The Weekly Planet - 436 Star Wars Celebration & Top Gun: Maverick
Episode Date: May 30, 2022Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.It might absolutely astound you but it's time for another podcast yet... again. This week we cover both Top Gun: Maverick, Star Wars Celebration 2022 and a bunch of other guff including a trailer for Thor: Love & Thunder, a Winnie The Pooh horror movie and a stupid NFT situation. Thanks for listening!The Phantom Menace Marketing Invasion: https://youtu.be/PiGnf77PCZ400:00 The Start04:06 Seth Green NFT Drama11:14 Winnie the Pooh Horror Movie13:32 Warner Bros Unhappy with J. J. Abrams18:34 Thor: Love and Thunder Trailer25:15 The Gray Man Trailer26:35 Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning Trailer31:39 Star Wars Celebration31:43 Skeleton Crew Series32:44 The Mandalorian Season Three35:23 Ashoka Series Details35:54 Tale of the Jedi Announcement37:05 Taika Waititi Star Wars Movie37:47 Indiana Jones 5 First Look39:23 Willow Series Trailer45:36 Andor Series Trailer54:10 Top Gun: Maverick Review (spoilers 01:13:24 to 01:33:22)01:33:22 Obi-Wan Kenobi Episode One and Two Review (spoilers 01:33:22 to 01:45:35)01:45:35 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:50:13 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram â–º https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter â–º https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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My name is James, also known as Mr. Sundabe.
With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason.
Mr. Sundabe.
Did you misspeak?
Did you misspeak is the question.
Did you misspeak?
I did not misspeak.
But you sound like you misspoke.
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So you're saying that I misspoke, but you didn't misspoke?
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Since you were the one quick to jump in and correct my obvious non-error.
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This is nothing, though.
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Oh, that's our slogan, actually.
This is nothing.
Just go with it.
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But we've got big news this week.
We've got some apes being stolen.
That'll be Mason.
Have they been mutated by slurp juice, these apes?
No.
Maybe?
I don't know.
Depending on what that means.
I think there was an ape and a mutant stolen.
Oh, okay. Yeah, there was a couple. You're right.
Yeah, yeah. And then just a pencil
drawing on a bit of toilet paper or something.
Then we've got news of
J.J. Abrams' deal at Warner
Brothers Discovery potentially going
sour. Trailers ahoy for
Thor Love and Thunder, The Grey Man, and Mission
Impossible Dead Reckoning. Then, of course, we've got
Star Wars Celebration.
A lot of stuff coming out of that, not just Star Wars.
There's some Indiana Jones news and some Willow news thrown in there
on top of some new series announcements and some footage that was shown
in a new trailer for Andor.
Yes.
Then we're going to talk Top Gun Maverick.
That's right.
It's time.
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And if you do want to hear any of any things in particular,
Collings, who edits these
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but...
James! Did you misspeak then, Mason? Yeah, I did. I meant Sunday, actually. Because we're recording on Sunday. Ah, James.
Did you misspeak then, Mason? Yeah, I did.
I meant Sunday, actually.
Yeah, because we're recording on Sunday.
That's correct, which is the day we normally record.
We do a Sunday night so we can get as much hot news as we can before it goes out Monday
morning.
That's right.
The news is always just a rip-roaring bloody celebration on a weekend.
It's true.
Hollywood doesn't stop on the weekend.
It only mostly stops on the weekend. That's right. Oh, we're going to talk a little bit about Obi-Wan as well
and a bit later. And speaking of, at BigSandwich.co, which is our bonus subscription service,
like our private Patreon, we have a bunch of extra stuff we do there. This week was Comic
Book Club and we looked at some very strange Obi-Wan comics from the past. Yes, I think no
longer in continuity, Obi-Wan comics. Yes, you are correct. Some wild speculation from comic book writers and artists in the past
as to what's anything.
Of the dark history of Obi-Wan, what could it really be?
Yeah.
Something weird.
Something weird, exactly.
We looked at a couple of stories there.
Anyways, this story.
Not a man working in a meat factory.
No, certainly not.
Mm-hmm.
Every day I play a little game.
I call it Hide the Meat.
Oh, everyone.
Uncle Owen, are you familiar with this game?
You're awful wherever you go.
Uncle Owen, do you want to see my hidden meat?
No.
Uncle Owen, sometimes I get my hidden meat out on the space bus
and I say hello there.
Do you want a little taste of my hidden meat?
You can have a little nibble and then you can perhaps
have a big mouthful.
I'm rude Obi-Wan Kenobi.
My allegiance isn't to democracy, it's to hidden meat.
What an awful character you've created that I can't veto.
He's so rude, this guy.
He's so rude.
Why is he so weird?
I don't like him.
I don't like him either.
He gets ruder every week.
Anyways, Seth Green, you might have seen this this week.
I put my little meat in a little package.
He does.
He makes sure he wraps it up, which I guess is good.
But so Seth Green, you might have seen this bit.
I can't believe this is the first bit of news.
I just think it speaks to the future of entertainment in a bad way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or what it could potentially be.
So this is the second Family Guy alum to have an NFT-based TV show.
You know what Venus did once?
She did Stoner Cats.
Which was awful also.
I think all the Emmys it won begged to differ.
Yeah, okay.
Did it?
No, I'm thinking of a parallel universe in which that happens.
Where everything that's awful wins something?
It's even more awful.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Anyway, so as people might be aware, if you follow NFTs, one of the –
God, okay.
It's so stupid.
But look, I know there's a lot of people that are really into it
and you're probably going to be like, actually, you don't understand it.
Actually, you've been conned.
I'm sorry to tell you.
I'm sorry to break it to you.
Maybe you managed to flip something at some point,
but I advise you if you haven't got into any of this yet, do not do that.
Or purchase a slurp juice for your ape.
And this is financial advice.
No.
Of course it absolutely is not.
So basically they're pictures of monkeys and people purchase them.
And other things.
And other things.
Sometimes it's stolen other people's art.
Yes, a lot of the time it is that.
And then you basically own the rights of that, including digital
and otherwise, to this character or image.
And it's also outside of any known copyright systems
or any standard legal requirements.
Basically, if you have the digital receipt, for lack of a better term
of how you would explain this, then you own that, right?
Well, really you own the right to the URL.
Yes, anybody can copy and paste that image
and do whatever they want with it also, it turns out.
But anyway, Bored Apes come with a licence to make personal
and commercial use of your new primate pal.
When you purchase an ape, you are granted the right
to reproduce its image and create derivative works.
Seth Green had planned to do just that.
For months he had been developing a series called White Horse Tavern.
Months?
Yeah, great question.
Whoa!
Ollie's just watching the trailer for White Horse Tavern.
Oh, incredible.
As we did before the show.
He's thrilled.
It's very upsetting.
Which combines live action and animation and stars an ape with a halo
and endearing intimacy issues as the titular watering hole's bartender. upsetting, which combines live action and animation and stars, an ape with a halo and
endearing intimacy issues as the titular watering holes bartender.
I'm just going to let the dog out and then I'll come back to this.
So we actually, we hadn't seen any of this until we gave the trailer a look-see before,
which I played at.
A bit of a look-ee-loo.
It was at Gary V's NFT festival, whatever he was doing.
That's where it was filmed off.
And it's Imagine Cheers but with the ugliest fucking art you've ever seen
and not funny.
And no plot?
And no plot.
It feels like an ad for like a digital camera when people still bought those.
It did feel like that, yeah.
We're just having some experiences.
What are they?
They're very vague but maybe you could have them too.
Don't you think it would be like more of a compelling concept
if any of the art was good, you know?
Yeah, maybe.
Which I guess is why they steal a bunch of stuff.
But you know what I mean?
Like Chippendale, which we watched last week.
Like Chippendale.
It could be, yeah, exactly.
It looked about, I don't know, like 1% as good as that, I guess.
Yeah, but it just looks sort of like it was just various largely
unconnected moments at a bar with various humans
and various animated NFTs.
And they're all dating on their phones.
But it was impossible to say who was a main character.
The ape with the halo, presumably.
Well, he's the main character, but, like,
it was impossible to say, like, some of these characters
are only going to be there in snippets.
Yeah.
But it was also there was no, there didn't seem to be any element
of like what is the thrust of this?
Yeah.
Is it him and he's trying to get out of working at a bar or is it?
Yeah, and it also, because it felt like you mentioned like Chippendale
or I guess even Roger Rabbit where it's packed with like what you think
would be cameos but it just keeps cutting to like just even uglier
and uglier NFT art as if you're supposed
to know what any of it is, you know?
I reckon they would.
Look, we didn't see the trailer at NFTCon, the convention
for conning people with NFTs, but I imagine there would have been cheers
in the audience when like a particular NFT.
No, that was the trailer at the conference.
Oh. Did you hear any cheers? No, that was the trailer at the conference. Oh.
Did you hear any cheers?
No.
That's the thing that we watched.
Someone filmed that on a big jumbo truck.
Yeah, I didn't hear any cheers at all.
Yeah.
Wow, all right.
It was a stony, stony silence.
Wow.
But anyways, it turns out a couple of NFTs including the lead ape
from the show.
Oh, yeah, we're not even up to date.
No, we're not even up to date.
That's not news, folks.
You can skip this, by the way.
Also, just FYI, an ape with a halo,
at least there's one more halo than there was in the TV series Halo.
Very true.
Because I learned recently they didn't even get to the halo in season one.
Isn't that strange?
Because that show is set in heaven and it stars angels.
Is that correct?
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Weird choice.
Anyway, so it was stolen.
It was then flipped to a user by the name of Darkwing84 for 200K, right?
So the idea is now that this person or bot, there's a person behind it presumably, now
owns any of the commercial use and license to this character for this show that has been
in development for supposedly months, right?
Which means from a legal standpoint, if you're going by the rules of NFTs,
then Seth Green no longer owns the rights to that character
and hence cannot use it in a show.
Which is strange because if it was, say, like a Rick and Morty,
someone couldn't be like, I've stolen the rights to Rick and Morty
and now you can't make your show.
Yeah, right.
The idea behind NFTs are that it doesn't play to any of the standard rules,
so hence any of your copyright, it doesn't play to any of the standard rules, so hence any of your copyright,
it doesn't apply here.
Except Seth Green assured VCon attendees that he's working with authorities.
This was after also reaching out to Darkwing84 publicly on Twitter and asking if we could
do a deal.
Said, guys, if there's a door to kick in, I promise I'm going to kick in the door for
us.
But here's the thing.
It's been said also that since, as I mentioned,
he can't use this anymore because somebody else owns it.
But he replied on Twitter, not true since the art was stolen.
A buyer who purchased stolen art with real money and refuses to return it
is not legally entitled to the exploitation usage of the underlying IP.
But here's the thing.
Because it's gone through a couple of owners, they are.
So I guess he could.
So it's said also that his lawyers are now trying to go through
using whatever means possible to get this back.
But that also undercuts the whole purpose of NFTs,
as in they are outside of any standard laws.
Uh-huh, sure.
So I'd imagine if you're part of the NFT community
and then you can just set a legal precedent
where you can take someone to court and get something back,
doesn't that defeat the purpose of this thing that's supposed
to exist on another, like, plane of ownership?
Seth Green's betrayed them all.
I just think, like, the idea is that it's supposed
to be free of conventional rules until they get stolen
and then it's like, oh, that's mine and I'm going to take you to court for it.
And look, fair enough,
because he's clearly been tricked into buying this thing or whatever.
He seems like a nice enough guy, I guess.
And you would be upset if somebody stole the lead character to your show.
Sure.
But what is this?
What is any of this?
It's amazing, isn't it?
God.
I'm excited, though.
I'm excited to see how this plays out.
Speaking of the rights to things, here's one bit of news.
Okay.
This is from comicbookmovie.com, and I know in advance you hate this,
but here it is.
Okay.
Winnie the Pooh has been reimagined as a psychopathic killer
for a new horror movie, Blood and Honey.
I don't hate that at all because it's out of copyright,
all the stuff that's not.
I thought you did hate it.
No.
You think it looks bad?
Yeah, it does look bad.
Okay.
But I like the idea of properties going out of copyright
and then anybody can do anything with it.
Yeah.
And is this going to be good?
Probably not.
Probably not.
But it's worth somebody giving.
It's interesting somebody is taking a crack at it.
Yeah.
Winnie the Pooh and Piglet go on a blood-soaked murder rampage.
This is live action, by the way.
Yes.
After Christopher Robin decides to abandon them without food,
the director said, the director explained to Variety,
because they've had to fend for themselves so much,
they've essentially become feral, so they've gone back
to their animal roots.
They're no longer tame.
They're like a vicious bear and pig who want to go around
and try and find prey.
I mean, to be fair, I haven't actually seen anything.
I've only seen some still imagery of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But no, because nothing now ever goes out of IP.
Like Disney has ensured that everything, you know,
that the lifetime ownership of things is now extending forever,
except if it's an ape you can steal, a picture of an ape.
That's right.
No, I don't hate this at all.
It looks to me like if you look at the stills,
it does look like a pretty bog standard kind of slasher maniac
on the loose kind of thing.
Yeah, like the strangers or whatever
Exactly but they're wearing and
I was going to say but they're wearing masks so the strangers
essentially but I'm
excited yeah I'm excited for stuff
to finally go and you know there's a
limited basket of this sort of stuff
but I'm excited for it. James I'm working on
a new version
of Ernest Hemingway's The Sun Also Rises
which is called The Sun Also Rises, but then it goes down
and then there's vampires.
Wow.
Pretty good, right?
Nobody steal that.
Very good.
Nobody steal that.
I've got an ape on it.
And vampires are public domain as well.
Vampires are also public domain, yeah.
And you could have said, and Jane Austen or whatever.
Yes.
Great.
Also, I just want to quickly back to that ape thing just quickly.
As you mentioned before the show, just use any other piece of ugly as fuck art.
Just pull it out and put a different thing in.
It's fine.
Take the halo off.
But then what would it be?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
If it doesn't have the cachet of the bored ape, then what's it got, you know?
Great question.
Anyways, this news is via The Hollywood Reporter.
Now, as you may know, a couple of years back, I think it was actually 2019, J.J. Abrams' production company,
Bad Robot, signed a big deal with Warner Brothers.
Oh, big deal.
So it was to develop a number of projects,
including there was a Batman animated series,
which he was doing with Matt Reeves.
There's a show called Subject to Change.
There was a show called Denouement, which has a $200 million budget.
What's that about?
I don't know.
So the Denouement is the thing that happens after the action wraps up
in a movie.
So like at the end of the movie when somebody's like,
and after all this I'm going back to college or whatever.
Like that's the Denouement.
So there's just going to be people going back to college.
Just three hours of people going back to college maybe.
Terrific.
Yeah.
With $200 million budget.
Great.
There's a show also called You Too Scripted, Presumed Innocent.
That's a show for Apple.
There's a crime drama called Duster.
There's also a number of other DC projects including a Superman movie
that he is producing.
I'm not sure about directing.
Sure, right.
That's one that Ta-Nehisi Coates is writing.
Is that the one?
I see.
Right, right. Is that the one? I don't sure about directing. Sure, right. That's one that Ta-Nehisi Coates is writing. Is that the one? I see. Is that the one?
I don't know.
Yeah.
It's the one with the – who's the Superman with the silver suit?
They're going to get Michael B. Jordan to play him.
Valzod?
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah, maybe.
I can't remember.
Yeah.
But there also might be two Superman projects operating concurrently.
There probably are.
There's probably like different departments.
Each has one and first to the finish line gets to make theirs, I guess.
That's right.
And there was also a – he was working on Justice League Dark.
First to get their NFT back.
First to get their Superman NFT back gets to make the movie
because they both lost them in various scams.
Yeah, no doubt.
There was also a Justice League Dark franchise,
which would include it of Constantine and Madame X
and a number of other properties.
Anyway, so sources suggest
this is via THR, that there
is some frustration within the halls of
Warner Brothers. So Zaslav,
who's the guy who's taken over from Discovery,
he's basically gutting everything.
Anything that doesn't make a profit or he thinks
it's like a waste of time. Ah, Discovery.
Discovery Media, Discovery Channel. He's getting it. Because Warner Brothers
have kind of been like, let's try a bunch
of stuff. Mostly directionless. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some's great and some's like, why are you doing this? You know, so Because Warner Brothers have kind of been like mostly directionless.
Some's great and some's like, why are you doing this?
So he's trying to kind of like trim the fat.
Well, it's interesting because there's also,
I brought up some options for one bit of news this week,
and another was Leslie Jones cast as Plastic Woman
in DC's adult animated series, which is separate
because there's also another Plastic Woman movie in development.
Yeah, there's like a separate.
Is that one dead now?
Oh, the project?
I don't know.
I don't think I've heard any news about it.
Because if the Leslie Jones one is just announced,
I'd say that one is happening.
Yeah.
So just quickly, he was frustrated with the lack of delivery
from the deal signed in September of 2019.
And it also, because J.J. Abrams has met with like other
production companies,
is also I think producing the next Star Trek movie as well,
and that's Paramount.
So that's a whole other thing.
So basically they signed this.
I can't remember what it was, but it was an insane amount of money.
I remember it being, I want to say in the hundreds of millions,
but I don't know.
And it hasn't done anything yet.
We haven't seen anything.
It's been three.
And I know also there's been a pandemic and whatever.
It's like the Game of Thrones brothers.
You know the Game of Thrones brothers?
Yeah, the GOTBs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
So I don't know what that means.
I mean, I guess they'll either make him streamline it and do something
or they'll cut it, I guess, which they could do.
Because the GOT brothers, Weiss and Benioff,
have they done anything?
Because they quit Game of Thrones.
They finished off Game of Thrones real quick and then they got a very big development deal for,
I want to say Netflix.
Netflix, yeah.
But they also were going to do that, what if the Civil War,
but it was still the Civil War and slavery was still happening.
And it's cool.
And it's cool.
Yeah, I remember that, yeah.
And people are like, no, thank you.
I don't know what they're working on at the moment.
So, yeah, look, I know like a lot of people's opinion on J.J. Abrams is like mixed.
But I think he would be like to start a Superman series.
He is good at starting stuff.
I think he would be great.
Like really.
Oh, could be great, I should say.
Because people, if that happens and it's bad, people will come back and yell at me.
Like it's my fault.
But as we know, he can't end and yell at me like it's my fault.
But as we know, he can't end something without it being the finale to Felicity.
Yes, that's right.
Which is the denouement.
She goes back to college probably.
She was in the last Star Wars, wasn't she? She was in Rise of Skywalker.
Do you remember Powerless?
Remember that TV, that DC series Powerless?
Yeah, you've talked about that.
Yeah, it had –
Michael Chiklis was in it? No, it was Vanessa Hudgens. Oh, that's the workplace. Yeah, yeah, you've talked about that, I think. Yeah, it had... Michael Chiklis was in it?
No, it was Vanessa Hudgens.
Oh, that's the workplace.
Yeah, yeah, it was Vanessa Hudgens and Alan Tudyk
and they just worked at a Wayne building,
like a Wayne Industries facility.
It was originally like Batman R&D, wasn't it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But then it just ended up being like just office management stuff.
And it was just sort of like the off...
I watched like an episode and a half
and it was just sort of like office management,
like the office light.
Yeah.
And there was the occasional reference to like something about the Flash.
So they weren't even like making weird super tech or whatever.
I mean, maybe, but I didn't get that far.
It's a great question for another day.
Or maybe you in the past when you remembered what that was.
But he's gone now, that guy.
He's dead, that guy.
Good riddance, I say.
Should we do trailers of Hoymason?
Yes. This dropped
pretty early last week, but Thor Love and Thunder
got a brand new trailer.
And did it break the internet? It's been so long,
who knows? I think it broke
the internet very briefly. I think it
broke the internet for a day.
A horrible tragedy happened.
Well, that also happened. The news cycle is so
like, you know, it's so
rushed now that you can only really break
the internet for a day.
I think if you'd seen Thor's Bottom for real,
I think it would have broken the internet.
Do you think we're going to be seeing Thor's Bottom in the movie for real?
Yes.
I think so.
I like to think so.
You know who would like to see Thor's Bottom?
Who?
Rude Obi-Wan, no doubt.
I don't know about that.
You look at anyone's bottom, Mason.
You don't know the rich backstory of the character,
the motivations of Rude Obi-Wan Kenobi. Mason. You don't know the rich backstory of the character,
the motivations of rude Obi-Wan Kenobi.
I guess I don't.
You don't know what taste he has and whose bottom he'd look at. It's not about taste.
He just wants to see it.
Okay, right.
He doesn't care, Mason.
Anyways, so we've got more Jane Foster but a couple
of other big reveals, that being Gore the God Butcher,
played by Christian Bale.
Who has a different look than he does. Well, first of all, he's not just God Butcher, played by Christian Bale. Who has a different look than he does.
Well, first of all, he's not just been, it's not just Christian Bale
with a bunch of dots on his face and they've CGI'd a look over him.
Voldemort-ed him.
They've given him a proper prosthetics and make-up look,
but they haven't given him, in the comic books,
he has sort of like big Twi'lek ears.
Yeah.
Like he's got big.
He's more like a lizard-y kind of.
Sort of big beagle ears, big beagle-y tentacles.
He's got big.
He's more like a lizard-y kind of fella. Sort of big beagle-y.
Big beagle-y tentacles.
I think going with this direction gives him an opportunity to kind of,
you know, do some acting.
Oh, do some acting.
Because if they're just going to.
Doing some of that acting he's famous for.
You know, if you put him under like a Christopher Eccleston-like thing
when he was the Thor villain or you digitally alter his face in some way,
I can't imagine Christian Bale's the kind of actor that would be cool with that.
No.
Was he, I think I read somewhere this week that somebody was,
somebody famous or high profile was offered Malekith,
the dark elf, and turned it down.
It wasn't Christian Bale though, was it?
It was Cumberbatch.
There we go.
We talked about it.
Okay, great.
But no, I think he looks, I really like the look.
And I know it's different from the comic,
but I think that's awesome. I think if they did no-nos in Snoopy years, I think he looks, I really like the look. And I know it's different from the comic, but I think that's also,
I think if they did no-nos in Snoopy years, I don't know.
I don't know whether that would have worked.
Do you think he'd look a bit like Snoopy with no-nos?
Yeah, maybe.
Which is a paradox.
Is it?
Because Snoopy's all-nos.
He is all-nos, isn't he?
But for people who don't know, so Gorr is a sort of a,
he was born into a kind of a primitive tribe on an alien planet
and there's lots of suffering and his family dies
and all this sort of stuff.
And he's like, ooh, I love the gods.
Yeah, but then he's like, actually, I don't love the gods anymore.
But then there's some waterly wounded gods crash on his planet
and they're like, hey, can you help us?
He's like, you ex-squeeze me?
Are you kidding me?
Pardon me?
Are you joking me right now?
That's exactly.
And then he, like, steals at least one of their powers and he's like,
I'm going to fly into space and I'm going to find all the gods,
I'm going to kill them.
And he has a big venom sword.
He has a big venom sword, yes.
That's good.
We've also got Rustle Crow.
We saw more of him as the Greek god Zeus,
just hamming it up there, having a good time.
And then, of course, the biggest reveal.
Is the big CGI helmet that Thor is wearing in that suit.
Oh, yeah, that's not good, is it?
Isn't it meant to look ridiculous, though?
I mean, it does.
It looks ridiculous.
It is.
I agree, but it doesn't look like he's on his head.
No, it doesn't at all.
So that particular suit is comic accurate.
There is a version.
I like the rest of the suit.
Yeah, like it's dead on to like I think maybe like a 90s suit
or maybe like a late 80s suit.
But I think I'm pretty sure that helmet's supposed to look ridiculous.
I think it's one of those helmets that's going to be abandoned very quickly.
Oh, definitely.
Without a doubt.
Yeah, yeah.
But you're right.
It doesn't look like it's on his face.
And there was also some, I saw some stuff this week about.
He looks like the Shocker from the comics,
like the big star mask that he wears.
Do you mean Electro?
No, Mason, I meant the thing I said.
Okay, that's great.
I meant I'm an Electro, everybody, but I can't admit it to him.
I can't admit fault.
If he admits fault, I'll know he's weak and I can crush him.
But he hasn't admitted fault.
He's still invulnerable. One day I'll get him. One day he'll make a mistake, he'll know he's weak and I can crush him. But he hasn't admitted fault. He's still invulnerable.
One day I'll get him.
One day he'll make a mistake, he'll admit to that mistake.
But he hasn't.
God damn it.
But anyway, yeah, so apparently I've read somewhere that everybody
who uploaded that She-Hulk footage to YouTube,
they got the YouTube compression apparently ruined a lot of that CJ.
So people were like, she looks like The Sims.
We said she looked like The Sims.
Apparently the actual version that will come to Disney Plus
is going to look a bit better,
not because they're going to be working on it necessarily,
just because it's going to be less compressed.
We're going to see it in a proper.
Apparently if you watch it on Disney Plus
with full streaming capabilities, then it looks better.
I haven't done that because.
And we can't.
Yeah.
Because the internet here is bad.
It's a terrible internet.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But anyways, we also see the bod of one Christopher Hemsworth.
That's right.
My goodness.
What has he been up to?
I don't think he's bigger than.
He's big.
He's definitely bigger.
100%.
Huh.
Yeah.
Even bigger than Ragnarok.
Yeah.
He was pretty lean in Ragnarok compared to.
Right.
Previously. Yeah. Okay. I think he's pretty lean in Ragnarok compared to previously.
I think he's easily the biggest he's ever been.
I don't think I can tell at this point.
I think once a Hollywood star goes wider than a certain size,
maybe I can't tell anymore.
I think he looks sort of the same as Ragnarok.
Yeah.
And this had to be pointed out to me.
On his back he has a Loki tattoo.
Oh, does he?
I didn't see that.
He's got the Loki horns and I think maybe it has like R.I.P.
brother or R.I.P.
Loki or something like that on his back.
Okay, Chris has a Thor body.
What's that?
What would be like the faces?
Do a big perv.
Give me a big look.
Yeah, so if you look at him in, here we go.
This is just for you, Mason.
All right.
Yeah, see how he's smaller in Ragnarok. This is just for you, Mason. All right. Yeah.
See, I reckon he's smaller in Ragnarok.
Okay, so that's him in Home and Away.
Yep.
And what's the middle one is Thor 1.
That's Thor.
And what's the one on the-
That's Ragnarok.
That's Ragnarok, okay.
Yeah, I reckon he's bigger than Ragnarok.
Yeah, he probably is.
I remember him being bigger in Ragnarok.
He's rifter than he was before in Ragnarok, but he's bigger in-
Because when he takes his shirt off the first,
when I saw Ragnarok in cinemas, the audience gasped.
They went, oh, my God, everybody.
Oh, my God, they said.
What a handsome buff man, they said.
I did say that.
One guy went, that's probably not sustainable.
Everybody was like, shut up.
Shut up.
Let us enjoy this.
With your sense of wonder.
Yes, he's probably source to the gills and all of those things,
as they say in the industry.
I think he just uses the Great Centre app.
Yeah, he probably does a lot of bodyweight squats
and then he gets there.
Anyways, but also some people are just naturally better
at building muscle and all the drugs and all the food
that gets made for him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Good on him, whatever.
Then we also got a trailer for The Grey Man,
which is the Russo brothers' next film.
It reminds me of Spy vs. Spy, or the movie The Jackal.
The Mad Magazine features Spy vs. Spy.
White Spy vs. Black Spy.
That's right.
Oh, and you combine them, you get a Grey Spy.
Grey Spy.
That'll do it.
So this was originally going to be Brad Pitt,
and a different director, I think.
Yeah, okay.
But now it's Gosling and the Russo brothers,
and that's pretty good.
And Chris Evans.
Oh, yeah, with just a wonderful mustache.
That's right.
So it's an assassin has to kill an assassin or whatever,
so the two world's best assassins.
Like Ballistic, X versus Sever.
Like that movie where-
Antonio Banderas and Lucy Liu.
Isn't that one of the worst movies ever made?
Yes, I think it's a zero percenter on tomato.
It's also that one where Will Smith fights a younger Will Smith.
Gemini Man. Gemini Man.
What a movie. Remember that one? What a movie.
What a movie and what a moment in time that
was. But no, this one looks really good and of course
it is going to Netflix, I believe
first. Is that right? Yes.
So that doesn't bode well necessarily.
Unless they gave everybody
involved a lot of money. Yeah, but they do that all the time.
That's true. Not us though. the time that's true not us though
no that's true
that one time
for Iron Fist
and that other time
for Stranger Things
yeah but it wasn't like
a lot of money
the money to make a movie
no that's true
it wasn't
you're absolutely right
would you agree with that
I would agree yeah
so anyway I thought
it looked really good
I mean maybe we could
make like
some sort of
Winnie the Pooh movie
okay
I'd love that actually
and then of course
we got a trailer for
Mission Impossible
Dead Reckoning which was exactly
the same as the one that leaked.
So it turns out that all those sound effects weren't supposed to be
there anyway. It's just music playing and
various stunts happening. What did you think having
a good look at it? Before we get into that I just want to say
that Ballistic X vs. Seva remains at
0% on Rotten Tomatoes but it has a
19% audience score from 10,000
plus ratings. There you go. So not everyone hates
that movie. It's 1,900 people being like, we like this.
That's great.
Yeah, it's really good.
You see the math I just did then?
That was incredible.
Good work.
Thank you.
I'm just going to put away this whiteboard that I've been working on
for the past three days.
Mason, Mission Impossible, Dead Reckoning.
We see the return of Kittredge, of course, from Mission Impossible 1,
the voice on the other side of the Good Morning, Mr Phelps.
It turns out if you always look 50, you just stay looking that way.
Stay looking that way.
What is interesting also, and correct me if I'm wrong,
he's got the only dialogue in this trailer, right?
Yeah.
I think you might be right, yeah.
And he's just like, this is serious stuff now.
Yeah, yeah.
But there's like that, it's sort of the mirror image of that scene
from Mission Impossible 1 where they have the scene in the restaurant
and Tom Cruise blasts his way through the fish tank or whatever.
Bang!
That's right.
It's a good movie.
It is a good movie.
We did a video on it, but that is a good movie.
So I think they might have only released this because it was leaked.
I don't know.
Maybe not.
But I think also maybe.
It's a year away.
Yeah, but I reckon it's also to capitalise on Top Gun Maverick.
Oh, yeah, of course, yeah.
I should have thought about that.
The last movie Tom Cruise did was the previous Mission Impossible,
which was 2018, which is also the largest gap he's ever had
between making movies.
Really?
Yeah, because Top Gun Maverick was filmed in like 2018 or 2019.
It was filmed ages ago.
Yeah, right.
So long ago.
That's right.
Now, what incredible stunts are we seeing in Top Gun Dead Raccoon?
He goes on the train and then he drives a bike off a cliff
and he's got a parachute hopefully.
Maybe not.
You know what I thought I had?
And we'll get to this when we talk about Top Gun Maverick.
I think if Tom Cruise is going to go while filming a movie,
like if he's going to die, I think he's going to float off into space.
I think that might be how it is because he'll be like, I'm going to put this plane in a
low Earth orbit and then something's going to happen and he's just going to float off
out of orbit and just turn to ice.
Do you think anybody-
And he'll leave, but there'll always be the rumors that he's come back somehow.
Yeah.
Do you think anyone would find him one day, like an alien civilization and bring him back?
Yeah, absolutely.
He'll become their king.
So yeah, there you go.
Anyway, there'll be more Tom Cruise news.
Also, maybe he'll go out there and actually find Xenu.
Maybe he will.
But isn't that all made up?
No.
But I guess in an infinite universe, you'd eventually hit something.
You'd eventually hit Xenu, or at least a guy who's willing
to admit that he's Xenu, you know?
Willing to admit?
Okay, great.
Short break, but we're back into it.
No, that wasn't a short break.
Nobody felt anything then.
But, Mason, I apologise.
We're still talking about Mission Impossible, though?
We are, and I just wanted to quickly say I had this lined up
for the Seth Green thing before and I didn't use it,
so I have to use it.
How about no, Scott?
Okay.
That's from Austin Powers because Seth Green is in Austin Powers.
He's in Austin Powers.
That's great.
And that's me just being relevant.
I loved how relevant that was.
Have you seen the, did you see any of the Pentavarite?
Look, I'd like to say that it's something that I'd, no.
No.
I don't know if anyone has.
Isn't that wild that a man who at one point was probably considered
like the most high-profile comedic force in the world.
I wouldn't even say like one of the actors really.
Released a full, I think, a series but maybe a movie on Netflix
and nobody thought about it because that's a deep cut from something.
Yeah, it's like a previous scene or something.
It's mentioned in So I Married an Axe Murderer. is like yeah there's a there's a cabal of five men
and they control the world and blah blah blah and then like several decades later he's like i
shouldn't make a whole movie about that did you know shreks in it i did know shreks and i have
seen that clip of him and shrek fighting some bullies or something i have seen that yes yeah
look i i'd love for it to be like like, look, I haven't watched it,
so maybe it's amazing, but I would have loved to have heard
that it's really, like, great and, like, superb.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's taken it forward in new and interesting ways, but maybe it is.
You haven't heard precisely that?
I haven't heard those exact words, and so I cannot,
I simply have not watched it.
Well, look, we'll wait for our friends Alexi and Cam
to do a full recap on Mic Check.
That's right, and then you tell me what they said.
I'll tell you what they said.
Okay.
Anyways, it's Star Wars Celebration Weekend.
Oh, we're still not talking about.
Oh, fine.
What else is Mission Impossible?
They drive a funny little Mini?
They drive a.
No, it's a Fiat.
It's a Fiat.
Whatever.
It's like the Jason Bourne situation.
You know, they're in a little car.
But you can see they don't.
You don't see the full thing, but clearly they're like,
we're going to get in this Aston Martin or whatever.
But then their contact or whatever is like, I've got you a stupid little car.
Beep, beep.
And that's comedy also.
That is comedy.
Maybe Mike Myers could learn something from that.
He could.
You know?
Absolutely.
Maybe he could.
Yeah.
Anything else?
No, that's all I want to mention.
That's all I want to go.
You've derailed Star Wars Celebration.
People would have said, what do you think about the funny little face?
I like it.
It's cool.
Great.
Terrific. Meep, meep. it. It's cool. Great, terrific.
Meh, meh.
Meh.
Star Wars Celebration, Mason.
A bunch of announcements that we're going to be going through,
one of them being the Skeleton Crew, which is the John Watts series,
live action series.
John Watts, of course, from Spider-Man, director of Spider-Man.
Apparently it's for kids, but it's also, as Dave Filoni said, who runs and heads up a bunch of Star Wars stuff.
Definitely not for kids.
That's what he said.
We said as much.
We're still debating over it internally.
And John Watt says it's for kids.
And I say it's not for kids.
We're going to have full frontal nudity.
That's right.
No, he said as much for kids as the Clone Wars is.
Because there's a lot of like murder and stuff in that.
Brief update.
We've come to a consensus.
Every odd episode is going to be for kids
and every even episode is going to be not for kids.
I like that.
I like that a lot.
Yeah.
Definitely not for kids.
Star Trek rule.
But kids are not kids.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's also going to be starring, they've announced,
one cast member and it's Jude Law.
That's cool.
So there you go.
What is it?
Stranger Things but Star Wars and set five years
after Return of the Jedi.
Oh, and that in that wonderful pocket.
Yes, that's right.
That pocket of time where everything happened.
Where everything happened and everything continues to happen.
There was also footage for Ahsoka, which we didn't see,
along with The Mandalorian.
I'll just quickly talk about The Mandalorian but it's going to be.
Soup Ahsoka.
That's right.
That's great, Mason.
It is great. It's not a fully complete joke right. That's great, Mason. It is great.
It's not a fully complete joke of any kind.
No, I think it is.
But it's funny just words.
You know when words come out of your mouth.
I think that's fun.
You say a thing and everyone goes, yep, you've done it.
Yeah.
So the Mandalorian is going to.
Maybe they could put that on the menu at a Disney themed,
I was going to say Disney themed park, Disneyland.
The menu?
Yeah, like a restaurant.
But it's a water pistol.
That's why it would confuse people and they'd hate it.
Or is that the joke, is it?
Yeah, that's the joke.
That's the complete joke.
That's the complete joke.
Right.
So in this one he's still got the dark saber.
Oh, they squirt it into your mouth from a super soaker.
Fine, terrific, great.
This is a good joke that keeps going that I can't veto.
You can't veto.
James, it's not a joke.
We're just working through some stuff.
That's how this goes.
Isn't that life?
Just working through some stuff.
So it's going to be streaming in February of 2023
and it's also going to see him return to Mandalore
because remember he took his helmet off?
Yeah.
And the other Mandalorian freaks is like two left.
Get out of here.
He was like, you can't be Mandalorian unless you go back to Mandalore
and reclaim your honor.
But he's like, that exploded.
There was a big war. And they're like, can't help you, mate. Sorry back to Mandalore and reclaim your honor. But he's like, that exploded. There's a big war.
And they're like, can't help you, mate.
Sorry.
That's right.
Can't help you.
Just go there and just cover yourself in Mandalore soot.
Yeah.
If you're already taking your helmet off, just keep it off.
Yeah.
You know?
It's fine.
Yeah, but a bit of airflow, I reckon.
That's a good point, actually.
And also, you'd be like, oh, so I've got this dark saber.
I'm the king of the Mandalores.
And I say, I'll kill you.
And also, you take your helmet off whenever you want. saber. I'm a king of the Mandalores and I say. I'll kill you. I'll kill you and I'll say you take your helmet off whenever you want.
Yep, I agree.
You'd get like bed sores but on your face if you kept your helmet on all the time.
No, it's got space foam in it.
It's got a bit of space foam?
Yeah, exactly.
A bit of space Vaseline?
Yeah.
And you can take it off just when he like sits down for breakfast and stuff.
Can he?
Does he?
He does take it off.
He can take it off as long as it's not around other people.
I can't remember.
Or if you're at a machine where it has to scan anyone's face.
That's true.
Then you definitely have to do it, yeah.
It also seems like Bo-Katan, who was the owner of the Darksaber
at one point, she's not happy about that.
She's sitting on a big throne and she's like,
give me that, I reckon.
Give it to me.
Give me.
Give me that thing.
So, yeah.
A little bit later than what we initially thought,
so February of next year.
But I believe it's just finished filming.
So they'll have to just do a bunch of computer graphics.
Yeah, do some of those computer graphics.
You know what I mean?
Put some titles on it.
Cut it into separate storylines.
Figure out where to put a Mandalorian episode in a season
of The Mandalorian.
Yeah, that's right.
See if you can squeeze one in.
So that's good.
But also Ahsoka is mentioned.
That series is going to basically continue the Rebels storyline
where Ezra Bridger, who I think is played by the dude from Aladdin,
he's disappeared into the outer space with Thrawn
and they're going to go find him.
So it's a cast of rebels.
Well, not the cast, the characters from Rebels,
but they've all been recast in live action.
They're going to figure out what's going on there, Mason.
Oh, my goodness.
And I don't know how exciting that's going to be,
but I'd imagine it's going to be very exciting.
I'd also imagine it would be very exciting.
Yeah.
There's also an animated series that's coming out called Tales of the Jedi,
which is an anthology series.
It's styled like the Clone Wars animation series, Mason.
Okay, sure.
It's going to start off with six shorts, about 15 minutes each,
and this first series is going to focus on, I think,
three of the episodes are on Dooku and three are on Ahsoka as she's young,
where she's born and how she got to the Jedi Temple.
Okay, sure, sure, sure.
And it's going to be Dooku with young Qui-Gon because he's his master guy.
Ah, yeah, okay.
And then I think Liam.
I'm your master guy.
Never forget that.
Is there a name for that?
Hello.
I don't know.
I haven't read the manual, to be honest.
Your first assignment is to read the manual.
Tell me what you have to refer to me as.
But Liam Neeson is going to return as Qui-Gon,
but it's also going to have Liam Neeson's son is going to voice
young Qui-Gon, apparently.
That's fun too.
It is fun.
So I like the little Star Wars vignette stuff.
So I've always been a fan of that kind of stuff.
So that's cool to tell little stories because if you don't like one, you're just like, next, whatever.
You know?
I know.
You know?
I know.
I know.
Taika Waititi's Star Wars movie.
That's going to be the next movie from Star Wars coming.
There it is.
So do you remember?
So that's going to be late 2023.
Not a lot of movie news.
Well, no.
There wasn't really.
Patty Jenkins, her one, you know, she's working on the Rogue Squadron movie.
Oh, yep.
That seemed like it was going to be the next thing.
Yes.
But we've heard some troubles behind the scenes.
Apparently she's still on it for now.
And so that's coming sometime later than 2023.
And also, remember she said she's going to make the best fighter pilot movie ever.
She did say that, yeah.
That might be slightly more difficult now, I'd imagine.
Don't you think?
For Star Wars.
She could just add it.
Yeah, you could say for Star Wars.
She could say, I always said for Star Wars under my breath.
So there you go.
Let's do some quick non-Star Wars news.
Okay.
There's a picture of Indiana Jones.
I didn't see it.
Does he look largely like Indiana Jones?
I'll find it on my telephone.
Okay.
Ring, ring.
I'm excited to see if there's any.
Who's calling?
Is it Harrison Ford?
Yeah.
And what's he want?
I don't know.
Give me my plane.
Give me a plane.
I want to crush it.
I've got to do the Google search and I'm like, yes,
the latest Indiana Jones images, please.
I just want to know if there's been any significant jacket updates,
for example.
It doesn't seem to be.
I'm just going to open this up for you and you can tell me what's going on there.
Anyway, this is the image.
Feel free to pinch and zoom your own balls.
I'm not going to do that.
It's all about decorum.
Okay.
He seems to be wearing the classic Alden Indy boot.
Yep.
He's got a backpack on.
That's good.
Keep all his muesli.
Not his satchel?
Yeah, it could be a satchel. He might have a satchel and a backpack. Can you keep a muesli bar and a satchel? I think so. Okay's good. Keep all his muesli bar. Not his satchel? Yeah, it could be a satchel. He might have a satchel
and a backpack. Can you keep a muesli bar
and a satchel? I think so. Okay, good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got a little lamp.
That's good. Classic
Indiana Jones hat. Yep. Hair a little
bit longer than normal.
Turned into some sort of hippie, it seems.
Well, it might be the
60s or 70s.
I don't know. How old is he now?
He's probably smoking some of that reefer.
No doubt.
Anyways, does it look exactly like Indiana Jones always looks?
Yes, it does.
Yeah, so there you go.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to that.
And remember, James Mangold is directing it,
who did Logan and other things.
There you go.
If anybody's going to veer the crashing plane away from the ground from that last one.
It's Mangold, I think.
You're not wrong.
And just in some other non-Star Wars news.
Whoa.
We've got a trailer for Willow.
That's true, we did.
I've seen Willow, but like probably in the 80s.
I've never seen Willow.
I've barely remembered it.
Yeah.
Is the Labyrinth the David Bowie one? Yes. I have seen that. I saw it much later though. Okay. People like Willow. I've barely remembered it. Yeah. So this. Is the Labyrinth the David Bowie one?
Yes.
I have seen that.
I saw it much later though.
Okay.
People like Willow.
It didn't do well.
Yeah.
It was directed by Ron Howard.
I think he's coming back to work on this new one as well.
Someone else working on it, I want to say.
There'd be at least.
The man who plays Willow?
Yes.
Yes, he's on it also.
Warwick Davis.
If in fact Warwick Davis' character is called Willow.
Yes, he's called John Willow.
Does Willow have that magical staff in the original Willow?
Yeah, I think so.
He's got a magic stick or something with a gem in it.
I don't know what's happening with that.
But yeah, also Val Kilmer was in the original one,
if you remember, among others.
But it was a big flop at the time.
And I guess this is kind of in the spirit of like Dark Crystal,
which I think also didn't make a hell of a lot of money at the time.
Yeah, but it's sort of, you know, they've achieved that cult classic status.
A lot of people, the people who did see it on VHS or whatever, you know, have fond memories.
Yeah, yeah.
Maybe the Dark Crystal was an amazing big hit.
I don't know.
The Netflix one?
No, the other.
No, the Netflix one wasn't.
But apparently it was very good.
People loved it.
There was another trailer also, which I'm very excited for.
We knew this was coming for, it wasn wasn't gameplay but we got some cut.
Or maybe it was using in-game footage.
No, it definitely said not gameplay, not actual gameplay.
Okay.
We're talking about Star Wars Jedi Survivor.
That's right.
That's the sequel to Jedi Outcast.
No.
No.
Fallen Order.
Oh, yeah.
No, Mason.
He's made a mistake and he admitted this and now i feel very powerful um so yeah this
is going to take place apparently five years after the next one oh five years yeah another
isn't that perfect time period yeah right after the return of the jedi terrific uh no so it's
going to be coming to presumably pc but also current gen consoles in 2023 which if if there's
nothing like that will be the thing for me that means I'll get a PlayStation 5.
Right.
Because I really like that last one.
You'll attempt to get a PlayStation 5.
I will attempt to get a PlayStation 5.
Yeah.
But I guess the thing about that is as well,
if they put in fast travel back to the ship, amazing.
That'll be a perfect game.
Oh, incredible.
Yes, please, yes.
And, I mean, look, you know,
because Fallen Order was sort of based quite significantly, I think, around the game mechanics
of the Dark Souls games.
Yes.
Which are notoriously quite, you know, they have a learning curve.
You've got to do a lot of rolling.
Yeah, and the idea of, like, making things easy for people is, you know,
anathema to the whole thing.
Yeah.
But Elden Ring has come out and it's way more user-friendly.
So maybe they'll take some ideas from that and put them in this.
So fast travel.
I'm afraid of playing Elden Ring.
I'll hate it and I'll be like, oh, I don't get video games anymore.
I'll play so much of it.
This is lit.
Yeah, I'll never see anyone ever again.
So I'm just going to avoid it, I think.
This is bussing, you'll say.
I'll say that.
Are you going to get Elden Ring?
Can I get it on PS4?
No.
Then I'll wait a while. You can't get it on PS4. Okay, right. Yeah. It's goddamn Mosquito I? Yeah, you'll say that. Are you going to get Elden Ring? Can I get it on PS4? No. Then I'll wait a while.
You can't get it on PS4.
Okay, right.
Yeah.
It's goddamn Mosquito Mason.
Yeah, yeah.
I think you got it.
I got it that time.
Nice.
So plot-wise, this trailer, the biggest reveal seems to be at the end,
Cal Kestis.
Yes.
By your mate, Cameron Monaghan.
Yes, that's right.
We're best friends.
He uncovers some sort of back-to-tank a la whatever you store a Luke Skywalker
or a Darth Vader in, and it's in some sort of ruins,
and there's somebody in it.
Who is that?
Is it somebody?
So it's not somebody we chopped all their limbs off in the previous game.
No, it could be.
There was a guy from the previous game who kind of looks like that
with, like, white hair you defeat, but he got eaten by a floor or something.
Some people speculated, and I imagine there's a rights management issue
that prevents this, that it might be a clone of Starkiller.
Like we get a Starkiller from Force Unleashed.
I mean, they own Starkiller, but it could be.
It could be a new version of Starkiller.
Yeah.
I don't think it is, but it very well could be.
The other thing it could be, and other people...
James, I would stand up and cheer in front of my PlayStation 5.
It'll have to be.
No, 4, because I won't.
You'll be watching a trailer on your PlayStation 4.
That's right, exactly.
Through the terrible YouTube app that they have.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Yeah, I've decided to do things in such a more difficult way.
And other people have said...
Oh, other people?
Sorry, yeah, that it could be Jorah Sideboth.
Do you know who that is? No. Okay, so in the... Do you be Jorah Sideboth. Do you know who that is?
No.
Do you mean Jorah Sidebottom?
Yes, I did mean that.
Okay.
So he was the guy that Luke meets, the Jedi Luke meets in the Thrawn trilogy.
Okay.
And he's from the Clone Wars, but he's a clone.
Okay.
So he's not an original Jedi and he's like broken.
He's a bad dude.
And he's holding a big crystal, I think like broken. He's a bad dude.
And he's holding a big crystal, I think, on the cover or a big sword.
Do you remember the guy?
A crystal or a sword.
He's got a long flowing beard.
He looks like a wizard.
Oh, and he's got lasers coming out of his hands. Yeah, that's the one.
He's shooting lightning.
Yeah, I remember that guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it could be a reinterpretation of that.
Pew, pew, pew.
He looks like he's missing limbs in the tank though, right?
No, I think, well, it seems to me like they've diluted,
because when it pans out, that particular scene,
I was expecting, oh, maybe, is this Vader again?
Oh, okay.
But he's grown his hair back?
Yeah, I was expecting some like robot limbs or something,
but then I think they, I think it's too foggy in the tank
for you to see what's going on there.
So they do have like long stasis in the Star Wars universe.
I think there's a clone trooper that goes into stasis
and comes out around the time of like the sequel trilogy.
Okay.
But it could be a guy who went in just before like Order 66
and they forgot about him.
Sure, yeah.
But I think he's from further back than that,
from the ruins in the temple and whatnot.
Do you think he's from one year after Return of the Jedi?
Yeah, he might be from one year after.
Is that distant past that he's one year after Return of the Jedi? The, he might be from one year after. It's that distant past that is one year after Return of the Jedi.
The perfect for him to come out four years after.
So, no, I mean, just from what we've seen,
I mean, I don't really like non-gameplay trailers,
but I liked all of that.
What are any other revelations in that trailer?
I can't really.
I don't know, to be honest.
Just glimpses and bits.
You see the ship crashed.
It's kind of on its side at one point.
It's kind of wrecked, that ship that you're in and about in.
Yeah.
There's a guy who looks like one of the Inquisitors.
You know, he's got the lines on his head.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But apparently it's not that Inquisitor guy.
It's like a different guy.
He's like an Imperial dude.
Cool.
So, yeah.
And that is cool.
That is cool, yeah.
Yeah.
And that's all the information we have about that.
And there was one more trailer, Mason, for Andor,
which is apparently going to be just two seasons, 12 episodes in each.
Oh, a mere 24 episodes.
That's right.
It's going to be set five years after Return of the Jedi.
Love it.
Despite him being dead by then.
That's right.
But it's the perfect time period when you think about it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's going to be, the first one is going to be set five years
before Rogue One, the first series.
And then the next series is apparently going to take place.
Oh, that's going to take place over a year,
and then the remaining years are going to be filled in in the time up to Rogue One,
and it's just going to be two seasons, and that's it.
But the difference between this one and a lot of the other ones
they've been doing at the moment is it seems like they didn't act
a lot of actual location stuff.
As opposed to the volume.
Yeah, because the volume's been taking a lot of heat lately.
I don't know if you've seen that.
Very much I have seen that, yeah.
I mean, maybe we'll talk about it later when we talk about something coming up.
Maybe we will, yeah.
I think, yeah, there's definitely times, and I think we saw it in the book of Boba Fett,
where it does feel a little bit stale, you know?
Yeah, but I also think a great deal of that has probably been down to you just can't do
a location shoot currently for a variety of reasons.
And I also think that if you didn't know they did it that way,
you probably wouldn't be able to figure it out.
I mean, I watched the entire first season of Mandalorian.
I had no idea.
But now that you kind of know it's there.
He admitted it, folks.
He admitted he didn't notice a thing.
I've got him.
No, no, I was admitting it to the people.
Sorry, who are you talking to?
I'm talking to you now.
Oh, no, I was admitting it to the people who listened to this and not you. I'm talking to you now. Oh, no.
You know, but now you can kind of, in some scenes,
you can see like they've just stacked up some crates
and then the volumes there.
But then there's other moments where they use it, you know,
where they're inside Boba Fett's ship and the whole thing is like.
Yeah.
Like they've still used it in really interesting ways.
But I think there's probably also a time crunch in a lot of this stuff.
Yeah. And they're doing like a lot of this stuff. Yeah.
And they're doing like eight shows at the moment.
Yeah.
But the, and I guess the, so the advantage of the volume is that it is much more expressive
and it's easier to act against than green screen.
Yep.
But the disadvantage from a time front is that you have to pre-render all the backgrounds.
Got to get it all.
Whereas if you film on a green screen, you can just have people go,
oh, my God, look at that, and then you can fill in what it is later.
Is that a dragon?
Decide what it is, yeah.
Is that a dragon?
Yeah, it's a freaking dragon.
I'm terrified.
It's a freaking dragon, bro.
Let's get out of here.
I love that scene in Star Wars.
I was thinking about Shrek.
Yeah, good stuff.
The other thing is Tony Gilroy is working on this,
who you might know as the guy who came in and basically took over Rogue One.
So Gareth Edwards is not back, who technically directed that movie.
And we saw a bunch of people in that.
It seems like there's a few, there's like a white imperial room
that looks a bit like THX 1138.
It's got that kind of 1970s future sci-fi.
Is that not, and that's an Imperial facility of some sort.
I believe so.
Have we not seen that before?
Because it certainly has.
It's got, I mean, it harkens back no doubt, Mason.
Yeah, it looks like a real five years after Return of the Jedi kind of vibe.
Yeah.
But, yeah, I mean, it certainly has that kind of, you know,
very clean Imperial look.
But I just, yeah, I don't recall ever seeing a big white room.
More grey. More grey than anything
else, yeah. But I did enjoy, I enjoyed that they,
the imperial officers have matching
like imperial keep cups.
That was good. That's fun, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What are they drinking in there? I think they call it caff.
Like, give me some caff, they say. Yes, yes.
Yeah, that's right. And a hot, or a hot chocolate.
Because that existed in Star Wars Universe.
But if you don't have a caff, I'll have a te.
That's a tea. Terrific. I'd love a calf, but if you don't have a calf, I'll have a t. That's a T.
Terrific.
It's always fascinating what words they will decide the Star Wars universe will just be English words and stuff they have to invent.
Like see you in hell.
See you in hell, for example.
Or Carrie, Carrie Fisher.
Carrie Fisher.
There was.
Or like they'll say like laser.
Yeah.
But they'll go, I'll have a glass of caff, please.
You could just say coffee, I think.
I think they say blaster.
Oh, no, Death Star laser?
Yeah.
It's also, there was a, for the Thrawn trilogy, there was...
Can I have some international roast, please?
Can I have a cup of Tatooine international roast?
I want a Pods coffee from a pods machine oh
there was um that's pod coffee there was a there was a controversy when the thrawn trilogy came
out because luke has a hot chocolate in it do you remember i do remember that i don't remember
the controversy but i i've known since then there's been controversy i think it's chocolate
is still canon in the star wars universe so but's good. But, you know, there's a fucking Iguana in Empire Strikes Back, you know.
There's just some Earth stuff there, you know.
Anyway.
Okay, just hear me out, James.
Mug, Imperial logo, and it says,
don't talk to me until I've had my calf.
What do you think about that?
It probably exists.
Better exist.
Yeah.
It's on Redbubble.
But if Darth Vader sees you with it, he'll execute you.
Because of his mug?
Yeah.
Great.
He took his mug.
Do you reckon he could drink up hot coffee?
I don't think he could.
No, you'd have to pour it into one of his chest vents.
So he'd lie flat.
Yep.
That's right.
On the staff bench.
Slightly head slightly down because there's no motive power to get it.
If it was flat, he'd have to get it it can't if it was flat
he'd have to wait
for it to drizzle in
so
he has to do
like he's doing
a beer bong
or something like that
pour it into his chest
yeah
yeah
could somebody
please wipe down
this bench
after I'm done
with my morning
cough
but don't talk
to me before
I've poured my
morning cough
into one of my chest cavities but don't talk to me after my morning calf. But don't talk to me before I've poured my morning calf into one of my chest cavities.
But don't talk to me after my morning calf either.
We also
see... Just don't.
Clone Wars flashbacks.
We see those clone trooper drop ships.
Because he's a separatist, or he's
from a separatist planet. There's heroes
on both sides, Mason. That's very true.
They will ride eventually.
I like their little green outfits.
I think that was nice.
You don't see a nice little green outfit.
You don't, do you?
And we also see the Senate very briefly.
Yeah, right.
So I guess they fixed all that stuff that fell down in there.
God.
You'd go into that room and be like,
you remember when Yoda and the Emperor had a big fight?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You'd be like, what the fuck happened here?
What did you do, Yoda?
He was gone at that point.
Maybe that's why he left.
He's like, shit, I've got to go.
I'm not paying for this.
I'm not paying for any of this.
Just see if they'll find me.
They won't find me.
I'm never coming back.
Yoda's leaving.
One of the clone troopers is like, Yoda, you're leaving
because you're in fear of the power of the dark side of the force?
Yeah, man.
That's why I'm leaving.
Would you not go into that room for like 20 minutes?
So, yeah, it looks really good, I think.
Yeah, it does.
Yeah.
I wasn't really not looking forward to it, but getting a glimpse of it made really good, I think. Yeah, it does. Yeah, I wasn't really, wasn't not looking forward to it,
but getting a glimpse of it made me go, oh.
It was also in the era of Star Wars where there's no aliens.
Whereas, like, you know in the original Star Wars.
Yeah, it's just British men.
Yeah, there's like a bar full of aliens.
But everything else is just like British men, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Just being like, hmm, this is serious.
Just sweating in the desert sun.
Well, not in the Death Star, you know.
Yeah.
Just bros hanging out, British bros.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's Star Wars Celebration 2022.
Hunk, hunk, hunk.
Again, there was more things that they showed which haven't been
released online as of yet.
But, Mason, if you had to pick one Star Wars thing to put
in the bin forever, would it be Luke having a hot chocolate?
No.
No, you like that?
No, I think that's great.
Okay.
I think there should be a whole, you know,
spin-off comic book series about him acquiring his hot chocolate.
Okay.
Well, what would be one thing that you would be,
what's the most excited thing you're for?
I haven't had a good Star Wars game in a while.
Oh, yeah, that's true actually, yeah.
Which would I throw out everything else for it?
I might actually. Like that, that. What's Ta, actually, yeah. Which would I throw out everything else for it? I might, actually.
Like that, that, what's Taika Waititi up to?
What's it called again?
Fallen Order, the first one.
That had a real sense of scale to it, like just incredible.
You know, even just like that opening sequence where you're on the mining rig
or whatever it is, and it's just incredible, like, sense of this universe.
Like just.
I mean, you climb the AT in the swamp or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like there's some, like it's, and just like those,
the idea of like you're in this universe where there's a gantry
and there's a million foot drop because you're on the top
of a Star Destroyer or whatever and it's like, oh, I have to do this
like in the movies.
Okay.
Like in a movie.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, the game looks really good.
Yeah.
But, you know, like what's Taika Waititi doing?
What is he doing?
What are you up to?
Also, did you know that Thor was mostly shot on the volume?
Ah.
That's fun.
That is fun.
All right, Mason, let's move it along.
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Top Gun Maverick has thundered into cinemas, Mason,
much like the movie Thundercats, which is not out yet.
Adam Wingard is making a Thundercats live-action movie.
But what you're saying is that when that movie is finally released,
the fervor will be similar to the release of Top Gun Maverick.
Fervor, that's good. Good word, right?
The fervor may be for you because you'll be so
attracted to everybody in that.
No, I don't think so.
It's interesting that you think that.
But listen, Top Gun Maverick...
You're the one who brought it up. You're the one for whom
Thundercats is top of mind.
That's interesting. No, no, I just wanted to make you happy by bringing up a thing
that you're looking forward to.
Wow.
Anyway, it's got a $152 million budget, this Top Gun Maverick.
Did you know?
I did not know that.
That's quite low.
And they think it's, is it?
I guess it is.
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, because it's not $200 million, which is the standard.
Yeah, which is the standard now, yeah.
I guess they don't have to pay.
Me.
Yeah, they don't have to pay you, certainly Yeah, they don't have to pay you certainly,
but they don't have to pay a Downey and an Evans and a Hemsworth
and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
They pay Miles Teller, Jennifer Connelly and Tom Cruise
and nobody else.
That's right.
Everybody else is doing it for the exposure.
Yeah.
But they reckon it's going to top $150 million in the US
on a four-day opening weekend.
The record was held by one of the previous Pirate movies,
maybe the second one, I don't know.
But they reckon it might beat the $153 million that that made
and it's going to make about $110 million internationally.
It's huge.
It's a very, very big and successful movie already
and will probably continue to be so.
People are responding very well to it.
Yeah, but they can't respond to something without understanding
what the story was.
Oh, no, James.
And that's what you're here to tell us about.
Well, Tom Cruise, he plays Pete.
I don't like how they're calling Pete.
Everyone's calling him Pete.
Well, he plays Pete and Pete's a great Top Gun pilot, or he was.
More.
Yeah, but now he's getting a bit long in the tooth.
He's still good.
He's still the best.
He's getting long in his big centre tooth that he has.
That's right.
Look at Tom Cruise's smile.
One of his teeth is in the middle of his head.
Everybody look at it.
That's right.
But he should be the king of the Navy at this point.
But he's not the king of the Navy.
He should be the cock of the block.
He should be the cock of the block.
But he's just some bit of dirt.
He's just a grub in the dirt still.
Why is that?
No, he's doing speed tests.
He's doing speed tests, internet speed tests.
Yeah.
No, plane tests, Mason.
He's doing plane tests.
Let's be serious for once.
That's all right.
This is about our boys in the Navy.
I am, but I'm always serious.
Okay, you're right.
You wait till I get a bit goofy.
When I get loosey-goosey, there's going to be trouble.
Please continue.
But then they've got to bring him back to Top Gun.
But why?
For Top Gun-related reasons.
Because they have to get him to do the Death Star mission.
They've got to do the trench run mission from the original Star Wars movie.
That's right.
But with actual planes as opposed to TIE fighters and such.
Exactly right, yes.
And X-Wings.
And he's got to teach the next generation.
And he's got to pass the torch to the next generation of Top Gun
and also back to himself.
That's true.
Because the franchise wouldn't exist without Tom Cruise, I think.
It's the Obama giving himself a medal name, you know.
Yeah, it absolutely is.
It's that situation.
But he's got to bring in this new crew, all these hot shots.
Yeah.
In a way, this is hot shots part dure. Yeah. In a way, this is Hot Shots Part Deer.
It is in a way, isn't it?
Do you think this could open the door to another Hot Shots movie?
Because I think it very well could.
Yeah, maybe.
I mean, Charlie Sheen, he's done terrible things and he's not well.
So maybe not with him.
Maybe he could put whatever that character's name, Topper Harley.
Maybe Topper Harley could pass to the kid from Two and a Half Men.
There we go.
He could be his protege.
Fantastic.
But anyway, there's a new crew of hotshots and they're all,
what's this old stupid dumb loser?
What's he going to?
We hate this guy.
This guy sucks.
What's he going to teach us except how to be a big loser?
Isn't that right, Gramps?
He's like, actually, check out the jacket I have and a motorbike.
Whoa!
Where did he get that?
Yeah.
And then he's got to deal with the demons of his past and he's got to.
The goose of his past.
He's got to deal with the goose of his past.
He's got to reconnect with the long lost love.
Yes, but not the.
Not the one from the previous movie, a different one.
Though she is mentioned, this one is mentioned in the previous movie
and we can talk about it.
Anyway, what did you think of it?
I liked it.
I had a lot of fun with it.
I liked it a lot, yeah.
This is a big-time Hollywood movie.
We're saying this as people who haven't – I've seen the original a couple of times,
I think, but maybe not – the only time I've seen it all in the one go,
I think, was quite recently when we did a commentary about it.
But it's one of those – it's a movie where even if you haven't seen it,
like the tropes of it have kind of seeped into your consciousness
over a period of time.
And I, look, I was never really a big fan of them watching it again
at the end of it.
And even though you're not really watching it because you're talking
in a movie while you're watching it, in the end of the commentary
I talk about, I'm like, is this good?
Like I don't, like I can see why people like it,
but I don't know whether I like any of this.
So going into this movie, I was like, I don't know if this is for me.
It's just not really my kind of thing.
But you know what?
It's really great.
It's good.
It's pretty entertaining.
It is.
It is very entertaining.
With a few caveats.
I think so.
It's certainly.
I think it's better than the first one.
It's definitely better than the first one.
And it's, you know, the aerial action is spectacular.
It's got a good human drama to it.
Yes.
It is not unpredictable.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
But I think, you know, that is part and parcel of doing this sort of legacy.
It never felt like, okay, here we go.
They're going to do the thing and whatever.
Like even though you know what's happening, it never felt like this is a real drag.
Yeah.
You should call this Top Gun, I'm having a boring time.
It didn't feel like that for me.
And I think one of the strengths of this as opposed to the first one,
two things, even though I know they did a lot of fighter pilot stuff,
re-watching it recently, there's a lot of very quick cuts in action
between like, and like the model work coupled with the actual flying that they did
and like the in-cockpit stuff that they filmed in front
of various screens and also real flying.
All that is good, but it's very jumpy and it's kind of harder
to get a handle on where everybody is and what's happening.
And that's also because we watched them.
We're talking at it, no doubt.
But this, the action is so clean and clear and obviously done for real.
I think pretty much all of it.
I mean, if it's not all done for real, you can't tell.
You definitely can't tell.
If anything was done on a volume or a soundstage, you can't tell.
But on top of that, this one, unlike the first one,
has a through line of what they're supposed to be doing.
Whereas in the original one.
They just graduate. They graduate. I mean, Goose dies and he's like, I'm sad, I don't doing. Whereas in the original one. They just graduate.
They graduate.
I mean, Goose dies and he's like, I'm sad, I don't know.
And then he comes back.
And then in the last ten minutes they're like,
we think there's some Russians or whatever.
And then they have a dogfight.
Yes.
But it's kind of unconnected to everything else which is going on.
Whereas in this, it's building up to this really tense
and impossible mission.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which really helps.
Yeah.
And you can really, you can feel the Gs, man, you know?
Certainly can feel the Gs.
Do you want to talk a little bit about how they made this, Mason?
Yes.
Because I looked into this.
As mentioned.
There were some cameras involved.
Interesting.
Make-up.
Make-up.
Food.
Like they need food on set.
Camaraderie.
Definitely.
Did you feel that?
Camembert.
Cheese.
No.
What?
Not for all the abs, Mason.
No, that's very true. God, I hope they treated themselves to some Camembert. Cheese? What? Not for all the abs, Mason. No, that's very true.
God, I hope they treated themselves to some camembert after this.
Oh, maybe I'll get some camembert after this.
They had to reshoot the-
I'll never be in a bloody Top Gun.
I'll never play double football on the beach.
Oh, yeah, double football.
Twice football, I think they call it.
Speaking of twice football.
Oh, like a double creme brie.
Yes, I think so.
Let's talk about the shirt twice football. Oh, like a double crème brie. Yes, I think so. Let's talk about the shirtless football.
So as a homage to the volleyball scene, they do it on the beach.
They don't do it.
They play double football, twice football.
They're basically doing it on the beach.
So Glenn Powell, who's in this, he's the guy.
He's hangman in this.
Oh, yeah.
So in this we have, of course, Tom Cruise.
Yes.
And we have Rooster, played by Miles Teller,
who is sort of the – he isn't sort of.
He is the son of Goose from the original movie.
Yep.
And as is tradition for a Top Gun movie now, he needs a rival.
He needs a smarmy rival.
So we've got Glenn Powell in that role as the Iceman kind of character.
Absolutely.
So he's great, I think.
I agree.
I think they're both very good.
And the initial appearance of these characters, I feel,
could not be more clichéd.
Like they all roll up into a bar and they're like,
what's this jerk doing here?
Look at all our personalities kind of thing.
I've got glasses.
Yeah, and then one of them's like, oh, no, here comes Rooster.
He's got the most personality of them all,
as evidenced by his Hawaiian shirt.
And mustache.
And he's got sunglasses on inside.
And I'm like, oh, here we go.
But you settle into that and it's –
Because you can tell them apart.
Yeah, it's delightful.
But you get – yeah, he's good.
And I think the supporting cast who get significantly less airtime –
Airtime?
Oh, nice.
Yes.
The rest of the Top Gun recruits, you know, they're there,
but they're, you know.
They do a pretty good job. They do a pretty good job.
Of what they are given.
Yeah, and I think they all have sort of a good interplay.
Yeah.
We've got the, you know.
You understand the history they've had together
and what they think of each other because they say it to each other
quite often.
But I think Glenn Powell is a good smarmy guy.
You know what he is?
He's what Scott Eastwood was supposed to be.
I see.
That's a mean thing to say about Scott Eastwood.
So the son of Clint Eastwood.
Yes, he was supposed to be the son.
Glenn Powell is now the son of Clint Eastwood.
Clint Eastwood hand-typed a letter out and he's like,
Glenn Powell is my son now.
I don't hate Scott Eastwood at all.
But what have you seen him in recently?
Fast and Furious four years ago or whatever.
No, he didn't see him in that.
You're right.
Anyway, he said, we shot at the football scene,
and that night we all went out for milkshakes and tater tots,
just like splurging.
Everybody grabbed a beer.
And a week later, Tom was like, we've got to shoot it again.
It wasn't good enough.
We're going to shoot it again.
And then everybody was back at the gym again day and night.
There's some ripped bods in this.
Including Tom Cruise's. He's looking incredible for 90 years old. 150 and night. There's some ripped bods in this. Including Tom Cruise's.
He's looking incredible for 90 years old, however old he is.
He's looking great.
I didn't think that.
I thought they honestly.
You didn't think he'd go shirtless?
But then I'm like, of course he would go shirtless because he's.
Yeah, he has to.
He's at least some of the most of the recent movies he's done are just an excuse for him to like clown on younger like stars.
Like in the making of it also within the movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But like it's sort of and we do have, you know,
obviously in Mission Impossible Fallout it's him versus Henry Cavill
who's just a mountain of a man and he's clowning on that guy.
In this, of course, it is the evil Dean.
Yes.
This movie is played by john ham uh cyclone
yeah we learned his call sign is cyclone at the end that old fuddy duddy john ham and look there
is i don't think this is a spoiler to say like we get to the end of the movie and you know as
oftentimes in this sort of thing you know some looks are exchanged and you know some salutes
and what have you and there's a moment where i like, they should really just dump a wheelbarrow full of manure
on top of Jon Hamm because that's what the funny-dutty Dean gets.
That's true.
God, that button-down nerd Jon Hamm,
thinking he knows what's best for the Top Gun Academy.
Anyways, the flying.
So, yeah, apparently it was all real aircraft and no CGI.
The actors playing pilots, none of them had to film themselves.
What, just on their phones?
Well, they had to go up in a fighter jet.
Nobody flew, including Tom Cruise, a fighter jet because you're not allowed
to unless you're in the Navy, which, you know,
wouldn't surprise me if Tom Cruise ended up doing that.
Because all these planes are two-seaters.
Yes.
So did they do that?
Did they have the person in the other seat fly and then they CGI'd them out?
Yes.
I guess.
Or, you know, they managed to put in like IMAX camera rigs
that you could fit into a cockpit.
Okay.
And it's just the actual pilot is not seen.
No, that's right.
But they're all in the air.
They're all in the air.
Like every time they're acting like, oh, we're going to pull up or whatever,
they're actually in the pilot seat.
Okay, interesting.
So they had to also turn their own cameras on and off.
Okay.
They weren't being fed any lines or anything while they were up there.
They were just on their own with the pilot.
They'd have to adjust their own makeup and all their own gear
so they looked like camera ready.
Wow, that's really interesting.
Yeah.
And it's sort of like that's an interesting test of.
It would take an hour to get anything back as well.
So you might go up there and you come back down and they're like you left a lens cap on well miles teller apparently
like recorded over some of his footage as well so yeah he did that that shouldn't have been an
option for those guys they shouldn't have given their equipment that capability it was you're
probably right you recorded an episode of america's funniest time videos on top of your footage miles
what were you doing mate so what they did the director had to wait on the ground for hours sometimes
for the actors to come back with the footage,
and adjustments would be made after viewing the footage,
and the actors would then have to go back up for another take.
There's a moment where they have to do kind of a spin barrel roll
over a mountain at one point.
Yeah, right.
And you see it, Miles Teller in that hits the roof of the cockpit
when it happens.
Okay.
Because he wasn't strapped in.
He wasn't strapped in properly, and he's like, oh, they can't use that,
but they put it in.
They're like, no, that's the best take.
Yeah, right, wow.
And you really see they're trying to say lines as their faces are melting.
Yeah, right.
The G-forces.
G-forces and the whole thing.
And it really adds to it.
Yeah, that's really interesting.
And there would be a certain tension because, like, obviously,
but, you know, there there is you know in a lot
of the time when people are filming films there's that moment of like okay we've got two hours of
daylight yeah you have to what have you imagine like you're up there filming you don't know what's
working you don't know if you did a line correctly you the guy you know you they're running out of
daylight you got more people in planes down on the ground your pilots like we're running out of fuel
so yeah if you want to actually eject we might have to eject from this well speaking of it cost Running out of daylight, you've got more people in planes down on the ground. Your pilot's like, we're running out of fuel.
So if you want to actually eject, we might have to eject from this.
Well, speaking of, it costs per hour to use one of the fighter jets $11,374.
So, yeah, every time you went up, it's costing you money.
But I guess they still managed to do it on a relatively modest budget for what this is.
That's true.
But I guess everything outside of the flying,
it's not super complicated really, is it?
No, there's no car chases.
There's no single-shot fight scenes or anything like that.
No, nothing like that.
Yeah, exactly.
They don't have to street fight a gang or something.
There's a bit where they'll have to land on an aircraft carrier
or there's a bit where he buzzes the tower kind of again and stuff like that.
But, yeah, also he's short.
Do you notice in this that they're just like he's short now?
Yeah, that's interesting, right?
Well, it's because he's short in the first one as well.
That's true, yeah.
Yeah.
But I didn't mind that at all.
That's interesting because they've sort of gone, okay,
well, before he was the biggest star in the world,
we're just going to have him be short.
But then as his career has sort of gone up into the stratosphere,
so have the lifts in his shoes.
And everybody around him has gotten smaller.
Yeah, yeah.
But now they're like, well, it'll be a continuity issue if he was tall
all of a sudden.
And he's old, so he'll have to be even shorter.
We busted you out of the Navy, Pete,
because you got that weird leg lengthening surgery
and you couldn't fly the planes anymore.
Couldn't fit in the cockpit.
Yeah.
Your feet would stick out the bottom.
Apparently a lot of pilots are quite short, a lot of Navy pilots.
Yeah, it's like F1 drivers.
Yeah, I guess so.
Yeah, you have to be like a tiny little person.
Yeah.
So, yeah, they have to blow up like a uranium base.
Enrichment facility, yeah.
Yes.
Who are the bad guys?
We'll talk about it in spoilers, I guess.
But only the US of A can have uranium.
Nobody else is going to have any goddamn uranium.
Oh, that's Uncle Sam's uranium.
Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum.
He's there in his top hat, just chomping on that uranium,
on that uranium cake.
Another thing that surprised me about this is he's actually,
he's kissing women in movies again.
Yeah.
He hasn't been doing it for a while, and it seemed at first they were going to avoid that.
Yeah, right.
And they kind of shy away from it a few times.
But, you know, he actually sleeps with a woman
and at the end they do a big kiss together.
Yeah.
So Tom Cruise is kissing a woman on film again,
which he hasn't been doing for like ten years.
Not in a successful movie, I should say.
No, that's true.
So soon we're getting Mission Impossible
7 and 8, which presumably
is finishing off the trilogy of
not the trilogy, finishing off
the franchise. The 8 movies? Yeah, the
8 movie trilogy of Mission Impossible
and this was more of a
you know, this is a human drama.
Do you think the era
of Tom Cruise as an action star, like
maybe he's like, I will launch myself into space by accident,
so maybe this is it.
Maybe he is.
Maybe he's like segueing back into the Jerry Maguires.
No, because I saw an interview with him where he was like,
you know, it's the longest he's ever, like 36 years after the first one,
it's the longest he's ever waited to do anything, obviously.
It's pretty unusual.
And there was a joke about like, oh, maybe you'll do the next one
in the next 36 years.
And he was like very serious at one point.
He's like, I will be here in 36 years.
Oh, my God.
How old will he be then?
He's 58 now.
So what's that, 94?
He'll be 94.
Yeah.
All right.
Let me just put this whiteboard away, mate.
Thank you.
But the love interest, so it's Penny Benjamin.
Okay.
And she was apparently mentioned in the-
Pen Ben, they call her.
Pen Ben.
Every time they call her Pen Ben.
Hey, where's Pen Ben?
Where's Pen-
The instruction was when Pen Ben's not on screen,
everybody's asking, where's Pen Ben?
She was at school because it's mentioned that he dated
an admiral's daughter in the first movie,
but she would have been 16 if it was actually Jennifer Connelly.
Oh, I see, yeah.
At the time.
But I don't think she's supposed to be that much younger than him. No, that's true, yeah, yeah.
Because he's however old he's supposed to be.
But the previous love interest, I found an interview with Kelly McGillis.
Also, we said Kelly McGillis, that entire commentary.
I did it on purpose.
We both did a parody, and you all fell for our parody.
It was a good satire, I thought, yeah.
She was asked in 2019 why she wasn't contacted and she said it's like,
this is through Entertainment Tonight, she said it's like.
Ba-da-ba-da-ba-ba, ba-da-ba-ba-ba, keep going.
Hi, I'm Bob Newhart or whatever and I'm the blonde lady.
And now it's time for.
Bob Newhart and the blonde lady.
It was John Tesh and the blonde lady, James.
Okay, I think, wasn't there a Bob Sublin?
No, Bob Newhart's, oh, there might have been.
No, I know there's a Bob.
That's a different, hang on.
Bob Entertainment.
Entertainment Tonight.
Oh, you've nailed it, James.
It was Bob Entertainment Tonight.
No, it was Bob Goan.
Bob Goan.
More like Bob Goan of the toilet because you're so old,
you need to prostrate something.
He's only 67.
He's not that old.
Great.
Anyway.
She's really good.
She said she wasn't contacted.
It was likely because I'm old and fat and I look age appropriate
for what my age is and that is not what the whole scene is about.
I'd much rather feel absolutely secure in my skin and who
and what I am at my age as opposed to placing a value
on all that other stuff.
So we mentioned this in the commentary, but, yeah,
the last time they were – they didn't really get along at the time
and they were photographed together at the Prince of Persia premiere
in, like, 2010.
Yeah.
And, yeah, so she just doesn't do this stuff anymore.
Yeah, fair enough.
Which is – I understand.
But at least they went, let's take a reference from the previous movie
and, like, at least they didn't recast.
Yeah.
Do you remember when they...
It seems like they killed a bunch of people off screen as well.
Meg Ryan's dead.
They're just like, Meg Ryan's dead.
Your mum, Rooster, is Meg Ryan and she's dead.
That's right.
She's mega dead.
She got Megged.
She got to the Meg.
She got the Megged.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
Spoilers?
Yes.
I'm going to say best movie ever.
Great.
Good fun.
Okay.
So one thing that is, which we decided not to talk about pre-spoilers,
is that there is an expository thread that runs through the entire movie
that is notable for its absence.
And once you notice it or it's pointed out to you,
it starts to feel a little bit weird. for its absence. And once you notice it or it's pointed out to you,
it starts to feel a little bit weird.
And I guess it was also in the first one.
Yes, it felt less obvious in the first one.
Yeah, it's very.
It was more kind of like it's Russians. And it's a symptom of movie making and Hollywood in the modern era,
I think, but also, like you said, a throwback to the original one.
So in this movie, the enemy have built a uranium enrichment facility
in an underground bunker and the enemy have placed it in sort
of some very precarious terrain, you know, a mountain range
and all the very steep mountain range, all this sort of stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The enemy have fortified it with state-of-the-art radar
and countermeasures and surface-to-air missile batteries
and the enemy are-
They've got fifth-generation stealth fighters.
They have fifth-generation stealth fighters.
Who are the enemy?
Nobody knows.
I looked into this.
I think it's Iran, but...
I don't know if it is.
Okay.
So it could be Iran because that's apparently the only place
where there's F-14s still operational.
Yeah.
And they have a bunch of F-14s.
Oh, yeah, that's a spoiler, which is...
Well, we're in spoilers. We're in spoilers, yeah. Which is the plane he flies in the original one. In the of F-14s. Oh, yeah, that's a spoiler. Well, we're in spoilers.
We're in spoilers, yeah.
Which is the plane he flies in the original one.
In the original F-14 Tomcat.
Yeah.
And I think in a worse movie I would have been like,
how can you possibly shoehorn in?
Yeah.
Oh, he flew a Tomcat in the first movie so you're going
to have them magically have a Tomcat in the second movie.
But, yeah.
I think this does nostalgia the same way that Cobra Kai does it.
It's all the things that you recognise but done in a way that doesn't
feel like, oh, God.
Yeah, but so once you've realised this, it's weird that,
and we'll get to who it is, but it's weird that nobody,
they're always referred to as the enemy.
A few times they mention it. The enemy has this, we've got to're always referred to as the enemy. Well, a few times they mentioned the enemy has this,
we've got to do a mission to defeat this enemy.
And nobody in the movie goes, what enemy?
Who specifically?
Yeah.
Because you'd think they would.
And the more it happens, it feels like if you were watching a dystopian
sci-fi movie where characters are like, you have to defeat the enemy,
like the third act reveal would be like the enemy is yourself or whatever.
Or the enemy is, you know that episode of Black Mirror
where they have to kill those bugs but it turns out the bugs are refugees
or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It would be like that.
The reveal would be that the enemy actually isn't the enemy
but you're being tricked into fighting the enemy.
But in this they just keep going, the enemy, and everybody's like,
well, we'd better do the mission and get the enemy.
Well, you can't also because for a couple of reasons.
Well, they changed his jacket because I think he had a Taiwanese flag
on it in the original one.
Tom Cruise.
Yeah, and they changed it or some reference to that,
and they changed it so they can release this in China.
Right.
Which probably is going to be.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah, so as a function of, you know, because back in 1986 or whenever it was,
American movies were for Americans really, you know,
and it didn't matter if the implication was heavy that you were fighting
the Soviet Union or whatever it is.
Nah.
Or at the time if they decided they'd make it the Chinese,
they would just make it the Chinese.
But now everything is another market and if you want to make a billion dollars,
you have to.
And also, you know, it's a case of like Russia,
the government is doing bad stuff right now
and their military is doing stuff,
but the Russian people aren't doing that.
No, exactly.
They're just people who want to go out and maybe watch a movie.
They could be said of any nation.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, or the Chinese or whatever.
It's like they just want to go out and see a movie
and it would be odd if you went to see it.
You're like, oh, Top Gun, I like Tom Cruise.
And it's like these Chinese, they're coming in.
We're going to kill all these Chinese.
They don't need uranium.
We're going to get all the uranium.
But I was going to say.
So it could be Russia or China depending on like because of the planes.
Yes.
Belong to.
But also Russians and the Chinese already have all the uranium they want.
Yes.
So like they don't really need an enrichment facility.
So apparently like the official word on this is it's a rogue.
Afghanistan?
My goodness.
No, it's a rogue nation.
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
With just a bunch of very high-tech weaponry.
It's interesting, isn't it?
Because like the first movie, you just fill in the blanks.
Yeah.
Like, I hadn't seen the first one in a long time, and I'm like,
oh, yeah, they are fighting the Russians.
But, again, when you watch it, they never actually say it's the Russians.
No.
I don't think.
And in this one, I imagine most people.
You also don't ever see anyone's face.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you can't be like, where's that person from?
Yeah, yeah.
There's no chance we can do that.
Yeah, so I imagine a lot of people will go into this
and maybe won't even think about it or they'll just go,
oh, it's probably Russia.
Yeah, but like it's interesting because they're in a bind because if they
say it's Afghanistan or in fact
some other, or even if they went
oh, it's just a terrorist organisation,
it sort of breaks the reality that
this is in our
real world. Because if you go, oh, it's
a, if you invent
like a Middle Eastern country or
something or a Russian adjacent
country,
people go, well, that's not real, so what universe is this kind of thing?
But then you go, okay, well, if it's a terrorist organisation,
how do they get those fifth generation fighter planes?
Yes.
And who did they get to fly them?
Yep.
And et cetera.
Where they get all the uranium.
How did it get to this point?
Yeah.
Terrorist organisations, they're not outfitted like this. Yeah. Which is why they have to say it's a nation of some point. Yeah. Because terrorist organisations, they're not outfitted like this.
Yeah.
Which is why they have to say it's a nation of some sort.
Yeah.
And I guess it could be like if it were 20 years ago,
you could go, okay, it's a former Soviet country that's broken off and they just happen to have some leftover weapons in the armory.
To take on a modern US Air Force.
Yeah, right.
Because the fact the US are like, they've got better planes than us.
It's like, how the fuck did that happen?
What do you mean?
I'll answer that.
The F-35 is unflyable.
Oh.
So it doesn't work.
Because of the one wing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And in case you're wondering, yes, Australia has bought a bunch.
They've spent billions of dollars on it.
Just to keep you updated on how good the Australian government is,
they bought into it after it was declared a disaster.
Yeah, that's really good, isn't it?
Really good, I think.
So one of the –
But the thing is that's not what this movie is about really.
The air action is spectacular, but it's not even really about that.
It's about, like we said, it's about getting old
and making amends for the mistakes of your past
and passing along your knowledge to the next generation and also yourself.
And making sure you're the only one left alive from the previous movie.
Yeah, definitely.
You're the only one left.
Everyone else is dead.
Meg Ryan is dead.
Val Kilmer is dead.
Val Kilmer's in this.
Yes.
Yeah.
So he returns as Iceman at first in text form.
Admiral Iceman?
Yes.
That's right, Iced Man.
I didn't misspeak.
I would never correct you.
Admiral Iced Coffee Man.
But we end up getting a scene.
Admiral Iced Vovo Man.
We end up getting a scene between Iced Man and Maverick
because he's typing it out because like Val Kilmer in real life,
he's had throat cancer.
Tracheotomies.
Yes.
I don't know whether he can speak at all.
Well, he does in this movie,
but I don't know whether that was in some kind of enhancement.
Because I also saw that they're trying to recreate his voice using archival
footage and recording.
So I don't know where they were at by the time they filmed this like three
years ago.
But I thought it was a very touching scene.
I thought so too.
Yeah.
Not only the two iconic characters characters but also two iconic actors.
And they're just blokes.
They're like, we're blokes.
Let's hug.
I'm wearing a scarf.
That's a thing a bloke can do.
A bloke can wear a scarf.
Yeah, you can drive a motorcycle and I can wear a scarf.
I'm Iceman.
Yeah.
I'm Admiral Iceman.
Iceman.
So the original movie was responsible for a 500% increase
in Navy recruitment at the time.
And I think this movie.
And this one, ISIS recruitment.
What?
Yeah.
Because of Iceman.
Yes.
No Iceman.
He wasn't in ISIS though.
People aren't hearing correctly because of the, you know,
how all the.
They thought Tom Cruise went to visit his old friend from ISIS.
That's correct.
Oh, no.
Yes.
Did you watch the first movie before you see this?
You know.
But even then, maybe you think you joined ISIS in between movies.
Afterwards, yes.
Oh, God.
It's bad for everyone.
That's why the audio in theatres is so bad these days, you know.
And they put the recruiting stations outside the cinemas.
For ISIS?
Yes.
Oh, no.
It's not technically illegal.
It isn't?
No.
I think that would be illegal.
I think that would be shut down.
It says not a terrorist organisation on the booth.
Oh, okay.
It's like saying in a video game.
That's right.
It's like, hey, do you want to, the booth says,
hey, do you want to join ISIS in Minecraft?
So.
But on Navy recruitment, so this was all done through the Pentagon's
cooperation and it says via them they said, someone from there said,
it does not have to be a love letter to the military, which it is anyway,
but it needs to uphold the integrity of the military.
And it certainly.
He apologised.
I was apologising to the military. Oh, right. Well, that's very, of the military. And it's certainly- He apologised. I was apologising to the military.
Oh, right.
Well, that's very noble of you, actually.
But I don't think this works as a recruitment tool in the same way
that the original one does because the world is vastly different.
Yeah.
And the information that you can receive about other countries
in the world and why wars are fought and why the military-industrial complex exists.
It kind of...
Freedom.
Freedom.
But it kind of will put a damper on a lot of that.
And I think people are also more realistic about,
I can't just go and fly a plane.
Yeah.
There's a lot of steps between joining up and then getting to be one
of the very few people who get to be a Top Gun.
But the opening crawl does say, you know,
and then it just says, remember, everyone gets to be a Top Gun.
Sign up to our ISIS recruitment.
Oh, no!
My goodness.
Anyway, so at the end in their big mission that they have to do,
Tom Cruise has shown them how to be a proper pilot.
Yeah.
They thought they were being good pilots, but he came in and he said,
I'm destroying you all in not for real but just using techniques,
fighter pilot techniques.
That's right.
And there's some spectacular flying about.
Spooktacular flying, would you say?
And he gets out of the military at one point.
They're like, you're too much of a loose cannon. We don't
like you, Tom Cruise. We're going to do your mission, but worse.
But then he comes in as a loose
unit. That's right. Probably the loosest unit in this
movie. Yeah. No, he's not the goosest unit.
That's very true. He is the loosest.
Roost is the goosest unit.
I think so.
He is Goose's unit.
Good correct. He's come from
Goose's unit. Yes correct. He's come from Goose's unit. Yes.
So in showing that run through the canyon and then dive and then hitting the target can be done, he then gets to fly the last mission,
which is, of course, is what this whole thing was leading towards.
Yes, right.
What I didn't expect was there's a very brief moment where he's shot down.
Very briefly.
Oh, sure, yeah, yeah.
And I thought that was wonderful, just seeing, like,
what's this guy like on the ground?
Yeah.
Not as good.
Still all right, though.
He's still all right, but.
Yeah.
Yeah?
Yeah, that was fun, yeah.
It felt like, have you ever seen Behind Enemy Lines with Owen Wilson?
It felt like that for a second.
I don't think I've seen that.
For, like, five minutes.
Oh, maybe I have seen that.
Okay, yeah.
It was that, like, early 2000s.
But then having him and Miles Teller on the ground
and then find that F-14, I thought that was very cool.
That was cool stuff.
And then seeing him, and this bit must have been CGI,
there's a moment where they're up in the sky
and the two other stealth jets come next to them
and they're doing the hand signals.
It's pretty funny in moments as well where Tom Cruise is like,
I don't know.
Just completely blank fighters.
No tail call signs, no flags, no nothing. It's pretty funny in moments as well where Tom Cruise is like, I don't know. Just completely blank fighters.
No tail call signs.
No flags.
No nothing.
Hand gestures from nowhere.
You can't see any element of their skin or face.
The base has no flags on it.
Yep.
And they run right across it.
You don't see a goddamn thing.
But that moment where.
All the enemy soldiers turn away.
That's right.
They're all reading big newspapers.
In their planes?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just a big, yeah.
I know they can't be reading newspapers because that would reveal where they're from.
Reveal where it's from, you're right, yes.
Yeah.
But what was I going to say?
They're reading a lonely planet guide to China
so you know it's not China.
But giving him the older plane against these newer planes
and you always know it's coming because they're like,
even our planes, even the plane used to,
it wouldn't even stand a chance.
It's ridiculous.
You would never fly a plane like that now.
That adds a sense of tension because he's the best fighter pilot
in the galaxy.
Yeah, yeah.
Even does the Death Star trench run in this a couple of times.
But the moment where he just, I don't even know what the word is,
where he banks and he just takes out one of them immediately.
Yeah, immediately.
I thought that was just so cool.
And I don't know whether this is a real maneuver.
It probably isn't.
But where that new stealth jet does that pretty much like a handbrake turn
in the sky.
Yeah, right, right.
And they're like, what the fuck? Yeah, I mean yeah i mean some of that is you know i imagine from a technical
standpoint if you know anything about flying i imagine so what what seems to happen what seemed
to happen there is i think it just switched its engines off and just dropped and then switched
them back on again which i imagine you can't do with a with a you shouldn't be you shouldn't be
allowed to do it but yeah and right at the end i'm like god I'll be so happy if Hangman shows up because, you know,
Hangman's on the ground, he's being grounded.
He was always coming.
And I'm like, this guy, come on.
Because he's learned.
They're friends now.
They did double football.
Yeah, they did.
They played that game of double football and they became friends.
I think Hangman just wanted a kill as well.
He didn't care.
That's true.
I don't think he learnt anything.
He was just like, I've got to get to do a big kill.
So, yeah.
And so, yeah, Hangman comes in and saves the day and whatever
and they all high-five on a helicarrier.
Yeah.
Helicarrier?
No, that's a different thing.
And then Jon Hamm goes, I'm sorry.
Yeah.
I'm not saying sorry.
I see.
Jon Hamm is saying sorry.
Jon Hamm said sorry.
He said it with his face, not with his words.
That's right.
And then Amun-Yu fell on him.
It's in my mouth.
This will never come out of my white splat.
Yeah.
Well, all in all.
Good movie.
Worth seeing.
I think so too, yeah.
There's been some pretty decent movies this year.
Movies.
Yeah.
I guess also because we have two years of not many movies.
That's true.
It's nice for Tom Cruise to bing back.
He's binging back. The cinematic experience. He's teaming up with Bing to bing back all the great movies. That's true. It's nice for Tom Cruise to bing back. He's binging back.
The cinematic experience.
He's teaming up with Bing to bing back all the great movies of yesteryear.
Probably could.
Okay, if Tom Cruise said, I'm going to bring back, I'm asking you, James.
Me?
I'm going to bring back one of my other movies with a sequel,
a decades later sequel.
What would you want?
Well, it's interesting, first of all, that Joe,
what's the director of this?
He did Tron Legacy and he did the Tom Cruise movie Oblivion,
which I really liked.
Have you ever seen Oblivion?
It's from like 2011.
Is he wearing the white suit?
He's in space?
He's on an alien planet or something?
Yeah, but it's on Earth.
Yeah.
Joseph Kaczynski, yes. There it is.
Oh, he did Tron Legacy as well.
He did Tron Legacy.
Again, that's, you know, mixed reviews didn't do well financially.
Old sequels.
But, yeah, they're calling them legacyquels now.
Oh, legacyquels.
Legacyquels.
I believe it was 2013.
I apologise, Mason.
But, no, I thought he handled this whole thing very well.
And, of course, Tony Scott has passed away since.
But my question to you, so what Tom Cruise movie comes back, do you say?
Yes.
What else does he do?
What else has he done, Mason?
Vanilla Sky.
Yeah, I didn't mind Vanilla Sky.
What about Bob?
What about Bob?
What about Made in America?
What about Eyes Wide Shut and there's some sort of weird contractual thing
where Nicole Kidman has to come back?
Oh, she'd love that.
She would love it.
What about Risky Business and he's still-
Even riskier business.
I don't think he'd do that, would he?
What happened?
Oh, no, but well, here's the thing though.
At the end of risky business, all their business has fallen apart.
It was too risky.
It was too risky, but they're like, isn't Tom Cruise,
he goes to the other character and he's like,
how much money you got in your pocket?
Oh, you got five bucks?
Let's go and do another risky business.
Let's see how risky our business can be. So maybe we could find out how risky that business was. What got in your pocket? Oh, you got five bucks? Let's go and do another risky business. Let's see how risky our business can be.
So maybe we could find out how risky that business was.
What about Edge of Tomorrow?
Oh, yeah.
They've been talking about that for a long time.
Yeah, yeah.
Now would probably be a good time to do that actually.
What about Minority Report?
I would love to see another minority.
I mean, there was a show.
Yes.
What about Legend with Ridley Scott?
Did you ever see that?
Weird fantasy epic of the 80s?
Well, I was just thinking earlier that Tom Cruise was in Legend
and Jennifer Connelly was in Labyrinth.
Oh, yeah.
So that's fun, a bit of fun.
So you're saying they could both return as those characters.
I think they should both return as those characters.
What about collateral prequel but he looks younger
because it'd have to be a prequel because he doesn't have grey hair.
And he's dead.
And he's dead, that's why it's a prequel.
Oh, yeah, nice, that's cool.
What about Interview with the Vampire?
They did a sequel to that already.
Follow-up Interview with the Vampire.
Another Interview with the Vampire?
In this economy?
It doesn't really have any other kind of franchise.
Maybe Days of Thunder.
Was that a Tony Scott as well?
I want to say it was.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cocktail 2.
Cocktail 2.
Still cockin'?
Still cockin'. Cock's up. Yes. Cocktail too. Cocktail too. Still cocking? Still cocking.
Cocks up.
Yes.
Terrific.
I don't know.
What about this though?
I think they're going to make another one of these.
I don't think it's going to take as long.
Do you think Tom Cruise will be in it?
Yes.
I think also the reason, well, he's talked about the reason it's taken so long is because,
well, he was offered the chance to do it originally and he's like,
well, what would I do?
Because we kind of did everything.
Yeah.
And I think leaving this amount of time has meant the technology
has advanced enough that you can do something vastly interesting,
vastly different, but I think vastly more interesting.
Oh, my God.
Imagine the twirls he could do these days in cocktail too.
Oh, my God. Imagine the bottles he could twirl. He could twirl so many bottles do these days in cocktail too. Oh, my God.
Imagine the bottles he could twirl.
He could twirl so many bottles.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I – yeah, so apparently he announced this on the Today show,
the Australian version, in 2000.
In the year 2000 he went, we're making Top Gun 2,
but he couldn't quite figure it out.
And he's also been apparently working towards this because of the helicopter
stunts he did in the last Mission Impossible
and also American Made has a lot of actual flying in that
because he is a pilot also.
Is that the one where he's a arms dealer?
A CIA drug dealer.
Oh, okay, right, right, right.
And also that plane, you know, he's got the Spitfire Mustang
that he has in this company.
Mustang, yeah.
It's a World War II.
That's his plane.
Oh, okay. I don't know if you saw James Corden. He took James Corden up. I didn't see that, no. Yeah, It's a World War II. That's his plane. Oh, okay.
I don't know if you saw James Corden.
He took James Corden up.
I didn't see that, no.
Yeah, I saw some of it and I went, yeah, I get it.
Good stuff.
Anyway, he seems very nice, but is he?
We don't know.
There's no way of knowing.
There's been some very strange things.
Yeah.
Maybe we'll just leave it at that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
But we'll see all of his movies, won't we? We will see all of his movies. We'll see some of his movies at least. There we go. Is that it? that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But we'll see all of his movies, won't we?
We will see all of his movies.
We'll see some of his movies at least.
There we go.
Is that it?
I think that's it, yeah.
We should move on then.
Okay, great.
What are we moving on to?
We're moving on to another segment called What We Read.
Oh, did you hear how he said he sees every movie?
He goes in disguise and sees every movie?
Now, I saw that.
I love the fact that he goes in disguise.
I want follow-up questions.
Like what disguises?
Name some movies you've seen recently.
Or name some disguises you've worn recently.
I think it's just a baseball cap.
Probably just be a baseball cap.
But I'd say, like, tell me about Morbius.
Because he said every movie.
But I also saw a follow-up, and maybe this was the internet making it up,
but I saw a tweet that suggested somebody asked him about Morbius
and he said, I didn't say Morbius.
Okay.
But there's a lot of Morbius discourse and not all of it is true.
That's very true, yeah.
Yeah.
I saw a lot of people talking about how Sony might make a Morbius sequel
because they'll take the wrong idea that people are interested.
Yeah.
There's always Morbius bars happening.
There is.
Even though we shut it down very clearly.
We did.
Well, we shut down Monthbius.
Yes.
I don't think we shut down talking about Morbius.
That is true.
Anyways, Mason, what is it time for?
It's time for a segment we call What We Readin'.
What we gonna read.
He's right, everybody.
I hate to admit it, but when he's right, he's right.
I'm doing the thing.
Westworld?
Nice.
Mason, this is a segment of the show where we talk about things we've been watching,
reading, listening to, whatever the F.
Whatever.
Whatever the F, man.
And do you want to talk a little bit about Ode B1?
Let's talk about Ode B1 Kenobi.
What did you think about it?
I'll say this just up top.
Go on.
This is the best way to watch the prequels in that four-minute recap.
Watching those, I'm like, oh, this looks good.
I just watched them recently. You absolutely did, yeah. I oh, this looks good. I should just watch them recently.
You absolutely did, yeah.
I watched them to death.
I never want to watch them again.
But your son wants to watch them, right?
Yeah, we did the original, so he wants to watch Phantom Menace,
and I'm like, I just don't know whether I can.
I'm going to have to listen to a podcast while we're watching
the Phantom Menace with you, and then I'll also explain
what's happening.
That's right.
Because there's a lot of stuff.
Okay.
So slightly old B1 Kenobi, slightly older B1 Kenobi.
Yes, yes, yes.
Is that a joke?
Yeah, I think so.
Great, good.
It's good to get one in before the end of the show.
Mason, what are you thinking?
Again, we're going to do a bigger recap at the end, but where are you at?
Look, I love seeing Ewan McGregor on screen.
He doesn't love you though, does he?
You've sent him many letters.
It's true and he's never written me back.
He's busy.
Hey, wait a minute.
What's under this table?
It's a big box of my letters, James.
You've been taking my letters to Ewan McGregor.
Maybe he does love me after all.
I'm going to go.
I'm going to hand deliver these to Ewan McGregor.
Thanks for nothing, James.
Oh, you're welcome.
See you later.
I like seeing Ewan McGregor on this, but I think it's interesting.
I think it's interesting.
It's quite slow going thus far.
Yeah, you think so?
Or the first one in particular?
It's a surprise to no one.
They've taken the plot of what would probably be a two-hour movie
and they're going to stretch it over six episodes.
See, I didn't find it.
I honestly didn't find it that slow.
I was happy that they, I guess, spoilers, I guess, for this?
Yeah, I think so, yeah.
You know, they're getting off Tatooine, you know,
after the first episode and he's off and about on his little adventure.
And I think there were some surprises in here for me.
Number one surprise, a friend of the show, Steel Saunders.
Oh, my God.
Is in the first episode.
He absolutely is.
It's a pivotal scene where one of the Inquisitors arrive on Tatooine
and they attempt to derive the location.
They attempt to threaten the location of a Jedi out of Owen Lars,
but he won't give them up.
But who's there in the background just having a good look?
It's bloody Steel Saunders, isn't it?
So he's going to do, he's got some.
I mean, maybe it's somebody who looks like Steel Saunders.
No, it is.
He messaged me.
No, I know it is.
He's going to put that up on his YouTube channel, I believe,
like the whole background behind how that all happened.
So, yeah, apparently he found out like there's like a call sheet
or whatever, a casting thing.
It had a very specific number.
It didn't say Star Wars.
And he found out which one it was and he applied
and that's how he got in there.
God, he's done it.
Yeah.
He's finally done it.
It's all been leading up to this.
I mean, some would say he simply loves Star Wars for the magic of it all,
but he's told us in secret he just wanted to appear in the Obi-Wan Kenobi
series and now he's out.
And ruin it, he said.
He said he wanted to ruin it.
He said he was throwing rocks at everyone on set.
So, yeah, check out the Steel Wars YouTube Shadowland podcast
for more information on that.
But I thought, like, I enjoyed Kumail Nanjiani's character,
the fake Jedi.
I didn't mind.
I quite liked young Princess Lara.
I think she's well cast, yeah.
We didn't really get anything of young Luke yet.
No.
We just see him being.
And maybe he won't be in it much, but the chase was pretty,
you know, that chase she has.
Underwhelming?
Bizarre. Very bizarre. And maybe he won't be in it much, but the chase was pretty, you know, that chase she has in the first episode.
Very bizarre.
But, you know, I also liked seeing Jimmy Smits and Alderaan because we haven't really seen that at all.
And Princess Leia's so mean and I love that.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, I think they nailed the casting of little Leia.
I think that was good.
And they've given her the super sassy characterisation of, you know,
Episode 4.
Yes.
Oh, well, I mean, the whole series.
Just little and mean.
Just little and mean.
Yeah, I like to see, I like Kumail Nanjiani as the fake Jedi.
Yeah.
And, you know, we really got a sense of the monotony of Kenobi's life.
He doesn't live in a house.
He doesn't.
He lives in a cave.
Yeah.
And he's cutting old whale meat. Yeah, he's key skin. in a house. He lives in a cave. And he's cutting old whale meat.
Yeah, he's key skin.
For a living.
But I also like that, I know there's been some mixed reactions
to the Inquisitors, how like a lot of that stuff kind of feels forced.
And look, Star Wars.
In what way?
Like the interactions feels like a bit over the top and theatrical.
But I like this.
Oh, Star Wars.
Yeah, I know.
I like the speeches that they're giving to like the threatening speeches.
She just like takes that woman's hand off.
Yeah, that's classic Star Wars.
Yeah.
I didn't mind at all.
And I think that's also going to grow where you find out where they all,
or her in particular, where they're from.
If I could summarize.
She's probably a youngling.
Yeah, I think the show is, well, yeah,
I wondered if maybe she's somebody in that opening sequence, you know, which is the.
Order 66.
The Order 66.
I wonder if she was a survivor.
I mean, because most of the Inquisitors are ex-Jedis.
I think they all are, yeah.
Yeah, right.
So maybe she's a survivor of that.
Yeah, look, if I can summarize, like a lot of Star Wars,
it's pretty dumb, but I'm on board with this one.
That's Star Wars though, isn't it?
Yeah, that's Star Wars.
It's a complete mixed bag
but I was kind of
confused as to why she knew who Anakin
Skywalker was because not
a lot of people know that and if you know who he really
is he'll often kill you or if you
admit to him that you know he'll kill you
so I don't know whether she's figured that out
by herself whether she saw him in the Jedi
Temple. I think they are going to explain
it but I thought that was a bit
heavy-handed to be like, Darth Vader's looking for you.
That's right, it's actually Anakin Skywalker.
It's like, yeah, you don't need to say it.
We know who he is.
Yeah.
But then that cut, then that like the absolute like terror
in Ewan McGregor's face and then it cuts to Darth Vader in the tank.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And just what we're getting next.
He's like, crotch.
Oh, God, I hate it in here.
Yeah. the tank and just what we're getting next. He's like, crotch. Oh, God, I hate it in here. You're feeding me helium.
This isn't even regular oxygen.
I sound ridiculous.
It's way Darth Vader.
Darth Vader.
Boo.
They're trying out different voices for me.
But I think, no, I enjoyed the start of it.
I think it's also good that they put two out.
I think if they had to put one out,
I think it would have had a very different reception.
Yeah, episode one, I think, you know,
I think people would be like,
why is Obi-Wan refusing the call to adventure?
That is the cornerstone of all Star Wars in a lot of ways.
And I also like that he's not really using the Force at all
and he has to do fistfights and he's very rusty.
He's like punching people and he's hurting his hands.
But he's got drugs and he uses drugs to escape.
And when I saw Flea, I'm like, my God, that's Flea.
My God, that's Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Because I watched it with Claire.
Tatooinecation is the album he would create in this universe.
She didn't like it at all though.
Alderaan-ication.
Alderaan-ication.
Alderaan-ication?
Yeah.
Sure.
But she didn't like it at all.
And I kept having to like explain what's happening.
She's like, what happened to the mother?
I'm like, okay, you're going to hate this, but she died of a broken heart.
She's like, what?
It's like, yeah, she had twins and then died because she was sad about her husband.
She's like, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
I'm like, it is stupid, especially considering like he caught fire
and lost all his limbs and then he's like, I'm going to keep doing this.
She's like, oh, I'm so sad.
But there's no medical reason.
That's true.
And she has children, but she's just like, I'm out.
I'm sad.
It's stupid.
Didn't the emperor use her life force to create that?
That is a theory, but no, I don't think that's what it is.
I think it was just badly written.
Didn't the Emperor use her life force to heat up a burrito in the microwave?
That is true, actually.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but it was still cold in the middle.
Yeah, that's right.
And he's like, God damn it.
Couldn't you have hung on for another five seconds, Padme?
For God's sake.
And I understand that Darth Vader survived because of his hate, et cetera, and so forth.
Yes.
But I kind of hope that Obi-Wan ditches Princess Leia.
Just out in space.
Yeah.
And, you know, he could drop her off and then it's just about more
about him and Vader.
Do you think, okay, two things.
Do you think that we are going to get another Obi-Wan
and fake Jedi team up?
Do you think they're going to team up again?
It feels like a character that should appear again.
But again, in like Mandalorian and Boba Fett,
we did get a lot of like significant characters that were there
for a minute and then were gone again.
He can show up in five years after Return of the Jedi.
Nice, perfect.
Which is what I'm all about.
Also, do you think Leia's little droid friend,
do you think it's going to get rebuilt,
and do you think it'll have some sort of appeal on the same level
as Baby Yoda?
There'll be some appeal between that and BB-8 and the droid they have
in, like, all in order and whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right.
Let's know.
Maybe you can get a multiple Funko pack.
Maybe you can.
Maybe you get one so you can get a drone.
You can really fly in real life.
Hell, yeah.
But overall, I honestly enjoyed it,
and I think I enjoyed it more the more it went on.
And just seeing him was ridiculous at the end, though.
He's just literally behind some boxes, and she's like,
I'm going to come and get you, Obi-Wan.
He's like, ooh, I'm going to hide behind this box.
And then the other Inquisitor turns up, and he's like, stop it.
This is silly. You're being silly. But she he's like, stop it. This is silly.
You're being silly.
But she's not like, yeah, he's right there.
He's right there.
I'm five seconds away from killing him.
I can do a big jump and it looks like he's out of practice,
big jump style.
So I reckon I can do a big jump at him and, like, cut his head off.
I don't think he's even got a lightsaber on him.
I can do the big helicopter thing we do.
We do the thing.
We do the big lightsaber helicopter thing.
And there's questions of, like, is the Grand Inquisitor dead?
No, because he dies later in Rebels.
Unless they clone him, but I don't think so.
So the guy who got stabbed was the Grand Inquisitor.
Grand Inquisitor, yeah.
He shows up in Rebels again.
Right, okay.
But Benny Safdie's the Jedi in the town.
Oh, yeah, he is too, yeah.
I also thought it was a pretty weak kind of, they strung him up,
but it wasn't in a particularly horrific way.
That's true, yeah.
He's kind of like just hanging like a Christmas ornament.
I think a lot of the townsfolk would be like,
geez, I'd actually rather be hanging out there than working
in that weird meat packing plant, to be honest.
How long has that meat been in the sun for?
Yeah.
Isn't that a whale?
Do we even have those?
Great, great point.
Maybe it was a big salmon.
Well, it was an ocean planet or something at one point.
I see.
So maybe it's.
What, so they dig up this whale?
Where'd it come from?
Well, the sand dunes shift.
Remember he found the lightsabers, though, in the sand dunes?
I did see that.
Those ones didn't shift.
They were right there under the earth.
So one was his and one was.
Anakin's.
Okay, right, right.
One that killed all the kids.
He's probably killed a bunch of kids, I reckon.
Just alien kids, doesn't matter.
Yeah, just alien kids. Little frog people.
You do the quick calculation, you go,
okay, well, on this planet, the
planet goes around the sun. Yeah, they're
over 18.
Technically, they're adults.
But it's moving to Wednesdays,
which is good, so I'm happy to...
I'm looking forward to seeing what they're going to do
with Darth Vader in this series.
I'm really looking forward to that.
Do you think there will be multiple battles
or do you think there will be a single battle at the end?
I think there might be, and I made the same mistake
for Batman Superman, there might be an initial battle
where Obi-Wan doesn't do very well.
Then he comes back and he's like, I'll flip now.
I'll fucking flip and shit.
I'm back.
That's right.
Yeah.
I'm going to exhibit some incredible powers that I won't do when I'm Alec Ennis.
I can breathe fire now.
Get this.
But I liked it.
I did like it.
Yeah.
And, you know, Star Wars is many different things.
And it can be many different things within one episode.
It's going to be TV shows.
It's going to be movies.
It's going to be that animated thing.
I just mean like in terms of tone and quality and all of that.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Yeah, that's true, yeah.
But you cannot doubt that Ewan McGregor is just terrific as Obi-Wan Kenobi.
I like the lady who's playing the Inquisitor as well.
I like her too.
As mentioned, I like her little speech about like.
Yeah.
Because they rule through fear.
That's the whole thing.
I hope Joel Edgerton comes back for a significant portion,
but I don't know if he will.
He will be back, but I don't know whether he's going to serve
a greater purpose in this.
Do you think he might have some incredible powers that he won't have
when he gets incinerated in the new Oath?
Yeah, because if he had breathe ice powers,
he probably would have stopped that from happening.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think that was the original Aunt Beru,
but we didn't really get a close look.
I'm pretty sure.
I'm almost 100% sure.
She got A-line maybe?
What?
What's that?
Did she get one line?
I don't remember at all, actually.
I don't remember either.
Wow.
Anyway, should we move on?
Yeah.
Have you been watching anything else,
reading anything else?
Oh, yeah.
I bought.
I'm watching Stranger Things.
Oh, yeah.
Initially, I'm like, I don't know.
They're all falling out as friends. Some don't want to play D&D anymore. I don't know. They're all falling out as friends.
Some don't want to play D&D anymore.
I don't know.
Am I into this?
Yeah, it's still good.
I like it a lot.
I still like it.
I haven't gotten back to this new season.
God, they're so tall.
The run times keep increasing.
Is that what's happening?
The last one's two and a half hours.
I like the villain.
There's a lot of callbacks.
There's some very obvious Freddy Krueger callbacks.
Not to spoil it
but you'll see that
happening more and more
is it all out now
or is it
the first portion
of this first series
I think
because I saw a billboard
that said you know
part one coming out here
part two coming out
at this point
and I think
July's the next part
is that an
is that an indication
that Netflix are kind of
rethinking their
their strategy of
dumping everything
on the platform all at once?
Yes, absolutely.
They did with Ozark as well.
I'm pretty confident.
I'm also about to play, but I haven't yet, Sniper Elite 5.
I see.
I love the Sniper Elite series.
You're going to play it with the kids.
Yes.
Check out this nut shot.
Yes.
Check out this nut shot.
Yeah, we're not watching Phantom Menace.
You're going to watch me shoot Nazis in the testicles.
I'm the Phantom.
They call me the Phantom Menace because of the number going to watch me shoot Nazis in the testicles. I'm the Phantom. They call me the Phantom Menace
because of the number of Nazi soldiers I've shot
in the testicles.
Sneak off into the night.
I really liked 4. That's kind of
really how I jumped on the series and I played around with
some of the other ones.
It's like simple
Hitman. It's very satisfying.
I like the little maps they give you.
They're just pretty good.
Pretty good, I reckon.
And I know they're not for everybody,
and I'm not even really like a stealth game guy,
but there's something about the aesthetic.
I just really like those games a lot.
Yeah, nice.
Well, I haven't played the new one, so maybe I'll hate it.
Anyways, are you doing anything else, or should we move it along?
The only other thing that I watched this week,
I re-watched Eastern Promises.
Oh, the Viggo Mortensen.
Who directed that? David Cronenberg. Oh, the Viggo Mortensen. Who directed that?
David Cronenberg.
Oh, because he's in the new one.
Yeah, Cronenberg has a new movie out called Crimes of the Future.
And it's making people vomit.
It's making people vomit because it's this classic weird body horror,
what's happening and there's an artist and they grow extra organs
and then they show them to people or something.
Look at these.
That's the plot of it.
So I thought I would go and I was like,
ah, you know, what should I re-watch of his oeuvre that isn't too gross
and the least gross one?
I'm like, oh, I remember really liking Eastern Promises.
I don't know whether it's seen a bunch of it.
I should watch Naked Lunch.
People talk about that, don't they?
You should probably watch.
Video Drone Scanners.
I think the first – So Crimes of the Future is good, is it? Well that, don't they? You should probably watch Video Drone Scanners. I think the first...
So Crimes of the Future's good, is it?
Well, I don't know. It's making people vomit.
No, sorry. He made it in
1970. It's a different movie.
Yeah. So I meant the original one.
Yeah, the original. But Crimes of the Future
2022 isn't a
remake of Crimes of the Future 1970. He's just
used the same name for some reason.
Because he's that
of that David Lynch vintage where he just does
whatever he wants and people are like, is that significant?
Does that have some important narrative significance?
And he's like, no.
No, but this guy grew an ear next to his.
That's right, exactly.
Is that significant, bitch?
Let me have a look at Cronenberg.
Let's have a look at bloody Cronenberg's bloody filmography.
Wow.
I think the first thing I saw of his was Existence,
which is the one that was unfortunately,
it was similarly themed to The Matrix.
Oh, yeah, and in 99.
Yeah, it was in 99, but it got absolutely blown out of.
Oh, Jude Law, I remember this.
Yeah, it got absolutely blown out of the public consciousness
by The Matrix in the same year.
And then I went back and there's, you know,
he did Scanners and Videodrome.
He did, yeah, Naked Lunch.
He did Dead Ringers, which is the one with Jeremy Irons
playing two roles, and A History of Violence,
Eastern Promises.
And Cosmopolis, which is Robert Pattinson's in that one.
Is that the one where it's 9-11?
I'm not sure if it does end with it being 9-11.
Isn't there a Robert Pattinson movie that ends with him, it's 9-11? I'm not sure if it does end with it being 9-11. Isn't there a Robert Pattinson movie that ends with him, it's 9-11?
I mean, maybe.
There is a movie that is set on September the 10th, 2001, though,
and every time it gets any kind of social media play.
No, it was the movie Remember Me.
Okay, right.
It was the Robert Pattinson.
But anyway, I'm like, I'll go back to it.
It just ends and it's 9-11.
What an ending to a movie that just went, by the way, it's 9-11
Great
27% Rotten Tomatoes
Sorry, what were you saying?
Anyway, I'd watch it at Easton Promises, Pulse Up, I think
Great
Anyway, it's time for Letters, I reckon, what do you reckon about that?
I think it probably is time for Letters
I reckon I'm going to play the Letters theme to signify that it's time for Letters
Let's do it
The classic one was
Letters, oh Letters, we love you I reckon I'm going to play the lettuce theme to signify that it's time for lettuce. Let's do it. The classic one was...
Lettuce, oh lettuce, we love you.
Some lettuce, they're only a day away.
I know they're here right now.
We're going to do lettuce.
Also in that movie, Viggo Mortensen's character, he wears like a grey shirt.
Yeah.
Like a very specific shade of grey.
And it's incredible.
And I've spent like most of my adult life trying to track down a shirt
in that exact shade of grey.
And you did it.
No, I haven't been able to do it.
It's maddening, James.
It's just grey though, isn't it?
It's a very specific shade of grey.
I should email David Cronenberg.
He'll know.
Viggo Mortensen, Eastern.
Weren't they going to make a sequel to Eastern Promises?
Western Promises, yeah.
Westfield Promises. It's set in the shopping centre. Wow. That's a
franchise. Northland Promises.
Wow, Northland. Northland Promises.
Fantastic.
Wouldn't it be Eastland Promises?
No. No, no, no.
You're right. That's implied in the first one.
He's just leaving Eastland
at the start of the movie,
obviously. It says
here that this shirt is just a regular
grey shirt and any idiot could buy it.
I just googled it.
I should have found that page.
Alright, what's
next, Mason? Oh, emails I reckon.
Letters, right. So you mentioned that already, but this is
basically the part where people can write into the show
either through Gmail, weeklyplanetpod
at gmail.com or hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter.
That's correct.
Mason, could you tell us something that's happened?
I absolutely can.
This is an email from Kay.
Hello, Kay.
And she has said, could you please give the tiniest shout out to my now fiancé, James,
who an hour ago proposed to me via escape room?
But I'm already married.
Different James.
There's more than one James in the world, James.
Name one.
This guy, James.
Okay.
James' fiance, I think his name is.
I obviously said yes, she says.
We're literally sitting at-
What if she was like, I said no.
Anyways, love the show.
We're literally sitting at the Lincoln in Melbourne right now celebrating.
He's subscribed to us, you guys, from the beginning,
and I would love for you to give him a hey.
Sick.
Keep up the good work, boys, from Kay.
Well done.
Congratulations.
Congratulations.
You've got a stage in your bloody life.
And you got out of that escape room.
Two big wins.
At what point did he propose during the escape room?
That's the thought.
That's the question I had.
I mean, did he set it up with the escape room guys?
Be like at the end.
Oh, they'd be able to do that, wouldn't they?
Or what about.
Or is he now hearing this and going, I should have done that.
Yeah, yeah.
I opened the box at the end.
There would have been a ring in the box at the end.
Or maybe he like, the more dangerous game is you just really bad at,
you pretend to be really bad at all the traps and the things,
so you're stuck in there.
And then when she's like, this is the absolute last straw,
you could be like, well, since we're trapped in here,
you want to get married?
Do you want to get married in the escape room?
Oh, great stuff.
What have I got here, Mason?
What else do you have there?
Got one here from Nate who says, hashtag weekly planet pod.
I know you guys are excited for classic TV character,
Obi-Wan Kenobi's Return.
But I suppose you haven't heard you say anything about Stranger Things
in the weeks led up to the release.
Like me, perhaps you are no longer excited for the show.
I meant to talk about Stranger Things here.
Yes, I wasn't super excited.
I was like, yeah, I'll probably get around to that again.
But I think there are some, like it falls into some familiar kind
of territory, but I think it's also, you know,
there's a little adventure in Russia happens, as mentioned.
There's a new bad guy.
They introduce some interesting new characters.
I think it's good.
I think it's still really good.
interesting new characters.
I think it's good.
I think it's still really good.
Are they, is there any moment in it where they're attempting to do like a backdoor pilot to something else?
That was on the same debate.
Okay, all right.
They've learned a lesson there.
That's great.
This is an email and it is also a PSA.
It's from Cisco.
He had a question about giveaways.
I got a message today from someone claiming to work with you guys
saying I'd won a PS5
as a prize on a giveaway by the Weekly Planet.
Was this on a YouTube comment or like an actual direct
message? It says I got a message today.
I thought awesome. How?
I thought awesome but couldn't believe it because I've never
known you guys to do giveaways before. It's true.
We are greedy and we keep all the things to ourselves.
Also, the person that contacted
me was kind of rude.
That doesn't rule us out.
Yeah, yeah.
I thought you guys might want to know about it,
maybe keep an eye out for people trying to scam you or other people.
Yeah, I would say.
Anything you receive, whether it be a YouTube comment or a message,
if you don't hear it like here.
On this podcast, yes.
Then it's not a thing.
Yeah, we're not giving it anyway.
Except for these board APNFTs.
Yeah, we're going to sell those.
That you can purchase.
Don't steal them from me though. Don't steal them. Yeah, we're going to sell those. Which you can purchase. Yeah, we're going to. Don't steal them from me though.
So, yeah, no, that's not us.
I'd seen this on other, I've seen this on YouTube channels
and like people have had to address this sort of stuff
and I'm like, boy, it's never happened to us,
but I guess it has now.
Yeah, there's a bunch of spam.
I try to keep on top of it, but you can't catch all of it.
Yeah.
In the event we did a giveaway, we'd announce it on here.
Yes, exactly. So don't fall for a but you can't catch all of it. In the event we did a giveaway, we'd announce it on here. Yes, exactly.
So don't fall for a goddamn thing.
Don't fall for it.
I've got a tweet here, Mason.
Go on.
It's from the Afro Tales podcast who says,
and you're going to love this, Mason.
I think you're actually tagged in this.
Found this at a local African shop.
Looks like it was never opened.
What should I do with it?
Open and read or save it?
Now, if you saw this, it was an Ultraverse Malibu comic. Yes. And it was Hard opened. What should I do with it? Open and read or save it? Now, if you saw this, it was an Ultraverse Malibu comic.
Yes.
And it was Hardcase.
Sure.
Do you remember the character Hardcase?
I vaguely remember the character.
From Malibu Comics.
So if you go into your ads or maybe do a search for hashtag Malibu Comics
on Twitter, you'll probably find the said image, Mason.
Malibu Hardcase. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Well, he was the leader of the Ultra Force I believe.
But I was more of a, God, I can't remember.
There it is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know this guy?
That's great stuff.
Yeah, no, that's incredible stuff.
What should he do though?
Well, look, I won't lie to you.
You don't know it?
No, I'm familiar with it.
But that was an era when, like, everything sold a million copies.
So give it a read?
Yeah, give it.
Or, you know what, there'd be a digital version of it online,
like either for free or to pay for if you, you know, maybe keep it.
Maybe keep it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's dressed like Judge Dredd without the helmet.
He's dressed like Kyle Katarn without the helmet.
Not Kyle Katarn.
What's his name?
Dash Rendar.
Dash Rendar.
Thank you.
You're very welcome.
For following me on that incredible joke I was making.
That was two before the end of the show.
Any other things, Masons?
Well, I was going to say I was more of a bloody.
What are Malibu Comics doing at the moment?
Well, nothing.
They got bought by Marvel.
Oh.
Yeah, I was more of a Prime guy.
Prime was their version of Captain Marvel, Power of Shazam.
Okay.
He was like a kid who turned into a big superhero,
but instead of it being a bolt of lightning, he was all gross.
Like all this slime would explode out of him and he would turn into Prime.
Oh, no.
Is he all right?
Yeah, no, he died.
Okay.
No, I think he's still alive.
Oh, good.
Malibu was also the Nightman, which was, of course,
the jazz saxophonist that was –
Yeah, turned into a television show.
Yeah, that was great.
Yeah, your favorite show, right?
Yeah, and Malibu was also the origin of Men in Black.
Oh, yeah, of course.
But then they were purchased by Marvel.
Purchased, et cetera.
And now Men in Black is –
A bad franchise.
A bad franchise.
A bad franchise.
There's been one good movie.
Yeah.
Yeah. Wow. And that show one good movie. Yeah. Yeah.
Wow.
And that show, which I quite liked.
Yeah.
The animated show.
Anything else or should we call it a day?
Here's an email.
This is from John.
He says, thanks a lot.
So we'll do one more email, do you reckon?
Yeah, let's do one more email.
Okay, right.
It says, thanks a lot.
And I'm like, I wonder if this is sarcastic, but it's not.
Thanks a lot.
Hello, it's been a very hard 12 months for me in my life.
I had to get divorced and move away and start a new job.
Oh, boo. And it's hard not to be sad. I had to get divorced and move away and start a new job. Oh, boo.
And it's hard not to be sad.
I've got a therapist and meds and like that,
but it's still kind of hard to enjoy things.
When I listen to you guys have fun and talk about things
that helps me feel better, I'm very grateful.
Well worth $9 a month.
And just also know that we are miserable,
so if that makes you feel any better.
We may seem like we're having fun, but...
I'm having fun, actually.
Are you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not having fun.
I don't have any way to help you.
I don't know.
What more do you want?
It's not up to you.
Okay, do you want the dregs of this soda?
That's very empty.
Yeah, I know.
There's a little bit in the bottom.
There's a little bit in there.
Anyway, John says,
this isn't a funny letter like the ones you read on the air.
It's okay.
I just wanted to thank you for what you do.
Hope you guys are doing well.
We are. Yeah, no, we're doing all right. Yeah, thank you for what you do. Hope you guys are doing well. We are.
Yeah, no, we're doing all right.
Yeah.
But you know what?
It sounds also you're moving forward in ways, which is really cool.
That is right.
Moving, new job, you know?
That's great.
That's really good.
You're bloody, you're doing it.
And most importantly, you're giving us $9 a month, which I think, you know,
that's the greatest gift you could give anybody.
That's true.
Maybe one day I'll bloody cheer James up.
I'll cheer this guy up.
No, Mason, I'm very happy. It's an absolute Maybe one day I'll bloody cheer James up. I'll cheer this guy up. No, Mason,
I'm very happy. It's an absolute bummer of a podcast host.
I'm very happy, Mason.
Wow. Speaking of
drinks, Mason, as you mentioned, there's a video
that just went up on my channel which is on the Phantom Menace
marketing blitz. And I may or
may not have purchased a set of
Pepsi cans from the 1999
Pepsi exclusive Phantom Menace deal. You have there in the other room. I may or may not. And then I may or may not have purchased a set of Pepsi cans from the 1999 Pepsi exclusive
Phantom Men of Steel.
You have there in the other room.
I've seen it.
I may or may not.
And then I may or may not have opened and drunk one in the video
towards the end of the video.
Did you really?
Who's to say?
I thought they were empty.
Who's to say?
Well, they're empty.
One of them's empty now.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Here's one more email.
Okay.
But I don't know whether I drunk it.
Maybe I just opened it over the sink.
Anyway, go on.
This is from Oliver.
Worst superhero movie
lines of all time.
Okay.
By James and May.
So while recently seeing
Doctor Strange in the
Multiverse of Madness,
I couldn't get over
the path where
after Doctor Strange
has just been introduced
to the Illuminati.
Spoiler alert.
His immediate response
is the Illumawattie.
Like he's never heard
the word.
Like he's never heard the word Illuminati.
Yeah.
This ranks just above the part from No Way Home where he says, Scooby-Doo this crap.
Those are the two worst lines in the MCU.
That's interesting.
Both Doctor Strange lines.
Do you think it's his fault?
Yes.
Is it because he's not funny?
Maybe.
He's trying to do jokes?
What are some lines from superhero movies that seem the weirdest, most out of place
for you guys?
Now, people wanted to say, it's Morbin time. Do they? I don't think they do. From Michael Morbius. That's what place for you guys. Now, people wanted to say it's Morbin time.
Do they?
I don't think they do.
From Michael Morbius.
That's what people want to hear.
Yeah, sure.
But it's not a real line.
No, it's true.
Just to clarify.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Weird, bad line.
Well, here's one.
God.
Well, I mean, bring that up.
But I was going to say one of the weirdest ones,
and I only learned about this recently, in the first X-Men movie,
you know when Storm says to Toad, you know what happens to a toad when it gets struck by lightning
and everybody's like that's a weird line apparently that was a like that was a through
line in the movie like toad would say toad had more lines in the original car and he would say
like what happens to a toad when you try and step on it it comes and it gets you or whatever like
he like the whole the whole bit was like he was taunting people throughout the movie.
Okay.
Like what happens to a toad when you flip it on its back or whatever.
Oh, so it's actually a climate callback.
Yeah, so she turns around on him.
But they were like.
It just sounds weird now.
It just sounds weird now because they cut it all out.
So I think that's really interesting.
But, yeah.
I want a list here.
I wonder if Doctor Strange's lines seem bad because they are bad.
I mean, they are bad.
But it's weirder to me because they come out of his mouth
in an American accent.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
Even though the character is supposed to be American,
apparently Cumberbatch was hired because they were like,
he's going to do a British accent.
Really?
This is an inherently British kind of character.
But he was like, no, this character is too iconically American.
He could have totally got away with it.
I know.
I'm on what culture and they've got 30 lines here,
but I'm only going to do some.
Let's rank them.
Mostly because they're all on different pages.
Never rub another man's rhubarb.
Oh, yeah, for Batman.
That's just Jack Nicholson just saying whatever.
It's true.
Peter's destiny, the amazing Spider-Man.
I don't like that The Amazing Spider-Man,
like you have to have a responsibility and you need to do so.
Yeah, they had to do a quick reword of great power
with great power becomes great responsibility.
Where do you stand on I'm the juggernaut bitch?
I hate it.
What about?
I think it's rude and disrespectful.
That's what that feels like.
What about that?
That's what that feels like.
Batman.
What was the context of that again?
I can't remember.
Catwoman disappears?
Somebody disappears.
Yeah, I quite like that.
Apparently time to accessorize is in Catwoman, no doubt.
Apparently the line leaves.
I would have said time to catcessorize.
Very good.
I would have said time to accessorize.
Leave me alone from the Incredible Hulk.
That's fine.
What a great line.
Ghost Rider apparently says he may have my soul,
but he doesn't have my spirit.
Okay.
I would have said he may have my soul,
but he doesn't have a big flaming head,
and I can shoot flame out of my head.
What about?
Get him with big flames out of my head.
What about, what do you prefer, yellow spandex?
You like that?
I don't like that because that line essentially killed the X-Men
getting decent costumes forever.
For 20 years.
Forever, for the whole time.
So at the time I think that was a fun reference,
but I think what happened there is because that movie was so successful
it drove a stake through the heart of them actually getting yellow spandex
or any kind of interesting costumes until at least first class.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'll get drive-through from Batman Forever is number one.
No, that's not the worst line.
It's the toad one, despite.
I have no problem with any of those lines.
They're all wonderful and I love everything.
Mason, is that the show?
That's the whole show.
Wow.
And you've loved everything.
You've loved every moment of the show.
It's true.
I can't think of a single thing I don't like about this show every week
that we do it.
Yes, I'm part of this show.
That's as good as validation to me.
That is.
Yes.
Inadvertently, that is validation.
I got you.
Folks, thank you so much for listening to this show.
Thank you for subscribing.
Thank you for telling your friends about it.
Thank you for leaving a five-star review on whatever podcast platform you have
because that helps other people find the show
and that's how we get more listeners.
It's true.
James, you got any reviews there?
I got a couple right here, Mason.
This one's from System underscore Hero who gave us five stars just in-app.
It's so easy and so helpful.
It says, long-time listener, first-time reviewer.
Been listening to this podcast since I was 15 years old.
Recently I graduated from college.
This is not to brag about graduating as my degree is completely
and utterly useless but rather to make you two old hosts
of an old podcast feel even older.
At least they're funny and handsome but still old so gross.
We are old and gross.
That is very true.
Some of my favourite reviews and emails and things are things like...
I was born when I listened to this show.
Or I was in high school when I started
listening to this and now I'm a doctor.
And I'm like... What?
Excuse me? Well, we've been in this
room
saying stupid things about comic
books. So you're welcome. That's right.
This one's from HawkCooVHS
who says, real life Batman and Superman
because one of them is an intense billionaire
and the other is a fun, alien, strong man.
That's also me.
Which one am I?
I'm the versus?
You're the versus.
I do the V. I do this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I make a big V.
Nice.
That's beautiful.
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How does he do it?
It's technology and work and dedication and effort, I think.
That's right.
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That's right.
That's right.
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Yeah.
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whichever one is least scary and confusing to you.
I agree.
For me, it's all of them.
They're all very scary and confusing.
You don't like them?
No, I love them.
They give you the spooky dudes?
They give me a thrill.
They give me a rollercoaster-like thrill.
Oh, my goodness.
Let's see.
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But still download our commentary.
Yeah, download the commentary though.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maybe download the commentary and listen to it in the theatre
while you watch Top Gun Mavericks.
See if it syncs up.
Maybe it will.
It should.
It would be amazing.
Wouldn't it be amazing if it did?
I think it would be amazing.
That would be incredible.
It would be amazing.
Miles Teller would say.
It would be Alex Lloyd amazing.
That's how amazing it would be.
Also, folks, we've got some T-shirts over at tpublic.com.
You can legally purchase those.
You can legally purchase those.
And then you own them.
Someone can't steal them from you on the blockchain.
That's true.
They can only steal them from you in real life,
and they would because you look so stylish in those T-shirts.
Yeah.
You can also go to any number of websites, honestly,
if you want to purchase T-shirts or other products.
There's too many.
You don't have to.
Thank you to the Brute and the Basilisk in Iraq
and for all the musical themes.
You know who we should thank?
We should thank Weekly Planet Posters.
There's Weekly Planet Posters over on Twitter and Instagram
who many multiple times a month puts out a silly poster
based on something we say.
And there's so many people obviously helping in the Great Mates group.
That's very true.
We also got a TikTok.
We're on TikTok apparently.
There's also a Weekly Planet.
We're scared of it, like I said.
It's confusing and scary to us.
Srabi's doing that one.
And also there's going to be a Weekly Planet clips channel
which is going up this week which is going to be a separate YouTube channel
which we're trying out.
We're trying to monetize every single second of this show multiple times.
Yes.
Aren't we, Mason?
I guess.
And next week, maybe Stranger Things.
I don't know.
What's coming out June the something-eth?
Oh, great question.
Let me just check my watch.
All right, first of all, you're not wearing a watch.
Second of all, you made a motion as if you were going to, like,
lift your shirt cuff up and show me your watch,
but then you just simply gave me the rude finger,
which I think is very rude.
No, no, no, no.
It was an accident.
Let me check my actual watch.
Wow.
Wow.
I did it on the other arm, everybody.
They gave me the finger again.
Yeah, but see, that time, I mean, you're right-handed,
so your watch wouldn't have been on that wrist.
You think I can wear my watch on my right hand?
I don't think you're capable of it. I absolutely am.
I'm also one of those guys that sometimes wear my watch
under the wrist. I turn it around the other way.
What are you, Top Gun Maverick? Is that what he does?
No, but it seems like something you'd do.
You're Mr. Military Man with your
watch on the other side of your wrist. I am Mr.
Well, my grandpa used to wear it like that, so I guess that's why I did,
but I've never done anything heroic.
Mason, next week is early June is.
It's coming out June 6th, I think.
Jurassic World Dominion.
Jurassic World, there we go.
Is that next week or is that.
No, it's week after.
Week after that.
But I did also tell you we got one invite to the premiere.
Okay, right.
Did I mention that here?
I don't know.
They sent an email and they said,
do you want to come to Jurassic World Dominion?
I said, I would love to come to Jurassic World Dominion.
Can I have two tickets so I can bring my good friend Nick Mason?
And they said, ooh, yuck, no.
Well, that's pretty much.
They said, no, this is an exclusive event.
You can only bring one ticket, have one ticket.
Do you still want to come?
And I said, I don't know.
So I will not be going to Jurassic World Dominion,
the Melbourne premiere.
Oh, my God.
I'll see it Thursday morning in an empty cinema.
The T-Rex might be there.
Might you be able to meet the T-Rex?
The car will be there.
Last year there was the Jeep.
You can go up on a little stepladder and shake his hand, the T-Rex.
Oh, that's fun, isn't it?
It's fun.
It's great.
Thanks, everybody.
Grab that jam, you guys.
We will see you next week.
Goodbye.
For a thing, whatever the topic is.
Whatever the thing is. Yeah, we'll figure something out. Yeah that jam, you guys. We will see you next week. Goodbye. For a thing, whatever the topic is. Whatever the thing is.
Yeah, we'll figure something out.
Yeah, we'll do it.
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play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London.
One woman has a secret.
The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost.
FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.