The Weekly Planet - 387 A Quiet Place Part II & Joker 2

Episode Date: May 31, 2021

Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month. Wat up dawg it’s ya bois Jimmy and Nicky.  This week we ...are joined by Claire Tonti to talk A Quiet Place Part II, the sequel to a movie with a very similar name.  Plus we’ve got trailers galore including one for The Eternals, JJ Abrams thinks you should plan movies, Oscar Isaac confirmed as Moonknight, more Okoye on Disney Plus, Kraven The Hunter casting, a merging of Spider-Man universes, a Jonka update, Amazon buys MGM, Zack Snyder’s Star Wars and finally a sequel to Joker. Finally. Thanks for the support.Suggestible â–º https://bit.ly/3uDAx1AClaire’s Newsletter â–º https://mailchi.mp/4ec4475df6f4/tontsnewsletter00:00 The Start4:31 Trailers ahoy!4:50 Jungle Cruise6:35 Old8:17 Last Night In Soho9:28 Dexter11:10 The Tomorrow War & Infinite14:57 The Eternals25:36 JJ Abrams on planning movies29:40 Oscar Isaac is Moon Knight30:00 More Okoye fon Disney +31:29 Kravan The Hunter Casting33:51 Spider-Man Universes merge36:18 Jonka casting41:25 Amazon buys MGM43:36 Guardians Of The Galaxy video game46:35 Zack Snyder says a bunch of stuff about Star Wars & Batman50:17 Joker 2: 2 Jokes55:49: A Quiet Place Part II (spoilers 1:18:40 - 1:37:12)1:37:12 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read1:48:34 Letters, It’s Time For Letters James' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrown Patreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymovies TWP iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanet TWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGH Amazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2QbmwGj T-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:55 This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. This episode is brought to you by movement. Love movement. Me too. The concept and the watches. podcast from our great mates this episode is brought to you by movement of movement me too the concept and the watches now without giving away this specific date mason it's either been your birthday or it's soon to be your birthday now i i've forgotten to do this this last few years but mason as is tradition on this show except for the last few years yes which is which has broken the tradition i feel uh you get to do
Starting point is 00:01:33 the intro of the show as a birthday treat what a treat for me wow i'll just sit here i'll be you great that is a good impression of me actually i was gonna say something really rude i was like oh look i'm doing this really rude thing. Well, I keep that in my head. Okay, good. Folks, welcome once again to another episode of the Weekly Planet, a podcast where we talk about movies and comic books and TV shows and video games sometimes.
Starting point is 00:01:55 A little bit of news today, yeah. It's me, Mason. I'm here. James is also here. Welcome to the show. Now, James, you'll do my tradition, which is a thing that I do very occasionally, which is where there's some sort of fun anecdote.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Yeah. I usually forget to think of one. Yeah, okay. But I think in this occasion, because it's been my birthday or it's soon to be my birthday, you should have an anecdote of some kind. That's true. I do, actually. I've got one locked and loaded ready to go because I pre-planned this,
Starting point is 00:02:17 which means that, of course, I would come in with a story prepared. Great. I didn't. Oh, whoa. That's a story in itself, James. My idea was to throw you under the bus and then walk out of the room. For the entire episode? That's the birthday treat, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Now that I think about it, me not having an anecdote most weeks. That's a journey in itself, isn't it? That's true. Just every week I could just be like, I was going to think of something. But then I slept in. And then I didn't want to. And I didn't want to. I didn't leave my house. So there wasn't anything real. Nothing notable happened. I didn't want to. And I didn't want to. I didn't leave my house.
Starting point is 00:02:45 So there wasn't anything real. Yeah. Nothing notable happened. I didn't meet a wacky dude or anything. We're back in lockdown. Yeah, I'm back in lockdown. Et cetera and so forth. That's right.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Hopefully not for too much longer. But yeah. Hopefully for way longer, James. No, Mason. I'm homeschooling. It's literally killing me. But I'm not homeschooling. Living large.
Starting point is 00:03:00 As I said, like if I didn't have kids,, mate, you can lock me down for five years. I would not even notice. I wouldn't even blink. But I love my kids. And also, Mason, I love movie news because we are doing movie news this week.
Starting point is 00:03:13 That's right. We've got a bunch of trailers including The Eternals, including Jungle Cruise and a bunch of others. J.J. Abrams got some Star Wars news about what he thinks
Starting point is 00:03:21 about Star Wars. Oscar Isaac and Moon Knight. They probably should have asked for his opinion on Star Wars before he did those Star Wars movies. They probably did ask him, don't you think? They asked him behind closed doors.
Starting point is 00:03:30 We've got some more Okoye updates for the future of the character. The casting of Kraven the Hunter. Spider-Man Marvel Universe information. We've got a Charlie and the Chocolate Factory prequel update. Great. Thank goodness. Amazon and MGM. Where do you get that chocolate?
Starting point is 00:03:48 He makes it. It's in the movie. The prequel? But it's going to be the prequel, right? Oh, he doesn't have any chocolate. But at the end he goes, you know what? Yeah, I will. That's what this has been about.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Great. And I'm going to do it. Terrific, yeah. He's going to have to get the hat, the goggles. Yep. I'm assuming it's the Johnny Depp version. That's a prickle too. Didn't the other one have goggles as well at some point?
Starting point is 00:04:06 Was it a big white jumpsuit? Maybe he did. Yeah, okay. Yeah, maybe he put on that. Yeah, okay. Great stuff. On a lab coat or something. Some Guardians of the Galaxy video game news.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Cool. Some Zack Snyder stuff. And of course, a sequel to Joker. Maybe very much. Where did he get that chocolate? The Joker? Yeah, yeah. In his fridge.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Oh, yeah. That X-Men did spend a lot of time in that fridge. You were a fridge in the chocolate guy or a chocolate in the fridge guy? No. Are you chocolate in or out of the fridge? Mostly in the fridge. Depends what it is. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Yeah. If it's a thick block, you don't need that any harder than it needs to be. That's very true. But it's a thin. If it's a Kit Kat, chuck it in there. Put a Mars bar in. What are you insane? Where are you putting your Tim Tams?
Starting point is 00:04:44 I don't have Tim Tams because I'll die. Oh, fridge. Yeah, I mostly fridge the Tim Tams as well. Yeah, because I like a cool Tim Tam. Oh, that reminds me I should get some Tim Tams. I would exclusively eat Tim Tams,
Starting point is 00:04:53 but I can't because I have kids. You've got to choose. Anyway, time codes if you do want to jump around. If you just want to repeat the chocolate and Tim Tam talk, it's right there. Just wind it back for three seconds.
Starting point is 00:05:06 You can check that right out. And in addition to that, this week at BigSandwich.co, which is our private little service which you can sign up to if you want. We have a bunch of movie commentaries and stuff like that. This week we're doing Time Crapshull of the year 1991. Oh, big year. Yeah, is that a big year? Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Very big year. From memory, from when we recorded it. Yes, probably. That's right. Let's get into the news. And by news I a big year? Yes. Very big year. From memory, from when we recorded it. Yes, probably. That's right. Let's get into the news. And by news, I mean trailers. Trailers are Hoy Mason. Very good.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Wait, because this is my birthday. You should have gone. You should have done the honk. Okay, here we go. You ready? Yeah, go on. God, he's planned this out perfectly. That one I prepared for.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Jungle Cruise, speaking of boats. Oh, The Rock in his tiny tugboat and his tiny little uniform. Little waistcoat, yeah. What do you think? I mean, pretty standard fare, isn't it? I thought so, yes. Looks expensive. Of all the trailers I've seen this week,
Starting point is 00:06:01 this one I would definitely say is the most standard fare. Like, they're not taking any chances with this movie are they no it doesn't feel that way it feels um i see what they're doing with like a pirates of the caribbean s because it's obviously it's based on a ride the mummy-esque as well i think throwing that adventure romancing the stone yep so on and so forth that's right classic movies but um yeah this i mean it could be great don't get me wrong but this just just, everything about this screams like, do you want to see the most generic by-the-numbers committee Disney movie you've ever seen in your life?
Starting point is 00:06:30 Hell, yeah. Just kidding, no. Well, it's coming to streaming, so I probably will watch it on streaming. Yeah, I guess so, yeah. It'll be on, do you think it'll be premium content? Like you've got to throw an extra 20 bucks in? Yes, I believe it is, yeah. Are you going to chuck down for that?
Starting point is 00:06:43 Are you? Man, I do like Emily Blunt. I do like The Rock. That's the thing. Yeah. Isn't it? That's how they get you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:52 It's got Jesse Plemons. They employ the bare minimum. I was like some sort of German. Submarine captain? Ottoman Empire submarine captain. I don't know. That's fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:03 That is kind of fun. I think one of the main reason why Pirates worked, the first one at the very least, is because Johnny Depp was doing a weird thing. But if you just get The Rock and Emily Blunt to roll in and just go, hello, it's me, The Rock, and me, Emily Blunt, and let's just go on a standard adventure. It's like, what are we here for?
Starting point is 00:07:21 That's true. And it's in the jungle again. Aren't all these movies in the jungle now? Yes. Yeah. All right. That's what I'm saying. Anyway, whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:29 We've got more trailers. Okay. Let's talk about the trailer for Old, which is M. Night Shyamalan's next movie. Yeah. Where if you go onto this beach. You get old. You get old. Watch out.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Can you leave the beach? Probably not, because you would. You'd definitely leave that beach, yeah. I'd be out of there. Yeah. I'd be so fast out of there. But it turns out that on the beach, you get real old, then you would. You'd definitely leave that beach, yeah. I'd be out of there. Yeah. I'd be so fast out of there. But it turns out that on the beach you get real old then you die. Do you reckon there's going to be a way to reverse getting old on the beach?
Starting point is 00:07:51 No. There's a magic elixir. No. Oh. Maybe they'll find it on a jungle cruise. In the sequel. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:58 What do you think about this though? He's hit and miss obviously but he's- He's very hit and miss, isn't he? He's done some decent stuff more like of late again. Yeah. Is this based on something? Maybe it's... Is it based on a...
Starting point is 00:08:09 Fear of dying? Yeah, maybe that. Maybe, yeah. Yeah. I don't know, as far as I know it's not, because he likes to make a lot of original properties, except for Avatar. That's true.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Which was horrendous. Yes, we did record it for Carrier Out of Garbage, and no, I don't know when I'm going to put it out. Don't even know where it is, quite frankly. No, it's probably in a bin. We might have to record it again by the time we roll around to it. I think we make a lot of Y2K references. Yeah, we sure do.
Starting point is 00:08:33 We recorded it that long ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No reference to any kind of pandemics, you know. It does feel like it's based on a Stephen King short story or something, though, doesn't it? Yeah, okay, let's have a look. All right, I can also Google it. Inspired by the graphic novel Sandcastle.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Oh, you're right. Well done, Mason. Wow, you're on fire today. Thank you. That's because it's your birthday or soon to be your birthday or it was your birthday. That's right. I mean, it's got some people I like.
Starting point is 00:08:55 It's got Gail Garcia-Bernard. It's got Rufus Sewell is in it. Wow. A lot of French people. A lot of French people. Yeah. Yeah. It genuinely looks all right.
Starting point is 00:09:06 The payoff isn't always great in these movies. But I like the premise. Let's talk about, though, Last Night in Soho. Ah, in the Edgar Wright film, yeah. Not a comedy, it seems. One of the many mind-bending time travel kind of multi-generational movie situation trailers that we got from this week yes uh what did you think looks doesn't look like anything else he's done no that's true yeah i'm glad he's branching out you know reminded me of that neon set in an in movie where chris hemsworth turns up
Starting point is 00:09:36 and he's oh um what's that one called bad times of the el royale there got that kind of vibe okay no uh what you can say no. I mean, I don't really remember. Was that surreal and magical, that movie? You know what? It probably wasn't. I don't think it was. It just gave me that vibe.
Starting point is 00:09:53 What's allowed to give you that vibe? It's totally fine. It's really good. Someone's going back to the swinging 60s. Exactly. It's like the movie Midnight in Paris, a movie I haven't seen. Don't you think? I'm going to say no. I don't think it is like that. Exactly. It's like the movie Midnight in Paris, a movie I haven't seen. Don't you think?
Starting point is 00:10:07 I'm going to say no. I don't think it is like that. Wow. I get some hard stances here and I don't know if I like it. But yeah, when's that out? Do you know?
Starting point is 00:10:14 No. Well, maybe I should have looked this up. Okay. Maybe I will look it up now. October of this year. So yeah, there you go. Cool.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Good stuff. Very short teaser trailer for Dexter. Yeah. When he's back, he's in a small town. He's Mr. Jim Lindsay. So he, there you go. Cool. Good stuff. Very short teaser trailer for Dexter. Yeah. When he's back, he's in a small town. He's Mr. Jim Lindsay. So he's not a wood chipper or whatever he was. He's a school teacher of some sort.
Starting point is 00:10:33 So it seems to be what he's under the guise of. And he probably has to go back and do some serial killers. Now, the only confirmed original cast member is him. But do you think we're going to get some other cops maybe looking for him? Some flashbacks? I think we're definitely going to get some other cops maybe looking for him, some flashbacks? I think we're definitely going to get flashbacks. The ghost of his sister, et cetera. Ghost of his sister, definitely.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Wait, did she ever appear as a ghost or did she? No, she died in the very last episode. Right, so there wasn't time for her to become a ghost. Plenty of time now, though. Yeah, heaps of time. Limited series, I think it's like six or eight, but also could keep going. Yep. You know how these things go.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Sure do, yeah. Didn't like it, the way it wrapped up, but I always liked the concept, and the early seasons are pretty strong. Do you think this is going to be a fresh start, or do you think there's going to be plot threads from that last season? So some spoilers for Dexter, the original Dexter. He has a child, and he leaves it... With another serial killer.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Another serial killer. He's like, well, I can't because I can't raise this kid because the kid will become a serial killer. So I'll let this less morally constrained serial killer. Yes. Raise the child instead. Perfect. What I think, I think it's going to be one of those things
Starting point is 00:11:35 where you don't think they're going to connect and then it will. And even if you haven't seen it, it won't matter because they'll be looking for him or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then some of the previous cops will turn up. Do you think there'll be a surprise return from somebody who was definitively dead in the previous? Ooh, like a previous serial killer.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Like a dokes? Do you think dokes will come back or something? Surprise, motherfucker. Yeah, that would be amazing. I mean, dokes exploded. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But even the ghost of dokes? Ghost of dokes.
Starting point is 00:11:57 That'd be great. Ghost dokes. He's here. Has there been a ghost of dokes? Has there been enough time? Surely. Yeah, definitely. Surely there's been enough time.
Starting point is 00:12:05 I've got three more trailers to talk about, Mason. Okay, go on. The Tomorrow War, which is the one where Chris Pratt has to go into the future because of the multi-generational war. He has to do an Age of Tomorrow show. That's right. More or less. The movie Infinite where Mark Wahlberg is a Highlander man.
Starting point is 00:12:20 He's a Highlander, but he seems to be a reincarnated Highlander man as opposed to an immortal Highlander man. What do you mean I'm a Highlander man? What's a Highlander, but he seems to be a reincarnated Highlander man as opposed to an immortal Highlander man. What do you mean I'm a Highlander man? What are you even talking about? Saying I've got the Highlander powers? Is that what she's saying? I've never even held a sword up and then lightning hit it. I've never done that.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Well, it's because it's got a Chiwetel Ejioforus in this. Yes. Looking great for the shade here. Didn't recognise him at first, yeah. Looking so good. And it opens with him bringing a sword into the room, i'm like wow they're really leaning heavily into this like highlander reference here yeah but uh i haven't even seen highlander sorry go on ah so this like we said it seems to be talking about both of these movies i guess just together right what was the
Starting point is 00:13:00 previous one we were talking about the tomorrow war War. Oh, yeah. Where they come back and they're like, get up here. Get up here and get into this. Right. Get amongst it. Go hard or go home. Yeah. I don't know. I'm more interested in this infinite one. Me too, actually, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:14 So the opening scene is we enter a room. Chiwetel Ejiofor enters this room. Mark Wahlberg's in it. He can't escape. And then Chiwetel Ejiofor's like, can you remember any of these things on the table? Nah, man. I can't remember. How then Chiwetel Ejiofor is like, can you remember any of these things on the table? Nah, man. I can't remember. How would I remember a rope? You know? Never even looked at a rope.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Right? Yeah. But then, but Chiwetel Ejiofor is like, every time you don't remember a thing, I'm going to rush and roulette you. Yeah. What if he shot him? Is he just going to wait 40 years for the guy to be reborn again? He's probably done it so many times. Yeah, I guess. But I mean, surely there's some, like it would be nice if there was some time pressure here.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Yeah, sure. So what is going on? He's after a thing, a magic amulet probably. Nice. Don't you think? Yeah, maybe. Yeah. What about a tuxedo that gives you kung fu powers?
Starting point is 00:13:57 Maybe they're after that. Is it technology or is it magic? Or is it magic that's, no, technology that's indistinguishable from magic? I think it's probably just magic. Great. That sounds really good. I've never even seen a magic tuxedo. This will never fit over my biceps.
Starting point is 00:14:08 What are you guys even talking about? Oh, my God, it fit over my biceps. I guess it is magic. I like how, if you go back, our first sentence of Mark Wahlberg impression probably somewhat accurate. The further along we go, the weirder and worse it gets. Doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Did you also see the first photo reveal of Uncharted? Yeah. With Mark Warburg and Tom Holland as two men. Two guys in the same clothes holding torches. Two men in black clothes holding torches in a location. Wow, you've really nailed that Uncharted spirit, haven't you? I mean, we know it's going to get more Uncharted as it goes along. I guess.
Starting point is 00:14:43 But yeah, no, that didn't do much for me, if I'm honest. Yeah. Yeah. Now, where is Infinite going to end up? Is it going to end up at cinemas or is it? Paramount Plus, apparently. Oh, yeah, that's right. And Tomorrow War is Amazon also as well.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Okay. Do we have big Amazon news this week? We do. Oh, I should also mention that we are going to be talking about A Quiet Place 2. I didn't mention that, but it's in the title. But my wife, Claire, will be stopping by, won't she, Mason? That's right. We'll talking about A Quiet Place 2. I didn't mention that, but it's in the title. But my wife Claire will be stopping by, won't she, Mason? That's right. To talk about A Quiet Place.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Maybe she's here right now, but she's practicing being in The Quiet Place. She's not here. But there was a joke about how that movie is also about being quiet. Yeah. Largely. And I think that sort of represents how we would do in the universe of A Quiet Place. Your wife would be being very, very quiet, and we would just be talking about old trailers
Starting point is 00:15:25 we watched before the aliens crashed to Earth and began slaughtering everybody who talks. And we'd be like, I remember when Mark Wahlberg was going to be in like, at least one of us would die doing a bad Mark Wahlberg impression. Hey, what's that running towards me? Hey, I'm drinking a Budweiser
Starting point is 00:15:42 and then I'm killed. This wasn't worth it. This, I'm drinking a Budweiser. And then I'm killed. This wasn't worth it. This joke I'm doing. But you've got to keep people's spirits up, you know what I mean? Exactly. But The Eternals was the big trailer from this week. I did a trailer breakdown,
Starting point is 00:15:56 if people want to see my thoughts. But what are your thoughts of The Eternals trailer? Oh, my goodness. A lot to unpack, I think. Well, you're on your own. I already did it. I know you did. You just grunt along to unpack, I think. Well, you're on your own because I already did it. I know you did. You just grunt along to this.
Starting point is 00:16:07 The number one question, which I'm sure you probably did some wild speculating about, is if they've been around since the dawn of human civilization or before, where have they been? Where have they been when Thanos was destroying the universe? I reckon, you know. They could have been in that big battle at the end as well. We wouldn't know. Could have been in the big battle.
Starting point is 00:16:28 They could have been, you know, on the other side of the galaxy defending something else. Yeah. I mean, you know, they could be the kind of, you know, immortal beings who are just like, you know, sometimes a silver surfer will be like, oh, I feel so disconnected from humanity and i shall just i shall simply slip into the void oh whoa oh you know yeah do that thing and they they disconnect
Starting point is 00:16:54 from humanity for you know a thousand years or whatever and then they come back because there is a scene in this trailer where they arrive in their spaceship and they're looking at what might be prehistoric yeah humans or it might be like one of those tribes that still exists that people don't interfere with. Remember that tribe? Yeah, I do. Didn't they all die? They ended up bulldozing them all?
Starting point is 00:17:14 No, there was one tribe. They live on an island and there was a guy who kept bothering them and eventually they killed him. Did you remember that? It was quite recently. Why was he bothering them? He just wanted to do research and just show up on their island all the time. Yeah, well.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And get killed. Maybe when they were throwing stuff at you, you should leave. Great. And I think you mentioned as well in your video, so the Eternals were created by the Celestials, who we've seen in the movies before. They also created the Deviants, and Thanos is technically, in the comics at least, he is a Deviant.
Starting point is 00:17:45 He's one of the evil versions of the Eternals. So I look, I mean, maybe one of the explanations could be that even though Thanos said that he annihilated half the population at random, maybe he was like, annihilate half the population at random, and also there's all those bloody Eternals because I'm sick of them. Thorns on my side for ages. Yeah, you might be right, because he could have just gone into a mind palace and whatever, couldn't he?
Starting point is 00:18:07 Yeah, exactly. Sort it out. Plenty of time in that mind palace. Walked down like a row of people. This guy, this guy, this one, this one, this one. Yeah, yeah. How do you feel about their power set in this? We've seen.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Pretty vague at this point. Very vague at this point. I mean, you get a bit of an indication about what's going on. But what I did also notice from this trailer is that Kamau Nanjiani is much bigger now than he was when this movie was shot. That's interesting, isn't it? Jesus, you sent me a picture this week. I was like, God, he's enormous.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Look, I don't want us to descend into gossip. No. But, you know, it's like, you know, maybe he's found his thing, you know? Maybe he's like, I'm loving this. You know? I like being two men. I like being his biggest two men. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Is that your foot? Nope. Yeah, cool. Cool. Thank God. Right. Yeah. It's looking good.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I think they are going to answer like where they've been and whatever. I don't think it's going to be a problem. No, I don't think they'll. Yeah. Again, there always seems to be a fear that at some point Marvel writers are going to forget and producers are going to forget how to tell a story. I don't think they are. I think there's going to be an explanation of some kind. They're all at least good. That's true. Yeah. And that's, and they're all up really.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Yeah. Maybe I'm a Marvel fan boy. Yeah. But yeah. What do you think about this though? The bit at the end where they're like, who's, what's, what are we going to do now that Captain America and Iron Man are gone? I felt that was just like a bit for the trailer to be like, you saw the Marvel thing up top, but don't worry, it's not one of those X-Men movies. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is definitely going to be tight. Don't even, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Yeah, because I mean, I guess we did, in most of this, we didn't get anything that sort of leans. It's interesting, we didn't get, you know, maybe the Endgame final battle, like a snippet of that. I think that would, that probably tells me that they weren't at the final, the end game battle. Because it wasn't in this trailer? Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Fair enough. I enjoyed how they were like, we've guided humanity for so long. We showed them how to make those buildings. Pretty good. Pretty good, right? Yeah. I think they all showed them how to make different things.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Yeah, yeah. That three little pig story is based on them. Okay, cool. I made a straw right? Yeah. I think they all show them how to make different things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That three little pig story is based on them. Okay, cool. I made a straw hut. Yeah. I am. Thanos smashed it. Ha, ha, ha.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Yeah. Kit Harington's the Black Knight. He is. We don't know how that ties in. So he must be, I reckon they probably had dealings with his ancestor or whatever. Yeah. Because it's the sword that's passed down, not the, and the man, but he's, it's not the same guy, is it?
Starting point is 00:20:25 No. It's interesting because, you know, we know a lot of kind of lore about these characters from the comic books, but to what extent? Yeah. They all have the same powers, don't they, from the comics? Yeah, so in the comics they all have the same sort of base set of powers, but some are better at one in particular than the others.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Like, you know, one is better at shape-shifting or one is better at shooting lasers out of their eyes or one one is the strongest one but they can all technically do all the things so to what extent that will be i suspect they will probably they'll all be like super strong and and long-lived and sort of enrolled invulnerable ish maybe they can't fly or only one of them can oh maybe only one of them fly does anyone anyone fly in this trailer? I don't know. But they can all fly in the comics. Yeah, that's what I mean, yeah. Where was I going with this?
Starting point is 00:21:09 Probably nowhere, but I've got many thoughts. I can't wait. Don't even think I don't have any thoughts in my brain. No, I thought you had thoughts. Here's a question. So the creation of them, back in the day, the Celestials created them and humans and deviants on Earth. So do you think they are from Earth originally?
Starting point is 00:21:29 Or do you think they're just aliens that look like humans? Well, as I said in the video, there's creatures in the galaxy that look like humans. That's true. Like Jude Law that just looks like a guy. Yeah, that's true. You know what I mean? So I don't... Not just any guy, the young pope.
Starting point is 00:21:43 That's true. They modded him off the young pope. Not just any guy the young pope that's true they mauled him off the young pope not just any guy alfie from the remake of the movie alfie true yeah very depressing movie and uh rewatch it turns out so yeah i know i don't i think they're not from earth okay i think but i don't know because the the i'm sure there's been comparisons on twitter but there is a there is a um the scene of them arriving on the ship that it sort of mirrors there's a scene of them arriving on the ship. That sort of mirrors, there's a scene of the Celestials arriving in the comic books,
Starting point is 00:22:09 like the Jack Kirby kind of, to experiment on the creatures of Earth and make them into superhuman beings and et cetera. So I'm wondering if, it seems to be in the trailer that that is one continuous shot. It's the Eternals arriving on Earth and seeing that group of people. But I wonder if they are maybe separate shots and that is the celestial or like
Starting point is 00:22:28 some uh you know uh agents of the celestial showing up yeah and then they're like ah these people we can experiment they just grab some people and yeah yeah i mean maybe but i don't know they're crafty with these trailers aren't they yeah that'd be cool i think it's way more likely that they're like you said they're aliens they show up at earth and they're like oh this is fascinating we can because that adds it adds an extra layer of complexity if they're if there's they're they're an offshoot of humanity and so and so are the deviants and blah blah yeah so it makes more sense if they just they're aliens they show up on earth they like they look like us but they're not yeah we will show maybe this maybe they look like something else and the ship changes them when they get there
Starting point is 00:23:04 or whatever yeah to be more human like or whatever maybe they look like something else and the ship changes them when they get there or whatever. Maybe, yeah. To be more human-like or whatever. Maybe they're like birthed as they arrive. I don't know. Oh, true. They just bottle them off paper. They're like, make that guy look like that guy. That being said, what do you think of the aesthetic?
Starting point is 00:23:18 Good. Yes? I like that you might not even know it's a Marvel movie because it's director of Nomadland, a movie you really enjoyed, I think. It did close you out. So, no, what do you think of it, though? I mean, also, we don't see that much. No, that's true.
Starting point is 00:23:32 There's been some complaints, but, again, as I said in the trailer, it's like we'll get the next trailer where it's like this is the thread and this is what it's taken, this is whatever. I think it could be wackier. Like you wish it looked wackier. Yeah. Well, I'm be wackier. Like you wish it looked wackier. Yeah. Well, I'm not wackier. And maybe not even like,
Starting point is 00:23:47 I think the character designs themselves look good, but I think the aesthetic of their ship and that sort of stuff, and even like, because I like how they can clearly create some sort of technological magic kind of thing. They can create structures and they can create swords and things like that.
Starting point is 00:24:05 I think that does look good, but I think, you know, the Kirby aesthetic looks kind of wackier. Yeah. Like it's kind of bigger and... Bolder. Bigger and bolder and like when I think of Kirby, I think maybe Jack Kirby, I think more of like the stuff that was happening in Thor Ragnarok.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Yeah, okay, sure. Because it's kind of bigger and there's like stone effigies to mysterious gods that existed. And this guy's got a metal mohawk. You keep holding it up behind the microphone. All right. There we go. Yeah, nice.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Is that Icarus? That is... Another guy. It's a different guy. It's a different guy. Now, Icarus is like red and... Oh, yeah, and he's got the blonde bob. And then there's this kind of... What is this structure? Who even knows? It's a different guy. It's a different guy. Now, Icarus is like red and... Oh, yeah, and he's got the blonde bob. And then there's this kind of...
Starting point is 00:24:47 What is this structure? Who even knows? It's crazy. I like it. Yeah. Yeah, and look, maybe we will get more of that, but, yeah, it doesn't seem to have that much of that stuff. It just sort of looks like a stand.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Like, it's sort of... I think it feels more like they borrowed from, like, maybe, you know, the monoliths in 2001. Yeah. Like, it's just a... Their ship is just a big block of nothing. That's what I didn't really like about the aesthetic of Captain Marvel. Like we're on this other alien world,
Starting point is 00:25:11 but everything was just kind of green with a glow to it or whatever. And we're going through a city on a train, but it doesn't really look like anything. So I hope it's not that. Yeah. Yeah. But I think, look, I think probably if indeed a New Gods movie comes, are they cancelling the New Gods? I never mind then if anything the new gods movie will um
Starting point is 00:25:30 it counts at a four now i should point yeah that's true yeah but i don't know because warner's just got sold or something yeah remember we talked about oh that's true yeah yeah anyway character designs pretty fine with them but just just the wider universe I think should be wackier. I agree. Again, if this one is successful, they do a couple more, get Taika Waititi again. Exactly. He'll make it wacky
Starting point is 00:25:51 or someone will. Just make as, yeah, make four bland ones and then a really wacky one. That's right. Yep, and then cancel it.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Yeah, please. If you have any other thoughts, we can do that or I can talk about what JJ Abrams said about Star Wars. Oh, so here's the ship,
Starting point is 00:26:05 James. I'll show you. Show me the ship, Mason.J. Abrams said about Star Wars. Oh, so here's the ship, James. I'll show you. Show me the ship, Mason. Here's the eternal ship in the movie. Oh, yep, yep. Monolith. Big monolith. Here's the eternal ship arriving in Kirbyland. Ah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Bigger, wider. Shippier. Crackling Kirby dots. I'd ship that, Mason. You'd ship it? You'd be a stan of it? I'd make it kiss a different ship. Whoa. In my mind or whatever. Yeah, nice. Maybe I'd write a fanfic. Yeah, cool, cool, Mason. You'd ship it? You'd be a stan of it? I'd make it kiss a different ship.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Whoa. In my mind or whatever. Yeah, nice. Maybe I'd write a fanfic. Yeah, cool, cool, cool. Yeah. All right, let's move on to a different thing. Let's talk about this, Mason, because Collider spoke to JJ Abrams and he said you should plan out movies.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Me? Yeah, you specifically. What? Yeah, he said. I don't want to. No, you have to. I don't want to. I'm busy.
Starting point is 00:26:42 He said, Nick Mason, you just never know, really know. But having a plan, I have learned, in some cases the hard way is the most critical thing because otherwise you don't know what you're setting up. You don't know what to emphasise because if you don't know the inevitable of the story, are you just as good as your last sequence or effect or joke or whatever, but you need to be leading to somewhere, to something inevitable.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Of course, he's talking about the Star Wars movies in particular. But he could be talking about anything he's ever done. But I would say in his defense, he did the first one and then he wasn't going to do any more. That's true. And then he came back at the very last minute and made The Rise of Skywalker under probably a lot of Lucasfilm oversight
Starting point is 00:27:23 and time crunch and everything. He had to cover everything in that Notes app screenshot they sent him. Exactly. Remember to do this and this and this and this. And look, I don't like that movie, so I'm not defending it. But I think also The Last Jedi, I mean, the idea was to get different directors. And I think it would have worked better. Again, not everyone likes The Last Jedi. i know we do yes i know but i think they don't have to be planned
Starting point is 00:27:50 out meticulously if you get someone with a vision and you give them enough time yeah so i think yeah if you're doing all three and he was planning on which he wasn't yes you should plan it out or they should have been a rough structure in general even. But I do like the idea of getting three different directors and just being like, here you go. Here's $200 million. What can you do with this? Yeah, yeah. But you don't always get a good thing, obviously.
Starting point is 00:28:14 No, that's true. And I think like the ideal was, you know, to a lot of people, and I think probably to me as well, was like, first one ends on a cliffhanger, second one ends on a cliffhanger, third one, where's that going to go? Like it's sort of a vibe of like you know let make the creators think on their feet yeah and i think that would work you know but but that that clashes with um you know a multi-billion dollar corporation's idea of like now this has got a you you we don't you know there's we've got to sell we're gonna sell merch we've got uh you know we're gonna we're gonna hit all those story beats yeah we're gonna we you know we gotta know, we've got to sell merch. We've got to, you know, we're going to hit all those story beats.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Yeah. We've got contracts with stars. We can't just be like, well, it would make the most narrative sense to kill this character or whatever. Yeah. Because they've got three movies on their contract, so you can't do that, you know. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:59 So it's just creative license butts up against the bloody money men. You're not wrong. What I do really enjoy about a lot of expanded Star Wars material at the moment, a lot of which I do keep up with, is that every now and then I'll have to be like, and this was the Emperor's backup plan, so you know all those ships that he had? Yeah, so we're covering all of that.
Starting point is 00:29:19 So that's been a new thing in Star Wars comics I've noticed as of late, which I don't hate, but it's just fun to be like, it was always behind the scenes. He had a thousand ships you didn't even know. You didn't even know about these ships. But all the clues were there. Yeah. If you could interpret that rock over there. That's right. But yes,
Starting point is 00:29:38 you probably should plan your movies. Agreed. He's right. He is right. He's out of line, but he's right. What do you think about him doing Superman? Creed. He's right. He is right. He's out of line, but he's right. Yeah. What do you think about him doing Superman? Because I know there's been rumours that he might do a... Well, he's not doing the Ta-Nehisi Coates Superman that's coming out. What if he did like a...
Starting point is 00:29:56 Like a Superman flyby. Like a Henry Cavill Superman or whatever, yeah. Great. You know, he's a very competent filmmaker, which is why they give him millions of dollars. What if he made one, didn't make the second one, they hired someone for the third one, then they fired that person,
Starting point is 00:30:08 then people didn't like the second one, then they get him back? Do you like that? I mean, it's untested, isn't it? It's untested waters. But I'm going to say I probably wouldn't like that. Okay, fair enough. Look, I mean, as has been pointed out about J.J. Abrams,
Starting point is 00:30:23 he spent his entire career not writing an ending to anything. Until he had to. Until he had to. So yeah, give him the first movie in a trilogy. Yep. And for the second two, just some surefire people who will not make any trouble. Or any indie films in the interim to get themselves fired.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Sure. And then we won't have to do this again. That's probably a good point, yeah. Speaking of Star Wars actors though, Oscar Isaac has confirmed that he's Moon Knight. I thought he was Moon Knight, but it's been confirmed. Yeah, it's been confirmed. Okay. I mean, he is.
Starting point is 00:30:53 And he was. Yeah. So that's good. Yeah. Deadline are reporting, though, they're hearing from sources that Danai Aguilera will be returning as a Koye, General of the Dora Milaje in Ryan Coogler's upcoming Black Panther, Wakanda Forever, as well as reprising the character in an origin spin-off series for Disney+.
Starting point is 00:31:11 It also doesn't specify that it's her origin. It just says an origin spin-off. I presume it's hers. Yeah, right. A Koye one. Do you think she could become the new Black Panther? Potentially, yeah. I think there's a bunch of people that could do it,
Starting point is 00:31:23 but she'd be great, genuinely. Who's your pick? Who would you want to be? I want two or a team of.entially, yeah. I think there's a bunch of people that could do it, but she'd be great, genuinely. Who's your pick? Who would you want to be? I want two or a team of. Yeah, right. So you could do – Mbaku? Definitely.
Starting point is 00:31:33 You could do his sister because she's like the tech Black Panther. He's like the bruiser. She's like the warrior. You know what I mean? You could get a few of them. I think that's what I would do. And again, Martin Freeman. Put him in there.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Put him in there. That's fine. When is there going to be a White Panther? I think that's what I would do. And again, Martin Freeman, put him in there. Put him in there. That's fine. When is there going to be a white panther? Right? Is what we always say. We always say it. Seriously. We say it for serious for reals.
Starting point is 00:31:51 It's not a joke. It's never been a joke. Report on it as if it's real. So, yeah, everyone's getting a Disney Plus, it turns out. And why not? I can't wait. Yeah. One of the highlights of Falcon and Winter Soldier was the Dora Milaje
Starting point is 00:32:06 so I hope they're doing more with that group in particular. Yeah, yeah. It would be cool. And then they just beat up Captain America again. They just go around the world like setting off people's safety features. Knocking off arms and legs left and right. Just exploding airbags in cars.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Just anything they can get their hands on. Aaron Taylor-Johnson has apparently been locked down for multiple films as Kraven the Hunter, the popular Spider-Man character. Kraven. I saw a post recently that was like, on Twitter, that was something like, every male actor has been a superhero, so why not give him a second go? And jokes on them because it's his third go.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Yeah, kick ass. Yeah, you're right. hero so why not give him a second go and jokes on them because it's his third go yeah kick ass right yeah you're right so um my initial thought was he was in age of ultron i don't care but that was my initial thought because he looks different yes like he had a weird haircut and it's gone yeah and he's dead and whatever and i guess that's why they also didn't want to bring him back for wandavision i guess because that would be yeah because that would be fresh in people's minds. Are you a Kraven fan? I'm going to keep saying it.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Well, then I'm going to join you on this journey. I'm not a huge Kraven fan. Sure. You've read Kraven's Last Hunt, haven't you? I've read Kraven's Last Hunt. It's Kraven, by the way. Some people might not know. It's Kraven the Hunter.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Who is he? I've read Get Kraven, which is one where he goes to Hollywood, by the way. Some people might not know. It's Craven the Hunter. Who is he? I've read Get Craven, which is one where he goes to Hollywood in a weird way. And it's interesting because when we think of potential casting for a lot of characters, we go, okay, it's Craven the Hunter, big mountain man, he's a huge dude. Who would fit that profile? And realistically in Hollywood, it can be anybody at this point
Starting point is 00:33:44 because they put them through the process. You know the process drugs yes and and put a mustache on him and great makeup and whatever and he can look exactly like that character so you know i you know i like i like his work and things so yeah great probably be pretty good seems like we're going to get a solo movie off the front off the oh no, we already got that. Well, he gets his pelt. I thought I meant the Star Wars solo movie. I'm talking about a Kraven solo movie now, though. Yes. So basically, for those who don't know, he's a hunter, and he likes hunting the greatest game of all.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Mostly Spider-Man. Mostly. It just turns out he's just getting Spider-Man at a certain point, isn't he? Interesting character. I feel a good foil to Spider-Man. He's sort of got like Black Panther-esque herb powers sometimes. Sometimes panther-esque herb powers sometimes but he doesn't always need it um he's killed spider-man or thought he has or whatever sometimes he is spider-man he's done that for a bit um sometimes
Starting point is 00:34:35 the line on his chest shoots lasers out of its eyes yeah why didn't it do that when he tried to kill it i don't know that's up to him. Really good question. It's a great question. So, yeah, but this is from Variety, and Sony Pictures president Sanford Panitch, who says, on Spider-Man being in the Venom sequel, it'll be exciting if they do meet Wright. Wright? You said it, that guy.
Starting point is 00:35:02 What's his name again? Sanford Panitch. You said it, Sandy. That's right. And also, like, the vultures in Morbius. True. So this isn't a surprise. This was always going to happen whether Marvel liked it or not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:15 But there's actually a plan. This is what he's saying. Go on. I think now. I know people are surprised, but there's actually a plan. I think now it's getting a little more clear. Sorry to the haters, but there's actually a plan. I think now it's getting a little more clear. Sorry to the haters, but there's a plan. Sorry to JJ Abrams, who wasn't on board for this at one point.
Starting point is 00:35:31 A little more clear for people where we're headed, and I think when No Way Home comes out, it'll be even more revealed. Even more will be revealed. The great thing is we have this very excellent relationship with Kevin, Kevin Feige. There's an incredible sandbox there to play with we want those mcu movies to be absolutely huge because that's great for us and our marvel characters and i think that's the same thing on their side but we have a great relationship there's lots of opportunities i think that that are gonna happen so yeah what a
Starting point is 00:36:01 suck up yeah i think also like please let us be in your universe your big universe you already established over a decade plus your big bright universe and here we are over in our dank shadows
Starting point is 00:36:13 you know yeah making Venom sequels when I think of the Sony Spider-Verse I just think of like it's just dark and rainy
Starting point is 00:36:20 even though the Spider-Man movies are good yeah you're thinking about Venom and that Morbius trailer yes I am Yes, I am, yeah. Yeah, so we'll see how this goes, but I think
Starting point is 00:36:28 they're just, they're building the Sinister Six, right? That's what's happening here. Who's next? Well, there was a report this week, I'm not sure who it was from, but like, they're gonna get Willem Dafoe's Green Goblin and Doc Ock from those movies and then just put them all together, all these different universes. So presumably
Starting point is 00:36:44 that's what they're doing. Like some of the ones jump universes and then be like, now let's get this Spider-Man in particular. What about all the other Spider-Men? Oh, what about all the other Spider-Men, boys? Oh, my God, it's Nathan Drake. Run. Jeez, it's Nathan Drake.
Starting point is 00:36:59 He's killed a million people. He doesn't seem effective at all. He's a remorseless killer. He's so jovial though. Absolute psychopath. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Do you want a Jonker update?
Starting point is 00:37:15 Yeah, I'd love a Jonker update. Jonker 2 pig in the city. So this is by a deadline, but this is about the Wonka prequel, which is going to be a Wonka origin story. Oh, we to be a Wonka origin story. Oh, we are talking about Wonka and not Jonka. No, I presume in the vein of Jonka. So should this be an update where we both talk about Joker sequels
Starting point is 00:37:32 and Wonka prequels? We are going to talk about Joker sequels. But this is the Jonka segment. No, it's Jonka because it's Wonka, but it's Joker. I'm saying we're combining the two. Oh, you want to work together? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had something in between.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Oh, okay, fine. Whatever, man. I was saving that for the last bit of news because it's big news. Okay, all right. People can skip to it. Whatever. It doesn't really matter. So Timothy Charlemagne will play Wonka in the origin film.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Oh, I think. It's probably about how he enslaved all those pygmies or whatever. When he met all the Oompa Loompas. Where did he find them? In the forest. Another dimension. Yeah. No, I think it was in the jungle.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Okay. And he was like, why don't you work in a factory instead of living in this jungle? And the way he frames it in the book is that they were hunted by like a local creature. Okay. And so. Did he just kill the creature? No, slavery. Yeah, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:38:16 That's what he decided. Pop a glass elevator on it. Yeah. You ever read that book? Yeah. Brutal. Mm-hmm. Glass elevator.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Glass elevator one, yeah, yeah. God, it's absolute nonsense. It's kind of shocking how bad that book? Yeah. Brutal. Last Elevator. Last Elevator one, yeah, yeah. God, it's absolute nonsense. It's kind of shocking how bad that book is. Yeah. Is that everything then about Junker? Let me think. I feel like I haven't seen enough of Timothy Charlemagne. Like everybody loves him and I'm like I don't –
Starting point is 00:38:40 Yeah, what's he been in prior to this? Call me by your name or whatever. I didn't see that. I'm either right. So let me bring up a thing. But he's a young man and it's a young man's game been in prior to this? Call me by your name or whatever. I didn't see that. I'm either right. So let me bring up a thing. But he's a young man and it's a young man's game acting, isn't it? Very true, yeah. No old people in the acting game.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Get out of here. Oh, that one with Steve Carell where his son loves drugs? Didn't say it. What, we need to talk about Kevin? No, it's something like that, but it's not that. Great. I'm in some kind of weird. You went to Timothee Chalamet hole?
Starting point is 00:39:04 I'm in some kind of IMDB pro to timothy chalamet hole i'm in some kind of imdb pro situation whoa i didn't mean that i'm getting the charlemagne tv series which is apparently a different thing what where's his imdb i don't know i don't know maybe he's too cool for one it doesn't come up like i'm what is there a black hole on this guy how do you how do you spell his name? Timothy, with two E's at the end. There we go. I found it. I was spelling it so wrong, but it didn't come up.
Starting point is 00:39:31 You were spelling it William Shatner. I was, yeah. That'll do it. There we go. Filmography. And 43 bits of trivia. Give us some Chalamet trivia. I'm going to do the filmography first.
Starting point is 00:39:41 So Dune, obviously. So it all started in the Sweet Tooth short in 2008. Okay. So they did some short films. He was on Homeland. He was on Law and Order. He was on Royal Pains. He was on Worst Friends.
Starting point is 00:39:54 He was on Spinners. He was in Interstellar. That's right. He was the boy in Interstellar. Boy in Interstellar. Call Me By Your Name, Hot Summer Nights. He was in Lady Bird. I still haven't seen Lady Bird.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Beautiful Boy, that's the one we were talking about. Little Women. The King. Actually, I've seen The King. Have you seen Bird. I still haven't seen Lady Bird. Beautiful Boy, that's the one we were talking about. Little Women. The King. Actually, I've seen The King. Have you seen The King? Seems great. I really like The King. It's about a king. Yeah, The French Dispatch, and then Dune, and of course, Jonker, which is coming out soon, along with Don't Look Up. William Jonker. Yes. Gilliam
Starting point is 00:40:19 Jonker. Gilliam Jonker? Well, I never. Do you think he's going to get his hat? Yes. Cool. All right, time for the- Probably the monster's going to be wearing the hat. He has to get the hat?
Starting point is 00:40:31 He's like, well, I don't- He's like, I can kill the monster- Or? Or get the hat and take these impalumpas into slavery. I don't have time for both. Yeah. So I'll take the hat and the slavery. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:42 I don't even want the hat. But I'm going to do it because I want the slavery. Do you think he will get a leg injury that leads to the scene and the slavery. Yeah. I don't even want the hat, but I'm going to do it because I want the slavery. Do you think he will get a leg injury that leads to the scene when we first see William John Carr? I don't know whether he'll do that, but he'll definitely do a forward roll. I don't understand what context. Maybe it's out of the way of a monster.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Yeah. But he's going to do it. I'm going to put one earth dollar on that he gets a leg injury that leads to him. But he doesn't actually have an injury. I know. But that's not important. That's not important for how movies are produced these days.
Starting point is 00:41:14 It doesn't matter that he doesn't have a real leg injury. Yeah. They just want us to be like, hey, remember the time he seemingly had a leg injury and then he did a forward roll? What about this? Go on. He gets a leg injury. Go on did a forward roll. What about this? Go on. He gets a leg injury. Go on.
Starting point is 00:41:25 He's loving the cane, right? And then the doctor says, you don't need that cane anymore. And he goes, you know what? I think I'm going to hang on to it. Credits, Jonker. Says, Jonker, a film by Todd Phillips or whatever. Yeah, Todd Phillips is Gilliam Jonker. Nice.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Great. Yeah, nice. Do you think it'll be sinister or do you think it'll be heartwarming? No, I think it'll be sinister and weird, yeah. I think it'll be heartwarming. Great. Yeah, nice. Do you think it'll be sinister or do you think it'll be heartwarming? No, I think it'll be sinister and weird, yeah. I think it'll be heartwarming because people... Like the good one? Yeah, they like the good one. But he's dark, man.
Starting point is 00:41:53 But that's what I'm saying. But I think that's not... Like if you asked people about that movie, they wouldn't think about the death of all those children. Yeah. They would think, oh, remember all the fun? The kids in the TV or whatever? I think Timothee Chalamet is like a dark little boy though,
Starting point is 00:42:10 even though he's 25. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think you would hire somebody like him if you wanted like a bit of an edgy take on it. Sure. But I don't know. Yeah. I'm just excited for the movie Jonker 2023.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Same. Now, because two companies are buying every company. Go on. It's been confirmed that. Which of the two big companies has bought a big company this week? Amazon have purchased MGM. Congratulations, Amazon. You've done it again. You've done it.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Love it. Can you be stopped? No. No, no. Do you think it'll end up with one company? There'll only be one company left? Yes. What do you think? It'll be Disney or Amazon? There'll only be one company left? Yes. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:42:45 It'll be Disney or Amazon? Amazon. Amazon's much bigger than everyone else. I guess that's true. Yeah. Or it's some kind of crypto we don't see coming. Just that left field, just one guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Just one guy. Buys everything out. He bought Bitcoin when it was like one cent. Or something we don't even know about. Oh, yeah, that's actually even more likely. Yeah, that's probably, yeah. Because Bitcoin might be on the decline or the moment it is i'm keeping my ear to the grindstone anyway until that's grinding your ears off that's right open for bitcoin news so with the amazon's
Starting point is 00:43:14 purchase of mgm this is the sum of the stuff that they have the mgm grand that's right the third casino in oceans 11 bell. Belle something? Something, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just assume that I said that. Oh, you definitely would have. Rocky, Stargate, Handmaid's Tale, The Hoblet, Candid Man. The what? The Hoblet. You said...
Starting point is 00:43:35 All right. I've written these wrong here because they're fun joke ones. That is fun, actually, yeah. Candid Man, Robot Cop, Snack Eyes, Tomb Raider. What do you think about all those? Pretty good. Yeah. Reckon they might combine them all into one movie?
Starting point is 00:43:48 Yes. Yeah. Rocky Stargate, Handman's Tale, Hoblet, Candyman, Robot Cop, Snack Eyes, Tomb Raider. Yeah, very good. James Bond. Yes, well, that was a thing. They mentioned James Bond as the biggest one.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Apparently they're committed to a theatrical release for the James Bond franchise of Written in Brackets here for now because Money Talks and it's Amazon. That's right. And they'll just have that family killed who owns James Bond. Money Talks, Broccoli Walks, as they say. That's right. The classic saying.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Yeah, so we'll see. We're going to get spin-offs. I mean, maybe not next year, but there'll be a whole James Bond universe attempted at the very least. Yeah, so there you go. This is from Grubb on Twitch, who's a Twitch person. Okay, their name is Grubb.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Apparently. Okay. Aren't you on Twitch? No. Me neither. Never. But Grubb says... Go on.
Starting point is 00:44:45 This is my impersonation of this guy I don't know anything about. Well, here's my impression of Grub says. Go on. This is my impersonation of this guy I don't know anything about. Well, here's my impression of Grub. Hello. I'm a normal man. Normal man. Don't judge a book by its cover. Don't judge a Grub by his name. Anyway, time for lunch, which is worms.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Yeah. Some stereotypes are true, it seems. Some stereotypes are true, it seems. So Square Enix, apparently working on a Guardians of the Galaxy game. You might recognise Square Enix because they made that Avengers game recently. They sure did, yeah. And it fucking sucks.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Okay, but do they have... Is Square Enix one of those companies that has a bunch of different development teams? Yes, they are one of those companies that bought up a bunch of other companies. Oh, my God. Amazon style. I love it.
Starting point is 00:45:26 They have Crystal Dynamics. Who do you think is going to get that? I guess Disney would buy them. If somebody's going to buy Square Enix, it'd be Disney, right? I guess. Because they just did the Marvel thing. But Disney also not really about video games.
Starting point is 00:45:35 That's true. For now. Crystal Dynamics did the Marvel game. They also did the Tomb Raider games. I think it's unfair to be like Crystal Dynamics made a bad game because I think the core of that game is good, but everything around that game is bad. I played two of the new Tomb Raider games. I think it's unfair to be like Crystal Dynamics made a bad game because I think the core of that game is good, but everything around that game is bad.
Starting point is 00:45:47 I played two of the new Tomb Raider games. They're good. Same. And I bought the third one and played it and went, eh. I think you had to make a village, and I'm like, I don't want to make a village. I just want to hit someone in the back of the head with a pickaxe. Right?
Starting point is 00:45:58 Yeah. So that's what I think. So they also have Luminous Production, Eidos. So they've got a bunch. Loved Eidos back in the day, James. What are they working on? I can't remember. Me neither.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I'm going to look it up. One thing. A second thing. The Bellagio. Thank you. A third thing. Thank God. Grubb also mentioned that he'd heard the company was working on the title,
Starting point is 00:46:18 but was now ready to confirm the game is real and will be made by Square Enix. So we don't know what it is, what it's about. Presumably it's some kind of third-person action something, I assume. What have you got for my DOS, Mason? Okay. They're known for Tomb Raider, Legacy of Kain, the Legacy of Kain games where you were a vampire man, Deus Ex, the Deus Ex games.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Oh, yeah, I did look this up, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hitman, the old ones. Yep. Let's see. The Thief Games Gex was an idea
Starting point is 00:46:47 Sleeping Dogs a lot of people like Sleeping Dogs yeah people do like Sleeping Dogs Gex again Into the Gecko Carmageddon did they? yep
Starting point is 00:46:54 that's right never played Carmageddon the Reservoir Dogs game from 2006 yeah I remember that wasn't that controversial? probably I think they did the heist
Starting point is 00:47:03 because it came out 12 years after the movie came out. People were outraged. What are you even doing? No one's going to buy this. If you were going to make any game, you'd make a Kill Bill game. That's right. What the fuck is wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:47:14 It's madness. Sorry, 14 years. It came out 14 years after the movie. Great. Well, they did make a Scarface video game. That's true, yeah. And a Godfather video game. Anyway, great. Whatever that bit of news was, good. I loved it. What was it? Yeah. Scarface video game That's true yeah And a Godfather video game Yeah Anyway Great
Starting point is 00:47:25 Whatever that bit of news was Good I loved it What was it? Yeah Guardians of the Galaxy via Grub This is via the Happy Sad Confused podcast
Starting point is 00:47:32 They spoke to Zack Snyder And they asked If he would bring back Affleck and Cavill To do A Dark Knight Returns movie Okay
Starting point is 00:47:41 And he said No I don't think so I think it would just be It's own thing Yeah I think it would just be its own thing. Yeah, I think it would just be its own thing. I would just do it 100% Watchmen style, really frame accurate, really do it. I don't think it would be that expensive, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:47:54 I don't think so. It's pretty gritty. So that's what he would do with this movie that Warner Brothers will not let him make. They also opened up about his Star Wars movie because there was rumours that he was going to do one. But apparently he spoke to George Lucas in the mid-2000s after the prequels to make a Seven Samurai-style Star Wars movie.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Okay. This was even before the merger. Maybe they had conversations since, but I doubt this is going to happen because he says, I'm just going to make it. I'm going to make a space western, but it's not going to be Star Wars. So, yeah, why not? Or develop it at the very least.
Starting point is 00:48:27 You know what he could do? He could do a remake. You know there was that movie Battle Beyond the Stars? Yes. Which was Magnificent Seven, but in space. Yes. Remake of that. Seems like the path of least resistance.
Starting point is 00:48:36 It's fine, isn't it? It's absolutely fine. Also, Star Wars is sort of Seven Samurai in some ways, isn't it? Some of it. Or the Hidden Fortress and a bunch of other stuff. Anyway. I think I mentioned this before. There's a YouTuber called Noah Caldwell Gervais.
Starting point is 00:48:51 He does those very long videos about mostly video games. I think I've sent a few of them. You did, yeah. But he did one recently on Knights of the Old Republic, and it's about those Star Wars games, but also about how that, you know, the Hero of a Thousand Faces, the book that sort of led. Oh, my God, he did Dark Forces.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Oh, he did. Yeah, he did a Dark Forces one. Oh, my God, I didn't know this. I'm so interested to watch it later. It's my favourite. But he did. The Knights of the Old Republic video was partially about the games and also partly about how because George Lucas created Star Wars
Starting point is 00:49:25 using some elements from Hero of a Thousand Faces, the novel, it's about hero myths throughout history. People saw the success of that, and now 90% of cinematic fiction is based on Hero of a Thousand Faces. The book is basically, it's kind of like all dramatic stories are based on this essential element of the human mind, and we stories are based on like this essential element of the human mind and we all instinctively go to this. And it's like it's not necessarily true, but since that worked for Star Wars,
Starting point is 00:49:53 now everybody's like, we've got to go with that. We're going to do that. Which is why a lot of movies are all exactly the same now. Sounds like something Jordan Peterson would say all the time. But he'd say it in that Kermit the Frog voice. I hadn't heard him talk until quite recently. It's crazy, right? Really?
Starting point is 00:50:11 Yeah. He also said he confirmed this with Josh Horowitz, who you might know. He's a great interviewer. He's always doing an interview. He's good at it too. He's always getting out information. They asked about whether Man of Steel was ever going to be part of the Dark Knight universe, which I suspected.
Starting point is 00:50:23 I always suspected. And he said this. Yes. It was not 100% off the table. I always suspected, and he said this. Yes. It was not 100% off the table. We did talk about it a little bit. It would have been Joseph, as in Joseph Gordon-Levitt, which would have been cool. As Superman.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Batman. Right. Because he was Batman in the Dark Knight. He was in the Dark Knight Rises, yeah. And he would have met Henry Cavill as Superman. Right, interesting. I like that his thing doesn't get muddled by these other touches. But I knew it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:45 I always suspected. Like Nolan being on board as a producer wanting to keep the Dark Knight universe alive, it makes total sense that they would have at least considered it. Sometimes, though, I think Zack Snyder does throw out stuff just to see what will happen. Yeah, you might be right. He'd be like, yeah, of course we did. Or you could just say that I'm right, Mason. You could just yes and me.
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Starting point is 00:52:10 not alone. Help CAMH build a future where no one is left behind. So, who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Um, last bit of news by The Hollywood Reporter. Joker 2 is in the works, apparently. Ah, some more Jonker news. Terrific. No, no, this is different. Jonker is...
Starting point is 00:52:32 No, but it's part of the Jonker expanded universe, which is both Willy Wonka and Joker movies. And with Chuck and Cruella in there as well, that counts. Yes, sounds good to me. So Todd Phillips is going to co-write. Put Solo in there. Yeah, why not? Todd Phillips is going to co-write,
Starting point is 00:52:47 who directed the first and wrote the first. I would say he's probably going to co-write. Put Solo in there. Yeah, why not? Todd Phillips is going to co-write, who directed the first and wrote the first. I would say he's probably going to return to direct. We don't know anything else beyond this except that, of course, they're going to do this because that movie made a billion fucking dollars. Made literally a billion dollars, didn't it? So I'm kind of interested, though, to see how they're going to come at this again. Are they going to build it into its own Batman universe universe is there going to be multiple jonkers running about well this is from i saw this tweet this is from tyler glale on twitter who i think is a game developer and they said i hope joker 2 is another origin story for a new different joker just a universe
Starting point is 00:53:19 where everyone becomes the joker independently and starts stepping on each other's toes big floppy shoes. Next tweet. The public starts getting tired of it after a while. Someone stands up and starts talking about society and the crowd shouts, we get it, just put on the makeup already. That would be great. There's multiple Jokers.
Starting point is 00:53:38 And they're all just killing Wayne families. Yeah, why not? Just finding different Wayne families like the Terminator. Like Sarah Connor. Yeah. Just go through the phone book. And it would be the phone book because it's the 80s or something. That's right. That a different Wayne family. Just anyone. Like the Terminator. Like Sarah Connor. Yeah. Just go through the phone book. And it would be the phone book because it's the 80s or something. That's right.
Starting point is 00:53:47 That's how you know. That's how you know. Set dressing. Yeah. Do you remember phone booths? And do you remember how they'd have phone booths? I remember the movie phone booths. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:54 But do you remember there were phone books in phone booths? Yes. And you could flick through a grubby phone book. Yeah, yeah. To find a number. But eventually all those phone books were torn off and used to beat people. That's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:04 I think I've talked about this, but I passed one of those relatively recently with my son. A beating? Yeah, a phone book. Yeah, a beating. And I'm like, yeah, that's a beating. It's a standard beating. Sure.
Starting point is 00:54:12 But then he said- So straighten up. Yeah, and he said, what's that behind the beating? And I said, oh, that's a phone book. No one's ever wondered that before. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, what we'll do, we'll call mum. We'll call mum on it.
Starting point is 00:54:22 But I called Claire, but she didn't pick up because, of course, it's a weird random number. Weird random number. She'd be like, oh, what we'll do, we'll call mum. We'll call mum on it. But I called Claire, but she didn't pick up because of course it's a weird random number. Weird random number. She'd be like, no. So I'm like, this would have been a great experience, but it's not. But it was a bad experience. You can also text on...
Starting point is 00:54:37 Free? No. You can text on a public phone. On the way you used to. Yeah, old school style. I hated that. But it's all... I can't remember pointing this out. But it's all, I can't remember
Starting point is 00:54:45 pointing this out, but it's all caps. So anytime you send, it's always, Just a cry for help. So whenever, because you can't do lowercase, so whenever anybody gets it,
Starting point is 00:54:54 so if you lost your phone and you sent a text or something, you sent a text to somebody, it's from an unknown number and it's all caps. So you've got to be very careful about
Starting point is 00:55:01 what you are texting to somebody. And it costs you 60 cents for 30 characters or whatever. Yeah, probably. Yeah, great. All right, Mason, that's been a lot of news, hasn't it? Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Mine grey. Madness. Madness. You just looked off in the middle of the distance and you were like, madness. There's an ad-free feed of this if you're at bigsandwich.co, which goes up a day early. But if not, here's the ad for this week. Okay, everybody, everybody listening to this,
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Starting point is 00:56:21 They look rough and ready, but they're not boring. They just look a little... They're a great outdoor watch. That's what I love? I love their field watches. They look rough and ready, but they're not boring. They just look a little... They're a great outdoor watch. That's what I like to hear. I mean, I'm not a huge fan of the outdoors, but I can't pretend. Wow, that's amazing. You're a real chameleon. It's also got an unbeatable price point because movement watches,
Starting point is 00:56:37 they have the look and quality of a $400 to $500 watch. You know, something you'd pay at a department store if you were so inclined to make it. Yeah, if you wanted to make a terrible decision. If I went outside. Yes, right. But they cost a fraction of the price because they're built online and they own their process from start to finish. So you get a beautiful watch shipped right to your door for free.
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Starting point is 00:57:53 I'm with the show. A bit rude, but all right, yes. All right, everybody. It's time for us to talk about Everybody Shut Up Part 2, the sequel. Everybody just shut, pipe down. Whatever. Big aliens.
Starting point is 00:58:06 There's big aliens, there's big monsters. You guys need to calm down. It's your own time you're wasting. That's right. And your own family. It's your own family you're getting wasted. Now, last time we talked about A Quiet Place, we couldn't get a guest on.
Starting point is 00:58:17 We didn't have the technology. Podcasting hadn't come that far yet, had it? That's true, yeah. But luckily things have been updated since 2018. There wasn't anyone worthy of being a guest when we talked about the last Acquired Place, which if I remember correctly was pretty okay. Yeah. But someone stepped up to the plate.
Starting point is 00:58:34 They've stepped up their podcasting game. So this week we are joined by my wife, the lovely Claire Taunton. We do a podcast together, don't we, Claire? We certainly do. It's called Suggestible. I'm here. And also I'm ruining your chemistry. That's what we love. We do a podcast together, don't we, Claire? We certainly do. It's called Suggestible. I'm here. And also, I'm ruining your chemistry. That's what we love.
Starting point is 00:58:48 We like people coming in. We like people stepping on our jokes. We like people getting mad that we have guests. Those are all the things that we enjoy. And I'm happy to oblige. I'm here. I'm here to do all those things for you. Now, we've got you on specifically because you're not a horror fan, but...
Starting point is 00:59:02 I thought you were going to say you're not horrible. Yeah, you're not horrible. And I'm glad you don't think I am. Mason and I have decided, we took a poll, and we decided that you're not horrible. Who do we know that's not horrible? Also, we're living in lockdown time, so I'm the only guess you could get, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Yeah, well, that's also true. That is right. But no, you're not a horror fan, but you were a fan of A Quiet Place Part 1. Is that correct? Definitely. I loved A Quiet Place 1. I loved it so much until you told me about all the plot holes.
Starting point is 00:59:31 That's what I love to do. You genuinely do. Yeah. I'm that guy at a party. Oh, that's your favourite movie, is it? Oh, that's your favourite movie? Well, how did Batman even get back into the city? Claire, oftentimes we play a game where you tell me about a comedian
Starting point is 00:59:45 that you love and then I tell you all the horrible behind-the-scenes things that make you like them less. You've done that to me so many times. I get so mad at you. I get more mad at you than at the actual comedian. Yeah, that's right. You're the real monster, Mason. Turns out everyone I like is horrible, including you two.
Starting point is 01:00:03 She's not bloody wrong, am I right, Mason? Well, we're softening the blow. Yeah. Yeah, no. All those comedians you like, they're terrible. The other two you don't like, we're also terrible. That's it. So this movie, just to clarify some stuff,
Starting point is 01:00:17 it was supposed to come out March of last year. There was a big pandemic. You all remember it. We all had it. We all had the same one. I'm glad it's all over. Oh, Claire, so naive. We're back in one. We're back in lockdown now, aren't we, Mason? That's right. We all remember it. We all had it. We all had the same one. I'm glad it's all over. Oh, Claire, so naive. We're back in one. We're back in lockdown now, aren't we, mate? That's right. We're back again.
Starting point is 01:00:29 But this new one had a budget of $61 million and it looks... This new lockdown. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Which is not enough to give people all the money to survive. No, so the movie had a budget of $61 million. How many? $61 million. That's so many. Yeah, I agree. It's many millions. Many millions.
Starting point is 01:00:45 US dollars? US dollars. Or dollary dues? No, US dollary dues aren't worth jack shit. Is that how I say it? That's how you say it. Dollary dues. You're really endearing yourself to fans of both The Simpsons and this podcast.
Starting point is 01:00:57 But it looks like in its four-day weekend, it's going to make $57 million in the US alone, which means it's doing really well considering the lockdown is easing in most places. It actually beat out Cruella in the cinemas. You keep saying it as Cruella. It's Cruella. No, it's Cruella. It's Cruella. Every time he says Cruella and I go, what?
Starting point is 01:01:15 Like the bird. Like the mandolin, like the captain's mandolin. Thank you, mate. I did the same thing the other day. I said, what the bloody talking about? So it's Cruella. Yes. Cruella the birds that like circle a house.
Starting point is 01:01:28 It's Toyota Cruella. Anyway, so we'll probably talk about Cruella on Suggestible this week. Because our podcast is basically this, but without Nick Mason. We had a poll and we decided, you didn't make the cut actually. We had him on one episode, but we decided after that We had a poll and we decided, you didn't make the cut actually. Oh, we had him on one episode. Oh, you did? We decided after that it was so bad. No more.
Starting point is 01:01:49 We got many complaints. But yeah, so we basically just recommend stuff, don't we? We'll watch, read and listen and whatever. Correct. It's called Suggestible. That's right. And I suggest that everybody looks at Nick Mason's amazing reindeer jumper. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Let's all have a look. Let's all look in this audio media. So, I mean, that's your episode of Suggested for this week, aren't I, guys? Just flip that and put it in. Opening titles, put an ad in, and then... We're good to go. Bob's your uncle.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Anyway, that's Link to Belong. It comes out Thursday. There's a huge back catalogue. People do want to check it out. But, Mason, what do you think the story was? Hey, Claire, what do you think the story was? Whoa! Oh, no!
Starting point is 01:02:23 A deflection. Yeah, that's right. A deflection. No one prepared me for this. All right. The story is. Was. What?
Starting point is 01:02:31 What? What do you think the story was? Do you mean in the past or now? No, is, was, was. Was. Sorry, was. What do you think it was? All right.
Starting point is 01:02:40 I'm going to. Okay. Do I do it seriously? Do I set the scene? We do it seriously. Do I tell the story? We take it very seriously, Claire. All right. Okay. Anyway, I'm on my phone now. All right, I'm going to – okay, do I do it seriously? Do I set the scene? We do it seriously. Do I tell the story? We take it very seriously, Claire. All right, okay.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Anyway, I'm on my phone now. All right. He just tapped out. That's okay, Mesa. You can tap out. I'll just tell everyone. Everyone get comfy. Everyone get cozy.
Starting point is 01:02:56 This has to be short, by the way. I'm going to tell a story. Yeah. I'm going to start at the very beginning. No, no, because that was the first movie. At the dawn of time. No, really. Is it quick short sharp just all right so of the first movie or the second one well i mean they blend into each other don't they
Starting point is 01:03:13 all right so it was silent because of the big monsters that came yep and then there's family and then a kid got taken and then there was less kids by one. Yes, but. But John Krasinski, a.k.a. How do you feel about that, Claire? When there's one less kid, how would you feel? Oh, look, not totally happy. Well, they fill the void because they have another kid. Yeah, but also it would be easier with like a family too. I mean, emotionally probably not as much.
Starting point is 01:03:38 No, but, you know, like if you're living in an apocalypse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You tell what I wouldn't do. I wouldn't have bloody get up the duff again. That's what I wouldn't do. No, you really wouldn't, yeah. In an apocalypse. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:03:48 But that's what she does. They're a hot and heavy Hollywood couple. So of course they're going to get up the duff. They get up the duff in the quiet place where it's no noise. Yep. And she knows she has to give birth at some point where she has to scream all the time a lot. This is a great recap of the other movie. Because you're doing really well.
Starting point is 01:04:03 All right. So fast forward. She gives birth. The big monster was chasing her. And then she like gives birth in a bathtub. This is a great recap of the other movie because you're doing really well. So fast forward, she gives birth, the big monster was chasing her and then she like gives birth in a bathtub, who knows why
Starting point is 01:04:09 and then everything's fine except, oh no, Jessica Sinstein's dead, the dad and so now she's stuck with two kids, a baby
Starting point is 01:04:15 and no husband. Dumb. Don't get up the duff in a pandemic. Man, useless. No, I did that. I got up the duff in a pandemic.
Starting point is 01:04:22 You were pre-pandemic. But that is not apocalypse. Yes, correct. Number two. I've said the scene in a pandemic. You were pre-pandemic. But that is not apocalypse. Yes. Correct. Number two. I've said the scene in the one. Okay. Now, can I? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:30 I want you to. I want you to do it. Is this every week on Suggestions? Is this how it goes? Pretty much. Huh. So number two, it's still quiet. No one says anything.
Starting point is 01:04:41 They're still monsters. Yep. Except they figured out that the girl who is deaf has a hearing aid and if she puts it on the speaker, then the monsters die. Yep. For some reason. Yeah. But not completely.
Starting point is 01:04:53 You have to hit them in the face with a gun. That's correct. And they, for some reason, leave their home and put the baby in a box. Yeah. And then they go on adventures. I can't do any more spoilers. Yeah, that's true. And then that's it.
Starting point is 01:05:06 The way we do things, we do non-spoilers, do some vagueralities. I meant to rewatch the first one. Why are they leaving the farm? Because they saw a fire across the ridge. Yeah. Oh, is that why? Yeah. And it was coming?
Starting point is 01:05:19 No, no, they saw like a signal fire. Oh, I thought you meant there was a fire coming. The signal fire, does that signify like just that there's more people around or that there's like people that are going to save them or something just the first one i think yeah but see that's what didn't make sense to me okay it's just because there's other people around doesn't mean they're going to be great which turns out spoiler alert could be true or not true or not true that's so true um for me this feels very much the same as the first one i think i might have liked it a bit better because all the rules are established and things kind of moved forward.
Starting point is 01:05:48 I liked that it moved locations even though I didn't understand why you were there. You liked it. Well, I liked what you were saying, Claire, like the world, like we get a sense that this is like this really kind of provincial world where like you don't even know what's happening one town over. Yeah. Like you can't even. You just can't even. You just can't even.
Starting point is 01:06:05 You just can't even in this world. Yeah, because the sand track ends, and then who knows what's after. And it's like you can't call someone, even if the electricity or the mobile service was working. If you called another town, you could get everyone murdered there. Yeah. So it's like living in a medieval world where you could be attacked by monsters at any moment.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Yeah. So like a regular medieval world. The monster is a cow. Yeah, a cow would kill you in medieval times. A silent cow? A cow that likes noise. Yeah, both, I reckon. They had both then, I think, didn't they?
Starting point is 01:06:38 Right. Exactly. Yeah, I did like also that it picked up straight after the last one. I liked that they knew that because they had the whiteboard that says, what is the weakness? I know that was one of your favourite things from the last one. Absolutely, yeah. The whiteboard of exposition.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Do you think they rewrote it? Because you have to get that perfect. No, I reckon that's probably not even real. I reckon that's probably like they took a screen grab of the previous one and they visual effected it onto a green screen. So they didn't have to do any changes. Yeah, absolutely. I did.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Unless they were like, this is going to be so good, we are definitely getting a sequel. So just leave everything as it is. Touch the whiteboard. Just leave this town abandoned. Keep everybody out of this town. We evicted thousands of people from this town. Let's keep them out for a couple of years.
Starting point is 01:07:24 It's pretty incredible they managed to – I mean, I guess they kept all the sets and they had the location, but it looks pretty much the same as the first one. Again, I didn't rewatch the first one, but it does feel like they were filmed at the same time. I also really just liked the setup of the beginning of the second one. I just really loved seeing John Krasinski again as well. I love him.
Starting point is 01:07:45 No, I just think he's quite and funny and he wrote and directed it and it's cool. But what I don't understand is he keeps saying in interviews that he wrote both of them as a love letter for his kids. It's a pretty bloody scary love letter is what I'm saying. How does that work? That he loves his kids so much he would protect them in an apocalypse? Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:08:03 And he read it to them at night? Anyway, and then a monster took your brother. And then it took me. And I didn't come back. I wasn't in the sequel. That's right. But that's what I mean. I don't know because isn't it –
Starting point is 01:08:15 You're not good at baseball. I'm still around but just in your memories because I'm dead. Yeah, that's what I mean. Anyway, goodnight forever. Yeah, that's what I mean. I just goodnight forever. Yeah, that's what I mean. I just find it really like quite a weird thing to say, even though I get it. Like the sentiment is beautiful.
Starting point is 01:08:32 It's about survival and family. Yeah, but like of course you would want to protect your kids in an apocalypse. And the whole kind of point of it is how great he is at protecting them. He's so awesome that he like manages to protect them until mean until he dies the novelty would be if he was like i wanted to write a movie about how i wouldn't protect my kids in the event of an apocalypse and it's just him forrest gump running just out of the states i'm off to the hollywood hills just up the hill james you were right in the eye again i didn't go back and watch the first one but it feels like all the kids are still the same age. Is that just because I can't tell the difference
Starting point is 01:09:07 between an eight-year-old and a nine-year-old? I think it's that, but I think it's also this movie should have been out by a year. Oh, that's true. So it would have been filmed quite close to the previous one. So I think for the next one, which they will do, I think they'd have to do a small time jump. Because I feel like this one feels like the middle one in a trilogy yeah it just doesn't feel finished well my complaint of this is it feels like an episode
Starting point is 01:09:28 of a show in the middle of like an eight-part series okay so so the the scene is sort of still being established yeah we're not up to the big reveal of the big bad guy i reckon there's an even bigger scarier monster that can hear even less what are you right no more you can hear even less. What are you saying? No, more. More. You can hear even more. I was going to say more. No, it can't hear as much. Whoa. What I really enjoy then is James doing your actual visual kind of thing of the monster.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Kind of like a weird goose-stepping octopus just flailing about. Did anyone else feel it, because it was 97 minutes long, which I think was a little bit longer than the first one. Did anyone else feel like it was just kind of getting going and it didn't reach like a satisfying conclusion? Yeah, that's what I mean. It just didn't feel, it felt too short. The other thing that really annoyed me, Emily Blunt, who I always
Starting point is 01:10:13 love as Evelyn, as the, you know, sort of the main character, I guess, in this, that scratching. Or something's trying to get in. Or something's trying to get in. Oh God, be silent. It's that monster that can hear less. It's fine. We should be all right.
Starting point is 01:10:28 We can still talk. It's okay. Just trying to remember. It can only hear when you see. What's going on in there? So you can talk, but there's just no joy in your life. Yeah, exactly. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Anyway, Emily Blunt, I thought was so great in this. Emily Blunt and Millicent Simmons, who's her daughter, Regan, I thought were the two standouts. She's really good, yeah. She's amazing. They're all really good. Oh, they are. I mean, yeah, Noah Jupe, everyone is really good.
Starting point is 01:10:57 What I liked about Emily Blunt's character is how miserable she looks through the whole thing. I really believe her misery and her love of her kids and all that stuff. But what annoyed me was that she's just given birth and she doesn't breastfeed. She doesn't breastfeed in a single bit. I was going to ask you specifically about how you feel about a woman who just gave birth.
Starting point is 01:11:20 In a bathtub. In a bathtub. Then the last movie like racks a shotgun and looks at the camera and goes, let's go or whatever happens. And they run across town. How do you feel about all that? Yeah, all right. So, look, I, to be fair, I've had a friend who gave birth in two hours
Starting point is 01:11:35 and felt like she could hike up a mountain afterwards because of all the adrenaline. So when you first give birth, I believe that. If it went, I mean, obviously it's all about feeling comfortable and safe, and she did it in a bath tub with a giant monster approaching, probably not the feeling of safety that a woman would normally want in her birth plan. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:53 However, yeah. The doctor doesn't put it in the birth plan a lot. Can you ask for that? Yeah. Please have a monster that can hear less or more. Anyway, yeah. So, and then the trauma of a partner dying that stuff but i do think a little bit plausibly she could have got all that adrenaline and hormones and somehow be like
Starting point is 01:12:12 bleeding internally whatever but do it all it's the mom can lift the car syndrome thank you and protect your kids and all the things yeah but what i don't get is like after that all dissipates, she's like immediately hiking. She's like, right, I know what we need to do. Leave our home with all the food and all the things and immediately take my baby. Carrying a chest. Carrying a chest with my baby with only one oxygen tank, which clearly is going to run out.
Starting point is 01:12:40 I mean, would you have stayed if it was you? Yeah, immediately, yes. Because they had food and all the stuff. And also she's just bloody given birth. She's not frigging sleeping. And the thing that annoyed me the most was the bloody breastfeeding thing because she has to keep her child alive and the monsters are chasing her. And everyone knows you need to relax in order to breastfeed.
Starting point is 01:12:59 I'm shocking all the people on the podcast right now. It is shocking. It's shocking. But it really annoyed me. But isn't the first few days of breastfeeding all about getting the colostrum and it's really about waiting for your milk to come in? He's showing his expertise now. Just saying, Mason.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Show off. This is what Mason told me before the show. So I'm really – this is really his words. Correct. Well, yeah, exactly. Correct, James. You spot on. So it works out.
Starting point is 01:13:21 But there's just – I would have loved – I actually, as a woman, I hate when people say that. But anyway, I will. I love it. I think it works out. But there's just, I would have loved, I actually, as a woman, I hate when people say that, but anyway. I love it. I think it's empowering. I only hate it when men say it because it's inaccurate. I don't want to come onto the podcast and immediately be like, you know what I want to talk about? Breasts, because I'm a woman.
Starting point is 01:13:36 No, but that annoyed me because I think there's an opportunity there to explore the fact that she's given birth and the aftermath of that and just how much harder but all they kind of show for how hard it is is that she limps a little bit yeah and that's probably from the nail she's yeah she stepped on that nail so there doesn't really seem to be any other kind of effects from that yeah so i don't know but but even so i really enjoyed it and i really liked how they positioned Millicent Simmons' character, Regan, as kind of the hero. She's the new John Krasinski.
Starting point is 01:14:08 She is apparently. She's the new Jack Ryan. Because it's a love letter to his children and he needed to somehow get in the fact how amazing he is. Yeah, my love letter to you is how you're a lot like me. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm really at a problem with. You're not like your mother, you're like me.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Yeah, exactly. really had a problem with like you're not like your mother you're like me yeah exactly i also just really loved how they centered um deafness and american sign language as the heroism of the story in like it's kind of all part of it which is really i think that's really cool about how their story of survival is more effective than everybody else's based on that alone because that would be the one thing that you know you would have an advantage over than everybody else's based on that alone because that would be the one thing that, you know, you would have an advantage over literally everybody else that you come across. Totally.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Yeah. Yeah. I am, and I. Except a guy with a flamethrower. That's all I'm saying. No, they're flamethrower proof. We see that in the movie. I feel that's a plot hole.
Starting point is 01:15:00 That's a plot hole. That's a plot hole, guys. That's what I didn't understand. Why didn't they just keep shooting them Because you've got to wait Until their heads are Oh yeah because they have the weapon They have the weapon
Starting point is 01:15:10 So they use it initially Why don't they just keep doing that Making the noise Shooting them in the face Yeah Boom What I liked about the monsters this time Is you see more of them
Starting point is 01:15:19 I always like the way that they move They're kind of like tarantula like Yeah There's something really unnerving About the way that they move And maybe they have a second weak. Two weaknesses? Put that on your whiteboard times two?
Starting point is 01:15:30 Big rolled up newspaper, isn't it? Put them in a big jar. Take them outside, put them in the garden. But it seems like when you kill the one or two in your area, I think it's three because that's what it says on the whiteboard, then they kind of fill in the gap and, like, more appear. You could just kind of do that until you get most of them. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:15:50 You could every day go out and just reel another one in and shoot it in the head. You could just do that every day. But that's what I mean. Why didn't they just stay in the house and do that? It's stressful. Yeah, that would be stressful. I'd feel stressed out doing that every day.
Starting point is 01:16:02 I'd be like, ooh. Do you think you'd get used to it? Nope. I'd become like a oh. Do you think you'd get used to it? Nope. I'd become like a chore. Yeah. Yeah. I think also that there's kind of two storylines before we get into spoilers where the family splits off and one of them goes with Killian Murphy.
Starting point is 01:16:16 And I thought Killian Murphy's character was really interesting, more so than John Krasinski's because he's clearly deeply flawed. And from the moment you're introduced in him, but we didn't mention, but up top there is a flashback where John Krasinski's because he's clearly deeply flawed. And from the moment you're introduced in him, but we didn't mention, but up top there is a flashback where John Krasinski is in it. And he's like, you and me are good friends, Kelly and Murphy. Yes. We know each other.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Let's do a manly handshake. You're not as good as me, but you're okay. You're deeply flawed as a man. Yeah. But you'll do all right. Like I said before, I really enjoyed that. I can keep my family alive. Killian Murphy.
Starting point is 01:16:48 More like Killian your family. Murphy, that's your name. But yeah, I thought he was a really interesting and compelling character that has a really great arc and you kind of don't know what way he's going to go because when you meet him, it's like this guy's on the fucking edge. This could go any which way and I thought that was interesting. Yeah liked some of the stuff that i like maybe i didn't think about it in the first one but just the fact that they're walking around with no shoes on is very tense the whole movie is just me going i got soft baby feet like and but it's it's interesting that such
Starting point is 01:17:18 a simple thing is so like that works it works for me at least in like ratcheting up the tension it's just like why not why not take their shoes off that's oh it's a great point but yeah but i like i i liked uh that yeah we did kind of get we kind of at one point we sort of have like three separate plots yeah threads that are all sort of coming to air tension wise at the same time i thought that was very effective and there were a lot. And there are a lot of setups in this that have kind of payoffs that are kind of a bit on the nose where you're like, really, okay, is that? Is it this thing?
Starting point is 01:17:52 Yeah, it's that thing. Yeah, I'm doing the thing. But at least there are setups that have payoffs as opposed to some movies we've seen recently that are all set up and no payoff. Sure. Army of the Dead. Did you watch Army of the Dead, Claire? It's on Netflix.
Starting point is 01:18:07 If I said yes, would you fall off your chair? Sure. Yes. I'm not going to fall off my chair because I know she's lying. You wouldn't sit down for the thousand hours that Army of the Dead goes for. No, I would never watch anything called Army of the Dead. Are you serious? I get mad at you when you show me something slightly scary.
Starting point is 01:18:23 But I make you watch Army of the Dead. Yeah, you do. I seriously do. If it's too scary, I stand up and get real mad. It's like when you fart in the room and I get really mad at you. I would never. I would never. You do.
Starting point is 01:18:34 They're the ones where we've had the worst fight, when it's so stinky and I'm all cosy in bed. No, it's no good. Well, you should have put it in our vows for me not to do that. I should have, Macy. I should have. I also thought there were some story elements in this movie where you could have spread that over a lot of hours for me not to do that. I should have, Macy. I should have. I also thought there was some story elements in this movie where you could have spread that over a couple of movies
Starting point is 01:18:48 because they run into kind of two groups of people with vastly different living experiences. And we don't really get enough of either, I feel. I feel like one of the movies. There should have been one movie about group one and the next could be about group two. Or more of like, you know, and then you do the group one movie and then you do a little bit of the second one at the end,
Starting point is 01:19:09 you know, at the end and then in the next movie. Does anyone else feel that that's? Do you mean that are we doing spoilers yet? Let's do spoilers. I think that I found them both to be pretty satisfying. That's all I like. I'm totally okay if this is the last one. Like I enjoyed this a lot, but I'm like, we'll talk about it in spoilers.
Starting point is 01:19:27 But I'm going to say best movie ever. Claire, how do you feel about it? Best movie ever. I liked it. I think it's got like the first one, it's got like a bunch of plot holes. But I don't care. These are good enough. These are pretty decent, aren't they?
Starting point is 01:19:37 They've got good performances and the central characters are compelling and charismatic and it's got some interesting ideas, even if they don't all come together. and why didn't the army figure out that monsters or any other weakness they obviously have when that when the second weakness is revealed i'm like oh someone should have figured that out a long time ago do you know the thing that got me i reckon the most that i know you said may so about the no shoes thing which to be fair full on the other thing that got me that i found the most anxiety inducing is the baby in the chest yeah with the breathing thing and when the oxygen's going and
Starting point is 01:20:15 i kept having to say to myself they're not gonna let the baby die inside the chest like that they're not gonna do that because i just i became irrationally terrified by that. Did you? Did you find that affect you? I think the same as you. I was like, I mean, it was tense. Don't get me wrong, but I knew John Krasinski wouldn't kill another one of his kids. Good old JK.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Yeah. He wouldn't do that. That wouldn't be a good love letter. No. No, true. But yeah, I found that particularly stressful. Yeah. That whole storyline.
Starting point is 01:20:42 I like the baby's tiny little oxygen mask. Like they were a tiny little fighter pilot anyway let's do some spoilers okay let's do it so they can't swim yep they uh well they don't look like they can swim no i guess they're dense well yeah because they're not it's they're not vulnerable to water because at one point a sprinkler goes off yeah and one is getting drenched and it seems to be one have a see one have a bath, have a shower. Yeah, that's right. Starts soaping up with a shower cap on with a big scrubbing brush.
Starting point is 01:21:12 But yeah, I guess they're probably too heavy to... Too big to fail. Support the big banks. But I guess my question is because at the end of the – in the third act of the movie we think one of them has drowned
Starting point is 01:21:27 but it's ended up on the boat. Yeah. And it makes it to the idyllic island where they avoided being massacred by these monsters. Yeah. Because they're completely instinctual. Yes. So why wouldn't it simply attack everybody who's on the boat?
Starting point is 01:21:41 I think, as Claire pointed out to me because I went to the toilet in this part, that was a different boat that drifted. Oh, okay. So it drifted. So they didn't drive it there. Yeah, that's what I was. Good thing Claire was here because we both would have got that wrong and we would have got a thousand messages.
Starting point is 01:21:56 That's right. Okay, so let me point it out. Yeah, okay. No, no, because the boat that he gets on is the one that she finds him. Okay. You know, she pulls out. Oh, that's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:06 And it's more of a rowboat, whereas that was a – Correct. A big kind of – what do you call that, a tugboat? It's a tugboat. It looks like a tugboat. It's a Popeye tugboat. Correct. Yeah, and that's also why I think the monster doesn't tack immediately
Starting point is 01:22:19 because it's obviously drifted. I mean, it's a pretty big coincidence that it would drift all the way to the island, but it obviously – because it's not like he's got a little paddle and the alien's like paddling away. Maybe it was paddling. Yeah. I always wanted to get to this fucking island. Now I've got my one opportunity. What I don't understand is, because obviously this is a big spoiler,
Starting point is 01:22:37 that they find this island because of the music that's been playing, where everyone is free from the monsters because they can't swim. Yeah. And what I don't understand is why when the monster gets there, everyone is so shocked that there could be a monster and there didn't seem to be any real plan. Yeah. I don't understand that because if you're on an island that's, what,
Starting point is 01:22:57 less than a cave from, like, giant apocalyptic aliens, of course you would have some kind of plan. And you've got a message that's plan like come to this well my question and that's a good point claire but my question was also why is the message cryptic i thought it was like a screening thing like we don't want no idiots but i want music lovers but you might have and savants because we have well that's the thing because we have like you know based on this there are two groups of people who are not on the island uh like regular nice people and psychopaths yeah what if you get a smart psycho what if there are a bunch of really dumb nice
Starting point is 01:23:29 people out there who can't figure it out and a bunch of really smart psychopaths who can figure it out and they go to the island and you might say well it's because uh it's a recording and they're sending out the recording and they don't need any they can't have somebody in the room but it's on a record player yes which will get to the end and stop. So there needs to be somebody in the room to reset the record player. So there may as well just be somebody in there being like, that's not a thing. Record players have that, don't they?
Starting point is 01:23:53 Yeah, they do. Yeah, depending on the record player you've got. I think there should just be a guy in there. Everybody should take a shift and be like, we're on the island. Because it's not like the monsters can be like, oh, they're on the island. Yeah. Monsters don't understand radios. Maybe they do, though.
Starting point is 01:24:09 So why is it on a record? Why didn't they just have a digital file that presses repeat on Spotify? Maybe they didn't have a digital Spotify file. Yeah, but they still have CD players, presumably. I don't know if they do, Claire. I love Chrissy. Very presumptuous on your behalf, Claire. Anyway, that's a really good point, Mason.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Maybe they don't have a sports walkman on the island. One of those yellow ones. Because I've got them all. I collected them all. I think that the Cillian Murphy's character was really compelling because he's lost everything when they find him. He's like, you can't stay here. And then you see like the steps that he,
Starting point is 01:24:41 you almost see the wheels like turning in his head where he makes the decision. Like he gets pushed further and further every time he like has a conversation You see like the steps that he – you almost see the wheels like turning into his head where he makes the decision. Like he gets pushed further and further every time he like has a conversation and you see more of that empathy kind of sneak in until it culminates where they meet the weird salt-skinned boat people. Was that what was happening there? They were living in the salt water? They were all scurvied or something.
Starting point is 01:25:01 They had red eyes. That's what I thought. They were all like scurvied and salt watered and malnutritioned. See, I thought, I was wondering whether they were like sort of bordering on that kind of zombie mutant thing. Oh, I just assumed they were cannibals. Is that what it does to you? Probably. That's so cool.
Starting point is 01:25:19 What made you think they were cannibals? One was just like chewing on a leg in the background. Yeah, that's right, yeah. Okay. And they had the song by Fine Young Cannibals on the record. That's right. She drives me crazy. And you both left for the toilet,
Starting point is 01:25:32 but there was a moment where you see through their eyes and Killian Murphy and the daughter turn into big chickens, like big roast chickens. With those lines coming up. Yeah. Delicious. Delicious lines. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:25:42 But, yeah, this is the bit you referred to earlier, the bit where he knows the universal sign language for dive. Because he learned that once. He learned one sign language. Yeah, that was a bit. But you could just go, like, do your head tilt. Just be like, oh, yeah, you don't need to do that. Because that's really obvious as well.
Starting point is 01:25:58 It's so obvious. And the way he does it with his eyes wide, like. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? It's not like a secret sign language gesture. Anyway, but I like that. How he, you know, he stabs that dude. I feel like in directing and producing and directing this movie,
Starting point is 01:26:15 it feels like it's very much like it's been made by the numbers, but not in a bad way in the sense that it's like, well, it's pretty stock standard, but like someone has clearly gone through this and gone, okay, well, if if you set this up you've got to pay it off and this has got to make sense and etc whereas a lot of movies will not like they don't care like we watch a lot of movies that are big and flashy and impressive and they're enjoyable to watch is just like you know roll as martin scorsese would say a roller coaster we can't but then but then after that you're like none of this made any sense.
Starting point is 01:26:45 How did- Like the Angina Jolie thing that we watched, that you made me watch the other day with the lightning that kept attacking it for no reason. I make her watch these things. The fire watching thing, whatever it is. I haven't seen that. That one where it's a firestorm, but also there's some killers. And there's lightning.
Starting point is 01:26:58 She gets hit by lightning twice. Whoa. Two separate occasions. That's very unlikely. Yeah. I agree. But was it in the same place? No. Oh, well, then that's fine unlikely. Yeah, I agree. But it was in the same place.
Starting point is 01:27:05 No. Oh, well, then that's fine. Happens all the time. And there's like this giant bushfire that somehow just doesn't rage while she can have a fire. We talked about unsuggestible episode before. Yeah, we did. Yeah. I had so many feels. Also, why is she just like in her bra or in like a white see-through t-shirt?
Starting point is 01:27:21 As I said, because it's sexy. Because it's sexy. She's a firefighter. Anyway. You've never seen a sexy firefighter? Haven't you ever seen one of those calendars? True. I take it all back.
Starting point is 01:27:32 I haven't seen it, but it reminds me of that game Firewatch. Remember that one? It's very similar to the game Firewatch, a game I have not played. But yes. It seems like we're in a new era of movies that are adapted from games, but not really. This movie is legally distinct from Five Nights at Freddy's. It does feel that way.
Starting point is 01:27:48 Yeah, the end scene of that felt like a video game, you know, with the flecks of dust or fire things floating around. It did feel like a Tomb Raider kind of uncharted boss fight at the end of that movie. Should I watch it? I guess I'll have to listen to Suggestible to find out. That's right. No, you just said it was all right.
Starting point is 01:28:10 You could definitely watch it. It's'll have to listen to suggestible to find out that's right no you just said it was all right so you could definitely watch it still at cinemas but uh i also thought that the ending the way it ended of like we found out a way to kill the monster was the same way the last one ended but that's what i mean so that's why i'm like is there more to this i think there will be but just like well we killed two monsters i get that but isn't it more it wasn't the ending of this one more like and we've now broadcast that to the world kind of thing? Was it? Well, my impression was there that that would be broadcast. I guess there's no way to communicate that, though, that is there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Like, if you heard that, you wouldn't play it out loud, would you? No, but my guess would be that this is going to, like, the implication there is that that information is going to get out to the rest of the world and they're all going to but maybe have that same okay sure yeah but even the fact that the kid was wearing the headphones is being attacked by the monster take your headphones off bloody kids and their headphones right do you know what i mean yeah but no i did like i liked how both of the kids i know it was like a pure coincidence and like what what are coming together of minds and ideas and both of these kids are as good as John Krasinski in a way
Starting point is 01:29:05 and they both had their moment to kill a monster. Yeah, and it was sort of the idea of like the kids are all right. The kids are John Krasinski. Yeah, the kids are. I mean not as good. Only two of them equal one John Krasinski. Wow. That's the official math.
Starting point is 01:29:18 I want to jot that down. You know, I've just remembered this other thing that really got me in the feels was when the kid, what's his name? Jeffrey. No. John Krasinski. Marcus. Ginger Megs. Ginger Megs.
Starting point is 01:29:35 He is in there with the, they're running out of oxygen in that little room and it's shut. He can't open the door. It's locked. And he's got the baby with him and the baby needs oxygen and so does he and they're like swapping the tiny little oxygen mask and she's trying to get back to him. Yeah, exactly. Now I'm a fighter pilot, now she's a fighter pilot.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Anyway, and then when the mum gets there because you sort of think, oh, God, he's going to let the baby die so he can survive and then he has the mask on the baby when the door opens. And I was like i thought maybe i'm hormonal i know but i was i got a bit teary yeah because i was like he saved his sister over here do you think do you think the do you do you think emily blunt was like oh these bloody kids always i leave for five minutes but that was also one of those those setups where it's like oh somebody is very obviously going to get locked in that. Yes. When you see the towel.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Yeah. Yeah, totally. But again, at least it paid off. At least it wasn't a towel put over there and then it never was said anything. Everything is fine, you know. Sweet pad though, right? Oh, yeah. Sweet pad.
Starting point is 01:30:35 You jump down a little tube onto a sack of flour or whatever. Wee, you say. Oh, a sack of wee. Yeah. Wee, I'm having a good time. Wee time, everyone. It did feel like a little rabbit burrow or something it did yeah i like how he put his wife like up in the rafters yeah that was that's just james that's just where she died and he left her yeah so i thought it was going to be like genuinely this
Starting point is 01:30:59 is why it surprised me that he turned good and does heroic stuff also digimon honsu got murdered i didn't expect that that's right except for the bit where he's like i have to get my son i'm like oh no i'm so annoyed because i thought he was such a great character they didn't even give him a name do you know what his name is man on island wow didn't give him a name and also maybe you should have tried better then i just feel like when you meet him as a character he would immediately have had a better plan if the if he put his kids in the cupboard but it was also just a regular cupboard it was just a regular and everyone just seemed panicked like there wasn't
Starting point is 01:31:34 a kind of just scattered they just scattered like i feel like in that kind of scenario with that length of time to prepare you would have had and he seemed like the kind of character that would have had, like, all of these, like, you know, alert alerts. I guess they got complacent. I was going to say they got complacent. They're like, ah, probably won't happen. Don't worry about it. They're pretty confident.
Starting point is 01:31:55 We'll do it on the day. We'll figure it out on the day. We'll figure it out. Yeah, anyway. But, yeah, if he had been murdered straight up, that monster would have torn through everybody there in, like, a minute. Yeah. Because he was the only one who was like, I'll drive a car.
Starting point is 01:32:08 Sure. A long way away. But then also panic that maybe the monster hadn't followed them or something, which actually, to be fair, that was pretty plausible. Yeah. That you would suddenly freak out. So what do you guys expect from a quiet place to stay? Shut up.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Still be quiet. Three. Three. Make that into a poster if you can. I don't know that one. I think they should just call it, shh, shut up. Hey, shut up. Hey, wear no shoes or something.
Starting point is 01:32:35 But do you think it's wrapped up enough? Well, I mean, the question that I ask in watching these movies is where did the monsters come from? Yeah. But it's- Asteroids. But this isn't a universe where they can be like, well,
Starting point is 01:32:46 let's get the space. Let's go, go into space. We'll get a shuttle together and go into space. We'll go to these, this alien's home world. Cause everything's like, everyone's dead.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Yeah. Like the world is over. I presume they're just like a parasite kind of just on, on meteor. Oh, just a standard, just a standard parasite meteor. Well,
Starting point is 01:33:02 my feeling would be like, it's a, like a weapon. Like it's been deliberately. Oh, okay. Cool. Do you think thatch My feeling would be like it's a weapon Like it's been deliberately dropped in Do you think that would ruin it to be like There's even quieter aliens This one can't do a goddamn thing They're coming to work
Starting point is 01:33:17 There's one that can hear a whole lot more It's just a giant ear Just like the Sith I can hear you I can everyone just a new talking the creators they're they're they're super intelligent monsters but they can't smell anything we're immune to all your farts they say but i don't know whether it's that kind of series where like there's going to be a larger invasion i think it could get more to war of the worlds but would you watch another one where it's just kind of mostly the same?
Starting point is 01:33:46 Yes, because I think for me the family element of it is what works and not like getting a laser and going up into space or whatever. You know what I mean? Maybe ten movies in. A Quiet Place 3, we're getting a laser and we're going into space. Shh, no. Don't tell them. We're going to get them, but don't tell them.
Starting point is 01:34:04 In space we have the advantage because you can't hear nothing. We're going to get them, but don't tell them. In space, we have the advantage. We can't hear nothing. That's true. Yeah. Really good point. Do you know what? Sorry, I just interrupted you, Mr. Son of Movies. I do it all the time at home, but I shouldn't on your show.
Starting point is 01:34:16 Not bloody wrong. No, you can do it on the show. I do it all the time. Okay. I'm interrupting everybody. Because, Claire, you would know that if you don't interrupt him, he doesn't stop. He won't. He just keeps rolling on through.
Starting point is 01:34:25 Can't stop, won't stop. Just talks bloody forever. It's true. Takes everybody's ear off. All right. Anyway, I don't know what I was going to say. What was I going to say? You said you interrupted me.
Starting point is 01:34:36 Yeah. With the thing you don't remember anymore. Because I was about to say, let's wrap it up, boys. No, that's what I was going to say. What I think would be interesting, because I agree, the family is what I found so interesting. The characters. Emily Blunt, I would watch anything. boys no that's what i was going to say what i think would be interesting because i agree the family is what i found so interesting the characters emily blunt i would watch in anything she's bloody awesome i think it would be interesting if the the monsters all like they
Starting point is 01:34:54 figure out how to kill them right yeah but then you're just left with this planet that barely has any people left yeah and watching how they manage to navigate that and then clearly the cannibal slash crazy people who've lost their minds or I don't know, what did you say, covered themselves in salt water or something? No, I just think they were all salt water damaged. Sure. From living in the ocean. But I think that could be interesting.
Starting point is 01:35:18 A bunch of Matthew McConaughey's. That's right. All right. All right. All right. I love it. Do you know he has an audio version of his recent memoir? Yeah, I do, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:28 Oh, yeah. Good. Anyway, everything just worked out for me. Anyway, I just kind of went along with it. Everything's fine. I'm really rich. All right. I'm really handsome.
Starting point is 01:35:37 All right, all right. What was I going to say? Yeah, I just think that would be interesting if you had a movie where halfway – like people figured out how to kill the monsters but then you had to try and figure out how to work together to actually achieve that and everyone there's not that many people left on the planet so to how to kill the monsters you're saying like they've got their monsters are gone no no they've got the technology to kill them but then how does a planet where there's not that many people and a lot of people have like you know got scurvy or are cannibals now,
Starting point is 01:36:07 like how do you actually rid the planet of that and how does the family navigate all that? I don't know. You corral a bunch of fine young cannibals to fight against the animals. They're driving us crazy. And then what do you do once you solve it? Like how do you actually start? Great questions.
Starting point is 01:36:23 What's the monster society like? Do they sleep or do they – I don't think so. Do they interact with each other? Do they fight with each other? I think they just spread out. So like one dies and they just expand their territory. Okay, right.
Starting point is 01:36:35 But also there doesn't seem to be that – like they're not teaming with them, do you know what I mean? They're not everywhere. So there must be a limit to how fast they can – Do they breed? What are they – I don't know. You know what it's limit to how fast they can breed. What are they? I don't know. You know what it's going to be, as it always is?
Starting point is 01:36:50 They'll be the giant one that they all come from. You know how there's always the giant one? You can hear even more of it. It's just the giant ear or whatever it is. That's what it is, right? That they all spawn from this one giant one and they have to figure out how to kill the one giant one and then they'll be fine. How many of those meteors just dropped into the ocean?
Starting point is 01:37:06 Good question. Could have been worse then, I guess. Why are they all complaining? It could have been worse. It could have been worse. Well, this says here Paramount Pictures hired Jeff Nichols to write and direct a spin-off based on an idea from John Krasinski. In May 2021, Emily Blunt revealed that Krasinski has an idea
Starting point is 01:37:22 for a potential third film. So Jeff Nichols has directed a bunch of movies I haven't seen. Wow. Yeah. Can you give me some? In 2016, he directed three. He directed Midnight Special, the one that has Michael Shannon in it. I liked that.
Starting point is 01:37:35 Okay. He directed Loving and he directed In the Radiant City. Did he direct any of the Never Back Down fighting movies? Doesn't seem that way, no. He sounds like the guy who maybe would have done that. He's worked with Michael Shannon. He's worked with Joel Edgerton. He sounds good.
Starting point is 01:37:48 Sam Shepard. Adam Driver. Oh, not the driver. The driver. He's a good one, that driver. Big D, they call him. The Big D. What big is?
Starting point is 01:37:58 He'd be a good alien in this movie. Oh, he's the alien queen. Yeah, he is. Like a giant version of him. I'm so sorry. Cool. All right. Anyway, Claire, we can find you, can't we?
Starting point is 01:38:10 Somewhere. At Claire Tonti. Yep. You also have a newsletter. I do. It comes out every Friday where I just talk about how much I don't like being married to James. Oh, whoa. Maybe I should read this.
Starting point is 01:38:21 It's just a love letter to James or I write a post-apocalyptic movie about how much I love you. And then you die. And then myself die. What's up to me? No. Yes, that comes out every Friday and I do Suggestible with you. Have we said Suggestible enough?
Starting point is 01:38:37 I think so. Who knows? And we've got another – you've got another podcast on the way. I do. I have another podcast coming out very soon. Maybe you can swing back by. Swing back by. When A Quiet Place 3 comes out, you can come and promote your podcast.
Starting point is 01:38:51 A Quiet Place 3. Not a second before. Cool, cool. Claire, do you want to stay for the What Are We Reading segment or do you want to go? Would you like me to stay or would you like me to go? It's up to the guest. We leave it open to them, don't we, Mason?
Starting point is 01:39:01 That's right. I will stay. Can I stay? You can stay. They normally say no. They never stay. God damn we what do we do in this situation james i guess i just play the thing i'll just sit back here all right everyone has to be quiet while i play the theme i'm doing the thing i fucked it up i'm gonna start it again i'm doing the thing
Starting point is 01:39:20 what do we do this world I'm doing the thing. Do you know what that means? She doesn't listen to the show, Mason. Whoa. Unbelievable. Wow, trouble in paradise. I know. We've talked about what we watched, Cruella. Has anyone watched anything else?
Starting point is 01:39:41 Well, you said you did watch it. No, I did watch it. We're going to talk about Unsuggestable, I should say. But I did hate it. Okay. Even though there's that scene that everybody's seen on Twitter where her mother's murdered by three Dalmatians. Yeah, and she's like, well, I've got to get those Dalmatians now.
Starting point is 01:39:56 I've got to get them. I found that funny in the way that works for the movie. But it's not a kids movie. No, do not show your kids. No, it's not at all. It's basically sort of celebrating a serial killer. Anyway. Wait, who's the serial killer?
Starting point is 01:40:11 Cruella de Vil is the serial killer? Or Emma Thompson, who plays her rival, her fashion rival. Oh, fashion rival. Has anyone been reading or watching anything else, though? There is. I don't know if you've seen it, James, or Claire. You can both see it. It's free on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:40:25 Hbomba Guy has a new video. I did watch that. It's the history of the anti-vax movement. It's incredible. It's a lot of stuff because I was sort of like, oh, I'm mostly across this kind of stuff. There's a lot of old interviews and research that I – clearly there's been some deep digging happening.
Starting point is 01:40:42 It maps it back to this one guy from like the mid-90s. This one, it's like a lot of people base it on like, oh, there's this report that was released. It's like five pages long and it's based on what some parents reckoned in the 90s basically. Or maybe didn't even. Yeah, yeah. It's wild.
Starting point is 01:40:59 It's like an hour 40 long but it is fascinating. Definitely worth it, yeah. Yeah. And look, I don't think it's probably going to change any minds because if you're anti-vax, you're probably not going to watch an Hour 40 video telling you that that's not true. But it's very compelling.
Starting point is 01:41:12 I reckon it could chip away at some people. Like if you just, you know, people are like, well, I've done my own original research and I think this. It's like, well, here's some more original research. Yeah. Well, I've got friends, friends who you know, Claire, who won't take off. I don't believe it, mate. more original research so yeah well i've got friends friends who you know claire who first i'm hearing this who won't who won't take off friends i don't believe it it's just barry
Starting point is 01:41:30 but like friends who won't take a vaccine but would do a line of coke as long as this table yes correct fucking crazy yeah yeah exactly i know i understand why you wouldn't want to be the first person to take a new vaccine. Like that I understand. I totally understand the reticence. But I did see Amanda Palmer, who I love and follow on Instagram. I've got some stuff to tell you about Amanda Palmer later.
Starting point is 01:41:55 Oh, no. I don't love anybody. No. Really? Oh, yeah. Oh, no. All right. Just kidding.
Starting point is 01:42:04 Or am I? I never know, Mesa. I never know. Don't. Oh, no. All right. Anyway. Just kidding. Or am I? Am I? I never know, Mace. I never know. Don't ruin my little heart. All right. Anyway, she posted about, obviously, the vaccine, and I always appreciate it when a celeb goes and posts something about it,
Starting point is 01:42:15 just because I think it helps people get more likely to take the vaccine. I don't know if it does, though, because people kind of hate that, don't they? No, I don't know. I think it actually just makes of hate that, don't they? No, I don't know. I think it actually just makes people feel like, oh, well, if they're getting it, I can get it. Oh, you mean like them actually getting it? Yeah, like actually getting it. No, no, no. Like a PSA.
Starting point is 01:42:34 Oh, no, no, no. Like actually getting the vaccine and saying, look, it's safe. That's why the politicians do it too. And I, for me as well, if you're nervous about about it seeing someone else that you know having had it yeah does actually make a difference too anyway I thought what she said about it was great that if you're going to believe in something believe in science and science can be imperfect but totally but also it's the best defense that we have yeah and we put our faith in science constantly to get ct scans to get other vaccines for the flu.
Starting point is 01:43:06 If we get sick, where do we turn? Science straight away. If we need a science book. Is it we're going to science? We just open my eye. Anyway, I just think that, you know, it's the best defence that we have so you should put your faith in it, you know? Yeah, I agree. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:43:17 I think we've all agreed that we're not going to get it though. Is that right? Well, because we can't because there is none in Australia at all. No, there's – no. Is there? For over 40s there is. Great. There's plenty actually available.
Starting point is 01:43:30 Well, we're 15 years off 40, so we're never going to get it. Claire, you may not know this, but James and I are both 21 to 25. Or maybe a slightly different age. Wow, you look so bad. It's true. It's the podcasting, Miles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that'll do you. And I you look so bad. It's true. It's the podcasting, Miles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that'll do you.
Starting point is 01:43:48 And I live in the ocean. You do. Every time you say like, subscribe and comment, you gain a year. Yeah. Perfect. You start to rot. Excellent. What else did we want to watch this week?
Starting point is 01:43:57 Oh, I watched Too Fast, Too Furious because we're working away from the fast and furious movies to talk about on Caravan of Garbage. And boy, I got a lot to say about that one. Son of the Mask is coming up this week. That's right. There was a special meme page. I keep having to look at the face of that guy
Starting point is 01:44:16 every five minutes. I keep showing her. I'm like, look at this. I'm going to show her the Son of the Mask, the Jamie Kennedy image. This is awful. Yeah, Levens messaged me. Because Levens has had some run-ins with Jamie Kennedy.
Starting point is 01:44:30 Because over at Hayfam, they're the biggest fans of Son of the Mask, and they have the biggest Son of the Mask collection in the Southern Hemisphere, like merchandise. I mean, it couldn't be that difficult, surely. I don't know. But Levens had his year 10 formal in the – In the mask. He was wearing the mask.
Starting point is 01:44:48 In that weird dance hall from Son of the Mask. Yeah. They get it all in Sydney, don't they? Yeah. We recorded before, unfortunately, before he told me all this, but that would have been a fascinating – Go check out AFAM. I believe there are definitely some stories on that podcast.
Starting point is 01:45:01 But Son of the Mask is coming up Tuesday. Anything else? Can I say anything or am I allowed? Yeah. We didn't invite you. Imagine if we were like, the guests can be in this segment, but they cannot. They can only approve of our choices of things.
Starting point is 01:45:17 That's right. All right, so I've been watching the next season of The Bowl Type. Oh, yeah. Which I love. I love that show. I think it's like the fourth season maybe now, and it's just great. What's that about? Because I've seen the billboards.
Starting point is 01:45:31 I'll handle this one. It's just girls making a go of it. You know what I mean? Yeah, I get it. They're in the big city. In a New York city. That's a character in itself. I agree.
Starting point is 01:45:41 That's why they've killed off one of the girls because they're like, we've got the city, so it's fine. Okay, go on. Okay, so, yeah, it's exactly that. It's girls making a go of it. There's three main characters and they work at a big magazine called Scarlet. There's four. It's actually five seasons, I should say.
Starting point is 01:45:59 So there's the latest season, I think, is the sixth season, and there's only one episode out so far on Stan. But it's just brilliant and funny. It's very, for want of a better word, woke. Oh, not here. No, thank you. Not our audience, Claire. No, thank you.
Starting point is 01:46:15 But the fashion is great. It's, like, lighthearted. It's got some, you know, like a lot of romantic storylines and all that kind of stuff. But there's some really great feminist commentary in it as well. And I also just really love it because it's smart, but it is a world where COVID doesn't exist, which is lovely to live in.
Starting point is 01:46:34 It's just lovely to live in like a high fashion, lovely bars and great kind of outfits kind of life, you know, magazine world. It's some escapism. Like some shows have done a COVID season. Like I know Superstore did a COVID season. Boy, did they. I don't want to know about it.
Starting point is 01:46:50 I think that season's all right, yeah. I've been watching New Amsterdam. What's that? It's a hospital drama. Okay. It's like Grey's Anatomy, but I think it's more serious, if anything. It's definitely not. Nah, it's cool.
Starting point is 01:47:02 It's definitely Grey's Anatomy. Is this just a Scr scrub spin-off it does feel like scrubs but there's no jokes okay so the seventh season of scrubs but uh yeah they do it they do with covid and it's like pretty grim to watch yeah yeah where is this like actually you'll like this you know melora harden who's that um she is in the office you know a bad story about her, don't you? Yeah, I'm like... You know, she's got Australian...
Starting point is 01:47:28 Yeah, she's Jan from The Office. She's Jan from The Office. She plays like the head boss of the magazine Scarlet and she's just like everything I want to be when I'm a woman in like my 50s. You know, she's just like really put together and really smart but has a heart of gold but also badass and...
Starting point is 01:47:43 You've only got a couple of years. She's a writer. I'm married older. Anyway. And it's also got a really diverse cast too, which is really good, and they explore themes of, you know, queerness and all of that stuff as well. Yeah, it's good. It's actually, yeah, I've watched some of it when you're watching it.
Starting point is 01:48:01 It's all right. Like genuinely. It's like pretty compelling. Yeah, it's not, you know, it's not going to change your life. What about that show Older? You know that show? Oh, Younger. Younger, there we go.
Starting point is 01:48:10 Not older. She got older. Oh, no. It went off the boil. I actually really enjoyed Younger. That was on Stan as well. It's about a woman who's I think in her 40s who pretends to be a millennial.
Starting point is 01:48:22 Whoa. Whoa. And it's all about how cool millennials are but then i think the problem with that premise is that now we're suddenly the word chuggy yeah which is slightly off trend yeah we're slightly off trend embarrassing for us totally embarrassing and so um that's kind of meant that they've tried to spin that a little bit but it hasn't quite worked and also they do the thing in the show where the lead characters who have the sexual tension have got together.
Starting point is 01:48:49 And everyone knows once that happens it's really hard to come back from. No, no, what they do, they get them together and then they're together for a bit and then they have to break up for an innocuous reason and then they get them back together again and then the show ends. Then there's a vampire's curse and one of them falls into a coma. A giant ear descends from the sky and says, yeah, I can hear more. Oh, and I got a copy of Tenet on Blu-ray, so I'm going to watch that with subtitles on
Starting point is 01:49:11 and see if I can understand it finally. That's really good. Santa Claus? Looking forward to it. No, I haven't. Is it scary? I don't think so. If you're afraid of art.
Starting point is 01:49:22 If you're afraid of paintings in a storage locker, then yes, it's very scary. If you're afraid of, what's his face? Putting on a Russian accent. Oh, you like Kenneth Branagh. You're afraid of Kenneth Branagh with a Russian accent. Are you? Oh, very.
Starting point is 01:49:36 No, I love Kenneth Branagh. Whoa. I particularly liked him in Much Ado About Nothing, the Shakespeare movie. Hello, kissy kissy. All right. That's how I feel about him. Anyway,
Starting point is 01:49:45 suggestibles linked below. Claire, your newsletter is also linked below. You are at Claire Tonti. Correct. On all platforms. Follow you for updates and new podcasts. Correct?
Starting point is 01:49:55 Correct. Yes. Follow me. I don't always tell stories on Instagram, but when I do, that's where I am. Claire Tonti. I also,
Starting point is 01:50:02 I'm in the house. Jim Bob. Hanging out. Come and talk to me if you want to speak to Claire. I mean, you can go talk to Claire directly, but if you're afraid, come to me. I'm often just lying on the couch next to James while he edits and shows me pictures of Son of the Mask for some unknown reason.
Starting point is 01:50:17 Or the only other thing you like to do is show me the thumbnail that you've made and go, eh? What do you think of this thumbnail? I do that to Mason as well. That's not exclusive to you. You told me that's your favourite thing to do. It is. Of all the things that you make, that's what you, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:30 It's all my things in the world. It is. That's my favourite thing. All right, dudes. We'll go to the next segment, won't we, Mason? Yeah, we will. What's it called? It's called Letters.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Let's do it. Bye, dudes. Bye. Bye. That'll make it clear. Bye. The classic one was letters, oh letters. We love you, some letters
Starting point is 01:50:47 They're only a take away I know they're here right now, we're going to do letters Very nice of you to play the letters theme song It's because it's sort of around your birthday Maybe it was a month ago or a month from now Sure But I should have done it, I guess As a treat to you.
Starting point is 01:51:05 And you should have said Westworld. I mean, seeing as it hasn't been your birthday yet or it has been already, we could do it again next week. That's true. We could just do this joke all year. And we could call it a joke. Yeah, we could also, which would have people more on board with it, I feel. Yeah, I think so too.
Starting point is 01:51:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you do want to reach the show, joke or not, hashtag weekly planet pod on Twitter or weekly planet pod at gmail.com. Send us a tweet. Send us a fleet of text messages in an email. Send it over. Is that what they call a group of text messages? Correct.
Starting point is 01:51:39 A fleet. Yes. Have you got any fleets this week? I don't have any fleets. Nobody has. You know how on Twitter there's fleets? Yeah. Which are like Instagram stories, but nobody uses them.
Starting point is 01:51:50 No, get them out of my face. What are you doing, Twitter? Yeah. Stop it. You know when you click on somebody's profile picture and you're like, who's this? And it's like, do you want to see the fleet? Never. I never want to see the fleet. Also, I don't know whether they can see that I can see it.
Starting point is 01:52:00 Yeah. Do you know what I mean? That's true. I don't like how Instagram stories are not anonymous. That's why I never click on them. Get out of here. I don't want people to know that I'm looking at them. All right. Okay. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? That's true. I don't like how Instagram stories are not anonymous. That's why I never click on them. Get out of here. I don't want people to know that I'm looking at them. All right.
Starting point is 01:52:07 Okay. Yeah. You never meant to look at anything. I would not look at anybody one day in my life. Here's an email from Jonathan. Hello, Jonathan. It says, hi, James and Mason. I started listening to the podcast back at the end of 2018.
Starting point is 01:52:17 At the time, I was going through detox from years of drug abuse and having a backlog of hours of podcasts to listen to really helped me get through that difficult process. I've since cleaned up my life. Sick. I'm completely drug-free, lost 80 pounds, have a good job and a good relationship. Bloody hell. Thank you guys for helping me get through the darkest period of my life.
Starting point is 01:52:31 I still listen to the podcast when I go on long runs. Can I be the official former drug addict turned marathon runner of the podcast from Jonathan? Hells yes. Yes, you can. Addicted to those bloody endorphins, am I right? Feeling good and having good relationships, having a good time. And eating Tim Tams.
Starting point is 01:52:44 No. It's a slippery slope, Mason. You can have a Tim Tam. and eating Tim Tams no slippery slope you can have a Tim Tam okay I believe this man has the strength to have a Tim Tam well it seems like he would wouldn't it
Starting point is 01:52:51 yeah lost 80 pounds yeah fucking hell congratulations that's amazing well done and thank you for saying that
Starting point is 01:52:56 we're happy to be in your ears while you did all those things by yourself that's right yeah or with the support of others around you that's right but no
Starting point is 01:53:02 terrific stuff and well done yeah good to hear you're doing well. Yeah, you got a tweet there or a fleet of tweets? You're doing fleets. I'm doing tweets. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:53:09 Some JMF, hashtag weekly planter pod. Hello, Jim. Every time I put Twitter into my search bar, it automatically auto-fills for the search for hashtag weekly planter pod. It's annoying. So I get these every time I open my Twitter. Nice. Anyway, not sure if you two fellas have ever done a Caravan of Garbage
Starting point is 01:53:30 on the Simon Pegg slash Edgar Wright trilogy of sorts, one of the Dead Hot Fires, The World's End. But do you think there will be a fourth film or sequel to one of those original films? We have covered those movies a long time ago in an old episode. We would have done a regular podcast about them, yeah. And leading up to The World's End. I'd probably like to do
Starting point is 01:53:47 commentaries on them. That'd be fun. Because there's a lot of... So much in those movies. As Edgar Wright, obviously all filmmakers are a big fan of films, but I feel like he's got some very deep cuts and there's so much. Every frame of all of his movies just... The transitions alone,
Starting point is 01:54:04 mate. The transitions alone The transitions alone It's true I don't think they're really a caravan Not that he's requested it I don't think they're a caravan of garbage thing though are they Because they're like Good Well that
Starting point is 01:54:14 But like I don't know what I'd say Yeah this is really well made and I like it And you should watch it as opposed to me talking about this thing Yeah yeah But fourth movie though That's the question Good question Definitely I would watch it.
Starting point is 01:54:26 I would love to see one. But if he doesn't want to. I think possibly it might be a long time coming just because everybody involved seems to be, I imagine it would be a scheduling thing. All of the people involved, you know, have reached the point, I think, where people are just like throwing work at him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:43 And it would be a case of Edgar Wright and Nick Frost and Simon Pegg and everybody else who's free all at the same time for months to make this. What do you do? Also, he hasn't hinted at it, but he might have an idea. He's probably got at least an idea.
Starting point is 01:54:59 He's recently done a documentary about the musical duo Sparks. I haven't seen it yet, but people are big into that. I'll check it out. Why don't I check out this then as well? It's from Mika, hashtag WeaklyPlanetPod. What are your thoughts on the trailer for Snake Eyes? You forgot to talk about it last week's episode, but don't worry,
Starting point is 01:55:14 I won't tell anyone. Did we forget to talk about it? We probably did. I think we thought, should we talk about Snake Eyes? And then we went, there wasn't a lot in that trailer. Yeah, I think we discussed that maybe before the show. He had his classic sword. He had his classic Uzi machine gun.
Starting point is 01:55:26 Where were his classic snake eyes? When does he have the surgery? They give him the snake eyes. That's a good question. Yeah. He shot in the face with like hot burning fuel. That's what happens to his face. Really?
Starting point is 01:55:36 Yeah. I would- A real waste of Henry Golding's face. I was going to say a real waste of fuel. Yeah. Just melting a man's face off. Yeah, yeah. Did we ever see snake Eyes without his mask on?
Starting point is 01:55:46 In the comics, yes. He can't talk, can he? No. Where is this going then, this universe? Don't know. Yeah. Also, I think he's white in the comics. Yeah, I think you might be right.
Starting point is 01:55:57 He's white in the other movies. And he's Ray Park. Yeah, there's a flashback. He's like a little blonde kid maybe? Yeah, right. But it doesn't matter. No, it doesn't. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:56:06 It's not dependent on. All that matters is he gets the snake eye surgery. Yes. At least get the venom. The snake bite. Or is that a Cobra Commander thing? Can he do that? No.
Starting point is 01:56:17 No. Which is the guy that can take a spear. No, take it. Which is the guy that can take a snake and turn it into a spear and spear a guy? Is that Cobra Commander? That's probably Serpentor. Ooh. He's got the powers to straighten out snakes.
Starting point is 01:56:32 Get your life in order, snakes. I don't know what this is you were talking about. In the G.I. Joe movie, the animated movie. Oh, that's Serpentor then. They spear Duke. Oh, yeah, yeah. He takes a snake and he straightens it out and he spears Duke. Look, I'll show you a picture of Serpentor.
Starting point is 01:56:46 So is that his one power, to straighten out snakes? I have no memory of that, but he looks like a snake man, so you wouldn't be able to look. Remember, this man who looks like a snake man, he's got a big snake head. That's how I'd recognise him. It's only a costume, though, you know what I mean? Yeah, but he's a clone. I think they got a bunch of evil men and they got all their DNA
Starting point is 01:57:06 and they swizzled it about. Yeah. And they made Ser Pantor with it. Should have made someone better. Yeah, I agree. Also, I don't think that would work. I think you'd probably just get one, like the DNA from one guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:17 It doesn't matter how much you swizzle it about. Yeah, you're probably right. Yeah. That's fun. Got any more? Oh, yeah. Got any more fleets? I got a fleet right here.
Starting point is 01:57:24 This is from Biaki, I'm assuming is how you pronounce that name. Okay. That's fun. Got any more? Oh, yeah. Got any more fleets? I got a fleet right here. This is from Biaki. I'm assuming is how you pronounce that name. Okay. What have we got? Hi, James and other James. Hello. I want to shout out one of my best friends,
Starting point is 01:57:35 even though she doesn't listen to the show, Boo. Agreed, Boo. Her name's Boo. She, along with her band, just landed fourth place in the Eurovision Song Contest 2021. Her name is Holda, and she's the blue-haired girl in... Gagnamagno. All right.
Starting point is 01:57:50 And the O has a symbol above it that I've never seen before. So congratulations. Tell her she's now officially the coolest person in our friend group, but also tell her she's a dickhead to keep her dance floor. How do you spell that? Her name. Oh, Holda, H-U-L-D-A. Icelandic.
Starting point is 01:58:08 Icelandic. Makes a lot of sense. What do we have to tell her? Officially the coolest person in our friend group. You're the coolest person. This was my question for you, James. How do you feel about the Eurovision Song Contest? I know you're a big fan.
Starting point is 01:58:22 Is that true? Didn't you like it? I didn't watch it this year. I don't think about it. Okay, well. That being said, I think it's cool. Genuinely. And it's like a real fun expression of like, I'll catch an act and I'm like, that's off the chain.
Starting point is 01:58:36 Look at this shit. It's crazy. I think Italy won this year. Did they? Yeah. And Australia gets a Guernsey. Did you know that? Yeah, for some reason we go even though we're not. I think they should get Aunty Donna in. Oh, my God. Can you imagine?
Starting point is 01:58:49 They've got so many songs. What if they did Morning Brown? Last year we had Montaigne, I think, who's very talented. Yeah. But get a dumb act thing. You'd do Everything's a Drum, wouldn't you? Yeah, you'd probably do Everything's a Drum. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:00 They could come up with a new thing. They totally could. I mean, I wouldn't. Why risk coming up with a new thing? They could do Chop Chop. Have you seen Chop up with a new thing they could do chop chop have you seen chop yeah that's perfect yeah i think i might have actually seen that already on twitter somebody recommended that but uh yeah what's what's next mason or is that it the end of the show i think thank goodness this went forever and collins is away so i have to edit it that's right god damn it good luck yeah but that's only because it's my birthday that's right otherwise i would. By edit it, I mean accidentally put it in the trash.
Starting point is 01:59:26 And it would be gone. Just your whole computer? Yeah. Oh, no. That's right. Folks, thank you so much for listening to the show. Thank you for liking it. Thank you for subscribing.
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Starting point is 02:01:37 Yes. For now. Nice if we could all get vaccinated, Mason. Agreed. So the virus didn't keep coming back and I had to homeschool? Is all I'm saying. You're going back to school. Who, me school who me yeah you are i don't want to go back to rodney dangerfield style oh man i have dreams sometimes i go back to school and then i go ah you know i don't have to i don't have to do this and i'm like fuck this i'm out and i leave whoa i know that's some real lucid dreaming it's pretty good stuff isn't it madness i'm like i do
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