The Weekly Planet - 373 How To Adapt Video Games To Movies
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Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows.
My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday.
With me as always is my co-host Nick Mason.
It's great to be here.
It is great to be here.
What's the news of the world?
Oh, because you haven't been outside, is what you're saying.
Never, and I never will.
The pizza place near you
is still selling good pizzas.
Is that true? Yep. Yeah. Do you mean
good old dirty Aussie pizzas? That's exactly
right, yes. A bit crust, too much
ham. You read my mind and you
smelled my breath, is what happened there.
Yeah. You're picking one up after
the show, aren't you? No, I had one.
Oh, you had one?
Yeah.
My goodness, you must have smashed that like a...
I really did.
It was probably too fast.
The roof of my mouth is burning.
You could have eaten it here.
Did you eat in the car out the front?
No.
You could have come in.
No, I refuse.
People are going to want the pizza.
I don't know.
Do you want the pizza smell when you get back in the car?
You want that?
Yeah, exactly.
I want that.
Some people like a new car smell.
I like somebody's eaten too many pizzas in this car smell.
Gotcha.
Absolutely.
Anyway, big week for everything.
There's lots of things.
Entertainment.
We did our WandaVision.
Oh, we did, didn't we?
We recorded some videos.
Yeah.
We did a WandaVision.
We reviewed Superman 4.
We did. Oh, that's We did a WandaVision. We reviewed Superman 4. We did.
Oh, that's coming up, isn't it?
Superman 3 is this week.
I should let the listeners know I recorded those on a lot of painkillers.
With an extraordinary headache, yeah.
I don't think you can tell.
Okay.
Yeah.
Good.
Okay.
Good.
Nobody said anything, but we'll see.
But then again, we did the Superman one after, so it may have been getting worse.
Oh, that's true, yeah.
Yeah, and look, I haven't done the audio edit of that yet to send to Ben.
And so as a little treat for myself, I watched our WandaVision recap
because normally I wouldn't, but I'm like.
What did I say?
I'm like, I think I made a reference to John Krasinski,
and then I watched it.
I'm like, that's all I did.
I just made constant references to John.
Did you really not remember that?
Yeah.
That was like the linchpin of the show.
Well, there you go.
I thought it turned out well also because colleagues does an amazing edit of it.
Amazing, yeah.
Speaking of, this week's episode will be a little bit late.
That's right.
Because you are working Friday, which is when we normally watch it.
So we'll probably push back a day just so people know.
But it's still coming.
In the meantime, let's do some-
Don't make any other theories while we're away.
Please don't.
Do not engage your own brain.
It's not healthy.
Minimal speculation.
It makes it hurt, as I've learned.
That's right, exactly.
So don't risk it.
I can't believe you did that on a migraine.
It's incredible.
You shouldn't have done it.
I wouldn't have done it.
But that's just me.
I'm a coward.
Well, you don't commit to content.
No, I don't.
You've never done it.
No, why would I?
That's why I just talk about other people's content.
It's just easier.
It's just easier to be like, this is crap.
Make a better thing.
Make a better one.
Why is this old movie not as good anymore, you know, of that guy?
Anyway, this week we're talking about the new Justice League trailer,
which I don't think you've spoken about yet.
I want to hear your thoughts.
Certainly not publicly.
No.
Tim Burton's doing a new thing with the Addams Family.
There's a Cruella trailer.
You saw that.
A composer for Doctor Strange.
Constantine's getting another series.
Star Wars news.
And then, of course, we've got a couple of special guests coming in
to talk about some video game stuff.
That's right.
And plug some stuff.
And plug some stuff, yeah.
We wouldn't bring anybody in just to talk about stuff.
We don't do that.
We're not crazy.
Let's get started, though.
Justice League trailer.
So I did a trailer breakdown.
So people have no doubt watched that and just loved it.
But what did you think of it?
Refreshing my memory.
What did happen?
It's got that IMAX ratio.
Steppenwolf in this version is revealed to have like.
His head looks like that.
The helmet is shaped like his head.
Yeah.
How does he get it on?
I guess it's nanotech or something. Yeah, it's like spikes. But he's got a hammerhead shark his head. Yeah. How does he get it on? I guess it's nanotable or something.
Yeah, it's like spikes and-
But he's got a hammerhead shark-shaped skull.
Yeah.
Bad.
Think he's got extra brains in there?
Yes.
Follow-up question.
What is-
And this is just-
This doesn't-
This isn't specific to this version of the Justice League universe or whatever,
but why all these people have, like, different shaped heads and shit?
Like, is there, like, a race?
Because they just look like just a collection.
A race to have the weirdest head.
Yeah, exactly.
It's just a collection of oddbots, you know what I mean?
That's true.
Just standing around, do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
The Raggy Dolls.
The Raggy Dolls.
As we said before, all modern culture is based on a cartoon I saw once
about 30 years ago called The Raggy Dolls.
Because, like, Darkseid is, like, three foot tall and Steppenwolf
and they have different shaped heads, but also maybe they're related
because Steppenwolf is his uncle in the comics or something.
You know what I mean?
But he's a big rock man.
And then there's just, like, a regular old woman there.
Do you know what I mean?
Oh, thank goodness it's just a regular woman.
Yeah, Desaad's, like like a big fish piranha faced dude sounds
delightfully diverse if you ask look i'm not complaining but i'm just i just have i just want
to know what they're up to where are they from are they from different places it's a different
continents do you know what i mean maybe it's just like uh maybe it's just a mutation of birth
okay and you you know you you your husband and wife and you're in the doctor's office
and they're like congratulations it's a boy and then they show you the ultrasound and you're in the doctor's office and they're like, congratulations, it's a boy, and then they show you the ultrasound and you're like,
oh, that's going to be a heck of a thing getting out
because that baby has a hammerhead head.
It could be one of those things where, like, you know,
where you bind that foot binding that they do.
Oh, yes.
It's like that but with a head.
Or how you make a square watermelon.
Exactly, how you make a square watermelon.
So when your baby's born, you put him in a hammer-shaped helmet.
That's right.
Okay.
And you never let it out.
Oh, that was the big reveal from this trailer that I've just remembered.
At the end, of course, we live in a society.
The one new saying that we got that they've filmed for it.
What did you think?
That's ironic, right?
I mean, what do I think?
Is it relevant what I think?
Yes, Mason.
It's ironic, right?
It's ironic?
It's a joke.
Like it's an I'm the juggernaut bitch kind of insert, I guess,
because the meme endures and turns into that.
I wonder about that.
I wonder also if maybe there's a re-dub in this because he says, you know,
we live in a society, something, something, isn't that right?
Batman.
And I'm wondering if in the movie he says, isn't that right?
Bruce Wayne.
Oh, my God.
Because I know your secret identity.
But at that point it's like it's the future.
We're in a desert.
It doesn't.
I'm not sleeping in a boardroom.
I'm running around the desert in my Batman costume
and an additional trench coat on top of that costume.
Yeah.
Good stuff.
You'd think at that point you'd probably ditch the Batman cow
for like maybe something.
It's bulletproof, remember?
Oh, yeah. I forgot it's completely bulletproof, remember? Oh, yeah.
I forgot it's completely bulletproof, yeah.
You would absolutely not ditch it.
You can hit it with a tank shell and he'll be fine.
So I guess that's probably right, yeah.
Okay, good point.
I was going to suggest some sort of flowing robe,
like a hood or something, but you're right.
It'd be cooler in the desert, loose layers.
That's right.
Speaking of migraines, though,
that guy would have had a migraine-fighting doomsday.
Like, really, wouldn't he?
He got shot in the back of the head,
and then it's like, and you've got to fight this monster.
Oh, God, okay.
Good thing.
I'm easily the least useful person here.
Maybe that explains some of the mistakes that were made
in that final scene about the movie Superman.
Maybe it does.
He's popped some ibuprofen or whatever.
It's finally taken effect, and he's like,
hey, wait, just get Wonder Woman to throw the spear.
Oh, it's too late.
Too late.
Oh.
They took the rapid one.
Yeah, exactly.
The water-soluble.
Isn't that even better, even quicker?
Maybe, yep.
It tastes bad, though, so I'll wait.
So Warner Brothers also apparently suggested to Zack Snod,
who's doing the rounds, that maybe they should release it
in an unfinished state.
Just put it out.
We've got an edit.
Wait, what?
In what sense?
Put the movie out.
He edited it.
It just hadn't had the special effects on top of it.
And he was like, no, I'm not doing that.
Like how X-Men Origins Wolverine was leaked.
Yeah, exactly.
Pre-special effects.
Yeah, well, some of them would be.
Why?
Because then they don't have to put any money into it.
Oh, this is an in addition to.
No, no, yeah, this is instead of.
I thought you meant in the sense of like as a little teaser,
we'll release the movie you're going to release with no special effects on it.
That would, okay.
Yeah.
So their option, so their counteroffer to him was,
can we just not spend any more money on this?
Yeah.
Wow.
Great stuff.
Well, it's a very reasonable offer as opposed to spending the $80 million
or whatever they're spending on it.
Yeah, because that's true.
And will they make a return on that?
We don't know at this point because they don't, I don't know.
We'll find out the numbers of who signed up for it and whatever,
but HBO is going to have a bumper year regardless.
Maybe they would have to, I'm sure there's some way to calculate
like the number of people who signed up in the month preceding
and then how long it takes before they cancel again.
Then you can go, okay, well, they stuck around for six months
so that counts as the box office.
Exactly, yeah.
And if it's indefinitely, then you always get that money.
That's right.
You know, that's how it works.
The other thing is apparently he turned down a miniseries
about Robin and Joker, so like how he killed Robin and whatever.
Or became the Joker.
Oh, my God, can you imagine?
Bruce, it's me in a society and I'm Robin.
And I've always been Robin.
Yeah.
So that's good.
I guess.
Not good. I would have liked to have seen that, if I'm honest. Yeah, it would have been fun. Yeah. So that's good. I guess.
Not good.
I would have liked to have seen that, if I'm honest.
Yeah, it would have been fun.
See his version of that.
Also, I guess this version of the, I guess this, the version of the joke we've seen in Suicide Squad got all of his tattoos in like a very short period of time.
Yes.
And in this version, the apocalypse happened and he didn't have a chance to go to the tattoo parlor, I guess.
No.
Well, maybe the whipping sand, like, took that tattoo off his forehead.
Okay, sure.
You know what I mean?
Just, like, ground it down.
That's what I think has happened here.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So speaking of that series, though,
we don't know when specifically that was mentioned.
I'd imagine it was around the time of Batman v Superman.
But also, do you have written there that...
I have nothing else written here.
I was going to say Zack Snyder expressed interest this week
in directing an Arthurian legend.
Oh, yeah, no, I have.
I do have this written here actually, yes.
I've been thinking about some kind of retelling,
like a real sort of faithful retelling of that Arthurian mythology concept.
We'll see.
Maybe that will come out at some point.
No thanks.
And it's not because of him specifically.
It's just I don't want to see any more King Arthur shit.
We just did it.
It was King Arthur with lads, remember?
Oh, lads, lads, lads.
Yes, exactly right.
Yeah, no, you're right.
And, you know, based on, you know, the symbolism of Batman v Superman,
Donald Justice, he seems to be really on board with, you know,
Excalibur and King Arthur and all that sort of stuff. A woman throwing a sword from a lake or whatever. Justice. Yeah. He seems to be really on board with Excalibur and King Arthur
and all that sort of stuff.
A woman throwing a sword from a lake or whatever.
Yes.
Yeah, cool.
So I guess he'd do it more fantasy-esque, right?
Not like Clive Owen's King Arthur where it was just a guy called Arthur
and he pulled the sword out of his parents' grave or some shit.
Remember that?
Yeah, you saw it with me, I think.
No, I don't think I did.
Never seen King Arthur 2004?
It's just a man wandering bleary-eyed out of a pub
and he finds a sword in a gutter and he just uses it
to steady himself as he waddles home.
Terrific.
Apparently the kid who will be king, should be king,
this kid's king.
Apparently that's good, that recent one.
I've heard nothing but good things.
The Joe Carnahan movie, I think.
He's involved in some way.
But look, honestly, let him do it.
I don't care.
Like, yeah, go for it.
And I think I said something similar on Twitter, but I cannot wait.
It tickles me, the idea of just like people whose whole lives
have been devoted to, you know, exploring the myth and legend
of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table
just being told they don't understand the symbolism
by just like people
with sucker punch avatars.
I think that would be a lot of fun.
I bet you got a lot of great responses to that as well.
Mostly not actually.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I think the Snyder fan base operates in waves.
Yeah.
I think they're very intense for a minute and then they cool off
or they get tired and they have to have a little nap.
I think they took a hit when he supported Joe Biden as well.
I think they put a dent in it.
Ah, I didn't know that.
Yeah, he did.
He was like, I love farming and I love Joe Biden.
Some people were like, well, I love farming but I hate Joe Biden.
All right, okay, sure.
Or whatever happened there.
Speaking of dark, we took a dark turn then with The Justice League,
the darkest movie ever made.
Tim Burton is bringing back
wednesday adams but to netflix in a live action coming of age series burton will make his tv
directorial debut on the sleuthing supernaturally infused mystery that follows wednesday as a
student of the nevermore academy so just wednesday adams interesting but i would have to be the other
the family would yeah i was always the under the impression as a kid that the Addams Family
was the superior spooky family product to the Munsters.
Have we had this discussion?
I don't know.
But I think.
But the Munsters was more popular?
I think so.
And probably because it was more like very clearly defined.
Frankenstein, the mummy and whatever.
Yeah, very clearly defined archetypes.
There was a Frankenstein and a vampire and et cetera,
whereas the Addams Family is just like a bunch of weirdos.
I think I've only seen Addams Family values.
Ah.
Which Addams Family have you seen?
I've seen all the Addams Families.
Did you see the third one with Daryl Hannah?
Okay, I haven't seen the third one.
Did you see the animated one from like a year and a half ago?
Haven't seen that one.
This is an interesting thing that you said before.
I've played the Super Nintendo games.
Oh, are you Uncle Fester?
No, you're Gomez. Okay, so but Addams the Super Nintendo games. Oh, are you Uncle Fester? No, you're Gomez.
Okay, so Adam's family, I think, nests your Uncle Fester.
And you've got that gun.
Fester's Quest.
Yes.
That's a different game.
That's a different game.
Have you played all the games as well?
Yes, I've played Fester's Quest.
I've just seen the Angry Video Game Nerd episode.
Uh-huh, yeah.
That's all.
Oh, speaking of dark.
Uh-oh.
It's getting darker in this room.
The Cruella trailer. Oh, yes. So people Uh-oh. Things are getting darker in this room. The Cruella trailer.
Oh, yes.
So people are saying this is Joker, but for Disney?
Like it's Disney's Joker.
Oh, yes.
Uh-huh.
But it's Cruella.
Right.
Cruella.
Cruella.
Looking forward to this for six months.
This is going to be great.
This is going to be great.
I don't care about this because I've never cared about this franchise,
but I like Emma Stone and I like where one
side of your hair is one colour and one's the other.
So that's all I need. Big fan of that
bat dance here of Prince.
I'm not. But, what did you
think of this trailer? I mean,
look, I think, I mean, it doesn't
paint her in a particularly good light,
the character, so I feel like it's not
we're gonna, it's not a
Maleficent where it's like, we're going to show how
actually she was kind of hard
done by and actually the dogs deserved it.
Yeah.
Do you think she's going to take...
It will take a dark turn,
it would seem. Do you think it's going to lead into
another 101 Dalmatians
movie? Like the Glenn Close versions?
Have you seen all those? No.
Sometimes you just say you have it
when you haven't, that's all. That's why I ask.
That's the only reason why I would ask. Am I constantly
claiming that I've seen, oh, okay,
my previous form from a few minutes ago.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, sure. Exactly.
Well, speaking of dark,
Doctor Strange 2 has a composer,
the multiverse of madness.
It's a Sam Raimi property. So it's
going to be Danny Elfman? It is going to be and is Danny Elfman.
What do you think of that?
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, you know.
I like his Spider-Man score.
I like his work, yeah.
I don't like his Justice League score, but I don't blame him for any of that.
So, yeah, he's good.
And it makes sense.
Though they did have that brief falling out with Spider-Man 3,
but they've been working together since.
So that's cool.
Did they?
Yeah.
We talked about it in the Spider-Man 3 video.
I bet we did, yeah.
Yeah, we definitely did.
It was like three years ago.
You don't know.
And you've had many migraines in between.
Oh, boy.
So don't even worry about it, mate.
So, yeah, what do you think of that?
Great.
Good.
Yes.
Good.
That's the correct answer.
Well, speaking of dark, Variety reporting.
I hope they release the track listing like slightly in advance
and it ruins WandaVision for people.
Yeah, absolutely.
Like track one's called like, yep, Doctor Strange is in this.
Yeah, he's in episode eight at the 34-minute mark.
So look forward to that.
Speaking of the WandaVision video, we got you all.
We got you so good.
We got some people.
Yeah, we got some people.
Tricky little thumbnail.
Yeah.
Actually, I just saw a comment that was like,
you shouldn't clickbait in your videos by putting John Krasinski.
Okay.
I won't do it again.
Just kidding.
I'll do it every opportunity I get.
Speaking of Dark, though.
Yes.
Constantine is getting another series, this time to HBO.
Sources report that the project will be connected to the platforms
in development Justice League Dark series, which J.J. Abrams is producing.
So potentially, though, they're not going to be going
with a blonde-haired British white guy.
As per the last TV series.
Yes, the last version.
And at first I was like, sure, like doesn't bother me,
like put in like an Idris Elba, put in whoever,
as long as he's British.
But then I realised Keanu Reeves did it and I liked that.
So honestly, I'm just like, fuck it, whoever.
I don't care.
Make him whoever.
It doesn't bother me.
I was going to say as long as it's a man, but it doesn't matter either.
No, it really doesn't.
It doesn't bother me at all.
So what do you think of that?
New Constantine Dark series.
Okay, great.
It'll probably be someone from, what's that show called?
I was going to call it Bethlehem, but it's not called that.
It's on Netflix and everybody's not Ravenhall. What is that. It's on Netflix and everybody's, not Raven Hall.
What is it?
It's like British and everybody's-
This is abroad.
Being in love with it.
Bridgerton.
Oh, okay, right.
Fuck.
Someone from Bridgerton.
Everybody in Bridgerton is in everything now.
I don't know if you've noticed.
I haven't noticed.
Yeah, they're all getting cast big time.
One of them's in the new D&D movie.
Oh.
Yeah, so that's exciting, I think.
What do we know about the new D&D movie?
Chris Pine. Mm-hmm. This is one of the guys from&D movie. Oh. Yeah, so that's exciting, I think. What do we know about the new D&D movie? Chris Pine.
Mm-hmm.
This is one of the guys from Bridgerton.
Oh, yes.
Another person from Bridgerton.
Yep.
And I can look up a director or something.
And it's going to be the thing of, hey, we're playing a D&D game and now we're in D&D.
I don't know that.
I hope not.
I think it is, though.
I think we thought.
I think we were just like, we suspected that
because we went through all the options of what it could be.
Yeah, right.
John Francis Daly and Jonathan Goldstein,
who I think they worked on Game Night.
Yep.
That's why we made the hypothesis, yes.
Chris Pine, Michelle Rodriguez, and Justice Smith.
He's from Detective Pikachu, isn't he?
Yes, that's right.
So there you go.
Cool.
And somebody from Bridgerton I think I saw.
Okay, sure.
I couldn't tell you.
Great show that Bethlehem, though.
Check it out if you can.
Speaking of dark, but this is not dark for everybody
because some people liked The Last Jedi, me and you.
We liked it.
Yeah, but if you don't like The Last Jedi,
that means we don't know what to do.
We don't know what to do with that.
That's up to you. Oh, I know what to do, that. You're going to have to, that's up to you.
Oh, I know what to do, James.
That's up to you.
I can't say it on this podcast.
Oh, my goodness.
It's getting rude.
But so Soraya will.
Because then I'd have to buy everybody a present, James.
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah.
Because you want everyone to have a positive Star Wars experience.
That's exactly right.
Maybe a keychain.
Because if you're getting everybody, it'd have to be something small.
Yeah, yeah, like X-Wing keychain.
Yeah.
X-Wing keychain, like metal.
Yep. But almost guaranteed if you put it in your bag or. Yeah. X-Wing keychain, like metal. Yep.
But almost guaranteed if you put it in your bag or whatever,
one of the wings breaks off.
I love it.
So you've got like a three-legged X-Wing.
Soraya Wilson says she spoke to Rian Johnson.
A lot of people have been going, Rian Johnson,
what are you doing with Star Wars?
Oh, no, is this a person they won, did they win a charity auction?
Something like that, maybe.
With Rian Johnson?
I'm not sure. Okay. I wish that, maybe. With Rian Johnson? I'm not sure.
Okay.
I wish I won a dinner with Rian Johnson.
I'd ask him about the movie Brick, but also his other movies.
I don't watch The Brothers Bloom.
I started the other day and I had to move away and do a different thing.
But it looks good.
I was enjoying the four minutes I watched it.
It does look good and it is good.
Yeah, cool.
So she said, I'm just going to post this now because I can see I'm going to get a lot of
requests.
Yes, Rian Johnson's Star Wars trilogy is still on. No dates or timelines because he has
other projects going on, but it is happening. That is all I know. So I think when we talked
about this a while back, maybe we did a video on it, all the cancelled Star Wars properties and
the people who are involved in them have been removed off the website, like even the announcement.
I see, right.
But the last time I checked, this one hasn't.
So as far as I know, this is going ahead.
Do you think the dinner went, she was like,
oh, it's so great to be here with you, Rian Johnson.
I've got so many questions.
Is your Star Wars trilogy still going?
And he just turned a laptop around and it just, still on the website.
What do you reckon?
What do you reckon?
Would you be surprised though? What do you reckon? What do you reckon? Would you be surprised though?
What do you reckon, lady?
Would you be surprised that whether he steps away due to other commitments
or Lucasfilm move away from him, would you be surprised
if it just didn't happen though?
I would be surprised, no.
Because I certainly would not be surprised.
No, no.
Again, I would like to see it.
I think even people who don't like that film,
there are a lot of people who are still like,
I'd take a trilogy which is him with other characters.
Yes, for sure.
That he invents and does whatever with.
So that's where I am.
Yeah.
I don't know where you are.
Yeah, I think a lot of the sting would be taken off it if it's like,
it's a new part of the galaxy and it's new characters
and this has got nothing to do with the Skywalker family.
He's going to kill everybody in the Mandalorian.
That's right.
They're going to die being shot in the back while they're running away.
That's right.
I can't do the speaking of dark thing because this bit isn't dark,
but there's a last bit of Star Wars news.
Okay.
Because I know you love this.
The Kessel Run transmission has reported that Mina Musad,
who played Aladdin in Disney's Aladdin, he's going to be Ezra Bridger, or he's in The Running,
which I think is excellent casting.
Now, how credible is the Kessel Run?
They're pretty good from my understanding, yeah.
But I think it also could be one of those things where maybe his name's
in the mix and it doesn't happen or whatever,
but they're not one of the ones who just lie constantly,
if that's what you mean.
Yes.
Yeah.
So, yeah, there you go.
I think that's really good casting.
And I remember we spoke, it must have been last year,
where he hadn't really had an audition or a role since Aladdin.
So I thought he was really good in that movie,
which should have been way worse than I thought it was at least.
Yeah, the movie was both surprisingly entertaining.
So I'm glad he's doing more stuff.
Well, that's great, but I'm looking for confirmation
from the three-legged X-Wing, the other website that we trust.
Do you mean winged?
No.
Okay.
Because we'll get emails, but you want them, don't you?
Yeah, but also X-Wings do have three.
They do have the three wings.
But if one of them breaks off, that would be two-legged, wouldn't it?
That's why I'm confused about what you're doing.
There's a spare.
Oh, that's handy.
Just have four.
Doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter.
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Now, Mason, we brought some people in to talk about some video game news
and video game topics because we can't do it alone, quite frankly.
We're too old.
We don't play enough video games.
We're unqualified for most things, but in this arena,
we're especially unqualified.
So get some experts in.
So who have we got?
What's happened here?
What's going on? We're like, who likes we got? What's happened here? What's going on?
We just opened the doors and we're like, who likes video games?
Anyone in the neighbourhood?
Anyone?
Look, James from the great podcast Batch Bitch and from the YouTube channel that talks about
video games to some degree sometimes.
Yeah, occasionally.
It's Naomi Higgins.
Naomi Higgins is here.
Welcome, Naomi.
Thank you for having me.
I'm a gamer girl.
That's right.
I love the gamey game game.
I love the way you guys just derail Evan the entire time.
It's beautiful.
It's like the best thing in the world.
Watching him try to just carry on the show while I think a couple of weeks ago, yeah,
it was like me and Lena Moon just like throwing paper planes at each other while he tries
to talk about washing machines for two minutes.
It wasn't even about games at all, but that's the show.
Yeah. So I'm going to be really knowledgeable. Fantastic. tries to talk about washing machines for two minutes. It wasn't even about games at all, but that's the show, yeah.
So I'm going to be really knowledgeable.
Fantastic.
But also here, recurring guest, second time round,
Mark Bonanno from Aunty Donna.
Hello.
But you're both here also because you have a new television show
on ABC at the moment right now.
But if you're like, fuck television,
I don't want to watch it on a Wednesday night,
I don't want to wait for that, it's all available on Ivy right now. Is that the case? Is that true? Yes. I don't know where you're like, fuck television, I don't want to watch it on a Wednesday night. I don't want to wait for that.
It's all available on Ivy right now.
Is that the case?
Is that true?
Yes.
I don't know where you're getting your information.
No, yeah, that's true.
Yes.
I don't know.
We have to discuss how we're going to fuck with the hosts beforehand.
You should look in my eyes and you should know.
I came in with earnestness and you have not come in with that.
Yes, no, it is all on Ivy.
You can binge it now. Do the binge. But what if you're not in Australia? that. Yes, no, it is all on ivy. You can binge it now.
Do the binge.
But what if you're not in Australia?
Just give up, I guess, right? Yeah.
Nick, you idiot.
You wish.
You wish you could just throw in the towel and give up if you lived overseas.
I've come in here with earnestness.
You too.
You too.
Go on.
It's unavailable now overseas, but it will be on Netflix pretty soon.
Internationally.
There's no definitive date on that or you can't say yet.
We know when it is.
We know when it is, but we can't say.
But it's not too far away.
No, it's not that far away.
Awesome.
Or people could use a VPN and just download iView as well, right?
We made it to Pirate Bay, which is unbelievable.
Did you?
Don't tell them that. Well, I'm just putting it out there that it's on there. download iview as well right we made it we made it to pirate bay which is unbelievable yeah don't
tell don't tell them that well i'm just i'm just putting it out there that it's on there i think
that's really cool though because that means people are watching it yeah it's in the zeitgeist
yeah exactly hopefully it counts for viewership numbers it definitely doesn't coming to a season
but people should leeches people should tweet oh by the way what's it called what's it about it's
called why are you like this yeah it's about three people in their early 20s.
They're awful people and they just get up to stuff.
They never learn or grow and it's funny.
We hope.
No, it is.
It is funny, yeah.
I watched all six episodes.
I watched it on Thursday.
I was really happy that they were all available at once,
as I was telling you guys before.
ABC didn't make that kind of known that it was all there,
so it was a very pleasant surprise.
But maybe if people do watch it or even pirate it,
which they're not going to, they should tweet at the ABC, right,
to be like, hey, this show is great.
Absolutely, right in to the call ABC.
Yeah.
Call Ida Bartrow's and say, hey, I'm loving it.
I don't know what's wrong with me.
No, no, that's perfect.
So it's six episodes and three of you created this.
Is that right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes, us two.
And we're in a long-term committed relationship.
We should just – that's a content warning.
Yeah, let's put that right out there.
Love it.
And then also our friend Hum, Humira Maba, also created it with us.
I thought you were going to say also in a committed relationship.
Well, yeah, she is.
I do call her my wife.
We're wives.
But, yeah, it was the three of us who made it
and it was just a year of screaming at each other
and then a TV show came out.
I listened to the Will Anderson episode you did,
Willosophy, and the process of how you met
and how it all came together and how it was different
for you working with Naomi than it was working
with Aunty Donna and, yeah, it was volatile at times.
But I think it's all come together in a big way.
I know you mentioned like it's always sunny as like an inspiration
because nobody learns anything and a lot of it is, you know,
people trying to do the right thing but they end up, you know,
ruining lives around them, which I always enjoy.
Penny's heart is in the right place, your character.
And nothing else.
And the other character, Mia's heart, is not in the right place.
No.
And that's pretty much the difference between them.
I loved all the little cameos from like people from Melbourne comedy,
Australian comedy as well.
This is Jess Perkins.
I saw Jess Perkins, Matt Stewart in the first episode.
We do go on.
It was really awesome to see all these people pop up.
And also amazing that you managed to film it during COVID lockdown.
And I didn't notice until you're in an alleyway and I'm like,
there's fucking no one in that alley.
And then it just dawned on me that you would have had to run out
and do that, which was March, was it, where you picked things up again?
Yeah, well, we started filming in March, I think,
and then we got about three-fifths of the way through
and we got shut down by COVID.
And then we took like a four-month break and by the time we got back up, I think the day we started shooting was the day that they
announced stage four lockdown again in Melbourne.
Oh boy.
Well, it hadn't been, there hadn't been a stage four.
It had only been stage three up until that point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it was, but by that point, everyone was a little less scared.
They knew everything a little more.
So we were like, we keep going until they tell us to stop.
Because when we first shut down, it was like, knew anything it was everyone was just terrified and no one
knew any idea how to like the film industry was just like we can't it wasn't really mentioned at
all in any of the stuff was it like no does it come under media because we just kept recording
because we're technically media yeah it was they had to figure it all out and then like so we're constantly being updated
with like legislation and protocol and that kind of thing.
So you just went, we'll just keep going.
Yeah, and then, yeah, we were in the list.
It's essential work, obviously.
Yeah.
No, it is because people, you want to see stuff.
Like I'm glad stuff is still coming out.
It really surprised me that there's still new television movies.
The content ran out like midway through lockdown. I know. We is still coming out. It really surprised me that there's still new television movies. Imagine if content ran out midway through lockdown.
I know.
We ran out of TV.
I know.
And people put artists as the first non-essential worker.
And it's like the only reason you're able to be in lockdown
is because you can surround yourself with art to make yourself forget
about the horrible existence that you are in.
You know?
It's like artists are very important. Who's going to drown out your thoughts if we existence that you are in. Yeah. You know, it's like artists are very important.
Who's going to drown out your thoughts if we're not there?
Exactly.
Yeah.
Thank you for not working in, like, COVID into the show as well
because I'm watching Superstore in the new season
and everyone's wearing a mask and I'm like, I don't want to see this.
Like, I like it.
It's a good show.
Yeah.
We spoke about that.
We're like, if we ever get a season two, if a season two is a thing,
we're not addressing it because it's escapism.
It's who cares?
It happened.
No one wants to know.
Like apparently on the stand-up scene at the moment,
there's just like no COVID material.
Like no one's like doing any COVID material because everyone went
into COVID, had a horrible time.
It was like really sad, didn't want to create,
and now they're out and just trying to forget about it.
Yeah.
I hope there's no COVID sitcoms coming out.
I don't want to see it.
I don't want to know about them.
I mean, I've already seen COVID sitcoms.
Oh, really?
Well, there's Staged, which is the David Tennant.
Oh, isn't that good?
Yeah, it's good.
Oh, that's good to hear.
It's more like people indoors.
It's just the lives of some people indoors.
They don't really dwell on it.
Right.
Mythic Quest did one episode, which I thought over Zoom,
which was all right.
You know, that Apple original.
Oh, right.
Yeah, I haven't seen it.
But it's got Mac from Sunny.
Yeah, and Charlotte Nickdow.
Yes.
Wonderful Australian talent.
Who lives there maybe?
Does she live in the US?
I don't know why I'm asking you guys.
Do you know her?
Yeah, I do know her, but I can check her Instagram
to see where she's living right now.
You did a dance class with her, didn't you?
I did do a heels dance class with Charlotte Big Down in LA.
What's a heels dance class?
You wear heels and you stomp around.
You smash them together.
And it's sexy and I look so stupid.
I thought it was my brain went to Heelys.
No, those wheels on the bottom of shoes. Oh, yeah, don't worry about it. My brain went to Heelys. No, those wheels on the bottom of shoes.
Oh, yeah, don't worry about it.
My brain went to Heelsville, like Heelsville Sanctuary.
I was like, oh, okay.
You dance for the kangaroos.
Yeah, you do.
It was very LA and very weird, but she's a very nice, funny person.
Terrific.
Good stuff.
Anyway, so it's a great show.
It's called Why You Like This.
It does social issues and cancel culture farming.
Touches on a bunch of stuff.
The big three. Yeah, that's right. But it's
really hilarious and I'm glad it's coming to Netflix so more
people can see it. It kind of reminds me
a bit like, yeah, it's always sunny
and please like me. Meaner than please
like me though, which I appreciate.
Yeah, please like me is very sweet. It's very sweet.
It's too saccharine. We are not sweet.
No, we are not sweet. Not at all.
So yeah, check it out. Thank you. That's really nice of you to say.
No, it's terrific.
And, again, we're really happy that you guys could come on and do this
to talk about Mortal Kombat, the trailer for Mortal Kombat.
Yes.
This guy's happy.
Could this be it?
Could this be the good one?
The good video game movie?
The good.
Oh, yeah.
Do you guys, what are your thoughts on video game movies in general?
Because you're both big gamer girls, so what are you?
Yeah, we're two gamer girls.
Two gamer girls in a pod.
I can't.
Have I seen a video game movie?
Probably not really.
Detective Pikachu?
Yeah, yeah.
Does that count?
I mean.
There is a Detective Pikachu game, so I think so, yeah.
Yeah, I guess so.
Yeah, that is. There's also a Desperate Housewives game. so, yeah. Yeah, I guess so. It was Japan only or something.
There's also a Desperate Housewives game.
I don't think that makes that an adaptation.
Detective Pikachu is the best.
I love that movie.
Oh, there you go.
The Bulbasaurs, are you kidding me?
Is that the one asleep in the street?
I guess it's one of the –
The ones in the water.
Oh, okay.
They're so cute.
It's funny because it is absolutely a game and it's totally based on,
because it was a video game before it was an anime series, right, Pokemon.
Probably, yes.
But I guess it was so good or we thought it was so good
that I'd just forgotten that it was a video game movie.
It's such a big franchise and they have TV shows and movies already and stuff.
Yeah, but you also often associate terrible movies.
Like there's not a lot of incredible ones.
What's that Egypt one that's apparently bad?
Oh, The Prince of Persia with Jake Gyllenhaal,
famous Middle Eastern actor Jake Gyllenhaal.
Yeah.
I maintain that like that movie is just like middle of the road fine.
Like it's not great.
Yeah, right.
It's like a The Mummy sequel.
Yes, it's exactly it. Yeah. And I feel like the latest Tomb Raider was like that. It's like this is fine. Like it's not great. It's like a The Mummy sequel. Yes, it's exactly it.
And I feel like the latest Tomb Raider was like that.
It's like, this is fine.
I didn't like that it went...
They just did the end of Uncharted 1 and they
just put it into the Tomb Raider. I had high
hopes for that movie and
it was like, yeah, I don't know. I thought it was
fine and then the ending, I was like, ugh.
It might be my favourite though of all
the video game movies.
Yeah, that's fair.
Which says nothing at all.
A lot of people love the first Mortal Kombat movie, though,
but we recently watched it to do a video on it.
It doesn't hold up.
It's not very.
Well, it's still got a certain charm to it, but if you're like,
well, this is a video game about people kicking each other's heads off
and being good at martial arts, there's none of that in this.
It's just it's before they knew being good at martial arts. There's none of that in this. It's just it's before they could,
it's before they knew how to film martial arts on screen.
So it's just kind of.
I haven't seen it since I was a kid.
All I remember is like liking the first one and then couldn't,
could not fathom how bad the sequel was.
Like just from the word go,
the sequel is like the worst thing I've ever seen.
So I still have fond memories of it.
Yeah, right.
But that's interesting to hear.
But like it's got all the characters and whatever and, you know.
That's all the poster.
That's right.
It's got all the characters and whatever.
Which is what you want.
The only thing I've heard about the new Mortal Kombat movie is because I'm terminally online,
which is also reflected in the TV show we made.
But the only thing I heard about the Mortal Kombat movie was,
I don't know if you guys saw the Jezebel article.
No, I didn't see this one.
Oh, that Chun-Li is not in it.
Yes.
Oh, right.
It's called Who Forgot to Invite Chun-Li.
She's from Sh-Tree?
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah, right.
She is, and this is how they corrected it.
Update.
Jezebel has discovered the answer to our question about Chun-Li's erasure,
and it is that Chun-Li is not part of the Mortal Kombat universe.
Wow.
Wow.
No apology, just wow.
I thought that was bait.
I also thought it was bait, yeah.
It might have been bait.
I mean, I feel gaslit by that rant.
They just went, oh, that's funny.
Who knew? No way for us to know, I guess gaslit by that rant. They just went, oh, that's funny. Who knew?
No way for us to know, I guess.
Oh, well.
I didn't see that.
That's very funny.
Look, I thought there was some interesting things about it.
I had just watched before it had come out, literally the day before,
the Netflix anime Mortal Kombat movie.
Yeah, right.
The new Scorpion one?
Yeah, the Scorpion one.
And then I watched the trailer and I'm like,
this looks like the same movie potentially.
Like it had a lot of the same, I don't know if you guys have seen it.
I haven't seen it, no.
But it seemed very similar in the sense of what the plot was going to be.
And I was like, that's weird and interesting.
Fighting tournament.
Yeah, yeah.
And then like the same group of good guys kind of.
I don't think Kano, I couldn't tell if Kano was a good guy or a bad guy in this one.
But it seemed like a very similar vibe with the like Sub-Zero and Scorpion rivalry and
stuff.
But as I said to you guys before, that moment where Sub-Zero freezes the blood and then
uses it as a knife.
I was like, all right, I'll definitely give this a watch.
At the very least it looks exactly like Mortal Kombat, you know?
Yes, absolutely.
Like love it or hate it, it just looks like that.
Also, can't you technically not kill someone with an icicle?
I read that somewhere.
Maybe it was on Mythbusters.
You can't?
Because it doesn't have the something about it.
Oh, really?
I'll let the magic ninja know that you can't.
Yeah, I don't know about magic icicles.
Did they check magic icicles?
I don't know if they did.
I'm going to have to check that episode.
It's on my TiVo, so yeah.
But while you guys are here, we put the call out on Twitter,
that's how you pronounce it,
of how people would adapt certain video game franchises.
Oh, yes.
I'm big on this.
We've had a pretty bad run.
I watched Monster Hunter, like, just today, the new one.
Oh, I haven't seen that.
And it's fine.
It's like, it's all right, okay.
And, you know, do you guys see Sonic?
No, I missed Sonic.
That looks too upsetting.
Like, viscerally?
Like, fixed it.
She's only seen the first trailer.
First I was upset about Creepy Sonic and then I was upset about Crunch Time
and I said, I'm not watching this.
No, fair enough.
Because, yeah, a lot of people had to go back to work to fix that abomination.
What a great marketing move, though.
Oh, yeah.
Like, I wonder if it was a new Coke.
I wonder if they new-coked us.
Because what a brilliant way to get people talking about your movie.
Like really smart.
I don't think that's what happened.
I don't think that's what happened.
No, I think it was an accident.
But they should start doing stuff like that.
It's really clever.
Give Goro three arms and then be like, oh, wait a minute.
But fans deserve four arms on this fellow.
So going back to it.
I took my son to it who was four at the time.
To Mortal Kombat.
No, sorry.
To Sonic.
And it's like a pretty decent, okay kids movie.
Yeah.
Like they do a little road trip and there's Jim Carrey's doing whatever.
A nightmare to adapt.
I would hate to be the person to go turn the running game.
Yeah.
Turn the running game into. Yeah, nothing happens in that.
He just runs around.
He just runs and then there's, I think there's a very loose storyline.
I'm not a huge fan of the series.
He needs the coins.
Yeah.
But he's an interdimensional being or he's like an alien in this movie.
Like they give it.
I hate the bring the thing to the real world because then you don't have to do
like a whole lot of world building.
It's just like, is it New York?
What's he going to do in New York?
I hate that.
But I think it's whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
The Witcher.
People liked The Witcher.
I watched some or all of The Witcher.
I can't remember.
I watched some.
I didn't watch any of it.
Yeah.
I made Mark turn it off a lot of times.
I was hoping it would be, it would scratch that Game of Thrones itch that I had
and it just didn't quite do it for me.
But it looked cool.
People like that, right?
People really liked it.
But that's also novels.
Yeah, so I did put brackets based on books.
So inequality is inherently coming from the novels.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It changes things a little bit.
You guys should joust with icicles or something.
It's tension.
Well, I mean, I want to hear what other people have to say,
but I've got a big one for me.
I would love to hear it.
Well, one that has never been adapted well, in fact,
has always been adapted terribly.
It's a very difficult one to adapt but is Hitman, right?
I was just thinking about that all the way over.
Yeah.
I love the Hitman franchise, like very much obsessed with it.
I've been playing it since the first one came out.
Yeah, right.
Wait, is that movies?
Yeah, there's two of them.
They did one.
It was terrible.
Is that movies?
They did one that was terrible.
The first one.
The first one's just called Hitman.
And the second one's called Hitman Agent 47.
The second one was a reboot.
Like they made one.
It was terrible.
Timothy Olfant, though, which is like not a good choice,
even though he's great.
Because he's all hair, that dude.
I just want to see his hair.
Yeah, yeah.
You know?
And you've got to get rid of it.
You're playing the hitman.
Yeah.
But just both awful, awful.
And adapted the wrong things, I think.
Or like just approached it from the wrong angle.
Just kept trying to make it like an action movie.
And it's like what makes those games so much fun is how like cold
and nothing he is.
Yeah.
But there's just not a lot of like what you do in the game,
which is there's a target that he has to kill.
At least do an opening scene.
Yeah.
Like a James Bond cold open kind of thing.
Yes, do a cold open that is at least like, hey,
this is a hitman movie about that guy who's cold and calculating
and kills people.
And then we'll try and figure out a story after that.
He doesn't need to learn to love, which I think they do.
No, he doesn't.
Make him a cold bastard through the whole thing.
Just an opening montage of him breaking people's necks
and chucking them in like laundry baskets.
Yeah, yeah.
Putting banana peels on the ground for people to slip over.
I would do a Wolverine in X-Men 2 storyline-ish about like he's
a cold calculated hitman and then he sort of starts to discover
about why, how he's become that.
But he doesn't learn anything or he doesn't change.
He's just on that.
Because he's a clone maybe?
Yeah, something like that.
What kind of story is that?
Maybe some video game shouldn't be movies.
Maybe.
Because Hitman has no personality.
What's fun about it is putting a banana peel on the ground
and snapping a maid's neck.
Yes, but no personality is also an interesting writing challenge
to build a movie around, like just a cold,
but you'd have to make it a bit funny.
That's the other thing.
We're getting an insight into their writing process.
I know it is.
It's right here.
I've got lots of thoughts.
I would love to
try and adapt it. One of them's a big yes person
and one's a big no person.
Who is it though? I did hear
that when you were talking about you'd hand in a script
for your show and you guys were just like,
we don't like this. And you were like, oh.
They would hate. I said, I got
to the point. Well, I got to the end of the process.
I got to the end of the writing process and I went,
if we ever work again, if we ever work together again,
the word hate is banned from the writer's room because it's just,
I don't work that way.
And it's fine.
I really appreciate the directness, honestly,
because it, like, cancels out a lot of the fucking.
Yeah.
You don't waste so much time.
You don't waste time.
Pussyfooting around.
Absolutely.
So this isn't funny.
It's also so brutal when someone's put in hours of their heart and soul
into something and then someone goes, hate it.
Oh, no.
Well, unfortunately, Mark, that's what I'm doing to your Hitman movie, okay?
Well, we'll see.
I'm going to write a script just to upset you now.
Would you do a series?
Oh, that could be interesting.
And then you could do different little adventures.
A series would be very interesting.
That's probably a better way to do it.
Yeah.
And he could meet a different, I don't know,
I guess he could meet a new like a point of view character every week
to compensate for his lack of personality.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, yeah.
You fill it with other people.
Is that what happens on Doctor Who?
Yes, yes.
Pretty much.
Every week he meets like a British fop and they do a little adventure
and they've got to get a hot air balloon started or whatever the fuck.
I've stopped watching Doctor Who.
But, yeah, that sounds great.
And do you remember at the end of the last Hitman movie he opens a door
and then like 40 Hitmen pour out who are exact copies of him
and it's like here we go again.
Is that really how that ends?
That's how it ends, yeah.
Oh, my God.
It's awful.
How would you do something?
You guys probably heard this about the Zelda and Mario thing that they would,
no, sorry, the Zelda and Star Fox thing they were doing on Netflix
that got cancelled.
No, what?
Oh, I never heard about this.
So, you know, Adam Conover who does Adam Ruins Everything?
No, I don't know.
He's from College Humour.
Yes.
Thank you.
He was apparently working on it for Netflix and it leaked
and then so Nintendo shut it down.
They just went, well, you don't get this because.
Because it leaked?
Yeah.
Oh, that's so depressing.
That's so sad.
Yeah.
So it was going to be a live action Zelda Netflix series
and a fantastic Mr Fox inspired Star Fox series.
You know, like that stop motion.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that would have been interesting.
Yeah, that would have been fascinating.
Oh, my God.
Imagine trying to please Zelda fans.
Imagine having to, like, give Link an actual personality.
Well, have you ever seen the cartoon?
Huh?
Have you ever seen the cartoon?
No, I've never seen the cartoon.
Oh, man.
Well, excuse me, princess.
Is that what he sounds like?
That's his catchphrase.
No.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's really good.
It's not.
It's the worst.
It's awful.
It's awful.
It's quite tragic.
Yeah, because they've done it before.
Like, Nintendo have turned their properties.
There was a Mario TV series.
There was, yeah.
And there was a Donkey Kong 3D animated series.
Oh, yeah, that's funny.
It's phenomenal.
It's really out there.
Weird.
And super weird and inappropriate at times.
Is it?
So it's like late 90s CGI?
It's bad CGI, yeah, bad TV CGI.
He's got his Donkey Kong girlfriend is there.
Dixie Kong?
Trixie Kong.
Yeah, and there's like.
No, it's Trixie Kong in this one.
Check out some footage of it.
It's weird, man.
It's great.
Yeah.
How do you adapt any of this stuff, though, like Kirby and any of the kind of,
do you just do a kid's show?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I guess it's like you need to.
You almost need to like have your story and know what you want to say
and know what your themes are.
And then the characters kind of just have to go on top of that.
Yeah.
Because there's not a lot, like especially in Zelda and in Mario,
it's like the stories are save the princess.
And you need to fill everything else in because you can't just have them go
and do MacGuffins every episode or have the whole movie be that kind of thing.
It's a strange, you know, it's different when you're adapting something
like Uncharted and we'll see, you know, and The Last of Us,
which has such a strong narrative.
That would be more about filling in, you know, potentially.
Those things it's like.
Because those characters are great.
They're so well written.
Yeah.
And easy to write because you know how to like,
you know who they are already.
Yeah, yeah.
How would you write anything?
Link doesn't have a personality.
Mario doesn't really have a personality beyond catchphrases
and an aesthetic.
And a strong work ethic.
And a very strong work ethic.
He'll stick his hand in the toilet, isn't he?
The people who did Minions are doing a Mario animated movie.
It's coming out in like two years.
Really?
I think they're building to a Smash Brothers universe, I suspect.
I don't know that for a fact.
But I think that's what I would do.
What's the plot of a Smash Brothers movie, though?
They fight.
It doesn't matter.
What's the plot of anything?
You get the Nintendo Wii Fit girl.
She'd be there.
Just do it like Injustice.
Mario kills Wario and then they split.
You go from there.
You go from there.
But, yeah, so I don't know.
I think those things are kind of tricky.
Some people wrote in about Animal Crossing and a few,
like I got one that's from Folded Contact Lens.
It was like a hyper-realistic gritty reboot of Animal Crossing. Do you guys play Animal Crossing and a few, like I got one that's from Folded Contact Lens. It was like a hyper-realistic gritty reboot of Animal Crossing.
Do you guys play Animal Crossing?
Hell, yeah.
It's like fishing and collecting things.
I think that would be amazing.
I want to write that now.
And debt.
Crushing debts.
They accidentally kill Cranston.
So you'd rather see like a twist on it than like just do a nice movie
where everybody has to get fish.
Well, that's already what Animal Crossing is.
You can play it for a certain amount of time,
but after a while you're just doing the same shit every day.
There's no story there.
And then one day your turnips go bad and you say, I quit.
I'm not doing this anymore.
You could do the story of K.K. Slider, the dog musician,
like in the style of Inside Llewyn Davis, just like a grim story about a dog.
A star is born.
Yeah.
K.K. Slider.
But it's a similar, it's like just, I mean,
technically you could write any movie and go,
this is an adaptation of The Sims.
Like you can't like, because when like nothing happens,
you're just doing things.
And there's absolutely no story.
And the only, the main character is you like,
you know,
like when you're doing Zelda,
you're playing as link,
but when you're doing animal crossing,
it's,
it's Mark.
I'm Mark in that world.
Like no one wants to see.
And your island is a piece of shit.
Is it?
Well,
I mean,
my,
I just built my island to be like inescapable.
People would come in and then they'd...
Now that's a movie.
They couldn't leave.
There was, like, a row of trees and that would go for a long time
and it would lead to an opening.
And in the opening there was a painting that just said,
Get Out, written in blood.
It was actually an adaptation of Shutter Island.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
And you couldn't leave.
You couldn't get out.
You couldn't explore the island.
It was Mark was trapped the whole time.
I just got very frustrated
with the game.
So that's what I spend my time doing. That's terrific.
But like games that are
nothing essentially. They have no story.
So leave luck to Kevin
says Tetris in the style of Queen's Gambit.
Which I think is just because of the Russian thing
I assume. Right, right, right.
They are doing Tetris, aren't they?
We've talked about it and we've been reluctant to give any ideas.
Who's doing Tetris?
Paramount maybe?
Hollywood.
Holly weird.
That's right.
It would be interesting as like the story of Tetris.
I want the blocks to be characters.
I just want the blocks to be characters talking to each other.
You want the movie Pixels. That's what you want, isn study characters talking to each other. You want the movie pixels.
That's what you want, isn't it?
That's wild.
I wonder if it's going to be like an e-sports story or something.
Yeah, right.
Because that's one thing that hasn't really been done.
Yeah.
You know, which is interesting.
So you want Ninja and you want another popular.
No.
No one said that.
No.
That's the only e-sports.
If he even does that anymore.
I don't know.
I think he just dies in there.
He doesn't have to do anything.
He made so much money in the mixer thing.
Like if he doesn't retire, he's a fool in my opinion.
You've made it.
You've done.
You've got your fortune.
Why stream every day for more money?
You guys wouldn't stop though because that's his art.
You know, isn't he passionate about gaming when someone's like,
don't take it so seriously?
And he was like, I'm the Michael Jordan of whatever.
Didn't he have that?
I mean, I guess.
But, like, I don't know.
Streaming is a very difficult thing to do full time.
We don't do it full time.
It terrifies me.
Yeah.
And, like, if that was me and I made my fortune, I would.
And you said a slur.
Well, I mean.
Well, that's the big finish, obviously.
Otherwise people are going to forget you.
Just a streamer who didn't.
You guys, did you play any of those like point and clink,
Monty, Monty, Monkey Island style.
I need more water.
I'm really dehydrated.
Monkey Island.
I'll take over.
Guys, have you ever played one of those point and clink Monty Island games?
I love point and clink Monty Island.
Monty Island.
I haven't played Monkey Island.
I've been told that I should play Monkey Island.
So do you want to describe it in any more detail?
Because that's your deal, isn't it, Mason?
You love Monkey Island.
So you're a little lad named Guybrush Threepwood and you want to be a pirate.
Go to the land of Melee Island and you do a lot of clicking.
Any pointing?
Yeah, a lot of pointing.
The one that I played and loved, it was point and click,
but it was more of an RPG.
I don't know.
I think it was just made at a time where maybe they couldn't do this style
of game with moving with the keyboard.
I don't know.
That's not necessarily true.
I don't know why I said that.
I think they just chose this style.
I can't wait to watch how this is.
Vampire the Masquerade Redemption.
Yeah, okay, right.
Right, one of my favourite games of all time.
Very dated now.
But it's this great story.
It starts in like pagan times, right, about this guy who's like a warrior
for God, gets bitten by a vampire, turns into a vampire, right?
That's what happens.
Vampires.
Sorry, spoilers.
That's what happens when you get bit by a vampire.
But then this great thing happens is you're going about the game
and you're building your team and you're like, you know,
getting your armour and going on all these quests to do all these things
and then halfway through the game, like, you're fighting this big boss,
the cave collapses on you, you wake up, you're in the year 2000
and you're in London, right?
And so then you have to play the second half of the game.
This came out in, like, 99, 2000, right?
But then so then rather than, like, shields and swords,
now you're using, like, guns and grenades and stuff,
but it's the same type of point and click.
Right.
And the story was always, that's what always enamoured me to that
when I was younger.
I thought that was so cool.
It's like a world that you can.
Yeah, totally.
And I just think that like that's never really been done before.
Like just that's a cool story.
That could make a cool movie or a cool TV series in particular.
There was a TV series.
No.
Yeah, it was called Kindred, The Embraced. It was in the 90s. It TV series. No. Yeah, it was called Kindred the Embraced.
It was in the 90s.
It was bad.
Really?
Yeah.
It was bad.
Everything that you say, you're like, it was this.
It was bad.
Based on the Masquerade series.
I know a lot of things.
I just don't know a lot of good things.
All that's in here is bad things.
I just realised I have played a point and click game.
What was it?
Let's Just Suit Larry.
Oh, of course.
Oh, somebody wrote in with that.
Yeah, I played that recently, unfortunately.
Yeah, there's that.
I think I saw that stream.
Yeah, I was streaming it.
It was the one on the boat.
Yes, yes, yes.
Love for sale.
Surely you get Rob Schneider to play Leisure Shoot.
Cahill said Will Arnett.
Will Arnett?
Oh, yeah.
That's a sense.
He's too funny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's very handsome.
Legend of Suit Larry is like a short sort of like weaselly guy.
Yeah.
And he's like nasally.
Hollywood's coming to knock him.
Yeah, and his name's Nick Mason or something.
How did that go?
Play through those again because they're pretty awful.
Look, on Twitch you cannot show nudity
and I accidentally broke that a lot of times.
I never thought there was.
Is there actual nudity in those?
Yeah, yeah, there is.
I mean, you have to like search for it.
They're like, hey, Naomi, don't type this word here.
And I was like, why?
And then, yeah, I was like, ah!
Trying to hide my screen.
But the cartoon nudity counts.
I think it does.
Yeah, right.
Is that the thing about feet, True?
You can't show feet?
You can't show feet in a sexual way.
But you can just have your feet up on the desk.
So I used to have a thing, a running joke,
which was foot cam non-sexual where I would cut to a camera
that was underneath my desk because I showed my feet once on stream
and everyone was like, TOS, TOS, you can't do this.
Terms of service.
I was like, no, no, no, I'm presenting them in a non-sexual way.
If you're getting a stiffy, that's on you.
Yeah, yeah.
That's not for me.
Yeah, you can't control the people's stiffy.
And that was very inconvenient for me when I was doing a podcast on Zoom
and there were four other people there, four other guys waiting for me to join.
I clicked join and the camera that was pointed at my feet was the one
that came up and I went, oh, shit, and had to hang up and come back
with a different camera.
I make no apologies for that.
That's a fantastic thing that happened.
You hate Hades, right?
You're the one person in the world who hates Hades.
Is that correct?
Don't tell.
Sorry.
People listen to this podcast.
Don't tell them that.
Some people do.
Yes.
We recently reviewed it on an episode of Gamey Gamey Game.
Sorry, I didn't mean to throw you under the bus there.
Went off hard on Hades.
I did not like it at all.
It made me so mad.
I didn't play it because the way you described the characters.
I talked you off it?
Yeah, because they're all like Nathan Drake in it and they're all sassy.
They are like Nathan Drake.
I'm like, I fucking hate that.
Nathan Drake is so annoying.
When Mark was playing the Uncharted games, I was like, God, he's annoying.
He's not funny.
He thinks he's funny and it's the same with Hades.
He just walks into a room with a boss and he's like,
well, this is awkward.
I'm like, who wrote this?
Someone who's keenly connected to the game of mine, though,
because that's what gamers want to be.
They want to be, this is awkward.
They want to be a nice, suave.
I'm just a wry, white British man and I'm here to be nonchalant
but fuck up this girl called Meg who's standing in front of me.
Turn me around on it again.
This sounds amazing.
I've got a few people like Jay Rittenhead said it'd be great
to do something with like the gods of Olympus.
I guess you could do that with like God of War or whatever as well.
Probably not the early ones because it's just him like killing his family
and then killing everyone else.
Yeah.
But like the new one.
That sounds good.
Yeah, the new one's got a decent story.
Yeah.
It would make an interesting series.
Surely those are the easiest ones, ones that actually have a story
that is about the characters or there's actually something there
to grip onto.
Yeah, absolutely.
Like the last of us.
It's not a challenge.
Something with no story, no characters.
You don't adapt something to do work.
Yeah.
Otherwise you just come up with your own ideas.
Yeah, The Last of Us is going to be fascinating
because from what I hear is that they are like.
It's all of it, isn't it?
Yeah, and they're doing more.
It's about taking exactly what's there,
but because there's more air time
than there is story time in the game,
they're just going to bolster it. Maybe a few more characters,
some beelines, which I'm
here for. I'd love
a good The Walking Dead, because I don't think
The Walking Dead has been good for
10 years. Yeah, right. So just something
like that. Yeah.
But yeah, like you mentioned,
the idea of just seeing it again,
it's like I did, I played them and it was good.
I liked it but I didn't want to see it again.
But it's not for you.
I guess it isn't.
It's for you who hasn't played the games.
I played some of the first ones.
You played some of the games.
I played some of the first one but I'm just like this is.
That's grim.
It's grim, yeah.
It's spooky.
I couldn't play it the first time as well.
I was like this is too hard.
But then you just put it on beginner, beginner, beginner. Oh. Yeah, yeah. It's spooky. I couldn't play it the first time as well. I was like, this is too hard. But then you just put it on beginner, beginner, beginner.
Oh.
Yeah, yeah.
Extra simple mode.
And because I would say, like, the second one is, in my opinion,
the best game I've ever played.
Really?
Like, the mechanics and the story, I absolutely adore it.
But they double down.
Social justice warrior over here.
Look at this one.
They double down on the grim.
So if you thought the first one was grim, do not play the second one.
It's not even that. It's more
like, there's no one to fix that wallpaper.
This room is so...
The couch has
got holes in it, but there's no couch guy.
What? What are you
talking about? Society's disintegrated.
What are you saying?
You play a game and you're like,
no one's fixing the couch, so I'm out.
Aesthetic is important.
Like the game Control, it's like all aesthetic.
I love the game Control.
That would make a good movie just because of the art direction.
And the note reading.
But I feel like it would get lost in that.
I feel like that's what would be its downfall,
is that they'd make it look so good.
That's what they'd put all the money towards.
Yeah, I mean, I don't cow sit there and watch it.
Fair enough. I should finish that game. You should. That's what I always do, though, because I'd put all the money towards. Yeah, I mean, I don't cow sit there and watch it. Fair enough.
I should finish that game.
You should.
That's what I always do, though, because I'm old and I have kids.
I play a game for an hour and then I just never pick it up again.
I've just started doing that.
That's just become a part of my life.
It's a new phase.
Yeah.
You're ready for fatherhood.
Yeah.
I got right to the end of Doom Eternal and then I just stopped.
I did that with the first Doom, yeah.
Yeah.
But apparently the first one's not as good. I didn't play the first Doom. Yeah. But apparently the first one's not as good.
I didn't play the first one.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
But just a bug happened in Doom where, like,
I couldn't get past this certain point and then it just,
and now I just can't, I have to, like, go all the way back.
And I was like, ah.
Nah.
Nah.
Not worth it.
I felt like with that game where you'd go into a room
and then all the doors would close and you'd have to kill, like, 50 things. Yeah. And then you go into the next room and all the doors would close, then you'd have to kill like 50 things.
Yeah.
And then you go into the next room and all the doors would close.
And I'm like, is this the whole game?
And it is.
Yeah.
And then the second one is that, but in between the two rooms
there's some platforming.
Okay, right.
Well, you've got a grappling hook or whatever.
Right, yeah, but it's like it's one of the best shooters
I've ever played in my life.
Restarting the encounter was too much of a psychological mind fuck to want to jump out.
I'll do it eventually.
I'll do it eventually.
You better.
We're all going to be really mad at you.
Fair enough.
We're going to do a special segment every week
because Mark finished his eternity.
We're going to call you up.
I'll do a check-in.
You started that, didn't you, and you were like,
mechanically this is like beyond.
It's like the second Doom is beyond me in terms of like
there's too many mechanics.
There's too many like, okay, if you want armor,
you've got to shoot a guy with a flamethrower.
And if you want to get your ammo back,
you've got to kill him with a chainsaw.
And there's platforming and then there's,
and I'm just like this is for people who are good at the first one
and I'm barely scraping through the first one.
You've defeated me.
I have a question and I want you to be honest with me.
Okay.
Are you a fake gamer?
Yes.
Yes.
I didn't know.
I didn't know.
That's okay.
I just prefer to know these things.
That's fair enough.
That's why Evan won't have you back.
That's right.
Just playing for clout.
I got one here from The Real Zoob. She's over at Comic Pop. They's right. Just playing for cloud. I'm just playing.
I got one here from The Real Zoob.
She's over at Comic Pop.
They're great.
She said Silent Hill done as a Showtime series with David Lynch.
Oh.
There's an okay Silent Hill movie, one of them, one without Kit Harington.
There's a Kit Harington Silent Hill movie? It might be called Silent Hills.
Wow.
Like 2016 maybe.
Let me check that.
I'm getting it confused with The Hills Have Eyes.
Ah.
Both hills.
That is so true.
But the hills can't talk in one of them and the other one they're looking at you.
So it's a little bit different.
Completely different hills.
Sorry, it was called Silent Hill Revelation with Kit Harington, I think.
Oh, that is a different Silent Hill movie.
I don't know.
But yes.
I don't know what I'm doing.
It's spooky.
It's spooky, yeah.
I like spooky movies.
I'm amazed at how many games have been turned into movies
that I just haven't heard about.
Yeah, yeah.
I had no idea there was Silent Hill.
Mostly crap.
There was a new Doom movie like last year.
Oh, yeah, I watched it, the Netflix one.
How was it?
Really good?
Oh, it's unwatchable.
Did they do the first person?
I didn't get through it.
I think I got three quarters of the way through it.
That was at a time when I was in LA and just alone.
Yeah.
I was very lonely.
What was Broden doing?
What?
He was in the other house.
Oh, okay.
Sitting in his own room feeling lonely.
Because I was living in a house with Zach and then Zach had left early
and so it was just me staying in this apartment off Hollywood Boulevard
for like maybe a month.
Oh, my God.
I was in LA for a week once by myself.
It was really sad.
Yeah, it's hard.
I was working, thankfully.
Okay.
Yeah.
But I watched Doom.
You came back different, James.
I definitely did.
I can't remember.
It's got some. I think it's got James. I definitely did. I can't remember. It's got some.
I think it's got some.
But it's just super, it's super like C grade.
It's super C grade.
I thought it would be, you know, like a bit more of,
because the first one had The Rock in it.
But he's not The Rock.
No.
Yeah.
He's Little Rock.
Yeah, he's Little Wrestler Rock.
And they go first person.
I never saw that one, but this one was like, I appreciate you, Naomi.
Thank you.
Mark didn't laugh.
The pebble.
Little rock.
Yeah, that's the joke we use.
That's your joke, isn't it?
That's the joke we use to pitch Broden as a character
when we were pitching the Netflix series.
I would say that.
Really?
I've got that on tape.
I've got that on my YouTube channel.
I said that to Amazon.
I said that to Apple.
And I said that to Netflix.
I went, so Broden thinks he's the rock.
Actually, he's the pebble.
Oh, my God.
And then our producer would laugh more every time we pitched it.
Tell me that story.
I'm Amy Schumer.
I'm done.
Joke thief.
Cancel Naomi.
We could do a few more if you guys have time.
I would love to.
Or you can leave again whenever you want.
You can leave.
Do you do this with everybody?
Everybody.
I insist they leave.
You can leave at any point.
You don't have to be here.
We have self-esteem issues.
That's the thing.
We're like, why would anybody want to do this?
Yeah.
There is part of me that is like that.
Like I make people drive out and I'm like, I'm sorry you have to sit here.
And I just like, just list things and you have to,
I feel bad doing it to you every week as well.
Not that bad. We're having
a great time. I want you to know
we're having a great time. I'm really happy
to hear it. You gave us kombucha
on the way in. And you get kombucha
on the way out. That's right. You're going to drink a whole other one
on the way out. Alright, that's
you pushing it. That's a lot of good
gut bacteria. It certainly is. Probably
too much. Y7
said, I would love to see a Red Dead Redemption series,
maybe three seasons each season, follows a different character,
Arthur John Jack.
Such variety.
A realistic sad, sadder times of fun Western.
I didn't finish the second game because it was a lot of.
Oh, me neither.
You're on a horse with somebody and you're like,
he's chatting to you about his farm that he used to have.
And I'm like, I don't give a fuck.
And the story is so long.
Every time I would get on to play that game,
I would say to myself, I am doing the story.
Get on there and I'm going to do the story.
And then I would go into a saloon, I would play poker,
I would lose and then I would kill everybody.
And it just became this like I had to stop myself because I was like,
I'm getting mad at losing poker.
Yeah, he was genuinely mad.
I feel like people are going to be like, you know, he lost
and he was like, ha-ha, whatever, and, like, shoot people.
He was genuinely like, no, this guy stiffed me.
And I'm like, it's not a guy, it's a computer.
They don't let you.
It's clearly like the algorithm is rigged against you.
You're making you do it.
Yeah.
And this guy is looking at me weird and I don't like him.
I just could never finish this story because there's just too much of it.
It's a lot.
Yeah.
And it's just like as a show also, like it's just a Western, right?
It's like Deadwood.
That's very true.
That's a very good point.
What's video gamey about it?
I mean, you know, I don't know.
You like it.
There's a controller.
Yep.
Okay, go on.
There's a main menu.
Oh, so the movie cuts to a main menu every once in a while.
And there's a mini-map, yeah.
At the end of every episode it saves and at the start of every episode it loads,
which is great, yeah.
And the main character of the show is constantly, like,
looking in the bottom left-hand corner at the mini-map.
Only they can see.
And occasionally they just pause and they look up
and they're just, you know, chewing their chewing tobacco
to regain their skills.
It's too much micromanagement in that game as well.
Different guns and hats and it's too much.
So that's my favourite part.
I know, that's what you loved about it.
I just hunted exotic animals and made fancy pants out of them.
Very good.
I loved doing that.
There's just an episode where the guy just keeps putting on different
outfits and he's like, nah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is he out into the wilderness to do more hunting or has he already done that
so it's just the pants part?
That's a separate episode.
Well, that's how you get the women watching.
Fashion episode.
Pelt, yes.
Rare pelt.
Here's a question, Naomi. Is that wardrobe? That's wardrobe from the show. Yes. Rare pelt. Here's a question, Naomi.
Is that wardrobe?
That's wardrobe from the show.
Yes.
Is that your own jacket or did you steal it from ABC Wardrobe?
I stole it.
Don't tell anyone.
No, they let me.
My pants also.
Basically, I have a brand new wardrobe from the show.
I'm keeping it in case we need it again.
Yes.
Good, good.
She certainly will.
I saw a tweet from Marty who manages one of the admins
in the Great Mates group.
She was loving all the outfits in that show.
She was like, I don't know if you saw that.
She was like, incredible.
Loved it.
That's so nice.
It's directed by Adam Murfett and Jesse Oldfield, another couple.
Oh, hello.
Another couple.
Yeah, another couple.
There's quite a few couples in this show.
The producer and the DOP are a couple as well.
What's going on?
Yeah, just a lot of them.
I'm having a good time, you know.
We're getting little babies coming along and stuff.
And we're making TV.
It's cool.
It's hip.
But they're really like they're super fashionable and like really they're,
I mean, I don't even know how to describe these people,
but they're just friends of ours.
They're way too cool.
I feel like the little street rat that they took in.
Yeah, and they just put this like aesthetic,
like the vast majority of music choices are theirs
and they were very, very particular about the way the characters dressed
and stuff and it was very beyond us and we were like, yeah, cool.
It really comes across in like the show's got like an aesthetic.
Yeah, big time, big time.
It doesn't look like nothing.
Like I notice it.
I'm like, yeah, this has got to look.
I'd imagine them dragging you off the street and they put you in the bath
with like big scrubbing brushes.
Yeah, it was very that.
When they were first trying to like we were talking about how the characters
should dress, we were like, for Penny we really like Naomi's, you know,
natural style of like you just picked up something that was on the floor
and, you know, crumpled up and threw it on.
And I'm like, oh, that's how I come across.
That's great.
Thanks.
Not anymore.
You like how you just wear anything.
Yeah.
Whatever.
And you like stink and you look like shit.
We love that.
That's really rich character work.
This is just a question for me that I want to know.
No one else would probably care about this.
But with the murals that you had, were any of them real
or were they all like CGI murals?
They were CG'd on.
I knew it.
Especially the up high one because I'm like, that's impossible.
They couldn't have done that probably.
And nor would you want to because it wasn't the best art.
In fact, it was bad on purpose.
And we were like, if someone comes and sees this awful thing
that we've put on,
it's like, no, but we're critiquing it.
You've just left horrible things just on all these walls across Melbourne.
This is really nerdy, but there's one thing in the show,
it's not that nerdy, there's one thing in the show that, like,
even I can't believe we pulled off.
Is the bit where you walk across the mural?
I mean, that is nuts.
That was when it had me going, hang on a minute,
is that a real mural?
What's going on here?
But it looks quite well.
No, all of the driving scenes when they're driving in the car
were all shot in a studio.
Get the fuck out of here.
Right?
And it looks, it's fucking flawless.
It looks flawless.
I didn't know they could do that in Australia.
And then I was like, and I was saying to Naomi, I'm like,
that is the best I've ever seen it done.
And then I was like, but maybe I have seen it done before.
If the technology is there, maybe they've been,
and that would be amazing.
If we're watching shit that looks like it's real
but it hasn't been for a long time, Hollywood, I'm impressed.
Fast and Furious 8, they recorded it in ABC Studios.
Really?
The whole thing, yeah.
Incredible.
So it wasn't on the back of a truck.
No, it was supposed to be, but because of COVID,
we couldn't get police.
Yeah, and so then we were like, okay.
So it's just a green screen.
Yeah, it's just a green, yeah.
So you're like, this is going to look like shit.
And we were like, that's a compromise we'll have to make.
And then when we saw, when the shots came in,
our jaws just hit the fucking ground, man.
I was so impressed.
I've never seen it.'ve never seen that kind of budget
most of the work most of the work went into me trying to look like i was believably driving a
car so i wasn't just like swinging my hands back and forth like i was turning and like making sure
my eyes were looking like around but not too much what are you looking at just like a camera
obviously well i'm yeah i'm looking in a certain direction clearly um our cinematographer, Shelley, was like, what is she doing?
So he's like holding the camera and then he just like sticks his hand out
and starts wiggling his fingers so that I'll look in that direction.
Like a cat.
Yeah.
Or a kitty in the photo.
I trust him, so I was just like, I'll do what he says.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
To wrap this up, if you don't mind, I've got a list of upcoming stuff that we're getting for video games
for TV and movies.
Oh, yeah.
So, you know, this is some stuff to get excited about.
Let's hear it.
We can prejudge them.
We're going to be good on them.
Love to do that.
Yeah, definitely.
Resident Evil, that's this year.
They're doing another one.
They're doing the Netflix TV show, yeah?
No, this is a movie that's a reboot of the Mila Jovovich movie.
Oh.
I don't know why I thought.
But it's more like the first. They might be doing an anime on Netflix. You know how they do that sometimes? Yeah, I think that's a reboot of the Milla Jovovich movie. Oh. I don't know why I thought. But it's more like the first.
They might be doing an anime on Netflix.
You know they do that sometimes.
Yeah, I think that's right.
I think there's something.
That's fascinating.
Another movie.
Because like the new games, like the remake of 2.
I started it.
You started it?
It was good.
I finished 2.
I didn't finish 3 because I didn't find it as good.
But 2 was like one of the best games.
That's very high on my list.
They're going to do four, right?
Because that's the one I really want to play.
Probably.
Yeah.
They'd be silly not to.
Yeah.
Uncharted, Mark Wahlberg and Tom Holland.
I don't know how I feel about this.
Wait, who's Nathan Drake?
Mark Wahlberg is Sully.
Yeah.
No moustache?
Is that correct?
Wait, aren't they brothers?
No.
Sully is like his mentor. Yeah. In fouroustache? Is that correct? Wait, aren't they brothers? No. Sully is like his mentor.
Yeah, in four you find out how they meet and stuff.
He's his mentor.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
But he doesn't have a moustache,
but he did post one photo on Instagram where he did have a moustache.
But, like, if you're going to do Sully, that's, like, his only thing.
Maybe it's a flashback.
Maybe they do the –
It's early days on Charter, isn't it?
Flashbacks?
Maybe they do the.
Yeah.
It's early days on Shard, isn't it? The, like, the journey that that's had to getting made has been a nightmare.
He aged out of it because he was Nathan Drake and he aged into Sully.
So I can't imagine it.
If it's good, it's purely by a miracle.
Wait, Tom Holland is Nathan Drake?
Yep.
Because there's a little boy.
But he's like 25? He seems way too young. But he doesn't Holland as Nathan Drake. Yep. Because there's a little boy. But he's like 25.
He seems way too young.
But he doesn't seem like Nathan Drake.
But it might be set before.
Yeah, because you are a little Nathan Drake in some of them, aren't you?
In four.
I'd rather watch Tom Holland than Nathan Drake,
so I'm not really complaining here because Nathan Drake is like the epitome
of man who thinks he's funny with no evidence.
Tom Holland doesn't play Tom Holland.
He plays Nathan Drake.
I know.
So you are going to have to watch Nathan Drake.
No, but I'm watching Tom Holland do Nathan Drake,
so I already think Tom Holland's charming,
whereas when I was watching you play Uncharted,
I just felt sick to my stomach.
So hopefully Tom Holland can, you know, offset that a little bit.
Who you hate is Nolan North.
Is that who does the voice?
Yeah.
I think I hate the writing, to be honest. Tom Holland can, you know, offset that a little bit. Who you hate is Nolan North. Is that who does the voice? Yeah.
I think I hate the writing, to be honest.
Yeah.
I don't think it's spectacular.
So hopefully the writing is completely different.
Yeah.
Take all the concepts from the video game and then just change them completely.
I would love that.
Yeah.
Me too. Hopefully nothing's awkward because they're going to have to come.
No one's going to have to.
This was recently announced.
Sonic the Hedgehog 2.
Tails and Jason Momoa might be Knuckles.
Oh, great.
Good on them.
There you go.
Okay.
I like Ben Schwartz as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Minecraft.
Minecraft.
All right.
You've got to.
It's got to be animated, right?
That is one of those that is animated.
I guess.
Someone wrote in. I don't know if I remember. Which is very blocky actors. Yeah. Jason've got to. It's got to be animated, right? That is one of those that is animated. I guess. Someone wrote in, I don't know if you've heard of him.
Which is very blocky actors.
Yeah.
Jason Statham is the.
Daniel Craig, yeah.
That's purely a product of like sometimes things just get to a point,
like the Beatles.
Angry Birds.
They just got to a point, Angry Birds, where you just have to make a movie.
You just have to.
Because the money will be there.
You won't lose your money. I saw Angry Birds 2 but not 1 and just have to. Yeah. Because the money will be there. You won't lose your money.
I saw Angry Birds 2 but not 1 and it was fine.
Yeah.
And it doesn't matter if it's terrible because enough stupid kids will go
and watch it.
Or dads who are like, we just need to kill.
Yeah, you need to kill a couple of hours.
You'll do it.
It's fine.
It doesn't matter.
I can put in one earphone.
And your dumb kids will love it.
The Lego movies are great.
Yeah, exactly.
That's why I think this is happening.
I think they went Lego movie.
That's like squares.
Yeah, sometimes there's an exception, you know,
like the Lego movies were spectacular.
That's probably why Tetris is going on.
Exactly.
Squares are in.
Jason Statham is the long one.
The Rock.
But littler, Naomi.
Do your joke, Naomi, do your joke.
Here we go.
You got this.
I believe in you.
Tiny little stone.
Six episodes.
Love it.
There we go.
Season two confirmed.
We've locked it in.
Someone wrote it, I don't know if it's in front of me,
but like if Minecraft was like a survival movie where if you did like
cast away but it's.
I'm sorry.
Is everything in the movie going to be blocks?
I guess.
I can't take it seriously if everything is blocks.
I want to see a real human face stretched over.
They're going to cut their own leg off because it's been infected.
It just pops up into different elements.
I'm fascinated to know if they'll do like,
because I think with these things,
surely there's always the conversation of do we go a bit meta,
do we have people playing the game and then tell a story,
or do we just.
Or they get sucked into the game.
Yeah, like what, you know, like a Jumanji.
Wow.
I'm sad that this is a podcast because of the physical work
that we're doing here.
It's a lot coming.
You'll be able to feel it in the way you said it.
You really will.
I'm very interested to see what the approach is to Minecraft.
Yeah, it could easily make a billion dollars, something like that.
Easy.
My nephew will definitely watch it.
No, I don't think it'll tank.
I don't think it'll tank, even if it's the worst movie ever.
Fortnite game?
Are they going to do one?
There is a Fortnite game, Mason.
Yeah, there is a game.
There's a Fortnite game.
It's very popular.
Oh, no, I see what I've done now.
I see what I've done.. I see what I've done.
Movie.
Fortnite movie.
Maybe.
Surely.
You could do that as like, what's one of those?
Battle Royale.
You could do the purge, but like it's Fortnite for kids or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Glad I figured that out because I would have left.
Have you seen the?
What did I say that was funny?
Why was everyone looking at me like I was pathetic?
And then just me texting James at 3am,
can you cut out the thing where I said Fortnite again?
Can you cut it out?
Sorry, Minecraft has been removed from the schedule due to COVID.
So it's not anime?
I don't know.
And Fortnite is a game.
All the blocks got COVID.
Yes, that's right.
Anyway, the next one I've got here is there's a Fallout series
from Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy who did Westworld.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, Jonathan Nolan.
That could be something.
I don't know much about Fallout but it seems at least it's like interesting
like the few parts that I've watched about like the world building and stuff.
Yes.
I have an unopened copy of Fallout 4.
Do either of you want it?
Or you, Mason?
Yes.
I bought that game for like, we've got it.
Oh.
Do you still want it?
Yeah.
Borderlands, that got a bunch of casting recently.
Yes.
Kevin Hart.
Cate Blanchett is going to be in that.
Are you serious?
It's a movie, right?
Yes.
Cate Blanchett.
I'm a writer.
James?
No, you're right.
I'm Ryan.
Have you?
Cate Blanchett the game?
Am I right?
All it took was a sceptical look at you.
Confidence to say.
I'm questioning everything now.
Has anyone here played Borderlands, any of the Borderlands?
No, never.
So I've only played Borderlands 3 and I played it a bunch.
And I had to, it got to the point where I had to go into the sound settings
and turn off all the dialogue because every character is the most annoying.
It gave me a headache.
But you can turn it off though.
That's cool.
And, like, hearing the characters talk and their inane just bullshit.
I am so fascinated to see how they turn what I think is one
of the worst stories, the most annoying bunch of characters.
Isn't that lauded for its characters and its world?
Oh, is it?
By who? Idiots?? By who, idiots?
Sorry.
Sorry, idiots.
It just wasn't for me.
It just like, apparently number two has quite a good story
and number three has a good story.
And I heard that because there's like a, you know,
those Walking Dead mobile games or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's like a Fallout game in the, not the Fallout,
Borderlands in the style of that, isn't there?
Right.
Which is apparently very good.
It's the best story.
I saw that this week.
I don't know what I'm talking about.
Look, I didn't – I found it very frustrating.
But, again, I've only played number three.
So sorry, fans.
I'm very interested to see it.
I will see it purely because I'm –
Is it one of those games where you go into, like, a room or a hut
and there's one person standing in front of you and they're like,
what are you doing here?
And you're like, I've come into town.
And then they're like, there's a thing that you have to get or do.
And you're like, okay, but it's all.
Because that's my least favourite thing,
just a grinding halt where you just watch two people just fucking natter.
It's kind of that, but then it's a loot shooter,
so it's just about like getting the best loot.
But then it's also open world and it's kind of multiplayer.
So like you and four of your mates can go on these quests and adventures
and like beat a big boss together and then get a bunch of loot.
But then you have to go talk to some annoying NPC.
Love it.
Who's like, meow, meow.
They all have that voice.
Clap trap.
I see why they got Cate Blanchett.
It's just her shooting rats for hours just to get XP.
I have an Oscar probably. Or a Golden Globe, I don't know.
Five Nights at Freddy, that's coming at some point.
Oh, wait, is that the one where you're watching the cameras?
Yes.
Oh, yeah, I watched Demi Lardner play that for a bit on Twitch.
So it's like it looks like Chuck E. Cheese.
Yeah.
Wasn't it a mistake when like the creator,
like he meant to make another thing and people were like,
this is horrifying and he went, it's our game.
It's the champagne of video games.
But, yeah, there was just a Nicolas Cage movie called Willy's Wonderland which is basically the same premise.
Yeah, I'm very excited.
Oh, yeah, that's coming out.
Yeah, I'm going to see it at the Asta.
They're doing a double with Mandy, that and Mandy.
Oh, were you going to invite me?
No.
Okay.
There we go.
Please come.
It's too late now.
I'm going with Dean.
No, no.
I feel like I forced your hand.
I forced the invite and you should have just invited me.
You did force it.
Next one.
Gears of War.
Great, I guess. Yeah, sure, whatever. Just Cause and Just Dance. Not together. Next one. Gears of War. Great, I guess.
Yeah, sure, whatever.
Just Cause and Just Dance.
Not together.
Just Dance?
Yeah.
What a great crossover that would be.
I know.
That's the same US.
I tried to play Just Cause 3.
It wasn't for me.
That'll be it.
But, you know.
I played one of them.
You could just make that into like a fun generic action film.
Like that could work.
What is, I'm sorry, Just Dance?
Yes.
Why?
Good question, Naomi.
That's incredible.
That's what we're all thinking, yeah.
Is it a competition?
Is it a small town where you can't just dance?
Like I wonder if it's going to be.
Imagine a world where you can't just dance.
Because that sounds like they're just going to take like, you know,
like what's one of those underground dancing movies?
Step Up.
Like Step Up but then just slap the Just Dance IP on top of it.
It's just literally dancing.
The game is just dancing.
It's just dancing.
It's just dance as they call it.
Yeah, yeah.
So it could just insert any dance movie and it's the same.
Yeah, yeah.
You're right.
Mega Man?
I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know.
Okay.
Don't care.
Last of us we mentioned.
Metal Gear Solid.
I think the guy did Kong Skull Island is doing that
and I think it's Poe Dameron, that guy.
That could be interesting.
Yeah, he's cool.
Yeah, he's going to be Snake, but there's all different types of snakes.
Yeah, he's hot.
That movie's all over the place.
Yeah.
Saints Row and Yakuza.
Yakuza.
I've been playing Yakuza on Twitch.
Which one is that?
Which Yakuza?
It's a streaming platform.
Go on.
I've been playing Yakuza Zero.
Is that the newest?
I don't think it's the newest one,
but it's the one that everyone says is one of the best
and it's sort of like a prequel to the others,
which, again, I haven't played yet.
All my game recommendations come from you.
Should I play this game?
If you don't like people talking, it is so much talking.
Okay.
And some of the scenes you can't skip.
If it's good, I like it.
It's just a lot of you should do this and you should do that,
but they spend so long going over it.
I feel like I'm in a meeting and I'm like, all right,
just say what you want and then I can leave.
But the rest of the game I really – and people do love the stories.
I just have a short attention span.
But the combat is really fun and I'm not even really a combat person.
But the best thing is all these like mini games that you play
because it's set in – I think it's set in Tokyo.
But it's – yeah, you can do like karaoke and bowling and darts
and play pool and you can collect like karaoke and bowling and darts and play pool
and you can collect like soft porn cards.
Very cool.
And there's like, you do like bartending.
I've seen like bartending mini games and stuff.
Yeah, it's all this weird stuff.
There was one side mission where I had to teach these like rock
and rollers who weren't actually tough how to be tough.
It's a really fun game.
That sounds better than like Assassin's Creed
and you collect a million feathers for no reason.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, no, it's really, really fun.
There's actual variety.
Assassin's Creed, those games like try to give you the illusion of variety
with these like big worlds and these side quests.
But there's nothing in them, yeah.
No, it's just like go here, get a thing. That's why I like Ghost of Tsushima because like a lot of the with these like big worlds and these side quests. But there's nothing in them, yeah. No, it's just like go here, get a thing, come back.
That's why I like Ghost of Tsushima because like a lot of the stuff was like
it felt good and real.
And I finished it.
I did it.
That one I did finish.
I didn't play that, but that's one I always get recommended.
Do you want it?
I have a copy.
Actually, I want to keep that one if that's all right.
If that's all right.
All right, I guess.
You guys got to get some self-esteem in here, stat.
The thing that you bought for yourself that you enjoy, I guess you can keep that and not give it to me for free, I guess. You guys got to get some self-esteem in here, stat. The thing that you bought for yourself that you enjoy,
I guess you can keep that and not give it to me for free, I guess.
So the show is called Why You Like This.
It's out right now.
It is.
Or very soon on Netflix.
Yeah.
For the rest of the world.
You will not be able to watch it on Netflix in Australia for, like, ages.
So don't wait if you're waiting for it to be on.
Just go on iView.
The amount of times I have said it's on ABC iView
and it's coming to Netflix worldwide and then people have said,
is it coming to the UK?
People in the UK specifically, they love to ask if it's coming to the UK.
They haven't missed the Netflix thing. They say, is it coming to the UK. They haven't missed the Netflix thing.
They say, is it coming to UK Netflix?
And it's like, do you have Netflix?
It'll be on there, okay, wherever you are.
Wow, wow, wow.
Not in Australia.
Not in.
They don't have Netflix, though.
Not in China or North Korea.
But they don't have Netflix.
Good point.
So if you have Netflix, if you're in Brazil, it'll be on there.
If you're in the UK, get the bangers and mash out of your ears.
It'll be on there.
It's worldwide.
You've got it.
Are you in the world?
Yeah.
And also, I've just brought it up, people could tweet it.
Oh, Americans, it's going to be on your Netflix.
Yes.
Okay, very good.
Yes, it will be.
ABC Australia, if you could just tweet at them and just be like,
this is a good show.
Just do that every day forever. Do it. Absolutely. ABC Australia, if you could just tweet at them and just be like, this is a good show. Just do that every day forever.
Do it.
Send them a fax.
Send them an email.
There's too much of the same shit on Australian comedy.
I agree.
And it's nice to see, like, new faces and new people and new jokes.
And it's not just – there's, like, one good panel show.
It's, like, Gruen.
And everything else is just, like, whatever.
You know what I mean?
It's just nice to see something else.
There's a lot of different panel shows and shows for like older people,
which is fine, but there's so many young, talented people.
It's like the same fucking people.
Yeah, yeah.
They've only had like 20 fucking years.
I know.
And it's like hopefully, you know, if this show does well,
then maybe it's like a proof of concept for other people
who are under 50 to also get TV shows.
Yeah, exactly.
We can't believe this show got made and, like,
so much power to the ABC for believing in it because it's not
for their target demographic and it is such a brand new team.
None of us had written a sitcom before.
The directors hadn't shot dialogue before they started working on this show.
You know, like we were green but they supported us
and they let us do it and it's
really special. Are you listening
Channel 7? Are you listening?
Okay.
Why would they make our show when they make
Married at First Sight and a
billion people watch it? Like they
I don't even bother with them. That's Channel 9 Mark.
Whatever, whoever it is.
My Kitchen Rules.
Holy moly, the mini golf game for the whole family.
I don't know.
What happened to hole in the wall?
Remember you had to make a shape?
I don't remember that.
Oh, yeah, that was nuts.
Do you remember the tilt?
Tilt the room?
Tilt the room.
They just stole a McAuliffe sketch and just turned it into a game show.
What was interesting about that was there was nothing outside of the room tilted.
Because with how, what are you doing here?
What's that show called?
What are you doing?
What are you doing here?
Is this going to be one of the posters?
I hope this is one of the posters that comes up.
But, like, there were people, like, prompting conversation
and there were jokes and they'd try to, like,
talk them into a corner.
But this, like, the room just slid and then they just kind
of, like, continued.
One of my friends was on it and they fractured their ankle.
Oh, shit.
They really, they got really hurt.
That show was bad.
What are you doing here?
What are you doing here?
What are you doing here?
Anyways, again, thanks so much for coming on.
You've got Twitters to plug as well if you want to do that or Instagram.
Or Twitches.
Or Twitches.
Yeah.
I mean, if you want to catch me on Twitch, I'm the very polite gamer.
Give us a at very polite gamer.
And then all the Auntie Donna stuff.
Sure.
Hopefully you know about the Auntie Donna stuff, but search Auntie Donna.
And I'm nomstrosity.
But just look up Naomi Higgins because it's easy to spell.
Yeah.
Got it.
All right.
Thanks again, guys.
Really appreciate it.
Thank you for having us on.
Thank you for having us.
Bye.
You know what it's time for there, Mason?
Is it time for what we're reading?
Yeah.
And also what we're going to read?
Yeah.
Yes.
I'm doing the thing.
Westworld.
What I like that you've added is you've added like a hand to the headphone.
That's new for me.
Like a slight head nod.
Yeah. Like you're recording an R&B me. Like a slight head nod. Yeah.
Like you're recording an R&B classic.
Like I'm David Guetta solving racism.
Remember when he did that?
No.
This one goes out to George Floyd.
Have you seen that?
No.
Oh, it's incredible.
Okay.
Give it a listen.
I was thinking more of like Brandy in the 90s.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, right.
Fantastic.
Yep.
Let's talk about what we're eating.
Are we both watching Superstore?
Yes. I'm up to date. Oh, my goodness. Because the last about what we're eating. Are we both watching Superstore? Yes.
I'm up to date.
Oh, my goodness.
Because the last season isn't on Netflix.
But it's good, isn't it?
Well, I mean, it's good in the sense it's, you know, good casting, I think.
It just goes.
Well, it's, you know, as I've mentioned on previous episodes of this podcast,
I'm always looking for a show to watch when you're not watching a show.
And, you know, I've been watching it.
I like that, you know, it's got the office parks and rec,
will they, won't they kind of thing, you know.
And it is.
But at one point I was watching it and, you know, enjoying it a lot
and I went, I'm hungry, I should go out and get something to eat.
And I went out and I got something to eat like out of my house
and then I came back and I'm like, huh, I left it on.
And you just.
No, I went it back.
Okay.
So that's a testament to its quality.
Yeah.
This kind of...
I think this went under a lot of people's radar because now it's on Netflix.
Yes.
And there's five or six seasons on there now, whatever.
And yeah, there's like, you know, 22 a season.
What I don't like about the newer season is they work in COVID.
So it's all like masks.
And I'm like...
Okay, right, right, right.
And that's not a fault of the show, but I'm just like, I don't want to see any of this shit.
Like I know it because I see it every fucking day.
But what do you do?
Well, exactly.
I mean, your other option is just run as normal
and a significant portion of the viewing audience will be like,
why are you standing so close to each other?
Why are you doing this?
Yeah, exactly.
Also, the show features intermittently Australia's own Josh Lawson.
Yes.
Of course, he's the pharmacist in the show,
but he's also Kano in the New Mortal Kombat.
He does mysteriously disappear in some later seasons.
No doubt to be count.
Yeah, to be count.
I think he's always been pretty ripped.
Really?
If I had to.
But, I mean, for the movies, he's got to be extra ripped.
I guess he does.
He's probably always been ripped for an Australian.
Yeah.
Were we all ripped?
No, I mean, the world has a skewed view of us because of Hugh Jackman.
Oh, yeah.
And Chris Hemsworth appearing on the news every now and then.
Like he would just walk out of the woods and be like,
I'm doing the news or whatever.
I'm doing the weather.
You know he does that.
Yeah, for sure.
What's he up to?
Right now?
Thor.
Yes, it is that, yes.
I think.
And also some sort of ad I think maybe for his app where he's had his face
put on there like little kids and stuff.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's what he's up to.
Now we know.
What else have you been watching?
I've been smashing out a lot of Invincible.
I was only going to read the first volume because we're going to do it
for Book Club.
Yes.
But I've just been reading it.
It's very brisk, isn't it?
And I bought all of them.
I just went and bought every copy.
Ah, okay.
And I had most of them or like the back half at least because I think,
I don't know what I had before.
I think you gave me a bunch.
And at a certain point you sort of have to read.
I think we were reading it week to week at before. I think you gave me a bunch. And at a certain point you sort of have to read. I think we were
reading it week to week at one point as it
was coming out. Yeah. Starting in
2003. Yeah. Which is crazy.
Anyway, that show's out in February, March.
They just had a new trailer. So that's cool.
Very cool. I'm also
watched. I recommended this to you and maybe
you'll get to it next week. The Kid Detective
which came out last year. I also
recommended it to me from the folks on the Planet Broadcasting
Mate Mates Facebook group.
I don't have your name here, but they were like,
who else has watched this?
And I'm like, I should get into that.
I love Adam Brody.
He's great at many things.
So for people who are not aware of it, it's like an indie black comedy
mystery thriller.
And it's a subject near and dear to my heart where Adam Brody plays
this guy Abe
who as a kid was a kid detective who had like a –
Because you loved all those serial novels when you were a kid, didn't you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so he has like an office in a treehouse and like, you know,
other kids show up and put 50 cents in his jar and he solves their little mystery
in their little town or whatever.
But then it's, you know, cut to the modern day and he's graduated
from kid detective to real detective.
But he's still in this little town and not a lot is going on
and he's just sort of, you know, his parents are like,
when are you going to make some movies?
Do a real thing.
And then one day a girl from the local high school shows up
and says, can you help find out who murdered my boyfriend?
He's like, oh, this is my first real kind of.
And I think we've mentioned in the past Mystery Team,
which is a movie by Derek Comedy, which has Donald Glover.
Definitely shades of that, yeah.
Yeah, but in that, they're three, like, man-children
who never really grew up.
Yes.
And are still, you know, solving the mystery of the missing ice cream
or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
But in this, he's like, you know, he's a genuine grown-up adult.
Yeah, he's supposed to be 32.
Yeah, and it gets kind of like, you know,
it sort of gets intermittently dark.
Yeah.
It's a very good movie though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Shades of Brick as well, I would say.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But Brick's not very funny and this is pretty funny.
Yeah.
It's not laugh out loud funny.
Oh, no, but there's some very, there's like a great pong joke.
There's a few like, there's a hiding in a cupboard,
like a running gag, which is quite good.
There's a few things like recurring things, which I really enjoyed.
Yeah.
And he's sort of, he's, he's a, you know, he's a, he's a,
he's a well fleshed out character in that, you know,
some of his world is like genuine.
Like he's, he's actually kind of good at detecting because he's been doing it
for so long.
And some of it is just like pretentiousness and stuff he's clearly gotten from detective TV shows
and things like that.
Nonsense essentially, yeah.
Well, I think we should do the letters segment of the show, Mason.
I also think we should do the letters segment of the show.
And what better way to kick off the letters segment of the show than with
the letters theme for the letters segment of the show?
I should play the letters theme for the letters segment of the show
from my phone.
I'll do it right now.
All right.
Here we go.
The classic one was letters, oh, letters.
We love you.
Some letters, they're only a take my way.
I know they're here right now.
We're going to do letters.
All right.
Every now and then we get a comment.
This is like, does Mason really play that from his phone?
Yes, he does.
We'll never tell.
No, he does. No, we'll never tell. No, he does.
No, we'll never tell.
No, he does.
There's no secret.
He does it that way every week.
But we'll never tell.
We'll never tell.
If you do want to reach the show, hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter
or WeeklyPlanetPod at gmail.com.
Send us an email or, if you wish, you can send us a voicemail.
And how do you do that?
Audio recording.
Just record it on your phone or your computer device of choice.
Yes.
And then add it as an attachment to the email.
We do not have a dedicated voicemail line.
Keep it brief.
Keep it tangible.
That's right.
And we'll just make it happen for you.
But this week we decided we would have a theme off.
Yes.
Because we've been sent two alternate weekly planet themes.
Which is illegal most weeks, but because it's.
That's right.
We'd call the cops on both of you.
Because it's a leap year.
Or is it isn't? It's not. Because it's not a leap year. We're allowed to do because it's... That's right. We'd call the cops on both of you. Because it's a leap year. Or is it isn't?
It's not.
Because it's not a leap year, we're allowed to do it this week.
That's right, exactly.
Three out of every four years we are allowed to do this.
In February.
That's right.
Yeah.
So the first one is from Albert Salt.
I know Albert Salt.
Albert Salt.
A real life musician.
Oh my goodness.
Right.
So this says, hope you're both well.
I thought I'd put my spin on the Weekly Penitent theme song,
and since I was a little boy, I had Ship to Shore theme stuck in my head
but will never know what it's from.
And a few pods ago, James brought it up and something clicked in my head
and it came flooding back.
Thanks for the local references.
So here we go, Mason.
Let's do some Albert Salt stuff.
Let's do it.
Got a bit of pep and zip. It's got a bit of pep and zip.
It's got a whoosh.
And it's removed the most offensive element for you, James.
Because a lot of people are like just...
And added the most offensive element for me.
They put your name in it. The thing is, right, a lot of people are like just added the most offensive element for me they put your name in it they didn't like the thing is right a lot of people i've seen like on the reddit people are suggesting like this is how you change the same theme song
i never that's not like because it has to be done someone has to make it like the brute i don't want
to ask him to do it because i'm not like if he like i'll pay him if he wanted to do it if he
listens to this who knows he's in the. But, yeah, we're looking for alternatives at this point, aren't we?
That was a good one, though.
I thought so, too.
We have another one.
I was going to say, side note, I wanted to plug this ages ago,
but Albert Salt as an EP that came out quite recently.
It's on Spotify.
It's called 25 Not Doing All Right.
Oh, wow.
It's all about his experiences in lockdown in Melbourne
and just life in general in your mid-20s.
And bad, right?
Not bad.
Yes.
Experienced lockdown, 25, and all those things.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
Man.
I think people should check it out.
I listened to it the other day.
It's real good.
He liked it, everybody.
What's it called again?
It's called 25, Not Doing Alright.
All right.
So just look up Albert Salt on Spotify.
He seems like he's doing all right musically, though, at least.
Seems that way, yeah.
I agree.
This is from also, we've got another person here.
Marin says, fine, I can put both my talents to the test writing Western stuff
and listening to prestige podcasts.
Love from Croatia.
P.S. It might or might not contain the word butthole.
Oh, well.
Well, well, well.
I mean, maybe it's so good that it doesn't even bother me.
That's right. You know what I mean? Maybe it's just a man screaming butthole. That's right. Well, well, well. I mean, maybe it's so good that it doesn't even bother me. That's right.
You know what I mean?
Maybe it's just a man screaming butthole.
That's right.
For ten full seconds.
So here we go.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Western themed.
So this only works if I'm picked as a non-screen message, but you've been tricked.
I just wanted to hurt the trust between you and these voice messages.
Since I'm here, what is your favorite non-movie or TV Star Wars thing you really enjoyed?
And can I be the official Croatian guy of the pod?
Oh, and apparently Bruce Willis always stars in dumb movies just because he's...
Oh, cut off?
He's tricked us too many times.
He's tricked us too many times.
Man.
And you won't be having it.
I really talked that up, you know what I mean?
Right?
This is why we don't screen things, for example, like this.
Because, yeah, for the thrill of it.
Now we have to think on our feet, James.
We're going to have a theme off.
Well, I guess the first theme won.
That being said, that second theme wasn't bad.
We just play that at the start of every episode.
About how we, the hosts, have been tricked and how we're easily tricked.
That's right.
Favourite Star Wars thing outside of the movies and TV?
Darth Vader comic for me.
Yeah, right.
Shadows of the Empire book.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, we're naming one of each.
Thrawn trilogy.
No, just whatever.
Okay, I'm going to say Doctor Aphra, the comic book.
It's a good one, yeah.
Maybe Jedi Fallen Order.
I like that a lot.
Yeah, that's good.
That was good.
Jedi Knight 2.
Did I say Darth Vader comic?
Yes, you did.
Yeah, good.
I like that new Kylo Ren run.
Yeah, yeah.
It's quite nice. Star Wars Holiday Special. Star Wars Holiday Special, one? Yes, you did. Yeah, good. I like that new Kylo Ren run. Yeah.
Star Wars Holiday Special.
Star Wars Holiday Special, one of the best.
Caravan of Courage.
Yep.
Great.
Follow-up movie, Battle of Endor.
Yes, cool.
Truce at Bakura.
The Truce at Bakura.
Yeah, sure.
What do you think about that Star Wars trilogy comic that we did for Caravan of Garbage?
The one, the alternate timeline one?
That one, but the one where it's like set after and they do a little adventure and Boba Fett's back in it
and they go to Han's apartment.
Oh, yeah, okay.
That was a fun one.
That was fun, whatever that one was called.
The Emperor's Back.
R2-D2 and C-3PO, Salt and Pepper Shakers.
Yeah, those are very good, aren't they?
Very good, yeah.
Did you ever play Yoda Stories?
I think I played Yoda Stories.
It was randomly generated.
Oh, it was like a top-down little adventure one.
Yeah, yeah.
I think I played the Indiana Jones version of that.
Oh, yeah.
So that is one of my favourite Star Wars things,
the Indiana Jones little adventure in the Salt Shakers.
I think that's enough options, isn't it?
I think it's enough at all.
And, yeah, let us know about that Bruce Willis thing
because you got cut off at the end.
So if you could just email it again.
Just email it again, that would be great.
I mean, we won't be tricked this time.
We will not be tricked.
Have you got any more?
Because I do.
I certainly do.
I've got more emails.
I shouldn't tell you that much.
Here's one.
Okay, this is from Victor.
He says, thank you from a frozen Texan and his little dog.
Oh, man, a lot of stuff going on there.
All right. Hey, mates, I just of stuff going on there. All right.
Hey, mates, I just want to tell you guys that Monday's weekly PlanetPod episode
helped me mentally get through Monday night without power here in Austin, Texas.
I was finally able to download at like 11.30 p.m.
after the cell service came back in my area,
and I was able to charge my phone in my car.
At that point, we had been without power for 22 of our 53-hour blackout.
Even though it was 9 degrees, about negative 13 degrees Celsius outside,
and me and my pup were trying to keep warm in the dark
under every blanket we own,
the pod provided some sense of comfort and normalcy to the situation.
My pup loves hearing James and Maso's voice
because on normal Mondays it means I'm getting ready to take him on a walk.
That's right, we're old school weekly hackadadoos.
Pavlovian.
And weekly planet walkies has been a Monday tradition that hasn't been missed
since I first found the podcast in early 2014.
That's terrific.
It is.
Yeah.
The good news is that this afternoon marks 24 hours where we've had constant
power since this all started, and we hope we can get water back before this
weekend.
Got to try to stay positive right.
Anyway, thanks a lot, gents, from Vic.
Really appreciate that.
Yeah. And I hope you're doing all right.
Tough times in Texas.
Yeah, it seems like you are, all things considered.
You know what I mean?
You've got every blanket going at once, working overtime,
and that's good, keeping your dog warm.
But, yeah, hats off to everybody in Texas.
Big hats.
Ten-gallon hats off.
But keep it on.
Yes.
It's so goddamn cold.
And we're sorry your governor ran away like our prime minister did
during the bushfires.
He sco-motored, as we would call it.
We know.
We know.
We know what that's about.
We sure do.
I recognized that play when I saw it.
Yeah, that's right.
I fucking hate that I know who Ted Cruz is.
I shouldn't need to know that.
Ugh.
Yes.
Ugh.
Ugh.
I mean, at least defend your family.
Like, he's thrown his-
James, do you have more emails?
No, just listen.
He's thrown his whole fucking family under the bus.
No, he did that, didn't he?
Like at different times.
You know what I mean?
Your job is to not do that.
Yeah.
And govern.
But he doesn't hold a hose, mate.
What does that mean?
That's what Scott Morrison said.
Oh, I was talking about Ted Cruz.
No, I know.
But yeah, fucking-
They both did it.
Yeah, great.
Anyway, this is a letter.
I actually delved into the letters, which I don't normally do,
but this one intrigued me and I wanted to defend myself.
Okay.
It said, James, this is the headline,
James is responsible for the Snyder Cut.
Oh, yes.
Which also might be a good thing.
It might be fucking incredible.
In which case you're welcome.
Thanking me.
But I don't think I am regardless.
Hey, James and Mayso.
Have you fully grasped the idea that the Snyder Cut is kind of James' fault?
Snyder cited James' video on the Batman kill count as part of his justification
for making Batman a murderer in BVS.
That video, again, happened after.
The movie was already being made.
I didn't influence the movie.
Yeah, he just cited it.
Threw me under the, he scomoed me.
Okay, but what was going to happen, I don't know if you were aware of that,
in Batman v Superman, they were going to do it A-Team style where every time
Batman blew up a truck
with people in it, it was gonna be like a little
moment where they get out and one guy goes, are you alright?
And the other guy goes, yeah, I'm fine. We're fine.
But he cut all those out.
Son of a bitch. The general response to BVS
definitely played a role in Justice League becoming a mess
with regards to tone and
everything. All the chaos related to the OG Justice League led a mess with regards to tone and everything.
All the chaos related to the OG Justice League led to it being bad,
fans demanding Snyder's version,
and then Snyder Cut finally being released almost six years
after James made the video.
So, yeah, think about it.
If you think about it, James caused the Snyder Cut
and maybe ruined movies forever.
That's from Liam.
Look, I like the detective work that you've done.
And I like the idea that one of us is responsible for ruining movies forever,
and I'm just sad it wasn't me.
But go on, yes.
No, you ruined Thor Ragnarok.
You ruined that surprise, remember?
I did, didn't I?
Yes.
Yes.
We're both ruining movies.
We've each ruined a franchise, so that's good.
Yeah, so good stuff.
I enjoyed that email.
What else you got, Mason?
Well, here's another.
Here's one more email from Texas, And then we've got something else.
This is from Manuel.
Hey, James and Mason, I just wanted to share my story.
Like nearly all of the state, we went through blackouts leaving us without power while our
city dropped to single digits.
Oh, boo.
At nine degrees.
The first few days, my wife, myself, and our two pups.
Oh, there's a lot of pups keeping warm in these stories.
Pup situation.
Wore multiple layers of everything and stayed in bed all day with eight blankets piled on
top of us trying to stay warm. Because of where we live
steep hills icing over made it nearly impossible
to leave until eventually our
neighbour was rescued by a friend who offered us to
take us in as well. We made it to a
warm place with power, water and food taken
in by essentially strangers to ride out the rest of the storm.
That same night though, frozen pipes
back at our place burst and flooded
our home leaving it totaled. In yet another
absurd twist of fate, ridiculous acts of kindness, our landlord offered us
one of her other properties to stay at while our place gets rebuilt.
We're currently cleaning out the wreckage of our two-bedroom condo, and we're just
giving the keys to a four-bedroom house.
Wow.
I just thought you'd enjoy this story of people being extremely kind and generous during
these times of crisis.
That's one thing that is really good coming out of it as well.
Yep.
Like, even if your governor is fleeing the country
I hate to get political
but people are helping each other out
which is really terrific.
Politics is being put aside and
people are just like, hey the hill's
fucking icy, do you want to move?
Yeah, that's right. So great, that's really good.
I agree. But also
the government should intervene and do more in
these situations. I'm not talking about there, I'm talking about fucking everywhere in the world. I agree. But also the government should intervene and do more in these situations. I'm not talking about there, I'm talking about
fucking everywhere in the world. I agree. Because that's your
fucking job. That's right. To do that
shit. Just like our job is to provide the
best content. That's right. And we're working
our way up to it. We're going to get there. Just get off
our back. God.
Just let us do a few more practice
runs.
Okay, well, to tell you what, after our 500th
practice run, we'll do a good one.
There we go, yeah.
Yeah, that's right.
This is from Isaac Zahn who says,
I have to take with you Planet Pod.
This will be spoilers for WandaVision as well.
I put this down before I'd seen the episode because I thought
it was a good question, but how cool would it be if there was no
deep dark in WandaVision, then Wanda is the main villain
for the MCU moving forward.
I think that would have been interesting.
It still could go that way.
That's true.
But no, I do like that idea.
Yeah.
But yeah, there's been some twists and turns.
Well, yeah, I mean, yeah.
But at time of recording, there's still two more episodes.
That's right.
So there's room for at least one more twist, I think.
I agree, at least.
Speaking of, this is from Ashley.
Okay.
And she says, I got you a podcast listen without
lying, which is not our preferred option.
Without lying? Hey guys, for a very
long time I've been trying to convince my friends to listen to the
pod. Some of my best lies have been used
trying to persuade them, but nothing was working because they're
all stubborn pricks. I know they all watch WandaVision
so like the good fan I am, I made sure to
plug your review videos each week. Turns out they
really enjoy them and it's convinced at least one of them to listen
to the pod.
Hi, Sam, if you're actually listening.
Hi, Sam.
I guess the life lesson here is telling the truth works.
Not sure I'm convinced, but hey.
Socially distanced high fives from the UK.
Ashley?
That's not the lesson I take from it.
What do you think the lesson is? I think we're doing great content.
Oh, yeah.
And we're building up to it and I think it's finally paying off.
That's right.
But no, those WandaVision videos are doing well and Collings, first of all, great edit.
I think that's very much part of the...
It certainly helps.
There is a...
It's 90% of what's good about it.
Oh, definitely.
But again, having seen the last one and some snippets of the early one, there are some
running visual gags.
Crazy.
And again, he's had next to no time to make these.
I think the last two he did 30 hours straight editing.
Wow.
And I keep being like, make these worse.
You don't have to do this.
On purpose.
Yeah, no, genuinely.
Like, just put a picture up for a minute.
I don't care.
Yeah.
But if you get a chance, do watch the videos because, again,
there is a running gag that the cat is behind it all, I think.
Yes.
The dog?
Yeah, yeah.
Maybe.
But, yeah, there's a lot of stuff that goes into it.
And also they do go up on early at bigsandwich.co,
the audio version, pretty much straight after we finish.
Yeah.
Those go up.
So, yeah.
I've got one more.
No, I don't.
That's it.
I've got one more then.
I've got one last one.
That's true.
This is from Steve Gray.
He says, I put my cape on like Doctor Strange.
What does that mean?
He says, hey, boys, I just wanted to let you guys know
I work as a biomedical scientist.
I'm the bozo who tests all the samples that come into the lab
checking for COVID.
That's you?
It's a long and brutal job, but it's worth it to help folk.
There are two things that get me through a night shift.
One is James and Mesa distracting me with their banter
and Tom Holland impressions.
The other is that every time I come into the lab,
I don't put on my lab coat like a normal person.
I put it on like Doctor Strange putting on his cape.
That's sick.
All the best boys from Steve.
Question, Steve. Has anybody noticed?
Has anyone been like... He puts it on with a flourish
in his twirl. Yeah, that's what I mean.
Interesting. And presumably some sort
of supernatural. So like a...
Not like a...
Not like a shrug or...
I also like
to think, like I'm assuming that he puts his arms through the sleeves,
but I like to think that he doesn't.
He just flips it over and ties it around the neck.
Yeah.
Do you think when Doctor Strange stops doing it with a flourish,
that's when he has to give up being the Sorcerer Supreme?
Yes.
Because his heart's not in it?
Yeah, when he's lost the passion for it.
Yeah, I agree with me.
All right, that's the episode, isn't it?
The whole episode.
Thank you, everybody, so much for listening.
Thank you for Mark and Naomi for popping in.
Thank you so much.
Very cool.
How do people just sneak in without us noticing
and then the episode just continues when they're here?
Because we're good at riffing.
Because we did the show.
We were doing the show and then they just appeared in here.
They just appeared, yeah.
I don't know.
We'll ask them.
We'll get them back and we'll ask them.
Okay, we'll do that, yes.
We might get Mark back when Mortal Kombat comes out.
That's right, yes.
Naomi is also welcome, by the way.
Oh, they're both welcome.
Just to clarify.
In fact, almost anyone is welcome.
No.
We continue.
People we know.
I'd never met her before.
Oh, that's a good point.
So, you know, it's open.
You know what I mean?
It's true.
It's open.
So people we have met or never met before,
they're all welcome to pop in, just appear in an episode.
Yep, exactly.
And we'll talk about your topic of choice.
Definitely.
Thank you, everybody, so much for listening
and for subscribing and telling a friend or lying to a friend
to get them to listen or leaving a nice review.
James, you got a nice review?
Got a couple here, Mason.
This one from DrBertDPT.
It says, this is my favourite podcast and for a good reason.
James and Mason are able to do what many podcasts have trouble doing,
keeping your attention and never having a dull moment for the entirety
of the podcast.
I've been listening to them for years and will continue for hopefully many
more five stars.
Do it in app.
You can do something like that or you can keep it short,
like Strong Cool, who just wrote Solly, and then wrote,
these guys giggle.
These silly guys giggle almost as much as me and my friends.
Tee hee.
We tee hee it up.
It's fun to tee hee.
It certainly is.
And yeah, why don't you keep doing the thing that you're doing now?
I absolutely will.
In app.
Sorry, go on.
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A windy one?
Yeah, no, it was like a grip one.
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They're wonderful giraffes, but I won't be able to get them through customs.
And the best thing about that was because you had the torch later,
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You had six things.
You had the torch and the wooden giraffes.
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That's the show, isn't it?
Next week?
Who knows?
We don't know at this point.
What's out?
I don't know.
When's The Snyder Cut coming out?
I watch Monster Hunter.
Soon, right?
Yeah, March 18th, a bit of time.
Oh, that's okay, yeah.
Do you want to talk about Monster Hunter?
The movie Monster Hunter? Maybe.
Tell me what I'll watch it tonight and if it's very thrilling.
You might want to talk about it.
It's fine.
It's fine.
It's like an okay Resident Evil movie, which makes sense.
We should like track down.
What's something in the vein of the kid detective that we talked about earlier?
Brick.
Do you want to do a detective episode?
Maybe.
Detective stuff.
We can talk about Dick Tracy again.
Oh, like I'll give you a mystery and you have to solve the mystery.
I would love to solve a mystery.
I don't want it to be one of those rooms where you go in and you've got to look in a box and the box says a telephone
and you ring the telephone and it gives you a code
and you unlock a key but then there's another box in there
and I don't want an escape room.
So you saw what I set up.
Yes, I did.
I do not like that.
I'll have to think of something else.
They fill me with dread.
I don't like the idea that somebody's watching the whole time
judging how bad you are at it.
Look, I reckon though of those.
They've seen it all.
They're like doctors.
They've seen it all.
There's no issue that you could provide with them that they'd be like,
oh, wow, he's really gone off script here.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you might be right.
Anyway, we'll see how we do in yours.
Yeah, that's right.
I've done one and it was all right.
Have you done one before?
No, I don't think I have.
I think the lesser people, the better.
You want like two, maybe three, maybe one.
Is that weird if you did a skate room by yourself?
Solo a skate room, yeah, kind of.
That would be weird.
I think that would be the only thing they haven't seen before.
It's just one guy going in and going, I'm here to solve this on my own.
I don't think there's nothing wrong with that.
I think it's like going to a movie by yourself.
I love going to movies by myself.
I would never have done that.
Now I only exclusively do it.
That's right.
Yeah.
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah.
All right.
That's it. That's our show. Look, we my goodness. Yeah. All right. Is that it?
That's it.
That's our show.
Look, we'll think of something.
Yeah.
Maybe it's that thing we said.
Yeah.
Or a different thing.
Maybe we'll solve a murder.
Yeah.
Or attempt.
Yeah.
Yeah, cool.
Maybe we'll get trapped in an escape room and there'll be no episode next week.
I don't want that.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's get out of here, Mason.
All right.
Grab that gem, you guys.
We'll see you next week.
Goodbye.
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