The Weekly Planet - 385 Venom 2 & Spiral: From The Book Of Sawnarios
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The Weekly Planet.
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Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet,
where we talk movies and comics and TV shows.
My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday,
and with me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason Mason Mason.
We're keeping that energy up.
We got to.
We did a little dance before the show started.
It was very good.
We did.
We did this whole riff about a person that we know that we can't repeat here
because it doesn't make any sense,
and it's very insulting
to that person in particular.
So I'm riding high off that energy.
Oh, my God, absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's good fun.
We can't even repeat it to him.
No, we can't.
That's okay.
Yeah.
Mason.
What a day.
What a day.
What a day to be talking about whatever we're going to talk about this week.
I agree because we're going to talk about some Indy 5 casting,
some Snake Eyes stuff, some Fantastic Four non-casting, Black Widow news,
a bunch of other Marvel news including Shang-Chi,
some Knives Out casting.
First look at the He-Man reboot.
I don't know if you saw that.
Saw some stills, yeah.
Saw some stills.
Good, good, good.
The Golden Globes are under fire?
Oh, goodness.
That famously suspicious award ceremony.
Wow.
And, of course, Spiral.
Speaking of Indiana Jones, that great adventure serial,
the most incredible adventure serial, what's a worse one?
The Phantom.
Exactly.
We recorded an audio commentary for the movie The Phantom.
That's right.
Now, if you love The Phantom and, of course, along with The Phantom,
you loving The Phantom, you might love Defenders of the Earth.
I've muted it.
It didn't work.
Wow.
That's all right.
That's not even working.
Don't even worry, everybody.
Defenders of the Earth.
Out of the sky, his rockets ignite.
Jets into battle.
It was just me enjoying that song and the headphones.
I imagined it.
Yeah.
Good fun.
I'm capable of imagining things.
For those people who haven't listened before, don't worry about it,
whatever that was.
Don't even worry about it.
Yeah, so we did a commentary for The Phantom starring Billy Zane from 1995.
If you go to bigsandwich.com and sign up.
It was there last week, but we forgot to mention it.
And this week we're doing another clickbait show.
That's right.
Where we do a bunch of clickbait.
Mason reads clickbait to me and I.
You get increasingly angry.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's nine bucks a month.
There's a huge back catalogue of stuff if you're doing a sign-up bonus podcast, early videos.
Heaps of stuff, mate.
We've got a grand time over there.
We really do.
Speaking of grand times.
There's new catchphrases over there.
Oh, there's so many.
All kinds of, yeah.
It's a wild ride.
Do you love the new Venom trailer?
Venom, get ready for a piping hot slice of carnage.
Here it comes.
Is that the subtitle now?
That's what it is.
Great.
It's just a couple of, it's the original odd couple, isn't it?
Just a couple of.
Is that what we were hoping for?
Because that's what we're getting and I'm kind of okay with it.
Yeah.
Well, that's what worked for me about the first movie.
And now we've got a couple of gooey guys just coming at each other,
which was also the last movie.
The original gooey couple.
Yes, that's right.
One's neat and one's messy, but they're both equally gooey.
Yeah, that's true.
They both wallow in the same goo.
Yeah.
One of them is the goo.
One of them's the goo, yeah.
I meant in terms of like Carnage and Venom because they're both gooey guys and there was Toxin and Venom maybe in the last one?
At the very least, this one is an improvement on the previous one,
whether you like the last one or not.
I don't.
This one is definitively an improvement because one of the guys is black
and one of the guys is red.
Exactly.
And you can tell them apart in a darkened action sequence.
Yeah, in a big splodgy splodge fest.
A couple of gooey guys.
A couple of gooey guys having a make and a run at it.
You know what I mean?
splodge fest.
A couple of gooey guys.
A couple of gooey guys having a make and a run at it.
You know what I mean?
So yeah,
it seems like they've
leant into the wacky stuff,
like the lobster tank eating stuff
and the weird split personality.
Andy Serkis is directing this one.
And I've said this before,
but I like his version
of The Jungle Book.
That's right.
People don't or maybe
haven't seen it,
but I quite like it.
And you were like,
if only it were gooier.
Yeah, that's what I said to myself as I was watching that movie.
Baloo, more like bagoo.
Galoo.
Galoo.
Perfect.
So, yeah, I did like that breakfast scene.
Like I think it's wacky and fun and gross and whatever,
you know what I mean?
It would be a nightmare living with.
But in the comics it's not like a separate thing that talks to him, is it?
Is it like one sort of?
Good question.
Well, they've been separated.
It's been a very long time since I've read a Venom comic book.
I would have read Venom like in its heyday in the 90s.
So at that point he would speak like he would say we a lot.
Yeah.
I don't know if you had any like conversation.
I don't know if Eddie Brock the man ever had conversations
with Venom the character.
Yeah.
He probably has now.
Yes.
I mean they would have at this point they would have attempted
every conceivable.
Yes.
You know there's almost certainly been like comics where they exist
in a mind plane and they have conversations with one another and all that sort of stuff. Yeah. That's almost certainly been like comics where they exist in a mind plane
and they have conversations with one another and all that sort of stuff.
Yeah, that's really fun, I think.
Yeah, well, in the movies when they're formed together
and they're both the Venom, they do that wee thing, don't they?
Probably.
I've only seen that movie once.
And I guess I'll watch it again.
But they've also changed Sideshow Bob's hair.
What do you think of that?
That's what I was going to bring up.
They've changed Carnage's hair from whatever curly monstrosity it was last time.
I liked it.
To a normal haircut, a normalish haircut.
I liked it.
I liked both, I think.
I don't know.
I can't remember what I said the last time.
It looked ridiculous.
Do you think there's going to be context for it in this movie?
Do you think he's going to get a haircut?
Well, I think it's just passage of time.
And I was going to do a trailer breakdown.
It's gotten shorter over the passage of time, James.
That's what can happen.
You can get a haircut.
You get a hair machine and then you get a cut.
Yeah, so I did a bunch of notes because I was going to do a trailer breakdown.
Then I went, you know what?
I just don't want to look at this for any length of time.
The trailer or just the haircut?
The trailer.
So even though I'm totally okay with it, yep, sequel, whatever,
make it dumb and fun and this.
There might be some Avengers and Spider-Man nods,
but apparently it's not the same universe,
but I think it's that same kind of vague.
Oh, because it was pointed out that one of the characters is reading,
it's Tommy from the movie Snatch, that actor's name.
Yeah, that guy.
Whatever the guy's name is. He's probably friends with Andy Serkis or he was in the first movie. that actor's name yeah that guy whatever the guy's name is
he's probably friends
with Andy Serkis
or he was in the first movie
I don't know
certainly yeah
maybe
he's also Al Capone
in Peaky Blinders
oh
etc
and Tom Hardy
was Al Capone
in that other one
oh yeah
couple of Al Capones
couple of Al Capones
in this movie
couple of Capones
um
was he Al Capone
in Peaky Blinders
I don't know
he's certainly been
Al Capone in something
I'm glad he's been Al Capone me too. I'm glad he's been Al Capone.
Me too.
But I'm glad he's had the opportunity to read a newspaper in this,
which is a little bit of an Easter egg.
That's where we're going with that.
It's the Daily Bugle newspaper.
Yeah.
And as has been established in the Spider-Man Far From Home,
the Daily Bugle is like a shock jock vlog kind of live streaming.
I guess it could be both things.
It could be both, exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
And I think there's some other stuff in there that I can't really remember
from the trailer.
I think there might be an Avengers headline or a partial one.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It could also be like revenge or avenged.
I think it will be one of those things where if this does well.
Or venge-tables.
Venge-tables, yeah.
Venge-tables.
Scientists recommend you eat all your venge-tables.
I agree. If this does well financially or commercially or, eat all your venge-tables. I agree.
If this does well financially or commercially or, more importantly, both. It's headline news, James.
Yes.
Eat your venge-tables.
Yes.
Financially or commercially?
No, that's the same thing.
Financially or critically and get people to like it.
Then they'll fold it into whatever version of Sinister Six they've definitely got lined up.
Yes, that's right.
Or they'll dump it, we'll say.
Yes.
Because it seems like Marvel are keeping this Sony universe
at kind of arm's length for a lot of the time.
But, yeah, that comes out, I want to say July,
but I also don't want to commit to a date.
Kind of like my bloody wedding.
Am I right, Mason?
Kind of like bloody getting married.
Am I right?
No, you wanted to get married, I'm pretty sure.
I did, and then I did get married.
I am married, so it already happened.
Like a bloody, I couldn pretty sure. I did, and then I did get married. I am married, so it already happened. Like a bloody...
I couldn't get out of it bloody.
She got me in a bloody... I got wearing a bloody dog collar.
Do you know what I mean, mate?
Yeah. I'm one of those guys.
I'm that guy now. Bloody ball and chain.
Look at this. You've switched over.
Look at this person I've committed my life to who I
openly hate. What do you think of that, everybody? Is that why you're wearing that t-shirt
that says, I hate my wife? Yes.
Alright, now that'll do it.
Great stuff. Endless source of that, everybody? Is that why you're wearing that T-shirt that says, I hate my wife? Yes. All right, now that'll do it.
Great stuff.
Endless source of comedy, which I appreciate.
I love meeting guys who hate their wife or vice versa.
Happens all the time.
It's crazy.
Anyway, go on.
All right.
Stephen Graham is an English actor.
He's best known.
He's best known for playing Andrew Combo Gascoigne in the film This Is England, and his television sequels. This Is England
86, This Is England 88, and This Is England
90. Disagree. I know
him as Tommy from the movie Snatch. There you go.
This Is England. Is that a series of movies?
Yes. And shows?
Movies and shows, yes. Oh, cool. I've never heard of this.
Other film roles include Tommy
in Snatch, Shang in Gangs of New York,
Babyface Nelson in
Public Enemies. A lot of gangsters.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was Tony Pro in The Irishman.
Oh, okay.
The youngest man in that movie, presumably.
How old was anybody in that movie?
He was Al Capone in Boardwalk Empire.
Okay, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
Because I was like, why would Al Capone be in Peaky Blinders?
Yeah.
He wouldn't.
Yeah. Very interesting. Good on him, I say. I'm going to watch some of these Thisers? Yeah. All right. He wouldn't. Yeah.
Very interesting.
Good on him, I say.
I'm going to watch some of these This Is England movies, I think.
Okay, nice.
There we go.
What were we talking about?
I forgot.
Anyway, yeah, Venom.
Let's have some carnage.
Yes, please.
If we're ready for it.
But again, it's like there's no Spider-Man.
Everyone's a gooey guy.
Sure.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Venom, everyone's a gooey guy. Sure. I don't know. Venom, everyone's a gooey guy?
Yeah.
Because it's like that thing of like Iron Man fights another Iron Man.
It sure is, yeah.
You know what I mean?
It's kind of not very compelling.
So you would prefer that Venom fought like the least gooey guy there is?
Yeah.
A skeleton?
Or a man made of sand.
But I can't think of anybody in the Spider-Man universe
who would fit that particular description.
Yeah, but also that would be the worst combination.
Why?
A gooey guy and a man made of sand.
Yes.
That's why I like it.
And just rolling down the streets of New York,
just tumbling down a flight of stairs and stopping somewhere in the middle
because they've stuck to it.
I'm pretty sure it's set in a different city.
San Francisco? Maybe or it isn't. There's a lot of hills, so it's set in a different city. San Francisco?
Maybe or it isn't.
There's a lot of hills, so it's probably San Francisco.
Yeah, there we go.
Great stuff.
Do you want some casting news for Indiana Jones via deadline?
Yes.
So, Seanette Renee Wilson, who was one of the Dora.
Oh, he's playing Indiana Jones.
That's right.
Whoa.
She was one of the Dora Milaje.
Ah.
She's joined the cast, along with Boyd Holbrook,
who people might know recently he had the robot arm in Logan.
He was also in the worst Predator movie that anybody's ever committed to film.
Yep.
But not that he was bad, isn't it?
Yet.
Yet.
That's right.
There's always a chance for another one.
That's right.
The century is young, as it were.
So, yeah, that makes sense because he's obviously got a working relationship
with James Mangold, who's directing this new one,
which, again, I think is a good idea, et cetera, and so forth.
I'm looking forward to this hopefully being something.
Don't you think?
Yeah.
Yeah, and he's going to wear that hat and we're going to go,
we remember this hat.
We're all remembering this hat.
That song we practiced for the cinema for opening night.
Yes, I do remember that, yes.
It's going to be good, isn't it?
Let's do it.
We're going to commit to it.
No, not the hat.
Not the song.
Okay.
We're going to commit now whether we think it's good.
We haven't seen anything.
This is one of those things that people will message back and they'll say.
Remember that time you said it was going to be good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So James Mangold has done 310 to Yuma.
He's done Logan.
He's done everybody's dad's favorite movie,
Christian Bale's Racing Cars Against the French or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Italians, but yes.
Yes.
There's some French in there probably.
Sure.
Probably.
Driving their Renaults.
Yeah, driving their Renaults.
Driving their weird French bicycles.
What is it?
Good or not?
Let's go.
I think it's going to be good.
How good?
I think it is going to be.
Give me something that's on par with.
Better than Temple of Doom.
Wow.
Yep.
I'm going to say it'll be the fourth best one.
Okay, sure.
No.
But why?
No, okay.
No, you know what?
I'm going to move it.
I'm going to say, yeah, I'm going to agree with you.
I'm going to say better than Temple of Doom.
You can't beat the first one or the third one.
Yep.
Probably.
Probably?
Probably. Let's put it somewhere there.
But I mean, you know, he pulled out a Wolverine movie that was basically the third Wolverine.
Yeah.
And it was the best Wolverine.
Yep, exactly.
And he did, and he's done 310 to Youm, which is a, you know, western period action drama.
And that was good.
Christian Bale had a wooden leg.
In a, you know, a very dead genre.
Yeah.
And that was good.
So probably pretty good. All right. All dead genre. Yeah. That was good. So probably pretty good.
All right.
All right then.
Yeah.
Here we go.
And if it isn't good, I'll eat a big bag of sand.
Wow.
Yeah.
And I'll eat a big bag of goo.
Nice.
Can I specify what type of goo?
Nope.
Just.
Dealer's choice.
Non-descript.
Yep.
Great.
Yeah.
Well, I was meaning more in the sense of a big bag of sand
you would swap for an idol.
Oh, okay.
It's just a coincidence we were talking about sand.
I thought we were doing the other thing.
Nope.
Okay, we were doing a different thing.
Yeah.
Snake Eyes, by now I think there will be a trailer out.
We haven't seen it at time of recording.
I'm so sorry, Mason, and I'm so sorry, listeners,
that we haven't seen the trailer for Snake Eyes.
There was some postage and stuff.
We could watch the Nicolas Cage Snake Eyes movie.
Yeah, that's true.
The whole thing right now.
Come back.
It's about gambling and doesn't he admit to being a bad cop at the end,
not to spoil the movie Snake Eyes or something?
Do you think that's the finale to the movie?
It's just a movie about gambling and at the end he's just sitting
at the craps table or whatever and he's like,
I'm a bad cop, by the way.
And all the people around him are like, this is new information,
but all right, good on you.
No, I think he – I'm going to spoil the movie Snake Eyes.
So he solves a crime, but he's a crooked cop, and at the end they're like,
he's a hero, and then all the stuff comes out about him,
all the shady stuff.
And it's like that's the price you pay when you do a Snake Eyes.
That's what his police chief says to him.
Wow.
Yeah.
Anyway, apparently I was reading into the third G.I. Joe movie
because it's still in the works.
It's called G.I. Joe Ever Vigilant.
I honestly thought you were going to say G.I. Joe Effervescent.
Well, I wish.
We need a team that is deadly.
We need a team that is dedicated.
But they've got to be effervescent.
You know what I mean?
They've got a little spicy something about them.
It's not something I can put my finger on,
but we're going to know it when we see it.
That Duke, he's really bubbly and I like it.
Who do you...
Scarlett's doing jazz hands.
Get her in.
Okay, to answer this for me,
when did the last two G.I. Joe movies come out?
Give me the years, if you could.
2009? That's correct. That's the first one.
When was G.I. Joe Retaliation out?
2011?
2013. I thought you were going to go later.
Yeah, because I didn't realize it had been that long.
It's been eight years since that last one
that wasn't good. Did you watch it?
I must have watched it, yeah.
Because I watched it for Bruce Willis' FFS and Performance.
Oh my God.
Well, his original G.I. Joe.
I saw the poster of that.
He's like right in the middle of it.
Yeah.
Like more so than The Rock or Channing Tatum.
He's right in the middle,
and I feel like that's not something they do now.
They wouldn't put him in the middle of a poster with those people in it.
No.
No.
Because, you know.
All the Bruce Willis stuff.
All the things that he is.
That we've mentioned any number of times in this podcast.
That's right. Speaking of all. He does some decent stuff in that one things that he is. That we've mentioned any number of times in this podcast. That's right.
Speaking of all. He does a lot.
He does some decent stuff in that one, if I recall.
Yeah.
Maybe he's on the back of a car or something.
I bet we watch it.
Shooting a gun.
I bet we watch it again and we go, oh, this is actually quite honed in.
Well, I mean, there is also definitively like a bunch of scenes where they're just in a
house, like maybe sitting on a couch.
I think it's his house.
Yeah, it used to be G.I.
Joe.
But now I'm.
Bruce Willis.
But I'll do G.I. Joe again for you guys.
That's right.
In front of this green screen.
Yeah.
Howard Stern.
Speaking of old, irrelevant people.
Go on.
He's probably fine.
I don't know.
You're one of those guys who were like, I love Howard back in the day.
He'd get people on and anyone would say anything and it was like a party time.
Baba Booey.
That's right.
That's one of the guys that was always on there who'd say Baba Booey.
Look, I'm cutting to this guy.
He's always here.
What's his name?
Oh, there's a girl here.
She's here to cramp our style.
You know what I mean?
Chicks, am I right, boys?
Howard Stern, stop being so outrageous.
We have them here as well.
We have these people in Australia as well.
He's very groundbreaking and whatever.
And the movie Private Parts, probably, which I haven't seen. Anyway, Emily Blunt was on Howard Stern. Oh, it's still going. It's still groundbreaking and whatever. And the movie Private Parts probably, which I haven't seen.
Anyway, Emily Blunt was on Howard Stern.
Oh, it's still going.
It's still going, yeah.
I was not expecting that.
That's a curveball.
Believe it.
Fantastic Four.
She was asked about Fantastic Four casting and she said,
because for those people who don't know, people like John Krasinski,
Mr Fantastic, Emily Blunt, Ms Fantastic.
That's right.
Thank you very much.
She said that is fan casting. No one has ever received a phone call.
That's just people saying, wouldn't that be great?
It's not that it's beneath
me. I love Iron Man and when I got off of Black Widow
I was obsessed
with Iron Man. I wanted to work with Robert
Downey Jr. It would have been amazing but I know
but I don't know if superhero movies
for me. She was also contracted
to be found out to Gulliver's Travel found out, to Gulliver's Travels,
the movie Gulliver's Travels.
Did that come out?
Yes, it was Jack Black.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Gulliver's Travels.
You're thinking of the 90s Ted Danson telly series.
I was thinking of that, yeah.
Travelers.
Travelers in Australia is beers you take on the road with you, isn't it?
That's right.
You're like, I'm walking to the pub, you want a traveler?
Fuck yeah, I want a traveler.
It'd be called Gaz's Travelers. That's right. You're like, I'm walking to the pub, you want a traveller? Fuck yeah, I want a traveller. It'd be called Gaz's Travellers.
That's right.
Gaz's Travellers? Gaz's, yeah, it'd be
Gaz's. Then it'd become Gaz's.
Yeah. Yeah.
Then Dickhead. It'd be called Dickhead's
Travellers.
Better take two.
Yeah, better take two.
Two for the road.
They're not up in my alley.
I don't like them.
This is comic book movies.
I really don't.
It's been...
So she liked the Iron Man ones, but she doesn't like...
She liked the first one.
Ah, I remember.
It's been exhausted.
We're inundated.
It's not all the movies.
It's the endless TV shows as well.
Gee, she's gone on a real tear.
It's not to say that I never want to play one.
It's just that you have to be something so cool
and like a really cool character.
And then I'd be interested.
Sounds to me like she's been given, she's definitely Invisible Woman
and she's been, Kevin Feige's written this script
where she absolutely decries superhero movies
and how they're all terrible.
Do you reckon?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Okay.
I'll eat a bag of sand if it's not the case.
Wow, I don't eat a bag of goo.
Is that what we're doing?
Yep.
Is this a different metaphor that you've come up with?
This is different.
So yeah, for me it is a bag of sand, for you it is a bag
of goo, yes. Okay, good, good, good. Alright, cool.
So. That's interesting that she would
It sounds to me like she's not involved.
The one thing, also
for me personally, it's kind
of dull to pick those two.
Nothing against them. Right. I just
think it's not very interesting.
But wouldn't you think at the very
least the idea of that they're a married couple in real life and in the movie, like wouldn't that provide a fun little dynamic? Do you think it's not very interesting. But wouldn't you think at the very least the idea of that they're a married couple
in real life and in the movie, like wouldn't that provide a fun little dynamic?
Don't you think that would come off on screen maybe?
You know, it's one of those scenarios where you think you've turned me around
but I'm digging my heels in.
Just because?
Yeah.
No, look, that's a very good point to be fair.
But maybe it's just that we've been hearing about it for at least half a decade.
Yes.
At least.
Oh, yeah.
So I'm just like, whatever, like really at this point.
But if they did get cast, I wouldn't be upset.
Sure.
Do you know what I mean?
But I'm kind of like some left of center stuff.
Do you know what I mean?
You know when they cast someone and you're like, oh, that's very interesting.
Well done.
Okay.
Howard Stern.
Yeah.
And the guy that goes Baba Booey as Mr Fantastic and the Invisible Woman.
That's very interesting.
Very interesting, right?
Hey, we got Dr Doom.
He's just outside the window and we think he's got a big laser gun.
Baba Booey.
We think he's got a big laser gun.
We're not 100%.
Well, that Baba Booey indicated that he needed more information.
Okay, good stuff
I guess, speaking of Emily Blunt
I just needed to bring this up
You know what, I'll talk about this later because there's been some
magical stuff that I want to talk about
What's the one, the rock and they're in a boat together
Tiny tugboat
Jungle Cruise
Jungle Cruise, thank you, I was writing tiny tugboat
Jungle boat, no Here we go was riding Tiny Tugboat.
Jungle Boat, no.
Here we go.
Okay, so Black Widow news.
Apparently this movie has been finished for a year.
Okay.
It's out, I want to say next month. June.
June, late May, maybe here.
So it's been, yeah, in the can for a year, ready to go.
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
David Harbour actually posted a tweet that said,
Ursa, Yelena, Nat, CD, Sputnik and I
and the rest of the Winter Guard
look forward to sharing a popcorn bag
and a big old screen in the dark theatres
with you on July 9
So Winter Guard are making an appearance
it turns out in some form
who are the Russian Avengers
Ah, wouldn't it just
aren't they the Winter Guard, isn't that what he's saying?
I don't know if they are, it says, and the rest of the Winter Guard.
So we'll be seeing other.
Who knows what we'll get.
I'm saying, yeah.
Maybe we'll see a Crimson Dynamo, like the Russian Iron Man.
Titanium Man, also the Russian Iron Man.
Yeah, wow.
Just a bunch of Russian Iron Man.
Borscht Boy.
Russian Iron Man.
That's right.
He was turned into Borscht.
Oh.
And then they put him in a suit.
Is he okay? He's sloshing about, but he's all right. That's all right. Just don't. And then they put him in a suit. Is he okay?
He's sloshing about, but he's all right.
That's all right.
Just don't open that suit.
Don't open the suit.
It's going to smell bad.
He's going to pour out of the bottom of it.
Go down a drain.
Go down a drain, yeah.
You don't need it.
You don't need it.
So there you go.
Yep.
Yeah, that's still coming out, I think, as are other things.
Speaking of.
Go on.
They've changed some stuff for Shang-Chi and Free Guys over at Disney
and Jungle Cruise.
I think Jungle Cruise is now coming direct to streaming same day.
Okay.
Which is like the biggest movie ever, et cetera, and so forth.
You know, they built the biggest set ever or whatever.
Oh, right.
And that's been on the shelf for maybe two years now
because I think they initially pushed it back.
And Shang-Chi and Free Guys are going to have a 45-day theatrical window.
And then it will probably go to streaming.
Is that what they're saying?
Yes.
Okay, cool.
So there you go.
Well, I mean, if you can safely go to a cinema where you are, do that.
Otherwise?
45 days, not so long.
45 days.
God, movies would – it was so long.
Like a movie was at the cinema for 100 years and then you'd wait another 100 years for
it to come to VHS and then it would be out.
Yeah.
And you went to rent it.
That's right.
You know?
Mm-hmm.
So this is just strange times.
You know what I mean?
Oh, my God.
Shang-Chi would have come on like maybe like a red VHS.
Mm.
Some gold lettering on it.
Yeah.
Oh, tremendous.
Did you see how Shang-Chi and-
So Iron Man probably would have as well.
Yeah, definitely.
Would it have like a big arc reactor in the middle?
Of the clamshell that you brought it in, like the Ninja Turtles.
Oh, you know what?
You'd flip it over.
Yeah.
And the tourney bits would be, they'd be like arc reactors.
Sick.
Yeah.
That's sick.
Yeah, yeah.
I like that.
And it'd be filled with borscht.
Oh, I don't like that as much.
That wouldn't work, would it?
No. So, yes, I think Shang-C it'd be filled with borscht. Oh, I don't like that as much. That wouldn't work, would it? No.
So, yes, I think Shang-Chi and the Eternals,
because Chloe Zhao has spoken openly against China.
She was born there, but she's like, hey, a lot of stuff that's going on here sucks.
And apparently people in China aren't really happy with Shang-Chi.
There's a lot of like this is pandering.
I haven't seen it yet.
Well, that, I know.
But they're like and the Mandarin stuff is like offensive and whatever
because it was a Fu Manchu character.
Now you're upset about the pandering China.
You know what?
They've reached peak pandering.
That's the problem.
Could you please stop putting out pop stars in your movies for brief scenes
where they show up and they give the actual heroes some advice
or like they go down this alleyway?
Yeah.
Great.
It's really good.
We're sick of it, quite frankly.
It's soway. Yeah. Great. It's really good. We're sick of it, quite frankly. It's a soul way.
Yeah.
But, yeah, so there's only like a handful of movies,
US movies that can be released in China,
and those two aren't on the list at the moment.
Okay.
Which is like, it's the biggest movie market in the world, et cetera.
And like it won't kill either of those movies
if they don't end up being released there.
As long as the true fans watch them.
I heard also.
A thousand times each.
Yes, that's right.
I saw also that there were complaints that the leads in Shang-Chi
weren't traditionally good looking.
I'm like, I don't know what's good looking anymore, man.
I look at those two and I'm like, those two are much better looking than me.
How ugly am I?
But you only mean combined.
Individually, they're not as good looking as you,
but when you put them together.
Like a Voltron of handsomeness.
That's right.
Okay, cool.
So there you go.
We'll see what happens there.
But in all honesty, it doesn't affect me at all,
and I don't give a shit at all.
James, you could have been rating every –
we've done like 385 episodes or something.
Yeah.
At this point, it's only at this point that you include
the system of this doesn't affect me personally at all.
You could have been doing that from episode one. I thought it was implied that system of this doesn't affect me personally at all. You could have been doing that from episode one.
I thought it was implied that all of this doesn't affect me personally at all.
Except when there's a trailer released and it ruins my day.
Oh, yeah.
Knives Out 2 got some casting.
Ready for this?
Go on, yes.
Dave Bautista.
Dave Bautista.
Yeah.
Edward Norton.
Oh, Mr. Norton.
And Catherine Hahn.
Oh, very good.
Yeah, that's a good list.
It's a good list as of so far, early days obviously.
Did you see Dave Bautista was like,
I'm only going to do Drax probably one more time
than I'm retiring the Drax.
And he's like, they should have leaned into more of the destroyer of Drax.
He also said that.
And he also said that he hates doing it because of all the makeup and stuff.
Ah, yeah, right.
Well, I mean, that's an actor's arc.
You know, it happened with Mystique.
Yep.
Both Rebecca Romijn and Jennifer Lawrence.
Where they're like, I'm young and I want to, you know,
increase my star power and I want to do this role
because I think it's good.
And so they sit in the chair for 10 hours for all the body paint
and what have you.
And then the next one they're like, can I just wear a sock?
Yeah.
Just a body stocking with it on.
And then the next time they're like, I'm going to be in like a leather costume
up to the neck and then maybe you can paint my face blue.
Yeah, maybe.
And then that's what happens because they're like,
I could be making more money in a more substantial role somewhere else
and I don't have to do it.
I can dress like a normal human.
Yeah, exactly.
And also even though she's like, I'm mutant and proud
and I love being a mutant by the third movie,
she's just like, I'm just Jennifer Lawrence-ing this.
Yes.
I'm not doing anything beyond that.
Also, I want to be murdered by a house.
That's true, yeah.
That's what happens.
Remember, she gets stabbed by that house?
I remember.
So that's good stuff.
So, yeah, look, I completely understand that.
Why would anybody want to do that for like two months straight
or whatever it is?
Yeah.
But I feel like you'd be able to CGI that,
put him in a mocap and like.
Yeah, no, at this point.
They do it with vision.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I guess it'd be cost.
That's what it would come down to, I'd imagine.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Well, I mean, I imagine what they could do is they could do,
they could put him in
like a long sleeve shirt
yeah
that has the
you know the patterns on it
and then they could just
tweak it in
yeah
I watched the behind the scenes
for Falcon and the Winter Soldier
where they talk about the arm
where it's rubber
and they can kind of take out
they can take out the rubber
like when he bends at the elbow
he's got a rubber kink
yeah
and they can take it out
yeah
and smooth it out
so it looks like an actual
rubber arm
make the whole thing rubber
just a big rubbery arm.
That's right, yeah.
That's what we want.
Yeah, that's good stuff.
Did you see?
And I know you did because we already talked about it.
There's a He-Man reboot.
Kevin Smith is working on it as the showrunner and writer.
Snooch to the Nooch.
It looks Snooch to the Nooch, doesn't it?
It does.
It genuinely looks really good.
Genuinely looks what?
Snooch to the Nooch.
Thank you.
Yeah.
It's all he asks.
It's got Mark Hamill in it, Liam Heddy's in it.
It's a good cast.
Snooch to the Nooch, et cetera.
Honestly, like I wasn't really sure what this was going to be
because I thought is this like going to be in this style of like She-Ra?
It's going to be like because it's supposed to be maybe a sequel
to the original cartoon.
So I'm like are we going back to that and making it like a goofy kind
of Birdman kind of
But it looks very sincere I think
Yeah, it kind of looks like the 2002
2003 version but like
honestly it looked
I don't know if it's still in images but it looked really impressive
so we'll see. Won't we?
Did you hear? Because somebody thought
you know detractors would say
it might have been
you know Jason Lee puts his hand down his pants and then he does a real dirty handshake
with a man.
It's actually snooch to the nooch.
Exactly.
Which I think is good.
I agree.
Was it Jason Lee?
It was Moratz.
It was Moratz.
It was Jason Lee, yeah.
Yeah, I know a couple of guys in my school did that to the principal.
Whoa.
When you say a couple of guys. No, it was not me. I would not put my hand in my school did that to the principal. When you say a couple of guys?
No, it was not me.
I would not put my hand in my own butt crack.
I just wouldn't do it.
I'm not about that life.
Apparently Kevin Smith lives in constant fear.
Okay, but what if your family was in danger
and you had to put your hand in your own butt crack
and give somebody a dirty handshake?
Yeah, then of course I would.
Yeah, that's what I thought, yeah.
What do you mean?
I'm saying, you know, you're not committed to it.
That's all I'm saying.
There you go, your principles, you know.
Look, anybody would do that.
All that would happen is your family were in danger.
If the movie taken.
James, if your family were in danger, I would not do that.
But listen to me.
Anybody would do it.
If Liam Neeson was like, you know, he was rescuing his daughter
and he got to the boss and the boss was like,
put your hand in your butt crack and give me a handshake and I'll let her go. He'd do it. If Liam Neeson was like, you know, he was rescuing his daughter and he got to the boss and the boss was like, put your hand in your butt cracker
and give me a handshake and I'll let her go.
He'd do it.
He'd do it, Mason. If it was his only option.
He'd put his really long arm behind his back.
He's probably got a really long butt crack.
You know what I mean? No, he's really old
so it'd be a very short one. Would it?
Doesn't it stretch out? I don't think so.
Low hanging butt? I don't know.
Anyway. Anyway, this is all don't know. Yeah. Anyway.
Anyway, this is all Snooch to the Nooch.
Lower, lower.
I have a certain set of skills.
They're Snooch to the Nooch.
Noah said.
James, what you discovered both doing this podcast
and what I was just doing then is eventually Snooch to the Nooch
loses all meaning.
I'm like, am I using the term Snooch to the Nooch correctly?
I don't really know.
It's a good thing, right?
Or bad.
Wow.
Which one's Snoochie Boochies?
Is that good?
It's a different thing.
They're both good or bad.
Yeah.
Yeah, what I was saying before, like, yeah, Kevin Smith is like,
people greet him like that and I think he lives in constant fear
because he invented this thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I assume he invented it.
Noah Centino, you remember him? What. Noah Centino?
You remember him?
What?
Noah Centino.
Who's that?
He's in like all the boys I've loved before, whatever,
all the girls I've loved before.
He's this fucking guy.
This guy, you know him. Yeah, no, show me the tiny thumb out.
I don't recognise him.
You do recognise him.
I'm very sorry, I don't know who that is.
Recognise him, Mason.
I don't know who that is. I'm going, Mason. I don't know who that is.
I'm going to go to images and you're going to...
Anyway, he was He-Man.
The voice of He-Man.
No, he was going to be He-Man in the live action.
Live action He-Man, okay.
He just dropped out.
You don't recognise this guy?
Let's have a look.
He's on every movie in Netflix.
You opened in the Netflix original, he's in it.
He looks like a Jesse.
Like, you know, one of those early 2000s Jesses.
One of them Jesses. Yeah, yeah. He's not one of those. Okays Jessies. One of them Jessies.
Yeah, yeah.
He's not one of those.
Okay, that's a shame.
He's a newer man.
He's not a being he-man anymore.
Golden Globes are under fire.
That's right.
Tom Cruise gave back his Golden Globes or something.
That's right.
Those meaningless trinkets.
He didn't give back any of his money, did he?
No, I assume so.
I don't know.
What do you know of the Golden Globes?
Do you want to break it down?
All I know about the Golden Globes is they seem to be,
they've always seemed to me to be an excuse for the, like,
Hollywood Foreign Press Association to meet celebrities.
Isn't that the whole deal?
They just, it seems like it's always been a case of they all just get together
and go, what celebrities would we like to meet?
Oh, we want to meet Johnny Depp?
All right, well, let's nominate him for best musical or comedy.
And then he comes over and they go, oh, good to meet you, Johnny Depp.
Thank you.
Well, you stink palm to you, Johnny Depp.
Good to meet you.
That's right.
Well, he got them.
Whoa.
Yeah.
So they've been criticized.
Also, the awards are meaningless, like most awards,
and they just go to weird movies and they've got weird categories.
And I think I read also that like you don't get paid
if you're a part of this association, but they do get a lot of money
and then that money does get distributed,
but they're not getting paid.
It's just shared among friends.
Just get shared among friends for various expenses.
Money for what though?
Don't know.
Like who's giving them the money?
The Hollywood Foreign Press Association. But where do giving them the money? The Hollywood Foreign Press Association.
But where do they get the money?
Goldie Globe.
That's the mascot.
And by mascot, I mean deity.
Oh, okay.
He's at the top of a set of golden stairs.
And he throws money.
Money down, yeah.
Okay.
And why does he do any of that?
Just as a boon to his worshippers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, cool.
Okay.
Well, this sounds great.
Anyway, they've been criticizedised over a lack of diversity
and unethical practices for years.
Scarlett Johansson recently said there are sexist questions
and remarks by certain HFPA members that brought on sexual harassment.
Tom Cruise, as you mentioned, handed back his three awards in protest.
Jerry Maguire brought on the 4th of July and Magnolia.
Oh.
Do you send them back?
Do you package them up?
Or do you just like denounce them?
No, you do like a.
You take the Top Gun jet.
What you do is you get like a bin out in your backyard and you light a fire in the bin.
And then you set your phone up in portrait mode and you take a video of you chucking
your Golden Globes in the burning bin.
And you go, yeah.
Got them.
Yeah, that's right.
Got them.
Chuck in your Nikes.
Throw those in there.
Yeah, exactly.
And whatever the latest restaurant is that you them, yeah, that's right. Chuck in your Nikes, throw those in there. Yeah, exactly.
Whatever the latest restaurant is that you're upset at.
That's right.
Bow that you'll never go back, et cetera.
NBC also, this is the final nail in the coffin for now.
Whoa.
They said we're not going to screen this anymore.
Okay.
And they said, assuming the organization executes its plan,
because its plan is to make improvements,
we are hopeful we'll be in position to air the show in January of 2023.
So there you go.
Whoa.
Can we survive without two years of the Golden Globes?
I don't know.
I want another classic Ricky Gervais, oh, celebrities, stop,
stop cancel culture, you know.
Yeah, a bit of that.
That bit that he does.
Sure.
So, yeah.
Again.
Have you seen that video of Gary Shandling just destroying Ricky Gervais?
I have, yes.
Ricky Gervais shows up at Gary Shandling.
The late, great Gary Shandling says,
he just shows up, suddenly going through his cupboards.
Yeah.
And Gary Shandling's just like, you're bad and I hate you.
In various ways for about ten minutes.
And look, to be fair, I have so much of a Kijibai stuff that I genuinely do like.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
And then the other stuff, you're offended, obviously.
Yeah, it's too edgy.
It's like, ooh, I could be an attack helicopter.
You know that joke that everybody does?
I love that joke.
Yeah, it's good.
It's a really good joke.
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Spiral.
Yes.
It came back to theaters, the Saw franchise.
That's right.
Darren Lynn Bozeman, he directed Saw II, Saw III, and Saw IV.
Returned to helm.
It made $9 million in the US opening weekend,
which is slightly below the expectations of $10 million to $15 million,
but that's not a terrible return considering also it's a $20 million budget.
And it's just about, for me, what you think the story was.
Oh, James.
We're going to do non-spoilers, then spoilers for this movie, but it's Saw.
It's Saw.
So have you seen a Saw?
So it's about there's a cop.
He's a cop on the edge.
He's a cop on the edge in a way that cops haven't been on the edge
since the 90s in a lot of ways.
It's crazy how badly that guy's on the edge.
It's like it's a Predator 2 city.
It's a hot city on the edge.
Yeah, it is, isn't it?
It's incredible.
And just cops swinging about with their shoulder holsters
and their undone ties and they're all sweating.
It's insanity.
Sweating to the oldies.
And one of the things that I found very unique about this movie
and the sweat, they're doing the underarm sweat,
but they're doing the neck sweat, like a bib of sweat.
I'm like, I've never seen this kind of sweat in cinema.
I was thinking the whole time, he's going to have to wring his tie out
when he gets home, just wring the sweat out of the top of his tie.
Yuck.
Yucky.
Anyway, cops, there are all sorts of cops.
There are various cops on various edges in this city.
But then some murders happen.
Who is it?
Is it Jigsaw?
No, they mention that he's dead and he's died in previous movies.
Probably a different guy then.
And it turns out to be a different guy.
Lo and behold.
No spoilers except for that, I guess.
But there's no indication that it's going to be Jigsaw Reader.
No, that's true.
What a twist, though.
Do you think that would?
No.
No, I meant what if it was?
What if it was?
Because this could have been their opportunity to be like,
because you know how a lot of film, like horror franchises,
they go magic.
And they'll bring back whatever.
I didn't think they'd do that.
I thought they could have maybe ignored some stuff. They don't't ignore but you don't have to know anything that's true
to go into this yeah there's no like and apparently this came about because chris rock is a big fan of
the saw franchise he wanted to do his own take on it and so he sort of which explains how it was
only 20 million dollars like i imagine chris rock could have demanded a lot more money like
20 million dollars could have been his entire salary,
but clearly he's taken a cut in order to make this happen.
Yeah.
And it's very, you know, he wanted to be very true to the source material.
Source material.
Perfect.
Thanks.
How about this?
Source sorterial.
Source sorterial.
That's good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But.
But.
I feel like had I not known that that i think i looked it up afterwards
but i kind of went in and i went this could just be a a different could be anything it could be
anything it didn't feel it could be a straight to dvd seven it didn't especially feel like a
saw movie and like the saw traps in this are not this isn't as, and again, I have a gap.
I've seen Saw 1, 2, 3.
I've seen Jigsaw.
Yep.
But I've missed the middle arc.
Yeah.
But these traps are a lot less grisly, I feel like.
They're less spectacular.
Yeah, I don't think they're, if you go into this for the traps
or you love that YouTube compilation of all the traps,
I don't think a lot of, there's some big highlights in this.
Yeah, but I feel like a lot of these traps could have been replaced
just by they find a dead body.
You know what I mean?
It felt like this could have, this feels just like we're looking
for a serial killer in the hot, hot streets of whatever city this is.
That's the movie.
Yeah.
It feels like, it feels to me – because you saw this before me
and I messaged you and I said, does this feel like just a police procedural
and they've slapped –
And what did I say?
I think you said nah.
I think you said it feels like a Saw movie.
Well, yeah, because of all the traps.
Maybe we spoke in real life.
But I was like – I went in –
I can't remember what I said.
When I came out of this, I'm like, this just feels like it could be
a police procedural.
No, you're absolutely right.
And it doesn't feel particularly Saw-like.
There's very little connection to the previous movies.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know if maybe there was more in earlier drafts,
but for convenience sake they had to cut some stuff out.
Sure, yeah.
I couldn't find the message.
I mean, I can't enjoy it.
Yeah, it's fine.
In all honesty, it's like, I think't enjoy it. Yeah, it's fine, in all honesty. It's like
I think as a police procedural, like
it's pretty standard. It feels a little
bit dated. Yeah. Yeah. Which I
don't necessarily think is a bad thing. It's a good old
fashioned cop drama, but what I kind
of liked and didn't like is
Chris Rock is constantly like
I've got a bullet in my back. I'm the only
good cop in this goddamn precinct.
Everybody's trying to shoot me all the time. Don't you fucking look at me. I'll kill everybody I know and I hate got a bullet in my back, I'm the only good cop in this goddamn precinct Everybody's trying to shoot me all the time
Don't you fucking look at me, I'll kill everybody I know
And I hate being a cop, my dad's a cop
None of you guys are cops, I'm a cop
And people are like, this guy's fucking intense, man
We should have got this guy killed
We should have, why haven't we all transferred out of this precinct?
Because I'm not going to let anybody, my dad's the chief of police
Nobody's going anywhere.
So his dad is Samuel L. Jackson, his former chief of police.
My dad's Samuel L. Jackson.
It was nice to see.
It was sort of a different take because these guys seem very much proactive
in terms of, like, tracking down a Jigsaw-esque killer.
That's true.
And also the same age.
Maybe, yeah.
Chris Rock would have to be nearly 60, right?
No, I reckon he's 50.
I reckon he's 58.
Okay, great.
Let's find out.
56.
Oh, wow, okay.
Seminole Jackson would be early 70s.
Oh, he looks incredible.
Yeah, I wonder.
He's 72.
There you go.
That's great.
There you go.
Where was I going with this? You wonder. I did wonder. But maybe I didn't wonder. He's 72. There you go. So you're right. There you go. Where was I going with this?
You wonder.
I did wonder.
But maybe I didn't wonder.
Maybe I was just filling for time.
Father and son team.
No.
Oh, this exists in a universe in which there have been many Saw copycats,
apparently.
Yeah, I think that's referring to the previous Saw copycats as well.
Oh, okay, right, right, right.
Because they mention some names where, like,
if you know anything about Saw, it's like, remember this,
we remember you, but don't think about it.
But it also felt kind of like, ugh, another one.
Yeah.
Like it's a universe in which there have been a great deal of these guys.
I also feel like, as mentioned, the saw traps are fine
and as is per usual as well, they're completely inescapable,
like most of them.
Well, see, that's why I felt like.
I'm like, these are just murders again, aren't they? Yeah, see, that's why I felt like. I'm like, these are just murders again, aren't they?
Yeah, see, that's why I felt like they could have been swapped.
And some of them don't work.
They could have just been swapped out for a guy showing up
and shooting somebody and leaving and they find the body.
It's the same thing.
Like they are all technically escapable if you immediately escape from them.
Yes.
If you immediately make the decision to escape.
I don't know if that's a spoiler.
Yeah, I guess so because there's one where it tears your fingers off.
You choose to tear your fingers off
and the machine stalls at one point
and he ends up dying. I'm like, this
was never going to...
They're just murders again. But I think
you're right. In Seven,
they show up and they find something
and then you might get a flashback to that thing
or whatever. I can't really remember. But yeah, it could
have been just you show up to a horrific murder.
But that's not a Saw movie, is it, Mason?
That's what I'm talking about.
Saw is nothing without the traps.
You need a funny voice.
You need a pig mask.
You need a little mannequin.
They changed the mannequin.
They did change the mannequin.
It's true.
Yeah, because the Saw killer in this doesn't like police officers
because of corruption.
I think that might be a spoiler.
Is it?
They say it at the start.
Oh, okay, right.
Because the first guy he captures is a cop and he's like,
you're a corrupt police officer and I don't like you.
Okay, cool.
I don't like you.
Do you want to do spoilers, I guess?
Yes.
Okay, I didn't think this was the worst movie ever.
It was honestly fine.
I sat there and then the twist happened and I went, yeah, I know,
because I figured it out 20 minutes ago.
That's true, yes.
And because it was just a process of elimination.
See, this is the thing, because this week we were like,
you know, we were sort of up in the air.
I also was like, should I message you and say,
should we see Wrath of Man instead?
But then I'm like.
Which was that again?
Jason Statham and he's the.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's the world's best.
Assassin or something.
No, he's the world's best like security guy.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Yeah, and it's a new guy, Richie.
But then I'm like, because we've been talking about the Saw movies,
I'm like, may as well roll into this new one.
Why not?
Is Wrath of Man actually out at cinemas?
Oh, cool.
Yeah, I do want to see that.
Let's do it.
Maybe we'll do it next week.
All right, yeah.
Well, we've got Army of the Dead next week or whatever it is.
Oh, yeah.
That's going to be interesting.
Anyway, I'm going to say best movie ever.
I had a pretty solid time.
It's not the worst movie ever, is it?
Oh, Mason. It's probably not even the worst Saw movie. I couldn't tell ever. I had a pretty solid time. It's not the worst movie ever, is it? Oh, Mason.
It's probably not even the worst Saw movie.
I couldn't tell you because I haven't seen them all.
But, yeah, it's probably better than two.
So, yeah, sure.
But it's the least Saw-feeling Saw movie, which is a shame.
I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, though.
I think they were trying for something different here,
which is not terrible.
But also I think if you want to return to form,
because it has been a few years since the last one,
I feel like you really need to make an impact.
And this was not as impactful.
Yeah, saw-packed full.
Saw-packed full.
There are so many moments in this where the killer delivers a little box
to the police precinct and people are just like,
oh, see what's in this.
Really?
Is that what you're going to do that?
This saw killer?
Sometimes they wear gloves, sometimes they don't.
Yeah, sometimes everybody just crowds around the box.
Someone's like, it's a bomb.
And they're like, it could be a bomb, but let's open it.
It's never a bomb.
How about don't open it?
Yeah, don't open it.
Spoiler alert.
Spoilers for this movie.
Yeah.
How early in this movie did you figure out who the killer was?
As soon as the, well, actually pretty early on.
So he gets a new partner and it's the guy from The Handmaid's Tale
and he's like, I love being a good cop and I love your,
and your dad is the reason that I became a police officer.
I'm like, that's very suspicious.
And then later in the movie he dies and disappears,
but he's not shown to be crooked in any sense.
So I'm like, well, he doesn't fit the profile of the killers.
Because he's not crooked.
He's a nice cop by all accounts.
Which means he's definitely the killer.
You also hear like a fake baby crying noise at one point,
which is part of his whatever because he invents a family.
And did you know it was a fake baby already?
Yeah, I could tell.
Oh.
Well, I thought this is either a fake baby.
A faby.
A faby or.
Is that where the term kayfaby comes from?
That's right.
I don't know what that means.
It's a wrestling term.
Then yes.
Or this is just a poor audio edit.
Oh, well, maybe, yeah.
Well, when I figured it out, he did mention that it was the reason why he,
Sam Jackson was the reason he joined the police force.
Yes.
But then there was a point where he's like, my phone's died.
Can I borrow your phone, Chris Rock?
And I'm like, he's the killer then, isn't isn't he i mean nobody's got to charge it come on
yeah come on is it that urgent come on jack he's obviously gonna he's gonna he's gonna use your
phone for nefarious purposes for crime purposes but you know like his motivations were like i
bought into that more than i guess jigsaw i'm like i can understand more while why he's doing this
and jigsaw is doing it but i feel like there there were some, again, if you're going to do that,
that's fine, but I figure there were some odd plot holes
that are born from that.
Like, for example, at the end of the movie,
he has captured Sam Jackson.
Yes.
And he's draining all his blood out and he's like, listen.
He was barely in this movie, by the way, Sam Jackson.
Yeah, you got two options.
He's done the Bruce Willis.
Yeah.
Like, I'll be in two scenes.
Yeah.
I'll be in this apartment scene so I can sit on the Willis. Like, I'll be in two scenes. Yeah.
I'll be in this apartment scene so I can sit on the couch and I'll be strung up for Atlas.
Yeah, I'll take care of that, though, because I just have this.
So at the end, the killer is like, okay, you've got two options.
One, you can shoot this target and it will bring your father down
and he won't die.
I mean, he probably will because he's like two minutes
from having all the blood drained out of his body.
So what are you going to do?
You're going to spit all the blood back in his mouth?
What are you going to do?
It's like a snake bite.
But also, but option two is kill me.
Kill you.
Kill me, the killer.
You've only got one bullet.
Yeah, but if you shoot the target and that,
then you've agreed to join me on my mission of identifying bad cops and then I'll kill the bad cops.
How are you going to cover up the dad thing?
Yeah, exactly.
Like what are you – does dad also agree with this?
Also you can –
Like is he going to – because then I'll have to kill him anyway.
You could shoot the guy and pull all the needles out of him.
Yep, that's true.
Yeah.
I found that so funny where there's a moment so Sam Jackson
he's not, because like as soon as you walk into that room
I'm like there's something else going on
with this trap other than just the blood
getting taken out of him because he's strung up
like it looks like he's going to
get his limbs torn off and I'm like oh this is
the limbs tearing off machine
and when the SWAT team storm in to be like
stop doing a saw in here
we're sick of it.
You guys better knock it off.
Knock it off in there.
Sam Jackson gets shot.
I will turn this SWAT team around.
Wait, that's what he wants.
I'll never turn it around.
Sam Jackson gets pulled up like a marionette.
Just a look on his face like, what?
And he's got a gun.
And he's the puppet and he's got a gun and he gets shot
and I thought that was really funny.
It was pretty funny.
Yeah, and the music is swelling and it's like,
do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do, and he's like, wah!
The signature Saw theme which they've kept until the end, I guess.
Exactly, and then he goes,
bah, I'm on this elevator and I'm escaping until the next movie.
Yeah, he was like, you can try to shoot me
but I've got a flawless exit strategy,
which was scuffle with Chris Rock on the ground for a bit
and then leave, just get in the elevator and leave.
Is that your flawless?
It's a pretty good plan.
It's perhaps way less elaborate this time around.
Yeah, I thought the pulling off fingers one was pretty elaborate.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The wax one I feel like also wouldn't work
because it's like sever your neck and the wax will stop pouring.
How?
Right?
How does that work?
Yeah, right?
I just don't think like do you slam down on the blade
and the blade presses a button, I guess?
Yeah, maybe, yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Anyway.
I had pretty good fun with it.
Yeah, whatever, man, I guess.
Would you watch another one?
Yeah, I guess.
Okay.
I mean, I'd rather watch it at home, if I'm honest.
Yeah.
I don't want to go out of my way to see any of these.
Yeah. Also,'t want to go out of my way to see any of these. Yeah.
Also, what did he need?
Like, he was like, I need you to identify the bad cops
and then I'm going to kill all the bad cops.
You're doing that already.
You're doing pretty good, actually.
I mean, you could have.
He should have just said, I need a friend.
Yeah.
I need someone who's willing to kill their dad.
If you didn't fake your own death,
we could have just kept doing this forever
because I'd be in the police department and I would have access to the police computers
and I would have been able to talk to all the bad cops and be like,
hey, you a bad cop?
And they'd be like, hell yeah, I'm a bad cop.
I love being a bad cop.
It's what I do.
And then he'd be like, hope you don't get killed by the Saw killer.
That's what I hope because I'm not the Saw killer.
You're under arrest.
Just kidding.
I'm going to kill you in a Saw trap.
Really elaborate.
I mean a spiral trap.
Spiral trap, sorry.
Do you think they missed a trick here not calling it Saw?
I think they missed a trick that he didn't dress up as Spyro the dragon.
Yeah, that's probably correct.
Yeah.
Imagine that.
He's coming into scenes.
Yeah, that would be good.
His face is cut out so you can see his face in the neck of the costume.
Yeah, I know it's called like Spiral from the Book of Saw
or Open This Book of Saw.
What Book of Saw?
The Book of Saw, mate.
Isn't that what it's from?
Yeah, but what's the Book of Saw?
I don't think.
Yeah, it is, but what's the.
I don't know.
There is no Book of Saw to the best of my knowledge.
It's made of skin.
I don't know.
Yeah, okay, great.
Yeah, look, I kind of admire that like they kind of took it
in a different direction.
By that I mean changed the colour palette.
Sure.
But, yeah, it's a pretty standard 90s cop, like Seven clone.
It was a Seven clone, wasn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think.
There was another movie that it reminded me of and I don't think I wrote it down.
Yeah, anyway.
Is it maybe even a case of Chris Rock was like, man, I really love Seven.
I really wish I could do a Seven-esque movie and people are like,
well, that's been done.
We can't do it anymore.
And he's like, what's more recent?
What's more relevant?
Saw movies?
Saw, I guess.
Okay.
Just ask David Fincher to make something with you.
Sure, he'll do it, yeah.
I mean, I would watch Chris Rock in another thing.
I think he's good and he's good in Fargo as well,
that season that I need to finish as well.
Have you finished that season?
Yes.
Cool.
I've got to finish it.
Is that everything?
That's everything, I think.
Anything else happen in the movie Spiral from the Book of Saw?
I don't know, man.
Round and round and round and round.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I struggle to write things down.
Okay, sure.
I was like, what do I remember from this?
All right.
Well, maybe next week we'll watch Wrath of Man.
We'll have a little chat about Wrath of Man. Sure. Yeah, nice. Or Cruella. Cruella. Okay, sure. Like I was like, what do I remember from this? Alright, well maybe next week we'll watch Wrath of Man. We'll have a little chat about Wrath of Man.
Sure. Or Cruella.
Cruella. Cruella.
Cruella. Apparently people are liking it.
Great. Great.
Do you know what it's time for? James, it's time for our famous
segment, What We Read In.
What we gonna read? I've been reading a bunch of Saw stuff
from the Book of Saw. Oh!
Let me just put the theme song in first.
Terrific, and then we can talk about the Book of Saw.
That's right.
I'm doing the theme.
Worst world.
You're right, it is really funny.
You like that one?
Yeah, it's a good one.
Because if I tune out slightly, I forget you're playing a theme.
It's just a man staring silent and then just going,
worst world.
It is pretty good.
What have you been watching, thinking about reading?
The Book of Zormason.
That's not true.
You haven't been doing that.
No, I haven't.
There's a new comic book series which is going to be a crossover event
for Star Wars called Star Wars War of the Bounty Hunters.
Oh.
And it's basically Boba Fett is after he's gotten Han Solo
and he's like, I've captured this guy and I'm going to take him
to Jabba the Hutt.
So this is set in between Empire and Jedi.
But then there's a war of bounty hunters who want Han Solo
for their own purposes.
So, yeah, it's like they did like issue zero or whatever it is,
you know what I mean, as a warm-up.
And it was pretty good.
So I'm going to read all of those, I reckon. I'm going to read every one of them. But, you know, I know how it ends. So I'm going to read all of those, I reckon.
I'm going to read every one of them.
But, you know, I know how it ends.
But I'm going to read all of them.
That's true, yeah.
Is it Boba Fett and all the other famous bounty hunters
or are there some newbies?
There's some new ones as well.
Okay, now is the premise here that you're going to feel
a kinship with the newbies and you're going to feel
either sad when they die or elated when they live?
Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I don't recognise it't recognize it i can't remember but i like you said that is the
only real like if it's anything that's in an in-between call yeah it's like well you know
how it ends so the the the only the it's it's either the the fun of the story that he's going
to end up exactly where you know it's going to end up or it's you you meet some new characters
and you feel something when they...
That's true, yeah. That was one of my
favorite parts of Shadows of the Empire, the comic.
When it's not following the main
storyline, it follows Boba Fett
and he's chased down by like
IG-88 and a bunch of other ones.
And that, to me, is the most interesting.
They should have just made the comic that.
So I guess
this is like a variation on that.
So that's kind of why I'm interested.
And genuinely, like I read it and I'm like, this is pretty good.
Yeah, cool.
What about you?
What did you read from the Book of Saw?
I didn't read anything from the Book of Saw.
Well, you saw Spiral.
So in a way you did.
In a way I did read some very dramatic passages from the Book of Saw.
Well, post-watching Spiral, I'm like, well, I should cleanse the old palate.
So I watched a couple of things.
I watched Girls 5 Ever, which is the –
What's that?
It's an eight-episode series.
I think it's by some 30 Rock people.
Yeah.
Because it has a very 30 Rock vibe.
So it's about –
It's like a Spice Girls-esque.
Yeah, like a Spice Girls-esque band from like the late 90s, mid-2000s.
And they've all – the whole thing was a failure.
You know, it was sort of a false start,
and then they sort of all get back together,
like a series of circumstances bring them together,
and they're like, we will take another crack at this.
It's very funny.
I like the cast.
It's like rude 30 Rock.
Oh, I love a rude 30 Rock.
And I think it is, and the name, the person behind the music,
I think is John Richmond, who is Tina Fey's husband. Oh, okay. And he did the 30 Rock theme music I think is John Richmond
who is Tina Fey's husband.
Oh, okay.
And he did the 30 Rock theme I think.
This all might be nonsense but it seems correct, doesn't it?
And Tina Fey does have a little cameo in there.
Yeah, no, they spoil it in the cast.
I won't say it here but, yeah, that sounds unexpected.
And it's very, the songs are, you know, I should look this up
just because the songs are very good.
Okay.
They're very like Girl Power in the way that Girl Power was in the 90s.
There's like a song called Dream Girlfriend where she's like,
where the characters sing like, you know, I'm your dream girlfriend,
my parents are dead and, you know, so they're not going
to ask you any questions.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Brilliant stuff.
Cool.
Okay.
And I also watched.
That's on Stan.
It's on Stan in Australia, but it's on Peacock.
In Australia.
No, in America, James.
God.
God.
Yeah, it is a good cast. So Sarah Burriels, who's an actual singer-songwriter.
Yep.
Busy Phillips, Paula Pell, Renee Elise Goldsberry.
She's from Hamilton.
Ah, right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, they're all good singers.
Yeah, Jeff Richman, American composer, actor, director, and producer.
He composed the music for and directed multiple episodes of 30 Rock.
All right, yeah.
And the music for Unbreakable, Kimmy Schmidt.
Oh, cool.
I've got to finish Kimmy Schmidt.
Did you finish Kimmy Schmidt? Yes. Cool, cool, yeah. And the music for Unbreakable, Kimmy Schmidt. Oh, cool. I've got to finish Kimmy Schmidt. Did you finish Kimmy Schmidt?
Yes.
Cool, cool, cool.
And I also watched Barb and Star go to Vista Del Mar.
What's that?
It's got Kristen Wiig.
Yep.
It's got, hang on, I'll bring it up for you.
But it's basically, it's a sort of, Barb and Star are two sort of middle-aged women.
They work at the same furniture store.
The store goes out of business,
so they decide to take a vacation to Vista Del Mar.
Yeah.
And it's absolute nonsense.
In a good way?
Well, I was in the mood to enjoy it, I think.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's like they go on – like it's kind of a wacky, you know,
sort of road trip comedy.
It's kind of, not a road trip, but like a vacation comedy kind of thing.
But there's also a supervillain plot in it.
But there's no consequences.
None of it makes any sense.
Okay, that sounds really good.
There's some fun cameos in it.
Jamie Dornan is in it.
Okay.
He's fun in it, yeah.
All right.
Pretty good.
One of the Wayans is in it.
One of the Wayans.
I was just looking for streaming numbers this week
because I saw some updated things and Peacock was up there.
I'm like, oh, and Apple.
I'm like, I didn't know anyone was on those things.
Cool, okay.
Yeah, so it's Kristen Wiig and Annie Mumolo,
who I think they wrote or they worked on Bridesmaids together.
Okay, cool.
Is it better than that Netflix movie about superpowers or whatever?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Is it?
Yes.
You know Sam Jackson is worth $250 million as of 2021?
Yeah.
Anne Mumolo co-wrote Bridesmaids.
Cool.
There you go.
That all sounds really quite good.
Did it remind me to remind you about that movie?
It's like that rom-com.
Palm Springs?
Knockoff.
It's like Paul Rudd and Amy Poehler, and it's like a parody of a rom-com.
Oh, they came together?
Yeah.
Is it like that kind of?
No.
No.
Okay.
It's less.
Because that's like pure nonsense.
Oh, this is even more nonsense.
Like it's a very barely strung together plot.
Okay.
Like I think, because this I think was originally going to go to the movies yeah the theater but because of the the covid the situation
yeah i got me into streaming and i wonder if i had because i paid for it i paid for the rental
yeah but i wonder if i went to the cinemas to see this i'd be like this is nonsense and i hate it
yeah okay because i'm like that's you know it's pretty cheap and i'm you know know, watching it at home and, you know, I was like, this is pretty fun.
It's good fun.
Very good stuff.
Yes.
Should we do the next segment of the show?
We should do the next segment, which is the letters.
It is.
That's your worst one yet.
Right?
Do we want to do it again? No. No, I don't right now. We're going to do that as...
Do we want to do it again?
No.
No, I don't think so.
I thought the volume was up.
I was very prepared.
I'm like, oh, yeah, not bad.
That's good that you're being respectful of podcasting rules, though,
by putting the volume down.
Yeah.
If you do want to reach the show,
hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter or tweet straight at us,
but put the hashtag in there because then I run a search every week
and then I can find them or whatever.
That's right.
Or shoot a letter or audio letter.
Keep it short.
Keep it brief.
Over to weeklyplanetpod.gmail.com.
We've got a few this week.
Do you want to start with those?
Yes.
Where are your headphones, Mason?
They're on my head.
They're on his head.
This one's from Kamyar.
Oh.
Let's give this a crack.
Let's give it a crack.
Hi, I'm Camille from Canada
and I just wanted to say
I love the show.
I apologize if I pronounced
your name wrong,
but here we go.
We're in it now.
We're in it now.
That's true, yeah.
It's happening.
Love you guys
and just wanted to say
a quick little anecdote.
I'm going to be
graduating high school
in about a month
and that got me thinking to the first day of school that I was going to go to in my new neighborhood.
Because I'm an immigrant.
So I didn't always used to live in Canada.
And I remember the night before my first day, I was really nervous.
So I just would just kind of watch Mr. Sunday movies, videos.
Just so like until I went to sleep.
And now I'm graduating high school and I'm just as Canadian as can be.
And it's just, it's a really nice thing that I kind of grew up with the podcast
and the Mr. Sunday movies channel.
And I just want to say thanks for that, guys.
Love y'all.
You are welcome.
Yes, congratulations.
It sounds like we did all the work.
That's exactly right.
That's really cool.
That's awesome.
That's a successful story and I like hearing it.
You know what I mean?
I liked it too.
Congratulations.
It's high school.
Thanks, man.
You don't have to do it anymore.
Oh, my God.
Your life begins when you're not in high school anymore.
You think about it a lot,
but you'll dream about it for the rest of your life, but you don not in high school anymore. You'll think about it a lot but you don't have to. You'll dream about it for the rest of your life but you don't have to go back.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I also liked how it sounded a little bit like he was expecting somebody
to leap in on him while he was recording that.
Maybe he was.
Maybe that was happening.
It sounded like he was recording in a closet maybe.
Maybe it was muck up day pranks on the last day of high school.
Maybe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, you can't even do muck up day pranks anymore in Australia.
Why's that?
Because I think someone cut the head off a chicken or something.
Or a man.
Or a man.
Yeah.
Yeah, which is fine.
Not that.
I mean, the fact that they've cancelled it, you shouldn't murder animals.
Yeah, don't.
Or punch them.
Cut the head off a man.
Yeah, yeah.
Either of those things.
All right.
Got another one here.
Let's do it.
It's from Arnie.
It says, I hope I'm not making any erroneous assumptions in this message.
Oh, my goodness.
Just want the playback to your literal response to the questions.
Here we go.
All right, here we go.
Love it.
Hi, mates.
I hope you're well.
I'm Arnie from Belgium, and I wanted to get back on a letter.
I apologize.
I've also pronounced your name wrong.
Let's keep it going.
Listener Adrian, I think it was sent in last week.
He mentioned to you that he had recently had a vasectomy
and hilarity institute.
Especially funny to me as I was in my third week
of recovering from having undergone the very same procedure.
And if you like anecdotes about what it's like,
I can tell you that I spent at
least seven days always walking from A to B with my legs spread as far apart as possible whenever
I needed to move around. Thank heavens for working from home, am I right? My question, though,
is for Nick specifically. As someone who doesn't have any kids yet,
I wanted to ask you if you had a vasectomy now,
how would you tell your parents that you did?
Hashtag asking for a friend.
Also, follow-up question, can I be the pod's official vegan IT guy?
Thanks, and keep grabbing that gem, you guys.
See you. We'll never grabbing that jam, you guys.
See you.
We'll never stop.
We'll never stop.
Congratulations on your new walk.
I don't think.
My parents are expecting me to have any kids.
I don't think they would be surprised either way.
They'd be like, good?
Yes, sure.
Thank God.
Yeah.
Our family line dies with you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm top.
How would you tell them?
I'd be like, I think I'd be like, just so you know.
You'd come in sideways.
I'd come in sideways like a crab and I'd be like, just FYI,
the thing I'm about to tell you is apparently scientifically reversible.
Well, it is.
It decreases every year.
So like in the first year there's a pretty good chance and then it lessens every time.
Well, I'd say exactly that.
Yeah.
So, okay, fair enough.
I think my, well, I've had kids and my parents would be like, whatever.
Yeah.
We've got enough grandkids.
We've got so many grandkids at this point, that's that.
Exactly, exactly.
Got one more here.
And your mum would be like, we have some girls now, so.
Yeah, that's right, exactly.
So you can stop trying.
Here's a name I'll definitely pronounce wrong.
Harolder. Here we go. Maybe you've nailed it though here we go let's find out all right james and mason you guys are funny and you summarize films i don't want to watch
and comics i'm too illiterate to read i'm the official icelandic dwelling british irish citizen
of the podcast grim harold Harold. And I'm here.
I'm sorry, Grim Harold.
I pronounced your name wrong.
I hope he accepts that apology because this is getting crazy.
Spooky stuff.
Spooky stuff.
Also give a shout out to the official Scottish dwelling
Rangers fan of the podcast, Connor from My Wrestling Chat.
Have a good time and keep up the good work.
Love, Grim Harold.. Love, Grim Harold.
Thank you, Grim Harold.
Grim Harold, that was very upsetting.
That was good.
I liked it.
I like how he told us to have a good time.
Yeah, what a set of pipes.
Good pipes all around this time around, yeah.
Give it all your lovely messages.
Lovely letters.
Sorry, Pranav.
We should call it the lovely letters segment.
The lovely letters segment.
Audio.
Audio only.
Yeah, that's right.
Do you have any other written letters?
I've got some written letters.
I have some tweets too.
I've got one written letter.
This is from James.
That's me.
He says, what do you guys collect?
Hi, James and May.
So I've collected Legos since I was five.
Yep.
Or Lego.
Do you know they say Lego in Adelaide?
Who's saying that?
People in Adelaide, they say Lego.
Who's saying that?
Lego.
No one should be saying that.
I know.
In America, they say Legos.
Who's saying that? Americans. God, he's saying that. I know. In America, they say Legos. Who's saying that?
Americans.
God, he's lost his ability to communicate.
This happens sometimes towards the end of an episode.
James loses the ability to understand words.
You've just got to push forward.
It's true.
Anyway, I've collected Lego.
He's not from Adelaide.
Since I was five, and despite my best efforts to resist,
I've recently started buying action figures
despite not having enough space for the stuff I already have.
Sure.
Despite moving out for uni soon. I was wondering if you guys collected despite not having enough space for the stuff I already have, and despite moving out for
uni soon. I was wondering if you guys collected
anything, or if you had anything noteworthy.
Just wanted to say I've been listening to the pod and watching the channel
for years, and they're both great. Hope you both have a great
week. Bye! Thank you, James. Thank you.
I'm happy to do it.
I thought I didn't collect things,
but it turns out I have a massive pile of video
games. You do.
You have such a massive pile of video games that there is a box that's collapsed in the other room, and it pile of video games. You do. Like you have such a massive pile of video games
that there is a box has collapsed in the other room
and it's spilled video games on the floor.
That was me furiously looking for a PSP game.
And they're just still there.
It's been weeks.
Yeah, so I've got a bunch of PS2 games, a bunch of PS3 games
and a significant amount of PS4 games.
And if you go through the eras of gaming,
I play less and less in every set.
It's like every PS2 game, I'm like,
I've beaten every one of these games.
I know they're made to front PS3.
It's like, eh, somewhat.
And PS4, it's like, I've played none of these.
I played 10 minutes of this, and I'm like,
oh, it's another open world sandbox game.
I guess I'm not finishing this.
Yeah, this one isn't open at all.
You've played some of Resident Evil.
I have.
I've been playing a little bit of it, yeah.
Yeah, you're loving it.
It's quite good, yeah.
I like it so far. Okay, great. I do been playing a little bit of it. Yeah, you're loving it. It's quite good. Yeah, I like it so far.
Okay, great.
I do prefer the third-person perspective, I think, ones.
Do you feel it's less Resident Evil-y just because of that?
I don't think so.
I don't like the puzzles.
It's like you've got to find an amulet to put in there.
There's always gems, aren't there?
I'm like, just fucking open the door.
It's not fun or challenging to me, that shit.
It's just busy work, man.
Again, it exists in that universe of like,
if you were a person in this universe,
if you worked in one of these castles, you'd be like,
I've got to find a ruby to open
this door. But you know,
it's got some pretty satisfying combat.
You know, you've got some sweet guns
and you're great and whatever.
It's very 4, which is
my favourite. Yeah, yeah.
I will continue it or never play it again.
We'll see how that goes.
What about you?
What are you collecting?
I don't know if I collect a lot of stuff.
You collect clothes, though, don't you?
I do collect clothes.
I have a lot of sweaters.
I've never seen you wear the same clothes twice.
Well, that's because I burn them,
so technically it's not a collection, is it?
Yeah, that's just a...
I have enough clothes for ten lifetimes, but I just enjoy them.
Yeah, that's nothing wrong with that.
I'm a rare fabric nerd.
Look at this texture change James, this sweater.
Is that a cable knit sweater?
No, this is more of a fisherman's stitch.
Oh, I like that.
Yeah, so.
Yeah.
You know what I bust?
And watches.
I've got a lot of watches.
Yeah, that's true.
But I find this sort of thing, it's sort of like an endless procession.
Like men's clothing especially, it's just sort of like an endless loop
of slightly different things.
Like I have many, many like watches.
This one has like a cream dial and a brown leather band
and I have like 10.
Yeah, right.
That are slightly different.
They're not the same.
People would be like, why do you have 10 of the same?
They're not the same.
So why is it that?
What's the incentive for you?
Is it disposable income?
No, I think it's like they're like design objects.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's like an action figure in the sense that it's like.
It's you.
People have made, like people, but often with like this sort of stuff,
there's a functional reason behind like, you know,
the size of the numbers and the position and the, you know, all the.
That's a good watch.
It's a Timex, just a Timex.
Takes a lick and keeps on ticking.
Is that true?
Yeah.
That's good to know.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I occasionally buy a Transformer.
I like an Optimus Prime, for example, or an Ultra Magnus.
Yeah, but you don't have like a crazy amount of.
No.
I just, you know what stopped me collecting this sort of stuff?
And the reason I'm like, I can give away a lot of this,
because I'm like, I'll send a lot of this stuff to like secondhand stores
and whatever.
So if kids really want them, they can have them kind of thing.
Yeah, cool.
Because people have documented them all now.
Right.
Like if I'm like –
You're not worried it's going to disappear.
Yeah, I'm like I would like to see every version of Grimlock.
Oh, there's a page that is just that.
Literally just that, yeah.
Like there's a wiki and it's just every Grimlock
and there's like a video, like every transformation
of every action figure exists.
And it's a really boring guy doing it.
And there's channels that are just devoted to like going
through the history of all this stuff.
And for some reason, as soon as this became like a thing,
I'm like, I don't need to collect any of this anymore
because it's...
I think I found that like similar with movies.
I'm like, oh, everything's available digitally. Yeah, right. It's weird because I'm physical on games because I'm like, I don't need to collect any of this anymore because it's – I think I found that like similar with movies. I'm like, oh, everything's available digitally.
Yeah, right.
It's weird because I'm physical on games because I'm worried
they're going to disappear.
But with movies, I'm not.
Huh.
I don't know why.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
I guess because games like they'll stop working if your console, whatever.
That's true, yeah.
They're not all backwards compatible or there's not like a site
you can just go and just play everything.
Yeah.
Whereas movies are essentially can be, you could put most movies
just on a big hard drive.
Yeah.
So I guess that's why I'm probably not afraid of that so much.
In fact, that would be a real money spinner.
You go to a shop and they're like, we have most movies on this hard drive.
Man, that would be, wouldn't it?
God, I would pay 50 bucks for that.
For most movies on a hard drive.
For a terabyte of movies.
That's right.
I'd get a pineapple out for most movies on a hard drive.
You know what?
That's not a terrible idea to be like there's just a bunch of movies
on this hard drive.
Yeah.
That's not terrible.
I mean that's probably like if you ever go to like a car boot sale
or like one of those.
I mean you could do it officially.
Yeah, yeah.
To be like if you love the Saw movies, they're just all on this memory stick.
Yes.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yes.
But it's streaming now so you don't really need to do any of that.
I know, but I would like that.
Yeah, me too.
Cool, cool, cool.
Anything else I collect?
I don't think so.
Not really.
I try not to clutter up my house.
Like I have comics but I lend them out and I'm mostly digital now.
Yeah, like my collections of comic books are now sort
of completely arbitrary.
It's like some stuff I've kept and some stuff I'm like,
oh, I'd like to have that in trade and so I get it
and some stuff I'm just like, I'll just read it digitally
and it doesn't matter, like it's not.
I buy physical copies of a bunch of, not a bunch,
but every now and then of like a TKO comic or something like that.
Yeah, right.
Like Sentient I bought, I was going to say recently,
that was maybe a year ago, maybe a month ago.
But it was just, yeah, like there's an upcoming project
and I'm like, oh, yeah, I'll support, you know, the physical relationship.
And sometimes I'm like physical, sometimes I'll read something digitally
and I'm like, I'll get a physical copy because if I recommend it to somebody,
I can just be like, bam, here it is.
And now I've forgotten I've given that to you.
Now it's gone.
Where's my copy of Mr. Miracle?
I think I loaned it out to somebody.
I can't find it anymore.
Did you? Yeah, yeah.
I've loaned out a lot of mine, so I don't know where they are.
But I, again, like, I, if you
collect them as action figures, good for you.
Take photos, document them. Yeah. So I
love them. Except for my peace of mind,
please document all your action figures. I love a shelf of action figures.
Yeah. Or like a shelf of hot toys.
I'm big into it,
but I just know it's a slippery slope for me.
Yeah. Well, like, I know a few people who have,
they collect like the Batman black and white figurines,
which is all the Batmans in various artist styles.
Yes.
Sort of as figurines, sort of based on the Batman black and white series.
So there'll be like a Mike Mignola one and a...
A different one.
A different one.
A Jim Lee.
A Jim Lee.
There's definitely a Jim Lee, yeah.
But there's, again, at this point there's like 150 of those
and I'm like I can't start.
If I'd started at number one, maybe.
And they get more extensive because some are discontinued and so forth.
Good stuff.
I've got a letter here from Titangus, hashtag weeklyplanetpod.
It's actually a tweet I tricked you.
I got you, Mason.
No, but I'm enjoying it too.
So in a way you've tricked yourself. Jokes on me? Yeah, jokes on you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I enjoyed how you, Mason. No, but I'm enjoying it too. So in a way you've tricked yourself.
Jokes on me?
Yeah, jokes on you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I enjoyed how you did that.
Well, now I'm not going to read this one.
Great.
I'm enjoying that too.
Now I'm having a big sulk.
You're digging your heels in.
Is it better to watch an adaptation having read the source material
or going blind, trying to decide whether to read Invincible or not?
Also, when will the James wants to change the intro arc continue?
Yeah, that'll come back soon i
think um i mean it depends i think property to property for me having read invincible it didn't
lessen my enjoyment of the series yeah i don't know whether it would have enhanced it either
what's going on in the world mason what do you what do you think uh okay here's an example i
recently read the dry and then I saw the movie The Dry.
Oh, you have seen the movie The Dry with Eric Banner.
Yes, and I think it's still in cinemas.
I think it's still playing.
It was a few weeks ago.
But the book, I think the movie would be-
Would you say one of them is a bit dry?
Very good.
Would you though?
I'm also enjoying this joke.
So the joke's on you.
Well, that's great. I love it when a joke's on me because I'm very giving this joke, so the joke's on you. Well, that's great.
I love it when a joke's on me because I'm very giving in that way.
If I hadn't have read the book, I think I would have enjoyed the movie more.
I talked about Suggestible.
It's a good movie.
It's very, like, it's well-directed.
But it's about a murder in a small town.
Yeah, a murder in a small town.
A town with secrets.
Yes, and there's a lot of deep.
And you think it's an innocent town, but it's actually full of secrets.
Exactly, et cetera.
So it's in every Australian movie.
No, it's better than most.
It's kind of above.
But I think there's a lot of nuance in the book.
And again, I talk about this in my less successful podcast, Suggestible.
Go on.
But it really captures a desperation of a small town
that I feel like the movie can't quite squeeze in.
It's like this dying town in this dead farming industry when there's a drought
and everything's awful. Is that because you go
you watch the movie and you go, well this is a dying
town but Eric Banner's in it and a bunch of other
beautiful people.
Maybe it is. Maybe they could all take second
jobs as models or actors. And again
it's a pretty good movie.
But yeah, so I guess it
just depends on the property. And you don't really know
until you just dig into both, I guess.
Yeah, I think it is very much a case of case by case and just ask an expert.
Like go to somebody who has seen them both or a huge fan of, say,
Invincible, the comic book.
Would you go to a Reddit thread or would you go to someone you trust
or would you read an insane Reddit thread?
I'd go –
By 4,000 insane people.
I'd go and read an insane Reddit thread first, I think, yeah.
Cool.
Just spin your head right around and not know where you're at.
That's right.
Cool.
Can you think of an example of a thing where you went,
I'm going to read this before I watch it or vice versa?
I tried Lord of the Rings before I saw it.
I've talked about this.
Couldn't get through it.
I used to read a lot of adaptations of movies I couldn't see.
Like the novelizations.
Yeah, like I read like Stargate and I still haven't seen the movie Stargate,
but I've read the novelization.
There's a new game coming out.
Is there?
Stargate, keep on Stargating.
If you stop for a second, I swear to God.
If anybody closes this fucking Stargate, I'm going to lose it.
So what kind of game is it?
Is it an MMMMO?
I think it's, they just did a reveal trailer, so nothing.
It's just, the trailer was just them opening a Stargate.
Cool.
Let me check what it's on because that will determine whether this is good or not.
And whether it's a real-time strategy game or not.
For mobile?
Yeah.
Yeah, here we go.
Stargate Timekeepers.
Yes.
What is that?
Don't know, James.
Is there time travel in Stargate?
Probably.
Generally not.
Okay.
I couldn't rule that out. I haven't seen every episode
of Stargate Atlantis. Then why
did Richard Dean Anderson die
and then return in Stargate?
Whoa. What? I think.
Oh. A real-time
strategy game. Okay. So it's on PC probably.
Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay.
What were we talking about? I've forgotten. Stargate adaptations.
Oh yeah.
I read Jurassic Park before I saw the movie, the junior novelization.
And then I read the senior novelization.
I will generally not go out of my way to read the source material.
If I haven't already read it, I probably won't until afterwards.
Yeah.
I think just because I don't want to know what I'm –
because, I mean, generally speaking, if it's maybe a long comic book series
and they turn it into a movie, they're going to cut a lot of stuff out.
Yeah.
And I don't want to go in and be like, oh, yeah,
they cut out the scene with it.
That was a good scene.
Okay, whatever.
Or like, you know, I don't want to look at it and go,
oh, they've obviously made compromises for marketing purposes or, you know,
we don't want to offend anyone purposes or any of those kind of things.
So I'd rather just watch it and enjoy it as it is and then go back and go,
oh, they added the pirate.
I was going to say the pirate comic.
Yeah, okay.
That's fair enough.
There was something specifically I was going to mention.
So sometimes when a movie's coming out and I'm like,
oh, that's three years away, I'll read it.
Like when I heard they were making The Martian,
I went, oh, that sounds really interesting and I'll read the book
and I did and they were both pretty good.
Terrific.
And that's everything except for this last tweet.
Go on.
From the Sunday Boys.
Wait, no.
That is a review I'm going to read later.
Ah.
This is from Lee Fennell who says, hey, Master Sunday Movies,
how about a caravan of garbage for some of the Masters of the Universe properties,
the original New Adventures, the movie, but are most partial to the 2002 series.
I'd say we will definitely do the movie and maybe touch on the other stuff.
I don't know.
Do you remember there was a sequel cartoon to the original series
where they went to a different planet?
Nope.
I don't remember that at all.
Are you sure that's real?
That's 100% real.
I remember the toy line.
Yes, we'll do some of that.
Yeah, we'll definitely do the movie.
And maybe we'll find the worst episode of the cartoon.
Sure.
That'll be fun.
Yeah.
I was thinking about how to do something like,
what's that bug movie called where they kill bugs?
Starship Troopers.
Yes.
Would it be, like I don't want to do.
Actually, some people think it's about a bit more than that, James,
more than just killing bugs. I don't want to get into it, Mason. I don't want to do. Actually, some people think it's about a bit more than that, James, more than just killer bugs.
I don't want to get into it, Mason.
I don't want to get into it.
But would we do, like, the first movie and then there's two sequels
and an animated sequel?
Would people be okay with, like, if we did the first movie
and then we just jammed everything into one other video?
Yeah, because sometimes there's not a lot of,
it's not a substantive, the sequels, yeah.
Yeah, anyway, it's just something to think about.
Isn't it, though?
That nobody probably cares about.
Anything else or is that it?
That's the whole show, folks.
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do it for you. This one's from the Sunday Boys.
It's actually a tweet. From the Sunday Boys?
Yeah. These boys...
James, I'm really enjoying how you keep tricking
me. These good boys.
These boys are the goodest podcast boys.
The most good boys. You'll never find
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That's from Fiomella.
Five stars?
Five stars.
Hey, Ollie, you still there?
Ollie.
It's too cold.
She's too cold.
It's really cold in here, isn't it?
Ollie, you coming?
Here she is.
This one is from Jonathan Burko who says,
amazing output for 40%.
Wish I was 10% as productive as these guys operating at 40%.
So the trick is Mason's at 100% and I bring him somewhere in the middle.
That's how it works.
You drag me down to 60-ish and I reach out to you.
I throw out a rope.
Yep, yep.
That's it.
And what else are you doing, Mason?
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Yeah.
I always appreciate it.
I always have a browser of that on my off time.
It's real good fun. You can also go to planetbroadcasting.com. You can sign up. I always have a browser of that on my off time. It's really good fun.
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Very good.
Right now probably.
I agree.
He's hearing this right
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How has he done it?
Hopefully he's taking a
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Editing software.
Which means, yes, I'd
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He's not doing real to real? I don't know. Maybe he transfers it to real to real. I reckon he's taking a bit of a break soon. Editing software. Which means, yes, I'd imagine so. He's not doing reel-to-reel?
I don't know.
Maybe he transfers it to reel-to-reel.
Do you reckon he's doing like a two-tape deck situation
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Yeah, maybe, yeah.
He's got some old Walkmans in his push and play and record at the same time.
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We're putting in some new catchphrases.
I love catchphrases.
Yeah.
That's your new catchphrase.
I love catchphrases.
I say it differently every time.
It's got a different cadence.
It's got more desperation every time.
I've got...
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Next week, something else?
Army of the Dead.
Maybe that other movie you mentioned.
Yes.
Maybe Cruella.
Oh, that's so many things. Yep. All right. Grabbed our gem, you guys. Maybe that other movie you mentioned. Yes. Maybe Cruella. Oh, that's so many things.
Yep.
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I mean, if you want.
It's up to you.
FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship
between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies
on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London.
One woman has a secret.
The other, a mission to reveal it
before thousands of lives are lost.
FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss,
is now streaming on Disney+.