The Weekly Planet - 427 Worst Movie & Series Spin-Offs

Episode Date: March 28, 2022

Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.It’s Monthbius time everyone and the early Morbius reactions are in.... Things are not looking good. But in honour of Monthbius we continue our look into the best and worst spin-offs this time looking at a bunch of big failures.  Time codes below, thanks for listening.SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jN0:00 The Start3:31 The Batman Joker deleted scene (spoilers)10:11 Voltron movie moving forward13:06 Netflix be cancelling15:33 Spider-Man be looking bad19:49 Nova coming to the MCU23:30 Hulk in Deadpool 325:06 Celebrating how everyone hates Morbius already35:03 Worst Movie & Series Spin-Offs1:15:45 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read1:23:14 Letters, It’s Time For LettersJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:56 Red hot comic book movie news. Shooting up your butthole. The Weekly Planet. The Weekly Planet. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode. The Weekly Planet. The Weekly Planet. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday, and with me, as always, is my co-host.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Is that one Nick Mason? Yes. Wow. It's great to have you here, Nick Mason. What one am I plugged into here? That's a really great question. The silver one. Once again, it's chaos at Mission Control here, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:01:25 See, Claire's plugging it back in. She's put us into two and three. Two and three? Two and three. Who's bloody number one? So I'm looking at this and I'm like, is this even any way? Is any of this recording is the question? Well, who knows?
Starting point is 00:01:36 Oh, okay. Look, I see. You see great things ahead. I see great things in green lights. Excellent. Fantastic. Hey, listen. This is the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows.
Starting point is 00:01:46 And this week we've got so many hot topics on the card, Mason. We've got so many hot topics on the card we might even cut out all the technical faults. Do you think so? But no, I think we should leave it in. Even if we do cut it out, we do have this back up here. That's right. We're backing it up, baby. I'm recording this one this week, but Collings is taking the week off,
Starting point is 00:02:05 so I'm going to be editing this one. So I apologize in advance. I don't do this as much anymore. But just know that I'm trying my best. And, yes, I didn't put the Planet Broadcasting thing at the front. I know that already. Wow. It's a clever marketing trick to get people talking.
Starting point is 00:02:17 You know what I mean? I'm certainly talking about it. Because I brought it up? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, cool. Anyways, these are the topics for the week. Did he forget about it? Is that what happened? These are the topics for the week forget about it is that what happened these are the topics for the week mason how are you listening what's he even talking about oh that's a great point uh i'm uh so this is what we're going to
Starting point is 00:02:33 look at i'll put time codes below probably so we're going to talk about a batman joker deleted scene that was revealed my goodness there might be some spoilers for joker for the movie joker i agree and also the movie the batman two things So if you want to skip that, time codes. Also, do you like Voltron movies, Mason? I've never seen a Voltron movie, but I guess in theory I would. Yeah, it's nice in theory, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've also got Deadpool 3 news, potentially maybe The Hulk something.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Okay, that's pretty good. We're also, then it's just Morbius all the way to the end. Okay. Because I don't know if people have heard. We're in Monthbius right now. We're in Monthbius. And we've got some early word about what's going on. The directors online just spilling all sorts of Morpheus secrets.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Have you heard the word about a real turd? That's what he keeps saying. And then, of course, in honour of Monthbius. I was like, is there a vampire word that rhymes with herd and word? But then I'm like, no, you've got gold right there. So it's fine right there. Exactly. But yeah, and of course, in honour of Monthbius,
Starting point is 00:03:25 last week we did our best spin-offs, including TV series and movies. And this week we're doing worst. That's right. Let me tell you, I've got a list here that's going to spin that little top hat you wear, Mason, to the show every week. Which way?
Starting point is 00:03:37 Which way? Like, will it spin? Counterclockwise. Will it spin like a buzzsaw? Or will it flip off my head and spin around like a clock and then land back on my head? Yeah, that one. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I thought so. The very idea of that has bloody blown my top hat off. Let me tell you this. I agree. But also at BigSandwich.co where we do a bunch of bonus stuff, movie commentaries, whatever, we did a Morbius book club that's up there right now. People can check it out.
Starting point is 00:04:04 We did a classic attempt to find a definitive Morbius comic that perhaps if you were disappointed by the movie, you might enjoy that. Yeah, but there's some okay stuff. That's all we found. There's some pretty fun stuff in there, I thought. I agree. His first appearance is, there's a lot of words in it, let me tell you.
Starting point is 00:04:21 And he has to fight Spider-Man and Spider-Man has six arms. That's right. And that's what happens anyways uh the batman yes mentioned got a deleted scene a full scene this is just very early in the day to release this yeah barry uh apparently it's key on maybe it's key on but it also might not be every week we're getting closer to the answer i hit up like four or five different how-to pronounced. I went to different interviews. It was all different. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:50 There's even just interviews of people flat out asking him and he puts his pinky up and he's like, I'll never tell. That's right. That's very Joker of him. Yeah, yeah. Now, prior to seeing this, I assumed this was more of a post-credits situation. But this evidently is set during the movie itself, which is interesting.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Smack bang in the middle of month B. It's a really bold time to drop this, don't you think? That's exactly right. There's another Batman on the loose. So, yeah, we did actually mention this. It was deleted because it kind of didn't, like the director said it was interesting, but it didn't really add anything to the story.
Starting point is 00:05:29 And I think you also mentioned if you drop him at the start then you're like when is he coming back it's um yeah yeah what do you think of the look though well yeah we're talking to look uh very interesting i mean we don't get a it's mostly out of focus but a lot of people sort of enhanced it yeah uh but it's chemical burns right from his yeah i mean as i understand it i read a snippet of an interview i think it was matt reeves and and barry can that's right you got it and and they was i think because again it's one of those things where it's completely up in the air i think maybe the idea of it initially was that he was born like that. Yeah, the smile. It's Lady Gaga style. He was born like this.
Starting point is 00:06:07 The smile thing was apparently that. So that's like congenital. So he was born with the ability. It was not an ability so much. He was born with the inability to frown, basically. He always seems to be smiling. Yeah. Which is more in line with like the Nicholson Joker who can't not smile.
Starting point is 00:06:25 That is true. Because his facial nerves were cut or whatever. It reminded me not so much the look of this actual Joker that appeared in it, but in Batman Earth 1, that's a more gruesome, gross, real kind of universe. Yeah, right. Which like a lot of the Batman is. But it also felt very kind of like the way it was peeling,
Starting point is 00:06:43 the New 52 with the Joker who cut his face off and then put it back on. Because you see like the back of like the way it was peeling the new 52 with the joker who cut his face off and then put it back on could you see like the back of his head and it's all scarred and he's like missing patches of his hair and i was gonna say in terms of the look fresh new look yep hot new look in terms of like delivery it's very heath ledger's joker isn't it i think so it's uh like what do you we've kind of we've kind of We've kind of stalled on Heath Ledger's... Where do you go? Well, I guess that's a good question because there are different versions of the Joker. I mean, like your Mark Hamill voice of the Joker
Starting point is 00:07:13 is more like big and theatrical. But I guess if your character is in prison, you've got to go smaller than that because otherwise people will be like, keep it down. Bit of shush. We're trying to read our newspapers. of shush the joker yeah i'm trying to cut the number of days i've been in here in the wall a bit of shush i've got to say like i didn't dislike it
Starting point is 00:07:35 i thought it was interesting yes but i am glad they cut it i don't think it would have added to the movie no like like we said it's a bit of Chekhov's The Joker. You'd expect him to show up in the third act and do something. You'd expect, you know, the seawall to break or something and then the Arkham doors come unlocked or something. The power failure releases all the prisoners and he's in there or something like that. Also, I think the scene explained too much. About the Riddler?
Starting point is 00:08:04 About the Riddler and about what was going to happen. So in the movie, we are heavily into spoilers right now, folks. Yeah, we're in my movies. But at the end of the movie, it is revealed that the Riddler thinks he is helping Batman. Yeah. He thinks he is ridding Gotham of evildoers, which he is in a lot of ways, whereas Batman just thought he was a deranged killer. But in this deleted scene, the Joker literally says,
Starting point is 00:08:28 he likes you a lot and he wants to do stuff for you. And I think we'd go, well, that's what happened. Yeah, absolutely. Also, it's been pointed out by a few people online. Online, you say? Online, on the internet line. I love the internet. You can do so much on the internet line. I agree the internet. You can do so much on the internet line.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I agree. Anyway, hands in the folder. You can get stamps.com. You can get pets.com. Really? What's a pets.com? I mean, currently a lot of dead pets, I would imagine, because that site's been out of business for a while.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Oh, no, they didn't clean them out at the end? No, no, no. That's sad. But he gives back the folder to Batman that's missing the paperclip. Oh, so he can't escape with that. He's gone. I mean, he doesn't by the end of the movie, obviously. No, that's missing the paperclip. Oh, so he's gone on escape with that. He's gone on escape. I mean, he doesn't by the end of the movie, obviously. No, that's true, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Maybe he just needed a paperclip. That's right. He's like, my plan is coming to fruition, and he just clips some postcards together or something. Finally. That's right. Yeah, I thought it was a fun little oddity. I also don't know whether it will speak to, like,
Starting point is 00:09:24 what we see of the joker next even if they stick to that look yeah maybe they won't they've got time to kind of reinvent it yeah again if he is going to show up but also i think if they're releasing this i think this is canon well i was just going to say if it if it doesn't appear in the theatrical version is it canonical are they going to release when it comes to to streaming and and blu-ray is it going to be a director's cut with that scene in there yeah because i mean matt reeves has said i think in the past no what came to what what came to the movie what came to the theater is is my cut i don't and it's three hours people change their tune it's all there you know what i mean also
Starting point is 00:09:59 it's doing very well it's obviously the biggest movie since spider-man until until morbius obviously my god i can't wait to watch morbius every day for the rest of my life. Look, I would like to say, I think it's not canonical. I mean, what do fans generally think? I think they'll like it. Yeah, what do you think? Or they might put it in. No, actually, they couldn't, could they?
Starting point is 00:10:20 I didn't think it should go in. No. I was going to say they could put it in the sequel somehow, but I don't know if they... Maybe put it in the prequel. Maybe put it... Well, it's also interesting the idea that we didn't even touch upon that...
Starting point is 00:10:31 They already had big adventures. That means Batman and the Joker had big adventures, presumably in year one. Maybe together. They had a good time. They had a fun time. Yeah. Because in Batman year one, Frank Miller's Batman year one,
Starting point is 00:10:43 he fights a bunch of gang mobsters and so on and so forth. Yeah, that kind of stuff. And then at the very end, Gordon is like, I hope he can deal with this Joker fellow. Like Batman Year One? Yeah. But also Batman Begins. Oh, yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:10:58 It's the same thing. So, yeah, I guess that's where it's slotted in. Yeah, interesting. Batman Year and a Half. Wow. I love how they change things, but also it makes me mad. Mason, it's time for another bit of news. I'd love another bit of news.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Thank you. It's by The Hollywood Reporter. Red Notice director Rawson Marshall Thurber. Fake name. No, real guy, real name. He's developing a Voltron live action movie. Okay. Apparently, an absolute beating war like you've never seen, Mason,
Starting point is 00:11:24 has busted out between Warner Brothers Pictures, Universal Pictures, and Amazon Studios. To distribute this, I guess. Yes. Apparently, also Netflix, who currently own some of the rights to Voltron, or at least have got that show, so I think it's more distribution, are not interested in this. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:40 They're not. Well, I mean, that's classic. That is classic Netflix, isn't it? They've done their dash. Yeah. Look, I've always wanted to see a live is classic Netflix, isn't it? They've done their dash. Yeah. Look, I've always wanted to see a live-action Voltron. I don't care. Who knows, quite frankly.
Starting point is 00:11:50 James, James. Now all the listeners know. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. I should be embarrassed, yeah? Yeah. I mean, and you could edit this out, but you don't know how. I'm not even listening back to this.
Starting point is 00:12:00 You've lost the touch. I didn't even put the sting in. Oh, my gosh. I mean, I did at the top. That was for marketing purposes, but I think I just didn't know how to do it, to be honest. Yeah. But look, here's the thing that worries me about this.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Go on. Because I would love to see Voltron in live action. That was like one of the first things that I liked as a kid. You know what I mean? James, you're going to look back on this in 20 years and you're going to be like, I was really worried. You'll be like, this is what I was worried about in terms of the live action voltron movie this is going to be you know like
Starting point is 00:12:28 kids high school graduation or something like that i have that's right it's going to take them 20 years oh no more than 20 years and that's my fault that's your fault because you were too busy talking about voltron all the time but the netflix series is incredible right the Netflix series is incredible, right? Yeah, it's good. The original show is, it's not very good, right? I agree. And it's like a weird mishmash of stuff they took from Japan. The car one is unrelated and they mushed them together. There's apparently also a third one. There was a gladiator one or something.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I can't remember. It was a series of toy commercials. Yeah, exactly. But the director of this is, to be fair, I haven't seen Red Notice, but he did Dodgeball, he did We're the Millers, and he did Skyscraper. And look, some of those, like Dodgeball, yeah, it's funny, I remember it being or whatever. But like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:13:19 You know? Sure, you know. Maybe he's got a really good vision for it, but do you remember liking the movie Skyscraper Yeah kind of I think we reviewed it on here I didn't hate it We did
Starting point is 00:13:29 We fought in that Wall of televisions At the end or whatever We thought he wasn't Going to make that jump Because he only had one leg And also it was a really long jump Even if he had two legs
Starting point is 00:13:37 He probably couldn't do it Yeah he probably Couldn't do it So again I don't even I don't even hate Any of those movies really I don't think
Starting point is 00:13:43 But like It's not like Wow this is like The person Like if they were like You know I don't even hate any of those movies, really, I don't think. But, like, it's not like, wow, this is, like, the person. Like, if they were, like, you know, I don't know. Who does big robots? Steven Spielberg. AI. Maybe, yeah. I think that could be cool as well.
Starting point is 00:13:55 But anyway. Oh, it wouldn't be bad. Who did robot jocks? Get them back. I'm going to look it up. But in the meantime, I read an article this week about, speaking of Netflix, I read an article this week about the cancellation of Netflix, I read an article this week about the cancellation of the Babysitter's Club show.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Apparently there's a show on Netflix. And isn't it really, people like that show, don't they? Well, people like it apparently, and it did good, really good numbers, and it won some awards. Yeah. And it's like, it's not like they're not trying to age the kids up or whatever, it's just like a nice show for kids, and they have their adventures or whatever it is. But it's pretty much an entirely an article about like the
Starting point is 00:14:28 interview the creator and they're like this did really well but then they just changed the algorithm for what gets a green light for another season and what doesn't oh and they're just like not not not again we're not we're not doing it again was this the i also saw an article i didn't read it but it was titled something like netflix keeps cancelling tv series so i'm just not going to watch them like it was something yeah was that the article you're talking this is a different article okay oh my god there's there's james there's been so much discourse this week i don't know is that allowed uh yes this is this will be my one bit of news this week collings edit that out if no no no collings listen i need you to come back and edit that out if Mason's wrong about how much discourse
Starting point is 00:15:05 there was. There was so much discourse, James. There was a bunch of stuff about Netflix keeps cancelling things and I'm like, what are you doing, Netflix? Is it all going to come crashing down? Well, maybe, because I think you kind of... And they keep making it more expensive. Yeah, but you need brands
Starting point is 00:15:21 and not only that, you need people to be loyal and to be kind of bound to those things. Yeah. You know what I mean? And if people are just like, why should I watch? Like that taboo Tom Hardy show came up and I'm like, oh, what's this? Oh, it's from 2017 and they did one season and they're talking about maybe they might do another one in three years
Starting point is 00:15:38 or whatever and I'm like, well, I'm fucking not watching that. Well, exactly. It's like there's so many shows where you go all the time. You've got to talk about Voltron. I can't have time to watch this. I've got where you go, you've got to talk about Voltron. I can't have time to watch this. I've got to wake my kids up and talk to them about Voltron. Hey, kids, there's no time for a good refreshing night of sleep so you can go to school and learn.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I've got to talk about Voltron. But, yeah, like any time there's an intriguing premise, I always look at it and go, are they going to wrap this up in a way that is satisfying or are they just gonna cancel it after a season or two seasons when it's right in the when we've just started enjoying the characters in the plot and what have you and is he gonna buddy come on what are you thinking over there yeah i think them yeah what do you think just voltron i guess um yeah i don't know if
Starting point is 00:16:21 there's gonna be i don't know if we're gonna have a big mass exodus of yeah maybe but also the the other bit of discourse apparently spider-man no way home is on streaming this week and so i've i don't know if you've seen this but this week on twitter for me as in free streaming i don't think so okay right i think it's but it's it's just it was just this week twitter for me was just like individual still frames of the movie and people going look at the lighting on that. That sucks. This sucks. We hate this. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Yeah. It was the, there's the shot of flash Thompson is in the city and Spider-Man appears behind him or something, whatever that is. And how do you feel about this? I mean, I don't disagree that like there are shots in that,
Starting point is 00:16:57 that, that don't look good. Yeah. And then there's some stuff on the bridge that looks a bit wonky, but also I guess you got to factor in that. It was also, it was shot during a pandemic. I guess you got to factor in that it was also, it was shot during a pandemic. It was, that's true.
Starting point is 00:17:07 But it's also, I don't think it's strictly a pandemic thing with Marvel. No. And I was actually, the Corridor crew did a video this week and they had one of the guys who worked on Shang-Chi on, and he talked about the final fight where he fights the Mandarin or whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:20 And they had an original background and they were like, ah, it doesn't look any good. So they just had to literally like. Who did the Corridor crew? No, not them, but they had the guy on and they had an original background and they were like, ah, it doesn't look any good. So they just had to literally like. Who did the corridor crew? No, not them, but they had the guy on and they had to, like it wasn't filmed in front of a green screen, but they had to cut this guy out, like them both fighting it and then put it on a different background.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Oh, Marvel did. Yeah, because it doesn't look that good. So it's like stuff like that where it's like, well, that's kind of why maybe some stuff looks murky because you're not lighting it properly and it's not filmed under the conditions that mean you can make these kinds of things, make it look a certain way. Yeah, I mean, I don't think that it looks...
Starting point is 00:17:51 I mean, again, it is that... If I'm watching this movie for one, a scene that happened, you know, a shot that lasts one second, if the light and shadow don't match up, I'm probably not going to notice that unless it's a long shot and it's really egregious. And yeah, on Twitter, yeah, it's not a good shot. Like, it doesn't... is the shadow the light and shadow don't match up i'm i'm probably not going to notice that unless it's a long shot and it's really egregious and you're on twitter yeah it's not a good shot like
Starting point is 00:18:09 it doesn't but i i also like i think there is some value to being critical of this sort of stuff or you know any anything any huge i don't i don't think it makes me enjoy any of these movies any less if you if you go on you know this is a bit shady or whatever or this is poorly. Because I kind of feel like any time with this big franchise stuff, like any time they get away with stuff with no criticism, they're just like, we'll do it again. Do it again. You're absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:18:37 And I've said that with the writing of No Way Home. I enjoyed it as an experience, but there was a bunch of bits where I'm like, you could have just saved that with one sentence. And one of my fears is that two phases down the line, if we're still going, people will be like, these movies are bad now. Because they just went, doesn't matter, we don't need to fix that, people will still love it.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Just shove it out the door kind of thing. Yeah, and also the things about that movie that I did enjoy, it's none of that stuff is that important to me for a movie like that. Like my favorite scenes are in that, like the three Spider-Men just chatting. Just being like, what's some weird stuff you've fought? I can't remember. Yeah. I got it in the head.
Starting point is 00:19:16 But like that's the stuff that I remember. But that's because it's not what I'm kind of, if there's a two second shot that looks like shit, that's not what I'm there for, you know? That being said, and I mean, you know, it's been done to death. Do better. They should fix the colours. I agree. It's got that weird digital grey haze.
Starting point is 00:19:35 But a lot of that movie like doesn't look like that also. You know, it's not universally and uniformly terrible. Yeah. You know, it's just there are moments in it where it's like that looks odd. Yeah, but somebody's got to commit to like, I don't know what it is, like that digital video like grayness.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Yeah. Give it, get somebody in there. All right. Get Corridor Crew in there, James. I'll do it. Get them in there. I'll give them a call. I was just going to say,
Starting point is 00:20:02 the director of Robot Jocks was Stuart Gordon. Okay, what else is he done? He also directed Re-Animator and Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. Oh, that's... What? No, he didn't. Apparently he did. I thought that was... Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, which...
Starting point is 00:20:11 No, the original? Let's have a look. I thought that was the dude who did Captain America. Oh, Joe Johnston. Yeah, it was. Yes, it was. Then I don't know why it just says known for here. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. He was the writer. He wrote it. Oh, there you go. Okay, that's a great movie. Cool, let's get him in then. Let's get him in, there you go. Okay. That's a great movie. Cool. Let's get him in then. Let's get him in to do Voltron. Mason! He also did Fortress.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Oh. The movie Fortress. I remember the movie Fortress. I remember the bit where Christopher Lambert held his breath and floated out in space. Yeah, yeah. That was cool. And then he went into another airlock. Wait, did you do Fortress or Fortress 2? Fortress 1. Oh, no. I haven't seen that one. That's on the ground. I've only seen Fortress 2. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For some reason. THR! No, this is from. For some reason. THR. No, this is from Deadline.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Wow. Marvel are apparently developing a Nova project with Moon Knight writer Sabir Pazada. Oh. They didn't say specifically what it's about in terms of like, is it a show? Is it a movie? Richard Rider is mentioned in the article. Sure, right.
Starting point is 00:21:00 But that doesn't mean that they're not going to do the Richard Rider is dead, new son finds a helmet story and whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah whatever or a combination of all of those things the father and son flying through space blowing up planets killing destroying entire civilizations now with their laser guns what has he got to do with the nova core again what's going on which one richard rider well uh gosh good question james i love questions i mean in, in the comic books, the Nova Corps are... So in the movies, the Nova Corps are a bunch of... They're like a space force,
Starting point is 00:21:30 and they all have, like, space fighter jets and all that. We saw them in Guardians 1, right? But in the comic books, they all have, like, a cool helmet and it gives them a suit with superpowers. They're more like... Greenlanders. Greenland, more like a Captain Marvel kind of character. So I guess... I don't know, I think in a fairly recent Nova comic book,
Starting point is 00:21:52 the Nova Corps was destroyed, but all the power of the Nova Corps goes into one helmet, and then the kid gets it. So maybe that's what it is, because basically a lot of the Nova Corps were destroyed. Yeah, they're all dead or something. In the comics and also in the movies you're talking about. Yeah, a lot of them were.
Starting point is 00:22:07 They made that big net and then they exploded. They went, hold the big net, and they couldn't. Sarah Fenowitch, hold the net. He's like, oh. Hold this net. Hold it. So there you go. Nova something.
Starting point is 00:22:18 That's been in the works for a while, let's say. Do you think it'll be John C. Reilly? That'd be fun, wouldn't it? He does have a family. Yeah. Could be him. That would that'd be fun wouldn't that he doesn't have a family yeah could be him that would be great i would love that and i hope he gets absolutely shredded i hope he has to he's not happy that's right yeah yeah yeah did you see a nick i saw a nicholas cage interview this week oh my god about his it's nicholas cage goes on the internet god he's a he's an odd duck yeah he's very strange he is yeah no but not in a
Starting point is 00:22:46 sinister way no i think yeah yeah that's that's always the he's just got a yeah it was also a a um oh there was a specific thing i wanted to say but yeah go on i was gonna say there was i guess he's doing some sort of old school vampire movie is it the um image yes in the makeup and whatever and it's it's he's a Bela Lugosi looking dude. Yeah, and apparently... I saw the colour image first, but apparently it's... He's been... He's costumed and made up for black and white.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Oh, that's... Because the movie's going to be black and white. So if you take that colour and you turn it to greyscale, you go, oh, I get it. He looks exactly like a Bela Lugosi Dracula, which is why it looks... Like, that's how they did it back in the day. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Like, if you watched, I don't know, The Munsters or something or The Addams Familyams family yeah they're all in if you look at the actual sets in color they're like very colorful because that's how it played yeah on black and white tv absolutely don't we all love that anyways he was asked about uh you know they ask him secret questions but he kind of ducked the did you pay 150 million dollars for a dinosaur skull he kind of ducked how much he paid for it. Interesting. But he did say that he gave it back to wherever it was from.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Yeah, it was Mongolia. Yeah, but then they didn't give him any of the money back for it. Well. So maybe that's why he's doing all the things he's doing. But they asked him about, you know, it's been much debated whether his abs are real in Ghost Rider. Oh. And he was like they that isn't 100
Starting point is 00:24:05 me but i don't do that anymore because nobody believed me that i actually did it and i'm like oh is that even true though like i can't even because you're an actor right he's a good actor too he's an oscar winner yeah also there there was some stuff about i think he said like yes i did do a bunch of video on demand and streaming stuff yeah Yeah. And straight to Blu-ray and what have you. For his family as well, isn't it? Yeah, and to pay off his IRS tax debt and all that sort of stuff. But he's also like, I committed 100% to everything. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:24:33 He did, yeah. I completely agree. God, I hope he doesn't get cancelled. Yeah, just be this level of weird forever. Sean Levy, who of course directed recently The Adam Project. He also directed... The Adam Family. The Adam Family, he did.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Just a regular family. But he teased the Hulk in Deadpool 3. He tweeted, he said, Little did I know, and he tagged both Ryan Reynolds and Mark Ruffalo and then hashtag Deadpool. It's a picture of them together. They're lying in front of a suitcase. And on that suitcase is a sticker of the Hulk.
Starting point is 00:25:09 So I think we're going to get some Deadpool Hulk stuff, which is good because I think now that he's in the MCU, he can just hang out with whoever. That's true. You know? Yeah, why not? Friend of the movie, Mark Ruffalo. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:25:21 And the idea that they can, what i what i like his interactions with other people and i think that's the real strength of those movies yes like him and colossus is fun you know what i mean like those kind of pairings it's it's good it's and so throw him in with somebody else and yeah you know because him on his own is he no it's fine but like yeah him being annoying to other people is more interesting very true true. Yeah. And, you know, be annoying to as many personality types as you can. Like we've had, you know, Russian and stoic. Yep. And that teenage warhead lady.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Yeah, that's right. Exactly. That nice young lady. That's right. And why not Ruffalo's Hulk? That would be fun, I think. That would be fun. It's month of me-us, everybody.
Starting point is 00:26:02 We all know that. That's right. It's on all our calendars. It's on my Morbius calendar that I obviously have and will continue to have for the rest of my life. That's true, yes. It's always going to be. Oh, you have one printed for the rest of your life?
Starting point is 00:26:12 Yeah. No, it's just going to be the 2022 calendar. I'm just going to keep using it. Okay, that's terrific. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just more and more scrolls over it. Yep. Oh, my children have a test that day.
Starting point is 00:26:22 I'll just scratch that out because Morbius is coming out. So this is via comicbookmovie.com. I got a lot of Morbius talk. There's going to be some minor spoilers. Okay, yeah. But it's mostly just so we can make fun of this. That's terrific. That's how it goes.
Starting point is 00:26:38 God, I'm loving two weeks of making fun of Morbius. Me too. So according to several sources, Adrian Toombs, a.k.a. The Vulture, does not actually appear in the movie despite featuring in the trailers. The villain does reportedly show up in the film's post-credits. There are two, apparently.
Starting point is 00:26:51 But the sequences are said to be completely different to those shot for the promos. Classic Sony. Now I got back on this shit, mate. Right, exactly. That more BS they're famous for. Thank you. So initially I'm like why would you want to take out that stuff that's in the trailer to connect it to the the to connect spum to the mcu yeah and
Starting point is 00:27:15 you said you suggested it's because somebody up top like a kevin feige type character was like if this comes out and people connect it to the MCU in any way, it will damage the brand of the MCU. Like the movie's that bad. And it will, like you can maybe isolate it even within the Sony universe, you know? Maybe they don't want that either. You know what I mean? I wonder if they're going to, if they've taken out any of the references to Venom also that
Starting point is 00:27:40 we've seen in the trailer. Also, apparently, you know, there's a few scenes where, well, there's one of them where he walks past an image of, it's Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man. In the trailer, right? Yeah. That's trailer. Also, apparently, you know, there's a few scenes where, well, there's one of them where he walks past an image of, it's Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man. In the trailer, right? Yeah, that's not in it, apparently. So, like, there's none of that stuff going on. When I saw the Batman, there was a trailer for Morbius in front of that,
Starting point is 00:27:57 and it is fascinating to me that the trailer, at least the version that's playing in Australia, is still the one where they do the Venom joke at the end, where he's like, I'm Venom. Where it's like, that movie came out five to ten years ago at this point. But Venom 2, though. That's what I'm talking about, Venom 2. And it's like...
Starting point is 00:28:13 That was last year, wasn't it? No, no, but it feels like five to ten years ago. And I'm like, that is so gone from the public consciousness. Yeah. People will be like, oh, I sort of remember Venom, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, the director, Daniel Espinosa, he's just on Twitter just spoiling the movie, including the post-credits.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Is this a situation where he's like, they've taken this away, it's been like they've edited a bunch of shit out of it or put it in and reshoots and I'm just like, I'll promote it, but whatever. Right, yeah. Like he's not being openly hostile. That's not helpful, is it? No, I'll promote it, but whatever. Right, yeah. Like he's not being openly hostile. That's not helpful, is it? No, I don't think so, no. Yeah, because people are, we can talk about it.
Starting point is 00:28:51 I've got a bunch of reactions here. Okay, I don't want to know what happens in the post-credits. Oh, no, I'm not going to say that. But you know what's interesting? It's pretty easy to avoid so far on Twitter. Like unlike No Way Home spoilers where it was just all over the place. Nobody seems to. But these are apparently upsetting in terms of the post-credit scenes.
Starting point is 00:29:12 That has been the reaction. I don't know them. I mean, that's the absolute last ditch. I feel confident we have seen this before, like maybe for a DC property or something. Suicide Squad maybe? Maybe where it's just like where they've clearly gone, oh, you've got to stick around for those.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Like it's the last ditch attempt of like you've got to stick around. You've got to pay for the price of admission just for the post credits. I mean nobody seems to like the movie, but you won't get anything else in future if you don't see this. Yeah. It's these post credits. Interesting. Anyway, so actually we can play a little game, Mason,
Starting point is 00:29:45 and I guess it's kind of a callback or just a call. It's not a back. We do them all the time. We're getting a call. Well, you have to guess the review from the whatever. Okay. This is ones for Sonic 2, which is also coming out this week, in Australia at least, and the other is for Morbius.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Okay. So you get to guess, okay? Okay. It's by Neil Vagg, who says, Hashtag Morbius walks a fine tightrope between gothic vampire melodrama and comic book fantasy. Jared Leto embodies Michael Morbius with a dedication no other actor could. The pacing is brisk and it features some great visual flair.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Oh, is what you've done here is you've changed? Have you changed? No, no, I have not changed a single thing. Huh. Morbius. Correct. Nice. That is as kind as any of these are.
Starting point is 00:30:26 That's the kindest one I could find. I thought you'd done a little bit of homework and you'd changed. Like, James Marsden does a real fun job here and you've just changed it to Morbius. No, no, no. This is from Jeff Vega who says, I've seen Sonic Movie 2 and I already miss it. Sonic Movie 2. Correct, that's right. This is from Sab Astley who says, well, Morbius is about as bad as you're expecting.
Starting point is 00:30:45 A 2005 plot collides with a visually confusing CGI to create a bit of a snooze fest. But don't worry, they've saved the worst for last, featuring some of the worst post-credit scenes you've ever seen. Sony are off their rocker. That's Morbius. What I love about that is just post-credits.
Starting point is 00:31:04 How bad could they be? How bad could they be? How bad could they be? For the most part, they are an afterthought or occasionally it's like, oh, my God, it's going to be that character or whatever. 99% of it's like, oh, it's that character who's going to be in a movie in a year or whatever. But to be like, these are bad and awful. Incredible.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Because even Justice League 2, Justice League original, had Superman racing the Flash and it's like, that's fine, right? Anyways, this one's from Kevin Polowee who says, Sonic the Hedgehog 2
Starting point is 00:31:32 is the godfather part 2 of Sonic the Hedgehog movies. Oh, that's good, but that's Sonic 2. That's correct. I read also this week, apparently, Ezra Miller,
Starting point is 00:31:40 in Peacemaker, at the end, Ezra Miller had like... He deleted a bunch of stuff, didn't it? There's like several minutes of him doing Aquaman has sex with fish jokes that they cut out. Oh, really? So they're on the cutting room floor.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Bring those back. Bring those back. They're probably going on the DVD. This is from Cameron Howell. Morbius is just as disjointed, as boring as you'd expect it to be. Clearly butchered in an edit by a studio who have no clue what they want to do with it not that there's a good film trapped in there mid-credits are a joke but stick around if you like rolling your eyes oh nice that's morbius that is morbius brutal this is
Starting point is 00:32:15 from escape film club hashtag morbius provides proof sorry no matter how many famous faces or shiny visuals you squeeze in sony will always find a way to impressively misunderstand basic storytelling. Wow. Fuck. Oh, that's Morbius. Thank you. This is from Nikki Novak who says, Just saw Sonic the Hedgehog 2 and it's a love letter to video game lovers.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Had a ton of fun with it. Unlike a lot of blockbusters, the third act is bananas and the strongest of the film. Jim Carrey reigns supreme. That's Sonic 2, but the little dig at other blockbusters was about Morbius. It's from Ren Geekness who says, in Morbius Matt Smith gloriously hands it up all over the place
Starting point is 00:32:53 and Oliver Wood delivers some visual flair to the action sequences. Aside from that, the bad plotting and messy CGI, confusing editing and worse sound mix result in absolute incoherence. But the post-credits managed to outdo it all. God, that's fascinating. What is happening?
Starting point is 00:33:09 I cannot wait. Do not spoil it out there, folks, for us. Don't spoil it. Not because we don't want to be like, oh, no, we don't want to know the future. I want to be like. Yeah, I want to. I want to know. I want to feel it because I'm like.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Also, I think like we do occasionally get invited to media screenings. Well, we got one for this, but it literally is the exact same time as anywhere else. Exactly. That's what I was going to say. Exactly the same time. That's where I'm going with that. Like the truest yardstick of whether a movie studio thinks a movie
Starting point is 00:33:38 is good or not is how close to the movie's release we get the preview. I saw Batman like a week early, like a week later. I don't know if you remember me talking about that. You wouldn't shut up about it. Shut up. Anyway, that is about Morbius, unless Matt Smith is in Sonic 2 as like Charmy B or something. He might be.
Starting point is 00:33:56 This is from Nicola Austin. He says, Well, Morbius is unfortunately not great. Some really shoddy BFX and 2000s formulaic plot and definitely not as fun as Venom. Really confused at the future of Sony Spider-Verse following the post-credits scenes and editing. Matt Smith is clearly having a blast, though.
Starting point is 00:34:11 So there you go. That's sort of kind-ish. So people like Matt Smith. And to be fair, none of these are like, we fucking hate Jared Leto. Yeah, right. You know, so, and as someone who does not like Jared Leto, that's not nothing.
Starting point is 00:34:23 There you go. That's great. Did you see Matt Smith this week was also like, they asked about his character. He was like, I don't know. I couldn't understand any of his motivations. I had no backstory. I don't think it relates to the character.
Starting point is 00:34:33 I think I have the same powers as Morbius, but honestly I just used the script and I did the script. Was he not a cop? I thought he was a cop or something. I think he gets some Morbius powers also. Because you need someone to fight. Because it's Sony. You fight the same thing
Starting point is 00:34:45 as the whatever they just use the Venom blackboard I don't like Venom but if it's like Venom but it's not fun I mean what are we even doing here
Starting point is 00:34:54 wow I can't wait I cannot wait it's Morbius baby so next week we'll be we'll do Morbius we might squeeze in a bit of Sonic the Hedgehog too. Oh, that's true.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Yeah, okay. I'll see if I can say that. God damn. Those posts are great. Please nobody spoil it for me. Please. I just... Please let me see them.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I don't want to mute all the Morbius words on Twitter. Okay, let me ask you this. If they got leaked on Twitter, would you watch them without the movie? Probably not. Yeah, I probably wouldn't either. I want the build-up. I want the absolute
Starting point is 00:35:30 crushing disappointment after a very average movie, I think. Yeah, because you can't, again, you can read them. The director has mentioned what they are. But it has to be like
Starting point is 00:35:40 incoherent and universe-breaking and maybe they roll in another Spider-Man. No, because if it was that, people might like that, right? If they're like, oh my God, it's Andrew Garfield or whatever. Yeah, yeah. You know? Or whatever.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Oh my God. Oh my God. Anyway, let's find out. Yeah. Now, because it's month beer, so obviously we're returning to the topic mentioned up top where we're talking about spinoffs. That's right.
Starting point is 00:36:04 This time, spinoffs of bad things. Yeah. Obviously, we're returning to the topic mentioned up top, where we're talking about spin-offs at this time. Spin-offs of bad things. Yeah. No, spin-offs of good things, I guess, but the thing is bad. Correct, yes. Is that right? Yeah, I think so. Is that what's happening here?
Starting point is 00:36:13 Yeah. It's going to be some genial rambling is what's going to be happening here. I think so. Here's a good one to start with. I remember seeing this at the cinemas and being like, why did this happen? I mean, I also kind of get it. All right. But also why? Oh, what is this?
Starting point is 00:36:26 U.S. Marshals. Do you remember what that is? Oh, the spinoff of Don't Tell Me, The Fugitive. That's right. Yeah. So they basically take everybody in The Fugitive who's not Harrison Ford, the U.S. Marshals. Or the one-armed man.
Starting point is 00:36:37 That's right. Because he's dead. He's dead, probably. Yeah. And they chase Wesley Snipes around. Got a big fight. Because they had to. Did they do the pipe thing again?
Starting point is 00:36:44 No, they didn't do the big pipe thing. Oh, you got into the pipe. That's fascinating, isn't it? I think that's a solid idea. Yeah. Because it's like, I mean, I guess the problem is also that the team isn't the focal point of that first movie. It's not the reason why that movie works.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Like, it's partially, it's like, it's having Tommy Lee Jones, but it's the pairing of him and Harrison Ford and finding out what Harrison Ford is up to. And I remember seeing with Wesley Snipes, I can't even remember- What did Wesley think about it? That's funny, but I can't even remember. I will never stop walking into that. I know.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Because I'll never stop making it, despite the fact that I'm the only person in the world who enjoys it. But I- Robert Downey Jr.'s in that movie. Yes. I don't remember what his crime was and i think that's kind of pivotal you know what i mean oh the um wesley snipes yeah or supposed crime wasn't he i think he was uh wasn't he uh i think he was like a special forces soldier
Starting point is 00:37:37 maybe he'd seen a crime a bad crime you know oh you should never see a crime yeah he saw a big big bad crime i think interesting it james j should never see a crime. Yeah, he saw a big bad crime, I think. Interesting. Have you seen it? Yeah, I have. They'd never make, yeah, because the, look, spoilers for this movie that came out in probably 1998 or whatever it was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:57 You think Wesley Snipes is the bad guy because he's the fugitive. Yes. Two. But it turns out it's Robert Downey Jr., I think. I think he's the bad guy. Oh, is it? Yeah. I don't remember that at all. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Oh, that's terrific. Yeah. But, okay, they pursue a fugitive, Mark Sheridan, played by Wesley Snipes, who attempts to escape government officials following an international conspiracy scandal. There you go. Here's the thing about it, though. James, you can never make it these days. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:38:18 I'll tell you why. Well, not in this form, because they'd have to bring Harrison Ford back. Oh, definitely. There's no way they would make a sequel to a movie like this and not bring back the original fugitive. They'd be like, boy, this guy's an expert in doctoring. We really need a doctor. Shaving his beard and dyeing his hair.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Yeah, we need, I mean, there's only one guy we can turn to. And then it's Harrison Ford. Yeah, Richard Kimball. You'd need a scene where they need to go to his office or something. And he's like, you've got a lot of nerve coming out here. I jumped out of that pipe. That sucked. That's right.
Starting point is 00:38:53 I've still got water up my nose from it. You're lucky we have great chemistry together, Tommy Lee Jones, because otherwise you'd be out in your ear. They keep trying to remake The Fugitive, though, right? It keeps coming back. Is there a TV series? Yeah, there was. And then, I don't know, there's other things. There's also. I mean,ugitive, though, right? It keeps coming back. Is there a TV series? Yeah, there was. And then, I don't know, there's other things.
Starting point is 00:39:06 There's also. I mean, it started, obviously, as a TV show. They're actually doing Three Equalizer, the third Equalizer, with Denzel Washington. But there's already a, there's an Equalizer TV series. Yep, yep, yep. Happening right now. Yep, yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:39:20 With somebody, a lady. Yeah. Lady Equalizer. Queen Latifah, I want to say. There's Equalizer. There's Equalizer. They're very good. I just put say. There's Equalizer. There's Equalizer. They're very good. I just put planes because I feel like it's in.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I don't know it. She Equalizer. Thank you. You're very welcome. Planes. I didn't say it, but that's clearly like you're tricking kids. Oh, planes, the spinoff to cars, which is not a Pixar movie. I think it's Disney, but it's not related,
Starting point is 00:39:44 and it's not in the Cars-averse. Okay, right. Because everything's a car, not a Pixar movie. Well, no, I think it's Disney, but it's not related. And it's not in the Cars-iverse. Okay, right. Because everything's a car, not a plane. Yes. Doesn't make any sense. Right. Even the bugs are cars in that universe. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:53 How does it work? I don't know. I don't know how many Cars movies I've seen, if in fact I've seen any of them. The last one's about rehab. So everything's a car. There's no like, is there a helicopter guy? Oh, that's a great question. Isn't it though?
Starting point is 00:40:03 I don't know. It's not about that, though. No. It's about cars. We talked about this a little bit last week, though. Go on. I mean, X-Men Wolverine Origins. I never even know what it's called.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Like, what order are these words supposed to be in? James, it's been drilled into my brain. It's X-Men Origins colon Wolverine. Okay, very good. Maybe there's no colon. If that character and that, not only that, the character and obviously the actor Hugh Jackman were not beloved, that would have stopped that completely, that movie.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Though it did make a fair bit of money. But yeah, just like atrocious, like boring and weird and strange cameos and it looked like shit. And they steadily got better, those red movies. And then took a dive. Then took a, in Logan. Oh no, I mean, you know, the other ones. Yeah, he's not in any of those ones really.
Starting point is 00:40:53 He's sort of in, I want to say Apocalypse. No one remembers. No one remembers and it's not important, but yeah, there you go. What have you got in your list, Mason? Gosh, what do I have? There better be something absolutely outstanding or I'm going to spit chips wow james i just want to talk about gary seven that's all i want to talk okay let's talk about gary seven is that the gary seven wikipedia no i don't have anything here i'm just gonna do i'm just gonna james i'm just gonna freeze just the thing that i'm writing
Starting point is 00:41:18 what unrelated yes fucking hell man what's gary seven in that right during the middle of the Fucking hell, man. What's Gary Seven? Right during the middle of the production of the original series of Star Trek. Oh, my God. I've got a whole list. Gene Roddenberry had an idea for a TV series called Assignment Earth. And the original premise, and they came up with a spec script for it. So they wrote a script for a pilot episode. And the premise was there was a man named Gary Seven.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Yes. And he was sent back. In the original pilot was there was a man named Gary Seven. Yes. And he was sent back. In the original pilot, he was a man from the future, and he gets sent back to what is the present day United States, so the 60s. Which always happens. They're doing it at Picard at the moment. They're like, we're in the year 2024. That's right.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Are you? The cars are slightly blockier, and everybody's wearing a vest. Look out. Everybody's wearing a taupe vest. But anyway, he goes back to the 60s, and the idea is he's wearing a taupe vest um but anyway they go he goes back to the 60s and the idea is he's he's doing he's like a spot a future spy and he's doing stuff to prevent you know a disaster happening that's interesting that is interesting so they went uh roddenberry went to i think cbs the uh channel that star trek was on and was like what do you think about that and
Starting point is 00:42:21 they're like no so they so he was like, okay, let's retool this. So in the TV episode, he's not from the future. He's from present day, like 1960s timeline, but he's from an alien planet. Okay. And the Enterprise has been sent back in time to the 60s. But because they're out in deep space, they can't visit Earth. So they have to visit like something that's sort of like Earth with Gary Seven.
Starting point is 00:42:47 No, no, they do go to Earth. They go to Earth in the 60s. Okay. And Gary Seven has been beamed from an alien planet to present-day 1960s Earth. They have to rescue him or something? Yeah, they have to team up. The United States government is launching this satellite missile launch platform
Starting point is 00:43:04 or something like that, and they've got to stop it because otherwise the world's going to end. So, and then, and this all happens. And then like the, the episode was produced and released and they were like, Roddenberry's like, what do you think about this now?
Starting point is 00:43:17 And they're like, still no, absolutely not. No, no. What I love about the episode though, if you've seen it in two things, pre in previous episodes, going back in time was like an ordeal.
Starting point is 00:43:29 It's a huge. It was a huge thing. Sometimes it is. Sometimes it is. But in this one, Starfleet just goes to the Enterprise and goes, hey, we heard something weird happen in the 60s. You want to go back in time to the 60s? And they're like, all right.
Starting point is 00:43:40 So the episode just starts. They're just back in the 60s. Amazing. And I just love that. Again, just the idea of like, they're just back in the 60s. Amazing. And I just love that, again, it's just the idea of like, and just go to regular wardrobe. Just go to, you don't need it. But the other thing that I love about it is at the end,
Starting point is 00:43:54 Gary Seven is chatting to the- Does he come with them? No. He doesn't join the crew. No, he doesn't join the crew. Not even for an episode or two? No, he doesn't join them for an episode or two, but basically there he's talking to Kirk and Spock,
Starting point is 00:44:04 and they're like, Kirk and Spock are like, Gary Seven, let me tell you, he doesn't join it for an episode or two but basically there he's talking to Kirk and Spock and they're like, Kirk and Spock are like, Gary Seven, let me tell you, we can't tell you, we can't reveal too much but we've looked at your, we've looked at history,
Starting point is 00:44:13 all of history and let me tell you, you're in for some exciting adventures. Let me tell you that. You're going to have some real absolute zingers of adventures out there.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Has he turned up in anything else like in reboots? No, he's turned up in some comic books, I think. Okay, that makes sense. And I think there was maybe like IDW Comics or something like that did an Assignment Earth comic book with like four issues or whatever.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Wow, wonderful. Yeah, yeah. Let's talk about Star Trek because there's so many. So there was going to be – these are just some 60s ones. Okay, I'm ready. There was Hope Ship, which is going to be a space hospital ship. Okay, that's great. So, you know, I guess kind of like a general practice. I don't remember Hope Ship, but I'm ready. There was a Hope Ship, which is going to be a space hospital ship. Okay, that's great. So, you know, I guess kind of like a general practice.
Starting point is 00:44:46 I don't remember Hope Ship, but I'm sure. Some of these are just ideas and not actual. Oh, I see, because they were, I mean, you know, there was the original series. Also, I don't know which ones. Okay, there was definitely plenty of original series episodes where, like, Kirk, the Enterprise goes to, like, a distant space station. He's like, oh, my ex-girlfriend's here. Good. You're good, yeah. There was a Harry space station. He's like, oh, my ex-girlfriend's here. Good.
Starting point is 00:45:05 You're good, yeah. There was a Harry Mudd. They wanted to do some Harry Mudd stuff, who recently came back for Discovery. Yeah, as Dwight from The Office. Yeah, that was really fun. There was going to be a Spock and the Vulcans something. Probably a band, a family band.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Probably, yeah. Like the Partridge family. Yes. Spock and the Vulcans. Yeah, there was one. This is fairly famous, and it ended up becoming what the movies were. Before Star Wars, there was Star Trek Phase 2.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Yes. So you probably know a lot about this, but basically their plan was to relaunch the franchise with all of the crew who were still willing to do it. Yeah. New sets, new ships, new designs, more updated special effects because the fans of Star Trek never went away. It was always airing. There was that animated show which had everybody in it also, I think.
Starting point is 00:45:53 They were like the pioneers of conventions and people dressing up. Yeah, absolutely, yeah. You know? But then when Star Wars hit big, I think that was the kind of thing where they went, huh. But also I think a bunch of that stuff was also worked into Discovery, like a lot of the concepts. I think so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I couldn't tell you specifically what. I mean, yeah, there's been plenty of, I think, you know, discarded Star Trek concepts that have just been put into new stuff. But, yeah, like, God, Star Trek, the motion picture's not very good. I agree. And their weird white uniforms, I hate it all. I haven't. Actually, have I seen it?
Starting point is 00:46:24 I don't remember. You have not seen it? I don't remember. You have not seen it, I don't think. It's so slow. But isn't that good, though? Don't people like the idea of that? Like that it's not just pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow. No. Because Star Trek II came out and there was a lot of pow, pow, pow in that
Starting point is 00:46:35 and people liked it. Yeah, okay. And also Star Trek II pioneered their luxurious red flannel uniforms with a turtleneck. Oh, my God. Absolutely. The best uniform, in my opinion. Do you think so?
Starting point is 00:46:49 No. We were mentioning Discovery, but Section 31 was getting a spin-off until very recently with Michelle Yeoh. They've had a lot of spin-off novels and stuff like that, which is like the... There's a bunch of comics as well. Yeah, and I think probably video games as well, like Starfleet Special Forces, like Black Ops Yeah, and I think probably video games as well,
Starting point is 00:47:07 like Starfleet Special Forces, like Black Ops. Yes, absolutely. I think it's fun. There was something called Starfleet Academy, which is going to be a TNG spin-off where it was a ship and it was mostly run by Academy students. Okay. So they're just like, oh, we don't know what we're doing. Oh, the ship's falling into the sun again.
Starting point is 00:47:20 And I'm just going to name a bunch of things here. So there was going to be a Worf spin-off. There was going to be a Riker spin-off. There was going to be a Riker spin-off. A spin-off. A Worf spin-off. Thank you, Riker. I think, who played Riker again? Ah, you know that guy? That guy. He's always sitting in a chair backwards. Yes, he's always
Starting point is 00:47:35 playing the trombone or something. Telling you a secret. His name is... This is the thing that happens to us once an episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's make it multiple times an episode. What? Don't tell me. Don't. Could we think about who his doppelganger is
Starting point is 00:47:48 when he gets... Tom Riker. Yes. I think. So does that help? No. It's Jonathan Frakes. Jonathan Frakes.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Frakes-y. I didn't look it up. All I could think of was... I looked it up. You looked it up. How did you know? All I could think of was... When I was typing
Starting point is 00:48:02 and looking at the screen? Yes. How did you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I thought maybe you were doing something else. Like me. You had a notes app open. What are you looking at- When I was typing and looking at the screen, how did you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I thought maybe you were doing something else. Like me, you had a note tap open. What are you looking at there?
Starting point is 00:48:08 No, I'm looking at something else. Yeah, but what is it? I'm curious. I was just thinking of Ripley's Believe It or Not. You were like, what's his real name? And I'm like, Ripley? Ripley. Ripley's.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Dean Cain? Did he do Ripley's Believe It or Not? Yeah. So there was going to be an animated, there was a talk of an animated Kirk Picard series in the early 90s oh generation style of the back of generations
Starting point is 00:48:28 I guess Picard was just dragging Kirk's corpse around exactly time lines there was going to be a Calvin
Starting point is 00:48:36 animated series you know set in the Calvin timeline there was going to be a Ferengi show an animated show
Starting point is 00:48:42 there was going to be a Captain Sulu animated adventures also at one point so they were just like everything anyway did you ever watch girl american psycho with miller kunis no so that started off as like a different movie serial killer and she's killing some i'm saying yeah killing various people then they went, we can actually market this absolute piece of crap. Why, shoo. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship
Starting point is 00:49:12 between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Will you rise with the sun to help change mental health care forever? Join the Sunrise Challenge to raise funds for CAMH, the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health, to support life-saving progress in mental health care. From May 27th to 31st, people across Canada will rise together and show those living with mental illness and addiction
Starting point is 00:49:48 that they're not alone. Help CAMH build a future where no one is left behind. So, who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. ...corning in that she was that she was the cousin
Starting point is 00:50:07 or was the cousin or something like that of Patrick Bateman and I think he's you might see the back of his head or you get a phone call or something in it
Starting point is 00:50:14 they basically just tacked on this that's great and called it American Psycho 2 and everyone hates it everyone who's in it everyone around it
Starting point is 00:50:22 no good and no fun that movie I enjoy I don't know if it's I don't know if it's good American Psycho around it, no good and no fun. That movie I enjoy. I don't know if it's good. Megan Psycho. But it is very entertaining. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Like the bit where he's like the business cards and then you go online and somebody swapped the business cards for Pokemon cards or whatever. That's where we're at. And you're like, that's fun, isn't it? What about, there was an episode, an infamous episode of Supernatural called Bloodlines. Oh, how long did that go?
Starting point is 00:50:43 That show? 12 years? Oh, Supernatural. Is it. Oh, how long did that go? That show? Seven, 12 years? Oh, Supernatural. Is it still going? A million shows. 17 years, something like that. I think it started in 2005 and it maybe ended last year. The guy who played Gabriel, I think, has been cast in a show.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Yeah, he's hardly done. There we go, yes, in that Gotham. Bad Girl, I want to say. Gotham Knights. Gotham Knights, there we go. So that show's going to go. It went from want to say. Gotham Knights. Gotham Knights, there we go. So that show's going to go first. It went from 2005 to 2020. Also, there's going to be another animated prequel spin-off thing
Starting point is 00:51:10 happening for that, apparently. Anyways, Bloodlines was in one of the latest seasons. I think it was like season nine, where you meet this particular group, and it's like a mafia family, but they're also like monsters. So the idea was was i guess it was sopranos mates oh sure dracula sopranos meets the monster mash and people hate it's interesting how many seasons did you get through of supernatural i got to like nine i reckon okay
Starting point is 00:51:35 i got pretty far let me ask you this james yeah because i watched one episode i think sure um one to five are good and then it's kind of their dad yeah he's dead originally but then it turns out he's not dead yeah something like that and how many seasons is he in, and then it's kind of... Their dad, he's dead originally, but then it turns out he's not dead? Yeah, something like that. And how many seasons is he in at most? Because it's Jeffrey Dean Morgan, so he gets famous. Yes, that's right. So he doesn't do a lot of... I don't know whether he comes back for later seasons or not,
Starting point is 00:51:56 but he drops off probably around season four or five. So he wasn't just a main character for 15 years after dying? No, but maybe he did come back. I couldn't honestly tell you. But yeah, he got famous from various other things and moved on. But if we're talking about pilots that just were wedged into regular series, Mason. Yes. Season 9 of The Office.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Oh, they went to a farm, right? They went to a farm. Yeah. Dwight's farm. Dwight's family. It had Thomas Middleditch was his brother. And I can't remember who else was in it. But that was a filmed pilot, which they then chopped up into a regular episode of The Office.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Oh, I see, right. And it didn't, I don't know whether it didn't test well or the studio didn't like it or whatever. It was probably both. So it's just this very odd. I remember it being very odd. Like very specifically cast episode. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:42 It's like these are actual comedic people. These aren't people who just and they mostly stand there right they don't do that much well i mean i guess i guess at a certain point the american office it would be a bit like the simpsons in this in if you were an actor you might be like i'd love to be on the office just for one scene or one episode yeah totally yeah that's interesting because i would have i I sort of envisaged that episode as they made a regular episode of The Office to see if people liked those characters,
Starting point is 00:53:11 then they would spin it off. Which would probably be the way to... Yeah, but you're saying they were like, let's just assume this is going to do well and do a pilot. They cast it all well enough. Wow. Is this a prequel or a spin-off, Mason? Go on.
Starting point is 00:53:25 I think it's probably both but Dumb and Dumber when Harry met Lloyd when they recast Harry and Lloyd from Dumb and Dumber. No, that's a I feel that's a prequel.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Alright, let's skip that one. Let's skip over that. If they name any supporting character in Dumb and Dumber if they spun one of those off of their own. I've never seen Dumb and Dumber.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Oh. Yeah. And that's you know send your tweets but I haven't and I won't. I won't say it because I bet it's one of those off. I've never seen Dumb and Dumber. Oh. Yeah. And that's, you know, send your tweets, but I haven't, and I won't. Okay. I won't see it because I bet it's one of those things that's actually not that funny. Like now, like if you just watched it now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Or maybe it's amazing. You know what I'm regretting? What's that? And this is an aside. I'm regretting not really getting into Riverdale because apparently it's just- Oh, it's gone bananas, mate. It's gone absolutely bananas again recently, apparently. I was in Riverdale for like a couple of seasons.
Starting point is 00:54:07 You were in it? Yeah, I was in it. It was never not entertaining. There was always something going on. This is a tweet. This came out earlier today. Riverdale update. This is on Twitter from iPatchWolf.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Archie and Betty survive a multi-universe merging bomb blast by hiding under a table. Veronica hires an assassin to kill her dad. Cheryl is possessed by an evil witch. Betty encounters the show's 15th serial killer. Is that real? Yes. He says, these are real. These are always real. Apparently this is one episode as well.
Starting point is 00:54:37 This isn't like the entire season. Wonderful. Yeah. Hey, man, just keep people watching. If it's entertaining, good. Yeah. Look, there are people that complain about that show and maybe i would complain about it if i watched it but i don't
Starting point is 00:54:50 yeah so i'm loving the idea like back in when i was a kid i would read archie comics and they they were all like hanging out in riverdale high or whatever but they all had like solo books where weird stuff would happen yeah like jughead was in the time police oh yes and like dilton had a it was the nerd character he had like a secret lab and had supernatural adventures or whatever okay so they were never they were never canonical but they were never explicitly not canonical either so my my because it didn't matter at the time no but as a kid i'm always like i like the idea that they all had like a weird secret gig on the weekend and they were all sworn to secrecy with you like they were all like one had a weird secret gig on the weekend. They were all sworn to secrecy. They were all like, one of them's a superhero over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:55:29 And they're like, what did you do on the weekend? And they're like, nothing. That is fine. Absolutely nothing. I'm glad all the insane stuff has gone into the show. A show I do not watch. Here's something that you did watch and you love. Go on.
Starting point is 00:55:39 People have been asking us to do this for Caravan and Garmage for years. Yes. Supergirl. Oh, the movie. The movie is a... I mean, I know all the Arrowverse spins off and whatever. There's probably some cancelled pilots in that, probably. I don't know. Oh, there definitely is.
Starting point is 00:55:50 There's a number of Suicide Squad episodes. And it's Diggle. You know Diggle. Was it killed by the movie? That's a great question. I mean, I'm always under the impression that. The testing ground thing, right? The CW stuff is a testing ground for the movies to see what works.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Because they got Michael Jai White as Bronze Tiger. That's true. And so on and so forth. Like you were saying, why you get a movie guy to do a couple of episodes of this thing? And it's like, well, yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. But Supergirl is, so she turns up to Earth as the cousin of Superman.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Of James, James. Let me tell you. Let me tell you. Okay. Because I've brought up my James, let me tell you. Okay. Because I've brought up my special list here. Okay. They didn't spin it off because the CW was already going to spin off The Flash. So they're like, well, that's enough.
Starting point is 00:56:37 That was pre-The Flash. This was pre-The Flash. So this was season two. It was an Arrow episode. No, I do remember that episode. I was still on board then. And there was like Harley Quinn's voice as well. Yeah. And then Suicide Squad. I do remember that episode. I was still on board then. And there was like Harley Quinn's voice as well.
Starting point is 00:56:47 And then Suicide Squad. So apparently Warner Brothers was like, we can't have two versions of these characters as they aren't well known. But I'm like, who cares? Do it. I mean, now we do kind of have two versions of a lot of the Suicide Squad characters. The Flash from the movie met the Flash from the TV show and whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:06 I mean, people get it now. Yeah, like now we have two versions of a lot of the Suicide Squad characters. We have Suicide Squad and the Suicide Squad and, like, you know, Flag is barely the same guy. How quickly, though, are you going to burn out on this multiverse stuff? And will it be because of Morbius? It won't be because of Morbius because I'll immediately forget what happens in Morbius as soon as the movie ends
Starting point is 00:57:28 unless those post-credits are pretty... Yeah, that's interesting. No, I will forget about Morbius as soon as we finish the podcast. Okay, good. That is my... Goal. That is my goal.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Yeah. That is my vow. Yes. Anyway, so Supergirl has one returning cast member and it's Jimmy Olsen. Yeah, it came out after three but before four i want to say and the idea was that yeah it was going to be a whole franchise and whatever but it's really shoddily made clearly on a budget yeah she fights like a witch and a dragon at the end
Starting point is 00:57:55 yeah right it's just nonsense it's just and it's and it's also it's painful because it's one of those examples the same as catwoman and electro who also happen to be spin-off movies with with female leads where they're like oh people you know they mustn't like these but it's one of those examples, the same as Catwoman in a lecture, who also happened to be spin-off movies with female leads, where they're like, oh, people, you know, they mustn't like these. But it's like, no, that's crap. You've made a terrible thing. Of course people don't like it. And you made... So you were saying it was before 4.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm going to find out right now. Yeah, 1994, so yeah. Yeah, so they would have... So what basically people would have seen was three Superman movies of declining quality. Yes, exactly. Including the third one, which is barely about Superman at all. And then a bad Supergirl.
Starting point is 00:58:32 People are already tired of the concept. Yeah, that's right. And then they're like, here's a bad version, but it's girl Superman. Yeah. That's not a failure of Supergirl. That's a failure of... I mean, the movie was bad also. Also, and it cost $35 million and it made $14.3 million.
Starting point is 00:58:48 So that's never good. Did you ever see The Next Karate Kid? I saw that on a few lists. With that lady. Hilary Swank. I thought it was fine, like, on all honesty. I haven't seen it since the 90s, but it brings back, you know, the original Mr. Miyagi.
Starting point is 00:59:02 He's got a new student. And there is, like, an Almanavar, which, you know, Daniel LaRusso was in this or whatever. Is that what they say? Yeah, that's what everybody says to each other all the time. But the idea of like having Hilary Swank in the lead role, and that was before she was like proper famous. Yes, that's true.
Starting point is 00:59:17 It's good casting, you know. And look, again, I don't think it's great, but what an opportunity to also bring her back for Cobra Kai. Have they? I don't know. Oh, that was my question. Yeah, I don't know whether she... for Cobra Kai. Have they? No. That was my question. And I said it. I expressed my question.
Starting point is 00:59:29 I don't know whether she would do it. In a healthy manner. That was very respectful. Hey, idiot. Is she back for Cobra Kai? That stupid show you watch because you're stupid. I do watch that show and it is stupid but it's fun. Yeah, because they recently did Karate Kid 3
Starting point is 00:59:44 and they do it with a ponytail and whatever. And Kreese goes to get it's fun. Yeah, because they recently did Karate Kid 3 and the dude with the ponytail and whatever. And Kreese goes to get him and he's like, we've got to take down Daniel LaRusso. And he's like, what were we even doing then? I was harassing a kid. I was doing a lot of coke. Like, I'm not that person anymore. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:58 Yeah, right. Which basically explains Karate Kid 3, why this grown man is harassing Daniel LaRusso. But I don't know if Hilary Swank would actually do it. But, I mean, they got Elizabeth Shoe back, so maybe they'd do it. Yeah. Here's a fun one, Mason. I'm ready.
Starting point is 01:00:12 You're going to love it. Okay. There's a few Brady Bunch spin-offs that they tried. There was one in particular called Kelly's Kids. That was about the Brady's neighbor, Ken, who accidentally adopted more children than he meant to. He accidentally adopted. Okay. Takes too many boxes. He accidentally adopted. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Takes too many boxes. Sure, yeah. How many kids do you want? Oh, 15. Oh, I know. I meant one, but I said 15. I was thinking about how many eggs I wanted to buy at the supermarket. That's right.
Starting point is 01:00:35 15. 15. I don't like that. No, I bought 12. This guy got what was coming to him. No, I bought 12 and I buy six and then I open one of them and I throw some away on the street. He should be in jail.
Starting point is 01:00:48 I know, but instead he's got too many kids. A nightmare. So there you go, that's fun. Let me ask you this, James. Yeah. What about that episode of Stranger Things that is just Eleven goes to the other city and she's like,
Starting point is 01:01:00 well, these kids are just like me and they're very interesting. They've got superpowers. They've got different haircuts. And they're interesting. That was confirmed, well, these kids are just like me and they're very interesting. They've got superpowers and they're so interesting. And they're interesting. That was confirmed, right, to be a definite attempt at something else, right? Yes, I think so, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:12 It's interesting that they haven't tried to do more of that. Is it because it didn't work? Yeah, and it's also, I was about to say this before, but you know like Family Guy has like had the Cleveland show and American Dad is probably linked. I don't know. I don't watch any of that. But how has there never been a simpsons spinoff oh yeah good question all there has well i mean future is yeah i mean it's it's kind of i think it's probably just because mac reigning got very busy yeah but like if you do like in this and also disenchantment is set
Starting point is 01:01:41 in the same universe as well because there's a time traveling thingvelling thing in it. Well, then I say close enough. Okay, fine, close enough. Have you seen those new Stranger Things kids' haircuts? I had a look. Yeah. They're 80s haircuts. That's why their haircuts are so bad because it's just the 80s and not everybody had like a Farrah Fawcett haircut.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Well, that is very true. Not everybody in the 80s was Steve with his beautiful hair. That's true. Everybody's had hair that sucked. Now, last week we also talked about Happy Days. Yeah, Mork and Mindy. And that did well, but I've got a bad one for you here. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:11 This one's called Chachi Sells His Soul. What? I know there was Joanie Loves Chachi. Yeah, there's that. No, this is different. This is maybe Bloody Getting Married is Bloody Selling His Soul. Oh, yeah. I don't mind saying I hate my wife.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Nice. I'm one of those guys. I don't know if't mind saying I hate my wife. I'm one of those guys. I don't know if I've told you this before but I'm one of those guys who tells all his friends that he hates his wife.
Starting point is 01:02:30 That's me you know. Anyways it's a backdoor pilot. The spin off actually aired before the Happy Days episode that introduced the guardian angel named
Starting point is 01:02:39 Random. Yes another guardian angel concept. However watching Chachi sells his soul in which indeed Chachi, sorry, so Chachi strikes a Faustian deal with the devil's nephew. Okay, that's fine.
Starting point is 01:02:52 So not even the devil. They couldn't even get the real devil. Wow. I guess would that be too hot for television if you got the actual devil? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, that'd be too hot for television. Yeah. This is one I like.
Starting point is 01:03:03 I don't think I ever watch this show. I just love the idea of this. Charles in Charge had three episodes in the final season which were failed attempts at a pilot. Three episodes. Three attempts.
Starting point is 01:03:14 In each, a character would visit somewhere where there would be a character that looked suspiciously like one of the regular cast members. So Ellen Travolta who played Charles' mother
Starting point is 01:03:23 had an identical twin sister who ran a car wash in New York. What? Willie Ames' character, Buddy, had an identical cousin. I'm sorry, but they were the same actors, right? Yes. Willie Ames' character, Buddy, had an identical cousin working in a hotel in Hawaii. Nicole Eggert's character had an identical cousin
Starting point is 01:03:38 living in New Mexico. But what I love about that is also like, we're going to do a spin-off and get this. It's going to be set in a car wash. Why not yeah what was that danny devito one taxi or whatever yeah that was set in a car wash but i mean that yes but james this also alan travolta is john travolta's sister though i just googled it yeah i didn't know that but um that also led to like we've just speaking of the simpsons like the simpsons was so successful one one, because it was the novelty of the animation, but also because it broke out of the absolute doldrums
Starting point is 01:04:10 that sitcoms were in at the time, which is, again, just people in a car wash. Apparently. It was so dull. That is so bizarre. So it's weird that they – was Chachi dying? Charles. Yeah, sorry.
Starting point is 01:04:25 What are we talking about? Are we talking about Chachi or are we did he not? Charles. Yeah, sorry. What are we talking about? Are we talking about Chachi or are we talking about Charles? Charles. So the show was ending. Yes. But they planned to continue a spin-off with the same actors in a different location. In different roles, yes. With Charles or was he Scott Baio's?
Starting point is 01:04:37 No, I think he was going to be gone. He was going to do different things. They were just like, what if his aunt ran a car wash? They were just like, what if his aunt ran a car wash? I guess, you know, if this is your meal ticket, you know, and you're like third or fourth billed on this show and it's going to be cancelled because Scott Baio doesn't want to do that anymore. And they were like, what if? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:56 What if you ran a car wash? And I think also part of you would be like, yeah, I've got the charisma to pull this off. I mean, I'm doing well on this show, aren't I? This is a popular show and I'm John Travolta's sister or whatever. That's right, yeah. Well, speaking of spinoff television shows. I mean, it's either that
Starting point is 01:05:07 or wait for a cameo in From Paris With Love in 20 years. Is that true? No, I don't think so. No, no. I'm thinking of John Travolta. Of course. So there was three MASH spinoffs.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Yes. I know I talked about this last week. After MASH. Nobody cares about this. I'm sorry. The Radar Show. Yeah, so after MASH was the show where it was The Colonel where it had it was
Starting point is 01:05:25 it was The Colonel Okay It was Clinger and it was Father Mulcahy and they work in a veterans hospital
Starting point is 01:05:32 in the state on stateside Okay Went for a couple of seasons When is this set? This would be set Aftermash
Starting point is 01:05:37 Just after So the early 60s? Yes Okay So it's set immediately after the final movie and the final movie like famously the final movie, like famously, is like the highest rated thing that's ever been on television.
Starting point is 01:05:49 That's true. Anyway, this got obliterated, destroyed. The idea was to keep reintroducing old characters. Well, it's like, oh, Hawkeye's going to visit or whatever, but it never got to that. But one of the things that really crushed it was the A-team. There was also Trapper MD. Now, trapper famously
Starting point is 01:06:05 left the show after season three because hawkeye had a best friend who was trapper but then he left and he was replaced by another best friend who was more or less the same no no they had curly hair they were very different they asked them differently yes and i'm a big mash fan i will not have such mash slander well i'm a bloody big mash fan go on like a mash yeah like a mashed potato yeah okay cool bangers and mash yes yes very good anyway trapper md the spin-off show didn't star the actor he left the show because he was on he was of the understanding that was equal built right and to alan alda yeah it felt like he kept like a lot of the stuff kept going to alan alda or whatever but then in hindsight uh he's been like yeah I probably shouldn't
Starting point is 01:06:45 have done that I probably shouldn't hang around I should have been in the most highly rated series finale ever because it went for like 11 seasons
Starting point is 01:06:52 or whatever anyway the show though is more of a spin off of the movie and it doesn't star that actor so I think it was more of like a legal thing
Starting point is 01:07:00 oh I see right right where they went okay we can do this thing so this is a character we own so we're going to use. Okay, right. And the last one they did was Walter, which was,
Starting point is 01:07:08 there's a character called Radar whose real name is Walter. You know this. I know who Radar is. I know, but he ended up leaving the show like a couple of seasons before the end. Okay. I remember the reason why he left was because, he was famous for in the show where he'd know when the helicopters of wounded were coming in.
Starting point is 01:07:23 He could hear them or sense them before they arrived. Because he had a radar sense. Because he had a plate in his head. I don't know if that's the reason why. He had a dinner plate in his head. Yeah. Just sticking out like a radar dish. But apparently he, in real life, a chopper flew over his house and he did that look that he does.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Okay. Like instinctively. Oh, I see. Right. And he's like, I've done this for too long. Right. So he quit. Okay. And Clinger took. Oh, I see, right. And he's like, I've done this for too long. Right, okay. So he quit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Clinger took over his role, essentially. Anyways, he obviously liked the character, so they made one episode of a show called Walter. Okay. Which is the same font as MASH, and it's even got the dots in between. Little stars, okay, yeah. And where he basically becomes a police officer.
Starting point is 01:07:59 All right, cool. So there you go. Okay. A tiny little police officer. That's fun. So that's fun. You know what's wild? Friends never had any spinoffs. It did, Mason. Did it? It's Joey. Oh, yeah. A tiny little police officer. That's fun. So that's fun. You know what's wild? Friends never had any spinoffs.
Starting point is 01:08:05 It did, Mason. Did it? Joey. Oh, yeah. It's on my list. Let's talk about it. I want to talk about Joey. So Friends, obviously.
Starting point is 01:08:13 I was like, man, none of Gunther never got a spinoff. And he died. Yeah, yeah. I mean, Phoebe's sister was in Mad About You, but that doesn't count because that came first, I think. And that's all connected and whatever, whatever, whatever. But Joey, let's talk about Joey. Okay, so basically what happened was,
Starting point is 01:08:29 I'll read you the overview. The series centers, this started in 2004, I want to say. Let me check. God, I remember 2004. It started in 2004, September 2004, yeah. So the series centers on Joey Tribbiani, who was struck out. Struck by lightning.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Yeah, that's right. Struck out on his own. And he got radar powers. And he moved to Hollywood, hoping to truly make it as an actor. After reuniting with his high-strung sister Gina, a strong and sexy hairdresser, Joey moves in with his genius 20-year-old nephew, graduate student Michael, who is a rocket scientist. He begins a tentative romance with a superintendent uh alexis garnett and becomes
Starting point is 01:09:05 close friends with fellow aspiring actor zach miller so yeah it's just matt leblanc and his sister is played by drea di matteo who is in the sopranos sopranos so yeah which was also running at the same time but sopranos like they only do 10 episodes a year and they some years they didn't make them for whatever reason. Do you know what I mean? It was 10 or 12 or something. I can't remember. They vary from season to season.
Starting point is 01:09:29 So, yeah, this went for two seasons. It also had Peter Stormare. That's not how you pronounce it. The devil from Constantine. Yeah, as the boss in the salon. And I've seen a few episodes of it, and it's just whatever. You know what I mean? I think of it in the way of, like, the Michael Richards show
Starting point is 01:09:49 and, you know, that George Costanza show that's not George Costanza, but it's really just George Costanza. You know what I mean? So it was just like, who from this series still wants to make some money from this and keep this going? And Matt LeBlanc was like, yeah, fuck it, I'll do it or whatever. That's going to be a few years before I'm a host of Top Gear or something. Or I'm in that British show that was good.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Remember that one episode? Yeah, I never saw it, but yes, I've heard good things. The last season of Highlander, the series, it was basically just Duncan McLeod, who's the main guy, just meeting a bunch of female. Not Connor McLeod? No, but he's in the first episode. Thank God. But the last season, there was like four episodes in a row
Starting point is 01:10:27 that were just like, oh, my God, it's another female immortal from my past. Are you interesting and charismatic? Are you? Are you, though? See which one the audience likes. And eventually what they did. Why have you seen so much Highlander? I've seen every season of Highlander, I think.
Starting point is 01:10:46 But what the, it was, so one of them was spun off into a series called Highlander the Raven. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she was. Wait, was that Raven the one that Ben put the clip of in the Caravan of Garbage recently? Don't know. Okay. Let me check. Okay, please do.
Starting point is 01:11:02 But her character on the show wasn't called the raven it was just a different what they did is they were like we like the idea of a character we like the idea of the name highlander the raven yeah but we don't like but we don't like the actor who was the raven so we'll just put we'll just take another one of the of the we'll take a different woman we'll put her in highlander the raven and we'll make up a thing in the title sequence about how she's the Raven why have you said so much
Starting point is 01:11:28 Highlander I don't know I love Highlander you know what I loved how French it was the series was very French
Starting point is 01:11:35 not the first couple of seasons but in the later seasons it got funded by the French so was it called Raven or Highlander
Starting point is 01:11:40 the Raven it was called Highlander the Raven there was a show called Raven about an ancient immortal Scottish warlord
Starting point is 01:11:45 guides his younger charges warriors in a gruelling set of challenges to discover who will triumph. I've never heard of that. That started in 2002. No, I don't know what that is. But that was in the, we got a lot of comments. Because every now and then, like, not every now and then, but often Ben or Lawrence or Matt or Collings will put in a clip
Starting point is 01:12:01 of something in a video. And then we get a lot of comments like, oh, my God, I can't believe you watch this YouTube. I can't believe you know the show. And I'm like, I've never seen that before. I don't know what it is. And Raven is a recent example of that. Or they're like, oh my God, I can't believe you like Jimmy. You guys love Phineas and Ferb.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Yeah, you guys love Jimmy the Bucket is my favorite YouTuber. I don't know who that is. Also that's made up, I'm pretty sure. But it will exist. Yeah, and he might be cancelled. We've mentioned this before, but The Incredible Hulk had a bunch of spin-offs. We recently watched the episode where the trial of The Incredible Hulk,
Starting point is 01:12:32 which is just the daredevil show. Yeah, that's not terrible. The Hulk took a real backseat. And also there's a Thor one. Yeah, that's true. We also did Aquaman for the Smallville because there was going to be a show called Mercy Reef. That's right.
Starting point is 01:12:44 And that's fun. We've obviously talked about Son of the Mask. The Caravan of Courage, Ewok spinoff movies. Yeah. We are going to do them at some point, but that was a thing. What do you think? A lot of people also put Street Fighter, The Legend of Chun-Li, but that's not a spinoff. No.
Starting point is 01:13:01 I mean, it's sort of a spinoff of nothing. It is a side story, but there's no main thing happening. It's not even... It's like a Snake Eyes Origins. It was Ming-Na Wen who was Chun-Li in the original one. It's Kristen Kierke. Exactly. So, no.
Starting point is 01:13:18 No, and thank you. No, no. No, thank you. No. I've got a couple of... Oh, I've got to ask you about this. Where do you stand on the Alien vs. Predator movies? Oh.
Starting point is 01:13:27 And they are spin-offs of both series. Yes. Do you mean do I like them? Yeah. No. But I think Alien vs. Predator Requiem is the better sequel, even though nobody else... I'm the only one in the world that thinks that,
Starting point is 01:13:39 but there it is. Okay, what about this? I've got two good ones to end on. Okay. And please, feel free to jump in, Mason, at any point. 21 Jump Street had a spin-off called Booker. I remember Booker. It had Richard Grieco.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Richard Grieco, who was... The Greekest man in the world. That's right. He and Johnny Depp headed up that original series, and obviously people have seen the movies, which is also a sequel to the original show, it turns out, because they're both in those movies, whatever. They're undercover high schoolers, right?
Starting point is 01:14:03 I mean, everyone's seen the new movies, obviously. But yeah, so that was like a very serious, like cop crime, drug busting drama in the 80s, right? And it had hot and new stars. Charlie Claus and I recently talked about it on Faux Fop because we talked about the Hey Hey It's Saturday, Johnny Depp appearance. And then you're going to be talking about Booker.
Starting point is 01:14:20 That's right. Anyway, so, but this is why this doesn't work, right? Go on. Because I'm going to read you the synopsisis because the idea of like going into a high school and you're a cop and you have to pretend to be young that's kind of fresh and new i guess and like oh exciting and whatever but this is like dennis booker who was once worked for a large metropolitan police department is now hired by the dennis booker yeah didn't see that coming is now hired by the- Dennis Booker. Yeah. Didn't see that coming. Is now hired by the- I would have kept that quiet, honestly.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Is now hired by the US office of a large Japanese company to investigate some suspicious insurance claims. Went for a couple of seasons. Wow, insurance claims. Incredible stuff. How about this, James? Okay. Did we mention this last time?
Starting point is 01:15:01 NCIS is a spinoff of JAG. Maybe in passing. Okay. But that's obviously huge and big JAG. Maybe in passing. Okay. But that's obviously huge and big, Mason. Huge and big. It's been going for 100 years. It's bigger than JAG. In fact, NCIS obviously had NCIS LA and probably another one.
Starting point is 01:15:14 I agree. I've got a big one to end on, though. Okay, I'm ready. Big flop, I mean, Mason. Uh-oh. Evan Almighty. It's sort of a sequel, but it is more of a spin-off of Bruce Almighty because Evan appears as a minor character, Steve Carell, in the first movie.
Starting point is 01:15:28 But then he got famous. Then he got famous. So they thought, hey, let's do Noah's Ark. Hey, also, let's put $175 million into this movie for some reason. And I've seen bits of it. It's not very good or funny. And also, he doesn't have God powers. He has to build an ark with animals.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Oh, yeah. And it made doesn't have God powers. He has to build an ark with animals. Oh, yeah. And it made $174.4 million. So just $600,000 shy of breaking even, not including marketing, obviously. Wow. Also, I just quickly Googled, are any of the friends in Joey? And they said, oh, they were too busy with individual film projects. Also, they literally couldn't afford them because they would have cost about $1 million per episode. I was going to say, yeah, they were too busy being very rich.
Starting point is 01:16:07 But also, like, Matt Labonte. What's his name? Matt Labonte. Chandler's in, like, Scrubs. Oh, we didn't even talk about Scrubs. Oh, yeah. It's sort of got a sequel. It's got Scrubs interns, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:19 It's okay. I know a lot of people hate it, but I thought it was fine. It was fine. And that's everything that I've got. I mean, there's a trillion billion more. Of course there are. We do not have time. We'll come back to it another time.
Starting point is 01:16:29 No, we won't. Next time we'll come back to the episode of Gilmore Girls where Milo Ventimiglia's character goes to find his dad in San Francisco or whatever. I did see a lot of Gilmore Girls, various other spin-offs, and I'm like, I don't know anything about Gilmore Girls. Well, I mean, Supernatural is a spin-off of Gilmore Girls. No, it's not. No, it's just got the same one guy it's because i'm like is that true whatever it was there needs to be more mundane drama shows more can mindy style on happy
Starting point is 01:16:57 days or like chachi sells his soul to the devil where it's just nephew yeah yeah so it's just a really mundane show and they're like the devil has a brother or... Devil's nephew. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's just a really mundane show and they're like... That means the devil has a brother or sister. It's true. Okay, go on. Yeah, but there just needs to be more where it's a really mundane show and they're like, we like that guy. What if he had telekinetic powers?
Starting point is 01:17:14 That's kind of like Millennium. What if the soda shop had telekinetic powers? Yeah. Fantastic stuff, Mason. Do you know what it's time for now? Is it time for what we're reading? Yep. What are we going to read?
Starting point is 01:17:24 I can't believe it, but you're absolutely right. That's right. Westworld? Whoa. I love talking about what I've been reading. Me too. Or what I've been listening to or what I've been watching. And what have you been doing any of those things?
Starting point is 01:17:42 Great question, James. Well, we got a little advanced viewing of, the TV series Moon Knight. We've seen a Moon Knight episode. So there will be a, a video up pretty soon, I think. That'll come up Wednesday,
Starting point is 01:17:53 about the Moon Knight jobs. Which will be very, very exciting. Wait, I don't think we can say that. Oh, then I'm, I have no opinions on it whatsoever. But in, in,
Starting point is 01:18:03 I got a little, got a little, got a little taste of little taste of that oscar isaac yeah so i watched um the card counter which is a movie that came out last year is that good it is good it's um so it's uh oscar isaac yep it's tiffany haddish in a dramatic role wow it's ty sheridan wow cyclops from some of the x-men movies i know this and willem dafoe and it's basically it uh um it's basically, it's Oscar Isaac. He's gotten out of prison. I won't say what, why he was in prison or whatever.
Starting point is 01:18:31 And he's just a guy who makes his living sort of doing, he learned to count cards in prison and he's, now his living is like six or seven days a week. He just goes to various, he drives to various casinos and he does like small, like card counting. Just kind of chips away at it. Like blackjack and he makes a little bit of money. But then Ty Sheridan and Tiffany Haddish show up separately
Starting point is 01:18:53 and they're like, hey, Oscar Isaac, you want a bit of drama? You want a bit of drama that would be suitable for a movie? Does he want drama? Initially he doesn't, but then he's like, maybe a bit of drama though. Maybe a bit of drama would spice up my weird life and maybe doing one of those oceans 11 styles like backflips onto a bank vault or whatever like yeah he becomes they're like do you want to be do you want to be the little oiled up guy in a in a little in a little casino trolley and he's like yeah i am kind of little actually why would i do that i think i'm little i mean i'm on like
Starting point is 01:19:21 television so i look bigger but i don't know am Am I little? He's, like, 5'9", I think, or 5'8", something like that. So he's 5'2", really. It's true. That's his official height. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's good. It's good. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:32 What's it on? I bought it on YouTube Movies. Wow. That's right. I spent $5 or $6 or something on it. To rent or buy? Rent. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:40 I don't like it when I buy a thing and then it's stuck in my, like, list of things that I've bought. You know what I mean? Because there's, like, three things then it's stuck in my list of things that I've bought. You know what I mean? Because there's like three things. It's like one of the versions of Suicide Squad. Yes. The early one.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Just lurking there like a trap. And then like a random episode of It's Always Sunny and whatever. And this movie was directed by Paul Schrader. He wrote Taxi Driver. Oh. He's one of those guys. It's a movie. It's executive produced by Miles West. The Jimmy Fallon taxi movie.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Yeah, taxi. That's a good one, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hasn't that taxi got magic powers or whatever? I don't think it does. Wow, imagine if it did, though. That's the movie I'd want to watch and make. Anyway, he's written and directed a bunch of stuff,
Starting point is 01:20:15 and it's a good movie. It's terrific. Very stylish. Oh, stylish, you say? Yes. Now, here's something that I've been watching, Mason, that I know you've also watched. Oh, I've watched some episodes of Jack Reacher on Amazon Prime.
Starting point is 01:20:25 Oh, did you? What do you think of it? It's all right. I know a lot of people like love it or whatever. How did you, of all people, get onto this? How did you find any spare time
Starting point is 01:20:32 in your life to watch any episodes? It's popping up and whatever. Anyway, so it's interesting because at the start, he doesn't talk for like 20 minutes the first episode, but then he doesn't shut the fuck up
Starting point is 01:20:41 for the rest of it. I thought his whole thing was he's stoic and he only spoke when he needed to say anything. No, he's one of those guys. But he does not stop explaining shit to everybody all the time. Like colleagues, cops he likes, cops he hates, wives of people who have just been murdered.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Before he beats up a person, he explains their strengths and weaknesses. And then he hits them with a bottle in the head or something. Do you know what I mean? Like he's just like, it's a solid show. Don't get me wrong. And he's a great Jack Reacher. And it is well cast all around. But it's just a little like, oh, look, the best man in the world is doing a thing.
Starting point is 01:21:14 It's terrific. What you have to settle into is it is a show. Like, he is the TV equivalent of, like, most of The Rock's characters. In that he's just, you're there to cheer on a guy who's just steamrolling everybody. Like, there's no, I mean, there are of out not not it's not really a spoiler but you know there'll be there will be a couple of l sequences later on where like maybe somebody yeah gets it gets over on him but it's like you you look at the scene and go why did it work then and it didn't work every other episode like why did why did you catch him by surprise then when every single other time
Starting point is 01:21:47 somebody went to catch him by surprise and he's like, I know you're there and I've got 15 ways to defeat you from this position or whatever, you know? And you're right, he has Sherlock powers where he's like, you're divorced because you're sad and you look to the left. Is that why they got divorced? You're too much looking to the left, your wife hated it. You ended up in the arms of another man.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Yeah, I think it's also very much one of those shows where I'd imagine a lot of people would be like, this is me. That's exactly what it is. Well, yeah, I mean, the steamroller. And maybe that's why I don't like it as much because I'm like, this is not me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:18 I'm like, man, I could not vault that fence. Let me tell you. What I have to do is I'd have to keep walking until I found a low point of the fence, maybe a bit the fence had like bit a bit of broken off but you could climb through and i could just barely squirrel through i could barely lift my foot over my knee just like this is look but it's not i mean it's entertaining don't get me wrong but yeah i i i don't know because i heard people like it's amazing and i'm like did i say that i don't know if you did but i don't think it was sad i'm like yeah no it's it's solid. Did I say that? I don't know if you did, but I heard people say it. I'm like, yeah, no, it's solid.
Starting point is 01:22:45 And I get why people like it. They also had to give him, like, the.50 caliber Desert Eagle, like the biggest handgun that exists on Earth, so he would have a gun that looks normal in his hand. He's so big. But again, Alan Richardson, is it? Alan Richardson. Yeah, he's really good.
Starting point is 01:23:04 I'd like to see him in, like, because he's been in a bunch of stuff. Yeah, he's been in Titans and Smallville. And he's been behind the scenes in a bunch of stuff, Smallville, but whatever. But it's honestly great that he's got his own show and people are liking it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:23:17 Now, I said last week I'd do some festival recommendations, comedy festival recommendations. Wow, I love festivals. Hasn't started yet. It is starting this coming week, I think. Maybe middle of this week so friends of the show
Starting point is 01:23:29 Andy Matthews and if you're in Melbourne friends of the show Andy Matthews now on set Trombe by Virtual have a show called My Client is Innocent
Starting point is 01:23:34 every word has inverted commas around it and it's some sort of silly play couple of silly boys for people who don't know in Australia they write on a show
Starting point is 01:23:42 called Mad as Hell which is a network TV show. It's a real show. It is a real TV show. And not only that, it's a very good show. A very good show. So they write on that and they do like a blend of smart and silly comedy. If you did want to check out any of their stuff and you're not in the area,
Starting point is 01:23:56 their last show, Teleport, they filmed? Yeah, it's on the Stupid Old Studios website. Yeah, you can check it out. You can give it a look. Yeah. You can give it a purchase. Yeah. This doesn't start for a couple of weeks,
Starting point is 01:24:06 but I'm going to recommend it in advance. A friend of the show, Michael Williams, has a show called Colonel. He crushed it last year, didn't he, as well? Was it last year? Maybe. Did you do one last year? Because of all the pandemic.
Starting point is 01:24:16 I can't remember. I can't remember who did one and who didn't last year. Yeah, but he's written a musical about the life of Colonel Sanders. Oh, that's fine. And it's him and he's put together a crew called the Nibble Pie Players and they're doing a show about Colonel Sanders. And finally, another friend of the show, Beck Petratus. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:35 And Kate Dennett have a show called Swamped where it's like a comedy play about entrepreneurs having a big week. Now that's fun. So that should be funny and I'll do some more recommendations next week. Terrific. Yeah. Well, I'm going to recommend that we move to the next segment of the show. Can I recommend you give me five seconds?
Starting point is 01:24:52 Because I was looking up comedy festival shows and I didn't have time to search for these. This is you. You're like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. I know. You could have used that time to look up the letters.
Starting point is 01:25:01 I did. All part of my plan, idiot. Oh, did you? The classic one was the letters oh letters we love you some letters they're only a day away i know they're here right now we're gonna do letters wow this is a segment of the show where we say to you hey you got any letters to send to us? Please do. You can actually do it via Gmail. Hey! Weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. You could also hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter also
Starting point is 01:25:30 if you are so inclined or you could run into me in the street and give me a physical letter. What? Mason. Oh my God. That's a,
Starting point is 01:25:40 that's a, that's a manila, a little manila envelope. That's right. Half, what's this, an A5? I'd say, yeah, it might be an A5.
Starting point is 01:25:46 Yeah, it's been folded, so it looks like it's been in the pocket for a while there. Yeah, no, no, it wasn't folded when he gave it to me. Oh, it was in your pocket. I folded it immediately. James, James, that's how I know you're getting divorced. You're always folding your manila. And looking to the left. Put your bloody wife in the arms of another man.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Anyway, carry on. Would you like to read the letter or would you like me to read the letter? I'd love to read the letter. Here we go. I'll hand it over to you. This one fell. Does it have anthrax in it?
Starting point is 01:26:12 Who knows? I'll give it a sniff. Should I reveal this first? Yeah, no, let's do it at the end. Okay. Dear James and Mason, speaking of reboots set in the 60s, asterisk, I think you mentioned a Bond reboot set in the 60s.
Starting point is 01:26:26 We probably did. That sounds like something I would do. I've always thought the MCU Fantastic Four reboot would be great if it was set in the 1960s. The original costumes, weird technology, and quaint family dynamics would sit well in that period rather than trying to reimagine it into a modern setting, which has never really worked.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Perhaps in the first movie, they go into space at the end, and when they get back, time has passed to the present due to relativity moving at the speed of when they get back time has passed to the present due to relativity moving at the speed of light, et cetera. Science checks out. And it will be fun to see them meet the rest of the MCU heroes
Starting point is 01:26:50 in the modern era. Yours sincerely, Phil. P.S. The $10 is not legal tender. So he's included what looks at first blush to be a real... Looks crisp and real.
Starting point is 01:27:01 An Australian $10 note or bill. But actually it's been photoshopped so our faces are on both sides. Pretty impressive Photoshop if you don't mind me saying so either, Mason. Very good. Who am I? Am I Banjo Patterson here? I think so. I'm Banjo Patterson.
Starting point is 01:27:14 And I'm the other person on the $10 note. You're the lady on the tenner. Yeah. That's great. Fantastic stuff. Fantastic stuff. How did you run into this person? I'm just out and about, Mason.
Starting point is 01:27:22 I don't want to give away anybody's location, but I'm moving around town a bit more these days, you know what I mean? Now that my kids are slightly grown up. And I'm just hitting the burbs I'm hitting the city, you know what I mean? So you're saying karate class. That's right, karate class. You had the same karate class. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:27:37 We had the same divorce lawyer. Anyways. So on the topic of Fantastic Four, though, Peyton Reed wanted to do his version set in the 60s, didn't he? Yes, that's right. Do you think there's a chance, because they're always doing a callback and whatever, and we've probably talked about this before,
Starting point is 01:27:51 that that's the version they're going to go with, like the Fantastic Four lost in the 60s? I hope so, yeah. Austin Powers style. Quantum Realm. Quantum Realm, whatever. They could even go, I remember that little dark patch of space in the Quantum Realm during,
Starting point is 01:28:03 maybe they'll do it in Quantumania. That's right. Maybe like, this is what I was supposed to do. Maybe like Ant-Man, you know, original Ant-Man knows them. So that would be a good place to follow them. That would be good, yeah. Anyways, apparently, I don't even remember doing this, or vaguely remember.
Starting point is 01:28:18 I think we said, if you see us, give us a physical letter, but there has to be $10 in it. There it is. Yeah. Perfect. Also, if you do happen to run into us, don't literally literally give us ten dollars no like so that's you don't have to we won't read it but we have plenty of ten dollars of our own that's right but thank you very much phil for keeping that on your person and also putting in the effort really appreciate
Starting point is 01:28:39 it uh here's a here's an email from uh from matthew hello i almost died while listening to your podcast brackets not clickbait. All right. Hey, James and Mason. So the other day I was listening to the pod while driving home from picking up dinner. Ooh, lucky for some. I know, right? While I was entering the highway, an 18-wheeler on the access road missed the entrance and
Starting point is 01:28:57 decided it was a good idea to cut across two lanes of traffic while also deciding to decelerate to maybe 10 miles an hour on the highway. Blumenheck. Why? All while this was happening, they missed the exit, I think. Okay, okay. All while this was happening, you said something hilarious. Lucky for some.
Starting point is 01:29:15 And I was too busy laughing to apply the brakes, only doing so at the last possible second, stopping maybe two feet from the truck. Jesus. My car was fine. I flipped off the drive of the truck and proceeded on my way. But my food, which was in the passenger seat,
Starting point is 01:29:26 was flung forward and I hit the brakes and was promptly ruined. Oh, no. Anyway, keep up the good work, Matthew. Sounds like we owe Matthew $10.
Starting point is 01:29:32 Yeah. He's not going to get it, though. No, I don't think so. That's right. Maybe we'll keep We've got dinner to spill in our cars.
Starting point is 01:29:37 That's right. Oh, man. Well, I'm glad you're not dead. I wonder if there's anybody who's, like, listened and died and we don't know.
Starting point is 01:29:44 What a great thing to bring up. But I also wondered this i hope not mason i don't mind telling you do you think just to make it a bit more positive because you've really dragged the vibe around i'm dragging it down specifically and what i'm saying is i think probably there's somebody who's maybe like they're listening to the podcast and they've dug up like a magical jewel and they've become immortal okay you know and they've they've shot out into space i don't care about that yeah no it's what they got to do with me i don't know but they're not going to give us ten dollars are they nah i don't even want any of those magical powers i don't want any of that they're like you get infinite space powers you can no fuck it no let me learn i'm gonna finish jack reacher yeah this show that i
Starting point is 01:30:25 don't really like are you sure you don't want the magical space powers yes i mean what do you think is going to happen at the end of jack reacher i mean it's it's pretty formulaic i mean he's gonna it's gonna probably be a big shootout or something have you seen it i mean i mean i watched a few episodes but i thought it was kind of a foregone conclusion. And also, he's going to go to another town in the next season. So, I mean, what, am I going to fall in love with all these characters and then I'm not going to get to see them again? I think there'll be some recurring characters. He might make a phone call or something.
Starting point is 01:30:56 Oh, a phone call. That's very, wow. Wow, I'm going to commit to a whole season for a phone. Oh, he's going to call the detective, is he? I don't want the gem. Anyways, do you have any other letters? I do have another letter. I do have another letter.
Starting point is 01:31:10 Okay, give us another letter. Not a physical letter. All right. This is from Touched Elf. Well, I think we've had this before, and we're like, is it Touche Delph? It's probably Touche Delph. But it's not. It is, just to clarify.
Starting point is 01:31:23 Because I've been having a really terrible few days, I'd like to request- You ever seen any Delphs on the internet? Not as that. Never mind. What is that? It was a Delph reference, but I don't- Okay, so that's-
Starting point is 01:31:32 It doesn't matter. James, it's not all gold. Sometimes this is just workshopping. Oh, that's not like a weird thing I look up and then I'd be like, well, now I know that for real. No, no, no. Okay, cool. I went MILF, DILF, Delph.
Starting point is 01:31:42 Okay. Touche, Delph. Very good. You know? That's how my mind works. That's a fun little insight into how it works or doesn't work. It's really amazing. I went milf, dilf, delf. Okay. Touche, delf. Very good. That's how my mind works. That's a fun little insight into how it works or doesn't work. It's really amazing. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:31:52 Because I've been having a really terrible few days, sorry to hear that. That sucks. I'd like to request some positivity. What's the best thing that happened to each of you this week? By the way, it's pronounced touched elf. Oh, touche, delf. I know, right?
Starting point is 01:32:02 Long story. Just say Amanda. Hashtag weekly planet pod. Yeah, what's a good thing thatph. I know, right? Long story. Just say Amanda. Hashtag weekly planet pod. Yeah, what's a good thing that's happened to you, Mason? I love driving around in my stupid little car. This is a while ago, but I just got a stupid little car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I drive around in it.
Starting point is 01:32:15 You're honking at people? Taking the top down. Younger people? Younger people? Sometimes I'm honking at people. Are you wearing a hat when you're taking the top down? No. There is a hat in the boot, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:22 They gave me a hat when I bought the car. Don't you think, like, weren't If you go on top down You're hat off right I mean I'd be hat off Yeah I think I would fear That I was losing my hat Yeah exactly
Starting point is 01:32:32 Yeah But here's the thing That did happen I mean the sun I think I mentioned If you're bored In sunscreen I guess Yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:32:36 I think I mentioned this to you I stopped at a roundabout Yeah And because there was a car coming You know on the side there And you've got to wait For the oncoming car and the guy behind me honked his horn
Starting point is 01:32:46 because I wasn't just screaming into the roundabout. So what I did was I just stopped there and I just pulled the roof, like I wound the roof back and then I just gave him the finger. Yeah, fuck him. It was fun. I hate that shit. What a delight.
Starting point is 01:32:59 Yeah. You can do that every day of the week now. I did. I do. Cool. Well, that's fun. What have you been up to? Is it something to do with family and friends and bloody kids and whatever?
Starting point is 01:33:08 Yes, Mason. I didn't buy a fancy little car like a little Lord Fauntleroy flipping off the general public around town. But a couple of things. I caught up with some uni friends on Friday, which was good fun. I drank way too much, but it was good fun. This episode was going to be recorded yesterday, but I got a text. It was just like, no was good fun. I drank way too much and that was, but it was good fun. This episode was going to be recorded yesterday, but I got a text. It was just like,
Starting point is 01:33:28 no, not happening. The other thing is, that's what I know. I got a physical letter. That uni friends are around. It's true. Not insensitive Dave. No, he was there.
Starting point is 01:33:39 Insensitive Dave was there. Oh, that's great. I got a physical letter, which was good. Also, I've been playing the new Kirby game with my son, which he's been talking about for like months. He's like, when are we getting this bloody Kirby game?
Starting point is 01:33:52 So we went and got it. We were playing that together. And my daughter has started dance lessons, and it's really fun to see her. She's just loving herself sick in the dance studios. We're in there. We're doing little dances and stuff. Oh, I know a fun thing that happened this week. You showed me a video of her running in another kit and falling over.
Starting point is 01:34:04 That's true. I did show you that as well. Yeah, but she's loving it. And she's like the littlest one there by like quite a bit. And it's just very adorable. Anyways, Touched Elf, real name Amanda. I hope those were okay stories. There you go.
Starting point is 01:34:18 Mason's was mean though and cruel. Hell yeah. That's who I've become, James. I know. What else, Mason? I listen to ABC Classic FM on my little car. I've become the exact thing that I hate, the real me. The you you've been trying to suppress.
Starting point is 01:34:34 Yeah, that's right. Terrific stuff. Here's one more email. This is from Aiden. Okay, Aiden. He says, moving out is his subject line. Moving out. I started listening to you guys around when I started year eight.
Starting point is 01:34:47 I'd listen on the long bus trip and on long late-night walks. Wow. After a week, I'd caught up. I started rationing new episodes as they came out or re-listening to your earliest episodes. Wow. By the time I'd re-listened to them all, I got my school iPad and started watching the movies and shows
Starting point is 01:34:59 you'd recommend and what you're going to read. Awesome. As an autistic kid who often found media movies and movie-related commentary straining, your casual and non-judgmental analysis completely changed my relationship to read. Awesome! As an autistic kid who often found media movies and movie-related commentary straining, your casual and non-judgmental analysis completely changed my relationship to media. In so many ways, you helped me become more confident and sociable. Every week, I felt like I got
Starting point is 01:35:13 to partake in the kinds of conversations I could never manage myself. You felt like my friends! That's really nice of you to say that. I'm moving out of home now into a crummy unit I bought. It's all very overwhelming. Tonight is my last night here, and I'm on my last late-night long walk around here for a while in order to try and deal with the nostalgia I knew that I had
Starting point is 01:35:30 to listen to your latest episode, followed by your first. It's really helped me to feel all the things I felt back then. Thanks from Aidan. Congratulations on all of that. That's really cool, getting their own place and moving out. I love a night walk. I don't so much do them anymore because I'm a drunk. But that was like instead of podcasting, we used to night walk.
Starting point is 01:35:49 That's true, yeah. Yeah. So there you go. The technology wasn't there to walk and record things. Because, you know, I was going to make a joke about this spooky house, but that was from another thing we recorded about where we record. The Moon Knight thing that we did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:03 That's great, though. Yeah. I love hearing stuff like that. Me too things in general you know i love more than anything though what's that when you wrap up the show it's my favorite thing in the world thanks man i appreciate it yeah all right folks thank you so much for listening because it means he's bloody gone home oh anyway guys thanks for listening to the show thank you for subscribing thanks for telling your friends about it and thank you for leaving a five star review on whatever platform you happen to use
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Starting point is 01:36:55 Datalo Way who says appreciation hey big fan been watching since I was 15 I'm now 20 about to turn 21
Starting point is 01:37:03 and I watch a lot of you guys on youtube and sorry i watch a lot of uh guys on youtube on this podcast and just easily forgot about them but you guys you guys are different every sunday after mass i'll look forward to your videos then somewhere down the line i just started listening to the pod probably has something to do with me just want to hear your guys opinions on whatever happened that week just sense of humor resonates with me more than it probably should because I have a similar relationship with my good friend, probably my best friend, who's now in the Air Force. And you know, it's tough sometimes.
Starting point is 01:37:31 I miss how it used to be. And you guys bring it back for me in a way. Love you. Don't stop. Don't ever, always, sorry. Love you both. Don't stop. Ever, always keep going.
Starting point is 01:37:41 Whoa. We won't. I might. Yeah, we might. Probably might. Not right now. Yeah. Whoa. We won't. I might. Yeah, we might. Probably might. But not right now. Yeah. That's right.
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Starting point is 01:38:28 We don't care. Times are tough out there. I agree. What is the thing about the belly pocket and whatever? Yeah, if you didn't miss it. If you wouldn't miss the amount, donate the amount of money that you wouldn't miss if you lost it. Or don't.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Yeah. Yeah. That's right. What else, Mason? Give us a fake $10 on the street. Yes, that's right. Or if you're a big spender, you can go to bigsandwich.co. You can sign up for $9 per month, all sorts of bonus content,
Starting point is 01:38:50 as we've mentioned, movie commentaries, and bonus stuff. You know? Yeah, there is. As we mentioned, we did a Morbius Book Club. That's right. We did other things, didn't we? We did that and other things. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:39:01 Folks, we've got T-shirts on tpublic.com. You just search for The Weekly Planet or go to redbubble.com and search for Robat, Bat and Bat. If you're still in a Robat, Bat and Bat T-shirt buying mind, why wouldn't you be? Buy one for the Blu-ray release. Exactly. Go see The Batman again. Did you see The Batman again?
Starting point is 01:39:17 No, I know. I only saw it once. I saw it one time. Do we have a Morbius-related T-shirt? No. No. Well, that's something to think about. It is.
Starting point is 01:39:26 In the couple of days we have until that movie becomes irrelevant. Yeah. Oh, you can do that. And thank you to the Brute and the Bassist. It's going to rank them for all our musical themes. We forgot to do Snake Eyes again. It's just occurred to me. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:39:37 And that's a spin-off in a way, isn't it? No. That's probably why we didn't do it. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Great, great, great, great, great. That's the whole show folks Next week Oh my god
Starting point is 01:39:46 Here it is I cannot wait More BS More BS Then less BS Then no BS That's right To tell you that much
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