The Weekly Planet - 367 Wonder Woman 1984
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Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet,
where we talk movies and comics and TV shows.
I'm speeding through this intro because I'm very excited.
Nick Mason has brought a present in, presumably for the podcast,
or for me specifically.
It is for the podcast.
But can we keep it at the podcast?
Yeah, yes, we can.
Okay, good.
It's to brighten up the podcast room.
Very good.
It's a little something, a little something.
I thought it might have been a record, but it's not.
It was nearly a record.
I'll tell you about it in a moment.
I'm opening this up.
It's record-shaped.
He's wrapped it beautifully, I must say.
Thank you.
It's got lovely Christmas.
Did you have a good Christmas?
I did have a pretty good Christmas.
You did a little bit of work, but then you did a little bit of fam.
Is that right?
Yes, that's exactly right.
Yeah, that's how it goes.
And a little bit of then sitting by myself, which is the best part of Christmas.
I agree.
I think you'll agree.
So what he's got, it's the 007 official.
Oh, it's official.
No time to die 2021 16-month calendar.
Well, we don't know how many more months it'll be
until we have time to die.
Now, what we should do.
When does it start?
I guess.
July, I think.
No, surely not.
Not July.
Oh, no no that's just
the month of
but there's
yeah so there's
16 pictures
oh my god
look at all these
crisp images
you know what
what we should do
is we should mark
in Australia
it's coming out
on April the 12th
we should mark it down
and then see how long
it takes before
it actually comes out
that's a great idea
but I like
I like
because I haven't
bought a calendar
in probably 20 years
yeah
first of all I saw it and I'm like god how much a calendar in probably 20 years. Yeah.
First of all, I saw it and I'm like,
God, how much a calendar is going to be these days?
Are they going to be $40?
They're not.
But I love the pictures that they have chosen.
Yeah. Like if you look, there's like, there's like top,
this is my favorite.
There's Ralph Fiennes' M and he's just looking,
he's just looking fed up.
He's also not even lit properly.
Like he's in the shadows.
It's clearly Bond has gone rogue at some point,
like he always would, and he's just upset by it.
This is one where Bond is standing in the dark.
Like dishevelled in a T-shirt.
Yeah, but he looks like he's wearing a cooking apron.
Like he was maybe chopping tomatoes and somebody's come in.
Maybe that's the 4th of July.
This one is just a Jeep and you can't really
see who's driving it. And also
like it's obscured by
like probably, I don't know, like
a quarter of a leaf is covering most of the picture.
Isn't it fascinating? These are horrible pictures.
There's one of Rami Malek and he's just
sort of standing there. Most of
these are in shadows. This one, he looks like
an old-timey prospector.
He's wearing, like, slacks and a...
And suspenders and, like, a grandpa shirt, yeah.
Well, I guess you can't show anything that isn't a spoiler.
Yeah, I guess not.
What are you showing from a spoiler from a Bond movie?
Spoiler culture has ruined 16-month calendars, James.
You can't be like, here's bloody Jack Nicholson falling
into the toxic waste or whatever.
Do you mind?
I know it's not quite the new year yet.
No, let's crack it open.
But I just want to check when this ends.
Okay.
If you don't mind.
No, please do.
I mean, when is bloody 2020?
When is it going to bloody end at three?
I'll check the calendar to make sure it does end.
Okay, good.
How did this bloody go?
Who needs a digital clock?
When you have...
I'm going to throw away my digital clock.
The one on your phone.
All right.
So it starts in, yep, 2020.
Nice, good, great.
So it's got, you know, what the fuck?
A bit of fucking cardboard in it.
So, yeah.
Okay, so...
That's the end of 2020.
Good, good, good.
And then we launch straight into January.
It's also got different languages.
Ooh.
You can hang this anywhere in the world or at least four places.
Well, James, that's what we're going to do.
Lucky listeners, we're going to send it to their house at any expense, James.
So the first picture, no one cares about this.
Why are we doing this?
But he's Daniel Craigton.
He's Aston Martin, except he's up really close.
So you can't really see what kind of car
it is and you can just see him
It could just be a banged up old Volvo.
It really could be. And so it's a close up of
his big potatoey head.
You can sort of see someone behind him sort of
and it says James Bond brackets
Daniel Craig and Madeline Swan
of Leo Sido escape in
the Aston Martin.
But like four of those things mentioned are not visible really in this image.
Yeah.
This is garbage.
Well done.
Thank you. Okay, it ends in.
All right, if the last one's a spoiler.
It ends in December.
It's 16 months because the first four months are on the first page.
Yeah, right.
That's outrageous.
Right?
But maybe you buy it in advance.
Maybe you buy this.
Clearly they put it on the shelves in September. And then they're like, all right. Yeah, you're probably right. Yeah. That's outrageous. Right? But maybe you buy it in advance. Maybe you buy this. Clearly they put it on the shelves in September.
And then they're like, all right.
Yeah, you're probably right.
Yeah.
How much you got going on, really, you know?
This is incredible, Mason.
Anyway, this is the second last episode of the podcast
that we're doing before we go on break.
That's right.
Yes, that's right.
We were going to do the best of episode this week,
but it would have been a lot with Wonder Woman 84,
a movie we both loved and we're going to get into.
You can skip to the time codes.
We're both going to get into it for sure.
That's true.
And also we've got news of like we've got some Disney Plus dates.
We've got some HBO Max might be in trouble, Mason.
Furiosa news.
Blumhouse stuff, new horror movies.
There's not Snyder Cut news this week.
I just want to make mention of that because I know you'd be happy.
Coming to America, MGM, speaking of Bond.
Oh, yeah, right.
And, of course, and I do want to talk about the awards for next week
because another's just doing it now.
So next week we do our annual awards.
Collings has put together the document where people can actually vote
for like all the best and worst of the year.
There's a few categories that I know that is included.
We'll link that below.
Collings will link that below if you do want to vote.
So we'll have our picks, obviously, but then there'll be the votes from the people.
Exactly.
Before we get started, James, something that's just popped up on my screen.
I love screens.
I mean phone.
This is from TVLine.com.
Wonder Woman, Pedro Pascal recalls his previous spin with superhero in NBC pilot starring Adrian Palicki.
That's something we did.
I reckon I think they've stolen our scoop, and by scoop I mean
we stole that pilot off the internet and watched it and talked about it.
We did.
And I think we've brought it back into the public consciousness.
I think there were a few.
Owen Likes Comics did a video on it.
Oh, then we didn't.
I think there's a few people who are.
He did an excellent video, actually.
Hang on, let's see what he had to say.
Yeah, sure.
Okay.
It was like a dream come true, he said.
David E. Kelly's influence on television when I was freshly out of college
was so huge and I watched every episode of Friday Night Lights.
I also thought that whether it was good or not,
it would definitely get picked up.
Yeah.
So that would change my financial situation significantly,
even if it was a half season before it got cancelled.
But it didn't even get picked up.
No, it didn't.
But now look at him now.
As for whether Wonder Woman 1984 Helmer, Patty Jenkins,
knew of his previous run-in with the Amazonian princess at the time
he was cast, he was unsure, shrugging,
they must have either not known or not cared.
That seems accurate.
Yeah, I think it's probably not known.
Probably a combination of the two.
I'd imagine, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, forget that.
We'll talk about a slightly better Wonder Woman thing a bit later, won't we?
Okay, we sure will.
Time code's in the description.
Mason, Disney Plus dates.
Okay.
They released a whole bunch of stuff, but let's just talk about the ones that we know
us and our listeners really care about, you know what I mean?
So Falcon and the Winter Soldier is March 19th.
Maybe we knew that.
We might have known that, yeah.
Now we know for sure.
Okay, sure.
Loki's going to be in May.
Yeah.
Oh.
More like high key.
Am I right?
No.
No, I'm not, am I? What If is in summer? You're not firing on all. Okay, sure. Loki's going to be in May. Yeah. Like high key. Am I right? No. No, I'm not, am I?
What if is in summer?
You're not firing on all cylinders yet, James.
I've already drank it already.
I drank it already.
I drank it before you got here.
Maybe drink a second kombucha.
You were late and I drank it, Mason.
You should have been here earlier.
Actually, I don't think you were late.
I was exactly on time.
You drank your kombucha earlier.
Then we've got what if coming summer.
Summer in the Northern Hemisphere, obviously. Then we've got Ms.? coming summer. Summer in the Northern Hemisphere, obviously.
Then we've got Ms. Marvel, get ready for these dates,
late 2021.
That's a long time away.
That's right.
Then we've got Hawkeye, also late 2021.
Oh.
Boom.
And then we've got Boba Fett, the book of Boba Fett.
It's confirmed as a series.
And we knew that was in December, but now we know that that is going
to be, that's his series, and then we're getting The Mandalorian Season 3,
which is what we suspected.
Very exciting.
Even though I had many people yell at me that that was not the case.
But where are they now?
Come back and apologize if you could.
Apologize for what you did.
It's rude.
They're not listening to this.
They stopped listening.
They probably never listened.
They probably just saw that video.
It was more on YouTube.
I don't think anybody actually wrote it.
How do we feel about all those?
I'm pretty excited.
March isn't that far away, so that's pretty good.
Well, we've got WandaVision even like three weeks out from now.
That's even closer.
It's even closer than then.
15th, so even less than that.
What is the day today?
It doesn't fucking matter.
Next bit of news, mate.
I was just thinking, we're a little bit off our game.
I don't know.
We mentioned this amongst ourselves.
Yeah, we may have.
Last week we were both invited to the premiere of the movie monster hunter and we were and neither and
neither of us showed up because we both forgot it was happening i messaged you at nine o'clock
when it would probably have like 20 minutes left and i was like hey uh how was that monster
thing we both forgot about guess what i was in bed by then. Okay, genuine question.
Yes.
If you had ever remembered, would you have gone?
Oh, I probably would have.
If it was within like an hour, I would have gone, I think.
Yeah.
If I was within maybe half an hour, I would have checked maps
to see how long it would take me to get there.
And then I'd go, okay, well, I could get there in 20 minutes,
but then I have to find a park.
Yeah. Do you not have like a direct train or tram you can take? Oh, yeah. And then I'd go, okay, well, I could get there in 20 minutes, but then I have to find a park. Yeah.
Do you not have like a direct train or tram you can take?
Oh, maybe.
Because I think it was at Melbourne Central.
Oh, yeah, maybe.
So, yeah.
Yeah, could have.
So, yeah.
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
We missed it.
We sure did.
And we'll probably never see it because I think that was our window.
Wow.
And we just didn't see it.
It's the bloody silly season, isn't it?
I heard it's all right.
Also, another thing that I did this week is my card I use for purchasing
in my daily life.
I got a replacement card because the old one expired and I lost it.
I threw it away.
So that made Christmas shopping this season very good and cool.
Were you withdrawing cash on your phone like at the ATM?
Yeah.
That's what I do.
And being like, do you accept cash currently in the situation we're in?
And they're like, ugh.
Yeah, not Australian dollars.
Yeah, that's right.
We'll take euro depending where you got it from.
That's right.
All right.
Though I think our economy is not too bad at the moment, is it?
James, we are not.
Let's get into it.
Of all the many things we are not qualified to talk about in this podcast.
I think in terms of world economy, I don't think we're doing too badly at this point.
Wow.
It's probably from all the coal we keep selling.
Anyway, Mason, got some dates.
Because of Christmas. Yeah. Because of all the bad kids. We sell it to Santa Claus. There's more every year. That's probably from all the coal we keep selling. Anyway, Mason, got some dates. Because of Christmas.
Yeah.
Because of all the bad kids.
We sell it to Santa Claus.
There's more every year.
That's right.
And he is loving it.
Yeah.
June of 20-
I'll take all the coal you have, he says.
All right, 2032.
I'm just going to correct this for no reason, but 2023, Furiosa is going to be out.
That's the Anya Taylor-Joy-led Furiosa prequel.
Good, I think.
Yeah, great.
Because some of the Mad Maxes are good,
and the last Mad Max is easily the best.
I agree.
Yeah.
And following on from that, they also announced,
this is leading into some more interesting Warner Brothers news,
but around that time.
So this is only subpar interesting Warner Brothers news.
It's some good stuff.
All right.
They announced Coyote vs. Acme, which is the sequel to Coyote Ugly.
No, this is a good joke and I could run with it.
Is this a written joke?
What are you doing here?
No, it's not.
I'm looking at his script here and it just says Coyote vs. Acme
and then brackets and it's like riff an amazing joke.
You can do it, James.
Believe in yourself, it says.
And you did it, James.
I did it, didn't I?
You did it.
It'll feature the
age-old rivalry between the roadrunner
nemesis and his preferred mail
order supplier. So it's
him versus the company that's betrayed him
so many times. I guess he's taking them to court.
It's like Kramer versus Kramer.
Do you think it'll be Ryan Reynolds as the voice of the
coyote or something? Isn't it normally like a really
distinguished guy? Sometimes
it is, yeah. Sometimes it is.
His voice is usually either a sign that says,
ouch, I've been hit on the head with an antler or Frasier or Niles.
Yeah, Niles or Frasier.
It doesn't matter.
Great.
Yeah, cool.
They're bringing back a bunch of this stuff, aren't they?
They're like Warner Brothers is back.
It's the 90s again when it was back.
And everyone had silk boxers shorts.
Is this preemptive Space Jam?
Like we know this is going to kill so let's just do some.
There'll be a backdoor pilot for this obviously.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wiley Coyote will be there and he'll be like,
ouch, I've been hit by an anvil.
Yeah, or his other accent that he does.
Right.
Or he's holding signs.
I hope it's a courtroom drama.
Niles, I've been hit by an anvil.
Yeah, I do hope it's like a courtroom
drama like the Pelican Brief, if that's a
courtroom drama. Just real serious, you know
what I mean? Ashley Judd.
That's what the 90s were all about.
That's what the 90s were all about. Looney Tunes boxer
shorts. And Ashley Judd courtroom
procedurals. That's right, so we combine the two
and the 90s are back. Exactly.
Interesting though, one of the screenplay writers among the many of them is James Gunn.
Huh.
So there you go.
I don't know how much he has to do with it, but there's like four names on it.
Does that mean he comes in and does punch up and they ignore it or what is it?
He was the first name listed, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he...
Yeah.
He's got the best agent.
That's why.
That's probably why, yeah.
And he's hot stuff.
He's hot stuff.
He's gone all grave.
You seen that? No. He's looking good. He's giving me inspiration, agent. That's why. That's probably why, yeah. And he's hot stuff. He's hot stuff. He's gone all grey. Have you seen that?
No.
He's looking good.
He's giving me inspiration, Mason.
Okay, right.
It's not just me out there in the well-being, really.
You know what I mean?
So it's given you inspiration to continue to have grey hair.
Yes.
Or not freak out and dye my hair jet black and people go,
why did you do that?
Yeah, that's, yeah.
Because you'd have to do your eyebrows as well.
My eyebrows aren't grey, are they?
Look at this.
Oh, no.
What have I done?
Nightmason.
Maybe it's a trick of the light.
I think that's the last thing to go because my dad, I think,
doesn't have grey eyebrows.
Maybe he does.
I'm going to FaceTime him now.
Okay.
Dad, you've got to hold the camera properly.
I need to see your eyebrows.
Anyway, Deadline are also reporting that because the Legendary financed
75% of Dune,
or is it Dune, and Kong versus Godzilla, and then they were like,
that's going to HBO Max.
And they're like, we fucking made those, man.
You can't do that probably.
Well, apparently Godzilla versus Kong might stay on HBO Max,
the hybrid model, in its May 21st slot.
Okay, so HBO Max and also a cinema release.
Yes, they're all doing that.
But only if Warner Brothers makes a deal with Legendary that uses as a base
the $250 million value established when the film was shopped earlier with Netflix.
What does that mean?
So basically they went to take it to Netflix and they kind of vetoed that.
Okay, right, right, right.
And as a result, and then they went,
because we're keeping it and not going to give you any money, and they went, excuse me.
So Legendary is basically like we could have got $250 million.
We could have got a quarter of a billion dollars for this.
That's right.
And now we're going to make $35.
That's right.
So from James and May so because they're going to see it.
They're going to see it.
There might be a screening that we forget about here.
That's true.
Go to the movies, mate.
And then they take that money back.
Yeah, that's right.
There's little spots that say reserved for James and May,
so and then Usher picks up those little bits of paper and rips them up
and puts them into a bin in front of the head of Legendary Pictures,
who I assume is a king of some sort.
Maybe.
Based on the logo, he's a king, isn't he?
Mate, when I went to the Wonder Woman screening,
there was literally nobody from like Roadshow or the Warner Brothers
there.
It was like a regular Usher and they're like, here you go.
And normally there's like somebody to like tick you off, but they were just like, just
fucking get in.
Okay.
Do you think that is because the Roadshow, like the bigwigs are like, we're not going
to risk coming out here in these conditions?
Or do you think they were like, let's let the usher take the heat of this.
Take the heat of this one.
Some people will like this movie.
Some people will like this movie.
I've got good and bad things to say.
I also have good and bad things to say.
Yeah.
A friend of the show, Alexis Gentry, who people might know from doing
some art of us and some design stuff and cool typography stuff on Instagram.
I saw a tweet from her where she said a lot of people have adopted
the metric that we use as a joke for real, like best movie ever,
worst movie ever, and they're like, it must be one of the two
and you can just be like, this movie, there's some good stuff in it,
but I did or I did not like it.
Yeah, exactly.
Also, we adopted that because that is it.
It's like it's a joke, but it's not really a joke.
Sure.
Because that's the way things operate.
Yeah.
Then again, I feel like there is a third person like us.
It's like actually there's room for nuance,
which may be the worst person really.
We are the worst.
That's what the subtitle of the podcast says.
If you look really close at our logo, it says the weekly planet,
the worst kind of guys.
Actually, if you just stop and think about it,
there are good and bad qualities to everything.
We're just both sides in it.
Just fuck it all day, mate.
We love it. Anyway,
Dune might not be going to streaming
though. They want to preserve Dune,
or is it Dune, as a traditional theatrical
release to preserve
the franchise potential.
And since it's October 1st...
We want it to be the wonderful, true cinematic experience
of planes that have wings that flap.
Exactly. Remember John Carter?
It's kind of like that, I think.
Was it based off that loosely?
Which one came first?
Listen, it doesn't matter.
These people are zipping around, like in Casablanca.
They've got zippy powers.
Look, all we know is wherever we release it,
whatever happens, we're only making one, all right?
We're just making one and that's it.
Remember in Citizen Kane when Kane's, remember when it was revealed
that Rosebud was his little force field generator?
Because this is serious cinema and we want to maintain
that air of serious cinema.
Absolutely.
It's about big worms, this movie.
It's about big worms.
It's about big worms.
Chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp.
Anyway, since its October 1st release date falls well after the estimated
late spring date when COVID vaccines should lead to herd immunity,
they're like, well, why don't we move it back to cinema releases?
Maybe.
So we'll see.
Either way, I can't wait for nobody to see that movie,
even though I am looking.
Maybe it'll save cinema.
I'd love it to save cinema.
That'd be incredible.
Something's got to save cinema.
Do you think if they rebranded Whiz Fizz as Spice,
do you think that'd save Whiz Fizz?
It might just.
Is Whiz Fizz on the air?
When was the last time you saw a Whiz Fizz?
That's a great question.
I'd have to check.
I mean, I'm not looking at the lolly section.
I just blank it when I walk past because I'm like, forget it.
It'll kill you.
Don't bother.
Because as an adult, you can just be like, oh, they're two for $2.
Yeah.
I'll take 10, thank you.
Yeah, exactly.
And then there's no one to stop you from eating all 10 in the afternoon, right?
I want to warm Dr. Pepper with it too if I could.
Exactly, right.
That was my deal, mate, back in the day.
You know when you've got some pocket money when you're a teenager and you're just like,
I got 20 bucks, man.
I'm fucking going all out here.
I'm going to do a lot of whispers.
Anyway, Observer are reporting that David Gordon Green,
as you might know, is the director of Blumhouse's Halloween 2018.
Oh, yes.
And the next Halloween, whatever that one's called.
He's going to be directing an Exorcist direct sequel for Blumhouse.
Now, there were real Exorcist sequels.
Funny you should mention that, Mason,
because I have listed all of the Exorcist films here
and it takes a fascinating turn.
Oh, okay.
All right.
So here we go.
Is this the thing where all the actors have turned to porn
by the end of the list?
No, no, no.
It's not that fascinating.
That is the most fascinating thing that has ever happened.
Go back and listen to that episode, whatever that is.
Anyway, so they had Exorcist 1973, the original based off the book.
It was an incredible smash hit.
It was like a blockbuster horror film.
Nobody had ever seen anything like it.
It still very much holds up today.
I think it's funny.
Yeah, well, it's funny, yeah.
And then it was immediately followed by Exorcist 2000.
Yeah, well, it was followed up by-
The Exorcist is coming out of my VCR.
They've rebranded the girl as they call the Exorcist now.
Okay, that's excellent.
So they had Exorcist II, The Heretic in 1977.
It took a bit of a breather.
So can we all just back up?
And then they had Exorcist III in 1990, which was apparently all right.
I think that is the one where the priest gets possessed
by the devil instead.
Doesn't that also happen at the end of The Exorcist
and he jumps out the window?
I can't remember.
Sorry for spoiling The Exorcist.
That movie from 1973.
Don't complain.
And then we had, and this is where it does get interesting,
we had Exorcist at the beginning in 2004,
which was a prequel starring Max von Sydow.
It's called a prequel to the original, but then in 2005,
we had Dominion prequel to the Exorcist,
which is described as an alternative prequel to the original.
Wow.
To the original prequel.
No, different prequels telling different stories or timelines.
Okay, wow.
So they're like competing Exorcist prequels and they're both bad.
Wow.
They're like, we're going to do it right actually.
And people are like, stop this.
Or do one every year.
Just be like, this is the real Exorcist prequel.
Yeah, I'm sort of kind of hoping for like that situation
where somebody owns some of the rights to the Exorcist,
like the Bond movies,
so they release competing Exorcist prequels at the same time.
It's the summer of Exorcist prequels.
Hold on, The Exorcist is coming out of a...
It's a VCR again, whatever.
It's a throwback, all right?
Fuck, it's a prequel.
We don't know.
We don't know what we're doing.
One's a prequel set in the 80s and one's a prequel set now.
Perfect.
Okay, so it's like the Bond timeline.
It's like moving up.
I get you.
I hear what you're saying.
Someone's probably going to steal this,
but I would love to do it for Caravan of Garbage
if this movie ever comes out, which I'm sure it will,
like an Exorcist prequel video where we just talk about both
and kind of like, because I was skimming the reason it happened.
I'm like, wow, this is weird.
What is the reason?
There was like people dropped out, Maureen.
I think someone died and then it was like, well,
this was my original vision.
I didn't even get to do it and I got removed and so I'm going
to do my own version.
I butchered it.
I don't remember.
But it's good to know there are people out there who are just like,
I will not compromise on my original vision for this prequel.
I've come into Hollywood with a dream.
I'm a man with a vision for just a prequel to a movie that I had nothing
to do with originally.
I wasn't even born when it came out maybe.
I don't know.
Maybe I was one, but it really affected me deeply when I saw it on VCR
and the exorcist came out of my VCR and scared me real bad.
So I just wanted to confirm with you.
I know we're having Snyder Cut news every week.
I just wanted to peel that back this week.
Pull it back, I should say, because there's no Snyder Cut news,
but there is Snyder Cut sequel news.
I knew it.
I mean, why would I bring it up otherwise?
Yeah, sneaky.
Yeah.
So here we go.
It's from Bleeding Cool.
This is Zack Snyder talking about the sequel.
Is he on Vero?
No, I think it was just an interview, like a Zoom call.
Okay.
Oh, I did see he released some spectacular concept art images
of Martian Manhunter.
And by that I mean he showed his phone to a webcam.
Oh, yeah, that's a while ago, wasn't it?
Maybe.
And he went, look, look at this guy's head.
Can you imagine it?
Right?
Ba-bam, ba-bam, ba-bam, ba-bam.
And a thousand nerds went we love this movie but you also
endorsed endorsed joe biden oh fuck we're really torn that's what happened
i would love to do a comic book the post-apocalyptic nightmare world the world has
fallen the ragtag team that's left alive is trying to pull it back put it back
snyder explains uh inside that's a little bit Snyder explains. It's an incredible
comic book experience that they've never
done before. No one's ever thought of this before.
Can you imagine?
Can you imagine the DC Universe, but
with a twist? A future that maybe
wasn't meant to be.
And if you nerds
can't handle it, because this isn't
your daddy's DC universe.
Fuck him and fuck you.
This is great.
Anyway.
I like him.
I know he's like.
I know.
I don't.
Like as a person?
I don't know anything about him.
Inside of that story.
I love his insistence on using Vero.
He's the only man left on Vero.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
He's got some things about him.
I love this commitment to weird things.
Anyway, inside of that story,
we would also do the story of the killing joke.
Robin, imagine that the Joker is somehow involved
in the stealing of the mother box
and using it to create the treadmill.
Cyborg is going to do the math.
That should be a good scene.
This is what we're going to do.
The math is coming out of the VCR.
It's too much math even for me.
It's too much for him.
He's only used to like maybe a slightly more regular amount of math.
Like a graphing calculator.
Like a graphing calculator.
It blasts right through his TI-82.
This is what we're going to have to do.
We're going to jump back in time and warn Bruce correctly.
So a lot of the conflict would be Bruce reliving the death of Robin
and what went into that, and Snyder would go on to say,
I don't think anything is going to happen right away,
but Jim and I have talked about it quite a bit
and talked about maybe doing a book.
Jubilee?
Yeah, I assume so.
Or a comic book down the road to kind of finish this.
We haven't locked anything yet.
Even just the death of Robin in that world would make a nice little one-off.
I think he's like sowing the seeds of a sequel.
Yeah, to get the hype going.
Why wouldn't he?
I mean, look, that is one thing that I guess I respect about the man
is he's just like he knows how to push the correct buttons here and go.
You know how you hate my vision.
Well, fuck you and your dad.
This is happening.
Wait, I didn't say anything about it.
Shut up, old man.
We're the same age.
Fuck you.
I feel you've painted me and my son with the same brush here.
I don't understand.
I'm a big stand for you, Zack Snyder.
I love all your work.
I love how this ain't my daddy's Justice League.
That's what I love.
That's what I love about it too.
Anyway, it's coming out in March maybe, so we'll see,
and then we can just keep talking about it.
In the meantime, I guess read Injustice because it's basically the same thing.
Yeah, or like Flashpoints, Future Shit and whatever.
Yeah, we'll just read those.
Anyway, Coming to America has a trailer.
Sure does.
Whatever.
Have you seen the original Coming to America?
It's the same movie, I think.
Yeah, but probably not as good.
Just let that sit for a while.
Yeah, that's fine.
Hey, I mean, Dolomite Is My Name was very good.
That's true.
Wesley Snipes is in this as well, who, by the way,
was incredible in Dolomite Is My Name.
It's like my favorite part of the movie.
But, yeah, it does look very similar.
Also, why does he have a kid in America?
Good question.
Maybe it's Arsenio's horse kid or whatever.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe.
Anyway, all the characters you know and love, as in. Maybe. Anyway, all the characters you know and love,
as in the same two people playing all the characters you know and love,
they're all back.
All the barbershop patrons, they're all back.
Yeah, cool.
I haven't seen that in a long time.
Same.
It's probably funny.
Couldn't make it these days though, James. Whoa, Mason, you can't say that.
You know, yeah, you can't say that.
No, you couldn't make it these days.
I'll tell you what.
Well, they literally are.
They're making it again.
That's true.
So I don't know what. No, you couldn't, no. You couldn't. I mean, they are. Again, they literally are. They're making it again. They've done it. So I don't know what.
No, you couldn't.
No, you couldn't.
I mean, they are.
Again, they are making it.
It's coming out soon.
So, you know, they did.
Anyway, the Wall Street Journal are reporting that MGM,
who are in constant financial dire straits.
I bet it's way worse than we think.
It's always way worse than we think.
They're always on the verge of bankruptcy. Or they are bankrupt. Even worse. I reckon it's way worse than we think. It's always way worse than we think. They're always on the verge of bankruptcy or they are bankrupt.
I reckon it's even worse.
They want to sell their entire back catalogue valued at $5.5 billion.
This includes 4,000 titles and 17,000 hours of recorded television programming.
Luckily they recorded it because otherwise what are you selling?
Just blank tapes.
Imagine you're the guy.
Imagine you're some sort of eccentric billionaire that you've bought the five.
You've spent the 5.5B.
Yeah.
Because that's how rich you are.
You're like, I'll spend 5.5B.
You don't even say the full.
You're spending so many B that you don't even say fullillion.
Yeah, yeah.
And then you get to like the end of all the cans of like recorded TV stuff
and you're like, they've taped over some of this.
This is like old episodes of Doctor Who.
That's right.
Exactly like that, yeah.
What do they even own in TV?
Good question.
I don't know.
Here's some things they do own though.
Bond, Rocky, The Hobbit, Robert Copp, Handmaid's Tale, Stargate.
What do you think of that?
That's some of the things.
Probably not worth $5.5 billion.
4,000 titles, Mason.
Wow.
Can you believe it?
Also, who's valuing it at $5.5 billion?
I think they had some investors look at it and be like,
we're from Wall Street and we know things. We spend a B or two.
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, it's strange to me that Lucasfilm would be sold for less than that,
but I think also Lucasfilm had a whole lot of like George Lucas got stocks
in Disney, so it's probably that deal.
Roughly equivalent, yeah.
Probably looks very different than what we know on the surface.
So there you go.
And that's all the news of the week.
Oh, my God.
Oh, no, I do have one more bit of news.
Okay, cool.
But anyway, just so people know, and we'll tell you next week
when we do the next week's show, we are taking a bit of a break
over the summer, the Australian summer, that is, because.
We're not telling you six months in advance we're taking two weeks off in American summer. That's right. We'll be back, ready to go that is, because. We're not telling you six months in advance. We're taking two weeks off in American summer.
That's right.
We'll be back, ready to go by then, hopefully.
But so next week will be the last episode,
and then there'll be a best of, and then there'll be a week off.
But Big Sandwich is going to run the entire time,
bigsandwich.co if you want to sign up.
There's a bunch of podcasts.
We've got a comic book podcast.
We've got one where we look at years and go, look at this shit year.
Was it good?
Yeah.
It might be all right. We've got movie comment book podcast. We've got one where we look at years and go, look at this shit year. Was it good? It might be all right.
We've got movie commentaries.
That's right.
And clickbait, that podcast where we just make fun of clickbait stuff.
It's good stuff.
Yeah, it's cool.
And we are officially affiliated with We Got This Cover.
That just came through.
We've signed it on the dotted line.
Terrific.
Great.
We get 5.5B?
That's right.
So I know people have asked if we're affiliated with that because of the logo.
Absolutely not.
No.
Don't show anyone the logo.
Don't do it.
They wouldn't like it.
Yeah.
Hey, James, here's some MGM TV shows.
You ready for these?
I love TV.
Fargo.
Yeah, okay.
Handmaid's Tale.
Okay.
Get Shorty.
Okay.
Spaceballs, the animated series.
Wait, isn't the new, no, not Fogo.
What was the one?
Am I still?
Yeah, isn't that good?
The Ray Romano one?
I hear it's pretty good.
It's got Chris, whatever his name is.
Chris Catan.
Yes.
What's his name?
Chris O'Dowd.
Yes.
Yeah.
Spaceballs, the animated series.
What?
Stargate Origins.
Spaceballs.
Lauren Lake's Paternity Court.
What?
Lucha Underground.
That's luchador wrestling.
That's cool.
Dr. Kildare.
Cash Cab.
Mother Goose and Grimm.
500 questions.
Are they solving crime?
Kane's 100.
The Islanders.
The Montefuscos.
Harry's Girls.
Cutter to Houston.
Many Happy Returns.
The Rounders.
Off to See the Wizard.
Father of the Bride.
Adam's Ridge.
Father of the Bride is a series?
It was a series, apparently.
It's black and white.
It's some old stuff.
Nightwatch.
Pink Panther and Sons.
The Magnificent Marble Machine.
High Rollers.
Just Men.
Just Men.
Just Men.
Jesus.
Jack and Mike, also Just Men, I assume.
The Asphalt Jungle.
Ooh, mobsters.
Ooh, that's good.
Dundee and the Culhane.
Mr District Attorney.
You could have just said they've got utter shit.
Men of Annapolis.
The Case of the Dangerous Robin.
Like the bird?
Doesn't say.
Sinbad and his magic belt.
That's not real.
Are you making stuff up?
Okay, that one isn't real.
It's Sinbad Jr. and his magic belt.
Okay, sorry.
The Debbie Reynolds Show.
Oh, yeah.
The Tom and Jerry Comedy Show.
Are they in Tom and Jerry?
Gladiators 2000.
They're in a VCR.
They're coming out of a VCR.
That's, yeah, it's other stuff.
I didn't have a big finale there.
So I'm just going to say.
I think Gladiators 2000 is pretty epic.
I'm just going to say Sinbad Jr. and his magic belt again.
You should have ended on that.
Yeah, I should have, shouldn't I?
But I flew too high.
I flew too close to the subject.
I expected them to get even more ridiculous.
Because you said there was 4,000 titles,
so I was going to do all 4,000.
So they have garbage, essentially.
Seems that way, yeah.
And also a lot of things that aren't brand recognition.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like Just Men.
Just Men.
Just Men.
How many of them are there?
I mean, but maybe that is the core series that's going to get people in.
They're like, I'm Just Man.
I'm Just Man too.
Me and my mate Terry, we're Just Men.
Cool.
Terry's my go-to name, just of a guy.
How many Terrys do you actually know?
None.
Maybe that's why because you don't want to get involved
in any heated legal action with anybody you know.
I'm sure my dad's got a friend named Terry that I hate.
Yeah, that would make sense, yeah.
Anyway,
I'll ring him later when I ask him about the eyebrows.
Okay. Mason, one more bit of you.
Hey, Dad, two questions. Have your eyebrows
gone grey? Because I'm concerned. Also,
Terry, what's his deal? Do you know a Terry?
Oh, no, he does know a... I do know a... He does
have a friend called Terry. No, he's alright.
Anyway, Mason. Yes.
This is some Wonderwall... Wonderwall. Wonderwoman 2017. Anyway, folks, he's all right. Anyway, Mason. Yes. This is some Wonderwall, Wonder Woman 2017.
Anyway, folks, here's Wonderwall.
Here we go.
We're going to play it in its entirety.
We decided to pivot.
What do we got here?
The original end of the first movie was also smaller,
but the studio wanted to change it up at the last minute.
Oh, yeah.
This is Patty Jenkinson.
So there's always been a little bit of a bummer that the one thing
people talk about, because I agree, and told the studio we didn't have
time to do that, but it was what it was.
And I ended up loving it and that was the original
but that wasn't the original ending to the movie.
So the bit that we all hate where it's like he's a big lightning man
and he's like, no, you've given me too much energy.
But isn't the original ending, and maybe you have it there,
wasn't she just going to fight a big cloud of dust or something?
That sounds good too.
Good, right?
Are you kidding me?
It's amazing.
Yeah, right?
Yeah.
I don't know what the original ending was.
I think it was.
I reckon I can find it.
Didn't they learn from fighting a cloud of dust from Fantastic Four 2 maybe?
And Green Lantern 1.
Yeah, and Green Lantern 1.
Other movies they fight dust.
I'm going to put in Wonder Woman.
Geostorm.
Right.
You know?
I think she fights a cloud.
It's not very exciting.
No, I can't find this right.
I'll find it later.
It'll be incredible.
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Anyways, Wonder Woman 1984.
Yeah.
Wonder Woman is back, except it's the future for some, but the past for us.
That's right.
I've written that down.
There's a joke that I thought I'd bring into this. It was good, yeah.
It's this time she's going up against the bloody streaming problems, am I right?
Because people's services are buffering and also COVID and also Deadliner reporting that the box office,
the US box office for this is going to be in the low teens.
I'm having some streaming problems, James.
My VCR is taking the tape.
Oh, Mason.
The tape's coming out.
Mason, it's not 94 in real life. You've walked out of the movie and still think it's 94. I do. It's true streaming problems, James. My VCR is taking the tape. The tape's coming out. Mason, it's not 1984 in real life.
You've walked out of the movie and still think it's 1984.
I do, it's true, yeah, yeah.
But they're saying this has the best box office opening since Tenet,
but still abysmal.
Right.
What did you think the story was?
Oh, right, hang on.
Okay, so it's the 80s.
Get ready for it.
Can you go bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam?
Not quite, but that's all right.
Was there enough 80s music in this?
There was.
There was barely any.
There wasn't.
Even if you get like a synth track going, you know what I mean?
You don't need to put in Blue Monday, which they didn't, I think.
You don't need to put in that Hans Zimmer song that you love.
Yeah.
From Sunshine.
Yeah, I love that song, but they shouldn't have put that in.
Right.
Anyway, go on.
Okay, so it's the 80s, baby.
Everything's big shoulders and...
Exactly.
Blue Monday's out there. They've made that track, haven't they?
And Wonder Woman, it's been 65 years or something
and she still hasn't gotten over her first boyfriend.
Fucking get over it.
But it's all right because he's back.
How's he done that?
Magic, probably.
There's a magic rock.
So that's cool.
But maybe not everything's cool and radical and totally tubular.
Why?
Because the magic as well has done something bad as well as good,
don't you know?
And there's a magic wishing man.
There is a magic wishing man.
A genie, if you will, but different.
More evil magic.
Not ridiculous.
This is my experience with it.
I know you'll talk about your experience when we talk about this.
Because we have different experiences.
But I left the movie and I'm like, yeah, alright, it's fine.
And then I recorded a podcast right away with Dave Lee, Dave Lee Podcast, if anyone wants to check it out.
And then I just didn't think about it. And then like a couple days later, I'm like,
actually, I know there were things that I did like about
that movie, but in hindsight, maybe that wasn't very
good. I don't think it was very good but here's
the thing is that there's still some things i really like though i think i understand what
i think it was probably the movie that patty jenkins and the producers wanted to make yeah
like it's i think it's intended to be stylistically very similar to your chris rave your christopher
rave richardner kind of like.
Yeah.
And that's what I liked about it.
And I think they've chosen the era partially because it's like
it's a more innocent time and it's kind of fun and less complicated
and that kind of thing.
But also to me the vibe felt like in its best moments to me,
I think it felt like a Christopher Reeve Superman movie,
which I'm not a huge fan of, but the ideas and the vibe of it I like.
Superman's a nice guy and it's a complicated world, but he's always there.
He's doing a wink.
Why not do that for Wonder Woman as well?
But I think in its worst moments for me, it felt like either…
Supergirl from the 80s?
Well, yeah.
No, I didn't even think about that.
I want to also say, probably were also like, okay, let's make it a vibe like the Wonder Woman TV show again.
Yeah, definitely.
But I think in its worst moments for me,
it felt like an episode of the Super Friends cartoon,
maybe like a Wonder Woman heavy one,
or even like a read-along Wonder Woman child storybook.
Except it's two hours and 45 minutes or whatever.
Except it's two hours and 45.
The plot of this was so simple, but they crammed so much into the runtime.
And then they went like, what about political issues in the Middle East?
And it's like, you can't handle this.
Maybe you shouldn't.
Well, see, that's the thing, because I think some of this was just such a very simple one
dimensional morality play.
Yeah.
It was like, you could have all the power in the world, but don't you also love your
son?
I do.
Or I don't.
No spoilers.
That's right.
Yeah.
One of the things I did like about it, and I know people aren't necessarily a big fan
of her acting or anything like that, but Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman,
I think she's good in the same way that Chris Reeve is.
I saw also a comparison of like, I can't remember who said this,
but it was like, it's like Stallone or Arnold.
And we mentioned this even for our Jingle All The Way commentary.
He's not the best actor, but there's like a presence about them
and there's an embodiment of the character,
which I think totally still works for me.
How do you feel, though?
I think given what she's been given to work with here and, look,
I think the chemistry between her and Chris Pine is palpable.
I think it's very good and, you know, depending on the scene,
I'm like, okay, this is a great, you know, this is a great scene
and they're working well together and then sometimes I'm like,
oh, do I just love Chris Pine, Chris Pining about?
This is, I think Gal Gadot does a good job,
but I think there are some people who do carry this movie
and one of the people is Chris Pine.
Yeah, he's good.
I think he's just, I mean, it leans very heavily on like,
well, Wonder Woman was a fish out of water in the last movie.
Now he's the fish out of water and it's a bit like more,
he's a bit more off the wall wacky than say another Chris, Chris Evans.
Yeah.
You know, Captain America-ing about, you know, in the modern day.
Yeah, yeah.
But it is kind of like he's got a very much like a joy about him in this new world, which
I think is enjoyable.
I thought that was really fun and infectious, like seeing the 80s through his eyes and like
being amazed by like planes and garbage bins and clothes and arts and food.
Yeah, and subways and yeah.
Whatever.
I think that's really fun.
Yeah.
But I think also like if you've got that going on and then you've got like Donald Trump light,
like he's Donald Trump except he's maybe likes his kids.
I didn't really think about that so much during the movie.
I just felt he was just a caricature of an 80s, Maxwell Lord,
who we have in this.
In retrospect, I'm like why did he need to be the comic book character
Maxwell Lord?
There's a few nods like I guess spoilers.
I don't know, man.
Do we do in spoilers?
It's available.
Let's save it for spoilers.
Yeah, okay.
There's some Maxwell Lordy stuff that they do do.
To be fair, like, the comic book logic of this,
that it breaks or doesn't follow, I don't care.
Like, I don't care if the invisible Jed isn't the exact invisible Jed
or he's not.
It doesn't matter.
There are people out here, like, again,
like I think there are plenty of legitimate
criticisms of this movie, but I think
someone going, oh, how can she
lasso a lightning bolt?
It's crazy. Well, why can
Superman fly? Who cares? Why can
Batman build a million bat planes
and fly them around and nobody notices?
It doesn't matter. But I think there are,
you know, I think that's kind of
fun, you know?
I agree.
Yeah.
But yeah, what I was going to say, I didn't really think of Maxwell Lord as Donald Trump light, more that he was just kind of like greasy 80s businessman.
Yeah, you're probably right.
Which is what Donald Trump is, but he's just more prominent now.
But if you do look at like the parallels of like the Donald Trump that existed then, and
not just him, but like others and like pyramid schemes and just like shonky businessmen
and like live your dreams, but it's just all fueled by like cocaine and stock.
Yeah, yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
But there's nothing behind it.
No, that's right.
There was a lot of that.
There was a lot of that.
And I think he's just an amalgamation of sort of many of those people.
I think it's just, I think mostly it's a coincidence and people are inventing the parallels in
their head.
I don't think it's a coincidence.
All right, then.
Well.
But it doesn't matter.
No, it doesn't matter.
But I also feel like the reason this is set in the 80s is probably also because they're like, this is a –
They thought the X-Men that was set in the 80s.
Yeah.
What if we did that?
I think they were like, this is a – I think it might also partly be because maybe Patty Jenkins, the producers,
like they read the Wonder Woman comics
in the 80s.
They have fond memories of that era.
But I think it also is like, well, we need this to be a point of difference.
Yes.
And the modern day is also kind of played out.
So let's just, the 80s is a decade everybody loves and thinks is crazy
kind of thing.
I didn't like it.
Okay.
Well, I don't really remember it, but I didn't like it.
What else we got here, Mason?
Because it's not just Maxwell Lord.
We've also got Cheetah.
I like Kristen Wiig.
Kristen Wiig?
Kristen Wiig.
Kristen Wiig, yes.
But it was one of those things where it's like one of those kind of needs to go.
Because even though it's very long.
Oh, one of the villains.
Yeah.
I don't think it's balanced well.
And I don't know.
I just didn't feel like the lessons that they learned or anything
or the screen time that they got didn't really kind of add up to much
as a whole maybe.
I don't know whether that's accurate.
Also, she turned into a cheater.
She sure did, yeah.
Which I know some people hate that look.
It's not a spoiler.
It's in the trailer.
But she turns into a cheater at some point.
But I think, though, having seen like Cats or trailers for Cats, I see that and I'm like, this is better, so this is all right. Oh, I see. Sure, like, I think, though, having seen, like, Cats or trailers for Cats,
I see that and I'm like, this is better, so this is all right.
Oh, I see.
Sure, right, right.
I wasn't, like, really offended by it or anything like that.
I didn't really feel she was particularly cheetah-esque.
No.
Well, she did ask for vague cheetah powers or whatever.
Yeah, that's true.
Or whatever happened that got her there.
But this also does the thing that a couple of superhero movies do,
in particular Superman 2 and Spider-Man 2,
where it's like my powers aren't working properly or whatever.
Yeah.
Do you think that's intentional?
How do you mean?
Well, like just as like a throwback to like in particular Superman 2
where he gives up his powers for like a greater fucking.
No, I think it's, oh, maybe.
But I felt it was more a case of like, you know,
we've reached a point where maybe she is probably too powerful to be interesting.
Yeah, right.
Or like, you know, it's like Iron Man 3 or whatever it's like.
Yeah.
If he's just gadgets and suits or whatever, strip it away
and then show that there's still an interesting character
without all of that kind of thing, you know.
And do you think that worked though?
Not really.
I thought it added some vulnerability, physical vulnerability.
But I think the idea of it kind of when we go into the third act,
I think that set up didn't really flow properly into the third act.
We'll talk about it in spoilers.
Can you make a note of that?
I think I know what you mean.
It sort of rendered the concept kind of pointless.
Yes.
Yeah, I think I agree with that if we're talking about the same thing.
I think we're, James, I think we're on the same wavelength.
I think we're on the same strip of VHS tape.
We definitely are.
But let's talk about the fight scenes though because obviously
she's depowered for some of this.
I feel like the White House fight scene is pretty good.
I think so too, yeah.
There's a good pairing between her and Steve Trevor.
Thank you.
It's Steve Trevor and Chris.
Which one is he?
He's Chris Pine.
But they both play Steve's and they're both names are Chris.
Yes.
And they're both men from the past.
Yeah.
It's hard.
It is.
It's a real minefield.
It's a real World War I era minefield.
Or World War II.
That's right.
Yeah.
So I think the White House scene is good.
There's one on the road which is kind of Indiana Jones-esque.
Yeah.
It's got that Raiders kind of quality to it.
It's got a Raiders kind of quality,
and I think that it was probably intended to replicate the trench scene
in Wonder Woman 1, the first Wonder Woman.
But nothing in this does anything like that.
No, it doesn't.
No, unfortunately.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't think there's any.
Also, there's some incredibly wonky CGI in that.
Yeah, some green screen, blue screen.
In the highway chase.
Yeah.
Including a moment where Wonder Woman jumps out of the car that she's in
to start running along the road.
Okay.
And looks like the aforementioned Wile E. Coyote.
Or Road Runner. Whatever, whoever you're after. in to start running along the road and looks like the aforementioned Wile E. Coyote or Roadrunner.
Whatever, whoever you're after.
So, yeah, so no, I agree.
I think there's – and then there's like a cheetah fight, which is fine.
It's just like people – It's in the dark and it's kind of blue and it's people bouncing around.
Yeah, no.
Here's a thought I had while it was happening and afterwards,
comic book movies generally, not just DC,
but a lot of them need an ending guy.
Yeah, right.
You need an old happy to volunteer or somebody who's qualified.
Yeah, someone better.
But just there needs to be a guy who they bring him in or her or whoever
who just is given the pieces of what has been before in the movie.
Yeah.
Okay, I got it.
Magic amulet. Yeah, sure. Oh, yeah, you got a new in the movie. Yeah. Okay, I got it. Magic amulet.
Yeah, sure.
Oh, yeah, you got a new suit or whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah, okay, cool.
And they have a briefcase and they open the briefcase
and in there there's just a piece of paper and it says,
don't do big blue light in the sky or big grey rock man or dark man.
I've seen what they're doing on this with the blue light.
We'll talk about it.
I think they tried to sneak one in.
They did, didn't they?
Yeah.
I mean, realistically, we don't really need an Endy guy more so
than we need that piece of paper.
Yeah.
So maybe it's just a guy and he's like the president's aide
and he's just nothing.
Yeah.
And I'm willing to be that guy because I am more qualified for that.
You have to show your dear for that.
I guess I could, yeah.
And he just carries a briefcase that's handcuffed to his wrist,
and then he goes to the movie set and he opens it up
and it's got the piece of paper that says,
don't do all this crap again and over and over again.
Maybe you fill in the blank.
Yeah, yeah.
Use the blank, could be crystal, amulet, magic staff, whatever,
to defeat the whatever.
Yeah.
Earlier in the movie you picked up blank.
Maybe you could use it too.
Chicken suit.
Chicken suit. Chicken suit.
Fanny pack.
Fanny pack.
Yeah.
Fun montage.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So there's also been, I think, very valid criticisms of handling
of other nationalities, in particular like Middle Eastern cultures.
Yeah.
Where it's just like making very kind of like sweeping generalisations
and like attributing border walls to other countries.
Not that those things haven't existed before, but yeah.
Again, this is like a political area that I'm not familiar with,
but I can totally see where that's coming from.
I don't think it's intentional.
No, and I understand that it's like, well,
there were Middle East tensions in the 80s, so let's put that in,
but also didn't have to.
But they did.
They did.
They sure did.
Yeah.
But, like, obviously there were oil grabs in the 80s
and people like this did exist.
But, yeah, it is kind of having, like, just that inclusion, I guess,
it's a little bit odd.
Should we just do spoilers?
Okay, let's give it a judgment.
What do you think, James?
Look, coming out of it, I'm like, I like the Chris Reeve elements of it,
and it's like fun and light, and the post-credits is like it means nothing,
but it's like, oh, yeah, okay.
And also there's some Themyscira stuff, which I really enjoyed.
Uh-huh, sure.
Again, this one is –
The vague Olympics.
The vague Olympics.
That's what I call them.
The spectacular but also vague Olympics, where it's like you've got to run this race,
and it's a series
of catapults and pulleys and archery tricks and you can get a horse. For some of it though. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. You've got to swim to the horse though, obviously. But yeah, so yeah, somebody
mentioned this and I don't know who, but the fact that they should lean more into that Greek heritage
stuff. You know what I mean? Or whatever it's supposed to be.
Their culture, James.
Their culture.
It's from their culture.
Yeah, but you know what I mean?
Like there is a whole lot.
Like they kind of touch upon like the magic wishing rock is attributed
to a god that they never fully like delve into or anything like that.
And it's like what other gods are out there?
Like you talk about them, but who are they?
I think, look, that's something that maybe we'll say immediately
into spoilers.
But I'm going to say, look, I'm going to say it's not the worst movie ever.
I'm going to say it's the best movie ever.
Yeah.
Grudgingly.
If we were going to break our rule and put something square in the middle
and say this is just a movie, I think this might be this year's just a movie.
But we can't.
But we can't.
So I'm going to say best Best Movie just because I enjoyed some back
and forth between the main characters.
It's a huge swing, by the way, like this entire thing.
It's going for like a particular aesthetic.
Pedro Pascal, really, but I enjoyed him chewing some scenery.
Yeah, totally.
Just going absolutely mad.
Yeah, I'm going to say I enjoyed more of it than I didn't,
but I probably.
I don't want to watch this again.
Yeah, I wouldn't rush out to cinemas.
I mean, if you've got HBO Max and also, again, I did see it at cinemas
and so did you.
Our perceptions of this, I would not swayed then by the idea
that we were watching it at home and we could look at our phones
or whatever.
This would have greatly been affected if I wasn't in a cinema, I think.
And I think that's also a lot of the, you know, some of the criticism,
I think, could also come from that because it was released
in like UK cinemas in Europe.
But the pushback only seemed to come from the home release.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
Some of the pushbacks coming from the cinemas, baby.
Yeah, well, exactly.
Yeah, but not all of it, but you know what I mean?
But, yeah, this is why I'm glad I don't do reviews.
So I can think about it and be like, and then I'm like four days later, I'm like, wait a
minute.
Do you know what I mean?
Like I don't think about it.
I'm like, magic wishing man, wait a minute.
That's not what I had a problem with.
I'm going to say best movie ever with a lot of reservations.
Yeah.
And yeah, if you're, if you're in a situation where you in a situation where your only option is to go to cinemas
and that could be a dangerous proposition, don't risk it, I reckon.
Don't do it.
What are you, an idiot?
Yeah.
That's my new rating system.
Not worth dying for.
Yeah, that's great.
I love that.
Pretty good, right?
Is there any movie that you'd be like, get out there, mate?
Yeah, Tenet.
Yeah.
Is there a better movie, though?
No. There's not a better movie. When I was getting that mate. Yeah, Tenet. Yeah, is there a better movie, though? No.
There's not a better movie.
When I was getting that calendar.
Yeah.
Oh, there was a Tenet calendar?
Oh, my God.
You flip it backwards.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Inversion.
That's money on the table, Christopher Nolan.
If you're listening, you're not.
But you definitely do that.
It's a 32-month calendar and the months meet in the middle. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, right? Why is it 32 months? Because it's a 32-month calendar and the months meet in the middle.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah, right?
Why is it 32 months?
Because it's a 16-month calendar.
Oh, yeah.
So you've got eight months of wasted space.
They put one picture for four months.
Yeah, right?
That's outrageous.
It is outrageous, isn't it?
It's like a 13-month calendar.
But anyway, I was going to say Tenet's on, was on Blu-ray and stuff,
and I considered getting it because I'm like,
should I watch this again with the subtitles on
and just see if it holds up better?
I'll wait.
I'll wait.
Jack Howard's done a bunch of interesting videos on it.
Do you know him?
No.
Yeah, he's a good YouTuber.
He does like a podcast with Mark Hermode.
He really likes it and he's really like delved into the specifics
of how it works.
Okay.
He kind of reframed where certain scenes may have actually appeared
within the timeline.
Okay.
I don't think it made me enjoy it like more than I did, but it did make me understand some
things that I might have missed the first time, which was probably everything.
Because the sound was so bad.
Yeah.
Okay.
Spoilers.
Spoilers.
Did you say best movie ever or worst movie ever?
Yeah, I'm with you.
I'm going to give you a chance.
Just.
Not worth dying, though.
Definitely not.
No tenant.
No tenant, obviously.
Yeah.
I was going to say initially, okay, so the premise,
so the plot of this is resting upon a magic wishing stone
that initially if you find, also it's like every civilization
that got this magic wishing stone was destroyed
and it was definitely the wishing stone.
The Aztecs.
The Mayans, they died of the wishing stone,
not the Spanish showing up and killing them all.
Maybe they wished for the Spanish.
To kill them all.
No, because then they would have got like a weird backlash.
Oh, yeah, maybe.
Anyway, so you get the wishing stone, you get the wishing stone,
and if you hold it.
Maybe they wished for some delightful Spanish food.
Some tapas.
But it came with the Spanish killing them all.
They were like, man, I would really love some tapas.
And then the Spanish were like, well, I'm going to tapas you on the back of the head with this big axe.
That's what's going to happen.
Whatever we use, because we're the Spanish from that era.
Swords?
Swords and cannons.
Whatever we use.
Here we come.
We're going to get you.
Anyway, you hold it, you wish for something, and you get your wish,
but then you lose the thing that is most valuable to you
That is the rule
That is only really
It's a bit vague up until about the middle of the movie
From when they tell you
When they tell you exactly how it works
I had an idea of what was happening
What was the blowback of the guy who got the coffee?
It was too hot
Was it?
Yeah
I missed that
Okay, he was like, ah, this is hot
So it's like, if you So it's not like high stakes It's not like, I wish for a coffee guy who got the coffee it was too hot was it yeah i missed that okay he was like ah this is hot so
it's like if you so it's not like high stakes it's not like i wish for a coffee and it's like
well you wish for a coffee but also we're shooting your grandma into the sun it's like those aren't
equivalent we're setting the spanish after your grandma tapas um i well that's the thing it's a
little bit vague anyway that's good detail it doesn't i guess it doesn't really ultimately
again it's one of those things.
It doesn't ultimately really matter, but it would have been nice
to know definitively is your wish – is the thing you lose equivalent
to what you wish for in terms of scale?
I guess.
So like if you wished for a bag of chips, do you get the bag of chips
but the milk in your fridge goes off?
There's a poo in the bottom.
Oh, okay.
There's a poo in the bottom of the chips.
That's much worse and weirder.
Yeah.
Or, again, are you killed by the Spanish?
I think it's equivalent.
Yeah, okay, right.
So the reason that Steve Trevor comes back, and I was wrong,
I'll grant you, but I feel I'm pretty close.
You were somewhat right, though.
There were some things you, yeah.
So she wished for Steve Trevor to come back,
but in exchange she lost her powers,
and also Steve didn't really come back.
His spirit came back.
Also, it's a- He stole a man's body.
He stole a man's body, which when you think of-
And again, that's why, again,
it felt like a weird one-dimensional kind of child's story
because they were like,
I don't know if I can give you up, Steve,
because I love you so much,
and that's the most important thing because I've
been fighting evil for a long time and I deserve this one thing.
And it's like you've stolen a man's body.
Yeah.
It's not cool.
It's not cool.
But I guess that's the lesson though, right?
Don't steal a man's body.
Don't steal a man's body.
Yeah.
Imagine if her and Steve had been like, yeah, that's fine actually.
Like imagine any kind of moral judgment she makes in any of the subsequent movies
or like Batman v Superman or Justice League or whatever.
She'd be like, we've got to bring this person to justice.
It would be like, remember the time you stole that man's body?
He's dead.
He's dead now.
I gave it back and he had a beautiful scarf at the end.
Yeah, that's right.
We had a nod and a wink.
So it's all right then.
Yeah.
But anyway. Where did he go? Doesn't matter. nod and a wink. So it's all right then. Yeah. Yeah.
But anyway.
Where did he go?
Doesn't matter.
That doesn't matter.
So anyway, you get one wish except when you don't.
Except when you don't.
I'm fine with like the logic of whatever except for that bit where it's like you get two.
So then.
Just grab someone else and go just wish this for me. So anyway, so Maxwell Lord has been researching the stone and he's decided to do the classic
I wish for more wishes situation. but instead he's decided to loophole
around it by saying I wish I was the wishing stone.
Then what he can do is he can wish, he can get other people to wish
for things that they want and then in exchange he takes the valued thing
and he gets it.
But it's like, yeah, but he gets to choose.
He's like, well, I get you a security.
What's in it for this God besides? Nothing. He's like fucking around, mate. I thought they were going to it. But it's like, yeah, but he gets to choose. He's like, well, I get you a security. What's in it for this god besides?
Nothing.
He's like fucking around, mate.
I thought they were going to be like, it's Loki.
And I'm like, come on.
I think it might be a lady god.
All right.
Okay.
Yeah.
They don't really delve into it.
They name the god, but I don't know the specifics of it, I think.
All right.
She's like, it's a god.
The worst one.
And I'm like, you got to sort of whatever.
Who else was it going to be?
You'll be all right.
Yeah.
That's right.
Yeah.
Anyway, so he's like, okay, I'm going to wish for,
I want everybody to wish for more stuff and then I'll ultimately,
what do I get?
More of everything.
I get all the stuff and I'm the, what was his end game?
Everything.
He wanted the world or whatever for his son.
He wanted the world, I guess.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's why he hated his son, but he didn't.
Yeah, I also didn't.
But then that's also the thing, like the idea at the end, Wonder Woman's like, but don't you love your son? And he's like, I also didn't – well, and that's also the thing. Like the idea at the end, Wonder Woman's like,
but don't you love your son?
And he's like, I do.
I mean, I didn't love him up until this point.
I yelled at him that time.
I yelled at him a lot and I've ignored him essentially his entire life
so I could get more stuff.
But now that I'm on the verge of having everything, I'm like, no, I do love him.
Yes.
So I'll just give up everything and I'll renounce all my wishes.
And nobody goes to jail because everyone went crazy.
It's all right.
You guys are all right.
Also, this sort of marks the idea that this movie isn't set
in the Snyderverse really because otherwise in Man of Steel
they'd be like Superman's the craziest thing we've ever seen
except for that time we all wished for stuff and it all came true
when we nearly ended the world in nuclear holocaust.
I was thinking about that.
It's not a thing where the movie ends and everybody forgets about it.
I think it might be, though.
One of those things is like they don't say this, but it would have to be,
where like as time progresses it's just like a vague thing that you sort of remember.
Because of wishing magic.
Because of the wish master.
But, you know, there's even things like, like there's stuff that they don't break
because in this Wonder Woman can fly, but they don't,
it's not really clear whether she can or can't in like the future movie.
So it's like they didn't really step on that too much.
But, yeah, it's not, I don't think it breaks anything too egregiously.
No.
I think.
Yeah.
Not that I give a fuck anyway if it did, if I'm honest.
Yeah, no, that's true.
I don't care.
Yeah, it was the 80s.'t care. It was the 80s.
Crazy stuff was happening in the 80s.
It was crazy stuff.
Don't even worry about it.
But in terms of like the Maxwell Lord stuff, sometimes he's a businessman.
Oh, yeah.
Sometimes he isn't, but he mostly is maybe.
I don't know.
But one of the things he mentions is like his body's falling apart
and he's like, I'll just steal an organ.
I'll get another organs.
Isn't there a version of Maxwell Lord that does that
or is that Ra's al Ghul who's stealing organs and stuff?
You're thinking of Vandal Savage.
I am thinking of Vandal Savage.
Does he do that, though, at all?
Maxwell Lord.
I don't believe so, no.
Okay, well, then they didn't do that.
Could have been Vandal Savage.
Yeah, it could have been Vandal Savage.
It would make more sense.
Yeah, but they didn't do that, Mason.
They didn't do that.
Thoughts about this movie?
I've got them.
I know you do.
Don't worry about them.
I was going to say, is this the first supervillain that nearly destroyed
the entire world because he peed himself that time?
It might have been, yeah.
Let me think.
Maybe Lex Luthor's probably done it as well.
He's probably peed himself.
But if he was in a power arm, he might have got away with it.
That's true.
I think if Superman hit him real hard, like the sonic pulse of it would probably make him piss himself.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Superman could probably, you know, do an incredible brown nose.
Yeah, that's true.
He could do a super brown nose.
Oh, boy.
Is that a real thing?
No, it's not a real thing.
Oh, I wish it was.
Oh, boy.
But if anybody could do it, Superman.
Oh, boy.
So the other thing is there's – so you mentioned it earlier. We were both going to come back to it and maybe we thought of the other thing is there's So you mentioned it earlier
We were both going to come back to it
Maybe we thought of the same thing
So her powers are draining
And then she's like
I have to defeat Cheetah and Maxwell Lord
While he stands in a blue light
Oh yeah, oh yes
But good thing I've got this armour that flies
But it's like you've got all your powers back
Why do you even need that at this point?
And it's a suit that
Also I'm not entirely sure that the suit can fly
itself. It's just got big wings on it.
I think it can. Okay, well then...
It doesn't matter because she can fly at that point as well.
Yeah, no, I feel like this is kind of maybe an editing...
I was going to say also, side-side
note to that. I wonder if the idea
behind her flying in this
is she can just sort of fly for a bit.
I thought it was like catching wind currents
and whipping stuff. Yeah, it's not like Superman flying where she can just shoot in orbit.
No, there is a bit of like, yeah,
it seems like she's more like riding the wind kind of thing.
Yeah, but that's the thing.
Like when, by the time she gets to the fight with Cheetah,
she both has the golden chicken suit,
the wings of which are almost immediately destroyed by cheetah.
But also she does have all the powers back.
Yes.
So it's not,
there's no big dramatic reveal or there's no,
the sacrifice has already been made,
which saps all the dramatic tension.
Yeah.
Like maybe,
and again,
like we're not,
we're,
we're certainly not movie doctors,
James,
but,
uh,
we're not,
sorry to,
sorry to reveal that. late in the year.
There's probably YouTube channels like The Movie Doctor,
which is like, oh, I talk about movies and I'm a doctor.
Oh, yeah.
And I bet it's real boring.
I meant more like a script doctor.
Oh.
Yeah, yeah.
Let me check out The Movie Doctor.
Okay, see if The Movie Doctor is there.
We can do eight years of medical school and then I'll become The Movie Doctor.
We can do a collab with The Movie Doctor.
We could.
But I feel like wouldn't it make more sense if she goes into the battle, she like i've lost all my powers but i've got this golden chicken suit and i'm probably
gonna die in this battle and i'm gonna crash oh no because my wings have been blown off or whatever
and then somewhere else steve trevor announces like he makes the sacrifice yeah or or he's like
in a plane and he's like you've got to make i'm here and you've got to make the sacrifice or whatever.
And she's like, not the plane thing again.
He's like, yeah, again.
This is teaching you a valuable lesson about plane safety.
And then the sacrifice is made like when she's hurtling
towards the ground or something and we're like,
maybe she's going to die or she's going to live
and then Cheetah's going to be a headache or whatever.
Like if you don't think the Hulk can turn into the Hulk or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
But then it was like, well.
She turns out fully powered with a magic suit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And she's going to fight a woman who's a bit strong, I guess.
She's pretty strong.
I think she's equivalent too.
Yeah, right.
Because, you know, she wishes that whatever.
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sure.
But I thought at one point what was happening was the caveat to the wishes
was that Cheetah was draining her powers.
I thought that too.
But that's not what it was.
It was a different wishing man.
Different wishing man.
She got a second wish.
But I think the rule is that you could get one wish from the wishing stone,
but when.
Oh, you get a wishing man wish.
Yeah, then you also get a wishing man wish.
So if you'd never.
So like coffee cup guy would have gotten a second wish,
but if you'd never wished for something on the stone beforehand,
you would only get the wishing man wish.
Okay.
Shout out wishing man wish.
We don't.
No, because I'd have to renounce my wish.
It's true.
Speaking of, it's pretty optimistic to think that people would give up.
Yeah.
All their wishes.
Yeah, and it's, you know, the amount of people who'd be like,
I wish I had a million dollars.
Oh, but your dad's dead.
I don't care.
I've thought about it.
No, because the wishing man knows.
Oh, the wishing man knows.
You take your mum.
No, I think some people are pretty clever.
But also it's sort of.
I wish I had a million dollars and my dad was dead.
There, I did it.
Well, then your dad's going to live forever.
He's going to mooch off you a million dollars.
That's not enough money for forever.
It's not now.
You're in the poor house now.
Oh, boo.
Also, when Maxwell Lord is in the particle beam and he's like,
you wishes are granted, you wishes are granted,
he doesn't actually have any control over that
because when his son comes up to him earlier and says,
Dad, I wish you had the best of everything or whatever.
Oh, yeah.
That wish is granted.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It freaks.
So surely there'd be some people who are absolutely sick of seeing Maxwell Lord on television who would see him going,
Oh, Grant, any wish you desire?
And they'd be like, I wish this guy would go away forever.
And he's like, the twist of the wish is that I won't go away.
Oh, no.
What's poetic irony?
Or like anybody who'd be like, I wish this broadcast would stop
or I wish, you know, I wish there's some bad stuff happening
and I wish the bad stuff would stop happening.
Yeah.
Like when you, and again, it's.
Because it's literally everybody as well.
And that's why it felt like kind of story time. Yeah. Like when you, and again, it's, because it's literally everybody as well.
And that's why it felt like kind of story time.
Yeah.
Because it like,
maybe somebody wished
it to stop and that
was how it stopped.
Or maybe somebody
wished how it was
stopped and that's
why it kept going
because of irony.
Yeah.
Well,
maybe it was like
some people like,
I hate this guy
and get rid of him
and other people
were like,
I wish this guy
would do this forever.
So it cancelled out
or something.
I don't know.
That's right.
I don't have answers
to when billions
of people made wishes.
Maybe one guy said, I wish this guy would go away forever.
And the other guy was like, I wish I had a farm and all these animals appeared.
And it cancelled.
It might have cancelled.
It might have been somewhere in the middle.
Yeah.
So they did the magic jet, I guess, didn't they?
Yep.
The only problem I had with that was it was just like, by the way, I can turn things invisible.
It's like, oh, can you?
Yeah.
Is that a thing that you can do?
Yeah.
Yes.
So they probably were going to be like, can we do a jam?
No, there's sort of a jam already.
So we can't do a jam.
Yeah, for sure.
I think like a magic like item would have probably worked better.
But there was already a magic item.
And, you know, you do, again, this movie is too long
and you need to have had.
You could be like, this is sweet new 80s tech and it's invisible yeah like
i think a lot of a lot of the stuff in this movie was uh built around the idea of if we go another
way it'll add another 20 minutes to the runtime and so like and and that's it's already too long
like i think the idea of if she'd wish steve trevor came back to life and he just appeared in
the streets yeah he would immediately get arrested because he's like, what world is this?
And then there would have to be like a breakout of prison scene and that would add too much.
So if they go, he woke up in the body of this guy and there's a lot about it for a bit.
He thought about it for a bit and there's newspapers and whatever and TV and he figured
everything out and then he just went out into the world.
Then it's fine and it saves a lot of time.
Yeah.
And I think it's probably the same with the jet.
They could have gone like, okay, well, there's a metal in Themyscira
and it's invisible and you can make anything out of it
and they built a boat and we've rebuilt it into a plane or whatever
and now it's an invisible plane.
Cool, but that would add another 20 minutes.
So just be like, I can rub my hands together and make this invisible
and now we've got. I would make Cheetah invisible. And she's like, what the fuck? I'm like, yeah, no one sees you, man. Yeah add another 20 minutes. So just be like, I can rub my hands together and make this invisible and now we've got.
I would make Cheater invisible.
And she's like, what the fuck?
I'm like, yeah, no one sees you, man.
Yeah, that's right.
It's a metaphor.
You're a loser.
You're beautiful, but no one gives a shit.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
I didn't really have a problem with the jet being fueled up.
I'm like, yeah, whatever.
Because I know some people are like, well, the jet be fueled up.
Also, apparently it is a thing.
It's like they often have them ready to go.
Maybe there was going to be a parade tomorrow. Yeah. It was the 4th of July. Exactly. So they fueled it up for the 4 be fueled up. Also, apparently it is a thing. It's like they often have them ready to go. Maybe there was going to be a parade tomorrow.
Yeah.
Was it the 4th of July?
So they fueled it up for the 4th of July.
They're going to fly it about and have smoke come out the back.
They could have come in and karate chopped some pilots
on the back of the neck and started flying.
But then there's another 20 minutes.
Exactly, yeah.
Of them getting the karate chop wrong because she's deep hours.
She can't hit it.
And then there's 20 more minutes of those pilots going through,
like, you know, physical therapy.
I thought you were going to say airport security.
But there wasn't any in the 80s.
No, you could just bring a gun.
There wasn't even an airport.
You'd literally get out of your car and step onto a plane.
I think there might have been a fence that you had to climb over,
but that was it.
So the other thing is I think about the jet, like,
that would be so beyond him. Like, they're not the same. I'll have to fly it. So the other thing is I think about the jet like that would be so beyond him.
Like they're not the same.
Oh, the happy flyer.
No, like whatever.
It's a comic book movie.
But like those aren't equivalent.
That would be like if I drove a car and then they went fly a jet.
I understand some of these.
Because he's not like, oh, this is that and this is that.
He's just fucking flicking switches.
Oh, yeah, I got it.
Whatever.
Whatever.
It doesn't matter. My suspension of disbelief's like, oh, yeah, I got it, whatever. Look, I... Whatever, it doesn't matter.
My suspension of disbelief was still intact at that point, I think.
And I'm like, okay, well, he's, you know,
he's puzzling stuff out and he's flicking the correct switches
or whatever, so it's fine, yeah.
So anyway, I've just written here,
I recognise a blue laser when I see it, you can't trick me.
It was a blue laser.
I know it was contained in like a chamber.
Yeah, yeah.
But come on, man.
And she's yelling at him about remember who you are or whatever the fuck.
Oh, you know what I didn't believe in, James?
What's that?
It was a fighter jet, but the seats were side by side.
Oh, yeah.
Should have been in a row.
But then they can't hold hands.
Yeah, that's true.
And when like.
No, they could have put the hand behind the back.
Yeah, but then they can't look at the fireworks together properly.
And then Wonder Woman goes.
They're like, you seeing this?
No, I'm seeing the back of your chair.
And then Wonder Woman goes to grab his hand
And he does the hair thing
He does the slick
Slick, you know
God, he's good
He's learned it
He's learned it on the telly
You probably saw it while he was doing a Rubik's Cube
So anyway, She Can Fly, there's a Sunshine music
I didn't really like it
I feel like that's placeholder
I love that theme
But I feel like it's placeholder music
And they went, we didn't make a better version of this
I mean, it's good to hear it because it's a good song,
but it's already in other movies and trailers and whatever.
All in all, anyway, they might make three,
but Patty Jenkins is doing a Star Wars and they haven't locked anything in.
Yeah, she said, Patty Jenkins said, I think,
I probably won't direct it, but I have two more stories ready to go.
Okay, there you go.
And I'm like, all right.
Because this is, well, this is Patty Jenkins.
I like the first one.
This is Patty Jenkins and Geoff Johns Johns who is like the chief creative officer
of DC Comics.
So this script was fascinating to me.
Yeah, well, she didn't apparently write the first one,
which I didn't know.
But, yeah, I don't know.
I think they probably should have leaned more into like the Donna,
Superman, Linda Carter, Wonder Woman stuff,
as opposed to like all the different directions that they went.
You could just do solidly like the cheetah story,
like they're friends and then a cursed whatever and she turns
into a cheetah and then a blue light, whatever.
I think it was too many villains.
Too many everything.
It wasn't even the villains.
I think it was just too many everything.
Also, it was also a magic stone that's going to end the world.
Like that's not a fresh.
We've had a decade of that.
What do you want?
What do you want?
A magic potato?
What do you want?
Yeah, a magic potato.
A magic Irish potato.
Yes.
Great.
Anything else?
Post mid-credit sequence.
Oh, yeah, Linda Carter.
Linda Carter.
It means nothing.
Well, it means nothing.
But it's fun.
It is fun.
But also I think that it was, Linda Carter's great
and I thought, again, it was a very clunky,
it felt very clunky, not even McClunky,
which I'm well in favour of, but just when they're like,
oh, that's a lovely name and she went, thank you,
it's from my culture.
Oh, yeah, right.
Just say it's Greek.
It's fine.
It's Greek.
She's got an American accent.
And they'd be like, but you're not Greek.
You're all American.
You're wearing stars and stripes underpants.
And she'd be like, how dare you, and then she'd just tear up the city.
Yeah, that's right.
She was the one who was getting beat up by dudes.
Remember earlier in the movie there was a flashback?
Oh, yeah, that's right.
The 300 dudes, I guess.
I think it was all the dudes from 300.
Yeah.
They kept those abs.
David Wenham.
David Wenham was in it.
He was just putting the boot in.
Good thing she had that golden armoured eagle suit.
Yeah, I agree.
Got some tweets here.
This is from MrKelspert getting freaky.
Hashtag weekly planet pod.
Thought Wonder Woman 94 was just okay.
Some highlights but a lot of weird choices.
I bet James loved the scene where she learns to fly using music from Sunshine,
a.k.a. James Mason's favorite movie.
Guess what?
I didn't love it.
I liked the scene, but I didn't love that.
Andrew Rust says, hashtag weekly planet pod,
is it just me or was Wonder Woman 1984 bad?
Yeah, maybe.
Sassy Coward says, I mean, maybe it was bad.
That's what I meant, yeah.
Says, hashtag we could find a pod.
So Wonder Woman just murdered those robbers at the beginning
after she caught them.
The green screening also looked incredibly disconnected from the world.
Still, I love the invisible plane and flight.
We talked about the opening sequence, which I thought was quite fun.
Which one was that?
Like she's doing Spider-Man-esque Superman-esque.
Like, oh, I'm just saving people and whatever.
But again, that one bank robber or jewelry robber,
he really escalated from like, I'm robbing this jewelry store too.
I will murder this child.
Yeah, that's true.
He didn't think that through.
Pretty cool.
Did she murder them?
I thought she just tied them up.
Yeah, she beat them up.
She beat them up and tied them up.
That's good that she beat them up.
Cool.
All in all, let's talk about this on a commentary in three years.
Okay, cool.
What do you think?
You think you want to do a commentary on this?
Not anytime soon.
Okay, then, great.
Do you?
No, I'm not.
No.
No, I do.
I do.
Come on, man.
Pedro Pascal's out there.
He's doing some mugging.
But we just did it.
I'm not now.
We just watched it.
That's what I mean.
Can we do it when the next one's out, whenever that is?
Yeah, okay, we'll do it then.
Okay, cool.
Sweet.
Thank God.
Sorry, go on. What did you think about the costuming? I quite liked it. one's out, whenever that is? Yeah, okay, we'll do it then. Okay, cool. Sweet. Thank God. Sorry, go on.
What did you think about the costuming?
I quite liked it.
Like the 80s-y stuff?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it didn't feel like egregiously 80s.
Didn't it?
Or wrong.
I mean, it was.
Yeah, yeah.
But it felt like accurate, I guess, is what I'm saying.
Yeah, I think they really, well, it's Lindy Hemming who does.
She did Casino Royale.
She did some of the other Bond movies.
She did, she might have done The Matrix.
I did The Matrix.
That was me.
Did you?
Yeah.
She did the costume from Goldeneye Casino Royale.
Okay.
And all the Nolan Batman movies.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
But I think they were like, just go all out.
Just go nuts.
I don't think the 80s was that 80s.
No.
Like my memories of the 80s are quite foggy,
but I don't think they were ever that 80s.
You didn't have a fanny pack slash bum bag?
No, I did have a fanny pack and a bum bag.
You had one too.
Did you keep your pogs in there?
No, I think pogs were after my time.
Probably kept G.I. Joe action figures in there.
I bet you did, just in case.
And a gun.
A real gun.
A real gun?
Yep, yep.
Oh, my God.
Anyway, good.
I think that was allowed.
All right.
I think that, that being said, I think all like Pedro Pascal suits were bad, but they were 80s bad. Weren't they supposed to be? That was the idea? Yeah, good. I think that was allowed. All right. I think that being said, I think all like Pedro Pascal suits were bad,
but they were 80s bad.
Weren't they supposed to be?
That was the idea?
Yeah, yeah.
It reminded me a bit of Glow.
Oh, yeah.
No, for sure, yeah.
But Glow's more like sad.
Like sad, like Warbass.
Yeah.
That kind of vibe.
Also, I thought Steve Trevor's best look was the one where he pushed the
sleeves up on the suit.
It did look.
And she's like, no, no, no, no, no.
Yeah.
And he's like, come on, man.
That was sick. It was sick. You're absolutely right. Here we go. What we read no, no, no, no. Yeah. And he's like, come on, man. That was sick.
It was sick.
You're absolutely right.
Here we go.
What we read and what we're going to read.
Yeah.
Here we go.
Theme song.
I'm doing the theme.
What are we reading today?
Hey, man, we're in the what we read section.
You better believe we are.
We talk about what we've been reading and watching and doing.
And Mason and I both watched Soul probably.
We did.
We absolutely did because it's free on Disney Plus
if you've got Disney Plus.
And paying for it.
It was good.
I liked it too.
I liked it.
That being said, I did watch it and then later on in the day
I thought to myself, oh, it's pretty late.
Where did all the time go?
And I went, oh, I watched the movie Soul.
You watched the movie Soul.
Yeah, but it's good.
Jamie Foxx is sort of a middle-aged jazz beau.
Jazzing it up.
And he's a music teacher and he had big dreams to become a jazz great, I guess.
But he sucks.
Not at jazz.
No, but life.
Life.
That's right.
He needs to be better at it.
But then he gets a gig with a jazz,
a big wig, and he's like, I'm so excited.
I'm going to die.
I love your big wig.
I'm going to fall down a manhole cover.
I'm going to die.
Down a manhole.
Yeah.
Manhole.
And then there was some twists in here I didn't realize,
like some other things that happened in terms of inhabiting bodies,
which I was not familiar with.
Yeah.
Because I sort of watched the trailers, but maybe the – Yeah, there's more to it than the trailer.
And, yeah, no, it's a lot of fun.
It's about music and life's purpose.
It's definitely on the better end of Pixar films
and beautifully animated and also different styles
of like animation and design,
which I think worked really well together.
Yeah.
Because there's some afterlife stuff.
Yeah, it's some afterlife stuff.
And like there's also more real world stuff than I thought there would be. Okay, sure. I thought it was going to be almost exclusively in the Ghost stuff. Yeah, and some afterlife stuff. And there's also more real world stuff than I thought there would be.
Okay, sure.
I thought it was going to be almost exclusively in the –
Ghost stuff.
Yeah, me too, yeah.
But there's a lot in the real world and just the –
I like the real world stuff more as well, so I'm glad there was more of it.
Yeah, and the real world stuff has really come a long way.
Fuck, it's so good.
It's crazy.
If you go through the credits, and you should because everybody worked very hard on it,
there's like a section for like sweaters.
There's like a whole digital design team for like who did all the,
like the texture on the sweaters.
God, it's so good, isn't it?
Yeah.
It's like, yeah, it's interesting because they populate these hyper-realistic worlds now that they weren't able to do with, you know,
cartoon-ly proportioned people.
And it just, they strike that balance really, really well.
It's very hard to do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because they're not, again, they're not,
also, yeah, they're not photorealistic people, but they.
Like their skin is.
Yeah, and they're not.
And their clothes, like you said.
They're cartoon people, and it's not nightmarish.
That is the twist there.
And also there's, like, because the main character has character has like jazz greats on his wall, like pictures
of Louis Armstrong and stuff like that.
Yeah.
And it's basically like the real versions.
Like they haven't like, they haven't like caricaturized them, but they still fit.
I'm not like, why are you, you're in a crazy world and these people are real.
They've done stuff like that before.
I think Fred Willard, like he's in WALL-E.
Like he's just in it. Yeah. Like there's kind of just stuff like that every now and then. I've done stuff like that before. I think Fred Willard, like he's in Wally. Like he's just in it.
Yeah.
Like they kind of do stuff like that every now and then.
I didn't even notice that.
It's just all blended in the world for me. Yeah, for sure.
And I think it also, look, I'm not like, I don't know a lot about music,
but I think it represented that well and just like I feel like it really kind
of nailed that world or at least a version of it to me.
I don't know anything about jazz.
Well, I'm on Jazz Great.
And?
Yeah, it was pretty accurate, yeah.
Wow.
Pretty good, right?
Did we watch anything else?
Yeah.
Go on.
I don't know.
I'm reading comics.
I'm doing – what did I watch?
I watched that Charlie Brook has a new thing on Netflix.
Oh, Death to 2020.
I haven't watched it yet.
I literally just watched it before you came.
It's not as good as The Wife.
Oh, okay, right. He's not in it. Like you hear his voice because good as The Wipe. Oh, okay, right.
He's not in it.
Like you hear his voice because he's like interviewing people.
Oh, I remember.
And he's a lot of celebrities to like recap 2020.
So it's not a narrative.
I don't think you can do The Wipe because I think BBC does it
and it doesn't really work.
But this isn't a story because it's got Hugh Grant
playing a character, right?
Yeah, no, it's basically The Wipe but it's with famous people.
Right.
Playing characters.
But he has kept in the woman who it's with famous people. Right. Playing characters.
But he has kept in the woman who plays Philomena Kunk.
Yes.
She has a really emotional moment in it as well.
Oh, really?
Which I really like. So it is essentially white, the white.
It is white, yes.
Instead of being like British character actors.
Okay, right.
I think it also does heighten some characters a little bit too much at points.
Like there's a moment where hugh grant plays a historian and he's like we haven't had like a like an event like
this in history since the white walkers took over westeros and they're like that wasn't a real thing
that was game of thrones he's like i'm pretty sure it was real and i'm like that to me doesn't feel
yeah like a lot of it feels like real people sure it's like why would like it's not even that good
a joke that you know that's true yeah but other than that it's pretty solid it's reminding of a set of the final season of the
thing we hate exactly yeah and also like i think it should have charlie booker in it yeah like
doing the camera making jokes about gangnam style i think he's really great like like in person like
yeah no like as a persona i think he's really engaging but like samuel jackson's really good
steve from stranger things is in it oh yeah Samuel L. Jackson is really good. Steve from Stranger Things is in it.
Leslie Jones is really like funny and aggressive.
Philomena Crunk is amazing as always.
So it's still good.
Good, great.
I think it will translate better internationally as well
because the BBC wife or whatever he normally does, it's very British.
It's very British.
Like Donald Gleeson. Like Donald Gleeson, the most British actor. The most British actor there is. It's very British. It's very British. Like Donald Gleeson.
Like Donald Gleeson, the most British actor.
The most British actor there is.
I know people have said he's from Ireland.
Oh, no.
But my understanding is that he lives in the British part of Ireland.
Oh!
But he's not from there.
No, he's not.
Anyway, he grew up in Salisbury.
So, yeah, that's where he's from in England in a small British town.
Yeah.
I know we get emails about us. I just want to clarify where we stand's where he's from in England in a small British town. Yeah. I know we get emails about it, so I just want to clarify where we stand on.
For sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, that we ignore the emails.
Should we do the next segment of the show?
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
I'm doing it.
The classic one was.
Letters, oh, letters, we love you.
Some letters, they're only a day away.
I know they're here right now, we're going to do letters.
Yeah, man, reach the show, hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter.
Reach out, we'll reach out to you.
Maybe.
And then, or WeeklyPlanetPod at gmail.com.
I mean, that's easier.
Yeah.
Because otherwise I have to just sort of guess random email addresses.
You could do it.
I guess I could.
But then I'd have to guess a random email address
and they also have to listen to the podcast
and they're interested in like the money that I'm smuggling out of Nigeria.
Yeah, that's a good point.
What you could do though, if you just went Weekly Planet 69
or Weekly Planet Fan 69, you could just go from there.
Just variations on that.
Yeah, that's probably true.
What have you got? Let's have a Yeah, yeah. You can just go from there. Just variations on that. Yeah, that's probably true. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What have you got?
Let's have a look, James.
Got any Domino Gleason letters this week?
No, but I do have a Scottish letter.
This is from Tommy.
Hey, James and Mayso.
Hey.
I'm saying hi.
Okay, right.
That wasn't to you.
No, you're objecting.
It says Scotsman versus COVID.
Whoa.
Hey, James and Mayso.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey. Hey. I'm talking to you, James. Oh. Nah. I was talking. Whoa. Hey, James and Mayso. Hey. Hey. Hey.
Hey.
I'm talking to you, James.
Oh.
Nah.
I was talking to me.
Okay, nice.
I unfortunately got confirmed positive for COVID on Christmas Day.
Oh, boo.
And things have been pretty crappy since then as I can't see any family or friends to cheer myself up.
Luckily, I decided to buy myself a great Christmas present, which is a subscription, a big sandwich.
You guys have really cheered me up and are making things a lot more bearable.
Thanks for all the laughter and keep up the great work.
Can I be the official Scotsman of the channel?
100%.
If you are going to pass, make sure you cancel that subscription.
We don't want to be taking no dead man's money.
Do you know what I mean?
Don't we?
No, Mason.
Wow.
We talked about this.
You've changed.
No, look, I'll say-
Were you visited by three ghosts, James?
No, I was going to say that.
Because I was visited by three ghosts and I'm like, get out of here.
They're like, you all regret your decisions.
And I'm like, well, they're my decisions to regret,
you dumb old pricks with your stupid chains.
Where did you get the chains from?
The dumb old prick chain store.
Ho, ho, ho.
Hey.
Anyway, I hope you're okay, though.
Yeah, I hope you're doing all right.
Thank you for the subscription.
We do hope you.
Very much appreciate it. I'll bet you're going to bounce back. Definitely. If you're shooting off emails, you're okay, though. Yeah, I hope you're doing all right. Thank you for the subscription. We do hope you. Very much appreciate it.
I'll bet you're going to bounce back.
Definitely.
If you're shooting off emails, you're stronger than ever.
Stronger than Ox.
That's right.
Shooting off emails with COVID.
That's right.
That's from James McDirp says, suggestions for.
Did you say James McDirp?
Yep.
Nice.
For Mr. Thunder movies and at Wikipedia Brown,
hashtag weeklyplanetpod.
Y'all should revisit Tron Legacy in the new year.
The brand was shelved pretty much.
The instant Disney got Star Wars and the rest is history.
We'd love to hear y'all's take on the franchise as a whole.
I think it was already shelved before that kind of happened.
But wait, didn't Disney get a – there's always been a Disney franchise,
hasn't there?
Yes, it has, yeah.
Yeah.
But I think it got shelved because it didn't do well.
But you love that movie.
I do, yeah.
So we will talk about it when the new movie comes out.
It's not the greatest movie.
Oh, it's the greatest showman movie.
But they've taken a real good crack at it.
Yeah.
The soundtrack's amazing.
They'd recently re, there's like a super deluxe edition of the soundtrack.
None of it's new songs, I think, but it's all in the one place, which is important.
One place?
Yeah.
Can you imagine finding music in the one place?
How could you even do such a thing?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'll also, FYI, you mentioned earlier in the show, I nearly bought you
the Joker soundtrack on vinyl.
That present was nearly... What is that, like, haunting
bathroom dance numbers?
Yeah, it's haunting bathroom dance numbers by some
Russian guy or whatever. And then that song by
a pedophile? Yeah, Gary Glitter.
It's all Gary Glitter. I don't want that album.
I'm glad you didn't buy it for me.
I do not want it.
Who's listening to the Joker soundtrack?
I don't know.
I don't know.
But it was on the wall and I'm like, ooh, maybe.
I think even if you love the Joker, you're not like, yeah,
this is fucking where I'm at.
I think it's probably a lot of people expecting Gary Glitter as well.
Oh, okay.
Because the photo is Joker on the stairs.
Yeah, okay.
And his dance.
Is he on Spotify?
Gary Glitter.
I don't want him to be.
No, I don't want him to be either.
I'm just checking.
But also, I don't think he owns his. No, I know he doesn't. be either. I'm just checking. But also I don't think he owns his.
No, I know he doesn't.
I know that.
So he doesn't get any money.
Yeah.
I hope he goes to jail again.
Even though he's currently in jail?
Yeah, but for more.
Yeah, nice.
Yeah, he's on here.
Nice.
Well, I hope the money is going to somebody nice who's not a pedophile.
Anyway, what's next?
Look, I've got a bunch more emails, but this one,
I picked this one for one specific reason.
You will know when we get to it.
This is from Jacob.
He says, I accidentally walked through the set of Leonardo DiCaprio's movie
while filming on my way to the gym.
Whoa.
Hey, James and Maceo.
The other day I was on my way to the gym on the same route I usually take.
For the past few days, there's been a stage at the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston.
On the last day of finals, I was walking to the gym,
and there were far more people than usual.
Long story short, I walked through the entire set while they were filming before realizing what was happening
and nobody said anything to me, even though they had security set up around the set.
Who knows? I might be in the final cut of Don't Look Up. Don't Look Up! That's what it's called.
Can I be the official accidental movie star of the pod? Oh my god, I hope you're in it.
I hope it's like Leonardo DiCaprio who's like, listen, it's really important when we do this, whatever, this movie's
about it. And this is the guy in the background.
Hey, guys, what's up?
It's your boy fucking Jim, dude.
We're hitting up the town.
We're hitting down the Boston's best gyms.
Check out my reps and sets.
Whatever.
They're just like, leave it, whatever.
It's a Netflix film.
Who gives a shit?
But I just like the idea that it's called Don't Look Up.
Don't Look Up.
Don't Look Up.
It's really important we don't look up, guys,
because there's a monster up there. Oh, no. It's really important we don't look up, guys, because there's a monster up there.
Oh, no.
It's a sequel to Bird Box.
And if we look up, he'll acknowledge us?
He'll acknowledge us, yeah, and we don't want that.
It's Adam McKay.
Oh.
And I'm just checking where it's coming out to.
It's a political satire disaster film.
Oh.
Look, I'll give you another.
Here's another email, James.
It says, announce my unborn child.
All right. Daniel. Hello, mates. I recently found out I'm going to be a dad for the first time. Look, I'll give you another Here's another email, James It says, announce my unborn child It's from Daniel
Hello, mates
I recently found out I'm going to be a dad for the first time
I'm looking forward to finally seeing life and movies from James' perspective
Unfortunately, COVID time and space have made it impossible for me to tell some close friends
Who I know are regular listeners to the podcast
Can you please tell Pat and Westlife
What up, Westlife, Pat?
That the release date for my child is late August next year
Let them know I miss them and will hopefully catch up with them What up, Westlife, Pat? It leads that the release date for my child is late August next year.
Let them know I miss them and we'll hopefully catch up with them and the rest of the leads contingent ASAP.
Again, I've just picked this because he has a friend named Westlife.
That's very good.
What up, Pat and Westlife?
It's your boys Jimmy and Nicky just coming out hot for a new release date.
It's coming up August.
It's actually a baby.
It's a baby.
Yeah, nice.
Your friend's baby.
That's right.
That's cool.
And we're saying worst baby ever. Oh, come on, mate. All right, just a baby. That's a baby. Yeah, nice. Your friend's baby. That's right. That's cool. And we're saying worst baby ever.
Oh, come on, mate.
All right, just a baby.
That's as far as I'll go.
That's a pretty big concession for you, I've got to say, as well.
That's very generous.
You gave my baby's worst baby ever.
Anyway, I'm just glad there's somebody out there whose nickname,
I assume nickname and not given name, is Westlife.
Please email in Westlife if you're out there.
Is it because you really loved the boy band Westlife
or is it because you hated the boy band Westlife
and it's a cruel nickname?
I don't think there's a band called Westlife, is there?
There is.
That's why I picked this.
Is it?
There are boy bands called Westlife.
It is, yeah.
I thought they were called West something else.
You're absolutely right.
Westlife.
Maybe his last name is Westlife.
I hope it's not.
I hope if it is, I hope his full name with a nickname is Westlife Westlife. I hope it's not. I hope if it is, I hope his full name with
a nickname is Westlife Westlife.
And I hope that, or okay,
if your name really is Westlife, email in and let
me know how your life changed
when the band Westlife
Probably for the better. Yeah, I would imagine
better, I'd say so, yeah. I should know a Westlife
song. Because is it a case of like
he heard the band Westlife and he hated the band
Westlife and he's like, hey guys, have you heard this
boy band Westlife? And people
are like, what's that? You want your nickname to be Westlife?
And he's like, no! And then it stuck
because that's how nicknames work. Well, Westlife, their song
My Love has 244 million views.
I'd imagine your life would
change regardless. Yeah, you're Westlife.
Getting that kind of life. Maybe he was in
Westlife. Maybe he's in Westlife. Maybe he auditioned
for Westlife and he didn't get Westlife.
But he'd already changed his name by deed poll to Westlife
and gotten the Westlife tattoo.
And he was like, huh, guys?
No, across his chest it's Westerlife for life.
Nice.
And it's all L-Y-F.
It's from James Dolph the Grey.
With Christmas over, what are your favourite holiday dishes?
Personally, I love a good Christmas ham.
Cashtag weeklyplanetpod. I love a corned beef. Yeah. Corned beef? Firstly, I love a good Christmas ham. Cashtag weeklyplanetpod.
I love a corned beef.
Yeah.
Corned beef is good.
I like a good roast potato.
If you're parboiling them and barely roasting them, I'm not interested.
That's a boiled potato with a little bit of Christmas to it.
You want it to crunch, you know what I mean?
Speaking of crunch, I love a roast pork with a crackling.
Oh, I love a crackling.
With maybe an apple sauce on it.
My dad does a good roast pork with a crackling.
Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum.
Class. Australians love a prawnling, mate. With maybe an apple sauce on it. My dad does a good roast pork with a crackling. Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. Close.
Love a, Australians love a prawn at the table.
Yes.
What about the fiddliness associated with it?
It's all part of the magic, James.
So you're happy with that?
You're happy to do that?
I'd rather have someone else do it for me, but there's no one else.
No, there's no one else.
It's just you, mate.
Yeah.
Yeah, cool.
So, yeah, those are all our greatest Christmas pleasures.
That's right.
Also some other vegetables, I guess.
How do you feel about ham?
I love ham.
Yeah.
As the meat, though?
Claire's like, it's the best meat for Christmas.
And I'm like, that's ridiculous.
It's like a side hustle.
You know what I mean?
No, for sure.
It's not the main event, is it?
It's like the seventh best dish.
Who's coming into Christmas?
Do you go to your family's house?
You're coming in the door.
You're rubbing your hands together.
You're like, who's got me a big plate of ham?
A shaved ham. And she's like,
and you can eat it for weeks. And I'm like, yeah, because no one's
fucking eating it. You don't see any
pork crackling left over, do you?
Alright, I see where you're going, but I think you've gone too far.
It is a fine meal. Yeah, it's good, but it's like
as good as like
a sandwich with like a good ham and cheese sandwich
or some other variation.
If you're talking just ham on a plate, get out of here.
This is from Scott Wilkinson.
All through Christmas, my boys opened Roblox and Fortnite gifts.
Every time they came across a character with a minigun accessory,
they yelled, minigun minute.
Hashtag Whippy Planet Club.
How many miniguns did they get?
That's a curious amount of miniguns.
Yeah.
I can't believe you bought them real miniguns.
That's right.
Wow.
You see any good minigun minutes, Mason, lately?
Oh, no. Yes, and everybody. guns that's right wow you see any good minigun minutes mason lately oh no he hasn't everybody
there's our minigun although uh somebody sent in some nice on instagram somebody tagged me
uh let's find let's find them right now james they made a little minigun minute uh little
listener art it's from uh art by lucas a-r-t-b-y-l-u-k-u-s and he's made this little
one here oh that's sick
I mean I'm not in it
But that's sick
No that's right
You look like the 7up guy
Oh Fido Dito
I mean that as a compliment
Yeah no
You tell me that every year
I look like Fido Dito
Oh yeah I didn't see the picture
I'm just saying what you look like
What are we doing
Before we Westlife out of here
I've got a few more emails
Let's do it
A few more emails
How about this one James
Yeah A nail through the thumb And the weekly planet before we Westlife out of here. I've got a few more emails. A few more emails. How about this one, James?
Yeah.
A nail through the thumb and the weekly planet
at Christopher Nolan film.
This is from Stephen.
He says,
Hey, James and Mace,
I'm a relatively new listener
but you've got me hooked.
Well, that's very nice.
I bought a house last year
that needs some fixing up
and I've been doing
all the work myself.
This was a terrible idea
and I do not recommend it.
Listening to YouTube
while working on projects
has been a lifesaver
although I did shoot a nail
into my thumb with a nail gun while you were going on about some nonsense but I want you to know that I do not recommend it. Listening to YouTube while working on projects has been a lifesaver, although I did shoot a nail into my thumb with a nail gun
while you were going on about some nonsense,
but I want you to know that I do not blame you.
Well, yeah, you did that.
Yeah, you did that with your nail gun, I imagine.
We didn't pull the trigger, did we?
No.
I mean, maybe we put that nail gun in your hand, man,
but we didn't pull the trigger.
You pulled the trigger.
Exactly.
I listen to each new episode as they come out,
but I'm also making my way backwards through the archive,
which I've discovered creates a sort of memento-style
non-linear narrative structure in which I slowly discover
the origins of long-running jokes.
Whoa.
I feel like I'm closing in on the big reveal of
What Are We, Westworld?
And I can't wait.
Wow, you're pretty early.
You've got a lot to go.
That's recent.
Yeah.
Or last year?
Maybe.
Fuck, when was that?
Hope you and your families are having a happy holiday.
Thanks for the laugh.
Stephen, in Florida, P.S. the thumb is fine. Well, I'm glad it is. and your families are having a happy holiday. Thanks for the laugh. Stephen, in Florida.
P.S. the thumb is fine.
Well, I'm glad it is.
I didn't ask.
I mean, you put it out.
Oh, my God.
No, Westworld was May of this year.
It ended May of this year.
There you go.
That was this year.
Jesus.
Is that everything?
Oh, you've got one more.
I've got a couple more emails.
Let's see.
We've got a lot of people talking about if they're Christmas babies. Oh, yeah, well, let's see. We've got a lot of people talking about if they're Christmas babies,
like Christmas around the years.
Oh, yeah, we should do some of those.
Duran.
Hey, my name is Duran, like Duran Duran, and my birthday's the 27th,
two days after Christmas, and let me tell you,
I never got as many presents as my siblings,
whose birthdays are in the middle of the year.
It seems that my family are trying to make it up after I said something,
not being a dick, just stating a fact, which is nice.
So that's good. Carlos says, I'm genuinely
100% a Christmas baby and it kind of sucks.
Hey, Nick, James and Dog.
Dog's just come in the room. What up, Dog? Just wanted to let
you guys know that as someone who was born on Christmas Day,
I'm always given one gift instead of two, with the
only exception being my girlfriend. Oh, that's nice.
Anyway, I was wondering if I could get a shout out from
one, my birthday, and two for the fact that I
passed all the classes I thought I was going to fail this semester.
Congratulations.
It should at least have the value of two gifts.
Congratulations.
But it should have at least had the value of two.
It has to be good.
Yeah.
P.S., like Nikolai from last week, I'm from Canada, but I'm from Toronto,
so can I be the official Torontonian of the podcast?
Yes, you may.
Oh, my goodness.
And I've got one more email, James.
Yeah, let's do it.
That's from Taylor Severin.
Lonely mates in the UK.
Hi, guys.
Just wanted to write a quick message to you to see if you could help
sell some lonely mates out.
So we'd love to if you could read this out on the pod.
This year has been terrible for a lot of us, and in the UK,
we're going from blow to blow with lockdowns.
Long story short, I've been feeling really damn lonely
and wanted to help some other mates out.
I'm going to be doing a 20-hour live stream of Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time over on
Twitch.
I'm not at all a streamer.
For the British Red Cross's Operation Anti-Loneliness campaign, I could really do with some support
from great Aussie mates when the UK guys go to bed.
And if it's something, if someone could chuck in a buck, that'd be amazing.
Stream will be the 29th of December 2020, which will be out when?
What's that?
That'll be on, let me check, that'll be on Tuesday.
From 10am GMT, which is Greenwich Mean Time, I guess.
Donn Morgleason time.
Yeah.
The link is twitch.tv slash taylorseraph.
So T-A-Y-L-O-R-S-E-R-A-P-H.
Check it out.
Check it out. That's exciting. He's going to do a 20-P-H. Check it out. Check it out.
That's exciting.
He's going to do a 20-hour live stream.
A live stream.
A live stream.
Hasn't 2020 just been that, James?
No, you weren't wrong.
Just a 20-hour live stream, you know what I mean?
But anyway, that's great that people – yeah, it's been a weird old year,
but I'm glad –
It really has.
Everybody's helping each other out,
which has made it a much better year than it could have potentially been.
I couldn't find any of the things I was the birthday things, but there was, I got a lot.
We got some birthday things.
We'll read that next week.
No, we won't.
We've forgotten already.
No, I'll remember.
No, you won't.
No, I won't.
What's next?
But some people get to double presents.
Yeah, that's cool.
Guys, thank you so much for listening.
This is the last episode of the year.
But not the last episode ever, because that's next week.
That's right.
There's no more episodes. But then we'll take two weeks off, and then This is the last episode of the year. But not the last episode ever because that's next week. That's right. There's no more episodes.
But then we'll take two weeks off and then we're going to relaunch the podcast.
That's right.
Maybe it's going to be episode one again.
We're going to do that and spin out people who don't like that.
That's right.
But, guys, I hope you all had a wonderful Christmas.
I hope you had a wonderful New Year's because it's going to be after New Year's
when the next episode comes out.
So I hope everybody's having a nice New Year's.
A safe one.
A safe one, absolutely.
And, yeah, thanks, everybody, for listening this year.
What a bloody weird year it's been.
It's been good, hasn't it?
Oh, yeah, it's been a normal good year, hasn't it?
Yeah, it's been because we never leave this studio, so we don't know.
We don't know.
Or care.
Yeah.
I hope listening to the podcast has been some sort of respite
from the bloody world.
We've tried to keep it as novel as possible.
But just know we're spiralling hard.
We also went mad.
We went mad earlier than everybody else.
We were early adopters to going a bit mad.
I think people noticed.
Yeah, I think they definitely did.
But I think doing this has also helped me in a big way.
Oh, yeah, same.
Me too.
If I had nothing to do, then I don't know.
Because people, you know, when people have emailed in and said,
you know, they're doing better or they're getting through life or whatever,
it's good to know that there are people out there.
Totally.
You know, everybody is a bit isolated.
So it's good that we're getting the emails as well.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, but anyway, in the meantime, on to the plugs, James.
Here we go.
James.
James.
James.
James.
But also the listeners, thank you for listening.. James. James. James. James. But also the listeners.
Thank you for listening.
Like I said, thank you for subscribing.
Thank you for telling a friend throughout this weird, weird year.
That's right.
You can leave a review.
You can do it in-app.
Just open it up and be like, bam, here we go.
James, you got any?
I doubt you do.
I do.
I've got two.
What?
This is from TNVB77.
It says, my favorite podcast.
I've been listening to this podcast for years.
And though you have said you can leave a review in app,
for some reason it's gone over my head until this week.
I enjoy both your chemistry and dry human has gotten me through some dark times.
So thank you both.
Still trying to get my boyfriend 12 years to listen to you,
though it usually takes him a few years to stumble upon something I recommend to him
and tell me about and said that I already
recommended it.
And I also have waited for you guys to talk about Peaky Blinders.
It's my favorite show and I'd love to hear feedback on it.
I need to do that show that I haven't watched.
Let's re-watch the first episode of Peaky Blinders.
Agreed.
And then we'll do an entire episode.
And then we'll play the Switch game of Peaky Blinders.
Is there a Switch game?
Yeah.
Wow.
What do you do? Is it like a mafia Is there a Switch game? Yeah. Wow. What do you do?
Is it like a mafia mob boss kind of game?
Let me check.
Anyway, you keep going while I check.
Folks.
I'll add another review before you do that.
Yep.
Grand Australian Times from Jack F98 says,
Listen, since 2016, never missed an episode.
Still my absolute favorite podcast to walk my dog Lucy to.
So thank you, both of you.
There we go.
Sorry, continue.
The person and the dog.
Correct. Folks, if you want person and the dog. Correct.
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He tells you about everything that's coming out this week,
all the bonus stuff, all the stuff that we have forgotten about ourselves,
but he's always on the ball.
Even if you don't want to know, he's telling you.
That's right.
You can't avoid it.
He sends 15 emails a day.
That's right.
You've got to also realize that guy does so much work as well.
He's running stuff that you don't even bloody know about.
He's an absolute godsend if you believe in God or the devil, whatever.
Whatever you believe in.
He's doing their work.
That's right.
Exactly.
That's his motto.
I'm doing one of their work and I'll never tell.
That's it.
I'll never tell.
You can also, he's on Twitter also.
Yeah, he is.
Raw Collings at The Weekly Planet.
You can follow him there.
You can also follow me at Wikipedia Brown on Twitter and on Instagram.
I'm Nick Maser.
That's right, that's right.
N-I-C-K-M-A-S-E-A-U, James.
You are Mr. Sunday Movies Everywhere.
Yep.
You can also go to the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group.
Taylor, if you want to put the link to the stream you're doing,
put it in the Facebook group.
Boom, do it.
It's where people are very nice and have a nice chat and a good time
about all kinds of pop cultural stuff.
Exactly.
That would be rad, yeah.
And Legend of Zelda probably.
It's also important that people know that Peaky Blinders Mastermind
is a puzzle adventure game based on the multi-award winning TV show.
Become the mastermind as you control key characters and pull off a perfectly synchronized plan.
Oh, my God.
It's isometric.
I don't know what's going on here.
Sounds really good.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
If you're a fan of the show, is this good?
I can't tell.
Surely not.
It sounds like, you know, when you get-
It's got okay reviews.
You know, when you're on Instagram and you get like a and you get one of those weird ads for it's a puzzle game
and it's like a man with a mustache and he's pulling metal rods out of a thing and then he drowns?
Yeah, they're like, is this too many metal rods? Help the man.
I'm like, I don't fucking know this guy.
I clicked on one of those once and it's like the game is not anything like that.
It's nothing like that.
I was trying to pull out rods and drown a man, but it was something else.
That's so true. That's all of that. I was trying to pull out rods and drown a man, but it was something else. That's so true.
That's all of those guys, aren't they?
They trick you.
It's like, there's enough.
These gems are filling up and killing me, maybe.
If you'd like to help us earn enough money to buy gems and kill ourselves.
That's right.
You can go to patreon.com.
Then we can leave them to our families and loved ones.
That's right.
You can chuck in a buck.
That's right.
Or just do whatever you wish because it's the holidays
and just be nice and chill.
Exactly.
Or you can go to the Amazon affiliate link in our episode description
and click through there.
You want to buy some stuff on Amazon?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can definitely do that and that would help us out.
Or you can go to bigsandwich.co.
You can sign up for $9 a month, $9 American United States dollars.
USDs, baby.
Until the economy crashes, then we're going to change the currency.
Oh, yeah.
Hell yeah, baby.
And we'll do some lira.
We'll have to see.
I would love to get some lira every month.
Me too.
Yeah.
But we've got bonus podcasts.
We've got movie commentaries.
We've got all sorts of stuff.
Even when we're taking a couple of weeks off, there'll be more stuff at bigsandwich.co.
Correct.
It's all good.
I'm enjoying it.
It is all good.
We've got some new podcasts up there that I'm bloody loving.
We do.
They're good fun, aren't they? Yeah, they're very good fun. Okay, and that's the show for this week. I'm enjoying it. We've got some new podcasts up there that I bloody love. They're good fun, aren't they?
Yeah, they're very good fun.
Okay, and that's the show for this week.
See you next week.
Thank you to the Brute and the Bass.
I was going to rack them for all the musical things.
We've got t-shirts on tbopalick.com.
A lot of people bought them for Christmas presents.
I know, haven't you?
I saw someone.
I don't have their name here, unfortunately.
But they did.
They were like, well, this sums up 2020, doesn't it?
And it's the Your Face, I'm Fine question mark t-shirt,
which is a real classic, a Fergal Quigley classic.
It is.
That is the show, I think.
It is the show.
We will catch you next week for the first podcast of the new year.
But our last podcast for the year.
Then two.
Yep, we're doing one podcast, but, man, we're going to really stuff it in for 2021.
We also might record it early.
I don't know what we're doing.
I hear.
Anyway, see you guys.
Goodbye.
We're out there jamming, you guys. See you. Goodbye. See you in 2021. See also might record it early. I don't know what we're doing. Oh, yeah. Anyway, see you guys. Goodbye. And goodbye. We're out there jamming, you guys.
See you.
Goodbye.
See you in 2021.
See you next year.
See you next year.
You know when people do that?
It's New Year's Eve.
People are like, I'll see you next year.
And then they turn around.
It's 2021.
That's me.
I wish you were the man in the metal rod game and I could drown you in metal rods.
I just pulled a lever.
You're like, this is too many.
And I'm like, yeah, but the joke.
And you're like, yeah. Yeah, no, this is good, yeah, but the joke. And you're like, yeah, oh, yeah.
Yeah, no, this is good actually.
Yeah, I'm liking it.
At least until then.
You've also combined two callbacks.
That's very nice.
This is you as you're dying.
I accept my death for the bit.
All right, goodbye.
Okay, bye.
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