The Weekly Planet - 351 Mulan & The Boys Season 2
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Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Weekly Planet,
where we talk movies and comics and TV shows.
My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday.
With me, as always, is my co-host, Nick Mason.
You really sped through the intro.
I know you've got to go to work. I'm like, let's move it along, eh?
Right? Yeah. But in many ways I'm at work. That's true. Which work do you prefer,
sitting here and barely doing anything or the one where you have to concentrate and do stuff?
Can I say neither? I'd rather do neither, if I'll be honest with you. Just nothing.
Don't you love all the great listeners? Yeah, but I mean. Don't you love most of the great listeners?
Look, I love most of the great listeners, but I also like staring at a wall.
Yeah, it's good to know.
Just not doing anything.
I have a friend who genuinely does that.
Like to decompress, he'll like just sit in front of a wall.
And I'm like, I wish I had that kind of.
Wall?
Yeah.
You wish you had that magic wall that he has, you know?
Just that perfect shade of taupe.
But do you know what I mean?
Like that's not decompressing for me.
That's weird.
That's madness.
That is absolutely madness.
That guy's going to snap.
You tell me who that is after the show and I'll be sure to avoid him.
All right.
So we've got some more Chadwick Boseman news up top.
I see.
It's not though.
I was going to say it's not good or bad news.
It's still bad news.
Yeah, exactly.
But just in terms of what was known about his illness.
Oh, and who knew.
And who knew, yeah.
So this is from The Hollywood Reporter.
It says, a source close to then that the 43-year-old actor
was convinced until about a week before his death
that he was going to beat cancer and would be able to gain his weight back
for the Black Panther sequel that was scheduled to go into production
in March and even set to prepare for a new film beginning in September.
Wow.
So I guess that also would speak to why it seems like nobody knew.
Yeah.
Because we were wondering last week, like, did anybody at Marvel know,
like outside of his family, what studios knew?
Yeah, right.
But it seems like he was like, well, I'll just beat it.
Yeah.
And then.
Just business as usual. Maybe, yeah, I'll just beat it. Yeah. And then. Just business as usual.
Maybe, yeah, I'll tell people afterwards, I guess.
That's incredible, though, that like just that mindset to be like,
I'll just beat this cancer.
I'll just speak through this and then in a few months I'll just.
Do two more movies.
And, you know, look, that blows my mind.
That's incredible.
And, you know, he doesn't have to tell anybody.
He didn't have to tell anybody.
So, you know, good on him.
Do it the way, you know, battle cancer the way that you want to do it.
Disney sources close to the company also,
they're processing the grief apparently,
and they're not looking at this point.
At this point, sorry, they're looking at how to pay tribute to Boseman
and not at the making of Black Panther 2.
Yeah, right.
Though at the same time I'd imagine they're thinking,
what are we going to do for Black Panther 2?
What is happening?
We are spiralling here.
What are we going to do?
Yeah, so there you go.
That's where we're at with that.
So that's, again, not good news.
Absolutely not.
Just the more I hear about this, the more it's just mind-blowing
that he was able to keep it a secret, the strength that he had,
like it's phenomenal.
Do you have some good news?
Star Wars news?
Okay, I guess that's good.
Yeah, okay.
You like Star Wars.
No, this is good news.
The Mandalorian's coming back.
We have a release date for The Mandalorian, right?
Season 2, October 30th, I believe.
Oh, just in time for All Hallows' Eve.
Oh, my God.
The spooky times.
Put a costume on, but stay indoors. That's this Halloween, Iows' Eve. Oh, my God. The spooky times. Put a costume on but stay indoors.
Right.
That's this Halloween, I'd imagine.
Yeah, so are you excited for that?
Yeah.
We saw there was a logo.
I don't know if you saw it.
It's blue.
I did not.
The last one was like a, you know, it's like a goldy, sandy color
and this one's blue.
What's the significance of that?
I don't know.
Space.
Space.
Coldness of space.
Water.
Oh.
This season's underwater, completely underwater.
My goodness.
I feel like that.
Is that helmet? It's not waterproof, is it?
They're probably intended to be waterproof, but they're mostly not.
Is there a kchh when he takes it off?
I think there is, yeah.
Because I know with the old Stormtrooper helmets,
they just rattle around.
You can fit your whole hand into it.
I was going to say, you know, most stormtroopers on Tatooine,
they have like a stick they use to scratch their cheek.
They're itchy in there.
They just stick it in between.
Yeah, that's it.
So that's exciting.
That's something that they managed to finish filming before all
the lockdowns happened.
That's also a mostly indoors show.
That's exactly right.
In the sense they can film almost anything indoors with those magic
screens they have.
There's a few outdoor stuff, like they built some marketplaces and stuff,
but it's mostly magic screens, which makes me think also season three
is probably not going to be that affected unless we have some kind of breakout,
which we will talk about.
Oh, no, there is more.
I'd forgotten about that.
We'll get to that in a minute.
We'll get to that, yeah.
Because, Mason, because, because.
Yes, go on. Clear some space in a minute. We'll get to that, yeah. Because, Mason. Yes. Because. Yes.
Because.
Yes, go on.
Clear some space in your diary because you're going to need some time to die.
Oh, my goodness. Just between me and you.
Yes.
If you would.
Well, that takes on a whole different.
Look, we've had a laugh, haven't we?
But that takes on a whole new aspect currently in the current times we're in.
I'm glad that this news wasn't paired with other news.
I think The Mandalorian was a good buffer,
but yeah, we got to-
That's a good tagline for 2020 though.
Clear some space in your diary
because you're going to want to die or whatever it is.
Need some time to die.
Need some time to die.
That's right, because-
A new trailer came out.
For James Bond, No Time to Die, the 25th movie,
the final of the Daniel Craig, 14 year run.
Wow. We were so
young when it started, Mason. Do you remember
how young we were? Not that young. So fresh-faced.
No, not really fresh-faced.
We were just a couple of surfer dudes
just cruising the coast. Okay, that
part is true. We were searching for that
endless summer. That is very true.
So
that's a good trailer.
Action heavy. Very action heavy, yeah.
Who's he trusting this time?
He doesn't know.
I mean, probably the new 00.
Is it though?
And not Anna Diamus who's like.
Yeah, but I think maybe she's got in deep though.
Or no, that's the other one.
His wife?
Is he married?
I don't know.
He retired.
Yes.
Yeah.
So I didn't watch it too closely because it's kind of like,
this is like the fourth or fifth trailer on this one now.
Yeah, right.
We get a bit more of Rami Malek, of course.
That's true, yeah.
Who wants to make the world a bit more clean and orderly, it seems.
Oh, one of these guys, yeah.
He's one of these guys, exactly, yeah.
Jeez.
I think they're right.
When you concentrate on bloody cleaning up your face, mate.
Do you think that's where it stems from, though?
Maybe, yeah.
It's like if I can't clean my face, I'll clean the entire planet.
That's right.
Yeah.
And then Bond's like, hey, maybe just get like some dermabrasion.
And he's like, oh, yeah.
Is that what it is though?
I think it's, what do you think is going on with his face?
Some kind of like villainous accident.
Do you think they're going to tie it in with Blofeld?
Do you think it's going to be?
Yeah, well, he's in the trailer, isn't he?
He's like, you've visited me again, glass prisons.
That's exactly right.
Was there a, so Bond and Blofeld's parents were killed in a skiing accident.
Yes.
Was there also a fire involved somehow?
Their house burned down.
That's it.
That was a different thing.
That was a Skyfall house.
Oh, you think he was in the Skyfall house?
Maybe.
Oh, man, you know what?
Probably.
But, I mean, so the Skyfall house burned down in the present day.
Yeah, but he could have been like a henchman in there
and Bond like shot him with a nail gun and burnt his face
or whatever happened at the end of that movie.
But also, mate, I was thinking, mate, well, see, that's the thing.
It's been so long since the last couple of Bond movies
that they've all sort of blurred together.
Here's my guess that he was involved in Skyfall burning down,
but there was a first time.
When they were kids, Skyfall burned down.
It's like Wayne Manor burned down and they rebuilt it.
I reckon Skyfall burned down and he was like the child of a servant.
And then he's sworn revenge and now he's become an international terrorist
because he got burned up in the fire.
That makes sense.
And what's his name?
It's like, don't you remember, because he goes to visit him,
don't you remember your past?
And Bond's like, are these all about my past?
See, that's what I'm thinking.
And he's like, yes.
It's all about your past.
I have a feeling and I'm getting the sense that this guy is intrinsically linked
with Bond and Blofeld's past because why wouldn't he be?
Why couldn't he just be an unrelated person of the billions
of people on earth?
Because you can't end a franchise on like he just stopped a bomb.
Yeah, right.
Just a guy had a bomb and he just stopped it.
Who was it?
Sam Rando.
It's in the official report.
You see the report close at the end.
It's got, you know, on a Majesty's Secret Service,
it's called the Sam Rando.
Clunk, big red stamp.
Case closed.
Case closed, yeah.
I think the last one was supposed to be like that was supposed
to tie it together and cap it off because it wasn't very good.
People are like, well, what if?
There was another one.
There was another one, yeah.
What if Bond was related to another person?
Yeah.
I like the Bond who everybody he knows is dead.
Yeah, it's good, isn't it?
He cuts all his ties, you know what I mean?
You know what he's about
Anyway, I think Arne de Almas' character is the traitor in this one
Yeah, well, it's one of the two, isn't it?
Always
There's an evil lady and a good lady
Though I think there's a few exceptions
One of them is, we just did the Brosnan ones
Which is the Michelle Yeoh one?
Tomorrow Never Dies
Yes, And there's
Halle Berry. Not Halle Berry.
From Lois and Clark is in that one too, right?
Yes, she is. So there were two.
Both of them were good in that one. Terry Hatcher.
Thank you. There we go.
Is this going to be a whole
episode of people screaming at us like
Terry Hatcher, Michelle Yeoh,
Tomorrow Never Dies, the name of the
movie, the actor. Yes, it is. Yes, yes, yes.oh, Tomorrow Never Dies, the name of the movie, the actor.
Yes, it is.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yeah, no, that's – what if this is the Bond movie
where they just turn it all up on its head and it's just the new 00
and Ana de Armas and his ex-wife just standing over his dead body
being like, didn't see that coming.
We're all alive.
And friends.
Yeah, we're all alive. We're all alive. And friends. Yeah, we're all alive.
We're all alive and friends.
We're going to brunch.
Bond is dead.
We feel a great weight has been lifted.
It'll be interesting to see how this ends this run of the franchise
and whether they're going to reboot or do a continuation.
Because I think if you bring in a new 007,
you are potentially setting up another franchise.
The same franchise, sorry to cut you off.
What I think is they're going to wait until it comes out and then go,
what did you like?
Which parts of this did you like?
Did you like Lady Bond?
Because we could do Lady Bond.
Did you like other friends?
Did you like when they went to brunch?
We could do that.
Did you like when Bond wrapped the rope? We could do that. Yeah.
Did you like when Bond wrapped the rope around him and jumped off the bridge?
Because we could do two hours of that.
Absolutely.
Just Bond leaping off a bridge.
You liked it in GoldenEye?
Yeah, they did love it in GoldenEye.
I think he did it in Skyfall as well.
Not Skyfall.
Quantum of Solace.
Remember he's in that scaffolding?
Yeah, vaguely.
And remember that bit that's in the trailer where he spins around and then he shoots up
at the camera?
Yeah.
Yeah.
No one remembers that movie.
Anyway, do you want Godfather?
I do.
It was the oil one.
Yes.
I don't mind it.
Yeah.
Do you want Godfather 3 news?
I know what the Godfather 3 news is, and this is the release
the blank cut disease has been, it's spreading to everyone.
It's even spreading to auteurs.
Excuse me, I just choked on some.
What am I saying?
I'm okay.
Yeah, nice.
It's not corona.
You have to say that.
You do.
Well, I bet.
Put the economics.
Yeah.
Somebody sent an email this week or last week and it was, I listened to one of the commentaries
and boy, Mason clears his throat a lot.
I really do.
And he's like, James, how often do you have to edit those out of the actual podcast?
And the answer is all the time.
Is it that many?
From my perspective, it seems like a lot.
But as a sort of a constant throat clearer, I constantly have to like remind people of that.
I'll be in people's presence and I'll be like, and then I'm like, okay, but think back to every other time
you've spent time with me.
Every five minutes.
This is no different.
I'm not changed.
The world has changed.
I'm the same.
Yeah.
I'm the same man you always knew.
So what do we – oh, that didn't even turn on.
Fucking air cons, man.
I don't know what's going on.
Is that on?
No.
Get a load of this guy.
All the stuff going on in the world.
He's like, oh, my air conditioning system.
If the world's going to burn out, I may as well aid to it.
You know what I mean?
No, absolutely.
You're absolutely right.
Anyway, you were saying Godfather 3 news.
You brought it up.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So Godfather 3 is going to get a Snyder cut basically is what's happening.
That's right.
Zack Snyder's getting his hands on it.
That's right.
That's going to be his job from now on, just altering other people's films.
So I've got a quote here from Francis Ford Coppola.
For those people who don't know.
He's still alive.
Still alive, yes, but that and also it's widely regarded
that it's the worst Godfather movie by quite a lot,
but also not a terrible movie compared to movies.
Yeah, for sure.
I haven't seen it.
I have no idea.
I don't think I've even seen two.
It's one of those movies where I'm like,
I need to see that at some point.
In three, they go to Japan.
Oh, my goodness.
As with all sequels.
Yes.
So for this version of the finale.
And in two, I don't know if you know this,
they made a different, they made it a crew.
It's them, but like it's a, you know.
Like an evil version?
It's an evil version of their crew.
Oh, my goodness.
Which is weird because they're evil because they're in the mafia.
They're just evil in slightly different ways.
They're more passive aggressive.
But the third one's the Yakuza, I assume.
That's right, yes.
I understand, yeah.
So for this version of the finale, I created a new beginning and ending
and rearranged some scenes, shots, and music cues.
With these changes and the restored footage and sound,
to me it's a more appropriate conclusion to The Godfather
and The Godfather Part 2, and I'm thankful to Jim Gianopolis
and Paramount for allowing me to revisit it.
He created a new beginning and ending.
I'm assuming it's based on footage that he was either in the movie
that he's moved around or that he didn't put in.
Or it's a narration or something.
The Godfather Part 3.
This looks like America, but it's Japan.
Japan got a justice. either. Part three. This looks like America, but it's Japan. Do you think
you've got a justice?
They brought all their Italian
heritage over to
feel more at home. They got the
software that took all the guns out of E.T. and
turned them into radios, but it took all
the pasta fazool and it turned it into
samurai swords.
So this has made me want to revisit these movies.
Yeah, I love Japan.
Japan's incredible.
But first of all, watch the first one again and then watch two.
And maybe just watch this one because I don't really want to watch
the bad version and then watch the definitive version.
I'd imagine when this comes out a lot of people will be like, whatever.
Yeah.
They're mostly the same, aren't they?
There are probably also people who will be like,
oh, he's made a mistake here.
Oh, like Big Defenders.
Big Defenders of the Earth.
Yeah, there you go.
And Big Defenders obviously is the giant mecca that the Yakuza have
in Godfather Part 3.
Ah, it's Big Defenders.
Robert Duvall's been replaced with Big Defender.
I know he's not in 3.
He didn't come back. Yeah, because Big Defender. Robert Duvall's been replaced with Big Defender. I know he's not in three. He didn't come back.
Yeah, because Big Defender is in it.
Oh, this is going to be a stupid movie.
I can't wait.
Deadliner reporting.
There's varied reports here, so here we go.
The Batman has been shut down due to a crew member getting COVID.
And.
Oh, yes.
It's revealed to be Robat Battenbat.
Well, he's not in the crew.
He's in the cast.
He's part of the crew.
He's part of the crew.
Do you think he's the grip when he's not on screen?
Maybe.
That's probably how he got COVID.
It's probably true.
I'd imagine also he's the only one not wearing a proper mask.
He's the only one mouth and nose exposed when everyone else is masking up.
So that's the only one mouth and nose exposed when everyone else is masking up. So that's the rumour.
It seems to be pretty much confirmed
by everybody but the studio
itself. Maybe that's changed by the time this comes out.
It says it's unclear whether Pattinson,
sorry, Battinson, Battenbat,
has symptoms of the disease or he is
asymptomatic. Variety reporting
that the shoot will be... Or he's just generally miserable.
He could just be sad.
Variety's reporting the shoot will continue without him.
Scenes without him.
We don't even need you, Bat and Bass.
Yeah, exactly.
They said they're going to do scenes without him and then body doubles.
But then they said, wait a minute, crew members are still doing construction
and work on sets and Warner Brothers Studios,
they're doing like special effects and stuff,
but they're not filming anything.
So they are shutting it all down.
Yeah, right.
So this was probably always going to be delayed,
but this has kind of confirmed this to me.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'd imagine.
Yeah, well, get well soon or robot bat and bat.
Yeah, I hope it's not serious because we don't need that in the world,
obviously.
Everybody, let's wait until we have a diagnosis that he's doing all right
and he's on the mend.
Yep.
And then and only then, if we could all spam his social media pages,
get well, Rob At Bat and Bat.
Yes, relentlessly.
Just for days.
Not now.
Not now.
No.
Because that would be a bad look if he dies.
Yes, that's right.
Do you think Rob At Bat and Bat is gaining traction?
A little bit, yeah.
I feel like some people are.
They're out there.
They're doing the Lord's work, so I appreciate that.
I mean, what is certainly gaining traction is various YouTube personalities
being presented with the name Robat Battenbat and saying,
I don't like it, it's bad, and it's hard to say.
That's true.
That's the point, various YouTube personalities
that have been presented with the name.
I'm enjoying the comments that we get on YouTube that are like,
isn't Battenson easier?
It's like, no, I mean, yes.
Very much is, yes.
But no, it's not why we're doing it.
This name has been perfectly engineered for difficulty.
That's right.
Exactly.
So there you go.
And then the last bit of news, this comes via John Boyega.
I don't know if you read that GQ article.
I read some of it.
I read the entirety of the thing.
I know, right?
I recommend, though.
Took him out of context for maximum outrage.
That's what he mentioned as well, that if you've got to speak on it, he was talking to you specifically. Oh, okay, though. Took him out of context for maximum outrage. That's what he mentioned as well, that, like,
if you've got to speak on it.
He was talking to you specifically.
Oh, okay, cool.
Maybe read it in its entirety.
You should check it out, though.
John Boyega mentioned me?
That's right.
I mean, it wasn't good.
John Boyega was mean to me.
But basically he talks about a number of things.
It's not just about Star Wars, but some of it is about,
a lot of it is about Star Wars where he said he enjoyed being a part of it.
It was a great experience.
The making of it, yeah.
Yeah, that's right.
But he also said that, like, he's very grateful for the opportunity
because obviously it's gotten him the profile, a lot of the profile.
I mean, not like he had worked before and he probably would have got work
regardless, but he did mention they gave all the nuance
to Adam Driver, Daisy Ridley.
So, like, Disney knew what to do with those characters
and everybody knew that and he's not exposing anything by saying that.
He also mentioned that like if you're going to bring in a black character,
market them to be really important in the franchise
and then push them to the side.
That's not good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he said it's the same with Rose Tico.
He mentions also that J.J. Abrams actually came coming back in Trotter.
He said the exact quote is, to save your shit, to be like,
you know, it was very late in the day.
We've talked about it to death.
Yeah, right.
The entire story was changed.
We've got a video where an animation about what the Colin Trevorrow version
would have been like, which seems like it would have given Boyega more play
because he leads like a storm to the resistance.
That's the quote that intrigued me the most because like in the last one,
Boyega's role as Finn is mostly just him going,
Ray!
Yeah.
Like he didn't really have a.
No.
Like my assumption going into that article was going to be like,
yeah, I didn't have anything to do in Rise of Skywalker,
but guess not.
It's not incorrect though because if you look at the first film,
like all the marketing was like Finn with a lightsaber.
That's true.
And then, look, to be fair, he does get a lot of play in that first movie.
But then he also mentions that he's not referring specifically
to the Rise of Skywalker.
It's hinted at that he's also saying The Last Jedi.
And I would argue that he has stuff to do in The Last Jedi.
Right.
But that's not the best story in that movie.
Like I like that movie but that's not a very compelling arc.
Well, yeah, and it's sort of the casino planet sequence which, again,
like the reason they're on that planet could very well have been compacted
into like one two-minute scene.
Yeah, that's right.
They go to a bar and they get some information or whatever. Yeah, that's right. They go to a bar and they get some information or whatever.
Yeah, that's right.
They are, Rose and Finn are sort of shunted off to one side in that,
you know.
Yeah.
The time could have been better spent in integrating them back
into the main cast and a different story, but yeah.
What I get from this, and I'm probably wrong,
is that he doesn't want to come out and completely write off J.J. Abrams
because he hired him.
So you don't want to come out and be like,
that last movie was terrible and I didn't have anything to do
because it's the same director.
Because he talks about how he does, again, he's grateful.
He wants to be in that Felicity reboot.
Is there going to be a Felicity reboot?
I don't know.
I'm excited.
I'm not that excited.
If there's anything, it would be like kids of Felicity.
It would be Scott Speedman and Felicity's's kids if they got together at the end yeah and then be weird vampire werewolf
hybrids oh yeah right you know that yeah but yeah rose also she really got like shunted in that
third movie she's yeah she's like how many like she's like you know for like 40 seconds or something
like that in total it's crazy so. So I don't know, man.
Yeah, because like what was his arc at the end of the day?
He maybe has the force.
Yeah, sure.
Like that was the extent of it really.
Yeah.
He's thinking about having the force but he's a bit embarrassed about it.
Yeah.
He's feeling strange feelings.
He doesn't know what to do with them.
I would love to see him come back down the line and have more of a bigger role in it.
I think there's a very good chance that he will.
But at the moment, this doesn't come across to me like he's just being sour
or ungrateful.
I think these are legitimate concerns.
Oh, for sure, yeah.
So I totally see where he's coming from.
But anyway, read the article.
It's really fascinating.
It's about his family and everything.
And by the time he was on a film shoot and he got on the wrong boat
and he was hit up for money.
It's crazy, yeah.
There's a whole bunch of stuff going on.
Gentleman's Quarterly.
Gentleman's Quarterly, that's right.
Is that what it's for?
Have you read it much?
Not lately, but back in the day.
I used to work at a service station, a petrol station, a gas station.
I've covered all the continents.
All the regional dialects, yeah.
But, yeah, I just read the magazines there.
El Statione Servicio.
Exactly.
I used to read them there.
El Servicio Gasolina.
Very good.
But, no, since then I've never read.
I'm sure I've been redirected to their website occasionally.
And it's like, do you want to turn Adblocker off?
And I'm like, fine, fine.
Yeah.
All right, Mason.
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This is before we talk about Milan.
And then a little bit about the boys and what we're reading, I imagine,
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But, yeah, so is the Joker commentary up this week?
I don't know. I think it is, Mason. I have no access to any of this. Oh, don commentary up this week? I don't know.
I think it is, Mason.
I have no access to any of this.
Oh, don't you?
No, I don't think so.
You should set that up.
Not me.
Someone.
Someone.
Collings, who edits this, will set it up.
Oh, he sent me a login.
Oh, okay.
So you do have access.
You throw on Collings under the bus like that.
Unbelievable.
I do it every day.
Yeah, so if you want to sign up, that joke commentary will be up there right now,
I believe, or it's another thing.
But there's something new every Monday.
That's right. It might be a book club,
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We got this covered, covered, covered.
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What is it? It's a secret. Oh, do you want to talk
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Oh yeah, this time around, I think for the Boo Club,
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Robert Kirkman's The Walking Dead.
Yes, that's right.
Because I've never read it and I've also never watched the TV series.
I watched like episode one.
Yep.
And, yes, I'm excited to get into that.
And you loved it.
Would you consider Walking Dead a classic, the comic book?
Yeah, definitely.
Okay, then I'm very excited. So we'll cover
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Absolutely.
Let's talk about the movie Mulan.
It was $35 Australian.
So for me, Claire and I watched it together.
I think that's a pretty reasonable price.
But for you, a man with no friends.
That's correct.
How did you feel about the price?
It was just good to have so many friends in the room with me,
wearing their robes and swinging their swords, you know.
Do you think it's worth the price of addition?
Probably not, I'll be honest.
Yeah, fair enough, yeah.
And again, it's going to be out in, hang on, October, November.
It's going to be out in three months for free.
December, right?
If you have Disney Plus.
Absolutely.
So that'll be coming up.
So that's good.
It certainly was $35.
Yeah, I would say if it's not something you're interested in, then wait.
Well, it's fascinating because I, here's my question for you,
is that what, who is the market for a movie that costs $35,
depending on where you live, and you must see it,
but also on the same service there's essentially exactly the same movie,
which many people probably regard as significantly better.
Who is like, well, I must spend $35.
Well, us.
This is not for kids.
It's not a kids movie.
Well, that's the thing.
Who's the audience for this?
It's very violent and I would say it's got a lot of like talk of like themes
and there's conversations.
Yeah.
I've just wrote themes and conversations and shit.
That's what I've written in my notes.
Yeah, yeah.
So I think kids would find a lot of this, like kids my age who are like four
would find this boring and really violent.
Like I wouldn't show it to him.
But I'd show him like regular Milan with a grasshopper.
Yeah.
So that's the thing.
Like we're in this position where a lot of people are stuck at home
and they're not working and they're like, well,
should I spend $35 on this and I've got kids?
Why wouldn't I just show them regular Milan?
Yeah, for free.
Well, I mean that's ultimately mine.
Because this one's longer.
You can keep them at the TV for free. Well, I mean, that's ultimately mine. Because this one's longer. You can keep them at the TV for longer.
Or if you get them to watch Milan and they like Milan,
original Milan, you just get them to watch Milan again.
To Milan.
Yeah.
It's the second Milan, you know.
Yeah, new Lan.
To Lan?
Yeah, to Lan.
Thank you.
I thought it was all right.
What did you think?
I think it's also fine.
Yeah.
It's pretty spectacular in parts.
It looks great.
It looks great.
That's what I mean, yeah.
I don't know if the costumes are accurate to that time.
Should we just do spoilers or whatever?
Yeah, I mean, it's Mulan.
Okay, it's essentially exactly the same as the previous Mulan.
With all the fun taken out.
With all the fun taken out.
There's no songs, obviously, so if you're expecting.
There's some orchestral moments.
There's some orchestral moments.
Also, there is like a story beat, like second to third act that has taken out.
Which one's that? I don't remember. Alright, well, spoilers from
this point forward. It's Mulan. If you have seen
Mulan, it's the same, but not as fun. So
in, if I remember correctly, and again, I've
only seen Mulan once as an adult. Yeah.
Mulan goes back
to her army and reveals
that she is Lady Mulan. Yeah. And
they're like, get out of here. You're
not in the army anymore. I thought you were Man Mulan.
But then her team of buddies goes and finds her
and then they save the emperor.
Okay, right.
But in this one, she just goes back and she's like,
I'm a Lady Mulan.
And they're like, okay.
We like that.
Let's go save the emperor.
And they do.
So that bit's been taken out.
Okay.
And the bit where they dress as women.
That's also been taken out, yeah.
That's not funny, Mason.
Yeah.
Or it is funny. It's too funny, I should say. That's not funny, Mason. Or it is funny.
It's too funny, I should say.
It's too funny.
It's too hilarious.
It would have broken Disney+.
Look, props to this movie because it's different.
Yeah.
And I don't think it's terrible.
I was like it definitely built for me as well as it went.
It got more epic in scope and I got more invested.
At the start I'm like this feels weird.
I don't know what it's about.
There's a few camera movements where it mostly looks good
and shot well but sometimes they just tilt the camera
completely on its side and I'm like, ooh, I don't like that.
Maybe I'm just old.
Yeah, the director was like, we want some ooh moments
where people are like, ooh, this is unpleasant.
I don't like that.
But, yeah, like the movie looks great.
I don't know how accurate the costumes were to like that time period,
but I imagine it's quite accurate.
Or even the original story.
I've heard some people say that it's not closer
to what the original story was.
I can't speak to that.
But, yeah, but like, you know, just the costumes,
like every villager has like a beautiful individual costume
and that was clearly a lot of work and they built this, you know,
ancient Chinese village which looks great.
Every village has like a crotchety old woman who's hooking people up.
Yeah, right.
Does everyone have one of those?
Is that like an official job?
It seems that way.
There's one matchmaker, yeah.
That's nuts.
Yeah.
That's a pretty good gig there.
How do you get qualified for that?
You'd have to get a few.
Do you go to TAFE?
You might have to go to TAFE.
I reckon it's like an apprenticeship system, yeah.
Yeah, maybe you have to like, maybe it's like a double O system,
like license to kill.
You have to kill a couple of people in your own time.
With Matchmaker, you have to pair up a couple of people
if you're not a Matchmaker.
You have to go rogue.
And they notice.
Yeah, and the bigwigs notice and they're like,
maybe we'll give you the.
Give you the.
Give you the old double O Matchmaker. Matchmaker, the big wigs notice. And they're like, maybe we'll give you the. Give you the. Give you the old double O matchmaker.
Matchmaker, that's right, yeah.
It took me a minute in this movie to be like,
what is this universe and magic or whatever?
Like what exists and what doesn't?
And then it's just, it's Chi and a woman who's sometimes a bird
and sometimes she's lots of birds.
And there's a phoenix.
Or is there?
Because I think Mulan is the only one who can see the phoenix.
So either she's having some kind of brain aneurysm
or it's a spirit that only she can see.
Because nobody else, I was watching it.
Is there a comment on it?
It's a metaphor?
I don't know.
But, yeah, so it's Chi and it's a woman who's one bird or various birds.
And the aforementioned mysterious phoenix.
Yes.
At the end of the movie, the emperor is, like,
tied up to a big pyre of, like, you know, wood and scaffolding
or whatever, and I'm like, well, there's going to be a fiery finish here.
That's what I thought.
Because I.
Someone better go into that fire.
Well, exactly.
Like the evil warlord is there, and I'm like, well,
he's going to be set on fire fire and how's that going to happen?
Maybe a certain phoenix is going to get involved?
Nobody gets set on fire at all.
Nobody gets.
I thought it was going to be like a Terminator 2 ending
where he's sinking down and he's not giving a thumbs up.
He's screaming in agony.
But then he's like, I found your sword.
Because the sword fell in the lava.
He did, yeah, that's right.
There's a few things in this that I wanted to mention.
Go on.
The floor is yours, James.
The floor is mine.
Okay.
So there's Chekhov's sulfur pit in this that never pays off.
Remember the bit where she's running across the sulfur pit
and it's cracking?
Is it a sulfur pit?
I don't know.
And then I'm like, ooh, someone's going in that sulfur pit.
This is going to be wild.
Nobody goes into the sulfur pit.
In fairness, there are only two people in that scene.
Yeah, I know.
Mulan and the witch
One of them's going to go into the sulfur pit
Right
I mean because the witch could go in and turn into various birds and escape
That's true
That's what I'm saying
I liked the inclusion of that witch character
So there's a bonus villain in this
Who's loosely I guess based off the hawk that the villain has in the cartoon
Right
Is that right?
Yes
Because he's got like a falcon or something
Oh right okay I guess Sure cartoon right is that right yes because he's got a like a falcon or something i guess sure but so
she is helping the guy from the jungle book from the 90s the live action yes that's right is it
yeah cool that's awesome pretty good right uh he's great scars yeah he's a good villain but um
he she wants to take over stuff but she needs his army and he's like you need me because you'll never
be in charge
because you're a witch and you've got crow hands or whatever.
Yeah, okay, go on.
But, like, just kill him.
Just be like, I'm magic.
I'm in charge and I'm magic.
Because the thing is, he's like, well, if I defeat all these people,
I'll create a society where you'll be accepted.
Yeah.
Except they don't accept her in that.
But also Milan is also a woman who's like, well,
they'll never accept you, Milan, because you're too much
of a tomboy in this society.
Guess what?
So it's just pure chance that those two women,
one lives in the society where once she proves how good she is
at kung fu, they'll be like, well, actually, okay,
you can be in the army.
But the witch is like in a society where they're like,
we still don't like you.
Can't be in the army. Even though But the witch is like in a society where they're like, we still don't like you. Can't be in the army.
Even though you're winning all the battles for us.
So I think they were meant to be parallel.
No, I understand it, but I didn't buy like at the end,
so she saves Mulan by turning into a bird and stopping an arrow.
Why don't you turn into a big baseball glove is your question.
Catch that arrow.
I don't think she can do that maybe maybe, but like do, kill him.
Just kill him. If you, like,
you're involved now. You're involving yourself.
I think that was an interesting character, aside
from, like, your motivations are
so skew here. I'm not sure what you're going with.
What your point is.
I guess she didn't want to go on either. She's like,
I've had enough of helping Jason
Scott Lane. Did she change her motivations
midway through the movie
or was it her plan entirely all along to get Mulan to reveal?
No, because she wanted to kill Mulan.
Remember she threw the ninja star or whatever.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
And she was like, but she was saved by the bodice,
whatever she was wearing.
So in a way her disguise was good.
Yes.
It paid off.
It's Chekhov's disguise.
Yeah, in a way. Is this movie full of Chekhov's things. It paid off. It's Chekhov's disguise. Yeah, in a way.
Is this movie full of Chekhov's things?
It absolutely is.
Does it start with Chekhov's Mulan's good at
fighting? Is she good at
fighting in the... Or is she magic?
No, but I mean in the original cartoon,
is she inherently... No, she's not.
She's okay. In this she's sort of inherently
good at fighting and she wants to be a
fighter, but in the cartoon, she doesn't want to be, right?
She just wants to be a bit weird and tomboyish.
Yeah, but here she's because, yeah, you're right,
because when she does the training.
She's already very good.
Yeah, but in the other one that was about like unlocking her potential
or being unburdened.
But, yeah, the cartoon is like she gets better
and she's better at lifting buckets of water.
That's right.
She also does in this.
I looked at that lifting buckets of water.
I'm like, that's fucking impossible.
No, as me, Mason.
You'll never be in an ancient Chinese army.
We'll see.
I'll show you.
I'll show you.
I can't believe they took that song out.
At least like orchestrally that song should be in there.
That's crazy to me.
The dubstep version.
The dubstep version.
Yeah.
James, what's a more current reference than dubstep?
Tick.
Miming a tip to TikTok.
I feel we lean too heavily on TikTok.
We do.
I think you've done that.
Yeah, I know I have.
But that's the thing.
What's newer than TikTok?
Email in.
Use email to tell us what's new and cool. Send us a fax about what's newer than TikTok? Email in. Use email to tell us what's new and cool.
Send us a fax about what's newer than TikTok.
Grime?
Is grime newer than dubstep?
What's grime?
It's a type of musical style.
Is it?
Because you kind of changed direction there.
No, it is.
Grime is a type of music.
Okay, great.
But grimes is a musical artist.
That's a different. Did he invent grime? Well. Grimes is a type of music. Okay, great. But Grimes is a musical artist. That's a different...
Did he invent Grimes?
Well, Grimes is a lady. Grimes is
Elon Musk's wife. I'm so out of the...
Really? Yeah. I'm so out of the loop.
Did you know that Grimes... Well, you wouldn't know this. Email in.
Tell me what's new.
What's current. Send a telegram.
Did it, did it, did it, did it.
Grimes, in addition to being
a musician and Elon Musk's wife,
when she, like 10 years ago when she was a teenager,
she and her brother stole a boat and then like,
no, they built a boat.
Okay.
They built a Google Grimes boat.
They built a boat and they like went up the coast and then they did all sorts of shenanigans.
They did it Huckleberry Finn style.
Why?
I don't know.
That seems pretty rad.
Probably to do it Huckleberry Finn style.
Yeah.
You know?
That's a pretty Huckleberry Finn looking boat as well,
just looking at this.
It looks like it's made out of toilet seats and barrels.
Well, that's the innovative spirit that Elon Musk likes in his ladies.
You know what I mean?
I guess he does.
His third wife or whatever she is.
Well done, Elon Musk.
You've done it again.
You've done it again.
We respect you.
We absolutely respect him.
Yep.
Good stuff.
What were we talking about?
I forgot.
Mulan, the movie Mulan.
There was boats.
Okay, cool, yeah.
So they took out the dragon as well.
Mushu the dragon.
Which I'm fine.
They replaced him with like mates and shit.
So at any point, did you
expect that the phoenix
would somehow start talking? No.
Did you? Not really, no. Because they showed, like,
when they showed that talisman
at the start with the phoenix on it, I'm like,
is this all we're getting? Yeah, right. I mean, I
didn't want the dragon in it anyway, because I'm not a fan.
We've done a Caravan of Garbage on Mulan. It'll be out this week,
by the way. But, um, the original
one. Yeah. But, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm okay with it. Were you? Did you want it to bebage and Mulan will be out this week, by the way. But the original one.
But, yeah, I'm okay with it.
Were you?
Did you want it to be like, Mulan, now it's time for me to tell you? Not really because there'd be no foreshadowing of that.
And who would it be?
It'd have to be the voice of somebody who's already in the movie.
Yeah.
It'd have to be like her father dies and then the phoenix is the voice
of her father or something like that.
No, it should have been Donny Osmond from the original Milan
who sung I'll Make a Man Out of You.
That's right.
It was the voice double.
Yes.
It's me, Donny Osmond.
Look, I'm a pop star.
I do grime now.
It's the latest thing.
So, yeah.
Yeah, but I thought the camaraderie was decent, you know.
Yeah, uh-huh.
Did we get as much time?
It's interesting that the running time was longer,
but did we get as much time with the wacky band of kind of, you know,
rejects who become an amazing fighting force?
I would say if you looked at it, like if you looked at screen time,
I'd say you'd probably get more of this because a large portion
of this is training.
But because there's such caricatures in the cartoon,
just by visually you get like, well, that's the tiny little one.
That's the one whose teeth keeps getting broken.
Yeah, right.
That's the giant one.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
But no, I got a sense of like, oh, they're mates
and they're working together and they're backing each other.
I mean, if they had a song called We're Mates and We're Backing Each Other.
Yeah.
But in terms of action scenes though, action sequences,
I thought it looked quite good.
It's quite well choreographed.
The choreo was pretty top notch, especially the city infiltration
at the end.
I thought it was particularly good.
I thought, you know, the army's coming in and, you know,
the fight in like the stone corridor.
Oh, yeah, that was pretty good, yeah.
I think like Milan's sword work was quite good.
I think, yeah, and I also appreciated that it was light on romance.
There was that hint towards like, he really likes her,
but she's like, I'm not about this right now.
I'm about saving the emperor.
That's what I'm about.
That's right, and now that the movie's over,
I'm about getting on my horse and getting the heck out of here.
That's right, exactly.
I'm going to Disneyland.
Yay!
That's right, it's reopened.
Everything's fine.
All the cast are wearing masks, but it's the same.
I also don't understand how that bit where he went down to the river
and he's like, Milan, man, Milan, we should be better friends.
He's like, get out of here.
I'd be like, that's a woman, right?
That's clearly a woman.
You should have gone down to the neck in the water, I feel.
Yeah, right.
I don't know.
I just feel like I would have picked up on that.
But it was dark, wasn't it?
It was dark.
That's true.
So what do I know?
Yeah.
It was dark and she was using that manly voice.
Yeah, that's right.
That's true.
Yeah.
I did like the scene, the pre-Avalanche battle sequence.
I thought that was good.
Yeah, that was pretty horrific how the tar rocks are just like smashing into it.
Yeah, just hitting those kind of like they get together in the shield walls
and they're just being like annihilated.
A lot of that army is just summarily executed and we never really dwell on it.
You know the moment where they go to the garrison,
they go to the other camp and there's just all the helmets.
That reminded me of 300.
Remember in 300 when they go to that village and it's just like desolate?
This is pretty grim, man.
It was a pile of bodies at one point.
Again, you're right, not for kids.
Not for kids.
And I think they actually took out a bit at the end.
I might be wrong, but do you remember when the villain was kicked
with an arrow?
Yes.
That's dumb.
I don't know why they did that.
I thought it was good.
Why though?
Because she's got the music in her.
You know what I mean?
That was never a light in this movie.
No, it wasn't.
It's true.
No, I think it's just because that feels like a very,
that felt very true to like.
The Disney villain, you can never outright kill them.
You have to.
No, not even that.
I felt it was very true to kind of like this kind of hero in China,
historical epic. Yeah. Kind of heightened. Yeah. Kung Fu final kill. I just thought it was very true to kind of like this kind of hero in China, historical epic kind of heightened kung fu final kill.
I just thought it was, you know.
Okay, fair enough.
Felt accurate to that, I think.
I don't know.
Maybe it just looked weird.
Okay.
But what would you have preferred is what you're saying.
She stabs him with a sword.
Right, nice.
Just through the head.
Chekhov's sword.
Yeah.
Right in there.
Yeah.
Yeah, but when he looks at his hand, like because he's been hit with an arrow,
I think I feel like there was maybe was going to be blood in it at one version.
Oh, and they did it without.
Because he looks at his hand and there's no.
No.
All they were going to put it in.
No, I think that.
Oh, he thought he was going to catch it.
Oh, yeah.
Because he caught one before.
I didn't.
You picked up on a thing in a movie that I didn't.
That's Chekhov's don't catch an arrow.
That's exactly right.
Yeah. Oh, man, I didn't even realize that. Yeahhov's Don't Catch an Arrow. That's exactly right. Yeah.
Oh, man, I didn't even realise that.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
Okay, I take that back.
Ming-Na Wen is in this.
She is for a second.
Little cameo.
I think that's good.
It's a good way to do it, just to be like, this is Milan,
but this is different Milan.
Where was Donny Osmond?
Why didn't he get a cameo?
It's not really the kind of movie you can sneak Donny Osmond into, is it?
No, I think you can.
There's ways.
He should have voiced the Phoenix. He should have voiced the Phoenix.
He should have voiced the Phoenix.
Yeah, maybe, yeah.
I've got a question here from a listener.
Or he could have been like in that market scene at the start,
just like selling American flags and stuff.
Yeah, that's true, yeah.
Also, kudos, this is an all Asian cast.
You don't really see it and it's just, I mean,
outside of obviously films that are made in Asia.
Sure.
But, you know, in a big Western movie like this,
a Western production, which this is obviously because it's coming
out of Disney, great.
You've seen some new faces, do you know what I mean?
Yep.
So that's really good.
Honestly, I think it's all right.
I don't think it's worth $35.
No, I don't think it is.
Necessarily. Yeah. But if I did worth $35 necessarily. No, I don't think it is.
Yeah.
But if I did go to the cinema and pay, you know,
$20 or whatever it is for a ticket,
I wouldn't have walked away going like,
what a complete waste of my time.
Honestly, it felt like it got stronger as it went.
Yeah.
Like I enjoyed the characters more as it went on. The action sequences on the whole were really good.
It looked great.
Like it looked like a $200 million movie.
Yeah. And they've got at least $ like a $200 million movie. Yeah.
And they've got at least $70 back.
That's right, exactly.
And there was also a moment at the start before they put on Milan's makeup for the first time and it looked like one of those Facebook
cake tutorials when all the like the difference, you know,
when they film it from above and all the little pots and whatever
get placed out, like little jump cuts.
Sure.
Yeah.
And you were fully expecting somebody to be like,
hey, guys, what's up?
It's your boy, Dickface.
That's right.
We're here to do a Milan makeup tutorial.
I do have a question here from Jonah Jones who says, though,
did you go on your phone whilst watching Milan?
For a minute, but mostly not.
Same, mostly not.
I did take some notes, but also yes, but mostly not.
Right.
So credit to the movie Milan.
But also I was also like, I paid $35 for this. That's probably also the reason, yeah.
I think I did look at my phone for a second and be like, nah.
Yeah.
Looking at this for a minute is like 50 cents from this movie.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, but I would say, look, it's well made,
and if you were a fan of the original and ultimately what you want
is a live action version of that, it's what you're going to get.
I enjoyed it more than The Lion King, I think.
Sure.
Oh, the new one?
Yes.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah, yeah.
I guess if there was one thing I didn't particularly like,
it's what you mentioned, she doesn't train to get better.
She just is the chosen one or whatever.
Yeah, right.
I'm kind of a bit over that.
But how about like she got there because she trained hard
and she worked her way up and became equal if not better than others.
Yeah, right.
Don't you think that?
Not like just unlock your potential.
All right, I will.
Yeah, that's right.
I did it.
Chekhov's potential.
Yeah.
All I had to do was believe in myself and let my hair down and now I'm channeling my chi. Pretty sweet though. When she let her hair down, she's right. I did it. Chekhov's potential. Yeah. All I had to do was believe in myself and let my hair down,
and now I'm channel my chi.
You look pretty sweet, though, when she let her hair down.
She's doing sword stuff.
She's got that red outfit on.
Looking good.
Looking good.
Take your armor off in a battle.
Why not?
Why wouldn't you?
Good stuff.
That was rad.
But, yeah, look at it.
When she killed all those troops, when she killed them all,
I was like, whoa, nobody saw that.
That was rad, and nobody's going to appreciate that ever.
Because, you know, in the other movie. Except for us, the audience. Yeah, we appreciate it. But, you know, they didn't know she saw that. Nobody's like that was rad and nobody's going to appreciate that ever. Because, you know, in the other movie.
Except for us, the audience.
Yeah, we appreciate it.
But, you know, they didn't know she did that.
That's true.
It seems to me.
Anyway, go on.
What were you going to say?
I was going to say, yeah, look, pretty solid.
But ultimately if you have a million billion other pieces of entertainment.
Which you do.
Which you do and you don't want to spend $35.
Just wait.
Like it's not a piece of cinema that. Which you do and you don't want to spend $35. Yeah. Just wait. Yeah.
Like it's not a piece of cinema that can be spoiled ultimately,
I don't think.
So you don't have to watch it day one and it's not the kind
of movie that like elevates the game so much that you have
to see it now kind of thing.
You know, if they released like a Spider-Verse sequel.
Yeah.
You know, on streaming,
I'd be like, well, maybe this is going to blow my mind,
so I should probably get it today.
Yeah, right.
But this, it's, I'd be very comfortable waiting to see this, you know.
I would say also if you plan on watching it, don't be thieving because if you want to get Black Widow to streaming,
which we probably won't because cinemas are opening up everywhere
except here, it would say. Yes, that's right. Actually, they're letting because cinemas are opening up everywhere except here, it would say.
Yes, that's right.
Actually, they're letting us know what's happening with the lockdown here
as we speak, so we've got no idea what's going on.
Everybody's getting a Tenet screener.
Oh, why can't I have one, Mason?
No, in the letterbox.
We're all getting one delivered.
Oh, good.
That's okay then.
Good, good, good.
So, yeah, all in all, it came out and support it if you want to watch it
is what I'm saying.
All right.
Is that it?
Yeah.
Should we do the next segment of the show?
Let's do a new segment.
Of the show?
Yes.
All right, let me line up this theme song.
Okay.
Let's line up a theme song.
It's very exciting.
I'm doing the thing.
Westworld.
Everybody's come around on this Westworld thing, I think, Mason.
I think people hated it initially, but now I've broken them down.
And it's expected.
I've seen in the Reddit, people are like,
now I imagine it in previous episodes.
Yeah, I've seen some people have said, like, if I don't hear that, I'm liable to turn the podcast off and throw my phone in disgust.
So you've changed the world, James.
I feel like I have.
Can I quickly, before we talk about the boys,
can I talk about Marvel's Avengers?
Yes, did you get it?
Yeah, I got it.
I got the code.
We talked about it last week.
So I gave, first of all, I downloaded it and then it took forever
and I bought data on a separate dongle thing because I'm like,
I know I'm just chewing into my regular internet.
Bought yourself a data dongle.
Yeah, so I bought like $110 worth of data or something like that.
So the game was free.
The game cost me.
Yeah, the game was free because you got a promotional copy.
Yes.
But so and then I downloaded it and then I replayed the first mission,
which is A-Day and you play as all the different Avengers and whatever.
And then it said, this game isn't fully installed yet.
That's how they go, yeah.
I'm like, what are you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is sort of like six fucking hours.
So then I had to come back to it the next day.
Great.
And look, I think it's the story's good.
I think focusing on Kamala Khan and you meet all the different Avengers
at the start, I'm like, oh, this looks like it might be a bit cheesy,
but it's like Avengers Comic Con where she like runs into Thor
and Captain America and that, and it's quite fun.
But I feel like the combat is still, it's too imprecise and button smashy.
Like I feel like I'm trying to line someone up and it's not,
it just doesn't feel like it's quite there.
And the reason I stopped playing is because I was in a gear,
like it forced me into a gear menu to upgrade my gear at one point.
And then it, by the way, and it's like, look,
you've got these new gauntlets or whatever.
Wait, be specific.
Who has the new gauntlets?
I think it was Hulk.
It was a Hulk mission.
Hulk's got some new gauntlets.
Which is the one I'd done before.
Yeah, yeah, nice.
It was from the beta.
And also the gear is, it looks different in the menu,
but you don't wear it outside of it.
So it's numbers.
Okay, right.
It's like numbers that go up.
Well, I can't even imagine Hulk wearing gauntlets.
Anything extra that you want cosmetically you have to purchase, right?
Can you grind for it?
Yeah, I don't know.
Okay.
Either way, gross.
Yeah.
So anyway, I couldn't get out of the menu due to a glitch.
Okay.
Like I was saying like select this and then it was like one of these
prompt on the screen that I couldn't get rid of.
So I literally was trapped in this menu and I just went fuck it
and I just stopped playing it.
So that's where I'm at.
I just went I don't care.
I'm not battling through all this.
I know a lot of people seem to be enjoying the single player campaign.
They're quite on board with it.
But for me, no, I'm not doing that.
Here's something that I read and I don't know if this is true.
There are not that many supervillains in it.
No, apparently not.
And it's mostly aimed facilities, which is what I was worried
it was going to be.
Because I've seen in various trailers, I know Taskmaster is in it
and The Abomination is in it and MODOK is in it.
And I don't know who else is in it.
A couple of others maybe.
I want to cavalcade a villain.
I've seen all of those.
Having what I've played, I've seen
those ones. I think they should have focused
very much on
the less characters, more focused
story and have you
multiplayer skin shit or whatever but that
seems to be the bulk of it is like
when you finish the game, there's new challenges
every week.
This is the model of Destiny 2
that has this thing of like it's a never ending campaign of like every week and it's like, no, I don't want this. This is the model of like, I think, is it Destiny 2? Yeah, it's that.
It's a shooter.
It's a never-ending campaign of like every week you get,
there's a new system to unlock.
But they're not interesting.
If you've played any of that outside campaign stuff,
it's not good.
It's just like an arena and some robots run in
and you've got to stop a switch from being hit
or whatever the fuck.
Or make a switch get hit.
Or make a switch get hit. Or make a switch get hit.
Either way, those robots are not having it.
There's moments in it where I'm like, this could be great.
And also I know part of this is me going into this
with certain expectations for it to be a thing that's not this.
Like it's unfair for me to go, this is not a game that I want to play.
Sure.
Like that's on me.
You seem to have gone into this very reluctantly.
I mean you did play the beta and you were like,
no, I don't like this, but I'll continue to do this.
Yeah, but more data on my dongle, please.
That's right.
So I think there, look, I might come back to it at some point
to play through the single player, which is about 10 hours.
But like time for me, that's irrelevant how long it is.
If it's good, I don't care if it's three hours.
I don't care if it's an hour.
I'll pay for it if it's good.
But all this other shit, like I don't want to encourage that.
I just, again, if you love looter shooters,
you'll probably get a kick out of this.
And I don't have a problem with those games.
They're just not for me because I'm an old man.
Do you think?
No.
Not even once in my life.
Mystery solved. Do you think that this is the game model
for everything going forward or for a lot of things i think they want it to be but i'm hoping
there's pushback on this because i'd rather something in the in the realm of spider-man ps4
yeah the reason spider-man ps4 because it can exist is because that's a system seller and this
isn't and even though i can rag all day on Square Enix
and all these other companies that are involved in the making of this,
but PlayStation still get money from this also.
So the reason they can make something like that is because other things
like this exist, which are these ongoing cash cows.
Well, that's exactly, yeah.
I mean, I guess ultimately what is going to happen is if this does well
and people go, oh, I do need in-game credit so I am going to pay $50,
$100 every couple of weeks or whatever, then that's going to be –
this will become the model going forward.
Yeah.
I think we are going to get a mix but just this idea that – I don't know.
I think they're grossly –
I think they're grossly.
Yes.
Quite frankly.
I think they're looking – they're trying Quite frankly. I think they're looking...
They're trying to make as much money as
possible, which is a business. I understand that.
But these are not the kind of games that I think a lot
of people... BigSandwich.co. Yeah, that's right.
Exactly. But a lot of people
including me are not interested in
playing. I want single player
stories that I can play
and then put down and never think about ever
again. That's right.
Except sometimes you're going to have horrible nightmares where your hands go really big. stories that I can play and then put down and never think about ever again. That's right. But that's, but.
Except sometimes you're going to have horrible nightmares where your hands go really big.
Yeah, that's right.
Big and rubbery.
Big and rubbery.
And you're like, oh, Claire, I've got big rubbery hands, you know?
Yeah, exactly.
But the reason they can make Spider-Man is because also like if you, if you make that
game, I'm buying a PlayStation 4 for that Spider-Man game.
If I didn't have one.
I did buy a PlayStation 4 for that game.
Exactly.
So, you know, and nobody's buying a system for this.
Right.
Anyway, whatever.
Suckers.
Suckers.
The Boys Season 3 has started.
Luckily for us, only the first three episodes.
I was going to say, look, honestly, thank God.
Well, you know what?
I'm okay with it.
They released it in the
format of how you're supposed to
release a podcast, which is put up three
episodes to show people you're serious.
Then you put out one episode a week.
That's right. For how many weeks?
How many are there? Is it eight or ten?
No idea.
Yeah, so it's good,
isn't it? But I was going to say, yes,
it is good, but I think it's also this format works for me. Yeah, so it's, I mean, it's good, isn't it? But I was going to say, yes, it is good.
But I think it's also, this format works for me.
One, we didn't have to shotgun 10 episodes in a day.
Remember those, like, Daredevil episodes and that we did?
Yes. We'd do, like, there's 12 episodes of Daredevil we have to watch.
Here we go.
Yeah.
I mean, you could cut out the middle ones.
But still, yeah, I mean, but this also works, you know,
given this, you know, we're in an uncertain time where who knows
when new stuff is coming out.
I kind of appreciate the idea that we can have a weekly watch
and kind of, you know, some destination viewing, you know.
Every Friday or Saturday we can just watch one episode of this
and catch up on the continuing adventures of some horrible people.
Yeah, they're all horrible, aren't they?
So there's a few new characters that are introduced. We're going to do another, like I mentioned, we're going to do another episode on this. Yeah, they're all horrible, aren't they? So there's a few new characters that are introduced.
We're going to do another episode on this.
Oh, yeah.
This is our world famous, much demanded sub section of the podcast.
Who watches?
The second season of the TV show, The Boys.
Brackets.
James and Mason are.
Brackets.
Weekly Planet Podcast.
Anyway, it's us.
We're watching it.
We're doing it again.
We're doing it again.
The people have demanded it.
It's a good show.
So there's not much Billy business initially, is there?
No.
Which is good, I think, because there's a lot of like,
where is this guy?
Oh, so spoilers for the boys for three episodes.
But, I mean, if you like the first season, definitely check this out.
Is it?
I think it might be better than the first season.
It's certainly.
It's too early to tell.
Yeah, maybe.
But, I mean, we have the pre-established team already.
You don't need to reintroduce anybody or kill anybody's girlfriend
to get motivation.
Yes.
They're all already there.
Enough girlfriends were killed in the first.
They had that covered.
Yeah.
Although I suspect there might be another girlfriend on the way
to being killed.
No doubt.
So a big plot point.
If you're not a fan of that sort of stuff, which understandably
might not be, maybe don't watch this show because, again,
it's grim and grisly in a different way to the comic book is definitely
where they're just all awful people and all sexual deviants
and just monsters.
And there's a little bit of that but it's more just like murdering people
and getting rid of them.
Yeah, there's a lot of people sort of trapped in the corporate machine
and people trapped in their own addictions
and people sort of trapped with their own secrets
and that sort of thing in this.
They're not just awful for the sake of being awful.
Except for Homelander who's most, I mean, he's got his reasons.
Yeah, for sure.
His blonde hair is like, it's scene to scene,
I'm like, what's going on
here with this blonde hair? Right. Because, you know, he's bleaching his hair. He's a dark haired
man in real life. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, just something I thought I'd bring up.
I wrote Homelander hair. That was one of my two notes. So it's not a wig? No, it's a bleach. He's
a New Zealand dude. Oh, really? Yeah. Like Carl Urban. What, they can't wear wigs? No, they're
not allowed. Jacinta Arden was very much against it. Oh, yeah, right, right.
She put in that new mandate.
But, no, so Storm Shadow is a new inclusion.
Do you mean Storm Front?
Storm Front, sorry, thank you.
Storm Shadow is from G.O. Joe, yes.
So what's the deal?
I don't think I'm up to this.
What's Storm Front look like in the comics?
A man.
Yes, but like what, same costume or?
Not really, no.
Yeah, right.
More red in it, I think.
More bread in it.
More red in it.
Yeah, he looks a bit like, what's his name?
He looks like a Nazi version of Captain Marvel.
That'll do it, yeah.
Not the Shazam.
That's what I meant.
Yes, yeah, you're right.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, right.
I've been interested to delve into the backstory of that character
because when you meet her, she doesn't seem like a Nazi.
She's like a social media.
Yeah.
Then again, some Nazis are like social media.
Darlings, yeah.
Darlings, so, you know, that's not that uncommon.
But I think the Deep looks like he's getting an interesting storyline.
He's getting an arc.
He's kind of coming to terms with, again,
people trapped in their own problems.
He's coming to terms with the reason he is so awful to women is because he is
afraid of what they will think of him and so he lashes out first is the
reasoning there because he's got horrible gills.
That's right, exactly.
Or beautiful gills as voiced by Pat Noss.
That's right, exactly, yeah.
So I think, I don't know, I wonder whether he's going to make it
through this season.
I feel like A-Train's heart is probably going to explode,
like literally.
He's going to run too fast and his heart's going to explode.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
That's an interesting dynamic between him and, what's her name?
Starlight.
Starlight, yeah.
Where they both seem to have something on each other
and they're both not entirely happy with the situation
but they're just like, I guess we're like, I guess this is what it is.
It's a good set up for the season.
I kind of wish it was maybe two or three a week, I guess.
Okay.
Just so I could see more of it.
Okay.
That's a ringing endorsement, I think.
Yeah, no, definitely.
But I was also relieved that it wasn't all at once.
What else is good in this season?
Violence, breaking somebody's hands off. Oh, yeah, there's no shortage of that. No, there really wasn't all at once. What else is good in this season? Violence, breaking somebody's hands off.
Oh, yeah, that's, yeah.
There's no shortage of that.
No, there really wasn't.
Well, what I was going to say is the reason I'm enjoying this again
is because it has deviated from the comic books enough where it's like,
well, who is going to live and die?
We don't know necessarily.
No, that's right, yeah.
I thought it was entirely possible that when Homelander threw his son
off the roof, the kid was just going to die.
Yeah, same, yeah.
Because you don't know.
Yeah.
You don't know this universe.
Because also up to that point I'm like, is this actually his son?
Because what if it isn't?
What if he just threw a kid off his roof?
I also love the storyline how Billy Butcher,
he was obviously dropped there by Homelander
and then taken somewhere else.
So he's just like madly scrawled down every kind of little detail
about the neighbourhood so he can find it again.
But it's not a real neighbourhood evidently.
Yeah, so what's going on there do you think?
It seems to be like a sort of military facility.
I don't know.
Are they shipping people in to be neighbours?
Like a Truman Show situation.
Maybe.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah.
Do you think they're doing – it seems like they're doing it that way
so they don't get a lunatic Homelander again because he wasn't raised,
you know, he was raised in a lab and he has all these fake stories
about growing up on a farm and his family.
Yeah.
So I think they're maybe trying to make a good one.
I don't know.
Yeah, maybe.
When are the boys going to get superpowers is the question.
Do you think they're going to,
I think they said they weren't going to do it in season two.
Oh, okay.
But I don't know whether that's –
When are they going to shoot some guns?
Yeah, soon probably.
Yeah, soon probably soon, yeah.
Yeah, after they're done driving through that whale.
Yeah, but it seems like you could synthesize that, you know,
whatever the drug is.
Compound V, yeah.
Compound V to a pill that lasts 15 minutes or whatever if you wanted to.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, I think that may be where it's headed.
But, yeah, I mean, again, hopefully we'll get another season of this.
Yeah.
It's confirmed.
Oh, it is confirmed.
Okay, good.
We're definitely getting it.
All right, good.
So there you go.
Well, hopefully whoever is making this has the sense to know when they are not going
to get another season and will finish the show off properly.
That sounds good to me, mate.
It would be nice, wouldn't it?
Yeah, I love when shows finish.
I was thinking about that show.
The Truman Show? Yeah. Do nice, wouldn't it? Yeah, I love when shows finish. I was thinking about that show. The Truman Show?
Yeah.
Do you ever see that show?
Yeah.
Do you ever see that TV series?
Go on.
I think it was called Almost Human with Carl Urban.
It was from like 2013.
Is he a ghost or something?
No, Mason, you idiot.
You're thinking of a different movie or show.
So it was called Almost Human.
It came out in 2013.
It was him and Michael Ealy and he was paired up with an android.
Oh, yeah.
And they were like, it was kind of Minority Report
but you've got a robot mate.
And I really liked it.
It was only one season.
But, yeah, I was like, ah, Carl Urban, do more things.
And he does.
He's very busy.
That's right.
He's very busy.
He's busy fielding questions about, you know, Judge Dredd sequels
and TV shows.
He's like, yes, I'll do it.
I'll do it if they do it, but I'm probably not going to do it.
It seems like they're doing it.
Did you see one of the – who was it who posted this week?
Josh Brolin will be a great Judge Dredd and Carl Urban.
He clapped back, Mason.
Oh, did he?
Yeah.
All right.
Just as a bit of fun.
But he would be a great Judge Dredd, but I'd prefer Urban to come back.
Yeah, fair enough.
But Brolin, yeah, would be a good choice.
Did you see somebody on Twitter posted a bunch of pictures of Patrick Wilson
and was like, this guy said, I'm going to be in a million movies,
but I absolutely refuse to be famous.
And then Patrick Wilson's like, you got me.
You thwarted me, my plan.
He's in a million movies.
He's great.
He's always in like three movies a year and you're like,
oh, it's Patrick Wilson.
I like that guy.
But I wouldn't stop him in the street because he seems like a regular guy.
That's hilarious.
Anyway, the boy is good stuff.
Love it.
Can't wait to see where it's going to go.
Who do you want to see explode?
Homelander.
That won't be for a while.
What do you think his weakness is?
Being punched. Or poisoned milk? Yeah. That won't be for a while. No. What do you think his weakness is? Being punched.
Yeah.
Or poisoned milk.
Yeah.
He can be physically bested, I feel.
By whom?
Well, his son shoves him.
Oh, that's true, actually.
Or his son kills him.
But I feel like, I don't know what happens to him in the comics
because I'm not up to date.
I think it would probably be that.
I think he's more powerful in the show than he is in the comic books,
I think. But also, like, they drop a bunch be that. I think he's more powerful in the show than he is in the comic books, I think.
But also, like, they drop a bunch of stuff on him and he's stuck for a little bit.
Like, he doesn't have super hearing or x-ray vision or anything like that.
He's like, yeah, he's got all the brute force.
Yeah, he's not on a Superman style level.
He's kind of like, he's got all the outward powers of Superman,
but he can't, like, you know, rescue a plane load of people or anything like that.
He also looks like he's got cotton buds in his mouth sometimes.
I always wonder about that.
What's going on there?
Is he brandoing it?
Maybe it's teeth.
Might be his fake teeth.
Maybe he's got like pearly white superhero teeth.
You're probably right, yeah.
Maybe that's what it is.
I would like to see appearance of Tech Knight who is like this.
He's been mentioned repeatedly.
Oh, he's a Batman-esque dude, isn't he?
Well, he's more of an Iron Man kind of guy.
He's kind of like, because all the heroes in this universe
are the result of Compound V.
I'm wondering if he is super smart because he's been affected
by Compound V.
Oh, okay.
Or a super resolve or something.
Yeah, because we get in this season, we get Eagle the Archer
who appears to have been given, he has superhuman accuracy
because of Compound V, I think.
And there's that daredevil dude, which that was brutal.
Oh, yeah.
I figured out him.
Oh, my God.
Why did he do that?
Because he's mean and horrible.
He's mean and horrible, yeah.
That'll do it.
That's interesting.
So is he like a billionaire tech knight?
Is he a billionaire in the comics?
I can't remember.
No, he's just like a pervert with a suit of armor.
Oh, I do remember that. Yeah, okay. Good for him. It is good. Well comics? I can't remember. No, he's just like a pervert with a suit of armour. Oh, I do remember that.
Yeah, okay.
Good for him.
It is good.
Something I read this week.
Did you read Three Jokers?
I have read.
Let's talk about Three Jokers.
Let's talk about how many Jokers there are.
There's currently three Jokers.
There's three Jokers.
Spoilers for the comic book Three Jokers.
Yes.
Now, for people who don't know, in the DC comic books many years ago.
I remember.
DC comic books many years ago.
I remember.
Batman receives a sort of a premonition of sorts or some sort of vision that rather than there being one Joker, as he's always believed,
there are in fact three Jokers.
Because his computer says one Joker.
That's right.
And Alfred's always like, one Joker, sir.
Yeah, that's right.
But so this, and it's a plot point that was sort of shoved away,
but now it's kind of been brought back to the forefront with this.
It's going to be the revelation of why there are, in fact, three Jokers.
Is it the one Joker who created two other Jokers?
Yes, I think.
Oh, you think it is?
What do you think it is?
Yeah, maybe.
Because I feel like there's a core one and the other ones were like.
Yeah, and the other two seem to be subordinate to him.
Yes.
Yeah.
But that might be a misdirect.
Right.
And the plot line of this thus far with issue one is three Jokers appear
around Gotham City committing various crimes and Red Hood
and Batgirl and Batman are trying to track them down
and determine how he's seemingly managed to be freaked crimes
at the same time.
All the evidence points to like it's the same guy.
Like it's not like they're imposters.
It's like this is literally the same guy.
Yeah, right.
And what the Jokers seem to be up to is potentially trying
to create more Jokers with.
Joker Squad.
Yes.
That's right.
Yeah.
So because, yeah, we've got like the Damien, not Damien Wayne,
the Jason Todd crowbar Joker.
There's the one who shot Barbara Gordon from The Killing Joke
and there's the main Joker.
That's what it's saying.
Design-wise at least.
Yeah.
So I don't know whether that's going to tie into like this Joker did that
and this Joker did that and this Joker did that.
Were you confused from panel to panel and page to page?
I was a little bit.
I'd have to read it again, but I don't remember being too.
Okay.
In terms of who was who?
Yeah.
How do you think this is going to shake out if you had to guess?
I think there's one Joker making a joke.
Jokers are making a joke.
Okay, but do you think there will be more Jokers by the end of this? Yes. Or do you think
they'll be, we'll be back to a one
joker status quo? Oh, no, no, they'll
be back to one joker, yeah.
That's what I think, yeah. It's always the way.
They're not going to end and be like, there's ten.
Maybe they will, though.
There's going to be ten forever. Maybe they will, though.
Everything's always status quo with comics. Yeah, I guess so.
Things barely stick, ever.
Sometimes they do. But I mean, you know, there's like five Robins now
all doing different Robin stuff in slightly different masks.
What if one Joker becomes the rib tickler
and one Joker becomes the yarn spinner, you know?
He's not as funny but he tells a compelling yarn.
Oh, so you're like this is okay.
It's a guy you get bailed up with a party and you're like,
this will do.
I'll just stand next to this guy.
Yeah, no, no, maybe.
And he'd be like, you know, he spins you a yarn and you're like,
you should start a podcast.
Spin some yarns on it.
He's like, well, maybe I will.
I don't know.
He'd send out a signal and turn everyone into the Joker though.
He probably would.
You wouldn't want to encourage him to do that.
That is classic, the yarn spinner.
Anyway, that's maybe, I'm thinking, thinking because again you know there's there's you know
one robin became the red hood you might be right maybe they're gonna maybe there's gonna be an evil
squad yeah until the universe is rebooted at which point they'll be see that's what dc has this fail
so that's what i'm talking in the sense that well i mean but they can make big changes and then wait
five years and go we just there's just gonna Joker again. We actually didn't like that either.
You all didn't like it, we didn't like it.
That's right, yeah.
We were against that.
Yeah, and it was actually the fault of a fictional character
who was just created by someone.
We don't like him either.
He's in our bad books, but he did it.
It's not our fault that he did it.
That's it.
Yeah.
Great stuff.
It is great stuff.
All in all.
I'm very intrigued, but I think maybe I, yeah, maybe we'll revisit Three Jokers when it's it. Great stuff. It is great stuff. All in all. I'm very intrigued, but I think maybe we'll revisit Three Jokers
when it's finished.
See what's happening in Three Jokers.
Yeah, see how many Jokers there are at the end.
Three.
Three Jokers.
What's next, Mason?
Next is the letters segment.
Yes.
The classic one was letters, oh letters, we love you.
Some letters, they're only a day away.
I know they're here right now, we're going to do letters.
I'll just be bringing up my letters because you can actually reach the show
hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter and we'll read out some of your Twitters.
And weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com if you want to be like,
here's an email, here's what's cool and hot.
Yes, that's right.
Yeah. What do you think? I think it's good. Just Here's what's cool and hot. Yes, that's right. Yeah.
What do you think?
I think it's good.
Just got one here quickly, says,
Andreas says, will you ever discuss Palm Springs?
I think we did.
We did briefly, but we didn't give away anything.
I did Unsuggestable.
I talked about Unsuggestable, my less successful podcast.
But, yeah.
What have you got in terms of letters?
I do have more letters.
Yeah, here's a couple.
Let's have a look here.
This one, we've got a couple of people emailing from Louisiana, USA.
This is David Leloo.
Here we go.
He says, hey, guys.
I love your show.
The city I live in, Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA,
was just demolished by a hurricane.
Boom.
It's been super stressful.
I agree.
We've been living with no water or electricity for a week
and it will most likely go another seven to eight weeks. I'm not optimistic about it, but I've been able to listen to y'all's show, I agree. We've been living with no water or electricity for a week and it will most likely go another seven to eight weeks.
I'm not optimistic about it,
but I've been able to listen to y'all's show a lot more.
That's some Louisiana talking right there for us.
That's what you're doing.
He's translated it into the writing.
I was going to say, I didn't understand that.
It's one of the few things that makes this bearable.
Y'all are awesome.
So thank you, David.
Thank you.
Good luck, man.
And we've got another email from...
What an awful situation.
I know, it's no good.
This is from John from
Louisiana. Hey guys, love the podcast. I've been
listening for a few years but never written. Just seemed like a lot of work.
But I wanted to say thanks for making it. It is a lot
of work. But I wanted to say thanks for making things
a little better. Sometimes things are bad, like with everything
that's happening in the world right now, but then you get hit with a hurricane
and think it can't get much worse than this,
but then you lose power and are left just sitting in the dark
without anything to pass the time. Finally, I
remembered I had some pre-downloaded
Weekly Planet episodes on my phone.
I know others have it way worse than me,
but thanks for giving me something to listen to.
But also, that's pretty bad.
It's nice that you're like, others have it worse.
I mean, yeah, sure.
But that's really bad also.
Well, to John and David, I just hope power gets restored
and everybody in Louisiana.
Absolutely. No, just them. Just those two. Just the listeners of our show. Just gets restored and everybody in Louisiana. Absolutely.
No, just them.
Just those two.
Just the listeners of our show.
Just two lights going on in Louisiana.
So they can subscribe to Big Sandwich.
That's exactly right.
Yeah, that's no good.
Also, topic idea, standalone versus franchise.
What standalone movies would you like to have seen explored further
and what franchises should have stopped at one?
Stay Gold, Pony Boys, John from Louisiana.
That's a good topic.
We should do that.
We'll write it down.
Put it on our topic list of topics.
Great.
What are we doing next week?
I don't know.
We could probably do that.
Maybe that.
Depending if we can see tenants this week.
Probably not.
Unlikely.
Yeah.
What have you got?
You got some emails?
It's from Lachlan.
Sorry, I do have one from Lachlan.
First, I have one from Gay Gravy's Finest Hour.
Good name.
Hashtag weekly planet pod.
If you cut off Wolverine's head, does the body grow a new head
or does the head grow a new body or do both grow back
and now there's two Wolverines?
So, yeah.
He dies.
He dies, yeah.
So he doesn't regenerate limbs.
I mean, it's depending on versions, but that's the general consensus, right?
I think so, yeah.
Yeah.
Because there's a version in a parallel timeline where Cyclops lays his hand off and he's just got a stump.
So I guess so, yeah.
Why did Cyclops do that?
For love?
Yeah, yeah.
As long as it was justified.
I think so.
Yeah, okay.
So it's not one of those you cut him down the middle and there's no.
I don't think so.
I think he would just die.
He would die, yeah.
Deadpool, who knows? I think there's been different I don't think so. I think he would just die. He would die, yeah. Deadpool, who knows?
Who knows?
I think there's been different interpretations of that guy.
You can also, you can remove one half of a person's brain
and the other half will compensate.
You can actually do that.
I mean, not like willy-nilly.
Sure.
There is surgery involved.
Sure, you can't just.
To the nth degree.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
But that is possible.
You can live with half a brain.
Those people are in parliament, aren't they, Jaz?
They're working in parliament.
He's got them.
And congressmen.
He's got them.
And House of Representatives.
Politicians around the world operating with half a brain.
All of them.
I don't like them.
They're doing a bad job mostly.
They didn't hear this, but they would have felt that.
They would have been like, oof, like a twinge.
That's right, yeah, yeah.
In the empty spot in their head where the other half of their brain
is supposed to be.
I don't know.
I feel like, yeah, you're right.
A lot of people in power are just like they just want to be there.
It's not necessarily about doing good.
It's just like I want to be in charge.
I want to tell people.
And I think they should get their heads chopped off.
See how much grows back. See how much grows back. And I think they should get their heads chopped off. We'll see.
See how much grows back.
That's all I'm saying. What else you got in terms of letters? There's another one from Trinidad.
Hello. Hey guys, I was listening to the pod while
driving and to my surprise, a Trini
wrote in. Yeah. So that's apparently what you
called if you're from Trinidad. I didn't know that.
I didn't know that. Just had to take the
opportunity to tell you all you have more listeners in
Trinidad supporting you.
Enjoy every second of the pod.
It helps me through tough and trying times.
Keep doing what you're doing.
You have the support of another faithful guy from Trinidad.
That's Joseph.
That's awesome.
Two people.
Yeah.
We're going to get them all soon.
Everybody in Trinidad.
Yeah, that's how we're going to do it.
We could be the kings of Trinidad.
Oh, that'd be great.
We'd be politicians?
Yeah.
Yes.
We'd have to get some of our brains removed.
Yeah, at least half.
It's from Lachlan Everett.
Hashtag weeklyplanetpod.
I'd be interested to know what you – I think we might have answered this before.
I can't remember.
But I'd be interested to know your answer to this.
What was your dream job as young adults and what happened
or didn't happen to lead to where you are now?
All right.
So what was the thing when you were a kid you're like,
I want to be a race car.
I think I mentioned this not on a podcast,
but I did mention it on one of our Q&As once.
When I was a kid, I wanted to be a private detective.
That's right.
Because I'd seen, I assume I had seen, I think I'd seen Magnum PI
and some like old-timey like Maltese Falcon detective stuff.
And I'm like, well, regardless of the situation,
you get to wear a Hawaiian shirt and drive around a Ferrari.
That's right. And you solve mysteries, but the rules of being situation, you get to wear a Hawaiian shirt and drive around a Ferrari. That's right.
And you solve mysteries,
but the rules of being a policeman don't seem to apply to you.
You don't have to be arrested nobody.
You just get in a fist fight and drive off in your Ferrari.
But you're friends with some of the law.
Exactly.
But they don't like you, but you get results kind of thing.
That's right.
And I'm like, this seems wild and fun.
And then I think, you know, very shortly afterwards,
you look into it
and you're like, well, you've got to – it's almost exclusively –
It's just cheating husbands.
Yeah, it's – there's no Ferraris.
It's almost exclusively sitting in an old Toyota Corolla outside like a gym
or whatever waiting to take photos of a cheating spouse or whatever.
And, yeah.
There's a private detective in Search Party.
Have you seen Search Party?
I have seen Search Party, yeah.
Yeah, and that's like played by Ron Livingston. And that's like I would imagine a more accurate representation of what it? I have seen Search Party, yeah. Yeah, and that's played by Ron Livingston. And that's like
I would imagine a more accurate representation
of what it is. For sure, yeah.
I knew a guy from my school who
went on to become a private detective.
He was fucking awful. Like
an awful bloke beforehand. Right, yeah. And I'm like,
yeah, that's... And a pervert, probably?
Probably, yeah. And I'm like, that makes sense that
this guy would go to this line of work.
And I think I also mentioned on the Q&A that I was having a conversation with somebody about this exact Probably. And I'm like, that makes sense that this guy would go to this line of work. And I think I also mentioned on the Q&A that I was having a conversation
with somebody about this exact thing and she was like, yeah,
and being a private investigator doesn't even pay that much money
so you're sitting in a car or whatever.
Yeah.
And I'm like, really?
And she's like, yeah, because I knew a guy who was a private detective
and he also owned a pie face.
Oh, right.
I think you told me that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For people who don't know, the now mostly defunct 24-hour savoury pie fast food restaurant.
If you want an old warm pie, mate.
Do you like them?
I do, yeah.
I do, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But again, what I enjoy about that, like that's the funniest,
for me that's the funniest combination of jobs jobs because realistically what has happened there is obviously
he's a successful franchise owner and he's decided
with his extra money he's just going to live this, again,
childhood fantasy and be like, I'm going to be a PI,
it's going to be cool kind of thing.
But what I like to think is that he's actually
like the best Sherlock Holmes-esque consulting detective
in the world, but he hates it.
But the only reason he does it is to keep this failing pie face open.
That's why, like, people come from far and wide
to get these mysteries solved, and he's like,
ugh, all right, okay, I've got to keep the lights on
on this pie face, because that's what I like to do.
I like putting the lids on those pies.
Oh, absolutely.
Are they making those pies in-house?
I think so.
I don't believe it.
Or maybe they get them off a truck.
I think they get them off a truck. I think they get them off a truck.
I wanted to be an artist.
Okay.
In a way you are.
No.
Like a painting artist.
No, like a drawer, like drawing stuff.
And I was a pretty good drawer as a kid and my skills never progressed
because I cannot remember who, but somebody was like,
oh, so yeah, you want to be like a poor struggling artist.
And I'm like, no.
So I thought that you could not make money out of it.
That's what was kind of, because I went to a school that was like,
be management, work in a bank.
Again, nothing wrong with that.
But so it just kind of got like drilled out of me that you don't make it,
which is now I realize that's obviously not true.
Somebody has to do that stuff. I remember being told, I think in like grade one or whatever, me that you don't make it which is now i realize that's obviously not true well i think somebody
has to do that stuff i remember being told like i think in like you know grade one or whatever like
i you'd write little short stories and i think i remember a teacher saying you could be a writer
except there's no money in it yeah exactly okay well i guess if well if not if a person older than
me said it if a person who in retrospect was probably 29 told me there's money, there's no money in being a writer, I guess I can't be a writer.
Yeah.
But the stuff that's out there that people are creating,
somebody's doing it.
Yeah.
So why not you?
Here's a good example.
We both follow on Twitter.
Tristan the Peas.
Oh, yeah.
He's an amazing artist and I love all the stuff that she posts.
And she seems like she's living a pretty sweet-ass lifestyle, mate.
Yeah. There's money, I'd say. That's right. And she seems like she's living a pretty sweet-ass lifestyle, mate. Yeah.
There's money, I'd say.
That's right.
And don't do it for like –
There's always money in the pie face is all I'm saying.
But, you know, there's also like – do you follow that For Exposure account?
No.
Oh, I see.
It's just people asking for free art and stuff like that.
It's just like can you just do me a like off of Twitter?
They're like, oh, it's this much.
And I'm like, oh, it's a bit much. And it's like, well, it's not doing it for free, am I? So I don't know, yeah. It's just like, can you just do me a like on Twitter? They're like, oh, it's this much. And I'm like, oh, it's a bit much.
And it's like, well, I'm doing it for free, am I?
So I don't know, man.
That's how it is.
Do what you want is what I'm saying.
Exactly.
Anything else?
What have we got?
I've got a whole bunch of stuff.
I've got a bunch of emails.
A lot of stuff, Mason.
Let's have a look.
Okay, this is from Daniel.
Hello, Daniel.
Daniel from Oregon.
Hello, Daniel from Oregon.
Hey, guys, I've been a long-time viewer of the show.
I've been subscribed for the last four years.
I've listened to the pod since last year and I've almost finished listening
to the whole back catalogue while I work as a janitor
for a small health clinic.
You guys allow me to prevent myself from hearing the waiting room music
that plays the whole time.
Just switch it out.
Yeah, nice.
For this, Mason.
If you could.
Yeah, totally.
And then listen to the waiting music on your earbuds.
That's right.
Really get the full experience.
I was hoping I could be the official janitor of the podcast.
Absolutely.
Done and done.
Also, I hope you and all your editors are all doing well during this pandemic,
especially James.
As you can tell, prior to the pandemic, he was already losing his mind.
Correct.
Look, I'll be lying if I said I wouldn't be doing much anyway.
But it's more taxing on my kid who can't see his friends.
That's true. Bullshit, man. Yeah. What's, uh, yeah, that's
good. It is good. Yeah, we're doing okay. And the editors seem to be doing
okay from what I can tell. Ben, Matt and Mitch, just out in the universe.
What are they up to? Who knows? That's right. I've got one here, Mason.
I'm ready, James. Jordan says, what is one movie from your childhood you wish you could experience
again for the first time?
Movie, first time.
Childhood.
Yeah.
I'd love to see The Lord of the Rings again.
Yeah, right.
Those movies.
Though I was like in my late teens when those came out.
Oh, yeah, sure, sure, sure.
That counts, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Star Wars?
Batman 89.
Yeah?
Don't you think you'd be like, this is weird.
Are we seeing it as an adult?
Yes.
Yeah, but I mean, it's a swing though, isn't it? Yeah, it's a massive swing, yeah. Oh, yeah, you think you'd be like, this is weird? Are we seeing it as an adult? Yes. Yeah, but I mean it's a swing though, isn't it?
Yeah, it's a massive swing, yeah.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
I like it.
What about Batman Forever or Batman Returns?
No.
No?
Well, I think I'd appreciate them more now as an adult though.
You're probably right.
But you'd have to know that they were made then, right?
You couldn't be like, somebody just made this.
Yeah, that's true.
Like, who would make this now?
What is this?
Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't understand.
You're absolutely right. If it was like, here's,. Like, who would make this now? What is this? Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't understand. They're absolutely right.
If it was like, here's, they filmed this and then it never got released
and it's been in an archive somewhere.
Yeah.
Like, this is amazing that they didn't release this.
I mean, it's weird.
It does rarely happen.
I mean, Fantastic Four.
You know what I did watch the other day which I'd never seen?
Uh-huh.
Cube.
Remember the movie Cube?
I remember the movie Cube.
And that was kind of like a time capsule of like a completely new thing that
is 20 plus years old.
And I'm like,
this is all right,
man.
It's mostly in a cube.
Spoiler alert.
But I remembered about halfway through.
I'm like,
I remember back to high school and somebody told me the ending of cube.
Cause I was like,
I'll never see the movie cube.
And then,
and then it just popped into my head.
This thought I'd haven't had in 20 years. And I'm like, great. never see the movie Cube. And then it just popped into my head, this thought I haven't had
in 20 years, and I'm like, great.
Like that's the thing that I remember.
Now I know the ending to the movie Cube, which I'm watching now.
Yeah, so it was right.
I'm thinking of watching Cube 2 and then Cube Year Zero.
Just getting in on the Cube.
Cube 2 Hypercube.
Yeah, I'm getting in on the Cube.
Have you seen Cube?
I've seen Cube, yeah.
It's filmed in one cube, but they make it look like it's more than one cube.
They're not going to different cubes.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Oh, you know what I would have liked?
You know what I'd like to see again?
I don't know if it's childhood.
It might be a little after that.
But I would like to see Dark City again for the first time.
Yeah.
But the version where they don't have the scroll at the start that explains what the movie is.
Speaking of spoilers.
I think it was 98.
I think that still counts for you.
Yeah, because if you haven't seen Dark City, it's a cool noir-ish mystery.
It takes a real big twist sort of in the middle.
But if you watch it in cinemas, the studio insisted
on like an opening crawl that explained what was going
to happen in the movie.
And you go, oh, that's what's going to happen.
Did you see Dark City in cinemas?
Yes, I did, yeah.
So that's the version you watched?
Yes.
Terrific.
Yeah.
But the director's cut, like you get on DVDs,
are basically identical except they've taken that out
so you can actually be surprised by it.
So that's the movie.
That's a great –
And it still holds up.
I've watched it recently.
It's good.
And so that opens with just a bunch of question marks
and you're like, whoa, this suspense is killing me.
It starts with director Alex Proyas just in a cubicle.
It's like in a janitor's closet.
I don't know.
What's going to happen?
I'm working this out with you.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Maybe I'll make Gods of Egypt next.
What about, well, wait.
What about Matrix?
The Matrix.
Oh, yeah, that's a good one.
A good one.
But again, if you saw that now, would you be like,
this is reminiscent of many things?
Yeah, well, I guess that's true, yeah.
To watch something now, you'd have to erase everything else that has kind of come
since it yeah there we go that's my last question but you have any more question uh let's see oh
this is from luca hello my name is luca we know luca and i'm a south african stranded on the big
island in hawaii due to all the corona has been subscribed to the mr sunday channel for years now
and only fairly recently started listening to the podcast
during work hours on Mondays.
Worst places to be, man.
Hawaii is a beautiful, beautiful island.
I know, right?
I'm a digital artist.
Been going through a bit of a rough patch recently
and just wanted to thank y'all.
We're going to get a lot of y'alls this week.
I'm loving the y'alls.
For being one of the only consistent highlights to my week,
I laugh out loud while listening pretty much every week.
And then remember, I'm in an office where people are trying to focus.
Cheers.
Cheers to you, Luca. Cheers to you, Luca.
Cheers to you, Luca. Have a tropical drink on us.
Absolutely. Wait, not on us.
We can't give you any money.
Give us money. Give us money and then buy yourself
a tropical drink and drink the tropical drink.
Be a fun time. I'm just recommending
if somehow you're in Hawaii and it hasn't occurred
to you to drink a tropical drink of some
sort, please do that.
I've got a question for you. This is unrelated.
I was just looking because there's more news.
I do that before the end of the show.
Did you ever play the Tony Hawk 1 and 2 games?
No, but there's a relaunch. Apparently it's amazing.
I think I might get it.
It's not bogged down
in all the other absolute garbage.
You're going to do some sick tricks?
Yeah, I might. Do some aerials and varials?
Yeah, apparently it's got that kind of
really good flow to it.
Oh. But I want, is it like, are you
just in a little arena or can you go like go down a hill
in a race? Because I like going down a hill in a race
sometimes. Okay. You know what I mean? You do some
research. Yeah. Folks out there,
here's your action item for this week. Can you
go down some hills in the new Tony Hawk 1 and 2?
Yes or no? No context, please.
You don't need it. Just say yes or no. Can you go down
some hills? Yes. But in a race.
But in a race, though. Yeah. Right, right.
I like those, like,
extreme sporty games. Remember Wave
Race on the Nintendo 64, where
you're in a jet ski? Not
in it, on it. Can you be in a jet ski?
You can be in the engine compartment. There you go.
If somebody mashed you in there. Interesting.
Okay, that's the show. That's the whole show.
Thank you, everybody, so much for listening.
We did get a question from someone called Or Just Bloke,
but I might have cut off something in the name.
It says, what's next for the Booker Club
and when is Joker commentary dropping?
I think we answered those questions.
We did.
It's true.
I believe.
So Joker maybe today or something.
Very soon at any rate.
Yeah.
If it's not this week, it'll be next week.
And also that's his name, Or Just Bloke. Yeah. The soon at any rate. Yeah, if it's not this week, it'll be next week. That's right. And also, that's his name, or Just Bloke.
Yeah, The Walking Dead, yeah, is what we're going to be talking about,
the comic book series.
Thank you everybody so much for listening.
I hope everybody's doing all right out there.
Yeah, man.
Thank you so much for telling your bloody, telling your friends
and living a nice review.
James, you got a nice review there?
I do have a couple of reviews here, Mason, because we love reviews.
It really helps the show.
This one says it's from JFIJFNFHCNCNMCMC.
Great.
It's all right, but it's five stars.
You should give it a listen if you like movies, video games,
comics, and stuff.
And this one is from Handsome Jeff who said,
Nuke the spud.
You can cook a medium-sized baked potato in a microwave
by wrapping it in a moist paper towel and placing it in a Ziploc bag
for eight minutes.
Leave a small portion of the bag open to vent steam.
Five stars.
It's good stuff, man.
Great tip.
Like it.
Got any other tips or just regular reviews you can drop in?
Just a platform of choice?
Cooking tips would be great, actually.
If you want to leave a five-star review and then like a cooking tip
or a fun recipe you can do in lockdown, you know?
If you're cooking a chip, right, if you're cooking like a wedge
or like a sweet potato fry, you boil in those chips before you put
it in the oven because you can actually cut down significantly
on the baking time.
Oh, interesting.
You get them cooked beforehand.
I feel like I'm out better, softer on the inside,
crisper on the outside.
Very nice.
Otherwise they might dry it out a bit more, you know what I mean?
Yeah, I get it.
I get it.
It's just something that –
Pretty wise.
That's the kind of tips we need in the five-star reviews that people provide.
But you know what's never as good as regular chips,
chips that you cook at home.
You're like, yeah, all right.
Yeah, that's true.
All right, I'll eat them, but I'm not happy about it.
That's true.
Boo.
Might get some red rooster most in its father's day.
I should treat myself.
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You're ordering a bunch of stuff in this time?
Bought a Transformer.
Oh, yeah.
I said I wasn't going to.
New Ultra Magnus.
I got a new Ultra Magnus.
It's real nice.
It's way better than the old one.
Well, here's the thing.
That old one's a piece of shit.
There have been a bunch in between the original one that I have
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and you add the bits on and he becomes the big guy.
Can you send me a picture of what the little guy looks
without all the bits on?
Yeah, they're mirror images.
That's fucking right.
Anyway, I can no longer say,
have you bought any weird stuff during lockdown?
No, I have.
What have I bought?
Nothing.
Oh, that Fast and Furious game I still haven't played.
Sitting out there looking at me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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