The Weekly Planet - 429 Fantastic Beasts again I guess

Episode Date: April 11, 2022

Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.The Fantastic Beasts franchise returns and it literally in cinemas! And boy is it not really worth talking about. Plus other news etc and so forth, thanks for listening!00:00 The Start01:59 Will Smith Backlash06:31 Morbius Method Acting09:15 Brie Larson joins Fast 1011:17 Nicolas Cage AMA14:14 Tyrese Gibson Tricked16:41 Thor 4 Villain Leaks (minor spoilers)19:18 New Sherlock Series20:17 Raimi Spider-Man 4 Possible22:35 Star Wars Prequels Caravan of Garbage24:05 Ezra Miller Emergency Meeting27:50 Fantastic Beasts: Secrets of Dumbledore (spoilers 43:01 to 01:12:00)01:12:00 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:16:51 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday and and with me as always is my co-host, is that one Nick Mason I spy over there? You definitely spy me with your little eye. Thank goodness. Your one little eye. My one little eye, that's right. Big week this, mate.

Big week, big week, Mason. Want to start again? No. News-wise. We are high as a kite. We've both eaten low-calorie ice cream. Yeah, 90 calories a pop, mate. Oh, my God.

That's right. 90 calories worth of energy. This one's going to be wild. That's all you need. There are time codes below, of course, because Collings, who edits this, puts them in every week. We're going to talk about the Will Smith backlash, if you will, Mason. We're going to talk about method acting.

We're going to talk about some Fast 10 casting, some Thor 4 leaks. We're also going to talk about... I think they should call that movie Fast 10, your butthole. Fast 10, with what? I don't know. Like a glue gun? Yeah, maybe a glue gun.

I don't like that. Bit of a twist because everybody says Fast 10, your seatbelt. We all have a good laugh. No, no, that's what I would say. Some Spider-Man 4 news, the rainy one that is. What is Robert Downey Jr. doing? Oh, our famous segment, what's Robert Downey Jr. doing? What's he going to do?

And then, of course, there's some terrible Ezra Miller news. Oh, boy. Well, not really, just an extension of the news last week. Oh, okay. And, of course, that leads into Fantastic Beasts, Secrets of One Dumbledore Brindlebird. What's his name? What's his full name?

Albus Dumbledore. Dumbledore Brindlebird. Yeah, our favourite movie of this and probably any year from now, from here on out. Yeah, it'll all be downhill after this, I think. Yeah, it's hard when you hit the peak of cinema, isn't it? Isn't it, though? Anyway, if you want to jump to that, you can,

because as mentioned, there are time codes. But let's start off with Will Smith being banned for 10 years from the Academy and going to the Oscars and looking at the Oscars, but he gets to keep his Oscar. That's terrific. This is the quote from them. During our telecast, we did not adequately address the situation in the room.

For this, we are sorry. This is an opportunity for us to set an example for our guest viewers and our academy family around the world and we fell short, unprepared and unprecedented, so there you go 10 years, fine whatever, that's fine, isn't it that's not much of a punishment

I mean what else could they do beyond that they're the academy, they're not the police, wow now Will Smith has like 30 hours of free time over the next 10 years. What's he going to do with it, do you reckon? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know either. Maybe restart his rap career.

Maybe he could. It's been a long time. But speaking of something which has also taken a hit, a number of his movies has been put on hold. A number of his movies has been put on hold? That's right. Bad Boys 4, for example. Whoa.

Yeah. Didn't know it was happening. I mean, either. He has a Netflix movie called Fast and Loose. Okay. Where Will Smith is a crime boss who is experiencing memory loss and he later learns about his double life and that he is actually an undercover agent.

Whoa. Wow. So he was a double agent. He started as a cop and then he. No, he was a crime boss, but he was also a double agent and an undercover agent and he has memory loss. But that's what I'm saying. So did he work his way up to being a crime boss?

Did he start as a cop and then he became a double agent but then he worked his way all the way to the top? This movie they've delayed. You're asking me. Yeah, I'm asking you for the finer plot details of this movie that you've never heard of and is now delayed. I just think it's a big year for movies and TV shows' memory loss. Obviously we've got Secrets of Dumbledore's.

Obviously we've got the show Severance. Obviously we've got the show Moon Knight. There's a lot of memory loss happening. Yeah, absolutely. Our recaps are still going on. Collins is editing those also. Bright 2, what does that mean? Who knows?

There was another Bright thing recently. Like an animated something? No, I think there was another live action bright thing. That cannot be true. It's on Netflix. I'm going to look it up right now. I'm sure you weren't just looking at the sun and you went, that's bright. I can't rule it out.

I do that fairly regularly. Bright on Netflix. That is fascinating, Mason. If that's true, that can be part of your one bit of news. Bright. Samurai soul. What is it? I think it's animated.

Two warriors must escort an elf girl to her homeland on a journey to fight off dark forces and to redeem themselves. 2021, an hour and 20 minutes. Is it connected to the Bright universe? It has to be. What's it called again, sorry? Bright Samurai Soul. And under collection, regular Bright is there.

Oh, wow. Yeah. And I may spin off. Yeah. Bright is there. Oh, wow. Yeah. Anime spin-off, yeah. There you go. Wow, wow, wow. Apparently it's got- Odd that you didn't know about it. Why would I know about it?

Because it's anime. Oh, yeah. No, it's not really, though, is it? It seems that way. Yeah, but it's also a spin-off of a bad movie, so that's probably why I also don't know about it. Probably true, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, no, it is anime. You're right. Wow. Anime director. There you go. Fantastic. I mean, who cares? The other thing is via Rolling Stone,

apparently the Deadshot movie has already been put on hold due to the salary requirements. They don't know the exact number, so this is already not happening, but apparently for King Richard he made $20 million. Okay. So I'd imagine you'd have to give him something equivalent to turn up as that guy who's sort of good at shooting like everybody else in that time. Yeah,

right, right, right. So that's good. Everyone's already forgotten. That's terrific. So there you go. That is the end of the Will Smith saga and obviously we'll have a big party when he comes back in 10 years. If we're not all dead, Mason! Wow. Yes! If we're not all dead we'll get jiggy with it. I think we

should. Yeah. Wow. Feels like a millennium away, doesn't it? Yes. Wouldn't it not all dead, we'll get jiggy with it. I think we should. Yeah. Wow. Feels like a millennium away, doesn't it? Yes. Wouldn't it be incredible? I think I saw someone tweet this, that if the first thing he does when he comes back and he gets his big standing ovation and applause and he's made amends and he's just spent 10 years just doing wonderful work in community outreach and he just fucking slaps someone like straight up.

Just whoever happens to be on stage, double slap. There's two presenters and he's just like wham, wham. Oh, not the one big slap like a follow through? Oh, maybe, yeah. Okay, maybe, yeah. Like he's just been training for ten years to perfect the double slap. Yes, perfect. Yeah.

And look, Oscar attendees and office, sorry, Oscar attendees and Oscar winners and nominees have done way worse stuff. Oh, yeah. But it's just because he embarrassed them publicly. Exactly. And they have to do something, you know, because it was on television. And you can't do that on television. No, you can't.

So they should have slimed him. Exactly. This is via Uproxx. Are you familiar with method acting? I'm familiar with method acting. There we go. Because the director of Morbius was speaking to Mike Ryan at Uproxx about Jared Leto's behind the scenes, and this is what Mike Ryan asked.

I heard a story about filming, and I want to see if this is true. Someone told me that Jared Leto was so committed to playing Michael Morbius that even when he had to go to the bathroom, he would use his crutches and slowly limp to get to the bathroom. But it was taking so long between pee breaks that a deal was made for him to get him a wheelchair so someone could wheel him there quicker and he agreed to that. Is that true?

Oh, here we go. And then the director says, yes. Oh, boy. And then he says, all right. And then he says, yeah, because I think that's what Jared thinks, what Jared believes, is that somehow the pain of those moments, even when he's playing normal Michael Morbius, he needed. So he did it when he was normal Michael Morbius.

Oh, like, no, I think he means non-powered Michael Morbius there. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. Because he was having this pain his whole life, even though as he's alive and strong it has to be a difference. Hey, man, it's people's process. That's fucking ridiculous.

What are you doing? Well, did you see – Mads Mikkelsen? Mads Mikkelsen said something about it. I have the quote here. Please. This is what he said on method acting. What if it's a shit film?

What do you think you achieved? Am I impressed that you didn't drop character? You should have dropped it from the beginning. Nice. Wonderful. And Robert Pattinson should have dropped it from the beginning. Nice. And Robert Pattinson's also talked about in the past is like no one ever method acts being really nice and kind and helpful. I mean, what is any of that? What are you doing?

It's ridiculous. Just get up. Yeah. He did it for Blade Runner with being blind as well. Yeah. I don't get it. Like what? Why? He did it for Blade Runner with being blind as well. It's just I don't get it. Like why?

I mean I would imagine it's just he's got to build a mystique around him as an actor. I think maybe that's the key. Great. Because it's not for better performances in these movies that are torn to pieces in editing anyway. You're right. And they would get you to do five takes and just pick one that seems good at the time.

Big drop-off second week though on, on Mr Michael Morbius. Yeah. Like a 75% drop-off or something. I would love to know, if you're a method actor on the level of a Jared Leto. Sure. And you flub a line and the director calls cut. Yeah.

Where do you go there? Because you often watch blooper reels and somebody screws up a line and everybody has a laugh. Nah, bring it back. Okay, we'll try this again. Oh, look at this guy. Does he just, like, stare? Does he just, look at this guy. Does he just like stare? Does he just like brood?

Does anyone make a joke? Oh, maybe people are not allowed to make a joke. Yeah. Or maybe he just never flubs a line. Maybe he's just that good. Maybe that's his secret. Imagine getting someone to wheel you to the bathroom when you don't have to.

Yeah. That's just. Anyways, Fast 10 News. Fast 10, you're butthole. Yeah. Okay. That's just. Anyways, Fast 10 news. Fast 10, you're butthole. You're butthole. Yeah. Okay. So Vin Diesel.

It could very easily become a line in the movie as well. That's right. I'm just saying. You're right. I mean, not for free. No. Obviously, I've TM. Which one of the sidekick characters would say it?

It couldn't be one of the serious ones. It'd be Tyrese. Yeah, it'd be Tyrese. That's right. I want to talk about him as well. Big Tyrese news this week, Mason. Oh, my goodness. I love you saw.

So Vin Diesel posted a photo with him and Brie Larson. Okay. And he said, yeah, yeah, yeah. You see this angel over my shoulder cracking me up? And you say to yourself, that's Captain Marvel. Clearly there is love and laughter in this image. What you don't see, however, is the character you will be introduced to in Fast 10, Your Butthole.

You have no idea how timeless and amazing she will be in our mythology. Beyond her beauty, her intellect, her Oscar, is this profound soul who will add something you might not have expected but yearned for. Welcome to the family, Brie. Family, all in caps. Incredible stuff. There you go. So Brie Larson, Fast 10, Your Butthole.

What role do you think she'll play in Fast Tenure Butthole? Probably a good person, I reckon. Oh, you reckon? Oh, do you reckon she'd play opposite a... Well, she's talking about beauty and profound and soul. That's not a villain, right? That sounds like a love interest, right? Yeah, but he's already got a love interest

who already came back from the dead. Yeah, right. Yeah. Maybe she's Paul Walker's other sister. Yeah. Yeah.'s Paul Walker's other sister. Yeah. Yeah. Or Paul Walker's daughter from like years behind. Another previous relationship. Yeah, another relationship, yeah.

Maybe. Yeah. So there you go. Yeah, it doesn't sound like villain, does it? No, not at all. They've already got Charlize Theron and Jason Momoa. Yeah. You know what I mean?

But they are running low on villains, I think. Yeah. But I guess this isn't a movie franchise about villains. This is a movie franchise about just building up the family. That's right. And we added John Cena from the last one, didn't we? Yeah, it's true, we did. And he was Vin Diesel's brother.

Vin Diesel has 79 million followers on Instagram. Does that make sense to you? Yes. Okay, good. Because you said it was a question. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Didn't you have one bit of news for this week, Mason?

I did have one bit of news. What have you got in terms of news? Well, in terms of news, this week Nicolas Cage did a Reddit AMA, an Ask Him Anything. It's funny you should say that, Mason, because we did a Nicolas Cage face-off commentary over at BigSandwich.co right now. That's right, we did, yeah.

If you want to check it out, yeah. Had a great deal of fun over there. We did. Good movie. I agree. Classic That's right, we did, yeah. If you want to check it out, yeah. Had a great deal of fun over there. We did. Good movie. I agree. Classic of the genre. Classic of the genre. But just some delightful answers.

Do you reckon he typed them himself? No, it looks like they're through the Lionsgate Reddit username. Oh, okay. And there's a little microphone, so I suspect he's dictating. Yes. He's dictating to somebody and they're writing it out. Somebody's asked, what is your dream role that you have yet to complete?

And he's replied, I would like to play Jules Verne's Captain Nemo because of the character's love of the ocean. I share that with him. Oh, very good. That's nice. That's a good answer. If only three of your films could be preserved for posterity,

which three would you choose? Face Off. No. Con Air. No. And Broken Arrow. It's not his, but he's a big fan. Yeah, just three films. Bringing Out the Dead, Pig, and Leaving Las Vegas are his Broken Arrow. It's not his, but he's a big fan. Yeah, just three films.

Bringing Out the Dead, Pig, and Leaving Las Vegas are his favourites. Bringing Out the Dead, is that the one where he's the ambulance driver? Yeah, the EMT. I don't think I've ever seen that. I still haven't seen Pig either. God damn it. Well, somebody's asked, they've decided to phrase their question as a statement. Okay.

Was it like, will you read my screenplay, Nicolas Cage? Yes. Not enough people saw Pig. It's an amazing film, et cetera. Here's a scene. Ben, he's like, will you read my screenplay, Nicolas Cage? Yes. Not enough people saw Pig. It's an amazing film, et cetera. Here's a scene. Ben, he's written, thank you. I was interested in returning to a more quiet, naturalistic style of film performance, having done a series of more operatic

performance styles. The movie feels rather like a folk song to me or a poem, and the character of Rob was contending with tremendous grief and self-imposed isolation, and I think we as a group of people experiencing a pandemic in 2020 to 2021 were probably also having similar feelings of loss and isolation, and it communicated to a nerve we were all experiencing. It's one of my favourite movies, and it's probably my best work.

Wow, you've seen that, haven't you? Yes. And it's very good? It is good. Would you put it up there with Con Air and Broken Arrow? No. Okay, good. But, yeah, I think a lot of people

were expecting kind of a um like a drive angry or some sort of weird revenge pick yeah yeah he just like well that's always that's how we start that's the kind of actor he is do you know what i mean like there's he does a lot of kind of i know he's known for his like big operatic performances also but he's you know he'll tone it down every now and then he'll put on a more serious wig you know and just get about town. Yeah. And someone has asked here, what's the movie quote you hate most when strangers holler at you in public?

And he says, I don't hate any of the quotes. I'm glad they remember the movie. Wow. That's nice. I'm going to quote the weatherman to him when I see him. Hey, nice weather. Man. Yeah.

Good. Someone's written, dear Mr Travolta, how has life changed for you since changing faces with Nicolas Cage? Do you regret the decision or would you do it again? And he said, ha ha ha, ha ha ha. That's good. And we talked about the sequel to Face Off as well in our commentary because apparently there's going to be one.

Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Mason, did you know Tyrese Gibson was tricked on the internet this week very publicly? Oh, no. Yeah. I was at the Martin Scorsese thing. Yeah, so basically there was a quote going around from Martin Scorsese

that said, who famously does not like comic book movies, right? He's come out and said it and he cops a lot of flack for it. But, you know, he's allowed to not like them. And that's fine. Yeah. He says, I was aghast to find out it was based on a comic book. This is about Morbius, of course. This is the truest height of cinema and even I cannot top it.

A wise man admits when he is wrong and I was wrong. I apologise to all comic book movies. So Tyrese Gibson screenshotted that. I don't feel bad about this. And he wrote, wow, wow, wow. I can't believe that this just happened. Whoa. Cheers and hats off to you, Daniel Espinosa, who is, of course, the director. This is so amazing, wow. I can't believe that this just happened. Whoa. Cheers and hats off to you, Daniel Espinosa,

who is, of course, the director. This is so amazing, King. This is the King of Kings of cinema, Martin Scorsese. This is huge. And he very promptly deleted that. So that- But nothing goes away on the internet, does it? Nothing does, unfortunately.

But yeah, you know, mate, he was in a rush and he probably saw it or whatever and he's just happy to get a bit of kudos, do you know what I mean? Because he didn't get to use his robot arm in that movie. He didn't get to use that robot arm. Very disappointing. I mean, we've seen some subsequent shots of the robot arm

and it looks very impressive. Does it? No. It's just like a little thing over his wrist. Yeah, it looks like some sort of arm guard you'd wear if maybe you sprained your arm. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. With some pipes and stuff hanging out of it.

With some pipes and stuff hanging out of it. They should have gone full steampunk and, like, made it brass with gears on it. I agree. And never explain it. Yeah. Someone has asked, Nicholas Cades, what's your favourite pasta shape? I once went to an Italian restaurant in San Francisco about 25 years ago

with Charlie Sheen because they had square tube pasta and he was very interested in trying square tube pasta. And we did and we loved it so much we went back the next day to try it again. That's fun. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Chalice Sheet is awful. But other than that, that's fun.

Yeah. There we go. Mason, thanks for bringing not one but two bits of news this week, which you had to do because you didn't bring a bit of news last week. Oh, that's right. That's the bit of news that I do not have. That's true. And now you've done it. So you're back up.

You're back on track. I've squared off the ledger. Okay, that's terrific. You can even get ahead some weeks if you want. I don't want to. What if during the course of the episode I just vaguely remember reading a thing? No, it depends what it is.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If I can find the source, does that count as a bit of news? Okay. Whether that counts as your bit of news. So we just saw the leaked images of the God Butcher, who is Christian Bale's character from the next Thor movie. And, of course, we saw it in the traditional manner of our people, which is some action figure reveals, some early release.

Exactly. They've fallen off the back of a truck and people have gone, okay, there he is. And he just looks like a weird white monk yeah and we got obviously there's multiple thaws in there there is uh there's um ravager thor yep with the with the leather vest and there's new look thor he's got a sort of a new symbol across his chest it's kind of blue and gold i wonder if that's nova Corps related. Okay, yeah, yeah. And then, of course, there's Mighty Thor, which is Jane Foster Thor. Exactly. And there's obviously a Groot and some other people in there.

There's a Star-Lord in there. There's a Valkyrie in there. Yeah, King Valkyrie, yeah. That's right. So, yeah, there's a bunch of things going on there. There's been a criticism of, like, this is not really much going on here in terms of, like, prosthetics or makeup or CGI. Okay.

Like, it just looks like Christian Bale with a shaved head mostly. Right, yeah, yeah. He's got a big sword and that's good. He's kind of got more of like sometimes like a squeaky kind of Voldemort-y kind of face. Yeah, or like what's that Dragon Ball Z guy? He's white and purple. White and purple?

Freezer. Freezer? Okay. Yeah, yeah. What vegetable is he? What vegetable is he? Yeah, Freezer. Eggplant because he's purple.

Why is his name Freezer then? Are they supposed to be vegetables? They're all supposed to be vegetables, like Broly is broccoli. Is he? We've definitely had this conversation. Yeah, also I don't know anything about him. What's Margin Boo? Margarine and poo.

He's pink. I don't know. That means you had to have done a bright red poo. You've eaten too many beets. Or you'll die. Yeah, well, you'll die. Sure. Yeah. Anyway, I, you'll die. Sure. Yeah.

Anyway, I don't think these are Dragon Ball Z villains. I'm pretty sure they are. I'm pretty sure they all are. They probably are. In fact, I remember a conversation where we had this conversation and you agreed with that, which suggests you weren't listening during that conversation. I don't think this action figure reveal doesn't really reveal anything

we didn't know beforehand. Like I think the new look Thor was on that reveal poster, which everybody thought was fake, but then it turned out to be real. That's true, it turned out to be, yeah. We know that Jane Foster is going to become Thor, so that's not really a surprise. We knew the Guardians were going to be in there in some capacity. Yes, yes, yes.

Apparently only the Saiyans are named after vegetables. So I guess like Vegeta, for example, Broly, yes, yes. Apparently only the Saiyans are named after vegetables. So I guess like Vegeta for example, Broly as you mentioned. So yeah, there are so some are. That's what I thought and what I said. And I already knew that. Okay.

That doesn't count as your one bit of news. Okay, but is Freezer an eggplant? Is he a Saiyan? He doesn't say. He's not a Saiyan. Oh. He's a something else. Oh, terrific. Yeah. Did you like the segment of the show? What's RDJ up to? Yeah. What are you up to?

You made that movie about animals and whatever that people know. Oh, I think I know what this is. Yeah. What is it? So it's my one bit of news. He's trying to put together a Sherlock Holmes TV universe. Is that right? He is.

That's right. So in addition to Sherlock Holmes 3, which is on the way, because he didn't slap anybody at the Oscars, a variety have said that two spin-off shows are in the works and they're going to be starring characters introduced in Sherlock Holmes 3. Now, there hasn't been a Sherlock Holmes movie since 2009. That's right.

It's been a long time coming. I remember those movies a bit. I remember big Victorian wheels and cogs and punching people in your mind and whatever. Oh, a lot of slow motion mind punching, certainly. Yeah. I think it's probably about time that this could come back because I got over the TV show and now we're here. You know what I mean? So that's what Robert Downey Jr. is up to this week. That's terrific. And in addition to that, if we're talking Marvel, Mason, which we are, Fandango are here and they're telling us that they spoke to Sam Raimi

and they asked him about Spider-Man 4. Okay. And he said, I've come to realise after making Doctor Strange that anything is possible, really anything in the Marvel universe, any team-ups. I love Toby. I love Kirsten Dunst. I love all the things that are possible.

I don't really have a story or a plan. I don't know if Marvel would be interested in that right now. I don't know what their thoughts are about that. I haven't really pursued that, but it sounds beautiful. Even if it wasn't a Spider-Man movie, I'd love to work with Toby again in a different role. There you go. But he has to go through Sony to do that, not Marvel.

That's true. An absolute nightmare. Which is a whole other smorbtuation. Smorbtuation. You've got to put in Morbius somehow. Absolutely. An absolute nightmare. Which is a whole other smorbtuation. Smorbtuation. You've got to put in Morbius somehow. Absolutely. You have to justify paying Jared Leto $15 million probably. Oh, you think they wouldn't do it?

They wouldn't do a Spider-Man 4 without Jared Leto. I don't know, man. I think. He's made some waves, hasn't he? He's made some waves. He's really made his imprint on Spum. We're talking about him. We're talking about him, you know.

The Sony Pictures Universe of Marvel movie Spum. Exactly. Here's another question Nicholas Cage answered. Who is a director you'd like to work with? I would love to work with Christopher Nolan. Oh, Nolan. I would love to work with Ari Aster. I don't know who that is.

I'll look that up. I would love to work Ari Aster, A-R-I, A-S-T-E-R. I would love to work with Robert Eggers, Spike Lee 2. Okay. So Robert Eggers did The Lighthouse and so on and so forth. Oh, very good. Ari Aster did, he did Hereditary Midsommar. Oh, okay, right, okay.

Well, that's kind of Cage's wheelhouse now. Yeah, absolutely. Some creepy horror stuff. I wonder if Nolan will put him in because he's just so distinct. You know what I mean? Like he likes to, not always, but he likes to hire like pretty low key. You know what I mean? Has Nolan set in his ways as far as casting goes now?

No, he hired Josh Peck apparently for Oppenheimer. Oh, yeah, and Josh Hartnett. Josh Hartnett as well. Very good. He's up to the Js. Well, Josh Hartnett was supposed to be Batman. Apparently he wanted, it was his first choice. Okay.

And Josh Hartnett turned it down. to be Batman, apparently he wanted, it was his first choice. Okay. Choice. And Josh Hartnett turned it down. Oh. And Josh Hartnett regrets that because he was like, well, he wasn't just asking me, like, to be Batman. He wanted to work with me on, like, a number of things. I see. And I wish I had have done that. You know what I mean?

I think he would have been a terrific Batman. Yeah. Josh Hartnett. But so there. I'm glad they're friends again, Mason. Speaking of Star Wars. Were we? Yes.

Okay, terrific. Before the show we were because we're doing the prequel movies for Caravan of Garbage this week. Now I just want to give everybody the heads up here. They're super long. The first one is 36 minutes. The second one is going to be even longer. Oh, my goodness.

But because they're so long, we're spacing them out over two weeks. So what's going up this week instead is a video game Star Wars one even longer. Oh, my goodness. But because they're so long, we're spacing them out over two weeks. So what's going up this week instead is a video game Star Wars one instead. It wasn't meant to be a trick. It's going to look like we tricked you. Yes. But the only reason it's this way is because it's just – A little more time to edit. And I was talking to Ben about this and he wanted to be involved

in all of them and also get them a bit early because he's going away for a week and Lawrence is also helping obviously. But I thought, oh, well, then if they're double the length, then I need something in between. So I guess what I could do is do something in between and record video game footage. That's right. For some reason in my mind I'm like, that will be easier.

But that's like, it's not easier, Mason. Yes. It turns out that it's harder. Yeah. But anyway, that's right. For some reason in my mind I'm like, that will be easier. But that's like, it's not easier, Mason. It turns out that it's harder. But anyway, that's happening. So it's going to be this week Phantom Menace video game, then the real movie next week, then Clone Wars video game, then the real movie. So the next six weeks is going to be all Star Wars all the time. Nice.

What I'm doing now is not a trick. Or is it? You've done more for smaller reveals. You've done more for smaller reveals. Exactly. You've done more elaborate set up for less of an impact. Yeah. Yeah, you're right.

So last bit of news though. So Ezra Miller, we talked about this last week, a bit of hot water, Mason. Bit of hot water. We talked about last week how they broke into somebody's apartment, threatening, stealing, calling names, murder, all of these kinds of things. And now they've been banned from the Oscars for 10 years.

That's not the case. But so that's what's been going on there. Obviously they need help, clearly having some kind of mental health crisis and all of those things. But Warner Brothers and DC obviously had to do something at some point about this because it's not the first incident and apparently they had an emergency meeting concerning Ezra Miller and the consensus was hitting pause on any of their future projects including appearances in

future DC properties so the flash was already done so people there was a big push this week to get Grant Gustin to replace a big push by by who? These Nets. Oh, yes. And it can be done. Like, we've seen it happen. It happened in. Yeah, Tig Notaro. Yeah, but I just, I don't know. I don't think, I think what they will probably do is still put it out

and put Ezra, like, away from any of the marketing, like they're doing from Fantastic Beasts. Yeah, I think, look, honestly, what I think they would do, Warner Brothers, is release The Flash, the movie The Flash, and see if it does well. And if it does well, they'll just ride that out for a while and see how much they can sweep under the rug and then re-evaluate after that. Because obviously they've put in so much time and money

and effort into this thing and it keeps getting delayed and this feels like maybe, okay, we'll push this out and then we'll unpause Ezra Miller's career if this does really well and makes a lot of money. I think like you said, though, they'll probably pivot this whole thing into Batman-centric and Supergirl's in it as well. And if there are going to be spinoffs or sequels, it'll probably be related to that.

Yeah. Because that's how I'd imagine the things that people, well, that's why I want to go as well. Like I want to see Michael Keaton again. Yes. Like outside of that, I'm like I'm not super interested in it. There's only so much joy you can derive out of Michael Keaton being like, hey, that must have been something to do with Spider-Man.

I got a lot of joy out of that. And also the Flash shoot, which shot three to four years ago, it was fraught with drama, not with yelling and violent outbursts, but apparently Ezra had frequent meltdowns and would get a thought in their head and say, I don't know what I'm doing. Now that could just be like I'm carrying a major franchise by myself. Millions of dollars are on the line. And I'm playing multiple versions of myself and, you know,

and Michael Keaton's here and maybe that's, maybe Michael Keaton was putting them off their game, you know. Maybe it's Michael Keaton's fault. That's what you said to me before the show. I did say that. It's true. So, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think sets are always fraught with drama.

I don't necessarily, I mean, they're not hitting people on the set. You know what I mean? True. If they're being just wheeled around in a wheelchair being annoying, then that's fine apparently, isn't it? But apparently though, they spoke to IGN, the people at Warner Brothers in DC and said no such meeting took place and the report of this was an exaggeration.

So it's good to know that the official word from Warner Brothers in DC is just nah, we're not doing anything. You're exaggerating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's also interesting that somebody has decided to make up a. I don't think it's made up. I think something happened. Oh, you think.

I don't know what it is. Okay. But there's no way they couldn't have this conversation. Yeah. Yeah. Like when the Chris Rock and Will Smith thing happened, I saw an apology from Chris Rock, allegedly. thing happened, I saw an apology from Chris Rock, allegedly. But then it turned out just a Chris Rock fan had written their apology and attempted to pass it off as Chris Rock's apology. Why? I don't know. People on the internet. People on the internet.

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That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Wow, we're back. It's Harry Potter time yet again. Wow. Which has now become our least favorite time of the year. Or every three years. When do these happen? I don't know.

When was the last one? 2018, I want to say? All I know is we've got the Fantastic Beasts movies. We still have two Harry Potter movies to watch to round out the septilogy. Yeah, and look. J.K. Rowling sucks. Yeah. I'm just baffled by her commitment to this like.

Commitment to the bit. To the bit of like. Being a trans part. I just don't understand. I don't get it Commitment to the bit. To the bit of like... Being a trans part. I just don't, I don't understand. Like I just, I don't get it. Like it's just kind of baffling. And it also kind of ruins so much of this universe and the good people,

because there are good people associated with these. And like we did talk about like, do we even want to watch these movies anymore? Do we want to talk about them? We did receive a little bit of correspondence from people mostly by Twitter being like, you know, you could just ignore it. And we could.

And I'm here to say. I'm not here to say kind things. No, about this. Yeah, I would say I'm going to justify this in our mind by saying us two, two people, we watched it and we are probably, I don't know, I don't know what's in your heart, James, but I'm probably going to say you don't have to see this one. Absolutely not.

If you're out there, you're on the phone, and I think that is our public service to people. We've taken the hit here just to say if you were expecting a big jump in terms of quality or. I mean, I think it's better than the last one, but I, yeah, you know, but that's not. Yeah, if we can convince tens of thousands of people to perhaps not see this movie, then I think our purchase is justified

and we can write it off on our tax returns. Exactly. So. Which is perfect. Yeah. So, yeah, speaking of cost, I guess. Yeah, I mean. First of all, the bloody time it took me to bloody watch this movie.

Look, I think there's a big discussion to be had on why that particular island produces so many weird transphobes. Yeah, and it seems to be like baked into a lot. And it's the same here, to be fair. Like there's a lot of that here and it's baked into like the culture and the law, you know what I mean? Yeah, and I don't think we're, I mean maybe one day we'll talk about it, but I don't think we're necessarily qualified to talk about it beyond

the idea that I think once people reach a certain level of like wealth and power and influence, I think they stop interrogating their own thoughts because they're like, well, I got here. Because I'm great. Every time I had a chance to make a choice, I made the correct choice because the other alternative is you go insane. Like imagine if you lived in a council house and like you didn't know where your money was going to come from. And then like a couple of decades later, you literally live in

a castle, a medieval castle because you have so much money. If you were to be like, oh, if I went to a meeting with a book publisher and they didn't like what I did, or if I like gave away the film rights for a couple of grand or something, I'd still be there right now. You'd go insane. So the easiest choice is to just be like, I'm not a qualified psychiatrist, by the way. You're not? I'm not.

I'm not actually. I'm just going to shut this down then if you don't mind. Okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We need content. We need to pad this episode. But like I think you just go, well, if I thought about that, I'd go completely insane. Yeah.

So it's better to think like no no i'm always right all the time and also you're surrounded by people who are always just like oh yeah that's actually great yeah you should write that article you're actually doing a service you're actually saying things that people are afraid to say and as to why they have that particular thought i don't know i don't get it and i don't understand like the idea that like having trans people and accepting them and you you know, making it part of the community and making it the norm, like that doesn't undercut any other movement. I don't think it undercuts anything about, you know,

feminism or anything else, John. I mean, all of these things can exist because the real villain is capitalism. Oh, wait. It's Grindelwald. Grindelwald, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to get some capitalism nerds coming after me, Matt. I'll tell you what.

I'm not going to get any Grindelwald fans after me because they know. They know he's the bad guy. That's why they love him. Yeah. But I think it's just like it's keeping the status quo. It's powers that be keeping things the way that they want them, the way that they are. Anyways, this movie cost $175 to $200 million, Mason.

Wow. It doesn't open in the U.S., but it is open in the U.K., Australia, Germany, Spain, Japan, and China. They reckon it's going to make about $50 million, Mason. Wow. It doesn't open in the US, but it is open in the UK, Australia, Germany, Spain, Japan, and China. They reckon it's going to make about $50 million for the weekend. That was bigger than Morbius. Sure, and that's also lower than the last one. Did you feel any? Oh, just before, I just wanted to get these out,

Borbius and Snorbius. That's good. They were in the back of my mind. I caught them in Pokemon Go, Mason. Oh, you caught yourself a Snorbius? I did, thank you. Yeah, did you feel any of, before I I caught them in Pokemon Go, Mason. Oh, you caught yourself a Snobius? I did. Thank you. Yeah, did you feel any of, before I ask you what you think the story was.

You're going to set me up that little trap where you trap me and ask me what the story is. Did you feel any kind of hype or anticipation? I know like we were not interested in this. Yes, correct. But did you get a sense of like a big marketing push? No. I haven't seen much of this. I remember when the first Fantastic Beasts came out,

a movie that I remember quite liking at the time, I didn't go back and rewatch these, which I maybe needed to because I was a bit confused for some of this. But I think that's baked into the plot of this. Absolutely. But I just didn't feel like there's any sense of wonder and awe and anticipation for this anymore. No, no, no.

I think that ship has sailed. There was more for that HBO Max special about the original movies. What do you think the story was though? Okay, so when we last left our heroes, James, they were trying their best to stop the villain from stopping World War II and the Holocaust. I remember that. It had to happen.

So by the transitive properties of that, they were trying to make sure that the World War II and the Holocaust were going to happen. So by the transitive properties of that, they were trying to make sure that the World War II and the Holocaust were going to happen. Yeah. And also some people had, Jacob and Queenie had split apart due to like very, very. She goes with Grindelwald. Yeah, but there was like a very, very.

There was a reason? There was a very clear ideological like split there and it was very important to Queenie that she – like it was a real – just a real – you know, it was a choice she had to make. You know, this decision was more important than love to her. Yeah. And – God, you've got a good memory.

God, the weird – the zoologist guy, he was in love probably. Yep. And his brother was there. Yep. And Dumbledore was there. And his brother was there. Yep. And Dumbledore was there. Dumbledore was there. Yeah. Anyway, in this movie they've basically soft rebooted it.

Yeah. Because clearly they went, yeah, it actually is weird that Grindelwald does want to make sure World War II doesn't happen. And do you know what it is, I think? Yes. So the last movie was written exclusively by J.K. Rowling, right? She's obviously out of hand in all of these, but that one in particular was just hers. And it became very complicated

and law-heavy, and I remember close to the last scene was somebody coming in and telling their origin story, and then the next person went in and said, well, I also have an origin story. Which is what happens in the books. They come into the rooms, and they explain things to each other, right? Which works in a book, right? And

so Sean's got this video, I don't know if you've seen it, about the Harry Potter franchise. So Sean the YouTuber. The breadtube YouTuber. Not our friend Sean. Not our friend Sean. Yes, we do not know him. Where he basically talks about how each book is kind of,

it's a book behind in terms of reactions to any criticisms or plot holes. Okay, right. For example, the slavery element of the elves. Like they mention it in book two. I don't think it's mentioned in three and then they come back around to it in book four. And then in book four they're like, well, actually they like being slaves. Yeah, because there's that delay.

The book comes out and people go, hey, what about this? And then they go, oh, they, I mean J.K. Rowling, goes to the next book that explains the thing that happened. So there's a one book delay. And I think that's kind of what happens here. And you know it's like the sign of a great franchise when the first 30 minutes is just explaining shit that's already happened yeah which look i appreciate it because i didn't know what the fuck was happening like i'd forgotten so much of this but i think it's partially your memories haven't held up but also partially

because they have tweaked it like in this one grind, Grindelwald, he's just vaguely bad. Yeah. Like he just wants to kill everybody. He kills a baby in the last one, I remember. Yeah, and in this he's just, in this one he had, in the last one he had a motive which didn't jive with, you know, reality. Sure. But in this one he's just like, oh, Grindelwald wants to get power

so then he can kill all the humans and then all the wizards are also going to die. And he's going to be the president. He's going to be the president also. There's a president of all wizards? Is that a thing? I don't know. It doesn't matter.

But also in this one, there's this vague vibe that Queenie, who in the last one went, I believe in this cause and I'm going to leave. In this one, she's just like, it's just like she's a hostage. Yeah. And there's never any moment where she goes, oh, I left you because I felt this way or I believe this and now I've changed my mind. Yeah. And there's never any moment where she goes, oh, I left you because I felt this way or I believe this and now I've changed my mind.

Yeah. And now I'm stuck here and I need to find a way to escape. It's just like, oh, I think I made a bad decision and I shouldn't be here, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I appreciated them explaining,

like catching me up on what they thought the story was this time around. And I guess there's also, because we've revisited more of Hogwarts, and, look, I genuinely think that Jude Law is a fantastic choice for Dumbledore. I like his little outfits. I like just everything that he's doing. Yeah.

He still hasn't, like, there's no evidence yet that he's switching over to comfortable wizard robes yet. He's still wearing the suits. No, no. What is going on there? Well, he's wearing, like, a knitted vest from time to time. Maybe that's the over to comfortable wizard robes yet. He's still wearing the suits. No, no. What is going on there? Well, he's wearing like a knitted vest from time to time. Maybe that's the gateway drug to big robes. He's hands down the best Dumbledore in all of these movies.

Yeah. What was I also going to say? Well, we could talk about how they actually address that he's gay. Like they say it. Do they? Or not the word, but they say that I was in love. The essential word. They don't say the essential word.

We were in love and we made this unbreakable bond because we love each other and we had a relationship, et cetera. I don't know if they do say that, though. I mean, they say it more than they've ever done before. I know, but I think they'd say, oh, there was a love. There was so much love. Oh, you might be right. And it's like if you want, like I feel like they're not committing

because you could very easily go, oh, the love of two great friends and they grew up together and they had great adventures. Isn't there a love there? There's certainly a love there. You wanted them to do a big kiss. I wanted them to do a big kiss and they never did. In this franchise you don't care about. I don't like or care about.

Yeah, I think that's... There's a moment at the start and I guess we'll do more. Burn this whole thing down, I say. Well, I want to talk about the future of this. But there's a moment at the start, I think it's at the very start, where Dumbledore meets up with Grindelwald and we'll talk about the recast, I want to talk about the future of this. But there's a moment at the start, I think it's at the very start, where Dumbledore meets up with Grindelwald, and we'll talk about the recast, I guess, and they have a discussion about how they're old friends

and maybe they're in lava or whatever, and they've got an unbreakable bond together. Did he have that unbreakable thing in the last one? Yes, he did, yes. Okay, great. And then they all return to their worlds or whatever. It didn't really happen, or it's a a memory or they're meeting in their minds. What was that?

Yeah. What is it? I don't know, James, because they go to this particular cafe, I guess, in London or maybe it's Magical London, but I don't think, I think it's just regular. It's regular London because they refer to the muggles and they're like, look, they get a load of these muggles or whatever. These twerps.

And they're like, delightful, this, the good tea is here or whatever. So it's clearly a real place. Okay. But then they have the meeting and then Grindelwald leaves and then the entire place is engulfed in flames. Yeah. And it's entirely vague as to was that illusory flames? Yeah.

Were they? Did they go to a cafe and burn it down together? Right, exactly, yeah. So what I think this. Is it supposed to not matter? Yeah, it is supposed to not matter well good what what i just what i think i took away from this movie is that this in terms of course correction this one was designed to soft reboot to get rid of any of the plot uh holes in the last one and also this also this was a movie designed to tie up all the loose ends and just in case this is the last one and they don't do four and five.

They're just like, okay, tie all this off, give some people a sort of happy ending for the various things. Let's get it back to a status quo. Yes. Whereas if we don't do two more, nobody will mind really. Or we could launch into an even bigger thing. Yeah. But you know what this did?

What this movie made me feel was sad that they didn't turn this franchise into what it probably should have been, which is just a bin fire. Well, a bin fire, but just like a weird goof who loves magical creatures just getting into little adventures and going around the world and going, oh, I'm going to meet these creatures. And, oh, no, there's poachers, and I've got to defeat the poachers for these brave little animals, and they can't save them. Small scale.

Small scale. Like there was elements of this where I go, oh, it's a little bit Indiana Jones. Yeah. And, you know, they're going down. I like all these little creatures. Yeah. I like how he fights a big scorpion in a big scorpion jail.

You know, exactly. He's going down to weird catacombs and all this sort of stuff and he has to use his knowledge of scorpion spider creatures to sneak his way through. He's got all this knowledge and stuff and I thought that was a lot of fun. Yep. And that's what these movies should have been, but clearly they went, okay, well, we actually need a world-shattering saga

to bring people along. I think, like, ideally what they should have done is, like, do that. Yes. And then you've got all these established characters and you do three, like, fun little fantastic whatever adventures and then you're like, and now we're doing the Holocaust World War II movies. Yeah.

Or don't do those at all, maybe. It might be even the wiser decision would be. But I kind of feel like they went, okay, well. Because might be even the wiser decision would be. But I kind of feel like they went, okay, well. Because you could carry a bunch of people over into that and then you're building a wizarding war based on some of the characters you know. Yeah, exactly. Like you meet Dumbledore and you meet whatever.

Yeah, but I think with this movie they went, okay, well we've got Newt and his brother and they don't really get along and we've got Dumbledore and Grindelwald and they have this pact and it's going to end in their destruction. We have to get rid of that because obviously they don't have it in the future. And Jacob and Queenie, we like Jacob and Queenie and they got split up in the last one. So we've got to get them back together and et cetera.

Let's tie all that off and then we'll end it. Also, we should put in a magical horse which chooses the president. Oh, there should be a magical horse. Is that in spoilers? I don't think it matters. There's a few other things, I guess, before we do full-on spoilers. Isn't it lucky that he was investigating? Isn't it lucky that Newt was investigating the magical horse

that can determine who the president is? And then it just came up in the plot, you know? What are the odds of all the magical creatures, the presumably thousands of species of magical creatures? I assume he was keeping an eye on it because he knew, like they all knew that. Oh, because it could choose the president. I guess.

So Dumbledore has a plan because he can't move against Grindelwald. Because of the magical charm. Because of the magical charm. Which does a vague thing. If you even think about moving against Grindelwald, the charm which is around his arm really squeezes him. Gives him a big tug. Yeah.

Yeah. But it's strange because so he sets up a random plan in motion to confuse Grindelwald who's. He can see the future. He can see the future because the magical president is choosing horse. One of them. There's two of them. And so that's fine to move vaguely.

That works apparently. And so you can trick the charm into doing certain things. And I get, look, okay, this is an absolute fucking minefield of a franchise at this point. They've obviously recast as Mads Mikkelsen. He did pretty good, I guess. You know what I mean? Didn't commit to any method acting.

Pretty low key. To his credit. Because like he said, what if it's a bad film and you method acted? Oh, yeah, also, like i like the actor who plays jacob i think he's good and i think they're a good combo but it's fascinating they went and i guess this is a spoiler but it's like the first 10 minutes uh he's just he's sad and he and he works in his bakery and the bakery has had better days because he's so sad because queenie left him for very important ideological reasons that don't matter anymore yeah and so but what happens is he sees a woman outside his bakery being harassed by some toughs yeah he goes out and he's like hey you leave leave that lady alone what have you and then it turns out that she is a witch and the

toughs of her friends and they're pretending yeah and then she says well what we need in this battle between omnipotent wizards is just a regular guy who's willing to stand up for for what's right who was in the other movies i don't think you need him at all i don't surely there are men and women out there who want to stand up for what's right who also have vast magical powers that might be actually more useful absolutely as opposed to just a guy who can run around and be like, Newt, look out! Look out! Yeah, I mean, I guess maybe you could get him to distract Queenie because they have a mind-reading woman, I guess. That was the idea.

But, yeah, it's very strange. I also found this movie so strange in comparison to, like, the original Harry Potters is because oftentimes the villain and the good guys, they're all just in the same conference room, just sitting across from each other at different tables. And it just seems like the stakes are too high and he's murdered too many children for any of this to be okay at this point. Yeah, right.

You know, where they're just like, yeah, people want him to be the president, so he's the president. And I guess the parallel could be we've had multiple world leaders who are known killers look this or sexual deviants this this has become look i think we're well into spoiler territory at this point spoilers i don't think it matters anymore okay but so the plot the crux of the plot is that there needs to be a new magical president in order to determine the direction that the wizarding world goes? Are they going to help humanity?

Are they going to destroy humanity, et cetera? They need the chillin'. Yeah, so ordinarily that's a vote. There's just a vote between, I guess, important magical politicians. I think everybody can vote though, right? They put their wands in the air or something. That's true. There's a lot of firing fireworks out of your wand in celebrational rage or whatever.

I don't know. It doesn't matter. But anyway, but it turns out that the traditional way of determining who the president is in olden times is there is a creature called a chillen, which looks like a little deer, and it is pure of heart, and it can see if somebody is pure of heart. Even if they killed their sister. Yeah, and it just sort of – and it will – you get one,

and it just sort of wanders it will, you get one and it just sort of wanders around and then it finds the person with the most pure of heart and it kneels to them and you go, hooray, it's the president. We already had a kneeling magical creature. Was it one of the Harry Potter movies? Was it? The hypocrite or something. Oh, I did see that one.

Yeah. I don't think that one shows the president though. I think this is the horse that chooses the president. So what happened was at the start of the movie, Newt is – because you need a newborn one. So Newt was supervising the birth of a new chillin' and then the bad guys come in. It was just chillin' there, wasn't it? Yes, very good.

And they zap Newt and they take the chillin' away and their plan is to kill the – Mads Mikkelsen's plan is to kill the chillin'. Is their plan not to kill Newt, to just leave him there? They just leave Newt there so he can't use his magical expertise later. Yeah. They just want to stun him for a bit. And Mads Mikkelsen's plan is to kill the Chilling that he has acquired and then use his wizarding powers to bring it back as like an undead one

that has been. And use his blood to see the future. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, which he can also do anyway. I think the blood, can he? I don't know. I mean, he's got the big, the war's coming powers to see the future. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, which he can also do anyway. I think the blood, can he? I don't know. I mean, he's got the big, the war's coming powers, doesn't he? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I don't think it is. Yeah, you're right.

But anyway, so his plan is to be exonerated for all the crimes he's already done. Yep. And they're like, that's fine. There wasn't enough evidence. I mean, we saw him do a lot of murders and escape from that jail. He's too vague. Also, you know how Voldemort's symbol was like a skull

with a snake coming out of it? Yeah, yeah. This guy's just like three letters in a green symbol, and I'm like, what's that? Like a monster energy drink. Yeah, that's what it looks like, and it's not distinct. Do you know what I mean? That is true.

A skull with a snake coming out of it, very clear. Anyway, they're like, well, okay, we're going to exonerate him because there was no evidence despite all the eyewitnesses and all the evidence and all the newspaper articles. He killed all those people in that room. He killed the woman who, wait, what was the woman who turned into a snake? Negri or something?

Yeah. In the last one. Remember, not in this one. No. Did she turn into a snake? Yeah, because isn't she in the Harry Potter movies proper, like the main franchise? I mean, it's the snake, but not the woman.

But there was no snake woman in this one. No, that's true. There was no snake woman. But there was no snake woman in this one. No, that's true. There was no snake woman. But I guess where I'm going with this is, so his plan, he gets exonerated for all his crimes, and then there's normally two candidates to be the president, and he shows up and he's like, I'll be the third candidate, and this creature that I've brought in will kneel to me

and show that I am the purest of heart. First of all, why would anyone believe that? It's a magical universe. Exactly. Anything can be anything. You could turn a chair into the magical horse that chooses the president. You could turn a pedophile into a rat and then be like, well, that rat is actually, he shows his pure of heart and he'll bow to me

and I'll become the president or whatever. Because that's what happened in the rat movie when the guy turned into the rat. Yeah. Exactly. Why would you believe it? It's not like it's a, they're not the main, like the chancellor or whoever who's like,

I'm going to figure out, you know, how the president is. He doesn't run a test. He didn't bring his own one in. He just was like, oh, yeah, we'll use yours then, shall we? He's obviously a bad guy. They don't run a test. He didn't bring his own one in. He just was like, oh, yeah, we'll use yours then, shall we? He's obviously a bad guy. They don't run the test. They don't have a scanning spell. Anything, right?

Exactly. Oh, this thing's obviously dead. Also, it's grey. It's obviously died and come back. But then it turns out that. There's two chillens. Yeah, the old chillen actually, before it died, it actually gave birth to a second chillen.

So Newt Scamander has that. And then the big finale is. You've got to get the real chillen actually, before it died, it actually gave birth to a second chillen. So Newt Scamander has that. And then the big finale is... You've got to get the real chillen to pick the president. Yeah. And then the real chillen's like, well, actually, Dumbledore, you're the best one. Which is ridiculous because the whole point of Dumbledore, and even Dumbledore himself knows this,

is that he sucks, right? Initially, before all of this, and he talks about it in this movie, he's like, I want to do the same thing as Grindelwald. I want to kill all the humans and be the president of all the humans or whatever. And in the later movies, he takes Harry Potter and he basically raises him to be slaughtered by Voldemort.

Why would it pick him? Because he's one of the main guys. Exactly. His name's in the title. If anything, it would bow to, like, Newt, if anything. Yeah, right. You know? It doesn't make any sense.

It doesn't make any sense. Yeah. Pretty cool, though, right? Yeah, I mean, I guess he was self-aware enough to just be like, no. Yeah. No, no, not me. I'm actually a bad guy and you're a very unwise creature. This is ridiculous.

Ezra Miller's in this, as we've mentioned. Yeah. But again, I think they were like, we've got to sand the edges off this character. Before he was just this murderous whirlwind of death. Death and debris. And it's like, you're part of the Dumbledores and they abandoned you. You're Dumbledore's brother, Ezra Miller. And it's just you want revenge, but in this one Dumbledore's just like,

oh, yeah, we actually didn't know. Yeah. So that's fine. And Ezra Miller's character's like, well, I guess that's fine. Yeah. And also I can't wait for that character to die off screen in between movies if they ever get one. Yeah. Oh, because his power has overwhelmed him or something.

Yeah, and then because he goes with his dad, but then you don't need to see him again because the bird that knows that you're dying is following him around. Ah, the phoenix. Which, by the way, I would hate that. Same, yeah. I'd be like, can you give me like a ballpark, like a week or a month, six months?

Yeah. Come on, man. Absolutely. I just want to quickly get back to the scorpion jail. Okay. It's a funpark? Yeah. Like a week or a month, six months? Yeah. Come on, man. Absolutely. Yeah. I just want to quickly get back to the scorpion jail. Okay. It's a fun sequence. Yes.

So Newt's brother, who's a big nerd, an even bigger button-down nerd. Oh, just before I forget, and I was going to mention it before, this is unrelated, but remember when, I think in the first one. Probably in Oppagon. No, you'll remember this. Do you remember the first one where Newt and his girlfriend, on-off girlfriend character, they don't follow the rules in the vaguest possible way and they're like,

we're going to sentence you to death. We're going to dissolve you in this room. We're going to put you in the acid room. But anyway, we're also going to jail Grindelwald, the worst mass murderer, wizard, killer of them all. Yes. What is this? What is this universe?

It's strange because that speaks to the jail thing. So when they're all in the same room hanging out and Newt's brother gets captured and put in a prison because we need the prison sequence. Yeah. Because the German wizards, the German wizard cops. The jizzards. Yes, thank you.

They are corrupt, I think, or they're working for Grindelwald and they zap him. So they put him in the jail. Yeah. But Newt turns up and he goes, I'm here to see my brother, and he gives him a little light bee in a jar. Yeah. And he has to leave all his magical stuff.

Yeah. And I thought he was going to visit him and then bust him out. Yeah. But with that jail, could he just, you just walk in and grab someone? Is that, like, was he being released? Oh. Do you know what I mean? Oh, I see.

Because that wasn't a jail break, was it? Or was it not? You mean what was, what was. What did the guy running the jail think was happening there? Oh. Was he like, you've come to visit your brother? I think it was a visit thing, yeah. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Because I was not. But it was very vague. Yeah. But it's sort of this open air jail where you're just sort of hung upside down. Yep. And it's filled with scorpions. But if your light goes out, the big scorpion kills you.

There's also a giant scorpion that can, it's a scorpion spider creature that can like shoot fireballs. And acid and stuff. And it's got a big stinger and it just eats the inmates? Yeah. Like, have they been put in the – is it an actual jail or is it a place to put food for the –

Like a torture room? Yeah. I don't know. But anyway, so Newt goes in there and he distracts the big creature and because of his knowledge of magical zoology, he knows that if you pretend to be a scorpion, they will like... They love that. They love that, and they will not eat you.

So there's a funny sequence where they both have to pretend to be scorpions and they escape, and that's fun. And they're in little coats. Newt looks like a little Doctor Who fellow, doesn't he? He does, doesn't he? He's always looked like a little Doctor Who fellow. Yeah, exactly. I think that's probably because...

Well, Doctor Who would have been huge when. Yeah, probably 2015 or whatever. I mean, not Harry Potter movie huge. Sure. But if you're trying to build a new franchise. You're going for that Matt Smith kind of energy. Yeah, if you're basing you, if you need a new character, because Newt was not, Fantastic Beasts is not a novel, right? It's a.

No, I mean. It's like a guidebook. It's a reference. It's a reference book. So they were like building a new character and I think they probably went, yeah, Doctor Who's cool. He's got a little bow tie and that's fun and is, you know. Yeah.

He's got a little case. Don't open that case, by the way. Yeah. Also in this, speaking of cases. Yep. There's a, in some scenes the case has legs now. Yep. But sometimes it doesn't.

Yeah. And they have to get the case to the top of the mountain so the horse can put the precedent. Because it's got the chilling in it. But it's like, okay, we'll break up and we'll go into different, you know, we'll all take a fake case. So there's a scene where Newt's assistant, she goes to a place that makes copies of things and she says,

I need. Not a magical place. Was it not? I think it was a, because she's like, don't open this. I think it was a regular tailor, like leatherette man. Okay, and she says, okay, I need six, I need half a dozen copies of this case. Yep.

And then in the later scenes, there are five cases, one of which is the real case and four of which are fake cases, and all the main cast grab a case yeah and then it's then they go into this city square and sort of play a shell game situation and the whole time i'm like okay well if there's one real case and newt's assistant went to get six fake cases that means there's seven cases. And we've only seen five cases. So at some point the other shoe's going to drop and a character we've seen before might show up and you'd be like, oh, we've got all the cases.

And then you'd go, oh, but there's two more cases and here's the big reveal. And actually we tricked you and I'd go, oh, that's very clever. But there was only ever five cases. I guess the main guy, I guess the leather-worky guy could only make four cases. They did it at a violent the next day or whatever. Yeah, I guess he could only make four cases. Also, like at a violin the next day or whatever. Yeah, I guess he could only make four cases.

Also, like if you need to get up that mountain. Fly? Teleport. Teleport. Don't look the way that you do because they all know what you look like. Make the case look like something else. Sure. Like it's just strange.

It's not like magic doesn't work on that mountain because it does. It does. Because we're all shooting each other with magic. Yeah, but I just also, so the moment where I made this note in the cinema where the horse is picking the president. Folks, I'm making a note in the cinema to rubbish this film on a podcast. You can try and stop me, but you don't want to. But it picks the president so fucking slow.

Like, oh, my God, just get on with it. And while we're doing that, it's nice of, like, the Katherine Watterson character to not show up and then watch the horse pick the president on TV or whatever in America. So that's Newt's on again, off again. Yes. Girlfriend. Who's been mostly dropped from the franchise.

And I looked into this because I'm like, what has happened here? Yeah, because they've sort of gone. She's the lead character in this. Anyway, I found an answer, but sorry, go on. So Newt in the movies has this American aura. What happened here? Yeah, because they've sort of gone. She's the lead character in this. Anyway, I found an answer, but sorry, go on. So Newt in the movies has this American aura. Yeah, yeah. So she's an American magic cop and they bonded when they nearly got atomized in that acid pit for filling in the wrong paperwork or whatever

in the first movie. But then in the second one I think isn't shet has a, like a, he's in a photo with a woman and she thinks that he is. I don't know. Yeah. There's a, there's, she sees a newspaper article in which the photo has been taken with him and another woman. And she thinks that he is not taking their relationship seriously.

So they break up or whatever. Oh, and nothing reason. And nothing reason. And like a, like a post-it note reason. Yeah. And then I think they get back together, but in this one, yeah, she's just not in it. And there's also, but there's also the, Newt has that, his assistant who.

Yeah. She's in love with him, obviously. I think she was in the other ones, maybe. She was in the second one at least. Okay. Yeah. But in, but then it's sort of, I kept thinking, okay, well, are they going to have this relationship happen or is,

or is the previous girlfriend going to show up and there'll be a love triangle or what have you? But it turns out nothing is the answer. It's so strange for a number of reasons. First of all, you know, there's a couple of people that join their group and one of them I quite like and the other one is supposed to be Zoe Kravitz's brother who died in the last one or whatever. Oh, yes, uh-huh.

And it's just like, oh, is this guy going to, what's he going to do? One of them is a fake baby or something? I don't fucking know this guy. Like, I don't know these people. And I also don't remember who was in the last one so they're like what's this guy gonna do i don't i don't know yeah and i don't care just to clarify he's like he shows up and he's like uh they they send him to to grindelwald and and he says uh dumbledore sent me to to find you but actually i'm gonna i'm a double agent. I'm going to work with you.

And then Grindelwald's like, well, I'm going to take out your memories. And he's like, okay. And then at the end of the movie, you think that this guy is going to kill Newton and the good guys, but then he's like, ha-ha, I'm actually going to zap the bad guys. All right. Cool, man. Great. All right.

Great. That's great. It's good. I mean, it was 50-50 what you were going to do there. Maybe you shouldn't have killed Zoe Kravitz's character and that could have gone to her do you know what i mean at some point but yeah so the reason that i think theorize that katherine watterson is not in this is because in 2020 she shared a guardian article with the headline trans women pose no threat to cis women but we pose a threat to them if we make them outcasts so this was on her instagram story and

she highlighted a section of the piece that read sorry you can't be a feminist if you're not for everyone's human rights, notably other women's human rights. Now, of course, this is pure speculation, but do you think maybe that's why she had a severely reduced role in this movie written by, for the most part, J.K. Rowling? Yes, I do. But also why she... Also, her sister is with, like, Hitler, right?

Wizard Hitler. Oh, his sister's Queenie. Yeah, and the guy that she loves is also trying to battle against Hitler and she's just like, I just won't do any of that, I reckon. Like, narratively it doesn't make any sense. Yeah, this will probably work out and, you know, the sister I grew up with, she'll probably be fine. And they kind of hand wave it away.

I mean, I am a cop and I could do something. Well, they hand wave it away by being like, well, now she's the head of the magical whatever. Well, why did she take that? Right? Like, because. Yeah, like, oh, I could be rescuing my sister, but pay bump. Yeah.

You know? Exactly. I could be telling people what to do. I could have a desk job right now. I could save my sister from evil. I could, no, I'll just take this desk job, I reckon. Anyway, so you've probably heard about this in the other movies. I've never heard about anything.

Okay, well then let's see if you have. But the story is that Dumbledore had this incredible wizarding duel with Grindelwald, right? Oh, and that's what we saw in this. No. Oh, this is a different thing. So I think this might be it. Because what we saw in this. No. Oh, this is a different thing. So I think this might be it. Because what we saw is.

If this is it. If this is all they're doing, right? Okay, right. So. I think it is because they've got to tie off the loose ends. Yes. So I'd not heard about this until just now, but I think, unless they want to leave the door.

Okay, I reckon this is epic enough that you could say that it, I don't think it was epic. No. But I think it's epic enough that you could say that it – I don't think it was epic. No. But I think it's epic enough that if you wanted to say this was their iconic epic duel, you could say it was. But if this is popular enough they want to do a sequel, they could say the next one. And it's vague enough where he falls off a thing and whatever at the end.

But I don't think it lines up. I think if you had a vague idea of Harry Potter, you would go like, oh, that makes sense. I guess that's right. But if you know anything, if of Harry Potter, you would go like, oh, that makes sense. You know, I guess that's right. But if you know anything, if you dig slightly, it couldn't be right. First of all, like when Dumbledore, do you remember when he fought Voldemort and there's like big balls of water and they're shooting fucking lightning at each other? And this is just like zappity zap zap zap zap.

I mean, this movie leads to a couple of big magical battles and I felt they were quite underwhelming in terms of, again, it's just there is a scene where I guess Newt and his brother and the new lady, the witch, and a couple of other people, they're all in this. I didn't mind the new lady, the witch, actually. I didn't care for a speech cadence. I thought it was odd. It was weird and sing-song.

I didn't like it. A lot of swept thought it was odd. It was weird and sing-song. I didn't like it. Well, I was swept up in the magic. Okay, that's great. Well, there's a moment where they're all there and Dumbledore's there and they're in this little city and they're doing their shell game with the different cases. And at one point Dumbledore says to Jacob, I'll just FYI, your case doesn't have anything in it,

so just do whatever. I don't care. Yeah. Why? And there's no payoff. Right? Like I thought, oh, he had it and he's just trying to like calm him down. Yeah, yeah.

But it's just full of magic pastries. Why even make four fake cases if one of them is- And you're not going to tell anybody. Anybody, yeah. Or you've got to tell them anyway that there's nothing in it. Right. So they're all in this city, they're doing the shell game, and then all of a sudden they're all set upon by the bad guys

who are just like a generic, I guess, German magic cops in trench coats or whatever, and they're like, all right, time for the big magical battle and it's mostly just like zap zap zap imagine just imagine they all have like revolvers or whatever guns from that era and they're just like bang bang bang there's a little bit of you know oh i'll pick up some ornaments off a off a cellar on the street and i'll hurl them at people you're in a wall i'll throw a guy in a wall but i mean yep it wasn't The guy went in a wall. But, I mean, it wasn't. No. You see more diverse action in a Marvel movie.

Like in Endgame, at least everybody's got. Yeah, and that was supposed to be an insult, by the way. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. You see better action in one of the biggest action movies of the last decade. Yeah.

No, but, you know, just they're supposed to be one of the – come on, summon some monsters. Summon a big snake. Do some transmogrification. Change a thing into another thing. With the Dumbledore fight, just like the background goes all hazy. It's like, oh, it's just them. It's the focus.

Could be anywhere, yeah. But it's like zap, zap, zap, zap, zap. And then it ends. And I just thought that was so strange for a number of reasons. So I looked up when these movies are set, oh, it's just them. It's the focus. Could be anywhere, yeah. But it's like zap, zap, zap, zap, zap. And then it ends. And I just thought that was so strange for a number of reasons. So I looked up when these movies are set, right? Okay. Because I need to get like a handle on when and how this is happening. Okay, great.

So the first one was set in 1926. This, like the second one, was set around 1927, right? Now, the great- So World War II was in for ages. Yeah, exactly. So the Great Wizarding War, which is this huge, big, epic deal that's supposed to happen. So it's still on the way. I thought we were there.

Like, I thought this must be the late 30s because I'd forgotten when anything was. That starts in 1938 and goes to 1945. So there's a decade in between. There's a decade in between. And then we have to see Grindelwald actually rise to power, create an army, fight a parallel World War II in the Wizarding Universe and then be defeated by Dumbledore in 1945. And are we not? So we're not doing that, I guess?

I don't know if we are. I think they've just sanded it off. I think they're just like, all right. And obviously, like we mentioned, Ezra Miller's character, Credence, he was a troubled boy and they're just like okay we've sorted you so that's fine exactly Jacob and Queenie get back together and there's a wedding

so their problems are all sorted exactly Dumbledore's magic thing where you can't act against Grindelwald that just broke because of a vague because like because of a. Because they both had something about love and intention.

Yeah, so they can't act against one another. No. But Grindelwald was going to kill someone, I think a presidential candidate or Newt possibly. Or the guy? Was it the guy? The human man? Oh, no.

I can't remember. No, it wasn't because, no. So Grindelwald wants to kill someone and then Dumbledore wants to save him. Yes. And so they both zap at the same time. And because they're not acting against one another, they're both acting against a different person. That cancels out the curse.

It cancels out the curse and it destroys the little locket and so he's free again. So that's, they've sealed that off. And that was wonderful, wasn't it? It was wonderful. I felt wonderful. And then, so I looked into what's next. Producer David Heyman said, well, we just haven't.

Well. Well. What do you think? Deep sigh, drag on cigarette, well. We haven't yet started writing the next film, so we'll have to see. If I had my way, we'll definitely be going to Japan. Which is what you do in the third movie. Yeah, too late.

That's the rule. You go to ancient Japan in the third movie. Ninja Turtles 3 has set the precedent. It's too late to go to Japan. In 4, it's citizens on patrol. I would love to see Japan. Jacob's going to get his wand working. Also, what was that?

What was the deal there? Well, they're giving him the wand. Jacob. It was a misdirect for Mads Mikkelsen, wasn't it? Oh, to pretend he's going to be. But, I mean, so people would have seen this in the trailer. Yeah. We haven't actually said whether this is the best movie ever

or worst movie ever. Oh, just wait. We'll save it to the end. But in a rare break from tradition, we're spoiling this before the review, but basically in the trailer and in the movie, Dumbledore gives Jacob the muggle, the non-magical man, the nomadge, gives him a wand, and it's a special wand, but it is – It's not magic at all.

In the hands of a muggle, it's just a bit of wood. I think it has no core, don't they say? I don't know. I don't know. But then he's waving around, but there's a point where they're all in that room. They're all in a fancy dinner party. They're all in that room. The good guys are there and the German magic cops are there

and Grindelwald is there. Yeah. They're all having a fancy dinner because of the presidential election or whatever. And Jacob is still upset because Queenie left him for Grindelwald's cause, and he goes up to him at the table and he points the wand and he goes, ah, give me Queenie back. Give it. And then Mads Mikkelsen says, it's an assassin.

He's going to assassinate me. And then the papers the next day are like, muggle assassin, and he tried to kill Mads Mikkelsen, the hero of the piece or whatever. But he had a wand. Yeah. But you know it's not going to work and it never works. No. Like it never – there was no turn where, you know,

he's like I love Queenie so much and then magic happens because he believes in love. And I'd go, okay, that's fun and you don't even really have to justify it. You know, at the end of the movie they might go, well, that'll never work again but it worked once because you love your wife so much or whatever. And I'd go, okay, that's fine. Yeah.

But it just, why would, you wouldn't count that as an assassination attempt. It's like if a little kid walked up to the president with a water pistol. Yeah. And when I'm going to shoot you, you're going to throw that kid in jail, are you? Yes. Good. Yeah.

Terrific. But I don't. I just realised that witch who met up with him, apparently she was in the last movie. Yeah, maybe. I don't remember that at all. Okay, right. Great.

But at the end he's just like, well, I'm going to keep this wand. All right, great. What Dumbledore? Can I keep this? I don't give a shit. Yeah, it's just used a bit of wood. You want to collect a stick in the park? You want to take that with you as well?

You're like a little dog to me. You're nothing. I'm a wizard. You're a stupid little puppy. It's not good. Anyways, it's bad. It is bad. It's not good, is it?

Yeah. It's also. It's not worse than the last ones, I don't think, but it's bad in different ways. Yeah, it's bad in different ways. And look, the whole thing, just everything about this franchise is just bad taste for me. Do you know what I mean?

Like it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the discourse around, you know, the creator behind it. I just think it's so like there's so much spite and hate and like the people in it, there's a lot of controversy that we have to kind of dance around or mention. Like have we mentioned this enough? Are people aware of this?

How much do we owe in? Do you know what I mean? Can you still enjoy a thing even if the creator of it is terrible? I mean, not also if the thing is terrible. Yeah, that's true. That's a shame. Exactly, like has it grown? Does it grow beyond the people that make it?

Because I think often the case, you know, that can be true. But do you think this is it? Yes. If it is, because I think we're definitely doing the Harry Potter and his mates come back in the future one. Oh, do you think that the Half-Blood, not the Half-Blood, whatever it is. Oh, the Cursed Child. The stage show, yeah.

Do you think that they might do a time jump to the modern era in this if they were to do another one? Do you think they would do time jump to whenever the Harry Potter movies are set? I think. Because they are obsessed with now. Now, obviously, the reason this has gone the way it's gone and it hasn't been a magical goof who loves magic animals so much and he just goes on little adventures, it's because they went, this doesn't...

People love Harry Potter and they love going to Hogwarts and they love Dumbledore and they love all that stuff. See, I don't even think that's true. Like, you could make... Well, maybe they perceive that people love it. No, that is true. And I think they've gone, okay, well, we've got to have a scene in Hogwarts and there's – oh, it's the Slytherin kids and they're doing a prank or whatever.

Yeah. And – They made you eat a big piece of shit or whatever. Oh, we got you. You ate a big piece of shit. You fucking idiot. Nice. Anyway, they should put all – like just tip them into a bin, all those. You fucking idiot. Nice. Anyway, they should put all, like, just tip them into a bin.

All those kids in that house. Oh, you're in Slytherin? That's the trap door opens up. That's right, yeah. Now you're dead. You fall into a dragon's mouth. Now you're dead. What do you think about that?

Eh? Ah, yeah. Yeah. Look, so I think, look, I don't know. I don't think this is going to do well. And it's been diminishing returns for these new ones. There's no love for any of this built up. Yeah.

There's also obviously the controversy just surrounding all of it. I can't imagine them going, let's tackle World War II and we'll make a set in Japan also, which also were the villains in World War II. Now I think that, you know, there's certainly some issues to negotiate here, but I think with a deft touch we could really solve this. How do we do Hiroshima in the Wizarding World? Yeah.

Well, let's take some cues from the Eternals that did it really well and didn't make people go, oh, that's a bit weird. Yeah, why did you do that? Anyway, it's a bad movie. Worst movie ever. Worst movie ever, yeah. Yep, and hopefully we're done with this. Which is a shame, I think. It's just a shame all around.

It really is, yeah. It's a shame all around. I think, again, like I think there was a lot of potential for that. Yep. Just a fun Indiana Jones style romp and people would. Yeah. Had to do all the stuff they did in this and the previous ones, didn't they? It's pretty boring.

Yeah. Pretty kind of. Yeah, and the previous ones, didn't they? It's pretty boring. Yeah. Pretty kind of. Yeah, and what happened to those last two cases? We'll never know. We'll never know. Yeah. Fuck, all right, next segment, Mason.

All right, here we go. What's it called, though? It's called What We Readin'. Yep. What We Gonna Read. I love having the wind taken out of my sails. You know what I mean? I feel like I'm the one who Slytherin gave me a big piece of shit to eat. Yeah.

You know what I mean? And you gobbled it down with glee. And then I went, oh, no, that was a big piece of shit. And I ate it all in one go and I wish I had more. Slytherin boys, do you have some more? Because I ate it all in one go actually and I need more. No, that's not what happened. Wow.

Opposite. What's it tied for? Oh, what we read and what we're going to read. There we more. That's not what happened. Wow. Opposite. What's it tied for? Oh, what we read and what we're going to read. There we go. I'm doing the thing. Westworld. Very nice.

This is the segment of the show where we look at each other and we go, what have you been up to? What have you been up to? What have you been doing behind my back?

What have you been doing? You dog. You look doing behind my back? What have you been doing? You dog. You look at my wife. That kind of stuff, you know? It should be called Are You Looking at My Wife, the segment. Da-na-na-na-na. Na-na-na-na-na.

Na-na-na-na-na. You look at my wife. You dog. No, just no, it's all right. That's my business. That's my business you're looking at. Yep. You got something to say? no, it's all right. That's my missus. My missus you're looking at. You've got something to say, you're staring at my face. Anyway, Mason, what have you been doing?

Well, I haven't been doing much. Whose wife have you been looking at this week? I haven't been looking at anybody's wife, I don't think. No way to have. Go on. Well, I haven't been watching a lot of TV or movies because the Melbourne International Comedy Festival is on. Yes, yes, yes.

I hope to see people tonight as we're recording at the Do Go On live show. That's right. You're in. I'm in. But also I've just been seeing a lot of shows at the comedy festival. So there are still a couple of weeks to go. If you are in Melbourne, please pop in. I've got some recommendations for people.

Oh, I love it. Here we go. If you want to see just some straight up very good stand-up comedy, you should see Peter Jones, the most generic name in comedy. Or maybe in the world, but good stand-up comedy. I do. You should see Peter Jones, the most generic name in comedy, or maybe in the world, but tremendous stand-up comedy. Just bangers. Just bangers. Straight one after the other, would you say? Just 55 minutes of bangers.

Just great jokes. Wow. Couldn't even hit the hour, huh? That's right. Also, Greg Larson is great. Oh, yes. You might have seen him on the television. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Also, Laura Davis, who is- I saw that show. I said it was incredible. She loved Oh, yes. You might have seen him on the television. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, Laura Davis, who is- I saw that show. I said it was incredible. She loved it. Yeah, Laura Davis is great, and she's the best show she's ever done, I think. Wow. She's been doing it for ages, and I think people should get tickets and see that show. It's very, very good, very-

Do you think before it gets big and blows up? Yes. Great. It's really good. Lauren Bonner, who I've recommended before, does a great stand-up as well. And if you want to see maybe some sketch comedy, you should see Annie and Lena, which is a Yes, great. It's really good. Lauren Bonner, who I've recommended before, does a great stand-up as well. And if you want to see maybe some sketch comedy, you should see Annie and Lena, which is a two-person sketch comedy show,

just a bunch of sort of just fun, not really connected sketches, but just like a fun. Fun, silly stuff. Just a bunch of fun, silly stuff, which is really good, very fun, very enjoyable. And if you want to see a sketch comedy show that's a very silly kind of space opera, you should see the new Chimp Cop show. Oh, yes, that's right. It's called The Poster Syndrome, which is a very – it's aliens,

but it's the naked gun. Oh, right, gotcha, yeah, terrific stuff. It's very good. And they're back. They haven't been on hiatus for a few years, haven't they? They have been on hiatus, yes. So there you go. And also I'd highly recommend –

Oh, two of the filthy casual guys are in that, by the way. Oh, yes, that's true. Yes. Yeah. I would recommend if you want to go out there, buy some tickets, see some shows because maybe you're like, oh, I'll just wait until next week. Maybe the show you want to see, the act got COVID. That's right.

And you can't see them. And then, well, the show's a can't- Well, there's a big flight and they can't get out of their hometown, Will Anderson. Will Anderson, yeah. He got out of his hometown. He's doing his show. Apparently it's incredible.

Anyway, see all those names. Terrific. Big fan. And I think maybe this week I'm going to watch Severance. Oh, I watched all of Severance. What do you think of Severance? Loved it, Mason. Loved it.

I was like this. Ooh, this is good. I couldn't even hear it because I kept yelling things like that. That's incredible, James. Do you have Apple TV Plus? No, I'll have to get Apple TV Plus. I'll have to get another streaming service. Ah, you idiot.

That's good, though. It's worth it. There's a bunch of good stuff on Apple. So, Mason, I read one of Jeff Lemire's latest comics. Go on. It's called Little Monsters. It's the last children on Earth, right? And they're living in an abandoned, ruined city, like a New York-esque.

I can't remember which city. Can they get a New York slice? No, no, they can't, Mason, because they're living in an abandoned ruined city, like a New York-esque I can't remember which city. Can they get a New York slice? No, no, they can't Mason, because they're just doing kids stuff and then they're like, oh, we've been doing the same stuff for ages now, for hundreds of years, and it's like, wait a minute, anyway it turns out that they're all vampires all little children vampires. Anyway,

an arrival of a stranger kind of sets things off in motion. So they're waiting for this, like, for somebody to come back. They mention this person of like, yeah, he's got to come back or whatever. New York slice off him. Yeah, exactly. It's been 100 years. What's going on?

Anyway, again, only been two. But I mean, it's Jeff Lemire. He's one of the best. He normally makes a good comment book. It's true, yeah. Yeah. I can't think of a bad one and this one is a good one. There you go.

As of so far, who knows? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe at Harry Potter's off a cliff. Yeah. I can't think of a bad one and this one is a good one. There you go. As of so far, who knows? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe at Harry Potter's off a cliff. Yeah. Also, a couple of weeks ago I recommended a bunch of Comedy Festival stuff and I saw it all and very good. Except for Michael Williams' show which is coming up next week. Which you don't recommend?

No. Yeah, okay. Heavens no. Heavens no. No, no. Just you're joking though, aren't you? I am joking. I think it will be very good.

Terrific. Thank you. But I haven't seen it yet because it is not. Now, I'm not joking right now though. Go on. Do you have a letters theme song for us? I do have a letters theme song ready to go. Terrific.

And I'm not going to break with tradition. I'm going to do the classic standard letters theme. Okay. It goes like this. The classic one was. Letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a day away. I know they're here right now.

We're going to do letters. I thought you were going to do a prank then. No, no, no, no, no. Very good. Well, good. No pranks here. Too late in the hour for pranks, I think. It's true. If you do want to reach the show, hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter

or WeeklyPlanetPod at gmail.com. Mason, do you have a big Gmail for us? I'm going to get a big Gmail right now, actually. I would love to hear about it. Okay. This is from Daniel. Hello, Daniel. Bi-annual Harry Potter film review, question mark.

Oh, yes. Hello, chaps. After getting home from the latest Fantastic Beasts film, I was wondering if you plan on reviewing the next couple of Harry Potter films any time soon. Keeping your current schedule, we're due a couple this year and the final instalment sometime in 2024. In the meantime, if you could cast the half a Brickiamo spell on me

to help me forget that Fantastic Beasts exists, then that would be great. We can't help you. That's from Dan in Essex. You're going to have to hit yourself in the head with a brick. That's true. Yeah, I don't know. Are we going to do that?

Might as well round them off. Yeah, we'll round them off. I think next week we want to do maybe everything all at once is happening all the time. And maybe Sonic 2, which was out this week. And maybe The Lost City, which is also out. Maybe The Lost City. So yeah, I don't know. But yeah, we should do it. We'll get to it. Just get it done.

Get it done. Just get it done. Yeah. I would also be interested to know, if you want to tweet at us, what you would like us to do next week. There are a surprisingly large amount of options out there. I agree. Maybe we'll do a little bit of everything. Also, like, maybe buy tickets to, like, three movies and see five, ten minutes of each of them.

See some of them, yeah. And then leave? Okay, great. Exactly. Review based on those. Did you know I have a tweet here from Fleazy? I did know that, yeah. Oh, you did?

Cool. But do you know what's in the tweet? Yeah, but you tell me. Okay. Maybe you don't know. I'll check if I know. Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. Hey, James and Maceo. Love the show. It helps me get Okay. Maybe you don't know. I'll check if I know. Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod.

Hey, James and Maceo. Love the show. It helps me get through all my long days at work. I've been dying to know if you guys will talk about Better Call Saul's final season, which starts April 18th. It's the final to the Brr-ba universe. So I've been super hype. Me too.

Oh. Apparently, we're going to get some Jesse and Walter White turning up at some point as well. Oh my goodness. I'm very much looking forward to that. I don't know if we'll do like a dedicated episode. Maybe we will. Well I am many seasons behind. Well you better get caught up quick bitch. Okay. Whoa. That's from the

show. That's from the show. Very good. Just to be clear I also meant it. It wasn't just a joke. I understand. Yeah. That's from our show. When I say that's from the show I meant that's from our show. That's from the show. Very good. Just to be clear, I also meant it. It wasn't just a joke. I understand. That's from our show. When I say that's from the show, I meant that's from our show. You like Biddle Call Saul, right? Yeah, but I'm not. I'm seasons behind. I think it's still very, I think it's as good. Yeah. Let's see how it

wraps up. Yes. It's a good prequel. Who knew? What's next, Mason? Here's an email from Neil. Hello, Neil. It says, Mark Kermode meets the weekly planet. I did see this, yes. Hey, guys. Thought you'd be interested to know that the great Neil. Says Mark Kermode meets the weekly planet. I did see this, yes. Hey, guys. Thought you'd be interested to know that the great UK film critic Mark Kermode is now aware of the pod's existence.

On the most recent episode of his podcast, Kermode on Film, reviewing the Batman. A bit behind, this guy. I know. Catch up, mate. Co-host Jack Howard brought up an excellent podcast called Mr. Sunday Movies. I mean. Yes.

Also inaccurate. So they're behind the eight ball and Movies. I mean, also inaccurate. So they're behind the eight ball and all that. Well, Jack Howard, we follow each other on Twitter. He does a number of things. He's a filmmaker and he's a YouTuber and he does podcasts and all these kinds of things. And Kermode has a couple of podcasts. He does another one through BBC,

which I've been listening to for like over a decade. I've tried not to listen to it. I don't listen to it before I talk about movies because I'll just be like, yeah, the thing he said. But, yeah. Mark Kermode said Fantastic Beasts was good. And Jack Howard's great. Well, Jack Howard brought us up and explained the nickname

Robat Battenbat, to which Kermode simply responded, very good. So I don't have any. They have real film opinions. We just kind of like spin our wheels until it's an hour and a half. That's true. I know James has mentioned being a fan of his in the past and thought this was a neat bit of crossover. Cheers, guys, from Neil.

That was cool. Someone tweeted me that. And for a long time, Mark Komoda was on a podcast called The Komodan Mayo. Yeah, he still does it. That's what I'm talking about. The Weekly Mayo? Oh, that one.

I don't know about that one. Okay, because there used to be one every time. He does the Komodan Mayo one. If you searched weekly, it would come up with the Weekly Mayo? Oh, that one. I don't know about that one. Okay, because there used to be one every time. He does the Komodo Mayo one. If you searched weekly, it would come up with the Weekly Mayo every time. Like, oh, that son of a bitch. People think mayo is more important. There's a weekly Planet-like climate change newsletter website. So I get Google alerts every now and then.

It's like, you've been mentioned. I'm like, ah, it's just climate disaster shit. Yeah. Yeah. But if I were them, like, you've been mentioned. I'm like, ah, it's just climate disaster shit. Yeah. Yeah. But if I were them, like, you probably should have Googled it because that's probably important. Yeah, I would have Googled it also. We don't want to step on that. Little fun fact, I actually Googled the Weekly Planet

before we named the podcast The Weekly Planet. That's right. And now we're winners, aren't we? Yeah. We're like the second or third most popular podcast called The Weekly Planet, which I think is nice. I agree. And we're down. Like, we went down a spot. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're like the second or third most popular podcast called The Weekly Planet, which I think is nice. I agree. And we're down.

Like we went down a spot. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're still in the top four. That's really good. Got one from DVD Mike here, Mason. I'm ready. It says, Martin Campbell has always been a massive hit and misdirector.

For every Zorro, there's a second Zorro. For every no escape, there is Congo. Some escape. That's right. And I like, he wrote, and I like Vertical Limit. I also, we saw Vertical Limit in cinemas. I remember, yeah. And boy, we had a good and great time with it, didn't we?

That, if I recall, was a movie in which numerous people in the audience would just yell stuff at the screen and everybody would just laugh and clap along. Everybody just had a really good time. Having a great time. Just people we knew, people we didn't know. Yeah. People in there just.

Very unusual experience. Yeah. Yeah. So did you watch The Protege last year? Because he did that. Oh, The Protege with Michael Keaton and some other people. I did see that. Yeah, okay.

Maggie Q, yeah. Maggie Q was in that, yeah. There's also a movie called Memory this year with Liam Neeson, which is out in April. Oh. So I'm like, and it's about when Alex, presumably Liam Neeson, an expert assassin, refuses to complete job for a dangerous criminal organisation.

He becomes a target. Whoa. FBI agent and Mexican intelligence are brought to investigate a trail of bodies, leading them closer to Alex. With a crime syndicate and FBI in hot pursuit, Alex has the skills to stay ahead except for one thing. He's struggling with memory loss. It's the memory loss year, Mason.

It sure is. Wow. Yeah. Affecting his every move, Alex must question his action and whom he can ultimately trust. Isn't that bizarre? He's already done a memory loss one, didn't he do? Yeah, right.

Unknown was the one where he thought he had a wife and it was a fake wife or something. I mean, but I mean certain, James, certain auteurs definitely have, you know have their themes that they come to often. Sometimes it's always like, boy, I didn't think my divorce affected my cinematic output, but then it's like three movies called I Hate My Wife.

I love the I Hate My Wife trilogy. Yeah, the I Hate My Wife trilogy, yeah. They're just leaning further and further away from each other on the posters, but maybe one of them is trying to pull them back in, you know what I mean? Yeah, nice, nice, nice. Anyway, what's next? Great question. Is it anything?

There's an email from Greg. Okay, Greg. Another tragedy on Monthbius. Oh no. Just to be clear though, Monthbius is over. Monthbius is over officially, yeah. Not because the people don't love Monthbius, because you vetoed it. No one's suggesting that.

Greg says, hey, guys, I was driving me and my girlfriend, who I got into the podcast back home from university, listening to the latest podcast when the tyre in my car exploded. I assume the tyre on, like, one of the wheels. Not the spare. Not the spare exploded. I mean, that would still give you a bit of a fright. That would certainly be shocking, right?

Yeah. Luckily, we were both fine and stopped at a nearby servo and waited an hour for the roadside assistance to come. And your podcast helped us pass the time while we waited. Thanks for the laughs and a thing to pass the time. Did you do one earbud each? Oh, that's a great point. Yeah.

Do people still do one earbud each? Probably. It's easier than ever now. Yeah, it's true. Because you can, they're wireless. Yeah. But that's not as like, you know, that's. Where's the communal nature? You could be on the opposite sides of a bus. Yeah, that's're wireless. Yeah. But that's not as like, you know, that's. Where's the communal nature?

You could be on the opposite sides of a bus. Yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah. Where's the communal nature of the one earbud? Yes. Yeah. Now I would never put someone else's earbuds in my ear. Because they're gross?

Do you want to listen? I'm like, get away from me. Do you want me to listen to your gross earwax? No, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. What's next, Mason? That's the whole show, I think.

Unless you've got another toy. We've got one more description from Scott Wilkinson who says, my wonderful wife surprised me today by handing me over the I Hate My Wife trilogy on DVD. Wow. By texting me my new username and password to bigsandwich.co at MrSundayMovies at Wikipedia Brown, hashtag WikipediaPlanetPod. With gas at $4 a gallon, I'm going to go bankrupt driving around

and listening. Yeah, that's much appreciated. Thank you to both you and your wife. But, yeah, you don't have to chip in a goddamn thing. That's very true. If you do not have to. But we do appreciate any and all support that we get and we'll never stop talking about the Fantastic Beasts movies.

That's right. Every single one of them. No matter how problematic the creator got and no matter how bad the movies get. We just want to see little waistcoats. That's true. Alright, what's next, Mason? James, that is the whole show. Folks, thank you so much for listening.

Thank you for subscribing. Thank you for telling your friends all about the podcast. I am subscribed, actually. Good for you. On iTunes. Thank you for telling your friends about it. Thank you for leaving a five-star review on the podcast platform of your choice. It helps get it in front of other people and they say, oh, what's this?

It'd be like recommended for you. Okay, don't mind if I do. I'll give this a try. Are they leaping over? Are they vaulting something? Are they vaulting a vaulting horse? They're doing hurdles together. That's great.

Yeah. Why don't you give this a listen too? They've got the hiccups as well? They've got the hiccups, yeah. Oh, no. Yeah, put this one headphone in and we'll run this track together. Yeah, anyway, go on. That's beautiful.

Thanks. Do you have any of those five-star reviews there? Oh, shit, Jason. That's what you were saying. Yeah, I do. Got one here from Bondathon who says, if extensive discussions about hat culture is what you're looking for, look no further. Listen to two

best friends tell you everything you need to know about hats. From Jonathan Burgess. Did we talk about hats? Maybe a while ago. Probably did. Remember, I think we also said just trick people into a thing that they like. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you love hats. Yeah. Yeah. This is from one from John who says, been listening since episode three or

four. Started off not really liking comic book movies, but James and May, so I have such good insight and banter back and forth. I eventually began to see things I hadn't seen before and gained interest in these types of movies and entertainment. Daniel Craig Bond was another body of work I wasn't familiar with. The Caravan of Garbage sparked my interest, so recently I made my way, along with my wife,

to watch all the Daniel Craig Bond movies over the course of a week, and last night we saw No Time to Die, by far the best Bond movie I've seen. I definitely think Craig's Bond would absolutely murder all the other Bonds if they were to fight at their primes on an American football field, hands down. Anyways, it was great to be in the theatres again, and we really enjoyed ourselves. Thank you, gents, for bringing the podcast out

and sharing your insights over the years. Peace. John from Washington. Well, you are very... Landlocked John. Welcome, folks. Washington. Well, you are very... Landlocked, John. Welcome, folks. If you want to get into contact with us, you can go to Weekly Planet Pod at Gmail, at Facebook, at Twitter,

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lovely places to talk about pop culture and podcasts. Or you're out also. Or you're out. We'll boot you very quickly. That's right. We might get a few this week. What happened to freedom of speech? Get fucked.

That's what happened to it. We don't believe in freedom of speech. And you're welcome. Also, Australia has freedom of speech because we got the slap of Will Smith uncensored, unlike everywhere else in the world. That's right. Hell yeah. You excited for the election, Mason?

No. Me neither. I remember having a full meltdown last time. That's great. It's great for everyone. Folks, if you want to follow some other fine people, you can follow our friend Rob Collings who edits this podcast, who edits our Hawk Talk Talk Eye monthnight recaps.

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You can chuck in $5,000 trillion if you want. But I mean, it's whatever you wouldn't miss. Exactly. So if you're a big time millionaire. I am. You want to put some money in there? Me? Yeah.

No, I want the money. That's how you become a millionaire. What are you, stupid? You want to become a bigger time there? Me? Yeah. No, I want the money. That's how you become a millionaire. What are you, stupid? You want to become a bigger time millionaire. Yeah, exactly. I can respect that. I want to buy one of those super yachts. Yeah, nice.

And then like- Crash it? Yeah, block up a canal. Yeah. And ruin everybody's summer. Nice, but you're having a great time in the super yacht because it's entirely self-contained. I don't give a shit. Until there's a mutiny and they kill you.

Oh, what? Your staff. Your staff will kill you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They said they were going to. No, I'm rich. They can't do that. They're going to though. Oh, man. Your staff. Your staff will kill you. Yeah, yeah. They said they were going to. No, I'm rich. They can't do that. They're going to, though.

Oh, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, at least I'll always have the movie Memory with Liam Neeson. Oh, they chucked it into the water. They chucked it in the Suez Canal. This is bullshit, man. Yeah, I know, right? Yeah, yeah.

But you should have learned. You got to. What happened to respect? You know what I mean? That's a great point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what happened the other day? Go on.

The street near my house. Yes. And the strip of shops, two people tried to get in the same car park. Two old guys. Oh, had, yeah. You know what happened the other day? Go on. The street near my house. Yes. And the strip of shops too, people tried to get in the same car park. Two old guys. Oh, had that end. And guess who came out to like to shout and like kind of mediate? You? More old white guys.

I was going to say. It was crazy. That's crazy, yeah. I was going to say, it'd be a wild time if you stepped in to mediate. Too angry, man. Well, there's part of me that wants to come in and just be like, just done talking nonsense. Grow up. Oh, there's part of me that wants to come in and just be like, just done talking nonsense. Grow up.

Yeah. Wow. Very fun. That's good stuff. Yeah, anyway. Folks. Just leave the spot. Who cares? You don't need to lock into it. It doesn't matter. Just park over there and walk 200 metres. It's fine. Oh, you can also sign up at bigsandwich.co. I'd love to. Early podcasts and early videos

and bonus podcasts and movie commentaries and all kinds of stuff. I'm having a great to. Early podcasts and early videos and bonus podcasts and movie commentaries and all kinds of stuff. I'm having a great time. Trying to think this week because we did the Phantom Menace video game, I'm just going to put up early the full unedited. Whoa. It's like 30 minutes of us playing through the Phantom Menace video game. Oh, wow.

I'm just going to chuck it up there. It seems to flow pretty well. Obviously, it'll be edited down for the YouTube, but I think I'll put it up now. So if you're hearing this, it's up there now. It's already up. My goodness. I'm what, Mason?

That's the whole thing. But also, folks, we've got some T-shirts on tpublic.com. You just search for The Weekly Planet. You can also thank the Brute and the Bass. Let's go and rock them for all our musical themes. I'm going to thank them every day of my life. Next week, some movies probably. At least one movie we're going to talk about.

At least one movie. Yeah, maybe something else. Yeah, nice. Maybe Snake Eyes. Yeah. Oh, damn it. What? We didn't do Snake Eyes, some movies probably. At least one movie. At least one movie. Yeah, maybe something else. Yeah, nice. Maybe Snake Eyes. Yeah. Oh, damn it. What? We didn't do Snake Eyes, but we could.

Shit, you're right. Anyway, that's okay. Maybe next week we'll just have more thoughts about Secrets of Dumbledore. I bet I don't. I bet I forget everything about this. I bet I think about it every day. He had a brother and his brother had a son and then they wrote them all out of the movie, I think.

I thought his brother was going to be a muggle, but then he wasn't a muggle. No, his brother's in the sequel, the original Harry Potter movies. And he's like, I hate my brother because he killed our sister. Yeah, right, right. But it didn't feel like they hated each other here, I think. What happened to the sister then? She got zapped in a big wizarding fight because she was a big cloud of smoke that got angry. Oh, was she ever an actor? Was she always a cloud of smoke?

I think they just cast a picture in the original movies and then that picture was in. Oh, I did see that picture on the wall. Yeah, I think it was in the other movies. Okay, that, no, okay, right. It's my dream to be a picture in a Harry Potter movie. Oh, yeah? Just a picture and have to keep using it.

Wow. In all the other movies. Terrific. All right, thanks, everybody. Oh, Sonic. Anyway, grab that jam, you guys. We'll see you next week. Goodbye.

Bye. Goodbye, Sonic. Anyway, grab that jam, you guys. We'll see you next week. Goodbye. Bye. Goodbye. Bye. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost.

FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.