The Weekly Planet - 395 A Brief History Of GI Joe

Episode Date: July 26, 2021

Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Due to a pandemic related incident we were unable to hit cinemas this... week to watch Snake Eyes. BUT WHO CARES because Maso is here to tell us all about the history of GI Joe as a franchise. Plus we talk news of the The Rock leaving the Fast franchise, a Netflix gaming update, casting for Black Panther and Batgirl, trailers ahoy, Marvel and DC rumours and more. Thanks for listening!Maso on Book Cheat play.acast.com/s/book-cheat00:00 The Start06:36 The Rock's Fast Future11:25 Netflix Gaming12:58 The Last of Us15:21 Black Panther 2 Casting17:27 Marvel Animation18:00 New Blade Director and Trinity Turmoil23:06 Werewolf By Night Banned25:21 Huge Hawkeye Series Villain26:04 Captain Carter Live Action26:35 Dune Trailer27:02 The Last Duel Trailer30:09 Jackass Forever Trailer32:27 Leslie Grace is Batgirl33:00 New Superman HBO Series34:22 G.I. Joe!52:08 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:03:06 Hot Scoop or Shot of Poop?01:04:14 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrown Patreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymovies TWP iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanet TWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGH Amazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2QbmwGj T-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:54 This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr Sunday. With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason. Hell yeah. Now you've got a little bit of a headache going into this, aren't you, Mason?
Starting point is 00:01:28 How dare you, James? Should I not bring that up? How dare you reveal to the viewers? Listeners, oh, no. This hasn't started out well at all. No, I'm doing great. I'm doing very well, thank you. I've had a lot of over-the-counter medication.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Don't even worry about it. We're going to pair on through. And you're not the only one feeling out of sorts because apparently Comic-Con's on like right now. You heard anything about it? Nope, not a single thing. Not really getting anything. It's like I just Googled it and it's like,
Starting point is 00:01:52 here's the best Comic-Con collectibles. Currently in Melbourne, if you just go on Twitter, it's just all about just a man who punched a horse. There's a man in Melbourne. Punched a police horse. Punched a police horse. It's really weird that he went for the horse, don't you think? And not for the man or the woman. Yeah, I just horse. It's really weird that he went for the horse, don't you think? And not for the man or woman.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Yeah, I just think it's strange. Like why would you hit the horse? I mean you shouldn't really be hitting anybody but why the horse? I reckon it's probably a guy who's like wants horse-based revenge, I think, for something that happened in his past. Okay. A horse punch to him. Because it's – yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:02:24 This is due to some sort of ongoing protests that are happening in Melbourne. Yeah. It's a particular type. Well, it's actually worldwide. Well, that's true. I mean, at the moment, it's like an organised event. It's a particular type of protest that I maintain just brings
Starting point is 00:02:35 out a bunch of weirdos. Sure. Because there's like fire twirlers and anybody who's like, I would like some attention, please. And I think that does include someone who wants to get on the news for punching a horse. Someone who would punch a horse straight up. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Interesting stuff. This is for you, Dad. Love you, Dad. The horse punched his dad. Yeah, I'd imagine so, yeah. This week we're going to do it. We've got a bunch of news, though, and we were going to do Snake Eyes as well.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Yeah. But a couple of things. We're in lockdown still. They extended it to Tuesday. Yeah. Second thing couple of things. We're in lockdown still. They extended it to Tuesday. Yeah. Second thing, apparently it's not great. Yeah. The best I've heard is mixed things.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Yeah. So, you know, I think that's okay. I've heard numerous people say, look, it was dumb, but I liked it. Yeah. Which is, you know, maybe the most you can hope for for a G.I. Joe Origins film. Yeah, I guess. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Just Origins, man. They're not ever great, are they, really? Occasionally they are. But not really. I was going to say like really accusatorily, name one. And then I'm like, oh, name one origin story that isn't good. All of them. There we go.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I mean, look, there are examples. Sure. And people will tell us. Yeah, they're doing it right now. You won't be able to tell me because you've got a splitting headache and I can't think of one. So that's it. We're both firing on all cylinders.
Starting point is 00:03:53 We're doing our A game. Speaking of A game, Big Sandwich this week, which is our little subscription service thing, a bonus thing goes up whenever this goes up, the new episode, and it's on. And we did a year in pop culture and we covered the year. It's in 69. 69.
Starting point is 00:04:09 So check it out. There's a bunch of stuff that happened there. And if that's not enough, James. It isn't. And or you just would like to listen to something that's free. This week I was also on, as mentioned last week, I was on Dave Warnicke's podcast Book Cheat. Book Cheat.
Starting point is 00:04:22 We've got Petraitis and Dave Warnicke told us all about the play this time, William Shakespeare's Midsummer Night's Dream. Oh, my God. Had a grand time. It was really good. Which movie of that have you seen? None, but I saw it in the park once. I also saw it in the park once.
Starting point is 00:04:37 The Royal Botanic Gardens? Yeah, that one. Yeah, I saw that. Like a million years ago? Yeah, like a million years ago. We might have both been there at the same time. I hope we weren't. But anyway, go on.
Starting point is 00:04:46 And I was also on Sans Pants. Oh, yes. Flagship podcast, Plumbing the Death Star. That's right. Where we pondered the question, what if Batman was not, in fact, afraid of bats? He was afraid of something else. Heights, Santa.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Did you cover bats? Roller coasters, no. Interesting. Okay, yeah. And if you're wondering if it was just a nightmare for the people of Gotham City, every time it is, it turns out. So whatever he falls prey to. Just ruination, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Yeah, that's great. So this week, though, in lieu of Snake Eyes, the snakiest eyes. That's right. A movie that I guess we'll probably never see now, really. I'll probably see it. I don't think I'll see it. James, you might be watching the trailer for Snake Eyes and you're like, this holds no interest for me.
Starting point is 00:05:30 But then he pushes the button on the side of his helmet and the visor goes, vroom, vroom, vroom, vroom, and you're like, I'm back in. I like your Snake Eyes. Because they couldn't not do that. In the era of Iron Man and et cetera, you can't have a helmet that you put on manually like an absolute goof.
Starting point is 00:05:45 What are we even talking about then? Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Does it slide out of the gap like the gap where his eyes are or does he put on a little headband and it clicks down? No, it goes like. It goes across and then down. It goes across.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Wow. Yeah, like one, two, three across. That's like a snake. You ever seen a Venetian blind do that? That's what they look like. I've never seen anything. Right. So, including the movie Snake Eyes.
Starting point is 00:06:08 But you are going to attempt to talk us through G.I. Joe. The origin of G.I. Joe, yeah. Up to the modern day? Probably up to the point that I stopped purchasing and playing with G.I. Joes, which I would guess would be the early 90s, maybe. Right. Terrific. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:06:23 But also we've got news, and there's time codes below if you're doing a jump around. I want to talk about Dwayne Johnson's future in the Fast and Furious franchise, the FF. Netflix and gaming. We've got some news on The Last of Us, a bunch of stuff about Marvel and DC. Trailers ahoy.
Starting point is 00:06:41 We've got Dune and Jackass, that's right, and a bunch of other stuff going on. And The Last Duel. Oh, The Last Duel, of course. Casting for Batgirl in an upcoming series or movie. I can't remember. I should have written that down. And also Michael B. Jordan, what he plans to do with Superman.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Yes, but maybe not the Superman you're thinking of. Exactly, Mason. Unless you're thinking of the Superman Val Zod, in which case, exactly the Superman you're thinking of. You've done it. You've done it. You've done it. You've just spontaneously come up with some nonsense syllables in your head.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Like, what if Superman's name was Val Zod? You did it. Nailed it, man. You figured it out. You can go. You can go. That's right, yeah. You can go home early.
Starting point is 00:07:18 We're ringing the bell just for you. Off you go. Get an ice cream on the way home. On you. Do some graffiti on the way home. Yeah, why not? So the Hollywood Reporter spoke to Dwayne Johnson. Some gelato and some graffiti. Very good.
Starting point is 00:07:28 The two most Italian pastimes. So the Hollywood Reporter spoke to Dwayne Johnson, and he said in regards to the Fast and Furious franchise, I wish them well on Fast 9. Did he um? Yes. Really? He wouldn't have ummed.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I was going to say, Dwayne Johnson doesn't seem like the kind of man who would... Yeah, he would pause. Yeah. And he would maybe lean in. People are like, what's this guy going to say? This guy's got a huge presence. And he's big also. So big, but he's handed me this huge present.
Starting point is 00:07:56 And I wish them the best of luck on Fast 10 and Fast 11 and the rest of the Fast and Furious movies they do that will be without me. He's out. Does that mean, though, the end to Hobbs and Shaw? I would say yes. Or, James, is it the Hollywood egos like, but Hobbs and Shaw is actually my own thing. I reckon if they were like, listen, we will remove Fast and Furious Presents from the top of Hobbs and Shaw
Starting point is 00:08:22 and it's just Hobbs and Shaw 2, I reckon he'd still do it. He's got a message from you that says, nice. Oh, because you sent me the photo of the man punching a horse. It's meant to be an ironic nice. I don't really think that a man is punching a horse. No, it looks like it's a nice and a big smiley face. Oh, no. It says, nice, that was me, it says.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Oh, no. But I think what he smells here, which is something he does, is that the Fast and Furious may be a sinking ship. Really? I mean, it's soon to be over. I mean, you know, how much. Yeah, or revamped into something else. Do you think so?
Starting point is 00:08:55 Yeah, after 9 and 10 or whatever they're doing, 10 and 11. Do you think they'll revamp? I guess it's an endless money train. I think they'll step into a new. Dimension. You know, like Marvel finished a den game or whatever, and then they're trying different stuff. I think they'll step into a new dimension. You know, like Marvel finished at Endgame or whatever, and then they're trying different stuff. I think that's what they're going for.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Multiverse of motorcars. Multiverse and dinosaurs. Yeah, Cadillacs and dinosaurs. Yeah. Look at that. They do. And also, the clue that doesn't get along with The Rock. I mean, Vin Diesel and speaking of.
Starting point is 00:09:21 No, I think you were right the first time. I think The Rock doesn't get along with The Rock. I think he would Yeah I reckon he would actually. I think they'd probably do a lot of firm handshakes. Yeah I reckon he talks to himself a lot in the full length mirrors at the gym And one of the personalities is whoever he plays in Ballers. I was just going to be Ballers Sure I haven't seen it
Starting point is 00:09:37 I also haven't seen it. How does he have time to be in ten movies a year and also this show that's been going for a million years Yeah it's been like five seasons of whatever i don't is he a recurring character he's the lead he's the lead yeah and he's in the young rock probably he's he's it he narrates and he's in some of the young rock which is apparently not a bad show okay isn't ball is just like entourage but i'm giant no idea no one knows i don't know anybody who watches it. What actually happens is the producers of Ballers, they hire people to approach The Rock and tell him how much they love
Starting point is 00:10:11 the TV series Ballers, but nobody's actually watched Ballers. And that's the show? Like they film it reality style? Yep, that's also what it is, yeah. I love Ballers. Thanks. He goes into a studio every week and he films a scene for the TV series Ballers, but it's never released
Starting point is 00:10:26 because it's not real. And then fans come up to him and they're like, love Boilers, man. So they have to pay people to go up and talk to The Rock. Yep. All right then. That's what I think. That's what you think.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Maybe it's the pain medication talking, don't I? Very well may be. Also, side note, shout-outs to our friend Christopher Small who does the Weekly medication talking, don't I? Very well may be. Also, side note, shout-outs to our friend Christopher Small who does the Weekly Planet posters but also has made a Midlife Crisis T-shirt. I bought one. Yeah. I haven't bought one yet and I bought this one.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Yeah, right. So I'm very excited to get that. What colour did you get? Black. Yeah, nice. What did you get? Grey. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Yeah. We might be going on Gamey Game Game at some point. When lockdown is not happening. It was going to be this way. Yeah. If we go together, we should wear them. Yes. Then explain it.
Starting point is 00:11:14 We won't explain it. Not explain it. We'll sit back to back. Oh, yeah. Nice, yeah. And we'll get real aggressive if anybody asks. Yeah. And just shut down and not contribute to the episode at all uh but so just
Starting point is 00:11:26 to catch everyone up the vin diesel rock feud that went down when they filmed some of those movies together yes and vin diesel explained it recently by saying you wanted to get a good performance out of the rock and it was about tough love and making like a getting a certain kind of uh what was the word he used felini s itesque. It was Fellini-esque, yeah. I nearly said finisque again, or whatever I said last time, because my brain doesn't work properly. But anyway, so The Rock had this. I want him to be a real Marcello Mastroniani,
Starting point is 00:11:55 you know what I mean? I know what you mean. So in response to that, this is what The Rock said, I laughed and I laughed hard. I think everyone had a laugh at that, and I'll leave it at that. All these fans that love ballers that were surrounding me, they laughed and I laughed hard. I think everyone had a laugh at that and I'll leave it at that. All these fans that love ballers that were surrounding me, they laughed and laughed. And that I've wished them well. So, yeah, I don't think he thinks that is –
Starting point is 00:12:14 I mean he thought that was as funny as everybody else did. Yeah. Because it was a dumb thing to say. Wild. Let's talk about Netflix and Gaming Mason. Because they recently announced that and we were like, how are they going to do that? How are they going to do that?
Starting point is 00:12:27 So apparently it's going to be free in terms of it's not free. You have to have Netflix. It's bundled in with what you have and they're going to initially start with mobile services. Okay. So if you've got a phone, you've got a? Gym. Snake.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Yeah, you've got a snake. That's right. That's right. So I think that would be a good jumping off point. Mobile games, they're doing it. Okay, sure. I don't have any. Or I do.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I think I've got Cannabolt on my phone. Oh, the running game. God damn, that's a good game. It's been around for 100 years. Yeah, I'm old. People used to do it on an abacus. Did they? Step, step, step, step, step.
Starting point is 00:13:02 It doesn't make any sense. They were just counting. It doesn't make any sense. were just counting doesn't make any sense no they're running away they're running through a city or something
Starting point is 00:13:08 yeah did you play that game yes sick as they also had a good um mirror's edge side scrolling
Starting point is 00:13:13 oh yeah it's a bunch of good stuff there's good mobile games isn't there i mean maybe now they just
Starting point is 00:13:18 i've talked about before choked with micro microtransactions and i just don't even go into the store just not interested
Starting point is 00:13:24 anyways maybe the mobile game store yeah your local mall yes the mobile game store with microtransactions and I just don't even go into the store. Just not interested. Anyways, Mason. The mobile game store. Yes. In your local mall. Yes, the mobile game store. Well, it's on a truck. It's on the back of a truck. Oh, yeah, of course it is, yes.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Wait, wait. I always just miss them. Yeah, right, right. They always just keep the engine running in case they see somebody coming. They play the traditional mobile game store. Flappy Bird. Yeah store. Flappy Bird. Yeah. The Flappy Bird music.
Starting point is 00:13:50 That's when you know it's in your neighborhood. That's right. So in relation to The Last of Us, apparently each episode is going to exceed eight figures, which I had to punch out. $10 million. That's right. Well done.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Even with a headache, you can do it. So probably more than $10 million. I nearly said $10 billion and I'm like, that's too much money. Seems too much, doesn't it? Not a good return on investment, I think. I think it's, no. Well, that's the thing. I just wanted to ask you and the listeners, I guess.
Starting point is 00:14:16 That's right. What's the roof on this? What's the return you're hoping for on something like this? Yeah. You know? Surely, I mean, obviously there's a point where this isn't profitable, but goddamn, like what is the return? How many episodes are they going to do?
Starting point is 00:14:30 Where are you making your money? I think it's eight to ten or something like that. Okay, so potentially, so minimum $80 million, maybe more. Plus marketing. Yeah, yeah. Whatever. I guess. It's not DVD.
Starting point is 00:14:41 It's sign-ups, I guess. Well, I reckon maybe this is an exception to the rule just because they want to get gamers in. You know those gamers. They love to play games, but also they love spending money on games. But also. They hate The Last of Us 2. They hate The Last of Us 2.
Starting point is 00:15:01 I don't know. Maybe it's just a case of like that gaming market is huge yeah and they they're like we will we will make a sort of Hail Mary pass and then we'll spend 10 million an episode yes just to see if this works yeah you might not might be right I mean it might set a bar for every series going forward whether it's gaming related or not but I think it's also one of those things where HBO has like a flagship or a couple of flagships and everything else is like cheaper. You know what I mean? So it's like premium, premium.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Like Game of Thrones was that. Speaking of, did you hear Westworld was delayed? The season of Westworld? Well, they can't. They're like, we can't really do it at the moment because of the pandemic. So in honor of that, I'm going to keep saying Westworld in the What Are We Reading segment of the show. Go on. Until Westworld comes back.
Starting point is 00:15:44 And then what will you do? I don't know. Maybe I'll just keep doing it. But just let everybody know that put that date in your mind for episode one, season four of Westworld whenever that comes out. Okay. Keep it just locked away in the back of your mind, all right? Push something else out.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Yeah. Push out an important birth date or something and just remember this insane thing that James is doing. I just think it's one of those things where people who hate that need a little bit of hope, you know what I mean? Sure, yeah. Someone to look forward to in this drab, horrible world that we live in. And then you'll dash that hope.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I'll dash it. Or I won't. We'll see. I don't know. Anyways, let's talk Marvel news, Mason. Please. So did you know that Michaela Cole from I Will Destroy You, a show I have not seen.
Starting point is 00:16:24 People say it's great. Claire watched it recently and loved it, and she talked about it on Suggestible, which is my less successful podcast I do with her. But then whenever one of us watches a thing, then the other person's like, well, I can't watch that because now I can't talk about it because you've already talked about it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:40 So that's why I haven't watched it because it's wasted content. I'm watching something for no reason. So this is tearing your whole family apart. That's right. Anyway, she's- You forbid your children from- If you've watched the trailer for the new Transformers animated series, you're like, son, no.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Stay away from that. Absolutely not. No, you're self-limits. Did you see Beast Wars are coming to new Transformers series? I was aware of that. Yeah, there you go. Not the movie, the animated one. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Anyway, people are saying if she's in Black Panther. Did I say she's in Black Panther? No, but you have to. She's in Black Panther. People are like, well, an obvious one is like the Dora Milaje. But I feel like they've been filled already or the major ones. Yeah, right. And others have mentioned, and I think this would be awesome,
Starting point is 00:17:18 what if it was Storm? And she's not from Wakanda. No, that's true. But she's had ties to Wakanda. I think she married Black Panther at one point or whatever. Yeah, that's true. So I don't know how they're going to handle any of that. But wouldn't that be interesting to just drop some X-Men in other movies
Starting point is 00:17:32 before an X-Men movie? Which apparently, allegedly, some are claiming that they've done. The guy in Black Widow has claimed that he is Ursa Major, the mutant that turns into a bear. That's right. Even though that would have probably come in handy in that prison. He was getting his arm broken. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Turned into a bear. Maybe all the guards turn into bigger bears. That's why he doesn't do it. Maybe, yeah. There's always a bigger bear. It's also Winston Duke. We've got to get a bigger bear. Remember Jaws?
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah. We need a bigger bear to kill this shark. Right? We keep chucking bears in the water. It's not doing anything. So Winston Duke also confirmed, though, I thought this was, that M'Baku is back. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:18:13 M'Baku. M'Baku. M'Baku, exactly. This was via Variety. M'Baku is M'Baku. He's in this franchise. Handsome man. Variety has reported that Victoria Alonso, a Marvel executive,
Starting point is 00:18:26 she said that they're going to launch their own in-house animation branch and mini studio, which is interesting. So, I mean, they're already doing animated stuff. I don't know whether they outsourced that What If stuff. Maybe they did. Maybe they didn't. That's not up to me to decide or to look into, all right? Even if it were up to you to decide, you've missed the mark.
Starting point is 00:18:43 It's already finished. Significant margin by years, I think. We had to make a decision without you, James. Maybe I've got like an unread email in my inbox. I bet, yeah, yeah. Anyway, so that's not surprising. And off the back of that... They called you, but it was an
Starting point is 00:18:58 unknown number, so you didn't pick it up. That's what I do, yeah. Deadliner reporting that Bassam Tariq, he previously directed Mogul Mowgli, which is apparently an incredible movie. Mogul Mowgli. Yes. Is that like the boss baby?
Starting point is 00:19:11 Must be. It stars... He's back from the jungle. He's in finance now. What's his name? That dude, he played the pilot in Rogue One. He's in The Sound of... I'm going deaf, and I Just Want to Drum.
Starting point is 00:19:25 That one. Don't know. What's that movie called? Don't know. Riz Ahmed. It stars him. Apparently it's amazing because I looked up this director. I'm like, I've never heard of this guy.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Anyway, he's directing the next Blade movie. So, yeah, that's exciting. Seems like a good get. Or they get a director who's done an indie movie and then they could like make him do whatever they want. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then he comes in and they go, we already actually filmed this. Pretty much made the movie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He comes in and they go, we already actually filmed this. Pretty much made the movie.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there you go. Can you make some of these actors be better at standing on the X and shouting lines about closing a portal or whatever? Or obtaining an orb? Or whatever. Yeah, whatever. We don't care.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Fix it in post. We don't care about you. Exactly. Just do what we need you to do is we need you to say you had a great time making this movie. Dream come true, blah, blah, blah. And then we need you to answer questions about the movie and the continuity in the universe for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Because if we don't have you, they'll ask us. Yeah. And we don't want to know about it. We need a full guy. We need a full guy. A front man. Let's say front man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We need a full guide. We need a full guide. A front man. Let's say front man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:26 That's you. Yeah. You're a star. Anyway, that's movies. But just off the back of that, I wanted to mention that David Goyer's been doing the rounds this week. Wrote some of the Dark Knight movies, Batman, Superman, and Man of Steel. He's David S. Goyer?
Starting point is 00:20:39 Yeah, that guy. Is there more than one David Goyer? There must be. I'm sure there would be. Because if there's a David S. Goyer, that means David Regal. Just grab that phone book behind you. We'll have a flick through it. We'll ring around. All right, that guy. Is there more than one David Goya? There must be. I'm sure there would be. Because if there's a David S. Goya, that means David regular Goya. Just grab that phone book behind you. We'll have a flick through it.
Starting point is 00:20:47 We'll ring around. All right, all right. Anyway, so he just. Hey, David Goya, two questions. One, are you the only David Goya? And secondly, is your refrigerator running currently, David Goya? Oh, good stuff. Oh, it is?
Starting point is 00:21:04 Well, how could... I thought the autopilot wasn't working at the end of Dark Knight Rises, but... How did Batman get back into the city? How did Batman get back into the city when he was in the middle of nowhere and out in that pit? Better go catch him then. Click.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Oh, you're a different David Goyer? Oh, then you wouldn't know. I mean, take a guess, I guess. You've seen that movie, right? Yeah. Oh, you stopped at Dark Knight. Click. Oh, you're a different David Goyer? Oh, then you wouldn't know. I mean, take a guess, I guess. You've seen that movie, right? Yeah. Oh, you stopped at Dark Knight. Okay. Yeah, a lot of people do.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Heath Ledger was good in that. Wasn't he? Anyway, he said, he was asked about Blade Trinity and, you know, the Wesley Snipes story that Patton Oswalt was told about, how he was difficult to work with. Oh, yes, yes. And those moments how he had to, like, CGI open his eyes in that. Have you seen that footage? Of Wesley Snipes?
Starting point is 00:21:44 Yeah, he wouldn't open his eyes in a scene, you seen that footage? Of Wesley Snipes? Yeah, he wouldn't open his eyes in a scene, so they had to CGI them. It looks quite hilarious. I would have to have that. I have a sort of permanent squint. Interesting. No, but his eyes were closed and he would not open them. A permanent squint, you say? Like this.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Oh, really? Look at a photo of me and I'm all like, eh. You know, I'm like, eh. I thought that was because you were suspicious. Yeah, also that. Okay, cool. But I have moments of not and I'm all like, eh. And I'm like, eh. I thought that was because you were suspicious. Yeah, also that. Okay, cool. But I have moments of not that where I'm like, ah. Ah, hello.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Anyway, all they should have done is given him his cool blade sunglasses and drawn the eyes on them. That's a really good point. Googly eyes. Googly eyes. Googly eyes. To make it appear as if you are awake. So he basically kind of avoided it by being like,
Starting point is 00:22:23 look, I was friends with Wesley Snipes. We don't really talk anymore. But, look, I was friends with Wesley Snipes. We don't really talk anymore. But look, nobody was happy about Blade Trinity. So that was how he kind of capped that off. Did you say Wesley Snipes made a short appearance in What We Do in the Shadows? Did he? In that there's like a...
Starting point is 00:22:37 The show? Yeah. Really? As Blade? Sort of. There was like a council of vampires scene, and Tilda Swinton is in it. Really?
Starting point is 00:22:47 It was just like a bunch of people who have been vampires. Oh, I wish I didn't know that. Sorry, I've ruined it for you. But you haven't watched the show. No, I've watched one episode. Okay, right. Well, that's a little sizzle then. Great.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Anyway, what I thought was fascinating is that he spoke about Man of Steel and a note that he got. So here we go. Get this. One note that he spoke about Man of Steel and a note that he got. So here we go. Get this. One note I got was on Man of Steel, where the ending involves Superman utilizing the pod that he arrived in as a child in order to bring down General Zod's ship. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:15 The note we got from the studio said, you have to change that. We asked why. They said, because if Superman uses that pod and it's destroyed while saving the city, how is he ever going to get back to Krypton? There was just this long pause and we said, Krypton blew up. You saw 30 minutes of it. So that's great.
Starting point is 00:23:38 And even if he was like, I'd like to go back to the ruins of Krypton, he's a man who can fly through space. And probably build another ship. and he has a big ship. He's got a big ship. He's got a big ship in that movie. That ship survives. So that's pretty incredible that that came up, but that's studio bloody Hollywood studio system.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Wouldn't you say, Mason? Yes. All right, got another bit of news. Last bit of Marvel news, and we'll talk a bit more about Kevin Smith in the What We're Reading segment. But he talked about how he wanted to use Werewolf by Night on his now defunct animated Howl of the Duck series. Okay. But he was told that the Marvel movie division was using him. When was this?
Starting point is 00:24:17 Quite recently. Recently. But the Howl of the Duck thing was a year ago, a couple of years ago. Right. Yeah, but everything merged and they lost it. I can't remember what happened. But yeah, that everything merged and they lost it i can't remember what happened but um yeah that's so i know very little about werewolf by night beyond the fact that it's like marvel's werewolf werewolf property from i guess the 70s sure there you go yeah so um
Starting point is 00:24:36 well i mean but you know that's interesting maybe a blade kind of blade thing probably yeah lichens and vampires or they've just gone it's on the whiteboard and they're like maybe we'll shoehorn it into something so you can't you absolutely cannot use it yes you cannot make it you cannot make a silly or a funny you cannot do a skit or a riddle about werewolf by night because we are doing a big serious werewolf by night and we're gonna run if you do it we're gonna run in and punch you yeah that's right we're gonna run into the studio and punch you. Yeah, that's right. We're going to run into the studio and punch you. Right in your snooch or your nooch. Where do you want it, Kevin Smith? Here's the cast for The Council of Vampires.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Okay, do I want to know this? I don't know. All right, let's go. Tilda Swinton. Love it. Paul Rubens because he was in the Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie. Was he really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:20 One of the vampires. Evan Rachel Wood because she was in True Blood. Gotcha. Danny Trejo because of Dusk Till Dawn. Oh, right, yeah. And Wesley Snipes. Wow. Right?
Starting point is 00:25:29 That is a line-up. Do they get them all in the same room or are they filmed separately? They're all in the same room, I think, except for Wesley Snipes, who's on Skype. Wesley Skypes. Wesley Skypes, yeah. I was going to say it, everybody, but I was literally drinking a sugar-free drink.
Starting point is 00:25:45 James had all his hands free and he was like. What would have mattered if my hands were free? Hands free, nothing, not drinking nothing. He could have said or gestured. If you gestured Wesley Skypes, if you used sign language to say Wesley Skypes, I would have told the world. I don't know sign language.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Well, that would have been your chance. I can't believe I let everybody down then. You really did. Mostly myself, though, really. Yeah, yeah. Dave Bautista was also in it. He was. I don't think he's.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Is he in Blade 2, maybe? No, you're thinking of Ron Perlman. I might be, yeah. I think you're right. You know, I said that was the last of the Marvel news. I've actually got two more bits of Marvel news. My goodness. One of which being that Marvel Studios spoilers the Reddit page over it.
Starting point is 00:26:25 A moderator on there said, Vinnie D'Onofrio will return as Kingpin for the Hawkeye series. Oh, I did see that, yeah. And apparently it's going to tie massively into the next Spider-Man movie. It's going to land around the same time. I don't know if you saw this week, but Ms. Marvel and Hawkeye will debut before the end of the year. I see.
Starting point is 00:26:44 So I think Hawkeye will probably be a month before, maybe the same month as Spider-Man. How reliable is Marvel spoilers over on Reddit? Pretty solid. Okay. Well, it's from a moderator, so it's, yeah. No, no, I'm serious. It's like it's got some good stuff there, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:59 And the Diz Insider has said, not confirmed, but Captain Carter will be in Doctor Strange 2. My goodness. So the what if version of Peggy Carter, who's like Captain Marvel. Or Captain Britain, rather. Yes. It was also said this week by one of the people who worked on Loki that that might have been Agent Carter in the background of a shot.
Starting point is 00:27:19 You know, when there was a woman. Oh, seemingly being arrested or brought into the TVA. Or they just were like, I can't say. So probably. Or they went, oh, I can't say. So probably. Or they went, oh, we can use that. Yeah, sure. With somebody else, but we can use that. Trailers of Hoymason.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Look out for that trailer. It's going to sink this podcast. It's going to kill us all. It's covered in bears. But great content. Great trailers. Great content. We've got to come up with a better term than content.
Starting point is 00:27:43 What do you think we could call it? Fresh content? Fresh content, yes. Synergistic content. I want to point out that I thought of that before Mason did and he didn't have a drink in his mouth. I was drinking four drinks. Dune got a new trailer.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I watched it and great. And I don't have any complaints because it's it looks terrific and don't really know the property not going to look into it uh i like denny villanueva a lot and that's all i need there you go going into this what i think was interesting about this one was that they were like what i thought was interesting about this one is that uh in a lot of other dune properties in the past, it's like House Atreides, who is the house that Timothy Chalamet is in and those guys. In the past, it's like they've come to save the day.
Starting point is 00:28:34 They're the super good guys. They're the rightful kind of, you know, heirs of the whole situation of the planet and whatever. But in this, it's just like the Freeman, who's like Zendaya's team, are like, what are you doing here? Get out. We don't want to like this, which is a nice little.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Is that what the books are? Like do they look into that more? I feel the book is more like that. They're like colonists. Yeah. Yeah, right. Okay. Well, thanks for spoiling that for me, Mason.
Starting point is 00:28:58 No problem. I didn't want to know anything. Now you know everything because that's the whole premise. That's the whole premise of the book and all the movies. What about the prequels in the sequel series Sons of Dune or whatever? Yeah, it's just a couple extra sentences. Great. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:10 What a lot of people don't know is the Dune sequels and prequels are basically like children's books. Oh. They're like four words in every page. It's a pop-ups, obviously. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's a first trailer also for Ridley Scott's latest,
Starting point is 00:29:24 who was an 83-year-old man. Well done. Kudos. For The Last Duel, which stars Matt Damon, Adam Driver, and Ben Affleck with a blonde bowl cut and wig situation. He's really channeling sort of mid-'90s George Clooney with that haircut. Isn't he just? That gladiator cut, the Roman centurion cut.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I actually started to read this book and then something happened and I stopped, but it was intriguing. The book suddenly burst into flames? Yes, that's right. It's based on the last official duel that happened in France. It's a true-ish story. There's an accusation and then two best friends are like, let's fucking duel, mate.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Yeah, nice. We're dueling now. Cool. We're dueling. Let's duel already. You should call it cool duel. Cool. We're dueling. Let's duel already. You should call it cool duel. The last cool duel.
Starting point is 00:30:11 From the guys who brought you Euro Trip. Is this a pistols at dawn? No, it's they hit each other with swords. Yeah. I would have thought. I think this looks great. No, it does look great, but I would have thought that the last duel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Certainly the last cool duel. No, duels can be swords. No, I know. But I would have thought that there were still duels happening in France with guns. What year is it set, though? I don't know. Let me check. Oh, do you think they had guns, but they were like.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I don't know. Because it looks very medieval. Yes, that's what I meant. Maybe they changed the rules, the cool duel rules. Oh, the cool duel rules. And this is the last kind of like honorable duel or something like that. Yeah, you might be right. Let me find out whether this is set.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Blah, blah, blah. 14th century. So that's pre-guns really, isn't it? I mean, in Europe at least, I think. I don't know anything also. So people need to bear that in mind. Jackass Forever also got a trailer. Sure did.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I've only seen the third Jackass movie and it's, you know, they're fun. I think I've seen the first one. Yeah. I might go back and – actually, I read an article with Johnny Knoxville where he talks about how it started. They didn't even do many seasons before they stopped and then started making the movies and he did a lot of other stuff in between and whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:23 But there's something – like this was huge in the early 2000s when we were younger men. I watched the first 30 seconds of this trailer and I'm like, oh, they're sort of, it seems like they're sort of leaning away from like the real dangerous stuff. It looks like it's all, everybody's having a great time. They're in like a parasailing thing and everybody's all smiles or whatever and then all of a sudden it's just like somebody's being attacked
Starting point is 00:31:47 by a bear and all of a sudden they're just going exactly as hard as they were before. Yeah, pretty incredible. So we also know that nobody was seriously injured because it's a bean film. The only thing is Bam is arced up a bit about it because he was supposed to be in it and then he got let go. And Johnny Knoxville has kind of loosely kind of talked about it
Starting point is 00:32:08 but basically said the implication was that he has had substance abuse problems and maybe that was a condition of him coming back and maybe he broke those particular. Sure, right, right, right. Again, he didn't really go into it but that's kind of the implication. Yeah, so there's like some people, they have to keep cycling at the edge of a pool, otherwise they'll get slapped into a pool or whatever.
Starting point is 00:32:31 And I'm like, oh, that's a bit of fun. And then just a man getting gored by a bull. So that's cool. Just somebody with a helmet on their head, they're about to be attacked by a spider. Yeah. A lot of people getting hit in the nuts. Yep.
Starting point is 00:32:44 That's classic. Somebody just licks a stun gun. There's lot of people getting hit in the nuts. Yep. That's classic. Somebody just licks a stun gun. There's the guy who just rides into the canvas. Oh, yeah, that was great, actually. I mean. That was really impressive. What I thought was interesting about that is, like, he would have known that because the perspective only works
Starting point is 00:32:58 for the camera, right? I mean, maybe, but it looked. Because if you're coming straight on. If you pull back far enough, you'd be like, oh, I see the edges of the canvas. Yeah, that's what I mean, yeah. And, like, depending on what angle you came at it. Anyway, it's still funny.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Maybe they were like, okay, this is a canvas, but if you hit it hard enough, you'll be able to go straight through it. And he's like, all right. Yeah. I should go back and watch the first two, which I have not seen. Deadline are reporting that Leslie Grace is going to be playing Batgirl slash Barbara Gordon, which is also would be in relation, I think it might be in relation to the Batman maybe,
Starting point is 00:33:34 but I don't know that for a fact. Leslie Grace was in In the Heights, one of the leads in In the Heights. Oh, I see. Right, right, right. It's like a second movie appearance. So, yeah, there you go. It also might not be connected to the Batman because I don't. But I did see mention of someone, the Jim Gordon in that,
Starting point is 00:33:49 who is Jeffrey Wright. There might be a connection. I see. Jeffrey Wright's Jim Gordon, but I don't know. And last bit of news, Collider are reporting that Michael B. Jordan is producing his own Superman series for HBO. This is separate from the Ta-Nehisi Coates slash J.J. Abrams movie. This is going to be, as you mentioned,
Starting point is 00:34:09 and that one listener who figured it out, it's going to be about Val Zod and it's being written as a limited series. Yeah, right. So, yeah, so we're getting a black Superman story for the movies and this is a different one. So I guess one of the movie one might be clark kent i guess or some other variation or whatever yeah yeah i don't know pretty cool did you see also that jeff johns was apparently like superman's grandfather can't can't be black or whatever
Starting point is 00:34:34 because it doesn't make any sense did jeff john say that yeah well that allegedly isn't he but like very clearly that doesn't matter yes according. Do you know what I mean? According to Kryptonian biology, this is actually possible. Well, I just mean, exactly. Like it is physically possible and also it's fictional and it doesn't matter. Do you know what I mean? There's like many levels of who cares. I think that Krypton show is like, I watched the first season,
Starting point is 00:34:59 it was all right. It's just kind of, who was the actor who was like, got turned down for that? It might have been the guy who played Kang. Oh, might have been i might have imagined that or a different actor yeah more likely but i remember some actor somewhere said that they went up for it and it was kind of demoralizing and it could have been him or a different person as women our life stages come with unique risk factors like when our estrogen levels drop during menopause, causing the risk of heart disease to go up. Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca.
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Starting point is 00:36:36 And also, we haven't seen the movie Snake Eyes to be like, it was fine. Like, we didn't love it, but we took the day and we went and saw it at separate cinemas and there was nobody in it. And look, I'm not really a fan of the property. Mason's more of a fan. And, you know, they've made some changes to the law, but it felt a bit light on in terms of G.I. Joe kind of substance. Wear a Snake Eyes' mask lips. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:56 His beautiful mask lips. I hope people are enjoying Caravan of Garbage, Snake. We're doing retaliation this week for those people who give a shit about that pretty fucking average movie. But, Mason. Yes. Do people care enough about G.I. Joe to sit through this segment where you explain where G.I. Joe came from and what its deal is?
Starting point is 00:37:14 Or do they want to use the time code to skip ahead to where we briefly talk about Masters of the Universe? We'll soon find out, won't we? Can you tell? I wonder. Yeah, there's metrics. I don't look at them. I don't look at them.
Starting point is 00:37:24 So there'll just be a big black bar where people are like, ooh, I don't know. Thank you. I think this could be interesting, though, for me. I mean, we are specifically going to be talking about, James, G.I. Joe, a real American hero. Wow, wow, wow. Which is different from G.I. Joe, America's movable fighting man,
Starting point is 00:37:42 which was the original version from the 60s. Yes. Which is Barbie size. I have like the G.I. Joe toy line officially ended for the first time in 94, and when they did that, they released like these anniversary figures that were like 12-inch versions. Really? The original original?
Starting point is 00:37:59 No, they were like 12-inch versions of the modern version. Oh, wow. So I have a 12-inch Snake Eyes figure. I was going to bring it over, but then headache, and also I don't know what box I put it in. But it's not. It doesn't really look. Got a bloody 12-inch Snake Eye over here, this bloke.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Am I right? Sorry, go on. You were saying something about your penis? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, it's the 90s version. Yeah. So it's not like the version in the Snake Eyes movie. He's got like a blue sweater on.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I remember him, I think. Yeah, that version. He's got his little katana and et cetera. Because my understanding was, and I think I saw this on Toy Galaxy, is that the reason they made them smaller was the same reason they made the Star Wars toys smaller is because there was a plastics shortage. Yeah, there was a gas crisis in the 70s and 80s. And so they started out as 12-inch because they were barbies yeah and you could brush their hair they had a
Starting point is 00:38:49 little little pink shoes they weren't that at all the second the second run of the 12 inch ones you could brush their hair oh my god they had brushed and beards like they had like fuzzy regulation you absolutely couldn't i guess they were because it was probably, I think this would have been like pre-Vietnam. Yeah, okay. And like, you know, people spent too much time. Do you have a beard in the army now? I don't think so. Probably a close crop.
Starting point is 00:39:13 And depending where you are in the army, I imagine. Yeah, probably, yeah. But the 60s version was like, that invented the term action figure. Yes. Even though we think of like action figures as like the four-inch versions or whatever. Yeah. Because obviously you couldn't, a boy could not be playing with a figure. Yes. Even though we think of like action figures as like the four-inch versions or whatever. Yeah. Because obviously you couldn't, a boy could not be playing with a doll. No.
Starting point is 00:39:29 How dare. I hope you weren't implying that they could then, by the way. No, they cannot. They physically will not. They simply can't. They can't. They won't. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:41 So, but it dipped away for a bit, didn't it, in the 60s? Yeah. I honestly think it was probably Vietnam. Yeah. What done it in? Because people were like, what about war, actually, for a minute. I think also from what we've seen from doing the big sandwich where we look at years, the time crapshore, there's like a black hole between like,
Starting point is 00:40:01 it's pretty much up to the late 70s, early 80s, where toys are like, this is a fake phone. This is an oven. This is a shoe with a mouth on it or whatever. Do you know what I mean? Like there wasn't toys the way that there was in the 80s and then on. Yeah, just mouth shoes. Just mouth shoes.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Do you put your foot in the mouth? You put your foot in the mouth. The mouth's not on the toe. I don't know. You couldn't chase people and be like, my feet are going to eat you. My feet are going to eat you. But do you know what I mean, though? And then there was this explosion after Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Yeah, yeah. But anyway, sorry. I was going to say, the 12-inch figures were licensed in the UK as Action Man. So is Action Man, as in Action Man, the greatest hero of them all, Action Man? That's a different Action Man. That's a different Action Man. That's American Action Man, right? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:40:49 You could get Scrooge Action Man or Action Man's got a gun. Yeah. And British Action Man now with a gun. That's right. One gun. So basically what happened is there was that dip. I think G.I. Joe became Adventure Team in the 70s. So it was less like we're doing war and more we're doing adventures.
Starting point is 00:41:07 We're doing rock climbing. Yeah, we're doing rock climbing, exactly. But then in the 80s, a few things happened. Reagan. Reagan. Well, that's basically what happened was Reagan. There were a whole bunch of laws being like you cannot advertise directly to children. You cannot go, hey, kids, come and buy this thing.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Like advertising had to be pitched at adults. Like, hey, maybe you want to buy your kids this. But then in the 80s, Reagan was like, no, you can just be like, hey, kids, you can spend 22 solid minutes saying to kids, hey, kids, do you want to buy this thing? Yeah. This does tie into Master of the Universe because that was what Master of the Universe essentially was.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Yeah, for sure. But I think how they circumvented that before, and I might have seen this again on Toy Galaxy, was if you released a series or a comic, then you were technically selling the comic and not the toy. Yeah, well, that's the thing. With G.I. Joke, the comics came first. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:55 So they went, because Marvel had some success, I think. You know, briefly, Micronauts, like these incredible shrinking men, they were part of the Marvel Universe. Yeah, well, Star Wars saved them as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they did the Star Wars runs. And Shogun Warriors. Marvel's had this history of like weird stuff that is briefly in continuity
Starting point is 00:42:14 in the Marvel Universe and then they just can't reprint any of that stuff. Yeah, right. Godzilla was briefly in the Marvel Universe. Really? Because there was a Godzilla series where S.H.I.E.L.D. were constantly on the hunt for Godzilla. But obviously they don't have the license anymore, so you can basically find scans of it, but you can't buy it.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I would love it if they continued that series, but they could never find him. It's like that Search for Bigfoot show. They're just like, we just didn't find him this week again. We think he went to a parallel dimension. I mean, he might have. Yeah. Or they just get there and they just miss him.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the toy company went to Marvel and were like, okay, give us a comic book series, give us origins for all the characters. And then they got millions of dollars to produce animated ads on television, like 30-second ads for the comic book because that technically was not against the rules yet. They're pretty, they're pretty well animated as well.
Starting point is 00:43:08 The ads are. Yeah. Maybe the cartoon less so I think. I would say almost certainly. Yeah. But then eventually the rules relax where they were like, just like, well,
Starting point is 00:43:16 let's just do anything. Yeah. And then, so I think they got two five episode, like 22 minutes mini series where it was like, you know, we build the teams, we build the family. They were ahead of Vin Diesel.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Just this one. Just slightly. Yeah, yeah. And that was – again, this was pre-Transformers. Yes. And this was pre – this was the early days. So this would have been pre – He-Man was 83.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Yeah, and it was pre-Return of the Jedi. Yes. So they sort of had a clear pathway in terms of like dominating the market for these figures kind of thing. Was it pre-He-Man? I don't know if it was. Great question. He-Man might have started at 81.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Yeah, it was definitely pre-American Transformers. The toys are made of He-Man, so I go on. They had like a free run. They made like $50 million in the first couple of years. And it was that reinvention of like everybody had like a costume and a backstory yeah there weren't standard army men with beards and brushable hair no that's true they you know because it was like star wars you know opened the door to like just wackiness at a certain point like marvel just started releasing like it was it was called like gi joe in secret intelligence or whatever and it was just
Starting point is 00:44:24 like a compilation of all of G.I. Joe file cards that you would get on the back of the box. They were just like, we're printing money. We can just – people will read – kids will read a compilation of the stuff they already have because they've collected all the sets. I mean, I would have got one of those. Yeah, right, yeah. You probably did, I'd imagine.
Starting point is 00:44:40 I got – Well, you cut them out and you made your own little binder. I bet I did. I wonder if I've got them in a box somewhere. Maybe. You seem to have a lot of things in boxes. I don't think these boxes exist. You're always saying you've got boxes.
Starting point is 00:44:52 I always say I've got things in boxes, but also I think maybe every time I've moved I've just chucked out a bunch of stuff. Yeah, right. Who knows at this point. Boy, these boxes are really light. Anyway, time to move house. The G.I. Joe comic book, I think, went for 12 years. Wow, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:06 So, like, the popularity of the toys themselves waned. Yeah. Same with Transformers. The original American Transformers comic book went for 80 issues. Like, it outlasted the toys by five years probably. Did the toys ever, like, completely stop completely stop though are we talking transformers gi joe i mean obviously they they did because they're not on the shelves like now yeah yeah yeah they kind of did i mean they because they they discontinue them and then it's because you
Starting point is 00:45:35 could still get them in the 90s did they discontinue them and then like it's just whatever's left so they're just in their warehouses and they just send out until they're gone or i think so so they they take all the the i think they stopped in like the like 94 and then they were like gi joe the classic collection which is like more generic kind of yeah characters for a while that went for a few years then i think they did like masterpiece editions like they did with the transformers very very high quality just like you imagined them when you were kids. That's when you're getting adults in, right, or like older collectors? Yeah, I think so, yeah, yeah. And then they went, okay, they did versions for the movies.
Starting point is 00:46:17 And I think now it is all just like, hey, you remember? Remember Snake Eyes? We'll give you Snake Eyes. You want a Snake Eyes? He's in that sweater vest. I thought you said sneezing for a second there. I'm like, yeah, we've got a sneezing Snake Eyes? We'll give you Snake Eyes. You want a Snake Eyes? He's in that sweater vest. I thought you said sneezing for a second there. I'm like, yeah, we've got a sneezing Snake Eyes. Sneeze the visor right off his face.
Starting point is 00:46:32 This is a Comic-Con exclusive. It's Sneeze and Snake Eyes. So they also did the show in the 80s in like bits and pieces, didn't they? It was like five here, five there. Yeah, yeah. And then a movie and then a couple of seasons or in some order like that. Yeah, it was two five-episode miniseries. And it was in the search of whatever.
Starting point is 00:46:51 I remember watching them being like, these are the same. Yeah. Because one, it was like there was a weather machine. Cobra was getting all the parts of a weather machine. And in the first one, I think they were going to get a tele- Cobra had to get all the parts of a teleport machine. A teleconference call. Teleconference call, exactly. And they had to assemble the Cisco telepresence. They had to rush to different computers to get a tele... Cobra had to get all the parts of a teleport machine. A teleconference call? A teleconference call, exactly.
Starting point is 00:47:06 And they had to assemble the Cisco telepresence. They had to rush to different computers to have a teleconference call. And then there was the ongoing series. And there was a G.I. Joe the movie, which was going to get a cinematic release. But Transformers the movie, to my utter surprise and disgust, was a bomb apparently. That was my whole life when that movie came out. I mean, that movie would have made money now. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:35 But I think it was that and My Little Pony because they're both Mattel, whatever they are, and they just sunk like stones. But I don't remember because I was really young when they came out, but they weren't really marketed, were they properly? Because it was just like a surprise that these movies existed. Couldn't tell you, I don't know. But the series went for ages and it was the classic. It was that idea of like this is just a 30-minute device
Starting point is 00:48:01 to sell stuff to children. Yeah. So at the end we'll give everybody an important lesson about, hey, if there's a fire, call an adult. Yeah. And buy more G.I. Joe toys. Call an adult and tell them to buy more G.I. Joe. If your collection of petrochemical products that have been turned
Starting point is 00:48:18 into small men have somehow caught fire, call an adult. Yeah. Don't try and put out your burning G.I. Joes yourself. Here's a question about your GI Joes. The rubber bits in the middle. Yeah, they're all disintegrated. I do not have any old GI Joes. I did have a big bag that were at my parents' place.
Starting point is 00:48:34 And they're like, hey, do you want these? And I'm like, oh, GI, yep, I'll put them up on a shelf or something. And I pulled out one and it's just the bottom half of its body. You could have fixed that. That's an easy fix. I didn't want to, though. You didn't want to, everybody. You don't have anything in its body. You could have fixed that. That's an easy fix. I didn't want to though. You didn't want to everybody. You don't have anything in boxes.
Starting point is 00:48:48 I don't have anything anymore. That's right. Just got a box of just the bottom halves of a bunch of G.I. Joe's. James, what I have is one box and I open the box and in there is a piece of paper that says, Use Your Imagination. And I do. And that's the best collection there is.
Starting point is 00:49:00 And then you come to a podcast and you lie about owning all these things. That's right. Oh, yeah, it says Use Your and you lie about owning all these things. That's right. Oh yeah, it's just use your imagination brackets and lie all the time. So, the movie as well was supposed to kill Duke and a bunch of other characters like Transformers. In Transformers the movie
Starting point is 00:49:15 they killed a bunch of Transformers including Optimus Prime and there was a huge amount of backlash. Obviously they had to resurrect Optimus Prime, but oddly not all the other ones that were killed. Yeah, who cares people kids really connected with optimus prime uh he was their new dad isn't it interesting that they connected with optimus prime the most popular character in the series and people were upset when they killed that character it's odd and replaced him with a camper van whatever the fuck they did yes stupid it's a camper van with flames down the
Starting point is 00:49:44 side it sucks it does suck absolutely at least have something better i think if they haven't Whatever the fuck they did. Yes. Stupid. It's a camper van with flames down the side, James. It sucks, Mason. It does suck. Absolutely. At least have something better. I think if they haven't gone Ultra Magnus even. Ultra Magnus is like, not Ultra Magnus. Yeah, Ultra Magnus. He's Optimus Prime-esque.
Starting point is 00:49:56 He is. Do you know what I mean? Whatever. Yeah. But so they were going to kill Duke. Yeah, he gets stabbed through the chest with a snake. Serpentor. But it's a snake spear.
Starting point is 00:50:05 I said that recently to somebody. It might have been you. I remembered it. And I said, nah. You're misremembering things. Yeah, I've seen that movie. Gaslight your friends, because gaslighting is half the battle. It really is. But then he survives at the end. It's like how Hawk is
Starting point is 00:50:21 stabbed in the first G.I. Joe movie movie and he's just like, no, I'm fine actually. Actually, I'm all right. I've got this plot armour. He doesn't even come back at the end. He just comes back. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:30 He's like, I was actually all right. I was fine the whole time actually. I'm not even Zartan. I'm all right. He's the president. Yeah, that's right. I suspect. But, yeah, I remember I hired that as a kid in like probably the mid-90s
Starting point is 00:50:41 and I just didn't like it. Maybe it was because I don't really like... No, that's not true. I always liked the figures. I always thought they were really cool. They made 250 vehicles and play sets. Did you know that? I did not know that.
Starting point is 00:50:53 And I think like 160 action figures. Collect them all. I will collect them all. Buy 160 rubber bands as well because you're going to need to put them back together again. What I also thought was interesting, and I think I also saw this on Toy Galaxy. We talk about Toy Galaxy a lot, but you should check it out if you haven't.
Starting point is 00:51:08 It's a good channel, yeah. Sometimes I'm like, wow, I do sort of remember that. Silver Hawks, I do sort of remember that. Is that what is funny about most of the things on Toy Galaxy from the 80s, they're like, and then they tried to bring back, what is it, Thundercats and everyone went, no, thank you. And that was the end. And that's just like for most things from the 80s.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Yeah, right. And then they tried to bring back Silverhawks, and everyone was like, fuck off. You know? Yeah. But by making the toys like four inches high, then you can make play sets. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Because you can't, if they're like fucking 12 inches, you can't make Castle Greyskull or whatever. Exactly, fills your whole bedroom. Doesn't make any sense,kull or whatever. Exactly. It fills your whole bedroom. Doesn't make any sense. All right. So that's fun. What else happened in G.I. Joe, though? Anything of note?
Starting point is 00:51:50 Like I mentioned, there was a British version. Action Man became Action Force. Yes. It was initially separate, right? But then they merged them. They merged them and the British version became G.I. Joe, the Action Force. And then we're just like, eh, G.I. Joe. You've got G.I. Joe, the action force. And then we're just like, eh, G.I. Joe. You've got G.I. Joe also.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Did they use the same moulds and stuff for a lot of the figures and things as well? Yes. A lot of them were like repaints. Yeah. And a lot of them were like they would repaint and then they would change the name. Sometimes they would just switch names. Okay. Like a character would be called like Snake Eyes was renamed like Striker.
Starting point is 00:52:23 But there was already a character called Striker. So he became like Gary or whatever. Gary. You know. Gary Snake Eyes was renamed like Striker, but there was already a character called Striker, so he became like Gary or whatever. Gary. You know? Gary Snake Eyes. Hang on, I'm going to find you one. Some of the Action Force, like, vehicles were insane. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:34 There's one that's like, hang on. How insane? Like it's literally like a roaming mental asylum. Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah. Wow. They shouldn't really name them those anymore. No. Yeah, and Action Force, they fought the Red Shadow, not Cobra.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Yes. But this is the Red Shadow Robo Skull. Oh, my God. Oh, that's the main bad guy, right? No, that's actually not the main bad guy. That's just the pilot of the Robo Skull. He looks a lot like him. The leader of the Red Shadows, his name was like Lord...
Starting point is 00:53:08 Some rather, but he looks like Buckethead. Okay. You know? From Guns N' Roses. No, the British political figure Lord Buckethead. I don't know who that is. You should look up Lord Buckethead. I'm going to look it up right now.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Okay. The satirical political candidate. Yeah, he looks like the Black Knight from Monty Python. What is he? He's one of those joke political figures in the UK. There's a whole bunch of them. We don't have enough room for joke political figures except for the ones we already have, James.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Whoa, are you allowed to say that? That's right. Are you allowed to say that, Mason? A guy who's like people are eaten by crocodiles every day. You know that guy? Yeah. He's an elected representative. Yeah, that dude is...
Starting point is 00:53:42 He's called Baron Ironblood. You can see him in the back of the whip there. Run! Is he whipping his own men? Yeah, he's whipping his own men. You've got to do what you've got to do. That's exactly right. That's the workforce, man.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Yeah, that's right, yeah. It's a metaphor maybe. Anything else? That was a fascinating tale. Right? And it ties into everything that I know, which is stuff that I vaguely remember from the 80s and 90s.'s what i'm all about uh that's what the people love i agree should we move on to the next segment of the show because then we're going to talk about another revamped
Starting point is 00:54:12 80s property yes let's talk about what we're reading what are we gonna read i'm doing a thing west world two years of that, everyone. It's just good to have an end goal, you know what I mean? It's like when you're anticipating a movie, but you're like, it's two years away. What if I just stopped doing it then, though? That would have been the ultimate twist, but that's not fun for me. Mason.
Starting point is 00:54:36 I enjoy the part of your brain that's like, this would be the ultimate twist. So in this segment of the show, we talk about things we've read, watched, listened to, just some fun we've been having. A talk about things we've read, watched, listened to Just some fun we've been having Bit of fun we've been having And have you been having any fun this week? I watched a couple of episodes of Masters of the Universe Revelation
Starting point is 00:54:53 I know you did as well I watched four episodes And let me just say, minor spoilers Sure Because it takes a turn pretty early on Yes There's minor controversies, I should point out From Kevin Smith's Master of the Universe.
Starting point is 00:55:06 So time code if you do want to skip ahead. But this is also what I'm going to talk about is just in the first episode and then a different turn from there. So they basically dispatch both He-Man and Skeletor. Straight up. In the first episode. Yeah. Which is and then it becomes a show about-
Starting point is 00:55:25 Teela. Teela and also Man at Arms and some other more minor characters. Which, look, I know people are like upset about this, like this shift in central focus or whatever. Again, of this toy property. But also, the original series is, it's awful. It's an awful show. Yep.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Like there is some stuff from the 80s that does hold up, but He-Man is – it's not – like it's a fun universe and designs and all that kind of thing, but it's bad. Like it's bad. And if – I don't know. Maybe you've been waiting, you know, 30 years for a follow-up, which this is technically because I think it does so much right in terms of the character design and they'll roll in a vehicle that I'm like, oh, my God,
Starting point is 00:56:06 I remember that vehicle. It's so dumb and they brought it back. It's so awkward. Why would anybody drive that? You're looking for trouble. Oh, it's Moss Man, Moss Man. You know what I mean? They also kill a bunch of minor and major characters, which is cool.
Starting point is 00:56:20 And I don't know. Again, I'm only four in and I think they're going to finish up season one later in this year. But what do you think? It is extremely reminiscent of the originals, especially in terms of there's a lot of silly dialogue. Like, it looks like somebody will fall in the water. They're like, Skeletor, you're all washed up. But also a lot of that is in flashback.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Yeah, and you have some cool self-aware characters who are like, really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Did I really say that? There's a no glove, no love line in it. Sure is.
Starting point is 00:56:53 That's pure Kevin Smith. I'm like, that's so Kevin Smith. That's the most Kevin Smith thing I've ever heard in my life. But it doesn't feel like a self-referential kind of Kevin Smith kind of situation. No, it's mostly quite earnest, I think. It reminded me a lot of New Voltron in that way. I don't think it's as good as New Voltron. But then again, New Voltron got a lot of episodes
Starting point is 00:57:12 and developed the characters. So it could become that. But yeah, I think it's interesting that not only does it, you know, play around with kind of the lore and characters and things like that, alliances shift on certain characters, like priorities change once He-Man and Skeletor are gone. That's right. Also, He-Man looks a lot different than Prince Adam, which is good.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Yeah, right. Because, you know. People probably should have figured it out. They were the same guy in the original. There's also some, like, interesting commentary about certain characters. Like, Evil Lim mentions that Man-at-Arms, she considers the most dangerous person in Eternia, like not He-Man,
Starting point is 00:57:46 because He-Man's just like a buffoon who runs in a swingy sword. But Man-at-Arms is like... And he's got furry underpants. He's got furry underpants, but Man-at-Arms is like tactical and dangerous and builds weapons and he's a lunatic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:56 So it's like, I just, like stuff like that, I thought was really interesting. Yeah. Again, I haven't finished the first season as of yet, but it's pretty good. It's pretty good. And it looks good. It looks great.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Again, it looks how your childlike brain imagined it. In that bad show. Last year. Yes, that's right. But, like, yeah, when you're a kid and you watch something with terrible animation or whatever, in your mind this is how it would have looked. Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I also think, though, if you love He-Man and Skeletor, I could also see why you would be upset that they killed him. I get that. But if you love He-Man and Skeletor, you're in your 40s. And why don't you get your action figures and make them kiss if you love them so much? If you love them so much. Set up a little mock wedding in your little Castle Greyskull playset.
Starting point is 00:58:42 That's right. And have them get married. Have them married over the Castle Greyskull playset and have them get married. Have them married over the Castle Greyskull altar. And then they can have finger foods in the bloody reception area. In the moat. In the moat, exactly. Yeah, just get over it. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:58:57 It was a thing. You've been tricked. If you're like, they have really destroyed, they've really despoiled the memory of the Masters of the Universe. You should watch all 180 episodes. Go back and watch it, and it's bad, and they tricked you because it was just about selling toys. Surprise.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Also, there's a reboot from like 2003-ish, which is quite good from what I remember. It's more like He-Man fighting Skeletor. But also, I mean, I haven't finished it, but I'd imagine everything's going to come back at some point, either through time travel or resurrection or whatever. I don't know. And if they don't, I don't give a shit because it's a property that is bad.
Starting point is 00:59:36 That's true, yeah. But, you know, again, if you love it, just make them get married. Set up a little ceremony. Invite your friends. Don't explain what you're doing, but invite them around for a barbecue and they'd say, surprise, He-Man and Skeletor are getting married. Just say, me and my wife have something to announce, and your wife's like, really?
Starting point is 00:59:57 All right, here we go. You pull back a little curtain. Yeah. Yeah. Man at Arms gives away He-Man. Stinkor is not invited because of the stink he makes. But I do love seeing characters pop up and be like, oh, my God, I remember that guy.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Yeah. Look at that guy. He's got three sets of eyes. Oh, my God, it's that aqua dude or whatever his name is. It's a robot probably. It's a robot probably. Yeah, I had that robot, I think. There's also Blue Robot He-Man.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Oh, Faker. Faker, yeah. Just like the band Faker. I've not heard of that band. Yeah, you have. They're Australian. I've never heard of that band. You have heard of them.
Starting point is 01:00:32 What country did you say they're from, sorry? Australia, the country we're from. Don't know that either, mate. Sorry, can't help you. Your famous character is Mr. Unhelpful. There he is. Mr. Obstinate. Yeah, he's not ignorant. He's just Mr Unhelpful. There he is. Mr Obstinate. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:46 He's not ignorant. He's just deliberately unhelpful. Anything else you're reading or you want to read? Ah, gosh. You been watching any of the Olympics? No. The opening ceremony happened. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:58 And Claire, I'm like, I'm not really interested in the Olympics. Claire's like, you don't understand. It's about the world coming together and everything's being terrible and this is about people uniting. Maybe it's something that everybody needs. I'm like, Claire's like, you don't understand. It's about the world coming together and everything's being terrible. And this is about people uniting. You know, maybe it's something that everybody needs. I'm like, fine, fuck, I'll watch it. Jesus. So I watched the opening ceremony.
Starting point is 01:01:13 You're like, oh, I wish all these characters could get married. That's what I said. And so I watched the opening ceremony and just grim stuff, empty stadium, like really bare bones kind of, or the opening part at least because then all the countries start walking out, which I don't know if you ever sat through that. They all started walking out? They all started walking out.
Starting point is 01:01:32 But it also takes like three hours for people to walk out. And then Claire fell asleep, so I'm just sitting there watching this thing and being like, look, it's Bulgaria, and people come out and wave. I'm like, good to see you, Bulgaria, whatever. But apparently it got a little bit better afterwards. But Claire's super into the Olympics, as is my son. come out and wave and be like, good to see you, Bob Gehry, or whatever. But apparently it got a little bit better afterwards. But Claire's super into the Olympics, as is my son.
Starting point is 01:01:50 When you came in, you saw them watching the Olympics together. That's right. I think it's probably because we all have fond memories of the Sydney Olympics from 2000. We're all like, oh, my God, they're all amazing like this. But, I mean, anybody else in the world watching the Sydney Olympics opening ceremony would have been like, who's that? Is that Daryl Summers? Is that Daryl Summers? Is that Daryl Summers?
Starting point is 01:02:06 It was. Yeah, wow. I remember being embarrassed at the point where they went, they brought out our national icons and there were three floats and these were the floats. It was the Wiggles. Yes. It was.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Really? Original line-up, the Wiggles. It was original or whatever the line-up was. Doug Mulray. Yep. It was Doug. And Stan Zemeckis. Stan Zemanek.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Zemanek, thank you. Really? Stan Zemanek? So it was the Wiggles. This is the thing. I would not honestly have been surprised if it actually was Stan Zemanek. It was the Wiggles. It was Kylie Minogue, Al Kylie.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Yeah, of course, yeah. And then it was Paul Hogan as dressed as Crocodile Dundee. Yes. This is the year 2000, by the way. Yeah. I guess Crocodile Dundee in Los Angeles was fresh in everybody's mind. But I just remember at the time being like, this is pretty embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Yeah. Like they couldn't have brought out the cast of Two Hands, which was Heath Ledger and Rose Byrne. Do you remember watching a lot of the Sydney Olympics? Are you going to be watching the Brisbane Olympics in 2032? I mean, assuming Brisbane hasn't sunk into the ocean, sure. Sure. Anything else?
Starting point is 01:03:15 I'm just looking at the 1999 Australian music charts. I'm just going to see. The arias? Yeah, the arias, yeah. There would have been some Powderfinger on there. I mean, probably. There would have been some Vanessa Ramirosi. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:24 There would have been that. Nikki Webster. Was Nikki Webster at the 2000 Olympics? She was introduced atas, yeah. There would have been some Powderfinger on there. I mean, probably. There would have been some Vanessa Ramorosi. Yeah. There would have been that. Nikki Webster. Was Nikki Webster at the 2011 Olympics? She was introduced at the, yeah. Wow. There would have been some. Madison Avenue. I was going to say.
Starting point is 01:03:33 In 1999, they had the hit, Don't Call Me Baby. So maybe they should have opened up the Sydney Olympics. They should have opened up Madison Avenue and also Chris Franklin. Doing bloke. No, well, he did a knockoff song, Don't Drink My Stubby. So there was Don't Call Me Baby and then he did Don't Drink My Stubby. That's incredible. That's great.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Savage Garden could have been there. It could have been there. That's all I'm saying. One of the lead singers, he followed me on Twitter for a bit, then he unfollowed me. Nice. Thanks, Darren Hayes. Silverchair could have been on.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Yeah, that's what I mean. Right? Al Kiley could have been on. Killing Heidi could have been on. Could have been there. I mean. Al Kiley could have been on. Killing Heidi could have been on. Could have been there. This is not interesting for anybody but us. No. Lenny Kravitz could have been there.
Starting point is 01:04:11 I guess. Alex Lloyd could have been there. LCD could have done their cover of Zorba's Dance there. Whoever LCD were. But they got to number 56 on the Australian Singles Chart in 1999. Grinspoon could have been there. Grinspoon. Oh in 1999. Grinspoon could have been there. Grinspoon? Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Taxi Ride could have been there. They could have sung Get Set. The song Get... That would have done well, right? Right? The song Get Set. My God. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Anyway, whatever. Yeah. Friends All... No. No effect. Human Nature could have been there. Well, they did a Vegas stint. God, Ricky Martin got so many hit singles.
Starting point is 01:04:45 He did, didn't he? It was big. Wow. Blood Hand Gang could have done the bad touch at the Sydney Olympics. We could have got them in. Anyway, grim stuff. Yeah, grim times. Empty stadiums.
Starting point is 01:04:58 But, you know, good. The world's coming together and whatever, I guess. So true. Whatever Claire said. You know what I mean? I do know exactly what you mean. It's time for letters, I think. I think it Whatever Claire said. You know what I mean? I do know exactly what you mean. It's time for letters, I think. I think it is.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Have you got that theme song ready? I do have a theme song ready, but I don't have any letters ready, so we might have to do the theme song and then pause briefly and I'll get some letters. I've just seen this. It's from Daniel Richtman on Twitter. Should we save it for the later segment? It's a hot scoop.
Starting point is 01:05:18 No, no, it's a hot scoop. It's a hot scoop. This is from the hot scoop segment. Is it Spider-Man? James, before you say what it is, are you willing to commit to the hot scoop or shot of poop rules? Yes, I am. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:05:29 For people who don't remember. So the other week I was on San Spence Radio's Base the Speculation. Yes, I do remember. When promoting our podcast, I said there's little to no like poop eating content. It has been foisted upon me. In this instance, there is. We have a segment called Hot Scoop or Shot of Po where james makes a bold claim based on a hot scoop that may be occurring
Starting point is 01:05:50 right now in the world of entertainment and if it turns out to be wrong james has to do a shot of poop that's right i don't make the rules they're just it's just the rules but but you've got one here and you're committing to the bit oh yeah so he says that there's no spider-man no way home trailer next week. Wow. But he also said forget the trailer. Like I said, get vaccinated and convince others if you want the movie to still come out this year, which is probably true. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:06:13 But, you know, who am I to say? It does come out this week, though. Yeah, you have to do the rule, don't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anything else? No, but lettuce. Here we go. The classic one was lettuce, oh, lettuce.
Starting point is 01:06:24 We love you, but lettuce. Here we go. The classic one was, Lettuce, oh lettuce, we love you. Some lettuce, they're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do lettuce. Saw this tweet also breaking. PM Scott Morrison has secured an extra 85 million Pfizer doses for delivery next year and some for 2023. Estimated cost is said to be $2 billion.
Starting point is 01:06:44 The deal with Pfizer was signed late this afternoon after some NCS, NSC, sorry, on Friday morning. Terrific. That's good stuff. All we need to do is wait until next year and then the year 2023. That's great. It is great. I'll be dead, Mason.
Starting point is 01:06:58 That's great. Anyway, what letters we got this week? Listen, listen, it's letters time. This is how people get to the show. They say, hey, I'm on Twitter. I've hashtagged Weekly Planet Pod. I've asked you a question. Is this how I reach the show?
Starting point is 01:07:10 That's correct. That is correct. Just hashtag us that way. You can add us, but I always search for the hashtag, so that's more likely to get on the show. What have you got, Mason? I'm looking right now. Or weeklyplanetpod.gmail.com.
Starting point is 01:07:22 That's exactly right. Yeah. Let us know how many push-ups you can do concurrently. And they can also be push-ups on your knees, but they have to be to your chest, okay? So let us know how many push-ups you can do in a row. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to know that.
Starting point is 01:07:36 I reckon it should be whatever system you use for a push-up is fine. I agree. Well, I think it's important to try and get as much depth as you can. Yes. And it's important to kind of keep your back, you know, kind of straight. You don't want poor, like, curved forms. Yeah, very true. You might end up injuring yourself.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, work up to as many as you can. You know what I mean? Start on your knees if you have to. If you want to then move to your feet. Also, you can start at an angle is a good way to kind of progress. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot of different ways you can do them.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Here's one for you, James. It's a good all-round exercise. Biceps, biceps, chest. This is from Vicente Fuente. Okay. It says Space Jam can make Marvel versus DC happen. Okay. He's in Missouri, and when me and my friends got together,
Starting point is 01:08:16 we decided to watch Space Jam while watching the movie. We all saw Rick and Morty. Obviously, he's in that. Spoiler alert. Rick and Morty are in that. No one cares. And I realized the most anticipated movie we all wanted to see, the Marvel and DC movie crossover, can happen because of Space Jam
Starting point is 01:08:30 because the Looney Tunes have crossed over with DC, obviously, and Rick and Morty's in Space Jam. Rick and Morty has also crossed over with The Simpsons because they're in the couch gag in one episode of The Simpsons. Oh, shit. But I just wanted to bring this up to ask you, James. He's written, P.S. I was high when I was watching Space Jam,
Starting point is 01:08:45 which led me to this theory. So my question is, do you think they'll ever do a Marvel versus DC? Yes. But I think there is no reason that either of them would want to do it right now. I reckon DC might want to do it now. Yeah, I think-
Starting point is 01:08:58 Rub some of that Marvel magic off. Apparently, I think they've got some stuff coming out that they're very confident in. Yeah, yeah. Including TV shows. So I think there's no reason that they- I think maybe a couple of years ago, yeah. Was there some rumours, maybe, maybe it was a couple of years ago, that Marvel was going to buy AT&T or Disney was going to buy AT&T.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Or Warner Brothers were considering offloading DC to Marvel. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, yeah. Maybe, yes. And they did end up selling them to Discovery or something, didn't they? Did they? There was a merger or something, didn't they? Did they? There was a merger or something recently. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:09:28 We talked about it. Yeah, maybe. Look, the important thing is it doesn't matter. That's very true. But, yeah, look, I'm not even that interested in it at the moment, to be honest. Are you? A Marvel-DC crossover.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Not really, not at the moment. There's some stuff already lined up that I kind of want to see first. Yeah, right. Including that Spider-Man trailer that's not coming out next week. I kind of think also I would love to see some definitive DC characters or actors as DC characters locked down before we did a crossover. So anybody in particular? I don't think I'd want to see, say, Marvel crossing over with Batman
Starting point is 01:10:01 if it's the Robert Pattinson Batman, like before he's established as a good Batman. Oh, I get what you're saying, yeah. If they were like tomorrow we're doing Marvel versus DC, I'd be like, I would like to see Batman do his own thing before. Yeah. That was my problem with the George Miller Justice League because I was like they're doing a Justice League movie
Starting point is 01:10:21 but it's not Christian Bale. Yeah, right, right. And the other time Armie Hammer was Batman. I was like, who the fuck is this? Why are they doing this? Yeah, right. Yeah. Anyway, I've got a tweet here, though.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Go on. From Joshua Budman, who says, hashtag WeeperClanopod. On July 26, I turned 40. What's your favorite coming of age movie? This is 40 is a good coming of age movie for turning 40. That's true. Very funny movie, I think. Stand By Me?
Starting point is 01:10:48 Stand By Me. Perks of Being a Wolf, that was a more recent-ish one. Sandlot, Superbad, Stand By Me, Booksmart. I also like the movie Semitane again. Zac Efron, Matthew Perry, The Rosely Man. It's a pretty funny movie, man. Also, I watched it on a plane coming back from Africa along with G.I. Joe, Rise of Cobra.
Starting point is 01:11:06 So, you know, maybe that's why I like that movie. Maybe that's the whole issue there. Yeah, I really like Stand By Me. Yeah. It's been a long time since I've watched it. I watched it maybe last year. It's good. Got any more?
Starting point is 01:11:17 I've got a couple more. Yeah, okay. Zoltan says, I've seen several videos about how the finals, finales of WandaVision and Loki sync up at the 27-minute mark. Have you seen this? Spoiler alert for Loki. Say again?
Starting point is 01:11:30 The finales of WandaVision and Loki sync up at the 27-minute mark. So as Kang or whoever he is is like, well, the multiverse is just whatever, cut over to WandaVision and her powers are all like unveiling and they kind of pause at the same time and so they kind of sync up quite well. Okay, right. In this theory, Sylvie killing Kang has nothing to do with the multiverse. It was all about Wanda. What do you think?
Starting point is 01:11:52 Coincidence or master plan fully realized? I think it's a coincidence, but I don't know, to be honest. It does sync up weirdly, yeah. Huh. Like for just a fraction of a second? No, for, like, a lot of it, yeah. That's wild. As, like, for like a lot of it. Yeah. That's wild.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Okay. As like get past the point of where he doesn't know what's going to happen in the universe and that coincides with Wanda's powers like manifesting. So. Interesting. That's something to think about. Still. Everything we say is something to think about, I reckon. Well, not everything.
Starting point is 01:12:20 What else, Mason? Oh, okay. Here's one. All right. Let's do it. This is Ryan Smallman. Hello, Ryan Smallman. Who you might know as doing that Robat's Bat and Bat. Oh, I do know. Do you remember that?, okay, here's one. All right, let's do it. This is from Ryan Smallman. Hello, Ryan Smallman. Who you might know as doing that Robat's Bat and Bat.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Oh, I do know him. Do you remember that? I do know him. Greetings, James and Mason. With the release of Space Jam, Lights and Noise, I found myself deeply saddened once again by the original Space Jam sequel that was cancelled called Skate Jam, which would have featured the tunes teaming up with skateboarding icon
Starting point is 01:12:41 Tony Hawk, which we mentioned, I think. Interesting. That got me thinking of other cancelled projects that had incredible potential that still bum me out, like the Guillermo del Toro Hobbit films, Sacha Baron Cohen's R-rated Freddie Mercury biopic, Remy's Spider-Man 4, Nick Cage's Superman, and the list goes on. We'd love to hear which cancelled films you guys would have loved to have seen.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Maybe you could make an episode on it. Wow, okay. We have done them in the past. an episode on it. Wow, okay. We have done some, we've done them in the past. Jeez, there's a lot, man. It's not movies, but I would have loved to have seen the Hideo Kojima, Guillermo del Toro, Silent Hills. Yes.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Which people, I don't know if people remember, there was a Did you play the demo? No, I never, I didn't have a PS4 at the time. I think that was, you can still, you'd have to buy You'd have to buy a used PS3 or 4 or whatever it was. So for people who don't know, Hideo Kojima, who made the Metal Gear games, he released a trailer called PT. It was just released on the PlayStation Store.
Starting point is 01:13:38 You could download it for free and play it. And it was this weird horror game. And at the end of the game, this demo, it was revealed that, A, your player character was norman reedus and also it was a trailer for a silent hill sequel called silent hills yes uh but then hideo kojima had a fall uh had a falling out with konami yep who he made the metal gear games with and they were like they were cancelling everything so including you and then he made death stranding instead yeah some people love, but to me it looks like a nightmare. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:07 But I would have loved to have seen that because I enjoyed the Silent Hill games back in the day. There's been some hints and whispers that they might be doing some stuff. Yeah. I don't think he will, but I think there might be a remake of Silent Hills. Okay. Hill. Did you say they're doing Dead Space? They're remaking Dead Space?
Starting point is 01:14:20 I did say that, yeah. It's pretty, I mean, not that I've played it in like a long time. Did you play all the Dead Spaces? I played one and two. Okay, right. And I played three. They're remaking Dead Space. I did see that, yeah. It's pretty, I mean, not that I've played it in a long time. Did you play all the Dead Spaces? I played one and two. Okay, right. And I played three. They're really great, and I don't think you'd really need to update that game, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:14:33 But wouldn't you love to see a new generation see Dead Space, original Dead Space? No, I don't want anybody to see it. The problem with Dead Space was that- What you could do, James, though, is you could watch somebody play it and be like, what's this going to jump out? I wouldn't remember it. But the problem with Dead Space is they marketed it
Starting point is 01:14:50 like it was like a AAA game. It was supposed to be like this big thing and there were comics and tiny movies and whatnot. But it's like it was just being established horror franchise, you know? So like you can't launch it like that. It's got to build like Resident Evil did, you know? Sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:15:09 So they kind of came at it too big too quickly, which is why they then packed the third one with microtransactions and skins and whatever and fucked it and cancelled it. And then they shut down Visceral as well who made it. I would have loved to see Sacha Baron Cohen's Freddie Mercury movie. Oh, yeah, definitely. As opposed to what the thing that we watched. God, that movie's awful Baron Cohen's Freddie Mercury movie. Oh, yeah, definitely. As opposed to what the thing that we watched. God, that movie's awful. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:25 It's an awful movie. Good performances and everybody's got the right wig, but it's not a good movie. Bad. I don't know. Yeah, we should come back to that, though. Yeah, definitely. I got one more from Simon who says,
Starting point is 01:15:37 Hashtag weekly planet pod. Hey, guys, I recently heard James talk about Twitch Unsuggestible and was wondering if you two follow any Twitch channels or would ever be open to streaming. I don't. I watch like Twitch highlights of certain people every now and then. Yeah, right, right, right. On YouTube. What about you? I will occasionally drop into like Friend of the Show's
Starting point is 01:15:54 Twitch channel just to check out what's going on. So like Ben Russell or Naomi Higgins or the Gamey Game channel or something like that. I don't know if the stream is available, but I did do a call-in on Ben Russell's Twitch channel like ago during during one of the many lockdowns it was good good fun time it's good it's a it's a lot twitch have you noticed that it's all there's a lot of noise and chat and and videos yeah bouncing around and effects and yeah you kind of i don't
Starting point is 01:16:21 know i know you can kind of do it simply and whatever, but it's kind of like it feels like a lot. Yeah, yeah. If we were to do it, I know where they film Gamey Game Game and do go on and a bunch of other stuff, we could probably do something like from there. If we were going to stream it, that's probably how we'd do it, which we might end up doing at some point depending if we want to. What would we stream?
Starting point is 01:16:41 Play video games? Maybe. Or maybe we'd just like stream a show, like do one of these live or whatever. I don't know, man. I would we stream? Playing video games? Maybe. Or maybe we'd just, like, stream a show to, like, do one of these live or whatever. I don't know, man. I honestly don't know. And maybe we'd do it through YouTube and not Twitch necessarily, but I don't know. Is that it? That's the whole show, James.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Thank God for you. We made it. Yeah. Because you can escape. I have tumbled, let me tell you. You doing all right? Yeah, I'm doing good. Let's bloody wrap it up then.
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Starting point is 01:17:15 The thing that I love. Yeah, it's not. I've listened to the whole thing, but I sort of enjoyed it. Just come back next week, though. We'll cover your fly fishing. This isn't a podcast by a guy who knows things about G.I. Joe. It's about a guy just saying stuff he vaguely remembers about G.I. Joe.
Starting point is 01:17:30 That's the same. Yeah, it's the same, really. That's the same. Thank you for leaving a five-star review, James. You got one there? Got a couple right here, nice. And this is from Darmiz, who says, I'm tired. These guys do another show called Caravan of Garbage. One of my best friends I introduced this show to called and woke me up in the middle of the night confused about the title because they reviewed in Caravan of Garbage the first Iron Man movie and I introduced this show to called and woke me up in the middle of the night confused about the title because they reviewed in Caravan
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Starting point is 01:20:00 And that's the show next week. Who knows what we're going to talk about? Are you checking the news real quick? I am, yeah. I'm just looking at what's going on. Has anything happened in what we're going to talk about? Are you checking the news real quick? I am, yeah. I'm just looking at what's going on. Has anything happened in Comic-Con since we've started? No. Oh, I just do want to mention this.
Starting point is 01:20:11 Some people have said that actually those accelerator suits were from a G.I. Joe animated series from like 2006. It's a coincidence. Because Stephen Summers had an idea for them. They may have designed some of it off that, but it's a coincidence. Stay out of my mentions. Stay out of James's mentions. God.
Starting point is 01:20:28 No, there doesn't seem to be any more news. What a big Comic-Con this year. Well, you know, it's the pandemic. What do you do? You know what I mean? The penny-wanny. Again, the only article I could find is from IGN is from, like, Friday, I think. The best Comic-Con collectibles for 2021.
Starting point is 01:20:43 I'll go to the San Diego Comic-Con official Twitter page. Yep. Should have looked at this earlier. Destination Fears getting a panel. No, this is a fucking ghost town, mate. Anyway, you've got to get out of here. I apologize. Thanks for listening, everybody.
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