The Weekly Planet - 432 The Future Of SPUMM & Best Movie Cameos
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Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet. The Weekly Planet.
Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet,
where we talk movies and comics and TV shows.
My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday.
And with me, as always, is my co-host, Nick Mason,
who never hears the intro song.
He just gets to watch me groove along to it.
You do groove along.
It's very true, yes.
But look, I... You can bring headphones or I could get you a pair
and you could wear headphones.
Do you think that would more effectively harmonize the podcast?
Because sometimes we talk over each other or, you know,
sometimes we're just not on the same wavelength at all
for the entire episode.
Because I wanted to say something and then you were saying something.
No, no, I was always saying something and you weren't.
As far as I know, you were not talking or thinking about anything.
Okay.
But no, I don't like wearing headphones though either. So let's just know, you were not talking or thinking about anything. I don't like wearing headphones, though, either.
So let's just, as you say,
I just take them off. Let's ditch the phones, bro.
Yeah, but I'm always worried because this runs through
my computer on, that
there's going to be some kind of Twitter ad or
whatever just playing in the background.
Continuously, right? Yeah.
So it's going to happen one day.
But not this day.
The episode gets released and it's like,
hey, folks, welcome to the Weekly Planet Podcast.
And the ad's like, hey, James, here's some of that weird stuff you like.
Well, it's just an ad where, like,
you've got to stop a bunch of zombies coming through a wall.
You know what I mean?
You know that game?
It's just that game that you always get on Instagram.
Do you get that game?
I don't know if I get that game.
It's just like a swarm of zombies and you shoot a car at it
and they explode and expand and then you need a rocket launcher.
You shoot a car at it?
Yeah, I don't know, man.
I don't know games.
I only know comic book movie news.
That's very true.
And boy, do we have a lot of it this week.
We have the death of a comic book legend.
I'm just going to go through.
There'll be time codes if you want to jump ahead.
We've got two films that lost, two huge films that lost
big directors this week.
Oh, yeah.
CinemaCon happens. There's a bit of news and whatnot from there
So many Sony announcements which we're going to go through as well
I know you're a big fan
Delays but not dismay
Spun baby
It's never left
Delays but not dismay
Because there's some big delays happening
I've got a bit of Michael Caine news
This feels like on your wavelength.
I saw this and I went, this is amazing.
I love this.
And then we're going to talk about Doctor Strange being banned in Saudi Arabia.
Whoa.
And then we're going to talk about the biggest cameos ever in movies that have ever happened.
That's right.
And off the back of that, we're going to talk about Ambulance briefly, the movie Ambulance.
That's right.
Yeah.
What are we reading?
Ambulance.
Ambulance.
The movie Ambulance. That's right. Michael Bay's are we reading? Ambulance. The movie Ambulance.
That's right.
Michael Bay's back, baby.
All the big hitters.
That's true.
Michael Bay, Spum.
Yep.
Kevin Smith mentioned Monthbius on his podcast.
He did mention Monthbius.
Yeah.
How fun.
How fun for us.
I don't think he knows who we are.
No, he absolutely doesn't.
I think perhaps one of his assistants.
Oh, my goodness.
Is this the podcast or something?
Hey, if you're that person, which podcast is better?
Tell us.
Yeah, tell us.
Tell us on Kevin Smith. You can tell us as well. I mean, it's him, but you can just say it's us. Or, hey, if you're that person, which podcast is better? Tell us. Yeah, tell us. Tell us on Kip and Smith.
You can tell us as well.
I mean, it's him, but you can just say it's us.
Yeah, yeah.
Tell us which podcast is more successful.
Say it's us.
I would like to know the numbers for comparison.
It would be him, but I'd still like to know how far we're behind.
Yeah.
He started earlier than us, right?
Yeah.
Like a decade, right?
But we're from the streets.
That's true, yeah. He grew up on a street, as you Yeah. Like a decade, right? But we're from the streets. That's true, yeah.
He grew up on a street, as you know.
That's right.
So legendary comic book artist Neil Adams passed away this week at age 80.
Apparently it was due to sepsis complications.
Now, if you're not familiar with Neil Adams,
you would no doubt have seen some of his work or I was going
to say repercussions.
That sounds bad.
Right, yes.
But like the impact of that in the modern day.
Have you ever seen Batman?
Yes.
And he's not got a shirt on.
And he's not got a shirt on.
But his cowl is still on and he's sword fighting a guy.
Is he just hairy?
Yes.
Yeah, I've seen that.
Yes, exactly.
Neil Adams created I think the, the quintessential, like,
1970s-era Batman look, like, post the 1960s Batman TV series
and what have you.
He sort of integrated, like, that campy.
He was credited for revitalising it after the 60s show.
Not that the 60s show, like, sunk it, but he, like, reinvented Batman.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, redesigned the suit and redesigned, you know,
the character and all the gear and all that sort of stuff
and, yeah, created Ra's al Ghul.
He did, and Talia al Ghul and Man Bat.
He also came up with the character Jon Stewart.
That was his creation.
From the talk show host.
That's exactly right, yeah.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
And then he's not his father.
He invented him.
I'm not sure the specifics of it, but that is true.
That's a fact.
Now, according to, I was reading an article on THR. father he invented him i'm not sure the specifics of it but that is true that's a fact now according
to uh t i was reading an article on thr uh he's done a bunch of stuff good stuff for comic creators
as well anyways he also works tirelessly to promote better working conditions this is via
thr as mentioned uh which was radical at the time so this includes creator rights um especially for
their work and he early on recognized the value of creators and was a thorn in the side of publishers demanding compensation for himself and others when
their characters were adapted off the page especially jerry siegel and joe she's the
creators of superman big proponent of that also helped the helped change the practice of comic
book publishers keeping their original art by artists or even shredding or tossing it
influencing companies to establish policies of returning the art, something that allowed artists
to enjoy a second income stream.
So the biggest case for this was Jack Kirby,
the co-creator of Fantastic Four, Thor, X-Men and Hulk.
So, yeah, just a lot of good stuff going on, you know what I mean?
He wasn't a blight on the comic book industry.
That's true.
Like say?
I don't have an answer to that.
Every creator is beautiful as far as I'm concerned.
He also created continuity comics, which was like his creator.
Yes, he did.
In the style of image comics.
Bucky O'Hare?
Bucky O'Hare was a continuity comics.
Yeah.
And creation and everybody who created stuff, they got, you know,
they weren't looking for a man.
They did get a knife.
Yeah.
And every week they threatened Neil and they're like,
give me my creator's rights.
And he's like, you can have them.
But he didn't want to.
That's why he put the knife in.
Yeah, yeah.
Because he knew that was the backup plan if he ever went rogue.
Yeah.
One of the comics that I read as a kid from him was Cyber Rad.
Oh, yeah.
It was like a glam rock and roll dude who woke up one day
and his body had been turned into a cyborg.
Oh, my God.
It was rad.
It sounds like that's the kind of thing that would have like a video game
crossover with Cool Spot.
Do you know what I mean?
Oh, yeah.
Cyber Rad and Cool Spot.
But it was before that was it.
Yeah, I'm just looking at Cyber Rad now.
No, I've never heard of this.
There you go.
Wow, imagine being a cool rock and roll dude and being a cool cyborg.
I can't.
I can't do it.
No, you can't.
Anyways, what a legacy. Good on him. 80 years, you know, pretty good. That being a cool cyborg. I can't. I can't do it. No, you can't. Anyways, what a legacy.
Good on him.
80 years, you know, pretty good.
That's a good innings.
But still, you know, it sucks that he's gone.
Speaking of sucks that he's gone, Mason, but this person isn't dead.
That's just a poor segue into this.
Oh, it's so poor.
Might be even worse depending on who this is.
It's true.
How are Kevin Smith's segues?
Pretty good, I imagine.
I imagine he has an actual segue.
It's true.
Actually, he's doing a lot of running.
He's always running a canyon.
I try not to listen to his podcast anymore because I'm like,
I'm just going to start doing that, so I'm just going to not.
Okay.
It's like how I don't watch trailer breakdowns because I'm like,
no, thank you.
Anyways, Mason.
I'll just do it my own way.
Exactly.
My own bad way.
So Fast X.
We didn't mention this last week, but Fast 10 is called Fast X.
It's an affront to God. They went with the title Fast X. Yeah.'t mention this last week, but Fast 10 is called Fast X. As an affront to God, they went with the title Fast X.
On purpose, right?
As opposed to Fast 10.
Yeah.
Sure.
Anyways, somebody must have been upset because Justin Lin,
the director of this movie and four to five others in the franchise.
Mere days before starting production. Well, it had already started.. Mere days before starting production.
Well, it had already started.
Sorry, mere days into starting production.
Yeah, so I'll go through his statement
and then I'm going to talk more about the fallout from this.
Okay.
So he said,
With the support of Universal,
I have made the difficult decision to step back as a director of Fast X
while remaining with the project as producer over ten years and five films.
There you go.
We've been able to shoot the best actors, the best stunts,
and the best damn car chases.
On a personal note, as the child of Asian immigrants,
I am proud of helping to build the most diverse franchise in movie history.
I will forever be grateful to the amazing cast, crew,
and studio for their support and for welcoming me into the Fast family.
Now, Deadline have said that the split is amicable.
Now people have speculated and it has been said that it's probably
Vin Diesel.
Vin Diesel.
Not like Vin Diesel kicked him out but there has been a clash
because, I mean, it is Vin Diesel's franchise at this point.
I guess that's true, yeah.
Like he is, like him or not, he runs that show.
I feel I read somewhere there's some stipulation
that Vin Diesel cannot direct this movie.
Oh, why is that?
I don't know.
I just read it on Twitter, so it must be true.
It must.
But I mean, the idea, you know, obviously when a star is, you know,
the iconic image of a movie or a movie franchise.
Yeah.
In a lot of ways, even if they aren't directing it,
in a lot of ways they are directing it.
Absolutely true.
Yeah, exactly.
Like Tom Cruise doesn't direct the Mission Impossible movies.
But does he?
Great question.
I imagine he gets a vast amount of input into how those are put together.
The new one's called Dead Reckoning.
Oh, we're going to talk about that.
Yeah, but thanks for getting ahead of me, Mason. You're welcome. That's not your one bit of news. You those are put together. The new one's called Dead Reckoning. Oh, we're going to talk about that, yeah, but thanks for getting ahead of me, Mason.
You're welcome.
That's not your one bit of news.
You're welcome, James.
So I don't know if you saw this.
This was actually as production started.
This is Vin Diesel in what looks like a hostage situation.
Oh, is that Justin Lin?
Justin Lin.
So here we go.
I'm going to play this for you.
Okay.
What do you think, Justin?
Week one.
It's French week one.
How does it feel?
Feels like the beginning of an epic ending.
Is it fair to say that this will be the best one?
In my heart, yes.
Unbelievable.
Had you not seen that?
No, I'd never seen that before.
That's great.
So that was a week ago.
That's incredible. So that was a week ago. That's incredible.
Okay, wow.
Vin, you know you can take it.
If we did sound bites, my God, I'd put that straight on the board.
Vin, you know you can take a second take of that.
You're a movie man.
You know you can take a second take.
And if one of your actors, director Justin Lin, was clearly like,
I mean, yeah, I guess.
We're doing one of the best.
I guess it's going to be good.
I don't know.
Woo!
Incredible.
Yeah, really good stuff.
So Vin Diesel has yet to release a statement, but of course.
We're waiting with bated breath.
We will not be releasing this episode until he releases a statement.
That's right.
And here's the thing, as Mason already mentioned,
but it's not his one bit of news.
Production has already started.
Sources tell Variety that the second unit will continue production
in the UK while the main unit is paused until a replacement director
is hired.
Until then, the production is burning through cash to keep key crew
and cast members in limbo.
Sources from different studios with experience replacing directors
midstream estimate that.
Midstream.
That's right.
I should have said mid-drift.
Mid-drip?
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a bit of mid-drip in the Fast Furious crew, isn't there?
You know what I mean?
What?
Drip is clothes, man, and mid is like mid.
Oh.
Don't you know these slang terms, Mason?
It must be because of my youth.
I think it's probably, yeah.
I think I'd never encountered
them used so seamlessly before, so that was great. Estimated they could be costing Universal upwards
of $600,000 to $1 million per day. That's a lot of money. And the other thing is the bigger action
beats kind of have to be put on hold. And a bigger element of that also is it's got stars, including new people like Brie Larson and Jason Momoa.
They've got ongoing franchises at other studios.
And they have ongoing commitments.
So you have to pay to either keep them on board to basically sit around
or reschedule, which then you've got to do with other studios,
or you let them go for somebody else.
So this could be an absolute disaster.
I mean, you know, speaking of Mission Impossible,
Dead Reckoning, my one bit of news.
No, no, no.
No, I know.
No, no, no.
You know, obviously the big problem last time was that Henry Cavill
requested to shave his mustache for Justice League and et cetera, et cetera,
and that turned into an absolute CGI mess disaster.
Yeah.
This could be it.
It could be, you know, okay, Brie Larson will still do Fast X,
but she will be wearing the Captain Marvel uniform the entire time.
There is no time for her to take it off in between going from set to set.
So you are going to have to Photoshop like a white wife beater
and some chains on her jeans.
You're going to have to CGI off that shaved head that she'll have to have
for the Fast and Furious franchise.
So, yeah, look, also it's in Universal's best interest
to kind of move this along.
They could just get, I'd imagine, a second unit director to step in,
somebody who's been on these movies for a long time, you know what I mean?
A lot of people have suggested Ron Howard like he did for Solo
and he's done car movies before.
Solo's got a car chase but he did the movie Rush, you know what I mean?
And he's really good at apparently establishing a mood.
But you need to bring in somebody who Vin Diesel can vibe with.
Can walk over, I was going to say, you know?
He can vibe with and he's got that drip.
And Ron Howard's got that drip.
He certainly does.
He's got a puffy vest probably.
And a baseball cap.
And he's got Clint Howard with him.
That's very true.
Oh, can you imagine that little vlog there with Ron Howard in it?
I don't think he'd be cool with it.
Yeah, probably.
I'm just happy to be here.
No.
I really should do some soundboard stuff, you know?
Anyway, that's interesting.
I'm sure it'll be fine eventually.
Vin Diesel does a drag race with Potsy from Happy Days.
Deadline also reported.
I don't know if that actor's still alive, but the technology is there now.
It's irrelevant.
What do you think the creative difference is, though?
I think that is the core of it.
I think it's just him being like, this is my franchise
and this is how I want to do it, I'd imagine.
So you think the details are not really like the matter.
Like I could sort of see it being a case of like.
It's always been contentious and like who can hit who and who's in charge
and the rock and whatever, you know, all that, yeah.
You're right.
Like maybe it's a case of just like they're looking at an action sequence
and Vin's like, I think the car should brake left.
Justin Lin's like, well, they should brake right because of whatever.
And then it's just a build of tiny little moments.
Yeah.
You might be right.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Best one ever.
Yeah, nice.
I think they've obviously gotten worse, the movies.
And I don't think it's Justin Lin.
Not to say that it is strictly Vin Diesel,
but Justin Lin has done a lot of good movies
and he did what I think is the best modern Star Trek movie.
He did the third one.
Would you watch a Strictly Ballroom sequel called Strictly Vin Diesel?
Yes.
Right?
Absolutely I would.
Is that the wife beater on?
Yeah, over the big sparkly jacket.
Paul Mercurio, Strictly Ballroom, Baz Luhrmann, 1992, I want to say.
Maybe, something like that.
Doesn't matter anyway.
Anyway, this is by a deadline.
John Watts, director John Watts, you might know him, Mason.
Not personally.
From movies.
He didn't let me finish.
You might know him from directing movies, Mason.
Do you actually know him?
Yeah.
Okay.
He directed the three Spider-Man movies, the current ones.
He has left the Fantastic Four reboot at Marvel.
Didn't know he was doing that.
I probably did.
We've probably discussed it on this podcast.
Yeah, we definitely have.
So this is his statement.
Apparently it's mutual for one.
That's what Marvel said.
It's like we want to work together in the future.
But making three Spider-Man films was an incredible
and life-changing experience for me.
I'm eternally grateful to have been part of the MCU for seven years.
I'm internally grateful.
Yeah.
But externally, I've been a real bitch about it. I'm a li grateful to have been part of the MCU for seven years. I'm internally grateful, but externally
I've been a real bitch about it. I'm a livid.
Ugh!
Ooh! So seven years
to be doing it. Yeah, I'm hopeful we'll work together
again. I can't wait to see the amazing vision for
Fantastic Four brought to life.
So that kind of puts a little
crimple? Crample?
It puts a real crimple crample in the whole situation.
And who's going to be, who's going to be the replacement?
Ron Howard?
He's busy.
What's he doing?
Fast X.
That's true.
He's got to look after his little brother, Ron Howard.
Clint Howard!
Clint Howard!
That's right.
Wait, he's a grown man too, isn't he?
Yes.
Yeah, cool.
Because when you grow up, your brother's also at the same rate.
Same rate, I think.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Interesting, interesting.
Also, you said Ron Howard again.
So I'm like...
Did I? Yeah. When I said Clint Howard. You said Ron I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting, interesting. Also, you said Ron Howard again, so I'm like. Did I?
Yeah.
When I said of Clint Howard.
You said Ron Howard again.
Hey, colleagues, put this in.
Clint Howard.
Clint Howard.
One of those would be good.
Perfect.
Seamless.
I guess, I mean, my first thought of who will get this is Peyton Reed.
Yeah, right.
Because he's done and doing the Ant-Man movies.
And he loves that fantastic film.
And he loves it and he nearly did one in like the early 2000s
and he's openly said like, I want to do this one.
He said, I'll kill Ron Howard for the chance to do this.
Did he say that?
Yeah, he said, I'll stomp right onto the set of bloody Fast X
and get him.
What did he say about his brother?
Ron Howard.
You know, to fix that colleague's already nailed it, didn't I? Yeah. He said, I about his brother? Ron Howard! You know, to fix that, Colleen, I already
nailed it, didn't I? Yeah.
He said, I have no beef with Ron Howard!
But if I have to go through him to get to
Ron Howard, I will.
So, I'm interested to see what John Watts is going to do
outside of the Spider-Man franchise, because
you know, people have made criticisms of
that film, like the latest one in particular,
because like,
it feels like it's just like a bunch of cameos
and anyone could have directed this and there's no particular style to it.
I disagree with that.
I think organising something like that also within a pandemic
is incredibly difficult.
And they'd also be very happy with him because it made
like nearly $2 billion or whatever.
But I'm interested to see what he does outside of this.
So at the moment he's working on something with Apple Studios.
He's a movie he's going to write and direct with both George Clooney
and Bradley Pittsburgh.
So that's exciting.
So that will be his next project and I wouldn't be surprised
if maybe he does another Spider-Man movie or whatever.
I don't really know.
Should we do another bit of noobs?
Here's a bit of noobs.
What?
Maybe to tie in with Spider-Man.
Okay.
Andrew Garfield says he's pulling back from acting.
It's true.
Yeah, right?
Yeah, so he's taking a bit of a hiatus,
which makes sense because he's been in the media for two years.
That's true.
Just lying to our faces.
Maybe he's lying now, though.
Maybe, James.
Maybe he's making another Spider-Man movie.
Maybe he's making The Amazing Spider-Man 3.
And he's getting on the Y train early.
It's a smart holiday.
Yeah, right? So I what I would do. Yeah, right.
So I know recently like his mum passed away and also he's just been like he's
obviously off Tick, Tick, Boom and Spider-Man and he's always doing
something that it makes sense that he'd want to take a bit of a break,
you know.
And also you can't be in the public eye that long because people get sick of you.
You need to step away.
That's true, yeah.
Because people are like, we hate you now.
You need to move.
Especially if he's filming Amazing Spider-Man 3, which he is.
And I think people should press him on every time.
I agree.
Every time they see him or interview him or see him on the street or whatever,
they should just be like.
Yeah, knocking his door.
Yeah, yeah.
Or just be like, you know what?
In fact, what we should do, I think, is just have a chat with him
and then just about regular stuff, the weather or whatever,
and then say, enjoy your break, and then give them a big wink.
Yeah.
Wink.
And then you rip your shirt open and you've got a Spider-Man t-shirt on.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you have to wear that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just in case you're unannounced.
Terrific stuff.
So, yeah, does it say what he's going to be up to in particular?
He says he's just taking a holiday.
He says he's going to rest for a little bit.
Good for him, man.
He had some – this was on The View.
He had some fun with the comments that were taken out of context.
I'm retired officially.
I'm done, he said sarcastically.
I have enough money to live in a camper van for the rest of my life.
I'm just having a holiday.
I think people just make a story out of nothing, which we're doing, James,
because he's filming Amazing Spider-Man 3.
Yeah, I mean I didn't bring it up, but yeah.
I purposely didn't put it into the news because I didn't think it was very interesting.
No, it's very interesting.
Man, is it going to do anything?
Man, it's going to work for a bit.
Except he's doing Amazing Spider-Man 3.
Right, exactly, yeah.
I need to take a month or so, a month of a break, maybe two.
I'm not retiring, he said.
Okay, good on you.
That's good.
In a way, a month or two of a break from acting isn't really
a piece of news, is it? No.
But it still counts. Would you take a month
or two off podcasting, though? This is
real work, bear in mind. Look at these calluses.
Look at our podcasting calluses.
I've got this big callus on my index finger
from the last four weeks
of pushing record on the backup recorder.
CinemaCon news, Mason.
Got some titles.
You mentioned Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part 1, July 2023.
Oh, I didn't know that.
So it's Dead Reckoning Parts 1 and 2.
That's right.
Then Dead Reckoning Part 2 in June of the following year.
You know what they should have done?
What should have they done?
They should have named them Dead Reckoning Part 1.
Ron Howard.
They should have named them Dead Reckoning Part 1
and then Dead Reckoning Part 3.
And then we would all be running around,
searching for Dead Reckoning Part 2,
and then we wouldn't find one.
Good time prank.
That's a prank.
That's a good prank.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Apparently they screened Top Gun as well,
and people are like, it's amazing.
Okay.
So the new Top Gun.
Maybe they did screen the original one as well.
So who gets to, if you go to CinemaCon, who gets to go to CinemaCon?
Media.
Just media people.
Okay, right.
So this isn't a pub.
This isn't like a Comic-Con.
This isn't like a publicly accessible.
No, it's more like industry and insider people, which isn't us.
No, very much no.
Yes.
That's right.
Whoa.
I don't want to sit in like an amphitheater and then like,
and the next movie where I know, I don't care.
I want to read a list.
Yeah, and it also.
Unless you're going to show me a movie, I don't care.
And it also kind of feels like in order to like, yeah,
and we know there's like everybody coming off one of these things,
it's like, oh, my, they're raving about it.
Oh, my God.
Top Gun Maverick's the best movie.
It doesn't mean anything.
Well, exactly, because they're like,
their access is contingent on raving about stuff.
Yeah.
And we're in the very comfortable position where sometimes people give us free tickets to stuff.
Yeah.
And they don't really know we exist.
So they wouldn't notice if we make fun of their movies.
Nobody has any idea who we are.
I'm sure there's a bunch of people in, like, print media here who are like,
who the fuck are these idiots?
And we'll never tell them.
That's right.
And also, right back at you.
Yeah, exactly.
Shembry.
You bitch.
If indeed you still work for Harold's son.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But he's probably in some of the screenings we get.
Probably is.
Avatar The Way of Water.
That's the title.
The title of what?
The next Avatar movie.
That's Avatar 3 because everyone's going to be madly running around
looking for Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning 2 or whatever.
Anyway, so this will be interesting for us
because we are seeing Doctor Strange on Tuesday this week.
And they're actually going to release the trailer for Avatar
The Way of Water exclusively in cinemas.
But not in the screening we're going to.
No, so the one that we're going to, the cinema next door.
The adjacent cinema.
They're playing the trailer, I think, in 3D on a loop,
and you can go in and watch the trailer.
Incredible.
And, look, I am interested to see what it looks like,
but I'm not giving up a seat for that.
No.
You know what I mean?
I'm not going to leave my jacket to go and watch Avatar, the trailer.
I'm going to leave halfway through Doctor Strange.
Okay.
Go in the cinema.
But also, what a weird set up.
Yeah.
Because, like, I don't know how, like, if the trailer's two minutes,
what, are you going to go in and take a seat?
No, you're just going to mill around the front.
It's just going to be a bunch of journalists milling
around the front bit of the cinema.
We can give, like, the Herald Sun boys a bit of a nudge, mate.
Be like, get the fuck out of my way, mate.
Yeah, get out of here, nerds.
We're new media nerds.
Anyway, the release, also Avatar, original Avatar,
is re-releasing in cinemas in September.
Oh.
So to get geared up.
Do you think, does that contribute to,
do you think it could break the box office record again?
Like, do you think it could?
No.
Because there'll be a whole generation of people who haven't seen it.
Yeah.
I mean, it will technically increase.
That's what I'm talking about.
Yes.
I think it, didn't it take it back already?
Maybe it did.
Maybe it did.
I just want to point out, I don't care.
But also, like, I thought you meant in terms of the new one.
Do you think the new one will break that record? Oh, no, I don't care. But also, like, I thought you meant in terms of the new one. Do you think the new one will break?
Oh, no, I don't.
Yeah.
Great question.
I mean, we are sort of all culturally geared now towards the culmination
of a franchise.
And, like, you know, Endgame broke so many records because we had 10 years
of that and we haven't had 10 years of build-up to Avatar 2.
But then again, Avatar.
But it also came at a different era.
Like, there was no build-up to Avatar, really. And that built over, but it also came out in a different era. There was no build up to Avatar
really, and that built over
like it didn't have a huge opening weekend, then it built
and built. Yeah, right. Yeah. I think it, look
I mean
we've said this before, like we're both
we're not anti-Avatar.
It's true. I'm very interested to see what
What an odd stance to take if we were anti-Avatar. I'm really interested
to see what James Cameron has done and why
he's doing this, because he must have a good idea.
Why are you doing this, Cameron?
You'll see! That's it.
Ooh!
I went out on my submarine!
Ooh!
Cool, man. That's cool.
I know there's a lot of mocap and water. I think they
showed a clip of it and people were like, it's beautiful. I cried.
Anyways, the Bat...
I'm at CinemaCon, but that's unrelated. I'm raving Anyways, the Batman... I'm at CinemaCon, but that's unrelated.
I'm raving about this thing, and I am at CinemaCon,
but it's unrelated to anything.
I just love cinema. Also, the Batman
2 is in the works.
Robert Pattinson will return, as will
Zoe Kravitz. Matt Reeves will
direct again. Now, it's interesting
what I found out about this is... Oh, would you find
out, Chance? Let me tell you. Is this a Weekly Planet
exclusive? Yeah, from the website I read it from.
HBO Max released the numbers and it is the highest debuted comic book movie
at 4.1 million views in the first week.
So Suicide Squad was 2.8, Wonder Woman 84 was 2.2, Dune was 1.9,
and Zack Snyder's Justice League was 1.8.
A classic comic book movie, Dune.
Exactly.
Oh, yeah. That was a comparison, book movie. Yeah. Dune. Exactly. Oh, yeah.
That was a comparison, Mason.
I understand.
It was a comparison.
If you don't want any comparisons, just tell me.
No, I like your little comparisons.
Good.
I didn't even think of that one.
I just saw the list and went, yeah, that, that, that, that.
And that's incredible because it came out in cinemas already.
That's true.
You know, and I think this is one of those things where, like,
with the first Nolan movie, The Batman Begins,
I should have just said Batman Begins, that didn't make a billion.
Yeah.
You know, and then it did.
You know, so I think this is going to build and build
and this is only going to, if they keep good,
it's going to become a stronger franchise.
Yeah.
You mark our words, folks.
If they keep good, they'll make big bucks.
If you keep good, you get good.
Yes. Get good. Mason keep good, you get good. Yes.
Get good.
Mason?
Guy, I get it.
Are you getting any good at games at the moment?
No.
Oh, okay.
But the big event, of course, at CinemaCon 20, whatever year it is, was Sony.
Oh, yeah.
I know you're going to love this.
I hate it.
Ghostbusters Afterlife is getting a sequel.
Yes.
Fuck.
I don't want to do any more Ghostbusters discourse, Mason.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Okay.
So you wouldn't mind watching the movie.
My least favorite nerds on the internet,
people who love the first two Ghostbusters movies.
Sure.
What do they think about the third Ghostbusters movie?
You just check the comments.
Anything.
Any topic in the world.
Just any US economy, just click through one of those tweets.
There'll be somebody on there being like,
made a real big mistake with Ghostbusters.
Answer the call.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But like the fact that I have to defend that movie I don't really like
because I said Ghostbusters 2 isn't as funny and it isn't.
I'm right.
I'm right, Mason.
I know.
Just because the original people are in Ghostbusters 2 doesn't automatically make it a it isn't. I'm right. I'm right, Mason. I know. Just because the original people are in Ghostbusters 2
doesn't automatically make it a funny movie
because it's not a funny movie.
Not that the reboot is that funny,
but it's slightly funnier than the other one.
Why am I doing this?
Why are you still talking about it?
I hate Ghostbusters.
No.
I hate it.
This is just going to bring a fresh batch.
I fucking hate these fucking crusty old fucking nerds
who crawl out of the woodwork.
Like Bill Murray.
Yeah, like Bill Murray.
You know what I mean.
I do, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, I didn't mind the last one.
It was fine.
It was fine.
It was good.
It was the best one since the original.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, anyway, so that's getting a sequel.
Who knows what that's going to look like.
Sony Pictures also, they said,
woo, Morbius is out, woo, up top.
They didn't mention any kind of Morbius sequel.
But they did say, but they did release,
show the first 15 minutes of Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse.
Oh, first 15 minutes.
And then there's going to be.
Were people raving about it?
They were having a big rave.
Yeah, yeah.
And then there's across the Spider-Verse part two
was something announced.
Venom three was greenlit. Venom 3 was greenlit.
Venom green guy this time.
Green goo guy this time.
Do you reckon they're going to not make him fight a goo guy in the next one?
Surely.
Come on.
I wonder if 3 might be the one where they finally start crossing over,
like your Morbius's and your that's it.
Who have they got?
Kraven? Yeah. When does Kraven come out? That's filming at the Or someone did. That's it. Who have they got? Kraven?
Yeah.
When does Kraven come out?
That's filming at the moment.
Okay, right.
They did show a little bit of that.
Well, maybe then it's Venom.
He comes to hunt Venom, but then they fight the green goo guy.
We have to fight this big green goo guy.
He's got all of our powers.
I think he fell into a –
What are your powers?
I've got this T-shirt with a lion on it.
That's my power.
Also, Grammy-winning Puerto Rican rapper Bad Bunny has signed on to the live action-
How is this pronounced?
El Muerto.
Yeah, so this is a-
The Dead.
So it's Juan Carlos Estrada Sanchez.
Is that how you pronounce it?
Yeah, you do it exactly like that, yes.
He's a super- You do it panicked towards the end.
Yeah, good.
He's a super-powered wrestler and he inherits powers from his father
and he sacrificed his life in order to save Juan Carlos
and their family from the long-time nemesis El Dorado.
Okay.
Now, look, as we've said here.
They have a million Spider-Men and women they could do.
What's fascinating.
What are they doing this? I'm not saying this can't be good, but why? I here. They have a million Spider-Men and women they could do. What's fascinating. What are they doing this?
I'm not saying this can't be good, but why?
I think Bad Bunny had a meeting with Sony and they went through the archives.
I want a meeting.
But what's interesting about this is.
Give me a minor flag.
Is that El Muerto was created after the,
like significantly after the Sony Spider-Man deal.
So I guess they get first dibs on everything.
Oh, with Marvel, like, yeah, you can have that one.
So for people who don't know, El Muerto got,
he's appeared on I think two issues of a Spider-Man comic.
That's it?
Yeah, in like 2006.
Okay.
I didn't know that.
And we've said this before, there are no bad characters.
Yes, there are.
Anybody can make a good movie with a character, but Sony can't.
That's a good rule of thumb.
You know, they are about 50-50 on the most well-known
and beloved superhero of all time.
Yep.
This won't be good.
But I have a bit of breaking news for you, James.
Nobody else has this, James.
I have a complete plot synopsis for El Muerto.
Oh, really?
As written by Sony. This is fascinating. It's fascinating. Okay, are we ready for this, James. I have a complete plot synopsis for El Muerto. No, really? As written by Sony.
This is fascinating.
It's fascinating.
Okay, are we ready for this, James?
Yeah.
Okay, so we open in the past, but not so far in the past
that we can't just use like modern-day sets and clothing.
Just like cars that you might have.
Yeah, like a regular car, whatever they have in the lot.
Yeah.
So a boy's in a community center.
He's watching his father do a wrestle.
Okay.
His father's a Mexican wrestler. He's the best father do a wrestle. His father's a Mexican wrestler.
He's the best wrestler.
The boy asks his father, he says,
Papa, do you think one day I could be the best wrestler?
The best Mexican wrestler?
The best Mexican wrestler.
And his father says, son, perhaps if you work hard and you believe in yourself,
one day you could inherit my special magical wrestling mask
and become the best wrestler.
What's a magic mask?
Also, the most important part about becoming the best wrestler
is respecting your family. And the boy's like,
that makes sense, I guess.
And we flash forward to present day
and the boy has grown up to be El Muerto,
who's a famous wrestler, but he's not the
best wrestler, James. But he's got the mask.
No, no, no. He doesn't have the mask.
Where's the mask? His father's
got the mask. Oh, his father's still alive. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And his father comes to visit and he says, son, you never come visit
your family anymore.
All you care about is being in montages where you get flown around in private planes
and you post photos as an app that's legally distinct from Instagram.
And now Murto says, father, I like private planes and I like posting on Wow Photo,
the app where instead of heart emojis, you get wow emojis, so it's different.
I get one million wow emojis on every photo.
And also I don't respect my family currently.
No! Yeah, and his father says
I take it back. I don't think you'll ever become the
best wrestler. And also we are estranged
now.
Sony's loving this, by the way. There's just
big, like, there's just no
notes after all this. Just big ticks.
Yeah, yeah. But then his father is killed by
a gang of crime criminals and El Muerto
has to put on the mask to get away, right?
Yeah.
And somehow that makes him a better wrestler.
But it doesn't make him the best wrestler, James.
I was going to say because his dad said he would never be the best wrestler.
He's not the best wrestler yet, right?
Yeah.
But then there's just a note and it says a series of underwhelming action sequences
and a Sony executive just put a bunch of big ticks next to it.
Okay.
And he's written, yeah, that's what we're all about.
That's what we like.
Anyway, eventually El Muerto realizes the importance of family
and he reconciles with his father whose spirit is in the mask
or the community center or somewhere.
It doesn't matter.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And not only does he become the best wrestler and defeat
the crime criminals, he gets super wrestler powers
and there's a note that says, call the Morbius smoke effect guys
and see if they know any other shapes or colors.
Then there's a note tacked on at the end.
It says, yeah, there can be another mask in a different colour,
but it makes you evil, and maybe his uncle or brother
or cousin puts it on, who cares,
and becomes the leader of the crime criminals.
And initially it seems like he's become the best wrestler,
but actually because he doesn't respect family as much,
at the end El Muerto suplexes him into a river.
Now a little bit behind the scenes, James.
I've just made this up.
What?
But if it doesn't, if the plot isn't exactly this,
I'll shoot myself on the podcast.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's great.
Right?
That's win-win.
Oh, that's incredible.
That was great work.
There's no way it's not that, though, right?
No, it's that. You're absolutely right. And the right the idea like all of it down to like the bad guy somebody
he knows who has a similar mask or set of powers yeah suplexing someone into a river or whatever
yeah it's all good stuff there might even be like a scene where the two guys would
they've got different color masks and they smash their heads together and a big beam comes out
you know just up the middle yeah yeah, right into the sky.
Wow.
And it makes sense that the bad guy,
like because they both be matched evenly initially
because both of them don't respect family.
That's right, but then one does.
Yeah.
But has he got any family left?
I guess he does.
I guess he's got siblings or whatever.
He's got a little nephew that we see at the start.
Yeah, yeah, and I reckon his father would be like, you don't come around.
We always have a big scene.
We're all sitting around the table and we're all sharing bowls of stuff
and the kids are running around the table.
Yeah.
He's like, I don't like that actually.
I don't like any of this.
I don't like any of those things.
I don't respect my family's culture.
Of wrestling.
Yeah.
We're all wrestlers.
They're all wrestlers.
We're all wrestlers, yes.
I don't respect that even though I myself am also a wrestler.
Anyway, this Bad Bunny guy, apparently he likes wrestling.
Like he appears in the WWE sometimes.
Good luck to him, man, honestly.
Good luck to him.
But no, that's fucked.
Anyways.
It depends.
Like we'll see who the director is, you know?
Yeah.
You don't know.
We don't know.
We don't know.
We don't know.
Maybe the director of Morbius.
Or they cancel it.
I mean, it's not coming out.
Yeah, exactly.
Anyway, speaking of.
Also, I'm shooting myself with a Nerf gun.
I'm not shooting myself with a regular.
Okay, cool.
In Minecraft.
Actually.
Great.
Delays but not dismays, Mason.
Oh.
Shazam Fury of the Gods was initially going up against Avatar The Way of Water on December
16th of this year.
Okay.
But it has been delayed.
But not to me. One week. Okay, December 16th of this year. Okay. But it has been delayed one week.
Okay, great.
That'll do it.
Yeah.
David F. Sandberg was like. That'll save that franchise.
Well, you know, I think it'll do all right.
David F. Sandberg was who's directing it was like,
oh, you're welcome, Cameron, because, you know,
because there was a joke about like which is the bigger franchise.
Yeah.
Well, we don't know at this point, but probably Avatar.
The other thing is this is via Nintendo of America, their Twitter.
It's not just Nintendo of America, but Shigeru Miyamoto took control of the Nintendo Twitter.
Do you reckon he's allowed to do that?
Yeah.
No, no, no.
I reckon there's probably like a couple of keys or whatever.
Maybe he's got one and Doug Bowser has the other one.
Maybe, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maybe Reggie's still got one.
They're big Tetris blocks.
Yes.
You put them in and turn them at the same time.
This is Miyamoto.
After consulting Chris Sun, my partner at Illumination
on the Super Mario Bros film, we decided to move the global release date
to spring 2023, April 28th in Japan and April 7th in North America.
My deepest apologies, but I promised it will be well worth the wait.
Whoa.
Makes sense if they need to fix it.
And Nintendo will delay the shit out of anything.
They don't care.
That's true, yeah.
They're like, when's Breath of the Wild coming out?
And they're like, go fuck yourself.
That's when.
Yeah, maybe never now you've asked.
It's like the George R.R. Martin.
It's like every time you mention that book,
I tear one of the pages out and throw it in the fire.
That's right.
Yeah.
I have to write it again and my memory is very bad.
Yeah, exactly.
They're not coming out right.
And maybe I'll name a character after you
and they'll fall face first into a toilet.
And it's one of the old yucky toilets.
Old yucky toilets.
The villagers call it the old yucky toilet
because it's even yucky for fantasy medieval times.
Really?
Yeah.
Is it just the one toilet or is the whole toilet like a village of toilets?
The whole village is a toilet.
What?
Yeah.
That's gross.
Just a big gross pit.
Can't wait for whatever the next book is called in that series.
It's called the big village toilet.
The big toilet village.
The big yucky toilet village.
This is a new segment of the show.
It's in relation to our release dates.
This is called Switches Not Stitches.
So it's where two movies switch a release date.
Oh, my goodness.
What do you think?
Do you think you're going to get a lot of mileage out of Switches Not Stitches?
I like to think so.
Okay.
You know?
All right.
But I bet there's something next week, Mason.
Okay, great.
I'm happy for you.
Ant-Man 3 moves from July 28th, 2023.
Okay. Ant-Man 3 moves from July 28th, 2023 Okay To the Marvel's release date of February 17th, 2023
And vice versa
Really?
So there you go
Intriguing
Yeah, I don't know what that is
That's crazy
One's already filmed
I guess one's already finished and they're like
Give us another, give us some more time
Yeah, give us some more time
Give us more time
I don't think that's
I mean, it's like July, February
That's fair, but I was going to be like
There's not much time That's quite a bit of time in between But, you know, it's like July, February. That's fair. I was going to be like, there's not much time.
That's quite a bit of time in between.
But, you know, good, great, good on yous.
Right.
This is via the mirror.
The daily mirror?
No, this is the mirror I'm holding up to you, Mason.
Look how ugly you are.
Oh, no.
No, it is the daily mirror.
And I'm eating a big spaghetti.
I look weird.
Why didn't anyone tell me?
Oh, you've tucked in the tablecloth instead of a napkin, Mason.
Anyway, trash publication, but I thought this was interesting.
Screen legend Michael Caine confessed he spent eight years avoiding closing his eyelids so he would look more convincing on screen.
What?
He said, one thing that stuck in my mind was, don't blink.
You must never blink.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
For the next eight years.
I know you do it better.
Eight years.
Do I?
It's a matter of degrees, isn't it?
I walked around trying not to blink.
People around me, my mother and everybody, thought I'd gone nuts.
Wow.
They thought I was a psychopath.
I'm losing this.
I used to frighten the life out of people.
Michael's staring earned him the school nickname of Snake Eyes.
Whoa.
But even now he never blinks shooting a scene.
Is that true?
Madness.
That's –
If he went through his entire filmography –
Yes.
He's not blinking.
There's no way that's true. That cannot be true.
That cannot be true.
Anyway, that's news.
Yeah.
But I thought you were referring to something else.
There's another bit of Michael Caine news?
Well, no, but just Michael Caine this week just did some tweets,
some viral tweets.
What did he say?
One just says, hello.
Oh, I did say that.
It has 279,000 likes.
And then like a couple of hours later, he clearly had his fill of Twitter.
It's awful.
And he wrote, goodnight, my sweet ones.
That got another 105,000 likes.
He's killing it, mate.
And then yesterday he tweeted, hello, hello.
141,000 likes.
How does he do it?
I don't know.
I assume that's a reference to the classic Cat Empire song, Hello, Hello. Well, I did a tweet this week and it's got 5000 likes. How does he do it? I don't know. I assume that's a reference to the classic Cat Empire song,
Hello, Hello.
Well, I did a tweet this week and it's got 570 likes.
I just wrote Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium.
Great.
That didn't do as well though.
As Michael Caine announcing his return to Twitter.
I like to think that that's something though, isn't it?
I guess.
Have you seen Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium?
No, I haven't seen it.
As I just said in a follow-up tweet, I was just thinking about that movie.
Have you seen The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus I haven't seen it. As I just said in a follow-up tweet, I was just thinking about that movie.
Have you seen The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus?
Well, a lot of people have said that they thought that was the last Heath Legend movie.
One person in particular said, we went and saw that.
And then we're like, geez, Heath Legend didn't shoot much of this.
Yeah, because he's not in it.
It's a different movie. Anyways, it's been reported via The Guardian that Doctor Strange 2 is banned in Saudi Arabia
for barely 12 seconds of LGBTQ references.
Apparently the character of America Chavez, thank you,
is talking about her two mums and because she has two mums,
and this is via the statement, and being in the Middle East,
it's very tough to pass something like that.
Disney apparently told the distributors they're not willing
to cut the specified footage, which is good, I think, taking a stand.
But if this was, I think, able.
China?
Yeah, they would have cut it because I looked in the numbers
of Spider-Man No Way Home.
That made $1.9 billion.
In Saudi Arabia it made $5.2 million, which is, you know, it's good.
But, like, they can lose that for a bit of good faith.
Do you know what I mean?
Sure, yeah, yeah.
So anyway, not bad news.
Took a minor stand and that's something.
But it's also, is this too woke?
Is woke culture acceptable?
That $5.2 million would have just been one guy who rented out a cinema
and outfitted it in gold.
Well, that's true exactly, yeah.
Do you reckon that is true?
Yeah, I think it's true. Anyway, that's true exactly, yeah. Do you reckon that is true? Yeah, that is true.
Anyway, so good.
I'm looking good.
You could stand on a thing and that's good, isn't it?
I mean, they probably only did it because polling told them to do it.
Yeah, and the numbers, you know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Polling and the numbers, yeah.
FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship
between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies
on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London.
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The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost.
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Now, Doctor Strange 2 is going to have big cameos apparently.
I've tried not to have been watching any of this for like the past six months.
I'm like, whatever, I don't know.
Whenever the last trailer came out.
We're going to have to stay off Twitter for a couple of days probably before.
No, we don't because we're going to see it very early.
I think some other people are going to see it early.
No, no.
It's not.
It's not screening.
We're going to be some of the first.
So we'll be fine for everybody else.
So we can spoil it.
Yeah, yeah.
We're going to spoil it for everybody.
This is the one where we're going to do it.
We're going to burn all our bridges.
We always joke about it.
Yeah, but this is the one.
We're actually going to do it.
Yeah, we're going to do it.
Yeah, yeah.
I think it's just in the theater. Yeah, but this is the one. We're actually going to do it. Yeah, we're going to do it. Yeah, yeah. Just in the theatre.
Yes, that's right.
I'm going to have one of those secret like foot-tapper Morse code things
because we can't be seen tweeting about it in cinema.
So we're going to Morse code it out to somebody in the real world.
They'll tweet it for us.
It's like the movie Game Show did that, did it?
Maybe.
Yeah, maybe it did.
But I saw the suggestion, though, in the Great Mates group,
and I'm trying to bring up the person now,
but I don't know whether this is true.
Oh, it's Mr. Suggestion.
Mr. Suggestion popped by yet again.
Normally terrible suggestions, let me just say that.
Yeah, yeah.
Sorry, this is really – this face.
I just searched cameos in the Facebook posts,
and my computer's just – the Facebook's just like,
nah, nah, we don't like this.
Nah, I don't think so.
Nah, we won't do it.
So anyway, hopefully that will come up before the end of this segment
because we want to talk about the biggest or most surprising cameos
that you might see in a movie.
We're not doing TV shows, all right?
No, we're not talking about the time that George Clooney came back
to ER very briefly.
But he did and we've mentioned it now.
That's right.
All the Clooney heads out there who are like,
when are we going to mention it now?
All the Cloone heads.
Exactly.
Now I wanted to ask you also, this is what I think,
I'll say this and then you say something.
Okay, great.
The classic call and response of a conversation.
Yes, yes, yes.
Seamless.
I think there's a fine line between what's considered a cameo
and just somebody who's in a movie.
Oh yeah, sure. And I think that is
the amount of time that they're in it and
the level of surprise in saying that.
Do you think there's another factor that I've missed
there? Because a lot of people have been like
Tom Cruise in Tropic Thunder, but it's like
no, he's in that movie. That's true.
He's in like 20 minutes of that movie. Is that a
cameo? And maybe it's more
you consider it a cameo because.
I think it's a blink and you miss it, I reckon.
Okay.
You have to have a conversation with somebody outside the cinema
and be like.
Did you see the blink?
Did you see that guy in there?
Do you see Tom Cruise in this movie for 20 minutes?
No, I think sometimes they're very obvious.
Also, I don't want to do all the comic book ones because I'll just name
a few of note.
I think Hugh Jackman in X-Men First Class is great.
And I also remember being really surprised about Chris Evans
in Thor The Dark World.
But I think since then it's just the expectation.
Yeah.
So I'm never surprised.
I'm just like, okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Nice.
Nice.
Do you know what I mean?
Wonder what they got paid for that.
Or did they do it as a favour?
Yeah.
That's it.
This post isn't coming up.
I cannot find where somebody said this.
I apologize.
The person who said cameos, I hate fucking Facebook.
If I didn't have this group, I would be out of it.
Not that I even have it.
I don't run the group.
You know what I mean?
I understand.
Great mates group.
Anyways, so I think, I don't know.
The list that I've got, and I've sent you a similar list, similar, is-
Oh, there's some fake ones in here.
No, there's not really.
That's exactly the same.
It's mostly non-comic book movies.
I love that George Clooney cameo in Chicago Hope.
And you pounce on me like, that's not true.
You're an idiot.
So one of the most famous ones, and this isn't Blink and You Miss It,
but Matt Damon is in Euro Trip.
Yeah, he's the lead singer of the band that sings Scotty Doesn't Know.
And I was like, how did this happen?
And apparently he was old friends with the writer and he was in town.
Oh, right, that'll do it.
So, yeah.
He's also got a shaved head.
I don't know what the deal with any of that is.
No.
But he's fun in that movie, which probably has three good jokes in it.
You know?
Yeah.
People like that movie.
Yeah.
But like all of the movies from that era, it's probably real Bravo, mate.
I bet it is.
Yeah, I bet.
Yeah, I bet.
I bet every scene has something in it where you go, oh.
Gross.
It's one of those movies I reckon where you go, I'll show this to my friend
because of the one of the three good jokes in it.
And then you get into it and you're like, oh.
Actually.
It's 45 minutes until the first good joke.
And Damon, of course, pops up in a Thor.
He does.
He's doing a Thor.
But that's a comic book movie.
That's true.
And it's been struck from the record.
That is very true.
What have you got on my list, Mason?
Oh, on your list?
Yeah.
Oh, in Hot Fuzz?
Yes.
There was a very funny little bit.
Yep.
Where Nicholas Angel played by Simon Pegg.
That guy.
He just has to keep talking to various superiors
until he gets eventually to Cate Blanchett.
How'd she end up in that?
I think she's friends with Edgar Wright.
That'll do it.
But you can't see it's Cate Blanchett, though.
She's wearing a, isn't it his girlfriend as well?
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah, but she's wearing, like, full, like, crime scene gear.
That's right.
So you can't actually tell.
Oh, I am thinking of a different scene, yes.
I'm thinking of the scene where we run through, like, Bill Nye.
Yeah, oh, yeah, that's true.
And so on and so forth, yeah.
Yeah, you might be right.
Well, how do you feel about this, though?
I've put this in its own section.
Go on.
That creators turning up in their own movies.
So, like, George Lucas is in Revenge of the Sith.
By the way, Attack of the Clones this week for Caravan of Garbage.
Yes, it's real.
Thank you, everybody, who liked that weird video game one from last week.
You know what I don't like, James?
What's that?
I don't like most Star Wars cameos because it's like,
did you know Daniel Craig was a stormtrooper?
He's completely in a stormtrooper outfit.
And you actually never see his face and he never says anything.
He does say something.
Well, yeah.
Well, yeah.
I don't like it.
Fair enough.
Show me their face, you cowards.
Yeah.
Take me out of the movie.
I want to be like, that's Daniel Craig.
Take his mask off and he goes, that's right.
It's me.
It was Daniel Craig.
I'm playing James Bond in this movie.
I've fallen through time and space.
But he's also Daniel Craig.
Yeah.
Acknowledging that he's playing James Bond.
They're both in it.
Okay.
They're both.
Different actors?
No, both.
Different characters?
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
But it's very simple. They're using? Yes. Okay. Yeah. Okay. But it's very simple.
They're using a mirror.
Okay.
So Daniel Craig says, I'm playing James Bond.
And then next to him, another Daniel Craig goes, that's right.
Yep.
And I'm James Bond.
Yeah.
This is why I don't make movies.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think that's a great idea.
So Stan Lee.
I don't like after the fact.
Would you have recognized Daniel Craig?
100% no. Yeah. Stan Lee, I don't like after the fact. Would you have recognised Daniel Craig? 100% no.
Stan Lee, obviously all Marvel things.
Stephen King is in It and various other properties.
Peter Jackson was in Lord of the Rings, like each one of those.
Yeah, I think he was like a dude.
Wes Craven is in Scream in a little Freddy Krueger outfit.
Oh, okay.
How do you feel about that, creators being in their movies?
I know a lot of times they're reluctant to be in it.
Sometimes you'll be like M. Night
who's just like, I'm in this movie. I'm a character.
I'm an important character in this movie.
It's your movie.
Good. You should be in it. But how do you feel?
I love it. He loves it, everybody!
Now this is the end.
It's a cameo fest-a-thon.
Now that's the one where the world is ending.
But it's not the Simon Pegg, Nick Frost one.
No, it's the Hollywood one and everybody's all Hollywood, Hollywood.
They're all gone Hollywood.
It's Michael Cera and whatever, whatever, Paul Rudd.
But in that, I mean, they're all mates and whatever,
but then there's just a moment in it where Channing Tatum turns up.
Yeah.
And it's just in a gimp mask.
Right.
And then at the end there's the Backstreet Boys.
Yeah.
So that to me was the stuff that was like, oh, I am surprised.
Like seeing Paul Wright in that movie, it's like, yeah.
It's always interesting in those movies where there are a lot
of actors playing themselves and then you get just like,
is there a certain level of fame where you're like, well,
Seth Rogen can be Seth Rogen.
Yeah.
But I think Channing Tatum plays Channing Tatum, right?
Yeah.
Is there anyone in that movie who doesn't play themselves?
I don't think so.
Well, the devil, yeah.
That's true.
Who did play the devil in that?
Some guy.
Probably some.
I think it was a CGI guy.
Probably a CGI guy.
You ever seen Men in Black 2?
Yes, I have.
And?
Oh, Michaelson is in
that i mean what do you think of it i love it i love every appearance no i mean that movie oh
it's not as good as the first one it's a pale it's a pale shadow yeah of the original but i guess in
the first one they do mention i think there's a list a bunch of celebrities don't mind and there's
yeah there's a there's a video screen of all the people all the aliens who've come to earth and
taken on human form and i think michael jackson is yeah on that in that montage so and there's a video screen of all the people, all the aliens who have come to Earth and taken on human form,
and I think Michael Jackson is in that montage.
And there's a few, like, athletes in there.
And if my understanding is people get upset about athletes lately,
that's been a thing, hasn't it?
So if there was really aliens being athletes,
I think people would be very upset.
You know what I mean?
So too, yeah.
You know what I mean?
There's no subtext here.
I'm just talking.
I think they wouldn't be as upset as some.
I think aliens would probably be the lowest on their list of priorities
of people who are in sport that make them mad, honestly.
Sports they don't care about.
Yeah, sports they don't care about or watch, yes.
Okay, gotcha.
Good, good, good.
God, Iron Man 2.
I know I said we weren't going to do.
But you just had to put the – you're obsessed with it too, James.
It's a big one though,
you know what I mean? And it's outside of like the Marvel
universe, but Iron Man 2, Tony Stark
speaks to Elon Musk very briefly
and Elon Musk goes, we did a, came out and
I've got an idea for an electric jet.
You don't have ideas, but
great.
Yeah. Your ideas are, is this a,
what do you think of this meme?
You're 50. You just need to fucking just be normal.
Look at like eight kids.
Look at eight kids.
You just divorce dad energy.
It's just huge.
I saw someone tweet the other day.
He was born divorced.
Anyway.
There's nothing wrong with divorce.
It can be a good and healthy thing.
Do you know what I mean?
If a relationship is not working, step away.
But I just feel like, yeah, anyway, I hate that cameo.
And that man, he's great though.
He's also referenced in an episode of Discovery quite recently.
Like here's all the amazing geniuses that have brought the Starfleet
and the Federation to where it's been today.
Yeah.
But also the rest of the guys are made up.
Yeah, okay.
I also think that like he won't be remembered that way.
I think he thinks that he will.
Didn't he also pay to be, like, to have Lisa Simpson mention him
in The Simpsons?
I saw that this week.
Let's stop talking about Elon Musk.
No, Mason.
But I just say I think he'll be remembered more like Zuckerberg
than, like, an inventor of anything.
Anyways, Martin Sheen is in Hot Shots 2.
They cross each other in boats.
Yeah, right.
In Vietnam or wherever that movie's set.
And Martin Sheen says, I love you in Wall Street.
And Charlie Sheen says, I loved you in something.
The urine.
I can't remember.
Anyway, they're, because Martin Sheen was, of course, in Apocalypse Now.
Yeah.
Charlie Sheen was in that other Vietnam movie.
Two and a Half Men.
Two and a Half Men, Vietnam movie.
And, yeah, they're father and son.
That is very true.
Aren't they?
And Emilio Estevez is also in that family.
If they did a Hot Shots 3, they would have done,
they would have crossed over all three of Murray.
It's kind of amazing they haven't done a Hot Shots 3.
I think they still could do like a direct to something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think it would still be in the works.
You know what I mean?
I don't want to see that.
But they could do it.
They could do it.
You know what I mean? They did a Randy to see that. But they could do it. They could do it, you know what I mean?
They did a Randy Quaid National Lampoon spin-off, Uncle Barry
or whatever the fuck his name is in those movies, you know what I mean?
So the Anchorman movies, Mason.
Go on.
Like they've got a bunch of celebrities in them and whatever,
but in each of those movies there's a big fight.
Yes.
And then it's just like Will Smith is here and Ben Stiller is here
and Britney Spears is here.
I don't know.
I can't remember.
Do you think Britney Spears was there?
Sure.
What do you think?
No.
I also think that then.
That's terrific.
You know?
And that's – do you think it's kind of more –
I feel like with comedy films it's more likely that, like,
if you get a movie of that era, Jack Black's going to roll through or whatever.
Yeah, for sure.
John Dean or old Wilson or whatever and whatever.
I reckon Jack Black's not doing so many cameos these days.
I don't think so.
No, I reckon he's, you know.
He's doing big Jungle Cruise movies.
He's doing jungle movies, yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
I guess you're probably right.
I guess that was also for him that was before School of Rock.
He's in Anchorman.
He kicks the dog off the bridge.
That was before School of Rock or maybe around the time so he hadn't like fully like Jack Blacked into the show. He's in Anchorman. He kicks the dog off the bridge. That was before School of Rock or maybe around the time
so he hadn't like fully like jack blacked into.
That's true.
Into the stratosphere.
The jackosphere.
Yes.
Thank you.
Have you seen Prince of Thieves?
I mean maybe.
Yeah, but have you seen it?
Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves with Kevin Costner.
You've got it on your list, but do you know the cameo
I'm talking about?
Off the top of my head.
I saw you look down.
Of every actor in the world, I mean, he hadn't retired yet,
so I'm going to guess, educated guess, probably Sean Connery.
That's right, Mason.
Unless it's one of these trap cameos.
No, no, no, none of them are traps.
They really aren't.
So he came in and he got paid for that one brief scene.
Is he the real king or something?
I don't know.
I don't really remember that movie.
But he got paid $250,000 for that.
That's great.
USD.
Whoa.
None of these Scottish rubles, whatever they have over there.
You know what I mean?
Is that their currency?
In what?
In fake medieval Europe?
No, in Scotland.
Oh.
They have Scottish rubles, don't they?
Yeah.
Yeah, I thought so.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyways, I feel like I'm just, I'm naming them all.
Why don't you name one?
I mean, this is a movie that perhaps only we remember,
but Welcome to the Jungle.
Or The Rundown.
Or The Rundown in the US featuring The Rock.
Early The Rock action.
I think it's really good, although I haven't watched it in a while,
so who knows.
But there is a scene where he goes, The Rock,
his job is he goes and he retrieves stuff that people need retrieving.
He says, give it to me.
He says, give me the thing.
It could be a person.
It could be a.
Super Bowl ring.
Could be a bowl of soup.
Could be a bowl of soup.
Yeah.
You didn't pay for that bowl of soup.
That's how he talks about it.
Oh, he did.
My apologies.
But he goes into a nightclub earlier in the movie and he crosses paths with Arnold Schwarzenegger.
And Arnold Schwarzenegger's like, have fun.
Yeah.
And it was like a passing of the torch
because he became governor and The Rock became the new action star
and still kind of is that Arnold level of action star.
You know what I mean?
There's a very similar scene in the movie Collateral.
Let's talk about Collateral.
Is that in this list?
That is in here, yeah.
Oh, but Jason Statham very briefly pops in
with a very similar look to his character in The Transporter. It is him, apparently. Oh, but Jason Statham very briefly pops in with a very similar look
to his character in The Transporter.
It is him, apparently, because he's a transporting man.
That must have been his least exciting adventure.
Just hand a guy a thing.
Yeah, because I think that's probably how most of his jobs go.
Yes, sure.
You know?
But then every now and then there'll be somebody in the trunk of his car
and then he has to drive a plane into a boat or whatever happens in those movies.
There's a big spin kick in a pile of oil, right?
You've got one here.
Yeah.
I don't know who this is.
Okay.
In the movie Django Unchained.
Yes.
It says Franco Nero.
Yeah, so he is Italian.
I think he's a director, but he's mostly known as an actor and he's did a lot of like spaghetti westerns and stuff like that.
I see.
And because that movie is like largely inspired by films of that era
and, you know, Fistful of Dolls and whatever, whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
Then, yes, that's why he is in that movie.
I see.
And Quentin Tarantino is in that as well as an Australian.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Yeah, which I don't mind.
No, that's fine.
Whatever, bro.
Here's an interesting, this one is always interesting to me.
We'll say.
The genre.
Well, you've put it in here, so you probably think it's interesting also.
No.
In The Wedding Singer, set in the 80s.
Yes.
Modern day Billy Idol cameos.
Yeah, but he's still, that came out in 96.
Yeah, right.
So he wasn't that far, or whatever it was,
he wasn't that far removed from the 80s.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think if he did that now, it would be like, yikes.
No, not that he's aged terribly, but, you know,
10 years away from the 80s is not that big a deal.
That's true, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So there you go.
He was very smooth in the 80s, though.
He was so smooth.
So smooth.
Yeah.
Yeah, and off the back of that with comedies,
Wedding Crashers, Will Ferrell.
I mean, he's in that quite a bit, though.
You know, the meatloaf and whatever, and he like i crashed funerals now you know is that to count
some of the modes put in no doesn't count doesn't count you're in the bin will ferrell kevin smith
movies though go on they're bloody rife with cameos from people who play previous characters
like matt damon plays loki yes from dogma in the latest Jay and Silent Bob movie,
but he's also showed up as Matt Damon when they did Good Will Hunting 2.
I don't like that second Jay and Silent Bob movie much,
but that Good Will Hunting 2 scene is quite good, Mason.
But then Stan Lee's in Mallrats, Mark Hamill's in Jay and Silent Bob 2,
Jason Biggs is in that one as well.
It's a cameo fest-a-thon.
Yeah.
Will Smith is in Jersey Girl.
He is.
Yeah.
I feel that's a cameo.
That's a cameo.
That's a cameo.
I agree.
Some of those roles, like as much as I love Mark Hamill,
I feel like his appearance there was like his career had sort of.
Yeah, he wasn't like, he was doing sequestered DSV and stuff like that.
He was doing some TV and video game stuff.
I'm glad he's had a resurgence.
Totally.
And I also think.
Imagine if I wasn't glad.
I think they were like, hey, kids, it's Mark Hamill.
Because it like says that on the screen.
Yeah, yeah.
Because like under that makeup, you might not know it was him.
What, the character of Cockknocker?
Yeah.
You wouldn't know it was Mark Hamill.
Even with a lightsaber and a giant fist,
you might not necessarily know that was Mark Hamill.
That's very true.
So we mentioned Tropic Thunder and Tom Cruise,
but there's a bunch of fake trailers at the start of that,
and one of them has Tobey Maguire in it, and that's a cameo, I think.
That's a cameo, that's true.
You got a problem, Mason?
In Ocean's Eleven there was a scene.
You got a problem with that? Remember there's a scene where Brad Pitt
He teaches poker to a bunch of young
Hollywood whippersnappers and they're all terrible
Topher Grace is in there
Holly Marie Combs
Others
Somebody, one of the guys from Seventh Heaven
And that show What About Barry or whatever it was called
Remember that show? What's wrong with this Barry guy?
You know that show?
No Just google What About Barry or whatever it was called. Remember that show? What's wrong with this Barry guy? You know that show? No.
What's it called?
Let me find it.
Anyway, keep talking.
Just Google What About Barry show and see what comes up.
But again, so all of those real-life stars exist in a universe
where there is both Brad Pitt, the famous actor,
and a man who looks exactly like Brad Pitt.
Yes.
But is, you know but is a career criminal.
Absolutely.
But I guess that is also a universe in which there is the actor
Julia Roberts and a woman who looks exactly like Julia Roberts.
And not just like a little bit.
But identical.
Yeah.
He was in a show.
His name is Barry Watson.
Okay.
And he was in a TV show called What About Brian between 2006 and 2007.
There you go.
And he was also in Wilfred, the TV series.
Oh, American version of Wilfred?
That's right.
Yeah, so there you bloody go, mate.
Mate?
Mate.
Anyway.
Is Bruce Springsteen in High Fidelity?
Yes.
I have no memory of that.
At the start, he's just he's like john
cusack's character who has a name is like lamenting about his breakup it's rob yeah it's rob last name
it's rob high fidelity that's wait rob no it'd be rob fidelity wouldn't it it would be he was
always getting high in that movie so no he wasn't no he was as far as i remember uh why would they
call it high fidelity because i mean he was a drinker but he wasn't no he was as far as i remember why would they call it high fidelity
because i mean he was a drinker but he wasn't even an excessive drinker he was getting high
on music james well that is true i cannot the fact that you you couldn't even comprehend people
getting high on music that doesn't you didn't even know bruce springsteen was in this movie
that speaks to your character as a man who doesn't love music you didn't recognize the boss so if
even though they said his name so you're telling me i don't love music. You didn't recognize the boss. Even though they said his name. So you're telling me
I don't love music? I was born
in the USA, Mason. I wasn't
but that was the name of a song. That's true.
That means I love music. You were a working class man.
You also weren't.
You didn't go to K-Stand.
I got these podcasting calluses. That's right.
That is true. Anyway, there's a moment where he's lamenting
and he says something along the lines of
this is very like a Bruce Springsteen song.
And then Bruce Springsteen is just there and they just have like a chat.
Is it an hallucination?
Yeah, yeah.
So he's not really there.
But he was really there to film the cameo.
I think if they'd continued the High Fidelity TV series.
The boss would have showed up.
No, I reckon Bad Bunny would have shown up.
Wow, that'd be amazing.
Right?
Yeah.
He's like a nice guy, I don't know.
Yeah, probably.
Also, he's got 40 million followers on Instagram,
which I think, you know, that's a sign that people will watch the movie.
I don't think that always translates, you know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Remember the woman who did the Cinderella movie?
She was famous and whatever,
and then she did that Cinderella movie with James Corden
and people were like, we fucking hate this.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, that really famous person whose name I've forgotten.
But she wasn't playing a Mexican wrestler, was she?
I haven't seen it.
Was it Camila Cabello?
Yes.
Yeah, okay.
Scott Pilgrim is a cameo fest.
Yes.
But Chris Evans has a fun cameo.
But are these cameos?
I would say these two are.
Thomas Jane and Brandon Routh play the vegan police.
The vegan police.
I would say that would be more because they're not even.
They have half a scene.
Yeah, and they're not like ex-boyfriends.
They're just the vegan police show up.
Oh, wait.
Is Brandon Routh an ex-boyfriend?
Yes, he is.
So who's the other vegan police?
He is the guy.
He's got a big moustache.
You see him in lots of things.
He's a delight.
He's Latino.
He's in many things.
God.
He's a famous that guy and you go, oh, I love that guy.
Michael Peña?
No.
He is a moustache.
No.
Oh, Clifton Collins Jr.
There it is.
Yeah.
Oh, that guy, he's such a famous that guy, isn't he?
He's in Boondock Saints.
Yeah.
And that's a that guy.
Do you think this one counts?
Leonard Nimoy is in Star Trek 2009. Like he's in it. But do you think that's just like. No, that's a that guy. Do you think this one counts? Leonard Nimoy is in Star Trek 2009.
Like he's in it.
But do you think that's just like.
No, that's a role.
Because he has a substantial plot.
He has a substantial role to play in the plot.
Yeah, he kind of kicks up the whole thing, doesn't he?
And it's not like he's there and he's gone.
Like subsequent movies are like, oh, an old Spock show.
You don't just look at.
Old Spock's still around. That's who look at... Old Spock's still around.
That's true.
Old Spock died.
Did you see?
It was in the hollow newspapers,
the hologram newspapers we all read
and get delivered to us.
Is that how this works?
That's right.
A hologram paper boy shows up
and he throws it through your window.
Breaks your window for real.
Even though it's a hologram.
In Maverick, I actually watched this scene
because I'm like, is this true?
Donald Glover's in it. So there's a moment where Maverick, I actually watched this scene because I'm like, is this true? Donald Glover's in it.
So there's a moment where Maverick gets robbed.
Okay.
And the guy's wearing a mask and you're like, is that bloody?
Not Donald Glover.
Am I saying the wrong Glover?
Yes.
Yeah.
Danny Glover.
Danny Glover.
Okay.
Fuck.
And they're not related.
That is true.
Anyway, yeah, because they're obviously a fucking,
what is wrong with me, lethal weapon.
My coconut sugar is worn off.
Yeah, right.
My superpower to get me through this podcast.
That's your Morbius blue blood.
It's becoming less effective every week.
You're getting less and less time before you need another coconut sugar.
So he turns up and he robs some people
and there's a moment where they really look at each other
and then they're like, nah, nah, I don't know you or whatever.
And they wouldn't know each other because it's a different franchise and it's the past and they're playing different characters.
But in real life, they would know each other.
Even if Danny Glover had shown up as his character from Lethal Weapon, Maverick still wouldn't have recognized him.
No, he wouldn't have, exactly.
Very true.
But do you reckon Danny Glover would recognize Mel Gibson?
No.
Be like, you look like Riggs, but you can't be Riggs.
This is the past and your name is Maverick.
Oh, that's probably true actually.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, cool.
Good stuff.
Maverick would have no context for this.
I agree.
He'd probably start blasting.
Probably would start blasting.
Chuck Norris is in Dodgeball.
That's true.
That was a big deal at the time.
That sucks.
Dustin Hoffman is in Dodgeball. That was a big deal at the time. That sucks. Dustin Hoffman is in The Holiday.
Okay.
There's a moment where Jack Black is picking up different movies
in the video store.
Okay.
And he's like, look at this.
And he's doing like the songs from each movie or whatever.
Anyway.
Jack Black in it.
Yes.
He's Jack Black.
He's shooting off into the Jackosphere.
He really is at this point, 2007.
Anyway, he does The Graduate.
And Dustin Hoffman is there. And he's really is at this point, 2007. Anyway, he does The Graduate and Dustin Hoffman is there and they just cut to him and he's like,
I can't go anywhere, I'm Dustin Hoffman or whatever.
Anyway, apparently Dustin Hoffman was walking down the street
and wanted to see what was being filmed and he knew the director
and they just put him into the scene.
And Jack Black went,
as he does.
Mrs. Robinson.
I like want to. Mrs. Robinson. Yeah.
I don't know.
I like Jack Black.
Yeah.
I feel like people might think I'm making fun of him,
where if anything, he's making fun of all of us.
That first Tenacious D album is amazing.
I completely agree.
And maybe the second one is.
Nobody listened to it.
Yeah.
What else we got, Mason?
James.
Pick anything.
Okay.
God. I mean, not anything, but it. Pick anything. Okay, God.
I mean, not anything, but it can be anything.
Okay.
Yeah.
Cold Player and Shaun of the Dead?
Yeah, at the end. I'm skipping down a few.
Yeah, at the end they're like,
we're doing this tribute album to the zombies or whatever.
They catch them on the news or whatever.
Oh.
Do you not know music?
I thought you said you knew a lot about music
and I didn't know anything about music.
I know music, so I don't know Coldplay.
That's a burn on multi-platinum award-winning.
They're going to feel that.
They're absolutely going to feel that.
I like some Coldplay too.
Yeah, especially that first album, that Tenacious D album.
Really good.
God, yeah.
Deadpool 2 has both.
They got Chris Martin in to do some rig-a-goo-goos.
Deadpool 2 has, I know no cover movies, but Brad Pitt and Matt Damon.
You know?
I do know, yes.
Matt Damon's like a redneck guy.
Mike Tyson's in The Hangover.
I think that was a surprise, right?
Was that in the trailer?
I think so.
It was.
I don't know.
No, the tiger was in the trailer.
Yes, yes, yes.
I don't know about Mike Tyson.
Harold and Kumar.
Well, I think they all have Neil Patrick Harris,
but the first one it was like a surprise, right?
I remember being surprised.
And he's like a hyper-masculine, like hyper-straight dude.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I've only seen two of those potentially three or four movies.
Same.
Agreed.
John Depp is in 21 Jump Street.
Oh, Jonathan Depp.
Reprising his role
From the previous franchise
Was Richard Grieco also in that?
I want to say he was in the sequel
But I don't want to say that
Because I don't know for a fact
Did you know Glenn Close is in Hook as a pirate?
She's got a beard and everything
They make her up to look like one of the crew
That's great
Yeah
And also there's a moment where
Somebody flies over somebody in London
or whatever happens in that movie.
Terrific.
And a couple who are like embracing on a bridge, probably in London,
are lifted into the air by the magic and it's George Lucas
and Carrie Fisher.
Oh.
And that's fun because they know each other.
True.
Yeah.
It would be weird if they didn't.
Imagine the magic lifted them up and they're like, look, oh, look,
beautiful, and they're like, this is awkward.
I don't know.
I don't know you.
We're both contemplating leaping into the water actually.
We've got a mutual friend in Steven Spielberg,
but we ourselves, we're not.
We did not get along.
Zooland has David Bowie, Billy Zane, Justin Theroux,
who's also in Star Wars as well, The Last Jedi.
A Million Ways to Die in the West.
It's an okay comedy but it has Christopher Lloyd as Doc Brown in it
and he's fixing the DeLorean.
Like they open a door and he's like,
I'm just doing a weather experiment and it's Doc Brown or whatever.
But he's also like the age he was when that movie came out,
which implies that he got stuck in the old west again.
No.
And he's just going to die there.
Just going to die there.
That's one of the ways to die in the West, you time travel back.
Exactly.
DeLorean doesn't work anymore and you die there.
That's right.
Now, and Wayne's World movie, we're kind of speeding through these
because Mason has to go to do a big work, don't you?
I do have to do a big work.
But, I mean, what else do you have?
They're cameos.
So what are we doing?
That's right.
You know what I mean?
Wayne's World 1 and 2, they've got a bunch of people.
But I think Charlton Heston's in the second one.
There's like an actor, like a service station attendant,
and he's doing the lines.
And Mike Myers is like, can we get someone like with a bit more gravitas?
And they roll in Charlton Heston.
And it's quite fun.
Do you remember that?
How did they get a Charlton Heston for that?
Great question. I don't know. They just did. I feel like Charlton Heston would be like quite fun. Do you remember that? How did they get a Charlton Heston for that? Great question.
I don't know.
They just did.
I feel like Charlton Heston would be like, are you making fun of me?
Yes, we are Charlton Heston.
Terrific.
I'll do it.
And Robert Patrick reprises his role as the T-1000.
That's right.
In the first one.
He chases down Mike Myers or whatever and that's fun.
Madonna's in Die Another Day.
Oh, my God.
Incredible.
Is it?
Yeah.
Okay.
Trump is in Home Alone 2.
Because apparently he required that if you filmed in his hotels,
he demanded you film a cameo with him.
But most film directors would do that.
That's not what I meant.
Yeah.
That's cool.
This one made it.
Nice.
Great.
I love it.
Bill Murray is in Zombieland.
Does that count as a cameo?
I think the second one is.
Yeah.
But again, he was in the first one.
I think it's a surprise, though, because you don't know he's in it.
I also, you know what, I think it does count as a cameo
because what, it's not really, the plot is not contingent
on it being Bill Murray.
They're just in a house.
And it happens to be.
It happens to be Bill Murray's house.
It's true.
And a couple more to wrap it up, Mason.
Do you want to bring us home in a big way?
Oh, Daniel Craig's Star Wars.
Yeah, not that one.
The next two.
You don't have to do it in that voice either.
I think Prince William and Harry were supposed to be in the next one,
but they had to cut them out or whatever.
Yeah, that's a shame.
Because you can't have everything, can you?
No, that's very true.
Yeah.
Apparently those beautiful boys can.
Are they beautiful?
Yes.
I mean, by royal standards, but not by regular person standards, I would say.
It's probably true.
Not to throw shade, Mason.
Dan Aykroyd, of course, is in the Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.
He's British.
How'd he get that?
Dunno.
Spielberg, probably.
Probably Spielberg, yeah.
No Spielberg and whatever.
It would be fun to know Spielberg.
I think it would be.
How do you do that?
How do you know somebody?
I wouldn't go up to him at a party.
You know what I mean?
That's true.
This would leave him alone, I reckon.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
You need a very specific question about lenses or something.
I could think.
What prescription are your lenses, Stephen Spielberg?
That's exactly right, yes.
I'm a big fan of cinema.
What kind of glasses do you wear?
How do you see that little monitor?
Is that a bifocal?
And, of course, rounding it out big time.
Yeah, I think so.
Jimmy Buffett appears in Jurassic World.
Why does he?
Running away from dinosaurs, holding two margaritas,
as he would be as he flees Jimmy Buffett's Margaritaville.
I think that's completely understandable.
Do you think visits to Jimmy Buffett's Margaritaville
in real life increased because of his appearance?
100%.
And the appearance of Margaritaville in Jurassic World?
I think it did nothing but help.
Do you think that he did some sort of Jurassic World-themed Margarita
at Margaritaville?
It's called, like, Velociraptor, but it's got alcohol in it
and it's a drink.
What do you think? Nice, I love it. I love it. it's a drink. What do you think?
Nice.
I love it.
I love it.
I would have just called it dinosaur drink,
but I think velociraptor, like it makes it seem edgy and dangerous.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You get it.
Anyways, what a great one.
Let's keep going.
What are we reading?
What are we going to read?
Yeah, segment.
New segment.
Not new. Original. Not's keep going. What are we reading? What we gotta read. Yeah, segment. New segment. Not new.
Original. Not to this episode. We've done it before.
Westworld.
Westworld.
Don't mind if I do. Mason, this is the
segment of the show where we talk about things we've read or
watched or listened to. Yeah.
This week I think we both read it and watched it.
The movie Ambulance.
Yes.
Michael Bay is back, baby.
He's just auteuring all over the place.
He's the last great beautiful auteur.
It's true.
The last great action auteur.
And so this is a movie in which Yahya Abdul-Mateen II,
he's left two lives behind, both being in the army and crime. Yeah. He's left a life of – he's left two lives behind,
both being in the army and crime.
Yes.
But his wife needs some surgery.
It's going to be very spenno.
It's going to be pretty spenno surgery, they say.
This surgery is going to be so spenno.
Really, Doctor?
Yes.
Yes, very much so.
So spenno.
And he keeps lying to his wife like she's not going to find out.
And she's like, don't go to Danny for help about this.
He's robbed 37 banks and everybody knows that,
but he's not in jail and he has a regular job.
We haven't gotten to this.
Okay.
Spoilers?
Yeah, spoilers.
It's fine.
His pal goes to his adoptive brother who's played by the great
Jake Gyllenhaal being Mysterio.
He's doing his Mysterio character.
What a cameo.
He's manic and he's wearing a turtleneck.
Yeah.
So he is a career criminal.
Because his dad was.
Because his dad was.
And he says, Yaya goes to Jake Gyllenhaal and he's like,
can I have a loan to pay this $100,000 plus surgery?
And Jake Gyllenhaal's like, no, but I'm going to do a heist
in literally five minutes.
Crazy.
Do you want in on this?
I lost a guy?
Yeah.
What?
Right?
And everybody, like he's a famous bank robber.
But as I said, he's got a job?
Yeah.
Like minding cars?
I thought they were his cars.
Were they?
Yes.
I thought he worked for somebody or whatever.
Didn't he?
You know what?
I don't care.
It doesn't matter.
But the fact that he's not in jail, it, like, blows my mind.
Well, I mean, you sort of have to.
Here's the thing.
I think I enjoyed this for the most part.
You know, I'll tell you.
Yeah, I enjoyed it.
Let me tell you this, James.
I think this movie came about because michael bay kept going to parties big
hollywood parties and he'd say hi my name's michael i'm a film director and somebody would be like oh
my god i love that movie you made where where it's it's oh my god it's in the city and there's the
heist and the bank heist goes wrong yeah and there's just all the shooting and the cops are
shooting and the robbers are shooting oh my, my God, that movie is so incredible.
Yeah, that's right.
And he has to be like, no, that's Michael Mann.
You're thinking the movie Heat.
But now when people come up to him and go, oh, my God, I love that movie with the bank heist and it goes wrong
and there's all the people shooting.
He'd go, yeah, it is good, isn't it?
I did make that and it is good actually.
So don't worry about it.
Here's the thing about this movie though.
It's not as juvenile as, say, the Transformers movies.
Absolutely not.
But I don't know if that is just – I don't know if that's he deliberately
made the Transformers movies juvenile or his style has simply evolved
to be less juvenile.
But his pre-Transformer movies aren't as juvenile either.
Right, right, yeah.
You know what I mean?
It is still fascinating that the Michael Bay bleed through in this movie
in the sense of like what characteristics should we give
to the FBI chief who's chasing these criminals?
He drives a really little car and he has a big dog.
Yeah.
Do you want to give him a personality?
That is the personality.
What are you talking about?
Yeah, I've done it.
He drives a little car and he has a big dog are you fucking deaf it's yeah and there's also a few lines in this where he's like
i love the movie the rock i love you know he's like i haven't seen it oh whatever and then there's
a bit where the cops get out of the car and they're like let's get out of the car like in the movie
bad boys hey man it's your movie you do what you want all right what do you think in the branding
various cars and watches cars and watches and heineken alcohol free beer oh my god made a real point of that yeah
cheetos that's the i mean that's the michael bay style isn't it yeah yeah yeah i think and i what
i think about uh their crew even though the crew get wiped out quite a bit early and one gets his
legs horribly mashed which was awful to say. Legs and groin.
That's true.
Is that all his crew, they take the diehard approach,
as in they have little personalities, where you know each of them,
even though they're not in it that long.
It's like, oh, that guy's got the beard and that guy's the hipster guy and that guy's the whatever.
Oh, those personalities, yes.
Yeah, but it's the same with diehard.
You know what I mean?
Each one of them, even though you don't know their names,
you're like, I can tell these apart.
Yeah, yeah. Whereas often it's like generic men in suits. Yeah, that's true. Like, you know what I mean? Like each one of them, even though you don't know their names, you're like, I can tell these apart.
Whereas often it's like generic men in suits and they all look like bouncers or whatever.
I feel like this has got to –
Look, and I think, again, it has the great Michael Bay look.
Everything looks very crisp and good.
And the action sequence is really good.
And has been mentioned, you know, there are some great drone shots
where I think these days –
There's a lot of drone shots.
There's a lot of drone shots, but I think, you know, there are some great drone shots where I think these days there's a lot of drone shots,
but I think, you know, and I think they're quite effective.
And I think, you know, in a lot of instances,
some of the stuff where, you know, there's maybe like two men fighting
on the ground and it spins around and what have you,
that would be done with visual effects and it wouldn't look as good.
Or a person on a rope.
A person on a rope.
Yeah.
A person on a rope.
and it wouldn't look as good.
Or a person on a rope.
A person on a rope.
Yeah.
A person on a rope.
But you sort of have to buy into this idea that a guy is willing to do a heist with five minutes notice and, like,
he doesn't ask for a mask.
No.
Disguises and master an afterthought in this.
Like, as you mentioned, Gyllenhaal puts on a mask
after he's already done the bank heist.
Yeah.
And everybody's seen him on camera and they've already identified him.
What are you doing?
And as if you – like if you're a guy and you want – Bulletproof maybe?
I don't know.
Surely not.
But like if you're a guy who wants to pay for your wife's surgery
and you live in Los Angeles, you've got a house there
and you've got all this settled in, you're not going to go like, they're going to find you.
Yeah, exactly.
What's the madness?
It didn't make sense to me.
What are you thinking?
It would be like, do you have a fake mustache or something I can put on?
A hoodie?
A hoodie?
A hoodie.
Yeah, I think you're not supposed to.
He's wearing a hoodie.
He doesn't even put up the hood of his hoodie.
I agree.
And the fact that, okay, so again, we're spoiling.
Jake Gyllenhaal dies at the end and his brother lives
because Jake Gyllenhaal turns and he's like,
I'm going to shoot the Ambo, it's an ambulance driver with us.
Oh, yeah, the heist goes wrong, by the way,
and they end up in the back of an ambulance.
In an ambulance for two and a half hours, I think, from then on.
With a shot cop and an EMT.
Yeah.
It's an adaptation of a different movie, foreign.
A foreign movie.
A foreign movie?
A foreign movie.
Are they allowed to make those?
No.
No, no, no, no.
And there's a moment where they're like, okay, we've got to lose the cops.
So they drive to an area where there's a number of other ambulances there.
Yes.
And then they spray paint their ambulance screen like it's fucking GTA.
Yes.
And then they drive off.
Yes. But, like, just's fucking GTA. Yes. And then they drive off. Yes.
But, like, just swap vans.
Right.
Like, you could just get in a different van and drive,
like, leave the ambulance there with the patient and the Ambo
and then just go.
I don't understand why they stayed in that van.
There's a minigun minute.
What do you think, Mason?
Pretty good.
And at the end, the ambulance.
Ten out of ten.
Yep, the ambulance driver's like.
Minigun minute's either zero out of ten or ten out of ten. I understand. Yeah, and they do it. And then at the end, the ambulance. 10 out of 10. Yep, the ambulance driver's like. Minigun minutes either 0 out of 10 or 10 out of 10.
I understand.
Yeah, and they do it.
And then in the end, the AMBO's like, actually, I love my patients
and I'm committed to my patients.
And she's like, I don't care what happens to my patients
once they're out of my ambulance.
I go and have an alcohol-free beer.
That's right.
Which is right, by the way.
I think you have to shut that part off yourself, you know what I mean,
to do that job.
You did it as a teacher.
I did.
I don't remember a single thing, a single goddamn thing.
Who knows what I said or did?
Anyways, it's like an hour too long.
I feel like it doesn't keep the pace the way that like Speed does
or Die Hard.
I think there's a lot of like the cops circling them and they go
under a bridge and then the cops are like, where are they?
Oh, no, there they are.
Yeah.
And that happens nine times.
I reckon if it didn't have the cast that it does,
especially the
main two guys, no
interest, honestly.
But it's-
And Gyllenhaal is
doing that mugging
thing that he does
where he's like, I
think he's just been
allowed to be wacky
on set a little bit.
He's like, this is a
cashmere sweater.
I can't believe you
fire extinguish it all
over and all that.
You took it in a
bank robbery.
Yeah, right?
What are you thinking?
I mean, he had to
pretend to be a bank
manager or whatever,
I remember.
What bank manager
wears a turtleneck?
Great question.
In LA?
Are you fucking kidding me?
Right?
If this is set in LA, it probably is.
Well, it is because it's Ambulance.
What?
Ambulance.
Like La La Lance.
Yes.
Yes.
Okay, do it.
Yeah.
Do you want to do the next segment of the show?
I do.
It's letters.
I invite you to do it.
I'm going to do it. Thank you for the invitation. Every other time I've had to force my way into the show? I do. It's letters. I invite you to do it. I'm going to do it.
Thank you for the invitation.
Every other time I've had to force my way into this, but thank you.
It's true.
Here it is.
The classic one was letters, oh letters.
We love you, some letters.
They're only a day away.
I know they're here right now.
We're going to do letters.
I'm not afraid to admit that it is time for Letters, Mason. That's very good.
And this is where we talk about letters that we've
gotten from people we know
or love. The listeners of this
show. That's right. We know them or
we love them. You can hashtag Weekly Planet...
We love you until you send an email in, at which
point we know you, and then we do not love you.
Then we do not love you anymore.
But yeah, hashtag Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter
or Weekly Planet Pod at gmail.com. Here's one. This is from James. Hello, James. Not yeah, hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter or WeeklyPlanetPod at gmail.com.
Here's one.
This is from James.
Hello, James.
Not you, though.
Different guy.
Hi, James and Maiso.
Hello.
Fortunately not as a result of a horrific pod-induced accident,
but I'm sitting here in accident and emergency
and just wanted to thank you for your Moon Knight recap vids
as I just invested some of my dwindling phone battery
on the latest episode to keep my spirits up.
Nice.
Quick pod topic idea.
Could you do an episode on your favourite early or obscure roles
by big-time stars?
Yes.
Yes.
James, that's from James.
Okay.
I think we could do that, absolutely.
I reckon we could do it.
We're not cowards.
We'll do it.
No, we're happy to do it.
And good luck in whatever has befallen you then.
I hope you're doing all right.
Yeah.
On podcast related, so probably vlogging related.
Probably his lighting rig from vlogging fell on him.
Yes. Also, I just want to point out, we got
an email last week about how
a person and their girlfriend, they called us
those trash guys or whatever.
And I was listening back to that episode because I like to every now and then.
I'm like, I don't feel like I gave that the kudos that it deserved.
I just kind of went, okay, yeah, next.
I think I might have been looking up a piece of news
as I was explaining that.
So I just wanted to say that I acknowledge that email and I enjoyed it.
That's very brave of you.
Thank you.
Anyways, this is from Troy who says, hashtag weeklyplanetpod.
Hey, James and Mason, the other week someone asked me about Knight Rider.
I wanted to bring Chariot, a graphic novel by AW Studios,
to your attention.
A movie is in development and big Knight Rider vibes.
I saw the cover.
I also saw the cover, yeah.
It looks super rad and cool.
All right, we should get copies of that.
I think we should too.
And read it and let people know what it's like.
And if we don't like it, we're going to throw them all the way,
all the copies, and we're going to find them.
If you have a copy of that and we don't like it,
send it to us because we will destroy it.
We're going to find it.
We're going to throw it down the drain.
That's right.
Big drain.
Big drain.
But no, thank you for the recommendation.
That looks good.
I will check that out.
What else have you got, Mason?
Very good. What else? Let's have a look. James, let's have a look. I'm good. I will check that out. What else have you got, Mason? Very good.
What else?
Let's have a look.
James, let's have a look.
I'm waiting.
All right, great.
Do you want me to do a tweet while you wait?
Yes, please.
This is from OhDannyBoyThePipesThePipes.
Hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod.
I genuinely don't know what I'd do without you fellas.
Snap, I guess.
I'd probably snap.
Sometimes during the workday I go hours on end
without any
positive human interaction but at least i've got mr sunday movies and at wikipedia brown that's
beautiful thank you so much and i hope that uh i mean that sucks yeah you know and he's like i
fucking hate this place every goddamn day i'm seeing these faces this is car work from home
so i get that a lot obviously so i understand where you're coming from yeah that's right no
i've worked in an environment where you're like,
God, I hate this.
God, I hate this so much.
I hate everybody here.
Maybe it's me.
Maybe I'm the problem.
Oh, because it's every workplace you've ever worked at. That's right.
And if you hate every workplace you've ever worked at,
it's you probably.
That's right.
This is from Ken.
Hello, Ken.
Subject line, The Northman.
Sorry to disappoint you both on wanting to visit Iceland,
but most of the movie was filmed
in Northern Ireland due to COVID restrictions.
I'm Ken.
Well, then I don't want to visit Iceland at all.
I've been to Ireland.
Was it like that?
No.
Wow.
There was not a single volcano.
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah, that I saw that day anyway.
Now, Mason, I know you do have to rush out,
so do you want to just take one of the outros from another episode
and Collington put it in?
No. I'm not kidding. Let's do it. Wow. What do you think? Let's bang it out. So do you want to just take one of the outros from another episode and Collington put it in? No. I'm not kidding.
Let's do it. Wow. What do you think?
Now let's bang it out. Alright. Folks.
Nice.
There we go. That's good.
That is delicious. We'll put it on one of them. Anyway, folks, thank you so much for
listening to the podcast. We very much appreciate it.
Well, now I've completely lost
momentum. Could have put the thing in.
That's very true, but I shan't be doing it.
Folks, thank you so much for liking the show,
subscribing to the show.
Thank you for telling your friends about the show.
Thank you for leaving a five-star review
because it helps other people find the show.
James, you got any reviews there?
Yes, this is from DVFGDHVBJ.
The best podcast ever, they say,
giving us a five-star which you can just do in app.
Nice.
The best podcast out there.
I loved them in 2016 and I love their YouTube channel.
Thanks, man.
And this is from Mouse Corn who says,
Two groovy dudes.
These guys have had good fun and are not idiots.
Been listening to them for years and I only thought to give them a review now.
Thanks for all the laughs, guys.
Will you ever do a live tour in the US after COVID?
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Maybe, yeah.
Takes a lot of effort to yeah. No immediate plans.
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Nice, big finish.
I agree.
Yeah.
That sounded like a big finish then, didn't it?
Ooh.
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