The Weekly Planet - 431 The Death Of Netflix & The Northman
Episode Date: April 25, 2022Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.This was a big bad week for Netflix with news of huge subscriber loss..., massive layoffs and a record share price drop. Also we watched The Northman. Thanks for listening!Gustav and Henri by Andy Matthews & Peader Thomas: https://bit.ly/3KPHES6Do Go On Live Show with Maso: https://play.acast.com/s/do-go-on/339-the-island-of-dr-morea00:00 Dog Time02:58 Thor: Love and Thunder Teaser15:39 Minecraft Movie18:19 Netflix Troubles28:50 Ezra Miller Bad News32:00 Delays But Don’t Dismays33:05 Morbius Fallout36:05 The Batman Concept Art43:49 The Northman (spoilers 01:03:53 to 01:12:35)01:12:35 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:18:51 Letters, It’s Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday.
And with me is always, as always, is my co-host, Nick Mason.
The dog was scratching the door.
Yep.
She threw off my game.
Yeah, I understand.
I nearly nailed it for once in my life.
Yeah, I understand.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Every time it's an excuse.
The dog's scratching the door.
The dog's not scratching at the door.
That's right, exactly.
It's either one of the two excuses.
But I agree because also we're now in that position of like,
okay, either we ignore the dog and she keeps scratching forever
or we let the dog in for a while and derails everything
for a couple of minutes until you're like, get out, dog.
This is actually not good.
Yeah, yeah.
This is not good podcasting anymore.
Not good content. And the dog's like, I thought it would be good for content, get out, dog. This is actually not good. Yeah, yeah. This is not good podcasting anymore. Not good content.
And the dog's like, I thought it would be good for content,
but it's not.
No, there's a certain point where it helps in monetisation
and then it dips off.
We've studied this.
We've looked at all the data.
We've got some people in.
We've got some outside forces so we know where we're at.
We genetically engineered two dogs, a beautiful designer
Beagle-ear or whatever it is, and a mutt, an old mutt.
Yeah, it could be just a big rat.
The perfect combo.
That's right.
Anyways, this week, of course, we've got a bunch of stuff, Mason.
Do you want me to read out the topics?
Yes.
Which Collings will put time codes below so we'll know what to jump to.
People choose to jump around.
That's cool, man.
That's fine.
They choose to house a painted.
Exactly.
That's right.
I'm going to talk about the Thor Love and Thunder teaser trailer.
I'm going to talk about the Minecraft movie.
Oh.
Fast 10 as a title.
That dog's still scratching.
Dog's scratching, right?
I'm going to check which dog it is.
Okay.
Because it depends on whether I let them in or not.
Listeners, also guess.
Before it's revealed, guess which dog it is.
Yes.
I reckon it's the.
I think it's Ollie.
Oh, I was going to say I thought it was Zippy.
All right, we'll find out.
Okay, we'll find out.
Netflix might be in big trouble, Mason.
Ezra Miller, bad stuff.
Might be in trouble.
More bad stuff.
Ezra Miller pulled a Netflix and Netflix pulled an Ezra Miller.
They're both in trouble.
What a combination.
Delays but not dismays.
The Morbius fallout.
There's been some Morbius fallout.
It's affecting other movies, it turns out.
Elbius?
Yes.
Thank you.
That was going to be my one bit of news,
but I'm going to have to quickly come up with another one bit of news.
You might have to.
And then, of course, we've got The Northman,
which we're going to talk about today.
That's right.
So, yeah, looking forward to coming around to all of that.
Let me just check if the dog's still at the door.
Okay, and tell me which dog it is.
No, actually, we're going to both check because you'll lie.
I don't lie.
You're going to lie.
It's Ollie, I told you.
Son of a...
Zippy, why couldn't you have been at the door?
Hey, Ollie.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
You're the only dog here, so you're my favourite dog currently.
Hello.
Hello.
Big change.
Well, well, well.
Look who knows the dogs. Me. Yep. Correct. Anyways, dog time, well, well. Look who knows the dogs.
Me.
Yep.
Correct.
Anyways, dog time's over, everybody.
That's enough.
Everyone back to work.
Back to work.
Back to the bloody content mines.
So, of course, there was a Thor Love and Thunder teaser this week.
We both did a video on it together, which Matt edited,
if you do want to check it out.
A single video.
We didn't individually make videos and compete.
Well, actually, we did make them separately,
but then they happened to work really well together.
That's perfect.
We just combined them into one beautiful video.
Some people want to check that out.
Because my video, I have no confidence, and I'm just like,
this was exciting, wasn't it, James?
Yes, it was exciting.
Put them together.
Yeah, that's right.
But have you got any additional thoughts on what you've seen?
Well, here's a thought.
Here's an email that came in, James.
Wow, I love emails.
An email.
One bit of email.
Yeah, one bit of email.
This is from Faye who says,
Hey, lads, with Zeus and presumably other Greek gods showing up
in Love and Thunder, I've been wondering if and how they're going
to address the fact that in Eternals it was established that Athena
was the inspiration for the Greek goddess Athena rather than Athena herself.
Oh, my God, I didn't think of that.
I feel if they do address it, they'll probably just say they're both real figures
separately influenced the version the Greeks worshipped.
Realistically, I think it probably won't be mentioned.
Yeah, that's probably more likely.
Yeah, I think that's, yeah, well, yes.
I mean, maybe we won't, yeah, I'd say we probably won't see her, right?
As in, oh, Athena, we won't see Athena again.
Yeah, I suspect if they're not on the cast her, right? As in, oh, Athena. We won't see Athena again. Yeah.
I suspect if they're not on the cast list, unless they have a big surprise.
Athena's here.
Sure.
Yeah.
That would be the same.
Yeah, that's really cool.
Athena's here and everybody will be like, wow.
Wow.
Yeah.
I'd completely forgotten that other thing that happened in a different movie.
I'm just looking forward to all the cameos we'll see in Doctor Strange and then no more multiversal cameos, please.
Yeah, there we go.
Look, my, I mean, you know, we did cover it in the video,
but I feel we should also.
We should just, we've got to give it a bloody good go here, I reckon.
I agree.
Well, here's something.
First of all, I love the fact that Thor is, he's getting back into shape.
Again, like I said, he's absolutely using the exercises
in Chris Hemsworth's own fitness app, I think.
What's it called, Center?
Center, yeah.
People spell Center differently depending where.
Centaur.
Like Centaur.
Maybe he'll be battling a Centaur.
He'll be fighting a big Centaur.
To get fit again, yeah.
He's something.
I mean, that's old.
You said that in the video already, Mason.
I've got something new.
Oh, okay, yeah.
So apparently, and I thought this was the case,
but it's been confirmed in like Toy Leaks and whatever,
and I think maybe official synopsis,
that it's not Natalie Portman from another dimension or anything.
Oh, and it's regular Natalie Portman, and she is sick,
so she does have cancer like in that version in the comics.
Jane Foster.
Natalie Portman is fine.
Currently does not have cancer, which is great.
So, yeah, I'm not surprised by that,
but a few people mentioned that in the comments.
A few people also seem upset that it's King Valkyrie.
Oh.
Some people don't like that.
Look, a lot of people are upset that it's King Valkyrie
and a lot of people are upset that Jane Foster is Thor
because apparently Thor is a name and not a title.
Oh, yeah.
I'm upset too now, actually.
Yeah, you should be upset.
I'm very upset.
We're everybody's upset.
But the hammer is whoever wields it has the power of Thor or whatever.
And so I guess you can call yourself whatever you want.
And people have said, well, Thor is Thor Odinson.
She can be a different Thor.
Yeah, exactly.
It's all fine, guys.
It's all fine.
It's actually not real.
Exactly.
It's not real.
And also there have been multiple female kings throughout history.
And also it's just a word.
It's just a word someone made up.
It's just a word, isn't it?
Yeah.
It's almost like they've chosen.
And I know words matter and whatever, but this one doesn't.
It's also like they've chosen that deliberately to upset certain people
and it's working.
Gets people talking.
It's great marketing.
It gets people talking, yeah.
A question that has arisen, I think, is who put the hammer back together?
I think it was Jane Foster herself.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
The big crane or something?
No, she picked it up and it reforged.
That's just magic.
It was magic.
That's what happens with magic.
Sometimes it puts a big hammer back together.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I do like, and we probably talked about this.
I think it was like a surly New York steel worker or something like that.
Just like, why are they doing it though?
Well, he was on holiday in Norway or whatever and he and his wife sat down.
Like they put the picnic blanket down and they sat down and he's like,
hey, what's this?
You know?
And he had to do it?
Yeah.
I'm working here.
He was working there.
Did he get paid?
No.
Why did he do it then?
I don't know.
He shouldn't do anything for free.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's a joker thing, et cetera, and whatever.
Something, something for free and money.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
I like how you can see like the energy through the cracks of the hammer or whatever.
I like all of that.
You know what I mean?
Something we didn't see, we didn't see any of Gaul the God Butcher.
No.
Except in Toy Leaks.
Yes.
So we've seen two hammers though, haven't we?
Because there's the one that was broken in the last Thor movie
and then Thor steals another hammer from another dimension.
Oh, in Endgame.
In Endgame, which presumably Steve Rogers then returns.
Returns, yes, correct.
Unless there is still two hammers in the universe.
But I think the point of that trip was like,
I better take this back.
Sure, sure, sure.
Because somebody's going to be missing this.
They're going to have to do all sorts of adventures.
Or I'll stash it and win World War II really easily.
I'll stash it in 1939.
I'll hit Hitler in the head.
Hitler in the head with it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, a lot of people have talked about, like, could we see that Steve Rogers going
through time and dimensions to return stuff?
I would love that.
I mean, sure, if they pay Chris Evans $50 million.
Yeah, why not?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it's not our money. They could do it as an animated
what-if kind of style thing, I guess.
It would be cheaper than going to eight different
movies or whatever they need to do.
Oh, yeah, good point, yeah.
I mean, it's interesting the ones
that he had to return as well, because some of
them are in space on a weird
planet. He didn't go back with a spaceship.
One of them only emerges after somebody is killed.
So how do you give that one back?
Maybe it's easy to give it back than it is to retrieve it.
You know what I mean?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe you have to bring your best friend and go,
this is my best friend.
And they go, great.
And then you give him the stone.
Oh, that's nice.
But he was on his own.
So that would have been, he would have had to make a best friend.
The Red Skull.
Oh, he's given him the stone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that the twist? That have had to make a best friend. The Red Skull. Oh, he's given him the stone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that the twist?
That's the twist, yeah.
Guess what, Red Skull, you're my best friend.
Yeah, good stuff.
Anyway, if people are interested though,
we actually covered Doctor Strange the Oath for BigSandwich.co this week.
That's right.
A storyline from 2007.
Yeah.
Brian K. Vaughan doing the writing there.
Very good, enjoyable.
Exactly.
Very smarmy and superior Doctor Strange.
He's teaming up with Wong.
He's teaming up with the Night Nurse.
Yep.
Good back and forth.
Good bit of fun.
He got shot in it as well.
He got shot, it's true.
He's been speaking to Hitler.
We won't spoil it.
Oh, yeah.
That is part of it as well.
Hitler did it.
That's right.
Anyway.
What else happens in that Thor trailer?
We get to see the back of Zeus and his ridiculous metal lightning bolt.
Russell O'Rourke himself.
That's right.
Yeah, Russell Crowe, obviously.
So that'll be exciting.
And you reckon they're going to go like big buffoon kind of jovial?
I think so.
Yeah.
Right?
And again, the question, of course, is there going to be a Hercules?
We didn't see one.
But again, it might be the Athena thing. Like going to be a Hercules? We didn't see one.
But again, it might be the Athena thing.
Like they'll cross the bridge when they come to it. Or maybe there'll be a tavern full of heroic revelry.
Yes.
But Thor doesn't have time to go in or whatever.
And it's like they're all in there.
They're all Hercules and Athena and all the rest, they're in there.
Doesn't Hercules in Civil War kill robot Thor? Yes. That's true, right? I think so. Yeah, he has a big mace and all the rest, they're in there. Doesn't Hercules in Civil War kill Robot Thor?
Yes.
That's true, right?
I think so.
Yeah, he has a big mace and he's like, you're not Thor.
Smash.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Smash your face in.
So I got a few suggestions here in the comics that one of them,
Henry Cavill, should play Hercules.
Okay, that could work.
It's too small a role though.
I thought you were going to say he's too small a man.
He isn't.
That was from Josh, but this is a great one from Alice.
That being said though, if I may.
This is such a good comment, Mason. I can hardly wait.
The thing of it is
is that there aren't any
small roles in Marvel.
All the core Avengers. Only bad
actors. Only bad actors. I'm saying like
the original Avengers in the movies
were the leftovers so why not take
another character who very few
people are. He rarely gets a solo book
for more than a year or so or whatever.
Just see what a good actor can do with it and maybe people will love it
just as much as they love all the other characters,
but probably not because the other characters had 10 years
and they're well established.
Okay, interesting.
And everybody hates everybody else.
Yep, all right, good stuff.
Now to get back to my amazing thing that I was going to say.
Your little quote.
I wasn't listening, but Al S. Film says. Good, because I was get back to my amazing thing that I was going to say. I wasn't listening. But
Al S. Film says... Good, because I was talking nonsense.
The only people who'll know that
were the listeners. No, I thought
I was listening and that was a good point.
Al S. Film says Rob
McElhenney would be really fun. From Always Sunny,
yeah. And he's big now.
Where is he currently, though? He's pretty big.
Is he still big? Yeah, he's not as big as he was, but he's
like... He could get bigger. He could get bigger.
He could get bigger.
And also like Russell Crowe's not gladiator ripped is he anymore.
He's just like I'm a guy.
I'm a guy now.
A regular guy.
Oh, you think they could all be regular guys.
They could be regular guys.
But again, he's kind of big.
You know what I mean?
So I think he'd be a great Hercules.
Is Rob McElhenney tall?
I think he's like 5'9".
Okay, right.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
Everyone in Hollywood is 5'9".
Except for Liam Neeson.
And Hemsworth.
And Hemsworth.
Oh, that's true.
And Hemsworth.
So people also mentioned Arnold as well because he has played Hercules before.
In that ad.
But he's too – well, that.
And he played in Hercules in New York.
Oh, that's true also.
But he's – was he Zeus in that ad?
It doesn't matter.
Yeah.
But he's too – would it be weird if he's older than Russell Crowe?
I mean, you could de-age him.
It's true.
But that would be strange.
Yeah.
You know what?
I would love an Olympus that is just absolute nonsense.
Like it doesn't make any sense.
Like people's kids are older than their dads.
Yeah, absolutely.
That would be great.
You're right.
Who cares?
Who cares?
Yeah, good stuff.
Again, it's the people like, oh, my God, Thor's making eyes at Peter Quill.
Can you imagine it?
And, again, we've talked about this in Loki.
In the original myth, Loki gave birth to an eight-legged horse.
Yeah.
So, like, it's not.
It's fine.
It's pretty much fine.
I want to see that.
That's all I want to see.
All right.
We should move it along.
Also, there's a lot of stuff.
There's a lot of set design that is very obviously an homage to.
Like Clash of the Titans?
No, I was going to say Marvel artists.
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we didn't really talk about it in the video beyond that,
but, you know, the question then, of course, becomes.
Oh, who gets paid?
Are they getting paid for this?
There was that particular, the artist who did the big dead god.
Yes.
Actually, I'm glad you brought this up.
You finally have a good point.
Thank you.
This is my one bit of news.
No, it's not.
Well, I guess it could be if you are so inclined.
But so the artist who did that picture of the big, giant, dead stone god,
it's not stone, you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
People are like, well, this is concept art basically what you've done.
You've designed this shot.
It's like a storyboard essentially.
Yeah, exactly.
Except the movie version has added Korg.
Yeah.
Because Taika Waititi's like, I'll be in that.
I'll be in that frame.
Why not?
I'll be in that beautiful painting there.
Yeah.
And I just, you know, and there's been like a history
and a very recent history also of them not paying people properly.
I know the guy who created Bucky's, like every time he comes up,
or he created the Winter Soldier, sorry.
Yeah.
It's like, well, I invented that.
And I know, and I've still seen comments
where people are like, yeah, but you did it in-house and Marvel
and it's under-
I understand the legality of it. Like, I get it.
But that's still not very cool.
But I also wonder if it's a case of
you know, Siegel and Schuster
who created Superman, they didn't know at the
time that it was going to become a billion dollar industry.
Well, that's true, yeah.
So you could go back and say, well, you've made a billion dollars
off Superman, they're entitled to some of it.
But if we are now in an era where it has been very firmly established
that if you create something at Marvel they will probably put it in a movie,
is that evidence, should that be evidence to you, the artist or the writer,
that if you are taking on the work,
you sort of acknowledge that.
Like if you were to be like, okay, I'm going to do some art for Thor
and then they put it in a movie, they could very well turn around
and say, look, you know that we're going to do that.
Yeah.
If you didn't want us to do that, you shouldn't have taken
on the job or whatever.
You shouldn't have done worse work.
Yeah, you should have done much worse work.
Well, I think, you know, the answer is a bunch of those people
like band together and like go up against Marvel like as a collective.
With like weapons and stuff?
Yeah, weapons and sticks.
Kevin Feige, are you going to get him?
Well, I don't think it's like Kevin Feige.
I don't think it's Tiger Batidi.
It's like the money people, you know?
Yeah.
That's always the way it is, you know?
So kill them.
That's just the way it is.
Don't kill anybody. I mean like in a video game. That's what I mean. That's always the way it is, you know? So kill them. That's just the way it is. Don't kill anybody.
I mean like in a video game.
That's what I mean.
That still counts.
Does it?
Yeah, you can't.
I've killed so many people in video games.
No, I meant like if you say, if you go on the internet,
I don't know how it works in America, but in Australia,
if you're like, I'm going to kill the Prime Minister in Minecraft,
it still counts as a threat.
Oh, really?
Because they're like, you obviously meant to kill the Prime Minister.
Is that what you meant now?
No, I was kidding.
I meant actually in Minecraft.
I'm going to purchase and install a game in Minecraft
and kill a prime minister.
Only I am joking.
I've established a pattern where I'm a big-time jokester.
I love how you do jokes.
And that's funny you should say that because that leads us
into the Hollywood Reporter bringing us news of the Minecraft movie.
Oh.
So Jason Momoa.
God, I'm good at segues.
I know.
And good at writing segues.
That's right.
He's probably going to be in it as Steve or whatever, Minecraft man.
The thing that stuck out for me there was it's going to be live action.
I didn't say live.
Did I say live action?
No, but that's what I read.
Oh, is it?
It's going to be a live action Minecraft movie.
How does that work?
I don't know. Are they going to square his head up? Yeah, they're going to square. Oh, my God. read. Oh, is it? It's going to be a live-action Minecraft movie. How does that work? I don't know.
Are they going to square his head up?
Yeah, they're going to square.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Yes, please.
I'm going to look it up real quick just to make sure.
It's going to be a Sonic situation where, like,
Mr. Minecraft comes into the real world and Jason Momoa has to drive him
across Utah or whatever, and he's like,
I don't want to go to a Minecraft factory or whatever, you know,
whatever a Minecraft movie is about.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Pop Crave says Jason Momoa will star in the live-action Minecraft movie,
THR reports.
That is very upsetting.
Yeah.
Okay, there you go.
Live-action movie.
So, yeah.
And is he going to be Minecraft Dave or whatever?
Probably, maybe, the voice-off.
Does he have a voice?
I don't know.
I don't know.
No.
I don't know.
I know it's an incredible world and there's all stuff you can do
at Exeter.
All I know is there is an incredible world and people build computers
and things in it using the mechanism of the world.
And I do know you can make your way to hell if you really want to.
Oh, wow.
Just like real life.
You can go to Minecraft.
Oh, that's right.
That's great.
Exactly, yeah.
Here's something, though, that's interesting because Jared Hess
is directing this and he, of course, worked on both Napoleon Dynamite
and the one,
Jack Black's a Wrestler or whatever.
Nacho Libre.
Yeah, so there you go.
So I think this could be something.
Like it could be weird and wacky.
I like the idea of like taking a really popular,
like established property and you think it's going to be like a Moji movie.
Maybe you get like a Lego movie or something like that.
You know what I mean?
Something that's better than you'd think, you know?
So it's very possible that this movie, by the time it comes out,
my son is playing Minecraft and I have to see it.
That's true.
Dune producer Mary Parent and Roy Lee will produce.
Oh, okay.
So maybe that's why Momoa is getting involved there.
Makes sense to me.
All right.
I am looking forward to all the people starring in it having to, like,
assert their love for Minecraft and how much they've always loved it.
Yeah, everybody loves Minecraft.
That's why I'm saying it.
Yeah, so that's what you're looking forward to.
That's what I'm looking forward to, yeah.
I played a little bit of Minecraft when I was a teacher
because you do a bit in school or whatever.
It's fun.
I can see why a billion people like it.
I get it.
I understand.
How about this?
Warners has been developing a project based on the game for years
with Sean Levy and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia star Rob McElhenney.
Oh, my God.
Who have been attached to direct.
Wow.
So not anymore, obviously, but there you go.
He's so good at segues, sort of.
Yeah.
Now we're going to talk about.
Actually, what we are going to talk about is it's just all bad news from here.
Oh, no.
It's all bad news until the North.
Oh.
Yeah.
Speaking of the opposite of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Wow, but also that's. It's always sad on this podcast. It is. Also, it's like, I think It's all bad news until the North. Oh. Yeah. Speaking of the opposite of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
Wow, but also that's.
It's always sad on this podcast.
It is.
Also, it's like, I think that's ironic.
Yeah, it is, isn't it?
Because it's like a mean show with mean people in it.
It's a mean show and Philadelphia looks like it does have bad weather.
It does, doesn't it?
Well, the original title was It's Always Sunny on TV, right?
I don't know.
Well, I'm telling you it was.
I'm telling you it wasn't.
Whoa.
Yeah, there you go.
Wow.
Anyway, Netflix troubles, Mason.
So there's been a bunch of reshuffles happening in Netflix.
This is off the back of the news this week that Stranger Things is coming,
the new season, season four.
It's going to be nine episodes.
It's $30 million an episode.
It's actually a lot of money.
When you think about it, yes, it is a lot of money.
Mostly hairspray but still.
So what's actually happened is they lost a huge market share this week.
There was an evaluation.
Stranger things, kids.
No, no, they're fine.
Okay, their value is still fine.
Yeah, there was an evaluation and it basically turned out that it dropped
like massively, like the shares dropped like 54% or something like that.
And I think one of the reasons was that recently something
like 200,000 subscribers have left the platform.
But I think partly a lot of people are like, well,
that's because bloody this and this and this.
But I think one of the reasons is probably because it's,
in a lot of places, it's post-pandemic or, like,
people believe it's post-pandemic and people just aren't home
as much in their life.
And I think they're also.
Why would I pay an increasingly large amount of money
for this thing that I'm not doing anymore?
Well, they did jack up the price.
They reckon they're going to lose another two million maybe this year.
Two million subscribers.
Yeah, but also they're losing – they're still ahead.
They're still winning for now.
Would you say they're still hashtag winning?
Yes.
Very good.
Just take Tiger's blood.
Yes, all of those.
I remember 2011 too.
Mason?
James, every time I watch an A24 movie now,
I can't remember what the last one was,
but it was whatever we watched last week. I don't remember.
No, I can't remember either. I'll look it up.
Have we talked about the trailer for the movie Men?
Oh, yeah. Rory Kinnear. I don't think we have.
We've talked about it. We've talked about it, but there's
a movie on the way. It's an A24
movie. Men.
Exactly. Every time I watch the trailer,
it's about... Did you watch
X after Yang? Did you watch that? I didn't watch that. Everything Everywhere All At Once., it's about if you could get to. Did you watch X after Yang?
Did you watch that?
I didn't watch that.
Everything Everywhere All at Once.
That's the one.
We literally talked about that last week.
God, they make some good stuff, don't they?
Right?
My God.
I'm still not entirely sure what it is.
But it's Jessie Buckley plays a woman who her husband dies
and then she goes to sort of covalesce in a small English town
and everybody in the town is weird
and they're all played by Rory Kinnear.
It's the dude who had sex with the pig in Black Mirror.
That's true.
And he's also in the Bond movies.
He's also in the Bond movies.
I think he'd probably prefer people remember the Bond movies.
Well, he shouldn't have done the pig thing.
I know.
But I just, I've seen that trailer a bunch of times
because it's delightfully creepy.
Every time the title card comes up, I go, man.
He's got different teeth in every scene, doesn't he?
He does.
It's true.
What are my teeth this time?
Anyway, that looks great.
It does look great.
And it's Alex Garland who, of course, wrote your favourite movie,
Sunshine.
And I'm coming around on it.
I think it's good.
Great.
Good movie.
Good for you.
Yeah.
He's very brave of you.
So the other thing is, so Netflix have been like,
we need to pivot because they're losing friends, the show.
They lost that. They lost The Office. They're losing friends, the show. They lost that.
They lost The Office.
They're losing friends in real life.
That's probably true also.
So all of these basically.
Because every time they're like, they're talking to someone,
they're like, I work for Netflix.
And they're like, bring back Glow, you son of a bitch.
At least do it like a movie, like a one-off movie.
Do a movie.
Yeah.
But so all the streaming services, I mean,
they're splitting the Netflix services, I mean,
they're splitting the Netflix content,
which means they have to make more stuff or purchase more stuff.
But the problem is a lot of the stuff they make,
and not all because I still think they make some really good stuff,
is like average or bad, especially movies.
TV shows I think are better, but also even the better stuff,
it appears and then it disappears.
They get one to two seasons usually and then it's gone.
And I've seen plenty of tweets and I've had conversations with people who were like, I don't want to invest my time and my emotions
in these characters.
I think we've talked about that as well.
Certainly we have where it's like, and in two seasons,
we're very invested and there's a cliffhanger or whatever
and they just cancel it.
But nobody seems to want to commit to, okay,
well, we'll just do a show that goes for one season.
Yeah.
Like is the solution to adopt that kind of British TV model
where people go, I have an idea for a story and it's six episodes
and here it is and if it gets renewed, you know.
Well, I wasn't even talking about that.
Oh.
So I actually saw also a video that talked about this week
by Captain Midnight called Netflix Has to Change.
Captain Midnight.
Yeah, you've seen it?
Yeah, I've seen it.
Yeah, cool.
That or this, both?
Because that's his intro as well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm aware of Captain Midnight.
Anyway, he basically talks about how,
and he compares Russian Doll to Succession,
and how when those two things came out,
Succession had low ratings and wasn't talked about as much as Russian Doll.
But Succession had a chance to build year to year and week to week,
whereas Russian Doll came out, everyone loved it,
and they just released season two of Russian Doll.
I haven't watched it yet.
And apparently it's also very good, but there's no hype for that anymore.
And so I think partially it is the stuff isn't always very good.
Partially it is that they cancel a bunch of stuff.
Partially it is that it's not week to week so you don't build hype for a thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
And I like both models.
Like I like the week to week and I also like the dump it all at once.
But I think that's also why they're splitting Stranger Things into two.
So, you know, you hype up two times.
But they are in a bit of trouble and they're going to have to pivot
and there's a few things they've been working on.
One, making a subscription model where it's a lower tier
but they put on ads.
So television.
Well, that's what it's all becoming.
It's all for the amount that I pay for.
I'm basically because I have every subscription service.
Like I'm buying a new bloody TV every week.
Exactly.
But it's like, you know, it's what you'd pay for cable,
you know, essentially now.
It's just gone back to that model.
Foxtel.
Foxtel, the worst system.
Ozstar.
But also, this is how Netflix.
Whatever the Optus one was.
Buzz.
I don't know what Buzz is.
Buzzed.
You're buzzed.
Oh, I've been buzzed?
Yeah, you've been buzzed.
Oh, no.
So Netflix actually, this is how they've responded.
They've fired a bunch of people working in animation.
Yeah.
So Netflix's Director of Creative Leadership and Development
for Original Animation, Phil Reinder,
among many other staff members, will let go.
They also cancelled a bunch of stuff that were coming up.
Bone, you know, the Bone, the comic book series?
That was getting an animated something, and now that's not happening. And this is what his original comment was. We want to make,
we want to be the home of everybody's favorite show, right? But that has now become,
replaced by a new mantra, we want to make what our audience wants to see.
That's what Netflix co-CEO Reed Hastings has said.
Why don't they do that then?
Well, the problem is because now the benchmark,
it used to be, because there used to be a whole bunch
of weird animation stuff on Netflix.
And you'd get like a BoJack Horseman or whatever.
That's true.
But now apparently the benchmark has been the Boss Baby series
because that metrically has done well.
It's a known brand.
It comes out.
Kids watch it, obviously.
Are they even good movies?
I don't know.
I've never seen them.
Also, Netflix don't own Boss Baby.
DreamWorks owns Boss Baby.
I mean, maybe Netflix are involved in the creation of it,
but that's crazy to me, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
The other thing is with animation, apparently the marketing side of things,
it's also in trouble because often they don't announce things
until like a month out, which is so you don't build any hype.
Yeah, yeah.
Because, you know, Netflix is suddenly like,
oh, this thing's coming next month.
You're like, shit, I didn't even know they made that.
And also the marketing only starts a month out.
And sometimes like animators, they're relied upon to like,
you have to push this show for us.
Like it's your job.
Oh, right.
If you want to get this scene again, you've got to.
Well, we had some friends who made Auntie Donna's Big Old House of Fun.
I won't name them.
No.
But they made the TV series Auntie Donna's Big Old House of Fun
and they were basically responsible for pushing that.
I didn't really see that.
We didn't want them on the show.
Yeah.
This show.
They forced themselves in the door.
Yeah.
And they said, we need to talk about this thing.
So, yeah. And so I They forced themselves in the door. Yeah. And they said, we need to talk about this thing. So yeah.
And so I can understand
it's very frustrating.
But I think the answer
is make good stuff,
which is easier to say.
Auntie Donna.
Hey, Auntie Donna.
Lift your gun,
Auntie Donna.
Constantly making good things,
Auntie Donna.
Continue to make good stuff.
So yeah, there you go.
What do you think?
Netflix, good stuff, right?
A lot of people
are cancelling it as well.
I know people.
It looks like, I mean, it feels like a downward spiral here.
I mean, I still have it, but I can write it off on tax.
I never have, but I could.
Wow.
Imagine if you did.
Imagine if I did.
I'd get some amount of money back.
Yeah.
What is it now?
$14 Australian?
No, it's way more than that.
What is it?
Like $20, $25?
God, I'm going to have to start.
Oh, and the other thing I was going to say, I'm going to start splitting my account.
They're stopping that.
They're cracking down on password sharing.
Who do you split it with?
I don't.
I've got my own.
You don't like?
No, I have my own.
I have all my own stuff.
Oh, like separate from your wife?
Oh, except for Disney.
Yes.
Of course, I don't want to see what I'm up to.
Right.
I'm watching Love is Blind Season 2, which I did watch, by the way, Mason.
She knows about that.
You told her about that.
I told her on our podcast, Less Successful, it's called Suggestible.
Wow.
It feels like a downward spiral that we're seeing happen in real time.
Do you think also they grew too big and, like,
you don't get any more than that because it's been divided
and you can only get so many people?
And also, don't they still run at a loss somehow?
Like, are they still millions or billions of dollars in debt somehow?
I think I read that they make, I want to say $30 billion a month.
Maybe it's $3 billion.
They make like $3 billion a month.
Okay.
But that wouldn't cover everything that they do,
which is why they're getting people to market their own shows inexplicably.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, if the data is right and it is the boss baby that people want,
then maybe we're on the – like maybe everybody out there who's like,
oh, I loved Glow and I loved all these other shows,
the nice shows that were fun and really well made and memorable
and what have you, maybe they are the minority
and it will just become a boss baby delivery platform,
in which case I think a lot of – I mean, if they've –
Delivering a boss baby.
Yeah, if they've crunched the numbers and they're like,
even if everybody who doesn't want us anymore is going to cancel,
or the number of people who remember how to cancel are going to cancel,
and we're still going to make our money back with boss baby-like stuff,
like shows developed with an algorithm.
What do they care?
What do they care?
Exactly.
Yep.
Fair enough.
Wow.
There you go.
Anyways, do you want more bad news?
Yeah, I would love more bad news.
This is both Variety and
Hawaii News Now. I think you know where this is
going. So according to the Hawaii Police
Department. New series of Hawaii Fiverr.
Is that still going? I don't know.
Then yes. Nice. I think
Magnum finished. Magnum PI.
Magnum? Like the ice cream?
No, not the ice cream. Magnum PI. Likeum. Like the ice cream. No, not the ice cream.
Magnum PI.
Like the condominium.
No, James.
Okay, cool.
Mason.
Yes.
According to the Hawaii Police Department, Ezra Miller allegedly became irate after,
this is a new thing that happened.
This is a new thing after the previous thing, yes.
After being asked to leave and through a chair, this is at a bar at like 1am,
After being asked to leave and through a chair,
this is at a bar at like 1am, striking a 26-year-old woman on the forehead and resulting in an approximate half-inch cut.
You shouldn't do that, I think.
Yeah, I also think you shouldn't.
I just want to get out of this.
Not even in Minecraft.
Yes.
Correct.
I think you shouldn't do it either.
I think more so you shouldn't do it.
Okay, more so.
Oh, okay.
That's pretty brave of you.
What is going on here? Clearly like spiralling hard. Okay, more so? Oh, okay. That's pretty brave of you. What is going on here?
Clearly, like, spiralling hard.
This person is having a breakdown, yeah.
And you'd think that, like, this is Warner Brothers' time to step in.
You know what I mean?
Sure, yeah.
Seeing what's going on.
But on the other hand, Warner Brothers aren't their dad.
So...
No, I know, but I just mean in terms of making...
Presumably they have a real dad.
But, like, make a comment.
Be like, we don't condone these actions.
Yeah, they haven't done anything.
You're right.
We're taking steps to et cetera.
You know, we care about Ezra and we want them to get the help
that they obviously need or whatever.
But, no, this is according to deadline.
Warner Brothers brass haven't been sweating the Miller headlines.
They're not committed to appear in any more Fantastic Beasts movies
and The Flash doesn't come out in theatres until next summer
on June 2023.
Oh, wow, wow.
The picture is currently in the post at the time,
so there are no plans to reschedule the film or move it to HBO Max.
So I love this strategy of let's just kick this can down the road.
Sure, yeah.
Let's deal with this in a year's time.
Yeah, by the time The Flash movie comes out, different management.
Well, it could also be The Flash comes out and Ezra Miller's fine again
and, like, I was troubled and whatever.
I think that's probably what they're hoping for.
You do an apology tour and whatever, you know?
But what if it doesn't happen, you know?
Great, great point.
Just say something.
I don't know.
I would say something, you know?
But then maybe they're like. If you threw a chair at a woman, I would say something. I would feel oblig. I would say something. Sure. But then maybe they're like.
If you threw a chair at a woman, I would say something.
I would feel obligated.
Wow.
What a betrayal.
You know what I'd say.
You'd say Adam's support, right?
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.
You'd say, I just want to say congratulations to Mason
on his professional wrestling debut because that's what it would be.
Yeah.
It would be a big wrestling joke.
Yeah.
Very good.
So I don't know.
We'll just see how this plays out, I guess.
Congratulations for Meso finally learning the spinning pile driver.
Is that a real move?
Or does that sound like a video game move?
I think it's a street fighter.
I think Zangief and Street Fighter does it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or Hagar from Final Fight.
Hagar, the horrible.
No, James.
Yes, go on. Final Fight and Street Fighter are set in the same universe. Yes, that is yeah. Or Hagar from Final Fight. Hagar, the horrible. No, James. Yes, go on.
Final Fight and Street Fighter are set in the same universe.
Yes, that is true.
Yeah.
But my understanding is that they're different games.
That is very true.
You are correct, yes.
Wow, it's good to get something right for once.
Right?
Delays but not dismays, Mason.
Remember, it's bad news.
It is still bad news.
So you can dismay a little bit.
Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse has been moved from October of this year
to June of 2023.
That's next year.
Presumably to compete with The Flash, which is also coming out around that time.
We want a clean sweep.
We want to absolutely destroy the competition in an embarrassing way.
I think this is good because that's a summer release if you're in the Northern Hemisphere.
That's a summer release.
They get more time to do all the animation and stuff.
So that's fine. And you know what? Sony make a lot of things, don't they? That's right. They do's a summer release. Yep, they get more time to do all the animation and stuff. So that's fine. And you know
what? Sony make a lot of things, don't
they? That's right. They do an Uncharted. They do
a Michael Morbius. Hello, how do you do?
They do a mobile phone. Yeah, they do.
A Sony Ericsson. They do a Sony
Vio. They do a TV-VCR combination.
Do they still do that? Yeah, they do, yeah.
Wow. Can you get me one? For people that work at gas
stations and stuff, they've got that TV-VCR
combo, yeah. Terrific stuff. Yeah've got that. They do, don't they? Yeah.
Terrific stuff.
Yeah.
Hey, I'm watching the game here.
What's up?
Who's playing?
Stop robbing me.
Don't rob me.
Stop robbing me.
That was a real play.
Did you like that?
It was good, yeah.
It was really.
You painted a picture.
I saw all of it in my mind.
But speaking of Sony, there's Morbius Fallout.
You're not going to believe this.
So now we're in the season of Forbius?
Apparently, yeah.
It's bad news all around, yeah.
So this is actually in relation to other studios,
but two Dracula movies.
Well, there's a few Dracula movies in the works.
There's the Nicholas Holt one that's happening with the cage as well.
But two other Dracula movies have been cancelled this week gone.
Now this is specifically, well, one two other Dracula movies have been cancelled this week gone. Now, this is specifically, well, one is a Dracula movie and one is a movie about a Dracula
called Nosferatu.
Correct.
So basically, Blumhouse are doing a Mina Harker movie directed by Karen Kusama.
This was going to start filming in three weeks.
It was set in the modern day and it was a Mina Harker slash Dracula origin story.
Now, Mina Harker is in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen,
the movie, is that correct?
Yes.
No, it is Mina Harker, yes.
She's a Dracula lady.
She is, it's true.
Yeah.
And it's like a Bram Stoker person and whatever
and has ties to Dracula for various reasons.
I can't remember the specifics of that character.
Do you remember?
I just remember the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen version
but that's not the version.
Is she not Jonathan Harker's wife?
Yes.
Okay, great.
I mean, what else?
But she has other things going on.
Hi, I'm Mina Harker.
I'm unrelated to that guy.
What do you mean?
We just have the same name.
It's just a coincidence.
Are you friends?
I mean, we could be friends.
But you're not.
Not currently, no.
No, no, no.
And the other one you mentioned,
and we're going to talk about his movie today,
Robert Eggers is working on a Nosferatu movie.
Yeah, he's been working on it for years.
That was his, like all the stuff he's put out has basically been like,
I really want to do Nosferatu, but I don't know if they're going
to let me do Nosferatu, so I'll do some stuff in the meantime.
Yeah.
And he's just done three.
So he said it's not happening at the moment.
Yeah, he was on Mark Maron's WTF podcast.
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah.
So Anya Taylor-Joy was going to be in it, obviously,
and Willem Dafoe was going to be Nosferatu,
who's already played Nosferatu in a movie, I'm pretty confident.
Okay.
There's a movie, I can't remember what it's called,
where I think it's Willem Dafoe plays Nosferatu,
and he's a real Dracula, but it's about the Nosferatu, that movie that they made,
that Dracula movie from like the 30s or whatever the heck,
whatever the Swiss.
But, yeah, he was like, yeah, he was like,
no, we're not currently making that.
No.
So that's good, I guess, isn't it?
So it could be a coincidence, but it could also be.
No, it's not.
It's people going.
It could be a coincidence, but it could also be.
No, it's not.
It's people going.
The once bulletproof concept of like, what if we put some Draculas in this?
Yeah.
And it'll make big bucks.
Shadow of the Vampire it was called. Shadow of the Vampire, there we go.
In 2001.
I should watch that.
How far we've fallen since the Twilight saga.
My God, it was vampires every day.
Just a license to print money and then all of a sudden one absolutely atrocious one comes out.
And all of a sudden people don't want to make the Dracula movies anymore.
It was there.
Now it was Morbius.
It used to be Dracula 2000.
That was the Dracula killing movie, wasn't it?
That's true, yeah.
Well, there's one in a generation, isn't there?
It's true.
It's like a vampire slayer.
Great stuff.
Hey, James, here's one bit of news.
What's the news?
Did you see this?
What, what, what?
They released some The Batman concept art. Oh, yes, I've seen a bit of news. What's the news? Did you see this? What, what, what? They released some The Batman concept art.
Oh, yes, I've seen a bit of this.
Did you see that?
It just looks like Colin Farrell.
Yeah, Artway Adam Brockbank.
He's looking good.
It's like that is a classic, like, tuxedo black tie,
like the Penguin look.
But, yeah, all the artwork.
And there's some that are very much like that's a Scarface kind of look.
Oh, totally.
They've attempted a bunch of different looks.
They've done the big widow's peak.
Yeah, these are all on Twitter if people want to check them out.
But I just think that's interesting.
And the thing that I didn't know, which you potentially already did know,
is that apparently Matt Reeves wanted the penguin originally to look like he looks
in the Telltale Batman video games when he's a cooler looking guy.
Yeah, yeah.
Let me have a look at that.
I didn't know that.
But then the makeup artist on the movie was like, okay,
we do have Colin Farrell and that's great.
Oh, yeah, he does look like that.
But also, how about I've done this mock-up where he looks hideous.
Yeah.
And then I didn't know they shaved his head.
Yeah, I know.
They shaved the top of his head.
Oh, my God.
Awful.
Oh, my goodness.
Just to walk around like that for months.
Are they doing that for the HBO show?
Great question.
He doesn't look like him at all.
It's a madness, James.
And also what is really convincing about it is that the prosthetics are so good
that you're not like, that's a dude who's got a bunch of shit taped to his face.
Yeah, I mean, I guess potentially maybe the makeup and prosthetics people were like, oh, we thought we were going
to get a penguin-looking guy.
Yeah, yeah.
But if we do it properly, maybe they saw it.
I wonder if they saw it as a challenge.
Like if we do this properly, he will have a functioning
penguin-looking face despite the fact that he looks
like Colin Farrell underneath.
Absolutely.
The telltale penguin has like a soul patch situation going on.
He does too.
If you showed me that, I wouldn't even guess.
But he is a little Colin Farrell-esque.
He does have the widow's peak.
Yeah, absolutely.
Wow.
That's good stuff, mate.
That's a good one bit of news.
Did you see they showed how he puts the prosthetics on?
There was like imagery of that, the whole thing, like the whole process.
Yeah, I mean there was that and there was like they saw them, there's like the few, maybe you did.
Yeah, right.
So it sounds like you have seen it.
That being said though, like Colin Farrell with like the bald on top,
hair on the sides, like he is a man who can absolutely pull.
He looks great bald.
He would look better with the shaped sides as well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's doing a good job.
Yeah.
All right.
Good for him.
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I thought it said finally because I had to look closer,
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I'm a quick and easy recipe.
Exactly.
HelloFresh chefs, they really know how to diversify the menu
with seasonal recipes like salmon, limon, and pasta primavera.
What do you think of those?
I love the sound of those.
Let me tell you.
Exactly.
Now, you might be like, what, do they only have two meals?
No, you idiot.
I would never think that.
Pick no, Mason.
There's more. How many do you think they have? only have two meals? No, you idiot. I would never think that. Pick, no, Mason, there's more.
How many do you think they have?
Three meals.
No, Mason, you idiot.
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and that's just for each week.
Dude, Jiminy Christmas.
Exactly, and skip weeks when you need to change your delivery date
or update your preference all in the HelloFresh app.
For example, Mason, you want me to be like,
what's a meal that you've eaten, James, that you can tell me about?
Yeah, what do you reckon?
Barbecue, beef, brisket, burger and cheddar, crisps and apple, slaw and fries.
My goodness.
Exactly.
That sounds like something you'd get at a fancy restaurant.
It would be.
But it's at your bloody hovel of a home.
Exactly.
It's in my dump where I live, Mason. That's right.
That's not true. I love my house. I think it's a wonderful place.
Why don't you marry a house you love it so much? Maybe I will
marry it, Mason, anyways. But that's
great. But I've got something even better
to tell you, right? There couldn't be anything better
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Nice.
It's nice that they don't make you say it.
It's like you can say this, but I'm saying it.
Yeah.
Wow.
I think if they told you you had to, you would be like.
I wouldn't do it.
That's right.
No, I think that means that it's true.
Do you know what I mean?
Because they're like, do look into it yourself.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Smart.
All right.
On with the show?
Yeah, on with the show.
Great.
I'd love to continue the show, Mason, and we will.
But we have an ad to talk about as well.
Love it.
Do you like ads?
I like to think the ads are the primary part of the show.
I agree.
So.
Whoever you're going to say, I love them.
Great.
Well, let me tell you something about it.
We'll give you the lead up, and then you've got to guess what it is.
Okay.
So have you ever –
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No.
Yes.
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How did you know?
How did you know?
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Okay.
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It's probably not as incognito mode as you think, Mason.
Gasp.
And why would it be?
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Those dastardly.
What's that expression if you don't know what the.
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Yeah.
And what do these big tech companies say when they're called out
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They say incognito mode doesn't mean invisible.
Are you sure they don't say did I do that?
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In a Steve Urkel voice.
That's right.
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That's right.
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What?
Reginald Vell-Johnson.
This ad is...
He's in Die Hard.
What?
He's also in Die Hard.
What are you saying?
It doesn't matter.
Does he have ExpressVPN?
Probably, I hope so.
I knew it.
Yeah, let's ask him.
Mason.
Yes?
There's been a big movie this week, sort of.
Big movie?
Well, big-ish.
There's been a few good movies.
Are you talking about a Marvel movie?
No, Mason.
I wish I was talking...
We're talking about a Marvel movie in a couple of weeks, Mason,
when we're talking about Multiverse of Madness.
The Northmen.
The Northmen.
That's great.
So basically this opened behind The Bad Guys, the animated movie,
where it's like a heist but they're animals or whatever.
Apparently it's an Australian kids' book series
and now it's got a big movie and it's doing really well.
Good for them.
The Northmen, though, has opened at $12.5 million in the US.
In select cinemas, including Northland.
That's right.
Including Northland.
That's right.
But the problem is...
Go see The Northman at Northland.
Northland.
Become a king and eat at Donut King.
Get a donut at the Donut King.
That's what I'd do.
That's what you should do.
God, I haven't had a Donut King donut in a while.
It's not important.
I had a hot jam donut today, a fresh one.
Very good. That's the stuff. I agree. But, you know, when you go to a Donut King donut in a while. It's not important. I had a hot jam donut today, a fresh one. Very good.
That's the stuff.
I agree.
But you know when you go to the Donut King, James,
they come out in a little conveyor belt because they've just squirted them out
and then they heat them up in the oil and then they come out in a little conveyor.
They're fine.
They're the best, James.
You like Krispy Kreme donuts.
Yeah, I bought some today actually.
Yeah, you do.
They're good.
You can put those in the microwave too.
No.
You should.
I don't want to buy any donuts, Mason. Well, too bad. I brought your box. They're you do. You can put those in the microwave too. No. You should. I don't want to buy any donuts,
Mason. Too bad, I brought your box.
They're right here. You have to eat them all.
You're going to do a mukbang right here.
I'll die. That's the point. My heart
will starve. Yes. Come on.
But then we'll light it back up again and you'll
be like, I love Krispy Kreme.
That's right.
We get the big sponsorship. Alright, continue.
I reckon it's going to make $12.5 million this opening weekend in the US.
It has a $90 million budget.
Now, the budget blew out a little bit due to COVID precautions
and multiple delays because, you know,
that's what happened over the past two years.
But the good news is on top of with the bad guys
and Sonic the Hedgehog 2 and the Norfman,
Fantastic Beasts, it's just dropped away.
It's just a bit, okay.
Not completely, but it's not doing well because I know Warner Brothers
this week were like, maybe we'll do some more Fantastic Beasts.
Let's see how this one.
Oh, no.
So they're probably thinking that at the moment.
Good thing they sort of wrapped up that trilogy of films.
Yeah, I knew it.
It was supposed to be five movies.
So this is Robert Eggers.
People might know from The Vivitch and The Lighthouse.
The Lighthouse.
Now, The Vivitch, I actually went to watch it last night.
It was on Amazon Prime.
Go on.
And I was like, I'm going to watch it.
I've never seen it.
I've seen The Lighthouse.
And I turned it on, and then it played for 10 minutes, and then it just went, I'm not
doing this.
Okay.
And I just didn't want to play anymore for some reason.
Did you have to pay for it?
No, it was on there, and I'm like, I'm not paying for this.
There's a free version of it right here.
So I haven't seen The Vich, but I have seen The Lighthouse
and I have, of course, seen The Northman.
What do you think the story was?
The story of The Northman?
Northman.
Have you seen Hamlet?
Yes.
It's the same?
No, slightly different.
But here's the thing.
It's not on a stage for one.
No, that's true.
It's one example.
But here's the thing about this movie and I didn't know it
until we watched it.
I watched this movie and I'm like, big Hamlet vibes in this.
Yes.
This sounds and looks like something.
So the main character's name is Amneth.
Yes.
And when I went to Alexander Skarsgård's Wikipedia page.
House.
When I went to his house, I said, what roles have you played, Alexander Skarsgård?
And he said, well, Amneth in The Norseman.
And it had a link.
And I'm like, that can't be right.
And I clicked it.
And it turns out it's like an old Norseman, and it had a link, and I'm like, that can't be right, and I clicked it, and it turns out it's like an old Norse,
it's an Icelandic saga character fable upon which Hamlet was based.
It's probably fictional.
Yes.
But yes, that's exactly what it is.
And I also didn't know that going into this.
We're laughing and we're learning.
We certainly are.
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
Ha, fa, fa, fa, fa.
So, yeah, I
guess if you didn't know, like
you didn't know who directed this and you saw the
trailers, you'd be like, this is Viking Braveheart.
Yeah, right? It's
Viking. No.
Yeah, it's a
revenge flick.
It's a tale as old as time.
Amneth is a
little
bowl-haired boy.
Yep.
He's part of a Viking family.
His father is the king.
His mother is the queen.
Yep.
Funnily enough.
Yeah.
And his father has a brother.
Yep.
Uncle.
Dracula.
Fjord.
Fjord dude.
No, his name's Uncle.
He played Dracula with the iPad.
It's that guy.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Uncle Dracula.
Anyway.
His name's Claes Bang.
Mm. Yeah. Anyway. Not pronounced like that. Uncle's that guy. Oh, yeah, yeah, Uncle Dracula. Anyway. His name's Claes Bang.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Not pronounced like that.
Uncle Bang is there and he betrays everybody and he kills the king.
And then Amneth is like, I'm a little boy.
I'm going to get out of here.
I'm going to leave it.
I swear my revenge.
I'll come back.
I'm a boy.
I'm a boy.
And then he leaves by the boat and then he comes back.
Yeah.
And he's become a big-time Viking warrior.
Yeah. Or a big Russian warrior.
So he comes in and he's like, I'm going to revenge so hard on everybody.
Maybe revenge isn't the answer to all of your problems.
You know what I mean?
And because it's like, if you know anything about the director behind this,
as someone who's seen 10 Minutes of the Bitch and The Lighthouse,
you know, this isn't going to be a fun time for anybody really.
It's true.
You know what I mean?
No.
And it's very strange.
I heard somebody, as it finished and the lights go up,
someone went, that was weird.
That was pretty weird.
I mean, it's pretty weird.
Two people left in my screening.
Did they really?
Midway through.
Nobody left in mine, yeah.
And not like during a moment of brutal violence or anything.
It's like, ah, not for me.
It was just a conversation was happening or something
was happening on screen.
They're like, well, not for us.
Okay.
We're going to go.
What age? I love this. 50s or 60 us. Okay. We're going to go. What age?
I love this.
50s or 60s.
Something like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They want Brava.
They want the speech about taking lives and freedom.
Well, it's interesting.
And like you said, I think if you – because there's been a lot of Viking-related content recently.
Vikings, certainly.
Some other stuff.
That time travel Viking thing.
What?
The one the lady goes back in time, she falls in love with a Viking or something.
Oh, fucking.
Outlander.
Yes.
There we go.
Yes.
I think that's a Viking show.
It's something like that.
Okay.
I don't think it's.
Is it Viking?
But this does not, this I think doesn't play out.
No.
I mean, I guess it's closer to Vikings, like the show in terms of tone and like, is this
magic?
Or is everyone just tripping out hard like all the time?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Because there's a bit of that in it.
So I guess, yeah, between Braveheart and Vikings, it's more Vikings.
But again, it's not like particularly historically accurate.
You know what I mean?
It's pretty small scale as well.
You're saying it isn't historically accurate.
I think it is.
Well, no, because it's like a fictional man.
It's a fictional, right. But I think in terms of historically accurate. I think it is. Well, no, because it's like a fictional man. Right, but I think
in terms of like geography
and in terms of,
you know,
how people lived
at the time,
I think it is very,
like I think
Eggers seems to take
great pains
to make sure
that sort of stuff
is accurate.
Because what,
I also liked it as well.
I also thought
it was terrific.
But what I thought
was interesting
about this as well, this world, is just terrific. But what I thought was interesting about this as well,
this world, is just horrible.
Horrible people.
Everyone's horrible.
Nobody likes anybody.
Everyone's out for themselves.
Everyone's covered in mud and blood and dirt and just, like,
betraying each other or making each other slaves and then worry
that they're going to become a slave.
But also, but it's also like, you know,
it's very much the era in which they lived.
Like, it's just everybody. Like, it's interesting because it's very easy the era in which they lived. Like it's just everybody, like it's interesting
because it's very easy to make value judgments.
We're like, well, if I lived in Viking times,
I wouldn't take any slaves.
But it's kind of like everybody is just scrabbling to survive
because there's no...
Well, I wouldn't take any slaves.
Well, I also wouldn't.
I wouldn't take any slaves but I wouldn't even harder than you.
So I'd simply survive on my wits and my ability
to grab a salmon out of the river.
But, yeah, it's just, you know, except for these little pockets
of civilisation which aren't really civilisation.
It is a wasteland.
It's just so much, you know, frozen wasteland or just desert or lava.
And it's like what can you get, you know?
What can I get for me?
What's going to get me to the next day, you know?
To be clear just before, we're not going to spoil it for a little bit,
but just to be clear, it's not entirely Hamlet.
No, there are other elements to it.
If you were like, oh, it's Hamlet, I've seen Hamlet, I'm not interested.
It plays out completely differently.
It's just the premise.
Yeah, there's a volcano in it.
There's no volcanoes in Hamlet.
That's true, yeah.
That gets real Revenge of the Sith.
That's right.
All the volcanoes are in The Merchant of Venice.
He sells lava, The Merchant of Venice.
Does he really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I haven't seen that movie.
That's great, Mason.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I think I really like the element of,
so Bill Skarsgård, no, not Bill Skarsgård, sorry.
Alexander Skarsgård.
Alexander Skarsgård.
We'll talk about Bill Skarsgård because we're supposed to be in this.
He's bent on revenge and he's sworn to loyalty to like revenge his father
and save his mother and take back what was the kingdom that was taken from him.
But also like you can see he's just completely blinded.
Well, he's also like misguided and blinded and he's not good.
So even though like you're kind of like, yeah, I guess it's good.
I hope this guy gets his revenge.
But also you're like he's not really worse than – like he's not better than anybody else in this movie.
No, and he's sort of – there is – so there is a gap.
There's a many years gap where you become – you don't see a big –
It starts in 895 or something like that.
985, yes.
985.
You sure?
Yes.
I'll bet my bottom dollar, Mason.
Okay.
I'll look it up. 985, yes. 985. You sure? Yes. I'll bet my bottom dollar, Mason. Okay. I'll look it up.
Keep going.
Okay.
But then there is a – when he leaves and then there's a many years later gap
where he returns and he's become part of a sort of a tribe of Russian
kind of wolfman warriors.
Wolf bear people.
They've taken on the aspects of like, you know –
895 AD.
Wow.
So go on. Wow. Sorry, go on.
Wow.
I feel vindicated.
Bloody thousand years ago.
Who cares, mate?
Exactly.
Get a phone.
Get a phone already.
Yeah, they should get a bloody phone.
Bloody call a bloody someone who cares.
Am I right?
Bloody get a clue.
Anyway, sorry, go on.
It's bloody 890 and late. You know what I. Go on. It's bloody 890 and late.
You know what I mean?
That's very good.
890 and late.
But, yeah, and they are obviously – they're just –
they are like the very epitome of kind of warriors you see in that era.
They're completely ruthless.
They just go and destroy, you know, villages.
Your value is in a group is what you can take for the group.
And they just go and they take over villages and they destroy everything.
And there is a moment quite early on like we see them sort of sack
and destroy this village.
Boy, do they.
And you see like another like mop-headed little boy run away.
Yeah.
And he like he looks at him and he's like, oh, that's what happened
to me in a lot of ways.
And like I'm here and I don't know if I should I be doing this.
There's an aspect of that.
But I also think it would have been a really, really funny move
if we just then followed the movie from the perspective of that little boy
and he got in a little boat and he paddled away
and then he came back a few years ago, a few years later.
To get into that scene as well with them sacking that village
and they kill a bunch of kids and whatever and he just watches.
Yeah.
That's kind of the point where it's like, yeah, he's not the only point
but like he's not good.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
But what could he be?
Exactly.
What's he going to do in that scenario?
If he turned around, all the warriors would eventually bring him down
because he is not.
all the warriors would eventually bring him down.
Yeah. Because he's not, he is not, this is potentially not,
this is not like Viking stuff through the lens of like Hollywood.
There's not like epic Braveheart battles where, you know.
You do a big speech.
You do a big speech or anything like that.
It's like brutal and in the ground and like there is an element
that you see in the trailer where he catches a spear.
Yeah.
That's thrown at him from, like, a parapet.
Yeah.
And he catches it and he immediately, like, hurls it back and kills the guy.
And that's probably, like, the most kind of epic thing,
Hollywood-esque kind of thing that happens.
Because a lot of the battles are kind of not slow in the bad way,
but they feel like they're not choreographed, like, heavily.
And they're probably choreographed that way.
Yes.
Do you know what I mean?
They feel sloppy and most of the time it's like who can brute force this?
Yes, exactly.
You know what I mean?
Like the bigger person or the angrier person.
And he's the biggest person.
He's the biggest person.
He's come back with the power for this revenge but.
Absolutely.
He got bigger than he did in the movie Tarzan.
Yes.
Remember the movie Tarzan?
He got bigger than in the TV series True Blood where he played the character Eric Northman.
Wow.
Yeah.
He got bigger than his character in Zoolander who exploded at a gas station.
That's right.
He got bigger than Stellan Skarsgård.
He probably did.
Yeah, I think so.
Let's talk about the cast, though, because so his –
I'm trying not to spoil this.
But basically he asked – so he's going to find his uncle
who killed his father.
And his uncle started up –
Not where he left him.
No, that's right.
Started up a different family.
Yes.
He's tried to start fresh.
And he's got an eldest son who's, like,
probably eight years younger than he is or however old he was supposed to be.
Whatever happened.
The age when he left, whatever, whatever.
You're doing a very good job not spoiling this movie.
Thank you, Mason.
By not saying any correct sentences.
And I'm going to follow in your footsteps.
But he was supposed to be played by Bill Skarsgård.
I think that would have been interesting.
As Pennywise.
Because they're brothers in real life, obviously.
But also because they're technically would be half brothers.
Yeah, right, right.
Because Nicole Kidman is like mother to them both.
But I like that element of him.
He goes to another village and there is this whole other life
that they've built where he's just going to try and disrupt.
And, like, again, they're not worse than him.
They're just all trying to survive survive but he can't like get past
the fact that like no i'm gonna i need to take what's mine because i swore an oath to another
bad person yeah well it's interesting because i was listening to the his episode of wtf with
mark maron did he talk about how many food he ate for the to get in shape oh no this is eggers
this is okay did he talk about how many food he ate? Yeah, just regular food, I think. Just regular on-set catering.
But they were talking about, you know, his other various works
and like what they're about.
And Eggers said, well, it turned out The Lighthouse
was about toxic masculinity.
Like it kind of like, because that movie, if you've seen it,
there's a lot of sort of vaguely connected vignettes of two,
an insane man
and a man who is becoming insane.
Yeah.
And you can sort of come away with your own interpretation.
And I think a lot of people came away with the interpretation of like two men unchecked
who have been raised a certain way.
Yeah.
This is what they turn into.
And I think it's kind of a similar vibe to this because this is a kid who's grown up in this society where it's like you need to be strong and violent and you have to you know the society is
like you've got to respect your elders and if they say to do this then you have to do this yeah and
like you can there's a there's a moment Ethan Hawke is his father yes he's the king and uh
Ethan Hawke's like I don't want to I don't want to be some gray beard I don't want to be like a die in battle exactly I want to die about I don't want to be some greybeard. I don't want to be like a man.
Die in battle.
Exactly.
I want to die in battle.
I don't want to be one of these useless greybeards who was a coward
and I lived so long because I was a coward.
Yeah.
And I didn't do it.
So like it's that society of like you.
You go out hot and on top.
You go out hot and on.
You absolutely die hot and on top.
And he's sort of, he's left that society and he's gone
into another society.
It's mostly the same.
Yeah, similar but even worse and it's just like it's this mindset
has been piled onto him and it's like it's easy to look back
as people in the 21st century and go, well, this is a bit toxic, isn't it?
He should probably touch some grass.
He's doing nothing but touching grass.
That's all he does.
It wouldn't have helped him.
But it's just like, yeah, and then he's come back.
Maybe he needs some screen time.
Maybe he needs a little bit of iPad time, yeah.
But, yeah, like he's turned into this ravenous wolf of a character
who just wants this revenge.
And why?
Yeah.
You know?
It's kind of like because I think he kind of loses sight of like why is he even doing this?
Man, you're losing your objectivity here, man.
Yeah, exactly.
Anyway, just to quickly round out the cast,
Anya Taylor-Joy, of course, she's back.
She was in The Witch and she was going to be in Nosferatu,
which we talked about.
And she's the lighthouse.
And she's the lighthouse.
Willem Dafoe's like, ah, I'm here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ah.
Ah.
That's good stuff.
Nicole Kidman, obviously.
Ethan Hawke, Dracula with an iPad.
Bjork is in this as a theory or witch kind of lady.
It's pronounced Bjark.
Is it?
Mm-hmm.
Is it?
No, it's pronounced Bjerk.
What did I say?
You said Bjork.
It's Bjork, Bjork.
Yeah, thank you.
Anyway, Jorts is in this.
But look, and just before we get into spoilers,
it's a great looking movie.
It's beautifully shot. It'slooking movie. It's beautifully shot.
It's got great.
It's beautifully shot.
What's the aspect ratio of this?
Slightly different than a normal movie, I think.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Let me check.
You know, it's that moment when you get in the cinema
and, like, the ads finish and then you just see the curtains change
slightly in the.
And I'm like, what is this?
Yeah, yeah, but it's slightly different.
I don't know if it's, like, a historically important.
Because the lighthouse is.
Aspect ratio.
Yeah, that was 4.3 or something.
Yeah.
Yeah, like this movie has like beautiful textures,
like not only like all the little outfits everybody wears.
Yeah.
Well, Eggers apparently is a theatre kid,
which is why there's so much.
Okay, that makes sense.
Like a production and costume and stuff like that.
But like just in terms of the world that they live in,
it's just like beautiful shots of it.
I'm like, man, I want to go to Iceland now.
Oh, absolutely.
I want to jump into a volcano.
What do you want to do in there?
Go for a swim in a volcano?
Yeah, go for a swim in a volcano.
But just like, you know, there'll be a scene set in a village
or a forest where it's been snowing and there's the snow in the air
and snow on the ground.
But then like there'll just be a second where it cuts through to like the beautiful blue sky behind the clouds
and I'm like, oh, this is a good looking movie.
And there is like a few one-ers in this.
Not to like a crazy extent.
When you say a one-er, like a –
Oh, it's like one single take or whatever.
Or made to look like one single take.
Yeah, all that, yeah.
But it's like there's – I mean, generally when someone does a one-er,
they know what they're doing, but it is like every kind of movement and everything you see within that is
just framed so incredibly.
Like the Viking raids are definitely –
Yeah, it's amazing.
It says they – apparently IMDB says it's 2.35 aspect ratio,
but other people are saying, no, they think it's 1.85 because there's no,
like, black bars.
It's like a slightly taller than you would think.
I mean, it's no Zack Side.
It's Justice League, which is the tallest movie in the world.
There you go.
Very tall.
Spoiling this.
Ah, yeah.
So who else?
Is that everyone?
Yeah, everyone's in this.
Everyone are.
And some kids and stuff.
Some ball cuts.
What I think is interesting about this movie is-
It's Alexander Skagard hair.
It changes.
Like at the start, he's got a ball cut when he was a kid.
Then he comes back and he's got long hair.
And then he cuts it slightly shorter.
But then he goes-
No, he's short.
Then he goes on a boat trip.
And then by the time he gets there, it's long again.
And then he cuts it back to his little bob. His, no, he's short. Then he goes on a boat trip and then by the time he gets there, it's long again.
And then he cuts it back to his little bob, his little bowl cut.
It's a real circle of life.
It's not like a hero's haircut really, is it? No, it's very much one, yeah.
It's out of my face.
Well, we'll talk about that in spoilers, I think.
I think that's important for that.
But my parents were like, is this movie violent?
They'd seen it.
They're like, is it, you know, it's a Viking movie.
Is it violent?
And I'm like, yes, but not really.
Like crazy.
But it's interesting because there's like beheadings.
Yeah.
And there's a bit of guts.
There's guts coming out.
There's like body parts being turned into a horse, for example.
Oh, that's fun.
But it's not.
I wasn't like, I would say it's less violent than like Braveheart.
Definitely.
And a lot of the, I would say a lot of like the violence associated
with Vikings, it's more implied than it is.
What about the doobeth and the.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That's probably the most violent bit.
Yeah, okay.
I did a couple of actions then which I'll.
There's more, yeah, I guess there's more violence.
There's a sort of like some fits of violence at the start,
which make it kind of maybe that sets the tone.
Maybe we're desensitised.
Well, I also had that thought.
I'm like maybe.
I feel like a lot of the violence doesn't linger, you know what I mean,
except for that one thing I was talking about.
Yeah, I think the movie is set up to be like it's not intended to be brutally or like viscerally violent for the most part.
Yeah.
Or maybe it's just like when it hits, we want it to hit hard.
And boy does it.
But again, maybe we are desensitized.
He caught that spear though and that's violent.
That is very violent.
Spoilers?
Let me think.
Have we missed anything?
Probably.
Probably tons of stuff.
Oh, it is a sort of a magical world.
That's the only thing I was going to mention.
Yeah, I think it is.
But I think it's just also people who are just blind with rage
and very mentally unwell and they have weird dreams
and they're probably malnourished.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
And they've got the religion where they believe the gods are doing stuff for them.
Anyway, yeah, I'm going to say Best Movie Ever.
I think people should check it out.
I think if you're –
I think it's a movie that –
like it's a movie that I've thought about after watching it.
A rare breed these days.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Like, okay.
We're the choice of a few options this week because there's so much out.
There's The Lost City and Ambulance and other stuff.
Bad Guys.
Yeah, The Bad Guys.
Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent is also out this week.
We'll get to one of those next week.
But I think people should definitely check this out.
I think if you do like your Marvel movies and you're like,
I want something with a bit more meat to it, I reckon check it out.
Absolutely.
And also, you know, it is based on a myth.
Yep.
But it is an original.
It's not a.
No.
It's based on a public domain story. Yeah, you're not like. It's not a. No, you. It's based on a public domain story.
Yeah, you're not like.
It's original in a manner of speaking.
You're not like, I've seen this origin story before.
That's true, yeah.
Yeah.
All right, spoilers.
Yeah.
Best movie ever.
Best movie ever.
I agree.
So, yeah, like, knowing that it's Robert Eggers and, like, going into this.
Eggsy.
What do you think his nickname would be in Australia?
Egg.
You think Egg?
Big Egg.
I reckon it would be Yoko Ono.
Because you'd go Eggers.
What about Yoko Robbo?
That's not bad because I think if his name was like Eggsburg,
they'd call him Eggers.
Okay.
But if he's already Eggers, we'd go Eggs, then we'd go Yoke,
then we'd go Yoko Ono.
You get longer and weirder.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what happens.
That's the evolution.
And the more you object to it, the more people are going to. They pile it on you. Pile it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what happens. That's the evolution. And the more you object to it, the more people are going to.
They pile it on you.
Pile it on you, yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, but I just think.
Like Holliday's sauce on an eggs Benedict.
Beautiful.
I love the idea in this that all he wants is revenge.
Yeah.
And there's a moment where he's like, what am I doing?
I could take Anya Taylor-Joy and I can leave.
I'm going to start a new family lineage, which is the point of all of this.
I'm going to do that.
But he can't get out of his own way.
He can't get out of that headspace.
So he's happy to go and fight at a big volcano and die doing that.
Yeah, yeah.
And I guess he's going to have children or he's not
because he made it up in his brain that that's what's going to happen yeah i
mean we don't we don't see the uh we don't see anya taylor joy's character again after he leaves
except in that yeah sort of um hallucination he has where he has two beautiful children he's like
well i've done the right thing here you haven't though have you like he was doomed from the start
i think that like that's interesting i think that's a really interesting character arc because in a lot of movies like this
we would have seen a happy ending
or at the very least
we would have cut to her and she's holding the babies
exactly yeah yeah
but she's going to have a fucking hell of a time
because she was a slave
and being a woman in this time
in this place
is not good
and giving birth to twins you'd very easily die doing that.
And then you've got to keep them alive.
You know what I mean?
Like trip?
You could trip.
You drop one down a well.
Right.
You know?
And I also thought that mirrored like Nicole Kidman's character
because what he's doing the whole time, what he's thought since a kid was,
I'm going to rescue my mother.
And when he goes to rescue her, she's like, I don't even like you.
Yeah.
And I organised your father being killed.
And it's revealed that she was also a slave.
Yeah.
And, you know, because the story is that she's from Britain or whatever,
isn't that?
Yeah.
But she's from some far exotic land.
But that was all kind of made up.
Some horrible little plague island. Because she was a slave that Ethan Hawke that? Yeah. But she's from some far exotic land, but that was all kind of made up. Some horrible little plague island.
Because she was a slave that Ethan Hawke captured and had a child with.
Made her his wife, yeah.
And Ethan Hawke's brother was slightly nicer to her,
so she went, I'll get that guy to kill Ethan Hawke.
And so she's only trying to survive, you know what I mean?
Like he is.
She's just like, I'm just going to do what I can to not die.
But I thought that was a really interesting twist on this idea.
Yeah, totally.
Yeah, he built this mantra into his brain.
I'm going to, what was it?
I'm going to rescue you, mother.
I'm going to avenge you, father.
I'm going to kill my uncle, whatever.
And then that's been in his head for literally a decade maybe or more.
Where did he get that sword?
I mean, I know he got it from the ghost, the Dark Souls fight that he has.
He got it from the Dark Souls fight, yeah.
How did he find it?
I guess it is magic.
Well, I mean, maybe, but he was told about it.
Yeah, by the witch.
By the witch.
Yes.
Who wasn't real maybe.
But where did he go to get it?
Like he just kind of drops into a hole.
He does, that's true.
And then he's there. Yeah, look, I don't know. I think the- It's not important go to get it? Like he just kind of drops into a hole. He does, that's true. And then he's there.
Yeah, look, I don't know.
I think the –
It's not important really, is it?
This isn't one of those movies where you're like, well,
where did he even – what does that make –
I'm just more of a curious –
Well, I guess it was like an old – like a previous generation's
warrior king who like all this stuff was somebody just shivved him
or whatever and
no or and then just was papered over you know and he got that beautiful sword you know what this is
a bit like uh less fantastical that like the green knight yeah you know what i mean like it's a it's
you think it's like a hero's journey just a terrible person you know what i mean yeah yeah
just a terrible and i i again i love the idea and i think that it played really well like you said
when he he begins life is like this mop-headed little boy and then he becomes this viking warrior
and by the end he's just he's just the mop-headed little boy and he's like he's got his sad eyes
yeah yeah and he's you know he's and just just this this you know he he like you said, his brain has been so consumed
by this revenge that when he and his beautiful lady get on the boat
to go to her land and they've got on the,
I guess they've got on the colours of that country.
Yeah.
There's the new.
They're feeling good.
That's a sweet new look.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
I like it every time Iron Man gets a new suit.
You will love it when he puts on the beautiful slate blue.
Yeah.
Of wherever Anya Taylor-Joy's character's from.
And then he's just like, oh, if I don't kill them, they'll find us.
Yeah.
Will they?
They probably won't.
I don't think they will.
They won't even know where you're gone, really.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just that, God, just to throw everything away. You know what I mean? Yeah. Just that, God, just to throw everything away.
You know what I mean?
God damn.
But I just thought that was really interesting as well to be like when Nicole Kidman's character,
because the way that he sees when he escapes after his father is murdered as a child.
She's been carried away and screaming.
She's been carried away and screaming, but she's like, I was laughing.
I was like, you did it.
Well done.
I've been rescued from this guy.
Now I'm with this guy or whatever because you were nice to me or whatever and this is my idea and i just i i even wonder like is that even true that she was laughing yeah or is that
his perspective of what was happening maybe she was screaming and she's maybe she's um this is
the story she now tells herself she tells herself to get through this horrible yeah situation she's
in maybe i don't know yeah yeah god because there tells herself to get through this horrible situation she's in maybe.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
God.
Because there is a moment in this where she's like,
you could be my king.
Yeah.
And was there a second where she's like,
and this could get me out of this situation.
Yeah, that's right.
But he wasn't buying it so I'm going to kill him, you know. Yeah, that's it.
God.
What a movie.
What a horrible, horrible universe to live in.
Get a phone.
Get a phone. God. Get a landline. Call your mum horrible universe to live in. Get a phone. Get a phone.
God.
Get a landline.
Call your mum.
Be like, I'm sorry.
Yeah.
And she could be like, I don't care.
I'm with your uncle now.
He's cool actually.
And even him was like, I felt like his uncle wasn't worse than his dad.
Probably better.
Maybe.
I don't know.
Not worse.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know?
The only one.
Does anybody get out of this unscathed?
Maybe Anya Taylor-Joy because we don't see what happens to her.
We don't see what happens to her, but also we don't know what kind of.
Some of the slaves, maybe.
We don't know what kind of person she was before this,
but she does know how to make poison.
That's true.
She's probably not that great of a person.
Yeah, and I guess the other thing is, like, yeah,
she's probably not good either, you know?
Yeah.
Because she's just kind of like, this is a big guy.
Let's hang out with this guy.
Yeah.
I'll help this guy do this thing.
Yeah.
And then I'll get out of this.
I'll hang out with this Jack Reacher guy.
He'll beat up everybody I need to get beaten up.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Anyway, check it out.
Yeah.
If you could.
If you want to.
But a little bit more money in this than a lot of A24 stuff.
Ah. Which, that's not an insult to the other stuff.
No.
But, yeah, there you go.
Interesting model that they have, which is just like,
you got a weird thing?
You got a weird thing to show us?
All right, we'll do it.
We'll do a weird thing.
Good on them.
All right, Mason, unless you've got other things to say or do,
let's move on to the next segment of the show.
What do you got to do?
What do you got to do?
I've got to pick up my dry cleaning.
Oh, my God. Can you pick up my dry cleaning? Yes. It's actually at a different dry cleaners. You're going on to the next segment of the show. I've got some things to do. What have you got to do? I've got to pick up my dry cleaning. Oh, my God.
Can you pick up my dry cleaning?
Yes.
It's actually at a different dry cleaners.
You're going to have to go out of your way.
That's fine.
Yeah, that's cool.
I can write it off and tax her.
Oh, yeah, you are paying for it, aren't you?
Yeah.
It's time for What Are We Reading?
What are we going to read?
I'm doing a thing.
Westworld?
Whoa.
Wow, Mason. I know you come in here every week and you've got something you've been Westworld? Oh, Mason.
I know you come in here every week and you've got something you've been Westworlding.
Oh.
And what have you been Westworlding?
Reading this week or doing?
I don't think I have been Westworlding anything this week,
but I am going to get to Russian Doll because we know it's out now.
And you want to see this before they cancel it.
Exactly right.
And delete it all.
But, man, I love Natasha Lyon in this.
A lot of people have said she should be the new Columbo.
I would love that.
I like that, yeah.
That's good.
Or just give her her own show.
Lady Columbo?
Yeah.
We could reboot Mrs. Columbo.
Mrs. Columbo.
No, I just mean like, you know, because give her a better show.
Give her a better show.
I don't have to hear about how they're ruining Columbo.
But also, who would do that?
Yeah.
You know?
That's a great point.
You can't do it.
If it's not an existing IP, it ain't happening.
It ain't happening, baby.
Yeah, baby.
It's interesting that, like, she was in the American Pie movies
and she's never, like, gone away.
But, you know, and then she's had this resurgence
with this, like, completely bizarre off-the-wall show.
Yeah, right.
So do you even know what the second season is about?
Time travel.
What?
Yeah, it's time travel this time.
Cool.
Right?
All right, I'm going to check that out.
Because for people who don't remember, in the previous season,
she played a woman who was at a party.
She's in the bathroom at a party.
She emerges, and she keeps getting killed.
And she keeps Groundhog Daying back.
Yep.
And the question is, how'd she get trapped in this time loop?
I can't even remember how.
I can't remember either.
But she did it.
There'll be a recap at the start of the first episode of this, I would guess.
Or it's not relevant.
Maybe it's not relevant.
That's true.
Well, I actually talked about what I'm going to talk about, Mason, this week on Suggestible.
Okay.
But I'm going to talk about it here again because I want to give it a bit of an amplified
situation.
This is Gustav and Henry, Volume 1.
Oh, that's Andy Matthews' book.
That's right.
Andy Matthews, as people might know from the Two in the Think Tank podcast, has been on
this podcast, of course, before with Alistair Tremblay, virtual shows of the comedy show, et cetera, and so forth.
Right for our Sean McAuliffe show on the ABC,
very funny comedian and man and sketch writer.
So this is a hard-hitting political comedy book for children.
That's right.
No, it's not that at all.
So basically it's a – so look, if you're kids like Captain Underpants
or Dog Man or something in that vein, do you know what I mean?
This is what they've basically done here.
It's a book that he's written.
Peter Thomas.
Illustrated, yeah.
Illustrated, that's exactly right.
So the first volume has three adventures that they go on,
so it's broken into three parts.
There's one when they go to the moon to retrieve a shuttlecock from a crab.
Oh, yeah.
There's a time travel story. All right, like Russian Doll Season 2. There's one when they go to the moon to retrieve a shuttlecock from a crab. Oh, yeah. There's a time travel story.
All right, like Russian Doll Season 2.
That's right.
And there's a detective mystery, right?
And it's just really funny and really great.
He sent me a copy and I read it with my son
and we broke it up over the week so he didn't read it all in one.
Sent me a copy.
I read it alone.
And what did you think?
Great, loved it.
I've read it.
I've read it.
Yeah, it was so fun and think? Great, loved it. I've read it. I've read it. Yeah, it was so fun.
And my son like absolutely genuinely loved it.
And like it's got – and I spoke about before about how it's got like jokes
for kids and adults and that is true.
But there's a lot of stuff which is –
Like early Simpsons.
That's right.
But there's a lot of stuff that's like just funny like regardless.
Nice.
You know what I mean?
So look, if you're looking for something like different that's not like,
you know, like a, I don't know, whatever they sell in kids' stores.
You know what I mean?
I feel like also, and again, I mentioned this.
Nerf guns.
Yeah.
If you're looking for something a little different from nerf guns.
But, you know, like celebrities do kids' books and they're whatever.
Yeah.
Or they clearly have had it ghostwritten or whatever.
This is like not that.
There's so much love and attention and care
and like the amount of jokes in it and it's just,
it works really well and there's like an internal logic
to the universe and, you know.
Now it's a graphic novel.
It's a mix of kind of like a bunch of stuff.
Like there's recipes in it and word finds
and just like stuff in between.
But yeah, it's mostly that part of it.
Well, I'm excited to read it and see if they've stuck in any,
if Andy's stuck in any two in the think tank sketches. They probably, they've mostly that part of it. Well, I'm excited to read it and see if Andy's stuck in any
two-in-the-think tank sketches.
They probably have done so many that probably, yes.
I wouldn't surprise them.
Well, I was going to say, that's why I haven't done anything this week
because I mostly saw Melbourne International Comedy Festival shows.
Yeah.
Why don't you recommend some of the shows you saw?
You can't.
It's over.
It's over.
Well, here's the thing.
First of all, I did go on Do Go On's live podcast.
Oh, you did too.
So people can listen to that. Wow. That's out right now. Wow all, I did go on Do Go On's live podcast, so people can listen to that.
Wow.
That's out right now.
But I did see a bunch of shows.
I did see a friend of the show, Ben Russell,
from Gamey Gamey Game Show.
Oh, yeah.
And Maggie Luke had a show called Ultimate Hollywood Tours,
which was a very silly but very well-produced kind of like,
it was like a walking tour that walks back and forth
between like two alleyways.
And it's Ben doing a bunch of characters and there's like – you put on like headphones and there was lots of like audio cues and like –
Oh, really?
Like a fun soundscape of like – and we were all the people on the Hollywood tour and we met various colorful characters and what have you.
But anyway, at the end of the show, I said that was really great.
Good work.
That's fun.
And Maggie said, can you tell people about it?
And I said, isn't it sold out?
And she said, yeah, but can you tell people anyway?
So I'm telling people it was a really good show.
If they do it again, if they do it again in your town,
you should check it out.
What's it called?
It's called Ultimate Hollywood Tours.
Perfect.
Excellent.
I saw a bunch of other bloody comedy festival shows.
I saw quite a few. It was a good time.
Absolutely a good time and good fun.
Like you said, it's too late.
They're all gone. But they're moving on to different
things. They are. If you're up in Sydney, the Sydney Comedy Festival
is starting very soon and there's a lot of great shows as well.
Adelaide's already happened.
Perth, internationally.
New York Comedy Festival.
Also, Gustav and Henry, I'll link it below.
Or Collings will link it below, but you can get it anywhere.
You know what I mean?
It's online.
It's in stores.
Vending machines.
Yeah, if you're not in Australia, I don't know specifically,
but get it online.
Get it.
Support small publishers and business.
Okay, I will.
You know what I mean?
I'm going to.
Yeah.
Not that it's small publishing.
It's got like a wide release.
HarperCollins, I think, yeah.
But still, yeah, that's not HarperCollins.
Is it?
No, no, no. Maybe it is. Maybe it's a subsidiary of. Hardy Grant. Okay, I think that's a subsidi relation. Harper Collins, I think. That's not Harper Collins. Is it?
Maybe it is.
Maybe it's a subsidiary of.
Hardy Grant.
Okay.
I think that's a subsidiary of Harper Collins.
You're a subsidiary of my balls, Mason.
That's not true.
If anything, you're a subsidiary of my balls.
What?
Yeah, that's right.
I hate that.
It was fun when I said it.
If anything, you're probably a bloody soul trader, if you know what I mean.
What does that mean?
I don't know You know what it's time for?
What's it time for?
It's the next segment of the show
Oh, letters
It's letters
Yeah
The classic one was
Letters, oh letters
We love you
Some letters
They're only a day away
I know they're here right now
We're going to do letters
Mason, we come to this show and we bring our own letters.
I might get a letter from email.
I'm sorry.
You might get a letter from email, weeklypanapod at gmail.com.
I might get a letter from hashtag weeklypanapod on Twitter.
That is correct.
But each of us bring the exact same amount of letters.
Let's say at the same time how many we brought.
One, two, three.
Three?
Oh, no.
You give me two minutes no i was good okay anyway
what's your letter this week i've got so many letters james what do you got this one's from
george hello george from george in scotland no less wow uh hi guys big fan of the show love your
takes on things i also enjoy or despise i recently started a new job working from home and it's all
messaging customers via whatsapp so i've got my ears free for listening to podcasts all day
while getting paid. Result, can you recommend me your top three pods
other than yours and suggestible to get in my ears and distract me so I
catastrophically bungle my job? Thanks. Also, can I be the official permanent PJ
Scotsman? All the best, George. I haven't really been doing podcasts lately, to be
honest. Just crack open your bloody, I'm going to crack open
me, not Spotify.
Yeah, like I go in here and I'm like,
oh, look at all these. And I'm like, I don't even listen to any of these anymore.
How about Confessions of the Idiots?
I mean, it's a great show. It's a great show.
I've been on it. You've been on it.
Yep, I've been on it.
That's our friend Sammy P
who brings in a couple of guests every week.
He reads weird confessions from the internet and we make fun of them.
That's right.
That's really good.
That's a great show.
My wife has a podcast called Taunts where she talks to interesting people
about interesting stuff.
Oh, why hasn't she had me on?
No, because you had nothing to say.
I think she asked you.
No, she did, yeah.
And you said no.
That's true.
You said no, Claire.
I said no, Claire.
I don't get paid for that, so no. Yeah. I very much enjoy Two in the Think Tank. did, yeah. And you said no. That's true. You said no, Claire. I said no, Claire. I don't get paid for that, so no.
Yeah.
I very much enjoy Two in the Think Tank.
Oh, yeah, that's a great show.
These ones I've been enjoying recently.
Our friends Al and Andy come up with five sketch ideas every week.
I did see the Do Go On Quiz comedy live show with two award-winning guest stars.
Great.
At the comedy festival.
Very nice.
That's right.
It was Will Anderson.
And who won the best thing you've done?
Daniel Walker.
Yes. She won the John Pinder prize. She won the best thing. Yes, that's right. And who won the best thing, the best thing you've done? Daniel Walker. Yes.
He won the John Pinder prize.
He won the best thing.
Yes, that's right.
Yes.
Man, I wish I could win the best thing.
You could do it.
I believe in you.
All right, I will.
And what's a third one?
There's so many.
That's the problem.
And I love podcasts.
I mostly just listen to YouTube.
You know what I mean?
I'm listening to YouTube and I'm like, I'm not watching this video, but I'm listening
to it.
All right.
Yeah.
I have no more suggestions.
Wow.
But there's all the suggestions you're going to get out of me.
That's right.
Daniel the Temp.
He says, hashtag weekly planet pod.
Hope you boys get a chance to talk about ambulance on the pod.
I thought it was ridiculously tense and Gyllenhaal's performance was kind of hilarious.
Also, the action and drone shots had my jaw on the floor.
One of Bay's best questions.
Oh, interesting.
I do want to see that.
I'm going to see that this week.
Maybe we'll talk about it next week. Oh, Total Reboot, which we've both been on. Oh, yeah. We've want to see that. I'm going to try and see that this week. Maybe we'll talk about it
next week.
Oh, Total Reboot,
which we've both been to.
Oh, yeah, we've both been.
That's a great show.
Alexi and Cam,
just talking bloody movies,
having a great time.
I agree.
Have you seen Ambulance yet?
Because we talked about
like...
No, I haven't.
No, no, no.
I had to make a choice this week
and it was...
You think you made the right choice?
I think I did.
You made the right choice?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cool.
Do you have another letter, Mason? I do. Let's go. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to. You made the right choice? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. Do you have another letter, Mason?
I do.
Let's go.
You know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to do another podcast.
Oh, my God, Mason.
Get over your podcast.
No, I love it.
That was two letters ago.
Okay.
You should also listen to Big Natural Talents, which is a podcast by Lauren Bonner and Chet
Caristo, and it's a podcast all about gossip.
Oh, I love gossip.
They bring gossip to the table.
They bring in guests. What's the gossip about? Is it people in their lives? Is it big about gossip. Oh, I love gossip. They bring gossip to the table. They bring in guests.
What's the gossip about?
Is it people in their lives?
Is it big-time gossip?
Yeah, no, I mean it's big-time gossip, but like what's interesting
about this podcast is just anybody's gossip is incredible.
You know what I mean?
Like when you really break it down, like if you're at a cafe or something
and Claire's like, okay, see that waiter?
Yeah.
He's married and he's sleeping with a boss and she's also married.
You'd be like, oh, my God.
Even if you don't know him and you'll never see him again.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You'd be like, oh, my God.
That's really interesting.
No, you're absolutely right.
So they bring the goss and they have listeners who bring in the goss.
It's a good fun time if you love goss.
All right, cool.
And who doesn't?
I reckon check it out.
There is actually an episode with Alexi and Cam.
It's goss but also ghost stories.
Wow.
That's a recent episode so people should check that out.
A combination.
Yeah.
Goss, gossip, gossip, gossip girl.
Gossip goss, yeah.
Gossip girl, gossip, ghosted girl.
Gossip ghost.
There's something in there, isn't it?
Yeah.
Gossip murdered person.
Very good. Oh, okay. Gossip murdered person. Very good.
Okay, here's a bloody email for you.
Here's a bloody email.
I'm waiting, Mason.
There you are.
This is from Jack.
It says, no funny anecdotes, just a big fat thank you.
Oh, wow.
Hey, guys, just wanted to send my regards all the way from sunny old Yorkshire.
Hello, I'm from Norkshire.
Norkshire is where you're from.
That's what I said.
That's how they say it.
Yeah, that's true.
Been listening for as long as I can remember now,
so I thought I'd at least owe you some thanks.
Wow.
I enjoyed all the top-notch content throughout Monthbius
and now very much looking forward to what's in store for Dr. Month
and the Monthiverse of Monthness.
Oh, there's going to be so much stuff going on for Dr. Month, isn't there?
That's two weeks away.
My girlfriend is also very happy with the Twilight content.
However, I've now developed trust issues.
Yeah, you should.
Thanks to us.
Yeah, well, you know, happy to help.
Finally, we'd love to see you cover the Edgar Wright Cornetto trilogy
or perhaps some OG Doctor Who episodes.
Did we do that?
I don't think we did.
On the podcast we did.
I'm pretty sure we did.
Oh, we did.
There was an episode on it, yeah.
Like years ago.
Our next Edgar Wright thing that comes out.
We'll do it.
If it's a big fun time. If it's a big fun time.
If it's a big fun silly time.
Absolutely.
What is the next thing he's working on?
I've got no idea.
Don't know.
Don't know.
We met him that time.
We did meet him that time.
So he'll remember.
I'll ask him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mason.
Go on.
Got one here from Stephen who says,
Hashtag Wicked Planet Pod.
As a torret is associated with the rebirth of the dead,
this is a – oh, by the way, this is in relation to Moon Knight.
Okay.
We do a Moon Knight recap.
That's true, we do.
Colin's editing them every week.
Do you reckon somehow that Mark and Steven will be resurrected
but in separate bodies?
This is spoilers.
Like in the asylum with Mark remaining as Moon Knight
and Steven leaving with Layla.
Is it that kind of world?
I don't think it is.
No, no, I don't think it is.
Because I think the further you push into like this isn't mental health.
Yeah.
He's not having a big.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wonder if the resolution might be that they will still exist
in the one body but they will have, maybe they'll have a sort of.
Simpatico relationship.
Simpatico relationship or maybe like,
because it seems like whoever is stuck, like,
not in control of the body is essentially in some sort of hell.
Yeah.
Like maybe they'll be, like, we'll see at the end maybe that the
personalities that aren't operating the body are in, like, a nicer place.
Yeah.
Like they're in a sort of a nice environment, like maybe.
Like a genie's lamp.
Yeah, yeah, like Stephen Grant is in a nice little museum or something
or a nice little apartment or something like that.
Terrific.
Or they could end real mean and negative and it'll be, you know.
That's fun too.
All the characters are in hell.
I guess it depends if this really is a limited series or not
and how they want to wrap it up.
Yeah.
What else, Mason?
Here's one more email.
This is from Kenny.
Kenny.
Subject line, that trash podcast.
Hey, guys, I recently listened to your Twilight series,
Caravan of Garbage Episodes.
I was telling my wife, who doesn't listen to the podcast,
about some of the funny things you had said.
We say a lot of funny things, don't we?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She must have only been half listening because a few minutes later she
tried to ask me a question and she prefaced it with
in the Train of Trash episode.
Yeah.
You know, the Trash podcast.
My wife has now renamed your Caravan of Garbage
to Train of Trash or that Trash podcast.
I do have one question. Have you ever seen a movie
so bad that you had to have someone else
suffer through it just so they could understand it?
Yeah, there was something that I watched.
I think we've done it on this podcast, definitely.
There's definitely stuff where one of us has seen the movie first
and we've been like, you've got to.
You've got to see this.
We can't not talk about this on the podcast.
I made somebody watch something because I didn't like it.
I was like, you should watch this thing, and they watched it.
They're like, that was terrible.
And I'm like, I know.
Gotcha.
I gotcha.
Gotcha, idiot.
I can't remember what it was.
But it's definitely happened, right? Yeah, it's definitely happened. Yeah, you've got to. I gotcha. Gotcha, idiot. I can't remember what it was. But it's definitely happened, right?
Yeah, it's definitely happened.
Yeah, you've got to.
I mean, we watch a lot of, I mean, we've talked about this before,
but bad is good to talk about.
Sometimes, yeah.
Or interesting.
Yes.
Average is boring.
That is true, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, like it's got to have certain elements to it where, like,
a lot of the time you watch a bad movie and you're just like,
that was bad and boring. Yeah. But, yeah, a lot of the time you watch a bad movie and you're just like, that was bad and boring.
Yeah.
But, yeah, it needs to be.
Like, Morbius isn't fun to talk about.
Like, everything around it is kind of fun, but the movie itself,
it's like, I don't know, he gets powers and then whatever.
Who cares?
Yeah, the only fun thing about that movie was the post-credits.
Exactly.
And it's well worth the price of admission.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mason. Go on. I'm just bringing up my last of admission. Yeah. Yeah. Mason.
Go on.
I'm just bringing up my last one here.
Oh, yeah.
And it is from Daniel the Temp who says,
we've written it before.
Actually, I went to the fan pod.
Hope you boys get a chance to talk about it.
No.
I already did Daniel the Temp.
Sorry.
This is from self-aware.
When I said he wrote him before, I mean just before when I read it out.
But also before that as well.
Self-aware bacterium says, I said he wrote him before, I mean just before when I read it out. But also before that as well. Self-aware bacterium says, thoughts on the Halo series so far?
I wasn't happy MasterChef removed his helmet,
but I was willing to see the different kind of story.
James, have you done that on purpose?
No, yeah, no.
They wanted to tell.
The problem with MasterChef is the least interesting character in the series.
Who is MasterChef in the series?
Who becomes the MasterChef?
James, why have you done this?
What have I done?
Why have you?
No, I don't like this.
I haven't watched Halo.
I haven't watched it.
I know people who like the games do not like the show generally.
Yeah.
One of the admins on the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group,
Fidel, every week starts up a Halo episode thread.
And I think in the most recent one he was like,
anybody still watching this?
Anybody liking this?
Anybody?
I think a lot of people were like, I started this because I was excited for Halo.
Halo, yeah.
And they're just sort of watching it out of an obligation now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It seems to be very light on action.
Master Chef takes his helmet off. Mason, you've said it wrong. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It seems to be very light on action. Master Chef takes his helmet off.
Mason, you've said it wrong.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, I would never do that.
It's Mr. Chef.
It's Mr. Chef.
It's French.
Yeah.
He takes it off immediately.
I've seen people being like, you've got to kind of earn that.
Yeah, right, right, right.
I don't think he does it like first episode or second episode.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I'm not a Halo guy, so, like, I don't care enough to watch it. Exactly. Or be mad about it. You know. I'm not a Halo guy, so I don't care enough to watch it or be mad about it.
You know what I mean?
If it were mind-bogglingly good, we would know about it
and we would have watched it, I think.
Yes.
So it's only four huge fans of the games who aren't liking it, apparently.
So that's good work.
Good work, Paramount+.
Oh, my God, incredible stuff, yeah.
So I'm a big fan of that.
Yeah, that's the other thing.
That's the other reason I haven't watched it is because it's on a streaming
service I don't currently have.
And, you know, what am I going to do, get another streaming service?
Yeah.
Yeah, I will eventually.
That's how they get you, Halo.
Halo.
I don't even, like, the shots I've seen of the Halo series also just look
like they're taking place in a car park,
just like a 21st century car park.
It should be super expensive.
Right?
Why isn't it super expensive?
And it's wild also.
Like I don't know if Paramount Plus do the same thing
that Netflix do, which is you can't screenshot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I haven't like the whole point of Halo is like the Halo.
Exactly.
I've not seen like a shot.
And the flood come through and everyone goes, wow.
I've not seen a shot of like MasterChef and he's there and the Halo
and he's like, I'm shooting at the Halo, you know?
This brisket's ready and I'm shooting at this Halo.
Yeah.
I've deconstructed this cream caramel and people are like, oh, come on, man.
Just make it normal.
Just make the regular normal one.
God damn it, MasterChef.
I won't watch it.
I just don't.
No, you won't.
You refuse.
Yeah.
You know, maybe I would get into it if people were like, oh, my God,
episode five is where it really kicks off and that's the one
and it's got the good action and he's driving the warthog.
Yeah.
It's on the halo and this is what it's all about.
But from what I can tell, it looks like just. It's fine. I mean, it's good that they made the warthog. Yeah. It's on the Halo and this is what it's all about. But from what I can tell, it looks like just.
It's fine.
I mean, it's good that they made the Warthog.
Okay.
I'm trying to bring this thing up I have.
I can't find it.
Sorry.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Are you going to watch it?
No.
You should watch it though.
We'll watch it together.
Okay.
Let's.
We'll watch it together.
I don't want to though.
You'll have to get the Paramount Plus though and then give me the password.
Okay, great.
And tell me what it is.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I do got one more here.
Okay. This is just like a list of things that I haven't seen. Give me the password. Okay, great. And tell me what it is. Yeah. Okay, so I do got one more here.
This is just like a list of things that I haven't seen.
This one's from Scott Wilkinson who says,
I know it's a traditional comic book movie show and also it involves gross romance,
but have you guys ever checked out Outlander?
Oh.
We talked about it earlier.
There's a rich book history and the show is terrific,
a time travel story that makes the 1940s future worth a look.
No.
I've seen like half of the first episode, but people love that show.
Should I watch it, Mason?
Do they go to visit a Viking?
It's essentially the same plot as Goodnight, Sweetheart.
I love the show Goodnight, Sweetheart, and I've been looking for a spiritual successor.
I've not seen Outlander.
I'm just vaguely aware of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm watching Halo right now, James.
What do you think about that?
Who are you watching that on?
Paramount+.
You have Paramount Plus?
If you have Amazon, you can add channels to Amazon.
I thought that cost extra money when you do that.
It does.
It's not free.
So you just bought that then for money?
No, I already had it.
I already had it to watch.
Dexter?
Yellow Jackets.
Yellow Dexter?
Yes.
Dexter Jackets?
Yes.
Anyway, it's looking great.
Look at this.
Wow, it looks real.
It looks real, man. Oh, it's pretty big. That at this. Wow, it looks real. It looks real, man.
Oh, it's pretty big.
That's a big structure.
Yeah.
You know.
Anyway, can you send me that?
There's a guy.
Can you screenshot that and send me the show?
The entire episode?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, great.
Screen record it for me.
I mean, look, they're wearing future clothes, aren't they?
That's pretty something.
That's kind of right.
Are they playing some sort of future card game?
Wow, what's the game?
That's great.
Do you reckon it's an in-game card game you see and you're like, how many squares you've
got?
Oh, I've got enough squares for this round.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, man, I don't have enough squares.
I love a future weird game.
But I can get more squares if I pay real money to get some more squares.
Buddy, quit while you're ahead.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm going to scroll forward.
Yep.
And I'm going to see if I can see MasterChef.
Oh, there he is.
That's MasterChef, I think.
No, that's one of them. That's not bad. It's a great costume. Yeah, it's pretty good. What don't you like about it I can see MasterChef. Oh, there he is. That's MasterChef, I think. That's one of them.
It's a great costume.
Yeah, it's pretty good.
What don't you like about it?
No, I like it.
Yeah.
He's just looking side to side.
Isn't he Liev Schreiber's brother who plays MasterChef?
Huh.
Isn't that right?
Don't know.
Okay.
Okay.
Great.
All right.
Looks great to me, Halo fans.
I don't know what you can play.
I've got to say that yellow sheen on his visor is looking real good.
Yeah, it looked not bad.
Why isn't he wearing his chef's hat, though?
Great point.
Thanks.
Mason.
He's wearing it under the helmet.
He crushes it down.
You don't know anything about Halo more.
So what do you take it under his helmet?
He has to pop it out again.
He has to pop it out again.
No, he has to blow into it to pop it back open again.
That's not fun.
It's the future.
It should pop up.
It should have a big future spring in it.
But that's why the wars keep happening because they put AI
into the chef's hats and made them pop up again
and then there's a bloody, then they went AI mad or whatever.
I hate that.
So now they just have to have manual hats.
Manual hats.
Right?
In the future.
Yeah.
Why even do anything?
What are we working towards?
Yeah.
Driverless cars.
Don't you remember Halo manual hats?
We're not getting driverless cars, are we?
Me and you, personally. I don't think so, no.
I think we're way further
than that than people think we are.
You know what I mean?
It's just not going well, is it?
Not at all, no.
Mason, while I check
if there's more news, you can check
if there's less news. As far as I know, there's less news, you can check if there's less news.
Well, as far as I know, there's less news.
We're going to take away one piece of news from this episode.
But, folks, thank you so much for listening to the podcast.
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Thank you for subscribing and doing all that stuff.
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Yeah, I guess you will.
Yeah, exactly.
So thank you to people for that.
James, you got any reviews there?
Got a couple of this from Glamrock Shake who says,
not the weekly planet, still great.
When I first downed this pod, I thought, five stars, by the way,
so kind, thank you.
I thought it was a podcast about weak men named Lee.
Like my stepdad, I was seeking solidarity and assurance
that I was not alone in hating him.
Although this podcast didn't scratch that particular rich,
it did open my eyes and mind to a world of nerdy news
delivered by two funny Australians.
Although my heart remains as resolute in wishing Lee malice as ever before,
I can least use my many time out hours to learn about great movies,
comics, TV shows, et cetera.
That's beautiful.
And a bit of laughs while doing so.
I'm glad that you had your stepdad and that's brought you to us.
So that's really good.
This is from Colub42.
It says, just awesome.
I look forward to the show every week.
I've been listening for a couple of years now and every Sunday
I find myself chomping at the bit for the next episode.
Thanks so much.
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Caravan of Garbage continues this week.
We'll also be talking about Clone Wars, but we're doing video games.
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And bad.
And bad to talk about.
We do a Lego game, but then, wow, something quite weird.
Something quite different.
Yeah.
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All right, next week, ambulance maybe.
Yeah, yeah.
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What do you think as a movie-going experience?
Like I said, I think I said this last week,
I'm excited to watch a Michael Bay movie that is not Transformers related
and see if it causes me pain.
Really?
Because you watched that last one.
You loved it.
Which one?
That Netflix one.
Which one?
The heist, Franco, man.
What?
Six Underground?
Dead Men.
Oh, Army of the Dead.
No, that was bad.
No, that wasn't it.
No, Six Underground.
That's the one, right?
Yeah, that's bad also.
Yeah, as I'm saying.
Yeah.
You're excited to watch a movie that's not Transformers.
Yeah, I guess so.
Yeah.
Third time's the charm. Great stuff. I don't know. Yeah, yeah I'm saying, if you're excited to watch a movie that's not Transformers. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. Third time's the charm.
Great stuff.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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