crap version of Batman. Exactly, yeah. Yeah. And, yeah, and exactly. And, you know. There's also, Diego's like, well, they mentioned it. He's like Batman, essentially. Yes, exactly, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:27 He's like a crap version of Batman. Exactly, yeah. And he's, you know, he's kind of got a, does he have the rawest deal in terms of powers? Maybe bending knives and stuff. Yeah. What number is he supposed to be? He's quite, he's like number three. Yeah, but he's a good assassin.
Starting point is 01:00:40 I think that's why they. Oh, okay, right, right, right. They like him. But I wouldn't say, like, beingrilla man isn't great, is it? No. And we really don't because, again, they're numbered according to usefulness but we don't really know what Reginald Hargreeves' metric for that is.
Starting point is 01:00:55 No, exactly. It might even be compliance. Exactly. And, again, he is a billionaire, adventurer, genius sort of thing. We don't know. Like he might have even ordered them in a way to cause the most trouble, the most discontent amongst them. Like, why are you number one?
Starting point is 01:01:13 Or even to get the most out of them or to protect some of them maybe. Yeah, right. Because the Alan Page character, Vanya, she is easily the most dangerous, which we find out in the first season. Yeah. But he doesn't let her go on missions and do things. And it seems to be because he's aware of what she can do and he doesn't want that to destroy the world.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Yes. Essentially, yeah. But it's, yeah, I really liked this season. I thought it was really fun. And I think it's at least as good as the first season. I think it might be better than the first season. Oh, there you go, Mason. So the first season, if you recall, in the first episode,
Starting point is 01:01:51 there's a moment where I think a lot of people were like, this show is not for me. There's a scene where they all get together in the house and they all dance to the same song but they're all separate. Do you remember that? I think Charlie Clawson was also not a fan of that. Yeah, right. A lot of people were like, I cannot get on board with this show yeah but uh i'm not but i'm like i like this i like every
Starting point is 01:02:09 aspect of this i don't even a moment in this that's like that either no yeah there's a little bit of a dance sequence in the hairdressers oh yeah fair enough yeah yeah okay yeah yeah i think also it's it's a very good looking show yes in terms of like when you're making a a period piece it's you got to do everything it's all the locations there's all the cards it's all the clothes it's it's a very difficult thing to do and on top of that there's a lot of special effects elements in this which are the the ape there's a chimpanzee that returns yes it's looks like one you'd see in a movie it's it's that good it's primo and it's not in it much because it's
Starting point is 01:02:45 probably very expensive yes that's true yeah to do but i thought i found it kind of blew me away how good this show looks in at points there was one point where there's luther the ape one yes he is he breaks through a wall and you see his face through a wall uh-huh and then he's looking out that's like there was one bit when i'm like oh that doesn't look great but there's literally every other moment there's a moment where like a dam, like all the water is like lifted out of it. There's some incredible stuff in this show. I wonder though, do you think jumping from the first season, which was about averting the apocalypse, just being, I didn't mind this,
Starting point is 01:03:17 but do you think people might be like, oh, they're just doing the same thing. It's just apocalypse averting again. Oh, good question. But I mean, that's every superhero movie slash TV series. Like it's always the apocalypse. Not always, but, yeah, I see what you're saying. Setting up for season three, maybe not as much. Yeah, I could see that could be a problem.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Yeah, but I also feel like this also feels like a continuation. It's very much like an immediate continuation of the first season. So, in a way, it's the same story. Well, they say it's like 14 days or something that immediate continuation of the first season. So in a way it's the same story. What did they say? It's like 14 days or something that had passed since the first season? Yeah. Time travelling? I think so, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Yeah, the little kid one who was an old man. Because they meet another version of him and he's like 14 days older. Oh, yes, yes, yes, that's right. Yeah. I mean, I guess it's the same with like the Terminator franchise as well. It's constantly about averting the apocalypse. There is no Terminator franchise about where do you get a different like hat from.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Sure, yes. You want to see that movie? To disguise. Yeah, no, absolutely. Pulls the hat down. I can't see. Okay, right. Gotcha, yes.
Starting point is 01:04:15 You get it. Yeah, I get things. Sure. Do you want to talk a little bit about spoilers? Let's do some spoilers, yeah. I want to say best series ever. I'm enjoying it a lot. I think, again, if you're locked down and you're like,
Starting point is 01:04:25 if you're locked down and you've hit – you're at Netflix paralysis where you're just flicking and flicking and flicking and you don't – and you can't stop on anything because it'll start playing a preview and you don't want to see the preview. You don't want to. You just keep using that remote. Stop on the Umbrella Academy if you haven't watched it. Start from season one.
Starting point is 01:04:41 It's a good, enjoyable show, I think. Work your way through. Anyway, stop listening now because we're going to do a lot more spoilers, I think. Stop listening now. I mean, come back later. Watch every episode of the Umbrella Academy and come back. There are time codes. So a big reveal in this, which I'm not up to in the comics,
Starting point is 01:04:55 so I didn't realise. Yes. The dad is an alien. Reginald Hargraves, yes. That's right. What's the story behind that in the comics? I'm not up to that yet. Is he nefarious or not?
Starting point is 01:05:03 Or is that a spoiler for upcoming seasons? No, I think he's one of the good guys yeah i think he's a research guy okay just a scientist yeah okay right yeah there's a moment where he pulls off his rubber mask and attacks with people which i quite into and it was kind of it was for me it was like throughout this whole show it's like what is fucking with this guy yeah right and then it's like oh okay that makes a lot of sense. Right. Oh, everything, yeah, everything is clear now. Definitely, yeah. This isn't a spoiler as well, I guess, but I meant to mention it earlier,
Starting point is 01:05:35 but there's a fish character in this. Yes. It's a man. He's got a human body, but his head is a fishbowl with a fish in it and the fish talks and swims around. Yes, and smokes. And it smokes. And just looking at that, I'm like, God, that's a good effect and a good design yeah yeah was that in the first season i don't even know he was not he's new okay he's he's the so kate walsh plays the handler and and
Starting point is 01:05:55 he is a replacement yeah right so he wasn't even like a board member in the previous i think so no i remember saying i think i i feel we'd remember Fishbowl Man. Yeah. But that is such a classic sort of 1950s, 1960s sci-fi. It feels like a Hellboy Shape of Water kind of thing as well, doesn't it? Which I quite enjoyed. But yeah, so at the end of the series, they're then back to the modern day. Well, they skip ahead past the apocalypse. Yeah, yeah. And that's from there you see that the brother who died is actually alive in a different timeline.
Starting point is 01:06:23 And the father i guess maybe didn't adopt them it's you don't really see what's exactly going on but it seems like the next season isn't going to be setting up for another apocalypse no situation necessarily but also that guy is aware of them because they kept confronting him in the past in the 60s so he knows who they are and clearly based on him knowing who they are he's made some deliberate changes in the past, in the 60s, so he knows who they are. And clearly based on him knowing who they are, he's made some deliberate changes in the timeline. Yes, that's right. To make things slightly different in the modern day.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Also, he might not even be properly dead in any timelines because he is an alien. So it's like, is he even dead in any of these? Well, see, that's exactly it. The only questions that sort of arose, like, again, they do seem to be playing kind of fast and loose with the time travel rules. And who knows, maybe the laws of physics around time travel
Starting point is 01:07:13 can change or whatever. Like there's a moment where Five is like, okay, I'm going to find my previous self and get a time travel briefcase because he'll have one on him because he's still working for the commission at this point. And I'm like, well, what would happen if you take it from him? Yeah. Isn't he stranded in time forever then?
Starting point is 01:07:29 Yeah, exactly. So do you come back and give it to him or what? Yeah. Or does the commission come and give him another briefcase? Yeah. Like, you know, where does it all lead, James? Yeah, exactly. And the way that they end things up with that guy is they kind
Starting point is 01:07:41 of push him through to the start of five story in season one but that wouldn't things would never they've messed with it too much where where they are they shouldn't be in the timeline yeah right changes that they've made to their own past yes as a result of this series but i think maybe it's that avengers style timeline where it's every timeline is a slightly different dimension so maybe that's the way it works are we getting a season three? I wonder. I would say almost certainly. And then they'll cancel it.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Yeah. Cool. Well, there's four seasons of the, there's four volumes. I don't wait. Volume four is now yet. So there you go.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Okay. So we've, we've got, we've got hotel oblivion is the next one. So we've got three seasons, I guess, of the, or additions. Is it a volume a season?
Starting point is 01:08:24 I think Dallas was a lot shorter. Yeah, right. So I don't know. Yeah. Hmm. I noticed looking at this as well, there's a real look to these modern comic book TV shows. I feel like this and Watchmen and The Boys. And Doom Patrol.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Doom Patrol. They have a look. Do you know what I'm talking about? I do. I know whether it's the hyper color saturated. Yeah. Maybe. I like it. Yeah. Maybe I like it.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Yeah. But do you feel like a lot of these are becoming quite uniform in the way that they present? I wouldn't say uniform, but I think you're right about the color and the, yeah, like Doom Patrol definitely has that look as well. I should watch Doom Patrol. I don't know what the, I don't know what the deal is. I don't know why. Maybe it's just the way things are.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Just a stylish thing. I think maybe it's, you know, it's. Cause I think everything was like CW arrow supernatural looking gray and dark. Yeah. I think maybe it's, you know, it's. Because I think everything was like CW Arrow, supernatural looking, grey and dark. Yeah, I think. And we've kind of come into this. My guess is that they're like, okay, we want to differentiate these from regular dramas.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Yes. So let's give it a bit of. A bit of pizzazz. A little bit of pizzazz. What's Doom Patrol on here at the moment? I've got no idea. Could I just purchase it on various platforms? Let's check Just Watch.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Oh, check Just Watch. Check JustWatch.net. Probably not, though. Yeah. I don't think it's on Netflix at the moment. If anything, it's probably on Binge. What's Binge? Rupert Murdoch. Ugh.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Yeah. Did you see that James Murdoch left the Murdochs? Wow, that's really going to change a lot, isn't it? What a brave man. What a brave man. That's what I'm saying. To just leave a horrible company with all you'll have is your millions or possibly billions of dollars.
Starting point is 01:09:49 I mean, good on you. Thank you, Mason. It's on Binge. It is on Binge. You can buy it on Apple TV, Apple Plus TV. Okay, well, I'll do that. I'll purchase it somewhere. It'll be somewhere else.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Very good stuff. So, yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's hard to talk about TV shows. I find it very easy to talk about TV shows. I just finished 10 episodes of it. Yes. In addition to playing an upcoming video game. What is it?
Starting point is 01:10:11 Who knows? But I should have taken more notes because during I'm like, oh, that's an interesting choice. Oh, that character did. And then I only took a handful of notes and I feel like I should have. But what I do enjoy about this is, one, it's been such a long time since I've read The Umbrella Academy that I'm not really ahead of what's going to enjoy about this is, one, it's been such a long time since I've read The Umbrella Academy that I'm not really ahead
Starting point is 01:10:27 of what's going to happen in this show, which is nice. Yes. And also they don't seem to be afraid of making changes as well. Yeah, right. They're like, okay, well, let's introduce new characters or put some different. Do you know how much, say, Gerard Way, the creator of, has in this series?
Starting point is 01:10:44 I don't know at all all I don't know that either there you go it only came out last year February last year was the first season so I'd imagine the next season will be pushed back yeah yeah I would say unless it's over a zoom meeting I mean it's modern day and they're all doing it's all I think we're alone now and they're all on
Starting point is 01:11:00 zoom but they're all on they don't realize that everybody yeah they think they've muted their video and their mic they all think it but that that's why they're a lot more similar than they think you know absolutely they are do you kind of wish that they are they actually cut off the guy's head and put him on an actual uh gorilla's body like in the comic book yeah kind of yeah that yeah i don't know i guess there's only strong before that yes yeah okay yeah so so yeah so his power set is basically the same as yeah look i can't i do wish that just because it's wackier but i understand the the the impulse is always i think
Starting point is 01:11:34 to like flatten it out a little bit for tv whatever it is you know starting speaking of x-men starting from x-men it's like we'll get just people will freak out if everything is wild all the time kind of thing. And if you're like, yeah, yeah. Also, it probably. Do you feel like this has been flattened out? Is that what you're saying? I mean, just really just that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Like this is pretty much as, I mean, other than Doom Patrol, this is pretty much the wackiest comic book adaptation on TV. Oh, The Boys is pretty. Yeah, that's okay. That's all right. You're already golden age of TV, James. I think so. When's The Boys coming out?
Starting point is 01:12:06 September? Yeah, it's going to be in a few weeks, yeah. A month or so. Nice, I'm excited for that. Me too. Yeah, look at that. I mean, that's it and I understand why they didn't do that. So he'd have to shave himself down every day.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Would he? Yeah, I mean, if he's doing those shirtless prize fighting... Oh, yeah, he would too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fair enough. It's also people would wonder about the neck. The neck, yeah. Geez, those prosthetics don's also people would wonder about the neck. The neck,
Starting point is 01:12:25 yeah. Jesus, prosthetics don't look very comfortable. Even though when he's got clothes on he still has to wear that muscle suit underneath.
Starting point is 01:12:30 it's true, yeah. Good on him. Yeah, I think also, just quickly, some other characters got more of an
Starting point is 01:12:36 interesting arc in this one. I think like Diego's story in particular. I don't even remember what the deal with
Starting point is 01:12:42 that character was in the first season but I think he did get some interesting fleshing out of his motivations and he gets his own love story as well. Yes, that's true.
Starting point is 01:12:50 I found it was really interesting. And also people are like, he's the dumb one, like essentially. Yes, that's true. I mean, he's not obviously dumb, but comparatively, like he's a hothead and he's- He's obsessed. He has obsessive tendencies. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Like you can see how his childhood, you know, his father always told him that he was a hero and that's imprinted on him in a bad way so now his whole goal is like well i'm in the past i must be here to stop the assassination of jfk because that's a big crime that happened and i'm a crime fighter so that's my goal here exactly i wonder if there's people who are like i don't buy the motivations of these characters that's something that i was thinking about when i watched this what do you think would be something that you'd well like i don't know like but i but i feel like again it's it it makes more sense when you realize that they you know their entire
Starting point is 01:13:31 childhoods were have been building up to this you know that's what i was thinking as well like i think all the motivations you can say are directly linked back to the way like i'm yeah like i'm sure there are people out there who are like why don't they just band together and figure this out very quickly? And what's like because they're – Because they hate each other. Because they hate each other, yeah. They barely tolerate each other most of the time and now they're in a bizarre situation
Starting point is 01:13:52 and a lot of them have been alone for years and they're – And it's also a situation where they're not – like they have things in common but they're not genetically related. So I'm sure that would also play a factor in, you know, the way that they interact and the different power sets that they have. And, you know, they're different. They're very individual in personalities and power-wise and genetically, you know, so I think that plays a factor too.
Starting point is 01:14:16 But, yeah, very much looking forward to season three whenever that comes out. I'd also like to not watch, like, five in a row and then five in a row, like I did for this. Yeah, right. But you've got to do a podcast. You've got and then five in a row like I did for this. Yeah, right. But you've got to do a podcast. You've got to do a podcast. Sometimes you've got to create. You've got to create.
Starting point is 01:14:30 You've got to create, Mason. You've got to create content for a podcast. Also, some wigs in this weren't great, I should point out as well. I didn't even think about the wigs. Blonde wigs, Mason, on the Swedes or whatever. Oh, I see, yeah. There's not as good blonde wigs in this. We didn't even mention the Swedes.
Starting point is 01:14:42 How do you feel about the Swedes? Oh, yeah, I'm not big on it because I feel like they're what, that was one thing I didn't love. There's always like a generic, who are these guys? Why are they coming to kill us kind of thing. I think like there was that in the first season and it's just a different variation on that. Like seeing an unnamed, like unspeaking Matrix-esque trio
Starting point is 01:15:01 or duo turn up to kill you. And you're like, who are these? What are these guys doing here? Like at least last season we had Hazel and Cha-Cha. And at least Hazel had a love story, you know, and he started sort of questioning his job and what he was doing there. And then we had the other side who was just like, no job's the job. You've got to, you know, we had that conflict building up.
Starting point is 01:15:18 With these guys it was just like we're just tired muscle and we don't talk and we're weird. Yeah, we throw knives at each other for fun. We cook in our underpants. We cook in our underpants. That's how you've got to do it. No, it's too much hot oil. Don't do it. Yeah, no we don't talk and we're weird. Yeah, we throw knives at each other for fun. We cook in our underpants. Yeah, cook in our underpants. Yeah. That's how you got to do it. No, it's too much hot oil.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Don't do it. Yeah, no, don't do it. All in all, Umbrella Academy? Is that our ranking system now? Yeah. Okay. What do you think? I think Umbrella Academy, you.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Great. What are you going to do about it? I'm not going to do anything. Okay, good. Should we do the next segment of the show? Yes. You know what it is? It's what we're reading and then what we're going to read.
Starting point is 01:15:46 That's exactly what it is. Yeah. It's a big week for Netflix. It is. Did you watch any of Transformers War for Cybertron? I have to put the theme song in first. Okay, right. Let me put the theme in.
Starting point is 01:15:53 I thought you would have snuck it in there. Let me say Westworld. Okay, right. Oh, that's right. You do it live now. Yeah. Okay. I'm doing the theme.
Starting point is 01:15:59 I'm doing the theme. What are we reading today? What are you Westworlding, Mason? Did you watch any of War for Cybertron? I watched the first one and a half. What did you think of it? I felt not compelling. I didn't love it. I've seen the reviews and people seem to be really enjoying it.
Starting point is 01:16:19 I watched about five, I think. Okay. And it looks great. It does look great. It's so good it's so like every panel of every transformer has you know a realistic texture a rustic finish rustic finish in a and a you know a scorch mark and uh and it looks good a scritch and a scratch it's got a scritch and also a scratch and the cybertron looks appropriately dirty,
Starting point is 01:16:45 but it's not. It's slow. It's a slow show. It's a slow show, yeah. And look, the first episode I felt was not promising. It was very slow and I pushed through and it moves along at a bit of a quicker pace. Okay. But it all feels like it does kind of feel like just an old school cartoon
Starting point is 01:17:04 with a really fresh lick of paint on it. Okay. But it all feels like, it does kind of feel like just an old school cartoon with a really fresh lick of paint on it. Okay. In the sense that it's, you know, there's a lot of standing and talking and then there's a brief action sequence and then there's the next episode. Yeah, okay. And it's, you know. So would you recommend me pushing through on it? Give it a couple more episodes, I think.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Because I didn't dislike it, but also, you know what I think it is? I'm watching it and I'm like, I'm watching so much Transformers at the moment and I'm watching bad Transformers. Oh, yes, yeah. Because I didn't dislike it. But also, you know what I think it is? I'm watching it and I'm like, I'm watching so much Transformers at the moment and I'm watching bad Transformers. Oh, yes, yeah. And I don't want to watch this right now. Yeah, fair enough. So that was part of it.
Starting point is 01:17:31 But I love the designs as well. I think they're really good. I like the voice cast. This guy called Jake Fusey is the new Optimus Prime. And he started as doing like on YouTube, be like, check out my Optimus Prime impersonation. Oh, really? But he's really good.
Starting point is 01:17:45 I can't remember who said this, but I remember someone saying it's all well and good to like, to be able to like copy a voice and do like an impression of Yoda. Yeah. But how do you do Optimus Prime saying a different thing and make it sound like Yoda? Like Yoda. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Exactly. Do you know what I mean? Like make it sound like Peter Carlin. Do you know what I mean? So it's, I think he does, I think the voice cast is really good. Yeah. Did you watch- Also, there's very little transforming.
Starting point is 01:18:08 Oh, right. Okay. I'm not that- Do you even remember any transforming? I don't. Optimus Prime, does he just come in and he is a truck? No, but he transforms into a truck. Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:18 I mean, do you see him transform into a truck? Yes. And Megatron is a tank in this. But it's like there's a lot of action sequences where they're all just huddled behind cover and just firing guns. Okay. Look, I know I've probably been poisoned by the Michael Bay Transformers, just endless spinning and shooting and transforming.
Starting point is 01:18:37 But give me a happy medium somewhere in the middle there, you know? That's why I felt it was like the old Transformers because they were cheap and like the old cartoons where they were kind of cheap and absolute minimum of any movement and animation because of that. But surely there's a lot of money involved in this. Well, maybe there isn't. Well, this is from Rooster Teeth, like Red vs. Blue, and they've done a bunch of other stuff on YouTube,
Starting point is 01:19:00 but now they make a lot of regular things and video games and stuff like that. The Hbomber guy recently did an episode on RWBY, which is their anime. Oh, R-W-B-Y, whatever that is? Yeah. So it's their anime-inspired action show. Okay. Without spoiling that video, it's like two and a half hours long. He goes through and talks about how it was made and why it's not great
Starting point is 01:19:20 and what it borrows from and what it gets wrong. And that's an original concept. And that's also from, yeah, and that's from Rooster Teeth. I mean, I'm not saying, I don't even think a lot of the people involved on that are involved in this. Okay. Maybe they are. But I just found that coincidental that these two things are linked
Starting point is 01:19:34 in that particular way. But yeah, I've never seen Ruby's side. But I watched the video and I'm like, this show seems insane. Okay, right. But what I did watch, I finished Avatar The Last Airbender. The whole thing? How many seasons of that? There's insane. Okay, right. But what I did watch. Yeah, go on. I finished Avatar The Last Airbender. The whole thing. How many seasons of that? There's three.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Okay. It's so great. I loved it so much. I'll watch it. You know what I want to do? Okay. You need to listen to me very clearly, Mason. I'm listening to you somewhat.
Starting point is 01:19:56 I want to record. You want to dress up as the characters? I do. I want to be Aang. I want to be a 30-year-old boy or whatever. I want to record a caravan ofbage on the Shyamalan movie. Okay. Me having seen the season, you not.
Starting point is 01:20:11 Oh, okay. Then we go back. You watch the season. Yep. We talk about the season, but then we release that one first. So we do that. Okay. And we do the movie, and then we do The Legend of Korra.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Okay, so I'm going to need to watch the movie first, the live-action movie, which everyone hates and agrees is terrible. But the reason I want that is because I want one of us to come as someone who knows the source material a little bit and someone who's never seen it. And you've never seen the movie? No. Okay, right.
Starting point is 01:20:43 So neither of us have seen the movie. Okay, this is exciting. Do you think that would be an interesting way to come at it? I think this is a very exciting experiment, yeah. And someone who's never seen it. And you've never seen the movie? No. Okay, right. So neither of us have seen the movie. Okay, this is exciting. Do you think that would be an interesting way to come at it? I think this is a very exciting experiment, yes. I mean, we could also both watch the series and do it that way. But these ones we might have to record. I like your cockamamie scheme. But I think these ones would have to record over a few months.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Yeah, right. Because watching it, it took me a month, maybe two, to get through the first season. Okay. Because you found it boring. No, I liked it a lot. That's what you were telling me. No, you said you found it boring. was so annoyed because i every week i'm
Starting point is 01:21:07 like i'm gonna sit down and watch a couple episodes and this i'm like i have to chip at this fucking transformers movie so that's to deal with my family but it's great it's so great without getting into specifics but again this show that's they're like 14 years old who everybody loves yeah it's it is really good. What a twist. One of the best shows I've watched in a long time as well. Just so great. And I just started Legend of Korra, which I undecided on,
Starting point is 01:21:34 because I'm like an episode in. But it's good so far. Anything else? No, that's about it. But also there's an episode of Transformers where the Autobots fall into a really obvious trap and they're like, oh, my God, this was a trap. Like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:49 It is. Why wouldn't it be a trap? Yeah. Okay. How's Ultra Magnus? He's very Ultra Magnus-y. That's good. Are they brothers in this continuity?
Starting point is 01:21:56 It doesn't seem that way, no. Yeah. But also. Are there any primes of old? Not so far, but I'm only like five in. I haven't seen Ultra Magnus transform yet. Oh, that's another criticism I have of it. Because people love this show, Mason.
Starting point is 01:22:10 So far, besides the Seekers, the Australian band, the Seekers, besides the Seekers like Starscream and et cetera, who don't transform into earth planes, they transform into like sort of triangular, pyramidal sort of shaped spaceships. Everybody else i've seen transform in this just sort of transforms into what is basically an earth truck yeah basically they're all a truck yeah give me some variety give me and maybe that's why they're not transforming as much because it's like well we have to design does look a lot like an earth truck yeah and hound who is a jeep in on earth pretty much just looks
Starting point is 01:22:43 like a jeep because if you look at the video games, which aren't related to this, like the design of Bumblebee, the car, is very distinct. Cybertronian, yeah. Which I like. Well, he hasn't transformed yet, but I imagine he's going to look a lot like a Volkswagen. Yes. Also.
Starting point is 01:22:57 There's 10 reviews and they're all very positive. Well, well. It says dark and gritty. It's not that dark or gritty. Fans glued to the screen. I wasn't glued to the screen. Compelling and splendid. None of those things. Certain scenes will rock the world of long time transformers maybe the ones episodes i haven't seen but you want to portray a lot of autobots versus decepticons
Starting point is 01:23:13 oh yeah actually that's interesting so but they were mates which is some of the yeah but also it seems like in this version of the continuity the decepticons were built as sort of a maybe like a worker race or something like that and the autobots will just just sipping their energy on just being like oh i don't know it doesn't affect me you know and then and then the revolution has happened uh also um there's a character whose name is spinister but the voice actor and that's what the and i'm watching it with subtitles called spinister but the voice actor's like, or Decepticon's checking in and he's like, Spinster checking in. And I'm like, so he's an unmarried older lady, is he?
Starting point is 01:23:51 Is that what's going on? We've only heard his name mentioned once. I don't know if he's coming back. That's terrific. I don't know. So I don't know. There's some weird missteps in it. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:02 Spinster sounds good. He's a great character. That's right. Should we get on with it then? Alright. Let's do the letters. I'll put in some letters. Here we go. I love letters. The classic one with...
Starting point is 01:24:13 Oh no. Oh no, James. What's happened? And they played an ad. What I was going to do there is I was going to be like, because you couldn't get your theme song to work. I was going to be like, well, I'll get my theme song to work and we'll all have a grand time, but I guess not. The classic one was letters, oh letters, we love you.
Starting point is 01:24:31 Some letters, they're only a take away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. Hello and welcome to the letters section of the show. Thank you. What letters we got? I feel welcomed. And by letters, we mean tweets. Thank you. What letters we got? I feel welcomed.
Starting point is 01:24:47 And by letters, we mean tweets. And emails sometimes, yeah. Hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter if you want to send me a tweeter. Or WeeklyPlanetPod at gmail.com. So do you want to start? Yeah, here's an email from Forrest Rogers. It says, five stars and a thumbs up. Just want to mention how much I appreciate your content. I frequently listen to your podcast while preparing meals from HelloFresh
Starting point is 01:25:06 thanks to their easy-to-follow step-by-step instructions and your podcast, the meal prep time just flies by. What a combination of things. Yeah, a combination of, yeah. It's making it happen. I don't know if he's being paid by HelloFresh. I don't know if listeners, if you're out there and you want to get a sponsorship for HelloFresh
Starting point is 01:25:22 where you email in to podcasts who are sponsored by HelloFresh and tell us how easy it is to make meals with HelloFresh, maybe that's a market in there. I don't know. Good for you. Terrific. But here's another one as well. This is from Alfonso Valcarcel.
Starting point is 01:25:40 It says, hot scoop or maybe potentially a shot of poop. Hey, James and Mason. I've got some red hot comic book news needs shooting up buttholes. A friend of mine who was in a local acting group here in Puerto Rico told me the group received a casting call from Marvel looking for a 12 to 15-year-old Latina actress for a leading role in a Marvel film. I was thinking it maybe could be America Chavez
Starting point is 01:25:59 given that canonically she is from Puerto Rico. But who knows? Either way, it would be pretty great to have a local actor be in a Marvel film. What series, though? Well, that's a good question. Maybe A-Force? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:09 Maybe Young Avengers? Could be Young Avengers. Well, that's the thing. I mean, given what we've had before, it could be, and the teams she's been on, it could be A-Force, Young Avengers. It could be The Ultimates, which is the team led by Black Panther and Captain Marvel and others.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Yes. Which I would like to see a lot, which is kind of like, you know, Cosmic Space Avengers. Yeah, absolutely. That would be really good. That would be good stuff. So it's definitely a Marvel property. It says cast and call from Marvel.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Yeah. It could be a television show like, you know, one of the ABC ones. It could be. It could be Hell ones. It could be Hellstrom. It could be Hellstrom, yeah. I still haven't watched that trailer. It's not exciting. I looked at it. I loved it. I haven't seen it. I've got a tweet here. Okay, go ahead. It's from JustJonathan.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. You've emailed him before, JustJonathan. I don't believe you. Okay, right. Would you like to see a sequel to the social network, perhaps largely focused on Zuck's court hearings regarding Facebook? Of the three, who was the most important to return to work on the sequel? Eisenberg, Sorkin, Fincher. Ooh, I think it's Fincher for me.
Starting point is 01:27:14 Yeah. But I think there's no reason why you shouldn't get all those guys back. Yeah, no, that's true. Yeah, I mean, there's no rule that says they can't. None of them have been legally prohibited from being in a movie. Did you see the Zuckerberg... The surfing photo? Yeah, Yeah, I mean, there's no rule that says they can't. None of them have been legally prohibited from being in a movie. Did you see the Zuckerberg surfing photo? Yeah, of course I did, yeah. What's he doing?
Starting point is 01:27:30 But, I mean, here's the thing, though, because if you look at Zuckerberg, he's gotten blander over the years. He has, hasn't he? Like something's happened to him, and I don't know what it is. I think maybe it's the pressure of Botox. Yeah, maybe. No, I don't think so. But I think it's just you go weird when you're a billionaire.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Like the hair and the face and the clothes. Something happens to your brain. It's like it blends into the wall. Or maybe you're always like this but you're allowed to. Because like maybe he had to pretend to be more human when he wasn't a billionaire. But now that he is, he can just be like, well, this is me. I don't like anything.
Starting point is 01:27:57 All I like is hoarding billions of dollars. That's all I do. I got famous. I ruined the world by making a site that rates women on campus. All I do is like looking at a number. Yeah. The number goes up and that is all I enjoy. That is a good thing.
Starting point is 01:28:10 But I don't know, like he's gotten blander. Yeah. You could just get a guy who looks like Jesse Eisenberg but blander and just be like he's gotten blander. Well, yeah, that's true because he certainly has personality, doesn't he, in the movie? Yeah, in the social network movie. I think that's such a good movie.
Starting point is 01:28:24 I'd love to see a follow-up to that, but I think you could look at it all involved in elections and there's so much you could do with it. And maybe you want to wait for another five years to see what happens. Well, I don't like the idea of, yeah, you make a movie all about that and what's happening to them? Well, they're still all billionaires. I've got to wait until they're all in jail. Is that what I'm saying? He's never going to jail.
Starting point is 01:28:47 No. Well, he'll end up in a bunker at some point. Oh, that's true. Yeah, which is like jail. His guards will kill him. Yeah, it's like jail, isn't it? Yeah, it is like jail. But he, I can't even remember what I was going to say.
Starting point is 01:28:56 Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg, yeah. That movie ends kind of sadly because he's like, oh, he still likes that girl or whatever. I don't think he does like that girl. No, you're right. I didn't think he cares about anything. I think he's a monster. No, James, he cares likes that girl or whatever. I don't think he does like that girl. No, you're right. I didn't think he cares about anything. I think he's a monster.
Starting point is 01:29:07 No, James, he cares about that number going up. Oh, yeah, and being president. Remember when he was going around to factories and meeting people because he was going around for president at one point? I love sitting around this pond slash lake. Do you remember the virtual tour he did of things where he went to, like, a flood-ravaged area and he was like a cartoon avatar? No.
Starting point is 01:29:24 He was like, look, now we're in this flood ravaged town and he's like this cartoon zuckerberg i don't remember that and you could be making it up but it could be very real so there's no definitely not it's we've reached that point in the world where anything could be real or a joke at this point so i mean we've got that facebook great mates group which is the only reason i go on facebook these days because my like personal Facebook timeline is fucking horrible. I hate it. It's awful. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:47 No, for sure. What do you think of yours? I hate it. Again, I would have deleted Facebook. Also, FYI, a lot of people do add me from Facebook. They're like, oh, it's my son. He's in the group. I should add him.
Starting point is 01:29:57 There's nothing on my Facebook page. I never change my avatar. I never add anything on. I never post a status or anything. You're not missing anything. You just get happy birthday messages every year from the same ten people. But I like the current situation, which is where I get less and less every year. Me too.
Starting point is 01:30:14 And one day I'm going to have one person I'm going to yell at them. There's also that guy that you've got as friends with on your Facebook who we don't know whether he's dead or not. Right. Because the only thing for the past 12 years, at least. Yeah. Is just birthday messages and nothing else.
Starting point is 01:30:29 And no response from him. You haven't heard anything about him. Have you from anybody? Nope. He could be dead. Yeah. That's fascinating. Anyway,
Starting point is 01:30:36 Facebook. Yeah. Uh, what are we talking about? Oh yeah. I'm in a local group as well. Like a, like a local community group,
Starting point is 01:30:42 which is mostly people like whose cat is this? Oh, wait, it's my cat. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, that's really good. Who took my newspaper off my front lawn? It was me. It was my wife later.
Starting point is 01:30:56 I figured it out. Sorry, everyone. Part of me wants to make a local ruckus and then just sit back and watch it unfold. Nothing, like, dangerous, but just do something truly bizarre. Yeah. I thought what you were going to say there was- Younger me was all about that.
Starting point is 01:31:09 You know I was about that. I thought you were going to say like a, yeah, it's true, you were a real firebrand. I thought you were going to say you were going to make like a rival local group. I think there is one already. But just make it weirder. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:19 You know? Yeah. Just make it like Welcome to Night Vale style where it starts out normal. It's like, hey, everybody, just, you know, some regular goings on in town. Just post up anything. And then it's like, did anybody notice the moon looked weird last night?
Starting point is 01:31:31 It looked like it had a hole in it. Stan, does anyone hear that noise? Does anyone hear that buzzing noise, those weird lights? What could I do to my local community? I have to think about it. Yeah. Support it. Support it, James.
Starting point is 01:31:43 Yeah, support it, obviously. But younger me, I would have had a great idea immediately. I don't have that anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All my ideas go into this. That's true, yeah. That's from Max Dobson. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:31:53 Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter, Mason. Since COVID has damaged the structure of the film industry with vast delays and cancellations, will there be a change of heart when the doors open again? Will people grow out of superhero franchises and CGI-heavy blockbusters? I think there is going to be a shift in what people see. I'll see your Dobson and raise your Michael Ryan.
Starting point is 01:32:12 He's written, it says, Hollywood COVID vacuum. Okay. It says, let's face it, the US is going to be out of commission for some time while a lot of countries have seen their COVID outbreaks come and go. It's true. It makes me think we'll soon see a boom in international content that wasn't filmed in Hollywood or elsewhere in the US.
Starting point is 01:32:25 Are there any international film projects you're excited about that might get a chance to thrive in the upcoming Hollywood content vacuum? I'm personally really excited about the Wheel of Time series from Amazon, which has resumed filming in Prague. Oh. So, yeah, I think it's a whole, like, how's the landscape going to shake out? There's that Apple thing that's coming up about Isaac Asimov thing, isn't it? Oh, Foundation, yeah. There's a HB Lovecraft series that's coming. Lovecraft Countryimov thing, isn't it? Oh, Foundation. Yeah, that's, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:46 There's a HB Lovecraft series that's coming. Lovecraft Country. Did you see the trailer for that? It looks wild. I did, maybe. I don't know what that show's about. Lovecraft. Tentacle Monsters.
Starting point is 01:32:54 You can't even possibly imagine going to the screen. No, all those things are true, yes. But because I'm like, well, I'll, because it's based on a book, and I'm like, well, I'll go and I'll click the link and I'll see what the book is about. And I'm not sure if the book is about literal Lovecraftian monsters or if it's about racism and prejudice as represented by metaphorical Lovecraft monsters.
Starting point is 01:33:14 Sure. And so I'm also wondering if that's what this is, the show is – is it going to be these people have to deal with prejudice and racism and bigotry while fighting tentacle monsters Is it going to be, you know, these people have to deal with, you know, prejudice and racism and bigotry while fighting tentacle monsters? Or if that's a metaphor, like is that because we see we literally see Cthulhu or like some avatar of Cthulhu in the trailer. And I'm like, is that going to be real or is that going to be a nightmare?
Starting point is 01:33:38 What is it, do you think? I think it's probably real. Yeah, probably. Yeah, pretty good, right? You're going to shoot it with a shot he made. Yeah, most of the time in Lovecraft, it's real, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. This is a real tentacle monster, probably. Yeah, pretty good, right? You're going to shoot it with a shotty, mate. Yeah, most of the time in Lovecraft it's real, isn't it? Yeah. It's like this is a real tentacle monster actually.
Starting point is 01:33:48 It's like are these people in this town, are they real mean and weird because they're isolated or is it fish men? It's fish men. Yeah, but both. Yeah. Well, yeah, so I think there will be, I think blockbusters are going to become something else.
Starting point is 01:34:03 They shift every decade or couple of decades. I don't know what that's going to look like. I'm not saying like comic book movies and that are going to become something else. They shift every decade or couple of decades. I don't know what that's going to look like. I'm not saying like comic book movies and that are going to disappear, but we might be getting a different brand of things that we like. Look, and I've said this previously that I would like. No origins is what I'm saying. Oh, you know, that's cool. But, I mean, it's very cheap.
Starting point is 01:34:19 It's very cheap. You buy some pearls online and you buy some fake guns and then you just repeat Bruce Wayne's Batman origin over and over and over again. That's right. Every TV show has it. Even if you're doing a Batman parody origin show or whatever. I would like to see a return to like mid-budget movies.
Starting point is 01:34:36 Yeah. Because that's where the creativity is. I think we're getting more of that on streaming though. Yeah, work with your limitations. Yes. Zoom meetings, obviously. Oh, my God. I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 01:34:44 Not Zoom meetings, but just the idea of, okay, well, we only have limited space and we only have limited budget and we can't work on locations. Yeah. Now give us a series based on that. Don't say it's Zoom. Give us another. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Like give us a property that, you know, more locked room mysteries, more single bottle episodes, more, more, more. Animations even. More animation, exactly, yeah. You're right. I think, yeah, it's going to change and we'll see what happens, won't we? Yes. Yeah, but I also think studios are also continuing to make big,
Starting point is 01:35:15 big budget films but just locking everything down real tight. That's true, yeah. A lot of Marvel stuff is still happening. Jurassic World 3 has got a whole lot of restrictions happening, which is good. And you know what? a whole lot of restrictions happening. So, which is good. And you know what? And look, and one thing that I guess one thing positive that's come out of that is
Starting point is 01:35:30 there doesn't seem to be any leaks. No. Like if everything's locked down and you can't, if you can't, you know, take your costume outside because it'd have to be sterilized or whatever. Yeah. And we're not seeing them outside and we can maybe be surprised by some
Starting point is 01:35:43 stuff for once. Oh my goodness. Once in our lives, James. I love being surprised, Mason. surprised by some stuff for once. Oh, my goodness. For once in our lives, James. I love being surprised, Mason. Me too. Sometimes I'm like, oh, my goodness, but that was a pleasant surprise, I say to myself. That's right.
Starting point is 01:35:51 Wowie zowie, you say. Yes. Yeah. Should I do a pleasant surprise local prank? What should I do? Oh. Should I just, like, make a big dog turd and put it in the centre of town? What do I do?
Starting point is 01:36:00 How big are we talking? As big as a car. How are you making it? Out of other dog turds? Are you gathering up all the dog turds? No, no, it would have to be fake. I can't be real dog turds because then somebody has to come and deal with that. I don't want anything destructive.
Starting point is 01:36:11 If anyone's got any ideas, I'd love to hear it. Yeah. Yeah, genuinely. Okay. Yeah, but no snitches, obviously. Yeah, that's true. Is that it? Look, I don't know how you're going to pull this off, but I'm...
Starting point is 01:36:22 No big dog turd idea. Yeah, but if you do, we go viral, so. Yeah. Or get cancelled, one of the two. Whatever. Yeah. Just anything at this point. Anything at all.
Starting point is 01:36:32 Yeah, that's all the letters, I think, this week. Well, do you want to bring us to a close? Yes. You lead me into reading some reviews. That's how this works. That is absolutely how it works. Thank you, everybody, so much for listening. Again, I think, as we said, we're getting more restrictions this week in Victoria,
Starting point is 01:36:48 so future podcasts might be remote. So we might lose a little bit of pizzazz, but we hope you stick with us. You don't have to. I mean, you don't. It's true. Do something else where you can live your life. But I think we'll, you know, well, actually, we won't lose any pizzazz, but we will increase the amount of us going, wait, you go.
Starting point is 01:37:06 Okay, just give me. I've lost him. Yeah. You know what? I don't think we should even record on Zoom. I think we should just record over the phone. You reckon? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:17 Oh, I thought you meant like record our phone calls. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree. Anyway, thank you everybody for continuing to listen. Thank you for subscribing. Thank you for telling a friend. Thank you for leaving a nice review.
Starting point is 01:37:29 James, do you have a nice review? It's from Small Sandwich. I wrote a review. Are you happy now? Please stop asking. I had a lengthy review plan where I led the reader on an emotional rollercoaster and really made them understand why you should watch this podcast. But because it's 5 a.m. and I have better things to do, like sleep,
Starting point is 01:37:42 oh, my God, I'm tired, I'll leave it with this. It's pretty good. He says, you know, can you do, like sleep, oh my God, I'm tired. I'll leave it with this. It's pretty good. He says, you know, can you please stop asking reviews? No, I can't stop asking. We'll stop asking you for reviews. Yeah, you don't have to do one anymore, Small Sandwich. So in the future, Small Sandwich, if you are listening to this, when we just feel relieved in the knowledge that we're not talking to you specifically.
Starting point is 01:37:58 That being said, sometimes the stars in that disappear, so you might have to do it. So maybe check. So I'll tell you what, every time we talk about reviews, recheck to see if your review is still there. I'd love that. And if it's not, you've got to put it in again. You don't have to put it so maybe check every time so tell you what every time we talk about reviews recheck to see if your review is still there and if it's not you gotta put it in again you don't have to put it in if it's already there because you've done your job yeah just like cam the batman fan says best place for comic book movie news and grilling advice five stars thank you just in app do you think you can do it in app uh only here you can listen to one man try to salvage a comic book uh movie news podcast as the other slowly succumbs to dad-manness of barbecuing and briquettes. Top quality stuff, 10 out of 10.
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Starting point is 01:40:12 We're still going to discuss how we can. Oh, my God, there's so much content in there. There's a lot out there, like all the movie commentaries and everything. We've got another one coming up next week, I think. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so this week we got this covered. Which is a good sign that we should probably record another.
Starting point is 01:40:24 We should do it. Get one in the can before we go into lockdown again. Potentials. If people are wondering, we could do Joker. Yep. That's one. We're looking at other DC properties we're looking at. Did we talk about Batman Begins maybe?
Starting point is 01:40:38 We could do Batman Begins, that's true. I thought of another one, but I forgot what it was. We had some ideas. We had some ideas. I wouldn't mind doing Joker though. We could do an 80s action movie Or 90s we could do a commando We could do a demolition man something like that
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Starting point is 01:41:04 With all your mates you're hanging out with to public.com, why not check out the Rob At Bat and Bat t-shirt? Because I'd like to see some of those in the wild. I think that would be very fun. Me too. With all your mates you're hanging out with, right? That's right, yeah. Thanks to everyone. So hang out with people, mate, so you're going to go to jail. No, I'm not. You're going to go to jail. People are going to send you to jail.
Starting point is 01:41:13 No, we go. We're sterilized. We go into those weird future showers where they sterilize you with sound waves. Okay, well, that's okay. That's fine, I guess. Like in The Fifth Element or whatever. Great, great, great. So thank you to The Brute and The Basilisk
Starting point is 01:41:27 and Rackham for all their musical themes. Next week, I don't know what we're going to talk about. I bet there's a new thing on Netflix or something. There's probably a new thing. I think there is a new thing next week, but what is it? We'll find out next week, won't we? We'll find out next week on this podcast. We will.
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Starting point is 01:41:55 FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.

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